Colts Practice & Busy Sports Weekend Recap! Jaylon Jones Joins!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It is a Monday back once again, and admittedly heat advisory.
How about that heat advised me for the next two
days for Colts camp. But mother Nature, I've decided, here's
the deal. Mother Nature is a Colts fan. This we know.
I don't know about necessarily, you know, for factually, I'm
sure somebody can go back and point to several times
where there has been contrary to that in terms of

(00:22):
things getting a little bit crazy with the weather. But
a little bit of a reprieve for Colts Camp to
start this week here at Grand Park and Westfield, which
is where we are for this Colts camp in week
number What are we in, Eddie? Is this week number
two of Colts Camp?

Speaker 2 (00:36):
I think, well, it's an interesting point, Jake, because they
didn't start until what last Wednesday?

Speaker 1 (00:41):
So yeah, so I mean we're it's still within a week,
but it's it's week number two. We ripped off the
page of the calendar for the week right, and so
as a result, the colts are back on the practice field.
And now let me get you up to speed on
what took place this morning, the biggest being that Anthony
Richardson went out. This was big, big, big, big news
Anthony Richardson went out and as they were warming up

(01:02):
his first throw, he grabbed the football and he threw
it in the dirt, But it was intentional. He was
kind of horsing around. So you can make the argument
if you like, if you think that Daniel Jones is
the guy, then there's your point about Anthony Richardson. But
all the quarterbacks working today. Practice getting underway, and there
was rain overnight and so it as a result, it
was much cooler in Graham Park than what is expected,

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certainly over the course of when we're doing this show.
I think he did in dex over one hundred degrees
today and tomorrow, and we'll see how that impacts and
what exactly goes on with the Colts for that. But
that is the schedule for today, just that morning practice
and then after that it will be meetings and etc.
Then tomorrow back on the practice field at ten o'clock

(01:43):
in the morning. And as for the Colts quarterback battle,
if you will, I think when you look at it.
And JJ Watt had an interesting post the former Houston
Texan Great over the weekend where he said people need
to quit sending out videos of every play during training
camps because you don't know what's going on. And I

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think there is some legitimacy to that. I get that,
and I understand that it is the job of all
of us fans, included media, whatever else to analyze everything
that's going on. But I do think that there is
some legitimacy to that particular sentiment of the fact that
just when you look at it and you say, Okay,
a guy through an interception, or a guy had a

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pass that was well behind the receiver, or this defensive
player made a spectacular move, or the defense dominated the
offense today, or the offense dominated the defense today, all
of those things give us indication. And certainly if you
go back over history, you can see during training camp
there are tendencies that can show themselves that then become

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unfortunate patterns or unfortunate habits that take place over the
course of a year. And you can sometimes go back
and look at it and say, you could see in camp,
you could see the blueprint, You could see the footprint
for what ultimately ended up becoming what we now know
is what happened over the course of the regular season.
But I just don't think with like one particular play

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one particular overthrow, one particular interception. It's a danger in
getting into that and over analyzing it. But one thing
that I think we can safely at this point say
is that if you still have and we are again
just starting week number two, but considering that we still
have a quote unquote quarterback battle, and there has not

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been either of those two that have made any sort
of You've not seen any headlines, any talk, any discussion.
You've not heard Shane Stike, and you've not heard Chris
Ballard talking about and raving about either of those two
quarterbacks between Jones and Richardson. And I think it's still
at this point. And you know, Kevin Bowen, May, James Boyd,
Mike Chapple, who's going to join us on the show today.

(03:51):
They might have differing opinions of this, but it's my
opinion that at this point there really is not any
more headway on determining and understand who the starting quarterback
is going to be, more so than there was a
week ago. I think we are still at the same spot.
But I keep going back to this default. It is
my belief, not fact, but it's my belief and opinion

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and especially just engaging through talking, to reading, the body language,
all of it. I think that and I do believe
that Daniel Jones is going to start Week one. I
have nothing to base that on on the field in
practice so far, but I just thought coming into it
that Daniel Jones was the guy based on the money
that he got, the one year deal that he got,

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everything that goes into it. It felt to me like
Daniel Jones in fact, was going to be the guy
that was going to win the job. But I say
that with air quotes of win the job, because if
Daniel Jones is the starting quarterback Week one, I think
it's going to be almost not necessarily because Daniel Jones

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went out and won the job, which he has not
done yet, but rather Anthony Richardson is not the one
that won it. I think that Daniel Jones becomes the starter,
not because Daniel Jones clearly outplayed Anthony Richardson, but that
everything was set up for Richardson to be the default,
and Richardson because of everything invested in him, That's who

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I think you would rather see as the starter, and
so opportunities are going to be granted. The tipping scale
is going to lean towards him when they're trying to
determine tiebreakers, et cetera. But if Richardson does not do
anything that just jumps out at the page at you,
and in that fault degresses at times, and I think

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there's been some regression. I guess regression is the better word.
So what I'm trying to say long win in circuitus
is this, If Daniel Jones is the starting quarterback for
the Colts in week one, then I think it may
well be simply because Anthony Richardson lost the job, not
because Daniel Jones jumped out and grabbed it. But we

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shall see what happens between those two. At this point,
we don't. I mean, there has not been any major
step in determining that exact factor the other things that
go into play. IM and Tyler Warren's starting to get
a lot more work. This morning in practice, they did
several drills, quarterbacking drills that were and Shane Steikin had
talked about this, the fact that Shane steiken had mentioned

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Hey games oftentimes in the NFL are one and lost
late in the game in terms of the last drive
or two, and so we need to do a better job.
I'm saying Shane Steikin was saying this, the Colts need
to do a better job of in those frantic situations,
being able to have some control of the uncontrollable, if

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you will. And I think you saw that today earlier
today in practice because one of the things that they
did they lined up their tight ends, notably Tyler Warren
and just kind of ran like this assembly line through
where the four quarterbacks and I'm talking about being Leonard
and then the afore mentioned Jones and Richardson were all
lined up and their job was to each individually just

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come up, grab a football, throw, come up a football throw.
And they did this consistent, steady rotation of that where
each quarterback when they got up there into the situation
to throw the football, was doing so under durest because
it was the fast let's go, let's go, let's go.
And I think that also is by design to see
how well those quarterbacks are working in situations. It did

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appear as though today that Shane Steichen and the Colts
were elevating their pacing within practice, and that's something that
they had kind of promised to do and that there
was discussion that we would see more of in this
particular session, Eddie Garrison here as well. Obviously, Eddie, let's
get to the Fever as well, because you obviously served

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primarily as the primary pre and post game host for
Fever broadcast. They got to win over the weekend, and
again a little bit more understanding perhaps of the timeline
of Caitlin Clark, But in the meantime, there are other
players that have been able to step up their game,
Kelsey Mitchell being one of them. Over the weekend. Oh yeah, Jake.

Speaker 2 (07:58):
She drops thirty five points in their win yesterday on
twelve to seventeen shooting and season high for her. And
she's been the best player in the WNBA this month.
She'll probably, you know, be recognized as the WBA Eastern
Conference Player of the Month just because she's leading the
league in scoring, averaging just over twenty two a game
during the month, and she's been the one key fixture

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for the Fever that's been consistent, whether Caitlin Clark has
been on the floor or she hasn't. Leah Boston has
been pretty steady, but the numbers in terms of her
output have been inconsistent, and that's just in large part
because their defenses are focusing more on Alia to try
to take her away, and it's resulting in you know,
Kelsey Metro getting the ball more and having more space
to operate, and they could win yesterday over Chicago. No

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Angel reaching that game either. I'm still waiting though, to
see what the status of Kaitlin Clark holes in terms
of when she's coming back and how shooting, how soon
she's coming back Their next in action tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (08:54):
So, Eddie, did you do anything fun and exciting over
the weekend? By the way, I did, Jake, I did?
Let me tell you.

Speaker 2 (09:00):
Uh so, Happy Gilmore two came out obviously last Friday,
and so Olivia and I made the decision of going
over to a couple of our coworker's house and let's
just say forty five minutes of Happy Gilmore was watched
in the last hour or so was background noise.

Speaker 1 (09:15):
No wait, can you can you elaborate on this please? Now?
I'm very curious, hold on, I want to I want
to back this up. So so you're telling me now,
now you tell me if I'm getting all of the
clues here correct. So the two of you went over
to a co worker's house to watch Happy Gilmore two,
did I get Do I have that part? Correct? Yes?
There were five of us in total? Oh, four four

(09:39):
us so two couples, right, No, okay, So so you
and Olivia as a couple went yes, and then you
were meeting up with two individual members of our co
worker too, two co workers individually.

Speaker 2 (09:55):
Correct, not of hours of hers.

Speaker 1 (09:57):
Okay, okay, So so for so there and then you
watched forty five minutes of the movie If Happy Gilmore two. Yeah, okay,
And this is where this is where all of a sudden,
I feel like, I feel like and this is where
fourteen year old me comes into play. Then I feel
like the the HBO or the Cinemax, like adult content

(10:19):
disclaimer comes in because then you said that suddenly the
movie became background noise as these and originally what you
said is that these two different couples then were there
And now I'm wondering what in the world was taking place? Now?
Do you mean just that the movie sucked?

Speaker 2 (10:35):
No, I just can't remember much of the movie, Jake,
if you if you're picking up on what I'm putting
down there, we didn't go over there until almost midnight,
and there were there were drinks involved, and there was
a drinking game involved, and.

Speaker 1 (10:49):
Was there any were there any watermelon products involved? No?
No watermelon products involved? Okay, okay, well I mean it
is it is important in these weather conditions to make
sure that you're staying hydrated Eddie. Right, yeah, you went
with there?

Speaker 2 (11:02):
Oh yeah, ondred percent and it's five five total people
were there?

Speaker 1 (11:05):
I remember the tally? Now, okay, five total people? Yeska,
And so so what you're saying is when evaluating and
assessing the Happy Gilmore two movie, Uh, by by all account,
it was fine, but you're not necessarily completely aware of
all of it, is what you're getting.

Speaker 2 (11:21):
At, right, Yes, because we became more chatty and oh
the movie which is kind of like in the background
in Olivia was the only person that was not consuming
because she had to drive.

Speaker 1 (11:33):
So will you well that's very responsible. So then will
you review the movie just to recapture what it is
that you might have missed? Oh? Yes, yeah, okay, well
fair enough. And this this movie, this is the thing
I have with movies. Now, this is my only problem.
I love going to the movie theater. We actually went
to a movie on Friday night, which I love going
to What's that? Where'd you go? See it was. It

(11:54):
was called oh hi oh kind of a B movie.
Kind of a B movie. I will say that there was.
There was one like you know, an actress and it
was about a young couple. So there was the old
ben brief nudity as they say in the Disclivers. But
I mean it was a decent movie. It was okay, right,
it was okay. It was definitely like a B movie.

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But just the experience of going to the theater. Now,
let me tell you one thing that happened to me,
and we'll get back into colts camp, and I want
to talk about what happened over the weekend at the
Indianapolis Motor Speedway as well. But one weird thing happened, Eddie,
And you tell me what you make of this. So
we go to this movie. It's kind of a B movie,
not a bad movie. It was fine. There were probably
fifteen people, twenty people in the theater, okay. So, and

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it's one of those theaters with the big reclined seats
and you allegedly have a signed seating. So we are
sitting in our in our row, yeah, Shannon and myself,
and we're basically in the middle of our row in
about three quarters the way through the movie, some guy
probably twenty five years old, comes in and sits down
right next to me, has his popcorn, has his coke,

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ha's his popcorn, has his coke, sits down right next
to me. The whole theater's open. What are we doing here? Right?
What are we doing? I found it interesting, though, did
you think theater? No? I actually was kind of alarmed
by it because it was the movie's kind of like
a lighthearted version of like misery. So you got this
poor guy in the movie that's trapped with this like

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crazy demented girlfriend, and you know, it's a little bit
of a psycho thriller type thing. And then all of
a sudden, three quarters the way through it, just as
some guys like, you know, wondering what his future and
fate is going to be, some random dude just comes
in and sits down right next to me with his popcorn,
reclines the seatback, puts his feet up, and I'm just like,
what's happening. If it was the beginning of the movie,

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even then, I would have been like, hey, man, like
we each have our own state that we can pick
in this, you know what I mean? Like if this
was the United States. We're sitting in Kansas, and the
closest person is in either Rhode Island, Delaware, or like Arizona.
And this guy just comes and plops down as Missouri,
and I'm like, what in the world.

Speaker 2 (14:00):
Before we get back into the colts, where do you sit?
Do you have a specific area that you have to
sit in a movie theater? Are you in the front,
you in the back, you in the middle, you on
the aisle?

Speaker 1 (14:08):
On these where we sit? That excellent question. Excellent question.
I prefer aisle seating just so you don't have to
climb over anybody, unless it's a movie like this that
sucks so bad that nobody else is there. Middle of
the theater, so you don't want to be too far up,
you know, I don't want strained eyes nor neck. Okay,
best way to say it. So middle of the theater
and then middle of the row. She bought the tickets, though,
so she picked out the seats, and I don't know

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whether or not she planted this dude to come sit
next to me. It would be very uncomfortable. It was
very strange, very strange. Now there was good theater and
not good theater. When it comes to the weekend of racing.
Let's begin with and I shouldn't say not good theater,
because what we are seeing from alex Poalow is truly remarkable.
He has now won nineteen races. He has won eight
on the season, nine in his nineteen in his career,

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eight in the season in dominating fashion over the weekend
in Monterey Weather Tech Raceway, Laguna, Seka. I was on
the call for that race yesterday, and you know, Polo
essentially did what Polo does. He led wire to wire
for the most part, he jumped out to a huge
lead off of the poll, and then each time he
built a lead so big that he was able to

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come in. And for that matter, in the first stint
before he came into the pits, he went I think
three laps further on his tires than did anybody else.
So he was in very good shape when he pitted
it and then came out, got back up to speed,
didn't really lose any ground on track, and it was
dominating fashion for him. But the other thing that happened
that I want to get into is what happened yesterday

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at IMS. And this is another one of those sessions
where I have a confession. It's a session, a confession
session here on Queruing Company on this Monday, by the way,
Colt's Campgrand Park in Westfield where we are. And when
Bubba Wallace and the IndyCar race finished, and then I
was able to see and mostly I had to go

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back and watch again the last lapse of the Brickyard
four hundred and Bubba Wallace. And I certainly under stand
that over the court. You know, Bubba Wallace has been
a race car driver for a long time now. This
is not like a new phenomenon of and I know
that NASCAR, there is a lot of Oftentimes in NASCAR races,
you can look at a race and you can say

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to yourself, well, that seems awfully convenient that it fell
this way, or that this person want or that person won.
And so therefore, when there are you know, when Daniel
Suarez happens to win in Mexico, or when Kurt Bush
is driving the Sharpie car and wins the SHARPI five
hundred for the third straight year, you know, I understand
that people can make those connections. But yesterday with Bubba Wallace,

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after that race was over with, I will admit to this.
I knew the history and the significance of the fact
that you had the first African American to win a
race at the Indianapolis Motor Speedway on the oval. I
understood the significance of that. And then I thought to myself,
but if you look at the history of Bubba Wallace,
who is an accomplished race car driver, who has multiple

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wins within NASCAR, who's been around a long time, who
got himself into the playoffs with that win, so this
is not an anomaly winner. This is not a suspicious victory.
Bubba Wallace won that race yesterday by figuring out, I mean,
by running on fumes and yet still maneuvering his car
in overtime and holding off a challenge of one of

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the best oval stock car drivers and oval drivers in
general that we have seen in racing in the last
quarter century, half century, and Kyle Larson, Bubba Wallace legitimately
earned the victory yesterday. And as I was thinking about
it after the fact, and I was thinking about the
level of storyline, if you will, of the significance of

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Bubba Wallace being the first African American to win at
the Indianapolis Motor Speedway, and I thought, you know what,
how great is it that we are past that? How
great is it that that is not the storyline? Because
the storyline is just the fact that a darn good
race car driver held off in a level historically great
race car driver to win at a historic track. And

