September 12, 2025 • 50 mins
Today’s Best of Features:
(00:00-17:30) – The IndyStar’s Zach Osterman joins Jake Query to kick off the first hour of the show to preview tonight’s game for Indiana against Indiana State, explains how important it is for some of the backups to get significant reps during the first three cupcake games for IU, the comment made by Ohio State’s president about revenue sharing, and the future of a potential super league in college football.
(17:30-27:41) – Kyle Neddenriep from The IndyStar makes his weekly visit on Query & Company to preview tonight’s slate of high school football games across the state. He also comments on the MIC welcoming Center Grove and Carmel back into the conference yesterday and identifies a couple of games that features a team that could be in position to have a memorable season.
(27:41-50:44) – Former Purdue tight end Tim Stratton joins Query & Company to continue remembering the 2000 Purdue team that made the Rose Bowl with that group of Boilermakers being honored tomorrow against USC. He also shares what he saw last season from Tyler Warren in college, shares the story as to how he lost his helmet and was almost suspended because of it, his relationship with Joe Tiller, and his thoughts on what he has seen from Purdue thus far.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Joining us now on the guest line. He is, of course,
with the Indianapolis Star. He is our friend, Zach. Thank
you who joins us?
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Zach?
Speaker 1 (00:09):
Are you on your way down to Bloomington or are you
already there?
Speaker 2 (00:12):
I'm always here. I never leave.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
You know what, I don't know why I was thinking
you lived on the south side of Indianapolis. I didn't
realize that you live on the south side of Bloomington.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
Okay, that's cool, you south side?
Speaker 1 (00:25):
Do you live on the lake by the way, that's
the way south side?
Speaker 4 (00:28):
Right, No, I don't go quite that far south, but
we are firmly in that direction.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
All right, fair enough, let's begin with this this game.
And I know it sounds crazy because of the year
that Indiana had last year and the fact that they
seemingly still have their foot on the accelerator although key
faces in new key areas or new faces in key areas.
So let's begin with this. Do we know more about
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Indiana or Indiana State in this game?
Speaker 4 (00:58):
I mean, I think for our purposes, I think we
probably know more about Indiana. But I think we always
recognize that. I mean, like I've been calling this three
game starts to preseason basically all year and that this
was it was always going to feel a little bit
like that, where you felt like you could maybe clean
certain things. You wanted to see certain relationships forming. You
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wanted to know is the improvement here real? And they
figure out the defensive line rotation, what do they look
like in the you know, the secondary has been remade,
all this kind of stuff. But we all knew kind
of like an NFL preseason, you're not going to come
out of it just sort of being able to say,
my mind has been completely made up about what this
team is and what it's capable of. That's only going
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to happen in the games that really matter. I understand
college is a little different. These games matter. If Indiana
were to lose tonight, you know, that would have all
kinds of ramifications over the Hoosiers, you know, playoff candidacy
and whatever. It's It's not like losing an NFL preseason
game in terms of being risk free, but I think
it is in terms of just sort of judging the
why trajectory of the season.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Frankly, do you with Indiana, Zach and I was talking
about this earlier. When you have these three games, and
I mean This is no disrespect to the opponents, but
Kurt Signetti has been so outspoken about, you know, just
the way that they have managed the scheduling. Is there
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an extent to these games where it actually is about
more your depth than it is rhythm of your starters
and learning your depth and getting repetition of your depth
and making sure that you are kind of getting all
bases covered. Is there any aspect of that in these
three games.
Speaker 4 (02:46):
I think it's personally a split of both. I mean,
Signetti said himself the reason that he left his starters
in longer than probably we expected him too against Kenneso
State was because he said, a lot of these guys
haven't Maybe they've played a lot of football, but they
haven't a lot of football together. We need these snaps,
we need this rhythm. On the other hand, I think
a game like tonight, and I've written this this week,
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I think the flip side to that is this is
your last meaningful chance, assuming you can get to it,
and you want to be respectful of Indiana State, but
assuming Indiana can get to a place where it's comfortably
ahead in this game by maybe mid third quarter, this
is your last meaningful chance to get a lot of
younger players who you might need down the line, quality
snaps in game. Okay, maybe maybe the scores decided, you know,
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maybe the games decided the scores lobside of whatever. But
I mean, the example I used seemingly every year is
whether it's because of injury or coach's choice, Indiana hasn't
started the same quarterback through all twelve games of a
regular season since twenty eighteen. Even last season. I think,
you know, fans kind of forget Curtis Rourke. He only
missed the one game, but that was still a meaningful game.
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That was Washington, it was a conference game, Game day
was in town. It was an important step. It wound up,
frankly being one of Indiana's better wins all things being equal,
last season. And if you don't get Alberta Mendoza maybe
some meaningful snaps tonight, if you're able to, well, then
he's gonna come in all that much less experienced and
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less confident, if you know, having forbid, at some point
his brother gets injured, goes down, you need to call
on Alberto. You also look sometimes at young players, you know,
Elijah Hardy, who just want of Indiana starting Linebacker's a
great example. He got he made a bunch of plays
in what we would probably generously describe as garbage time
against Western Illinois last season, against Purdue last season, but
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those were things that he built on. You know, he
was able to get out, come out of the season
and say, hey, maybe those games are long decided, but
I still have to tick six. I still had the
strip sack. I still did this and this and this,
and that gives me the confidence and the momentum to
go into an offseason where I wind up coming out
the other side with the starting job. That process for
young players can start here to your point about just
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sort of seeing, like what does your depth look like?
Sometimes guys don't won't really able to show you until
they get on the field for a drive or multiple
drives or you know, twenty twenty five thirty snaps. I
feel like maybe that balance shifts tennisas states the game
where you're leave the starters in a little longer. You
want them to have that rhythm, you want them to
have that time on task. If Indiana can get to
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a place where this game is comfortably in hand, I
think maybe that shifts a little bit For Kurt Signetti tonight.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
Speaking of balance, Zach, and maybe the time is now
for Indiana, and maybe Kurt Signetti was the perfect guy
at the perfect time. And let me explain what I'm
talking about. And maybe this is getting too into the weeds,
too far in a conversation for another time. But I
have kind of on the periphery monitored this and I
want you to tell me how even accurate it is
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college football now now that we have nil and everything else.
I mean, this is essentially a semi pro league and
it really is up to schools and you know, a
lot of different aspects as to how much they want
to spend, how much they want to buy a roster,
et cetera. You have revenue sharing within the Big Ten,
which was the forefront leader because they came up with
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their own television network. It catapulted it into the elite league.
It allowed it to get the coastal teams in Washington
and Oregon and USC and EUCLA. And now you have
Ohio State, who is the empire of the Big Ten,
coming out and saying this is all well and good,
but if we are going to rake in all this
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money with television deals, then we need to make sure
that those that are bringing in the most money are
or that are you know, are also the ones that
are getting the biggest slice of the pie. And that
is going to change and shift the way that the
Big Ten is balanced, because if you now all of
a sudden, have to pay Ohio State based on performance
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more than you're paying Northwestern, et cetera, that expedites the
necessity to get into the upper echelon of the Big Ten,
and Indiana needs to make sure they're at the front
of that table. Is that like a way over nuanced
way of looking at it.
Speaker 4 (07:08):
No, I don't think it is. And listen, I mean
I wrote something about this today. I think everyone's written
something about I think I've written a couple sur about it.
In the end, what Ted Carter said to my colleagues
Steve Burke whatever at USA today this week. On the
one hand, I think it should kind of be copyat
it by saying, you know, he.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
And by the way, Ted Carter, the president of Ohio State.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
For those that don't, yes, yes.
Speaker 4 (07:31):
He said, we are a member of the Big Ten
and that's where we plan to stay. He said, it
doesn't matter what I think. He said, you know, he
was he was clearly kind of tepid in all this.
I mean, I would say even somewhat reluctant. The quote
that I think got seized on was one and I
don't have the story right in front of me, where
he essentially said, that's a conversation that will probably be
ongoing around the next media rights deal, which will be
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renegotiated ahead of twenty thirty to current media rights steal
expired at the end of the twenty nine to thirty
academic year. I think the most interesting thing he said
in the other direction, because if you want to counter
all of that sort of outside defensive Ted Carter he
was the president of Nebraska for four years. He's been
the president of Ohio State for a year and a half.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
He's not a novice to this.
Speaker 4 (08:14):
He knows what it's going to say to people when
he says what he does. And I thought the bit
that was most interesting was when he talked very pointedly
about Ohio State's television performance and Ohio State's brand and
that you know that the schools that bring in that
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kind of TV audience should be rewarded for it in
some way, because that is essentially what comprises the bulk
of the AC.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
The revenue sharing.
Speaker 4 (08:46):
Model the ATC went to to keep Clemson and Florida
State suite when they were exploring trying to get out
of the conference.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
The ACC. I think it's sixty percent of your revenue.
Speaker 4 (08:57):
Your revenue share annually is determined on a five year
rolling average of basic essentially your television performance, how many
people are watching the games you're playing on TV, and
so the more you're on TV, the more popular you are,
the more money you're getting. And I think we can
all understand why the ACC did that. It could not
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afford to lose those schools. It had to give them
financial incentive. For so long, the Big Ten has not
had to do that. It's anything the Big Ten's parody
has has sort of underscored this sense of harmony that
was seen as one of the Big Ten superpowers that
you know, Big ten school has always moved in lockstep
because there was a financial parody that Okay, Ohio State's
going to make more on a football game day than Northwestern.
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But the conference, in terms of what money is earned
by a collective effort, the conference is going to treat
everyone equally, and right now, the only schools that aren't
unequal shares or organ in Washington because they're still being
phased in the idea that that could be re explored.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
Is I mean it is.
Speaker 4 (10:00):
It is meaningful for a couple of reasons, and I
don't want to get to macro. One is the obvious,
which is your point if we do get to twenty
thirty and the next TV deal winds up paying schools
more money if they're on TV more often, if their
games are being watched more often than Yes, you need
to be you need to be better at football that
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you know, That's just the plain and simple truth of it.
You need to have a number next year with you know,
people say polls don't matter, but we all know if
you've got a number it next to your name, you're
a lot more likely to grab, you know, the casual
viewer on a Saturday afternoon for an hour. There's also
kind of a macro piece of this. And you know,
this is where we really do get into a philosophical
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discussion that I think is dangerously sort of bottomless at
the moment, because there is no sort of there's no
theoretical bottom to it. Is the questions over a super leak,
and because when you have Clemson in Florida State, they
can look at the age and say, well, there's there's
a yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
You know, my apology. I didn't mean to cut you
off there, Zach Osterman, our guest from there, A star.
I have always felt, and I've been saying it for
ten years and you probably heard me say it, you know,
with you on the radio. Like I call it the
Hat World League. And the reason I say that, you
go into a hat World or Lids or whatever the
name of the hat store of your choice is in
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a in Butte, Montana, and you go in there. And
whether you're in Butte, Montana, Jonesboro, Arkansas, or Portland, Maine,
you go into a hat store like that. And from
a college standpoint, they're selling Notre Dame, Ohio State, Clemson,
Florida State, North Carolina, Texas, UCLA. You know, there's the
same twenty schools that are just big time brands. And
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I am convinced that eventually we're going to get to
the point where those twenty brands are going to come
together and say, what are we doing here? Do we
really want to be like bankrolling Northwestern and Wake Forest?
This is do our own deal? And sig it on
it now. I thought that ten years ago. I don't
know that I go there now, just because the money
is being so distributed throughout because of NIL and boosters
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and everything else.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
I've talked to it.
Speaker 4 (12:12):
So there's I talked to some people that are smarter
than me in the TV space, and for years they've
all kind of been super League. The future is super League?
What does that look like? Is at twenty teams?
Speaker 2 (12:23):
Twenty four? Is thirty two? Is at forty?
Speaker 4 (12:24):
Is it just a big ten in the SEC league?
And everybody to you know, to pick the bones off
off what's left.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
But they've all said super League.
Speaker 4 (12:31):
I will say that one or two that I've talked
to more recently have started to question whether the money
will be there, whether there is because ultimately, for ten
or fifteen years, cable TV was an ever expanding revenue
stream that is beginning to contract. And instead of making
pie like if we're going to torture this metaphor, instead
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of being able to make the pie larger and larger
every time a conference came back to renew its media
right steal, the pie is not getting bigger.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
Now.
Speaker 4 (13:00):
The question is basically, how can we carve off larger
pieces for the brands that matter the most, the Big Ken,
the SEC, at the expense of the brands that matter
a little bit less, and then the ACEC will get
more than the MAC, and then Big twelve will get
more than the.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
Sun Belt and so forth.
Speaker 4 (13:19):
This is I mean, this is a deep over simplification,
but there is a larger sense to which this is
what killed the Pact twelve. There is I think a
growing curiosity over whether there's actually enough money out.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
There to convince Ohio State.
