August 4, 2025 • 56 mins
Today’s Best of Features:
(00:00-23:32) – The Dean, Mike Chappell, from CBS4 and FOX59 joins the program to recap the second week of training camp practices for the Indianapolis Colts. He also discusses the first unofficial depth chart for the Colts, reacts to Jake’s theory as to who will be starting on Baltimore on Thursday, and discusses how Laiatu Latu, DJ Giddens, and Justin Walley have impressed him in camp.
(23:32-36:46) – IndyStar’s Kyle Neddenriep joins Jake Query to discuss the official start of the high school football season. He comments on if it is challenging predicting how good teams will be compared to when he first started covering high school football, identifies a couple of teams that could have good seasons that nobody is entering the season talking about, and touches on the latest gym in his ‘Lost Gyms’ series.
(36:46-56:52) – Fever radio play-by-play broadcaster, John Nolan, joins Query & Company to recap yesterday’s win over the Seattle Storm, accesses if things have changed for the Fever schematically without Caitlin Clark in the last seven games, evaluates when Caitlin Clark could return with the team having a jam packed schedule for the next two weeks, and believes the recent success gives the Fever optimism that they don’t need to rush her back from injury.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The Colts have announced their first Now I have to
say this, of course, unofficial depth chart of the preseason.
No real surprise except for that at the quarterback position.
It simply says Daniel Jones or Anthony Richardson a couple
of other spots we can discuss joining us now to
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do that and more. He is, of course, with CBS four,
WXA and Fox fifty nine, the dean of all riders
when it comes to the Colts, Mike Chappell joining us
on the show, Chap I'm sure you saw the depth
chart released by the Colts before we get to that.
I'm curious of this, do you and how many of
us do you need to help you move? Because I
(00:41):
saw that Jim Mersey's home has it is a pending
cash sale for over the asking price of twelve million.
My understanding is it's about twenty five percent more than
that that was offered in cash, and you move in.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
When well, I tried to low ball them, so you
know my five point five mill I was gonna I had.
I had large bills in the back of my car
that I was going to take there, and they said, hey, yeah,
right buddy.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Yeah, that's right right in a couple of coupons too.
You had coupons, right.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Yeah, I might have been able to rent the the
ice rink that I believe he's got, uh, or one
of the guest houses.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
Maybe I've heard the two guest houses are fabulous, you know,
in all honesty, Chap, what's that they are? You know?
It does make you curious. I think that the and
there's going to be you watch. I mean, there will
be all kinds of speculation and guessing games as to
who bought it until it's announced. I don't know that,
(01:48):
But I don't think we can rule out the possibility, Chap,
that that an out of market simply investor purchased it
just for the land itself, or to you know, to
to build two homes on there, or sell those again individually,
whatever it might be, right, I mean, there's any number
of factors that could go out.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
But they to think you would do that and tear
that place down. I understand what you're saying, But and again,
that's that's that's a world I am simply not familiar with.
I've got a rental property, We've got the wife and
her brother got two rental properties in betro We're trying
to sell and if anybody's interested, give me a call. Uh,
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And it's is the land is important, that that's what's valuable,
not not the houses that are on it. Well, I
just can't see an investor thing, you know, I can
I can put like three properties there or three houses.
I just think that this is somebody that's got kind
of hate to say, too much money in their hands.
But maybe that's the case. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
I've heard, you know, some renovation. My understanding is there
are some renovations. I mean, like any any property. I
don't mean that a bad way at all, right, I
mean Jim Orsay owned it for what thirty years, right,
so you know. But then on top of that, I
don't think there I don't think. I don't even know
if there was an inspection, so I think it was.
You know, you hear people that blind purchase stuff like
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that just as an investment, so you know, we'll see.
But it is fascinating. And then of course everybody's, oh,
it's Bernard Ryman bought it, you know, Peyton Bonnett tear
it down, and you know, YadA YadA YadA. But all right,
let's get to this. Let me tell you the one
thing on the depth chart that, uh, I'm not gonna
say surprise me, but I thought was interesting, and that's
a tight end. The Colts website right now has for
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their depth chart at tight end title Warren. No surprise there,
mo Alei Cox, no surprise there, because he can do
some things that Warren. It's not that Warren can't do them,
but that you wouldn't ask Warre necessarily to do as much,
and that's being like, you know, run game blocker, et cetera.
I was a little intrigued by this, and I know
he's a good player, but Drew Ogletree one spot in
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front of Will Mallory. You know, I think Mallory has
had a really good camp. But do we read into
that in any way, shape or form. And how many
tight ends do they carry?
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Probably four? And I would I would guard against anybody
reading anything into the first unofficial depth chart because teams
have to do it, we pay attention to it. But
this isn't the first time the Colts had an or
I'm telling who it was last year. The year before,
we had a couple of oars. Whether they were at
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can't I can't remember what positions they were, but it's
an interesting piece. And again these are this is met
CONTI going in. I think that the coaches and hey,
we need a depth chart, and each position coach says okay,
hang on them and takes them, you know, thirty seconds
to jot down names. But it's a guideline, is all
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it is. I am with you. I The one guy
that I've noticed in camp that maybe people aren't paying
attention to is Will Mallory. I think he's got a
really good camp drew ography as well. But I think
they keep four tight ends because because when that's how
Shane's shan Stock and loves him some tight ends. He
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just hasn't had tight ends to really love the last,
you know, since since Jack Doyle left. But Tyler Warren's
been everything we anticipated. He dropped the ball the other day,
I'm thinking, what in the hell did I just see?
It was behind him and he got one hand on it,
and you expect him to make that catch because he's
made him so. And it was interesting that, for whatever
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you want to make of it, is Tanner Bordolini is
the starting center ahead of Danny Penri and they have
literally divvied up the snaps at center, as has Richardson
and Jones. But it's just it's a guideline and it
gives you a little bit of insight, but not a lot.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
You know, at the receiver position, Chap, Mike Chapel is
our guest, No real surprises at the receiver position, you know,
Pittman and then Ashton Jel Duelan behind him. Then on
the other side Alec with Ady Mitchell, who I think
kind of resembles Anthony Richardson in the fact that he's
made some good strides but then also taking a little
bit of a step back. What really I find bothers
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him is the receiver spot. You got Pierce Mitchell, then
DJ Montgomery, Blaine Taylor, and then land and Parker. So
my guy land In Parker just because he looks like
Jeff mccoley. That looks like he's got high odds stacked
against him, right, Chap.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
So so you take offense to that on the depth chart? Yeah?
Is that what you're saying?
Speaker 1 (06:29):
That's my guy Landon Parker is my guy?
Speaker 2 (06:32):
Do you take us? Hopefully you don't take offense where
I say, men, you need to get a license. It
is funny because Joel Erickson picks out a guy, uh
every camp and it was the linebacker at JK, I
think it is and we get on him about that,
and the guys had a pretty good camp. But no,
it is kind of cool to find because again, one
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or two of these guys are gonna make it. I
don't think receiver. They're going to probably keep six receivers
on the active roster and then they'll keep three practice
squad probably, so your guy probably has a shot there.
But it's a good thing that right now, Aston Dulan
is your five and Anthony Gould is your six, and
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that's a good that's a good problem, a good issue
to have to have players of who are both having
pretty good camps. At receiver, which which is a good
thing for Goold because he's been primarily a return guy
is playing really well given the chance on offense, so
against so many positions. I like, what's going on. Still
not crazy about linebacker, and all of a sudden they're
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they're their proven depth at cornerback is getting tested, yes,
by by hamstring injuries, and that's a little bit of
a concern.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
And let's let's piggyback off that chap. When you talk
about ham strings. That's a problematic area, right where like
sometimes guy that can linger for guys but typically speaking
or has there been any indication to this when you're
talking about Jalen Jones and Juju Brents both, Has there
been any hint at all or even based on precedent
(08:11):
how much they would miss moving forward, only.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
That Shane Stocking said that that Jalen Joneses was more
I think his term was more severe. You never like
to hear the word severe come from a coach because
they don't like those words. And we didn't get a
day to day week to week here he's going to
miss some time. And again I I Jalen Jones needs
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work in this new system, but he's started gosh twenty
seven games the last two years, so they know what
they've got with him. Juju Brent's for Karnaut Loud. He
needs to he needs to stay on the field. And
here's a case where he didn't. You know, he was
made ava able to the media one day and then
the next day you didn't practice because of the hamstring.
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So I hate to see it. At some point, at
some point the team just says, I'm sorry, we can't
trust you to stay healthy. They're not there with Juju
Brents at all, but he and Daniel Scott, Jelanie Woods
guys that have been hurt. You know, I think, boy,
these guys have got something, but they can't stay healthy. Uh.
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But cornerback, I think Jaylen Jones is gonna miss some time.
That's Chap speak, not I can speak. Uh, just because
of what coach said. And again, uh Mooney Ward missed
practice one day or two days and apparently got tighteness
in the leg, which that I assume that's a hamstringer
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or whatever. And I tell you these guys that are
that are vets that really anybody that has something, they
hold him out, whether it's the Forest Buckner one day
had a foot is shoes that held him out. Uh,
So they just they don't push it in training camp
in pre season, I think there's going to be a
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handful of veterans not play much in preseason defense. I'm saying,
even though this is a new defense that needed to
play together, the wards and maybe cam buying them and
the force buck different credit a loud. I know what
the Forest buck can do. I know what Gerver Stewart
can do. They need some snaps just because you don't
want their first significant work to be in the in
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the opener, but they will be limited. I think offensively
is a different matter entirely because of the quarterback. And
I heard you guys talking earlier about what they might do,
what they will do. But again, Kevin Boeller and I
talked about this, and I think that they need to
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have a quarterback decided after two games and then really
peel back the starter and not play much in the
third game. And Kevin thinks they just need to play,
which and he's probably he's probably right.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
Well, Jeb, you heard what I was saying in this.
I do think the starter is going to be Anthony
and I said when they signed him, I thought it
was gonna be Daniel Jones. I've I've flopped on that.
I will admit where I was wrong where I thought
that the yes, and I think it's going to be Richardson
and they're going to give him and and you know,
the sands are running through the hourglass here. But having
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said that to me, the one thing that I think
they would tell you is that they realized they aired
and handing him the keys too early, and so the
final yeah, and so Therefore, I think they are going
to take the competition as late into the equation as
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they can to continue to push him and make sure
that he does not And again, I want to be
very clear here, I'm not saying that Richardson is a
bad guy, that he has, you know, off field issues,
I'm not saying that. But in terms of his focus,
you want him to whatever they did to push him
so far has more off been shown that it is
working as opposed to not. And therefore you want to
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continue pushing him that direction for as long as you
possibly can to keep him focused. Would you agree with that?
Speaker 2 (12:13):
Boy? If I agree with that, then then then I'm
pointing out a rigison weakness and that he has to
be pushed to do his job. And that was the
problem the first two years is I guess in Layman's
term there was too much enabling going on.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
Right, That's right, right?
Speaker 2 (12:34):
Well, but god, you've got to be this is his
third year. You've got to be past that. You just
have to be that such a position coach is get
on him, and the courtate and get on him. But
my goodness, if they need to push him in the
third preseason game so that he doesn't have a lapse,
then you've got the wrong You've got the wrong guy.
You just do I think I think he needs to
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start the opener because they have simply got to find
out what they have. Can he stay healthy? Can he
do the job better? I was looking here. I actually
did some homework before before the show today, and in
eleven on eleven passing in campus nine practices, I've got
Richardson at fifty eight percent and Jones at roughly sixty
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seven sixty eight percent. I would take Richardson fifty eight
percent all day.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
I would agree that's not a big enough separation for
Jones to win that job.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
No, No, and Jones has been I think what we
thought decent arm strength, not great arm strength, more effective underneath.
He still holds the ball too long in my mind.
But Richardson just gives you the shock plays he does,
and he's been better on the underneath things. He's still gosh.
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I think it was Saturday they played red zone in
like the first section the first session. He throws an
interception in the end zone from like the five yard
by whatever it was. You can't do that, you can't
of all the things you can't do as the quarterback ees,
central pick sixes. You can't. You can't throw an interception
around the goal line. You just can't. I saw to
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Rick Venturia and he said, do you trust him? And
I said, yeah, no, I don't. Uh, just because of
the short sample size.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
I've got to go on.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
But my goodness, he's just his ceiling is so high.
But at some point again, he's got to do it.
He's got to stay on. He's got to stay on
the field. And so far, you know, knock on wood,
he's not missed time for anything, a sore shoulder and
all that. If I'm him and I've got a sore shoulder,
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I keep it to myself. I realize if you're a pitcher,
maybe you can't do that. But uh, I think that
part of it is he's past that because they've thrown
quite a bit. But he's just he's just looked better
I think overall with what he brings. And if he's
fifty eight percent and he gives you the shot plays
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and he gives you I don't know, sixty yards of
game rushing and he picks up third and seven with
his legs or whatever, now you got to cut down
on the whatever it was twelve interceptions or whatever it
was last year. You can't have that with only eight touchdowns.
