Colts vs Dolphins Preview & Caitlin Clark Out For Season. Johnathan Edwards, Stephanie White, Jordan Schultz, and More Join!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
What do we say about this program, about this show
on a Friday, by the way, set for the weekend, everybody,
and that weekend means kicking things off for the NFL
at Lucas Oil Stadium on Sunday, Colton Dolphins. We educate
and entertain, Jake, we do educate and entertain. And in
addition to that, Eddie Garrison, we speak things into existence.

(00:23):
Then go we speak things into existence and speaking things
into existence, and this has been a week of speaking
things into existence. I'm not one that sits around and
wants to tout myself for the clairvoyance by which I speak,

(00:43):
because I miss some as well. I was wrong once
about something in nineteen seventy eight. For example, I missed
a keyword in the nineteen eighty four Alisonville Elementary School
Spelling Bee in the finals. Every once in a while
I get it wrong. But I speak things into existence.
And I'm going to make a proclamation today, not one,

(01:04):
but two of them about the Colts season that we
will see if it is speaking it into existence. But
in addition to that, I'm going to recap what I
spoke into existence for last night. And we have a
loaded show today. The Kaitlin Clark news is big. It
came out yesterday obviously just as we were I think

(01:26):
it was right after we were on the air. Is
that right?

Speaker 2 (01:29):
And it came out literally right as the game kicked
off last night, that's right?

Speaker 3 (01:33):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (01:33):
And then strategically timed, no good point.

Speaker 1 (01:38):
We have that to talk about. We have obviously the
Colts to get to the college football. It is a
loaded program today and we're going to cover all of it.
But let me begin by rehashing yesterday what I said
that came into existence the NFL season kicked off. It
was a beautiful day yesterday. It was lovely, it was nice.
And the season and kicks off, and it's in Philadelphia

(02:03):
and you have the Cowboys and the Eagles, And what
did I say that every game in the NFC East,
except for, of course, in Dallas, because Dallas is geographically speaking,
not necessarily in the East. But I said, every time
you turn on a game and it's being hosted by
the Washington Commanders, it's being hosted by the New York Giants,

(02:29):
it's being hosted by the Philadelphia Eagles. I believe my
direct wording was every single time that happens, it turns
into a gloomy, forty degree drizzly rain shower. And what
happens last night? But before the game even begins, and

(02:53):
sometimes when there's miter precipitation, you say it is spitting.
The NFL season begins with the gross depressing vision of
spitting indeed in Philadelphia. And then the game begins, and
then what happens. But you have the delay and the

(03:15):
weather delay, and now you've got like an hour of
Chris collins Worth, who I like, now his kid.

Speaker 2 (03:23):
I thought his kid was not doing games anymore. He's
not doing the noted game games anymore. He's just doing
the part of the pregame and the postgame coverage for
Sunday Night Football.

Speaker 1 (03:34):
Okay, So regardless, that's what happened last night. And I
thought to myself, spoken into fruition, I said that, like
weather always is a factor in the NFC East and
ruins the atmosphere every time, And I think kind of
last night it did. Now did you sit out the
entire weather delay and then wait to see the end
of the game. I did. I wonder what percent of people?

(03:56):
I mean, I guess we'll know. We'll see the TV
ratings for it. I wonder what percent of people punted
it that point and we're like, yeah, I'm good out.

Speaker 2 (04:02):
A couple friends punt I know that because we're like, yeah,
I'm not going to stay up for another hour.

Speaker 1 (04:05):
Well, you didn't know how long it was going to
be either. I mean, at one point, I know they
said like update coming top of the hour or whatever,
and I'm like, yeah, okay, you know, Seinfeld's on the bank.

Speaker 2 (04:15):
You know, I just started watching that for the first time.

Speaker 1 (04:18):
Excuse me, you just started watching Seinfeld for the first time. Yeah,
are you binge watching Seinfeld? I watched five episodes of
Wednesday Night. Here's the thing you need to know about it, though,
What episodes did you watch? Did you start like at
the beginning.

Speaker 2 (04:32):
One, two, three, four, and five? Okay, I've never watched
it before. It's very important to let you know this.
I think Seinfeld was eight seasons, maybe nine. It didn't
hit it stride until like late in the third season.
The very early episodes of Seinfeld are terrible.

Speaker 1 (04:49):
Oh yeah, nine seasons. There's no like the first episodes.
The first episodes of Seinfeld are the first probably two
seasons of Seinfeld are like the Colts were when they
first came to Indianapolis. When the first when the Colts

(05:10):
first came to Indianapolis, you had the atmosphere at the
Dome was interesting. You had a horse that was riding
around at one point left apples on the field. You
had Huddles, which was like this mascot looking, foamy, fun
loving coult thing. And you had like Johnny Cook's Kroger

(05:31):
posters that were being sailed from the upper decks because
they were getting beat thirty one to three to the
Buffalo Bills. And you had, you know, just like flat moments.
Although Ray Butler had an immaculate deflection touchdown to beat
the Pittsburgh Steelers and everybody got excited. But the first
couple of seasons here were just not good. And then
they made the trade for Dickerson and all of a

(05:52):
sudden they're on the map. And then Monday Night football
comes along, and that's kind of when something happened with
Seinfeld where I don't know if it was the auction quality,
they change the actor of Jerry's dad, I don't know
what it was, but all of a sudden it just
started hitting its stride and by the time that it
was on its way out. It was unbelievable. That is Ah,
that's what I've heard about The Office.

Speaker 2 (06:14):
I've never been able to get past the first two
three seasons of the Office.

Speaker 1 (06:17):
The Office, to me, I get frustrated with because of
the camera movement drives me nuts. Not unlike this. And
when I say this, you'll never unsee it. If you
ever watched Ozark, Ozark is not having they don't use it.
They don't film it in white balance, so there's a
blue hue overall of when you're watching it. And once
you see that, you can't unsee it, and it will

(06:39):
drive you crazy. It's a good thing. I don't watch
it then it is a good show.

Speaker 4 (06:42):
Though.

Speaker 1 (06:43):
But here's the thing that I'm going to speak in
new existence. Are you ready for this?

Speaker 2 (06:46):
I'm ready.

Speaker 1 (06:48):
This day September the fifth of twenty twenty five. It
is above and beyond, say, the birthday of Jenny Goldhammer
Culture who I grew up with. Okay, great, it's her birthday,
Happy birthday to her. It is the benchmark beyond that.
For this reason, this is the I'm gonna speak this

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into existence. September fifth of twenty twenty five is going
to be the last day in the National Football League culture,
where Tyler Warren is not going to be a household
name league wide. We are on the cusp comes so
I should actually say that it would be tomorrow will
technically be that, but come Sunday and it might be

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like Seinfeld. Tyler Warren may be like Seinfeld. Admittedly it
may take a couple of seasons. I don't think so.
I think he's going to be Brock Bowers. I think
he's going to be Jeremy Shockey. You know, Gronk. I
can't recall whether Rob Gronkowski was like right out of
the box, plug and play tight end dynamic. But Tyler

(07:53):
Warren is going to be. He is going to be
for the Colts, that kind of a player where where
every football fan in America is going to know who,
not that they probably don't already because of what he
did at Penn State, but from an NFL standpoint, we
are right now on the cusp of the city of
Indianapolis's next national name football star.

Speaker 2 (08:16):
Ground case rookie of forty two catches, five hundred and
forty six yards, ten touchdowns.

Speaker 1 (08:21):
Okay, I mean that's pretty much plug and play, right, and.

Speaker 2 (08:24):
Then his sophomore year, one hundred and or ninety catches,
three hundred and twenty seven yards, seventeen touchdowns eighteen total touchdowns.
On the year, he had a rushing score.

Speaker 1 (08:38):
I'm telling you Tyler Warren on Sunday is going to
get things jump started for his career and it's going
to be off and running. And by the way, if
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(09:01):
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Speaker 2 (09:19):
So Jake, if you were a betting man, you would
take Tyler Warren over three and a half catches for Sunday.

Speaker 1 (09:23):
Yes, Yes, because I think and Jordan Schultz, who's going
to join us coming up here in just about five
or ten minutes for the Schultz Report, did an interview
with Daniel Jones, where I want to get into this
because I do believe something very interesting came of this

(09:45):
conversation that Daniel Jones had with Jordan Schultz where he
or excuse me, with Jonathan Schultz. So Jordan Schultz, excuse me,
where he talked about because Johnathan Edward is going to
join us on the program today as well. But Daniel
Jones talked about being so impressed with the maturity and

(10:06):
the football intellect of Tyler Warren. And I think that's
important because even a veteran quarterback like a Daniel Jones,
when you are new to any situation. And I've always
given this comparison, my biggest fear is public speaking. Not
on the radio but like mceing events, I do them,

(10:32):
but getting up in front of a live audience and
seeing all those faces out there in an audience at
a dinner or a fundraiser or whatever it may be,
I get very nervous ahead of time. So what I
always do is, especially if it's a group that I'm
not overly familiar with people. What I do is I
oftentimes will find somebody beforehand, kind of shoot the ball

(10:57):
with them a little bit, and then find them in
the crowd where I can scan through, and as I'm talking,
I just I focus in like I'm talking to that
person because I kind of know them. They're a safety
net person. And I think Daniel Jones in talking about
the intellect and the football perceptions and craftiness of Tyler Warren.

(11:19):
Even though Daniel Jones has been a quarterback in the
NFL for many many starts, even though he's been around
for a while and has multiple starts in seasons under
his belt in New York, he's new to Indy, he's
new to the Colts, he's new to this franchise, and
he's still getting his comfort level. And so, yes, Tyler

(11:42):
Warren may be a rookie, but for Daniel Jones, so
too is Michael Pittman Jr. So too is Alec Pierce,
so too is Jonathan Taylor. Because this is Daniel Jones's
rookie experience with those players, they are all brand new
to him. So for him, it's clean slate in terms
of experienced level or comfort level or familiarity with everybody

(12:06):
on that offensive roster, and so therefore, when he is
talking about his how impressed he is with Tyler Warren,
I think Daniel Jones is basically saying, this is my
guy that I talked to before the event began to
get familiar with, and that's who's going to be my
safety net. And I think their ability talking about the

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Colts to get Warren in so many different areas, I
think it's going to be more than just hey, we're
going to throw a you know over here, quick snap
and bubble screen on the side of the tight end
or just a quick release five yard pass. I think
they're going to utilize him in multiple areas. And I
think that Warren's ability, or at least at this point,

(12:51):
what they believe to be his ability to also recognize
where those areas are, that he can re route where
he's supposed to go and communicate that by looking at
setups and defenses. I think that is something that they're
going to tap into big time. And I think Daniel
Jones just tiped that hand a little bit about that,
and I do think I think it's a better roster

(13:16):
than nationally the culture given credit now did you see
the question I asked last night on the expost Twitter
which one?

Speaker 2 (13:25):
I thought there were a couple different questions out there.

Speaker 1 (13:28):
I think we have a winner in this group. Okay,
you have to pick one NFL franchise. Okay, and then
we're going to put on you basically like an AirPod. Okay,
that's going to have also on a camera. Okay, kind
of like a Shazam really, and it is going to

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everywhere that you go. You walk into a coffee store
and they have sports talk radio overhead. You walk into
a restaurant and they have a game on the television.
You walk through downtown or an airport and you see
people passing you in a T shirt. You have to
pick one NFL franchise right now, Eddie Garrison in Indianapolis, Indiana.
You have to pick one NFL franchise, and for every

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day of your life that you go without seeing or
hearing any reference whatsoever in any way, shape or form
of this franchise. You can't see somebody wearing a hat,
you can't see somebody wearing a T shirt. You can't
see a backpack with the logo on it. You can't
hear it mentioned on a sports talk radio program. You
can't see it on a television screen. You can't have
your neighbors say that he was getting ready to go
watch their game. Nothing for every day that you go

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without any reference whatsoever of this franchise, you, Eddie Garrison,
get one thousand dollars. Okay, what franchise do you pick
that ultimately nets you the most money before the game
comes to an end? The Carolina Panthers. Okay. I think
that that was the second highest answer. The problem being

(14:55):
in this market. I don't disagree with you from a
national standpoint, but in this MA number one. You know,
obviously we have a sister station in Charlotte, and so
we hear a little bit about the Panthers that way.
But also because of the fact that Bryce Young is
a quarterback that was in the mix when Anthony Richardson
was selected, there are still some eyes on that. I

(15:17):
don't disagree, But there is a different franchise that was
the winner in my survey, And there was another franchise
that was mentioned where I thought people are pretty smart cookies.
But joining us now on the always busy and available
for your company to sponsor guest line, he of course
is synonymous with NFL coverage, and in addition to that,
his Report, which is a video cast that is done,

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has become one that is a must watch when it
comes to getting the inside track of the NFL. NFL
insider Jordan Schultz of the Schultz Report joining us now
after he had come to Indianapolis, done a sit down
with Daniel Jones, and I'm gonna get right to this, Jordan,
and that is I thought you asked a really good
question to Daniel Jones, which is did he get a

(16:00):
fair shake in New York? Now in Indianapolis, we're more
concerned about, obviously the shake he's going to get with
the Colts now that Stichen has selected him the starter.
Is this a franchise and a roster around Daniel Jones
that allows him to just kind of game manage and
feel his way into it because they have balance offensively,

(16:20):
You know what.

Speaker 5 (16:20):
Jack, I spent a lot of time with Daniel over
the years in New York, and this was the most
relaxed I felt and confident that he's been. And I
think that's a testament to the organization in Shane as
well as the fact that you know, he goes from
New York, which is just a media frenzy, to Indianapolis,

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which is really his speed. You know, he's a low key,
down to earth guy, Southern kid, and to me, the
Colts are perfect for him. And I think the fact
that he's developed such a good rapport not only with Shane,
but with Downs and Pittman, and he specifically said Tyler
Warren had has been as good as advertised and highlighted
not only his physical attributes but the mental acumen that

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he has for the game, and just all of that
to me is a great sign. And you mentioned the
question I asked him about.

Speaker 4 (17:12):
In New York.

Speaker 5 (17:13):
His response I thought was pretty mature in the sense
he basically said, a lot of the owers has to
be on me. I'm the quarterback. I didn't play well enough.
And you know he things in New York. Other than
the one playoff here when they beat Minnesota on in
one playoff game, they did not go well in New York,
especially at the end. He needed a fresh start. The
coaching staff I don't believe was invested in him enough,

(17:37):
and as a result, he moves on and now he
wins a job in Indianapolis. And to answer your question,
I do believe he's going to have success.

Speaker 1 (17:43):
Here's the irony of it, Jordan, And you tell me
if you and feel free to disagree with this irony
that I thought of. Okay, it seemed to me that
Daniel Jones's New York Giants is Anthony Richardson's Indianapolis Colts,
like they're just Richardson. And I'm not saying that it's
entirely on the Colts. I think it's probably symbiotic here

(18:05):
in terms of the stall of Richardson's start of his career.
But it seems like Richardson just kind of had the
same lack of footing to begin that Jones did in
New York. And perhaps the difference is Indianapolis has been
waiting for Richardson to own that and they haven't been
satisfied with the level of maturity of which he has done.

(18:27):
So is that a fair statement?

Speaker 6 (18:30):
You know, that's a lot to take in.

