PFP #88 - Con Air

On this episode we have a hilarious discussion about the 1997 movie Con Air! This action movie starring national treasure Nic Cage along with John Cusack, John Malkovich, and Steve Buscemi is an insane film to behold. We also pay our respects to Stan Lee. Join us!#niccage #conair 
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back in the box. I'm Mark, I'm Milicia, I'm Jeff, I'm
Betty Man. Tonight, we're gonnatalk about the movie Benny has seen four
hundred times. Connor yea before weget there recipe. Stanley absolutely sucks.

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Yeah, you know, um,just I don't want to sound next,
but I mean, he was ninetyfive. We knew it was coming.
Oh yeah, he lived one hellof a long, legendary life, something
that amazing creator. I really wonderwhat they're gonna do in the next Infinity
War movie to honor him, becausethere's probably gonna be oh yeah, a

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bunch of Easter eggs stuff. JustI wonder if he Yeah, that was
my next question. I did readthat he already had filmed his cameo Infinite
Part two whatever they're calling it hiscameo, So we get next year a
little bit more Stanley. I mean, thank god for YouTube. We get

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Stanley anytime we wore and of courseall the comic books. Uh, is
there like a favorite Stanley moment oror piece of work that you guys are
very fond of? For me,you know, being a kid and going
to combook store with my uncle recipestoo. Um, you know, Spider

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Man was like the first book thatmy uncle introduced me to and that kind
of took took off for me fromMarvel, right, and of course you
know back in the day, youknow, always hearing Stanley on like cartoons.
He used to like Spider Man andhis Amazing Friends. Stand was the
announcer that that was probably the firstthing for me, right, Yeah,
and even maybe the original sixties cartoonand he might have had a voice around't

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know, I don't know, butyeah, he was always the face of
Marvel. Uh. We got tosee him. It wasn't rule in Philadelphia,
like maybe four years ago, thirteenis when we got to see him,
I believe. Yeah, he happenedto be doing a It was Friday
Night a lot of times. Youknow, some of the bigger people,

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you know, the Friday night panelsaren't as big, but it was Stanley
like, well, we gotta go. Yeah, and we I think we
we could have actually sat right upfront, but we weren't sure. Yeah,
so it kind of sat a fewrows back. But they had a
giant scream projecting. Uh you know, stand him talking. He was hilarious,
really like his answers every question.We were funny. He had like

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he was hard hearing, so hehad a handler that would help him out
with some of the stuff he didn'tthat he couldn't hear him. And that
helped make it funny because in stanleouldmake jokes about that too. Ye.
Really such a great great The tripitself got horrific. Yeah, because you
know sometimes when you share a roomwith somebody else the couple, if you're

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listening to Scott, I know you'renot, but if you are, hey,
it's I love But yeah, yougot stored pretty wicked bad. But
we had a blast with Stanley.I'm glad I got the opportunity to see
the guy. And I think thenext day he was signing and I was
like, well, I'm getting lineand signed, but I think it was
charging like eighty bucks. I waslike, Stanle, I love you.
Now you kind of wish you wouldright now. I wish I would have.

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Yes, absolutely, lish. Imean, I know you did grow
up reading comments like me, butI know there was a time where Stanley
became somebody you knew. Uh well, it probably I feel like the name
really became something that I knew ofbecause of you. Really, um but
I grew up with X Men,and I grew up watching the was an

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amazing Spider Man because that or noSpider Man is an amazing friend. Yes,
I remember watching them and the Iceman. Yeah, that was like a
big part of my childhood. AndI didn't get that with any of my
other friends because nobody else was abig nerd like I was. So yeah,
I loved growing up with his characters. And then as I'm as an

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adult, I got to know whohe was as a person. I thought
he was really cool. So,Jeff, what about you? I just
had to think for a minute there. I mean, I who I would
hope most people were his comic booksgrowing up. I grew I read a

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bunch of them, But I don'tthink I've have been starting to see him
in the cameos when you actually gotto see him, even though it's just
a little jokey plot point, noteven a plot point, just a cameo.
I always love those. They fancastic. You just have to watch the
movie and you're always thinking, allright, where's he gonna pop up,
Where's he gonna pop up? Where'she gonna pop up? Yeah, Benny,

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I guess for me because those weren'tthe comics I grew up with in
my house as much. My dadis more of a DC guy, But
at the time that I was growingup, it was those Marvel cartoons were
so good, and so that wasprobably my first introduction to him, And
was the Spider Man one that helike flat out and narrated one of them.

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He just was the narrator of inthe cartoons. Yeah, I think
it was Spider Many Friends. Yeah, yeah, and that always. I
mean, he's such a distinct guy. I swear it. He dies his
n five. I swear he wasone hundred and twenty in the early nineties.
I think is amazing. Right,Yeah, but yes, that was

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probably my first thing. And theother thing that struck me the other day.
I was just trying to think,like, who else made up that
many original characters that have endured forso long, And the first name I
thought of was Marvel's owner now waslike Walt Disney. But and Walt Disney
definitely made a lot of characters,but a lot of those were just old
fair snow white existed before. Idon't think there's anybody that created more characters

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out of thin there than Stanley did, Right, it can't be almost maybe,
well no, because that's just notone person. I think it definitely
created a lot of characters. ForI was thinking the X Men, But
that's not just one person creating thosecharacters. Is Zak Kirby And yeah,
yeah, but he created a lot. He wrote a lot. I mean,

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think about that stuff that people readingfor over fifty years yea, and
will continue to read fifty plus.People will still be finding books he wrote,
in the in the dollar bins,in the trade paper ball. It's
like, I mean, his legacy, Like, I guess that's how you
become immortal. Yeah, you leavesuch a legacy. People will always be

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reading your stuff and talking about whatyou wrote, talking about your cameos.
You know, people will still bewatching streaming unhobably streaming him fifty years and
maybe right to the brain, butpeople will still be seeing his cameos I
when they're rewatching all these these belovedmovies. So you have to wonder too,
because we've seen this with other celebritiesin the past. Like in a

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few years, when they start goingthrough his estate or something, are they
going to find some stuff that wasnever released, like Jack Kirby's like grandkids
or whatever. They found a bunchof stuff. Yeah, so I wonder
what is going to come up fromstan Lee. You mean, like they'll
find some unwritten works. Yeah,try to publish it well, or just

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put it out for the public forfree, which would be great. Yeah,
that's going to happen. No,probably not. But I'm sure there's
something sitting in his addict that heforgot about that he wrote twenty years.
I mean, and even I wouldassume that, you know, the Hulk
wasn't the first draft of a characterthat was struck by whatever to get you

