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Speaker 1 (00:00):
So here's the thing. If everybody's working for the weekend.
Right it's a Friday, it's glorious outside, finally starting to
get a little bit of cool in the air, meaning
that autumn is here. And if it's a Friday and
you're working for the weekend, the question and the big
spotlight amongst anybody in Indianapolis, there is one person that

(00:24):
we are most curious if, in fact today they're working
for the weekend. There is one person that we are
it is most enigmatic whether or not the work they
do today is in fact working for the weekend or
if we are again going to see them go into
work and then have the weekend off. We will get

(00:47):
to that and try to analyze it over the course
of the next hour or so and let you know
who I'm talking about as we unpack this show on
a Friday, as the Colts get set for the Arizona
Cardinals Lucas Oil Stadium on Sunday. Obviously in college football,
a big one, a big one for Indiana taking on
Oregon at Austin Stadium in Eugene. That is a top ten,

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what top seven matchup, I guess if you will, we
will get into that plenty over the course of today.
There actually the Pacers still are I think a topic
of discussion, even though there's you know, you've had one
preseason game. I did talk to somebody earlier today and.

Speaker 2 (01:32):
It's not.

Speaker 1 (01:35):
I want to be clear here, it's not something of major,
major concern, But the injury to TJ McConnell, I think
is one that can be a little bit more nagging
than they initially thought, and I think there might be
some worry that it could be the kind of thing
just based on age and his energy level, that could

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start to recur. You know, like I've always said, and
I know TJ mcconnald, it's not like he's forty years old.
But when your car makes a strange knocking noise at
one hundred and twenty five thousand miles, the mechanics looks
at it differently than if it makes a strange knocking
noise at twenty thousand miles. And again, I'm not saying
TJ McConnell is an overly old guy, but some of

(02:15):
the injuries that are popping up now are those that
you wonder if they're not going to be recurring, And
I think there is an element of that concern is
the wrong word, but they are closely monitoring that with
TJ McConnell. Last night, I was sitting there and I

(02:35):
was sticking to myself when I didn't sleep a lot
last night, so I had a brain dropping. Like it
was around three forty eight this morning, I was staring
at the ceiling and this hit me, and I thought.
Our fantasy football league, the Chicago's Pizza Fantasy Football League,
which is strangely enough, is being led by Nate from
Chicago's Pizza. The best team in the league in terms

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of points, I think is Eddie's team. And the name
of your team, Eddie is a Tyrone's lifting buddy, because
you went through weight conditioning with Tyrone Tracy. Right, yeah,
for a couple of years. Yes, I got news for you. Okay,
it's a pretty cool name because I understand it. I
appreciate it, I respect it. It's pretty neat and it's

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you know, not many people can say that they were
a classmate, teammate, whatever you'd like to say of an
NFL player, right, oh, yeah, And I think he is
a promising player that's represented this city, your high school decater,
Central Purdue, all of it very very well. And last
night I was watching it, I thought to myself, it's
going to be tough for him to get the same

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number of reps. Oh yeah, he is with the New
York Giants last night in Philly, the Giants, and I
don't know that this means it's forever, but the Giants
last night, you get this. I think sometimes in the NFL,
and this is it takes me to Indianapolis. Here as

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I'm watching the Giant's last night with Philadelphia. You have
Jackson Dart who has been handed the keys. You have
Tyron Tracy out and Cam scataboo is in who was
a dynamic running back at Arizona State. I'm not going
to say he's single handedly lifted Arizona State and into
the College Football Playoff, but he kind of single handed

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he lifted Arizona State into the College Football Playoff last year.
He accounted for over twenty three hundred total all purpose
yards for Arizona State. They get into the playoff, they're
taken on Texas, they get down, he throws for a
touchdown in that game. He rushes for two. He accounts
for two hundred and eighty six total yards in that game.
And he's the eighth back selected in the NFL draft,

(04:41):
fourth round, I think one hundred and fifth pick, something
like that. And so you wanted okay, that was a
feel good story that felt good in the moment. And
then Russell Wilson gets out to a slow start for
the Giants. They hand it over to Jackson Dart, they
put in Tyrone, they put in Scout because Tyrone Tracy
is hurt. And here they are leading and salting the

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game away and getting eight to ten yards per rush
with Skataboo and throwing it out of the backfield and
everything else to upset the Philadelphia Eagles. Now, Jake, this
is a sports talk radio show on ninety three five
and one o seven five to the fan in Indianapolis.
Why are you telling me about the Giants and the Eagles? Understood?
And as I've often said, the NFC East, ninety percent

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of their games anyway are just ugh right, But it's
somewhat relevant to Indianapolis. For this reason, we have always
seen these out of nowhere flashing the pan is the
wrong word, but these instant plug and play situations in

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sports where all of a sudden, some player hits the
scene and it's like, oh my gosh, print the T shirts.
Now everybody and their brothers going out and picking this
player up on fantasy football? How did we not know this?

Speaker 2 (06:05):
Everything?

Speaker 1 (06:06):
Everything that they every time his numbers called it works.
You see it in a variety of sports, whether it's
Levon Hernandez in the postseason for the Marlins or Jeremy
Lynn in the regular season for the Knicks. And then
later I think Houston and you know, these these moments
that become these cultural phenoms of wow, how did everyone

(06:30):
sleep on this? And then ultimately after a little bit,
you go, okay, now I kind of see why, like
things have kind of calmed down. Who was the guy
a couple of years ago, Eddie for the Giants? It
was that Tommy DeVito.

Speaker 2 (06:46):
Was that his name?

Speaker 1 (06:47):
Tommy Cutlets that like had you know, a one or
two game flash and everybody's like, oh my gosh, this
this great story and his insanity run. Yeah, exactly the
point I'm trying to make. Talked about it yesterday. I
don't think Daniel Jones is that guy. I think we
have enough body of work to say, Daniel Jones in Indianapolis,

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this is the real deal. This is Indiana Jones, this
is you know, why not Indiana, right, and he is
off to this. I don't think anybody expected this level
of start. And you wonder, then, okay, so is this
like the Jackson Dart situation. Is this Camp Scattaby where

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this is this is a fun, exciting story to get
captivated by. But as soon as it starts to get
exposed a little bit, the doubters and everything that comes
out of the woodwork to line up to shut this
thing down, We're gonna go, Yeah, okay, we bought into
that too early. I don't think that's the case. I

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don't And yesterday people got on me a little bit
because I was saying with Daniel Jones, you wonder if
the Bolts still feel like they have to see more
to know that this is the long term answer, or
do we now know this is in fact the long
term answer? And I think it is I do, But

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this week is another week to find out exactly that.

Speaker 2 (08:16):
Now.

Speaker 1 (08:17):
One of the storylines that we will watch as well
is who they are facing. A guy that's not a
flash in the pan, but I think a pretty good
player in Kyler Murray, but that foot injury. Eddie continues
to be one that it's looking more and more like
dare I say it? Flash in the pan?

Speaker 3 (08:36):
Guy?

Speaker 1 (08:37):
Jacoby Brissett might be the starting quarterback for Arizona this weekend?

Speaker 2 (08:40):
Right? Does he get a tribute video?

Speaker 3 (08:42):
Boy?

Speaker 2 (08:42):
That's a great question, he say, his first start in
the Soil Stadium since he left the Colts?

Speaker 1 (08:47):
Is it really? H I mean?

Speaker 2 (08:51):
Does he get a tribute video?

Speaker 4 (08:53):
No?

Speaker 2 (08:53):
How long was he here? Three years? Four years?

Speaker 1 (08:58):
He was the starter for what? One full season? How
many starts? How many career starts did Jacoby Brissett make
as an Indianapolis cult? What's the over under on what
you're gonna guess here? He was with the Colts for one, two, three,
four seasons? Okay, total number of starts? What's you're over under?
Put it right now before you look it up. What's
your guests? Total number of starts for Jacoby Brisset as

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an Indianapolis cult twenty?

Speaker 2 (09:22):
I was gonna say nineteen. Okay, I'll go eighteen and
a half. You can't do a half. That's not as
either starter. You don't, well, you either score a point
of you don't. There's still half. Nobody scores a half point?
But why so then why, like when you say, what's
a guy going to score to night? Why is this?
Why is it eighteen and a half? Because then Vegas
makes money? Why is it point spread at eighteen and

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a half? That's what I'm makes money. You're not making
money here.

Speaker 1 (09:46):
Well, if we're wagering on this, we're saying, gosh that
Jake just made it. Is it eighteen or nineteen? That's
a tough one. I'll put it eighteen and a half.
What's the number thirty? Did he started?

Speaker 2 (09:58):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (09:59):
Never would I guess that? Yeah, yeah, I forgot that.

Speaker 2 (10:01):
He had that season where Andrew Luck was out recovering
from the shoulder surgery and Scott Sulzene got to start
for the first and then no, I remember that he
started every year after that, and of course he started
the season with the abrupt retirement.

Speaker 1 (10:15):
Oh, I guess you're right. Yeah, yeah, you're right, the
abrupt retirement. I mean, well, they had just traded for him, remember,
hadn't they. That was for the Scott Sulzine start week one. Okay,
Luck was recovering from the shoulder injury. Yeah, in seventeen.
By the way, by the way, should we not have
seen warning flags immediately in the fact that Scott, like

(10:35):
we were told Scott Tolzene was going to be a starter.

Speaker 2 (10:39):
Yeah, I mean that.

Speaker 1 (10:39):
That honestly, if you go back and you look in
the history of this town of sports stories that literally
are like, did that really happen? I mean there are
several of them, right, The Ricky Turner wishbone experiment, the

(11:00):
trade for Andrew bid him in the middle of the night.
The Kerry Collins is going to pick up the pace
where Peyton Manning dropped off, and then the Scott Tolzene
is a starting quarterback in the NFL. Scott Tolzene was

(11:22):
can you look up for me please? Number of career
starts in the NFL for Scott Tolzene, was that his
only start?

Speaker 2 (11:31):
No, it wasn't his only start.

Speaker 1 (11:33):
He had come from I don't remember where he had
come from.

Speaker 2 (11:35):
Green Bay? Was it green Bay? Okay? That was his
one of four career starts. Yeah, I mean, come on, man,
half of them were with the Colts.

Speaker 1 (11:44):
No one thought that was gonna work except for the Colts,
and it just was. I think that we've just blacked
that out right, Oh yeah, totally. We've just completely forgotten
about it totally. Nonetheless, big show lined up today on
a Friday that means high school football. Kyle Nedrip going
to join us a little bit earlier than usual today
because we've got a packed show. Mike de Coursi has

(12:07):
a great article that he wrote about Brayden Smith and
with the upcoming college basketball season from an NIL standpoint
and the different offers that Purdue, it is remarkable. What
Matt pater has done at Purdue is remarkable and impressive
and all of those superlatives that you'd like to come

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up with, because it is so difficult in general to
for continuity in college basketball in twenty twenty five. The
fact that Purdue has a group that has been through
the ringer.

Speaker 2 (12:47):
They've been do you know.

Speaker 1 (12:49):
A national championship game, They've been through disappointment. They continue
to win, but they've not been plucked. The second that
for a lot of programs, if you get to the
national championship game you fall short, then you have people
that are coming in like out of the woodwork theoretically
to come and pluck away your players. It's no different

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than when you win the Super Bowl. The biggest danger
in the NFL, I think are teams that fall in
love with complimentary super Bowl winning players and try to
turn them into mainstay players on their roster. Cato June.

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You know guys like that, like we're going to go
and get this guy that David Thornton. That are good players,
solid players, but we're now going to elevate them because
they were on a super Bowl winning team, so they
were being held back on that roster. We're going to
center around them, and then you find out, oh, actually
they are in fact complementary pieces. But so in today's
transfer portal nil era, constant recycle of roster, what is

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it about Purdue that has allowed Matt Painter to have
this continuity and this stability of roster? Because with all
due respect, and I love mac Arena, and I love Purdue,
and I love the state of Indiana. But if you
are a basketball player playing in mac Arena in West Lafayette,

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where it's twenty five degrees for the vast majority of
your basketball season, and you have an opportunity all of
a sudden, and you're disappointed, you get to the championship game,
your team falls short, and then all of a sudden,
a Florida or a Texas or a UCLA or somewhere
where it's seventy two degrees and they got big boosters

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and big pockets. They come along and they go for
eight hundred grand. We want you to come play here,
Come compete in the SEC, Come compete for a final four.
We're Fletcher Lawyer. You're a really good shooter at Perdue.
But everything was centered around Braden Smith and we know
now that Zach eat he's gone, but we were going
to use you even more and we'll let you going
to play even more off the way. Come here and

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we'll get you twenty a game and eight hundred grand.
There are a lot of players that would buy into that, Eddie.
I'm not saying those offers were made. One would assume
that there were those conversations, but there are a lot
of players that would buy into that. But there is
something going on in a positive way. I'm saying there's
something about Purdue and what's being done there. Like there's

(15:25):
a scene you have or have not seen, Eddie, ted
Lasso Love ted Lasso, Jake, I've seen it, Okay, non
spoiler alert, because anybody who has seen it is going
to know the scene that I'm talking about. And if
you haven't seen it, you need to watch it, but
it's not going to ruin it when I tell this.
There is a scene in ted Lasso, which is about

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a soccer team fictionally, and there is a writer named
I think it's Trent Krem from The Independent. That's right.
He's the beat writer that covers the team, and then
eventually he leaves the beat writing assignment because he decides
that he wants to become a freelance author writing a
book about the season that this team is having. And

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there is a scene in ted Lasso. I think it's
one of the most poignant things in television. It's very subtle.
There's a scene where one of the players for ted Lasso,
personally speaking, is involved in something and inside the locker room,
the team is hearing it out and or Treent Crem

(16:30):
is watching this and assessing, how, you know, what all
is happening in the dynamic of the players, and it
turns into a very positive moment for the player. And
as the team is leaving the locker room, one of
the most brilliant, poignant, subtle things in television that I've
seen in a while. Trent Krem is leaving the locker
room and then stops and turns around and looks at

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this empty locker room and takes his glasses off and
kind of shakes his head and walks out, because that
was his way of saying, I went from somebody who
had to be critical or cynical about everything going on
when I was outside this locker room, and now that
I'm in it, I have to take my glasses off

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just to double check what I'm seeing is real. And
he accepts, and he has the epiphany of what he
is seeing as special and it can't be described, and
even though he's going to try to do so to
the best of his ability. And I think with Purdue
basketball there is an element of that. There is something
going on in West Lafayette with Matt Painter's group that

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is just different and we don't know exactly what it is.
And perhaps Mike Decorsi had his Trent Krem moment where
he saw it and he witnessed something and he thought
this needs to be written about, and so that's what
he's written about. So he's going to join us coming
up on the program today at one o'clock. Breaking news

(18:02):
from Eddie Garrison here in the program.

Speaker 2 (18:04):
After missing the last two days of practice. Kyler Murray
is out at practice today for Arizona.

Speaker 1 (18:11):
Okay, you used the word out there accentuated. He is
off the practice field practicing. Alec Pierce practicing for the
third consecutive day as well. Alec Pierce of course in
the concussion protocol. This was the point a week ago
where we then found out that he was being removed
from the field, right because he did did he practice

(18:32):
Friday last week?

