October 17, 2025 • 43 mins
0:00-14:07- IndyStar reporter Kyle Knnedenreip joins. Knnedenreip discusses the biggest High School Football games across the street, including Pendleton Heights and Shelbyville. Also, Knnedenreip shares the story that inspired him the most.
14:07-23:52- IU Reporter Jeff Rabjohns joins. Rabjohn’s discusses the Curt Cignetti extension, previews tonight’s IU BB exhibition and more.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
A little bit, a little bit much. Kyle Netdrip joins us.
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(00:22):
Java house dot com. Kyle Neddrip joining us. Uh, Kyle,
we will get to Tech and Crystal House coming up
in just a little bit, and we'll get to the
game that you are covering. But I'd like to know
this when you were a kid, Like, how old were
you when you were first familiar with the band Kiss?
Speaker 2 (00:38):
I mean I was pretty young. They were they were
probably you're you're yeah, you're probably a little bit older
than me. So I would like the seventies music. I
was not, you know, totally in on until uh, you know,
until I got a little older and that music became
popular again, I would say. But right, so I was
kind of my first uh, my first memories of you know,
(01:02):
music probably like in the early eighties, So it wasn't
like kiss was front of mind right at that point.
I don't think, I mean as far as I did.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Did there get up with the big like the spiked boots?
I think between that and the spitting blood, even though
that wasn't you know current perhaps when you first saw it,
and you may not have been young enough when you
first saw it, did it scare you at all? Or
is it weird that it scared me when I was
a kid.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
No, I don't remember.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
I don't remember being scared.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
By that, but I do remember when you mentioned the
Wizard of Oz and the flying monkeys. I was definitely
I love that movie. I loved that movie, but that
was a little when they went to the Witch's castle there,
I was definitely a little bit freaked out, and the
flying monkeys were a big part of that.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
Yeah. The how many times would you say you've seen
the Wizard of Oz?
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Oh? My goodness, right, so many?
Speaker 1 (01:56):
Yeah? You have no idea how old you were the
first time you saw it, right, You just you've always
known it, right, I've always known it?
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Yeah, I mean I remember then it used to just
be on like a couple of times a year, would
run it.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
I remember it being on like for whatever reason, the
Wizard of Oz and The Sound of Music. I remember
both of them being on, like on either Thanksgiving night
or Christmas typically Thanksgiving night and then like around Christmas time.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Yes, yeah, like what's a year that sounds right? I
did when I was pretty young. I look forward to
watching it, so I that was one thing I remember.
You know, I've never my wife kills me for I've
never seen Sound of Music, so I don't even know
that one. But uh, I know what it is, but
I just haven't seen it. But uh, but Wizard of
Oz man, yeah, I still watch it when it's on.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
Now A nanny that's basically like missus Brady picks up
like six kids and parades them around mountains in Austria
escaping war torn times and sing songs that I don't
need something. I mean to see it classic movie. But okay,
what game are we heading to to?
Speaker 2 (03:01):
I will be watching Pendleton Heights play Shelbyville and we'll
have a kind of a different type of story from
that game tonight. So looking forward to seeing Penlton Heights
for the first time this year. They're having a great season,
only one loss this year. They're ranked highly in Class
four A, I think number seven this week in four A,
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and the only loss is to newpal which is you
know where we all know having just a fantastic season.
So this kind of a special year that Penalton Heights
has had so far. And yeah, they are seventh and
Shelbyville actually two, is having a really good year. They're
four and four, which you know may not sound like.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
Mancha, no for them, that's saying. I mean they were
winless just a few years ago, right they were.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
Yeah, they were winless. Not only winless, but man, they
were just struggling, you know, numbers wise, struggling to even
score points a couple of those years, you know, going
back to twenty twenty, nineteen twenty twenty, and then you know,
I've kind of made some strides here in the last
couple of year years. So but yeah, it's been a
good season for them. So yeah, I'm a little different.
(04:05):
We'll have a hopefully a story in the morning that'll
be a little bit different.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
So when you say a little bit different, can you
give us an indication as to what angle we're talking here,
because I do know this about Shelbyville, you know, I've
mentioned before I lived in Shelbyville when I was a
little kid. But I spent a lot of time in Shelbyville.
I know of that community and some of the challenges
that it's had, certainly athletically for the Golden Bears. But
but I'm getting the impression here that you're indicating that
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it's going to be above and beyond just a football
x's and o's story.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
Yeah, and actually it's on the other side. It's Pelton Heights.
Is they're kind of letting me have some access tonight
to to kind of go, you know, behind the scenes
a little bit myself and our photographer. So it won't
be anything crazy because you know, you're writing on deadline,
it's late. You know, hopefully it's really good. So that's
the goal, is to write something a little different and
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and good, you know, for for the readers. But but
you know, having a a little bit more access I
think will be fun and kind of give some insight
into what goes on. I'm gonna get out there little
early and senior night and Jed Richmond's been nice enough
to kind of let me go behind the scenes with
them tonight. So something I've done I do occasionally, and
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you know it's always you know, fun for me, you know,
because you know, even though you're covering it, you're somewhat
removed at times from what you're covering, but you know,
having some insight into the inner workings is always fun
and hopefully hopefully beneficial to people who follow high school sports.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
Kyle, when you look Kyle nn Rep is my guest,
he's on the Java House Peel and poor guest line.
He is with the Indianapolis Star, of course talking high
school football here when you look around the state and
you know you've had the pleasure and the privilege to
cover high school athletics for a long time. But in
this particular season, give me a story of a player
(05:55):
that is off the beaten path. And by that I mean, like,
for I do you know each Friday the feel good,
good for the hard story right where and I'm not
so I'm curious. You have written a lot of these,
and I have always admired your ability to bring to
the forefront some of these stories. Give me the story
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of a local athlete that Kyle Nennripp found so inspirational
that you a that it was an honor and a
privilege to illuminate the accomplishments of an athlete that was
off the beaten path.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
I mean when you say it like that, I would say,
you know, and there's there's been Yeah, I mean, I
appreciate you saying that because I mean that's kind of
the whole point of doing this is, you know, to
bring those stories to light. There's a young man out
named Jackson Grundy at the North Montgomery who was on
the tennis team, also you know, three sport athlete. But
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he's a little little guy, and you know, he had
he had some health issues growing up and was always
just kind of a small kid. And you know, they
found out that, you know, his kidneys just were not
functioning properly. He and at the start of twenty twenty five,
he he was on dialysis. I was pretty dire and
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needed a kidney transplant. And you know, I was lucky
enough to talk to him and his mom and some
of the people in North Montgomery and then you know,
one of the teachers actually got involved and she she
was going to, uh, you know, donate a kidney for Jackson,
and it ended up where he found a kidney before.
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But her name is Donnelle Rogers. But she she's an
English teacher there. But even after that, she went ahead
and and and uh went through the process, and which
I thought was you know, talking to her was just
kind of added to the to the story quite a bit,
you know, But that's definitely a kid and he had
successful you know, kidney transplant. Has gone on to uh
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continue his Tennessee. He's in this past fall. He's playing
on playing be on the basketball team, and in playing
golf in the spring, which he loves golf, and hopefully
we'll go on to abash in college. At least I
was just playing when I talked to him. And he's
the top he's one of the top academic kids there's
he's he was on the homecoming court. So all kinds
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of you know, great things going on in his life.
But his situation was really dire at the start of
twenty twenty five and needed a transplant, got it. And
also kind of you know, like I said, this, Donelle Rogers' teacher,
who's you know, I think she said she's fifty years old,
but she ended up donating a kidney, you know, became
a you know, real advocate obviously for him and for
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you know, kidney transplants, and it's just kind of a
kind of a neat thing was able to you never know,
you know, kind of in this people you meet and
things that you know, but it's kind of inspiring or
just not kind of definitely inspiring for me to meet
people like this and be able to kind of tell
their stories. But when you mentioned that angle on a
kid who's inspiring, I mean I would definitely say, you know,
(09:02):
Jackson's right at the top of that list.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
You know.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
I mentioned that story, Kyle, because I was aware of
it from the donor side because of Indiana, you know,
the Indiana Donor Network and Driven to Save Lives, which
we've done a lot of work with here, great people.
I've had the privilege of being able to go and see,
you know, just the overall tour through you know, both
sides of the organ donation, by going through the Indiana
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Donor Network and seeing their facility in the Northwest side
and then getting to know you know, Danny, who is
a kidney recipient that has become a strong advocate through
Brian Clausen in the different sides of organ donation, and
that that story for that reason struck a chord with
me because I think that the the angle of the
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stranger potentially helping stranger with it, and also knowing that
there is no age limit for organ donation or organ
you know, obviously being on the receiving end as well.
I want to commend you because I thought it was
a really important story to get out there, and I
thought your pinned did an excellent job of voicing that
story and the triumph of it too in the Indiana
(10:08):
under Network, who I'm a strong believer in, very much
appreciated in terms of the football side of things for tonight.
One of the games to me intriguing Cathedral and Warren.
I think Cathedral when you look at record, Kyle, and
we've talked about it, you might look at Cathedral's record
and think that it's I'm not going to say a
down year for Cathedral, but not a typical Cathedral year.
But I think that's misleading because their schedule has they
(10:31):
have not been afraid to challenge themselves. We've talked about
that in the past. What do we look for tonight
with Warren?
Speaker 2 (10:38):
Yeah, I definitely agree with you, and yeah, and thanks
for saying that about Jackson in that story by the way, too.
But I would say, you know, Cathedral in Warren. I
think both are probably better than their five and three
records indicate, you know, and I think that'll be a
really interesting game. These teams played last year in a
close game. Warren won that game, but both battling some injuries.
