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July 29, 2025 73 mins

In this episode of Psychedelics Today, Joe Moore sits down with Chad Charles — educator, mentor, and practitioner specializing in 5-MeO-DMT therapy.

Chad shares his decade-long journey working with 5-MeO-DMT, emphasizing the importance of:

  • Practitioner training and mentorship

  • Personalized, therapeutic alliances

  • The nuanced understanding of dissociative states

  • Ethics in standardized clinical dosing

  • A trauma-informed approach to psychedelic care

He also introduces his upcoming research project, analyzing 500+ one-on-one sessions to illuminate best practices and ethical frameworks in the 5-MeO-DMT space. This is a must-listen for anyone passionate about harm reduction, responsible facilitation, and the future of psychedelic therapy.


🕒 Episode Breakdown

  • 00:00 – Introduction and Guest Welcome

  • 00:41 – Chad Charles' Background and Work

  • 02:18 – Defining 5-MeO-DMT

  • 05:28 – Breathwork and Therapy

  • 09:22 – First Experiences with 5-MeO-DMT

  • 18:00 – Training and Ethical Considerations

  • 30:41 – Conscious Surrender vs. Submission Experience

  • 31:18 – Ethical Considerations in Psychedelic Research

  • 32:02 – Understanding Dissociative Doses

  • 33:26 – Empowering Individuals Through Therapeutic Alliance

  • 34:26 – Challenges in Contemporary Science

  • 38:02 – Good Practice vs. Malpractice in Psychedelic Therapy

  • 41:51 – Personal Experience and Practitioner Responsibility

  • 46:52 – Addressing Malpractice and Corrective Experiences

  • 01:00:11 – Physical Health Considerations in Psychedelic Therapy

  • 01:02:21 – Future Directions and Research in Psychedelic Therapy

  • 01:05:43 – Conclusion and Contact Information

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