Colts QB Competition Breakdown! Dan Orlovsky & Mike Chappell Join!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Absolutely gorgeous day in Indianapolis. It was a gorgeous day
over the weekend. And now I don't know what the
weather was like here over the weekend because I was
in the Pacific Northwest where it was unbelievable. Because it
is not often that you go, at least I'm assuming
that it's not often that when you go to Portland,
Oregon or Seattle, Washington, that it's ninety seven degrees. But

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that's what it was yesterday for the IndyCar Race. We'll
get into that a little bit today, but obviously back
in the mix and back running not only for this
for me, but for the Colts for everything. And there
have been some things that have taken place since we
last talked, not only in terms of the Colts quarterback situation,

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not only in terms of the fever roster and their
health status, but also in this radio show, in the
way that you interact with us now, Eddie, as you know,
and this will stun you, I'm sure some times. Now
I'd like to think that I'm pretty good once I
figure things out, but I'm a little bit of a

(01:06):
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you are also always welcome to do it. But in

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(01:49):
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with us and let me know, or if you if
you simply want to inquire about the size of Eddie's cranium,
we can answer those questions as well. WHOA somebody over
the weekend sent a message saying there's a picture of
a guy in Vegas and with I don't know what
the picture was from. I think I was on a
plane when I saw it, but it said I've never
seen Eddie, but I can only assume this ISAM. And

(02:58):
it was a guy, and I think it was vague
with two like unbelievably good looking girls. But the dude's
head was massive.

Speaker 2 (03:04):
It almost looks like it's photoshop.

Speaker 1 (03:06):
It does. I think it's the angle of which this
poor SOB's like picture was taken, but it's but it
was pretty funny. I got a kick out of it.
Good afternoon to you on what is a Monday. Obviously,
my name is Jake Quarry, Eddie Garrison. The other voice
that you just heard it is Quarying Company here on
ninety three five and one oh seven five the Fan.
And there is plenty to talk about, plenty to talk

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about today because you know, the Colts are back and
it's going to be interesting. Now it is the Green
Bay Packers that will come calling. They will have a
joint practice towards the end of the week. They obviously
preseason game number two, and we know this much. The
snaps that are going to take place for that, the
way that they are going to disperse the playing time

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at the quarterback position now has changed, understandably so because
of the fact that initially it was designing game number
one that Anthony Richardson was going to play a longer
amount of time then Daniel Jones would get some reps.
Then obviously Anthony Richardson has the incident with his pinky,

(04:12):
he leaves the game, Daniel Jones goes in, goes I
think ten of twenty one. He was okay, didn't do
anything to set himself apart. Now what we know is
that Anthony Richardson will get more snaps than was anticipated.
Daniel Jones got more than was expected for him in
Game number one. Richardson is going to get more than

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what we had expected in game number two. The problem
with all of it is this, and I truly believe,
and I'm gonna say, I'm going to be like the
goldfish at the end of the music video for Faith

(04:53):
No More in nineteen ninety I think it was Faith
No More. You won it all, but you you can
have it? You know that song, Eddie, I know, I
don't well. The end of their music video they show
a goldfish flopping around out of its tank. It was
very disturbing, to be honest with you, shocked people in

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nineteen ninety one. But I'm gonna be that goldfish because
I am flopping a little bit here in terms of
where I think things stand on the Colts quarterback position.
And let me explain what I mean. When Daniel Jones
was signed coming off of the season, Anthony Richardson had
had in particularly what the helmet tap. When Daniel Jones
was signed and given thirteen million dollars, my first thought was,

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that's who's going to be your starter. Daniel Jones is
going to start for the Colts, and then as and
when they went through the OTAs and Richardson had the
sore shoulder and they shelfed him. Then I thought, Okay,
now I'm certain it's Daniel Jones. But once they then
went to it and said, no, we're starting clean slate

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and we're going to see where things stand. The more
I thought about it, the more I thought, you know what,
Daniel Jones was brought in to be a last minute
insurance policy if things go, if the wheels completely come
off the Anthony Richardson experiment, and in addition to that,
to be the last effort to push him. And I

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think the Colts in that thought process looked at it
and said, you know what, here's the bottom line. We
have a guy that we drafted in the top five
of the NFL draft. Everyone or top six, whatever it was,
Everyone and their brother knew that Indianapolis was in a
position where they finally had to get a franchise quarterback.

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And this is the guy that Chris Ballad is attached
to in Anthony Richardson. So as a result of that,
they're going to give him every possible opportunity. And so
going into the training camp, I thought to myself, unless
Daniel Jones comes out and literally looks like Steve Young,
Michael Vick, John Elway, and Warren Moon all wrapped into one,

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this is Anthony Richardson's job. And then Richardson gets hurt
and Jones doesn't do anything to completely jump off the page.
Then Richardson on Saturday has a bad day, Jones has
an okay day. Sunday Richardson okay, Jones has a bad day.
And all of it led me to realize, Look, one

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of these two quarterbacks has bigger upside. The other of
these two quarterbacks has better stability from game into game out.
But if we are still sitting here now talking about
having to alter the amount of snaps in a preseason
game than what we thought before because we didn't get

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a chance to see enough of this guy, and we
didn't get a chance to see enough of that guy,
et cetera, et cetera, then my fear for the Colts
is that we're back to this point, and that is
that if you have two quarterbacks, you have none, And
if you are talking about quarterback by committee or you're
talking about still doing this battle and not one versus

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the other has really jumped off the page. That's a problem.
And I think Richardson certainly shows and presents himself as
the guy that has the bigger wow home run factor.
I'm done. Or Wade Boggs, you know, Cecil Fielder or

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Wade Boggs. Who's the better player? The base hit guy
or the guy that when he hits a home run
wows Everett, Mark McGuire, Mark McGuire, Will Clark, who's the
better player? And I'm not saying Daniel Jones is Will
Clark or Wade Boggs, But I'm saying what he brings
to the table is just a consistency. And with Richardson,
you've fall in love with the home run factor, but

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neither one of them Eddie Daniel Jones has yet to
show the consistency that's supposed to be his brand, and
Anthony Richardson has yet to show the home runs that
are supposed to be his brand. And as a result,
what do you have?

Speaker 2 (09:18):
Are Anthony Richardson's home runs solely to be displayed in
game action versus practice? I mean, you gotta you have
to at some point see it, right, Yeah? I mean
I get what you're saying.

Speaker 1 (09:31):
I just to me that that is a concern is
if you have two quarterbacks, you have none, and at
this point that's still what they have. I think that
we can sit here and say it's Richardson, but you know,
so far, like I said, it's kind of neither one

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the Fever are. They had an interesting weekend. Now again,
I was gone, so I was, what are you doing
over there? Are you doing? I next with the microphone,
everything going, Okay.

Speaker 2 (10:02):
I'm pretty sure Mark Dykton's trying to sabotage the show.
This mic is very loose, and I was just trying
to tighten it over here.

Speaker 1 (10:07):
That's it.

Speaker 2 (10:07):
That's all I'm trying to do so it doesn't fall off.

Speaker 1 (10:11):
Okay, but what you just did actually is created audio
for Mark Dyton to make a promo mocking you. The
Fever had an unfortunate, obviously weekend, but and you know
it was interesting. I was flying when I flew to

(10:31):
Portland through LA I landed, as you know, and I
know everybody was anxiously awaiting to find out whether or
not I made my connecting flight. If you recall, on Friday,
we were almost taking wagers on it because I think,
what did I have like forty minutes between flights and
I think they were going into different gates at LAX.

Speaker 2 (10:52):
Yeah, and you had a delay so you were able
to successfully make it right.

Speaker 1 (10:56):
So I land and I think it was thirty nine
minutes the connection. But I land and it says you
are delayed. I was supposed to leave Lax at like
six twenty five Pacific time, so's you're delayed until seven
thirty and then seven thirty. At like seven fifteen, I

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get a thing says delayed till eight thirty five, eight
thirty five. It's like delayed. I've been through this movie.
I know how this goes. It's like waiting for Anthony
Richardson and Daniel Jones to take off in one of
them to get the job. Literally, every time you think
that you're about to board, two steps back. And at

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one point I walked up to the gate after sitting
there for a couple of hours, I walked up to
the woman and said, you know, just out of curiosity,
is there any chance that you know, is there anything
available where I could like upgrade my seat? And she
looks at me and says, oh, oh, I'm sorry, but

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I can't do any upgrades within fifteen minutes of boarding.
And according to my clock here, we're going to start
boarding in fourteen minutes. And I said okay, and I
go and sit down, and two minutes later, boom, another delay,
another delay, and I'm thinking, okay. So I had time
to walk around Lax and kill because we did not
end up leaving for I was laid over in Lax

(12:24):
for I think it was nine hours something like that,
nine or ten hours.

Speaker 2 (12:28):
Did you see any people wearing cardigans?

Speaker 1 (12:30):
So I didn't see anybody wearing cardigans? And certainly there
were no dreams other than the dream of getting on
my flight. Now.

Speaker 2 (12:38):
Was there a jay Z song playing?

Speaker 1 (12:39):
There was not a jay Z song playing, nor was
there a cab. But as I was walking around Lax,
I saw not one, not two, but three different people
wearing fever gear. Really, and this was in a completely
different I went into the international terminal because that's where
all the shopping and everything is, so I went in
there to walk around, get something to eat, and I

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saw three different people wearing fever stuff. And you know,
that's my litmus test as to the viability of a
franchise is when you go through a place like that,
and this was not to my knowledge, I mean, unless
there were people that were on my flight that were
connecting to an international flight, but I didn't see any
of those people that I on the Indianapolis flight. So
my point being, Caitlin Clark effect WNBA starting to rise

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a little bit. We have, you know, the Fever are indeed,
and I love it. I love the fact that it's
a great thing to talk about and a fun team.
But right when they were starting to hit their stride, Eddie,
right when Anthony Richardson was starting to complete passes, right
when Daniel Jones was realizing that without Richardson and OTAs,
he has a chance to really take a step forward,
right when the Fever had that going, then all of

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a sudden, this happens with the injury bug. You already
have Kitlyn Clark out, you have Aery McDonald we find
out has a broken bone in her foot, Sidney Colson
with an ACL injury, and now you are really knocked
back a peg, so to speak. They did go out
and make a transaction to take care of that, and

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they did get a win over the weekend, But at
the same time, and I hate to say this because
wins are wins, especially at the professional level. But the
reality Eddie Garrison pre and post game host of the
Indiana Fever broadcast, The reality is that beating Chicago is
something that that has not been their buggaboo, that's not
been their challenge, right, so we have yet to really
see how this will impact and affect them moving forward.

Speaker 2 (14:26):
That is an accurate assessment, Jake, especially because I think
I saw this on Saturday night when Chicago does not
have anjeury switch.

Speaker 1 (14:34):
They haven't had in.

Speaker 2 (14:35):
Over a week now. They're losing on average by like
twenty points a game, and the Fever beat them by
twenty two. So like they're doing, they took care of
business the way they were supposed to take care of
business against a bad Chicago team. It was nice to
see Lexi Hole get back to making some shots yesterday
or on Saturday, she was four to six on threes
after struggling. Then going into that game on Saturday after

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the break, she had only hit four threes and like
twenty eight attempts, like she was struggling to say the least,
and they as a team they knocked down eleven. Sophie
Cunningham is a nice game Kelsey Mitchell again with twenty
six points and eight boards. But they signed Odyssey Simms,
and I think Jake they had to wait until because
there were some stipulations with like WNWA rules, is that

(15:17):
they'd wait until yesterday to sign Odyssey Simms. And she's
a veteran point guard that's been around the league for
a long time, so she'll she'll step in right away
again some minutes and it'll be fascinating to see how
they integrate her within you know, the scheme of which
they want to operate offensively as they're trying to steal
integrate Kaitlyn Clark back onto the practice floor as well.

