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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's query in company. I'm a moron.

Speaker 2 (00:02):
I'd forgotten how liberating it is to walk around in speedo's.
I think I just need to be stretched. I will
tell you this. I'm very tight and you can't see that.
I could do this on the camera, probably for folks.
I look in the mirror brush of my teeth and
kind of get turned on, but it took a while
to get it up.

Speaker 1 (00:17):
It's like a rock. Yeah, look at that?

Speaker 2 (00:18):
Or are you not impressed? I wonder to myself, I
wonder how big it is. That's fifty two years of
muscle right there.

Speaker 1 (00:23):
On ninety three five and one oh seven five.

Speaker 2 (00:25):
The fan heard it from a friend who heard it
from a friend. Well, isn't that quite the montage, Jeddie Garrison?
That you put together there right a year and a
half or so of doing this radio program, and that
right there encompasses the forty seconds of actual radio airplay
that is worth redistribution.

Speaker 1 (00:45):
Correct, there was something that I had to have to
save for a later date, Jake. I can't really, I
can't use them all right now.

Speaker 2 (00:53):
Well, it is in fact my birthday. Thank you having birthday, sir.

Speaker 1 (00:56):
Thanks.

Speaker 2 (00:57):
Here's what's funny, I was thinking about this on the
drive end today because of you know, birthdays are an
odd thing because deep down, and let's be real, for
most people, I think I speak for most people with this.
You reach an age and a point where you know

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you're like, yeah, it's kind of just another day, but
truthfully it's not. It is a special day because you
hear from people that you haven't heard from in a while,
which is always appreciated. I don't mean that in a
bad way, and it is a reminder of you know,
people say nice things to you, or say things do
you they only say once a year or whatever else,

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and it is I appreciate all of it. I had
very nice comments from people that were very much appreciated,
some of which I was kind of almost unaware that
people thought that particular way in a good way. So
it is greatly appreciated. And you do still look at
the day, you know, like, oh man, it's a cool day.

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It's September third. One of the things that for me
is a real blessing, aside from the fact that I
know and I'm aware of the fact that I am
the luckiest person on the planet because I have just
been afforded a lot of things by no no, no
credit to myself strictly the way things have aligned for

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me of a lot of fortune and luck. And one
of those is the fact that it is still entrusted
that I'm allowed to talk on the radio each day
about sports and about things that are of importance to
me and to the people of this city. And there
are people that seemingly either have a broken radio and
haven't changed the station, or are willing to participate in

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that for three hours a day. And I am very
grateful for that. And that is the birthday gift that
is the most important to me, is just the connection
with the people of this town. Now, what is funny is,
as I was driving today, I thought about two things.
Number One, there is a distinct advantage of having your
birthday be September third, Not just that it is the

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sixty first anniversary of the Beatles playing at the State Fairgrounds,
which is cool.

Speaker 1 (03:17):
Not just that.

Speaker 2 (03:19):
I always thought it was cool that nine times three
is twenty seven and if you invert twenty seven you
get seventy two, which was the year I was born,
and that nine is divisible by three. I always thought
that was cool. Or the square root of nine is three.
That was always fun to me. Weird numbers, but it
is always, more often than not in my fifty three
years now on planet Earth, almost always my birthday is

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on a day like this. I mean it goes without
saying obviously you get consistency of weather pattern in the
same day each particular year, but it is always a
gorgeous day like this. And I was thinking about as
the you know, I don't know that I truly grasped
that each and every year my birthday is usually the
week leading up to the kickoff of the NFL season.

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I mean it's right there in the beginning because it's
the first week in September. And I was thinking about
different years and how it relates to the Colts, because
the Colts are getting ready to kick off the season.
It is not their fifty third in Indianapolis, but they
have been here a while. This would be what you're
forty two or forty three as the Indianapolis Colts. And

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there have been probably more downs than ups, more lows
than highs, but the highs have been at the ultimate level.
But here is the good news for U Colts fans.
You know, a birthday is a weird thing because it
does cause you to look back on different milestones or

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different points in periods benchmarks of your life. And I
was thinking yesterday. I was telling somebody yesterday, as a
matter of fact, about when I was a senior in
high school, I went to go visit the University of
Alabama was one of the three schools to which I applied.
I applied to Alabama, Ball State, and Kansas, and I
ultimately ended up attending Kansas, but I was very close

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to attending Alabama, and so my parents took me down
in my senior year of high school on Labor Day
weekend to go visit Tuscaloosa. And I have a picture
of my dad in a hotel room in Tuscaloosa, and
he's got like four one dollar bills on his chest,
not because he was a stripper, but he was making
the joke that he was counting his money to be

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able to afford to send me to college. And as
I was looking at that thinking about that photo, that's
when it dawned on me that that picture was taken
because we had my mom put a birthday candle inside
of a Hostess snowball cake in the holiday and of

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Tuscaloosa to celebrate my birthday. And that was my eighteenth birthday,
my senior year of high school. So I was thinking
about the fact that it was that that I turned
eighteen in the fall of nineteen ninety and you know,
it's still it's surreal to think that in that image
that I have that my dad, you know who fortunately

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is still with us, but I think people know is
you know, had his own health complications of late that
are ongoing. But my dad was you know, fifty in
that photo and whatever else. So you just start thinking
about these benchmarks. And that's when it dawned on me.
The following with the Colts, and this is good news
for you Colts fans. I have wonderful news for you
Colts fans as it relates to today. If you look

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at benchmark birthdays, Eddie Garrison, I will be I will
ask you, okay, when one is like let's say, in
middle school, like an adolescence and your birthdays, you kind
of get past the age of the We're going to
chuck e cheese for my birthday, or I'm doing a
combined birthday party with Billy down the street, or the

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friends are coming over for my birthday. When you really
look at milestone birthdays, Okay, milestone birthdays, what would you
say are the milestone birthdays? HEDI, what is the first
milestone birthday that one has where it's a little bit
different than the average year besides one obviously eighteen? Hey,
what about right before that? More so for a girl
than a boy. But there is one other year right

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before that? Did you say fifteen? They they did a
whole like TV series about it about like Girls sixteen. Correct,
sweet sixteen. Right on my sixteenth birthday nineteen eighty eight.
For that particular season, the Colts were coming off of
their first Divisional championship as the Indianapolis Colts. There was

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a lot of hope, a lot of expectation, and they
went in That was the Ron Meyer year where all
of a sudden they decided to tinker with and go
with running the wishbone and try to utilize Eric Dickerson.
They went nine and seven and it was kind of
a dip year. Then eighteenth birthday, That eighteenth birthday, we
just discussed that eighteenth birthday. That was nineteen ninety. The

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Colts had they had just drafted Jeff George. They had
a franchise quarterback. They go in and they had traded
away their best receiver and their best linemen, and they
had a dip year at seven and nine, and then
right then because I was down there looking at colleges,
and then I would away to my freshman year of
college and a year where they started out I believe

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oh and fourteen or oh in fifteen. They went one
in fifteen, and that led them to end up having
the first two picks in the NFL Draft, Steve VMan
and Quintin Coreotis who they took. Was that was the
year that symbolized both my sixteenth and then eighteenth birthday,
my twenty fifth birthday when I turned twenty five. That year,
the Colts were starting a season and guess what in

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that season the Colts the bottom fell out and that
enabled them to end up the next spring to have
the number one pick in the draft to take Peyton Manning.
That was That's how they celebrated my twenty fifth birthday.
My fortieth birthday when I turned forty, another landmark birthday,
would you agree, Eddy, after twenty five forties by the

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next big one, Yeah, So my fortieth birthday.

Speaker 1 (09:06):
Here we go.

Speaker 2 (09:06):
The season's underway. Let's see what happens. And guess what.

Speaker 1 (09:11):
That was?

Speaker 2 (09:12):
The year my fortieth birthday, where they had just gone through.
They sat through the doldrums of the suck for Luck
and the Curtis Painter and everything else. They got a
rookie quarterback and they're starting over from scratch again for
my fortieth birthday, and the future was unknown and it
was Andrew Luck, and yeah, they had an unbelievable year.

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But that's how the year began. For my fortieth birthday.
Then for my fiftieth birthday, I'm celebrating my fiftieth birthday.
I was doing the morning show here with Mark and Kevin,
and it's like, let's see what happens for my fiftieth birthday,
And guess what that was? The year of total disaster.
That was the year of Frank Reich is off to

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a terrible start and now all of a sudden, let's
see what we get out of Sam Ellinger and Jeff
Saturday is going to be your interim coach. And it
was complete turmoil. So each of my landmark birthdays, there
something happens, more often than not bad than good. Something
happens within this franchise. What you want, is this my

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fifty third birthday? Because my fifty third birthday fifty three?
Who cares?

Speaker 1 (10:19):
Right?

Speaker 2 (10:20):
I mean basically you're biding your time, You're treading water
until sixty because nobody cares about your fifty third birthday.
And for the Colts, this is a season that it
feels to me like this is going to be a
fifty third birthday year.

Speaker 1 (10:34):
Not a bad thing. Not a bad thing.

Speaker 2 (10:36):
I mean, it still has a little bit of special
feeling to it for you when it is your birthday,
but it becomes kind of a routine to you. It's special,
like yeah, okay, it's my birthday, but you know that
to the vast majority, to your friends, your family and
everything else, it's like, yeah, it's just fifty third birthday.

Speaker 1 (10:52):
I don't need to get them anything.

Speaker 2 (10:54):
And this season for the Colts, to me, I know
a lot of people are forecasting doom and gloom aims
to be a lot of negativity and pessimism about this
upcoming cold season, but I actually disagree with that. I
think this is a year that and there comes a
good and a bad with this. I think it's a

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year where they are going to see what is there
with Daniel Jones. They're going to kick the tires on that,
and they're going to kind of temper what they're doing
catered around Daniel Jones and his limitation, and I think
that they see Daniel Jones. I keep going back to
when Chris Ballard talked about Daniel Jones and he kept

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referencing Alex Smith. He reminds me of Alex Smith. What
I see in him is like Alex Smith. And Alex
Smith was a quarterback that was selected number one overall
by the San Francisco forty nine ers, and because of
where he was selected, there was all this praise and
expectation about him and hope and then he goes out

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and he wasn't a terrible quarterback, but he did not
deliver quarterbacks a first overall pick quarterback level payoff very
few do. Peyton Manning said in the piece from Zach
Keiffer that we talked about yesterday in The Athletic, he
basically said, there are franchises that take players hi even

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if they don't need a quarterback, even if they don't
believe in a quarterback, they will reach and take it
right there so that they can then go back to
fans and say, see, we tried something at the quarterback position.
And I think Manning I don't know this. I think
Manning was basically saying that about Anthony Richardson. Look, they
knew he wasn't the guy. There was a chance, but

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deep down they knew the risk involved and they felt
like it was a bigger risk than the reward. But
they had to do it to say that they addressed it.
And Alex Smith in San Francisco, I think was a
guy that they took him number one, verraw because you
needed a quarterback and there he was, and so boom,
that's who you go with. And then he goes to

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Kansas City where Chris Ballard's working, and he is a
solid quarterback because by the time he gets to Kansas City,
they understand his limitation in his ceiling. When you go
to a go kart track and you get in the
go karts and they're like, yeah, there's a governor on

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all these that it can only go so fast, it
doesn't matter. You are literally trying your heart. You're like, no, no, no,
this one's going to go faster than everybody else, and
you are gunning that thing to the point where it
keeps sputtering on you because the governor dies it down,
but you keep pushing because you're like, no, no, no,
Like I just got this go kart and I know

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that they told me that there's a ceiling to it,
but I'm going to break through that. I don't believe that.
I think it's going to go fast. Then eventually you realize,
wait a minute, if I just keep this thing at
ninety eight percent and it never sputters, I'm going to
pass Eddie because he keeps sputtering because he's trying to
hit the governor on it. And with quarterbacks, I think
oftentimes you are doing it as one of two things.

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You are either trying to push through and not accept
what the ceiling is, or you understand what the ceiling
is and then you begin driving the go kart to
the point of knowing where the ceiling is so that
you don't get a sputter. And I think with Daniel Jones,
I think they tried it. With Anthony Richardson, they tried
to break through that ceiling. They tried to crash through.

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And when Chris Ballard is telling us, I see Alex
Smith in this player what he is saying is Alex
Smith became a very good and efficient quarterback in Kansas
City in Washington because we understood the ceiling and didn't
try to exceed what the governor wanted from us, and

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therefore there was less sputter. But when we tried to
push through and break through that boundary, everything shut down
a little bit. And I think this year, what they're
going to do and this is the good news bad
news yet and yang with it. The Colts are going
to go into this and they are going to say,
we're handling this season like a fifty third birthday. We're

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handling it like it's just like another year. It's not
the specialty year of a fiftieth birthday or a fortieth
birthday or a twenty first birthday. It's a fifty third birthday.
It's special to us, but to the masses, it's just
another year. And if they do that, and by doing that,
they say we are going to put basically that ceiling

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and that understanding on Daniel Jones. I'm not saying that
they're going out there playing vanilla football. I'm saying Chris
Ballard is giving us the precursor. He is giving us
the forecast. He is telling us, look, we are going
to play within the limitation of what we know we have.
But I think this roster is good enough with that

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limitation to be competitive, and so I don't think it's
going to be doom and gloom. I think the doom
and gloom comes if you put Anthony Richardson out there
and you say, I know this is a fifty third birthday,
but I'm going to pretend it's my fiftieth. We're going
to get the band all back together again. And mcconnald's
going to drive down from Florida or from Chicago, and
Jacqueline's gonna fly in from Colorado, and Emily Longnecker is

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going to show up at my party and take pictures
that people put on the internet and say it's my wife.
And Shannon's going to plan a big surprise, and my
cousin Doug's going to make sure that there's all kinds
of food and beverage for everybody there. We already did that.
We already did that, and you can't recapture that. And
I think with Anthony richards so they look at it
and they go, this is a fifty third birthday, So

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let's know the limitation and let's expect it going in
and that's what you're gonna have, Eddie. I truly believe
that what they're gonna do. I totally agree with what
I believe Stephen Holder said yesterday. I think Chris Ballard
is telling us, look, we know who we are. We

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know we're a fifty three year old guy, and it's
not as exciting as a fifty year old one. But
we're going to go out and we're going to utilize
Jonathan Taylor and Tyler Warren and Michael Pittman Jr. And
we're not going to try to be the greatest show
on turf, and we're not going to try to be
the Peyton Colts with fast pace and Marvin behind a

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defense and Reggie Wayne across the middle and Dallas Clark
coming across this way and flare out to handoff to
Edrin James. We know our limitation, and I think it's
going to be a more simplified offense, but because of that,
it may well be a more effective offense. And then
I think they have this is all barring massive injury,
of course, I think they have enough defensive depth and

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in particular on the line, to keep them in games.
I'm more bullish on them the most. I don't think
they're going to be sexy. I don't think they're going
to be overly exciting, but I think they're going to
be efficient, and I think they're going to go ten
and seven and hang around and be right there in
that wildcard spot. The problem with that, Eddie is then

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you're right back to square one. And if you go
back to you either say, Okay, we're going to stick
long term with Daniel Jones, which means we're going to
play knowing our limitation, or we're going to hand the
keys back over to Anthony Richardson, which means we're going
to try to jump start that fiftieth birthday again and
try to take that governor off and hope at this
time the go kart is able to fight through it.

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And I don't know that Anthony Richardson can do that.

Speaker 1 (18:43):
I just don't.

Speaker 2 (18:43):
And I think that in terms of here, that time
has coming gone, and one.

Speaker 1 (18:47):
Of his final pieces with The Star, Nate Atkins kind
of laid that out. It just it feels like there's
been a shift in how the Colts are asking what
they want their quarterback to do. Before it was what
you mentioned, quarterback elevating the players around him. But now
Shane Styking, Chris Ballard, the coaching staff, the organization feels
like the players around the quarterback can elevate the quarterback.

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And all you're asking Daniel Jones in this case to
do is not screw it up, kind of like what
you know brock Party was doing and is Rocky and
sophomore years with the San Francisco forty nine ers, what
Dak Prescott was doing in his early years with the
Dallas Cowboys. Just hand the ball off to Zeke at
that time, and you just try to get it to
your playmakers on the outside and let them do what
they do best and with the ball in their hands.

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Like that's what the OVIDU is like. The one concern
I do have about the defense, Jake, they were very
poor against the run last year. Are they going to
be better against the run this year or not? Because
they're going to primarily play two linebackers with lou An Rumo,
that means you're going to rely on your secondary for
being able to make tackles in the open field.

