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ready. Hey friends, Welcome toPunch Farm. I'm Mark, I'm Alicia,
I'm Jeff, I'm Benny. Weare the only podcast that will put
ourselves in a space shuttle, loshyourselves in space, and drill a hole
to blow up an asteroid. That'sright, thank you. Guess we're gonna
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talk about armor again. And Iwould never strap myself into a spaceship for
a mission that is impossible. Yeah, yeah, no, If the world's
gonna end anyway, I live thoselast two weeks to the fullest. Dude,
don't save it, you know,Before we get to that discussion,
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I would love to know what youwould do if you knew there's an asteroid
about to hit planet Earth, Like, what would you do with those last
Well, it would even be twoweeks because the government was keeping this secret
for a little bit. Yeah,it was down to like eight days or
something. Like, yeah, sowe'll go with that eight days. But
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before we get there, remember lasttime we talked about Conner. Yep,
another Nicholas Cage movie, because youknow, Benny joined the ship and he
makes us watch every Knick Cage movieever made. But we had Aaron,
she commented, Uh, she said, catching up on podcasts and dying right
now, listen to you talk aboutConnair ps. I made a Connair joke
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saying put down the bunny at Thanksgiving, and no one got it. Oh
that's a shame. We were playingcatchphrase Chris. Chris also didn't get it.
I thought everyone knew that. Thisis also the movie that made me
love Steve, even though that's weirdbecause he's not in a role you should
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love him. No, but heplays it so well he does. Yeah,
yeah, thank you, Aaron,thanks for listening. And we did
hear from Mickey. He had alot to say. I'll do my best
renit, but it's worth it aswell, try and condense it a little.
As usual, he knows movies morethan you do, he says,
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I'm not even kidding here. Inthe very end of your podcast, I
began typing this boy. You guysare hard asses. Picking apart the plot
holes and con Air is like dotdot dot just as Benny was saying,
I would, I would be pissedthat we talked about the issues so much,
not even kidding. As I wastyping this above, I could hear
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Benny's thought. I could hear Bennythrough my speaker telling telling you just what
I was typing as I was typingit. So here's what I was typing.
Okay, sorry, Mickey, It'sa lot to read on the air,
but I'm gonna try. Boy,you guys are hard asses. Picking
apart the plot holes and conn Airis like moaning that a radioactive spider Bye
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wouldn't give you, wouldn't give anyonepowers. The overlay contrived and convoluted circumstances
that get you to Nick Cage ona plane populated with badasses for him to
go through to get to his wifeand daughter is not what the story movie
is about. We want Nick Cageon the plane populated with bad ass for
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him to go through. I justread that again. Oh, if you
if we have to create an upsidedown world fill with ludicrous situations and nonsensical
circumstances, uh, then get busyand create an upside down world, fill
with ludicrous situations and nonsensical circumstances,and get Nick Cage on that plane.
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All right, We'll all right,I see we're saying, Um, I
have no problem with the radioactive spiderbiting somebody and making a spider man.
That still doesn't explain the poor toolsthey were flying through. I assumed to
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jump to one to the other,because I've also never seen a radioactive spider,
but I assume there are planes fullof convicts somewhere. Yeah, but
it's also the first time I evertried to watch that movie somewhat objectively.
My Cage loving glasses, and yeah, there's some stuff that's hard to get
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through. However, Nicholas Cage beatingup convicts. Of course, not nobody
here didn't love it. I like, I say, is that whatever it
takes to get Nick Cage on thatplane? Yeah? All right, But
he continues, the point being Isee Conair as nearly a comic book movie,
certainly not as exposa on the properprocedures of criminal justice system. I'm
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sorry, Mac, I'm butcher inthis, but yeah, we went to
punk first, Yeah we did.Besides the biggest flaw in the whole scenario,
it seems to me, is thatafter all the precautions and procedures to
ensure the uninterrupted and smooth transfer ofthese high risk criminals, how on earth
would they come to permit someone,let alone someone with a criminal record not
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on their high risk roll, catcha hitch or hitch a ride with them.
All right, So he's saying,like all these precautions, but they
let the cage hitch a ride.Is that what they're saying? Is that
what your dad's referring to him?So I don't know there were other people
there that weren't high risk, thatweren't in the cages. Not that we
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need to review con Air again.As to probably Betty. In my own
favorite scene, namely when cage isadvancing on the bad guy is shot,
it was barely a flinch, justkeeps advancing. Watch John Wayne near the
end of Red River as he movesthrough a herd of cattle who all smartly
step aside for John Wayne heading toMontgomery Cliff. And watch Tom Laughlin in
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Billy Jack as he advances on thepunk who raped his girl. Both are
shot, yet just carry on withtheir deadly business without a pause. So
I guess now I don't have towatch Armageddon to know what you're talking about
next time. And who's an Armageddonthat Benny's talking about being a granddaddy Christmas
movie. M that would be,I wonder talking about die Hard. Yeah,
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so what do you think? Imean, it's hard because only you're
allowed to respond since it's your dad. That's not true. I hear him,
and I largely agree. I meanthat's how I watched the movie before
I tried to watch it objectively,and then once again, once you do,
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it's like shit, there are holesall over the place that I just
never pay attention to it. Like, and I'm one of those. Like
if a song that is playing,I have no idea what the song is
about, I have no clue.So if an actual movie is happenings looking
for guys to get beat up,to see, this isn't a good movie
to be objectionable to. It's tryingto analyze because it is. It's just
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full of plot holes, right,But it's just a great fun movie fun.
You know, your dad had meat uh when he compared it to
a comic bool movie, and itliterally is like it is. Yeah,
I mean, I do accept theoutlandish plots, right, but come on,
Tony Star, you know, assmart as he is, like he
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had such limited resources in the caveand he built a pseudo armor and then
yeah, but we that's true.Hey, I mean, Spider Man is
like the least full of plot holes. Like at least we didn't accept that
a radio ACTI Spider bid him boom. He's got powers, right, but
well, okay, but then hesold sewed sewed the most amazing costume and
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he's not a tailor, so yeah, we could put he's god aunt made
to teach him how to sew.I know, but I like. I
like the idea. I like that, Mickey, thank you so much for
giving a feedback. I like that. I never thought of Conner as a
comic book movie. When you lookat that way, Nick Cage is essentially
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he's a superhero, right, yeah, nothing, he was. He was
unstoppable. Um, I disagree.I don't think it's the comic book.
It's just the good classic eighties andnineties action movie with the hero that's a
badass, okay, because he doesn'thave any superpowers. No, but I
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think may and I don't know thatI super agree or disagree, But I
think that maybe the one thing tohelp the comic book argument is that largely
he doesn't have anybody helping him.He has people on his side, the
Cusack hasn't help helping to defeat thesepeople. It's mostly just Nicholas Cage doing
the whole thing. And I thinkthat that well, but then he would
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almost have to say countless countless otheract comic book. There's nothing wrong with
that. But but Nick cas inthat movie, everybody at definitely in that
one scene, everybody had weapons,were blowing the shit out of stuff.
Then we die they would you say, die Hard is a comic book movie.
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Well, apparently it's a Christmas movieaccording to Bruce willis Man before we
jump into Armageddon, which if Armageddonis not a comic book, yeah,
then no, that's a Michael Baymovie. Back, there's a difference.
I want to throw this out therebecause I'm curious, because it's been weighing
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on my mind a little bit.Um So I sold a domain for one
thousand dollars this week. Yeah,right, there you go. So I
won't throw out what the domain is. Let's just say that it's possible the
people that offered me this money,but he has no idea. But I
have no idea. I'm I'm takinga guess based on the name of the
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domain, taking a guess that it'suh, you know people that make movies
that you know have people that getbit by spiders and make crazy armor.
And so my quandary is like,oh my god. I didn't negotiate.
I just clicked yes, I'll takethat offer. And then I started thinking
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like, oh my god, Ihear they have some money to spend.
Speculating based on the name of thedomain. I saw that, like,
holy crap, at what probably wasthis company? Who else would want that
domain? Right? Like I saidat the bar, because he does.
Stop because you're gonna beat yourself upover this. You can't forever. You
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just need to stop. I shouldhave went back, definitely at least asked
for double and if it's the whoelse would want I'm not gonna give up
the name of the domain because I'mstill in negotation. Well not in negotiation.
I click yes, I'll take thatright now. I clicked that big
button. I definitely should have wentback and she had said like five k,
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yep, hey, it's still it'sstill amazing. I never thought in
a bazillion years that somebody would evenoffer on a domain I bought because I
was gonna make a podcast. Yeah, that's all it was. It wasn't
like the name was like. Itwasn't one of those squatters that buy a
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bunch of domains and just try tosell something to sell. Legitimately bought it
for a reason. Then you know, it just didn't come to fruition because
time you get busy things happening.I just know that a couple of months
from now, I'm gonna look upthat domain and be like, mother,
from there. I should have Ishould have said a zero, it's gonna
take that long, now, that'swhat I was saying. I would say,
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once the deal happens, I giveit a week. Yeah, damn
it. I hear they have alot of people over there as well.
I was still saying, it's afortunate you know, deely towards the family.