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I don't expect key On Thomas will play to night
for Warren. You know, Cathedral has been battling some injuries
at some key spots as well, But it should be
a great game. And and I think Cathedral definitely will
will be a challenger for newpal in the sectional down
the road at Center Girl. Bloomington South is super interesting
to me too. These teams haven't played against each other
(11:21):
in a long time, but but you know, from a
five A verse six A, South is very good this year,
so we'll kind of see where they're at from a
standpoint of can they challenge in the five A tournament.
That's a good indicator. East Central ron Colly also, I
think is a great game. East Central's highly ranked in
five A.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
They're typically a.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
Four A team, but playing up because a success factor
in ron Colly, of course, you know, highly ranked in
class four A as well, So I think that's an
interesting game. That's been a really good rivalry game, close
games over the years. Cascade as eight. No, they're at
Western Boon. That'll be a good one. HSC plays Brownsburg.
Glass seemed to beat Brownsburg was HC last year this
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same week, so otherwise Brownsburg I think would have what
a twenty one game winning streak if not for that game.
So I think that'll be an interesting game to watch
as well. But yeah, several good games. I think should
be great weather again tonight like we've had all season
on Friday, and knock on wood hopefully that continues.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
And you mentioned New Pal by the way, and I've
talked to people about New Pal and just there you know,
they are such an offensive juggernaut, Kyle, But I think
it New Pal is just the classic example of what
can happen when you get kids to buy into a
program at a young age, get into the wait program
and everything else. And when you're watchingow New Pal play football,
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you're watching kids that have known since they were probably fourth, fifth,
sixth grade exactly what they needed to do to represent
that high school.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
Right.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
I mean, that is a juggernaut.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
It is, Yeah, and it's been fun to watch, you know,
I was kind of when Kyler Ralph first got there.
I still remember first meeting him his first year, and
there's you know, it was just like, you know, there
was something about him that was you know, it's not
necessarily the you know, it's just the work they put in,
like you mentioned, and they were a real advocate of
weight room and getting in there and and not really
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just football but all sports. And he's a big part
of that. But but yeah, to look at where they
were then, and they were really good even his first year,
but to go where they've gone since he's been there,
and this is this you could argue this is their
most well rounded, deepest team that they've had, which is
really saying something considering all the great teams he's had there.
But I guess the you know, the next few weeks
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will bear that out, how they're remembered, if they if
they go on and win it or not. But but
I can't imagine there's been many more dominant seasons really
in the history of high school football than what Newpals
had this year.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
Kyle Nenritt will be out at Pendland Heights. You said, right, yes, sir,
all right, we will look forward to that story with
Pendland Heights and Shelbyville and taking a look at it
from a little bit of a different angle tonight, Kyle,
appreciate the time as always, and we'll talk to you
next Friday. All right, you beat.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
Thanks. Jake now works for ESPN, which is a contractual
marketing partner of the SEC. Those people are of no count,
They no longer matter. They're paid shills. It's like, Okay,
you're getting paid to shill for your conference, so what
you're gonna say is what you're gonna say because you're
paid to say it. That means what you say has
(14:27):
no merit.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
And Kurt Signetti has said as much, has he not?
I mean, didn't Kurt Signetti basically say like, look, we're
at a point now where you've got people that are
speaking on behalf of a conference and it's dividing it all.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
And other people have said it as well, and it's true,
you know, Paul fein Mom no longer matters. Anybody listening
to Paul sein Mom right now is either just an
SEC fans who wants to hear somebody say something good
about their conference, or is an idiot. Okay, I mean
the only people who listening to Paul, Fine, mom, right now, really,
they're just idiots. I'm sorry, no offense. It's a great
(15:00):
You're allowed to be an idiot, but those of us
who aren't idiots are allowed to lucky look at you
and go you list time line.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
I do like the time when that Harvey Upnke called
into his show to say that he poisoned the trees
at Tumor's Corner. That was at least, you know, entertaining, right, Yeah,
but that's that's your market audience, right right.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
That does say something about who you're aiming to. Yeah,
but anyway, gosh, I just called people idiot Onny radio show.
That's gonna get me in trouble living it, Jake, That's okay.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
I can called it every day. You're kidding me. The
more the merrier, right.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
Well, yeah, there we go.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
Did you like Kiss when you were a kid. Did
you like the band Kiss.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
Said about it he's freely passed away?
Speaker 1 (15:40):
Were you afraid of Kiss? I was terrified if I'm
a little older than you, But like when when Kiss
was in their prime, I found and even still to
this day, when I see the big spike boots like
it kind of I'm not saying I don't like their music.
I'm just saying the gimmick side of kiss scared me
to that is that odd?
Speaker 3 (16:01):
No, I remember, you know because yeah, you're a little
older the maybe who were similar ranges. But anyway, you know,
it's like we in the in our gosh, we're sound
like old farts here, but we've heard music on the
radio before we.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
Saw music correct correct.
Speaker 3 (16:17):
And you hear a song, you're like, oh man, that
thing really thumbs and you know you're out there, you know,
playing basketball as a little kid, or you know, on
your bike, riding around with your boys or whatever, you know,
and then all of a sudden he turned on MTV.
And you know, MTV at one point time actually played
music videos. People don't realize that, but god, we stand
all right now, Jake. But anyway, you know, like you
(16:39):
would hear a song for maybe weeks, and all of
a sudden you would see the people singing on MTV
and that was your first visual who one of these people?
You didn't know? You know, maybe if you got you know,
one of the you know, magazines, but it was a
monthly magazine. And but then so it would be weeks
before you see who was singing a song. First time
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seeing Kiss that was that.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
Was sorry, yeah it was it was. Yeah, it was
not unlike the first time that like you saw the
uh the disclaimer on an HBO movie that said brief
nudity or strong sexual content. It was like, I think
something just changed here, right, like like this is this
is not? Yeah, something something's new here, Something's different. And
(17:24):
that was definitely the case. I'm telling you my sister.
I have an older sister. I mentioned it earlier. She
had the Kiss a Live two album and it had
the picture. It was a double album and in it
there was the pyrotechnics and Gene Simmons and the blood
coming out and the boots and I mean it was,
like I mentioned earlier, it was like the Flying Monkeys
and the Wizard of Ozz, Like, what in the world
are we doing here? I'm terrified. But the music was cool.
(17:46):
The music was cool. Hey, Jeff. Obviously, Indiana basketball it
is interesting and I'm not going to get into the
whole thing of like this Indiana now football school versus
basketball school. It's an athletic program that has, you know,
obvious one side of it. On the basketball side, which
has great fans support and enthusiasm, but at the same time,
(18:07):
I think there's a lot of curiosity as to what
we are going to see this year out of them.
The thing that is the most intriguing to you about
Indiana basketball now is they have an exhibition. Is it
tonight or tomorrow? I think it's tonight the exhibition, right, yeah, Okay.
So the thing that you will be looking for in
that or that maybe is of intrigue to you that
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you were looking to either see if it does or
doesn't go a certain way, would be what shooting.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
Shooting. They their roster was primarily about adding shooting, multiple guys,
a multiple physicians who can make threes. You know, we
watched them three games then in Puerto Rico they've been
open practices, so we've had, you know, multiple viewings now
and they're going to take threes and humphrees. So the
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this game, the exhibitions tonight against Baylor at Gambridgefield House,
even even the games through November, I'm gonna be watching
shooting because this is a you know, a roster that
you know, they they weren't able to go get like
a traditional post player. They weren't able to get some
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traditional things. But You've got guys like Read Bailey out there,
who's a center on paper. And there were times in
practice where like when quote the other team, you know,
not his team, but the other team, you know, scrimmage
makes a basket, they throw it into him. He's turning
around and bringing them off the court, and the other
center's going, oh crap, what do I do here? And
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there were times that they had four guys on the
floor who had made a three, either in the game
that was being played we're talking about Puerto Rico, or
in the scrimmage of practice we watched, and Red Bailey
can make three. He just he just didn't at that
particular juncture. But to me, I think shooting is the
most interesting games. It's a modern style. It's just a
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far more just It's just it's just a better brand
of basketball than I used played the last four six,
eight years. It's just a better brand of basketball. So
I don't think they're oldly talented. I think, you know,
Technic of Reason and Warner Wilkerson are probably the two
guys you look at first and say, Okay, who's gonna
go each points? Most night? Those guys are uh taking
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Connorway at the point can be disruptive as a as
a defender on the ball. You know, Reed Bailey can
be a mismatch guy. Uh. Trent Sisley, Uh from from
Heritage Hills down there in the southern part of our state. Uh.
You know he he's really battling for minutes. But I think,
to me, the number one thing you think about when
you look at this roster, when you watch them play,
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when you watch them practice, it's just a shooting. They've
got multiple guys who can actually make threes. And I
asked darn to Reese about it. We were up in
Chicago media Day last week and I just asked him,
I said, what what what? What's like? I said something about,
what's one of the most important things for your team
to do well?
Speaker 1 (20:58):
Now?
Speaker 3 (20:58):
He said, shooting, shooting, and more shooting. And he said,
we love taking the three, we love hunting the three.
We're gonna recruit guys you can make threes. And so yeah,
to me, number one thing I'm looking for here the
first few weeks, how do they shit the ball?
Speaker 1 (21:12):
Okay, lastly, and this is probably the most important Robby Okay,
I'm taking out Michael Jackson's thriller and I'm taking out
Money for Nothing by Dire Straits, because those are the
obvious answers. I know that you are a fan of Prince.
I still have your album for you. But when you
think about early young first years of MTV introduction to
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Jeff rab John's give me the two or three songs
or music videos that jump out in your mind?
Speaker 3 (21:40):
Oh man, yeah, okay, let's see you. Definitely, I'm Money
for Nothing would have been clearly number one, clearly number one.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
Man?
Speaker 3 (21:56):
Who else who would be there?
Speaker 1 (22:01):
Let me give you a couple on this again. I
might be ahead of you in years here. I mean
most people are gonna say video killed the Radio Star
because it was the very first video. We'll take that
one out too. Always something there to remind me by
Naked Eyes. For whatever reason, it seemed like that was
on like twenty four to seven.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
I know what, I know what actually Okay, uh Phil
Collins something in the air tonight where he just hammers
the drums.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
Okay, okay, that's fine.