Speaker 4 (13:38):
And Michigan to say, you know what, we have a
lot more in common with Alabama and I don't know
USC than we do with Northwestern and IU and Illinois.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
So we're just going to go play football with them.
Speaker 5 (13:48):
Now.
Speaker 4 (13:48):
I think what maybe the super League idea is starting
to transform into is something much more big Ken SEC
plus possibly Notre Dame. But again, this is all very
sort of theoretical, and what makes Ted Carter's comments this
week I think particularly relevant is Clinton and Florida State
have a lever they can pull that might kill the ACC,
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but it doesn't kill college sports. If Clinton and FSU
say hey we're out, well they'll just go to the SEC,
or they'll go to the Big ten, or they'll get
a sweetheart deal from the Big twelve because the Big
twelve is desperate to have a couple of big time
football brands. Whatever Ohio State doesn't have a lever to pull,
Ohio State doesn't have another league to go to, it's
not going to go in depend that. The only red
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line Ohio State has to cross is to say, if
we don't get what we want, we are going to
spearhead the formation of a super league. Now you know,
I am a fan of a longtime fan of European soccer.
European soccer powers have been threatening a super league for
thirty years, and they come post a couple of times
the closest they ever came. The backlash to the announcement
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was so swift and universal and forceful that the super
League didn't last seventy two hours before almost everyone back down.
That doesn't mean that they'll never try it again. I'm
just saying if there are and again, this is a
conversation we don't have to get into today because it
would be an hour's long deal. There are so many
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more parallels between European football. It's structure, it's culture, it's history,
it's dynamics and American college football than any other American sport.
And that's why I do point to this whole like, hey,
we all fear a super league. We've been feared a
super league for thirty years in European football and it
still hasn't happened.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
Now it has been, you know.
Speaker 4 (15:37):
A stick to walk into negotiations with when we want
to expand certain things or change revenue distributions. And that's
I think probably more of what Ken Carter was sort
of floating aboit, you know, a little bit of a
trial balloon for this week, is like, hey, what what
happens if at very least I say this just to
make sure that when we all go back to the
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table in twenty thirty, State gets one of the fushiest seats.
I think that's maybe even more kind of what we're
talking about. But listen to your point. If we do
go to that place, what is almost certainly going to
determine the bulk of a school's annual media rights revenues.
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The bulk of the school's annual cut from the television
deal is going to be how often they're on TV
and how well they perform when they're on TV, and
that means being better means being better at basketball too.
We shouldn't forget that that's still a billion dollar business,
but it means first and foremost being consistently better.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
At Listen, the Big Ten deal, you know, UCLA coming
in was entirely because the Big Ten won in USC
for football and UCLA USC wanted basically a travel partner,
for lack of better phrase, or a regional partner in
USC piggyback to their way in the fact that UCLA
is or excuse me, UCLA piggyback their way in off
of USC. The fact that UCLA is a rich basketball
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program was a benefit, but I don't think well is
a driving force in UCLA getting into the Big Ten.
This is all all of this power stuff is based
upon football and football revenue, but conversation probably more expansively
for another time. Tonight it is Indiana, Indiana State. Zach
Ostromer will have all of your coverage with The Indianapolis Star,
and joining us on very short notice today is appreciated. Zach,
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enjoy it.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
Man, absolutely thanks for having me as always.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
From the Indianapolis Star. Our buddy, Zach joining us on
the show. Yes, you know, when you think about that
conversation of college football and superpowers and power conferences and
all that in Ohio State, you know, every league, every
conference has their blue blood programs, and then everyone has
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the program that is just like a no name brand
that seems lost and clueless. And it's like, I can
understand why the Ohio States would say, we're not going
to give that kind of money to the lost and
clueless club with in our particular league if we're the
ones that are bringing it all in. But we shift
from talking college football now to the high school standpoint, speaking.
Speaker 6 (18:09):
Of lost and clueless, we bring on Kyle Edrip.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
From the That's right, Kyle Needrip joining us now on
the always busy and very active on this Friday guest line. Kyle,
there are some big ones tonight. Man, how are you
you do.
Speaker 5 (18:23):
It on purpose?
Speaker 1 (18:23):
H you we have that we have that bad Hey listen,
you said it, not me, right.
Speaker 6 (18:30):
That's right, it's my voice, so I'm to blame, that's right.
Uh yeah, big games. It's a it's a really kind
of a rivalry week, so to speak, with the Mudsock
game tonight and uh yeahs. By the way, right, Brownsburg
and Avon and the uh Tenners County game, shoot Hard
and Cathedral. Uh, you know, you kind of go down
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the list. There's quite a few of those type of
games tonight, you know. So it'll be it'll be fun night,
a lot of good a lot of good games, a
little bit hotter than it's been the first few weeks,
so kind of a throwback to August.
Speaker 5 (19:05):
It feels like tonight, So it'll be it'll be fun.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
You know. There are always in college football, there's always
a weekend that they call separation Saturday, right where it's
you know, that you really find out who's for real
and who's not. In high school football, are there any
games tonight that you look at Kyle and you say,
and there's one that I have in mind, but I'm
not going to lead the witness here a game that
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you look at it and say, these are two teams
or programs that we always assume are good, but perhaps
tonight is where we really find out the separation between
the two. Any games jump out.
Speaker 6 (19:40):
One I'm curious about is Carmel and Louisvill Trinity because
Carmel has been so good these first few weeks, and
then you know, we always know Louisville Trinity's, you know,
one of the best teams in the Midwest, and their
rank number one in six A in Kentucky. So going
on the road to play that game, I think will
give us an even better you know, even though they're
out of state and normally I go the opposite away.
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I think that of state games are sort of like,
you know, we don't know who these teams are, but
so it's hard to have a measuring stick. Louisville Turney
sort of the opposite. We pretty much know every year
and they play a lot of in state teams anyway,
So I think that'll be a great test, especially to
go away and try to win that game. And I
noticed all the Kentucky people were picking Trinity and there
in their predictions, so you know, it would be maybe
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a slight upset if Karmela could do it, but but
another great test for them. I think that'll be, you know,
one of the more interesting games. You know, there's probably
some others or maybe another one you're thinking of as well,
but I think there's there's a few that way, but
that's probably the one I was. You know, Yeah, there's
there's a lot I HC. Fishers will tell us a
lot too, but but that one kind of stuck out
to me a little bit, like, oh, how good is Carmel.
Speaker 5 (20:45):
I think we'll we'll find out tonight.
Speaker 3 (20:46):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
Then the one that to me I'm curious about because
there are two programs that historically you always think are
great programs. And you could look at the record of
Ben Davis and say it's a down here for Ben Davis,
but then you look at who they played, and for me,
it's like, I still want to see one more test
and they're going to get it tonight with center Grove. Now,
is there a clear disparity between these two teams.
Speaker 6 (21:08):
Yeah, although center Grove is battling some injuries situated. They
lost to Drake mccluy, who deserved their standout receiver I know,
you know, running back they've got an injury as well,
So there's a little bit of you know, I do
think Center Grove is the better, more experienced team this year,
and their their record so far and what they've done
so far kind of bears that out. Ben Davis is
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a little bit. They're definitely young. I mean they're starting
at freshman quarterback at six a which is which is
hard to do. Uh So, I yeah, and also the
you know, sort of the the news this week with
the Mick bringing back Center Grove and carmelsk sort of
the even though this doesn't count as a conference game,
it's it's a reminder that these teams will be conference
teams again. Center Grove and Ben Davis and obviously two
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of the two of the premier football programs traditionally, uh
in the state they've played some. I've covered a lot
of the games between these teams in the in the
past that they have been very memorable. So cool that
they're back in the same conference again. But I think
Center Grove's probably the the you know right now is
the better team. But yeah, Ben Davis will Uh they're
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not going to go anywhere, you know, and I guarantee
by the end of the season, they're going to.
Speaker 5 (22:16):
Be a team don't want to don't want to play.
Speaker 6 (22:18):
Was that a Metropolitan interstill Lastic conference decision or was
that a Carmel and Center Grove decision to go back?
Speaker 5 (22:26):
I mean it was mutual. I mean, everybody has to
agree on that, and you know, I think between.
Speaker 6 (22:33):
You know, gosh, I had a lot of conversations with people,
you know, even off the on end, off the record,
I guess about you know, kind of three and a
half years ago, what has happened in the time since then.
And you know, I think it's for the betterment of
both Carmel and Center Grove. In the Mick, you know,
when you only have six teams, you know, just you
you you're down a cup. You know, you want to
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have a conference, you want to have probably eight teams
is ideal, and you got two teams sitting out there
as independents that are having a hard I'm scheduling and
getting down to the middle school. You know, having just
to travel and do those things in middle school is
not ideal. So you know, I think it was mutual,
you know, and the Mick wouldn't have voted in that
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in favor of it if they didn't want to have
those schools back. So I think it's for everybody's benefit.
And you know, definitely had been hearing some things throughout
the summer that probably led to led you to think
this could happen eventually. And you know, I think for
the betterment of everybody. I think it's going to be good,
you know, to have them back in the mix. So
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but yeah, I think it's I think it's both.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
One of the games. Uh, you know, I mentioned each
week Crystal House is the team that I'm going to
spotlight each and every week because it's you know, a
smaller group of kids that are working hard. They've got
Crispus Addicts tonight, that's a seven o'clock kick. I wanted
to ask this, Kyle, because I think it's you know,
I've always enjoyed these schools, and that is among the
IPS schools, the one that so far through you know,
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the first I guess, gosh, hard to believe already quarter
of the season, but uh, the team that jumps out
at you where you say, you know what from an
IPS school, that that might be the best one so
far this year.
Speaker 6 (24:11):
Yeah, I think Addicts is probably that team. And they're
you know, kind of some you know, they're going to
have a new stadium they're going to be playing in
pretty soon, or refurbished stadium that looks pretty cool that
you know, it's a long time coming for sure.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
Yeah, they had a lot of problems with the literally
the foundation of the stands, right, weren't they having like
you know, I mean it needed. In other words, this
wasn't like just some cosmetic lets. I mean, this was
a necessary upgrade for them.
Speaker 6 (24:38):
You literally couldn't watch games there anymore, you know, you couldn't,
you know, it was that bad. I went over I
did a story in one of their h one of
their girl shot putters discus throwers.
Speaker 5 (24:47):
He's one of the best in the state.
Speaker 6 (24:48):
And you know, I was just over there, you know,
kind of looking around at it, and it was just,
you know, so much needed to be done. I'm glad,
you know, they it's finally happening, and it's going to
be a good Uh, it's gonna look great, you know,
when it's all completed. But yeah, I was looking at
their schedule. You know, they lost to Lutheran week one,
a very competitive game that that Lutheran ended up pulling
away and winning. But you know, then they beat Tech
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and Tinley the last two weeks and then going down.
I was looking next week, you know, Purdue Poly. Uh,
they both could be undefeated next week playing each other.
That that'd be two four and oh teams. And then
you look at the rest of the schedule and I'm
not sure there's another game. You know, I think they
could maybe now and be you know, potentially eight and
one going into the sectional, which is you know, they're
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in four A, which is tough. You know, you're the
acted schools. They don't have the overall numbers of players
a lot of these four A teams do usually, but
so you're battling an uphill battle against schools like Ron
Collage and Shatard in that same sectional.
Speaker 5 (25:43):
But if you can go.
Speaker 6 (25:44):
Eight and one, you know, that kind of shows you know,
Addicts is definitely get their program going in the right direction.
They've been very competitive these last probably three or four years. Uh,
you know, so it's it's been a it's been a
program on the upswing. But yeah, you're looking at what
they've done so far, I think they're probably the team
that stands out the most.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
So tonight, Kyle will be at the MUDSOT game, that
is the Hamblton County rivalry game between Hamilton Southeastern and Fishers.
And if I'm not mistaken, Kyle, even when in years
that there has been like maybe you know, seemingly on
paper a disparity between these two teams, this game almost
always comes down to a crazy finish, doesn't it.
Speaker 6 (26:22):
Oh Man, So many times. It's just every almost every
time I've covered it, it's been like an overtime or
a play at the goal line, or you know, something
wild that you know happened. I can't imagine it won't
be that late tonight.
Speaker 5 (26:36):
It's one of the unique games just you know, you
don't have.
Speaker 6 (26:39):
A lot of district you know, especially at this size
of school. You know, teams, kids that went to school together.
You know, it's basically like brothers playing against each other
in a lot of ways. So yeah, it's gonna you know,
it's almost always comes down to the wire. The crowds
are enormous every year, and I think it used to
be weak two and they pushed it back a couple
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of weeks.
Speaker 5 (26:59):
But it's yeah, it's.