Speaker 5 (18:32):
I would well, here's what I would say in terms
of New York, because I was here when Daniel got drafted.
He was you know, both those guys are top in picks.
Neither one, especially in Richardson's case, played a lot of
college football, and I think I would say the difference
is that in New York, when things went really south

(18:54):
with Brian da Ball and Joe Shane, the GM to me, Daniel,
in many words, in many ways became escape him. It
was really because of him, and I never felt like
that was fair. Richardson is still so young and I
think talented enough where I would hope that the Colts

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haven't given up on him. But I also believe that
when they brought in Daniel for fifteen million bucks that
they were in many ways hoping that the competition would
be really strong, but they knew that there was a
con contingency plan needed for Daniel to be available. So

(19:35):
that's a long way of saying I think in many
ways what you said is probably true. But given Richardson's
age and talent level, I just think it's about maturity
and learning to be a pro, and I believe he'll
get there, even if he's not there yet.

Speaker 1 (19:53):
What Daniel Jones himself, Jordan Jordan Schultz is our guest.
He has an interview with Daniel Jones. As a matter
of fact, it's part of the Schultz Report when and
you watched him a lot in New York, Okay, and
sometimes guys just do need to change the scenery, and
he has about him Daniel Jones, does I think, and
this is no knock on Anthony Richardson at all, who's
very talented and young. Jones seems to have, to your point,

(20:17):
this composure about him where maybe the riggers that he's
gone through. Now Indianapolis benefits from that because he can
kind of he just has a better idea of what
to do when the arrows are flying past him. But
when you look at this offense and Jonathan Taylor behind him,
do you believe that Indianapolis is going to utilize and

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focus with Jonathan Taylor and just have Jones be the
game manager or does Jones try to take advantage of
the weapons he has in space to then open up
Jonathan Taylor. Did you get any indication from him which
way they'll go with that?

Speaker 5 (20:54):
The indication I got was that I think they're further along.
And I think this on both sides, specially the Colts.
I believe they are further along at this point heading
into Week one than they thought they'd be. I don't
know how to quantify that as to how many throws
or how many you know, big opportunities down the field.

Speaker 6 (21:15):
They'll take.

Speaker 5 (21:15):
But the reason I say that go back to what
I was referencing Leer Jake. He's just so confident right now.
And I asked him about Shane specifically because obviously Dave
All was known in New York as an offensive guy,
but I think Shane is even more innovative, and the
ability what Shane did with Jalen Hurts in Philadelphia needs

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to be studying it.

Speaker 1 (21:40):
Jordan Schultz from the Schultz Report, and yes, Jalen Hurts
last night showed, you know, when you look at what
Steichen was able to do with Jalen Hurts and getting
him going, I mean, obviously that is the blueprint of
what they I think were hoping for with Anthony Richardson.
And maybe that is still there, you know, maybe that's
still there. But to me, Hurts is a guy that

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was so impressive in college because not just of what
he did at Alabama and then being able to do
that at Oklahoma, but rather to I go back to
with Jalen Hurts, and I think this is something that
should have moved him up a little bit in the draft,
even when he was removed in the National Title game
for the sake of Tua, and Tua throws the touchdown

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and Hurtz looked like he was the guy that had
thrown the touchdown. Pass it. He did not care one
iota in that moment, at least about what had taken
place for him or the trajectory of his time as
the starter. But rather what he was more focused on
is the fact that his team had just won the
national championship. And to me, that was so impressive and
it showed a coachability. And yes, he went from that

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situation and opted to go elsewhere, But I'm not saying
that coachability doesn't exist with Anthony Richardson. But with Richardson,
we haven't been able to see it because there was
just the limitation of reps at flour And so that's
the one thing that made it difficult, I think, to
know whether or not the Colts had a quarterback in

(23:09):
that situation that could have the same kind of response
to the coaching stych And was providing, because we just
didn't have a baseline to understand or know in that scenario.
But the other thing that Jordan touched on there, and
I think it's important to just kind of hone in
on was the relaxed and the comfortability, if that's a

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word for Daniel Jones in this environment, and in the interview,
Jones talks a lot about He's right, he talked a
lot about Indianapolis, and I thought it was cool that
he said, man, it was so much fun with the
pacers run. That just showed an awareness of environment and
having nothing to do. I want to make sure people
understand I'm not saying this in comparison to Anthony Richardson
at all, taking Richardson totally out of the equation. You

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have a new starting quarterback in Daniel Jones. So he
sits down and he does this interview and he talks
about the number of steakhouse is in Indy and the
relaxed atmosphere and the pacers running, how much fun it was,
and the guys around him. And it showed without even
coming out to say this is what I'm trying to
show to you, it showed situational awareness, an awareness of surrounding.

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And that's what you want in a quarterback. You want
a quarterback that is aware of all things taking place.
I have no idea whether or not that means Daniel
Jones is going to be a long term guy in Indy.
I have no idea. I don't know that anybody knows that.
But at the very least he is exhibiting the recognition
ability that you want out of a quarterback. And that's

(24:40):
the thing that I thought the interview illuminated. Again. It
is the Schultz Report, where the interview is with Jordan
Schultz and pretty good stuff with Daniel Jones. And yes,
I totally understand at the same time why people are
going to say, well, wait a minute, like, why does
this guy get air dropped in and get this interview
and yet he doesn't do local I get all that,

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But he has a history with Daniel Jones because of
the time in New York, as he talked about. And
it is a good interview, and I think it shows
in forecasts why there could be some When I say
optimism for the Colts, I don't mean that I think
that they are going to be this year's Washington Commanders.
I don't mean that this is going to be Andrew

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Luck's rookie year where all of a sudden, you're like
everything goes their way and everything bounces their way and
a bout a boom. Now all of a sudden you're
in the second round of the playoffs and winning a
playoff game. I don't mean that, but foundationally, is there
something there that you can build upon, whether it be
with Jones or Richardson next year or whatever else. I
think this roster, barring injury, does have that, and I

(25:46):
think they're going to win. And this is what I
mean when I say I speak it into existence. When
I speak this into existence for the Colts, you're going
to be happy with it. And I will tell you
which two franchises just before we began I was thinking
of when I said, there's one that's the clear cut
winner of the game, and there's one that others mentioned,

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and I thought, you know what, there's a reason why.
That's a great answer. And I'll tell you all three
of those things next. Okay, here it is right here
for the Colts that I'm going to speak into existence.
And I am probably more bullish on them than most.

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But when I look at this Colts season, and in
particular this team, and by the way, thank you to
Jordan Schultz. Somebody said it sounds like I said, George Schultz,
Jordan Schultz, When when I look at this Colts team
and I see, and the secondary I think is going
to be interesting because and they're going to get tested

(26:53):
a little bit here with Tua. I mean, you know,
he's when he's in rhythm, he can be a good quarterback.
I think they have talent at the corner position, but
it is not talent that is used to playing with
one another. Instead of going out and getting young guys
that are going to going to grow together, they obviously
went out and got guys that have experienced in the

(27:13):
league and are good players. But at the same time,
and it's it's not that unit is not as reliant on,
you know, like as an offensive line is of the
cohesiveness of your teammates. But nonetheless, I just think you
know the system, new decordinator. I think there's going to

(27:34):
be kind of a feel in period on that. But
I think that defensively they're pretty good. I think they've
got good They should be able to get to the quarterback.
This is again barring injury in major areas. Their depth
you can talk about another time if in fact there
are injuries, but I think their roster's pretty good. The

(27:56):
quarterback is this is if you were to build yourself
a car. I think the Colts. You know, they've got
a nice sun roof. The upholstery is really nice and clean.
They even got leather as a matter of fact, nice
stereo system to it. I don't know that this is

(28:20):
a car that has like the third row seating, but
it's the interior is really nice and it has all
the bases covered. The big question is whether or not
you have the right engine, and that's for the Colts
this year. The quarterback is the big question mark. And
does Anthony Richardson have bigger wow moment potential in ceiling Probably,

(28:42):
but I think Daniel Jones gives you a clearer baseline
of who you are. I think the Colts this year
win ten games. I think they go ten and seven
and I think they get the first of those wins
this Sunday now against Denver. Maybe not, but I think
they start out one to oh. I think the Street
comes to an end of opening week without a win.

(29:04):
They have a tie in there and I think that
they I think they end up winning. I think they win,
you know, in just a non sexy fashion on Sunday,
but a win's a win, and I think they get
ten wins on the air. Now, the question that I
asked Eddie, and I'm going to restate the rules here

(29:27):
one more time for those that are just joining the program.
Where have they been? You get to pick one NFL franchise.
You pick one NFL franchise, and you are going to
be They're going to put on you some sort of
a shizam device that also has a camera on it.

(29:49):
And when you pick this franchise, it is going to register.
If you go an entire day without seeing any reference
in the American culture at all of the franchise you chose,
you cannot see somebody wearing a T shirt of it,
a hat of it, a backpack of it. You can't
hear somebody mentioning it on the radio overhead. You can't
hear somebody mentioning it in the mentioning this franchise in

(30:12):
line at Kroger. You can't hear somebody say that it's
their kid's favorite team. Nothing. The second, for every single
day that you go without any recognition or acknowledgment in
any way, shape or form, even at no fault of
yours or no seek of yours, for every day that happens,
you get a thousand bucks. What team do you pick

(30:32):
that gets you the most money, the Carolina Panthers, and
you got that's a very good answer, and I think
probably one of the three or four best answers when
I did this on the expost Twitter, the team that
got the most response without question, and it's not close,
and there were hundreds of replies.

Speaker 2 (30:51):
I know what team this is, and I'll explain why
they weren't my team of choosing. Go ahead, the Arizona Cardinals.

Speaker 1 (30:55):
That is the team. Now, I think there is a
clear cut winner even that's Arizona or Carolina, and I'll explain,
but go ahead, you tell me why you did not
go with Arizona.

Speaker 2 (31:04):
I didn't go with Arizona because of Marvin Harrison Junior
never won in Kyler Murray fair number two. They play
week four on primetime. They're on Thursday night football against Seattle. Okay,
so they would get that primetime mention and they would
get the recognition to talk about in the promotion of it,
whereas Carolina is not until week twelve. So I've got

(31:24):
eleven weeks of raking in that cabbage.

Speaker 1 (31:26):
Okay. Now, the team that everybody said Arizona, And it's
kind of like when something is labeled as and is
the automatic assumption answer for most obscure. It then becomes
the least obscure because everybody knows it as the most
the answer for most obscure. So Arizona in this case,

(31:50):
everyone's like Arizona, Arizona, Arizona, which shows that in some way,
shape or form, Arizona was on their mind. The team
that somebody said, and I thought to myself, BINGO, there
it is, because I didn't even think of that as
a potential answer, because they're that out of sight, out
of mind, and you know, I have no idea when

(32:12):
we're going to hear about this franchise again, do you
have a guest Eddie Tennessee. No, because they're in the
Colts Division. I didn't know if you were going if
you were not in an AFC. Here's the thing. The
Colts are in the division, and that's part of the
purpose of the game here to show and illustrate that
the Colts Division. Everybody outside of the AFC South would

(32:38):
probably say Jacksonville, Indianapolis, Tennessee, or even Houston.

Speaker 2 (32:42):
I would push back on Jacksonville just because of Travis Hunter.

Speaker 1 (32:45):
Okay, that's fair.

Speaker 2 (32:46):
I can't go with New Orleans because they're going to
have the first pick, so everyone's going to be talking
about them. But that's who it is. That's the reason
why I didn't go with them.

Speaker 1 (32:56):
But you don't hear anything about New Orleans. You don't
hear anything about New Orleans. I mean, I I like,
we were talking about them yesterday when you mentioned that
Spencer Ratler is their starter, yep, because we were basically asking, like,
who is the most obscure starter in the NFL at quarterback?
And Spencer Ratler in the New Orleans States, I mean,
other than in this market when people bring up the

(33:19):
Hank basket on side kick. Outside of that, this might
be the only market left in America that still even
remembers that the Saints were once good. I mean, and
I like the Saints. You know, they had cool helmets
in the Florida Lee, and you know Tom Dempsey run
around after a seven yard field goal. That's all cool.

(33:39):
And the superdomes cool, and I mean I get all that,
and they've been a great fan base and et cetera.
But the last couple of years, I mean, can you
name me for Saints not including Valentine and Nick? Yes?

Speaker 2 (33:57):
Go ahead, Alan Kamara, Ok, that's good. Jawan Johnson, their
tight end, Chris o'lave in, Rashid Shaheed, Chris olave that's good.

Speaker 1 (34:05):
Yeah. Shaheed, by the way, on the Aquarium Company Fantasy
Football League, I have him. Yeah. Fantasy football does help
in knowing some of the more big time secure team players, right,
big time. Yeah. Other than that, Other than that, that's
the that's the beauty of fantasy football. Kept Thursday at
Football in business because when Thursday at Football first became
a thing and it was on the NFL network and

(34:27):
it literally was the participation trophy of the NFL network scheduling,
you know, they're like, we got to listen. We put
a dealing with the owners that everybody gets at least
one nationally televised game. So what are we going to
do with this matchup between Cleveland and New Orleans?

Speaker 2 (34:41):
Here you go, Jacksonville. That's what's your primetime game against Tennessee.

Speaker 1 (34:44):
That's exactly correct. And so you're those games, You're like, really,
do I really care about this game? Do I want
to watch it?

Speaker 7 (34:50):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (34:50):
Wait a minute, wait a minute, I've got the tight
end on my fantasy team. You like the good, don't you.
That's actually the it was big news yesterday in Indianapolis
sports that made you good, and there might be more
to it than you think. I'll explain who and what
I'm talking about and do it on the other side.

(35:13):
And Jonathan Edwards, undrafted free agent Indianapolis Cult by way
of Tara Hate joins us coming up eighteen minutes from now.
Every time I hear Eddie Money, I think of a
tribute to the late great Jersey Johnny, who would be
thrilled to know that his cults are getting underway on
Sunday at Lucas Oil Stadium and Jurs. Of course, I

(35:36):
think most of you know of Jersey Johnny from his
time on this radio station. Jers was even though obviously
from New Jersey, was passionate, who's your through and through
and would have been thrilled with the season, the beginning
of the year, and the trajectory and the expectation and
excitement for the Indiana Fever. But that obviously now, I'm
not going to say that that's changed. As a matter

(35:58):
of fact, Stephanie White going to join us come up
just about thirty minutes from now, Jake.

Speaker 2 (36:02):
In honor of Jersey Johnny, shall we continue his segment
that he used to always do aarrow up, arrow down.

Speaker 1 (36:08):
Sure we can even call it the Jersey Johnny arrow
up arrow down, right, Yeah, there you go, even though
the arrow up for him for sure, by the way,
because there was nobody more kind hearted in this town
than Jersey Positive So Caitlin Clark. Yesterday the announcement coming

(36:28):
out that Caitlin Clark will in fact miss the rest
of the season, and I know that I believe her
when when she says, you know, hey, what a disappointment.
It was. The one thing, Eddie is that it does
feel like we just reached a point where mathematically there

(36:50):
was no other option there. And because of the fact that,
like Stephanie White had said that she wanted to see
you know, five full speed full practices before Caitlin Clark
on the floor, and you know, those things are tough
because they just they didn't have so many opportunities because
of the scheduling and everything else. And you just kind
of got the impression that even if Caitlin Clark had

(37:12):
gotten to the point from a health standpoint where the
groin and the bone bruise in her lower I think
it's ankle were healthy, that the conditioning wasn't going to
be where they wanted it to be. And the thing
about all of that, I know this isn't a factor.

