August 10, 2025 • 48 mins
Join us for an intriguing look at the world of mediumship with renowned medium and intuitive teacher Ann Theato. Ann has trained at some of the best psychic institutions in the world such as Tony Stockwell's Soul Space, the world-renowned London College of Psychic Studies and the esteemed The Sir Arthur Conan Doyle Centre.
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Have a great week. Be the Light!
Check out her podcast Psychic Matters. For more information on her upcoming classes and events, go to anntheato.com
Thanks for listening! If you enjoy the show, please tell a friend, subscribe, rate and leave us a kind review. Don't forget to join our community on Facebook by searching Psychic Teachers.
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Signed copies of Samantha’s book Heavenly Alliance and The Awake Dreamer are available at samanthafey.com.
Be sure to check out Samantha’s other podcast Enlightened Empaths.
For more information on us, check out our websites: debbowen.com and samanthafey.com. You can also find Samantha on Instagram @samanthaofey.
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Speaker 1 (00:17):
Hello, and welcome to Psychic Teachers. I'm your host Samittha
Fay and I'm Dan Bowen, and we are so excited
to welcome a brand new guest to the show. Joining
us is award winning writer, host of the Psychic Matters podcast,
and highly regarded psychic medium Anne Teato. She's passionate about
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teaching people how to develop their mediumship abilities and spiritual
gifts and check this out, and has trained some of
the best psychic institutions in the world like Tony Sockwell
Soul Space, the world renowned London College of Psychic Studies
and the esteemed Sir Arthur.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Conan Doyle Center.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
The Spiritual National Union has extensively trained and evaluated Anne
and various areas of expertise, and she proudly holds Certificates
of Recognition in the Art of Evidential Mediumship as well
as a Certificate in Inspired Speaking and Demonstrating Mediumship. Wow,
that's an impressive bio.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Anne, Welcome to the show.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
Thank you so much. I'm really honored to be here
with both of you and with all of your listeners
as well.
Speaker 4 (01:26):
We're delighted to have you with us. We have so
many questions for you, Samantha, you want to get us started.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
Yeah, I just would like to help listeners understand how
you got here.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
So just give us a.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
Little overview of your origin story and how you were
pulled into mediumship.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
Thanks, it's a good question, and you've very kindly read
out a long list of accolades there that I've earned
and worked for. But I'm not a born medium. I've
had to really work at my mediumship. And I think
some people think, oh, I can't do it. If I'm
not born that way, if I'm not born seeing spirit people,
then I can't possibly do it. That's completely wrong. Everybody
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can be a medium, as far as my experience tells
me and my story is, I looking back, was psychic
as a child, but I didn't realize it at the time.
But looking back, when I was in my thirteen or fourteen,
you know, my early teens, I could tell who I
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was going to meet on the way to school. I
knew what football scores would be, et cetera, et cetera.
So that's how I suddenly started to realize I'm slightly
different to other people. Then I did start to progress
into oh, look at that couple at the bus stop.
Oh look, there's Roman soldiers walking down the street. Can
you not see them? And I was quite surprised that
other people couldn't see what I could see, because I
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just took it as a part of my natural makeup.
And so first forward, these little experiences continued on, and
I lived in the real world as a secretary and
an actor and a voice artist, and there I got
into my thirties and I had children. And it's when
I had children that I really started to see spirit people.
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And when that might sound alarming for some people, it
wasn't at all, because I didn't see them in their
whole full glory. I'd see a hand, or i'd see
a leg or a passing shadow out of the corner
of my eye that were catching my attention. In this way,
there was a lot of synchronicities that happened, and all
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kinds of different strange things that were getting my attention
from the spirit world. And because I had children, I
felt I wanted to protect them, so I went and
got some training. That's the story. And then the training
progressed on and on.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
So thank you for sharing that people need to hear
that that you can train and develop it's not a
gift given to a special chosen view, and so I
think it's so important to hear someone with your accolades
and experience. Let listeners know it's a muscle and we
can all learn it. I think it's interesting My mediumship
popped open when my early thirties too, after I became
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a mom. I wonder if there's a connection there, you know,
like the compassion that birthts in your heart when you
have children. I wonder if it's connected to mediumship.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
It's interesting, isn't it. I wonder, Or is it because
the children are so close to the spirit world that
they've just arrived and now we're really aware of the
spirit world's connected to them. Maybe it's that could be anything.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
That's a great point too.
Speaker 5 (04:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (04:31):
I have a question for you about the terminology and
the definition, because a lot of times our listeners don't
understand that there's a difference between psychic ability and mediumship ability.
Can you speak to that for a minute.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
Or so, Yes, of course, I candeb psychic is where
you read the living, and mediumship is where you read
the deceased. That's as simple as that, really. So when
you're working psychically, you sit with a person either on
mostly these days let's face it, or in person, and
you feel in use your energy to feel their energy
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and pick up from their oric field, challenges, obstacles, things
that are going on for them. So that's what we
do with the living person, and that's psychic. But when
you're using your mediumistic faculty, you're doing the same thing,
but you're working with a soul discarnate, a soul in
the spirit world who doesn't have a physical body, so
it's exactly the same. You're feeling into the energy and
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oric field of your spirit communicator instead of the person
sitting in next to you, who is in fact a
spirit communicator also but just has a living human body.
Speaker 4 (05:39):
Good thank you for that. We get that question all
the time, so it's nice to hear you reinforce that.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
Yeah and make it so simple. I like that. So
I have a question for you.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
I obviously trained in America, and I have a very
good friend who did a lot of her mediumship training
in America too, and then she goes off to England
and does the training at Arthur Finley and she came
back and was like, oh my gosh, Samantha, they do
it so differently over in England, and it's so much stricter,
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and I didn't know that, and so I started doing
some research.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
On my own.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
When I do a reading, I.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
Will get a symbol, I'll get a sign, I'll get
a message, and sometimes it'll land and sometimes I have
to explain it right. So slave for example, if I
see my friend Tricia, she's a nurse, I know I
have to say to the person, was your sister named
Tricia or was she in working in the medical field?
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And my friend who did the trading in England said, oh,
you would be kicked off the stage by Spiritualist teachers
for asking those questions. Is that true?
Speaker 6 (06:50):
M Yes, in a manner of speaking. It depends on
the training that you've had. It really depends. But the
training that I've take a very seriously with the Spiritualist
National Union, they really want to stand by the fact
that whatever information we give must be evidential to the recipient.
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We can only give information, we can't give evidence. It
has to be evidential for the person that receives it.
So if they can accept, then it's evidential for them.
But we are trained to make statements and not to
ask questions. And if you do it that way, it
actually strengthens your mediumship because if you ask a question,
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was your sister named Fiona?
Speaker 3 (07:36):
Whatever? Is just the name you just used? Was your
sister named That means you are not quite sure of
your mediumship and what you've actually received. Rather than saying,
your sister is Fiona, and you would understand Fiona is
your sister, wouldn't you, it strengthens the mediumship. And also,
there's no room for doubt in what you're saying. If
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there's a room for doubt, then you need to consider
why you're saying it in the first place, because we're
always looking for the significance. So you might receive the
name Fiona in your mind, you might receive the fact
that it's his sister, but is it their sister named Fiona,
So you could say, I'm receiving the name Fiona. I
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also know that this is to do with a sister.
Then you'd pause, and we're trained to use our cle sentience,
our clear feeling to understand the significance of sister and Fiona.
What does that feel like? Does that feel like this
is definitely they're telling me that Fiona is the sister
of the recipient. Or is Fiona the sister in law,
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or is Fiona the sister of somebody else? We have
to work out who it is and then tell the
recipient who it is. And so there's no room for doubt.
And we're trained to not make what they might call
barnum statements. So we all know the showman bar who
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may have used these type of mind tricks to make
very generalized statements that a lot of people could take,
and therefore it would be some people might think that's amazing,
but it could apply for so many people that so
we must not ever make any barnum statements. We must
clarify and know exactly what we're saying and make very clear,
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use our c licentience and make the statement rather than
because otherwise, and I'm guilty of it. In my mediumship
in the past, you're so grateful sometimes to receive something
and you feel so relieved. You're like, oh, it was
your sister Fiona, and they say yes, You're like, oh,
thank goodness, that's good, and that is good. It is
really good. But it could be better, it could be stronger,
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it could be more clear, and with the spirituous national union.
It's a science, a philosophy and a religion, so they're
trying to make sure that the scientific part is very
strong also, so we have to be very clear with
what we say.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
Yeah, I think that's such a great distinction, and thank
you for pointing out that it's always pushing us to
be better, to do better, to try to really investigate
and not to just lean on.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
When I see this symbol, it means this or this,
but to push yourself. And I think that's such a
great reminder to all of us who've been doing this work,
whether it's one year or ten years or thirty years.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
There's always more to learn. That's what I love about this.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
I know it was always more to learn, and that's
why I find it so fascinating and it's such a
passion as I know it is for you too as well.
Speaker 4 (10:37):
I was in England a while back and went to
a group reading a gallery reading experience in a Spiritualist
church with a young woman who was in training. It
was just basically working to learn from the group that
we were there, and when she got to me, she said,
will you take information from someone? It presents to me
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as an older woman, so she asked permission to do that,
and I said, of course, And it was very clear
within I don't know two sentences that my mom was
there and that was really love. So it was a
great experience and the way it was handled with such
respect and ethics was just lovely. And I know that
a big part of the work that you do has
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to do with teaching and being connected to how important
ethical behavior is in this profession.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
Yeah, it's super super important. And we do ask are
you is it okay for me to work with you?
