October 20, 2025 • 51 mins
Today’s Best of Features:
(00:00-15:10) – The voice of IU football (and basketball), Don Fischer, makes his weekly visit on Query & Company to recap another dominating win for Indiana. Don compares what he has seen from IU this season to what Ohio State, Michigan, and Alabama have done in the last ten years to their opponents. Don comments on the energy and confidence that Fernando Mendoza brings to the Hoosiers offense compared to Kurtis Rourke from a season ago.
(15:10-38:39) – The Dean, Mike Chappell, from CBS4 and FOX59 joins the show to share his thoughts on the Indianapolis Colts improving to 6-1 after yesterday’s win over the Chargers. He believes that the team needs to make a trade for a corner before pass rusher, doesn’t have a preference to acquiring a player that is a rental or has multiple years left on his contract, and highlights the one thing he has a hard time believing if the Colts make it in the playoffs.
(38:39-51:21) – The South Bend Tribune’s Tom Noie joins the program to discuss what he has seen from afar from IU compared to last season when Notre Dame ended the Hoosiers season. Tom evaluates how CJ Carr has performed this season, believes that Alabama is flying underneath the radar as a CFP contender, has a feeling that Notre Dame will be hosting another first round CFP game like last season, and accesses the future of Marcus Freeman at Notre Dame.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's Monday, it's twelve thirty.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
It's fish.
Speaker 1 (00:03):
There's a throw by bed Doza wine open this time
it is surround ten yard line, five yard line touch.
This time that did the klan.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
Tackle to.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Fernando looks, looks fires down the middle of.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
The Feeli's don a man, It's over. It's a tough down.
Fernando fires us friend to the Endzon and it is coming.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Another tremendous grab for a tough town fire like this
surround the Voice of the Hoosiers, Don Fisher joining Query
in company on ninety three five and one oh seven
five the fan.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Let me tell you how you know that everything is
running fabulously for your college football team. It goes without
saying that when you are unblemished that things are going well.
It goes without saying when you're quarterback that things are
going well, and it goes without saying that you are
ranked number two in the country things are going well.
(01:00):
But the ultimate tell tale may be when you turn
on the football broadcast, as you could do on this
radio station, and you hear the play by play analyst
and the color analysts before the game discussing whether or
not the Bison mascot actually condunk and or ride a Harley.
When you hear that, you say to yourself, this means
everything is perfect in Hoo's your land. Don Fisher, the
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voice of the Hoosiers, joins us, Now that's a pretty
fair assessment, is it not, Don?
Speaker 4 (01:28):
Pretty good? Pretty good?
Speaker 2 (01:32):
It makes me laugh.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
However, it was cracking me up because Shannon and I
are listening to the game and you guys were breaking
down like the vertical leap and or the size of
the bison, and listen, Don, and then the game gets underway,
and you know, I was just saying it. I think
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at times over the course of a game. You know,
Kurt Signetti an inner, you know, you know this obviously,
and talking to him, he is at times so concise
and so direct on what he wants and what he
expects in a game, and he can just fire off
the cliches like that, right, And then you watch his
team though, and it truly carries the character and the
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message of the coach. Because I am just still pinching
myself over the efficiency of Indiana, both on offense and defense.
I just don I don't know that I've seen a team,
and I don't mean this to blow the smoke, but
I just don't know that I've seen a team that
plays as smart and as efficient as I've seen from Indiana.
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Does this remind you of other programs that you've seen
or other teams over the years.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
It does. I mean, when you think about that kind
of efficiency, that kind of the way they go about things,
And I don't want to compare it to who I'm
going to compare it to, but it does remind me
of the Ohio States and the Michigan of the past.
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Not necessarily now so much, but of the past of
the teams I watched on television. The Alabama's those type
of ball clubs, and I'm not saying that Indiana is
in that category yet, but it looks like that. It
looks like, Man, these guys are good, they really are.
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They do the things their coach is asking them to do.
It's got disciplined, it's got toughness, it's got all those
things that coach Signetti talks about at this juncture, and
it looks so good, not just the average fan, but
to guys that are experts. Urban Meyers said, this is
the best coach team in the country, and he said
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that recently. So I'm all I can tell you at
this juncture is that what we're seeing at Indiana University
is historic in just about every way you can think of.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
And don when you look at the roster and I know, look,
you know Sarat is a phenomenal player. And it goes
without saying I mean what Mendoza is doing again, efficient
is the word that keeps coming to mind. But when
I look at just the totality of Indiana football, I
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wonder this, how much of this is because he's been
able to get guys to buy in Because I'm not
saying all and I mean it is no disrespect to
the previous stops for some of them, but there's like
this chip on the shoulder right of that Signetti himself
kind of has of like, yeah, I might have been
at JMU, but you know what, like I just went
Google me and and all of these guys are buying
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into it. How has he been able to get guys
to put the team accomplishment above personal accomplishment when they
when some of these guys have had personal vendetta against reputation.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
Well, in my opinion, the reason he's able to do
that with players is because he researches players. He researches
what these guys are like, what kind of character do
they have, what's their performance been like when they have
been out there in the field. We're talking about portal
guys now, but he does the same thing with high
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school kids who he recruits. He's looking at this at
the total picture of a player, not just in the
sense of his physical prowess or how he has played
from a talent perspective. He's also looking at the guy internally.
If you know what I'm saying, what this kid's mindset is,
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how's he approaching coming to Indiana? Is money the most
important thing? You know, all those kinds of factors that
now coaches have to look into and if they don't.
If they don't, they're not going to get the guy
they're looking for. And that requires then probably having to
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replace that guy because that guy is going to transfer,
or if you're if you if you want to continue
to play with him, does he fit the mold of
what you're trying to build with your program. So there
are so many factors involved in this thing right now,
but more than anything else, what Signetti looks for is
character first, and then the other things and I couldn't
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put him in the order that perhaps he would, but
all the things we talked about at this point, it
gives you some idea of why this team looks like
it does right now because he has built this team,
constructed this team through his research.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
Don I literally feel like I need to say this
and then run like out of the building, okay, because
I get it from me and I mean it is
the highest of compliments for Indiana. I feel like the
what Kurt Signetti has done and what you're talking about
in terms of roster build is kind of the football
equivalent of what Matt Painter doesn't perdue. And I know
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Indiana fans don't want to hear that comparison, but my
point being, and I know you think the world of
you know, Matt as a basketball coach. There just is
an ability that some coaches have. Sometimes it separates coaches
of understanding people right and just in being able to
assess people and put people together. And for Kurt Signetti
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it's worked beautifully. Obviously with Fernanda Mendoza, this is one
of them that I saw a comment afterwards for Mendoza
where I'm watching him and I'm thinking, this is the
antithesis of the stereotype of big like successful jock quarterback,
because he was this humble team first in comment guy.
(07:51):
And so I was curious how much time you have
had a chance to talk to Fernanda Mendoza and just
kind of your overall assessment of what kind of young
man he is and that is enabling him to be
and have this kind of a season. Brindiana.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Well, the truth of the matter is, I haven't spoke
to Fernando yet. I have not. I haven't had a
chance to I've literally It's not that I've been kept
away from him or he from me. It's simply that
because of the demands on him at this point, I'm
sure acting protecting him a lot from a lot of
the things that happened, and I just haven't had a
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chance to interact with him in any way, shape or form. However,
I've seen his interviews with you in the post game
scenarios and that kind of stuff where he's talked to
the rest of the media and what kind of questions
are asked and the kind of answers he's given, and
he is exactly as you as you've said, very humble,
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team first talks about how he must get in there
and look at film and how much work he does
in that regard what the coaches say about him. He's
a very coachable guy. He listens intently and he studies intently.
And so from that perspective and from the personality that
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I've seen him as Zoos in these press conferences and
so on, I'm really impressed with the kid because all
he does is talk about I've got to get better.
The things that I do sometimes are not the right thing,
so to speak. He says, I make mistakes, and I've
got to correct those mistakes. It's again, it's the character
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of the kid we're talking about here, and that's why
all of these guys are successful, because that's the kind
of kid that Kurt Signetti goes after. And when you
talk to almost any of these players, and I mean
virtually anybody that Signetti has brought on campus to be
a part of this football team, they've got the same
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type of person so to speak. Yeah, there's differences in
every kid or in every young adult that comes into IU,
but they all think the same way. They're all thinking
the same things, and he definitely demands that kind of
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thinking process when it comes to his players and if
they don't buy into it, see you later.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
Yeah. I mean it's in. You can just tell it, right,
I mean it literally is. Everybody is laser focused on
the same thing from on each play. But let me
ask you, don Don Fisher, our guests, he's on the
Joba House, Peel and poor guest line. We're talking Indiana football,
the number two ranked now Indiana Hoosiers. Lastly, Don, And
I asked this just because you know you see every
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play and you know whether between you and Bucker whoever
you talk to, is there an achilles? I mean, is
there an area with this Indiana football team that you
say to yourself, Look, this is great, but there is
still an area that I know they need to shore
up that could bite them. And it's this.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
I don't have that area, Jake. I'm not that smart.
I can just tell you I don't know what area
that would be. No, Yeah, yeah, I mean there's just
nothing I can point to. The One thing I've said,
and I've said this to you before, and I've said
it to anybody who asked me questions about Indiana right now,
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who's going to beat this team? And my answer is
a team with more talent, a lot more talent than
what Indiana has, and they've also got to be a
really good football program under their coach. So I'm not
going to sit here and say that Indiana is not
going to get beat and then that they couldn't be
upset or anything like that, because we don't know. We've
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only I mean, we've played some really good ball games
against some really good football teams at this point. And
obviously the biggest newie or new beyond that black is
the Oregon Ducks, who nobody thought, almost nobody thought could
beat Oregon at their place, and it happened a couple
of weeks ago. So at this juncture, Jake, I can't
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answer it. But one thing I do want to say,
from what you asked me earlier, you brought up Matt
Painter and his philosophy and how he goes about things.
There's not much difference you can say about these two programs.
I'm talking about the basketball Purdue and the football at
Indiana right now, and I think you're going to see
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something very similar to what we see from Matt Painter
and t Signetti and the new guy, Darren de Brees.