Speaker 6 (27:01):
Always one of the best games on the schedule. The
red versus the blue, and the colors of the stadiums
really neat too, So yeah.
Speaker 5 (27:08):
It'll be a great game.
Speaker 6 (27:09):
I can't imagine it won't be a field goal cut
type game either way, or touchdown game either way. You know,
they're both competitive this year anyway. But it's just the nature,
you know, like you said, the nature of this series.
It's almost always a crazy close game.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
High school football in Indiana. I'm telling you it's it's
pretty awesome. And between the kids, the local communities, the support,
the lights. I love all of it. And Kyle Needdenrymple
will have all of it covered. Kyle appreciate the time
as always. All right, enjoy the games tonight.
Speaker 5 (27:38):
All right, guys, Thanks Jake.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
Kyle joining us from the Indianapol Star. I get the impression.
I have no idea. I've never met this next individual.
I watched them play a lot of football, and that
was a team and an era that I was covering.
Perdue and Tim Stratton was a fabulous player for the
boiler Makers. A three time first team All Big Time performer.
He was the inaugural John Mackey Award winner for the
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best tight end in college football. He caught passes not
only from Drew Brees but Kyle Orton. He climbed a
goalpost once. I have no idea, but I'm gonna guess
Tim Stratton probably is a Green Day fan. I don't
know why I think that. I just think that Tim
Stratton joining us on the program. He will be honored
along with his Rose Bowl teammates tomorrow at rass aid
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for Purdue and USC factor fiction Tim Stratton, Tim likes
Green Day.
Speaker 7 (28:30):
Tim used to like Green Day until they got political.
Then I stopped.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
Yes, So college Tim Stratton liked Green Day.
Speaker 3 (28:39):
Correct, correct, that is correct.
Speaker 7 (28:41):
I was a fan.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
Okay, fair enough now if it makes you feel any better.
And you and I have never met, but college Jake
had an internship in New York City and met this
chick and like thought, everything was going great. And then
in nineteen ninety four and she told me that her
boyfriend's band was coming for the weekend so she couldn't
get together. And it turns out our boyfriend's man was
in Green Day. So Jake also used to like Green
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Day and no longer does.
Speaker 3 (29:06):
That's awesome, that's awesome. That's that's fair.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
Right, Yeah, hey, let's get to this, and that is
you know, there's when I think back to this team
that's going to be honored tomorrow and that Rose Bowl team.
You know, we talked to Seth Morales yesterday and the
Holy Toledo play against Ohio State and it just was
such a fun group to watch play. And now you
get a chance to go back and be honored for
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the twenty fifth anniversary. First off, does it feel like
twenty five years ago?
Speaker 7 (29:37):
There's there's times where it does and times where it does,
and I guess it depends on how my back fields
when I get up in the morning.
Speaker 8 (29:42):
But you know, it's it's going to be great to a.
Speaker 7 (29:45):
Lot of the guys that are that are coming back in.
I now have you know my daughters that are been
active in sports. I have a collegiate volleyball player now.
So I told the guys that when I was coming in,
I go, you know, I'll be watching the game on
the field, but I will also probably be watching my
daughter's game on my phone at the same time. So
you know, it's just a different stagmic now for a
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lot of us.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
Okay, your daughter's a volleyball player.
Speaker 7 (30:09):
Where Youngstown State University.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
Oh that's cool. Speaking of which Horizon League, by the way,
based right here in Indy. And you know, I'll tell
you Tim, volleyball is amazing because first off, you know
they've got a professional team now here in Indy. That
is a sport that you want to talk about like momentum.
I would imagine you, and you tell me if I'm
wrong here, I would imagine Tim Stratton gets more on
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edge and nervous watching volleyball than he ever did lining
up as a football player.
Speaker 7 (30:40):
Absolutely, And I actually was a volleyball player in Illinois
coming out of high schools.
Speaker 8 (30:47):
Recruited to play football and basketball.
Speaker 7 (30:48):
And volleyball in college, and I ended up choosing football
because you know, it just happened. But I love the sport.
I love the fact my daughters were in it. My
middle one is the one that completely focused on it
and really worked their butt off to get to a
scholarship for college. And I'm just really proud of her.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
So let's talk about what it was if you had
those options, you know, and you were part of Joe
Tiller's first recruiting class at Purdue. If I'm not mistaken,
What was it about Purdue initially and Joe Tiller that
drew Tim Stratton out of Oakbrook, Illinois to West Lafayette.
Speaker 7 (31:23):
The fact that coach brought eight of his coaches to
my house. We sat around my parents' dining room table
and Coach was He asked me what I wanted to
do or you know, what I wanted to major, and
I said history.
Speaker 8 (31:35):
He goes, all right.
Speaker 7 (31:36):
One was Purdue founded and I had no clue when
Purdue was founding it because the only thing I knew
about Purdue was Mike Golfend and you know, maybe the astronast.
That was about the only thing I knew back then.
Obviously no social media, and the games were ever on TV.
It was always the Minnesota game that was like fifty
eight to forty eight or you know, they were always
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high scoring games. So but you know the fact that
they showed up Coach Corporates, the old quarterbacks coach that
was supposed to come with he passed away that summer
before we got there, so eight of the nine assistants
were there.
Speaker 8 (32:10):
And it really made a huge impact.
Speaker 7 (32:11):
On me and my family and just really fell them
up with the offense and the potential they knew. I
was obviously one hundred and ninety five pound wide receiver
in high school. But they said, listen, our tight end
at Wyoming last year called eighty balls. Do you want
to be like that or do you want to be
a slow receiver somewhere else? I'm like, that's a good point.
So it was a good selling point. It was also
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the fact that in the Big Ten at that time,
there were a bunch of coaches coming in, and Tiller's
staff was the only coach.
Speaker 8 (32:40):
Tiller was the only one that brought his entire staff
with him.
Speaker 7 (32:43):
Everyone else was putting the other of their staffs, you know,
Cam Cameron at IU, Turner Illinois, Mason of Minnesota. So
they're they're the continuity for them coming in, I thought
would be a huge benefit for myself and for the team.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
You know, my recollection of this, tim and this may
be way off, and you know, and I want to
get to you know, some of your your great games
you had and you know obviously catching balls from Drew
Brees and Kyle Orton, I mean, both great quarterbacks. You know,
there's a lot to get to there, but my recollection,
and you tell me if I'm wrong. I remember later
in your career that you were kind of a guy
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that Joe Tiller always was kind of poking is the
wrong word, but using as an example of areas that
he wanted leadership and maturity out of, and that he
pushed you harder than maybe other guys. But that's a
from outside perspective. Was there any accuracy to my assumption there?
Speaker 7 (33:38):
Yeah, there was some to it. I also was unfortunately
immature and childish and kind of a creature of the moment,
and so you know, not necessarily looking at long term,
but more the short term and you know, instant gratification
kind of. I guess now this younger generation, I guess
I'm in the wrong generation. But yeah, I just I
wanted to have fun. And you know, we always had
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Drew to tell media that what the school wanted them
to hear, and then you had me that told the truth.
So it was many many tune lashings from not only
Coach but all my parents and you know, Timmy would
just shut up, like.
Speaker 8 (34:13):
Just stop stop saying what you're saying. I'm like, well,
I'm not lying, you know.
Speaker 7 (34:18):
So it's uh uh.
Speaker 8 (34:20):
You know, having a little bit of koth was.
Speaker 7 (34:22):
Not something I had back then.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
So what was your relationship with Joe Tiller?
Speaker 7 (34:28):
Coach and I got along great. We I know publicly
it didn't look like we did, but we actually got
along great. I mean I considered him and Jim Cheney
is kind of like my other two dads and Coach
hope to be honest with you, so the uh, but
we we got along great. You know, we did have
our moments where, you know, publicly when I lost my
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helmet or you know all that jazz is the Michigan game.
You know, we had a few little run ins, I
would say, but all in all we got along great.
Speaker 1 (34:59):
And by the way, way because I do have to
ask about it. So you guys beat Michigan, You climb
up the goalposts and then somebody swipes your helmet. Right now, now,
how all did this go down? For those that are
unfamiliar with the story, enlighten us with the detail.
Speaker 7 (35:13):
All right, So Travis makes the game winning field goal.
We win the game. Myself and Brandon Goran was a
monthly native. We were gonna.
Speaker 8 (35:22):
We tried to go across.
Speaker 7 (35:23):
The field to say hi, to hide a buddy from
Chicago that was Don Michigan. So I tried to, you know,
go talking after the game, but Brandon wanted to go
talk to one of his buddies, but the.
Speaker 8 (35:33):
Crowd rushed the field.
Speaker 7 (35:34):
By the time I had lost track of Gorn, I
didn't know where he went. So by the time I
got to the north end zone goal, like you know,
end zone, just sing the fight song with the band,
the team was already gone, like they were rushed off
the field, and so I was like, you know what,
I thought. All these kids were around me, and I'm like,
you know, what's screw it, Let's go to the goal post.
And I handed my helmet to a kid in one
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of my classes because I recognized them in class, and
apparently so the kids were trying to lift me up,
you know, my full uniform, and he put the helmet
down to help lift me up, and that's when another
student swiped the helmet. And so after I got you know,
hanging off the goal posts, I was hanging on the
goal post, and then I got crowd served about the
fifty yard line. And when I got down from you know,
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tom that I realized that I'm I got to crap
my helmet's gun decision going to go over well. So
I tried to usher you know her quiet down the
kids that are around me and just say fifty bucks
in the case of here whoever could find my helmet,
and I sort of got you saw every kid like
looking all over pretty pretty powerful. And then by the
time I got to the locker room, the team had
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already like coach already spoke the team like most of
the guys were showered already out of the locker room
so I'm like, all right, well, I guess I don't
have my helmet. And so Sunday's practice we would practice
on Sundays and off on Mondays. I had a backup
helmet that it was, you know, given to me. And
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Sunday night I would write a diary for ABC sports
dot Com that year, that season, and so I wrote
in the diary or the in my uh yeah, in
the diary, I submitted it to our sid, who then
submits to SI you know.
Speaker 2 (37:17):
To publish it.
Speaker 7 (37:18):
And so I wrote in there, if anyone has any
whereabouts my helmet, I will give you the game ball
from the Michigan game. And so we got all these
calls we got, I mean, back then we only had
call our ID that was like the new thing back then.
And so we got all these random pulcro numbers that
you know, we'd get in the car and drive over
to you know, someone would say at this house and
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at that house, and like idiots, we just drove all
over looking for it. And because Taylor had threatened to
suspend me the following week against Northquestern which for me
was like a home game, you know, back up here
in Chicago.
Speaker 8 (37:50):
So Sunday practice.
Speaker 7 (37:53):
Have the backup Monday, we're off Tuesday. I wear the
backup helmet Wednesday, backup helmet. Thursday's practice. I did the
locker room and the backup helmet's.
Speaker 8 (38:02):
Gone, and I'm like, gosh, you know, crap.
Speaker 7 (38:05):
I looked at Metrion, I looked at Vannie. I looked
at the usual suspects right that light. I looked at
the guys i'd know would mess with me. I'm like,
who took it? And all of them were like, we
didn't do it, we didn't take it. So I went
to the manager, the our equipment manager, Mike Shandrick, and
I'm like, hey, Mikey, where's my where's my other helmet?
Speaker 8 (38:20):
He's like, coach told us to take it away. I'm
like all right.
Speaker 7 (38:24):
So Thursday's practice he was like a shelf practice where
it's shoulder pad helmets and dieboards. So I went out
there and just my shoulder pads and.
Speaker 8 (38:31):
My you know shorts and tiewards.
Speaker 7 (38:33):
With no helmet, you know, start getting in the stretch
lines and seller comes walking up to me and he's like, hey,
where's your where's your helmet?
Speaker 8 (38:40):
I said, coach, you know, DM wore, well, where my
helmet is you had it taken away? He's like, I
told you you don't get your homet back. You're playing.
Speaker 7 (38:48):
And I said, coach, that's BS. I said, Thunderboy, which
is my nickname for Drew. I said, wonder boy. I
had his helmet take it two years ago after a
bowl practice.
Speaker 8 (38:57):
No one said a word.
Speaker 7 (38:58):
But I'm the jerk tickets know his helmetaking, and I'm
you know, now I'm the one being suspended.
Speaker 8 (39:02):
I go, that's not fair. I use some other words.
But we're on public radios.
Speaker 7 (39:06):
So.
Speaker 2 (39:08):
Yes.
Speaker 7 (39:08):
And so he's like, I didn't know about that. I'm
like coaching everyone. I just knew about it. You know,
it is what it is, So lo and behold my backup.
Homet comes back, you know, comes out to the field.