(37:33):
I know it's not. I one percent know it, but
I can't deny that I thought it. And that is
the Fever right now. And you correct me if I'm wrong, Eddie,
But I believe the Fever have a game and a
half advantage on the final playoff spot correct.

Speaker 2 (37:55):
Yeah, they Yeah, they're eighth right now in Los Angeles loss,
so they got some help there.

Speaker 1 (38:00):
Yeah, so I think it's a game and a half cushion, right, Yeah,
let me look correct me if I'm wrong on that.
But when you look at their schedule and three games remaining, yeah,
game and a half Chicago tonight, then at Washington and
then Minnesota. So three games remaining, game and a half cushion,

(38:21):
And yes, I mean it looks like they are going
to make. I think they're going to make the playoffs.
And they owe it to the roster of players that
are there to give them every chance they have and
every opportunity and every advantage they can get to win
that roster. Yeah, sure you don't have Caitlin Clark. Sure
you don't have Chloe Bibby. Sure you don't have Sidney Colson.
Sure you don't have Sophie Cunningham, Sure you don't have

(38:42):
Ery McDonald. I get all that, But you still have
Kelsey Mitchell, You still have Toash Howard, you still have
a Leah Boston. You still have players that have done
everything they can to try to win for you, and
so you owe it to those players to say we
are still all in on winning. And so that would
lead you to believe that if there was even a
percentage of a chance that Caitlyn Clark could play, that

(39:03):
she was going to play because you want to win.
Having said that, there is an element of human nature.
And I know, I mean in my heart fundamentally, I
know this was not the reason for it. But if
you look at what they would be able to do

(39:23):
in the postseason if Caitlyn Clark comes back and hasn't
played in however, you know, however long it's been, and
you say, okay, so we're gonna bring her back when
she's not one hundred percent Do you think about what
happened across the street? And I say across the street,

(39:44):
it's the same ownership franchise and the fever by the way,
and I want to talk to Stephanie about this as well. Uh,
they're complex, which is going to be state of the art,
you know, is is really starting to take form and
take hold. Yesterday, what's that yesterday? Right across the street
and where the old jail was, And I do hope
there's a plaque from where I spent the night in

(40:04):
that facility. But does she know about that story? You
know what? She might be able to help me get
the plaque, but erected. We'll have to I'll ask her.
But you wonder if they didn't think about the situation
with Tyrese Haliburton and just say you know what, and look,
I get it. I mean, everybody and their brother knows

(40:24):
Tyrese Haliburton had to play in that game six and seven.
You are that close to a title, you've got to
go all in. I totally get it. In no way,
shape or form, am I blaming anybody for Haliburton being
out there, even though we knew the risk, even though
you knew the potential and the possibility of that injury
going from CAF to Achilles. Everyone knew it. But you
had to do it. You had to push in but

(40:45):
does that in any way, shape or form cause you
to say, let's not risk furthering anything when we have
a firm idea of where we are.

Speaker 2 (40:54):
And funny you mentioned that, Jake because Tyree said that
the doctor who ended up doing his surgery was shocked
that he towards Achilles. He didn't see any association with
the cap strain that he had to leading to a
torn Achilles.

Speaker 1 (41:07):
Yeah. I get that, and I know that people can
say that they're not, but I mean they have to
be related to one another, right, I mean, otherwise it
is he is literally bad luck Brian. Right, maybe if
you go from that strain CAF to the Achilles deal.

Speaker 2 (41:25):
I'm more interested in knowing, Jake, which is it? Which
injury is it that's holding her back? For Kaitlin Clark,
is it the is it the strained right groin? And
if it's a strained goin, did she tear it? And
that's what this actually is. It's not just a strain
or is it the bone bruis at her ankle that
she suffered that has you know, ultimately ended her season.

Speaker 1 (41:44):
I believe, and not to be that guy, but I
believe that a tear can still be a strain. It is.
I mean, a strain is a small tear, right, It's
a matter of the how through or you know what
I mean, how how thorough a tear?

Speaker 2 (41:59):
Yeah, was it like a full tear basically when I
was ending out there, But I don't think it was
because there was no surgery needed.

Speaker 1 (42:06):
Did you ever go to the old Marion County Lockup? No?
It was an interesting place really.

Speaker 2 (42:13):
I mean you got inside access, so you would know.

Speaker 1 (42:18):
I did underground access. And I'm telling you my biggest
regret in life. I have a life, a few regrets,
but my biggest regret in life is not getting your shot. Yes. Well,
and furthermore, when I was in nineteen ninety six or seven,
when I spent a weekend in the Marion County Hotel,
they give you like a wristband thing like you get

(42:39):
when you go to the hospital and it has your
mug shot on.

Speaker 2 (42:42):
It when you're discharged or when you get in.

Speaker 1 (42:43):
When you get in, okay, So they put this wristband
on you, okay, and it's got your mugshot on it.
And I was thinking, maybe, you know, you get free
rides at Indiana Beach or something with it, but they
so they give you this wristband. And then when they
I was I was. For those that don't know the story,
and I won't go into the full detail because it's boring,

(43:03):
but I was a guest of the county Marion County
due to a clerical error. So when they took me
in there, they said, no, we're holding you for a
different county. And it was a clerical error for the
most part, so everything was expunged, so there's no record
of any of this happening. It was like a bad

(43:23):
dream I had, but yet it really did happen. But
when they finally realized the error essentially and were releasing
me forty one hours after the fact, they said, you
walk up these stairs and I started to leave and
then they said who whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa what They said,
we need to cut the wristband off of you. And
my biggest regret is that I let them do that

(43:45):
and I didn't keep it, because I would love to
have that bad boy. I mean, I would have turned it.
I would have gotten it, played it or something, and
I mean it was awesome and if I still had
the mug shot. Unfortunately, it was a sponge and I've
had everybody try to get me the bug shot. I
mean t shirts, mouse pads, mugs, hats, you name it.
It'd probably be my billboard so oh billboard, your lock

(44:06):
screen photo, yes, all of it. It absolutely would be
my profile picture on social media. And I'm not listen.

Speaker 2 (44:16):
I mean, you got the haircut, now, that's right. You
should just come back in there in stage at all.

Speaker 1 (44:20):
And look, I am not making light of people who,
unfortunately their life is such that they have ended up.
I mean, I'm not making light of incarceration any of that.
I mean, I get it. It was not fun. It
was not fun at all, but it is I actually
have always felt this, and people have gotten on me

(44:42):
about this. I think everybody in some countries you go
into mandatory military at the age of nineteen. In this country,
everybody at the age of eighteen or nineteen, certainly men
should have to go and spend one night in a
lockup like that, because immediately you're like, yeah, I don't
want to be here. And I know that circumstances for
some people, you know, I get it, I get all that,

(45:05):
but when they I will admit, when they started to
tear it down to put up the fever calm. You know,
I thought, well, you know, that's a that's a part
of my story and that bad boy. But nonetheless, that
is an excellent question, Eddie. And when Stephanie White joins
us coming up, I will probably ask her that, hey, listen,
which and yeah, I get it, there's hipper rules and

(45:27):
everything else, But which which injury is it? Which one
is the one keeping her out? And is one more
you know, easier if you will, to come back from
than the other, And which one requires more rest? Jonathan
Edwards has a great story started in Saint Louis, kind
of like mine and ended up in the NFL, but
had to stop along the way and Tara Hate had

(45:48):
to stop along the way in Narlands. And he's going
to have a stop along the way in his career
before things get underway with us, because he's going to
join us in five Jonathan Edwards has a you know
there said Jonathan Edwards, how many let me ask you this,
how many player names can you think of that have
played for the Colt sand the Pacers.

Speaker 2 (46:09):
I was gonna say, Jonathan Edwards another one of those
guy went to high school with or professional athletes.

Speaker 1 (46:13):
Totally now what's interesting is Jonathan Edwards went to Parkway
North in Saint Louis. And in Saint Louis, where you
went to high school is a huge thing. And there
are a lot of great athletes that have come out
of Saint Louis. But oftentimes Saint Louis has a huge
parochial school influence and a lot of times when players,

(46:37):
like great players, they I'm not going to say they're recruited,
but they end up at one of the parochial schools,
whether it be CBC or De Smet or a lot
of the different you know, Catholic and or private schools,
Jesuit schools throughout the Saint Louis area. Jason Tatum, David Lee.

(47:00):
I can't remember where Larry Hughes went to high school,
but he also was he might have been CBC Christian Brothers.
I can't remember what the other C stands for, but
either way, but Parkway North is, you know, just one
of the bigger public schools in Saint Louis. I would
say it probably is like a North Central or Lawrence

(47:23):
North or whatever it may be. And that's where Jonathan
Edwards went to school. Now, what I want to know
is the journey that he took because he was not
highly recruited out of high school and not being highly

(47:43):
recruited out of high school and then getting into the
NFL as an undrafted free agent. I want to know
how much of that journey of having improved himself in
college kind of you know, factored into how he ended
up here. But there is a pacer player also named
Jonathan Edwards, I believe, am I correcting that that played
for played in the MAC like Kent State. Maybe a

(48:06):
center that played a year or two and got some
mop minutes, like in the Brawl era. So how many
players can you think of that their name, that there
is a pacer and a cult with the same name.
I don't think there's many. There's no Art Schleister that

(48:29):
played for the Pacers, right, you can bet on that.
But we had Jonathan Edwards and then I think he did.
He say he got called into a meeting at Yeah,
an emergency meeting. Emergency meeting.

Speaker 2 (48:40):
Well, it's just like something that was popped up last minute.

Speaker 1 (48:42):
Yeah, do we know what emergency it might be for
the colts secondary? No, a film session of some sort.
So Jonathan said to join us tentatively here in a
couple of minutes, and Stephanie White also going to join
us about ten or five ten minutes from now after
we chat up. Jonathan talked earlier about the interview in

(49:04):
the Schultz Report that was done with Daniel Jones and
Daniel Jones talking about it was really interesting because when
he was doing this interview Daniel Jones with Jordan Schultz,
and Jordan Schultz was asking him about New York and
his experience in New York. And what was interesting was

(49:26):
Jones kept referencing the fast paced nature of New York City,
and he kept referencing the more down to earth nature
of Indianapolis and the slower pace of Indianapolis. And when
he said, and I mentioned this earlier, but Jones does

(49:48):
this interview where he's asked about being a cult and
being in Indianapolis, and one of the things he said was,
you know, when we got here during OTA's the Pacers
run was so much fun and seeing this city rally
around that. And then he was asked about restaurants and

(50:09):
he's like, well, there are a lot of great steakhouses downtown,
but there are you know, He's like, there are a
lot of steakhouses in India, and he went on about
that and so, and I'm saying this independent of anybody
else on the roster. I'm not saying this in a
comparison to others on the roster, but the ability to

(50:32):
talk about this city and this market and what it
meant and I get it. I mean, it would be
difficult for anybody to be air dropped into Indianapolis during
the Pacers' finals run and not become aware of it.
But nonetheless, it seemed like Daniel Jones was discussing or
mentioning a familiarity and a comfort level with the lifestyle

(50:54):
in Indianapolis that was conducive for him versus New York.
And that shows a situational awareness that was impressive to me.
Jonathan Edwards is speaking of impressive. He has been exactly that,
which is why, as an undrafted free agent, he has
made the roster of the Indianapolis Colts as a cornerback
who comes by way of Tulane, but his first stop

(51:14):
at Indiana State and Parkway North High School in Saint Louis.
Joins us on the show, Jonathan, how are you.

Speaker 6 (51:20):
I'm doing well, Jake, how are you?

Speaker 1 (51:22):
I am great? Thank you now? They said you had
an emergency meeting. Everything's okay, right.

Speaker 6 (51:26):
Oh, everything is good.

Speaker 7 (51:27):
Yeah, we just had a meeting of defense system knocking
out some last minut players only meeting.

Speaker 1 (51:32):
So okay, Well, we want to make sure that everything's okay.
And I don't want to take you away from anything.
It's of utter importance. Oh, let's begin with this now.
I know I was just talking about this. I used
to work in Saint Louis, so I know a little
about Saint Louis and I know about Parkway North and
feel free to disagree with me here, But in Saint Louis,
especially athletically, there are so many rivalries and so many

(51:55):
great athletes that are at the private parochial schools, like
once the adjacent tate them or a David Lee like
gets to a certain level, they end up at CBC
or De smet And so I think sometimes like the
Parkway North's, for example, or Central's I'm not going to
say chip on the shoulder, but it doesn't get the
attention in Saint Louis like the other schools, and that

(52:16):
can kind of fuel a drive in you. Is that true?
And did you feel it?

Speaker 6 (52:22):
Absolutely?

Speaker 7 (52:23):
Like I remember growing up in high school, always being underlooked.
You know, everybody talked about CBC, this smet you know,
don't know Trinity, that's not a school anymore, but that
was a popular school during my time high school. And
I just remember like always wishing that I had a
chance to be compete with those guys more often than
we did, but definitely with a chip on our shoulder

(52:44):
from guys from public schools who we were a class
for school. So that definitely was something that drove me.

Speaker 1 (52:51):
Well, okay, And so with that, you end up you know,
other guys are going to say, you know, Missoo or
Illinois or you know, wherever it be. And nothing against
Indiana State in any way, shape or form, but you
end up in Indiana State, which obviously, you know at
that time you were not listed to say a four

(53:11):
or five star recruit. So was that And I know
Indiana State was good for you, don't get me wrong,
but but did that also did that drive in that
inferiority complex that you didn't want to settle in on you?
Did it continue to motivate you at that point?

Speaker 4 (53:27):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (53:27):
Absolutely.

Speaker 7 (53:28):
I remember me going to Indiana State and me remembering,
like God, not to knock anybody. But you remember in
high school, you see guys posting all over the place
how many offers they're getting. Like you talked about Miszoui
and Illinois, Like I never received a letter or anything
from Azoo or Illinois. So I just remember, like, man, like,
that's kind of crazy. I was an in state guy,

(53:49):
never having those opportunities or my name never being out there,
and then Indiana State taking a shot on me, and
then me being developed there and receiving great coach and
like you said, it's a smaller school, but I benefited
most as a man turin they're developing my game and
getting to where I am now. So I have to
credit Indiana State coach Mallory a lot for my progress

(54:11):
over my younger years.

Speaker 1 (54:13):
And so therefore was it difficult, I guess to know
that you know, here was a school and I get
the respect and the love and the appreciation you have
for what Indiana State offered. But once again you kind
of had to take like this this gamble on yourself
and say, look, I need to get to a place
where I'm going to be seen, and even then you

(54:35):
weren't necessarily seen it, tu Lane, but take me through
that whole process and just kind of the mixed emotions
of leaving that behind because you knew you had to
get to another level.

Speaker 5 (54:46):
Yeah, it was a hard decision.

Speaker 7 (54:48):
I remember, like really going back and forth with it.
I remember I had, you know, thought in my head
when I was younger, maybe I could leave, but I
never felt like the situation was right, and I didn't.
I never was a guy who just wanted to jump
ship because the Grass team, like it was on the
other side.

Speaker 6 (55:03):
I wanted to graduate.

Speaker 7 (55:05):
I wanted to just continue to develop my game, and
when that time came, I just had my head. I
had to take a shot out myself.

