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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Eddie, you said something I don't remember if it was
yesterday or Tuesday. That has been literally like a little
bird that just keeps chirping in my head. Okay, And
typically on this show, Wednesdays are the day. You know,

(00:20):
I've mentioned before the way the NFL season plays out,
and I think teams would tell you this. I think
if you were inside the locker room of the Indianapolis Colts,
if you were inside the facility, if you were in
the you know, the the rooms. And Brian Nubert of
Golden Black made a really interesting observation last weekend when

(00:43):
he said, when did we go from positions to rooms?
You know, now it's no longer hey the what are
the quarterbacks talking about? It's what's going on in the
QB room. Yeah, but you know, you think about it
in the facility kind of like in an LA elementary
school when you have you know, the kids in an
art class and the kids in pe whatever else.

Speaker 2 (01:05):
The NFL works that way.

Speaker 1 (01:06):
Obviously, they go in and then they go into their
individualized groups, and I think on Monday a lot of
that revolves around and it's dependent upon whether they win
or lose on the day before, but more often than not.

Speaker 2 (01:18):
For most teams.

Speaker 1 (01:19):
I've covered enough and arounded enough that typically the schedule
is on Monday, it's a very light day. Players go in,
they get treatment on whatever it is that maybe bothering them,
they get stretched, you know, et cetera. Right, they look
over some film of what it was that took place
on Monday. Then on Tuesday they carry on that with

(01:46):
on field stuff, and then on Wednesday, I think is
when they really start looking at and really getting deep
into who is the next opponent. And that's kind of
how sports talk radio works. You know, yesterday is the
day that typically we would have started getting more into
who the culture getting ready to face in the Los

(02:08):
Angeles Rams and whether or not, for example, you know,
all of the questions that come with an upcoming game,
and the first thing that you go to is, you
know what quarterback is the team getting ready to face. Well,
they're going to see Matthew Stafford, who we know, you know,
big arm, experienced Super Bowl winning quarterback. They have receiving
threats that we have become familiar with. They they have

(02:31):
a running back in Kyraen Williams that's been around and
we know what he can do. So there are a
lot of areas of that we would have really gotten
into yesterday, but obviously that took a back seat yesterday.
For paying tribute to Nancy Leonard. And again I want
to thank, on very short notice, yesterday, I want to

(02:54):
thank Bill Benner, Kevin Pritchard, Mark boyle Ark Monteith for
all contributing their reflections on Nancy Leonard and what she
meant to this town. And then this morning in particular,
a special tip of the Captain Mark Dyton, who put
together a very good and spent a long I don't

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know that people realize. You know, he spent a long
amount of time shifting through interviews of Nancy Leonard from
this radio station in other places, fairly exhaustively and exhausting
is the wrong word, but a lot of time that
he took going through finding different clips to play for
a really good montage that the guys used this morning,

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which was very well done of Nancy and Slick Leonard.
And then Eddie, you know yesterday you going on the
fly of while I'm talking and giving hand gestures having
to call people and get people on and I mean
it's not an easy thing that you had to do yesterday,
and you did, so thank you to all of that.
But having said all of that, what I kept going

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back to, now, knowing that today's and that we're going
to talk about the rams and we're going to really
dive into what the cults are facing, I kept hearing
this little bird in my head and it was in
your voice, which was terrifying.

Speaker 2 (04:14):
It wasn't soothing. I've been told by a lot of
people my fan base loves to hear my voice and
they find it very soothing to listen to.

Speaker 1 (04:23):
No, no, it was not soothing. Although I will admit this.
You mentioned your fan base in your voice, something I
wanted to get to and I want you to tell
me whether you think it's fact or fiction. But we'll
do that in just a little bit in terms of
commentary about the voices of this radio station or this
particular show. But you made the point, I believe two

(04:43):
days ago that Matthew Stafford, and when you are analyzing
Matthew Stafford and you're getting ready to face Matthew Stafford,
the reality is so far And yes it's only been
three I realize, but Matthew Stafford right now is completing

(05:04):
nearly seventy percent of his passes to two guys, and
that is key because it is I'm going to say
strength for lack of a better term, versus deficiency. I'm
going to say for lack of a better term, And
by that I mean clearly, you know, throwing two DeVante

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Adams in Nikua, I mean that's a pretty stout one
to two combo. Those are two guys that are pretty
darn good at getting themselves open, at making big plays
on receiving. I mean you're averaging basically the first down
of the change every time you connect with those two guys.
But of his just over I think sixty completions on

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the year so far, forty two of them have gone
to those two guys. So you can look at it
one of two ways. You can either sayiency for the
rams and the fact that their air attack is not
more versatile, not more spread out, or you could say
strengthen their behalf because those two guys are they get separation,

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they get themselves open, and Stafford gets them the ball
in rhythm at a very very good rate.

Speaker 2 (06:18):
They're just a nightmare to try to prepare for with
those two guys. Just because you can line Davante Adams
up outside you can line them in the slide. You
can do the same thing with Pukinnakua and not to mention,
you've got you know, a top two, top three offensive,
creativity minded coach and Sean McVay leading the way.

Speaker 1 (06:36):
Yeah, no, I totally agree with that.

Speaker 2 (06:38):
Now.

Speaker 1 (06:38):
The the reason why I say it could potentially be
going up against deficiency for the Colts not because the
Colts have a bad secondary. I think they have a
good secondary, but they have yet to really play as
a unit and as a core. And again with Kenny
Moore now out, and I think we can vary safely

(07:00):
say Kenny Moore. I'm not breaking any news here. I
have not heard what the latest is today, but clearly
we do not anticipate that we're going to hear some
sort of upgrade to Kenny Moore's health status for Sunday.
And so that again changes things of where you're moving
people around and you're again going with new faces Eddie

(07:22):
that I think if there's one area in the National
Football League where guys can come in basically off of
LinkedIn and suddenly feel comfortable, it would be in the
secondary because you're not as reliant on the others around
you and anticipating and feeling what your teammates are going
to do. But even with that, you know, you have

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guys that you're not totally familiar with just how in
step they're going to be in terms of rhythm. They've
done a good job, have the Colts I think in
that area so far. I mean, obviously they're three to zero,
but you do wonder how much if it makes sense
that they are going to be that that LA is
going to try to exploit that and attack that.

Speaker 2 (08:04):
Does that make sense? Yeah, that makes sense, Jake. And
you know, the new face on defense this weekend for
the Colts will be Mike Hilton. He's He's a seasoned veteran.
He understands leuis rimo scheme. After being you know, whether
it's running right, No, Mike, No, no, No, that's a
different Mike Hilton. Are you sure?

Speaker 1 (08:21):
Yes, the guy with the boots and the mustache isn't
running around out there, no, with black jeans on.

Speaker 2 (08:27):
No, okay, I just want to make sure, he said
yesterday when he met with the media. They he feels
like him and Kenny more very similar players, and feels
like those two have been, you know, two of the
best Nickels in the league the last five or so years,
and so it should be a seamless fit almost for
the Colts, hopefully on Sunday with Mike Hilton, and he'll
be tested right right out of the gate. Most likely

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we'll see Pukakakua, who lines up in the slot fifty
percent of the time. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (08:53):
So, And obviously because of it, you may have just
mentioned this, the fact that Mike Hilton comes with time
in Cincinnati. He's familiar with the looks, he's familiar with
the schemes, probably the jargon as well. So one would
hope that that means, to your point, seamless. But I
just I kept going back to and I don't know

(09:14):
the answer this. Nate Atkins is going to join us,
formerly of course at the Indianapols Star. He is now
a beat writer for the Rams as part of our
road trip, going to join us on the show today.
And one of the things that I want to talk
to him about is, you know, it is very early, admittedly,
but are Stafford and the Rams going to the familiarity
of those two receivers almost to the level of being

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repetitive out of luxury or out of necessity? Is it
because those two are so good and they are open,
you just can't stop it. Or is he going to
those guys because they are having an inability to get
others involved and open. And I think if you are
the Colts and you're looking at it, that does factor
into just the way that you guard it and defend.

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But we'll get more into that conversation over the course
of today. Also interesting comments made by one NFL coach.
I don't think it holds merit, but there is an
NFL coach We'll play it for you coming up at
the top probably the one o'clock hour that said some
things that seemed like a disrespect to one of the

(10:22):
Colts players. But then when you break it down, I thought,
I don't know that necessarily that's a complete disrespect because
it seemed like it didn't hold water. In terms of
comments that were made yesterday regarding the Colts, we'll get
into the fever as well. They get back into action
tomorrow night. That in game number three of the WNBA

(10:42):
Playoffs against Las Vegas, Eddie, did you do anything fun
last night since we were last.

Speaker 2 (10:47):
Together, Well, Jake, since you didn't wish me ifpy birthday yesterday?

Speaker 1 (10:50):
I forgot about that. Now, you know what, Let's make
offense in all sincerity. Yesterday was your twenty seventh birthday, right,
So basically I'm gonna die you said, right. You talked
about this last month when you mentioned you turned twenty seven.
I had the unfortunate Freudian brain slip of immediately associating

(11:14):
the age of twenty seven with the twenty seven Forever Club,
and you were unfamiliar with that, And then I had
to give you the bad news that there have been
a number of pop cultural icons that passed at the
age of twenty seven. We don't think that's going to happen,
and you don't worry different lifestyles for sure, But you
know what, here, let me say this typically, and I've
always felt like this with birthdays, your twenty first birthday.

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I mean, when you're a kid, every birthday is a
big deal up until like probably late elementary school, right
you have a birthday party, etc. Then you're sweet. Sixteen,
especially for a girl, is a big deal. I think
eighteenth is a big deal because you become an adult.
Twenty one is a big deal for the obvious reason,
and then after that it's really on the decades. Yep,

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to me was not really a big deal. A decent
amount was made at forty. My fiftieth was a national holiday,
and I will forever be grateful for the party that
was planned for my fiftieth and the execution of it
and the people that made time to do it. Having
said all of that, Eddie, that is not to belittle

(12:20):
your twenty seventh birth except you are It's okay, I
understand no, actually, because and I'll tell you why I
did think about this the at the age of twenty seven.
Comparatively speaking. You know, I look at where I was
in life at the age of twenty seven, and it

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is very impressive what you are doing, because you are
I think, well ahead of within this line of work.
I don't know that people understand or appreciate when it
comes to what you do each day. This is an
industry and a job that there are a lot of
people that would like to do were very fortunate to

(13:01):
be able to do it, but there just aren't a
lot of opportunities. And so part of how you at
the age of twenty seven would be not that that
makes you like some baby, I'm not saying that, but
you are far ahead of where I say myself, John,
you know a lot of Derek Schultz, you know where
a lot of us were at the age of twenty seven.
I think you're ahead of the game, and that's a

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credit to your determination and doing it, and just being
in position to be in position and then executing it
once it's called upon. So with that, I did think
about the fact that it was your twenty seventh birthday
and I did not do the proper job of commemorating
it yesterday. So my apologies.

Speaker 2 (13:39):
Oh yeah, I'm not mad at you at all, Jake,
you had other things on your mind. Nancy Leonard's passing
was much more important than my twenty seventh birthday.

Speaker 1 (13:46):
Did you do anything fun to celebrate your birthday?

Speaker 2 (13:48):
Went out to dinner last night? Olivia and my parents.
We went out to dinner last night. It was a
good time.

Speaker 1 (13:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (13:52):
How was Fizzoli's? It was quite fine? Did you Yeah? Okay?

Speaker 1 (13:58):
Did you you just set that No, should have gone
to Chicago's. Actually, but I understand. So you went to dinner.
Did you get any exciting gifts? H? No gifts? No,
no gifts. No, you didn't ask for gifts. Nobody gave
you gifts.

Speaker 2 (14:10):
No, I didn't. I realize that just people don't care.
I simply don't care. I just enjoy good company. That's
all I want to do on my birthdays, being good
company with people. Okay, I'm a nice dinner fair enough.

Speaker 1 (14:22):
By the way, two nine ten seventy is the telephone
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And then of course the show text line at in

(14:43):
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One of the things that was talked about this morning
on the morning show I know, Dan Wetzel was on apparently,
and my phone blew up speaking of people having my
phone number. He was talking about Kurt Signette and Indiana
and their matchup now coming up against Iowa, and it

(15:04):
is my understanding, my understanding that he dropped the phrase
why not Indiana. Now here's the thing. Yes, I've trademarked
the phrase, but only in commerce. I encourage people to
use the phrase in their normal vernacular if you are
talking about whether it be you're talking about the Hoosiers,

(15:25):
whether you're talking about the Pacers, whether you're talking about
just the state in general. I encourage the phrase why
not Indiana. I want this to become as household as
the phrase don't mess with Texas or Virginia is for lover,
Why not Indiana? Right lest My goal in life is
that when you drive on I seventy, or you drive

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on I sixty five, or you drive on I seventy four,
and you reach that point where you're crossing over into
the state of Indiana, instead of that kind of generic
looking sign that just says like I don't even know
what the sign says right now in terms of it
literally looks like an AOL dial up internet page when
you enter the state. Eventually, I want that state motto

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to say why not Indiana?

Speaker 2 (16:09):
You know, Jake, I cannot wait for that dat to
come and I can tell my kids about how you
used to work with the guy who came up with
that slogan.

Speaker 1 (16:14):
Pure Michigan. Pure Michigan's another one. I'm telling you, why
not Indiana is a phrase, but It is a fascinating
conversation because we brought this up again. Sometimes, Eddie, the
brain droppings lead to national conversation, right, thank you. We
did bring up and discuss when Mike Gundy was fired
at Oklahoma State, and that was I believe Tuesday. Yes again,

(16:40):
And I want to make very clear I don't have
any reason to believe I've not been told. As a
matter of fact, I've been told of the contrary. I
don't think that Kurt Signetti has any interest in going anywhere.
But the reality is when you do what he did
at Indiana, at Indiana, not at West Virginia, not at

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pitt not at Arizona State, not at places that have
had Nebraska, you know, it'd be one thing to go
to a place where they've had success in some era,
yeah and win there, because it's like, yeah, well, I mean, that's.

Speaker 2 (17:22):
Credit to them.

Speaker 1 (17:23):
You know, Arkansas, Arkansas has always been like a decent
program who has notre dame this weekend. Arkansas has always
been a decent Program's never been a you know, back
in the day, they had like in the seventies, they
had some pretty stout teams, but they've never been thought
of as terrible. So if somebody goes to Arkansas and
suddenly Arkansas is winning, it's like, oh yeah, okay, I
mean they got a good coach there. But when you

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go to Indiana, the losing his program in the history
of college football at the time that you arrive, fact
a program that their bowl games are few and far between,
so few and far between that I can basically off
the top of my head tell you right now Indiana's
entire bowl history literally, I mean, you got the Rose Bowl,

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you got the Holiday Bowl, you got the All American Bowl,
you got a couple of Peach Bowls, you got the
Insight dot Com Copper Bowl, you got the original Copper Bowl.
I mean, you know you got a Gator Bowl thrown
in there. I mean it's not it's it's pretty sparse.
So for Kurt Signetty to come from James Madison and
go to Indiana and had the success and have the

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success he had a year ago, then there is the
follow up of but how do you follow it up?
Can you back it up? And the fact that Indiana
right now is not just unblemished through three games, and
yes they or is it four now?

Speaker 2 (18:50):
I guess right four?

Speaker 1 (18:50):
I'm taking to the Colts four games, but the big
one being against Illinois, and because you have played Kennesaw
State old dominion in Indiana State, you know, people were like, well,
I got to see proof of the pudd in here.
And I think what we're finally seeing is that when
it comes to the Signetti foot, you know, thumbprint or

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statement in Indiana, people now are like, you know what,
We're not going to do this again this year. We're
not going to do this again this year. Where it's like, yeah,
but I got to see next week, Yeah, I gotta
see it. I think people now are like, no, they're good.
And not only are they good, they may be better
than a year ago. They that Illinois game, he was right.
They broke their will. And it comes with great quarterback play.