I put it out in practice. And then that night
my one of our roommates answered the phone at like
in the morning and Alex tone from Lane and he
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some kid called from like a computer lab, a compute
Fordue University computer labs. That's how it pops up on
the collar, I d which is smart on that kid's part.
So you know, we were trying to track down whoever
took it, and he just said, listen, can you please
give Tim Stratton a you know, a message let him
know his helmet is where he leftive underneath the north
end zone gold post. So Alex said, sure, hung up.
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The kid called back fifteen minutes later say please, can
you just repeat what I had the message I need
to get to Tim, and Alex like, sure, the gold
polls great, hung up.
Speaker 8 (40:01):
Well, Apparently the kid broke into the stadium.
Speaker 7 (40:04):
Put the helmet underneath the north end zone goldfuss where
he found it, and it had a letter in it
which stated, dear mister Stratton, I hope this helmet brings
you as much pleasure and has brought me these past
few days and something else.
Speaker 8 (40:17):
But my sick mind was just thinking, what did.
Speaker 7 (40:20):
You do with it? And right, you know, like you know,
being an eighteen, nineteen.
Speaker 8 (40:25):
Twenty year old kid, that's immediately what I thought.
Speaker 7 (40:28):
And it turns out that he had called also called
Coach Killer's office and left the message with Carlita, our secretary,
and so the managers went in that that morning, you know,
took the helmet apart to detected.
Speaker 8 (40:39):
It, put it back together, and I was able to
play the rest of the season with it. And now
that helmet doesn't doesn't leave me.
Speaker 1 (40:44):
So where did you know that? Did you ever find
out who the kid was? Did you give him a
kay Sa beer?
Speaker 8 (40:49):
You know what I did? Not what I did?
Speaker 7 (40:51):
He sent like a couple of buddies or at least
they claimed to be his friends, because they wanted the
game ball from the Michigan.
Speaker 8 (40:58):
Game, because that's what that was my reward.
Speaker 7 (41:00):
And uh so I ended up taking a practice ball
and had a couple of the walk on you know,
sign it and give it to the kid and then like, screw.
Speaker 3 (41:08):
You, you know what I mean, Like you're okay, all right?
Speaker 7 (41:11):
If you're not, if you're not going to be a
man enough to like come and at least say, hey,
it's my fault.
Speaker 8 (41:15):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 7 (41:17):
But it turns out that the I found out from
his friend that the kid when he took the helmet,
he went home, it was Paul breaked and he lived
a couple hours away, so he gave the helmet to
his little brother, and so it took him a couple
of days to get back to you know, grab it
and bring it back to school. So that that was
the delay, But nonetheless it was me being stupid so.
Speaker 1 (41:36):
Here's that thing though. Look, and I get the fact
that like from a now that we are adults, right,
you got to look back and say, you know, that
was immature and whatever else. But but let's be real
here in the moment, the crowdsurfing had to be pretty awesome.
Speaker 8 (41:49):
Oh it was great.
Speaker 7 (41:50):
I mean when I met with Chiller on Sunday, uh uh,
he called me into his off and he's like, hey,
how did a hundred guys get off the field with
their their helmet? And you're the the idiot that that didn't?
I go, coach, I got you know, it was mobbed.
You know, the kids were all over. And he pulls
up a picture of one of the newspapers and it
shows me crowdsurfing holding throw flags like in my hands,
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and he's like, really, I go, all right, you got me, like,
you know, my bad. So I couldn't lie my way
out of that one, but I definitely tried.
Speaker 1 (42:22):
Hey, what's your relationship now with you know, just your
teammates in general? And you know, I think you were
you're obviously kind of a fun loving teammate, but you know,
Drew Brees, for example, who you caught a lot of
balls from and you guys had a great on field relationship.
What's the relationship now? And who are you looking forward
to seeing this weekend?
Speaker 7 (42:41):
You know, I'm looking forward to seeing all the guys.
You know, I still talk with you know, that recruiting class.
We were Tiller's first class, myself, true, Ben Smith, Jason Borzelle,
Vinny Matrio Own. You know, we had a real good
group of guys.
Speaker 8 (42:56):
And I think what.
Speaker 7 (42:57):
Really like Gelda with us was the fact that we
were ranked the tenth out of the eleven Big Ten
recruiting classes. And I think that helped that motivated us
to say, you know what, Tom Lemon, you don't know anything.
Speaker 8 (43:09):
You know, all these other.
Speaker 7 (43:09):
People I don't even know back then move they were,
But we're going.
Speaker 2 (43:13):
To prove you wrong.
Speaker 7 (43:14):
We're going to come in and play this basketball and
grass and it was. It was a fun group. We're
all still really tight, which is good. I mean, you know,
we're all busy now with our own kids and working
everything else, but when we have an opportunity to get together,
it's sure is nice to see everyone.
Speaker 1 (43:30):
Tim Stratton, our guest the tight End, who was the
inaugural winner of the John mackew Ward given out to
college football's best tight end. The reigning owner of that
title is Tyler Warren, who is with the Colts and
will be with them Sunday against the Broncos at Lucas
Oil Stadium. He won the award last year at Penn State.
How much Tim do you follow still like college football
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and for that matter, of the NFL today, and if so,
your impressions of Tyler Warren.
Speaker 8 (43:58):
I think he's all of the player.
Speaker 7 (44:00):
I actually am on the voting committee for the Matthew Award,
so I he was definitely my top tack. Kim then
Colston Love and Loveland the Bears a tight endow. But
I really enjoyed watching Tyler play. Ironically, my fifth year
at Purdue. When I stayed for my fifth year, I was.
Speaker 8 (44:19):
The third street quarterback.
Speaker 7 (44:20):
So if the two freshmen went down, Brandon Hanson Kyle Orton,
I was the emergency quarterback. So it was because I
knew the offense and I could throw the wall. So
it was kind of a irony that you know, our
latest winner could play quarterback, running back.
Speaker 8 (44:35):
You mean, he could do it all.
Speaker 7 (44:36):
He's just a hell of an athlete, and I'm happy
the Colts took him and he's I think he's gonna
have a great kind of all career.
Speaker 1 (44:43):
Yeah, he's a heck of a player. And you're right,
you can kind of you love any guy. I mean
Tim Stratton. He is an old school dude. I mean,
Shane Steichen said, just an old school baller. And you
got to kind of see a little of yourself in that,
like you just talked about, right, just the ability to
be versatile like that. It really does feel throwback, doesn't it.
Speaker 8 (45:03):
It does, it does, and it's great.
Speaker 7 (45:05):
It's it was really fun to watch him play. He
was definitely a different difference maker for Penn State and
I think he's gonna do wonderful.
Speaker 8 (45:13):
Things for the Colts.
Speaker 1 (45:14):
Okay, lastly, for this game Purdue and USC, you often watch,
I know you said, you know, you've got your daughter
playing at Youngsound State, and you got kids, and you
got a lot going on. But for Purdue football, just
your overall impressions are what you would like to see,
other than the obvious, which is a win against USC
and what is now a new era for Purdue football.
Speaker 7 (45:34):
It's crazy to me that this is considered a Big
Ten game. To be honest, I we knowing because we
played them in ninety eight and the Kickoff Classic out
at the Coliseum and so it was.
Speaker 8 (45:45):
It's just so weird for it.
Speaker 7 (45:46):
But nonetheless, I think it's going to be. I hope
it's going to be a great game. I'm hoping our
I know, offensively, their first two games, I think they're
one of the highest averaging offenses in the country right now,
scoring wise, I'm really hoping to get the defense concitle
their offense. And I'd like to see Ryan Brown throw
the ball more. I'd like to see the tight ends
be more involved in the offense. And then Devin Makiby,
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I think is you know, he could be a difference
maker tomorrow depending on how our offensive line performs.
Speaker 1 (46:17):
By the way, since you guys played in the Rose Bowl,
I mean you mentioned playing at USC then obviously you
play Washington in the Rose Bowl. That's what you guys
are going to be honored for coming up tomorrow. I
just went to the Rose Bowl, not for a football game.
I went to a concert there last weekend and I
had never been in the Rose Bowl. I mean, obviously
the Rose Bowl is so iconic and I mentioned this
and I want you Tim Stratton to basically to have
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my back here. Fabulous venue, historic, beautiful setting, beautiful sunset,
beautiful mountains in the background. A terrible and I know
you were on the field and you were not up
in the stands, but maybe, like friends or family told
you this, presumably everybody when that stadium was built was
five foot six and one hundred and ten pounds. That
is the most I have to dump. Ever, I believe that. Yeah,
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my family did say that. I mean I'm the biggest
in my family, but my.
Speaker 7 (47:08):
Brothers that were there, my sister, my uncles.
Speaker 8 (47:10):
You know, they're all about six feet tall. So but
they did say that.
Speaker 7 (47:15):
I thought the the stadium was cool. From obviously the
field perspective, I wish our outcome could have been a
lot different than we would have thrown the.
Speaker 8 (47:22):
Ball a hell of a lot more than we did.
Speaker 7 (47:24):
But it was really uh And our Purdue fans traveled
so well.
Speaker 8 (47:28):
I mean they are.
Speaker 7 (47:30):
I mean I still get people that I run into
from work that are like we were at the Rose Bowl.
I mean, it was there was huge rallies there. There
were so many fans out there. And what's funny is
a lot of people in like the La area where
Cassidy in the area thought Purdue was a an.
Speaker 8 (47:45):
Ivy League school. They literally we'd go the guys whould.
Speaker 7 (47:47):
Go out and you know, we have a drink or something,
and then bartenders would be like, are you an Ivy
League school?
Speaker 8 (47:51):
Like what are you doing out here? We're like, no,
we're big ten.
Speaker 7 (47:54):
But obviously nobody from Produ's been out here since nineteen
sixty seven.
Speaker 8 (47:58):
So but it was a great experience. I really enjoyed it.
Speaker 7 (48:03):
I wish I wouldn't snapped the ball over the punter's
head the one time, but you know, than it was fun.
Speaker 1 (48:07):
Yeah, okay, fair enough, Tim Stratton, listen, soak it all in.
Have fun this weekend. You know, if they beat USC,
feel free to climb the goalpost, CrowdSurf, do whatever you
want to do.
Speaker 3 (48:19):
Right.
Speaker 7 (48:21):
Yeah, this tit, though, I might get arrested, so I
don't know if that's I don't know if that's worth it,
but you know, maybe maybe Purdue Caps will be nice.
Speaker 1 (48:28):
By the way, do you know what your Purdue was founded?
Speaker 8 (48:33):
Was it eighteen sixty eight?
Speaker 1 (48:35):
I think I'm looking this up.
Speaker 3 (48:37):
I'm looking this up.
Speaker 7 (48:38):
Ooh, I know eighteen eighty nine.
Speaker 1 (48:40):
I can't eighteen sixty nine. Basically, I'm may give it
to you. That's good May sixth of eighteen sixty nine, right,
And I'm sure you probably looked that up after. Of
course you couldn't google it when Joe Tiller came in.
But nonetheless, you know what I mean.
Speaker 7 (48:52):
Oh, no, gosh, no, you know that's but coach loved
to like I said, if if you said you wanted
to do something or you were going to do something,
he called out on it. So which I appreciated everything
he said, even though at the time I didn't as
an adult and as a parent, as a coach, I
appreciate everything that all the coaches you know, taught us,
and so I try to use that when you know,
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with parenting, with coaching, with you know, everyday life.
Speaker 1 (49:18):
What do you do now, by the way, you mentioned coaching,
what is life like for Tim Stratton?
Speaker 7 (49:22):
Now, you know I used to coach high school football.
I coached Division III football for a couple of years,
then I coached high school. Then I went to grade
school when my nephews were playing. Then I went back
to high school, and then now I've stopped because my
kids got busy.
Speaker 8 (49:36):
So you know, I like to actually go watch my
own kids.
Speaker 7 (49:39):
And then I've also.
Speaker 8 (49:41):
I'm a director of business development for an.
Speaker 7 (49:43):
Electrical contracting firm up here in Chicago, And so I
mean I used to have a little more freedom with coaching,
But now that I decided to step away and actually
watch my own kids, I miss it.
Speaker 8 (49:56):
But I don't miss it because.
Speaker 7 (49:57):
I think the generations are a little different now, meaning
my personality and coaching personality is more like how I
was coached, right, how these kids are.
Speaker 1 (50:07):
Now totally different era. Yes, that is correct.
Speaker 2 (50:09):
Oh my god.
Speaker 7 (50:10):
You know I'm not afraid to call a kid out
in front of people, and a lot of these kids,
you know, they can't take that anymore.
Speaker 8 (50:18):
You know, the kids that want to.
Speaker 7 (50:19):
Do well and want to excel, they accept it and
know it not meant from any other purpose of you know,
trying to hurt them. It's trying to help them improve.