Speaker 6 (55:12):
Like you said, I want to get to the highest level.

Speaker 7 (55:15):
And then even mech was in Tulane, I was thinking,
like because like the new playoff and I have much
belief and coach Summer on what they were doing in
the lane and winning conference championships, and I was like, man,
we can have a chance to compete at the college playoff.

Speaker 6 (55:28):
There was a need of the position.

Speaker 7 (55:30):
So I jumped on Tulane because obviously, like there was
a great opportunity for me.

Speaker 1 (55:34):
And so yeah, but even then, after your year in
Tulane and you had a good year, right, but after
that year in Tulane you still had to kind of
ship away and let other guys get seen before you, right.

Speaker 7 (55:50):
Yeah, Yeah, it's kind of been my story, like like
you said, like having just having just like a sort
of like had to be pay is being patient. It's
grinding and keeping my head down and not trying to
look at anybody else, being in my own land. That's
been the same song I've been singing all my life.
So it's like that's my motivation now, like staying ready,

(56:13):
staying of course, and keeping my head down and just working.

Speaker 1 (56:17):
My guest is Jonathan Edwards, the cornerback of the Colts,
the only member of the roster that was initially when
the fifty three man announced that was an undrafted free
agent to make the squad. Jonathan, The reason I ask
all of that is to then bring it to this
question and just kind of think about it for a
second if it makes sense when I ask it, if

(56:40):
you had gone out of Parkway North High School and
you have been able to do in the gymnasium the
caps of Miszoo and Illinois, and you know, I'll throw
what you know, Louisville in there whatever and get the
pomp and circumstance that comes with being a big recruit
and having that that stage right away for you. If

(57:01):
it had gone that way for you, would we be
having this conversation with you as an NFL player.

Speaker 7 (57:08):
I mean, that's that's talks we get to have of
ourselves all the time. Like the layd has planned every
step of my life, and everything has happened for a reason,
and I wouldn't want to change any other way it's happened.
Like I wouldn't change anything if I could go back
and do it over again, I wouldn't even say I
want to be drafted.

Speaker 6 (57:26):
Like everything that's.

Speaker 7 (57:27):
Happened has been for my good and has benefited me
so much, And I can stand here today and say
that with much confidence. Like man, I wouldn't rewrite anything.

Speaker 1 (57:36):
So yeah, is it weird to go into practice and
have to do reps and occasionally, you know, lay a
hit on Will Mallory knowing that you played for Kurt Mallory.

Speaker 6 (57:47):
It's funny.

Speaker 7 (57:48):
It's funny because like every time we see him, I
always see well, it's like man, like that my old
coach este and we always have good conversations. He always
when I first got here, he made sure to like
introduce himself and guys here or just that's just the
model here, Like we just got guys with great character,
not only Will, but just the whole locker room guys
are welcoming from day one.

Speaker 8 (58:07):
So but it's cool though.

Speaker 7 (58:08):
Because I went to the golf out of Indian the
state over in May and Will made his way over
there also, So it was cool knowing that. It's kind
of like, you know people of the same people.

Speaker 1 (58:19):
So what did Kurt Mallory mean to you? Not just
as a player, but just being away from home for
the first time perhaps and being in a new area
and just having that guidance, What did Kurt Mallory the
man mean to you?

Speaker 7 (58:35):
Coach Malley the Man I really appreciate so much because
we have similar values here on the coach that he
has in the United State, like setting a very high
standard but having a high character while we do everything.
So it's like little things like being fifteen minutes.

Speaker 6 (58:50):
Early to the meeting.

Speaker 7 (58:51):
It created good values for me a young man to
just want to not just throw in, but just be
a guy who can be dependent on time or just
said in the standing in the weight room, like beeing
a guy that's not always for blitzing glamour, but just
me and somebody that just wants to work hard and
take the results that you worked for. Honestly, I remember
him saying words like us working hard only gives us

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a chance. So if you don't work hard, you don't
have a chance at all. But even if you work hard,
winning games is hard. So I just remember stuff like that,
like saying like we have that's the least we can do.

Speaker 6 (59:23):
Working hard as the least you can do to give
yourself a chance.

Speaker 7 (59:26):
So little things like that I take away a lot.

Speaker 1 (59:29):
So Jonathan, I could probably sit here and talk to
you for three hours. I know you've got places to
be and things to do. I didn't want to, and
I appreciate it. I think it's a great story right
in all of it. I'm curious of this in conclusion,
at what point did you realize that this was possibly
in the cards for you? At what point during camp

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did you realize, you know what, I might make this
roster and this reality may be right here at my fingertips.
When did you realize that you look like you were
going to be an NFL player?

Speaker 6 (01:00:04):
You know if I can be completely honest.

Speaker 7 (01:00:06):
Before going into training camp, I told myself, like, I'm
going to treat every day the same and just prove
that I want to be here Indianapolis and be a coke.

Speaker 6 (01:00:16):
Like that was my day by day mindset.

Speaker 7 (01:00:20):
Now, when God started to go down, I remember vividly
like a joint the joint practice versus Baltimore, and I
felt like more confident out there. The game was slower
and the game started slow down. I started progressing because
I've had I had practices in training camp what seemed
like nothing go right, Like I'm going against guys like
Ad Right and Alec Pierce and just like getting better

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but being in the right position but not being able
to make the play. But I feel like the turning
point for me was like the first joint practice first
the Ravens and then going to the first preasons game
and in the second preseason game, like That's why I
felt like I started to get my groove and starting
to take off from there and then finishing strong like.

Speaker 6 (01:00:58):
I did the last week.

Speaker 7 (01:00:59):
So I would say that that key MoMA was, like
I've been saying, was that first joint practice from with
the Ravens.

Speaker 1 (01:01:05):
So why the Colts. I mean, when when it came
how many different franchises reached out to you out of
Tulane to offer you the opportunity or the or was
it kind of the Jonathan Edward story. This was the
place one place that reached out.

Speaker 7 (01:01:19):
It was it was amount of a good amount of
teams that reached out to myself and my agent about
me getting the opportunity to go on their team. But
really what stood out without me with the coaches, just
the coaching staff. They were the only team that gave
me a thirty Visit invited me over, Like I came
in right away, and.

Speaker 6 (01:01:38):
I felt like I clicked really well with the coaches.
I like, I love like the first thing we.

Speaker 7 (01:01:42):
Seeing like all over the building, this is them prioritizing
character and being time like those little balues I've been
used to all my life, like even with my parents
been tramped that way, Like it was so attractive to me.
And then I just liked how what the coach stood
about and just like the direction they're going in. So
that really was what won me over.

Speaker 1 (01:02:03):
Well, Jonathan, listen, it's our job in what I do
to have an objectivity and to not have favorites, not
have rooting interest those kinds of things. I have never
owned a Colts jersey, but if I do, it might
have to be a thirty five. I'm all in, man,
I'm all in on this. I'm pulling for you, and
we look forward to having you three times a week
on the show over the course of this. I'm kidding there,

(01:02:25):
of course, but I do appreciate it, man, time.

Speaker 7 (01:02:27):
You need me, Man, I appreciate you so much for
having me.

Speaker 6 (01:02:30):
It's on and truly well.

Speaker 1 (01:02:32):
We appreciate it. Go Trees, go Green Wave, and go Colts.
Jonathan Edwards, the corner for the Indianapolis Colts, appreciate it.

Speaker 6 (01:02:39):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:02:40):
Great conversation and good stuff about Indiana state and again
and I had a feeling Stephanie White can and join
us here in just a minute. I had a feeling
that that's exactly where that was going to go, just
in terms of how much did your your journey, so
to speak, make this possibility for you and this opportunity

(01:03:05):
and just that drive and I that was an awesome conversation.
Be up an available on the podcast form of course
at one oh seven five the fan dot Com later today.
If you did not hear the totality of that. We
asked that you wait untill after John Show to do it,
but joining us now. And you know what, Eddie, we
completely drop the ball here when when we booked and

(01:03:28):
scheduled for coach Stephanie White to come on because it's
not right at the top of the segment, we can't
do our typical musical bed intro. And I actually, and
maybe this was this was actually the sports radio GUIDs
looking down upon us because Coach White had requested Taylor
Swift and then she really no swifty intro? Right, no

(01:03:49):
Swifty intro, but she joins us nonetheless, Stephanie, I apologize.
I didn't think about the fact that we're not coming
right out of a break and we don't have Taylor
for you. Sorry, we lost you there for a second.

Speaker 4 (01:04:02):
Now go ahead, I'm in a conspiracy right now.

Speaker 1 (01:04:06):
Well listen my apologies. What we will get. I've got
nothing against Taylor Swift. Now, are you a Taylor Swift
fan per se or is it just because she's been
in the news.

Speaker 4 (01:04:16):
Well, I'm a Taylor Swift fan. Tell my kids when,
especially when they were young, we would sing Taylor Swift
in the kitchen all day long.

Speaker 6 (01:04:23):
So yeah, Taylor Swift fan.

Speaker 4 (01:04:24):
But yes, of course she's been in the news, so
we've got to send out a congratulations, right, Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:04:29):
Fair enough Kaitlyn Clark.

Speaker 2 (01:04:30):
Okay, when the Travis Kelsey engagement came out, we know
she's a big Taylor Swift fan.

Speaker 4 (01:04:35):
She was, she was definitely celebrating, Okay, big Chiefs fan.
So I mean, what more could she ask for?

Speaker 1 (01:04:42):
Actually, yes, because not And for those that don't know,
Kaitlin Clark has been a Chief fan I believe growing
up because of her, you know, in Iowa. That's that's
kind of Chiefs territory. Let's get to that, which is
obviously the elephant in the room, coach Stephanie White of
the Indiana Fever, and that is the announcement yesterday that
Kaitlyn Clark will miss the remain of the season. At

(01:05:03):
the risk of being elementary with this, would this decision
have been the same if, for example, the situation was
different with the rest of your roster and you were
one hundred percent healthy and she was the only missing piece,
et cetera.

Speaker 4 (01:05:17):
Yeah, I would have been the same. I mean, you know,
we're at that point where you know, we want to
make sure that we are putting Caitlin's long term health
and wellness above everything else, and you know, making sure
that she's one hundred percent healthy and ready before she
returned was the priority. And you know, unfortunately we just
kind of we've run out of time to get her
ready in the way that she would need to be

(01:05:39):
ready at this time of year.

Speaker 1 (01:05:41):
Which injury is it that is holding her back?

Speaker 4 (01:05:47):
I mean essentially the original injury in July, the groin,
and you think about you know, with the ankle, we
don't really know because she's been rehabbing broke both congruently,
so we could have been in the same position. It's
slowed the progress. But at the same time, you know,
with soft tissue injuries and everything else, it's it's just
they're so tricky, you know. And Kitlyn's been doing her part.

(01:06:10):
I mean, she's been trying incredibly hard in the weight room,
working on the floor to get ready because the intent
was for her to return, and we've just unfortunately run
out of run out of runway.

Speaker 1 (01:06:21):
You know, I look at it. Stephanie White is our guest,
the head coach of the Fever, and coach I look
at it, and you tell me if there's an element
of this that is true. I know that you're disappointed
for Caitlyn Clark. I know that Caitlyn Clark's disappointed. I
know that you're disappointed for the fans, and I know
the fans are disappointed. But I also feel a disappointment

(01:06:42):
for the rest of the roster because I think this
is a year where you have players that have been
put in some of the most unusual circumstances that you
could see, and yet they have stayed the course and
it is owed to them to give them the best
operaortunity to win games and get into the postseason and

(01:07:03):
win with it. What has been kind of the mental,
I guess approach of your roster with all that has
gone on.

Speaker 4 (01:07:11):
Yeah, you know, I've given these these women. I give
them a lot of credit. Now, first and foremost, they're
great human beings, and so their their ability to want
empathize with their teammates, but at the same time understand
that that that this is an opportunity for other teammates
and and too to be flexible, to be resilient.

Speaker 6 (01:07:32):
I mean all of these.

Speaker 4 (01:07:33):
Things, and I think that the mindset of the team
and the mentality of this team is.

Speaker 6 (01:07:37):
To do whatever it takes.

Speaker 4 (01:07:38):
And you know, we we spoke so much early in
the season about the depth of our roster and how
it's gonna be hard for everybody to play and and
what it looks like. And because of the depth of
our roster, we're still in a situation where where we're
fighting to get into the playoffs in spite of everything
that we've gone through, and we've got you know, five
players that we've we've lost to now season ending injuries

(01:07:59):
for which started at various points in the season, and uh,
and for our team to just continue to put one
foot in front of the other, to continue to elevate
the way that they've played and elevate one another and
position ourselves to be, you know, right in the hunt
where we are. I think it's it's it's an incredible
it's an incredible testament to their mindset, their toughness, their resilience,

(01:08:21):
their ability to bounce back, their have been ability to
handle disappointments and then fuel it in ways that that
you're able to create positive, positive outcomes.

Speaker 1 (01:08:31):
When you look at and I know there's basketball to
be played this year. Coach Okay, so I don't mean
it that way, but when you look at next year
when you're you're getting ready with a full roster of health, Okay,
do you look at the challenges this year as something
that will most benefit you in terms of just minutes
experience for your depth or is it more so psychological

(01:08:56):
experience and the mental advantage that can come with the
adversity they had to through this year.

Speaker 4 (01:09:01):
I think both, uh, you know, and when I when
I think about really the the cultural roots that are
that are that are being grown and established and you know,
anchored in for lack of a better term, it's just
I think it's gonna it's gonna pay dividends for for
this group down the road in the future. I mean,
there's no substitute for experience and and the the experience

(01:09:23):
that this group has had of constantly taking hits and
disappointments and frustrations and being able to weather the storm regardless.
The foundation is being built so where we're gonna be
able to handle those moments, continue to handle those moments
in games, and we're gonna be able to understand what
we have to do to push through tough moments in games,
and we're gonna have now had that experience, uh, throughout

(01:09:46):
the course of this season to understand and and quite frankly,
you know, be humbled enough to know how important every
moment is. And I think it's gonna pay dividends, you know,
down the road and in the future for this group.

Speaker 1 (01:10:00):
The Fever are in action tonight against the Chicago's Guy
seven thirty at the field House pregame at seven fifteen.
No Angel reaes for Chicago tonight. Coach, I wanted you
to if you could kind of expand on this, and
that is the decision with Caitlin Clark yesterday. I mean
that announcement and obviously I realize you guys were aware
that will probably well before that announcement. But what all

(01:10:22):
goes into that when you are taking a marquee player
like that and deciding the year is complete. How much
of that is player decision? How much of that is
franchise decision? You know? And just what all? How did
she handle that determination?

Speaker 6 (01:10:41):
Well?