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It comes with timely defensive play, It comes with not
turning the ball over and getting turnovers. It comes with
special teams, and it comes with a swagger. There's a
swagger about Indiana football that starts with Kurt Signetti. And
I understand when you have marquee programs that are looking
in Oklahoma State's not a marquee program, but it's been

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a good program and they've got deep, deep, deep, deep
deep pockets. So if Oklahoma State's looking for a coach
and things are shaky in Alabama, I don't think they
really are. But by Alabama standards, they are okay. And
you have other programs like that Florida that are historic
or at least of recency, at the very least big

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time programs with big time booster. It is the ultimate
compliment to Indiana that Kurt Signetti's name is going to
get mentioned. It's going to get mentioned. It's inevitable. However,
this dude is different, and I do believe that. And
you know, he's making nine and a half ten million
in Indiana. That in Bloomington, Indiana probably goes a lot

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further than it does for you in I mean, I
don't think Gainesville, Florida is necessarily Beverly Hills, but you know,
in Florida there's no state income tax whatever else. But
in Bloomington, Indiana, you can live pretty darn nice on
nine hundred grand, let alone nine and a half million.

Speaker 2 (20:59):
Right.

Speaker 1 (21:00):
But I also think that Signetti is just wired in
such a way when you combine his age with the
fact that he has the opportunity at Indiana to say no,
I'll be Nick Saban here. And I don't mean Nick
Saban like I'm gonna win national championships every year. I
just simply mean he's a guy that's like, no, I
can coach here for you know, nine ten years. Leave

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my mark on it. They'll build a statue of me,
They'll rename a future stadium for me. Whereas if you
go to a Florida, you go to an Alabama, even
for that matter, in Oklahoma state, and you have success,
it's somewhat expected that that's what and especially under the
tents in which you're going to be hired in a
double digit salary. I don't double digit a million salary.

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I don't think that that other schools right now. And
I know this is the craziest thing that I never
thought I would say when I was twenty seven.

Speaker 2 (21:53):
Year old me.

Speaker 1 (21:53):
Never ever, ever would have dreamed in a million years
that I would be saying on the radio one day
that it is hard to believe that other programs would
have more to offer to a coach right now than
what is there and available at Indiana, especially when you
consider the monetary aspect of what he's already getting and
theoretically could continue to get but I know that that

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question was brought up this morning, and Signetti's name is
going to be continue to throw out there. And it's
funny with Indiana because Indiana is now in a situation
where Iowa was a trap game. Iowa used to be
a benchmark game. Now it's a trap game because you
look at it and you go, well, they got Oregon
after that, and they got to go to Iowa, which
is a darn good program and Kirk ference is a

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darn good coach and he's been there a long time.
And Farence was is yesterday's Kurt Signetti, right, But now
that's like a trap game because it's like, Wow, Indiana's
got bigger things.

Speaker 2 (22:47):
To worry about.

Speaker 1 (22:47):
What I mean, what I'm getting at here is that's
good for Indiana. Why not Indiana Baby T shirts may
become By the way, Nate Atkins is going to join us.
What's that more T shirts? Football variation?

Speaker 2 (23:07):
We're working on it. Let's go. I got my people
on top of it. Your people nice.

Speaker 1 (23:12):
It is time for a Thursday road trip, but this
time we're actually going to go through the air correct
because we can't drive to lam and we can drive
to La.

Speaker 2 (23:18):
But it's going to take a while, right. I don't
think you want to be in a car with me
that long.

Speaker 1 (23:20):
So yeah, you got to drive all the way across Kansas.
It's long, flat and boring, and you got to see
the little statues they've built for me since I spent
a year there before I funked out. So I mean,
you know, I mean there's a lot to get to there.
But Nate Akins, formerly Indianapolis Star, now covers the Rams
joins us other side. We will get the Rams perspective
on this game coming up on Sunday out on the
West coast, and we'll do it next California, indeed where

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we are headed. As a matter of fact, is I
have only mentioned four hundred and sixty four times on
this program whenever the Rams and the Colts play. It
should be pointed out that these two franchises at one
time were involved with an owner swap. By that, I
mean when Bob er Say, who was living in Chicago,

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initially wanted to become an NFL owner, he bought the
Los Angeles Rams and then made a trade, an ownership
trade with the Rosenbloom family, who owned the Baltimore Colts,
and thus he became the owner of the Baltimore Colts
ultimately moved them to Indianapolis. Speaking of moves, Nate Atkins
from the Athletic out in Los Angeles, of course, formerly
with the Indianapolis Star, and it's just getting acclimated to

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the West coast and covering the Rams. Who the Colts
will see this Sunday and he joins us now on
the program, Nate, welcome back to the Indianapolis airwaves.

Speaker 3 (24:36):
How are you, joll well, Jake, thanks for having me.
It's cool to get to talk about, you know, one
team that I'm getting to know, one team that I
knew for the past four years. And nice to have
a big game too. I did not expect the Colts
to be three in l but it's real nice of
them to get good right as I have to be.

Speaker 1 (24:54):
You know, when you if you get homesick at all,
and I can't what is your hometown, Nate, where did
you grow up?

Speaker 3 (25:01):
I Assland, Ohio, which about an hour south of Cleveland.

Speaker 1 (25:05):
Home of Tim Richmond. By the way, I think we
might have discussed that, but so so, if you get
homesick for Indianapolis, though, just a little tip here and
then we can get to football. What I have found
is when you're in the Los Angeles area, if you
walk the Santa Monica Pier and just take a look
at the Pacific Ocean, it does kind of feel like
you're at Wolfe's at Geist.

Speaker 3 (25:23):
So just so you know, okay, yeah, that was my
first thought when I got out there. So I'll tell
you what it's like. You move all the way out
here and you're really in the same place.

Speaker 1 (25:33):
Yeah, yeah, in the weather as well. Right, let's begin
with this from the Rams standpoint and any point of
this out. I was looking at it more yesterday and
it is of interest to me. Matthew Stafford, who is
obviously a big armed, strong armed quarterback, he has thrown
the majority of his passes to this point. Now it's

(25:53):
early in the year, but you know, DeVante Adams and
pugun Akua, the two guys that are catching the majority
of past Is that simply a familiarity thing or are
the Rams at this point limiting themselves of is there
a reason why they're not spreading the wealth so to speak?

Speaker 3 (26:12):
Yeah, I think it's well. With Puka Nakod's definitely familiarity.
He has really been a star since he came in
the league two years ago and played every game with
Matthew Stafford and he's averaged more than ninety yards in
those games, and so that one has been building. And
then DeVante Adams is just the guy that they went
out in the off season to get to replace Cooper

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Cup and become that other high volume player, and they're
trying to build that in games since they didn't get
a chance to really in training camp. Matthew Stafford missed
basically all of it with this back issue, and so
they don't get a lot of practice reps because DeVante
Adams always takes Wednesdays off and so they're working through
some things in games. But also, like Stafford has always

(26:57):
been a high wide receiver type quarterback over the tight ends.
That's that goes back to when I saw him in Detroit.
He would just pepper those wide receivers and and so
the more that he throws to those two and the
more that it works, the more it builds trust and
it's harder for others to cut into that. What he
could really use is a pass catching running back because
he's had that in his past. They just don't have

(27:20):
that here. They just have guys that are just here
to run the ball. But they're eventually going to have
to diversify it a little bit because if one of
those guys gets hurt, they just don't have anything really
built up around him. And it's it's kind of mystifying
to some people here because they paid two to two
at well ten million dollars to be a receiver and
he's barely playing. They drafted Terence Ferguson, a tight end

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out of Oregon in the second round and they've he's
played four snaps on the season, so they're not really
using the other investments that they have, and so far
it's it's worked for the passing game to just go
to these two. But you do wonder how sustainable it
is in how how they keep everyone healthy, because Devanta
Adams now do with a hamstring issue and Stafford is

(28:02):
on pace right now to become the first quarterback in
twenty five years to throw seventy nine percent or more
of his passes to wide receivers. So you just wonder
how long that can really hold up. But so far,
when those guys have been on the field, it's worked
quite well. So that's why they keep going to it
and Nate.

Speaker 1 (28:17):
When you look at, you know, statistically speaking, the average
yardage per play when Stafford is completing to those two guys,
you know you're into like the eleven to fifteen yards
per per catch area. Now, I guess my question for
you would be, is that yard after catch receiver during
the doing the work stuff, or does Stafford, who is

(28:40):
and has been one of the strongest arms in league history,
but he's older and he's coming you know, he's had
injuries and et cetera. Is he now a rhythm passer
and the and he's getting them in rhythm where they're
then in space, or does he still have the deep
ball precision aspect of his game that he had as
a younger player.

Speaker 3 (28:59):
It's sort of of a mix of that where he's
not going deep down the field all that often, but
he's really going to that intermediate level. And so that
really happens with DeVante Adams, which is why his his
catch rate isn't quite asized.

Speaker 2 (29:12):
Puka Tokus.

Speaker 3 (29:12):
They really try and get these chunk plays, and they
got one for forty four yards on Sunday, But usually
these are kind of between i'd say fifteen to twenty
five yards is where they run a lot of those routes,
and Pukina Coup is more the guy that will settle
at like ten yards, catch it and then do something
with the ball in his hands, you know, yards after contact.
So Stafford mostly has the He has the same arm

(29:35):
strength he's always had from what I can tell. What's
a little different now is that he's trying to throw
the ball before he gets touched in any capacity because
he's thirty seven. He has the back issue, so he's
not standing in there and throwing well taking a hit
the way he used to, and so he'll let it
out a little quicker than that he used to when
he would go weed deep down the field. And they're

(29:56):
hoping that the kind of the spacing of everything can
let guys either catch it intermediate or in Pucas case,
catch it and do something with the ball afterwards. So
it's it's been it's been really fun to watch them
transition this offense to you know, having Stafford in this
place where it's still the same arm, but he's he's
just trying so hard not to get touched, and their

(30:16):
pass protetion has not been all that good so far.
So that's kind of rushed it a little bit more.
But these guys are getting open so much in that
intermediate part of the field that it's still working to
release the ball pretty quickly and he's got the velocity
to still kind of get it to where he needs
to get it right now. So it's it's a real
intermediate part of the field type offense.

Speaker 1 (30:35):
Who's the biggest celebrity that you have serendipitously run into
in and around Los Angeles?

Speaker 3 (30:43):
Well, my first day it is so far. I got
in the elevator with Brad Beale, So that's probably the
biggest one so far. Clippers just signed Brad Beale and he,
you know, he interestingly enough, grew up in Saint Louis,
so he's a Rams fan from back then. But mostly
I've just been to the facility and back. It have
to be Rams players if it's not Brad Beal.

Speaker 2 (31:02):
Okay, now what about this? You live?

Speaker 1 (31:04):
How far from the facility? And the reason I ask
is because how long does it take you to get there?
If you're in rush hour traffic?

Speaker 3 (31:12):
Rush hour traffic, it's going to take over an hour.
But it's three weeks, right, Yeah, Usually I get to
avoid it. They press it in the kind of the
early afternoons. It takes about thirty five minutes. I get
if I get lucky.

Speaker 1 (31:25):
You know that the stadium is for those that are
and maybe people from here are going to be going
out because the stadium is unbelievable. It's near Inglewood, sent
it's not far from Lax. It's it's fascinating because when
you drive past it, you literally can almost And I'm Nate,
I'm being totally serious when I say this. I've wondered
if it hasn't impacted traffic in LA on a game

(31:47):
day because if the window or whatever it is is open,
like you can see on the video board, you can
watch the game while you're driving past it. It's crazy, right,
So it's a phenomenal facility. And with that for people
that are going out, I mean, LA's awesome, right, But
they're going to see what from the Rams defensively when

(32:08):
we watch this game, because you know, right now, Daniel
Jones is in rhythm, they are Shane Stikeen is calling
it masterfully. They're taking care of the football. But the
Rams defensively this year have done what.

Speaker 3 (32:23):
So what's unique about the Rams is just how good
they are with a four man pass rush, which I
think is gonna be really key this week when you
look at the numbers of how the Colts are handling
teams that blitz them. That was Denver's problem in Week
two is that even though they have talent in the
pass rush, they looked at Daniel Jones' career numbers going
back to the Times the Giants, and thought, you blitz
this guy, You'll get in his head, you'll affect him,

(32:44):
you'll create turnovers. And instead the Colts have all these
answers because they have so many guys to get the
ball to with Tyler Warren's edition, in addition to they're
receiving Court even Job and Taylor catching passes.

Speaker 2 (32:55):
So I think the Rams are.

Speaker 3 (32:55):
Going to do it differently where they're going to mostly
rush four players. They will blitz the safety on occasion,
I promise that, but they're there. I think they're gonna
dial that back and just try and do it at
moments when they hope that Daniel Jones doesn't see it,
because they've got enough of a pass rush already with
Jared versus the big name, the reigning defensive Rookie of
the Year, on one side, but Byron Young is really

(33:17):
ascended at the other. And then they've got names like
a rookie Josiah Stewart, Kobe Turner, Braden Fisk. They're just
gonna mix and match these guys in the four man
pass rush, and you'll see them overload one side. You'll
see them flip the matchups between Verse and Byron Young
on the left and the right side. So they're gonna
move guys around so that they kind of get fresh matchups,
and that's gonna be the unpredictability, but it's gonna be

(33:39):
less so through the blitz because they also really have
to hang up and coverage. When they lost their top
outside cornerback Kelly Witherspoon. That is the weakest spot on
this team is those outside cornerback spots, and so I
think that's why they're also praying that they don't have
to see Alec Pierce this week because last week the
duo of a G Brown Devatas Smith that ended up

(34:00):
winning the Eagles of the game down the stretch, that
those matchups aren't in their favor, but against most teams,
their hope is that the pass rush is enough to
kind of overwhelm teams just with four men in rush,
and then they've got kind of three safeties that they'll
play as their nickel package and move those guys around
to kind of try to keep a lid on things.

(34:20):
And so really a lot of this game I think
is going to come down to that matchup between the
Rams pass rush and just how much the Colts offensive
line can hold up against it. They can give Daniel
Jones time he can exploit those outside corners, but I
do think this will be the best pass russ that
the Colts have faced so far.

Speaker 1 (34:39):
Nate Atkins is our guest here. He's on the guest
line and of course with the Athletic out in Los Angeles,
formerly with the Indianapols star covering the Colts. Nate, I
wanted to get your thoughts on this. This is THEO
if I'm not mistaken, and correct me if I'm wrong,
the fourth NFL franchise that you have covered. You have
covered the Bears, you've covered the Lions, you've covered the Colts,
and now the rank Ms. So with that, so you know,

(35:03):
now that I think about it, you're like halfway to
the Wizard of Oz trio right in terms of how
you've covered. But having said that, now that you've had
a chance to kind of compare and contrast or see
various operations, how did the Indianapolis Colts in terms of
just the infrastructure of the franchise, the way they go
about their business, all things considered, how did they compare

(35:27):
or contrast to other franchises you have covered.