Speaker 1 (15:37):
So we have another Odyssey in Indianapolis that's right to decipher,
which is good. Dan Arlovsky, by the way, again to
join is coming up bottom of the hour just about
fifteen minutes from now, and he has a very interesting
piece that he's done on the seven traits necessary in
a quarterback. And I can't wait to talk to the
former Colts quarterback of course now with ESPN about what
he has seen both from Anthony Richardson and Daniel Joe

(16:00):
Ozones and continue the conversation about it. If you have
two quarterbacks. Do you have none? We will do that
coming up just under fifteen minutes from now. Another thing
I wanted to touch on today, and it is not often,
despite my connection to it and my role within it,

(16:25):
it's not often that we talk Indie car especially you know,
at the forefront of the show, just because there are
topics that, quite frankly, are of more interest to people
in this town, notably what we just talked about with
the Colts, you know, basketball, et cetera. And I'm not
naive enough to sit here and think that if I

(16:46):
sat here and broke down for fifteen minutes the nuances
of what took place in a particular race, in particular
a non Indy five hundred race, that the audience would
be glued to the radio. But I want to touch
on something that happened yesterday that I think we all

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can learn from because one of the things about sports
that makes sports great is that it can provide for
all of us a perspective, a roadmap of just how
to go about things. And elite level athletes, you know,
there are two kinds of athletes. There are those that

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just are naturally gifted, and then there are those that
are just that discipline that they have gotten themselves in
a situation or position because of the discipline that they
showed to get to the mountaintop. I mean sure, and
even a Bo Jackson or a Dion Sanders, you know,

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guys that are just so naturally gifted and seemingly come
out of the womb as elite level, faster, jump higher,
stronger guys. Even those guys you have to respect and
assume and give credit towards their discipline, their diet, their workout,

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their commitment learning offenses. I think when we talk to
dan Arlovsky, you will notice this. You will notice when
we talk to dan Arlovsky sometimes, you know, the breakdown
at the quarterback position of things that you should be seeing,
recognition of things that when you hear guys talk about
it that played the position at the highest level and

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they will say to you, well, this is a you
look right here. I mean, this is a gap double
stunt blitz. This is the most you recognize and you
you know this stuff right out of the box playing quarterback.
And I'm thinking to myself, I'm looking at it right now,
and this feels like you're teaching me algebra. I mean,
it is complex stuff. Right. So even the most gifted

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natural talent has to learn those things. They have to
put time in the lab, they have to be committed.
And even with when you see at the top level
professional athletes, you are seeing a commitment. You are seeing
an ability to block out distraction. You are seeing men

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and women that overcome odds, whether it be the mental odds,
whether it be the physical odds, whatever it might be,
to reach the zenith within the respective sport. And I
don't care if you're talking about an NFL quarterback or
you're talking about somebody that is good at the steeplechase.
I don't care whether you're talking about somebody in the
Olympics that is a long distance runner or somebody who's

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one of those cross country skiers I'd ask to stop
and shoot a rifle. The mental focus necessary that you
are able to witness when you watch elite level athletes.
And when I say elite, I mean amongst the top
one percent of what it is that they Sure it

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helps to be on the best team, Sure it helps
to be in the fastest car. But there are things
that we can see in witness that can carry forward
as a message to all of us that we can
learn from. And when I do broadcasts for IndyCar and
I go and I call the Indy five hundred or

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I'm calling the you know, whether it be yesterday's race
in Portland or the finale in Nashville in a couple
of weeks, whatever it might be. Like all of you,
with whatever job you're in, there are times where it
is a job to me, and so I'm looking at

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it through that lens of a sterile environment, of not
stepping back to truly absorb what it is that I'm witnessing,
because my job is to simply relay it and I'm
not I'm doing it antiseptically. But yesterday in Portland, Oregon,
there were two storylines that developed that I don't care

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if you don't follow one iota of auto racing. I
don't care if you don't follow one single nuance of
sport in general. I don't care if you have never
even had a driver's license and you don't care one
iota about the automobile and you've never been to the
Indianapolis five hundred. There were two storylines yesterday with two

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different drivers that when I was sitting there and watching
it and witnessing it, and then talking to both of
them over the course of the weekend, I realized that
what I was seeing was something that I had a
privilege to be able to witness up close and personal
of a storyline that finally came to its conclusion, and

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that it is my job and responsibility to share with
the audience what it was that I witnessed and what
makes it special, because you don't have to be a
fan of the sport to be able to relate to
and connect to your everyday life what I saw from
not one but two different athletes yesterday, and I'll tell

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you what that is and why it's special and why
it's unique and why you don't have to be a
race fan to appreciate it. And I'll do that over
the course of today as well. Mike Chapel joining us
two o'clock Dan Orlovsky ESPN and his thoughts on the
Colts quarterbacking situation and the traits of a quarterback. We
will get into that with Dan Arlovsky and we will

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do it next. You're listening to Quarian Company here ninety
three five and one of seven five of the Fan
Great Song, Great Song and Bittersweet Symphony. The name of
the song. Listen, that kind of explains we were talking about.
Odyssey is the odyssey of the Colts quarterbacking situation right

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in the fact that there are times that it is
like a symphony of poetry in motion when you look
at Anthony Richardson the way he throws the ball, for example.
There are also times where you know it can be
bittersweet because you take the good with the bad and
you just you never know from one thing to the next,
one play, one drive to the next, how things are
going to fare. But I thought it was interesting that

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dan Arlovsky, who obviously knows the position well and does
an outstanding job on ESPN of articulating the quarterback position
and just kind of what you can look for how
to call him where he lists the seven traits of
an NFL quarterback, and dan Arlovsky in doing so, you
know things like pocket presence, footwork, arm strength. There's no

(23:39):
Colts quarterback mentioned. And I don't mean that as an
indictment on Arlovsky at all. I think it's that speaks
to the mediocrity that the Colts may be stuck in
at the quarterbacking spot. But wanted to talk to him
about that and more of course he needs little introduction
in the city of Indianapolis, but I'll do it. Nonetheless,
he is with ESPN now and Dan Arlofsky joins us
on the program. Dan, how are you a man? I

(23:59):
appreciate at the time. Good to be with you.

Speaker 3 (24:02):
I'm doing great. How about yourself?

Speaker 1 (24:03):
No complaints, man, except for and I guess this is
a good thing. It gives us plenty of talk to
talk about an indie. But we still just don't know
where the Colts are at the quarterbacking spot. So I'm
going to begin with this question point blank, and that is,
if you are in year three when it comes to
Anthony Richardson and I know the tantalizing upside, and we've

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seen the glimpses of it, Dan, but you know this
position and you've played it. If you're in year three
and you still don't know exactly who a guy is,
does that actually tell you that you know exactly who
the guy is?

Speaker 3 (24:36):
I think more often than not my answer would be yes.

Speaker 4 (24:38):
But the kind of asterisks in this situation is just
a playing time, like he just hasn't played enough.

Speaker 5 (24:45):
You know.

Speaker 4 (24:46):
And so there's guys that are in year three and
they've you know, started almost every game and played a
ton of snaps and there hasn't been a ton of
growth indoor development for Anthony. It's you're still sitting there going,
can I string together you know, five, six, seven, eight
starts in a.

Speaker 3 (25:03):
Row type of thing, and that has it really happened?

Speaker 1 (25:05):
And so.

Speaker 4 (25:07):
I think that's the continues to be the maddening thing.
And that's probably one of the things that was maddening,
you know, coming off of the game the other day,
is you know, he gets hurt, and he gets hurt
in part because it's completely in tune to some of
the things that are going on and instead of getting

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him two three series and some meaningful work and you know,
maybe some upside and hope you're sitting there with you know,
an unanswered question once again.

Speaker 1 (25:39):
You know that I want to go back to this
Dan dan Orlovski, our guest, the play in which Anthony
Richardson was heard. And you know, so many people that
play the quarterback position or played it, look at it
and say, guys, this is like football one oh one.
You learn this like in late high school, of this
recognition of a defense. It is that accurate. I mean,

(26:02):
you played the position and take me through that particular
play or just the level of were you incredulous over
the fact he didn't recognize it?

Speaker 4 (26:11):
So, yeah, I think there is a reality that it
is a simple thing when it comes to the understanding
of us that when I rewind the tape and I
slow it down and it takes three minutes for me
to show kind of what's happening, there is a simplicity
to that.

Speaker 3 (26:26):
When we're in.

Speaker 4 (26:27):
A meeting room and we're going over on a board,
there's a simplicity to it.

Speaker 3 (26:32):
There is also a very difficult element of he's.

Speaker 4 (26:36):
Got to see kind of both sides of the field
happening at once. So while the truth to Anthony like, yes,
there there's a simple thing that we should know what
the problem is, also understanding that and then executing the

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answer to that there is a challenge too. Do I
believe every started quarterback in the NFL should be capable
of doing that? Yes, Like, when he's sitting there and
it's clear what the protection is, it's clear who's got
where the offensive line is going. I mean, he looks
to his left because he's expecting that guy to be
the problem. I can understand that point of it. But

(27:18):
it's also telling me that you don't think the guy
on the opposite side or Anthony's right is a problem.

Speaker 3 (27:25):
And so it tells me, like, you know step one.

Speaker 4 (27:30):
What it also tells me is you're not thinking about
step two or step three.

Speaker 3 (27:35):
That for me, is still a problem.

Speaker 4 (27:36):
Yes, I think for Shane Steichen that's still a problem
because you've got to be able.

Speaker 3 (27:41):
To trust the guy. This isn't you know, Like I
I was.

Speaker 4 (27:44):
Trying to think about it in this regard guys, if
everyone can close their eyes and think back.

Speaker 3 (27:48):
To the AFC Championship Game last.

Speaker 4 (27:50):
Year, the fourth down, flakeball, Josh Allen runs for his life,
Kansas City brings the blitz and in the bulk incomplete
and the Bills don't get this. This isn't that. That
is what I call Star Wars, where you're like, hey,
you're going to get that one out of ten times.
This is one where Shane's got to its first down.

(28:11):
He's making a simple play call. We should as a
quarterback be able to handle that problem and know that problem.
So it's frustrating that he doesn't know it. Yes, I'm
not telling everybody, it's easy to actually go and get
done because I think seeing both sides it's hard.

Speaker 3 (28:31):
It's hard. But he's telling me he doesn't even know
he needs to see both sides.

Speaker 1 (28:36):
And that's the thing to me and Dan Alovski, our guest, Dan,
I want to be clear here, I don't I don't
know Anthony Richardson on a personal level. I have no
reason to believe he's anything other than a nice None
of none of the critique of him as a football
player has anything to do with what I think of
him as a person, Right, I don't. That's unfair of me, sure,

(28:57):
but but I'm curious of this, and I want you
to opine here. You played, you know, big time college
football at Connecticut, you played in the NFL. I'm assuming you,
dan Arlovsky, probably through the majority of high school, were
the best player on the field when you walked out
there because you played in the NFL. Right, So I mean,
like I'm assuming, So let me ask. Let me begin

(29:17):
with this question, what level were you when you realized
you were no longer automatically the best player at practice?

Speaker 4 (29:26):
I probably always thought that way, just because I was
never Anthony so athletically gifted. I was never that so
I kind of always had that element to my game.
But certainly, you know, when I was at Yukon and
realizing to win and to play the level I there
had to be an understanding of the game for me

(29:47):
that was just so such a necessity for me to
play the style that I wanted to.

Speaker 1 (29:53):
So the reason I ask it, and you can tell
me if it's the dumbest, you know, Freudian thing you've
ever heard, but I'm I'm just so fascinated by at
no fault of his. If Anthony Richardson is almost too
late to the game of trying to learn the game
because he didn't have to before, because he did have
those natural gifts for further along in his career that

(30:16):
separated him than most players have.

Speaker 4 (30:19):
Not too late, not by any means. It's by no
means is.

Speaker 3 (30:22):
It too late.

Speaker 4 (30:23):
You know, I think a lot of like physically just
unique talented athletes go through this at some juncture where
they're so physically gifted that there are parts of their
game that don't get the attention that are necessary for
them to become what that talent allowed or should allow

(30:46):
them to become. Patrick Mahomes, I mean, I was with
Matthew Stafford He's so physically gifted that other parts of
his game, it just took time for that to get there.
Anthony hasn't always had to know what the hot route
is or how to handle protections, one because he didn't
have to do it a ton in college. And then

(31:07):
two he's always been able to athletically make a player
run away from somebody. Shoot, I'll go to this guys,
Jaden Daniels. Last year there were times where like Washington
wouldn't even call like an NFL protection, we Paul full
slides where just everybody off in the offensive line goes
for the right and Jada would have to handle the
other guy.

Speaker 3 (31:27):
The thing with Jaden is Jada knew that one guy
was the problem.

Speaker 4 (31:31):
And so like it wasn't like he was at you know,
the line of scrimmage being a Peyton manning or Drew
Brees or a Brady fixing all the problems.

Speaker 3 (31:38):
He just knew what the problem was. And so I
do think that.

Speaker 4 (31:42):
Anthony's gotten by athletically, but you want to see him
and you it's going to be needed and demanded, And
I would say like this, Gary Kubiak was great coach
in Kyle Shanahan both were coaches of mine, and they
were great to get the quarterbacks to understand everybody's relying
on you to know this.

Speaker 3 (32:03):
It's not just for you to play good.

Speaker 4 (32:06):
Everybody is relying on you to be the problem solver. Everyone,
the players, the coaches, the people in the building.

Speaker 3 (32:14):
And I've said that about Anthony and I'm not overreacting
to one play, but it is it is.

Speaker 4 (32:21):
Hopefully another step in an eye opener of like, hey man,
we need you to really get this, because if we
can't call this on first and ten, it's either we
can't call our offense or we need a different quarterback running.

Speaker 1 (32:36):
It is that different quarterback Daniel Jones. Has Daniel Jones
shown you Dan so far? And I know that Daniel
Jones is new to Indianapolis and he's got to learn
that offense and those cadences as well, But have you
seen anything from him that shows glimpse that you know what?
They're going to be okay if it doesn't work out
with Richardson.

Speaker 4 (32:55):
I think they would be okay. Sure, I don't think
anybody wants that. I don't think the roster has set
up for that. In hopes. I thought Daniel looked sharp
I did, you know, Daniel's not perfect either. Daniel has
struggled with kind of the same stuff, you know, handling
pressures or diagnosing pressures.

Speaker 5 (33:14):
You know.

Speaker 4 (33:15):
I think that's kind of why what I when I
brought up to a d and Tyler Warren stuff was.
You know, at some point it does become like what
quarterback do you right now, like in this very moment today,
what quarterback do you believe gets those playmakers the ball
more consistently?

Speaker 3 (33:36):
You can make the case it's Daniel, like you can
at least the young talented guys are going to get
the ball, you know, And so Daniel looks sharp to me.

Speaker 4 (33:45):
I really believe that I'm not gonna sit here and
tell anybody that you know, Daniel Jones is gonna, you know,
be the starting quarterback and have a Sam Darnold type
of year. I think they he would keep them afloat,
but he doesn't have the that nearly the potential of
what Anthony does.