Speaker 4 (01:10:41):
I think first and foremost, you know, the priority of
getting her in position that she could get out there
on the floor and be successful. You know that that's
giving as much time as needed, and that that's you know,
quite frankly, why why there's no timeline, It's just you.
You want to make sure that she she is is
is physically ready to go, that she's you know, in

(01:11:04):
a position where not just from a from a health
standpoint and wellness standpoint, but an endurance standpoint at this
point in the year. I mean that that growing injury
was middle of July and now we're we're almost middle
of September, and and for her, the work that she's
put in, I mean, you know, I'm I'm not gonna
speak for Caitlin, but but as a former athlete who's
gone through injury, you know, it's it's it's tough, and

(01:11:26):
it's in frustrating any time that you feel like you're
not in a position that you want to be in
in spite of putting in all the work that it takes.
And so you know, it's it's a collaborative decision. It's
lots of conversations. You know, we knew, we knew that
this that this road trip and being able to see
if we could get her on the floor and get
get contact on the floor was going to be important,

(01:11:48):
and and really wanted to make sure that we were
giving every opportunity for her to be back, and and
and then you know, coming back and just seeing that
that we hadn't made the progress that we'd hoped, and
thinking about what kind of game shape she would need
to be in at this point in the season, and
also how teams play her. I mean, they play Kaitlyn

(01:12:09):
Clark differently than they play anyone else ninety four feet
level of physicality, the endurance that's necessary to be able
to play, quite honestly, playoff basketball, because that's what every
game right now. So it was a collective, collective conversations,
collective decisions, and ultimately, yes, it's frustrating. She wants to
be out there on the floor, and yes it's frustrating

(01:12:30):
we want her to be out there on the floor.
But again, our priority has always been her long term
health and wellness and we don't want to sacrifice that.

Speaker 1 (01:12:38):
You dealt with injury as a player, and you're obviously
a competitor, do you now and Caitlyn Clark has not,
to my knowledge at least certainly at Iowa, had this
level of an injury that is lingered. Do you tutor
her a little bit or lean does she lean on
you in terms of understanding the emotional aspect and the
psychology that goes with being an elite athlete going through injury.

Speaker 4 (01:13:01):
I think she's got great resources myself. You know, Bree January, Kareema, Christmas.

Speaker 6 (01:13:06):
Kelly on our staff, you know, all of which have.

Speaker 4 (01:13:09):
Gone through multiple injuries in season, out of season, have
gone through what it takes to rehab, the frustrations of
being injured, the isolation of being injured, and the work that.

Speaker 6 (01:13:22):
It takes to come back.

Speaker 4 (01:13:23):
I mean, so I think she's got great resources that
we're available to her. She's also got other resources around
her that she's able to utilize. You know, I think
the biggest thing is frustration and disappointment and then making
sure you channel that to the rehab and to the
to the strength and conditioning, into all the things that
it takes to put yourself in position that when we

(01:13:43):
come back in twenty twenty six, we're one hundred percent healthy,
ready to go.

Speaker 1 (01:13:46):
Okay, lastly, coach, and then we'll let you go. I
appreciate the time you talk about resources. This week, the
groundbreaking seventy eight million dollar sports performance dedicated specifically to
the fever. I've seen the Pacers facilities so I know
how awesome it is and now to have one that
is catered towards you know, specifically a women's basketball team
that will be how big for you and in what way?

Speaker 6 (01:14:09):
Oh, it's huge?

Speaker 4 (01:14:10):
I mean number one. As as as someone who has
been a part of this organization in various forms since
the beginning, it's it was an emotional day. The vision,
the belief, the commitment that the Simon family has made
to this organization from day one to now when it
when it's going to another level is just incredible. These

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women deserve it. They're the best in the world. They
deserve to have the best in the world at their fingertips.
And and you know, dedicated space that not just for
athletes but directly relegated to female athletes and the needs
of female athletes is huge. And I think it it
continues to show that that the Simon family and our
partners are want to be leaders in women's sports and

(01:14:54):
leaders in women's sports movement. I think it's going to
help us from a free agency standpoint. It's going to
reward you know, our past players, our present players with
the space that they deserve, and the future players that
we have that are coming into going to come into
the INDIANAFR organization understand how important and what a priority
their health and wellness is.

Speaker 1 (01:15:15):
Fever in action tonight seven thirty pre game seven fifteen,
Eddie Garrison, We'll have it. It is the Fever and
the Chicago Sky. Stephanie White, the head coach on a
busy week for Indiana, certainly appreciate it. Coach, all right,
thanks you, Stephanie White joining us on the program. We'll
come back. We'll get a little Taylor Swift in as well,
and then high school football getting in away. Kyle Nenripp
going to join us preview it and talk about some

(01:15:37):
of their as one kid on the West side man
that is. I looked at it and I'm like, how
in the world is every program not in on him.
We'll talk about that in fifteen. I'm all in on
Jonathan Edwards. I'm telling you and I listen. I'll be

(01:16:00):
totally honest about this. I think I've changed a lot
in my over the course of my career, and I
took and it was a different era when I started
in sports television, sports media, sports radio for that matter.

(01:16:21):
It was a different era. And I'm not saying that
it was right versus wrong. Now, any of that, it
was just different, and the fact that it was so
ingrained in all of us to have an objectivity and
have no rooting interest. And I know that that irks
a lot of people, and I get it, and I'm

(01:16:42):
not saying they're wrong. But I've told the story before
of when I was in the sixth grade, I called
Ed Sorenson at WRTV. I just picked up the phone
and called and said, I want to be a sportscaster.
And he said, well, you know, come down and have
your pay drop you off. And I shadowed under Ed

(01:17:02):
and then the next day I called him again and
I just I kind of never went away. And that's
how my career began, was just going in and I
loved it. I loved everything about just going into the
Channel six Sports office and popping in from time to
time and just sitting in there and reading media guides
and being a fly on the wall. And eventually one

(01:17:23):
day Ed and I was the biggest IU fan on
the planet and I was always asking about IU and
you know, hey, did you happen to see on the feeds?
Did Jay Edwards get any minutes for the Clippers? And
you know, all of it right, and Ed said to
me one day, Look, you don't know where your career
is going to take you, but wherever it does, if

(01:17:45):
you end up back in Indianapolis, you can't be a
face painting pompom waiver because not everybody in Indianapolis is
an IU fan. You're gonna want them to watch you,
whether they root for prdud under name Butler, Indiana, whatever
it might be. And when you're talking about Indiana, you
need them to trust and understand that what you're saying
is an observation and not a rooting interest, but an objective,

(01:18:07):
down the middle observation or a fact based observation. And
that's when he said to me, you need to pick
a team that you will likely never cover and let
that be your sports fandom outlet. And that's how I
became a Clemson fan, and for that reason when I
got into this line of work and ended up in Indianapolis.

(01:18:32):
Like most people of my era, we were just trained
and conditioned to not be of rooting interest for a team.
So that that way, whether you are talking good or
bad about them, the person ingesting what you were saying
can say, well, at the very least I know what
I'm getting is a fact based observation or report as

(01:18:53):
opposed to with bias. And I know that those are
all polarizing terms in today's media stuff. But because that
was the way that I was conditioned for so many years,
especially when I first got in the business, I was
almost over compensatory to being objective, maybe even to the
point of forcing myself to be almost cynical, because I

(01:19:17):
didn't want to be a pompom waiver. I'm not saying
that that's right or wrong. It's just the era in
which I came up. And so for that reason, now
that I'm older and I've been around it a long time,
and that's what I said about the Pacers Run. Deep
down inside of me was this little kid that couldn't

(01:19:38):
wait to go see Wayman Tisdale play and sang the
song of Pacer Pride, the Pride of Indiana when and
watched Channel four and watch games when they were terrible
and they were winning twenty one games and I was
eleven years old. So when they made that finals run,
I'm like, you know what, I'm I'm stepping away from
Superman and I'm back to Clark Kent and I'm going

(01:19:59):
to be a Pacer fan. And while I still try
to maintain that objectivity, there are certain storylines and players
where I go, yeah, as a human being, you're going
to root for that. And Jonathan Edwards is one of them.
That guy was awesome. That was an awesome His answers
were awesome, His personality was awesome. I don't know him personally.

(01:20:20):
That doesn't mean that we know who he is as
a person, but I think he gives us a good idea.
And you watch that and you hear that, and you say, go,
number thirty five, Let's go Colts. Let's go Jonathan Edwards. Jake.

Speaker 2 (01:20:30):
Something that always stands out to me. You know, we
talked to so many players, whether that's you know, Colts,
Pacers or you name it. You know, there's like a
level of like a like he respects other people because
he actually said your name, Like he made it out
of his way to like, yeah, Jake, yeah, this, yeah that,
instead of you know.

Speaker 1 (01:20:44):
Just completely ignoring it. Yeah. I think that's it. It's
just a little things like that. You're right totally. Kyle
Nedenripp joins us next big slate of games in high
school football upcoming. It's a Friday means that we get
to talk about and last week, by the way, so
Crystal House is one of the teams that I'm trying

(01:21:05):
to back and support, and last week I actually went
online to look and see and their game was the
only unreported game. So I was like, wait a minute,
did they win or not win? And I couldn't find
any result for it whatsoever, and so I'm not certain

(01:21:25):
whether or not they won. I do know this, Carmel
and Kevin Wright is a guy that I have known
since he first started coaching high school football. He was
an assistant when I was in high school at North Central.
Of course, his dad a legend, and I think Carmel's
for real. That's one of the things that we can
talk about with our next guest.

Speaker 8 (01:21:46):
Speaking of lost and clueless, So we bring on Kyle
Needenrip from the.

Speaker 1 (01:21:50):
R That's right. He joins us now and they always busy,
very busy. Today guest line Kyle Ndtrip joins the program.
All right, Kyle, I'll begin with this. I did not
get a chance to see and I'm gonna put you
on the spot because you may not remember or have
it all the top of your head. Did Crystal House
win last week.

Speaker 8 (01:22:07):
No, and I cannot remember who they played right now.
It's escaping me.

Speaker 1 (01:22:12):
It was the last It was the only unreported score
when I checked late last Friday night.

Speaker 8 (01:22:18):
Yes, I believe it was a team from Gary.

Speaker 1 (01:22:19):
Okay, let's begin with this and I'll start where I
was just talking. Carmel is for real, are they not?
It looks like, you know, when Kevin Wright has had
success everywhere he has gone, Carmel has been a obviously
a rich tradition of football, but they had some down
years by their standards. But it looks like they are

(01:22:40):
for real. Tell me I'm wrong.

Speaker 8 (01:22:43):
No, you're definitely, You're definitely on track. I you know,
I had a chance to see Carmel in person last
week against Westfield and you know, expected a really good
game and it was. You know, Westfield fell behind big.
It was twenty to zero going in the halftime, and
then battled back. You know, we're within the ten with
a chance to cut it even further, and then the interception,

(01:23:04):
really nice play in the end zone by Carmel's defensive
back Grace and George. But from there Carmel kind of role.
It was thirty four to ten and you know, these
first two games, man, it's been very impressive what they've
done with fishers in Westfield these first two weeks. And
you know, from talking to Kevin in the preseason, you know,
I don't think he fully knew like what he had exactly.

(01:23:25):
You know, you're coming in after you know, a long
time away from the high school game, and you know
he was he believed he had a good team, but
you know, you don't know until you get out there. Well,
you know, the first two weeks they've been super impressive.
They went from outside the top ten to number three
in sixth a very quickly. So you know, I guess
the Carmel is Carmel back question will be answered, you

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know later in this you know, obviously in the sectional
and beyond. But but yeah, they're definitely on the right track.
Their offense is just really dynamic and explosive and fast paced.
And then you know they're defense really played exceptional against Westfield,
And you know, I don't know if you know, there's
there's many there. You know, definitely Brownsburg Center Grove. You

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know we'll see I cover HCA avon tonight. I'm curiously
both those teams, but you put them right in the
upper echelon a six A. I think without hesitation, right now,
you know.

Speaker 1 (01:24:18):
One of the guys in the area, Kyle Kyle Medreb
from the Indianapolis Stars, our guest talking in high school football,
Brandon Sharp at Brownsburg. I mean looks like a like
a Tyreek Hill kind of player. I mean, you get
him in space and let him go. Now, I'm talking
a very limited scope by which I've seen him, and
I was surprised to see. I think he's a junior

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that his offers lists to this point are not to
the level of I'm like, man, this guy looks unstoppable.
But part of that may be size. He's five eleven,
one sixty. Did I just see like a small sample
size where he looked unbelievable in particularly in the Cathedral game.
Or is he, in fact one of the best players
in the area and one whose offers will only.

Speaker 8 (01:24:57):
Escalate They will definite only escalate. I think I think
you're on track with what maybe why the you know
the Alabama's and maybe Alabama's are on considering their first
game of the year, but uh, you know, some of
the some of the blue blue chip you know programs
haven't offered yet you know, and he did visit Ohio
State last weekend. So I'm curious. You know, Ohio States

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a little bit later to offer normally, just because they
have the pick of the litter, uh, you know when
it comes to basically every position, but certainly receiver. So uh,
I'm curious to see what transpires. You know, some of
these other blue chip programs. I think the only reason
is really his size. I mean, he's he's but you
also look at where he'll play in college. You know
that that slot receiver probably I would assume, and you know,

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he's so dynamic and so shifty. You know, he's unlike
a lot of players, uh that that I see on
Friday nights. I mean, so I think that will only
ramp up.

Speaker 6 (01:25:52):
You know.

Speaker 8 (01:25:52):
I I can't imagine he won't have a you know,
another you know, chunk of offers that are going to
be coming his way. And you know, he had over
a thousand yards as a sophomore, so he can't really
say he hasn't done it. You know, he's done it
at the six A level. They won State. He's had
two huge games already this season, and anytime he touches
the ball, he's he's he's got a chance to take

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it to the house. And I'm you know, I've seen
him play for a while. I know what kind of
a player he is, and you know, and he's got
a great quarterback too, and and a great team around him.
But that that, uh yeah, you're right about sharp. He's
he's a guy who can you know, change a game
in a hurry, and he's done that throughout his career
so far. So I think, you know, he's only going
to have more offers. If he was you know, six four,

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six five, he'd be a five star, you know, and
that'd be over with. But but he'll he'll uh you know,
he'll get his share for sure. And he's he's on
the shortlist and most talented players in the state Crystal House.

Speaker 1 (01:26:46):
By the way, tonight takes on Indianapolis Washington. That's a
game of two programs, the kids that are working hard
and programs that are trying to get things going in
the right direction. And they've got kids that are working
hard to do that. So we wish the best of
luck to both of those schools. I know that you
had mentioned HC you're going to have tonight. What other
games tonight jump out at you, Kyle as the big matchups.

Speaker 8 (01:27:09):
Yeah, it was Christos played the homeschool out of Nobles.

Speaker 6 (01:27:11):
So that's right.

Speaker 8 (01:27:12):
That was a that was a game that we talked
about a little bit last week. But yeah, I would
say some of the better games. You know, it's kind
of a week where all the conference games start, you know,
or a lot of them do anyway, So a lot
of the HCC they all play each other. There's some
mick games tonight. Uh there's the new conference. Uh, you
have a really good game tonight. Trenton Central plays at

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Try West and there's a they made I seventy four
trophy to go with that. So that's pretty cool. Uh
that Legends who's your Legends conference?

Speaker 6 (01:27:42):
Is what that is.

Speaker 8 (01:27:43):
That's first game ever.

Speaker 6 (01:27:44):
In that league.

