October 15, 2025 • 45 mins
0:00-15:06- Former IU Quarterback Chris Dittoe joins. Dittoe shares why he thinks IU is off to the start they are on, the feeling as a former player seeing the Hoosiers atop of College Football, and more. Dittoe also shares his thoughts on the Curt Cignetti to Penn State rumors and on Cignetti as a coach.
15:06-32:42- Pop Tarts are entering the Protein Game. Also, Ralph Reiff of RalphReiff.com joins to share the latest injury information for the Colts players. Reiff discusses Mooney Ward’s second concussion this season, AR’s orbital fracture, and more.
32:42-45:44- IndyStar Colts Reporter Joel A Erickson joins. Erickson discusses if Kenny Moore will be back to playing on Sundy, the latest news from practice and more. Erickson shares his thoughts on Laiatu Latu, Brett Rypien and Riley Leonard. Also, when will AD Mitchell make a comeback.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
He is a guy that played four years of football
for Indiana, throwing over thirty one hundred yards for the Hoosiers,
and I know is hyped up about the great start
they've gotten off to talking about former quarterback Chris Dido.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Yeah, Jake, you hear me.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
There we go. Yeah, all right. So here's the thing, man,
You've got to be completely pumped up about this, and
so I want to begin simply with this, What is it?
What is it about this team when you look at
it that jumps out at you where you say, that's
why they're winning and that's what makes them different. Is
there any one thing you can point towards?
Speaker 3 (00:35):
You know, that's a great question, and I think it's
a question Indiana fans have been asking themselves really the
last year and a half, probably since the for me,
the UCLA game from last.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Year when we went out there and took it to them,
when I think we still didn't know what we had
and we beat them soundly. And then we went through
the season, started ten and zero, obviously, played Ohio State
and struggled, then beat Perdue, played Notre Dame and struggle,
So that last year was still you know, complete euphoria
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for every Indiana fan and Indiana football fan out there.
And then we get to this season and you go
through the first three games expected to win, you win them.
You start the Big Ten season against Illinois, who nobody
thinks we're gonna win outside of you know, the people
in Bloomington or die hard Indiana football fans, and we
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just blow their doors off. We beat iowas you know,
in a very tough, physical game. And then so we've
got a one thousand pound guerrilla staring at us in
Oregon and still I'm still waiting for that ball to drop,
and it's just hasn't and we, you know, and as
we watch, I've watched the Oregon game and they do
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everything right and they're so locked in, from the special
teams to the defense to the offense. I mean for
us to be to run in our kickoff specialist and
absolutely drill a fifty year eight for fifty eight year
field though that looked good from eighty in twenty four
seconds in a two minute drill, and execute it perfectly.
Speaker 4 (02:13):
I mean, it.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Obviously starts with coach Signetti and the culture that he
has just permeated through that entire program in town and
players and it's it's just there's so many things I
think you can point to, and they just all add
up to a team that executes, and if they make
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a mistake, they don't blink, they don't care, They just
move on to the next one. And a perfect example
is the pick six that you know that mendoz are through.
He came right back, They came right back down the field.
So I don't know if they answer your questions, but
it's so exciting and it's just so unbelievable now where
it feels like we're I think, you know, we got
some respect last year, but I think now it's more so.
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People are, you know, the Kirk Kirk streets of the world,
even Nick Saban, I'm real curious to see what he
says this week on game Day about us. But it's
just you can't argue with the success now in being
six to zero and winning that organ.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
You know, Chris to me, christ did Oh is our guest.
He's on the Java House Peel and poor guest line.
When you look at this season and you know, we
don't know where it goes from here, right, but let's
just assume for the sake of argument that Indiana, you
know holds serve. I mean, they just overcame a massive
challenge on the road. I think it is possible, and
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I want you to tell me, as somebody who has
played in the Big Ten, whether this is there's any
accuracy to this. I think it's possible. We may look
back if this becomes a special year and say that
a real not turning point for them. But important part
for them was the win at Iowa. Because you go
into Iowa, that's a tough place to play. They're always
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well coached, and yet that game was they were going
to lose that game, they snatched victory from the jaws
of defeat and the resolve that was shown in that environment,
that to me was kind of the wake up call
that other Indiana teams would not have won. What say you, yeah, I.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
Agree? And was talking to friends about that particular game
in how many times in the last twenty twenty five
years have we watched Indiana play as three to three
and a half quarter game against a really good opponent
where it's either on the road or even at Bloomington,
and it comes down to, Okay, we've got to make
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a field goal and then we miss it, and then
we turn around on defense and we give up a
sixty yard touchdown to lose the game. That where that
scenario is exactly slipped and it's us losing the game
where coach Signetti has created this resolve where again we're
I think when you play that well and you are
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so locked in the those mistakes just kind of fall
your way. Just like last year, everything that we needed
to go right went our way. It seemed this year
the Iowa game, in the last you know, even two
years ago when it was coach Allen, before that, when
it was coach Wilson, it just those types of games
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we would play well for three three and a half
quarters and then figure out a way to lose a game.
That one. We're like, oh my gosh, we just booked
Iowa straight in the eye one in Iowa City, which
we all know is a very very difficult place to play.
They you know, as many times as they blitzed, as
many times as Mendoza got hit right as he was
throwing the ball and the touchdown paths he got hit
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writers who's throwing it, he put it right where it
needed to be.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
The rest.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
So I think that's a great point where now they
will we will all expect them to go and win
those types of games. And you know, we've got two
home games. Two home games coming up Michigan State, UCLA
and then Maryland's not going to be an easy game.
Penn State, that's going to be crazy. There's a group
of my friends and I were going to Happy Valley
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for that game. So you know, I'm sure you know this.
The athletic director at Penn State played football in Indiana.
We have he's a friend of mine. So it's in
the whole Kurt Signetti ties to Pennsylvania. So there's so
many storylines, and I know you talked about it this week,
and it's just so exciting to see Indiana football to
be the center of the college football universe right now,
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because it really is, is it not?
Speaker 5 (06:30):
No?
Speaker 1 (06:31):
That's they are the They're the biggest story in college
football right right now nationwide. Write no question now. So Chris,
let me ask you this, Kurt Signetti. I mean, obviously,
you know we can go into his confidences, bravada, et cetera.
But when you look at this team and the way
that they've played this year, if you had to pinpoint,
which of the two things would you say is more
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accurate about Indiana. A. They are coached in such a
way that they know exact actually where to be at
all times, kind of like a Brad Stevens Butler basketball team,
where like they just know where the loose ball is going.
Or is it be that this team has more individual
with each player's speed than we've seen in the past,
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and thus as a result, they're able to fly to
places before the opposition, like for example, with Oregon, they
out Oregon Oregon with their speed. Is it in fact
preparation or is it a different level of athleticism that
is different with Indiana.
Speaker 4 (07:31):
That's A.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
That's a great question, and I would have to in
my opinion, A. I think that.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
And that's why I.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Think it will sustain itself because I think coach signetty
On down from you know, our offensive coordinator, defensive coordinator
and through the position coaches, they have that team so
well prepared, They scout so well, they appear to have
a game plan that is ready for each individual team
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that they play. And while we have great athletes and
we've got obviously what looks like they you know, takes
the rat for example, I don't think he's a first
round draft choice wide receiver. He's probably maybe a third
four fifth round or he's not. He's not the fastest
guy on the field, but he runs probably you could
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argue runs the best routes in the country because I
know his nickname is waffle House, and it's true. Every
time you watch him runner out, he gets open and
Mendoza knows where to put it, just like Rourke did
last year. Take agent Fisher. He's not gonna be he's
not gonna vow you at the combine. But the guy
and all three of those linebackers from Elijah to I
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can't think of the other two fellows names, but all
three of our linebackers, they're always in the right place
at the right time and they make tackles. Fundamentally, our
secondary is in the right place at the right time.
Defensive line there seem to be you know, first play
the game against Oregon, bam sack. That was just a
four guys rushing they put they kind of set the
tone right. We didn't blitz anybody. Four guys got to
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the quarterback sack. So, in my opinion, which I think
is is will give us a longer upside and this
will sustain itself longer as being more prepared, because you're
gonna have great athletes come and go, like Fernando Mendoza.
He could be the number one pick. He probably will
be a top five pick at worst. That guy's a
bit of a unicorn. He's going to be tough to
replace next year. Although his brother looks pretty darn good too.
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So while you can, if you can sprinkle in some
of those first rounders and have a boatload of just nasty,
tough nosed Aiden Fisher's college football players that love playing football,
always in the right place at the right time, coached up,
very coachable leaders, and I mean they've flipped Indiana football
in the culture what seems to be overnight, and we're lucky.
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I just feel so lucky to be able to continue
to be on this ride and hope it continues and.
Speaker 6 (09:56):
We keep all the vultures of other schools away, you
know the I mean, defensively, you're right, Aiden Fisher has
been a core there, right, But like Isaiah Jones, Kelln Wyatt,
Hardy More, I mean, they.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
Got a lot of guys that are making plays for them, right, Chris.
I'm curious of this and I want our listeners to
to get an idea or a feel for what this means.
And I'm going to lead the witness here with a
presumptive answer. You may not go with the answer I'm
thinking here. But ten years ago, hypothetically, you're getting on
an airplane, you're strapping in. Guys sitting next to you,
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he goes, oh, you're a bigger guy. You go, yeah, yeah,
I played football? Oh really, where'd you play? Played in Indiana?
You know at that time there was a different You're
a Division one college football Player's pretty cool, right, and
then you're like Indiana. I'm not saying it had no
disrespect to our era, right, but is there a different ooph?
