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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Allow me to ask this question at noon on a
Thursday that still kind of feels like a Wednesday, because
Monday was a day that felt like Sunday. Part two.
Allow me to ask this question. Maybe I'm the only one.
When you go on vacation, is there anything better?

Speaker 2 (00:22):
You know?

Speaker 1 (00:22):
The old line is that no beer is better than
an airport beer, because when you are on vacation and
you get there a little bit early because you're excited
and the bag's been checked and everything else, and say
you're like, you know what, We'll sit right here near
the gate at this bar and have a beer to
start the vacation. And when you are on day one

(00:43):
of the vacation, your mind is completely clear and void
of things. For example, Eddie, you are getting ready, if
I'm not mistaken, Eddie Garrison, you are getting ready in
October to take a vacation. Correct, That is correct? Yes,
So when you are getting ready for that vacation, whether
you're driving or fly, it's kind of irrelevant that very

(01:04):
first day, isn't it Almost a surreal feeling of knowing
and almost retraining your brain to know that for the
next four to five to six to seven days, whatever
it might be that you don't have wake up calls,
you don't have responsibilities from eight until five, you don't
have a set time that you're gonna eat dinner because

(01:27):
it's vacation and it's just everything You're like, man, it's
just like spontaneous, right, and everything just feels different on
day one because you are overcome with this optimism and
excitement and the awareness of the open space in front
of you. And that's the best day of vacation. And

(01:49):
that's why, like, the airport beer is the best beer
because you know, you know what, if I want to
have a beer at three in the afternoon next Tuesday,
I'm gonna have a beer at three in the afternoon
because I'm on vacation. I can. Honesty is, I've never
had a beer and at the airport. Well, if you do,
I can tell you that an airport beer is the
best beer. Okay, if you're flying on vacation, just trust

(02:11):
me on this or work with me. So that's what
today is in the National Football League. This is the
day where everybody in the league is basically sitting there
at the gate where you're like, all I know is
now in the form of the NFL it's you're going

(02:33):
back to work. But as a fan, as a fan
of an NFL team, literally, it's like I'm putting all
notifications on silent because now is the time where I'm
going to see it on the field, and all of
the worrying about in the scrutinizing and training camp of

(02:54):
whether or not this receiver or this tight end or
this running back or this quarterback or this cornerback or
this safety or linebacker or this edge rusher, all of that.
Now I can just simply see it on the field.
And I am sitting here looking at it, saying to myself,
my team this year, this is the year. It all
starts now. And yes, you Colts fans, I understand it.

(03:19):
You have a little bit of uncertainty at the quarterback position.
You're not overly sold on Daniel Jones. You're like, I'm
super excited because I'm sitting at the gate and I'm
going on vacation. But I just reminded myself that I'm
actually getting ready to fly to Tulsa. Not that there's
anything wrong with Tulsa, but You're like, but I thought
I was going to be vacationing in Scottsdale. But I'm

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in Tulsa, but you're still on vacation. I understand that
you worry about you have Ady Mitchell and Alec Pierce,
two wide receivers that you are excited about, because Alec
Pierce has shown now and I think took a step
towards the end of last year to wet the whistle

(04:02):
for you about this coming season and get you excited
for it. And then you're like, but wait a minute,
I forget who it is that's going to be who's
actually going to be delivering him the long ball? Can
Daniel Jones get the ball to where Alec Pierce needs
it if he gets behind a defense? And so does
that temper a little bit? Because I looked at the
forecast and it looks like it might be kind of

(04:22):
cloudy on Wednesday of my vacation. And then Adie Mitchell
is one that of course you are waiting to see
whether or not he shows up at all, but you
are still enticed a little bit. Tyler Warren is a
guy that I think that we that is an exciting
piece because of what he can do and what he
can bring to this offense and how he can open

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things up and soften the defense to then get Jonathan
Taylor un corked. There are elements and aspects of this
Colts offense, this particular Colts team, this roster, there are
elements about it that I think are pretty good. And
I do think they have a good roster. And we
talked about Verde ram and he said, you know what,
I like the roster. And we talked to Charles Davis