Speaker 2 (18:33):
So he practiced I believe it was Wednesday last week,
and he said he woke up Thursday not feeling well,
so he didn't practice Thursday or Friday last week. I
couldn't have that backwards. I may be selling him shorter today,
but yeah, he's at least this week. The trend that
looks promising for Alec Pierce. So I'll have to pass
that final part of the return to play for the

(18:54):
NFL Concussion Protocol, which would be passing the independent neurologist tests.
So after today, I think that's the last thing Alec
Pierce has to do to clear NFL's concussion protocol. Okay,
So Grover Stewart out of practice today after missing yesterday.

Speaker 1 (19:09):
Taekwon lewis also back out right. He's going through and
he had an illness, yes, and I believe he is
return of the practice field.

Speaker 2 (19:16):
Big one.

Speaker 1 (19:17):
As I mentioned, coming up on Saturday between Indiana and Oregon,
Dave Reps and Big ten Network going to join us
on the show today. We can talk not only about
that but just the Big Ten in general. But it
is it is still almost surreal to have Indiana and
the thing about Indiana, and this is true of the Colts.
I mean, there are so many parallels with the Colts
in different stories within sports right now. But in terms

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of the Indiana football season and Kurt Signetti, the one
thing that I keep going back to is it's not
there's just something about it where you keep waiting for this,
like we are all when it comes to Indiana football,
we're all Trent krem right, like we're all looking at

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it like I don't know what There's just something going
on here? What is it that's special about this? And
in curtin Signette's case, I think it's two things. I
think number one, he brought in really good players a
year ago. Number Two, he has a confidence about him
that is carried over to his football team. But number three,
they just don't make mistakes, and more often than not

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they don't. Now, last year in the Ohio State game,
made some mistakes, right, seem to learn from that. If
you look at the Iowa game, they did make mistakes,
and then they stayed the course and they put Iowa
back in position where they check made at Iowa, they
got the ball back and then they go on to
win the game. Right, and so the all of it

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for Indiana. With each game you look at it and
you're like, Okay, they got out to a nice start
here and they're up seven to three, and then you
come back and you're like, okay, now this is good.
They were up seven to three and now they're up
ten to three. Now they're up seventeen to six, and
they just compounded from there. They just don't let up
and they don't make errors. Now Oregon, Oregon to me

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looks like a team that offensively in particular, can play
at a very fast pace, that can score that is
difficult to keep down. But Eddie is the Oregon matchup
in anticipation, I'm not gonna say tempered at all, but
if Indiana were to go in and win that game,
that would be an incredible and an awesome win, but

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is it devalued at all based on the fact that
Oregon went in went into overtime one and Happy Value
at Penn State and you thought that was impressive, and
then Penn State we found out actually is Penn State
tries to tell us this every year every year when
you go in to Happy Valley and you have a
team that is ranked in the top five or the

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top ten, and you're like, this looks like a team
that is a contender. This looks like a team that
is going to push every one of the limit. This
looks like a team that is a playoff can tension
national title team. And then Penn State says, we are
Penn State, and you're like, that's right, I forgot thank
you for reminding me. You are the team every year
that looks really good until it matters and then all

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of a sudden you wilt away and then you turn
around and you lose to Minnesota or you go to
UCLA and get beat by hapless Ucla. Does that diminish
at all if Indiana is to win the accomplishment of
winning at Oregon, No.

Speaker 2 (22:26):
It doesn't diminish it at all, Jake, I mean we
talked about this yesterday with just the aspect of like
the Chiefs maybe looking past Jacksonville and we're talking about them,
we're all fair, just like you don't see that the
pro level, certainly at the college level, like perhaps Penn
State just thought they could walk in there and just
easily cruise past the UCLA team that hadn't led in

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any game up until that point, and they just fired
their offensive coordinator earlier in the week, They're dealing with
an interim head coach, like it's a total mess with
the Bruins, and they probably thought they could just go
in there and escape with a win and bit him
in the butt and now you just have to go
on the road, take care of business and try to
pull off an upset. Because Oregon is one of the
best teams in college football point.

Speaker 1 (23:08):
I mean, they're great, no question. But again, the hope
I think for Indiana fans in particular, was that you
would go in that Oregon and that Penn State would
hold serve and their only loss would be to Oregon.
Like the Indiana would go and beat Oregon. Then you
go to Penn State, you also beat Penn State, and
now you are really looking good. Now I think they

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can still. My point being I think if Indiana goes
in and plays well in Oregon but doesn't win, and
then goes in and plays well at Penn State and
doesn't win, that would have still allowed them to get in.
I think now the Penn State is going to diminish
such that that's going to be one where if you
don't win at Oregon, then you have to win at

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Penn State. I don't know that you would have had
to have won both going into it, but something we'll
talk about with Dave Repsen coming to hell.

Speaker 2 (23:57):
No Name lost to Northern Illinois last year.

Speaker 1 (24:00):
Understood, but then they ran the table. But then they
ran the table all the way through.

Speaker 5 (24:02):
I know.

Speaker 2 (24:03):
But I'm saying, you're comparing like when you compare it
in that regard, it's like, well, Notre Dame had the
worst loss in college football playoff history, they had one
of the worst losses in all of college football last year,
and they still made the playoff.

Speaker 1 (24:14):
Understood, But it was also when they lost and then
what they did since then, Right, That's how they All
I'm saying is if you are Indiana still and you
are looking at the possibility of not one, but two losses.
You want to make sure that everything is bolstered up
a little bit. I just I think given the drugs,

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Indiana would rather Penn State not have gone and peed
down their leg in UCLA, and and that Penn State
would have been ranked still like a top ten team.
When you're going in there, I think they're gonna beat
Penn State regardless, and then it's a moot point. Kyle
Nettingripp joins us on the other side, high school football
Friday night. We'll find out the big matchups. We'll talk
to him next high school football man. It is hard

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to believe you just served Terry Stacey talking about it.
We finally are starting to get some of that autumn
air and the high school football season. I'm telling you,
every year, once it kicks off, it just flies past
and you start getting a real feel for who are
the pretenders, who are the contenders. Kyle Nettrip joins us
now from the Indianapolis Star. Of course, he covered all
of the high school sports for them and joins us

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to preview what he is going to be getting into tonight. Kyle,
the big game tonight you have your eye on would
be witch.

Speaker 6 (25:27):
I'll be down at Lawrence North and Center Grove tonight,
seeing the Trojans at home against Lawrence North team I
actually saw last week play really well, really really explosive,
fast offensive team, and I think that should be a
fun game. Lan had lost to them is several years
in a row until last year, so kind they were
able to break through against Center Grove and see if

(25:49):
they can do it again. The other game I would say,
of you know, probably equal interest would be Carmel and
Warren Central. You know, after seeing Warren Central last week,
really was impressed with them offensively scored forty two points
in the first half against l N and then you know,
weren't able to stop Ellen in the second half. But
I think a team that you know is just going

(26:10):
to get better and better. A lot of those guys
coming back next year as well, so it seemed to
be on the right track there. Of course, Carmel we've
talked about a lot with what they've done this year,
so I think that'll be a really interesting game as well.
You know, some of the others, I would say, probably
Whiteland and Plainfield I think will be a good one.

(26:33):
Let's see stared at Try West. Both those teams six
and one fishers in Westfield, both those teams five and two.
So there's there's several that have definitely intrigued tonight in
week eight.

Speaker 1 (26:45):
You know when you Kyle look at a week and
I think it was a week ago, right when Center
Grove was with Cathedral. Was that last Friday?

Speaker 3 (26:51):
Yeah, yeah, that was last Friday.

Speaker 1 (26:53):
You know that obviously. Did we learn more in that
game about in Cathedral? We've talked about this each year. Cathedral,
we'll drop a few early because they really test themselves
and then they seem to kind of right the ship
and go through. Did we learn more last week about
Cathedral or Center Grove?

Speaker 6 (27:10):
Well, I probably Cathedral, I would say, just because you know,
they were defensively, they're they always seem to play better
as the year goes along. Center Grove was dealing with
some a lot of injuries unfortunately, and it's all not all,
but a lot of them at the same position. At
running back. You know Ricky Laying again, they he was
a sophomore who had been playing really well. He went
out last week. So it's been kind of a rotating

(27:32):
door at running back for Center Grove. And that's not
to say you know, Cathedral didn't play really well. They did,
I think, you know, I think they're going to be
a handful. I can't wait to see what. You know,
the sexual draw is going to come out and we'll
find out when you know, Cathedral could potentially play a
new pal. You know, that'll be one of the more
interesting things Sunday when the draw comes out.

Speaker 3 (27:52):
But but yeah, I.

Speaker 6 (27:53):
Mean Center Grove I think is still going to be fine.
They they you know, they just statistically actually played pretty
well Friday, but just could not you know, you know,
they're down that game eighteen to nothing at one point,
so just hard to overcome. You know, they had a
lot of sacks, a lot of things that just come
with negative against them, and a lot of.

Speaker 3 (28:11):
That's because of Cathedral.

Speaker 6 (28:13):
But man, it's just been you know, when you can't
keep your your rotating door of running backs healthy, and
they lost Drake mcclergy, who was their top receiver. So
it's just been kind of a you know, unfortunately, kind
of an injury plague season that a lot of the
same position. But I still think, you know, they still have,
you know, some good players obviously on that offensive side
of the ball and the defense it's really veteran and good.

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So I think they're still going to be a big
problem as a tournament moves forward. But honestly, watching that
score the other night, I'm like, man, Cathedral, you know,
they may have something for New pal and we'll see.
I mean that that'll be I think the game of
the year in five A when that game does happen.
And you know, but I think I think, to me,
that said a lot about Cathedral to win that game.

Speaker 2 (28:57):
Who's the biggest surprise of the year.

Speaker 6 (29:02):
I mean probably, I mean from a standpoint of what
they did last year, probably Carmel.

Speaker 2 (29:06):
Uh legit, aren't they? Yeah?

Speaker 6 (29:09):
I mean, I I put this in my Monday column,
but I'm not sure you know they in all credit
to Brownsburg is number one defending champ have done nothing
to lose that spot. But I mean the Carmel Brownsburg game,
I don't know who you'd pick. I mean, they, I
think they're that good, you know, and that could end
up being the state championship game, but you know, who knows.

Speaker 3 (29:30):
We're a long way from that point.

Speaker 6 (29:31):
But but just to do what they've done this year,
and if they close out and you know, win these
next two weeks and finish eight and one. They still
have Warren Tonight, like I said, and Lawrence Central, who's
kind of a sleeper good team next week.

Speaker 2 (29:44):
Uh.

Speaker 6 (29:44):
But if they finish eight and one and their only
losses to Louisville Trinity, I mean, who would have saw
that coming out?

Speaker 3 (29:49):
I don't know if anybody you know would have thought that.
Now they don't play.

Speaker 6 (29:53):
You know, there's some teams that you know, they'll go
back into the mixed schedule next year and they'll play,
you know, teams like Center Grove again, which they did
and play this year, and you know Lawrence North, which
they didn't play this year. So the schedule will be
different next year. But still to go through in B
six and one and look really good in accumulating that
record is to me, that's been a little bit of

(30:15):
a surprise. And I think even you know Kevin, right,
I don't think it would be surprised necessarily, but I
remember talking to him before the season. He didn't know
for sure how good this team would be. So I think,
to me, that's kind of been the one of the
big stories of the season so far.

Speaker 1 (30:29):
I just I mean, look, I've known Kevin a long time,
so maybe I'm biased here, but when you look at
the resources at Carmel combined with the enrollment of Carmel
and then the fact that this guy's won everywhere he's gone, essentially,
it's one of those Kyle, is it not, where you
almost look back and go, how did we not see
that that was going to happen?

Speaker 2 (30:50):
Right?

Speaker 6 (30:51):
Yeah, for sure, And I feel kind of you know,
even calling Carmel's surprise sounds stupid on the surface, but
and I definitely thought he would get it going there
and looking honestly, looking at what they you know, the
talent that they had coming back, you know, it did
look promising. But I'd be lying if I if I
said I expected this. And even the first couple of

(31:11):
weeks of the season when they played Fishers in Westfield,
you know, those are really good teams that they handled easily.
Both those teams are ranked in the top ten, and
you know have gone on to have really good seasons.
And I think Westfield Willy, you know, if those teams
play again, I think that game will be closer. I
really like the job Josh Miracle does there at Westfield,

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and I think they're a team that's kind of trending
in the right direction since that loss, so you know,
we'll see if in the rematch I think would be
a better game. But but yeah, I mean to the
extent of, you know, I think we all knew is
all right, well, Kevin Wright's going to get it going there.

Speaker 3 (31:47):
But to say I thought it would be this quickly.

Speaker 6 (31:50):
You know that that would probably be you know, overstating it.
So I had these these Obviously it's really clicked there
and it's worked right away.

Speaker 1 (31:58):
Kyle, When will we get into Kyle Nenrip is my
guest from the Indianapolstar. He's on the Joba House Peel
and poor guest line, when will we get into Kyle
high school basketball? And some of your previews? And I
know that sounds crazy, but I mean we're in mid
October already, right and before we know it, we're gonna
start talking about tournaments and things like that.

Speaker 6 (32:19):
No, yeah, for sure, we'll have actually was getting our
photo shoots set just yesterday, so getting all that lined
up for the next there'll be in a couple of
weeks and then you know, we'll get right into it
basically once you know, once November hits. I can't remember
the exact practice started practice actual practice states.

Speaker 3 (32:38):
But that that's probably about you know what.

Speaker 6 (32:41):
Three weeks three, a little more than three weeks out,
So yeah, it's not it's not far away. November is
a crazy month where you know, the crossover of football
and basketball can drive you crazy basically up through Thanksgiving weekend.
But but yeah, it'll be you know, we'll have a
lot of coverage coming and I look forward to it
every year. I kind of you know, there's always these

(33:04):
football stories I want to make sure I get to
as well. So it's it's a little bit of a
juggling act, but yeah, it's it's it's coming right around
the corner for sure. And you know, by by early October,
it's definitely something that's on my radar, trying to get
things planned and lined up, uh for our for our season.

Speaker 1 (33:20):
You know, you had your article which was awesome on
just like some of the lost and the old and
the historic gems of Indiana in that same capacity, give
me your best, Give me your best two to three.
Maybe not even by size and volume and like fandom, tailgate,
et cetera, but maybe just neighborhood or whatever it might be.

(33:42):
Give me your two to three best high school football
experiences in Central.

Speaker 3 (33:46):
Indiana experience as far as stadiums.

Speaker 2 (33:49):
Go, all of it.

Speaker 1 (33:50):
Yeah, all things and all things considered. So Friday night lights,
it calls you up and they say, look, we're gonna
we're doing a documentary on high school football in Indiana,
and we want one that just shows a big stadium aerial,
and then we want another one that just shows great
atmosphere and neighborhood loyalty, et cetera.

Speaker 6 (34:09):
Yeah, man, that's a that's a great question, I would say. Man,
I was, Yeah, I've been to some good ones. One
of my favorite experiences, and they don't play games there anymore.
It was at Arlington when and this is probably not
a great memory for Center Grove people who thought the
game should have been played elsewhere. But I think it
was twenty twenty or twenty one when they played that

(34:31):
Mud Bowl game and the just the you know, the
field was just complete mess and the tailgate, you know,
the tailgateing Cathedral was doing, and and Center Grove people
it just felt like such a huge.