But you know, you got a lot of these parents
that are living vicariously through their kids, so you know
they want to be involved in everything.
Speaker 1 (50:32):
So I trust me, I totally get it. Totally get it.
Speaker 5 (50:36):
Tim.
Speaker 1 (50:36):
We appreciate it. Man, Boiler up and enjoy it this weekend.
Speaker 3 (50:39):
All right?
Speaker 8 (50:40):
Thanks? So much.
Speaker 7 (50:41):
Really appreciate you having me on
Speaker 1 (50:42):
Tim Stratt and joining us on the program.
Joining us now on the guest line. He is, of course,
with the Indianapolis Star. He is our friend, Zach. Thank
you who joins us?
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Zach?
Speaker 1 (00:09):
Are you on your way down to Bloomington or are you
already there?
Speaker 2 (00:12):
I'm always here. I never leave.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
You know what, I don't know why I was thinking
you lived on the south side of Indianapolis. I didn't
realize that you live on the south side of Bloomington.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
Okay, that's cool, you south side?
Speaker 1 (00:25):
Do you live on the lake by the way, that's
the way south side?
Speaker 4 (00:28):
Right, No, I don't go quite that far south, but
we are firmly in that direction.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
All right, fair enough, let's begin with this this game.
And I know it sounds crazy because of the year
that Indiana had last year and the fact that they
seemingly still have their foot on the accelerator although key
faces in new key areas or new faces in key areas.
So let's begin with this. Do we know more about
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Indiana or Indiana State in this game?
Speaker 4 (00:58):
I mean, I think for our purposes, I think we
probably know more about Indiana. But I think we always
recognize that. I mean, like I've been calling this three
game starts to preseason basically all year and that this
was it was always going to feel a little bit
like that, where you felt like you could maybe clean
certain things. You wanted to see certain relationships forming. You
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wanted to know is the improvement here real? And they
figure out the defensive line rotation, what do they look
like in the you know, the secondary has been remade,
all this kind of stuff. But we all knew kind
of like an NFL preseason, you're not going to come
out of it just sort of being able to say,
my mind has been completely made up about what this
team is and what it's capable of. That's only going
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to happen in the games that really matter. I understand
college is a little different. These games matter. If Indiana
were to lose tonight, you know, that would have all
kinds of ramifications over the Hoosiers, you know, playoff candidacy
and whatever. It's It's not like losing an NFL preseason
game in terms of being risk free, but I think
it is in terms of just sort of judging the
why trajectory of the season.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Frankly, do you with Indiana, Zach and I was talking
about this earlier. When you have these three games, and
I mean This is no disrespect to the opponents, but
Kurt Signetti has been so outspoken about, you know, just
the way that they have managed the scheduling. Is there
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an extent to these games where it actually is about
more your depth than it is rhythm of your starters
and learning your depth and getting repetition of your depth
and making sure that you are kind of getting all
bases covered. Is there any aspect of that in these
three games.
Speaker 4 (02:46):
I think it's personally a split of both. I mean,
Signetti said himself the reason that he left his starters
in longer than probably we expected him too against Kenneso
State was because he said, a lot of these guys
haven't Maybe they've played a lot of football, but they
haven't a lot of football together. We need these snaps,
we need this rhythm. On the other hand, I think
a game like tonight, and I've written this this week,
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I think the flip side to that is this is
your last meaningful chance, assuming you can get to it,
and you want to be respectful of Indiana State, but
assuming Indiana can get to a place where it's comfortably
ahead in this game by maybe mid third quarter, this
is your last meaningful chance to get a lot of
younger players who you might need down the line, quality
snaps in game. Okay, maybe maybe the scores decided, you know,
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maybe the games decided the scores lobside of whatever. But
I mean, the example I used seemingly every year is
whether it's because of injury or coach's choice, Indiana hasn't
started the same quarterback through all twelve games of a
regular season since twenty eighteen. Even last season. I think,
you know, fans kind of forget Curtis Rourke. He only
missed the one game, but that was still a meaningful game.
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That was Washington, it was a conference game, Game day
was in town. It was an important step. It wound up,
frankly being one of Indiana's better wins all things being equal,
last season. And if you don't get Alberta Mendoza maybe
some meaningful snaps tonight, if you're able to, well, then
he's gonna come in all that much less experienced and
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less confident, if you know, having forbid, at some point
his brother gets injured, goes down, you need to call
on Alberto. You also look sometimes at young players, you know,
Elijah Hardy, who just want of Indiana starting Linebacker's a
great example. He got he made a bunch of plays
in what we would probably generously describe as garbage time
against Western Illinois last season, against Purdue last season, but
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those were things that he built on. You know, he
was able to get out, come out of the season
and say, hey, maybe those games are long decided, but
I still have to tick six. I still had the
strip sack. I still did this and this and this,
and that gives me the confidence and the momentum to
go into an offseason where I wind up coming out
the other side with the starting job. That process for
young players can start here to your point about just
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sort of seeing, like what does your depth look like?
Sometimes guys don't won't really able to show you until
they get on the field for a drive or multiple
drives or you know, twenty twenty five thirty snaps. I
feel like maybe that balance shifts tennisas states the game
where you're leave the starters in a little longer. You
want them to have that rhythm, you want them to
have that time on task. If Indiana can get to
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a place where this game is comfortably in hand, I
think maybe that shifts a little bit For Kurt Signetti tonight.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
Speaking of balance, Zach, and maybe the time is now
for Indiana, and maybe Kurt Signetti was the perfect guy
at the perfect time. And let me explain what I'm
talking about. And maybe this is getting too into the weeds,
too far in a conversation for another time. But I
have kind of on the periphery monitored this and I
want you to tell me how even accurate it is
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college football now now that we have nil and everything else.
I mean, this is essentially a semi pro league and
it really is up to schools and you know, a
lot of different aspects as to how much they want
to spend, how much they want to buy a roster,
et cetera. You have revenue sharing within the Big Ten,
which was the forefront leader because they came up with
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their own television network. It catapulted it into the elite league.
It allowed it to get the coastal teams in Washington
and Oregon and USC and EUCLA. And now you have
Ohio State, who is the empire of the Big Ten,
coming out and saying this is all well and good,
but if we are going to rake in all this
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money with television deals, then we need to make sure
that those that are bringing in the most money are
or that are you know, are also the ones that
are getting the biggest slice of the pie. And that
is going to change and shift the way that the
Big Ten is balanced, because if you now all of
a sudden, have to pay Ohio State based on performance
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more than you're paying Northwestern, et cetera, that expedites the
necessity to get into the upper echelon of the Big Ten,
and Indiana needs to make sure they're at the front
of that table. Is that like a way over nuanced
way of looking at it.
Speaker 4 (07:08):
No, I don't think it is. And listen, I mean
I wrote something about this today. I think everyone's written
something about I think I've written a couple sur about it.
In the end, what Ted Carter said to my colleagues
Steve Burke whatever at USA today this week. On the
one hand, I think it should kind of be copyat
it by saying, you know, he.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
And by the way, Ted Carter, the president of Ohio State.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
For those that don't, yes, yes.
Speaker 4 (07:31):
He said, we are a member of the Big Ten
and that's where we plan to stay. He said, it
doesn't matter what I think. He said, you know, he
was he was clearly kind of tepid in all this.
I mean, I would say even somewhat reluctant. The quote
that I think got seized on was one and I
don't have the story right in front of me, where
he essentially said, that's a conversation that will probably be
ongoing around the next media rights deal, which will be
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renegotiated ahead of twenty thirty to current media rights steal
expired at the end of the twenty nine to thirty
academic year. I think the most interesting thing he said
in the other direction, because if you want to counter
all of that sort of outside defensive Ted Carter he
was the president of Nebraska for four years. He's been
the president of Ohio State for a year and a half.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
He's not a novice to this.
Speaker 4 (08:14):
He knows what it's going to say to people when
he says what he does. And I thought the bit
that was most interesting was when he talked very pointedly
about Ohio State's television performance and Ohio State's brand and
that you know that the schools that bring in that
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kind of TV audience should be rewarded for it in
some way, because that is essentially what comprises the bulk
of the AC.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
The revenue sharing.
Speaker 4 (08:46):
Model the ATC went to to keep Clemson and Florida
State suite when they were exploring trying to get out
of the conference.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
The ACC. I think it's sixty percent of your revenue.
Speaker 4 (08:57):
Your revenue share annually is determined on a five year
rolling average of basic essentially your television performance, how many
people are watching the games you're playing on TV, and
so the more you're on TV, the more popular you are,
the more money you're getting. And I think we can
all understand why the ACC did that. It could not
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afford to lose those schools. It had to give them
financial incentive. For so long, the Big Ten has not
had to do that. It's anything the Big Ten's parody
has has sort of underscored this sense of harmony that
was seen as one of the Big Ten superpowers that
you know, Big ten school has always moved in lockstep
because there was a financial parody that Okay, Ohio State's
going to make more on a football game day than Northwestern.
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But the conference, in terms of what money is earned
by a collective effort, the conference is going to treat
everyone equally, and right now, the only schools that aren't
unequal shares or organ in Washington because they're still being
phased in the idea that that could be re explored.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
Is I mean it is.
Speaker 4 (10:00):
It is meaningful for a couple of reasons, and I
don't want to get to macro. One is the obvious,
which is your point if we do get to twenty
thirty and the next TV deal winds up paying schools
more money if they're on TV more often, if their
games are being watched more often than Yes, you need
to be you need to be better at football that
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you know, That's just the plain and simple truth of it.
You need to have a number next year with you know,
people say polls don't matter, but we all know if
you've got a number it next to your name, you're
a lot more likely to grab, you know, the casual
viewer on a Saturday afternoon for an hour. There's also
kind of a macro piece of this. And you know,
this is where we really do get into a philosophical
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discussion that I think is dangerously sort of bottomless at
the moment, because there is no sort of there's no
theoretical bottom to it. Is the questions over a super leak,
and because when you have Clemson in Florida State, they
can look at the age and say, well, there's there's
a yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
You know, my apology. I didn't mean to cut you
off there, Zach Osterman, our guest from there, A star.
I have always felt, and I've been saying it for
ten years and you probably heard me say it, you know,
with you on the radio. Like I call it the
Hat World League. And the reason I say that, you
go into a hat World or Lids or whatever the
name of the hat store of your choice is in
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a in Butte, Montana, and you go in there. And
whether you're in Butte, Montana, Jonesboro, Arkansas, or Portland, Maine,
you go into a hat store like that. And from
a college standpoint, they're selling Notre Dame, Ohio State, Clemson,
Florida State, North Carolina, Texas, UCLA. You know, there's the
same twenty schools that are just big time brands. And
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I am convinced that eventually we're going to get to
the point where those twenty brands are going to come
together and say, what are we doing here? Do we
really want to be like bankrolling Northwestern and Wake Forest?
This is do our own deal? And sig it on
it now. I thought that ten years ago. I don't
know that I go there now, just because the money
is being so distributed throughout because of NIL and boosters
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and everything else.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
I've talked to it.
Speaker 4 (12:12):
So there's I talked to some people that are smarter
than me in the TV space, and for years they've
all kind of been super League. The future is super League?
What does that look like? Is at twenty teams?
Speaker 2 (12:23):
Twenty four? Is thirty two? Is at forty?
Speaker 4 (12:24):
Is it just a big ten in the SEC league?
And everybody to you know, to pick the bones off
off what's left.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
But they've all said super League.
Speaker 4 (12:31):
I will say that one or two that I've talked
to more recently have started to question whether the money
will be there, whether there is because ultimately, for ten
or fifteen years, cable TV was an ever expanding revenue
stream that is beginning to contract. And instead of making
pie like if we're going to torture this metaphor, instead
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of being able to make the pie larger and larger
every time a conference came back to renew its media
right steal, the pie is not getting bigger.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
Now.
Speaker 4 (13:00):
The question is basically, how can we carve off larger
pieces for the brands that matter the most, the Big Ken,
the SEC, at the expense of the brands that matter
a little bit less, and then the ACEC will get
more than the MAC, and then Big twelve will get
more than the.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
Sun Belt and so forth.
Speaker 4 (13:19):
This is I mean, this is a deep over simplification,
but there is a larger sense to which this is
what killed the Pact twelve. There is I think a
growing curiosity over whether there's actually enough money out.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
There to convince Ohio State.
Speaker 4 (13:38):
And Michigan to say, you know what, we have a
lot more in common with Alabama and I don't know
USC than we do with Northwestern and IU and Illinois.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
So we're just going to go play football with them.
Speaker 5 (13:48):
Now.
