Colts vs Broncos Preview + Remembering Purdue's 2000 Rose Bowl Team! Seth Morales, Matt Taylor, and Brandon Krisztal Join!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Big show lined up for you today. As a matter
of fact, as we always do on a Thursday, we're
going to take a road trip today because the Colts
and Broncos are set to tussle coming up on a
later afternoon game this Sunday a Lucas Oil Stadium. We
will go out to Denver and discuss. Matt Taylor will

(00:20):
also join us, so we'll keep it close to home
and the sake of making sure that we are getting
all aspects, all sides of things. We talked to Indiana
earlier this week. We're going to talk a little Purdue
football coming up in today's show. As a matter of fact,
one of the heroes of their two thousand Rose Bowl
team going to join us because that team will be

(00:41):
honored this weekend at ross Aids Stadium. But I begin
with this, something happened on my way to work. Was
driving to work and realized that I needed to stop
for gas. This is obviously not unusual for anyone. And

(01:02):
I stopped at the gas station and there kind of
was just this somber hue, if you will, Like there
just was this kind of incredulous look on the face
of people.

Speaker 2 (01:16):
And.

Speaker 1 (01:18):
You could just feel this I wouldn't say tension, but
uncertainty in the air. And nobody really was saying much.
But there was one guy sitting in his car and
we kind of made eye contact, and he looked up

(01:39):
at me and said, and this is a true story.
He looked up at me and said, you know, we're
actually on the same team. And I said, you're right,
we are. I didn't know him, he didn't know me.
We really have no idea the I have no idea

(02:01):
this guy's family. I have no idea his socioeconomic background.
I don't know. I didn't know anything about him. But
there wasn't much more that needed to be said than
simply we're actually all in the same team. And I said,
you're right, and it made perfect sense. It made perfect

(02:21):
sense based on the temperate of the world in general.
And then I got to thinking about the fact that
I work in sports, and I realized that, like, if

(02:42):
you're going to go to Lucas Oil Stadium this Sunday
and you're going to watch the Colts and the Broncos,
are you going to go to ross Age Stadium and
you're going to watch USC and Purdue. Are you're going
to go tomorrow night? In Bloomington and watch Indiana and
Indiana State. You can find the obvious answer in the
fact that one group of people are rooting for the

(03:04):
Broncos and one group are rooting for the Colts, one
group are rooting for the Trojans, one group is rooting
for the boiler Makers, one group's rooting for the Sycamores,
one group's rooting for the Hoosiers. But in those circumstances,
everyone in the building is a fan of college football,
or everyone in the building is a fan of the
National Football League. And the story of the guy at

(03:26):
the gas station was not today. It was twenty four
years ago today, and it's something that I'll never forget
because on September the eleventh, I was going to work
and I didn't even know if I needed to go
to work. I, like everybody had watched what took place,

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But I worked at a television station here in Indianapolis,
and I remember calling Dave first and Dave saying, I
don't think we're going to have a sportscast tonight. And
you know, the the droplets of uncertainty were all coming
in before all of a sudden it became this really

(04:09):
rainstorm of question and doubt and just everything that took
place in the immediacy following it. But in the initial
reaction it was I don't think we're going to do
a sportscast tonight. Well we didn't end up doing a
newscast for like a week because it was all national coverage,
understandably so, and nobody knew how to react, nobody knew

(04:34):
what to say, nobody knew what the protocol was. We
had never been through this before, at least in this generation,
in this soil, in this country, and that regards to civilians,
in a civilian life. And I did not know anybody
who lost their life twenty four years ago. Today. I

(04:57):
have always there is a a phone call that took
place where a girl and a woman I say girl,
a woman by the name of Melissa Dwhy called nine
one one and wanted to make sure she knew her
fate and she wanted to make sure that the nine
to one one operator let her mother know that she
loved her. And I've always felt like that was a

(05:20):
representation for those of us that didn't personally know someone,
we could all identify with that and connect with Melissa
d Why And I always think about her and her mother.
I have no idea. If her mother is still with us,
lives in New York, I have no idea. But the
point that I'm making long winded is this, during that time,

(05:43):
I went into Channel six because we all went to
whatever our comfort zone was or wherever we felt we
needed to be. A lot of people just went home.
I remember my dad just just showing up. I was
living in my parents' house at the time, and before
I went to Channel six, my dad just coming home.
Everybody just immediately went to wherever they felt they needed

(06:03):
to be on this date twenty four years ago, and eventually,
as a people, and eventually as a community, and eventually
as a country, we began to heal in Mass And
part of how we began to heal in Mass was
through sport. And I remember one of the first sportscasts

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that we did day first, going out and doing a
story on two high school football teams that were scheduled
to play and obviously did not play on the week
after nine to eleven, and instead of playing in a
football game, the two coaches got the two teams together
to go out and do community work within the community.

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And so we did a story on that because that
was kind of our soft re entry into talking about
sports when we just didn't know when the timing was
right to do so. And the reason I bring that
up today, I don't think I need to go into
or elaborate on the political current and climates of today

(07:12):
and the horrific visuals of that in terms of today's era,
other than to say that, just like then, I now
sometimes wonder and am curious about what is the proper
protocol of what needs to be said? And in that

(07:33):
era twenty four years ago, it was sport that unified us.
It was sport to a lot of people that allowed
us to reacclimate back into the American culture. It was
the World Series and President Bush throwing out the first pitch.
It was the World Series and Ray Charles singing America

(07:55):
the Beautiful. It was sport oftentimes that brought us back
into the American culture and lifestyle when we needed it
and were trying to wade through what the proper protocol
was and when I was thinking about today what would
be appropriate to address in regards to events yesterday, in
regards to regards to the visuals of a young person

(08:18):
losing their life over what we can speculate, but not
concretely know was politically motivated. Like then, I didn't know
today what was the proper protocol. And I determined and decided,
and I ask for forgiveness if it's the wrong approach.
But what I decided was that in fact, when these

(08:38):
times come, it is sport that allows people to come together,
find similarity, and find some course of normality and joy
in a world that otherwise can sometimes provide neither. And
so therefore I think the best course of action today

(08:59):
is to simply say, we at this radio station myself
are well aware of not only what today represents historically speaking,
but what today represents currently speaking, and we do our
best to venture through it by finding the common ground
of sport. And that's what we'll discuss today, and we
do so by openly saying that the beauty of it all,

(09:25):
when it comes down to it, that I hope people
can remember, is that life is about and about the
same as those football stadiums. We're sure you can look
at the T shirt of the person cheering on the
other side of the aisle, but in reality you are
both fans of the same sport. And in this country

(09:45):
we can look at things today and realize those things,
but also do so by knowing that we are fans
of and in the same arena of the greatest country
in the world. And that's what allows us to today
talk about sports, and that's what we're going to do,
and we'll begin by doing so talking about the Colts

(10:06):
in the Denver Broncos. Brandon Christal will join us about
twenty minutes from now. Just under that as a matter
of fact, to preview what takes place, And there has
been plenty that has been said obviously about the quarterbacking situation,
the quarterback position. How about the fact I saw this
Eddie Garrison. It's been a while since I've heard the

(10:26):
name David Carr. Okay, David Carr was the number one
overall pick in the NFL Draft, taken by the Houston
Texans out of Fresno State. As a matter of fact,
I believe David Carr was the first ever draft selection
present of the Houston Texans. He was the very first
Texan essentially. Yeah, they had an expansion draft and Steve McKinney,

(10:47):
for example, was drafted away from the Colts as an
offensive lineman and went to Houston. But David Carr was.
I think a lot of people thought David Carr was
going to be a a precise rhythm quarterback, and in
addition to that, a quarterback that had some mobility about him.

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And Houston was very intrigued by what he could do.
And they went out and they drafted him. And then
guess what happened when they drafted him. They had nothing
to support him, and he spent I have always said
I broke into the Astrodome during the IndyCar Race in
Houston several years ago, well documented, well talked about, well stated,

(11:28):
and I went through the Astrodome by myself and had
a chance to sit there and evaluate and assess and
look at every single inch of the Astrodome and it
was awesome. And right next to the Astrodome is NRG Stadium,
which is the current home of the Houston Texans. It's mammoth,
it's massive, and it's amazing how when you look at
it in comparison to the Astronome, especially when you fly
over it, it's the size of Lucas Oil Stadium. But

(11:51):
the Astrodome was the seventh Wonder of the World when
I was a kid, and the bad news Bears play
there in Evil Canevil and leu Al Sinder get his
eye scratched there and all of that. Astrom is this big,
famous historic venue and it's right next to NRG Stadium,
and now today it literally looks like the old Laurence
Central High School Gymnasium that was round on fifty sixth
Street in sitting next to NRG Stadium. NRG Stadium is

(12:14):
massive and energ stadium if you look at the lights
of it. David Carr is the one guy that can
actually tell you exactly how many lights are in NRG
Stadium because he basically sat on his back and was
able to count every single one of them because he
was absolutely thrashed and throttled as a quarterback and never
got any sort of feel about playing the quarterback position
because he was constantly under duress as the Houston Texans quarterback.

(12:41):
But David Carr likes Daniel Jones. David Carr, who is
a player that I would assume has experienced, has knowledge,
has the trained eye to be able to see good
and bad situations for a quarterback because he's been through it.
David Carr came out and said, I think Daniel Jones

(13:03):
has a little bit of a Peyton Manning tendency about him,
a Peyton Manning tendency about him. Now in this town,
you take anything that resembles Peyton Manning tendency, right, And
I think what he is saying is this, and you
got to look kind of above and beyond just the
nuance of what is being said. Yeah, it's easy to

(13:23):
critique that, but and say, like, that's a totally insane comment, right,
But when you look at what David Carr had to say,
he made some great checks at the line of scrimmage.
He was really on it. He said this on the
Dan Patrick Show. It was funny because he looked like Peyton,

(13:44):
you get in the same uniform, you're in that building.
He's got the same mannerisms. I'm going to follow and
study Indy the rest of the year. He said. Now,
David Carr is a guy that when he looks at
that is probably probably saying to himself, I know a quarterback,
and I can recognize when a quarterback is in a

(14:06):
good situation, because he was not. And I think when
he looks at it and says, you know, he says, hey,
you know, I get excited about it because he's up
there and he's making checks, he's moving guys around. He
has the ability, like Peyton Manning did, to recognize things.
But I think David Carr recognizes that Daniel Jones also
is put into a situation right away that is advantageous

(14:29):
for him as opposed to the one that is challenging
for a quarterback in Jones. Credit to the Colts, Credit
to Chris Ballard. Chris Ballard preached and talked about the
fact that he wanted an offensive line that was in

(14:49):
the trenches going to win the battles. He wanted depth
of playmakers at receiver and that took a while, that
absolutely while, but he wanted that depth. And I think
they have it now with Pittman and downs. And you know,

(15:10):
even Adie Mitchell play made a play, right, Even Adie Mitchell.
He was at the beginning of the Soul Asylum Runaway
Train video for a long time there because he was missing,
and then all of sudden boom, there's Adie Mitchell. Right,
Adie Mitchell made a play. And then you have Jonathan Taylor.
It goes without saying there we know what a weapon
that is. And then we've talked about it a lot

(15:31):
in the form of Tyler Warren and who and what
Tyler Warren is. There are just so many areas that
I think that they have put Daniel Jones in the
best situation. And as I talked about yesterday, I just
think Shane Steiken looked at all of the resources that
were given to him by Chris Ballard and had to
determine which quarterback he felt like not only could best

(15:53):
benefit from those resources, but which quarterback can best benefit
those resources themselves. And he went with Daniel Jones. And
does this mean And I'm gonna be very curious when
we talk to Brandon about this, whether or not Denver
presents the kind of, you know, defensive challenge that we

(16:15):
want to see Daniel Jones up against. Is Miami a
good defense? I mean, Miami looks like a dumpster fire.
Can we truly assess and evaluate where the Colts are
based on what Miami threw at them? They look like
they were like Keystone cops out there. So I think
a better test this week. And Eddie correct me if
I'm wrong in this. You Eddie Garrison, Okay, you do

(16:38):
the pre and post game shows for the Indiana Fever.
Correct that is accurate. Yeah, familiar when they are playing
West Coast games, for example, you're up here a little
bit later, right, that is correct? Yes, And then you
get up in the morning and you come in here
and you get your chai tea and whatever else, right,
or make yourself up or I.

Speaker 3 (16:54):
Get my Java house peeling, pop Pod peeling, poor POD's baby,
whatever peel and poor Peel Poppy out.

Speaker 1 (17:00):
I'm going right here. Those papakas in there, So you
gotta wake yourself up. If in fact, do we know yet,
we still don't know who the Fever are playing or win. Correct,
we will find that out tonight. There's a lot of
things that could happen. Are you would you say, when's
the last time you, Eddie Garrison? There's a reason I'm
asking this as it relates to this weekend and the Colts.

(17:22):
When is the last time you went out? And I
know that you and Olivia your your girlfriend. When's the
last time you guys went out and just said we're
gonna paint the town red. We're gonna go out, We're
staying out late night, We're hitting teky bobs. I'm gonna
take my shirt off and you know, do some dancing.
We're gonna go to eight second Saloon. I'm gonna ride
the mechanical bull. We're gonna we're just gonna tie one on,

(17:43):
go out to dinner, stay out late night, and have
a big night.

Speaker 3 (17:46):
It's a oh boy, probably April, if I had to guess,
it's been that long.

Speaker 1 (17:51):
It's been that long. I mean for me, I'm like,
I don'll probably like, here's the thing in five.

Speaker 3 (17:55):
I don't know how much of the listeners know. She
works nights, so she works Sunday nights, and then I work,
you know, week nights, sometimes weekend nights because the pacers
and fever, so it kind of makes things challenging sometimes
to paint the town.

Speaker 1 (18:09):
This is my assignment for you, young Jedi. You're ready, okay.
I think you should do it Saturday night. I think
Saturday night, you and this town you should go out
and just tie one on.

Speaker 3 (18:23):
Have that fund you mention that because I was discussed yesterday.
What's that we discussed during that yesterday? Yeah, Now here's
why for the entire city. Here's why you could sleep
in Sunday right. Oh yeah, I thought when the schedule
came out and correct me if I'm wrong.

Speaker 2 (18:43):
Here.

Speaker 1 (18:44):
I was under the impression when the schedule came out
that every single game was a one o'clock game. Right,
this is not a one o'clock game on Sunday, right, Nope,
four o'clock.

Speaker 3 (18:52):
They have a couple I think they have an eight
o'clock I against San Francisco, and then they have another
four o'clock start, maybe two others because they're playing the
AFC West this year in the NFC West.

Speaker 1 (19:04):
So Taiwan on Baby four o'clock start, coltson Broncos, and
Brandon's going to join us later in the program to
talk about it. You do anything fun last night? What
did I do last night?