Because when you're at a gallery reading, somebody might have
been dragged along by their friend, They might not particularly
want to be there, they might feel very uncomfortable, so
we do have to make sure that they're comfortable. Or
maybe you went thinking, oh I do, and then when
you're actually sort of singled out by the medium, you
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might think, oh no, no, I don't want to. So
we have to make sure that everybody's all right and
everybody's comfortable. So, yeah, ethics is a huge part. We
have to behave in such an ethical way and hold
ourselves to such a high standard. And like we've just discussed,
always trying to get better, trying to because we are
the voice for the voiceless the spirit world. We are
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there ambassadors, so we have to do the best that
we can possibly do for them.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
And I recommend any listener listen to your last episode
of your podcast on the Sacred Path of Mediumship, because
you touch upon that in there, really, really well. But
that leads me to a question that has always stayed
in the back of my head years ago when I
was first starting out, before you really understand what's happening
or how to set boundaries with it, I would get
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spirits talking.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
To me frequently.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
And one night I had finally put my kids to
bed early in and I went to one of those
late walk in places to get your nails done. And
I'm sitting there getting my pedicure a long day with
the kids, and I'm very happy to be there, and
there's a young woman next to me, young she was
eighteen nineteen, and I'm here her father talking to me,
and he wanted to thank her for the tattoo on
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her foot. He wanted to tell her that he loves
the boy that she's dating. He had a lot of
things to say, and I'm thinking, how am I going
to do this, because it's not ethical. It's like eight
thirty at night, you know, but this is weird. And
finally I see she ships over in the seat where
she's sitting next to me, and I see all these
stars on her ankle and I said, oh, I like
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your tattoo, and she said, oh, I just got it
in honor of my dad. He passed away last year
and he was in the military. And I'm like, oh,
that's my opening. But I just couldn't do it because
it didn't feel right. And so I went home and
I remember I said to my former husband, I felt
so guilty.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
And he said, God gave you this.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
You need to that man went through so much to
get you to sit in that chair. He said, when
is the last time you got a pedicure? When is
the last time you went out late at night to
get a pedicure? Does that father orchestra did that? And
he said you need to decide who do you serve,
the living or the dead?
Speaker 2 (14:07):
And I just I don't know.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
That always stayed with me and I just would love
to hear what you think about that, because ethically, I
don't think that we should just say hello, you'r a
diseased father is with you?
Speaker 3 (14:19):
Yeah, I don't think we should either no matter what
the circumstance is, unless invited to do so by the recipient.
That's the stand I would always take on that It's
a difficult one because I understand your dilemma. However, I
would always say to the spirit person, if there is
a message and you want to get through to your daughter,
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then find a way that is ethically correct to do that. Well,
they will know that anyway of the spirit world. Maybe
it was more for you to ask that question about
yourself and where you stand ethically. Maybe that just came
up for you, or you could query was he really
with you or were you picking that up psych from
her Auric Field, I felt it was him strongly what
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I do now.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
I was in a airport a couple of months ago,
and that I felt a woman's husband, and instead of
telling her that, I just took everything he said and
I worked it into the conversation because his big message
was he was very happy for some paper she had
gotten published and he wanted her to frame it. And
so I asked her what she did for a living,
and she told me she was a hospice nurse, and
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I was like, well, how would she have a published paper?
And so I asked her another question, and she had
just started working with some cardiologists and had a paper published,
and I said, you know, you should really get that framed.
Your kids would love to see that. And she was like,
you know, I was thinking about that, but it felt
too egoistical. So that's how I kind of handle it now,
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is instead of saying, your deceased husband is here, I
try to just work it into the conversation.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
Yeah, I think it's I think that's good. I think
it can be quite alarming to go up to somebody
and gave them information that is unwarranted. People have done
it to me before, and it's made me feel and
I'm a medium, it's made me feel really uncomfortable. I'm
not in the space to receive information from the spirit world.
I don't want to know. I don't trust them, I
don't know who they are, I don't know whether the
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information is incorrect or correct. I don't know whether my
loved ones are there or are not there. And I
don't want that kind of information till I'm ready to
receive it. So I think we just have to be
very very careful. I mean, if you are a doctor,
you don't run up to somebody on the pavement saying,
you've got a rash on your face. I really have
to tell you you've got to go and get treatment
and get some antibiotics, because that would go against a
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Geneva convention. You wouldn't go and do that, So why
would you do it as a medium, go and start
shouting to people that you can see the spirit world
all Because we have to be careful. Now, I'm not
saying that this is what you'll you've experienced, Samantha, but
we have to be careful of our ego because when
we've got this gift, it does make us feel sometimes
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a little bit special, and it is really exciting, and
we do become very passionate about it, and we do
want to tell people. But I've found in my experience
it's better not to go up to people and say
things that they don't want to hear. That's what I
would say.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
I agree, No, I one hundred percent agree. It's just
always going to to beat in my head. If we're
a kind of it between both sides, then where's that loyalty?
So I think it's important to just consider interesting though.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
Let's go to that point though, because the loyalty is
your loyalty with the human being or with the spirit world.
It's interesting, isn't I haven't really thought about it in
that way. I suppose, of course our loyalty is with spirit.
It has to be with the spirit world, because we're
their ambassador and we're their voice. But just because we
are aware of their presence doesn't mean that they want
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us necessarily to tell somebody something. Sometimes it might be
highly appropriate, So I think each case we have to
I think we have to be careful. I think from
my point of view for those listening, I would say,
please don't go up to people on the street and
run and tell them information. Please don't do that. However,
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I think there are cases where it is appropriate.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
Yeah, it's tricky.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
It's tricky.
Speaker 4 (18:21):
It is tricky. How do you say the profession of
mediumship evolving and changing as it becomes such a thing.
You know, we've moved into this world where lads of
folks and media practicing mediumships.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
What do you think's carefully Hmmm, What.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
A delicious, juicy question there is for me. I think
the world is changing very much. We're becoming there's a
lot of children coming in the Indigo children and the
Rainbow Children. There's a lot of consciousness investigation and research
and science now taking place which has its unprecedented It's
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not been like that for well since last two thousand years,
I suppose, and I find that really exciting. So we
are as a society wanting to investigate this. Have you
listened to the Telepathy Tapes? Absolutely fantastic podcast. Now for
those who don't know, please go listen to the Telepathy Tapes.
I came across it a couple of months ago, and
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it's about children who are nonverbal, who are able to communicate,
and some of them don't even realize that they autistic
children don't realize that they have a physical body because
they are pure consciousness, and so they're speaking to each
other without as we do with mediumship, without the need
for a language, which curtails us in a way, and
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they find us as speaking people the odd ones out,
not the other way around. Anyway. Telepathy Tapes is really
really good. So that's all about consciousness and research and science,
and the Arthur Finny College have got Arthur's vision, which
is all about pushing forward the science of this mediumship,
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and the psychic faculty which I'm all for and for
me find it fascinating to think about pathetic telepathy where
you've got the US military are doing investigations into implants
in the mind that can read our thoughts. So if
you have soldiers in a place whereby they're not able
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to speak because it's too loud, because it's too much
fighting going on, or they need to be rescued from
where they are, they just have to think a thought
and they will know the helicopter or whatever the rescue
people will know how to pick them up. They're synthetic telepathy.
We're in the medical field where people are able to
make an implant into your mind and you're able to
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move your false limb up and down, your hands around,
and that's just the beginning of those kind of things.
So but if they are usedturre telepathy, they could, I'm
sure run a lot faster. And I think with my
past life regression that I've trained past life with and
all of these things, I think if we can match
that up and marry that up with our mediumship and
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artificial intelligence, how incredible would it be to have a
virtual reality experience whereby you can see a physical picture
of your loved one, but also have the mediumship coming
alongside it, so that the whole thing becomes this experiential
reading rather than Oh, here's your mom. She says this,
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you can feel your mom. You can know your mom
so much more so. I think there's loads to come
for mediumship. I'm excited about it.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
Wow, that gives me chills.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
I've never heard that take on where a mediumship is going.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
I'm picturing like putting on like the.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
Oculus VR goggles and like seeing my dad and then
the medium is helping me talk to him. That's I
love that and very very hopeful.
Speaker 3 (21:53):
Well, this is why I can't sleep at night. My
mind goes onto all of these things.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
I want to talk about some of your favorite readings
in your work with Tony starkwell, but we're going to
take a very quick break and we'll be right there.
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Speaker 2 (23:22):
Welcome back.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
I can you talk to us about some of your
favorite reading experiences without bringing any confidentiality of course, But
is there like a validation you brought through where you
were like, oh my gosh, well.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
I don't know. It's quite often I don't remember on earth.
I've just said, because the information is not of me
or of any medium, it passes through us. We are
the channel through which it passes. Actually, sometimes it's quite
hard to remember and retain. So the things I do
remember are my earlier experiences that I had when I
first started out with mediumship. I remember there was a girl.
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There's two that I can recall, but this was a
long time ago, and both of which actually happened at
Tony' Stockwell studio when I was first training with him.