I really believe that.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
Yeah, and I'll tell you what that was. You know,
obviously done from the basketball standpoint, Darren de Brees has
done so far, you know, all the right things, and
certainly the players that have come in have been bought
in from what we can see so far. And I
think I'll tell you what offense, they're going to be
awfully fun to watch. You know, I don't know how
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good they'll be this particular year, but their style and
they're not afraid to shoot threes, I think they're going
to be awfully fun to watch.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Oh, They're going to be so much fun to watch
because not only do they put up a ton of frees,
and we saw that in the first exhibition game, and
you know what, they're going to be teams that try
to take that away and you won't be shooting as
many as they did in the first matchup with Marion,
which is thirty maybe fifteen. But at the same time,
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you're going to see a basketball team that I'm telling you,
Indiana fans, so get a chance to watch this IU
basketball team early in this season are going to fall
in love with them because they play the way you
should play basketball at Indiana and the way you should
play basketball any place in that regard. And that's for
really tough defense, really playing their butts off all the time,
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and they're going to compete like crazy. And you're right,
nobody really knows how good this talent level is with
this particular group. And they've got some they've got some
areas that are not as strong as some of the
teams are going to face in the Big Ten. But
I believe that they're going to compete every single night
that they play because this guy demands it.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
Don I think, if I'm not mistaken here, you've got
three or four more weeks here that you can get
in some golf. Is that about right?
Speaker 2 (14:26):
Well, we're about to we're about to enter November, of
which the golf court, the golf bag mityls will be
put in the trunk and not be used to do
until next spring. Because I just got too much going
on with football and basketball.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
Well that's what I was going to say. Is now
you're like, well, hey, that's fine, because I got a
top five football team and an up and coming basketball
team to deal with. Like it's all good, right, Life's
good for Don Fisher. That's exactly right. It can't get
much better than this Don. We appreciate the time as always,
and the Hoosiers and UCLA coming up Saturday at and
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of course you can hear that with Don on the
call as well. Appreciate it, Don, thanks for having me,
Jack she Don Fisher on the Java House, Peel and
Poor Guest Line joining us now on the Java House,
Peel and Poor Guest Line. He is the Dean of
writers when it comes to covering the Colt Sea, has
been doing so since the Mayflowers arrived. He is with
WXI in Box fifth, the NIT and CBS four Mike
(15:21):
Chappell joining us. Chapel, I will begin with this question,
and I'm a little hesitant to go this way with
it because it sounds like I'm being negative. That's not
the case at all. But with this team, you know,
they are playing at such a level that some of
the talking points are the obvious. So I'll start with this.
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Do you believe they will make a move to try
to address pass rush between now and the trade deadline?
Speaker 4 (15:48):
Yes, they have to. I mean they have to explore.
I hope it's it's serious exploration whether and we can
argue rusher or corner. I would take a pass rusher
any day, but the secondary is so depleted a secondary,
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the corners are so depleted. I in this instance, I
would probably opt for a cornerback. First of all, it's
gonna be it's probably gonna be cheaper to get you
a cornerback as far as what it will take to
give him. I know people point to Trey hendrickson the
fact that Bengals well in last week and are still
sort of in it. But boy, I'm not sure how
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you make him fit. He's got like twenty nine million dollars.
I realize that's pro rated. But and you can do
wonderful things with the salary cap. You can make it say,
you really can, but that that would be a stretch.
I hope they find a corner and not and not
a guy. I'm talking a guy you know Italics who
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can step in and play. And you know, obviously getting
a guy now there's a reason you're getting in. But
in this case, it's probably from a team that's not
in the chase, and it's a guy that's been playing
so often. You know, you bring in a free agent
the Sapien Howard, Mike Hilton to a few lesser degree,
who hasn't been playing well if you get a guy
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now he's been playing and he's let go for a
reason the team's and he's not playing well or whatever.
I I I will be surprised if they don't go
out and get a corner again, a pass rush who
would make more of a splash because it'll be a name.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
Yah.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
He Yeah. Here's the thing. I think it's a little
bit of a chicken and egg thing here. Okay, but
you can their their defensive backfield has been depleted by
injury to your point, right, and they've had to and
I think, to be honest with you, and you made
you know, I know the xavient Howard thing. You know.
But as you start to get some guys back in particular,
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and Nick Cross was picked on pre heavily yesterday, he
had that pick. But other than that, I thought they
went to him a lot. There's probably a reason that
you can say that, but you can get away with
in my opinion, and I want you, as somebody who
knows football, to tell me if you agree or disagree.
You can get away with average to slightly below average
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corner play more often than not if you are rushing
a passer into having to throw it. The longer that
a quarterback has time, the more a depletion in your
defensive backfield is exposed.
Speaker 4 (18:33):
I don't disagree. And that's why I say, and in
most cases I take a pass rusher because I should think.
You know, Dwight Freeney, Hall of Famer, he can make
three plays in a game and standing there twilling his
stumbs for fifty plays and he wins a game for you.
That's extreme, I realized. But I just think in this case,
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I thought that it's kind of crazy. I thought the
pressure was okay Sunday, uh three sacks. One of them
was late, maybe two of them are late, but I
thought they got they They moved Herbert around a little bit,
which he's really good at doing, moving up, moving side
to side. He threw the ball fifty five times. There's
you know, with that offensive line down to their fifth
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and six tackles whatever, they should have gotten to him more.
But when you're playing corners like Jonathan Edwards started a
couple of games and and he was like their fourth
corner this this this week. So and Chris Lemons, who
had the stop against McBride with the holes, didn't play
a time. And the thing is they're not going to
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get guys back anytime. So they got Kenny Moore back,
which is huge, but charge you know Mooney Ward's going
to miss four games at least with concussions. You never know.
And Jalen Jones. We've been given no indication when they
opened the twenty one day window with him. So right now,
these are your corners, and I just I just have
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enough faith that the pass freshures they got. Although now
it's saying for e Becom, you don't know with the knee,
I've been told it's not long term, but you don't know,
Taekwon Lewis with a growing you don't know. I wouldn't
mind both. I don't know that they can swing that.
But this is one and this isn't mortgage in the
future at all. This is your You're finding the guy
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probably for one year, half a year, and as long
as the compensation makes sense. And you know, I at
this point in the season, I'll give up a fifth
round pick, a sixth round pick, as eventh round pick.
I will because I think that the opportunity is there
to do something. The rest of the league is sort
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of muddling around. There's a few teams that are that
are starting to emerge, Kansas City and people like that.
But what what And now you've got a two game
lead in the AC South? Who knows what? How do
you how do you figure out what Jacksonville is? I
I don't know, but and Houston's got a tough game
coming up, So I think it makes so much sense.
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I think the only in season trade the Ballads made
was Nahem Hines. I think is when Naheim wanted requested
a trade to UH Buffalo and they got Zach Moss,
which was a good trade, a really good trade. So
I'm not a wheeler dealer, you know, the fantasy football guy,
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but I think this is this is a situation that
maybe you give up a little bit more than you
want to. But I think with it, you're just asking
the offense to do so much, you know, thirty three
points a game, and it's just it's just humming really well.
But can they do that every game? Maybe we're sitting
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here in December to the men you came either so
averaging thirty three points, but you can't be letting a
quarterback throw for four hundred yards and all that. Give
me a corner number one and then give me a
pass rus stripting flat.
Speaker 5 (22:07):
One, Mike, do you feel like the rental is the
best way to go considering where they're at with free
agents coming up after the season and Braden Smith, Daniel Jones,
Alec Pearson, nit Cross instead of you know, trying to
trade for a guy that may have a couple of
years underneath in terms of left on the contract, Well.
Speaker 4 (22:24):
You may get that. Yeah, you may get it. If
it's a younger guy. You may get a guy that's
got two more years. And the good part is is
you're getting You're getting his base salary, You're not getting
any of the signing bonus as well.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
But you probably need to get first contract guy in
that situation rights.
Speaker 4 (22:42):
If you could. But you know, if you've got a
veteran guy who's got a year to go on his
contract and he's still playing high and get and again
it's because of the team, Cleveland is trying to dump
somebody because they're not going anywhere. I would do that. Yeah,
ideally you want a guy on his first contract has
got two more years to go. But I wouldn't be
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I wouldn't hesitate to do something for a veteran guy.
Guy that's you know, been around, played five six years
and it is a one year rental. Who knows what
next year? Well, let's worry about next year next year.
I've always thought, like I say, long term in the
NFL used to be seven or eight years if you've
got Peyton Manning, but now it's like four years or
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three years. And when you've got things going well, now
take care of now and again without without putting yourself
in a bind moving forward, which I don't think. There's
really not much of a way of making a trade
that's going to really hamstring you going forward. But no,
you're right, You've got Braden Smith, Nick Cross, Daniel Jones.
They'll figure all that out. They they look ahead, but
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right now and they can address I think they've got
like six million dollars in cap space, which is just
a number. They can go to Quintin, they can go
to Buck maybe somebody else. They can make the numbers work.
And I just think if it looks good and it
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works for him, I would make a move or two.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
Yes, Mike Chapel is our guest. He's on the Joba
House Peel and poor guest line. By the way, Jake
twenty five, the discount code if you would like to
purchase ap Peel and Poor Pods at Joaba House. Mike,
the the job that Shane Steichen has done. Have you
seen you know, you've been around him, You cover the team,
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you're in the weekly press conferences, et cetera. Is this
a guy you feel that had to make adjustments and
grow as a coach or was it rather he finally
now has the players around him, notably at the quarterback position,
that are delivering on what it was that he has
been doing all along.
Speaker 4 (24:53):
Yeah, both are true. He had to grow into the position,
but I think it just kind of it emphasizes how
restricted he's been the last couple of years because of
the quarterback situation. To where and Boyle us we don't
need to pile on Anthony Richards, and we don't, but
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to compare him and Daniel Jones is a disservice to
both because Richards has done so much talent, so much
incredible big play, but he doesn't have that down to
down mastery of things of consistency. Remember when Stichan said
find completions, and I've always tried to. I would never
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call Daniel Jones a game manager, but boys, he managing
this offense. Uh. And that's not a knock at all.