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know, like there's all sorts ofother things that, yeah, he eventually
ended on Iron Man or the Hulk, or you know, like there's all
sorts of variations that came before thatthat are probably pretty cool and Marvel could
probably make a lot of money.I'm sure the lawyers are already all over
it. One of my favorite cameosis uh mall rats. Oh yeah,

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he was in the movie by KevinSmith. Um because Kevin Smith turned out
to like meet his childhood hero andend up being like friends. Yeah,
did you see his tribute to her? That was pretty good? I did
not pretty good. But in themovie I love how they get Stanley.
They try to help the character Brodybecause Brodie's just fixiating, obsessed with the

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certain things, and they somehow getstand Lee to kind of talk some sense
in to him. But the firstthing Brody says to Stanley is like,
oh my god, was the thing'suh thing made of rock? Did the
U was the or mister fantastic didhis dick? You know? I was
able to And Stanley's just like,look, we didn't get We didn't go
into that when I was writing comicbooks, but I thought that was probably

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that's my favorite on screen. Yeahfrom Stanley. That guy was awesome.
Certainly shape my childhood. I mean, I wrote a comic book and probably
wouldn't have done it if I wasn'ta fan of Commis because of him,
right, So thank you stan You'rewicking awesome and h hey, you're probably

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kicking it wherever you're at writing somemore shit. So you're awesome, all
right, speaking of somebody that's goingto leave a mark in history, the
one and only Nicholas Cage. Getagain, we're talking about one of his
movies. Yeah, we just can'thelp ourselves. We could run out,

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except he puts out three movies aweeks. Yeah, ahead of us.
We're not going to run out,and uh we're going to chat about uh
nineteen ninety seven. It came out, uh con air. Now, I
tell you, I rewatched this lastnight and boy, yeah, what a

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freaking treat. Uh. Well,on both spectrums. Half of me was
like this good. The other halfof me is like, oh my god,
this got this guy made and theygave him like three hundred million dollars
to make it. Wow, hegot paid that much. Now the movie,
Like the budget of the movie waslike something indiculous amount of money.

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No, I mean, I knowwhen this movie came out, I remember
thinking it was really good, kindof awesome. And then yeah, when
we watched it last night, Iwas laughing at a lot of parts that
I probably wasn't laughing at. Yeah, I don't know. I was really.
You know, the opening the movieis like dark. Yeah, someone

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talking over top of military scenes areand war scenes talking about rangers, you
know, the bond they have,never leaving a man behind, And I'm
like, I just turned am Iwatching a war movie? It was a
very like the opening didn't quite fitthe cheese that followed. No, I

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mean, I know they were settingup, so we understood camera Po's motivation,
right, but a man behind,but camera po Nicholas CA's doing I
guess like a Southern maybe Louisiana.Yea. He went to Alabama to try
and he went he went there tolearn to perfect Yes, yeah, god

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it was bad, so he wentthere for like a day. I think
if Nicholas Cage wanted to do agood Southern accent, he would have done
it good. Oh, I don'tknow who that is. I'm assuming there's
a reason he decided to do abad Southern accent. That's what I think,
because I'll never stop defense. Waitwait, you think that was an
acting choice. I think I probablyknow. I think purpose. I think

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that was Nicholas Cage's best attempt atSouthern. Going back to the budget,
it was a draw. I mean, it was a hell of a draw.
Seventy five thousand dollars, seventy fivemillion dollars. It wasn't quite that
bad. Yeah, wait his hiscut. No for the movie, three
hundred million comfort it grows, Yeah, it grows to twenty four Okay,

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made the whole thing up. Yeah, the movie opens, Um, he's
got he's a charge, honor willdischarge. I assumed if he did four
years, whatever he did, histime was up in the military, coming
home, coming home, seeing hisgirl. I've never playing that song how
Can I Live Without You? Andthey must have paid laughter that song because

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they played a couple of times.Yeah. Now, as soon as he
gets here's where I started. Immediately, I was like getting infuriated with the
movie. He gets home, hiswife's like a bartender, just one bar,
and the regulars are just giant,misogynistic rape bass pieces of shit.

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Yeah. People, I'm sure exists, but I have never met in my
life. Right, It's just Imean, as soon as he gets there,
he wants he just wants to havea dance with his wife. Yeah,
and these guys would assume would supportyou know what I mean, Like
you would assume that that group ofpeople in the South would like support,
right, yeah, the military military. Yeah. Immediately. The one guy

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at the bar was like, Iwould take a beaty h to have set
or to get a piece of thatass. Yeah something. So I'm like,
really, like, he just gotback, you think he'd be and
they kind of knew him. Itsounded like they knew Yeah, you think
they'd be like, hey, welcomeback, thanks for your service. Um,

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we didn't touch your girlfriend or harassor while you were gone. Don't
kick her. They probably ross himby, you know, they instantly wanted
to fight him. Yeah. Yeah, and it's not like this, it's
not like camera Poe's wife was goingto do anything with him anyway, but
they were hell bent. I know. I rewatching it again and trying to
look at it the more analytical kindof way that I was trying to make

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sense of. Okay, so we'resupposed to believe that these people may have
given her a hard time while hewas gone, but right when he comes
back, suddenly when they turned likeviolent and nothing has happened, right,
Yeah, they got violent. Wegot her tough guy husband like that's it's
not gonna happen. Well, he'san army ring, Like yeah, you're

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probably gonna get a beating. That'slike. The most egregious case of that
ever is in Kindergarten Cople Schwarzenegger whenthere's one there's the one parent that looks
like the most average guy in theworld, but it's like he's hitting his
wife and kids and stuff on.Schwarzenegger goes to deal with it, and
that dad the first thing he doesis take a swing at Arnold. Schwarzenegger's

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like, that's the most egregious forhim, but this is pretty bad,
Like this is still like it's notgonna work, guys, And there's a
there's a part where she was liketelling him, like, you know,
basically, hey, calm down.Yeah, he's like she was like,
almost saw that old Cameron in you. I'm like, but they're being real
dicks. It's okay. The oldcamera comes out and kis the way they're

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the way they're acting. Nothing wrongwith beating the shit album. You need
to send them a message there soshe doesn't go back to work tomorrow and
have to deal with that. Right. In fact, the best in the
could have done it was like I'mhome, I'm gonna take you out of
the shitty bar. Right now,right, and we'll be out of the
situation. Yeah, what the hell'sup with her not meeting him at the
plane and everything? Oh, shehad to work that night. Come on,

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I think she could have gotten someoneto come. She could she it's
not like it's not like he calledher, like, you know, an
hour before, Like, hey,by the way, yeah, I'm home.
I just flew fourteen hours from after. She can go with the kid
to meet him later on, we'llget there. Yeah, maybe he was

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trying to surprise her. She surprisedwhen she turned around free YouTube. How
much did that happen? Okay,but everything escalates so fast. Yeah,
Like they're done with their dance,they go out, like and now it's
it's raining. These guys file himout of the bar and they want to
fight him. Like it was like, why you why do you want to