Speaker 4 (13:48):
I think what maybe the super League idea is starting
to transform into is something much more big Ken SEC
plus possibly Notre Dame. But again, this is all very
sort of theoretical, and what makes Ted Carter's comments this
week I think particularly relevant is Clinton and Florida State
have a lever they can pull that might kill the ACC,
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but it doesn't kill college sports. If Clinton and FSU
say hey we're out, well they'll just go to the SEC,
or they'll go to the Big ten, or they'll get
a sweetheart deal from the Big twelve because the Big
twelve is desperate to have a couple of big time
football brands. Whatever Ohio State doesn't have a lever to pull,
Ohio State doesn't have another league to go to, it's
not going to go in depend that. The only red
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line Ohio State has to cross is to say, if
we don't get what we want, we are going to
spearhead the formation of a super league. Now you know,
I am a fan of a longtime fan of European soccer.
European soccer powers have been threatening a super league for
thirty years, and they come post a couple of times
the closest they ever came. The backlash to the announcement
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was so swift and universal and forceful that the super
League didn't last seventy two hours before almost everyone back down.
That doesn't mean that they'll never try it again. I'm
just saying if there are and again, this is a
conversation we don't have to get into today because it
would be an hour's long deal. There are so many
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more parallels between European football. It's structure, it's culture, it's history,
it's dynamics and American college football than any other American sport.
And that's why I do point to this whole like, hey,
we all fear a super league. We've been feared a
super league for thirty years in European football and it
still hasn't happened.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
Now it has been, you know.
Speaker 4 (15:37):
A stick to walk into negotiations with when we want
to expand certain things or change revenue distributions. And that's
I think probably more of what Ken Carter was sort
of floating aboit, you know, a little bit of a
trial balloon for this week, is like, hey, what what
happens if at very least I say this just to
make sure that when we all go back to the
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table in twenty thirty, State gets one of the fushiest seats.
I think that's maybe even more kind of what we're
talking about. But listen to your point. If we do
go to that place, what is almost certainly going to
determine the bulk of a school's annual media rights revenues.
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The bulk of the school's annual cut from the television
deal is going to be how often they're on TV
and how well they perform when they're on TV, and
that means being better means being better at basketball too.
We shouldn't forget that that's still a billion dollar business,
but it means first and foremost being consistently better.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
At Listen, the Big Ten deal, you know, UCLA coming
in was entirely because the Big Ten won in USC
for football and UCLA USC wanted basically a travel partner,
for lack of better phrase, or a regional partner in
USC piggyback to their way in the fact that UCLA
is or excuse me, UCLA piggyback their way in off
of USC. The fact that UCLA is a rich basketball
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program was a benefit, but I don't think well is
a driving force in UCLA getting into the Big Ten.
This is all all of this power stuff is based
upon football and football revenue, but conversation probably more expansively
for another time. Tonight it is Indiana, Indiana State. Zach
Ostromer will have all of your coverage with The Indianapolis Star,
and joining us on very short notice today is appreciated. Zach,
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enjoy it.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
Man, absolutely thanks for having me as always.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
From the Indianapolis Star. Our buddy, Zach joining us on
the show. Yes, you know, when you think about that
conversation of college football and superpowers and power conferences and
all that in Ohio State, you know, every league, every
conference has their blue blood programs, and then everyone has
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the program that is just like a no name brand
that seems lost and clueless. And it's like, I can
understand why the Ohio States would say, we're not going
to give that kind of money to the lost and
clueless club with in our particular league if we're the
ones that are bringing it all in. But we shift
from talking college football now to the high school standpoint, speaking.
Speaker 6 (18:09):
Of lost and clueless, we bring on Kyle Edrip.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
From the That's right, Kyle Needrip joining us now on
the always busy and very active on this Friday guest line. Kyle,
there are some big ones tonight. Man, how are you
you do.
Speaker 5 (18:23):
It on purpose?
Speaker 1 (18:23):
H you we have that we have that bad Hey listen,
you said it, not me, right.
Speaker 6 (18:30):
That's right, it's my voice, so I'm to blame, that's right.
Uh yeah, big games. It's a it's a really kind
of a rivalry week, so to speak, with the Mudsock
game tonight and uh yeahs. By the way, right, Brownsburg
and Avon and the uh Tenners County game, shoot Hard
and Cathedral. Uh, you know, you kind of go down
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the list. There's quite a few of those type of
games tonight, you know. So it'll be it'll be fun night,
a lot of good a lot of good games, a
little bit hotter than it's been the first few weeks,
so kind of a throwback to August.
Speaker 5 (19:05):
It feels like tonight, So it'll be it'll be fun.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
You know. There are always in college football, there's always
a weekend that they call separation Saturday, right where it's
you know, that you really find out who's for real
and who's not. In high school football, are there any
games tonight that you look at Kyle and you say,
and there's one that I have in mind, but I'm
not going to lead the witness here a game that
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you look at it and say, these are two teams
or programs that we always assume are good, but perhaps
tonight is where we really find out the separation between
the two. Any games jump out.
Speaker 6 (19:40):
One I'm curious about is Carmel and Louisvill Trinity because
Carmel has been so good these first few weeks, and
then you know, we always know Louisville Trinity's, you know,
one of the best teams in the Midwest, and their
rank number one in six A in Kentucky. So going
on the road to play that game, I think will
give us an even better you know, even though they're
out of state and normally I go the opposite away.
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I think that of state games are sort of like,
you know, we don't know who these teams are, but
so it's hard to have a measuring stick. Louisville Turney
sort of the opposite. We pretty much know every year
and they play a lot of in state teams anyway,
So I think that'll be a great test, especially to
go away and try to win that game. And I
noticed all the Kentucky people were picking Trinity and there
in their predictions, so you know, it would be maybe
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a slight upset if Karmela could do it, but but
another great test for them. I think that'll be, you know,
one of the more interesting games. You know, there's probably
some others or maybe another one you're thinking of as well,
but I think there's there's a few that way, but
that's probably the one I was. You know, Yeah, there's
there's a lot I HC. Fishers will tell us a
lot too, but but that one kind of stuck out
to me a little bit, like, oh, how good is Carmel.
Speaker 5 (20:45):
I think we'll we'll find out tonight.
Speaker 3 (20:46):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
Then the one that to me I'm curious about because
there are two programs that historically you always think are
great programs. And you could look at the record of
Ben Davis and say it's a down here for Ben Davis,
but then you look at who they played, and for me,
it's like, I still want to see one more test
and they're going to get it tonight with center Grove. Now,
is there a clear disparity between these two teams.
Speaker 6 (21:08):
Yeah, although center Grove is battling some injuries situated. They
lost to Drake mccluy, who deserved their standout receiver I know,
you know, running back they've got an injury as well,
So there's a little bit of you know, I do
think Center Grove is the better, more experienced team this year,
and their their record so far and what they've done
so far kind of bears that out. Ben Davis is
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a little bit. They're definitely young. I mean they're starting
at freshman quarterback at six a which is which is
hard to do. Uh So, I yeah, and also the
you know, sort of the the news this week with
the Mick bringing back Center Grove and carmelsk sort of
the even though this doesn't count as a conference game,
it's it's a reminder that these teams will be conference
teams again. Center Grove and Ben Davis and obviously two
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of the two of the premier football programs traditionally, uh
in the state they've played some. I've covered a lot
of the games between these teams in the in the
past that they have been very memorable. So cool that
they're back in the same conference again. But I think
Center Grove's probably the the you know right now is
the better team. But yeah, Ben Davis will Uh they're
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not going to go anywhere, you know, and I guarantee
by the end of the season, they're going to.
Speaker 5 (22:16):
Be a team don't want to don't want to play.
Speaker 6 (22:18):
Was that a Metropolitan interstill Lastic conference decision or was
that a Carmel and Center Grove decision to go back?
Speaker 5 (22:26):
I mean it was mutual. I mean, everybody has to
agree on that, and you know, I think between.
Speaker 6 (22:33):
You know, gosh, I had a lot of conversations with people,
you know, even off the on end, off the record,
I guess about you know, kind of three and a
half years ago, what has happened in the time since then.
And you know, I think it's for the betterment of
both Carmel and Center Grove. In the Mick, you know,
when you only have six teams, you know, just you
you you're down a cup. You know, you want to
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have a conference, you want to have probably eight teams
is ideal, and you got two teams sitting out there
as independents that are having a hard I'm scheduling and
getting down to the middle school. You know, having just
to travel and do those things in middle school is
not ideal. So you know, I think it was mutual,
you know, and the Mick wouldn't have voted in that
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in favor of it if they didn't want to have
those schools back. So I think it's for everybody's benefit.
And you know, definitely had been hearing some things throughout
the summer that probably led to led you to think
this could happen eventually. And you know, I think for
the betterment of everybody. I think it's going to be good,
you know, to have them back in the mix. So
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but yeah, I think it's I think it's both.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
One of the games. Uh, you know, I mentioned each
week Crystal House is the team that I'm going to
spotlight each and every week because it's you know, a
smaller group of kids that are working hard. They've got
Crispus Addicts tonight, that's a seven o'clock kick. I wanted
to ask this, Kyle, because I think it's you know,
I've always enjoyed these schools, and that is among the
IPS schools, the one that so far through you know,
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the first I guess, gosh, hard to believe already quarter
of the season, but uh, the team that jumps out
at you where you say, you know what from an
IPS school, that that might be the best one so
far this year.
Speaker 6 (24:11):
Yeah, I think Addicts is probably that team. And they're
you know, kind of some you know, they're going to
have a new stadium they're going to be playing in
pretty soon, or refurbished stadium that looks pretty cool that
you know, it's a long time coming for sure.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
Yeah, they had a lot of problems with the literally
the foundation of the stands, right, weren't they having like
you know, I mean it needed. In other words, this
wasn't like just some cosmetic lets. I mean, this was
a necessary upgrade for them.
Speaker 6 (24:38):
You literally couldn't watch games there anymore, you know, you couldn't,
you know, it was that bad. I went over I
did a story in one of their h one of
their girl shot putters discus throwers.
Speaker 5 (24:47):
He's one of the best in the state.
Speaker 6 (24:48):
And you know, I was just over there, you know,
kind of looking around at it, and it was just,
you know, so much needed to be done. I'm glad,
you know, they it's finally happening, and it's going to
be a good Uh, it's gonna look great, you know,
when it's all completed. But yeah, I was looking at
their schedule. You know, they lost to Lutheran week one,
a very competitive game that that Lutheran ended up pulling
away and winning. But you know, then they beat Tech
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and Tinley the last two weeks and then going down.
I was looking next week, you know, Purdue Poly. Uh,
they both could be undefeated next week playing each other.
That that'd be two four and oh teams. And then
you look at the rest of the schedule and I'm
not sure there's another game. You know, I think they
could maybe now and be you know, potentially eight and
one going into the sectional, which is you know, they're
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in four A, which is tough. You know, you're the
acted schools. They don't have the overall numbers of players
a lot of these four A teams do usually, but
so you're battling an uphill battle against schools like Ron
Collage and Shatard in that same sectional.
Speaker 5 (25:43):
But if you can go.
Speaker 6 (25:44):
Eight and one, you know, that kind of shows you know,
Addicts is definitely get their program going in the right direction.
They've been very competitive these last probably three or four years. Uh,
you know, so it's it's been a it's been a
program on the upswing. But yeah, you're looking at what
they've done so far, I think they're probably the team
that stands out the most.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
So tonight, Kyle will be at the MUDSOT game, that
is the Hamblton County rivalry game between Hamilton Southeastern and Fishers.
And if I'm not mistaken, Kyle, even when in years
that there has been like maybe you know, seemingly on
paper a disparity between these two teams, this game almost
always comes down to a crazy finish, doesn't it.
Speaker 6 (26:22):
Oh Man, So many times. It's just every almost every
time I've covered it, it's been like an overtime or
a play at the goal line, or you know, something
wild that you know happened. I can't imagine it won't
be that late tonight.
Speaker 5 (26:36):
It's one of the unique games just you know, you
don't have.
Speaker 6 (26:39):
A lot of district you know, especially at this size
of school. You know, teams, kids that went to school together.
You know, it's basically like brothers playing against each other
in a lot of ways. So yeah, it's gonna you know,
it's almost always comes down to the wire. The crowds
are enormous every year, and I think it used to
be weak two and they pushed it back a couple
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of weeks.
Speaker 5 (26:59):
But it's yeah, it's.
Speaker 6 (27:01):
Always one of the best games on the schedule. The
red versus the blue, and the colors of the stadiums
really neat too, So yeah.
Speaker 5 (27:08):
It'll be a great game.
Speaker 6 (27:09):
I can't imagine it won't be a field goal cut
type game either way, or touchdown game either way. You know,
they're both competitive this year anyway. But it's just the nature,
you know, like you said, the nature of this series.
It's almost always a crazy close game.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
High school football in Indiana. I'm telling you it's it's
pretty awesome. And between the kids, the local communities, the support,
the lights. I love all of it. And Kyle Needdenrymple
will have all of it covered. Kyle appreciate the time
as always. All right, enjoy the games tonight.