It's really kind of funny and I and I it
hit me last time when I followed the quotes from
the from the podium, somebody asked Jones about the offense
and he said, well, no, he said, what really? You know,
what I'm proud of is we're not doing anything out
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of the ordinary or crazy. And I've been saying that
for the last month. They're just going out and play
after play executing. Again, he's not doing anything crazy. Jonathan
Taylor's I'm still waiting for Jonathan Taylor's game. You know,
twenty five carries one hundred and ninety and all he's
doing is wearing you down with brilliance. Michael Pittman is
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just having a good season. Tyler Warren. When you give
Shane Stykeen a quarterback who runs the offense, reads the defenses,
gets out of bad plays, gets into good plays, avoid sacks,
and then you pair him with Jonathan Taylor, who is
the Who's the best running back in the game right now?
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And it's it's all year to year because last year
was a saqlon Barkleay. But he's on pace for like
twenty some touchdowns again and seventeen hundred yards. This is
I wrote about a while ago, and others have to
This is. This is Daniel Jones twenty two, twenty two,
when he had Barkley and the Giants went whatever was
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nine and seven, whatever it was, and made the playoffs.
You're not asking to do too much, but but he's
just making the right it's what seventy one seventy two
percent completions. I just posted something on on Twitter and
I double and triple checked it is he's had one
hundred plus rating in six out of seven games. And
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I went and checked how many Colts quarterbacks have had
one hundred plus rating in six of their first seven games?
And you know how mean it is. It's Daniel Jones,
that's it. Not Peyton, not Andrew Luck, not John Unitis.
So in there not like one one point fifty, it's
like one thirteen, one oh one, one thirteen, you know,
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one oh five. It's just methodical and efficient. And that's
why I say what they're doing it should sustain because
you know, well, what Tyler oron can't keep doing that? Well,
why can't he? They haven't. Really, he's not hit that
big game yet either. He's just kind of not so
crazy with five catches and sixty yards and a touchdown,
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so and they're going to get Down's back. So I
this is really, really, this is Shane Styke and being
able to use his playbook, not a third of it,
but all of it. I only hope, and knowing Shane
the way I've gotten to know him over the last
couple of years is he doesn't get you know, this
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is pretty fun. Let's see if we can go to
you know, page one, fourteen and pull this thing out
a crazy play because he likes he likes to do that.
We saw that little last year and did and they'll
they'll try some funky things with Tyler Warren. But boy,
it's just fun to watch this offense. It's not it's
not the pyrotechnics of Peyton and Marvin and Reggie and Edgern.
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It's different, but it's just as just as effective.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
Well, I think one of the things that's effective about
it is the clock management of it as well, right,
I mean, and the fact that that you know they're
able to sustain long drives and keep if you're going
up against chap, a buffalo or a Kansas City, and
I know that those teams have had their their speed
bumps to this point, although Karands of City is starting
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to come to form a little bit, or even Cincinnati.
If you're going up against a rhythm offense, the Colts offense,
to me, is very dangerous because they can they can
hold it on for six and a half seven minutes
in efficiency and just keep you out of rhythm. Right.
I mean, it's very similar to the way that we
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saw teams try to play against the Peyton Manning Colts
right right right, and that's you know, go ahead is
game the game.
Speaker 4 (29:49):
Because again, when they're going against Justin Herbert, I think
it was pretty obvious to me that psych and knew
they needed points. And that second drive when they went
up went for fourth down three time times instead of
a field goal. He just told it, told me that
he knew that they rant score. Now, whether that was
respect for Justin Herbert or concern over his defense, probably
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a little bit of both, Probably a lot of Herbert
and some on the defense. So and again, how much
does he trust Michael Badgeley. I don't know, I really don't,
But at some point Badly is gonna have to make
some field goals that you know, the forty five yards
that matter. So but right now, gosh, again everything's and
(30:33):
knock on wood. They stayed relatively healthy on offense, with
the exception of downs with the concussion. But and again
it's fun to watch. And again they're just not doing anything.
Like Jones said, crazy, this should sustain itself because again, Taylor,
we're waiting for Taylor. I'm waiting for Taylor, who's having
a great season to have one of those Taylor games
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where he's two hundred yards. So he's just been fun
to watch so far.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
Is the best offensive line in the NFL.
Speaker 4 (31:02):
Probably probably, and you've got two second year players on
it with Bordolini and Gonzalvez and Quintin. Well, he's back
to where he's just a highlight reel when he's pulling
and spiking guys.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
And look, I was and I wasn't alone in this.
I was probably wrong or I was wrong in saying
that while it's great to have a dominant left guard,
that is not a position that is a game wrecking
changer for you. And yet they have managed to turn
that into that.
Speaker 4 (31:35):
Yeah, this is funny and it's not meant a disrespect
Rick van Jerry. We were on that boat from the
start using the six overall pick on our guard. And
let's again, I would much rather have a premium position,
a pass rusherroo a left tackle with that pick. And
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then when you're right on the pick, you got to
pay him, you know whatever. It was twenty million a
year and it's not meant to disrespect to Quentin at all.
But I allowed Howard Mudd to influence my thinking back
in the day with the Colson and his point was
get you two tackles and a center and plug and
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play guards. And again that I realized that's a disrespect
for all guards everywhere. But Quentin, I tell you it's
and he's more than just a great player if the
locker room is influenced on everybody else, and that's one
of the he's one of those guys and positions where
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it's really hard to quantify. Yeah, you can throw up
the great blocks and all that, but you know, it's
hard to quantify his influence on the team like you
would a quarterback or a pass rusher or a great corner.
But I still would would rather have somebody another position
with the number six pick. But boy, it's hard to
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argue with. That's what Quintin has brought to these guys.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
Mike Chapels my guest CBS four, WXA and Fox fifty nine.
He is on the Java House Peel and Port guest line.
Chap in conclusion here and look, I realized this is
cart way before the horse, or in this case, the colt. Okay,
but we're gonna do it anyway. If you were to envision,
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it's not hard right now to start thinking about this
if you go outside and that crispit air. So I
want you to envision like that early to mid January game.
It's I you know, for that matter, the Colts may
be at home in the situation I'm about to present,
but it's late in the game. It's a later in
the round playoff game and you're taking on Mahomes or
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Josh Allen. And it's been one of those offensive shootout games.
Rigoberto Sanchez has been, you know, hanging out on the sidelines,
hasn't been on the field a lot. It's one of
those games like we saw between you know, the Chiefs
and Colts of yesteryear, offensive shootout and it comes down
to it and the opposition has the ball got to
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go eighty yards two and a half minutes left and
it's a five point game. Do you believe right now,
the way that they're equipped, that the Colts in this
situation have the capability of shutting down a high powered
offense like that when it truly matters most.
Speaker 4 (34:23):
No, No, I mean no. And again, whenever we talk
about that, it's like we're dumping on a six to
one team. No, we're just trying to say what's obvious.
And now to the other around, and they needed to
drive eighty yards and you're down five, I'd like their chances,
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but depending on the defense. No. No, But that's why
when we opened up by saying they need to make
a move. Now you give me mooney wardback and another
corner and maybe a pass rusher then and we're talking
something different. But as they're made up right now, how
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do you trust the secondary to hold up against one
of those guys? And by the way, if this plays
out it you know, if the playoffs started today, well,
they'd be home the second round, right, you know, second
probably second round with where they are, and it would
be against not Mahomes or or Allan, but probably I
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don't know Denver, I don't know, or who'd be there.
The the wild card would be Houston. Maybe I don't know.
I'd have to look at it deeper. But no, do
I trust what I trust the defense in the way
of structured now, No, not, not not at all. And
if that upsets some people will then go out and
get a cornerback.
Speaker 1 (35:49):
Well the again. And so let me ask you this,
based on precedent of what we have known from the past,
can you win games by Because this is where I
again I'm not trying to harp on the negative here,
but I go back to where the Colts have had
and we've seen it in this town a lot, where
they've had great offenses. It's hard to long term win
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based on your offense, right Like, you have to get
some counter to that.
Speaker 4 (36:19):
Well, yeah, look at those Manning years where they remember
the back to back games where they didn't punt. Yeah,
against Kansas City and dim.
Speaker 1 (36:26):
And your offense goes flat.
Speaker 4 (36:29):
Right now, it was outside and all that stuffy, and
they let the Patriots mug them and all that.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
Yes, I stay that.
Speaker 4 (36:35):
No, your point at some point, That's why I said,
at some point, you can't keep asking for your offense.
Let's score thirty five points. At some point, at some point,
you're gonna have to win a game that means something
twenty seventeen or seventeen thirteen. And that's where at some
point the defense is going to have to stand up
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and make a stop. I realized they did against Brissette
two weeks ago. I would still argue that that Crystal
Minds held McBride the end zone, but they didn't call it, so,
so they didn't so so it wasn't a penalty. But
but I just, yeah, at some point the defense has
to step up. And the way it's structured now, I
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think it's hard. And that's with with the force Buckner
playing all World again in Grover Stewart making a big
boy interception, which was just it was like watching a
bear grab a salmon and then going to the It
was a great, great stuff, great stuff. But now you
got to have cornerback play. And and right now they're
(37:42):
playing Gosh, it's always I'm always jumping on guys. They're
playing corners now that in a in a in an
ideal situation, in their ideal situation, wouldn't be playing. That's
just a fact. You play who you play, you play
who you got, but they need help there and I
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wouldn't be opposed to a pass rusher as well.
Speaker 1 (38:06):
Chap appreciate the time. As always. We'll talk to you
next week, all right, me will appreciated. Mike Chapel joining
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Note your Dame with the big win over USC over
the weekend. I'm going to ask Tom Noy a question
that of course he joins us from South Bend. Tom,
(38:50):
I'm going to ask you a question we always have
you on to talk Notre Dame football that has nothing
to do with Notre Dame but does have to do
with sports in Indiana. In order to generate conversation on
this program. Is that fair?
Speaker 3 (39:00):
It's your show. You can do whatever you want.
Speaker 1 (39:03):
Okay, So based on that, do you prefer the Beatles
are the who? No, I'm just kidding. Okay, this is
still within your wheelhouse because obviously you're a sports columnist
within the state of Indiana, and but I'm curious of this.