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fight him? Like he just gothome because his wife there's no it's his
wife that you're not. She's notgonna go sweet on you. And he's
in uniform and no era or you'rea hero if you beat up a dude
in uniform, except at the endof Vietnam maybe even still that's I was

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thinking. But like you're not ahero if you leave that dude. And
oh yeah, because the one guywas like, I forget oh Cameron didn't
punch him. And then the guysays to him about being a pussy.
It's like pussy's like you that,Wow, we lost Vietnam. I'm like,
because he didn't kick your ass twentytwo years ago, dude, get
over it. So it was Iguess I didn't quite understand why these guys

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waited. All right, Well,when camera Poe gets out of prison,
we're gonna be complete assholes. Prisonhim enough to like not do anything while
he's away, but then once hecomes back, now we're gonna be on
with it. It's ridiculous. Butthey but they go out to the car,
these three dude uh go out andthey instantly pick a fight and and

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we have like what I considered likeit's kind of funny, Like they start
a fight with him, he getsbeat down a second, but then he
comes back. Yeah, and hedoes the famous yeah open kill a guy
with open palm to the nose.Yeah, I guess shoving the bridge of
the nose into the brain. Yeah, Like isn't that like everybody talked about,

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like the kill shot. Yeah,that's well, you know where the
big thing that came from? Whatmovie that came from? But I always
heard my even though I had afriend, it was like, yeah,
dude, bro, I could killyou one shot, just dude, Like
just the Last Boy Scout was thatBruce Willis. That's where they kind of
made it famous in the Yeah damonWayams, I mean, does that does

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anybody? Does anybody know if that'seven possible? No, it's not.
I would let somebody try it onme. Now the figure out, I
don't Yeah, I don't know ifit's possible. I looked it up a
long time ago when something about TheLast Boy Scout came up, and it's
not possible. Now, he'd likemaybe one in a million, it might
be. But he does this killshot though, after a guy pops a

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switchblade and goes to stab him right, and he reacts, and then,
of course, and he kills aguy and a couple other guys grabbed the
knife. I am like, okay, evidence getting rid of the murder way
and they split and Bartender comes out, YadA, YadA, YadA. This
man's cut too. Yeah, camerajust gaus dead cut to the worst lawyer

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in the South. Yeah, prettymuch take the deal. It was self
defense. Yeah, his wife wasa witness. Yep. I was like
almost like I don't know if Icould rewatch this movie. I think cousin
Vinnie did a better job with thecourt. Yes, uh, they had
suspects, they he had a witness. Now, yeah, they could be

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like, well, it's your wife, she could lie for you, but
they didn't, even by his lawyerwas the shittiest lawyer. Yeah, you'll
get convicted and be out in theyear, right right, yeah, yeah,
yeah, yeah, plead I guessguilty too. In voluntary man.
But then the judge, what whatwas this move? Because you were in

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the military and army ranger, yourskills make you a literal Yeah, you're
a lethal weapon, so therefore youcan't be charged like a norm That's not
how it works anyway, that's nothow it works now. Anyway, the
judge isn't involved in plea deals thatdetermined the time you're spending in prison.
The judges presides that he's lethal weapons. Yeah, they agree on this,

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Like what it is like this issuch a bullshit. Yeah, Like and
he's got thrown in prison, Likewhat was the sentence? Like something like
that, something like that. Yeah, like yeah, then we had the
Parson Monte just take the like thepublic defender who was like his first Dana's
job. Probably if he would havehired a Johnny cochrane. Um, maybe

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he he doesn't have a job,his wife is some crappy and this is
this is pretty far well, it'sto the point, but pretty far out
there. So I listened to alot of the true crime podcasts and documentaries
and stuff like that, and acouple of them I've been listening to I've
been talking about how the number oflawyers we have in this country, that
number is going down generation by generationby generation. Because good, you're realizing

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that, yeah, you make alot of money, but it's a bullshit
job and for how much you work, it's a shit job. But the
people come in crimes because we're stillgrowing as a population NonStop, is going
up and up up. So pleadeals are the only thing that makes us
keep running. So I can havingsaid that, I can see a shitty

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one where a guy doesn't care abouthis conte or whatever. Just do this,
just do that, because I needto keep living my life. I
can't have a million, but nevercoming in and saying, oh you had
to steal. I'm throwing the otherway. You're getting eight years instead of
one. Yeah, because you nowagain, you remember back in the day
when people were like, would takea karate class, uh here or there

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or whatever. You're a black belt, you got register your hair because I
mean I had a friend that wasgiving me that line of bullshit. He
never took a karate class, buthe said he did, but he was
he was acting like, yeah,he would, you know, he'd have
to register because if he ever gotin a fight, he would be legally
I'm like, that doesn't sound right, dude, that's from a movie,

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that's all. Yeah. I wasalso saying that ninety five percent of the
people that do karate that well thoughthey're that dangerous. We know the names
of you know, but yeah,they're going and an Ali and Elizabethtown going
somewhere. Are probably not that dangerous. Now, having said that, I
do know the guy that works atFighting Dragons, he's fucking dangerous now he

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and his wife are both Now wouldthey have to now, okay, are
they lethal weapons if they if theygot in a fight with some dude in
Allie and ended up hurting them reallybad, but the hospital and possibly killing
them to defend their own life.Well, what would I don't know.
I don't know, No, becauseit's in self defense. Yeah, like,

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well, you guys are from fightingdragons, You're you're highly trained,
so you're not subject to normal laws. Right, But basically what he said,
I'm sure somebody from fighting dragons,if they've been doing karate whatever,
I think from fighting dragons, he'spretty big. I'm pretty sure most people
just are turning the other way.They're not going to attempt. Then somebody

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that well versed in martial arts isgoing to be able to defend themselves,
probably without even hurting some else.Oh my god, I want to talk
to him so bad, like heknow how to kill him shot shoving the
nose up through the brain, fivedeath punch. If he told me today
he's killed somebody. But I justthought that whole plot was it was so

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fast. It literally like yeah,we like two minutes, yeah, ten
minutes of the mo He is inprison. Yeah, they wanted too fast
forward everything because they want you toknow this is where we are right now.
We need in context to me,he's in prison, he's getting out.
I was like, I will sitthrough two hours of this court case

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because I think it's bullshit. Heis a he is an army ranger.
Somebody tried to stab him and hejust defended himself. Yeah, and he's
getting seven and again arbitrarily seven years. It just I mean the writing was
they didn't research and yeah, yeah, I would assume too that the and

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then we can move on because Iwould assume too that you know, a
guy that literally just got back eighthours or something before this happened, it's
different than the dude that's been backfor five hours, like he's still readjusting
to some some sense of a normallife. You know that he's still got
twitches or something like that. Youknow, like it seems like leniency.

