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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Now, Eddie, you probably noticed today when I came in
that I was a little fatigued. I don't know if
you can tell it. I mean, I naturally radiate energy
and good looks, but today I probably do. I look
a little more sluggish. Let me let me.

Speaker 2 (00:15):
No, not really?

Speaker 1 (00:16):
Okay, good, I don't You can't tell that I that
I overslept. Did you ever have one of those days
where you thought you set the alarm and then all
of a sudden you wake up and you're like, what
in the world this morning and you set it for
PM instead of AM? Or something like that.

Speaker 2 (00:27):
I just I don't know what happened either. I slept
right through it. It didn't it didn't go off. I'm
not sure you know, was it the AMPM, et cetera.

Speaker 1 (00:36):
So admittedly today I'm a little, not totally, but just
a little off, okay, And it's not because I was.

Speaker 2 (00:47):
Is it because that you know that I'm gone the
entirety next week and you're you're already missing me?

Speaker 1 (00:51):
Is that what it is?

Speaker 3 (00:52):
No?

Speaker 1 (00:52):
Actually, it was mostly planning fun stuff. But I was
up late last night and I was It wasn't because
I was late and it was late and I was
staring at the ceiling, saying to myself, what are the
Colts going to do now that they don't know what
quarterback they're going to be facing on Sunday? Are the
Colts in troubles?

Speaker 4 (01:13):
The wrong word?

Speaker 1 (01:14):
But how do you go about the variation of because
there's a dynamic difference between the way the Arizona Cardinals
can look if Kyler Murray is taking snaps or Jacoby
Brissett is taking snaps. I mean, it goes without saying
that literally as we know when for the Colts and
Colts fans know this that that is the difference between Okay,

(01:35):
am I taking out this weekend the Lamborghini or am
I taking out the Honda Civic. The Honda Civic is
probably the more efficient of the two, but in terms
of getting somewhere quickly, the Lamborghini is the better option. Right,
And so the Cardinals have those different looks that you
may be coming in with and we have to continue
to monitor that. And then I thought to myself, and
that wasn't why I was up late, But as I

(01:58):
was driving in and realize that I, you know, overslept,
and you would think maybe it was because I was
perplexed by what's going to happen with the Pacers because
of the fact that they had an injury already in
one preseason game. And then I'm thinking to myself, well,
Delan Wright, I know he's a guy that I was
intrigued by that can play some point guard minutes. But

(02:20):
what would happen if they were to get rid of
him or not get rid of him that came off
the wrong way. If they decided that they didn't want
to go in that direction he got injured in preseason
game number one? Could they make a trade? Is there
somebody out there that they could sign it as a
free agent? Could they simply do a wave and sign
and then lo and behold, Eddie, I come in and

(02:40):
you informed me that. Guess what happened just as I
was arriving today.

Speaker 2 (02:46):
Yeah, the Pacers made a move today. Shortly before an
hour or so ago, they announced that the team has
signed Cam Payne to a training camp contract where number
fifteen in case you were wondering, And in a subsequent move,
the team has waived delonn Right. Okay, now here's the thing,
and I would like to Delan is fine. He tweeted

(03:08):
out that he got ten stitches above his eye and
then three stitches on his elbow.

Speaker 1 (03:13):
I'm a little bit. I'm a little torn. I'm a
little torn because I think that we should talk more
about campaign on the show, but at the same time
we try not to talk politics, so that that in
that aspect that becomes a bit of a challenge. Stop.
That was bad. Stop Eddie. Do you ever just stop

(03:35):
and thank yourself that you have access to this sort
of just non stop cycling going on up here? No,
I don't the reason today, the reason except for the
fact that you got me onto Java house.

Speaker 2 (03:45):
That that's the only thing I'm thankful for.

Speaker 1 (03:48):
Thank you. The reason today that I am not tired,
but why the overnight was shorter for me? I was
up till the wee hours of the morning. Were you
popping champagne? I was popping champagne, buddy. I was up
all night. I was celebrating. I was spraying champagne. I

(04:11):
was playing cool in the gang. I was all in.
I put on my hat, I'm ready to go. Let's go,
Blue Jays.

Speaker 2 (04:19):
How did Boo react to this champagne popping?

Speaker 1 (04:22):
Boo was right there with me, And let me tell
you something. It is hard to pop champagne without, you know,
the additional thumbs. But nonetheless, as a bandwagon fan, thumbs
apposable thumbs. Thank you. As a bandwagon fan that has
not been a died in the wall, watched the Blue
Jays every inning since approximately nineteen ninety five. Listen, that

(04:45):
bad boy was moving past that bandwagon and I'm like,
I am all in. I bought my hat earlier this year.
I went and I saw them play at Fenway, and
I saw that Alejandro Kirk that looks like he might
be a cartoon character, and I thought, this guy's fun.
And then he hit a double last night and he's
r in the bases and secured me a case of beer.
Listen that he did. They eliminated the New York Yankees.

(05:07):
It was fun, right, it's fun unless you're a Yankee fan.
To the rest of baseball, it was fun and the
Cubs keeping things alive. I'm all in on the baseball postseason.
But we are doing a game shy.

Speaker 2 (05:19):
Between the Mariners and the Tigers.

Speaker 1 (05:22):
Yead decisive Game five, right, But the bottom line is this,
We're doing a show in Indianapolis, Indiana, and in Indianapolis, Indiana,
Major League Baseball playoffs. Most people listening to my voice
right now become a fan of baseball, like like myself
two and a half three weeks ago. So it is
in our best interest to stick with the topic that
we began with. But let me say that he'll tell

(05:42):
you all of the situation, right, Jake, It is because
the reality is this. If you are to own a
delicatessen and you know that ninety two out of one
hundred people coming in are looking for turkey or turkey
sandwiches or ham, then you better be able to provide
turkey and ham and League Baseball is a good pastrami sandwich.

Speaker 2 (06:02):
Now, what about chicken?

Speaker 1 (06:04):
I would say, chicken probably is in there. Here's the thing,
excellent question. During the PACER's run, chicken becomes right there,
as right alongside turkey, right, but it right now? Is
the chicken right now is? Probably it's an undressed chicken.

Speaker 2 (06:21):
Now does the chicken come before the egg?

Speaker 5 (06:25):
No?

Speaker 1 (06:25):
I think the egg comes first, right, No, Actually the
chicken comes before the egg because when all the animals
were created, you created the animal first and then how
it reproduced a second. So I say chicken before the egg.
But nonetheless, Colts are the primary topic. Good afternoon to you.
My name is Jack Quarry, Eddie Gerson. The other voice
you just heard it is Quarry and Company here on
ninety three to five and one oh seven five the fan.

(06:45):
And let's begin with the Colts because of the fact that,
as I'd mentioned, Arizona coming in and you you shift
away now from you know, there's a lot that you
look towards with Arizona of that topic of who's going
to be throwing the football, And it is interesting that

(07:07):
Marvin Harrison Junior is the dynamic player, at least on
paper for Arizona, but they really have not. He's just
started to get going a little bit and maybe some
of that is just a combination like he had was
it not this week but last where Marvin Harrison Junior,
I mean he they were on primetime and he got
off to.

Speaker 2 (07:27):
The first seattle.

Speaker 1 (07:28):
And there was that conversation of like, what you know,
when is this going to get going? I think it
kind of is now we know of his skill set,
but now we wonder who it is that's going to
be getting the football delivered to him.

Speaker 2 (07:41):
But maybe kiro Mooe, you didn't practice yesterday nay with
a toe injury.

Speaker 1 (07:45):
He's got a sore foot, right foot injury. And listen,
have you ever stubbed your toe?

Speaker 6 (07:50):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (07:50):
Yeah, that's rough. The reality is this, we are five
games into it, the Indian Applus Coults are four and one,
and no one thought, including myself, this was going to
be the case. But you are inching into territory now

(08:10):
of Okay, whether it's Kyler Murray or Jacoby Brissett, whether
it's you know, if they're getting ready to go in
and you know, name the opponent you're looking for reasons
of well, yeah, but regardless of the strength of the opponent,
regardless of who is starting, if the Colts play their

(08:32):
game and protect the football, then it really is irrelevant.
Like it, I keep going back to this, I keep
going back to this point. There are you know that
your team is trying to find itself when you look
at schedules and you're looking for areas where they can

(08:53):
get a win. And literally in the course of a month,
we have gone from that with this franchise to looking
at places where you wonder where it is that they
could trip up because they are and I know it's
just five games and it's a dangerous thing to get into.

(09:13):
It's dangerous. It's dangerous to start getting into and overthinking
and assuming that you are in fact in the upper echelon.
But the league is set up would that be the
upper curtile or the upper quartile of upper courteils, which
is rare air. The league is set up for parity,

(09:33):
and the league is set up for quick turnarounds because
of the way, more so than any other. And that's
why the NFL is the eight hundred pound gorilla, because
every fan base feels and knows at the beginning of
each season that they had a high draft pick. They
have somebody that that you know, their schedule now is

(09:56):
better than a year ago because they had a down year,
and so therefore they get a the two game swing
of easier games on the schedule, and that makes them
feel optimistic, et cetera. That's what it's set up for.
And yet this franchise seemingly has not been able to
capitalize on that, and it has not fallen in their
favor because quite frankly, in certain areas, they've swung and

(10:18):
missed on draft picks when they have been able to
draft high, or they simply went out and got the
wrong players in free agency or padded areas in and
areas that at the time were not necessarily needed, et cetera.
And it's now all come together and it's just five games,
and you try not to overthink it. But we've seen
it here before where things turned around and turned around

(10:41):
quickly on a dime, and all of a sudden, you're like,
wait a minute, this is surreal to me. But I
think the Colts actually might be good. And it happened
in ninety eight, it happened in twelve or you know whatever, Yeah,
twelve in the twelve season. But and it's happening potentially again,
where you look at it and go, I don't think

(11:01):
this is simply schedule assisting them. I think they are
legitimately good and that's where they are right now. Now.
There are areas that are of question, there are areas
that are of concern, and I guess the question I
would have for the Colts fan base would be, this

(11:23):
is quarterbacks still one of them? Are you, the Colts fans,
it's been five games, it's been a very high level.
Are you convinced that Daniel Jones is in fact the guy?
Or are we seeing a guy who is going out
taking advantage of a new situation, taking advantage of the

(11:47):
right scheme being called, and taking care of the football
and has not had a lot of adversity. And we're
going to see what happens when all of a sudden
there starts to become which is gonna happen eventually, You're
gonna have injuries, You're gonna have, you know, just overall
challenges that take place, You lose a couple of games,

(12:10):
you know, whatever it may be, a receiver goes down
the line, whatever. As that starts, do we need to
see that before we can truly assess Daniel Jones? Or
are we convinced that this is in fact the guy.
It's only five games, I keep saying that, but only
five games, Before you know it becomes only ten games,
only fifteen games, and then before you know it, you're like,

(12:32):
wait a minute, maybe this is the right combination, the
right fit, and the Colts have to make that decision
at some point to determine whether or not this is
the long term answer. But I'm curious whether or not
at any people are at this point ready to say
I have seen enough, I have enough evidence I'm ready

(12:54):
for my verdict. Or do you think people are still
cautiously optimistic but have in their mind the remnants or
the memories of other quarterbacks in the past where we've
done this, and you be it in Indianapolis or elsewhere
where you say that's the guy, you push all in
on it because there's a danger there in the NFL,

(13:15):
you push all in on the wrong guy and then
you're back to square one.

Speaker 2 (13:19):
I think fans are buying in the fact that this
team can be illegit. You know, AFC South contender to
win it, but just because they haven't faced Jacksonville. Yes,
you have to see how that plays out. And we
still don't know what Jacksonville fully is. Like they beat
Kansas City on Monday nine, and could that have been
in situation Jake? We see this from time to time,
and I understand their pro athletes, but like Kansas City,

(13:39):
for example, they have Detroit this week. Could they have
been overlooking Jacksonville because they have Detroit coming up and
they were looking more towards the Lions than they were
the Jaguars. And this was a short week, So think
are you starting the preparation early for Detroit? Kind of
at the end of you know, last week. I mean,
there's the questions there, But with the way that the
Colts have been able to dominate their opponents, I think

(14:00):
is the most encouraging part, because these aren't games where
you're just squeaking by some of these teams that aren't good.
You are dominating them to the point where there's conversations
of when, okay, when do I get Anthony Richardson in?
When do I get the second string guys in? When
do I get my starters out? Those are the encouraging
aspects to this. Now that, of course they do get

(14:21):
lucky with the win against the different Broncos, and they
made way towe any mistakes against Los Angeles, but that's
the nature of the NFL.

Speaker 1 (14:30):
Here's the thing, Eddie. The NFL is different, I think
to a great extent than college or even like say
the NBA, you know, whatever other sports that we discussed,
because the NBA, I think is very or the NFL,
excuse me, is very regimented. College is as well. But
it's it's the difference between professionals obviously in collegians and

(14:51):
different but and there's also I think a lot more
disparity in college in terms of within the conference in
things like that. But in the NFL, I think there's
regiment and I think that we as fans, as media,
as armchair quarterbacks, we we put ourselves in the position

(15:13):
of assuming that athletes fall into the trap that we
do of Hey, like, we what do we do on
this show? On this show, we scoreboard, watch and we schedule,
predict players.

Speaker 2 (15:31):
Do we we entertain and educat it?

Speaker 1 (15:34):
Well, we educate and entertain in that order, yes, because
the educate we do more so than entertain. But with
the schedule itself, I think that it is very It's
very easy for people to say, oh, gosh, they're four
and one, and then they if they beat Arizona, then
suddenly they're you know, and they're five and one, and
then what's gonna happen if he gets the Chargers and
then you come back and you get this. I think

(15:55):
with players, they will tell you that it is a job.
I know that sounds crazy, but it's still a job
for them, and they are just very regimented to Okay,
we get treatment on Monday, we get Tuesday off, we
come back on Wednesday, and we had gone over a

(16:17):
little bit of film on Monday now and Wednesday we're
getting the introduction to what is going to be the
next game. We turn the page. Thursday, we get totally
into it. Friday we do a walkthrough, Saturday, we travel,
Sunday we play rent and repeat. And I think that
that regiment, that long slog of knowing that it's seventeen
weeks and I will tell you, I know the season

(16:38):
goes like that in a flash. But any walk of life,
any job that you're in, you get people that you say, like,
for example, what we do every day. And then I
look at people that have to present in a courtroom,

(16:59):
or have to perform a surgery, or have to you know,
whatever it may be, and I say to them, man,
I don't know how you do that, and they're like,
I've just done it. It's what I do. I've just
done it, and it just becomes And there's an element
of that in the NFL, where for players, I think
it's just like, hey, it's just part of the routine

(17:20):
of what we do, and I don't know that they
get as caught up in the analysis of all of that,
you know, But at the same time, for fans and media,
that's what we do. Right, And so in that regard
when you are looking at and trying to lay out
the way that it works for them, for the Colts,

(17:45):
you know, again I go back to that point. It
comes down to the quarterback play. And that's not a
knock on. I think one of the things that's hard
about this team and this year is Eddie, when you
talk about the way that the Cults are playing, the
consistency they're playing, the fact that they are indeed, I mean,
they're probably the best, like the biggest surprise story in

(18:06):
the NFL, right, I mean literally nationwide. There are teams
you know, maybe Kansas City not getting off to a
better start is is big a surprise to some people,
or Baltimore, But in terms of teams that you didn't
think would be there that are now you know, playing
at a high level, the Colts are probably nationwide the

(18:26):
biggest story, and it comes down to the quarterback play.
But the dangerous thing is you want to look at
it and say, if we're talking up Daniel Jones, if
we're saying that this is all because of you know,
what's the one variable that has changed the most from.

Speaker 2 (18:41):
A year ago. It's ability at quarterback.

Speaker 1 (18:44):
That and then you know, sure you could say they
went out and got veteran play in the secondary, but
but that that also has been completely interrupted by attrition.
So yes, it is stability at the quarterback play. And
to praise Daniel Jones, to credit Daniel Jones, and to

(19:05):
analyze Daniel Jones is it's at times I realize that
it can feel like what we're doing in that is
in some way, shape or form critiquing Anthony Richardson or
doubting Anthony Richardson. And then Anthony Richardson talking about, you know,
being asked the questions of would he be up for
a trade and he says no, like I feel the

(19:26):
love in Indy. Okay, Now, is that him saying I
feel the love in Indy because he feels truly like
he has been appreciated and respected by the fan base here,
or is he saying that as a power play to
the organization itself of like, look, I'm still a loved figure.
You know, I'm somebody I'm not going to go away.