Speaker 3 (34:43):
Huge game.

Speaker 6 (34:44):
And I think even I don't know if this is
right or not, but there might have been a Sunday
night you know they Sunday night they show those games
on NBC, and I don't know if that was the
game that they showed, but I remember I'm showing one
of those one of those games Cathedral played. But you know,
that's one that always Unfortunately, you know, Arlington's not hosting
games anymore there, and it wasn't even necessarily the place

(35:07):
it was, but just the mud situation and the two
teams playing against each other made that one super memorable,
you know, And I ended up I cover a lot
of larger school games, so you may not have the
small town atmosphere, but I think I always think Center
Grove does a great job. I mean that always feels
like a big time atmosphere. You know Brownsburg now, I

(35:27):
would say, you know, having been there one game this year,
was that feels like a big time you know John
Hard and Brownsburg there, he compared it to kind of
a Texas you know experience. Now I can't, I can't
say I've been to games in Texas, but it certainly
has that big, big game atmosphere to it now. But
you know, those are a couple that come to mind.

(35:49):
I would say there was a game I covered, Try
West and Gibson Southern. It was more about the Gibson
Southern people being there. But man, they they really showed
out and they were they had the campers and the
you know, the the hot dogs and hamburgers grilled out there.
That that was a really cool atmosphere. But yeah, that's
a good That's I'd have to go through my all

(36:11):
my experiences and maybe narrow that down. That's a that's
a good story idea.

Speaker 1 (36:15):
I mean, it's got some it's just you know, they're
even going so far as and I'm not even sure
to your point, like with Arlington if they play still
games where I'm about to mention, but the old Indianapolis
How High School, like the stadium in the back was
kind of nestled like in this region, you know what
I mean, Like it's cool like there's and there are

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so many of them like that, right.

Speaker 6 (36:39):
Yeah, definitely, Yeah, that's a good one. You know, I've
covered games that have it's really it's in the city,
but then it feels like you're in a little town
there when it's uh, you're kind of back in the
back in the trees, you know, there there are a
lot I mean, yeah, I'd have to kind of go
through and think about it. I did cover a game
up a Knox one time that was kind of a different,
you know, definitely different atmosphere. Yeah, the small town ones

(37:02):
are cool. I mean I've covered a lot of those too,
but sometimes those are the best. You know, New pal
Has are really you know, they have a good you know,
when it's playoff time and they're hosting that, it feels
like a really big time atmosphere. The different thing about
football is the actual stadiums a lot of times aren't
as unique as you might see in basketball, but the
overall experiences can be certainly a memories.

Speaker 1 (37:26):
Usually like whatever's around this, you know, it's usually just
a couple of bleachers, right, but it's whatever's around the
stadium that makes it cool. Tonight, by the way, the
other school that we always mentioned, Crystal House, will be
taken on per New Englewood. That is a seven o'clock
start as well. Kyle, tell me again which game you
will be in attendance.

Speaker 6 (37:43):
I'll be down at Center Grove tonight for Lawrence North.
It should be two top ten teams and should be
a really good game. Pat Mallory used to coach for
Eric More at Center growth, So those guys are really close,
and you know it should be it should be a
fun game, all right.

Speaker 1 (37:59):
We will look over to it and we will see
all of the coverage, of course in the Indianapolis Star.
Pleasure as always, Kyle, you bet, thanks, Jake, Kyle neednrup
joining us on the Java House Peel and poor guest
line we come back. We'll get you back up to
speed on who's and and who's out for the Colts
and the Cardinals, and Mike de Corsi joins us just
fifteen from now. By the way, I do feel compelled

(38:21):
to tell everybody this when when you see the website,
the station website that goes out with all of our
score predictions and things like that, those they ask for
us that before we have any idea who's playing.

Speaker 2 (38:34):
Right, they's put out in the tweet as well. Jake,
Don't worry. They did put that disclaimer, don't they.

Speaker 1 (38:40):
Yeah, yeah, you know that's the I do that pick
up I told you about with my buddies. And you
have to have the problem with that is you have
to on the website that we do that on. You
have to have them all in before the Thursday night game. Kicks,
I mean, there are like seventy percent of the games

(39:01):
on Sunday. You're like, I have no idea who's starting
for half of these teams right, kind of like Baltimore.

Speaker 2 (39:05):
I mean, you got Lamar Jackson and like half a
dozen other players out.

Speaker 1 (39:09):
And it's that is a huge difference within those games.
You just turned Kansas. We have tickets to give away
for Kansas. Let's get you real quick caught up on
the Colts and the Cardinals. Kyler Murray if you are
just joining us on the program. Kyle Murray is practicing
now for the Arizona Cardinals. He has not practiced this week.
He's got a boo boo on his foot, but he

(39:30):
is practicing today. One would assume that may mean that
he is available for Arizona on Sunday. If he is
not able to go, it will be Jacoby.

Speaker 2 (39:38):
Brissett who said to Jake that they'll evaluate Kyler Murray
and see how it feels today and then after the
flight tomorrow to Indianapolis, and that will ultimately decide if
he can suit up or not against the Colts Sunday.

Speaker 1 (39:51):
As for the Colts, Alec Pierce is practicing and he
is I guess you would say trending in the right
direction to come out of concussion protocol, but that is
one that still they will assess after the practice. Grover
Stewart back on the practice field. He has a bicep injury.
Taekwon Lewis did not practice yesterday due to an illness,
but he and Braden Smith, both who did not practice,

(40:12):
I think are expected to be able to go this weekend.
Now let's get back to the Kansas tickets, Eddie. This
is taking place when tonight. How about that tonight? Okay,
so tonight now.

Speaker 2 (40:26):
The everwise amphitheater.

Speaker 1 (40:27):
So give me the protocol in terms of how one
picks up said tickets and how one wins said tickets.

Speaker 2 (40:36):
Well, they have to call in to the station first three, one, seven, two, nine, ten, seventy,
and then we'll determine how we want to give away
said tickets. These tickets will be emailed to you, so
you have to be on the lookout checking your emails.
Specifically the spam and I'm not talking about the can
of food either.

Speaker 1 (40:51):
I do like the spam can of food as we
talked about earlier this week. It's been a long time
since I've had spam. Right, there's your dinner idea for whenever.
Shannon Lee, she's in Denver right now. By the way,
tell me if tell me if I should be offended
by this?

Speaker 2 (41:07):
You ready? Okay?

Speaker 1 (41:09):
You let me know if I should be offended by this.
So Shannon is already in Denver, it's her hometown. We're
going to see McCartney tomorrow night. And my flight lands
tonight at ten o'clock Denver time. And Shannon said, do
you mind if if you get an uber?

Speaker 3 (41:25):
Like?

Speaker 2 (41:25):
Wait? What her?

Speaker 1 (41:27):
She has two brothers, two nephews whatever that live there,
and like, should I be offended by that? I get it.
It's ten o'clock at night and the Denver Airport is
literally like forty five minutes from Denver. But I'm curious
if I should be offended. I've been like, I'm a
professional airport picker. Upper right, what do you think any

(41:48):
should should I be a it's a professional uber?

Speaker 2 (41:50):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (41:52):
So then it's like, oh, by the way, like I'm
gonna just just go ahead and get an uber.

Speaker 2 (41:56):
I'll pay for it. What am I am?

Speaker 1 (41:59):
I off bay here? Or is that like the way
we are in twenty twenty five? I guess that's the
way we are in twenty twenty five. You want to
do one of our favorite Oh my goodness, Jake, I
don't want to say our favorite. It's not our favorite.
It's the kids. They love this game. We've done a
lot of research on get to Know Your Listener, and
kids do, in fact love it.

Speaker 2 (42:14):
I believe it's Rod. Is that correct?

Speaker 3 (42:16):
Rod?

Speaker 1 (42:17):
At two thir nine, ten seventy for a little get
to know your listener?

Speaker 2 (42:19):
How are you? Rod?

Speaker 1 (42:22):
Rod apparently didn't didn't like us?

Speaker 2 (42:24):
Wow?

Speaker 1 (42:25):
Rod is apparently like Shannon picking me up at the airport,
nowhere to be found?

Speaker 2 (42:30):
Right? Should I be offended by that? She's with our family,
rights with you all the time.

Speaker 1 (42:39):
Yeah, but it's ten o'clock at night, Like, what are
they doing at ten? I mean she's like, we're going
to dinner. I'm okay at seven?

Speaker 2 (42:47):
What are you landing? Ten o'clock Denver time?

Speaker 1 (42:50):
Yeh, Mountain time, Yes, midnight our time.

Speaker 2 (42:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (42:54):
I don't want to get a newber, you know. I
thought it'd be fun to have her pick me up
and show me around.

Speaker 2 (43:00):
Do we have a winner?

Speaker 1 (43:00):
Two two nine ten seventy is the telephone number if
you would like to see Kansas. This is for tonight.

Speaker 2 (43:05):
Do we just want to do this blind? This show?
This is taking place.

Speaker 1 (43:08):
Where Eddie Everwise Amphitheater, Everywise Ampitheater Downtown, and it is
going to be a perfect night, a perfect night downtown.
It'll be the weather's going to be great. That venue,
especially since they have renovated it and upgraded it is
fantastic and it will be an awesome show. But for tonight,
So you've got to be able to be available for

(43:29):
the show tonight. Two three, nine, ten seventy is the
telephone number we are doing. What number callers on this.
I'm just gonna take those two that we got on
hold right now. I don't know their names yet, okay,
but we have two pairs to give a wing. Those
only two people say.

Speaker 2 (43:44):
Two pairs or two pairs? Two pairs.

Speaker 1 (43:47):
Course is with the Sporting News. He has an interesting
article about pretty basketball, Braden Smith, Matt Painter and the
key to success. We will talk with him, maybe even
ask him about his Steelers, and we will get the
rest of you set up for Kansas next. Kenny Moore
is out for Sunday, so no Kenny Moore for the

(44:08):
Colt says that attrition continues within their defensive backfield. That
is the one thing that has been consistent for the
Colts so far among others in this season, is the
fact that they have just been hit with injuries in
that area of their roster. Speaking of consistency, it is
that and more that has carried Purdue basketball for the

(44:31):
better part of the Matt Paynter tenure. Mike de Corsi is,
of course a friend of the show, joins us now
on the Java House, Peel and Poor Guest line. He
has an article on the Sporting News produced Braiden Smith
can become the all time NCAA Assists Champion, but he
wants a different NCAA title.

Speaker 2 (44:49):
Mike.

Speaker 1 (44:49):
It is a really good piece about Braiden Smith, and
I wanted to bring you on to discuss this, and
you could certainly tell me that I'm wrong here, I think,
and I don't know how long it sustains. But what
Purdue has been able to do in terms of keeping
continuity and chemistry from one year to the next of

(45:12):
roster for the most part and the trains for nil
Era is truly, I think, almost special. Now, am I
overstating that?

Speaker 3 (45:21):
No, I don't think at all.

Speaker 4 (45:22):
I think that what's interesting is that Matt talked about
this yesterday in his address at Big Ten Media Day,
and he talked about how there is a common narrative
I guess you'd call it. That's for me narrative now
has been defined as something that a lot of people
believe that isn't really one hundred percent true. And the

(45:46):
narrative about Purdue is that they don't lose transfers on
the way out, like that the door only swings one way.
And he says that's not true. He says, but we
don't lose starters. And I thought that was a really
interesting concept. I mean, not far from then from where
he was sitting when he was talking about that, Chad
Baker Mazara was sitting over there representing USC and he

(46:10):
was in the final four year ago with Auburn. That
that wouldn't happen at Purdue hasn't happened. I mean, they
did lose players off of last season's team, and probably
understandably so. They had a couple of very capable, promising
players that just couldn't get the run that they thought

(46:33):
they were capable of, that they might have been capable of,
and if you look at.

Speaker 3 (46:40):
In last year's situation. I mean, you saw.

Speaker 4 (46:44):
Miles Colvin average eighteen minutes a game, cam Heidi averaged twenty.
And the limitation on their time wasn't totally.

Speaker 3 (46:55):
On them. It wasn't totally on Matt.

Speaker 4 (46:58):
It's just the way this line work best.

Speaker 3 (47:01):
Those guys didn't quite fit in.

Speaker 4 (47:03):
Neither of them took a huge step forward to either
take down Fletcher Lawyer or perhaps at least shove their
way onto the same court, and so they went off
searching for more playing time. But that they don't. This
team now, even with the loss of two very capable,
promising wings, looks demonstrably better entering the twenty sixth season.

Speaker 1 (47:28):
You know, I remember a couple of years ago, Mike,
and I know that this is not sustainable what I'm
about to say, But I've told the story before, and
I'm not going to say the name of the player.
But several years ago I was up at a Purdue
practice and I was talking to not Matt Painter, but
members of the staff about a player that I was
surprised wasn't in the mix with Purdue in the recruiting process.

(47:53):
And they said, well, paint was pretty clear about the
fact that he felt that was a kid that would
have been a handout kid, you know, wanting this was
pre inil, right, so just a player that was a
little too individualized of need. And I was impressed by
that because sometimes talent is impossible to just bypass on

(48:16):
if you don't believe that, like the total mold of
character is there of what you need. The reason I
bring that up is because is it possible that part
of why we're seeing this continuity at Purdue is because
they have this vetting system of what works for their
fabric more so than other programs might do.

Speaker 3 (48:35):
Not just possible.

Speaker 4 (48:36):
It's on the record, fact, Jake, I think it was
twenty fourteen. I'm pretty sure that's the year again, back
to Big Ten media days when they did them a
little differently and every coach would come into to the
room in the morning and give his fifteen minutes or

(48:56):
so and then take questions whatever it was. And I
remember this as well as just about anything in covering
college basketball.

Speaker 3 (49:04):
Matt came in.

Speaker 4 (49:05):
They were coming off a losing season. I think they'd
finished last or close to last in the Big Ten
that year, which was obviously coming from the humble era,
as those of us who are friends with Robbie like
to call it.

Speaker 3 (49:19):
That.

Speaker 4 (49:19):
Coming off that and going toward the bottom of the
league was really jarring. And Matt got up there at
Big ten Media Day and said that it was on
him that from that point on he was going to
recruit not talent necessarily, not that the guys he's bringing
in aren't talented, but not specifically and only talent, but

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he was going to recruit Purdue talent, so to speak.
So he was going to bring in guys that were
going to fit into what they did, who were going
to be happy with how they were coached when they
didn't play, when they did play what they If they
were told what they need need to do to get
better to play, than they would be amenable to that.

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And from that point on they have been an NCAA
tournament team. They have been on multiple occasions Final four contenders,
and in twenty twenty three and probably again this year,
they were National Championship contenders.

Speaker 1 (50:20):
Which do you think, Mike Matt Painter, These are both
skills he is very good at. Okay, so don't think
that I'm trying to But if you had to pick
the thing that he does better than his peers, which
more so is does he stand out in a seeing

(50:41):
talent that perhaps other schools don't see, or and therefore
knowing that they are going to be a piece to
the puzzle, or b making and coming up with the
proper game plans. Once he has the talent assembled and
coming up with ways to win with the roster, he's
able to accumulate.