But they can just do so much more with him,
and you need to find out he either stays healthy
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or he doesn't. If he doesn't, you say, well, this
is who he is. You know, a guy that's missed
half of his games with injuries. And that's where you know, okay,
we can't rely, but you need to find out. You
don't find out by by starting the season with Jones,
who is going to give you a more of an
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even you know, line on how he plays. But and
then what do you get with Richardson? You just don't know.
So to me, he's done nothing to lose the job.
I think he I thought I've always thought he had
the would have to really have an awful camp, just
an awful camp to not be the starter.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
And listen, and baseball, a tie goes to the runner.
In football, a tie goes to the incumbent.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
Right, Well, it's like you gotta knock out the champ.
And I think that sort of had to be what
what Jones? He either had to knock him out, which
he hasn't done, or Richardson had to play terrible, which
he hasn't done, which is encouraging. Had one bad day,
I think it was Saturday, was a bad day, a
not really good day in pads. So I think that's encouraging. Uh,
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And how they're going to do it again? He stike
and told us that both guys were going to play
quite amount of a good amount in these first two games.
Howie does it will make a big deal whether it's
Jones and the opener in Baltimore and then the other
guy then Richardson in the second game, but they're both
going to play. And I think what's interesting is with
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the quarterbacks playing as much as they're going to play,
maybe I don't know, three quarters, I don't know. Do
you play your starting offensive line that long? You know
it's because because then you're exposing your other quarterback to
playing with guys who have had an uneven training camp,
although they'll be going against the other team's backups at
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some point, So really interesting. Again, I would hope that
I would think that games, how they do in games
will have carry more weight than eleven on eleven and
seven on seven and how they go in meeting rooms,
and I understand all that goes together but how they
actually play on Thursday night or Saturday night against the Packers.
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I just think that carries more weight and I'm curious.
I'm really curious how it goes. I've been encouraged by Richardson,
I really have been, but I just can't get those
first two years out of my head. I know, I
know that's my blind spot.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
I mean, there's a little PTSD the right of not
only from a consistency but from an availability standpoint. Mike Chappel,
our guest Chap I wanted to ask you this as well,
you know, a couple of years ago, and I'm not
saying it was the right narrative. Maybe it was too
trendy a thing to say, but we got into this
and I'm not saying you, but when the league started
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becoming really passer friendly, and they're throwing up Star Wars numbers,
and you know, Goff and Mahomes are having games where
it's going into the fifties, and people started saying, well,
the running backs become the fungible position. That's the position
that you can just kind of get a guy off
the street in week eight and it gives you a
good game. Whatever else. Maybe we started to see the
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value at the running back position again in the National
Football League. But I'm curious of this if you agree
or disagree, or can expand on it. In today's NFL.
Defensively speaking, are we entering into an arena now where
defensive backfield is hyper important, pass rush is important, and
thus your linebacker corps is the one that can be
(19:03):
for you the most pedestrian.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
Probably, although you need to have you know, you give
me a shackle letter, you know when in the second
and third year, even rookie, I'd take that on a heartbeat.
Middle linebacker tackles maybe maybe. Now if you're Zaire and
he you know, he had the second team off pro
less here were gonna get three and a half sacks
and eleven tackles for loss and a couple of interceptions,
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that's different. Just don't give me tackles because those can
be you know, how many taxes were down the field. Whatever.
But yeah, you better have gosh, you better have four
corners that you trust. You better have three safeties that
you trust, because that's what teams are going to. Kennymore
Holy Smokes, his value as a nickel is off the charts.
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They think this the justin Wally kid can can kind
of be that list that side.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
Wally's been impressive though, and they made no bonds bones
about the fact they' been impressed.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
To them, right right, But but again, and then when
you have Mooney Ward, who can be that shutdown guy.
You know, think back to Vonte Davis, the late Vonte Davis.
He was pretty good, a couple of Pro Bowls, uh,
and the one year with Stefan Gilmour. They've not had
that guy often enough. And they again the injuries injuries
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are a little bit of concerned because all of a sudden,
guys Sam Oomack, who's like your good fifth guy, as
that he's playing more.
Speaker 4 (20:30):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
But again it's early preseason and except for the running
back yesterday in Jalen Jones, they've really avoided the major injuries.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
Knock on wood, I.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
Know, but so so Yeah, it's with the running backs.
I think I've always valued Jonathan Taylor. Now I I
don't know how long I would value him, you know,
five years, six years, because there there is an expiration.
They one running backs, although Derrick Henry would tell you
to go fly a kite because there hasn't been one
(21:05):
on him. He's an alien like Jerry Rice. But I
think the Colts have absolutely wasted two outstanding years by
Jonathan Tavor. It still boggles my mind that he rushes
for eighteen hundred yards and you don't make the playoffs.
But they're gonna they're gonna maximize his talents and they should.
I may have mentioned to you I was shocked when
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someone posted a note that he's average eighty nine yards
in his career. That's the highest active yards per game
in the NFL, higher than Derrick Henry. So it just
shows you. Yes, he dropped the freaking football at Denver,
which killed him, but he's a quality player and they're
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gonna they're gonna lean on him a ton. I hope
he stays healthy enough. I like DJ Giddens, the rookie.
He's looked pretty good. So but yeah, you're right, it
sort of has swung. Uh, it's to where you're you're
valuing pass rush. You're always going to value that, and
they've had they had a really good pass rush the
last week or so. Now is that, you know, good
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for them, or you know, offensive line pick up your game.
Lat has had a great camp, absolutely great camp, and
they need him to be the guy, not just a guy.
They need him to be kind of like the tip
of the spear. And then all of a sudden, you're
okay with Quitty Pei get you eight or nine sacks,
and Buckner give me his He'll he'll give you eight
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sacks as long as he stays healthy, because that's that's
who he is. And get something from kom so it.
But but lots and he needs to be the guy,
and he's he's dominated training camp. He just has but
pass rush, cover quarterback and running back and then got
the receivers are just going off the charts as far
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as pay so. But yeah, it has swung in a
little bit to where we're not seeing four hundred yard
passing games like we did back in the day. Has
swung a little bit to more of a can control
passing game. So you need to have corners. You need
to have to where you're gonna play maybe two linebackers
on an extra dB most of the time.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
Mike Chapels CBS four wxin Fox fifty nine where you
see his coverage and of course Colt's getting set Thursday,
preseason game number one against the Baltimore Ravens, chap appreciated
as always, talked to you soon, all.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
Right, talk cat you next week. You guys be well.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
I appreciate it. Mike Chapel joining us, joining us now,
and I'm sure thrilled to be doing so, Eddie, I
believe you have the proper introduction for him, correct.
Speaker 4 (23:37):
Speaking of lost and clueless. So we bring on Kyle
Nrip from the NSTR.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
Yeah, he joined us now in the guest line, Indianapolis
star Kyle Neddrip, of course, the high school writer for
football basketball primarily joining US now. And I want to
begin with that, Kyle. It is man, it happens earlier
and earlier, right, But basically high school football season is
upon us.
Speaker 4 (23:58):
Yeah, the officials Star practices today, which is sort of
a unofficial official I would say, anymore, because most teams
are practicing, you know. There all teams are able to
under the rules now able to practice and do things
throughout the spring and summer. So it's sort of more
of a symbolic start, I would say, But it is
the start, and you know, teams are you know, unable
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to you know, you can't have ads on today tomorrow,
but then get after it on Wednesday and then we'll
be here basically next a week from Friday with the
scrimmages and then the following week with games.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
So yeah, it is.
Speaker 4 (24:33):
It's definitely. Uh, it's here, and it's always fun because
you know, the start of school kind of you know,
coincides with football and kind of signifies the new year.
And I always look forward to that kind of restart,
you know, not only the football season, but you know,
the school year for all these kids going back to school.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
Now, by the way, Kyle, before we get into that,
I'll let you enter the same arena that Mike Chappa
was just in because there's going to be all kinds
of speculation because Jim Mr say his home has a
pending sale, a cash sale at over asking price. Do
you want to wager on who it's going to be?
Speaker 4 (25:08):
Oh? Boy, it's not Chap, is it.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
That's right? He got out of the print side of things,
got into the TV money and now all of a sudden,
you know, let's go right.
Speaker 4 (25:19):
The money rolls in rum gosh. I I I would, man,
I would venture somebody in the in the sports or maybe,
but but yeah, I don't even know. I don't even
know where to start.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
I think clubhouse leader on this is outside market investor,
blind purchase investor.
Speaker 4 (25:41):
Yeah, that could be man that speaking of that, the
full court indoor basketball court was, Man, how how awesome
was that? It's like, man, they should they should actually
play high school games in there.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
That's how about the hockey?
Speaker 4 (25:53):
It's cool that place was Yeah exactly, I mean, man,
my goodness, what a what a what a life? You know,
that's that's super cool. Yeah, I don't even know, I
don't even know where to start.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
But you know, Tyrese Haliburtons again, I'm going to best.
I'm going to guess out of country investor. That is
strictly a guess and probably a dumb one, Kyle, when
it comes to and I know you have your article
up right now. You know eight things we're looking for
here in terms of high school football for the year.
And it is early, but practice getting underway today. From
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an official standpoint, aside from the the obvious power hitters
that we talk about every year, is there a school
or a team that it looks like this year you
are intrigued by because they could make a real jump
that maybe in the normal season we don't talk a
lot about.
Speaker 4 (26:42):
Yeah, I mean, you're probably talking more six s a
you know, as we get started here. But I would say,
you know, from a standpoint of a team that you
know has been a little bit off the radar but
has been building, I would say, and I'm not saying
they're state title contenders necessarily, but maybe could be. Is
probably Pike. You know, they're a team that has been
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you know, on the rise here these last couple of
years under Mike Broward, who uh you know came from
Fort Wayne and and but it is really from here,
has a really unique backstory by the way, but he
you know, he's kind of got that program going in
the right direction. They were five and five last year
and and sort of a slow build from you know,
one win to I believe they had three the next
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year and then five last year and have started to
you know, get some continuity. I saw them play Fishers
last year and beat them in a really good game
early in the year. But uh, you know, they still
have a I would say to be a state contender.
And six they just really tough. I'm not sure if
they're that uh you know, to that level just quite yet,
but but maybe getting there closer to that one team
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that we do talk a lot about and they were
having the past. Who maybe fits this category is Carmel,
which h you know, they've kind of been a little
bit down these last couple of years. They were three
and seven last year, and and but have Kevin right
back as coach, and after a decade of sort of
being out of the state.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
Or out at least out of the high school.
Speaker 4 (28:09):
Football in the state, I really think he's going to
get that program going and he just doesn't lose, you know,
so you kind of assume they're going to be and
they do have a lot of talent, so you know,
I know, Carmel's not necessarily an upset pick by any means,
but but maybe considering the you know that they have
only had three wins, you know, last year, and then
we're five and five the year before that, there there
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may be someone who fits that you know distinction a
little bit. But I think they're going to be. We'll
find out early in the season because they play Fishers
in Westfield right off the bat, so you know, we'll
kind of see where they're at. But I would say
they might fit that, you know, kind of that sleeper
as much as you can put Carmel as a sleeper
in any sport, but they might fit that category.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
Right now, Kyle, when you look at your time in
covering high school sports in Indiana, this is season number
what for you?
Speaker 4 (29:00):
It's eighteen?
Speaker 1 (29:00):
Okay. I was going to say, yes, seventeen. Yeah, so
eighteen right, so in the time that you've done it.
And this is kind of a maybe this isn't getting
into the weeds question, but I am curious. The rules
of enrollment in Indiana high schools are different than they
were traditionally thirty years ago of you know, you live
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in this area or this township, you go to this school,
or you go to a private school kind of end
of story. Now, with the ability to go to you know,
with all of the charters, or the ability to you know,
with select school, to go to a different township than
where you live, et cetera, has it made consistency of
high school athletics harder to predict in the And I
(29:42):
know that they have transfer rules with the ISSA, and
the ISSA does the best they can to try to
preserve all of that, But just how big a variable
or challenge has that been versus say, fifteen years ago.
Speaker 4 (29:55):
Yeah, and especially now you know with the you know,
the change that was made with the first time transfer rule,
you know, and well that will have to play itself
out and you know, we don't have any data on
that just yet, you know, but you know, some schools
are and I think more and more schools now definitely
are you know, open enrollment. Some schools even now though,
are still you know, they don't take kids from out
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of the out of the district, you know, so I
think that will you know, more and more and more
schools are are are the other way now where they
do take and now that you can go out of district,
it's it's I think advisable that you probably should, you know,
allow kids to come in if you have room for them, obviously.