Speaker 5 (27:38):
All right, guys, Thanks Jake.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
Kyle joining us from the Indianapol Star. I get the impression.
I have no idea. I've never met this next individual.
I watched them play a lot of football, and that
was a team and an era that I was covering.
Perdue and Tim Stratton was a fabulous player for the
boiler Makers. A three time first team All Big Time performer.
He was the inaugural John Mackey Award winner for the
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best tight end in college football. He caught passes not
only from Drew Brees but Kyle Orton. He climbed a
goalpost once. I have no idea, but I'm gonna guess
Tim Stratton probably is a Green Day fan. I don't
know why I think that. I just think that Tim
Stratton joining us on the program. He will be honored
along with his Rose Bowl teammates tomorrow at rass aid
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for Purdue and USC factor fiction Tim Stratton, Tim likes
Green Day.
Speaker 7 (28:30):
Tim used to like Green Day until they got political.
Then I stopped.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
Yes, So college Tim Stratton liked Green Day.
Speaker 3 (28:39):
Correct, correct, that is correct.
Speaker 7 (28:41):
I was a fan.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
Okay, fair enough now if it makes you feel any better.
And you and I have never met, but college Jake
had an internship in New York City and met this
chick and like thought, everything was going great. And then
in nineteen ninety four and she told me that her
boyfriend's band was coming for the weekend so she couldn't
get together. And it turns out our boyfriend's man was
in Green Day. So Jake also used to like Green
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Day and no longer does.
Speaker 3 (29:06):
That's awesome, that's awesome. That's that's fair.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
Right, Yeah, hey, let's get to this, and that is
you know, there's when I think back to this team
that's going to be honored tomorrow and that Rose Bowl team.
You know, we talked to Seth Morales yesterday and the
Holy Toledo play against Ohio State and it just was
such a fun group to watch play. And now you
get a chance to go back and be honored for
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the twenty fifth anniversary. First off, does it feel like
twenty five years ago?
Speaker 7 (29:37):
There's there's times where it does and times where it does,
and I guess it depends on how my back fields
when I get up in the morning.
Speaker 8 (29:42):
But you know, it's it's going to be great to a.
Speaker 7 (29:45):
Lot of the guys that are that are coming back in.
I now have you know my daughters that are been
active in sports. I have a collegiate volleyball player now.
So I told the guys that when I was coming in,
I go, you know, I'll be watching the game on
the field, but I will also probably be watching my
daughter's game on my phone at the same time. So
you know, it's just a different stagmic now for a
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lot of us.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
Okay, your daughter's a volleyball player.
Speaker 7 (30:09):
Where Youngstown State University.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
Oh that's cool. Speaking of which Horizon League, by the way,
based right here in Indy. And you know, I'll tell
you Tim, volleyball is amazing because first off, you know
they've got a professional team now here in Indy. That
is a sport that you want to talk about like momentum.
I would imagine you, and you tell me if I'm
wrong here, I would imagine Tim Stratton gets more on
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edge and nervous watching volleyball than he ever did lining
up as a football player.
Speaker 7 (30:40):
Absolutely, And I actually was a volleyball player in Illinois
coming out of high schools.
Speaker 8 (30:47):
Recruited to play football and basketball.
Speaker 7 (30:48):
And volleyball in college, and I ended up choosing football
because you know, it just happened. But I love the sport.
I love the fact my daughters were in it. My
middle one is the one that completely focused on it
and really worked their butt off to get to a
scholarship for college. And I'm just really proud of her.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
So let's talk about what it was if you had
those options, you know, and you were part of Joe
Tiller's first recruiting class at Purdue. If I'm not mistaken,
What was it about Purdue initially and Joe Tiller that
drew Tim Stratton out of Oakbrook, Illinois to West Lafayette.
Speaker 7 (31:23):
The fact that coach brought eight of his coaches to
my house. We sat around my parents' dining room table
and Coach was He asked me what I wanted to
do or you know, what I wanted to major, and
I said history.
Speaker 8 (31:35):
He goes, all right.
Speaker 7 (31:36):
One was Purdue founded and I had no clue when
Purdue was founding it because the only thing I knew
about Purdue was Mike Golfend and you know, maybe the astronast.
That was about the only thing I knew back then.
Obviously no social media, and the games were ever on TV.
It was always the Minnesota game that was like fifty
eight to forty eight or you know, they were always
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high scoring games. So but you know the fact that
they showed up Coach Corporates, the old quarterbacks coach that
was supposed to come with he passed away that summer
before we got there, so eight of the nine assistants
were there.
Speaker 8 (32:10):
And it really made a huge impact.
Speaker 7 (32:11):
On me and my family and just really fell them
up with the offense and the potential they knew. I
was obviously one hundred and ninety five pound wide receiver
in high school. But they said, listen, our tight end
at Wyoming last year called eighty balls. Do you want
to be like that or do you want to be
a slow receiver somewhere else? I'm like, that's a good point.
So it was a good selling point. It was also
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the fact that in the Big Ten at that time,
there were a bunch of coaches coming in, and Tiller's
staff was the only coach.
Speaker 8 (32:40):
Tiller was the only one that brought his entire staff
with him.
Speaker 7 (32:43):
Everyone else was putting the other of their staffs, you know,
Cam Cameron at IU, Turner Illinois, Mason of Minnesota. So
they're they're the continuity for them coming in, I thought
would be a huge benefit for myself and for the team.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
You know, my recollection of this, tim and this may
be way off, and you know, and I want to
get to you know, some of your your great games
you had and you know obviously catching balls from Drew
Brees and Kyle Orton, I mean, both great quarterbacks. You know,
there's a lot to get to there, but my recollection,
and you tell me if I'm wrong. I remember later
in your career that you were kind of a guy
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that Joe Tiller always was kind of poking is the
wrong word, but using as an example of areas that
he wanted leadership and maturity out of, and that he
pushed you harder than maybe other guys. But that's a
from outside perspective. Was there any accuracy to my assumption there?
Speaker 7 (33:38):
Yeah, there was some to it. I also was unfortunately
immature and childish and kind of a creature of the moment,
and so you know, not necessarily looking at long term,
but more the short term and you know, instant gratification
kind of. I guess now this younger generation, I guess
I'm in the wrong generation. But yeah, I just I
wanted to have fun. And you know, we always had
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Drew to tell media that what the school wanted them
to hear, and then you had me that told the truth.
So it was many many tune lashings from not only
Coach but all my parents and you know, Timmy would
just shut up, like.
Speaker 8 (34:13):
Just stop stop saying what you're saying. I'm like, well,
I'm not lying, you know.
Speaker 7 (34:18):
So it's uh uh.
Speaker 8 (34:20):
You know, having a little bit of koth was.
Speaker 7 (34:22):
Not something I had back then.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
So what was your relationship with Joe Tiller?
Speaker 7 (34:28):
Coach and I got along great. We I know publicly
it didn't look like we did, but we actually got
along great. I mean I considered him and Jim Cheney
is kind of like my other two dads and Coach
hope to be honest with you, so the uh, but
we we got along great. You know, we did have
our moments where, you know, publicly when I lost my
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helmet or you know all that jazz is the Michigan game.
You know, we had a few little run ins, I
would say, but all in all we got along great.
Speaker 1 (34:59):
And by the way, way because I do have to
ask about it. So you guys beat Michigan, You climb
up the goalposts and then somebody swipes your helmet. Right now, now,
how all did this go down? For those that are
unfamiliar with the story, enlighten us with the detail.
Speaker 7 (35:13):
All right, So Travis makes the game winning field goal.
We win the game. Myself and Brandon Goran was a
monthly native. We were gonna.
Speaker 8 (35:22):
We tried to go across.
Speaker 7 (35:23):
The field to say hi, to hide a buddy from
Chicago that was Don Michigan. So I tried to, you know,
go talking after the game, but Brandon wanted to go
talk to one of his buddies, but the.
Speaker 8 (35:33):
Crowd rushed the field.
Speaker 7 (35:34):
By the time I had lost track of Gorn, I
didn't know where he went. So by the time I
got to the north end zone goal, like you know,
end zone, just sing the fight song with the band,
the team was already gone, like they were rushed off
the field, and so I was like, you know what,
I thought. All these kids were around me, and I'm like,
you know, what's screw it, Let's go to the goal post.
And I handed my helmet to a kid in one
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of my classes because I recognized them in class, and
apparently so the kids were trying to lift me up,
you know, my full uniform, and he put the helmet
down to help lift me up, and that's when another
student swiped the helmet. And so after I got you know,
hanging off the goal posts, I was hanging on the
goal post, and then I got crowd served about the
fifty yard line. And when I got down from you know,
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tom that I realized that I'm I got to crap
my helmet's gun decision going to go over well. So
I tried to usher you know her quiet down the
kids that are around me and just say fifty bucks
in the case of here whoever could find my helmet,
and I sort of got you saw every kid like
looking all over pretty pretty powerful. And then by the
time I got to the locker room, the team had
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already like coach already spoke the team like most of
the guys were showered already out of the locker room
so I'm like, all right, well, I guess I don't
have my helmet. And so Sunday's practice we would practice
on Sundays and off on Mondays. I had a backup
helmet that it was, you know, given to me. And
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Sunday night I would write a diary for ABC sports
dot Com that year, that season, and so I wrote
in the diary or the in my uh yeah, in
the diary, I submitted it to our sid, who then
submits to SI you know.
Speaker 2 (37:17):
To publish it.
Speaker 7 (37:18):
And so I wrote in there, if anyone has any
whereabouts my helmet, I will give you the game ball
from the Michigan game. And so we got all these
calls we got, I mean, back then we only had
call our ID that was like the new thing back then.
And so we got all these random pulcro numbers that
you know, we'd get in the car and drive over
to you know, someone would say at this house and
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at that house, and like idiots, we just drove all
over looking for it. And because Taylor had threatened to
suspend me the following week against Northquestern which for me
was like a home game, you know, back up here
in Chicago.
Speaker 8 (37:50):
So Sunday practice.
Speaker 7 (37:53):
Have the backup Monday, we're off Tuesday. I wear the
backup helmet Wednesday, backup helmet. Thursday's practice. I did the
locker room and the backup helmet's.
Speaker 8 (38:02):
Gone, and I'm like, gosh, you know, crap.
Speaker 7 (38:05):
I looked at Metrion, I looked at Vannie. I looked
at the usual suspects right that light. I looked at
the guys i'd know would mess with me. I'm like,
who took it? And all of them were like, we
didn't do it, we didn't take it. So I went
to the manager, the our equipment manager, Mike Shandrick, and
I'm like, hey, Mikey, where's my where's my other helmet?
Speaker 8 (38:20):
He's like, coach told us to take it away. I'm
like all right.
Speaker 7 (38:24):
So Thursday's practice he was like a shelf practice where
it's shoulder pad helmets and dieboards. So I went out
there and just my shoulder pads and.
Speaker 8 (38:31):
My you know shorts and tiewards.
Speaker 7 (38:33):
With no helmet, you know, start getting in the stretch
lines and seller comes walking up to me and he's like, hey,
where's your where's your helmet?
Speaker 8 (38:40):
I said, coach, you know, DM wore, well, where my
helmet is you had it taken away? He's like, I
told you you don't get your homet back. You're playing.
Speaker 7 (38:48):
And I said, coach, that's BS. I said, Thunderboy, which
is my nickname for Drew. I said, wonder boy. I
had his helmet take it two years ago after a
bowl practice.
Speaker 8 (38:57):
No one said a word.
Speaker 7 (38:58):
But I'm the jerk tickets know his helmetaking, and I'm
you know, now I'm the one being suspended.
Speaker 8 (39:02):
I go, that's not fair. I use some other words.
But we're on public radios.
Speaker 7 (39:06):
So.
Speaker 2 (39:08):
Yes.
Speaker 7 (39:08):
And so he's like, I didn't know about that. I'm
like coaching everyone. I just knew about it. You know,
it is what it is, So lo and behold my backup.
Homet comes back, you know, comes out to the field.
I put it out in practice. And then that night
my one of our roommates answered the phone at like
in the morning and Alex tone from Lane and he
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some kid called from like a computer lab, a compute
Fordue University computer labs. That's how it pops up on
the collar, I d which is smart on that kid's part.
So you know, we were trying to track down whoever
took it, and he just said, listen, can you please
give Tim Stratton a you know, a message let him
know his helmet is where he leftive underneath the north
end zone gold post. So Alex said, sure, hung up.
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The kid called back fifteen minutes later say please, can
you just repeat what I had the message I need
to get to Tim, and Alex like, sure, the gold
polls great, hung up.
Speaker 8 (40:01):
Well, Apparently the kid broke into the stadium.