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Isn't that terrible? Oh? Didanybody wonder like when's the last time the
cage is back in town since hiswife is pregnant? Well that's yeah,
she's not even showing. I was. I was really curious about that.
Maybe I was like, did hedid he come back for leave a couple
of months before he was then done? Because that's maybe that's why those guys

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were So she was not showing atall. So like this was a fairly
new thing, right, yeah,okay, and that's like she was turned
on by him killing those dudes.And then like now they had a quick
in the back. Yeah no,because remember he in the to and put

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his head against her stomach. Baby. Yeah no, like just two months
ago, yeah, real recently.Yeah, maybe she got pregnant and he
was like, oh, I guessI'm done. I don't know, Yeah,
maybe I don't know. Again again, they fast tracked the entire plot
and storyline, so we're you know, when you sit and analyze, you're

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like, well, when's the lasttime you're home? Bro? Because I
mean the hair grew pretty quickly.Oh yeah, that's yeah, that's true
because everything in the jail montage itis him with did he not? I
mean yeah, that's true. Yeahright, so they yeah, they fast
forward like a month later, hehad a foot long do going on.

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Do you not have the greatest hair? Then? Oh it's so long and
curly. Now, I seriously saidon the couch and was like that hair.
No, I mean think about it. That's why it's called conair con
hair. Con air con hair.No, because of all the hair dryers
hair I do seven years in prison, look at my glorious hair con Hair

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and a movie we were gonna watchit. We watched the Tuesday night.
My my daughter asked me, whatare we watching? Conair? And she
and then she pulls you know,she looked at me dead face. It's
like, what was it about hairdryers? No, kidd shit, yep,
it's like, no, it's cold. Yeah, she loved it.

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She loved it. Yeah, shethought was great. But you're right.
Yeah, you know one thing,he's in prison. Yeah. We flashed
forward to like him in prison,not flashboard. We just cut to he's
in prison, letters from his daughter, right prison mom. I didn't notice
on his his prison cell wall hehad like twenty five pictures of cars and

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one picture of his daughter. Iwas like, all right, okay,
I see your priors here in prison. And then his h his cell I'm
not hanging up a picture of mydaughter. Probably no, probably twenty five
cars yea. And his cellmate wasthe dude from We Want to Say Babba.

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Yeah, yeah, Baba. Iwonder what Bubba. They never said
that Bubba was in there for,but he seems so. He was so
likable. You're like, gas,rescue him please. Yeah. He had
diabetes that comes into play later.Yea, that's why. All right,
So I'm want to fast forward becauseI have a big question for you guys.
Not not a big fast forward anyway, excuse me. He gets paroled,

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good behavior, whatever, He's goinghome. Uh my birthdays on the
July fourteenth. My daddy gets releasedon July. Um. His daughter wrote
this letter. He's all happy,I'm gonna get to see him the first
time. But buddy, so he'sgetting parole, he's getting readis but he's
going to take this plane. Yeah, he has to go back to the

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original. Yes, John Cusacks inthis he's a he's the he's smart,
he's in charge of this con Air, this plane. But so he does
this little thing which I thought wascool, where he's reading off every convict
on the plane and he does aquick thing on camera pose uh profile uh

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parole league taking taking the plane.Yeah, hitching a ride, hitching hitching
a ride. All right, here'sthe problem. He was hitching a ride
on conn Air because but he washe was paroled. Where was he going
to Louisiana? Yeah, but inan instant, his wife and kid,

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we're hanging out with John Cusack.Why was he why didn't he just and
why did he go to the prisonso far away from the movies? Right?
There's so many bad, so manythings wrong with this movie. Yeah,
I would rather walk back than toget on a plane with convicts.
Yeah, so, like I'm free, I don't whar's the bus. I
don't want to do four more hours? Right because I don't even like the

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idea that there's six or ether orwhatever they're locked up in those special cages.
If those kids are here, I'mnot there, right, And I
don't have to be here, right, So I don't need free airfare no
US back from California. This madethis point, like why was he taking
the airplane? Like John Cusack?Cusack is clearly still at that prison because
he goes and checks out Cyrus's prisonprison, right, and then he talks

(30:49):
to camera Pose's wife who came intohis office, right, right, So
I was like, how far awaywas cafe? Like how did this happen?
What is up? Why wouldn't deadwoman just drive and pick his ass
up? Geography doesn't make sense ifit? Yeah, something doesn't make doesn't

(31:11):
right, I mean, something doesn'tmake sense in the storytelling. But they
also think like maybe they forgot tojust say, oh, they live in
California or something that. But shewas as if the whole movie ends in
she was in Vegas. I don'tknow what you know, that's true.
They never said where they live.It ends in Las Vegas. And yeah,
after they all the Shenanigans go down, his wife's in Las Vegas.

(31:33):
Yeah, because they were there,right, you know, I actually think
she must have the tardis because she'sable to be everywhere in the movie they
need her to be, right,It doesn't make sense. Yeah, Carson
City is in Nevada, Vada.Yep. So my guess is the whole
thing happened in Nevada. I'm lookingat your map right up here, okay,
because Carson City is up in thenortheast section, I believe. Okay,

(31:59):
So they fly from somewhere up there, they make a pit stop in
Carson City, and then all theshit happens in Vegas. Right. So,
but his wife came to the originalprison to talk to talk to detective
or martial law. That's unexplainable.Which prison was that it's unexplainable? Said,

(32:21):
that's right, right, She wasable to drive to talk to Marshall
Larkin. Right, why didn't shejust go pick up camera? Why would
he get on a plane to goa couple of can't work that far away?
I was like, maybe he leftthe airport, but he beat the
plane. Where she's in Las Vegas? Because skipping ahead, Okay, they

(32:46):
did see her getting her and thedaughter getting off of a helicopter. Okay,
Okay, he was meant the planewas meant for Alabama. It was
Alabama all the way over there?Uh where to take out of? But
how did she get? And saywhere it started? But again Carson City

(33:06):
and right uh Las Vegas or thebig major So they were meant for Alabama.
They were meant for That's a longflight going from Nevada to Alabama,
all right, So I could seewhy he would be like, all right,
I take a plane, but Iwould still how did she get there?
How got there so fast? Yeah? And also unless it's right at

(33:27):
sunset, that plane ride from CarsonCity to Las Vegas wouldn't go from day
to night. No, No,that's a couple hours right at most,
but it needed to be night becauseit was a strip. Yeah. I
was really confused. Last night wewere watching and I was like I'm just
like, wait, where are theysupposed to be in this country? And

(33:49):
where she supposed to be and whyis she in the same location. Now,
I think I would just pay fora regular flight I can see,
would not Cyrus the virus and SteveBushemi and those guys in this that are
gone that that are sent to veryspecific federal prisons throughout the country. No,