Speaker 3 (35:33):
Yeah, So the interesting thing is two of the last
three that I've covered have had Matthew Stafford at quarterback.
And I found that that is really the glaring difference
from my time with the Colts is that when especially
now I see this at the Rams. They just lost
the game on Sunday. That was heartbreaking and infuriating when
they had a twenty six to seven lead and they
couldn't finish. But their response was really a lot more

(35:55):
positive than I was expecting. You know, they wanted to win,
but they felt like, this is week three, We leveled
up to a really good team, fell a little bit short,
but we'll see them again. There's such a confidence that
they will be in that moment, and there's a confidence
when they're down too, because of the quarterback that they have.
And I just think the Colts didn't ever really get that,
you know, when I was there, even when things were

(36:17):
going pretty well, you know, with Gardner Minshew's season and
they almost made the playoffs at times when you know
they would nine got to nine and six. The first
year I was there with Carson Wentz, like they had
some good teams, but they didn't ever feel like the
reason they were good was the quarterback. And that's the
difference here. It was the difference in Detroit. And so
I think that kind of kind of sums up everything,

(36:39):
is that there's just sort of an everyday, every moment
confidence and belief when you step in a building and
you don't have questions about first of all, who's even
gonna start at quarterback, but second of all, like what
that guy can do as a leader and as a
player out there. The Colts when I was there, had
this weird mix of like they would either get they
got you know, solid the decent play out of Gardner

(37:01):
Minshew quarterback, and it's times from Carson Wentz. But you know,
Carson Wentz was never really that guy for the franchise,
that leader type. And then when they went after the
leader type and Matt Ryan, you know, he didn't have
to play anymore. You know, at his age and his
level that he was at right now. The Rams, for
as long as they can keep Stafford healthy, they feel

(37:21):
like they've got both. And when you feel like you
have both, just a totally different feel coming off of losses.
It's a different feel when you are down in games.
They just feel like they're going to be in all
these moments, and so they that gives you confidence that
even when you struggle, even when you have really bad
moments like two blocked field goals like the Rams just had,
they can go after kind of these improvements in very
specific areas, knowing we're going to be in the big games,

(37:44):
We're going to have a shot at the end of
the game. I don't think the Colt necessarily had that,
And I think what also you find out is that
teams often will take on the personality of either the
head coach of the quarterback, and usually both, and so
when the quarterback is changing so much, just gets really
hard for a team to have an identity. And I
just felt that all the time with the Colts is
that they couldn't really figure out what kind of team

(38:05):
they wanted to be where they were this great rushing
team in twenty twenty one until that fizzled out. But
the more that the spotlight went on the quarterback and
the more that that position just kept changing, there just
was a lot of confusion and a in kind of
a lacking belief about kind of the elverall upside. So
there was a kind of a comfort level in Indy
because you know, they kept the same general manager and

(38:26):
a lot of the players would you know, they'd run
it back, and so there was sort of like this
baseline culture of like, we played together for a long
time and we'll be together. But there wasn't necessarily this
belief in, like, you know what the ultimate upside's going
to be. Whereas the Rams come off a game they
lose the Eagles and they say, okay, well we'll be
back here and we'll have to take our shot again

(38:46):
against these guys. And I don't think it's just talk
from them. I think that's what they actually believe because
that's how their season ended last year. And so there's
just sort of a mix of a tracker kord of
a team that's won with a quarterback who's done it
at a lot of levels and keeps doing it, and
the Colts have been looking to get back to that,
and who knows, maybe they'll get there with Daniel Jones now,
but that's what they've been seeking so much. I just

(39:06):
feel like the quarterback. Yeah, we talk about it so
much in Indie because on the field it matters so much.
But I've also found like every single walking, waking moment
in a building goes back to that position too, And
that's that's the kind of the biggest difference I've seen
between those teams.

Speaker 1 (39:21):
Biggest thing that Shane Styken has preached operationally, the quarterback
is the guy that has to have a firm understanding
above and beyond just in the huddle. And I think that,
you know, at no disrespect to Anthony Richardson, you are
seeing now the reasons why Daniel Jones was the selected
quarterback for Shane Styke and Nate Atkins with The Athletic
covering the Rams, Rams and Colts on Sunday, Nate, good

(39:43):
talking to you, man, I appreciate it. Enjoy LA all right, yep,
thanks for having me, Nate Adkins joining us on the program.
LA is awesome. By the way, I would love to
live in La now. In terms of that, he touched
on something very interesting there operationally and the quarterback and
the fact that you can see it throughout the entire building.
Sometimes when you have the guy that's not the guy,

(40:04):
even other coaches can see it. And that was the
case a year ago for Indianapolis. I'll explain and I'll
let you hear what. You're gonna be surprised what one coach.
I was surprised that he said it about the Colts
quarterbacking situation from a year ago. But we'll play you
clips from an NFL coach regarding the Colts, and we'll
do it in about twelve minutes from now, and then
one thirty Mike Nysilik from the Bloomington Herald Times. Because

(40:27):
there was big news in Indiana in the courtroom, not
just on the football field. We'll get to that bottom
of the hour. NFL talk coming up, quarterbacking position for
the Colts. Top of the hour here, Eddie. Last night
it was a kind of a flurry of and this
happens every year, obviously, but down the stretch now in
Major League Baseball and the Reds. Did you watch the

(40:50):
Reds game last night?

Speaker 2 (40:54):
No? Why are you torturing me?

Speaker 1 (40:58):
You know, I'm watching it, and I'm like, you know,
and I'm keeping an eye on the Mets and what
the Mets are doing and the Cubs are helping out.

Speaker 2 (41:05):
And then.

Speaker 1 (41:08):
I was thinking. Last night I called my buddy Eric
Ritchie that used to work at Fox fifty nine, lives
in New Orleans. Great dude, and Eric Ritchie is the
biggest Reds fan I've ever met.

Speaker 2 (41:16):
And I am a.

Speaker 1 (41:19):
I'm the first to admit I'm kind of a I mean,
I'm a Reds fan. Yeah, but I'm not like the
diehard watch every single game fan. But I asked Eric,
and I'm curious your thought on this, Eddie, because you
are a Reds fan.

Speaker 2 (41:31):
Uh huh.

Speaker 1 (41:32):
Painfully, I think the answer to the question I'm about
to ask is largely dependent upon age. Okay, who is
the Cincinnati Reds rival?

Speaker 2 (41:43):
I don't have one anymore.

Speaker 1 (41:46):
Who would you say it is or has been? Cardinals?
See here's the problem with that, I know. I mean,
the problem with saying it's the Cardinals is you wouldn't
meet any Cardinal fan that says.

Speaker 2 (42:00):
It's the Reds. I probably would disagree, just because there
have been some bad blood between the two.

Speaker 1 (42:07):
Yeah, I get I mean, some of the Yaddy Molina stuff,
I get it. But I think, having covered the Cardinals
that lived in Saint Louis, it's the Cubs and it's
not close. I mean that like they I don't know
why the Cubs and Cardinals. It's you know what I mean. Yeah,
but again based on age. I mean, I'm not saying
you're totally wrong here. For me personally, when I consider

(42:32):
the kind of the last blow in the blow up
of the Big Red Machine and then the ninety NLCS
and the Quato game more recently, and then like even
going into yesterday, just because both franchises have kind of
been mired to mediocrity, I think it's somewhat.

Speaker 2 (42:49):
The Pirates for the Reds. Yes, no, but.

Speaker 1 (42:54):
Here's the thing. Who's so who's the Pirates' rival?

Speaker 2 (42:57):
Nobody? Because they're never good.

Speaker 1 (42:59):
Exactly what I'm saying is historically speaking, historically speaking for
the Reds, I think you would say, if you want
to go with the bigger Red Machine, I mean, you
could throw in like the Yankees of the Athletics, because
if you go back, especially to the early seventies, the
Athletics were the dominant team in the American League the
Reds and the National League. The A's were the team
that had facial hair and long hair, and you know,

(43:20):
the Reds were the team that was didn't allow that
and all looked like they were math teachers and you
know whatever else. So ideologically there were differences between those
two franchises. But for the Reds now because they have
not been very good, like in my lifetime. If there's
one the reason I say the Pirates is because the
Pirates are a team kind of without a rival, so
they would probably say I think there are a lot

(43:43):
of Pirates fans that would say how much they don't
like the Reds because of seventy nine and ninety and
the Quato game and all of that. But last night
is a prime example though, of here the Reds have
an opportunity, and yet the Pirates, even though they're terrible,
it's like the one team they can't get past.

Speaker 2 (43:58):
You know, They've had an opportunity in the last two nights,
I know, and they lost. Jake Oo. I mean, you
need to calm down, you need to need a WUSA.
I'll be fine.

Speaker 1 (44:09):
Speaking of Pittsburgh, something that was recently said about the
Colts from there that caught my ear. I was surprised,
but not totally. We'll play it for you next. Several
ways to contact us. Somebody says, I'm a Cards fan, Jake,
it would be Cubs first, then Reds. I think it's
largely the Cardinals are an interesting franchise because there are

(44:34):
several teams and this is a testament to the Cardinals.
There are several teams that would tell you that the
team they hate most first is Cardinals. But for the Cardinals,
you know, I think it's definitely the Cubs, and that's geographic.
The Cardinals for so long have had really no peer
when it comes to the overall depth of tradition within
the National League. But two three, nine, ten to seventy

(44:56):
is how you can both text the show and vocally
joined the show.

Speaker 2 (45:01):
And because Cubs fans find Cardinals fans insufferable, and.

Speaker 1 (45:06):
Yes vice versa. Yes, well, I think here's the thing
that's stupid.

Speaker 2 (45:11):
Fly the W and the Cubs go.

Speaker 1 (45:15):
Cardinals fans. Okay, Cubs fans tire of as does every
normal sports fan in America. They tire of the high
brow snobbery of the Cardinal fan base, and Cardinal fans
tire of the the envy they have for the fact
that the Cubs are centered around not their baseball tradition,

(45:36):
but their party tradition.

Speaker 2 (45:39):
We're baseball purists. We understand the game and we actually
applaud a bunch and the sacrifice because we understand.

Speaker 1 (45:47):
Whereas Cubs are like, you know, wooo, bring me another
old style. Before we get to what took place yesterday,
I believe it was in Pittsburgh. In regards to comments
about the Colts quarterback position, I do have this question
for you, Eddie, and that is if I was going
to tell you right now, okay that you get I'm
going to give you round trip tickets for your birthday

(46:10):
to go to an NFL game this weekend. And I'm
not talking about the place where you most want to
enjoy the city. I'm saying like, we're going to fly
you in just just to experience the crowd, the stadium,
the atmosphere, and also just the matchup, a matchup that's
intriguing to you that you're like, you know what, that
might be a fun game to watch. I'm going to
read for you quickly this weekend's matchups. I want you

(46:30):
to tell me the Marquee one and there's a reason
I'm getting to this. Okay, Seattle at Arizona, Washington at Atlanta,
Cleveland at Detroit, Carolina at New England, Philadelphia at Tampa,
Jacksonville at San Francisco, Chicago in Vegas, the Jets in Miami,
Minnesota at Pittsburgh, New Orleans at Buffalo, Tennessee at Houston,
the Rams at the Giants, excuse me, the Chargers at

(46:53):
the Giants, Baltimore in Kansas City, Green Bay and Dallas
and Cincinnati and Denver. Which game is the one that
you're like, That would be an awesome atmosphere, great game, fun,
intriguing to watch, love to see the stadium, love to
enjoy the fans, etc.

Speaker 2 (47:09):
Looks like I'm going to Arrowhead.

Speaker 1 (47:12):
Okay, Now that game and Arrowhead intriguing because not only
do you have two teams that are you know, that
could be a separation Sunday type game. One of those
two teams is going to be one in three take
unless they tie, which is crazy, right. Yeah, both of
those teams are where they are and have the reputation

(47:32):
they do based on elite quarterback play. Obviously, it goes
without saying. And even at one in three, both of them,
you feel like still have a chance to rebound and
save their season based on the fact of their quarterback.
Lamar Jackson is having a honestly a historically great start

(47:55):
to the season.

Speaker 2 (47:57):
Patrick Mahomes.

Speaker 1 (47:58):
Patrick Mahomes goes without saying quarterback is the most important
position the National Football League. Quarterback is the most important
position in sports.

Speaker 2 (48:08):
It is.

Speaker 1 (48:10):
Yes, it helps in baseball to have a dominant ace pitcher,
but that impacts you every fifth game. It helps you
to have a dominant home run and for average hitting
center fielder that can range all across the place, but

(48:31):
that impacts you every two and a half to three
innings at bat and maybe one or two plays defensively
per inning. In basketball, yes, it is so critically important
to have a dynamic guard that can see the floor,
run the floor, score for multiple areas. Tyrese Haliburton obviously is,

(48:52):
but they're not necessarily on the floor for the entire game.
But they also have to play defense. I mean, there's
so many aspects to it. The quarterback is the most
important position in the National Football League. And what is
so fascinating is that the Colts, obviously in the draft
of Anthony Richardson. We knew that what they were going

(49:14):
to do was try to groom that quarterback into being
the guy. And I understand why they were so intrigued.
I do, because there were just so many things that
were so fascinating and intriguing about Anthony Richardson, the size,
the athleticism, the arm strength, all of it.

Speaker 2 (49:36):
And yet.

Speaker 1 (49:39):
When they brought in Daniel Jones, the thought process was
they are bringing him in, Daniel Jones as a safety
net backup, but to wake up Anthony Richardson to say, look, kid,
we realized that we handed you the keys, but we
got another guy that can play, and we're not afraid

(49:59):
to put potentially go to him if you don't start
to kind of figure things out. And I figured things out.
I mean yes, reading a defense or seeing the blitz
that came in preseason game number one, you know that
dislocated his finger. But more so, and I want to
be clear here, none of this makes Anthony Richardson a

(50:23):
bad person. None of this makes Anthony Richardson for that matter,
a you know, a bad quarterback, but it denies him
the chance to be a better quarterback. And by that
I mean, you know, leadership is an interesting thing. I
don't know. Leadership is one aspect in any walk of life,

(50:44):
whether it be in your circle of friends, whether it
be in business, whether it be in sports. Leadership is
something that I don't know necessarily that you can teach it.
Either have it or you don't.

Speaker 2 (50:57):
You know.

Speaker 1 (50:59):
My mom was a preschool teacher. My birthday is the
first week in September, and when I was of the
age of enrolling in kindergarten, my parents had the option
of either holding me back because I was in that
one week gray area, advancing me and having me be

(51:20):
one of the older kids in my grade, or delaying
me a year and having me be one of the
younger kids in my grade. And my mom, being a teacher,
said I went ahead and enrolled you early because or
not early, I'm sorry, waiting until the next year where
I was the oldest in my grade, because she said,
I just noticed with boys at a young age, you

(51:45):
tend to be less a follower when you're the older
amongst your peers, when you were at an influential age.
That's not to say that I was that I took
advantage of that, but what I'm saying is there are
things circum substantially around you at a very young age.
That can determine whether or not you're like a leader

(52:05):
or a follower, or whether you're passive or aggressive. And
in Anthony Richardson's case, number one, the fact that he
was very young, very young for his grade for that matter,
and also some of the resources that he didn't have
in high school. I just think that when he got
to the NFL, there was the expectation that he was

(52:26):
naturally a leader because he'd been a quarterback, But he
hadn't been a quarterback of a lot of games, and
he hadn't necessarily and I don't know that you can
even grow into that. And what we saw, we started
hearing the rumblings of just not doing the things inside
the building. You just heard Nate Atkins talking about that.
When you look at the other franchises that Nate has covered,

(52:49):
and Matthew Stafford being with the Lions and now with
the Rams, and seeing that and seeing what happens when
you have a quarterback that literally always has the book
in his hand, you know, the playbook in his hand
going into the film rooms, the first one in there,
just has a natural leadership about him and a lot

(53:09):
of that comes from extensive time just naturally a byproduct
of coming in with the pedigree of I played a
big time program. I won a lot of games in college.
I had to have a team on my shoulder pads
at times. And I don't know that Richardson had any
of that. But you wondered if other coaches noticed it.