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it's awesome that Bubba Wallace has been around long enough
and drives from Michael Jordan and is you know, all
of those things. It's awesome that all of those things
overshadow the fact that he is the first African American.
And I thought, that's great, and that's so that's not
even really a storyline. And then to quote ice Cube,
I kind of had to check myself because I thought

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about it historically, and I'll tell you what I thought about.
I thought about Willy t Ribbs. And when Willy t
Ribbs was making his historic qualifying attempt in nineteen ninety one,
eighty years eighty years and seventy five runnings of the
Indianapolis five hundred after the first one, Willy t Ribbs
was pulling out onto the main street to go try

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to make his qualifying run in nineteen ninety one, and
as he was doing so, he tells the story of
seeing a USAK scoring official that was lined up to
send him on about his way, that had tears in
his eyes. And Willy t Ribbs saw the tears in
the eyes of that USACK official, and I thought about
the fact that that USACK official probably was thinking about

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this significance of that because while he might not have
been alive, clearly probably was not. In the early twenties,
he had to think about those drivers, people like Charlie Wiggins,
who grew up in Evansville in the turn of the
twentieth century and grew up in an era as a
black man in an area that was infiltrated and influenced

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by the ku Klux Klan, and dreamed of becoming an
elite level mechanic, and by the time he was an
elite level mechanic. Still at that time, the American Automobile
Association was not allowing black drivers to race against non
black drivers. White drivers were not allowed to race against
black drivers at that time. And so at that time,

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for a Charlie Wiggins, thanked goodness for him and for
others that the Colored Speedway Association started in nineteen twenty
four and nineteen twenty four, not seventeen ninety, not eighteen ninety,
nineteen twenty four, which, yes, over one hundred years ago now,
but still within you're not very far away removed from
descendants of that era. And so I thought about Charlie Wiggins,

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and I thought about the significance for Charlie Wiggins have
seen the Colored Speedway Association starting in nineteen twenty four,
and then ultimately what it must have meant for him
to see, for example, Joey Ray. Joey Ray who was
there in nineteen ninety one when Willie t Ribbs made
his qualifying run. Joey Ray, who raced seventeen seasons from
nineteen forty seven to nineteen sixty three, and he raced

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in sprints and midgets and everything else that was available.
And finally the American Automobile Association allowed for him to
become a member, and he raised his first race in
June twenty sixth of nineteen forty nine, nineteen forty nine,
twenty five years after the Colored Speedway Association began and
you know, forming a circuit for black drivers, Joey Ray

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was able to finally get that membership into the American
Automobile Association, and so he raced in nineteen forty nine,
and that is not I mean, that sounds like a
long time ago, but we're talking about somebody that was
there in nineteen ninety one, that was there in nineteen
ninety one when at the Indianapolis Motor Speedway when you

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had that significance of Willie t Ribs going out and
making his run, and Joey Ray was there, and you
think about, yes, there were others. Wendell Scott won in
Jacksonville and USAK in nineteen sixty three, So all of
this has been done. I get it. But when thinking
about it, when I thought about the accomplishments of those
drivers and what it meant for those people, I wondered if,

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in fact, when Wendell Scott won in nineteen sixty three,
did people say this isn't significant because Joey Ray was
able to race fourteen years ago? And when Joey Ray
first raced in nineteen forty nine in a USAC race,
did people say this isn't significant because the Colored Speedway
Association was forming races twenty five years ago. So what

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I figured out and what I thought about when thinking
about that significance was I thought about that man that
was weeping when Willie t Ribbs went out to make
his qualifying attempt, because that man was connected to that
history and those significant events. And it dawned on me
that the people that are the most impacted by it

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are the ones that to those they are able to
determine whether or not something is significant. It is not
my place to say that, and I do think that
to this day. Miles Row, who is a promising driver
in the indian X presented by Firestone, and won at
Iowa and became the first African American driver to win
in the final top rung of the Open Wheel Racing

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series that gets into the NTT IndyCar Series. For Miles Row,
I would bet you that he found it significt again
that Bubba Wallace won at the Indianapolis Motor Speedway and
if Danika Patrick had won the Brickyard four hundred after
several attempts since several years of history at the Indianapolis
five hundred, If Danica Patrick had won the Indianapolis five
hundred or the Brickyard four hundred, either one, it would

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not have been dismissed. As well, the fact she's a
female is no longer relevant because of her level of accomplishment,
it would have been listed as significant, just as it
was yesterday that Catherine Lake finish seventeenth, because of the
fact that it still has connection to or is within
recency of historical anomaly. And so for that reason, I
hope that those that were touched by, driven by, influenced by,

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motivated by the accomplishments of Bubba Wallace were able to
enjoy it yesterday because what you saw was a historical
note in the world of racing at the most famous
historical racetrack in the United States in the world, the
Indianapolis Motor Speedway is different. If Bubba Wallace had gotten
that race as he's done before at other tracks, it's
not It's still noteworthy, but it's not as noteworthy as

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the most historic track in the United States. And certainly,
and yes, with all due respect to the Daytona International Speedway,
the Indianapolis Motor Speedway is still the greatest racetrack in
which NASCAR runs because any series that goes there would
consider it to be the krem de la creme of
the places where it can run because of the history
within so anytime we have the opportunity to celebrate a

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historical accomplishment that is the first of any level. We
celebrate it, and so therefore congratulations to Bubba Wallace. And
it was very cool to be able to say, albeit
perhaps years after it should have been, that we were
able to witness yesterday history and doing so in tremendous fashion,
because that is, he earned that win by going in

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running low on fuel, having to win in overtime, having
to hold off Kyle Larson. Significant win, and Bubba Wallace
punches his card now into the NASCAR playoffs and does
it at the Indianapolis Motor Speedway. Jalen Jones is a
guy for the Colts that we have talked about being
in involved in an almost unpredictable battle, not unlike the
fact that I mentioned yesterday that it went in overtime
in that Brickyard four hundred, right, is the battle at

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the cornerback position just starting to go into not an
overtime but just the regular season with Justin Wally the
rookie still continuing to get a lot of starting reps.
Jalen Jones as a guy that I thought played well
out of Texas A and M after being a seventh
round pick, but fighting for that starting spot, we'll see
where things lie. And I might ask him as well
the same thing of which quarterback from his standpoint when

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he's looking out over them, does he feel like he's
throwing the tighter ball, the ball with the more zip.
Maybe he can give us some insight into that. I
mentioned Jalen Jones because he's actually going to join us
next on this Monday. Chap going to join us later
today as well. It's Query and Company coming off of
the weekend, and a historic one at that. You're listening
to it on ninety three five one oh seven to
five to the fan Colts Camp, Grand Park, Westfield on

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what is obviously starting to become a very hot day.
Good news is it was a little bit cooler this
morning morning. Jalen Jones had to like that along with
the rest of the colts. I realized that when you
were coming off the field, you're pilot, what are you
talking about? It was cooler this morning. But things were
not as bad as we thought they were going to
be in terms of the heat that we're going to
see probably even later this afternoon. But things are heating
up at your position. You're in year number three. Now

(26:17):
we'll get to all of that. But first off, man,
good to see it. How are you.

Speaker 3 (26:19):
I'm doing good, doing good, just you know, blessed to
be out here with the fellas, with the guys, you know,
preparation and just getting everything together, man, getting ready for
the seat.

Speaker 1 (26:27):
And so you know, it's interesting if you look at
your story. Okay, so you're a guy that, you know,
coming out of you know, even going into college, right
you were you know, an under armour all American. I mean,
you were a five star recruit. You go and you
play collegiately at A and M, and then you get
drafted here in round number seven and you got to
kind of earn your keep a little bit. I thought
you did a good job with that, especially when healthy.

(26:49):
But the question I guess I would have is at
what point does that mindset kick in where you realize
that there's battles and competitions and at some point in
your career I would imagine and the just natural ability
kind of carried you a little. I'm not saying you
didn't work hard, do you get what I'm saying though?

Speaker 4 (27:04):
Though?

Speaker 1 (27:04):
Right? So, was that in the NFL level at all
eye opening or an adjustment that you had to make.

Speaker 3 (27:10):
Oh, you know, I really just kept the main thing,
the main thing, you know, just coming in and just
you know, give them all every day. I'm I'm someone
that you know, I live by my faith, so uh,
just putting it all on the line and then God
take care of the rest. And you know, the city
that I come from, you know, we don't really get
recognized for football.

Speaker 4 (27:29):
It's kind of blowing up a little bit more now.

Speaker 3 (27:30):
So definitely just having that chip on my shoulder and
you know, just you know, putting on for my last
name and coming out here trying to you know, display
all my work.

Speaker 4 (27:39):
That's why I take pride in it.

Speaker 1 (27:40):
Okay, So the city you come from, I want to
get to that. I'm going to see if I can
pronounce it correctly. Okay, Cibolo Sibelibilo. It's San Antonio, so Santatonia. Right,
So you're a Spurs fan, yes, okay, fair enough. And
that's now San Antonio is at the highlands of Texas,
and my way off of my geography here, I'm like.

Speaker 4 (27:58):
Uh, it's it's hill country.

Speaker 1 (28:00):
You know.

Speaker 3 (28:00):
Let's try between you know, all that area Central Texas, Austin.
That's all like your hell country.

Speaker 1 (28:05):
So wait a minute. So I'm sitting here talking about
the heat and the and the weather. This is winter
to you, right, I mean this is nothing for you. You're
used to hot, humid that this is this is all right.

Speaker 4 (28:13):
I'm used about hunting and five hunting in two. I'm
used to that.

Speaker 1 (28:16):
So okay, So let's let's get to this in terms
of let's go through your first two years in the NFL.
Jalen Jones are the Colts is our guest years one
and two? What were the things that to me from
the get go you looked very comfortable with an NFL player,
and I was very impressed by your your close time,
your athleticism. But for you personally, what felt like the

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area where you wanted to get a better feel for things?

Speaker 3 (28:42):
Uh, there's definitely a you know, just just learning more
about the game. I feel like when you come to
the NFL, you're coming as a rookie. You learned something
new every day, even now and being a year three,
I mean you learned something every day. I hear coaches
all the time said they learn new things every day.
So like just understanding the game, understanding what what teams

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are trying to do.

Speaker 4 (29:04):
And I'm your matchup.

Speaker 3 (29:07):
I feel like everything home because I mean athletic a
gonna be a billity.

Speaker 4 (29:14):
But the mental aspect and so.

Speaker 1 (29:17):
Stand, Uh would you say, what person of playing your
position at corner is preparation and understanding the tendencies and
the nuance of the guy you're lining up against, and
what percent of it is just natural instinct?

Speaker 3 (29:30):
I would say, uh, down in distance, Uh, their scheme,
what they like to do, and the information, just just
looking at the whole field and understanding like, okay, this
how they're going to try to attack me right here.
So that's that's like the mental aspect, the athletic aspect,
the instincts is just like you know what you mean,
it's like backyard football, you know what I'm saying, and

(29:52):
really holding in on your technique, you know, that's everything,
Especially for me as a corner as a dB, eyes
are everything, you know what I'm saying. Eyes so religious
paying attention to little things like that could be the
difference between a catch, a PBu or interception.

Speaker 1 (30:07):
So you know, in basketball they always say that when
you're guarding a guy, you got to watch his abdomen
because he can his feet can go one way right
to fake you out shot go one way, and I was, yeah,
all of it right. But the area is that that
that's the only way that the guy's going is where
that's turning right for you? When you were lining up
on a guy. And let's say that, and we'll go
two different guys here. The first is you're going up

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against the receiver that you're totally unfamiliar with. You've not
seen a lot of tape on him. You don't know
where are you looking on him to give you the
indication of what he is going to do?

Speaker 3 (30:37):
Right right in adam, right in his same thing? Then right,
I can't yeah, because that can't go nowhere?

Speaker 1 (30:42):
Okay, And then I would assume if it is a
guy that you've gone up against a lot, then are
there what little things do you look for? Is it
different from player to player in terms of their tendencies
that you say, Okay, I've seen that before from this guy,
so I know which way he's going.

Speaker 3 (30:59):
Yeah, definitely. You play a guy a lot of times,
you know his moves, what he likes to do. But
at the end of the day, like it comes down
to just a mental preparation, you know, especially like we're
on the field this. You know, third fourth quarter you're tired.
You know, technique, you got to you gotta be gotta
be a one. You can't be sloppy out there because
like I said, a small smidge of a step could
be like I said, a catch or people you are interception.

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So definitely just understanding that, Okay, this guy likes to
do this, but I still got to play my technique.

Speaker 1 (31:26):
Jalen Jones, our guest. He is entering year number three
for the Colts where at Grand Park Westfield, where the
conversation taking place here jailing for you personally this year,
you know you're involved in a position battle. Quite frankly,
Justin Whaley, who they drafted out of Minnesota, has gotten
a lot of reps obviously Juju. Brent's trying to get
that year where he can be healthy. I like his
athleticism as well. You look at it, How did you

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anticipate that you would be in this battle?

Speaker 4 (31:51):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (31:51):
You know?

Speaker 3 (31:52):
Yeah, Like you know, new coaching staff coming in and
basically just having a mindset of like, you know, you
got to earn it every day. You know, nothing's just
gonna be give it to me, you know what I'm saying.
So I go out there, just keep the main thing
and mainything, keep working, keep keep hounding in on my work.
And as a room, you know, we help each other.
You know, it's not like, you know, no crazy, just
we all help each other.

Speaker 4 (32:12):
Man.

Speaker 3 (32:12):
So definitely just trying to trying to trying to keep it,
you know, trying to keep it all honed in. And
you know it's a team game, man, we all got
to go out there as eleven.

Speaker 1 (32:21):
So for you personally, this defense in terms of the
schemes that are being brought in by lou Anromo, they
feel different to you in what way? What do you
like or not like or yet to grasp with this defense?

Speaker 5 (32:32):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (32:33):
Love it.

Speaker 3 (32:33):
It's aggressive, you know, it's aggressive, and that's what I
love about lou so and and the main thing I
love about him is, you know, help heals everybody accountable,
you know what I'm saying. So I love that And
like I said, man, it's it's gonna be It's gonna
be good this year.

Speaker 1 (32:47):
Now, would you prefer to play in a defense that
is more man where you're just going you're locking in
on the guy, or do you like the zone coverage
where you get an area but you also get some help.

Speaker 3 (32:58):
You know, I'm somebody I like it all just because
you know, at times just switch ups. But uh, like
I said, as a corner man, whether it's young man
with this whatever, like go out there, just do my job,
trying to make it play for my guys.

Speaker 1 (33:12):
By the way, are you really good at I'm just
assuming if you grew up in San Antonio and this
is maybe unfair of me. I'm gonna bet that you
really like like hot spicy food.

Speaker 4 (33:21):
Yeah, I do?

Speaker 1 (33:22):
Is that? Can you cook it? Uh?

Speaker 6 (33:24):
No?

Speaker 4 (33:24):
Okay, have you found I'm not a great cook now
yet at least.

Speaker 1 (33:28):
You and me both. Have you found a place in
India that's your favorite place where you're like that that's authentic?

Speaker 4 (33:32):
Uh? Verde Okay, I'm a Verdi guy.

Speaker 1 (33:35):
So pot of Award has told me the same thing
that he likes, the exact same thing. I like the
other thing too. I want to ask you about is
do they still do the bonfire at Texas A and.

Speaker 4 (33:43):
M oh, yeah, well I don't know.

Speaker 1 (33:46):
That was a huge deal. I think they do.

Speaker 4 (33:48):
I'm not sure. I really don't know.

Speaker 1 (33:51):
But well, do you know this. Did you know that
the Colts at one point in the Ring of Honor
had the twelfth Man and then I think they had
to take it out because Texas A and M suit him.
Are you aware of that? No, I don't even know,
because that's a big deal in A and M the
twelfth Man, right, yeah, I mean like the because that
is a crazy fan base, is it not. I mean
playing at A and M is.

Speaker 4 (34:08):
The best, the best Colt of all time?

Speaker 1 (34:11):
What's that?

Speaker 4 (34:11):
So the best Colt of all time?

Speaker 1 (34:13):
That's right, that's why they loaded call it. So, so
we take pride, and that's that's Colt with you. By
the way, Kalen Jones is our guest where at Colts
Camp h okay. I wanted to ask you this as well.
There is obviously a quarterback battle here as well. And
you know, Daniel Jones Anthony Richardson, what have you seen
from both of those guys critique for me, what you've

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seen from them in lighting up across from them?