Speaker 2 (19:15):
Now?

Speaker 3 (19:16):
I did not do anything fun, just kind of relaxed
at the house. What about you?

Speaker 1 (19:20):
The same I had? And for those that are curious,
and I realized that that list of people would be
probably just Eddie. But if you're watching on the YouTube
chat right now, and we thank you for doing so
wait wait, wait the what there you go the YouTube
chat because nobody beats.

Speaker 3 (19:36):
The whiz y gonna make that little smile on.

Speaker 1 (19:38):
You may or may not notice that I have a
a bandage and there is nothing in life that I
hate more than needles.

Speaker 3 (19:47):
I I noticed you had a bandage on your thumb
as well the other day, and I was concerned.

Speaker 1 (19:51):
Well, I'm on the thinners, and if I get a
paper cut, then all of a sudden it becomes old faithful.
But I so here's the thing, and I want to
make very clear for every with this. For Franciscan Health
forty nine dollars heart scan at Franciscan. It is not invasive.
It is very easy to do. I today had to
go in for a heart stress test. This was kind

(20:11):
of a routine check, but you go in and so
I knew that I was going to go in. They
were going to put wires on me. I was going
to get on a treadmill and then after once you
get your heart rate to a certain level, then they
immediately take you off the treadmill and you've got to
lay on a table and they do imaging of your
heart itself. The two things about this, there were only
two things about this that were troublesome. The first is

(20:35):
when they first laid me down on the wires and
the girl was getting everything set up, I hear this
wh who and I'm like, what is that noise? That
is disgusting. What's that disgusting noise? She's like, Oh, that's
the sound of your the blood going through your heart. Okay,
I didn't need to hear that. Then she says, oh,
and by the way, I forgot to tell you. In
order to do this, we have to actually do an

(20:57):
IV on you. Now, Eddie, I got news for needle
and me and needles not a good mix.

Speaker 2 (21:02):
Really.

Speaker 1 (21:03):
I am not a fan of needles in any way,
shape or form. In any way, shape or form, but
you gotta do what you gotta do. And so therefore
they gave me the IV and I still have the
bandage on my arm, and so that is the reason
for that. If you are asked or if you're wondering,
thank you for your concern. But that is the reason.
So did the stress test. And I want to encourage

(21:24):
everybody if you have not had a forty nine dollars
hard scan, go ahead and do so also because that
is very easy. It does not have the sound effects
nor the needle that go into it, so you are
all good in that regard. Perdue this weekend is going
to honor their two thousand Rose Bowl team. That is
because if your quick math is working like mine. That

(21:45):
tells you that it has been one quarter century, believe
that or not twenty five years since Perdue went to
the Rose Bowl. And they're going to honor that team
coming up this weekend in their game against USC. How
weird is it to think that, you know, back when
in the Rose Bowl, and I know that it was
Perdue playing on Washington and the Rose Bowl in two thousand,
But back in the day when you thought about USC,

(22:05):
you thought if there was a Big ten team, it
would be in the Rose Bowl. That would give them
the best chance to square off, because that's how it
worked back then in the Pac ten and Big Ten
championship matchups. It was Washington, not USC in two thousand.
But it will be Washington or USC, excuse me, this weekend,
and that is a Big ten game, and they will
be honoring the two thousand team, the guy that made

(22:26):
the play. And there are a lot of great plays,
a lot of them in that two thousand season for
Joe Tiller's Predue boiler Makers. But they're facing Ohio State.
They won, I believe at that point, two in a row,
and they're looking to punch their ticket to the Rose Bowl.
But they're down against Ohio State late in the game.

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We all know how great Drew Brees is. We all
know the the accuracy of Drew Brees, the clutch play
of Drew Brees, all of it, and it was on
display full right there in the play known simply according
to Brent Musburger, or because of Brent Musburger, as the
Holy Toledo play Drew Brees to Seth Morales that put
Purdue into the Rose Bowl. And Seth Morales is going

(23:11):
to join us today. He will be there coming up
on Saturday. He is one of the players that will
be honored. There are a number of them, and we'll
get the full list of those that are going to
be there on Saturday. He's going to join us two
o'clock on the show. That's thirty minutes after Rob Blackman
of the Predu Radio Network will join us on today's program,
and Matt Taylor, the voice of the Colts, will join
us at two thirty today, so a full slate. We

(23:33):
might even mix in some phone calls as well. We
didn't do that yesterday and perhaps we should have. As always,
the text line two three nine ten seventy three one
seven area code obviously three one seven two three nine
one zero seven zero if you want to text us
during the course of the show, or of course on
my personal cell phone as well. But when we come back,
he is a friend of the program. It is a

(23:53):
road trip Colts and Denver going to be here on Sunday,
but we're going to go to Denver to talk to
Brandon Costal and we're going to do it in five
I'll tell you what I'm doing a service to folks here.
I'm doing a service to folks because we are letting
you go for free here to Denver, Colorado as part
of our Thursday road trip. And I don't know if

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and I only know this because Shannon and I are
going to Denver for a weekend in October to go
see Paul McCartney. Airfare right now to Denver not inexpensive.
I don't know what happened, but airfare to Denver specifically
like through the roof. But Eddie, nonetheless, are you ready
to put your train in the upright position and fasten
your seatbelt. We're on our way to Denver. Brandon Gristal

(24:37):
joins us now on the program. Of course, a regular
here if you will on Querying Company Brandon, How are you?

Speaker 2 (24:44):
I'm doing good?

Speaker 4 (24:45):
Jake Miley thought, is that's fall break here starts that weekend,
but that would be flights out of Denver, and maybe
it's fall breaks around the country.

Speaker 2 (24:55):
Folks want to come or they want to see Paul McCartney.

Speaker 4 (24:57):
Maybe I'm going to be in London because the Broncos
played the Jets the night before that, that Sunday, the twelfth,
and I think that concert's on the eleven the course
field where they used.

Speaker 2 (25:07):
To have Major League Baseball, but these days the Rockies
play there.

Speaker 1 (25:10):
Yeah, what is by the way before we get to
the Broncos Man, what in the world happened in the Rockies?
They're terrible, right, they're the worst team in baseball.

Speaker 2 (25:16):
Right by a long shot.

Speaker 4 (25:20):
When you never get creative with how you handle your management.
And since Dan O'Dowd got here in ninety nine, they've
had twenty six straight years of a vertical line. So
Dan O'Dowd was seated by one of his under lingus
guy nam jet right It, who ran it for a while.

Speaker 2 (25:36):
He did the.

Speaker 4 (25:36):
Ronado deal that also traded Ronado, and then after him
a gay named Bill Schmidt, who was a long time
scouting director.

Speaker 2 (25:41):
That came with o doubt. He is now the GM.
A lot of people think he won't survive the year.

Speaker 4 (25:46):
So when you never get any thoughts from outside the
building in your argument as well, other teams, you bring
someone from the.

Speaker 2 (25:51):
Outside, other people that have worked at other teams, they
don't know how to win at altitude.

Speaker 4 (25:55):
I used to say, well, you've got forty wins, you
also do not know how to win it out.

Speaker 2 (25:59):
When I'm one hundred loss for any it can't be worse.
It can be as bad, but it can't be worse.
And so they're not gonna be the worst team in
the history of baseball. But they're not much better. It's
got a couple of young pieces like all major league teams.

Speaker 4 (26:09):
Seem to have, but no, they they and they played
hard since the break, but they're just.

Speaker 2 (26:15):
Not very good.

Speaker 4 (26:16):
And I don't know what we'll say that even with
them drafting that holiday the younger son Ethan this past June.
But it is a cool place to see a game,
the great place to a game, and depending on where
your seats are for McCartney, it's.

Speaker 2 (26:28):
A cool place to see a concert.

Speaker 4 (26:29):
I just hope you're not behind home Plate necessarily because
you'll be very far from the stage.

Speaker 1 (26:34):
I think it's at you know what, I guess you're right,
it's at Rocky. It's at Coursefield as opposed to Investco
or the Mile High or whatever they call it these days, right,
Branda Christall. By the way, our guest BK. Denver Sports
on the ex post Twitter, and he is the host
and reporter assistant regional manager for Guerrilla Sports talking about.

Speaker 2 (26:52):
The Denver to the regional manager, what's that? Just like
d white shirt from now you're.

Speaker 1 (26:59):
The assistant regional manager. Come on, well just I mean
you're you're George Goestanzi here, Brandon. Do you smell his gratifications?
That's right, you're the assistant to the assistant manager. Okay, Brandon,
let's get to this. You know, the Colts looked really
good in Week one, and there is optimism here in Indianapolis.
But they also played Miami, and we you know week

(27:19):
one overreaction. We have no idea who teams are through
week one. But now they go and they take on Denver.
I had said, I thought this was an important two
game stretch for the Colts because theoretically, these are two
teams that are going to be thought to be around
the same area within the conference where the Colts are
going to be in November or December if they're not

(27:39):
divisional winners and the wild card is in play. What
is the strength of this Denver Broncos team that can
challenge Indianapolis.

Speaker 2 (27:47):
Well, certainly it's their defense.

Speaker 4 (27:49):
And I think when I talk to you, what six
weeks hereo or so, right around he started training camp,
or maybe longer than because you had the race coming down,
so whatever, it was a couple of months ago. We
thought about the defense and they came to play Sunday.

Speaker 2 (28:04):
There.

Speaker 4 (28:05):
You know, they've already racked up six SATs coming off
a season where they had sixty three as a team
to lead the NFL. Six different players got to the quarterback.
They actually lost the turnover battle. Teams that won the
turnover battle. Sean Payton told us on a Wednesday or
eight and a one, the Broncos, because of bone, they
thrown a couple of.

Speaker 2 (28:21):
Ill advised passes. Not that sever advised, although every now
and then I guess the good pass can get tipped
up or broken up.

Speaker 4 (28:28):
But some ill advised pass, especially the second interception wasn't
very good. And if you go back and watch that
game and don't how many Colts stans saw it. He
had about two or three in the first half that
also could have been accepted.

Speaker 2 (28:38):
They just weren't. And so then and then he gave
up a fumble on a strip.

Speaker 4 (28:42):
Sack, something that he didn't do at all as a
rookie and didn't do in college. He does protect them
all pretty well, but they lost a turnover bat battle. Nonetheless,
every time a short field they held the Titans to
three or less and so they give the four field goals.

Speaker 2 (28:56):
And so you're good up front.

Speaker 4 (28:58):
Although we don't know what the expectations for Drake green Want,
who didn't play this past week. John Franklin, Meyer's defensive
lineman miss practice yesterday, But I was told by someone
I trust that it's no big deal, and so maybe.

Speaker 2 (29:11):
He will be in there big one of the big
met up front in that rotation. But then on the
back end, adding Talana Hfoman, who had his mixed point out.

Speaker 4 (29:19):
Yesterday, I think he had every tackle in the first quarter.
He is as good as advertised. Went healthy and there's
a reason he was all Pro a couple of years
ago with the Niners, so adding him to a secondary
that already has the best offensive player in football and
passer Tan Junior, who gave up no catches on thirty
four pass covered drafts.

Speaker 2 (29:35):
Family threw his way once.

Speaker 4 (29:37):
But it's a good day of work and they're good
kind of across the board with the first round pick
and Barren that plays, and then Nicol and can play
outside McMillan who had the strip sacked late of caam Ward,
and then Riley Moss, who a lot of folks in
the Big Dead remember, because we certainly noticed white cornerbacks
that I always had a couple of good ones. But
Riley played really well and had a great game in
the opener.

Speaker 2 (29:57):
So it's all about their defense keeping them in the game.
Can their offense make enough plays?

Speaker 1 (30:01):
Brandon the defense itself. Brandon Christal is our guest talking
about the Broncos. You know, with in Daniel Jones, what
Shane Stikeen did really well I thought in Week one
for Indianapolis was running offense and call plays that catered
towards Daniel Jones, getting him in rhythm a little bit,
and really featuring Tyler Warren their tight end, who's going

(30:21):
to be a really good player for Indianapolis. But defensively,
does Denver run a defense that is really aggressive? Is
Daniel Jones going to see a lot of different stunt
looks and are they going to see a lot of
blitzes or is it more just simply locked down like
cover type defense.

Speaker 4 (30:38):
No, I think that that's kind of ans. Joseph's calling
card is how many different exotic looks can he give
you and how many different stunts twists games.

Speaker 2 (30:50):
Up front came the d lineman and you know they're led.

Speaker 4 (30:52):
By Zach Allen, who just got a new contract extension
coming off a year where it wasn't Chris Jones, it
wasn't another interior lineman. He was the defensive lineman who
had the most TB pressures, racked up eight and a
half sacks. He's really strawtt skurs to drink there. But
I mentioned JFM DJ Jones up front, and their backups
are really aggressive too, so they come after you a

(31:14):
bunch of different ways. Like I mentioned, McMillan had that
script sack. I mean he's five pen on his best day,
one hundred and eighty five pounds and they'll send the
corner from a corner blitz when you.

Speaker 2 (31:25):
Don't expect it to be coming.

Speaker 4 (31:27):
And so that's kind of been one of many Joseph's
strong suits. I think he gives that a lot from
his time around Wade Phillips in Houston, and so I
think that it will confuse Daniel Jones if it works
the way they want it to. And one other thing too,
is it relates to Daniel Jones. He's really close with
Davis Webb. And I don't know how people know this.
I asked Sean Payton about it yesterday. He tried to

(31:47):
downplay it. But Davis Webb because seanles want to hold
us a story on Fridays at least that last season
that Webb was with Daniel in New York in twenty
twenty two, and they made the playof Davis would take
Daniel to the indoor for the Giants and go through
the game plan and walk through it with him like
he was a coach. Now, Davis is the son of

(32:09):
a coach. He steps off the practice field we're in
that same season or off the playing field. He started
that final regular season game because the Giants were locked
into the into their playoff spot, so they gave Daniel
Jones the day off, and Davis started that game and
then immediately became the Broncos quarterbacks coach, jumping a couple
levels that most coaches have to go through from quality
control and other areas before you become a quarterbacks coach.

(32:31):
But so Davis web has as good a knowledge as
Daniel Jones, probably as anyone, and saw Daniel when he
was at his best before we saw what we saw
last Sunday. That doesn't mean that he'll be able to
relay everything to Shane Steichen's offense is obviously different than
what Dave all ran, but you have somebody that at
least knows what Davis's tenant or what Daniel jones tendencies are,
and so it'd be interesting to see how he does

(32:51):
relay that the Vans Joseph, We're going to talk to
VJA today and we talked to the coordinators. I'm sure
he'll down plan it as well. But that doesn't mean
that Davis, as were sitting in there in a game
plan meeting with him on Tuesday to go through things
that he saw Daniel do well to say we need
to keep him out of this and try to make
him do that.