Speaker 1 (34:03):
Do they need to at some point and obviously I
know the answer to this that you know, realistically logistically,
Dan ar Lovsky is our guest from ESPN. Do the
Colts though need to come out even if they aren't
certain on which it is. Just for the sake of
clarity in the NFL, do you have to come out
at some point and say this is our guy, this
is who we're staying by and barring injury, he is

(34:25):
the guy. Because of the old adage that if you
have two quarterbacks you have none, do they need to
just push in or can they kind of go and
work their massage this through the first quarter of the year.

Speaker 4 (34:37):
Yeah, I think that you would preferably have your quarterback
their started decided after week two of the preseason. I
think this could be a case where it might get
to week three. I whoever wins that initial quarterback competition,
I think they get like four to six weeks and
it's either going well and working or it isn't. Because

(35:01):
if you go with Anthony and it's it's you know, going.

Speaker 3 (35:05):
Well, great, and if it's not going at some point, you.

Speaker 4 (35:08):
Know, there's just the reality of like having to go
win games, you know, and everyone else you know doing
right by the locker room. And if you go with
Daniel and you know it's struggling the talent, you're only
going to be able to keep on the bench for
so long. So I think whoever you know wins that
initial race is you give them four to six weeks

(35:30):
and it's very clear, like, hey, this is the opportunity
and it's just the way it shakes out, dan.

Speaker 1 (35:36):
Our Lobscar Guest. One other thing, Dan, I appreciate your time.
I know you're a busy guy. I did want to
get this from you. Of the thirty two quarterbacks that
start in the NFL, how many of them truly do
have that computer mind where they walk up and instantly
can recognize a defensive stuff or whatever it might be.
I mean theoretically, because we're here in Indianapolis and we're saying,

(35:59):
look andrewl Okay to Peyton Manning had okay, Well, I
mean yeah, two of the like biggest savants of all time. Realistically,
in your opinion, Dan Arlovsky, you played in the nfnin
that we're at Anthony Richardson or Daniel Jones to be
right now, I'd.

Speaker 4 (36:14):
Probably give you twelve to fourteen. You know easily comfortably
that are that are capable of on a consistent basis
handling all that stuff and you know, fixing the problem
and knowing what the problem is and fixing it.

Speaker 3 (36:28):
Twelve to fourteen at a minimum would be my answer.

Speaker 1 (36:31):
And is that pretty you think part for the course?
I mean, are we in like a dry period or
is it at any time? Is that realistically what you're
looking you know, a third of the league.

Speaker 4 (36:38):
Basically, Yeah, I think I would say that's probably consistently
what it is. You know, it depends on you know,
obviously how many rookies are playing and.

Speaker 3 (36:49):
What style of offenses.

Speaker 4 (36:51):
But I think you know you're you're talking probably closer
to half of the league truly being consistently capable of
handling that.

Speaker 1 (37:00):
Again. The article right now up at ESPN dot com
ranking NFL quarterbacks by trade best, arm accuracy and more
from Dan Arlovsky breaking down arm strength, ball placement, mechanics,
decision making, pocket presence, rushing ability, second reaction, all of it.
Great breakdown, Dan, appreciate the time. I know you got
to get in there, but certainly appreciate you're letting us
chat you up today. And really good perspective.

Speaker 3 (37:23):
Thanks, Bud. I appreciate you having me.

Speaker 1 (37:25):
I appreciate it, Dan Arlofsky joining us from ESPN. Really
good stuff and pictured right there in that and Eddie,
this is one of those that you and I've talked
about because I know where you stand on him. He
has pictured within the column Trevor Lawrence, but there are
not a lot of mentions of Trevor Lawrence. I only
mention that because he's within the division and the clock

(37:46):
seems to be ticking there right just in terms of
whether or not, because that's a guy that goes to
show you with what feels like can't miss guys. You know,
then all of a sudden they come out and every
single tool was there coming out of college per se.
But again then all of a sudden, right situation, wrong situation, injury, learn, premature,

(38:11):
You just never know. At the position. Fifteen minutes from now,
I'll tell you what I saw over the course of
the weekend. Two things, two stories that I think translate
to all of us, and you don't have to be
a fan of sports to appreciate them. I'll tell you
that in fifteen and chap at two o'clock, it's quiring
company here in the fan again a reminder, and I

(38:31):
realize that people have and I do appreciate it, and
I always appreciate I think people know my nocturnal hours
as well, so I get a kick out of it
like one in the morning when someone will send me
a text like hey, quick question. And one of the
things that I've really enjoyed about this show in giving

(38:51):
out my cell phone number, which I've done for you.
I mean, for years on the radio, I've given out
my cell phone number and told people to text me
and interact. And I have really enjoyed and appreciated, probably
more than the sports talk, the people that have reached
out to me because of something we talked about, or

(39:12):
just something on a personal note that they had a
question about or that they were going through or they
thought I was going through. And the conversations and the
sometimes even phone conversations that have taken place. When I
went on my trip to co Oasis, I remember telling
my cousin, I'm like, yeah, I was actually up until

(39:34):
like three point thirty in the morning last night on
the phone just because of you know, somebody that texted
and then that that led to a conversation and you know,
important stuff to chat about. I've always enjoyed that. But
in terms of this show, in this radio station now
and it is very cool you can text interact with
all of us at two three, nine, ten seventy that

(39:55):
is the text number three one seven two three nine
ten seventy the number that you would call you can
now also text it and all of us myself, Eddie, John,
that's J and V, Kevin Bowen, James Boy, jeff Rickord.
You know, we all see it. We all can Mark
Dyton can interact James and get your thoughts on what

(40:16):
it is that we're talking about and what it is
that we have upcoming, what you'd like to hear from
the show, et cetera. So two three, nine ten seventy
is the number wee can also text on this program
and to the station itself. Last night, Eddie, I had
a bit of a harrowing situation. Okay, you wait what
I had a bit of a harrowing situation, harrowin what

(40:37):
not that although.

Speaker 2 (40:38):
I wasn't I know, you're nothing's off the table.

Speaker 1 (40:41):
I was. Now, let me tell you one brilliant thing
that I that I've done one area where I'm I
just pride myself on being savvy without saying that. So
I belonged to a particular gym here in town that
Isaal Chain and it's a very nice gym. I love it.

(41:03):
It's I love it well. I mean, I'll just say.
You know, so I go to Lifetime here in town,
and I love it. I've been the member there for
twenty years and I love the people there, you know,
the regulars that I see stretch down. Yep, Bob stretches.
It calls me the trampoline Bob does when he stretches
my hamstrings. Bob, by the way, are you ready for this? Eddie? Bob,
the trainer that stretches me at the gym, lives and

(41:25):
commutes from Fort Wayne every day.

Speaker 2 (41:27):
Really can you believe that lives in Fort Wayne? Give
me more dedication than you and I have serious dedication.

Speaker 1 (41:32):
But Lifetime Fitness, you know, it's a national chain, so
if you're a remember at one, you can go to
the different clubs. When I travel, and in particular, if
a race is complete and I have time between the
end of the race and then when my flight home
is to shower, yes I will go and find And
not every city has a Lifetime. There is a Lifetime

(41:53):
Fitness in suburban Portland, but it's closed on Saturday and Sunday.
I found that peculiar. But I guess actually out there
not as much because people are so active outdoors hiking,
and you know, I mean, it's beautiful there. But I
also have a second membership to a gym that has
multiple locations that I use almost entirely for the shower

(42:15):
purpose only when I'm on the road. And yesterday, in fact,
I looked at it and I'm like, okay, they have
multiple locations in the Portland area. I have plenty of
time to kill before my flight. I'm going to go
to the one in Beaverton because that's where Nike is headquartered.
So I assume that's like a nice suburb and thus
it would be a nicer variation of said gem. So
I went to it. It was nice, it was big gem.

(42:36):
Whatever else. And to your point, Eddie, true story. I showered.
I was so proud of myself. I'm walking out and
I'm pretty pretty sure that in the parking lot I
saw a needle just on the ground. Can we see
some doping very very careful, Well, yes, but in the
not in the muscle variation, not in the the steroid

(43:00):
baseball way. But anyway, So I get to the airport
and everything else and I connected. I landed, I flew
through Seattle. I land in Seattle, and I'm waiting in
line to board my flight from Seattle to Indy and
at some point and it was a tight connection and
we landed in like Terminal B, and I had to

(43:22):
go to Terminal INN. So I mean it was a
hall like I think there were trains involved. I mean,
I can barely remember because it was, you know, for us,
like two o'clock in the morning. It's kind of a haze.
But anyway, a literally a sprint to get to the
gate and I'm waiting there to get on the plane,

(43:43):
and all of a sudden, like Taylor Kyle, who is
one of the managing directors for Ganassi, I'm standing there
talking with him and we're about to board the plane
and this lady, all of a sudden, these people start
jumping up down screaming like sir, sir. And I looked down, yeah,
and they go, you're you're bleed. And I look at
my right leg is completely covered in blood. And then

(44:04):
and I realized, I just like it's somehow along the
way during the trains for I don't know if I
you know, hit it against something navigating, you know, it
is in these airports and you're you know, I mean,
on the on the train from the terminals whatever. But
literally I had like a nick, I mean like a
hangnail nick on my calf, but I'm on blood dinners,
so it's literally like a geiser. Right well, literally people

(44:25):
are passing out, kids are vomiting, women are fanning themselves.
Men are you know, just agast in horror as I
have this leg that now suddenly looks like one of
those fire hydrants that they open up in the summertime
for kids when it's hot outside with and I'm literally
staying to everybody, it's fine, folks, it's fine. It's just
a nick. I'm on blood thinners, and I had in

(44:47):
my back and this, I said, this is my life,
story of my life, don't worry about it. And I
got out a napkin to wipe my leg up, but
whatever it was on my leg actually had already dried.
So now so now I've got like this dried cat,
this cake of a red paint down my leg. And
I had to get all that taken up, and I
realized I had a thing of alcohol eyeglass lens wiping

(45:11):
things in my so I opened up one of those
clean it off real quick. I'm doing my own first
aid kit right there. While this is all happening. They
then start boarding, and I want to make sure that
I don't have to check my bag so that when
I land in Indie, I don't have to wait for it.
So I'm like, oh, you know what, folks, I'd like
to go ahead and make this more hygienic, but it's
all about me and my time. So I got to
get on the plane and I had in my bag
a small band aid. And might I add, this is

(45:34):
a whole topic for a hold of her show, But
I had a small band aid. But the only band
aids that I had in my bag true story, and
there's a whole different talk show to this, but were
lion King band aids. So they have like the little
lion King characters on okay, So I put one of
those on my leg and then, as a fifty two,
very soon to be fifty three year old man with
blood on my leg and a lion King band aid,

(45:55):
I boarded the plane, sat down, and next thing I
knew we were in Indy's all good, But I did
I apologize if last night you were in in thirteen
in the Seattle Tacoma airport and you thought seeing like
right before you that you were seeing some sort of
gore and a gas horror. It's just a simple nick
in the blood thinners, that's it. But I did see

(46:16):
something yesterday in Portland that I think is relatable to
all of us, and I think it's something that we
all can learn from. And I'll explain next good looking
day outside on a Monday. How are you. My name
is Jake Quarry, Eddie Garrison. The other voice you hear
on this program. We call it Querying Company here on
ninety three five and one oh seven five. The fan,
the company, all of you who I most appreciate you

(46:40):
allowing us to keep you company over the course of today.
Folks like Neil that told me that they hear the
majority of the show because I didn't do anything all day.
You say, I just sit around listen to the radio.
That must be nice, but it's appreciated. I had not one,
but two different people stopped me in Portland yesterday, one

(47:02):
from Endretti and one from ECR. Guys that say they
hear us in the shop, and that is also much appreciated.
And we do our best to not only educate and entertain,
but also keep you up to speed on what's going
on with the Colts with the quarterbacking position. Mike Chapel
joins us at two o'clock. We'll get into that obviously,

(47:25):
the fever in the midst of their season, and then
dealing with what happens in sports, right, just the attrition
of a roster. We'll get into that still over the
course of today, and the College Football AP preseason Top
twenty five is out. We'll break that down in just
a minute. But let me let me tell you what

(47:47):
is to me the part of our job that is challenging,
but at times I guess rewarding. I don't know that
I necessarily when we're doing it, you don't realize this, Okay,
for all of you and whatever you do in whatever

(48:09):
line of work that you're in, when you're listening to us,
there are probably times where you exercise or do something
at work that is just almost like a muscle memory, right,
and after the fact, you realize that you do what
you do because of that. I mean, you've done it
for a long time. And I think that when you

(48:31):
do what we do for a living, and we're very
fortunate to do and I'm talking about sports talk radio,
you can very easily just say yeah. I mean I
talked for three hours a day about sports, and that
is that. There's a muscle memory to that. And I don't,
by any stretch of the imagination, ever go out of

(48:53):
my way to try to come up with a different angle,
a different perspective. I think that's non organic, and I
think that it's I think you, folks, the listener, it
would be a discredit to you, It would be a
disrespect to you to like, as I always say, when
you go out of your way to be unique, you
are in fact ordinary. And so I don't, nor do

(49:16):
I think Eddie, nor do I think Kevin John. I
can't speak for everybody else, but I think I'm true
in saying this, and that is that we are who
we are. That's one of the things about this radio
station that I like with with all of our colleagues
is we are who we are. You know, you don't
hear anybody here that's trying to play a character. We're
just we're just dudes. You know that that talk sports.

Speaker 2 (49:36):
Well, one of us says, Eddie a character Jake, huh okay.

