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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You know, there's an age, old adage when it comes
to doing broadcasting that you know, it's kind of like
doing a play. If you miss a line or you
you know, a prop isn't there, the audience doesn't know it,
and the audience typically is like, yeah, I don't that
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doesn't even concern me, but I do feel like and
so my point being, you know, when there are little
nuances that we notice here, Kurt, you and I at
the fault of literally no one, because we are operating
in a brand new facility with brand new studios, and
the engineering team here has been unbelievable in moving us
from you know, from our old building to this new
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location in building us literally state of the art set.
I mean, it's it's a gorgeous studio that we're in.
There are a ton of things to be grateful for
and thankful for, and everybody's hard working diligence in doing this,
especially during the holidays when some people are on, some
people are off. But with that said, it does complicate
at times things that the listener may notice, you know,
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connectivity issues or the inability to play certain things on
the show that we're used to playing, or letting people
hear from things, and it would normally be naive of
me to point that out, maybe even counterproductive, except for that,
you know, we're obviously all aware of it. It's a
little beyond anyone's control. But I'm sitting here in our
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new studios, I'm overlooking and I can see outside, and
it's five or ten degrees outside, and.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
I can see.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
Guys and gals that work a lot harder than I do,
that are doing jobs far more important than mine right
now out there in terms of clearing the street and
working on infrastructure of the city and really important impactful jobs,
and doing it in not great weather conditions and difficulty
and challenge. And the reality is that we get to
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have a super fun job talking about sports, doing what
we can to have fun each and every day and
hopefully add a little bit of fun to people. And
so therefore, who in the world would I be to
complain about any of it or to point out about
any of it, other than to say, I appreciate anybody's
patience if they do notice a little thing here and
there where we're aware of it and moving forward, and
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it's all short term. I mean, it's all going to
be probably within a week or so that it's all
worked out. But nonetheless, I appreciate people that actually have legitimate,
important jobs where they work very very hard in far
more adverse conditions. I appreciate those folks. And it does
put in perspective the fact that essentially what we're doing
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is having fun on a playground. I mean, that's basically
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Bob Kravitz joins us now from Bob Kravitz dot com.
Of course, the lead authority on many subjects when it
comes to talking about them and covering them for many
years here in Central Indiana. And Bob I will give
you your choice. We can talk colts from yesterday. We can
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talk your alma mater and Indiana football. Which one would
you like to lead with.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
Let's start with the beloved alma mater.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Okay, did you ever think, Bob in a gabillion years
and a gabillion years, that the Heisman Trophy would be
in Indiana? And your overall thoughts on Mendoza's speech and
just the vibe of Indiana football.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
Yeah, I thought his speech was great. You know, I
saw where Skip Bayliss, who has no soul, said it
was to rehearse and memorize. I'm like, dummy, it's on
a it's on a teleprompter.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
You know.
Speaker 4 (04:02):
Of course he's reading it.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
I mean he's of course he's memorized it to a
certain degree.
Speaker 4 (04:08):
In fact, the day after, not.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
The day after the night of the Big Ten game,
he couldn't sleep, so he put on a bunch of
Heisman Trophy speeches that he had collected just to study up,
which gives you some idea what this kid.
Speaker 4 (04:27):
Is all about.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Obviously, it also gives you an idea that he knew
this was a reality.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
He had to know that the Big Ten title game.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
You know, Bob I was intrigued by this for all
of the discussion and narrative that the Big Ten title
game was going to be for the Heisman, and Gus
Johnson only said at six hundred and forty six times
on the broadcast, Julian Sane finishing fourth surprised me?
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Did that surprise you?
Speaker 1 (04:52):
Not?
Speaker 5 (04:52):
Really?
Speaker 1 (04:52):
Not?
Speaker 3 (04:53):
After that game, I think he would drive. I figured
he dropped down one or two spots. I think there
was a lot of momentum for Diego Pavia coming into it,
so I was not surprised at all that it went.
Speaker 4 (05:08):
The way it went.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
You know, the good will that Diego Pavia had going
into the Heisman, he did a nice job of flushing
that away by Sunday afternoon.
Speaker 4 (05:14):
Didn't know, my lord.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
You know, I'm glad he had an apology, but I
can promise you that a lot of people a lot
smarter than him forced the issue. That's gonna really I
don't know when he's gonna go pro, but that's going
to follow him around for a very long time. I mean,
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if he's trying to be Johnny Manziel, go right ahead.
Speaker 4 (05:42):
But things didn't work out well for manziel.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
I saw somebody that said he's Team MoU version of
Johnny manziel I thought it was perfect, good player, no question,
but yeah, bad spin on it. Okay, Bob what I
was just talking about? And I want the opinion of
Bob Kravitz. As I was watching Mendoza's speech, It was
not long after that that I then, you know, hit
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the other option in my sports viewing on Saturday evening,
and that was Indiana Kentucky and rupp There was a
time in this state, with this fan base and this
university that everything was secondary to that game. And yet
as Indiana saw that game get away from them, it
was consoled by the fact that there was this glow
of a Heisman Trophy winner. And I know the easy
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question would be is Indiana now football school? But in
terms of resources, has Indiana shifted its financial resource away
from basketball to the point where they are now dialed
in with the rest of the country of this is
a football first financial investment in basketball than his secondary.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
You know, I don't think they moved the money around.
I think with more money coming in from you know,
from all kinds of different sources, that they're putting more
money now into football. I mean, Brian Haynes has gotten
what four raises in the last year. I mean every
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time somebody expresses some interest.
Speaker 4 (07:15):
But that's great.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
It's great for Brian Haynes, it's great for Indiana University.
You know, I'm old enough to remember that the day
is when a top assistant was gone, you know, as
soon as they got got a decent offer, and.
Speaker 4 (07:32):
I you would not try to match.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
So I don't know that they're necessarily moving more money
from basketball to football. I should know the answer, But
I think because they got more money coming in, more
money is than going to both sports, but football in particular,
because football pays the bills.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Okay, Bob, let me ask you this is it? Just me?
It seems to me. I just got done talking about this.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
It seems to me that right now, in twenty twenty five,
college football is on this meteoric rise in terms of
its popularity, its relevance, its discussion, its finances, it's television,
all of it. And college basketball is on this either
plateau or decline of it in terms of all of
those things that I just mentioned. Is that reality or
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is that because I went to Indiana which is now
having football success and struggling in basketball.
