PFP #91 - Cherokee Creek Director Todd Jenkins

On this episode we had the opportunity to talk with the director of Cherokee Creek, Todd Jenkins. Cherokee Creek is a hilarious comedy horror film with Bigfoot, blood, nudity, and just laugh-out-loud moments that Todd actually pulled from his own life! So grab a cold one and join the party! Things we discussed: Funk Brewing, The Disco Room, Winter is here, Polar, Mads Mikkelsen, Point Break, Bigfoot, Camping, how fast can a bear run, can Mark out run a turkey and more!

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Episode Transcript

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Hey, Bred, Welcome to punchFarm, the only podcast coming to you
live from the disco room Funk BrewingEat Town, home of the delicious Citrus
ipa, which it's not on toptoday. I know I had to have
a I had to have a SilentiscoNorms in the background yelling at US minus

(00:56):
twenty one at a bar in Chicago. It's super cold there right now.
Wow, Yeah, that would besome ice cold beer. I feel like
a lot of people have actually frozenbeer, have actually died because it's so
cold out there. I don't knowif it's Chicago, but it's generally in
that area. Well, in Chicago, I heard on the news they were
having power outages, and it's like, that's not this is not good time

(01:19):
for that. No, I meanmurder if you live in the city.
These people aren't going to have fireplacesthey can throw in a couple of logs
or something to warm up. You'rekind of shit out lucked pretty much.
Yeah, what is it? Imean, it's like ten degrees outside right

(01:40):
now here in Pennsylvania eighteen. MaybeI might be let's see, I might
be mega stuff up, but letme tell you, it's pretty dangn cold.
I know it says it's eleven degreesright now. Today is one day
when I walked outside, okay,it's seven point three degrees where we're at
three point two inside at the discobar. It's nice and warm now,

(02:04):
especially with a beer. This issomething new. We decided to. We
come to fuck every Wednesday, havebeers nerd out, and then go home
to the studio record and we forgetall the fun stuff we said. So
I'm just gonna do it while we'rehere, right, Yeah, everybody's missing
out, you know today when Iwalked outside and got hit by that windshow,

(02:24):
which is not as bad as peopleout in Chicago. So no,
and it's gonna be worse tomorrow.It's gonna be two degrees outside tomorrow.
Yeah, it's gonna be worse heretoo. Yeah. But I definitely was
like, I want to move toSan Diego, yeah, because I guarantee
it's not seven point eight degrees inSan Diego. No. No. I

(02:46):
was looking at Texas, Austin,Texas, and I think they're like in
the forties right now, and Iwas like, that's better than what we
have right now. But yeah,but they're freezing down there for oh,
I'm sure they're freezing. Yeah,yeah, you know what. Oh well,
we're alive. We have a freshbeer, and we got some stuff

(03:07):
to talk about. We had anamazing conversation with the director of Cherokee Creek,
Todd Jenkins. He was hilarious.His movie is hilarious. Before we
get to that, though, Jeff, I'm just very curious. Have you
watched U Punisher two on Netflix?The second season? You mean, yeah,

(03:28):
Punisher two season two? No,I haven't watched it. Okay,
I wasn't too thrilled with the firstseason. I thought the second one was
outstanding. Um, it was great. We loved it. And oh oh
season when you're doing a podcast livehere strings you forget. Let's just passing

(03:51):
me a note, She says introductions. Hey everybody, and as always,
I am joined by my wonderful Wifeiah and the guy who hates everything,
Jeff, I don't hate everything.Hello anywhere. Uh dude, check it

(04:13):
out. It was way better thanthe season one in my opinion. Really
yeah, you know. It hadlots of actions, some really killer fight
scenes. There was moments in thefight scenes where I just yelled out like
holy shit, just you know,the action beats were incredible. Cool.
Um, John what is his name, John Burt burthen Thall, that's not

(04:36):
so. I think it's yeah,Shane from That's why I know him as
he U he was great. Ohyeah, okay, yeah, I mean
so I'm assuming now that this seasonwas so excellent that Netflix is going to
cancel it. Oh I'm sure.Yeah. They might make one more and
then they'll cancel it. I don'tknow. They canceled all their all their

(05:00):
Marvel stuff. Well, I stillthink it's because Marvels they're coming. Disney's
got that new Disney channel, thepay per view Disney Channel that's going to
have all the Marvel content on it. I think that's where that all those
cancelations are coming from. Yeah,that's I mean, I'm not going to
get another streaming the service. No, you know, everybody's cutting their cable.

(05:23):
But if you keep picking up everystreaming service like DC has their own,
if if Disney like before you knowit, you'll be paying as much
as cable again or more. Ithink Netflix is popping out some killer stuff
like this is one you have towatch and I hope you like it.
Polar starring Mad's Michelson you know whoMad's Michelson is. No, I only

(05:49):
know him from Doctor Strange. Hewas the bad guy Doctor Strange. Oh
okay, yeah, the one thatwas trying to open a door to door
mamu. Yeah, because he thoughthe would get ultimate power. But yeah,
now that you say that, Iknow exactly who you mean. Right.
He was. He was great nowcalled Polar Polar. Yeah. He
was also in the UM Star Warsmovie. Yes he was. Oh,

(06:13):
he in the A Star Wars story. Yeah, I forget it was okay,
I know, I can't think ofwhat it was. It was about
the people that went and got thedeath Star plans. It was a great
sacrifice. Wow, I completely lostit. I'm sorry. It's okay.
Everybody knows what we're talking about.Yeah, he was in that, No

(06:35):
man. It's about a an assassinwho is like two weeks out from being
fifty years old, his retirement age, but his greedy boss sends like this
hit squad to kill him because hewants to kill him before he can retire
and collect his pension. Yeah,that way he doesn't sounds like every other

(06:57):
big corporate Ye, that way,he doesn't depend I am. But turns
out Mad's Michelson the best. Yeah, he's the best, kind of like
old man John Wick. Yeah,you know what, Yeah, what I
was watching is I was like,I was like, yeah, like,
this is like a John Wick movie, h but a little amped up even

(07:19):
more because it was there. Itwas based on a dark Horse graphic novel.
Oh okay, so it was.There was moments. It was just
really over the top ridiculousness, butit worked. Yeah. Yeah, if
you want, actually you start aboutNetflix movies. We watched it just slipped

(07:44):
my mind. No, I neverheard of that one. Sorry, that's
not the name of it. Justwatched The Last Night For god's sake,
Now we have silence? Why Jefftries to look up? What are you
talking about? Now? I thoughtPolard was great. I definitely recommend it.
It's uh, it is violent glory. There's nudity, and so that's

(08:05):
not the thing you look for inmovies. You probably won't dig it.
I would definitely say, if youlike any of the John Wick m yeah
you'll dig it. And now thatJohn Wick Threes coming out, I know
I'm pretty stoked for that. Iknow the trailer looks so I can't wait.
Who knew Keanu Reeves. Oh hewouldn't. He was in Uh oh

(08:26):
my god, now my brain justfailed. Uh, Bill and Ted's excellent
event. Who knew that guy rightthere? Yeah, nobody be John Wick,
right because he definitely didn't come acrossas a badass in that movie.
He was great. He was funny. Um no, I mean he was
a point Break and he was prettygood. Look, Point Break is a

(08:48):
classic. You don't you don't likePoint Break? Wow? Jeff not a
big fan. Give me, giveme one thing that that You didn't give
me one reason why you don't thinkthis is a good movie. The whole
California. Yeah, but every theway, I don't know how to describe

(09:11):
it, you know how everyone isjust California talking like dude yo and everything
like that. At least, sothe whole it was just so over the
top. Yeah, but what aboutBrody you know, I mean he was
awesome, the legendary Um yeah,the same guy that would end up being

(09:33):
in the movie Ghost, you know, doing some pottery with Demi Moore.
He was awesome this movie. Hehad a couple killer fight scenes. He
was I don't know, I thinkI think that movie is a classic.
And the fact that they's I neverknow. Well, the remake, I'm

(09:56):
trying to think it totally bombed.Int uh don't. It was terrible.
No, I wouldn't watch that.Yeah, you don't need to because I
know what you're gonna say. Itwasn't that good. I think he'll dig
polar I really do. Close.Isn't the a movie's name? Close?