Speaker 3 (22:27):
You hear it on the radio and you're like, okay,
that's cool that you see him do the whole thing
where like they're playing and he's like singing slash sing conking,
you know at the heir at the beginning of that,
and then walks up those stairs, gets behind the ground boom.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
You ever wrapped around your finger sting was just like
dancing around candles during wrapped around your finger And that
one I remember Cindy Lapper was like a Cindy Lopper
was working a drive in during she Bop. That one
jumps out at me.
Speaker 4 (22:56):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
And then, like I mentioned, naked Eyes always something to
remind me, there was a and then Human League Don't
You Want Me by? The Human League seemingly was on
like every hour or two. But I'm telling you, those
were the glory that was back when I was waiting,
just killing time before I could watch Ted Kitchell and
Randy Whitman hit Baseline Jumpers. You know what I mean.
I mean era long ago. All right, Rabbie, we appreciate
the time as always, jeffrab johnspeaks dot Com on the
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Java House, Peel and poor guest line always a pleasure, Rabbi,
enjoy the weekend, all right, Jake.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
Appreciate you man. And I still still gotta pay you
for that Prince album.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
I still have to get the album. That's the first thing,
right if I'm down, I'm blimington this weekend, I'll bring
it along and we got I was at a music
store in California with Michael Young and we were looking
at old albums and Jeff rab Johnson I just happened
to be talking, and it turns out that he I
got him a vinyl album of Prints in the Revolution
from Purple Rain, the Purple Rain album. I bought it
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on vinyl for him. Speaking of this radio station, the
morning Show and the lineup thereof let me get quickly
for you up to speed on the way it's going
to work for tonight because it is a busy night
of college basketball, and that means a busy night for
all of us Indiana and Marion. That is an exhibition
game that is being played tonight at Assembly Hall that
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can be heard on our sister station ninety three point
one WIBC at six point thirty tonight. Now also at
six point thirty Butler taking on Kevin's beloved Notre Dame
fighting Irish basketball team that can be heard on our
sister station ninety two point seven Fuego. SO ninety two
point seven FM is where you can hear Butler and
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Notre Dame at six thirty, and the Pacers and the
San Antonio Spurs preseason game tonight right here on this
radio station ninety three five one to seventy five to fan,
that is, at seven thirty. Kevin joins us now on
the program. He has been out at West fifty sixth
Street at the Colts Complex, and Kevin I mentioned it earlier.
But for those that may not have heard, please update
us on who Shane Steiken says will be in and
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who will be out for the game in Los Angeles
on Sunday.
Speaker 4 (25:02):
Yes, so Tavaris War Josh Downs, the two guys in
concussion protocol, will both be out, and then Ashton Doolan
chest injury for him, he will be out. Does sound
like Kenny Moore, the second will play. Now he only practiced.
He wasn't practicing today, so he's only practiced two limited
days since he got hurt three weeks ago, so I'd
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be curious how much he will play. But it does
sound like the plan is at least for Kenny Moore
to give it a go.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
And in addition to that, in terms of curious how
much he will play, Kevin I put Adie Mitchell in
that same category because there's going to be necessity to
call his number. But he also has been in the doghouse,
no question about that. Shane Stikeen did elaborate a little
on that, correct. Yeah, so Ad.
Speaker 4 (25:50):
Will dress and will play, which is obviously a change
from well, certainly last week and I think pretty much
the Raiders game where he didn't play meaningful snaps of
the fourth core. But you know, how do they replace downs?
You know, when you look at it last year, Jake,
it was mainly Mitchell and then a little bit of douling.
Well what's happened since then? Mitchell has proven to continue
to be not very reliable and now doing is out,
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So you know, how do you do it? Certainly, Tyler
Warren's presence I think alleviate some of it. You know,
I thought Anthony Gould had a really nice training camp,
and he's more in that slot role. You know, he's
only really been a return man. I don't even know
if he's played an offensive snap of the NFL, so,
you know, body type wise, kind of what he did
a little bit at Oregon State was that slot wide out.
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You know, perhaps they promote Lakwan Treadwell or Coleman owen
off the practice squad. But again, I probably moved some
guys around, you know, maybe even you know, Pittman does
so much dirty work in the middle of the field.
I see, you know, him maybe getting moved around a
little bit there. But I don't think you'll have just Hey,
player A is hurt, so player B slides into that role.
I think it'll be kind of by committee.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
I'd like to know in the morning show, which you
guys do the dirty work. Who's the Pittman of the
morning show?
Speaker 4 (27:04):
Oh boy, that's a great question. Yeah, that's a great question.
I mean, I part of me would like to say Mark,
but I mean Mark. You never know when Marx is
playing animal, I mean Mark aad Mitchell, Mark's playing animal.
Sounds you just I mean, you never even know what
you're gonna get from Mark. You know, one minute, all
of a sudden, he's on a Bears ran.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
The next minute, Mark's kind of like Anthony Richardson because
every time I turn around, he's out for the week. Right.
Speaker 4 (27:29):
Oh boy, that's excellent that that Maybe that might be
your best work of all time.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
That's tremendous.
Speaker 4 (27:35):
I know, yeah, I think, thank you, Yes, thank you
Corman for that. You know, I said that Caleb today.
Caleb Zuber did a great job filling in for Mark
all week long, and you know, I kind of thank
Caleb in the final sigma of the show today and
I said, you know, I I thank you, but I'm
sure we'll see you again because I think Mark has
thirteen more vacation basically now and Thanksgiving.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
You're not You're not kidding, man. You know the it's
interesting Kevin when you look at Kurt Signetti and the
fact that you know, we just talked about it with
Jeff rab John's But I'm just gonna go conventionally or
generically speaking, years from now, we'll look back and say,
Penn State made Kurt Signetti a lot of money because
the timing was perfect to go ahead and lock him in.
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Is Ady Mitchell making Alec Pierce a lot of money?
Speaker 4 (28:25):
Maybe more money in Indy? I think Alec Pierce is
going That's what I mean money.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
That's what I mean. In other words, Alec Pierce is
a guy, and Alec Pierce deserves credit because Alec Pierce
has shown a versatility as a receiver that we had
not previously seen. Maybe Daniel Jones has something to do
with that as well. But if there was going to
be a passing of the torch of hey, we've got
a deep ball guy or an in space guy in
Ady Mitchell, So what do you bringing to the table
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and negotiation, I don't know that the Colts can say that, right.
Speaker 4 (28:55):
Yeah, it's definitely a great point you bring up. I mean,
I'd have to take a closer look at the free
agent list for next year. I want to say, you know,
maybe you let Brayden Smith walk. It does seem like
they're intrigued by Jalen Travis, their fourth round pick out
of Iowa State, who's got into some jumbo packages last week.
You know, at some point you got to pass the torch.
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You know, they obviously passed it with Will Fries to
Mac Gonzalez and Ryan Kelly to Tanner Bordolini. You know,
pretty much each year, let's say you have four marquee
free agents, five marquee free agents, you got to pass it,
especially if you're going to pay a quarterback. So where
are they going to do that again?
Speaker 2 (29:31):
Pierce?
Speaker 4 (29:31):
I think is going to be in high demand from
around the NFL. So yes, I would think that, you know,
he maybe indeed views it as Hey, we need to
up this price. And let's be honest. Shane Styton clearly
has had eighty Mitchell issues and you know, assuming that
everyone is back again next year, you know, GM and
head coach, I think that matters. You know, we're curious
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two weeks ago, what would Shane Siken's punishment be for
Ady Mitchell. Would it just be hey, speaking front of
the team on a Monday, apologize and let's move on. Well, no,
it wasn't that. It was you know, pretty much bend
some week one probably wanted to keep him inactive until
Pier Scott hurt and then obviously he was a healthy
scratch last week. So we'll see if Mitchell can change
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that over the final eleven games.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
When I look Kevin, a lot of people have asked
me this. Kevin Bowen is our guest. He's on the
Java House, Peel and Port guest line Jake twenty five.
By the way, the discount code for twenty five percent
off from Java House Kevin. The several people have asked
me this, and admittedly I mental hurdle on the last name.
That does not make me unique. But the Colts rookie JT.
Defensive lineman or defensive end specifically that just has not
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been able to crack rotation yet. Maybe I'd know the
last name and have more fluidity in saying it if
there was reason to have done so. At this point.
What is holding back there is that because of who
was in front of him, or he just has not
been able to make a step.
Speaker 4 (30:57):
Yeah, JT two Yimalowau. I look at it in a
couple of different ways. What the Colts would tell you is, hey,
he's our fifth defensive end. Let's start there. So when healthy,
that would be Quitty pay Laatu Latsu Sampson epucon Taekwon
lewis supposed to be the four above him. And the
Colts would say, hey, when we play the run heavy teams,
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we want an extra defensive tackle to be dressing on
game days, so that therefore we'll have five of those
and only four defensive ends. That's when you see him
being inactive, and then you know, when you play the
past happy teams, then you would dress him as the
fifth defensive end. Now, I think a little bit certainly
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has to do with you're not getting enough from him,
because I don't think you're getting enough from the guys
above him on the depth chart to warrant necessarily you
dressing them. So you know, to me, this is such
a big storyline for Sunday. The Chargers frankly, are in
one of the more dire situations at offensive tackle I've
ever seen NFL team, No kidding, they are. Starting Last
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week they started their fifth and sixth offensive tackle. I
can't even tell. I don't even I don't even think
the Colts have a sixth offensive tackle on their practice squad.