(19:49):
You know, I think it's the former. I think he's
just simply being a nice guy and saying, look, the
fan base here has been good to me. This is
where I want to be he's saying the right things.

Speaker 2 (19:58):
Or Jake, is he feeling the love from the front
office in the organization.

Speaker 1 (20:04):
I think if you're a player, you feel the love
when they call your number. They can I realize that
they are kid gloving him a little bit in terms of,
you know, hey, we have no interest in trading Anthony
Richardson and we still believe in him, etc. They but
they are now in a position where if and this

(20:27):
is a big hypothetical, if the Colts elected to go
with Daniel Jones simply because they wanted another year of
stability for Anthony Richardson to observe to see what is
expected of a quarterback before they hand the reins back
to him. If that were the case, it's not. If
that were the case, then you do it, and you're like,

(20:51):
wait a minute, though, this is working and clicking and
all coming together far more so than we thought. And
so therefore do they have to look at Jones and say, Okay,
is he going to be Sam Donald to Minnesota where
you have him for a year, he has a great turnaround,

(21:16):
becomes a solid, reliable player, But you have the air
apparent waiting in the wings to come back to hand
the Reins back to and Minnesota decided to make that move.
And Sam Donald's now in Seattle and he's playing at
a decent level. Is he a you know, is he
lift you to the Super Bowl quarterback? I don't know

(21:36):
about that, but he's solid. But Minnesota also, I think,
thought to themselves, A, we have an era apparent that's
younger in the wings, and B this was never by
design going to be a long term marriage with Sam Donald.
And the Colts are in if they so choose, they

(21:57):
could be in the same situation. But I get the feeling,
I get the impression that the fan base in particular
is at the point already through five games of saying,
let's not screw this up, let's not let's let this

(22:21):
play out. But I think most of them are starting
to lean towards he is in fact the guy Now?
Is he again? Is this Cinderella is Midnight coming? I
don't know, because I think if you look at New
York when he was with the Giants, and when Daniel
Jones played at a high level and took care of
the football, which one of the biggest things in his

(22:44):
tenure as the Giants quarterback, that was hard to come
by was an area or a period where there was
stability of taking care of the football. He was a
turnover machine. But when he played the bat I remember
watching Daniel Jones in New York at one point and saying,
this guy's a pretty good player. I see now why
you know, out of Vanderbilt, which is not a football factory,

(23:06):
why he was selected high. I like his athleticism or Duke,
excuse me, I like his athleticism. And so therefore, you know,
coming off of playing for a coach at Duke that
had been a quarterbacks coach and was thought highly of
the Mannings and all of those things, right, and so
coming out of Duke, when you looked at him and saying,

(23:26):
that's not a football factory. And I watched him a
little bit in the acc right because I follow Clemson
and thinking, okay, this is in fact a guy that
is showing some signs. But then that was when he
had Saquon Barkley, and Saquon Barkley when he speaks highly
of Daniel Jones, says a lot to me. So now

(23:48):
he comes in here and Jonathan Taylor is a similar
type player. So they have managed to put him in
a situation that mirrors the situation that he had in
New York when he was at his best. But they
have to figure out whether or not that is a
long term or short term situation. But it's a good

(24:11):
problem to have. It's better than having it where you're like, man,
what in the world are they going to do? They
are now left for nothing, which I think is what
everybody thought, right, everybody thought coming into it, like, look,
they're gonna be seven and nine and the right back
to square one. I said, ten and seven. They're going
to be better than ten and seven unless the wheels
fall off here, bottom line. And part of that is
because they're getting solid play from each and every player

(24:33):
when their name and their number is called. And one
of those guys, Eddie, did you say that you're scouring
through right now to see if somebody might be able
to join us over there?

Speaker 2 (24:42):
Yeah, I'm trying to see if we need to get
some teen crumpets.

Speaker 1 (24:46):
Really?

Speaker 2 (24:46):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (24:47):
Does that mean that we might be taking a player
that has spent time in England? That is indeed the case.
There is a player who's had a circuitous route to
land him in Indianapolis, a player that is like ash
taking advantage of every possible situation that comes his way
and making plays for the Colts when it matters, most

(25:08):
exemplifying what this particular version of the Colts have become,
not unlike the version of the Pacers that everybody just
fell in love with in town. And by that I
mean guys that are coming in and saying I need
to do what is best, not just for this team,
but to simply take advantage and wait my turn and
then make plays. And I believe we're going to talk

(25:30):
to one of those guys. He is essentially an Ashton
Dooland type. When his number is called, he's there, and
I think we're going to dial and call his number
and see if he answers. And he spent time in
England and he's now with the Colts and we will
bring him into the program and we'll do it next
Also on the program today, Taylor tannebo I'm going to

(25:51):
join us later on in the show. You ask why, Well,
not just because Taylor's fun and we love being from Indy,
but or working in Indy. But this situation with Bill.
Bill is crazy, honestly, like like I don't know and
I realize who cares about North Carolina football. Don't care
about North Carolina football. But Belichick is obviously a guy
that you look at and you're like, what the hell

(26:12):
is going on there? He's got this young girlfriend and
it's just a disaster so far. Is it a disaster
or does it need to get more time? Taylor Tannebaum
acc Network going to join us on the show. We're
going to go to Arizona, do our road trip, find
out what's going on with the Cardinals. We will do
that at one o'clock. But when we come back inside
inside the Colts locker room, one of their players joining us.
Next Colts and the Cardinals coming up Thursday edition. By

(26:37):
the way, Quarry and Company, thank you for joining us.
My name is Jake Quarry. Eddie Garrison the other voice
you hear on this program. We call it Querry and Company.
And as you folks know, we always have those that
are listening in the audience, we assign them a title
within the company. Eddie, I am super excited because you
know what we don't have. We don't have a director
of economics. We don't have a director of stock trading.

(26:58):
That's what we need on this show. In this company, right.
So what better guy to do exactly that than one
that joins us from West fifty sixth Street. He is,
of course an Indianapolis cult He had a big block
punt against the Las Vegas Raiders. He is also a
linebacker for them. Shagu Alubi joining us on the Java House.
Peel and poor guest line Shagu, how are you?

Speaker 7 (27:18):
I'm good man, that's good, and that good to be here.
That's funny.

Speaker 1 (27:20):
Okay, so let's begin with that. Are you cool with
being the director of economics and day trading?

Speaker 7 (27:25):
Yeah, we can get it done.

Speaker 1 (27:26):
Then. I'm sure I used to do a little bit
in college, although at this point you're a little bit
busy in your primary day to day job. All right,
So I want to begin with this. You know, your
story to me is fascinating, and for those that are unfamiliar,
obviously I think everybody knows by now. But you came
here by way of the San Francisco forty nine ers,
where you were an undrafted free agent, and you have

(27:47):
found your way within this roster of doing every little
thing that needs to be done, no matter what is
called upon you. And I've talked a lot on this
show about Ashton Doolan and how much respect I have
for Ashton Doolan because he just is the guy that,
when it's necessary, does what's needed to be done. Do you,
number one take that as a compliment? And number two,

(28:07):
what is the mindset of just kind of having to
find your role within a franchise?

Speaker 7 (28:14):
Yeah, I mean it's just being here. You have so
many great examples of that, you know what I mean.
It's the culture here, so just being able to follow
the success. You know, you look at guys like Dueling,
you look at guys like Zee, you look at it
like guys that will come through here. It's just every
man that does what they can to help.

Speaker 1 (28:28):
With your position. Obviously, you know you are a linebacker
by trade, you know, the will linebacker whichever way we
want to use the terminology there. But we now know
that the guy that you know was just in front
of you and Joe Bachi goes onto ir. They make
the trade. Now for Jermaine Pratt, you're right there as well.
Do you anticipate the reps and your role to be

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elevated within that position?

Speaker 7 (28:52):
You know, you always look to help another but any
way that you can, So you know, Jermaine come in
and he's a great he's a great guy for them,
he's been with them in the past. Provides leadership obviously,
you know what I mean, help with z you know.
And it's just looking for opportunities wherever they come up.
For sure.

Speaker 1 (29:06):
I want to get back to kind of your story, Shagud,
because I think it's it's a fascinating one and quite frankly,
and I don't mean this condescendingly, it's an inspiring one
because you know, and you know this. I mean, there
are so many guys in the NFL that were five
stars that we knew about and we've known about them
since they were nineteen twenty years old. Okay, Now I'm

(29:27):
going to give for our listeners, and you stop me
if I'm incorrect in any of the information that I've
accumulated from various sources here. Okay, So you were born
in Pennsylvania. As a kid, you lived in New Jersey,
You lived in Minnesota, lived in Arizona, lived in London
in England, came back, lived in Arizona, lived in California,

(29:48):
then went to college in Idaho, went to college in Arkansas,
back to college in California, and then into the NFL.
Now that's a very circuitous route, and so my first
question would be, do you believe had it not been
that kind of a path, that you still would have
found your way into the NFL Or did having to
kind of go those extra steps drive you to the

(30:10):
player you've become.

Speaker 7 (30:13):
Yeah, looking back on it, there's opportunities where I think
if I could have got placed as sooner or could
have did things a little bit differently, But ultimately my
goal was to just taken an idea from every place
that I went along the way and just added to
my game. You know, whether it's learning how to be
a leader, learning how to watch film from a guy
like Nate Moore, learning how to pull your trigger from

(30:34):
Jacory Nichols, you know what I mean, learning how how
to be a dog like from Tayok you know me
and over in San Diego State, just every step along
the way of adding something to your game.

Speaker 1 (30:44):
When you walked on at San Diego State, there were
probably people that didn't know your story but you did.
Was that similar to the situation that you found yourself
in the NFL of having to kind of prove yourself.

Speaker 7 (30:56):
Definitely there's parallels there, you know, I'm grateful for that
to me, to have been able to go on through
a situation like that before I got to because it
just caught me that you put your head down and
things go the way that you want them to if
you work hard.

Speaker 1 (31:08):
You know. So what point, let's get to this. You
said in college you did a little bit of day trading.
Now my understanding is one of the schools you attended,
I think it might have been Hearting, I'm not sure,
but that you you were looking for like an economics
course that they didn't offer, and so therefore you transferred
back out again. Maybe that's embellished, I don't know. But
how did you get into the trading part of it?

(31:30):
And what about it intrigues you?

Speaker 7 (31:33):
Yeah, I'm just I've always been a person that love
seeing growth and so being able to start an investment
portfolio with like ten dollars and then it's actually up
to about like twenty one hundred. Now I haven't touched
that initial portfolio. I kind of left it alone and
allowed it to do its thing. Is that, you know,
as like a momento to myself. But yeah, just seeing
like the opportunity for growth is one of those things

(31:54):
that I've always.

Speaker 1 (31:55):
Loved Okay, so you started with ten bucks and then
you just put it in a rainy day fund, and
now at twenty one hundred.

Speaker 7 (32:02):
Well, it wasn't really a rainy day fun. It was like,
you know, let's see what we can do with the
ten dollars.

Speaker 1 (32:06):
You know that's pretty cool though, right, Yeah.

Speaker 7 (32:10):
Yeah, for sure. Yeah it's been going steadily. Man, I
think at it. Over the course of the time, I'll
edit up to three hundred, and then from then it
was just purely growth.

Speaker 1 (32:19):
Okay, fact or fiction. When you were in college or
at some point along the way, you were working at
five Guys. Fact, So how do you not weigh three hundred?
Because I would I mean you know what I mean,
like I'd be I would have been eating five Guys
every single day, and I.

Speaker 7 (32:35):
Was, oh, man, my manager it was funny if my
manager actually he didn't eat at work, so he used
to just put his meal in for me too, because
he knew I was going to eat.

Speaker 1 (32:44):
So now, wait a minute, here's my thing. Every time
I go to five Guys, they have the sign that
tells me where the fries are from, and they're always
from Idaho. And you were at collegized. Is that did
you work at the Five Guys in Idaho?

Speaker 7 (32:56):
No, that was in Orange County, California.

Speaker 1 (32:59):
Okay, I was going to because otherwise you just you
could have just gone out back to get the potatoes.

Speaker 7 (33:06):
Right, Oh exactly.

Speaker 1 (33:08):
Hey, what do you most like about Indianapolis? I mean
you've obviously been kind of to all parts. What are
you most like about Indy?

Speaker 7 (33:15):
Uh, the family vibe. It's not just in the building,
you know, you get around the people in the community,
like people are accepting and loving out here. I think
people are authentic and real, which is something that can
be hard to find.

Speaker 1 (33:25):
You talked about growth. Shaegu Alubi is our guests. He's
on the Java House peeling poor guest line. You talk
about growth, you know, for your money and just your
story in general represents exactly that this particular team and
you've been around it. I mean, this is not your
first year in Indy, so you've seen kind of this
team grow and blossom, and you guys are obviously off

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to one of the best starts in the league. What
has been the difference.

Speaker 7 (33:51):
Ultimately? I think it's just you know, sometimes it's Tommy
an opportunity, you know, We've had good players, you know,
when I've been here, and we've had you know, a
good coaching you know, and it's just sometimes things got
to marry up in the right way. And that we're
seeing that happen on Sundays.

Speaker 1 (34:03):
This year, the you know, the and I realize the
other side of the football, so different meeting rooms and
things like that. But Daniel Jones has been as you know,
jegu I mean, you're aware of this. He has obviously
been a major story in a positive way for the
Colts this year. Quarterbacking sometimes with leadership, I think that
we envision that the quarterback is the one that everybody

(34:25):
gravitates towards and he's the one that's giving the raw
rod chance and everything else. What kind of a leader
have you been able to see that Daniel Jones is?

Speaker 7 (34:35):
Yeah? Just consistent execution, right, Like, you look at a
guy like Daniel, he's not super big into the raw row,
but you can look at him and see that confidence
that's there, and then you can see the consistent execution
that makes guys, you know, believe, and when you have beliefs,
guys play hard. You know.

Speaker 1 (34:48):
So, okay, what about on your side of the ball,
you know the guy that well, I'll just say, I'll
ask you this, who is your defensive leader.

Speaker 7 (34:57):
We know Ze to be a vocal leader for us,
but there's multiple players on our defense that are our leaders,
whether it's you know, DEFO. I mean realistically, like, we
have so much good leadership in sen on defense that
it's not just one guy. And that's kind of one
of the things that we have as an advantage.

Speaker 1 (35:12):
Yeah, I the Forest Buckner is the guy that it
seems and obviously Zira Franklin, Right, it goes without saying
that Franklin based on tenure and just the fact that
he is so reliably there, right, But Buckner is also
a guy that, it seems as though from the outside,
is the one that's not afraid to speak up, so
to speak. Is that a fair assessment. Yeah.

Speaker 7 (35:34):
When so something needs to be said, buck isn't afraid
to say it at all, you know, And I think
that's true for a lot of guys on our defense,
which is, like I said, part of what makes us
so good because Cam bind him the same way.

Speaker 1 (35:44):
Okay, So Cam Binham is a guy that you have
a lot of experience with, right, because you go beyond
just the walls of West fifty sixth Street and your
experience with cam Bynham correct.

Speaker 7 (35:57):
Yes, yeah, me and him went to the high school together,
so that's all. I was really awesome to be able
to see him and be teammates again.

Speaker 1 (36:02):
Who was the better player in high school?

Speaker 7 (36:07):
I say you, he said, He might say me. I
might say him. You know, that's this kind of guys
we are. But you know, I'll probably go with camp.

Speaker 1 (36:14):
It is it surreal to be And I would think
this is true for anybody, but I'll ask it just
for you in particular. Is it still surreal that you're
in the National Football League?

Speaker 7 (36:28):
Every day? I walk in every day, walk in the
locker room every single day, look around and see, Like
I mean, when I first walk in, usually I see
tread you know, and so I see LaQuan Treadwell. And
I remember watching Lakwan in college and then watching him
in the league, and like, you just see different guys,
you know, and it just reminds you. Look around the building,
you see how people are. It's surreal every single day
and I try not to take it for granted.

Speaker 1 (36:49):
And with that the at what point in your career
did you realize that the NFL was a distinct possibility.

Speaker 7 (37:00):
I remember it like it was yesterday. It was my
freshman year of high school of college. I was sitting
in my college dorm when I was watching an NFL
game with my roommate, and I just remember sitting there
and I was like, man, I watched some guy and
I think he got completely cooked. And I was just looking.
I was like, you know, I think I could do it,
at least that, you know what I mean, Like, I
think I could do better than that. And so I

(37:21):
just remember that I changed my Twitter handles to the
league and then kind of just started working on it
from then.