(10:18):
Yeah? Oh? Is that?Um? I can't what is her name?
She was in the last Aliens movie? Yes, Sigourney Weaver. No,
she's got a French name. Iheard she was in the one maybe
not the last one, but shewas in the one where she was a
scientist. She had to stitch herself. Oh god, I don't she had

(10:39):
the alien baby. Yeah, that'sright. I don't know what her name
is? Or was the one afterPrometheus? Prometheus? Okay, right,
right, right, you're right,Jeff's right. Once in a while,
I get him. She was ina oh, another Netflix movie? What
Happened to Monday? Oh? Thatone? I actually like that. That

(11:00):
was decent. Yeah, you knowwhat's decent? Bigfoot? Now, Jeff,
of all the big Foot movies youwatched, because this is what I
find extremely fascinating. I still hatesuburban Sasquat. I know you do.
I still think it's a fun movie, and I just can't make you like

(11:22):
it. It's okay, it's okay. You know, last last time we
talked about Unbreakable and you thought itwas an okay movie. But then we
watched Cherokee Creek about Bigfoot spoiling abachelor party in the woods, ripping people's
heads off, claw on their faces. You love this movie. I thought

(11:43):
it was funny as hell. Imean, it did have some real slow
parts that it just kinda it's like, all right, come on, let's
get on with it a little bit. It's like, you know, the
whole when they at the very beginning, when kidnap the bat, that the

(12:03):
groom, um, it's like,all right, come on. When they
were in the truck, just itjust kept going on and on and on,
and then when they got finally gotthe campsite, there were some other
scenes were just kind of drug out. But once it actually started getting getting
into the kick of things, basicallywhen the strippers showed up, that's when

(12:26):
the party kind of started, andthat's when big Foot showed up. Basically,
it got really good and it waspretty damn funny. You know.
Uh. I found about found outabout this movie on a random Facebook post
and had to check it out.I was following, then I was following
on Instagram, and then I hadreached out to the director, mister Todd

(12:52):
Jenkins, uh, and we rentedthis movie over the weekend. Had a
blast. It's one of those movieslike, if you're easily offended, don't
watch it, don't run it.Uh. If you have a sense of
humor, you don't mind nudity,you don't mind some vulgarity. I think
I think you'll dig it a lot. Yeah. I love like before I

(13:16):
introduce the director, I love howyou're like, well, it's a little
slower parts could have saved that untilafter. Well are we talking? What
am I supposed to say? Iwant to give you my honest opinion,
but I would like to say,uh, compared to Unbreakable, had Cherokee
Creek, you seemed more excited andhappy about Cherokee Creek than Unbreakable, which

(13:41):
I think that says volumes. Yeah, it's totally true. I mean Unbreakable
didn't make me laugh. Well,I don't think it was a comedy,
true. You nail that one.Yeah, Oh, trust me, I
could. I could go on andon about Cherokee Creek. I mean,
there were some problems in there.Oh, it was low budget, which

(14:01):
is pretty obvious, and I thinkit knew what it was. You know,
he the director knew he was makinga bad comedic horror movie, whereas
with Unbreakable, it's m Night Shamalanthinking I'm making the next big blockbuster right

(14:22):
after the sixth Sense. Who knewin a million years that a couple nerds
sitting around the table would somehow becomparing Unbreakable to Cherokee Creek, right,
you know, Yeah, Jerkie Creek. It's a indy horror movie. It's
out right now. You can rentit on Amazon, I think iTunes,

(14:43):
Voodoo look it up, check itout. I'll give you my opinion after
we talked to the director, ToddJenkins. So without further ado, I'm
gonna cut to that interview right now, everybody, we are here. Filmmaker
Todd Jenkins, he directed Cherokee Creek. He did a lot of things in
it. They were pretty damn funny. Todd. Welcome to the show.

(15:07):
Thank you for having me, man. Looking forward to talking with you guys.
Yeah, man, I'm glad youhad time to hang out. Um,
you know, I was just ramblingon Facebook. Jed Bryan, another
filmmaker, had posted about your movieand about supporting indie filmmaking, and I
was like, oh my god,it's a Bigfoot movie. So I just
randomly message you and like, hey, dude, So I'm glad we're able

(15:31):
to connect. Yeah. Man,it's a big Foot movie, but it's
probably different than what people expect oncethey start watching it. Right, Oh
yeah, this is not this isnot your average Bigfoot. Let's put it
that way. Yeah, Bigfoot's there, the Bigfoot disappears, and indig Foot
makes a big comeback. Now thismovie, I don't. I mean,

(15:52):
you got you got your campers inthe woods, you got there getting Naggan,
They're gonna have sex, you gotbig Foot run around kill people.
I mean this this movie for mewas insane and I was laughing, had
a blast. I know a coupleof times Alicia was just like oh my
god and covered her mouth. Imean we were just having we were just

(16:14):
having. That's what I was goingfor, man. I want I wanted
to be like a roller coaster ridethat you never expect. What the hell
is gonna happen next Yeah. Infact, I mean even from the opening
scene, like I kept thinking tomyself because you know, when the the
kidnappers bust in and take that dudeinto bathroom, I just kept thinking,
like, man, he did notget to wipe his ass. Know,
we talked about that too. Idon't know. Even let me tell you

(16:38):
about something else. You might nothave noticed my cat is in that scene.
Did you notice my cat? Now? No, I didn't see that.
Yeah, yeah, that's the thing. Uh, whenever we come busting
in on the door, he's actuallypetting the cat on the toilet. But
but in fact, I guess thecat freaked out when we kicked the door

(16:59):
open, so it probably clawed intohim, so he clad kind of flying.
So maybe you have to like goframe by frame where you missed the
cat altogether? What's the cat feintedtwo and fell over? Now we didn't
that whole scene was improv We didn't. We had an idea of what we
wanted to try. But the guywho was on the tour and he's like,
hey, you guys just kicking thedoor, and I got an idea

(17:21):
of what I'm gonna do. AndI was like okay, And I don't
know if you've heard him our stories. We didn't have a crew or anything.
And that guy that was doing camerafor that scene, I had kind
of trained him that day, sohe was just kind of fine by the
seat of his pants, and thatwhole team was just one long improv take
that we had no idea what wewere doing to say, no way and
that was that was also your Wasthat your mom in the scene? Yeah,

(17:44):
that was my mom and the otherthree. Yeah, everybody took me
a hard time about that. Man. They're like, hey, man,
I can't believe you had your momthought like that. I'm like, my
mom always talks like that. Thatwas hilarious. Um Man, I feel
like we're getting ahead here, likeI want to bring it back and just
I want to know, God,how did you even get the idea to

(18:07):
make such chef this so outrageous bigfootgorefest. I could keep using adjectives,
but yeah, how'd you come upwith this idea? Oh gosh, Well,
me and Billy Blair, who playsVinny Blades in the movie, we
had done a really bad Bigfoot moviecalled Bigfoot Wars. I don't know if
you guys saw that it sounds vaguelyfamiliar. You probably wouldn't make it through

(18:30):
it. It's pretty bad. Butwe had been cast in that movie together
with Judd Nelson and c Thomas House, so I was like a huge c.
Thomas House fan growing up from likeRed Dawn, and so it was
really cool to get to work withhim. And we had a blast on
set and you know, at thehotel every night, and then the movie
came out. It was just totaldog shit, man. So it just

(18:56):
kept bothering me all the time becausefor some reason, I don't know what
it was about me, but growingup, I wanted to be in this
kick ass big Foot movie and itjust didn't happen. Always meaning away at
me that that didn't happen. AndI had a relative, I guess he
lives about forty minutes north of Dallasand Melissa, Texas, and he kept
saying, man, you've got tocome out here and shoot your own movie
on my property. And I waslike, yeah, that's really easy to

(19:18):
stay. Well, it's not easyto do. And we're just kind of
thrown around some ideas with my nephewand stuff, and we came up with
the idea to do like a bachelorparty type movie, kind of like The
over Beach Friday the Thirteenth, Andthen I based it on all my real
friends kind of growing up and guysI still know today. So there's actually
a real Pad, a real Caroline, a real Jared, and a real

(19:38):
Chat. And Chat is probably theclosest one to the real Chat in real
life because he really is this ragingatheist who was now experimenting with drugs in
his forties. So wow about now, was there a real Jinx in your
life or real Vinnie Blades in yourlife? Well, me and Me and

(20:00):
Billy basically play ourselves. It wasfunny during the audition process because after that
big Foot movie, he and Ikept getting cast in other movies together,
and I kind of just let myhair grow out for one of his movies.
And once I let my hair growout in the beer, I just
had to keep it for like threeyears. I could never shave it.
I still have the air in thebeer because that's kind of what I'm known