Do you think that there is any this story with
Indiana who you saw obviously taking on Notre Dame. We
(39:24):
talked to you plenty about it leading up to the
in the playoffs, Indiana football and Kurt Signetti and all
that is going into this, the new contract, the number
two ranking, the potential Heisman winner, all of it. Do
you think that there is any way that that then
tempers the annual enthusiasm that Indiana fans have towards their
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basketball program, and in fact, does the mediocrity of Indiana
basketball over the last twenty years finally begin to I
guess down the enthusiasm that the fan base has for
that particular program. Is there a shift?
Speaker 3 (40:05):
I think it would dampen it if Mike Woodson was
still the coach. Fair the fact that there's a new
head coach, there's a new direction. I think there's a
lot of carryover. Maybe a lot of IU basketball fans
look at Darren Devrees and say he's going to do
for IU basketball what Kirk Sinnetti has done for IU football,
(40:26):
and everything's going to be back on that campus. So
I think that if this was Mike Woodson, again, everybody like, eh,
basketball starting, But who cares. We have the number two
ranked team football football team in the country, We're going
back to the college football Playoff. We might beat Ohio
State in the Big Ten Championship game football football football.
But the fact that there's a new coach in the
new new direction, I think I think it there's there's
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enough going around down.
Speaker 1 (40:50):
There that does it put pressure on Devrees?
Speaker 3 (40:53):
No, not at all, Not at all. I mean there's
going to be pressure regardless because the job that he
has and where he coaches. But like this is it's
a new world in college basketball where it's so hard
for a new coach to parachute in and build a
roster that's going to be a competitive or b NCAA
tournament worthy in year one?
Speaker 1 (41:14):
Are you ready? Okay? How about this one? And then
we're going to get to Notre Dame Because it does
someone involved what I'm about to talk about, I really
believe this. Tom. I'm going to give you a theory.
I do this sometimes on this show. I'm going to
give you a theory, and then Tom, NOI I want
you to grade it A to F A being like spectacular,
F being dumbest thing you've ever heard. Okay, Indiana is
(41:36):
going to lose the Big Ten championship game to Ohio
State and then turn around and defeat Ohio State in
the National Championship game. I truly believe this. I truly
believe this. Your thoughts, uh, the.
Speaker 3 (41:51):
Query theory, I will give that a CEE right now, Okay,
because we don't know. It's all about like everybody talks about,
come NCAA Basketball, NCAA tournament time marks madness. This team's
going to the final four, this team's going to Sweet sixteen.
It's all built on matchups. If Indiana can do whatever
it needs to do to get a maybe a first
(42:14):
round by or whatever, and then you see what their
matchup is and if they have a matchup like Penn
State did last year in what they had to play
Arizona State and SMU Right, yeah, I believe No in
Boise State like.
Speaker 1 (42:30):
They No, that's right, Yeah, because Arizona State played Texas
I think.
Speaker 3 (42:33):
Right, yeah, so it was Boise State and SMU. Penn
State had a what was gifted a spot in the
in the NCAA, the College Football Playoff semi finals. So
unless we until we see the matchups, can't say, but heck,
why not? I mean this is it's It's the year
by un football.
Speaker 1 (42:52):
Okay, speaking of Penn State, Tom Noy, our guest South
Ben Tribune, is Marcus Freeman a candidate for that job?
Speaker 3 (42:58):
No? No, he's not a candidate for Penn State. He's not
a candidate for Florida. He's not a candidate for any
other job that's going to open up. Because I'm telling
you right now and nobody understands this, Marcus Freeman is
leaving the University of Notre Dame for exactly two jobs.
Speaker 1 (43:16):
Can I guess? Can I guess you can? Ohio State, Yes, Alabama,
no retirement.
Speaker 3 (43:26):
Two jobs, one in college and a team to be
named later in the NFL. That's it. He's going to
Ohio State. If Ryan Day decides he's had enough, Marcus
Freeman obvious choice. And then also maybe I've done enough
in college. I want to give this NFL thing a shot.
Those are the only jobs that Marcus Freeman will ever
(43:47):
leave Notre Dame for.
Speaker 1 (43:48):
Is Marcus Freeman coaching a college football playoff team this year?
Speaker 3 (43:52):
Yes, don't look now, but Notre Dame, as we sit
here on October twentieth, very well could be a breed
going back to the College Football Playoff and be hosting
a first round game.
Speaker 1 (44:06):
Okay, And is that because Notre Dame after their first
two disappointing losses that Notre Dame made changes in tweaks
and they have revised things and right to the ship
or they just kept doing what they were doing and
the schedule. And I mean that has no disrespect to them.
I think they're very, very good. But they lost to
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two really good teams. Did they stay that? Did they
have to be composed or did they have to make changes?
Speaker 3 (44:33):
I'll just say yes a little bit of both. Like
they had to make some changes defensively, but they also
had to stay the course because the first two weeks
it was you've got to fire Chris Ash. Chris Ash
is an idiot. He doesn't know how to coach defense.
This defense looks lost. They had the best defensive coach
assistant coach last year in the country in Al Golden
(44:55):
you got to get rid of Chris ash Marcus Freeman said, no,
we're not doing that. We're going to scale back on
what we're doing, but we're still gonna We're gonna stick
with the process. We're gonna stay We're gonna stay the course.
And look Arkansas, Boise State, NC State, USC, all four
of those teams had top ten offensive units when Notre
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Dame played him, and all four of them finished with
fewer points against Notre Dame than what they came into
that game. Averaging that defense is the main reason they're
five and two and headed back to then the college
football playoffs.
Speaker 1 (45:27):
How would you assess the quarterback play?
Speaker 3 (45:30):
Good but a little bit shaky the last couple of
weeks with CJ. Carr, Like not shaky enough to where
you're like, you know what, maybe we should get Kenny
Minshey ready the backup shakey as in, he was so
good so early that you kind of expected that this
is gonna he was gonna have a dip. Like the
way he's the way he's running around, the way he
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ran around against USC. I can't stand that because he
did the same thing against Miami. Yeah that happened, that
ended in a touchdown. This would this ended in a
bad pick, like just throw the ball away, get three points,
live to fight another down instead of being like I'm
just gonna I'm just gonna make something happen. So CJ.
Carr has been really good. And the part of the
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problem is CJ.
Speaker 1 (46:13):
Carr set the.
Speaker 3 (46:13):
Bar so high so early in the season that he's
got to play really well to meet that standard every
single week.
Speaker 1 (46:20):
Tom Noy is our guest South Ben and Tribune, where
you can read his work. He's on the Java House
Peel and Poor Guest line talking about Notre Dame and
Indiana for that matter. Tom One of the things to
me in college football this year that is interesting. I mean,
I think Ohio State is outstanding, right and I think
I really feel like Ryan Day hasn't even taken the
governor off the engine yet. I mean, you know what
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I mean. They I just I think the world of
Ohio State, even though I don't like him, But it
seems to be a wide open year this year, I
mean outside of and that's why I'm really optimistic for Indiana,
partially because Indiana, also, I think is really good. But
who's a dominant team in college football? We haven't mentioned Alabama?
Speaker 3 (47:04):
Yeah, I mean because of what happened that first week
where it was like, what do you know, Taylin Debora,
He's gonna get fired, he loses, that's Florida State. They
just quietly, just like Notre Dame has done, has done,
they step back into the shadows, keep working, keep winning,
keep getting better. Talk about Ohio State, talk about Indiana,
(47:24):
talk about the de Grease fire at Penn State. We're
just going to be Alabama right here, and we're going
to be Tennessee and then we're gonna get ready and
we're going to finish out the SEC schedule. I think
Alabama is a lot better than what teams than a
lot of people give him credit for, because of what
happened the way they started the year.
Speaker 1 (47:42):
You know, if you I mean, I don't know how
old I would have to be to truly grasp that
Vanderbilt and Indiana are ranked in the top ten. Oh
what the hell's going on? Tom? What are we doing here? Right?
Speaker 3 (47:55):
Is this?
Speaker 1 (47:55):
Honestly? Like I feel like Bob Gregor is going to
come out and tell me that actually what we're watching
is the brain game, right.
Speaker 3 (48:02):
Let's throw Georgia Tech in there too.
Speaker 1 (48:04):
Yeah, Georgia Tech. Listen, I watched Georgia Tech eviscerate my
Clemson Tigers, and Clemson that's a whole different talk show, right.
I mean, I don't know what the heck's going on there,
But again I think Tom, and you tell me if
if I'm making too much of this Indiana and that story. Yes,
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Kurt Signetti was a tremendous hire by Scott Dolson, and
yes they they have done a remarkable job. And I
think one of the things though for Indiana that when
the thirty for thirty comes out that needs to be
discussed is Indiana was at the forefront in terms of
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nil collectives and it was the perfect storm in college
football in the last three to five years. The perfect
storm was developing for someone to jump in and take
over the wheel in the left lane, and that's someone
in the Big ten. Was Indiana? Am I wrong? No?
Speaker 3 (49:06):
And have others? And that would allow other schools to
be like, you know what, we can make that sort
of commitment and get that serious about football, which is
why Kurt Netty does not have to go to Penn State.
He can do everything he wants to do and accomplish
everything that people want him to accomplish at a place
like Indiana. And five years ago we would never have
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said that, nor would we would have dreamed it. But
this is college football now, where you can win in Indiana,
you can win at Vanderbilt, you can win at Georgia Tech.
You could go to Penn State and have everything collapse.
It's not just a core four or five, six, seven
different programs. Everybody has a chance in this new revenue
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sharing and paying players era that we are in in
college football today.
Speaker 1 (49:52):
And Tom doesn't Penn State football kind of feel like
what Indiana basketball went through in a coaching search year
in a year out of like a lot of big
time coaches. I think, look at it and go, why
would I go there?
Speaker 3 (50:03):
Like? I wouldn't want that mess? Would you? Like James Franklin. Yeah,
I know his record was against top twenty five teams
and big, big games and all those other failures. But
the guy did win ten eleven games, ten eleven games,
ten eleven games, and it still wasn't good enough. That's
that's a that's a pretty hard sell for the next guy.
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I know it's Fenn State and everything, but you got
to you got to the freaking national semi final game
a year ago, and all of a sudden, now you're
on the unemployment line.
Speaker 1 (50:32):
Now. I trademarked the phrase why not Indiana, which I'm
very proud of, by the way, and I'm thinking now
about and let me tell you something, there's no biggest,
no bigger pain arduous, you know, long drawn out process
in the keyster like getting a trademark. It's it's a nightmare.