(05:05):
and he said, you know what, I like their roster.
And we've talked to Steven Holder and he says, you know,
the roster's good. And I know that it is a
popular sentiment, and this year is a big year for
Chris Ballard, but it is you know, going back in
saying sixty two, sixty nine to one, no divisional title
in since every other team in the league has won

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it twice, and et cetera. And it is a common
theme to point out and or overly decipher and scrutinize
and talk about the deficiencies of Chris Ballard in terms
of statistics. But I think we can safely say this
might be in the last handful of years, certainly the

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most complete roster that he's put out there. And he
does get credit for the areas that we were banging
the drum about that they needed to address. I think,
and we're going to find out proofs in the pudding,
but I think we're going to find out that he
has has done a good job of shoring up those areas.
You know, the offensive line depth, that is something that
he has talked about a lot. That offensive line depth

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has already been tested and already is having to go
into it, into the trenches, to go deep into that reserve.
The corners are one that a year ago he said, look,
I need to see these guys play and evaluate it,
and apparently he did and then decided that they needed
to upgrade it. And I'm a little concerned about the

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fact that they have two guys that are within their
corner rotation that didn't even show up in Westfield on
day one and have been added since then. But nonetheless
they have experience in their defensive backfield linebacker. Okay, but
you got a new defensive scheme and do you really
need are we in an era still where you need
Mike Singletary and Dick Bukus and Lawrence Taylor lining up

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at your line at Well, Lawrence Taylor'd be great, don't
get me wrong, but you get what I'm saying, right.
He was kind of more an edge guy. So it
is here. The NFL season is upon us, and it
is Hope Springs eternal, if you will, even though that's
a baseball term, clean slate for everybody. And it gets
underway tonight Dallas in Philadelphia to kick us off, because
here is the thing, and thank goodness that it's Dallas

(07:17):
in Philadelphia in September, because and I've mentioned this before,
the NFC East. It seems like every time you turn
on your television for a nationally televised National Football League game,
it's a matchup of the NFC East. And when it's
a matchup of the NFC East, typically that means that

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it is Philadelphia and Washington, or Washington and Dallas, or
Dallas and the New York Giants, the New York Giants
and Philadelphia. And every single time you have about a
three week window to watch the those games where you're
not clinically depressed, because every other time you watch the

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NFC East, it's a four o'clock game and you turn
it on and they're in the meadowlands and it's like
the one in five Giants and the two and four commanders,
and it's forty five degrees missing in rain, and everybody
is sitting there in this misery of cold, gray weather
and ugh. That's usually the NFC East. So if we're

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gonna get the NFC East primetime matchups forced upon us,
we might as well do it in September when the
weather is good and it's beautiful outside today, by the way,
it's absolutely beautiful. A good afternoon to you. My name
is Jake Quarry Eddie Garrison. The other voice you just
heard it is Quarrying Company here on ninety three five
and one oh seven five the fan. The name of
the program is Quarrying Company. We thank you for being

(08:47):
in the company. Last night I was at dinner and
gentlemen at the table next to me he said, I'm
in the company, and I said, well, that's wonderful you
and my mom, because my mom was sitting right there,
and I said, my mom's in the company as well.
But I appreciate those that come up to say hello.
We got a big show lined up today. We will
talk a lot about the Colts and the NFL as

(09:08):
as a matter of fact, their opponent for the Dolphins.
We're going to take a road trip, are we not, Eddie. Yeah,
it's our first Thursday road trip of the year. Chris
Perkins who joined us during our company camp caravan. It
covers the dolphins for the South Florida Sentinel. I think
that's right. Maybe the South Florida Sun Sentinel, but either way,
he joins Ust one thirty. Matt Taylor joins us at

(09:28):
two o'clock, and Jake with your your deep rolodexic connections.
Hopefully will Power joins us at one o'clock. So will
Power is obviously the key domino within the IndyCar Silly
season and one that's been around for a very long time.
And the news that he is now going to Andretti Global,
And so yesterday when I said to will Power, hey

