December 18, 2025 • 29 mins
Today’s Best of Features:
(00:00-09:43) – Tony East from Locked On Pacers, Forbes Sports, and Circle City Spin, joins the show to give his perspective on where Pascal Siakam is mentally with the Pacers struggling and him having one of the best seasons of his career. Jake also asks Tony about tonight’s game for the Pacers against the New York Knicks and assesses who could be seeing more minutes the further along in the season we go so the team can get a look at some guys.
(09:43-17:28) – Adam Alexander joins the show to provide an some information on what he knows about the plane crash linked to Greg Biffle in North Carolina today, shares some things that he know about Biffle, and highlights some of his accomplishments in NASCAR.
(17:28-29:31) – The voice of the Indianapolis Colts, Matt Taylor, makes his weekly appearance on the show to preview the upcoming game for the Colts against the San Francisco 49ers, provides an injury update on some of the Colts players that weren’t at practice today, and plays along with some of technical issues.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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(00:21):
locked on Pacers amongst others, talking about the Pacers who
have New York Tonight, Tony. It's been kind of this
layoff period here for the Pacers and now back in
the mix. One of the things I find interesting that
we have talked about, and yes, people look at it
and say, why are they talking about ten day contracts
or one year G League contracts, et cetera. But it
(00:41):
seems as though Rick Carlisle has been able to kind
of masterfully audition players for depth pieces while still working
it into a system that is allowing them to be
somewhat competitive with in games. Who is the latest now
that we're looking at as hmmm, are they giving this
an audition?
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Yes, I would love to answer that, but I would
actually like to ask a favor of you, Jake, can
you make the noise again that the coffee water interaction makes.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
Yeah, thank you for asking that. That's Java House. And
when you put it in, it's re instantly. And that's
the thing. It doesn't do this. It doesn't do this,
tonty Okay. A lot of times you get one that
does this. That's true, and then you think you're cat's
hyperventilating and it takes forever.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
You don't need you just literally you put it in.
Ret there it is.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
I really enjoyed that on my lead in hearing you
make the exact interaction.
Speaker 4 (01:37):
Java House is lovely.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
By the way, Yes, they signed the Pacers signed Game
of glossin this week to a ten day deal.
Speaker 4 (01:43):
Another hardship. There's sixth to one.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
I don't think I had covered a single hardship signing
ever for the Pacers before the season, and now they've
done six in less than two months, which you know,
we could talk and we will talk about how good
the team is doing and what they are what they're
not doing well, and why they're six and twenty and
things of that nature, and like there are real answers
to that. But then you're like, oh, yeah, They've been
that level of injured all season. Right now, with Ben Shepherd,
(02:06):
Aaron the Smith and Obi topping out, their biggest need
is a forward, and McLoughlin's been playing pretty well for
the Noblesville Boom. He many will remember he played in
the preseason for the Pacers, right so he knows the
system well. The Boom are pretty similar in how they play.
I'll bee it with different players than the Pacers, and
this one's a little different to me than there are
other hardship signings they've done before.
Speaker 4 (02:26):
When they signed like Garris Matthews.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
And Cody Martin and Jeremi Robinson Meeral, those guys all
played like immediately they were in the rotation their very
first games. I don't think they need Gabe to be
playing right away, but if you have the resource, it
does make sense to add some depth like their foul trouble.
Speaker 4 (02:43):
Or an injury away for meeting them forward.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Now they get to do their Boom call up and
keep evaluating what they need because I think between Furfey
and Walker, you know, not showing a ton recently, and
you know some of these wings we're talking about what
Ethan Thompson's in on this two way, Like they're really
looking at who's helping them win now and who can
help them win next year on certain deals because they
as much as this season is about what it's about,
(03:05):
also about figuring out what's gonna make the next year
Pacers with tyres Helburn back as good as possible.
Speaker 4 (03:10):
So I think that's part of the in and.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Out iness of a lot of these contracts is trying
to figure out which of these guys could be the
best to answer that question.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
Tony, when you look at the last two games, Okay,
Tony East, my guest Joba House Peel and poor guest
line Philly and Washington. Now Philly's a little bit different
because Joel Embiid somehow found this like fountain of youth
and he was the Joel embiide of old. But in
terms of Washington, the lackluster, just effort of that. Every
team has games like that. But are we starting to
(03:40):
see finally the mental fatigue that can set in when
a team has everything they're going up against that this
one has had.
Speaker 4 (03:49):
But perhaps that's what happened. I mean that was did
you go to that game, Jake?
Speaker 5 (03:53):
Were you there?
Speaker 4 (03:54):
I mean that was hideous.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
I was not there actually one of I think that's
the only game I've not been to this year. Maybe
that's the problem because I don't know if you know
this about Tony, but typically when I walk into the arena,
you hear it instant energy, right.
Speaker 4 (04:08):
Yeah, it was.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
It was bizarre, And you're right that it happens every year,
Like I think you were at this game. Last year,
they had that Cup game against the Miami Heat where
Rick just benched the entire starting.
Speaker 4 (04:17):
Five in the third quarter like that.
Speaker 5 (04:19):
Every year, every.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
Team has one or two games where there's just no energy.
That's not to say it's like acceptable. It's never good
every every single time it happens, but it does happen.
But it is, you know, super concerning. When it happens
against the Wizards on your home floor. Do you just
get completely embarrassed by the worst team in the NBA
And they all acknowledged postgame like yeah, that we can't
have that it can happen. Part of me wonders if
you know, they played bad in the first quarter, and
(04:40):
Carlisle noted that post game, even though they were winning
at that time, if they thought they didn't need you know,
like that's fine. You know, we're playing a bad team.
We'll figure it out and win. And they I think
they got it's like seven in the third quarter or something,
but you know, with that level of effort, they had
no chance. They had no chance to win that game.
They never got good shot. They shot undred forty percent
against the wars the event in the.
Speaker 4 (05:00):
League, and they lost.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
And you do wonder, and you know, there's that shot
of Siakam on the bench like, you know, looking like
what's happening, like shocked almost, like what kind of toll
losses can play? And you know, no, no pro athlete
likes losing, especially when you've now lost at home to
the Brooklyn Nets and the Washington Wizards in the same season.
Speaker 4 (05:17):
They have not beaten over five hundred team as of
right now.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Maybe the Warriors get there eventually, but they haven't played
well this season at all, and eventually, it does, you know,
wear on you, and it's it's gonna hit different, I
think for these players too, because it sucks, but they
know it's going to end right because they should. Even
if Alburn is not as good, post Achilles be good next.
Speaker 4 (05:37):
Year, right, So they know they have to like take
their lungs.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
But that doesn't make it easier in the moment when
you're getting smoked at home by the worst team and
I think they they had a strong week of responsive practices.
Speaker 4 (05:47):
To it, but I mean, game like that just can't happen, right,
it was.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
Even in a season like this where losses aren't as
painful as there are in other seasons, Like you get
nothing from that when you lose to Philly and you're
winning in the fourth quarter and you show some good
defensive things against non NB players and your role players
are out of really great games, like that's good.
Speaker 4 (06:06):
You learn something from that.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
Those guys get extra valuable experience from playing well against
a good team.