Speaker 1 (37:27):
And once you got into like the situation, for example,
where you get a key block punt a special teams
play like that, right, I would think being in particular
in special teams can be a challenge because you only
get so many opportunities out there to make the name,

(37:48):
to make your footprint, to impact the game, and so
you have to make sure that you're not over rushing it,
overthinking it, getting too zealous and letting the process take
care of itself on a play. Now, that's me a
rate talking. Is that me way overthinking the mindset of
what you have to be in the NFL.

Speaker 7 (38:06):
No, I mean it's pretty simple, like you just line
up and execute your job, and then the big plays
happened because you were prepared and you were doing what
you were supposed to do. Like, you can't really go
big play hunting because that's when you get out of position.
I mean they'ad the are too good, you know, Like
you can't sit there and try to capitalize on something
that isn't there.

Speaker 1 (38:22):
But doesn't that kind of symbolize your entire journey.

Speaker 7 (38:26):
Absolutely, you know what I mean, Like like.

Speaker 1 (38:30):
You just had to go through the process, right, Yeah.

Speaker 7 (38:34):
It's taking advantage of the opportunities when they're there, but
you can't rush the process. I think that's true for
a lot of guys in this league.

Speaker 1 (38:40):
What's your favorite thing to do when you're not and
during the season. I realize, you know, you're pretty committed
to what you're doing, but when you're away from the facility,
when you're away from practice, when you are just kind
of kicking your feet up, so to speak, chegu Alubi
is doing what to pass the time?

Speaker 7 (38:59):
I like to travel, you know, I like to travel
around a bit. And then if I'm not doing that,
I'll probably be doing yoga or boxing like I don't
like to do active things like that.

Speaker 1 (39:08):
How long do you live in London?

Speaker 7 (39:10):
We were there for a brief stint, probably like a
few months, a couple months, you know what I mean.
I'm trying to get things situated back here.

Speaker 1 (39:18):
Have you been? Have you been back there since? I mean,
didn't have any sort of an impact on you?

Speaker 4 (39:23):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (39:23):
I travel I traveled there pretty as often as I can.
I was just there this last summer visiting my cousins
and friends and stuff.

Speaker 1 (39:30):
Do your cousins have British accents? Yeah, of course I
have a wonderful I have. Eddie loves this. I have
a wonderful British accent. Now, Shae, can you can you
critique my British accent for me?

Speaker 7 (39:42):
All right, let's give it a go.

Speaker 1 (39:44):
Yeah. I was watching Indianapolis Coach of the Week and
and they had a guy that he brought upont foot
against it right is? And then before I knew the
Colts just pulled away. What do you think?

Speaker 7 (39:55):
I think it sounds like it makes the different reasons,
but you know it's better than.

Speaker 1 (39:59):
Some Yes, yes, now here's the thing though Britt would
immediately be able to call me out as opposer, wouldn't.

Speaker 7 (40:06):
They in different places? For sure?

Speaker 1 (40:11):
It's it's cockney, that's what That's what I'm going for. Idea.
I have no idea what that means, but I like
saying it. You know what I mean? All right? Shake Alubi, Listen.
We wish you the best of luck against the Arizona
Cardinals coming up. If you guys gotten a chance really
to dive in yet, I would assume that yesterday was
probably when you really started to look at tape on Arizona.

Speaker 7 (40:30):
Oh yeah, we've been on it. We've been on it
since Monday. Shoot, how do you.

Speaker 1 (40:34):
How do you prepare for it when a Kyler Murray say,
you know, we don't know if he's going to play.
He's a dynamic playmaker. You got to have an eye
on him at all times. But you don't know if
it's going to be uh, you know, whether it's going
to be Murray, whether it's going to be Jacoby Brissett.
How do you, guys, what is the approach when you
don't know the status of a quarterback?

Speaker 7 (40:51):
I think it just you just add more time, right,
like as much time as you can squeeze you're gonna
you're gonna focus on on both guys. You know, obviously
the time I've been you know, you can't discount it back,
and we always have a plan in place for either guy.

Speaker 1 (41:05):
Well, Seagu, we wish you the best of luck. Man.
I appreciate the time. It's always a pleasure to speak
to the guys from over there, and we certainly wish
you the best of luck. Coming up in h Lucas
Oil Stadium on Sunday against Arizona. We look forward to
watching it.

Speaker 7 (41:19):
Awesome man, Thank you for having me.

Speaker 1 (41:20):
Yeah, good day. Then see see how I did that?
Eddie h Scheague Alubi joining us on the Java House,
Peel and poor guest line. Lots still to get to
over the course of today when we come back. There is,
in fact, as we mentioned off the top, a change
in things at Gambridge Fieldhouse. We'll explain next. Thank you

(41:41):
to schegu Alubi for joining us on the show. Heading
out to Arizona a little road trip we're going to
be doing that. The Cardinals are coming here, but we
will go out to Arizona coming up about ten minutes
from now. Pacers have a change in their back court.
The Lon Wright, who was one that I actually thought
was going to be somebody that could, you know, fill

(42:03):
that role as just kind of the number three backup, backup,
if you will, point guard. But within this offense, obviously
everybody kind of gets a chance to get through, especially
earlier in the year. But he was and I don't
think it was because of this. He was shaken up
in game preseason game number one, he received ten stitches
after a collision on the court. But he was released

(42:25):
by the Pacers today and they have already gone out
and decided to try their luck elsewhere. In terms of
that position, it is Cameron Payne that now comes to Indiana.
He most recently spent time, I believe is a Knickerbocker.
Am I correcting that, Eddie?

Speaker 2 (42:41):
That is correct?

Speaker 1 (42:44):
Campaign? Who has played. I'm just gonna keep saying Cameron
Payne because every time I say campaign, I started thinking
about all those commercials that take place. He's been, you know,
kind of bounced around the league, Phoenix, Milwaukee, Philly, most
recently New York, but now going to get his chance
the former Murray State player. The general managers of the

(43:06):
NBA did a survey Eddie that you were just telling
me about but you did not tell me the results
of said survey. Give me the category and I will
tell you where the Pacers slot, or that those related
to the Pacers in what you were reading.

Speaker 2 (43:19):
All right, there's a total of forty nine questions. Yeah,
this was just released on NBA dot com. Let's start here, Jake,
in the Eastern This is a survey of all general
managers in the league and then they tallied up the votes. Right, yes, okay, yes, okay,
So go ahead with the category and the Eastern Conference rankings.

(43:39):
Where do the Pacers fall? They only dow top eight.

Speaker 1 (43:45):
Okay, I'm going to say the I'm going to give
you teams that I'm certain would be ahead of Indiana,
and we'll see how quickly I run out. You ready,
So I'll give you the team. You just tell me
where they slot. New York second, Orlando third, Cleveland first,

(44:07):
Boston eighth, Milwaukee tied for fifth. Okay, oh, Detroit tied
for fifth? Did I say Orlando already?

Speaker 2 (44:22):
You did?

Speaker 1 (44:23):
Okay, I'll go with how many have I mentioned so far?

Speaker 2 (44:29):
You've mentioned Cleveland, New York, Orlando, Detroit, Milwaukee, Boston.

Speaker 1 (44:35):
Okay, So I'll say, now Indiana, they are not in
the top eight. Okay, so there's one team that I'm
looking for above them. Okay, surely this wouldn't be the case.
Chicago New Miami New. I think Miami deserves some consideration.
They're strictly based on their coach. I mean, after that,

(45:01):
everything's at dumpster fire, right.

Speaker 2 (45:02):
The I think there's an obvious one, and I think
there's a team that nobody really talks about a lot
that's going to shock people with how good they will
be this year. All right, hit me who's the obvious Philly? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (45:18):
See, I strongly disagree there, although I realize if healthy, Yeah,
that's fair.

Speaker 2 (45:22):
They're all healthy to my knowledge right now.

Speaker 1 (45:24):
So that's why I say.

Speaker 2 (45:25):
But again, I mean, okay, Atlanta, Atlanta fourth in the
GM survey. Really hm, okay, let's see no players in
this one. But who do you think they predicted will
win the MVP. This was a pretty much unanimous sixty
seven percent of the votes went to this guy, Luka doncic. Yep,

(45:47):
that is correct. Let me scroll to another one. Oh
most likely active player to become a head coach. McConnell
tied for second with Mike Conley. So there was a
player that was in front of them. Yes, bam, out

(46:10):
of BYU. Nope, hit me Chris Paul, the most overrated
point guard in the history of the NBA.

Speaker 1 (46:19):
Everybody like Chris Paul is the final piece for a
championship for fourteen different franchises, all of which then got
beat in the conference finals.

Speaker 2 (46:28):
Which player would you want taking a shot with the
game on the line?

Speaker 1 (46:32):
Oh, I mean if Tyrese Halliburton is not number one
in this category after what he just did in the postseason,
then every single one of these gms needs to never allowed,
never again be allowed to do this.

Speaker 2 (46:46):
With thirteen percent of the votes, Tyrese Halliburton third on
the list, okay behind. Now here's the thing, I don't
consider the top guy. I don't really know the top
guy for clutch shots. I know of a couple, but
not a lot in his career. Hit me Stephen Curry fort.

(47:07):
I mean, he did hit a pretty big one in
the Olympics. That's fair, Okay, yeah, that one?

Speaker 1 (47:11):
And then uh, I mean just the fact that if
he's open, you know, you feel pretty good.

Speaker 2 (47:15):
Okay, last one, Jake, before we have to hit a
time out here, who is the other player on that list,
who Kevin Durant, Who is the best point guard?

Speaker 1 (47:21):
Rant?

Speaker 2 (47:22):
Who is the best point guard in the National Basketball Association?

Speaker 1 (47:29):
Are they considering Luka Doncic a point guard?

Speaker 2 (47:31):
They are indeed?

Speaker 1 (47:32):
Okay, then I would put uh shake Gildess, Alexander Luca
Jalen Brunson.

Speaker 2 (47:40):
Yes, yes, No, Haliburton, Stephan Curry third, Tyrese Haliburton fourth
Lifetime Achievement Award.

Speaker 1 (47:49):
Uh do you happen to have Eddie and he? Are
you going with peanuts or the little cookies on our
flight that we're about to take.

Speaker 2 (47:55):
Oh, pretzels? Can I do pretzels?

Speaker 1 (47:57):
Sure? You can do pretzels. Okay, we're gonna take a flight.
We're gonna go to Arizona. We're gonna talk to somebody
from Azcardinals dot com. Thank you Darren Urbin joining us
previewing Who's coming to Lucas Oil Stadium next, Eddie? Have
you been to the Greater Phoenix area? Out of curiosity?
I have not.

Speaker 2 (48:16):
I would love to go out there. I've heard great
things about It's fabulous.

Speaker 1 (48:20):
There's it is. It's awesome. First off, the now they
tell me, you know, in the summertime. Obviously, no it's
a dry heat gets a little toasty. But I'm no bugs.
There's not a single bug in the state of Arizona's
you know that because of the lack of humidity or whatever.
It is. No bugs, no spiders. Well you do get that,
and then there's the occasional scorpion. But in terms of
let me, no airborne bugs, no mosquitoes, no nothing, No skeeters,

(48:45):
no skeeters, that's right, No nuisance, no gnats, nothing. I
don't know. Maybe some of that is. So then how
are you welcome there? We'll find out what's that?

Speaker 2 (48:52):
Are you welcome there?

Speaker 4 (48:53):
Then?

Speaker 1 (48:54):
Thank you? Darren Urban joins us now on the Java
House Peel and Poor Guest line. He is with acardinals
dot com. Darren, is that true there are no bugs
in Arizona?

Speaker 5 (49:05):
Well, again, I know that you just mentioned scorpions, which
to me is a pretty I sometimes I wish I
might have a mosquito when I've seen the scorpion on
the wall in my house, But generally, no, there's no,
there's no not a whole lot of flying bugs. There's
definitely not very many mosquitoes, and that has to do

(49:28):
with the fact that it's one hundred and ten every
day in the summertime.

Speaker 1 (49:31):
So yeah, how big are scorpions?

Speaker 5 (49:33):
By the way, Well, that's the interesting part about the scorpion.
The smaller the scorpion, the more dangerous it is. Actually, really, yeah,
the venom tends to be nastier if they're smaller. But
most scorpions or I don't know, maybe maybe a couple
of inches, maybe a little less than that.

Speaker 1 (49:52):
Like how often are you seeing them? How like? Is
this something that like once in the lifetime of a
house you see a scorpion or is it a regular
thing in the course of say the winter.

Speaker 5 (50:02):
It depends. It depends on where you live in the valley.
The older, the older neighborhoods tend to not have a
whole bunch of them because they they've been there. But this,
this valley has grown so much in the last twenty
thirty years that there's a lot of building out in
where it has been traditionally desert for the longest time.

(50:22):
So that's where they tend to be. So and I
did not expect to have this many scorpion questions today.

Speaker 1 (50:28):
I'll be up. So that's what we do, all right.
So now, so we'll get to football, then the Cardinals
and the Colts coming up Sunday Lucas Oil Stadium. Let's
get to the meat of the matter first, and that
would be Kyler Murray and his availability. What are we
hearing at this point?

Speaker 5 (50:43):
The Cardinals are saying he's day to day. He didn't
practice Wednesday, were before practice today, so don't know if
he's going to be out there, and the coach Gannon
doesn't talk until tomorrow again, and so we won't really
get any kind of other update other than whether he's
out there or not and whatever's on the injury report,

(51:06):
So we'll see if he's out there. I mean, obviously,
if he's a DMP again today, you wouldn't think that
that would be trending in a great way. But I
would think it would take the entire week of what's
exactly going to happen, because you know, he's been around
this offense. If he was able to practice some on Friday,

(51:26):
maybe that opens a door for him. So well, we'll
see where it is today and tomorrow. But I mean,
obviously it wouldn't have been brought up, and Gannon, who
doesn't really like to talk a lot about injuries, did
bring it up. Before practice yesterday. I mean, I think
Jacoby Brissett is absolutely in play for a possibility of
playing this weekend.

Speaker 1 (51:45):
Okay, and let's go to that. Obviously, in Indianapolis, we
are familiar with Jacoby Brissette, right, And I know in
Arizona one of the expected big playmakers has been Marvin
Harrison Junior since the time that he was acquired there,
and you know, there have been there's been inconsistency, but
I think we know how good he can be. How

(52:07):
does Arizona's offense change in terms of the playbook essentially
or schematically if it's preset and not Kyler Murray.

Speaker 5 (52:18):
That's a good question. I mean, obviously we haven't seen
Jacoby yet in this offense when it matters, I mean,
obviously played a little bit in the preseason. I think
Jacoby is a little bit more of your standard kind
of stand in the pocket quarterback. So in theory you
could see a possibility of them being able to throw

(52:42):
the ball down the field a little bit more. I
don't think that necessarily is something they've done a lot
of with Kyler for whatever reason. It's not the kind
of can't, but I would just I mean Kyler's ability
to scramble obviously is not there with necessarily with Jacoby Brissett.
So you could see more Harrison, you could see more
of the receivers. But I'd be fascinated to know. I mean,

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this offense, this offense came into the season and the
way they played the last two years, it was based
on a really good running game and it was all
going to be playing off of that, and unfortunately for
the Cardinals, between the injuries at running back and not
awesome play on the offensive line and some injuries there,
that running game has not been there. So when you

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have an offense based on the running game and it's
not as effective as you were hoping, that tends to
have a trickle down effect. And I think that's what's
happened to the Cardinals over the first five games.

Speaker 1 (53:36):
You know, in looking at it, Darren Trey McBride has
played well for them, for example at tight end right,
And I don't know you would know obviously better than
I whether or not he has been a focal point
for them or is that kind of you know, it
seems like we're seeing a league that is getting more
involved with the receiving tight end. Does Arizona do that

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because of what is available there, or is it almost
most out of necessity because the other areas that the
offense haven't gotten going yet.

Speaker 5 (54:06):
Well, I think I think Trey McBride gets the targets
he gets and is the impactful player that he is.
I would say eighty percent of that is because he's
a great player, and he's essentially their best He's their
best pass catcher.

Speaker 3 (54:20):
He just is.