(34:10):
because I remember now when when whenhe's talking to what's his face from
Star Trek, Yeah, that isthe DA whatever he was on d Space
time. Sorry Colin. They're they'retalking about this and saying they're transferring all

(34:30):
these criminals, Cyrus and everybody elseto a brand new SuperMac it Max in
Louisiana. Yeah here right, becausethat's when he's given kind of the narrative
of who everybody is on the plane. Then how did his wife get all
the way over there so fast?You know, I'm still proposed by this

(34:51):
plane takeoff and then like hey hereis Yeah, I would walk back to
Alabama before when I'm free and geton a plane with convicts. It was
kind of convicts anyway, because theystill, even though he was free,
they handcuffed him like he was not. Yeah, I'm like it's already.
I'm kind of still in custody.They said he wasn't free until he went

(35:15):
back to his original man, that'sright, one little thing. Yeah,
yeah, no, he had aveteran vegas. Then it doesn't matter.
They're just gonna let him like yeahyeah. And the system didn't car parts

(35:35):
of the movie. I love thesystem didn't care he was a vet when
they put him away, right boyhim. Yeah. Marshall Larkin was like,
look, he's an army ranger.He's on our side. Yeah,
And then then Cameron Poe went intohe almost did you guys see like there
was almost a national treasure moment whenMarshall Larkin found Cyrus the Virus's uh yeah,

(36:05):
the box there was like he foundhis box in his cell but it
had like a last supper with withthings. What do you call that?
We was a code. It's thekey of some sort. Yeah, it's
a key. And then there's amoment cipher just for Ciper and like,
oh man, we got it.And then Cyrus the Virus Uh he's looking

(36:25):
down at uh Steve Buskmi but inframe he's just looking at in frame,
we don't see who's talking to Hesays, I'm like, well, we
wouldn't want to have anything happened toa national treasure. I'm like, oh
my god, if they cut theNick Cage, that's like a wicked inside
joke. But they cut the SteveBuskems character because he killed like thirty people

(36:49):
up the coast coast Yeah. Uh, And they talked because the one,
the one, the one Marshall AirMarshall or whatever it's called. He called
people like, oh yeah, wegot a guy that's been on sixty minutes
a nightline going on these old ships. These guys were kind of like,

(37:09):
what do you got celebrity criminals?Yeah? Yeah, I don't know what
else you'd say. And they wereThey were like the over the top bad
as you could possibly get. Pardiculous. Nah. My first knowledge of Danny
Traio is in this movie he's arapist or whatever. Yeah, because he
raped twenty three Yeah women, heknew the real number they call me,

(37:32):
Johnny. He was he's scary.Yeah, before he became looking in this
character, It's like, shit,that dude is. He's a different kind
of dangerous than everybody else. Yeah, he would definitely, he would definitely
push your nose up through your breadhe's yeah, yeah, I would not
let him do. But in reallife he's like the nicest guy ever from

(37:54):
what I've heard, yeah recently anyways, I don't know about after you meet
him in dark Alley. Yeah,yeah, he's probably a awesome dude.
And it's funny to see it thatnow he's in all these super purposely cheesy
yeah stuff was so much fun.Well is it the one he does?
It's predators and with killing people whoeverthat is you know, it's called like

(38:16):
old man, they're tough guy.Oh, I know, the badass,
badass okay, um, and thoseare cool and those cool moments, but
you forget that dude was terrifying.Nger he is, he's he was a
scary duds terrifying Yeah, right nowand told us to stop podcasts. We
probably stop. I think John Malkovichis scary. Dan Treho, No,

(38:44):
you guys are just god. Youmoved on real fast. We didn't get
to came back. Yeah, JohnMalcovitch just scary. I mean, he's
I love that kind of smart villainthat is, but that's all he please.
Yeah, probably, but he's reallygood at it. He is.

(39:05):
Yeah, started villainser what we gotsteps Gammy is like, I don't know
if they gave him a name.Yeah, he does have a name,
like Leonard something Green. Yeah,yeah, he green, Darling Green.
Did they give him like a likeone of those like they call him the
No, he didn't have a nickname. He was just Garling Okay, but

(39:25):
yeah, but I don't think theycall him that. I don't know.
Yeah, he would kill like thirtypeople. We have Cyrus the virus by
as John Malkovich, who was likekind of the whole leader of this project.
Yeah, thing rames looking like askyscraper, a diamond dog, diamond

(39:47):
dog was diamond dog. Yep,he's huge. It looks like there's a
whole bunch of normal people and likeNicholas Cage is ripped in this movie and
stuff. You get this actually rip, you get the rames like, oh,
that's a different breed of human.Yeah, huge, She's enormous.
Yeah yeah, you know actually,uh, because they had part of the
montage when he was in prison,was Nicholas Cage working out? Oh yeah,

(40:12):
the handstands between reading letters from hisdaughter. He cut to him working
out, Yeah, doing pull ups. Yeah, the upside down handstand one
arm? Was he one arma init? I don't think so, remember,
but that is my favorite thing amovie can do. How strong to
do this montage? Yeah, Iloved it. That's my favorite part of

(40:34):
the movie. Probably, I thought, Nick, I mean he looked great.
Yeah. Yeah. The one thingI saw online was apparently while they
were filming this, he would workout between scenes. Oh you can see
because he gets bigger and bigger asthe movie, keep constantly keeping the is
physique going. Like at the beginningof the movie, he's big. By

(40:58):
the end, he's enormous and youcan see it happened. Yeah, what
happened there? We talked about MandyIt was much. I don't think he
needs to for that one. No, but it's still had been awesome.
Yeah, for sure, that wouldbe would have you know? Yeah,
you know that thing about that likeyeah, Nick, kay, I mean

(41:21):
that was his prime when he waslike at action he was considered like one
of the action stars the nineties,right, Yeah, he was an outstanding
ship. He definitely come in hereand beat the shit out all Yeah.
Yeah, probably, I mean biggerthan Bruce Willis or probably even Kurt Russell.
Ever, was I mean he wasa big dude than Yeah, I
don't know, maybe bigger, yeah, but not a bigger come out Kurt

(41:45):
Russell's star. Yeah. Absolutely.And then we're on a plane. Yeah,
and I talk about Shenanigans like everythingis just leading a disaster. Yeah,
it's just wait too long. No, that's one thing I did like
about the movie. They moved there, didn't know there's there's there's no time

(42:08):
to take like a breath and apause. It is just action beat after
action beat that escalates the ship tothe point of even when he like somehow
hooked that dude's Oh here, here'sthe thing. So the one marshal that
was a dick comb, he wasa d d Why is he even involved