Speaker 4 (06:12):
When you get completely punked against.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
The Wizards in a no after game, sure the result
might be fine to some bands, like you get nothing
from that as the paser's like nothing, So they just
can't have games like that.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
How would you assess Tony Tony East my guest the
mindset So far, he has been a pros pro, But
you do feel bad for Pascal Siakam just because he's
been the one stable player right into you know that
has not missed time, and yet he's got different guys
around him.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
Seemingly all the time.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
Have you seen any indication at all that Siakam is
approaching being over it?
Speaker 3 (06:49):
I mean over it as in, yeah, that's that's an
extreme that's an extreme case.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
I don't mean that would be the case, but where
he is getting fatigued by it.
Speaker 5 (06:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
I think you said that like early when they were
you know whatever, it was too and eight or whatever,
and they lost that tight game to the Bucks at
the Buzzer, and you know, he was answering a lot
of questions about like just how frustrating it is that
at that time they were at least playing okay, but
they just couldn't win.
Speaker 4 (07:13):
And you know, he talked about how much they wanted
to turn it.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
Around, and you know, how frustrating was that they were
having good stretches and then they played awful on that
road trip and for a few games at home. And
that's when I think you saw the frustration really said
in for him, because I mean, the Pacers record is
so bad that they probably don't deserve an All Star
and the actors like that. But if you just stack
up Siakam stats to everybody in the NBA, like he
definitely deserves it, Like he's I think like three or
(07:38):
four guys are matching his per game points, rebounds, assists numbers,
and you know, he's been awesome for them, and like
when he's on the floor with the second unit, that
group looks good, like they're not rating when he's on
the floor is pretty pretty acceptable even for a bad team.
But then they lose and it's very little to do
with the He was not good against the Wizards, to
be clear, So I was wonderful guy, like he has
(07:59):
always had.
Speaker 4 (07:59):
Win at his center, like since here, since winning.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
A title, Like he talked about part of why he
you know, maybe was interested in coming here from Toronto
being that you know, Toronto wasn't winning as much anymore
and he missed that feeling.
Speaker 4 (08:11):
And he's a very simple guy. And then you know,
a bunch.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Of his teammates got paid a couple summers ago, and
he would he answered one question one time and talked
about how you know, if you win a lot.
Speaker 4 (08:20):
You'll get paid.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
And you know, it's like it's always just been who
he is and what's a big part of him in
the NBA and the Pincers are not doing that right
now and you can see it on his face during games,
and you can hear it.
Speaker 4 (08:30):
By what he says postgame.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
But I think he also knows that Tyre Salburn will
be back next year, so he's kind of the face
of what I'm talking about of it's it sucks like
these guys thought they'd be better. They know they're good players,
but they're not winning at all. But they know that,
you know, brighter days are coming, and so they kind
of just have to take it, which makes it way
more difficult in the moment.
Speaker 4 (08:49):
Maybe there'll be a point where they realize that it
won't be so bad.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
It's only one season, but you know, one seasons a
long time in the NBA, and at six and twenty
is not a fun stretch for anybody.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
Tony East again locked on Pacers Forbes. Hear him on
this radio show as well on the Java House, Peel
and Poor Guest Line Pacers next tonight at Gambridge Field House.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
Tony appreciate it as always.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
I hope they make a video of you doing that
for like an advert or make me very well listen.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
I've never really even thought about the fact I do it.
It just it just naturally. I'm like a walking harmonica.
It's one of them.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
Go ahead.
Speaker 4 (09:23):
My wife makes realy noises like that. I always say,
what was back? Can you repeat that? And she says
one time deal. So I'm glad you actually went through
with it and repeated the whole exchange.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
For me, a man of limited talents has to weigh
in and lean in on any talent that may be
found Tony.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
So yes, we do.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
All right, We'll be looking for the coverage to the
next game tonight. I appreciate it.
Speaker 4 (09:41):
You got it.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
Joining me now in the Java House, Peel and poor
guest line Adam Alexander. Of course, I think everybody knows.
Longtime brotherlike friend of mine and NASCAR announcer NASCAR on
the CW Prime Video as well, also has worked in
a number of different capacity for organizations covering NASCAR and
in that capacity working with alongside interviewing, et cetera, Greg Biffle. Now,
(10:08):
I want to be very clear, there are reports, of course,
what we know at this point is this a plane
that is owned by Greg Biffle's Aviation Corporation crashed in
North Carolina this morning, and officials have said there were
fatalities on board. While it is not officially confirmed that
(10:29):
that was Greg Biffle and his family. There are those
that are saying that that is the case, but Adam,
working with NASCAR, wanted to get you on. Adam, I
appreciate it under what is obviously a still developing story
and one that we don't know confirmation on. But is
there anything that I did not mention there that in
(10:52):
North Carolina you are hearing that I did not cover.
Speaker 5 (10:55):
No, I think you said it correctly.
Speaker 6 (10:57):
There are those that are sending, you know, condolences to
Greg's family, and while that would certainly be what you
want to do in these circumstances, there have been.
Speaker 5 (11:07):
No official reports.
Speaker 6 (11:09):
There was a press conference I would say in the
last ninety minutes, a couple of hours something like that
that walked through the details of you know, the planes
took off from Statesville, it returned, you know, obviously there
was some sort of an issue and then and then
the plane crash occurred when they were returning to the airport,
and you said there were fatalities, but those names have
(11:31):
not been officially released.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
Did they mention in it, Adam?
Speaker 1 (11:35):
And if you didn't hear, you know, that's but to
your recollection or understanding, did they mention the possibility that
there would have been any survivors of said crash.
Speaker 6 (11:44):
They did not mention that the number. The last number
that I heard and read in the reports were that
there were five fatalities, and so, you know, and I
don't know how much you know, they covered that side
of it in the you know, the press conference, but
(12:05):
of course, you know, anytime you know, plane takes off,
there's a list of passengers in the manifold, and I
don't know how that differentiates on those local on those
private aircrafts in comparison to commercial aircraft, but I know
that they have checks and balances that they go through
as well, and so I'm sure there's a record of
(12:27):
you know, how many people were on board and all
of that, but I don't know how much of that
has been released, and I'm not aware of all those
exact details.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
Have you worked, Adam, with Greg Biffel directly, I.
Speaker 6 (12:40):
Have, you know, I work at the first rates I
ever did with MRN Radio in the fall of two thousand.
That night Greg clinched his first Truck Series championship and
that was kind of the beginning of him becoming one
of NASCAR's great stars. And you know, the last time
that I've visited with Greg was about a year ago
(13:02):
at NASCAR's awards ceremony wrapping up the twenty twenty four season,
and Greg was recognized with the Myers Brothers Award, which
is given to someone who is a great contributor to
their community from the NASCAR world, and it was given
to Greg because Greg, you know, who has always been
(13:24):
noted for his you know, aviation side of things.
Speaker 5 (13:28):
You know, utilized his.
Speaker 6 (13:29):
Helicopter pilot's license to deliver food and goods and help
those that were negatively impacted by Hurricane Halleen. And he
didn't just jump in and help, he really led the movement.