Speaker 1 (49:41):
So here's the thing. Every once in a while, though,
something jumps out to me that reminds me of the
privilege of our access, and we are, within this job,
the intermediate. We're the link between a fan of a

(50:05):
franchise or a program, and to a great extent, we
are all fans as well, but we're fans that have
the access or the ability to see things and then
relay it back to the audience. And I am well
aware in my job as a broadcaster for IndyCar and
for the Indianapolis five hundred, I am certainly well aware

(50:28):
of the esoteric nature of the sport of auto racing
within the grand scheme of things Indianapolis. Perhaps it has
a larger percentage than piece of the pie than a
lot of markets. But even still, in an era and
in a world now where I think everything but the
NFL is a niche sport, I understand that IndyCar is

(50:48):
a niche sport and that while there are people that
are aware of it in Indianapolis, it's a smaller percentage
of people that are passionate about it. But let me
tell you something that I think just can be transferable
to all five years ago. Actually, I guess it would

(51:11):
have been technically in my years all run together. So
my apologies here when it comes to the COVID stuff,
but I guess it would have been five years ago.
So in the twenty twenty race season as COVID took
hold of the sports world in general, and you remember
what a weird time it was. Someday there will be

(51:34):
a thirty for thirty about it, about what a weird
time it was. Where we were watching auto racers race
against each other on simulators on video games because we
wanted something to watch. And we were watching Korean baseball
at four o'clock in the morning because they were playing

(51:54):
it and we needed something to see. And the Tiger
King became a household phenomen because everybody was quarantined. It
was all watching stuff and doing group text with their friends.
I have a group text with my friends the tracksuits
and Tiger Queens. We call it of people from high
school that started during COVID when all that was going on,
it was a very surreal time. But with IndyCar and

(52:17):
with the racing series, the racing season of twenty twenty
did run, but it was later in the year because
of of course, the quarantine and the shutdown that took
place in the first half of twenty twenty. So one
of the promising young drivers of that time was Alex
Polo and Alex Polo at that time, IndyCar because everybody

(52:41):
was thirsting for information and content and anything to be entertaining.
IndyCar reached out to me and said, Hey, we're thinking
about doing just like zoom calls with different drivers that
people can watch to just get to know them and
what they're doing during quarantine. Would you be willing to
do one of these with Alex Polow? And I said sure,

(53:01):
And I didn't really know anything about Alex Polow. So
we go and I do this. You know, I'm in
one location, he's in another location, and it's broadcasted, you
know whatever else of just this interview. And I remember
Alex Bolow. He spoke English, but it wasn't near the
fluent level that he does today. And I remember thinking
to myself, like, I don't know what there is. This

(53:22):
guy's from Barcelona, Spain. He's part owner of a coffee
store in Barcelona. What possibly can I talk to him
about that is relatable to people in the United States
and in Indianapolis where people can look at it and
go I can relate to that. And what I found
was a guy that was very like confident, I guess,

(53:48):
but at the same time just a quiet, unassuming guy
as a personality. And even then, when I got done
with that interview, I remember thinking to myself, I don't
know what it is that this guy hasn't with anybody
who's a fan of IndyCar. And it hit me yesterday
because shortly after I did that interview with Alex Polow,

(54:10):
who was driving for dale Coin Racing and had had
not a lot of success in that year, we were
towards the end of the year and I was at
mid Ohio and I was walking through the paddock and
I saw Alex Polow and went up to simply say, hey,
I appreciate that you did that interview. And this was

(54:31):
back when like everyone had a mask on and you
had to stand six feet from one another. I mean,
it was still very awkward. It's all surreal. But in
talking to him, I said, so, what are your plans
for next year? And he looked at me, and if
you remember back when people wore masks, it was weird
because you couldn't see their facial expression at all time,
but you could see their eyes, and I could see

(54:53):
in his eyes his level of concern on certainty and doubt.
And he looked at me and said, I have nothing.
I have nothing for next year. I don't have any money,
I don't have any sort of a guaranteed ride. I
have nothing. But what we didn't know was that Alex Polo,

(55:17):
during his journey to IndyCar, had raced in a series
in Japan that Mike Hole, the managing director for chip
Ganassi Racing, felt was a series that best prepared drivers
for a versatility in skill set as a driver, and
Alex Polo had dominated in that series, and it caught
the eye of Mike Hole. And what Alex Polo didn't know,

(55:40):
and what I didn't know while we were standing there talking,
is that Mike Hole was talking with chip Ganassi saying
this Alex Polo is a guy with great promise and potential.
And so Polo ends up signing with chip Ganassi. And
he has won now four of the last five IndyCar
championships for the seat. He has become just the third

(56:02):
driver in the history of the sport to win three
straight season championships. He accomplished it yesterday. He did not
win the race yesterday. He was going for the win,
but he won the season championship, and he secured that
yesterday he joins Ted Horn and Dario Frankidi, is the
only two drivers to do that in three straight years.
And I don't pretend, by any stretch of the imagination
to expect that many people listening to me right now

(56:25):
are such nuanced IndyCar fans that they're like, man, this
is awesome to hear about this IndyCar Championship. But all
of you can relate to a story of somebody who
had a doubt, perhaps about their uncertainty, who had an
insecurity about their future, but still a belief in themselves,
and they couldn't let other people know that they themselves

(56:46):
were a little bit afraid. But his eyes showed it,
but he didn't allow it to outwardly be seen because
then he ended up signing with Chip Ganassi and everything
I told you has unfolded. So yesterday, when he won
the championship, I talked to Alex Polow and said, like,
what a ride, And he said, and you know what

(57:08):
it's all come about, because even with each step, even
with each win, and he has eight of them right now,
he has the chance still to tie Alanzer and aj
Foryd for the most ever wins in a season of
auto racing in North America. That still is in the
table for him. But he said, even through all of that,
when I look back at the journey, it was all

(57:31):
because I never allowed myself to think beyond just simply
winning the next race. And he had a situation did
Alex Polow, where he tried to leave Ganassei to go
into Errow McLaren as it was known then, and signed
a contract because he thought it would be an opening
for him to go to Formula one, and he didn't
look at the fine print of his contract to find

(57:52):
that he actually was in voided the contract, and then
there was a lawsuit going on, and amidst all of this,
all of this legality, all of this fine that was
being imposed on him by his own employer, he still
went out every single day and won a championship. And
the reason he did it and the reason why yesterday
he was able to look at me and say, like,

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what a journey it's been, is because he never, through
the craziness, lost sight of the little things, and the
little things sometimes are just going about and seizing and
winning that day, not the week, not the month, but
that day, and it's applicable to so many things in life,
and I think we lose sight of it. And when

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I talked earlier about the fact that when we see
elite level athletes and we see those that are performing
at the highest level, we assume that what we are
seeing are those that are simply the most physically gifted
one percent. But we lose sight of the fact that
sometimes what we see also are the most elite focused
one percent. And we will never have the ability to

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run like a Bo Jackson, will have the ability to
throw a football like a Josh Allen, will never have
the ability to hit a curveball like a Tony Gwinn
or to pitch a fastball like shohe Atani. But we
can all replicate the focus in the dedication and the
principle of not losing sight of the simple and letting

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the simple define the great, which takes us to the
other situation that happened yesterday. While I'm talking to Alex
Poalo about his championship, I'm also aware of the fact
that the race itself was won by will power and

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will Power drives for the biggest team in motorsports in
North America. Historically, Team Penske, Roger Penske's team has won
at least one race every year since nineteen ninety nine
uninterrupted over a quarter century. They have never been shut out.
And Roger Penske right now has three drivers in his stable,
Scott McLaughlin, Joe of Newgarden and will Power. And will

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Power because he's over the age of forty and there's
a lot of question mark about his future and his
contract is coming to an end, there is this assumption
that will Power it's a FATA complee, that he is
in his last year with Team Penske, that he is
going to be if he wants to continue his racing career,
have to find a job elsewhere, because a young buck
named David Malucas is thought to be in the wings

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waiting to take over his job. And will Power, who
is a native of Australia and drives within this series
and within the job of working for Team Penske, met
his wife, Liz, who is from Texas but went to
high school Indiana, and they had they're this great couple,

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and then Liz Power got critically ill. I think most
people know this by now a few years ago and
literally Liz Power was fighting for her life, and while
she's fighting for her life, will Power is not only
tending to his wife and the mother of their child,
but at the same time then going out and having

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to race knowing that there's already talking speculation that his
contract is going to eventually be up and what are
they going to do with it? And will Power through
all of that noise, through all of that drama, through
all of that heartache and turmoil, and thankfully Liz is
healthy now and on the road to recovery. But throughout

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all of that, will Power sees Scott McLaughlin, who's a likable, personable,
nice looking pole winning an Indianapolis driver, and Joseph Neugart
who wins back to back Indy five hundreds and is
the face of the sport, and will Power is sitting
there just having to go through and do his thing

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with everything going on in his personal life and discussion
about his future and about his contract, and worrying about
his wife and staying up late night and giving her
medication and doing all of that and being just as
loyal to her as she's been to him. And it's
a great story of the two of them. But through
all of that. When it comes down to it, then
you get this season of all this turmoil with Team Penske,

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where you have violations in Indianapolis and moving to the
back of the field for cars, and allegations of not
even allegations of, but a rule violation a year ago
at Saint Petersburg and firings that took place amongst the
brass of the race team itself, and all of this
turmoil is going on in a season where Roger Penske's team,

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for the first time in over a quarter century, is
at risk of not winning a single race. And it
was will power, with everything going on, that was the
one that kept the streak alive for Team Penske by
winning that RACEUS yesterday. And I understand that not many
people listening to my voice right now are diehards of
any car. And I understand that not many people listening
to my voice right now were glued in to see

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what happened in the bit Nile Grand per Portland. But
I think that most people listening to my voice are
fans of and aware of human interest stories that make
the elite of the elite relatable to us, and all
of us have situations where we doubt at work whether
or not the boss likes what we're doing. All of

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us have situations where we wonder how we're going to
handle a personal adversity without people at work knowing exactly
what's going on, because we have a job to do
and you've got to stay focused on it. And all
of us have those things going on where we can
relate to a guy that literally says I have nothing

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other than belief in myself and gets a chance to
then be a multi champion by focusing on the day
to day, And all of us have relatability to somebody
who says, I have a young gun that's coming from
my job where I was once the promising rising star,
but now I'm the fading guy. But yet I'm just

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going to keep going about my business and winning. And
will Power did that and Alex Palou did it, both
on the same day and both with the same principle
in something that I think is relatable to all of us.
And we can sit there and watch sports and feel
like we are not on the level of professional athletes,
but we are on the level as humans, and that,

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to me is what is the beauty of sport. After
the race. Yesterday, I went to dinner before I came
back and I started talking to this couple next to
me from Portland, and the guy actually was from Fort
Wayne and we were talking about sports in general, and
his wife said she was commenting about the fact that
her father, she and her father bonded through her childhood

(01:04:42):
through sport because her dad was a Boston Red Sox fan.
And she said to me, you know, that's the thing
about sports, isn't it. And that's what I've always said
is sports unifies the masses like no other. That concert
that I went to, and I know people are tired
of hearing about it in Manchester though, but it was
so special to me because I realized that I was
amidst all these people that have nothing in common with

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one another other than a mutual soundtrack of their life
and appreciation for it. And in sports, oftentimes, when you
go to a game, you have nothing in common with
the people in the arena other than a love for
the same team. And when we talk about sports on
this job, and when we look at it and when
I try to offer insider perspective, I realized that at
times there's something that I witnessed that I'm privileged to that.

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I feel like it's my job to illustrate because it
means that you are closer to these athletes and what
they go through than you think, because they give us
example of how just the day to day is the
focus and not always the long term because you've got
to walk before you can run. The AP Top twenty

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five preseason is out, Eddie, I'm gonna give have you
give me a number one through twenty five off the
top of your head right now. You're gonna win season
tickets for a year, Eddie, season tickets for a year
to the team of the number you choose. Now, you
can't say one through five because you know it's gonna
be a big time programm. So let's go six through
twenty five, Eddie Garrison, give me a number six through
twenty five right now? Nine nine, number nine, number nine.

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Are you Beatles fan? Number nine? Now, give me a
number for myself. Twelve twelve, All right, I'll let you
know who it is, and I will let you know
where Hurt Signett's team. Just win, baby, google me. I
did exactly that, and I'll let you know where the
Hoosiers ranked.

Speaker 4 (01:06:22):
Next.

Speaker 1 (01:06:24):
I just get a kick out of this, Jake, I'd
like to know where Notre Dame ranks in the poll
because I'm from Indiana and I love all Indiana teams,
which Notre Dame most certainly is, and I think this
is an Indiana sports talk show. Okay, Notre Dame again,
I go back to, Yes, Notre Dame is located in Indiana.
That is correct. Number one. Teasing will let you know
where Indiana or where Notre Dame is ranked isn't quite, frankly,

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as big a story because everyone knows they're going to
be ranked in the top five. I mean, it is
a foregone conclusion. Notre Dame is going to the college
football playoff. That is a certainty. Right now. They are sixth,
by the way, which means Eddie Garrison was just three
away from winning season tickets to Notre Dame. Look, I
get the fact, the reason why, if you really want

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to know the truth, the reason why. And yesterday last year,
I think this show we talked as much Notre Dame
as anybody. We had, Gosh, Eddie, I mean we had
a Notre Dame guest on for every week of probably
the last six weeks of the season. Did we not yeah,
tom Noy. I mean he was like a regular correspondent
for the show. He was a fun guy or is
a fun guy. But Notre Dame is they are a

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This is an age old debate with people Notre Dame fans,
but they should take it actually with pride. Notre Dame
is a national brand. I mean it happens to be
based in Indiana, but it's a national brand. It's more
so a national team than I think that you the
reason why from a college standpoint, you hear more about

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Indiana and Purdue in Indianapolis than you do. Notre Dame
is number one because of the just it's not within
the television viewing market, but number two because Notre Dame
is a national brand, meaning that you can get Notre
Dame coverage any and everywhere. As a Notre Dame fan,
you should be proud of that, right whereas Indiana Purdue
it's more locally based in terms of the coverage of

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those teams. You pick number nine, Eddie, and you got
the team that actually leads off with my favorite team, LSU.
Really you got Brian Kelly. He is going to welcommute
to the family.