Speaker 4 (08:32):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (08:32):
I don't know about excuse me about basketball diminishing in
the public guy.
Speaker 4 (08:38):
But certainly, you.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
Know, it's funny when nil and the transfer portal came in,
everybody was saying it's going to be the death knell.
Speaker 4 (08:46):
Of college football. The haves are the haves.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
Are going to dominate, the have nots are going to struggle,
and exactly the opposite has happened. You've got Vanderbilt, You've
got IU, You've got Texas Tech. Now the ground is flatter,
you know, like they say the world is flat the
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old Thomas Friedman book.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
And that's kind of.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
The way it is with college with college football these days,
I think as much as we all hate the idea
of the portal and guys getting paid, it's been great
for college football. I mean, look at how competitive things
are right now, Bob.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
Should Philip Rivers start Monday Night against San Francisco Anthony Richardson?
Speaker 2 (09:37):
By the way, for those that are just joining.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
The program, multiple reports now Anthony Richardson medically cleared to
return to the Colts. That does not mean that he
is ready to play on Monday night, but medically cleared
to go back on the field and practice. Should Philip
Rivers be the starter Monday night?
Speaker 4 (09:54):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (09:54):
I think you should look for a guy to come
back after five year years off and have three practices?
What did anybody expect? I thought he exceeded what I
thought he could do. I thought it was going to
be something of a clown show and it was not.
You know, he did trip over the logo at midfield
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one time, which is pretty funny, but uh, you know,
I thought he handled himself really well. The only the
only way I start ar is if with a game
or two left there they're they're mathematically out of it
and he's ready to go, because they got to find
out at some point with this guy has to offer?
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Can he get can he come back as a backup?
Do they want him to be a backup next year?
To Daniel Jones, I think all those things are still
to be determined by Chris Ballard or whoever's running the show.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
Well, okay, and I want to get to that, Bob,
But real quick, my thought is this, though I agree
with you on Rivers. I mean I thought, yesterday, look,
the Colts were within a whisky, you know, a whisker
winning that game. I mean, kudos to them, And I
thought Rivers was a very good game manager, right, And
I have no knock on Philip Rivers or the way
he played except for this, and that is that because
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of the fact that as the game went on, Seattle
figured out, look, we don't need to drop back here
because you know he is not with the exception of
the one past appears he's a dank and dunk quarterback
at this point, right and and their their game plan
was fairly vanilla. If that's the case, why not go
with the guy that you know is at least going
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to be on your roster. And I'm not talking about
Richardson and Leonard. If you're going to go with a
super vanilla game plan, why not go ahead and go
with the guy that at least you can find out
what is there for you moving forward? In terms of
a depth piece in Riley Leonard.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
I still think that your best chance, if you're still
in it, I believe your best chance of winning is
with Philip, which you know you're talking about ar He
hasn't practice, he hasn't done much of anything for months
and months and months. To expect him to come off
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this terrible injury and be and have a modicum of success,
I think is I think that's a long shot. Now
if they're mathematically out of it.
Speaker 4 (12:26):
Put ar in there.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
What can it hurt? You know, he needs the reps.
But as long as they're still in this thing, and
they are just barely, I go with Philip River.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
Mathematically, Bob, they're in it, Okay, yes, legitimately speaking, are
they in it?
Speaker 3 (12:45):
No, they're not there. They'll be very fortunate to win
one of these last three games, and that's not gonna
be enough to knock off Houston or certainly Jacksonville.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
Do you believe that Anthony Richardson will play again this year?
Speaker 4 (13:06):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (13:07):
I do.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
I think he might get a shot in the last
game of the season, or possibly the last two games.
Speaker 4 (13:15):
You know, uh, yeah, sure, you know. I mean, if
he's healthy and ready to go, get.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
Him in there, if it doesn't matter h then yeah, sure,
then I would play him.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
Do you believe that Chris Ballard is the guy that's
making decisions for next year? Oh?
Speaker 4 (13:33):
Yeah, no doubt.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
And you know, to follow up, you know, to answer
your expected follow up question, I believe Ballard would be
back next year. I believe Stike and will be back.
I think they're going to be giving a mulligan for
this season. I think they she carly erse Gordon went
into this thinking it's playoffs or bust. But given the
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circumstances answers, given the seven and one eight and to
start with Daniel Jones, I think they're going to give
the front office a mulligan and see if they can't
get it right next year.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
And then the other thing, Bob, that I was talking about,
I want your your thoughts on this, Bob Kravitz, my
guest Jaba House Peel and poor guest line. The Jones injury,
bad as it may be, If there's a silver lining there,
it's the fact that now theoretically his price tag, yeah,
you could franchise tag him, but his price tag to
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bring him back is not going to be what it
was anticipated it was going to be if he's healthy
and they were on the trajectory they were headed. Now
question is do we know for certain that when it
comes to the rehab and re entering back into a
place that this is where Daniel Jones wants to be.
Speaker 4 (14:50):
You know.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
I got to think though, just because of his relationship
with Shane Steike and the.
Speaker 4 (14:55):
Success that he had throughout the first.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
Nine ten games of the season, I think I think
you would be foolish to go elsewhere. I think he's
comfortable here. He's he's a low key guy. That's a
low key town. He's not built for New York. That's
not a good thing or a bad thing. It's just
not his personality. So I think, I think you will
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be back. I think the price tag won't be quite.
Speaker 4 (15:27):
What it was, as you mentioned. But he'd be.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
Crazy to go elsewhere because he's he resurrected.
Speaker 4 (15:35):
His career here. Why would he want to go anywhere else.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
The only place that I've heard with the possibility of that,
and after yesterday, who knows, right what the but I
the only other place I heard was was Minnesota. The
fact that because he has familiarity with Minnesota that if
they wanted to do a one eighty and say, you
know what, we will bring you back after all, that
that would be a possibility or something that could intrigue him.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
That's the only thing that I've heard.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
Yeah, well, you know, and if he goes to Minnesota,
he's not he's going to have to fight for a
job with McCarthy. If if he stays in Indianapolis, it's
his job.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
Well that's what I mean. Only Minnesota. Only if they said, hey,
you know what, like I said, if they did a
one eighty on it and said, you know what, this
is not the guy so and I'm okay, Okay.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
Yeah, I guess I guess that is a possibility. But
to me, you don't don't mess with Happy, And I've
done that in my career and it hit me in
the ass. So you know, you don't mess with Happy.