And so it was that night that you know, Greg
was recognized for you know, his heroic acts and his
selfless acts through a very difficult time in the North
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Carolina Tennessee region. And that's probably the last time that
Greg and I spent time together. But obviously I was
around and followed his career when he was on track
winning a truck title in Eccinity Championship and then you
know the years that he was competing at NASCAR's top
level and winning races.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
Yeah, and obviously you know, one of those guys that
Adam Greg Biffle as a driver was one that and
he did not win a Cup championship, right, But that's
not to say that there weren't years that he was
in contention and at heading down the home stretch of
the seasons, right.
Speaker 6 (14:23):
Right, Yeah, I think he had nineteen Cup victories, never
won a championship at the top level, but knocked on
the door, was in the hunt, certainly in the prime
of his career. Was considered one of the best drivers
in NASCAR, was named, you know, one of the top
seventy five drivers, has been a finalist for the Hall
of Fame, and so yeah, very well respected in someone
that is noted as one of the best to ever
(14:45):
do it.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
Adam, to your knowledge, did Greg Biffle? This is inconsequential?
I realized I'm not. But I'm just strictly out of curiosity.
I know that he had a vast aviation background and interest,
as you mentioned, and was well noted for his heroic
efforts helping out folks using his helicopters after that hurricane.
Was he himself an airline pilot or an aircraft pilot?
Speaker 6 (15:08):
I don't know that. I you know, I'm not positive
on that side. I was reminded last year when he
got so involved and taking his helicopter around and helping
everyone after Hurricane Haleen. I was reminded, you know, about
his fondness for aviation and you know how much time
you know.
Speaker 5 (15:28):
He spent on that side.
Speaker 6 (15:29):
But I don't know, you know where he sit into
that as far as all the license and he had
when when it comes to the various aircrafts.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
So Greg Biffle again, it's safe to say, Adam, and
I'm gonna say it in in current state because we
don't have any confirmation here, but Greg Biffle talented race
car driver, personable guy from what I could know of him,
pretty humble dude, right and just overall, you know, a
(15:59):
people first, humanitarian guy.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
Safe to say no doubt.
Speaker 6 (16:03):
I mean, you know, he was a true competitor and
you can you know, you can go to YouTube and
you can find clips to find out what a true
competitor he was. But always handled his success with tremendous
humility and grace and as he you know, had retired
even though he was no longer someone that you saw
(16:24):
at the track week to week and the younger fans
probably didn't realize what he had meant to the sport
at one time. He continued to use the platform that
he had created as a very successful race car driver
to give and to help out others. So there's no
no question he's a tremendous guy and you know, one
(16:45):
that was always ready to give it back and help
it any way possible.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
Well, Adam, I appreciate you coming on in, you know,
literally like spontaneous moment when I reached out to you
about this. We'll hope for the best on the story
itself and wait for confirmation as to what happened. The
reality is whether or not it was Greg Biffel. You know,
there was a loss of life and you never want
to see that in any situation or story, and certainly
(17:11):
thoughts with those that were impacted by it. Adam short notice,
I realize appreciate it. Happy Holidays by all means, and
Merry Christmas to your dad, the rest of your family
and everybody down there. Thanks, thank you, Jake, Adam Alexander
joining me on the Java House Peel and poor guest line. Okay,
so let's find out what's going on out at West
fifty sixth. Matt Taylor is the voice of the Indianapolis Colts.
(17:35):
Joins us now on the Java House Peel and Poor
Guest line courtesy of Shelby Materials. Matt, let's get right
to this, Bernard Ryman, Sauce Gardner.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
Those guys are.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
Not on the practice field today, but everything's kind of
staggered today because it's a Monday night game. Is there
still possibility that those guys could get out before we
get to the game with San Francisco.
Speaker 6 (17:56):
Yeah, So think of it like today is Thursday, but
in in NFL terms, when you're playing on Monday, it's
kind of like a Wednesday. It's like the first day
of practice and guys getting on the field again following
the last week's game against Seattle. So it's not all
that uncommon for a guy, you know, to sit on
(18:16):
Wednesday and then come back to practice on a normal
Thursday or Friday, in this case, Friday Saturday leading into
Monday night football. So you know, I don't think the
bells and whistles and alarms are going off just yet,
but we'll see. We'll have more of a better indication
tomorrow and those guys' status because tomorrow, even though it's Friday,
it's like a Thursday practice.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
And we at this point it appears clear Shane Sdeikeen,
And you tell me if I'm paraphrasing or Shane Steykeens
said it out right. Philip Rivers is starting Monday night,
right he is?
Speaker 6 (18:49):
Yep, And I get the indication that Philip is probably
going to be their guy the rest of the season.
Speaker 3 (18:56):
Matt.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
The question I have there is this, Seeattle, I thought personally,
and listen, you know you're up there with a bird's
eye view of it all, So feel free to either
fill in holes here or flat out tell me no,
that's not really how it worked. But it seemed to
me in that game against Seattle. Did Seattle spent say,
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the first quarter to quarter and a half kind of
feeling out exactly what the Colts offense was going to
be under Philip Rivers and then they adjusted what they
needed to do to constantly spy on Jonathan Taylor and
then just kind of keep Philip Rivers in check because
they knew that he was limited in terms of the
long field velocity. And my concern would be that San
(19:39):
Francisco now has that blueprint and pushes all in on
that Is that fair?
Speaker 6 (19:45):
Yeah, I mean what you saw throughout the course of
that game was, I mean, Seattle's got a really good
defensive line anyway, so they were still getting pressure and
still kind of impacting the game what they're front four.
Speaker 5 (19:55):
But what you saw them do.
Speaker 6 (19:57):
Throughout the course of that game or kind of adjust to,
was they're not going to.
Speaker 5 (20:01):
Blitz Philip Rivers.
Speaker 6 (20:03):
They're gonna get after him with his front with their
front four, but they're gonna play really tight on the
outside and make those throwing windows, you know, in the angles,
pretty pretty sharp and hard to fit the football into.
So that's kind of what happened, is you know, they
would they were kind of foolish and and blitzing him
early in the game, and then he would throw it
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to where the blitz was coming from. And that's how
the Colts were getting some first downs and staying on schedule.
And you know, that's the thing about you know that
that game plan this week is you know, I know
it wasn't aesthetically awesome to watch, but it almost worked
considering how well the defense played. And you go back
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and you kind of look at the box score or
like the game notes, like the game book if you will.
I mean, the Colts said they had nine persons in
that game prior to the last possession where they turn
it over, and they only had the one play on
the interception, but take that one out. They had nine
drives for the game and they reached plus territory in
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six of them. And so that's how I think, you
know the forty nine ers are going to play going
forward is you know, they're not going to probably send
a lot of pressure on Philip Rivers, but they're gonna
play pretty tight on the outside and make it tough.