Speaker 4 (51:01):
I'm going to say the former, because it's more important.
Getting players who were talented and team oriented and that
will respond to you is more important than being the smartest,
best strategist. I don't think that. I mean, I don't
think I'm insulting him to say that. Mike Krzyzewsky, while

(51:25):
the greatest college coach in history, was not the greatest
strategist in history.

Speaker 3 (51:30):
Wasn't bad at it. Don't get me wrong, but it wasn't.

Speaker 4 (51:33):
His superpower was getting talented players to play, as he
describes it, like a fist five fingers that if you
slap somebody, it doesn't hurt as much as if you
punch him, so to speak.

Speaker 3 (51:46):
And that was his superpower as a coach.

Speaker 4 (51:49):
He got them to play together and to communicate on
the floor so that they so that they didn't necessarily need.

Speaker 3 (51:54):
Him as much.

Speaker 4 (51:55):
And so, you know, yeah, Bobby Hurley and Grant Hill
out there, as long as they're doing what they've been
coached to do, you know, got to call a lot
of plays.

Speaker 3 (52:03):
And the great example that I looked back.

Speaker 4 (52:06):
At this story when I was working on the on
the Braden article because I spoke to Bobby Hurley was
right there in Indianapolis. The three pointer he made with
two and change left against UNLV when his team was
down five and looked like they might be out of it.
Now they're down two, because he made the decision on

(52:27):
his own to take it.

Speaker 3 (52:27):
He didn't need Mike.

Speaker 4 (52:29):
He was he knew what he knew, what he'd learned
from his dad, he knew what he'd learned from from
from Mike, and he saw a defensive change and he said,
there's an opening here for me to take a shot.

Speaker 3 (52:39):
I'm going to.

Speaker 4 (52:39):
Shoot it and make it, and he did and they
ended up winning that game in one of the great
Final Four upsets ever. So that's that's really the more
important element of it. He is an excellent strategist, Matt.
He is really good at finding offenses that work for
the players that he has, but the most important thing
is getting really good players to execute strategies.

Speaker 1 (53:01):
Mike de COURSEI is our guest. Of course, he is
on the Java House Peel Important Guest linesporting news dot Com,
where you can read his work. Mike, it seems like,
you know, college basketball is college football like I love.
As a matter of fact, I'm not certain that I
don't now love college football even more so or as
much as the NFL. It's not a slight on the NFL.

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I mean, I just really love college football and college
basketball I've always loved and then when people started talking
about tournament tournament expansion, and there was always questions, you know,
with the portal and free agency, if you will, I
think there were people that thought it was doomsday and
college basketball was done as we know it. Where do
we stand? Like once the dust settles on all of this, I'm.

Speaker 4 (53:45):
Really worried about what will happen if they expand the
NCAA tournament. A lot of people, Oh, you're going to
ruin the tournament.

Speaker 3 (53:53):
No you're not.

Speaker 4 (53:53):
I mean, if if you're one of those people, and
there are a lot of them out there, if you
if you say to somebody would you refer sixty eight
or seventy two or seventy six? I did at Twitter
pol exactly that several months ago. The people who answer
sixty sixty eight often will then said, we really only.

Speaker 3 (54:12):
Need sixty four.

Speaker 4 (54:14):
Those people will always turn on the tournament at noon
on Thursday. They will not ever watch whatever you put
unless it's their team. Indiana on some occasions has been
in those games Carolina last year. Unless it's their team.
They're not turning on the television on Tuesday or Wednesday.
They're turning it on when the sixty four goes up.

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So you're not going to damage the tournament. What you're
going to damage is the college basketball regular season, which
a large part of the media, of very loud voices
in the media that have huge platforms already tell you
it doesn't matter. Oh, it's a one month sport. You
hear it all the time, not in Indiana very often

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unless you're turning on somebody national, But that's what they say.
And if you go to putting seventy six teams in
the field, there's a very then we start to take
the boat toward toward them being right.

Speaker 3 (55:10):
And I don't want that.

Speaker 4 (55:12):
I love the college basketball regular season. It's entertaining, it's invigorating,
and there is great suspense. Think about, especially the people
who are listening to me now, Think about what it
was like in the last two weeks of last season
when Ohio State, Nebraska, and Indiana all had a chance
to get in and all happened to be playing in

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like a triangular thing. They one played one, one played
the other, then they played and it all went around
in a circle or a triangle or whatever, and it
was really something. And that will be gone like that
will be that sort of triangle will be contested among
teams that aren't very good at all, I mean at all.

Speaker 3 (55:55):
There's always a bubble.

Speaker 4 (55:57):
But when you get that bubble to be teams that
really aren't any good. I mean, Indiana was pretty good
last year, just not good enough. Nebraska saying Ohio State same.
They all had efficiencies. They almost got there, and they
probably you know, you could make the case for any
of them, Nebraska not after they missed a Big Ten tournament.
If you could make a case for Ohio State or

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Indiana that they could have.

Speaker 3 (56:19):
Been, but they probably didn't deserve it. And that's what
we want.

Speaker 4 (56:23):
We want to like the way I describe it is
like should a Deans should it like a B minus
average be a Deans list student, just to make everybody
feel better.

Speaker 1 (56:31):
Well, and my thing is this, Mike, and tell me
if you agree with this. If the NCAA tournament wants
to expand you know, the seventy two, seventy four cities
at whatever, okay, fine, But I would hope that in
doing so, it is to allow the twenty eight and
three College of Charleston that got upset in the first

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round of their conference tournament to still give them an
at large. If we're doing this in order to include
more seventeen and sixteen Minnesota's, okay, that doesn't do.

Speaker 3 (57:03):
Anything to happen. That's what's going to happen.

Speaker 4 (57:06):
Because I know the science of the bracket. I mean,
I'm not saying I've perfected it, but I've been doing
this for Fox Sports now for six years. We only
had a tournament in five but for six years, and
some of my brackets have scored very high.

Speaker 3 (57:23):
So I have a good idea of what is next.

Speaker 4 (57:26):
And I'm not saying that there aren't there aren't a
team or here, here or there that we'll be able
to get in that wouldn't have under the old formula.
But if you really, like I was at Atlantic ten
Media Day, they had it here in Pittsburgh. It's the
fiftieth anniversary of the Atlantic ten at fiftieth anniversary season,
so this is where the league began, so they brought.

Speaker 3 (57:46):
Media day here.

Speaker 4 (57:47):
They're bringing the tournament here in March, and there's a
lot of consternation there. But the problem that they have
isn't that they're not being evaluated properly.

Speaker 3 (57:57):
In the end.

Speaker 4 (57:57):
The problem that they have is that they're not able
to schedule in the way that would be reasonable, especially
with the advent of this player's era of stuff in Vegas,
and it's become even harder for them to get on
a neutral floor in Maui or the Bahamas or Charleston,
South Carolina or wherever with teams at the high major level,

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and so it becomes sort of exclusionary on that sense.
But they're not going to get in now because they
change the formula. At the end, it's just going to
be more teams from the Big ten, SEC ACC Big twelve,
And I mean even Tony Patiti said yesterday that the
reason that the league supports it. The Big Ten supports it.

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Is that with the size of the league, there is
concern about whether or not there are enough bids available
for the expanded major conferences. I mean, from that standpoint,
you got fourteen out of sixteen in the SEC last year.
If you're good enough, they're going to put you in.
It's that simple. And the ACC hasn't been good enough.

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They talk a good game on media Day in the ACC,
but then they don't back it up in non conference play.
The SEC tore through non conference play last year and
got all the bids they deserved. If the Big Ten
does that this year, and there's a good chance that's
going to happen, they'll get all the bids they deserve.

Speaker 1 (59:22):
Mike, do we have any idea yet, Mike de COURSI
is my guest from Sporting News.

Speaker 2 (59:27):
You know, I know this.

Speaker 1 (59:29):
I know Indiana just played obviously, Darren Devrees took his
guys down, played some exhibition games, and by all account
he is a very likable guy. I don't know a
lot about him. I don't know much about their roster
other than the fact also that it looks like they
could start the year out with four guys coming off
of injury. What do we know or what do you

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feel about Indiana coming into this season.

Speaker 4 (59:54):
Well, first of all, Darren is a he really built
toward this. I mean, he spent gosh almost two decades
coaching with two of the great minds in college basketball.
While at Creighton, first Dana Altman uh and then uh
and Ben mac McDermott. He he coached under two of

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the best, and then he got his break at Drake
and he never didn't succeed. And then he went to
West Virginia and even with a very injured roster, including
his son Tucker is now a Hoosier, they still were
probably were They were the one team that last year
had a legit claim to we really should have been
in There was there were there were marks against them,

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but they had a legit shot that they could have
been in to Sesay Carolina. But he so he has
done a really good coaching job every chance he's had.
And so I think that you have to feel like
at Indiana you have somebody who understands the game at
a high level.

Speaker 3 (01:01:01):
Now he's going to have to get.

Speaker 4 (01:01:03):
The recruiting back to where say it was under Arch
or maybe early early under Mike Woodson, they had some
really good recruiting circumstances, and then also you have to
be shrewd in the transfer portal. I think he did
a good job with some of the guys he brought in.
Connor in Wright, for instance, did a really nice job

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at The Paul.

Speaker 3 (01:01:25):
Last year.

Speaker 4 (01:01:25):
They actually won some games at some Big East games
at the Paul.

Speaker 3 (01:01:28):
Connor was a part of that.

Speaker 4 (01:01:30):
So I think it's it's not going to be an
immediate fix, but they will be. They will play good
basketball under degrees and I think that in very short
order next year, the year after, you'll start to see
the rewards for investing in the higher I think he

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wants to embrace being the Indiana coach. I always wondered
about Art. I've known archs for twenty years, twenty five years,
because we're both Pittsburgh people and and so I always
wondered about whether that part of it, the public part
of it, would work for him. And I convinced myself
after his press conference, Okay, it can work. And then

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the next couple of years you could see that it
really just wasn't for him, and.

Speaker 3 (01:02:19):
I don't think it was ever for him.

Speaker 4 (01:02:22):
For Mike Woodson. It just he never connected with that,
and I think Darren understands that. You do you take
on the Indiana job, you have to inhabit that part
of it as well. If you think you can just
go hide in the gym and X and O all day,
it's never gonna work. And I liked what he said
at his press conference in Chicago yesterday. He was He

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was very bright and engaging and answered every question and
seemed to embrace the role. I'm not gonna say he's
John Calipari in that sense, but I think he understands it,
and I think he can fulfill.

Speaker 3 (01:02:59):
That part of it.

Speaker 4 (01:03:00):
I have zero doubt about fulfilling the basketball part of it,
and then it's just a question of the recruiting part
is the third element, and I suspect they'll find a
way to do that. Even in times when Mike was
not not excelling, he still was able to bring.

Speaker 3 (01:03:16):
In some talent.

Speaker 1 (01:03:18):
Okay, you mentioned, Mike de COURSI that you are a
Pittsburgh guy. So I cannot let you go without asking this.
Because Indianapolis is off to a surprising start obviously at
four and one, I think we can say the cults
are pretty good. And then you start looking around the
AFC at teams that you know maybe are in that
same mix of a little bit better or in a

(01:03:38):
better situation than we thought. Is Pittsburgh legitimately good in
that AFC North or are that the beneficiary of two
teams in Cincinnati and Baltimore that have had injury hold
them back.

Speaker 3 (01:03:50):
Well, they haven't been beneficiary of that yet. I think
they would like to get on there.

Speaker 2 (01:03:53):
I just mean in leading the division.

Speaker 4 (01:03:55):
Yeah, I know, I'm just was going to make a
Lamar joke, but yeah, I mean, I think they'd like
to have a chance to be the beneficiary of.

Speaker 7 (01:04:01):
Not having to play against Lamar, is what I was
going to say, because he's amazing.

Speaker 4 (01:04:06):
They have not played well yet, except for the Vikings
game in Ireland when they were quite good. So they
appear to be.

Speaker 3 (01:04:13):
On an upwear trend. But they'll have a very difficult.

Speaker 4 (01:04:17):
Game on Sunday. I know, you look at it, three
and one Steelers, one in four Browns. What's hard about that?
If you've watched the Browns, you understand it's not as
simple as it seems. It's an outstanding defense, maybe the
best defense in the league, and you have to be
ready to play against that. I think the Steelers can
get very good. I think they can, but their offensive

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line has to get much better than it's been and
it's a process. They won't resolve that all in a week.
But it's possible that they could feel really good about
themselves by the time Indy gets here. It's also possible
that they could go the opposite direction. But if it
does go the opposite direction, they've got problems.

Speaker 1 (01:05:02):
November two, by the way, is that date when the
Colts will be in Pittsburgh and we will see very possible.

Speaker 2 (01:05:09):
Does excuse me?

Speaker 1 (01:05:10):
That could be I should say, two teams that might
face one another, you know, somehow into the postseason, but
a lot of football to be played between now and then. Mike,
appreciate it as always, great article on Braden Smith and
the Boilers, and we certainly look forward to talking to
you over the course of the basketball season anytime.

Speaker 3 (01:05:26):
Jake, always a pleasure.

Speaker 1 (01:05:27):
I appreciate it. Mike de Coursey joining us on the
Java House, Peel and Poor Guest line. By the way,
speaking of that Java House, Peel and Poor Guest line,
we do have a pretty cool announcement coming up on Monday.
In regards to that partnership, I'm thrilled with the partnership
with Java House and we can tell you more about
that coming up on Monday, which I look forward to.
Eddie has been I noticed by the way Eddie's been

(01:05:48):
dipping into the stash as the kids say, which one
are we going with here today?

Speaker 2 (01:05:52):
Eddie? I'm going with the Wrangler Energy.

Speaker 1 (01:05:54):
Look at you, Eddie with the sip right there.

Speaker 2 (01:05:58):
Oh yeah, loving it.

Speaker 1 (01:05:59):
Huh oh yeah, I'm going with the Liquid Science orange
hydration today, by the way. And Ralph Reeve, how about
Ralph Rereef saying when we were talking about working out
the importance of the hydration. Kevin Bowen, by the way,
speaking of important work, has been doing exactly that out
at Colts, the Colts Complex and practice, trying to find
out and figure out who we're going to see on Sunday.
Kenny Moore we now know is out. And that is

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a position that it just feels like Eddy or like,
what is the date going to be when the Colts
have a defensive backfield where all of the players at
the beginning of the year you were hoping are on
the field together, are going to be out there.

Speaker 2 (01:06:33):
When are the Pacers going to have a healthy point
guard room. Yeah, I mean that's that's a month at least.
I mean, you have obviously ty Reese was going to
miss the season with that torn achilles. You're bringing monte
Morris as a training camp body to compete for that
last roster spot. He gets injured and I'll workout two
days later you bring in Delawn Right to replace Montey

(01:06:53):
Morris as a training camp body to compete for a
last roster spot, in for that third point guard spot.
He has now been waived, and they bringing campaign and
TJ McConnell goes down like it is a total be
the McConnell injury.

Speaker 1 (01:07:08):
Just before the show today, I was in conversation with
somebody who was saying, and I want to be very
clear here, in no way, shape or form is this
like am I being alarmist? And if we were in
the middle of December, probably a completely different outlook. But
I think with McConnell with this injury that he's had

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the Pacers partially because of just the overall reality and
expectation of where and who they are right now and
that gap year, and I know that they don't want
to use that term, but the reality is that McConnell,
because of the fact that he's no longer twenty four
years old, the injury that he has, and I think

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it's is it hamstring?