(20:22):
for. And every time I getready to cut my hair, Beer though
taught me in from some studio projectaudition or something and say don't don't cut
your hair, but uh, ifyou're figured with up the guy to place
Nnie Blades Billy Blair from the MACHETImovies. That's right from the Ano Sportsnegger
movie The Last Stand. So okay. I wanted to base his character of

(20:47):
Vinny Blades a little bit like onthe white character of Machete, but instead
of being a badass with machete,he just used fish blade knives. I
mean, well, the name isreally cool, Viney Blades, and it
was such a subtle scene. Butthere's one moment where he signs, um,
I forgot he's signed for that oneperson. We just draws a straight
line. Charge him forty bucks withthe picture. I think what did he

(21:11):
trying? Was it forty bucks totals? Yeah, thank you, oh charts.
He charged them more money for thepicture. That's right, take a
second picture, so he charged himanother tw that's kind of a joke.
I don't know if I got alot of these, uh, these horror
conventions and the guys man, Imean, sometimes they're real jerks about taking
picture as an autograph. So hethought it'd be funny. And also people

(21:32):
trying to do that to us everyonce in a while, I like they
recognize him or me from something andgo hey, man, can I do
a picture in autograph? So wethought that'd be funny to work that into
the movie. Yeah. In fact, you had a lot of you know,
little things in there about the filmmakingbusiness. I thought you had,
you know, because you your character, you guys were filmmakers in the movie.
You'd basically play ourselves. Man,Yeah, ok, yeah, that's

(21:55):
where it all come. I lovethose little almost like I felt inside jokes
going on and I was digging it. Yeah. Man, a lot of
that would I would say, almostevery story that you hear me and Vinnie
Blade talk about in the movie isa is a true story. That's fantastic.
Now, when you were coming upwith this idea, little things like
if Bigfoot smell spunk, you'll gocrazy? Like you are you sitting around

(22:21):
the room with all your buddies andjust throwing out the craziest things. How
did you just come up with whatsends Bigfoot into a rage? Well?
I was kind of talking to huntersand stuff about it, like with about
deer, you know, and differenttypes of animals that they hunt, and
they were saying like, dear willpee to mark their territory and and uh,
you know, and people were talkingabout my cat how he would go
around rubbing on stuff. They're like, well, he's marking the territory a

(22:42):
by rubbing on stuff. So Iwas like, well, I mean,
like, I wonder if he appliedthat to Bigfoot that we like took it
to the stream, that would beso weird and crazy that people would be
like, what the hell. Well, I would assume if if creatures get
mad at you piss them there,you did probably get mad? Did you
shit or you know, ejaculate aswell? Man? And I never thought

(23:04):
like Bigfoot, Yeah, if he'sout there, he's definitely marking his territory
and he would get seriously bent outof shape if you come along and take
a whizz. Yeah, yeah,I mean that seems to be a thing
with all wild animals, right,It's all about you got a pe to
marquee territory and if some other malecomes in there starts p and you're like,
dude, you and I got amajor problem. Now. Now,

(23:26):
was this like the first movie youmade all by yourself with crew or your
friends or I've made a lot ofmovies over the last twenty years that were
bad. As a producer and actor, and this was kind of like my
last of all. I was like, dude, I've had it. I've
had it with working on this craft. It's going nowhere. All these movies,
a lot of times the guys wouldjust like have nervous breakdowns and just

(23:48):
not finished the movie. So Igot I got the bright idea. I
was like, oh, man,that'll never happen to me. I finished
the movie, but the nervous breakdowndefinitely happened. Did you kick still going
on? Man, I'm still goingon. Did you kickstart the movie at
aur? Did you just fund ityourself? Well, we had some investors

(24:11):
interested all the way up until probablya few days before, and they just
goosted us. Man, they disappeared. So I talked to my wife and
the guy who plays Vinny Blades Billy, and I said, dude, I
think I think this is gonna beon us. You know, I'm gonna
have to just go out and emptyout the stadings and match out some credit
cards like Kevin Smith did, andjust see if we can make some magic

(24:33):
happen. And then then of thecrew would work on it either man,
Like all the crew people were like, dude, we're not working on this.
This is like this script is justnuts. I can't work on something
like just my wife are divorcing.Well, everyone pulled out. Man,
it was it was I said,dude, I've been shooting short films and
working on commercials and stuff. Iwas like, I think I can I

(24:55):
can wing this whole thing if youguys are willing to come out and just
help me set up some stuff.You know, I think I can do
it all on my own and Iand that's what I had to do.
It suck. Yeah, man,that's uh, that's that's impressive that.
Yeah, you believe so much youput up your own money because there's so
many kickstarters, so many craft fundiecampaigns going on. Uh, that's wow.
That's incredible. Now has that wedidn't get very much from ours.

(25:19):
I think we might have got thirtyfive hundred dollars from it. But the
interesting thing was along the way,every once in a while, some weird
call would have come in from somebodythat was an UPS fan of ours on
Facebook or whatever, and they'd belike, hey, man, meeting me
over here, and they can seeme like a thousand dollars check. It
was crazy. Wow, jeez,that's that's cool. Um, Now,
have you had any issues with piracy? Like, since you spent money,

(25:45):
have you been field thing? That'sthe thing. This is the most outraging
things because I think at this pointI probably got almost fifty thousand dollars sign
up in this thing. A lotof that went to the equipment that had
to buy all this equipment because Ididn't have it to buy a lot of
this goodment front of the movie.And then of course we put a lot
in the marketing and then getting itthrough quality control, getting it on Amazon,

(26:07):
and I to all that. Sowe're probably closed in on about fifty
gs and my money right now.Wow wow, oh, speaking of Amazon.
But I didn't think it. Inever thought it as a problem though,
because what I did was as Idid from test streaming with the movie
here just in Texas. I guidedin four theaters and we sold seven hundred
tickets for tifteen nas so, andwe sold a ton of merchandise, bringing

(26:30):
in like fourteen thousand dollars just toscore screaming. So my thought on that
was we're good to go, youknow, we should go ahead and release
this on physical. So you alsohad some issues with Amazon. They booted
you off, right. Yeah,we didn't even know it was going to
happen though. Basically Christmas Eve nighteveryone started calling me. I thought people

(26:53):
would be with their families or whatever, but I guess a lot of the
fans, I guess there was talkingabout one hundred people that were just like
waiting for just so they were likecalling me and texting me like when's it
gonna be an iTunes? And thenI guess it went on Central Time went
on about eleven fifteen, and thenthe other ones were taking at different times,
and then Amazon just never happened.And then Christmas Day people were getting

(27:15):
pissed off that it wasn't on Amazon. I guess they wanted for Christmas.
They wanted to watch the Cherokee Creamwith their family. Was okay, first
of all, that's nuts, butsecond of all, where the hell is
the movie? Why is it notup? And I just started channicking.
I started thinking, oh God,what they hell? Could it go and
went wrong? And I started talkingto our aggregator and distributed trying to find

(27:37):
out what was going on with them, and they were they were going to
be out of the office till atJanuary fourth, which wasn't gonna work for
me. So I finally got thenumber of somebody important there and I started
texting them, blowing up their phoneall day, and then they said,
we'll get in touch with Amazon findout. And the only thing Amazon ever
told him was it had offensive contentand it would not be airing on Amazon.
Wow. Wow, Um, NowI know it's back on because that's

(28:03):
how I rented it, because justlast week you posted the guess your fan
base rallied and something changed and Amazonput it back up. Yeah, dude,
that's the crazy thing. We're notone hundred percent sure how I got
back on, and I'm sure Amazonnever gonna tell us while they took it
off. But here's the thing Idid. If you there's another version of

(28:26):
the movie out there that you maynot have seen. We have the kidnappers
who introduced the movie and they alsoclosed the movie out. And what I
did was I told our aggregator,I said, hey, man, I
don't know who, just because younever know who's gonna put who's uploading the
movie to Amazon for that final upload, So I said, why don't you
just take out the kidnappers at thebeginning, because they may think that we're

(28:48):
like some crazy terrorists and that's whywe got just approved or something. And
they don't understand that we're characters inthe movie, you know, so they're
freaking out about these guys with schemaskon building. You don't hire the movie,
pie, so take it out andlet's try. Let's try to to
resubmit to Amazon one more time,and then all of a sudden it was

(29:11):
on. So I'm assuming it couldhave something to do with the kidnappers.
It could be they made a mistakethe first time just watched the movie.
We don't know what happened. Allwe know is people are originally approved for
December twenty fifth release, and thenit didn't happen, and stills it this
day. No one told us anythingfrom it. I mean, no one
will make an official comment. That'sinteresting. So it had nothing to do

(29:34):
with your dick that was in themovie, really, you have no idea.
Well, it's funny because everybody thinksthat that was gonna be the thing.
But I I researched it so much, and there's been so much dick
overloaded movie for a while. Imean, I can remember back when I
saw it forgetting Sarah Marshall and theyhad three dick shots of the lead character
and I was like, oh oh. And then after that, lately it's

(29:57):
just been dick, dick, dickseverything. I didn't have Diction Hereditary that
had some dick it um. Imean, oh, and did the new
Mandy has a dick in? Yeah? Yeah, look like for some reason,
it's almost cooler to put a dickin your movie now than any time
with girls like dick in there.But don't put no topless girls because Baywatch

(30:21):
had dick in it too, andno topless girls, which is weird because
guys would normally watch Baywatch for youknow, if you think there'd be a
topless girl. But they put dickin that too, So man, I
hope, I hope that's not atrend in horror movie. But man,
yeah, I can tell you aboutall this stuff. But even that wasn't
that one movie Hall Pass where oldWilson woke up he had like a big
black cock on his face. Rememberthat? Yeah? I don't remember that.