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Now do you push your chest out a little more?
And do your other teammates push the chest out a
little more? Of you know what? Damn straight? I played
in Indiana? You know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
It's a funny question and ironic question because I'm in
I'm in Georgia right now, down here for a little
bit of work and uh, playing a little bit of golf,
and and I've come to Georgia once or twice a
year for the last ten years. And I would never
wear EYEU stuff, maybe a hat, especially in the fall
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because we all know it's Georgia, it's out, it's SEC country.
But every where I go down here, I have something
I you on right now, and every person or in
just about every restaurant or if we're out, people will comment,
oh my gosh, Indiana, Indiana, you guys are good. You
guys are good, You guys are for real. So yes, yes, absolutely,
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I am one so proud of what the program is doing.
Don't get me wrong. Ten years ago, I still loved
Indiana football. I've bet we've had season tickets for since
nineteen ninety six. We go, we've been going to the games.
Sometimes we stay out in the tailgates and we don't
go into the game. Now, you know, ten years ago
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we couldn't give away tickets. It was people would stay
in the tailgate. Now, as you know, and we'll see
sold out games. People are bagging for tickets. So yes,
I think you'll see more and more colors Indiana being
worn and being in Georgia, especially where we all know,
you know what the Georgia Bulldogs do, what Alabama does,
what the SEC is like. They know, they know it,
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they love and they know Kurt Signetti and two years
ago this wouldn't We would not have been on anyone's
radar or map. So the only other problem is when
if I'm ten years ago, I'm getting into plane and
somebody's like, wow, you're a big guy. They say, well,
did you play tackle or tight end? And I have to,
unfortunate like put my head down and say, actually played quarterbacks?
Speaker 1 (12:46):
Yeah? Hey, you know, I mean, come on, we're not
thirty anymore. Right, let's be real. That's right. Okay. Lastly,
Chris Kurt Signetti, is he long term in Indiana? I
think so.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
I mean I do. I believe it. And if you
go back, and you know, I've been fortunate. I met
him this year.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
I met his wife.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
They seem like they are in love with Bloomington. Missus
Signettie just seemed over the moon about the city of Bloomington,
the town, how they've embraced her, how they've embraced him.
I you know, I think we could lose a defensive
or off our coordinators prossably this offseason. But man, they
seem like they're so gelled together as a staff that
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it's going to take I think a special opportunity for
a coordinator to leave. But in my heart, of hearts.
I believe coach Signetti is going to remain in Bloomington
for the next as long as he wants to, hopefully
it's ten years, and then he who you know, he's
got a protege that he wants to give the job too.
And we're building the statue and we're adding on twenty
thousand seats and the rest is history. And we've got
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you know, and we're we are one of those football
powers with the new nil you know you and I
know you've talked about this to give Scott Dolson a
ton of credit for finding for Signetty and then giving
him the resources to run a program that can't succeed
at a top ten or top five level. And it's
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looking like we're going to be potentially hosting the playoff game.
Could you imagine Alabama Georgia coming to Bloomington.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
November right now? I think it's slot. The last projection
I saw was Georgia. You let those Bulldog fans know,
give him a map, give them a map to blooming.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
Yeah, it's still funny. So down here in Georgia, I've
got some friends. They love Georgia football, and they're like,
oh man, I don't go to football games if it's
less than fifty degrees. I mean, I just don't know
what that would be like.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
Oh well, I'm not kidding. I know. Get him some gloves, man,
get him some gloves. But a lot to be done
between now and then. Chris will let you get back
to the golf. I appreciate the time. We'll talk to
you again over the course of the season and see
what happens. Of course, this Saturday.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
Love to thank you so much. I appreciate love, thanks
for talking to you football.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
Appreciate it. Chris joining us on the program. We'll take
a quick recess and come back think about different injuries
that are taking place in sports. And I think to myself,
who would know the answer as to the timetable on that,
which is why we go to the Java House, Peel
and poor guest line where we find Ralph Reef. Ralph
Reef dot com is the website for Reef Executive Performance Solutions,
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a man that is synonymous with athletic training and has
been kind enough to lend us his expertise from time
to time on this program. Ralph, how are you hey, I'm.
Speaker 5 (15:32):
Doing very well. Jake and Pop Tarts I would estimate
that across the NCAA Division I athletic departments nutrition stations,
I would say that nine out of ten have pop
Tarts available.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
Really, so is it? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (15:52):
So the protein pop Tarts?
Speaker 5 (15:54):
Is this legit well protein if they're boosting the protein.
I pickle pop tarts if I went to the store
right now on bottom, they probably have about four or
five grams of protein. But in sports nutrition, dietitians really
like them for the pre activity carbohydrate load. Very high
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in carbohydrates.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
Okay, fair enough. Now let me ask you, ral does
that mean necessarily that Like when I'm laying around in
some rainy thirty five degree, spitting cold rain in late
November college football Saturday, and I eat six pop tarts,
That's not necessarily the carbohydrate boost I need in that moment, right.
Speaker 5 (16:36):
No, that would be contraindicator. Well you'd be better off
getting a kin of spam.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
And well we know that that's also versatile, right, very
much different ways in which I can enjoy it. Okay,
I want to begin with this, Ralph, you know the
situation with and again I want to make very clear,
I'll say it for on his behalf. Here some of
the injuries we're talking about. Ralph is not the trainer
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specifically dealing with said player or injury, but more of
an overview. And when I look at Shabaria's Mooney Ward
is his nickname with the Colts, and the fact that
he had this freak incident that took place where he
got a concussion in the pregame against Arizona Ralph, but
he's coming off of another recent concussion. Then I became curious,
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when you have a concussion, is there a window of
time in which you might be more susceptible to one
than you otherwise? Would be.
Speaker 5 (17:36):
Great question, and a standard in sports medicine amongst the
providers is that there's no better prediction for injury than
previous injury. And so someone who's had a sprained ankle
is more susceptible to another sprained ankle. Same thing with
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concussion and mild traumatic brain injury as it's referred to
more commonly today. And but those concussions, the accumulation effect
is very, very concerning with in today's medical environment. So yes,
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there's there is an accumulative effect that has to be
dealt with in the discussions with everybody involved, all the stakeholders.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
Okay, And then with that, you know, I guess the
susceptibility is one thing. I guess that the way to
parlay that, Ralph, my question would be this, and that is,
and maybe it's a different person to person. Do are
concussions the kind of injury that can compound? In other words,
if you have had one in the past, is it
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possible that player a with a might let's say, what
would be considered And I'm not saying any brain injury
is minor, okay, but a mild concussion. Could that be
a more severe concern for someone even if it's been
a long time since they've had one before, than somebody
that by all account it is their first experience with it.
Speaker 5 (19:18):
Well, you hit a key point, Jake. And where this
becomes somewhat complex is the amount of time between concussions.
And so with this player, he had a concussion that
was on the injury report, and I believe missed game
number two week two after concussion reported in game one.
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And so what's that been six weeks ago?
Speaker 1 (19:48):
Yeah, five weeks ago, I think five.
Speaker 5 (19:49):
And so so you know, we're looking at a same season,
same half of the season. There's the standards that we
go by in the medical field for concussions is really
set by a global concussion consensus panel. This was the
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last one was done in twenty twenty three. It's referred
to the Amsterdam Consensus and had about fifty people who
are involved in that program. It takes three to five
years to pull all the information together. That's why they're
not annual consensus reports. And in that consensus report on
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the management of concussions is where the NFL protocol came from.
So this five step NFL protocol came out of the
Amsterdam Consensus Convention in twenty twenty three. In that consensus statement,
there was no mention of recurrent or a timeframe of
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aggregate kind of symptoms or are you more susceptible one month,
two months, twelve months post initial concussion. So that has
not been addressed because this is an extremely difficult injury
to diagnose and predict, and so what is the standard?
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And I'm sure what they are doing within the Colts
organization is that they are very much front and center.
A priority is the fact that hey, five weeks ago,
this gentleman had a concussion diagnosed with it. I have
no idea of what his symptoms were, right, but he
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went through the protocol fairly quickly to return in a
very short period of time. But that in itself is
not a predictor of this time. And that goes to
your question.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
So and when you have.
Speaker 5 (22:00):
These close together, this is where I refer to them
as the stakeholders. The athlete has a voice in this,
the independent neuropsychologist, everybody in between has a sort of
comment to be made relative to this. This is it's
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hard to measure, and because it's not like a fracture
of a finger where you look at the X ray
and in three weeks we c ray again and the
fracture is healing, and we know that we don't know
how to do that with brain injury.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
Ralph Reef is my guest. He is on the Java
House Peel Import guest line. We're talking about some of
the injuries, including right now concussions within the NFL in general. Ralph,
if there was if you were to pick and maybe
concussions is the answer here. Okay, if you were to
take say one hundred athletes, all of which have been
diagnosed with the same injury of one another, which injury
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is the one that would be the most complex and
could have the greatest variety amongst the one hundred different
athletes in terms of recovery, time, treatment process, et cetera.
Is there a specific injury that is the hardest to
blanket statement?
Speaker 5 (23:21):
Well, Jake, that's a great question, and there are a
couple that fall into that category. And these injuries fall
into the category because they are difficult to diagnose, meaning
imagery doesn't show you exactly what's going on. You have
to rely upon the injured person's feedback on how something
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feels or how they test on a particular test. And so, yes,
concussion is very high in the really tough to diagnose
and to give a timetable too. High ankle sprains is
another one fools us all the time. Is it a
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entry to the inside of the ankle the deltoid ligament?