Speaker 2 (01:08:33):
Well, I'm just going to exit stage left. Then they'll
be ringked there for one week and then by week
three they'll be out of the top twenty five. Thig
So it's the Brian Kelly Special.

Speaker 1 (01:08:43):
LSU opens at Clemson. I'm a little nervous about that.
By the way, you gave me number twelve, Is that right?

Speaker 2 (01:08:50):
Yep?

Speaker 1 (01:08:51):
Okay, I got a team that This is again we
are talking about the AP College football preseason Top twenty
five that has been Really the team that I got
at number twelve is a real sexy pick to be
like this year's Indiana.

Speaker 2 (01:09:07):
But can they be though if they're ranked twelfth already?

Speaker 1 (01:09:10):
Very fair? I just had that conversation with who was
I talking to and I said exactly that. I said,
this team Matt Greco, my buddy MacGregor was a huge
Nunbertnight fan as a matter of fact, And I said,
who do you think is going to be? This year's team?
Just kind of comes out of nowhere. I go, what
about Illinois? And he goes, yeah, but I mean the
ranked twelfth? Okay, fair, but yes, Illinois is ranked twelfth.

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Indiana checks in at number twenty. Indiana's schedule pretty favorable though,
Right when.

Speaker 2 (01:09:38):
We did the exercise on Friday nine and three is
where I had them.

Speaker 1 (01:09:44):
I think that's I mean, that feels about right the
Big ten in general. You got Penn State at second,
Ohio State at third. And yes, I understand that it
seems ridiculous to talk about the preseason rankings. They mean
virtually nothing, and what is every everybody say it at
some point they should even do rankers to week eight.

(01:10:04):
But number one, it's fun. And number two, I do
think that especially for teams that start out ranked really high,
it gives you a good first couple of steps towards
the college football playoff now and the way that things rank,
because if you just hold serve even if you are
not and we've seen this from teams in the past,

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that if you start out with this high ranking, so
long as you just hold serve and if you don't
have an arduous schedule, then you can stay right there
in the thicket in the hunt of things. Texas is
number one. And before any of you say it, you
know the coles to what they should do is they

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should just sacrifice everything and just start the march for Arch. Yeah, okay,
I get it. Except for number one, there's no guarantee
that arch Manning is going to come out. Number two,
there are like ten different teams that are probably thinking
the exact same thing. Number three, you would have to
be absolutely horrific to get yourself. I mean, the Colts

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may be an enigma, but I don't think that they're
one of the three worst teams in the league. And
number four, and this is the one that I've said
it before and I'll still say it, and I feel
like I should say it quietly and then run off
the stage. You know you've seen the ESPN thirty for thirty,

(01:11:32):
the Reggie Miller in The Knicks thirty for thirty where
Donnie Walsh talks about when he drafted Reggie Miller and
he came out and he said, I came out and
I said, it's Reggie Miller, and I ran off the
stage because he knew everybody wanted Steve Alford. So I'm
going to say this and then run off the stage.
I'm not certain arch Manning would sign here. Now, Is
that too hot a hot take? I saw you roll

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your eyes, Eddie.

Speaker 4 (01:11:53):
No.

Speaker 1 (01:11:54):
If you look at Eli Manning was drafted by the
Chargers and Archie Manning was like, no, you're not. He's
not gonna play there, and so they traded him to
New York. And I understand, I don't know this in
any way, shape or form. I don't know. I'm not
giving like some sort of insight like I'm telling you, folks,
I'm just saying my inner curiosity. That's a better way

(01:12:16):
of saying it. Like inner curiosity is.

Speaker 2 (01:12:19):
With arch Manning, your freudy in thinking.

Speaker 1 (01:12:21):
Yes, I think Peyton Manning has only been hurt truly
once in his career, and it was by being released
by the Colts. And I think that's still it still
is there. I just think it is anyway, Texas number one,
Penn State, Ohio State, the other big ten teams here.

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Oregon is seventh, excuse me, is seventh, Illinois is twelfth,
Michigan fourteenth, Indiana twenty and there is your Big ten representation.
Now there's going to be Eddie and this is another
fun game that we could play. There is going to
be some team in the College Football.

Speaker 2 (01:13:03):
Playoff, USC just on the outside looking in, by the.

Speaker 1 (01:13:06):
Way, which is you would think USC would be. I mean,
how are they not a top ten perenniallygue team? But
there is always a team that just who is this
year's Indiana or Arizona State? Who is this year's Indiana
or Arizona State or SMU? There were three? Would you agree?
Those were the three that going into the season. It's

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like nobody would have picked those three in the College
Football playoff?

Speaker 5 (01:13:30):
Right?

Speaker 1 (01:13:30):
Yeah? Right? So who are the three this year?

Speaker 2 (01:13:34):
Hmmm?

Speaker 1 (01:13:35):
I mean, you can't say any of those teams that
I just mentioned that are I mean, you can't say
a ranked team, right, because were any of those three
ranked at the beginning of last year?

Speaker 2 (01:13:45):
No? I don't think so.

Speaker 1 (01:13:47):
SMU.

Speaker 2 (01:13:47):
Maybe I don't think they were ranked Week one.

Speaker 1 (01:13:54):
I mean, it's not going to be anybody out of
the Okay, could it be Louisville? Is Louisville gonna be good?

Speaker 2 (01:14:02):
Maybe you could see it though, I mean, Jeff Brown's
had success before.

Speaker 1 (01:14:09):
Cincinnati. I'm just thinking like some random team from a
league till you know, seemingly is open. Hey, don't mess
with macxin.

Speaker 2 (01:14:19):
I'm being serious.

Speaker 1 (01:14:20):
Hey, listen, how smart is the MAC? I think the
MAC is really smart as a league because they own
that Thursday. I mean, I mean it's usually Thursday night right.

Speaker 2 (01:14:31):
There, Thursday.

Speaker 1 (01:14:31):
I think it's whatever n I did is they're the
only thing on. So would you normally watch a kent
Akron game except for that, like oftentimes in November on
a Thursday night when it's forty two and sleeping outside,
there's nothing else on, and you end up watching it
because it's like thirty eight to thirty five late in
the game, and you end up watching it. I mean,

(01:14:51):
there's they're smart Central Florida. I'm just throwing out teams,
but I am intrigued in the Big Ten back to
seriousness of a couple of teams that typically you think
of as being pretty good programs that have been down
and I'm curious how they were a bound notably for example,

(01:15:12):
like Michigan State.

Speaker 2 (01:15:13):
Ugh, there're program in the Big Ten that's fallen off like.

Speaker 1 (01:15:18):
That, totally, I but but Michigan State has never fallen
off into sustained irrelevance, right and so and they're they're
kind of teetering on that right now.

Speaker 2 (01:15:30):
Uh, definitely.

Speaker 1 (01:15:33):
I've always liked Michigan State because and look, I get
the Larry Nasser stuff. I mean, there were some ugly
things that happened there as a university athletic department, but
I've always felt like Michigan State is just where, like
I don't know this, but every normal person I've met
from Michigan I mentioned this before as a Michigan State fan,
just like normal that's cool people, you know, like, yeah,

(01:15:55):
I like Michigan State. They're cool, like their their life
doesn't rise and set on Michigan State, but they enjoy him,
they root for him. They're cool. But like they're not over.
They're not Ohio State.

Speaker 2 (01:16:06):
I mean there was a stretch there where they were,
you know, churning out.

Speaker 1 (01:16:10):
Oh they were better than Michigan. Yes, on a regular yes,
on the regular. You know, there are I think of
Michigan State in that Iowa tier right where every four
or five years they have a ten win team that's
a senior laden team that puts together and then the

(01:16:30):
rest of the time they are legitimate eight to nine
like you know, Capital One Bowl or Gator Bowl caliber team.
But they've been terrible lately, I mean terrible.

Speaker 2 (01:16:41):
Who was the coach got that massive extension after one year?

Speaker 1 (01:16:44):
I knew you were going to say, was it meil something?
And he had a he was sending naughty messages right
to like the secretary wasn't he a caller on the phone,
like on the road laidl Tucker Mel Tucker. Yeah, how
long did he laugh? He got what forty nine million?

(01:17:04):
I mean, honestly, he got a huge It was a
huge contract, and I think he lasted was it one
or two years and then was gone. And at the
time that he that's what's so funny about coaching. There
are always those coaches where it's hanging in the balance
of the possibility they're going to leave, and everybody freaks out,
and they parlay that into a big time contract.

Speaker 2 (01:17:22):
Ten here's ninety five million.

Speaker 1 (01:17:23):
Dollars and how much that was guaranteed?

Speaker 2 (01:17:27):
That extension was signed in twenty twenty one. No terms
were announced on the.

Speaker 1 (01:17:33):
I thought I read somewhere that he got like a
forty nine million dollar by I could be wrong. Even
ten years ninety five million, I mean, unbelievable. And and
he didn't make it like a year into that, right.

Speaker 2 (01:17:47):
So twenty three is when he was let go.

Speaker 1 (01:17:49):
And what year did he sign it? Twenty one? Yeah,
so he made it two years of that, I mean, brutal.
I have a question for Eddie that I realize is
something thats a brutal. You got paid well, I know,
but think about what he might have missed out on.
There is something within the world of sports as a
sports fan that I have concerns, and sometimes I think

(01:18:11):
it's just that I'm getting old. And then I realized
that perhaps even a young buck like Eddie can validate
that I'm not as old as I think, because what
it is that is confusing me is confusing the masses.
I'm told I met my wits end. I'm totally confused
at this point. And I'll let you know what it
is and we will all walk hand in hand through
the abyss of unknown in terms of being a sports

(01:18:34):
fan in one particular area, and Mike Chapple joins us
to talk about the other unknown, which is the Colts
quarterback situation. He will do so too. Okay, Eddie, you
had mentioned, and not to put you on the spot
here to have you go back to it. I don't
know if you just saw this, if it was something
you saw over the weekend or an article, but I

(01:18:57):
can't be the only one one who feels this way,
and I would like for people to know. By the way,
we have a new way that you could text to
the station and the show at two three nine ten
seventy two three nine one zero seven zero. You can
set a text to that and we will try to

(01:19:20):
respond over the course of the show. Then obviously after
hours you can text me. I think everybody at this
point has my cell phone number, but I'm curious if
I'm the only one that feels this way. Eddie. You
had mentioned that there is now a new partnership between
ESPN and FS one that may be taking place as
that correct, and you can paraphrase what it is that

(01:19:41):
you were trying to say earlier too.

Speaker 2 (01:19:43):
ESPN announced shortly before we started the show, h Jake,
that ESPN and Fox I've reached an agreement giving fans
the opportunity to purchase ESPN's upcoming direct to consumer service
and Fox one together. Each service becomes available individual on
August twenty first, with a combined bundle available on October

(01:20:05):
the second. Okay, here's my The bundle will be forty
dollars a month.

Speaker 1 (01:20:17):
I'm curious if this makes me simply old, or if
I am the normal American now Hulu, Hubble or whatever
it's called Disney plus ESPN, which might be Disney plus Paramount,

(01:20:39):
Amazon Prime, Apple TV, Peacock Peacock, which I think did
Peacock go away? Maybe I know I can't keep straight
in track of any of it anymore. I honestly can't.
I can't remember who's bundled with what. I can't remember
what I'm paying for and what I'm not. I have

(01:21:00):
where I live, and I know people are like, well,
just get a firestick or whatever. I'm not going to
say the name of it, but the zip code where
I live there is only one cable provider. And yes,
I still have cable right but it has there's only
one cable provider. This week, I get a notification that
says I've got a FedEx package coming. I'm like, what

(01:21:21):
is this? And this FedEx package comes and it's some
new box. It's like, here's your new streaming box. So
I guess instead of cable now I'm streaming. I have
no idea, and so I'm like, well, I guess I
got to go look and see what it is that
I like signed up for with that in terms of
my just regular otherwise old school jailhouse cable, but in.

Speaker 2 (01:21:44):
Terms of wait, you're on an antenna.

Speaker 1 (01:21:48):
Exactly, I'm like one step from that. But in terms
of kidding aside in particular sports viewership and in terms
of sports ingesting, whether it be like I'm old enough
to remember, you know, the way I became a Clemson
football fan. I've told the story before, But when I

(01:22:11):
started really rooting for them and watching them a lot
was when I was in college, primarily, and I would
get the satellite coordinates and at channel six, I would
have the satellite operators move one of the huge satellite
dishes into the coordinates so that I could watch what
was being beamed into the sky old school away and

(01:22:32):
via satellite. Remember back in the days when people had
like big satellite dishes in their yard and they're like, yeah,
I was watching the expos Padres game, fell asleep but
woke up to French porn what and like? But now
obviously I know that everything is available no matter what
your interest level. I mean, if you are a fan
of Australian rugby, there is a channel out there that

(01:22:56):
is nothing but Australian rugby for you. But now it's
becoming all a la carte and I can't keep straight
and keep track of where all the places are where
I'm supposed to be watching things. It is a challenge

(01:23:17):
I can only imagine. I mean, you know I have
mentioned that about a month ago or so. You know,
my dad had a health issue, a health scare that
as a family, you know, we're still working with him
on that. I mean, thankfully he is okay and improving,
but it's a long process. And one of the things

(01:23:39):
that he looks forward to more than anything is he
loves watching Fever games. He's a big fan of the fever.
And I'll be honest with you, Eddie, like especially when
you're in a hospital room, but like trying to find
and wade through with each respective game which place it
is there on is especially for somebody who has a
lot of other stuff going on, but for teams in general,

(01:24:04):
the different bundles, the different packages, the different places it is.
You tell me, Eddie, am I completely out of touch that?
To me, it is becoming harder and harder to keep
track of all of it.