Speaker 5 (54:21):
So when you have somebody as good as that, and
I think when the offense is clicking, I personally believe
that Trey McBride is absolutely in the conversation for best
tight end in the league. Now, I know not everybody's
going to see it that way, and part of that
is how the Cardinals are, but I believe that. So

(54:41):
I think most of what McBride gets is because of
how good he is, But there is a necessity, a
necessity part of it. You know, Marvin Harrison is continuing
to try and figure out his spot in this league.
He's played really well the last game and a half
and it seems like he's finally trending in the direction
that they need him to trend in the rest of

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the receivers have not been very impactful. But I don't
know how much of that is really them and how
much of that is how this offense has struggled, and
maybe some issues and pass protection and maybe the idea
of using the running backs as pass catchers. So but
getting back to your original point, I mean, I don't
think anybody would look at this team and not say
that Trey McBride is the number one pass catching option.

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I will see where how Marvin continues to develop in
that way. But I mean, if Marvin gets to the
level that they want him to and Trede plays how
he's been playing for two years now, that's a pretty
nice one two punch.

Speaker 1 (55:39):
Darren Urban is our guest Azcardinals dot Com, where you
can read his work. We're previewing, of course, coltson Cardinals
coming up Sunday, Lucas Oil Stadium. Darren, there probably have
not been a lot of matchups in the history of
the NFL that feature two teams that have had players
that have dropped the ball just prior to the goal

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line on what was expected to be a touchdown. Now
in Indianapolis, that player, Ady Mitchell, then essentially was relegated
to the bench. He did get in at the end
of the game against Las Vegas, but he was disciplined
for it. Arizona handles that situation how.

Speaker 5 (56:15):
I think that's a great question. I mean, part of
the Cardinals situation. I mean, with all due respect to
Ady Mitchell, you've got other receivers that you're using.

Speaker 1 (56:25):
In correct, different position. They're running back correct.

Speaker 5 (56:28):
And with the Cardinals, they their top two running backs
are James Connor and Trey Benson are both on ir
Amar de Mercado, the player that dropped the ball, has
been their main third down back. They can use the
other two Michael Carter, who's been in this league and
Bam Knight, who's a little bit younger, but he's been

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around a little bit. You know, could they get more work.
They absolutely could. I don't know if the Cardinals are
in a position where they can just afford to say Omar,
you're not playing, because he also play a lot of
special teams. But you know, we'll have to see where
it goes. It's been it's been such a weird five

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games for this team. Every single one of the Cardinals
games has come down to the final and essentially the
final possession of the game. That's part of it. And
they won those first two. These last three, they've literally
lost on the final play of the game each time.
There's just a lot wloting around and the Amari thing

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just to be the cherry on top and the conversations
around it. You can't have that happen, you know. I
know that, you know. Not Surprisingly, the coach coaches for
the Cardinals, which I'm sure was true for all the
other thirty teams around the league, all showed video of

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A d Mitchell the previous week last week, So for
that to have happened after all the coaches, I'm sure
the league saying don't let this happen. That's a tough look.
But what that looks like on Sunday, we'll have to see,
Johnson Gannon said. At this point there, it was asked
if there was going to be any repercussions for him.

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Gannon said, no, I don't know what that exactly looks like,
because I think the original sense of the question was
probably more like would you cut them? But we'll have
to see exactly how it plays out on Sunday.

Speaker 1 (58:27):
What is Arizona's defensive strength?

Speaker 5 (58:33):
I think right now their defensive strength continues to be
the defensive line. They worked really hard to upgrade that
the front seven overall, actually, and they've played really good defense.
I mean, now, one of the reasons everybody's so frustrated
out here is because defensively they've played well enough to win.
If their offense had just generated any kind of semblance

(58:55):
of regular scoring, this team very easily would be five
and zero right now.

Speaker 1 (59:01):
Now.

Speaker 5 (59:02):
We can say that about a lot of stuff and
a lot around the league. So you know, Bill Parcells,
you are what your record says you are. But defensively
they've played well. Unfortunately for them the last three weeks,
they've had a chance to really put an exclamation point
on that defensive performance in any of one of those
games to potentially stop these game winning field goal drives,

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and unfortunately they have not been able to on those
final possessions. But overall, they've played really well defensively, and
I would not doubt that whether Kyler plays or Jacobe
Prisette plays, this game this weekend is going to be
about how much the defense can hold the Colts in check.

Speaker 1 (59:39):
What is their defensive achilles? What is the area that
Indianapolis can look at offensively and say there's susceptibility here,
let's exploit it.

Speaker 5 (59:50):
That's a good question, I would say. I mean, the
first thing that pops into my mind is if it's
a close game late, you might be able to move
the ball late on them, because that to me, The
biggest issue that the Cardinals defense has had is that
they haven't gotten those last stops. I mean, I guess overall,
you could probably say they have a younger secondary, but

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I think for the most part, the secondary is held
up and they have gotten pressure most of the time
pretty well. Joshwaz got five sacks already. Their defensive line
has played well, even though they've had a couple of injuries.
So I guess I would say the secondary, it's been tough.
I know the Seahawks ran on them, but generally teams
have not been able to run on them.

Speaker 1 (01:00:33):
Do you ever hike that Camelback Mountain? By the way,
I have.

Speaker 5 (01:00:38):
Done it twice, I think, oh, in my many many years. Yeah,
I've done it a couple of times.

Speaker 1 (01:00:44):
Like it's kind of a must new but it gets
hot as hell right in that right if you like,
if you don't time.

Speaker 5 (01:00:47):
It right, well, if you're if you're dumb, enough to
go in July, then that's pretty much on you. I mean,
I wouldn't be I wouldn't be hiking something if it's
not you know, November to maybe early May. That's that's
when I would be doing that hiking. But then again,
that's when everybody's going to be out there. Maybe if

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you want to go in July when nobody's out there,
that's fine, but you know, if you end up having
a toll somebody to come rescue you, that's again on you.

Speaker 1 (01:01:15):
Now, for those that don't know, by the way, just
outside of Phoenix is came on Back Mountain and you can,
I say, hike it. I mean you can. It's basically
rocks and then it's not overly arduous, but it is
pretty awesome because you get to the top you can
kind of see I like just saying the valley. I
don't even know if that's in the valley, aron I
just like we live in Indiana, so everything to me
is in the valley, right.

Speaker 5 (01:01:36):
Yeah, that's that's in the valley. Came Back Mountain is
basically right around the Scottsdale Phoenix area. It is it
is kind of in the center. If you get to
the top I mean one of the times I climbed
it was actually back in the day, the Cardinals had
a strength coach named John Lott, and when the rookies
first showed up, and it was the summer, it was

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real early morning. But I accompanied them one time when
he would take the rookies out there and climb it
a couple of times during the off season, and they
go to the top of Hacked John Lott would run it,
actually run it up and then run it down. Sane
sounds dangerous.

Speaker 1 (01:02:18):
As yeah, that's that's insane. Now I'm curious before we
let you go. Darren Darren Urban as our guest. He's
on the Java House Peelingport guest line Azcardinals dot com,
where you can read his work. When the Cardinals to
me are an interesting franchise because it's an interesting area,
because it has become such a transi in other words,
it's you know, it's obviously a beautiful and a fabulous

(01:02:39):
area of the country. So therefore, seemingly a lot of
the population of Arizona is from elsewhere, and perhaps they
have their favorite team they grew up watching, and so oh,
let's go to the Cardinals game because they're playing my broncos,
et cetera. But they've been there for a while now,
since coming from Saint Louis. Is it now an entrenched
end in rooms, part of the Phoenix lifestyle and culture,

(01:03:04):
or is it still a franchise that is trying to
completely be embraced, if you will, by the market.

Speaker 5 (01:03:11):
Well, I mean, I think I think it's much more
entrenched than it was. I think you've had a generation
that live here that grew up and the Cardinals have
been here the whole time, so you do have that help.
I mean, there's still going to be fans from other places,
but I think you find that in a lot of places.

(01:03:33):
I mean, some of these legacy kind of franchises are
always going to have fans well.

Speaker 1 (01:03:38):
And I think I say that more about the growth
and the evolution of the city than the franchise itself,
you know what I mean. It's just such a place
where who wouldn't want to live there?

Speaker 4 (01:03:48):
Well?

Speaker 5 (01:03:48):
And again, you're right, there's a lot of people moving
in here all the time, and it just depends and
there's still lots of people that are fans of other
teams for sure. But I've also run into a bunch
of people that are said. You know, I was a
fan of another team, but I moved here, and after
a couple of years, I'm like, you know what, if
I'm going to live here, I need to be a
fan of the home team. So it's grown like that.

(01:04:09):
But it's like anything else, like when you're when you're successful,
and this tends to be more as you move west
in this country. It's not just Phoenix, but when you're successful,
the fans are going to be there. And when you
know it's there's something to be said. I get the
fans in Cleveland and Pittsburgh that no matter what happens,

(01:04:31):
you're going to show up every week. It's there's a
lot to do out here, and there's a lot to
do in California, and there's a lot to do in
Washington State, where it's like when you struggle, it's it's
going to hard. It's harder to keep people's attention.

Speaker 1 (01:04:42):
Yeah, I mean, obviously they've been there. You know, it's
essentially the same as the Colts, right, I mean they
what they got during what eighty eight is that right
somewhere in there eighty or eighty nine?

Speaker 3 (01:04:50):
Yes, yes, yeah, eighty eight.

Speaker 1 (01:04:51):
Been there longer than they were in Saint Louis and
closing in on as long as they were in Chicago. Hey, listen,
Darren certainly appreciated travels safely to Indian app and look
forward to watching what happens on Sunday.

Speaker 5 (01:05:03):
Thanks for having me, guys.

Speaker 1 (01:05:04):
Darren Urbanazcardinals dot com again on the Java House Peel
and poor guest line, you said, Eddie yesterday you tried out,
by the way, the liquid science correct.

Speaker 2 (01:05:13):
Very good, solid. All their stuff is really good, Jake, And.

Speaker 1 (01:05:17):
I'm having to start to like keep it up on
lock and key here, right, because you broke into my
Wrangler stash the other day the energy.

Speaker 2 (01:05:23):
Drink, right, I didn't break into anything.

Speaker 1 (01:05:26):
Java House dot com where you can see all of that?

Speaker 2 (01:05:29):
Do you know where you live?

Speaker 1 (01:05:29):
Though? So, and by the way, I'm curious of this,
so I think, and you don't know this yet, but
somebody's gonna have to do cat duty for me on Saturday.
I'm leaving tomorrow to go to Denver just for the weekend.

Speaker 2 (01:05:45):
Can't be me, Jake, I leave for my vacation tomorrow morning.

Speaker 1 (01:05:48):
Oh that's right. Okay, So here's the thing.

Speaker 2 (01:05:50):
What about Zybersover. I know he's around here. I believe
he's a cat guy. Yeah, I think Caleb's in the mix.
My sister.

Speaker 1 (01:05:57):
You know, my sister has got a lot going on
right now, so you know, I might put her up
to this. Of course, she has a lot going on.
Typically it would be Shannon, but she's going with me.
We're going to Denver, and I'm curious of this. Jake.

Speaker 2 (01:06:11):
Just make sure you clarify on what kind of coumanies
you want when you go there.

Speaker 1 (01:06:14):
Please, I'm not bringing that's all you man. We're gonna
go see Paul McCartney on Saturday Night, right, Okay, And
I mean I'm a McCartney like. I'm not like some
diehard I'm not Mike Chapel, right, I love the Beatles,
But I mean I realize it's Paul McCartney now, and
he's been you know, he's I've had several people Michael Young,

(01:06:38):
tract dude, Michael Young. He's a huge Paul McCartney fan,
and he's like, yep, I won't see him anymore because
you know, he's just not the same. I mean, I
get it right. I think it's mostly a singalong concert
and I'm just one of those I'm like, look, the
opportunity to be able to sing along Hey Jude with
Paul McCartney. I just want to do it once. I

(01:06:59):
want to do it once. But I'm curious for anybody
that has seen Paul McCartney in concert. I have not.
I've been to a lot of concerts. I've not seen
Paul McCartney. For anybody who has seen Paul McCartney in concert,
is this like how much of his fastball does he
still have? I think, you know, he's a remarkably youthful

(01:07:21):
looking and sounding guy and everything else when you see
interviews in it. But getting out onto a stage and
doing the show, I am genuinely curious for anybody. And
we're going out there because Denver is Shannon's hometown, so
I mean she actually leaves today, she's on her way
there now, right now, and we'll get out there before
I do. And we're going to be back. I mean

(01:07:43):
we're literally cracking on Sunday morning back and then Colts
and Cardinals on Sunday. But genuinely curious from anybody shoot
me a text or let me know, send me a tweet,
whatever it might be, whether or not, like, am I
going to go out there basically and be like, what
in the world is happening here? Or is it? Do

(01:08:04):
you think does it still? Does he still have the
same flow, the same energy, the same sound that he did,
say ten years ago. I'm not expecting to go out
there and feel like I'm watching the Beatles in nineteen
sixty five. Don't get me wrong, right, Jake saw Paul
McCartney twice in the last ten years. Both were amazing concerts,
not just sing alongs. The guy has an incredible amount

(01:08:25):
of energy and performed tremendously. That's cool?

Speaker 3 (01:08:29):
Is that?

Speaker 1 (01:08:31):
Do you think that's the overwhelming sentiment? Do you have
a favorite Paul McCartney song Eddie do you not? Or
Beatles song m.

Speaker 2 (01:08:41):
Hey Dude Solid? You know, I hadn't heard it until,
you know, last year.

Speaker 1 (01:08:47):
There's no way, there's no way that you were that
the that I introduced you to. Hey, Jude, that is
legitimately impossible.

Speaker 2 (01:08:55):
No, it's possible.

Speaker 1 (01:08:58):
How many times have you listen to it since? You see?
There are three things that I've introduced you to that
I think deep down you are actually thankful for. Okay
them one huh we know? Number one Fast Time's a original?
The Java House peel Pods, right yeah, and then hey Jude,
right yeah, twist and shout probably and wait until you

(01:09:22):
see Shawshank once. Once you see Shawshank, you're gonna be like, yeah, okay,
can I tell you something?

Speaker 7 (01:09:29):
M hm.

Speaker 2 (01:09:30):
I was scrolling through the TV Guy the other day.
I think it was sad last Saturday, okay, and I
was scrolling through. It was like, hey, look, Shawshank just started.
I can watch this. And I was like, Olivia goes, no,
we're not watching this. I'm like, why, I've never seen it.
Jake swears it's a grace movie of all the time.
She goes, it's not that good.

Speaker 6 (01:09:52):
No.

Speaker 1 (01:09:53):
She was like, yeah, we're not watching this. So are
you using tender or bumble to find your next girlfriend?

Speaker 2 (01:09:59):
Neither? Neither Jake. So she did not watch it. She
just watched him. But she just doesn't understand.

Speaker 1 (01:10:08):
This from your only friend, Alec, I'm disgusted that Eddie
did not know Hey Jude before last year. Yes, I know, Jack.
We saw McCartney several years ago. I could not believe
the energy that he brought to the concert, and it
was a lot more than just to sing along. Hey Jake,
tell Eddie he needs to get divorced, not engaged or married.

(01:10:31):
Listen Shawshank may okay, now we only have thirty female listeners.
That's right, but I'm curious of money nine.

Speaker 2 (01:10:45):
We're still looking for thirty. I think yesterday we determined, oh,
Candice had already called, so we were back down to
twenty nine.

Speaker 1 (01:10:53):
Jenny yesterday texted me. Remember I said that we had
Jenny sent me in. Tell that's said that she was aforementioned.
So she is thirty. So we are sitting on thirty
of female listeners, we think, But among our thirty female listeners,
I would like if we have a female listener, for
a female listener to call in at two, three, nine,
ten seventy right now and let us know whether or

(01:11:15):
not Shawshank Redemption is in fact just a guy movie
or are there because that may be the case. It
may be it might mean that it's just a guy's movie.
I would like to know if there's a woman out
there that has seen Shawshank, their overall opinion of Shawshank,
and whether or not you're getting bum advice, because I'm telling.

Speaker 2 (01:11:36):
You good call Eddie about your girlfriend. It's overrated. Vic
in the company break.