And one was a young girl in spirit I was
working with and I knew that she was in a
hospital bed in Great Ormond Street Hospital. It's a children's
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hospital in London. And she gives me the name Clarence,
and I know that I'm friendly with a girl in
the next bed, and a lady put her hand up
and it was the friend of the mother whose girl
was in the next bed. So it was so there
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was the spirit communicated, you understand. And then there was
a friend in the audience, but she knew the mother
of the girl that was in the next bed. So
this lovely girl from the spirit world was telling me
that she was on Clarence Ward and that her mother
and her had traveled by train an awful lot. There
was a lot of train journeys to get long long
train journey to get to Great Ormond Street hospital. Now,
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the woman in the audience didn't know, but she verified
it afterwards that yes, she found out there were a
lot of trained journeys involved. And the last thing that
I said to this woman was that this little girl
gives her mother a beaded bracelet round her wrist, and
she's giving her this beaded bracelet. And of course the
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lady in the audience didn't know what that meant, but
she said, okay, I'll let the mother know. And of
course I always say only if you feel it's appropriate,
because again, it's not appropriate to just go and say, oh,
so and so came through in this mediumship thing if
they're not ready to receive. But she was. And it
turned out that the last thing that this little girl
had given to her mother before she passed away was
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a home made beaded bracelet that she made in this
bed in Clarence Ward in Great Ormond Street. Wow, if
I know, isn't that just amazing? So that affirmed to
me that not only could I see the little girl
and the little girl, but that information was correct. If
only my mediumship could be as accurate all the time,
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that would be great, wouldn't it. But that was a
particularly interesting, fascinating reading that came through and I loved that.
That was really good. And then the second one was
I was demonstrating mediumship to an audience. I think it
must have been on the demonstrating mediumship course with Tony,
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and I said, I've got a gentleman here. Now, I
was looking out at a very white, middle class audience
and of UK people out there in the middle of
Billericki in England, and I said, I've got a gentleman
here who's dressed head to foot in skins, rabbit skins,
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skins of foxes, things like this. He's very very tall,
he's dragging a sled behind him, and he's walking across
the waste of I think it was Greenland or Icelander
caut remember, let's say Greenland. He's and here he comes
walking and he's calling to you across the ice. And
I looked out and I said, does anybody understand this gentleman?
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I gave the age in a few more details, and
I just thought, I'm going bonkers. No one's going to
take this man dressed in skins in Greenland, dragging a sled.
And somebody did They put their hand up. This is
my uncle. And I said, Uncle, this is my uncle.
He lived in Greenland. He hunted seals, that's what it was.
He was seal skins. He hunted seals and he lived
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in Greenland. And I said, he calls to you across
the ice with this low sort of call. It's like
like that, very very long, and I said, and through that,
I was thinking, why is he giving me this call?
And I said, oh, he tells me. You use your
voice in this way. It's like a long held note.
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She said, yes, I'm an opera singer. It was amazing. Wow,
I know.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
And that shows so much trust on you're a part well,
because sometimes we do see things and we're like, there's
no way this is going to land with anyone, and
then you have to surrender interest because like you said,
it comes through us that frantz.
Speaker 4 (28:16):
I love that story and it's like playing charade sometimes.
Speaker 3 (28:20):
Yeah, it is dead, it really is. And that surrendering trust,
Samantha is absolutely correct because so many times, look, there's
two great examples. Okay, oh shiny old me, aren't I great?
But how many times have I given other messages and
it's fallen flat and nobody's taken it but I always
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like to stretch my mediumship and never just go for
the grandma, the grandpa, the mom and the dad. I
like to see who's who is got the greatest need
there from the spirit world. And through being adventurous, through
being curious, you can be brave and bring through much
more evidential things eventually. But you have to be prepared
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to fail, and fail often and fail hard, and that's okay.
Speaker 1 (29:10):
Yeah, people need to hear that, they really do, because
we're not used to.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
There's something different about mediumship and psychic work too. It's
so vulnerable. Yeah, especially when you're doing platform readings and
you're on stage and everyone's staring at you, and if
you drop the ball, you're not only dropping the ball
for all the people who came and paid and are
waiting to hear from their loved ones. You're dropping the
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ball and the spirit all those people who have lined
up and a lot of pressure. I don't think people
really understand that, And so when we give ourselves permission
to fail sometimes it's like a pressure valve.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
It releases some of that which is important.
Speaker 3 (29:51):
So yeah, for sharing that, I think because we're so
frightened of getting a know. I know, I was very
frightened of getting a no, thinking oh, because when someone
says no, oh, we think it means I've failed, I've
got it wrong, I'm useless. That's the message that comes
back to our brain. But actually I've written a podcast
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episode about it, and it's called why Saying no Why
or getting no?
Speaker 4 (30:16):
Why?
Speaker 3 (30:16):
It's so right and the no is the signpost to
where you're meant to be. So we go back to
that example of was your sister named Fiona or your
sister was named Fiona, wasn't she No? Then you say, okay,
well that's interesting. You say no because I feel this
spirit communicator is telling me that Fiona was your sister.
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Let me try to unfold that for you. Let me
try to see why I've got that and why I
haven't got it quite rightful. I'll help you unfold it.
When you're like that and you become more curious about
that rather saying okay, let's just forget that, then let's
move to something else. That's where you come out of
your power completely. You have to stay in the power
of your soul, the power of the spirit communicator, work
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with them. Don't take any notice of the recipient. Recipient
sometimes forgets the recipient sometimes doesn't remember names. I've done
that before when I've been receiving a message. I've said, no,
I don't know anyone called Paul, and then I'm like,
oh my gosh, my brother is called Paul, that he's
in this bear aut world. Silly me, How did I forget?
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It happens?
Speaker 2 (31:21):
It does. What do they call it? Psychic amnesia?
Speaker 3 (31:23):
They yeah, yeah, that's right.
Speaker 4 (31:26):
Tell us about your work at the London College of
Psychic Studies.
Speaker 3 (31:30):
Yeah, that's interesting, isn't it. It ties into Tony Stockwell
a little bit actually, so I'll tell you about Tony
in a minute. But I work as a tutor for
the College of Psychic Studies and it's such an honor
to work there. It's such a beautiful building. It's down
a side street in Kensington, opposite the Natural History Museum.
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So if anybody listening is ever in London, I think
it's opened a couple of days a week for passers
by to call in. It's got them the most beautiful
library in there that you could sit with these wing
backed armchairs, and it's so peaceful and silent compared to
Knight's bridge outside, which is so busy, and it's got
such a beautiful feeling every room. You can feel the
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energy in the space. It's absolutely brilliant. They've got an
array of fantastic teachers teaching all kinds of topics of psychic, mediumship,
past life, all kinds of different things they teach there,
and I'm honored to be a teacher there. I'd teach
remote viewing, and I'd teach psychic classes, and I'd teach
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mediumship classes and all kinds of differ things online and
in person.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
Yeah, I love it.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
We have such lovely, thoughtful listeners and whatever our listeners
knows of my desire to go to England, debas Ben,
I have not. And she went to the College of
Psychic Studies and she mailed me the catalog. It was
thick and beautiful and I wanted to dig every single
class in that catalog, and then I started He's searching
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at going on the website and it's a great resource
and I'm so happy that there are online classes all right,
But now we have to get to how you met Tony.
Speaker 3 (33:08):
Yeah, bless Tony. He's so lovely. So a long time ago,
when I had my children, I started seeing spirit people,
as I've already said, and it was a little bit disconcerting.
But I was a single parent and I had absolutely
no money and no family and no friends in London.
I mean I had lots of friends, but no one
available to come and sit with my children. So I
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somehow managed to get to the pub one evening and
have a drink with a friend just up the road.
Somebody looked after my children for a couple of hours,
so we went out. We had a drink and a
man came up to me and he said to me,
out of the blue, you are a medium. And I
said to him, what do you mean, what are you
talking about? And he said, I can tell that you
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are a medium. You must go and study with Tony
Stockwell do you know who that is? And I said no,
I have no idea. He said, look him up, go
study with him. He said, I have to go now,
but promise me you'll do it. I said, okay, I will,
and he disappeared. He was like one of those earth
angels that just arrive in your life for some reason
and then just disappear. So it was very strange. I mean,
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men usually in a bar in my past experience have
wanted to buy me a drink and get to know
me a little. But it was a little different. So
I looked up Tony Stockwell. At the time, Tony had
many many television programs. He's on YouTube, anybody wants to
look at him up. He had sixth cents that he
was working with Colin Frye. He was on at the
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London Palladium for such a well known psychic and medium.
So I thought, well, I'll go and get a reading
with Tony Stockwell and if he tells me I'm a medium,
then I'll believe him. So I tried to get a reading,
but he had a six month waiting list, so I thought,
oh my gosh, that's not going to work. And then
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I saw that the College of Psychic Studies was having
an open day. So I went to the open day
and I had a lovely time looking around the college
and seeing what it was all about. And there was
a raffle at the end of the afternoon, and this
lady was rattling this collection tin buy some raffle tickets,
and I was thinking, no, I've got to buy bread
and butter for my children. I got to buy raffle tickets.
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So she was like, please buy raffle tickets, raffle tickets
and raffle ticket and I said no twice, and then
the third time I felt so embarrassed at being so British.
I thought, oh, I better buy some raffle tickets and
this lovely lady. So I did play my little pound
for my raffle tickets. And several of the raffle prizes
had been given out to various people, and there were
three prizes left, and I went up to get my
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prize and it was a private reading with Tony Stockwell.
Speaker 5 (35:46):
Om on.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
Fantastic.
Speaker 3 (35:50):
Yeah, So I went and I had this private reading
with Tony Stockwell, and it was fabulous. He gave me
a fantastic reading. I didn't actually know anybody who had
died at that so a lot of his psychic guidance.
But nonetheless he said to me, I see you in
this place. I see you in this college. He said,
I don't know if it's now or in a few
years time, but I very much see you being part
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and parcel of this college. And now I am actually
a teacher at that college. And I went on to
study with Tony. When I found another friend and a
little bit more, and I went and I studied with
him in his space in Wickford, and then he moved
to Billericki, but I studied a lot with him, and
he noted that I was taking notes. I'm a real
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note taker because I've got such a bad memory. I
can't remember anything, so I have to write it all down.
And he said, oh, we're very good at taking notes.
