Growing Up Psychic

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Speaker 1 (00:17):
Hello, and welcome to Psychic Teachers. I'm your host, Samantha Fay,
and joining me today is a very very special guest.
It's my youngest daughter, Chloe Say. Hi, Hi everyone. I'm
very happy to be here. I'm so excited to dive
into our talk today. Chloe wanted to come on the show,
or really I asked her to come on the show

(00:39):
so we could talk about what it's like growing up psychic,
and what it is like to have a weird woo
boo mom, and how to really embrace your own interior intuitiveness.
So before I really start interviewing you, Chloe, I just
wanted to start off and tell everyone to remind everyone
because I think I've mentioned this on the show a

(00:59):
couple of times. So about a year and a half
before Chloe was born is when I found that crystal
on my desk, and it's when I really really got
into reiki. It's when I met dev and started learning
the Toureau. But I never ever thought of myself as
a future medium or someone doing psychic readings. I was

(01:23):
just following my bliss and exploring this whole new world
that was opening up for me. And I remember when
I was getting my Reiki two. One of the students
in the class with me was pregnant, and I remember thinking, oh,
I wish I was pregnant when I got my reiki
one and two, because what a beautiful thing to be
able to pass on to your child. Well, lo and behold,

(01:46):
I got pregnant with little Chloe, and I decided to
go on and get my reiki master's degree. And I
was just so happy that I got to experience those
attudmins while little Chloe was growing in my belly. And
a few months after that, I went to see an
intuitive who was really highly regarded, and she gave me

(02:06):
a really great reading, and one of the things she
said I never forgot. She said, you have been called
to this path not for you, but for the child
inside of you, because she is meant to do what
you're going to do, but even more, even on a
bigger scale, in a grander way, whatever that means. And
it was shortly after that that I really opened up

(02:29):
to my mediumship. And I always wondered, is it connected?
And so I kind of just watched as you grew up,
and you had so many psychic experiences as a little
little girl, and they've only continued, right, are you comfortable
saying that? Okay, one of the things that I've told
on the show before. And you can see the painting

(02:50):
right there, Chloe. Okay, So a client made me this
beautiful painting that's hanging in my office of mother Mary.
I did a reading for her one night from home.
I can't remember what time zone she was in, but
I had to do it pretty late at night, around
nine thirty or ten, if memory serves, and a relative
of hers came through who had been, you know, a

(03:11):
little bit like my grandmother in life, like not a
mean person, but just a little bit of a negative bent,
and she wanted to explain to my client the hardship
she'd gone through in her life, to point out, you know,
why she was the way she was. And it turned
out to be a really healing reading, not only for
my client but also for her relative on the other side.

(03:33):
And I remember that the relative had a very very strange,
like a hard to pronounce last name, but her first name,
I'll just say is Mary. So anyway, finish up the reading,
get ready for bed, brush my teeth, put on my pj's,
climb into bed, and little Chloe you were three years old,
three and a half. You come bitter padding into my

(03:54):
room and you said you weren't scared. You just said, Mommy,
there's a woman pacing in front of my bedroom door.
And I don't know what to do. And so I
tried not to be all fearful, like, oh my god,
there's a ghost in the house. I tried to be
a good mom, and I just said, okay, Chloe, hold
my hand and close your eyes and just try to
ask her what her name is. And I remember you

(04:16):
just squeezed your eyes shut, really really tight, and you
said Mary. And I was like, holy shit. And I said, okay,
close your eyes again, and ask her for her last name,
and you said, I don't want to say it, you know,
for ethics and confidentiality. But it was like a three syllable,
hard to pronounce last name, and you said it, and

(04:36):
my mind was blown. And I'm still trying to be
like super calm, like okay, that's great, Chloe, And I said,
close your eyes again and ask her if she has
a message, and so you squeeze your eyes shut and
you said, she said, thank you, mom, and that was it.
She went away, and I thought that was just such
an amazing moment because here I am, I was upstairs

(04:58):
in my little office doing this reading late at night,
and that woman was actually in our home and she
wasn't a ghost, and she wasn't mean, and she wasn't scary.
She just wanted to say thank you, like thank you
for letting me get this message through to my granddaughter
that helped her heal, but also helped me heal. And
I hope that it taught you that there's really nothing

(05:21):
scary about seeing this stuff.

Speaker 2 (05:23):
I mean, you call yourself my woo woo mom, and
if that's what you are, I love my woo woo mom.
Because you've never presented it as something that needs to
be scary or intimidating. I always saw you kind of
having like a superpower that I just wanted to also have.
It wasn't for something that I was like, this is creepy,
this is scary. I just thought it was very cool.

Speaker 1 (05:44):
You did okay. But there were some moments like when
friends asked you what I did for a living that
was more for you true.

Speaker 2 (05:52):
And also going to a Catholic school, which was difficult
because you don't know what people would think, but it
wasn't like a way she.

Speaker 1 (06:00):
Does is scary. It was just different different. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (06:03):
And also once I did tell people, they would be like, well, perfect,
let's go get her free reading.

Speaker 1 (06:09):
So it was multiple that's true, Okay, good for all right.
So then flash forward to when you were four and
you had a lot of psychic experiences then, and they
just kept going, what's the first one that really stands
out to you?

Speaker 2 (06:26):
I remember, like in church, like in second grade, I
would see like some things I had, like scary ones.
A lot of it was like like more scary ones
growing up that you would help me, like not focus
on those ones and focus on the positive ones. Yes,
seeing ancestors, and really I was opposed to like what
we don't want to see.

Speaker 1 (06:45):
Well, yeah, I don't want to talk about the scary
ones because I feel like that brings it back in.
But you did have one very scary thing that kept
visiting you, and I remember telling you you have to
tell him to leave, and you said, no, no, he
won't like that, and I said, but it's your energy
and you have to take control of it. And you did.

(07:07):
You called on Arkiangel Michael and your light, and we
never had an encounter with that thing again, now your dad.
After he retired from the police force and focused on
his healing and recovery, he eventually was able to find
work as a private investigator and he would ask me
to help on a lot of cases, and that was

(07:29):
really fun, and that was very illuminating for me, and
it helped me realize different ranges and different ways that
you can help with this intuitive work. But there was
this one day where he came home and there was
a missing girl, a teenager. And I don't know if
I was just busy or tired, but every time I

(07:49):
tried to tune in, I really wasn't getting much. And
he was getting frustrated because you know, obviously the parents
were freaking out, and he was like, try again, and
I was like, I'm trying cooked dinner with full laundry.
So I went up to you and Olivia and I said,
can you guys tune in? I asked all three of you,
Corry didn't, Why did Tori want to?

Speaker 2 (08:09):
You came up to all of us and it was
I think we were all about to go to sleep,
and I remember seeing Tori. She was almost going to
burk out to a full panic about doing that. I
don't know why, that's just kind of how she is.
But me and Olivia were okay with it, and so
we sat down with you, and we didn't know what
to do. So you like talked to us how to
do it. And I think you started us off basically

(08:30):
going root chakra to crown and chakra, opening them all
up and basically just closing our eyes and thinking and
whatever comes to your mind. Be confident in that and
just say it.

Speaker 1 (08:41):
Yeah. I taught you how to ground and open your
chakras and spin your chakras. I think I walked you
into like my version of a crystal cave and asked
you to look at like a movie screen and focus
on the girl's name. And it was so interesting because
you got amazingly helpful, and Olivia did too. But tell

(09:02):
us about your experience. I wish it was more interesting
than what I can remember, but it was really things
that just popped into my mind. I remember you would
tell us to do, like just don't let anything come
in your mind, like focus on like certain categories like place,
name or location like stuff like that. And so I
was really determined.

Speaker 2 (09:22):
To get a name, and not that we even knew
that she could be with anyone, but I got the
name Matt, and so I assumed she was with somebody
named Matt. And then I got a location, a beach
that was twenty minutes away from us. And then Olivia
got the name of a hotel. Yeah, I think, yeah,
And so he narrowed it down and she ended up
being with a much older man named Matt and a

(09:45):
hotel and that said in that beach.

Speaker 1 (09:47):
Yeah, and the parents had never even heard of that
older man she was hanging out with, which was just phenomenal.
How did that make you feel? Very cool? Man?

Speaker 2 (09:56):
I feel like my wi will mo. I really liked it.
It was a little it's scary, like I do this,
and you kind of doubt yourself the whole thing because
you can never separate just things popping in your mind
from like the actual occurrence that it could be something
that is true. So it was definitely strange, but it
was exhilarating too.