Is it an injury to the outside, is it a
is it just a bad lateral ankle sprain. High ankle
sprains are tough to diagnose because it takes a little
while for it to reveal itself. So the initial pain,
the initial swelling might be truly right around the ankle bones,
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but then as as maybe three four, five, six days
go past. Now the pain is higher into the lower leg,
and so those are really hard. Another one that's not
mainstream by any reasons, but it's it's thoracic outlet syndrome.
And this is where somebody might complain of neck pain.
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My shoulder hurts all the time, the back of my shoulder.
Sometimes my elbow feels like it's numb.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
And this happened.
Speaker 5 (25:00):
And sport a lot, particularly contact hockey, rugby football, where
you have the point of contact on the shoulder and
the side of the neck, and sometimes we get fooled
by this. Thoracic outlet syndrome. Happens in tennis, happens in swimming,
and unless you are an experienced practitioner, these things are
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missed all the time.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
Is there an injury Ralph that is the that has
the most uniform treatment? In other words, when you see it,
you go, yep, I'm pretty certain the timeframe is this.
I'm pretty sure we need to do this because this
one seems that I've seen it one hundred times and
it seems to have the most consistency from one patient
to the next.
Speaker 5 (25:45):
Yeah, I'll take a lateral ankle sprain every day. I
mean there's three ligaments on the side of the ankle.
You get an X ray, make sure you don't have
a fracture, and you just the protocol.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
You just go.
Speaker 4 (25:58):
And what I love about.
Speaker 5 (25:59):
Them treat those things twenty four hours a day. You
you can milk the fluid out of the ankle, you
can get their range of motion backs. They're very predictable,
they're very easy to diagnose, and they respond to all
the tricks of the trade. And so I'd take a
lateral ankle sprain all day, every day.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
And as we know from my own medical expertise on
this show, Ralph, I've mentioned before, we all have four ankles, right,
not right, one on each side, on each foot. I
realize there's two. Okay, Anthony richards and Ralphrief is my
guest Java House Peel and poor guest line Anthony Richardson
in a freak accident. What we know is that it's
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listed as an orbital fracture. Now, Ralph, I'm smart enough
to know this, and that is that you have the
orbital bone around your eye. Okay, But when I look
at it and feel free, you know, I can I
hate to say this way, I can look at a
skull and realize how it works. Right, But like in
my case, I have a very large bone on my
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forehead above my eye. I then have obviously the bone
that goes just below it. Does orbital mean any area
of that or is it specific to meaning top and
or bottom?
Speaker 2 (27:16):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (27:17):
Think of it this way, that it's a circle and
the orbital bone is that complete circle.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
Okay, all right, So it can be anywhere on there.
Speaker 5 (27:28):
Yes, it can be anywhere on there. And then within
that there is the floor of the eye socket that
there's a bone there as well. And yeah, I have
a lot of questions about this particular injury, not because
of the player and so forth, but the mechanism of injury,
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you know, being a snap back from some type of
stretching cord. And I don't know if it had a
handle on it, if it didn't have a handle, if
it snapped, or if it slipped out of his hands
or off of his foot, or you know, there's there's
a lot of questions there. And then where did it
hit Did it hit directly to the bone and create
a true fracture, and and uh, there's the the ophthalmic
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blood flow ophthalmic artery that you know when somebody gets
a boxer gets punched in the eye and they come
out and they're just cruely swollen big time. That's uh,
you know, the blood flow around it. Uh. The orbital
artery or the ophthalmic artery is usually sheared off and
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it just creates a lot of bleeding inside and there's
not a lot of space for it to go. And
so that's one of the issues with a with an
ophthalmic injury is there's just not a lot of space
for fluid to to sort of release it. Stuff like
a lateral ankle sprain. Fluid can go down to the toes,
it can go all the way up into the calf,
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but they're in the eye. It's it's sort of stuck
within that cavity, and so a minor injury can become
major symptoms of blurring of.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
Vision due to the fluid. There's just a.
Speaker 5 (29:10):
Lot of different scenarios with this. But for them to
put him on a four week IR doesn't surprise me
just from a standpoint of management of that fracture. Time
to get the swelling down, but it shouldn't affect anything else.
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He should be able to go to meetings, should be
able to drive.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
All of those kinds of life.
Speaker 5 (29:37):
Things just can't can't take a hit, and you need
to stay somewhat upright. You don't want to lay flat
all day long and allow the fluid to sit there.
So movement is actually good for it.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
So based on the precedent of other situations, there would
be no reason to believe that this would impair beyond
the time pero of repair, that it would impact his vision. Correct,
that would.
Speaker 5 (30:06):
Be my belief, absolutely right, there should be no impairment
to vision long term.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
Okay it is, you know, Ralph fitz. All of it's
fascinating because and I would imagine, and you tell me
if I'm wrong here, but even in your vast experience
as a trainer, I mean everything from organizing you know,
the training for the Olympic Games to you know, all
of the different things that you've done in the different
universities you've worked with in NC DOUBLEA and everything else,
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my guess would be, and you tell me if I'm
wrong that even to this day, there are things that
pop up where you say to yourself that actually is
a new wrinkle that I had never seen before.
Speaker 5 (30:46):
Absolutely, we're we're challenged with that all the time, and
that it might be. Let's take the high ankle sprain.
We think it's a high ankle sprain. All of a sudden,
they have bleeding in their lower leg in that front
compartment where you get shin splints, and that becomes an
emergency situation because blood collects in that anterior compartment. And
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I'm sure there's listeners out there who know someone who's
had anterior compartment surgery to relieve that fluid pressure in there.
So and ts, you know, thrast out that syndrome. Ten
years ago, we didn't know what that was. And and
you know, the medical community become become a little smarter
all the time, and we figure things out. And so yeah,
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there's there are new wrinkles constantly, and you're sort of
like pregame warm up, right cold, let's go, nothing wrong
can happen here. And when I was working Butler Athletics football,
we were out at Drake for a football game and
I actually got injured during pregame warm up where an
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athlete ran backwards and ran right into my and jam
my thumb against my hip and I tore a ligament
in my thumb. So crazy things happen and that's an
active space before a football game, and it's fortunate more
things don't happen, and.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
Of course, you know sometimes they can happen when you
least expected. David Bell, the former Warren Central produced star,
yesterday announcing his retirement, saying that he had an injury
that blindsided him that you know, he could not run
further risk of it. So it is an ongoing thing
with all athletes. Ralph appreciate the time as always. I'll
let you get back to your pop tarts, all right.
Speaker 5 (32:35):
Okay, you take care of Jake.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
Thank you very much, appreciate it. Ralphrief joining us again
on the Java House, Peel and Poor Guest. I'm joining
us now and I'm sure thrilled to be doing so.
Based on that introduction on the Peel the Java House,
Peel and por Guest line. He is with the Indianapolis
Star Colts beat Ryder. You hear him a lot in
this radio station. Joel a ericson joining us. Joel, let's
get to the meat and the matter first, and that
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is we played it earlier. Shane Steichen talking about from
a health standpoint, does it look like other than Kenny Moore, really,
anybody might be making the trip back against the Chargers.
But let's begin with that. Kenny Moore, do you expect
him to be available on Sunday?
Speaker 4 (33:15):
You know, he was doing a little bit more than
I was expecting today at practice, so maybe that's a
good sign in terms of him. In terms of him
being out there, we only see the individual period that
they did a little bit of team stuff at the end,
and I felt like he was doing some stuff. So
maybe maybe that's a good sign for Kenny Moore getting back.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
I'd like to know this, who do you think right now?
Like Jalen Jones for example? You know, he's a guy
that we almost forget about. I hate to say that
because he's a good player, but you know it's been
so long, right, do we have a timetable on Jalen Jones?
And then I'll begin with that. I got to follow
up timetable on Jalen Jones? What do you think?
Speaker 2 (33:55):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (33:56):
I asked that and didn't really get much, which is
generally not a good sign, uh in terms of in
terms of getting him back. I keep thinking that he's healthy.
Jaylan Jones is the key for this secondary which totally
hurt so much, but but it just doesn't seem like
he must have really got that hamstring pretty good.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
Okay, so the better question is this healthier or in
more pristine shape shape Jalen Jones hamstring right now or
Joela ericson last night in the fifth inning of the
Brewers Dodgers game.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
Jalen Jones.
Speaker 4 (34:31):
Jalen Jones, I was like his his was the hamstring
and me was like the existential realities of baseball. That's
where I was. I was in. I was in like
the I was. I was way too deep.
Speaker 1 (34:44):
You know. So your Brewer's fandom is what on a
one to ten scale.
Speaker 4 (34:49):
I think most people would say a ten. Yeah, Like
I know, I know the guys that they call up
for three days and I watch That's That's pretty much
what I watched during the summer on TV. If if
you let me, if my family doesn't have anything else
to do, as like six planes go overhead here at
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the Colts facility, that's that's what I'm watching. I probably
watch parts of like one hundred games a year if
we're being honest.
Speaker 1 (35:17):
But by the way, just say, you know, Joel, you
ready for me to introduce you to something that your
life will never again be the same. There's there's an app. Okay,
I've got an app on my phone called plane Finder.
Are you familiar with plane Finder?
Speaker 4 (35:31):
I think so.
Speaker 1 (35:31):
Now it's not as it's not as relevant over there
off of Eagle Creek Airport because those are just little
like crop dust or private planes, those kind of planes.
But you know, maybe I'm the only person and I'm
going to change the lives of at least one person,
the life of at least one person listening right now, Joel,
And there's only four listening, so I've got a twenty
five percent chanceer So the plane Finder app. Let me
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ask you this, Joel Erickson. Have you ever looked up
in the sky and just see like one like a
tracer of a plane, like way up there, and you're
just like, I wonder, like where's that plane going? Has
that ever happened to you?