Can you just make a note of this for me
to remember to tell everybody about this and that and
blah blah blah. And in the end it became such
a frequent thing that he asked me to be his assistant.
So I started to work for him as his assistant,
and I've worked for him now for I don't know,
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twelve years something like that. I helped him a lot
with his online classes, not teaching, of course, you understand
that's Tony's thing, but I was helping him with the
administration and the behind the scene and talking to his
students and getting them the information that they needed. Yeah,
so that's my story with Tony. And now he's asked
me to teach with him. We teach occasionally together, and
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he's asked me to teach a program with him, which
is sold out. I'm afraid everybody. But it's an in
person in crew in Cheshire in England in November. And
also we are doing a class called the Virtual Medium,
The Virtual Medium. It's a three hour master class how mediumship.
We talked earlier, didn't we about how mediumship is changing?
And this class is particularly for those who are working
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in the digital space because mediumship digitally is very different
to mediumship in an in person gallery style, and so
Tony and I are doing a master class for that,
and possibly we're going to turn that into a mentorship program.
I think that's probably got legs for twenty twenty six.
So Baduka the master class to start with.
Speaker 2 (37:58):
Oh yeah, I definitely want to do that.
Speaker 4 (38:00):
Which reminds me of one other thing along the way
of new adventures and so forth. Your website is just
so kind with such lovely free material on it. What
a gift you're doing. Thank you for there.
Speaker 3 (38:15):
Thank you so much. That's really kind of you to say.
The website, it's got all my podcasts on it. If
that's what you're referring to, you can sign up to
my newsletter. There's free meditations, there's free I've got a
lovely one week. I've called it psychic recipes or something
like that. I can't remember exactly what I called it,
but beautiful recipe to have breakfast every day. It comes
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with a mantra and an affirmation. It's just sort of
tuning into your day. So yeah, I've got all kinds
of different things like that on it. My website is
Antaoto dot com A N N T H E A
t O dot com, but lots of stuff on there.
Just go and have a look, have a browse.
Speaker 5 (38:52):
I want people to know.
Speaker 1 (38:53):
About your free Mediumship Hour every month.
Speaker 3 (38:56):
Yeah, it's every week, actually, I mean week every that's right, Wednesday, Yeah,
every single Tuesday throughout the year, without fail. There is
a free event called the Mediumship Hour, and it takes
place at seven pm to eight pm UK time zone,
and I take the first half hour, and I have
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an expert medium from across the globe to take the
second half hour. So it's a really hopefully high standard
of mediumship. And it's for people to come and see
different mediums working because it is really interesting to see
how other mediums get their information. And if you're somebody
who's grieving or you know, you're interested to see how
mediumship works. It's a good place to go to see
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well how UK mediums might work sometimes. But I do
work with a lot of American mediums as well who
come on, and mediums from Denmark and Germany and all
over the world.
Speaker 1 (39:53):
So yeah, then you also teach a lot about remote
viewing and scrying, and so I would love people to
hear your views on psychic tools. So, for example, Deban,
I think it's important to explore all the different psychic tools,
whereas we've heard from other mediums who say, no, no,
you should rely on nothing but your connection to spirit,
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and I just would like to hear your take on that.
Speaker 3 (40:18):
Oh I love a psychic tool, I do. I love
them well. I think the thing is where the Spirituous
National Union would stand on psychic tools is yes, use
your psychic tool, definitely enjoy there's lots to be said
for them. They're fantastic. But when you're working as a
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medium in one of the Spirituous National Union churches, they
ask you not to use psychic tools. And the reason
is they don't want to confuse the general public so
that the public think you need something to contact the
spirit world, because you don't. You just need your own
energy and your own connection to connect to spirit. You
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don't need any psychic tool. That's why they don't allow
that on their platforms in the churches. And I think
there's a lot to be said for that, But there
are other ways to work also and using a psychic
tool for reading psychically, which again let's remind ourselves as
reading the living is a great but you can also
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use tools to connect to spirit, and they used to
years ago use flowers or fruits and all kinds of
different things to connect to the spirit world. I think
the SAU spirit is national union. They have to be
very careful and they have to be very clear this
is what we do in our churches. But they're not
saying you cannot do it, So that's the no.
Speaker 1 (41:43):
I think that's an important distinction because I would be
weirded out if a medium I don't know pulled out
a crystal ball.
Speaker 2 (41:50):
Or to road cars while she was talking to my father.
Speaker 1 (41:53):
I think there needs to be that delineation. But I
love to explore psychic tools for my own development. It's
like going to the gym for me, you know, It's
like strengthening that muscle.
Speaker 3 (42:06):
Yeah, totally, And I do a lot of classes as well.
I'm teaching at the College's Psychic Studies actually, but doing
psychic essentials. So we'll be using scrying tools, bowls of water, hagstones,
tarot cards, all kinds of different things, mirrors, and I
get people to read things on their desk, like a
pen or a pencil or a bit a crumpled up paper.
Speaker 1 (42:26):
I have a question. It's so funny, isn't it. Dev
We've gotten like three emails from listeners this month on hagstones,
so we've answered those questions. And I've heard that you
can like look through the whole of a hagstone and
see into the fairy realm. But I have never heard
of a hagstone as a psychic tool. Can you enlighten us?
Speaker 3 (42:47):
Yeah? A hagstone is so great. So for people that
don't know what hagstone is, it's a stone that you
can pick up on a beach or an estuary and
it has had over the years, some little parasitic worm
that's gone into that stone and eaten away a little
hole and the water washes in and it becomes a
hole with a stone in it. That's the gist of
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what it is. And you can pick it up and
you can look through it and you can see. But
what you're really looking through with all psychic tools is
you're using it as a springboard into your intuition. So
you're connecting with that stone, you're connecting with the energy
it contains, using your energy, and you're looking through the
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hole within that stone to look for images symbols. Movement
is a bit like looking through a crystal ball, where
an image starts to form, and it might be a
solid image to start with, and it might then start
to move like a movie. And if you start to
look at it as if you're watching a movie and
become curious about what happens, the movie starts to play out.
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You start to watch what goes on, and then you
can move your awareness into the hagstone or into the
crystal ball. You're standing in it and the things that
are happening all around you, So you're in the movie yourself,
and that's where you pick up all your information.
Speaker 1 (44:08):
So fascinating. The hole in the hagstone is the point
of focus to allow your conscious to relax or you
can connect with greater things. That's really cool.
Speaker 3 (44:18):
I love that.
Speaker 4 (44:19):
And Dawn in the room I'm sitting here, there is
a cord of nine hagstones.
Speaker 3 (44:26):
Oh, how brilliant. Where did you get all of those from?
But I live on an island, perfect, so you're collecting them? Yeah,
if ever I go to a beach, I collect a
whole load, so that if I go to a class
I can take them with me in my suitcase and
people can have a go themselves. But yeah, brilliant. I'm
all for a psychic tool though.
Speaker 1 (44:45):
Good, okay, good, I'm glad to hear that because I
agree with you. I think the mediumship should be secret.
I understand that, but I think it's just I don't
mean to be disrespectful to.
Speaker 2 (44:55):
These psychic tools.
Speaker 3 (44:55):
But it's so fun. It's fun.
Speaker 1 (44:58):
Yeah, I enjoy Like I just something I didn't know.
You could use hagstones like a crystal ball.
Speaker 2 (45:03):
I'm still learning runs.
Speaker 1 (45:05):
Dub and I have never really mastered eating, but we
like studying it. Like it's all just fun.
Speaker 3 (45:10):
Yeah, exactly. And you can connect to the spirit world
by using a tool as well. So you could draw
a tarot card to move into the energy of the
queen or the king or whoever it is that is
in the tap presenting in the tarot card, or you
could use a beautiful flower to first of all psychically
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tune into your recipient and then use the flower and
the fragrance of the essence and the energy to move
into Do you know what I am now beginning to
become aware of the softness of a lady who joins
me from the spirit world. And I believe this lady
to be on mother. And as I stand it with
this flower in my hand, and I hold these two
leaves that are presenting on the left hand side, I
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know that she had two children. And as I see
there is a leaf that has dropped away on the right,
I know she has lost a child. Can work in
this way, and that's just as beautiful, And I feel
also needs experimentation so that we don't become using our
we don't use our mediumship in such a small and tiny,
confined way.
Speaker 4 (46:14):
Yeah, lovely, that's just lovely.
Speaker 2 (46:17):
Well, and we have so enjoyed this.
Speaker 1 (46:19):
I'm looking at my list of questions I had just
typed up, and I haven't gotten too half of them.
So I really would love to have you back on.
Maybe I was going to say when your schedule eases up,
but that's not happening, is.
Speaker 3 (46:32):
It, Well, I don't know. I'll always make time for
talking about mediumship or the psychic world or the you know,
the pushing forward the boundaries of consciousness because it's my passion.
So yes, of course I'll come back.
Speaker 4 (46:44):
Thank you, love.
Speaker 2 (46:45):
We would love that, Yeah, we really really would.
Speaker 1 (46:48):
This was super fun and educational and informative. I can't
wait to share it with everyone. We'll put it in
the show notes people, but please know you can go
to a n n th Ea t o dot to
access her website and find out more about her free
Tuesday hours and all her other great resources. Don't forget
to check out her podcast, Psychic Matters, available Apple, Spotify,
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pretty much everywhere, right, yeah.
Speaker 3 (47:14):
Pretty much everywhere. And for your listeners, you're coming on
my podcast too, so I'm really looking forward to very
excited for that.
Speaker 2 (47:21):
Yeah, thank you so much. Thank you guys for listening.
Speaker 1 (47:24):
Please remember, as always to be the light for yourself
and others.
Speaker 4 (47:29):
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Thanks for listening and have a great week.