(42:31):
whatever? Whatever? Why the onejust transporting criminals? No, no,
the one transport was like he wasfrom a drug carte. Yeah, and
something fell apart. So John Cusastakes his corvette from the original. Yeah,

(42:52):
here's the thing. Um this That'swhy I'm like, I don't understand
why they even needed a freaking plaint. So they're at the original prison,
call Medy's corvettes there. Uh,he gets a message that they're landing in
h at this one airport in themiddle of the desert. Yeah, and
he needs a plane. There's noplanes. But if you have a really

(43:14):
fast car and get there like underforty five minute, So like, why
did you even need a plane?For half of this flight? They were
going Alabamas? Yeah, yeah,but they were stopping in Carson City first
to unload a couple, pick upa few mores, right, and that's
to Alabama. And that's when thosepeople just should have been driven to the
plane because it was like a twentyminute flight must have been I think he

(43:39):
goten in real time in the movie. Yeah, got there at the same
time they landed in Carson City orwhatever. He got there in that corvette,
yeah, which was under an hour. They could have used a bus,
Yeah, pretty much. I meanhe was going, he was he
was speeding in the Corvette, allright, So it would take him two

(43:59):
hours on the bus. But still, I guess up later since they stopped
other places, and probably if youassume that they can't direct a plane as
effectively as an actual pilot can't,well now it's ridiculous. Yeah, it's
just I might make up for twentyminutes. Yeah, well, I remember

(44:19):
this is before nine to eleven,so they were able to easily enter the
cabin right get to the pilots,which that even though they're armed. And
well, here's the thing. Whydid the belly Why was the belly the
plane armed to the teeth? Idon't know. There was no need.
This was a there should be transport. Why did they have machine guns and

(44:39):
bazukas in the belly of the plane. Obviously we needed it for the later
scene when the convext got a holdof them. Yeah, but they didn't
need I don't Yeah, there's somany things that don't make sense of this
movie, even if it doesn't makeone hundred percent sense. I like when
crazy things happen, they show youwhy that seems reasonable, like them taking

(45:00):
the pins out of their skin andpicking up It's still ridiculous, but I
like the idea that, oh shit, that could actually happen. Probably couldn't,
but I like just having that secondof idea, like, oh,
yeah, that would be terrifying.It wasn't that though. That was awfully
fake looking the prosthetic they put.Yeah, they were pulling those pins out

(45:22):
that looked pretty bad, and allof them. I guess they had time
to practice pickings yeah, lock todo that and just with a little pin,
you know, an inch long.Maybe even in Cyrus's cell where he
had the fake brick where he storedall his maps, he also had that
lunch box that blew the cell up. Yeah, because they said it said
don't open me, and a guydid. But it was full of like

(45:45):
glass files with these liquids mixing anda chimer. Mom where was it getting?
Yeah, this science kit like theycan smuggle anything into prison. Apparently
this prison was a little loose inthere. Oh that's why they were going
to the brand new Superman. Soah, so many yeah, so many

(46:06):
questions. As bad as it was, it was also just as great.
That's the thing is all right,we haven't even really gotten to the plot
yet. But so what the helltime travel? You would say, And
then it ended we're gonna take abreak and we're gonna come back with the
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(46:30):
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(46:57):
all right, con Frick and Airoverall, I did enjoy it.
I have a lot of questions.But before we get to those questions,
we got a message here from Nash. This is his opinion on Connair.
He says, Connairs fill with cheesyone liners, Yeah, cliches and over

(47:22):
the top exposition whenever given it,whenever given the chance or exposition. Yeah,
okay, it's small type. Thefilm puts in the stereotypical characters to
fill its equal opportunity to all,but does this in the worst way and

(47:42):
decide to fill the characters with theabsolute worst versions of each demographic, and
scenes that are meant to be seriouscome off out of place and pointless.
There's not really a lot to say. It's loud, dumb, and Nicolas
Cage, Nicholas Cage's long hair andterrible Southern accent hold on, terrible Southern

(48:06):
accent, passed the realm of badand enter into a new world of dumb.
So I don't think I liked it. Like it. Um, if
if you're going to have something whereit is the worst part of each demographic,
a plain full of convex is probablywhere that's going to come up.

(48:28):
Well, sure, that's probably areasonable spot for them if it's an if
you're if it's a movie where you'rein an office going about your day to
day and it's a comedy and yousee these Southern people that are acting like
shape they were these whatever they're actthat might not make as much sense.
But if they're murderers, I thinkthat that makes sense. Yeah. Sure,
but you know, even at thebar, they were the worst stereotypes

(48:49):
yemes. That's what the story isabout. It's not about people doing good
things or being doing The guys atthe bar didn't even go to they they
didn't go to prison. They werepieces of ship that should have went to
prison. Right know that they didn'tgo to the prison. It's true,
but right uh yeah, I kindof I kind of see the point of

(49:12):
over the top exposition, just asyou do get a lot of background information
about each character. Kind of,I kind of I like that though.
I like knowing that Steve Bushammi's anot I like knowing that ving Rheims isn't
justice. Did you like when theystopped in Carson City and picked up Steve
Busami's character where they had him likein this almost Annibal Cannibal Lecter had to

(49:38):
use these big poles that locked onhis chair pulled him out. Oh my
god. It was kind of likeSuicide Squad. Oh yeah, it was
with them. Oh yeah, notKiller Croc. It was with um shoot,
what's her name, Harley Quinn.I thought they did with that too

(50:01):
krill that real? But I knowshe was like in this big wheelchair and
she had her head um fastened backor whatever. Am I like how I
was like, Hannibal Lecter and yougo with Suicide Squad ones better than the
other? Yeah, a little bit. I tell you, I would watch

(50:23):
Suicide Squad over this one over KonArrogan There, no way, yeah,
I'd rather watch. I really likehow much you know about the bag.
I think that that's something. It'sobviously cheesy, it's obviously so heavy handed
in the one liners and so butagain I think that some of it,

(50:43):
some of my love for is thatwe just don't have movies like this,
any big action movies like this anymore. And I was saying to you guys
earlier that the only action movies wehave are Marvel. I love them.
They're great. I'll still see them. Things like twenty twelve and yeah that
was back in twenty twelve. Whowas the name that was, right?

(51:05):
I thought? So? Yeah,don't forget wherey Harrelson. Yeah, bloody.
I'm excited for the next uh whatyou gonna call it? Zombie movie,
zombie Land. They're filming it now. Wait. I loved it the
first one. That was absolutely Iliked the first one more than Sean of
the Dead, which is usually uh. I like zombieland more than conn Air.