(53:30):
You wonder if when Shane Steichen was implying that the
Colts needed a change at the quarterback position, those of
us on the outside looked at it and said, but
he's got a huge arm. He look at what he
can do when he runs the football. Look At just

(53:51):
how the touch that at times he can use. But
at the same time to throw off his back foot
to Alec Pierce right in stride from sixty five yards.
Those things that we looked at, we said, that's the guy.
But people that know football will tell you, but there
wasn't a natural leadership there, and that's what Shane Steichen

(54:14):
was trying to tell us. Mike Tomlin is the head
coach of the Pittsburgh Steelers. Pittsburgh this weekend is getting
ready to take on the Minnesota Vikings, and Carson Wentz,
speaking of Colts quarterbacks, Carson Wentz, Carson Wentz filling in
for JJ McCarthy, a young player that is in Minnesota.

(54:34):
And Mike Tomlin was talking about the fact that now
instead of going up against a guy and JJ McCarthy
that they don't know whether or not and yes, he
led his team in college to a national championship. One
would assume there's something about McCarthy, who even sat in
year number one because of injury, So a little bit
different circumstance. But you now have a veteran quarterback that

(54:55):
you are facing in the form of Carson Wentz versus
a younger quarterback that you thought you were going to see.
And a year ago the Steelers played the Colts and
they knew that there were two quarterbacks for the Colts.
There was Anthony Richardson, the young player that was still
learning the position, and Joe Flacco and Mike Tomlin, in

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discussing the preference of almost rather seeing a young player
versus a Carson Wentz coming up on Sunday, made reference
to a year ago and made an interesting comment as
it relates to Anthony Richardson, we.

Speaker 2 (55:34):
Were in a similar situation a year ago.

Speaker 4 (55:36):
We're playing in Indianapolis Man, and I commented to the
guys that you know, keep Richeson upright, don't put Flacco
in the game.

Speaker 2 (55:43):
And you know, Flacco ended up in the game.

Speaker 1 (55:46):
Okay, And the Colts won that game. And it's an
interesting comment that Mike Tomlin was able to see from
the other side, from outside, a guy who's been around
the league for a long time won a Super Bowl.
Mike Tomlin one of the elder statesman coaches and more
respected coaches in the National Football League. And Mike Tomlin

(56:10):
was able to tell his guys, make sure Anthony Richardson
is upright and in the game, because we'd rather see
Anthony Richardson than Joe Flacco. There is not a soul
on the planet that would consider the aging body of
Joe Flacco to be a more intriguing quarterback prospect than
Anthony Richardson. But an opposing coach was able to look

(56:31):
at it and say, I'd rather see Anthony Richardson on
the field than have them bring in Joe Flacco. Now,
the one thing about this that doesn't necessarily hold water
is this, in that game a year ago, which was
won by the Colts, Anthony Richardson led the Colts right
out of the gate on an eight play seventy yard

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drive right down the field, and then on the second
drive after they were up seven to nothing, Indianapolis went
up fourteen on a drive that largely was responsible by
anthe or held and driven by Anthony Richardson. He got
hurt then and Flacco came in. But Richardson at the
time that he left the game had carried the ball

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three times for twenty four yards and he was I
believe three of four through the air. Flacco comes in,
goes sixteen of twenty six, did throw for a pair
of touchdowns and a rating of one O five point nine,
but Richardson was on his way to one of his
better performances. And even with that, Mike Tomlin was saying,

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flaccos that came in and that's why they won that game.
That is a coach, even though statistically speaking, in that
game it doesn't really hold water. What that means is
an opposing coach and looking at film and in studying
that team, could see that Indianapolis was most vulnerable when

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Anthony Richardson was on the field, and that to me
is an indictment not on Richardson, as a person, but
on his inability to consistently lead and carry his team.
And what Daniel Jones has done is he has come
in here and he's not an overly excitable guy. I

(58:18):
don't know a whole lot about Daniel Jones. I don't
think a lot of people in this town know a
whole lot about Daniel Jones. Do we know what he
likes to do for fun? Do we know what kind
of food? I mean, this is like almost robotic. But
he has come in and I don't think instantaneously won
over his locker room. I think there are a lot
of people in the Colts locker room that really liked

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Anthony Richardson as the quarterback and rallied behind Anthony Richardson.
And even when Richardson got benched a year ago, there
seemed to be like this. And then you started having
players say like, we have no direction, we don't know
what's going on. It seemed like the rally behind Anthony
Richardson was actually indicative of an immature locker room that

(59:02):
was dangerously falling behind somebody that wasn't naturally leading them.
And Shane Steiken, who is thought of as a quarterback
whispering coach and a guy that can bring the best
out of quarterbacks. I think Shane Steiken recognized and realized

(59:24):
that Anthony Richardson did not have the maturity and so
and didn't have necessarily the understanding of all that goes
into it, and he was worried that he was leading
other guys down the wrong garden path. And so therefore
Daniel Jones, in a very at the time questioned an
unpopular decision, was named the Starter. And I think there

(59:45):
were a lot of people that thought, holy cow, they
went with Daniel Jones just because like they're going with
the same vanilla veteran option. And in reality, what you
are seeing now is that Daniel Jones, Shane Stiken, his
best attribute at as a coach to this point in
Indianapolis is not his schemes, is not his vision, but

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his understanding and his recognition of the fact that we
need somebody that just is going to come in block
out the noise, but not create noise, and do his job,
and so far Daniel Jones has done it masterfully. The
other thing, Eddie, that Daniel Jones has done really, really well,
and the Colts have done really well, and it's going

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to keep them in games for a long time. And
I don't know how things are going to go on
Sunday in Los Angeles. But if what we have seen
in three games does not a season make, it doesn't
even a pattern make. But if they are able to
maintain what they've done through three games, they play smart
football and they take care of the football. They are
not turning the ball over, they are not putting the

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other teams in advantageous situations by giving them the ball,
in flipping field possession and et cetera. They are taking
care of the football. They are controlling and tempo of
the game, and it's taken on field play. But I
believe now they also have completely fallen in line behind

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their leader and Daniel Jones, who was simply leading by example.

Speaker 2 (01:01:12):
Yeah, it's what it's what he's doing, Jake. And you
know there were droppings of this and training camp, and
when the news was announced you started hearing guys, and
I think the one that stood out to me the most,
and I know you can probably take it with a
green of salt, was Ady Mitchell's comments about, Hey, what
stands out or what have you liked from Daniel Jones?
And he just said, the command that he has in Huddled,

(01:01:33):
the way that he prepares, the way he communicates with
guys that you need to be here, I need you here,
this is what you need to do here. Like the
way that he was going about his business was was
very different because we hadn't heard any of those.

Speaker 1 (01:01:46):
Things correct and getting like like the you know, the
big thing about Anthony Richardson, right, And again, none of
this is meant to like sit here and say, gosh,
what a loser, what a more None of that. I
think part of it is just that natural role you know, age,
like an experience, immaturity, just naivete.

Speaker 2 (01:02:06):
Right.

Speaker 1 (01:02:06):
But having said all of that, I think that Jones
was a longer acclamation period with his teammates because and
I get that guys are different in the locker room
and in the building than what we see. I get that, right.
I mean it's just like it's no different than in
this building. I mean there are people that in any way,

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in any place of work, right, I mean your your coworkers,
your colleagues, whatever else, you just you know them differently
than somebody who just like walks past and looks in
the window all the time. Having said all of that
Jones to me, I think he does not strike me
from the outside as a guy that is constantly going
around and the like in your face leader, but rather

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just a guy that has gone around, made it a
point to get to know and introduce himself to each
respective teammate, regardless of what position they play or how
much interaction he would have with them on the regular
between eight and five. But I think that just to
your point, Eddie, the way he's gone about it, it
has taken time. But I think now the rest of

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the locker rooms like, that's our guy. Yeah, it's got
a text Jaco. Twenty sixth female listener is listening. Yeah,
it's not my mom. She's a listener too with your mom.
Who's number one?

Speaker 2 (01:03:24):
Right, that's correct?

Speaker 1 (01:03:26):
And what ad female listener number twenty six have to say?

Speaker 2 (01:03:29):
That's all she said.

Speaker 1 (01:03:31):
You're just getting random, random messages from female listener. Do
you know, said female listener?

Speaker 2 (01:03:36):
Yes, I do.

Speaker 1 (01:03:37):
Okay, I live with said female listener. Oh okay, So,
and she's she's telling you that she's taken her between
tests Jake, and she passed. Okay, I'm proud of her.
Here's the thing. I just got a text from from

(01:03:57):
you know Meghan, but she's already a previous noted female listeners.

Speaker 2 (01:04:02):
So we're still stuck on twenty six. Say Megan, the
one that you know, we're on like twenty eight. Now
we've got twenty seven female listeners or no, we have
twenty eight. We're looking for twenty nine. That's what it is.
We're stuck on twenty eight.

Speaker 1 (01:04:13):
I forget, We're stuck on Jonathan Taylor. Yeah, and we're
trying to get to know twenty nine was Juju brent
Because the other day I was in the grocery store
and I saw a guy in the twenty nine jersey
and my first thought, this is how you know you're old.
I was like, Okay, Dickerson, Joseph and Dye or Jason Belzer,
I think they were all twenty nine. And then I
turned the corner and it was a Juju Brenz jersey,
and I like, Juju Brnce, I do did you go

(01:04:34):
up to the guy and ask him?

Speaker 2 (01:04:35):
You know what? I wondered if he was related to
Juju Brentz.

Speaker 1 (01:04:38):
It's kind of like my buddy that I worked with
when I worked at the cigar store that literally saved
up his money for like two and a half months
and got a custom made Arnold Mickens Colt's jersey and
then literally the day that it finally arrived and he
put it on, Mickens got released. Mikaia Blake, great, are
currently where's number twenty nine? That's not a bad one, right, No, wait,

(01:05:00):
you referenced your mom earlier, and I'm just concerned.

Speaker 2 (01:05:02):
We haven't gotten the leaves PSA.

Speaker 1 (01:05:06):
Leaves haven't started falling yet. Leaves haven't started falling yet,
per se. But listen, it's a matter of time and
it's inevitable, but typically it's once the leaves start turning.
Because my mom says, you know, you can get engrossed
by looking at the leaves, but then keep in mind
that the leaves falling and the water, that's a dangerous combination.

(01:05:26):
Toxic mixture. Toxic mixture. Yes, hey, Jake, I'd like to
go to see Philadelphia and Tampa.

Speaker 2 (01:05:32):
Yeah, that was runner up for me. Not a bad game.
We still have tickets to give away. It's some point
during the show, Jake, keep that in mind as well.

Speaker 1 (01:05:39):
Not for Philadelphia and Tampa. No, for MGK, they should
definitely win their division at Baker Mayfield is just enough
of a pain to beat anyone on any given day.

Speaker 2 (01:05:49):
That's your stick. I think pain.

Speaker 1 (01:05:53):
Oh, I think Baker Mayfield is. I think he's what
the kids say, a dog.

Speaker 2 (01:05:58):
He is.

Speaker 1 (01:05:59):
But here's the thing of Okay, Baker Mayfield is the
Kurt Signetti of quarterbacks.

Speaker 2 (01:06:05):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:06:06):
He has like this aura and this bravada of cockiness
about him that you're like, dude, really, but yet he
doesn't go away and you know what I mean, and
so you I mean he is very sure of himself.
Is Baker Mayfield confident? Yes, which leads to this other question. Okay,
before we get to because there is news to talk

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about with Indiana football.

Speaker 2 (01:06:30):
Todd Meyer is standing outside the glass with our door
with a belt over his shoulder. He wins something like,
ww Ea style. They are bringing in a belt right now.
There's a whole slew of them. Did Eddie win an award?

Speaker 5 (01:06:45):
Eddie just won the radio one September Mic Drop Award
for not only producing your show, producing the Fever broadcast,
hosting pre and post game for the Fever.

Speaker 1 (01:06:56):
Doing everything any of us asks. I ask him about
eight extra things every day.

Speaker 5 (01:07:01):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:07:01):
The only problem man just gets it done. Here's the
only problem with that. And I'm not trying to take
away from his thunder, but that is a beautiful, huge,
like a WWE level bill. But Eddie, I'm not certain
that that thing actually that's like a thirty two inch waist.
That's the only problem with the belt here.

Speaker 2 (01:07:15):
Can you put that on? Can you try that on?
Can we see? Congratulations?

Speaker 1 (01:07:21):
An you got to hold up the belt.

Speaker 2 (01:07:25):
I am holding it up. They can't see on the camera.
Put it on.

Speaker 1 (01:07:27):
I want to see the.

Speaker 5 (01:07:29):
Entire staff, all of our stations, everything, like fourteen stations, right,
maybe fifteen by the end of the show.

Speaker 2 (01:07:36):
Who knows, so job.

Speaker 1 (01:07:37):
Eddie is walking around congratulates to Eddie. This is perfect
for this is perfect for your birthday.

Speaker 2 (01:07:43):
Right, hold on?

Speaker 1 (01:07:45):
You got to hold it up so people can see it.

Speaker 2 (01:07:47):
Eddie.

Speaker 1 (01:07:47):
You flash that so fast at the camera, right, work
see that. It's that attitude that won Eddie the belt
in the first place. Right, can you can you put
the belt on? He's still doing his job, listen to
that was the bosses and I even had a question
about myself, but I'm not going to do it now
because you're the big winner. What was the name of

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the Award. You won the Mic Drop Award. Well, don't
drop the mic.

Speaker 2 (01:08:12):
You know it's weird. I thought it would have been
a mic this big belt.

Speaker 1 (01:08:16):
That's fair, Mike, not speaking of Mike's We're gonna one's
going to join next, right, Mike Nysalik, that's right. That
would be from the Bloomington Herald Times telephone. It's actually
Bloomton Harild Times. Mike joins us to talk AYU football next.
I mentioned this earlier when it comes to Indiana football,
and this is a real credit to where Indiana is.

(01:08:40):
It almost feels like, you know, for years Iowa, I
always thought of Iowa and Michigan State, those two programs
is kind of benchmarks for Indiana and for that matter,
Purdue as well in terms of the Big Ten of
if you can get to the point where you're that
level of program, then.

Speaker 2 (01:08:59):
You know you're doing pretty well.

Speaker 1 (01:09:02):
Mike Niasilik joins us now on the program from Bloomington
and the Herald Times. Mike, I'll begin with this. I
guess it says something about Indiana and maybe I'm overstating this,
but I almost feel like, oddly enough at Iowa is
a potential trap game for Indiana because the way that

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they took care of business against Illinois and the electricity
of that, then your eye starts looking towards the matchups,
say with Oregon, and you almost forget that they've got
to go on the road in a place that's a
pretty darn tough place to play. Now, I'm not saying
the players feel that way, but is there any truth
to the fact that, like, maybe we even overlook Iowa.

Speaker 6 (01:09:44):
No, I don't think so, because I mean, there is
a buy in between, so it's not like an immediate
sort of right in the Aftermathew going one to the other.
And I also think that, you know, the difference is
the rogue part of it. Like, I mean, this was
a team that last time they played a big road
road game in the Big Ten, it was a disaster.
I mean, the other team was reading their silent account

(01:10:06):
tee and off on them. And I think the guys
that are coming back especially have something to prove there,
So I think they'll be plenty motivated, you know, for
this one. And and you know, it's important to when
you've got a series of big road games this year,
to get the first one because if they only get
harder from here.

Speaker 1 (01:10:27):
Okay, let's talk about, you know, defensively one of their
leaders and Lewis Moore, who you know, this is a
guy that has played extremely well for them. Obviously is
a veteran player, and he just won. And my terminology,
I hope I'm saying this correctly. But he got a
court ruling in his favor against the NCAA. And then
I'll let you piece in Mike where I'm perhaps incorrect

(01:10:48):
in this the number of years that he had played
in junior college. The NCAA was saying that that should
impact his eligibility. He obviously challenged that, and they ruled
in his favor. So therefore his eligibility is maintained. A
correct me if my terminology is wrong, And then b

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why is this significant above and beyond just this case
with Indiana.