(09:49):
can you come on the show? And will Power said,
no problem, I'm going to be karting. I assume that
means he's going to be a go car track. I'm
going to be karting throughout the course of the day.
So just remind me so that I can step out
and be able to hop on the phone and join
your show. So that is scheduled to be at one o'clock.
We'll see, right, I love willpower though. Good dude, last

(10:09):
night the power Ball. I'm fascinated by this heady. I
have a theory. Are you ready for my theory? Yes,
I have a mathematical theory in it. I guess you
could correlate this into the NFL in general. Okay, and
the fact that it's the opening week and everybody is
trying to put themselves in position to you know, statistically

(10:36):
get into the wild card get you know, everybody has
a different expectation and a different ceiling this year. For example,
I think if you were doing sports talk radio in
Kansas City, if you're in sports talk radio in Buffalo,
if you're doing sports talk radio in Philadelphia, you have
different expectation and floor and ceiling for this year. And

(10:58):
if you are a Chiefs prognosticator going into the year,
you're saying, like, look, anything less than anything less than
thirteen wins is a disappointment. I mean, if the Chiefs
go twelve and five, people are gonna be like, what
is going on with the Chiefs. If the Bills go
eleven and six, people are gonna be what's going on

(11:20):
with the Bills? Different expectations than in Cleveland or Arizona
or Charlotte, right different expect Hey, if they can win
five games and show progress, we're happy. That's the thought
going in with those teams. But you were just trying
to put yourself in position to get into the postseason.

(11:42):
If you are a middle packed like Indianapolis. I think
the Colts people would be thrilled if the Colts by
November December are in contention, still within the division or
the wildcard, which in this division may well be a possibility.
But you get to the point where you're like, I
just want to crack at the wheel. I want to
You got to win the games like, for example, Eras

(12:03):
or excuse me, Denver and Miami for the first two
games opposite order. For the Colts, you've got to win
those two because you're looking at the numerology of what
your record's going to be and trying to get into
the postseason. And one would think those are two teams
in Miami and Denver that are going to be right
in that log jam with the Colts for a postseason.

Speaker 3 (12:24):
Bit.

Speaker 1 (12:25):
I thought about this with the power ball last night. Now, Eddie,
you did not buy a powerball ticket, correct, No, I
went to the grocery store or not the grocery store. Geez,
the gas station was night. It was a night the
fever played. So was that Tuesday? It was Tuesday night,
a Tuesday that felt like a Monday. Yeah, that's exactly
why I was confused on what night it was. I
was going in there for just to get a dr pepper,

(12:46):
you know, to get me some caffeine to get me
through the night. And the guy in front of me
buys not one, not two, not three, not four, not five,
fifty power ball tickets. I'm like, what in the world. Okay,
I have a theory on this. So then he goes
to his car. I didn't tell you this part, Jack,
I texted you this. He comes back. He goes, yeah,

(13:08):
I'll do twenty. Who's your lottery and I'll do twenty
that make a million two. I'm like, what in the world.
I was like, if you win one of these, do
I get Do I get part of this? Because I
was here to witness it. He goes sure, or for waiting? Yeah,
you know, if you go to a convenience store and
you're behind the guy that has the little plastic sleeve
organizer of his lottery tickets, you know that you are
you might as well pack a lunch because that guy's

(13:31):
I mean. And additionally you should give him the one
eight hundred and nine with it number. But I have
a theory here that I thought about. Now hear me
out on this. Okay, all right? The power ball is
an amazing thing because it is now. You know, it
was one point three billion and it's now one point
seven billion, and that'll go up a little bit, I

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would imagine, because there will be this flurry of people
to go buy tickets. But if you really think about it,
how many people live in the United States? Is it
four hundred million? Sure, three hundred and eighty five million
on in a guess, but it's probably a little b
higher than I'm going to say four hundred million. And
I don't need people sending me the comments are you're
talking legally early? Okay, three hundred and forty million, three