Speaker 8 (01:27:44):
So but then out of the heavyweights hc avon I
mentioned Ron College Guitard. That rivalry kicks up again tonight
at Stard. Interesting game too. East Central goes to Lawrence
North and that's it's kind of a different game. You
know East Central's you know their four A by enrollment,
they're playing five A via the success factor. Lawrence North

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very fast athletic team, so kind of a contrast of
styles a little bit there. You mentioned Brownsburg. They play
Franklin Central tonight, both those teams two and oh, and
also i'd say Sascinia Beach Grove is definitely a game
to watch those Both those teams are two and o
and put up some really good offensive numbers this year.
And then probably the other one be Plainfield Morsville in
the Mid State Conference, will be a will be a

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fun game, I think in Plainfield as one of the
last two in that series after Morrisville kind of had
dominated for a few years, so that that old rivalry
gets renewed tonight as well.

Speaker 1 (01:28:41):
The Mid State You know, you mentioned that seventy four trophy.
Now what they ought to do is like say Penal
and Heights and handl on the Southeastern they should have
an I sixty nine trophy. It's just an orange cone
that they hand back and forth. Right, is that right?

Speaker 8 (01:28:52):
There's probably a lot of highways you could do.

Speaker 1 (01:28:54):
That far after the especially right now, right, no question exactly. Hey,
Cathedral tonight taking on, you know, and Cathedral does this
a lot. They got Cincinnati Saint Xavier tonight. Cathedral's probably
the most tradition laden program in the area. And I
think a lot of times at the beginning of the
year you look at Cathedral and you think, boyd down

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here for Cathedral. But I'll give them credit, they kind
of step outside themselves and really challenge themselves typically earlier
in the year, and then that paced dividend at the
end of the year in fact against Brownsburg. Is that
an example? Did we learn more about Brownsburg in that
game or Cathedral? And what are we looking to learn
about them tonight?

Speaker 8 (01:29:34):
Definitely, I think we learned about Brownsburg that there are
you know, because Cathedral, you know, first week of the season,
you know, they go out and be Ben Davis and
where they want ate nothing. I don've been Davis as
young and that sort of thing. But I mean to
hold Cathedral without a point to me, that says a
lot about where kind of where Brownsburg's at right now. Cathedral.
The Saint Xavier game has been great for them. I

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mean this has been, you know, a game they have
gone back and forth the last several years, you know,
really close games every year, and and Saint x is
always a team that's ranked real high in the nation
and in Ohio. Uh So it's a great test for them.
I think the you know, the keyfer Cathedral is just
like you mentioned to just kind of you know, get
better towards the end of the year. Their record is

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never indicative of how tough they are once they get
to the tournament. And really, you know a little bit
different this year. They've been playing six A. Now they're
playing five A this year. So really the game you
know everybody probably has circled is not even on the
schedule yet. It's it's that new Pal game because they
will likely see each other down the road in the
sectional so and playingfields in there too. So you've got

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three teams that are really strong, but probably the Newpaul
Cathedral game is is inevitable to some extent, and you know,
you're just kind of I know, coach Peebles likes his team.
They're they're a good team up front. They they've run
the ball really well and didn't have much success against Brownsburg,
But like I said, I think that speaks to Brownsburg
just has a lot of explosive, explosive players. Cathedral probably

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maybe not quite as many in comparison, but again, a
five A team, uh that that will get tested. They
play Center Grove down the road, to which that would be,
you know, an interesting game to kind of compare scores against.
But uh, but yeah, I think they'll be fine. I mean,
I think the whole key for them is to just
get ready for that tournament run. And probably whoever comes
out of that sectional, you know, in five A is

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is gonna be the favorite in that class. You know.
I I know there's other good teams out there, but
the winner of that newpal Cathedral slash Plainfield sectional is
is gonna have a really good chance.

Speaker 1 (01:31:35):
North Central Warren Central tonight, north Side east Side advantage.

Speaker 8 (01:31:39):
Who I'm gonna say Warren, you know, and I like
what North Central's done. Uh, they got that big first
win and really the score last week. They played the
hc uh tougher than they have in the past, you know,
have in recent years. So but I'm gonna say Warren,
I like, really like the running back who has had

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a couple of good games. They went up to Warsaw
last week and won twenty eight fourteen. That Warsaw team,
of course, played in the State five A finals. A
good program, went on the road and won. They're playing
some different quarterbacks, kind of mixing some guys in. But
Keon Thomas. They're running back. He went to visited Purdue
last weekend. He had a bucks seventy two last week

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and three tds. He's really played well against Center Grove.
He's tough, so I give them the slight advantage. But
North Central Javon Brooks definitely a name to know for
the Panthers. He had three catches for ninety four and
a touchdown last week in that lost to HC. So
North Central obviously very young. Still I think their best
best football's ahead of them, even in coming years. But

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laying the groundwork I think for you know, for a
turnaround for that program.

Speaker 1 (01:32:47):
I said, come on when you said Warren over North Central,
But I think you're probably right. I'm realistic to it.
But nonetheless, thing would be a good game. What's that?

Speaker 8 (01:32:54):
Yeah, I think it'll be a good game. I do.
I think I think I think Warren. You know, they're
young too in a lot of places and inexperience, So
you got you got a little bit of that on
both sides tonight.

Speaker 1 (01:33:04):
Kyle, appreciate it. Av On hs is what you got right.

Speaker 8 (01:33:08):
Yeah, I'll be out there Friday and we'll, you know,
we'll see what happens. Should be a great game.

Speaker 1 (01:33:12):
I appreciate it. Kyle Needrip joining us from the Indianapolis Star.
We talked about Cathedral. One of their protest alums is
Kevin Bowen. You hear him in the morning. You're also
going to hear him next. Speaking of that Colts Dolphins game.
You heard me mention it a couple of times earlier.
It is your chance to start the NFL season and
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in Indiana. Marty and the Gang. They are always hospitable.
I love it there at the Slipper Noodle nine thirty
in the morning. Everything getting underway on Sunday before you
go into Lucas Oil Stadium. Drake Specials. Of course, they're
fabulous food at the Noodle. Tailgate games going on and
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(01:33:57):
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But it begins with the fan the Noodle nine thirty
on Sunday with jeff Rickord. There, of course you hear
Jeff in the morning along with James Boyd and our

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next guest who joins us on the guest line, Kevin Bowen,
as he will do each and every Friday leading into
Colts games. Kevin, let's begin right away with this one,
and that is what I've said with John and others
throughout the course of the week, but I want you
to expand upon it. You always want to get off
on the right foot on a season, and you want

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to for the first time since they beat Terrell Pryor
and the Raiders get a win an opening game to
start the season. But this one, to me is even
bigger with Miami because, barring injury on either side, I
think Miami and Denver boats the colts first two opponents,
are two teams that really have similar plots within the AFC,

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and you could theoretically look at and say, these are
the teams that Indianapolis if they want to get into
the postseason, that we're going to be scoreboard watching in
November and December, and therefore you got to get off
on a good foot with them right now. Am I
giving too much credit to Indianapolis or too little credit
to Miami and Denver.

Speaker 9 (01:35:21):
First, Happy belated birthday, Thank you the great great birthday. No,
I think you're spot on, and so yeah, I mean
it's really conversation I think I or we have had
since the schedule came out in May. I think if
you rank the importance of the seventeen games in the schedule,
I would argue, outside of the two Houston games, these

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games right here, Miami and Denver, as you pointed out,
are three and four, So I think they're huge. And
I don't even care about like the week one drought.
I mean, sure, I guess it matters. But you know,
wherever the Miami or Denver games would have fallen on
the schedule, I probably would have ranked them pretty high.
The fact that they're both at home is well, I
think adds to it.

Speaker 6 (01:36:02):
So yeah. I mean, if you look at recent years.

Speaker 9 (01:36:04):
Miami and India, especially Denver here more last year, they
have been right there in the old wild card pool
trying to get one of those three spots. So yes,
I think it takes on even more importance here.

Speaker 6 (01:36:17):
Coming up on Sunday, what.

Speaker 1 (01:36:19):
Is an area Kevin that we have not talked. We've
talked so much about the quarterback spot. And I know
that with Daniel Jones. There's a ton of intriguing in
Tyler Warren as well. Right, But is there an area
with this team and this roster and this construction thereof
that you're gonna find yourself consistently looking towards come Sunday

(01:36:43):
And because you just don't have a feel for it yet,
it's not been one of the main talking points.

Speaker 6 (01:36:51):
How about kicker?

Speaker 9 (01:36:53):
And I would say that for probably either team, to
be honest with you. So for the Colts, we know
the kicking situation. They cut in that Gay back in
the spring. Spencer Schrader, second year in the league, is
now the place kicker he is. He's got a booming leg,
that's no issue whatsoever. But he's only kicked five field
goals in his centfl career, kicked for three different teams.
He actually kicked in the Cooles opener last year when

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Matt Gay was hurt. But now he's a full time kicker.
And again the leg is of no issue. But you know,
for example, yes, they were out there the other day,
were out there of practice and he missed a short
one during practice, like, you know, is that going to
be showing up at all in game settings?

Speaker 6 (01:37:31):
So I would go there.

Speaker 9 (01:37:33):
And then for Miami, their kicker is actually hurt Jason
Sanders is a pretty accomplished kicker. They will use a
guy they named a Riley Patterson who did the Kicker
Tour last year, kicked for three different teams. I want
to say he was four of seven, so not great
in those appearances. So I think anytime you play an

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NFL game, period, especially one with you know, you go
off the Vegas line, it's one and a half point spread,
kicking Matt kicking matters in close games especially, So I
do know if such on it here there, but I
would probably go there.

Speaker 1 (01:38:07):
Okay, what about the opposite of that, which would be
an area that we have given a lot of credit
or there has been a lot of public credit given
to the Colts for improving or seemingly have it be better,
and you're not sold on it, and thus are like, yeah,
I don't know, we got to show me the proof
of the pudding.

Speaker 9 (01:38:29):
Yeah, I mean, I'd probably point to Cornerback. I mean
they have I would say, invested into that group really
like no other in the Chris Howard era. I cannot
recall a time they have invested this much into a
position group. And it's not like they have just gotten
rid of everybody from last year. They still have you know,
Kenny Moore, Jalen Jones, they still have some of those

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guys from last.

Speaker 6 (01:38:52):
Year hanging around.

Speaker 9 (01:38:53):
The question would become, you know, the investments, there are
some questions Shaver's lord. You know, you could probably chalk
it up to a lot of off the field stuff
for him, some tragic, frankly off the field stuff with
him last year and impacted his game. But he is
a twenty nine year old cornerback. You're hoping he gets
back to the level we saw in twenty twenty three
in prior years like that, you know Xavi and Howard

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to get in former All Pro but didn't play in
the NFL last year.

Speaker 6 (01:39:18):
So how do you look at that? Do you say
he's got fresh legs or.

Speaker 9 (01:39:20):
Do you say he's a thirty two year old corner
And Stefan Gilmore is the exception not the rule, So
that that would probably.

Speaker 6 (01:39:29):
Be the position group that you point to.

Speaker 9 (01:39:31):
And again I think you applaud Chris Ballard in one
way and that, Hey, you know, the Colts have made
some really serious investments into trying to change or add
to that position group for Loui an Arumo. But you know,
obviously the question is are they the right answers.

Speaker 1 (01:39:50):
Kevin Bowen is our guest. Do you hear him in
the mornings of course, on the Fan Morning Show along
with James Boyd and jeff Rickord. He's on the always busy,
especially today, always busy and available to be sponsored guest line? Kevin,
how discouraged were you buy the Notre Dame loss to Miami?
I have my thoughts on it, but I'll let you
go first.

Speaker 9 (01:40:12):
Well, I was scouraged because I'm because I'm a fan,
I guess, so I probably overreact either way. On next
to it, I don't know that there's two glasses in
front of me, like once is the glass half full
of Hey, did you watch the quarterback?

Speaker 6 (01:40:27):
Wow Poise?

Speaker 9 (01:40:28):
And you know I thought, he you know, delivered a
couple of important passes and you know, really did a
nice job in his first career start. And it's quarterback
and he's only a red shirt freshman, so you know,
theoretically you have him for another couple of years so,
and again Notre Dame lost a three point game on
the road to a top ten team, so you know,
I probably shouldn't overreact. The other part of me that
is a little worrisome is really the O line and

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D line, and for Notre Dame, like you probably aren't
going to be a top ten team, and the skill
groups or on the perimeter, but like O line and
D line, you have to be at Notre Dame, and
I just I don't know. I do think got pushed
around a little bit. They're probably more O line than
anything in that matchup. So that's where I do have
a little bit of nervous energy.

Speaker 6 (01:41:12):
And yes, you know, the.

Speaker 9 (01:41:15):
Playoff allows for a slip up, but it just shrinks
your margin for air. And with the first time starting quarterback,
you know, expecting him to be flawless over twelve game
season is probably not the expectation for you there.

Speaker 6 (01:41:28):
So I don't know.

Speaker 9 (01:41:29):
I'm probably staring at two glasses and I should just
get over it and worry about, you know, more important
things in life.

Speaker 6 (01:41:36):
But I'm a fan.

Speaker 1 (01:41:37):
Kevin. Do you know or have you met? I think
you have, I think you and I've had him on
the morning show together, and I'll say our buddy because
he's been on the lot of the shows a lot.
Do you recall JP Shadwick with the Jacksonville Jaguars.

Speaker 6 (01:41:50):
Yeah yeah, play by play voice, Yeah yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:41:52):
And he's you know, he's on their website, et cetera.
So he he is actually part of I was driving
back from Nashville with Nick Yeoman after the IndyCar Race
and we were listening to the Notre Dame Miami game
and he was the one doing the play by play
for it on the radio, and he made this point
which I thought was a really interesting point, and I

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thought it actually voted well for Notre Dame. And he
pointed out simply that that game on that particular night
was an extremely humid and hot night in Miami, as
most of them are, but that as the game went
on in the trenches, Miami had the advantage because their
players had been basically practicing in that and used to

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those elements and Notre Dame was not, and the fatigue
factor that naturally comes with that was the difference, and
that literally was what allowed that inner trench domination late
by Miami or control, I guess I should say late
by Miami, and I thought that actually was a really
interesting point. Do you think that's giving Notre Dame too
much credit?

Speaker 9 (01:42:56):
No, I think that's a fine point. I mean, like,
if you just want to live in a the loss
itself again, it's a three point road loss in you know,
kind of why I shouldn't say wild, but just you know,
different weather you don't typically have against the top ten team. Like,
I don't think it's it's probably stupid of me to.

Speaker 6 (01:43:13):
Overreact to that. I think I don't know. I'm probably
living in a.

Speaker 9 (01:43:18):
Bit of a world jake of like, how does Notre
Dame win a national title? Which credit honestly credit to
Brian Kelly first for getting Notre Dame back on solid footing,
and credit Marcus Freeman for like creating that good name.
It really hasn't been for quite a while. So that
question for me revolves around, all right, you need to
get home field and get to buy in the playoffs,
so you've got to be a top four team. And

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that's where I think Sunday's loss things for me. It's like, man,
you know, if if you run the table, I think,
I don't know, maybe you can't get back up in
the top four. But you know last year, the Northern
Illinois loss, albeit different.

Speaker 6 (01:43:50):
Than the Miami loss. You know, Notre Dame got I
think the last home playoff spot.

Speaker 9 (01:43:55):
Maybe it was the second to last. I think Ohio
State might have been the eight seed. Notre Dame is
the seventh seed, so.

Speaker 6 (01:43:59):
They want a home game, but they had to win
four in a row.

Speaker 9 (01:44:02):
And I think as you saw the playoffs evolve, you know,
they're Area. Their best defensive player, you know, gets hurt
in the IU game. You know, Karamia Love gets hurt
against USC in the final game, kind of re reaggravates
it during the playoff run, like you just need.