But I'm like, dang it,yeah, my mansion would be cool
till I don't think they paid thedomain was worth that much. I just
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want to throw I'm still possessing processingthat anybody wants to pay any money for
a domain. This is a webdomain. Go figure out, have your
marketing team come up with a cleveridea. Don't pay whatever. No,
that's a problem if you're this saidcompany that I won't name the name of.
Yeah, don't listen to me.No offer offered me that money.
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That's yeah. So that was mycrazy week. Never a million years,
but I thought that would happen,all right, So I can't wait to
see what that domain turns into becauseI'm going to kick myself right in the
butt. Yeah. At least you'llprobably be a consumer of that domain.
Every time I buy something from thatdomain, I'd be like, you're an
asshole away from a thousand dollars.Right, in three years, you'll have
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a thousand dollars into that domain.Well oh yeah, yeah, they got
me hook line sinker, son ofa gun. Speaking of son of a
guns, Bruce willis boy who hadan amazing hairpiece in the movie We're gonna
talk about Tonight Armageddon and it wasbond. Yeah. Why was it even
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necessary? We don't know he hada hairpiece? Yeah, oh yeah,
honey, you think, oh yeah, oh for sure. It didn't seem
like oh he because he was baldbefore this movie. Oh, he's been
bald and then haired and bald andhair good. I'm not. I don't
even notice the eleven years before significantlylast thing was in this. So when
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you're pitching this movie, like,so, look, an asteroid's coming for
okay, because that's all right,that's really gonna happen. I'm in,
I'm in. I'm asked for thesize of Texas. That's a global killer.
We call that a global killer.Like if I'm I'm in the pitch
medium like okay, okay, that'strue to life. It's gonna be a
very same typic movie. This isawesome. I'm in, um so.
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But to save the world, we'regonna get a bunch of oil rig what
do you call those roughnecks? Roughneckstoo in it? And what eight days?
Train them to be astronauts? Shootthem up. They're gonna drill a
holeless asteroid and save the earth.And then somebody said, boom, here's
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two hundred million dollars make that movie. Because it got made. I think
what happened was they went to aroom and said, how many how many
different issues can you come up with? How many different kinds of problems can
you come up with? And thenthey came up with an astrot so can
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this break in this way? Canthis happen? Can this? And then
they came up with the movie Beyond. Just a lot of bad things happened.
There's a lot of misfortune. Islike Bunkers. Oh yes, it
was all over the place, Armageddonstarting, Bruce Willis, bad affleck Stephen
Scammy thing rains rains, Yeah notdid we just watch some of the things
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impossible? I'm sorry being rains,But you're in a lot of movies too,
so yeah, so you're also amountain of a man. They both
can destroy me. Um, goingback to his hairpiece real quick, the
same year. Um, he wasin the Fifth Element. So think of
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his hair in the Fifth Element.It was the same? Was it the
same? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, So I think he did it up
for multiple movies. Okay, soI thought he looked he had a wig
for multiple movies, or he grewhis hair, like was he actually bald
or was he just shaving his headbecause he wanted to know he had hair
back then? That was ninety seven, ninety eight, Okay, I don't
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okay, yeah, because I knewlike another movie Duncan. Yeah, oh
we also had Owen Wilson. Wehad who was a dude chick. He
was big, but he's been othermovies. Yeah, I can't think of
his name. Oh, hold on, I'll get there, Billy, Bob
Thornton. It's will Well Pat Yeah, I knew I got will Yeah.
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So a pretty oh liv Tyler soa pretty stack cast, right, Max
Ohnfleck coming off of his good Willhunting fame Yeah, I'd like to say
it's coming off of his Kevin Smithmovie famell. Yeah, that's what I
care more about. Yeah. Themovie literally opens up on the oil rig.
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Bruce Willis is hitting golf balls ata green piece chip Yeah, which
actually was funny, was a funnyjoke because he made a joke about like
do you know how much diesel foolburning? And that boat the protest might
Rick. I'm like, like that'spretty funny. But it literally went bonkers
just because Ben Affleck, who wasboning his daughter, he starts literally shooting
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twelve gay shotgun at Ben Affleck.Yeah, and it that's, to me,
is the setup of how outrageous they'regoing to be. At least it
was on the boat where nothing isflammable though, right, right, and
as his crew follows as he's shootingat ben Affleck, his crews following around
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trying to talk him out of it. But it's time at the same time
give us a little bit of backstoryon things. It's it's utterly ridiculous.
Uh, And I'm not sure,like, was ben Affleck at it like
his worst of his acting ability orat the best ability for the movie he
was, Yeah, you know,I don't know. And I thought because
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his character, because he became Batman, he's a challenge for me in that
movie. Like he was the hardestpart of that movie for me. And
I think that that's because of whereben Affleck was at that, Like that
character was written for him to bethe brash young kid that was better than
other people of other things, butcocky. So you don't like it all
this kind of stuff. I'm like, oh, man, because once you
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watch him go in and out ofthat, and he's done a bunch of
good movies ten or fifteen years afterthat, you're like, man, but
you were you sucked them They're devilwhere you sucked him this and yeah,
Armageddon, but you could see thetrajectory word for Harry Yeah right, yeah,
right. Wow. What if youcould have gone back in time and
replace Ben Affleck with Matt Damon andArmageddon. Yeah, no, it doesn't
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work. I'd probably take Affleck.Yeah, so that's our introduction these characters.
But it doesn't take long. Literally, this movie is like you are
a full steam ahead for the nexttwo and ten minutes something like that.
Like there is no there literally isno. The only pause or breathing room
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is when Ben Affleck's putting animal crackerson lift Tyler's. Yeah. Yeah,
this movie is like full steam ahead, and I think, I think I
really like that. Oh for sure. There's no breaks. It doesn't slow
down. One of my favorite scenesis one that dude's looking through his telescope.
Uh, this is this guy.I don't know where he's living.
He's living out in Arizona. Yeah, something like that. Um, he's
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got apparently a telescope better than NASAthat he sees this asteroid. He's just
looking in the right spot. Yeah, that's the thing. There's a lot
of space to look at. Didn'tthey say that in the movie, Yeah,
because like, yeah, they yeah, we only look the space.
Yeah. So yeah, get mybook, woman, get the book,
Get the book. Get the bookand he named an Asteroid's like, I
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want to name an asteroid after mywife because she's a yeah, she's a
soul sucking bitch or something like that. Because this asteroid is the asteroid is
head and this is a real thing, Like there's asteroids. Their alty has
been asteroids that the NASA has monitored. They're like, oh shit, oh
shit, okay, yeah, it'sokay, Like it's it happens on a
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regular basis. The global killer iscoming our way eventually, and what will
we do. I don't know.Send rough knacks up the hole, which
is the I don't forget. Yeah, I don't think that that's what I'm
die. That scene where he's screaming, get the book, get the book.
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I just looked over at my wife. It's Game of Thrones. Hold
the door, Hold the door.Still still absolutely, I'm still into the
movie at this time. I gottasay I like the movie for what it
is. Yeah, the pole seewith kan Air where we were where I
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was like pointing out the potholes.It's so hard to point out potholes in
something that's so utterly outrageous and fantastical, right that you can't like. But
I want to believe. I wantto believe in this movie. Yeah.
Actually, I'm just gonna sit back, go ahead. This is probably,
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if not the favorite, one ofthe favorites. Okay, um, I
love this movie. I watched itat least once a year. Okay um,
I want to believe in this movie. I know that scientifically, Um,
it's not possible. I get it. There's been so many things that
have come out about this movie,and like everybody need to come out we're
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actually like trying to see scientifically.I'm pretty sure like NASA came out with
something about it. Yeah, thisis all bullshit. Yeah, the actor
have There's been quite a few theyare like this movie. I hated that
I was in this movie, andI just I'm like, I'm sure that,
well, ten million dollars for thismovie. Just keep that and shut
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up. Yeah, shut you know. Actually that's probably why anybody had to
say anything, because when the moviemakes as much money as it did.
True, so say three or fourhundred million people probably saw it, and
when that came out, it onlytakes five thousand of those three or four
hundred million to call it throw ahissy fit and say the world's gonna end
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if this aster so for NASA justsay shut up happened. This isn't how
we would handle it. Bruce Williswill not go on to an asteroid.
That's not even exactly how asteroids work. The fact, like, the whole
premise is this the size of tethis asteroid, the size of Texas is
coming. And what NASA comes upwith is like, literally, if we
land a shuttle on this asteroid,drill a hole eight hundred feet, it
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has to be eight hundred Well,because I tell you when they hit when
they were still drilling, they hitlike seven ninety five, Like that's definitely
close enough. Yeah, I don'tthink that's gonna ruin it. But they
had to get eight hundred Yeah,because that he always reaches mom, because
it's Bruce Willis. Yeah, itwas literally gonna split it into and there's
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two chunks the size of Texas wouldfly we go around, Yes, planet
Earth. Isn't that the dumbest itis? That was a challenge, love
it. Yeah, that was thefirst challenge. I gotta admit, when
you're watching, you're like, allright, yeah, let's do this.
That that part I felt to mewas I felt like they could have said
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anything like it will just bust intoit. If you go eight hundred feet,
it will bust into a million pieces, million pieces separate, won't do
any damage when it split it intwo. I think it in two to
go around the earth is a littlewhere how you would think that, like
some of the chunks uh devastated Chinain Paris. Yes, don't you think
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when you blow up an asteroid,even you split in half, there's gonna
be giant chunk, there's gonna bebrie. I still think decimated. Yeah,
you know it is hard now withjust how culture is today and you
know that the world is smaller eventhan it was twenty years ago or whatever.