Speaker 7 (34:35):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (34:36):
Man, they're both you know, pushing each other. They're both
helping each other. And like I said, same thing I
explained earlier, just keeping all this brotherhood, man, Like, we're
out there just to help each other.

Speaker 4 (34:45):
Master. We go out there on Sundays, you know.

Speaker 3 (34:47):
So, I mean what I've seen for both of them
is just you know, they're both hardworking, they're both locked in,
and they both they're dealing.

Speaker 1 (34:54):
So when you look at it, do they have different tendencies,
different looks, different motion, different the zip on the ball,
whatever it may be. Can you tell which one of
them is the one releasing?

Speaker 3 (35:05):
Uh No, I'm about to say, like I said, the
way I see this quarterback.

Speaker 1 (35:09):
So so when it comes to it, you're looking at
it and I guess it's the same as in the NFL, right,
I mean on a Sunday, it's you've got to know
the tendencies of a guy. But yet in that particular play,
you're just honed in on it's quarterback. You're not going
with the name of the personnel. Yeah, fair, they got it.
He's throwing the ball to the receiver and your job
is to make sure it doesn't get it right. All right. Lastly,

(35:33):
this defense, as we talked about, as we move our
way in it is progressing at what rate you are
at what percentage as a unit of understanding what coach
Louis and Arrumo wants versus where you need to be,
how far along. Have you guys gotten in the depths
of what he wants defensively?

Speaker 4 (35:51):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (35:51):
Man, you know we're you know, we're pretty much uh.
I mean we're honing locked in on everything just so
you know, and everything's game playing. You know, week in
and week out, something's gonna switch some things. You know,
that's just what it is. That's the game of ball.
But I mean as as terms is, you know, everybody,
you know, knowing what's going on.

Speaker 4 (36:12):
Everybody, everybody's one hundred percent everything.

Speaker 1 (36:14):
So have you got have you guys gotten into fully
what it is that that you're going to do as
a defense.

Speaker 4 (36:20):
Yeah, we understand what he wants. We understand what he wants.
But like I said, you know, we're just out there
all honding locked.

Speaker 1 (36:27):
In so well you still got plenty of time to
go as well to get it all mastered. But it'll
be here before we know it. Jalen Jones. I appreciate it.
Continued luck and success here entering year number three for
the Colts and next time you're at Verde and enjoy
it all right, Thank you man. I appreciate you all right,
appreciate it. Jalen Jones joining us here Grand Park in Westfield.
I think we may have Chap later on the show.
We'll see whether or not we can lock him down,

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but we'll continue the discussion the conversation as well. It's
querying company here on a Monday, Grand Park in Westfield
on the fan. Thank you to Jalen Jones for his time.
I also will confess this as was the case the
other day. Certainly appreciate the Colts Camp their accommodation, Matt

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Conti in particular. But you know, obviously the practice is
done today. It was done about eleven twenty, but due
to the luxury and the magic of radio, maybe I
shouldn't say this. I'm only saying it because people are
going to be like, wait a minute now, Jake's on
the YouTube and studio. He missed me people as soon

(37:30):
as that practice was completely why I recorded that session
with Jalen Jones and then made my way from Graham
Park back here to be in studio partially because of
the fact that they are done now for the day
and there's nothing going on at Grand Park, but also
because while it has been so far, thankfully we've gotten

(37:52):
a little bit of a reprieve. You know. The anticipation
was that it's going to be really ugly later today.
A couple of news and notes here at number one,
we have tickets to give away, Eddie, is that correct?

Speaker 2 (38:04):
We have lots of tickets to give away. Jake love
that two four packs of tickets for Three Dog Night
that is Friday at the State Fair, and then Dropkick
Murphy's in Bad Religion. We have a pair of those
to give away. That concert is at ever Wise and
that will be next Tuesday. And it's my understanding Jake,
that Dropkick Murphy's are fabulous. By the way, Dad is

(38:27):
in townless. I think he comes in town this weekend
and I don't know how long he's staying, but he
is a very, very big fan of the drought Kick
Murphy So they're great.

Speaker 1 (38:36):
We have to scoop up Three Dog Night's great as well.
My middle school basketball coach, Bruce Bowling his favorite band,
Three Dog Night. He loves Three Dog Night. And the
State Fair is great in general. I mean the State Fair.
I think we're going to be out there. I'm out
there Friday, if I'm not mistaken. Dairry Bar Day, opening
day of the State Fair. They've got there's nothing better

(38:56):
than the Dairy bar. First off, I make when and
when I get to be the one of the servers there,
I am and this is the only skill that I
possess that day you're serving this year, I don't yet,
but I make milkshakes that are literally Eiffel Tower size.
I'm phenomenal. Really, have you ever made a list of

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every single place that you've ever worked atdie? Oh?

Speaker 2 (39:20):
Well, it's very simple, Jake, I don't need to make
a list.

Speaker 1 (39:23):
What about in high school?

Speaker 2 (39:25):
I worked at one place in high school, worked there
for two years.

Speaker 1 (39:28):
What did you do? I worked at a pet store. Oh?

Speaker 2 (39:32):
Really, they no longer exist, unfortunately.

Speaker 1 (39:35):
Did you? I always? Okay, riddle me this and please
tell me that their happy endings. I've always wondered what
happens to the little puppies and kittens that don't get purchased?
What do you mean?

Speaker 2 (39:46):
Well, exactly that, you know, Like, what do you mean?

Speaker 1 (39:49):
What do they do with them? So they usually get in.

Speaker 2 (39:52):
Contact with like local fostering homes or shelters, and they,
you know, set up a meet and greet for somebody
to go faster or things like that.

Speaker 1 (40:03):
Do most of them? So?

Speaker 2 (40:05):
I most of the time, yes, most of the time, Yeah,
sometimes you have to, you know, contact whomever provided the cat, like, hey,
this this cat or dog or whatever is then adapting
well and can we can you take him back to
foster him to kind of you know, get him back.

Speaker 1 (40:22):
And as well being I worked a number of different
I had a number of jobs. My first job was
at Amalia's. It was the best. There were so many
things I learned by working at Amalia's food market that
I carried to it today. I mean, I one of
the things I'll never forget was my first day on

(40:44):
the job at Amalia's. Jim Weighorst was my manager, Bill Bowler,
Jeff Jarbo. I still remember everybody I worked with. One
of the first things I remember is they said, when
you are working, if a customer asks you were an item,
you don't tell them. You walk them to it, yep.
And when you walk them to it, you ask them

(41:05):
how their day is. And I also I carried out groceries.
It was the one over by Cathedral and when you
would carry out you were allowed to take tips. And
I think I've mentioned this before. Scott Skiles would come in.
Scott Skiles was a point guard for the Pacers at
the time, lived right around the corner. He always tipped

(41:27):
and was always cool. It was cool because it was
Scott Skyles, right. And it was even better when Scott
Skyles's wife would come in and now, why is that Jay?
Usually she was coming from a workout, oh, and had
on like like the nineteen eighty eight equivalent of Lululemon shorts.
And then Donnie Walsh would tip five dollars righteous bucks, right,

(41:49):
and so we would all line up because that was
the Krim de la Krem. And he would come in
there and we would all line up to do his
groceries because he tipped five dollars. And then in nineteen
eighty nine, when I was carrying out for him, I
asked him what he thought of Jay Edwards, who I
thought was the greatest basketball player in the history of basketball.
I still think that, and Donnie said he's probably a
second round pick. And I was so dejected and offended

(42:12):
and upset and heartbroken by hearing that about Indiana's all
American that I very calmly put the groceries in his
car and then refused to ever bag his groceries again.
I let everybody else get the five bucks because I'm like,
no I'm not going to bag for him. He's because
he you know, he thinks j Edwards is a second
round pick. Jay Edwards, by the way, second round pick,
played like six games in the NBA and then was done.

(42:34):
Speaking of the NBA, interesting report card about the pacers.
I want to get to I will so. I will
do so in just a couple of minutes. But the
other thing I was going to mention is in terms
of jobs that you had as a young person. So
I had Amalia's. I had a number of jobs. One
of them that I had was for two summers I
worked the beach stand at Rivy So the snack bar

(42:56):
at the Riviera Club, and that's where I became the
mice row of the now. And you think when I
say that I was a master at making the at
serving out the soft serve ice cream, you think to yourself, well,
there's nothing hard about that. But there is. If you
really want to do the proper aesthetics, beauty and towering
of a milkshake, there is a way to do it.

(43:16):
It's a finesse. It's a finesse. And you like, you
tell me the height and I can I can get
it that high, Like I'm that good at it. I'm
literally that good at it. Just so you know, pacers
a port card. We'll get into that discussion coming up.
So we have three Dog Night tickets and drop Kicking
Murphy tickets give away, Eddie, you would like to do

(43:38):
that when and how on this fine program. We'll do
it within the next couple hours, that's for sure, Jake,
within the next couple hours. Let me remind you that
this show has remaining in it just a couple hours.
But in those a couple remaining hours, we're gonna go
ahead and give away tickets.

Speaker 2 (43:53):
Well, Jake, if I've learned one thing for you, it's
the art of the tease. I can't tell them when
because next team, you know, we you know, somebody's just
catching it, catching the program.

Speaker 1 (44:05):
Meetec about this where they said, what we got to
do is we've got to entice people to continue listening
to the big program. That's right.

Speaker 2 (44:11):
If I just tell you, hey, we're going to give
these away at you know, twelve fifty three, you just
turned back in at twelve fifty three to figure out
how you'd win the tickets.

Speaker 1 (44:20):
Very fair, very fair major League Baseball over the weekend
or actually just the Baseball Hall of Fame. The Professional
Baseball Hall of Fame inducted its new class. Two things
that jumped out of me. I did not watch the
entire coverage of it. Number One, it really is a shame.
It's it's fabulous that he is in, don't get me wrong,

(44:42):
as he should be, but it really is a shame
that Dave Parker, you know, passed is and was not
there for that. But I think it was his son
or a family member that was there on his behalf.
It was an interesting Hall of Fame class because there
was nobody in it that like c. C. Sabathia, who
now like lost a bunch of like looks good lost

(45:04):
a way yeah right, almost didn't recognize ce Ce Sabathia.
You know, Dick Allen is a player that I think
was a really good player, but he just kind of
gets lost in He was not a an after era star,
if you will. The one thing that jumped out of
me is I'm like, when did Eachiro get old? I mean,
eachi Ro looked not old, but I mean and he

(45:26):
was an older player. I realized by Timan came over
and a fantastic player, but eachi Ro is one that
I'm like, whoa like? It looks like he retired like
twenty years ago. One thing to me, I had a
baseball epiphany that I was like Holy Cow. And it
puts a lot of things in perspective about how time

(45:47):
is undefeated. And I will get into that, and I
will issue a report card, or rather read one about
the Pacers that I found a little bit troubling because
it might be true. I'll do that. On the other
side we com back here, Mike Chap will just over
an hour from now, we'll get the latest on one quarterback,
perhaps today separating a little bit at the end of

(46:07):
colts practice. We'll get into that with Chap do so
two o'clock hour. It's quarrying company on the fan. Over
the weekend, I was in the Indie Car World, of course,
with the race in Monterey, Alex Plow getting the wind.
You heard me mention that off the top of the show,

(46:27):
and that was the Java World Grand Prix. It's I
got a great night's sleep, to be honest with you,
but I think I might be growing an addiction to
Java World. Not like Kramer with the Cafe lattes, but
like the Little the Little Poor instant beverage deal. Yo,

(46:52):
like really good. I think I'll join. I had some
peach tea, I did. Do you enjoy some peach tea? Yeah?
I'm telling you good stuff, very good stuff. The Baseball
Hall of Fame with their inductions this weekend one of
the things that struck me as interesting and I passed

(47:13):
it along only because it it put things into this
weird relative perspective. And I'm going to get to a
PACER's report card grade in just a second. But many
of you may remember, and even if you're my age,
you got to go kind of in the deep, deep,
deep part of your cerehbellum to remember this, because it

(47:36):
was it was like this almost like did that really happen?
Type thing. But when the RCA Dome then known as
the Hoosier Dome was built, they were trying to come
up with and there was certainly discussion and conversation about
Indianapolis becoming a major League baseball city, and Art and

(47:57):
Gotti had come up with the Indianapolis Arrows. They had
and they went pretty far into this. I mean, they
had sold some season tickets. They Harry Carey came here
on the circle and led a rally to talk about
how Indianapolis would be a great baseball town, which is
ironic because in the end, what really kind of did

(48:17):
in the efforts was a collaboration of I believe the
Cincinnati Reds, Saint Louis Cardinals, the White Sox, the Cubs
may have been one of them, the Tigers maybe, but
a number of teams basically said we don't want a
major League team in Indianapolis because we already have too
many Midwestern cities. And at that point the dream kind

(48:38):
of just vaporized, but as a test balloon as to
whether or not Indianapolis could in fact host baseball games.
When the Dome was first opened, they did a Major
League Baseball Old Timers Game and it was an old

(48:59):
timers game that and I'm trying to find the exact
date in which this took place, but the Old Timers
Game featured you know, stars of yesteryear, if you will,
And I think the reason they did it was to
try to get, you know, to find out whether or

(49:20):
not they could get Major League Baseball into the Dome
if that's where they needed to play. And it was
a disaster because they didn't. The stadium was not wide
enough and so there was like no left field line.
It just the dimensions of the dome were not good
for Major League Baseball. But in this old timers game
that took place, a couple of the key players that

(49:43):
were in the game, Henry Aaron was in it, and
Willie May's was in it, and I was I think
it was at nineteen eighty four. It was either eighty
four or eighty five, so I would have been like
twelve years old. And of course my dad is like, oh,
Willie May's, you know, the best five tool player of
all time center fielder, and you know Henry Aaron, the
all time home run leader. And I knew of those names,

(50:05):
and I knew of the obviously, I not just knew
of them. I mean they were giants within the sports
world at that time, but they were players from yesteryear.
They were players from I mean, Eddie, you're a baseball guy, right, Yeah.
When I say William Maids and Hank Karon, you know
who they are. But they are I'm not gonna say
dinosaurs and disrespect them, but from a long time ago, right, Yes,

(50:27):
you know what I mean. I mean, I don't know,
they are historical figures to you. Right, And they were
to me when I was twelve years old.

Speaker 2 (50:34):
Kind of like Walter Payton for me, at least historical
figure for me because I didn't get to see him play.

Speaker 1 (50:40):
Yeah, but I mean yes, but obviously, you know in
Peyton's terms, you know, those guys were even like one
half generation before that, right. But what's totally bizarre to
me is I looked it up and I'm like, Okay,
so the equivalent, the equivalent of Willie Mays and Hank

(51:09):
Aaron to today's twelve year old as it was for
me at twelve, would be like today if you had
an old Timers game and in that Old Timers game
you had King Griffy Junior and Chipper Jones. Like that's
how to a kid, that's how long ago even that
era of baseball was like each year old probably two kids,
feels like forever ago. And yet to me it's like,

(51:30):
I feel like he just retired, like you know, in March.
I know that wasn't the case, but I just thought
it was interesting because I'm like, man, I mean, father
time is undefeated. Time is just a NonStop warp and
I probably just made a lot of people feel really
old with that epiphany that I had. ESPN did a
report where they graded each NBA franchises off season. The

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Indiana Pacers are coming off of the finest sea from
a postseason standpoint in franchise history. They have never been
closer to a title. They were two quarters from one.
If you think about the fact they were leading at
the half of game number seven, and while that is

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so special and it's so right there in your fingertips,
it also feels so far away because you're like, man,
I mean, you really think you get excited for the
upcoming season, and then you're like, oh, wait a minute.
One projection projection has them at an over under of
thirty eight and a half in total of in terms

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of wins for this coming season. I think, personally, Eddie
thirty eight and a half with a lineup of Andernimhard,
Benedict Mathern, probably Jay Huff or Isaiah Jackson or James Wiseman,
Jaris Walker, ob Hoppin' Ben Shephard, trying to get Johnny Furfey.