To be honest with you, this week, maybe it looks
like it's gonna upgrade the fourth and fifth assuming Joe
Aalt doesn't play. So you know, we're talking about a
cold sea line room that has three first round picks,
two second round picks, two third round picks, the fourth
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and fifth. I mean, they're all highly, highly invested, resourced
individuals in that room. You better show up. And I
think that is a massive, massive key for Sunday.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
Yeah, Kevin, Kevin Bowen, our guest. The the defensive line itself.
And it's interesting because I was talking earlier this week
the Chargers, Okay, they are right now, they are really struggling.
Obviously a protecting justin Herbert. I mean, I come, I
totally get it, and and the Colts on the other
side have done a remarkable job of protecting Daniel Jones.
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More on that in a second. But in terms of
the pass rush for Indianapolis, where would you grade it
at this point?
Speaker 3 (33:08):
Uh?
Speaker 4 (33:09):
D plus, maybe C minus. You know, I want to
be a generous grad which Lord knows you could have
used a few of those back in the day, particularly
at Kansas. Yeah, I again, Jake, I'll go off like
what you've invested. I mean, you have put so much
into that room. I want to say you're the top five,
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top three highest paid defensive line rooms. So I'm not
even talking where they were drafted, you know, based off
what they've done in their career, second contract, third contract.
For a few of those guys, you are paying them
and have invested into that room for it to be elite,
and so I think that matters. I think you are
grading on a scale when it comes to that. So,
I mean, on paper, this is varsity versus freshman, your
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D line versus their O line, particularly at tackle. You know,
coming on Sunday, the question is, you know, will it
out in that manner? I mean if anybody wats the
end of that Chargers game and look at what Herbert
had to do on the final drive. I mean he
is getting just I mean under siege from Miami's defensive
line and he makes you know, Houdini like plays to
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save the game that'll be up for the Colts. You know,
can you get to him and then obviously get him
down because just getting to him is not enough given
how you know, great of a escaper, he can be.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
Kevin when you look though at and there are areas
where I will give Chris Ballard a lot of credit
because we either harped on him to address something and
then he did and did so now we're seeing you know,
their results in that. And then there are other areas
where he has been proactive in addressing it but it's
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never taken off. And pass rush is one of those.
It's like just repeated each year. It seems as though
there's the next guy that's gonna be the guy. Okay?
Is that does that speak more to the difficult in
the NFL of finding edge rushers or is it more
so just an area that has been a vapor lock
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for Chris Ballard?
Speaker 4 (35:11):
Yeah? I mean I would say if you made me
pick one or the other, I would say the ladder.
I don't want to act like finding edge rushers is
a slam dunk by any means. But you know, if
you go back and trail bash them. Was a third
round pick, and you know what's his name, the kid
from Rutgers, Komoko Turre was a second round pick. And
then you know Ben Bannago was a second round pick.
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And you know, Taekwon Lews has been a nice player,
so I don't know if you group him in there,
but you know, Quity Pay a first rounder, dioa Dango
second rounder. Again, there's just been a lot of drafted investments,
and you know Quitty for example, kind of one of
those ones where all right, Chris explain this to us.
You know, Michigan, he really didn't put up prominent sack numbers.
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They were banking on man that size and that ability
to do this three cone drill and that test. We
think it'll lead to more. And you know, I would
say from a pressure standpoint, it hasn't. You know, now
in year five of his career, now quit, he's done
more than you know, some of those other guys that
I mentioned. Certainly some of those early draft picks there.
So yeah, again, I don't want to act like you
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just draft one and it's a slam dunk lock that
you figured it out, but you know, to draft whatever
five six in the first three rounds and to really,
I mean, none of them have double digit sacks, and
many of them didn't make it to the end of
their rookie contracts. Are certainly even debated about getting a
second contract to them.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
I would say probably the latter Kevin Bowen, our guest
Kevin this particular game, you know we talked about justin
Herbert right is there and look I set off the
top of the show in August. If you would have
looked at it, the Chargers are one of those games
that jump out where you like, that's gonna be a
tough one. Whoever would have guessed that now the Colts
would go in not only as the team with the
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best record in the AFC, but also some of the
that we thought would be hanging around, maybe even fading
a little bit. Some of that's injury, I get it.
But when you look at the Chargers, aside from the
tackle situation. We talked to Matt Mouney Smith about that
yesterday the Voice of the Chargers. What area of susceptibility
beyond that do you think the Cults are going to
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try to exploit and what area of the Colts specifically
talked about will be their challenge?
Speaker 4 (37:25):
Yeah, I think they The Charge has been really poor
stopping the run, especially the last few weeks. Khalil Mack,
I know, has gotten back to practice. He would be
a very welcome addition if you are the Chargers, But
again he's been out about a month, so is one
week of practice enough for a guy of that age.
So again, your run game a strength against their run defense,
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not a strength you know, should be advantaged Colts there,
you know, I would say, then this gets back to
the past Russ shake. An area that is worrisome is
I think their overall depth of wide out. You know,
looks like they're gonna get Quint Johnson back, who's been
a pretty good whiteout for and they still have Keenan
Allen who's making plays at his age, and lat McConkie
has been a really good player in his early NFL career.
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You know, that depth of wide out, I mean those
are three pretty good dudes. And again, your depth at
corner is definitely being tested, So I would say that
is something that falls on the warrisome scale. I don't
get the sense that the Colts are, you know, overly
impressed by what the Chargers have done defensively. They've been
really good in the red zone. But I don't think
this is like Arizona last week, for example, where they're
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super exotic pre snap and it's gonna take a lot. Now.
I think the Colts feel like they should be okay there,
but you know, still, it's been probably more some of
its parts and how the Chargers have played defensively this year.
Speaker 1 (38:42):
Kevin, who did the who did your son pick? Have
you done it yet?
Speaker 3 (38:46):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (38:46):
I haven't posted it yet.
Speaker 1 (38:48):
Okay, tell me this, which charger helmet did you use?
Because I mean, they're they have kind of a variety, right,
and they've they've got some fri Yeah, although they seem
to have kind of settled on, you know, the powder.
But but but which one did you go with?
Speaker 3 (39:01):
Which?
Speaker 4 (39:02):
I don't know if you've seen what the Rock and
Sunday shake but the rock and it's called Charger power.
I believe if I read.
Speaker 1 (39:07):
This, did we lose Kevin? Okay, hold on, we lost
you for a second there, so Charger power please explain.
Speaker 4 (39:18):
Yeah, I believe it's all gold and then like the
powder blue socks and or like Herbert, you know, I
think he's a sleeve guy. I think it'll be like
a powder blue sleeve for him. I did see at
one point this year they're going back to the Navies.
They're going back to Honestly, I think of Billy Vullock
in that jersey more than I think of anybody else.
In that jersey shows you how my childhood was. But
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as far as the helmet, it was the white helmet
with the light. He was very confused. He kept on
calling him the lightning you know, it's cults against the
light this week, and I didn't really know how the
lightning bolt, you know, would he treat it like an animal,
which usually animals tend to have favoritisms. He tends to
be on that side of the aisle, so he's one
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five in a row. He was torn on the pick.
I will very much say that it was not an
easy pick for him. And yeah, hopefully you know now
my wife helps me edit the music on these videos.
Speaker 1 (40:17):
And also can you edit out the last one if
I'm not mistaken had some fecal chat, right, isn't that right?
Speaker 4 (40:22):
Yeah, And I apologize up front. I just think that's
a state that we're in right now. I just again,
they say, and I felt this way about Joe Davis
the other night when cal Raley hit a home run.
Like when cal Rally hit a home run, it was
like Joe Davis was waiting to say big dumper, like
he couldn't. I mean, he couldn't wait to say that.
And then we all we all laughed. That's the phase
(40:43):
that my children in right now with the word poop.
Speaker 1 (40:46):
Okay, well so we're back to that. Okay. So now
here's the thing. I just I feel like there's a
bias when your son is doing the helmet selections because
he knows the colt's helmet now right.
Speaker 4 (40:59):
Well yeah, yeah, but wait till you see this one. Yeah.
I mean, I guess I just kind of tipped my
hand a little bit there, and you know, we went
back to you know, some people for a while there
thought he was right hand dominant, you know, he and
we keep the home team on the right side. So uh,
you know, I think we're about to start to get
into some interesting circumstances. I mean, the more outdoor games,
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you know, a trip to Pittsburgh, a trip to Berlin.
Of course, we won't go to Berlin for the helmet pick.
We'll go to our front sidewalk though, and you know
we'll get outdoors and you know, the elements and the
leaves and you know, cars driving by. We'll see how
he reacts. But five in a row is five in
a row. So it's hard to argue against his success
so far.
Speaker 1 (41:39):
All right, I'm looking, by the way, in conclusion here
at the you said, charger power is what it is, right,
the charger power, It's like it kind of looks like,
you know, to be honest with you, they look very
similar to and I can't papoo this. And let me
tell you why, Kevin. We had Aaron Nesmith on I
think it was last week, and I mentioned to Aaron's
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Nie Myth that his new balanced shoes are my favorite shoes,
signature shoes amongst the Pacer roster. And they are a
bright highlighter yellow with light blue in it. And I
told him, you know, I was gonna buy a pair
of those. Do you think I could pull off that? Look?
They're the same colors as the Charger power look here.
Speaker 4 (42:21):
Oh boy, yeah, I mean yeah, yeah, I'll leave that
up to Shannon. Part of me says no, you know, honestly,
when I saw the color this week, it reminded me
of and I know you're a big fan of you know,
Raskellar beer Garden mustard has met like Heinz mustard.
Speaker 1 (42:41):
You have a lot mustard a little bit.
Speaker 4 (42:43):
Lighter and I think, you know, the Rascaler mustard a
little darker. If those two had a baby. I think
that's what Justin Herbert will be wearing.
Speaker 1 (42:51):
All right, fair but great venue. The weather will be great,
I'm sure out in Los Angeles, Colts Chargers coming up Sunday. Kevin,
appreciate it. I know you guys will be all over
it coming up Monday morning on the Fan Morning Show.