Speaker 2 (19:49):
I think part of the reason they were poor against
the run as well, that you have to consider, and
I'd have to go back and look at you know,
I'm speaking without having the the data in front of me,
But I do think that you know, a year ago,
there are offense more often than not with sputtering, and
so teams were playing with the lead against them, and

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so as a result of that, you had late third
and fourth quarter team salting clock away by burning the
clock by running the ball, and eventually that wears down
your defense. Where then that statistically speaking, I hear what
you're saying. I mean, I do think that their line
and Grover Stewart is a big part of clogging that
up in the middle right and being active towards trying

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to clog the middle lanes for you in your running game.
I just think, Eddie, I think this is going to
be a year where the Colts are a twenty twenty
two Honda Civic or Honda Accord, maybe a Honda Accord.
It's a nice car. There's nothing flashy about it. If

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you were making a movie right now, if I just
told you, like, hey, we're gonna make a movie about
just a guy, just a middle class suburban American family
with two kids. The guy works at an accounting firm,
the wife works at in the in an advertising firm.

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They got two kids that go to public school. They
live in the suburbs, and their kids play Little League Baseball,
And we're just gonna make a movie about the average
American family. When you picture that house, your little suburban house,
your little bi level house with a little garage right
in the parking lot or in the driveway, I should
say Honda Cord. Really nice car. Nice car, but it

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drives past your house every day on the neighborhood and
somebody goes, hey, what kind of car does Charlie driving.

Speaker 1 (21:47):
You're like, you know, is it a Honda? It might be.

Speaker 2 (21:50):
Is that a Chevy Malibu, a Nissan All Tom. It's
a nice car, nice little family sitdan. It's perfectly sufficient,
It perfectly works, but it does doesn't jump out as
memorable to you. It's not the guy with the Ferrari
and it's not the guy with the land Rover. And
I think that's what this year is going to be.
I think they're going to have a perfectly sufficient year.

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And the problem with that is that comes with that
challenge of that vat of suck that you can't get
out of because you're drafting eighteenth to nineteenth every year,
and therefore you become you know, I'm trying to think
of teams that just like every the Pittsburgh Steelers, they're
like five hundred for a decade, right every year. It's

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very difficult to get out of that. And that's the
one challenge that I think that they're going to have.
But it's it's it's a great conversation. It's a great
you know, I think it's fascinating to observe because I
do think that over the course of the season, you know,
this is going to be those first two games when

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you look at the first two games of the year
for them, Miami and Denver. You've got to get those
two at home because those are not only are their
home games, and you got to take advantage of your
home games when you can. But in addition to that,
those are two teams that realistically you very well could
be fighting with for a wild card spot at the
end of the year if they don't win their division.
And I think, you know, Houston or Jacksonville, And I

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know people say Jacksonville, what if if Jacksonville is able
to keep Trevor Lawrence upright and get him in rhythm.
I think Jacksonville can be a decent team as well,
probably along where the Colts are Houston, if they're healthy.
All of this is all topic of conversation with the
NFL this time of year is based upon if they
are healthy. But I think it's very safe to say

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that the Colts they if they're gonna have a chance
of the postseason or be interesting in November and December,
then they need to get certainly one, if not both
of these games to begin, because these are teams that
they're going to be sitting there in that lane waiting
to turn into left lane with that with the blinkers on,
waiting to see who's going to be able to merge

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over into that lane that would extend their year. Speaking
of lane changes, there is a big one that happened.
We told you about it yesterday. If you listen to
this show, you were the smartest person at your water
cooler today because I told you yesterday of another domino,
and yet in fact it is now confirmed. I'll let
you know about that, and we will find out why

(24:21):
Eddie Garrison is chugging the caffeine, including that in which
I brought him earlier today. It was a late night.
We will review and I'll explain next So Saturday, you
tell me if you find this odd, Eddie. I might
have mentioned this once or twenty times, but since I'm
going to, you know, after the the IndyCar season, and

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you know now that the season's over with and I
look forward to being home for you know, six months basically,
but you know, it's been it's been a hectic last
six to eight weeks. And so I'm literally going, I
mean leave Friday night and I come back Sunday. I
mean I'm gone for like forty hours, but I am

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going to go to that concert Oasis, as I'd mentioned,
at the Rose Bowl on Saturday. And because it is
an evening show, I'm gonna have a little bit of time,
and I will my body will be on Eastern time still,
so when I land, you know, i'll get up Saturday
morning in California, like at the crack of dawn basically.
And I think I might have told you once or

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twenty times what I'm doing, but I'm going out to
the Spawn ranch where the Manson family lived. Yeah, and
they have the Manson Family Cave, which is a cave
where there's a photo of all of the Manson girls
in nineteen sixty nine from Life magazine, and they have
written in the rock Manson Cave and that cave is
still there and most of spawn ranch is now gone,

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but the cave with GPS court into whatever else you
can get to it now it does say high risk
of poison oak. So I've got to take pants. I
gotta wear pants now. I don't know that they wore
a lot of pants with the Manson family back then.
I'm gonna wear pants.

Speaker 1 (26:01):
But is that?

Speaker 2 (26:01):
Is that weird that I'm going to that before the concert?

Speaker 1 (26:03):
Didn't you like have written communication or something? What was
that letter that you.

Speaker 2 (26:07):
Have as Yeah, I wrote Charles Manson a letter and
he brought me back.

Speaker 1 (26:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (26:11):
But I most people would find that probably bizarre, but
I find it simply historically fascinating. Colton Hurda is the
new announced test driver for Formula One for Andretti Global
and the Cadillac team, basically the Cadillac Formula One team.
And this is as we talked about yesterday, Domino number two,

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and I would fully anticipate that it will not be
long before Will Power is announced as the driver of
the number twenty six Gamebridge Honda for Andretti Global. Now,
the other driver that could factor into that is Indie
Next Champion Dennis Hauger. But I believe that Dennis Hauger

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is probably the front runner to end up driving for
dale Coin Racing because yesterday also we mentioned on this
show that Renus VK, who is driving for dal Coin Racing,
that his contract was up and that he likely would
end up in David Malucas's old car because David Malucas

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is going to go replace will Power, and VK is
somebody that I can tell you Team Penske has been
very fond of and even though he has not had
a lot of wins in his career, they are very
keen on his talent, his age, his personality, everything about
Renus VK. I think that Team Penske wants to closely

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monitor and they have a technical alliance with Freight Racing,
So I think VK has an outstanding opportunity to end
up if Penske is able to somewhat fun part of it,
because Foight Racing doesn't have the kind of money to
pay the salary that VK is looking for. But if
VK ends up in that number four car of David Lucas,

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which I anticipate eight. Then that would indicate that there
is probably some Penske backing there or Penske interest in it.
And I think that dale Coin's team is likely going
to be Dennis Hauger along with Roman Grojan, who's going
to return to the series and is bringing with him
some money, I believe, And there's good backing for dale Coin.

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Now that's that's a decent team. That's a decent that's
a decent ride for sure. But that's where things stand
with that. But Colton Hurda is the next domino here
will power, depending on what happens, may be joining us
tomorrow and we can get more indication from him on
what's going on. But let's get back into why Eddie today. Eddie,
you are drinking caffeinated beverages today?

Speaker 1 (28:40):
Correct? I know I have the I have a honeysin
intrist mint tea. Okay, well tea is caffeinated.

Speaker 3 (28:47):
I know.

Speaker 1 (28:47):
I was just letting people know it wasn't the shining
tea today.

Speaker 2 (28:50):
Well, but you are what I'm getting at, and thanks
for playing along, is that you need caffeine because you
were up late last night, correct.

Speaker 1 (28:57):
Yes, late night last night with the Fever.

Speaker 2 (28:59):
Yeah, fever last night. Eddie was on the post game
show and the pregame show for that matter, as the
Fever last night were on the short end against Phoenix.
My question for you, Eddie Garrison, we will rehash what
you talked about in the postgame show on this radio
station as you do for each and every broadcast of
the Fever. The next chance that you will do so
will be against the Sky. That is going to be

(29:20):
Friday night seven to fifteen pregame. But this impacts Indiana
nout in terms of their postseason and they're pushed to
the postseason in what way?

Speaker 1 (29:31):
All right? So after that loss last night, they were
seventh going into yesterday Today they are eighth in the
WNBA standings. They have a half a game deficit on
the Seattle Storm, who have played one more game than
the Fever, so they have two left. Indiana has three left.
Seattle does not play tonight their next game, and Indiana

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has the head to head tiebreaker in the event that
these two teams finished with the same record. Seattle next
plays on Friday against New York Liberty, who are struggling
right now. Without Sabrina Ganescu, and they just locked up
a playoffs bout yesterday, So you now have five teams
that have clinched a playoff Berth. There are four teams
vying for the last three Golden State, Seattle, Indiana, and

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Los Angeles. The Valkyries are in sixth. They are a
game and a half up on the Fever, a game
up on Seattle. Los Angeles is out on the outside
looking in. They are a game behind the Indiana Fever.
If those two teams were an end up at a tie,
which seems very unlikely, then Indiana would be out of

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the playoffs, los Angeles would be in. And I say
unlikely because the upcoming schedule for Los Angeles is very daunting.
They have two games at Atlanta, they have the Los
Fagots Aces, they have the Phoenix Mercury. All four of
those teams right now or all four of those games,
those three teams are tied for second in the standing.
So there's probably not going to be an avenue in

(30:55):
which any of those teams are resting players just because
they're trying to get you know, the second seed or
the third seed or what have you. So right now,
it seems likely that the Fever will make it in
just depends on what seed they get at this point.

Speaker 2 (31:10):
Yeah, and then of course you have the discussion of
Kate mcclark, the return, the availability Eddie, if you could
please the breaking news sounder, This just in and Dretti
Global confirming will Power will be driving the number twenty
six Gamebridge Honda for next season for the team in

(31:33):
the NTT Indyecar season.

Speaker 1 (31:36):
Look at that. You spoke it into existence to it.
I did.

Speaker 2 (31:39):
That's what we do on this show, right, we speak
things into existence on this program.

Speaker 1 (31:44):
And if you're wondering how the Fever can secure playoffs,
butot essentially they have to win to their final three
games or Los Angeles has to lose three of their
next five.

Speaker 2 (31:54):
You know it's it is an uncomfortable When I say uncomfortable,
it is an odd question to ask because you always
and you owe it to your roster to do everything
you can to push in on what the beginning season
goal is. And the beginning season goal for any team

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is to win a championship. And while it is easy
to look at the Fever and say a game over
five hundred tough games down the stretch, even though Chicago
has been a team that they have fared very well against,
devastated by injury. Caitlin Clark out, McDonald out, Cunningham out,

(32:40):
Colson out, Bibbie out. I mean they have been devastated
by injury and they have had to just plug and
play and pick up players. I mean, the Indiana Fever
twenty twenty five season is like your fantasy team with kickers.

(33:01):
Each week. It's like, you know what my kickers on
a BI I just got to let me go on
the free agent wire.

Speaker 1 (33:05):
Okay, there's a kicker. Boom.

Speaker 2 (33:06):
Who's your kicker this way? I can't remember some guy
I picked up. I think I think it's Arizona's. Okay, great,
who's your kicker this week? You know what the guy
had in Arizona. He missed two kicks and they cut him.
So I just picked up Detroit, you know, or defenses
the same thing. That's how the Fever have had to
handle their backcourt this year. And when I say this,

(33:28):
it's going to people are going to laugh at me.
This might be unpopular opinion. And yes, I'm talking about
someone that is a regular guest on this program, And
yes I will readily admit that when it comes to
the fever, perhaps I don't know it in terms of

(33:49):
the nuances the game by game, watching every play like
I do the Pacers, partially because of the season in
which they play many of their games. They are playing
them when I'm on the road doing IndyCar races or
whatever else. I just I don't see. I mean, I'm
not able to sit now. I could certainly go back
and watch after the fact. I get that, and I've

(34:11):
done that, but you get what I'm saying. I'm not
sitting there watching it with the same eye that I
am the Pacers, and I certainly understand and I respect
that at the beginning of the season, when they did
have full strength, there were questions about the style they
were playing and whether or not it was the most
advantageous style to the way that they should or need

(34:32):
to be playing. I get and understand all of those things,
and I respect all of those things. Having said all
of that, and an expert within the WNBA, I am not.
But when you look overall at everything that the franchise
has had to contend with, and the fact that we

(34:54):
are still having this conversation, and they have talented players.
Kelsey Mitchell's had a great year and has been everything
that you'd want. Aliah Boston has had a good year,
and both of those players have been able to carry
with them, you know, an element of everything that comes
with the expectation of the year. But I personally think,

(35:17):
and Eddie, I am welcoming you to tell me why
I'm wrong, because you see this far more nuanced than
I and in far greater detail than I. And it's
like one of those It's like a money painting or
a rim Brandt painting where you look at it from
close up, it looks a lot different than when you
step all the way back and look at it. And
I'm not seeing the finite parts of a Monet painting

(35:37):
because I'm not standing close enough to it.

Speaker 1 (35:39):
You do.

Speaker 2 (35:41):
But I think you have to give a huge tip
of the cap this year to the coaching job of
Stephanie White. I know that people are going to say
that that's biased because I, you know, know her, or
because she comes on this show. I mean, it's not
like a hang out with her, but you know, we
clearly have a very good professional, working relationship. But that's
not why I say that. I say it because they

(36:03):
are still in the mix. And while you can critique
all you'd like the way that they offensively approach things
with Caitlin Clark when she was there at the beginning
of the year and maybe didn't incorporate things, I get it.
I hear all of those criticisms and they may well
be warranted and valid, but will never know what could

(36:24):
have come from whatever they were building with the block
lego pieces at the beginning of the season, because every
time they started to build something, a different person came
in and pulled out the key block and they had
to restart all over again. And I think when you
look at the variety of ways that they've had to
play by personnel, I mean, I think you have to

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tip your cap to it.

Speaker 3 (36:48):
Now.

Speaker 2 (36:48):
You tell me if that's incorrect.

Speaker 1 (36:50):
Now, you're absolutely right, Jake. I don't know how many
other coaches will be able to keep this fever team
afloat during all the roster turnover and changes they've had
to make along the way. And that has been impacted
the most with all these injuries has simply been a
Leah Boston just because of the fact that you know,
when you talk about a dominating big like she can be.
Oftentimes they are a little bit reliant on the ability

(37:12):
of others to space the floor, so teams can't key
in on her as much as they have been able to,
you know, the last two weeks defensively and even though
the Fever are trying to find ways, and Stephanie White
talked about this last night leading up to the game,
is that they every night they're trying different ways to
get a lea boss at the ball. Some nights they're
more successful than others, but there's always going to be

(37:33):
an opportunity for Leah to have some sort of success
no matter who the point guard is or who the
guard is out there. And then to your point, I
think the part that Stephanie White has talked about and
players have talked about that have had so much success
for the Fever this year, even without Caitlin Clark, is
the fact that she doesn't try to put people in
positions that they aren't comfortable and she puts them in
positions that they are comfortable in and to their best

(37:56):
skill set and to you know, put the team in
the position to win. And the rotation may not be
saying from night tonight, it's you know, trying to figure
out which five on the floor collectively are the best
five together, and then you go from there. And I
give Stephand White a lot of credit because most coaches
would not be able to keep this roster and keep
this team over five hundred and in the playoff picture.

Speaker 2 (38:17):
Yeah, I mean it's I think it has been impressive
for certain, no question about it. By the way, on
the program today, Charles Davis is going to join us
right coming up about one o'clock.

Speaker 1 (38:27):
Yes, the voice of Madden. Really, I thought, well, he's
one of them. He's one of the analysts on Madden.
I should say Brandon Gunnon's the voice of.

Speaker 2 (38:35):
Madden, right, yes, yes, there's multiple voices now, Mike Nysialik
is did I say the last name correctly? Bloomington Herald
Telephon Times newspaper, right, yes, the Bloomington Herald Times. He's
going to join us talk a little Indiana football coming
up at one point thirty on the program today. And

(38:55):
then are we getting Matt Verderram?

Speaker 1 (38:57):
Is that right? Yes, Tyo Bell Chat.

Speaker 2 (38:59):
Yeah, Matt Verderram who came for the combine and fell
in love with Indianapolis because of Taco Bell Cantina, The
Taco Bell Cantina.

Speaker 1 (39:08):
Is that still there by the way, Oh it is, Yes,
it's still downtown. Ja is it right around the corner?

Speaker 4 (39:12):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (39:12):
Should we do my birthday dinner there? I think we're
doing Chicago's Pizza, right, Really got to do Chicago's Pizza.

Speaker 1 (39:19):
You kidding me? It's too bad you can't get there,
you know, during the lunch hour.