You know, based on his skill set and his age
at forty four and not being really mobile, they're going
to be you know, they're going to, I think, be
(21:26):
pretty concentrated on shutting down the free releases on the
outside from guys like Pierce and Pittman and take away
the deep ball and again make those throwing angles pretty
sharp for him to fit the ball into at the
line of scrimmage.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
I was intrigued by and a little bit impressed by
Matt the use of a mir Abdullah out of the
backfield and just kind of the incorporation of that wrinkle.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
Yeah, is that because here's.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
A guy that finally they found maybe some looks that
they liked, or was it more so Philip Rivers has
always had that kind of an out of the back
field kind of guy, and it fit with what they
wanted to do and was a comfort zone for Rivers,
and therefore Abdullah was able to answer that bell.
Speaker 6 (22:08):
Yeah, I mean Darren Sproles Niam Hines when he was
here with Philip Rivers in twenty twenty. I mean, he
loves throwing the backs out of the backfield and he
knows exactly where those guys are going to be. And
if you play with Philip Rivers as a running back,
you got to be where you're supposed to be because
he knows where you're supposed to be, probably better than
you do. And so you know, that's that's always a
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safety valve for him, especially with you know how the
Seahawks were playing that game. Get the ball out quick,
get it out on time, and let guys with better
athleticism than Philip Rivers go out there and make plays
and get yards after the catch. I mean that jerk
router to that, that's sort of like you know, hard
angle route that they ran with some mere Abdula was
(22:49):
really productive. They probably ran it three or four times
and they hit it for some big yards, and so
that's what I think you're going to see a lot
of you know, check down to the tailor check downs
over the middle to Abdullah. I love what they did
on that quick screen on the first completion of the game.
Speaker 5 (23:06):
Uh, that wide receiver screen Pittman.
Speaker 6 (23:08):
I mean, these are all kind of like extensions of
the running game where you know.
Speaker 5 (23:12):
If you hit them, that's that's good.
Speaker 6 (23:14):
And you know if they go for if they break
for you know, big yards after the catch, your yards
after contact, that's that's great. You take those. But those
are those are you know, implemented to keep you on
the field and set you up on you know, third
and three, third and four.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (23:30):
I mean, obviously it goes without saying third and long
for Philip rivers is not a recipe for success, especially
when you're you know, kind of stacked up in your
own territory, which they were a couple of times at
the beginning of that game. But you know, inevitably they're
gonna have to be a little bit more you know,
for whatever, for lack of a better term, they're gonna
have to be more open they're gonna have to be, uh,
they're gonna have to open the playbook and and uh
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be a little bit more aggressive in their game plan.
I mean, I think, you know, it sounds cliche, but
there's always away to win every game. And the way
they approach that game in Seattle on the road against
that defense with the crowd, I thought was the appropriate
way to try to win that game. And again, the
defense allowed you to stay in that game. But inevitably,
you know, you're just shoot two hundred and fifteen yards
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of offense and just a hair over sixty of that
comes in second half and only four first downs past halftime.
That's just not a winning formula. Everybody knows that. So
we're going to see if Phil Philip Rivers can implement
more of the you know, the intermediate part of the
passing game and get guys like Peterson Pittman a little
bit more involved.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
By the way, Eddie, So we haven't gotten totally into
helium tank category, but it sounds like Matt's taking a
couple of hits off the balloon of it, right, isn't
that right? Okay, Matt, we working through some of the
kings here with the move occasionally it will kind of
speed up somebody's voice.
Speaker 3 (24:49):
So at the end and you're you're a team player
in this.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
We've gotten Now, let's see, we've got Joela Ericson, We've
got Don Fisher. Now not Don Fisher, Stephanie White, Joela
Ericson free if we've had a couple of really good
follow the yellompic roads and we're gonna get one from
you on the way out, and then kind of judge
you versus others to see how good a member you
are of the Lollipop Guild.
Speaker 6 (25:11):
Okay, I said, like Alvin and the Chipmunks paper, what's
going up?
Speaker 3 (25:15):
Yeah, a little bit like Theodore a little bit.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
Can you tell me that you want a hula hoop?
Can I just get you say he'd like a hula
hoop for Christmas?
Speaker 3 (25:25):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (25:25):
Chris Mas, Chris math No, come on now, I can
jive with you. All right.
Speaker 3 (25:34):
The laugh is strong as well.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
But while we have you, before we go full helium here,
what do we know about San Francisco And just maybe
what Shane Stikeen has said in terms of the challenge
they create or the areas that the Colts can exploit.
Speaker 6 (25:47):
Yeah, I mean defensively, you know, I think there's some
remnants of the Gus Bradley approach and his methodology on defense.
I mean, you kind of look at them on the
big picture on that side of the ball. I mean,
first of all, they've just been ransacked with injury with
with Nick Bosa out and then you've got the injury
to Fred Warner. They're all Pro linebacker. Those guys are
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out for this season, and it's not really I mean,
unless you live in the Bay Area and you're a
die hard forty nine Ers fan, there's not a lot
of household names left on that side of the football.
But collectively, you know, they're kind of middle of the
pack defensively, you know, right in line with the Gus
Bradley era here with the Colts. They give up a
high completion percentage, right around sixty eight percent. So you know,
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they don't do a lot of things great. They don't
do They're not deficient in a ton of areas. But
the one area that they really just don't get a
whole lot of production from is their pass rush. They
only have sixteen sacks as a team through the first
fourteen games of the season. I think they only have
three guys on the roster right now that have more
than three sacks on the year. And then again, I
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think it probably goes without saying. On offense, the the
trio of Brock Purty and Christian McCaffrey and George Kittle.
I mean, those guys kind of drive the ship on
that side of the ball. You know, wide receivers are involved,
but not greatly. It's it's more so the Kittle and
McCaffrey show. And then it's just kind of a little
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bit of a sidebar. It's gonna be fun with with
Jonathan Taylor and Christian McCaffrey on the same game field
for the first time in their careers, right it's gonna
be the first time to actually play quote unquote against
each other, even though you know both guys are on
an offense. You get what I'm saying. But these guys
are both top three in scrimmage yards this year.
Speaker 5 (27:41):
They're each of them.
Speaker 6 (27:42):
Are over two and fifty carries on the season, so
heavy workload for their respective running backs in this game.
And then with McCaffrey, as we know too, he's one
of the best pass catching backs out of the backfield
since he broke in the league in twenty seventeen, so
you got to know where McCaffrey is twenty three, and
then keep an eye out for George Kittle, because those
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two guys are basically the stars of their show. On offense.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
Okay, Matt on the way out, and I'll give you
your your pick here. You can give me a line
from Alvin. You can give me a we represent the
Lollipop Guild, or you can give me a follow of
the Yellow Brick Road.
Speaker 3 (28:18):
Which one would you like?
Speaker 6 (28:19):
Well, you said the other guys went went with the
with the Wizard of Oz. So give me Alvin. Give
me give me an alvinism.
Speaker 3 (28:27):
What I guess you would just say that you want
a hula hoop for Christmas? Right?
Speaker 6 (28:31):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (28:32):
I mean, how about this? You simply say, uh, I
just want to wholah hoop.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
But you got there, you go and just in your
normal voice, you don't need to alvanize it. The ur
elixer does it for you.
Speaker 6 (28:47):
I'm just gonna piss off Dave Seville real quick and
get everybody riled up here. So me I want ah.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
All right, enjoy of course, you know we got a
Monday show to do as well. And then Monday Night football.