Speaker 5 (36:06):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (36:07):
Yeah? Yeah. So plane Finder is an app that literally
you look up and you're like, oh gosh, look right there,
and then I play every time, like I see one
of those planes up there and I'm like, I wonder
where that's going. And then I look it up and
I'm like, oh wow, that plane's going from Oakland to
Baltimore and it just happens to be flying over Indianapolis
right now. And then I envision like there's some you know,
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somebody up there climbing over somebody to go to the restroom,
and you know, they're handing out cokes and whatever else,
and it fascinates me. Now, does this make me weird?
Speaker 4 (36:36):
No, because like you're telling me this and another one
of these cop duster just goes over. How many of
these do they send off?
Speaker 1 (36:43):
Well, there's a lot of crops right.
Speaker 4 (36:46):
Uh, it's like the fourth one in like last thirty seconds.
Speaker 1 (36:50):
They know you're on the radio, right.
Speaker 4 (36:52):
The thing about this is if you shouldn't have told me
about this, because my house in Fishers feels like it's
part of one of the I don't know, approach lanes
or whatever is the Indianapolis Airport has.
Speaker 1 (37:06):
The fed X plan take all the time at night
at night like every because I know this because Shannon's
would be right directly in the past. I know where
you live. The beer ferry once told me where you live, right,
and so I have a general idea of the vicinity
and it's the FedEx planes at night. I'm telling you,
it's just one after another after another. Right, yeah, uh.
Speaker 4 (37:25):
Okay, yeah, no, they're going They're going all night.
Speaker 1 (37:28):
Hey, is this match up with the Chargers the best
thing to happen for the Colts to try to reawaken
consistency with their pass rush just because of an odd
susceptibility on the offensive line of Los Angeles.
Speaker 4 (37:40):
It depends, I think, on whether or not Joe Alt
is back. I have not seen a Chargers practice report
today yet, but there was some talk that maybe he
could be back from his high ankle spring. He's very good,
and I think that if Joe Alt is back that
maybe it's not if it's both of those guys out,
if it's all and then they're swing tackle. His name
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is Trey Pipkins, was also out last week. If both
of those guys are out, I think it is. But
if they're back, even if they're compromised, I think that's
that's probably better for them.
Speaker 1 (38:11):
Trey Pipkins sounds like a fictional character and a Beverly
Cleary kid book, doesn't it. A Yes, absolutely little freckly kid,
red hair, but you know what I mean, ye red
addresses like Waldo.
Speaker 4 (38:22):
Yeah, Trey Pipkins and his sister's name is Lindsay Pipkins.
Speaker 1 (38:28):
That's exactly right. Joel A. Erickson is our guest. He
is on the Java House, Peel and poor guest line Joel.
The The quarterback situation is one that I'm curious of
this point. Obviously, if Daniel Jones we now know, I mean,
if Daniel Jones is the guy and so long as
he's healthy, he's going to be the guy. We know that.
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But if something were to happen and Riley Leonard gets in,
do you believe now that Riley Leonard, because they're during
the time that Anthony Richardson is on injured reserve. Does
Riley Leonard once Brett Rippen gets up to speed, would
he go back to being the backup and Leonard goes
back to being the emergency number three? Or is Riley
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Leonard potentially within grasp of being able as people have
wanted to see what he can do.
Speaker 4 (39:18):
I I don't know where the Colts stand on this,
but I kind of think that the right thing to
do in this situation might be to just go with
Riley Leonard as the backup. Brett Rippon is a guy
who's he's obviously he's he's been around the league a lot,
but he hasn't really started a game in a couple
of years now. The last time he started was a
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one off with the Rams. I think the Rams had
to go out and get somebody after after that one
He's he was available for a reason. That's that was
the biggest thing with this Richardson injury was just your
options were not very good. Taylor Heinekey is out there somewhere.
I don't know if Taylor Heidekey is looking for like
a big like season ending injury to jump in somewhere
or whatever. But outside of Heineke, most of the names
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were kind of guys like this who are kind of
been you know, number three's in the NFL, And I
think if you're looking at it as this guy's a
number three in the NFL, I think you just go
with Leonards.
Speaker 1 (40:13):
Yeah. And in addition that Leonard's a guy that you're
gonna have for a while, right as opposed to you
know what I mean, Like he's not a rental, So
you might as well see what you have there and
then see if you grow from it. I mean that
would that would make sense right? Otherwise why is he
on the roster?
Speaker 5 (40:26):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (40:26):
Absolutely, Like they they brought him in developmental like he's
he's a developmental guy that they hope turned it into
a backup. Well, you might as well jump start it
because you don't have a backup who you clearly think
is ahead of him. At least I don't think so
at this point. Now the Colts might see it differently.
They might feel like you need the experience, depending on
the matchup or whatever. I think everyone in you know
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over here is probably just hoping that Daniel Jones doesn't
get hurt. But you know, I think that if it
was me, just thinking about where they're at, I might
just stick with Riley Leonard.
Speaker 1 (40:58):
Speaking of progress, how would you assess leat.
Speaker 4 (41:02):
I he's he's he's not doing he's struggling, He's not
doing enough. I felt. I feel like we saw the
Rams game. He looked great in the Rams game. That's
really been the only game this year where we've I've
felt him as a as a difference making presence that
he has to be off the edge. You know, they
they had some some quarterback hits last week, but I
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feel like most of those were because Jacobe Brissett holds
the ball, because he's unafraid of getting hit, he just
takes it and yeah, they they needed lot too, and
they still need a lot to for this defense to
really have a shot with the corners, the cornerback situation,
the way it is like, he really has to be
a big time player off the edge. It just hasn't
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been consistent enough. I think it's it's it's imperative though,
because DeForest Butner is basically facing a guard in a
center or a guarden a tackle every time he rushes.
So at some point somebody else needs to become a
difference maker lots of it seems like the best one.
He just hasn't really been that so far.
Speaker 1 (42:02):
It is partially because of Joeli Erickson as our guest
from the Indianapolis Star. He's on the Java House Peel
and poor guest line. It is partially because of the
health of players in front of him, and perhaps partially
still a hangover from the mistakes that he has made.
But Joel, what is it going to take to get
Adie Mitchell back on the field regularly?
Speaker 4 (42:26):
Yeah, that's that's interesting. It's interesting to me to see
that they made him, you know, inactive, and I think
if it's some of the stuff, it's hard for us
to see. It's the behind the scenes stuff. It's probably
a lot of practice stuff that we don't get to
see because you know, we go to practice, so we
only go to the first twenty minutes before they do
any of the real stuff. So I think I think
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that's a big part of it. It's going to be
some of that stuff that we don't necessarily get to
see or have like a pandle on, but it is.
It's very interesting that they made him inactive last week
after benching in the previous week.
Speaker 1 (42:59):
Okay, just importantly, are you resigned to the fact that
the Brewers at this point, are you just hoping nonsweep
or are you like, no, listen, they they had a
great year, best record in baseball. I think for the
vast majority of it. They can now turn it on.
They you know they if I'm not mistaken, this year,
the Brewers had six different fifteen game win streaks, right, So, like,
what the hell's what's with four? Right?
Speaker 4 (43:21):
It it? I am somebody who knows, I'm a big
baseball fan. I am somebody who knows all of the
precedents and teams that go down two oh when they
were playing at home are like twenty four of twenty
seven or something like that in Major League history and
in terms of not being able to come back. So
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I am just in the spot where I'm like, well,
they need a miracle. That's that's where we're at. We
need a miraculous thing to get in the World Series.
I would like to see them not swing at every
pitch at the Dodgers' starters rows in Games three, in
Games four, but you know, we'll see where it goes.
Speaker 1 (44:00):
Well, do you remember the song Joel? In conclusion? Do
you remember the song I'm a terrible singer. Okay, all
I need is a miracle? Do you know that song?
All I need is a miracle all I need? Do
you know who sings that song?
Speaker 4 (44:12):
I do not.
Speaker 1 (44:12):
That is I believe Mike and the Mechanics, And if
I'm not mistaken, I could be totally wrong in this,
but I'm looking it up right now. Mike Rutherford of
Mike and the Mechanics, Uh, even though he is British.
I believe at some point, I don't know why I'm
thinking this, at some point I think he lived in Milwaukee.
If not, then we're going to claim that he did,
and therefore that's good news for the Brewers.
Speaker 4 (44:31):
I I I hope so the the only the only
shred of hope I have left is that I have
thought that this team was done like six times this year.
But but this time, this time, the history is on
my side. I don't know if the other times it
was or if it was just me being semistic, but
this time the history is on my side. That that
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it's it's gonna take. It's gonna take a miracle to
get into the World Series.
Speaker 1 (44:54):
You know, if they don't make the World Series, then
what you can do is download the Planefinder app and
sit out in the backyard and mesmerize yourself.
Speaker 2 (45:03):
Laugh. That's not a bad idea.
Speaker 4 (45:05):
That's not a bad idea.
Speaker 1 (45:06):
You laugh. But I'm telling you, I'm gonna get a
text for you one of these days. It just says,
by the way LaGuardia to Albuquerque and for some reason,
right over my house. It's fascinating. I just chanced your life.
Speaker 4 (45:16):
It's not a bad idea, because I was. I was
thinking about it the other day. I was like, you know,
I normally watched the World Series, but I'm really not
gonna want to if it's the Dodgers versus somebody. Maybe
I'll just turn it on and go outside and just
kind of look at plane finder for a while.