(14:12):
hundred forty two million. Okay, say three hundred fifty million
to play it safe. Okay. So if three hundred and
fifty million people live in the United States and not
all of them are eighteen, so of that three hundred
and fifty million, like two hundred million of which are
well probably more than that three hundred million of which
are eligible to buy a powerball ticket. And if it's
that much money, and it went up, say four hundred

(14:35):
and fifty, that that means that four hundred and fifty
million tickets were sold. So that means that probably two
hundred million people bought one, maybe one hundred one in
every three people in the United States had a ticket yesterday.
And yet the winning combination still was one that had
not been selected. That shows you how astronomical the odds are.
But Eddie, here is my thought on how you if

(14:55):
you are the Indianapolis Colts of powerball players, here's how
you cataput yourself into super Bowl status. Here's how you
play chess while everybody else is playing checkers. And I
had this epiphany like a week ago, and then I thought,
maybe I need to play this smart and not share it.
But I'm a caring guy. I'm a sharing guy, and

(15:16):
I'm going to give my little tip to the world.
Here are you ready, I'm ready, Jake, lay it on me.
Let's just say, give me five numbers, Eddie, off top
of your head, just give me one through fifty eight.
Give me five numbers, fifty four, yep, thirty seven, twelve, yep,
and eleven. Okay, at five numbers, you've got one more

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to go here, three and give me a number one
through fifty eight. Now boom forty forty. So let's say
you pick those numbers. Those are your winning numbers right there.
Now a lot of people go and they buy a
power ball ticket. Now hear me out here, people are saying,
this is a sports talk radio show. Why is this
guy's talking about the power ball. I'll tell you why.
Because my brain works differently sometimes and I think I'm
out of my mind and I think I'm crazy, and

(15:57):
then I start crunching down and I go, you know what,
I think. I Actually I might have figured out and
cracked the code. I might to crack the code that
got the Indianapolis Colts, for example, because they're trying to
crack the code. They're trying to crack the code from
being a seven to nine team, or seven to ten team,
I should say, to a ten and seven team. Everybody's
trying to crack the code this time of year. And
we're going to get into plenty of that over the
course of today, including with Chris Perkins on how Miami's

(16:19):
trying to crack the code the numbers. But here's the deal.
Look at the college football playoff. They wanted more interest,
they wanted more they wanted more teams to feel involved,
so they expanded from four to twelve teams. They've done
this in you know, Major League Baseball. They started working
in They want more teams to have a chance and

(16:41):
feel numerically statistically like they've got a shot later in
the year. So they came up with the wild card
play in game and those sorts of things. So now
all of a sudden, you get five teams instead of
two that are eligible in late September. So those numbers
that you gave me, Eddie, now hear me out. Hearing
you out. If you're gonna go and you're gonna spend
ten dollars on the power ball, okay, that would buy

(17:03):
you five tickets. By the way, instead of going and
saying I want five quick draw purchases and getting five
different combinations, you're better off using the same five numbers
and buying five tickets with the same five numbers on it.
Explain how that is makes sense? Please? You are by

(17:31):
going with more tickets, you are changing your odds of
actually hitting the power ball in an infantile I mean
one one hundred thousandth of a percentage. Okay, But if
you come up with the winning combination, let's say fifty
four to thirty seven to twelve eleven three is the

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winning combo with a powerball of forty your numbers, Eddie Garrison. Okay, Okay.
Now let's just say that a computer randomly spit that
out to a guy in Pokatella, Idaho as well. Oh,
you could have picked anywhere, and you picked Pokatella, Idaho.
So now you have two because this happens where you
hear that the grand prize was split amongst two or
eight people or whatever. Two tickets were sold. There were

(18:15):
two tickets sold with the winning numbers. Okay. If the
prize is let's say eight hundred million dollars after taxes
and everything else, and there are two winners, you each
get four hundred million, right, Okay. But if you have
used that number commindation to buy yourself five tickets, there

