November 16, 2025 • 51 mins
Is intuition contagious? Can you catch psychic ability if you're around an intuitive person? Believe it or not - research says yes. Joining Samantha on this week's show to dive into this topic is her husband Michael who's had a big increase in psychic dreams and intuitive hits since being emmeshed in the world of woo!
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If you have a question or story to share with us, send us an email at psychicteachers@gmail.com.
For more information on us, check out our websites: debbowen.com and samanthafey.com.
You can also find Samantha on Instagram @samanthaofey.
You can find our eCourses on crystals, tarot, manifesting and moon magic. Plus we both offer wonderful guided meditations and you can find signed copies of our books.
Be sure to check out Samantha’s other podcast Enlightened Empaths.
Have a great week. Be the Light!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey guys, hope you enjoy this upcoming show. Since deb
is on vacation this week, I asked Michael to come
on and share some of his intuitive experiences he's had
in the last few years to help me answer a
question is intuition contagious? Before we dive into his experiences,
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a free one ounce crystal clear spray. Okay, let's get
the show started. Hello, and welcome to Psychic Teachers. I'm
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your host, Samantha fay Dev is on a much needed vacation,
and so I have my beautiful, handsome host with me, Michael,
to talk about a really intriguing question that I've been
thinking about for a long time, especially since you and
I have gotten to know each other in the early years.
Is intuition contagious? So before we dive into that, can
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you catch psychic ability? We thought we would first just
give you an update on our wedding and our honeymoon.
And what a great job Dad did she eating?
Speaker 2 (02:00):
It was great. We went to meet with her a
couple of weeks prior and I was confident then, and yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
She had everything set and ready to go, and she
was just a professional as always. Yes, I loved it
when I first walked down the aisle and gave her
a little kiss on the cheek at a hug and
then she said, Okay, everybody phones away.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. My brother got scared when.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
You could hear the teachers. So the wedding was great,
and I've shared a couple of photos on my Instagram page.
If you guys want to check those out. We're still
waiting on some of the more professional ones that he
did of me, you and Deb, so I'll put those
when the photographer gets back to us. But I was
so overwhelmed by the emotion of just having you there,
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having Deb officiate, having our children there, and they all
gave such beautiful speeches.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Yes, it is just.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
All our friends and family. I couldn't best for a
better day.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
It was great. It was It was perfect. The weather
didn't cooperate as well as we would so, but yeah,
it was great seeing everybody. People came in from out
of town. It was a really great time to be
with everyone, It really was.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
And then we went on a fantastic honeymoon. We went
to Greece and Italy and France and Spain and we
got to see all sort of wonderful things.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
Yes, it was great.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
I especially loved going to the island of Delos off
of Mikinos, that four thousand year old island.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Yeah, that was my favorite as well as far as
tour goes and informational.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
But I have to tell everybody our room story because
listeners know how much I've been dying to see the
Vatican and you worked so hard to slan the perfect
day for us.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
Yeah, it was everything. And I was excited for you
as well, because I know you really I mean, I
want to go with the Vatican also, but I was
really looking forward to seeing you enjoy it.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
Yeah. So he signed us up for this really small excursions.
So it was just us and two other couples, and
so I'm thinking it's going to be like Disney Skip
the Line Fast Passed.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
Yeah, and it kind of was. When we went to
the Pantheon and the Trubby Fountain and we had a
lovely lunch, and then we get to the Vatican and
it was like New York City Times Square New Year's e.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
It reminded me of like a refugee camp inundated with
people trying to get over the wall. Yeah, that's what
it was like, but a little bit more organized. Yeah,
it was. It was. It was insane.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
It was so so crowded. It was the Jewbilee year,
and King Charles and Queen Cambella had been there the
day before. The Vatican had canceled everyone's tickets. They just
emptied out the whole place for the King and Queen,
so all those people from the day before were also
in our line, so it was it was beautiful. It
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was a lot. It was amazing, but the lines and
the waiting and all of that was overwhelming. And at
the end, when we finished with the Sistine Chapel, our
guy told us, I'm so sorry we don't have time
to go to Saint Peter's. And I was devastated.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
He's seen a look on her face.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
But fine, we had to, you know, we had to
keep going. So we get back and we overhear these
four ladies who really could have just come off of
an audition for Real Housewives of Beverly Hills, right like
just yeah, like very sweet, but I don't think they
were like tried in true Catholics, right like Noah. So
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they're gibber jabbering and talking away about their day in Rome,
and one of them goes, but it was so great
that we got to see the Pope bless those children
and Saint Peter's and I was like, do.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
You want to see pictures?
Speaker 1 (05:49):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (05:50):
Oh, was staring at me the whole time.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
Yeah. I was just like, are you kidding me? The
Pope was right there when I was there, and we
missed it. Everything else was perfect.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
I mean my favorite poet The big Old tubs, the
big old tubs.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
Oh yeah, they have these huge marble tubs. They were
like the Emperor's tubs. Wasn't one of them one of
the Pope's tubs?
Speaker 2 (06:12):
They said. It was like either the Pope's tubs or
the Roman emperors. Each one of them, I guess, had
commissioned a different tub. And when you say tub, it
was big enough to fit a family of.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
Seven, easily, huge, huge marble tubs. And all I could
think about were the servants who had to fill that
with John after John after jug warm water. But anyway,
that was fantastic. I loved our lunch in Tuscany. That
was beautiful. And I think we loved France and Spain
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even more.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
Yeah. Yeah, location wise, those were definitely my favorite. South
of France was beautiful. We went going in saying, okay,
which one of these places will we go back to
and spend four or five days a week? Even in
south of France. Monico Monte Carlo, of course, would be
one of those. Yeah, yeah, would be the one. Mayorca,
Spain was probably a close second. And the mountain side,
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the mountains of Majorca, the beaches were beautiful and erequency.
They were beaches, but the mountains were incredible.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
Absolutely. So again, I posted some photos of the Vatican
and our trip to Dlos on my Instagram, so you
guys can see it there. Okay, so now we're back
home and we're going to get back to our main
topic today, which is can you catch intuitive ability the
same way you catch a cold. Well research says there
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actually might be something to this. There is a well
documented phenomenon that suggests our interstates are far more connected
than we realize, and this is called emotional contagion and
social contagion. So emotional condation refers to that spontaneous spread
of emotions and behaviors from one person to another. And
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this happens because we unconsciously or automatically mimic the emotion
expressions like smiles or frowns of those around us, and
this mimicry can actually trigger the corresponding emotion in our
own brains. So think about like how quickly stress or
calm can spread through a room, or how someone can
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just make you feel better with a calming presence or voice.
And then there's something called social contagion, and this is
the spontaneous spread of behavior's, emotions, or even ideas through
a group or network. Studies have found that things like
happiness and even generosity can spread through social networks. I've
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seen this in a positive way and a negative way,
like haven't you ever worked with a group of people
who are just super negative where they don't want to
do a lot of work or come together? That spreads
through the whole office. And then I've also worked with
people who were like super gango and excited, and then
that spreads through. So how does this relate to intuition. Well,
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intuition schrevily relies on our feality to quickly and accurately
decode nonverbal behavior like body language, tone, subtle facial cues.
And since emotional contagion is all about mimicry and feeling
others emotional states, a highly intuitive person is likely more
attentive and sensitive to these social emotional cues, making the
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people around them more susceptible to catching them. So, when
you are deeply attuned to another person's emotional state, you are,
in a sense, getting a real time embodied download of
their internal world. If their intuition or insight is firing,
that emotional cognitive shitt could be part of what you
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are catching through the mechanisms of social and emotional contagion.
You are basically syncing up our automatic, gut driven responses
ripple through our social web. You're intuitive, Yes, you're silent knowing.
They don't stop with you. They reach out under the radar,
inviting others to join that frequency. And this is good
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news in more ways than just becoming more psychically sensitive.
Research also shows that when people act from these intuitive responses,
they often choose cooperation and trust and show a huge
spike and generosity. So that means it's a very good
thing to be around an intuitive person. So the reason
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why I wanted to bring you on, Michael, to discuss
this is because when we first met, you said you
were a little bit open to this psychic world I
was living in, but you were not psychic great, and
since we have been together, you've had a lot of
psychic experiences that I wanted you to share with listeners.
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And that's what's led me to wonder were you always intuitive,
which I think you were, because I think everyone is,
and you just learned to push it down or ignore
it ated and maybe being with someone like me and
seeing the positive aspects of being intuitive rubbed off on you.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
Yeah, I think so. Going back to your two examples,
emotional contagion and social contagent, I think they're both valid
options for me personally. I think social contagion would be
really difficult for me to come to grips with any
kind of intuitive feelings because I would be aware of
me being in a situation where I would feel like
I was just mimicking and being in that group. Right.
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The emotional contagent, I definitely think, is where I guess
the category that I fall into, because I think, again,
like you said, everybody has a little intuition, some more
than others, even though they're not really aware of it.
I think maybe the professions that we go into have
always said I can read people very very well in situations,
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very very well, went into the police department.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
I think you subconsciously used that intuition in your obviously.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Yeah, I think I think everybody does. That's good at it.