And I think he's got a good situation here with
a coach who's who gets him, and I think he'd
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be crazy to look elsewhere.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
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Speaker 2 (17:00):
I've been too long.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
You need to have you back on, man, But I
appreciate it.
Speaker 4 (17:03):
Sounds good, buddy, take care OF's out.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
Bob Kravitz joining us, Java, House peel and poor guest line.
All right, we mentioned the Anthony richardson News. What does
it mean. We'll get into that. Mike Chappel, who was
on top of this story. Going to join us here
coming up within ten minutes. Mike Chapel is the dean
of Coase Writers w XI in Fox fifty nine and
CBS four joins us now, Java House Peel and poor
guest line. Mike will get right to the big story
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in terms of today versus yesterday to start, and that
is that Anthony Richardson medically cleared for the Colts. Now,
if you could please elaborate for me on what that
means in terms of Anthony Richardson's availability short you know,
and say Monday night against San Francisco.
Speaker 5 (17:44):
Zero a little more than zero. But he hasn't practice
since he fractured is that overall bone? Gosh, October twelfth.
So all this means and I realized people get all
hyped up because he's been cleared for the next step,
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but they have a you know, the first the next
step has to be them opening the twenty one day
practice window and then see how practices a week, two
weeks and then and then see, well there's only three
weeks to go. Monday night would be would be beyond
uh any expectation. I just I just don't see it.
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I mean the fourth Butner played you know, most of
the season. Then he had the neck injury and they
opened up his practice window. Last week he practiced three
times limited and they didn't activate him. I would be
I would be so beyond shocked. I think there's a
better chance of you playing well, you know, Anthony Richardson.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
And I'm saying this to play Devil's advocate Chap. But
at the same time, if Anthony Richardson is not able
to play because he hasn't practiced in SoC Sober twelfth,
that means that they actually will go with the guy
that hadn't played in five years, right, I mean that?
Speaker 5 (19:06):
Well, yeah, but that see that that would But let's
take let's take Rivers out of the mix. If not
for Rivers, then then it wouldn't change the rehab process,
the return process of Anthony Richardson. If you're sitting here
today with Riley Leonard and and Brett Rippon, there'd be
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a third guy here, obviously, that wouldn't That wouldn't mean, well, well,
we gotta get ar up to speed by Monday. No,
because his his is a separate His is a separate
UH storyline as opposed to what they need at quarterback.
Right now. So that's that's how people unders have to understand.
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Is one he hasn't He hasn't practiced, you know, Alan
Iris in practice since since the middle of October, and
you're talking about a fractured face. A part of his
face has been fractured. And he's been able to do lifting,
he's been able to do some light running. But to
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think that he's close to getting hammered by a defensive
player or to I think that just strains reality myself.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
So Mike, the reality is Mike chap On, my guest.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
I thought yesterday Philip Rivers, and you you tell me
where you disagree here. Okay, I thought Rivers, all things considered,
it was remarkable what he was able to go out
and do, just at the age of forty four or
five years off, et cetera. But as the game went on,
I think it was very clear that Seattle figured out, Look,
we don't have to drop back and protect against the
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long ball here. We just need to basically put enough
in the box to spy on Jonathan Taylor and not
allow Rivers to make a an eleven yard completion and
just keep it as dank and dunk. Thought process is
while I have the utmost respect for Philip Rivers and
the Colts yesterday attempt at what they did, and you know,
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to be within that game, I get it, or you know,
close in that game, I get it. But if you
are going to have to vanilla down your offense and
keep it relatively limited in terms of your play call,
why not go with the guy that is the younger
player that has a chance to be on your roster
next year and see what you have in him for
a depth piece moving forward. Tell me why I'm wrong.
Speaker 5 (21:31):
Well, I'm not seeing you're wrong. I just don't think
they see it your way. I believe that they believe
that Rivers with all of his limitations, and there are limitations,
we saw him all yesterday. Forget that he can't forget
his forty four because he's forty four. But with all
the limitations physically, the arm strength is not what it
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was in twenty twenty, it's not still give him a
better chance to win if everything else works. You know,
I don't know that I can depend on Blake Groopy
hitting sixty yard field goals all the time, and I
really don't know that I can expect this defense to
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keep the opposition Frisco, Jacksonville and Houston to no touchdowns.
That was a superb effort by the defense until until
they needed a shop you know, want to you know,
stop at the end forty two seconds to play and
Darnold had to make a couple of completions having set up.
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I still believe that internally they think Rivers and all
that he does. Remember when at the start of the season,
when Shane Styken talked about why he chose Jones over Richardson,
it was it was the command of the game, command
of the line of scrimmage, the operation of the offense.
And I still believe that their thought says is that
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he does all that stuff getting into a good play,
getting out of a bad play, and recognizing defenses. That
helps compensate for what he can't do with his arm
that he used to do every week. If that's an
indictment of right, it entered and so be it. I
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just that'll be one of the first couple of questions
has changed. I can in about a half an hour,
is is Rivers going to start on Monday night? And
I've got to believe He's gonna say yes that they
both he and and Rivers talked after the game about
how you know, I only had three days practice and
you know, I thought things done pretty well. And the
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more I play, the more I can, the more the
offense can expand, although there's there's limitations on how much
it can expand. Uh. With with Rivers limitations, I just
I don't think that the fan base needs to understand
that I, barring injury, I think the plane is for
for Rivers start the last three games.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
Now.
Speaker 5 (24:05):
Maybe sike and throws the curveball today, I don't think so,
and the Richardson thing has juiced to it from the outside,
But I just I wonder if the team really expects
him to play in the second in two or three games.
I don't think so, but maybe Shane Stych can will
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expand on that in a bit as well.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
JAP, do we have any update on Bernard Ryman.
Speaker 4 (24:33):
No, Uh, they.
Speaker 5 (24:35):
Were waiting for an MRI. I they don't think it's
I R level injury. But keep in mind there's only
three games left and to have a tackle with if
you know he was out there. Brett Bensley had a
good picture our potac guy audio or a video guy
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a good picture of Ryman back out there, Yes, with
a big prace or or whatever on his arm, but
to have at least at least it's his right arm
to where he can still reach out with his left
arm at left tackle and play, I guess. But injuries
at this time of the year are not good because
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you're running out of time to rehab. So hopefully he's back.