But yeah, I mean, I think there's just it's a
(30:37):
little bit more and it's always in this area, to
be honest. It's it's always been a little bit more
fluid as far as kids moving around and going, whether
they're actually physically moving or you know, switching schools. It's
always been, I think in Central Indiana and Indianapolis especially
a little bit more of a transient situation, you know,
(30:57):
And I think it's maybe become a little bit more
all over this day now. Uh, but it's you know,
I think there are kids definitely who you know, are
in a situation, especially now where you can transfer, get
a first time transfer. You know, you're you're going to
see more of that where hey, I may not be
playing at this school, I'm going to go uh over
here and where I can play. And that may be
(31:20):
more of the transfers that you see rather than the
rather than the huge names, uh, you know, the kids
who are big names transferring and maybe more of that
uh in the future, you know, based on this rule.
What this rule is, I don't know. You know, I
still think in football, though, it's it's so hard to
you know, like what Pike is doing or other schools
have done with with you know, trying to get your
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your program on the map. It's just it's just really
hard when you're battling those year in and year at
powerhouses that are always good because football is a numbers
game obviously, and you know, kids want to go to
those schools or be involved in those schools that that
have had the history and have the tradition, and you know,
you're kind of fighting an uphill battle and football a
lot of times because it is such a such a
numbers game and and that sort of thing. But so
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it's a little bit easier I think at football maybe
than other sports to predict, you know, who will be good.
That said, though, six A is always hard because it's
like it kind of changes hands all the time. It's
it's really hard to win back to back championships, and
you know, there's just so much quality in six A round,
especially around here. It just kind of it's not a
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big group of schools that it changes hands from, but
it's they definitely battle each other for that top spot.
And that's what makes it so fun and so good
is just the competition at the top of that class.
And I think we'll see that again this year. It's
just not a lot that separates that that top team
from the rest.
Speaker 1 (32:43):
Kyle when you look Kyle Needrip is our guest from
the Indianapolis Star. You know, part of your I'm going
to say offseason in air quotes, but between you know,
the basketball and football seasons that are your primary beat.
You did a really interesting series here lost Indiana and
going around and seeing just some of the old historic gems.
(33:04):
Which one is the one that most awed you when
you walked in.
Speaker 4 (33:10):
I really like most of these, I've been to probably
all of them. We did ten of them, so we're
at number eight right now, so we have two more
to go. You know, I tried to pick out I
did a book many years ago on that included a
lot of these gym. I think probably all of them
but one were in the book originally. So most of these
(33:31):
I've been in before. But I would say, you know,
the Jasper, the caveo'nil gym, just because they've done so
much work to it, the volunteer work, and you know,
they that gym was sort of on its last legs
it appeared, and then it was actually needed once they
had some a storm that basically you know, they couldn't
use the Jasper gym that they'd built, so they moved
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the games back there. This has been about ten or
twelve years ago, and actually used it, you know, for
a full season as their home gym again. And now
it's part of their you know community again. It's it's
used by different teams, so that one's really cool, and
it sort of incorporates, you know, some of the old
you know, they have the old green bleachers about a
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row of them anyway, that are still in there that
you can you can see they have a lot of
the newspaper articles framed up on the walls, you know,
so they've done a good job of sort of incorporating
the old with the new in that one as much
as you can with an old gym. But probably my
favorite Economy, which is in Wayne County, and it's it's
a little town that's barely a dot on the map,
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but they have a wood frame white it looks like
a barn, you know, if you're driving on the highway
there and happened to drive by it. But it is
so small, basically, you know. And the cool thing about
what we're able to do is is coordinate to interview
people in the gym as they're sitting there on the court.
And you know, there was probably four or five people
(34:55):
who you know, were crying when we talked to them
about these places, and it was and that was you know,
just really neat to kind of invoke that emotion of
being back in those places. And that happened at Economy
with a couple of people we talked to. But you know,
that's just you walk in there and it's and I
walked in there probably almost twenty years ago, now for
the first time, and there was a pickup game going
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on when I went in there, and I couldn't believe
it that they played high school basketball there. It was
just so so small. The out of bounds lines are
the are the walls at the end, one wall at
the end of the court. It's just so tiny. So
you know, so that one's really special to me, unique
to me, and you know, I really enjoy that one.
But you know, it's it's it's really all of them.
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The ver Sales Gym, the Tyson Auditorium that was in
today's was today's edition. You know, that one's got a
lot of history from the Island team playing there in
their home games in fifty three fifty four because their
own gym was too small, So that one's really neat
as well. So I would I would, you know, one
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of those Versailles Economy Jasper. Those were all really really
fun ones to go to. But they're all special, they're
all you know, I've enjoyed just hearing the memories of
all of the people we've talked to and just get
getting in those places again. Was just a lot of fun.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
Economy, just to the northeast of Hagerstown, and just kind
of northwest of Richmond, Indiana is where that small town is. Kyle,
appreciate it as always look forward to talking to you
over the course of the season, all right. And by
the way, if it makes you feel any better, three
fifths of the people that I interview also end up crying.
So I mean that's you know what I mean, that's
we got that in common exactly. Well.
Speaker 4 (36:39):
I appreciate Jake anytime. Appreciate you having me on.
Speaker 1 (36:42):
I appreciate it. Kyle Needrip joining us from the Indianapolis Star.
Speaker 5 (36:47):
Alia practices her forum A bounce, the free throw too
strong rebound. Seattle just don't foul, they don't.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
Get a shot off.
Speaker 6 (36:54):
Man.
Speaker 1 (36:55):
That does it.
Speaker 5 (36:56):
Final score Fever seventy eight Storm, and now you know
the Fever have won five in a row, extending their
longest winning streak of this season, and Indiana moves past
Seattle in the standings.
Speaker 1 (37:11):
John Nolan on the call last night, technically yesterday late afternoon,
Fever winning in Seattle over the Storm. And each time
that Seattle, in fact, did try to call it a comeback,
the Fever would weather the storm. See what I did there,
But it was solid and I thought in listening to
the game, Thank you Eddie and listening to the game.
(37:34):
The one thing that you and I listened to John
for the better part of the second half as I
was out running Erond's yesterday and John, one of the
things that really jumped out at me, And this is
what I really like about this team is the fact
that they are now getting it from multiple areas, and
by that I mean different players on different nights. I
thought last night on Natasha Howard was fantastic, and each
(37:56):
time they needed a basket, seemingly she is the one
that they went to, and that balance is making them
very dangerous. You agree with that statement, and thanks for
joining us.
Speaker 6 (38:08):
Hey, Jake, thanks for having me on, Thanks for listening yesterday.
One hundred percent agree. And I know you had Tat
Boyle and TV Voice of the Fever on last week,
and you know, he made a comment bringing up, you know,
sort of parallel to what we saw from the great
Pacers run this past season, and he was talking a
bit about how the placer said whether the injuries in
(38:31):
the first half of the season and then got it going.
And you know, another thing that really does give you
those Pacers vibes here is what the Fever are doing
right now is that you don't really know who it
is it's going to step up and have the big game.
So how about this last Sunday at Chicago, part of
this five game winning streak for the Fever. Unbelievably, Tosh
Howers didn't score, didn't even have a rebound. He wound
(38:51):
up not playing too much. That was a game when
the rookie kk Timpson came off the bench and had
the best game so far of her career.
Speaker 3 (38:58):
So Tosh great teammate.
Speaker 6 (38:59):
I think she had to play on social media afterwards
about how, hey, this is the safe a team where
you know, we're happy for each other. So one night
it's going to be somebody's you know, time to step up.
Another time it's going to be somebody else's. So yes
yesterday Tash at Seattle twenty one point five five assists too,
And as we talk about how it's truly a team
right now, especially with we went out of the lineup,
(39:22):
being how you don't know who really is going to
have a great game, because yesterday was an offshooting performance
for Kelsey Mitchell. But you know, one thing that really
just epitomizes that team effort. Here is the assist rate.
They assisted on twenty seven of their thirty two made shots.
That's more than eighty percent of their baskets. That is
a pretty insane assist percentage to have, and it really
just epitomizes what they're doing here.
Speaker 1 (39:44):
Do you look, John, if you look at the way
things have come together for them, are they schematically doing
anything differently in terms of and I know you have
to adjust when you have somebody that is as important
as Caitlin Clark not on the floor, but in terms
of their ball distribution or getting the ball to operating areas,
are they are they schematically doing things differently?
Speaker 6 (40:07):
Yeah, that's a good question, and so they certainly here
after their best of late Steph White puts it, as
you know, making the ball pop and the ball movement
die to side, and there are some possessions where it's
like no one even dribbles. I think schematically though, One
thing that from the first go around, when Caitlyn was
out and without Caitlin, all of a sudden, the pace
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took a pretty dramatic dip. It was like a split
of when Caitlyn was playing, they had the fastest pace
in the league, and then when Caitlyn wasn't playing, they
were sorting the bottom of the league.
Speaker 3 (40:37):
In case now you really do have to.
Speaker 6 (40:39):
Give a lot of flowers to Airy McDonald's, who is
as quick as anyone up there with Kelsey and Caitlin
and so gematically they haven't slowed down their pace since
they now have gotten Airy fluid here and you know,
on this rest of the season contract. So schematically it's
not night and day different. You know, they're able to
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have Aleiah Boston now as a big facilitator. I mean
when you look at the individual assists yesterday, McDonald had nine,
mentioned Howard had five, Mitchell had five, you know, Leah
multiple assists to so stematically, it hasn't had to be
a great change now if they've had Aery McDonald's holding
the tide at point guard.
Speaker 1 (41:20):
You know, I typically John, and I'm curious if you've
ever realized that you're in this fraternity. I don't typically
trust people with two first names. You're a guy with
two first names. Do you think of that as Nolan
not a common enough first name?
Speaker 6 (41:32):
Yeah, obviously here as we talk on sports radio, Nolan Ryan,
you know, one of the most iconic fatuers of all time.
Speaker 3 (41:38):
But I don't feel like I run into a lot
and Nolan.
Speaker 1 (41:41):
I trust Nolan Ryan. And that's a guy with two
first names. Interestingly enough, But so.
Speaker 3 (41:46):
My basketball is like forty five miles an hour.
Speaker 1 (41:49):
Here's I'm coming up with a new rule on this, Okay.
In order to be somebody that is categorized as a
guy with two first names, the last name has to
be the more common first name of the two. So
Nolan Ryan accounts because Ryan is more common than Nolan. Right, yes,
(42:09):
but Nolan's not more common than John. So I think
you're safe.
Speaker 3 (42:13):
I am safe or not?
Speaker 1 (42:15):
No, I think you're safe.
Speaker 6 (42:16):
Okay, Yes, still morning hours out on the West coast.
Brand's not fully firing here yet all or maybe you
can debate ever, but yeah, I'll take word.
Speaker 1 (42:28):
For it here technically speaking, Eddie Garrison, guy with two
first names, don't trust him at all? Right, isn't that right,
my Garrison?
Speaker 5 (42:34):
Car?
Speaker 1 (42:35):
You know, I'm just saying for what it's worth. John,
what does happen when when Caitlin Clark comes back. Look,
she's a great player, I get it. I mean there
is not a world out there where you would not
want her on the floor. But at the same time,
they are playing so well right now, and how much
of that is out of necessity of having to distribute,
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having to balance without her out there, And how intriguing
is it going to be when you have to not
have to but when you then bring her and acclimate
her back in.
Speaker 6 (43:08):
Yeah, I think the perspective to probably have right now
is that it's awesome to see what the team has
been able to accomplish here without Caitlin, a five game
winning streak for the first time in a decade, and so.
Speaker 3 (43:18):
They're showing that clearly here.
Speaker 6 (43:20):
Even unfortunately without Caitlin, they're a playoff team and for
that matter, rising up in the standings, currently in fifth
and only a half game out of fourth, and shoot
just two games out of the two seeds as it
currently stands in the WNBA. But I think the perspective
to have is that with Caitlin coming back, figure scrossed.
I mean, it seems like she's on track to you
(43:42):
later this month, you know, all of a sudden, now
the team would have the ceiling of perhaps being a
title contender to get Minnesota links. Right now, they're on
another level from everyone else.
Speaker 3 (43:52):
In the league.
Speaker 6 (43:53):
Even though the Fever did beat them and the Commissioner's
Cup Championship game without Caitlin. But I think the perspective
is that now with Caitlyn's back to if she's gonna
have less pressure on her, you.
Speaker 3 (44:01):
Know, over the course of.