But I did do it. I would trademark query theory
(50:52):
except for that it's technically querry. And my dad was
very clear about the fact that I need to make
sure that people know that it's querry or not that.
But but I kind of like that, do you want
the trademark first DIBs on that or should I go
ahead and roll with that.
Speaker 3 (51:04):
It's yours, Like I said, it's your show, mom man.
Speaker 1 (51:07):
All right, Well, always appreciate it's always accentuated by your
visits though we greatly appreciate it absolutely, all right, Tom
Nooyd joining us South Bend Tribune. Appreciate the time Tom
as always, and have a great week. Java House peel
and poor Guess line
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Another tremendous grab for a tough town fire like this
surround the Voice of the Hoosiers, Don Fisher joining Query
in company on ninety three five and one oh seven
five the fan.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Let me tell you how you know that everything is
running fabulously for your college football team. It goes without
saying that when you are unblemished that things are going well.
It goes without saying when you're quarterback that things are
going well, and it goes without saying that you are
ranked number two in the country things are going well.
(01:00):
But the ultimate tell tale may be when you turn
on the football broadcast, as you could do on this
radio station, and you hear the play by play analyst
and the color analysts before the game discussing whether or
not the Bison mascot actually condunk and or ride a Harley.
When you hear that, you say to yourself, this means
everything is perfect in Hoo's your land. Don Fisher, the
(01:23):
voice of the Hoosiers, joins us, Now that's a pretty
fair assessment, is it not, Don?
Speaker 4 (01:28):
Pretty good? Pretty good?
Speaker 2 (01:32):
It makes me laugh.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
However, it was cracking me up because Shannon and I
are listening to the game and you guys were breaking
down like the vertical leap and or the size of
the bison, and listen, Don, and then the game gets underway,
and you know, I was just saying it. I think
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at times over the course of a game. You know,
Kurt Signetti an inner, you know, you know this obviously,
and talking to him, he is at times so concise
and so direct on what he wants and what he
expects in a game, and he can just fire off
the cliches like that, right, And then you watch his
team though, and it truly carries the character and the
(02:15):
message of the coach. Because I am just still pinching
myself over the efficiency of Indiana, both on offense and defense.
I just don I don't know that I've seen a team,
and I don't mean this to blow the smoke, but
I just don't know that I've seen a team that
plays as smart and as efficient as I've seen from Indiana.
(02:39):
Does this remind you of other programs that you've seen
or other teams over the years.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
It does. I mean, when you think about that kind
of efficiency, that kind of the way they go about things,
And I don't want to compare it to who I'm
going to compare it to, but it does remind me
of the Ohio States and the Michigan of the past.
(03:06):
Not necessarily now so much, but of the past of
the teams I watched on television. The Alabama's those type
of ball clubs, and I'm not saying that Indiana is
in that category yet, but it looks like that. It
looks like, Man, these guys are good, they really are.
(03:29):
They do the things their coach is asking them to do.
It's got disciplined, it's got toughness, it's got all those
things that coach Signetti talks about at this juncture, and
it looks so good, not just the average fan, but
to guys that are experts. Urban Meyers said, this is
the best coach team in the country, and he said
(03:51):
that recently. So I'm all I can tell you at
this juncture is that what we're seeing at Indiana University
is historic in just about every way you can think of.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
And don when you look at the roster and I know, look,
you know Sarat is a phenomenal player. And it goes
without saying I mean what Mendoza is doing again, efficient
is the word that keeps coming to mind. But when
I look at just the totality of Indiana football, I
(04:25):
wonder this, how much of this is because he's been
able to get guys to buy in Because I'm not
saying all and I mean it is no disrespect to
the previous stops for some of them, but there's like
this chip on the shoulder right of that Signetti himself
kind of has of like, yeah, I might have been
at JMU, but you know what, like I just went
Google me and and all of these guys are buying
(04:47):
into it. How has he been able to get guys
to put the team accomplishment above personal accomplishment when they
when some of these guys have had personal vendetta against reputation.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
Well, in my opinion, the reason he's able to do
that with players is because he researches players. He researches
what these guys are like, what kind of character do
they have, what's their performance been like when they have
been out there in the field. We're talking about portal
guys now, but he does the same thing with high
(05:26):
school kids who he recruits. He's looking at this at
the total picture of a player, not just in the
sense of his physical prowess or how he has played
from a talent perspective. He's also looking at the guy internally.
If you know what I'm saying, what this kid's mindset is,
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how's he approaching coming to Indiana? Is money the most
important thing? You know, all those kinds of factors that
now coaches have to look into and if they don't.
If they don't, they're not going to get the guy
they're looking for. And that requires then probably having to
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replace that guy because that guy is going to transfer,
or if you're if you if you want to continue
to play with him, does he fit the mold of
what you're trying to build with your program. So there
are so many factors involved in this thing right now,
but more than anything else, what Signetti looks for is
character first, and then the other things and I couldn't
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put him in the order that perhaps he would, but
all the things we talked about at this point, it
gives you some idea of why this team looks like
it does right now because he has built this team,
constructed this team through his research.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
Don I literally feel like I need to say this
and then run like out of the building, okay, because
I get it from me and I mean it is
the highest of compliments for Indiana. I feel like the
what Kurt Signetti has done and what you're talking about
in terms of roster build is kind of the football
equivalent of what Matt Painter doesn't perdue. And I know
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Indiana fans don't want to hear that comparison, but my
point being, and I know you think the world of
you know, Matt as a basketball coach. There just is
an ability that some coaches have. Sometimes it separates coaches
of understanding people right and just in being able to
assess people and put people together. And for Kurt Signetti
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it's worked beautifully. Obviously with Fernanda Mendoza, this is one
of them that I saw a comment afterwards for Mendoza
where I'm watching him and I'm thinking, this is the
antithesis of the stereotype of big like successful jock quarterback,
because he was this humble team first in comment guy.
(07:51):
And so I was curious how much time you have
had a chance to talk to Fernanda Mendoza and just
kind of your overall assessment of what kind of young
man he is and that is enabling him to be
and have this kind of a season. Brindiana.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Well, the truth of the matter is, I haven't spoke
to Fernando yet. I have not. I haven't had a
chance to I've literally It's not that I've been kept
away from him or he from me. It's simply that
because of the demands on him at this point, I'm
sure acting protecting him a lot from a lot of
the things that happened, and I just haven't had a
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chance to interact with him in any way, shape or form. However,
I've seen his interviews with you in the post game
scenarios and that kind of stuff where he's talked to
the rest of the media and what kind of questions
are asked and the kind of answers he's given, and
he is exactly as you as you've said, very humble,
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team first talks about how he must get in there
and look at film and how much work he does
in that regard what the coaches say about him. He's
a very coachable guy. He listens intently and he studies intently.
And so from that perspective and from the personality that
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I've seen him as Zoos in these press conferences and
so on, I'm really impressed with the kid because all
he does is talk about I've got to get better.
The things that I do sometimes are not the right thing,
so to speak. He says, I make mistakes, and I've
got to correct those mistakes. It's again, it's the character
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of the kid we're talking about here, and that's why
all of these guys are successful, because that's the kind
of kid that Kurt Signetti goes after. And when you
talk to almost any of these players, and I mean
virtually anybody that Signetti has brought on campus to be
a part of this football team, they've got the same
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type of person so to speak. Yeah, there's differences in
every kid or in every young adult that comes into IU,
but they all think the same way. They're all thinking
the same things, and he definitely demands that kind of
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thinking process when it comes to his players and if
they don't buy into it, see you later.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
Yeah. I mean it's in. You can just tell it, right,
I mean it literally is. Everybody is laser focused on
the same thing from on each play. But let me
ask you, don Don Fisher, our guests, he's on the
Joba House, Peel and poor guest line. We're talking Indiana football,
the number two ranked now Indiana Hoosiers. Lastly, Don, And
I asked this just because you know you see every
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play and you know whether between you and Bucker whoever
you talk to, is there an achilles? I mean, is
there an area with this Indiana football team that you
say to yourself, Look, this is great, but there is
still an area that I know they need to shore
up that could bite them. And it's this.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
I don't have that area, Jake. I'm not that smart.
I can just tell you I don't know what area
that would be. No, Yeah, yeah, I mean there's just
nothing I can point to. The One thing I've said,
and I've said this to you before, and I've said
it to anybody who asked me questions about Indiana right now,
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who's going to beat this team? And my answer is
a team with more talent, a lot more talent than
what Indiana has, and they've also got to be a
really good football program under their coach. So I'm not
going to sit here and say that Indiana is not
going to get beat and then that they couldn't be
upset or anything like that, because we don't know. We've
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only I mean, we've played some really good ball games
against some really good football teams at this point. And
obviously the biggest newie or new beyond that black is
the Oregon Ducks, who nobody thought, almost nobody thought could
beat Oregon at their place, and it happened a couple
of weeks ago. So at this juncture, Jake, I can't
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answer it. But one thing I do want to say,
from what you asked me earlier, you brought up Matt
Painter and his philosophy and how he goes about things.
There's not much difference you can say about these two programs.
I'm talking about the basketball Purdue and the football at
Indiana right now, and I think you're going to see
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something very similar to what we see from Matt Painter
and t Signetti and the new guy, Darren de Brees.
I really believe that.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
Yeah, and I'll tell you what that was. You know,
obviously done from the basketball standpoint, Darren de Brees has
done so far, you know, all the right things, and
certainly the players that have come in have been bought
in from what we can see so far. And I
think I'll tell you what offense, they're going to be
awfully fun to watch. You know, I don't know how
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good they'll be this particular year, but their style and
they're not afraid to shoot threes, I think they're going
to be awfully fun to watch.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Oh, They're going to be so much fun to watch
because not only do they put up a ton of frees,
and we saw that in the first exhibition game, and
you know what, they're going to be teams that try
to take that away and you won't be shooting as
many as they did in the first matchup with Marion,
which is thirty maybe fifteen. But at the same time,
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you're going to see a basketball team that I'm telling you,
Indiana fans, so get a chance to watch this IU
basketball team early in this season are going to fall
in love with them because they play the way you
should play basketball at Indiana and the way you should
play basketball any place in that regard. And that's for
really tough defense, really playing their butts off all the time,
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and they're going to compete like crazy. And you're right,
nobody really knows how good this talent level is with
this particular group. And they've got some they've got some
areas that are not as strong as some of the
teams are going to face in the Big Ten. But
I believe that they're going to compete every single night
that they play because this guy demands it.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
Don I think, if I'm not mistaken here, you've got
three or four more weeks here that you can get
in some golf. Is that about right?