Speaker 1 (10:14):
Yeah, yeah, really really cool. So one of my.

Speaker 2 (10:17):
Memories would be going to school in each almost each
school day, before we would pull up into the line
to be dropped off, my mom would have this pull
from an oracle card deck, and so I would pull
mine and I always ask my mom multiple things about me,
like who's my guardian angel, who is my animal guide?
All this stuff, but she doesn't want me to just
tell me that, because that's something you have to find
out for yourself by just kind of looking around and

(10:39):
seeing who's out there for you. And I just always
kind of guessed at the fact that mine would be
an owl, and I pulled that card from the deck.
That was just one of many instances. And then there
was another time we were walking downtown for some reason.
There was a man down there, the Animal rescue.

Speaker 1 (10:55):
Wrapped Rescue Society or something like that, mm hmm.

Speaker 2 (10:59):
And we're walking around and I was like, Mom, does
he have an owl? And he is just standing out
there in public, asking for nothing but just for people
to come up to him and pet the owl that
he had on his arms.

Speaker 1 (11:10):
Yeah, it was just like an educational thing. And the
only animal he brought with him was this owl that
they had just rescued, and I think he was they
were getting ready to release it. And that just really
stood out to me because it was just maybe three
five days before that you had asked, you know, I
think the owl is my animal guide, but I'm not sure,

(11:30):
and then da dah, we see that. And then a
couple of months later in the winter, we were at
this Christmas light show and I remember we were standing
underneath that archway where they have the fake snow, and
we're all focused on the fake snow, and you nudged
me and said, Mom, look up and over the archway
that was producing this snow was an owl. And I

(11:53):
was like, oh my gosh, Chloe, like that confirms it.
You pulled the card, you saw it downtown, and then
you saw it at the the Christmas light show.

Speaker 2 (12:01):
And I think that's very interesting because where we are
isn't very I wouldn't call it a native spot for
owls to be seen that commonly, and I saw them
a lot.

Speaker 1 (12:10):
Now, I've never seen an owl here. I've heard them,
but I've never seen them except those two times with you.
Mm hm oh. Remember that time we were driving to
school and we were picking up Tory's friend. It was
the start of your fourth or fifth grade year, and
you go, Mom, look and over the retention pond and

(12:30):
her neighborhood was an eagle. That was crazy. Yeah. Yeah,
And that's something I've always noticed about you, like you
always have these really cool experiences happened to you. When
we were hiking in the mountains. You found that piece
of jet when we were just walking the beach one
night it was Olivia's birthday weekend, and you found the

(12:54):
megalodon shark tooth just right there. You just kind of
were you just walk right to it. I just think
that a part of being connected to the unseen world
is having those magical experiences happen. Okay, So one thing
I remember so much about you growing up is getting
ready in the morning for school and you telling me

(13:14):
about your horrifying dreams. There were often negative dreams that
you had that came true, and I want you to
tell about one of them. But the reason why I'm
highlighting this is because I've seen this happen again and again.
I saw it happen with me, I see it with you,
I see it with you. Know students I've worked with

(13:35):
often early on in your development, you will pick up
on the negative stuff that's lingering around in the world.
And I think that's just because negative energy is heavier
and denser, so it is easier to pick up. Because
we're heavy and dense. We're living in this three dimensional
world but as we work to really lift and raise

(13:55):
our vibrations, then we pick up the higher stuff. I
was like, you know, a young kid, you would have
these intense dreams about world catastrophes that very often came true.
Do you want to tell one you remember?

Speaker 2 (14:11):
Yeah? So I think during high school was just such
a time where and you were teaching us about how
we were all m paths too and like absorb what
people are feeling around us. And I guess that was
true because my years of high school honesty just very
I feel like there was just negative energy everywhere.

Speaker 1 (14:26):
Yeah, you started during COVID. That was really hard.

Speaker 2 (14:30):
It was such a school three sixty from like happy,
go lucky Catholic school for twelve years to public school,
so I think that was definitely a switch too. But yeah,
for two years my dreams were really really quite graphic
and vivid, but I weirdly look forward to them to
like wake up in the morning and torture my family
and have them all dissect it with me. It was

(14:51):
my favorite part. But one of my dreams that were
super vivid. It started off I was in They always
start pretty lucid, like I know, I know that I'm dreaming,
and I know I'm supposed to be learning something from
this dream. I always know, like, Okay, here we go.
This isn't just like a fun little dream. But I
was in a high school that I didn't know, and
I knew that this wasn't where I lived.

Speaker 1 (15:11):
It was kind of in the.

Speaker 2 (15:12):
Middle of nowhere a little bit, and the high school
everyone was just walking around and then everyone started running rampant,
running around everywhere, and I was like, what is going on?
And I knew that it didn't affect me in the dream,
so I wasn't running around or anything. But then I
went out to the main area of the high school
and it was the cafeteria lady, and she had pulled
out a gun onto the all the students and that's

(15:33):
why everyone was running. And immediately, once anything goes wrong
in my dreams, that's scary. I wake up in like
a sweat in the middle of the night and try
to go back to sleep. But the next morning I
told my mom all about it, and we basically chopped
it up, choped it up.

Speaker 1 (15:47):
To being a strange dream.

Speaker 2 (15:48):
But then I think it was like three days later,
we saw a news article and I think four hours
away in a random town. That exact thing had happened
with a cafeteria lady doing that.

Speaker 1 (15:58):
It's pretty wild. And you still write your dreams down.

Speaker 2 (16:01):
I do because they're so vivid, and it'll I'll just
ruminate on that dream for like two weeks if I don't.

Speaker 1 (16:06):
So. Yeah, well, and they're instructive because, like you said,
you're observing as you're doing that. You had some pretty
cool dreams about my dad, your grandfather, after he passed.
Do you feel comfortable sharing some of those? Mm hmm.

Speaker 2 (16:20):
And to be honest, it really that one was the one.
They made me the most happy because I think they
were the most important to tell you things about your dad.
But it did always confuse me because I would wonder,
why is he coming to my dreams but not my mom?
I thought that was very interesting. But the first one
I ever had was really quickly after he passed, I

(16:41):
think two weeks, and it was a very pretty dream.
I was up in the clouds and I was in
some sort of a plane just soaring over all the
clouds with my guardian angel next to me, and I
just knew it was a smartartan angel, but I couldn't
describe her like put a name to her. And we
were flying over and we saw all these people in clouds,

(17:03):
laying asleep in the clouds, and we kept flying over
and I saw my grandfather and the plane stopped, and
so I jumped into his cloud and she pulled me
back by my shirt and was like, you cannot go
in there. Look, he's recharging. And he had a little
light above his head and it was all the colors
of the rainbow, back and forth and back and forth,
changing color. And I assumed in the dream that that

(17:24):
meant like a full recharge of your chakras and balancing yourself,
because you've told me that that's a study. When you
pass away with Alzheimer's, you're just not yourself. Yeah, and
you can't ground yourself or go back.

Speaker 1 (17:36):
And yeah, it takes a long time. Takes a long
time them to assimilate to that perfect energy on the
other side. So I thought that was such just a
beautiful message and imagery that you got that you know,
Papa was okay, and he was in this facility where
he was being healed. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (17:53):
So that was the first one that I had, and
the next one that I had was about a year later,
and it was a month before my grandmother passed away.

Speaker 1 (18:06):
My mom, they know about it, you don't worry.

Speaker 2 (18:11):
At this time, we didn't really think she was no
at all. I think it was a month I had
this dream and then a month later she was on hospice. Yeah,
but I had those.

Speaker 1 (18:19):
Dreams doing fine then, like we had it so fast.

Speaker 2 (18:22):
She's always had amazing vision, amazing hearing, like she's It
was honestly quite shocking. But I had this dream and
it started in my house and there was a knock
at our door and opened the door and I was like, Papa,
what are you doing here? And he was like, get
in the car. We need to go and have a conversation.
I was like okay. So we get in his car
and we're driving around and he turns. I was sitting
in the backseat and he was in the front and

(18:44):
he turned around to me and he was like, we
need to talk about your grandmother.

Speaker 1 (18:47):
And I was like, do we?

Speaker 2 (18:49):
And we started talking about her and he said, as
much as it pains me, we need to help her.
She's going to need help crossing over and I was
I was like, what do you mean, how do you
know this? And he was like I just know this.
I can't remember a word for word what he said,
but it was.

Speaker 1 (19:06):
Like, she needs our prayer, he kept saying.