Speaker 6 (44:02):
Her career, whether it was at Iowa or last year
as a rookie, and she's kind of felt probably like
she needs to do more than typical. Right now, I
think you know, she's able to witness, you know, the
strength of everybody else and you know, perhaps can be
even more of a facilitator than she already was. I mean,
she was already sex in the league and assists per game,
but you know, recognizing that she's not going to really
(44:23):
need to be forcing things.
Speaker 1 (44:26):
John Nolan is our guest radio play by play voice
of the Indiana Fever Fever winning last night in Seattle, Eddie,
what tide did that game end? Oh? For five? I
keep saying last night. I mean it was technically late afternoon,
right afternoon game. John. It was loud in that joint
man like Seattle, And I know that Seattle has been,
(44:48):
you know, a really good location for the w but
you mentioned that the I think you said that the
upper levels were only sixty percent full, but even still
at one point, I mean it got raucous in that
place in the late third.
Speaker 6 (45:00):
Yeah, it really was a tremendous environment. And while it
wasn't a sellout, they still did have over sixteen thousand fans.
And credit to the fans in Seattle, where they're tied
for having one of the most titles in WNBI history,
So they've got a rich tradition, they have their own fans,
and of course it's been fun most road games this
year for the Fever. We joke about how it feels
(45:21):
like a home game, and while there were lots of fans,
they're wearing Fever retire. Yesterday, I mean I think it
was a pro Seattle crab. You could you could hear that, right, Yeah,
I mean that also makes yesterday's victory for the Fever
even more impressive because Seattle made some runs in the
second half and you know, got within a point there
down the stretch, had chances to tie in the game,
(45:42):
and well, as.
Speaker 3 (45:43):
You put it, the Fever weather that's the worm Listen.
Speaker 1 (45:48):
I was pretty proud of that. When I came up
with that, that was off top of my tad too, John,
you know what I mean?
Speaker 6 (45:51):
Like Heay, all right, Jake, we're friends. Now about how
about a text here when you get that one, you know,
during the game yesterday, so I could drop that in.
Speaker 1 (46:00):
Listen, hardly original, I realize, right, I mean, I will
admit that. By the way, aside from obviously within your
responsibilities WNBA wise, how many times have you previously been
to or been able to experience Seattle.
Speaker 6 (46:15):
Yeah, I'd never been to Seattle until the two trips
here for the Fever this season and now coming to
you from LA, where I'm also visiting for the first time.
Speaker 1 (46:25):
Really, never been to La before.
Speaker 3 (46:27):
Never been to La.
Speaker 6 (46:28):
I've been to California, San Francisco, San Diego, San Jose,
but first time here.
Speaker 1 (46:33):
Okay, I'm going to ask you John, before we get
back to the Fever. I'm going to ask you a
Jake query La question, and I want you to answer
it with all honesty. Okay, oh boy, Okay, after going
and seeing Oasis in Manchester and like still reliving it
because they were two just unbelievable shows and they are
going to be playing in early September at the Rose Bowl. Okay,
(46:56):
So because of just the you know the beauty of
past Dina, the Rose bulletself iconic venue. I just decided,
you know what, I'm gonna do it, So I bought
a ticket by myself. Okay, Shannon didn't want to go,
So I bought a ticket by myself to go by
myself to fly to LA buy my solo one ticket
to go to the show. And when I get out
there on Saturday morning, I'm going to fulfill my quest
(47:19):
of going and finding the spawn Ranch where the Manson
family lived in the old western movie ranch set where
they all lived during the the Manson Murders, where the
family was living before they went to Barker Ranch. And
then I might try to find Barker Ranch as well.
Which of those two aspects, me going solo or me
seeking out spawning Barker Ranch is more bizarre?
Speaker 3 (47:40):
Well, okay, yeah, you took me on a ride here.
I was thinking, like, wow, this is so beautiful.
Speaker 6 (47:44):
You're gonna be able to experience oasis.
Speaker 3 (47:46):
Yeah, picturesque steady now is that?
Speaker 6 (47:49):
And I've got your nightmares and the Manson family rolling
through my head. So I think it's really cool, even
if it's a solo trip. I think you right, those
are eight it's a concert, especially from Ryford, or really
such a I don't know, for lack of a better word,
magical kind of experience. Even though you're there by yourself,
you're going to be with so many people who are
just like a good piece of humanity that's not really
(48:12):
there by yourself.
Speaker 1 (48:12):
I probably should not tell any of them that previously
in the day I went and found the Spawn and.
Speaker 6 (48:17):
Barbara say that would probably be the only situation that
arises where you could be isolated out of people.
Speaker 1 (48:24):
Are Are you an Oasis fan?
Speaker 6 (48:27):
I can't claim to be a huge Oasis fan, maybe
a little bit like Steph White in your conversation with
her a week or two ago, where I have an appreciation,
but I do have to like your like yourself. I
have some other friends who are huge fans, friendly with
a guy.
Speaker 3 (48:41):
Who's actually a sports talk radio host as well, who.
Speaker 6 (48:43):
Similarly went over there to uh across the Pond to
see a show, and I thought he had a great
recap of it and thought it was like a life
changing experience faith and just like restoring faith in humanity.
Speaker 3 (48:56):
The play by play.
Speaker 6 (48:57):
Guy for the Baltimore Orioles on TV, Kevin brand. I
think his bio here on Twitter and that he is
the world's biggest Oasis fan. He's a friend of mine,
So I, yes, you know, I've got some time here
on these road trips.
Speaker 3 (49:08):
I got to start. I gotta look in this more Oasis.
Speaker 1 (49:11):
I'm telling you, I'll send you a playlist. They're fabulous,
They're absolutely fabulous. What do we guestimate is the return
date for Caitlin Clark? And I want to be clear,
John Nolan, the radio play by play voice, I'm not
putting you in the position here of speaking for the franchise.
This is strictly prognostication. But when you look at the schedule,
Eddie and I have touched in the fact that you know,
(49:32):
she's like, look, we've got to get her acclimated to
practices before we then go in the game situation. Based
on that, it would seem to me like the seventeenth,
when they have five days to prepare, would be a
kind of a nice soft landing spot. But is that
stretching it too far?
Speaker 3 (49:50):
Right?
Speaker 6 (49:50):
So, actually, I think they have a game on the
seventeenth on the road, and then there's the five days
off of the twenty second.
Speaker 1 (49:55):
Okay, So the twenty second winks.
Speaker 6 (49:57):
Yeah, yeah, So yeah, think what you're saying there is
a logical I think there's been some reporting like yesterday
in Seattle, Caitlin had an individual workout since there wasn't
a team practice before that afternoon game. So I think,
you know, that sort of seems to be a stepping stone.
Speaker 3 (50:13):
So like the.
Speaker 6 (50:14):
Individual workouts and then trying to be reintegrated into the
team workouts, you know, as long as she's feeling well.
Speaker 3 (50:20):
So I think you're I here.
Speaker 6 (50:23):
I am with you on on the logic and reason.
And I guess one other factor to consider now though,
is like they definitely don't need a rusher, right, I
mean the team here.
Speaker 3 (50:31):
Is one five in a row.
Speaker 1 (50:34):
If that plays into it, right.
Speaker 6 (50:36):
Right, I think they already were at a position where
you know, they got to have the long term vision
and you know, not rush at all regardless, but it
certainly helps, right Uh. Now you don't have to have
any kind of you know, outside influence of feeling. You're like,
let's say, all of a sudden, this was going south
the other way and now you're fighting just to make
the playoffs. Yeah, it's going to be kind of human
(50:56):
nature for everyone to maybe uh feel some pressure, but
as stands now, that would not.
Speaker 3 (51:01):
Be the case.
Speaker 1 (51:02):
You know, their continued streak here with Aliah Boston of
double doubles. I think she had sixteen to twelve last night.
She has been a model of consistency for the fever,
John Nolan. Are they prioritizing feeding Aliah Boston or is
Aliah Boston getting her points and scheming within the offense
almost as a byproduct of other stuff going on around her?
Speaker 3 (51:26):
Right? Yeah, I think you hit on it there.
Speaker 6 (51:28):
They certainly there. They're not forcing the ball to anyone,
and a game the game, you're going to see different,
you know, just to th off the personnel that the
other team had. I think you were talking about this
with Steph recently, right, how Like the WNBA has evolved,
and so game the game you're you're looking at unique
matchups and unique styles, and so I think this team
(51:50):
just done a good job shown that they can adapt.
I mean, yesterday was a grinded out game in the seventies.
Going back one of their wins here in this streak
last week at home against Phoenix, one of the highest
scoring the franchise history. Both teams, uh clips thing one
hundred points, So you know, I think they're able to uh,
you know that one where they probably would have liked
to have played better defense there. They don't necessarily want
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to be giving up one hundred plots, but you know,
showing that they can adapt. And you have a player
like a Leah who even over the course of a game,
in that one against Phoenix, she was held in check
for a few quarters and then boom erupted in the fourth. So, uh,
they're gonna just relax. Of a better description, maybe you're
just like go with the flow with whoever's you know,
(52:31):
whoever's night or whoever's quarter, even based off what they're
what they're seeing from the defense they're taking advantage of.
Speaker 1 (52:37):
And you you've burned the midnight oil tonight Fever and
La ten o'clock tip, right, that's tomorrow night. Is it
tomorrow night? Tomorrow night? So you burn them tomorrow night.
I will be in then on Thursday night as well,
when they're in Phoenix at ten o'clock. So it's West
Coast games man. I love that. I love the West
Coast games. Again, Fever and Action at LA Tomorrow night.
That is a ten o'clock tip locally. Eddie will have
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the pre postgame. John will be on the radio call
for it. When you look at it, John, as we
kind of head down towards the final stretch of the
season here, and I know, record wise, I mean you
talk about Minnesota, for example, who would you say, in
terms of the style of play or the personnel of play,
is the one that most gives Indiana fits despite what
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the records may indicate.
Speaker 3 (53:26):
It's a good question. I would say potentially.
Speaker 6 (53:31):
New York when they're healthy, and currently Brianna Stewart is
out for them right now. But New York is it
looks like the biggest juggernaut in the league, like they
probably I would say have the highest ceiling, even higher
than Minnesota, despite the fact that Minnesota is in first,
because New York just can be overwhelming. Especially they just
got Emma Misiman, who is a former Finals MVP and
(53:53):
All Star who had been out of the WNBA playing
over in Europe the last couple of years. She just
made her Liberty debut yesterday, and that's adding more size
to them, because I would say they're at least earlier
in the season, there were some situations or if teams
were playing two posts at the same time. And the thirdly,
team Atlanta is the one that comes to mind here
because they got Britney Grinder and Bree Jones. We had
(54:16):
multiple players there at six' five and. Taller The fever
don't necessarily have that kind of. Size but then Yet
New york And atlanta for that, matter they have some
some stop shooting guards as, Well Lake Sabrina yonescu in
the case Of New, york And Alicia gray For. Atlantis
so you, know there's a reason that those are some
of the winning teams in the.
Speaker 1 (54:35):
League fever again in action tomorrow, night taking ON. La
John nolan is the radio play by play. Voice all, Right,
john you're going to have presumably the afternoon free here IN.
LA i want to know What John nolan does in
a free afternoon IN, la especially if you've never been
TO la. Before.
Speaker 6 (54:51):
Yep so in the afternoon here there's the team ass,
practice so are optional shooting at least to checking that
out more so in the, Evening i'm looking to get
over To Dodger stadium AND i got to THE T
Mobile park to catch part of A mariners game a
couple of days ago and went to a minor league
baseball game In. Texas SO i am Just i'm just
(55:13):
being a baseball fan sick of here on this, trip
going to try to get to a game In phoenix as.
Speaker 1 (55:18):
Well here's my tip for. You if you go To Dodger.
Stadium you, ready, yes it is a stadium where the
views are so great that it doesn't really. MATTER i,
mean tickets are going to be expensive no matter where
you get, them but you absolutely need to do this
when you were In Dodger. Stadium it's a tip for
anybody that goes to a game At Dodger. Stadium take
(55:40):
the escalators or actually the escalators to the very top.
LEVEL i can't remember if it's escalators or. ELEVATORS i
think it's an. Escalator but you take it to the top,
level the top tier of the stadium behind home, plate
and you walk out and there is the Entire Chavez
Ravine stadium you know At Dodger stadium before, You but
(56:01):
turn around and walk away from the stadium Because Chavez
ravine is then directly behind, you and it is an
unbelievable view of Downtown Los angeles and all of the
canyons behind. You it is one of the most underrated
views of the area Of Los angeles that you can
see from right there At Dodger, stadium and it's right
(56:21):
behind home. Plate there's there's my tip for.
Speaker 3 (56:23):
YOU i appreciate.
Speaker 6 (56:25):
That, YEAH i probably try to get something in the upper,
deck but, yeah, No i'll have to make sure to do.