(30:45):
I'm getting now, I gotta lookit up, thank you. Yeah,
look at if you look at theunradied version of Hall Pass, Owen
Rosen passes out in the hot tuband he wakes up and he's got a
big old black talk on his trade. He see was a white guy with
a little cock, and he's like, he's like, hey, did you
guys switch places? And then uhand then getting hard man. Uh.

(31:07):
Look, Will Ferrell did the ultimatecarte. He went down on the guy
on the freaking broth book, Imean bath bathroom. Did you see that
one? No? Yeah, Kevinhartstaught him duty. If you're gonna survive
in jail, you gotta learn howto suck and did it. So he
makes him go into the bathroom togo down on a dude, and they
show like all the stuff. SoI was like, dude, if freak,

(31:30):
if they're gonna make me do allthat, I'm gonna make it even
better in mine. I'm gonna dosomething really crazy. You know it Actually
it was funny because I you know, I read about it, and I
don't know if I was listened toa podcast getting ready to talk to you,
I'm like, oh boy, Butwhen it happened, I thought it
was funny. And then when whenthe one stripper was doing what she was

(31:52):
doing to you, she just makesthis random comment about your baby nipples.
Like you just you just kept asa real life that's happened to me in
real life, dude. So Iwas like, I gotta put that in
logan. Oh my god, that'shilarious. Yeah, because I mean in
the middle of something like that happened, when someone's making a comment going like,
hey, why does it lean thisway? Or why was one ball

(32:14):
bigger than the other? What's upwith your nipples? You I do?
Can you just keep doing what you'redoing to shut thell up? It's even
funnier now that that literally happened toyou. That's amazing. Yeah, yeah,
it definitely has. But that's whatI told you. That was the
funny thing about the movie was Ikept looking for a writer to write the
movie, and I couldn't find anybody, So I started just basing it on

(32:36):
people. I knew the situations thathad happened to me in real life,
and I brought that to the movie. And then like even the thing with
Billy with the Squirter thing, whenI was writing the script, he came
over and he's like, Dude,I have sexually squirrel last night. Brother.
That's awesome. Um, Now withBigfoot, you know obviously you didn't

(32:59):
have tons of money to spend ona suit some crazy you know, cgi
or whatever. But for the comedythat you were presenting in their outrageousness,
I thought it were good. Likehow much did you spend on Bigfoot?
Oh? Gosh, well, youknow what, I can't remember the exact
budget on big Foot. It endedup being like in a whole effects budget.

(33:21):
I know if you look at allthe effects they were under, but
probably under six thousand dollars. Okay, wow, that's a lot. There
were there were people who wanted tocharge us like ten to fifteen thousand dollars
just for the big Foot a loan. So what I did was I went
on some Halloween uh like a Halloweencostume website, and I bought their best
big Foot costume. But the facethe facebook just like a chimpanzee. So

(33:43):
I was like, dude. SoI told them, I was like,
if you can alter the suit andjust make this space kick ass, they
were a good shape. So that'sthat's what we did. We trust.
But the thing that such was wedidn't we didn't know any but any of
these effects look like if you hada budget, you would normally do a
test, you know, to seewhat the big Foot gonna look like or

(34:06):
uh just see what some of theirfacts for. We didn't have any test
so we had no idea what thebig Foot was gonna look like until they
started making it on set. That'sawesome. You know it worked though,
because you you didn't put it inthe forefront. You kept it a little
bit of the shadows. You keptit, you know, getting his hands
and slashing people's faces. I meanright, and if we're a jobs method,

(34:27):
man, we took the jobs methodto the movie. You're like,
when she ain't working, do whatjobs did? But don't I even like
when you threw in the fact thatbecause you I mean, I'm gonna go
back here just a second. Yougot if you planned a bachelor party for
me, that's the worst bachelor partyto be kidnapped and take it out and

(34:49):
camping. Yeah, but anyway,I like it. Well, if my
real friend, my real friend PatLove kiddo, he's always want to go
camping and he believes in big butand he liked he leaves and you opos
and all that. So I waslike, now for his bachelor party,
we had to go gambling. Wedidn't get to go camping. We had
to go gambling, but my wifewas with his wife wife to be and

(35:12):
she did go to a dick bar. So again, that scene was based
on real life. Yeah, Itold you, it's all based on real
stuff and some of the yeah thedick bar was funny, even when the
one guy told her, like,come on, lady, you read a
dick bar. Yeah, Well,you know the reason I put that guy
in there. James Jaker is veryoutrageous. If you look him up on

(35:36):
YouTube or anything. He's a hugetactical guy. He has his own tactical
training, steeling. He like trainsthe stars like Jeremy Renner and stuff,
and very out spoken. At thetime when we cast him in there,
the dude had like a million followers, but since the movie came out,
he started getting banned from my YouTube, freaking Facebook, Instagram and everything.

(35:58):
I was like, oh shit,I think they help our sales. Now.
Oh man, now I know,uh, I know you're really busy,
and I want to keep you hereany longer than I need to.
But I always like to ask somebodythat's made a made a movie that you're
you know, you're you've been acting, producing, directing. Is there any
advice you could give to young filmmakersor older filmmakers like myself that try to

(36:21):
make a short. Here there anyadvice to, you know, for people
to follow their passion. Oh yeah, don't do it. You heard it
here first. Well dude, wellyou you touched on it earlier with the
piracy thing. Uh, it's justcrazy, Like I said, we I

(36:44):
mean, this movie has been out, it's been advertised probably to like four
million people, and the sales definitelydon't show that. It's just nuts.
It's just nuts. I would say, if you're gonna make a movie,
uh, you gotta you gotta dosomething like kind of Well, I think
we did everything right, but releasingthe movie on digital, I think that's
probably got in trouble. I thinkI think we releasing it on digital it's

(37:07):
probably the worst thing to do becausewe were building so much momentum doing the
theatrical screenings and making money from that. But once we put it out in
the world that where you had torely on people to be honest to pay
for it, it just doesn't happen. But people were paying. I mean
we were selling out three peop sellingout theater three hundred people at fifteen dollars

(37:30):
a ticket and it was just We'vebuilt a huge event around it where we
would have a comedian come and openthe show. Uh, we had a
red carpet there for the fans.We took pictures with them, and we
sold merchandise. That that was reallythat. Looking back now, that was
the key to making money with thismovie. But you get so excited,
going mild. We want to takethis to the masses, because if we're

(37:51):
getting this, you know, justin Dallas and Texas, we want to
take it worldwide and see what itcan do. But unfortunately it's not doing
that as of yet. Soul,would you make another movie after this experience?
Well, I don't know, man, and it's gonna be tough for
me to do it again. Thishas been a very long, long,
long process. I mean we couldgo an hour just talking about the Tragy

(38:14):
shit that's happened. But man,I think the thing that just sucks,
and I hate to be negative aboutit's just everything's against you as a filmmaker
now. I mean, when yougot you got piracy against you, you've
got YouTube's even against you. Man, Like YouTube sells are movie and they
and Google play sells it. Butevery time someone tires and puts it on
YouTube. It's like a living hellto get them to take it down,

(38:37):
Like they just don't want to takethe damn movie down. And you're like,
you're what are you stupid? You'reselling the movie? Why why do
we have to go through this processevery two days with you guys? And
then the Facebook thing. I don'tknow if it's because of election or whatever
happened, but as you guys know, they put some kind of damn algorithm

(38:58):
on there. So even though we'vegot ten thousand fans or whatever many on
there, there's only like seventy fivepeople who said they've actually heard the movies
out. Yeah right, yeah,I mean it's like they're it's just like
all these things are just like handcussing us from being able to do what
we want to do because we wewe've advertised through Facebook for the last three

(39:19):
years and probably spent about five sixthousand dollars already, and now to go,
hey, we know you got tenthousand fans, but you can't talk
to them, right, Yeah,I hate Facebook? Well I know,
but what are you supposed to do? And now they bought Instagram too,
so it's like we've got all theseWe've got like sixteen thousand fans across these
platforms that we can't reach, andthen you can go, well, I'm

(39:42):
gonna just email all sixteen thousand,but like after ten emails, they shut
your countdown and say that you're spammingPeople's just like, what the fuck am
I doing with this social media stuff? Like, I don't know how supposed
to reach my fans. Yeah,it's an don't That's frustrating. And then
you know, like a lot ofthe bigger horror websites like dread Central,

(40:06):
Bloody Disgusting, its Pangoria, they'veall kind of got into producing their own
movies now, so they don't reallycare about talking to indies filmmakers now.
Jeez, that sucks. So I'vebeen trying to reach those guys forevers,
you know what I mean. God, we had this great story and we
were being covered everywhere about the wholeAmazon fiasco and stuff, But to this
day, I still can't get thoseguys to talk to us about the movies.