Speaker 2 (39:24):
I know, well, you still got time though, if you're
out and about right now, to do the lunch buffet
Chicago's Pizza, because it runs till one thirty. And you
get the pizza, you get the bread sticks, you get
the salad bar options, you get the soft drink, you
get the dessert pizza, all for thirteen bucks.

Speaker 1 (39:38):
Thirteen bucks.

Speaker 2 (39:39):
Thick about that that place you're looking at right now
at fast food joint you're driving past sixteen bucks out
the door. Thirteen dollars at Chicago's Pizza. A value at
twice the price, absolute value at twice the price. There
is a sports bucket list item last night that I
again began to ponder, and I would like to know
if anybody's done it. I think it would be the best,

(40:02):
the best sports weekend. You know, people talk about like
a Super Bowl, and I get it a final four.
There's nothing like the opening round of the NCAA tournament,
the Indianapolis five hundred. It goes without saying it's my
favorite week end of the year. But there is another
thing that I thought about, and I thought this would
be the ultimate and I'd like to know if anybody

(40:22):
else has done it, because I think I might have
to before year fifty four. I'll tell you what it
is next. By the way, Eddie, do you happen to
have again the breaking news sounder? Hey Jake, sound the
breaking news alarm daily female listener here. I think your

(40:47):
lady listeners would agree that skip the twenty five as
a milestone. Birthday thirty felt more like a milestone to me. Okay,
that's fair, But I do know another female caller named Aaron,
but this is Erin two. I believe Eddie, that takes
us to female caller number twenty six. Am I correct?

Speaker 1 (41:07):
I think we're at twenty six, the twenty six to
twenty seven.

Speaker 2 (41:13):
I think it's twenty six. We'll take it right. Thank you,
Thank you, Erin, and thank you for female listener number
twenty six. So last night I am scanning the channels. Okay,
surfing if you will, radio or TV television Okay, this
was not the Fever game was not yet on.

Speaker 1 (41:33):
I was a gonna say what time was this early
eight o'clock hour? So wait, did you find the re
rant of Jeopardy? Or did you find the first runt
of Jeopardy? I wowed everyone with the rerun? No, you
know what, I'll tell you the two things that I
watched and I thought of a sports bucket list item
that I thought this is. This would be a fabulous
sports weekend. But before that, as I was sifting through,

(41:58):
I'm fascinated by the show America's Got Talent. I know
it's been around for like twenty five seasons or whatever,
partially because once you get to a certain point, there's
not a single contestant on it that's from America. I'm
not trying to get into some political thing.

Speaker 2 (42:11):
I don't care. They're all interesting to me and fun
and exciting. But I'm like, it's isn't America. It's Got
Talent supposed to be like here's the house painter with
the unique talent, and instead it's like, here's a coffeehouse
singer that's been playing in Broadway in Nashville for twelve years. Okay,
but more so it is here's a band from India,
here's a magician from you know, Dubai, and here is

(42:35):
a juggling poodle from Australia.

Speaker 1 (42:37):
And then you get Richard Goodall from good old Fort Wayne, India.
That's exactly right now, Tara Hot, Tara Hot, that's right. Sorry,
But there was a guy last night. And I'm probably
the last human being that watches this program, I realize,
but most magicians you can kind of figure out, you know,
you're like, okay, you know this is how that's done.

(42:58):
There is a magician on America's Got Talent. I think it's.

Speaker 2 (43:04):
Called mind Bender or mind Craft or something like that.
And it's a guy that kind of looks like a
I don't know he he's dressed up like Boba Fett,
but he uses images like he he he gets into

(43:24):
your cell phone and sends messages to your cell phone
without typing on it. It's hard to explain, but if
anybody saw it last night, it truly was mind blowingly remarkable.
And so once I saw this act, I thought, well,
nobody can top this. Now they're going to bring out
some you know, some jackass that's going to try to,
you know, like whatever, do a bow and arrow through

(43:47):
a totally So I changed the channel and that's when
I realized this.

Speaker 1 (43:55):
Naked and Afraid was on. I like that show too.
There is no.

Speaker 2 (44:01):
I shouldn't say there's no sporting event that is better
than because there are. But I have said before and
I will say again, I think one of the most underrated,
underappreciated sporting events or sports to watch tennis. Yes, high
level tennis is captivating the hand eye coordination that is

(44:24):
required even at the most I grew up with Eric Barrett,
who was a state champion tennis player and had a
fabulous career in Indiana. I believe he won the Big
ten in singles. And I played every sport with Eric
growing up, and every sport that we played, Eric Barrett

(44:44):
was better than the rest of us because he had
a natural ability. His dad, Dinny Barrett, was a great
player in basketball, but Eric had a natural hand eye
coordination about him that you just you can't teach it,
and that transferred for him on the tennis court into
being an unbelievable tennis player. And one time he had

(45:06):
a tennis court in his backyard. One time, I had
him served me just a regular serve, and Eddie, I
don't know if you've ever tried to hit like a
high level serve, but it's unbelievable. I mean, it's it's
harder than hitting a fastball in baseball, in my opinion.
But the hand eye coordination and the movement and the

(45:28):
precision with which high level players play is remarkable. And
I love watching the US Open.

Speaker 1 (45:35):
I do.

Speaker 2 (45:35):
I like Wimbledon, I like the French Open. I'm not
a huge tennis fan, but I'm an appreciator of tennis.
And so I watched a lot of Fritz and Jokovic
last night, and I was thinking to myself, there would
be few things this time of year when the weather
is perfect.

Speaker 1 (45:51):
So did you watch Djokovic? And was it Center last night?

Speaker 2 (45:55):
It was Fritz Fritz, that's right, yeah, yes, And and
so when I was watching it, I was thinking to myself,
it would be awesome to take two or three days.
It would not be inexpensive, I realize, but to stay
in New York City, which is, in my opinion, the
greatest city in the world. There's always stuff going on
in New York, but to stay in New York City

(46:15):
to take the train over to Flushing. Right there in
Queens to take in say a day or two, or
a Center court or two. Not inexpensive. I realize you
don't have to sit down low. You can sit up
high to watch the US Open. And then if you
can mix in a Yankees or a Mets game, I
think that would be an unbelievable sports weekend and just

(46:37):
a weekend of energy and vibe that would be really
hard to top. I just think it is high level tennis.
I'm telling you I can't. I'm not a tennis officionado.
I'm not an expert on it. I don't watch it
year round. I don't watch the you know whatever, the
Smithsonian Invitational and Rowing up Virginia, I don't watch that.

(46:58):
But I I it is an unbelievable, high level stuff
to watch, and I love the drama of it. I
think it'd be an awesome weekend. Charles Davis, by the way, NFL,
we can ask him our question the three teams see
if he matches Eddie or myself that we talked about
yesterday with Stephen Holder, but more specifically on the Colts

(47:19):
and Shane Steichen has spoken about Daniel Jones, and I'm
gonna play for you some of that audio as well.
Upcoming here it is Quiring Company. You're listening to an
A ninety three five and one oh seven five the fan.
All right, let's get right to it. The year gets underway,
of course for the Colts coming up this Sunday against
the Miami Dolphins, Lucas Oil Stadium. On the microphone for

(47:39):
that with the NFL on CBS. He is a friend
of this radio station, always good with this time. Charles
Davis will be on the call for that game. Charles,
I appreciate the time. Let's get right to this as
you have started to kind of break down and at
the beginning of the year, you know, we kind of
don't know what teams are and who's going to be who.
But when you look at Indian Apples, what jumps out

(48:02):
of you is perhaps an area that surprised you of
either more efficient or more deficient than what you expected
before you really broke into who they are.

Speaker 4 (48:11):
Oh that's a great, great question. I think surprise isn't
the proper word, but I think maybe a realization again
once more being reintroduced to the fact that this offense
has plenty of talent on that side of the ball,
and I think they've done a nice job over the years.
You know, I know Chris Baller catches a lot of

(48:32):
grief for different things, you know how it is as
a GM, right, But if Ryan Kelly is going to
be gone and Will Fryes, who came on and played
so well before getting hurt, is also gone, who do
you have? Well they've drafted in recent years, HANNERBORDERLINI ended
up winning the center job before Danny Pintry even got hurt.
And you know, Matt is it Gonzalveez, I want to

(48:53):
make sure I get this correct.

Speaker 3 (48:54):
Does yeah, yeah, thank you.

Speaker 4 (48:56):
I'm trying to remember for my draft days, all right,
But Matt Gonzalez, he will have to prove that he
can play guard because he's been a tackle, but they
like his potential. And Braden Smith is kind of my
north star for this. Many thought he was in tackle,
everybody thought he was a guard. He's done quite well
at tackle. So I think the culture, I think they're
doing a really nice job of evaluating these positions. So

(49:18):
I really like this offensive line potential going in and
then all the people on the perimeter drafting Tyler Warren,
having Jonathan Taylor. So of course it comes back to
everything that we always talk about, right, I mean, there's
just no getting around it, is there. What kind of
quarterback play will they get with Daniel Jones becoming their
new starter?

Speaker 2 (49:39):
Yeah, and that's the you know, here's what I mentioned earlier, Charles,
and I want you to tell me if this is
the dumbest sports talk radio armchair quarterback thing you've ever heard, Okay,
and that is that you know, Daniel Jones is perhaps
a quarterback that has a more defined ceiling and a
very clear understanding of that ceiling. But I think I

(50:00):
think if they know that going in, they can cater
an offense around what he can do and actually be
reliant on the playmakers to make plays as opposed to
the quarterback. And they get in danger a little bit
a year ago with Anthony Richardson of waiting for the
light to click, and there was just too much inconsistency.

(50:21):
So you may not have the highs with the Daniel Jones,
but you have a better understanding of keeping it within
what the governor wants and just letting it naturally flow.
And that's what they're going to be reliant upon for him.

Speaker 4 (50:35):
Well, but before I get in my answer, let me
just start with this. We've talked time, you know, number
of times over the years. Dumb has never been a part.

Speaker 3 (50:45):
Of your game.

Speaker 4 (50:46):
Okay, thanks, and it's not starting now. I think what
you laid out is a very good blueprints the wrong
word road maps the wrong word now until proven differently.
But let's call the supposition. All right, this is how
it could be. Here's where I think the Colts fans

(51:09):
are sitting on the edge of their seats and thinking
to themselves, could it be more? Because I think with
Daniel Jones, we keep coming back to, hey, he doesn't
push it downfield. Look at his his yards for completion
or yards per attempts really low. And you know, even
though Anthony Richards didn't complete a lot of passes when
he threw it, he threw a downfield and blah blah
blah blah blah. I think you have to go back

(51:31):
and look at who he was throwing to with the Giants,
Malice Neighbors wasn't there, Okay, all right, it wasn't that
type of a wide receiver unit.

Speaker 3 (51:41):
And he made the most of what he could.

Speaker 4 (51:43):
He has more than enough arm. So if all of
a sudden you look up and Alice Pierce has pierced
the defense, see what I did there?

Speaker 1 (51:52):
Well?

Speaker 4 (51:53):
And if you look up and Tyler Warren is stretching
the scenes right, and Josh Downs has shaking someone and
maybe have the little wheel and gone up field, there's
plenty of arm there. We might see a little more
of Daniel Jones than maybe people expected to see. And
I do believe if that happens, Jonathan Taylor will be

(52:13):
in heaven because now thing the field opens up even
more for him, and that's what he needs.

Speaker 2 (52:19):
Is it possible, Charles, that the Colts finally said to
themselves because of and I don't mean this as a
knock on Anthony Richardson, but let's just say, because of
the young inconsistency of Richardson, is it possible that they
needed to do a redirect at the quarterback position to
simply be able to itemize properly who they have offensively,

(52:39):
Because if Michael Pittman Jr. Is going to be a
long term receiver in the league, if Pierce is actually
a consistent deep ball threat, if Ady Mitchell can get uncorked.
You've got to be able to consistently get them the football,
and this allows them to actually find out what they
have everywhere else as opposed to the quarterback position.

Speaker 1 (52:59):
Is there a possible that's the thought process.

Speaker 4 (53:01):
Sure, there's a possibility in that. I think more. I'm
leaning more towards I don't care what you're doing yards
per completion wise. If you're the low fifty percent in
this league throwing the football in twenty twenty five, that's
just not sustainable.

Speaker 3 (53:21):
It's just not.

Speaker 4 (53:23):
Tim Tebow was the one mold breaker for a season
where he ran Denver into a playoff spot and hit
one of the better throws you're ever going to see
in the playoffs when he hit Jamarius Tops across the
middle against Pitts Pittsburgh. But all in all, what's his
completion percentage? It's a hard slog, right, It's hard to

(53:44):
go like, you know, I'll make it a general comment
here because I don't have the stats in front of me.
I'm pretty sure Tim was around fifty percent. Is a thrower, Okay.
It's hard to win every week in this league if
your quarterback is five of seventeen going into the fourth quarter. Now,
Tim Tebow had a magic to him. We know that.

(54:05):
I think he can possess until it's all over for him.
There's a magic to him as a person just to
match him as a player. But you can't go into
the fourth quarter expecting, hey, this is going to snap
together and he's gonna put together this drive. And he
did it often, so he started to think that that's
just how it was. There isn't a coach alive, a
head coach alive, and there's not enough pepto bismol tombs

(54:26):
and whatever else you want to use, may lox whatever
that they can live seventeen games on that high wire act.
Because you're putting too much pressure on your defense. Unless
you have the two thousand Ravens or the eighty five
Bears or pick your defenses out there consistently, that's just
not going to work for you over time. And that's
what people knew because remember Denver, you know, hey we've

(54:49):
made the playoffs.

Speaker 3 (54:49):
That's great.

Speaker 4 (54:50):
We got get a quarterback and they got Peyton Manning.
You know, I mean, it's just kind of how that
has to work for Anthony Richardson. All of that is there.
I firmly believe that they thought by now in year three,
he would have played enough that they could have gotten
past a lot of things. But because of his injuries,
that plan got shot. Does that make sense, Yeah, because

(55:13):
because he was supposed to play himself into understanding how
to play the position, because the only thirteen starts at Florida.
But when you're missing most of your seasons, you see
where I'm going with this. They did not get that
experience they expected to get in terms of on the
job training, and so now he has to retool. I'm
like Chris Ballard, I'm not counting him out. He's too young,

(55:34):
he's too talented. We've seen too many guys bounce back.
You're crazy if you don't. We're not even talking about
guys who came back as veterans, Doug Williams, Jim Plunkett.
Those guys want super Bowls. So let's not count him
out at all. But for right now, I can understand
why the Colts made the move.

Speaker 2 (55:51):
They did forty seven point nine percent completion percentage for
Tim Tebow in his career. I think Richardson's like right
at fifty one. If I'm not so, yes, and similar
prototype of body athleticism etc. Charles Davis is our guest.
He'll be on the call Colts and Dolphins coming up
week one. Charles, I want to get to this real
quick before because I know you're busy. I always ask

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this at the beginning of the year. It's one of
my fun subjects. I'm going to give you three categories,
and when I do, I just need you to tell
me what team most comes to mind.

Speaker 1 (56:21):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (56:23):
Category one the team that we don't talk a lot about.
There hasn't been a lot of hype and expectation. They
don't jump off the page at you. But around Halloween
into November, all of a sudden, we're going to go,
are they good? They're like six and three Now, we
haven't talked about them at all, and I think they
might be good. This is last year's version of say

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the Washington Commanders. That team this year could be who Seattle?

Speaker 1 (56:48):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (56:50):
Number two is the opposite of that. This is the
team that we've talked a lot about. There's some praise,
there's a little bit of hype about them, some buzz,
and all of a sudden, we may say is not
going to take off for them? Like I don't know
what's going on, but they're sucking the mud. That team
would be who oh, that's.

Speaker 4 (57:06):
A great one. San Francisco potentially.

Speaker 1 (57:17):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (57:18):
And then lastly, now this is my favorite one. This
is the what in the heck? I just got an
alert that Sam Ellinger is the starter for the rest
of the year.

Speaker 1 (57:27):
And Jeff Saturday is gonna coach.

Speaker 2 (57:29):
No, no, no, I'm not saying literally, I'm saying, if you
go back to that season when that happened with the
Colts every every year, so this is that honorary year.
In other words, the team that all of a sudden,
just every door they try to turn, the knob on
is locked, and the year just goes haywire and there's
turmoil and who in the world expected this? But man,

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this is just NonStop drama that team is going to be.
And you can't say the Dallas Cowboys because this.

Speaker 4 (57:55):
Is the Yeah, that's that's just that's just natural.

Speaker 1 (57:58):
Right, correct?

Speaker 4 (58:00):
Ooh, NonStop drama. Everything's just kind of gone haywire. The
whole thing's kind of going out of whack. Cleveland's too easy.

Speaker 3 (58:08):
You can't do that.