Speaker 1 (56:32):
That it's a great. Stadium and if you've been, there
if you have to get there, early don't worry about
it because there's a ton of. Sea there is literally
a ton of baseball history to walk around see check.
Out it is very, cool very very. Cool and The
Dodger dogs are, overrated but you got to get, one
so there you.
Speaker 3 (56:45):
Go, ah, okay all, right all, right. COOL i appreciate, It,
John i'll take it all right.
Speaker 1 (56:48):
Anytime John, nolan the radio play by play voice of
The Indiana. Fever
The Colts have announced their first Now I have to
say this, of course, unofficial depth chart of the preseason.
No real surprise except for that at the quarterback position.
It simply says Daniel Jones or Anthony Richardson a couple
of other spots we can discuss joining us now to
(00:21):
do that and more. He is, of course, with CBS four,
WXA and Fox fifty nine, the dean of all riders
when it comes to the Colts, Mike Chappell joining us
on the show, Chap I'm sure you saw the depth
chart released by the Colts before we get to that.
I'm curious of this, do you and how many of
us do you need to help you move? Because I
(00:41):
saw that Jim Mersey's home has it is a pending
cash sale for over the asking price of twelve million.
My understanding is it's about twenty five percent more than
that that was offered in cash, and you move in.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
When well, I tried to low ball them, so you
know my five point five mill I was gonna I had.
I had large bills in the back of my car
that I was going to take there, and they said, hey, yeah,
right buddy.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Yeah, that's right right in a couple of coupons too.
You had coupons, right.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Yeah, I might have been able to rent the the
ice rink that I believe he's got, uh, or one
of the guest houses.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
Maybe I've heard the two guest houses are fabulous, you know,
in all honesty, Chap, what's that they are? You know?
It does make you curious. I think that the and
there's going to be you watch. I mean, there will
be all kinds of speculation and guessing games as to
who bought it until it's announced. I don't know that,
(01:48):
But I don't think we can rule out the possibility, Chap,
that that an out of market simply investor purchased it
just for the land itself, or to you know, to
to build two homes on there, or sell those again individually,
whatever it might be, right, I mean, there's any number
of factors that could go out.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
But they to think you would do that and tear
that place down. I understand what you're saying, But and again,
that's that's that's a world I am simply not familiar with.
I've got a rental property, We've got the wife and
her brother got two rental properties in betro We're trying
to sell and if anybody's interested, give me a call. Uh,
(02:27):
And it's is the land is important, that that's what's valuable,
not not the houses that are on it. Well, I
just can't see an investor thing, you know, I can
I can put like three properties there or three houses.
I just think that this is somebody that's got kind
of hate to say, too much money in their hands.
But maybe that's the case. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
I've heard, you know, some renovation. My understanding is there
are some renovations. I mean, like any any property. I
don't mean that a bad way at all, right, I
mean Jim Orsay owned it for what thirty years, right,
so you know. But then on top of that, I
don't think there I don't think. I don't even know
if there was an inspection, so I think it was.
You know, you hear people that blind purchase stuff like
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that just as an investment, so you know, we'll see.
But it is fascinating. And then of course everybody's, oh,
it's Bernard Ryman bought it, you know, Peyton Bonnett tear
it down, and you know, YadA YadA YadA. But all right,
let's get to this. Let me tell you the one
thing on the depth chart that, uh, I'm not gonna
say surprise me, but I thought was interesting, and that's
a tight end. The Colts website right now has for
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their depth chart at tight end title Warren. No surprise there,
mo Alei Cox, no surprise there, because he can do
some things that Warren. It's not that Warren can't do them,
but that you wouldn't ask Warre necessarily to do as much,
and that's being like, you know, run game blocker, et cetera.
I was a little intrigued by this, and I know
he's a good player, but Drew Ogletree one spot in
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front of Will Mallory. You know, I think Mallory has
had a really good camp. But do we read into
that in any way, shape or form. And how many
tight ends do they carry?
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Probably four? And I would I would guard against anybody
reading anything into the first unofficial depth chart because teams
have to do it, we pay attention to it. But
this isn't the first time the Colts had an or
I'm telling who it was last year. The year before,
we had a couple of oars. Whether they were at
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can't I can't remember what positions they were, but it's
an interesting piece. And again these are this is met
CONTI going in. I think that the coaches and hey,
we need a depth chart, and each position coach says okay,
hang on them and takes them, you know, thirty seconds
to jot down names. But it's a guideline, is all
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it is. I am with you. I The one guy
that I've noticed in camp that maybe people aren't paying
attention to is Will Mallory. I think he's got a
really good camp drew ography as well. But I think
they keep four tight ends because because when that's how
Shane's shan Stock and loves him some tight ends. He
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just hasn't had tight ends to really love the last,
you know, since since Jack Doyle left. But Tyler Warren's
been everything we anticipated. He dropped the ball the other day,
I'm thinking, what in the hell did I just see?
It was behind him and he got one hand on it,
and you expect him to make that catch because he's
made him so. And it was interesting that, for whatever
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you want to make of it, is Tanner Bordolini is
the starting center ahead of Danny Penri and they have
literally divvied up the snaps at center, as has Richardson
and Jones. But it's just it's a guideline and it
gives you a little bit of insight, but not a lot.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
You know, at the receiver position, Chap, Mike Chapel is
our guest, No real surprises at the receiver position, you know,
Pittman and then Ashton Jel Duelan behind him. Then on
the other side Alec with Ady Mitchell, who I think
kind of resembles Anthony Richardson in the fact that he's
made some good strides but then also taking a little
bit of a step back. What really I find bothers
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him is the receiver spot. You got Pierce Mitchell, then
DJ Montgomery, Blaine Taylor, and then land and Parker. So
my guy land In Parker just because he looks like
Jeff mccoley. That looks like he's got high odds stacked
against him, right, Chap.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
So so you take offense to that on the depth chart? Yeah?
Is that what you're saying?
Speaker 1 (06:29):
That's my guy Landon Parker is my guy?
Speaker 2 (06:32):
Do you take us? Hopefully you don't take offense where
I say, men, you need to get a license. It
is funny because Joel Erickson picks out a guy, uh
every camp and it was the linebacker at JK, I
think it is and we get on him about that,
and the guys had a pretty good camp. But no,
it is kind of cool to find because again, one
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or two of these guys are gonna make it. I
don't think receiver. They're going to probably keep six receivers
on the active roster and then they'll keep three practice
squad probably, so your guy probably has a shot there.
But it's a good thing that right now, Aston Dulan
is your five and Anthony Gould is your six, and
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that's a good that's a good problem, a good issue
to have to have players of who are both having
pretty good camps. At receiver, which which is a good
thing for Goold because he's been primarily a return guy
is playing really well given the chance on offense, so
against so many positions. I like, what's going on. Still
not crazy about linebacker, and all of a sudden they're
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they're their proven depth at cornerback is getting tested, yes,
by by hamstring injuries, and that's a little bit of
a concern.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
And let's let's piggyback off that chap. When you talk
about ham strings. That's a problematic area, right where like
sometimes guy that can linger for guys but typically speaking
or has there been any indication to this when you're
talking about Jalen Jones and Juju Brents both, Has there
been any hint at all or even based on precedent
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how much they would miss moving forward, only.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
That Shane Stocking said that that Jalen Joneses was more
I think his term was more severe. You never like
to hear the word severe come from a coach because
they don't like those words. And we didn't get a
day to day week to week here he's going to
miss some time. And again I I Jalen Jones needs
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work in this new system, but he's started gosh twenty
seven games the last two years, so they know what
they've got with him. Juju Brent's for Karnaut Loud. He
needs to he needs to stay on the field. And
here's a case where he didn't. You know, he was
made ava able to the media one day and then
the next day you didn't practice because of the hamstring.
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So I hate to see it. At some point, at
some point the team just says, I'm sorry, we can't
trust you to stay healthy. They're not there with Juju
Brents at all, but he and Daniel Scott, Jelanie Woods
guys that have been hurt. You know, I think, boy,
these guys have got something, but they can't stay healthy. Uh.
(09:18):
But cornerback, I think Jaylen Jones is gonna miss some time.
That's Chap speak, not I can speak. Uh, just because
of what coach said. And again, uh Mooney Ward missed
practice one day or two days and apparently got tighteness
in the leg, which that I assume that's a hamstringer
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or whatever. And I tell you these guys that are
that are vets that really anybody that has something, they
hold him out, whether it's the Forest Buckner one day
had a foot is shoes that held him out. Uh,
So they just they don't push it in training camp
in pre season, I think there's going to be a
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handful of veterans not play much in preseason defense. I'm saying,
even though this is a new defense that needed to
play together, the wards and maybe cam buying them and
the force buck different credit a loud. I know what
the Forest buck can do. I know what Gerver Stewart
can do. They need some snaps just because you don't
want their first significant work to be in the in
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the opener, but they will be limited. I think offensively
is a different matter entirely because of the quarterback. And
I heard you guys talking earlier about what they might do,
what they will do. But again, Kevin Boeller and I
talked about this, and I think that they need to
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have a quarterback decided after two games and then really
peel back the starter and not play much in the
third game. And Kevin thinks they just need to play,
which and he's probably he's probably right.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
Well, Jeb, you heard what I was saying in this.
I do think the starter is going to be Anthony
and I said when they signed him, I thought it
was gonna be Daniel Jones. I've I've flopped on that.
I will admit where I was wrong where I thought
that the yes, and I think it's going to be Richardson
and they're going to give him and and you know,
the sands are running through the hourglass here. But having
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said that to me, the one thing that I think
they would tell you is that they realized they aired
and handing him the keys too early, and so the
final yeah, and so Therefore, I think they are going
to take the competition as late into the equation as
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they can to continue to push him and make sure
that he does not And again, I want to be
very clear here, I'm not saying that Richardson is a
bad guy, that he has, you know, off field issues,
I'm not saying that. But in terms of his focus,
you want him to whatever they did to push him
so far has more off been shown that it is
working as opposed to not. And therefore you want to
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continue pushing him that direction for as long as you
possibly can to keep him focused. Would you agree with that?
Speaker 2 (12:13):
Boy? If I agree with that, then then then I'm
pointing out a rigison weakness and that he has to
be pushed to do his job. And that was the
problem the first two years is I guess in Layman's
term there was too much enabling going on.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
Right, That's right, right?
Speaker 2 (12:34):
Well, but god, you've got to be this is his
third year. You've got to be past that. You just
have to be that such a position coach is get
on him, and the courtate and get on him. But
my goodness, if they need to push him in the
third preseason game so that he doesn't have a lapse,
then you've got the wrong You've got the wrong guy.
You just do I think I think he needs to
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start the opener because they have simply got to find
out what they have. Can he stay healthy? Can he
do the job better? I was looking here. I actually
did some homework before before the show today, and in
eleven on eleven passing in campus nine practices, I've got
Richardson at fifty eight percent and Jones at roughly sixty
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seven sixty eight percent. I would take Richardson fifty eight
percent all day.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
I would agree that's not a big enough separation for
Jones to win that job.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
No, No, and Jones has been I think what we
thought decent arm strength, not great arm strength, more effective underneath.
He still holds the ball too long in my mind.
But Richardson just gives you the shock plays he does,
and he's been better on the underneath things. He's still gosh.
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I think it was Saturday they played red zone in
like the first section the first session. He throws an
interception in the end zone from like the five yard
by whatever it was. You can't do that, you can't
of all the things you can't do as the quarterback ees,
central pick sixes. You can't. You can't throw an interception
around the goal line. You just can't. I saw to
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Rick Venturia and he said, do you trust him? And
I said, yeah, no, I don't. Uh, just because of
the short sample size.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
I've got to go on.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
But my goodness, he's just his ceiling is so high.
But at some point again, he's got to do it.
He's got to stay on. He's got to stay on
the field. And so far, you know, knock on wood,
he's not missed time for anything, a sore shoulder and
all that. If I'm him and I've got a sore shoulder,
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I keep it to myself. I realize if you're a pitcher,
maybe you can't do that. But uh, I think that
part of it is he's past that because they've thrown
quite a bit. But he's just he's just looked better
I think overall with what he brings. And if he's
fifty eight percent and he gives you the shot plays
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and he gives you I don't know, sixty yards of
game rushing and he picks up third and seven with
his legs or whatever, now you got to cut down
on the whatever it was twelve interceptions or whatever it
was last year. You can't have that with only eight touchdowns.
But they can just do so much more with him,
and you need to find out he either stays healthy
(15:25):
or he doesn't. If he doesn't, you say, well, this
is who he is. You know, a guy that's missed
half of his games with injuries. And that's where you know, okay,
we can't rely, but you need to find out. You
don't find out by by starting the season with Jones,
who is going to give you a more of an
(15:45):
even you know, line on how he plays. But and
then what do you get with Richardson? You just don't know.