That like, it is kind ofa chat. And Independence Day is
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the same kind of thing where shis happening all over the world and I
love Independence Day. Yeah that's anothergreat love Independence Day. But like you
know this, it's another favorite movie. Shit happens in Paris or whatever an
arm again and then you're not sad, Oh does it in that kind of
way? We're like, oh,at least Houston is fine. Oh my,
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I've been hot. But at leastin the movie, the first major
chunk of the asteroid decimate said,New York or something Asia somewhere, and
then Paris. Yeah, then newYork, New York was second. New
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York was first, but it wasmy remember, because that guy had a
little They had a little joke aboutguys. The New York only got a
few little shots. But then theydecimate the China. Yeah, whatever wherever,
and yeah, you're right, you'relike and then Paris, No,
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not at all, but you're like, the whole thing's about I have as
much of a chance to go,Wilson says it. This is deep blue
hero stuff. Right, I'm probablymore likely actually to go to Paris at
some point in my life than Houston. Why would I ever decide to go
to Houston? At least Paris isa different country, bearing something different Texas,
Sure, I don't play. I'llnever going the time like Texas.
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It was freaking awest just picking outdifferent cities like Houston wouldn't jump off the
page as much as Paris does.But like, right, you feel like,
oh shit, at least Houston's okay. New Orleans, Oh my gosh,
I'm happy, very fine. Yeah, have you been shippy? New
Orleans? Oh you don't want togo to New Orleans? That's just too
much for me. I think like, I think that there were probably phases
of my life and I might haveanother one that Wait till you seem like
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that's a lot of Texas. Itwas a freaking blast. Yeah, wait
till you get a little older andthe kids are gone. You're thinking,
thinks that'd be awesome, right right. I think that would be too crazy.
I feel like there's just too many. I'd never guy with my oath.
I would just lose my lad Yeah. Yeah, too much. Yeah,
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so you're like offen asteroid hits Parisknock them out. Yeah. The
for me, one of the thingsthat I had to laugh about. We
were watching this and I had tolaugh very often with it with a giant
smile because I do what I've said, lish she loves this movie. But
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I felt like what they say,like it's called like eighteen days, mister,
mister president, eighteen days is gonnawe call this a global killer.
Uh, and we're left in theb h. But so they have all
this time to go recruit Harry.So they get Harry. So he tells
him like, I can't do this. He makes fun of the astronauts.
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Yeah, he makes fun of theirdrilling rigs. The only way I'm gonna
save planet Earth is if I getmy crew and we waste what another day
or two A couple of why theFBI is just finding them, And however
a couple of these guys are runningfrom the FBI. Why. I don't
why. However, I love agood roundup scene. That is good.
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I mean, but there they gofrom being on the rig to thirty different
cities across the country. And that'swhat they made believe like once these guys
get off the rig, they thatwas aside from Steve Bushmi's I was about
to say, question beyond questionable behaviorright that, Yeah, that wasn't super
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necessary, but beyond that, Yeah, it's just a great fun round seeing
all these Wilson like and when theywere when they were telling the FBI agent
says, they did just like monologueover top of the cat scenes like he
owns a he's like a super wickedsmart biologist, he owns a rant.
So why is he running away onhis horse. I don't think he's I
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don't think he's I think he's justriding and you're coming the helicopters. Sell,
I don't think I mean bear Bearwas definitely, but why because he's
a badass and he probably has acriminal record. He's always a big dude.
Yeah Clark Duncan and this movie wasoh he was talking, he's grud
yeah. Oh yeah, like buthe's also great even though that scene where
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it was he was oh, becausethey had a whole psychiatrist scene. He
was great, and Steve Ascammy wasgreat ad scene, but it didn't seem
like the character they led us tobelieve he was. I think it did
up until then. I was like, this is like he's basically he keeps
saying things like Harry, I didn'tknow how old she was. They made
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him out to be a giant pedophileright from the Yeah I read online that
actually they had he was kind oflike a different They wrote a different character.
He wasn't supposed to be signed infor this movie, um, because
he's always played these like uh sleazy, yeah, sleazy characters. Once he
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signed on, they changed his characterto that, or at least added obviously
funny because he is good at thatbecause obviously con hare that we talked about
where he's a great. But Ijust saw clips of Fargo the other day
too. I've seen one hundred time. But when he gets shot at the
end of Argo, you have nocompassion for him, Like he's even more
disgusting, Like now he's in painin the ways whole, he's just even
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grosser than he was. He wasactually really excited to do this film because
he thought he was going to doa different character, be a hero.
Yeah, he thought he was goingto be a hero at rewrote it for
what he's been typecasting. Because howmany times did he say I didn't know
how he was at least five?Yeah it was. It was a little
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more times than he didn't know howold. Yeah. Really, what I
did think great about his character wentbecause he was definitely convinced, like this
is not going to work. Yeah, we're all dead. So he went
to a loan shark and took outone hundred thousand dollars yep um that he
went and spent at the strip clublike sixty So, I mean, I
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don't know how long I got topay it back, but literally he had
to pay back one hundred and sixtythousand dollars. Yeah, not more.
Yeah, but I'm hoping there waslike a grace period, like if you
don't pay it back in a month, it's sixty percent. I imagine,
what the shark regardless, you're payingback one hundred and sixty right minus that
doesn't include I like the fact he'slike, we're not we're all dead.
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So I'm gonna like have an excellenttime before I strapped myself to a rocket.
Yeah, now you did not likethe strip club scene. No,
I've never liked it. I don'tknow why, but it's always No.
I don't think it's they weren't evennaked. No, what the hell?
No, I don't know what itis about that scene, but um,
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that's the one scene that I actuallydon't like in the Stone. Yeah,
I don't you know that they instantlygo to I'm an astronaut, I can
do whatever I want, I'm abovethe law, all kind of stuff like.
That's a little annoying. Well,and also some of the I'm an
astronaut, let me out of here. But they were kind of build up
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to that too, because in thatscene before then, that's what. Yeah,
that's when they were making all theirdemands, one of which is we're
never gonna pay taxes on anything,which a great demand. It I'm gonna
shoot up into space and save theearth. Yeah, I don't pay tax.
That was actually one of my favoriteparts of the movie because like,
I would never I would ask forI would never think no dumb that.
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Yeah, that's pretty bitch. That'swhy I wouldn't. Even though Steve they
came back and Steve survived, hestill owes one hundred and sixty thousand large
yea to the VIC. I mean, obviously we got that. We'll pay
that back. I'm sure if wedon't just kill the VIC for you,
don't worry about it. We gotI mean they had to come up right
at the very end of the movie. He even comments about that. Oh
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yeah, I don't remember, hesays, I owe one hundred thousand.
Yeah. Oh, that's why hewon this. Yeah, that's why he
wanted to be the one that staybehind yea right, yeah, but he
did get the stripper was in lovewith him at the end. Yeah,
we'll get there because he was ahero. Now. I wanted to say
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this, but I was talked over. Um oh, that's not the strip
club scene. I think. Whatalso bothers me is that they were given
a date away from the facility togo stay goodbye to friends and family and
things like that and they decided togo to a strip club. And I
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think that's what bothers me because Idon't think Steve if he doesn't have a
family, No, that's fine,because Willis didn't. Right, some of
these other characters though, they hadfamily and they decided to go to a
strip club instead. That that brokeme nut. Not true because Bruce didn't.
And where did ben Affleck go?He went off to his little shitty
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shack. Yeah, and that's wherewe get the most stupid, horrible Well
they said they did, so he'sdoing like an animal crack Rippli or something.