Speaker 1 (33:06):
So Davis Webb, of course, is the passing game coordinator,
offensive coordinator for the Broncos and quarterbacks coach. He's kind
of like the assistant of the regional manager basically. But
having said that, Brandon, you know he's working now with
bow Knicks. So in conclusion on the offensive side of
the ball for Denver, bow Knicks now has taken what
sort of step here over the course of his time

(33:27):
since he has, you know, been working with Sean Payton,
And what sort of threat offensively does Denver present to
the Colts.

Speaker 2 (33:36):
Well, I think it's yet to be determined.

Speaker 4 (33:40):
As you were asking me what kind of stuff he's
taken so far, i'd say sideways Charlay backwards. They won,
They scored two touchdowns. Those interceptions weren't good. You saw
a couple of really good throws, especially to Courtland Sutton,
not just on a touchdown, but on early kind of
bootleg action. A couple of good throws one of the
old collegeamate Troy Franklin and Evan Ingram him and so

(34:01):
and early on he did what he did last year.
In the first quarter, he targeted eight receivers and other
than the third running back that didn't catch either the
passes throw on the him.

Speaker 2 (34:09):
One he had to catch on a screen he missed.

Speaker 4 (34:11):
The other I would have gotten him killed had both
put it on the numbers by a safety coming across
those good at saled out of bounds the end zone.
But he was seven for you know, hit seven different guys.
And that's what he did great last year was read
the ball around. Even though he looked at Courtland Sutton
the most, he was able to spread it around. Now,
the one thing they did in the second half they
did do in the first half was run the football.
The numbers are a little scuge because rookie yard j

(34:32):
Harvey had a fifty yard run, but the da get
out of scored on a near a touchdown run. But
Jacob just stay submitted to running the football in the
first half. That'll help bow Nicks because that'll help keep
the defense honest if you will. And one thing Sean said,
Sean loves to make excuses to protect both. He said,
there were too many RPOs and that's on him. His

(34:54):
bow made the check to the pass. He's like, we
need more run to run options and he's like, so
that's on me as a play caller and baby of
truth in that. But at the same time, Bo has
to know that running the ball, even if it's not
for a lot of yardage because of the look you're getting,
will still keep the defense thinking, oh, they're going to
keep trying.

Speaker 2 (35:11):
To run it.

Speaker 4 (35:12):
So can he improved from what we saw as a rookie. Absolutely,
and if he doesn't, then the Broncos won't be talking
about a postseason. But I just can't say that he's
made huge progress other than having a big understanding, a
much better understanding of the offense. That's something he's talked
about throughout the offseason. He talked about it with I
think Chase Daniel and Dan ever Sini when they were here.

(35:33):
He said that last year he just kind of memorized
everything and now he really understands on it.

Speaker 1 (35:37):
By the way, Brandon Jalen texts in the show that says,
let Brandon know that Indy deserves a major League baseball
team more than Denver. I don't know that I totally
agree with that, but I will say Shannon's nephews, who
are pretty big Rockies fans, they grew up in Denver.
They have told me a numerous occasion their frustration is

(35:57):
because the stadium is so cool and because the games
are fun in terms of the non baseball aspect of it,
they're like, yeah, the Rockies don't have to spend money
because everybody goes to the games, regardless fact or fiction.

Speaker 2 (36:10):
Yeah, no, total fact.

Speaker 4 (36:12):
The numbers are down a little this year, at least
they were early in the year. Now again they've played better.
They've played better ball of late, and you know, you
get the Dodgers coming in a couple of.

Speaker 2 (36:21):
Times and that's going to be cool.

Speaker 4 (36:24):
And the Yankees state to town as well this year,
so those are going to always be big member. Same
with the Cubs. They'll sell out to two Saturdays ago.
But yeah, it's the best bar in town. We actually
have a T shirt on our Guerrilla Sports website. You
go to Gorilla sports dot net. It's a purple T
shirt with a silhouette of course field because we don't
label at Corsefield, you know, licensing issues, and it says

(36:45):
best Baring, best bar in Denver, or best bar in
Talent And it's my favorite shirt of all the shirts
we've made because it's true. On a Saturday night, a
Friday night, Thursday, whatever it is, you can go baseball
is only two and a half hours an no howur
or less thanks to the pitch. And then that's how
you start your evening. And it's a great place to
see a game. You can walk around the whole stadium.

(37:05):
So that's as you know, as misleading as anything else. Like, oh,
fans are still coming, so as long as it's packed,
you don't need to put.

Speaker 2 (37:13):
A winner on the field. Now, they're not. They're not
trying to lose. They're just not doing your deub of
figuring out how to sprive.

Speaker 1 (37:18):
They're just not trying to win, right, They're not trying
to lose. They're just not trying to win. That's the problem.

Speaker 4 (37:26):
Yeah, And I don't know how you how you fix
it until you really shake things up. Yeah, they fired
Bud Black. It wasn't a Bud Black's fault that he
had a triple A team at best, or a bunch
of double A players that aren't ready to be major
leaders or even four A players, you know. But they're
gonna have to, I think, hire any manager because I
don't think Aaron Schaffer will keep the job. But they

(37:47):
need a new fun of baseball offs to come in,
someone that's worked other places that has different ideas and
can just shake things up a bit from the top down,
you know, through every part of the pharm system, and
try to cultivate the players they have and maybe make
some trades, you know, with some of these young players,
get more young prospects to really grow something.

Speaker 1 (38:05):
Brandon, we appreciate the time as always. Man safe travels
and certainly safe travels over to London. That'll be cool
when you get to do that for the Broncos. But
appreciate the time as always.

Speaker 2 (38:14):
Thanks to see at the game of some day.

Speaker 1 (38:15):
I will be there. Yep, all right, we'll be there
and we will sit there. We can commiserate in the
press box and solve all the world's problems. How's that?

Speaker 2 (38:25):
That was great, Jake. I appreciate that. I appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (38:27):
Brandon Gristal, our friend out in Denver with Gorilla Sports.
By the way, speaking of assistant to the regional manager,
there is one guy that was once the assistant to
the commissioner that now is in charge, and perhaps he
needs an assistant because he said something yesterday that made
you go what. I'll let you know what that is
and why. It is an ongoing pr not nightmare, but

(38:50):
just makes you shrug your shoulders. We'll elaborate next. Eddie
mentioned it yesterday. We are some and I'm just going
off the top of my head. Six weeks away from
the NBA somewhere in.

Speaker 3 (39:03):
There preseason starts, I think a month and a month, yeah,
and I know they're again.

Speaker 1 (39:10):
It's so interesting because with the Pacers, and maybe I'm
the only one that does this. Maybe I'm the only
one that when I think about the season, has to
like then stop and remind myself there's no Tyre's Halliburton
and there's no Miles Turner, like you know, there's just
I still am. I'm almost on this high, if you will,

(39:31):
from the fact that you're like, oh, the finals and like,
let let's get right back to it, and this is
awesome and it's been such a obviously it goes without
saying such a short off season, you know, based on
what we're used to that you get this turnaround and
then you stop and you have to temper your expectations

(39:53):
because you're like, oh, okay, that's right, I forgot Halliburton,
even though he looks good in his rehab, is not
going to be on the floor. And turn is now
in Milwaukee, and it just changes things a little bit.
The preseason a home opener a month from today, preseason, right, yeah,
pre season home opener, yes, so Adam Silver though, when
it comes to and this is one of the things

(40:15):
that is.

Speaker 3 (40:16):
In exactly six weeks from UH opening opening the Fever
Fever the Pacers, one of the things that is becoming
more challenging is and I think this is true for everyone,
and I totally understand that if you have always been

(40:40):
used to or accustomed to, or have known no different
than you know, streaming options and bundling packages. I mean,
Eddie we we we one day on the air, were
trying to figure out I don't remember which one it was.
I was disgusting, but I was mentioning that my cable
now has gone from you know cable to like a
streaming thing. I mean they literally just came in and said,
here's your box, here you go, and now all of

(41:01):
a sudden, I've got a thousand channels, which is cool,
but it's also a little overwhelming because I'm like, I
don't know where stuff.

Speaker 1 (41:07):
Is half the time. It's awesome, awesome. We were discussing
whether or not you know ESPN Plus also gets you
Disney and you know, et cetera, and it became almost
a who's on first conversation definitely. And I think that
when you talk about the NBA, and I get it,
the NBA, the NFL, major League Baseball, all of them,

(41:28):
major League soccer, every sport is constantly trying to appeal
to a younger audience for the obvious reasons for long
term sustainability of your product. I get it. And I
think even people who have become accustomed to or known
no different than streaming services and bundling and buying different apps,

(41:55):
it becomes confusing at times. And let me give you
an example. I go, now, one of the things that
I do each week is I lay out for my dad,
for example, where every game is of the teams that
he that he likes. Each Sunday, I sit down and
I go, okay, Dad, here's your weekly television schedule. The

(42:17):
Cubs are on these days on Wednesday, these games are
on on Thursday, these games are on Now. The Cubs
are fairly easy because most of their games are simply marquee.
But he is also, for example, a huge fan of
the Fever. That becomes a little more challenging because there
are a number of different places where they can be found.
And so I'll say, well, on this you know, this night,
it's actually on this channel, that it's on this channel,

(42:40):
then it's on this channel. Adam Silver recently was discussing
the television viewership of the NBA and when asked about
the challenge of basically not having it be readily available
for all teams, but for some teams being on an
a la carte app or a bundled app and whatever else.

(43:02):
Here's what Adam Silver had to say.

Speaker 5 (43:03):
There's a huge amount of our content that people can
essentially consume for free. I mean this is very much
a highlights based sport. Instagram, TikTok, you know, Twitter, you
name it, any service you know, the New York Times
for that matter, to the extent that your content is
not behind a paid firewall. There's an enormous amount of
content out there YouTube, by another example, that people that

(43:26):
is advertising based, that consumers can consume.

Speaker 1 (43:30):
Here's the problem with that comment. If you are the
Indiana Pacers, you are the Minnesota Timberwolves, you're the Denver Nuggets,
whatever it might be. Part of your partnership with your
broadcast partners, or that now people are having to pay
to watch the games, right And you know, I sound

(43:55):
like her Edwards there. You play to win the game,
you pay to watch the game, and that's fine, and
I get it. And the Pacers last year had to
kind of run where you know, this city fell in
love with them and people are like, man, I can't
wait to watch Pacer games. And it brought people together.
But what you have right there is the commissioner of

(44:16):
the NBA saying something that everything is about business partnerships,
everything is about sponsorships. And right there, I think he
might have misspoke and he might have some splaining to do,
and I will explain exactly that when we come back,
and again coming up on the program still Rob Blackman,
about thirty five minutes from now, Seth Morales talking Rose

(44:39):
Bowl two thousand and the reunion for that team coming
up this Saturday at Ross aid. That's going to be
at two o'clock, Matt Taylor at two thirty as well
here on the fan back in the Colts Broncos here
in just a second couple of minutes actually, because there
are a couple of other stories that really had caught
my ear and eye, and I want to get back
into this Adam Silver explanation. So he was doing a

(45:01):
press conference after the annual NBA meeting of the Board
of Governors. I don't know if Mike Brown was there
or not, but the the discussion. There are a lot
of things going on right now in the NBA. One
of them is the questionable nature and I'm using air
quotes there of Kawhi Leonard and the Clippers and whether

(45:24):
or not there wasn't you know, kind of under the
table things that took place in terms of salary cap
and getting underneath the salary cap and getting too creative
with independent people or businesses paying Kawhi Leonard. Those are
things the NBA is going to take a long, hard
look at. But one of the questions that he was

(45:45):
asked was that question about the cost and the increased
cost of watching the NBA. And the best way to
say it or explain it, I guess would be this.
You know, I work, for example, in the world world
of IndyCar and in IndyCar, NASCAR, whatever it may be.

(46:09):
Partnerships and sponsorships are so incredibly important. You are grateful
for any company that comes along to sponsor a race
team or the broadcast team or whatever it may be,
and you are constantly aware of making sure that you
are doing what is best for your partners and your

(46:30):
sponsors and appeasing. And when I say appeasing, I don't
mean like disingenuously, I mean naturally making sure that you
are tying in the product name or the sponsorship name,
or whatever it may be. And the same is true
for broadcast partners. Obviously, in the case of IndyCar now,

(46:53):
Fox Television, which is the television broadcast partner, has an
ownership stake within the league itself. But for the NBA
or the NFL, which are eight hundred pound gorillas in
comparison to a more niche sport like auto racing or
like you know, for that matter, still soccer, at least
in the American side of things. You know, the NBA,

(47:17):
in the NFL and the NFL specifically, but the NBA
has the big time networks that are paying big time dollars,
billions of dollars in order to broadcast their games. Eddie
just played the NBA on NBC theme because of the
fact that NBC is now back in the game. And
I think actually, as a Pacer fan, you know, so

(47:40):
much of the great Pacer teams and memories that people
in this town have happened during the mid nineties when
NBC was the broadcast, the primary broadcast partner for games.
So when you hear that music, you automatically associate it.
But we live in a different world now, and that

(48:00):
different world means that all sports properties are broadcast through
different avenues. You have the streaming aspect of Amazon Prime
that shows NBA games, you have the streaming aspect of
NBC's Peacock which airs games. You have Disney Plus, which

(48:23):
is partnered with ESPN. So if you are a fan
of a particular team in this case, in this market,
the Indiana Pacers, yes they are on and I always
forget now I believe it's Fandual Network, right, fan Dual
Sports Network. So if you have your regular cable carries

(48:45):
Fandual Sports Network, you're okay. But there are certain and
I don't know which ones because it does not apply
to my particular cable provider. My cable provider I get
with the package the Fan Dual Sports Network, but there
are some that whatever cable provider they have, or if
they've cut the cord and they now use streaming services

(49:06):
they are, you know, having to pay additional for fan duel.
Then let's say that it's one of the games that
Christen Arii and Quinn Buckner are not working, which happens
from time to time because they are going to be
on one of the nationally televised games. If they go
onto a nationally televised game and it's on Amazon Prime,

(49:26):
now you've got to subscribe to Amazon Prime in order
to get that game. Or Peacock. It's going to be
a Peacock game, you got to subscribe to Peacock to
get that game.

Speaker 3 (49:36):
I don't know if the NBA JC is like the NFL,
where all their games have to be on in a
local market. So I don't know if they're going to
be on like WTCHI for example, if they're on Amazon
Prime or something like that.

Speaker 1 (49:49):
So provided for free, right, Yeah, But the point being,
it is the role and responsibility of any business partnership
to make sure that you are consistently advocating for your
sponsors and partners. And when you have the Commissioner of
the NBA being asked about whether or not it is

(50:14):
becoming too cost preventative for people to follow their favorite team,
because of having to buy all of the different apps
and subscriptions. It is in the best interest of Adam
Silver to say, well, I understand that concern. We're gonna
do this like we did yesterday with my coach speak.
I'm going to be Adam Silver. Now I do a
fabulous David Stern.