Speaker 2 (19:08):
It was on his face how much an annoyed him
to help her, and he made sure to convey to
me that it was his duty. He said, at the
end of the day, I am her husband and I
need to help her.

Speaker 1 (19:18):
Which is so my dad. He always felt.

Speaker 2 (19:20):
So he felt obligated to her, but he did not
feel happy wanting to do it.

Speaker 1 (19:25):
But I thought it was He was probably like, I
can't believe she's joining me this fact. Iod'd have like
a little bit of time. That's what it was.

Speaker 2 (19:33):
He was so angry but so determined to help her,
and so I was like, okay. And I remember waking
up from that dream, first of all, not thinking that
Gigi was going to be sick, and then second of all,
wondering how I'm going to prompt this conversation to my mom,
saying I think your mom is going to pass away soon.
Then I think she's going you need to help doing

(19:55):
that to get to where she needs to go. Yeah,
I didn't want to be the one that's so hard
to bring up.

Speaker 1 (20:00):
So you did it really, really well.

Speaker 2 (20:02):
Though.

Speaker 1 (20:02):
I remember I was standing in the kitchen and you
came up and you told me, and you told me
very gently, and then I probably I probably asked you
a million questions after that, but I did tell my
sisters and we were all like, okay, but I don't know.
I didn't think it would be that fast, and it was,
just like you said, less than a month later. And

(20:24):
what I find so fascinating is when she was rushed
to the er and the doctor saw how bad she
was doing so quickly, they were like, we have to
get hospice in here, and we were like what. And
I remember the social worker came in and she was like,
I don't think there's any beds in hospice. We did
not want her in the hospital, you know, the hospice
facility was so beautiful, and I just asked Dad, I'm like,

(20:47):
please help mom. The social worker left and we waited.
Courtney and I were waiting there for like over an
hour with mom, and she came back in and she said,
I'm so sorry that took long. I was with my
other patient, mister Owen, and I was like, okay, I
don't remember that, yeah, yeah, and she said, goodness, a

(21:07):
bed just opened up, and we can have her moved
by this afternoon. In that while that's so, your dreams
continue to be very very vivid.

Speaker 2 (21:17):
That's what I feel most confident in, I think as
of now.

Speaker 1 (21:20):
Yeah, And that's how I was too, And like I before,
I would do readings, you know, I'd look at my
calendar and I would get nervous, like, oh, I have
this person and this person, and I would kind of
think about their names as I fell asleep, and I
would ask for any messages to come in the dreams
for those clients. So often their people would come to

(21:41):
me in their dreams, and that was very very helpful,
because you're right, something about a dream it just feels
it's not quote unquote made up. It's not our imagination.
It's not us making this happen or making something fit.
It's just it just is it just?

Speaker 2 (22:00):
And I think because of consciousness people know so little
about dreams, people will believe it. I think the science
behind it is so strange. I mean, when we fall asleep,
where do we go? I think that's why it's so
easy for people to connect with us easier that way.
I don't know, I feel like you jumped to a
different plane when you dream or something like that, because
it happened, at least for me. It happens too frequently

(22:20):
for it to not. Yeah, and do you ever.

Speaker 1 (22:22):
Wake up like more tired than when you went to bed?

Speaker 2 (22:25):
Yes, I think the craziest one. I had the most
insane dream, and I'll remember every detail of it forever.
And I remember waking up and I had bruises all
over me.

Speaker 1 (22:36):
And you were like, oh, oh, don't tell that.

Speaker 2 (22:40):
It freaked me out so much. But I was like, oh,
my goodness, like you made me think.

Speaker 1 (22:47):
I said, oh, you must have been abducted by aliens
and I was joking, but you I was like, Mom,
you never guess the dream I just had. Okay, before
we dive into your mediumship reading that you were able
to do, I just want to share with everyone some
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(23:09):
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(23:30):
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(23:50):
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Speaker 1 (25:09):
I so hope you'll join me. So let's talk about
your working after school in high school. We won't say
the name of the place so we can be confidential.
Do you want to tell the story of how your
first mediumship reading went? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (25:27):
So I think I worked there for probably a year
and then this happened. But I had a coworker, and
I had never experienced someone talking about death so openly
and freely. I think it was like almost every other
shift he had mentioned the passing of his dad, and
like how I think it just was a domino effect
to his whole family, and so he talked about it

(25:49):
every single day like everyone where I worked anew what
happened to his dad?

Speaker 1 (25:52):
How much time had passed from when the dad crossed
over to him talking about it so much. I think
he passed away when he was eight. Oh wow, and
he was I think twenty oh okay.

Speaker 2 (26:05):
Yeah, but they were just so tight. But yeah, he
talks about it basically every single day. And I feel
like that was kind of what did it?

Speaker 1 (26:13):
Like?

Speaker 2 (26:13):
How can you not come through and someone's talking about
you every single day like that? And I think there
was a certain shift that I had worked. I think
I heard like somebody say, like, tell him that I
love him, and I was like, that's just me being delusional,
like whatever. But I went home when I told you that,
and You're like, Chloe, that's not you mean delusional, Like
that's something you need to dig deeper at. And so
we did, and I can't even remember. I think it

(26:35):
was kind of the same process we did, the grounding
and then the opening your chakras, and it was kind
of just like a flood of information. I kind of
I got so much. I got his name. I knew
his last name already, but I got his first name,
which is a very uncommon name, and where he was born,
where he was stationed at he was in the military,

(26:57):
his birthday and his death day, wow, which was crazy.

Speaker 1 (27:01):
And that was month and day. Yeah wow, not the years,
but yeah, right, but month and day. And then you
got things like is there German Shepherds? Is there?

Speaker 2 (27:11):
Like what is with healthcare? And all this stuff? And
so we just kept digging at it and was so
interesting to me. And then I worked the next day,
but this coworker he did not and I was like,
it's okay, Like I don't think I should be like
saying stuff like that. And for some reason, an hour
before we close, he comes in to make himself a
smoothie and he lives like thirty minutes away, and I
was like, okay, yes, I have to and I sit

(27:33):
down because it was just a lot of information, and
he was like, it looks like you just saw a ghost,
like what's wrong with you? And I was like, there's
no way you just said that to me. So it
was so many things where I was like.

Speaker 1 (27:43):
Should I just tell him? And I was like okay.

Speaker 2 (27:45):
I was like wait, come back here to the back
and he was like okay, and I just I just
unloaded on him and I was like, was her dad's name?
Blah blah and he was like yeah. The whole time,
I think he was just very confused and I kind
of made sure to not make it seem like a workurgitation,
like stacked in stacotted facts at him, but it kind
of was. But that's just like what came to me.

Speaker 1 (28:08):
But you have to when you're in that zone. Yeah,
you have to just I call it psychic vomit, like
you have to just get it all out.

Speaker 2 (28:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (28:18):
It felt like I had like a very powerful hold
on personal information that wasn't mine and I wanted them.
Really what you just said, the powerful hole You can
feel it? Yeah, yeah, And I was like, I feel
like this isn't mine and I need to share it.
So I just told him.

Speaker 2 (28:31):
I was like, okay, like is this this this? I
was like, do you guys have I was like, you
guys have like the same exact smile, don't you? And
he showed me a photo and it's uncanny. I think
what resonated with him the most. I told him a
lot of just basically everything that we had talked about,
Like it.

Speaker 1 (28:48):
Was like over twenty pieces of validating facts. I remember
like adding them up when you came home that night,
mm hmm.

Speaker 2 (28:54):
And so I told him, like I was like, is
this a day like significant in June? He was like,
that's his birthday. And then I was like, what about March.
I think it was like March nineteenth or something, and
he was like, no, that doesn't ring any bell. And
then I kept saying like German shepherds like healthcare, dad,
and he was like no, no, and then he was like, anyway,
so my mom's a nurse. I was like, so that
would be the health don't care. He was very very

(29:16):
nice about the whole thing, but there was a lot
of things where he was like nope, nope, that's it's
the worst. I For some reason, the dad was very
adam out with Grand Canyon, and I was like, did
you ever go with the Grand Canyon? And then he
was like no, I didn't. And I was like, like,
would you say nope? He would have very defermative no
answers and be a little bit happy when it was
I was no. I would just be like okay next,

(29:36):
and then I just spit something else out.

Speaker 1 (29:39):
Okay. See, this is why you're a better medium than
I am, because I it's like my guides have all
the information and they like hand it to me one
at a time, and so if I'm seeing the Grand
Canyon and they're saying no, I'm not going to get
the next card with the piece of information from my
guide until like figure out that grand canyon and it

(30:00):
stops me up. So those those nose are hard for me. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (30:04):
I think it was just because I had already done
it with you and gone with the information that I
was like, okay, well I can pick this other thing
out from the back of my mind and just tell
him that and validate.