Didn't they don't recall something about someof the astronauts, so that ben
Affleck was so young once he joined, like something about he didn't have a
family, that they've known each otherfor decades or something. But yes,
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that scene is the cringest thing.I think Bruce Willis took like he was
basically his father anyway, right right? Oh, absolutely, so his family
was lib tyler um. But someof these other characters they actually did have
family. That's what I'm trying tosay. That's what bothered me, I
think the most. Yeah, butchick, he went and took a little
space shuttle to his kid. Yeah, I know. I'm talking about the
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ones that actually went to the club. The big fat guy he had Max,
Yeah, Max, Yeah he hashis mom because he just got his
loving Mama tattoo. Yeah. Butlike, if you're gonna get before you
die, you're gonna go back homeand hang with your mama. You're gonna
go out with the with the astronautsand to the strip club. I would
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go out to the strip club.I don't know. I'd want to go
see to buy my mom. Butit might be the last night on Earth
where I got the party. Itmight not be, and it might not
be. They might have just editedthat scene. He might have called her
said Mama, love you, andshe's like, I know that because he's
got a tattoo. I just sata tattoo. Yeah. They probably already
had a goodbye when they left thefirst time, not knowing that this day
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would come right. I imagine withMax, when the FBI were taking him
out, he probably thought, well, I don't know if I ever see
again, mama. It sounds likethree dudes trying to tell you that going
to a strip club it's a goodidea. Guys. Hey, look if
I ever have to go up intospace, I'll just take you to the
strip club with me before we blastoff. Okay, fair put in there
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somewhere. No, I don't know. That was better than watching Ben Affleck
do animal crackers, not the grazeson the planes or whatever sound like petic
or bullshit. Yeah, like allthe dialogue, the whole thing, the
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super fake sunset, all of thatkind of terrible. And that's where that
was not Michael Bay directing. Thatwas his mentor directing this movie. So
you can see where Michael Bay gotthese cheesy as his mentor. Uh,
Jerry Romer, Yeah, I guessthat makes sense. I mean it looked
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good, like no visually on screen, you know, like it looks cool,
but it was I bet at thetime it probably did. But you're
just you're since this is the firsttime I saw the movie, I can't
look at it in nineteen ninety eightor whatever. So so it's just like
in Connair or whatever, the badeffects that exist in Connair I can look
at because apparently. Okay, soI want to I want to say,
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as a female, the scene withBen Affleck and Live Tyler with the animal
crackers, I found that more endearingthan the strip club scene. Okay,
I actually I would rather watch thatthan the strip club scene. But what
I'm trying to say is like,but you probably have a better chance of
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that than getting her to take herto a strip club. I don't know
about that, Bros. I've beento something. But what I'm trying to
say is like, I felt likethat scene made me like, Okay,
this is what he even says itin the film. This is what they're
they're doing this for, you know, for these these moments in life where
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well, yeah, I'm with you, but you're making I know again,
That's what happens when you have amovie that makes hundreds and hundreds of millions
dollars, though that is made,you make a movie for everyone. There's
going to be a scene that youhate. There's gonna be a scene that
I hate, and then you cutthat. We all come together and say,
yeah, it's a lot of fun. Yeah, but there's going to
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be different parts that everybody. Well, the original mood when they wrote it,
the whole love story didn't exist.That was added in because after Titanic
probably yeah, no, that's thatis that's that's what they said. I
don't think you need a love storyin this like this, like the love
story is like I love the factthat you guys are going to risk your
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life to save the plan. Yeahyeah, now speaking of that, uh,
these guys shooting themselves into rockets whenthey do get which is a very
propositous, it's very crazy scheme theyhave. Sorry, I couldn't get that
other word out of it, Sowe'll go with crazy sling shot around the
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moon and then coming up behind theasteroid and landing on this thing that is
screaming I don't know how many hundredsof thousand towards Earth it is preposteroate.
It is crazy. Sorry, thankyou. Yeah, it just it was
so crazy. But again, whenit's so crazy, you're in Yeah,
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like it was intense. Here's here'sthe thing about once they it was all
crazy them trained to be astronauts thenall. But once they get shot into
space, it is one action setpiece after another. Yea, and they're
trying to top each one. Sowhere I was watching the movie, like,
Okay, it shouldn't actually be simpleto dock at the Russian space station
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refuel, not with a crazy cosmonautinside. That's right. But now so
now we got a fuel line issueand that ship blows up. I'm like,
that is a movie all by itselfwhere astronauts are dock in space.
Yeah, it was called gravity.Okay. That was just like a couple
of minutes of like a holy shit, yeah that doesn't and then after after
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that, once you're in space,it is just like, this goes wrong.
How can they keep topping each other? Yea, and it's everything's wrong.
Oh and we were talking there's notime to rest a space when that
when the gas the rocket fuel blewup, they really did ignite some kind
of giant fireball behind ben Affleck whenthey did that. That's why it hates
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this movie. Yeah, that's oneof them. What was when they when
when Ben Affleck and that group wereescaping from their shuttle or whatever what they
say, it was like negative twohundred degrees or something like that. He's
just not breathing. Isn't enough,right? I know, I know,
but listen, this movie is notscientifically whatsoever. But it's super sure.
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I just heard that. I forgetwho told me this, and I don't
know if it's accurate. Maybe haveto look us up. Somebody said that
it stinks in space. I've heardthat too. How would you know that?
If you that's what I want toknow. But the astronauts wouldn't know.
They would be able to figure itout. It's like the you know,
when they have the space shuttle andthey close it up and re put
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air back in, it has areal bad od or two? Is it
all the farts coming to Earth?There you go? Yeah, I never
I would never think because you,yes, in space. Yeah, supposedly
it's you fart. Oh isn't thatinteresting? It smells like farts in space?
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Yeah, I mean, I meanit might not. Farts might be
the road word. But hey,yeah, supposedly it stinks in space.
I did not know that. Soit stinks inside your shuttle in a loft.
It's just like being in Lancaster Countywhen you open your front door after
you've been spreading manure in the field. Yeah, your half smells like.
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That's how it is in space,whereas yep, we're in space. They
have it up a bay door.I mean, I guess space Max that
Max and Steve Bushmi don't look likethey smell great noy, so you think
it might just be the b justbe it might just be from this movie.
Do you think we're getting hooked upto the space suit? Do they
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like pop a thing onto your dick? Yes, they did. You get
a cafeter and get like a littlething. Well, yeah, the right
stuff if anyone's ever seen that.So Scott Glenn played Alan Shepard, the
first guy, the first American thatwent up in space. And that was
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the whole It was delayed because itwas so early on that they're looking at
clouds and ship going then like notknow, he was sitting there for how
long, like thirty six out likeyeah, crazy long amount of time.
He had to piss himself multiple times. So after they didn't have anything,
so he just pissed it. Hejust pissed himself yep in the space suit.
Yeah yeah. So they wear diapersand they have cafeters. Yeah yeah,
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man, they got to come upwith something better, like well,
such a I'm sure they do bynow. It's like two diaper. What
what I saw is like it's twoso you have one diaper on cather coming
out of your dick or vagina,I guess whatever you got going on,
but and then that going into likeanother diaper. But like it's and then
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they recycle that and you drink itlater in the space station, right in
the space in the space station,they do, but I don't think they
do on Shuttle missions. Right.You shouldn't need to, right because you're
not out there for months at atime. You're only up there for like
two weeks or something. Awful.Yeah, sounded because like there's got I
mean, come on, like thecaather to means it goes in the end
(44:37):
of your thing and you up andyou never had I've never had a you,
Yes, I have awful they putit. No, they put Normally
(44:58):
they put it in when you're knockedout for surgery because I imagine being sober,
you don't do that. But whenthey take it out, you're awake.
And after I had surgery, theyhad to take it out. The
nurse just came over. It's like, take a deep breath. I felt
that all the way down to yourYes, every inch of my body.
(45:21):
You felt that coming out. Itwas not you could probably feel it just
thinking about it. Yeah, yeah, I got shivers down there. Yeah.
Huh. So being an astronaut,obviously it's not easy. No,
so when you're when you're not eventrained and you got eight Days to be
an Astronaut, Yeah right, getready for it? Yet they were so
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good at it. Like literally,it's so hard because I really loved watching
the movie and that's fun. Butand I almost hesitated to even want to
talk about it because I had funwatching time Every time about it, it's
like what did I watch? Whathap? Now? It was just too
good. There's so many great partsto it. Yeah, you know what
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I think though, And I think, like again, me watching it for
the first time, like, Iwonder if some of like that because I
only have largely only have positive thingsto say, but I wonder if there's
like a slight negative tinge to it, just because it's it's the peak of
that eighties nineties gluttonous action kind.Yeah, it's so there's so many things
that go wrong, there's so manydifferent heroes, there's so many different times.
(46:29):
Like I wonder if it's just likebecause it it's not movies aren't quite
made like that. That's especially littlebit like you look at Michael Bay's Transformers,
yeah, but not a disaster movie. Yeah. And I feel like
in the past couple of years,the disaster movies that came out weren't necessarily.
Scott Scraper was terrible. Yeah,that one was bad. I know,
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Sorry, Dwayne, Sorry scene InjuriousAnd much like I feel like a
lot of these films, they're notnecessarily. I feel like I don't put
them on the same level as Armageddon, but they're still pretty good. Yeah,
Day after Tomorrow Deep I loved DayAfter Tomorrow. Deep Impact came out
(47:15):
the same year, almost the sametime and the same premise, and I
can't remember because Armageddon overshadowed. Ohabsolutely it did. But Deep Impact was
a different movie, more scientific.It was a drama more than an action
movie, and I love I thinkDeep Impacts a fantastic movie. I love
that movie too. But it's again, it's almost like comparing apples and orangins
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because it's an action movie with Armageddonversus a drama with Deep Impact. Yeah.
Man, okay, so I gottawatch it again. So you're you're
saying it's a drama. I alwaysthought it was an action movie. I
think dude action a little bit morethinking man's action. Now I call that
drama boom action. Okay. Interesting. Well, I'll tell you what.
(48:01):
I have a couple of questions whenit comes to Armagadon and the fields just
curious would have any emotional impact ifyou had to fan your eyes from crying
because the entire movie for list.So we're gonna take a break, get
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Oh that darned record button. That'salways a problem. Um. I wanted
to bring up the movie throws in, Hey, we're talking about Armageddon.
If that break was too long foryou, it wasn't. The movie definitely
has a couple of moments where itwants you to really really give a shit,
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And there was a couple of timesI felt like I might just tear
up. One was chick I think, yeah, because before he was he
did not go to the strip club. Now he wanted to take a little
shuttle, a little little model ofa shuttle to his kid. Uh and
(49:34):
and his ex wife was like,you're not allowed to be here. Yeah.