But I think again, everybody is intuitive, but I think
there's different things and reasons why people would push them down,
and it could be unconscious reasons, right, or emotional trauma
or what have you. But like I said myself, the
emotional part of it is huge, because I told you
numerous times. You know, when I moved to Wilmington, I
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just felt just a calming rush. And you are the reason,
or we are the reason that I am, and I
know that, there's no doubt in my mind. It's interesting
because that's when.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
You had your first Oh yeah, all right, so let's
tell people about that because shortly before.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
We met we haven't even met.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
No, I hadn't even met, but you had a psychic
dream that I feel led the groundwork for us to
meet in a way, because then when I told you
what I did and about my first book, you weren't.
So I don't know put off or shocks by that.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
Yeah, no, I never never know.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
You would have been anywhere.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
No, not at all. The way No, I've said it before,
the way you present everything you're not. You know, you're
not floating in the living room and you'rening around hanging
upside down and meditating all day as I walk by you.
So it's you know, it's almost an afterthought. But you
also present it in a very scientific way, which is
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what I need. I need facts. I need a line
from start to finish to get me to the endpoint.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
Yeah, I think most people do, all right, So tell
us about this experience.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
So again, it was a few months before we met maybe,
so just a little context of backstory. So I'd have a
very good friend growing up, pretty much spent all day
junior high and high school, college, spent time together. Then
that person moved away to another state, and we kept
in touch periodically every couple of months, and then as
the decades, you know, years had gone by, it would
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be one phone call, one text message, one phone call
a year, sometimes every two years. And I had just
actually seen this person. They had come back probably about
a year and a half prior, and that was the
last time that I kind of spoke to them. So
I was which normally happens to me. It's that I'll
wake up and I'll lay there and go back to sleep,
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and that's kind of when these things have happened. So
I'm sitting there and I'm having to dream about this person.
And I wake up and I said to myself, I said,
why why am I dreaming about this person? Like I
haven't spoken to them in over a year and a half.
So I got up and I was getting ready to
go to the gym, and I got a phone call
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and it was the spouse of my friend letting me
know that he had passed the night before. And I
was just floored, and you know, obviously I was upset
and everything like that, but to just have it. I
almost wanted to blurt it out to this person and say,
you know, but I was trying not to be inappropriate
because it was devastating news. But yeah, that was the first.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
Do you think he was coming by to say goodbye
to I?
Speaker 2 (15:01):
Guess is what?
Speaker 1 (15:02):
You you know?
Speaker 2 (15:02):
If yeah, the dream wasn't about that, It was just
about nothing. If I remember, he was just there and
a big part of the dream, So yeah, I would
say that's probably it. Freaking out of it, But yeah,
that was That was the first experience.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
That's pretty amazing, And I think it's just another something.
Dev and I often say on this show that when
souls are transitioning, they will visit their friends and loved ones.
It's like a quick little goodbye, almost like how you
might text your brother before you go on a trip.
You know, you might pop into their dream to say goodbye,
I love you. You meant a lot to me, so
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you told me about that, I think on our first date,
or when I.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
Told you trying to show you cool.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
I think it was right when I told you what
I did for a living, you shared that dream as
a way to say, I get it. You know I'm
open to that type of stuff. Yes, as well, and
you would ask me questions about it from time to time.
But then about six months into us dating, you started
telling me that when you would late in bed at
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night trying to fall asleep, will you tell everyone?
Speaker 2 (16:14):
So you had started teaching me about the chakras and
all that. I've always found it odd that when I
closed my eyes and I'm just laying there, and I
guess you would call it meditating trying to go to sleep,
it was almost like I could see the room, like
I could see where. I knew where everything was, but
I saw it what my eyes closed, if that makes sense.
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And then once we were together and I fell in
love with you, I was able when I close my
eyes now it's almost like that room has opened up
and it's just vast, and I started just seeing pictures
and as I'm falling asleep, and it was really Sometimes
it was comforting, sometimes it wasn't. And I was still
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relatively conscious while this was happening, so I was saying
to myself, a right, making this stuff up in my
head literally, but yeah, I enjoy it. It helps me relax,
and I don't know what it is.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
It's kind of a magical feeling when you just follow
those images.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
Yeah. Yeah, and that's the thing. I would have to
follow them with my eyes and not it wasn't just
right in front. I would have to follow as it was.
They were kind of transitioning, which I thought.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
Was interesting, and that, to me, is such a sign
of the third eye opening. When you're able to see
those pictures and those colors and get that, it's almost
like you're falling through that dream space.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
Yeah. The colors started probably a few months ago. And
I remember you telling me a while back that I
forgot what color he said.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
Blue, purpling, darkly.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
Yeah, and it just it opened up like right away,
and it was just color, a bunch of colors, a
lot of purples and blues and everything was there and
I was like, Mop, this is pretty cool. But yeah,
that probably started about six months ago, so very very
good sign.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
And if you guys want to increase that, you just
lay in bed on your back and you close your eyes,
and with your eyes closed, you look up into the
center of your forehead. And a lot of people say
it also helps if you can keep your tongue on
the roof of your mouth and then just follow the colors,
and it's a great way to fall asleep and also
primes the subconscious to have more interactive soul travel dreams.
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I want to talk about the chakras real quick, because
I did a chakra clearing balancing on you, and I
know it was helpful to you, but it was so
intriguing to me because I've done chakra balancings and cleansings
on people and friends and clients for twenty years now
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and I love being able to do it, and I
will often if I have my hands on someone's chakra
or over that energy center, I will often see images,
or get an intuitive insight, or hear a song. But
it's usually snippets on maybe three or four of the chakras.
When I did your chakra session, I saw images from
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your life in every single chakra, almost like sometimes it
was like a little movie screen playing out in front
of me, and I could feel your whole team there
and they were trying so hard to show you all
the beautiful things that God had put in your path
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to lead you in different directions. It was one of
the most mystical experiences I personally had because usually when
I'm doing that, I'm in a giving mode, you know
what I mean, Like I'm giving and sharing energy or
holding space for energy. I'm not really a part of it.
It's not about me. But with you, it was like
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I was a part of the significant events in your upbringing.
It was just really, really profound. And my favorite was
your heart chakra because it was just filled with all
these people who have and do love you. That was
just it was just a beautiful thing. It's just a
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good reminder that the practitioner is always learning and growing too,
because I know, well, hold on. I don't recommend that.
I do think when you're doing psychic intuitive energy work
on someone, I think it is key to get yourself
out of the way because we are just a conduit.
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I always tell my students when you're doing any of
this work, you are a straw. The energy is coming
through you, not from you. But I think because we're
so connected, I couldn't get out of the way, so
it'd be interesting to hear from other energy healers who
have done this type of work on their partner. If
it's that same type of connection, that's interesting. Do you
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want to talk about some of your other intuitive dreams?
Speaker 2 (20:55):
Sure? A similar experience lifelong friend, so back to we
would make fun of him, and he was on a
TV show and we just made fun of him consistently
for it to the point where the song was the
theme was his ring tone on my cell phone. So
similar situation. I was at Little Twilight Sleep Night I'll
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call it or whatever, and I started I heard the song.
I heard the song, and I woke up. And I
woke up and the first thing I did was I
looked at the phone to see what time it was,
and on my phone was I don't know, maybe thirty
forty missed text messages and missed phone calls from the
night before, and he had passed tragically in the evening.
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So it was starting to feel like the Harbyger of
sorrow because all this bad stuff keeps happening when I
have dreams. And to go back to the emotional part
for me, I feel like I've shut everything down because
it's just freaking me out that everything I think of
is just negative.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
Yeah, I think that's so important, and that's one of
the reasons I wanted us to get to this part
of opening up to your intuition. This is the moment
where you are now where ninety five percent of people
shut it down because it's the negative stuff that is
coming through. But negative is a very relative term. First
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of all, right, Like I would look at those two
dream experiences. They they're negative in the fact that what
followed was learning that two people you loved and cared
for deeply were now on the other side. But they're
positive in that that is such an evidence that love
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goes on. You know that death cannot end that love,
and so I think those are actually positive experiences if
you choose to frame it that way. When I one
hundred years from now it's my turn to cross that
rainbow bridge, my first thoughts are going to be my children, you,
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my sisters. Oh, I hope I have time to think
of other friends that I want. But the fact that
your friend, in that moment of transitioning, you were one
of the people he energetically reached out to, what a gift.
So I think it's a positive thing. But the other
aspect with opening up to your intuition is that negative
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energy is very dense. It's very thick, it's very heavy.
Think about being around a negative person, you feel heavy,
your shoulders kind of slag, You're like, oh, here we
go again. And then think about being around a positive person,
you sit up straight, or your shoulders relax. You feel
lighter than its other because they're so light. So negative
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energy has a density, almost like a physicality to it.
So it's super super easy for beginner intuitives to pick
up on that negative energy. Whereas if you want to
use your intuition to pick up on more positive things,
you have to work really hard to lift and raise
your vibrations and keep them light.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
That's hard.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
That's hard when you're dealing with work and family and
bills to pay and negative crap on the news. You
have to really really work at keeping your energy lifted
on an emotional level, but also on a spiritual level,
because if you really do want to get only positive messages,
which I don't think is necessarily possible, but if you
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want to get more positive, also have to do the spiritual,
energetic work of cleansing your chakras and listening to certain
music and cleaning out and smudging your home like those
types of things as well, which I don't know that
you're all down with that, but that's okay smudging. I
don't love cleaning the air filters because.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
Yeah, but yeah, no, I do appreciate those experiences. I do.