Speaker 4 (58:09):
Sorry, how about the La Chargers?

Speaker 2 (58:17):
Okay, okay, I can kind of see that because.

Speaker 4 (58:20):
And I don't and I don't really truly believe it,
but it's got that type of a you know, if
anything's going to go haywireing crazy because what they did
last year was really impressive with a lot of one
year contracts right, a lot of bedroom guys, but they
still haven't totally solid cap yet, and it made a
lot of moves that looked pretty good. But I'm telling

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you over Shawn Slater's injury, now you're bounced in all.
Now you've got to play tray pit. You see where
I'm going with this, and that division is abs because
the Raiders are now going to be a legitimate squad. Okay,
see Carroll, there's no stands.

Speaker 2 (58:54):
Or the Raiders was my pick for what you said
about Seattle, Like I just I feel like the Raiders
are one of those that I like it, you know,
And I like Gino Smith. I don't is he you know,
is he Doug Williams? Perhaps not? Is he Joe Montana
perhaps not? But I think that he can be a
perfectly sufficient you know, I like.

Speaker 4 (59:10):
Him, right, I'm with you, And the reason you and
I think have landed on it is Pete Carroll is
proven understands how to win. The teams got a got
a good GM with him in John Spytech. They're they're
locked in like he was with John Schneider, and there's
a there's better talent there than people know. And I
like the additions of what they did. Listen drafting Genty.
I can hear people don't draft the back. He'll draft

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the back.

Speaker 3 (59:32):
I get it.

Speaker 4 (59:33):
Okay, fine, but guess what the way they're going to
play draft that?

Speaker 2 (59:37):
Yeah, it softened some things up elsewhere, right, It gives
you like that, it draws things in there all right. Lastly, Charles,
in your opinion, and I know that it's very early here,
but if you look at it, and this is always
of course saying and assuming that that health is not
a concern, the ceiling for Indianapolis in your opinion, is
what eleven wins.

Speaker 4 (59:57):
Okay, Yeah, eleven wins. It's a division that you know,
everyone looks at and thinks that they can get right.
I think it's a tougher year to get right because
I think Houston last year was ripe to be had.
Remember they had the rollicking roller coaster of that first year.
It's just so much fun, right, and the second year,

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everybody challenged them and they were floundering for a while,
took an eight count and came back and finished the
season and won a playoff game. I think that they're
now battle tested, So if you're going to go get them,
you got to go truly get them now. Like I
think they're in that echelon now of Hey, we're pretty
good and we know it and we know how to
handle some bumps. Well, let me tell you the vision

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that people can jump up and go get people. I
really believe that Daniel Jones plays well. I think this
is a very talented roster in Indianapolis.

Speaker 2 (01:00:48):
Okay, go out and get yourself a hat and gloves,
because if they win eleven games, we'll put you in
the parade in January down Meridian Street.

Speaker 4 (01:00:56):
Hey, no one wants to see me.

Speaker 3 (01:00:57):
Faris bueller?

Speaker 2 (01:01:00):
A little twist and shout. Charles appreciated, man. I know
you're busy. We look forward to the call on Sunday,
and I appreciate you squeezing in some time for us.

Speaker 4 (01:01:06):
Thanks for having time for me. Always great to talk
with you. You take care of yourself.

Speaker 2 (01:01:09):
I appreciate Charles Davis joining us again. Colts Dolphins Sunday
Lucas Oil Staium, he will be on the call. I
totally agree about the Raiders. Seattle's interesting. Seattle is one
of those teams that just they never totally fall off, right, See.

Speaker 1 (01:01:23):
I thought he was going Los Angeles Rams, not Charge
also possible.

Speaker 2 (01:01:28):
I think the Chargers, though, you've got to give with
and it's not there yet. But Jim Harbaugh does have
this weird factor of all of a sudden like everything
just he's just an odd dude, right, I like him,
but he's an odd dude. And like when when the
expiration date hits, it hits.

Speaker 1 (01:01:43):
Well, I went from to think of look, Stafford has
missed a ton of camp in preseason time. Yes, with
the back remark there, right, like if the back injury
all of a sudden, you know, becomes worse, does he
missed time? Next thing you know, they're they're running Jimmy
Garoppolo out there? Is that? Who is that? Who their
backup is? Yes?

Speaker 2 (01:02:01):
For whatever reason, I was also thinking, you know who's
like the career backup guy, the career backup guys? Who
is the proverbial lifetime backup quarterback in the NFL. When
I say, like back. I'm gonna Eddie, I'm gonna tell
and listen. Folks can text me their answer here at two, three, nine,

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ten seventy okay, right, or on my cell phone number
either one. We would love to have you chime in
with this answer. Okay, I'm going to I'm going to
describe to you a quarterback and I want you to
and wait till I'm done, and then I want you
to tell me who you're thinking of.

Speaker 1 (01:02:41):
Okay, Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:02:43):
This is a quarterback that through the course of his career,
in his first five or six years, he's played for
three different franchises. He was a spot starter that was
given opportunity in week nine in his rookie year, week
twelve in his second year, and both times kind of
supplied surprisingly threw for like three hundred yards and a

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touchdown or two and kept his team in it, and
people are like, Okay, not familiar with this guy, but okay.
Then a franchise came along and gave him an opportunity
as a starter. He went out put up some good numbers,
but his team was seven and nine. Then the next
year they were nine and seven, and then he went
back to being journeyman. Backup and when he would have

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to come in for it, he has a three to
four week limit, but he'll throw for massive yards when
he comes in there. Donut tire three hundred. He's a
donut tire guy. Throws for three hundred yards and four touches,
and before you know it, you're like, this guy's thirty
nine years old. He's been in the league, and he's
played for seven different teams and has accumulated good numbers

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and made good money, but he's never necessarily made the
leap to being a starter, and when they've tried to
make him such, it hasn't worked out. But man, is
he a good backup and it would. I'm surprised you
if he's still on a roster, but you're not positive.
Who am I talking about? Ryan Fitzpatrick. Okay, that's that's
exactly who Caleb just said. Somebody said Jim Sorgie. Jim

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Sorgie never really got on the field, though only because
Peyton Manning didn't give up snaps.

Speaker 1 (01:04:14):
Josh McCown, Josh McCown's a good one. Jamis Winston now.

Speaker 2 (01:04:20):
Never uh never nervous? Purpose was purvos Helson? What was
Jamis Winston? What was his nickname? Famous Jamis Famous Jamis, Yeah,
thank you. Nobody said the guy that I'm thinking of
yet Gardner Minshew Gardner, Minshew's a good one. Colt McCoy
not bad. Kobe Brissett. Somebody finally said it here boom.

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I'm not saying that this is the definitive correct answer,
but the guy that I was thinking of because you
were talking about the Rams is case Keenum.

Speaker 3 (01:04:50):
Ah.

Speaker 2 (01:04:50):
Yeah, isn't case Keenum? Like the career backup, I'm good player,
but every time they try to put him out there
as a starter, you find the ceiling quickly. Somebody says,
Mark Malone. All I know about Mark Malone is this,
I've heard Mark Malone, who is the former Pittsburgh Steeler quarterback.
Mark Malone will occasionally do commentary on like Westwood one games,

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m H. And I hate to admit this, but my
voice sounds exactly like Mark Malone. When Mark Malone is
doing a game, I will hear it and I'm like WHOA.
And typically when Mark Malone is on the radio, I
mean I get whenever he's doing a game, I know it.

Speaker 1 (01:05:36):
Josh Johnson another good one. Joss Johnson's a good one,
Teddy Bridgewater, Tyrod Taylor.

Speaker 2 (01:05:40):
Charlie Whitehurst, clipboard, Jesus Organ, Jesus Steve Berlin. That's a
good one. Ryan Fitzpatrick is a poster child Teddy Bridgewater's
become a big one for this too, Hey, Jake, Mark
Malone is a Tom Selleck lookalike.

Speaker 3 (01:05:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:05:55):
See, Mark Malone looks like Tom Selleck and sounds like me.
Can you imagine a better double dose of sexiness than that? Gosh,
I mean, that is genetic lottery for this guy. Somebody
says to Mark Malone, do you like the fact that
your initials are the same as a popular candy? Oh,
that's fine. Do you like the fact that you were
the quarterback for one of the most historic franchises in

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the NFL, the Pittsburgh Steels.

Speaker 1 (01:06:17):
That's cool.

Speaker 2 (01:06:18):
Do you like the fact that you get to do
games on the radio and get paid to travel around
watching NFL games?

Speaker 1 (01:06:22):
That's fun?

Speaker 2 (01:06:23):
What about the fact you look like Tom Selleck? Good
mustache itches sometimes? What about the fact you sound like
Jay Quit? Now we're talking, That's exactly what Mark Malone
would say. Let's go right. Shane Steichen did talk earlier
about the quarterbacking situation with Daniel Jones now taking the

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snaps and we know this that it's going to be
this way for the year, and I do think that.

Speaker 1 (01:06:53):
It is.

Speaker 2 (01:06:55):
Certainly worth looking at, as we just talked about, say,
with Charles Davis. And by the way, you can catch
Charles along with Andrew Catalan a J Ross this Sunday,
as I mentioned on CBS Colts and Dolphins.

Speaker 3 (01:07:10):
But you should love your voice.

Speaker 2 (01:07:13):
Well that's Kevin Harlan, right, I know. David Letterman also
once told me I had a fabulous radio voice. I
hate my voice actually, but Mark Malone probably.

Speaker 1 (01:07:20):
Likes that you pivoted too quickly. I was trying to
pull it up as you were talking about you know
your voice and everything that's right, Well, I pivot quickly.

Speaker 2 (01:07:26):
That's one of the things when I was a low
post player that the coaches loved is how quickly I
can pivot. But Shane Steichen was talking about Daniel Jones,
and I think that when you look at and I
mentioned it earlier and talking with Charles Davis about it,
I don't think in any way, shape or form that
when you look at Daniel Jones that you get overly.

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You know it doesn't come with the flash, the glitz
and glamour that Anthony Richardson does. That goes without saying.
The ceiling is probably not as high to use that buzzword. However,
you do get I think, a better understanding to an
extent of what you're getting into. Shane Stiken talked earlier

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and elaborated on going into week one what it is
exactly that he wants to see from Daniel Jones now
that this is of course his selection at starter.

Speaker 5 (01:08:21):
With him, I'm excited for his opportunity, stay steady, find completions,
keep us on track, you know what I mean. And
at that position, that's what it is. It's finding completions,
moving the football and not mak him by plays worse.
And I talked about the operation. Feel very confident in
his operation at the line of scrimmage, getting this sent
and out of the right place, and I know the
team feels confident in.

Speaker 1 (01:08:41):
That as well.

Speaker 2 (01:08:41):
Okay, I think there's something to be deciphered here. He
also went on and I'll go back to that, but
he also talked about just the overall opportunity now for
Daniel Jones and what this means because this is a
chance for him to show that what happened in New
York was maybe more on New York than Daniel Jones.
Shane Stikeen on the opportunity of proving it for Daniel.

Speaker 5 (01:09:01):
Yeah, absolutely, a new environment, new opportunity for him to
go and prove it.

Speaker 6 (01:09:05):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 5 (01:09:06):
He's had success in this league. He's had his ups
and down, like I said, but it's a great opportunity
for him on Sunday in this season to go prove it.

Speaker 2 (01:09:15):
What's interesting is when you look at what he talked
about and what he wants to see from Jones. What
he is saying there is things like moving the ball,
putting the football in the right place, not turning a
bad play into a worse play operation at the line.

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These are the things that Shane Stikeen has been screaming
to us from day one, and it's almost like we
didn't want to listen to it. And what I mean
by that is he is making it clear.

Speaker 1 (01:09:52):
I need.

Speaker 2 (01:09:54):
A I just simply need somebody to keep their hands
on the wheel. I don't want someone that's weaving in
and out of traffic. I need somebody that knows when
it's time to just simply pull over to the side
and let traffic run itself out. I need better decision making.

(01:10:15):
I don't think that Shane Stiken looks at the Colts
offense and looks at the weapons on their offense and
looks at Michael Pittman Jr. And looks at Tyler Warren
and looks at Josh Downs and looks at Adie Mitchell,
and looks at Alec Pierce, and looks at Jonathan Taylor,
and looks at Tyler Goodson and looks at the players
that he has there. I don't think Shane Steiken looks
at that and says, what we need here is a

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guy that is able to create. I think he is saying, look,
we have all of the pieces there to create for them.
I need somebody that is situational and understands the canvas
in front of them and knows that they have all

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the colors they need, all of the paint brushes they need,
and all of the visuals they need. We just needed
to put it on the canvas. And I think they
saw in Richardson they are intrigued by still what the
possibility is because of his God given talents. But I

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think that Shane Steichen is screaming to everybody and doing
everything but putting it on that billboard on four sixty
five on the northwest side that's the most seen in
Indianapolis that I think is still paying tribute to Julia Reagan,
rest her soul. But the I think what he is
saying to all of us is I don't need right
now the guy that is going to hit the home

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run from time to time, because we have enough pieces
here that simple base hits are going to get runs
across the plate for us. And that's what he's hoping
to see out of Daniel Jones, operational, situational and understanding
of limitation and not trying to break through that barrier.

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And if Daniel Jones is able to do that and
is able to move the football with bass hits instead
of the occasional home run, then I think they're going
to be okay because they have a good defense and
they do have good pieces in balance. They don't have
anything that blows you away, per se, but they have
good balance across their roster. And I still believe they

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have the make and maybe I'm listen, I am welcoming
the city of Indianapolis to tell me I am the
biggest moron on the planet. But I truly do think
they could go ten and seven. I'm going to go
with ten and seven, and that's we're factoring in health
because you never know with injury. You know that if

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Jonathan Taylor and DeForest Buckner and Zaire Franklin and Nick
Cross all get hurt in week one, you know, Okay, fine,
I get it then, But I think if barring major
injury across the board, they the pieces to be better
than people think. The problem is, then you're kind of
stuck in that middle where it's hard to get out

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of that ten and seven, eleven and six, nine and eight,
eight and nine range.

Speaker 1 (01:13:10):
It's just hard to get out of that.

Speaker 2 (01:13:12):
Indiana against Old dominion impressive to an extent, but was
their area for concern. Our friend from the Bloomington Herald Times,
Mike joins us. Next, So we know that Purdue got
a big win on Saturday over ball State and listen
for the Boilers. And I mean, this is no disrespect

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to ball State, Perdue anything. I mean Purdue is we
don't know what Barry odem has, right. I mean, that's
an almost entirely new roster, a lot of new faces there,
and what you wanted to see from Purdue, I think,
and understandably so was simply what they are kind of preaching,

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which is just a more disciplined, laden, hard nose, you know,
smart football, and I think Produce showed that. Now for
the Boilers, you and Indiana both it is hard to
know what a team is after one game, and especially
before you get into the thick of the schedule. But
Indiana in particular, you know, Kurt Signetti has made no

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bones about the fact that this is the way we're
going to do it. The SEC model of scheduling. You
start out with Old Dominion, then Kennesaws State and Indiana State,
and then boom, reality hits because you get Illinois, you
get Iwall, you get Oregon right out of the box.
But let's talk about ODU and Indiana and what was
good or bad for the Hoosiers if we can even
determine either. Joining us now on the always busy and

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available for your company to sponsor guest line he is
with the Bloomington Herald Times. I know that it's not
the telephone Bloomington Herald Times. Our friend from Bloomington, Mike,
joins us on the program Mike, let's begin right away
with that, and that is when you were able to
assess this Indiana team. What was a questionquestion that you
had going in that you felt like you got a

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better answer on after game number one?

Speaker 6 (01:15:07):
An interesting question. I mean I thought, look, the veterans
all kind of acclimated and there was no sort of
I mean, you talk about giving the first big run
and you know there was no panic. This is a
very laden team. And even though I think they struggled,
this wasn't a team that kind of lost itself like
they were. You know, they respotted each time right the

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punt return. You know, they had the run zone struggles,
but they still put together long drives like nothing snowballed. Yeah,
it didn't look great, didn't look perfect, but I think
you saw kind of the leadership. You saw sort of
all the veteran presence on both sides of the ball that, look,
we're going to get this done, even though maybe it
doesn't look quite as pretty.

Speaker 2 (01:15:48):
Do you if there was an area Mike that an
open disclaimer, I didn't see the game live, right. I
went back and I watched highlights of it and looked
at the box score and et cetera. A little bit
name I realized, but I was working a race this weekend.
But I saw the vast majority of it, and it's
easy to say, well, I mean, yeah, they gave up

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a big run right at the beginning. This idiot's going
to say the run defense. Look, but it seemed like
they were susceptible to at times chunk yardage plays. Now
does that mean nitpicking from afar or is that an
accurate area of concern?