Speaker 1 (45:29):
There you go on, I'm telling you, I'm telling you
what like you and you and the character Tyler Pipkin
or whatever his name is. I can just sit around
in your little fictional book, all right, Joel, appreciate the
time as always. Man, We'll let you get back to work. Yeah,
you bet. Thank you having Joel a. Ericson joining us
on the program. We'll come back
He is a guy that played four years of football
for Indiana, throwing over thirty one hundred yards for the Hoosiers,
and I know is hyped up about the great start
they've gotten off to talking about former quarterback Chris Dido.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Yeah, Jake, you hear me.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
There we go. Yeah, all right. So here's the thing, man,
You've got to be completely pumped up about this, and
so I want to begin simply with this, What is it?
What is it about this team when you look at
it that jumps out at you where you say, that's
why they're winning and that's what makes them different. Is
there any one thing you can point towards?
Speaker 3 (00:35):
You know, that's a great question, and I think it's
a question Indiana fans have been asking themselves really the
last year and a half, probably since the for me,
the UCLA game from last.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Year when we went out there and took it to them,
when I think we still didn't know what we had
and we beat them soundly. And then we went through
the season, started ten and zero, obviously, played Ohio State
and struggled, then beat Perdue, played Notre Dame and struggle,
So that last year was still you know, complete euphoria
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for every Indiana fan and Indiana football fan out there.
And then we get to this season and you go
through the first three games expected to win, you win them.
You start the Big Ten season against Illinois, who nobody
thinks we're gonna win outside of you know, the people
in Bloomington or die hard Indiana football fans, and we
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just blow their doors off. We beat iowas you know,
in a very tough, physical game. And then so we've
got a one thousand pound guerrilla staring at us in
Oregon and still I'm still waiting for that ball to drop,
and it's just hasn't and we, you know, and as
we watch, I've watched the Oregon game and they do
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everything right and they're so locked in, from the special
teams to the defense to the offense. I mean for
us to be to run in our kickoff specialist and
absolutely drill a fifty year eight for fifty eight year
field though that looked good from eighty in twenty four
seconds in a two minute drill, and execute it perfectly.
Speaker 4 (02:13):
I mean, it.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Obviously starts with coach Signetti and the culture that he
has just permeated through that entire program in town and
players and it's it's just there's so many things I
think you can point to, and they just all add
up to a team that executes, and if they make
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a mistake, they don't blink, they don't care, They just
move on to the next one. And a perfect example
is the pick six that you know that mendoz are through.
He came right back, They came right back down the field.
So I don't know if they answer your questions, but
it's so exciting and it's just so unbelievable now where
it feels like we're I think, you know, we got
some respect last year, but I think now it's more so.
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People are, you know, the Kirk Kirk streets of the world,
even Nick Saban, I'm real curious to see what he
says this week on game Day about us. But it's
just you can't argue with the success now in being
six to zero and winning that organ.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
You know, Chris to me, christ did Oh is our guest.
He's on the Java House Peel and poor guest line.
When you look at this season and you know, we
don't know where it goes from here, right, but let's
just assume for the sake of argument that Indiana, you
know holds serve. I mean, they just overcame a massive
challenge on the road. I think it is possible, and
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I want you to tell me, as somebody who has
played in the Big Ten, whether this is there's any
accuracy to this. I think it's possible. We may look
back if this becomes a special year and say that
a real not turning point for them. But important part
for them was the win at Iowa. Because you go
into Iowa, that's a tough place to play. They're always
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well coached, and yet that game was they were going
to lose that game, they snatched victory from the jaws
of defeat and the resolve that was shown in that environment,
that to me was kind of the wake up call
that other Indiana teams would not have won. What say you, yeah, I.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
Agree? And was talking to friends about that particular game
in how many times in the last twenty twenty five
years have we watched Indiana play as three to three
and a half quarter game against a really good opponent
where it's either on the road or even at Bloomington,
and it comes down to, Okay, we've got to make
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a field goal and then we miss it, and then
we turn around on defense and we give up a
sixty yard touchdown to lose the game. That where that
scenario is exactly slipped and it's us losing the game
where coach Signetti has created this resolve where again we're
I think when you play that well and you are
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so locked in the those mistakes just kind of fall
your way. Just like last year, everything that we needed
to go right went our way. It seemed this year
the Iowa game, in the last you know, even two
years ago when it was coach Allen, before that, when
it was coach Wilson, it just those types of games
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we would play well for three three and a half
quarters and then figure out a way to lose a game.
That one. We're like, oh my gosh, we just booked
Iowa straight in the eye one in Iowa City, which
we all know is a very very difficult place to play.
They you know, as many times as they blitzed, as
many times as Mendoza got hit right as he was
throwing the ball and the touchdown paths he got hit
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writers who's throwing it, he put it right where it
needed to be.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
The rest.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
So I think that's a great point where now they
will we will all expect them to go and win
those types of games. And you know, we've got two
home games. Two home games coming up Michigan State, UCLA
and then Maryland's not going to be an easy game.
Penn State, that's going to be crazy. There's a group
of my friends and I were going to Happy Valley
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for that game. So you know, I'm sure you know this.
The athletic director at Penn State played football in Indiana.
We have he's a friend of mine. So it's in
the whole Kurt Signetti ties to Pennsylvania. So there's so
many storylines, and I know you talked about it this week,
and it's just so exciting to see Indiana football to
be the center of the college football universe right now,
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because it really is, is it not?
Speaker 5 (06:30):
No?
Speaker 1 (06:31):
That's they are the They're the biggest story in college
football right right now nationwide. Write no question now. So Chris,
let me ask you this, Kurt Signetti. I mean, obviously,
you know we can go into his confidences, bravada, et cetera.
But when you look at this team and the way
that they've played this year, if you had to pinpoint,
which of the two things would you say is more
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accurate about Indiana. A. They are coached in such a
way that they know exact actually where to be at
all times, kind of like a Brad Stevens Butler basketball team,
where like they just know where the loose ball is going.
Or is it be that this team has more individual
with each player's speed than we've seen in the past,
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and thus as a result, they're able to fly to
places before the opposition, like for example, with Oregon, they
out Oregon Oregon with their speed. Is it in fact
preparation or is it a different level of athleticism that
is different with Indiana.
Speaker 4 (07:31):
That's A.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
That's a great question, and I would have to in
my opinion, A. I think that.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
And that's why I.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Think it will sustain itself because I think coach signetty
On down from you know, our offensive coordinator, defensive coordinator
and through the position coaches, they have that team so
well prepared, They scout so well, they appear to have
a game plan that is ready for each individual team
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that they play. And while we have great athletes and
we've got obviously what looks like they you know, takes
the rat for example, I don't think he's a first
round draft choice wide receiver. He's probably maybe a third
four fifth round or he's not. He's not the fastest
guy on the field, but he runs probably you could
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argue runs the best routes in the country because I
know his nickname is waffle House, and it's true. Every
time you watch him runner out, he gets open and
Mendoza knows where to put it, just like Rourke did
last year. Take agent Fisher. He's not gonna be he's
not gonna vow you at the combine. But the guy
and all three of those linebackers from Elijah to I
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can't think of the other two fellows names, but all
three of our linebackers, they're always in the right place
at the right time and they make tackles. Fundamentally, our
secondary is in the right place at the right time.
Defensive line there seem to be you know, first play
the game against Oregon, bam sack. That was just a
four guys rushing they put they kind of set the
tone right. We didn't blitz anybody. Four guys got to
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the quarterback sack. So, in my opinion, which I think
is is will give us a longer upside and this
will sustain itself longer as being more prepared, because you're
gonna have great athletes come and go, like Fernando Mendoza.
He could be the number one pick. He probably will
be a top five pick at worst. That guy's a
bit of a unicorn. He's going to be tough to
replace next year. Although his brother looks pretty darn good too.
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So while you can, if you can sprinkle in some
of those first rounders and have a boatload of just nasty,
tough nosed Aiden Fisher's college football players that love playing football,
always in the right place at the right time, coached up,
very coachable leaders, and I mean they've flipped Indiana football
in the culture what seems to be overnight, and we're lucky.
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I just feel so lucky to be able to continue
to be on this ride and hope it continues and.
Speaker 6 (09:56):
We keep all the vultures of other schools away, you
know the I mean, defensively, you're right, Aiden Fisher has
been a core there, right, But like Isaiah Jones, Kelln Wyatt,
Hardy More, I mean, they.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
Got a lot of guys that are making plays for them, right, Chris.
I'm curious of this and I want our listeners to
to get an idea or a feel for what this means.
And I'm going to lead the witness here with a
presumptive answer. You may not go with the answer I'm
thinking here. But ten years ago, hypothetically, you're getting on
an airplane, you're strapping in. Guys sitting next to you,
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he goes, oh, you're a bigger guy. You go, yeah, yeah,
I played football? Oh really, where'd you play? Played in Indiana?
You know at that time there was a different You're
a Division one college football Player's pretty cool, right, and
then you're like Indiana. I'm not saying it had no
disrespect to our era, right, but is there a different ooph?
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Now do you push your chest out a little more?
And do your other teammates push the chest out a
little more? Of you know what? Damn straight? I played
in Indiana? You know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
It's a funny question and ironic question because I'm in
I'm in Georgia right now, down here for a little
bit of work and uh, playing a little bit of golf,
and and I've come to Georgia once or twice a
year for the last ten years. And I would never
wear EYEU stuff, maybe a hat, especially in the fall
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because we all know it's Georgia, it's out, it's SEC country.