I would be surprised this week, I just would, but
hopefully he's back to wore those.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
Things over Chap.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
I look at if you look at the fact, you
know the Colts are now down two tackles right on
both sides, and you know Braden Smith will see what
happens long term with that off the ir But the
best protection at this point for the quarterback, whether it
be Philip Rivers or whoever it may be, I thought,
was in fact Jonathan Taylor, because conventionally, you would think
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Seattle would have just said, we're just gonna blitz from
the left and right side, you know, at nauseum here
right and get after Philip Rivers, except that I think
they didn't want to run past their coverage of Taylor,
so they were better off just kind of keeping it
right behind the line. Stacking the box to spy on Taylor.
Limit the pass game to say seven yards and in,
and not get too aggressive as to not then get
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beat by a draw. If you will to tailor or
let Taylor beat them. Is that overthinking it or do
you think that's the way that played out?
Speaker 5 (26:23):
No, that's how it played out. And if I'm Salo,
if I'm Frisco or anybody, I'm not overly concerned with
with Philip Rivers. I'm just not, you know, didn't condense
yourself all you want. At some point, more times than not,
something's going to go wrong, a bad throw, somebody dropping
the ball, a sack, a holding penalty of ball. Start
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you get behind the scenes, and then you're in trouble.
I would make Jonathan Taylor beat me all the time,
and you know that. You know, people should notice they
ran the ball thirty times yesterday and threw it twenty seven.
I'm sort of surprised it was that in balance. I
thought they may run the ball more so. And it's
gonna if they're really gonna test Jonathan Taylor's stamina and patience,
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because this is a guy that was averaging like six
yards of carrier or you know, mid season and now
it's it's like three five, three six because it's just
tough sledding and the only way to back people off
is to be aggressive down the field. And do you
I don't see that happening a player I feel bad for.
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It's not like Pierce because I just don't see them.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
And he really wanted to target yesterday. I mean he
second highest number of snaps in one target right.
Speaker 5 (27:42):
There was really two because one of them was wiped
out by a penalty, I think, but no one official
target and on that great back shoulder throw. But you know,
so you can't maximize what some of your players do,
but this is where they are, and I it's it's
got the potential to be not very We've had the
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entertaining part, you know we have. Yesterday was was almost
almost movie like. It almost was again if the defense
makes one more play and you win a game that
you know would have really added something to Rivers legend
and it's already pretty good. But I just don't I
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don't see a steady dose of this type of an offense.
Was a three point seven yards a play. That's just hard,
and I just wonder how much the defense has left
in it when you're already playing with that Buckner and
Ward and Gardner. Maybe they get bucked back this week,
maybe they get Gardner back. But I just I thought
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the defense gave all it had until it didn't have
enough to give it the end. But that's just that's
just asking a lot for the rest of the team
to do so much more because the offense just can't
do enough.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
Chap.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
I thought Amir Abduli yesterday was involved, obviously more than
we have seen him in the past. Is that because
they wanted to keep balance with Jonathan Taylor or is
that because he has a capability that is within the
comfort zone of what Philip Rivers likes.
Speaker 5 (29:21):
Probably both. Again, I mentioned on social media yesterday that
JT needed twenty five carries minimum, and that's what he got.
But they can't. They're not going to run him thirty
to thirty five times. They just aren't. They just wear
him out and wear him down and all that. So
I duly gave him a pretty good, pretty good change.
If somebody mentioned that he was almost like Nahim Heinz,
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like how he can do things. He's better out of
the backfield than JT is. He just is so that's
where game planning. I thought, game plan wise, considering the
personnel limitations, I thought Stiken had a really good offensive
game plan and and Rumo had a really good defensive game. Point.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
No, it was Chap.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
It was actually and people can feel free to come
at me with this. Maybe I'm wrong, but in my opinion,
it was actually a well coached game. I thought, given
some of the handcuffs put on them, I thought it
was a well coached game.
Speaker 5 (30:16):
They were thirteen point underdogs. I mean, with my great knowledge,
I had a'm getting I picked them to get beat
thirty one thirteen in my game preview, just because I
didn't think that they could do enough in other areas,
and they did. Again, I'm not going to just bank
on you know, if we just get in positioned to
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have group, you hit a sixty yarder, I mean, let's
not go there, because that's asking too much, because you
know so again, I just wonder what they've got for
an encore after doing all most everything right, can you
lose with a fifty six yard field goal at the end.
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I just I wonder how they regroup. They will These
guys are prideful, They get paid well, and this this
is their job. I mean, they're not going to go
out there and to lay down at all, but at
some point, and they do not talk about it internally,
they don't, but at some point, your your personal limitations
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keep you from doing what it takes to win a game.
And I'm just wondering how close to could start of
that with with three extremely tough opponents coming.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
Up, Chap, I know that, if I'm not mistaken, you're
getting ready to go in Shane Stikeen's availability real quick.
The things that we're wanting to learn today, the question
marks today that you are looking for answers for that
you'll have at CBS four and w x A and
Fox fifty nine are.
Speaker 5 (31:44):
First is is River? Are you? Are you going on
with rip with Rivers? And I think they are. And
then the follow up, in some form or fashion will
be but what what what.
Speaker 4 (31:54):
What will make you think that'll be?
Speaker 5 (31:55):
It'll be better, marginally better this week and the week
after and all they're going you know, it's gonna be
repetitions and familiarity.
Speaker 3 (32:04):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (32:05):
And then and then we'll ask ar questions. And I
don't think he'll move the needle much on that. I
don't think we'll get much of an update on Bernard Ryman,
but it's gonna be about about Rivers and moving forward
with him. How did he feel today when he get
out of bed after you know, he went at there
mowing the grass at age forty four? He was getting
(32:26):
beat on pretty good, right, so that it'll be Philip
Rivers driven. Uh, of course.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
All right, chap We appreciate the time. As always. We'll
let you get to it, all right.
Speaker 5 (32:37):
Thanks guy, be well my
Speaker 2 (32:38):
Chapel joining US CBS four in w X and Fox
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You know, there's an age, old adage when it comes
to doing broadcasting that you know, it's kind of like
doing a play. If you miss a line or you
you know, a prop isn't there, the audience doesn't know it,
and the audience typically is like, yeah, I don't that
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doesn't even concern me, but I do feel like and
so my point being, you know, when there are little
nuances that we notice here, Kurt, you and I at
the fault of literally no one, because we are operating
in a brand new facility with brand new studios, and
the engineering team here has been unbelievable in moving us
from you know, from our old building to this new
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location in building us literally state of the art set.