(51:28):
Yeah, I did too. Ithink Zavonland is probably better than Connair,
but I probably like Connair. Moorejust I have a lot of years.
Speaking of Connar and Steve Biskemi,I actually is awful of a character.
He was supposed to be. Hehad some of the best lines Colari,
Oh my gosh, yeah he was. He was funny, even the

(51:52):
where they were playing Swede Home,al Alabama. Yeah, he said the
definition of irony A bunch of redneckslistening to a song by a band who
died in a plane crep right right, that's hilarious. Yeah, and he
don't don't talk to me. Yeah, I'm not your friend. Whatever he

(52:13):
was, but he kept throwing likelittle quips, and I think I think
that's what saves the movie from justbeing stupid and ridiculous, that you have
really good actors in it with himand with Malkovich and thing. Rames is
a really solid actor. It's stillNicholas Cage a couple of years after an
Oscar. Yeah, the accent isn'tgreat or whatever, but he's still a
commanding presence in the movie that youbuy could harm people, you know,

(52:37):
Like, I think that that's whatsaves it is that it's really good actor
and that the pilot um mc gaineyor something like that. Yeah, he's
always great. I love seeing himpop up in these tough guy action movies,
you know, all of them.Put the bunny back in the books.
Out of that dude. Yeah,that was a great In the Belly

(52:59):
of an air Plane, it wasa great fight because over and he did
the same thing again though he startedgetting beat down and then made the comeback
we had he has to. Yeah, that's it, that's his. And
then outside of being Raimes. Nobodyon that plane that's challenging him down.

(53:21):
That fight never happened. No,damn, that would have been good.
But because pulling the plane out ofthat they all have like the ropes and
yeah, pulling out the ditch,I'm pretty sure by himself. Why didn't
need a tractor just strap it tohim and they're running. He's huge,

(53:44):
He's enormous and like there's no definitioneither, you know, it's just a
mountain of a dude on him.Enormous. He's not as big as the
mountain. Well, no, no, right, that guy insanely it's a
giant. Yeah, yeah he is. When their stories told like somebody had

(54:05):
to fight a giant, they werejust fighting six eight or six nine or
something. Yeah, yeah, heprobably it does win those like strong man
competitions, like the strongest man inthe world. Right, he probably doesn't
even resort to the whole one shotkill with the palm of his hand to
one nose. He could just probablysmack And then I was gonna say,

(54:27):
he can put his thumbs in yourice hocks socket. Yeah. Game of
Thrones, Yeah, Game of Thrones, his skull. I have a problem
with that scene too. In gamesimply because the viper was too cocky.
He won, He would have wonwhatever, you know, that's how the
book was too so camera Pon nevergot cocky, you know, That's why

(54:52):
he survived the day. He didn'tshow that dude that there was a god
though. I love that scene withhis with his buddy, doesn't get his
insulin for so long, and hisbuddy that he's been praying the whole time,
and start is that his name?Oh? Is that all he could
do is be called Bubba famous.I was just getting really disappointed in commer

(55:15):
they named him Bubba. I wasabout to not no no. I thought
that I was about to stop defendingthem. But now it's such a great
move and he needs insulin he can'tget it, and I don't know.
I'm just starting to think that I'vebeen praying and maybe there isn't a guy.
And Nick Cage gets up because I'mI'm gonna show you that there is

(55:35):
a guy. He gets shot inthe arm. It's just like whatever it
say, it's ludicrous, it's stupid. I love everything of that, just
like slaps that dude in the face. I love it, love it.
The cross dresser. I love itso much. Now, if you were
in that situation and you were paroledand you could get off from Carson City,
Fuck yeah, would you get evenif I'm dragging Bubba, Well,

(56:00):
I think he was more woman theYeah, because twenty four kept and I
knew he beat down. I'll tellyou though, there was that. There's
that one scene with him and DannyTrey. Hood again is frightening in the
movie, but Nicholas Cage cracks himin the jaws like shit, that would
have hurt. That was a goodyeah. Yeah, that was faith filmed

(56:22):
that pretty well. That was agood shot. When the plane goes down
in Las Vegas and crashes the guardswhen the police are there, so dozens
of people die. Yeah. Yeah, Here's here's the thing. When the
military choppers they're over there, stillover the desert, and the pilot says,

(56:43):
uh, service time take him down. It's now no you know over
here, no casualties. Yeah,there's no way, you're saying, yes,
Yeah, there's no way the militaryis gonna like let this crash land
on the Vegas Strip. They wouldhave shown it down. Yeah, and
it would be unfortunate for camera.Camera still probably shoots on that plane.

(57:07):
Strap of parachute on. I wouldassume there had to be some maybe you
can. I don't know how yougot that message with Cameron Poe or other
cards or whatever else, but there'sjust no way that Cameron Poe was so
important that you're gonna let dozens,if not hundreds of people. Well it's
not just Cameron Poe. It's thecouple cards that were still left. Still.

(57:29):
Yeah, but actually there was onlyone guard at that point, the
woman. Yeah right, everyone elsecars were put off because they needed they
needed so many white guys based onwho's getting off the list, That's right,
it had to be it had tobe white convinced, and they put
why that's why Bubba couldn't get off. Yeah, but there was a sandstorm,

(57:52):
like they could have figured something out. Yeah yeah, yeah, I
mean like nobody on the ground waspaying that bunch attention. Now, I
don't even know they're really checking,like up next to they just scanned the
little barcode and that was everybody hadmass, even the even the guards.
Because there was a sandstorm, likethey could have got Baba off. They

(58:13):
didn't try it. They didn't trythat hard. Now, Yeah, well,
I mean we gotta keep the plotmove with camera's got back. But
yeah, no, I feel likethat's a situation where they would take that
plane down, I would hope.So, yeah, I didn't understand this.
So they have two uh military choppersarmed to the teeth. One has

(58:36):
coal Meny in it, the otherone has John Cusack. Yeah, I
don't think that was cole Mini tellscoal MENI what he's dah. He tells
that guy shoot it, damn Andthen the US Marshal Cusack tell us the
other guy to get in his way, right and like, but these are
both military pilots, like they're nowcompeting against. These are based on the

(58:58):
orders of person in their cock.I would have military orders from higher up,
Like I don't think that that dudeflying the plane is going to listen
to a DA agent to tell themto shoot. Think when the US Army
already like gives you a plane,that there has to be somebody else in
charge. Oh yeah, they're onthe radio saying do I have authorization to
find not not asking mister to belike a general or a higher up,

(59:22):
going like, I don't care whatthe d agent says, because that shoot
that plane. Yeah, man,I don't like heroin either I'm not going
to kill all these people, youknow, solving our problem because they didn't
show it. But yes, landinga plane on the strip in Las Vegas,
no, you're gonna kill a hundredsof people died. They didn't show
it. They had a little jokeabout whoever parked their white corvette. Yeah,

(59:49):
and then it lands right on itpractically Yeah, well no, and
then like, oh, you knowwhat, I'm fast forwarding. I'm sorry.
There's no fast forwards all over.I know, like when they were
on the was that a fire truckthat they were on at the end and
John Malkovich was like he was handcuffedto it and then they went through the

(01:00:10):
walkway, but he like kind offlew off the fire truck before it went
through that. Um, yeah,I don't know how that happened. Well.
And also if you notice when hegoes flying through that part, his
handcuffs are attached to his hand.Yeah, but not the railing of the

(01:00:31):
fire truck. I think it wouldbe the other way around. Why,
Like when if checking out the planeand they're like, oh, this guy's
dead, she's like, oh,maybe he's not, and they pulled his
body away, but his arm wasjust and then his wife is there.