But every where I go down here, I have something
I you on right now, and every person or in
just about every restaurant or if we're out, people will comment,
oh my gosh, Indiana, Indiana, you guys are good. You
guys are good, You guys are for real. So yes, yes, absolutely,
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I am one so proud of what the program is doing.
Don't get me wrong. Ten years ago, I still loved
Indiana football. I've bet we've had season tickets for since
nineteen ninety six. We go, we've been going to the games.
Sometimes we stay out in the tailgates and we don't
go into the game. Now, you know, ten years ago
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we couldn't give away tickets. It was people would stay
in the tailgate. Now, as you know, and we'll see
sold out games. People are bagging for tickets. So yes,
I think you'll see more and more colors Indiana being
worn and being in Georgia, especially where we all know,
you know what the Georgia Bulldogs do, what Alabama does,
what the SEC is like. They know, they know it,
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they love and they know Kurt Signetti and two years
ago this wouldn't We would not have been on anyone's
radar or map. So the only other problem is when
if I'm ten years ago, I'm getting into plane and
somebody's like, wow, you're a big guy. They say, well,
did you play tackle or tight end? And I have to,
unfortunate like put my head down and say, actually played quarterbacks?
Speaker 1 (12:46):
Yeah? Hey, you know, I mean, come on, we're not
thirty anymore. Right, let's be real. That's right. Okay. Lastly,
Chris Kurt Signetti, is he long term in Indiana? I
think so.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
I mean I do. I believe it. And if you
go back, and you know, I've been fortunate. I met
him this year.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
I met his wife.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
They seem like they are in love with Bloomington. Missus
Signettie just seemed over the moon about the city of Bloomington,
the town, how they've embraced her, how they've embraced him.
I you know, I think we could lose a defensive
or off our coordinators prossably this offseason. But man, they
seem like they're so gelled together as a staff that
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it's going to take I think a special opportunity for
a coordinator to leave. But in my heart, of hearts.
I believe coach Signetti is going to remain in Bloomington
for the next as long as he wants to, hopefully
it's ten years, and then he who you know, he's
got a protege that he wants to give the job too.
And we're building the statue and we're adding on twenty
thousand seats and the rest is history. And we've got
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you know, and we're we are one of those football
powers with the new nil you know you and I
know you've talked about this to give Scott Dolson a
ton of credit for finding for Signetty and then giving
him the resources to run a program that can't succeed
at a top ten or top five level. And it's
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looking like we're going to be potentially hosting the playoff game.
Could you imagine Alabama Georgia coming to Bloomington.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
November right now? I think it's slot. The last projection
I saw was Georgia. You let those Bulldog fans know,
give him a map, give them a map to blooming.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
Yeah, it's still funny. So down here in Georgia, I've
got some friends. They love Georgia football, and they're like,
oh man, I don't go to football games if it's
less than fifty degrees. I mean, I just don't know
what that would be like.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
Oh well, I'm not kidding. I know. Get him some gloves, man,
get him some gloves. But a lot to be done
between now and then. Chris will let you get back
to the golf. I appreciate the time. We'll talk to
you again over the course of the season and see
what happens. Of course, this Saturday.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
Love to thank you so much. I appreciate love, thanks
for talking to you football.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
Appreciate it. Chris joining us on the program. We'll take
a quick recess and come back think about different injuries
that are taking place in sports. And I think to myself,
who would know the answer as to the timetable on that,
which is why we go to the Java House, Peel
and poor guest line where we find Ralph Reef. Ralph
Reef dot com is the website for Reef Executive Performance Solutions,
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a man that is synonymous with athletic training and has
been kind enough to lend us his expertise from time
to time on this program. Ralph, how are you hey, I'm.
Speaker 5 (15:32):
Doing very well. Jake and Pop Tarts I would estimate
that across the NCAA Division I athletic departments nutrition stations,
I would say that nine out of ten have pop
Tarts available.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
Really, so is it? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (15:52):
So the protein pop Tarts?
Speaker 5 (15:54):
Is this legit well protein if they're boosting the protein.
I pickle pop tarts if I went to the store
right now on bottom, they probably have about four or
five grams of protein. But in sports nutrition, dietitians really
like them for the pre activity carbohydrate load. Very high
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in carbohydrates.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
Okay, fair enough. Now let me ask you, ral does
that mean necessarily that Like when I'm laying around in
some rainy thirty five degree, spitting cold rain in late
November college football Saturday, and I eat six pop tarts,
That's not necessarily the carbohydrate boost I need in that moment, right.
Speaker 5 (16:36):
No, that would be contraindicator. Well you'd be better off
getting a kin of spam.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
And well we know that that's also versatile, right, very
much different ways in which I can enjoy it. Okay,
I want to begin with this, Ralph, you know the
situation with and again I want to make very clear,
I'll say it for on his behalf. Here some of
the injuries we're talking about. Ralph is not the trainer
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specifically dealing with said player or injury, but more of
an overview. And when I look at Shabaria's Mooney Ward
is his nickname with the Colts, and the fact that
he had this freak incident that took place where he
got a concussion in the pregame against Arizona Ralph, but
he's coming off of another recent concussion. Then I became curious,
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when you have a concussion, is there a window of
time in which you might be more susceptible to one
than you otherwise? Would be.
Speaker 5 (17:36):
Great question, and a standard in sports medicine amongst the
providers is that there's no better prediction for injury than
previous injury. And so someone who's had a sprained ankle
is more susceptible to another sprained ankle. Same thing with
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concussion and mild traumatic brain injury as it's referred to
more commonly today. And but those concussions, the accumulation effect
is very, very concerning with in today's medical environment. So yes,
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there's there is an accumulative effect that has to be
dealt with in the discussions with everybody involved, all the stakeholders.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
Okay, And then with that, you know, I guess the
susceptibility is one thing. I guess that the way to
parlay that, Ralph, my question would be this, and that is,
and maybe it's a different person to person. Do are
concussions the kind of injury that can compound? In other words,
if you have had one in the past, is it
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possible that player a with a might let's say, what
would be considered And I'm not saying any brain injury
is minor, okay, but a mild concussion. Could that be
a more severe concern for someone even if it's been
a long time since they've had one before, than somebody
that by all account it is their first experience with it.
Speaker 5 (19:18):
Well, you hit a key point, Jake. And where this
becomes somewhat complex is the amount of time between concussions.
And so with this player, he had a concussion that
was on the injury report, and I believe missed game
number two week two after concussion reported in game one.
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And so what's that been six weeks ago?
Speaker 1 (19:48):
Yeah, five weeks ago, I think five.
Speaker 5 (19:49):
And so so you know, we're looking at a same season,
same half of the season. There's the standards that we
go by in the medical field for concussions is really
set by a global concussion consensus panel. This was the
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last one was done in twenty twenty three. It's referred
to the Amsterdam Consensus and had about fifty people who
are involved in that program. It takes three to five
years to pull all the information together. That's why they're
not annual consensus reports. And in that consensus report on
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the management of concussions is where the NFL protocol came from.
So this five step NFL protocol came out of the
Amsterdam Consensus Convention in twenty twenty three. In that consensus statement,
there was no mention of recurrent or a timeframe of
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aggregate kind of symptoms or are you more susceptible one month,
two months, twelve months post initial concussion. So that has
not been addressed because this is an extremely difficult injury
to diagnose and predict, and so what is the standard?
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And I'm sure what they are doing within the Colts
organization is that they are very much front and center.
A priority is the fact that hey, five weeks ago,
this gentleman had a concussion diagnosed with it. I have
no idea of what his symptoms were, right, but he
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went through the protocol fairly quickly to return in a
very short period of time. But that in itself is
not a predictor of this time. And that goes to
your question.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
So and when you have.
Speaker 5 (22:00):
These close together, this is where I refer to them
as the stakeholders. The athlete has a voice in this,
the independent neuropsychologist, everybody in between has a sort of
comment to be made relative to this. This is it's
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hard to measure, and because it's not like a fracture
of a finger where you look at the X ray
and in three weeks we c ray again and the
fracture is healing, and we know that we don't know
how to do that with brain injury.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
Ralph Reef is my guest. He is on the Java
House Peel Import guest line. We're talking about some of
the injuries, including right now concussions within the NFL in general. Ralph,
if there was if you were to pick and maybe
concussions is the answer here. Okay, if you were to
take say one hundred athletes, all of which have been
diagnosed with the same injury of one another, which injury
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is the one that would be the most complex and
could have the greatest variety amongst the one hundred different
athletes in terms of recovery, time, treatment process, et cetera.
Is there a specific injury that is the hardest to
blanket statement?
Speaker 5 (23:21):
Well, Jake, that's a great question, and there are a
couple that fall into that category. And these injuries fall
into the category because they are difficult to diagnose, meaning
imagery doesn't show you exactly what's going on. You have
to rely upon the injured person's feedback on how something
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feels or how they test on a particular test. And so, yes,
concussion is very high in the really tough to diagnose
and to give a timetable too. High ankle sprains is
another one fools us all the time. Is it a
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entry to the inside of the ankle the deltoid ligament?
Is it an injury to the outside, is it a
is it just a bad lateral ankle sprain. High ankle
sprains are tough to diagnose because it takes a little
while for it to reveal itself. So the initial pain,
the initial swelling might be truly right around the ankle bones,
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but then as as maybe three four, five, six days
go past. Now the pain is higher into the lower leg,
and so those are really hard. Another one that's not
mainstream by any reasons, but it's it's thoracic outlet syndrome.
And this is where somebody might complain of neck pain.
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My shoulder hurts all the time, the back of my shoulder.