Speaker 2 (01:24:18):
No, and it's becoming more and more expensive, Jake, because
as you outline, I mean, you've got you know, ESPN
Plus will have specific games eventually during the NFL season. Again,
probably you've got Netflix, that's a part of this. So
you've got Netflix ESPN plus, Apple TV plus, I mean,

(01:24:38):
Amazon Prime. I mean, the list goes on like there's
gonna be it's something new every year, and like I
would have, there's got to be somebody out there and
if if you're listening and you know of and you've
seen something, you know, tweet this ads Quary Underscore company,
there's got to be somebody out there who's done a
financial breakdown on how much it's going to cause totally
just to watch the NFL this year totally.

Speaker 1 (01:24:58):
And I mean obviously red Zone. Now you know ESPN
at this point is and I get it. I mean
you know they are. They're becoming monopoly though on a
lot of different things, right yeah, but I just you know,
it is not just not just with sports, but just

(01:25:21):
in general, because I can't keep track of like there is,
thankfully on the iPhone a way that you can look
at your monthly subscriptions and find out what you like
signed up for at some point and what you're paying
out and it's like, well, wait a minute, I don't
need that. I don't want I mean, I have so
many of them that I'm like, I don't need that.
Why am I paying for that? And they're it's just

(01:25:43):
it's getting it is to me, getting really hard. Yeah, Jake,
loyalty to a team is impossible when you need an
advocus to know which team, which channel a team is on. Yeah.
I don't disagree with that at all. Totally agree with that.
I mean, you know, it's and I do worry that,

(01:26:09):
and I get it. It's all about money, I get it,
But I and the TV dollar is what pays the
salaries of players that allows I get all of it.

Speaker 2 (01:26:17):
Are we gonna get to the point, Chick, where it's
all becoming too much and cable becomes the the way
to go?

Speaker 1 (01:26:22):
And yet you go back to the basics, Yeah, there's
a that's entire Yeah, who knows, right.

Speaker 2 (01:26:26):
Because I mean, this partnership with Fox is actually pretty
it's pretty nice because you'll have all the spot of
the Fox channels, all the ESPN channels. It will be
forty dollars a month and you get access to everything
else on Fox. But it doesn't help you, I guess
with CBS.

Speaker 1 (01:26:40):
That's I mean, that's the thing. If you Yeah, well
you're right, because but they're also on NFL network. I mean,
you know what I mean. There you could have your
team could play on four different, five different options over
the course of the year. The other thing that's hard
is just if you're having to then individually pay for
each respective network. I mean, eventually you're just saying, my

(01:27:02):
worry is that this is actually going to hurt the
fandom of some teams because people are then they're either
going to not pay for a year and realize, gosh,
I didn't miss that as much as I thought, or
it's going to be harder to find or whatever else,
and then people just all of a sudden tune out
becomes habit. Mike Chapel, by the way, joins us next

(01:27:24):
new way to Text the radio station at two three
nine ten seventy. I do appreciate this text, and I'm
going to read it just because I was flattered by it. Jake,
you have a special gift and skill being able to
function admirably for the IMS radio network and then be
up most of the night flying home to present a

(01:27:44):
beautiful analogy in life on your radio program. That is
a very kind message. I do very much appreciate it.
I'm also well aware of the fact that yes, I
mean I took a red eye. I mean I got
back at five am, so it wasn't terrible. But there
are people that work real jobs of real significance and
real importance, and certainly talking and talking about sports and

(01:28:06):
things that we witness. It's not manual labor. But that
is a very kind sentiment to say, But I'll disagree
on it being anybody could do it. Admittedly could do
this job, but I am appreciative for the fact that
we've been afforded the opportunity to be the ones to

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do so on this station. Joining us now on the program.
Of course, you hear them each and every week from WXION,
Fox fifty nine and CBS four. Mike Chapel is the
dean of writers covering the Indianapolis Coltson Chapel, let's get
right to the quarterback situation, which will be the dominant
conversation over the season. Feels like again, and this is

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what is an enigma to me, the quarterback battle right
now in Indianapolis feels like when you're at a game
and they have that thing where they're like, okay, we're
gonna do on the video board, the little the little
race between the red ball and the blue ball, and
they intentionally one goes, you know, and that's back and forth,

(01:29:09):
back and forth. It feels like neither one of these
guys wants to reach out and snag this thing. Am
I saying that too critically?

Speaker 5 (01:29:18):
It seems like neither one is capable of it, not
that they don't want to. So depending on so what
we're splitting the hairs on terminology, uh, I don't know.
You know, it could very well be the in the
meeting rooms that change Dyke and Chris Batlet says, yeah,
it's this guy, it is. It's unless this guy gets

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something worse than a dislocated pinky. Uh I don't you know.
And again with with the joint practice on Thursday and
the game on Saturday, it's gonna give them a ton
of information for their information. But gosh, I think they
really in there gets know what they want. I just

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do so I don't know, And whether or not they
will make their decision after this week, I would like
to think so, although again, like you say, the two
little horses on the thing are neither one is pulled
ahead or fallen behind. This isn't where you want to be.

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There's no way you put a good spin on this.
And hey, you know they're both competing and this, well,
that's not you know, that's not what you want. You
want somebody to be your guy Cleveland. They're they're going crazy.
Where should ur Sanders? That's going to be one of
the dumbest media inventions of all time that he's first
round making. Now he's not, so we'll see. But in
our world, I don't know where they are. I think

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in my heart that they know what's going to happen,
I really do, But when will they tell us? When
will they share it? I don't know. It would behoove
both players to play well against the Packers both Thursday
and Saturday, just to give them more information and if
more information is needed.

Speaker 1 (01:31:02):
Yeah. The the thing about and I guess Chap, We've
said this a lot, right with Richardson, it just feels
like you would if you don't go with Richardson, it
feels like you're gonna constantly wonder what you might be
missing out on because you've seen just the glimpses. And

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if you don't go with Jones, it feels like you
are going to feel like you're missing out on stability
because he's just a little bit more. Does that make
sense what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (01:31:33):
Yeah, it's And we talked about all the time on
the sidelines when we get board watching practice is it's
it's it's floor versus ceiling.

Speaker 1 (01:31:42):
Yep.

Speaker 5 (01:31:44):
Jones gives you what you think is a is a gosh,
a winnable, winnable floor maybe, but not not a ceiling
that you didn't really do something. And with Richardson, his
floor could really be bad low. But boy, his ceiling
is it could be something special. The problem that I'm

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having continually buying into the ceiling thing is I've only
got two seasons of information. I'd say three. Go back
to Florida thirteen starts, and there's there's very little there
when you get past the wild plays, and there are
a ton of wild plays there are, and the NFL

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is about wild plays, but it's also about moving the
chains and being really good fifty I remember Manning was
and his those guys are like fifty percent on third downs.
They just stayed on the field. And I don't know.
I think Jones gives you that. I'm not sure Richardson
gives you that, So I don't know. I again, I
defaulted the fact that this is not where you want

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to be with the the opener a couple of weeks away,
and neither guy has either wanted or lost it. And
you need more information, if you need more information, So
I you see, you see snippets in practice, although I've
got to say with Jones, you really don't see. Wow,

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you know that that was that was a throw, although
it was funny yesterday one of the big plays Richardson's get.
It's got Alec Pierce one on one with the corner
on the left side deep and he throws that nice
spiral and it's under throwne and Pierce goes up and
makes a great catch. Uh. There's still more been wild
plays with with just pure armstrength from Richardson, but we've

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seen that that's not enough.

Speaker 1 (01:33:36):
Who has more plays.

Speaker 5 (01:33:40):
Boy there, Richardson probably, although they both had their share.
Looking at my status and all of our stature little
different with me and Kevin Bowen and Jill Erickson. I've
got Richardson about sixty percent completions and Jones at about
seventy one, seventy two percent, and so and make of

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those what you will. I mean, it's it's it's against
your own guys, and and that's eleven on eleven. It's
when there I can playing almost football. So I don't
know if I if I could get fifty eight percent
from Richardson and still get the other stuff, I would
be hit over heels, fix static chap.

Speaker 1 (01:34:18):
I made this mention a couple of times I have,
but you've, you know, you've been in the market, and
so I want you to tell me if this makes sense.
As I watched Anthony Richardson in that pinky play, I
harken back to and I know I'm going on the
way back here, but I go with precedent in this market,

(01:34:39):
I was thinking to myself, I wonder if Anthony Richardson
is just football Jonathan Bender?

Speaker 5 (01:34:45):
Yeah, yeah, I mean, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:34:47):
You know what I mean, Jonathan Bender is Eventually the
Pacers just had to punt on it because his body
just was not going to allow him to show what
it is that he could do. And my question for
you is this, what is that ceiling in the NFL?
How many games in years do you give a guy
before you finally just have to say we got to

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move on here?

Speaker 5 (01:35:11):
Probably three? I mean, I Chris Baller pushed back on it,
but I tend to go into the idea that this
this is make or break for richards I do. I
believe that you know what was funny too is and
I was one of the people I questioned Shane Steinken
for not going with this starting offensive line and that

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if you're gonna have Jones and Richardson out there, then
then dog, I don't have your starters out there. But
that wouldn't have mattered. That had nothing to do with
him getting hurt. It's something that he should have seen
coming and he didn't. And then this is like, this
is like classic Anthony Richardson. He didn't just get blown up.
He got his finger smashed. You know, any other quarterback
maybe you just want to got you know, sack that

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gets up and say, man, I messed that one up.
He gets a dislocated finger, because of course he did.
I think, boy, after three years, if you're hanging on
after three years, I'm trying to think what the circumstances
would be. Well, he's always hurt. What that tells you something,
doesn't it? And and if he and if Jones wins

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the job this year and he plays well enough and
they're ten and seven or nine and eight and they're
right there, then what have you got with Richardson. Then
you don't know that well, you know that he couldn't
beat out Daniel Jones, and that tells you something. So yeah,
I think it's I think for if you don't know

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after three years, then what then? What what are you?
What are you looking for? And how much of it is?

Speaker 4 (01:36:44):
Boy?

Speaker 5 (01:36:44):
We just can't give up on me? Well, at some
point you have to, especially a quarterback, because just dug
on it. When you're waiting on the quarterback to be
the guy, you're wasting. Jonathan Taylor and Quinton Nelson and
the Forrest Buckner and Kennymore and Braden Smith. All these

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guys are getting older. They're not past their prime at all.
But go back look at what Jacksonville did and not
getting the quarterback right and all the players Maurice Jones,
Drew Fred Taylor, all these players that are really really good,
and when you can't get the quarterback right, it stunts
the growth of the entire franchise. So three years has

(01:37:31):
got to be. It's just I can't imagine the season
coming up not involving a good a good portion of
Anti Richardson and him playing well and him being here
next year. I just I don't I can't rip my
head around him being a back of them going in
when Jones either gets hurt. I don't see how that works.

(01:37:55):
That's why I say, I think you start Richardson against
the and you say, let's see what we got. He
stays healthy, he doesn't, but you know, and then you've
got some direction for the franchise.

Speaker 1 (01:38:08):
Chap One of the things Mike Chapel is our guest
here talking about the Coltson notably at this point Anthony
Richardson in the quarterback situation. I want to be clear
in preface this, Mike, it's going to sound like I'm
really piling on Anthony Richardson, and that's not my intention.
I don't. I have no reason to believe anything other

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than he is a great young guy, a nice kid.
I think his background story is, you know, it's one
of triumph, you know some of the things that not
that he had like this terrible upbringing. But I'm saying,
you know, he didn't grow up with some of the
advantages that young quarterbacks have. But having said all of that,

(01:38:50):
when on the play when he got blown up, here's
what jumped out at me is afterwards, when he said,
you know, that's just a situation where he I got
to mind my p's and q's better, Like I should
have recognized that better or whatever else. And when he
when he tapped out last year and then said I
was tired, I'm not gonna lie to you guys. It

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wasn't the fact that he tapped his helmet and was
tired and came out of the game. It was the
fact that he had to naivitate to admit it, to
admit it, I know, And I felt like in that situation,
I'm like, we're right back to square one, because if
you didn't recognize a formation that was obvious, that's fine,
but don't admit it, like, don't come out and say

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and maybe we should applaud the transparency, but at the
same time, it just shows a lack of fundamental growth
of the expectation and understanding of what the position encompasses. Now,
am I being way too critical?