So to me, he's done nothing to lose the job.
I think he I thought I've always thought he had
the would have to really have an awful camp, just
an awful camp to not be the starter.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
And listen, and baseball, a tie goes to the runner.
In football, a tie goes to the incumbent.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
Right, Well, it's like you gotta knock out the champ.
And I think that sort of had to be what
what Jones? He either had to knock him out, which
he hasn't done, or Richardson had to play terrible, which
he hasn't done, which is encouraging. Had one bad day,
I think it was Saturday, was a bad day, a
not really good day in pads. So I think that's encouraging. Uh,
(16:34):
And how they're going to do it again? He stike
and told us that both guys were going to play
quite amount of a good amount in these first two games.
Howie does it will make a big deal whether it's
Jones and the opener in Baltimore and then the other
guy then Richardson in the second game, but they're both
going to play. And I think what's interesting is with
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the quarterbacks playing as much as they're going to play,
maybe I don't know, three quarters, I don't know. Do
you play your starting offensive line that long? You know
it's because because then you're exposing your other quarterback to
playing with guys who have had an uneven training camp,
although they'll be going against the other team's backups at
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some point, So really interesting. Again, I would hope that
I would think that games, how they do in games
will have carry more weight than eleven on eleven and
seven on seven and how they go in meeting rooms,
and I understand all that goes together but how they
actually play on Thursday night or Saturday night against the Packers.
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I just think that carries more weight and I'm curious.
I'm really curious how it goes. I've been encouraged by Richardson,
I really have been, but I just can't get those
first two years out of my head. I know, I
know that's my blind spot.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
I mean, there's a little PTSD the right of not
only from a consistency but from an availability standpoint. Mike Chappel,
our guest Chap I wanted to ask you this as well,
you know, a couple of years ago, and I'm not
saying it was the right narrative. Maybe it was too
trendy a thing to say, but we got into this
and I'm not saying you, but when the league started
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becoming really passer friendly, and they're throwing up Star Wars numbers,
and you know, Goff and Mahomes are having games where
it's going into the fifties, and people started saying, well,
the running backs become the fungible position. That's the position
that you can just kind of get a guy off
the street in week eight and it gives you a
good game. Whatever else. Maybe we started to see the
(18:40):
value at the running back position again in the National
Football League. But I'm curious of this if you agree
or disagree, or can expand on it. In today's NFL.
Defensively speaking, are we entering into an arena now where
defensive backfield is hyper important, pass rush is important, and
thus your linebacker corps is the one that can be
(19:03):
for you the most pedestrian.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
Probably, although you need to have you know, you give
me a shackle letter, you know when in the second
and third year, even rookie, I'd take that on a heartbeat.
Middle linebacker tackles maybe maybe. Now if you're Zaire and
he you know, he had the second team off pro
less here were gonna get three and a half sacks
and eleven tackles for loss and a couple of interceptions,
(19:27):
that's different. Just don't give me tackles because those can
be you know, how many taxes were down the field. Whatever.
But yeah, you better have gosh, you better have four
corners that you trust. You better have three safeties that
you trust, because that's what teams are going to. Kennymore
Holy Smokes, his value as a nickel is off the charts.
(19:50):
They think this the justin Wally kid can can kind
of be that list that side.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
Wally's been impressive though, and they made no bonds bones
about the fact they' been impressed.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
To them, right right, But but again, and then when
you have Mooney Ward, who can be that shutdown guy.
You know, think back to Vonte Davis, the late Vonte Davis.
He was pretty good, a couple of Pro Bowls, uh,
and the one year with Stefan Gilmour. They've not had
that guy often enough. And they again the injuries injuries
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are a little bit of concerned because all of a sudden,
guys Sam Oomack, who's like your good fifth guy, as
that he's playing more.
Speaker 4 (20:30):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
But again it's early preseason and except for the running
back yesterday in Jalen Jones, they've really avoided the major injuries.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
Knock on wood, I.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
Know, but so so Yeah, it's with the running backs.
I think I've always valued Jonathan Taylor. Now I I
don't know how long I would value him, you know,
five years, six years, because there there is an expiration.
They one running backs, although Derrick Henry would tell you
to go fly a kite because there hasn't been one
(21:05):
on him. He's an alien like Jerry Rice. But I
think the Colts have absolutely wasted two outstanding years by
Jonathan Tavor. It still boggles my mind that he rushes
for eighteen hundred yards and you don't make the playoffs.
But they're gonna they're gonna maximize his talents and they should.
I may have mentioned to you I was shocked when
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someone posted a note that he's average eighty nine yards
in his career. That's the highest active yards per game
in the NFL, higher than Derrick Henry. So it just
shows you. Yes, he dropped the freaking football at Denver,
which killed him, but he's a quality player and they're
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gonna they're gonna lean on him a ton. I hope
he stays healthy enough. I like DJ Giddens, the rookie.
He's looked pretty good. So but yeah, you're right, it
sort of has swung. Uh, it's to where you're you're
valuing pass rush. You're always going to value that, and
they've had they had a really good pass rush the
last week or so. Now is that, you know, good
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for them, or you know, offensive line pick up your game.
Lat has had a great camp, absolutely great camp, and
they need him to be the guy, not just a guy.
They need him to be kind of like the tip
of the spear. And then all of a sudden, you're
okay with Quitty Pei get you eight or nine sacks,
and Buckner give me his He'll he'll give you eight
(22:31):
sacks as long as he stays healthy, because that's that's
who he is. And get something from kom so it.
But but lots and he needs to be the guy,
and he's he's dominated training camp. He just has but
pass rush, cover quarterback and running back and then got
the receivers are just going off the charts as far
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as pay so. But yeah, it has swung in a
little bit to where we're not seeing four hundred yard
passing games like we did back in the day. Has
swung a little bit to more of a can control
passing game. So you need to have corners. You need
to have to where you're gonna play maybe two linebackers
on an extra dB most of the time.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
Mike Chapels CBS four wxin Fox fifty nine where you
see his coverage and of course Colt's getting set Thursday,
preseason game number one against the Baltimore Ravens, chap appreciated
as always, talked to you soon, all.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
Right, talk cat you next week. You guys be well.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
I appreciate it. Mike Chapel joining us, joining us now,
and I'm sure thrilled to be doing so, Eddie, I
believe you have the proper introduction for him, correct.
Speaker 4 (23:37):
Speaking of lost and clueless. So we bring on Kyle
Nrip from the NSTR.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
Yeah, he joined us now in the guest line, Indianapolis
star Kyle Neddrip, of course, the high school writer for
football basketball primarily joining US now. And I want to
begin with that, Kyle. It is man, it happens earlier
and earlier, right, But basically high school football season is
upon us.
Speaker 4 (23:58):
Yeah, the officials Star practices today, which is sort of
a unofficial official I would say, anymore, because most teams
are practicing, you know. There all teams are able to
under the rules now able to practice and do things
throughout the spring and summer. So it's sort of more
of a symbolic start, I would say, But it is
the start, and you know, teams are you know, unable
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to you know, you can't have ads on today tomorrow,
but then get after it on Wednesday and then we'll
be here basically next a week from Friday with the
scrimmages and then the following week with games.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
So yeah, it is.
Speaker 4 (24:33):
It's definitely. Uh, it's here, and it's always fun because
you know, the start of school kind of you know,
coincides with football and kind of signifies the new year.
And I always look forward to that kind of restart,
you know, not only the football season, but you know,
the school year for all these kids going back to school.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
Now, by the way, Kyle, before we get into that,
I'll let you enter the same arena that Mike Chappa
was just in because there's going to be all kinds
of speculation because Jim Mr say his home has a
pending sale, a cash sale at over asking price. Do
you want to wager on who it's going to be?
Speaker 4 (25:08):
Oh? Boy, it's not Chap, is it.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
That's right? He got out of the print side of things,
got into the TV money and now all of a sudden,
you know, let's go right.
Speaker 4 (25:19):
The money rolls in rum gosh. I I I would, man,
I would venture somebody in the in the sports or maybe,
but but yeah, I don't even know. I don't even
know where to start.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
I think clubhouse leader on this is outside market investor,
blind purchase investor.
Speaker 4 (25:41):
Yeah, that could be man that speaking of that, the
full court indoor basketball court was, Man, how how awesome
was that? It's like, man, they should they should actually
play high school games in there.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
That's how about the hockey?
Speaker 4 (25:53):
It's cool that place was Yeah exactly, I mean, man,
my goodness, what a what a what a life? You know,
that's that's super cool. Yeah, I don't even know, I
don't even know where to start.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
But you know, Tyrese Haliburtons again, I'm going to best.
I'm going to guess out of country investor. That is
strictly a guess and probably a dumb one, Kyle, when
it comes to and I know you have your article
up right now. You know eight things we're looking for
here in terms of high school football for the year.
And it is early, but practice getting underway today. From
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an official standpoint, aside from the the obvious power hitters
that we talk about every year, is there a school
or a team that it looks like this year you
are intrigued by because they could make a real jump
that maybe in the normal season we don't talk a
lot about.
Speaker 4 (26:42):
Yeah, I mean, you're probably talking more six s a
you know, as we get started here. But I would say,
you know, from a standpoint of a team that you
know has been a little bit off the radar but
has been building, I would say, and I'm not saying
they're state title contenders necessarily, but maybe could be. Is
probably Pike. You know, they're a team that has been
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you know, on the rise here these last couple of
years under Mike Broward, who uh you know came from
Fort Wayne and and but it is really from here,
has a really unique backstory by the way, but he
you know, he's kind of got that program going in
the right direction. They were five and five last year
and and sort of a slow build from you know,
one win to I believe they had three the next
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year and then five last year and have started to
you know, get some continuity. I saw them play Fishers
last year and beat them in a really good game
early in the year. But uh, you know, they still
have a I would say to be a state contender.
And six they just really tough. I'm not sure if
they're that uh you know, to that level just quite yet,
but but maybe getting there closer to that one team
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that we do talk a lot about and they were
having the past. Who maybe fits this category is Carmel,
which h you know, they've kind of been a little
bit down these last couple of years. They were three
and seven last year, and and but have Kevin right
back as coach, and after a decade of sort of
being out of the state.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
Or out at least out of the high school.
Speaker 4 (28:09):
Football in the state, I really think he's going to
get that program going and he just doesn't lose, you know,
so you kind of assume they're going to be and
they do have a lot of talent, so you know,
I know, Carmel's not necessarily an upset pick by any means,
but but maybe considering the you know that they have
only had three wins, you know, last year, and then
we're five and five the year before that, there there
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may be someone who fits that you know distinction a
little bit. But I think they're going to be. We'll
find out early in the season because they play Fishers
in Westfield right off the bat, so you know, we'll
kind of see where they're at. But I would say
they might fit that, you know, kind of that sleeper
as much as you can put Carmel as a sleeper
in any sport, but they might fit that category.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
Right now, Kyle, when you look at your time in
covering high school sports in Indiana, this is season number
what for you?
Speaker 4 (29:00):
It's eighteen?
Speaker 1 (29:00):
Okay. I was going to say, yes, seventeen. Yeah, so
eighteen right, so in the time that you've done it.
And this is kind of a maybe this isn't getting
into the weeds question, but I am curious. The rules
of enrollment in Indiana high schools are different than they
were traditionally thirty years ago of you know, you live
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in this area or this township, you go to this school,
or you go to a private school kind of end
of story. Now, with the ability to go to you know,
with all of the charters, or the ability to you know,
with select school, to go to a different township than
where you live, et cetera, has it made consistency of
high school athletics harder to predict in the And I
(29:42):
know that they have transfer rules with the ISSA, and
the ISSA does the best they can to try to
preserve all of that, But just how big a variable
or challenge has that been versus say, fifteen years ago.
Speaker 4 (29:55):
Yeah, and especially now you know with the you know,
the change that was made with the first time transfer rule,
you know, and well that will have to play itself
out and you know, we don't have any data on
that just yet, you know, but you know, some schools
are and I think more and more schools now definitely
are you know, open enrollment. Some schools even now though,
are still you know, they don't take kids from out
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of the out of the district, you know, so I
think that will you know, more and more and more
schools are are are the other way now where they
do take and now that you can go out of district,
it's it's I think advisable that you probably should, you know,
allow kids to come in if you have room for them, obviously.