Speaker 6 (01:16:22):
Well, it was too basically that was a book under
the game with the long runs. I think what's concerning
about it is that, you know, the lasting image of
the last game last year was the long run they
gave up. I know that wasn't a quarterback, but Jeremi
Love obviously with the touchdown run. That sort of changed
that complexion of that game. And you know, you do
it right at the start in Week one. That's a concern.
And then the other part of it is that you're

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going to face mobile quarterbacks here, you know, five or
six times this season, and so with all those guys
on your schedule, when your quarterback run defense shows some
significant issues, even though you know, you know, really relegated
to two plays I do think it's a concern. You
got to get it cleaned up, You got to get
it fixed just because of what you've you know, you've

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now shown those teams kind of on your schedule like,
hey there's an opening here. We got to prove that
we can can stop those things. You'll get another chance
this weekend against Kennesaw State. But I mean you have
a couple of those in the Big Ten as well,
and so you got to be you know, Ryan Leonard
really hurt them last year. They couldn't you know, get
him down and then and then obviously they allow the
big run. But I just think it's a you don't
want it to be a symptom of a larger problem.

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And you know, obviously you can't be happy when you
give up to you know, look as many seventy plus
yards as they gave up all last season. So you know,
not great in one game, what.

Speaker 2 (01:17:36):
Did you think of for Nanda Mendoza, Uh, you.

Speaker 6 (01:17:41):
Know you saw he made he makes the beautiful throw
to Omar Cooper Junior. You know, fifty plus yards effortless
and you know Cooper drops. It doesn't help them out,
But I mean in that moment, you kind of saw like,
oh yeah, this guy can make all these throws. I
think what you also saw was a quarterback that maybe
he's getting used to having time in the pocket. You know,
how many times did he get his to his fourth

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option last year at Cal when he was sacked forty times?
You know, he was thinking one read to read quick
quick outs, you know, and doing a lot of those things,
better aggressions, getting the ball to his targets. I think
he saw start in the third quarter a little bit.
You know, he got people involved because I mean everything
in the first court first half really was to EJ. Williams,
you know, five or five catches and Surat didn't have any,

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and so, you know, I think it's a work in
progress a little bit. I kind of assumed, you know, look,
yes he has you know, basically a season and a
half of experienced but Curtis Rore came in with like
five years of practice under his belt and multiple years
of starting beyond just just you know, one full season,
like he was a more fully formed product. I think
Mendoza has the higher ceiling with his arm, but I

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do think you know, these are almost like a preseason here,
ramping up until we get to Illinois, and I think
it's good experience he gets in this offense, and I
think he'll look better here. And you know, three weeks,
three four weeks. But I kind of maybe expected a
little bit of what we say all just because you know,
this was a new you know, completely new system from
new offensive line. He's got to get used to. You know,

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you pick up some bad habits when you're running for
your life every snap.

Speaker 2 (01:19:09):
Do you more commonly refer to yourself as Michael or
Mike Mike Gang Because I noticed your bylines, you know,
your professional things are Michael. I wanted to be respectful
of which way you prefer to be addressed.

Speaker 6 (01:19:23):
It's it's it's I really don't nitpick, but Mike is
probably the more common. But yes, everything on my byelines
is Michael.

Speaker 2 (01:19:30):
Again, Michael, better known as Mike to his friends and family,
which we consider ourselves both from the Herald Times in
Bloomington talking about Indiana football here on the guest line, Mike,
when you look at the Big Ten in general, because
I think, you know, it's just so fascinating now with
college football right out of the box. You've got, you know,
in Clemson and LSU. You know, that one of a

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top five team is going to lose. That happened to
be Clemson, Ohio State, Texas, same thing, Texas on the
short end, Notre Dame, Miami, Notre Dames down one. But yeah,
with the twelve team playoff, now you already here in September,
start keeping an eye on it. The Big Ten has
kind of power played this of creating the narrative of
multiple Big Ten teams and et cetera. How many this

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year do you think the Big Ten? Really? What is
the number? I don't mean the teams. What's the number
you think the Big Ten could get in?

Speaker 6 (01:20:23):
Four? Yeah? I mean that's that's the number I believe. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:20:27):
Okay, so those four you're looking at it and you say,
I mean, Ohio State pretty safe, Penn State pretty safe
barring disasters here, right, I think you'd say Oregon. Right, Yes,
Indiana's right in that mix. So they going into it,
they may be approaching things differently psychologically than a year

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ago in what way because a year ago, I don't
know that anybody was talking Indiana college football. Maybe kurtz
Signetti behind closed doors, but nobody nationally was. How is
Indiana handling that sort of a national Diskinson attention or microscope.

Speaker 6 (01:21:05):
Well, I think they were. I mean, they were basically
in that eye of the storm at the end of
last year when people kind of uh you know, kind
of Michigan on were kind of every.

Speaker 2 (01:21:13):
Week Well I know, but I mean, but just in
terms of the outset of the season, I mean, like
this particular year, this September looks different than the last September.

Speaker 6 (01:21:20):
How But my point is I think that prepared them
for being like they've literally been the topic of discussions
since then, right, and so they've kind of had to
deal with all of that, and so they had to
play under that and obviously, you know, responded beat Michigan
and then crushed Purdue to even get in the playoffs.
So I think you saw a little of that and
it hasn't sort of stopped, and so like, I don't

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think they are foreign to it. And also, uh, you know,
the JMU kids were ten and oh I believe the
year before. So like, I mean, the core of this,
I think team has dealt with a little bit of that.
And obviously he brought some transfers that you know, Patkugan
had Notre Dame guy that knows how to play sort
of under that spotlight and expectation. So I do think

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this team is probably more prepared than they were, maybe
even even last year as they sort of faced that,
because you know, there's a lot to put on a team.
But now they've sort of had the run up and
I think there's mostly sort of turned it off. I
know a lot of the guys talks about kind of
deleting social media and kind of ignoring all that that
conversation and not paying any attention to it, and I
think they've used it more as fuel in terms of, like, look,

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because most of the stuff has been questioning whether Indiana
blongs right and people saying they don't. I don't think
it's been flowers they've been getting for being part of
the playoff picture. It's been quite the opposite, like people
question their schedule, people calling them a fluke, And these
are a lot of guys that weren't heavily recruited, you know,
felt ignored for by power for teams, and they've sort
of added this to be like, look, we need to

(01:22:44):
prove them wrong. And so you know, I don't think
that the uneven performance I don't sort of attribute to
that part of it like dealing with expectations. Like, I
think that part they'll be fine. I just think this
was a new team that you know, obviously didn't get
anything right in week one, but it's gonna when, you know,
come back and try to get it fixed. But no,
to your point, I think it's a team that will

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be able to sort of handle the spotlight when it comes,
you know. I think that it's gonna be huge that
Illinois Indiana game on the tour twentieth. I mean, that'll
be a real big point, you know, uh, get talked
up because Illinois obviously he's getting kind of some of
the you know, chatter about being the next Indiana. Then
in two weeks after that, the organ game. Those are
big moments that I think they'll be able to handle.

Speaker 2 (01:23:23):
Hey, what kind of dude is Kurt Signetti? I mean
we know what he's like as a coach, you know,
but what, like I assume you've been around him a
little bit, what kind of dude is he?

Speaker 6 (01:23:32):
I mean, he is what he is, right Like, I mean,
I don't think anything that he does is for show,
right like, I mean, like it's he's the you're getting
the genuine article when he's at the podium. And this
is basically, you know, from what I've been told, how
he's been his entire career. And you know, I know
people have covered him in the past, and you know,

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he said he's a film guy. Like he's not lying.
Like when I've I've interviewed him, sat down and he
you know, kind of pulled up his computer and showed
me what he was doing. And it's like film like
it's it's it's just you know, he goes through it
and sorts all this stuff and spends hours on it.
I mean, that's just that's what he is.

Speaker 2 (01:24:09):
Hey, what do you think of the Mike Nize, Like,
as our guest from the Bloomington Herald Times, what did
you think of the Bison? It's the debut of the Bison.
Your thoughts.

Speaker 6 (01:24:19):
I mean, it's did a nice job with the production
of it. I'm with the plane. I don't know if
you saw the you know, the the replay of him
flying on the plane that's around.

Speaker 3 (01:24:29):
Right.

Speaker 6 (01:24:30):
Yeah, And so you know, one of the things it
ties back to, honestly, what Kurtz they said about improving
the atmosphere and giving people you know, he shotted the
fans for leaving it halftime. But the idea of giving
people a reason to stay, giving kids a reason to stay,
all that ties in. You're trying to you know, improve
the you know, be with the big boys and and
and you know, it seems silly that a mascot would

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be part of that, but it is. It's it's the
atmosphere making it, you know, giving fans the reason to
come and and and get loud and do things, and
that just adds all to it.

Speaker 2 (01:25:01):
You know, kids can join the Who's Your Buddies? Uh,
the Who's Your Bison Buddies Club?

Speaker 1 (01:25:05):
Eddie?

Speaker 2 (01:25:05):
Would you like to join the Hoo's Your Bison Buddies Club?

Speaker 1 (01:25:08):
I'm not a kid, I know, as much as you
like I think I am.

Speaker 2 (01:25:11):
I know, but I'm a big fan of mascots and
like they give out T shirts and the whole deal.
You think I could rig it? Just sign up for it.
Be a I'd like to be a Hoo's Your Bison Buddy?

Speaker 1 (01:25:19):
Mike.

Speaker 2 (01:25:20):
Do you have kids? Are theyre Who's your Bison Buddy?

Speaker 6 (01:25:22):
I do have kids, They're not Who's your Bison Buddies? Yet? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:25:25):
Oh yet? Yes? Yeah, that's right.

Speaker 6 (01:25:28):
We'll see, we'll see what the bison does. We'll see
how he does. They're gonna wait, you gotta look at
them films.

Speaker 2 (01:25:33):
The bison's here for the long haul though, right they're not.
They're not packing in early on the bison. He's here
for good.

Speaker 6 (01:25:38):
You know, we'll see I go. Well, if they had
lost that game, I don't know, does he go right
the plan?

Speaker 2 (01:25:42):
Like like in like seventy eight or whatever it was.
They brought the bison out for like three weeks. He
had a big nose ring, and then all of a
sudden he went back to whatever band he was with.
We never heard from you.

Speaker 6 (01:25:50):
You never know. He said that he could change his mind.

Speaker 1 (01:25:53):
Apparently he liked a roam. Well, we get a life
bison at one point, that'd be awesome.

Speaker 2 (01:25:57):
But Colorado's kind of Colorado's kind. I've got the market
on that, unfortunately, but that's a buffalo, not a bison.
Right all right, Mike, we appreciate the time as always. Man,
look forward to talking to you again.

Speaker 6 (01:26:07):
Absolutely, guys, thanks for having me.

Speaker 2 (01:26:09):
Mike Nisilik joining us from the Bloomington Herald Times. I
think you know when they say that who's your bison
Buddies Club? It of course, reminds me of Buddy's.

Speaker 1 (01:26:18):
Buddy my Body.

Speaker 2 (01:26:21):
No, first that I in like the year two thousand,
First that I decided to go to a Reds game.
And so he picks me up to go to the
Reds game and I walk out and he looks at me,
and I look at him and boy, and we were
wearing the exact same shorts and exact same T shirt.
We looked like twins. It was horrifically embarrassing. So I

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think one of us we stopped at like the Walmart
and Batesville on the way down and bought a different
colored T shirt. So then we go to the Reds game,
and we decide that we're going to do a nightcap
by going by driving across the Louisville and going to
the Louisville river Bats game, which sounded like a good
idea until about halfway across sixty four and we're like,
we're tired. So we go and we're slow, and we
go to the Louisville river Bats game. And my favorite

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story of all time that I've told they the river
Bats had a mascot named Buddy Buddy the Bat. Now
he's a bat, Like, yeah, that's exactly what it except
for its now you would think because they're the Louisville Bats,
like Louisville slugger, that like it's a wooden bat.

Speaker 1 (01:27:22):
No, it's like a flying bat.

Speaker 2 (01:27:23):
Right, So Buddy the bat has some little bit he
does where he takes a go kart and he does
laps around the outfield, which was pretty exciting and fun
during the seventh inning stretch. But he went a little
hot in the left field and the left side rubber
touched the touch the warning track, causing a massive flip.
And this this bat and kids are in the crowd, right,

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and they're agast in horror as this literally all of
a sudden, this go krt goes flying through the air
and Buddy is you know, you could see like one
little wing flap and then Buddy lands, which is he
looked to be okay until the go kart landed on
top of him, leading to and aghast of horror amongst
the twelve hundred fans in attendance and snickering from two

(01:28:06):
people that are wearing the same colored shorts and myself
and Day first and for whatever reason, we found this
and then they came over the loud speaker and said,
and I quote, don't worry kids, buddies buddies on his
way and this some college in turn that more waddled
than ran had to work his way out to the
outfield and then lift the go kart up over and

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then the like broken winged bat had to limp his
way back to the dugout. And this is literally and
this is a sign of my maturation. This is the
first time in a quarter century I've told that story
without breaking into like absolute complete tear covered.

Speaker 1 (01:28:44):
Laughter, not even a giggle.

Speaker 2 (01:28:46):
I know, well, I've told the story so many times,
but it was awesome.

Speaker 1 (01:28:52):
Story about Michael Young and the plane incident. Though you'll
be able to contain yourself.

Speaker 7 (01:28:57):
Ever, don't worry kids, buddies, buddies, buddies, buddies on its
way out and like kids are sheer horror and terror,
and Dave and I are slap happy and justay, okay,
that first might actually now be a member of the
Hooser Bison Buddies Club, just based on the fact if

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I send him this picture that the Hooser Bison Buddies
Club is taking members, he'll immediately think a buddy's buddy.

Speaker 1 (01:29:24):
I guarantee it. Then the flapping wing. Do it?

Speaker 2 (01:29:28):
I will, I'll sit it to him right now and
see what he says. Matt Berderan, by the way, in
just over ten, you know the Hoosier The Hoosier Bison
Buddies Club. They have two membership groups, Eddie Cream and Crimson.
Which one would you like for me to sign up for?
You now? The Crimson Club you get it looks like

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you get a Buddies Club tailgate member hailgate, but they
get the kids out there tailgating. Who's your Bison Buddies
Club rally towel? You get with the Cream membership.

Speaker 1 (01:30:08):
Saying Cream on the radio sounds inappropriate.

Speaker 2 (01:30:10):
You get to meet who's your the Bison and a
meet and greet. Well, that sounds fun, right, shake hooves shacobs,
Yeah uh. You get exclusive who's your Bison Buddies Club
goodies like sunglasses, a water bottle and a wristband.

Speaker 1 (01:30:26):
Who's your Bison?

Speaker 7 (01:30:28):
Now?

Speaker 2 (01:30:28):
If you do the Cream membership, you get a membership badge,
a T shirt, free admission to Olympic Sports and hoo's
your Bison Buddies Club tour?

Speaker 1 (01:30:41):
Well, you're leaving out a part of the difference between
the two Jake.

Speaker 2 (01:30:48):
One's free and one's not. Right there, you go, yeah,
well that, I'll sign you up for the freebie. You
just don't get I don't think you get to bump hoofs.
But other than that, everything's good.

Speaker 1 (01:31:02):
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:31:03):
I'm all in on the bison. I'm cool with it.
Like when he came, when he skydied, I'm like, okay,
this is cool.

Speaker 1 (01:31:08):
Now it's worth noting, Jake that tailgate is only against
kannesas state.

Speaker 2 (01:31:13):
What sort of tailgating do they have for the members
of the Hoo's Your Bison Buddies Club? Do they serve bison?
That would seem cannibalistic? I would think, you know, well,
it's kind of.

Speaker 1 (01:31:25):
Like the State Fair. You go from the swine Bar
next thing, you know, there's all this pork right outside
the swine Bar Fair.

Speaker 2 (01:31:32):
Yes, there has to be a separation of reality, a
suspension of reality.

Speaker 7 (01:31:37):
There.

Speaker 2 (01:31:38):
Uh, the the Hoo's Your Bison Buddies Club. The tailgate
for the kiddies. What do they have like unlimited little debbies?
Is it sponsored by or is it more like the
Peanuts characters and it's sponsored by Dolly Madison snack cakes.
I'm down with it. Now, if you're looking at mascots
in the Big Ten, and you know that, I've got
to I love mascots. The high art a Big ten mascots. Okay,

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here we go.

Speaker 1 (01:32:01):
You ready.

Speaker 2 (01:32:04):
We could do this fairly quickly with Ohio State. You
obviously got what's the fellows named Brutus? Yes, Brutus, and
he's boorish?