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Who am I missing here? There's just oh Pascal Siakam
obviously aaron Ne Smith, right. Both those the last two
were at the Big Carre at four hundred. I don't
know if Pascal Siakam drove the pace car right. And
aaron E.

Speaker 2 (53:14):
Smith was incredibly upset about the about meeting a cookie Monster.
Oh really, Yeah, he was expecting more. It just wasn't
you know?

Speaker 1 (53:24):
He was disappointed that did he do an interview about it?
I saw a video of it. So aaron Ne Smith
wanted he was expecting more in meeting Cookie Monster? Yeah,
what more would you want? I don't know, Like is
cookie Monster, by the way is and I thought it
was fabulous. How Cookie Monster was the grand marshal of
the race. Is that because there is concern that Sesame

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Street could go away? Is that what that is? I
didn't know the exact tie in as to why Cookie
Monster was there. He said, my life is a lie
when he met Cookie Monster? Is it because did the case?
Kids are listening, I'm going to speak cryptically. Here was
the gentleman who would be Cookie Monster's assistant? Was he

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with him the whole time? Was it was he visibly there? Yes?

Speaker 2 (54:11):
Because this was I don't know where they were at.
Looks like they were just like on the go to plaza.
Oh yeah, I don't know. It's almost like behind scenes.
I'm not one hundredercent sure where they were at.

Speaker 1 (54:26):
You would have a better idea. I would, because you know,
if you really look closely, As much as I hate
to say it and again but I will simply put
it in cryptic terms, if you really look closely, you
never really noticed that Kermit the frog has very wiry arms. Yeah,
if you look closely. And that's a bit disturbing to
notice that. Right, there's a fella that was very close

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with Big Bird. But the fella that was very close
to Big Bird was close to him because behind the scenes,
for Big Bird, he pulled a lot of strings to
get to know him well. And that also is like, oh, oh, okay,
you know, but it is it is what it is, right.
But the Pacers over under Eddie, what would you put

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it for this coming season? I would put it out
forty and a half. I would tend to agree with that.
I think they I think the Pacers went from obviously
being you know what, we we look at it and
we say, okay, I mean they were a title contender,

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and now you look at Indiana and it feels like
they slide into like a six to eight seed.

Speaker 2 (55:36):
You can already tell just based off of what TJ.
McConnell put in the players tribute that these that's another
player for that to mention it. These guys are very
and Rick Carlisle as well during that interview he did
with I Forget the Name of the the green Light
podcast with Chris Long that he was very aware of
what people right as was McConnell, of how people are

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anticipating in the pace they think there's gonna be like
this dramatic drop off and play like they're going to
be a team that's bottom five in the league, whereas
you know they believe they're still a playoff team.

Speaker 1 (56:07):
I mean what they lost, and that's what I want
to get to. The report card that was given by ESPN.
It rated the Indiana Pacers off season. What grade would
you give it? What grade would you give Eddie the
off season of the Indiana Pacers. It's a good question

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because there are two ways to look at it. There
are the way that they responded or just overall what happened.
How teams fared is how it's graded. The off season grades.
How teams fared in the off season.

Speaker 2 (56:53):
Oh, they're grades, They're not like fair food items.

Speaker 1 (56:57):
That's right. Graded A through F. You would put them
where B really I would. Okay, so you're going to
give the Pacers a bee as in boy right, Yeah,

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I'm not a big plus minus guy. I just go
with the letter. It's possible. I'm gonna read to you
what is written here. It's possible we'll look back and
think the Pacers were better off not paying Miles Turner
through his mid thirties, But there are no banners for
fiscal responsibility in Indiana. Loss to key Peace to a
starting five that relied more unfit than sheer talent. The

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Pacers have no clear replacement for Turner, Although I liked
taking a flyer on Jay Huff, who has a similar
skill set, Expecting him to start after falling out of Memphis'
playoff rotation is unrealistic. Indiana's other traditional centers, Tony Bradley,
Isaiah Jackson, and James Wiseman, are also career backups that
riding on ESPN dot com. Kevin Pelton, Okay, now he

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gives them a grade of a D. I think that's
a little bit harsh, And I'll tell you why. As
the dust is settled and as we have gotten just
to kind of know a little more background. The Miles
Turner thing continues to be peculiar, and I say that

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because it is true. I am confident in saying that
I can verify that the Pacers did not get an
opportunity to match. So when they went to the table
sitting down with Miles Turner, Indiana had a number in mind.
They threw that number out. They were well willing to
go beyond that number. They were well willing to go

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deep into the tax. Maybe not to the second apron,
but they were willing to go into the luxury tax.
Any insinuation that the Indiana Pacers were trying to be
fiscally responsible in offering Miles Turner are not accurate. They
were willing to go beyond what it was that they
initially offered. But there's a reason they call it negotiations.
What they did not know or anticipate was that Milwaukee

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had that offer. And Milwaukee said to Miles Turner, we
are offering this to you one time, and you you
can take this offer, but if you go back and
use this for leverage for Indiana, then it's off the board.
It's gone. It's a what you We are not giving

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you the opportunity. Here is the offer, and you sign
it right now or it's gone. And so Turner saw
that and then for the reasons we talked about, decided
to take it. I think the bigger concern for Indiana,
or the bigger question that you have to ask that
we may never know the answer to, is what is

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it about the pay or the experience here that led
Miles Turner to just go ahead and say, you know what, good,
let's go. I'm good with it, let's go. As opposed
to no, I want to go back to that. But again,
there is a lot of history with Turner and the
you know, transactional history, and I think Miles Turner may

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well that offered to DeAndre Ayton may have still been
in the back of his mind, whatever it may be.
The thing that is peculiar is that Turner, you know,
changing his number and not having a lot of contact.
What is it that led And we may never know
that answer. But Indiana was in a situation, in a
position there that I don't know frankly how much in

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the vacuum they could have controlled. What needs to then
be assessed and evaluated is I understand the thought process
from people that Miles Turner, statistically speaking, was not worth
the money that was being anticipated, And if you look
at it, you say, statistically he was easy to replace.

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But what he does as a facilitator for the offense
they run was so critically important in terms of that
high post. Basically, he's the guy that everything went through.
I know that Halliburton is the point guard or nim
Hard when he's running point, but the ball goes to
Turner and then everything all of a sudden, filtrates through there.

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He was their filter and not Jay Huff may be
able to do that. Isaiah Jackson may be able to
do that, but and Jay Huff I think has the
ability to shoot the basketball. But the vision and the
immediate reactionary passing is what was so important. And so
losing him is such that I understand the grade of

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a D. How they responded to it is actually a
different grade. And that grade is probably like the ones
that I took a ton of in college, which was,
for example, I had motto in college. Did you ever
get mono?

Speaker 7 (01:02:04):
Eddie?

Speaker 1 (01:02:04):
Nope? Makes sense. It's the kissing disease.

Speaker 2 (01:02:08):
Right, Oh okay, okay.

Speaker 1 (01:02:11):
Okay, So when I got mono, I mean it was
like Modo is a great diet plan, Like I mean,
I slept it was unbelievable.

Speaker 2 (01:02:18):
I think that says more about you than me, Jake.

Speaker 1 (01:02:20):
I think so, uh, I got Mono and slept like
eighteen hours a day and I ended up having to
take several classes. As an incomplete, I think there's a
word that I can use to describe you play Uh. Hey,
you think so I was a late developer, Sure I was.
I was a late developer. I was a late bloomer
in that in the aspect of that, but nonetheless I

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had a lot of incompletes. And I think the Pacers grade,
truthfully is an incomplete. I know you want to give
it a D in terms of how they fared in
the off season, but how they fared in the off
season oftentimes it's not what happens to you as an athlete.
It's not what happens to you really in life. It's
how you respond to it. And we may never know.

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It is entirely possible that the Pacers are in the
position they're in at the center position because of something
that they did or did not foresee regarding Miles Turner,
and maybe they should have had better understanding of that,
or better approach of that, or better initial outreach than that.
But either way, when Miles Turner did what essentially was

(01:03:26):
a blindside move against them, it was not that adversity
that came their way. It's the how you react and
respond to it. And Jay Huff, if he is a
guy that can play even a fraction of what Miles
Turner did, that's going to help them. He's going to
get plenty of opportunity this year to get increased minutes

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and show whether or not he is the next Aaron Nesmith.
And by that I mean a guy that was cast
off at his first stop, gets a second lease and
then all of a sudden everything comes his way. We'll see.

Speaker 2 (01:04:00):
I do want to point out as to why I
gave them a bee jake. You just reference the reaction
to the Turner loss, and to compound that with the
Tyrese Haliburn injury. You didn't see the Pacers panic like
they stay true to what they are and what they've
been doing. They didn't go out and try to frantically
sign somebody to replace Tyres or to come in and

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ruffle the feathers up with this group. And I feel
like they have the utmost trust in Rick Carlisle and
the guys on the roster to pick up the slack
of where Tyrese is going to be out and on
the Turner side of things, This may be crazy to
me to think, Jake, but I think there's a way
that this Pacers team can be better defensively without Myles Turner.

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Because for Turner's rim protection that he did bring, he
did struggle in terms of being out on the perimeter
when it comes to switching and pick and rolls on
that type of things, and giving up a lot of
drives to the basket and to put the Pacers in
precarious defensive position.

Speaker 1 (01:05:02):
And he certainly struggled in you know, certainly in the
finals obviously in terms of low post play. Right. But again,
and I get all that, Eddie, there were there were
definitely vulnerabilities. But I still think that what he brought
in terms of the facilitator for the way that they
run that offense and that high weave is very important,
and I think it's very rare. There's a reason Milwaukee.

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I think Milwaukee ninety five percent of why Milwaukee went
after Turner the way they did is because of the
skill set he has that is very unique. And then
five percent of it is because those two franchises hate
each other.

Speaker 2 (01:05:36):
He's a young brook Lopez like he is going to
be Brooke Lopez for them.

Speaker 1 (01:05:40):
Yeah. Brook Lopez, by the way, runs funny. Have you
ever noticed that? Yeah, he runs. Brook Lopez runs like
he lowers his like he runs like he's hiding. And
then he also runs like he's headed to the portalette.
Have you noticed that? Yes, honestly, like it's very weird.
He does kind of like the penguin trot right when

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he runs. It's like you're.

Speaker 2 (01:06:05):
I don't even know. It's like you've got like the
mat on the water out at the lake or something,
and you're trying to run on it. Yes, and you're
just trying to not fall over. Yes, that's what it
looks like.

Speaker 1 (01:06:14):
It does. Good player, good shooter. And you're right. I
mean maybe that is where they see or what they
anticipate seeing out of him in terms of seeing by
the way colts camp out there earlier today, Let's get
you caught up on what took place today. What did
take place? Is this at the quarterback battle Anthony Richardson
and I said this off the top of the show.

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I truly believe this. If Daniel Jones becomes the starter
for the Colts, it is not going to be because
Daniel Jones won the job outright. It is going to
be because Anthony Richardson lost it because I think they
are still in the back of their mind Richardson is
tantalizing enough and they have enough invested in him. Yes,

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I know they gave Jones thirteen million, but it's a
one year free agent contract and everybody knows it's kind
of a flyer with Richardson with what you have invested,
both in terms of finance and you know the draft
pick in general, drafting him where they did he is.
They still need him to work out, and today he

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had a good day. He was six of six today.
I made the joke that he came out and immediately
threw one into the ground. I think he was joking around,
but six of six in their final drives, I should say,
towards the end of camp, closing things out for the day,
Richardson got in rhythm and that's what you need. They ran.
I was mentioning that they did this drill where they

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had all of the quarterbacks lined up behind the center
like you know him in the backfield, and then they
lined up all of the tight ends and think about
the the Pacers offense, as I mentioned, when Myles Turner
is up on the high post and then you've got
all of everybody's just running round like circularly around that

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three point circle and they're just distributing the ball around
and that sprinkler system essentially, they were kind of doing
that with the quarterbacks. So tight ends were lining up
or receivers and running a slant and the quarterback's job
was to come up quickly and then boom, catch and throw,
catch and throw from the It wasn't even a snap,
it was a toss over to them, catch and throw,

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and they were testing the rhythm and the pacing and
trying to create Shane Stike and has talked about that
frantic nature of what they think they need to do
a better job with that frantic nature of it. And
when they were doing that, Richardson was very and this
is what you need him to be. He was accurate,
and he was in rhythm in that particular offense and

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that drill and that's what you need, that's what you
need for him to be because that's what Shane styke
In wants is not only a command of the frantic
but Richard Nobody has questioned that Richardson could throw that
forty five yard out to Alec Pierce behind the defense.
It's those throws, the routine twelve to twenty yard pass

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or six to twelve yard pass. More so that you
need from him. The layups, the layups, and he hit
them today. Now that's the first time I think that
we have seen exhibit of okay, he's look at what
a day he had. Over the course of the weekend

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and through the first week of camp. I think it's
all been fairly averages the wrong word. But nothing from
either one of them really jumps out at you pedestrian pedestrian.
Neither one of them has wowed anybody, And if both
of them, it is my belief. I still think Daniel
Jones is going to be the starter, and I think

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that only because I think Richardson is going to do
things whether it just don't have that trust. But neither
one of them so far has done something where you've said, okay,
there it is. I mean that guy has that's the difference.

Speaker 2 (01:10:11):
You think it's just time getting back on the practice field.
It's hard to say because they're not out there very long.
It's true, That's why I say that.

Speaker 1 (01:10:18):
And JJ Watt I thought, you know, Chris Widlock today
made a really interesting point. Chris Woodlock, who's at CBS four,
we are standing there talking. He made a really good point,
and he said, Jake, there's a reason why the first
week or two in the NFL it is so hard

(01:10:39):
to gauge. Even still, who is where It's hard to gauge.
You know, there's always overreaction Monday in the NFL of
oh my gosh, Arizona is unbelievable. And did you see
the Chiefs? The end is there, They're done. They look terrible.
You get a lot of that and week one and

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maybe even week two. And Widlick said to me, he said,
if you go back to the old school, you know,
Rick Vancury was out there today. If you go back
to when Rick Vancury was coaching, how was the coach
doing good? His grandson, my buddy Jason's son is apparently
a really good player. Oh good. And so we were
talking about that. He was super excited about that, but

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also realistic because he's a young kid. But he was good.
And so when we were sitting there talking, Wood looks
like they practice for an hour. And we are from
the old school, like the Rick Vanury era, where guys
had two a days for two and a half hours
each and five hours. I mean back in my day,
you know, guys out there for seven hours. It probably
wasn't that, but in your mind you think that, right

(01:11:45):
that it was just junction boys all the time. There's
one garden hose out there, and go grab it and
get back in line and let's go. We got more,
you know, man on Mandrel's lywing your back, stand up
and pop a guy. I mean all that, and it's
different now. JJ Watt said it. He's like, look, don't
get super excited on what you're seeing from plays in
camp because you just don't know what's being worked on.

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And Widlock was saying in the first two weeks of
the season, it is difficult to know exactly how good
teams are because they are using even regular season games
now to even for themselves feel things out and learn
because they haven't been able to do it in camp
because they don't have the number of reps. And I

(01:12:29):
understand it. I understand it's an NFLPA thing, and it's
probably a health thing and a preservation a body thing.
I get all that, totally understand it. But it is
a different time now where we go further into the
end of camp and into the regular sea in through
preseason and even into the regular season, where we truly

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know where teams are and who is what now that
it's a really good point because I just was saying
to him, like, don't you remember back in the day,
and we'd be out here for in Tara drive over
to Tara Hate and it was worth the two hour long,
two hour round trip commute, two and a half hour
round trip commute because you knew that you were going

(01:13:12):
to be there to watch a three hour practice and
then maybe even a second practice in the evening. And yes,
this might be to keep guys healthy or Maji maybe
that guys are just like, yeah, I don't want to
go out there and practice that much. And I guess
if you can get away with it, then then make
the change, then do it. But it's still hard to
know where things are. But as of today, good day

(01:13:33):
for Anthony Richardson Good Day yesterday at the Indianapois Motor speedway.
I want to get back into that and we will
give away tickets. Which one are we going to give
away first, Eddie? We'll have to tune in and find out, Jake,
all right, we'll do it next. So I assume that
means you are going with Three Dog Night first for
the tickets that we'll give away, correct, Eddie, that is accurate,
and you would like to do that in what fashion?