It will be the Indiana Night's version of the Colts
uniforms and the San Francisco forty nine ers appreciate it.
Speaker 6 (29:12):
Matt, all Right, that was not on my bucket list
today or my beingo guitars.
Speaker 4 (29:16):
I don't even.
Speaker 6 (29:19):
A day in the life in this show man, Holy smoke.
Speaker 3 (29:26):
Thanks Eddie, Eddie, I think on the floor now
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locked on Pacers amongst others, talking about the Pacers who
have New York Tonight, Tony. It's been kind of this
layoff period here for the Pacers and now back in
the mix. One of the things I find interesting that
we have talked about, and yes, people look at it
and say, why are they talking about ten day contracts
or one year G League contracts, et cetera. But it
(00:41):
seems as though Rick Carlisle has been able to kind
of masterfully audition players for depth pieces while still working
it into a system that is allowing them to be
somewhat competitive with in games. Who is the latest now
that we're looking at as hmmm, are they giving this
an audition?
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Yes, I would love to answer that, but I would
actually like to ask a favor of you, Jake, can
you make the noise again that the coffee water interaction makes.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
Yeah, thank you for asking that. That's Java House. And
when you put it in, it's re instantly. And that's
the thing. It doesn't do this. It doesn't do this,
tonty Okay. A lot of times you get one that
does this. That's true, and then you think you're cat's
hyperventilating and it takes forever.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
You don't need you just literally you put it in.
Ret there it is.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
I really enjoyed that on my lead in hearing you
make the exact interaction.
Speaker 4 (01:37):
Java House is lovely.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
By the way, Yes, they signed the Pacers signed Game
of glossin this week to a ten day deal.
Speaker 4 (01:43):
Another hardship. There's sixth to one.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
I don't think I had covered a single hardship signing
ever for the Pacers before the season, and now they've
done six in less than two months, which you know,
we could talk and we will talk about how good
the team is doing and what they are what they're
not doing well, and why they're six and twenty and
things of that nature, and like there are real answers
to that. But then you're like, oh, yeah, They've been
that level of injured all season. Right now, with Ben Shepherd,
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Aaron the Smith and Obi topping out, their biggest need
is a forward, and McLoughlin's been playing pretty well for
the Noblesville Boom. He many will remember he played in
the preseason for the Pacers, right so he knows the
system well. The Boom are pretty similar in how they play.
I'll bee it with different players than the Pacers, and
this one's a little different to me than there are
other hardship signings they've done before.
Speaker 4 (02:26):
When they signed like Garris Matthews.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
And Cody Martin and Jeremi Robinson Meeral, those guys all
played like immediately they were in the rotation their very
first games. I don't think they need Gabe to be
playing right away, but if you have the resource, it
does make sense to add some depth like their foul trouble.
Speaker 4 (02:43):
Or an injury away for meeting them forward.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Now they get to do their Boom call up and
keep evaluating what they need because I think between Furfey
and Walker, you know, not showing a ton recently, and
you know some of these wings we're talking about what
Ethan Thompson's in on this two way, Like they're really
looking at who's helping them win now and who can
help them win next year on certain deals because they
as much as this season is about what it's about,
(03:05):
also about figuring out what's gonna make the next year
Pacers with tyres Helburn back as good as possible.
Speaker 4 (03:10):
So I think that's part of the in and.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Out iness of a lot of these contracts is trying
to figure out which of these guys could be the
best to answer that question.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
Tony, when you look at the last two games, Okay,
Tony East, my guest Joba House Peel and poor guest
line Philly and Washington. Now Philly's a little bit different
because Joel Embiid somehow found this like fountain of youth
and he was the Joel embiide of old. But in
terms of Washington, the lackluster, just effort of that. Every
team has games like that. But are we starting to
(03:40):
see finally the mental fatigue that can set in when
a team has everything they're going up against that this
one has had.
Speaker 4 (03:49):
But perhaps that's what happened. I mean that was did
you go to that game, Jake?
Speaker 5 (03:53):
Were you there?
Speaker 4 (03:54):
I mean that was hideous.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
I was not there actually one of I think that's
the only game I've not been to this year. Maybe
that's the problem because I don't know if you know
this about Tony, but typically when I walk into the arena,
you hear it instant energy, right.
Speaker 4 (04:08):
Yeah, it was.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
It was bizarre, And you're right that it happens every year,
Like I think you were at this game. Last year,
they had that Cup game against the Miami Heat where
Rick just benched the entire starting.
Speaker 4 (04:17):
Five in the third quarter like that.
Speaker 5 (04:19):
Every year, every.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
Team has one or two games where there's just no energy.
That's not to say it's like acceptable. It's never good
every every single time it happens, but it does happen.
But it is, you know, super concerning. When it happens
against the Wizards on your home floor. Do you just
get completely embarrassed by the worst team in the NBA
And they all acknowledged postgame like yeah, that we can't
have that it can happen. Part of me wonders if
you know, they played bad in the first quarter, and
(04:40):
Carlisle noted that post game, even though they were winning
at that time, if they thought they didn't need you know,
like that's fine. You know, we're playing a bad team.
We'll figure it out and win. And they I think
they got it's like seven in the third quarter or something,
but you know, with that level of effort, they had
no chance. They had no chance to win that game.
They never got good shot. They shot undred forty percent
against the wars the event in the.
Speaker 4 (05:00):
League, and they lost.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
And you do wonder, and you know, there's that shot
of Siakam on the bench like, you know, looking like
what's happening, like shocked almost, like what kind of toll
losses can play? And you know, no, no pro athlete
likes losing, especially when you've now lost at home to
the Brooklyn Nets and the Washington Wizards in the same season.
Speaker 4 (05:17):
They have not beaten over five hundred team as of
right now.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Maybe the Warriors get there eventually, but they haven't played
well this season at all, and eventually, it does, you know,
wear on you, and it's it's gonna hit different, I
think for these players too, because it sucks, but they
know it's going to end right because they should. Even
if Alburn is not as good, post Achilles be good next.
Speaker 4 (05:37):
Year, right, So they know they have to like take
their lungs.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
But that doesn't make it easier in the moment when
you're getting smoked at home by the worst team and
I think they they had a strong week of responsive practices.
Speaker 4 (05:47):
To it, but I mean, game like that just can't happen, right,
it was.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
Even in a season like this where losses aren't as
painful as there are in other seasons, Like you get
nothing from that when you lose to Philly and you're
winning in the fourth quarter and you show some good
defensive things against non NB players and your role players
are out of really great games, like that's good.
Speaker 4 (06:06):
You learn something from that.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
Those guys get extra valuable experience from playing well against
a good team.
Speaker 4 (06:12):
When you get completely punked against.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
The Wizards in a no after game, sure the result
might be fine to some bands, like you get nothing
from that as the paser's like nothing, So they just
can't have games like that.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
How would you assess Tony Tony East my guest the
mindset So far, he has been a pros pro, But
you do feel bad for Pascal Siakam just because he's
been the one stable player right into you know that
has not missed time, and yet he's got different guys
around him.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
Seemingly all the time.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
Have you seen any indication at all that Siakam is
approaching being over it?