Speaker 2 (01:07:51):
Is that right? Yeah? Left handing.

Speaker 1 (01:07:53):
They at least one month they're going to be And
that's because they're going to err on the side of
caution because I think there is some again, not because
of anything medically specific to this situation, but just based
on precedent, a loan of players that are past thirty.

(01:08:14):
They're going to take this very delicately and take it
very slowly because they are making sure that this is
not something that becomes recurrent with him. Not because of
his body, not because of that case, because of the
just the nature of the way things can be. Once
a player hits a certain age.

Speaker 2 (01:08:33):
Those tissues can become issues, Jake. That's why we call
them tissue issues. You know they can breed other tissue issues.

Speaker 1 (01:08:40):
Oh that's fair, Okay, that's fair, right, Nothing soft about
the soft tissues what you're getting at. Kevin Bowen going
to join us, going to do it next halfway through
the one o'clock hour in Indianapolis for that matter. Halfway
through the one o'clock hour everywhere in the Eastern time zone,
along with Eddie Garrison Colts, Cardinal's coming up Sunday, Kyler

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Murray practicing for Arizona. That's probably the biggest news going
into this one. By the way, I'm curious for people
of this. And I'll begin by saying, I love, I'm
a huge fan and always will be of the Indianapolis Star,

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and I do feel bad because the Star, like a
lot of different businesses, you know, is is victim to
in ever changing atmosphere and culture and you know, downsizing
and corporate mergers and all of those things. So and
I know a lot of the people over there, and

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they're great. I mean, you know, I have a lot
of friends that work over there, and so I know,
and I'm smart enough, and you know, I've been around
it enough to know that a lot of peoples, they
are just simply victims of circumstance. But I'm curious if
I'm the only one because this may be a me problem.
There are a lot of things that I think might
be a me problem. One of them is and I

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don't know when this came to be. And I'm just
curious if anyone else has experienced this in the last
month or so. The Indie Star app on my phone
online is like a completely different format and basically eighty
five percent of the time I click on it, it
either just doesn't load its blank or headlines come up

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and I can't click on them and nothing happens. Is
that a me thing? That's entirely possible.

Speaker 2 (01:10:36):
A me thing?

Speaker 1 (01:10:38):
But if anybody else has noticed some sort of your.

Speaker 2 (01:10:41):
Ferry recipient what's at text to beer faery recipient and
ask him, he may know.

Speaker 1 (01:10:45):
Yeah, I mean honestly, like and I don't know if
they're doing something differently. Kevin, Kevin, do you happen to
use Kevin Bowen, joins us from the Fan morning show.
He is on the Java House Peel and Poor guest line, Kevin,
do you use the Indie Star app on your phone?

Speaker 2 (01:10:59):
By chance?

Speaker 5 (01:11:01):
I'm pretty religious in terms of using just the web
like laptop, but I'm trying to even look at my
phone if I have the Indie Star app. I feel
like I used to have it and I thought it
was kind of worthless, So I don't really or I
didn't really use it much, but I mean online, Yeah,
I really don't have ever I have any issues.

Speaker 1 (01:11:19):
With it, okay, because the app it like right now
there's there's a story and I'm clicking on it and
like nothing's happening, you know what I mean. It's just
like I don't know like it, and it anytime that
I go on it.

Speaker 2 (01:11:31):
What's that have sounded?

Speaker 3 (01:11:33):
All?

Speaker 2 (01:11:33):
No question?

Speaker 1 (01:11:34):
But no when I go on it now their website
and again this might be a me thing or on
my phone thing, all I ever see is a thing
that just says trending and it has like the list
of ten articles and there's no like homepage that kind
of thing. So I don't know, maybe it's me. Maybe
I've got you know what it is, Kevin, I probably

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have the cookies. I think I have the cookies in
my phone. Is that what it is?

Speaker 5 (01:11:59):
We should we get Mark Dyton as you know, third
on the line here and he can.

Speaker 3 (01:12:03):
Walk us through.

Speaker 5 (01:12:04):
You know you at six fifty nine in the morning,
I won't let me log in today. Why can't I
splant from over here?

Speaker 1 (01:12:10):
I'm telling you PTSD for everybody, all right? So what's
that me included back in those days when we were
yelling about that. I think Jacoby Brissette was a cult
Are we going to see him starting on Sunday?

Speaker 5 (01:12:24):
Well, I think I just saw that Kyler Murray is
practicing today, So yeah, I guess this is going to
go down to the wire. I don't know. I'm a
little torn, like what would be best for the Colts.
Part of me thinks a limited running Kyler Murray at
five tens, standing in the pocket, having to throw the
football might honestly be better. I realized Jacoby is not

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much of a scrambler, but he has you know, taken
the bulk of the reps this week, So yeah, I
don't know. Typically, I feel like with a veteran quarterback,
if you practice one day, that's enough. But maybe Jonathan
and watches on practice today and it's like, oh boy,
he is a you know, a lot more limited. He
did not run it at all after the foot injury

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against Tennessee in the in the final four drives, and
that obviously is a huge part of this game. So yeah,
I could probably listen to conversations both ways on who
the Colts would rather see on Sunday.

Speaker 1 (01:13:20):
Let's talk about from the Colts standpoint, who's in and
who's out.

Speaker 2 (01:13:23):
We have had our eye on.

Speaker 1 (01:13:24):
We know Kenny Moore is out at this point, Kevin,
who else is out or could be in jeopardy of
out for the Colts?

Speaker 5 (01:13:32):
Yeah, Tyler Goodson the only other guy they ruled out,
so he's missed a couple weeks with a groin injury.
Alex Pearce has cleared concussion protocols. When we spoke last Friday,
he was the surprise guy that was out, so he
will play coming up on Sunday. So that is definitely
the positive. Gover Stewart looks to be good to go. Yeah,
I mean I think outside of Kenny and Tyler Goodson,

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the Colts looks to be really really healthy heading into Sunday.

Speaker 1 (01:13:58):
So that's the thing, you know, the the Kenny Moore injury.
I I want to go back to that, Kevin. There
was a time where when there was attrition in the
defensive backfield for the Colts, you would have said, okay, okay,
that's and I mean I was Kenny Moore is a
significant injury. But at this point they kind of have
gotten used to. We talked about it yesterday with James

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kind of moving guy, not moving guys around, but playing
with and having to go into the depth chart there
more than any other area, which is a tough position
to have to do that. But are we going to
see anybody else this weekend in the defensive backfield getting
looks that we have not seen previously?

Speaker 5 (01:14:39):
Well, so, Mike Chilton is who they had been using
without Kenny and then he suffered a shoulder injury. He's
on IR. During the game on Sunday, they went with
Chrysal Lamon, so I would assume Lamon's would and actually
thought he made a couple of nice plays against the Raiders.
I would assume he would be that guy. To me,
this is the week that kind of screams Moody Ward
shadowing margat Hi Garrison Junior and then Trey McBride as

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their tight end is a really good pass catcher to
definitely need a plan in place for him. But you know,
I mean Jonathan Edwards, your guy would probably be next up.
I mean Jalen Jones is still on IR, So I mean,
I don't think secondary wise, if they feel the need to,
you know whatever, shadow our spy is probably the better word.
Kyler Murray. Maybe some wrinkles would get in there, but

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I don't see anything, you know, as far as their
top three corners, I assume it be money Ward, Makayle Blackman,
and then I think Chris the Mons for Kenny Moore.

Speaker 1 (01:15:33):
Were you surprised by the move of you know, when
when when they signed your main Pratt, That's one thing,
but then to immediately hear the news about you go
into IR, Were you surprised by the latter part of that.

Speaker 5 (01:15:44):
Yeah, well it's just because they never announced an injury
in game, and so I don't know, maybe that's something
that developed after the game. Jane Second did say today
he doesn't think it's season ending injury for Bachi. So again,
IR means you got to at least miss four games.
But you know, he hadn't played well. I mean really
none of the linebackers have played very well next to

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Zia Franklin and and really the rumo, you know, personal
relationships having gone very well either. We'll see if Jermaine
Pratt the thing about practice different than Xavier and Howard
is he he's played this season. I mean he started
four games for the Raiders, so clearly he wasn't happy
with something that was there, and you know, very vague

(01:16:28):
on both parties. In what happened there. But you know,
he should be in game shape and given his history
with Lou and Rumo and the Colts, you know, definitely
think intelligence is one of his strengths. I would assume
he gets a chance to play and and and maybe
play significant snaps on some day.

Speaker 2 (01:16:44):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:16:44):
Kevin Bowen is our guest. You hear in the morning
on the Fan Morning Show with James Boyd and Jeff Rickard.
He is on the Java House Peel and Poor Guest
line Kevin. The the other thing that we've talked a
lot about over the course of the week, and that
is and I'm going to ask you the question, probably
going to ask you this weekly, right because but it
does fascinate me. Are the Colts getting the most out

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of Daniel Jones because of the way Shane Styking has
been calling plays for him? Or is Shane Stiking getting
the most out of the plays that he can call
because of the skill set of Daniel Jones.

Speaker 5 (01:17:23):
Yeah, it's a great question. I mean, the easy cop
I would say, I definitely think it's a little bit
of both. I've always been pretty bullish on Shane as
a play caller and just an offensive mind. I think
if I evaluated play callers is so difficult. It's like, well,
the play works, so that means it must have been
a good play. Oh, the play didn't work, so that
means it, you know, must have been a bad call.
I think it's difficult, especially from the outside to know,

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you know, if a guy is a great play caller
or not. But again, I think Shane has done a
really good job. It's very different quarterbacks Philip Rivers and
Justin Herbert and Jalen Hurts, and I do think that,
you know, he is a big X and O out
scheme chess match, you know, prepare guy. And so when
that quarterback's mindset I think matches more of what Shane's

(01:18:08):
you know, thinking is than you know. It makes clearly
a marriage that has had great success. And I think,
you know, by all accounts, the end of the Jones
is kind.

Speaker 3 (01:18:16):
Of that type of quarterback.

Speaker 5 (01:18:19):
So I think Shane is, you know, again pretty bullish
on what he's able to do Monday through Saturday and
get an offense ready. And you know, when Daniel can
you know, match that or you know, even recognize some
things that might be differently pre snap and then boom,
let's make this adjustment. Make that adjustment. This is what
Shane said might happen.

Speaker 3 (01:18:36):
Hey, let's do that.

Speaker 5 (01:18:37):
Then you're going to have I think a lot of success.
And obviously the Cults have had that.

Speaker 1 (01:18:42):
Who do you think is actually, I don't know how
to word this, Kevin, Who are you more convinced is
in fact, for real the Colts of the Jaguars.

Speaker 5 (01:18:54):
I think the Colts. I think the Jags have lived
off turnovers, and I think turnovers can get a little
hot and cold, and so I would say more of
the Colts. You know, point differential definitely would favor the Colts.
You know, Jacksonville has been in a lot of closer games,
but you know, maybe things changing. I mean, really Jacksonville's schedule,
I want to say they have I think it's like

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Seattle and the Rams the next two weeks and after
their bye week. It really like, I think your schedule
really eases up where you know, they've already played Kansas City,
They've already played San Francisco. You know, the Colts have
yet to play those two teams. I think the Colts
schedule it'll take a little while, but I think it'll
start to toughen up, probably more in kind of the
mid to late November range and then on. But yeah,

(01:19:36):
so far right now through five weeks, you know who's
the better four and one if you will, Yeah, Jacksonville
probably has a few more quality wins, if you want
to label it like that. But I think overall product
I think the Colts a little bit more sustainable, just
because yeah they have forced turnovers, but not anywhere near
the number that Jacksonville has.

Speaker 1 (01:19:53):
Who are you more convinced their record is not indicative
of who they have the potential to be? Kansas City
or Baltimore.

Speaker 5 (01:20:03):
Yeah, I probably bet on Kansas City. I'm going to
get you could chuck up, I guess now a couple
of games with the Lamar Jackson injury, but you know,
Kansaity easily could have won that on Monday night. You know,
the sugar reheet rights. I think back next week. You know,
how does that help them out? And I just I
don't know. I've lost so many just stupid bets when

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I've bet against my homes in my life that I'm
just you know, no, i I'd rather be wrong than
make that bet again.

Speaker 1 (01:20:32):
Who are you more convinced could be an NFL player
that is here to stay and what we're seeing is
indicative of their long term Cam Skataboo or Jackson dart.

Speaker 5 (01:20:47):
I think Scataboo will be a nice player until his
body just falls apart.

Speaker 1 (01:20:52):
I meant, well, I mean it is incredible, isn't it.

Speaker 5 (01:20:55):
I mean, can you imagine what Cam Scattoby's going to
be going through the age of forty five or you know,
dart By. I don't did the Giants get back in
the round one to take him? I kind of forget.
I mean, like a lot of people viewed him. I
think it's that third quarterback in this past year's class,
and really I guess he was above Sugar Sanders clearly.

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But you know that debate even before it turned into
Sanders dropping as far as he did, I didn't think
he was a name of the SEC and all of that.
So boy there too. Just if they're on your team,
they're the bash Brothers and you love them, but man,
they're going to be so hateable so quick.

Speaker 4 (01:21:32):
I was.

Speaker 2 (01:21:34):
Kevin. There was a play last night.

Speaker 1 (01:21:36):
I don't know how much of this you watched, but
there was a play where scatter But was late in
the game and you know, he does his typical and
he is a really fun player to watch, and he's
got a little John Riggins in him, little Campbell. I
mean all of that, right, but he you know, Mike
Alstott if you want.

Speaker 2 (01:21:51):
To go more recent.

Speaker 1 (01:21:52):
But he he had a play and they showed him
back in the huddle and he kept putting both hands
on the side of his kind of shaking his head
back and forth. And I thought, Okay, that's one of
two things. And I'm not trying to be a cynic here.
I'm like, that's either this guy's a bulldog or this
guy just got his bell rung. And and to your point,

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you worry about that, don't you a little bit in
terms of longevity?

Speaker 5 (01:22:19):
Well yeah, and then you have the weird you know,
concussion protocol of dayball at dart Boath going into the
or day ball and scataboo. I guess it was going
into the tent, which I assume the NFL is gonna
find that that is a heavy, heavy no no there.
So yeah, boy, he doesn't think much to hate the
New York teams, and the NF East is already pretty

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divided from a fan base standpoint. I can only imagine
what the reactions will be when those guys go to
Philly and go to Washington.

Speaker 1 (01:22:47):
Yeah, exactly right, all right, Kevin who the sun pick?

Speaker 5 (01:22:54):
He went Colt Seeah, I gotta post that here. I
thought the Cardinal might attract him on that helmet.

Speaker 1 (01:23:00):
Did you go which helmet was it? Was it the
because I'll tell you the Black Cardinals helmets are sweet.

Speaker 4 (01:23:06):
I know.

Speaker 5 (01:23:06):
I feel like I've got a nineteen ninety eight helmet pack. Yeah,
I might need to get if you have an updated one.
You've already done so much for Max. That great clumpson
jumpsuit you got them? Or that Barcelona I think it
was a Barcelona jumpsuit now that I'm thinking correctly on it,
that would be the football club Barcelona. And you got
Rosie Clempson dress. So if you have some extra many helmets,

(01:23:27):
I will take them. I thought the Cardinal he's got
a big bird watcher, but I thought the Cardinal might
be not atractive to him.