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You know?

Speaker 2 (01:13:56):
It's highly requested Jake, and oh so popular, especially with
the kids. I think we do a little get to
your neural listener, all.

Speaker 1 (01:14:04):
Right, get to know your listener. What number caller are
we going with here? So are we doing both? We
have two four packs to give away here, we could
do that, We could do that, knock them out right. Yeah.
This is going to be at the Great Indiana State Fair, correct.

Speaker 2 (01:14:17):
Yes, on Friday. So if you're somebody who likes to
be at the fair and you're there and you want
to be there all dayay, be there all day. Start
by the dairy bar, visit yourself. Watch three Dog nine
at the stage there who's a lottery stage.

Speaker 1 (01:14:31):
So the telephone number, of course for this fabulous opportunity
is two three nine one zero seven zero, correct, Yes,
it would be two three nine ten seventy. You know
this radio station used to be on ten seventy. That's
why it's two three nine ten seventy. But now, of
course we are on ninety three five and one oh
seven five the fan and we will get to the

(01:14:53):
get to know your listener here in just a minute.
I mentioned the FA that yesterday something happened at the
Indianapolis Motor Speedway, and I mentioned it earlier off the
top of the show about the history of what took
place yesterday. Bubba Wallace winning the Brickyard four hundred is significant. Now,

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he is not the first person of color to win
a race at the Indianapolis Motor Speedway. Lewis Hamilton did
that with the US Grand Prix in two thousand and seven.
He is the first African American. And yes, you could
say that, well, Jake, that's you're getting way too into
the weeds here and nuancing that fact. I understand that.
But the reason it is significant is because he's the

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first person of color to win on the oval, or
at least I shouldn't say person of color, because you
have obviously, like Takumisato, if you wanted to say that
from Japan. But the first African American to win on
the oval at the historic Indianapolis Motor Speedway. You know,
there have been minorities in different areas, different ethnicities to
win there. But I actually and I thought a lot

(01:15:59):
about this, and I'm going to read Pete what I
said earlier before we get in. You gets to know
your listener. I had said earlier that I as I
watched Bubba Wallace win that race, I thought to myself,
how great is it that we have reached a point
where the fact that he is the first African American
to win on the oval at IMS is like a footnote,

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not worth mentioning because he's an accomplished driver. He's been
around for a while now, he has multiple wins within
the NASCAR you know schedule in history. He by getting
that win, he's now in the playoffs for this year.
So he is an accomplished guy. This was not some
anomaly one off that won. And he also Bubba Wallace

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in winning that race. He won that race. He had
to hold off arguably the best one of the best
oval drivers in a stock car of the last quarter
century in Kyle Larson at a race where in a
place that Kyle Larson knows as well as anybody, and
Bubba Wallace, trying to conserve fuel and juggling all of

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those things going into overtime, was able to get that
win and hold off Kyle Larson. Legitimately, that was a
He won that race. And I thought to myself, there's
your story. And then I thought about something Willy t
Ribbs said when he went to qualify in nineteen ninety one,

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and Willy t Ribbs when he went out to qualify
in nineteen ninety one for the Indy five hundred, not
that long ago, relatively speaking, and when Willi t Ribbs
went out to qualify, he said that as he was
leaving Pitt Road, all the USAC workers were lined up
and there was an older black gentleman saluting Willy t
Ribbs who was crying. And Willy t Ribbs said, I

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knew then trying to become the first black driver to
qualify for the Indy five hundred. I didn't want to
look at him because I was afraid I would cry too,
because I knew the magnitude of the moment. And so
you can say to yourself, well, there it is that's
the moment, So boom, that's the moment. That's the history,
not yesterday except for this. The reason that man was

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crying was because if he was a USAK worker, he
knew the history. You know. He knew of Joey Ray,
who began racing in nineteen forty seven and raced sprints
and raced midgets and raced all of it, and ultimately
got a chance to race in the American Automobile Association,

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the precursor to USAK, in nineteen forty nine and raced
in nineteen forty nine. But he knew that Joey Ray,
who dreamed of running at the Indianapolis five hundred early
in his career because of sanctioning rules and the fact
that he was black, would have been a challenge for him.
And then from a sponsorship standpoint, even though Joey Ray

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had the opportunity to potentially have a ride for the
Indianapolis five hundred in through into the early fifties, was
never able to cement the proper sponsorship to do so.
Was that race related? I don't know. I wasn't there then,
but I can make assumption because that was only a
quarter century removed from when Black drivers in this country

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had to start the Colored Speedway Association because they were
not allowed to race in races with white drivers, so
they had their own series that they started in nineteen
twenty four. And then you think about individuals like Charlie Wiggins,
who was a mechanic that could fix anything, but was
born in the wrong time in Evansville and an era

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as a black man where he couldn't work as a
mechanic for a number of different opportunities, so he himself
had to turn a wrench even though he was one
of the best of the era for black drivers, but
didn't necessarily always get to compete with in what he
was working on against the best. And yes, it is

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true that eventually Joey Ray got an opportunity within NASCAR,
but by then Wendell Scott had already broken that color
barrier in Jacksonville in nineteen sixty three. So Bubba Wallace
didn't do anything from a NASCAR standpoint, He didn't do
anything from that standpoint of driver that was unique or new.

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Unique maybe, but not new. But in terms of the
Indianapolis Motor Speedway, the reason it should be pointed out
and the reason why it was significant that Bubba Wallace
won is because the Indianapolis Motor Speedway is the most
historic venue in auto racing in the world in my opinion,
but certainly in North America. And you talk about the
heritage and the history, and when you think about it,

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you think about men that wept just to see Willie
t Ribbs or later George Mack qualify there because they
know the history of how so many were denied that opportunity,
not even by the Indianapolis Motor Speedway, but by the
sanctioning bodies that were facilitating for racing there. And so

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the ultimate form of racing is competition, the ultimate backbone,
I should say, of racing as competition, and competition means
that getting there is one thing, but you always want
to win. And so for Joey Ray, and for Charlie Wiggins,
and for Wendell Scott, and for Willie t Ribbs and
for others, for them to see not just that someone

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was able to break a barrier to qualify for the race,
and that was not the case of a barrier for
Bubba Wallace, but to actually win at that place and
be able to then see that there is now a
greater history than just a man weeping by watching another
man qualify because they can say that someone won the

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race that climbed that ultimate mountaintop. To me, it is
that group. It is that sentiment that gets to determine
whether or not it was significant. It is not I.
And so once I thought about it and thought about
the history of it, I realized that I was naive
and I was arrogant to think that I got to
determine whether or not that footnote in history was worth mentioning.

(01:22:19):
And I think it is. And it also should be
mentioned that Bubba Wallace won that race. He was not
gifted that race. It was not a fluke circumstance. He
dominated that race and when it came down to it,
he held off one of the best of his era
and the best of many eras in Kyle Larson. So
kudos and congratulations to it. All right, three dog Night

(01:22:40):
tickets to give away Forget to Know your listener, Eddie.
Who do we have lined up? Amanda? Amanda? Now, Amanda,
you've called the program before, right, Please say no, because
I'm hoping that that means that we have above now
female listener number twenty one. I'm assuming Amanda is a female. Correct? Okay, Amanda?
Have you called the show before?

Speaker 8 (01:23:02):
Not since the Quarian?

Speaker 1 (01:23:05):
Okay, Bengo. So there we go. Twenty two, baby, Amanda,
you are female listener number twenty two. We have verification
now twenty two female listeners. I love every single minute
of it, Amanda. If I could real quickly a little
get to know your listener? Are you ready?

Speaker 8 (01:23:19):
I am?

Speaker 1 (01:23:20):
I'd like to know this. Whose car did you borrow
today that made you have to listen to this radio show?

Speaker 5 (01:23:27):
Today was my first.

Speaker 8 (01:23:28):
Day back to work after my summer break.

Speaker 1 (01:23:32):
Oh really, does that mean, Amanda, that you might be
I'm just gadget guessing here an educator, I am. In
what grade do you teach, Amanda?

Speaker 8 (01:23:41):
I teach high school?

Speaker 1 (01:23:43):
High school? Okay? So in what subject?

Speaker 8 (01:23:47):
Special education? Windlow vision, multiple disabilities?

Speaker 1 (01:23:51):
Amanda? You're a Saint is New Orleans your favorite football team?
It should because you're a Saint. Right? No, you're a
cult stand I believe Blue and White? Okay, Amanda? You
you received your your education yourself was received at what
is the last school that you attended?

Speaker 8 (01:24:09):
Uh? Bachelor's degree?

Speaker 5 (01:24:12):
Both stay?

Speaker 8 (01:24:13):
All my licenses after that? Indiana State?

Speaker 1 (01:24:17):
Okay for the Indiana Teachers College it was initially known,
right yep. Okay, so Friday night, since this is this
is your first week back at school, right now, when
do the kids come.

Speaker 8 (01:24:26):
Back Monday week from today?

Speaker 1 (01:24:30):
Okay, so you got a week of preparation where basically
you guys all sit around and game plan everything and
get you're getting used to getting up early is what
you're doing, right, and then you come back and Monday
things start for real. Right. You're in training camp right now,
one hour day practice like the culture in training camp.

Speaker 7 (01:24:44):
Right absolutely?

Speaker 1 (01:24:46):
Okay, Well, we would like for that training camp for
you at the end of week one to include going
to the Great Indiana State Fair to see three dog Nights.
So we will hook you up, Amanda, with one of
the prize packs. I appreciate you listening to this program,
even if it's only because you were in the car
today on your way to work. But I always appreciate
the fact that you are female listener number twenty two. Amanda, Well, I.

Speaker 8 (01:25:05):
Do listen to the podcast on my not on my
lunch break, but after work so and when I'm doing
my part time jobs, so I still listen to the programs.

Speaker 1 (01:25:14):
It's not lie now, Amanda, let me ask you. Do
you find me folksy? People tell me they find me folksy?
Do you think I'm folksy?

Speaker 8 (01:25:20):
Yes? And the yeah, you and I are very similar.
We have a lot of similar interests in the in
the squirrels that just pop out of your mouth and
get off subject yet very much so.

Speaker 1 (01:25:33):
You're also quirky, is what you're getting at? Right?

Speaker 7 (01:25:36):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:25:37):
All right, all right, Amana. I appreciate it. Enjoy the
concert coming up on Friday, and thank you so much
for listening. Eddie? Who is that is female listener number
twenty two? Who is participant number two? Here in our game,
let's go with Troy Troy? What's up?

Speaker 4 (01:25:53):
Hey?

Speaker 5 (01:25:53):
What's going on?

Speaker 7 (01:25:54):
Jake?

Speaker 1 (01:25:54):
Now? Troy, you sound very calm. Did you just take
a nap?

Speaker 6 (01:25:58):
Oh?

Speaker 7 (01:25:58):
I wish I could take it?

Speaker 1 (01:25:59):
N But no, are you working today? You at school?
What are you doing in Troy? Where do we find
you working?

Speaker 8 (01:26:05):
Sir?

Speaker 1 (01:26:05):
Working? Okay? And what line of work are you in Troy?
I'm in the quality safety belt, quality safety okay. And
since you're at work right now, are you like hiding
under your desk and nobody knows that you're actually calling
a radio show during work. Yeah, you might call it that, Troy.
Have you called the show before? I have not? Okay,

(01:26:26):
first time call it of the program, Yes, sir, obviously
I mean that good deduction there by me. Okay, Troy,
if you don't mind me asking, here's our get to
know your listener that we're going to do real quick.
The first question would be this, you graduated from high
school in what year?

Speaker 2 (01:26:37):
Troy?

Speaker 1 (01:26:40):
Ninety two? So that would put you and I'd assume
you just celebrated a fiftieth birthday of late that or
you have one coming up right, Yeah, I had one
in April. Okay, And Troy, when you were in high school,
the arch rival of your high school was Witch, So
don't tell me your school, but tell me rather the
one that you just couldn't.

Speaker 7 (01:26:55):
Stand, probably Southeastern.

Speaker 1 (01:27:00):
So now I don't think Fisher's High School was around
in ninety two. I'm going to guess that you went
to Noblesville High School.

Speaker 4 (01:27:06):
No close though, Carmel, Westfield.

Speaker 1 (01:27:10):
Westfield, Okay, the Shamrocks and back then Westfield if I'm
not mistaken. Twenty eight kids total in the school back
in nineteen ninety two, right, my class one hundred and
six A one hundred and six and now it's like
seven hundred probably right. Oh oh easy, okay, Troy. Last
question for you is this if you could pick if
you were walking down the street and our friend Robin
the Genie all of a sudden popped out of a

(01:27:30):
bottle right in front of you, and Robin told you
because he just was feeling like he was in a
good mood that day that he had that's right, he
says to you. He says, that is right, Toy. I
have the ability to make any team win a championship
in their next season. What team would you pick, not
based on the one that you think is going to win,
but the one that Troy would most want to see
win a championship, And because Robin the Genie is going

(01:27:53):
to extend that offer, you would actually pick this team
because it's the one that would make you the happiest
any sport, any level.

Speaker 2 (01:27:59):
Who believe it or not, them, I have to go
with the Colt The.

Speaker 1 (01:28:04):
Colts, all right, So you'd rather see the Colts win
the Super Bowl than see the Pacers win the NBA title.

Speaker 7 (01:28:09):
I that's the toast, though I say I'm a little
bit more of a Colts fan than a fan.

Speaker 1 (01:28:15):
You have owned how many Colts jerseys in your lifetime? Troy?
What give me the number of players that you have
owned a jersey from.

Speaker 2 (01:28:22):
I've owned at least.

Speaker 1 (01:28:23):
Eight eight whoa, Okay, you got a Peyton Manning one right, Yes,
you got a Reggie Wayne, You got a Marvin Harrison Harrison,
you got a Dwight Freeny. No, you got an edge yep,
got to Andrew Locke. Yes, still have it?

Speaker 4 (01:28:39):
Still have it?

Speaker 1 (01:28:40):
Didn't burn it? Did it? Okay? Good h And then lastly,
I'm gonna I'm gonna say that there's an outlier here
and a weird one here. And the fact that you
went out and you bought the hype and you bought
yourself either a Matt Ryan or a Carson Wentz jersey.
I did not do either. Anthony Richardson, not yet. Jonathan Taylor, Yeah, okay,

(01:29:01):
Jonathan Taylor. I knew there had to be a current one.
All right, Troy. I appreciate you participating in our game.
Get to know your listener. We will get you the
tickets and send you on your way and say hi
to Amanda while you're out there. By the way. Mike
chapel By the way joining US fourteen from now, Mike
Chapel coming up. It's about ten minutes from now, talking
about Colts Camp and the events of the day, which

(01:29:27):
again I mean the one good news I guess bit
of good news is it was not near as warm
and so far has not been yet today as was anticipated.
I mean, I think tomorrow is prognosticated, or thought to
be prognastic, probably the wrong word. Tomorrow is forecast to
be pretty rough, pretty rough tomorrow, just in terms of
the Somebody pointed this out to me, and I was

(01:29:50):
unfamiliar with this beforehand. I guess, is there some deal
with humidity and then all the corn is sweating? There's
some sort of corn sweat phenomenon where it's so hot
that even the stalks of corner sweating and that's creating
even more heat. Do I have this correct? I would
set the article and I didn't get a chance to
like totally read through it. This apparently is a big

(01:30:11):
deal in Missouri or Missouri as they say there, what
is corn sweat and how does it exacerbate heat waves?
I find this fascinating. A phenomenon called corn corn sweat,
and listen, we got a lot of corn here, right,
maybe not in Marion County, we're certainly surrounded by it.

(01:30:33):
The scientific term of evapo transportation or transpiration. Evapo transpiration
the natural process by which plants move water from the
roots of the plant to the surface photosynthesisto. This is
all this is all developed from Ohio State, and in
this article it says Ohio State University, not the Ohio

(01:30:56):
State University. So I don't know how much we can
actually take this into being legitimate.

Speaker 2 (01:31:00):
We get that reference that I just made, so it's okay,
I get it.