Sometimes my elbow feels like it's numb.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
And this happened.
Speaker 5 (25:00):
And sport a lot, particularly contact hockey, rugby football, where
you have the point of contact on the shoulder and
the side of the neck, and sometimes we get fooled
by this. Thoracic outlet syndrome. Happens in tennis, happens in swimming,
and unless you are an experienced practitioner, these things are
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missed all the time.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
Is there an injury Ralph that is the that has
the most uniform treatment? In other words, when you see it,
you go, yep, I'm pretty certain the timeframe is this.
I'm pretty sure we need to do this because this
one seems that I've seen it one hundred times and
it seems to have the most consistency from one patient
to the next.
Speaker 5 (25:45):
Yeah, I'll take a lateral ankle sprain every day. I
mean there's three ligaments on the side of the ankle.
You get an X ray, make sure you don't have
a fracture, and you just the protocol.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
You just go.
Speaker 4 (25:58):
And what I love about.
Speaker 5 (25:59):
Them treat those things twenty four hours a day. You
you can milk the fluid out of the ankle, you
can get their range of motion backs. They're very predictable,
they're very easy to diagnose, and they respond to all
the tricks of the trade. And so I'd take a
lateral ankle sprain all day, every day.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
And as we know from my own medical expertise on
this show, Ralph, I've mentioned before, we all have four ankles, right,
not right, one on each side, on each foot. I
realize there's two. Okay, Anthony richards and Ralphrief is my
guest Java House Peel and poor guest line Anthony Richardson
in a freak accident. What we know is that it's
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listed as an orbital fracture. Now, Ralph, I'm smart enough
to know this, and that is that you have the
orbital bone around your eye. Okay, But when I look
at it and feel free, you know, I can I
hate to say this way, I can look at a
skull and realize how it works. Right, But like in
my case, I have a very large bone on my
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forehead above my eye. I then have obviously the bone
that goes just below it. Does orbital mean any area
of that or is it specific to meaning top and
or bottom?
Speaker 2 (27:16):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (27:17):
Think of it this way, that it's a circle and
the orbital bone is that complete circle.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
Okay, all right, So it can be anywhere on there.
Speaker 5 (27:28):
Yes, it can be anywhere on there. And then within
that there is the floor of the eye socket that
there's a bone there as well. And yeah, I have
a lot of questions about this particular injury, not because
of the player and so forth, but the mechanism of injury,
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you know, being a snap back from some type of
stretching cord. And I don't know if it had a
handle on it, if it didn't have a handle, if
it snapped, or if it slipped out of his hands
or off of his foot, or you know, there's there's
a lot of questions there. And then where did it
hit Did it hit directly to the bone and create
a true fracture, and and uh, there's the the ophthalmic
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blood flow ophthalmic artery that you know when somebody gets
a boxer gets punched in the eye and they come
out and they're just cruely swollen big time. That's uh,
you know, the blood flow around it. Uh. The orbital
artery or the ophthalmic artery is usually sheared off and
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it just creates a lot of bleeding inside and there's
not a lot of space for it to go. And
so that's one of the issues with a with an
ophthalmic injury is there's just not a lot of space
for fluid to to sort of release it. Stuff like
a lateral ankle sprain. Fluid can go down to the toes,
it can go all the way up into the calf,
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but they're in the eye. It's it's sort of stuck
within that cavity, and so a minor injury can become
major symptoms of blurring of.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
Vision due to the fluid. There's just a.
Speaker 5 (29:10):
Lot of different scenarios with this. But for them to
put him on a four week IR doesn't surprise me
just from a standpoint of management of that fracture. Time
to get the swelling down, but it shouldn't affect anything else.
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He should be able to go to meetings, should be
able to drive.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
All of those kinds of life.
Speaker 5 (29:37):
Things just can't can't take a hit, and you need
to stay somewhat upright. You don't want to lay flat
all day long and allow the fluid to sit there.
So movement is actually good for it.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
So based on the precedent of other situations, there would
be no reason to believe that this would impair beyond
the time pero of repair, that it would impact his vision. Correct,
that would.
Speaker 5 (30:06):
Be my belief, absolutely right, there should be no impairment
to vision long term.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
Okay it is, you know, Ralph fitz. All of it's
fascinating because and I would imagine, and you tell me
if I'm wrong here, but even in your vast experience
as a trainer, I mean everything from organizing you know,
the training for the Olympic Games to you know, all
of the different things that you've done in the different
universities you've worked with in NC DOUBLEA and everything else,
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my guess would be, and you tell me if I'm
wrong that even to this day, there are things that
pop up where you say to yourself that actually is
a new wrinkle that I had never seen before.
Speaker 5 (30:46):
Absolutely, we're we're challenged with that all the time, and
that it might be. Let's take the high ankle sprain.
We think it's a high ankle sprain. All of a sudden,
they have bleeding in their lower leg in that front
compartment where you get shin splints, and that becomes an
emergency situation because blood collects in that anterior compartment. And
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I'm sure there's listeners out there who know someone who's
had anterior compartment surgery to relieve that fluid pressure in there.
So and ts, you know, thrast out that syndrome. Ten
years ago, we didn't know what that was. And and
you know, the medical community become become a little smarter
all the time, and we figure things out. And so yeah,
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there's there are new wrinkles constantly, and you're sort of
like pregame warm up, right cold, let's go, nothing wrong
can happen here. And when I was working Butler Athletics football,
we were out at Drake for a football game and
I actually got injured during pregame warm up where an
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athlete ran backwards and ran right into my and jam
my thumb against my hip and I tore a ligament
in my thumb. So crazy things happen and that's an
active space before a football game, and it's fortunate more
things don't happen, and.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
Of course, you know sometimes they can happen when you
least expected. David Bell, the former Warren Central produced star,
yesterday announcing his retirement, saying that he had an injury
that blindsided him that you know, he could not run
further risk of it. So it is an ongoing thing
with all athletes. Ralph appreciate the time as always. I'll
let you get back to your pop tarts, all right.
Speaker 5 (32:35):
Okay, you take care of Jake.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
Thank you very much, appreciate it. Ralphrief joining us again
on the Java House, Peel and Poor Guest. I'm joining
us now and I'm sure thrilled to be doing so.
Based on that introduction on the Peel the Java House,
Peel and por Guest line. He is with the Indianapolis
Star Colts beat Ryder. You hear him a lot in
this radio station. Joel a ericson joining us. Joel, let's
get to the meat and the matter first, and that
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is we played it earlier. Shane Steichen talking about from
a health standpoint, does it look like other than Kenny Moore, really,
anybody might be making the trip back against the Chargers.
But let's begin with that. Kenny Moore, do you expect
him to be available on Sunday?
Speaker 4 (33:15):
You know, he was doing a little bit more than
I was expecting today at practice, so maybe that's a
good sign in terms of him. In terms of him
being out there, we only see the individual period that
they did a little bit of team stuff at the end,
and I felt like he was doing some stuff. So
maybe maybe that's a good sign for Kenny Moore getting back.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
I'd like to know this, who do you think right now?
Like Jalen Jones for example? You know, he's a guy
that we almost forget about. I hate to say that
because he's a good player, but you know it's been
so long, right, do we have a timetable on Jalen Jones?
And then I'll begin with that. I got to follow
up timetable on Jalen Jones? What do you think?
Speaker 2 (33:55):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (33:56):
I asked that and didn't really get much, which is
generally not a good sign, uh in terms of in
terms of getting him back. I keep thinking that he's healthy.
Jaylan Jones is the key for this secondary which totally
hurt so much, but but it just doesn't seem like
he must have really got that hamstring pretty good.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
Okay, so the better question is this healthier or in
more pristine shape shape Jalen Jones hamstring right now or
Joela ericson last night in the fifth inning of the
Brewers Dodgers game.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
Jalen Jones.
Speaker 4 (34:31):
Jalen Jones, I was like his his was the hamstring
and me was like the existential realities of baseball. That's
where I was. I was in. I was in like
the I was. I was way too deep.
Speaker 1 (34:44):
You know. So your Brewer's fandom is what on a
one to ten scale.
Speaker 4 (34:49):
I think most people would say a ten. Yeah, Like
I know, I know the guys that they call up
for three days and I watch That's That's pretty much
what I watched during the summer on TV. If if
you let me, if my family doesn't have anything else
to do, as like six planes go overhead here at
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the Colts facility, that's that's what I'm watching. I probably
watch parts of like one hundred games a year if
we're being honest.
Speaker 1 (35:17):
But by the way, just say, you know, Joel, you
ready for me to introduce you to something that your
life will never again be the same. There's there's an app. Okay,
I've got an app on my phone called plane Finder.
Are you familiar with plane Finder?
Speaker 4 (35:31):
I think so.
Speaker 1 (35:31):
Now it's not as it's not as relevant over there
off of Eagle Creek Airport because those are just little
like crop dust or private planes, those kind of planes.
But you know, maybe I'm the only person and I'm
going to change the lives of at least one person,
the life of at least one person listening right now, Joel,
And there's only four listening, so I've got a twenty
five percent chanceer So the plane Finder app. Let me
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ask you this, Joel Erickson. Have you ever looked up
in the sky and just see like one like a
tracer of a plane, like way up there, and you're
just like, I wonder, like where's that plane going? Has
that ever happened to you?
Speaker 5 (36:06):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (36:07):
Yeah? Yeah. So plane Finder is an app that literally
you look up and you're like, oh gosh, look right there,
and then I play every time, like I see one
of those planes up there and I'm like, I wonder
where that's going. And then I look it up and
I'm like, oh wow, that plane's going from Oakland to
Baltimore and it just happens to be flying over Indianapolis
right now. And then I envision like there's some you know,
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somebody up there climbing over somebody to go to the restroom,
and you know, they're handing out cokes and whatever else,
and it fascinates me. Now, does this make me weird?