Hello, and welcome to Psychic Teachers. I'm your host Samittha
Fay and I'm Dan Bowen, and we are so excited
to welcome a brand new guest to the show. Joining
us is award winning writer, host of the Psychic Matters podcast,
and highly regarded psychic medium Anne Teato. She's passionate about
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teaching people how to develop their mediumship abilities and spiritual
gifts and check this out, and has trained some of
the best psychic institutions in the world like Tony Sockwell
Soul Space, the world renowned London College of Psychic Studies
and the esteemed Sir Arthur.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Conan Doyle Center.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
The Spiritual National Union has extensively trained and evaluated Anne
and various areas of expertise, and she proudly holds Certificates
of Recognition in the Art of Evidential Mediumship as well
as a Certificate in Inspired Speaking and Demonstrating Mediumship. Wow,
that's an impressive bio.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Anne, Welcome to the show.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
Thank you so much. I'm really honored to be here
with both of you and with all of your listeners
as well.
Speaker 4 (01:26):
We're delighted to have you with us. We have so
many questions for you, Samantha, you want to get us started.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
Yeah, I just would like to help listeners understand how
you got here.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
So just give us a.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
Little overview of your origin story and how you were
pulled into mediumship.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
Thanks, it's a good question, and you've very kindly read
out a long list of accolades there that I've earned
and worked for. But I'm not a born medium. I've
had to really work at my mediumship. And I think
some people think, oh, I can't do it. If I'm
not born that way, if I'm not born seeing spirit people,
then I can't possibly do it. That's completely wrong. Everybody
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can be a medium, as far as my experience tells
me and my story is, I looking back, was psychic
as a child, but I didn't realize it at the time.
But looking back, when I was in my thirteen or fourteen,
you know, my early teens, I could tell who I
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was going to meet on the way to school. I
knew what football scores would be, et cetera, et cetera.
So that's how I suddenly started to realize I'm slightly
different to other people. Then I did start to progress
into oh, look at that couple at the bus stop.
Oh look, there's Roman soldiers walking down the street. Can
you not see them? And I was quite surprised that
other people couldn't see what I could see, because I
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just took it as a part of my natural makeup.
And so first forward, these little experiences continued on, and
I lived in the real world as a secretary and
an actor and a voice artist, and there I got
into my thirties and I had children. And it's when
I had children that I really started to see spirit people.
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And when that might sound alarming for some people, it
wasn't at all, because I didn't see them in their
whole full glory. I'd see a hand, or i'd see
a leg or a passing shadow out of the corner
of my eye that were catching my attention. In this way,
there was a lot of synchronicities that happened, and all
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kinds of different strange things that were getting my attention
from the spirit world. And because I had children, I
felt I wanted to protect them, so I went and
got some training. That's the story. And then the training
progressed on and on.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
So thank you for sharing that people need to hear
that that you can train and develop it's not a
gift given to a special chosen view, and so I
think it's so important to hear someone with your accolades
and experience. Let listeners know it's a muscle and we
can all learn it. I think it's interesting My mediumship
popped open when my early thirties too, after I became
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a mom. I wonder if there's a connection there, you know,
like the compassion that birthts in your heart when you
have children. I wonder if it's connected to mediumship.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
It's interesting, isn't it. I wonder, Or is it because
the children are so close to the spirit world that
they've just arrived and now we're really aware of the
spirit world's connected to them. Maybe it's that could be anything.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
That's a great point too.
Speaker 5 (04:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (04:31):
I have a question for you about the terminology and
the definition, because a lot of times our listeners don't
understand that there's a difference between psychic ability and mediumship ability.
Can you speak to that for a minute.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
Or so, Yes, of course, I candeb psychic is where
you read the living, and mediumship is where you read
the deceased. That's as simple as that, really. So when
you're working psychically, you sit with a person either on
mostly these days let's face it, or in person, and
you feel in use your energy to feel their energy
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and pick up from their oric field, challenges, obstacles, things
that are going on for them. So that's what we
do with the living person, and that's psychic. But when
you're using your mediumistic faculty, you're doing the same thing,
but you're working with a soul discarnate, a soul in
the spirit world who doesn't have a physical body, so
it's exactly the same. You're feeling into the energy and
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oric field of your spirit communicator instead of the person
sitting in next to you, who is in fact a
spirit communicator also but just has a living human body.
Speaker 4 (05:39):
Good thank you for that. We get that question all
the time, so it's nice to hear you reinforce that.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
Yeah and make it so simple. I like that. So
I have a question for you.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
I obviously trained in America, and I have a very
good friend who did a lot of her mediumship training
in America too, and then she goes off to England
and does the training at Arthur Finley and she came
back and was like, oh my gosh, Samantha, they do
it so differently over in England, and it's so much stricter,
(06:11):
and I didn't know that, and so I started doing
some research.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
On my own.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
When I do a reading, I.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
Will get a symbol, I'll get a sign, I'll get
a message, and sometimes it'll land and sometimes I have
to explain it right. So slave for example, if I
see my friend Tricia, she's a nurse, I know I
have to say to the person, was your sister named
Tricia or was she in working in the medical field?
(06:39):
And my friend who did the trading in England said, oh,
you would be kicked off the stage by Spiritualist teachers
for asking those questions. Is that true?
Speaker 6 (06:50):
M Yes, in a manner of speaking. It depends on
the training that you've had. It really depends. But the
training that I've take a very seriously with the Spiritualist
National Union, they really want to stand by the fact
that whatever information we give must be evidential to the recipient.
(07:12):
We can only give information, we can't give evidence. It
has to be evidential for the person that receives it.
So if they can accept, then it's evidential for them.
But we are trained to make statements and not to
ask questions. And if you do it that way, it
actually strengthens your mediumship because if you ask a question,
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was your sister named Fiona?
Speaker 3 (07:36):
Whatever? Is just the name you just used? Was your
sister named That means you are not quite sure of
your mediumship and what you've actually received. Rather than saying,
your sister is Fiona, and you would understand Fiona is
your sister, wouldn't you, it strengthens the mediumship. And also,
there's no room for doubt in what you're saying. If
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there's a room for doubt, then you need to consider
why you're saying it in the first place, because we're
always looking for the significance. So you might receive the
name Fiona in your mind, you might receive the fact
that it's his sister, but is it their sister named Fiona,
So you could say, I'm receiving the name Fiona. I
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also know that this is to do with a sister.
Then you'd pause, and we're trained to use our cle sentience,
our clear feeling to understand the significance of sister and Fiona.
What does that feel like? Does that feel like this
is definitely they're telling me that Fiona is the sister
of the recipient. Or is Fiona the sister in law,
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or is Fiona the sister of somebody else? We have
to work out who it is and then tell the
recipient who it is. And so there's no room for doubt.
And we're trained to not make what they might call
barnum statements. So we all know the showman bar who
(09:01):
may have used these type of mind tricks to make
very generalized statements that a lot of people could take,
and therefore it would be some people might think that's amazing,
but it could apply for so many people that so
we must not ever make any barnum statements. We must
clarify and know exactly what we're saying and make very clear,
(09:24):
use our c licentience and make the statement rather than
because otherwise, and I'm guilty of it. In my mediumship
in the past, you're so grateful sometimes to receive something
and you feel so relieved. You're like, oh, it was
your sister Fiona, and they say yes, You're like, oh,
thank goodness, that's good, and that is good. It is
really good. But it could be better, it could be stronger,
(09:46):
it could be more clear, and with the spirituous national union.
It's a science, a philosophy and a religion, so they're
trying to make sure that the scientific part is very
strong also, so we have to be very clear with
what we say.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
Yeah, I think that's such a great distinction, and thank
you for pointing out that it's always pushing us to
be better, to do better, to try to really investigate
and not to just lean on.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
When I see this symbol, it means this or this,
but to push yourself. And I think that's such a
great reminder to all of us who've been doing this work,
whether it's one year or ten years or thirty years.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
There's always more to learn. That's what I love about this.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
I know it was always more to learn, and that's
why I find it so fascinating and it's such a
passion as I know it is for you too as well.
Speaker 4 (10:37):
I was in England a while back and went to
a group reading a gallery reading experience in a Spiritualist
church with a young woman who was in training. It
was just basically working to learn from the group that
we were there, and when she got to me, she said,
will you take information from someone? It presents to me
(11:01):
as an older woman, so she asked permission to do that,
and I said, of course, And it was very clear
within I don't know two sentences that my mom was
there and that was really love. So it was a
great experience and the way it was handled with such
respect and ethics was just lovely. And I know that
a big part of the work that you do has
(11:23):
to do with teaching and being connected to how important
ethical behavior is in this profession.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
Yeah, it's super super important. And we do ask are
you is it okay for me to work with you?