It's just been you know, we just spoke of it
that I just told Samantha about something that I've been
wholly in for you know, a while. It was just
an experience, very vivid, emotional fear thought, yeah, fear thought, Yeah,
I guess, but it just came out of nowhere and
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while I was awake, and I just really have been
struggling with it and not even wanting to talk about it,
to not even put it out right in the world. Yeah,
So I can see why, you know, I've been pushing
things away, and it saddens me because I do feel
lighter when I'm open. I mean good news. I did
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have a dream about one of my old sergeants the
other night, and I woke up and I was like,
why what was I dreaming about on him? And I
was like, oh no, did I kill him? But luckily
I have a group chat with all of my former
associates and police officers, and one of them the next
day posted a picture I guess who I saw And
(25:47):
I ran into at some event and it was this
sergeant like, goodies.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
Awif all right, you didn kill him, tell us about
the other dream you had that was kind of negative,
but I had a positive.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
Positive spin outcome. So again I had a dream and
it was an old associated line that I hadn't spoken to.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
In twenty years.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
Yeah, at least at least and he moved out of
New York. People talked to him periodically, but he's not
one that's very you know, social and reaching out to people.
The bottom line is I had a dream that he
was sick, and I woke up the next day and
got on the group chat. One of the main guys
he's like the glue and he's still kind of involved
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and what have you. So I know he talks to
this former officer and I reached out to him and
I said, hey, is so it's okay? I said why
And I told him, I said, well, it's just sound
a little weird. And I told him. He was like, no,
I get it. He goes, yeah, he just found out
that he has cancer and he has to go back
and forth to New York to get treatment. So I
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was like, wow, that's crazy. You had mentioned that I
should reach out to him and just let him know
that he's being cared for and looked after. So I
sent him a text because I didn't really know. I
was like, hey, we're weird here, and.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
Did you say, like, had this dream?
Speaker 2 (27:11):
I did. I mean, I'm just gonna go out and
I haven't spoken to you in thirty years. Don't worry
about it. You have to, like everybody's looking forward to
looking after you. You're gonna be okay. So I sent him
a text and he called me and he was kind
of like, you know, but he called and I said, listen,
I just, you know, want to let you know that
I just it was just odd that I had this thing.
And he said yeah, yeah, you know, yeah, you.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
Know that whole but you never know the ripple effect
that that might have got. Even if he couldn't admit.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
It, you know, he didn't really talk about it that
kind of thing.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
Yeah, it's hard to talk about sure. So I think
it's great that you did that. I think it's brave
that you acted on that, you know, because these are
a bunch of tough guys who don't actually talk about
this stuff. And the first friend you reached out, didn't
he say something like, yeah, I hind dream.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
Yeah, it happens to me. It's happened to me few times. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
I thought that was really really cool that he said that.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
Yeah, and he's you know, you know, military, police department,
all that other stuff. Yeah, thirty years in both of them,
but yeah, it was odd to get him to respond
like that said. Yeah, he goes, it's not weird. I've
had that happen to me too. I was like, okay,
so there you go.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
And then earlier this fall, I thought we had a
really fascinating shared experience. So I had I had woken
up really early one morning and I just had this
feeling that I needed to meditate, and so I did.
And when I was meditating, I like to just kind
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of lay there and see what I need to do,
either just marinate in the silence or maybe do a
chakra clearing or whatever. But it's different each time. And
this time I felt really really strongly that I had
to do a cord cutting meditation, and I thought, well,
(29:05):
that's interesting. Who do I have to cut chords? With
and so I instantly saw this person who's been putting
a little bit of negative energy towards me and you,
and I was like, oh okay. And so normally you
guys have heard dev and I talk about cord cutting
for years on the show. Usually I will ask to
see where the cord is, what chakra it's in, and
(29:25):
it's usually like a rope or a cable or a
bungee cord. This time, when I asked to see the cord,
it was not a cord. It was tiny, thin, pliable,
thorny branches that were going through my entire body. They
were all connected at the chakras, but they were everywhere,
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and so I of course called an archangel, Michael and
asked him to help me pull all of these thorny
branches out. And it took a long time. And there's
a part of me that's like, Okay, I'm just going
to go with this image that I'm making up in
my head, and another part of me was like, this
is this feels very real. It felt very this really real.
(30:10):
So I finished that, I go to my yoga class.
I come back and I say, hey, good morning to you,
and you said I had the strangest dream last night.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
Yeah, So I don't usually remember dreams, just that I
had them and kind of what they were about, unless
they were these significant ones that I explained earlier, and
this one I remembered. And when I got up, I said,
I just gotta have to tell Samantha bad because I
gotta get out because if I don't, I may forget
about it. So, knowing nothing of cord cutting or anything
that Samantha just explained, I said to her, I said, yeah,
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I had this really weird dream last night that I
was almost like a magician pulling the ribbons consistently, and
I was pulling a string of thorns out of my
mouth and I just kept coming and coming in. It
was like those almost like dead leaves crumply and they
would just come and just crumble as I was pulling
them out. And I almost wanted to say, what does
that mean? Like I could figure it out, but I
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wanted to tell you because I wanted you to know
that I had that dream and to kind of help me,
you know, figure out where that came from.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
And I freaked out because I had gotten up so
early and you had that dream like the same time.
I'm doing this courtesiding meditation you were probably having that day,
and I thought, what are the odd of that?
Speaker 2 (31:30):
Get my head?
Speaker 1 (31:31):
I know, right, no, but I think it was like an.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
Actual I didn't even think of that that it was.
I figured it was that we both had them that night,
but I didn't realize it probably was around the same time.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
Yeah, Wow, isn't that wild? Yeah, and I think it was.
I'd like to think it was our guides being like, hey,
you guys have to get this negative energy that's being
projected towards you out of your system, and here's how
you do it. So I thought that was really interesting
and another example of how that intuitive energy is almost
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like a contesion, as we were saying at the beginning
of the show crazy. So that's just another reminder that
everyone should be doing at least monthly cord cutting meditations,
because you never know who's sending you bad energy. You
just never know. All Right, let's take a very quick break,
and when we come back, we'll talk a little bit
more about how doing into your intuition can really enhance
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your day to day life.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
We'll be right back.
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Speaker 1 (34:07):
Okay, welcome back. So Michael, how do you feel talking
about some of these intuition experiences because I think guys
have a different stigma on them often.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
Yeah, honestly talking to you today makes me feel a
lot better, even before we started with what I was
mentioning for about how I've been kind of pushing things down,
not pushing things down, but freaked out and just I
know that's been a negative and I've been blocking things
not as open as I have been. It makes me confident.
(34:40):
I feel like I don't second guess decisions, which I
never really did in the beginning, but I would put
a lot of thought into things, and I'm being spontaneous.
I'm very confident in the decisions that I make, knowing
that everything I've done up to this point in my
life has led me to this point been doing something right.
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And it makes me happy that I have taken everything
that I've experienced in my life and not really questioned it,
learned from it. But yeah, it makes me confident in
relationships that I'm in with people and just the decisions
of the life. The day to day stuff that I make.
Speaker 1 (35:16):
Yeah, it does make it easier when you have that
intuitive knowing. I think it makes it to me. Embracing
my intuition just makes life as a whole so much
more meaningful because I really do feel and sense the
connection between and among everything and everyone, and that just
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makes me see the magic and just a leaf falling
from a tree or does the littlest things. And I
absolutely do love and appreciate that. I understand your fear
and hesitancy one hundred percent because it is hard when
you get information or insight about something frightening that could
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possibly be coming up. And I always wonder do we
get those hits because we're supposed to do something to
prevent it, or do we get those hits because time
is not relevant. It's all happening now and those of
us who are a little bit more intuitive can just
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peek into the future. This is how I describe it.
It's like we're all on a highway, okay, and someone
who's completely shut off to their intuition is like in
a little Mini Cooper or a Prius, and someone who's
like kind of open and maybe not they don't know,
they're like in an suv. But people who are fully
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open and turned on and tuned into their intuition, they're
driving a huge semi truck, meaning we can see a
little bit further down the road.
Speaker 2 (36:55):
Does that Yeah, that's a great metaphor. And also to
expand on that, what I was thinking while you were
talking was is me or another reason why we're given
the information or people are given the information is that
we have the ability to handle it, and we have
the ability to be prepared or prepare ourselves for everybody else,
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our children or what have you. And you send my
truck with the big cab in the back, having all
that space to fill with that information. That's the way
I've always looked at anything in my life that did
things happened bad good because I was able to handle
them and somebody felt that I was able to handle them.
Speaker 1 (37:34):
But I also think when we're given that information, whether
it's because we're peeking into the future or because we
may be able to do something to prevent it, which
is really rare. Usually, Yeah, it's just given.
Speaker 2 (37:46):
Me a feeling I've done. I've never thought that.