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are now six winning tickets, of which you own five
of them. So if each person is to get sixteen
point six percent, that guy in Pokatella now instead of
fifty percent, now is getting sixteen point six percent the
prize and you are getting eighty four point four percent.
You just increased your winnings. Yeah, but it's also way

(18:58):
more risky. More risky because you're using the five same numbers. Okay,
you're only giving yourself one chance of winning, Versus if
you've got five different combinations, you have five winning are one.
Your chances go from one in three hundred and twenty
eight million, nine hundred and sixty five thousand, two hundred
and thirty seven to one in three hundred and eighty

(19:19):
five million, nine hundred and sixty seven thousand, two hundred
and forty or two hundred and thirty two or whatever
you are not. The percentage odds you increase yourself with
five different number combinations is offset by the fact that
you're winning. You are giving yourself a better percentage of
a larger slice of the pie. I'm just telling you

(19:39):
right now, there are people listening to my voice that
are like, I tuned in to hear about the Colts,
and I tuned into here and I'm and I'm mind blowing.
This guy's a genius. That's what they're saying to themselves.
This guy's a gen I think I don't think they're
saying that you want to bet. No, there are people
that are saying right now, I guarantee you you know what,
I'd never thought of it that way, But you are
in show yourself that if your number hits you get

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a you are guaranteeing a larger slice of the pie
in the event that somebody else also has the same combo. Yeah,
your pie, Your slice of the pie in terms of
your winnings may be bigger, Jake, but your margin of
error is infinitely smaller. If you're using the same five numbers.
You're if you have five tickets and use the same

(20:24):
five numbers, right your your slice of the pie is bigger.
But Eddie, what I'm saying to you is the odds
are so ridiculously insane. I'll put it to you this way.
Every single person in the United States is lined up
and they're gonna pick. They're gonna say they're gonna pick
a winner. Would you rather say, Okay, I want like

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the chance to get denied three times, or or if
you win, it is guaranteed that you're going to get
a larger percentage. I mean, that's that's basical what it
comes down to. So let me ask you this jake
to kind of you know, make it in and then
we'll get back in and talk to sports to link
it back to sports. Every year you do, you know

(21:08):
that as soon as the previous season ends, you make
futures bets on the Super Bowl? Right, you put like
a dollar two dollar like you for instance, you put
a dollar two dollars down on random teams doing the
Super Bowl and you have like you know, five eight
times or whatever. Right, Why would you do that when
you can put multiple bets on the same team because
this is the same thing. Good question. It's not because

(21:30):
the winning, Because the winnings are dependent you are the payout.
In terms of the way that you say it, it
has to do with again, if you had eight hundred million, okay,
would you rather if you hit if you hit an
eight hundred million dollar winner and you don't know if

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there's another winner out there, and there's the possibility that
there is, would you rather have the guarantee that the
maximum now that your ticket is worth is four hundred million,
or the maximum that your ticket is worth is seven
hundred and ten million. At that point jkllion seven hundred million,

(22:13):
I'd rather have more chances at winning the four hundred
million than you know, one chance at the seven hundred million.
This from aj you are a genius. I agree. I'm
a numbers guy, but I never looked at the power
ball that way. You are brilliant. See I told you.
I told you Jakie's a genius but also an idiot.

(22:39):
Here's the thing, Okay, I read an article from a
mathematician who said, unless you buy ten percent of all
the tickets, your chances of winning does not go up.
If you buy more than one. Exactly, I'm not talking
about increasing your chances of percentage of winning. I'm talking
about I'm not talking about increasing your chances of winning.
I'm talking about increasing the pot if you do win. Yeah,
you increase the pot if you win. If you win

(23:01):
and you're if those numbers, if you're the only person
that purchased those numbers, then good. You get a one
hundred percent guaranteed. But if somebody else has bought a ticket,
you now have shaved their percentage from fifty percent to
ten percent, and you get the rest or tan depending
on how many tickets you buy. With that combination. That's
all I'm saying. How does Jake sleep at night with
his mind wandering like? This is what somebody texted under

(23:23):
the listen it's not easy. And then somebody else said
that we needed to I think it was Gary that
says we need somebody needs to go into a statistics class.
I taxed my brother. He's taking his stat class right now.