Speaker 3 (50:35):
Do we need the elixir?

Speaker 2 (50:37):
Jake?

Speaker 1 (50:37):
No, no, no, because I'm gonna be Adam Silver correctly
on what he should say. Okay, Now, Eddie, I would
like for you to ask me, because I do a
fabulous David Stern, the predecessor to Adam Silver. Give me
any player of the NBA that would have been drafted
in David Stern's era. Okay, give me any player that
David Stern would have announced as a draft pick. Jordan Okay,

(51:03):
and I always forget Jordan was the third Was he
the third or the fourth pick? You had Elijahwan, you
had Bowie, and then you had Jordan. Right, So he
was the third pick. With the third pick in the
nineteen eighty four NBA draft, the Chicago Bulls select Michael
Jordan from the University of North Carolina. That's my David Stern.

(51:24):
Now here's what Adam Silver should have.

Speaker 3 (51:27):
Said, wait, wait, wait, check out Isaiah Thomas.

Speaker 1 (51:31):
With the second pick in the nineteen eighty one NBA draft,
the Detroit Pistons select Isaiah Thomas from the University of Indiana.
And before anybody sends me the tax and critiques me,
that's how he always said it. I have no idea
why he said Indiana University. It drove me crazy. What
Adam Silver should have said is this. Eddie asked me

(51:54):
the question, please, if I'm Adam Silver, about the increased
cost of viewership for an NBA fan.

Speaker 3 (51:59):
Are you concerned, earned Adam Silver, about the viewership numbers
going down this year because of the cost of being
able to watch you know, your local team.

Speaker 1 (52:08):
I understand the question, and I appreciate the question, and
it's certainly a conversation we've had with our partners, and
we're very excited with our partnerships at Amazon as well
as NBC and the streaming service at Peacock, and of
course we know about ESPN and Disney Plus and the
services they provide. All of them provide fabulous content and
they provide great content, and we are encouraged and we
are optimistic that our fans will understand the value in

(52:29):
those memberships and being able to not only watch our
games on those but then on the nights when their
favorite team is not playing, being able to take advantage
of the other programming involved. So I certainly understand from
a fans standpoint that it's a new era and it's
a different era. But I think that they will find
that when you really weigh it all out, that it
all becomes worth the investment that you make in those

(52:49):
properties because you're getting content above and beyond the NBA,
and we're very excited about what we provide. Thank you,
next question, Nice job. But when he comes out in says.

Speaker 3 (53:01):
Look, who's your favorite dog and Pony show?

Speaker 1 (53:05):
When when when Adam Silver comes out though and says, listen,
we are a highlight league. We're a highlight league, and yeah,
we could do this elixir for him if you want,
if you'd like the elixir of course being and this
is a subscription fee that we pay, right the elixir takes.
What the elixir does is it takes comments from a

(53:26):
coach or in this case, a commissioner, and it runs
it through a format and this we paid good money
for this, and then it spits out what they were
really saying. Okay. And this is again we don't do
this often, but we've had good success with it and
the elixir and and they just called me the other
day actually to ask if I would you know if

(53:47):
we're pleased with it? And I said I am.

Speaker 3 (53:48):
They did or I forget oh, I forget our cfo's name.
I forget her name, Jake.

Speaker 1 (53:55):
That's right, Carol, one of our twenty six female listeners,
twenty seven, get it right, twenty seven? Okay, so would
you like to run through the elixir. I'm having problems
with the elixir right now getting fired up though. You've
waited too long to use it, so it's got to reboot.
You probably need a software upgrade. The way that we

(54:15):
do this though, we play the clip and then we
run the translation. Right, that is correct?

Speaker 3 (54:22):
Well, we got to run in through the elixir before
we can play the translation. The elixir is acting up
right now, Eddie. Oh, I apologize for what if you
waste all this money, of the company money on this
ELIXA and it doesn't work?

Speaker 1 (54:37):
Well, yes, I've got to check, and I think maybe
I didn't pay the the app subscription. Okay, but either way,
when Adam Silver says, this is a highlight league and
you can watch the highlights on TikTok, or you can
watch the highlights for free in any number of different places.
That is true, and there is an element of truth

(54:58):
to that. But where where Adam Silver aired? Is this
the stereotype of the NBA to the people that are detractors.
When you say we are a highlight league and you
can watch highlights on TikTok, you are speaking to an
audience that is already aware of that fact. When you

(55:18):
are saying to people that would normally not think of
it is a highlight league on TikTok, what you're saying
to them is we understand that you, mister or missus
basketball fan talk about the fact that you no longer

(55:39):
watch the NBA because it's no longer basketball. You want
to see screens, you want to see defense, you want
to see good passing, you want to see solid shooting.
And while I, personally Jake Querry believe those things exist
in the NBA, it is a stereotype right now and
a stigma against the NBA that as a league they

(56:01):
have to overcome. And that is the narrative that it
is a league that is nothing but dunks and individualized highlights,
and it does not feature the basketball that people have
become accustomed to seeing as a team. And when you
come out and say, look, you don't have to watch
our whole game, I mean you don't need to log

(56:25):
on to Prime to see the game. Just go on
TikTok and you can see it in forty five seconds.
Because you're going to see an unbelievable Haliburton three, You're
going to see a quick Nie Smith three, and you're
going to see one unbelievable dunk from Obi tap and
on TikTok and.

Speaker 3 (56:41):
You'll see it pretty much instantaneously.

Speaker 2 (56:44):
Right.

Speaker 1 (56:45):
But the point being what you are doing in saying
that is you are subliminally and subconsciously endorsing the narrative
that your product is no longer about team play but
rather about a handful of exciting plays by individuals per contest,
which I don't think is true. I really like the NBA.

(57:09):
I like it because I watch and see incredible athleticism,
unbelievable hand eye coordination, unbelievable quickness of movement. I see
all of those things. But you have to watch the
totality of game a lot of times to see and
understand that and watch play. And I'm not trying to
sound like some soccer fan. You know, you have to

(57:30):
watch the play development and then when you do you
can watch well that's u lists Mentley as well. But
but the point being he speaks to the narrative that
is the critique of his sport. Now, another thing I
just mentioned that I find interesting.

Speaker 3 (57:46):
You should have gone with your English accent there.

Speaker 1 (57:48):
Oh yeah, yeah, that's right, tell you, yes.

Speaker 2 (57:52):
You know?

Speaker 3 (57:52):
Uh, Jake, Next Friday, I better call off. Oh does
it talk like a pirate day?

Speaker 2 (57:59):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (57:59):
Listen, we do huge numbers on the day and kids
love it. I mean kids love when I and again, Eddie,
I'll ask the question which I'll ask you next Friday. You,
of course know the pirate's favorite letter of the alphabet? Right,
I'm not going to answer because if I say one,
it's gonna be the other. If I say one, it's
gonna be thegether. No, no, no, naturally speaking, what is
a pirate's favorite letter of the alphabet? Z?

Speaker 2 (58:21):
No?

Speaker 3 (58:22):
Exactly?

Speaker 1 (58:23):
Okay, So but I mentioned and this is a confluence
that I find fascinating. When I mentioned the pacers and
where you can watch pacer games. What's the name of
that network? Angel Sports Network? Okay, And when you talk

(58:47):
about I'm trying to think of like in the NFL oftentimes,
and I think some of the networks do this now,
the like pregame, they will do a rundown of who
is in or out or what good matchups are, and
oftentimes those are sponsored by another kind of a rival
of FanDuel, which one am.

Speaker 3 (59:06):
I talking about DraftKings. Well, if you watch Sunday Night Football,
Jake Matthew Berry goes on there and gives you his
best parlay, and other guys give you their best bets
for that game. If you watch Monday night Football, you've
got each analyst giving a bet through ESPN Bet.

Speaker 1 (59:22):
And listen. I understand, and I appreciate and I enjoy
the responsible nature of all of those apps, and I
think the vast majority of people do. It's not unlike
alcohol or other things that in moderation can be enjoyed responsibly.

(59:44):
But then unfortunately there are those that fall into an
addiction of it. And it's no different. I mean, there
are a million different vices that you can fall into
that the slippery slope in terms of the gambling apps,
and again I believe. I mean I don't have a

(01:00:08):
problem with them. I don't mean like I don't have
an addiction to it. I mean like I don't fundamentally
have a problem with it. I enjoy placing a wager
here and there on FanDuel or DraftKings or Bette Rivers,
you know. I mean, there are a multitude of these,
some have come and gone. But what my fear was
when this happened. And I'll tell you this story. When

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I was in college, I lived in an apartment complex
that had a lot of athletes that lived in the
apartment complex. And I have mentioned on numerous occasions some
of the guys that I was friends with in college
that played Division one athletics at Indiana University. The story

(01:00:58):
I'm about to tell is not any of those guys.
It's not. But I was in the parking lot of
my apartment building one day when a guy pulled up
true story and asked, like, Hey, doesn't so and so
live near here? And I'm like, yeah, and no further

(01:01:18):
or no sooner than that than the this player who
I've never mentioned on this radio station. So it is
not somebody that I mean a good guy from what
I knew. Good guy, but not somebody that I've talked
about before. So it's not the players that people have
heard me mentioned on the radio whatever else. But this
individual pulls up because this particular athlete was playing really well,

(01:01:43):
and he pulls up with an envelope of money, and
he says, Hey, I want to let you know. I
run I run a sports book, and you made me
a lot of money last week, so I want to
I want to thank you for it. This is a
true story. You can put me on a light detector test.

Speaker 3 (01:02:04):
Is is this the Quorean company? Booky, Mike, this is
I'm telling you. I actually know this guy's name. I
didn't know him well, but I but we learned it
very quickly. Okay, he was not somebody that went to Indiana,
but he lived in Indiana. So he seeks out this athlete.
And I'm standing there witnessing this. You can put me
on a light detector test.

Speaker 1 (01:02:25):
And the athlete, which I always was impressed by the athletes,
it was like in shock, and then says, I can't
accept that. I can't take that money, and the bookie
is like no, no, no, like it's free. I mean
like you know, you don't owe me anything. I just
you made me a lot of money and I wanted
to thank you for it, and the athletes like, but

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then I get into a tangled web that has weaved
if I take that money. And I sat there with
my own two eyes and observed this, and this athlete
turned him down and was almost uncomfortable with it, and
that was kind of the end of Now, this was
thirty years.

Speaker 3 (01:03:05):
Ago, and the light detector determined you're telling the truth.

Speaker 1 (01:03:08):
That's right, This was thirty years ago. My point being
considering that took place thirty years ago, and it was
somebody who wasn't even from Bloomington but from Indiana that
drove to Bloomington to find set athlete to you know,
grease the wheel a little bit. I can only imagine

(01:03:30):
the number of times that took place or was accepted
that I didn't even witness or that I was unaware of. So,
now that you have the accessibility on college campuses of
the sports gambling app, you knew it was going to
be a matter of time before you started seeing players

(01:03:50):
that are in I mean, we've seen it at the
professional level, let alone in the the still navigating your
way into early adulthood, had decision making era of college athletes.
You know, we now have an increased number of stories
and the latest being Fresno State. I believe I saw

(01:04:12):
Arizona State today as well in San Jose, San Jose State.
So there is now investigation and a banning of athletes
because they're figuring out these athletes are making wager on
gambling apps. And I understand if you are the student athlete,

(01:04:33):
why you would have difficulty understanding and grasping and coming
to grips with and even accepting the negative nature of
the action of that when everywhere you turn the apps
are in bed with different franchises and.

Speaker 3 (01:04:47):
It's just so easy.

Speaker 1 (01:04:49):
Correct the accessibility, right, I'm not condoning you don't have
to walk into a casino for the app, but I
understand I'm not excuse me, I'm not condemning. Excuse me,
I'm not condemning people for using the app, and I'm
not condoning the players using the app. I'm simply or

(01:05:09):
whichever it may be, I'm just simply saying there is
a gray area that has been created that I understand
why it would make it difficult for a young person
in particular to discern the potential hazard in what it
is they're doing now. I do know that they go
through obviously a number of and I'm sure they have

(01:05:32):
different groups that speak to them and organizations that come
in and the NCAA and all of those things. But
it is my concern that this is just the beginning.
If you've already seen it at the professional level, and
who would have more to lose than somebody with an
NFL salary or an NBA salary or a Major League
Baseball salary. In this case, yes, we are in the

(01:05:54):
nil era, but I guarantee you there are a lot
of players at smaller schools that are thinking to themselves,
nobody's going to notice if I'm doing this. Yeah, I
get it, Like they're going to be looking at this
school that's ranked in the top five, this school that's
ranked in a big bowl game, this school, but my school.
Thing notice And I my worry is that what we

(01:06:15):
are hearing right now is the first of what will
be an ongoing series of stories about this for some time.
I don't know what the answer is, but it is
something of concern to me. Purdueing UFC coming up this weekend,
Rob Blackman, the Predue Radio Network, joins us next halfway

(01:06:35):
through the show on a Thursday, how are you? Thank
you for tuning in? My name is Jake Quarry Eddie Garrison.
The other voice you hear on this program. It is
Quiring Company on ninety three to five and one zero
seven to five the fan. I should wish to our
next guest a happy belated birthday. His birthday would have
been one week ago yesterday. That would be last Wednesday.
I know this because he is my September third brethren.

(01:06:57):
He is also the pre and post game halftime host
for Purdue football and the voice of produced basketball program
as well. Rob Blackman joining us on the show, Hi, Rob,
how are you yes?

Speaker 2 (01:07:08):
Sir?

Speaker 6 (01:07:08):
Ja cope you had a good September the third. That
was my fifty fifth birthday. So the big double nickel
for me?

Speaker 7 (01:07:15):
Brother?

Speaker 1 (01:07:16):
Somebody told me the double nickels a big one. Did
you do anything different than you did on the fifty fourth?

Speaker 6 (01:07:21):
I did not. I actually didn't know fifty five was
supposed to be a big one, So I guess I
blew it there. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:07:26):
Well, I'm kind of with you. I mean, I was
fifty three so it's just, you know, you kind of
you're in a holding pattern between like fifty and sixty.
I guess when people care, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:07:36):
That's how I look at it, exactly. That's exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:07:38):
Hey, let's get to this speaking of things that you know,
you look at and you have to double take before
it becomes reality, like for example, being fifty five or
fifty three. But you know, I was in the Rose Bowl,
the venue, the Rose bul this past weekend, and Rob,
I'll be honest, I mean, it's a great venue, it's
a beautiful facility, it's historic, all of those things, and

(01:07:59):
it just was It's super weird for me still to
look up and see a big ten logo, you know,
and I'm like, oh gosh, that's right, it's so weird.
And USC coming into rass aid being a Big ten matchup,
that alone is surreal. But the other thing too, is
that USC is coming in not as a top five team,
which I think a lot of people would have expected.