Speaker 6 (01:11:15):
Well, I mean, he essentially had run out of eligibility
because he played multiple years at juco. He was at
Jucal College actually three years because he redshirted, so this
was actually a seventh year in college. This all ties
to the Diego Pablo case, the Vanderbilt quarterback who was
then initial sort of player that sued the NCAAA and
won an injunction and then they the NCAA issued a

(01:11:38):
waiver for kids in junior college, but essentially a lowis
moore to qualify because he had those an extra year
and so he was sort of out, his clock had
run out. He applied for a waiver and get and
so he had to go through the courts to sort
of win an injunction. Basically, he'll have a trial because
he's still suing the NCAA, but he wanted an jump

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that prevents them from enforcing the rule until that trial,
which is in January. So he needed that to stay
eligible for this season. So now he's good. There's no
there's no more questions about whether he'll be eligible down
the line. He's fine. So you know, he'll he'll be
through here through the end of the season.

Speaker 3 (01:12:17):
You know.

Speaker 6 (01:12:18):
It's it's just part of kind of what's going on
in college football with these cases. I don't necessarily know
that this is this sort of sets any precedents. The
NCAA is probably one more cases than it's actually lost
in court recently in terms of these cases. So more obviously,
his attorneys did a nice job, you know, fighting for
him and getting this done. It's it's it's hugely important,

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and I don't want to play more's impact because I
think he's been good, not necessarily great, especially when you
listen to Kurtzig Denny kind of talk about how the
problems the Safeties have had, you know, with the exception
of the Neana State game, we sort of miscommunications, misalignments.
The problem was is that they don't really have any
depth Bryson bond out for the season, Buyer and Baldwin

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that really promising freshmen they had high hopes for. There's
no timeline for his return. Originally he was day to
day kind of before the opener, and now four weeks later,
they haven't sort of updated his status. So when you
kind of looked at like who was up next, it
was another freshman that hasn't played and a walk on.
So I mean they really needed him there to sort

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of maintain continuity. And I'm not downplaying his individual contributions
because I think he's done a nice job, but man,
if they had lost him, going into Kennick with a
player that's that's played, you know a handful of snaps
in his career would not have been ideal, especially when
you've been struggling with communication there to begin with.

Speaker 1 (01:13:39):
So with this case, do you believe Mike and I
realized neither one of us here are attorneys. But does
this I'll use the term floodgates for lack of a
better does it set a precedent now where other players
won't even have to necessarily file a suit because they
will simply say this has already been ruled upon and
so therefore what was ruled for more will help, you know,

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Smith at.

Speaker 6 (01:14:03):
Texas A and m No, no, because I mean if
that was the case and all these other cases would
have there's precedent. No, And the NCAA has sort of
like an unofficial blanket policy. Their attorney talked about it.
Actually in courts, they're going to fight every case no
matter what, the same that that fault, that that any
player that's been denied a waiver, there's a couple left.
I mean at this point, now we're in the season,

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I mean, like a lot of these kids, I mean,
maybe it'll probably haven't there'll probably another fluggate of suits
with basketball player basketball players that have lost waivers. Because
for football now you're obviously i mean you're five weeks
into the season. So I think there's a kid from
Wisconsin's sort of waiting for the courts rule on injunction.
A lot of these kids, these cases have come down,
and the NCAA is just kind of fighting all of

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them to sort of i mean be neutral sense essentially,
like they're not treating any case differently. They're saying anytime
we deny waiver, we are fighting it and saying that
those kids should not be eligible. So there's those sort
of press you know, the players could use this as
as as an argument core that, look, these these cases

(01:15:08):
were won. This is what these judges said. But there's
no sort of overall precedent that doesn't do that, you know,
because there's been cases that have players have won that
you know did not necessarily directly help more in the
case because I mean, he had to go to court
and fight for his eligibility.

Speaker 2 (01:15:24):
Mike.

Speaker 1 (01:15:24):
Was that performance that you saw against Illinois the finest
hour in Kurt Signetti's time in Indiana.

Speaker 6 (01:15:33):
That's an interesting question. I mean, the Nebraska following ranks
up there. I mean, I still think the Michigan States
came was impressive just because they actually faced the adversity,
were on the road and then just lost forty seven
straight points. I mean there's a couple of them, right,
I mean, you got to you gotta think, uh. And
I think what's interesting is that Michigan game kind of

(01:15:53):
gets overlooked, like, I mean, that was a really tough game,
and that was a huge atmosphere, and like the playoff
doesn't happen if they kind of fumble in that second half,
even though it gets a really I think defensive had
a ton of NFL talent, but it's up there. I mean,
we'll see kind of you know, it's hard to know, right,
Like if Illinois loses five games, people are going to
really discount that performance, you know what I'm saying, Yeah

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and so and so in the moment, yeah, I mean
it felt pretty big, but we'll see, because Illinois did
not look like a team that I had of stuff together.

Speaker 2 (01:16:24):
But it just seemed like.

Speaker 1 (01:16:27):
Fascinating to me about it. And I don't disagree with
you from the Illinois standpoint of things, right, but at
the same time, it just looked with Indiana, it was like, man,
I don't know how you find a weakness in that.
And I'm not sitting here saying that, you know, my gosh,
they are you know, instantly the best team in that
But when you look at it and and that game

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and the way that they're able to just turn up
the wick and just go. And if there was an area,
if I will call you right now and said, look,
we got to find a weakness of Indiana to what
your answer would be, what.

Speaker 6 (01:17:02):
I mean it would be that secondary I mean that
the safety's the down the millfield. I mean that would
be the answer. I think it would be Churtz Signety's answer.
He was kind of he said that, you know, five
mistakes and the only reason they didn't hurt him was
because they were getting so much pressure on the quarterback.
Iowa has a better offensive line so that they might
be able to sort of take advantage of those things.
But it's not like a huge thing. I mean to
your point, like, I mean, if they can score with

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anybody and drop sixty on a dime, I mean, what
is you know, you've got some room for air. So
I mean like this team is operating at a high level,
no doubt, and it's impressive. And I think the sort
of common thread from last year is like, man, this
team knows how to play with the lead, right, like
when they sense weakness, like in a second half. I mean,

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I think i'd added it up yesterday. I think they're
outscoring teams like one hundred and eleven to ten in
the second half and they've only allowed one touchdown. So
I mean, like, but that's been all of Churtzygunny's tenure really,
that this team once they sent something, you know, once
they go into halftime and have a lead, they're not
giving it up. And so I think that it's it's

(01:18:07):
just a really impressive sort of set this team has
had and focus that you know, you just kind of
see it and Kris and Day bridges it every week
and it's worked.

Speaker 1 (01:18:16):
You know, Mike, there are kind of three styles of coach. Okay,
I mean there's more, but I'm going to speak generically here. Okay,
You've got the Tony Dungee example, where like guys that
played for Tony Dungee were like, man, he was just
such a botherly figure that I gave my best because
I didn't want to disappoint him.

Speaker 2 (01:18:34):
I didn't want to let him down.

Speaker 1 (01:18:35):
You've got the you know, the Bob Knight style, right,
which was like, man, I was just scared to death
of this guy and he was constantly on me and
pushing me and et cetera. And then you've got the
guy that is doesn't necessarily say a lot, but carries
with him this level of confidence that just exudes over
to the team where they look at him and they go,

(01:18:58):
we can win any game because this guy bel leaves
in us. Signetti, seemingly from the outside is number three,
but you're around it and you talk to guys and
you see it a little bit more intimately than do
I or the listeners. Which best describes or who exactly
is Signetti?

Speaker 6 (01:19:15):
Well, I mean the obvious example is Nick Saban, you know,
the history and and and being sort of I think
with Signetti it's more being just a football savant, right
like that He's always watching film. He it's a great
evaluator of talent, a great evaluator of scheme, can break
things down, and I think you see him being able

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to you know, hear opposing coaches talk about how they
exploit mistakes that they find and and you know there's
there's such a well coached kind of group in all
three phases, and so that's kind of where I would
tend to. You know, it's not you don't you don't
hear players and this is not to say they want
to win for him, but you don't hear that kind

(01:19:59):
of Tony Dungee kind of talk where oh man, we're
all invested in for him. He's more just like we
have it's business like in a sin. It's like we
have a focus and we have things to do, and
here's what we're going to accomplish. It's not like we're
going to win one for him. It's like we're going
to win because that's what we have to do and
that's what we're in the business of doing. And so
that's sort of what I view it is. Maybe you know,

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Nick Saban sort of Bill Parcels, you kind of trace
it in that tree on down where it's like football, football, football, football,
and we're going to win, you know, like that's what
it is.

Speaker 2 (01:20:32):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:20:32):
Lastly, Mike, when you look at this matchup with Iowa
and in talking to Indiana over the course of the week,
the areas for Iowa that are of concern that Indiana
is particularly focused on stopping or you know, simply not
or taking advantage of perhaps even where they feel Iowa
is susceptible. What's the overall read there well a.

Speaker 6 (01:20:52):
Couple of things. I think the noise obviously still matters
because like I said, I mentioned that Ohio State game,
what the offensive line does to communicate they want to
a silent count in that game, They're not going to
do that because that one so poorly and and Hot
State was reading it. So like how they communicate? What's
that operation look like? Because you know that offensive line
has been really clean. I think special teams will be huge.

(01:21:13):
I mean Iowa is just you know, fantastic. They don't
make mistakes. They've had a pumper turn and kick return
touchdowns this year game against Rudger open with the Hunter
yard return. They have a really really good returner and
so I think you have to you know, limit him
and I think that'll that'll be really important. And then
you win the battle in the trenches. Again, I mentioned
the offensive line and the communication, but I mean they

(01:21:34):
domted up front of both sides of the ball against Illinois.
You're going to see upgrades Iowa a better offensive line,
you know, stout on the on the defensive front. Can
you win both of those areas? I think I think
those kind of are the the sort of the three
keys for me.

Speaker 2 (01:21:48):
You know one other thing.

Speaker 1 (01:21:49):
Actually, I should have asked you off the top, is
he going to have a Heisman winner?

Speaker 6 (01:21:56):
I mean, you know those things are funny, right, Like
he's the favorite, but I mean, or they play Oregon
in three weeks and then they play Penn State after that,
so I mean, like we'll talk favorites after those games, right,
Like if he does, We've.

Speaker 1 (01:22:09):
Had a lot of favorites that by the end of
the year, You're like, what happened to that?

Speaker 6 (01:22:12):
Yeah, I mean, like and we all knew, Like I mean, like, look,
I had no doubt Bernana Mendoza was going to put
up huge numbers against the Indianita States that would look
obviously way, way way higher numbers, but like his numbers
are inflated from that conference schedule. So like, I mean, yes,
he's a he's a I don't think it's not He's
not like a he's a legitimate candidate now. But I

(01:22:34):
think he's got a lot, a lot of heavy lifting
to do with like their toughest games still on the schedule,
and like he could easily win it. If he wins
these like Iowa, Penn State, and Oregon, he could have
it sewed up in November. If you know he takes
care of business, but if he struggles in those road environments,
I think you're going to have a hard time sort of,
you know, labeling him as the is the front runner.

Speaker 1 (01:22:55):
Mike Nisilic is the Indiana University athletic beat writer for
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Speaker 2 (01:23:13):
Mike appreciate it as always, man, Eddie Times, Jake, thanks,
Ma'm you know it's it's.

Speaker 1 (01:23:18):
Interesting the I'm going to make a statement here, Eddie,
and then I'm gonna let people tell me if I
sound completely wrong when I say it.

Speaker 2 (01:23:29):
You ready, yep.

Speaker 1 (01:23:33):
I don't know how to delicately say this, as Indiana
is going into Iowa this weekend and I have I
really like Iowa. I like as a matter of fact,
I need to I need to brace myself and prepare
how I'm going to word this as to not have
it come off the wrong way.

Speaker 2 (01:23:50):
So you need to think during the break on how
you're going to do that.

Speaker 5 (01:23:52):
I do.

Speaker 4 (01:23:55):
So.

Speaker 2 (01:23:56):
I really when.

Speaker 1 (01:23:59):
When I was in high school. I had the penance
of every Big Ten team on my wall, and actually,
I think I might have been in college. Now, this
isn't the wall that had all the signatures on it, right, No,
that's the that's in the that was in the closet, like, ah, yeah,
it's secret place, that's right. The Chris Street was a

(01:24:22):
basketball player at Iowa that was tragically fatally injured in
a car accident. I think I was in college at
that time, and I wrote a letter to Iowa just
saying that as an Indiana fan, like a letter of
condolence basically, and they sent back a really nice thing
to me. And as a result of that, I've always
really liked the Iowa athletic program. I love I think

(01:24:45):
Iowa as a state is beautiful. I think it's very underrated.
I love Made Right Sandwiches, and I really really respect
Kirk Parents. I think he's a just a really good
football coach. And so all of that said, I have
like almost like a kinship with the state of Iowa.

(01:25:05):
So when I say this, I think it's going to
come off the wrong way, but I've had people that
since Indiana is playing at Iowa this weekend, I understand,
and I know that now it has become a great
tradition of the fact that the Iowa Children's Hospital overlooks
Kinneck Stadium right there, And Eddie, you're familiar with the tradition, right,
I believe it is it the fourth quarter or the

(01:25:27):
second quarter, one of the quarters where the crowd turns
around and waves to the kids that are in the hospital.
But I've had people that have gone to the games
that have said that it's actually like kind of uncomfortable.
Because I certainly understand acknowledging and recognizing and giving encouragement
to the kids. I'm for all of that, but it

(01:25:49):
goes on like really long, and then I have this
level of and I'm hesitant to say it, but I'm
just curious if I'm the only person that's ever thought this.
After a while, it almost feels like it's unfair to
the kids themselves, because you know how badly they'd like
to be there in the crowd. Does that make sense
at all what I'm saying, Like I can see it

(01:26:12):
when I watch it. After a while, I'm like, I
understand and I and I know that it's all rooted
in the heart being in the right place I get that,
but they do it for like multiple minutes at a time,
and after a while it almost feels like a like, hey,
it's great, the water's great in here.

Speaker 2 (01:26:31):
I don't know, like it just.

Speaker 1 (01:26:34):
It's rooted in the right place. And the people of
Iowa are great people.

Speaker 2 (01:26:37):
So I get that. I just when I see it.

Speaker 1 (01:26:40):
Sometimes I have wondered to myself, am I the only
one that like just gets a little bit uncomfortable with
it after a while. I I know that that's like,
probably people think I'm like the worst human being? And
well they might already think that actually, but for me
saying that, But there are certain things that I've under
to myself, am I the only one that like notices

(01:27:04):
these things? Am I the only one sometimes that thinks
certain things? You know, kind of like what we were
talking about earlier with the quarterbacking situation in the Mike
Tomlin comments, you know, there are certain things that you know,
Shane Steichen in some areas when it comes to analyzing
the quarterback a year ago, may have thought to himself,
am I the only one that's recognizing this? Am I
the only one that's noticing where there are issues? And

(01:27:26):
clearly the answer to that was no, because Chris Ballard
not only brought him in a veteran quarterback, Chris Ballard
did so under the complete clearance of you are able
to make this decision, and thus he went with Daniel Jones.
And Daniel Jones will be trying to maintain a hot
start in Los Angeles this weekend. Matt Taylor, Voice of

(01:27:46):
the Colts, will join us to talk about that in
thirty Hi there, how are you? It is two o'clock
on a Thursday in Indianapolis. For that matter, it's two
o'clock on a Thursday everywhere in the Eastern time zone.

Speaker 2 (01:27:58):
Jake, I'm well, my name's Eddie Garrison. How are you?

Speaker 1 (01:28:01):
I was just about to say, my name is Jake Querry.
The other voice you hear in this program is Eddie Garrison,
who is the Mic Drop Award winner at Thanks the
Radio one monthly meeting.