Speaker 1 (01:32:11):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:32:11):
Then Michigan, do they have a wolverine? I don't think so?
Is Chief Alion? I weck they he went away on vacation, right,
and he's not come back. I think Chief Ali I
wec has been. He's retired, he lives in a retirement home.
He's gone at Illinois. What's the fellaw's name? The gopher?
Is there a gopher? Does he have a name?

Speaker 1 (01:32:29):
They do have a gopher?

Speaker 2 (01:32:31):
Look up his name? I bet it's Goldie Goldie the Gophers.
My guess, the Hawkeye, it is Goldie the go Is
it really Goldie the gopher?

Speaker 6 (01:32:41):
Heck?

Speaker 2 (01:32:41):
Yeah, okay. Then the hawkeye, what's his name? Does he
have a name? I mean, he's okay, but he's just
kind of a you know, he's got a herky excuse
me herky. Yeah, he's off the list. Right there, Me
the Hawk. Okay, then you got Purdue Pete, right, pretty Pete, solid,

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no doubt about that. Uh, Bucky the Badger, right, he's good.
I got no problem with him. What's Northwestern? What's the
wildcat's name? He's okay, does he have a name, I'll
look it up. Okay, I'd like to know.

Speaker 1 (01:33:18):
I mean Willie the Wildcat. Excuse me, Willy? I mean
that's his head doesn't fit his shoulders. He's a mascot.
What what are you getting?

Speaker 2 (01:33:30):
We're getting into dimensions like tiny? Look who's talking? Hell,
you're like pretty Pete over there. Hey, there's no shame
in my game. You and your nine and three a's head? Okay?

Speaker 3 (01:33:43):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:33:44):
The Oregon Duck. It goes without saying. I mean that's
you know, you're you're looking at the very top there.
You don't like cream again, But I'll say crim to
La crim on the Oregon Duck. Washington Husky. Do they
they don't have a guy?

Speaker 1 (01:33:53):
Do they?

Speaker 2 (01:33:55):
Herky the husky or something? I don't forget about. Sparty, Oh, Sparty,
that's a good one. Already goes without saying. Harry the Husky,
Harry the Husky not bad. I'm down with that. That's
I mean, I'm okay with Harry. Okay, then usc does
the Trojan have a name? He just rides around on
a horse, right.

Speaker 1 (01:34:13):
But it's a live guy, right, Traveler. Excuse me, that's
the name of the maskot Traveler. Yeah, I mean I
get the point there.

Speaker 2 (01:34:23):
But now and then the Bruin does he have a name?
The Bruin's not bad, I think in the hierarchy here,
I mean, Joe Bruin. Joe, Are you serious?

Speaker 6 (01:34:36):
His name is.

Speaker 1 (01:34:37):
Joe Joe Brewin?

Speaker 6 (01:34:39):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:34:40):
What is the origin there?

Speaker 4 (01:34:41):
What?

Speaker 2 (01:34:41):
Like? Is there a guy Joe? I mean, do they
have a contest at the Perkins of bel Air? And
some guy named Joe came up with it in nineteen
forty eight? Because the cow bear in the UCLA brewin
both our uniforms that the mascot outfits look like they
bought him in a garage sale like seventy four years ago.
The cow bear is flat out creepy looking. And this

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is cal Berkeley is one of the most prestigious universities
in America, and their mascot is terrible. I mean, he's
kind of fun because he's so he looks like an
old style teddy Bear, which is kind of cool, but
there's an element of creepy to it. Did you did
you look up the origin of you said Joe the
Bruin like Joe average? Does he drink a lot of coffee?

(01:35:26):
Is that what's going on there?

Speaker 1 (01:35:27):
I'm not sure.

Speaker 2 (01:35:28):
I think automatically who's your Bison and his buddies are
Laphene and Joe Brewin.

Speaker 1 (01:35:34):
Excuse me, Justphine and Joe Brewing. They're a married couple.

Speaker 2 (01:35:38):
I think Who's your Bison is automatically wedging himself right
in the middle of the pack at the very least.
Ducks up there got decapitated over the weekend. That was
rough for the kids, but the Oregon duck is high
on the list. Predue Pete goes without saying until they
redid Predue Pete that one year, and that lasted about
as long as that seventies bison. I'm just telling you,

(01:35:59):
Todd Myers walk down walks in. It means I'm about
to get shastised over our mascot talk. And it's probably
a good idea because Matt Verdram joins us and does
so next.

Speaker 1 (01:36:09):
As I mentioned earlier, I don't know what.

Speaker 2 (01:36:11):
To think of the fact that in our time together,
that's the best audio Eddie Garrison can come up with
to commemorate the fact that it is, in fact, like
a completely meaningless birthday. I mean, I don't every birthday
is meaningful, but fifty three doesn't rank where like fifty
or sixty or you know that. I'm at the point
now where it's just the decades only. But in fact,

(01:36:33):
thank you to everybody who has wished me a happy birthday.
It is greatly appreciated. And I am well aware of
the fortunes you know of kind of living the dream
truth be told and with me, that's right, that's the
biggest fortune ever. It is the why win the one
billion power ball where you can spend a day with
me every day? Yeah, well, I can tell you not

(01:36:57):
that I've done the numbers, but it would be three
hundred and twelve million dollars after taxes that you walk
away with, and that would probably mean that Eddie, you're
hosting on Wednesday or Thursday or whatever day after the drawing.
But nonetheless, I do appreciate everybody listening to this show
and making that every day possible for us, joining us
now on the program on the always busy guest line.

(01:37:18):
Of course, he is with Sports Illustrated. We talk a
lot of football with him, and he is a huge
fan of the Taco Bell Cantina. We've talked about that downtown.
Matt Verderram joining us on the show. Matt, how are you?

Speaker 3 (01:37:29):
I'd be better if I wasn't a Taco Bell CANTEENA
but I'm fine. How are you doing?

Speaker 1 (01:37:33):
We're good? Thank you. Listen.

Speaker 2 (01:37:35):
I'm going to begin right right out of the box
with this. I'm very curious of the national perspective here
because I feel like and I fear, and I want
you to tell me if I'm wrong. I worry that
the Colts have actually become this franchise that you know,
we put in the same category as like the Arizona

(01:37:57):
Cardinals or the shar or the Carol of Panthers, like
if you, if you weren't in market, they're kind of
nationally obscure and anonymous. Is that where Indianapolis is now?

Speaker 3 (01:38:10):
Yeah? I mean to be honest, to be brutally honest. Yeah,
I think I think a lot of it is just
the quarterback situation and you look at it and go,
all right, what is the realistic ceiling for that team,
like if everything reasonable, you know, good health, no, no
crazy dad luck? Like what if it is the division?

(01:38:33):
The division is sexy, like nobody, nobody in that division
stands out. I mean cam Ward is the number.

Speaker 6 (01:38:37):
One picking the draft.

Speaker 3 (01:38:38):
He's a quarterback. I can't think of a quarterback because
the numb one picking the draft has been talked about
last cam Warden. It feels it you barely exist nationally.
Jacksonville is not a not a team that Audill spend
a lot time talking about. Thank Houston last year had buzz.
This year it's the opposite. But the cults, it's just no.
I was at camp, I saw them. They're a part

(01:38:59):
of the tour. And I I think the roster is good,
like I really do like the roster. But when you
look at those quarterbacks, I think from a national perspective,
you just go, well, yeah, we're in a conference in
Maholmes and Borrow and Allen and Lamar and Shroud and
Herbert and the Sohmer. They're not going to be relevant.
Could have a quarterback, you know, the.

Speaker 2 (01:39:19):
Matt I keep going back to this and at the
quarterback position, I'm weighing back and forth, And I want
you to tell me because you have a better perspective here,
because you look around and you cover multiple franchises. You
know we're pigeonholed a little bit to our understanding, being Indianapolis.
You have a better barometer of comparison. Do you believe

(01:39:44):
that Daniel Jones has been selected by Shane Steichen as
the starting quarterback because they really feel that Daniel Jones
could be getting a second lease here and with a
better roster, can be a better quarterback than what we
saw in New York at no fault of his own,
or do you believe it simply is because they just
don't think they can go with Anthony Richardson.

Speaker 3 (01:40:05):
So I think it's a combination of a few things.
And look, one of them is I remember the Dad
was there. It was about a hundred degrees, but it
was I remember I was there with Jeremy Fowler of ESPN,
Zach Kiefer of course of the Athletic, and then uh,
there was another gentleman from USAFA. I'm getting his name,
but we were in a breakout group with an Day Richardson,

(01:40:27):
and at one point I've get which one was asking
the question. He was talking and in a power phrase,
but he essentially said, we know, I've just learned that
I've got to stop slacking off. And he said that.
We all just kind of looked at each other, like
that's a that's a hell of a quote from a quote.
I let my camp report with it. That is, maybe
wants to check it out and read you can read exactly.
And I remember walking out of it. I think this

(01:40:48):
guy's not gonna win this show. There's just no way,
Like I mean, even if that's true, and he's totally
bought in and he's one hundred, like you've been here,
there is a third year you in here, and like
that's your that's like where you're at right now, Like
you've got a tryrd. I just I And maybe he
meant it another way. Who knows, I'm not him, but
the way he said that is, that's that's alarming. And
I think, look last year when he pulled himself out

(01:41:10):
of that game in Houston. I know the Colts tried
to downplay that. Anybody who's ever been in the locker room,
that's a hard thing. Come back. You're the quarterback. You
don't play yourself out of the game unless you're dead
or your told to come out of the game. But
that's I mean, there is just no other way. And
so I think part of it was they saw I
did to go Jones. The other part of it is
Stichen looks at Daniel Jones and she's a guy who

(01:41:31):
has mobility, who completes a high percentage of his passes,
and who doesn't throw interceptions. And I think he looks
at that and says, if he can just do that
well for thirty five hundred yards and eighteen touchdowns, but
he plis five picks, I can win with that guy.
Can we can play better defense we played a year ago.
We can run the heck out of the ball, We

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can let our playmakers make plays, and we can go
nine and eight and be competitive in this division, maybe
even somehow sneak it out. I think that's what he
sees in Jones, where Iliga Richardson and go he might
complete forty nine percent of his passes untrol fifteen picks.
That you can't win like that in the NFL. I
think that was ultimately the decision.

Speaker 2 (01:42:10):
Do you think, Matt You know, Chris Ballard publicly, I'm
not saying that. I believe this, but publicly, and I
understand it, Chris Ballard still stands by Anthony Richardson and says,
and I know Anthony Richardson's young. I don't think he's
a bad guy, you know whatever. Do you think the
rest of the league feels that way? If if Arizona
or Caroline, I mean in certain name of franchise, if

(01:42:33):
somebody said to them, hey, you can have Anthony Richardson
for a fifth round or right now, would they be
tempted by that or do you think the rest of
the league thinks, no, thanks.

Speaker 3 (01:42:42):
I think that for that kind of a compensation, yes,
I think they would have a lot of suitors. But
if I'm in Danapolis, I'm sitting there going, look, Daniel
Jones is a guy long term. I mean, let's just
face it, like he's another guy and cole fan don't
want to hear because they've had one guy after next
and Daniel Larcker hired. But Daniel Jones a bridge to
hopefully not another bridge, hopefully the actual the actual guy.

(01:43:05):
So I think the culture sitting there going, look, if
he trade Richardson, what do we do, Like what if
Joanes is terrible for the first month of the season.
What if he's awful and we're gonna go back to
Richardson Now, look, that might be between the rock and
hard place at that point. But you know, I actually
wondered if like a team like the Saints would call

(01:43:25):
the Colts up and say, hey, look, we'll give you
We'll give you a third round pick for him, well
you know, third, fourth round, you know, and then they
don't have the fourth thweenth trade Bailey fifty Denver Bailey,
but like, we'll give you a third you know, and
maybe maybe it's one of these things where hey, look
it's conditional, like he becomes over here and he plays great,
that like you'll get like a date re pick two
down the road or something. And I thought they if

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like a team like New Orleans did that, like maybe
at that point we're indo, You're like, okay, look their
third round pick is based like a late second.

Speaker 6 (01:43:53):
But it's tough.

Speaker 3 (01:43:54):
There's just there's a lot going against Richton right now.
He has not been good. He has also been in
there's also questions about like committed are you? And then
there's also the other side of it too, where it's like, look,
you just got benched for Daniel Jones VI king it's
fourth overall a couple of years ago. Well, they didn't
mention him because they signed Aaron Rodgers, right, they pasted
it for Daniel Jones, who's on a one year contract,

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who's on the Vikings practice squat last year. Like, it's
just really hard to get any value for a guy
who's in that kind of situation.

Speaker 2 (01:44:24):
Yeah, and I think he's also in this real danger zone, Matt,
And you correct me if I'm wrong here. Where the
part of the stigma with Richardson is this point is
the fact that it's between the years. And I don't
mean to say that his lack of intellect, but his
lack I mean there have been very very good, sharp,
excellent TV analyst guys that when the arrows are flying

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past him at the quarterback position, just simply could not process.
And that's I think that's the biggest danger is the
narrative is that he can't process. And am I correct
in saying that's a real hard thing get away from.

Speaker 3 (01:45:01):
It's a death sentence. I mean, if you can't do that,
there's no there's no fixtion in that You're not just
all of a sudden I learned how to p I've
always compared the NFL quarterback position to standing on a freeway.
I mean, it's basically like trying to play quarterback on
a freeway. And you've got to be able to stand
in there, read the progressions, understand, and I think this

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is the most underrated thing with fans. You've got to
understand what's going on pre snap. You've got to get
out of the huddle and to the line of scrimmage
fifteen or so seconds on that clock and understand, okay,
reading the safety, I'm getting a single high look. I
now know that my ex receiver he's going to be
open on this on this curl route, and I've got
to make sure I hold the safety and then you
and you've got to do all that in the stand

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up about seven eight seconds, maybe ten if you get
to the line quick enough. And then if you're wrong,
you've got to be able to adjust. If you're right,
you've got to be able to execute what you know
you've got to do and do all that well, you've
got four or five guys who are running up fo
or five or two hundred and sixty pounds coming at
you like it's it's hard. There's a reason in the

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NFL how many quarterbacks are truly elite players correct six
sas it is mentally difficult.

Speaker 2 (01:46:15):
Who's the best in the league at that. I mean,
I know that Alan and Mahomes are outstanding at improvising
when the arrows are flying once they're in the freeway, right,
But give me a guy that doesn't maybe get his
proper due for it. But you're like, man, that guy
is the computer is going the second he breaks.

Speaker 3 (01:46:34):
The huddle, I would say it's Burrow, Like I think,
I think Burrow when you watch him, he very rarely
makes mistake. I mean, he he'll drawing a police on
anybody else, but he very rarely does he just throw
a ball or it's he shouldn't go. I mean, he's
he's very very smart that way. I do think Malmes

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is underrated in that regard because he's so spectacular post step.
But there are a lot of times in Mahomes where
you watch them. I mean, heck, the game when he's
driving against the Niners in the Super Bowl is massiful.
I mean, if you watch the mic up of that,
he's telling the guys before they're even breaking the huddle.
For even sees or a defense. Hey I'm coming to you.
I'm gonna throw the ball right here, I mean, and

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that comes with experience. There are certain eyes where it's
just the brain works the right way. They're brilliant attic Manning,
of course, I mean, you could argue he was the
best ever at at where he would just he was
his own offensive coordinator, right, yeah, he was really the
last guy to just call his own plays. And the
truly great one. The Manning's the Brady even the Mahomes
is like Montana, those guys they win the play before

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it even starts.

Speaker 2 (01:47:39):
But you know, Matt doesn't that, I mean, doesn't that
even even for a Manning. I mean, and listen, I
covered Peyton Manning's career from the time, you know, the
entire time, right even for a Manning, it felt like
it took twenty starts before it started to hit it
before it was finally on the people mover at the
airport right where it's just moving automatically. And that's the

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chat I mean to me. And that's the challenge with
Richardson is at some point you also didn get to
a point where you're too far gone right enough times.