Speaker 1 (30:13):
It that way. But towards the end of it, it
was just so mo.

Speaker 2 (30:17):
I started crying. It was very sad. He was like,
do you need a hug. I was like, yeah, I do,
Like this is I don't know why. It was very
very sad. Dad just has so much love for them,
and you could really feel that.

Speaker 1 (30:26):
Yeah. So I call that when you feel the love
from the people on the other side. I don't have
words to describe it, but I try, and I always
say it's like their love is being pressed onto me.
You know. I all felt so heavy, and I think
he was like, why is she crying? But I was like,

(30:47):
it was so sad. It's heavy not because it's sad
or because his dad is grieving him on the other side.
It's heavy because there's like this weight of oh my gosh,
I've been waiting to tell you this, and now I
have this conduit, this medium through which I can tell
you how much I love you and how proud I am.

Speaker 2 (31:06):
I Also, it was very every time I would get
kind of uncomfortable and he was like, I am so
into this. He's like I had no idea, Like he's like,
what is happening right now? So that was very I
didn't even think about that, like I like, oh, what
if he thinks that this is like insane. I didn't
even cross my mind. I just wanted to vomit essentially
all the information.

Speaker 1 (31:27):
But I think the most week you have to go
back to the Grand Canyon. Did you ever figure that out? Wow?
What about the German shepherd?

Speaker 2 (31:35):
Well, that does come up, so okay. One of the
most affirming things for him I was he has been
dating his girlfriend, who also worked with all of us,
for I think five or six years, and I could
tell him I was like, your dad loves her, and
he that's when he was like I'm gonna cry because
he was like, he's like I think about it every
day how she can't meet my dad, and that it

(31:56):
like eats away at me. So that was, I think,
you know, the part that he wanted to hear the most.
And after that, well, he's told me that March meant
nothing his dad's death day, and I was like, okay,
even though I think at that point I knew, and
so he was like, okay, well, I'm gonna go call
my mom.

Speaker 1 (32:13):
This is crazy.

Speaker 2 (32:14):
And so I just kept washing the dishes and like
sucking up my tears, and he was on the phone
with his mom and he came back in twenty minutes
later screaming and he was.

Speaker 1 (32:21):
Like, that was the day that he died. This is insane.

Speaker 2 (32:24):
So other things to get confirmed later on, and then
I think next week I worked with his girlfriend and
I kept wondering because she is not into that stuff
at all, and I kept wondering, like, oh my gosh,
if she think I'm insane, because obviously he told her
all of this, and we got to talking about how
her family breathed German shepherds.

Speaker 1 (32:41):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (32:42):
I was like, okay, you knew that, you know he
knew that, yeah, And he was like, nope, nothing age
of German shepherds, so not that it was even a
relative part to the dad but I think you just
get other ways.

Speaker 1 (32:53):
It's a validation that yes, see your girlfriend, I see
who you're dating. This is how I know what her
family does. It's all value, is all important, and selfishly,
not as your mom, but as like a fellow medium.
I was so happy to hear you talk about the
frustration of that, because I was like, now he's frustrating.

Speaker 2 (33:13):
He asked me after I was finished, he was like, Okay,
one last thing, what is in my side?

Speaker 1 (33:18):
You're at home? And I laughed and he was like,
what is in there? I was like, that's that.

Speaker 2 (33:22):
No, this is not stranger things. I cannot get into
your mind and figure out what's your house?

Speaker 1 (33:27):
That made me annoy it. I was like, I just
told you where your dad was born. When how he
was very annoying. Yeah, just you tick off all the
things you said and then they come back with that.
I know. I always get that. What was the nickname
they called me when I was six? You know, like,
I don't know. This is what they're giving me, and
that's all I can tell you is what they're giving me,

(33:51):
and that is so so frustrating. Denise taught me a
really good tool when a client comes at you like that,
She says, you just reaffor all the things you have gotten,
because then it kind of like calms the energy down
and reminds them that, yeah, you are connecting with their
loved one. But I do think that for the average person,

(34:13):
especially him just randomly coming into the place, because like
who goes to the place they work when they're not working?
And you said he lived like a half hour away,
that was he must have recognized, like, oh, my dad
had me come here, and then to have that experience,
it's so shocking. It was him coming there abruptly, that
was true.

Speaker 2 (34:33):
I was like, Okay, I guess I should and then
I just kind of sat down and thought about doing it,
and him saying, you look like you're seeing a ghost
that I was like, that's too on the nose.

Speaker 1 (34:42):
I have to Yeah, I have to go through with this. Yes,
So how did you feel throughout it?

Speaker 2 (34:48):
And after just through it just really sad and I
was like I can't help believe him crying and all
the security footage just catching this right now it didn't work.
And also scared that everyone in where I were knew
that I did that and they probably do. And I
still wonder that every time I go to work and
I'm like, does everyone here know that? And do they
think I'm crazy? Right?

Speaker 1 (35:08):
I don't know, though, I mean I don't know.

Speaker 2 (35:10):
I think just his girlfriend knew, and maybe one other
coworker who we were both friends with, because she was
also right into that stuff. But that's what I know
for sure, But I don't think anyone else knew. That
was just mainly my only concern.

Speaker 1 (35:21):
Wow, I would be the same way for sure, because
you just never know, especially as I've said many times,
we live in a very Bible belt area of the country,
and so you just you never know what you're going
to get and how it's going to be received. But
did you feel the gratitude from his dad? I did.

Speaker 2 (35:42):
I don't know if it was more gratitude or just
like a sigh of relief kind of, but yeah.

Speaker 1 (35:48):
So I wonder because that really hasn't happened to you since, right, Like,
You're not like, oh, I'm going to hang up a
shingle and start doing readings. You just were like, oh,
this happened, and this is amazing. If one of like
if your roommate at school asked you to tune in,
would you and I just wouldn't know how.

Speaker 2 (36:09):
I truly mean that, I can only when you like
tell me.

Speaker 1 (36:12):
How to do it.

Speaker 2 (36:13):
I'm so serious and it's sucks. But yeah, that's like
the only time I could ever feel like because I
only really got that download of information on his dad
when I sat with you and did it, like step
by step, step by step everything.

Speaker 1 (36:25):
I told you him. I told you step by step.
Then could you do step by step when you're at college?
And see, I don't know, I truly don't.

Speaker 2 (36:35):
I only like believe in myself if you're in the room, Chloe,
I really do.

Speaker 1 (36:40):
That's not true. You're so much more intuitive than I am.
We're gonna work on that this summer. We'll work on that.
We have a new homework project for you, okay.

Speaker 2 (36:48):
Because I should. Because me and my roommate at school,
she's like my my, my little twin. We truly do.
We do true row readings to each other.

Speaker 1 (36:57):
Oh my gosh, I have to tell the story. When
we first met them. We met them at student orientation day.
So you and your roommate had hooked up over social media,
but you hadn't met her in person. So we go
to the college to meet and I instantly just liked
her so much. And she had numbers. Yeah, she has
two to two you too, and a gold chain around

(37:20):
her neck and I was like, oh, what does that mean?
And she said, oh, it's kind of weird, but I'm
really into numerology. And I was like, oh, girl, it's
not weird. I love how she is into it. She
has it like posters of it.

Speaker 2 (37:32):
She was born at Tutu Tuo, so she always like
wears that and stuff, and I love that because I
love four four four.

Speaker 1 (37:38):
Yes, that's the boys. You're lucky, remember, And then I
remember her sweet dad was like, well, we have to
get going. I'm getting an award in my YA class
because I finally mastered camel and I was like, I
love this family. And then that you brought her home
for a weekend and you guys were doing tourou readings

(38:00):
and I was like, this is so exciting. I know,
it's very exciting. Yeah, I love that, so yeah, you
guys should definitely keep exploring that.

Speaker 2 (38:09):
And I think, well, there's a mini mini story with that,
because she's always like I think when she figured out
what you did, she like jumped for joy and was like,
this is insane like, i'd need to meet your mom.
And then once she was I think she was like,
so to have you with any experience of that, and
I did, and from there on out she was like okay,
like and I was like, I cannot tune into anything
if my mom is not holding.

Speaker 1 (38:30):
My hand through the process. I'm so sorry.

Speaker 2 (38:32):
But we were talking about it once in the car
on her way to get coffee, and she was like, like,
how would you even start that process? And I was like,
I don't know. It was like, it's not that simple.
I can just be like you were born in Nashville
and your sister Eleanor was born in California. And she goes,
my sister Elaurora was born in California.