Speaker 2 (01:23:34):
Birdwatcher, No, not a big birdwatcher.

Speaker 5 (01:23:37):
But he's won four in a row. This is the
hottest he's been since the end of his rookie season.
And he went with the Colts. So he'll try to
stretch it to uh five to one, that damn dolphin
is the only thing that has led him Australa at.

Speaker 1 (01:23:49):
This point though he Now wait a minute, now here's here.

Speaker 2 (01:23:52):
Remember Kevin here, I still think there's an asterisk next
to that one. I'm blaming Maddy Bowen.

Speaker 5 (01:23:58):
Well, i'll let you bring that up to her. I'm
not telling any thirty six week pregnant.

Speaker 2 (01:24:02):
Woman that I'm blaming her for anything. I've got right here.

Speaker 1 (01:24:08):
A thing of many helmets, but they're all alternate helmets,
Like none of these are the legit helmet, like it's
the colts is like a light like a Easter egg
blue and then the bills are red. And you can't
go with that, right, These are totally doctored up helmets.
You can't go with that, right they have these have
to be at least you got the Yeah, it's kind

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of that.

Speaker 5 (01:24:33):
Yeah, okay, Well I already pulled out the chargers helmet
for next week. And that thing looks like I'm like,
the chargers haven't worn this in years, Like it's the
most bland charger's helmet out there. So yeah, we'll see.

Speaker 4 (01:24:43):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (01:24:44):
I assume he will get this pick accurate.

Speaker 1 (01:24:47):
See here's here's one, but it's Washing. Okay, it's the
Washington football team one. I'm like, you know, what are
we doing here?

Speaker 2 (01:24:56):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:24:56):
So is this my assignment? My assignment is Uncle Jake
is to come up some cool helmets?

Speaker 5 (01:25:01):
Well yeah, I mean I'm not asking you to you
know whatever, thirty two helmet different I get. I mean,
and I mean the NFL should consult with you. You
obviously have an extreme passion for it. What is each
team's dominant helmet, like you had to literally pull people
or that team, you know, the Colts is obvious, but

(01:25:23):
like other teams, clearly there are some indecisions. Okay, yeah,
Roger Gan, Allen's a third part of you for this.

Speaker 1 (01:25:29):
I'm looking right now, for example, at a set that
I could purchase for him. But the Colts helmet is
the the night helmet, the black one.

Speaker 5 (01:25:39):
Well yeah, I mean that's no, no, that can't no.

Speaker 2 (01:25:42):
I mean, that's that's once a year, That's what I mean.

Speaker 1 (01:25:45):
So like if you type in alternate helmet, that's what
you get, right, I mean, well, like some.

Speaker 5 (01:25:51):
People, like I'm trying to think, I'm trying to think
of a team that like you would say, the helmet
that they wore predominantly seven years ago is not the
helmet that they wear that much anymore. So I think
that's the Seattle would come to mind me that I mean,
you know what I mean, Yeah, Seattle. For some reason,
I feel like I'm thinking a little bit of Buffalo,
maybe even Tennessee. You know, I feel like Jacksonville has

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evolved a little bit in the short time they've been
a franchise. So it sounds like a perfect Saturday project
for you.

Speaker 1 (01:26:23):
I'm glad. I'm glad you're keeping me busy. I'll let
you know what's after I'm done with my finger painting.
I'll let you know when I get on project.

Speaker 5 (01:26:34):
You and Boo can do this coming up tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (01:26:38):
Thank you?

Speaker 1 (01:26:39):
All right, new responsibilities for me. By the way, Kevin,
here's the last thing for you to let you go.
You're ready, Yeah, I need you to tell me if
I should be offended by this or not. I'm going
this weekend. Actually, Shannon and I are going to Denver
to go see Paul McCartney tomorrow night at Corsfield.

Speaker 2 (01:26:55):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (01:26:57):
Nice.

Speaker 1 (01:26:59):
Denver is shannon hometown. Her two brothers still live there.
We're staying at her brother's house tonight. She's already there
for that reason. She's visiting friends, family whatever. I think
they actually have a dinner tonight. I get in tonight.
My flight lands at ten pm Denver time, and Shannon said,
can you go ahead and just take an uber from
the airport to my brother's house. Should I be offended

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that no one's offering to pick me up at the airport?

Speaker 3 (01:27:23):
No?

Speaker 5 (01:27:24):
No, not ten o'clock local time, No, no way, Friday night.

Speaker 3 (01:27:29):
No, I'm not.

Speaker 5 (01:27:30):
I would do the same thing. I mean, and again,
didn't you have the one who was your buddy? Was
it Farcas? Who was the guy that drove to Cincinnati
to pick you up?

Speaker 2 (01:27:39):
Iron from it? Yeah?

Speaker 5 (01:27:40):
Byron, Byron, Yeah, Byron, yeah, Byron above Farcas.

Speaker 2 (01:27:45):
I could remember. What about this?

Speaker 1 (01:27:47):
What about the fact that every single time anybody that's
related to her has come to Indianapolis, I'm always the
one that picks them up at the airport.

Speaker 5 (01:27:54):
Oh well, God, we don't need to go backways. Compliments
here for for ja Querry. I mean, you have the
personality of someone that would do that.

Speaker 2 (01:28:03):
A little bit.

Speaker 5 (01:28:04):
Most normal people ain't doing that. You're just you're just
ja querry. So if you're gonna be I mean, hell,
you would drive anybody from the airport if I know.
But if someone in the text line said they needed
a ride tonight from the airport at eleven pm, you
would probably shine.

Speaker 1 (01:28:19):
Right totally love it. Yeah, it's a rough way to live,
that's all I gotta say.

Speaker 5 (01:28:24):
All right, airport way out there in Denver too.

Speaker 3 (01:28:26):
It is.

Speaker 1 (01:28:28):
It's an eighty dollars uber ride. That's why I'm offended.

Speaker 5 (01:28:32):
Oh boy, yeah eighty yeah. Well then I might venmost
share that with everybody else.

Speaker 1 (01:28:35):
It's not as much that I want to see her
as soon as possible. I want to save the eighty bucks.
That's what I'm getting at.

Speaker 5 (01:28:40):
Well, that makes up. Well, just how about you? How
about you ubercarpool of somebody on your flight?

Speaker 1 (01:28:47):
Okay, new way to meet folks, fair enough, all right,
I'll get on the project tomorrow with the helmets as well.

Speaker 5 (01:28:55):
All Right, you guys have a great weekend, right.

Speaker 1 (01:28:56):
Kevin Bowen joining us on the program. Dave Revson by
the coming up about twenty five minutes from now, Big
One in Oregon. Over the weekend, we can discuss that
next hard to believe. By the way, this song also
prominently featured in this movie twenty five years ago, road Trip,

(01:29:17):
very underrated movie. I think you'd like road Trip, Eddie
if you like fat like did you like American Pie?

Speaker 2 (01:29:26):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:29:27):
Very similar. Road Trip is about the Dude.

Speaker 2 (01:29:30):
Another raunchy movie, that's what you're saying.

Speaker 1 (01:29:33):
Kind of.

Speaker 2 (01:29:33):
So the guy that plays Stiffler.

Speaker 1 (01:29:36):
Is in it, and basically what it's about is about
a bunch of guys that are in college together. They're
you know, everybody in college has that literally, did you
live in the dorms that you indie when you were
a freshman, No, I was a commuter, Okay, So in
the dorms. When you live in dorms in college, almost
invariably every dorm has that one guy that's like twenty

(01:30:00):
five and his parents think he's still in college taking
classes and he's actually not. He's just like living hanging out.
And so Tom Green, who had like a nine month
era of relevance during this time, is in the movie
and he plays that guy. But it's about basically a
kid who needs to go across the country to go

(01:30:21):
visit his high school girlfriend at her college, and so
they have the one dork on the dorm floor that
has a car, and so they buddy up with him
and then they all drive across the country together and
it's about their venture, their adventure.

Speaker 2 (01:30:34):
It's great.

Speaker 1 (01:30:36):
That's my endorsement for a quarter century now old movie
that was probably a big movie at the time. I'd
like for you to see what I'm about to do.
Right here, Eddie, you're ready. It's this fast and easy.
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(01:31:00):
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Speaker 2 (01:31:16):
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Speaker 1 (01:31:18):
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Speaker 2 (01:31:25):
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Speaker 1 (01:31:27):
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Big Weekend in College Football and it is headlined by
Indiana and Oregon. Dave Revs are going to join us

(01:31:48):
to talk about exactly that. I am intrigued, Eddie because
I I think Indiana. I don't know how to word this,
but I am. We are like in week seventy now
of me saying well, I don't know how good Indiana is,

(01:32:09):
but I think this week we're gonna find out. And
then they win, and they win fairly convincingly, Like by
the fourth quarter of games you're like, yeah, I mean
they're gonna win this game. They were up seventeen a
minute ago, now it's twenty four, and now it's sort
of and it just continues that way. And when I
look at this matchup with Oregon, I think to myself, Okay,
I know Oregon offensively is extremely efficient, but so too

(01:32:34):
is Indiana.

Speaker 2 (01:32:35):
They have a really good tight end Oregon does they
have a.

Speaker 1 (01:32:38):
Really good quote I like their quarterback a lot too, right.

Speaker 2 (01:32:40):
Dantae Moores one of the guys that one of the
Heisman favorites with Fernando Mendoza. The winner of this game,
does that dicttor who wins the Heisman?

Speaker 1 (01:32:48):
Jake the Heisman? It is interesting because oftentimes there are
so many ebb and flows of If you go back
and look historically speaking, the Heisman front runner in like October,
very seldomly is that the Heisman winner. It's usually somebody
that is pretty consistent over the course of the year,

(01:33:10):
and then late in the year has two or three
you know, the seismic last minute push and you're like, boom,
there it goes. So in other words, you know, I
remember when Dak Prescott at one point it was like
this guy is they've already put his name on the trophy.
You know, there have been players like that where you've
looked at it to begin at one point in the
year and said, man, they've already engraved it, and then

(01:33:32):
by Thanksgiving you're like, what happened to that guy?

Speaker 2 (01:33:35):
Can Jeremiah Smith win it for Ohio State? Yes, he's
really good. Oh yeah, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:33:43):
Marvin Harrison Junior is one that you would have sworn
was gonna win it, right, Yeah, maybe, I mean there
are there are a lot of players that you know,
I love the Heisman. When I was a kid, I
got a coffee table book called the Heisman that had
it was it was a photo book of all the
Heisman winners and I loved it. And I had this

(01:34:03):
unique skill where from like nineteen, if you were to
go back from like sixty nine to like ninety five,
I can just rattle them off like that, Right, I
love it. And then we went into this phase in
the early to mid two thousands where the Heisman winner
was basically just the best player on the best team,
the quarterback on the best team. And there were some

(01:34:24):
in that realm where you're like, yeah, okay, I mean
it got a little bit. There were some guys here
like that probably was not the best player that year.
Chris Wink comes to mind, and Jason White comes to mind.
But now I think we've gotten back to and I
think last year, I mean, the reality is like Ashton genty. Now,

(01:34:44):
when you look at it, you go, Okay, this guy
really was special and what he was able to do
at Boise State was really special. And I think you
can see it already now with the Raiders.

Speaker 2 (01:34:56):
Jeremiah Love is having one of those special years too.
For Notre Dame.

Speaker 1 (01:35:00):
He's another one that Notre Name has two backs.

Speaker 2 (01:35:04):
That are really good.

Speaker 1 (01:35:05):
Yeah, Tadarian Price and Price is really good yep. And
that might hurt them, right, is the fact that they
may kind of offset one another. But I don't know why.
I've always been fascinated about a Heisman. And then there
are some schools that it's surprising how either how many
Heisman winners they've had or.

Speaker 2 (01:35:23):
How few Heisman winners they've had.

Speaker 1 (01:35:26):
But no, I think Mendoza, you are correct in the fact, Eddie,
that this game this weekend could go. It could have
implication in that.

Speaker 2 (01:35:35):
John matierback for Oklahoma this week. It sounds like potentially
he was another one of those potential Heisman candidates. He
suffered a right hand injury. I believe Oklahoma has a
big test this week, and I have to double check
on that. But Oklahoma's got Texas yep, so a test
but not a big one. And dan Arlovsky is still
insistent and I don't think he's wrong that arch Manning,

(01:35:59):
and I think arch Manning for sure now comes back
for another year. I don't think he although I think
he could have been. He could win the Heisman this year,
and I think he still would have contemplated coming back
because that's kind of been what the Mannings have done.
But I do still believe that he will be the
number one player taken when he comes out, even if
he has struggled, and I know he has struggled, but
even with his struggles, you have to look at just

(01:36:21):
the pedigree alone, and if there is even a percentage
of a chance that he can be what his two
uncles are, then you go with it. You would take Eli, right,
I mean, you want it to be Peyton, But even
if you got Eli's career out of it, you're like, Okay,
let's go. I'm good with that. Right.

Speaker 1 (01:36:42):
Oregon, to me is intriguing because of the fact that
their big way, I mean, that win at Penn State
was impressive because their back was against the wall. They
had to come down, they had to, they had to
they had to have two drives that were really impressive
late in that game, including in the overtime. But Penn's
again I said it earlier. Every time we start to

(01:37:04):
think that Penn State is this is the year that
they're going to stake their claim and keep themselves. Once
the leaves turn and the leaves start falling, and my
mom's warning comes out that Penn State is still in
the thick of it. What I've said on this show
a billion times every year saying with Penn State, start out,

(01:37:24):
go four and zero, everybody gets excited, go play Ohio State,
lead seventeen to six, late third quarter, everybody gets excited.
You go and you do something. You come back and
they lose twenty seven to seventeen.

Speaker 2 (01:37:39):
What the world happened?

Speaker 1 (01:37:41):
And then after that disappointment, they turn around a week
or two later and lose to Minnesota. And so last week,
as they're getting ready to play against Oregon, as they're
playing at a home game in Happy Valley with all eyes,
all attention on them, just when you think they might
be legit, and just when you think they might beat

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Oregon and hang around, they stand up and say we
are Penn State. And they prove it by losing that
game and then turning around, going on the road and
laying a complete egg against the worst team in the
Big Ten in UCLA. And I think that that devalues
a little bit for Indiana because for Indiana, and I

(01:38:25):
think Indiana, if they were especially if they're to beat Oregon,
then what happens in Happy Valley is probably inconsequential. But
in terms of their playoff seating, if you're Indiana and
you're trying to position for that, what you really wanted
was for your two signature quality, here we are. We're
putting it at your feet and argue why. I mean,

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obviously the Illinois win is going to be massive for them,
but I think Illinois is going to It's entirely possible.
Illinois has not even ranked by the time the pairings
come out the Penn State and Oregon games. If they
were to get both of those games, and so certainly
if they were to get one of the two, then
you feel really good about Indiana's profile. But now it

(01:39:08):
hurts them a little bit by the Penn State loss
to UCLA. I mean, because if you go into Penn
State and you beat them, now it's like, well, that's
what you're supposed to do, and if you lose to them,
it hurts you a little bit. But nonetheless, you know,
do you think they'll go in and win tomorrow?