Speaker 7 (40:04):
Put the helmet underneath the north end zone goldfuss where
he found it, and it had a letter in it
which stated, dear mister Stratton, I hope this helmet brings
you as much pleasure and has brought me these past
few days and something else.
Speaker 8 (40:17):
But my sick mind was just thinking, what did.
Speaker 7 (40:20):
You do with it? And right, you know, like you know,
being an eighteen, nineteen.
Speaker 8 (40:25):
Twenty year old kid, that's immediately what I thought.
Speaker 7 (40:28):
And it turns out that he had called also called
Coach Killer's office and left the message with Carlita, our secretary,
and so the managers went in that that morning, you know,
took the helmet apart to detected.
Speaker 8 (40:39):
It, put it back together, and I was able to
play the rest of the season with it. And now
that helmet doesn't doesn't leave me.
Speaker 1 (40:44):
So where did you know that? Did you ever find
out who the kid was? Did you give him a
kay Sa beer?
Speaker 8 (40:49):
You know what I did? Not what I did?
Speaker 7 (40:51):
He sent like a couple of buddies or at least
they claimed to be his friends, because they wanted the
game ball from the Michigan.
Speaker 8 (40:58):
Game, because that's what that was my reward.
Speaker 7 (41:00):
And uh so I ended up taking a practice ball
and had a couple of the walk on you know,
sign it and give it to the kid and then like, screw.
Speaker 3 (41:08):
You, you know what I mean, Like you're okay, all right?
Speaker 7 (41:11):
If you're not, if you're not going to be a
man enough to like come and at least say, hey,
it's my fault.
Speaker 8 (41:15):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 7 (41:17):
But it turns out that the I found out from
his friend that the kid when he took the helmet,
he went home, it was Paul breaked and he lived
a couple hours away, so he gave the helmet to
his little brother, and so it took him a couple
of days to get back to you know, grab it
and bring it back to school. So that that was
the delay, But nonetheless it was me being stupid so.
Speaker 1 (41:36):
Here's that thing though. Look, and I get the fact
that like from a now that we are adults, right,
you got to look back and say, you know, that
was immature and whatever else. But but let's be real
here in the moment, the crowdsurfing had to be pretty awesome.
Speaker 8 (41:49):
Oh it was great.
Speaker 7 (41:50):
I mean when I met with Chiller on Sunday, uh uh,
he called me into his off and he's like, hey,
how did a hundred guys get off the field with
their their helmet? And you're the the idiot that that didn't?
I go, coach, I got you know, it was mobbed.
You know, the kids were all over. And he pulls
up a picture of one of the newspapers and it
shows me crowdsurfing holding throw flags like in my hands,
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and he's like, really, I go, all right, you got me, like,
you know, my bad. So I couldn't lie my way
out of that one, but I definitely tried.
Speaker 1 (42:22):
Hey, what's your relationship now with you know, just your
teammates in general? And you know, I think you were
you're obviously kind of a fun loving teammate, but you know,
Drew Brees, for example, who you caught a lot of
balls from and you guys had a great on field relationship.
What's the relationship now? And who are you looking forward
to seeing this weekend?
Speaker 7 (42:41):
You know, I'm looking forward to seeing all the guys.
You know, I still talk with you know, that recruiting class.
We were Tiller's first class, myself, true, Ben Smith, Jason Borzelle,
Vinny Matrio Own. You know, we had a real good
group of guys.
Speaker 8 (42:56):
And I think what.
Speaker 7 (42:57):
Really like Gelda with us was the fact that we
were ranked the tenth out of the eleven Big Ten
recruiting classes. And I think that helped that motivated us
to say, you know what, Tom Lemon, you don't know anything.
Speaker 8 (43:09):
You know, all these other.
Speaker 7 (43:09):
People I don't even know back then move they were,
But we're going.
Speaker 2 (43:13):
To prove you wrong.
Speaker 7 (43:14):
We're going to come in and play this basketball and
grass and it was. It was a fun group. We're
all still really tight, which is good. I mean, you know,
we're all busy now with our own kids and working
everything else, but when we have an opportunity to get together,
it's sure is nice to see everyone.
Speaker 1 (43:30):
Tim Stratton, our guest the tight End, who was the
inaugural winner of the John mackew Ward given out to
college football's best tight end. The reigning owner of that
title is Tyler Warren, who is with the Colts and
will be with them Sunday against the Broncos at Lucas
Oil Stadium. He won the award last year at Penn State.
How much Tim do you follow still like college football
(43:52):
and for that matter, of the NFL today, and if so,
your impressions of Tyler Warren.
Speaker 8 (43:58):
I think he's all of the player.
Speaker 7 (44:00):
I actually am on the voting committee for the Matthew Award,
so I he was definitely my top tack. Kim then
Colston Love and Loveland the Bears a tight endow. But
I really enjoyed watching Tyler play. Ironically, my fifth year
at Purdue. When I stayed for my fifth year, I was.
Speaker 8 (44:19):
The third street quarterback.
Speaker 7 (44:20):
So if the two freshmen went down, Brandon Hanson Kyle Orton,
I was the emergency quarterback. So it was because I
knew the offense and I could throw the wall. So
it was kind of a irony that you know, our
latest winner could play quarterback, running back.
Speaker 8 (44:35):
You mean, he could do it all.
Speaker 7 (44:36):
He's just a hell of an athlete, and I'm happy
the Colts took him and he's I think he's gonna
have a great kind of all career.
Speaker 1 (44:43):
Yeah, he's a heck of a player. And you're right,
you can kind of you love any guy. I mean
Tim Stratton. He is an old school dude. I mean,
Shane Steichen said, just an old school baller. And you
got to kind of see a little of yourself in that,
like you just talked about, right, just the ability to
be versatile like that. It really does feel throwback, doesn't it.
Speaker 8 (45:03):
It does, it does, and it's great.
Speaker 7 (45:05):
It's it was really fun to watch him play. He
was definitely a different difference maker for Penn State and
I think he's gonna do wonderful.
Speaker 8 (45:13):
Things for the Colts.
Speaker 1 (45:14):
Okay, lastly, for this game Purdue and USC, you often watch,
I know you said, you know, you've got your daughter
playing at Youngsound State, and you got kids, and you
got a lot going on. But for Purdue football, just
your overall impressions are what you would like to see,
other than the obvious, which is a win against USC
and what is now a new era for Purdue football.
Speaker 7 (45:34):
It's crazy to me that this is considered a Big
Ten game. To be honest, I we knowing because we
played them in ninety eight and the Kickoff Classic out
at the Coliseum and so it was.
Speaker 8 (45:45):
It's just so weird for it.
Speaker 7 (45:46):
But nonetheless, I think it's going to be. I hope
it's going to be a great game. I'm hoping our
I know, offensively, their first two games, I think they're
one of the highest averaging offenses in the country right now,
scoring wise, I'm really hoping to get the defense concitle
their offense. And I'd like to see Ryan Brown throw
the ball more. I'd like to see the tight ends
be more involved in the offense. And then Devin Makiby,
(46:09):
I think is you know, he could be a difference
maker tomorrow depending on how our offensive line performs.
Speaker 1 (46:17):
By the way, since you guys played in the Rose Bowl,
I mean you mentioned playing at USC then obviously you
play Washington in the Rose Bowl. That's what you guys
are going to be honored for coming up tomorrow. I
just went to the Rose Bowl, not for a football game.
I went to a concert there last weekend and I
had never been in the Rose Bowl. I mean, obviously
the Rose Bowl is so iconic and I mentioned this
and I want you Tim Stratton to basically to have
(46:39):
my back here. Fabulous venue, historic, beautiful setting, beautiful sunset,
beautiful mountains in the background. A terrible and I know
you were on the field and you were not up
in the stands, but maybe, like friends or family told
you this, presumably everybody when that stadium was built was
five foot six and one hundred and ten pounds. That
is the most I have to dump. Ever, I believe that. Yeah,
(47:03):
my family did say that. I mean I'm the biggest
in my family, but my.
Speaker 7 (47:08):
Brothers that were there, my sister, my uncles.
Speaker 8 (47:10):
You know, they're all about six feet tall. So but
they did say that.
Speaker 7 (47:15):
I thought the the stadium was cool. From obviously the
field perspective, I wish our outcome could have been a
lot different than we would have thrown the.
Speaker 8 (47:22):
Ball a hell of a lot more than we did.
Speaker 7 (47:24):
But it was really uh And our Purdue fans traveled
so well.
Speaker 8 (47:28):
I mean they are.
Speaker 7 (47:30):
I mean I still get people that I run into
from work that are like we were at the Rose Bowl.
I mean, it was there was huge rallies there. There
were so many fans out there. And what's funny is
a lot of people in like the La area where
Cassidy in the area thought Purdue was a an.
Speaker 8 (47:45):
Ivy League school. They literally we'd go the guys whould.
Speaker 7 (47:47):
Go out and you know, we have a drink or something,
and then bartenders would be like, are you an Ivy
League school?
Speaker 8 (47:51):
Like what are you doing out here? We're like, no,
we're big ten.
Speaker 7 (47:54):
But obviously nobody from Produ's been out here since nineteen
sixty seven.
Speaker 8 (47:58):
So but it was a great experience. I really enjoyed it.
Speaker 7 (48:03):
I wish I wouldn't snapped the ball over the punter's
head the one time, but you know, than it was fun.
Speaker 1 (48:07):
Yeah, okay, fair enough, Tim Stratton, listen, soak it all in.
Have fun this weekend. You know, if they beat USC,
feel free to climb the goalpost, CrowdSurf, do whatever you
want to do.
Speaker 3 (48:19):
Right.
Speaker 7 (48:21):
Yeah, this tit, though, I might get arrested, so I
don't know if that's I don't know if that's worth it,
but you know, maybe maybe Purdue Caps will be nice.
Speaker 1 (48:28):
By the way, do you know what your Purdue was founded?
Speaker 8 (48:33):
Was it eighteen sixty eight?
Speaker 1 (48:35):
I think I'm looking this up.
Speaker 3 (48:37):
I'm looking this up.
Speaker 7 (48:38):
Ooh, I know eighteen eighty nine.
Speaker 1 (48:40):
I can't eighteen sixty nine. Basically, I'm may give it
to you. That's good May sixth of eighteen sixty nine, right,
And I'm sure you probably looked that up after. Of
course you couldn't google it when Joe Tiller came in.
But nonetheless, you know what I mean.
Speaker 7 (48:52):
Oh, no, gosh, no, you know that's but coach loved
to like I said, if if you said you wanted
to do something or you were going to do something,
he called out on it. So which I appreciated everything
he said, even though at the time I didn't as
an adult and as a parent, as a coach, I
appreciate everything that all the coaches you know, taught us,
and so I try to use that when you know,
(49:15):
with parenting, with coaching, with you know, everyday life.
Speaker 1 (49:18):
What do you do now, by the way, you mentioned coaching,
what is life like for Tim Stratton?
Speaker 7 (49:22):
Now, you know I used to coach high school football.
I coached Division III football for a couple of years,
then I coached high school. Then I went to grade
school when my nephews were playing. Then I went back
to high school, and then now I've stopped because my
kids got busy.
Speaker 8 (49:36):
So you know, I like to actually go watch my
own kids.
Speaker 7 (49:39):
And then I've also.
Speaker 8 (49:41):
I'm a director of business development for an.
Speaker 7 (49:43):
Electrical contracting firm up here in Chicago, And so I
mean I used to have a little more freedom with coaching,
But now that I decided to step away and actually
watch my own kids, I miss it.
Speaker 8 (49:56):
But I don't miss it because.
Speaker 7 (49:57):
I think the generations are a little different now, meaning
my personality and coaching personality is more like how I
was coached, right, how these kids are.
Speaker 1 (50:07):
Now totally different era. Yes, that is correct.
Speaker 2 (50:09):
Oh my god.
Speaker 7 (50:10):
You know I'm not afraid to call a kid out
in front of people, and a lot of these kids,
you know, they can't take that anymore.
Speaker 8 (50:18):
You know, the kids that want to.
Speaker 7 (50:19):
Do well and want to excel, they accept it and
know it not meant from any other purpose of you know,
trying to hurt them. It's trying to help them improve.
But you know, you got a lot of these parents
that are living vicariously through their kids, so you know
they want to be involved in everything.
Speaker 1 (50:32):
So I trust me, I totally get it. Totally get it.
Speaker 5 (50:36):
Tim.
Speaker 1 (50:36):
We appreciate it. Man, Boiler up and enjoy it this weekend.
Speaker 3 (50:39):
All right?
Speaker 8 (50:40):
Thanks? So much.
Speaker 7 (50:41):
Really appreciate you having me on
Speaker 1 (50:42):
Tim Stratt and joining us on the program.
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