(40:28):
Wow. Yeah, that's that's justto tell it. That's the hard
part. It's just like, dude, it's just like they it seems like
it's getting harder and harder for thethere was more avenues to get your work
out there and seem but if you'reif you're trying to make money doing it,
it's becomes so much harder now thanit was. Yeah, that's when

(40:50):
Kevin Smith made Clarks right. Heputs thirty thousand and forty thousand dollars whatever
ended. I think it was thirtythousand, and then they sell it.
They hope to sell it for amillion dollars or whatever. It's sundance,
but as you guys, it's nolonger. Sundance's just like celebrity dance.
Yeah, it's all about celebrities andthere's no really new talent coming up with
regular new actors or anything. It'sall about, Hey, let's just use

(41:12):
all these celebrities and turn it intoa big party and celebrate ourselves. Oh
yeah, yeah, man, Ihate That's why I hate to be negative
you guys. But man, it'shard to figure out because you got I
guess the best advice should spend aslittle money as possible, you know,
spend as little as possible, butmake it make it the best you possibly
can, which is what we did. Yeah, you know, and I
don't think you know you're being negative, You're being you know, you're being

(41:37):
real because I know, like it'seasy to like, you know, watch
a movie and like, man,I really want to make one. I
want to make a movie. Butthen when you hear like the struggles,
because you don't always hear that.Sometimes you hear like the funny stories that
happened, said hear about this orthat. But man, you you've had
a hell of a time with thismovie. And it's sad to me because

(41:58):
I thought it was freaking hilarious.Yea, and I enjoyed the shit out
of it. Well that's awesome,man, that's what we're going for.
And I told a lot of people, I said, it might be a
slow burn, you know, itmight be. It's gonna be it might
take like six months to a yearto catch on. Yeah. If you
remember back when they did with himJohn Carpet, I did a lot of
his movies, they took a longtime to catch on. Oh yeah.

(42:22):
And when people first saw Halloween theysaid it was the worst piece of shit
they ever saw. Oh man,I mean, and I think Big Trouble
and a Little China, and ittook forever. I mean, they were
like, oh, this movie sucks. And an Office Space. I think
when Office Space came out, itdid its just bombs so bad at the
box office. But that but nowthat's considered a classic. Yeah, I
love all those movies. Could youimagine. I think the whole thing is

(42:45):
it's just gonna it's gonna be wordof mouth in time, you know.
And then of course we've got theseidiots that watch the movie that just trying
to be offended by everything. Ohhave you been experiencing people just watching it
just so they could be offended andcomplained to you? Oh yeah, yeah,
yeah. I get calls, Iget I get emails, I get
the weirdest post, I get theweirdest damn post. I'm telling you,

(43:07):
man, I mean, it's justlike shit doesn't make sense. I guess.
For a while there, I hadNative Americans upset about the poster in
the name of the movie because theythought we were insulting Cherokee Indians and they
thought that that the big Foot wasan Indian savage. Just like, what
the hell are you guys talking aboutthe poster? They just jumped to conclusions.

(43:29):
Well, yeah, and then whenwe were the kidnappers and we were
Randy We're like, hey, youdon't be a piece of shit, dick
sucking butt fier or something that theythey thought we were making fun of ge
They thought we were making fun ofgays you. But I'm like, dude,
to me, a butt firer.It is just somebody that like RAPS
system bends us over because they're stillin our movie. We're not talking about
you. Yeah, but I waslike, dude, are you not allowed

(43:51):
to You can't call somebody a dicktucking cock tucker anymore. That means they're
eight. I was like, Idon't know what that means. Should I
just not open my mouth? Idon't know. He sometimes it just makes
you laugh. It's just an insult. Yeah, Like I told him,
I was like, dude, wecall our fans motherfuckers seeing any of our
Kidnapper videos, were like, hey, we want to think, oh,

(44:14):
use motherfuckers buying the fucking movie apiece of shits? You know. So
it's just the whole thing was forus was just like say, Loft the
customers be funny, be offensive,but it's funny to us, Well,
consider us motherfucker's todd Yeah, yeah, because you guys are some cool.
You guys are some cool motherfucker.Yeah, I know you're watching my motherfucking

(44:37):
movie, your motherfucker. All right, now, you got a lot going
on, buddy, this has beenawesome. I enjoyed your movie. I'm
gonna tell as many people as Ican. Yes, um, so you
guys, Yeah, just word ofmouth posted anywhere you can. If you
have it, reviewed it, tryto review it. I mean, like
freaking IMDb won't post people's reviews sometimes, and now I'm being told Amazon it's
topping a lot of people's reviews too. Yeah. Like it like a lot

(45:01):
of people came up and said iftheir accounts came up and said you haven't
spent enough money on Amazon to beable to review a movie. We're like,
what the fuck? It's like yougotta spend fifty dollars before you get
out a Cherokee Creak review. Whatthe fuck? That's insane? God,
it's weird, man. But yeah, I mean, just like any platform
that you watch it on, reviewit, tell as many friends. I

(45:22):
guess. Now we're gonna have totry to get people to actually if they
see a post or something about themovie, just tag somebody on there.
If you tag them on Facebook,maybe that'll cause him to look at it
because it seems like just trying toshare the damn things isn't doing it because
the damn the algorithm thing they gotgoing on. Because I honestly get I

(45:44):
hear from the same seventy five peoplealmost every single day, but I don't
like I'm not reaching. Like everyonce in a while I said something out
to a specific person, They're like, I didn't even know the movie came
out. Geez, well, we'redefinitely gonna tell people about it. Tid.
I love awesome and you guys wereawesome. Man, thank you so
much. Is there you guys haveany other crazy questions you want to ask

(46:04):
us? I'm holding books, no, man, not at the moment.
I mean, if I think ofone, I'm definitely gonna message you about
it. Yeah, but I dothink guys like you and the fans and
all the women and everything. Buta lot of people said the women were
gonna be against us for the movieand they're gonna black protests. It hasn't
even been women at all. Womenloved the Movie's yeah, it's just a

(46:24):
fun movie. It's it's been theseguys overseas that got mad at me calling
them you know, a piece ofshit talks, sucking buck tired motherfuckers.
They're like, they're like, we'regonna we're gonna show you, we're gonna
give your movie a one on IMDb, but we're not gonna leave a review.
We're just gonna go on there andraiding and bring it down to like
a four point zero. Wow.They tried to bring it down to a

(46:47):
one, but our fans like jumpedon there and started trying to bring it
up, but we just got hammeredwith ones. Yeah, you know,
I wish they didn't have radis likethat. People just slam a one and
not leave it review. It's likethat's bullshit, Like why did you give
me a one? Yeah? Atleast stupid man. I mean, like
they're honestly just completed. It's likeI would have a hard time giving anybody

(47:09):
a one that completed a movie,because I know how hard it is.
It's like I judge movies on theproduction value. And one of the things
that was I really focused on ourmovie was the sound. I mean I
had to go on and clean upevery single damn word and that's like watching
paint drives for money up, cleaningup dialogue is like freaking nightmare. And
now I know why. Guys,when I was asking them if they could

(47:30):
help me, they're like, oh, there's twenty five thousand dollars. I'm
like, okay, well, nowI know why you charge twenty five thousand
dollars because working on audios to suck. But it's a very important part.
I think it's probably the most importantpart of movies. And a lot of
independent films suffered because they spend moneyon like a you know, a ten
or twenty thousand dollars camera, butthey'll use some radio shack bikes. Yeah.