Speaker 3 (01:48:10):
Past, and that's the thing like, and that's why I
was curious to shoo. I thought after they signed Johnson's
they playing. But there was a part of me that
held off writing that because I was, well, if you're
the coult that you just say, to hell with it,
we're gonna play him. We're gonna play him, you know,
as long as he's healthy. Seventeen games and we're just
gonna see did he learn as he goes And by
the end of the year he's a lot better. Now

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apparently they just don't feel that that's goppened. Look, and
this is not just not Anthony Richardson, Like I'll give
you another example in the league right now that's gonna
be talked out a lot more this year because they're
gonna be on national TV starting Week one. Cale Williams
and the Bears, I mean that is a thing. Like
he got sack sixty eight times last year and their
offensive line was not good. The part of that was

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Cale Williams is just hold on to the ball and
get crushed. And if you go back and you watch,
there were times you're like, man, that pol's just got
That guy's opened five yards in front of you and
his first intent, Like you've got to just get rid
of it and the games fact at times, and I
was at OTA's with the Bears. I was at training
camp during the joint practice at the Bears, and but
he hit from million nice plays. There were also times

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I stood next to a four NFL player during one
of the practices. I was sitting there talking to him
and you know, like those guys will do he break
the huddle. He's like, Okay, display he's got to go here,
and that's exactly what it should have happened. But she
hold the football and it's like, look that ball. If
you're holding the ball for three plus seconds in the NFL,
that's death. You're either going to get crushed or something

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bad's probably gonna happen on field. And I think for Richardson,
the thing that's really hurt him is just he has
got an experience. He's been hurt, been out of the lineup,
he didn't play. I mean, he didn't have a thousand
pass attempts between high school and college. It's hard. It's
really hard that the master something when you're not doing.

Speaker 4 (01:49:51):
It, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:49:53):
Matt, I remember Matt verde Rams, our guest from Sports Illustrated.
I remember when going back to Manning and and it's
a famous story around here probably, but early in Manning's
career he was there. They're going through live simulations and
Manning holds onto the football and Tom Moore says, what
do you do? And you got to get rid of
the ball and Manning said, well, nobody was open, and

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Tom Moore said, that's where you're wrong. Everybody on that
field was NFL open. They're not SEC open, but they're
NFL open. And Manning talks about how you had to
learn that, right. The window is is a third of
what it is in terms of the college time. And
I think being able to recognize that, Matt is what
is so hard for guys, right, and even the best,

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even the best, Yeah, I think it struggles to learn that, right.

Speaker 3 (01:50:41):
It's no, it's so true. Look, you know, I was
actually talking to college about all this stuff the other
day about quarterbacks, and you know, look, it's it's when
you're playing Let's just say give Richardson for example, So okay,
you're playing best team. If we're playing Alabama playing Georgia,
that team might have defensively, speaking to four NFL starters

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on it and the rest of those guys are by
NFL standards, are guys like you can throw the ball
past the linebackers here, you can throw on that corner.
That safety runs a four to seven like that guy's
not closing a time you get to the NFL. I
don't care who you are. If you're in the NFL
and you're playing, you're not a four to seven safety.
You're running a four to four to five. You can

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drive on the ball you are. You are breaking on
a ball based on the nation and knowing, Okay, this
guy split his X. I know that based on that,
but he can run these two routes, and I know
that guy runs out the one route three times more
than he runs the other out. And I'm gonna break
before he even throws the football. And that's the start.
That's the game within the game that college doesn't exist.

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The other part of it is if you watch the
college game this Saturday, we'll get the hash marks on
the field, how wide they are. When the balls on
one side of the field. I've talked to coaches about
salot recently. When the balls on one side of the field,
that other side, that wide side is huge. I mean
sekers of space to just split the ball out there
that doesn't exist in the NFL. Right, there's no easy

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little foot throw for eight yards in the NFL. There's
no wide side like that. So it's the openness that
you get on ten fifteen throws in college for plovery
game that doesn't exist at the NFL level.

Speaker 2 (01:52:20):
Okay, Matt, I'm gonna I'm going to introduce you to
this little game we've done. In conclusion, I appreciate your
time at verte Ram because I know you're a busy guy,
especially this time of year. But we've been doing this
all week. I'm gonna give you three categories. I want
you to tell me for each the team that immediately
comes into the head of Matt verte Ram. Okay, I'll
describe the team for this season, and then you tell

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me which one it matches. Okay, Team number one. This
is the team that you haven't thought a lot about.
You haven't written a lot about them, there's not a
lot of conversation about them. But late October early November,
all of a sudden, you're gonna go, are they good?
Like they're six and three now, and and I think

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they might actually be good. And they just kind of
become that team that you're like, yeah, they had a
nice year. They're the Washington Commanders of this year, like
Washington did last year. That team for you this year
is most likely to be who.

Speaker 3 (01:53:13):
They won't go as far as Washington, but I think
it's Knowingley. I think New England's going to make the
playoffs because I think May is good. I think it'd
be really good. Mc daniels is a terrible head coach
because a go offensive coordinator, and Rafel's a very good
head coach. They added a lot in free agency. I
love their draft. I think all four of the first
guys he took to playing Henderson's going to be really
good immediately in the backfield. I don't think they're going

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to challenge Buffalo to win the division, but I think
they're a nine or ten win team.

Speaker 2 (01:53:39):
Okay, team number two. This is one that you know,
there's usually some talk about them, some conversation. They're kind
of slotted as a playoff potential team, and yet all
of a sudden around November, you're going to go, I
don't think this is going to get footing for them
this year, that they're just stuck in neutral and they're
this year's Bengals, and I don't know what's going on.

Speaker 1 (01:54:00):
That's who the Niners.

Speaker 3 (01:54:03):
I just don't don't. I don't see it, Like maybe
I'm dead wrong. I've hurt Kittles older. McCaffrey is not
older for a running back. He's getting older and he's
hurt a lot. Williams is older. Defensively, it's it's it's
two guys. It's Warner and it's Bosa and it is
nobody else. I just I don't know. I think that's
I would not be shocked if they finished starting. I

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think they're like a second okay.

Speaker 2 (01:54:27):
And then lastly, not named the Dallas Cowboys, the franchise
that after a month or so, it's like, here comes
the drama. There was a fight in the locker room.
Supposedly this guy's unhappy. There's tension with the coaches, and
it's like, you know what, this is the Colts bringing
in Jeff Saturday midyear level total dysfunction, and it's just

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a year that is wasted.

Speaker 3 (01:54:52):
That franchise, the team that'll be in Indianapolis on Sunday,
not named the Coults. I just I look at the
Dolphins and I'm not a big like vibes. Guy, I
kind of gets over it. That team has been a
disaster this summer. If anything could go, I feel like
we're like a half a football way from Tyreek Hilton
is like openly asking to be traded during halftime Brown. Yeah, yeah,

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I think they're gonna go to like Evan Washer and
whoever the hell's in the sideline forack game. Tyreek Hilt
just told me he wants to be traded, Like, I
just I don't know. You're looking at it like their
first two games of the Colts and their home to Miami,
their home to New England in Miami, and then by
the building on a Thursday night in week three in Buffalo.
It fuels like they've better win those first two games.
And I don't think they're gonna But if they do,

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like that might be it solved for them a little bit.
If they start out Onto and they're going to Buffalo.
I feel like Mike McDaniel's looking at his job in
like the middle of October. But yeah, I just I
don't see it at all with them. I'd be shocked
if they're.

Speaker 2 (01:55:50):
Good, Eddie, do you haven't had the breaking news sounder?
This is just in things starting to look up towards
the perhaps winning their first season opening game in eleven seasons. Matt,
do you want to buy them? Do you want to guess?
If you get this right, Matt Verdi ram, I will

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actually go down right now. I will have Eddie finish
the show. I will walk down to the Taco Bell
cantina by you gift cards and a box and ship
it out east to you right now. You ready, if
you get this right? The starting quarterback of the opposition,
the last time that the Indianapolis Colts won a game
in Week one was who.

Speaker 3 (01:56:28):
Oh my god, we said it was like eleven years ago,
a f C West AFC. All right, I mean I'll
throw a dar here and say, uh God, almighty, who
was it?

Speaker 6 (01:56:42):
Was it?

Speaker 3 (01:56:42):
Manning?

Speaker 1 (01:56:44):
No?

Speaker 3 (01:56:45):
Was it? Now? Okay, I mean got it was? It
was good.

Speaker 1 (01:56:49):
That's a good guess.

Speaker 3 (01:56:50):
Was it? Did they beat the Raiders?

Speaker 1 (01:56:51):
They did?

Speaker 3 (01:56:53):
Okay, it's just some clown who was a car.

Speaker 1 (01:56:56):
Some clown, he says, it's a Raiders.

Speaker 3 (01:56:59):
A Raider they've been acrocious for twenty five years. It
could have been anybody.

Speaker 1 (01:57:03):
The change position.

Speaker 2 (01:57:04):
The Raiders, by the way, are my pick, Matt for
what you said about the Patriots. I think the Raiders
this year are going to be surprisingly good. Not I'm
not saying great, but I think they're going to be competent.

Speaker 1 (01:57:13):
How's that?

Speaker 3 (01:57:14):
But I mean they could be. The hard thing for
them is just that position. But on the flip side,
I don't think the Chargers are good, so maybe the
Raiders are better than the Chargers. I mean to be interesting,
you know.

Speaker 2 (01:57:25):
For the answer, what if I told you free tattoos
in college?

Speaker 1 (01:57:31):
Oh my god, he switched positions. Yeah, he was in
the pros. Correct, he became a receiver prior to real prior,
baby to real prior.

Speaker 3 (01:57:41):
Yeah, I gotta tell you, I don't know if I'm
hanging the banner of that one. If I'm the colt,
you know.

Speaker 2 (01:57:46):
All the counts is half a win, but we take care.

Speaker 3 (01:57:50):
Yeah, well, I said I when you said it was
the Raiders, I'm like, it's it's gonna be something ridiculous.
I mean, there was a there was a playoff getting
still like Connor Cook or something like. It's some ridiculous
thing that your car got hurt.

Speaker 6 (01:58:01):
Matt mccamoye.

Speaker 2 (01:58:02):
I forgot about that. Yeah, he had a hot girlfriend,
that guy. They kept showing her in the crowd. I
remember that much game wasn't working. Okay, lastly, Matt, are
you going to watch the Dolphins Colts game from Club
Applebee's Huh, I'm.

Speaker 3 (01:58:14):
Actually gonna watch it? No, thank god?

Speaker 6 (01:58:16):
No the answer.

Speaker 3 (01:58:17):
I am gonna watch it from New York, flying out there.
I'm gonna be out there for the weekend, see a
little family, and then work from out there and then
come back and cover Vikings Bears and then Packers Commanders
on Thursday. And uh no, I am gonna. I'll be
keeping an eye though the Colts. If they lose to
the Dolphins, every alarm bell in the world should go off,
but that they have to win that game.

Speaker 2 (01:58:38):
They opened the Colts do they opened it home with
two of them, the Dolphins and the Broncos, two teams
as I mentioned that they may well be if they
are hoping to be a wild team. You know what
I mean, they got to win one.

Speaker 1 (01:58:49):
If not of.

Speaker 3 (01:58:50):
Them, you gotta win the those those games like they
counted a game and a half. You're right, you're talking
about you know, I mean, it's look, I don't think
Miami is gonna be there. But if you're the Colts
sets are gonna be have to win and then Denver.
It's not like Denver's offense is un believe it. Go
out there and wins seventeen thirteen with Daniel Jones.

Speaker 2 (01:59:07):
That's the game plan, right, that's it, Matt. We appreciate it.
Man as always safe travels to you.

Speaker 3 (01:59:13):
All right, Hey, thanks a lot to take care of.

Speaker 2 (01:59:15):
All right, Matt Verderam, who is NonStop energy guy's great
one of the And by the way, if you if
you listen to this, and I want to make clear
that people understand when he was talking about Caleb Williams,
because that New York accent comes into play, which I love.
But when he said that Caleb Williams has been sacked
last year, was sacked sixty eight times, it sounded like
he had sex sixty eight times. And I don't know
the personal life of Caleb Williams in any way, shape orformance,

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none of my business, but he was saying that he
had been sacked sixty eight times.

Speaker 1 (01:59:39):
Boyd Jacob, you know that there is an avenue to
where the Colts could beat the Broncos. You can think
about it. They were on the road in Denver last
year and if Jonathan Taylor doesn't drop the ball at
the goal line. Totally changes everything, right, Yeah, it totally did,
because it was that was the beginning of the downhill spiral.
That was the I mean, by the way, I thought
you were trying to make a pun there at the
end of that conver when you said there were tua

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them games that the Colts had to win to start these.

Speaker 2 (02:00:04):
Nice nice What I would be saying is this, the
Colts open against Miami and Denver, right for their playoff chances,
they'd like to win two or else it actually kind
of nicks the opportunity to get.

Speaker 1 (02:00:20):
Into the wild card. Shit I did there. You're here
all week. I am here all week?

Speaker 4 (02:00:28):
Right?

Speaker 2 (02:00:28):
That wasn't bad though? Was it not terrible?

Speaker 6 (02:00:31):
Okay?

Speaker 1 (02:00:31):
Thank you, You're welcome.

Speaker 2 (02:00:33):
Big news that we told you yesterday. If you listen
to this show, you were on top of it at
the water cooler this morning. You were informed, came out
earlier educated. Correct, you were educated yesterday and it came
true today. I will tell you what that is next.
Listen when this when this song came out, it was

(02:00:55):
one of those that it was like eggnog, like you
like it first and then as soon as you had
too much of it, You're like, okay, that that escalated quickly.

Speaker 1 (02:01:06):
Need to apologize to Mo from Ohio because I remember
him a few weeks ago. Jake, we kept playing the
Proclaimers every Friday for some reason, just randomly. He said,
Oh great, I just got that out in my head.
And then you brought up the Macarena. So I just
did both. I may have really irked me from Ohio
off a little bit, so I played both songs today.

Speaker 2 (02:01:28):
You know the other one that gets stuck in your
head is that get knocked down and back up again?
I'm unfamiliar. Oh come on, you have to know that song.
There's no way you don't know that song. You know
what I'm talking.

Speaker 1 (02:01:42):
About, right, there's too many of those songs. Jake to
it some band called like Chumbawamba. Oh yes, I get
knocked down it up again? And then at the end, strangely, oh,
what's the song that At the very end, it has
the subtlety of what song is this? You ready?

Speaker 4 (02:02:03):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (02:02:03):
Dun dun d d d d du du dun? Is that?
What's that too? What was that?

Speaker 4 (02:02:10):
What's that?

Speaker 1 (02:02:11):
Somebody helped me out here, dude, dude, do do do
do do do Do Do Do Do Do Do do
do do do?

Speaker 2 (02:02:21):
Is that a It's like a wedding song, right that
that plays. At the end of that, I get knocked
down and back up again. It's very subtle at the
end of it. The announcement came today what we told
you yesterday, and I get it. I totally understand. I mean,
we are on the cusp of the NFL season. We
talked earlier today Charles Davis joined us. Who's going to

(02:02:41):
be on the call CBS Colts and Dolphins coming up
on Sunday. We talked to Mike Nysialik earlier about Indiana
football and got Eddie signed up as one of the
Hoosher Bison Buddies, which is fun Let's go. And we
also talked just then with Matt Verderram from Sports Illustrated
about the Colt's upcoming season in the NFL in general.

(02:03:04):
So we we've talked funny and we have the Dolphins
there as well. Now do we we need to do
a sound effect for each and every week of the season.
Do we have a Bronco sound effect?

Speaker 1 (02:03:16):
Uh, I'll just be a horse. We did not.

Speaker 2 (02:03:19):
Yeah, but I mean a bucking horse of some sort,
I would assume, right Bell's cannon. Thank you for Paul Hurley,
better known as Paul the Mailman. Oh, we love a photographers.

Speaker 1 (02:03:33):
We've got like four of them.

Speaker 2 (02:03:34):
We do giddy Paul Paul the Mailman, Pauline hiographer, what's
that Paulie PAULI yeah, we got Paulie. Paulie who's still
looking to move and brought upol But we talked plenty
NFL today and I realized that, and you know that
that Indy car is a more niche sport, but when
you're talking about drivers like Will Power, who is a

(02:03:54):
an Indy five hundred champion, a season champion, and I
mentioned his story yesterday. I went into pretty big detail
about just his story and how I think he's a
guy that a lot of people can root for. And
I told you yesterday that Power was out at Verizon
and that he was going to end up driving the

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ride that Colton Hurda was going to vacate because Colton
Hurda is going to go test the waters in Formula one.
And to recap what I mentioned yesterday, to drive in
Formula one, you have to get what's called a super
license and the super license comes by way of being

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involved in different series feeding into Formula one. IndyCar is
not one of them. So for Colton Hurda to drive
in Formula One and drive for the Cadillac Formula One
team which is affiliated within Dreddi Global, which is the
team he drives for an IndyCar, and the Cadillac Formula
one team which is going to be based right here
in central Indiana on the northeast side of town, which

(02:04:58):
is pretty cool to have an F one team based
right here in Indiana. The Colton Hurda is going to
go and be a test driver for that Cadillac F
one team and that will open the door for him
to eventually get that super licensing and get in to
drive in Formula one.

Speaker 1 (02:05:13):
I think, Jake, anytime you reference to Colton hurd situation,
he goes he needs a super license.