Because when you're at a gallery reading, somebody might have
been dragged along by their friend, They might not particularly
want to be there, they might feel very uncomfortable, so
we do have to make sure that they're comfortable. Or
maybe you went thinking, oh I do, and then when
you're actually sort of singled out by the medium, you
(11:52):
might think, oh no, no, I don't want to. So
we have to make sure that everybody's all right and
everybody's comfortable. So, yeah, ethics is a huge part. We
have to behave in such an ethical way and hold
ourselves to such a high standard. And like we've just discussed,
always trying to get better, trying to because we are
the voice for the voiceless the spirit world. We are
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there ambassadors, so we have to do the best that
we can possibly do for them.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
And I recommend any listener listen to your last episode
of your podcast on the Sacred Path of Mediumship, because
you touch upon that in there, really, really well. But
that leads me to a question that has always stayed
in the back of my head years ago when I
was first starting out, before you really understand what's happening
or how to set boundaries with it, I would get
(12:41):
spirits talking.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
To me frequently.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
And one night I had finally put my kids to
bed early in and I went to one of those
late walk in places to get your nails done. And
I'm sitting there getting my pedicure a long day with
the kids, and I'm very happy to be there, and
there's a young woman next to me, young she was
eighteen nineteen, and I'm here her father talking to me,
and he wanted to thank her for the tattoo on
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her foot. He wanted to tell her that he loves
the boy that she's dating. He had a lot of
things to say, and I'm thinking, how am I going
to do this, because it's not ethical. It's like eight
thirty at night, you know, but this is weird. And
finally I see she ships over in the seat where
she's sitting next to me, and I see all these
stars on her ankle and I said, oh, I like
(13:27):
your tattoo, and she said, oh, I just got it
in honor of my dad. He passed away last year
and he was in the military. And I'm like, oh,
that's my opening. But I just couldn't do it because
it didn't feel right. And so I went home and
I remember I said to my former husband, I felt
so guilty.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
And he said, God gave you this.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
You need to that man went through so much to
get you to sit in that chair. He said, when
is the last time you got a pedicure? When is
the last time you went out late at night to
get a pedicure? Does that father orchestra did that? And
he said you need to decide who do you serve,
the living or the dead?
Speaker 2 (14:07):
And I just I don't know.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
That always stayed with me and I just would love
to hear what you think about that, because ethically, I
don't think that we should just say hello, you'r a
diseased father is with you?
Speaker 3 (14:19):
Yeah, I don't think we should either no matter what
the circumstance is, unless invited to do so by the recipient.
That's the stand I would always take on that It's
a difficult one because I understand your dilemma. However, I
would always say to the spirit person, if there is
a message and you want to get through to your daughter,
(14:40):
then find a way that is ethically correct to do that. Well,
they will know that anyway of the spirit world. Maybe
it was more for you to ask that question about
yourself and where you stand ethically. Maybe that just came
up for you, or you could query was he really
with you or were you picking that up psych from
her Auric Field, I felt it was him strongly what
(15:04):
I do now.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
I was in a airport a couple of months ago,
and that I felt a woman's husband, and instead of
telling her that, I just took everything he said and
I worked it into the conversation because his big message
was he was very happy for some paper she had
gotten published and he wanted her to frame it. And
so I asked her what she did for a living,
and she told me she was a hospice nurse, and
(15:26):
I was like, well, how would she have a published paper?
And so I asked her another question, and she had
just started working with some cardiologists and had a paper published,
and I said, you know, you should really get that framed.
Your kids would love to see that. And she was like,
you know, I was thinking about that, but it felt
too egoistical. So that's how I kind of handle it now,
(15:46):
is instead of saying, your deceased husband is here, I
try to just work it into the conversation.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
Yeah, I think it's I think that's good. I think
it can be quite alarming to go up to somebody
and gave them information that is unwarranted. People have done
it to me before, and it's made me feel and
I'm a medium, it's made me feel really uncomfortable. I'm
not in the space to receive information from the spirit world.
I don't want to know. I don't trust them, I
don't know who they are, I don't know whether the
(16:15):
information is incorrect or correct. I don't know whether my
loved ones are there or are not there. And I
don't want that kind of information till I'm ready to
receive it. So I think we just have to be
very very careful. I mean, if you are a doctor,
you don't run up to somebody on the pavement saying,
you've got a rash on your face. I really have
to tell you you've got to go and get treatment
and get some antibiotics, because that would go against a
(16:37):
Geneva convention. You wouldn't go and do that, So why
would you do it as a medium, go and start
shouting to people that you can see the spirit world
all Because we have to be careful. Now, I'm not
saying that this is what you'll you've experienced, Samantha, but
we have to be careful of our ego because when
we've got this gift, it does make us feel sometimes
(16:58):
a little bit special, and it is really exciting, and
we do become very passionate about it, and we do
want to tell people. But I've found in my experience
it's better not to go up to people and say
things that they don't want to hear. That's what I
would say.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
I agree, No, I one hundred percent agree. It's just
always going to to beat in my head. If we're
a kind of it between both sides, then where's that loyalty?
So I think it's important to just consider interesting though.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
Let's go to that point though, because the loyalty is
your loyalty with the human being or with the spirit world.
It's interesting, isn't I haven't really thought about it in
that way. I suppose, of course our loyalty is with spirit.
It has to be with the spirit world, because we're
their ambassador and we're their voice. But just because we
are aware of their presence doesn't mean that they want
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us necessarily to tell somebody something. Sometimes it might be
highly appropriate, So I think each case we have to
I think we have to be careful. I think from
my point of view for those listening, I would say,
please don't go up to people on the street and
run and tell them information. Please don't do that. However,
(18:15):
I think there are cases where it is appropriate.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
Yeah, it's tricky.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
It's tricky.
Speaker 4 (18:21):
It is tricky. How do you say the profession of
mediumship evolving and changing as it becomes such a thing.
You know, we've moved into this world where lads of
folks and media practicing mediumships.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
What do you think's carefully Hmmm, What.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
A delicious, juicy question there is for me. I think
the world is changing very much. We're becoming there's a
lot of children coming in the Indigo children and the
Rainbow Children. There's a lot of consciousness investigation and research
and science now taking place which has its unprecedented It's
(18:59):
not been like that for well since last two thousand years,
I suppose, and I find that really exciting. So we
are as a society wanting to investigate this. Have you
listened to the Telepathy Tapes? Absolutely fantastic podcast. Now for
those who don't know, please go listen to the Telepathy Tapes.
I came across it a couple of months ago, and
(19:21):
it's about children who are nonverbal, who are able to communicate,
and some of them don't even realize that they autistic
children don't realize that they have a physical body because
they are pure consciousness, and so they're speaking to each
other without as we do with mediumship, without the need
for a language, which curtails us in a way, and
(19:42):
they find us as speaking people the odd ones out,
not the other way around. Anyway. Telepathy Tapes is really
really good. So that's all about consciousness and research and science,
and the Arthur Finny College have got Arthur's vision, which
is all about pushing forward the science of this mediumship,
(20:03):
and the psychic faculty which I'm all for and for
me find it fascinating to think about pathetic telepathy where
you've got the US military are doing investigations into implants
in the mind that can read our thoughts. So if
you have soldiers in a place whereby they're not able
(20:23):
to speak because it's too loud, because it's too much
fighting going on, or they need to be rescued from
where they are, they just have to think a thought
and they will know the helicopter or whatever the rescue
people will know how to pick them up. They're synthetic telepathy.
We're in the medical field where people are able to
make an implant into your mind and you're able to
(20:44):
move your false limb up and down, your hands around,
and that's just the beginning of those kind of things.
So but if they are usedturre telepathy, they could, I'm
sure run a lot faster. And I think with my
past life regression that I've trained past life with and
all of these things, I think if we can match
that up and marry that up with our mediumship and
(21:05):
artificial intelligence, how incredible would it be to have a
virtual reality experience whereby you can see a physical picture
of your loved one, but also have the mediumship coming
alongside it, so that the whole thing becomes this experiential
reading rather than Oh, here's your mom. She says this,
(21:29):
you can feel your mom. You can know your mom
so much more so. I think there's loads to come
for mediumship. I'm excited about it.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
Wow, that gives me chills.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
I've never heard that take on where a mediumship is going.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
I'm picturing like putting on like the.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
Oculus VR goggles and like seeing my dad and then
the medium is helping me talk to him. That's I
love that and very very hopeful.
Speaker 3 (21:53):
Well, this is why I can't sleep at night. My
mind goes onto all of these things.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
I want to talk about some of your favorite readings
in your work with Tony starkwell, but we're going to
take a very quick break and we'll be right there.
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Speaker 2 (23:22):
Welcome back.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
I can you talk to us about some of your
favorite reading experiences without bringing any confidentiality of course, But
is there like a validation you brought through where you
were like, oh my gosh, well.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
I don't know. It's quite often I don't remember on earth.
I've just said, because the information is not of me
or of any medium, it passes through us. We are
the channel through which it passes. Actually, sometimes it's quite
hard to remember and retain. So the things I do
remember are my earlier experiences that I had when I
first started out with mediumship. I remember there was a girl.
(23:59):
There's two that I can recall, but this was a
long time ago, and both of which actually happened at
Tony' Stockwell studio when I was first training with him.
And one was a young girl in spirit I was
working with and I knew that she was in a
hospital bed in Great Ormond Street Hospital. It's a children's
(24:19):
hospital in London. And she gives me the name Clarence,
and I know that I'm friendly with a girl in
the next bed, and a lady put her hand up
and it was the friend of the mother whose girl
was in the next bed. So it was so there
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was the spirit communicated, you understand. And then there was
a friend in the audience, but she knew the mother
of the girl that was in the next bed. So
this lovely girl from the spirit world was telling me
that she was on Clarence Ward and that her mother
and her had traveled by train an awful lot. There
was a lot of train journeys to get long long
train journey to get to Great Ormond Street hospital. Now,
(25:02):
the woman in the audience didn't know, but she verified
it afterwards that yes, she found out there were a
lot of trained journeys involved. And the last thing that
I said to this woman was that this little girl
gives her mother a beaded bracelet round her wrist, and
she's giving her this beaded bracelet. And of course the
(25:22):
lady in the audience didn't know what that meant, but
she said, okay, I'll let the mother know. And of
course I always say only if you feel it's appropriate,
because again, it's not appropriate to just go and say, oh,
so and so came through in this mediumship thing if
they're not ready to receive. But she was. And it
turned out that the last thing that this little girl
had given to her mother before she passed away was
(25:43):
a home made beaded bracelet that she made in this
bed in Clarence Ward in Great Ormond Street. Wow, if
I know, isn't that just amazing? So that affirmed to
me that not only could I see the little girl
and the little girl, but that information was correct. If
only my mediumship could be as accurate all the time,
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that would be great, wouldn't it. But that was a
particularly interesting, fascinating reading that came through and I loved that.