Speaker 1 (01:11:42):
Room Tracy Forner the best, my spirit animal. My wife says,
Shawshank is a remote dropper. You gotta watch. Yes, Yes,
I'm telling you, I think we might actually have this
is stunning. More than thirty female listeners. Taylor Tannebaum, by

(01:12:05):
the way, is one of those. She's going to join
us coming up two o'clock. I want to get the
latest on this situation. I know that nobody here cares
about North Carolina or the ACC, but Bill Belichick and
everything that's going on there, I'm fascinated by it. A
couple of calls on that in terms of Shawshank and McCartney,
and we'll get back into the Colts conversation. We'll do
it all next Okay, so we got two things going

(01:12:30):
on here. I mentioned that I'm going to see McCartney
coming up Saturday at Coors Field in Denver and was
curious whether or not he is still kind of the
you know, am I going to be disappointed or is
it going to be good? And basically emphatically everybody has said,
like right here, he can't hit all the high notes,

(01:12:51):
but he puts on a heck of a show, two
and a half hours of singing you love all the
songs and will really enjoy Livin Let Die. I've had
several people tell me that about Livin Let Die, that
he really goes all out for that. I really want
to see it. So long as he plays Hey Jude,
then I'm cool with it. I mean, that's the bottom line. Okay. Now,
the other thing is Eddie just said that Shawshank, which

(01:13:14):
he has never seen. Okay, the other day he it
was on television and his girlfriend Olivia said, no, I
don't want to watch it because it is overrated. So
I then asked the question, is it possible that it
is in fact just a guy movie? Okay? So Nick,
I'll get to you in second on McCartney, but let's

(01:13:36):
begin with Jennifer. Now, Jennifer may or may not, because
we are in pursuit of female caller number. What are
we on, Eddie, We're sitting on.

Speaker 2 (01:13:44):
Thirty to thirty, and Jennifer's a previous caller.

Speaker 1 (01:13:46):
So Jennifer, you are among those thirty correct, yes, sir? Okay,
any chance that you could lie about your name and
we could just bump it up to thirty.

Speaker 4 (01:13:54):
One and well I go by Gritty Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:13:59):
That's it. And that here's the thing. I think last
time I asked you the same thing and you went
with gritty there, so we're still stuck on thirty. Okay, Jennifer,
you have or have not seen Shawshank. Eddie's not seen it,
and at some point we're gonna watch it together, so
no spoilers on it. But you have seen the movie
or you have not.

Speaker 8 (01:14:15):
I have seen the movie.

Speaker 1 (01:14:16):
Yes, on a one to ten. Now let me ask
you this, Jennifer, what would you get What is Jennifer's
like ultimate film? What is the ultimate measuring stick bar
number one film in Jennifer's filmography.

Speaker 8 (01:14:30):
Well, it depends if it's a comedy or a drama.
But if I'm thinking probably gosh, I hate.

Speaker 9 (01:14:37):
I really liked Fargo. I liked the whole story of
it and the accine.

Speaker 1 (01:14:44):
Okay, So based on that, if you're giving Fargo a ten,
you put Shawshank at what five? So you think it's overrated?

Speaker 9 (01:14:56):
It's a good movie, but I don't need to see
it again.

Speaker 1 (01:14:59):
You've only seen it once?

Speaker 3 (01:15:01):
Yep?

Speaker 1 (01:15:02):
Okay, so is it in your opinion? Would you listen
as a guy film?

Speaker 3 (01:15:08):
I would say so?

Speaker 7 (01:15:09):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:15:09):
Okay, all right, so we got one vote. You're getting
some support there, Eddie. Let's check in with Connie. Listener
number twenty five is Connie. Connie, how are you hi?

Speaker 4 (01:15:21):
I'm good, Thank you, Connie?

Speaker 1 (01:15:24):
What's just out of curiosity? It's a gorgeous day on
a Thursday. What's what's a what's a sunny Thursday? Other
than this radio program, which we greatly appreciate you making time?
What's Thursday looking like? For Connie? What are you out?
What are we out doing today?

Speaker 10 (01:15:37):
We are running over to Anderson to get Tony.

Speaker 1 (01:15:40):
Dos, Tony Dogs, and Anderson jeans.

Speaker 10 (01:15:43):
Yeah, Jean's drive in.

Speaker 1 (01:15:45):
Jean's drive in and Anderson. Okay, that sounds like actually
a fun trip. Okay, So, Connie, you have or have
not seen Shawshank Redemption?

Speaker 10 (01:15:54):
I have many times?

Speaker 1 (01:15:55):
And your gold standard of film is what movie?

Speaker 7 (01:16:00):
I know?

Speaker 10 (01:16:01):
I like so many different shows, but I probably like
the like the eighties Breakfast Club and sixteen k all
of that.

Speaker 1 (01:16:07):
Okay, you know, so if Breakfast Club or sixteen Candles
or any John Hughes film is the gold standard and
is a ten, you put Shawshank as.

Speaker 10 (01:16:15):
A what like probably a seven or eight. It's probably
better writing.

Speaker 5 (01:16:22):
Yeah, I like it. Okay, I thought it really good.

Speaker 1 (01:16:25):
Is it a guy film?

Speaker 10 (01:16:28):
My husband's one who introduced me to it. Probably wouldn't
have watched it without him, but I thought it was great.
And like I said, I've watched it multiple times with
him since, so I don't know if it's completely a
guy film.

Speaker 1 (01:16:41):
But okay, now, no spoiler, Connie, no spoiler alert. But
the scene, the scene where you go, oh my gosh.
Every time you watch it you still say, oh my gosh. Right, okay,
see Connie, Connie gets what I'm She's picking up what
I'm dropping, Eddie. Is what we're saying. Thank you. Connie
enjoyed the Conny by the way, from now on, Just

(01:17:01):
so you know, Connie, when you go to jeans, they're
now known as Connie Dogs. Okay, yeah, no problem. Yeah,
they're going to change him on the menu, Eddie. That's
what we do here. We have the power of that
within the company. All right, But let's go to Nick
real quick. Nick, what's up?

Speaker 8 (01:17:21):
Never better?

Speaker 3 (01:17:22):
Jake?

Speaker 8 (01:17:22):
How are you?

Speaker 1 (01:17:23):
I'm good? Have you called the program before?

Speaker 7 (01:17:26):
Nick?

Speaker 8 (01:17:27):
I have and we shook hands and talked about radio
at the State Fair when.

Speaker 1 (01:17:34):
You had your on site, And was I a nice
guy or was I jerk?

Speaker 8 (01:17:38):
Oh what a nice guy? I don't know that Eddie
would agree with that sentiment, but I don't work for you.

Speaker 2 (01:17:44):
Well, see, he acts nice to everyone else so that
he can boost his ego by asking people those types
of questions.

Speaker 1 (01:17:50):
Listen that trust me. Trust me, I'm running a huge
risk when I asked publicly to somebody was I a
nice guy or not? Because you just never know depending
on the day. Okay, Nick, you have seen paublack Barney
or you've not seen Paul.

Speaker 8 (01:18:01):
McCartney before we get to McCartney. Before we get to McCartney,
the leading woman in the Shawshank Revenge Shawshank is Rita Hayworth. Okay,
so I think you need to bring that into context.

Speaker 1 (01:18:17):
Well, here's the thing. No spoilers here, okay, but rockel
Welch is a pretty big lead in it as well.
Although you do actually see Rita Hayworth in terms of
a cameo, so maybe you are correct there right. As
a matter of fact, if I'm not mistaken, I believe
this to be correct. It was based on a short

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story that I believe was called Rita Hayworth and the
Shawshank redemption. I believe that's exactly right, So you are
probably correct there. Okay, So what am I going to
see Saturday night?

Speaker 8 (01:18:48):
McCartney? So I will try to give you advice to
go to that show, because there are certain people that
are just different human beings, and I think McCartney is one.
And the source that I have for that is I
saw Herb Albert, of the famed Herb Albert and the

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Tijuana Brass, who is ninety years old at the Palladium
in Carmel and was electric. And so if you know,
McCartney's got seven more years to be a great show,
so he doesn't even have to blow into a trumpet

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in order to perform for people.

Speaker 1 (01:19:31):
Have you seen McCartney? Yeah, how recently?

Speaker 4 (01:19:37):
Not recently?

Speaker 8 (01:19:39):
But my point is is that he actually seems with it,
that is active, and so like my like, I was
expecting the absolute worst at the Herb Albert show and
it was awesome.

Speaker 1 (01:19:54):
Okay, well that's cool. I mean, I listen, and that
is impressive. No, listen, it's impressive for any of them.
I mean, I can tell you you know, fifty three
feels different than forty three. I can't imagine eighty three
for certain, right, no question about that. But I'm excited
to see and then you know, I'll report back. And Eddie,
when are we doing our Shawshank party?

Speaker 2 (01:20:14):
You tell me, Jake, you're the one who said it
would happen, and I'm still waiting. Well, now that and
you can't put the fault on me here. If you
watch it and you consider it a masterpiece, will you
admit it or you now bound based on your relationship
to downplay it? Well, See, Jake, I was pretty forthcoming

(01:20:35):
and truthful about my review of Fast Times at Ridgemont High,
so I will be honest and upfront.

Speaker 1 (01:20:43):
Hey, Jake, Denver is beautiful. Enjoy it. If you haven't
been to the Red Rocks Amphitheater for a concert, it
is a must. I have been again, like I meant so.
Shannon grew up in Denver, moved here at the age
of nineteen, so she actually went to Columbine High School
before the trade of Columbine. But and her family is
all still not all but her brothers are still there

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and a lot of my friends from high school there,
So I have been. I've been fortunate enough to have
been to Denver a number of times. I've been to
Red Rocks, but never for a show. That would be
an absolute mud I mean, that would be a bucket
list thing to see a show at Red Rocks. I
actually looked at their schedule this year and there weren't
as many acts. That was overall of intrigue to me.
But beautiful area for certain, definitely a beautiful area.

Speaker 2 (01:21:29):
Do you think the rocks were not red enough?

Speaker 1 (01:21:31):
Jake? Is that why no listen? Red Rocks was? Actually
it's so it's coral rocks that are all around the
Amphitheater and that was part of the new deal after
it was I mean, it's ninety years old at this
point and it's it's unbelievable and one of the huge
boulder rocks at the top of it. When Shannon was
in high school, she and her friends climbed it, which
is highly illegal, and they didn't know it at the time.

(01:21:53):
I don't know they didn't know it at the time.
She has a picture of herself up on top of it,
and I'm like, yeah, okay, so.

Speaker 2 (01:21:58):
You got banish from his ac and Shake, and she.

Speaker 1 (01:22:01):
Totally right, She's climbing Red Rocks and I'm getting banned
for life from Steak and.

Speaker 2 (01:22:04):
Shake Matt made in heaven. Jake, look at that, you
two love birds.

Speaker 1 (01:22:07):
Well listen, that was the steak and shake at eighty
six and Westfield. It's now a crew car wash, and
strangely enough, I'm not allowed to go through there either. Really,
I'm just kidding. I was having a monthly pass or whatever. Gradually, okay, well,
come back the Colts. In terms of getting set for Arizona.
Is it possible It's going to be a look in
the mirror. I'll explain what I mean next. Colts Cardinals

(01:22:31):
coming up Sunday, Lucas Oil Stadium. And there is increased
possibility if you're just joining the program.

Speaker 2 (01:22:41):
Where have you been? I turned your mic on, even
though it was already on. I forgot to turn mic on.

Speaker 1 (01:22:46):
We were just talking to Darren Urban from the Arizona
Cardinals dot com and he was saying, Kyler Murray, you know,
there is increased possibility that, in fact, it will be
Jacoby Brissett that the Colts could face on Sunday. And
this just in.

Speaker 2 (01:23:04):
Kyler Murray not at practice again today.

Speaker 1 (01:23:09):
He has a toe injury and or foot injury up.
But you know he is a dynamic you know, I
think he's actually Kyler Murray might be Arizona's leading rusher
at this point, and part of that is by design.
I mean, they obviously put him in position to get
in space, and he's a dynamic quarterback. The way that

(01:23:30):
you prepare, I think is completely different if you know
you're going to face Jacobe Prissett. Obviously, let me rephrase that,
it's you prepare just based on this is our defense,
this is what we're going to do, and then you
see which one you're going up against. I don't know
that you like design entirely your defense based on the

(01:23:52):
anticipation of one versus the other. But Arizona in terms
of their offense and the way that they want to
do things. You know, Darren was saying, there's not the
body of work to know exactly what you get from
Jacoby Brissett, but you have a general idea. We know
here in Indianapolis Brissett is more of the ball control,
shorter yardage reception type quarterback. And look, we can put

(01:24:17):
poo Jacoby Brissette all we want from the time that
he was here in India in the fact that there
was nothing over the dynamic about him. But you know,
what clearly, the guy is a solid teammate and a
reliable player that you know what you're getting because he's
made a living in the NFL with different franchises. You know.

(01:24:38):
I remember talking to someone from an NBA standpoint that
had been in the league for a really long time,
and they they essentially said, yeah, I mean, let's be real,
I lasted an extra five years in the league just
by being a good teammate. I mean, there wasn't a lot,

(01:24:58):
you know, I was an end of the BA guy
by then. But if you are a good teammate that's
ready when your number is called, you can make a
good living for a long time. And Brissette probably is
there now. But I don't think schematically that you change
things a lot. But you're going to be going you know,
you're probably going to see more throws to the tight end,
even though Kyler Murray does that. Arizona has not been

(01:25:21):
able to really get their running game completely uncorked, and
Marvin Harrison Junior is just now starting to, I think,
show the traits that we anticipated or expected of him
out of Ohio State. He has been inconsistent, he has
at times because I do think that receiver, like we've
talked about with kicker, can become kind of a mental

(01:25:43):
position or a rhythm position, and so he has Marvin
Harrison to this point not found the stability or the
consistency that he had in college where he was a
walking first down. And it is interesting because if you
think about when he was in I mean everyone and

(01:26:07):
I get why, you know, I mean the narrative of
like the Colts need to I'm telling you right now,
Jim Mersey, They're gonna do everything they can to get
Marvin Harrison junior. R S loves Marvin Harrison junior. He
wants to reunite the man I get all that wonderful player.
But man, you were mentioning, was it Thursday night football,
Eddie where he had like two of the first three

(01:26:28):
passes thrown his way.

Speaker 2 (01:26:29):
Yeah, and then they pretty much had trouble getting to him.
And then late in the fourth quarter they're like, you know,
this guy's pretty good. You know, we'll just love the
ball up to him, see if he can catch it.
He comes down with two fifty to fifty balls, One
results in a touchdown that ties the game late in
the fourth quarter, and the other one set them up
to be in position to score that said touchdown, and

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then last week he leads the game off with like
a forty six yard reception and then the numbers nothing like.
That's just been the story so far through a season
and five games now for Kyler Murray and Marvin Harrison Junior.
They just seemingly cannot get on the same page. And
I don't know if there's some underlying metrics that we

(01:27:14):
need to look at from a statistical standpoint to say,
like maybe just the fact that his name was Marvin
Harrison Junior. We overhyped him a little bit and maybe
he wasn't you know, the greatest thing since sliced bread?

Speaker 1 (01:27:26):
This from Angie and Fisher's Shawshank is definitely one of
the movies that you watch whenever you are scrolling, you
cannot scroll past it. See. I also got a.

Speaker 2 (01:27:41):
Eddie put a ring on her finger this weekend.

Speaker 1 (01:27:43):
I got one of those. I don't know if it
was me or to you. That's a good question, is
that somebody saying that you need to put a ring
on it because they don't like Shawshank, or I need
to because we're going to Denver together.

Speaker 2 (01:27:55):
Somebody else said I've got Shawshank TV yard have never
seen it before watching because our show, well, thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:28:01):
You know what's weird is you know how you can
now with like DVR? You know you can you just
hit record and then it just saves. My DVR is
full of hoarders. Here's another one.

Speaker 2 (01:28:12):
Eddie needs to drop as fast as the Reds dropped
out of the playoffs. Shot Shank is a top two
movie of all time only for me, second to only
Here's uh not happening on the dropping her though not
happening Okay, Jake.