Speaker 2 (01:28:11):
How does it make you feel? Are you the first winner? Second?

Speaker 1 (01:28:15):
Who was the first winner? I can't remember? Well, I
mean you took the belt from him.

Speaker 2 (01:28:20):
You don't know who it is? Well, Todd Meyer brought
it in here. I don't know who had it previous.

Speaker 1 (01:28:25):
Okay, Well, that shows the magnitude of your accomplishment. Right now,
you're just trying to be smirch me over here because
you're just jealous, Jake, that I'm not. I a definitely
are jealous. How do you know I'm not one that
nominated you. That's a good question.

Speaker 2 (01:28:40):
I don't know that. Okay, Well then I don't know
if I can trust you to read your email or apply.

Speaker 1 (01:28:46):
That's probably a good point, just out of curiosity. Does
the belt that you won come with any sort of
an ascot or a robe? No, it came with a
nice gift. I thought maybe you'd like to put those on,
and along with that, I'm going to have you put
that fact in and smoke it because there might be
you know what I mean, for what that's worth? Do
you happen to have the breaking news sounder for me?

(01:29:12):
It has come to my attention that perhaps we were
sitting on what number when it comes to our female listeners, Eddie.

Speaker 2 (01:29:17):
We were on Jonathan Taylor.

Speaker 1 (01:29:18):
So we are now we have upgraded from Jonathan Taylor
to Jason Belzer slash, Mike Adams slash Juju Brent's slash,
Joseph and Dye slash Eric Dickerson slash.

Speaker 2 (01:29:29):
Makai blackman, Makai blackman.

Speaker 1 (01:29:31):
I am informed, say hello please, and introduce into the
room Jackie, who is female listener number twenty nine.

Speaker 2 (01:29:39):
It has come to my attention. So there we go.
Thank you Jackie for listening and being part of the program.

Speaker 1 (01:29:45):
Jackie, clearly her radio is broken, but we're happy and
we will take what we can do.

Speaker 4 (01:29:48):
We know what was the.

Speaker 2 (01:29:49):
Fellow's name that got Mary last week? Do you remember Jake?
Was it Mike? Was it Mike or Aaron?

Speaker 1 (01:29:57):
Didn't he get married on a Friday?

Speaker 2 (01:30:00):
Yeah? He texted us about is that a thing?

Speaker 7 (01:30:02):
Now?

Speaker 1 (01:30:02):
Don't people do that now because it's like it's easier
to get venues?

Speaker 2 (01:30:06):
Yeah, I've got one tomorrow. You're getting married tomorrow.

Speaker 3 (01:30:09):
I am not.

Speaker 2 (01:30:10):
I am not getting married. I have to attend a
wedding tomorrow. Where's the wedding. It's in Indiana. I don't
want people swarm. Any came in the wedding. No, I
didn't know if you'd be wearing your little belt. Well, jakey,
I may wear it anyway that they gave you.

Speaker 1 (01:30:29):
You wear that around all over. There's may be a
bunch of radio people there. Oh really, Yeah, so is
it somebody I know, No, somebody went to college with
that works in radio. Yes, Okay, Colts and Rams coming
up Sunday out at Sofi Stadium in Los Angeles. Matt
Taylor will join us to talk about exactly that coming
up in just a little bit. We will also get

(01:30:49):
into that from a health standpoint, but before we do so,
we should also mention that the fever, my understanding, is
the fever coming back from Las Vegas. I don't think
it was like a substantial but they had a little
bit of a flight delay before they got back to Indianapolis.
But now it is tomorrow night, game at number three
and their battle with Las Vegas in the WNBA playoffs. Eddie,

(01:31:12):
reality is game number two was a game and this
was my i'll say concern for lack of a better phrase,
but because I'm not saying that I was sitting there
thinking like, oh my gosh, this guy's falling.

Speaker 2 (01:31:25):
But we may mention of this.

Speaker 1 (01:31:26):
Oftentimes, you see if a team is going to steal
a game one, and in particular if it is a
series going in that you feel like there is a
clear favorite. And I think most would say that Las
Vegas is the clear favorite in that series. But that's
to sell short what the Fever have been able to
do and the determination that they have shown. But with
all that said, my worry was that by and they won.

(01:31:50):
Look it's not like they stole game one. I mean
they controlled Game one in Indiana, but that was a
pretty resounding responds from Las Vegas. And now I'm curious.
I think Stephanie White could join us twenty four hours
from now two o'clock show on tomorrow's show tentatively scheduled,
but I'm curious to see. Are we at the time

(01:32:11):
of year where you necessarily make adjustments or have all
adjustments really kind of been thrown out there and it's
just a matter of this is what we do, this
is what you do, and we are going to again
push it in and see how it falls.

Speaker 2 (01:32:27):
You know, it's like in the NBA, Jake, everything's game
to game. You make changes based off of what you've seen,
and you have to keep in mind of what both
teams did in terms of an execution standpoint, and game
number one just kind of have to blend it all
together to figure out what they're going to try to
do in game number three and make sure that what
Vegas did in game number two, and primarily it was

(01:32:48):
Melissa Smith that was the issue for Indiana. Asia Wilson
got going a little bit, but you talked about this
with do we have somebody on it was it Scott
Agnes we were talking to. You talked to him out,
you know, trying to limit the other players around Asia
Wilson because there was the anticipation and expectation that with

(01:33:08):
how poorly she played in game one, they were gonna
go out of their way to make sure she went
off in game number two. Now she finished with what
twenty eight and eight or twenty five nine boards and
five steals. She was very controlling.

Speaker 1 (01:33:21):
Yes, yes, I mean, look, she's obviously a phenomenal talent, right,
but they a lot.

Speaker 2 (01:33:27):
About like seventeen points to Melissa Smith, who played ten
minutes in the first game.

Speaker 1 (01:33:32):
Yeah, that's in and again you know Lexi Hole, I mean,
was questionable from a health standpoint going into that into
game two. You gotta wonder what you get there out
of game three. Kelsey Mitchell, I think they probably do
need the Kelsey Mitchell, the thirty plus or the twenty
five plus, you know, everything going offensively through Kelsey Mitchell

(01:33:54):
if they're gonna win this series. But you know, we'll
see what happens coming up on Friday night. As for
the Colts and the Rams, we talked about this earlier
and I wanted to get back into it. Matthew Stafford is,
would you say right now he is still a top

(01:34:14):
ten quarterback? Would you agree with that? I don't know
if i'd say ten, but he's top half of the
league for sure. If you were to rank them right
now quarterbacks in the NFL, We'll do it this way
because when you look at what he is able to do.
And there's a reason I'm bringing this up. Okay, I'm

(01:34:36):
going to name the quarterback. Can you tell me whether
or not you believe that they're in.

Speaker 2 (01:34:39):
The top ten? Okay, okay?

Speaker 1 (01:34:40):
Josh Allen yes, Tua no. I mean some of these
I'm just gonna skip over because they're obviously nos.

Speaker 2 (01:34:47):
Drake May is a no. Justin Fields is a no.

Speaker 1 (01:34:50):
Lamar Jackson yes, Joe Burrow yes, even though I realized
he's out.

Speaker 2 (01:34:57):
Aaron Rodgers no. C J.

Speaker 1 (01:35:00):
Stroud no, Daniel Jones no, Trevor Lawrence no. Obviously not
cam Ward yeh Bo Nicks no. Patrick Mahomes yes, okay,
Herbert Yes, okay, Herbert obviously, Gino Smith you're saying no, no, okay,
Dak Prescott yes, interesting, okay. You know we have no

(01:35:23):
idea about you know, Dart okay, Jalen Hurts yes, Jayden
Daniels yes, Caleb Williams No, here's an interesting one. Jared
Goff yes, Jordan love Fringe but no, okay, yeah, I
think JJ mccarthur, we know there. Michael Pennox, Bryce Young Baker, yes,

(01:35:47):
bakery put up there, okay, uh, Kyler Murray no, perty No.
Sam Darnold no, okay. So right, there's one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten,
So bang look at that.

Speaker 2 (01:36:03):
Yeah, okay.

Speaker 1 (01:36:04):
Now, Stafford is a guy with a big arm. And
I don't mean like he's got I mean like literally
he he can throw. He He is a very to me,
Matthew Stafford is a Drew Brees type quarterback. He is
a precise thrower. But at the same time he has capability,

(01:36:28):
even still at an older age, of throwing a pretty
effective long ball. Now, what is interesting about the Rams
are two things. And we talked to Nate Atkins earlier
that conversation will be available in podcasts form. We asked
it you wait till after John Show before listening to it.
But Nate Akins, who used to be with Any Star
and now covers the Rams for the Athletic, and one

(01:36:50):
of the things that we were talking about with him
is the fact that you have two obviously very very
effective wide receivers in Los Angeles for Matt Stafford to
throw too, right, but he only goes to two. He
has thrown so far sixty I believe he has sixty

(01:37:10):
two completions so far through three games. Okay, forty three
of those. Forty three of those are going to one
of two places. Now his main target, without question, Who're
gonna Kola? Which I you know, and I think he
might have been hurt when they came here two years ago.

Speaker 2 (01:37:28):
He was not. He had this game any touchdown in overtime.
That's right, That's right. You said forty three completions to
those two and sixty two in total.

Speaker 1 (01:37:37):
Forty two completions to those two out of sixty three.
That is literally two thirds of the time. Yeah, and
so for the Colts, you know, and then you wonder,
and this is what we talked about with Nate Atkins.
Are those two getting that high a percentage of the

(01:37:57):
receptions because other player you know, Whittington or Xavier Smith
or even his tight ends Tyler Higbee. Are they not
getting themselves open? Or are they schematically saying, look these two,
both of them are averaging both of them are averaging
over ten yards per reception. So if you're able to

(01:38:20):
go there is it. Are they going to those two
out of necessity because nobody else is getting themselves open?
Or are they going out of luxury because why go
to anybody else when we are getting chunk plays out
of these two players?

Speaker 2 (01:38:34):
Luxury for sure, Jake, because I mean they're both arguably
still top even Adams even though he's thirty one years old.
They're both top ten receivers well, right, And so what
I'm saying is, though, and Puk is probably the most
underrated top receiver in the league. I think he's and
he has been from the time that he entered the league.
I mean, he has been a dynamic player from the
get go. But what they are not getting a lot

(01:38:57):
of at this point, and I'm not and I don't
watch enough of the rams to know if this is
the norm and it's an art that we're starting to
see teams use more of again, copy of the cat
league trend setting league. Kansas City has done this well,

(01:39:18):
and that is getting backs or short yardage guys out
of a backfield for completions they're not doing. Stafford's never
really I don't think it had been that kind of
a quarterback. But it does help you to just maintain
a balance within your passing game. The reason I say
all of this is because for the Colts, we have

(01:39:38):
not today at this point. And sometimes it's difficult when
we're on the air because you know we're on the air,
so you don't know what's being said over at West
fifty six during the time that we're on the air
all the time. But there has not been an update
today in terms of, for example, Kennymore correct, let me
look kennymore When you look at that injury and the
fact that it's an achilles, I would be stunned if

(01:40:01):
we see him anytime soon. And then as a result
of that, that means that now you are having to
move around a little bit and rely on the depth
in your defensive backfield. That's an area that I think
Chris Ballard worked really hard in getting depth there. He
update real quick. Jack. Kenny Moore did not practice today

(01:40:23):
with that achilles injury. Alec Pearce did not practice today
as he's in the NFL's can catch protocol. Matt Gonzalvez
did not participate again today. He was spotted in a
boot yesterday I practice and he's dealing with a toe issue.
You know, those toes can be that can hurt, you
know that, right, Yes, Kevin Powman knows all about it.

(01:40:45):
So what we see now.

Speaker 1 (01:40:49):
Is the fact that they're going to have to go
and they already have one guy an Xavier Howard, that
they basically just had to bring in off the beach.
To use that term, right, he might have been They
have another Now if if Kenny Moore is not able
to go, Eddie, they're gonna have to go again and
basically rely on somebody that was not on this roster

(01:41:10):
like three weeks ago.

Speaker 3 (01:41:11):
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:41:11):
It's very fever esque, it kind of is, right, Yeah,
But with that, what's that Mike Hilton is the player Mike.

Speaker 1 (01:41:19):
Hilton who comes and has played in low Anarumo's defense
in Cincinnati, so he has familiarity with the scheme and
the one area that it is my belief that the
one area or the one.

Speaker 2 (01:41:32):
Position in football.

Speaker 1 (01:41:35):
That I'm not saying that it's easy to do, but
relative to other positions, I've always felt like running back
is one, and then defensive back are positions that you
can put a guy in that hasn't had a lot
of time of getting to know the feel of those
around him and has a general idea, especially if he

(01:41:59):
knows the defense what it is that where he needs
to be. And I think that because you're kind of
on an island a lot of times as a defensive back,
you are less reliant on the chemistry that is important
of understanding the guys around you. I think linebacker is
a position that oftentimes it is as much about being

(01:42:21):
a good player as it is understanding everyone that's around
you and their tendencies and their nuances. And it goes
without saying in trenches both of those things are true.
And then in the passing game, receiver and quarterback there's
an element of that as well, So it's hard to
air drop those guys in if there's a position over
the I think if you were to survey NFL general

(01:42:43):
managers or head coaches and say, going into this season,
there's going to be one position group that is going
to be dinged up to the point where you're going
to have to go and bring in guys from outside
the building in the middle of the week. What position

(01:43:03):
would you most want that to be. I'm not saying,
and I'm not creating excuse for the Colts, but I'm saying,
if there's a silver lining here, I think defensive backfield
is one area where that may be the most common
answer that people would give you. Kicker, well, kick her,
punt her right, long snapper, Speaking of which, Matt Gays

(01:43:24):
struggling right, Yes, there are. His struggles continued. Remember when
he came here and it was like this is the greatest,
like Chris Ballard was so like largest kicking contract given
out in franchise in league history. Yeahy correct, And he
didn't make it to the life of that contract and
he is now. As a matter of fact, I gotta
think here, if I had to guess where Matt Gay

(01:43:45):
is kicking, I should know this.

Speaker 2 (01:43:46):
Don't tell me I should know this. He was just
on national television not too long ago. Okay, I should
know this. In fact a week ago today.

Speaker 1 (01:43:56):
My first thought was Arizona. But that's Chase McLoughlin, right, No,
he's in Tampa Bay.

Speaker 2 (01:44:01):
That's right. That's right. So is Matt Gay in Arizona. No, okay,
Matt Prater used to me with Arizona.

Speaker 1 (01:44:07):
I mean it's a kicker, I admittedly, and I know
that I'm showing my ignorance here, but like it is
hard sometimes because they you know, that is the position
that is like one of the Grammaticas are still kicking
somewhere right, the one that would take the great kazoo
and blew out his knee and the celebration once what
You're not familiar with this? No, it was it is
it Martin Grammatica or Bill Grammatica. There's there's two different ones,

(01:44:29):
and one of them. I mean, this has been like
fifteen years ago, probably twenty years ago at this point.
U kicked a field goal I believe for Tampa. It
might have been Martin Grammatica kicked a field goal for Tampa, jumped,
jumped up in celebration and blew his knee out when
he landed, landed awkwardly and then was rolled around grabbing

(01:44:50):
the knee in the air. I don't mean, I don't
mean to laugh at his laugh misfunction, but when you're
a kicker, it's the area that you'd like to have
a little st ability, and he and he didn't even
it's not it's not like he was jumping off like
a twenty foot platform. I mean he he's celebrated by
jumping like four inches in the air and then landed

(01:45:11):
awkwardly and ends up and he I can't remember which
Grammatica it was, but it was Grammatica incorrect. What's as
bill Bill Grammatica?

Speaker 2 (01:45:21):
What year was that?