Speaker 6 (01:44:16):
A lot of things to go your way.

Speaker 9 (01:44:17):
And for me, I view it as he you need
to get three home games, or I should say you
need to be in the three game realm of the playoffs,
having the first game.

Speaker 6 (01:44:25):
At home to try and create that run.

Speaker 9 (01:44:27):
Whereas the loss of Miami plus probably another loss at
some point in the year. Yeah, no, nor Name can
still make the playoffs. But you know, are you the
eleven seed where now you're going to whatever the equivalent
to Ohio State last year in round one, you're you're
Tennessee or you know, something like that, or you're the
Penn State opponent going to Happy Valley. I just think

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that creates more of a daunting, you know, run to
trying to get back to the national title game and
obviously trying.

Speaker 6 (01:44:55):
To win it.

Speaker 1 (01:44:55):
At some point, is your son still picking games?

Speaker 6 (01:45:00):
He is? Yes, posted it last night. Yes, he has
made his pick.

Speaker 1 (01:45:04):
And he is how old now?

Speaker 6 (01:45:07):
He will be three on two today.

Speaker 1 (01:45:09):
So at what point do we enter into the realm
where he's no longer picking games based on helmet picks
but because he's crunching numbers.

Speaker 9 (01:45:18):
Yeah, that's a good question. He definitely is not there yet.
I don't think we'll be sending him to the Ivy
League or anything like that.

Speaker 3 (01:45:25):
Now.

Speaker 9 (01:45:25):
He certainly recognizes the Colts, And I think you and
I might have this conversation a month ago or so,
you know, I kind of said to my wife, you know,
somebody tweeted at me like a month ago, hey, are
we going to get the max bow and helmet picks?
And I thought, boy, is he getting to the age
where like he just knows.

Speaker 6 (01:45:40):
The cults, right, he sees the apparel.

Speaker 9 (01:45:43):
He's got an Andrew Lock jersey, like, you know, he
just kind of knows that logo. But then I thought
to myself, if there's any team out of the other
thirty I guess or thirty one I should say in
the NFL that he would pick, it's the Dolphins. I mean,
it's the dolphin on helmet. It's you know, a bit
of a vibrant green and orange. I mean, if he's

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not going to pick the Dolphins, then you know, you
might as well not even do the pick them. So yeah,
spoil alert after the meltdown. That'll probably create honestly birth
control for some people watching the first twenty seconds.

Speaker 6 (01:46:15):
Of the video, he does indeed go.

Speaker 9 (01:46:19):
With Miami Dolphins. So dolphin on the side of the
helmet won out and career record of twenty and fourteen.
If I could brag on the young kids.

Speaker 2 (01:46:27):
Kevin, I think, by the way, I think Matty Bowen
contributes to this pick of the Dolphins, by the way,
because he didn't have anything to do with the pick.
And then all of a sudden, she goes, hey, you
know what animal this is? And then he gets all
giddy for a dolphin. He goes, okay, yeah, can I
do this?

Speaker 6 (01:46:43):
Well, I will alert.

Speaker 9 (01:46:44):
Her that you are blaming her for the for the
dolphin pick there, not blaming her for the meltdown though,
well good luck with that one as well. Yeah, I
don't think we can blame anybody outside of him just
being a year old.

Speaker 6 (01:47:00):
About to turn three.

Speaker 9 (01:47:01):
So, you know, next week the broncos a little menacing
on the side of the helmet, you know, will it
have the same you know, visceral reaction. I maybe, but
I can't doubt it. And op to the Titans, I
mean no way. I mean he's taking the Colts one
thousand percent there.

Speaker 6 (01:47:16):
So we'll see how the animals evolve.

Speaker 9 (01:47:19):
Throughout the season because he used to kind of side
with the you know, zoology world when it comes down
to that.

Speaker 1 (01:47:26):
Do we have the dolphins sound effect? Eddie? Here we go?
Are you getting PTSD from the Morning Show with Dyketon
when he derailed me with sound effects?

Speaker 6 (01:47:36):
By the way, Mark Dyton, So Jake Iu is playing
kennesof State tomorrow. Are you familiar with their nickname?

Speaker 1 (01:47:42):
I believe you know what. I know this only because
Todd Byer told me they're the Owls, correct, right?

Speaker 6 (01:47:47):
And Mark and I don't know, Eddie.

Speaker 9 (01:47:49):
If Mark gets to the same sound system that you
have but Mark played what he said was an owl.
I mean this sounded like someone went out in their
backyard and Frank shot an endangered owl. It was one
of the grossest sounding owl.

Speaker 1 (01:48:05):
We don't encourage that. Well, do you remember the bobcat
that he had that we're convinced was actually just a
guy named Bob in his backyard?

Speaker 6 (01:48:13):
That bobcat. I occasionally will wake up at two am with.

Speaker 9 (01:48:17):
That bobcat sound in my head. Yeah, that is literally
the worst. I wouldn't wish that. I'd rather hear nails
on the chalkboard.

Speaker 1 (01:48:23):
So Bob went out and shot an owl, and that's
the sound effect that Nidon came up with.

Speaker 9 (01:48:27):
Okay, very well, I'm like picturing dumb and dumber. Don't
they have like the endangered al?

Speaker 6 (01:48:32):
Correct these auctions?

Speaker 1 (01:48:33):
Yeah, champagne cork.

Speaker 6 (01:48:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:48:36):
Speaking of Indiana, Kevin, did we learn anything in week
one against Old do Menu with Kurse Signette's group or
are we still Are we going to have to wait
two more weeks before we really know where Indiana is?

Speaker 3 (01:48:47):
Yeah?

Speaker 9 (01:48:48):
I think we're gonna have to wait a couple more weeks. Yeah,
I mean they obviously controlled a lot of the game,
and I thought Signetty actually, you know, he went out
of his way to you know, point out the stats
and how different it was.

Speaker 6 (01:48:58):
But I thought there was a lot of living to it.

Speaker 9 (01:49:00):
I do think you can watch for not a minosen
and see him throw it, you know, on Saturday, and Okay,
they're a little bit more accuracy there, a little bit
more timing. I think kennisall State, if I'm not familiar,
I think they kind of hung in there with wake
Forest for a lot of Week one, and ironically they're
starting quarterbacks Dexter Williams, who used to be at IU
had some awful injuries unfortunate when.

Speaker 6 (01:49:21):
He was there.

Speaker 9 (01:49:22):
But yeah, we probably got to wait for that Illinois
game coming up in a couple of weeks.

Speaker 1 (01:49:26):
Am I hearing an owl in the background? Eddie? Is
that what I'm hearing?

Speaker 2 (01:49:29):
I'm trying to find the one that you were talking
about from the morning show. I did find this, Jim.

Speaker 1 (01:49:35):
Oh yeah, that's our peacock, of course.

Speaker 6 (01:49:38):
Yeah, yeah, that's that was Who was it?

Speaker 8 (01:49:41):
Was it?

Speaker 6 (01:49:41):
Saint Peter?

Speaker 1 (01:49:42):
Saint Peters don't and you got the T shirt? Remember
I got struck. It says strut I struck because I'm
cut When I put that on. It was a gun show.

Speaker 6 (01:49:50):
Yeah, did you wear that to your birthday party this week?

Speaker 1 (01:49:53):
You know what my birthday party consisted. Fifty three doesn't
have the same oop as it did at fifty Kevin,
I'm not gonna lie to you. Like fifty three people
are like, oh, wait a minute, was it your birthday? Yeah?
It is okay, great, happy birthday, which is cool, all right,
Kevin Bowen. Again Dolphin's coming Up week number one, and
lastly I saved it for the end, Kevin. But we

(01:50:16):
expect to see what from Daniel Jones and what are
we looking for that will tell us early on that
he is comfortable and that he is embracing or rather
just simply in grasp with what it is that Shane
Stiken wants him to do.

Speaker 9 (01:50:33):
Yeah, I think you're hitting guys in stride, a lot
of underneath stuff, giving guys opportunities after the catch, pretty quick,
quick rhythm. I do think you have to take some
shots down the field. Actually just tweeted out a couple
questions and answers from Shane Styke and on that and
again I might have notre name PTSD from Sunday, but
there's a fine balance in like living in a horizontal

(01:50:53):
passing game of completion, complete and completely got to take
some shots down the field. So I think that's the
balance that you're that you're watching for.

Speaker 1 (01:51:00):
Yeah, the again, I thought, Jones, what are we going here? Now?
That's is that an owl?

Speaker 4 (01:51:09):
Is this?

Speaker 2 (01:51:10):
Is this the sound that Mark had?

Speaker 1 (01:51:11):
Kevin?

Speaker 9 (01:51:14):
That's not no, no, And I'm in the parking garage.

Speaker 6 (01:51:19):
Just lose me by the way.

Speaker 1 (01:51:20):
But now we lost him. You know, owls. I don't
know if you know this or not. Owls can actually
turn their head three hundred and sixty five degrees, three
hundred and sixty degrees, not three and sixty five. That'd
be really something. Three hundred sixty degrees. Did you know that?
An owl? I believe can turn its head all the
way around. Maybe it's one eighty.

Speaker 2 (01:51:38):
Are you talking to me or Kevin? I think Kevin's
still there.

Speaker 1 (01:51:40):
I just know Kevin. Kevin's gone. He just said he's
in the garage. Owls, I believe can thank you, Kevin,
Kevin Bella the Morning show. Kevin's there, Heven's here.

Speaker 9 (01:51:51):
Once I heard Jake Sage three hundred and sixty five degrees,
I figured I couldn't hang up.

Speaker 1 (01:51:56):
It's three hundred sixty? Is it three sixty or one
eighty that an owl can turn his head?

Speaker 9 (01:52:01):
I think it's thirty sixty, right, I mean I assume
you're talking in a full circle here.

Speaker 1 (01:52:05):
I mean that's impressive.

Speaker 9 (01:52:08):
Oh yeah, yeah, but we might need to call your
math dud on it.

Speaker 1 (01:52:11):
But realistically, realistically, you wouldn't need to turn your head
three sixty, right, You only need to turn it one
to eighty.

Speaker 2 (01:52:20):
They cannot turn their heads to.

Speaker 1 (01:52:23):
Seventy. Yeah, that's still pretty impressive.

Speaker 9 (01:52:26):
That's plun That sounds like one of those toys and
toy story at Sid's house, one of the evil kids out.

Speaker 1 (01:52:31):
Did you say you're in our parking garage, Kevin? Yes,
so you're coming back into the building. You couldn't stay away?

Speaker 6 (01:52:38):
Yeah, I know.

Speaker 9 (01:52:38):
I just I wanted to come in and wish your
what'sh your happy birthday, and.

Speaker 1 (01:52:41):
You couldn't come thirty minutes earlier and just do this
in person.

Speaker 9 (01:52:45):
I was leaving the Colts Complex. I was trying to
time it up with the drive. You know, I don't
really have anything to listen to.

Speaker 1 (01:52:51):
I figure, all right, let's I don't have anything to
listen to.

Speaker 2 (01:52:55):
He says, you had a fantastic interview with Jonathan Edwards.

Speaker 1 (01:52:57):
You can Jonathan Edwards was an excellent inner, Kevin. I
encourage you to go back after John's show and listen
to it in podcast for him, he was great.

Speaker 6 (01:53:04):
That was I said this Eddie earlier week. That was
a great idea by you guys.

Speaker 9 (01:53:08):
Have him on because that's all Eddie. A couple of
conflicts with him in the locker room. Seems like a
really good dude and obviously a little bit of a
local connection. And yeah, always always fun to talk about
guys that you know have a hell of a story
frankly and aren't number one or two on the roster.

Speaker 1 (01:53:22):
Listen. I'd love to take credit for it, but it's
like Roy Kent said after they won a game in
ted Lasso, and he said, no, that is all night.
That was all Eddie on that one. That was not
a bad Roy Kent. If you don't mind me saying so, Kevin,
appreciate it. Have a good weekend, all right, Yeah, that
a great weekend, guys, Kevin Bowen joining us on the program.
It's a Friday. What's that oly did you watch ted Lasso? Oh? Yes,

(01:53:45):
that was all night.

Speaker 2 (01:53:47):
I can't repeat his favorite word though.

Speaker 1 (01:53:50):
Oh, I mean, that's what makes him great, Roy Kensel
And I don't know if you know, but apparently the
comedian that plays Roy Kent, he's a writer for the
show and they couldn't find anybody to play Roy King.

Speaker 2 (01:54:00):
And then finally he kind of broke into character and
like whoa wait a minute, yeah again.

Speaker 1 (01:54:05):
Eddie is all geared up in his Jonathan Taylor jersey
and his Colt's hats died. The three Tau come on now.
And for that reason, I'm wearing blue. I just took
it off because there's a sweatshirt and I was warm.
It is for that reason he's wearing the blue. That
means it is a Friday, and it's Friday. It's the
bottom of the two o'clock hour, and you know what
that means. It means it is time for a Franciscan

(01:54:27):
health feel good good for the heart story, and I've
got one coming up. We're gonna remind you about some
heart health as well. We'll do it all next you know,
it's really interesting. You just heard Nick Saban, if you
were listening to that spot, saying that you know, every
second counts preparation, which actually ties in for this segment

(01:54:51):
of our Franciscan health feel Good, good for the Heart
Friday in terms of every second counting and always being prepared.
Let's begin with the preparation part, you know, and I
get it. You're gonna folks are gonna hear me say
this probably every Friday. And I totally understand that eventually
it maybe it feels to you like a broken record.
It feels to me like saying it sometimes. But all

(01:55:17):
of us, I think at times, you know, you ask yourself.
It's like Forrest Gump. I think, didn't he ask his mom?
He says, you know, what's my my purpose?

Speaker 6 (01:55:27):
Mom?

Speaker 1 (01:55:28):
Or what's my fate?

Speaker 6 (01:55:28):
You know?