Speaker 4 (43:04):
Indeed, you boys have a great weekend, all
Speaker 1 (43:06):
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Java house dot com. Kyle Neddrip joining us. Uh, Kyle,
we will get to Tech and Crystal House coming up
in just a little bit, and we'll get to the
game that you are covering. But I'd like to know
this when you were a kid, Like, how old were
you when you were first familiar with the band Kiss?
Speaker 2 (00:38):
I mean I was pretty young. They were they were
probably you're you're yeah, you're probably a little bit older
than me. So I would like the seventies music. I
was not, you know, totally in on until uh, you know,
until I got a little older and that music became
popular again, I would say. But right, so I was
kind of my first uh, my first memories of you know,
(01:02):
music probably like in the early eighties, So it wasn't
like kiss was front of mind right at that point.
I don't think, I mean as far as I did.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Did there get up with the big like the spiked boots?
I think between that and the spitting blood, even though
that wasn't you know current perhaps when you first saw it,
and you may not have been young enough when you
first saw it, did it scare you at all? Or
is it weird that it scared me when I was
a kid.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
No, I don't remember.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
I don't remember being scared.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
By that, but I do remember when you mentioned the
Wizard of Oz and the flying monkeys. I was definitely
I love that movie. I loved that movie, but that
was a little when they went to the Witch's castle there,
I was definitely a little bit freaked out, and the
flying monkeys were a big part of that.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
Yeah. The how many times would you say you've seen
the Wizard of Oz?
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Oh? My goodness, right, so many?
Speaker 1 (01:56):
Yeah? You have no idea how old you were the
first time you saw it, right, You just you've always
known it, right, I've always known it?
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Yeah, I mean I remember then it used to just
be on like a couple of times a year, would
run it.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
I remember it being on like for whatever reason, the
Wizard of Oz and The Sound of Music. I remember
both of them being on, like on either Thanksgiving night
or Christmas typically Thanksgiving night and then like around Christmas time.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Yes, yeah, like what's a year that sounds right? I
did when I was pretty young. I look forward to
watching it, so I that was one thing I remember.
You know, I've never my wife kills me for I've
never seen Sound of Music, so I don't even know
that one. But uh, I know what it is, but
I just haven't seen it. But uh, but Wizard of
Oz man, yeah, I still watch it when it's on.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
Now A nanny that's basically like missus Brady picks up
like six kids and parades them around mountains in Austria
escaping war torn times and sing songs that I don't
need something. I mean to see it classic movie. But okay,
what game are we heading to to?
Speaker 2 (03:01):
I will be watching Pendleton Heights play Shelbyville and we'll
have a kind of a different type of story from
that game tonight. So looking forward to seeing Penlton Heights
for the first time this year. They're having a great season,
only one loss this year. They're ranked highly in Class
four A, I think number seven this week in four A,
(03:22):
and the only loss is to newpal which is you
know where we all know having just a fantastic season.
So this kind of a special year that Penalton Heights
has had so far. And yeah, they are seventh and
Shelbyville actually two, is having a really good year. They're
four and four, which you know may not sound like.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
Mancha, no for them, that's saying. I mean they were
winless just a few years ago, right they were.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
Yeah, they were winless. Not only winless, but man, they
were just struggling, you know, numbers wise, struggling to even
score points a couple of those years, you know, going
back to twenty twenty, nineteen twenty twenty, and then you know,
I've kind of made some strides here in the last
couple of year years. So but yeah, it's been a
good season for them. So yeah, I'm a little different.
(04:05):
We'll have a hopefully a story in the morning that'll
be a little bit different.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
So when you say a little bit different, can you
give us an indication as to what angle we're talking here,
because I do know this about Shelbyville, you know, I've
mentioned before I lived in Shelbyville when I was a
little kid. But I spent a lot of time in Shelbyville.
I know of that community and some of the challenges
that it's had, certainly athletically for the Golden Bears. But
but I'm getting the impression here that you're indicating that
(04:30):
it's going to be above and beyond just a football
x's and o's story.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
Yeah, and actually it's on the other side. It's Pelton Heights.
Is they're kind of letting me have some access tonight
to to kind of go, you know, behind the scenes
a little bit myself and our photographer. So it won't
be anything crazy because you know, you're writing on deadline,
it's late. You know, hopefully it's really good. So that's
the goal, is to write something a little different and
(04:55):
and good, you know, for for the readers. But but
you know, having a a little bit more access I
think will be fun and kind of give some insight
into what goes on. I'm gonna get out there little
early and senior night and Jed Richmond's been nice enough
to kind of let me go behind the scenes with
them tonight. So something I've done I do occasionally, and
(05:15):
you know it's always you know, fun for me, you know,
because you know, even though you're covering it, you're somewhat
removed at times from what you're covering, but you know,
having some insight into the inner workings is always fun
and hopefully hopefully beneficial to people who follow high school sports.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
Kyle, when you look Kyle nn Rep is my guest,
he's on the Java House Peel and poor guest line.
He is with the Indianapolis Star, of course talking high
school football here when you look around the state and
you know you've had the pleasure and the privilege to
cover high school athletics for a long time. But in
this particular season, give me a story of a player
(05:55):
that is off the beaten path. And by that I mean, like,
for I do you know each Friday the feel good,
good for the hard story right where and I'm not
so I'm curious. You have written a lot of these,
and I have always admired your ability to bring to
the forefront some of these stories. Give me the story
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of a local athlete that Kyle Nennripp found so inspirational
that you a that it was an honor and a
privilege to illuminate the accomplishments of an athlete that was
off the beaten path.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
I mean when you say it like that, I would say,
you know, and there's there's been Yeah, I mean, I
appreciate you saying that because I mean that's kind of
the whole point of doing this is, you know, to
bring those stories to light. There's a young man out
named Jackson Grundy at the North Montgomery who was on
the tennis team, also you know, three sport athlete. But
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he's a little little guy, and you know, he had
he had some health issues growing up and was always
just kind of a small kid. And you know, they
found out that, you know, his kidneys just were not
functioning properly. He and at the start of twenty twenty five,
he he was on dialysis. I was pretty dire and
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needed a kidney transplant. And you know, I was lucky
enough to talk to him and his mom and some
of the people in North Montgomery and then you know,
one of the teachers actually got involved and she she
was going to, uh, you know, donate a kidney for Jackson,
and it ended up where he found a kidney before.
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But her name is Donnelle Rogers. But she she's an
English teacher there. But even after that, she went ahead
and and and uh went through the process, and which
I thought was you know, talking to her was just
kind of added to the to the story quite a bit,
you know, But that's definitely a kid and he had
successful you know, kidney transplant. Has gone on to uh
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continue his Tennessee. He's in this past fall. He's playing
on playing be on the basketball team, and in playing
golf in the spring, which he loves golf, and hopefully
we'll go on to abash in college. At least I
was just playing when I talked to him. And he's
the top he's one of the top academic kids there's
he's he was on the homecoming court. So all kinds
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of you know, great things going on in his life.
But his situation was really dire at the start of
twenty twenty five and needed a transplant, got it. And
also kind of you know, like I said, this, Donelle Rogers' teacher,
who's you know, I think she said she's fifty years old,
but she ended up donating a kidney, you know, became
a you know, real advocate obviously for him and for
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you know, kidney transplants, and it's just kind of a
kind of a neat thing was able to you never know,
you know, kind of in this people you meet and
things that you know, but it's kind of inspiring or
just not kind of definitely inspiring for me to meet
people like this and be able to kind of tell
their stories. But when you mentioned that angle on a
kid who's inspiring, I mean I would definitely say, you know,
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Jackson's right at the top of that list.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
You know.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
I mentioned that story, Kyle, because I was aware of
it from the donor side because of Indiana, you know,
the Indiana Donor Network and Driven to Save Lives, which
we've done a lot of work with here, great people.
I've had the privilege of being able to go and see,
you know, just the overall tour through you know, both
sides of the organ donation, by going through the Indiana
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Donor Network and seeing their facility in the Northwest side
and then getting to know you know, Danny, who is
a kidney recipient that has become a strong advocate through
Brian Clausen in the different sides of organ donation, and
that that story for that reason struck a chord with
me because I think that the the angle of the
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stranger potentially helping stranger with it, and also knowing that
there is no age limit for organ donation or organ
you know, obviously being on the receiving end as well.
I want to commend you because I thought it was
a really important story to get out there, and I
thought your pinned did an excellent job of voicing that
story and the triumph of it too in the Indiana
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under Network, who I'm a strong believer in, very much
appreciated in terms of the football side of things for tonight.
One of the games to me intriguing Cathedral and Warren.
I think Cathedral when you look at record, Kyle, and
we've talked about it, you might look at Cathedral's record
and think that it's I'm not going to say a
down year for Cathedral, but not a typical Cathedral year.
But I think that's misleading because their schedule has they
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have not been afraid to challenge themselves. We've talked about
that in the past. What do we look for tonight
with Warren?
Speaker 2 (10:38):
Yeah, I definitely agree with you, and yeah, and thanks
for saying that about Jackson in that story by the way, too.
But I would say, you know, Cathedral in Warren. I
think both are probably better than their five and three
records indicate, you know, and I think that'll be a
really interesting game. These teams played last year in a
close game. Warren won that game, but both battling some injuries.
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I don't expect key On Thomas will play to night
for Warren. You know, Cathedral has been battling some injuries
at some key spots as well, But it should be
a great game. And and I think Cathedral definitely will
will be a challenger for newpal in the sectional down
the road at Center Girl. Bloomington South is super interesting
to me too. These teams haven't played against each other
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in a long time, but but you know, from a
five A verse six A, South is very good this year,
so we'll kind of see where they're at from a
standpoint of can they challenge in the five A tournament.