Speaker 2 (02:05:19):
Yeah, so super license allows him to run everywhere, including
in Monaco and then watch you Lissa's Bentley la Ford
play for the Colts on the practice squad but similar right,
a test driver practice squad and not necessarily practice squad
but kinda. But so Colton heard up doing that that
vacates his position with the team for car number twenty six,

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that is Domino number two. Will Power is officially now
slotted to take over that car for next year. Now
that means that will Powers old car car number twelve
is still available. He is now going over to take
over Colton Hurda's ride. The immediate reaction would be okay,

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So that means Andretti Global next year is going to
have will Power, Kyle Kirkwood and Marcus Erickson. There's a
little bit of a curve ball with that because Marcus
Erickson's job, even though he has a year left on
his contract, there is some speculation that he could be
out and that they could find someone to drive that
car that Marcus Erickson currently has. And the thought on

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that is Dennis Hauger, who's a native of Norway, who
is the Indie Next Champion and who won the Indie
Next Championship ball driving for Andretti Global, and that championship
does come with what's called scholarship money, money to help
one get a ride in the NDT IndyCar Series. And
with Dennis Hauger, there has been some conversation that he

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could end up in Marcus Erickson's seat for next season.
I don't believe that to be the case. He may
eventually end up there, but I don't think it's going
to be next year. I think Dennis Hauger is instead
going to be driving for dale Coin Racing. Thus another domino.
David Malucas is going to leave AJ Foyight Racing and

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car number four and go drive for Roger Penske and
Will Power's old job in car number twelve. That then
leaves that AJ Foyt Racing Car number four seat open.
This is where things get interesting. Larry Foyt is essentially

(02:07:37):
the team principal, if you will, for AJ Foight Racing
and Larry Foyight and I like that team. They already
have Santana Ferrucci confirmed for next year, and Larry Foyd
is a really good guy, and hastead a really good
job with that team, really good job. That team has
a partnership, a technical alliance as they call it, with
Team Penske. If you're Larry Foyd, you're looking at that

(02:08:00):
open seat with Malucas leaving, and you're saying, okay, I
have a couple of options here. One is I could
take say Connor Daily if he's bringing money from AMPM
with him that's the sponsor. Another is I could put
Dennis Hauger in that seat. And then there's option three,
with which I think is the one that's going to happen.

(02:08:21):
I was told over the weekend in Nashville, as I've
relayed from someone with knowledge of it, for certain, that
team Penske has always kind of kept one eye on
the driving skill and the pattern and the path. I
should say of Renu's VK, and VK yesterday announced that

(02:08:45):
he is declining an option to stay with dale Coin Racing.
It's not to say he can't go back there, but
for right now, they offered him a contract extension and
he declined it. I think that Rena's VK will end
up in the number four car for aj Foyt Ray,
so long as Penske, for example, is able to help

(02:09:06):
compensate that because VK wants more money than probably Larry
Foyd at this point can afford. That's where Connor Daley
is also a possibility there, because if Connor Daley is
bringing money with him, that offsets cost for Larry Foyd's
team and aj Foyt Racing. But I think that Penske
is going to put Rena's VK in that four car

(02:09:26):
because I think they believe in his talent and would
like to continue to watch him and see, basically in
an understudy type program, to see if it's somebody that
they then could have long term. That would be an
ideal landing spot for VK, not only because it's a
good seat and a good team, but also because.

Speaker 1 (02:09:52):
I think it is.

Speaker 2 (02:09:53):
Increasingly possible, if not even probable, that Joe's new Garden
is looking to move on from Team Penske. I don't
know what it and I like Joseph Newgarten a great deal,
but and he has a fabulous talent. I don't know

(02:10:14):
if it was just everything that's gone on with Team Penske.
I don't know what it is, but there's increased conversation
that Newgarden may want out from that team and try
to land, for example, at Arra McLaren in another year.
If that's the case and that two set opens up,
that's one of the most coveted positions in motorsport, and
VK could put himself in position there to then be

(02:10:36):
part of a team that would have Scott MacLachlan, David
Lucas and Renas VK say in another year from now.
There's a lot to unpack in that aspect and area
of that in terms of will Power. In one of
the episodes of one hundred Days to Indy, there was

(02:10:57):
from this past May and off topic conversation where Liz Power,
will Power's wife had made reference to the fact that
perhaps will would be better served being with a new
team next year, which we now know is going to
happen within Dready Global. But I think VK is going
to end up in that four seat. I think that's

(02:11:17):
going to be the next domino to fall, and I
think that's going to happen in a couple of days
once you hear Milucas confirmed for certain for that twelve right,
So that is that there's a lot there, But that's
where things stand. Hey, Jake, is Tim Sindric permanently out
of a job an IndyCar?

Speaker 1 (02:11:38):
Oh, that's a good question.

Speaker 2 (02:11:40):
I think Cindric could certainly, Tim Sendrick could be welcomed
back by a number of teams. But it is my
understanding and talking to people this weekend that for now, yes,
Cindric is essentially retired. His son is still a driver
for Team Penske on the NASCAR side of things, that's
a good question. I would think it has to be
a little bit right Tim Seddrick who was the team

(02:12:03):
president for Penske and was let go this year after
the month of May, along with Ron Rosenowski who retired,
and then Kyle Moyer who is now with Aera McLaren.
But that's where things stand right now. Malucas will be
the next Domino now to fall and that's going to
be when it's announced that he's going to will Powers car,
and then I would anticipate Renis bk ending up in
that four seat for aj Foyt, but Connor Daily don't

(02:12:25):
rule him out. As for dale Coin, in the end,
I think they're going to be a two car team,
and I think it's going to be that aforementioned Dennis
Hauger who's going to be there, and I think he's
going to be partnered with romandros On. And then as
for Hunks Hauling A Racing, which currently has Connor Daley
and Stingray Rob, I think they may merge with Premo
Racing Robert Schwartzman in one seat and then probably sting

(02:12:46):
Ray Rob or maybe Connor in the other. That's probably
a lot more than people were anticipating. But that's where
things stand. But it's fun to talk about, right, And yes,
LJ is correct. Tim Sendrick was about set to retire anyway,
and certainly he has enough money too, for certain through
his own you know, through he and his wife and
everything else. So I certainly would understand that.

Speaker 1 (02:13:08):
This is will Power and I'm in the company. Yes,
how about that.

Speaker 2 (02:13:13):
He's at the company with Indrretti Global now too, right,
still efforting, as the kids say, But it looks like
will Power is a possibility for tomorrow to join the program.
But I'm assuming right now I talked via text with
will Power yesterday that was contingent. That was the contingency plan.

(02:13:35):
But I would imagine right now he's probably getting slammed
with his phone because that announcement came not long ago. Well,
come back, It is the crossover with JV, brought to
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We'll find out what John's got scheduled for the big
day as well.

Speaker 3 (02:13:52):
There.

Speaker 2 (02:13:52):
It is, indeed, another one that gets stuck in your
head and then there's no getting out of it. Right
us open is still ongoing. I mentioned earlier. I just
think that would be such a cool sports weekend because
you know, if you've ever been to New York City,
it's really before you get to Queens. I mean, you
don't even realize you're in Queens, just outside of Manhattan.

(02:14:14):
But there's Arthur ash Stadium and Billy Jean King Stadium
and all that, and then Flushing Meadows, which is where
the Mets play, is right there. Obviously you are in
New York, You're a train ride away from everything. I
just think it'd be such a cool sports weekend to
go spend a couple of days in New York City.
Manhattan's awesome, and then just go and between the tennis

(02:14:35):
and baseball and be a sports fan's dream in my opinion.
Thanks to Charles Davis for joining us earlier today. Also
Matt Verderram, as we had mentioned to Mike Knights, like
all of that available in podcast form on the station website,
But of course wait until after six before you do that,
because J ANDV is going to be with you for
the next couple of hours. He just walked in. This

(02:14:57):
crossover Chad, of course, brought to you by the good
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one is the telephone number, John, what's on the big
show today?

Speaker 8 (02:15:10):
We're going to do Aiden Fisher, you linebacker, a little
Colts conversation, some bulls eye passes to give away. Got
to get ready for the weekend, don't we. Yeah, football,
You're going to the Rose Bowl for Oasis.

Speaker 1 (02:15:24):
I am, I am. That's nice Saturday night.

Speaker 2 (02:15:27):
I'll be back Sunday for probably the second half of
the game.

Speaker 8 (02:15:30):
So what time do you get back Sunday morning, Sunday afternoon?

Speaker 2 (02:15:34):
Well, the problem is the time difference, right, And I
tried to do the Red Eye, but I get back.

Speaker 1 (02:15:39):
I think it's at two thirty man afternoon.

Speaker 2 (02:15:42):
So that's a lot should be able to Yeah, but
you know, I'll try to sleep on the plane, I
guess right, But it's an express trip for certain But
you know, I think this game, John, we were talking
about it earlier. When you look at the first two
games for the Colts between Miami and Denver, it's two
teams that I think you kind of anticipate over the

(02:16:02):
course of the year. You're kind of in that same
category grouping with so it's really an important opening stretch here.

Speaker 8 (02:16:08):
I think the opener is the most important opener that
we have seen around here in years.

Speaker 1 (02:16:14):
Yeah, for really all involved.

Speaker 8 (02:16:17):
Think about it in these terms, Jake, if you're to
go out there and to split, okay, you split. If
you were to go out there and go to and zero,
then the excitement is incredible. If you start zero and
two at home with this group, then it's not even
so much about people being pissed about the results. People

(02:16:37):
are going to go Yeah, I'm not going and we're
not even in middle September. So this is incredibly important
coming up on Sunday, maybe the most important opener we
have seen around here.

Speaker 1 (02:16:48):
I'm not trying to what do they call it?

Speaker 8 (02:16:51):
Gas light everybody, whatever nerd term that is, and then
that's how gas everybody.

Speaker 2 (02:16:57):
But I think it's true. I've never understood what gas
light gas lighting?

Speaker 1 (02:17:01):
What did that term derive?

Speaker 2 (02:17:04):
I've never understood it. Gas lighting is straw man, I've
never understood either.

Speaker 8 (02:17:09):
There used to be the gas light in down the
south side of town in Bloomington.

Speaker 1 (02:17:14):
That's where the Hillbillies hung out. Really the gas light?
What about the video? Still, did you ever go to
the video.

Speaker 8 (02:17:19):
Yeah, yeah, do you know the story of guy He
was actually in the a wreck with me, almost killed
him back when we were sophomores in high school, my
point guard at Eastern Green I almost killed him in
a wreck and he not literally killed him, well yeah,
I guess literally killed but he was in a wreck
with me, right and shotgun. But years later he comes
out of the vid and is drunk and stumbles down

(02:17:41):
the stairs and falls on the i think the seventh
street side there, the seventh and Walnut, embraces himself on
that guard rail that sits right there. It may not
sit there anymore, but it used to, and slice part
of his finger off.

Speaker 2 (02:17:58):
Now I'm I'm pretty certain I'm correcting this, And this
is one of those that it's like, without knowing all
the facts, it's it's almost absurd to bring up, but
I'm going to anyway. Yeah, in my college years, the
vid became the video sold in Bloomington, became kind of
the trendy place because it was the.

Speaker 1 (02:18:16):
Non trendy place. It was correct.

Speaker 2 (02:18:19):
It was the classic small town dive bar and so,
you know, kids, college kids liked to go there.

Speaker 1 (02:18:24):
You know, Intermix Barrel was very similar, very similar.

Speaker 2 (02:18:28):
Yeah, but the the main bouncer at the VID in
Bloomington was actually a musician that had been in an
eighties like one hit wonder rock band that had an
MTV video And now I can't remember.

Speaker 8 (02:18:43):
I did not know that. Yes, and I'll have that's awesome.
I'd like to hear more of that story.

Speaker 2 (02:18:47):
A buddy of mine, a buddy of mine like traced
it down and was like, oh my, see.

Speaker 8 (02:18:51):
The Vapors turning Japanese, you know with Tommy two tone
eight six seven, five three oh nine. Hey, how Tarzan
Boy Baltimora was in Baltimore.

Speaker 1 (02:19:04):
They're Italian.

Speaker 2 (02:19:05):
Oh, I got to think this is going to drive
me boss. So here's what we'll do.

Speaker 8 (02:19:12):
Tony Basil work the door back in the day had
to be in a cheerleader outfit, right. I love all
the songs from the eighties that are about spanking it.
Those are my favorites. Tony Japanese is one of my
all time favorites. By the Vapors. By the way, the
Vapors still tour today, I believe, really, Yes, in some
form or fashion. I don't know if it's the original

(02:19:33):
group or one guy and maybe the Roadies, the original.

Speaker 2 (02:19:37):
Very politically incorrect song in multiple thing it is, but
we love it, don't we? I think it's okay, right?
Is it not okay?

Speaker 1 (02:19:45):
It is?

Speaker 2 (02:19:46):
It's just a connotation of when you really think about
what they're talking about.

Speaker 8 (02:19:49):
My daughter loves the Beatles and has that very same
shirt you're rocking right there.

Speaker 2 (02:19:53):
You know why I'm working because I got it for
the State Fair. This shirt commemorates the Beatles. The fair
Grounds September third, nineteen sixty four, sixty one years ago today,
sixty one.

Speaker 8 (02:20:04):
Is famous thing that ever happened in State Pharaoh?

Speaker 3 (02:20:07):
Was it?

Speaker 1 (02:20:07):
Robert Kennedy? Well at the fair itself? Well, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (02:20:12):
Robert Kennedy junior, Johnny Well, John Kennedy spoke there was it?

Speaker 8 (02:20:17):
I thought Robert Kennedy did a speech there too, did he?

Speaker 3 (02:20:19):
Not?

Speaker 4 (02:20:20):
He?

Speaker 2 (02:20:21):
No, Robert Kennedy's Robert Kennedy's famous speech was at nineteen
to the Bromos when doctor King was assassed.

Speaker 8 (02:20:27):
I can't remember my my grandfather is like in the
picture with.

Speaker 1 (02:20:31):
Really one of the Kennedy speach Bobby.

Speaker 2 (02:20:33):
Bobby Kennedy was scheduled to speak in Indianapolis on April
fourth of sixty eight, and the speech on that day
was the day that doctor King was assassinated. So they
came to Bobby Kennedy and said, you better not speak
tonight because doctor King was assassinated. There's going to be unrest.
And so he went and stood on the back of
a pickup truck at nineteenth the Broadway which is now

(02:20:53):
obviously the memorialized with the park to speak to and
gave the famous speech. John Kennedy spoke at the coliseum.
And I hate to say this, John, but the the
ice capage explosion or obviously the State Fair the stage collapse,
I mean would be the two would be up there, right,
because they're tragic moments. In terms of celebratory moments, yes,

(02:21:15):
I think the Beatles playing there would have to be it, right, Yeah,
have to be the biggest moment.

Speaker 1 (02:21:19):
Forty years ago today?

Speaker 8 (02:21:20):
What happened? What was created? Forty years ago today? This
would be on this date in nineteen eighty five, What
was create? What famous toy? Eh ber toy was created?

Speaker 2 (02:21:31):
Okay, so I was let me ask you a toy
more commonly used for boys or girls, or it was either.
My first guests would have been cabbage Patch Kids, because
that would have been that era, that would have been not.

Speaker 8 (02:21:43):
Cabbage Patch and is not mon Chi Chi manch Ici
ohso soft and cuddly. Oh yeah, I remember we used
to call Mike Ross a friend of ours mon Chi Chi.
I will go with Nintendo, go with Teddy Ruxbin. Really
Teddy Roux's been on this date? Who had Teddy Ruxman,
Teddy Ruxman would talk to you?

Speaker 2 (02:22:04):
Oh yeah, Teddy Rouxsman. Well, Teddy Ruxman is still used.

Speaker 8 (02:22:07):
I bet Eddie Garrison's got Teddy Rxman at his house
right now.

Speaker 2 (02:22:11):
Teddy Ruxman was a little creepy, but not as creepy
as Chucky. Close though, Teddy Ruxman this date. I'm texting
my buddy right now. What was the connection between the
video saloon and some random music video? And as soon
as he lets me know, I will text you the end.
I love that I do, I'll let you know. Look
at Eddie Garrison's man. He's sleep deprived, he's salty. He
is up next by the way, he will be with

(02:22:32):
you until six o'clock today, talking about as you mentioned,
the Colts and what else.

Speaker 8 (02:22:37):
John Dorman, Mike is a legend at the VID dorman Mike,
I was a bar back there in the early two thousands, owner,
family friend, great people. Video does not that, says the
doorman Mike.

Speaker 2 (02:22:49):
By the way, John's gonna be with you until six
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(02:23:13):
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