That was really good. And then the second one was
I was demonstrating mediumship to an audience. I think it
must have been on the demonstrating mediumship course with Tony,
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and I said, I've got a gentleman here. Now, I
was looking out at a very white, middle class audience
and of UK people out there in the middle of
Billericki in England, and I said, I've got a gentleman
here who's dressed head to foot in skins, rabbit skins,
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skins of foxes, things like this. He's very very tall,
he's dragging a sled behind him, and he's walking across
the waste of I think it was Greenland or Icelander
caut remember, let's say Greenland. He's and here he comes
walking and he's calling to you across the ice. And
I looked out and I said, does anybody understand this gentleman?
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I gave the age in a few more details, and
I just thought, I'm going bonkers. No one's going to
take this man dressed in skins in Greenland, dragging a sled.
And somebody did They put their hand up. This is
my uncle. And I said, Uncle, this is my uncle.
He lived in Greenland. He hunted seals, that's what it was.
He was seal skins. He hunted seals and he lived
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in Greenland. And I said, he calls to you across
the ice with this low sort of call. It's like
like that, very very long, and I said, and through that,
I was thinking, why is he giving me this call?
And I said, oh, he tells me. You use your
voice in this way. It's like a long held note.
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She said, yes, I'm an opera singer. It was amazing. Wow,
I know.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
And that shows so much trust on you're a part well,
because sometimes we do see things and we're like, there's
no way this is going to land with anyone, and
then you have to surrender interest because like you said,
it comes through us that frantz.
Speaker 4 (28:16):
I love that story and it's like playing charade sometimes.
Speaker 3 (28:20):
Yeah, it is dead, it really is. And that surrendering trust,
Samantha is absolutely correct because so many times, look, there's
two great examples. Okay, oh shiny old me, aren't I great?
But how many times have I given other messages and
it's fallen flat and nobody's taken it but I always
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like to stretch my mediumship and never just go for
the grandma, the grandpa, the mom and the dad. I
like to see who's who is got the greatest need
there from the spirit world. And through being adventurous, through
being curious, you can be brave and bring through much
more evidential things eventually. But you have to be prepared
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to fail, and fail often and fail hard, and that's okay.
Speaker 1 (29:10):
Yeah, people need to hear that, they really do, because
we're not used to.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
There's something different about mediumship and psychic work too. It's
so vulnerable. Yeah, especially when you're doing platform readings and
you're on stage and everyone's staring at you, and if
you drop the ball, you're not only dropping the ball
for all the people who came and paid and are
waiting to hear from their loved ones. You're dropping the
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ball and the spirit all those people who have lined
up and a lot of pressure. I don't think people
really understand that, And so when we give ourselves permission
to fail sometimes it's like a pressure valve.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
It releases some of that which is important.
Speaker 3 (29:51):
So yeah, for sharing that, I think because we're so
frightened of getting a know. I know, I was very
frightened of getting a no, thinking oh, because when someone
says no, oh, we think it means I've failed, I've
got it wrong, I'm useless. That's the message that comes
back to our brain. But actually I've written a podcast
(30:11):
episode about it, and it's called why Saying no Why
or getting no?
Speaker 4 (30:16):
Why?
Speaker 3 (30:16):
It's so right and the no is the signpost to
where you're meant to be. So we go back to
that example of was your sister named Fiona or your
sister was named Fiona, wasn't she No? Then you say, okay,
well that's interesting. You say no because I feel this
spirit communicator is telling me that Fiona was your sister.
(30:37):
Let me try to unfold that for you. Let me
try to see why I've got that and why I
haven't got it quite rightful. I'll help you unfold it.
When you're like that and you become more curious about
that rather saying okay, let's just forget that, then let's
move to something else. That's where you come out of
your power completely. You have to stay in the power
of your soul, the power of the spirit communicator, work
(30:59):
with them. Don't take any notice of the recipient. Recipient
sometimes forgets the recipient sometimes doesn't remember names. I've done
that before when I've been receiving a message. I've said, no,
I don't know anyone called Paul, and then I'm like,
oh my gosh, my brother is called Paul, that he's
in this bear aut world. Silly me, How did I forget?
(31:20):
It happens?
Speaker 2 (31:21):
It does. What do they call it? Psychic amnesia?
Speaker 3 (31:23):
They yeah, yeah, that's right.
Speaker 4 (31:26):
Tell us about your work at the London College of
Psychic Studies.
Speaker 3 (31:30):
Yeah, that's interesting, isn't it. It ties into Tony Stockwell
a little bit actually, so I'll tell you about Tony
in a minute. But I work as a tutor for
the College of Psychic Studies and it's such an honor
to work there. It's such a beautiful building. It's down
a side street in Kensington, opposite the Natural History Museum.
(31:53):
So if anybody listening is ever in London, I think
it's opened a couple of days a week for passers
by to call in. It's got them the most beautiful
library in there that you could sit with these wing
backed armchairs, and it's so peaceful and silent compared to
Knight's bridge outside, which is so busy, and it's got
such a beautiful feeling every room. You can feel the
(32:13):
energy in the space. It's absolutely brilliant. They've got an
array of fantastic teachers teaching all kinds of topics of psychic, mediumship,
past life, all kinds of different things they teach there,
and I'm honored to be a teacher there. I'd teach
remote viewing, and I'd teach psychic classes, and I'd teach
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mediumship classes and all kinds of differ things online and
in person.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
Yeah, I love it.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
We have such lovely, thoughtful listeners and whatever our listeners
knows of my desire to go to England, debas Ben,
I have not. And she went to the College of
Psychic Studies and she mailed me the catalog. It was
thick and beautiful and I wanted to dig every single
class in that catalog, and then I started He's searching
(33:00):
at going on the website and it's a great resource
and I'm so happy that there are online classes all right,
But now we have to get to how you met Tony.
Speaker 3 (33:08):
Yeah, bless Tony. He's so lovely. So a long time ago,
when I had my children, I started seeing spirit people,
as I've already said, and it was a little bit disconcerting.
But I was a single parent and I had absolutely
no money and no family and no friends in London.
I mean I had lots of friends, but no one
available to come and sit with my children. So I
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somehow managed to get to the pub one evening and
have a drink with a friend just up the road.
Somebody looked after my children for a couple of hours,
so we went out. We had a drink and a
man came up to me and he said to me,
out of the blue, you are a medium. And I
said to him, what do you mean, what are you
talking about? And he said, I can tell that you
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are a medium. You must go and study with Tony
Stockwell do you know who that is? And I said no,
I have no idea. He said, look him up, go
study with him. He said, I have to go now,
but promise me you'll do it. I said, okay, I will,
and he disappeared. He was like one of those earth
angels that just arrive in your life for some reason
and then just disappear. So it was very strange. I mean,
(34:14):
men usually in a bar in my past experience have
wanted to buy me a drink and get to know
me a little. But it was a little different. So
I looked up Tony Stockwell. At the time, Tony had
many many television programs. He's on YouTube, anybody wants to
look at him up. He had sixth cents that he
was working with Colin Frye. He was on at the
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London Palladium for such a well known psychic and medium.
So I thought, well, I'll go and get a reading
with Tony Stockwell and if he tells me I'm a medium,
then I'll believe him. So I tried to get a reading,
but he had a six month waiting list, so I thought,
oh my gosh, that's not going to work. And then
(34:56):
I saw that the College of Psychic Studies was having
an open day. So I went to the open day
and I had a lovely time looking around the college
and seeing what it was all about. And there was
a raffle at the end of the afternoon, and this
lady was rattling this collection tin buy some raffle tickets,
and I was thinking, no, I've got to buy bread
and butter for my children. I got to buy raffle tickets.
(35:19):
So she was like, please buy raffle tickets, raffle tickets
and raffle ticket and I said no twice, and then
the third time I felt so embarrassed at being so British.
I thought, oh, I better buy some raffle tickets and
this lovely lady. So I did play my little pound
for my raffle tickets. And several of the raffle prizes
had been given out to various people, and there were
three prizes left, and I went up to get my
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prize and it was a private reading with Tony Stockwell.
Speaker 5 (35:46):
Om on.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
Fantastic.
Speaker 3 (35:50):
Yeah, So I went and I had this private reading
with Tony Stockwell, and it was fabulous. He gave me
a fantastic reading. I didn't actually know anybody who had
died at that so a lot of his psychic guidance.
But nonetheless he said to me, I see you in
this place. I see you in this college. He said,
I don't know if it's now or in a few
years time, but I very much see you being part
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and parcel of this college. And now I am actually
a teacher at that college. And I went on to
study with Tony. When I found another friend and a
little bit more, and I went and I studied with
him in his space in Wickford, and then he moved
to Billericki, but I studied a lot with him, and
he noted that I was taking notes. I'm a real
(36:33):
note taker because I've got such a bad memory. I
can't remember anything, so I have to write it all down.
And he said, oh, we're very good at taking notes.
Can you just make a note of this for me
to remember to tell everybody about this and that and
blah blah blah. And in the end it became such
a frequent thing that he asked me to be his assistant.
So I started to work for him as his assistant,
and I've worked for him now for I don't know,
(36:54):
twelve years something like that. I helped him a lot
with his online classes, not teaching, of course, you understand
that's Tony's thing, but I was helping him with the
administration and the behind the scene and talking to his
students and getting them the information that they needed. Yeah,
so that's my story with Tony. And now he's asked
me to teach with him. We teach occasionally together, and
(37:14):
he's asked me to teach a program with him, which
is sold out. I'm afraid everybody. But it's an in
person in crew in Cheshire in England in November. And
also we are doing a class called the Virtual Medium,
The Virtual Medium. It's a three hour master class how mediumship.