Speaker 1 (37:49):
But I always am told when I meditate about it
that one of the reasons we get it is because
we can send prayers and blessings to that situation in
advance of it happening, and we can send prayers and
blessings and positive energy to the person that we might
be intuitively thinking about. And I do think that's important,
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but really, really do. I think that helps tremendously. But
I understand why all of that can be a little
bit scary and almost like a burden. You know, I
told you before we were recording last week, I got
a message from a friend's loved one in spirit about
something positive coming up anytime I meditated and he would
(38:34):
come around. I didn't get a specific it was just
a birthday celebration, and I didn't do anything with it
because I know this friend and I know she doesn't
have a birthday coming up. And then I'm scrolling through
social media and what away see her child just had
a birthday, and I was like, damn it, why didn't
I pass that message on? And then this morning, when
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I was meditating, I got a not so good message
about someone who might be needing some help coming up
in the next couple of months, And you know, obviously
not going to share that because I think it's really
important that we are good stewards of the intuitive information
that we receive, and if it's negative or it's going
(39:14):
to cause fear or anxiety, I do think we need
to hold it and use that energy and that information
to just send that individual prayer. But that is the
tricky thing about being an intuitive is there's a lot
of morals and ethics that go along with it. And
I wanted to talk about something else that I know
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Denise and I have talked about on our podcast En
Latent and Past. I'm not sure that we've talked about
it here, but it's called the mediumship battery, and it's
the idea that medium, psychics, and spiritual workers can draw, exchange,
or amplify energy through their interactions with each other and
with spirit in a way that's reminiscent of a battery
(39:58):
being charged in dist charged for example, in readings. The
medium is considered a conduit of energy, and it's often
described as being almost like an etheric vehicle that acts
like a reserve of energy. I first read about this
in Sylvan Muldoon's book called The Projection of the Astral Body,
and the very first time he was able to spontaneously
(40:20):
astral project his consciousness was when he was staying in
a home that was serving as a boarding house for mediums,
and so he always wondered if he was able to
leave his body that way and walk around the house
in his spirit form because of the energy of all
the mediums in that home and what I've gone to
(40:41):
see other really really well known, fabulous mediums do presentations.
They've often said that they will ask one or two
medium friends to sit in the audience because that energy
serves to give them a little bit of oomph, because
it does take a lot of energy, you know, to
do mediumship in particular, and so anyway that coupled with
(41:05):
your experiences has just made me really start to wonder
if it is a little bit contagious or is it
just energy energy exchanging between people.
Speaker 2 (41:17):
Yeah, that's a good analogy, the energy exchange with the
two people. It would be beneficial for everybody to have
that additional energy, because I think it will feed off
of it and help enhance amplify your.
Speaker 1 (41:28):
Own I wonder if it's like you're so into sports,
you know how they say teams win more often when
they're playing from their home field or court.
Speaker 2 (41:42):
I don't see that with my team so now.
Speaker 1 (41:46):
Or right, maybe not your teams. But it's a thing,
isn't it because their fans are there cheering them on,
and they think that the energy of that kind of
supers the athlete. Andy sure, I mean I wonder if
it's like that with this work as well.
Speaker 2 (42:00):
Maybe they should well a letter and they should start
hiring psychics assitance.
Speaker 1 (42:05):
Then, okay, should I put a call out to our
listeners to pray for the Raiders and.
Speaker 2 (42:09):
The Raiders, the Mets, the Knicks and the Islanders. The Islanders, Yes,
all psychics, please buy tickets ago sit in the front row,
see if you can get on the bedge okay.
Speaker 1 (42:21):
And then lastly, I just want to share this quote
from doctor David Hamilton. It's in an article he wrote
called Three Paths to Intuition. He says, the body of
scientific evidence suggests that we are connected through some level
of our minds. Researchers at Bastia University in Seattle worked
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with emotionally bonded couples. Couples who shared a strong emotional bond.
One was placed inside an MRI scanner while the other
was in a separate room. When the one in the
room was startled with a visual stimulus that MRI picked
up a flash in the visual cortex of the partner
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in the scanner. Isn't that that's so fascinating? They could
feel it because they were connected. Similar experiments with EEG
have suggested that the interconnectedness is stronger between people who
share a strong emotional bond, which correlates with a lot
of people's personal experience. Many people feel connected to loved
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ones no matter how far apart they are, and would
agree that they get a sense when something is wrong.
This kind of thing is even apparent with animals and
Rupert Sheldrake's book Dogs That Know when their owners are
coming home, he describes experiments where he had sent a
text to a dog owner asking them to right now,
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in that moment, make the decision to leave the office
and head home. And at that instant that they made
their decision, a video camera set up in the home
showed the dog becoming excited and moving to the window.
It's not adorable. And I think all of us who
have for like in family members, we've all experienced that,
(44:06):
oh where the dog or the cat, Well, my cat
doesn't know. She might know, she just doesn't care. But
My dog would always know when I was coming home,
and that was amazing to me. I mean, sometimes my
kids would text it and they would be like, Lily
is pacing in front of the dining room window. Are
you on your way home? And I'd be like, yep,
tell Lily, I'm coming home. So I think all of
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that just shows how it's not so much that intuition
is contagious. It's that energy is contagious, you know. And
we are constantly sharing vast volumes of unseen to us,
invisible information that is passing between our souls, our minds
on this psychic, energetic internet web. And I think it's
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really important for us to be aware of that, because
as wondrous as it is to think about sharing positive energy,
just think about the negative energy that so many of
us unwittingly share.
Speaker 2 (45:07):
Well. Yeah, and I was thinking, like everybody probably experiences
those things, negative and positive. But if you're not open
or even aware or even thinking of it or trying
to open yourself up to it, you're just not gonna know,
and it's not even gonna be a thought in your mind,
like you may just want day walk and go. I
(45:28):
just have this heavy feeling about me today, Well, you
just keep going and then it goes away and not
even thinking that it could be something. And then something
may happen a day later that day and you don't
even irrelate that, but you're together because you're not thinking
about it. And I think that's where I see a
difference in myself.
Speaker 1 (45:46):
Well, I love the idea of normalizing intuition for everyone,
especially I just I really do. I've said it before.
I think so many men in particular have this notion
that they can't be intuitive.
Speaker 2 (46:03):
Well, it also is a stigma to be emotional and
opened emotionally, and I think that's what ultimately needs to happen,
whether or not you're you know, psychic or not. But
just be open to everything around you, yeah, you know,
and and all the emotion that's around you, like you said,
just a leaf falling from you know. And I've been
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luckily and blessed that I've I love, I see the
joy and the beauty and everything that I do during
the day and hear and see, and it's just an
open to all of that emotion. And you know that
they told you an times that's because of you, and
I do appreciate that. And I always will, but yeah,
(46:44):
just being open to life, yeah yeah, and being open
to emotions. I think everything would be fine. I think
would have a great society.
Speaker 1 (46:55):
I did too. I do think that's changing with the
younger generation, so I do, and I hope I'm right
about that. But I don't see those same type of
projections being put onto. You know, men should be and
women should be feminine in kind. That's breaking down, I
(47:15):
think so, which is a good thing for every reason.
But I do think that one of the good outputs
of that is that more people will feel that it's
okay to be intuitive because something that deb and I
have tried really hard to stress on this show. Being
intuitive isn't like, oh, I'm going to be psychic and
start doing readings. Being intuitive is just being tuned into
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all of the unspoken stuff going around you. And if
you're not tuned into that, you're missing ninety percent of
the conversation that's going on in any given women, any
given time, you have to use your intuition to choose
your job, to choose your partner. You should rely on
your intuition to make decisions about what how you're going
to live in or should you take that promotion, or
(48:01):
try for this different job, all of those things. Your
intuition is going to help you with that. But it's
also I think what I love most about it is
it's helped me trust myself and, like you said before,
being more confident in decisions because I know when I
get an off feeling about someone, I know now to
(48:22):
trust that and not to I used to ignore it
and be like, oh, but they're smiling all the time,
and they're saying all these lovely things, And now I
know to just listen to what my intuition is telling me,
and that has been absolutely helpful. And then there's the
daily stuff like the story I told a thousand times
(48:42):
on this show, but it was the first time that
happened to me when I was opening up to my intuition.
I had to go to the DMV and I had
all my stuff, my birth certificate, all of that, and
I kept getting this little message to bring my checkbook,
and I was like, oh, for God's sakes, who doesn't
take a credit card? And so I wait in line.
I remember I had a three hundred and eighty page
(49:03):
book with me. I read the entire book and waited
all day. I get up and she says, Okay, that'll
be such and such dollars. We take cash or check.
And I didn't have cash, and I didn't have a check.
I didn't a check. And I thought, okay, I'm always
going to listen to that. And then you were telling
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me you had a daily psychic hit like that the
other day with the grocery store.
Speaker 2 (49:31):
Oh yeah, yeah, you had this.
Speaker 1 (49:33):
Well, i'll just tell it real quickly. You had this
little thing that you loved that the store has once
in a blue moon, and you woke up one morning
and you really wanted that.
Speaker 2 (49:43):
No, I didn't even tell even that I wanted, and
I just knew that they had it. You knew that
they had it going there, and I was going to
go get.
Speaker 1 (49:47):
It today and they had it.
Speaker 2 (49:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (49:49):
See that's just a great thing about the dailiness of
our intuition.
Speaker 2 (49:53):
Yeah, I mean, do you want to sit inside a
closed off, boxed room or do you want to sit
in a field, blue skies and sunlight and yeah everything,
just a.