Speaker 2 (14:26):
Well, we're about to we're about to enter November, of
which the golf court, the golf bag mityls will be
put in the trunk and not be used to do
until next spring. Because I just got too much going
on with football and basketball.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
Well that's what I was going to say. Is now
you're like, well, hey, that's fine, because I got a
top five football team and an up and coming basketball
team to deal with. Like it's all good, right, Life's
good for Don Fisher. That's exactly right. It can't get
much better than this Don. We appreciate the time as always,
and the Hoosiers and UCLA coming up Saturday at and
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of course you can hear that with Don on the
call as well. Appreciate it, Don, thanks for having me,
Jack she Don Fisher on the Java House, Peel and
Poor Guest Line joining us now on the Java House,
Peel and Poor Guest Line. He is the Dean of
writers when it comes to covering the Colt Sea, has
been doing so since the Mayflowers arrived. He is with
WXI in Box fifth, the NIT and CBS four Mike
(15:21):
Chappell joining us. Chapel, I will begin with this question,
and I'm a little hesitant to go this way with
it because it sounds like I'm being negative. That's not
the case at all. But with this team, you know,
they are playing at such a level that some of
the talking points are the obvious. So I'll start with this.
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Do you believe they will make a move to try
to address pass rush between now and the trade deadline?
Speaker 4 (15:48):
Yes, they have to. I mean they have to explore.
I hope it's it's serious exploration whether and we can
argue rusher or corner. I would take a pass rusher
any day, but the secondary is so depleted a secondary,
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the corners are so depleted. I in this instance, I
would probably opt for a cornerback. First of all, it's
gonna be it's probably gonna be cheaper to get you
a cornerback as far as what it will take to
give him. I know people point to Trey hendrickson the
fact that Bengals well in last week and are still
sort of in it. But boy, I'm not sure how
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you make him fit. He's got like twenty nine million dollars.
I realize that's pro rated. But and you can do
wonderful things with the salary cap. You can make it say,
you really can, but that that would be a stretch.
I hope they find a corner and not and not
a guy. I'm talking a guy you know Italics who
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can step in and play. And you know, obviously getting
a guy now there's a reason you're getting in. But
in this case, it's probably from a team that's not
in the chase, and it's a guy that's been playing
so often. You know, you bring in a free agent
the Sapien Howard, Mike Hilton to a few lesser degree,
who hasn't been playing well if you get a guy
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now he's been playing and he's let go for a
reason the team's and he's not playing well or whatever.
I I I will be surprised if they don't go
out and get a corner again, a pass rush who
would make more of a splash because it'll be a name.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
Yah.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
He Yeah. Here's the thing. I think it's a little
bit of a chicken and egg thing here. Okay, but
you can their their defensive backfield has been depleted by
injury to your point, right, and they've had to and
I think, to be honest with you, and you made
you know, I know the xavient Howard thing. You know.
But as you start to get some guys back in particular,
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and Nick Cross was picked on pre heavily yesterday, he
had that pick. But other than that, I thought they
went to him a lot. There's probably a reason that
you can say that, but you can get away with
in my opinion, and I want you, as somebody who
knows football, to tell me if you agree or disagree.
You can get away with average to slightly below average
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corner play more often than not if you are rushing
a passer into having to throw it. The longer that
a quarterback has time, the more a depletion in your
defensive backfield is exposed.
Speaker 4 (18:33):
I don't disagree. And that's why I say, and in
most cases I take a pass rusher because I should think.
You know, Dwight Freeney, Hall of Famer, he can make
three plays in a game and standing there twilling his
stumbs for fifty plays and he wins a game for you.
That's extreme, I realized. But I just think in this case,
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I thought that it's kind of crazy. I thought the
pressure was okay Sunday, uh three sacks. One of them
was late, maybe two of them are late, but I
thought they got they They moved Herbert around a little bit,
which he's really good at doing, moving up, moving side
to side. He threw the ball fifty five times. There's
you know, with that offensive line down to their fifth
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and six tackles whatever, they should have gotten to him more.
But when you're playing corners like Jonathan Edwards started a
couple of games and and he was like their fourth
corner this this this week. So and Chris Lemons, who
had the stop against McBride with the holes, didn't play
a time. And the thing is they're not going to
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get guys back anytime. So they got Kenny Moore back,
which is huge, but charge you know Mooney Ward's going
to miss four games at least with concussions. You never know.
And Jalen Jones. We've been given no indication when they
opened the twenty one day window with him. So right now,
these are your corners, and I just I just have
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enough faith that the pass freshures they got. Although now
it's saying for e Becom, you don't know with the knee,
I've been told it's not long term, but you don't know,
Taekwon Lewis with a growing you don't know. I wouldn't
mind both. I don't know that they can swing that.
But this is one and this isn't mortgage in the
future at all. This is your You're finding the guy
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probably for one year, half a year, and as long
as the compensation makes sense. And you know, I at
this point in the season, I'll give up a fifth
round pick, a sixth round pick, as eventh round pick.
I will because I think that the opportunity is there
to do something. The rest of the league is sort
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of muddling around. There's a few teams that are that
are starting to emerge, Kansas City and people like that.
But what what And now you've got a two game
lead in the AC South? Who knows what? How do
you how do you figure out what Jacksonville is? I
I don't know, but and Houston's got a tough game
coming up, So I think it makes so much sense.
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I think the only in season trade the Ballads made
was Nahem Hines. I think is when Naheim wanted requested
a trade to UH Buffalo and they got Zach Moss,
which was a good trade, a really good trade. So
I'm not a wheeler dealer, you know, the fantasy football guy,
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but I think this is this is a situation that
maybe you give up a little bit more than you
want to. But I think with it, you're just asking
the offense to do so much, you know, thirty three
points a game, and it's just it's just humming really well.
But can they do that every game? Maybe we're sitting
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here in December to the men you came either so
averaging thirty three points, but you can't be letting a
quarterback throw for four hundred yards and all that. Give
me a corner number one and then give me a
pass rus stripting flat.
Speaker 5 (22:07):
One, Mike, do you feel like the rental is the
best way to go considering where they're at with free
agents coming up after the season and Braden Smith, Daniel Jones,
Alec Pearson, nit Cross instead of you know, trying to
trade for a guy that may have a couple of
years underneath in terms of left on the contract, Well.
Speaker 4 (22:24):
You may get that. Yeah, you may get it. If
it's a younger guy. You may get a guy that's
got two more years. And the good part is is
you're getting You're getting his base salary, You're not getting
any of the signing bonus as well.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
But you probably need to get first contract guy in
that situation rights.
Speaker 4 (22:42):
If you could. But you know, if you've got a
veteran guy who's got a year to go on his
contract and he's still playing high and get and again
it's because of the team, Cleveland is trying to dump
somebody because they're not going anywhere. I would do that. Yeah,
ideally you want a guy on his first contract has
got two more years to go. But I wouldn't be
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I wouldn't hesitate to do something for a veteran guy.
Guy that's you know, been around, played five six years
and it is a one year rental. Who knows what
next year? Well, let's worry about next year next year.
I've always thought, like I say, long term in the
NFL used to be seven or eight years if you've
got Peyton Manning, but now it's like four years or
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three years. And when you've got things going well, now
take care of now and again without without putting yourself
in a bind moving forward, which I don't think. There's
really not much of a way of making a trade
that's going to really hamstring you going forward. But no,
you're right, You've got Braden Smith, Nick Cross, Daniel Jones.
They'll figure all that out. They they look ahead, but
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right now and they can address I think they've got
like six million dollars in cap space, which is just
a number. They can go to Quintin, they can go
to Buck maybe somebody else. They can make the numbers work.
And I just think if it looks good and it
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works for him, I would make a move or two.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
Yes, Mike Chapel is our guest. He's on the Joba
House Peel and poor guest line. By the way, Jake
twenty five, the discount code if you would like to
purchase ap Peel and Poor Pods at Joaba House. Mike,
the the job that Shane Steichen has done. Have you
seen you know, you've been around him, You cover the team,
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you're in the weekly press conferences, et cetera. Is this
a guy you feel that had to make adjustments and
grow as a coach or was it rather he finally
now has the players around him, notably at the quarterback position,
that are delivering on what it was that he has
been doing all along.
Speaker 4 (24:53):
Yeah, both are true. He had to grow into the position,
but I think it just kind of it emphasizes how
restricted he's been the last couple of years because of
the quarterback situation. To where and Boyle us we don't
need to pile on Anthony Richards, and we don't, but
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to compare him and Daniel Jones is a disservice to
both because Richards has done so much talent, so much
incredible big play, but he doesn't have that down to
down mastery of things of consistency. Remember when Stichan said
find completions, and I've always tried to. I would never
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call Daniel Jones a game manager, but boys, he managing
this offense. Uh. And that's not a knock at all.
It's really kind of funny and I and I it
hit me last time when I followed the quotes from
the from the podium, somebody asked Jones about the offense
and he said, well, no, he said, what really? You know,
what I'm proud of is we're not doing anything out
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of the ordinary or crazy. And I've been saying that
for the last month. They're just going out and play
after play executing. Again, he's not doing anything crazy. Jonathan
Taylor's I'm still waiting for Jonathan Taylor's game. You know,
twenty five carries one hundred and ninety and all he's
doing is wearing you down with brilliance. Michael Pittman is
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just having a good season. Tyler Warren. When you give
Shane Stykeen a quarterback who runs the offense, reads the defenses,
gets out of bad plays, gets into good plays, avoid sacks,
and then you pair him with Jonathan Taylor, who is
the Who's the best running back in the game right now?
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And it's it's all year to year because last year
was a saqlon Barkleay. But he's on pace for like
twenty some touchdowns again and seventeen hundred yards. This is
I wrote about a while ago, and others have to
This is. This is Daniel Jones twenty two, twenty two,
when he had Barkley and the Giants went whatever was
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nine and seven, whatever it was, and made the playoffs.