Speaker 1 (01:31:04):
Okay. The term refers to the amount of moisture, the
humidity and the plants that they take from the soil
to cool off. So I guess basically what happens is
plants are taking moisture out of the atmosphere and then
spitting it back out and making things more humid. Is
that right. It's a positive thing for the crop, allowing

(01:31:26):
it to cool off, but it's making things hotter. And
then you also have and I think this is taking
place down in Florida. Isn't there also a problem And
I'm not making light of this, I'm being serious. Aren't
there certain coastlines where people can get sick, and I
don't mean like deathly ill, but you get like a
cold or flu like symptoms from algae be news to me.

(01:31:52):
And aren't there like lakes where there's like algae content
and you can't go out on the lake would be
news to me. I think that's right, though the red Tide,
is that what it's called the red Tide? I think
that's right. But I'd like to know. Now here's the
thing I know about sweet corn. What happens If sweet
corn is the one sweating, then what do you get

(01:32:15):
actually sweet sweet corn sweat? Then that gets confusing, right
or is it sweat of sweet corn? At a state fair?
Are they going to have sweated sweet corn that you
can buy, because that's one of the things one of
my favorite things to get is to walk around and
get the big thing of the ira a corn. Right,
you got to get the ira corn, some sweaty corn. Yeah.

(01:32:35):
So I guess they're taking moisture out and they're spinning
it up. They're spinning it up, is what they're doing.
They're taking moisture and then they're spinning it back up,
and they're spinning it back in the atmosphere and to
gets even more human. But so far today so we
had rain? Was it overnight? Because when I got up
this morning there was water everywhere?

Speaker 2 (01:32:50):
Well, when'd you get up? Because it was thunderstorming until
probably nine o'clock.

Speaker 1 (01:32:57):
Okay, I got on the south side here, I got
up right around nine, got up, got ready, went to
the colts camp up in Grand Park and Westfield.

Speaker 2 (01:33:07):
Made sure Jones to tell me that that was storming outside.

Speaker 1 (01:33:11):
What's that?

Speaker 2 (01:33:11):
Yogi made sure to tell me it was storming outside.

Speaker 1 (01:33:13):
Ye, dogs don't like don't like the storms. Joey could
care less. Now when I came in, that's a dog, yeah,
or a cat.

Speaker 2 (01:33:21):
Joey's the dog, Yogi's the dog. The cat is the child.

Speaker 1 (01:33:25):
That's right, okay? Now when I when I came in today,
so I got up, prepared, went to colts camp. Talked
to Jalen Jones. That interview available podcast form one oh
seven to five of the fan dot Com. Jalen Jones,
who was in that battle with you know, Justin Walley,
notably Juju Brents as well at the corner position, and
he talked about how he feels like he's got a

(01:33:47):
pretty good hold on the lou An Aromo defense and
that he feels like as a unit, they do. But
I did that interview at the end of camp because
they're done. Colt's camp today got done about eleven thirty.
By eleven forty five to twelve o'clock, it's it's empty.
There's literally no one at Grand Park. The other day

(01:34:10):
when I was there, I think I mentioned the guy
mowing the lawn pulled a forest gump. When Jenny shows up,
he just hopped off the tractor like midfield and just
walked off. And I'm like, I don't know if his
if his big chopper thing like just got too hot
and overheated, or if he got overheated, or what happened. Now,
the rooster that lives over near Grand Park is still

(01:34:30):
there and he's doing his rooster stuff. And by that
I mean simply the you.

Speaker 2 (01:34:36):
Know, you know he's Remember when you were doing the
show in the morning with Kevin and there was the
grass clippings, yes situation. Yes see, Now that you're not there,
we don't know who the culprit is. We don't know
what animal.

Speaker 1 (01:34:51):
Left his I believe we determined that was a coy
territory that was Kyodie dung Ok pretty sure, but the
rooster was there and I and I was there the
other day and that was it. So we did the
interview with Jalen Jones and then I came back here
to do the rest of the show in studio just
because it's there's no one there and it's obviously it
was supposed to be very hot, and I think tomorrow
I will be there for the totality. But what I

(01:35:13):
find interesting is even in the outdoor, and it was
not bad this morning because I think that moisture which
now I'm assuming that it's a little soupy outside, but
it wasn't terrible. And then I got my way back
into studio and I walked in. Eddie made the comment
that my cologne is too strong today, but I didn't
put coloone on today. This is just part of the

(01:35:37):
six step totally neurotic compulsive showering that I do. I
have three different soaps and then three different sometimes two,
but often three rinses that I use. And you're saying
that I overdid it. Are you getting nauseous? Light headed? No?

Speaker 2 (01:35:55):
At first I was. It was like a headache that
was coming on, and then next thing you know, you
move over there and it's just like, oh, okay, thank goodness.

Speaker 1 (01:36:04):
So you're used to it now. But so this is
my natural scent and aroma. You know what it is.
It's the corn sweat, that's what it is. I'm like
a stalk. I'm like an iro a corn. It's just
the corn sweat. That's what you're smoking. And it's sweet.
I'm a sweet corn sweater. That's what I am. I'm
a sweet corn sweater. I mean, it's just the way
it works. Mike Chapel, by the way, was Mike Chapel
the fashionable Mike Chapel? The fashionable Mike Chapel. You know

(01:36:27):
why he's the fashionable Mike Chapel.

Speaker 2 (01:36:29):
Eddie, Well, he's got he's up to date with all
the styles, Jake.

Speaker 1 (01:36:33):
Including what he was wearing today, fashionably speaking. He's going
to join us next and I'll tell you what it was. Apparently,
this corn sweat deal. Every plant does it, Jake. Every
plant on Earth pulls in water from the soil that
releases water vapor back into the atmosphere through the process
of transpiration. It's part of the water cycle. Well, then,
what are we making a big deal about the corn

(01:36:53):
sweating for if everybody does it, why is corn getting
a bad rap they're doing everybody else does? If every
other plant just jump off a bridge, would Corn go
do it to? Also? Do you happen to have the
breaking news sounder? This just in from Connie Jake just

(01:37:13):
wanted to wanted you to know. I'm female listener number
twenty three. I love it when you go off topic.
I was recently diagnosed with ADHD at the age of
fifty two. My husband swears that's why I love your show. Okay, well,
I think that's a compliment. I will also add in
Connie that while you are twenty while you claim to
be number twenty three. Here's the thing Victor points out

(01:37:36):
to me via DM Jake. You were on female caller
number twenty two two months ago. Amanda is actually female
listener number twenty four. Sorry, but I keep score, so
if we throw Connie into it, we're at twenty five
a twenty five. He just lost me with all those
numbers here, Female listener number twenty five is what we're
getting at. Which one is that Connie's number twenty five,

(01:37:59):
Aman is now number twenty four according to Victor, who
is the official female female listener tabulator of the show.

Speaker 2 (01:38:06):
He's the official statistician of Queering Company.

Speaker 1 (01:38:08):
That is correct, That is his job. The fashionable Mike
Chappell joining us now on the always busy and available
to be sponsored guest line from not necessarily from Colts
Camp because they have wrapped up. Chap I commented that today,
of all days, you are more fashionable than most, not
that you're not always fashionable, but today in particular, would
you like to please reveal for the listening audience why

(01:38:29):
I would have found you to be more fashionable today
than most.

Speaker 7 (01:38:34):
I wore the shirt that you purchased at from Liverpool
the Caver and so normally, and I missed to see you. Normally,
I don't wear shirts like that. If I didn't go there,
I wouldn't wear like a cheer shirt tail. I've never
been to cheers, and that's one of my lifetime failings
of not being there. But no, if you take the

(01:38:55):
time and give me the receipt and I'll pay you
for it. If you're gonna do that, I've got to
wear it. And even though it was hotter in hell today,
I wore black. But it's all good and I want
people to realize you should thank me because it didn't rain.
I was probably the only guy at the media guy

(01:39:17):
that took that took an umbrella. It's it's like insurance.
You know you don't need it if if you haven't,
if you haven't, you eat or whatever. So so you
know it's on the reason it didn't rain. So but
all it is is another day. We stacked another day.
But I was wearing your shirt today because I want
you to see that I follow through on things well.

Speaker 1 (01:39:39):
I love that, and I was I was happy to
give to Obviously you owe me nothing for chap. I'm
glad you enjoyed the shirt. Look good on you. Let's
get to what looked good on the colts today. You
made note of the fact. It has been my observation
to this point that I don't know that you would
say that any of the two quarterbacks has jumped out
over the other. But today, is it safe to say

(01:40:00):
that one might have had a slightly better endo practice
than the other. Can you elaborate on what you saw?

Speaker 7 (01:40:06):
I thought they both threw the ball well in pads
for the first time. They really worked more on inside running.
I think I had I had Richardson six for six
and Jones was five of six or let me look here,
Jones was three or four in the one incompletion was
Michael Pittman just dropped it. So very very efficient day thrilling.

(01:40:31):
More than that, I thought with Richardson that he just
looked better. The ball came out quicker and there was more,
there was good zip on it and so but having
said it was it was probably their best day they've
done exactly had four good days. To compare it to
private today it's not been encouraging. Today was a day

(01:40:53):
to build on. And you know, I'm not dismissing Daniel
Jones at all because he's here for a reason. But
they need Richardson to continue to have good days because
I'm in that cant that insists he needs to be
the starter. But I thought today it was a really

(01:41:16):
good day, some really good throws. Boy Richardson had won
a ball to Pittman down the left side. Pittman got
behind ward and before the safety could come over, Richardson
put the ball right there, which is it's what you
want to see. And as long as these guys get
better and half days similar to to the day, I'll

(01:41:38):
feel a little bit better about this season.

Speaker 1 (01:41:41):
When you say that Richardson threw the ball today quicker,
do you mean he threw the ball quicker than Jones,
or he threw the ball than previously Richardson had been
throwing it?

Speaker 7 (01:41:51):
Well, I say quicker, I mean it came out. It
came out quicker, may more decisives. The back foot hits
the ground and the ball comes out. I'm not really
talking to velocity, although he again, I I think.

Speaker 1 (01:42:03):
I'm saying you're saying. You're saying quicker than he has been,
or quicker than Jones, or both.

Speaker 7 (01:42:09):
Probably both both Jones, it seems like he's not quite
as quick getting rid of the ball. You know, sometimes
when the back foot hits and the ball seems the
need to come out, it doesn't quite so much with Jones.
Uh that's just my observation. But but but Richardson has
a stronger arm. I mean, let's not kid ourselves. And

(01:42:30):
it's funny how when when a couple of guys have
asked Jones about, but are you're working on pushing the
ball down the field a little bit more? He sort
of bristles it that, like, no, you know, I've I've
been I've been able to push the ball down the
field you know before, meaning even with the Giants, but
that's not been his history. Uh But but again it's
they both played well today, again with the fact that

(01:42:54):
they were working a lot on running, which is really
hard to tell what you're getting out of the run
game with the naked eye, because while they're in pads
and they're thumping, they're still not bringing guys to the ground.
A couple of times the guys went down, but that's
not the intent. So it's hard to tell how much

(01:43:17):
push the line gets and how much you know, how
much of a hole was there when Jonathan Taylor got
there and how much And you really can't get an
impression on how the strength of a running back to
break a tackle. So but we'll see that in the
preseason games. But I thought today, all in all, it
was a pretty good day really for both sides.

Speaker 1 (01:43:38):
Chap let me give you a statement, Mike Chappel, our
guest CBS four and WXA and Fox fifty nine. Of course,
he has covered every Colts training camp since they came
over from Baltimore. Let me make a statement, and then
you tell me if you think there's validity to it. Okay,
the further along we go, the more I am convinced
that if Daniel Jones is the starter week one, it's

(01:44:02):
probably going to be less because Daniel Jones won the
job and rather because Anthony Richardson lost it.

Speaker 7 (01:44:10):
I think that's true. I really do. In some ways,
I came into camp thinking this had to be like
a you know, the the champions got, you got knock
him out. It's not going to be a decision type
of thing. I think this will be more about how
Richardson plays, and if it's now, if it's just you know,

(01:44:31):
no question that Jones had a better camp, then you
go with him. But I think that this is forty
sixty that Richardson was forty percent and Joe, I still
think you go with Richardson. You just you just have
to the ceiling. This team with Richardson, the ceiling is
so much higher. It just is. And maybe the flour

(01:44:54):
is a little better. With Jones, you kind of know
what you're going to get. I don't think you're going
to get the they're really big chunk plays in the
past game, but you'll probably get more efficiency. But yeah,
I I I do think that if if it's not Richardson,
it's because of what he didn't do. Uh, And then

(01:45:15):
what with Richardson, and and and again those preseason games
may tell us not may we'll tell us a ton
because at some point in camp, you know, starting with
next week, with the Baltimore UH scrimmage or joint practicing
in the game, you'll tell a lot these guys gonna apply,
they're gonna have We haven't really talked to Shane about

(01:45:36):
how he's breaking up reps in a game. Whether one
guy gets a chunk the first game and the next guy,
uh the next game is the Packers. I don't know, boy,
and I would like to think after two preseason games
you've got a really, really good idea on who your
starter is and then we'll see how they what they

(01:45:58):
do in the last preseason game. But it's interesting, and
it's we've talked about this as much as it's it's
critical to have competition at positions. Quarterback. Competition is really
really good defensive line, offensive line. I've never thought it's
a good thing to have open competition at quarterback. I

(01:46:21):
just don't I wonder who my guy is. This was
probably the first time since Goodness Peyton the twenty eleventh
season when Peyton was was messed up with his neck.
That they've had a legit competition. I don't consider Richardson's
first year serious competition. They in their heads, they knew

(01:46:42):
what they were going to do and or now Chris
tells it that maybe it was wrong to do it
that way, but going into it, it was it was
going to be Richardson barring him, you know, just falling flat.
So I've never thought competition at quarterback is a good thing,
and I still don't cheap.

Speaker 1 (01:47:00):
Each year at a training camp, one of two things happens.
Sometimes both a player emerges where you say, oh wow,
they might have found something here this guy's this guy's
playing really well, or this guy really has improved. And
then there's also somebody that you go, gosh, you know what,

(01:47:22):
I haven't seen that guy a lot, and maybe the
sands of the hourglass are starting to run on him
because I thought we'd see something and it hadn't happened yet.
Give me a guy in either of those scenarios.

Speaker 7 (01:47:35):
The guy that I wanted to see more from is
ad Mitchell, and right now he's sort of an easy
guy to pile on because he had such an uneven
rookie season, and that's probably being generous. I think he's
had too many drops. Gosh four five, I don't know,
four and you want to see more. And that's and

(01:47:57):
that's in limited reps with with with the starter with
the first and second teams. Uh. And he's he's got
so much talent and he's got a great position coaching
Reggie Wayne. But right now it's not been a good
camp for ad Mitchell. Guys that's kind of jumped down.
Of course, justin Whalley where we've all been talking about.

(01:48:19):
The third round pick has been working with the first team,
second teams and one time I'm going to keep an
eye on tight ends that aren't named Tyler Warren. I
think Will Mallory's got a pretty good training camp. They
need another tight end to step up. I think Mohley
Cox makes his roster and he's a he's he's sort
of a third tackle in the offense. I think Mallory's

(01:48:43):
played pretty well. And DJ Giddens, the rookie running back,
he's got some some pop to him. So other than that,
not a lot of guys I think have disappointed, other
than dog Gone Ady Mitchell needs to sort of get
his his game going.

Speaker 1 (01:48:58):
And happened is he is Aidie Mitchell in Jeopardy and
I know it's.

Speaker 7 (01:49:04):
No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Oh heavens no,
they're there. They would there's too much talent there. And
again Reggie Wayne, he didn't emerge until his third season.
Part of how part of that is because Peyton had
this single with Marvin and that's that's who he threw to.
But no, no, that it's way too can go back

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and look at uh Alec Pearce.

Speaker 1 (01:49:28):
Uh.

Speaker 7 (01:49:28):
There was a lot of criticisms about Alec Pierce going
into year two and it was an okay year and
then this past year he just took off. So they're
not anywhere near like, boy is he going to make
this roster. It's just that they need that fourth guy
and he's that guy right now, and they just need
to play better because he's got all the talent in

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the world. I don't know what what it is with
drop passes. I I you know, I don't know. I'm
not out there catching them. But he's the one that's
really had trouble sustaining good practices. But it's he's not
even remotely close to boy. I hope he makes the roster. No,
he's he's way too talented for that, and it's way

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too soon for that kind of talk on a second
round draft pick.