(47:54):
Nothing against radio Shack. I don'teven know if they're in business anymore,
but you know, you gotta getmoney around yep. Now radio shafts
giving you a one star yep radioshots going after me now ship. I
think they made made bankrupt already.I'm not sure Amazon put them out a

(48:15):
business. Yeah, pretty much.Tell everybody where they can find your movie
and support this movie. Right now. You can find Cherokee Creek on Facebook
under a Cherokee Creek movie. Youcan find it on Instagram under Cherokee Creek
movie. And we have a Twitteraccount that we just started. It's Cherokee
Creek something but I don't remember,but it shouldn't be too hard to find.

(48:37):
I'm not familiar with the Twitter thing. I'm just learning Twitter. So
awesome. We'll put links in theshow notes. Tom, thank you so
much. This has been an absolutepom. Then I'm glad randomly on Facebook
I got to see a Cherokee Creekpost so I had the opportunity to hang
out with you. Awesome, Awesome. I'm spent the tan grand on that

(48:59):
app for you. Yeah, Todd, you have an awesome evening. Man,
it's okay too, all right,bye bye by all right one more
time, Todd, thank you soso very much. Yeah, that was
an incredible interview. I had agreat time. Um very you know when
he's like any advice for filmmakers andhe said, don't make a movie,

(49:22):
it's like, oh, it's it'sit's the industry. You know, for
me growing up, you know,watching Jaws and movies like that, that's
just you know, you want tomake a movie. You think it's this
amazing thing, but you can seethe struggle sometimes with independent filmmakers. Todd.
You know, I understand everything youwent through, but hey, you

(49:45):
still made a movie that we watched. Oh yeah, and you reached us
all the way here in Pennsylvania,and I was loving it. I was
digging it. I mean, Imean even even that one scene where he
had his dick out and I hadto be like norm, like norm,

(50:06):
like that one. Immediately Liia's likeall right, hey, I looked at
lious, like my dick's bigger,right, But besides that, it was
hilarious. No, I still wantedto ask him if that was a prosthetic
or not. Well, I don'tthink it was. Bro Yeah, he
showed up, he didn't have itwas definitely not a prosthetic. He didn't

(50:30):
have the budget to go get up. I don't have a prosthetic and my
own penis got to use it.Yeah. I love the fact that when
he wrote the script, he wasjust throwing a lot of you know,
true stories, true stories and thingsthat really happened. The fact that he
was getting a BJ or whatever.And in the middle of it, so

(50:53):
whoever was doing it just stopped andand you know, commentary on his nipples.
That's hilary. And then he tookthat experience and put it in the
movie. Right. To me,that was brilliant. And I thought it
was hilarious. Yeah, I likedthe movie. I did not know what
to expect going into it, basedon just reading a few things here there.
Um, when it was all wrappedand you know, listen and I

(51:15):
looked at each other and was done, and we were laughing and talking about
what this scene? In that scene, I don't know many it was a
lot of fun. You're right,Uh, maybe there's some slow parts,
but you know, indie filmmaking,it's not like you have a budget to
have base Blosians everywhere. No.But but when they was all those two

(51:36):
hours long, it's like an hourand fifty something like that. What do
you an eighty six minute guy?No, okay, but you said about
some slow parts, it wouldn't hurtto cut some stuff out. Well,
you know what, here's Jeff tellyou how to make a movie. I
really loved a lot of the deathscenes that were going down. They were

(51:57):
amazing. If any that's the bestpart of like just to see those death
scenes. That's makes it worth watchingit, you know what I mean?
They were so good. It's theone stripper on the head knock right.
I don't want to ruin the scenebecause it was so good, but it

(52:17):
was hilarious. There's even that scenewhere the dude's watching the uh the one
guy get it on with the ohand he's jacking off in the bushes and
he turns around there's Bigfoot and heends up spun on him and then makes
Bigfoot mad bot angry. I know, I had a great time. I

(52:38):
definitely think if this movie sounds likeit's up your alley, go rent it.
Support Indy, Harror, support Todd. He was freaking hilarious. Yeah.
I mean, if you can lookat this as just a comedy,
go rent it because it will makeyou laughs. Yeah, it really is.
I mean it is it. It'scomedy. Harror, Yeah, harror

(52:59):
because they know well And there wasthat one scene where the Bigfoot stomped on
the dude's head. Well but heblazes was I was, Yeah, he
got his head squashed. They youknow, for the budget, which I
can't remember what he said, he'she's but after talking. Yeah, But
I don't know if that was justmaking the movie right with marketing things like

(53:21):
that, you see, But Idon't know. I thought they did a
good job. I would be extremelyproud to put something like that to go
with my friends. Oh yeah,yeah, especially about Bigfoot. It might
it might. Email a conversation withTodd, I said, yeah, I
wrote a comic book where Bigfoot waskind of like a cool dude with the

(53:42):
spaceship, like completely opposite. Yeah, comparison between the two. I mean
it was a little disappointed we didn'tget to see more of Bigfoot. But
you know, as we were talkingabout it, you know, comparing it
to Jaws. You know, sometimesless is more, right, right,
well, you know, and duh, everybody knows this. But the reason
less is more in Jaws is becausethe ship wasn't working right right, And

(54:07):
in this case, I thought less, uh was more because when they did
use you know, even when hewas killing like you knew who it was
Bigfoot. Oh yeah, and itwas hilarious. I dug it. Uh,
So go check this out. I'llput links in the show notes.
You can get it on Amazon,Cherokee Creek. Todd, You're awesome.

(54:28):
Your movie was awesome. I hopeyou have continued success with this despite people
pired it. Uh, You're gonnafind a fan base and people were definitely
gonna dig this. Oh well,I mean the way that the way it
ended It just totally opened it upfor Cherokee Creek too. Well. When
we asked him, like about filmmaking, you know, but that would be

(54:50):
badass if you know, as hisfan base crew to the point we're like,
yeah, we'll definitely crowd fun andhelp you make part two. I'd
be kick ass. All right,why don't we take a break they We'll
be right back. Hello, thisis the Sasquatch aka Bigfoot, but you

(55:14):
can just call him to Frank.And when I'm not stomping around the woods
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That's right, Paranormal Punchers. Theytalked about all things paranormal and they're hilarious.
Go find them on iTunes, Stitcherradio, Google Play, and Paranormal
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(55:37):
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(56:30):
private now, so that everybody listeningnot thinking that bars a completely empty We
got to run a little private roomhere right, Well, eventually we're gonna
fill with people, but this islike the first dry run. So Norm
was here and some of you know, the employees were hanging out, but
we had to make sure we couldeven do this without problems like whatever just

(56:52):
kicked on. But whatever, that'sthe whole point. It's called the disco
room. We need to be herenow. Um, Jeff, anything else
that you wanted to bring out aboutCherokee Cherokee Creek. Um, good movie
worth watching. Go out rent it, check it out. It's you know,

(57:15):
even if you're not a big horrorfan, check it out for the
comedy aspect of it. It's reallyworth it. Definitely lish. No.
I concur with you, Jeff.I know it doesn't happen very often,
but I do I think it's agreat movie. I gotta admit I was

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a tad worried that you would notlike it. Really, I you know,
I wasn't sure if I was gonnalike it either. But I love
Bigfoot, so I wasn't sure.Yea, in this line, I mean,
I barely call this a Bigfoot movie. Yeah, it's actually not really
a big Foot movie. It's moreof a like comedy horror. Yeah,

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the reactions in the lives of thesegroups of people that are camping in a
bad spot. I don't know,man, it's a big Foot movie.
I mean, Bigfoot was in it. It was the main reason that everybody
died. True. I mean that'snot a spoiler. Not everybody died.
No, that's right, spoilers.I'm just saying he's the reason people were

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dying there. Yeah, not giveingspoilers out still fresh out there at Amazon.
Yeah. Yeah, I'm definitely good. I gotta get on in a
leave a review and find out ifAmazon will let me or not. Well,
all right, I definitely spent morethan Yeah, I think I have
him the last week. Yeah,okay, Yeah, I think we're okay.
Yeah, Now, of all thebig Foot movies, you watched.