That's a good indicator. East Central ron Colly also, I
think is a great game. East Central's highly ranked in
five A.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
They're typically a.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
Four A team, but playing up because a success factor
in ron Colly, of course, you know, highly ranked in
class four A as well, So I think that's an
interesting game. That's been a really good rivalry game, close
games over the years. Cascade as eight. No, they're at
Western Boon. That'll be a good one. HSC plays Brownsburg.
Glass seemed to beat Brownsburg was HC last year this
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same week, so otherwise Brownsburg I think would have what
a twenty one game winning streak if not for that game.
So I think that'll be an interesting game to watch
as well. But yeah, several good games. I think should
be great weather again tonight like we've had all season
on Friday, and knock on wood hopefully that continues.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
And you mentioned New Pal by the way, and I've
talked to people about New Pal and just there you know,
they are such an offensive juggernaut, Kyle, But I think
it New Pal is just the classic example of what
can happen when you get kids to buy into a
program at a young age, get into the wait program
and everything else. And when you're watchingow New Pal play football,
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you're watching kids that have known since they were probably fourth, fifth,
sixth grade exactly what they needed to do to represent
that high school.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
Right.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
I mean, that is a juggernaut.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
It is, Yeah, and it's been fun to watch, you know,
I was kind of when Kyler Ralph first got there.
I still remember first meeting him his first year, and
there's you know, it was just like, you know, there
was something about him that was you know, it's not
necessarily the you know, it's just the work they put in,
like you mentioned, and they were a real advocate of
weight room and getting in there and and not really
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just football but all sports. And he's a big part
of that. But but yeah, to look at where they
were then, and they were really good even his first year,
but to go where they've gone since he's been there,
and this is this you could argue this is their
most well rounded, deepest team that they've had, which is
really saying something considering all the great teams he's had there.
But I guess the you know, the next few weeks
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will bear that out, how they're remembered, if they if
they go on and win it or not. But but
I can't imagine there's been many more dominant seasons really
in the history of high school football than what Newpals
had this year.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
Kyle Nenritt will be out at Pendland Heights. You said, right, yes, sir,
all right, we will look forward to that story with
Pendland Heights and Shelbyville and taking a look at it
from a little bit of a different angle tonight, Kyle,
appreciate the time as always, and we'll talk to you
next Friday. All right, you beat.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
Thanks. Jake now works for ESPN, which is a contractual
marketing partner of the SEC. Those people are of no count,
They no longer matter. They're paid shills. It's like, Okay,
you're getting paid to shill for your conference, so what
you're gonna say is what you're gonna say because you're
paid to say it. That means what you say has
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no merit.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
And Kurt Signetti has said as much, has he not?
I mean, didn't Kurt Signetti basically say like, look, we're
at a point now where you've got people that are
speaking on behalf of a conference and it's dividing it all.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
And other people have said it as well, and it's true,
you know, Paul fein Mom no longer matters. Anybody listening
to Paul sein Mom right now is either just an
SEC fans who wants to hear somebody say something good
about their conference, or is an idiot. Okay, I mean
the only people who listening to Paul, Fine, mom, right now, really,
they're just idiots. I'm sorry, no offense. It's a great
(15:00):
You're allowed to be an idiot, but those of us
who aren't idiots are allowed to lucky look at you
and go you list time line.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
I do like the time when that Harvey Upnke called
into his show to say that he poisoned the trees
at Tumor's Corner. That was at least, you know, entertaining, right, Yeah,
but that's that's your market audience, right right.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
That does say something about who you're aiming to. Yeah,
but anyway, gosh, I just called people idiot Onny radio show.
That's gonna get me in trouble living it, Jake, That's okay.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
I can called it every day. You're kidding me. The
more the merrier, right.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
Well, yeah, there we go.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
Did you like Kiss when you were a kid. Did
you like the band Kiss.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
Said about it he's freely passed away?
Speaker 1 (15:40):
Were you afraid of Kiss? I was terrified if I'm
a little older than you, But like when when Kiss
was in their prime, I found and even still to
this day, when I see the big spike boots like
it kind of I'm not saying I don't like their music.
I'm just saying the gimmick side of kiss scared me
to that is that odd?
Speaker 3 (16:01):
No, I remember, you know because yeah, you're a little
older the maybe who were similar ranges. But anyway, you know,
it's like we in the in our gosh, we're sound
like old farts here, but we've heard music on the
radio before we.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
Saw music correct correct.
Speaker 3 (16:17):
And you hear a song, you're like, oh man, that
thing really thumbs and you know you're out there, you know,
playing basketball as a little kid, or you know, on
your bike, riding around with your boys or whatever, you know,
and then all of a sudden he turned on MTV.
And you know, MTV at one point time actually played
music videos. People don't realize that, but god, we stand
all right now, Jake. But anyway, you know, like you
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would hear a song for maybe weeks, and all of
a sudden you would see the people singing on MTV
and that was your first visual who one of these people?
You didn't know? You know, maybe if you got you know,
one of the you know, magazines, but it was a
monthly magazine. And but then so it would be weeks
before you see who was singing a song. First time
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seeing Kiss that was that.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
Was sorry, yeah it was it was. Yeah, it was
not unlike the first time that like you saw the
uh the disclaimer on an HBO movie that said brief
nudity or strong sexual content. It was like, I think
something just changed here, right, like like this is this
is not? Yeah, something something's new here, Something's different. And
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that was definitely the case. I'm telling you my sister.
I have an older sister. I mentioned it earlier. She
had the Kiss a Live two album and it had
the picture. It was a double album and in it
there was the pyrotechnics and Gene Simmons and the blood
coming out and the boots and I mean it was,
like I mentioned earlier, it was like the Flying Monkeys
and the Wizard of Ozz, Like, what in the world
are we doing here? I'm terrified. But the music was cool.
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The music was cool. Hey, Jeff. Obviously, Indiana basketball it
is interesting and I'm not going to get into the
whole thing of like this Indiana now football school versus
basketball school. It's an athletic program that has, you know,
obvious one side of it. On the basketball side, which
has great fans support and enthusiasm, but at the same time,
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I think there's a lot of curiosity as to what
we are going to see this year out of them.
The thing that is the most intriguing to you about
Indiana basketball now is they have an exhibition. Is it
tonight or tomorrow? I think it's tonight the exhibition, right, yeah, Okay.
So the thing that you will be looking for in
that or that maybe is of intrigue to you that
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you were looking to either see if it does or
doesn't go a certain way, would be what shooting.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
Shooting. They their roster was primarily about adding shooting, multiple guys,
a multiple physicians who can make threes. You know, we
watched them three games then in Puerto Rico they've been
open practices, so we've had, you know, multiple viewings now
and they're going to take threes and humphrees. So the
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this game, the exhibitions tonight against Baylor at Gambridgefield House,
even even the games through November, I'm gonna be watching
shooting because this is a you know, a roster that
you know, they they weren't able to go get like
a traditional post player. They weren't able to get some
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traditional things. But You've got guys like Read Bailey out there,
who's a center on paper. And there were times in
practice where like when quote the other team, you know,
not his team, but the other team, you know, scrimmage
makes a basket, they throw it into him. He's turning
around and bringing them off the court, and the other
center's going, oh crap, what do I do here? And
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there were times that they had four guys on the
floor who had made a three, either in the game
that was being played we're talking about Puerto Rico, or
in the scrimmage of practice we watched, and Red Bailey
can make three. He just he just didn't at that
particular juncture. But to me, I think shooting is the
most interesting games. It's a modern style. It's just a
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far more just It's just it's just a better brand
of basketball than I used played the last four six,
eight years. It's just a better brand of basketball. So
I don't think they're oldly talented. I think, you know,
Technic of Reason and Warner Wilkerson are probably the two
guys you look at first and say, Okay, who's gonna
go each points? Most night? Those guys are uh taking
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Connorway at the point can be disruptive as a as
a defender on the ball. You know, Reed Bailey can
be a mismatch guy. Uh. Trent Sisley, Uh from from
Heritage Hills down there in the southern part of our state. Uh.
You know he he's really battling for minutes. But I think,
to me, the number one thing you think about when
you look at this roster, when you watch them play,
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when you watch them practice, it's just a shooting. They've
got multiple guys who can actually make threes. And I
asked darn to Reese about it. We were up in
Chicago media Day last week and I just asked him,
I said, what what what? What's like? I said something about,
what's one of the most important things for your team
to do well?
Speaker 1 (20:58):
Now?
Speaker 3 (20:58):
He said, shooting, shooting, and more shooting. And he said,
we love taking the three, we love hunting the three.
We're gonna recruit guys you can make threes. And so yeah,
to me, number one thing I'm looking for here the
first few weeks, how do they shit the ball?
Speaker 1 (21:12):
Okay, lastly, and this is probably the most important Robby Okay,
I'm taking out Michael Jackson's thriller and I'm taking out
Money for Nothing by Dire Straits, because those are the
obvious answers. I know that you are a fan of Prince.
I still have your album for you. But when you
think about early young first years of MTV introduction to
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Jeff rab John's give me the two or three songs
or music videos that jump out in your mind?
Speaker 3 (21:40):
Oh man, yeah, okay, let's see you. Definitely, I'm Money
for Nothing would have been clearly number one, clearly number one.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
Man?
Speaker 3 (21:56):
Who else who would be there?
Speaker 1 (22:01):
Let me give you a couple on this again. I
might be ahead of you in years here. I mean
most people are gonna say video killed the Radio Star
because it was the very first video. We'll take that
one out too. Always something there to remind me by
Naked Eyes. For whatever reason, it seemed like that was
on like twenty four to seven.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
I know what, I know what actually Okay, uh Phil
Collins something in the air tonight where he just hammers
the drums.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
Okay, okay, that's fine.
Speaker 3 (22:27):
You hear it on the radio and you're like, okay,
that's cool that you see him do the whole thing
where like they're playing and he's like singing slash sing conking,
you know at the heir at the beginning of that,
and then walks up those stairs, gets behind the ground boom.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
You ever wrapped around your finger sting was just like
dancing around candles during wrapped around your finger And that
one I remember Cindy Lapper was like a Cindy Lopper
was working a drive in during she Bop. That one
jumps out at me.