Speaker 3 (06:49):
I mean over it as in, yeah, that's that's an
extreme that's an extreme case.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
I don't mean that would be the case, but where
he is getting fatigued by it.
Speaker 5 (06:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
I think you said that like early when they were
you know whatever, it was too and eight or whatever,
and they lost that tight game to the Bucks at
the Buzzer, and you know, he was answering a lot
of questions about like just how frustrating it is that
at that time they were at least playing okay, but
they just couldn't win.
Speaker 4 (07:13):
And you know, he talked about how much they wanted
to turn it.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
Around, and you know, how frustrating was that they were
having good stretches and then they played awful on that
road trip and for a few games at home. And
that's when I think you saw the frustration really said
in for him, because I mean, the Pacers record is
so bad that they probably don't deserve an All Star
and the actors like that. But if you just stack
up Siakam stats to everybody in the NBA, like he
definitely deserves it, Like he's I think like three or
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four guys are matching his per game points, rebounds, assists numbers,
and you know, he's been awesome for them, and like
when he's on the floor with the second unit, that
group looks good, like they're not rating when he's on
the floor is pretty pretty acceptable even for a bad team.
But then they lose and it's very little to do
with the He was not good against the Wizards, to
be clear, So I was wonderful guy, like he has
(07:59):
always had.
Speaker 4 (07:59):
Win at his center, like since here, since winning.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
A title, Like he talked about part of why he
you know, maybe was interested in coming here from Toronto
being that you know, Toronto wasn't winning as much anymore
and he missed that feeling.
Speaker 4 (08:11):
And he's a very simple guy. And then you know,
a bunch.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Of his teammates got paid a couple summers ago, and
he would he answered one question one time and talked
about how you know, if you win a lot.
Speaker 4 (08:20):
You'll get paid.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
And you know, it's like it's always just been who
he is and what's a big part of him in
the NBA and the Pincers are not doing that right
now and you can see it on his face during games,
and you can hear it.
Speaker 4 (08:30):
By what he says postgame.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
But I think he also knows that Tyre Salburn will
be back next year, so he's kind of the face
of what I'm talking about of it's it sucks like
these guys thought they'd be better. They know they're good players,
but they're not winning at all. But they know that,
you know, brighter days are coming, and so they kind
of just have to take it, which makes it way
more difficult in the moment.
Speaker 4 (08:49):
Maybe there'll be a point where they realize that it
won't be so bad.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
It's only one season, but you know, one seasons a
long time in the NBA, and at six and twenty
is not a fun stretch for anybody.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
Tony East again locked on Pacers Forbes. Hear him on
this radio show as well on the Java House, Peel
and Poor Guest Line Pacers next tonight at Gambridge Field House.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
Tony appreciate it as always.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
I hope they make a video of you doing that
for like an advert or make me very well listen.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
I've never really even thought about the fact I do it.
It just it just naturally. I'm like a walking harmonica.
It's one of them.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
Go ahead.
Speaker 4 (09:23):
My wife makes realy noises like that. I always say,
what was back? Can you repeat that? And she says
one time deal. So I'm glad you actually went through
with it and repeated the whole exchange.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
For me, a man of limited talents has to weigh
in and lean in on any talent that may be
found Tony.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
So yes, we do.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
All right, We'll be looking for the coverage to the
next game tonight. I appreciate it.
Speaker 4 (09:41):
You got it.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
Joining me now in the Java House, Peel and poor
guest line Adam Alexander. Of course, I think everybody knows.
Longtime brotherlike friend of mine and NASCAR announcer NASCAR on
the CW Prime Video as well, also has worked in
a number of different capacity for organizations covering NASCAR and
in that capacity working with alongside interviewing, et cetera, Greg Biffle. Now,
(10:08):
I want to be very clear, there are reports, of course,
what we know at this point is this a plane
that is owned by Greg Biffle's Aviation Corporation crashed in
North Carolina this morning, and officials have said there were
fatalities on board. While it is not officially confirmed that
(10:29):
that was Greg Biffle and his family. There are those
that are saying that that is the case, but Adam,
working with NASCAR, wanted to get you on. Adam, I
appreciate it under what is obviously a still developing story
and one that we don't know confirmation on. But is
there anything that I did not mention there that in
(10:52):
North Carolina you are hearing that I did not cover.
Speaker 5 (10:55):
No, I think you said it correctly.
Speaker 6 (10:57):
There are those that are sending, you know, condolences to
Greg's family, and while that would certainly be what you
want to do in these circumstances, there have been.
Speaker 5 (11:07):
No official reports.
Speaker 6 (11:09):
There was a press conference I would say in the
last ninety minutes, a couple of hours something like that
that walked through the details of you know, the planes
took off from Statesville, it returned, you know, obviously there
was some sort of an issue and then and then
the plane crash occurred when they were returning to the airport,
and you said there were fatalities, but those names have
(11:31):
not been officially released.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
Did they mention in it, Adam?
Speaker 1 (11:35):
And if you didn't hear, you know, that's but to
your recollection or understanding, did they mention the possibility that
there would have been any survivors of said crash.
Speaker 6 (11:44):
They did not mention that the number. The last number
that I heard and read in the reports were that
there were five fatalities, and so, you know, and I
don't know how much you know, they covered that side
of it in the you know, the press conference, but
(12:05):
of course, you know, anytime you know, plane takes off,
there's a list of passengers in the manifold, and I
don't know how that differentiates on those local on those
private aircrafts in comparison to commercial aircraft, but I know
that they have checks and balances that they go through
as well, and so I'm sure there's a record of
(12:27):
you know, how many people were on board and all
of that, but I don't know how much of that
has been released, and I'm not aware of all those
exact details.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
Have you worked, Adam, with Greg Biffel directly, I.
Speaker 6 (12:40):
Have, you know, I work at the first rates I
ever did with MRN Radio in the fall of two thousand.
That night Greg clinched his first Truck Series championship and
that was kind of the beginning of him becoming one
of NASCAR's great stars. And you know, the last time
that I've visited with Greg was about a year ago
(13:02):
at NASCAR's awards ceremony wrapping up the twenty twenty four season,
and Greg was recognized with the Myers Brothers Award, which
is given to someone who is a great contributor to
their community from the NASCAR world, and it was given
to Greg because Greg, you know, who has always been
(13:24):
noted for his you know, aviation side of things.
Speaker 5 (13:28):
You know, utilized his.
Speaker 6 (13:29):
Helicopter pilot's license to deliver food and goods and help
those that were negatively impacted by Hurricane Halleen. And he
didn't just jump in and help, he really led the movement.
And so it was that night that you know, Greg
was recognized for you know, his heroic acts and his
selfless acts through a very difficult time in the North
(13:50):
Carolina Tennessee region. And that's probably the last time that
Greg and I spent time together. But obviously I was
around and followed his career when he was on track
winning a truck title in Eccinity Championship and then you
know the years that he was competing at NASCAR's top
level and winning races.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
Yeah, and obviously you know, one of those guys that
Adam Greg Biffle as a driver was one that and
he did not win a Cup championship, right, But that's
not to say that there weren't years that he was
in contention and at heading down the home stretch of
the seasons, right.