(01:08:19):
What challenge do you think Purdue is looking towards at USC?
Have you gotten an idea or a feel for what
Purdue thinks or Barry Odin thinks is the way to
hang with the Trojans.

Speaker 6 (01:08:32):
I don't know so much that he's tipped his hand
in that regard. I do know from especially listening to
him speak here a couple of times this week leading
up to the game. I do know the fact that
there's a great amount of familiarity with their starting quarterback
because it's someone who played for coach Odam at UNLD
two years ago.

Speaker 7 (01:08:54):
That is very.

Speaker 6 (01:08:54):
Concerning because obviously there's not going to be a better
scattering report on the starting QB than a guy that's
old played for you, and they're really I mean, look,
his numbers are outstanding. I think he's leading the Big
ten and yards passing like already seven hundred yards through
two games, and I think he leads the Big ten
and touchdowns already six I think it is five or six.
So the numbers speak for themselves. But then again, you

(01:09:16):
have a head coach is very, very familiar with the
guy because, as I said, he coached UNLB and helped
them win nine games. So that's where the number one
concern is, now, what is it going to take to
beat USC that. I'm not so certain. You know, Purdue
is look two and O's better than O and two.
I understand that, but it's not like the competition has
been overly difficult to go through these first two weeks.

(01:09:37):
So it's going to be a major step up in competition, There's.

Speaker 2 (01:09:41):
No doubt about that.

Speaker 6 (01:09:41):
And yeah, we shall see. I don't I'm not sure
what to expect it, but on this one, it's the
US season. A similar boat has Purdue. Their first two
opponents weren't necessarily world beaters, so I'm not so certain, Jake.
Maybe both of these teams aren't kind of still maybe
uncertain what exactly they'll have, but I think they'll have
a pretty better understand, pretty much much better understanding of

(01:10:03):
that about you know, seven thirty or so Saturday night.

Speaker 1 (01:10:07):
You know the thing, Rob, that's interesting, Rob Blackman, our guest.
When you look at Purdue, you know, even Perdue themselves
probably didn't know largely who and what they were because
you know, they so much turnover in a new coach
and et cetera. Through two games, and I realized two
games not a season make. And you're to your point,
the competition you know, not necessarily yet at Big ten level.

(01:10:29):
But what has jumped out at you about this Purdue
team that you have said to yourself, Okay, that's something
that I can kind of see is going to be
the pattern of who they're going to be if they
want to win games this year.

Speaker 6 (01:10:42):
Yeah, well two things and again two games does the
pattern does not make But I love the fact that
Purdue has only committed five penalties through the first two games,
five accepted penalties, and none of those penalties have been
pre snap penalties. That to me is a direct reflection
of coaching and the discipline that's been filled within the progress.

Speaker 1 (01:11:02):
And that was kind of the calling card for Utimate UNLV,
was it not. I mean, just discipline, not shoot yourself
in the foot football right right.

Speaker 6 (01:11:11):
Right, don't beat yourself. And the same on the turnovers.
Produce only had one turnover that was an interception last weekend.
And Produce only had one fumble through the first two games,
and luckily that ball rolled out of bounds and it
wasn't recovered by the other team. So Purdue again, to me,
in all the years I've been doing this, I'd like
to think that a direct reflection of the coaching when

(01:11:32):
it comes to football typically comes in the manner of penalties,
especially pre snap penalties and turnovers. Because those are both
just concentration things. Right, You're either concentrating or you're not.
And I'll tell you Produe has been you know, damn
near perfect and on those two categories through the first
two games. Again, once the level of competition steps up,
we shall see if Purdue can continue to have success

(01:11:54):
in winning games. But I would think if you can
continue that trend of minimal penalties, rarely turning the ball over,
at least you're going to give yourself a chance, which,
of course last year was was not something for Due
was ever in a situation to do quite frankly. So
those are the two things that really jumped out to me.

Speaker 1 (01:12:11):
You know, it's rob it's so interesting because I've made
the joke. Probably at this point I need to expire
the joke, but that Purdue still practices with name tags
on because they're you know, they are just so many
new faces. And that probably is true even for the
coaching staff. For you, as you know, just a broadcaster
in general, when you look at this team, give our

(01:12:31):
listeners the name of and I don't mean quarterback, the
name of a player or two that has jumped out
at you where you've said, you know what, I think
Boiler fans are going to enjoy watching this guy play.

Speaker 6 (01:12:44):
Yeah, so two of them, they both play the same position.
Michael Jackson the third, which of course is a great
name to use to have, I should say football and
Nitro Tuggle again, another pretty cool name. When your first
name is Nitro, that's kind of cool. But those two
guys in training camp bleeding after week one, seemed like

(01:13:05):
those two guys were making all the plays as wide receivers.
And I know almad Branch has has been the go
to guy early in the season, which has been great
to see. But those are the two guys that I
did not see coming. Now maybe I should have. I
mean Michael Jackson, you know, speaking of USC familiarity, he
played three years at USC, was at let's say, I

(01:13:25):
think he was at Auburn last year maybe Georgia. I
think it was anyway, but yeah, those are I think
it was Georgia. Yeah, yeah, Georgia. You go in the
training camp and you're like, okay, I mean we had
an eighty two new guys. Man, I mean, I'm and
I like an idiot. I made the mistake of trying
to learn the roster during the spring, which is a
really bad idea. I'll never do it again, because twenty

(01:13:46):
five of those guys left after the spring game, So
why did I even bother but a couple of new
guys in Jackson and Tuggle, you know, they come rolling
through and you're like, hey, you know, these guys have
been pretty impressive in practice. I wonder if they can
carry it over to the games. Well they have to
this point. So those have been the two guys that
have really gotten my attention. Hopefully there are more to
come down the road, but those those two right there,

(01:14:06):
certainly they grab my attention early and often in training camp,
and again luckily they've continued to play at a high level,
at least do the first two games.

Speaker 1 (01:14:15):
And then Rob in terms of Bury otom you know,
I think we know. I mean, you might have been
the one that I was talking to about this that,
you know, just kind of his mantra, and you correct
me if I'm wrong, if I got the verbiage wrong here.
But it's basically like what like smart discipline, you know, hard, nos.

Speaker 6 (01:14:35):
Smart, hard, smart, tough, Yeah, okay, and.

Speaker 1 (01:14:39):
That's what he wants to see from his players. And
I think so far, you would say, so far, so good. Right,
But in terms of he himself and just his overall
vibe and personality, what sort of coach does he seem
to be to you?

Speaker 6 (01:14:56):
Well, he's certainly one that is not afraid to what
would be the right phrase here, uh, to make himself
a man of the people. He has been And look,
I get it, when you're the first year head coach,
a lot of obligations outside of coaching the team come
with it. But that I mean that guy. He was

(01:15:18):
at the freshman orientation they call it Boiler gold Rush
when the freshmen are on campus. He had a speaking
engagement there. He's gone and spoken to the marching band, uh,
talking to them about how important they are to the
success of Purdue.

Speaker 2 (01:15:31):
Uh.

Speaker 6 (01:15:32):
He's gone out and met the students, the fans that
are in line waiting for tickets.

Speaker 7 (01:15:38):
Uh.

Speaker 6 (01:15:38):
He's gone out and taking pictures with them, shaking their hands,
thank them for coming. He's doing all those those pr
things that go a long way in and then during yourself,
not only to the to the fan base, but certainly
the student fan base, which is all which is such
a very important part of it. And I'll share share
with you here, Jake, that I haven't shared with many.

(01:15:59):
You know, myself and Joey Mullen Arrow are doing a
podcast now for Purdue Athletics, and our very first guest
on our first podcast a couple of weeks ago was
coach Otum. Obviously, why not have the head football coach
on as your first guess? When that thing was over,
it hadn't been fifteen minutes. He had already sent me
a text thanking me for having him on the podcast

(01:16:21):
and look forward to doing, you know, things like this
down the road now. Number one, how he got my
phone number, I'm not sure. And number two the fact
that he went out of his way to send me
a text. I've never had that happen with any of
our football coaches, and I've been this my twenty second
year on the broadcast team. So just those little things. Again,
from a pr standpoint, he is certainly he is winning

(01:16:44):
that battle, easily winning that battle, and it doesn't hurt,
obviously when you're two and zero. But he does seem
to be a guy that's not afraid to put himself
out there and again be the face of the franchise.
And maybe that's the right phrase. He's not actual about
doing that, and for now, it's certainly working.

Speaker 1 (01:17:04):
Okay. Lastly, Rob, basketball season will be here before we
know it. You will be on the mic for Perdue
Basketball and Matt Painters group. Looks like it's been a
really good off season for Purdue and that their ability
and this is what I love about it. And I
wanted you to just kind of expand on this, and
I'm not going to say anything that people don't already know,
but Rob, you see it up close and personal. You

(01:17:27):
see the practices, you see kind of the you know,
how the sausage is made with Perdue Basketball. I love
the fact that Matt Painter has a way he wants
to do things and he recruits players based on those
that want to do it that way, not contouring and
not changing things based on the number of stars that

(01:17:49):
a kid has, but rather the number of stars that
he can make out of them. And that's what I love.
And it looks like he is continuing that trend and
the way he is sustaining the program and getting guys
to continue to buy in. Can you expand on what
you see that makes that statement valid?

Speaker 6 (01:18:09):
Well, yes, and let me just all steal Matt Painter's statement.
Speaking of statements, he uses this one all the time,
and to me, it perfectly encapsulates what you're talking about.
And the phrase is you become us, we do not
become you. And that's how they go about recruiting, and
they make sure you understand as a potential player, student

(01:18:31):
athlete that Purdue that it doesn't really matter how many
stars you have besides your name.

Speaker 2 (01:18:36):
If you're a great.

Speaker 6 (01:18:37):
High school player or stand out on the AAU circuit,
that's great, but we are not going to cater to
your needs, your whims, nor you're playing time or how
many shots you need to get in the game. Again,
you become us, we do not become you. Now, if
you choose to become part of the program, the chances
are probably going to win a whole bunch of games.
And indeed, if you are good enough, trust me, you

(01:19:00):
will you'll end up playing professional basketball. We've seen it
with the guys that have now come through Purdue and
especially in the last five to seven years. So it's
really it's really that easy, Jake, the old you become us,
we do not become you mantra.

Speaker 2 (01:19:14):
In the game of recruiting.

Speaker 6 (01:19:15):
Now, I understand it's a little bit easier when your
guy Matt Painter's age. Speaking of fifty five, he's fifty five.
He's been added a while, he's had a lot of success.
You can be a little bit more brazen in your
approach and recruiting when you've had the success he has had.
But obviously it's working, and I don't see that philosophy
changing anytime soon, like ever. Actually so, and that's that's

(01:19:38):
true with the guys you know, Purdue picked up in
the portal this year. That's true with Omer Meyer, the
freshman from from Tel Aviv. They all understand the deal.

Speaker 1 (01:19:49):
And that keep perduly right. I know that we don't know,
you know, we haven't seen it in Big ten level yet.
But Meyer looks like a kid that can play.

Speaker 6 (01:19:56):
He can play obviously, where he'll struggle whereas most freshman
do early in the Big Ten season with the physicality
of the league, and that's something he's going to have
to learn to adapt to. Luckily, we have a couple
of guys on our team already that that have done
their best to try to, you know, welcome him to
the world of college basketball with the way they've been

(01:20:16):
going at him in practice every day.

Speaker 2 (01:20:18):
But yes, that's it.

Speaker 6 (01:20:21):
Man we bring in guys, brings in guys that as
long as they want to play for the name. Nettl
is saying, are you playing for the name that's on
the front of the chest or on the back of
the jersey? For due tries very hard to make sure
those are the guys that they're getting, the ones that
want to play for the name that's across the front
of the chest.

Speaker 1 (01:20:38):
I know this much. Rob Blackman is not a guy
that in college as a freshman kind of struggled from
the get go. My understanding is, to borrow another theme
from this conversation, he was a man of the people
in Evansville, Indiana, from the day he arrived on campus.
Isn't that right, Rob?

Speaker 6 (01:20:54):
Well, let's just say I never missed a party, that's.

Speaker 1 (01:20:59):
Right, And they had a lot of them in Evansville,
I'm sure right.

Speaker 6 (01:21:02):
Somehow nice thing about a campus of only two thousand students.
Whoever is hosting the party is basically hosting the whole campus.

Speaker 1 (01:21:11):
The word gets out quickly, right, Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:21:14):
Never conflicting parties, because he knew it when that wasn't working.
So whoever was having the party that night, basically everyone
was there, including yours truly, that's for certain.

Speaker 1 (01:21:23):
Purdueing USC coming up on Saturday. Rob Blackman with the pregame,
the intermission, the post game as well. Rob appreciated as always.

Speaker 6 (01:21:32):
All right, Jake, thank you man, Happy birthday, brother.

Speaker 1 (01:21:34):
Thank you too. Rob Blackman joining us on the program.
Speaking of that game, they are going to honor the
two thousand team and one of the guys that had
the biggest play I think of that year, to be
honest with you, not named Drew Brees, is going to
join us, coming up fifteen minutes from now. Now, I
have a question here. I mentioned that earlier today I

(01:21:55):
had to do, not had to do, but I had
an appointment for a stress a cardiac stress test, and
one of the doctors that was providing going over the test.
I then I just was having a conversation about the
results of said test, and I jokingly said to my

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to Matman, I jokingly said, did the doctor that administered
the test comment how cool I am? And he replied
with and I'm curious of this. His reply was, yes,
he also is a type A personality. Now, Eddie, would
you consider me a type A personality? You're here around

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me on a regular basis. Absolutely, Okay, I don't. I
don't agree with that, but let me let me read
for you. I've let me read for you the definition
of type A personality, and I want you to ding
or buzz whether you feel that I fall into these
categories okay, okay? The first setting very very high, exacting

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standards for themselves and often becoming overly critical of their
own work. Okay. Secondly, a tendency to juggle multiple tasks
at once, believing that it would lead to greater excuse me,
okay this one, now, this is a real test. An
intense focus on work, sometimes to the point of having

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an unhealthy relationship with their jobs. Okay, Now this one
I'm also very curious about. I need you to answer
honestly with a dinger a buzz okay. Can be aggressive, unfriendly,
and prone to anger, especially under stress. When am I
ever aggressive and unfriendly.

Speaker 3 (01:23:41):
All the time?

Speaker 1 (01:23:42):
I'm as friendly as it gets. I walk down the
street and strangers just walk up and have conversation with me, Okay.
Impatience and easily irritated, becoming frustrated or angry when facing
interruptions or delays. I think, now you're just having fun
with this?

Speaker 3 (01:24:01):
Oh really?