But yeah, I mean, I think there's just it's a
(30:37):
little bit more and it's always in this area, to
be honest. It's it's always been a little bit more
fluid as far as kids moving around and going, whether
they're actually physically moving or you know, switching schools. It's
always been, I think in Central Indiana and Indianapolis especially
a little bit more of a transient situation, you know,
(30:57):
And I think it's maybe become a little bit more
all over this day now. Uh, but it's you know,
I think there are kids definitely who you know, are
in a situation, especially now where you can transfer, get
a first time transfer. You know, you're you're going to
see more of that where hey, I may not be
playing at this school, I'm going to go uh over
here and where I can play. And that may be
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more of the transfers that you see rather than the
rather than the huge names, uh, you know, the kids
who are big names transferring and maybe more of that
uh in the future, you know, based on this rule.
What this rule is, I don't know. You know, I
still think in football, though, it's it's so hard to
you know, like what Pike is doing or other schools
have done with with you know, trying to get your
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your program on the map. It's just it's just really
hard when you're battling those year in and year at
powerhouses that are always good because football is a numbers
game obviously, and you know, kids want to go to
those schools or be involved in those schools that that
have had the history and have the tradition, and you know,
you're kind of fighting an uphill battle and football a
lot of times because it is such a such a
numbers game and and that sort of thing. But so
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it's a little bit easier I think at football maybe
than other sports to predict, you know, who will be good.
That said, though, six A is always hard because it's
like it kind of changes hands all the time. It's
it's really hard to win back to back championships, and
you know, there's just so much quality in six A round,
especially around here. It just kind of it's not a
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big group of schools that it changes hands from, but
it's they definitely battle each other for that top spot.
And that's what makes it so fun and so good
is just the competition at the top of that class.
And I think we'll see that again this year. It's
just not a lot that separates that that top team
from the rest.
Speaker 1 (32:43):
Kyle when you look Kyle Needrip is our guest from
the Indianapolis Star. You know, part of your I'm going
to say offseason in air quotes, but between you know,
the basketball and football seasons that are your primary beat.
You did a really interesting series here lost Indiana and
going around and seeing just some of the old historic gems.
(33:04):
Which one is the one that most awed you when
you walked in.
Speaker 4 (33:10):
I really like most of these, I've been to probably
all of them. We did ten of them, so we're
at number eight right now, so we have two more
to go. You know, I tried to pick out I
did a book many years ago on that included a
lot of these gym. I think probably all of them
but one were in the book originally. So most of these
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I've been in before. But I would say, you know,
the Jasper, the caveo'nil gym, just because they've done so
much work to it, the volunteer work, and you know,
they that gym was sort of on its last legs
it appeared, and then it was actually needed once they
had some a storm that basically you know, they couldn't
use the Jasper gym that they'd built, so they moved
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the games back there. This has been about ten or
twelve years ago, and actually used it, you know, for
a full season as their home gym again. And now
it's part of their you know community again. It's it's
used by different teams, so that one's really cool, and
it sort of incorporates, you know, some of the old
you know, they have the old green bleachers about a
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row of them anyway, that are still in there that
you can you can see they have a lot of
the newspaper articles framed up on the walls, you know,
so they've done a good job of sort of incorporating
the old with the new in that one as much
as you can with an old gym. But probably my
favorite Economy, which is in Wayne County, and it's it's
a little town that's barely a dot on the map,
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but they have a wood frame white it looks like
a barn, you know, if you're driving on the highway
there and happened to drive by it. But it is
so small, basically, you know. And the cool thing about
what we're able to do is is coordinate to interview
people in the gym as they're sitting there on the court.
And you know, there was probably four or five people
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who you know, were crying when we talked to them
about these places, and it was and that was you know,
just really neat to kind of invoke that emotion of
being back in those places. And that happened at Economy
with a couple of people we talked to. But you know,
that's just you walk in there and it's and I
walked in there probably almost twenty years ago, now for
the first time, and there was a pickup game going
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on when I went in there, and I couldn't believe
it that they played high school basketball there. It was
just so so small. The out of bounds lines are
the are the walls at the end, one wall at
the end of the court. It's just so tiny. So
you know, so that one's really special to me, unique
to me, and you know, I really enjoy that one.
But you know, it's it's it's really all of them.
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The ver Sales Gym, the Tyson Auditorium that was in
today's was today's edition. You know, that one's got a
lot of history from the Island team playing there in
their home games in fifty three fifty four because their
own gym was too small, So that one's really neat
as well. So I would I would, you know, one
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of those Versailles Economy Jasper. Those were all really really
fun ones to go to. But they're all special, they're
all you know, I've enjoyed just hearing the memories of
all of the people we've talked to and just get
getting in those places again. Was just a lot of fun.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
Economy, just to the northeast of Hagerstown, and just kind
of northwest of Richmond, Indiana is where that small town is. Kyle,
appreciate it as always look forward to talking to you
over the course of the season, all right. And by
the way, if it makes you feel any better, three
fifths of the people that I interview also end up crying.
So I mean that's you know what I mean, that's
we got that in common exactly. Well.
Speaker 4 (36:39):
I appreciate Jake anytime. Appreciate you having me on.
Speaker 1 (36:42):
I appreciate it. Kyle Needrip joining us from the Indianapolis Star.
Speaker 5 (36:47):
Alia practices her forum A bounce, the free throw too
strong rebound. Seattle just don't foul, they don't.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
Get a shot off.
Speaker 6 (36:54):
Man.
Speaker 1 (36:55):
That does it.
Speaker 5 (36:56):
Final score Fever seventy eight Storm, and now you know
the Fever have won five in a row, extending their
longest winning streak of this season, and Indiana moves past
Seattle in the standings.
Speaker 1 (37:11):
John Nolan on the call last night, technically yesterday late afternoon,
Fever winning in Seattle over the Storm. And each time
that Seattle, in fact, did try to call it a comeback,
the Fever would weather the storm. See what I did there,
But it was solid and I thought in listening to
the game, Thank you Eddie and listening to the game.
(37:34):
The one thing that you and I listened to John
for the better part of the second half as I
was out running Erond's yesterday and John, one of the
things that really jumped out at me, And this is
what I really like about this team is the fact
that they are now getting it from multiple areas, and
by that I mean different players on different nights. I
thought last night on Natasha Howard was fantastic, and each
(37:56):
time they needed a basket, seemingly she is the one
that they went to, and that balance is making them
very dangerous. You agree with that statement, and thanks for
joining us.
Speaker 6 (38:08):
Hey, Jake, thanks for having me on, Thanks for listening yesterday.
One hundred percent agree. And I know you had Tat
Boyle and TV Voice of the Fever on last week,
and you know, he made a comment bringing up, you know,
sort of parallel to what we saw from the great
Pacers run this past season, and he was talking a
bit about how the placer said whether the injuries in
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the first half of the season and then got it going.
And you know, another thing that really does give you
those Pacers vibes here is what the Fever are doing
right now is that you don't really know who it
is it's going to step up and have the big game.
So how about this last Sunday at Chicago, part of
this five game winning streak for the Fever. Unbelievably, Tosh
Howers didn't score, didn't even have a rebound. He wound
(38:51):
up not playing too much. That was a game when
the rookie kk Timpson came off the bench and had
the best game so far of her career.
Speaker 3 (38:58):
So Tosh great teammate.
Speaker 6 (38:59):
I think she had to play on social media afterwards
about how, hey, this is the safe a team where
you know, we're happy for each other. So one night
it's going to be somebody's you know, time to step up.
Another time it's going to be somebody else's. So yes
yesterday Tash at Seattle twenty one point five five assists too,
And as we talk about how it's truly a team
right now, especially with we went out of the lineup,
(39:22):
being how you don't know who really is going to
have a great game, because yesterday was an offshooting performance
for Kelsey Mitchell. But you know, one thing that really
just epitomizes that team effort. Here is the assist rate.
They assisted on twenty seven of their thirty two made shots.
That's more than eighty percent of their baskets. That is
a pretty insane assist percentage to have, and it really
just epitomizes what they're doing here.
Speaker 1 (39:44):
Do you look, John, if you look at the way
things have come together for them, are they schematically doing
anything differently in terms of and I know you have
to adjust when you have somebody that is as important
as Caitlin Clark not on the floor, but in terms
of their ball distribution or getting the ball to operating areas,
are they are they schematically doing things differently?
Speaker 6 (40:07):
Yeah, that's a good question, and so they certainly here
after their best of late Steph White puts it, as
you know, making the ball pop and the ball movement
die to side, and there are some possessions where it's
like no one even dribbles. I think schematically though, One
thing that from the first go around, when Caitlyn was
out and without Caitlin, all of a sudden, the pace
(40:28):
took a pretty dramatic dip. It was like a split
of when Caitlyn was playing, they had the fastest pace
in the league, and then when Caitlyn wasn't playing, they
were sorting the bottom of the league.
Speaker 3 (40:37):
In case now you really do have to.
Speaker 6 (40:39):
Give a lot of flowers to Airy McDonald's, who is
as quick as anyone up there with Kelsey and Caitlin
and so gematically they haven't slowed down their pace since
they now have gotten Airy fluid here and you know,
on this rest of the season contract. So schematically it's
not night and day different. You know, they're able to
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have Aleiah Boston now as a big facilitator. I mean
when you look at the individual assists yesterday, McDonald had nine,
mentioned Howard had five, Mitchell had five, you know, Leah
multiple assists to so stematically, it hasn't had to be
a great change now if they've had Aery McDonald's holding
the tide at point guard.
Speaker 1 (41:20):
You know, I typically John, and I'm curious if you've
ever realized that you're in this fraternity. I don't typically
trust people with two first names. You're a guy with
two first names. Do you think of that as Nolan
not a common enough first name?
Speaker 6 (41:32):
Yeah, obviously here as we talk on sports radio, Nolan Ryan,
you know, one of the most iconic fatuers of all time.
Speaker 3 (41:38):
But I don't feel like I run into a lot
and Nolan.
Speaker 1 (41:41):
I trust Nolan Ryan. And that's a guy with two
first names. Interestingly enough, But so.
Speaker 3 (41:46):
My basketball is like forty five miles an hour.
Speaker 1 (41:49):
Here's I'm coming up with a new rule on this, Okay.
In order to be somebody that is categorized as a
guy with two first names, the last name has to
be the more common first name of the two. So
Nolan Ryan accounts because Ryan is more common than Nolan. Right, yes,
(42:09):
but Nolan's not more common than John. So I think
you're safe.
Speaker 3 (42:13):
I am safe or not?
Speaker 1 (42:15):
No, I think you're safe.
Speaker 6 (42:16):
Okay, Yes, still morning hours out on the West coast.
Brand's not fully firing here yet all or maybe you
can debate ever, but yeah, I'll take word.
Speaker 1 (42:28):
For it here technically speaking, Eddie Garrison, guy with two
first names, don't trust him at all? Right, isn't that right,
my Garrison?
Speaker 5 (42:34):
Car?
Speaker 1 (42:35):
You know, I'm just saying for what it's worth. John,
what does happen when when Caitlin Clark comes back. Look,
she's a great player, I get it. I mean there
is not a world out there where you would not
want her on the floor. But at the same time,
they are playing so well right now, and how much
of that is out of necessity of having to distribute,
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having to balance without her out there, And how intriguing
is it going to be when you have to not
have to but when you then bring her and acclimate
her back in.
Speaker 6 (43:08):
Yeah, I think the perspective to probably have right now
is that it's awesome to see what the team has
been able to accomplish here without Caitlin, a five game
winning streak for the first time in a decade, and so.
Speaker 3 (43:18):
They're showing that clearly here.
Speaker 6 (43:20):
Even unfortunately without Caitlin, they're a playoff team and for
that matter, rising up in the standings, currently in fifth
and only a half game out of fourth, and shoot
just two games out of the two seeds as it
currently stands in the WNBA. But I think the perspective
to have is that with Caitlin coming back, figure scrossed.
I mean, it seems like she's on track to you
(43:42):
later this month, you know, all of a sudden, now
the team would have the ceiling of perhaps being a
title contender to get Minnesota links. Right now, they're on
another level from everyone else.
Speaker 3 (43:52):
In the league.
Speaker 6 (43:53):
Even though the Fever did beat them and the Commissioner's
Cup Championship game without Caitlin. But I think the perspective
is that now with Caitlyn's back to if she's gonna
have less pressure on her, you.
Speaker 3 (44:01):
Know, over the course of.
Speaker 6 (44:02):
Her career, whether it was at Iowa or last year
as a rookie, and she's kind of felt probably like
she needs to do more than typical. Right now, I
think you know, she's able to witness, you know, the
strength of everybody else and you know, perhaps can be
even more of a facilitator than she already was. I mean,
she was already sex in the league and assists per game,
but you know, recognizing that she's not going to really
(44:23):
need to be forcing things.
Speaker 1 (44:26):
John Nolan is our guest radio play by play voice
of the Indiana Fever Fever winning last night in Seattle, Eddie,
what tide did that game end? Oh? For five? I
keep saying last night. I mean it was technically late afternoon,
right afternoon game. John. It was loud in that joint
man like Seattle, And I know that Seattle has been,
(44:48):
you know, a really good location for the w but
you mentioned that the I think you said that the
upper levels were only sixty percent full, but even still
at one point, I mean it got raucous in that
place in the late third.