Speaker 1 (01:50:14):
Okay, when you look at the receiver position, let's say,
you know, Mitchell, you talk about they need a fourth receiver.
I mean, obviously you've got Pittman, You've got Pierce, you've
got Downs. Warren is going to be a guy that's
active in the passing game, maybe even Mallory because I
like the fact that I think Mallory can also bring
you a little bit of that like slot type receiver stuff.

(01:50:36):
But let's just say that Adie Mitchell, they still got
to give him more time and and maybe they think
that he's got to go the Anthony Richardson plan of
we're gonna make him sit and watch a few games.
Who then is behind him? And that receiver depth chart
that maybe is of intrigue, if any.

Speaker 7 (01:50:53):
Well of injury. I mean aston doing remember how I
do like Ashton Pascal all those years and and before
before you knew it, he was in November. He was
making plays because guys were hurt. Ashon Dolan is kind
of like that guy. And they've got Anthony Gould, uh
who right now is the main kick guy. But he's

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made some really good catches. I mean he's had he's
had a good camp, uh DJ Montgomery type of thing.
But but if if everybody stays healthy, which is you know,
kind of risky with with the way the game is,
you're the fourth and fifth guy, you are going to
play some Uh. That's why I guess they said they
really need Mitchell would be that guy because he's gonna

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get his reps when the time comes. But if not,
you know, again with with a goul and a dooling
and like you said, the fact that you got Tyler Warren,
he's gonna take some throws away, some targets away as well,
but you still need depth. I like the receiver depth,
I really do. And I would really like it if
Mitchell sort of gets his his head on straight and

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starts having a stronger camp. But it's still early. It's
it's five days that having said that, it goes quickly.
It just does. Before you know it, that September is
going to be here, that I'm playing against Miami, and
then it's for real and then for as long as
the season is you only play seventeen games. So but

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Mitchell is the one that and Reggie Reggio get him
turned around. If Reggie can't turn him around, then he
can't be turned around. I had that much trust in
Reggie as a coach. So, like I say, I don't
want to be the guy piling on Mitchell too much.
But right now he's not giving us much reason to
talk good about him. Although it's turboR early, but you know,

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he's got to get things gone.

Speaker 1 (01:52:47):
By the way. Here's my dark horse at receiver. I'm
all in on and we did this last year Eddie,
who was the guy last year that I was all in.

Speaker 2 (01:52:55):
On and then he got cut something Sluqua.

Speaker 1 (01:52:58):
I guess right. I'm all in on Parker. I'm all
in on Land and Parker, who is a twenty five
year old rookie out of Troy, mostly because he's got
hair like Jeff Spiccoli, Derek Derek Sleikwa, That's who it was.

Speaker 7 (01:53:11):
Do any of your long shots ever pay off or not?

Speaker 1 (01:53:15):
That's a great question. Land and Parker hit my radar
about five minutes ago. So I haven't done a lot
a lot of due diligence here mean in my life.
Drew hadad was a long shot of mind for several
years in a row, and that never panned out.

Speaker 7 (01:53:27):
Right, So ye, he had the he had the I'm thinking,
I'm geting Drew hid ed, didn't he have the big
the kick return Tampa?

Speaker 1 (01:53:38):
No, that's Brad Pyatt.

Speaker 7 (01:53:40):
Brad Pyett. Okay, okay, same guy, sort.

Speaker 1 (01:53:43):
Of correct, same guy. Correct, that is correct, exact same guy.
Looks like he lives at Planet Fitness and then all
of a sudden just showed up and you know, yeah,
that's right.

Speaker 7 (01:53:53):
So yeah, but it is kind of cool watching watching
some of these guys and and whenever he has a
look at the look at the roster of the Kandasey,
who is that? But again five days down and you know,
like nine more practices.

Speaker 1 (01:54:07):
To go, Chap. How has Shane Steiken changed as a
coach in this camp? I mean, whether it be the
way he's done with media, whether it be the way
that you see them doing drills any way, shape or form.
Do you see anything about him that shows not that
it's necessary, but just shows evolution as a coach.

Speaker 7 (01:54:30):
There's probably something that I've not noticed that he's just
all ball. I mean, no, nonsense, all ball. His sessions
with the media haven't changed a ton, although he's a
little more open to back and forth with the media
just having a good time. But then when it comes

(01:54:50):
asking serious questions, you still don't get a ton because
he's because he's all ball. It's always funny because we
get about four minutes into it and then somebody asked
about what about this guy? And he's a baller, you know,
he's a pro and somebody else. So you don't get
a lot of insight from him on individual players. There's
probably something in camp. You know, they said they're gonna

(01:55:15):
have a more physical camp. It was it was more
today they're still again. There's still now that they're knocking
each other in the next week. He's more into He
really wants to focus on the sudden change where you
get an interception. He had to play the other day
where he threw the interception to camp bind him and

(01:55:35):
then the defense returns it and then buying him, orchestrate
this little roll your boat with about ten defensive players.
So he haven't he let them have a good time
like that, but he's still all ball. I don't know
that I've seen a lot of change in structure of practices.
It's a little different when you've got to switch your

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quarterbacks up and he and He's done that with you know,
they've had probably right at the exact same number of reps.
So that's a little different when you have to do that.
But I don't know that there's been a noticeable change
in how he does things and how he approached things,
how he treats his players, because I think he's very
true to himself, which I think, by and large is

(01:56:19):
a good thing.

Speaker 1 (01:56:21):
Chap I saw Mike Chapels, our guest CBS four and
WXA and Fox fifty nine. I saw that the Chargers
just inked their left tackle Rashaun Slater to a four
year and I think one fourteen was the number. I mean,
a massive contract. I don't know that Bernard Ryman goes
that level number, but he was. I was surprised. I

(01:56:44):
don't know if you heard what Bernard Ryman had to
say when I interviewed him at the beginning of the
week for those that didn't know Bernard Ryman when I
had him on, said that he and the Colts that
I'm paraphrasing, that they are not on the same page
and that they are away And I said, do you
mean in terms of when they want to get a
deal done? And he insinuated, now the numbers are not

(01:57:06):
where we want to be. Were you surprised by that?
And what do you make of, if anything, the Chargers
signing a tackle to a four year deal at one fourteen?
How that could impact the Colts?

Speaker 7 (01:57:20):
Well, Bernie's not getting one fourteen unless it's over like
eight years. So no, And I expect Bernie to get
twenty twenty three million. I think the top ten or
twelve left tackles are getting or getting at least twenty million,
and he'll get he'll get more than twenty because he will.

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He'll get closer to twenty three on average. And maybe
the numbers that they're not there yet on is the
guaranteed money. If I'm a player, you can make the
average whatever you want, give me, give me my guarantee.
So I can't remember what the what the guarantee was
on so later was it ninety million? It was huge?

Speaker 1 (01:58:07):
So a base of twenty eight point five million and
ninety two million guarantees.

Speaker 7 (01:58:12):
Yeah, see that that's the guarantees. All that matters. You
can have, you know, Monster stuff in the last couple
of years and then it goes away when they touch it.
So I they'll probably get it done before this season.
I don't know. I maybe maybe, because you know, I
think with a lot of these guys, they've got six
eight players frontline players Alec Pierce, Quitty pay Uh Andaniel

(01:58:37):
Jones whose contract who's who are in the final year
of their contract. But maybe the daughters want to wait
and see how the season goes before they put, you know,
three four year contracts on guys. Having said that, uh,
you're gonna you've got to resign Bernard Ryman. You need

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a left tackle. He's young, he's bringing the position. He's
playing at a top I don't know ten level as
a left tackle. And I don't care who the GM
is next year. I don't care who the coach is.
Bernard Rayman needs to be your left tackle. I hope
it's Chris Bowtt. I hope it's a change sticking. But
he's going to get paid. Whether they get it done

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before the season starts. Boy, he didn't really sound like
at all. Things can change right quickly. But of all
those guys, Bernie will get his. It'll be twenty three
and change how it is for me to say that
when it's not my money. And the thing about with
when guy like when Slot Slater signs twenty eight five,

(01:59:41):
whatever it is, Bernie's not going to approach that. But
what that when when those guys shine, it pulls everybody
else up a level, Like with Jerry Jones waiting to
sign Micah Parsons. What an idiot because everybody signs and
it just pulls the number up higher instead of you
set in the market so he'll get his whether it

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gets send prior to the season, I really don't know.

Speaker 1 (02:00:05):
Look, I thought it was smart of Bernard Ryman though
to answer the way he did. I mean so many
You know Alec Pierce when I asked him the same thing,
and I don't blame Alec Pierce, but his answer was
you know, yeah, well let those things play itself out.
By Ryman coming out and saying, look, we're not close
and I'm not sure they value you know. Again I'm paraphrasing,
but he essentially said, I know the importance of my position.

(02:00:26):
We don't know yet whether the team knows that. Well,
it's a smart past, yeah, but it's a smart play, right.
I mean honestly to throw that out.

Speaker 7 (02:00:35):
There's a smart play, no question, and again and again,
and I'm not saying the Colts have waited, but when
other guys at that position signed for big numbers, it
impacts yours. They got Pittman done, was it two years ago?
The years passed and then all the receivers started signing

(02:00:56):
the great numbers, so they got they got pitt had
a pretty good number. So I realize you got your
own numbers you want to stay with. But the market's
what the market is, and it's only going to get
more expntionives that were signed these guys.

Speaker 1 (02:01:09):
Mike Chapel, CBS four, WXA and Fox fifty nine. Camp
presumes again tomorrow ten o'clock in the morning. Everything underway
is going to be a hot one tomorrow. But chap
do not wear a black T shirt tomorrow. Heat index
well over one hundred.

Speaker 7 (02:01:22):
I'll wear great tomorrow. About that?

Speaker 1 (02:01:24):
All right? Sounds good. Appreciate the time I wear white.

Speaker 7 (02:01:26):
Then if I wear white, then I'll drop something of
my shirt and I'll look like a complete slot.

Speaker 1 (02:01:33):
I'm wearing a white T shirt today just because it
was supposed to be hot and it's a T shirt
I didn't even know I had, And I'm like, well,
this looks thin and it's white, so it's supposed to
be you know, light, And yes, you are correct. I'm
now going to go probably eat strawberries and make a mistake.

Speaker 7 (02:01:45):
There you go.

Speaker 1 (02:01:46):
All right, chap appreciate it as always.

Speaker 7 (02:01:48):
Be well guys again, thanks your shirt.

Speaker 1 (02:01:50):
Yep, my pleasure. Mike Chapel joining us on the program.
All right, we'll come back. We've got more tickets to
give away, do we not, Eddie? We do? That would
be the Dropkick Murphy's Is that right? That is right?
That show is where?

Speaker 2 (02:02:01):
That is at the ever wise Amphitheater at the White
River State Park next Tuesday.

Speaker 1 (02:02:05):
Fabulous facility, by the way, drop Kick Murphy's are outstanding.
That will be a great show. We'll do the ticket
giveaway between now and when we hand it off to John,
which we will do just about thirty minutes from now.
You know, one of the things I'm curious about, Eddie,
I just realized when I'm in the studio here is
we got tickets to give away for drop Kick Murphy's,
which we'll do. So I put on the headsets right. Well,

(02:02:29):
unless we've got a guest on like, right now, why
am I wearing headsets? I don't know. Why are you're
wearing headset? Jake?

Speaker 2 (02:02:38):
It's just the two of us, right, yep, two bros
just hanging out having a blast.

Speaker 1 (02:02:43):
Yeah. Yeah, So if I'm just talking to you, I'm like,
wait a minute, do I although I guess it's if
something goes awride, do I need to hear it or
all of a sudden if I don't hear myself talking,
because no one. I'll tell you another thing that's interesting.
Now let me are you ready for a brain teaser? Here?

(02:03:06):
This is a two thirty eight in the morning brain dropped.

Speaker 2 (02:03:08):
Okay, okay, let's see if it's worthy of the sounder.

Speaker 1 (02:03:12):
People oftentimes hate hearing their own voice.

Speaker 2 (02:03:16):
Correct, Oh, yes, without question, I hate hearing my own voice.

Speaker 1 (02:03:20):
And the reason that you hate hearing your own voice
is because it sounds different to us. You know, when
you hear it on tape, you know, you're like, wait,
is that really what I sound like? And the reason
being because it has to do with when you speak,
you don't hear it the same and has something to
do with like the reverberation or some other such thing. Right,

(02:03:41):
in terms of your your ear hearing it. But when
I speak and I'm wearing these headsets, what I'm hearing
in the headsets is what is going out being broadcast, right,
So it is not authentically the sound that if I

(02:04:01):
was just sitting in a room by myself and I
was talking about headsets, my ears are hearing what my
mouth is putting out there. Right.

Speaker 2 (02:04:07):
By the way, why do you use the plural form
of headset?

Speaker 1 (02:04:10):
What's that?

Speaker 2 (02:04:10):
Why do you use the plural form a headset when
it's just one? Another excellent question, because I think it's
it's two, right, this is a set, and this is
a set. You at the left ear, and the set
would be two if she had one left here in
one right here. That's singular.

Speaker 1 (02:04:29):
No, you have a I mean so you're saying the
word set means plural, right, So yeah, In other words,
you're saying, I'm being redundant in my it's redundantly plurals
what you're getting at? Yeah? Right, yeah, good question. You mean, Now,
am I the only one that says headsets? Or do
a lot of people say headsets?

Speaker 7 (02:04:47):
Right?

Speaker 2 (02:04:47):
I usually hear people say like headphones, earbuds.

Speaker 1 (02:04:51):
Yeah, maybe that's why because you just go off of that, right,
But at any rate, when I'm talking, and I'll use
head set, Okay, when i'm talking, what I'm hearing in
my headset is what is being broadcast over the radio.
But when I'm in the car and I hear my
voice on a commercial that's being broadcast over the radio,

(02:05:12):
I hate it. But yet when I'm hearing it right now,
it sounds like what I naturally hear. Why am I
not hearing a different version of my voice in the
headset than what I hear if I was not wearing
the headset? You see what I'm saying. Do you understand
where I'm going with that? I do? Does that not
sound odd? Does that not seem odd? I'll think, so.

Speaker 2 (02:05:36):
I hear myself, I'm like, I sound like that right well,
But right now, when you're wearing, when you're listening to
what's being broadcast going through the board, you still hear
it the same. You don't hear the difference. But if
I were to go back as soon as we're done
talking and listen to this segment on tape, I would
be like, oh my gosh, that's what I sound like.

(02:05:57):
But what I'm hearing is a recorded version of what's
being sent in a my headset, So why can I
not hear it?

Speaker 1 (02:06:02):
Now? That probably makes no sense whatsoever. Should we just
give tickets away to move on? For? Please? The conundrum
that I please now proposed? Please two nine ten seventy
is the telephone number. We're going to do this actually
in the form of show trivia Eddie, which we have
done from time to time, going to the wildly popular game. Huh.

Speaker 2 (02:06:21):
I'm glad I was going to suggest trivia because this
is a ticket giveaway that we need to.

Speaker 1 (02:06:26):
You know, we have tickets for the Dropkick Murphy. This
concert is going to be taking place at the evertwise
Amphitheater at the Lawn at White River, which is a
fabulous venue they have. It is such a cool venue
because it is quaint. I looked it up when we
were there the other day. I think with the lawn
seating at seats a total of eight thousand, but you

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are right there. I mean, it's an intimate venue. The
weather is going to be fabulous. The new and I
say new since the time that it opened. Now, the
renovations they've done with the kind of covering over the
seating area of it, All of it is fantastic. And
then you throw in the fact that the food that's there,

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the drinks, all of it gonna be a great night
to see the drop Kick Murphy's, who I think is
a fantastic band. We have callers who have lined up
for this at two, three, nine, ten seventy. Who are
we going to go with here? First? Eddie? Peter? Hi, Peter,
how are you?

Speaker 5 (02:07:20):
I'm great? Thanks? How are you?