Speaker 1 (50:03):
Strong, supportive mountain behind you at a beautiful open sea
in front of you. That's a great metaphor image of
what in open through it ie looks like. Well, thank
you so much for coming on the show, and thank
you guys for tuning in. If you've had a psychic
experience that made you think this was contagious, or you
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were catching you for someone, or if you've had an
emotional connection like some of the things we've shared, would
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a great week.
Hey guys, hope you enjoy this upcoming show. Since deb
is on vacation this week, I asked Michael to come
on and share some of his intuitive experiences he's had
in the last few years to help me answer a
question is intuition contagious? Before we dive into his experiences,
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your host, Samantha fay Dev is on a much needed vacation,
and so I have my beautiful, handsome host with me, Michael,
to talk about a really intriguing question that I've been
thinking about for a long time, especially since you and
I have gotten to know each other in the early years.
Is intuition contagious? So before we dive into that, can
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you catch psychic ability? We thought we would first just
give you an update on our wedding and our honeymoon.
And what a great job Dad did she eating?
Speaker 2 (02:00):
It was great. We went to meet with her a
couple of weeks prior and I was confident then, and yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
She had everything set and ready to go, and she
was just a professional as always. Yes, I loved it
when I first walked down the aisle and gave her
a little kiss on the cheek at a hug and
then she said, Okay, everybody phones away.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. My brother got scared when.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
You could hear the teachers. So the wedding was great,
and I've shared a couple of photos on my Instagram page.
If you guys want to check those out. We're still
waiting on some of the more professional ones that he
did of me, you and Deb, so I'll put those
when the photographer gets back to us. But I was
so overwhelmed by the emotion of just having you there,
(02:51):
having Deb officiate, having our children there, and they all
gave such beautiful speeches.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Yes, it is just.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
All our friends and family. I couldn't best for a
better day.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
It was great. It was It was perfect. The weather
didn't cooperate as well as we would so, but yeah,
it was great seeing everybody. People came in from out
of town. It was a really great time to be
with everyone, It really was.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
And then we went on a fantastic honeymoon. We went
to Greece and Italy and France and Spain and we
got to see all sort of wonderful things.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
Yes, it was great.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
I especially loved going to the island of Delos off
of Mikinos, that four thousand year old island.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Yeah, that was my favorite as well as far as
tour goes and informational.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
But I have to tell everybody our room story because
listeners know how much I've been dying to see the
Vatican and you worked so hard to slan the perfect
day for us.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
Yeah, it was everything. And I was excited for you
as well, because I know you really I mean, I
want to go with the Vatican also, but I was
really looking forward to seeing you enjoy it.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
Yeah. So he signed us up for this really small excursions.
So it was just us and two other couples, and
so I'm thinking it's going to be like Disney Skip
the Line Fast Passed.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
Yeah, and it kind of was. When we went to
the Pantheon and the Trubby Fountain and we had a
lovely lunch, and then we get to the Vatican and
it was like New York City Times Square New Year's e.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
It reminded me of like a refugee camp inundated with
people trying to get over the wall. Yeah, that's what
it was like, but a little bit more organized. Yeah,
it was. It was. It was insane.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
It was so so crowded. It was the Jewbilee year,
and King Charles and Queen Cambella had been there the
day before. The Vatican had canceled everyone's tickets. They just
emptied out the whole place for the King and Queen,
so all those people from the day before were also
in our line, so it was it was beautiful. It
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was a lot. It was amazing, but the lines and
the waiting and all of that was overwhelming. And at
the end, when we finished with the Sistine Chapel, our
guy told us, I'm so sorry we don't have time
to go to Saint Peter's. And I was devastated.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
He's seen a look on her face.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
But fine, we had to, you know, we had to
keep going. So we get back and we overhear these
four ladies who really could have just come off of
an audition for Real Housewives of Beverly Hills, right like
just yeah, like very sweet, but I don't think they
were like tried in true Catholics, right like Noah. So
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they're gibber jabbering and talking away about their day in Rome,
and one of them goes, but it was so great
that we got to see the Pope bless those children
and Saint Peter's and I was like, do.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
You want to see pictures?
Speaker 1 (05:49):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (05:50):
Oh, was staring at me the whole time.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
Yeah. I was just like, are you kidding me? The
Pope was right there when I was there, and we
missed it. Everything else was perfect.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
I mean my favorite poet The big Old tubs, the
big old tubs.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
Oh yeah, they have these huge marble tubs. They were
like the Emperor's tubs. Wasn't one of them one of
the Pope's tubs?
Speaker 2 (06:12):
They said. It was like either the Pope's tubs or
the Roman emperors. Each one of them, I guess, had
commissioned a different tub. And when you say tub, it
was big enough to fit a family of.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
Seven, easily, huge, huge marble tubs. And all I could
think about were the servants who had to fill that
with John after John after jug warm water. But anyway,
that was fantastic. I loved our lunch in Tuscany. That
was beautiful. And I think we loved France and Spain
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even more.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
Yeah. Yeah, location wise, those were definitely my favorite. South
of France was beautiful. We went going in saying, okay,
which one of these places will we go back to
and spend four or five days a week? Even in
south of France. Monico Monte Carlo, of course, would be
one of those. Yeah, yeah, would be the one. Mayorca,
Spain was probably a close second. And the mountain side,
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the mountains of Majorca, the beaches were beautiful and erequency.
They were beaches, but the mountains were incredible.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
Absolutely. So again, I posted some photos of the Vatican
and our trip to Dlos on my Instagram, so you
guys can see it there. Okay, so now we're back
home and we're going to get back to our main
topic today, which is can you catch intuitive ability the
same way you catch a cold. Well research says there
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actually might be something to this. There is a well
documented phenomenon that suggests our interstates are far more connected
than we realize, and this is called emotional contagion and
social contagion. So emotional condation refers to that spontaneous spread
of emotions and behaviors from one person to another. And
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this happens because we unconsciously or automatically mimic the emotion
expressions like smiles or frowns of those around us, and
this mimicry can actually trigger the corresponding emotion in our
own brains. So think about like how quickly stress or
calm can spread through a room, or how someone can
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just make you feel better with a calming presence or voice.
And then there's something called social contagion, and this is
the spontaneous spread of behavior's, emotions, or even ideas through
a group or network. Studies have found that things like
happiness and even generosity can spread through social networks. I've
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seen this in a positive way and a negative way,
like haven't you ever worked with a group of people
who are just super negative where they don't want to
do a lot of work or come together? That spreads
through the whole office. And then I've also worked with
people who were like super gango and excited, and then
that spreads through. So how does this relate to intuition. Well,
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intuition schrevily relies on our feality to quickly and accurately
decode nonverbal behavior like body language, tone, subtle facial cues.
And since emotional contagion is all about mimicry and feeling
others emotional states, a highly intuitive person is likely more
attentive and sensitive to these social emotional cues, making the
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people around them more susceptible to catching them. So, when
you are deeply attuned to another person's emotional state, you are,
in a sense, getting a real time embodied download of
their internal world. If their intuition or insight is firing,
that emotional cognitive shitt could be part of what you
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are catching through the mechanisms of social and emotional contagion.
You are basically syncing up our automatic, gut driven responses
ripple through our social web. You're intuitive, Yes, you're silent knowing.
They don't stop with you. They reach out under the radar,
inviting others to join that frequency. And this is good
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news in more ways than just becoming more psychically sensitive.
Research also shows that when people act from these intuitive responses,
they often choose cooperation and trust and show a huge
spike and generosity. So that means it's a very good
thing to be around an intuitive person. So the reason
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why I wanted to bring you on, Michael, to discuss
this is because when we first met, you said you
were a little bit open to this psychic world I
was living in, but you were not psychic great, and
since we have been together, you've had a lot of
psychic experiences that I wanted you to share with listeners.
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And that's what's led me to wonder were you always intuitive,
which I think you were, because I think everyone is,
and you just learned to push it down or ignore
it ated and maybe being with someone like me and
seeing the positive aspects of being intuitive rubbed off on you.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
Yeah, I think so. Going back to your two examples,
emotional contagion and social contagent, I think they're both valid
options for me personally. I think social contagion would be
really difficult for me to come to grips with any
kind of intuitive feelings because I would be aware of
me being in a situation where I would feel like
I was just mimicking and being in that group. Right.
(11:31):
The emotional contagent, I definitely think, is where I guess
the category that I fall into, because I think, again,
like you said, everybody has a little intuition, some more
than others, even though they're not really aware of it.
I think maybe the professions that we go into have
always said I can read people very very well in situations,
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very very well, went into the police department.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
I think you subconsciously used that intuition in your obviously.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Yeah, I think I think everybody does. That's good at it.
But I think again, everybody is intuitive, but I think
there's different things and reasons why people would push them down,
and it could be unconscious reasons, right, or emotional trauma
or what have you. But like I said myself, the
emotional part of it is huge, because I told you
numerous times. You know, when I moved to Wilmington, I
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just felt just a calming rush. And you are the reason,
or we are the reason that I am, and I
know that, there's no doubt in my mind. It's interesting
because that's when.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
You had your first Oh yeah, all right, so let's
tell people about that because shortly before.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
We met we haven't even met.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
No, I hadn't even met, but you had a psychic
dream that I feel led the groundwork for us to
meet in a way, because then when I told you
what I did and about my first book, you weren't.