Speaker 4 (22:56):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
And then, like I mentioned, naked Eyes always something to
remind me, there was a and then Human League Don't
You Want Me by? The Human League seemingly was on
like every hour or two. But I'm telling you, those
were the glory that was back when I was waiting,
just killing time before I could watch Ted Kitchell and
Randy Whitman hit Baseline Jumpers. You know what I mean.
I mean era long ago. All right, Rabbie, we appreciate
the time as always, jeffrab johnspeaks dot Com on the
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Java House, Peel and poor guest line always a pleasure, Rabbi,
enjoy the weekend, all right, Jake.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
Appreciate you man. And I still still gotta pay you
for that Prince album.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
I still have to get the album. That's the first thing,
right if I'm down, I'm blimington this weekend, I'll bring
it along and we got I was at a music
store in California with Michael Young and we were looking
at old albums and Jeff rab Johnson I just happened
to be talking, and it turns out that he I
got him a vinyl album of Prints in the Revolution
from Purple Rain, the Purple Rain album. I bought it
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on vinyl for him. Speaking of this radio station, the
morning Show and the lineup thereof let me get quickly
for you up to speed on the way it's going
to work for tonight because it is a busy night
of college basketball, and that means a busy night for
all of us Indiana and Marion. That is an exhibition
game that is being played tonight at Assembly Hall that
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can be heard on our sister station ninety three point
one WIBC at six point thirty tonight. Now also at
six point thirty Butler taking on Kevin's beloved Notre Dame
fighting Irish basketball team that can be heard on our
sister station ninety two point seven Fuego. SO ninety two
point seven FM is where you can hear Butler and
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Notre Dame at six thirty, and the Pacers and the
San Antonio Spurs preseason game tonight right here on this
radio station ninety three five one to seventy five to fan,
that is, at seven thirty. Kevin joins us now on
the program. He has been out at West fifty sixth
Street at the Colts Complex, and Kevin I mentioned it earlier.
But for those that may not have heard, please update
us on who Shane Steiken says will be in and
(24:58):
who will be out for the game in Los Angeles
on Sunday.
Speaker 4 (25:02):
Yes, so Tavaris War Josh Downs, the two guys in
concussion protocol, will both be out, and then Ashton Doolan
chest injury for him, he will be out. Does sound
like Kenny Moore, the second will play. Now he only practiced.
He wasn't practicing today, so he's only practiced two limited
days since he got hurt three weeks ago, so I'd
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be curious how much he will play. But it does
sound like the plan is at least for Kenny Moore
to give it a go.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
And in addition to that, in terms of curious how
much he will play, Kevin I put Adie Mitchell in
that same category because there's going to be necessity to
call his number. But he also has been in the doghouse,
no question about that. Shane Stikeen did elaborate a little
on that, correct. Yeah, so Ad.
Speaker 4 (25:50):
Will dress and will play, which is obviously a change
from well, certainly last week and I think pretty much
the Raiders game where he didn't play meaningful snaps of
the fourth core. But you know, how do they replace downs?
You know, when you look at it last year, Jake,
it was mainly Mitchell and then a little bit of douling.
Well what's happened since then? Mitchell has proven to continue
to be not very reliable and now doing is out,
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So you know, how do you do it? Certainly, Tyler
Warren's presence I think alleviate some of it. You know,
I thought Anthony Gould had a really nice training camp,
and he's more in that slot role. You know, he's
only really been a return man. I don't even know
if he's played an offensive snap of the NFL, so,
you know, body type wise, kind of what he did
a little bit at Oregon State was that slot wide out.
(26:36):
You know, perhaps they promote Lakwan Treadwell or Coleman owen
off the practice squad. But again, I probably moved some
guys around, you know, maybe even you know, Pittman does
so much dirty work in the middle of the field.
I see, you know, him maybe getting moved around a
little bit there. But I don't think you'll have just Hey,
player A is hurt, so player B slides into that role.
I think it'll be kind of by committee.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
I'd like to know in the morning show, which you
guys do the dirty work. Who's the Pittman of the
morning show?
Speaker 4 (27:04):
Oh boy, that's a great question. Yeah, that's a great question.
I mean, I part of me would like to say Mark,
but I mean Mark. You never know when Marx is
playing animal, I mean Mark aad Mitchell, Mark's playing animal.
Sounds you just I mean, you never even know what
you're gonna get from Mark. You know, one minute, all
of a sudden, he's on a Bears ran.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
The next minute, Mark's kind of like Anthony Richardson because
every time I turn around, he's out for the week. Right.
Speaker 4 (27:29):
Oh boy, that's excellent that that Maybe that might be
your best work of all time.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
That's tremendous.
Speaker 4 (27:35):
I know, yeah, I think, thank you, Yes, thank you
Corman for that. You know, I said that Caleb today.
Caleb Zuber did a great job filling in for Mark
all week long, and you know, I kind of thank
Caleb in the final sigma of the show today and
I said, you know, I I thank you, but I'm
sure we'll see you again because I think Mark has
thirteen more vacation basically now and Thanksgiving.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
You're not You're not kidding, man. You know the it's
interesting Kevin when you look at Kurt Signetti and the
fact that you know, we just talked about it with
Jeff rab John's But I'm just gonna go conventionally or
generically speaking, years from now, we'll look back and say,
Penn State made Kurt Signetti a lot of money because
the timing was perfect to go ahead and lock him in.
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Is Ady Mitchell making Alec Pierce a lot of money?
Speaker 4 (28:25):
Maybe more money in Indy? I think Alec Pierce is
going That's what I mean money.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
That's what I mean. In other words, Alec Pierce is
a guy, and Alec Pierce deserves credit because Alec Pierce
has shown a versatility as a receiver that we had
not previously seen. Maybe Daniel Jones has something to do
with that as well. But if there was going to
be a passing of the torch of hey, we've got
a deep ball guy or an in space guy in
Ady Mitchell, So what do you bringing to the table
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and negotiation, I don't know that the Colts can say that, right.
Speaker 4 (28:55):
Yeah, it's definitely a great point you bring up. I mean,
I'd have to take a closer look at the free
agent list for next year. I want to say, you know,
maybe you let Brayden Smith walk. It does seem like
they're intrigued by Jalen Travis, their fourth round pick out
of Iowa State, who's got into some jumbo packages last week.
You know, at some point you got to pass the torch.
(29:16):
You know, they obviously passed it with Will Fries to
Mac Gonzalez and Ryan Kelly to Tanner Bordolini. You know,
pretty much each year, let's say you have four marquee
free agents, five marquee free agents, you got to pass it,
especially if you're going to pay a quarterback. So where
are they going to do that again?
Speaker 2 (29:31):
Pierce?
Speaker 4 (29:31):
I think is going to be in high demand from
around the NFL. So yes, I would think that, you know,
he maybe indeed views it as Hey, we need to
up this price. And let's be honest. Shane Styton clearly
has had eighty Mitchell issues and you know, assuming that
everyone is back again next year, you know, GM and
head coach, I think that matters. You know, we're curious
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two weeks ago, what would Shane Siken's punishment be for
Ady Mitchell. Would it just be hey, speaking front of
the team on a Monday, apologize and let's move on. Well, no,
it wasn't that. It was you know, pretty much bend
some week one probably wanted to keep him inactive until
Pier Scott hurt and then obviously he was a healthy
scratch last week. So we'll see if Mitchell can change
(30:16):
that over the final eleven games.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
When I look Kevin, a lot of people have asked
me this. Kevin Bowen is our guest. He's on the
Java House, Peel and Port guest line Jake twenty five.
By the way, the discount code for twenty five percent
off from Java House Kevin. The several people have asked
me this, and admittedly I mental hurdle on the last name.
That does not make me unique. But the Colts rookie JT.
Defensive lineman or defensive end specifically that just has not
(30:41):
been able to crack rotation yet. Maybe I'd know the
last name and have more fluidity in saying it if
there was reason to have done so. At this point.
What is holding back there is that because of who
was in front of him, or he just has not
been able to make a step.
Speaker 4 (30:57):
Yeah, JT two Yimalowau. I look at it in a
couple of different ways. What the Colts would tell you is, hey,
he's our fifth defensive end. Let's start there. So when healthy,
that would be Quitty pay Laatu Latsu Sampson epucon Taekwon
lewis supposed to be the four above him. And the
Colts would say, hey, when we play the run heavy teams,
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we want an extra defensive tackle to be dressing on
game days, so that therefore we'll have five of those
and only four defensive ends. That's when you see him
being inactive, and then you know, when you play the
past happy teams, then you would dress him as the
fifth defensive end. Now, I think a little bit certainly
(31:39):
has to do with you're not getting enough from him,
because I don't think you're getting enough from the guys
above him on the depth chart to warrant necessarily you
dressing them. So you know, to me, this is such
a big storyline for Sunday. The Chargers frankly, are in
one of the more dire situations at offensive tackle I've
ever seen NFL team, No kidding, they are. Starting Last
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week they started their fifth and sixth offensive tackle. I
can't even tell. I don't even I don't even think
the Colts have a sixth offensive tackle on their practice squad.
To be honest with you, this week, maybe it looks
like it's gonna upgrade the fourth and fifth assuming Joe
Aalt doesn't play. So you know, we're talking about a
cold sea line room that has three first round picks,
two second round picks, two third round picks, the fourth
(32:25):
and fifth. I mean, they're all highly, highly invested, resourced
individuals in that room. You better show up. And I
think that is a massive, massive key for Sunday.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
Yeah, Kevin, Kevin Bowen, our guest. The the defensive line itself.
And it's interesting because I was talking earlier this week
the Chargers, Okay, they are right now, they are really struggling.