Speaker 6 (14:23):
Right, Yeah, I think he had nineteen Cup victories, never
won a championship at the top level, but knocked on
the door, was in the hunt, certainly in the prime
of his career. Was considered one of the best drivers
in NASCAR, was named, you know, one of the top
seventy five drivers, has been a finalist for the Hall
of Fame, and so yeah, very well respected in someone
that is noted as one of the best to ever
(14:45):
do it.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
Adam, to your knowledge, did Greg Biffle? This is inconsequential?
I realized I'm not. But I'm just strictly out of curiosity.
I know that he had a vast aviation background and interest,
as you mentioned, and was well noted for his heroic
efforts helping out folks using his helicopters after that hurricane.
Was he himself an airline pilot or an aircraft pilot?
Speaker 6 (15:08):
I don't know that. I you know, I'm not positive
on that side. I was reminded last year when he
got so involved and taking his helicopter around and helping
everyone after Hurricane Haleen. I was reminded, you know, about
his fondness for aviation and you know how much time
you know.
Speaker 5 (15:28):
He spent on that side.
Speaker 6 (15:29):
But I don't know, you know where he sit into
that as far as all the license and he had
when when it comes to the various aircrafts.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
So Greg Biffle again, it's safe to say, Adam, and
I'm gonna say it in in current state because we
don't have any confirmation here, but Greg Biffle talented race
car driver, personable guy from what I could know of him,
pretty humble dude, right and just overall, you know, a
(15:59):
people first, humanitarian guy.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
Safe to say no doubt.
Speaker 6 (16:03):
I mean, you know, he was a true competitor and
you can you know, you can go to YouTube and
you can find clips to find out what a true
competitor he was. But always handled his success with tremendous
humility and grace and as he you know, had retired
even though he was no longer someone that you saw
(16:24):
at the track week to week and the younger fans
probably didn't realize what he had meant to the sport
at one time. He continued to use the platform that
he had created as a very successful race car driver
to give and to help out others. So there's no
no question he's a tremendous guy and you know, one
(16:45):
that was always ready to give it back and help
it any way possible.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
Well, Adam, I appreciate you coming on in, you know,
literally like spontaneous moment when I reached out to you
about this. We'll hope for the best on the story
itself and wait for confirmation as to what happened. The
reality is whether or not it was Greg Biffel. You know,
there was a loss of life and you never want
to see that in any situation or story, and certainly
(17:11):
thoughts with those that were impacted by it. Adam short notice,
I realize appreciate it. Happy Holidays by all means, and
Merry Christmas to your dad, the rest of your family
and everybody down there. Thanks, thank you, Jake, Adam Alexander
joining me on the Java House Peel and poor guest line. Okay,
so let's find out what's going on out at West
fifty sixth. Matt Taylor is the voice of the Indianapolis Colts.
(17:35):
Joins us now on the Java House Peel and Poor
Guest line courtesy of Shelby Materials. Matt, let's get right
to this, Bernard Ryman, Sauce Gardner.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
Those guys are.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
Not on the practice field today, but everything's kind of
staggered today because it's a Monday night game. Is there
still possibility that those guys could get out before we
get to the game with San Francisco.
Speaker 6 (17:56):
Yeah, So think of it like today is Thursday, but
in in NFL terms, when you're playing on Monday, it's
kind of like a Wednesday. It's like the first day
of practice and guys getting on the field again following
the last week's game against Seattle. So it's not all
that uncommon for a guy, you know, to sit on
(18:16):
Wednesday and then come back to practice on a normal
Thursday or Friday, in this case, Friday Saturday leading into
Monday night football. So you know, I don't think the
bells and whistles and alarms are going off just yet,
but we'll see. We'll have more of a better indication
tomorrow and those guys' status because tomorrow, even though it's Friday,
it's like a Thursday practice.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
And we at this point it appears clear Shane Sdeikeen,
And you tell me if I'm paraphrasing or Shane Steykeens
said it out right. Philip Rivers is starting Monday night,
right he is?
Speaker 6 (18:49):
Yep, And I get the indication that Philip is probably
going to be their guy the rest of the season.
Speaker 3 (18:56):
Matt.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
The question I have there is this, Seeattle, I thought personally,
and listen, you know you're up there with a bird's
eye view of it all, So feel free to either
fill in holes here or flat out tell me no,
that's not really how it worked. But it seemed to
me in that game against Seattle. Did Seattle spent say,
(19:17):
the first quarter to quarter and a half kind of
feeling out exactly what the Colts offense was going to
be under Philip Rivers and then they adjusted what they
needed to do to constantly spy on Jonathan Taylor and
then just kind of keep Philip Rivers in check because
they knew that he was limited in terms of the
long field velocity. And my concern would be that San
(19:39):
Francisco now has that blueprint and pushes all in on
that Is that fair?
Speaker 6 (19:45):
Yeah, I mean what you saw throughout the course of
that game was, I mean, Seattle's got a really good
defensive line anyway, so they were still getting pressure and
still kind of impacting the game what they're front four.
Speaker 5 (19:55):
But what you saw them do.
Speaker 6 (19:57):
Throughout the course of that game or kind of adjust to,
was they're not going to.
Speaker 5 (20:01):
Blitz Philip Rivers.
Speaker 6 (20:03):
They're gonna get after him with his front with their
front four, but they're gonna play really tight on the
outside and make those throwing windows, you know, in the angles,
pretty pretty sharp and hard to fit the football into.
So that's kind of what happened, is you know, they
would they were kind of foolish and and blitzing him
early in the game, and then he would throw it
(20:23):
to where the blitz was coming from. And that's how
the Colts were getting some first downs and staying on schedule.
And you know, that's the thing about you know that
that game plan this week is you know, I know
it wasn't aesthetically awesome to watch, but it almost worked
considering how well the defense played. And you go back
(20:44):
and you kind of look at the box score or
like the game notes, like the game book if you will.
I mean, the Colts said they had nine persons in
that game prior to the last possession where they turn
it over, and they only had the one play on
the interception, but take that one out. They had nine
drives for the game and they reached plus territory in
(21:05):
six of them. And so that's how I think, you
know the forty nine ers are going to play going
forward is you know, they're not going to probably send
a lot of pressure on Philip Rivers, but they're gonna
play pretty tight on the outside and make it tough.
You know, based on his skill set and his age
at forty four and not being really mobile, they're going
to be you know, they're going to, I think, be
(21:26):
pretty concentrated on shutting down the free releases on the
outside from guys like Pierce and Pittman and take away
the deep ball and again make those throwing angles pretty
sharp for him to fit the ball into at the
line of scrimmage.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
I was intrigued by and a little bit impressed by
Matt the use of a mir Abdullah out of the
backfield and just kind of the incorporation of that wrinkle.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
Yeah, is that because here's.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
A guy that finally they found maybe some looks that
they liked, or was it more so Philip Rivers has
always had that kind of an out of the back
field kind of guy, and it fit with what they
wanted to do and was a comfort zone for Rivers,
and therefore Abdullah was able to answer that bell.