So I don't know put off or shocks by that.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
Yeah, no, I never never know.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
You would have been anywhere.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
No, not at all. The way No, I've said it before,
the way you present everything you're not. You know, you're
not floating in the living room and you'rening around hanging
upside down and meditating all day as I walk by you.
So it's you know, it's almost an afterthought. But you
also present it in a very scientific way, which is
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what I need. I need facts. I need a line
from start to finish to get me to the endpoint.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
Yeah, I think most people do, all right, So tell
us about this experience.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
So again, it was a few months before we met maybe,
so just a little context of backstory. So I'd have a
very good friend growing up, pretty much spent all day
junior high and high school, college, spent time together. Then
that person moved away to another state, and we kept
in touch periodically every couple of months, and then as
the decades, you know, years had gone by, it would
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be one phone call, one text message, one phone call
a year, sometimes every two years. And I had just
actually seen this person. They had come back probably about
a year and a half prior, and that was the
last time that I kind of spoke to them. So
I was which normally happens to me. It's that I'll
wake up and I'll lay there and go back to sleep,
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and that's kind of when these things have happened. So
I'm sitting there and I'm having to dream about this person.
And I wake up and I said to myself, I said,
why why am I dreaming about this person? Like I
haven't spoken to them in over a year and a half.
So I got up and I was getting ready to
go to the gym, and I got a phone call
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and it was the spouse of my friend letting me
know that he had passed the night before. And I
was just floored, and you know, obviously I was upset
and everything like that, but to just have it. I
almost wanted to blurt it out to this person and say,
you know, but I was trying not to be inappropriate
because it was devastating news. But yeah, that was the first.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
Do you think he was coming by to say goodbye
to I?
Speaker 2 (15:01):
Guess is what?
Speaker 1 (15:02):
You you know?
Speaker 2 (15:02):
If yeah, the dream wasn't about that, It was just
about nothing. If I remember, he was just there and
a big part of the dream, So yeah, I would
say that's probably it. Freaking out of it, But yeah,
that was That was the first experience.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
That's pretty amazing, And I think it's just another something.
Dev and I often say on this show that when
souls are transitioning, they will visit their friends and loved ones.
It's like a quick little goodbye, almost like how you
might text your brother before you go on a trip.
You know, you might pop into their dream to say goodbye,
I love you. You meant a lot to me, so
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you told me about that, I think on our first date,
or when I.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
Told you trying to show you cool.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
I think it was right when I told you what
I did for a living, you shared that dream as
a way to say, I get it. You know I'm
open to that type of stuff. Yes, as well, and
you would ask me questions about it from time to time.
But then about six months into us dating, you started
telling me that when you would late in bed at
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night trying to fall asleep, will you tell everyone?
Speaker 2 (16:14):
So you had started teaching me about the chakras and
all that. I've always found it odd that when I
closed my eyes and I'm just laying there, and I
guess you would call it meditating trying to go to sleep,
it was almost like I could see the room, like
I could see where. I knew where everything was, but
I saw it what my eyes closed, if that makes sense.
(16:35):
And then once we were together and I fell in
love with you, I was able when I close my
eyes now it's almost like that room has opened up
and it's just vast, and I started just seeing pictures
and as I'm falling asleep, and it was really Sometimes
it was comforting, sometimes it wasn't. And I was still
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relatively conscious while this was happening, so I was saying
to myself, a right, making this stuff up in my
head literally, but yeah, I enjoy it. It helps me relax,
and I don't know what it is.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
It's kind of a magical feeling when you just follow
those images.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
Yeah. Yeah, and that's the thing. I would have to
follow them with my eyes and not it wasn't just
right in front. I would have to follow as it was.
They were kind of transitioning, which I thought.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
Was interesting, and that, to me, is such a sign
of the third eye opening. When you're able to see
those pictures and those colors and get that, it's almost
like you're falling through that dream space.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
Yeah. The colors started probably a few months ago. And
I remember you telling me a while back that I
forgot what color he said.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
Blue, purpling, darkly.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
Yeah, and it just it opened up like right away,
and it was just color, a bunch of colors, a
lot of purples and blues and everything was there and
I was like, Mop, this is pretty cool. But yeah,
that probably started about six months ago, so very very
good sign.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
And if you guys want to increase that, you just
lay in bed on your back and you close your eyes,
and with your eyes closed, you look up into the
center of your forehead. And a lot of people say
it also helps if you can keep your tongue on
the roof of your mouth and then just follow the colors,
and it's a great way to fall asleep and also
primes the subconscious to have more interactive soul travel dreams.
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I want to talk about the chakras real quick, because
I did a chakra clearing balancing on you, and I
know it was helpful to you, but it was so
intriguing to me because I've done chakra balancings and cleansings
on people and friends and clients for twenty years now
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and I love being able to do it, and I
will often if I have my hands on someone's chakra
or over that energy center, I will often see images,
or get an intuitive insight, or hear a song. But
it's usually snippets on maybe three or four of the chakras.
When I did your chakra session, I saw images from
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your life in every single chakra, almost like sometimes it
was like a little movie screen playing out in front
of me, and I could feel your whole team there
and they were trying so hard to show you all
the beautiful things that God had put in your path
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to lead you in different directions. It was one of
the most mystical experiences I personally had because usually when
I'm doing that, I'm in a giving mode, you know
what I mean, Like I'm giving and sharing energy or
holding space for energy. I'm not really a part of it.
It's not about me. But with you, it was like
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I was a part of the significant events in your upbringing.
It was just really, really profound. And my favorite was
your heart chakra because it was just filled with all
these people who have and do love you. That was
just it was just a beautiful thing. It's just a
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good reminder that the practitioner is always learning and growing too,
because I know, well, hold on. I don't recommend that.
I do think when you're doing psychic intuitive energy work
on someone, I think it is key to get yourself
out of the way because we are just a conduit.
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I always tell my students when you're doing any of
this work, you are a straw. The energy is coming
through you, not from you. But I think because we're
so connected, I couldn't get out of the way, so
it'd be interesting to hear from other energy healers who
have done this type of work on their partner. If
it's that same type of connection, that's interesting. Do you
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want to talk about some of your other intuitive dreams?
Speaker 2 (20:55):
Sure? A similar experience lifelong friend, so back to we
would make fun of him, and he was on a
TV show and we just made fun of him consistently
for it to the point where the song was the
theme was his ring tone on my cell phone. So
similar situation. I was at Little Twilight Sleep Night I'll
(21:17):
call it or whatever, and I started I heard the song.
I heard the song, and I woke up. And I
woke up and the first thing I did was I
looked at the phone to see what time it was,
and on my phone was I don't know, maybe thirty
forty missed text messages and missed phone calls from the
night before, and he had passed tragically in the evening.
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So it was starting to feel like the Harbyger of
sorrow because all this bad stuff keeps happening when I
have dreams. And to go back to the emotional part
for me, I feel like I've shut everything down because
it's just freaking me out that everything I think of
is just negative.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
Yeah, I think that's so important, and that's one of
the reasons I wanted us to get to this part
of opening up to your intuition. This is the moment
where you are now where ninety five percent of people
shut it down because it's the negative stuff that is
coming through. But negative is a very relative term. First
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of all, right, Like I would look at those two
dream experiences. They they're negative in the fact that what
followed was learning that two people you loved and cared
for deeply were now on the other side. But they're
positive in that that is such an evidence that love
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goes on. You know that death cannot end that love,
and so I think those are actually positive experiences if
you choose to frame it that way. When I one
hundred years from now it's my turn to cross that
rainbow bridge, my first thoughts are going to be my children, you,
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my sisters. Oh, I hope I have time to think
of other friends that I want. But the fact that
your friend, in that moment of transitioning, you were one
of the people he energetically reached out to, what a gift.
So I think it's a positive thing. But the other
aspect with opening up to your intuition is that negative
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energy is very dense. It's very thick, it's very heavy.
Think about being around a negative person, you feel heavy,
your shoulders kind of slag, You're like, oh, here we
go again. And then think about being around a positive person,
you sit up straight, or your shoulders relax. You feel
lighter than its other because they're so light. So negative
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energy has a density, almost like a physicality to it.
So it's super super easy for beginner intuitives to pick
up on that negative energy. Whereas if you want to
use your intuition to pick up on more positive things,
you have to work really hard to lift and raise
your vibrations and keep them light.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
That's hard.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
That's hard when you're dealing with work and family and
bills to pay and negative crap on the news. You
have to really really work at keeping your energy lifted
on an emotional level, but also on a spiritual level,
because if you really do want to get only positive messages,
which I don't think is necessarily possible, but if you
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want to get more positive, also have to do the spiritual,
energetic work of cleansing your chakras and listening to certain
music and cleaning out and smudging your home like those
types of things as well, which I don't know that
you're all down with that, but that's okay smudging. I
don't love cleaning the air filters because.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
Yeah, but yeah, no, I do appreciate those experiences. I do.