Speaker 1 (38:46):
Chloe. I was like, oh, oh, that gives me chills.
You never told me.

Speaker 2 (38:51):
That, I know, because it was so minimal. And we
were just like what just happened?

Speaker 1 (38:55):
Not minimal. We like sat inside once and she was like, oh,
I'm a little bit scared right now. That is your
big wonderful protector guide, Like he's showing you this is
what you can do, and you don't, like, I know,
I still so when I teach people how to do this,
I still teach them how to ground and open and
spin their chakras, and I still do it before readings,

(39:19):
and I know I don't really have to, like I know,
I probably could, but it's kind of like a safety
net for me, do you know what I mean? And
it's kind of like, I don't know, I just can't
let it go. And now it's almost it's almost like
my signal to the other side that I'm ready to

(39:40):
do readings, so I feel like I need that. And
also I'm in my head so much so that when
I'm focusing on my energy centers, I can get out
of my heading into my body, because I really do
think a lot of our intuition is in our body.
You know, the confidences in the solar plexus, and the
the emotion is in the heart chakra, and the visions

(40:03):
is in the third eye chakra, and the clear cognizance
and the downloads is in the crown chakra, which is
where I think your ability is is claar cognizance, because
you will get downloads. I don't even know if you
recognize it half the time, but I'll hear you say things.
I'll hear you. Well, let's talk about that too. One

(40:23):
of the things out of all three of you, you
and your sisters, you are the therapist for your friends.
Would you agree with that? Unfortunately? Yeah, unfortunately.

Speaker 2 (40:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (40:33):
All of your friends come to you with their problems,
and that's a sign.

Speaker 2 (40:38):
Of and it's always problems that I'm very not well
versed in, which is interesting and I give I'll pat
myself on the back.

Speaker 1 (40:47):
I give amazing advice. You should.

Speaker 2 (40:49):
I don't know anything about what they're doing, but I
am you.

Speaker 1 (40:52):
Should give yourself credit because some of your friends, and
we won't give eddy details, but some have dealt with
some heavy stuff and you'll come and tell me like, hey,
this is what's going on, and this is what I said,
and I'm like, dang, like that's spot on, Like that's
exactly what you should say. And I hope they take it.
But I do think that's a sign when people quote

(41:13):
unquote confess to you and feel safe telling you all
of those things. And when you, I mean, you've been
coming up with this like therapeutic perfect advice since you
were like, I don't know, eleven twelve, and so to me,
that's like a clar cognizant download because you don't even
know how you know the right thing to say. Do

(41:34):
you agree?

Speaker 2 (41:35):
Yeah, I would say so, because people do. I think
that is something that all three of us, like my sisters,
we do. People do just kind of spill information on us.
I think we have a very comforting energy, which is great,
but also a little dunting at times, because I think
my coworker whose dad passed, he would tell people in jokes,
like he kind of dealt with it through humor, but

(41:57):
he would tell me such depressing, hard and heavy stuff
and we were friends. But I was like wow, like, yeah, it.

Speaker 1 (42:05):
Was so much. Yeah, and it's an honor and a
privilege to hold space for people like that. But it's hard.
And like I said, you always know exactly what to say,
which is absolutely great. I don't think that you and
your sisters are super into the chakras, Like I remember
attuning you guys to Raiki one summer years ago because

(42:27):
Olivia and her friend wanted to learn it, and you
guys are kind of like, this is not interesting. But
I'm always kind of pushing the Chakras on. You guys
just confused me. Yeah, I get it's a lot, but
it is. It's a lot. It's a lot to take
in and learn, and but do you want to tell
the story of your chakra balancing?

Speaker 2 (42:45):
Yeah, it was very I mean me and my sisters
we were always like, Mom, can you do our readings?

Speaker 1 (42:51):
Mom? Can you do it? Mamy?

Speaker 2 (42:52):
Growing up, like because you can, but you won't because
that's not very like, that's just not something you would do.
And I came home from school one day and I
just really I came bumps from high school all the time,
just bummed, like I did not like high school. And
I don't know what was different about this day, but
you were like you were carrying so much of somebody's energy.

(43:13):
And when you do stuff like this unprompted, I get
so excited and I was like, what are we going
to do? And so we laid down and I think
you just aligned all my chakras and you're like, yeah,
beard me, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (43:26):
I put the crystals on your chakras. I did the
pendulum to see which one blocked, and I think there
were three that were pretty blocked. And so then I
did reiki to kind of to kind of tune in
and find out why the chakras were blocked. Do you
know which three? I know it was the solar plexus,

(43:48):
and that's when I felt who you were carrying, and
it was the energy of your teacher. And then I
know there was a little blockage in the heart chakra
and the throat chakra because you needed to, you know,
communicate some things.

Speaker 2 (44:02):
Yeah, so basically what it was is I think this
was sophomore year, so I was in Spanish two and
this teacher is one of my favorite teachers I've ever had.
She was so sweet and she made me have a
passion for Spanish now and now I'm it's gonna be
like my minor. And I just loved her, and she
would always confide in me and my friend Hannah, and

(44:22):
we would always like.

Speaker 1 (44:23):
Have little side chats with her. I just I loved her.

Speaker 2 (44:26):
And you told me that I was carrying a lot
of her energy and that she is quote unquote pushing
something serious under the rug and she's gonna have to
deal with it soon.

Speaker 1 (44:35):
And I was like, I don't know what that could be.

Speaker 2 (44:37):
I don't And it also confused me that I could
be carrying her energy like that. That freaked me out
from that point on because sometimes I will just realize,
like I'll just feel emotionally heavy or tired, stressed, and
I'm like, why is that?

Speaker 1 (44:49):
And now I'm like, who else is energy? Am I
backpacking off of?

Speaker 2 (44:54):
It's very annoying to think about, but you said that.
And then three days later she came up to me
and my friend Hannah in class and she was like,
girls like, this is gonna be my last year teaching
or next year, we're gonna last her teaching because you
play sign up for Spanish three And we're like, why
would if your last your teaching And she was like,
my visa expired and I have to go back.

Speaker 1 (45:14):
So sad. It was so sad, but a good reminder
that when you are an intuitive EmPATH, you are a
psychic sponge and you're picking up We're like little vacuum
cleaners for people's stress, which is why I do harp
on and press on about the chakras and your aura
and keeping the energy clear. And I think that we

(45:37):
as zimpaths pick up on some of that stress almost.
I mean we do it unwittingly, but often we can
pick up on people's stress and negative energy that they're
not even aware of, you know, Because she was sweeping
out of the rud like oh, I'll deal with that tomorrow.
I'll think about that later. And who can blame her?
I mean, that's a colossal change in her life. Yeah, yeah,

(46:01):
are you still not really into the chakras?

Speaker 2 (46:04):
Though?

Speaker 1 (46:04):
Into it meaning knowing all about them? I can't.

Speaker 2 (46:08):
I know, I know Route, I know Crown, I know
so Flexus, but I don't know what the meetings behind
no gosh, noah, Okay, well we'll get there. But I
would like to know the meetings behind all of them
so I can continue being a therapist friend. And yeah,
just because I don't, don't didn't don't you say that
there's crystals for each chakra? I think that would because

(46:31):
one of my other friends, I'm so happy that she's
still a very right and bubbly and extroverted person because
her household is very negative and I'm just waiting for
her to, I don't know, absorb it all too much.

Speaker 1 (46:42):
What do you need to get her? Some apothalyte and
some cluster courts amethysts would be really good for that family,
or just a giant yeah.

Speaker 2 (46:52):
Or maybe I could step in and absorb it all
for that chat.

Speaker 1 (46:57):
And just so listeners know, I have taught you about
the chakras forever. But I just don't think it's like
stuck in there. And I have taught you a lot
about crystals, and I was very proud when we were
moving and packing boxes and all of you could name
most of the crystals we were packing up. Of course,
if I couldn't at this point, it really yeah, that's

(47:18):
that's true.

Speaker 2 (47:19):
Oh.