Speaker 6 (22:08):
Yeah, I mean Darren Sproles Niam Hines when he was
here with Philip Rivers in twenty twenty. I mean, he
loves throwing the backs out of the backfield and he
knows exactly where those guys are going to be. And
if you play with Philip Rivers as a running back,
you got to be where you're supposed to be because
he knows where you're supposed to be, probably better than
you do. And so you know, that's that's always a
(22:29):
safety valve for him, especially with you know how the
Seahawks were playing that game. Get the ball out quick,
get it out on time, and let guys with better
athleticism than Philip Rivers go out there and make plays
and get yards after the catch. I mean that jerk
router to that, that's sort of like you know, hard
angle route that they ran with some mere Abdula was
(22:49):
really productive. They probably ran it three or four times
and they hit it for some big yards, and so
that's what I think you're going to see a lot
of you know, check down to the tailor check downs
over the middle to Abdullah. I love what they did
on that quick screen on the first completion of the game.
Speaker 5 (23:06):
Uh, that wide receiver screen Pittman.
Speaker 6 (23:08):
I mean, these are all kind of like extensions of
the running game where you know.
Speaker 5 (23:12):
If you hit them, that's that's good.
Speaker 6 (23:14):
And you know if they go for if they break
for you know, big yards after the catch, your yards
after contact, that's that's great. You take those. But those
are those are you know, implemented to keep you on
the field and set you up on you know, third
and three, third and four.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (23:30):
I mean, obviously it goes without saying third and long
for Philip rivers is not a recipe for success, especially
when you're you know, kind of stacked up in your
own territory, which they were a couple of times at
the beginning of that game. But you know, inevitably they're
gonna have to be a little bit more you know,
for whatever, for lack of a better term, they're gonna
have to be more open they're gonna have to be, uh,
they're gonna have to open the playbook and and uh
(23:53):
be a little bit more aggressive in their game plan.
I mean, I think, you know, it sounds cliche, but
there's always away to win every game. And the way
they approach that game in Seattle on the road against
that defense with the crowd, I thought was the appropriate
way to try to win that game. And again, the
defense allowed you to stay in that game. But inevitably,
you know, you're just shoot two hundred and fifteen yards
(24:16):
of offense and just a hair over sixty of that
comes in second half and only four first downs past halftime.
That's just not a winning formula. Everybody knows that. So
we're going to see if Phil Philip Rivers can implement
more of the you know, the intermediate part of the
passing game and get guys like Peterson Pittman a little
bit more involved.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
By the way, Eddie, So we haven't gotten totally into
helium tank category, but it sounds like Matt's taking a
couple of hits off the balloon of it, right, isn't
that right? Okay, Matt, we working through some of the
kings here with the move occasionally it will kind of
speed up somebody's voice.
Speaker 3 (24:49):
So at the end and you're you're a team player
in this.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
We've gotten Now, let's see, we've got Joela Ericson, We've
got Don Fisher. Now not Don Fisher, Stephanie White, Joela
Ericson free if we've had a couple of really good
follow the yellompic roads and we're gonna get one from
you on the way out, and then kind of judge
you versus others to see how good a member you
are of the Lollipop Guild.
Speaker 6 (25:11):
Okay, I said, like Alvin and the Chipmunks paper, what's
going up?
Speaker 3 (25:15):
Yeah, a little bit like Theodore a little bit.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
Can you tell me that you want a hula hoop?
Can I just get you say he'd like a hula
hoop for Christmas?
Speaker 3 (25:25):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (25:25):
Chris Mas, Chris math No, come on now, I can
jive with you. All right.
Speaker 3 (25:34):
The laugh is strong as well.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
But while we have you, before we go full helium here,
what do we know about San Francisco And just maybe
what Shane Stikeen has said in terms of the challenge
they create or the areas that the Colts can exploit.
Speaker 6 (25:47):
Yeah, I mean defensively, you know, I think there's some
remnants of the Gus Bradley approach and his methodology on defense.
I mean, you kind of look at them on the
big picture on that side of the ball. I mean,
first of all, they've just been ransacked with injury with
with Nick Bosa out and then you've got the injury
to Fred Warner. They're all Pro linebacker. Those guys are
(26:11):
out for this season, and it's not really I mean,
unless you live in the Bay Area and you're a
die hard forty nine Ers fan, there's not a lot
of household names left on that side of the football.
But collectively, you know, they're kind of middle of the
pack defensively, you know, right in line with the Gus
Bradley era here with the Colts. They give up a
high completion percentage, right around sixty eight percent. So you know,
(26:36):
they don't do a lot of things great. They don't
do They're not deficient in a ton of areas. But
the one area that they really just don't get a
whole lot of production from is their pass rush. They
only have sixteen sacks as a team through the first
fourteen games of the season. I think they only have
three guys on the roster right now that have more
than three sacks on the year. And then again, I
(26:59):
think it probably goes without saying. On offense, the the
trio of Brock Purty and Christian McCaffrey and George Kittle.
I mean, those guys kind of drive the ship on
that side of the ball. You know, wide receivers are involved,
but not greatly. It's it's more so the Kittle and
McCaffrey show. And then it's just kind of a little
(27:20):
bit of a sidebar. It's gonna be fun with with
Jonathan Taylor and Christian McCaffrey on the same game field
for the first time in their careers, right it's gonna
be the first time to actually play quote unquote against
each other, even though you know both guys are on
an offense. You get what I'm saying. But these guys
are both top three in scrimmage yards this year.
Speaker 5 (27:41):
They're each of them.
Speaker 6 (27:42):
Are over two and fifty carries on the season, so
heavy workload for their respective running backs in this game.
And then with McCaffrey, as we know too, he's one
of the best pass catching backs out of the backfield
since he broke in the league in twenty seventeen, so
you got to know where McCaffrey is twenty three, and
then keep an eye out for George Kittle, because those
(28:03):
two guys are basically the stars of their show. On offense.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
Okay, Matt on the way out, and I'll give you
your your pick here. You can give me a line
from Alvin. You can give me a we represent the
Lollipop Guild, or you can give me a follow of
the Yellow Brick Road.
Speaker 3 (28:18):
Which one would you like?
Speaker 6 (28:19):
Well, you said the other guys went went with the
with the Wizard of Oz. So give me Alvin. Give
me give me an alvinism.
Speaker 3 (28:27):
What I guess you would just say that you want
a hula hoop for Christmas? Right?
Speaker 6 (28:31):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (28:32):
I mean, how about this? You simply say, uh, I
just want to wholah hoop.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
But you got there, you go and just in your
normal voice, you don't need to alvanize it. The ur
elixer does it for you.
Speaker 6 (28:47):
I'm just gonna piss off Dave Seville real quick and
get everybody riled up here. So me I want ah.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
All right, enjoy of course, you know we got a
Monday show to do as well. And then Monday Night football.
It will be the Indiana Night's version of the Colts
uniforms and the San Francisco forty nine ers appreciate it.
Speaker 6 (29:12):
Matt, all Right, that was not on my bucket list
today or my beingo guitars.
Speaker 4 (29:16):
I don't even.
Speaker 6 (29:19):
A day in the life in this show man, Holy smoke.
Speaker 3 (29:26):
Thanks Eddie, Eddie, I think on the floor now
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