Speaker 5 (01:39:46):
I think in the situation where he just didn't recognize
the blitz, I think he had to say, Man, I
really watched that one, because you got Kurt Warner saying it,
Chase Daniel saying it, Daniel Rowski saying it that this
is a fundamental play. Cam Turner, his physician coach, said, yeah,
there's a basic play, and you learn from your mistakes.
H you shouldn't make those mistakes in year three. And

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never mind that he's I think I saw he's twenty
three and he would have been the youngest quarterback, right,
he would have been the young I think he's a
little bit younger than cam Ward taking number one overall
this year. That's we can't, you know, and I try.
I got to remind myself not to use that as excuses.
I would prefer now to tap out. I would have

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found a way to say, yeah, I my head, my
headset was bust whatever. I'd have made something up. I
just would have on the botch play. I think you
had to say, yeah, screwed that one up, sorry about that,
because I think it would have been wor that would
have been the cover up. Cover up would have been
worse than the crime. Uh. But you can't it's he

(01:40:52):
has fair or not he has used up his mulligans.

Speaker 1 (01:40:57):
I think, yeah, that's a good way of saying it.

Speaker 5 (01:41:00):
I just think the excuse is now a d Mitchell.
We watch him. He's still got room and he's still
got some Okay, he's still young and learning, not third
year with the quarterback. And you know, again, part of
this lay on the team for not being more on
top of him from the start. But at the same time,
then it's him. He's got to grow and understand grasp things.

(01:41:27):
And I keep hoping he has or will I don't know.
And my optimism. My grandson Levi. He asked me some
things on the team and he said, you know, I'm
still optimistic. I said, but good for you. Good for you.
I'm not. I'm not so you know, oh, to be,

(01:41:49):
to be what I think whatever le Levi is thirteen
or fourteen.

Speaker 1 (01:41:52):
And live like Levi. Man, live like Levi, right.

Speaker 5 (01:41:55):
Yeah, he live like Levi. To be picking top five
next year.

Speaker 1 (01:41:59):
Give me seasons whire or area's chap where Levi is
the way to think because there is optimism. Give me
the Levi areas, honestly, But if you were to look
at it now that you have seen some camp yep,
now that you've seen a preseason game, give me a
player or two or an area or two where you

(01:42:21):
say to yourself, that is a lot better than I
thought it was going to be a month ago.

Speaker 5 (01:42:25):
Well, and you can't tell them from the opening game
because the starters didn't play. They'll play. They'll play more,
maybe in a quarter or a half on Saturday with
the Packers. But a good it's a good receiver room
it is. Is it great? No, but it's pretty good.
It's pretty good. Jonathan Taylor's top five in the league.

Speaker 3 (01:42:42):
He is.

Speaker 5 (01:42:43):
I think the offensive line is going to be good,
I really do. I think that the two young kids
are going to play well, and Quentin Nelson's All Pro,
and the tackles are good. The defense, I think is
going to be good better, certainly better. So I've said
from the start. I think the as a playoff roster,
I really do. I think this USA today came out

(01:43:03):
and had him winning four games. I laughed at the guy,
I thought, what are you talking about? Even if they
get crappy quarterback plays, they're gonna win more and poor games.
But I think it's a playoff roster. But I don't
trust the quarterback play, you know. I still think Vegas
is really good to the over under seven and a half.
And if I had to bet two hundred dollars with

(01:43:23):
my own money, I would have to take thee under
because I don't trust the quarterback play so but no,
there's a lot of reasons to be optimistic except that
the one. It's like, I can give you five reasons
that this team can be a playoff team, and you
can give me one that they won't be in its quarterback.
So the quarterback can The quarterback can trash a roster.

(01:43:46):
He can lift the roster, which we've seen with Peyton,
more so with Luck. I think Peyton had a pretty
dog going good roster. I mean Luck not that level
at all. But the quarterback can can drag you down
or keep you from being where you need to be.
That's why you know God, let's Levi Chapel. He's got

(01:44:07):
some convincing to do before I'm on board with him.
But again, O to be young and naive, give me.

Speaker 1 (01:44:14):
The player, chap When you look at the outside of
Lucas Oil Stadium, I believe the Forrest Buckner's up there.
I believe Quentin Nelson's up there. Kenny Moore I believe
is up there Moore and j T and Jonathan Taylor. Okay, yep,
So give me the player that a year from now,

(01:44:36):
Chris Ballard, assuming he's still here, and Shane Steichen, assuming
he's still here, are going to look at each other
and go, we need to probably talk to Carli Ersay
because you know what, can we create a space to
put him up there? Also because he deserves it after
the year he had and he's a monster.

Speaker 5 (01:44:54):
Bernard Raymond Raymond left tackle, I left tack. It's not
a flashy pick. But I would say the left tackle.
H Taylor's a receiver. I'd like these receivers. I don't.
I don't like the side of the building like him,
not like t y Uh maybe Mooney Ward. But he

(01:45:19):
need to have he needs to have two good years.
You just don't have a good year and get your face,
put up, your body put up there. But of all
those guys, I would say Bernie right, and I think
he's he's borderline top ten left tackle. And I've always said,
if you're building a roster, the three priorities are quarterback,
left tackle, and edge pass rusher. And I would put

(01:45:41):
the left tackle ahead of a dage rusher because because
if he ain't got a left tackle, your quarterback is
just paralyzed. So I wouldn't. I would think the next
guy up there is Bernie. Whether they won't create a fifth,
but there was somebody because are.

Speaker 1 (01:45:58):
We starting to see steps from.

Speaker 5 (01:46:03):
He having a strained camp. I mean, I would rather
be enthused by a guy from training camp in the
same man I didn't notice wasn't play that guy made.
He's in the backfield all the time, and again, I
think this is a decent offensive line, so he's really
letting him have it pretty good. I want to see
him as the lights go on and see if those

(01:46:24):
near missus door ended up with four sacks or whatever it was,
turns into eight, nine, ten, because that's what they need.
And I think Bernie's Bernie to me is more of
a sure thing than lat Too. But what we've seen
him from law to the best players in camp, the
best players have been ad Mitchell and lat Too, and

(01:46:46):
you could put the two and I wouldn't argue with
you too much, but it's camp. I'm glad to see
Mitchell having a strong camp after last season and even
after his first week which it wasn't which was underwhelming,
But those two guys a lot two have dominated from
day one on and I hope that carries over into
the season.

Speaker 1 (01:47:08):
You know, Chap, sometimes you can see things right before
your eyes and realize that it's a representation of the
bigger problem or the bigger talking point. And I mentioned
this last week, but I want you to weigh in
and tell me why I'm being too harsh. But when
I think about every franchise in the NFL, and if

(01:47:31):
the NFL put an edict on every franchise that said
you've got to put your four most marquee backbone players
on a building sized mural in your downtown to excite
everybody about your upcoming season, I've got to think that
there are fewer than eight franchises that would not include
their quarterback. I know how indicting is that about where

(01:47:53):
the cults are?

Speaker 5 (01:47:55):
It is it is, that's kind of be you know it.
It shouldn't be a I should say a defensive alignment
because the four spuctor's good. He's good. But it's got
to be a quarterback for current out loud. And that's
not because we were spoiled by meaning luck. I mean,
you know, there's a lot of other franchises that didn't

(01:48:17):
have that level of quarterback that they had a good quarterback.
It is an indictment and everyone knows it. And that's
why I think they're clinging. They are clinging to the
hope that Richardson will grow into that guy. I just
think it's the odds they're against it. But yeah, when

(01:48:39):
you have four people up there and one of them
is not your quarterback, it tells you that you're not
where you need to be as a franchise.

Speaker 1 (01:48:44):
Who do you think is the most average quarterback in
the NFL? And by that I mean, I don't mean
that as a bad thing. Give me the Honda Civic
of quarterbacks. The guy that's like, you know what, there's
nothing flashy about it, but solid, gonna do what you
need him to do, going to get you where you
need to go. Isn't ever going to break one hundred
and twenty miles an hour, but also is never going
to break down on the side of the road and

(01:49:04):
leave you completely hapless. Just solid. But you know you
need some other bells and whistles and options put on
it for it to be a truly likable car, but
perfectly sufficient.

Speaker 5 (01:49:18):
Well, you're showing me your heads up. A geno Smith
type guy that.

Speaker 1 (01:49:21):
Is exactly who I was thinking of, Exactly who I
was thinking.

Speaker 5 (01:49:24):
Of, Sam Darnold. And those are reclamation projects.

Speaker 1 (01:49:29):
Right they are. And that's why I wonder if Anthony
Richardson is Anthony Richardson the next GENO Smith unfortunately meeting
that he's not doing it for the franchise that drafted him.

Speaker 5 (01:49:38):
That's what I'm saying, That's what I'm saying. Yeah, those guys,
the guys we mentioned, they emerged elsewhere. Baker Mayfield, now,
Baker Mayfield is not pedestrian at all. Uh, He's top
ten all of a sudden. But that's and again that's
part of the the hesitancy of moving on is you
don't want to see any of your players, but don't

(01:50:00):
root against me if you're the Colts, but you know,
it's not good to see your guy go somewhere else
because you didn't sit here, and then he's Jerry Hughes
didn't work here, he goes to Buffalo and he was
a pretty good pass rusher. Look good for Jerry, but
you really don't want to see a quarterback, you know,
I give up on him after If he's not here
after three years, it's because it did not work out.

(01:50:22):
But then to see him go somewhere else and do
a Sam Darnold or a Baker Mayfield it's just crippling
because that means you missed on him in your eyes,
and then you got to replace him. It's hard enough
to replace a lot, It's hard enough to replace Castanjo
Freeny Mathis Boy. To replace your quarterback no one. You're

(01:50:44):
not going to get Andrew Rucker Peyton, but you've not
got anything even remotely reliable. It just cripples you. I've
always said the worst thing in the NFL personnel wise
is to chase mistakes. It just because it's you need
a left tackle. Instead of getting the pass rusher, you
have to get a left tackle, and with the quarterback. Again,

(01:51:07):
look at all the guys. Tennessee's tried, and Jackville's tried,
and the Jets have tried, and when you can't, when
you don't get it, it just stunts the growth of everything.
And then not only do the stunt the growth, you're
still chasing the guy. So that's why part of why
it really needs to be Richardson, because because if it's not,

(01:51:29):
then you're looking at a rebuild that might be two
or three years. You think the fan base is ready
for that.

Speaker 1 (01:51:36):
I don't Forty twenty yards passing seventy point four percent
completion percentage, twenty one touchdowns and fifteen picks, an additional
two hundred and seventy two yards on the ground and
two rushing touchdowns. That was Gino Smith a year ago.
If Anthony Richardson does that this year, put them on
the side of the JW.

Speaker 5 (01:51:55):
Marriott, Right, yeah, with Velcro, so you could take it
down Winy.

Speaker 1 (01:52:01):
No, but you're right there, Velcros what he's made of.
Chap that's the problem.

Speaker 5 (01:52:05):
You don't have to you don't have to have an
all pro season. You know, four thousand yards will be
great in a seventeen game season. But dog gone, just
be do your job, make those six, eight, ten plays
when you've got to make, and then and then see
what happens. Because again, this is a good team. This

(01:52:26):
isn't Homers, and this is look at the roster, the
good roster. But like I said, five reasons they can
do it is trump by the one reason that they
can't do it, And it's all about the quarterback, like
it or not, and it will be the rest of
the season. It just will be.

Speaker 1 (01:52:43):
Put them up in Valcro. Mike Chapel says, all right,
the Colts getting set afternoon practice today. J ANDV is
going to be out there by the way, and then
the Green Bay Packers that is the next preseason game
joint practice on Thursday. Is that right with the Packers?

Speaker 5 (01:52:57):
Yepy afternoon?

Speaker 1 (01:52:58):
Yep, all right, Chapel, you get to it, man. I
appreciate the time.

Speaker 5 (01:53:01):
As always say in touch guys.

Speaker 1 (01:53:03):
All right, Mike Chappele joining us wxin Fox, mcdonnine and
CBS four we come back. College football Top twenty five
is out. We'll let you know where. Yes, Notre Dame
and Indiana rank, and Eddie explains further why you might
be able to save money or maybe even spend more
money to watch the NFL it gets convoluted. We'll get

(01:53:24):
into that next. Okay, college football preseason AP Top twenty five, Eddie,
you do or do not put stock into like college
football preseason rankings. They're fun, right, but none none.

Speaker 2 (01:53:39):
I don't put not a ton.

Speaker 1 (01:53:44):
Texas is number one, followed by Penn State, Ohio State, Clemson,
and Georgia. Notre Dame is sixth, Indiana is twentieth.

Speaker 2 (01:53:54):
If Texas does not have arch me inning and it's
you know, Jake Query a quarterback? Are they number one still?
It's a good question, like does the name of arch
Manning carry more weight thinking that he's going to be
better than what he could be or why he is.