Speaker 1 (01:45:22):
I'm going to guess like two thousand and two.

Speaker 2 (01:45:25):
I don't know a year.

Speaker 1 (01:45:27):
Can you find did you find the video? I don't
mean to laugh at a guy's misfortune, but but you know,
the kicker in general is usually not seen as the
most brute of subjects. Right, you can't help but laugh.

Speaker 2 (01:45:42):
He was like doing that Christiano Ronaldo type celebration all
those scores before obviously before those times, and he just
goes that. He's rolling around and he's he does like
the n grab and you can tell everybody else is like,
what's going on?

Speaker 1 (01:46:00):
You just kicked a field goal? He's laying there, What
does it say?

Speaker 2 (01:46:05):
What year it was I do not know.

Speaker 1 (01:46:07):
I believe and I have no idea how or why
I know this. One of the Grammaticas kicked at Kansas State, right.

Speaker 4 (01:46:13):
Am?

Speaker 2 (01:46:13):
I correcting that.

Speaker 1 (01:46:15):
Let's look at this story, the fact like this, the
fact that I can go this long under Grammatica and
one of them kicked for the Colts. That's my point
about kicker those December fifteenth, two thousand and one. It's
been that long ago with the Cardinals.

Speaker 2 (01:46:29):
That's not what I did know, was it? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:46:31):
Okay, yeah, hell for that matter, if you're the if
you're the back, then if you were the Cardinals, they
were more celebrating scoring a point. It was on a
forty two yeard field goal in the first quarter. By
the way, people did not like my take on the
Iowa deal. By the way, Uh, Matt Gay, where's he at?

Speaker 4 (01:46:52):
Jake?

Speaker 2 (01:46:52):
Do you want to know the answer? What's that? Mac Gay?
You know? Would you like to know where he's at? Yes,
he is with the commanders. Okay. They had a doink
off between him and Brandon mcmanoth a doink off. That's
the thing that you won, that got you that belt
right here? The mic drop that was that? Okay, No,

(01:47:12):
me knowing you know where Mac Gay has got me
that award being prepared at all times.

Speaker 1 (01:47:19):
Hey, Jake, this on the text at two three nine
ten seventy. This is fair Tom from Noblesville, as a
transplanted Iowan with strong ties to my home state, your
way off base in the Iowa first quarterwave. It's actually
the second quarter, isn't it. I don't know when it is.
I just know they do it. Jalen just says, stop, Jake,
Okay with the grammatica No, I think that was about

(01:47:46):
when I was talking about Iowa. The the grammatica kick.
I'm telling you, you know, like you watch that and.

Speaker 2 (01:48:02):
You feel for the guy.

Speaker 1 (01:48:03):
You do feel for the guy, but it's hard not
to chuckle. Hey Jake, should I you fans be rooting
for Penn State or Oregon this weekend? That the text
line at two three nine ten seventy. That's also a
good question. Where is that game between Penn State and Oregon?
You'd have to look at the remaining schedule. Okay, that
game is in Happy Valley at Beaver Stadium in Indiana plays.

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Where does Indiana play Penn State this year?

Speaker 2 (01:48:31):
They did? They have to go to both places. On
the road. Indiana will be going to Penn State the
week after Penn State faces Ohio State.

Speaker 1 (01:48:40):
Okay, here's the thing. If Penn State and Oregon are
playing at Penn State, then you want, if you're an
Indiana fan, you want Penn State to win.

Speaker 2 (01:48:52):
Do you yes? And let me explain. Okay, okay, because
Oregon we'll have a boy and then they face the
hoo's yours. How did you say that again, Oregon? If
you ever go there and do not say that Oregon.
I mean, I've also been team Oregon at times in

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my life, but that is like the number one thing.
If you say Oregon in the state of Oregon, that's
like people here saying the University of Indiana. It is
nails on a chalkboard to people there. But you want
if that game between Oregon and Penn State is at
Penn State, you want Penn State to win that game.

Speaker 1 (01:49:33):
The reason being if Penn State wins a home game
over Oregon, then that doesn't necessarily diminish the thought of
quality of Oregon because it's at Penn State. So if
Indiana then goes and wins at Oregon, then it really
looks impressive because it's at Oregon, but second, and then

(01:49:54):
they win at Penn State, then it looks doubly impressive
because you see what I'm saying, like Penn State's supposed
to win at all home.

Speaker 2 (01:50:00):
Right. Yeah, but once you rather Oregon win, they improve
their ranking from sixth. No, I'll tell you why. I
don't have to deal with a you know, a max
Oregon team from losing. No, I'll say why. This is
my point.

Speaker 1 (01:50:12):
If Indiana has Oregon and Penn State both on their schedule, okay,
you want both to have maximum thought about each about
each other. You want both of them to have the
You want Oregon to be thought of in the highest
possible regard if you beat them, and you want Penn
State to be thought of in the highest possible regard

(01:50:33):
if you beat them and Oregon. If one of those
two has to to lose that game, it drops Oregon
only slightly if they lose because it's on the assuming
it's a close game, it's on the road at Penn State, right.
Whereas if Penn State loses that game, that's a home
loss that drops them and diminishes them more, and it

(01:50:54):
also devalues it. If Indiana go's in there and also wins.
That's that's my point. So I think if you had
to pick, you would you are hoping for Penn State
to hold serve at home. Hey, Jake, since we're talking
about kickers, whatever happened to the liquored up kicker Mike
vander chat who joined the show about a year ago.

(01:51:15):
That was about a year ago. He was on, right,
He was good, great dude, He was awesome when we
had him on. He is living in Upstate, New York.
He is coaching football, and he talked about when we
had him on, and it was a great conversation, just
kind of his regret on on how a lot of
that went into it and also how the the dust

(01:51:39):
up between he and Peyton Manning was kind of made
more externally than it was internally, Jake. Injuries are not funny,
but the context in which they happen could sometimes make
them laughable. Yeah, I mean exactly right, Like you don't
wish the guy ill will, but like the fact that
he jumped. He literally jumped like four inches off the ground, Yeah,
to celebrate hitting a field goal and then ends up.

Speaker 2 (01:52:02):
Rolling around grabbing onto his knee.

Speaker 1 (01:52:07):
All right, One other one here, Jake, do you actually
have a running list of female listeners or do you
think there are some repeats in there. I'll bet you
only have fifteen. That's it from Ben. That's a really
good point. We do not possible. We do not have
repeat I don't know though, you know how I get
concerned about it.

Speaker 2 (01:52:26):
I know we don't because we'll have our female listeners
will call in and they'll tell us my number female
listener there.

Speaker 1 (01:52:31):
But for example, we do have it. Was it Kathy Denise, Sidney,
Cindy Denise. Yes, but she sounds as one listener. She
didn't count us two. I think we had her changed
names to boost us from nineteen to twenty. She called
in as number nineteen and we had her pause and
then say she was Denise, and then she became twenty.
So there are some duplicates, so that would drop us
now from twenty nine. Probably in the twenty five ring.

(01:52:53):
We didn't duplicate here. We were trying to attract new
female listeners, so that's what we did. We just told
her to change her name.

Speaker 2 (01:53:00):
I think, actually, I think we're fibbing on our number
just a little bit. I don't think we are, Jake.

Speaker 1 (01:53:05):
I mean, it's not a dumb strategy, but I think
it's reality right that they're fifteen is probably fair. I'm
willing to go with fifteen.

Speaker 2 (01:53:12):
That's fair.

Speaker 1 (01:53:14):
Matt Taylor is the voice of the Colts. He will
be on the call at so if I Stadium in
Los Angeles coming up on Sunday, and he joins us next.
Matt Taylor going to join us here just a second,
I got to read this from Jalen, Eddie. I would like,
I'm going to read this from Jalen, and I'm not
discrediting Jalen at all, but I want you, Eddie, to

(01:53:35):
I'm going to hand it you the responsibility of how
you would answer this inquiry. You ready, Oh, you don't
want me to answer it or to read it for you,
Dear Jake. I understand that you love to do your
teasers before breaks to keep people listening, but you got
to understand a lot of the people listening to you
or on a break from work and don't have time
to sit through the eternal commercial breaks to wait for
you to reveal something that you could easily just mention

(01:53:55):
right before the break, just something to consider. And he
thought on that, Eddie, that's unfortunately not how this business
works joining us now in the program. He's the voice
of the Indianapolis Colt said, he is Matt Taylor. Matt,
would you agree with that? He's assessment there?

Speaker 4 (01:54:18):
Man, oh man, I what was a gentleman's name? Jalen, Yeah, Jalen.

Speaker 3 (01:54:23):
Jalen didn't go.

Speaker 4 (01:54:24):
To broadcasting school. I don't think he's got a He
didn't get a minor in broadcast journalism or uh or communication.

Speaker 2 (01:54:32):
You don't. One on one.

Speaker 1 (01:54:33):
I get it, though, I mean I I do understand
where he's coming from.

Speaker 2 (01:54:36):
Believe you me. You know what way he can do,
Matt and Jake, if he's interested, he can always download
the podcast and listen to it that way. What was teased? Indeed?

Speaker 4 (01:54:44):
Correct, pull up the YouTube stream, you know, mark the tape,
you find out where you left off, and hit the
little scroll and you know you're fine.

Speaker 2 (01:54:52):
I'd like to know this, Matt.

Speaker 1 (01:54:54):
Give me the song that comes on the radio that
you're driving and you get to your house and you
go ahead and you sit in the driveway because the
song gate over.

Speaker 4 (01:55:02):
Oh Man, there's a lot of them. I love these
questions from you, man, They're always good. Well, you just
played Tom Petty, So anything by Tom Petty. You know,
like if it's uh listened to her heart, that one's
a good one. I'll tell you what, I'll.

Speaker 3 (01:55:21):
Give you a song.

Speaker 4 (01:55:22):
I say this all the time if people roll their
eyes at me because they know me. But if I
heard if I heard I heard it in a love
song by Marshall Tucker every day for the rest of
my life, I would not get tired of.

Speaker 1 (01:55:35):
That song every time we have you on how's that
that tell?

Speaker 4 (01:55:40):
Yeah? And and I won't back down by Tom Petty
the song that I heard. If I heard it every
single day for the rest of my life, I still
wouldn't get.

Speaker 2 (01:55:47):
Sick of it.

Speaker 4 (01:55:48):
Okay, fah yeah, how about you.

Speaker 2 (01:55:52):
Man? I go in cycles, you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (01:55:54):
I mean, I I think if I had to pick,
and it's such an unoriginal answer because I think it
was listed as like the number one song ever by
Rolling Stone. If I had to pick my favorite song
of all time, it's probably like a Rolling Stone by
Bob Dylan.

Speaker 2 (01:56:11):
I'm not gonna find you, but but I really like
Hello by Oasis.

Speaker 4 (01:56:17):
Okay, I've got to I've got another obscure one now
that I've had time to stew on it. Okay, and
I did this one time. I'm man enough to admit
it because I'm weird, as you know. But one time
I was shopping by myself and a Kroger and this
song came on and I hadn't heard it in like

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four years or something.

Speaker 1 (01:56:38):
And do you normally shops with a group at Kroger?

Speaker 2 (01:56:41):
I mean, is that I.

Speaker 1 (01:56:45):
Is Tuesday your Kroger shopping club day? This was a Wednesday?

Speaker 2 (01:56:50):
Is that this one?

Speaker 4 (01:56:51):
I just had to go by myself.

Speaker 1 (01:56:53):
Everybody failed anyway, so as you were, no.

Speaker 4 (01:56:57):
So like I'm in the serial aisle, you know, I'm
in there to get like two or three things on
my way home from work. One day, I'm in this
serial aisle or whatever, and I hear feeling satisfied by Boston.
I don't know why. It just sort of like hit me,
like I have heard this song in like five years.
I just stopped dead in my tracks and I just
sat in the aisle by myself and listened to the
song until is over. See that's like one of those moments.

Speaker 1 (01:57:19):
Yeah, okay, And to see and Matt, this is why
you and I are and this is going to be
very uncomfortable. I realized This is why we're kind of
spirit animals, because you are observant like myself, you know
what I mean. Like you notice, I think I'm convinced
that ninety eight percent of all people, not only you know,
aren't losers in shop at Kroger alone. But don't don't

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hear that.

Speaker 2 (01:57:41):
You know what I mean? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:57:43):
So yeah, I mean I'm very Yeah, I'm with you.
Like I think I'm very much always sort of cognizant
of my surroundings. I'm a very observant person, and I'm
I observe human nature. I like to think I have
a master's degree in common sense and body language. So like,
if if I'm talking to you right now and you're
not picking up what I'm putting down, We're probably not gonna,

(01:58:05):
you know, right right, We're probably not gonna, you know,
continue this conversation. So like I have the the the
mental capacity to say, all right, moving on. You know,
I can make chit chat with just about everybody. But like,
if you're not jiving on me, no big deal. I'll
just keep keep it going and see what sticks with
somebody else.

Speaker 2 (01:58:23):
You know, we mutually know some people that don't read
the room well, right, Why are you talking about right?

Speaker 4 (01:58:30):
Yeah, that's right, uh Eddie, Okay, he always makes things
incredibly awkward.

Speaker 2 (01:58:34):
Matt.

Speaker 1 (01:58:35):
My first question about this game on Sunday, and it
has nothing to do with what's going to take You
have or have not called a game in so far?
My apologies for not recalling you have right, No, this
will be the first one, okay, And I here's why
I ask. It has I don't know if you've been
to it or been by it, but it has a
massive not unlike you know, Vegas has this now certainly

(01:58:58):
Jerry World does. It has a massive video board that
literally seemingly is like the length of the field. And
I'm curious when you're calling a game depending on it.
And I don't know where the press box is for
this one, but do you ever find yourself actually glued
almost as much to the video board as to the
field itself.

Speaker 4 (01:59:17):
Yeah, So the thing that you're referring to, I read
about it, and I've seen pictures of it. Obviously they
call it, I don't know if they still do, but
when the building first opened they called it the oculus.
This it's like a ring, you know, a circular jumbo
tron in the middle of the field. You know that
hangs over the middle of the field, I should say, so, yeah,

(01:59:39):
our I do know where the press box is and
where the radio booth location is. It's not great. It's
very very high, and it's in the corner, which is
sort of like doubly bad. So yeah, I'll fully admit
that when the ball is on the other side of
the field furthest away from my vantage point, I'll be
looking at every I'll be looking at you know, I'll

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use my eyes, I'll use the binoculars, I'll use the
the oculus.

Speaker 3 (02:00:06):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (02:00:06):
And I'll have a monitor in front of me in
the in the in the radio booths as well. So
between all of those things, that's what you have to
do to make it work. And you know, we've talked
about this before. More and more new newer stadiums are
putting the media and broadcast setups in the corner. Uh.
And they're using the prime locations for vi ip club

(02:00:26):
area and season ticket holders and all those things. And
I get it right, that's those are the people that
pay the bills and sponsors and stuff like that. So
you got to make do you know, I'm over just
you know, crying about it because there's nothing you can do.
It's only gonna get worse. So you know there's bad
You mentioned Dallas. Uh, the Raiders is not terrible. It's high,

(02:00:48):
and I can deal with high. Washington is terrible. Pittsburgh's
not good, Arizona's not good. Uh where else? Minnesota is
in the corner. So you know, I've done enough game
to be in bad locations. Just to make it work,
you have to kind of like pause and you know,
make sure you have the exact line of scrimmage and

(02:01:09):
the exact yard markers because it is a little bit
of a different harsh angle. Sometimes you know, the ten looks.

Speaker 2 (02:01:15):
Away from you, right, you know, if they're going away
from you, it's tough.