Speaker 2 (01:39:30):
I don't, but it wouldn't shock me. They've got the
They're coming off the bye week, so they're fully prepared,
they're resting, they had a week to get used to
practicing at whatever time they want to practice at for
the West coast trip, to get used to that. You know,
that timing and that circadian rhythm. It's going to rain, though,
is the is the challenge? Right?

Speaker 4 (01:39:48):
Uh?

Speaker 3 (01:39:48):
Is it?

Speaker 2 (01:39:49):
I'm not sure. I'm not familiar with the forecast for Saturday.

Speaker 1 (01:39:53):
I mean, I think when you think of Oregon in general,
obviously this time of year, you know, you think about
the fact that, like it's not always the sunniest of places,
but you know, you might need you might need to
play it under lights a little bit. Speaking of under lights,
the scoreboard is going to be lit up. I'm telling
you right now, because at least in my mind, whenever
I think of Purdue and Minnesota, I think of it

(01:40:14):
being like a fifty six to fifty five game. That's
the matchup this week for the Boilers in the Twin
Cities taking on the Gophers.

Speaker 2 (01:40:20):
Look at how far we've come, Jake. We've come from
your manifestation that IU is going to shock the world.
A couple of years ago and go into the Big
House in upset, Michigan, and they laid after the first
quarter and then they get throttled to Now we're wondering
can they go on the road and beat a organ
duck team that's one of the best in the country.

Speaker 1 (01:40:40):
I think they can. I honestly. I again, you know
how good is Oregon? I think Oregon's really good. And
I was so impressed by them in the way that
they handled things against Penn State. And I hate saying it,
but and then is that devalued by Penn State's effort

(01:41:03):
or lack thereof at UCLA or maybe that just took
the wind out of Penn State. But UCLA is terrible.
I mean, they are really bad. But it's the mark.
I mean, it's the Marquee game, college game days there,

(01:41:24):
and Signetti has that like swagger about himself. Again, I
go back to I think last year when he went
on college game Day just before the Indiana Notre Dame game,
he almost like lost sight of what show he was
on and what the moment was. It was almost bizarre.
It was like he I think he looked over and
saw McAfee there and thought for a second that he

(01:41:46):
was on that show and literally like vapor locked on
the fact that he was getting ready to see his
team play in a college football playoff game and was
on the pregame game day and that seemingly just and
then he went out and they all kind.

Speaker 2 (01:42:02):
Of vapor locked.

Speaker 1 (01:42:04):
But we'll find out more about that and the slate
of Big ten games because joining us now on the
Java House, Peel and poor guest line he is a
friend of the show. You see him on the Big
Ten Network. Dave Revsen joins us to talk primarily Indiana
and Oregon.

Speaker 2 (01:42:17):
Dave, how are you?

Speaker 7 (01:42:19):
I am doing well? What's going on?

Speaker 3 (01:42:21):
Jake?

Speaker 2 (01:42:22):
You know I'm still Dave.

Speaker 1 (01:42:25):
I just said I feel like I'm in week fifty
of saying to myself, is this the week we find
out if Indiana's for real? Because it just still feels surreal, right,
And the fact that here it is top ten matchup
with Oregon, and yet I don't know, you know, with Oregon.
I mean this is they always have that time of year, Dave,
that's called Separation Saturday where just teams kind of separate

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from one another with big matchups. Is this one of them?
Or in reality? Is this a game that so long
it stays closed, it doesn't derail either team's postseason hopes.

Speaker 7 (01:43:00):
I think the latter, Jake, I think these are both
really good teams. I mean, they're both in the top
ten in the nation in scoring offense, in scoring defense.
I don't think there's an obvious weakness that we've seen
with either one of them. I think they're both really good.
They've both had some games where they've played better than
other games. And you know, I still think Indiana's win

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over Illinois, like what else do you need? I mean,
they won by fifty three points. Like, it's crazy to
me that there's still people who are doubting Indiana. And
I don't think, like if you go into Oregon and
don't win at a place where you know the home
team has won the most consecutive games of any stadium
in America, like somehow that that's going to reflect poorly,

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don't Indiana? Like I just don't get it. I don't
know what else they have to do. But obviously, were
they to go in and win, I mean, I think
this whole thing would hit like a totally different level.
I mean, you know, you might be looking at an
Indiana team that's ranked second in then or you know,
depending on what happens in Champagne. I mean, you know
this is this could be a seismic win, as I'm

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sure you know they've never won a road game against
the top five team in the history of the program.
I mean, you know, this would be in some ways
the most impressive win in the history of Indiana football.
So it's a huge opportunity. But I just think that
if they don't win, I don't think that that tells
us anything other than they're playing a really good team tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (01:44:26):
I watched Oregon, you know, like most against Penn State,
and Dave where I was so impressed was say what
you want about Penn State, and you know, their their
disappointment a week later in the Rose Bowl. But to
go into Happy Valley in a white out like that
in a hostile environment, Oregon not once, but like two

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or three times in the last ten minutes of that
game had to have drives of complete pinpoint accuracy and
did exactly that.

Speaker 2 (01:44:55):
I thought.

Speaker 1 (01:44:55):
Offensively, they looked as efficient as anybody I've seen in
some time in those situations. But what is what is
the overwhelming strength and presentable weakness of Oregon. As you
look at what Indiana is going to try to exploit.

Speaker 7 (01:45:13):
I think that you can run the ball on Oregon
to go to the weakness, and we've seen some teams
do that. I thought Northwestern ran the ball pretty well
on them, so that that would be the one area
in obviously, So you know, I'm in Indiana started the
year over three hundred yards for straight games running the ball,
and then you're just not going to do that to Iowa.
I mean, I wish just too good defensively, but I

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think that that's the one area of weakness that I
could find, or relative weakness. I still think Oregon's got
a good run defense. As far as strengths, I'd say
pretty much everything else. I mean, I just think they're
really really good. I think you could make an argument
they're the most complete team in the country. To your point,
Dante More is just great. He's got very talented wide

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receivers to Coreyan Moore is outstanding the freshman wide receiver.
They've got talented wrong backs. They're just a very very
good team. They're gonna they're gonna create some havoc up
front and on defense. So I think that's going to
be a challenge for sure, you know, dealing with Mettelia Leanal.
I mean, he's a he's a force, and and you know,

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we saw It's interesting because I think Kurtzignetti has said
this right that like what separated them last year from
the from the two elite teams that they lost to
was offensive line and was the offensive line good enough?
And he felt like it wasn't and so they went
out and made some changes. This will be a good
test of that how they deal with Oregon's offensive line,

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because it's it's really good.

Speaker 3 (01:46:40):
Really talented.

Speaker 1 (01:46:41):
Dave Revsen is our guest good.

Speaker 7 (01:46:43):
The defensive line.

Speaker 2 (01:46:44):
Sorry, yeah, go ahead.

Speaker 1 (01:46:45):
Dave Revsin's our guest from the Big Ten Network. He's
on the Java House Peel and poor guest line, Dave.
When you look at the conference in general, you know,
and I think obviously up top, those that we thought
were going to be there are there. But be it
somebody that is playing more competently than you expected, or
somebody who has been slower out of the gate than expected.

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Who is your biggest surprise so far in the Big Ten?

Speaker 7 (01:47:10):
I think Michigan's actually a little bit better than I
thought they would be. I just thought like with a
freshman quarterback there'd be some growing pains, and they didn't
play great clearly when they play Oklahoma. But I think
they're a little ahead. I didn't think Justice Haynes would
be this good. I mean, he is really good. He's
as good at running back maybe as there is in
the country. I still don't think they're great at wide receiver.

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They're very good defensively.

Speaker 3 (01:47:34):
I think it's a.

Speaker 7 (01:47:35):
Really interesting game tomorrow, them going to USC, because I
think those are two teams that you have to squint
too hard to think. If things fall their way, they
could be teams that are in the College Football Playoff discussion.
So I think we learn a lot about Michigan, but
I didn't think they were quite at that CFP level.
They may not be. I mean, we may get to
the end of the day tomorrow and USC beats them,

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and that would be a challenge for Michigan to make
it from there. But I'd say they're a little better.
Look Penn State is a huge story on the flip side.
I mean, they're not the only one. Right We're dealing
with Number one, number two, and number four in the
preseason poll are all out of the poll through one
week of games in October. I mean, that's just crazy.
It shows you, I think, you know the degree of

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parody that we have in college football right now. But
I'm astonished at what happened to Penn State. Not against Oregon.
I think Oregon's fabulous, and I thought Oregon was going
to win that game. But I mean to go to
UCLA and to lose, and to have so many chances
to come back and win the game and just never
be able to get a stop. I mean, it's really
astonishing to see what happened to them last week. And

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you know they got to win out now. I mean,
they still have Indiana and Ohio State. So if you
win both those games, you're going to be in the playoffics.
I mean, you win everything else. But but there just
isn't a whole lot of evidence to support the notion
that they would win those games because of what we've
seen from them.

Speaker 1 (01:48:55):
Dave one of them, one of them that has surprised
me and I because it's been like all of a sudden,
I just looked and saw it, you know, kind of
snuck up on me, I guess, And so maybe I'm
naive here. What has caused the You know, we're so
used to and accustomed to seeing Wisconsin being at the top.
And I think they have a good coach or certainly

(01:49:16):
one that came in with a big pedigree. What has
been the issue for the Badgers?

Speaker 7 (01:49:24):
Man, where do you want to start? They can't run
the ball. They cannot line up and run the ball.
And it's so weird because you think about the tradition
with Ery Terrez. Yeah, kind of the way that they
built that program. That part of it is crazy. I
believe they're lasting the Big ten in rushing yards for

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a tempt. They're either last or next to last, So
that part of it is really stunning. Look, they've had
quarterback injuries. Third straight year. Their starting quarterbacks gotten hurt.
There now with a third different starter. They started Hunter Simmons,
he's a Southern Illinois transfer. Last week they have Ganny
O'Neil who started at San Diego State last year. He

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started games. Obviously, Billy Edwards is brought in to be
the start of the Maryland transfer. He's been hurt, so
it's hard. There are a lot of teams that are
able to go three deep at quarterback, and it felt
like they kind of reinforced themselves for just this eventuality,
and you know, they find themselves here again. So they've
had some rotten luck. Their schedule is absolutely brutal, and

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so that doesn't help either. I mean, there just aren't
a lot of places on the schedule for them to
get well. But i'd say those are the big things.
I mean, just kind of offensively, they're nowhere near where
you'd expecting to be. They've got a really good run defense,
they've done on a great pass defense. Yeah, it's it's wild,
I mean, is it's crazy to see it because they've
just been the model of consistency here as you know, Jake,

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for years and and they're just not there. And it's
the things that they built the identity of the program
around that they can't do.

Speaker 1 (01:50:57):
One other one for you, Dave, only because we haven't
had it has talked to you since you guys were
able to go around as a matter of fact, paratrooping,
skydiving into the different which was fun, into the different
camps over the course of the preseason. You got a
chance to be around and I know at this point
zero and two in the conference, but I personally, just
in watching games, I really liked what I've seen out

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of Bury otom and by that I mean he just
looks like a guy that has a control of the sidelines.
And while I realize that he is trying to get
a program going in the right direction, Purdue looks to
me like a team that does play with an increased
level of discipline. But I've not been to their practices.
You were around it. What were your impressions and takeaways

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from West Lafayette.

Speaker 7 (01:51:43):
Well, I would just say, first of all, I agree
with everything you said about barriotem He's great, Like he's
just totally buttoned out. He gets it. I can see
where players would really like him. He is a low
key demeanor to him that I think would be really
relatable for young people. I will say, Jake, like they
had they were not good that they were there. I
mean they scrimmage and it was it was rough. Now

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they everyone was getting reps, I mean literally every single
guy on the roster, and so sometimes you're looking, you know,
look at a player like, wow, I was a mess.
But they are guys who probably aren't going to play
all year, and it's hard to discern that. But they
to the degree to which they improved from the day
that we were there to the day they kicked off
the season was market It was really impressive. I think

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offensively they're good. I mean, Ryan Brown has been very good.

Speaker 2 (01:52:33):
I like a lot of the.

Speaker 3 (01:52:33):
Receivers they have.

Speaker 7 (01:52:35):
It's been a little bit more of a challenge to
stop people defensively. Sometimes that takes longer. I just think
it's harder to out scheme people defensively, Like, ultimately you
still have to make the tackle, and they just haven't
necessarily been able to do that. They haven't necessarily been
able to cover in the way that they want to.

Speaker 3 (01:52:51):
But I have one hundred percent.

Speaker 7 (01:52:54):
Belief in that he's the right guy and that they'll
turn this thing around here sooner rather than Like, I
don't think this is going to be this kind of
laborious build that we used to see because in this
day and age, you can't turn things around much more quickly,
evidence to what's happened in Bloomington. So yeah, I agree
with you. I think they got the right guy. I again,

(01:53:14):
I just think like fitting all those pieces together, it's
not going to happen overnight. But I think they've got
a good plan, and I really really like the direction
of that program.

Speaker 1 (01:53:23):
Going to be a really busy slate of games in
the Big Ten coming up, obviously, as it is each
and every Saturday. Dave Revsen, Big ten Network lifelong White
Sox fan, but Cubs with a chance to punch their
ticket to the NLCS tomorrow. Do you get on the
Cubs bandwagon? I can't recall if you are one of
these that's like a North and South side fan.

Speaker 7 (01:53:43):
No, I do not, in any way get on the
Cubs bandwagon. I would say I have, I have softened
this somewhat. In my old age, there was definitely you know,
for years, I was just like, you know, if the
Cubs win the World Series, I'll just have to leave
the country. But once the White Sox had won it

(01:54:03):
and I saw it was a really special moe for me,
and I don't want to, you know, take up time,
you know, talking about the two thousand and five Chicago
White Sox. So I'm sure it's a huge interest to
your listenership. You didn't even it was the last game,
as you know, like my dad passed away in two
thousand and seven, and it was a huge sports fans
The reason I'm a sports fan, the last sporting event
I went to with my dad was Game two of
the World Series, Scotty pathetic to walk up home running

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the rain, and it is a memory I'll take with
me forever. And I have so many friends who's who
are Cubs fans and who I wanted to see experience
something similar with special people in their lives. So I
was happy when the Cubs won it, But now that
they've done it, I don't need to see them do
it again. So no, you know, like I'm all in
on the Brewers And.

Speaker 1 (01:54:49):
Yeah, he's working his throwback cecil Cooper Jersey as we're talking.

Speaker 7 (01:54:53):
Yes, I mean that's just where I am, like, like
I want to, you know, I want to pretend like
a nice guy, but I mean everyone has their livings.

Speaker 1 (01:55:02):
No nest your mind, I said, Dave. I'm telling you
I and my parents are huge Cubs fans. I grew
up a Reds fan, I said. When the Cubs were
on the cusp of it in twenty sixteen, I'm like, look,
it's great if you win a World Series, but once
you win it, Cubs fans, you just become another obnoxious
fan base.

Speaker 2 (01:55:21):
Right.

Speaker 1 (01:55:22):
The love of a loser mantra is gone. You're just
another fan base, So I get it. So go brew crew, Right,
I'm with you.

Speaker 7 (01:55:33):
I'm ken fingers come in.

Speaker 2 (01:55:38):
That's right.