You're not asking to do too much, but but he's
just making the right it's what seventy one seventy two
percent completions. I just posted something on on Twitter and
I double and triple checked it is he's had one
hundred plus rating in six out of seven games. And
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I went and checked how many Colts quarterbacks have had
one hundred plus rating in six of their first seven games?
And you know how mean it is. It's Daniel Jones,
that's it. Not Peyton, not Andrew Luck, not John Unitis.
So in there not like one one point fifty, it's
like one thirteen, one oh one, one thirteen, you know,
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one oh five. It's just methodical and efficient. And that's
why I say what they're doing it should sustain because
you know, well, what Tyler oron can't keep doing that? Well,
why can't he? They haven't. Really, he's not hit that
big game yet either. He's just kind of not so
crazy with five catches and sixty yards and a touchdown,
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so and they're going to get Down's back. So I
this is really, really, this is Shane Styke and being
able to use his playbook, not a third of it,
but all of it. I only hope, and knowing Shane
the way I've gotten to know him over the last
couple of years is he doesn't get you know, this
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is pretty fun. Let's see if we can go to
you know, page one, fourteen and pull this thing out
a crazy play because he likes he likes to do that.
We saw that little last year and did and they'll
they'll try some funky things with Tyler Warren. But boy,
it's just fun to watch this offense. It's not it's
not the pyrotechnics of Peyton and Marvin and Reggie and Edgern.
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It's different, but it's just as just as effective.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
Well, I think one of the things that's effective about
it is the clock management of it as well, right,
I mean, and the fact that that you know they're
able to sustain long drives and keep if you're going
up against chap, a buffalo or a Kansas City, and
I know that those teams have had their their speed
bumps to this point, although Karands of City is starting
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to come to form a little bit, or even Cincinnati.
If you're going up against a rhythm offense, the Colts offense,
to me, is very dangerous because they can they can
hold it on for six and a half seven minutes
in efficiency and just keep you out of rhythm. Right.
I mean, it's very similar to the way that we
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saw teams try to play against the Peyton Manning Colts
right right right, and that's you know, go ahead is
game the game.
Speaker 4 (29:49):
Because again, when they're going against Justin Herbert, I think
it was pretty obvious to me that psych and knew
they needed points. And that second drive when they went
up went for fourth down three time times instead of
a field goal. He just told it, told me that
he knew that they rant score. Now, whether that was
respect for Justin Herbert or concern over his defense, probably
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a little bit of both, Probably a lot of Herbert
and some on the defense. So and again, how much
does he trust Michael Badgeley. I don't know, I really don't,
But at some point Badly is gonna have to make
some field goals that you know, the forty five yards
that matter. So but right now, gosh, again everything's and
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knock on wood. They stayed relatively healthy on offense, with
the exception of downs with the concussion. But and again
it's fun to watch. And again they're just not doing anything.
Like Jones said, crazy, this should sustain itself because again, Taylor,
we're waiting for Taylor. I'm waiting for Taylor, who's having
a great season to have one of those Taylor games
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where he's two hundred yards. So he's just been fun
to watch so far.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
Is the best offensive line in the NFL.
Speaker 4 (31:02):
Probably probably, and you've got two second year players on
it with Bordolini and Gonzalvez and Quintin. Well, he's back
to where he's just a highlight reel when he's pulling
and spiking guys.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
And look, I was and I wasn't alone in this.
I was probably wrong or I was wrong in saying
that while it's great to have a dominant left guard,
that is not a position that is a game wrecking
changer for you. And yet they have managed to turn
that into that.
Speaker 4 (31:35):
Yeah, this is funny and it's not meant a disrespect
Rick van Jerry. We were on that boat from the
start using the six overall pick on our guard. And
let's again, I would much rather have a premium position,
a pass rusherroo a left tackle with that pick. And
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then when you're right on the pick, you got to
pay him, you know whatever. It was twenty million a
year and it's not meant to disrespect to Quentin at all.
But I allowed Howard Mudd to influence my thinking back
in the day with the Colson and his point was
get you two tackles and a center and plug and
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play guards. And again that I realized that's a disrespect
for all guards everywhere. But Quentin, I tell you it's
and he's more than just a great player if the
locker room is influenced on everybody else, and that's one
of the he's one of those guys and positions where
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it's really hard to quantify. Yeah, you can throw up
the great blocks and all that, but you know, it's
hard to quantify his influence on the team like you
would a quarterback or a pass rusher or a great corner.
But I still would would rather have somebody another position
with the number six pick. But boy, it's hard to
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argue with. That's what Quintin has brought to these guys.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
Mike Chapels my guest CBS four, WXA and Fox fifty nine.
He is on the Java House Peel and Port guest line.
Chap in conclusion here and look, I realized this is
cart way before the horse, or in this case, the colt. Okay,
but we're gonna do it anyway. If you were to envision,
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it's not hard right now to start thinking about this
if you go outside and that crispit air. So I
want you to envision like that early to mid January game.
It's I you know, for that matter, the Colts may
be at home in the situation I'm about to present,
but it's late in the game. It's a later in
the round playoff game and you're taking on Mahomes or
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Josh Allen. And it's been one of those offensive shootout games.
Rigoberto Sanchez has been, you know, hanging out on the sidelines,
hasn't been on the field a lot. It's one of
those games like we saw between you know, the Chiefs
and Colts of yesteryear, offensive shootout and it comes down
to it and the opposition has the ball got to
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go eighty yards two and a half minutes left and
it's a five point game. Do you believe right now,
the way that they're equipped, that the Colts in this
situation have the capability of shutting down a high powered
offense like that when it truly matters most.
Speaker 4 (34:23):
No, No, I mean no. And again, whenever we talk
about that, it's like we're dumping on a six to
one team. No, we're just trying to say what's obvious.
And now to the other around, and they needed to
drive eighty yards and you're down five, I'd like their chances,
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but depending on the defense. No. No, But that's why
when we opened up by saying they need to make
a move. Now you give me mooney wardback and another
corner and maybe a pass rusher then and we're talking
something different. But as they're made up right now, how
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do you trust the secondary to hold up against one
of those guys? And by the way, if this plays
out it you know, if the playoffs started today, well,
they'd be home the second round, right, you know, second
probably second round with where they are, and it would
be against not Mahomes or or Allan, but probably I
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don't know Denver, I don't know, or who'd be there.
The the wild card would be Houston. Maybe I don't know.
I'd have to look at it deeper. But no, do
I trust what I trust the defense in the way
of structured now, No, not, not not at all. And
if that upsets some people will then go out and
get a cornerback.
Speaker 1 (35:49):
Well the again. And so let me ask you this,
based on precedent of what we have known from the past,
can you win games by Because this is where I
again I'm not trying to harp on the negative here,
but I go back to where the Colts have had
and we've seen it in this town a lot, where
they've had great offenses. It's hard to long term win
(36:13):
based on your offense, right Like, you have to get
some counter to that.
Speaker 4 (36:19):
Well, yeah, look at those Manning years where they remember
the back to back games where they didn't punt. Yeah,
against Kansas City and dim.
Speaker 1 (36:26):
And your offense goes flat.
Speaker 4 (36:29):
Right now, it was outside and all that stuffy, and
they let the Patriots mug them and all that.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
Yes, I stay that.
Speaker 4 (36:35):
No, your point at some point, That's why I said,
at some point, you can't keep asking for your offense.
Let's score thirty five points. At some point, at some point,
you're gonna have to win a game that means something
twenty seventeen or seventeen thirteen. And that's where at some
point the defense is going to have to stand up
(36:57):
and make a stop. I realized they did against Brissette
two weeks ago. I would still argue that that Crystal
Minds held McBride the end zone, but they didn't call it, so,
so they didn't so so it wasn't a penalty. But
but I just, yeah, at some point the defense has
to step up. And the way it's structured now, I
(37:18):
think it's hard. And that's with with the force Buckner
playing all World again in Grover Stewart making a big
boy interception, which was just it was like watching a
bear grab a salmon and then going to the It
was a great, great stuff, great stuff. But now you
got to have cornerback play. And and right now they're
(37:42):
playing Gosh, it's always I'm always jumping on guys. They're
playing corners now that in a in a in an
ideal situation, in their ideal situation, wouldn't be playing. That's
just a fact. You play who you play, you play
who you got, but they need help there and I
(38:03):
wouldn't be opposed to a pass rusher as well.
Speaker 1 (38:06):
Chap appreciate the time. As always. We'll talk to you
next week, all right, me will appreciated. Mike Chapel joining
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Note your Dame with the big win over USC over
the weekend. I'm going to ask Tom Noy a question
that of course he joins us from South Bend. Tom,
(38:50):
I'm going to ask you a question we always have
you on to talk Notre Dame football that has nothing
to do with Notre Dame but does have to do
with sports in Indiana. In order to generate conversation on
this program. Is that fair?
Speaker 3 (39:00):
It's your show. You can do whatever you want.
Speaker 1 (39:03):
Okay, So based on that, do you prefer the Beatles
are the who? No, I'm just kidding. Okay, this is
still within your wheelhouse because obviously you're a sports columnist
within the state of Indiana, and but I'm curious of this.
Do you think that there is any this story with
Indiana who you saw obviously taking on Notre Dame. We
(39:24):
talked to you plenty about it leading up to the
in the playoffs, Indiana football and Kurt Signetti and all
that is going into this, the new contract, the number
two ranking, the potential Heisman winner, all of it. Do
you think that there is any way that that then
tempers the annual enthusiasm that Indiana fans have towards their
(39:45):
basketball program, and in fact, does the mediocrity of Indiana
basketball over the last twenty years finally begin to I
guess down the enthusiasm that the fan base has for
that particular program. Is there a shift?
Speaker 3 (40:05):
I think it would dampen it if Mike Woodson was
still the coach. Fair the fact that there's a new
head coach, there's a new direction. I think there's a
lot of carryover. Maybe a lot of IU basketball fans
look at Darren Devrees and say he's going to do
for IU basketball what Kirk Sinnetti has done for IU football,
(40:26):
and everything's going to be back on that campus. So
I think that if this was Mike Woodson, again, everybody like, eh,
basketball starting, But who cares. We have the number two
ranked team football football team in the country, We're going
back to the college football Playoff. We might beat Ohio
State in the Big Ten Championship game football football football.