Speaker 1 (01:28:27):
I saw Dave Matthews at Red Rocks, one of the
best concerts ever matt and Avon. I think the cool
thing about seeing Dave. The only drawback I should say
I've seen Dave Matthews and Red Rocks is you're seeing
Dave Matthews. You know. I used to say that about shows.
I used to be kind of a concert snob where
I was like the Dave Matthews thing, I don't get it,

(01:28:48):
like people that travel around and see them all over
the place whatever else. And then I had this epiphany
where when I went to that show this summer with
my cousin and we went to go see the two
shows of Oasis in Manchester. And I know I've talked
a lot about that show, but literally one hundred thousand

(01:29:09):
people in this park, and I'm looking around and like
people were emotional, and now they hadn't played in twenty years,
but and that's their hometown, so it meant a lot
to people. But as I was looking around and I'm
seeing and I'm sharing in this euphoria with other people,
and then I realized what this song means to me

(01:29:32):
means something different to that guy and that woman and
that kid over there, but it means something to all
four of us, even though individually it might be a
different meaning, it is amongst the soundtrack that is paralleled
for all of us, and that unity and that experience
was It's a unique experience and one that you can't

(01:29:53):
just create out of nothing. And so therefore I understand
and I respect now, or have a better understanding in
respect out of people that when I would say, like
I don't understand why people tour with Dave Matthews are
the grateful Dead or whatever else, I get it because
being able to experiencing that common bond with total strangers

(01:30:14):
and enjoying the euphoria of a moment is very cool.
So I get it. I mean I joke about it,
but I totally get it. This from Anthony Shawshank a
top ten movie. Eddie, You're allowed to You are allowed
to watch TV without her. Yes, come by and at
some point we will do I am. I do think

(01:30:38):
Eddie as somebody who has grown up around sports and
been around it. I do think that you will watch
it and have an appreciation for it. I think you'll say,
you know, what's a great movie. Taylor Tannebaum is Do
we count Taylor as a female listener. No, she's with
the ACC Network. She is from WTHR Channel thirteen. She's
always a fun guest. We're gonna ask her shaw Shank,

(01:31:00):
and we're also going to find out what the hell's
going on with one of the coaching nemesis of Indiana,
Bill Belichick. We'll do it all next two o'clock on
a gorgeous Thursday in Indianapolis. For that matter, it's two
o'clock everywhere in the Eastern time zone. My name is
Jake Query. Eddie Garrison, who has not seen shaw Shank
is the other voice that you hear on this show.
We call it Querry and Company. James Boyd, who you

(01:31:24):
hear in the morning, is going to be joining us
just about thirty minutes from now. Get you up to
speed real quick on what is going on. The Pacers
have a new point guard in terms of their number
three point guard because they released Delon Wright, not because
of the injury he suffered in preseason game number one
where he received ten stitches, but they waived him and

(01:31:46):
they now have signed Cam Payne, who has been Cameron
Payne played a little bit of everywhere in the NBA,
most recently with the New York Knicks. He is in
the mix. As for the Colts and Cardinals, we just
told you Kyler Murray still not practicing with that foot injury.
We will Eddie, I believe Alec Pierce back on the
practice field. James Boyd will be able to give us

(01:32:08):
a complete update on who was in and who was
out for practice anymore.

Speaker 2 (01:32:12):
Was not practicing again today, so that's.

Speaker 1 (01:32:14):
Not good again a big one. So we shall see
and we will get caught up on all of that
coming up in just about thirty minutes. But joining us
now on the Java House Peel and poor guest line.
She of course from WTHR Channel thirteen, where she would
be known in Indianapolis, but also friend of the show
and now with the ACC Network and ESPN. Taylor tannebo,
I'm joining us. That was a huge saw you just

(01:32:35):
let out, Tyler Taylor, everything going Okay?

Speaker 9 (01:32:38):
No, I was laughing. I love the intro and I'm
just happy to be with you guys.

Speaker 1 (01:32:41):
You know, Okay, well, we're happy to have you. I'm
going to begin with this has nothing to do with sports.
I know that's shocking to you. Are you ready?

Speaker 9 (01:32:48):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (01:32:50):
Okay, Shawshank Redemption? You have her? Have not seen it?
I have, Eddie and I are having this discussion. Eddie
Garrison has not seen the movie. No spoiler alert. But
I'll begin with this. I'm not gonna lead the witness. Okay,
yes or no? It is a guy film.

Speaker 2 (01:33:10):
No, let me ask.

Speaker 9 (01:33:13):
You it like for like like for guys, like it's
just like a like a guy's kind of film, like
toward women.

Speaker 1 (01:33:21):
Like Beaches is a chick flick, right? So is Shawshank
a dude film?

Speaker 9 (01:33:26):
I don't think so. I wouldn't consider that.

Speaker 1 (01:33:29):
In Taylor Tannembaum's like movie listings, What is your give
me your krem De la Creme movie, the movie that like,
you know what I mean, that's the one that is it.

Speaker 9 (01:33:40):
You're gonna embarrass me, really, Shawshank is one of my
favorite movies. But you're gonna embarrass me on radio right now,
aren't you. I'm not embarrassed to say this. I'm first
of all, not an avid movie watcher. I'm much more
of like a docu series, watch a show binge it,
so it's sort of like a movie. I'm just like,
if you ask me if I fe movie, I probably

(01:34:00):
haven't seen it. My all time favorite movie is Twister,
Like I've seen it four thousand times. If it's on TV,
I'm watching it. If it's on an airplane, I'm watching it.

Speaker 1 (01:34:10):
Okay, So yeah, we're talking to the original Philip Seymour
Hoffmann version right, yes, the og. Now here's the thing.
I'm not gonna totally laugh so long as you agree
to this, okay, And if you don't agree with this,
then we're gonna laugh at you and mock you. Okay.
I don't disagree that it's great, but it's great in

(01:34:30):
the same form that's Saved by the Bell is great.
And by that I mean it's so cheesy you can't
quit watching, no question.

Speaker 9 (01:34:37):
And you know what happens at the end every single time.
But I'm gonna watch it every single time. Like there's
cows flying, they drive through a full blown house from
roof to and like, come on now, like the Twisters
look like they've been just like drawn in. It's pretty
good though, you know, as long as you look past
all that stuff, it's pretty realistic.

Speaker 1 (01:34:59):
Okay. So so here's the thing. It's a perfect segue.
And I actually it's interesting, Taylor because I texted you
and said, hey, can you come on? And you said sure,
And you didn't even ask for what it was for
the reasoning that I wanted to have you on. Now,
if you had to guess, what is the reason? What
is the storyline? What is the thing that I need
you to edge mcate me? What is it that what

(01:35:20):
is the story that I want to talk about?

Speaker 9 (01:35:23):
That Carolina is a bleep show?

Speaker 1 (01:35:26):
Bingo? So it is Twister right North Carolina football, And
again I realized we're in Big ten country. But Bill Belichick,
this is you know, this is the guy that I
don't need to tell people. Here the history of Bill Belichick,
and he goes to North Carolina and it has been
so far an utter disaster. So first off, give me,

(01:35:46):
you know, the the ninety second summary of just where
we are and how we got here.

Speaker 9 (01:35:52):
So how we got here as the end of last year.
Toward the end of last year, Mac Brown was relieved
of his duty. He's after a six and sixth season.
This is the Hall of Fame head coach and Matt
Brown who before anything else, the players come first, and
that's what he's known for. He's a people person. But
they felt like they wanted to change at the Helm.

(01:36:14):
Understand respect it. I love Bubba Cunningham, their athletic director.
He's a wonderful mind in terms of Carolina and also
college athletics as a whole. He's been on the board
for the NCAA Basketball selection Committee. YadA, YadA. So they
decided they're going to go in a different direction. And
you're thinking, this day and age in college football, you
go young, you go innovative, you go someone I don't know,

(01:36:38):
up and coming fresh who can relate to the kids.
They go seventy three year old Bill Belichick, now the
oldest coach in all of college football. That's the direction
they decided to go and from learning and listening and
everything that's been gathered, Ah, that wasn't necessarily the direction
the athletic department would have gone. But you know, there's

(01:36:59):
people with big pockets and big voices in terms of
the board of trustees and other people involved, and they
wanted to bring in someone the name of Bill Belichick,
who has won at the highest level and has won
eight Super Bowl six of the head coach, and they
thought that that would up the recruiting. It would obviously
excite the fan base, and this would be a different

(01:37:19):
approach in a world that has turned very professional as
opposed to amateur. Well, that appears that has not been
the case. It has not worked out. The record speaks
for itself. They have two wins this season, none of
which are against FBS opponents. They are pretty much at
the bottom of every single statistical category offensively defensively, when

(01:37:40):
it comes to not just in the ACC but all
of the entire country. They're in like one thirties and
below in all the major statistical categories. And there seems
to be a ton of turmoil and discord and disconnection
within the locker room and within the building. So the
school did put out a statement and said we were

(01:38:02):
sticking behind our coach, and then Bill Belichick in that
statement said I am here at Carolina and that's where
we stand right now.

Speaker 1 (01:38:07):
Okay, So here's the thing, Taylor, when I guess a
two part conversation on this, when when a coach, a
coach like a Belichick seemingly would have the track record
where if he were to come out and say, look,
I've got to I'm going to put my footprint on this.

(01:38:29):
We're going to do things my way, and there's going
to be some navigation that needs to go through that
before we you know, we are turning around a program,
we're putting our own stamp on it, and you know
that's going to take some time, right and so therefore
you could go with that, or then the other side
of it is this guy's completely out of touch. He

(01:38:50):
has no idea how to talk to college kids. And
Tom Brady won him a bunch of games and we
got fooled into thing and he's a genius. Is the
truth somewhere in the middle there, or you know what
has led for to go this far down?

Speaker 9 (01:39:03):
I do think the truth is somewhere in the middle
there Obviously the man knows how to win. I don't
think there's a question about that. But there is that
asterisk there that he did most of his winning with
a all time great and Tom Brady at the quarterback position,
and what happened once that marriage was no longer. You
could say that was just coincidence and that it was

(01:39:23):
time for a change for everybody involved. Sure, but maybe
you're seeing more of the other side of that now.
But I do think the other side of the coin
is while he does know how to win, Yes, college
football has gone more pro and farther away from amateurism
than ever before, but it is still different than the NFL.
It still requires different rules, It still requires eighteen to

(01:39:46):
twenty two to twenty three year old young men. It
still requires you building relationships with not just the young men,
but their extended families, because at the end of the day,
these parents are sending off their kids to you, their trust,
seeing you with their life essentially, and I think that's
where there's a bit of a disconnect. I'm not in

(01:40:07):
these living rooms, I'm not in the locker room, so
I can't say for sure, but I think there is
a level to this that that hasn't been matched by
this regime. In Bill Belichick's regime, that is misunderstood because
that's the part that's different than the pro and college level.
These are still young men and they still do have
another job and going to school, and you know, transparency

(01:40:31):
is really important, and there hasn't been a ton of
transparency with the program. Like Bill Belichick's not very accessible
to local media, the players haven't been very accessible to
local media. And I think that too, was maybe not
the right approach when you're opening up the doors to
try to build something new, Like people want to learn,

(01:40:53):
people want to know, and when you shut people out,
they tend to ask more questions. And I think that's
what we're getting now. And people are frustrated and people
are upset because there's been a massive investment. And if
you want to say this as a rebuild, to me,
it's not. This wasn't a program like in Turmoil. They've
gone to Bowl games in twenty one, twenty two, twenty three,

(01:41:14):
twenty four. You're watching Drake may do what he's doing
with the Patriots, Like this isn't a program that has
some deep, rich history of winning championships. But they were
solid and competitive in the Atlantic Coast Conference and they
were playing for an ACC championship in twenty twenty two.
So where they are today is actually a far cry
from where they were three years ago. And this is
with an entire new approach and a new coaching staff,

(01:41:37):
where you expected it to go.

Speaker 7 (01:41:38):
The other way.

Speaker 1 (01:41:39):
You know, it's funny Taylor in any walk of sport
and any level, whether we're talking about the Colts, the Pacers,
Indiana Purdue, or North Carolina football and the Patriots, the
separation between eccentric mad scientist and Prickley has been out
of touch. Guys wins, right, I mean literally, that's I mean,

(01:42:02):
the method to the madness when you are getting results
is one thing. And then when you're not, you see,
I mean obviously how it ended in New England and
all of it. Right lastly, and then I want to
talk to you about some stuff locally, but it would
seem from afar. You know, I watched that. I was

(01:42:23):
curious because of Belichick and listen, you know, in covering
so many Colts Patriots games and going to Foxborough and
for the week leading up and you know, seeing kind
of that glimpse behind the curtain a little bit. I
was curious how it would go in Chapel Hill. I
watched game number one and there's, you know, there's this buzz.
It was Deonic Colorado. It was this energy and this excitement,

(01:42:45):
and Jordan's there and Dean and excuse Roy Williams is there,
and you know, people are are super stoked and it's
this star studded event. And then they went out and
just absolutely fell flat on their face. And now it
seems like they're going to take the little crumb. And
I don't know how little we're talking about with an

(01:43:05):
NCAA violation that supposedly he's being investigated for. But from
Afar Taylor, what it seems like is there is now
a group of influential people at Carolina that if they
haven't out, they're going to take it. Is that fair?

Speaker 9 (01:43:20):
Yes, you know they put out these statements to squash
that beef, But from what I've heard, there are where
there's smoke, there's fire, and there are some rumblings in
there that people are looking for a way out. Whether
it be one side or the other, whether it's Bill's
camp or whether it's you know, the school's camp, I'm
not entirely clear but yeah, those rumblings, there's something to it.

(01:43:43):
But then they put out a statement saying we're committed
to each other. But statements are statements, and I guess
it's just words.

Speaker 7 (01:43:48):
Typed on a sheet of paper.

Speaker 9 (01:43:50):
I don't know how much benefit it would do to
do right now, Like I look at the coaching staff.
I'm being serious, Jake, and I'm like, if Bill Belichick
were no longer the head coach, who the heck is
taking over this football team?

Speaker 1 (01:44:00):
Jeff Saturday, Baby, Jeff Saturday. He's used to it. Man,
He's a Carolina guy, right, Yeah, I know.

Speaker 9 (01:44:07):
I'm serious, like truthfully, because that's been a big point
of contention with this staff, is like who really has
true mc double a winning experience on this coaching staff.
Forget the roster, which has seventy new players. That's why
I feel bad for is these players. Regardless of what
happens at the Helm. If Bill Belichick and the school
were to mutually part ways today, cool whatever, they're hiring

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a new head coach. You know who doesn't get this
year back? These players, they don't get this year back.
They've played what five games? I mean, you know, it's
not like the NCAA is going to be like, hey,
you guys were screwed this year, We're going to give
you a year back for That's never gonna happen, first
of all, but you know, they lose that, and I'm
I'm disappointed for them. Maybe they can turn it around,

(01:44:50):
and I want to hope the best for Carolina because
this is a brand that has potential to be good.
But man, right now, it's as bad as it could
possibly be.

Speaker 1 (01:44:58):
So you're you're traveling, you you are currently you said
you have a game this weekend? Right, votech in Georgia Tech?
Is that right?

Speaker 5 (01:45:05):
Yes?

Speaker 9 (01:45:06):
We were heading to Atlanta to the undefeated Jackets.

Speaker 1 (01:45:09):
Okay, hey listen, they're tough, man, I can tell you
that much. Okay, So when you are traveling and you're
on planes or whatever else, I want to know the
last three shows or docu series that you you binged ooh.

Speaker 9 (01:45:22):
Well, currently, right now, on my television as I prep,
I'm watching Dateline Big, Dateline Girl. When I'm on a
plane lately, I'm on a Wicked kick Like I've seen
Wicked a ton of times now too, but I inevitably
always fall asleep on a plane. I'm like a baby
in motion, I fall asleep, so wicked has been one
of them. And then you know, I'm watching sports, you know,

(01:45:44):
I'm catching up on the day's event. So those are
really my three things. But where there's a dateline, there
is a tailor.

Speaker 7 (01:45:49):
I can assure you.

Speaker 1 (01:45:49):
Here's the thing about the dateline thing. A lot of
people that are on dateline are wicked. We know that much, right,
There's a lot of a lot of that going on
there you go. But when I watch it, I'm a
dateline cheater. So I'll watch. I'm starting, I look it up.
I'm like wait, because then I get fascinated by it,
like wait a minute, like these are real people, like
real stuff. You know this, did you? And then I begin,

(01:46:13):
this is what And when I say this, this is
going to sound so incredibly bizarre and whatever, right, right,
But when I see some of these stories on dateline,
because they're always about crimes, right, They're always like some
crime of passion or whatever else. And then and hear
me for what I'm going to say here without it

(01:46:33):
sounding terribly perverse or whatever else, when it comes to
these terrible crimes that take place in these documentaries and
everything that we then get completely invested in. Then I
begin to wonder and ask myself what makes one of
them more like intriguing or fascinating than another, because in reality,
especially in twenty twenty five, like I mean, this stuff's

(01:46:54):
happening like all the time, right, you know what I mean?
I mean, So, how do they pick which one qualifies
for having an entire show done about it? Does that
make sense?