I mean, it's it's a gorgeous studio that we're in.
There are a ton of things to be grateful for
and thankful for, and everybody's hard working diligence in doing this,
especially during the holidays when some people are on, some
people are off. But with that said, it does complicate
at times things that the listener may notice, you know,
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connectivity issues or the inability to play certain things on
the show that we're used to playing, or letting people
hear from things, and it would normally be naive of
me to point that out, maybe even counterproductive, except for that,
you know, we're obviously all aware of it. It's a
little beyond anyone's control. But I'm sitting here in our
(01:28):
new studios, I'm overlooking and I can see outside, and
it's five or ten degrees outside, and.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
I can see.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
Guys and gals that work a lot harder than I do,
that are doing jobs far more important than mine right
now out there in terms of clearing the street and
working on infrastructure of the city and really important impactful jobs,
and doing it in not great weather conditions and difficulty
and challenge. And the reality is that we get to
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have a super fun job talking about sports, doing what
we can to have fun each and every day and
hopefully add a little bit of fun to people. And
so therefore, who in the world would I be to
complain about any of it or to point out about
any of it, other than to say, I appreciate anybody's
patience if they do notice a little thing here and
there where we're aware of it and moving forward, and
(02:18):
it's all short term. I mean, it's all going to
be probably within a week or so that it's all
worked out. But nonetheless, I appreciate people that actually have legitimate,
important jobs where they work very very hard in far
more adverse conditions. I appreciate those folks. And it does
put in perspective the fact that essentially what we're doing
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is having fun on a playground. I mean, that's basically
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Bob Kravitz joins us now from Bob Kravitz dot com.
Of course, the lead authority on many subjects when it
comes to talking about them and covering them for many
years here in Central Indiana. And Bob I will give
you your choice. We can talk colts from yesterday. We can
(03:22):
talk your alma mater and Indiana football. Which one would
you like to lead with.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
Let's start with the beloved alma mater.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Okay, did you ever think, Bob in a gabillion years
and a gabillion years, that the Heisman Trophy would be
in Indiana? And your overall thoughts on Mendoza's speech and
just the vibe of Indiana football.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
Yeah, I thought his speech was great. You know, I
saw where Skip Bayliss, who has no soul, said it
was to rehearse and memorize. I'm like, dummy, it's on
a it's on a teleprompter.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
You know.
Speaker 4 (04:02):
Of course he's reading it.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
I mean he's of course he's memorized it to a
certain degree.
Speaker 4 (04:08):
In fact, the day after, not.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
The day after the night of the Big Ten game,
he couldn't sleep, so he put on a bunch of
Heisman Trophy speeches that he had collected just to study up,
which gives you some idea what this kid.
Speaker 4 (04:27):
Is all about.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Obviously, it also gives you an idea that he knew
this was a reality.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
He had to know that the Big Ten title game.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
You know, Bob I was intrigued by this for all
of the discussion and narrative that the Big Ten title
game was going to be for the Heisman, and Gus
Johnson only said at six hundred and forty six times
on the broadcast, Julian Sane finishing fourth surprised me?
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Did that surprise you?
Speaker 1 (04:52):
Not?
Speaker 5 (04:52):
Really?
Speaker 1 (04:52):
Not?
Speaker 3 (04:53):
After that game, I think he would drive. I figured
he dropped down one or two spots. I think there
was a lot of momentum for Diego Pavia coming into it,
so I was not surprised at all that it went.
Speaker 4 (05:08):
The way it went.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
You know, the good will that Diego Pavia had going
into the Heisman, he did a nice job of flushing
that away by Sunday afternoon.
Speaker 4 (05:14):
Didn't know, my lord.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
You know, I'm glad he had an apology, but I
can promise you that a lot of people a lot
smarter than him forced the issue. That's gonna really I
don't know when he's gonna go pro, but that's going
to follow him around for a very long time. I mean,
(05:38):
if he's trying to be Johnny Manziel, go right ahead.
Speaker 4 (05:42):
But things didn't work out well for manziel.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
I saw somebody that said he's Team MoU version of
Johnny manziel I thought it was perfect, good player, no question,
but yeah, bad spin on it. Okay, Bob what I
was just talking about? And I want the opinion of
Bob Kravitz. As I was watching Mendoza's speech, It was
not long after that that I then, you know, hit
(06:06):
the other option in my sports viewing on Saturday evening,
and that was Indiana Kentucky and rupp There was a
time in this state, with this fan base and this
university that everything was secondary to that game. And yet
as Indiana saw that game get away from them, it
was consoled by the fact that there was this glow
of a Heisman Trophy winner. And I know the easy
(06:29):
question would be is Indiana now football school? But in
terms of resources, has Indiana shifted its financial resource away
from basketball to the point where they are now dialed
in with the rest of the country of this is
a football first financial investment in basketball than his secondary.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
You know, I don't think they moved the money around.
I think with more money coming in from you know,
from all kinds of different sources, that they're putting more
money now into football. I mean, Brian Haynes has gotten
what four raises in the last year. I mean every
(07:12):
time somebody expresses some interest.
Speaker 4 (07:15):
But that's great.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
It's great for Brian Haynes, it's great for Indiana University.
You know, I'm old enough to remember that the day
is when a top assistant was gone, you know, as
soon as they got got a decent offer, and.
Speaker 4 (07:32):
I you would not try to match.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
So I don't know that they're necessarily moving more money
from basketball to football. I should know the answer, But
I think because they got more money coming in, more
money is than going to both sports, but football in particular,
because football pays the bills.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Okay, Bob, let me ask you this is it? Just me?
It seems to me. I just got done talking about this.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
It seems to me that right now, in twenty twenty five,
college football is on this meteoric rise in terms of
its popularity, its relevance, its discussion, its finances, it's television,
all of it. And college basketball is on this either
plateau or decline of it in terms of all of
those things that I just mentioned. Is that reality or
(08:25):
is that because I went to Indiana which is now
having football success and struggling in basketball.
Speaker 4 (08:32):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (08:32):
I don't know about excuse me about basketball diminishing in
the public guy.