Speaker 1 (01:24:02):
Sense of urgency and time pressure, feeling the need to
get things done quickly, disliking delays, and feeling rushed. I
don't think that's it. By the way, speaking of which,
did you finish that thing I sent you earlier today? Okay?
Competitive nature, strong inclination to be the best and to
compete with others in various aspects of life. You find
me competitive?

Speaker 3 (01:24:23):
Oh yes, Jake, Yeah, you're competitive all right?

Speaker 7 (01:24:26):
Really?

Speaker 3 (01:24:26):
Yeah? Okay?

Speaker 1 (01:24:28):
And then lastly, a relentless desire to succeed in achieve goals,
often setting high standards for themselves.

Speaker 3 (01:24:34):
I got three texts. You're having too much fun with
that dinger. The ding button is getting to work out.

Speaker 1 (01:24:41):
Here's the thing is part of being a Type A personality,
not recognizing that your type A personality because I don't
consider myself any of those things. I since I think
I'm just a laid back dude. Right, you can't be
laid back? Yeah, I don't think I've multitasked that much,
do I?

Speaker 3 (01:25:00):
I mean, what in my life? I'm I multitasking? Well, Jake,
you're multitasking a lot of things, Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:25:10):
I honestly, I always thought of Type A personalities as
people that are like no one wants to be around them,
And so now I'm like, wait a minute, is this
is he telling me no one wants to be around me?
Is that what this means?

Speaker 2 (01:25:21):
That?

Speaker 1 (01:25:21):
Which is? Then I have to If that's the case,
then the competitive nature in me wants to come out
and give myself a little bit more ambition to make
sure that there is no more delay in people wanting
to be around me because I want it like right
now right, I'm want to dive all in and make
this perfect. And if I've got to do a couple
of things to do it at one time, no problem.

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I tell people who are Type B are are care free,
less competitive. This is you, though, social, outgoing. Yeah see,
I'm with type B, your type A. Just because you
have one trait in the type B, it doesn't make
your type B. How about this, I'm type three point five.
I gotta three five hours, got some bees, got some aze?

Speaker 2 (01:26:01):
Right?

Speaker 1 (01:26:04):
You really think I'm competitive?

Speaker 3 (01:26:06):
Yes? I don't think that you and I have ever
had an occasion to compete with anything?

Speaker 2 (01:26:10):
Have we?

Speaker 7 (01:26:11):
Uh?

Speaker 3 (01:26:12):
Well, duh? Fantasy football? J Come on now? Yeah, but
you cheating that because you're the commissioner. I don't cheat it. Okay,
I was the last team in the playoffs last year
and I won. It's not cheating at all. Yeah, but
you're the commissioner. You were like rigging moves and trades
and all that. If I remember correctly, I helped you
out because you dropped Tyreek Hill and you're like, hey,
I didn't mean to do that. Any other Commissioner're like, no, sorry,

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that's what you did.

Speaker 1 (01:26:36):
It's a nice enough guy, but back in. But you
did understand how it would happen, right.

Speaker 3 (01:26:41):
Because I know, but the most league managers would not
be understandable, Jake.

Speaker 1 (01:26:46):
Purdue found themselves in a situation where they needed a
big time play, and they sat there and said, maybe
a quarter of a century from now, we will continue
to celebrate this team. And I mean that in a
good way, because it would be such a special, remarkable
season and one that any program would want to enjoy,
and Perdue did enjoy it because when they needed it most,
they died of a play and one guy delivered. And

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that guy who is going to be celebrated along with
his teammates on Saturday for Purdue USC joins US next.

Speaker 2 (01:27:16):
Second down and.

Speaker 1 (01:27:17):
Ten offensive only continues to do a great time.

Speaker 5 (01:27:25):
Touchdown came South Crimes Toledo.

Speaker 1 (01:27:34):
That's how it sounded as Purdue knocked off Ohio State
en route to the two thousand Rose Bowl, where they
would face the Washington Huskies. Drew Brees connecting to the
pride of Laurence CenTra High School Seth Morales, who joins
us now on the program as a number of Boilers
will be on hand this Saturday to honor that two

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thousand Rose Bowl winning team. Seth, how are you?

Speaker 8 (01:27:58):
I'm great, I'm great. Thanks for having me.

Speaker 1 (01:28:00):
How often do you see and or hear that play?

Speaker 2 (01:28:03):
Oh?

Speaker 8 (01:28:03):
Man, it's probably weakly. Somebody will send me a text
or it'll pop up in a Hey, I remember that
play when I bumped into somebody you know on the street,
So it's it's definitely out there often.

Speaker 1 (01:28:17):
Here is a really weird question. Okay, you have seen
that play so many times?

Speaker 2 (01:28:24):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (01:28:24):
I'm curious. Are you able to remember what it was
like in the first person? In other words, can you
still see it as it happened to your eyes in
the moment or has that been now replaced by the
video image of it?

Speaker 8 (01:28:40):
No, I still remember it clear as day, I mean
first person, you know, late in the game running that route,
I mean, everything kind of got really really quiet, and
it was in the evening time, so it was kind
of dark and that ball was up there in the
air for quite some time. But I just I remember
thinking to myself, don't drop the ball. Don't drop the ball,

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because I was so wide open. Catch it here that
you know, the crowd war and you know, it was
kind of slow in motion in the last like five
to ten yards. If you see me kind of run
into the end zone. It was kind of like a release,
and so I remember it kind of step by step.

Speaker 2 (01:29:17):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:29:17):
Reggie Wayne once told me that the hardest passes to
catch were the ones where you were wide open. Is
that true?

Speaker 2 (01:29:24):
Yeah?

Speaker 8 (01:29:25):
Absolutely, I think the ones were it really matters and
you're wide open and if you if you drop it,
you're in infamy. You know, it's just it's infamous if
you do that.

Speaker 2 (01:29:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (01:29:36):
So I think I think that that play, given kind
of the stakes of you know, whether we've win the
Big Ten Championship or not beating Ohio State, it had
that much more kind of impact on it. So yeah,
it definitely matters. But when you're when you're the only
guy out there and you're alone, you better not drop
the ball.

Speaker 1 (01:29:55):
And I was fortunate, you know, when you were in
a play like that, and Brees obviously is the guy
delivering you the ball, right, And we now know just
and obviously you knew ahead of most people just the
precision of Drew Brees. It goes without saying. But when
you're in the huddle and you're calling up that play
in the games and the balance and you're I think
you're on your own thirty six or something like that,

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So it is the play called where it is like, hey,
this is going to you or were you simply one
of these say three or four progression reads that he
had and you didn't know whether you were going to
be the guy or not. Does that make sense what
I'm asking it does?

Speaker 2 (01:30:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (01:30:34):
When I got when I heard that play call, I
knew I wasn't an option. It's usually going to option
one or two and which at the time it was
Vinnie Sutherland or John Stanford, And uh I was I
was the fourth usual option on that type of play.
So if you watch him, you know, you broke the huddle.
You know, in those situations, a lot of times you're

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run a two minute and you're gassed, and so a
lot of guys like if they're on the back side
of a play, they're not going to run their ass off.
And so for me, it was like, hey, you know,
every play, you know, to the best of your ability.
I think that's why I was on the field. And
you know, for me, keep sprinting and I had pretty
good stamina. I think I had already had about six

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catches the game, so I knew I just was going to,
you know, bust my tail off and try to do
what I needed to do. But fortunately, Drew was such
a sound quarterback that he was able to run through
his progression. You know, Option one and two weren't there,
and if you watch it, it's just that's the talent
in him. He was disciplined enough to go to three
and then four and the safety did on the third

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receiver and I was wide open.

Speaker 2 (01:31:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:31:40):
I was going to say, you know, it's it's fascinating, seth,
and I mean not to you know, there's there's no
point in going back now and going roster by roster
on who the other quarterbacks were in the Big ten.
But we'll just use Big ten as the example, you know,
how many Big Ten quarterbacks make that play? You know
how many get to the point. And I don't mean
that to knock you, but you were mentioning, you know,

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you're you're read three or four. How many guys even
get that deep in their progression to make that play?

Speaker 8 (01:32:07):
Yeah, I mean it's maybe one or two if you
think of the time, like Tom Brady was before that,
maybe a year before, but maybe you know during the
Big Ten that season, probably no one. He just had,
you know, the discipline. He would outwork a lot of
people in film room and just he kind of he
knew how to kind of go through that progression. And so,
I mean, future Hall of Famer quarterback. I was fortunate,

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right time, right place, all Americ quarterback, you know, Hall
of Fame, you know, NFL Super Bowl winning quarterback in
the future. And so I was just fortunate to have
a really accurate STARp.

Speaker 2 (01:32:43):
Dude, d're on the rock to me.

Speaker 1 (01:32:45):
Those guys you mentioned by the way, I mean Drew Brees,
you know obviously John Standerford who was a great player
out of Monrovia, of Vinny Sutherland, Tim Stratton, the tight end,
Stu Schweigert, who was like a walking interception, ag and Adell,
Travis Dorsch as well. You guys are all among those
that will be honored this weekend at ross Aid for
the twenty fifth anniversary. How excited are you and how

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much do you talk to those guys?

Speaker 8 (01:33:09):
Yeah, I mean I just text John Stanford today. We're
talking often. You know, you kind of stick A lot
of times you stick with kind of your close, your
close knit guys. I was really tight with the receiver group,
and a lot of those guys are still here in Indianapolis.
There's a text thread with Vinnie and Stanford and at
Simpson and Donald Winston. We all kind of stick together

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from a wide out or a wide receiver standpoint, but
that crew was really tight. So we all try to
come back a couple of games the season to connect
and a lot of guys, you know, a Loafayette is
the way to kind of the common ground to bring
everyone back. So, I mean, Purdue doesn't make it to
the Rose Bowl too often, so you know, we're celebrated
up there. We're grateful for that, and so it's fun

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to see those guys. But a lot of the guys
stay in touch in a meaningful way. Team was really special,
full of a bunch of leaders and guys that played
in the league and are doing great things outside of
you know, outside of football, you know, later in their career,
with their families and the profession. So it's just really
fun to kind of look back and see just how

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special of a group that two thousand team was.

Speaker 1 (01:34:18):
You know, it's weird, Seth, And I'm gonna when I
say this, you're probably gonna exhale and be like, dude, really,
you're having me on to ascess. So, yeah, are you
familiar with Mike Prewitt, the great running back? You know,
they were the Prewitt brothers, but Mike Prewitt was a
really good Purdue back in the mid seventies. Are you
familiar with Mike Prewett?

Speaker 8 (01:34:35):
Yeah, yeah, Yeah, definitely familiar.

Speaker 1 (01:34:37):
So Mike Prewitt would be to you what you are
to today's boiler Makers. And when you hear it that way,
that's when you think it doesn't In other words, to me,
it seems like three years ago, right, I mean, it
seems like three to five years ago, and it is
worth celebrating because it has been that long since, and

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yet you have this group of players now that there
are maybe maybe this is what is good for Purdue
football currently to see that example that is there for them.
I mean, how much do you follow today's Purdue players.

Speaker 8 (01:35:11):
Yeah, I mean we we're pretty We're pretty tight. We've
had guys like Rondell Moore that came through the program,
had a lot of talent. He was an intern for
our business at the Morales Group. So I stay pretty
in touch, you know, whether it's Coach Walters or Coach
Odom or whoever's the new coach. You know, we try
to stay in touch and go back and speak to

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the team. And I think, you know, you know, for me,
it was like Bob Greasy and Leroy Keys. Those guys
are kind of the Puet kind of the late seventies
yea or late sixties, early seventies. You know, those guys
were iconic. They were up in the you know, rafters.
You could see they're all American status. So you know,
we want to be like them. So but I think

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it's great trying to be intentional about getting back there
and saying, hey, this is possible. This is like the
last ranked Big Ten recruiting class, and we ended up
winning the Big ten championship and going to Rose Bowl.
So it can be done when a lot of people,
you know, kind of have you, you know, they're not
favoring you, or you're kind of that underdog, and so

(01:36:13):
I mean, I think that's the story of the two
thousand team is like gritty underdog overachievers that really made headways,
you know in that season.

Speaker 1 (01:36:22):
Now you mentioned the Morales Group, which you're the president
of the Morales Group. Correct, yes, okay, and that is
I was thinking real estate. But correct me if I'm
wrong here in terms of what it is that your
business does today.

Speaker 8 (01:36:35):
Yeah, the bulk of what we do is we help
people find jobs. Weren't staffing and recruiting.

Speaker 1 (01:36:39):
Okay, sorry, okay, now all good.

Speaker 8 (01:36:41):
We've been doing that for twenty two years now. My
dad started it and I jumped into the business right
out of college. So it's been fun growing this thing
and using it for good. And yeah, so I've been
doing that for the last twenty two years.

Speaker 1 (01:36:55):
Well, the reason I ask I'm curious of this, you know,
I think that we think Seth Morales is our guest
from that two thousand per new team that's going to
be honored this weekend. At ross Aid with the Boilers
in USC, with college athletics in general. Seth. We think
that every player on the field that we're watching, that
the barometer in the ceiling is the NFL, and that

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college success is defined by whether or not a guy
goes on and plays in the NFL. And yet there
is so much that can be learned from just the
team aspect of it. What things did you learn from
Joe Tiller or from working with other guys on the
roster that you carry with you today.

Speaker 8 (01:37:37):
Yeah, I mean with Joe Tiller, it was all about
just hard nos in mindset. He was a psychologist, and
he pushed you to get really uncomfortable. With Drew Brees,
it was put in the extra work when you were
heading home to the dorms, he was putting in a
couple extra hours from like ten pm on to do

(01:37:59):
extra film. And so seeing guys like that excellent at
their at their craft, it was kind of like it
was masterclass if you were taking notes. And so you
see guys like Matt Light who is just kind of
the joy of the locker room and jokester but like
very philanthropic, and seeing just how he's posts, you know,

(01:38:21):
new England Patriots super Bowl winning team, you know, seeing
how he's kind of carrying himself, and so it's been
fun to like learn from those guys. Cut it up,
but it was I think for me it was like,
you know, Coach Cheney, who was our offensive coordinator, he
was a mastermind from from an offensive standpoint. So these guys, man,
we had so many talented coaches and players, and the

(01:38:43):
way they brought themselves. If you just if you were
paying attention to here antennas were up, you were going
to learn quite a bit.

Speaker 1 (01:38:51):
At what point did you realize Drew Brees was special?
Is there a particular moment that you can recall where
you just went, yeah, okay, this is something here.