She based was like, that's asalesman to her, to her little
kid. And then once she seesthe heroic thing he did on the television,
the salesman TV, that's not asalesman, that's your daddy. But
in that moment where he was givingthat to his kid and he because he
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didn't think he was coming back.Yeah, I was like, you know,
as a dad, that got mea little bit. Yeah, I'm
feeling more. I'm feeling it morenow here and you talk about your dad
and right, and that's the wholething. And I think, like,
because I knew so much about themovie before watching him for the first time,
I knew that those tear jerking momentswere there, so I just kept
(50:21):
waiting for them. Then slay Meand the hammer and that never happened.
But right, oh, stepping awayfrom m and hearing it, yeah,
that's pretty tough. Yeah, challenge, especially since he went to say something
to his kid and he just gotbombarded by his ex wife. Yeah,
he didn't get a chance to Imean, what do you say, And
because what we see of him isthat of that crew, he's kind of
(50:45):
like the good dude. Like BruceWillis is still probably a maniac. All
the other ones all other and Iimagine that's why his wife dumped his ass,
because he was blowing off. Youcan see that. Yeah, well
yeah that could. All the otherones are living like lavish lifestyles. That
was a shit neighborhood that he droveup to. Yeah, good visit this
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kid. Yeah, but that thattouched me a little bit. And they
do it with like they have thismusic over top of it. Yeah.
Even when at the end when allall the families again like in Conners,
somehow are able to show up inHouston, all the landing pad, Yeah,
the strips shows up. It's like, yeah, I know they probably
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did go through security. They werelike, hey, I'm so and so
the stripper, well that one,yeah, the lady with chicks, wife
and kid. Yeah. Yeah.What about think about when Bruce Willis being
the goat that he is goat greatestof all time. He uh, he
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decides that he's going to stay behind. Yeah, he tricks Ben Affleck because
Ben Affleck drew the short straw yep. Where do you get straws in space?
I don't know's got everything in thatshuttle. It's just I know I
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was don't think about it. Ithought because like like I thought, oh,
because they're going to find out thatthey don't have straws. But no,
not only do that, they havea variety of colors. Why would
they have cocktail straws in space?You never know? It's NASA, Yeah,
(52:37):
it's NASA, but they but yeah, Ben draws the short one.
But as they go down, becausethere they got a little speech gone.
Why do you think they didn't letSteve BUSHEMI do it? Like? Do
you think they just thought he wasbecause he was yeah, that space dementia.
He wanted to stay behind it.Probably yeah, he probably couldn't have
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hit the acting and stuff. Buthe was just so wacky. Let me
ask you this, because when hewent wacky, he discovered there was a
machine gun, yeah, that hestrapped in it. Who brings the machine
gun to space? But he justwho brings a gun to space? Oh
that's right. NASA is like,Look, NASA stands for We're always prepared,
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But that's not what it means,is NASA? Yeah? I mean
I suppose you never know what you'regoing to find on the asteroid. Oh,
come on, they have the giantmachine guns on the armor dillos.
That's because NASAs NASA noses aliens whenthey're in space or like the machine guns.
Okay, because there's aliens. Well, Ben Affleck uses the machine gun
on the armor dillo when they haveto shoot. Yea, here's how we're
(53:45):
do it in America. Yeah,here's how you do it America. Get
that weird? Yeah? I likehow like he be scammy just randomly discovers
like have you guys seen the machinemounted side of you? But he starts
(54:09):
shooting at the everybody and everything.Yeah, he actually really does. His
His mistake causes them to be unfocused. Yep. And when they're drilling,
they hit a pocket of gas.Yeah, and then Max there goes Max.
Lots of people die. Well thefirst Max, Yeah, that's what
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that's what he says. What wasthe other one in the Independent? Independent?
One of them? I can't wasit the Independence that went down?
But yeah, Ben Affleck survived almostfrom the get go at one time.
Yeah, they went down pretty quick. It was Ben Affleck. Um Michael
Clunk darkn clunk darken. Has anybodysaid it right tonight now? But he
(54:59):
restipes because he passed away, right, Yeah, that's a shame. Sorry,
we can't get your name right,I know, and um, don't
don't haunt us, but haunt Jeff. It's the Russian guy white that's a
strong hates a strong word. Everymovie that Russian guy has been in.
I just he's the comic relief ona comedy movie. Yeah, he was
(55:23):
kind of the comic relief one thathe's been in. I literally just want
to he like Bad Boys too.I know he's the original Bad Boys.
I can't remember. I don't rememberwhich, but he's always played that.
He's always a russ Yeah, yeah, whoever the actor, I guess,
(55:44):
I don't hate it was his charactermakes you want to not like Seinfeld episode
where he helped George get a Froggermachine across the street. Oh, yes,
that's right anyway, in that inthat shuttle but he dies, Yeah,
he dies, and then um,what's his name? The one other
young guy? Yeah, I don'tremember his name because I knew people had
(56:08):
to die. Yeah. If Idon't even remember who else was in,
I don't. Uh, it waslike that his Binny was that his name
or um, it doesn't matter.I know, it doesn't matter. I
don't remember that. But when Brucewillis gruber no oxygen. Yeah, when
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he pulls the auction thing from Ben, forcing Ben to have to go back
up into the shuttle because he's goingto take his place, and he's like,
just take care of my daughter.Oh, and he takes his patch
off and he's like, give thisa Billy Bob Thornton, which is not
his character's name. What was BillyBob's name? Yea Truman, Dan Truman.
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Now you gotta admit that was alittle bit there when you know it
was. I don't want to critiqueit because I wanted what I felt was
that. So with that I getso I guess when Ben Afflick was drilling
and decided to just keep going eventhough on the rig at the beginning and
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in the simulation he fucked up bothtimes somehow, right, Yeah, I
mean how many times we had tohear that get out of here, Ben.
But so I guess that there wasan admiration that and I think that,
uh, that Bruce always liked himand probably looked at him as a
son. There something the whole time, but he probably grew an admiration for
him in that moment. But withthat and then um, the one that
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was the actual astronaut that later saidI want to shake the hand of the
dollar of the braves got a littlebit good. However, I feel like
they're a relationship never actually evolved tothat point. Yeah, you know,
like I just that they were alwayskind of at odds. It never absolutely
it's nice gun out of that dude'shand. It's nice. I wanted.
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I wanted to feel more and againit I'll just chalk it up to I
waited so long to see it,and I knew it had tear jerking moments,
so I was waiting for them soI couldn't get hit by them as
much as some of that saw.If you watch it again, you think
those moments to get you in alllikelihood, Yes, I mean that was
a pretty good moment. I'd justlike to shake the hand. I love
that, right, Like throw thatin a movie where I don't know anything
(58:30):
about it, and that's getting memore that. I'm pretty sure I've seen
this movie at least twenty or twentyfive pis okay, I I love every
time every single time. I startedtoo when I see it, I start
crying. When um, when BenAffleck is he's starting to go down to
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it on the planes valleys, theample, No, I find that whole
say, yeah, I know,it's just I know, but I'm trying
to work past that. When Brucewillis, you know, pulls his air
(59:14):
too bow and like throws him inthere, and he's like, that's my
job. It's what I was herefor or something like that, and and
Bruce was like, no, yourjob now is to take care of my
daughter, and I literally lose iteverything. That's a good line. I
think that I because she I lookedover where you're watching the other night,
like she's bawling. It doesn't matter. I'll say two things. I think
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one of the things that ruined itfor him is that Ben Affleck just say,
isn't very good in that scene.Yeah. But the other thing is
that, like I still did cry. It's just that I wanted to weep
when I when there's a movie thattries to make him cry, I want
to weep. But I was stilllike in tears, like tangible tears coming
down my face. I just wantedto be blubbering, I'd a wave off
(59:59):
a couple of tears. Yeah,because I've seen it so many times.
Jeff shake his head like a bunchof sissy. Yeah, that's right,
dude, you got sometimes it's okayif the fields these were not that pep
blue hero stuff. I know thatthat whole scene where they're going down the
tube, Ben, You're absolutely right, Ben Affleck's just horrible and it's not
(01:00:21):
good. Yeah. And Bruce Willis'sfake accent. Oh yeah, he's totally
trying to do the Southern accent throughthe whole movie. He doesn't. It
just doesn't work that he's he's tryingto do an accent, Southern accent.
He's he's trying an accent. Ihave the Southern an accent as much as
(01:00:45):
or that. He's just a bitmore stoic and this than he normally is.
So his delivery is different than hislike snarky, smart ass normal one.
So he's at he's a bit slowerand deliver his lines. And I
don't think Southern acause I've watched BruceWillis ever since, like remember Moonlighting came
(01:01:07):
out right, you know, I'vealways been a big fan of his best
and but now he's trying to pulloff a set in this movie. It
just doesn't work. See. Ididn't even catch anything that you guys looked
up about Bruce Willis being a dickon this movie. No, supposedly.