Speaker 4 (08:38):
But certainly, you.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
Know, it's funny when nil and the transfer portal came in,
everybody was saying it's going to be the death knell.
Speaker 4 (08:46):
Of college football. The haves are the haves.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
Are going to dominate, the have nots are going to struggle,
and exactly the opposite has happened. You've got Vanderbilt, You've
got IU, You've got Texas Tech. Now the ground is flatter,
you know, like they say the world is flat the
(09:11):
old Thomas Friedman book.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
And that's kind of.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
The way it is with college with college football these days,
I think as much as we all hate the idea
of the portal and guys getting paid, it's been great
for college football. I mean, look at how competitive things
are right now, Bob.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
Should Philip Rivers start Monday Night against San Francisco Anthony Richardson?
Speaker 2 (09:37):
By the way, for those that are just joining.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
The program, multiple reports now Anthony Richardson medically cleared to
return to the Colts. That does not mean that he
is ready to play on Monday night, but medically cleared
to go back on the field and practice. Should Philip
Rivers be the starter Monday night?
Speaker 4 (09:54):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (09:54):
I think you should look for a guy to come
back after five year years off and have three practices?
What did anybody expect? I thought he exceeded what I
thought he could do. I thought it was going to
be something of a clown show and it was not.
You know, he did trip over the logo at midfield
(10:17):
one time, which is pretty funny, but uh, you know,
I thought he handled himself really well. The only the
only way I start ar is if with a game
or two left there they're they're mathematically out of it
and he's ready to go, because they got to find
out at some point with this guy has to offer?
(10:40):
Can he get can he come back as a backup?
Do they want him to be a backup next year?
To Daniel Jones, I think all those things are still
to be determined by Chris Ballard or whoever's running the show.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
Well, okay, and I want to get to that, Bob,
But real quick, my thought is this, though I agree
with you on Rivers. I mean I thought, yesterday, look,
the Colts were within a whisky, you know, a whisker
winning that game. I mean, kudos to them, And I
thought Rivers was a very good game manager, right, And
I have no knock on Philip Rivers or the way
he played except for this, and that is that because
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of the fact that as the game went on, Seattle
figured out, look, we don't need to drop back here
because you know he is not with the exception of
the one past appears he's a dank and dunk quarterback
at this point, right and and their their game plan
was fairly vanilla. If that's the case, why not go
with the guy that you know is at least going
(11:36):
to be on your roster. And I'm not talking about
Richardson and Leonard. If you're going to go with a
super vanilla game plan, why not go ahead and go
with the guy that at least you can find out
what is there for you moving forward? In terms of
a depth piece in Riley Leonard.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
I still think that your best chance, if you're still
in it, I believe your best chance of winning is
with Philip, which you know you're talking about ar He
hasn't practice, he hasn't done much of anything for months
and months and months. To expect him to come off
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this terrible injury and be and have a modicum of success,
I think is I think that's a long shot. Now
if they're mathematically out of it.
Speaker 4 (12:26):
Put ar in there.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
What can it hurt? You know, he needs the reps.
But as long as they're still in this thing, and
they are just barely, I go with Philip River.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
Mathematically, Bob, they're in it, Okay, yes, legitimately speaking, are
they in it?
Speaker 3 (12:45):
No, they're not there. They'll be very fortunate to win
one of these last three games, and that's not gonna
be enough to knock off Houston or certainly Jacksonville.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
Do you believe that Anthony Richardson will play again this year?
Speaker 4 (13:06):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (13:07):
I do.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
I think he might get a shot in the last
game of the season, or possibly the last two games.
Speaker 4 (13:15):
You know, uh, yeah, sure, you know. I mean, if
he's healthy and ready to go, get.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
Him in there, if it doesn't matter h then yeah, sure,
then I would play him.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
Do you believe that Chris Ballard is the guy that's
making decisions for next year? Oh?
Speaker 4 (13:33):
Yeah, no doubt.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
And you know, to follow up, you know, to answer
your expected follow up question, I believe Ballard would be
back next year. I believe Stike and will be back.
I think they're going to be giving a mulligan for
this season. I think they she carly erse Gordon went
into this thinking it's playoffs or bust. But given the
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circumstances answers, given the seven and one eight and to
start with Daniel Jones, I think they're going to give
the front office a mulligan and see if they can't
get it right next year.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
And then the other thing, Bob, that I was talking about,
I want your your thoughts on this, Bob Kravitz, my
guest Jaba House Peel and poor guest line. The Jones injury,
bad as it may be, If there's a silver lining there,
it's the fact that now theoretically his price tag, yeah,
you could franchise tag him, but his price tag to
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bring him back is not going to be what it
was anticipated it was going to be if he's healthy
and they were on the trajectory they were headed. Now
question is do we know for certain that when it
comes to the rehab and re entering back into a
place that this is where Daniel Jones wants to be.
Speaker 4 (14:50):
You know.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
I got to think though, just because of his relationship
with Shane Steike and the.
Speaker 4 (14:55):
Success that he had throughout the first.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
Nine ten games of the season, I think I think
you would be foolish to go elsewhere. I think he's
comfortable here. He's he's a low key guy. That's a
low key town. He's not built for New York. That's
not a good thing or a bad thing. It's just
not his personality. So I think, I think you will
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be back. I think the price tag won't be quite.
Speaker 4 (15:27):
What it was, as you mentioned. But he'd be.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
Crazy to go elsewhere because he's he resurrected.
Speaker 4 (15:35):
His career here. Why would he want to go anywhere else.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
The only place that I've heard with the possibility of that,
and after yesterday, who knows, right what the but I
the only other place I heard was was Minnesota. The
fact that because he has familiarity with Minnesota that if
they wanted to do a one eighty and say, you
know what, we will bring you back after all, that
that would be a possibility or something that could intrigue him.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
That's the only thing that I've heard.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
Yeah, well, you know, and if he goes to Minnesota,
he's not he's going to have to fight for a
job with McCarthy. If if he stays in Indianapolis, it's
his job.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
Well that's what I mean. Only Minnesota. Only if they said, hey,
you know what, like I said, if they did a
one eighty on it and said, you know what, this
is not the guy so and I'm okay, Okay.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
Yeah, I guess I guess that is a possibility. But
to me, you don't don't mess with Happy, And I've
done that in my career and it hit me in
the ass. So you know, you don't mess with Happy.