It's just been you know, we just spoke of it
that I just told Samantha about something that I've been
wholly in for you know, a while. It was just
an experience, very vivid, emotional fear thought, yeah, fear thought, Yeah,
I guess, but it just came out of nowhere and
(25:04):
while I was awake, and I just really have been
struggling with it and not even wanting to talk about it,
to not even put it out right in the world. Yeah,
So I can see why, you know, I've been pushing
things away, and it saddens me because I do feel
lighter when I'm open. I mean good news. I did
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have a dream about one of my old sergeants the
other night, and I woke up and I was like,
why what was I dreaming about on him? And I
was like, oh no, did I kill him? But luckily
I have a group chat with all of my former
associates and police officers, and one of them the next
day posted a picture I guess who I saw And
(25:47):
I ran into at some event and it was this
sergeant like, goodies.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
Awif all right, you didn kill him, tell us about
the other dream you had that was kind of negative,
but I had a positive.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
Positive spin outcome. So again I had a dream and
it was an old associated line that I hadn't spoken to.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
In twenty years.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
Yeah, at least at least and he moved out of
New York. People talked to him periodically, but he's not
one that's very you know, social and reaching out to people.
The bottom line is I had a dream that he
was sick, and I woke up the next day and
got on the group chat. One of the main guys
he's like the glue and he's still kind of involved
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and what have you. So I know he talks to
this former officer and I reached out to him and
I said, hey, is so it's okay? I said why
And I told him, I said, well, it's just sound
a little weird. And I told him. He was like, no,
I get it. He goes, yeah, he just found out
that he has cancer and he has to go back
and forth to New York to get treatment. So I
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was like, wow, that's crazy. You had mentioned that I
should reach out to him and just let him know
that he's being cared for and looked after. So I
sent him a text because I didn't really know. I
was like, hey, we're weird here, and.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
Did you say, like, had this dream?
Speaker 2 (27:11):
I did. I mean, I'm just gonna go out and
I haven't spoken to you in thirty years. Don't worry
about it. You have to, like everybody's looking forward to
looking after you. You're gonna be okay. So I sent him
a text and he called me and he was kind
of like, you know, but he called and I said, listen,
I just, you know, want to let you know that
I just it was just odd that I had this thing.
And he said yeah, yeah, you know, yeah, you.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
Know that whole but you never know the ripple effect
that that might have got. Even if he couldn't admit.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
It, you know, he didn't really talk about it that
kind of thing.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
Yeah, it's hard to talk about sure. So I think
it's great that you did that. I think it's brave
that you acted on that, you know, because these are
a bunch of tough guys who don't actually talk about
this stuff. And the first friend you reached out, didn't
he say something like, yeah, I hind dream.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
Yeah, it happens to me. It's happened to me few times. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
I thought that was really really cool that he said that.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
Yeah, and he's you know, you know, military, police department,
all that other stuff. Yeah, thirty years in both of them,
but yeah, it was odd to get him to respond
like that said. Yeah, he goes, it's not weird. I've
had that happen to me too. I was like, okay,
so there you go.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
And then earlier this fall, I thought we had a
really fascinating shared experience. So I had I had woken
up really early one morning and I just had this
feeling that I needed to meditate, and so I did.
And when I was meditating, I like to just kind
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of lay there and see what I need to do,
either just marinate in the silence or maybe do a
chakra clearing or whatever. But it's different each time. And
this time I felt really really strongly that I had
to do a cord cutting meditation, and I thought, well,
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that's interesting. Who do I have to cut chords? With
and so I instantly saw this person who's been putting
a little bit of negative energy towards me and you,
and I was like, oh okay. And so normally you
guys have heard dev and I talk about cord cutting
for years on the show. Usually I will ask to
see where the cord is, what chakra it's in, and
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it's usually like a rope or a cable or a
bungee cord. This time, when I asked to see the cord,
it was not a cord. It was tiny, thin, pliable,
thorny branches that were going through my entire body. They
were all connected at the chakras, but they were everywhere,
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and so I of course called an archangel, Michael and
asked him to help me pull all of these thorny
branches out. And it took a long time. And there's
a part of me that's like, Okay, I'm just going
to go with this image that I'm making up in
my head, and another part of me was like, this
is this feels very real. It felt very this really real.
(30:10):
So I finished that, I go to my yoga class.
I come back and I say, hey, good morning to you,
and you said I had the strangest dream last night.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
Yeah, So I don't usually remember dreams, just that I
had them and kind of what they were about, unless
they were these significant ones that I explained earlier, and
this one I remembered. And when I got up, I said,
I just gotta have to tell Samantha bad because I
gotta get out because if I don't, I may forget
about it. So, knowing nothing of cord cutting or anything
that Samantha just explained, I said to her, I said, yeah,
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I had this really weird dream last night that I
was almost like a magician pulling the ribbons consistently, and
I was pulling a string of thorns out of my
mouth and I just kept coming and coming in. It
was like those almost like dead leaves crumply and they
would just come and just crumble as I was pulling
them out. And I almost wanted to say, what does
that mean? Like I could figure it out, but I
(31:08):
wanted to tell you because I wanted you to know
that I had that dream and to kind of help me,
you know, figure out where that came from.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
And I freaked out because I had gotten up so
early and you had that dream like the same time.
I'm doing this courtesiding meditation you were probably having that day,
and I thought, what are the odd of that?
Speaker 2 (31:30):
Get my head?
Speaker 1 (31:31):
I know, right, no, but I think it was like an.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
Actual I didn't even think of that that it was.
I figured it was that we both had them that night,
but I didn't realize it probably was around the same time.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
Yeah, Wow, isn't that wild? Yeah, and I think it was.
I'd like to think it was our guides being like, hey,
you guys have to get this negative energy that's being
projected towards you out of your system, and here's how
you do it. So I thought that was really interesting
and another example of how that intuitive energy is almost
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like a contesion, as we were saying at the beginning
of the show crazy. So that's just another reminder that
everyone should be doing at least monthly cord cutting meditations,
because you never know who's sending you bad energy. You
just never know. All Right, let's take a very quick break,
and when we come back, we'll talk a little bit
more about how doing into your intuition can really enhance
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your day to day life.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
We'll be right back.
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Speaker 1 (34:07):
Okay, welcome back. So Michael, how do you feel talking
about some of these intuition experiences because I think guys
have a different stigma on them often.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
Yeah, honestly talking to you today makes me feel a
lot better, even before we started with what I was
mentioning for about how I've been kind of pushing things down,
not pushing things down, but freaked out and just I
know that's been a negative and I've been blocking things
not as open as I have been. It makes me confident.
(34:40):
I feel like I don't second guess decisions, which I
never really did in the beginning, but I would put
a lot of thought into things, and I'm being spontaneous.
I'm very confident in the decisions that I make, knowing
that everything I've done up to this point in my
life has led me to this point been doing something right.
(35:01):
And it makes me happy that I have taken everything
that I've experienced in my life and not really questioned it,
learned from it. But yeah, it makes me confident in
relationships that I'm in with people and just the decisions
of the life. The day to day stuff that I make.
Speaker 1 (35:16):
Yeah, it does make it easier when you have that
intuitive knowing. I think it makes it to me. Embracing
my intuition just makes life as a whole so much
more meaningful because I really do feel and sense the
connection between and among everything and everyone, and that just
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makes me see the magic and just a leaf falling
from a tree or does the littlest things. And I
absolutely do love and appreciate that. I understand your fear
and hesitancy one hundred percent because it is hard when
you get information or insight about something frightening that could
(36:02):
possibly be coming up. And I always wonder do we
get those hits because we're supposed to do something to
prevent it, or do we get those hits because time
is not relevant. It's all happening now and those of
us who are a little bit more intuitive can just
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peek into the future. This is how I describe it.
It's like we're all on a highway, okay, and someone
who's completely shut off to their intuition is like in
a little Mini Cooper or a Prius, and someone who's
like kind of open and maybe not they don't know,
they're like in an suv. But people who are fully
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open and turned on and tuned into their intuition, they're
driving a huge semi truck, meaning we can see a
little bit further down the road.
Speaker 2 (36:55):
Does that Yeah, that's a great metaphor. And also to
expand on that, what I was thinking while you were
talking was is me or another reason why we're given
the information or people are given the information is that
we have the ability to handle it, and we have
the ability to be prepared or prepare ourselves for everybody else,
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our children or what have you. And you send my
truck with the big cab in the back, having all
that space to fill with that information. That's the way
I've always looked at anything in my life that did
things happened bad good because I was able to handle
them and somebody felt that I was able to handle them.
Speaker 1 (37:34):
But I also think when we're given that information, whether
it's because we're peeking into the future or because we
may be able to do something to prevent it, which
is really rare. Usually, Yeah, it's just given.
Speaker 2 (37:46):
Me a feeling I've done. I've never thought that.