Speaker 9 (01:47:03):
That's a great question. I wouldn't assume that people like
submit their tragedy, but maybe, right maybe they do. Maybe
there's a I don't know, that's a good question. I
actually Dave Clausen, former head coach at wake Forest, who
is now an analyst with me at ACC Network. His daughter,
Courtney works at NBC and she works with Tom Yamas,

(01:47:26):
and I'm going to ask her about this, this whole
dateline thing and how they come about with the stories.
I'm going to get back to you on this. Does
an inside scoop on.

Speaker 1 (01:47:34):
That, I'll tell you it's not Dateline, but but I
have to admit it's another one that like if I'm
flipping through and it's on, I always stop. Is when
that Chris Hansen's always interviewing the guys that are that
just came for eliminating cookies with a young girl and
to catch a predator. And then he comes out and
he's like, what are we doing here? Here's here's my
correspondent the course, and I always watch those.

Speaker 9 (01:47:55):
Also, right, cinematic truly, it's it's cinematic.

Speaker 2 (01:47:58):
And poetic or so than Twister.

Speaker 1 (01:48:01):
Right, we know that much more so than twist.

Speaker 4 (01:48:03):
Do you miss once again?

Speaker 1 (01:48:05):
And Taylor, here's the last thing for you. We have
now determined on this program. Eddie and I have kept
a very scientific chart on this We have thirty thirty
female listeners. Right. We are debating whether or not we
can make you listener number thirty one because you don't
actually listen to the program. You don't live here, but
you have to hear it when you're on with us

(01:48:27):
from time to time. Do we count you as a
female listener? Yeah or nay?

Speaker 9 (01:48:32):
One hundred percent. I'm a dedicated fan of the program,
ivid listener as long as I can, as long as
I can hear it, Yeah for sure?

Speaker 1 (01:48:41):
Sure, kind of like just repeat it all We got
cows flying past us, the whole deal, right, all right.
Virginia Tech, Georgia Tech this weekend ACC and ESPN for
Taylor Tannembaum. Taylor appreciate the time. As always, we look
forward to talking to you again. Give our best to Mitch.

Speaker 9 (01:49:00):
I will thank you, guys. You're the best.

Speaker 1 (01:49:05):
That's right, Mitch is her dog, Eddie, as you know, right.

Speaker 2 (01:49:09):
I'm aware I heard the dog is. Don't you worry.

Speaker 1 (01:49:12):
I'd like to know what's going on because one of
the engineers just came in and it's frantically texting you
guys back and forth. What's going on around?

Speaker 2 (01:49:17):
Yeah, we are having some we were having technical issues.

Speaker 1 (01:49:20):
We have cows flying past us. Are we driving through wind?
And a house that's flying past? Are we still on
the YouTube channel cow due to the to the delight
of the viewers.

Speaker 2 (01:49:33):
No, we're good. We're good now. Cam's got it all
squared away.

Speaker 1 (01:49:36):
I think people like my blue Jay's hat.

Speaker 2 (01:49:38):
People were asking why the blue Jays in the In
the chat though.

Speaker 1 (01:49:42):
I will tell you that I mentioned this before, but
it's part of my genius. You ready, when did you
did you ever collect baseball cards, Eddie? Or were baseball
cards kind of gone by the time you were playing
Little league?

Speaker 2 (01:49:54):
Baseball cards were never gone, Jake. They're still out there
and they're still popular.

Speaker 1 (01:49:58):
Well, but they so base baseball cards in general though. Actually,
you know, the seventies and eighties, really the eighties is
where baseball cards like had this meteoric rise because you
would do baseball card shows and all kinds. This is
pre internet and all that stuff, right, And part of
it was because part of it was because so many

(01:50:22):
people from the fifties, sixties, and seventies that had baseball cards,
you know the old story, right all my mom threw
them out of the basement, or I used them and
the spokes of my bicycle to make the sound effect
of a motorcycle and it bent up my Mickey Mantle
card at whatever, and so so many great players that
the cards became collectible because it was hard to find

(01:50:46):
mint condition cards of that era. So that spiked this
interest of baseball cards in the seventies and eighties of look,
this is like your future, this is your literally, these
are your stocks. You buy these baseball cards, hold on
to them, and you're gonna sell them. I mean, you're
gonna make a ton of money off of them. Everybody
thought this, right, and so it was a huge thing

(01:51:09):
for childhood for a lot of kids to collect baseball cards.
And then the other thing that became popular was you
send your baseball card to the stadium of the player
and ask them to sign it with a self addressed
stamped envelope. So you'd write to Dale Murphy, Dale Murphy,

(01:51:31):
Atlanta Braves, you know, Fulton County Stadium, drop it in
the mail, and in it you would have a letter
made out to you with a stamp already on it,
so that theoretically or feasibly, the player would get it,
sign the card, put it back in the envelope you provided,
hand it back to the mailman. There it goes. Now,
when you did this, you would get more often. If

(01:51:51):
you got anything in return, it was usually something from
the team itself that was like a little stamped you know,
a created manufactured card or photo or whatever of the player,
or a sticker or something, and even that was cool
to get for sure. When I was eleven, I believe

(01:52:14):
my god parents, my parents' best friends had family in
Toronto and they would go like once a year to
Toronto to visit. And so I thought, wait a minute,
all of these kids are sending self addressed stamped envelopes
to the expos and the Blue Jays. But those players,

(01:52:35):
Tim Rains and Andre Dawson and Jesse Barfield and George Bell,
those players are signing those cards and putting them back
in these self addressed stamped envelopes. And then the Canadian
mailman is saying, or postal worker, I can't take this
that has an American stamp. It needs a Canadian stamp.
Do you happen to have a Canadian stamp? And Andre

(01:52:57):
Dawson or Tim Rains or They're going, well, no, I
don't have one on me, you know whatever, and those
cards are getting pitched. Was this is the thinking of
like eleven year old Jake Querry. So I say to
John and Liz Brown, when you come back from Toronto,
can you bring me a sheet of Canadian stamps? Now
I don't know why I didn't pick the ex Bos,
they had great uniforms, but I think it was because

(01:53:19):
John and Liz had gone to Toronto. And so I
was like, I'm going to send a card to every
Blue Jay player. And I did, and I put the
Canadian stamp on it, and I put in my letter
about how proud I was that I had the forethought
of this. And I got back literally like of I
probably sent twenty cards to Toronto and got like twelve

(01:53:40):
of them back. I still have most of them. And
then in eighty five they went to the ALCS with
George Bell, Jesse Barfield, Lloyd Mosby was my favorite player.
They later had Tony Fernandez, and then they got into
the Roberto Alomar, Joe Carter, Dave Steve, that era of
player and one back to back World series when I
was in college in ninety two and ninety three, and

(01:54:02):
so I've always kind of liked them. And then we
go to Toronto every year for Indy Carr and I
got a Blue Jay's hat and they beat the Yankees.
So I'm all in on the Blue Jays, like I'm
die hard, die hard. I've watched almost three games this year.
I'm all in. So there's your answer. You seem unenthused
by my answer? Preoccupied? Or is the world blowing up
around us? Is that what's happening?

Speaker 2 (01:54:21):
I was just way way way too long cooled.

Speaker 1 (01:54:26):
Okay, Well you asked.

Speaker 2 (01:54:28):
I didn't ask people ask Yeah, but.

Speaker 1 (01:54:32):
I'd like to know what's going on from you seem
distracted by everything that's going on with people coming in.

Speaker 2 (01:54:36):
Here, right No, we're good.

Speaker 5 (01:54:38):
We're good.

Speaker 2 (01:54:39):
We've just had a little system.

Speaker 1 (01:54:40):
Are David Beach, Grove Jake. Look at North Carolina's roster.
They are young with what they have, they should be better.
It is, I thought in the era of NIL. And
this is why the Belichick story to me is interesting.
In the NIL era, it seemed to me like North

(01:55:02):
Carolina was thinking ahead and they were looking beyond the obvious,
and they were going out and getting an NFL coach
that's used to salary cap and used to egos and
you know, money and all those things.

Speaker 2 (01:55:21):
They hire a former general jilliam and Mike Tannenbaum to
relation to Taylor.

Speaker 1 (01:55:26):
To oversee everything, right, so they had they have all
of these aspects or pieces where it basically is like
it feels like they are going to run this like
a basically a minor league football franchise. And that's what
it feels like. Football is going in that direction, right,

(01:55:51):
and so you know when you when you look at
it that way, and by the way, it's Michael Lombardi,
right Lombardi. Yeah, But but either way, you know you're
bringing in somebody thanks for the correction that has worked
in the National Football League and a coach that's worked
in the National Football League, and you're becoming this it's school.

(01:56:12):
And what's fascinating to me is the two schools that
had this blueprint and the other one I realized has
been a college coach. But North Carolina at the beginning
of this year was this year's Colorado. Like the look
at the it literally was like a Netflix fictional movie

(01:56:33):
or documentary about college athletics.

Speaker 2 (01:56:37):
Well, now you have the whole situation with his girlfriend,
all of it.

Speaker 1 (01:56:42):
Yeah, I mean that that obviously adds the whole different
wrinkle of it, right of just that sidebar of this
of his girlfriend being essentially nearly the age of many
of the players, et cetera. But when you watched that
first game in Carolina, I mean it literally was like, man,
they are turning college football on its ear and this

(01:57:02):
has been a and the other thing too. If this
was if this was pre controversy John Gruden, or if
this was like give me an NFL coach, that's Sean McVay.
If this was Sean McVay, I don't know that you
have the scrutiny of the failure like you do Belichick, because.

Speaker 2 (01:57:25):
Here's a good example Jake Trent Dilfer at UAB. They
are constantly one of the worst teams in college football.
But nobody talks about him. Yes, because even though he's
a former NFL Super Bowl champion.

Speaker 1 (01:57:38):
Analyst, right, I mean, and you know, television and everything else,
but but you don't have it's just the fact, the
stark contrast.

Speaker 2 (01:57:46):
Michael Vick of coaching college football too.

Speaker 1 (01:57:50):
But this guy was the face of coaching brilliance, you
know what I mean, And now he's the and and
he is literally, in the span of a year, has
turned into the face coaching failure. And I think that
part of it is because there are so many people
that were just waiting for any opportunity to jump on
board and get on the bandwagon of, you know, celebrating

(01:58:15):
his failure. And he has given them plenty of ammunition
to that. He has given the Wolverines the raw meat.
It's fascinating. And I don't think he's going to be
coaching there at the end of the season. I don't
think he makes it to the end of the year.
Fascinating stuff, all right, Who's in who's out for the
Colts in terms of practice, in terms of their injury report,

(01:58:37):
and what they may look like on Sunday. James Boyd
has been out of the complex and we will talk
to him about it next. So the Colts and Cardinals
coming up Sunday and let's find out because there are
a lot of question marks from a health standpoint, not
just for Arizona but Indianapolis as well. Joining us now
on the Java House Peel and Poor Guest line. You
hear him in the Mornings with Kevin Bowen and Jeffrick.

(01:59:00):
James Boyd joins us on the show.

Speaker 4 (01:59:01):
James, how are you doing good?

Speaker 1 (01:59:05):
I want to get right to this point, and that
is I'm just going to simply name the player and
then you tell me the latest on what we're hearing
in terms of availability. Okay, Kenny Moore.

Speaker 3 (01:59:16):
Doesn't look good.

Speaker 11 (01:59:17):
Did not practice for a second straight day due to
the achilles injury that's kept him out the last two weeks.

Speaker 1 (01:59:23):
Okay, So in that, well, we'll get to this in
a minute, I guess. So put this in the back
of your head in terms of what that means of
who would be enter out. You know how they move
things around, even though obviously he has been out, so
we have some idea there Alec Pears will be the
next guy.

Speaker 11 (01:59:40):
He was practicing today, which is a good thing, but
like we saw last week, he has to get through
the final stages of the concussion protocols the available come Sunday.

Speaker 1 (01:59:48):
Where do things stand in terms of the return of
Jalen Jones.

Speaker 11 (01:59:56):
It still sounds like he's going to be out a while.
It did not sound like he was near returning according
to Saint Syching. He just said he remains out and
they will not open the practice one dow for him
this week, So I would not be looking for him
to be out there, you know, in the near.

Speaker 1 (02:00:11):
Future when you look okay. So I'm trying to think
Grover Stewart's another one by the way, who is on
his way back or on the men. Where do things
stand with Stuart?

Speaker 11 (02:00:23):
I believe he's fine, he didn't practice or sorry, he's
practicing full yesterday. Did not practice today, Although throughout the
season Grover has received at least one rest day per
week more or less, so I wouldn't be too alarmed
that he didn't practice today.

Speaker 1 (02:00:39):
Tayquin Lewis, I think misspracticed due to an illness. I
assume expected to still go though, right.

Speaker 11 (02:00:45):
Yeah, He was back out there today, so it seems
like he was fine.

Speaker 1 (02:00:47):
Anybody I'm missing, I think those.

Speaker 11 (02:00:51):
Are the big ones. Oh, Braydon Smith, he was missed
yesterday due to rest. Back out there today. No worries there.

Speaker 1 (02:00:59):
When you look James at you know, just in general,
we'll begin with this the the the attrition, so to speak,
and let's go back to the Kenny Moore as the
example here. What how many guys are having to play
kind of out of position? If that makes sense? In
other words, I'll give Chris Ballard credit. What I'm getting

(02:01:21):
at here is in the defensive backfield. It's an area
that he kept saying a year ago, like, look, I
just need to see my guys play. And I know
they went out and they you know, they acquired players
in binding them in ward and tried to solidify it,
but they just haven't been able to get any continuity there.
Is it safe to say that there are guys in
their defensive backfield that are playing opposite areas or different

(02:01:43):
ways in which at the beginning of the year we
envision their role to be.

Speaker 3 (02:01:49):
Not really, I.

Speaker 11 (02:01:50):
Just think that their roles have sort of expanded more
than you would have liked. For example, what Treia's Ward
is still their number one corner Nothing's really changed in
his world. Without Jelen Jones out there, Davin Howard retired,
You're looking at certain players to kind of step up
in bigger roles. And for example, a guy like Makai Blackman,
you made that trade for him at the beginning of

(02:02:11):
the year.

Speaker 3 (02:02:11):
You probably don't want him.

Speaker 11 (02:02:13):
Be as your starter, but he's become your starter because
you know any other bodies out there, So that's something to.

Speaker 3 (02:02:19):
Keep in mind.

Speaker 11 (02:02:20):
And then looking at this week in particular, with Mike
Hilton going on injury reserve due to the shoulder injury,
Cannymore look like he won't play, they probably rely on
Chris Lamon's the veteran defensive back. He's going with the
team for a couple of years now to step in
at that slot cornerback.

Speaker 1 (02:02:35):
You know, Nick Cross is a guy that I was
thinking about this on Sunday, James, and I wanted you
to expand on this thought. Oftentimes you see players that
get drafted and they say, you know, hey may not
have football instinct of yet, may not be a pure
quote unquote football player, but as such, a dynamic athlete

(02:02:57):
that can grow into the role. And I think there
was a lot of that of the thought of that
when Nick Cross came out of Maryland and then I
was watching on Sunday and I thought to myself, he
has done exactly that. Like, kudos to him, because it
seems like now he is a more instinctive player and
that instinct is now matching with the athleticism to be
a pretty darn good safety. Your thoughts on that are

(02:03:20):
am I selling short what he had when he came
out of college?

Speaker 3 (02:03:25):
No, I think you're spot on there. I mean it's
a gamble on him.

Speaker 11 (02:03:27):
They traded up to draft him, I believe, in the
third round, and at the time, the way that Chris
Baalor kind of described it was that they felt today
were getting a first round talent a year early. Like
had he gone back to school at Maryland, he probably
would have been a first round pick the next year.
So they drafted him, knew they had to develop him,
and he did get off to kind of a rocky start.

Speaker 3 (02:03:46):
Started the first couple games of his career, they got benched, didn't.

Speaker 11 (02:03:50):
Really play that much, but I think the position changed
from free safety to strong safety as helt him a
Ton Jake, and this year you're seeing him, you know,
play like you said, more instinctual, closer to the line
of scrimmage, close to the box, close to the accident,
and they having camp Bina on the back side. This
helps you out of time because you get to play
a little more free, I think, because you know you
have an elite you know, playmaker on your back side

(02:04:12):
to help you out just in case you get to
buying James.

Speaker 1 (02:04:14):
Daniel Jones has played so well and that has been
the dominant storyline through five games that that's been. You know,
it's exceeded all expectation. I think maybe even the Colts
would tell you it exceeded their expectation. And they've taken
care of the football and they're playing at a high level.
But Daniel jones play to this point has allowed us

(02:04:41):
to or or has caused us to overlook perhaps the
slow start of who is there anybody that jumps out
of you, either player or unit that you say, yeah,
that person owes Daniel Jones a Christmas card.