Speaker 2 (01:39:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (01:39:01):
I mean, I remember we were playing ten State into
the third quarter. We're in kind of the end zone
coming out, We've got a march like ninety yards and
he's in he's in the buddle, and you can feel
the ground shaking below you because there you got this
upper deck. It's a white out Penn State. You know,
they get all their fans there and they do a

(01:39:23):
great job of kind of creating a tense environment, and
Drew was just collective in the huddle, he was really sound.
He was like, Hey, we're going to march down. It's
just kind of this like all assured presence that you
typically wouldn't see when you're down and you're in that
type of environment. But the guy just knew how to
like keep it together and keep the team going and

(01:39:44):
wasn't afraid to call guys out in the huddle either.
And so I think those moments early on when I
was a sophomore just kind of washing. It was kind
of midway through the season as we were getting to
run through our kind of month of August or October
when we made kind of that run. It was great
to see him do those things, and it really kind
of stuck out to me that he was going to

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be super special.

Speaker 1 (01:40:06):
Does he also stay in touch with guys?

Speaker 8 (01:40:09):
Yeah, he does, man, he does. He's got a couple
of guys that he's really to tight with that you know,
he was in the dorms with when he first started.
But he does a good job of kind of circling
around and you know, a phone call, our attacks, you know,
he gets I mean a lot of people are asking
him for stuff and he's got to kind of guard
his time. But for the most part. I mean, he's
pretty accessible and I appreciate that.

Speaker 1 (01:40:30):
Okay. Lastly, Seth Morales our guest purdueing USC coming up Saturday,
will be honoring the two thousand rows bull team, of
which Seth was a part of it. When you look
at this year's version of Purdue, I don't know how
much you still you know, keep in touch you mentioned
it earlier, or follow what they are doing? What jumps
out of you? What are you curious to see here?

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And what truly is probably their first big test with us,
which it sounds so weird to say USC in the
Big ten, but nonetheless.

Speaker 2 (01:40:57):
Yeah, it is wild.

Speaker 8 (01:40:58):
Yeah, I think what I've seen early on is not
a lot of penalties, discipline. The locker room has been
won by coach odum Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:41:07):
I think these.

Speaker 8 (01:41:08):
Guys are trying. You know, you guys got You've got
guys like Devin makby Uh that are you know, talented
and leading the charge. But you've got some guys that
are really trying to make a name for themselves.

Speaker 2 (01:41:20):
So I don't know, we'll see.

Speaker 8 (01:41:21):
I think their offenses look pretty good. You know, they've
been able to put some points on the board. They
responded pretty well last week as they got down in
a little bit of a hole. But you know, I
think I think they'll they'll keep it interesting. USC is
a little I don't know, I would say they're They're
not always the most consistent team out there, right, yeah, yeah,

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very very talented, always have you know, four and five
star players, and you know, have some pretty good coaches.
But I think, pretty well, we'll make it interesting. And
I love, you know, these big games.

Speaker 6 (01:41:54):
Early on.

Speaker 8 (01:41:54):
It was like when Tiller came in early on to
the to the Big ten and we took it.

Speaker 2 (01:41:58):
To Notre Dame.

Speaker 8 (01:41:59):
You know, it was kind of like that that keystone
moment for him, that signature wind to really say hey,
we're here. And so I think they'll keep it interesting.
We'll see how it turns out, but it's not going
to be a blowout, and I think they'll show up
and do their thing.

Speaker 1 (01:42:13):
You know, it's I will tell you this, Seth being
somebody who grew up as a diehard Indiana fan. I mean,
I grew up in Indianapolis. I was an IU guy.
I went to IU and then when I got out
it would have been a little bit after you were
playing there. But when I worked at Channel six in Indianapolis,
and I Purdue was kind of my beat, and I

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had to cover Purdue football, if I say, had to
for a couple of years there. And I just loved
Joe Tiller. I mean, you know, I don't know what
he was like in terms of an in day to
day coach intensity level, but in terms of just his
candor with the media, his accessibility, and his personality. I
just had such a huge amount of respect for both

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Gene Katie and Joe Tiller. It was a pleasure to
cover those guys.

Speaker 8 (01:43:01):
Yeah, I mean, I think they embodied Purdue to its fullest.
They're gritty, are working, old school guys, you know, do
it the blue collar way. And you know, he was
he was a guy that he wasn't going to be
warm and fuzzy, but he was also going to be
really true to his word and you were going to
respect him when he came in. And I feel some
of that with with coach owed him, and so you know,

(01:43:23):
it's it's a good I think it's a good recipe
for Purdue football getting getting that back into the state
of affairs.

Speaker 1 (01:43:30):
Somebody just texted me, Seth, good lord, I watched that
clip on YouTube just now. Seth was wide open and
he's lucky he didn't fall down. Looked like he stumbled.

Speaker 8 (01:43:38):
Yeah, yeah, I should have. I should have fell, you know,
I was. I was just trying to catch the damn ball.

Speaker 1 (01:43:45):
Sure right, Yeah, it was up there.

Speaker 8 (01:43:50):
For a while, and yeah, thankfully I had a you know,
quarterback put it right in my lap.

Speaker 2 (01:43:54):
And you know, you're.

Speaker 8 (01:43:55):
Kind of gassed. At the end of the two minutes,
you're just kind of dead. It's hard to, you know,
make a play like that. So I was just trying
to keep my feet and glad I didn't stumble and
made it work.

Speaker 1 (01:44:06):
It's pretty cool though. Certainly enjoy it this weekend with
all the guys and just soaking in what will always
be a great celebration in honoring that great team in
the Rose Bowl. Seth, enjoy it, man. I appreciate the
time on short notice today.

Speaker 2 (01:44:20):
Absolutely, thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:44:21):
Appreciate it. Seth Morales joining us from Purdue. Man, can
you imagine and I remember Eddie talking to you know,
I used to do a show with Reggie Wayne and
one time, and I can't remember what game it was.
I know what it was. It was when Reggie. Wayne
was in the towards the end of his career when
Luck was a rookie and the fabulous game he had

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against the Packers, and then later in that season, because
that was this, we did either two or three years
of shows with Reggie. But later in that season there
was a play where he was open and he caught
a pass and he got run down from behind. I think,
or maybe, but he was say, man, that end zone

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just seemed to kept running away from me, keep running
away from me. As I was trying to get it.
That's when I realized I'm not as young anymore. And
he said, but some of those plays I had against
Green Bay were easier than this one, because it is
difficult when you are that wide open and the ball.
I mean, I would imagine. I mean, Eddie, you played baseball, right, yeah,

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but you were a catcher, right, Did you ever play
like in the outfield second MASI I've always marveled, like
with pop flies in Major League Baseball, how easy oftentimes
those guys make it look. But I would think sometimes
even that's more difficult than just a quick instinctive play,
you know what I mean. But I mean, I was
the heck of a play for sure. And he's right

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about USC. I mean, I think the branding and the
marketing and just the prestige of USC. You feel like
you know exactly who USC is because it's USC. But
you know, they were so down last year and they
have talent. I mean USC. It goes without saying USC

(01:46:09):
should have They should fall out of bed and have
three first round receivers on their roster. And you know
that's a team that's looking for a bounce back as well,
and you know, we'll see what happens with them now.
Indiana taken on Indiana State Friday night. That game also,
to me, that's a fun one because I think we

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know that Indiana certainly should be able to get a
win against Indiana State, but just a Friday night game
at Memorial Stadium, and you know, this has not become
this has become kind of a tradition where they have
a Friday game each and every year. But the atmosphere
alone is going to be pretty awesome. And I know

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there has been some resentments the wrong word, but conversation
as to whether or not college football should play Friday
night games, because I think even Tom Allen said like
that belongs to high school kids and that that should
be where it is. Your thoughts, Eddie on whether or

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not college Division one game should be scheduled on a Friday.

Speaker 3 (01:47:16):
I think it would just depend on the network television
side of things, like for example, this game on Friday
is not on Peacock, it's not the or whatever any
case like that. So not a big fan of it,
but I understand why they have to do it sometimes,
so I'd rather not have it. But you know, football football, Jake,
people are going to show up.

Speaker 1 (01:47:35):
Do you ever get fomo? Then what they call it fomo?
The fear of out you ever experience when's the last
time you had FOMO?

Speaker 3 (01:47:41):
I think Jake would be Also, I think it's a
little different. I don't know how many students that go
to IU are from Bloomington, Like what percentage would you
put it?

Speaker 1 (01:47:53):
Oh, it's very, very very small.

Speaker 3 (01:47:55):
Okay, So if you have a small percentage of students
that are at Bloomington or from Bloomington High School either
or more than likely, still, I ustuns are gonna be
at the football on right.

Speaker 1 (01:48:08):
I think it's the aspect of the attention of the
viewing audience of people that might normally go to the
Caravel game or the Warren game, or you know, the
Broaderpool game, whatever, and now instead they're going and watching
college football on a Friday. The attention level of it.
But you know that the one thing, and I've said
this before, the one area from when I worked in television,

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and I worked in television for I don't know how
many years, and I love doing radio, and I would
prefer doing radio than doing local television. The one area
where I get fomo, the fear of missing out. It
happened to me last Friday. Admittedly I was last Friday
as I was getting ready to take off because I

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flew out of town just in that like the first
time you feel that little, that little hint of a
chill in the air, and the sun set like around
seven point thirty just has kind of that crystal non humidity,
non humidity like pristine looked to it. Yep, that time

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of year. The one time that I get FOMO is
I really do miss going out on Friday nights and
covering two high school football games because we would always
go to one game, get like the first half highlights,
go to another game, get the second half highlights, rush
back to the station put together a story for Friday
Night Football, or in the case of thirteen, you know,
it was Operation Football, or you know the sports the

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fifth quarter I think on Channel. I mean, everybody had
their own version of it. But doing that and seeing
the excitement and the competitiveness of high school football, to me,
that is the one thing that I miss from doing
local television. I always always enjoyed it. Colts and Broncos
coming up Sunday, Lucas Oil Stadium. Matt Taylor will be

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on the call and he joins us next. Colts are
hoping it'll be a beautiful day coming up Sunday, late start,
Lucas Oil Stadium. When I say late, I mean not
your typical one o'clock start, four o'clock hour. Colts and
Broncos joining us now on the always busy, especially today
and shockingly unsponsored guest line. Matt Taylor is the voice

(01:50:18):
of the Indianapolis Colts. Matt, how are you?

Speaker 7 (01:50:21):
I'm good, Jake? What's going on?

Speaker 4 (01:50:23):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (01:50:23):
Just set for this game?

Speaker 2 (01:50:24):
Right?

Speaker 1 (01:50:24):
I mean, you know, the weeks start to I don't
know how it is for you, but with each week
of the NFL season and they start to just fly past,
But I think Monday is usually kind of a recap
day and figure out where you are from an injury standpoint.

Speaker 2 (01:50:42):
Day.

Speaker 1 (01:50:42):
Tuesday you get confirmation on the injury, and then on
Wednesday I kind of start to shift towards now, let's
see who's up next on the docket, And so that means,
you know, Thursday, Friday, you're talking a lot about the opponent.
So let's go to Denver. Actually, before we do that,
let's go back to, like say, Monday Tuesday, from the
injury standpoint, Is there anybody that has popped up that

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you think might be of question coming up this weekend
that we did not anticipate being the case.

Speaker 7 (01:51:10):
No, I don't think so.

Speaker 9 (01:51:11):
I mean, if you want to go back to Monday
and Tuesday, we find out about Tarvarius Ward and the
concussion protocol Jalen Jones. It sounds like it's going to
miss some time, so you would think he's not going
to be able to go on Sunday. So that means
the cornerback depth is being tested. It's been pushed pretty
good right now. Early on in the season. You know,
a guy like Makai Blackman, who was traded for at

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the end of the preseason's been here.

Speaker 7 (01:51:35):
Roughly two plus weeks.

Speaker 9 (01:51:37):
It's like he's going to probably start or at least
at the very minimum, see a huge role within this defense.
So you know that's a storyline, you know, going into
this game when you've got guys like Courtland Sutton and
Marvin memzer're trying to shut down Liot Lottu is the
name to keep an eye on on the injury report
today that'll come out probably in like the next hour

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and a half, two hours. You know, he popped up
on the end report yesterday, So I mean that's a
big one. When you got you know, one of your
defensive ends that you're relying on to kind of break
out this year and a sophomore efforts, you know, that's
really really important.

Speaker 7 (01:52:11):
So you know, those are the big ones. And you know,
knock on wood, the.

Speaker 9 (01:52:15):
Colts are still experiencing as of right now, a pretty
clean bill a health early on the season, which most
teams are to be fair. But you know, as you know,
as you were just alluded to there in the open,
you know, it's a marathon and everything starts to kind
of blend together, and you know the season is going
to start to take its toll, and you're gonna see

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more and more important bodies on the injury report show
up for the Colts.

Speaker 1 (01:52:38):
You know, Matt. One thing that I was thinking about,
and I'm going to take the quarterback answer out of
this because it's it goes without saying. I mean, we've
talked about that competition, you know, since day one. But
if you look at marquee players for the Colts, or
really any starter for the Colts, which player for the
Colts would you say as the closest in terms of

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the backup the least amount of drop off when you
go from And I mean that as a respect to
the backup, not as a drop off from the starter.
Do you get what I'm saying? So, which position are
they the safest? Where you say, yeah, I mean, look,
you obviously want your starter, but let's not sleep on
this guy that's going to have to step in because
they got a lot of they got a guy right

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there where there's not a huge drop off. That answer
that position would be where.

Speaker 9 (01:53:28):
Great question, I think right now, just hearing you say that,
I would probably say wide receiver, just because you know
you've got five of them up on game day and
you know your your two rotational guys that aren't quote
unquote starters at least not you know, and when you
go three wide receiver set, you know, to begin a game,

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guys like ad Mitchell and Ashton Doling, like, I don't
think there is any drop off, very minimal when when
let's say, if Pierce were to get banged up or
Josh downs were to get banged up, or.

Speaker 7 (01:54:04):
Michael Pittman Junior.

Speaker 9 (01:54:05):
I mean Ady Mitchell I think is an emerging player.
I mean Ashton Dulan just flat out delivers every time
he's his numbers call, whether it's on special teams or
kick return or you know, a slot receiver, you know,
running an end around like he did last week almost
scoring a touchdown against the Dolphins. So that's my answer

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is you've got two really good depth pieces. Don't forget
about Anthony Gould too, So I guess I got to
correct myself. He had six wide receivers all up the
other day against the Dolphins. So I think that's probably
your you know, outside a cornerback on defense, which I
still think is pretty pretty good when everybody's healthy, but
it's not as of right now. But when everybody's healthy,

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at that wide receiver spot. The Colts have a lot
of options. A lot of the guys that flat out
aren't gonna play a lot, and they're really good football players,
kind of in the wings, you know, Matt.