Speaker 6 (45:00):
Yeah, it really was a tremendous environment. And while it
wasn't a sellout, they still did have over sixteen thousand fans.
And credit to the fans in Seattle, where they're tied
for having one of the most titles in WNBI history,
So they've got a rich tradition, they have their own fans,
and of course it's been fun most road games this
year for the Fever. We joke about how it feels
(45:21):
like a home game, and while there were lots of fans,
they're wearing Fever retire. Yesterday, I mean I think it
was a pro Seattle crab. You could you could hear that, right, Yeah,
I mean that also makes yesterday's victory for the Fever
even more impressive because Seattle made some runs in the
second half and you know, got within a point there
down the stretch, had chances to tie in the game,
(45:42):
and well, as.
Speaker 3 (45:43):
You put it, the Fever weather that's the worm Listen.
Speaker 1 (45:48):
I was pretty proud of that. When I came up
with that, that was off top of my tad too, John,
you know what I mean?
Speaker 6 (45:51):
Like Heay, all right, Jake, we're friends. Now about how
about a text here when you get that one, you know,
during the game yesterday, so I could drop that in.
Speaker 1 (46:00):
Listen, hardly original, I realize, right, I mean, I will
admit that. By the way, aside from obviously within your
responsibilities WNBA wise, how many times have you previously been
to or been able to experience Seattle.
Speaker 6 (46:15):
Yeah, I'd never been to Seattle until the two trips
here for the Fever this season and now coming to
you from LA, where I'm also visiting for the first time.
Speaker 1 (46:25):
Really, never been to La before.
Speaker 3 (46:27):
Never been to La.
Speaker 6 (46:28):
I've been to California, San Francisco, San Diego, San Jose,
but first time here.
Speaker 1 (46:33):
Okay, I'm going to ask you John, before we get
back to the Fever. I'm going to ask you a
Jake query La question, and I want you to answer
it with all honesty. Okay, oh boy, Okay, after going
and seeing Oasis in Manchester and like still reliving it
because they were two just unbelievable shows and they are
going to be playing in early September at the Rose Bowl. Okay,
(46:56):
So because of just the you know the beauty of
past Dina, the Rose bulletself iconic venue. I just decided,
you know what, I'm gonna do it, So I bought
a ticket by myself. Okay, Shannon didn't want to go,
So I bought a ticket by myself to go by
myself to fly to LA buy my solo one ticket
to go to the show. And when I get out
there on Saturday morning, I'm going to fulfill my quest
(47:19):
of going and finding the spawn Ranch where the Manson
family lived in the old western movie ranch set where
they all lived during the the Manson Murders, where the
family was living before they went to Barker Ranch. And
then I might try to find Barker Ranch as well.
Which of those two aspects, me going solo or me
seeking out spawning Barker Ranch is more bizarre?
Speaker 3 (47:40):
Well, okay, yeah, you took me on a ride here.
I was thinking, like, wow, this is so beautiful.
Speaker 6 (47:44):
You're gonna be able to experience oasis.
Speaker 3 (47:46):
Yeah, picturesque steady now is that?
Speaker 6 (47:49):
And I've got your nightmares and the Manson family rolling
through my head. So I think it's really cool, even
if it's a solo trip. I think you right, those
are eight it's a concert, especially from Ryford, or really
such a I don't know, for lack of a better word,
magical kind of experience. Even though you're there by yourself,
you're going to be with so many people who are
just like a good piece of humanity that's not really
(48:12):
there by yourself.
Speaker 1 (48:12):
I probably should not tell any of them that previously
in the day I went and found the Spawn and.
Speaker 6 (48:17):
Barbara say that would probably be the only situation that
arises where you could be isolated out of people.
Speaker 1 (48:24):
Are Are you an Oasis fan?
Speaker 6 (48:27):
I can't claim to be a huge Oasis fan, maybe
a little bit like Steph White in your conversation with
her a week or two ago, where I have an appreciation,
but I do have to like your like yourself. I
have some other friends who are huge fans, friendly with
a guy.
Speaker 3 (48:41):
Who's actually a sports talk radio host as well, who.
Speaker 6 (48:43):
Similarly went over there to uh across the Pond to
see a show, and I thought he had a great
recap of it and thought it was like a life
changing experience faith and just like restoring faith in humanity.
Speaker 3 (48:56):
The play by play.
Speaker 6 (48:57):
Guy for the Baltimore Orioles on TV, Kevin brand. I
think his bio here on Twitter and that he is
the world's biggest Oasis fan. He's a friend of mine,
So I, yes, you know, I've got some time here
on these road trips.
Speaker 3 (49:08):
I got to start. I gotta look in this more Oasis.
Speaker 1 (49:11):
I'm telling you, I'll send you a playlist. They're fabulous,
They're absolutely fabulous. What do we guestimate is the return
date for Caitlin Clark? And I want to be clear,
John Nolan, the radio play by play voice, I'm not
putting you in the position here of speaking for the franchise.
This is strictly prognostication. But when you look at the schedule,
Eddie and I have touched in the fact that you know,
(49:32):
she's like, look, we've got to get her acclimated to
practices before we then go in the game situation. Based
on that, it would seem to me like the seventeenth,
when they have five days to prepare, would be a
kind of a nice soft landing spot. But is that
stretching it too far?
Speaker 3 (49:50):
Right?
Speaker 6 (49:50):
So, actually, I think they have a game on the
seventeenth on the road, and then there's the five days
off of the twenty second.
Speaker 1 (49:55):
Okay, So the twenty second winks.
Speaker 6 (49:57):
Yeah, yeah, So yeah, think what you're saying there is
a logical I think there's been some reporting like yesterday
in Seattle, Caitlin had an individual workout since there wasn't
a team practice before that afternoon game. So I think,
you know, that sort of seems to be a stepping stone.
Speaker 3 (50:13):
So like the.
Speaker 6 (50:14):
Individual workouts and then trying to be reintegrated into the
team workouts, you know, as long as she's feeling well.
Speaker 3 (50:20):
So I think you're I here.
Speaker 6 (50:23):
I am with you on on the logic and reason.
And I guess one other factor to consider now though,
is like they definitely don't need a rusher, right, I
mean the team here.
Speaker 3 (50:31):
Is one five in a row.
Speaker 1 (50:34):
If that plays into it, right.
Speaker 6 (50:36):
Right, I think they already were at a position where
you know, they got to have the long term vision
and you know, not rush at all regardless, but it
certainly helps, right Uh. Now you don't have to have
any kind of you know, outside influence of feeling. You're like,
let's say, all of a sudden, this was going south
the other way and now you're fighting just to make
the playoffs. Yeah, it's going to be kind of human
(50:56):
nature for everyone to maybe uh feel some pressure, but
as stands now, that would not.
Speaker 3 (51:01):
Be the case.
Speaker 1 (51:02):
You know, their continued streak here with Aliah Boston of
double doubles. I think she had sixteen to twelve last night.
She has been a model of consistency for the fever,
John Nolan. Are they prioritizing feeding Aliah Boston or is
Aliah Boston getting her points and scheming within the offense
almost as a byproduct of other stuff going on around her?
Speaker 3 (51:26):
Right? Yeah, I think you hit on it there.
Speaker 6 (51:28):
They certainly there. They're not forcing the ball to anyone,
and a game the game, you're going to see different,
you know, just to th off the personnel that the
other team had. I think you were talking about this
with Steph recently, right, how Like the WNBA has evolved,
and so game the game you're you're looking at unique
matchups and unique styles, and so I think this team
(51:50):
just done a good job shown that they can adapt.
I mean, yesterday was a grinded out game in the seventies.
Going back one of their wins here in this streak
last week at home against Phoenix, one of the highest
scoring the franchise history. Both teams, uh clips thing one
hundred points, So you know, I think they're able to uh,
you know that one where they probably would have liked
to have played better defense there. They don't necessarily want
(52:11):
to be giving up one hundred plots, but you know,
showing that they can adapt. And you have a player
like a Leah who even over the course of a game,
in that one against Phoenix, she was held in check
for a few quarters and then boom erupted in the fourth. So, uh,
they're gonna just relax. Of a better description, maybe you're
just like go with the flow with whoever's you know,
(52:31):
whoever's night or whoever's quarter, even based off what they're
what they're seeing from the defense they're taking advantage of.
Speaker 1 (52:37):
And you you've burned the midnight oil tonight Fever and
La ten o'clock tip, right, that's tomorrow night. Is it
tomorrow night? Tomorrow night? So you burn them tomorrow night.
I will be in then on Thursday night as well,
when they're in Phoenix at ten o'clock. So it's West
Coast games man. I love that. I love the West
Coast games. Again, Fever and Action at LA Tomorrow night.
That is a ten o'clock tip locally. Eddie will have
(52:59):
the pre postgame. John will be on the radio call
for it. When you look at it, John, as we
kind of head down towards the final stretch of the
season here, and I know, record wise, I mean you
talk about Minnesota, for example, who would you say, in
terms of the style of play or the personnel of play,
is the one that most gives Indiana fits despite what
(53:23):
the records may indicate.
Speaker 3 (53:26):
It's a good question. I would say potentially.
Speaker 6 (53:31):
New York when they're healthy, and currently Brianna Stewart is
out for them right now. But New York is it
looks like the biggest juggernaut in the league, like they
probably I would say have the highest ceiling, even higher
than Minnesota, despite the fact that Minnesota is in first,
because New York just can be overwhelming. Especially they just
got Emma Misiman, who is a former Finals MVP and
(53:53):
All Star who had been out of the WNBA playing
over in Europe the last couple of years. She just
made her Liberty debut yesterday, and that's adding more size
to them, because I would say they're at least earlier
in the season, there were some situations or if teams
were playing two posts at the same time. And the thirdly,
team Atlanta is the one that comes to mind here
because they got Britney Grinder and Bree Jones. We had
(54:16):
multiple players there at six' five and. Taller The fever
don't necessarily have that kind of. Size but then Yet
New york And atlanta for that, matter they have some
some stop shooting guards as, Well Lake Sabrina yonescu in
the case Of New, york And Alicia gray For. Atlantis
so you, know there's a reason that those are some
of the winning teams in the.
Speaker 1 (54:35):
League fever again in action tomorrow, night taking ON. La
John nolan is the radio play by play. Voice all, Right,
john you're going to have presumably the afternoon free here IN.
LA i want to know What John nolan does in
a free afternoon IN, la especially if you've never been
TO la. Before.
Speaker 6 (54:51):
Yep so in the afternoon here there's the team ass,
practice so are optional shooting at least to checking that
out more so in the, Evening i'm looking to get
over To Dodger stadium AND i got to THE T
Mobile park to catch part of A mariners game a
couple of days ago and went to a minor league
baseball game In. Texas SO i am Just i'm just
(55:13):
being a baseball fan sick of here on this, trip
going to try to get to a game In phoenix as.
Speaker 1 (55:18):
Well here's my tip for. You if you go To Dodger.
Stadium you, ready, yes it is a stadium where the
views are so great that it doesn't really. MATTER i,
mean tickets are going to be expensive no matter where
you get, them but you absolutely need to do this
when you were In Dodger. Stadium it's a tip for
anybody that goes to a game At Dodger. Stadium take
(55:40):
the escalators or actually the escalators to the very top.
LEVEL i can't remember if it's escalators or. ELEVATORS i
think it's an. Escalator but you take it to the top,
level the top tier of the stadium behind home, plate
and you walk out and there is the Entire Chavez
Ravine stadium you know At Dodger stadium before, You but
(56:01):
turn around and walk away from the stadium Because Chavez
ravine is then directly behind, you and it is an
unbelievable view of Downtown Los angeles and all of the
canyons behind. You it is one of the most underrated
views of the area Of Los angeles that you can
see from right there At Dodger, stadium and it's right
(56:21):
behind home. Plate there's there's my tip for.
Speaker 3 (56:23):
YOU i appreciate.
Speaker 6 (56:25):
That, YEAH i probably try to get something in the upper,
deck but, yeah, No i'll have to make sure to do.
Speaker 1 (56:32):
That it's a great. Stadium and if you've been, there
if you have to get there, early don't worry about
it because there's a ton of. Sea there is literally
a ton of baseball history to walk around see check.
Out it is very, cool very very. Cool and The
Dodger dogs are, overrated but you got to get, one
so there you.
Speaker 3 (56:45):
Go, ah, okay all, right all, right. COOL i appreciate, It,
John i'll take it all right.
Speaker 1 (56:48):
Anytime John, nolan the radio play by play voice of
The Indiana. Fever
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