And I think he's got a good situation here with
a coach who's who gets him, and I think he'd
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be crazy to look elsewhere.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
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Speaker 2 (17:00):
I've been too long.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
You need to have you back on, man, But I
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Speaker 4 (17:03):
Sounds good, buddy, take care OF's out.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
Bob Kravitz joining us, Java, House peel and poor guest line.
All right, we mentioned the Anthony richardson News. What does
it mean. We'll get into that. Mike Chappel, who was
on top of this story. Going to join us here
coming up within ten minutes. Mike Chapel is the dean
of Coase Writers w XI in Fox fifty nine and
CBS four joins us now, Java House Peel and poor
guest line. Mike will get right to the big story
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in terms of today versus yesterday to start, and that
is that Anthony Richardson medically cleared for the Colts. Now,
if you could please elaborate for me on what that
means in terms of Anthony Richardson's availability short you know,
and say Monday night against San Francisco.
Speaker 5 (17:44):
Zero a little more than zero. But he hasn't practice
since he fractured is that overall bone? Gosh, October twelfth.
So all this means and I realized people get all
hyped up because he's been cleared for the next step,
(18:05):
but they have a you know, the first the next
step has to be them opening the twenty one day
practice window and then see how practices a week, two
weeks and then and then see, well there's only three
weeks to go. Monday night would be would be beyond
uh any expectation. I just I just don't see it.
(18:28):
I mean the fourth Butner played you know, most of
the season. Then he had the neck injury and they
opened up his practice window. Last week he practiced three
times limited and they didn't activate him. I would be
I would be so beyond shocked. I think there's a
better chance of you playing well, you know, Anthony Richardson.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
And I'm saying this to play Devil's advocate Chap. But
at the same time, if Anthony Richardson is not able
to play because he hasn't practiced in SoC Sober twelfth,
that means that they actually will go with the guy
that hadn't played in five years, right, I mean that?
Speaker 5 (19:06):
Well, yeah, but that see that that would But let's
take let's take Rivers out of the mix. If not
for Rivers, then then it wouldn't change the rehab process,
the return process of Anthony Richardson. If you're sitting here
today with Riley Leonard and and Brett Rippon, there'd be
(19:28):
a third guy here, obviously, that wouldn't That wouldn't mean, well, well,
we gotta get ar up to speed by Monday. No,
because his his is a separate His is a separate
UH storyline as opposed to what they need at quarterback.
Right now. So that's that's how people unders have to understand.
(19:48):
Is one he hasn't He hasn't practiced, you know, Alan
Iris in practice since since the middle of October, and
you're talking about a fractured face. A part of his
face has been fractured. And he's been able to do lifting,
he's been able to do some light running. But to
(20:10):
think that he's close to getting hammered by a defensive
player or to I think that just strains reality myself.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
So Mike, the reality is Mike chap On, my guest.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
I thought yesterday Philip Rivers, and you you tell me
where you disagree here. Okay, I thought Rivers, all things considered,
it was remarkable what he was able to go out
and do, just at the age of forty four or
five years off, et cetera. But as the game went on,
I think it was very clear that Seattle figured out, Look,
we don't have to drop back and protect against the
(20:47):
long ball here. We just need to basically put enough
in the box to spy on Jonathan Taylor and not
allow Rivers to make a an eleven yard completion and
just keep it as dank and dunk. Thought process is
while I have the utmost respect for Philip Rivers and
the Colts yesterday attempt at what they did, and you know,
(21:08):
to be within that game, I get it, or you know,
close in that game, I get it. But if you
are going to have to vanilla down your offense and
keep it relatively limited in terms of your play call,
why not go with the guy that is the younger
player that has a chance to be on your roster
next year and see what you have in him for
a depth piece moving forward. Tell me why I'm wrong.
Speaker 5 (21:31):
Well, I'm not seeing you're wrong. I just don't think
they see it your way. I believe that they believe
that Rivers with all of his limitations, and there are limitations,
we saw him all yesterday. Forget that he can't forget
his forty four because he's forty four. But with all
the limitations physically, the arm strength is not what it
(21:55):
was in twenty twenty, it's not still give him a
better chance to win if everything else works. You know,
I don't know that I can depend on Blake Groopy
hitting sixty yard field goals all the time, and I
really don't know that I can expect this defense to
(22:16):
keep the opposition Frisco, Jacksonville and Houston to no touchdowns.
That was a superb effort by the defense until until
they needed a shop you know, want to you know,
stop at the end forty two seconds to play and
Darnold had to make a couple of completions having set up.
(22:37):
I still believe that internally they think Rivers and all
that he does. Remember when at the start of the season,
when Shane Styken talked about why he chose Jones over Richardson,
it was it was the command of the game, command
of the line of scrimmage, the operation of the offense.
And I still believe that their thought says is that
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he does all that stuff getting into a good play,
getting out of a bad play, and recognizing defenses. That
helps compensate for what he can't do with his arm
that he used to do every week. If that's an
indictment of right, it entered and so be it. I
(23:21):
just that'll be one of the first couple of questions
has changed. I can in about a half an hour,
is is Rivers going to start on Monday night? And
I've got to believe He's gonna say yes that they
both he and and Rivers talked after the game about
how you know, I only had three days practice and
you know, I thought things done pretty well. And the
(23:42):
more I play, the more I can, the more the
offense can expand, although there's there's limitations on how much
it can expand. Uh. With with Rivers limitations, I just
I don't think that the fan base needs to understand
that I, barring injury, I think the plane is for
for Rivers start the last three games.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
Now.
Speaker 5 (24:05):
Maybe sike and throws the curveball today, I don't think so,
and the Richardson thing has juiced to it from the outside,
But I just I wonder if the team really expects
him to play in the second in two or three games.
I don't think so, but maybe Shane Stych can will
(24:27):
expand on that in a bit as well.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
JAP, do we have any update on Bernard Ryman.
Speaker 4 (24:33):
No, Uh, they.
Speaker 5 (24:35):
Were waiting for an MRI. I they don't think it's
I R level injury. But keep in mind there's only
three games left and to have a tackle with if
you know he was out there. Brett Bensley had a
good picture our potac guy audio or a video guy
(24:58):
a good picture of Ryman back out there, Yes, with
a big prace or or whatever on his arm, but
to have at least at least it's his right arm
to where he can still reach out with his left
arm at left tackle and play, I guess. But injuries
at this time of the year are not good because
(25:19):
you're running out of time to rehab. So hopefully he's back.