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Where would you put this in therankings? Oh, considering there haven't been
that many bigfoot movies, Well,I was so amazing that he was in
one with Judd Nelson was Bigfoot Wars. Yeah. Uh, and when it
came out he was like, thisthing sucks. I'm gonna make my own.
I mean that right there, boom, that's amazing. Yeah right,

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yeah, they're actually I think there'sbeen a a decent amount of bigfoot movies.
We just don't hear about them wherethey're just not good. Again.
Number one, I'm gonna go withexist ye yeah, by the Tractor Blair
Witch Project. I'm a fan ofthat. I know some people do not
like it. I thought it wasfreaking great. Oh yeah, I would

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say it's number one for me.Yeah, but I put this. I
put Cherokee Creek over a Willow Creek. Yeah. And bobcat gold WA's he's
a good guy, not slamming them. The movie was good. That just
overall yeah, right, for me, it was that movie was a little
bit more God, I know,he'll never listen because we're not that.

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I thought. I was more interestedas a travel aspect, where they were
going out and visiting the spot,the different spots in the Pacific Northwest.
That was more interesting than when theywere sitting in a tent for twenty minutes
hearing noises. Yeah. Mind youif I was in a tent and the
rocks are started getting thrown and therewas wooden knocking and grounds, and I'd

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be like, I would definitely pissmyself. I would have Did they did
they even survive the first night?Yeah? I can't, okay, because
I would have been like, we'regoing We're going home. Sorry. And
you and you two are the onesthat want to go out on the big
trip. It's he look at himterrified. Let me, let me explain.

(01:00:38):
Yes, I would like to goout with Bigfoot. Was siding,
not in a tent. Tents,yeah, camper, even though Bigfoot can
still push that over. Yeah,let alone rip the doors off. And
I would not. I would notbe out there on armed. I would
have a side arm, possibly ashotgun. Um well, a knife.

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I don't know that's gonna do goodsBigfoot, but it's good for you know,
skinting some fish, not like I'mgonna catch fish for dinner. Being
a can um uh and some bearspray I mean, and not even like
all of that is not even forbigfoot, because literally, you gout in
the wild, especially where bigfoot sightingsare black bears, brown bears. Like

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that's the one thing with all thesemovies with camping, Like I feel like
people go out there, um withnothing, but you know, a six
pack of beer and they're dicking theirhand. Yeah, like there's some crazy
shit in the woods, right.Oh yeah, but I mean there's plenty
of people that go out into thewoods and just have a good old time.

(01:01:47):
Oh it's pointed. Sorry Jeff pauseat this point, like get closer
to your mic bro. Oh sorry, yeah, he just paused, Like
what do you stay at? Asshole? Yeah, a whole new set up
here at Funks are table here isa little low so you know, I'm
pretty just like or something. Hehates leaning over Yeah, crouching over here
for the microphone is kind of apaint Sorry, Um, where was it?

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Yeah, I mean plenty of peoplego out in the woods and have
a great time just camping. Youdon't always have to go out being super
prepared. Well, no, Iwould if you were going out, yeah
I know you would, But ifyou were going out looking for bigfoot,
Oh, I'd have all kinds ofyou're you're not going to the local campground
with a leg, you're going touse that you can rant You're going out

(01:02:34):
nowhere, right, and who knowswhat's gonna happen. So I just watched
these movies, uh a couple ofweeks ago. One was called Chupacaba Territory
and the other one was called CatskillsPark. Uh watched that with us.
I could do a podcast with mybuddy, Jack Saint Uh was our filmmaker.
Jack Saint Hunter was buddy just tobat but you know, I liked

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it. But in both the movies, these people went out with tents and
not even the proper clothes to beout. I'm not a survivalist at all,
but come on, the one girlin the Cheaper Cabra movie, UM,
I feel like I made a commentthat was like, why is she

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wearing a skirt? Because they're goingcamping, She's got to look good,
right. We just watched a YouTubevideo. I won't say the name because
I'm not going to crap on thembecause I really actually enjoy their show because
they go to places all over theworld. It's just a couple. But
they were in Honolulu and they weretaking a hike up this mountain and the
trail was wicked muddy and very narrowand very steep, and they were in

(01:03:45):
flip flops. Yeah, and Iwas like, dumbass, I was like,
what Now. At the end ofthe video they did say we were
terrible footwear. We should have knownbetter. Well, the whole time I'm
watching is like, this is howyou fall down and break your face.
Yeah, this is how like,hey, snake come out and bites your
big toe. Yeah, put onsome proper hiking footwear. I don't even

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know why I care. It's notlike I go camping because camping sucks.
No, It's just I mean,that's in a tent. In a tent,
mind you. I mean that's partof the whole movie making process.
Whenever you see a movie and someoneis out in the wilderness, it's like,
why doesn't he have at least havea damn jacket on because it's cold.

(01:04:29):
That was Castico Park. The guyhad like a sports code on.
Yeah, and it was snowy,right right, So I mean, I
don't know if I mean, I'massuming they're writing it into the plot because
you know, these dumb ass peopleare going out into the woods. They
don't know any better, and theyget thrown into this situation. Because I
don't know how good it would be. If a guy that's knows everything about

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outdoors and everything goes out it's totallyprepared, it might not be as good
as a I mean, I dohave to admit you're right, You're right,
Yes, it would fuck out themovie go ahead. I do have
to admit that there are moments whenI don't think about what I'm wearing,
and then I regret it later.I feel like this past weekend, I

(01:05:16):
was wearing like these high heels andum pantyhose, and I was like,
it's like twenty degrees outside? Whatam I doing? Why did I do
this? Well? U with thatthough, is because we went to my
stepfather's service funeral. He we howdo you say that he passed on?

(01:05:38):
We laid him to rest eternal sleep. I forget, I forget how they
said it. Now he was apilot in World War two Korea and Vietnam.
Wow, now he being a pilot, he did say he he told
my mom, and my mom toldme, but um that he definitely saw

(01:06:00):
a ufl ye cool. So yeah, you know, just like, yeah,
awesome guy. You know the labelstepfather weird sometimes in this case it
should have been father awesome guy.Uh So when we had a service,
yeah, and it was bitter bittercold, it didn't work. They looked

(01:06:21):
super cute, but they were notthe best thing to wear that day.
Was it local? Yeah it wasokay, Yeah it was cold. Yeah,
good guy. I would say,yeah, like you know, everybody
understands that. You know, thesevets. Uh So, my stepfather,
thank you for your service, restof peace, and every vet thank you

(01:06:41):
for your service. Uh yeah,they did a great job. I honored
him well. And I wonder ifhe I wonder I never got a chance
to talk to him since he sawUFOs. I wish I would have had
a chance to sit down and reallylike ask him what it looked like,
what was it doing with the characteristics? Was it? How was it flying?
I wish I would have had anopportunity to ask him. Not that,

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because there's also a theory that Bigfootis an alien. Yes not not
the one in Jerokeoe Creek. Butyou don't know, maybe you never know,
but there wasn't an origin story toit or anything. No, Well,
I guess. I mean, ifhe was an alien trapped on Earth
after a while he got sick.Yeah, yeah, if he came into

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their territory, he was trying toclear his territory out, so he get
picked back up by a rescue cruise. We had to keep these people out.
I don't know, because it wasall restricted area. What would you
do if you actually ran into Bigfoot? It would really depend on the circumstances.
Like if I'm just out hiking somewhere, I'd probably you poop a little

(01:07:53):
bit. I don't think so,but I would definitely freeze and I put
my hand on my gun and waitto see what it did. Do you
think if there's a creature that thereis a big foot? By now he
knows what that is. So ifyou put your hand on it, he's
like, he's gonna instantly go intodefense mode. Well, he's got to

(01:08:15):
understand. It might just sound isthe shape I've got to know. I
mean, if I'm out hiking,I usually have a side arm, so
I just kind of do the putmy hand on it in the hole store.
I wouldn't draw or anything, andjust kind of wait and see what
it does. All right, Sohe came at me. I definitely come

(01:08:39):
at me, bro, and that'dbe it for one of us, right
man, I don't know what Ido. That would be like a childhood
dream. I mean I would befrozen. I'm I assume I would just
be frozen. I mean, partlyfear, part like is this real?
Yeah, I mean really, it'dbe kind of like how I teach you

(01:09:00):
to act when you approach or seeany kind of predator in the wild,
You freeze. I don't think Ido the whole you know, start screaming
and make yourself look bigger. ButI definitely, you know, you back
away. You never turn your back, make yourself look bigger and scream and
make a bunch of noise. Imean, it depends on the animal,

(01:09:21):
how big a human can make themselves. It's supposed to wear bear is always
gonna be bigger. It's gonna happen. It's supposed to work with black bears
because black bears aren't very and maybethese don't give a shit. They're like,
no, they're not. They're moretimid than like a grizzly. Can't
imagine it definitely wouldn't work with apolar bear. No, if you if

(01:09:43):
you meet a polar bear in thewild, you're pretty much what about it,
grizzly, you're close to being You'reyou're pretty much fucking yeah grizzlies and
ne're streaming and catching some major salmon. You could probably sneak away. Yeah
maybe, um, any of thewell, just it's black bears because they're
more docile. Docile. What ifthere's like levels a big foot. What

(01:10:09):
if there's like a big foot,there's a bigot eat you right away?
Yeah, you got we got saswell. You got down in Florida they
called the skunks. You got sasquatch, you big foot, you got the
jetti you got in Australia that yougot the what is it the yawi?
Yes, yawe, that's it?Uh, what's it the in Indo?