Speaker 1 (47:19):
And one of my favorite stories to tell about you.
You had saved up like your birthday and Christmas money
from relatives and we were going to the mountains and
I had said, okay, girls, like we can stay in
this cabin and do the water sports and do the trails,
but we have to go to the crystal stores, remember,
and your other sisters were like okay, mom, But you

(47:40):
were excited and you took all your money into this
one crystal store and you were like, I'm buying a crystal.
You bought Boulder Opal and it was such a beautiful,
beautiful piece. And then we took it home and it
was it was like fifty dollars, which is like a
lot of money. And as your mom like, I just
wanted to like plump down my credit you save your money,

(48:01):
but I knew it would mean more if you you know,
did that yourself. And so we studied about boulder oval
and then we made it into a necklace for you,
and that was just a proud non moment. The other
crystal you had to have was white a ragonite because
you thought it looked like a brain. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (48:18):
I thought it was like a brain er, like a
little fluffy cloud.

Speaker 1 (48:20):
I really liked it. Yeah, so we got that. So
there's been a lot of times rebetded crystal stores and
you just like had to have the one your ring,
your blue ring. I needed to have that. Oh, the
Shata kite. Yes, I like hopefully just stole it from you.
You did and wore it for three years. Yeah, yep,
And I was happy for you to have that. Shadowkite
is such a great stone for intuitives as well. It

(48:43):
brings in the blue and the green. It's it's one
of the top ten for opening up to your intuition.
So it just made sense that you coveted that. So
do you feel like you'll do this for a living
one day or do you think this will just be
a side hobby. I don't know. I think it would

(49:05):
just be a side hobby. Yeah, because.

Speaker 2 (49:10):
I don't really know why Because it's not something that
I know everything about. I don't know if i'd be
like comfortable enough in it. I feel like that's this
is your arena too, and I couldn't imagine.

Speaker 1 (49:22):
You know, it's not yeah for sure.

Speaker 2 (49:25):
Yeah, I'd also just feel like very confident in other
areas of like study. So yeah, but knowing that you
are intuitive and trusting it, I think that is half
the battle for really learning how to live a full,
rich life, because you can use that. Look how you've
already used that intuition to help people. It's also I'm

(49:48):
just grateful for it, for understanding people beforehand. I think
that my friends will tell me, like, I don't know
stuff like you keep like you have the really long
friendships and you have I don't have like a humongous
amount of friends. I have like four people that I
call like my best friends. And I think that's because
you can get a read on people beforehand, and just
I don't know. I feel like I could be in

(50:08):
a room of five hundred people and because of being
an EmPATH or intuitive, you can just pick out the
people that you know you're going to click with. Yeah,
that's I think what I'm.

Speaker 1 (50:16):
Most grateful for Yeah, I know for all of you girls,
because you all trust that and you've all made such
good choices in general, but especially with friends, you know,
and I really respect that, especially like in middle school,
you guys did it. Were never like, oh well, that's
the popular girls I have to be friends with. And
if you got a negative vibe from someone, you guys

(50:38):
trusted it. And I just think that's worth its weight
in gold. Oh my gosh, the Owen story. We have
to tell that. Oh yeah, wait, before we tell that story,
we have to take one more quick break for our
advertisers and then we'll be right back. Okay, welcome back everyone.
So Chloe tell us the Owen story. It's a good one.

Speaker 2 (50:57):
Nice Okay. So, my sister has been dating her boyfriend
Owen for four years in September.

Speaker 1 (51:03):
Four years. Four years.

Speaker 2 (51:04):
Yeah, and we love Owen. Yeah, he's just been the
most amazing boyfriend to her. You could definitely tell like
it like he was just never going to be a
passing ship, you know.

Speaker 1 (51:16):
Yeah, we knew this, like you knew yeah from day one.
My favorite Owen story. So every time Olivia comes home
from school and now from work, we have a lovely time,
and then she gets ready to leave and what happens.
You do love this story.

Speaker 2 (51:31):
I forget she and every time she leaves home she cries.
She cries and cries and cries. And she was like,
I'm not getting in the car.

Speaker 1 (51:40):
I can't leave.

Speaker 2 (51:41):
And he was like, let's just get Starbucks, and she
sucked up her tears in the car.

Speaker 1 (51:45):
He goes. He goes, Olivia, we'll get in the car
and I'll buy you Starbucks. And she goes, Okay, okay,
she was a I'm just like Olivia.

Speaker 2 (51:56):
He at her at my mom's book party. That was
such a fun book party. So many people came and
so many your books completely sold out. Yeah, it was insane.
He ran the booth. He did the whole time. He
was like, he had an amazing time. We would try
to all have conversation with him, and Li'll be like, oh,
this is my boyfriend, and he's like one more minute,
because he would see someone get to the booth and
he'd have to dart over there and sell them a book.

(52:18):
Like he ran that. It was really funny.

Speaker 1 (52:21):
Okay, so I'm sorry, get to your Oh the story.

Speaker 2 (52:24):
They started dating in twenty twenty one and in twenty twenty.
I was I have no memory of this, but I
went through my notes up the other day to try
and find something, and I had written in my notes.
I think I need to pull it up so I
can't read it like word for word.

Speaker 1 (52:36):
It's okay.

Speaker 2 (52:37):
So they met in September of twenty twenty one, and
this says July twenty eighth, a twenty twenty I just
randomly wrote in an afternoon. I'm writing this now so
I can prove to everyone that an Owen will be
important in either Olivia or Victoria's life.

Speaker 1 (52:52):
I mean, that is a mic drop moment. Very I
have no memory of doing that, so you don't know
if it came in a dream and meditation.

Speaker 2 (53:00):
It wasn't a dream because it was at two point
thirty pm.

Speaker 1 (53:03):
Oh right, right, so yeah, and it just came over you.
And then they met a year later. See that's important
too in terms of psychic information we get. The time
is such a such a strange thing, you know, Like
when people come to me for a reading and they'll
be like, oh am I going to get a new job.

(53:24):
I'll get a strong yes. Sometimes I'll get the name
of the first name of the person hiring them. Okay, wait,
I don't want to sound braggy. A couple of times
I've gotten the name of the person who will hire them.
Usually i'll get I don't know information about the company
or the type of work, and then they'll email me
like three months later like uh, hello, that did not
come to fruition, and I'm like, okay, I'm sorry or

(53:47):
hang tight. And then six months later, nine months later,
oh my god, gosh, that's where I.

Speaker 2 (53:52):
Don't tell I guess I mean again, I don't remember that,
but I don't remember being like Olivia, I just wrote
this down and it's going to be important, because it's
not like I want to wait and see if that's
something that will happen.

Speaker 1 (54:03):
First. Yeah, well it's hot, because that's the scary part
of doing this is putting yourself out there and putting
yourself on the line like that. And it's very very
rare that you get credit or validation. And not that
we're in this for credit or validation, that's not it.
But that doubt is something. I don't care how long

(54:25):
you've been trusting your intuition, you're always going to have
to grapple with that doubt. And so receiving that feedback
is really really important. Before we wrap up, tell us
what is the best thing about being an intuitive EmPATH
and what is the worst thing.

Speaker 2 (54:43):
The best thing I think it would still be finding
for I feel like I can look at you or
talk to you for one second and I don't even
know if that's being intuitive or I guess. I feel
like a lot of people can do that and just
knowing like we're going to click or we're not going
to click. And I know who I feel like I
know who you are as a person to a t
from there on out. And my least favorite part would

(55:03):
probably be I can't I'm not even near what you
do at all, like you have it as a career
and friends will still be like, so what do you
say about this? What do you think about this? What
do you And I'm like, it is pressure. I think
it's just pressure. That's my least favorite part.

Speaker 1 (55:17):
Yeah, the pressure. Yeah, that really shifted my friendships for
me and really weird ways where just talking to them
about normal problems and issues was no longer talking and
I would feel that where they go. So I talked
to my boss about the promotion and I don't know
what do you feel? And I way more respect you

(55:41):
if you just say, hey, can you pull some cards
or tune into this question than trying to like backdoor it.
You know, I don't really like that. The other thing
that's hard with friends, Remember, I don't know. I think
I told you this story when I was downtown with
Aunt Courtney and Michael and Michelley. We were all like
just hanging out and drinking a glass of wine and

(56:04):
I turned around and I saw one of our mutual
friends and I dropped my wine glass and she she
called on Courtney and was like, oh my god, what
did your sister say? I saw on her face something
bad's gonna happen. And I was like, So Courtney called
me and I was like, what what did I was
clumsy and I dropped my glass and she was like,

(56:26):
oh no, she saw it in your face. You saw
something in her aura. And I was like no. I
was like downtown with you and friends and just having
a glass of wine. There was nothing to it. And
then the next week she got devastating news and I'm like,
what is that? So I don't think it's connected, but
now she thinks I'm like this mystical seer I don't know.