Speaker 1 (01:54:56):
So you've worked in that. I'm going to give you
an introduction to another aquariism, Okay, and I've had a
lot of success with these. So you've worked in this building, Matt.
You know Scott Johnston, right, love Scotty Okay, he's his producer,
so yeah, that's right. So yeah, and you work with
him on the cults radio side. So Scotty Johnston, for

(01:55:18):
those that have not heard me say this before, Scotty
Johnston is the guy that every single company needs. And
I call it the copier guy. And the reason I
call it the copier guy is not because they're the
Rob Schneider character from SNL, but because everybody has that
situation where you walk past the copier and somebody's standing
there dumbfounded, and you're like, what's going on? I don't

(01:55:40):
know this thing. It's not working. I just need to
print them out. It's not working. And so then you
say to yourself, well, call Scotty, he'll know how to
fix it because Scotty can do everything. He has the
answer to everything. He knows where everybody's bring.

Speaker 2 (01:55:51):
All.

Speaker 1 (01:55:51):
That is Ashton Dueling, the Scotty Johnston copier guy of
the Colts.

Speaker 7 (01:55:57):
Ashton Doan is.

Speaker 9 (01:55:58):
The guy that, like you're in a all the hurt
if he's not if like if he shows up sick
one day and it's like, oh crush, Like we don't
even know all the things Ashton Doling.

Speaker 1 (01:56:07):
That's exactly correct, right, he can do that can feel
like seven roles, right.

Speaker 9 (01:56:11):
Yeah, he just does them and nobody even knows that
he's doing him right, and you know it's it's essential business.
I mean that's exactly you know who Scott Johnson is.
And you know, I think we all like to think
we have a little Scott Johnston in us. You know
we're hard to replace. We got some institutional knowledge about us, right,
But I think that's that's absolutely Ashton Doling man jack

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of all trades. He's juggling a lot of balls. He's
essential in a lot of different things. He has to
go home at night every night and watch like three
different versions of game tape because of all that he's
asked to do in his versatility. So I mean, he's
one of my favorite Colts. I mean, think about it.
He's lasted with the Colts for seven years. He signed
multiple contract extensions in free agency. You know, went to

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Malone University. That's not even a real place anymore in
terms of football. They don't play football there anymore. So
you know, the average lifespan of an NFL players three years. Uh,
and it's even less for undrafted guys. And he's just kept,
you know, sticking around, made himself necessary, and he's just
a great story and just an even better guy.

Speaker 1 (01:57:15):
I'm assuming that you would have to know this because
of your job, Matt. So if you know the answer
to this, I want you to confess up front. I
know the answer, because then it's not as fun. Can
you tell me the town or the athletic nickname of
Malone University.

Speaker 7 (01:57:31):
I can tell you the town, I can't tell you
the nickname.

Speaker 1 (01:57:33):
Okay, we're gonna guess the nickname. First off, give me
the town.

Speaker 7 (01:57:37):
Well, I better be right.

Speaker 9 (01:57:39):
I'm ninety percent sure it's in Canton, Ohio.

Speaker 1 (01:57:42):
Okay, I think that is right. Actually, Okay, so I'm
gonna say, Eddie, I'll let you guess first, Malone is
what what do you mean? Okay, thanks Matt, Matt. If Matt,
how about yourself? Malone is? What what's your guess on
the athletic nickname?

Speaker 3 (01:58:00):
I actually know this answer because their Division two school.

Speaker 1 (01:58:03):
I'm gonna go with Mustangs. Matt, what's your guess?

Speaker 9 (01:58:06):
I'll just say I'll just stick with the generic wild cast.

Speaker 3 (01:58:09):
Okay, Eddie, you ready for the answer. I am the pioneers.
Oh really, m okay, the pioneers. Well, I guess he
was a pioneer in terms of Malone players in the
NFL because they shut down the program, right.

Speaker 9 (01:58:21):
I think the only reason I knew that is because
I think when he was first picked up by the Colts,
I thought through osmosis, I heard that he used to
play his home games at the Hall of Fame Stadium.

Speaker 7 (01:58:31):
So that's how I was able.

Speaker 1 (01:58:32):
To put that his quarterback, by the way, Charles Ingles Wilder. Interestingly, now,
by the way, so Matt Taylor is our guest, Matt,
this particular game. I'm curious of this when you look
at what Daniel Jones was able to do in week one,
and he was obviously impressive, and I think Tyler Warren
is a big part of that. But I think Shane

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Steiken should get more credit for the way he called
that game to facilitate the strengths of Daniel Jones and
not illuminate any weaknesses there. I thought he called a
very Daniel Jones centric game. Did Shane stichen? Would they
have done things schematically different if Richardson was the quarterback?

Speaker 7 (01:59:15):
May like, you know, it's a great question.

Speaker 9 (01:59:17):
I mean, maybe outside of a couple of design runs
by the quarterback, don't I don't think so. I mean,
you had all the different components in the offense with
Jones last week that you saw when Richardson was kind
of humming last year towards the end of the season
or the middle part of the season, when he after

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he came back from the two game benching. You know,
you had, you had the RPO game. You had pushing
the ball down the field. You know, you had the
deep shot to Pierce. You had kind of the pump
faking go and the great ball on the sideline to
Pittman on the touchdown. You had you know, sort of
the audible at the line of scrimmage and motion out

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Josh Gowns on a fourth and two, I mean this
is you know, I think we talked about this maybe
last week or the week before. I mean, aesthetically, it's
it's pretty much the same offense for either quarterback, and
I think that was a big reason why, or one
of the biggest reasons why they targeted Daniel Jones, is
so that they can make it easier on the rest
of the offense no matter who the quarterback is, because

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aesthetically it's pretty much the same. The quarterbacks have similar
skill sets because Daniel Jones, as we saw in the
first game, really mobile, can get out of the pocket.
So I think the only difference is is that you
just you're not going to see and maybe heck, well
we might even see it this week.

Speaker 7 (02:00:38):
We don't know.

Speaker 9 (02:00:39):
But you know, towards the end of last year, you
were seeing you know, four or five design runs by Richardson.
Maybe not so much with Daniel Jones, but everything else
in terms of the playbook, you know, was designed for
a mobile, athletic quarterback, and both those guys kind of
fit that. Bill and I thought it was important for
the Colts to do that for the rest of the offense,

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so they didn't have to, you know, do a drastic
one to eighty like they've done in years past, going
from Richardson to Flacco or to Nick Foles or you know,
Matt Ryan or Sara Gardner Minshew. That's a drastically different
game plan, different style of offense, and that's a tough
swing for the rest of the skill players on offense

(02:01:21):
to deal with. So I think that's a big reason
why Daniel Jones is here, and you know, through one game,
they really executed the big picture game plan pretty falllessly.

Speaker 3 (02:01:31):
Matt last week, I was talking with Kevin Bone. I
was like, you know what I was thinking about this
going into week one, Like the three things that we
didn't really talk about during training camp. Number one, we
just talked about him and asked to doing being back,
being healthy. Number two, Josh Downs was healthy going into
week number one last week against Miami, and number three
he got overshadowed by just what Ady Mitchell and Alec

(02:01:51):
Pearce were doing in training camp, and that's Michael Pittman Junior.
I felt like nobody was really talking about Michael Pittman
Junior being healthy in the first week last against Miami,
six catches on eight targets, eighty yards and a touchdown.
Is you back to that twenty twenty three version that
we saw from Michael Pittman Junior within this Colts offense.

Speaker 9 (02:02:09):
Yeah, you know, any to your point, great, great observation.
You know, I don't want to make any excuses for
Michael Pittman Junior.

Speaker 7 (02:02:16):
I know that he won't make any excuses either.

Speaker 9 (02:02:18):
But I mean last year he gutted through a ton
of pain. And it was early on the season too,
I think it was like week three or four. You know,
that report flared up like he's going to go on IR,
he's done for the season, He's going to have to
have back surgery. I mean, not only did he not
have back surgery, he never went on IR, and I
think the rest of the season from that point on

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he only missed one game, but he had to go
through a lot of different stuff just to get ready
for Sundays. I mean, he didn't practice a whole lot
during the season last year. You know, had to receive
a lot of treatment, went through a lot of rehab,
you know, just to get himself in a position to play.
And so you know, I think all of that kind
of reflect did in his performance. Again, not making an

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excuse for him, but I mean he had sixty nine
catches last year, just a little bit over eight hundred yards.
That's a you know, historically a down productive Michael Pittman junior.

Speaker 7 (02:03:13):
Type of a season.

Speaker 9 (02:03:15):
And to see him go out there and ball and
get eighty yards receiving in a touchdown. To your point, Eddie,
you know, last week was a great Michael Pittman junior game.
Stat line wise, he only did what he did on
Sunday last season one time, right, I mean, only one
time in twenty twenty four did he have at least
eighty receiving yards in a touchdown. So to see him

(02:03:37):
do that right out of the gate, and he's back,
he's healthy, he's not dealing with that back thing anymore.
He's got that behind him. I mean he's gonna kind
of step in back into that you know, true highly
targeted go to receiver for the Colts, you know, their
number one guy to make a play in crunch time.
It was really good to see Michael Pittman Junior kind
of e merge back into that role and play healthy

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and then you have stability at the quarterback position around them.

Speaker 1 (02:04:02):
You know, Matt when you look at week one, Matt Taylor,
our guest voice of the Colts Colts and Broncos coming
up on Sunday, When you look at week one, and
that was such a dominating I mean, it's been a
while since we've seen the Colts have a game where
they just from the very start, I mean, that game
was never in question, and that's a kudos to the Colts.
That also may tell us a little bit about Miami.

(02:04:24):
But was there any area at all coming away from
that game? We've talked so much about the positives for Indianapolis,
what about those areas that might have been a forecast
of concern.

Speaker 2 (02:04:36):
Yeah?

Speaker 9 (02:04:37):
No, to your point, I mean, you got to you know,
you got to get out the microscope to find the negatives.
But I mean it was it was pretty close to
perfect as you can play in the NFL by modern standards.
You know, you win by twenty five points. That was
the largest margin of victory for the Colts in the
game since twenty twenty one. So it's been a long
time since they just kicked the holy you know what

(02:04:58):
out of somebody, and it.

Speaker 7 (02:04:59):
Was really freshing to see.

Speaker 9 (02:05:01):
But you know, there was still some things you got
to clean up right, there was some leakage on some
kickoff returns. You know, I think of the first kickoff
return of the game a thirty eight yarder, so some
good field positioned by the Dolphins in that case. And
then the biggest one for me is just and I
don't want to sound like a broken record because we've
been talking about this for the last three years and

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it's really hard to do. It's easier to say than
it is to do because every team in the NFL is.

Speaker 7 (02:05:26):
Dealing with it.

Speaker 9 (02:05:27):
It's like bullpen in Major League Baseball. Everybody needs it,
but there's not a lot of it. And it's defensive
tackle depth and the culture spoiled because they have two
of the best ones in the NFL still going and
Grover Stewart into Forrest Buckner. But the problem is the
reality is those guys can't play every down. They can't
go sixty sixty five plays throughout the course of a game.

(02:05:51):
They got to get their rest. You know, they get
nicked up here and there. You know, you're putting in
different packages to rush the passer and things like that,
but you know, when those guys are out of a lot,
there's still a little bit of just noticeable difference and.

Speaker 7 (02:06:05):
Being able to stop the run.

Speaker 9 (02:06:06):
They're a little bit vulnerable still in the middle.

Speaker 7 (02:06:09):
Of that defense against the run. And then I just
think big picture wise too.

Speaker 9 (02:06:13):
You look at what Miami did on offense last week,
which wasn't a lot because they got down early on
the scoreboard, they had to throw the ball. They didn't
run the ball all that much. You know, they ran
the ball for only seventy two yards for the game,
but if you look at their number of attempts, they
were still over six yards per attempt, So you know

(02:06:33):
that that's a little bit you know, eye eyebrow raising,
it's a little bit alarming, even if it was a
blowout type of a game. They got to get that
fixed because that'll come back to bite you when you
are in a dog fight of a team when you
do have, you know, an offense it's got a good
offensive line and a good running back they can kind
of slash and find those vision, you know, one cut runs.

(02:06:53):
That's something they got to get cleaned up. But again,
it's it's tough to find, you know, top end, backup,
defensive town depth because every team in the NFL searches
for those guys.

Speaker 1 (02:07:03):
Matt, as we know, Scott Johnston wears a different sports
jersey of a different athlete three hundred and sixty five
days a year. He has never worn the same one twice.
But if I see him wearing one of Ashton Doolan,
I'm gonna freak out because my worlds have collided.

Speaker 2 (02:07:15):
Easy spy to say it.

Speaker 1 (02:07:18):
Matt Taylor, Voice of the Colts. You can hear him
on Sunday. Matt, we appreciate it as always, man, have
a good call.

Speaker 7 (02:07:23):
I appreciate you, guys.

Speaker 1 (02:07:24):
Thank you, Matt Taylor joining us on the program. Up next,
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the bike of Eddy Grant, but rather that is my
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on the Crossover chat here, John, you are getting set
for one of the best places to be in Central Indiana.

Speaker 10 (02:08:08):
I am you should see what I'm showing to Eddie
right now on the live feed that's not live. You
should look into what I'm showing here right now. It's
very uh s one eighteen back in the day.

Speaker 3 (02:08:18):
Ask right there. Just call me Tom.

Speaker 10 (02:08:22):
Do you really want to know what's going on there?
By the way, I'm Tom Byron Junior here. Thank you
very much.

Speaker 1 (02:08:28):
No, Hey, I got it. Great belt you got going
on there? Thank you very much. Buddy.

Speaker 10 (02:08:32):
Hey, we got a special guest for the Crossover presented
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Speaker 2 (02:08:39):
What's up, Jake? Jimmy, how are you? Man?

Speaker 1 (02:08:42):
Jimmy, what's up?

Speaker 2 (02:08:42):
Man?

Speaker 1 (02:08:43):
Hey, Jimmy, listen, it is not going to be long.

Speaker 2 (02:08:46):
Brother.

Speaker 1 (02:08:46):
Before Eddie was just mentioning it. I mean, I think
we're only I don't know, six eight weeks or something.
From our typical pregame handshake before the Pacer games for
good luck. Man, I'm fired up.

Speaker 7 (02:08:56):
I love him. Yeah, I'm gonnaxcited, and I mean join you.

Speaker 10 (02:09:00):
I'm more optimistic than ever about this new team and
I'm loving it and I think matterings and takeover and you'll.

Speaker 2 (02:09:08):
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Speaker 1 (02:09:09):
I love this dude.

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right here.

Speaker 1 (02:09:13):
Jimmy's whole family, man, he is the absolute best. Aleson's
are great people, absolutely great. And John, that's know what,
you know.

Speaker 10 (02:09:19):
I kind of look at my family and I go, God,
we're just a bunch of dip blanks.

Speaker 1 (02:09:23):
What the hell you know, John? We have There are
a lot of things about doing this job that we're
very fortunate to do obviously, right, we get to have
a lot of fun. But you know, meeting people like
Jimmy and his family and getting to see them in
different supporting events and all that, that's what it's all about.

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