The only dick move that I sawthat he did was he had to have
(01:01:30):
his own trailer for workout equipment,Yes, and never used it. That's
what you know, you're yeah,exactly. But he was supposed he was
like great and real friendly and awesomeon set with everybody, and that that
kind of comes from listening to KevinSmith about cop Out and how awful meeting
(01:01:52):
his hero only turn out to havean awful experience. It's my thing,
and I don't want to because Ilove Kevin Smith too, so I'm not
trying to shoot on him. WhatI take from that is that, again,
Bruce Willis was a movie star inthe height of gluttony in Hollywood.
The Schwartz stallone. Oh yeah.They were used to those twenty million dollars
(01:02:13):
pay days where these movies were routinelydoing three, four or five hundred million
dollars in the domestic box office.So for that to suddenly change and now
you're making two million dollars, butyou know you're still the biggest movie star,
right, Like, Yeah, Idon't know how I would process that.
I'd like to think I wouldn't bea dick like Kevin Smith those stories
(01:02:36):
he tells about. But I don'tknow. I don't know when when when
you have that big of an ego, just build up from being a superstar
and number one on the call sheetfor twenty five years, Yeah, and
then you kind of crash from itbecause he's not I hate to say,
but he's not an A list celebanymore. Well, he's probably an A
(01:03:00):
celebt, but he's probably not somebodythat can carry a successful movie. Well
you know, he's still super famous, yes, but he's not. He
doesn't have the same recognition that hedid. It's not his face on the
post or selling. Did you guyshear a death wish? Yes? I
did not. I wanted to.You know, willis not the original?
(01:03:20):
You know what got me about that? And I will still see you at
one point. Uh. I don'teven want to be this kind of sap,
but like right when that movie cameout, is when like a bunch
of pretty shitty things happened in theworld. I'm like, well, this
is extreme violence, which I love, but for some reason, for the
first time, it actually made mefeel kind of weird than my stomach,
(01:03:43):
like this is crazy extreme violence.Maybe how those are the movies I love
and I will watch it and loveit when I watch it, but like,
it just made me pause for asecond. It's not that I see
what you the time period it cameout because I didn't think it was that
bad. No, it wasn't.I think Bruce Wis was bad at all
in it. No, it wasn'twritten that well. Yeah, but still
(01:04:06):
it just wasn't was it. Ithink it could have been better, but
it was still a decent movie.It's worth watching. Did you watch that
um Eli Roth his horror documentary seriesthat was AMC. That was pretty good.
No, that's pretty good. It'sseven or eight episodes, Like there's
two episodes on like Slasher movies,and then there was Zombie and oh it
(01:04:29):
sounds really cool. It's pretty goodthough. I mean he's got on yeah,
Rob Zombie and Tom Savini and allsorts of people. It's pretty good.
Cool. I haven't watched all ofit. The Slasher ones were pretty
solid. Do you guys have ShutterI had in the past. Yes,
yeah, I have it right nowbecause they had like a what a seven
or five day free trial. ButI found myself not finding things that weren't
(01:04:55):
on Netflix. I know. It'snot a couple of original stuff that I
checked out, but I I don'tknow if it's worth a lot now.
A lot of it I think isjust older. It's almost in public domain
type movies. I don't know.They had a lot of feel like they're
trying to be like the Netflix ofHart. So they had a lot of
(01:05:15):
original Shutter only exclusives. Yeah,but I have yet to see one that's
really worth paying to watch for thatsubscription. True. I mean I watched
Mayhem, Joe Lynch's movie because thatwas exclusive to Shutter, so that was
cool. Yeah, but I watchedout my free trial and then forgot it
ran out and then I had topay. I watched a little bit of
(01:05:38):
the uh the uh oh God?What was that guy? The he like
is a horror movie host. Iwant to say, Billy Bob, do
you know who you're talking about?Shoot? It fell right out of my
post. No, Yeah, Likehe hosts like horror movies, so he
does tooke jokes over top of stuff. I'm gonna look it up while we
(01:06:00):
continue this conversation, because I wasI was pretty excited to check that out.
But no, after that, I'mlike, I don't know, Well,
anyway, you guys are convincing methat paying five bucks a month for
shutter. Hey, if anybody outthere has Shutter, let me know if
I'm missing something. I probably signedup for it once a year around Halloween,
(01:06:21):
Yeah, just to kind of checkback in, and it's I might
watch two or three and it's like, I don't even finish that month that
I already paid for before. Ican't like, I'm fine, Yeah,
just my bad. The last drivein with Joe Bob Briggs, so they
have a he's on shutter. Shutternow with like a whole new host movies.
(01:06:42):
Was hisstery Signs three thousand type thing. I think he was out before
those guys. Possible. He's hugein the hard community. Oh yeah,
I've never heard of him. Yeah, he yeah, he riffed on movies.
But they will watch some movie,he'll come back give his opinion.
I don't know. I got itkind of because this saw people talking about
this interesting. I just haven't foundenough content that that I can't just get
(01:07:06):
on Netflix right or Amazon Prime.Right, I'll be like, at what
point do I cut off getting anotherstreaming package? Well, I would now
because Amazon Prime their library is blowingup. With Netflix switching to trying to
kind of umply focus on original content. There's so much more on Amazon Prime
(01:07:27):
now than like three or four monthsago. Yeah, I mean a lot
of it, though I feel seemsthey still want you to pay for it
though, Yeah, because I'm seeinga lot of stuff. It's like,
oh I want to watch that.I'm not spending five bucks to run it.
But you got the DC net rentalfees are insane, Yeah, they
are. You got DC with theirown streaming service now, Disney's coming out
(01:07:47):
with one. That's why I thinkNetflix is canceled all their Marvel series because
Disney and We're gonna have our ownservice here, so we're taking it is
still coming on in a couple coupleof days. Actually what is Wars?
Yeah? Actually, uh, they'renot going to come up with their service
(01:08:11):
for another what six months? Whatlike canceled Daredevil? Yeah? Yeah,
why continue it? You'll spend allthat money when that's I think yeah,
they're licensing the already, but Idon't want to buy another streaming service that's
going to be way more expensive.But I don't want another monthly Uh,
I know, I know. Well, what's we're what we're going to have
(01:08:32):
to do is wait until everything comesout, and then we rent it for
a month, right, and thenwe cancel it. You know what I
mean? We were we were talking, Well, it's like the DC network
right now, there's you know,you you watched Titans, but other than
that, there's nothing on it.That's what I mean. Like everybody's like
(01:08:53):
talking about cutting the cable, whichis great, well, but then next
thing, you know, your bucksexactly the same thing. And then once
you add that to the Internet thatyou already needed, the same thing,
you're still a couple of your overducks. Well yeah, no one's come
out with the perfect I'm probably goingto get the Disney one just with really
(01:09:17):
well with your kids, with youngkids and if they have stuff that is
in like the Disney Vault or whatever. You know. Yeah, because you
have to think every Disney movie youspend to to download it on whatever Voodoo
or Amazon is twenty bucks. Ican't imagine it's gonna be too much more
(01:09:38):
than twenty dollars a month. I'llprobably buy more than one of the time
to buy a physical copy as thirty. And you never know when things are
going to come out, so atleast when they're little it might make sense.
But it's just it's and then Iget to watch all the Ship to
Lie with Them one, which helps. But yeah, it's gonna be because
(01:10:02):
I love the Marvel on Netflix.I really did. That was their biggest
draw for a minute there that there'ssome of my favorite stuff that was on
Netflix. I mean, I meanyou got original Adam Sandler movies coming out.
Oh well, yeah, when you'retalking about that, don't get me
wrong. I love Adam Sandler,but oh none those have been that great.
He is special his comedy special.Say, we were just talking about
(01:10:23):
that. That was good. OhI haven't watched it. Good, it's
good. It's what is it likean hour ten minutes something like that.
Yeah, we're talking about when hedid a the Chris Farley song homage to
Chris Farley, it's like that.Definitely, I definitely teared up. Yeah,
I was definitely turned away from militia. So she didn't see me cry.
(01:10:44):
That was touching. That would heloved that guy. That was like
that was a bromance at its finestand and his special after he went did
all these great jokes and he wasvery vulgar. Oh, certain times it
was. It was funny when hehit that moment he wanted to do a
shout out to Chris. Farley waslike, wow, it was tough.
(01:11:08):
It was like it was really good, but I was like, you know,
I wanted to just blubber and breakdown, but since she was sitting
beside me, I had to controlit. Oh yeah, if you weren't
in the room, I would havejust let it all. I've been ugly
crying. I was sitting on thefront of my bed rocking back and forth.
(01:11:31):
That was tough. Yeah. Ihighly recommend that special if you like
Adam Saidler at all. Yeah,you'll absolutely love it. Yeah, and
in that that moment, if itdoesn't get you, well, sorry about
anything to get Yeah, sorry aboutyour emotional situation. I hope your kids
like, yeah, I don't know, I mean, yeah, I don't
(01:11:57):
know what to do with shutter Like, yeah, the Disney all these things
are coming out. They just yougotta rack up more than cable and now
that's fine. All this stuff Idon't have. I don't know what that
has to do with armagainon I know, but they did save us, save
the planet so we could have streamingservices left. Yeah, hey, there
(01:12:18):
you go. Um. I thinkthe movie is absolutely freaking fun as absolutely
it's a fantastic movie. You know, as much as we ripped apart con
Air for their plotholes, this moviehas so many plotholes that it becomes like
I don't care anymore. It's I'mjust going with I'm going with. You
(01:12:41):
don't care. Oh, I thinkOnce you know there's a giant asteroid and
their NASA's plan is to send abunch of oil drillers. You can't complain
about plotholes anymore. You're just inand you gotta go for right or I
guess they didn't. Roger Ebert sayit was like the worst movie. It
was the worst movie for him thatyear, and so I guess not everybody
(01:13:03):
can just go with it. Yeahyeah, um, he hated this movie
so much, and that kind ofmakes me sad because I feel like this
movie. I don't know how Icould hate this I know, I feel
like this movie has everything that youcould possibly want n a film. Ben
Affleck hate did this movie? Iknow he did, but what would listen
that? You need to listen tohis DVD commentary because it's really funny.