(56:50):
But then there are other times. I was just in
a yoga class with a friend and when he walked in,
I saw beautiful, this beautiful arch of just orange light
around him, and I said, where do you work at?
He's a teacher too, And I said, what are you
working on creatively this summer? And he was like, well,

(57:11):
I'm thinking about our project, but I haven't started it.
And I was like, you need to start it. It's
like getting ready to be birthed in you. And he
was open to that. Luckily, So I understand why friends
might ask us those questions, because sometimes we actually do
get those insights. But I don't walk around psychic. Yeah,

(57:32):
and you saw me yesterday when I came home and
I told you about that reading I did for my
high school friend and like it weighs on you, Yeah,
and like I couldn't. I couldn't shake it all night.

Speaker 2 (57:47):
I think there is like positive negatives to like the
I feel like there's two sides or a person who
just like wants like. I feel like there's the person
who wants you and sees you as like a fountain
of information, and then there's people like our family friend Jack.
He sees who like he sees the world in you,
Like there's people who just.

Speaker 1 (58:04):
I don't know Jack. Yeah, we've known Jack since you
were in my belly yeah zero zero Wow. And that's
he's the first one of your friends that I discovered
listened to psychic teachers. Oh my gosh.

Speaker 2 (58:20):
Yes, And then you guys told me that I think
it's really funny. Well, yeah, Regan, she follows you. Everyone
just thinks you're the most interesting person ever. Go on,
I'm serious, Like I think that we were. And it's
so interesting to me because growing up we were like, wait,
like it's strange to tell people at our moment psychic
for a living in a Catholic school. But then all

(58:41):
my friends were like, your mom knows what and they
think it's the most interesting thing ever, because it is
the most interesting thing ever. And you have an endless
amount of stories and I could just listen to for
weeks seriously.

Speaker 1 (58:51):
So I don't give good stories. It does.

Speaker 2 (58:54):
And I just think in Jack's case, it was funny
because he's non nu since he was zero, and I
think you started listening to your podcast like in high
school just for fun, and I just think that's really funny.

Speaker 1 (59:05):
It's so so sweet. Yeah, And I remember I did
readings for all of your teachers and they were all
very Catholic and went to Mass at least twice a week,
would you agree, And they were very open to it.
And you know, so it's funny, as I'm sitting here
listening to you, I'm thinking, why am I always so

(59:26):
nervous to say what I do for it? Yeah, like
I've for the most part, I've had positive experiences with it.
There's been a few, you know, there's always a few,
but for the most part it's been it's been a
pretty positive experience. I am glad that I stopped doing
readings out of the house because there was some activity

(59:48):
happening up when I was doing that. I knew you
were picking up on that as a little girl, and
I was like, no, no, no, no, And so it was nice.
I really I tried. I don't apparently I didn't succeed
as much, which as I thought I did, But I
tried really hard to keep that world separate from your
the family world. I tried to just go to the

(01:00:08):
office and do my readings and then like just come
home and do homework and dinner and not as I'm
listening to you.

Speaker 2 (01:00:15):
No, we I the office like we hated when you
were away, Like hate did it? I think I thought
that's why you stopped really going, because we were like, mom,
come back. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:00:26):
Yeah, well well that was part of it. But also
you guys were older, and I felt like, okay, if
I do bring something home, because there would just be
little travelers at the end of readings like the one
we talked about in the beginning. Oh yeah, and I
just you know, you can feel and sense and emote
with them, but Toy sees them, and I think it.

(01:00:49):
I think it really scared her.

Speaker 2 (01:00:51):
Yeah, because she hasn't since she was like seven.

Speaker 1 (01:00:53):
No, she because she saw the little girl again when
she was twelve, and then she saw Gretchen, our dog
when she passed. So it still comes in sometimes for
her and she's just where she's like, nope, she's very scientific.
Yeah she was, but I mean it's for you too.

Speaker 2 (01:01:10):
I think the last time was Maggie Nana when pop
Up Wait, when pop Up died. Yes, you always forget this.
I'm so happy I have a diary he wrote down,
because I read it the other day and I was like,
you saw Nana sitting in a pew in a red sweater.

Speaker 1 (01:01:24):
Oh my gosh, I just funeral. I did forget that.
Oh wow, thanks for bringing that up, because in my mind,
the last spirit I saw was it when we were
in Asheville and we were just walking looking for one
of my crystal stores and there was a couple they
were just leaning into a like a window shopping and
I saw his guide standing behind him. Yeah, and he

(01:01:48):
had his hands behind his back. It was just like
looking over his shoulder too, like, oh, what are we
looking at now? And it was just it was so
clear and vivid for you know, a moment, and then
I looked away, and then I looked back and he
was gone and the couple was still there. But yeah,
you're right, I forgot I saw Maggie at her husband's funeral.

Speaker 2 (01:02:06):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (01:02:07):
See okay, Exhibit A. And why I'm constantly telling people
to keep a validation journle and write stuff down. Well,
thank you for I I'll valid it for you. Anything
else you want to mention or anything weird about having
a psychic mom or being a psychic kid. No, I
think the last thing would.

Speaker 2 (01:02:27):
Probably be people do ask like the only friend I've
had that has asked me like, how does your mom
balance being Catholic and like a psychic? That's just because
this person was very religious, and I was like, I
don't know, It's never been a problem for her. She
used to it to aid her kind of yeah, And
honestly it helped me because after that many years of
Catholic school, I was like, what is.

Speaker 1 (01:02:48):
This about all about?

Speaker 2 (01:02:50):
But then you would say things and it would affirm
all like I would start doubting, like faith or whatnot.
And then because of what you do, I'd totally three
sixtyed for me in a way that like I think
after I did that reading, you're like, Chloe, where do
you think you're speaking to him from heaven? Right? And
also when you saw the Holy Spirit?

Speaker 1 (01:03:08):
Do you remember that?

Speaker 2 (01:03:09):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (01:03:10):
That's crazy? Like you what it was?

Speaker 2 (01:03:12):
It like little dots going into people starting at the
crown of their head pops.

Speaker 1 (01:03:15):
Yeah, and it was right, Yeah, that happened to me.
Right when you guys stopped coming to church with me,
remember like around middle school, I want to say, and
that was really hard for me because I wanted you
guys there and I remember Dad had stopped going to
church too, so it was just me, and I was like,

(01:03:36):
why am I doing this? Like why am I getting
up early at a Sunday and driving? And I just
I don't know. It was having one of those crisis
of faith. I because there's so much about the Catholic
Church that I do disagree with, and I think that's
obvious and I don't have to list them out, but
I just always feel comforted there, and I always felt
such a connection to Mary and the angels and the saints,

(01:03:59):
and so I just kept going. But I said to God,
like I need a sign, Like I just need a
sign that you know this is where I am supposed
to keep going, because it didn't feel like it aligned
with who I was. And I'm just sitting there alone
in the pew, and I remember feeling this like vibration
in my right ear. So I thought they turned on

(01:04:20):
the ceiling fans and I look up and I'm like, oh, yeah, right,
we don't have ceiling fans. And so then the priest
had us kneel because he was blessing the Eucharist, and
I still felt that like buzzing in my ear. It
wasn't even like an audible hum it was it was
like a sensation of something shifting in the air, and

(01:04:41):
so I looked up again and I saw it looked
like drops of liquid mercury, and they were just silver drops,
and everybody got one drop into their crown chakra. And
I heard like an actual voice. And I hate saying
that because it sounds so weird, and I rarely ever
hear voices, but I heard it in my head, not audibly,

(01:05:05):
inside my head, and it said, we are preparing your
souls to receive the Eucharist. And I was like, holy bleep.
And then and from that day on, I've always taken
the host and the wine. And I've never taken the
wine since I got first community and in second grade,
because I think it's disgusting. I agree.

Speaker 2 (01:05:26):
I've never had a sip of it, even a communion.

Speaker 1 (01:05:28):
I've faked it. Yeah, No, I'm a drham about too,
But since that day I always have but you know,
being the doubter and the overthinker that I am. Once
I got home and thought about that experience, I had
to go for a walk by myself and kind of
and kind of like talk to God because I was like,
I was thinking about all my friends who had left faith,

(01:05:51):
whatever their faith was and just didn't go to church
anymore or Templar Synagogue or anything. And I thought about
my friends who were diagnostic and anyway, and I was like, well,
how does their soul get prepared? You know, like what
that's not right that you have to get the Eucharist.
And that's when I got that download of anywhere you

(01:06:13):
go to fill up your soul, you get that mercury drop,
whatever that is. I just felt like it was grace,
you know. And so I think if you are walking
in the woods or doing a random act of kindness
or meditating or sitting with a tree, that you can
get that silver drop. Yeah. Speaking of even though you're

(01:06:36):
being so nice and complimentary to me right now, which
I truly appreciate, sweetie, you guys all still make fun
of me whenever I have to hug a tree. Yes,
I don't understand that, because it's just a very funny sight.
We'll be walking you.