Speaker 4 (36:36):
No, because like you're telling me this and another one
of these cop duster just goes over. How many of
these do they send off?
Speaker 1 (36:43):
Well, there's a lot of crops right.
Speaker 4 (36:46):
Uh, it's like the fourth one in like last thirty seconds.
Speaker 1 (36:50):
They know you're on the radio, right.
Speaker 4 (36:52):
The thing about this is if you shouldn't have told me
about this, because my house in Fishers feels like it's
part of one of the I don't know, approach lanes
or whatever is the Indianapolis Airport has.
Speaker 1 (37:06):
The fed X plan take all the time at night
at night like every because I know this because Shannon's
would be right directly in the past. I know where
you live. The beer ferry once told me where you live, right,
and so I have a general idea of the vicinity
and it's the FedEx planes at night. I'm telling you,
it's just one after another after another. Right, yeah, uh.
Speaker 4 (37:25):
Okay, yeah, no, they're going They're going all night.
Speaker 1 (37:28):
Hey, is this match up with the Chargers the best
thing to happen for the Colts to try to reawaken
consistency with their pass rush just because of an odd
susceptibility on the offensive line of Los Angeles.
Speaker 4 (37:40):
It depends, I think, on whether or not Joe Alt
is back. I have not seen a Chargers practice report
today yet, but there was some talk that maybe he
could be back from his high ankle spring. He's very good,
and I think that if Joe Alt is back that
maybe it's not if it's both of those guys out,
if it's all and then they're swing tackle. His name
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is Trey Pipkins, was also out last week. If both
of those guys are out, I think it is. But
if they're back, even if they're compromised, I think that's
that's probably better for them.
Speaker 1 (38:11):
Trey Pipkins sounds like a fictional character and a Beverly
Cleary kid book, doesn't it. A Yes, absolutely little freckly kid,
red hair, but you know what I mean, ye red
addresses like Waldo.
Speaker 4 (38:22):
Yeah, Trey Pipkins and his sister's name is Lindsay Pipkins.
Speaker 1 (38:28):
That's exactly right. Joel A. Erickson is our guest. He
is on the Java House, Peel and poor guest line Joel.
The The quarterback situation is one that I'm curious of
this point. Obviously, if Daniel Jones we now know, I mean,
if Daniel Jones is the guy and so long as
he's healthy, he's going to be the guy. We know that.
(38:49):
But if something were to happen and Riley Leonard gets in,
do you believe now that Riley Leonard, because they're during
the time that Anthony Richardson is on injured reserve. Does
Riley Leonard once Brett Rippen gets up to speed, would
he go back to being the backup and Leonard goes
back to being the emergency number three? Or is Riley
(39:11):
Leonard potentially within grasp of being able as people have
wanted to see what he can do.
Speaker 4 (39:18):
I I don't know where the Colts stand on this,
but I kind of think that the right thing to
do in this situation might be to just go with
Riley Leonard as the backup. Brett Rippon is a guy
who's he's obviously he's he's been around the league a lot,
but he hasn't really started a game in a couple
of years now. The last time he started was a
(39:39):
one off with the Rams. I think the Rams had
to go out and get somebody after after that one
He's he was available for a reason. That's that was
the biggest thing with this Richardson injury was just your
options were not very good. Taylor Heinekey is out there somewhere.
I don't know if Taylor Heidekey is looking for like
a big like season ending injury to jump in somewhere
or whatever. But outside of Heineke, most of the names
(40:02):
were kind of guys like this who are kind of
been you know, number three's in the NFL, And I
think if you're looking at it as this guy's a
number three in the NFL, I think you just go
with Leonards.
Speaker 1 (40:13):
Yeah. And in addition that Leonard's a guy that you're
gonna have for a while, right as opposed to you
know what I mean, Like he's not a rental, So
you might as well see what you have there and
then see if you grow from it. I mean that
would that would make sense right? Otherwise why is he
on the roster?
Speaker 5 (40:26):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (40:26):
Absolutely, Like they they brought him in developmental like he's
he's a developmental guy that they hope turned it into
a backup. Well, you might as well jump start it
because you don't have a backup who you clearly think
is ahead of him. At least I don't think so
at this point. Now the Colts might see it differently.
They might feel like you need the experience, depending on
the matchup or whatever. I think everyone in you know
(40:48):
over here is probably just hoping that Daniel Jones doesn't
get hurt. But you know, I think that if it
was me, just thinking about where they're at, I might
just stick with Riley Leonard.
Speaker 1 (40:58):
Speaking of progress, how would you assess leat.
Speaker 4 (41:02):
I he's he's he's not doing he's struggling, He's not
doing enough. I felt. I feel like we saw the
Rams game. He looked great in the Rams game. That's
really been the only game this year where we've I've
felt him as a as a difference making presence that
he has to be off the edge. You know, they
they had some some quarterback hits last week, but I
(41:25):
feel like most of those were because Jacobe Brissett holds
the ball, because he's unafraid of getting hit, he just
takes it and yeah, they they needed lot too, and
they still need a lot to for this defense to
really have a shot with the corners, the cornerback situation,
the way it is like, he really has to be
a big time player off the edge. It just hasn't
(41:45):
been consistent enough. I think it's it's it's imperative though,
because DeForest Butner is basically facing a guard in a
center or a guarden a tackle every time he rushes.
So at some point somebody else needs to become a
difference maker lots of it seems like the best one.
He just hasn't really been that so far.
Speaker 1 (42:02):
It is partially because of Joeli Erickson as our guest
from the Indianapolis Star. He's on the Java House Peel
and poor guest line. It is partially because of the
health of players in front of him, and perhaps partially
still a hangover from the mistakes that he has made.
But Joel, what is it going to take to get
Adie Mitchell back on the field regularly?
Speaker 4 (42:26):
Yeah, that's that's interesting. It's interesting to me to see
that they made him, you know, inactive, and I think
if it's some of the stuff, it's hard for us
to see. It's the behind the scenes stuff. It's probably
a lot of practice stuff that we don't get to
see because you know, we go to practice, so we
only go to the first twenty minutes before they do
any of the real stuff. So I think I think
(42:48):
that's a big part of it. It's going to be
some of that stuff that we don't necessarily get to
see or have like a pandle on, but it is.
It's very interesting that they made him inactive last week
after benching in the previous week.
Speaker 1 (42:59):
Okay, just importantly, are you resigned to the fact that
the Brewers at this point, are you just hoping nonsweep
or are you like, no, listen, they they had a
great year, best record in baseball. I think for the
vast majority of it. They can now turn it on.
They you know they if I'm not mistaken, this year,
the Brewers had six different fifteen game win streaks, right, So, like,
what the hell's what's with four? Right?
Speaker 4 (43:21):
It it? I am somebody who knows, I'm a big
baseball fan. I am somebody who knows all of the
precedents and teams that go down two oh when they
were playing at home are like twenty four of twenty
seven or something like that in Major League history and
in terms of not being able to come back. So
(43:43):
I am just in the spot where I'm like, well,
they need a miracle. That's that's where we're at. We
need a miraculous thing to get in the World Series.
I would like to see them not swing at every
pitch at the Dodgers' starters rows in Games three, in
Games four, but you know, we'll see where it goes.
Speaker 1 (44:00):
Well, do you remember the song Joel? In conclusion? Do
you remember the song I'm a terrible singer. Okay, all
I need is a miracle? Do you know that song?
All I need is a miracle all I need? Do
you know who sings that song?
Speaker 4 (44:12):
I do not.
Speaker 1 (44:12):
That is I believe Mike and the Mechanics, And if
I'm not mistaken, I could be totally wrong in this,
but I'm looking it up right now. Mike Rutherford of
Mike and the Mechanics, Uh, even though he is British.
I believe at some point, I don't know why I'm
thinking this, at some point I think he lived in Milwaukee.
If not, then we're going to claim that he did,
and therefore that's good news for the Brewers.
Speaker 4 (44:31):
I I I hope so the the only the only
shred of hope I have left is that I have
thought that this team was done like six times this year.
But but this time, this time, the history is on
my side. I don't know if the other times it
was or if it was just me being semistic, but
this time the history is on my side. That that
(44:51):
it's it's gonna take. It's gonna take a miracle to
get into the World Series.
Speaker 1 (44:54):
You know, if they don't make the World Series, then
what you can do is download the Planefinder app and
sit out in the backyard and mesmerize yourself.
Speaker 2 (45:03):
Laugh. That's not a bad idea.
Speaker 4 (45:05):
That's not a bad idea.
Speaker 1 (45:06):
You laugh. But I'm telling you, I'm gonna get a
text for you one of these days. It just says,
by the way LaGuardia to Albuquerque and for some reason,
right over my house. It's fascinating. I just chanced your life.
Speaker 4 (45:16):
It's not a bad idea, because I was. I was
thinking about it the other day. I was like, you know,
I normally watched the World Series, but I'm really not
gonna want to if it's the Dodgers versus somebody. Maybe
I'll just turn it on and go outside and just
kind of look at plane finder for a while.
Speaker 1 (45:29):
There you go on, I'm telling you, I'm telling you
what like you and you and the character Tyler Pipkin
or whatever his name is. I can just sit around
in your little fictional book, all right, Joel, appreciate the
time as always. Man, We'll let you get back to work. Yeah,
you bet. Thank you having Joel a. Ericson joining us
on the program. We'll come back
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