But the fact that there's a new coach in the
new new direction, I think I think it there's there's
(40:49):
enough going around down.
Speaker 1 (40:50):
There that does it put pressure on Devrees?
Speaker 3 (40:53):
No, not at all, Not at all. I mean there's
going to be pressure regardless because the job that he
has and where he coaches. But like this is it's
a new world in college basketball where it's so hard
for a new coach to parachute in and build a
roster that's going to be a competitive or b NCAA
tournament worthy in year one?
Speaker 1 (41:14):
Are you ready? Okay? How about this one? And then
we're going to get to Notre Dame Because it does
someone involved what I'm about to talk about, I really
believe this. Tom. I'm going to give you a theory.
I do this sometimes on this show. I'm going to
give you a theory, and then Tom, NOI I want
you to grade it A to F A being like spectacular,
F being dumbest thing you've ever heard. Okay, Indiana is
(41:36):
going to lose the Big Ten championship game to Ohio
State and then turn around and defeat Ohio State in
the National Championship game. I truly believe this. I truly
believe this. Your thoughts, uh, the.
Speaker 3 (41:51):
Query theory, I will give that a CEE right now, Okay,
because we don't know. It's all about like everybody talks about,
come NCAA Basketball, NCAA tournament time marks madness. This team's
going to the final four, this team's going to Sweet sixteen.
It's all built on matchups. If Indiana can do whatever
it needs to do to get a maybe a first
(42:14):
round by or whatever, and then you see what their
matchup is and if they have a matchup like Penn
State did last year in what they had to play
Arizona State and SMU Right, yeah, I believe No in
Boise State like.
Speaker 1 (42:30):
They No, that's right, Yeah, because Arizona State played Texas
I think.
Speaker 3 (42:33):
Right, yeah, so it was Boise State and SMU. Penn
State had a what was gifted a spot in the
in the NCAA, the College Football Playoff semi finals. So
unless we until we see the matchups, can't say, but heck,
why not? I mean this is it's It's the year
by un football.
Speaker 1 (42:52):
Okay, speaking of Penn State, Tom Noy, our guest South
Ben Tribune, is Marcus Freeman a candidate for that job?
Speaker 3 (42:58):
No? No, he's not a candidate for Penn State. He's not
a candidate for Florida. He's not a candidate for any
other job that's going to open up. Because I'm telling
you right now and nobody understands this, Marcus Freeman is
leaving the University of Notre Dame for exactly two jobs.
Speaker 1 (43:16):
Can I guess? Can I guess you can? Ohio State, Yes, Alabama,
no retirement.
Speaker 3 (43:26):
Two jobs, one in college and a team to be
named later in the NFL. That's it. He's going to
Ohio State. If Ryan Day decides he's had enough, Marcus
Freeman obvious choice. And then also maybe I've done enough
in college. I want to give this NFL thing a shot.
Those are the only jobs that Marcus Freeman will ever
(43:47):
leave Notre Dame for.
Speaker 1 (43:48):
Is Marcus Freeman coaching a college football playoff team this year?
Speaker 3 (43:52):
Yes, don't look now, but Notre Dame, as we sit
here on October twentieth, very well could be a breed
going back to the College Football Playoff and be hosting
a first round game.
Speaker 1 (44:06):
Okay, And is that because Notre Dame after their first
two disappointing losses that Notre Dame made changes in tweaks
and they have revised things and right to the ship
or they just kept doing what they were doing and
the schedule. And I mean that has no disrespect to them.
I think they're very, very good. But they lost to
(44:28):
two really good teams. Did they stay that? Did they
have to be composed or did they have to make changes?
Speaker 3 (44:33):
I'll just say yes a little bit of both. Like
they had to make some changes defensively, but they also
had to stay the course because the first two weeks
it was you've got to fire Chris Ash. Chris Ash
is an idiot. He doesn't know how to coach defense.
This defense looks lost. They had the best defensive coach
assistant coach last year in the country in Al Golden
(44:55):
you got to get rid of Chris ash Marcus Freeman said, no,
we're not doing that. We're going to scale back on
what we're doing, but we're still gonna We're gonna stick
with the process. We're gonna stay We're gonna stay the course.
And look Arkansas, Boise State, NC State, USC, all four
of those teams had top ten offensive units when Notre
(45:15):
Dame played him, and all four of them finished with
fewer points against Notre Dame than what they came into
that game. Averaging that defense is the main reason they're
five and two and headed back to then the college
football playoffs.
Speaker 1 (45:27):
How would you assess the quarterback play?
Speaker 3 (45:30):
Good but a little bit shaky the last couple of
weeks with CJ. Carr, Like not shaky enough to where
you're like, you know what, maybe we should get Kenny
Minshey ready the backup shakey as in, he was so
good so early that you kind of expected that this
is gonna he was gonna have a dip. Like the
way he's the way he's running around, the way he
(45:51):
ran around against USC. I can't stand that because he
did the same thing against Miami. Yeah that happened, that
ended in a touchdown. This would this ended in a
bad pick, like just throw the ball away, get three points,
live to fight another down instead of being like I'm
just gonna I'm just gonna make something happen. So CJ.
Carr has been really good. And the part of the
(46:12):
problem is CJ.
Speaker 1 (46:13):
Carr set the.
Speaker 3 (46:13):
Bar so high so early in the season that he's
got to play really well to meet that standard every
single week.
Speaker 1 (46:20):
Tom Noy is our guest South Ben and Tribune, where
you can read his work. He's on the Java House
Peel and Poor Guest line talking about Notre Dame and
Indiana for that matter. Tom One of the things to
me in college football this year that is interesting. I mean,
I think Ohio State is outstanding, right and I think
I really feel like Ryan Day hasn't even taken the
governor off the engine yet. I mean, you know what
(46:41):
I mean. They I just I think the world of
Ohio State, even though I don't like him, But it
seems to be a wide open year this year, I
mean outside of and that's why I'm really optimistic for Indiana,
partially because Indiana, also, I think is really good. But
who's a dominant team in college football? We haven't mentioned Alabama?
Speaker 3 (47:04):
Yeah, I mean because of what happened that first week
where it was like, what do you know, Taylin Debora,
He's gonna get fired, he loses, that's Florida State. They
just quietly, just like Notre Dame has done, has done,
they step back into the shadows, keep working, keep winning,
keep getting better. Talk about Ohio State, talk about Indiana,
(47:24):
talk about the de Grease fire at Penn State. We're
just going to be Alabama right here, and we're going
to be Tennessee and then we're gonna get ready and
we're going to finish out the SEC schedule. I think
Alabama is a lot better than what teams than a
lot of people give him credit for, because of what
happened the way they started the year.
Speaker 1 (47:42):
You know, if you I mean, I don't know how
old I would have to be to truly grasp that
Vanderbilt and Indiana are ranked in the top ten. Oh
what the hell's going on? Tom? What are we doing here? Right?
Speaker 3 (47:55):
Is this?
Speaker 1 (47:55):
Honestly? Like I feel like Bob Gregor is going to
come out and tell me that actually what we're watching
is the brain game, right.
Speaker 3 (48:02):
Let's throw Georgia Tech in there too.
Speaker 1 (48:04):
Yeah, Georgia Tech. Listen, I watched Georgia Tech eviscerate my
Clemson Tigers, and Clemson that's a whole different talk show, right.
I mean, I don't know what the heck's going on there,
But again I think Tom, and you tell me if
if I'm making too much of this Indiana and that story. Yes,
(48:26):
Kurt Signetti was a tremendous hire by Scott Dolson, and
yes they they have done a remarkable job. And I
think one of the things though for Indiana that when
the thirty for thirty comes out that needs to be
discussed is Indiana was at the forefront in terms of
(48:46):
nil collectives and it was the perfect storm in college
football in the last three to five years. The perfect
storm was developing for someone to jump in and take
over the wheel in the left lane, and that's someone
in the Big ten. Was Indiana? Am I wrong? No?
Speaker 3 (49:06):
And have others? And that would allow other schools to
be like, you know what, we can make that sort
of commitment and get that serious about football, which is
why Kurt Netty does not have to go to Penn State.
He can do everything he wants to do and accomplish
everything that people want him to accomplish at a place
like Indiana. And five years ago we would never have
(49:26):
said that, nor would we would have dreamed it. But
this is college football now, where you can win in Indiana,
you can win at Vanderbilt, you can win at Georgia Tech.
You could go to Penn State and have everything collapse.
It's not just a core four or five, six, seven
different programs. Everybody has a chance in this new revenue
(49:47):
sharing and paying players era that we are in in
college football today.
Speaker 1 (49:52):
And Tom doesn't Penn State football kind of feel like
what Indiana basketball went through in a coaching search year
in a year out of like a lot of big
time coaches. I think, look at it and go, why
would I go there?
Speaker 3 (50:03):
Like? I wouldn't want that mess? Would you? Like James Franklin. Yeah,
I know his record was against top twenty five teams
and big, big games and all those other failures. But
the guy did win ten eleven games, ten eleven games,
ten eleven games, and it still wasn't good enough. That's
that's a that's a pretty hard sell for the next guy.
(50:23):
I know it's Fenn State and everything, but you got
to you got to the freaking national semi final game
a year ago, and all of a sudden, now you're
on the unemployment line.
Speaker 1 (50:32):
Now. I trademarked the phrase why not Indiana, which I'm
very proud of, by the way, and I'm thinking now
about and let me tell you something, there's no biggest,
no bigger pain arduous, you know, long drawn out process
in the keyster like getting a trademark. It's it's a nightmare.
But I did do it. I would trademark query theory
(50:52):
except for that it's technically querry. And my dad was
very clear about the fact that I need to make
sure that people know that it's querry or not that.
But but I kind of like that, do you want
the trademark first DIBs on that or should I go
ahead and roll with that.
Speaker 3 (51:04):
It's yours, Like I said, it's your show, mom man.
Speaker 1 (51:07):
All right, Well, always appreciate it's always accentuated by your
visits though we greatly appreciate it absolutely, all right, Tom
Nooyd joining us South Bend Tribune. Appreciate the time Tom
as always, and have a great week. Java House peel
and poor Guess line
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