Speaker 2 (01:06:49):
I'm like, mom, there are people and I still will.

Speaker 1 (01:06:53):
I think, but you have to have felt the energy
from a tree, right especially the one at Airly.

Speaker 2 (01:07:01):
Maybe I'll get there one day.

Speaker 1 (01:07:02):
Okay, Okay, are there other things I do that embarrass you? No,
that's it no, just what I have to like. So
they're just some trees I have to like connect with.
Of course, you know, I thought I'd be a tree hugger.

Speaker 2 (01:07:15):
But here we are.

Speaker 1 (01:07:16):
Here we are. That's okay.

Speaker 2 (01:07:18):
But yeah, that was my last bit of information that
I think that whatever people say about balancing being psychic
and being Catholic doesn't work.

Speaker 1 (01:07:26):
I think it's like the perfect balance. I do too,
because it's it's one of the only faiths I know
of that allows you to go through into mediaries. If
God's busy, or God is you don't even know what
God is, then you've got Mary, who's the universal mother
to us all. Or you've got your brother energy archetype

(01:07:50):
of Jesus. Or you've got all the saints, you've got
all the angels, you've got you know all of that,
And I think that's hand in hand with what we
do as intuitives. Padre Pio is who I will.

Speaker 2 (01:08:04):
Bring up in any conversation. There are so many people
that swear up and down the bay you know everything
about them. People don't know Podrapio. Really, yes, put some
respect on Podrapio's in because he when I would have
my doubts in middle school, and I'm like, I don't
know if I'm buying into the podra Pio saved it,
because that is the craziest story to this day. I'm sorry,
it really is part like I just the whole stigmata.

Speaker 1 (01:08:26):
Yeah, him being so recent yes recently, watch him giving
masks easy and all the evidence of him bilocating and
healing people, and or the letters he would get from
all around, all the different languages and he could read
them and he said it was because his angel told
him to. And my favorite Padre Pio's story is how

(01:08:48):
he always had to sleep with the light on m m.
Because that that is, if I'm sleeping alone, I have
to have a little light on somewhere to this day,
because when I was growing up, I would always see
stuff and sun stuff, and it freaked me out. But
if I had a leg on, I would be okay.
And you know, I think I've told you this. Gigi
would always go to bed after me and she'd come

(01:09:10):
into the room and turn the light off. No, yes,
and then like an hour later I'd feel someone in
the room or have a weird ghosty experience.

Speaker 2 (01:09:19):
Agree, Because growing up I shared a room with Victoria for.

Speaker 1 (01:09:22):
Like oh yeah, thirteen years.

Speaker 2 (01:09:23):
It's dark and she needs the door shut. And she's
my older sister. So what she said went. And I
hated having the door shut because it would be pitch
block in our room and I'd feel I always felt
as if there was something in the room, and by
closing the door, we were trapped with it because I
don't know. I guess I'm paranoid. And when the door
was tracked a little bit, I was like, ooh, we're fine. Yeah,
and there's a tiny little stream of light coming through,

(01:09:44):
and she it was like an ocdy thing for her.
It had to be shut and dark. So I agree,
mom my name a little bit of light, a little.

Speaker 1 (01:09:51):
Bit of light. So pydro Bio affirmed that for us.
So before we close up, I just want to thank
you so much for coming on the show. Was it
scary fun? No, it's very fun. Okay, good. I hope
you come back on. And I just want to remind you.
I know you're gonna roll your eyes, but you have
always been the angel and our family. And I remember

(01:10:14):
when I found out I was pregnant with you. That
was the week that every doctor told me Dad would
not survive. That week and I remember going to the
nurse that night and saying, I've got to you know,
I've got to hold his hand and tell him that
I'm pregnant. And he squeezed my hand when I said,

(01:10:34):
squeeze my hand. If you heard me, we are pregnant.
And that nurse who dated uncle body, so you could
somehow we can track her out if you don't believe me.
But she said, oh my god, I saw that, and
I just I knew. I knew that he was going
to fight to meet you and come back. And so
I've always said that you saved your dad and you

(01:10:56):
saved us throughout that terrible, terrible time. And when when
Dad finally did wake up, I mean, you can imagine
how I harassed him. I'm sure what happened in your coma?
What did you see? Who did you talk to? I mean,
I that poor man was still learning to walk and talk,
and I was like, no, no, And finally when he

(01:11:17):
was a little bit better, and could you know, do
all those things? He said, the only thing I remember
is dancing with a little girl with curly hair. Now
I didn't in freckles, yes, and I didn't. I didn't
know we were having a girl. Remember, I thought, I'm
such a great psychic.

Speaker 2 (01:11:35):
I am.

Speaker 1 (01:11:35):
I had knitted an entire blue blanket sitting in the
hospital with him that summer, so I thought I was
having a boy, and I was like, oh, that's sweet.
He probably had like an image of you know, Olivia
or Tory that he was thinking of. And then we
go for the sonogram and find out we're having a
little girl, and I was like, oh, my gosh. And
then you're born, and I mean, Chloe has the most

(01:11:56):
amazing freckles, a massive, massive curve, and I thought, oh,
so you were with him during that time, and it just,
I don't know, it just reminds me that there's something
otherworldly and angelic and special about you. And I just
love you. Oh, I just love you.

Speaker 2 (01:12:15):
Mom.

Speaker 1 (01:12:16):
Thank you all right, enough much, she's done, Go ahead.

Speaker 2 (01:12:19):
Have you ever told the story about me parting the clouds?

Speaker 1 (01:12:23):
No? Oh, let's tell that story. Do you remember it
or do you remember me telling you it? Because you
were so really little, I like I remember it in
the sense that I'm like, it's something I would say,
But I don't know if I like, yeah, it's definitely
something you would say. So when Chloe was little. She
had this habit. It was so adorable. This was when
you were like three, four or five. You would hand

(01:12:46):
me a little notebook and say, write this down. You remember,
I said most of them so you've seen them. But
she would like dictate these amazing stories of fairies. And
that was fantastic. But one time you came to me
at and this one I think I wrote down just
because I had to. I can't remember if you told me,
but you said, I'm so glad I picked you to

(01:13:08):
be my mom. And I said, I'm so glad you
picked me too, honey. And you said, I remember how
it happened, and you said, I remember being I think
you used the words in heaven, but I'm not sure.
I think I said in the cloud, in the clouds, okay,
in the clouds, And you said you were like up high,

(01:13:28):
like in a tower, and God came up to you,
and you said, he was really, really, really big, and
he said it's time to pick your parents. And he
leaned out this little like Rapunzel tower window. It's just
how I kind of pictured it in my head. And
he moved his hand and the clouds moved away, and
then you saw three sets of parents, and you picked us.

Speaker 2 (01:13:51):
I remember as just like there was three clouds, and
I was like, I saw someone's face and hers was
the biggest smile, and she had the best hair, and
so I think, and she looks like the sun, and so.

Speaker 1 (01:14:03):
I just I reached out to that cloud. You picked
me because of my hair, and you're stunning always in
my mind. For I don't remember that detail, but I
love the story. Well, I love that, and that's another
example of how you've always been doing mystical things like that,
you know, because that's just who you are. And I

(01:14:25):
can't wait to see what you do with your big,
beautiful heart and your amazing, glorious light. And I don't
care what you do for a career as long, really
I don't, as long as you're happy and you're fulfilling
your amazing talents. But I do hope that you always, always,

(01:14:45):
always trust and listen to that still small voice within,
because it is wiser than I am, and it'll never
ever lead you astray. I love you, I love you mom,
and I love all of you listeners. Thank you so
very much for listening to this episode. We hope you
learn something from Chloe's amazing journey into developing as an

(01:15:09):
intuitive and we hope that you have a fantastic week
filled with your own mystical experiences. Ask for signs about
who your animal guide is. Ask to have an amazing
dream tonight. You never know what will happen, and as always,
tell them what to do.

Speaker 2 (01:15:26):
Chloe, remember to be the light for yourself and others.

Speaker 1 (01:15:31):
Have a great week everyone. Thank you for listening to
Psychic Teachers, your podcast for seekers, light workers, mystics, and
magical thinkers. If you like the show, please tell a
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