I would be surprised this week, I just would, but
hopefully he's back to wore those.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
Things over Chap.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
I look at if you look at the fact, you
know the Colts are now down two tackles right on
both sides, and you know Braden Smith will see what
happens long term with that off the ir But the
best protection at this point for the quarterback, whether it
be Philip Rivers or whoever it may be, I thought,
was in fact Jonathan Taylor, because conventionally, you would think
(25:53):
Seattle would have just said, we're just gonna blitz from
the left and right side, you know, at nauseum here
right and get after Philip Rivers, except that I think
they didn't want to run past their coverage of Taylor,
so they were better off just kind of keeping it
right behind the line. Stacking the box to spy on Taylor.
Limit the pass game to say seven yards and in,
and not get too aggressive as to not then get
(26:15):
beat by a draw. If you will to tailor or
let Taylor beat them. Is that overthinking it or do
you think that's the way that played out?
Speaker 5 (26:23):
No, that's how it played out. And if I'm Salo,
if I'm Frisco or anybody, I'm not overly concerned with
with Philip Rivers. I'm just not, you know, didn't condense
yourself all you want. At some point, more times than not,
something's going to go wrong, a bad throw, somebody dropping
the ball, a sack, a holding penalty of ball. Start
(26:45):
you get behind the scenes, and then you're in trouble.
I would make Jonathan Taylor beat me all the time,
and you know that. You know, people should notice they
ran the ball thirty times yesterday and threw it twenty seven.
I'm sort of surprised it was that in balance. I
thought they may run the ball more so. And it's
gonna if they're really gonna test Jonathan Taylor's stamina and patience,
(27:10):
because this is a guy that was averaging like six
yards of carrier or you know, mid season and now
it's it's like three five, three six because it's just
tough sledding and the only way to back people off
is to be aggressive down the field. And do you
I don't see that happening a player I feel bad for.
(27:32):
It's not like Pierce because I just don't see them.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
And he really wanted to target yesterday. I mean he
second highest number of snaps in one target right.
Speaker 5 (27:42):
There was really two because one of them was wiped
out by a penalty, I think, but no one official
target and on that great back shoulder throw. But you know,
so you can't maximize what some of your players do,
but this is where they are, and I it's it's
got the potential to be not very We've had the
(28:03):
entertaining part, you know we have. Yesterday was was almost
almost movie like. It almost was again if the defense
makes one more play and you win a game that
you know would have really added something to Rivers legend
and it's already pretty good. But I just don't I
(28:26):
don't see a steady dose of this type of an offense.
Was a three point seven yards a play. That's just hard,
and I just wonder how much the defense has left
in it when you're already playing with that Buckner and
Ward and Gardner. Maybe they get bucked back this week,
maybe they get Gardner back. But I just I thought
(28:50):
the defense gave all it had until it didn't have
enough to give it the end. But that's just that's
just asking a lot for the rest of the team
to do so much more because the offense just can't
do enough.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
Chap.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
I thought Amir Abduli yesterday was involved, obviously more than
we have seen him in the past. Is that because
they wanted to keep balance with Jonathan Taylor or is
that because he has a capability that is within the
comfort zone of what Philip Rivers likes.
Speaker 5 (29:21):
Probably both. Again, I mentioned on social media yesterday that
JT needed twenty five carries minimum, and that's what he got.
But they can't. They're not going to run him thirty
to thirty five times. They just aren't. They just wear
him out and wear him down and all that. So
I duly gave him a pretty good, pretty good change.
If somebody mentioned that he was almost like Nahim Heinz,
(29:43):
like how he can do things. He's better out of
the backfield than JT is. He just is so that's
where game planning. I thought, game plan wise, considering the
personnel limitations, I thought Stiken had a really good offensive
game plan and and Rumo had a really good defensive game. Point.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
No, it was Chap.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
It was actually and people can feel free to come
at me with this. Maybe I'm wrong, but in my opinion,
it was actually a well coached game. I thought, given
some of the handcuffs put on them, I thought it
was a well coached game.
Speaker 5 (30:16):
They were thirteen point underdogs. I mean, with my great knowledge,
I had a'm getting I picked them to get beat
thirty one thirteen in my game preview, just because I
didn't think that they could do enough in other areas,
and they did. Again, I'm not going to just bank
on you know, if we just get in positioned to
(30:37):
have group, you hit a sixty yarder, I mean, let's
not go there, because that's asking too much, because you
know so again, I just wonder what they've got for
an encore after doing all most everything right, can you
lose with a fifty six yard field goal at the end.
(30:57):
I just I wonder how they regroup. They will These
guys are prideful, They get paid well, and this this
is their job. I mean, they're not going to go
out there and to lay down at all, but at
some point, and they do not talk about it internally,
they don't, but at some point, your your personal limitations
(31:18):
keep you from doing what it takes to win a game.
And I'm just wondering how close to could start of
that with with three extremely tough opponents coming.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
Up, Chap, I know that, if I'm not mistaken, you're
getting ready to go in Shane Stikeen's availability real quick.
The things that we're wanting to learn today, the question
marks today that you are looking for answers for that
you'll have at CBS four and w x A and
Fox fifty nine are.
Speaker 5 (31:44):
First is is River? Are you? Are you going on
with rip with Rivers? And I think they are. And
then the follow up, in some form or fashion will
be but what what what.
Speaker 4 (31:54):
What will make you think that'll be?
Speaker 5 (31:55):
It'll be better, marginally better this week and the week
after and all they're going you know, it's gonna be
repetitions and familiarity.
Speaker 3 (32:04):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (32:05):
And then and then we'll ask ar questions. And I
don't think he'll move the needle much on that. I
don't think we'll get much of an update on Bernard Ryman,
but it's gonna be about about Rivers and moving forward
with him. How did he feel today when he get
out of bed after you know, he went at there
mowing the grass at age forty four? He was getting
(32:26):
beat on pretty good, right, so that it'll be Philip
Rivers driven. Uh, of course.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
All right, chap We appreciate the time. As always. We'll
let you get to it, all right.
Speaker 5 (32:37):
Thanks guy, be well my
Speaker 2 (32:38):
Chapel joining US CBS four in w X and Fox
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