(01:13:27):
Actually, whenever Billy Bob Thornton getson screen, he starts to do with
the sling blade voice, and it'spretty funny if you were if you watch
this in the theaters when it cameout, or even when you're watching now,
do you guys ever have this momentyou're like, how in the fuck
did he become Batman? Yes?Yeah, when it was originally announced.
(01:13:51):
What have you ever watched that KevinSmith video where he's watching, Uh,
Like the announced meant that Ben Affleckis becoming Batman. Probably cried. He
was weeping, weeping, weeping,weeping. It's like really crying hard and
(01:14:12):
then he goes on to like buthe cried like a Twitter stream kind of
thing. We've seen some people likeBen Affleck, what the fuck complaining?
And he's just an absolute disaster.Somebody his wife had to pick him up
and hold him for hours. Wow, weeping weeping week. I actually thought
he was great as Batman and BruceWayne. He wasn't bad. I think
(01:14:36):
he just didn't suck as much asit did. He was definitely better than
George Clooney. Oh yeah, Iliked him more as Batman than Bruce Wayne.
And I liked Christian Bale Moore asBruce Wayne than Batman. Yeah,
combined, Okay, I think Ithink that there's just something I don't know,
(01:14:56):
if it's like a recognizable knit abilitynest to Ben Affleck as Bruce Wayne.
That just threw me because he,I mean, he's a big dude,
especially in those movies. He wasa big dude. But there's just
like a softness. I don't know, I don't know, something just didn't
it quite because you like land withMe. Batman was in Chasing Amy,
(01:15:16):
but when he has the mask on, he's got a strong chin. I
buy all that kind of stuff.But you just kind of like, I
don't know, maybe he's just toopretty or something. You know, like
Bruce Wayne is pretty. Yeah,yeah, yeah, I mean yeah,
he shouldn't not be pretty right right. Well? You know that's because if
you take off Bruce Wayne's clothes soundsweird, yeow, but it was it
(01:15:41):
was in com but he's like heis severely scarred, right, Yeah,
his body, but his face somehownever clean. Yeah, but there's been
like stuff of the kind of bookswhere you know, he takes a shirt
off, You're like, oh mygod, you look at his back and
like, dude, you've been stabbedlike one bazillion times. Yeah, that's
why he got addicted the paint carsfor a while. Really. Yeah,
(01:16:05):
there's some string of comics still,none of them compared to Batman, the
animated series. So god, that'sso good. I was just saying,
like, maybe we should go backto Armageddon. That's all I was.
I was were talking about, youknow, yeah, Kevin Smith and Ben
(01:16:28):
Affleck and Batman. Sorry, Iloved Armageddon. Maybe Roger Ebert saw a
deep impact first. Maybe. Yeah. I saw online and people compared it
as a better disaster movie than Armageddonbecause it had more scientific See. I
don't I'm not looking for science,you know what I mean. Like in
(01:16:51):
a disaster movie, I want itto be action. Yeah, comedy,
like I said, drama, andit's almost Apple and Oranges because it's a
real action movie Compared to a drama. I don't want. Other than the
asteroids, there's not that much tocompare. Yeah, that's where I love
(01:17:12):
this movie, is that it's good. Oh yeah, that's a good frigging
movie. Let's just right. Andif you don't cry a little bit somewhere
in there, well, hey waittill an asteroid actually is coming towards Earth,
right, and save it up forthen. You know. The acting,
you know, because we got topick our one degree for our next
(01:17:34):
movie. But the acting Billy Bobwas great. I thought. I thought
his his role and how he deliveredeverything, he was solid. Ben Affleck
sucked, Yeah, but I stillsometimes maybe it's coming from him being in
Kevin Smith movies. I like BenAffleck doesn't matter. Yeah, I root
(01:17:54):
for him. Yeah, yeah,I didn't care. Some of his lines
were some of the cheesiest lines deliveredhim. Yeah. Bruce Willis, well,
he's Bruce Willis. He will alwaysjust be He's Bruce Willis. What
else can you say? Um?And Steve bu SCAMMI Unfortunately, I feel
like he had a string of movieswhere they were making him be almost the
same character. Yeah he was,because he was beyond his acting was definitely.
(01:18:20):
Yeah, that was they almost wantedhim to be like remember that weird
character and con Arraga. Did yougotta be kind of like that a little
bit? Because that was a bighit, right, So that's what you're
known for, that's what you're gonnado. So if we're picking one degree
of this movie. So we hadBruce Willis, Steve Scammy, Ben Affleck,
(01:18:41):
Billy, Bob Thornton, Michael Clark, duncan there you go? Hey,
we did it right for once.Um, but I think we gotta
pare it down a little bit.And I thought we should pare it down
to top tier. No offense toanybody, but people that made a whole
bunch of movies that we could pickfrom. That's all. Before we do
(01:19:01):
the name pick. I have asuggestion, oh god, that we can
go from Armageddon two Tombstone. I'mI'm down to the thing. See now
that's good. And then from theThing we could go several different directions beyond.
(01:19:28):
But we say we're gonna pick froma hat. I say we picked
from a hat, and we canstill get there. I say, we
just do it. I say wepicked from a hat. All right,
So we have three names. Betty'sgot that is that fair? I know,
Jeff, you're on the right track. And who picks hat is discussed
(01:19:49):
at all. Right, here hegoes, because I think I picked Armageddon.
Now how the name? Yeah,we got we got the movies.
Name how we're going to pick themovie because we're gonna do that via debate,
debate. Yeah, oh god,what do we get? Probably Billy
(01:20:13):
Bob, Billy Billy. Damn it? All right, so we have a
sheet here. There isn't a debate, right, it's December. We know
what we're doing. Well, okay, well let me throw a couple out
there and we'll get the debate going. So we have, of course,
we have die Hard, the one, the only we have, and you
can lump in all the Diehards anybodywants to do. The only thing I'm
(01:20:35):
gonna say against Diehard is where dowe go a one off from? There's
always a one Alan Rickman's been inso many. The whole point is to
take us to movies that not thatthings like Harry Potter. No, no,
we just talked about that one.I got everybody. Everybody's leaning towards
(01:20:59):
that one movie. But let metell you, let me throw a cup
out here. The bonfire the Vanities, maybe not. I don't even know
what that is. Billy Bathgate.I don't know what that is. Death
becomes her. I don't even knowwhat that is. Oh, that was
horrible. Some people would disagree.No, really, how about this one
(01:21:21):
Unbreakable? Yeah, yeah, there'sa big check mark beside that, Milicia.
I know, because I was like, that might be well, and
there is a sequel coming out.Well, there was a spinoff sequel and
then a new sequel glassing out.Yeah, glasses coming out. So I
don't know. M oh, hewas in polp fiction. Oh. I
(01:21:42):
loved that when Steve Bushmi was sayinghow he was gonna harm somebody, and
it's something like he's gonna cut theirfucking face off or something. Because you've
seen pulp fiction. That was nothing. Oh no, what they were gonna
stabble with the needle? Yeah,yeah, all right, so I would
say, God, I knew itwould end up somehow beating Bruce Willis.
(01:22:06):
So we got die Hard, wegot Unbreakable, we got Paul Fiction,
we got a bunch of stuff weprobably don't want to watch. Ye.
I have a horrible idea, doyou okay? We can let death take
the movie. He's gonna say,you gotta call, you gotta call him
(01:22:27):
right now. No, I mean, we don't have to decide that.
There, that's everybody. Okay,we'll get ready for the next one.
We don't have to do that.Oh boy, you gotta plug it in.
Let me see if you'll actually pickup and then plug him. Let
me see the list. What elsecan we do? I don't know,
(01:22:49):
expendables one of the sequels. Idon't know if I want to do expendables,
but Fast Food Nation answers hopefully.Hey dad, Hey, we're doing
the podcast right now, and we'retrying to do a new thing where we're
(01:23:11):
hey, Mickey, you're also onthe air. Yeah, you're live on
the podcast. So we're doing anew thing for that or anything. So
we just finished our mcgathern. Thenwe're trying to figure out what we're gonna
do next. So we put abunch of the actors is that we're in
that movie in a hat, pulledthe name out, and I pulled out
Bruce Willis, And we're trying todecide what Bruce Willis movie we should do.
(01:23:35):
So we couldn't decide, so wewere going to leave it up to
you. It's Christmas time, Iknow, That's what I said. Gee,
I don't know. I just watchedWhat did I just watch of his
that I hadn't seen? I thinkyou talked about what's the one where he
goes like to the the almost ghosttown that's run by a gang, that
(01:24:00):
last man standing? Yes, yeah, I think Christopher wal Walter Hill.