Speaker 1 (02:07:22):
I'm good? Are you outside right now? Peter?

Speaker 5 (02:07:24):
Actually I'm driving home from the golf course.

Speaker 1 (02:07:27):
Please, Peter, I'm asking you be careful hands at ten
and two, if you could, you played which golf course today.

Speaker 5 (02:07:34):
Peter, Twin Bridges and Danville?

Speaker 1 (02:07:37):
Twin Bridges in Danville. Okay, Now, Peter, how long have
you been golfing? Oh?

Speaker 5 (02:07:43):
I don't know, fifty years.

Speaker 1 (02:07:45):
Okay, I'm going to guess that you just shot a
ninety one.

Speaker 5 (02:07:50):
Eighty two.

Speaker 1 (02:07:51):
Wow, Peter, that's impressive. What's the best round you've ever had?

Speaker 5 (02:07:57):
Seventy three?

Speaker 1 (02:07:59):
Really, that's it, that's really impressive. I was guessing. Now
let me ask you this, Peter. Is it true that
as you get older your golf game WANs absolutely? What
what age around what age does that really start to
show itself? Okay, so I just started, So I have

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three years of prime and then I'm done.

Speaker 5 (02:08:22):
No, you got plenty. You seem to be in pretty good.

Speaker 1 (02:08:24):
Jake, Really well, thank you, Peter. It's nice of you
to say, all right, Peter, we're gonna play a little
less show trivia. Eddie. Would you like to come up
with a question? Would you like for myself to do? So?
You got it, Peter? How long have you listened to
this program today or in general?

Speaker 8 (02:08:40):
Oh?

Speaker 5 (02:08:40):
Since Query and Company was formed?

Speaker 1 (02:08:42):
Okay? And and you do you find yourself? Is that
because the radio knob is broken or you actually find
that the that the program meets you know, your tastes.

Speaker 5 (02:08:53):
No, you have a different spin on on sports talk radio,
so it gives a different listening to your your perspective.

Speaker 1 (02:09:04):
Okay, Well I appreciate that. And and I would say, look,
sometimes you know, fifteen percent of the time you actually
agree with.

Speaker 5 (02:09:10):
Me, right, Uh, twelve to fifteen?

Speaker 1 (02:09:16):
All right, Well I'm gonna okay, Eddie, would you like
to ask a question? Did you say or you want
me to ask a question you? Okay, I will ask
the question. Uh, this the reason we do it this way, Peter,
is because we want to try to find out whether
or not people are legitimately listeners of the program or
if they just all of a sudden they're trying to
win take. You know, you get these people that they're
like professional radio players of games. Okay, they get somehow

(02:09:37):
they get notification. So here's the question, Peter. I'm basically
giving these tickets to you, Okay, I'm giving them away
with this. It's so easy, okay, and it's going to
be a fabulous night out at the foris Amphitheater for
the drop Kick Murphy's. But here's your question. Recently, Peter, recently,
since we're talking about concerts, I have in the last
couple of weeks gone to two different concerts. One is

(02:09:59):
the the Lawn. The other I went overseas to see
a band. Can you tell me either of the two
concerts that I had mentioned on this radio show that
I went to?

Speaker 5 (02:10:09):
Oh my god, yes, the one in the one that
you went to see in Europe.

Speaker 1 (02:10:16):
Okay, here you go, Peter. If you were today, was
it hot when you were out there golfing?

Speaker 7 (02:10:21):
Well?

Speaker 6 (02:10:21):
Yeah, okay, So Peter, if that were the situation, and
you were in the Mojave and you were walking along
and you're like, I just need something to drink because
I'm dying, and you looked up and all of a sudden,
in the middle of the mojave, you just saw this fountain,
this water that was right there that would be called what.

Speaker 1 (02:10:44):
Which is the name of the band that I went
to see? Now? The other band I went to see, Peter.
The other band that I went to see is a
Canadian band that kind of a a I mean, I
wouldn't say a folk band. They're a rock band, but
they kind of have fun with it and they do
a number of covers. And the name of the band
is something that you would see, for example, like a

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neon lights and a toddry part of town. And when
I told Shannon that I was going I see, Yeah,
my cousin and I are going to go see this,
and she's like, you're gonna go see what? And I go, no, no, no,
the band. We're not going to a club a bar
to see that. We're not going to like, say, the
Red Garter to see that. We're going to see the
band by the name of that. And she's like, oh, okay,
I get it. Now I have another trivia question if

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we want on, Peter, are you going up for two?

Speaker 7 (02:11:27):
Here?

Speaker 5 (02:11:29):
I will you know?

Speaker 1 (02:11:30):
At least you shout at eighty two today? All right, Eddie,
go ahead. Eddie's got one for you. Hang on.

Speaker 2 (02:11:34):
What's the name of the genie?

Speaker 1 (02:11:36):
Excellent question on the program. We have the genie that
occasionally pops in, Peter, do you know the genie's name? Now?

Speaker 5 (02:11:50):
I got it on a multiple guess, but that the
best I could.

Speaker 1 (02:11:53):
Peter, you're lying. You usually you thought you called in
Bob and Tom did?

Speaker 4 (02:11:59):
All right?

Speaker 1 (02:11:59):
Last one, Peter, last one, because I'm trying my hardest here,
you're ready, I'm trying my hardest. Okay, I appreciate. All right.
Let me ask you this one. Can you tell me
either where I attended high school or any of the
five colleges I attended.

Speaker 5 (02:12:13):
Yeah, you went to North Central and then you went
to IU and you graduated. Just not too long.

Speaker 1 (02:12:18):
All right, Peter, there we go. You redeemed yourself, Peter.
You forgot Oasis? Yes, Peter, yes, all right, Peter, you've
redeemed yourself. You you forgot Oasis, you forgot bare naked ladies,
and it is Robin the genie. But nonetheless, you're on
your way. I appreciate it. We'll come back, we'll put
kind of a tie on everything. We'll hand it off

(02:12:38):
to John next. I don't know exactly what just happened
or what I did, but I looked down to check
something on an email and looked up and Eddie was gone,
and Nathaniel don't call me Attica Spincer suddenly in here.

Speaker 9 (02:12:51):
I think he quit. To me, it said, I'm done.
He walked out.

Speaker 1 (02:12:56):
You know that's there. There have been. There was one
time in this building, years ago, years ago when I'm
not going to say any names, but there was a
on one of the other stations, our sister stations, many

(02:13:17):
many moons ago. I mean, I'm talking thirty plus years ago,
probably thirty years ago. There was a host, a radio
host that was a popular radio host who went on
to fairly big things after working at the radio station,
that in the middle of a shift got into some
sort of a disagreement or a I don't know whether

(02:13:39):
it was a disagreement of just show layout or whatever else,
and the producer just said, that's it. I quit and
just got it and walked out, and the host was like,
excuse me, like you had to come back in here
and finish the show, and it's like, no, man, And
I'm the first to admit I would be if you
guys really did get up and just walk out, I
would be complete. I know how to do two things
and I had to touch the button that turns on

(02:14:00):
the microphone and how to talk, and that's it. I
don't know how to simble things. I don't know how
to put things together. I am a moron when it
comes to that stuff. I have absolutely zero mechanical inclimate
in any way, shape or form. I'd love to, but

(02:14:20):
I just my brain just does not work that way.
As you heard Peter say, I had problems with algebra.
There's no truer words have ever been said on this
radio station. Colts Camp earlier today to recap what took place,
I got there. It was admittedly, it was cooler today
than I think it was expected to be, which is good.

(02:14:40):
Tomorrow I think is going to be super hot and
hopefully we will have a player again tomorrow as well.
The Colts have done a good job with that and
helping out and Jalen Jones joined today. That is up
on the podcast form. Jalen Jones, who was entering year
number three, talked about with Justin Whaley that battle at
the corner position, and it's interesting when he says, you know,

(02:15:02):
we're all just out there trying to get better as
a team, and there's probably some truth to that, but
guys also naturally are competitors and they know who stands
in the way of each in terms of position battles.
I get all that, but in terms of the on
field activity, it's really for me, it's hard. I'm not

(02:15:23):
gonna lie. It's hard to really break down who stands
out and who looks good because you just don't know
what the goals are of each respective drill. A guy
makes a diving amazing one handed catch, you know, okay,
that was pretty prolific. But in terms of you know this,

(02:15:43):
this alignment I'll give I mean the coaches in this,
you know, Chris Ballard, I mean a lot of credit
like to to know and have the ability nuanced to
their eye to see something in camp between one interior

(02:16:05):
lineman versus another of a particular move they make. I mean,
all things are not created equal. What happens if Nathaniel
and I are both vying for the same offensive line position.
And when I line up for rotation, I'm up against
DeForest Buckner, and then Nathaniel lines up and he's up

(02:16:26):
against you know, a rookie out of Troy. Can you
really adequately judge which of the two of us? And
that situation is doing a bet. I mean you're looking,
I presume at how quickly they're able to swivel their hips,
move their feet, get into position, get into stance, regardless
of who's on the other side of it. With all

(02:16:50):
of that said, you know, there's still I think Ady
Mitchell is the one that is of the best or
the biggest enigma at this point, because you know, ad
Mitchell came out of the draft or came out into
the draft, and there was question about his commitment. There

(02:17:13):
was definitely he was one of those that you know,
you hear this a lot. Well, if he he has
the skill, of the talent or the intrigue to be
a top twenty pick, but he falls to round two,
well why does he fall? Or round three, round four?
With different guys, you know, why do they fall? And

(02:17:34):
there also comes a point where in the draft, in
a certain level, you say, okay, now, you're into the
it's all gravy zone. You draft a guy in round six,
round seven, Robert Mathis and he pans out, it's all gravy.
If they don't pan out at that cause you know
Gilbert Gardner, he was actually higher up. So that was
a bad example. But then you say, okay, they that

(02:17:55):
was a bad swing and a miss. Does anybody really
think of swinging a miss on round seven? Tony Yugo
was the swing and a miss because they moved up
to get him and it didn't work out. But Adie Mitchell,
as we talked about earlier with Mike Chappell another interview
that will be up on the podcast page. You know,
with everyone's waiting for Adie Mitchell to show something, and
the longer that you go and have to wait, then

(02:18:18):
the more you have to factor in or take into
account or consider what the word and the narrative and
the warning on him was when you got him. I'm
not saying that the guy gets released, but at what
point do you say to yourself, we've got to start
seeing something here because we're just not seeing anything and
we got I mean, show me something, and I think

(02:18:43):
that's again it's we're still early, even in camp, and
we're early in his career for sure. I mean, we
are still early in his career. But it is true
when Chap talks about how Reggie Wayne took a while
to get going, but even still, Reggie Wayne was getting
reps where he was on the field on the regularity

(02:19:03):
and they were throwing to him. It wasn't like he was,
you know, Any lack of production for Reggie Wayne in
the get go or the early part of his career
at Indianapolis certainly was not due to lack of opportunity.
Adi Mitchell's almost becoming like lack of opportunity because they've

(02:19:23):
they've got to get him out there. I mean, they've
got to get him out on the field in game
situations and get him involved to the point where he's
opening and maybe that opens up Alec Pierce even maybe
you know, maybe Tyler Warren opens that up. But Pierce
is another one that we we were starting to have
that conversation. But with Pierce, it almost felt like they

(02:19:45):
were not able to get him the ball. It wasn't
because Alec Pierce wasn't on the field or wasn't putting
in the time. It does feel like Adie Mitchell. You
just wonder if he's not putting in the time, and
that's the thing that you wonder about. Now, Nathaniel you
are we mentioned it before your NFL team. You grew

(02:20:05):
up as a Broncos fan. Correct, that's right. I'm from
Denver and you moved here at what age? Pretty young
at three or four? But still, I mean, like I
get it. So you're still a family out there.

Speaker 9 (02:20:16):
Yes, I do.

Speaker 1 (02:20:16):
Have you been to a game out there?

Speaker 9 (02:20:18):
I went to the Colts game last winter?

Speaker 1 (02:20:21):
What was the weather like?

Speaker 9 (02:20:22):
It was beautiful? Man, it was fifty degrees and sunny
in December.

Speaker 1 (02:20:26):
How often do you go back to Denver?

Speaker 9 (02:20:28):
Not very often, once every couple of years.

Speaker 1 (02:20:30):
So I'm going in October to see Paul McCartney. Now
will that be a complete way because Paul McCartney, I
think at this point he just comes up and sings
two notes and then has everybody else sing the rest. Right,
But it's Paul McCartney, Right, Yeah, you gotta do it.
I mean, it's Paul McCartney. So, but that's coors Field,
not in Vesco. I saw guns and roses that Invesco.
Invesco a mile high, right, Yeah, and then it's got

(02:20:51):
that horse up at the top. That's that's demonic, right,
that's right, not unlike the one at the airport. You
know the airport's airport.

Speaker 9 (02:20:56):
Oh yeah, big time.

Speaker 1 (02:20:58):
Yeah, it's the illuminati, right, yep. There are all kinds
of weird stuff at the airport, there isn't that the rumor?

Speaker 2 (02:21:02):
Yeah?

Speaker 9 (02:21:02):
And I think there's something with the run the runways
kind of form a, you know, a symbol that we're
not allowed to form anymore of these days. It's it's bad.

Speaker 1 (02:21:10):
Yeah, that's crazy. And and like a bunch of people
died when they were developing it, right, yeah, allegedly big
time John is here, got on a shirt Indie versus anybody.
What a great job last week. Nathaniel did well done.
Of course mistakes. Nathaniel is thorough. Eddie just left. He
got up and left said, okay, cool, sounds good. We're

(02:21:34):
proud of that. Uh John, you had a busy week.

Speaker 2 (02:21:38):
Had a busy week.

Speaker 10 (02:21:38):
There a little pre hosting because Greg Straw Rake Straw,
Great Straw. That's a good works he should go by
that Great Straw was stuck between Iceland and Indy, which
is not a Christopher Cross song that's right.

Speaker 1 (02:21:53):
If he was stuck between Iceland and Indy. Do we
know what airport was he stuck in?

Speaker 10 (02:21:56):
He was stuck overnight in Newark and then went from
Newark to Dulles and got held up there. The dude
still came in halfway through the time I was in here.

Speaker 1 (02:22:06):
I'll just drive it from Newark, screw it. So he was.

Speaker 10 (02:22:11):
He was still Greg Straw bred the car and drive it,
no working hard at it. So a pretty interesting racing weekend,
right it was. Indeed, you knows anybody.

Speaker 2 (02:22:21):
Upset about the lack of attendance there or.

Speaker 1 (02:22:23):
Is it just not matter anymore? No matter? I think,
you know, here's the thing. You always get this. And
I because I was at the Indy car side of it,
so I didn't see the attendance, but they said sixty.
Problem is sixty there looks like nothing? Right? Yeah? Right?
I heard did Bubba Wallace did his burnout go over
the bricks? Because I thought not? Okay, I mean that's
good because that's the one thing that is requested. But

(02:22:45):
and then I was at Colts Camp earlier today had
Jalen Jones. Tomorrow is going to be an inferno out there.

Speaker 2 (02:22:51):
It is You're gonna have fun out there the entire day.

Speaker 1 (02:22:53):
I have yet to be out there. You're out there Thursday, right, am.
I I need to pick them out there. There credential
for you so that you can get out there. What's
on the big show today?

Speaker 10 (02:23:02):
We're gonna go Lance McAllister Big One Cincinnati and we'll
talk to Stephen Holder who was up there with you.

Speaker 1 (02:23:10):
And indeed it is funny. John one hour practices. I mean,
what a life right. We need to we need to
come up with the RHPA, the Radio Host Players Association.
There's no doubt. Just tell them like, you know what
we're doing twenty minutes today, Yeah, yeah, twenty minutes today,
and we get days off on Wednesday. Right.

Speaker 10 (02:23:26):
Saturday Night was fun though. Saturday Night JAMV Takeover is great.
You're gonna be at the State Fair later on this
week to open it up Friday at the Dairy Bar.
I'm going to do a live JMV takeover on the
ninth in the tap room out there on a Saturday.

Speaker 1 (02:23:38):
Tap rooms awesome. Also, yes, all right, John's up next.
We'll be back with you noon tomorrow. I thank you
for listening to Quarying Company.

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