(01:00:51):
Yeah. Yeah, they just flyerto the accident, right to the crash
scene. Much easier for Nick Kyeto get to his wife apparently then to
this time. I guess. Ijust feel like, if he is responsible
for killing that dude at the beginning, which was self defense, he's got
like three hundred counts of murder onthe Vegas someone needs to be hell accountable

(01:01:16):
for those. Yea more than hewas. He's going and why would he
be Why was he put in heyou know, they gave him seven years
because he's a deadly weapon. Whywas he put in weird some weird prison
that he was so far away fromhome? I don't get that. Yeah,
I don't get his prison transfers ismy only guess something. It's still

(01:01:39):
from whatever it was, you know, Yeah, I don't get it.
Yeah. And Steve iss Gemmy's characterhe lived at dan right, Yeah,
he's got a way away. Hewon money. Yeah the last scene he
was playing black or whatever because theone cup. Again, nobody gives a
shit about Andrew happy evidence. Seehe gets away and you're happy about it,

(01:02:02):
you know, But there's that hehe got that little Kendall. Yeah,
from that girl thought he probably killedFrankenstein kind of. But even that
cop comes in, he picks theDoll's like, oh, what a weird
thing to be on a plane.I'm like, nobody cares about evidence and
the crime scene. Everybody's just pickingup that is. Actually one of the

(01:02:23):
happy things that came out of thismovie was that he didn't kill that little
curl because they definitely made you think, oh, yeah, that was yeah,
I do love. One of theother really funny points is when because
she's singing to him and then whenthe plane's going down, he's singing,
you got the whole fuck up man? Like all that stuff. It was

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all wrapped this up plot holes orlike gigantic, you could actually fly through
the plot holes. But it wasa pretty fun time. It's a blast
to watch. That's a great popcornback and don't think about it and watch
even ash. I know you didn'tlike the accent, but I don't know.

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It kind of helps make the movie. You know, when Nicholas Cage
is doing that with his long curlies, it sounded bad. You just know
the movie is meant to not betaken serious, right, It's yeah,
we're having a We're blowing shit up, We're gonna be kookie, and it's

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it's made. It's a summer actionpick the nineties summer. And of those,
I don't know that there are thatmany. The other better. I
don't know that there's that many ninetiessummer action popcorn movie that you say this
is better. A couple of themthat might be like The Rock made the
Rock. The Rock is way better. And I think the Rock like con

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Air better than the Rock. Yeah, okay, I like them both of
It's still a ridiculous plot. It'seven more ridiculous than con No, but
it almost works. It almost seemsmore logical. That is. I like
the ones that well, also NickolasCage that have the humor in there and

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stuff too. Like I like himin the beginning of the Face Off,
you know movie, but him andthat priest costume and swinging his head around
grabbing the girls ass. Yeah,it's hilarious. So what we're gonna do
for the next movie, um iswe're gonna play I guess a game of

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not six degrees but a degree ofYeah. So based on an actor that
was in this movie, we're goingto pick the next movie we watch.
Yeah, so we had Nick Cage, thing Raheims, Steve Scammi, John
Malkovich, Coos, John Cusack yeyep, Dave Chappelle. Dave Chappelle,

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he was only been in what HalfBaked? Yeah, it's okay, we
need to do so let's throw acouple of ideas out based on those actors.
So that's how we'll We'll pick amovie each time based on somebody was
in the movie. We just talkedabout a lot of good movies with John
Cusack. Yep, yeah, youjust mentioned one. Twenty twelve. I

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love twenty twelve. Yeah, wewere talking. You never saw twenty twelve.
There's the movie to do. Holdon, there's a lot, uh
chriss point blank. We mentioned yeah, but if we look at ving Rings,
we got The Dawn One of theDead, that fiction yep, yeah,
Steve scam we got Fargo, wegot right. Isn't Rings in the

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mission impossible movies? Yes? Yes, okay, yea the Dude or whatever,
So let's pick it. It can'tbe. It can't be Nick Cage
dude. No, I think weshould pick another one. Lebowski. Oh
yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, there we go. We
can't pick Nick Cage, right,So it's gonna be one of the other
actors, all right, So ithas to be Thing Raimes, Step Scammi,

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John Cusack or John Malkovich. We'llstick with Leageddon. Oh god,
that's what you never saw. Wow, Letageddon. Let's do Armageddon. Armageddon.
Yeah, it's like my jam isso bad. It's great. Oh
my god, I love it.You think it's so bad? Yeah,

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the plot is just absolutely ridiculous.I disagree with you, Jo, It's
not bad. It's one of thebest movies ever made. I didn't say
it wasn't a bad movie. Isaid the plot is ridiculous. They know
they're dying, right, Yeah.Okay, so we're gonna go like one
degree removed, going with step Scammyand we're going with Armageddon. He's never

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seen Armageddon? Wow wow? Allright, Well on the next time,
it's arm aganddon uh boy. Doyou think we toured these plots apart?
Oh? Yes, I don't evenneed to say they were plot I'll just

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say ben Affleck all right, anyfinal thoughts on Connair, I would just
say that we kind of tore thepart for the ridiculous things. It's obviously
a blast to watch. It's somuch fun. I would still challenge you
to not have fun watching that movie. What would your dad say? Oh

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he loves it? Okay, ohyeah, Oh my gosh, he loves
it. Oh, now that youwould probably be pissed up. We talked
about all the issues so much.I was gonna say now that we if
we start, if we're doing likeone degree to our next movie, you
gotta have a hundred ideas for that. Okay, with it, everybody,
it's in arm again. Get yourYou think your dad would do like a

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well voice message now that he knowsthe movie we're gonna talk about. Yeah,
for sure, he's got to keepit like under like two minutes and
and not call us boobs. Wellunless we do something, we do something
dumb, which is we're doing thearm again. Next. There's a big
star in that movie. It's gonnabe around Christmas time the next time.

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All yeah, that's true movie evermade true story. All right, next
time it's arm again. Wow,Well, wrap this up. It was
fun. Yeah, that movie wasfun. Turn your braid off, enjoy
a good fits, right, andremember Stanley said excelsior. Ye