We talked earlier, didn't we about how mediumship is changing?
And this class is particularly for those who are working
(37:38):
in the digital space because mediumship digitally is very different
to mediumship in an in person gallery style, and so
Tony and I are doing a master class for that,
and possibly we're going to turn that into a mentorship program.
I think that's probably got legs for twenty twenty six.
So Baduka the master class to start with.
Speaker 2 (37:58):
Oh yeah, I definitely want to do that.
Speaker 4 (38:00):
Which reminds me of one other thing along the way
of new adventures and so forth. Your website is just
so kind with such lovely free material on it. What
a gift you're doing. Thank you for there.
Speaker 3 (38:15):
Thank you so much. That's really kind of you to say.
The website, it's got all my podcasts on it. If
that's what you're referring to, you can sign up to
my newsletter. There's free meditations, there's free I've got a
lovely one week. I've called it psychic recipes or something
like that. I can't remember exactly what I called it,
but beautiful recipe to have breakfast every day. It comes
(38:36):
with a mantra and an affirmation. It's just sort of
tuning into your day. So yeah, I've got all kinds
of different things like that on it. My website is
Antaoto dot com A N N T H E A
t O dot com, but lots of stuff on there.
Just go and have a look, have a browse.
Speaker 5 (38:52):
I want people to know.
Speaker 1 (38:53):
About your free Mediumship Hour every month.
Speaker 3 (38:56):
Yeah, it's every week, actually, I mean week every that's right, Wednesday, Yeah,
every single Tuesday throughout the year, without fail. There is
a free event called the Mediumship Hour, and it takes
place at seven pm to eight pm UK time zone,
and I take the first half hour, and I have
(39:19):
an expert medium from across the globe to take the
second half hour. So it's a really hopefully high standard
of mediumship. And it's for people to come and see
different mediums working because it is really interesting to see
how other mediums get their information. And if you're somebody
who's grieving or you know, you're interested to see how
mediumship works. It's a good place to go to see
(39:43):
well how UK mediums might work sometimes. But I do
work with a lot of American mediums as well who
come on, and mediums from Denmark and Germany and all
over the world.
Speaker 1 (39:53):
So yeah, then you also teach a lot about remote
viewing and scrying, and so I would love people to
hear your views on psychic tools. So, for example, Deban,
I think it's important to explore all the different psychic tools,
whereas we've heard from other mediums who say, no, no,
you should rely on nothing but your connection to spirit,
(40:15):
and I just would like to hear your take on that.
Speaker 3 (40:18):
Oh I love a psychic tool, I do. I love
them well. I think the thing is where the Spirituous
National Union would stand on psychic tools is yes, use
your psychic tool, definitely enjoy there's lots to be said
for them. They're fantastic. But when you're working as a
(40:39):
medium in one of the Spirituous National Union churches, they
ask you not to use psychic tools. And the reason
is they don't want to confuse the general public so
that the public think you need something to contact the
spirit world, because you don't. You just need your own
energy and your own connection to connect to spirit. You
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don't need any psychic tool. That's why they don't allow
that on their platforms in the churches. And I think
there's a lot to be said for that, But there
are other ways to work also and using a psychic
tool for reading psychically, which again let's remind ourselves as
reading the living is a great but you can also
(41:23):
use tools to connect to spirit, and they used to
years ago use flowers or fruits and all kinds of
different things to connect to the spirit world. I think
the SAU spirit is national union. They have to be
very careful and they have to be very clear this
is what we do in our churches. But they're not
saying you cannot do it, So that's the no.
Speaker 1 (41:43):
I think that's an important distinction because I would be
weirded out if a medium I don't know pulled out
a crystal ball.
Speaker 2 (41:50):
Or to road cars while she was talking to my father.
Speaker 1 (41:53):
I think there needs to be that delineation. But I
love to explore psychic tools for my own development. It's
like going to the gym for me, you know, It's
like strengthening that muscle.
Speaker 3 (42:06):
Yeah, totally, And I do a lot of classes as well.
I'm teaching at the College's Psychic Studies actually, but doing
psychic essentials. So we'll be using scrying tools, bowls of water, hagstones,
tarot cards, all kinds of different things, mirrors, and I
get people to read things on their desk, like a
pen or a pencil or a bit a crumpled up paper.
Speaker 1 (42:26):
I have a question. It's so funny, isn't it. Dev
We've gotten like three emails from listeners this month on hagstones,
so we've answered those questions. And I've heard that you
can like look through the whole of a hagstone and
see into the fairy realm. But I have never heard
of a hagstone as a psychic tool. Can you enlighten us?
Speaker 3 (42:47):
Yeah? A hagstone is so great. So for people that
don't know what hagstone is, it's a stone that you
can pick up on a beach or an estuary and
it has had over the years, some little parasitic worm
that's gone into that stone and eaten away a little
hole and the water washes in and it becomes a
hole with a stone in it. That's the gist of
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what it is. And you can pick it up and
you can look through it and you can see. But
what you're really looking through with all psychic tools is
you're using it as a springboard into your intuition. So
you're connecting with that stone, you're connecting with the energy
it contains, using your energy, and you're looking through the
(43:28):
hole within that stone to look for images symbols. Movement
is a bit like looking through a crystal ball, where
an image starts to form, and it might be a
solid image to start with, and it might then start
to move like a movie. And if you start to
look at it as if you're watching a movie and
become curious about what happens, the movie starts to play out.
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You start to watch what goes on, and then you
can move your awareness into the hagstone or into the
crystal ball. You're standing in it and the things that
are happening all around you, So you're in the movie yourself,
and that's where you pick up all your information.
Speaker 1 (44:08):
So fascinating. The hole in the hagstone is the point
of focus to allow your conscious to relax or you
can connect with greater things. That's really cool.
Speaker 3 (44:18):
I love that.
Speaker 4 (44:19):
And Dawn in the room I'm sitting here, there is
a cord of nine hagstones.
Speaker 3 (44:26):
Oh, how brilliant. Where did you get all of those from?
But I live on an island, perfect, so you're collecting them? Yeah,
if ever I go to a beach, I collect a
whole load, so that if I go to a class
I can take them with me in my suitcase and
people can have a go themselves. But yeah, brilliant. I'm
all for a psychic tool though.
Speaker 1 (44:45):
Good, okay, good, I'm glad to hear that because I
agree with you. I think the mediumship should be secret.
I understand that, but I think it's just I don't
mean to be disrespectful to.
Speaker 2 (44:55):
These psychic tools.
Speaker 3 (44:55):
But it's so fun. It's fun.
Speaker 1 (44:58):
Yeah, I enjoy Like I just something I didn't know.
You could use hagstones like a crystal ball.
Speaker 2 (45:03):
I'm still learning runs.
Speaker 1 (45:05):
Dub and I have never really mastered eating, but we
like studying it. Like it's all just fun.
Speaker 3 (45:10):
Yeah, exactly. And you can connect to the spirit world
by using a tool as well. So you could draw
a tarot card to move into the energy of the
queen or the king or whoever it is that is
in the tap presenting in the tarot card, or you
could use a beautiful flower to first of all psychically
(45:32):
tune into your recipient and then use the flower and
the fragrance of the essence and the energy to move
into Do you know what I am now beginning to
become aware of the softness of a lady who joins
me from the spirit world. And I believe this lady
to be on mother. And as I stand it with
this flower in my hand, and I hold these two
leaves that are presenting on the left hand side, I
(45:53):
know that she had two children. And as I see
there is a leaf that has dropped away on the right,
I know she has lost a child. Can work in
this way, and that's just as beautiful, And I feel
also needs experimentation so that we don't become using our
we don't use our mediumship in such a small and tiny,
confined way.
Speaker 4 (46:14):
Yeah, lovely, that's just lovely.
Speaker 2 (46:17):
Well, and we have so enjoyed this.
Speaker 1 (46:19):
I'm looking at my list of questions I had just
typed up, and I haven't gotten too half of them.
So I really would love to have you back on.
Maybe I was going to say when your schedule eases up,
but that's not happening, is.
Speaker 3 (46:32):
It, Well, I don't know. I'll always make time for
talking about mediumship or the psychic world or the you know,
the pushing forward the boundaries of consciousness because it's my passion.
So yes, of course I'll come back.
Speaker 4 (46:44):
Thank you, love.
Speaker 2 (46:45):
We would love that, Yeah, we really really would.
Speaker 1 (46:48):
This was super fun and educational and informative. I can't
wait to share it with everyone. We'll put it in
the show notes people, but please know you can go
to a n n th Ea t o dot to
access her website and find out more about her free
Tuesday hours and all her other great resources. Don't forget
to check out her podcast, Psychic Matters, available Apple, Spotify,
(47:13):
pretty much everywhere, right, yeah.
Speaker 3 (47:14):
Pretty much everywhere. And for your listeners, you're coming on
my podcast too, so I'm really looking forward to very
excited for that.
Speaker 2 (47:21):
Yeah, thank you so much. Thank you guys for listening.
Speaker 1 (47:24):
Please remember, as always to be the light for yourself
and others.
Speaker 4 (47:29):
Take care everyone.
Speaker 1 (47:36):
Thank you for listening to Psychic Teachers, your podcast for seekers,
light workers, mystics, and magical thinkers. If you like the show,
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Speaker 2 (47:45):
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Speaker 1 (47:47):
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Thanks for listening and have a great week.
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