Speaker 1 (01:54:11):
Yeah, except for that, they are pretty loaded, and they
were a year ago, you know, even when and I
know he was put in just like in fourth short
you know, in like short yardage situations. And it's not
like Quen you ors there's anything to scoff at, but
they had Your point is well taken. They're probably third

(01:54:33):
to fifth. I mean realistically it is. Are Clemson and
Penn State legitimately top five teams? Or is it because
they're you just expect it, right, I mean Penn State,
like I said, every year, I mean every year like clockwork.
Let me tell you right now a situation that is
going to present itself for every person listening to my

(01:54:56):
voice right now. It is a guarantee. I've never been
more sure of anything in my life than I am
this fact. Okay, I've never been more certain of anything
in my life than I am this fact, and that

(01:55:17):
is that on November the first, you're gonna be not
at a haunted house because it's a day after Halloween,
but maybe doing something Halloween related or whatever it might be,
and about eight thirty at night. You're going to come
back on Saturday after dinner on November first, and you

(01:55:39):
are the game of the week is going to be
Penn State Ohio State, and you're gonna be super excited
because Ohio State is gonna be unbeaten and you're like,
oh my gosh, here it is. You know, Penn State
is going to knock up Ohio State and give us
all reprieve and oh my gosh, I just turn it
on and Penn State is leading Ohio State thirteen to

(01:56:01):
three in the third quarter and then they're going to
lose thirty to thirteen. This happens every year. I've said
it before. There is no more predictable thing in all
of college football than Penn State. Having Ohio State down
through two and a half quarters. You think that Ohio
State is going to get their first loss, and then
they come back and they beat Penn State, and then

(01:56:21):
Penn State goes on to lose two of their next
five games and go to the Outback Bowl. It is literally,
I've never been more certain about anything in my life
than I am. That fact that is the biggest rite
of passage of college football. Now, let me read for
you the top twenty five Eddie, And I want you
to tell me if you were Rip van Winkle and

(01:56:42):
you just woke up from a thirty year nap, who
is the team outside of Indiana that you would literally go, wait,
what they're ranked? Where? Okay, Texas, Penn State, Ohio State, Clemson, Georgia,
Notre Dame, Oregon, Alabama, LSU, Miami, Arizona State, Illinois, South Carolina, Michigan,
in Florida, SMU, Kansas State, Oklahoma, Texas A and m Indiana,

(01:57:03):
Old miss Iowa State, Texas Tech, Tennessee and Boise State.
Which of those is the one that's like what Arizona State?
Way up there? They used to be. Arizona State kind
of used to be like a Penn State where they
would get ranked really high in the preseason and have
like some big game in Sun Devil Stadium and Jake

(01:57:25):
Plumbers the quarterback, and then they would lose and you
never hear from him again. But yes, but they were
good last year. Who drafted that kid for Arizona State
the Mescatabo, Yes, New York which New York Giants. So
he's playing with your.

Speaker 2 (01:57:39):
Buddy Yeah, he's hurt right now. Not Tyrone camps Cattabo.
You think he's going to be a player, who cam, Yes,
I think he will play. Yeah, I mean he was
really good last year at Arizona State. South Carolina's intriguing.
At thirteen, they've actually kind of quietly become pretty good.
They got an interest staying, an intriguing quarterback. And Leonora's sellers.

Speaker 1 (01:58:05):
Tell me about Leonore what's interesting and intriguing.

Speaker 2 (01:58:08):
He's one of those guys, Jake, that's the typical, you know,
Jalen Milrod type, Lamar Jackson type. He's got the arm,
and he's got the legs, he's got you know, size.
He's like Anthony Richardson in some sense. I mean, i'd
have to compare them in.

Speaker 1 (01:58:23):
Terms of heightened wave. You know his uh, his parents
so have a fruit stand, a roadside fruit stand. Did
you know that? Really it's called the seller's market. Okay,
you're done, Okay, you're done, okay, Archie, No, he actually
you're right, he was. He is very slippery. Is that
the best way of saying it? So?

Speaker 2 (01:58:43):
Richardson sixty four forty four This year sellers six three
two forty So yeah, they're very similar. He three for
twenty five hundred yards last year, eighteen touchdowns, seven interceptions,
and he was on the full time starter a year ago.

Speaker 3 (01:58:55):
Either.

Speaker 1 (01:58:55):
Yeah, he torched Clemson. I remember that he's slippery. It's
the best way of saying up. Okay. The other thing
that we talked about earlier, so FS one and ESPN
are bundling together. Is that right? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:59:08):
Fox Sports is bundling with ESPN. So essentially what's gonna
happen is they're creating a bundle to where you can
get all the ESPN platforms ESPN, ESPN two, ESPN three,
ESPNU SEC plus all that stuff and then the Fox
Sports side of things. So you'll get you get your
local Fox station, Fox Sports one, Fox Sports two, Fox

(01:59:32):
I think Fox News and Fox Weather Channel and all
that stuff. Is it whatever's included in Fox one and
thing is what they call it. Forty dollars a month
for that bundle and that'll be coming in October.

Speaker 1 (01:59:46):
But what if you have Okay again I'm a moron,
and it pardon me for being a moron, But if
you still have like I do, just regular cable, are
all of these still? Yes? So this is for so
if you are bundling, so part of my ignorance here,

(02:00:11):
so the bundle of FS one and ESPN. This is
for people who are stream only that don't have a
regular cable for the cord color cutter. Yeah, and I
get it. The thing I guess my question is this
the cord cutters that remember, like six years ago, when
everyone was cutting the cord and people were it was

(02:00:34):
a real trendy thing to knock on the decreased television
ratings of the NFL. And I kept trying to tell everybody,
and they thought I was just carrying the NFL's water,
but I kept saying, guys, you're missing the boat here.
You're talking about and critiquing on the drop in NFL ratings,

(02:00:54):
but what you're not equating for is the number of
people that are cutting the cord and watching it elsewhere.
At that time, they were not factored into overall ratings.
Now are we starting to see And I'm the first
to admit, I'm just I'm a creature of habit. It's
not that I don't know how to do these things

(02:01:14):
or don't want to learn how to do I am
I gonna learn that stuff prett quickly. But I'm a
creature a habit. I have a TV, I have a
cable box. Where I live. There's only one cable provider
in the zip code I live. And I've never gone
to the streaming thing or whatever else because I'm not
home at my residence. Enough truth be told, Shannon's got
every channel known to man, right, I mean, she's a
TV Like. I walked in the other day and I'm like,

(02:01:36):
what are you watching? And she's like, I'm watching the
Real Housewives at Bangladesh And I'm like, well, I knew
they do that in Orange County. She's like, oh, no,
this is Bangladesh television.

Speaker 5 (02:01:43):
I'm watching.

Speaker 1 (02:01:43):
Okay, fine, some channel she has. Now, having said all
of that, are we started. Are we entering into the
area where people who cut the cord for cost purposes
and began doing only streaming are now going to bounce
back to the old way because the streaming thing has
become as expensive, if not more so than cable.

Speaker 2 (02:02:04):
Just wonder if they think I'm a moron when they're
going through all that, Jake, I can see it happening.
Could you like, you're paying forty dollars a month for
you know, ESPN and Fox together. Yeah, I mean what
else you're paying. But that's that's what I mean.

Speaker 1 (02:02:19):
And then you get between you know, Apple TV and
Prime and Netflix and et cetera, et cetera. You know
what I mean. Paramount what's that paramount? That's another one,
and paramount is the Okay, so paramount is all the
CBS properties, right, Yep? Peacock is all the NBC properties? Yep?

(02:02:41):
Is Peacock still around?

Speaker 2 (02:02:42):
It is?

Speaker 1 (02:02:45):
What's the one that went away? I thought there was
one that started to go that that they've gone away from. Hulu.
Hulu is still around though, right.

Speaker 2 (02:02:54):
Hulu is now with in terms of all their streaming
not streaming stuff, but like all their shows is looped
with Disney Plus.

Speaker 1 (02:03:02):
Okay, and then Disney But Disney Plus is ESPN. So
if you have Disney Plus, now you have Disney plus ESPN.
Who like and and FS one? Right?

Speaker 2 (02:03:12):
Uh no, that's only if you do the bundle with
See this is a prime example Jan of you and
what you said earlier.

Speaker 1 (02:03:19):
I'm a moron in what way?

Speaker 2 (02:03:23):
I'm just kidding.

Speaker 1 (02:03:24):
No, I don't disagree.

Speaker 2 (02:03:25):
You said, the Fox Sports one and the ESPN stuff
is only going to be like the whatever the direct
to consumer thing is that ESPN's talking about, so like
their ESPN channels and then Fox sports is channels, so
like that will not be included in with your Disney Plus.
It's just ESPN and it's just Fox canning.

Speaker 1 (02:03:41):
But Disney Plus has ESPN, right, So if you have
Disney Plus with ESPN, you don't need the bundle with
ESPN and Fox right.

Speaker 2 (02:03:51):
No, I think if I'm understanding you correctly. No, Okay,
hold on ESPN Plus separate from Disney Plus.

Speaker 1 (02:04:03):
Okay, hear me out. My name is Jake, I subscribe
to I have been committed to jail. In my jail cell,
the only thing I can view is anything on Disney Plus.

Speaker 2 (02:04:15):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (02:04:16):
Will I be able to see ESPN?

Speaker 4 (02:04:18):
No?

Speaker 1 (02:04:21):
I will see no ESPN stuff on Disney Plus.

Speaker 2 (02:04:24):
No, because Disney Plus just contains like the Disney shows,
the Disney movies, the shows and stuff that Hulu has. Uh,
you're looking at like your Marvel stuff Star Wars. I
think is in There.

Speaker 1 (02:04:39):
Wasn't there a time where ESPN was connected to Disney Plus.

Speaker 2 (02:04:42):
ESPN owns Disney Plus.

Speaker 1 (02:04:44):
I understood a part of the old I'm fairly certain
that as a Disney Plus subscriber, at least mobilely speaking,
that allows you access to watch mobile games on ESPN.

Speaker 2 (02:04:55):
I don't believe.

Speaker 1 (02:04:56):
So okay, So I I'm Jake Querry. I've been committed
to jail and I need to see ESPN. Now. The
bundle that I would need to buy is the ESPN
Fox Bundle. Correct, Yes, And that's the only place that
I would be able to see ESPN if i'm if
I'm streaming.

Speaker 2 (02:05:15):
No, I mean that is one of the three different
avenues you have, Like there's so many avenues now with
ESPN Plus to have access to ESPN, you can just
do ESPN Plus and you have access to all the
ESPN channels. You can do ESPN and Disney Plus, ESPN
and Fox.

Speaker 1 (02:05:31):
But again I thought you said Disney Plus doesn't have ESPN. No,
there's a bundle with esp what you're saying. And so
this is like going through the cafeteria. Yes, and you
can pick up this and put it on your tray,
this and put it on your tray whatever. Right, Yes, Okay,
I'm telling you. I can't be the only one though

(02:05:51):
that finds it. And again part of it is because
I don't need it, because I have I came up
package that as everything, but like, and I'm not home
that often. But I can't be the only one though,
that finds this after a while where you're just like, man,
now it's become so convoluted and non no longer cost
effective if you will, or then again, maybe in fact,

(02:06:12):
I'm just a moron. So Eddie, I just realized in
this conversation. Yeah, I think I told you, like my
cable provider just sent me like a new box last week.
I'm like, what is this? So that has caused me
to now just now go in because it's been a
while to have done this and look and see, like, actually,

(02:06:33):
what I'm paying for. I mean, this is like the
biggest scam ever, not literally, but the amount that I'm
paying and I have no idea what all I'm paying for.
It just says internet TV, and the amount I'm like, wait,
but I'm paying that a month is like almost two
and a half times what I remember signing up for.

(02:06:54):
And I'm sure there's some fine print that I signed
up for something like every six months we will upgrade
you to this and that I mean, I'm probably I
don't even know, but I'm guessing that without even knowing it,
I'm probably paying an additional eighteen bucks a month for
Icelandic comics. You know what I mean, there's probably some
channel that I have no idea what the hell it
is on here, But I mean, this is like absurd.

(02:07:19):
I like watching TV at home, but not this much.
I mean, come on, man.

Speaker 2 (02:07:22):
Shout out to Brian, who texted us Jake three one, seven, two, nine,
ten seventy. By the way, that conversation reminded U Brian
of a different version of Who's on First.

Speaker 1 (02:07:31):
Totally I get it. I mean, it's it is confusing
as hell, Like I just there is part of me.
This is a company I should start. There's a company
I should start a company where you go on it,
you push one button and it just cleanses out everything
and you start from scratch. Because I don't I mean,
at this point the number of different things I'm subscribing

(02:07:53):
to and paying too for different services, I'm like, I
don't know, man, Just it'd be great if you if
there's a company you go you and you just go, Okay,
here's what I want. I want to be able to
see these four channels in these five sports, Okay, boom,
then there you go. They're set up right here and
here's where it is. But it just feel I can't
be the only one that feels like all the streaming
stuff is just like these little storms spiraling all over

(02:08:15):
the place, and I'm like, I don't I can't grasp
or put my arms around what it is that I bought.
At this point, what's a.

Speaker 2 (02:08:20):
Good thing you have Shannon there to do that all
for you, Jake.

Speaker 1 (02:08:24):
Well, I'm telling you she's got five hundred and ninety channels.
Now I do enjoy one of the channels that she had,
and I think this is on mine as well. At
like midnight, I'll watch not religiously, but if I'm flipping
through the channels there's nothing on all, I'll find myself watching.
That's a good one. But no old reruns of Johnny Carson,
like nineteen eighty two that bring out some actor and like, man,

(02:08:45):
this guy's ancient and you look it up and you're like,
he's forty eight years old. What in the world, Why
is this guy wearing a polyester suit and firing up
a lung dart. It looks like he's ninety. Different era
colts are out in gran Park and Westfield, after noon practice.
That's where JMV is and of course on Thursday the
Green Bay Packers arrive, and then it is Saturday they

(02:09:08):
play or Sunday Saturday. And I am still by the way.
Several people have asked and thank you for that. I
have reached out to see if the youth programs still
would like to accept tickets if people do not use
their preseason tickets, but I've not yet heard from those programs,
so I will let you know when that happens, and

(02:09:30):
we will try to make that happen. Appreciate everybody listening,
Dan Orlovsky earlier today, Mike Chappell as well. We will
be back with you at noon tomorrow. Jay and b
up next from Grand Park and Westfield. I thank you
for listening to Query and Company.

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