(01:10:32):
What's it? What's called the ebugogo? Oh? Yeah, and over
like in Thailand or something like yeah, oh yeah, that's That's the weird
thing about the story of this,like, uh, and a lot of
continents on this little planet we're flyingon, there's reports of a big foot
that it's a different names sometimes thefur color is different. So what if

(01:10:58):
well, again, it's what ifyou run into this type of big foot,
and he's pretty chill. He's likewhatever, you're making a lot of
noise. You're trying to make soundingto look big, but I'm bigger.
And he just walks away, andanother of be like, oh no,
you're dead. Like I said,it's all got that. We'll see what
happened to do. You don't lookthat big and you're making a lot of
noise, which just pissing me off. I'm just gonna eat you. Well,

(01:11:18):
it's kind of like, what thehell else are you gonna do?
Just kind of stand there and say, hey, big foot, don't eat
me. And you could not outruna big foot, just like you can't
out can't bear, you can't outrunanywhild And I'm all like that I can
out run a turkey. I wouldbet money that you cannot. They're pretty

(01:11:39):
Oh, this is a challenge.How fast can a turkey run faster than
you? A wild turkey, notone that they raise. We're talking wild
animals. I will think I canoutrun a turkey. That turkey is pissed
off. And once you're once youhe will catch you and peck you.
How fast? Yeah, let's justlooking to the Googles. M dude,

(01:12:00):
I could definitely out run a turkey. I bet you you can't. Are
they do? They are? Theylike long distance? Like? Why peter
out before? I think? No? I think speedwise I can beat I
could crush a turkey. They can. A turkey can run as fast as
twenty five miles an hour. Theycould, and when in flight, they

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can reach speeds of about fifty fivemiles per hour. Damn, so they
can like come all right, allright, let me rephrase that I could
definitely out run a possum. Uh, I did not know a turkey can
run. Yeah, now you're thinkingPossum's wrong. I think you were thinking

(01:12:42):
sloth. I could out round inboth of those. Wow, turkey,
man, that is some speed rightnow. If a turkey can good twenty
five miles an hour, how fastcan the possum go? About four miles
per hour? That trail? Theyrun a possum? That's what Google says.
You get hit by a car beforeyou get to be Yeah, I
thought possible. That's impressive. RightsActually big foot runs Yeah, not that

(01:13:11):
fast. I think if I googlethat, it's not gonna be accurate.
Horse can do like forty straight intoyour microphone. Sorry, yeah, the
technical difficulties are recording live at anotherlocation the new mic stamp. Uh.
Yeah, because a horse can dolike forty forty five and that's twenty five

(01:13:32):
to thirty a horse, Well that'swhat Google says. No, I'm thinking
like a thoroughbread Kentucky Derby type ofhorse. They can do like forty forty
five. Okay, how force?Okay? How force? Sorry? A
horse is a horse, of course, of course, h thirty seven miles

(01:13:53):
per hour. Really that's an average. Yeah, a thoroughbread Kentucky Derby racehorse.
I could have swore they were fasterthan that. I was a bear.
I know a bear can outrun you. Oh my god. Yeah.

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And I'm not gonna repeat on theshow because I already talked about it.
But I ran into a bear anda mother bear and cubs years and years
ago when I was big into mountainbiking. But trust me, the fear
on a bike, you could probablyoutrun them. And well that's what I
did, was turned my bike aroundand I pedaled and pedaled. I never
looked behind me. I just keptI looked forward and just ran and hoped.

(01:14:35):
I never felt the breath of thatbear. Yeah, that's they say,
that's the worst thing you can do, right, that is, um
turning your back on and oh Ithought running into a mama bear with cubs,
the whole running away thing because thenthey hear prey and they'll chase you.
Yeah, but I was on abike. I thought I had a
shot, and I did because Ithink the bear looked at me laughed at

(01:14:58):
being such a pussy. Yeah,all right, lish but it was probably
was okay. According to Google,they can run fifty feet per second,
which is ridiculous. That's a lotof miles per hours. Yeah, so
the technically then that bear bike ornot that bear had me if she can

(01:15:21):
if the mother bear could run fiftywhat was it feet per second? You
have Siri? It's fast, It'sit's really fast forward. Yeah, Google's
being um a poop face. SoI'm having issues here. It's like talking

(01:15:42):
about fifty yards and three seconds orit doesn't matter and think it explaits to
like if if that mama bear choseto get me when I got thirty four
miles an hour, thank you,I was not doing that in a bicycle.
What was the max I probably doingwith fifteen going up on the wooded.
Yeah, if dirt bike in thewild, yeah, I would probably

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doing bike and I definitely get hittwenty plus oh yeah sure. But in
the wood I probably was only doingtwelve thirteen maybe yeah, yeah, it
would have had me either way.I survived, and I'm here today to
talk weird silly stuff with my friends. That's what I thought. Watch Cherokee

(01:16:29):
Creek. Yeah worth it. Yes, that's a great way into the show.
Go watch Cherokee Creek. Rent that, do not pirate it. Help
Todd out. Todd's awesome. Goodguys, to thank you for spending your
valuable time with us today. Thatwas awesome. I loved it, man,
I would love part two. Thatwould be cool. I think that

(01:16:53):
cool this time. Bigfoot is analien. Yeah, so with all kinds
of alien sexs okay um. Atthe very end of the movie, obviously
it was. I thought it waspretty o that the people the cops knew
about big Foot. I felt thattoo a little bit. But you know,

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that's always been like a thing becausethey because they heard the roar and
there then the cops were like,mmm, that's that's always been That's always
been a thing. Man. Themilitary, the government knows that the existence
if you well, Jeff, youknow this. But David Pilotti's uh missing
for one one love that stuff.There's one story that he talks in his
books about a kid that went missingand all of a sudden, you know,

(01:17:38):
the police were there and they hadyou know, people you know looking
for the kid, but the militaryshowed up was a special Forces team that
had nothing to do with the copsor the search party. Right, they
did their own thing. Like forme, it's like, well, they
knew, yes, they if theyshowed military or the government knew something extras

(01:18:00):
weird was going on and they neededto get to the bottom of the cops
did, right, because unless let'sjust say, for instance, you have
special Forces doing local training, they'renot going to call in special Forces for
a man hunt for a mission child. Yeah. So if you haven't uh
you know, the local cops andvolunteers out there looking for this missing kid

(01:18:24):
and then a special Forces team showsup, that's you got that's odd,
Like that's because they know So ifyou if you go with that theory,
then there there's something the w wasthey know about. Maybe one of them
got out of hand. Yeah,because um, if I if I remember
that story and it had special forcesto like, it had nothing to do
with Bigfoot. That story, itwas just the no that story, there

(01:18:47):
was no There was theories, butno nothing. David Polotti has never confirmed
any of his theories. Now,he just tells you the story. You
take from it what you will.Well, I mean, I've watched probably
all of his videos. I'm fascinatedwith the whole Missing for one one stuff.
Yeah, if to our listeners,if you're if you ever need something

(01:19:09):
to do for a good little reador something just on the internet, do
a search or I'm missing for oneone that on YouTube. It's fascinating stuff
about the the incredible numbers of peoplethat go missing in national parks. But
that he's always said he'll never saywhat his opinion is. He wants you

(01:19:31):
to read his book and do theresearch and come up with Yeah, he's
not going to tell you what tothink. He's gonna have you think about
it's exact interesting. Yeah. Whoknew this whole episode would be about Bigfoot?
Yeah? Dang, all right,we've been going on for a while
now. I had a great time. I love you guys. Can't wait

(01:19:51):
to have another beer. So Funksis the place. Folks is the place.
Until next time, everybody keep upwaters a broad let sky scream,
not Wi water will sit not shabefore wanting to be trying to want to

(01:20:19):
train such a way to say,start into a church. I plass alung
the week. May I get outof my dang your fa