That's why I watched it. Iknow you had talked about it before,
and I, for some reason nevernever watched it. And then I came
across it and saw that it wasdirected by wall Fifth Elements not on this
list, and thinky, what aboutthe Fifth Element? I like that better
(01:24:23):
than it was received. I thinkI love the Fifth Element. It wasn't
real Well, oh so this isjust list. Yeah, and of course
we got pulp fiction. Oh yeah, you know I've been thinking of watching
that again. I've seen it acouple of times when I first camp,
(01:24:43):
and just in the last maybe monthor so, i've been thinking as a
time yet as a time, I'mplanning on watching that again soon. That's
I don't know. I'm as youmight know, I'm a family man with
six kids and like seventeen grandkids,and Christmas as well. Christmas isn't as
big a deal with me as itis for Benny, but it's a big
deal for me. And when Ithink of pulp fiction, I think,
(01:25:06):
I don't know if I can watchpulpit That's that's kind of a So are
you saying Diehard? Did you guysdidn't do die Hard yet? Yeah?
I think one of the episodes youtalked about it a lot, at least
the problem. Yeah, he's alwaystalking about our whole thing is like trying
(01:25:27):
to figure out what to do offof that. So really you get Alan
Rickman or yeah, that's it?You know, like I think that I
think that that main blonde Henchman hasbeen in a bunch of other things.
Get somewhere. Well, that mainblonde Henchman, you know who that is
was? He was a Russian balletguy. We're not doing ballet man.
(01:25:55):
He was known first as this balletguy. I don't remember if he defects
it or not, but he cameto the West in some manner and was
well known as a ballet I keepalmost saying ballerina. He wasn't a ball
ballet guy. But but then itwas kind of surprising to not only see
him in a movie, but youknow, a real badass, tough guy
(01:26:16):
kind of role. But uh,yeah, I want the wife has been
in a lot of good movies.Yeah, she's been. Yeah, I
want to watch that movie and talkabout it. I don't want to get
stuck watching an episode of Family Mattersor something. Oh yeah, we got
Yeah, we got Unbreakable too.Bruce Willis. I love that and coming
(01:26:41):
the new ones coming out with thesame character. It even makes it even
more cool to talk about it.Yeah, and there's probably a lot of
stuff you could you could get intoSamuel L. Jackson with Samuel Jackson and
we'll circle back to Paul fiction.We don't forget on the list. We
also had Bruce Willison was in inHawk. That's why I just pulled up
(01:27:04):
who was that with them? Andthat? Oh boy, I don't Daniello
Yellow Wow. Yeah, I don'tthink that worked out for Bruce Oh Coburn.
There was quite a few. There'sactually a lot of people in that
movie. You got to pick one. Yeah, I'm I'm thinking there's stallone.
(01:27:26):
There's probably a ton of Bruce Willismovies that were that that. Afterward,
I'm thinking, oh, why didn'tI think of this one? But
uh um, what was the lastone we were just chatting about before Hudson
Hawk Unbreakable. Yeah, I meanthat seems a good one because the new
one's coming out shortly, you know, and Philly, Yeah, and and
(01:27:51):
it's it's there's a lot that youcould get into with the comic book connection,
superhero connection and all that kind ofstuff, And I think that's the
cast that will probably help us outthe most with choosing the next one.
Yeah. Well, I mean youhave Samuel Jackson, I mean, take
your pick. You know, that'sanother one I've been thinking of watching again
(01:28:13):
recently, is his uh uh shaftShaft Yeah, yeah, yeah, Yeah,
that's great. So Unbreakable actually upto are you saying, yeah,
it's your choice. I'm just puttingin a vote. Vote. Uh well,
(01:28:34):
unless I changed my mind and getback to you later, I'm thinking
Unbreakable would be it. Yeah,I'm down. That works. I'm breakable.
It is good. I'll look forwardto here now one man, Now,
Mickey, I know you watched armDid you watch Armageddon? I did
watch Armageddon? Right. Uh,we've been talking about for the past hour,
(01:28:54):
but you got like sixty second opinionon before you hear what we said
about about it. What did youthink. I don't think I have a
sixty second opinion. But I likedit better than I think I thought I
would. There's a lot of moviesthat come out that are so big and
(01:29:15):
so talked about. I intentionally decideI'm not going to watch this for a
couple of years, and I'll watchit when no one's talking about it twenty
years later, right, And thena couple of years I forget all about
it. But I did watch it, and I think I liked it better
than I thought. Uh, what'shis name, the hunky guy a Fleck?
(01:29:36):
Uh? He I'm not drawn tohim, but it's not for me,
like Tom Cruise or somebody that Ireally like. I hardly will watch
a movie if some guys are init, like Tom Cruise is one of
them. But and it's not that. It's not that way. With Ben
Affleck. I thought, you know, I can take him or leave him.
Bruce Willis, I thought was wasgood, really good, And uh
(01:30:00):
it was. It was good enoughfor me. It's not. It's there
was a number of It's a kindof movie, a type of a movie,
and there's probably a handful I wouldpick before that for somebody to watch
you know, multi starred, epickind of save the World movie, but
it was it was better than Ithought it would be. But and don't
(01:30:21):
you love a good roundup scene thatthey're getting all of the people. You
know, you're meeting all the teamdoing all their shit. You know that
some of them are gambling, someof them are doing this, and that
it's fun to see one of thosethat's I love fame movies, team movies
where they're all the different. Thething that did happen with arm again with
me was and it's not at allthe same kind of movie, but there
(01:30:43):
were enough scenes that would constantly remindme how good The Right Stuff was,
did you Yeah, I mean therewere just a number of like even the
tiny scene where they're preparing to beastronauts and they're all like in hospital game.
I think of that, and thatwhole episode in the movie was just
(01:31:05):
done so well in Right Stuff.And then the scene where I forget what
it is in this one, butwhere they're kind of introduced for the first
time and you see them all intheir astronaut off that's walking toward the space,
and you think of those scenes inthe Right Stuff and how epic they
were. Yeah, it was veryfamiliar with some of that, and the
(01:31:26):
captain says, talk about the wrongstuff. Yeah, that happened with me
a good bit. It was.It was better than I thought it was.
Okay, I enjoyed it. Idon't think I'll ever watch it again,
and never reminded me how good theright stuff and like it made me
think. I think I watched theright stuff tomorrow, Mickey, thank you
so much for participating and being onthe show. And I can't I can't.
(01:31:53):
Yeah, I can't wait to watchUnbreakable and see what you think about
it. Dude, have you guysseen that before? That's one of them.
I love it. Yeah, it'sa favorite movie of mine. All
right, good, alrighty, alright, take care of Mickey, have a
good night, by nice Unbreakable,nakable all right. I know that breaks
(01:32:15):
your heart, Betty because you wantedit to be die Hard. I love
Unbreakable, die Hard through Unbreakable,Samuel Jackson's and die Hard too. I
can just we have so many greatactors. Yeah, who, I've seen
it a hundred times. I can'tthink of anybody Samuel Jackson right now.
Either. I'm like saying, there'sso many great actors, like, no,
it's Jackson, Yeah, yeah,who was the one I can't write?
(01:32:41):
I can't think of to save mylife. Bruce Willis's wife, Um,
the kid though, hasn't he beenin stuff? Joel? Um?
Next time, we just gotta putmovies in a hat. So somehow we
pull out reindeer games. Yeah,we have to do it. Yeah,
that's what we need to do fornext time, something like that. I
think Unbreakable Yeah yeah, the Bridehe got Forrest Gum. Yeah, but
(01:33:11):
Unbreakable it is worthy of a shot. Hey, we gotta wrap this up.
We've been going off forever. Ithink arm Again is as a blast.
It's good to watch every I thinkwe watch it like every year.
Once against Cold we want to watchsomething pretty much. Yeah, I don't
(01:33:31):
know. Still amazing to know thatthat Ben Affleck and arm Again and eventually
became Batman in Justice League. It'sit's so crazy. Bruce Willis is always
just Bruce Willis. Well yeah yeah, and Michael Bay continues to make movies
just like his mentor taught him.And Ship blows up. Everything's crazy.
(01:33:57):
Yeah, yeah, I don't knowit. That's my final opinion. Check
it out. If you haven't seenit, it's worth a watch. If
you have seen it, you probablylove it. Watch it again. Listen
anything else where we get out here? No, I mean, I love
this film and I can't say enoughabout it. Um. I can't let
(01:34:18):
you guys know what I think aboutit because I think it's so good.
You know, Jeff, anything else, Nope, great movie everyone, that's
something. Everybody that loves an actionmovie you should see. Oh yeah,
cool, Benny, Yeah, No, not really. I mean most it
(01:34:38):
being the first time I saw iton twenty years later, most of what
I heard was like negative kind ofstuff because it's just as you know,
I loved it. I had somuch fun watching it. I will watch
it again and I can't wait towatch it again. Same here, guys,
And you know this, I wantto like just I just want to
tell NASA because I know NASA islistening. If uh, there's an asteroid
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head heading towards Earth and the onlyway to save it is have a podcast
of four people, not us,to broadcast from that asteroid. That's the
only way to save the planet.Well, that punch Farmer is your astronauts.
Talk to you guys next time.Later