Speaker 3 (02:04:57):
That's a great question.

Speaker 11 (02:04:58):
Honestly, you probably want to look at the regime more
than the team. I mean, does the play of Daniel Jones,
if he keeps this up, does that.

Speaker 3 (02:05:07):
Mean you have earned another year?

Speaker 11 (02:05:09):
If you're Chris Ballard, if you're a Saint Spiken, if
you're you know, part of that front office as group,
do you feel like, Okay, if we get into the
playoffs with Daniel Jones playing at such a high level,
we have shown the new ownership carl Ers Gordon in company.

Speaker 3 (02:05:23):
Hey you know what, Yeah, we.

Speaker 11 (02:05:25):
Might have messed up with Anthony Richardson, but look what
I got you in return. Here's what I did as
plan B. So that to me is probably the bigger
conversation around Daniel Jones, because everyone else on offense I
feel like you can't really complain.

Speaker 3 (02:05:36):
I mean, Josh Downs perhaps.

Speaker 11 (02:05:38):
But even last week we saw he got more involved,
and so with him playing at this level, it feels
like any given Sunday you could have any different receiver
sort of step up. I mean, if there's one blemish
on the offense, I guess you're looking at Ady Mitchell
saying why is everyone else thriving with Daniel Jones And
you're the one guy who obviously has been in the
doghouse last couple of weeks.

Speaker 1 (02:05:57):
If you put truth Seram and Chris Ballard. Do you
think he would say, look, I signed Daniel Jones because
I saw something in Daniel Jones and thought this was possible.
Or do you think he would say, I signed Daniel
Jones because I wasn't sold on Anthony Richardson and knew
that we might have needed somebody just to hold the
wheel for the rest of the season.

Speaker 11 (02:06:19):
Oh, that's a great question. I'm probably gonna go with
the ladder just because Daniel Jones and what he had done.

Speaker 3 (02:06:28):
In New York.

Speaker 11 (02:06:29):
You know, he hadn't played good football, he hadn't played
winning football. Now we're seeing, especially at this moment in time,
that it certainly wasn't all his fault the failures that
have gone on in New York.

Speaker 3 (02:06:39):
They have already moved on.

Speaker 11 (02:06:40):
From Russell Wilson to Jackson Darts, so.

Speaker 3 (02:06:42):
They're going through their quarterback change. But I think anybody
who tells you I saw.

Speaker 11 (02:06:48):
Something in Daniel Jones will probably be like, Okay, I
can see that. But anybody telling you they saw this
level of Daniel Jones, an MVP caliber player, I think
that they probably be lying. I mean, he's playing exception
football outside of the Rams game, has been nearly flawless,
and the idea going into at least in my mind
and perhaps you know, for the Colt front Austin's was

(02:07:09):
that if he could just be steady and safe, we'll
be fine. But the difference between what he's doing here
with the Colts versus what he's doing with the Giants
and they made the playoffs in twenty twenty two is
that he's really been a great passer, you know, aggressive.

Speaker 3 (02:07:23):
Throwing the ball down the field, not running a whole lot.
So he feels that a new and improved player.

Speaker 1 (02:07:28):
James Boyd is our guest. He's on the Java house
feeling poor guest line. Of course, you hearhim in the
mornings on the morning show here on the fan. We're
talking about the Colts and Cardinals, you know, the James
in talking about Jones and I was talking about this earlier. Clearly,
this guy's becoming a fan favorite, as he should be. Clearly,
I think now unless the wheels come off, the seed

(02:07:50):
is planted to the fact that he might be the
long term quarterback here and he may get an extension
and be here beyond this year. A lot of football
yet to be played. I realize I don't know the
fans know who he is as a dude. As a guy,
I don't know that we ever know that per se.
But you're in the locker room and you get to
see like his weekly avails and you know, his interviews

(02:08:11):
and et cetera. What does he come How does he
come off? Quiet guy, quiet leader, quietly confident, shy guy
one rather than is boisterous around his teammates and they
love him. I mean, what kind of dude is Daniel Jones?

Speaker 11 (02:08:27):
That is the money question and the question I've been
trying to glean and get answers for because he's such
a reserved personality, especially in media settings. But from what
I've been able to gather from his teammates and just
from watching him a little bit, he seems like he's
very down to earth, you know, one of the guys.
But that switch gets slipped as soon as they get

(02:08:49):
into the more serious side of football. And so if
you ask any of the linemen, the wide receivers and
tight ends, they're all like, yeah, he is as easy
going as they come. But when it comes to the aim,
he can be not annoying, but he can be very
persistent and meticulous. You know, you got Doman Taylor telling us, look, man,
I can be walking in, you know, to the facility
about the grab breakfast and he's telling me, hey, did

(02:09:11):
you see that messages us into about this check on
this play or this block I want you to make
on this play. And you got Michael Pittman Jr. Saying Hey,
the guy's always late to our Thursday dinners which is
tonight because he's watching the film. And I did get
a chance to ask Daniel Jones about that this week,
and I got a real smile out of him, I
believe because he kind of laughed at all. It was like, look, man,
I think these guys woul much rather me know what

(02:09:33):
I'm looking at on Sundays versus being on time for
dinner on Thursdays. So the guys really appreciate him, they
love him, But it sounds like that competitive nature comes
out and how detailed he is.

Speaker 3 (02:09:43):
Not a big screamer, raw ra guy. But she'll know
how much he cares because he's.

Speaker 11 (02:09:48):
On you all the time about the little minute details
that often decide winning and losing in the NFL.

Speaker 1 (02:09:53):
James, I haven't pinpointed which one it is yet, but
to me, Daniel Jones looks like some sort of a
cross between the animal character from We or the little
guy in the Kroger commercials. I can't figure out which
one it is yet, striving me crazy. When you figured
it out, you let me know, all right, I.

Speaker 3 (02:10:08):
Will, I will. He's certainly somebody who around here.

Speaker 11 (02:10:11):
You know he's coming a fan favorite, So mighty neat
a couple of fatheads or something.

Speaker 3 (02:10:14):
That's right around the city up.

Speaker 1 (02:10:16):
That's right, all right, James, we'll be listening tomorrow seven
o'clock in the morning. Appreciate the time.

Speaker 3 (02:10:21):
All right, you have a good one.

Speaker 1 (02:10:22):
H James Boyd joining us on the Java House Peel
and Port guest line. JMV is in. He is back.
I should say he is on remote?

Speaker 4 (02:10:29):
Is he not?

Speaker 7 (02:10:29):
Eddie?

Speaker 1 (02:10:30):
That is right? Uh So we will get it out
to J ANDV. We'll do the crossover brought to you
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We'll hand it off to John to find out what
he's got cooking. We'll do it next. Hey, Jake, this
from Michael. My uncle took me to see several blue

(02:10:50):
Jays games in their inaugural season. I saw the first
ever Grand Slam for the Blue Jays. My uncle's construction
company later helped build the SkyDome. Also decided not to
go to a game once against the Angels based on
the forecast, and that was the day that Elvis died.
I had my first ever chocolate chip dip ice cream
cone from Dairy Queen that day. Go Blue Jays from

(02:11:10):
Michael Heck, yeah, I told you. Lifelong Blue Jays fan.
I watched almost three games this year, but I'm enjoying
the postseason with them, and it was fun to see
them defeat the New York Yankees. J ANDB is back
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(02:11:30):
and Air John and Little Hermanacky Wings.

Speaker 6 (02:11:33):
I assume, oh, buddy, this is a great place. All
ales are great, but Kissing Greenwood is outstanding.

Speaker 1 (02:11:39):
Who's your favorite all time Blue Jay boyd Moseby, That's nice.
Mine would be I'm gonna get Rance Mullenicks. Oh, okay,
Rance Moullinnicks. Rance Moullinicks Kelly Grub oddly enough both played third.

Speaker 4 (02:11:58):
George Bell, See Barfield.

Speaker 1 (02:12:01):
Jesse Barfield, Yep, Dave Steve.

Speaker 6 (02:12:05):
That would be like the top five right there for
me and just some of the greatest uniforms of all
time and played. Really that Exhibition Stadium may have been
the crappiest stadium before Skydom ever created.

Speaker 4 (02:12:18):
Right there too, sure.

Speaker 1 (02:12:19):
Was Exhibition Stadium. It's interesting, John, because IndyCar when they
do their race every year in Toronto, which this year
is going to be moved in terms of the location,
but the where they do that race. If you watch
the IndyCar Race, so it's at Exhibition Place, which is
kind of like their fairgrounds. Right. So one year I'm

(02:12:40):
there and I'm like, I wonder where this has to
be where Exhibition Stadium was, And I looked down literally
like ten feet away from me, and right there in
the middle of a parking lot. Next to there was
a guy that was actually had a little vending machine
making snow cones, and right next to it, boom, right there,
that's where home plate was. And then they actually have

(02:13:01):
each of the different you know, here's first base, second base,
third base, but right there by Ontario Place. And yes,
it was a total dump. It was a complete show
where Ernie Wit used to catch Yeah, right behind the
home play, the home play thing, that's exactly right.

Speaker 4 (02:13:19):
Ernie Ernie Wit was awesome.

Speaker 6 (02:13:22):
But nah, I agree, and I like I like Vlad
Guerrero Junior. And I like it because there's so many
legacy names on that squad too, some of which aren't
playing right now, but they are legacy names on there.
That's that's kind of cool as well. With that Blue
Jay team, they're fun to watch because they're heavy offense.

Speaker 4 (02:13:37):
Man, they are absolutely rake. They rake, they.

Speaker 1 (02:13:40):
Do do that. But you know, typically when teams are
like that, they get into the postseason and then they
have a round where the bats goes silent and it
ends as quickly as it was fun to watch, you
know what I mean?

Speaker 4 (02:13:51):
Yeah, I wonder.

Speaker 6 (02:13:52):
I mean they go both they basically go pitching by committee.
I mean they pitch the entire game, you know what
I mean with everybody you kind of want under with
a team like the Dodgers, for example, if that's who
they end up getting, maybe if that's going to work out.
But yeah, I would agree, they're fun as heck to watch.
I was thinking about this because this is a question
for you. I was listing all my way back from

(02:14:15):
GC the other day and I got to thinking, Jake,
what's the most overplayed song of all time?

Speaker 4 (02:14:20):
Most overplayed?

Speaker 6 (02:14:21):
I mean we got the worst and the best, And
what's the most overplayed on the radio song of all time?

Speaker 4 (02:14:28):
Okay? Got anything?

Speaker 1 (02:14:29):
Now, when you say overplayed, you just mean you mean overrated,
or just like it's the one that has been.

Speaker 4 (02:14:34):
I mean played.

Speaker 6 (02:14:35):
We have played the most and maybe because of that,
you love it deep down inside me? You go, damn again,
they're playing that again. Got to hear that again? And
you've done that now for decades. Is there a song
that stands out?

Speaker 1 (02:14:49):
I hate to say this shook me all night long,
but ACDC comes to mind.

Speaker 6 (02:14:56):
That he should because it's played all the time and
basically every single format seems.

Speaker 1 (02:15:00):
Yeah, there has to be one. Do you have one
in mind? I do I have one in mind. What
year did it come out?

Speaker 4 (02:15:09):
Nineteen seventy six? I think.

Speaker 1 (02:15:13):
Seeing the year, boys, it's multi decade and I think
it charted in at least two, if not three, different
decades too.

Speaker 6 (02:15:25):
And when you think about it, when you then you'll go, oh.

Speaker 1 (02:15:28):
Yeah, that Bohemian Rhapsody.

Speaker 4 (02:15:30):
And it's that's it.

Speaker 6 (02:15:31):
And it's about nine minutes long, which is not it's
five and a half minutes long. But it takes forever
and not like any great deal. But whenever you hear it,
you go, man, that again, is like when somebody requested
on Saturday night, I go, oh, man, really again?

Speaker 4 (02:15:42):
All right, here we go?

Speaker 1 (02:15:43):
Yeah, I mean, that's way up there. Man. I've always
wondered this what what what song? And there's various answers
that what song do you believe has been played on
American radio more than any other in history American more
than any bohemian to be up there, right, it.

Speaker 6 (02:16:05):
Would probably it would probably qualify. I mean, then if
you if you're gonna go multi decade, which i'm you'd
have to go back to the sixties, where what let
it be by the Beatles nineteen seven Hotel California. Hotel
California is right there in a similar category. I mean,
I just I was thinking, if if it's to fit
your criteria, that means it probably had to have played

(02:16:28):
in another decade as well, So probably in the sixties.

Speaker 1 (02:16:31):
And the other thing John that like Bohemian Rhapsody. If
it the thing that comes. The key there is if
it gets into a movie and then is all of
a sudden like relaunched and reintroduced and then charts the
second lace, right, I mean.

Speaker 4 (02:16:42):
That's exactly why I think it.

Speaker 6 (02:16:44):
I know it charted in the seventies, it may have
in the eighties, and I think it did come back
with Wayne's World, no question in ninety two.

Speaker 1 (02:16:50):
No question, no question about it. All right, what's lined
up on the Big Show today?

Speaker 6 (02:16:54):
We're going to talk about who's starting for the Cardinals Sunday,
Kelly Stoffern.

Speaker 4 (02:16:58):
We're excited about that to see Kelly still for play.
Is the stuffer a Stofer? Remember their former quarterback? I
was thinking of Ultra, But that's those quarterbacks.

Speaker 1 (02:17:05):
Neil Lomax is gonna come off the bench, right.

Speaker 6 (02:17:08):
Neil Lomax will be better than Jacoby Brissette right now.

Speaker 1 (02:17:12):
No, we don't tell you that, we don't be nineteen
eighty four, Neil. I mean, right now, I think you would.

Speaker 6 (02:17:17):
I think Jim Jim Hart would roll out there and
look better than Jacoby Brissette right now. I bet you
that's exactly right. Who was who is the quarterback in
the Tom Cruise movie. You know it was throwing to Dwell,
Show me, show me? Yeah, who was throwing to rod Tidwell?

Speaker 1 (02:17:34):
Who was that boy? That's a good question. Hold on,
I'm googling it. Jerry McGuire, quarterback, Jerry McGuire. Quar're back.
Let's see here. That's Rick Johnson Johnson. There's a minor
role for a real life former NFL quarterback Rick Johnson.
But I don't think that's yeah, I don't think that's

(02:17:55):
the name of the character though.

Speaker 4 (02:17:57):
I think Rick Johnson would be better than Jacoby Brissett.

Speaker 1 (02:17:59):
That's right, that's right. It actually says in here would
be better than Jacoby Brissett. That's one of the things
that's listening, right.

Speaker 4 (02:18:09):
That's good for the colts.

Speaker 6 (02:18:10):
Good for the colts because that one thing, I mean,
Murray's not gonna be able to run around to do
anything with a sore Sergeant Hulka. Apparently a lot of
Sergeant halk is getting injured out there too, that is correct.

Speaker 4 (02:18:23):
TJ.

Speaker 6 (02:18:24):
McConnell's going to miss at least from what Rick Carlisle
said the day of month.

Speaker 4 (02:18:29):
So that's why campaign is here.

Speaker 6 (02:18:30):
I like campaign man, but his his jumpers broke cast jumper.

Speaker 1 (02:18:35):
There's a reason why jump Jacoby cat jumper.

Speaker 6 (02:18:40):
But I do like him, and I Murray state, I
kind of like that mid major flavor he's always brought
to the NBA.

Speaker 4 (02:18:47):
But man, hurry up and get back TJ.

Speaker 6 (02:18:49):
McConnell, because that juice is necessary for this group.

Speaker 1 (02:18:53):
Jason. I do think there's an element of with McConnell,
because as you are a year away from the return
of Halliburton and you want to get as much replicated
of what you had, it's not necessarily bad to have
to not put additional miles on that. And I know
that sounds crazy because you'd rather have him out there
than not. I get it, No, but no, I grow

(02:19:14):
with you.

Speaker 6 (02:19:14):
Certainly wait until you wait until he's healthy, and then
wait a little.

Speaker 1 (02:19:18):
Bit longer because he corrects in his thirties right now,
that would exactly correct. Yes, I agree, Yeah, all right,
John's up next. We'll throw it out to him and
eleen porium and green with plenty of time for you
to get down and enjoy a cold one. We will
be back with you at noon tomorrow. And I thank
you for listening to the quarying company,

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