Speaker 4 (02:01:19):
So you know you can You could definitely if you're
just listening to me. I think if you're just listening
to a broadcast that's in the corner, you can tell
because they tap dance a little bit on air, giving
you more details until they definitively know where the line
of scrimmage is or the gain of the ball because
you just can't see it very well. But in our case,

(02:01:40):
Layer is on the field, she can talk to me
on the sideline in my headset. So she's helping spot
on the far end of the field and helping identify
new line of scrimmage and stuff like that. So we
make it work. But yeah, there's there's better vantage points
in the NFL, for sure.

Speaker 1 (02:01:55):
But by the way, this studio I'm in right now
is round, so there's no corner. But I tap dance
three hours a day, just so you know, I know,
you know. Well, thanks, okay, matt In terms of players
whose names you're going to call a lot for the
Rams offensively on Sunday, it goes without saying that, Matthew

(02:02:16):
Stafford and we've been talking about it over the course
of today. He has two receivers that he is throwing to,
understandably so with the most frequency nearly seventy percent of
the time. What player, if you are calling their name
a lot on Sunday when the Rams have the football,
is it bad news for Indianapolis because it's means that
LA is opening up their playbook.

Speaker 4 (02:02:37):
Well, I mean, I think in the slot, Puka Nakua,
you know, he's one of the best receivers, but certainly
one of the best slot receivers in the NFL. In fact,
already leaves the NFL in both catches and receiving yards.
He's on pace for more receiving yards this year than
he had when he was a rookie when he broke
the record, the NFL rookie record for both catches and
receiving yards by a first year player. So he is

(02:03:00):
is definitely somebody you're gonna have to be concerned with.
And you know, lighting up in the slot primarily as
he does, it'd be great to have one of the
best nickel corners in the game, but it sounds like
the Colts will not have that luxury with Kenny Moore
of the second he's got that calf injury that's kind of,
according to Shane Stike and now kind of morphed into
the combination of a calf and an achilles and so

(02:03:22):
that's you know, anytime you hear the achilles word around here,
you know, people start shaking a little bit because of
what's happened in the past with injuries to superstars in
this market, most specifically recently with Tyrese Halliburton. So it's understandable.
But they say he's not going to go on ir,
which is good. So it's going to be kind of
a week to week thing here going forward, but I

(02:03:43):
think it's safe to assume that he might miss a
game or two, and in this game, obviously that's less
than desirable because you just want to have his experience
out there, his savviness and his playmaking ability, as we
saw in that first series against Tennessee, taking that inner
perception back, you know, thirty plus yards. But you know

(02:04:03):
they don't just sit around and wait and hope and
you know, sort of cross their fingers. They go bold.
Bringing into Mike Hilton kind of experience with lou Ana
Rumo in this defense, spent four years with Cincinnati, he's
on the practice squad. I think it's a no brainer
as of right now to think that he's going to
get brought up on Saturday. With the standard elevation there.
Makai Blackman has started, or I should say it's played

(02:04:26):
some at nickel in his career, but he's been primarily
an outside guy. So they do have options, but you know,
it's you would definitely want Kenny Moore out there in
a game like this trying to shut down I think
the premier slot receiver in the NFL right now.

Speaker 1 (02:04:41):
You know the Matt I mentioned this earlier, and I'm
curious your thought on this. If you were to survey
general managers in the NFL and we're going to take
the with no disrespect for what I'm about to ask,
I'm going to take the punter kicker holder combination out
of the equation as a potential answer here. Okay, But
if you'd surveyed general managers at the beginning of the

(02:05:04):
season and said, I'm looking into a crystal ball and
over the course of the year, you're going to have
one unit room want one group in terms of your
football roster where you're going to have to go really
deep and possibly into midweek acquisition players to play on Sunday.
So you've got the wide receiver room, you've got the

(02:05:25):
offensive line room, the defensive line room, et cetera. What
room do you believe general managers would most select to
have that be the case for them, because it's the
one where you can have the least fall off with
guys that you are planting in on a Sunday that
you acquired on a Tuesday.

Speaker 4 (02:05:45):
Oh Man, good question. You know it's obviously not quarter.
I mean, the premium positions are out right, so across
those off premium positions are quarterback, receiver, defensive end, and cornerback,
left tackle, you know, throw in right tackle in there
as well. So that leaves you with a lot of

(02:06:08):
positions on defense. I guess gunned tohead, Like if I'm
a general manager and I'm answering that question for myself,
and I'm not answering for you know, Chris Ballard or
Less Sneed or somebody, right Like, if I have to
answer just for me, I would say probably linebacker, in
no particular order, linebacker, safety, and running back.

Speaker 2 (02:06:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:06:32):
See, I thought defensive backfield in general, right only in
safety would be specifically the best there. But I think
it's any position, Matt to your point where you're not
overly reliant on the feel or the chemistry and the
movement of the guys around you within your unit.

Speaker 2 (02:06:51):
Does that make sense?

Speaker 4 (02:06:52):
Yeah, it does, And you know it's one of those again,
not to downplay anything. I mean, playing linebacker in most
defensive skin means it's pretty transferable, right, I'm not trying
to dumb down the position, but you get what I'm saying. Like,
you know, it's you know, whether you're playing in a
in a base four three or you know, a variation

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of a five min front at times, plane linebacker is
pretty much transferable. Same thing at safety. You know, running
back obviously has seen a lot of It's been a
polarizing position just because at the top end you've got
guys like Saekwon Barkley and Jonathan Taylor and Derrick Henry
that deserve all of the money. But you know, for

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the last ten years or so, you know, that's been
one of the positions at least on offense that's been
you know, sort of downgraded. And you know, we've seen
the idea of going cheap and young adapt position, you know,
paying guys or using guys that are on your rookie
contracts because you're gonna get similar production from a young
guy compared to you know, a guy you give a

(02:07:55):
second contract to. You know, like, if you can get
eighty percent out of an undrafted rookie free agent running back,
why do I have to pay somebody that's going into
a second contract that has you know, whatever it is,
six hundred and seven hundred carries under their belt in
the NFL and a lot of wear and tear. So
that's generally speaking kind of the ideology there. But yeah,
I mean, you never want to be fit in any place.

(02:08:16):
But you know, if you have to choose, I guess,
or to be linebacker safety and then depending on who
you got a running back, you can make it work
with a platoon situation.

Speaker 1 (02:08:23):
I'm going to let you read one more listener comment here, Matt,
and I'll have you this time. Last time it was Eddie,
I'll have you respond to this one. Hey, Jake, do
you really think single people that shop at Kroger are losers?

Speaker 4 (02:08:37):
Well, you're putting me in a bad spot here.

Speaker 1 (02:08:41):
They're asking if I think that because and I'm like,
you'll have my back here, Matt, that I was simply
playing on the fact that you mentioned being at Kroger
by yourself, and I was making the implication of like,
isn't that how most people go to Kroger? Like in
other words, I was actually saying that's the norm, not
the I was. I was being overly sarca. Now, Matt,
you didn't think I was calling you a loser, did you?

Speaker 4 (02:09:04):
Well?

Speaker 2 (02:09:04):
No, not that I'm overly worried about said thing. Right.

Speaker 4 (02:09:09):
No, I don't know how about you. But if you,
if you ever do shop with another person, why is
it that you always come home with way more than
what you anticipated or what you wanted to if you
were just going to go by yourself.

Speaker 2 (02:09:20):
And the other thing is just if me.

Speaker 1 (02:09:22):
Here's the other thing if you shop with someone else,
Like if Shannon and I go, like, you know, we
go to the store or whatever, okay, and I'm like,
you know, first off, i can't go more than two
aisles before I'm like, look, i know what I got
to get and I'll be right back. I'm going to
go down to such as and then and here's the thing.
Then you can't find each other. Doesn't that ninety percent
of the time end up with a text from one
or the other like I'm in the check out now

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you're like, okay, you can't find them any It's literally,
it's like this.

Speaker 2 (02:09:45):
It's like a corn maze.

Speaker 4 (02:09:47):
I can't I can't tell you how many times I've
gotten the where are you in all caps? You know,
about about thirteen about thirteen minutes away from being separated,
Like I'm in I'm in the dairy, you know for
Mexican Cheeseco night. Yeah, she's buying she's bottle, she's buying
three cases of bottle of water and also too, Like,

(02:10:09):
I don't know if this happens to anybody else, but
it just seems like every time I step into a
Kroger or a big store like Target or Meyer, I
immediately have to go to the bathroom. So I usually
just go to the bathroom and wander off without telling
her where I am there. So we just crisscross each
other all over the store for a good twin, and that.

Speaker 1 (02:10:26):
Becomes tricky because sometimes they're upfront by the registers, or
they might be back near the dairy right.

Speaker 4 (02:10:31):
Yeah, or they might not have any at all, and
then you just walk the entire store and look for
a bathroom that doesn't exist.

Speaker 2 (02:10:37):
That is also a possibility, all right, last thing after this,
I have something from that after.

Speaker 1 (02:10:43):
This, Matt, the cereal when you were in the cereal out,
give me the last guilty pleasure cereal that you bought
strictly because your parents didn't let you have it as
a kid. And you're like, I'm a man now I'm
eating it, and you bought it.

Speaker 4 (02:10:52):
Oh fruity pebble bingo, baby.

Speaker 2 (02:10:55):
I have no off sweach, no off switch with those
bad boys. None.

Speaker 4 (02:11:00):
It doesn't matter how many bulls or how many scoops
like you never get full.

Speaker 1 (02:11:05):
It's the Donado's pizza like the same thing, Like it
doesn't fill you up. It's weird, like you know what
I mean. It's not high quality necessarily or bad, but
you know you're just like it's just there, right.

Speaker 4 (02:11:15):
Just do you still feel hungry? So you just keep
housing you know, terrible sugar packed you know, non non
nutrient filled substance.

Speaker 2 (02:11:28):
And the rainbow color is always esthetically pleasing, all right,
Eddie Matt, Hold are your.

Speaker 7 (02:11:33):
Kids eight and five?

Speaker 2 (02:11:35):
Are you familiar with the movie K Pop Demon Hunters?

Speaker 3 (02:11:40):
Dude?

Speaker 4 (02:11:40):
I am way too familiar with K Pop Demon Hunters? Okay,
So are you getting the soda Pop?

Speaker 2 (02:11:45):
Dang it, you stole it.

Speaker 4 (02:11:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:11:46):
I was just saying, are your soda pop now? And
I just think of you and Rick Venturi and the
McDonald's commercial. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:11:54):
I hate, I hate to burst your bubble, but yeah,
I listened to Soda Pop about thirteen times a day.

Speaker 3 (02:11:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:12:00):
And then my little guy, he's really big into Sonic
the Hedgehog right now. So Sonic has a theme song,
so I know that by heart. So yeah, you'll get
there one day.

Speaker 3 (02:12:09):
Man.

Speaker 4 (02:12:09):
It's they that the phases are short, but they are impactful.
They leave, they leave scars. Man, like you wake up
in the middle of the night just singing all this
stuff that they're into and it goes quick. But man,
it's they're into it really really hard for just a
quick amount of time.

Speaker 1 (02:12:26):
But how long were you in the studio to film
a McDonald's commercial.

Speaker 4 (02:12:30):
By the way, we were in there four hours because
they had to shoot that from five different angles. They
had one camera. The crew was great, they were awesome,
and we were in there a long time, but not
because you know, they were messing around and weren't professional.
But they only had one camera and so we had
to shoot it from like five different angles. They had
to shoot it from like my vantage point, Rick's vantage

(02:12:53):
point in front, behind it. It was a whole ordeal.

Speaker 1 (02:12:56):
Well, it was worth it because Rick told me he
now has seven franchises as trade.

Speaker 2 (02:12:59):
So I hope you got the same.

Speaker 1 (02:13:01):
All right, Matt Colts Rams coming up. It'll be in
and out Burger along with your McDonald's, probably in LA
But we look forward to the game and certainly appreciate
the time as always.

Speaker 4 (02:13:10):
All right, boys, appreciate you guys having the weekend that.

Speaker 1 (02:13:13):
Is the Independent Shopping Matt Taylor joining us. We'll come back,
We'll do it. The Crossover brought to you by Love,
Heating and Air and handed off to John next on
the program tomorrow. By the way, you know, Daniel Jones
had a change of scenery and has kind of been
reborn as a quarterback so far and one guy I
think you can say that about that. There was a

(02:13:34):
lot of expectation for him in Indianapolis, and then it
was elsewhere where he really flourished when he went to
Atlanta and then the Raiders. Jeff George is going to
join us tomorrow because I want his perspective on how
that fresh start can help you out. Stephanie White going
to be on the program tomorrow as well. John is
out at Slippery Noodle with Marty Bacon and the Boys.
One of the greatest, if not the greatest establishments in

(02:13:54):
Central in the end of the oldest bar in Indiana
in terms of the bar top itself and it is
the Crow Solver and the Handoff brought to you by
Love Heating an Air, Love Dash, HVAC dot Com. John,
what's lined up on the Big Show today?

Speaker 7 (02:14:07):
Well, I'm going to interview a ghost because this place
is haunted. That's right, do you think, Yeah, we'll go
upstairs and interview your ghost.

Speaker 3 (02:14:15):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (02:14:15):
And there's two ghosts. One of them was an old
railroad worker I think, and the other one was part
of the brothel that used to be there, like one
hundred fift.

Speaker 2 (02:14:21):
Years for brothel.

Speaker 1 (02:14:21):
I might go up and do some of that too,
if you're not careful there you go.

Speaker 7 (02:14:26):
By the way, our mutual friend Matthew is here from
Matthew Maine and says, you need to get down here. Okay,
because Matthew has not talked to you in a while,
but you need to buy Matthew some pretzel bites. Okay,
stat fair enough, fair enough, Matthew is saying, so, yeah,
you come on down here. Hey, I got Brent Halverson

(02:14:47):
sitting next to me right now eating cottage cheese.

Speaker 2 (02:14:49):
Jake.

Speaker 7 (02:14:49):
It is incredible what we're doing with the world with
beauty cheese right now.

Speaker 2 (02:14:53):
Beautiful swinging the nation. You guys will be doing some
picks today, won't you.

Speaker 7 (02:14:58):
We're doing our week four picks coming up a we
got a feel for the Colts and the Rams in
Southern California Sunday Jake.

Speaker 1 (02:15:05):
I actually think the Colts could win. Yeah, are you
gonna pick them if they don't turn the football over?
I think they win twenty three to twenty.

Speaker 2 (02:15:12):
One if they don't turn the football over.

Speaker 1 (02:15:16):
Okay, they've been they've been been really good at not
turning the ball over.

Speaker 7 (02:15:21):
I got to make my picks on Thursday, which is
good to see you guys. But yeah, I let him
in a little bit of my lead blocker. We got
some impd guys down here that are eating lunch, hang
it out with us, tell me yes from coaches. Jake
is here as well, but really good dudes down here
with us.

Speaker 1 (02:15:37):
But I.

Speaker 7 (02:15:39):
Think this is clearly gonna be the toughest test and
for just nothing original right there. But I think it's
going to be really tough for the Colts to get done.

Speaker 1 (02:15:46):
But it's tough for me to make this pick on Thursday.

Speaker 2 (02:15:48):
Yeah, I would agree. Know everything you need to know.

Speaker 1 (02:15:51):
I'm allowing myself to hedge between now and tomorrow.

Speaker 7 (02:15:55):
That's cool.

Speaker 1 (02:15:55):
I understand that I do.

Speaker 7 (02:15:57):
Tomorrow Bearringer's Tavern and Antoine and our good friend mutual
friend a Paris gonna join us down there for a
little bit welcoming up at three tomorrow parent just tevert,
so maybe we'll do a little cross talk with the
former cult.

Speaker 1 (02:16:09):
Safety love down there with us as well. All right, John,
we'll be out there at Slippery Noodle. Say hi to
Marty and everybody when you come by. Matthew will be
there as well, and John will take it over next.
I appreciate everybody today listening to a querying company.

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