Speaker 1 (01:55:29):
And she says, You're gonna to figure that out on
your own. I'm a guy that talks sports for three
hours a day, and I know that I'm fortunate to
do that. I don't know really that I have any
skill set, So I don't know what else I could
do for a living. But one of the things that
I learned and just figured out, and maybe it was
the message that was delivered to me, but when I walked,

(01:55:54):
I will never forget. I mean partially because I have
it on video because Shannon videotape that. But when I
I walked out of the hospital in October of twenty
twenty and knew, you know, just kind of how delicately
on the brink things were for me in terms of
my heart. One of the things I knew was if

(01:56:14):
I'm simply by luck in a position where people might
be able to hear me talk, then I need to
make sure that others are not in this situation. And
so I am extremely grateful to this radio station in
Franciscan Health for giving me that opportunity. And what I'm
talking about is preparedness, and that simply in terms of
your heart health. For example, getting a heart scan for

(01:56:36):
just forty nine dollars from Franciscan Health. Forty nine dollars
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As a matter of fact, Jake, you were right. I
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relief of knowing that my score was a zero the
person that related to me, which is fabulous. A heart
scan which can tell and read just like say, the
plaque build up within your heart and give you a

(01:56:58):
heart health risk assessment score. So once you go through
that process, then you get, you know, an idea, a
roadmap of where things stand for you and the things
that you might need to start doing to be preventive
about your health, especially if you are over the age
of forty and have had or battled with obesity or
family heart disease history, which is what I had, you know,

(01:57:21):
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screening bundles. Our story today is one that, truthfully, when
I say a feel good story, it's not always a
feel good when you're talking about people that are dealing
with terminal illness, and you know that can be certainly
a downer. But when I talked about the fact that

(01:58:05):
sometimes life is about preparedness or being aware and living
every second, sometimes that comes even when you are facing
the hardest challenges. That's the case for Doug Smith. Doug
Smith who is battling a terminal illness and is in
hospice care at an organization called Morning Light Home over

(01:58:28):
on the Northeast Side. And one of the things that
the hospice care does is they want to make sure
that they are again preparedness here right, that they are
preparing for folks that are going through a difficult time
to making sure that each and every item that they
have wanted to accomplish or do is checked off while

(01:58:50):
they can still do so. And Doug is one of
those guys. I don't know Doug, but certainly in reading
about him and learning about him, Doug is one of
those guys that just said, you know what, like I
want to also be prepared and live every second. And
part of living every second was being able to seize

(01:59:10):
moments and experienced things that he'd always dreamed of and
thought would be cool and feeling that rush. And I
love this too because we all know Doug Bowles. Everybody
knows Doug Bulls, president at the Indianapolis Motor Speedway, president
of the NTT IndyCar Series, and Doug did not know
Doug Smith, but they shared more in common than just

(01:59:32):
the first name. They share in common. Anybody that knows
Doug Bulls knows this the ability to seize and grab moments.
And so Doug Smith, in his terminal illness, simply held
up a sign on social media that said, live life
as if it's your last lap. And Doug Bowles certainly

(01:59:54):
knows the importance of a last lap. At the Indianapolis
Motor Speedway, you know, j R. Hildebrand was about to
win the Indy five hundred last lap right and denies
victory and Joseph Nugarten last lap makes a past pot
of award. Last lap is pretty important in the Indy
five hundred. It's important in life too, because you want
to make sure. In JR. Hildebrand, that's maybe a bad

(02:00:16):
example because he's a super good dude, but looks at
it and knows the importance of in that moment. You know,
he put himself in a position to come back and
run more races. But Doug wanted to live life as
if it was his last lap. And Doug Bulls saw
it and heard about it and said, what is it
that we want to do and Doug Smith let him know,

(02:00:37):
I have a love of racing. I have a love
of racing. And Doug is a widower, and so too
did his late wife have a love of racing. So
what he wanted to do while he was still from
a health standpoint able to do so with his terminal
illness was simply take a lap around the Indianapolis Motor Speedway.
So Doug Bulls found out about it, Doug Bulls arranged it,

(02:01:00):
and Doug Smith, with Doug Bulls driving, did a lap
in excess of one hundred miles an hour around the
Indianapolis Motor Speedway, and then got out and got down
and kissed the bricks because in that moment, Doug Smith
realized that it wasn't necessarily about at all times like
where you're necessarily going, but rather taking advantage of where

(02:01:22):
you are and squeezing that in. And my motto has
always been squeezed the juice out of life. And I
can appreciate respect and send a tip of the cap.
Not only do Doug Smith for having that zest, for
being able to still pursue and do those things and
live in the moment, but also Doug Bulls for facilitating it,

(02:01:42):
and you never know. And in Doug Bowles case, I
think Doug knows this because I've been around him and
I've seen it firsthand. The ability to make a difference
on even a little thing that maybe you take twenty
thirty minutes out of your day, but that twenty or
thirty minutes that you take out of your day might
be something that somebody else has thought about for twenty
or thirty years and never knew that they would get

(02:02:03):
that chance. And you just never know the impact that
you might have. You never know the impact you might have.
And in every single day when it's just about taking
advantage of every single second, finding the right way to
do it and sharing that and helping others in their
moment of preparedness and their moment of squeezing it in

(02:02:25):
is important. And I commend both thugs, one for fulfilling
someone's dream and the other for having the zest to
pursue theirs. So kudos to both again. Franciscan Health forty
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(02:02:48):
The telephone number. I love something that happened on the
show today that was unexpected. Serendipity one of my favorite words,
and we had a serendipitous moment on this program earlier today,
and I will explain what that was next. So I
mentioned earlier my favorite word serendipity. Now, Eddie, I'm going

(02:03:10):
to put you on the spot, and I think I
would not expect you and I would not expect anybody
to know this, so I'm not saying it too. Do
you know for the most part or do you have
a grasp of the definition of the word serendipity.

Speaker 2 (02:03:26):
Isn't it something that like good fotune happening or something
like that, very yes to it, like just like like
good fortune happening like at a random time or something
kind of.

Speaker 1 (02:03:39):
Basically, by definition, it is the principle or practice of
finding something while looking for something else. So a positive
thing happening while in pursuit of something different. For example,
you long ago thought that you had lost your favorite ring,
and then you're looking for your car keys two years later,

(02:04:02):
and you look underneath a cushion and there is the ring,
and you found it by way of serendipity. So that's
essentially what it is. So a serendipitous moment happened on
this program because and Eddie gets the credit for it.
Jonathan Edwards, who was the only undrafted free agent in

(02:04:24):
this year's class to make the Colts fifty three man
roster at the time that they announced their roster, is
a guy that Eddie had noticed, like, oh, look, you
know he played the majority of his career at Indiana State.
He began at Indiana State and then he went to Tulane,
and so Eddie said, let's get him on just to

(02:04:45):
talk kind of about the fact that he's from Indiana State.
And so we did it with the intention of just
having on a guy to talk about Indiana State and
the fact that that was part of his journey into
the NFL. And by serendipity, what we he found, or
at least what I discovered, because I didn't know it
was just a remarkably fun conversation with a guy who

(02:05:13):
told his journey all the way through of overcoming from
a young age being a high school player that was
not a big time recruit and went to Indiana State
and then once at Indiana State bonded with Kurt Mallory
and appreciated it, but knew that he could test himself
even further and went to Tulane and then kind of

(02:05:33):
was overlooked there in the post college career process and
all of that fueling him into becoming an NFL player.
And had he gone right away out of high school
in Saint Louis and just you know, done, the four
star recruit, number eighty recruit in the country signs with
Missouri or signs with Illinois, I don't know that he's

(02:05:55):
in the NFL. So while going to learn more just
about Indiana State football, by way of serendipity, we learned
more about Jonathan Edwards and that was a win because
he was a really good conversation and I thought was
super cool. Uh, definitely a guy that you want to

(02:06:18):
root for. So that conversation will be up in podcast
form that you can listen to after you listen to
jamb today. All right, real quick, before we get to
John in the Crossover brought to you by Love Keating
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I'm gonna give you the game. You tell me the winner.
Are you ready? I'm ready, Jake hit me. Tampa at Atlanta, Tampa.

(02:06:42):
I think Atlanta wins that game. By the way, uh
cinciat Cleveland, Cincinnati, Miami at Indy, will come back to
that one. Vegas in New England, New England. I'm gonna
go with Vegas on that one. Arizona at New Orleans, Arizona,
Pittsburgh at the JA. That's good. I'll go Pittsburgh, I guess. Okay,

(02:07:06):
the Giants at Washington, Washington, Carolina at Jacksonville, Jacksonville, Tennessee
at Denver, Denver. San Francisco at Seattle, Seattle. Okay, I
think a lot of people are on that because I
think San Francisco is going to be down Detroit at
green Bay. I will go Detroit. Interesting, Okay, I'll go

(02:07:29):
green Bay in that one. Houston at the Rams, Raams,
Baltimore at Buffalo, Baltimore, Minnesota at Chicago.

Speaker 2 (02:07:40):
Give me Minnesota and JJ McCarthy's first start, I'll take it.

Speaker 1 (02:07:44):
Tonight's game.

Speaker 2 (02:07:45):
I'll take Chicago in that Kansas City, Los Angeles.

Speaker 1 (02:07:53):
I'll go Chargers. Don't The Chiefs usually drop their first
game and everybody gets freaks out, I think last year
they won. But I'll go charge Jeron J and B
joins us. He is at you said, Taylor's right, Yeah,
Taylor's Pabinora.

Speaker 2 (02:08:07):
That's a great spot right up there, right near north
Central eighty sixth th Westfield essentially, H JMV joins us
John Man. That's a great location you're in today.

Speaker 10 (02:08:18):
I love this location. Not only are we caddy corner
from your old stomping grounds, but one of the best
goodwill locations right across the parking lot right here.

Speaker 1 (02:08:28):
I'm looking for shopping.

Speaker 10 (02:08:29):
I did, wait, actually Wednesday, I did Eddie Garrison, thank
you very much.

Speaker 3 (02:08:33):
Yet to get some clothes.

Speaker 10 (02:08:35):
That fit feeling goodness is the Budlight Blue Friday with
Dolphins Colt tickets. But fellas, I get a question for you, Yes, sir,
is this Caitlin Clark stuff this season? Has it kind
of felt like the way that everybody was being, for
lack of a better description, strung along during one of those.

Speaker 3 (02:08:52):
Multiple Andrew Luck seasons. Yeah, go through it felt.

Speaker 1 (02:08:57):
Because I think it might would be I think it
might be the bone bruise that's keeping around and not
the groin.

Speaker 10 (02:09:04):
Yeah, just guess what it felt like just kind of
felt like the Andrew luck Sa go all over again.
That's fair weird.

Speaker 3 (02:09:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:09:11):
By the way, right across from where you are, there's
a car wash now at eighty six and Western that
used to be the Steak in Shake where myself, Scott McConnell,
Chris Farcus, Mike Byron Dewey Williams, and Chris Prosser got
a lifetime ban.

Speaker 10 (02:09:25):
Really yeah, so they probably welcome you back now considering
their circumstances.

Speaker 1 (02:09:30):
Maybe if they if they wouldn't have given us a
lifetime ban, they'd still be there, right, no doubt.

Speaker 10 (02:09:35):
Now, maybe you ought to, maybe you ought to go
back to.

Speaker 3 (02:09:37):
That time when things were better for them.

Speaker 1 (02:09:39):
Yeah, yeah, great. The guy said, we have your picture
on surveillance and you're never coming back. And it was
because a lady was smoking a cigarette in the and
this tells you how long ago it was in the
non smoking section and one of the guys that I
mentioned I won't say any names, called her a quote
purple troll and all hell broke clues.

Speaker 10 (02:09:58):
No, man, have you ever been kicked out anything else
any other establishment outside of that?

Speaker 1 (02:10:04):
Well, that's a good question. I'd have to.

Speaker 10 (02:10:05):
Think, Yes, how about you, Eddie. You ever got kicked
out of anything down there on the Southwest.

Speaker 3 (02:10:10):
Side, I have not.

Speaker 1 (02:10:11):
What about you, John?

Speaker 10 (02:10:13):
I got kicked out of Mars nightclub in Bloomington because
I was dared to pour my beer in the tip
jar and chug it.

Speaker 3 (02:10:21):
And I poured it. I poured it.

Speaker 10 (02:10:23):
Now, it was really I should They should have also
whipped my ass too in the process.

Speaker 1 (02:10:27):
By the way, I'll have to send it to you.
I was sent the music video from the music video
that the guy that was the bouncer at the video
salut in Bloomington was then that we talked about yesterday.

Speaker 10 (02:10:41):
Yes, yes, send that to you. By the way, the
tip jar, I swallowed a dime in the process too.
I don't know what a dime was doing in the
tip jar, but I swallowed the dime. I got kicked out.

Speaker 1 (02:10:51):
Somebody was cheap, I guess right, I know, but.

Speaker 3 (02:10:54):
Yeah, it was awful. I should not have done.

Speaker 1 (02:10:56):
That, all right, So who's on the big show today?

Speaker 3 (02:10:59):
We all go to good Charles Rbuckle coming up.

Speaker 10 (02:11:02):
A little bit later on in the show of the
Cults Radio Network former Colts Tied End, we get Bob
Lovell coming up. Don Fisher Voice of the Hoosiers, and
we're giving away Dolphins Colts tickets for what should be
a spectacular weekend. And are you going to bring Noel
Liam back and go to the Colts game on Sunday
with you?

Speaker 3 (02:11:18):
I don't care.

Speaker 1 (02:11:19):
I will be back after the Oasis show. I'm going
to Spawn Ranch tomorrow to find the Manson cable. The
Manson family lived?

Speaker 10 (02:11:25):
Yes, how many of those are still alive? Is Squeaky dead?

Speaker 1 (02:11:30):
No, Squeaky is still alive. She's in Upstate New York,
allegedly Squeaky Now. I believe Leslie van Houghton Patrician karramug.
I think Leslie van Houghton is the one that passed
Patrician Karamigill still live. By the way, The Fights is
the name of the band and the song was I
ain't playing? That's an eighties video from the guy from
the video Saloon.

Speaker 10 (02:11:50):
How about if I play that tomorrow night of a
Chamvi take it?

Speaker 1 (02:11:53):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (02:11:54):
I think I should.

Speaker 10 (02:11:55):
I'm sitting I'm you right now waiting elusively. Are you
and the Jamie takeover tomorrow night?

Speaker 1 (02:12:02):
Yes? So tomorrow I will be at Spawn Ranch checking
out where the Manson family hung out, and then I'm
going to the Rose Bowl to co Oasis, and then
I'll be back for probably the second half of the
Colts Dolphins game coming up on Sunday, tailgate nine thirty
in the morning with a fan at the Slippery Noodle.
And John is out at Taylor's Pub in Nora right now,
and we will throw it out to you, all right, John,
have a good weekend, all right.

Speaker 3 (02:12:22):
You too, buddy, Thanks Jake, Thanks Eddie.

Speaker 1 (02:12:24):
Jmv is up next. Thanks again on a loaded show. Yes, Eddie,
we forgot you said we'd come back to it. Colts
Dolphins predictions, Uh oh, I'm going to tell you right
now the Colts are going to win the game, and
they're going to win it twenty to seventeen. And I
don't even need to do a total deep dish on
that to tell you that the Colts are going to win.

(02:12:45):
But if you do want a deep dish or any
sort of pizza, how about the Family Value Meal Family
Deal at Chicago's Pizza. I'm talking about a medium pizza.
I'm talking about the breadsticks that come with it, all
available at Chicago's Pizza for the price of just thirty
five dollars and you can feed your entire family, And
I mean, you don't want to go out to some

(02:13:05):
lame place. We have a gift card to Chicago's Pizza.
Right now, you've heard me talking, and you'll hear me
talking all week upcoming this week about their family specials.
But right now, caller number three, because I think the
Colts are going to win by three. I said twenty seventeen, Well,
color for it's gonna be twenty one seventeen. Colts are
gonna win twenty one seventeen. Caller four, We will get
you a gift card to Chicago's Pizza seventeen, Central Indiana

(02:13:26):
location Chicago's Pizza dot com. Eddie, your pick for the
game is I.

Speaker 2 (02:13:29):
Went Dolphins twenty six to twenty ed.

Speaker 1 (02:13:32):
He's even wearing all his blue. I was the only
one to pick the Colts last week or one of
those games last year when they won, and people gave
me props for it, and they did. I was the
only one they got it right. Then I was wrong
for the rest of the year. All right, John's up
next to We'll be with you until what six o'clock tonight?
Is that right? James seven o'clock tonight Colt's Happy Hour.

(02:13:53):
John's Up next from Taylor's Pub. Thank you for listening
to Query Company.

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