Speaker 1 (01:55:39):
Better known as the president of the Gordon Thomas Fan Club,
Dave Repsen on the Java House Peel and Port guest line,
Dave appreciate it as always man enjoy the games this.

Speaker 7 (01:55:47):
Weekend at Great Talk to Jake.

Speaker 1 (01:55:50):
Dave Repsen of the Big Ten Network joining us. All right,
is our Friday interesting?

Speaker 2 (01:55:55):
Eddie?

Speaker 1 (01:55:55):
You'd mentioned that we gave away the Kansas tickets earlier, right, yeah,
and when we did, you said it was Evan that
had a note for me when you were getting the
information from him.

Speaker 2 (01:56:05):
Is that right? That is correct? And that note was
He said he wanted to thank you for spreading the
message about Franciscan health and the heart screenings because he
went and got one recently and everything came back aoka.
But he said the process was very easy and that
he's thankful that he went through it because now he's
aware of how easy it is to get a forty
dollars heart skin. You love it.

Speaker 1 (01:56:23):
That is the peace of mind that comes with that
and a heart health risk assessment. One of the things
that we do each and every Friday is tell you
about that and a Franciscan Health, feel good, good for
the Heart Friday. And for this Friday, we go to
somewhere that I wasn't even aware of until about a
month ago. I'll explain next. It is a Friday, it
is the bottom of the two o'clock hour.

Speaker 2 (01:56:44):
You know what that means.

Speaker 1 (01:56:45):
Franciscan Health, feel good, good for the heart Friday. We're
gonna need the stories of Oftentimes, I like for it
to be a high school athlete that just does something
that makes your heart feel good. And if you know
of an athlete, you know of, a store you know of.
Sometimes it might be an underdog. Sometimes it's somebody that
simply did something spectacular. I would love for you to

(01:57:06):
pass along that information to me, and I will give
you the information on making sure that your heart is
in the right place. That is the whole purpose of course,
each and every Friday of our segment with Franciscan Health.
And a reminder, as Eddie had mentioned, as Evan had
mentioned to him, the heart scans are so easy to do.

(01:57:28):
It's just forty nine dollars you can pay out a pocket,
you can self refer it's non invasive, and it really
is important, especially if you are over the age of forty.
If you and it doesn't mean that you have to
be in these categories, but certainly if you are, if
you've had problems with your cholesterol or diabetes, if you're
a former or current smoker, you have a history of

(01:57:49):
family heart disease like myself, then the heart scans are
really important because not only can you get a look
at just the overall calcium score within your heart, but
also you get a heart health risk assessment where they're
going to give you kind of the roadmap on where
you stand in your cardiovascular health.

Speaker 2 (01:58:07):
And I would love for you folks to do it.

Speaker 1 (01:58:10):
I appreciate the number of people that have mentioned to
me in the past that they got a heart scan
and the peace of mind that comes with it, or
in some cases, actually I've had a couple of people
that have said, look, I went in, thank goodness because
I found out that I had blockage and had to
go in immediately and get a stent. And you know,
it can be life saving, and that stuff means a
lot to me, as I know it does the people

(01:58:32):
that have benefited from the great work that they do
at Franciscan, and you're talking about a place that is
number one by care checks and others in terms of
their cardiovascular care. A couple of weeks ago, you may
recall that I did a fundraiser I mentioned with Tony
Kanaan where we went to kind of the near southeast side,
over in your Fountain Square, to a school that I

(01:58:54):
will be honest with you, I was unfamiliar with this
school and I was super impressed by the school itself.
Providence CHRISTA. Ray is the school, and this is a
school that is set up. Initially they were operating on
the near west side. They now have a beautiful building

(01:59:15):
that is right over near Fountain Square. And the school
itself home of the Wolves, mind you, the Lobos Lobos
the name of the mascot. As I was walking through
the school, I was very taken by, excuse me, a
couple of different things. Number One, the students themselves. You know, obviously,

(01:59:37):
this is a school that is working within you know,
as a Catholic foundation, but it is designed to be
a school for students that have to qualify by coming
from lower income families, and more often than not, the
families that the students are coming from are first generation Americans,

(02:00:00):
and the design is also for these students to become
first generation college students of Americans. And in talking to
the kids and in listening to their stories, it was
remarkable listening to the valedictorian or the girl that will
be the valedictorian this year, who's the president of the
honor society at the school. She gave a speech about

(02:00:20):
the school and talked about how she had gone on
a retreat at Notre Dame and it was the first
time really that she had been around students that were
from backgrounds different than hers, and you know, she kind
of got shy and reserved because of it, but then
realized that she needed to push through because she herself
wanted to become a college student. And the illumination that

(02:00:44):
took place in that weekend of just being out of
her element and out of her comfort zone, and as
she had mentioned, it almost like standing at the edge
of a cliff and deciding that, you know, she needed
to move forward and push herself. And I saw that
from so many of the kids at this school and
the work that they're doing and impacting the lives of
so many kids that are going to be the next

(02:01:05):
generation of leader here in Indianapolis. And that included as
I was walking around the school, because I noticed the
soccer fields and I was asking about and we were
in the gymnasium obviously, and so I was asking about
the athletic teams, and they said, well, we just had
a student that qualified for the first time. Now that

(02:01:26):
Providence Chrystal Ray is an IHSAA member school, we had
our first athlete qualify for an IHSAA State Finals tournament.
And that student was just honored this week at their
senior night. And I'm talking about Jessica Martinez. Now, Jessica
Martinez is a student at PCR who, like many of

(02:01:48):
her peers, grew up in a household where a college,
for example, wasn't necessarily on the radar because she is
within a family where her folks did not go to school,
meaning college. And again, so many first generation Americans within
this school that is funded through different charities, different foundations

(02:02:13):
and fundraisers like Tony Kanaan and I were helping out
with to help for the curriculum and the academic rigors
and everything else, the tutoring, but also the tuition for
the students that are going to the school. So Jessica
was one who plays literally every sport that she can
play at school and realized and noticed that the IHSAA

(02:02:34):
for the first time was doing girls wrestling. And when
you think about wrestling, wrestling is such an individual sport
and those that go into wrestling, when they go into it,
oftentimes it is about a discipline. It's like the martial arts,
and the fact that the personal discipline that goes into
it can lead to life lessons that go well above

(02:02:57):
and beyond what takes place on the met Sure, it's
interesting enough to have a girl's wrestling program, but she
saw that and I think just overall in talking to
people that know Jessica, it was the initiative, in the
drive of the individual, pushing yourself and going outside your
comfort zone that was of appeal to her. So she

(02:03:17):
went ahead. She signed up as a freshman before it
was even like within the ISSAA sanctioning, and in doing
so she matter of fact, I will tell you exactly
and read it to you exactly as they said it
to me. After dominating her sectionals in regional matches, she
competed against the undefeated three time reigning state champion in

(02:03:38):
her weight class and made it all three rounds before
losing by a single point to her opponent. Her opponent
penned every other girl she wrestled during the tournament, making
Jessica the only one to go unpinned. She finished the
season last year at twenty one and six and then
enjoyed it so much that now she is a member
of the volleyball team at Providence CHRISTA.

Speaker 2 (02:03:58):
Ray.

Speaker 1 (02:03:58):
But more importantly, she also was able to use that
discipline that drive towards getting herself into a program with
the local real estate company, because at Providence Chrysto. Ray
it is a work study program where every student goes
to school Monday through Thursday, but then on Friday has
to work a job. And she is doing someone doing

(02:04:20):
that job within the real estate business here in Indianapolis
and learning those traits that will allow her, of course,
beyond high school itself. And now after all of that,
after competing, after getting to the state finals and becoming
the first Wolf athlete to make it to the IHSAA

(02:04:40):
state finals in any sport, she does now have her
eyes set on college and next year will be within
her family the first to attend college. All because of
the lessons that she has learned through athletics, and I
think that's the important thing here. We talk so much
about on this show sports in general, and we talk
about professional athletes, but we lose sights sometimes of the

(02:05:04):
value that can come from learning just the most simple
of disciplines on an individual level into the team level,
in Jessica's case, going from wrestling into volleyball and being
able to work with others as well, and then do
so in a work co op that will build the
foundation from athletics and academics moving forward. And again, as

(02:05:25):
is the case with any group of people, you want
to see the generation below you or behind you, I
should say, being able to walk into a situation better
than the one that you had. And that's exactly what
her family and her school is doing for her. So
I want to thank Providence christa Ray for allowing Tony
Kanat and myself to see exactly the work, the initiative

(02:05:46):
that they do, and the mission that they have. It
was a pleasure to work with them, and it was
a pleasure to see that photo so proudly displayed right
there within the halls of the Wolves that others can
look towards and other kids can look towards as well,
their own personal accomplishments and personal initiatives and goals. We'll
come back, we'll see what jamv has lined up. We'll

(02:06:06):
also give you our prediction for the Cardinals and the Colts.
We'll do it on the other side on this Friday
edition Aquaring Company. I am surprised, Eddie, surprised. We haven't
talked to a lot of lines and you know, points
spreads that kind of thing often, but anytime there's one

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that's seismic in the NFL, it jumps out at me.
I'm a little surprised. And Eddie, you tell me if
you are or or not that Cincinnati's getting fourteen and
a half in Green Bay.

Speaker 2 (02:06:36):
I'm not surprised. Green Bay's coming off of bye week.
And I don't know if you've paid attention to Jake.
They've got a pretty good defense and Cincinnati has a
pretty poorse offensive line. I get that, but I mean
starting Joe Flacco on a week of just you know,
he was in there what Tuesday, and now he's the
starter when you've got Jamar Chase and t Higgins just
those two alone, I mean Jamar Chase questionable dealing with

(02:06:59):
an illness, did not practice today.

Speaker 1 (02:07:01):
Get you get ten points and then Green Bay's got
to get twenty five. I mean, I don't know, you
get thirteen points. I gotta score four touchdowns. I mean
they don't have score four, But you get what I'm saying. Yeah,
I just think in the NFL, fourteen and a half
is just massive, and more often than not when it's
that big. I don't know the statistics on it, but
it seems like when the spreads get that big, more

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often than not, somebody covers.

Speaker 2 (02:07:26):
Backdoor covers are so easy when the number is that big. Yeah, Yeah,
that's what I mean.

Speaker 1 (02:07:30):
But I do think even with Kyler Murray now practicing today,
if you are just joining us on the show, Kenny
Moore is out, but Alec Pierce is back and he
is out of the concussion protocol, So it looks like
Alec Pierce is a go. I think the Colts have
a big offensive day. I'll say thirty one to twenty

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Colts out of year thoughts.

Speaker 2 (02:07:53):
I've got the Colts doubling them up twenty six thirteen. Okay,
that's fair. Should we Lupinjing and VBC what he thinks?

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Speaker 5 (02:08:22):
I did?

Speaker 8 (02:08:23):
Yeah, yesterday made that pick? Oh you can, I don't care. Hell,
we didn't check in with one another like a couple
with dorics.

Speaker 3 (02:08:32):
Mike.

Speaker 4 (02:08:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:08:35):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (02:08:35):
What's on the big program today?

Speaker 8 (02:08:37):
John, We've got Hagen's going to join me here live
loaded up show. I know Charles Arbuckle is going to
join me a little bit later on Bob Lovell High
School Football Friday Night. It's a big deal obviously, the
pairing show coming up on Sunday. I didn't want to
give a shout out Brooks. Barneiser is going to play
a role at some point with a Thunder as a rookie.

(02:08:59):
You know, he's get a lot of minutes so far
in the preseason. The Thunder here in town tomorrow to
take on the Pacers in the preseason and Lafayette Jeff
stand out, Northwestern stand out. His dad's a really good
friend of mine, Mark Barnheiser. So that'll be worthy of
watching or listening to as a stands ninety three to
five and one oh seven five tomorrow night. And Jake,
I you in Oregon big tomorrow at three point thirty.

(02:09:21):
You know, it's funny this is going to end, certainly
not this early, but I use always going to have
to prove itself. And this is something that the Pacers
have to do. They're having to do it again this year.
They had to do it last year.

Speaker 3 (02:09:33):
Aaron E.

Speaker 8 (02:09:33):
Smith mentioned that on media Day, always having to prove yourself,
and I think that that sometimes can give you an
edge because you were always on guard for a lack
of a letdown. You don't want that letdown out to
let all the other jack sticks out there be right,
this is a big game.

Speaker 3 (02:09:50):
In terms of that.

Speaker 1 (02:09:51):
I mean Kurt Signetti uses that, right. I mean Kurt
Signetti I think has that kind of chip that is
just fueled into his players, and that's really a big
driving force. See for Indiana, Right, there's no doubt about it.
I think that it works.

Speaker 8 (02:10:04):
I always thought that as much as you can play,
and players will tell you this is if you can
always go out there and find measures and means and
which to motivate, it's always a big damn deal. And
I think you can find that basically every week. The
Pacers find that every single game, every single year, and
then the Colts are going through that process or proving
themselves right now, off to a four and one start.

Speaker 1 (02:10:26):
You always know when John's on location, it's a big
damn deal. And that's why we will throw it out
to him here in just a couple of minutes. All right, John,
enjoy the week half over the show today. All Right,
that's an awesome place.

Speaker 8 (02:10:36):
Let me know about McCartney because lady is going to
Des Moines next week to see Cortney.

Speaker 1 (02:10:40):
Okay, cool?

Speaker 3 (02:10:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:10:41):
Now it is tomorrow night in Denver, and I still
don't know whether or not I'm ubering, or whether or
not I'm getting picked up at the airport? Eddie, Do
I have a legitimate b for my being petty?

Speaker 2 (02:10:52):
I think you're being a little petty, do you I do?
What if?

Speaker 1 (02:10:57):
What if?

Speaker 2 (02:10:58):
Though?

Speaker 1 (02:10:58):
I'm literally every single time that her brothers have come
to India.

Speaker 2 (02:11:04):
I picked them up the airport. That speaks more about
you than it does then, I think, Jake, I think
that's entirely my point, and Jake your point. Another point
here Friday night, they're gonna be out at dinner. You
know ten o'clock. You never know ten o'clock. I mean,
beverages could be consumed here, Jake, and we don't want
people getting behind the wheel after consuming beverages.

Speaker 1 (02:11:24):
Listen, they're going to like Golden Corral, They're not.

Speaker 2 (02:11:27):
I mean, you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (02:11:29):
Come on, all right, Eddie, you said, what was your
prediction twenty six thirteen?

Speaker 2 (02:11:33):
Yes, okay? What about for Indiana Oregon? Ooh, I have
to go Oregon. Unfortunately, I think it's a I think
it's a bar and burner. I think these two offenses
are gonna put up some points. You have Oregon winning
thirty four thirty one. You know what, why not Indiana? Baby?

Speaker 1 (02:11:49):
Indiana wins thirty one twenty eight over Oregon? My pick,
You're gonna miss me next week. I mean, I just
went out on a limb once with Oregon. Let's not
go twice?

Speaker 2 (02:11:59):
Right? You are going to Florida. Is that right, yep,
going to Florida for a week.

Speaker 1 (02:12:03):
Yes, all right, enjoy travel safely and we will talk
to everybody on Monday. We'll talk to Eddie a week
from Monday, it would appear, but you folks have a
wonderful weekend. John's up next. Thank you for listening to
the Quarry Company.

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