Speaker 1 (37:49):
But I always am told when I meditate about it
that one of the reasons we get it is because
we can send prayers and blessings to that situation in
advance of it happening, and we can send prayers and
blessings and positive energy to the person that we might
be intuitively thinking about. And I do think that's important,
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but really, really do. I think that helps tremendously. But
I understand why all of that can be a little
bit scary and almost like a burden. You know, I
told you before we were recording last week, I got
a message from a friend's loved one in spirit about
something positive coming up anytime I meditated and he would
(38:34):
come around. I didn't get a specific it was just
a birthday celebration, and I didn't do anything with it
because I know this friend and I know she doesn't
have a birthday coming up. And then I'm scrolling through
social media and what away see her child just had
a birthday, and I was like, damn it, why didn't
I pass that message on? And then this morning, when
(38:54):
I was meditating, I got a not so good message
about someone who might be needing some help coming up
in the next couple of months, And you know, obviously
not going to share that because I think it's really
important that we are good stewards of the intuitive information
that we receive, and if it's negative or it's going
(39:14):
to cause fear or anxiety, I do think we need
to hold it and use that energy and that information
to just send that individual prayer. But that is the
tricky thing about being an intuitive is there's a lot
of morals and ethics that go along with it. And
I wanted to talk about something else that I know
(39:36):
Denise and I have talked about on our podcast En
Latent and Past. I'm not sure that we've talked about
it here, but it's called the mediumship battery, and it's
the idea that medium, psychics, and spiritual workers can draw, exchange,
or amplify energy through their interactions with each other and
with spirit in a way that's reminiscent of a battery
(39:58):
being charged in dist charged for example, in readings. The
medium is considered a conduit of energy, and it's often
described as being almost like an etheric vehicle that acts
like a reserve of energy. I first read about this
in Sylvan Muldoon's book called The Projection of the Astral Body,
and the very first time he was able to spontaneously
(40:20):
astral project his consciousness was when he was staying in
a home that was serving as a boarding house for mediums,
and so he always wondered if he was able to
leave his body that way and walk around the house
in his spirit form because of the energy of all
the mediums in that home and what I've gone to
(40:41):
see other really really well known, fabulous mediums do presentations.
They've often said that they will ask one or two
medium friends to sit in the audience because that energy
serves to give them a little bit of oomph, because
it does take a lot of energy, you know, to
do mediumship in particular, and so anyway that coupled with
(41:05):
your experiences has just made me really start to wonder
if it is a little bit contagious or is it
just energy energy exchanging between people.
Speaker 2 (41:17):
Yeah, that's a good analogy, the energy exchange with the
two people. It would be beneficial for everybody to have
that additional energy, because I think it will feed off
of it and help enhance amplify your.
Speaker 1 (41:28):
Own I wonder if it's like you're so into sports,
you know how they say teams win more often when
they're playing from their home field or court.
Speaker 2 (41:42):
I don't see that with my team so now.
Speaker 1 (41:46):
Or right, maybe not your teams. But it's a thing,
isn't it because their fans are there cheering them on,
and they think that the energy of that kind of
supers the athlete. Andy sure, I mean I wonder if
it's like that with this work as well.
Speaker 2 (42:00):
Maybe they should well a letter and they should start
hiring psychics assitance.
Speaker 1 (42:05):
Then, okay, should I put a call out to our
listeners to pray for the Raiders and.
Speaker 2 (42:09):
The Raiders, the Mets, the Knicks and the Islanders. The Islanders, Yes,
all psychics, please buy tickets ago sit in the front row,
see if you can get on the bedge okay.
Speaker 1 (42:21):
And then lastly, I just want to share this quote
from doctor David Hamilton. It's in an article he wrote
called Three Paths to Intuition. He says, the body of
scientific evidence suggests that we are connected through some level
of our minds. Researchers at Bastia University in Seattle worked
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with emotionally bonded couples. Couples who shared a strong emotional bond.
One was placed inside an MRI scanner while the other
was in a separate room. When the one in the
room was startled with a visual stimulus that MRI picked
up a flash in the visual cortex of the partner
(43:03):
in the scanner. Isn't that that's so fascinating? They could
feel it because they were connected. Similar experiments with EEG
have suggested that the interconnectedness is stronger between people who
share a strong emotional bond, which correlates with a lot
of people's personal experience. Many people feel connected to loved
(43:25):
ones no matter how far apart they are, and would
agree that they get a sense when something is wrong.
This kind of thing is even apparent with animals and
Rupert Sheldrake's book Dogs That Know when their owners are
coming home, he describes experiments where he had sent a
text to a dog owner asking them to right now,
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in that moment, make the decision to leave the office
and head home. And at that instant that they made
their decision, a video camera set up in the home
showed the dog becoming excited and moving to the window.
It's not adorable. And I think all of us who
have for like in family members, we've all experienced that,
(44:06):
oh where the dog or the cat, Well, my cat
doesn't know. She might know, she just doesn't care. But
My dog would always know when I was coming home,
and that was amazing to me. I mean, sometimes my
kids would text it and they would be like, Lily
is pacing in front of the dining room window. Are
you on your way home? And I'd be like, yep,
tell Lily, I'm coming home. So I think all of
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that just shows how it's not so much that intuition
is contagious. It's that energy is contagious, you know. And
we are constantly sharing vast volumes of unseen to us,
invisible information that is passing between our souls, our minds
on this psychic, energetic internet web. And I think it's
(44:53):
really important for us to be aware of that, because
as wondrous as it is to think about sharing positive energy,
just think about the negative energy that so many of
us unwittingly share.
Speaker 2 (45:07):
Well. Yeah, and I was thinking, like everybody probably experiences
those things, negative and positive. But if you're not open
or even aware or even thinking of it or trying
to open yourself up to it, you're just not gonna know,
and it's not even gonna be a thought in your mind,
like you may just want day walk and go. I
(45:28):
just have this heavy feeling about me today, Well, you
just keep going and then it goes away and not
even thinking that it could be something. And then something
may happen a day later that day and you don't
even irrelate that, but you're together because you're not thinking
about it. And I think that's where I see a
difference in myself.
Speaker 1 (45:46):
Well, I love the idea of normalizing intuition for everyone,
especially I just I really do. I've said it before.
I think so many men in particular have this notion
that they can't be intuitive.
Speaker 2 (46:03):
Well, it also is a stigma to be emotional and
opened emotionally, and I think that's what ultimately needs to happen,
whether or not you're you know, psychic or not. But
just be open to everything around you, yeah, you know,
and and all the emotion that's around you, like you said,
just a leaf falling from you know. And I've been
(46:23):
luckily and blessed that I've I love, I see the
joy and the beauty and everything that I do during
the day and hear and see, and it's just an
open to all of that emotion. And you know that
they told you an times that's because of you, and
I do appreciate that. And I always will, but yeah,
(46:44):
just being open to life, yeah yeah, and being open
to emotions. I think everything would be fine. I think
would have a great society.
Speaker 1 (46:55):
I did too. I do think that's changing with the
younger generation, so I do, and I hope I'm right
about that. But I don't see those same type of
projections being put onto. You know, men should be and
women should be feminine in kind. That's breaking down, I
(47:15):
think so, which is a good thing for every reason.
But I do think that one of the good outputs
of that is that more people will feel that it's
okay to be intuitive because something that deb and I
have tried really hard to stress on this show. Being
intuitive isn't like, oh, I'm going to be psychic and
start doing readings. Being intuitive is just being tuned into
(47:39):
all of the unspoken stuff going around you. And if
you're not tuned into that, you're missing ninety percent of
the conversation that's going on in any given women, any
given time, you have to use your intuition to choose
your job, to choose your partner. You should rely on
your intuition to make decisions about what how you're going
to live in or should you take that promotion, or
(48:01):
try for this different job, all of those things. Your
intuition is going to help you with that. But it's
also I think what I love most about it is
it's helped me trust myself and, like you said before,
being more confident in decisions because I know when I
get an off feeling about someone, I know now to
(48:22):
trust that and not to I used to ignore it
and be like, oh, but they're smiling all the time,
and they're saying all these lovely things, And now I
know to just listen to what my intuition is telling me,
and that has been absolutely helpful. And then there's the
daily stuff like the story I told a thousand times
(48:42):
on this show, but it was the first time that
happened to me when I was opening up to my intuition.
I had to go to the DMV and I had
all my stuff, my birth certificate, all of that, and
I kept getting this little message to bring my checkbook,
and I was like, oh, for God's sakes, who doesn't
take a credit card? And so I wait in line.
I remember I had a three hundred and eighty page
(49:03):
book with me. I read the entire book and waited
all day. I get up and she says, Okay, that'll
be such and such dollars. We take cash or check.
And I didn't have cash, and I didn't have a check.
I didn't a check. And I thought, okay, I'm always
going to listen to that. And then you were telling
(49:25):
me you had a daily psychic hit like that the
other day with the grocery store.
Speaker 2 (49:31):
Oh yeah, yeah, you had this.
Speaker 1 (49:33):
Well, i'll just tell it real quickly. You had this
little thing that you loved that the store has once
in a blue moon, and you woke up one morning
and you really wanted that.
Speaker 2 (49:43):
No, I didn't even tell even that I wanted, and
I just knew that they had it. You knew that
they had it going there, and I was going to
go get.
Speaker 1 (49:47):
It today and they had it.
Speaker 2 (49:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (49:49):
See that's just a great thing about the dailiness of
our intuition.
Speaker 2 (49:53):
Yeah, I mean, do you want to sit inside a
closed off, boxed room or do you want to sit
in a field, blue skies and sunlight and yeah everything,
just a.
Speaker 1 (50:03):
Strong, supportive mountain behind you at a beautiful open sea
in front of you. That's a great metaphor image of
what in open through it ie looks like. Well, thank
you so much for coming on the show, and thank
you guys for tuning in. If you've had a psychic
experience that made you think this was contagious, or you
(50:24):
were catching you for someone, or if you've had an
emotional connection like some of the things we've shared, would
love to hear your stories. You can always email us
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help our show. In the meantime, have a great week
filled with your own daily psychic hits. Remember, as always,
to be the light for yourself and others. Thank you
for listening to Psychic Teachers, your podcast for seekers, light workers, mystics,
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