Obviously a protecting justin Herbert. I mean, I come, I
totally get it, and and the Colts on the other
side have done a remarkable job of protecting Daniel Jones.
(33:00):
More on that in a second. But in terms of
the pass rush for Indianapolis, where would you grade it
at this point?
Speaker 3 (33:08):
Uh?
Speaker 4 (33:09):
D plus, maybe C minus. You know, I want to
be a generous grad which Lord knows you could have
used a few of those back in the day, particularly
at Kansas. Yeah, I again, Jake, I'll go off like
what you've invested. I mean, you have put so much
into that room. I want to say you're the top five,
(33:29):
top three highest paid defensive line rooms. So I'm not
even talking where they were drafted, you know, based off
what they've done in their career, second contract, third contract.
For a few of those guys, you are paying them
and have invested into that room for it to be elite,
and so I think that matters. I think you are
grading on a scale when it comes to that. So,
I mean, on paper, this is varsity versus freshman, your
(33:52):
D line versus their O line, particularly at tackle. You know,
coming on Sunday, the question is, you know, will it
out in that manner? I mean if anybody wats the
end of that Chargers game and look at what Herbert
had to do on the final drive. I mean he
is getting just I mean under siege from Miami's defensive
line and he makes you know, Houdini like plays to
(34:14):
save the game that'll be up for the Colts. You know,
can you get to him and then obviously get him
down because just getting to him is not enough given
how you know, great of a escaper, he can be.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
Kevin when you look though at and there are areas
where I will give Chris Ballard a lot of credit
because we either harped on him to address something and
then he did and did so now we're seeing you know,
their results in that. And then there are other areas
where he has been proactive in addressing it but it's
(34:48):
never taken off. And pass rush is one of those.
It's like just repeated each year. It seems as though
there's the next guy that's gonna be the guy. Okay?
Is that does that speak more to the difficult in
the NFL of finding edge rushers or is it more
so just an area that has been a vapor lock
(35:08):
for Chris Ballard?
Speaker 4 (35:11):
Yeah? I mean I would say if you made me
pick one or the other, I would say the ladder.
I don't want to act like finding edge rushers is
a slam dunk by any means. But you know, if
you go back and trail bash them. Was a third
round pick, and you know what's his name, the kid
from Rutgers, Komoko Turre was a second round pick. And
then you know Ben Bannago was a second round pick.
(35:33):
And you know, Taekwon Lews has been a nice player,
so I don't know if you group him in there,
but you know, Quity Pay a first rounder, dioa Dango
second rounder. Again, there's just been a lot of drafted investments,
and you know Quitty for example, kind of one of
those ones where all right, Chris explain this to us.
You know, Michigan, he really didn't put up prominent sack numbers.
(35:55):
They were banking on man that size and that ability
to do this three cone drill and that test. We
think it'll lead to more. And you know, I would
say from a pressure standpoint, it hasn't. You know, now
in year five of his career, now quit, he's done
more than you know, some of those other guys that
I mentioned. Certainly some of those early draft picks there.
So yeah, again, I don't want to act like you
(36:17):
just draft one and it's a slam dunk lock that
you figured it out, but you know, to draft whatever
five six in the first three rounds and to really,
I mean, none of them have double digit sacks, and
many of them didn't make it to the end of
their rookie contracts. Are certainly even debated about getting a
second contract to them.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
I would say probably the latter Kevin Bowen, our guest
Kevin this particular game, you know we talked about justin
Herbert right is there and look I set off the
top of the show in August. If you would have
looked at it, the Chargers are one of those games
that jump out where you like, that's gonna be a
tough one. Whoever would have guessed that now the Colts
would go in not only as the team with the
(36:57):
best record in the AFC, but also some of the
that we thought would be hanging around, maybe even fading
a little bit. Some of that's injury, I get it.
But when you look at the Chargers, aside from the
tackle situation. We talked to Matt Mouney Smith about that
yesterday the Voice of the Chargers. What area of susceptibility
beyond that do you think the Cults are going to
(37:19):
try to exploit and what area of the Colts specifically
talked about will be their challenge?
Speaker 4 (37:25):
Yeah, I think they The Charge has been really poor
stopping the run, especially the last few weeks. Khalil Mack,
I know, has gotten back to practice. He would be
a very welcome addition if you are the Chargers, But
again he's been out about a month, so is one
week of practice enough for a guy of that age.
So again, your run game a strength against their run defense,
(37:45):
not a strength you know, should be advantaged Colts there,
you know, I would say, then this gets back to
the past Russ shake. An area that is worrisome is
I think their overall depth of wide out. You know,
looks like they're gonna get Quint Johnson back, who's been
a pretty good whiteout for and they still have Keenan
Allen who's making plays at his age, and lat McConkie
has been a really good player in his early NFL career.
(38:06):
You know, that depth of wide out, I mean those
are three pretty good dudes. And again, your depth at
corner is definitely being tested, So I would say that
is something that falls on the warrisome scale. I don't
get the sense that the Colts are, you know, overly
impressed by what the Chargers have done defensively. They've been
really good in the red zone. But I don't think
this is like Arizona last week, for example, where they're
(38:29):
super exotic pre snap and it's gonna take a lot. Now.
I think the Colts feel like they should be okay there,
but you know, still, it's been probably more some of
its parts and how the Chargers have played defensively this year.
Speaker 1 (38:42):
Kevin, who did the who did your son pick? Have
you done it yet?
Speaker 3 (38:46):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (38:46):
I haven't posted it yet.
Speaker 1 (38:48):
Okay, tell me this, which charger helmet did you use?
Because I mean, they're they have kind of a variety, right,
and they've they've got some fri Yeah, although they seem
to have kind of settled on, you know, the powder.
But but but which one did you go with?
Speaker 3 (39:01):
Which?
Speaker 4 (39:02):
I don't know if you've seen what the Rock and
Sunday shake but the rock and it's called Charger power.
I believe if I read.
Speaker 1 (39:07):
This, did we lose Kevin? Okay, hold on, we lost
you for a second there, so Charger power please explain.
Speaker 4 (39:18):
Yeah, I believe it's all gold and then like the
powder blue socks and or like Herbert, you know, I
think he's a sleeve guy. I think it'll be like
a powder blue sleeve for him. I did see at
one point this year they're going back to the Navies.
They're going back to Honestly, I think of Billy Vullock
in that jersey more than I think of anybody else.
In that jersey shows you how my childhood was. But
(39:42):
as far as the helmet, it was the white helmet
with the light. He was very confused. He kept on
calling him the lightning you know, it's cults against the
light this week, and I didn't really know how the
lightning bolt, you know, would he treat it like an animal,
which usually animals tend to have favoritisms. He tends to
be on that side of the aisle, so he's one
(40:03):
five in a row. He was torn on the pick.
I will very much say that it was not an
easy pick for him. And yeah, hopefully you know now
my wife helps me edit the music on these videos.
Speaker 1 (40:17):
And also can you edit out the last one if
I'm not mistaken had some fecal chat, right, isn't that right?
Speaker 4 (40:22):
Yeah, And I apologize up front. I just think that's
a state that we're in right now. I just again,
they say, and I felt this way about Joe Davis
the other night when cal Raley hit a home run.
Like when cal Rally hit a home run, it was
like Joe Davis was waiting to say big dumper, like
he couldn't. I mean, he couldn't wait to say that.
And then we all we all laughed. That's the phase
(40:43):
that my children in right now with the word poop.
Speaker 1 (40:46):
Okay, well so we're back to that. Okay. So now
here's the thing. I just I feel like there's a
bias when your son is doing the helmet selections because
he knows the colt's helmet now right.
Speaker 4 (40:59):
Well yeah, yeah, but wait till you see this one. Yeah.
I mean, I guess I just kind of tipped my
hand a little bit there, and you know, we went
back to you know, some people for a while there
thought he was right hand dominant, you know, he and
we keep the home team on the right side. So uh,
you know, I think we're about to start to get
into some interesting circumstances. I mean, the more outdoor games,
(41:21):
you know, a trip to Pittsburgh, a trip to Berlin.
Of course, we won't go to Berlin for the helmet pick.
We'll go to our front sidewalk though, and you know
we'll get outdoors and you know, the elements and the
leaves and you know, cars driving by. We'll see how
he reacts. But five in a row is five in
a row. So it's hard to argue against his success
so far.
Speaker 1 (41:39):
All right, I'm looking, by the way, in conclusion here
at the you said, charger power is what it is, right,
the charger power, It's like it kind of looks like,
you know, to be honest with you, they look very
similar to and I can't papoo this. And let me
tell you why, Kevin. We had Aaron Nesmith on I
think it was last week, and I mentioned to Aaron's
(42:00):
Nie Myth that his new balanced shoes are my favorite shoes,
signature shoes amongst the Pacer roster. And they are a
bright highlighter yellow with light blue in it. And I
told him, you know, I was gonna buy a pair
of those. Do you think I could pull off that? Look?
They're the same colors as the Charger power look here.
Speaker 4 (42:21):
Oh boy, yeah, I mean yeah, yeah, I'll leave that
up to Shannon. Part of me says no, you know, honestly,
when I saw the color this week, it reminded me
of and I know you're a big fan of you know,
Raskellar beer Garden mustard has met like Heinz mustard.
Speaker 1 (42:41):
You have a lot mustard a little bit.
Speaker 4 (42:43):
Lighter and I think, you know, the Rascaler mustard a
little darker. If those two had a baby. I think
that's what Justin Herbert will be wearing.
Speaker 1 (42:51):
All right, fair but great venue. The weather will be great,
I'm sure out in Los Angeles, Colts Chargers coming up Sunday. Kevin,
appreciate it. I know you guys will be all over
it coming up Monday morning on the Fan Morning Show.
Speaker 4 (43:04):
Indeed, you boys have a great weekend, all
Speaker 1 (43:06):
Right, Kevin Bowen joining us on the Java House Peel
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