Speaker 4 (23:34):
No no, no, no no no no no no no.

Speaker 1 (23:36):
Everybody needs to listen to what I'm saying. See, people
don't listen to what I'm saying. I'm going to be
Chris Ballard here.

Speaker 3 (23:40):
I mean.

Speaker 1 (23:41):
See, that's the thing, Like, you're not listening to what
I'm saying. I'm not talking about your chances of actually
the combination winning. Your chance is with if you buy
if you buy fifty tickets or you buy five hundred tickets,
your chances are still astronomically slim of winn. What I'm
saying is I hate to break your heart, Jake. I

(24:02):
just looked this up. You cannot win the Power Bawl
with the same multiple tickets. You can't have the same
number on multiple tickets. Why not? That's the Power Bowl rules.
I would disagree. Ticket must have a unique set of numbers.
You can play multiple draws. Well, that's each ticket has

(24:25):
to be separate. Yeah, you would have to buy them
on separate tickets. Correct, You would have to go in
you do the scratch off right where you fill it.
You know, they have a little thing where you fill
them out. But you can't choose the same number. Yes,
you can, just with the rule state. Okay. What I'm
saying to what it is saying is on the same ticket,
you can't. But Eddie, you can go to village pantry

(24:47):
and buy a ticket with your numbers there and then
go across the street to seven to eleven and buy
your ticket with those same numbers. And you do only
get one winning ticket. It doesn't take both. And power
ball only would take one, not both. But okay, that's
where then you give it to your mom, and then
you give one to your dad, and you give one
to your sister. What I'm saying to you is because

(25:08):
there are there are power balls where most you know
you see it, where like the seven people like you know,
here's a guy, here's a waitress from des Moines and
an insurance salesman from DeLand, and they both won the
power ball they want. They both had the winning combination
that that is pot and so therefore you you increase
the pot that you the percentage that you'd get. That's

(25:30):
all I'm saying. When we come back, there was a
conversation that took place, not about the powerball numbers, but
is it a powerball grab? What are the statistic odds
that in fact there is now trust between the agent
of Anthony Richardson and Anthony richards Richardson himself remember and
the Colts, I should say, because remember Anthony Richardson's agent

(25:51):
said that there was a decreased trust between his client
and the Colts organization. But there was a conversation that
had did they hash it out and what does it mean?
And are we grasping at powerball numbers on the possibility
of this all having a happy ending. I will explain

(26:11):
that and let you know what they said next. So
Anthony Richardson was drafted number four by the Colts. Stop
me if you've heard that before. You know the history.
And then this year when they brought in quarterbacking competition

(26:35):
with Daniel Jones, and like I said, and I'm going
to stick by this and I will die on this hill,
that when they brought in Daniel Jones for the quarterbacking competition.
Shane Steiken was looking for growth in from Richardson, having

(26:55):
nothing to do with the velocity of the football or
the way that he is hitting targets in the intermediary
or in the flat, or the way it Shane Stiken
brought in Daniel Jones and Chris Ballard brought in Daniel
Jones and hoping that and hoping that it would increase
quarterbacking awareness of Anthony Richardson. And by quarterbacking awareness, I

(27:20):
just mean reading the room. I want to make clear
again as I say each and every time, and do
I need to say this each and every time, Yes,
because there's the possibility that each and every time there's
somebody listening who did not hear it in the prior.
I don't know Anthony Richardson on a personal level. I
have no personal opinion of him other than in other words,

(27:44):
I have no opinion of him about his personality, other
than the understanding and assumption that he is a nice
young guy who has never done It's not like he
has done some horrifically you know, immature or irresponsible things
in terms of his conduct, his approach, any of those things.

(28:07):
I have no reason to believe any of that about him.
I think he is a young quarterback who was incredibly
gifted physically, with his body size, his arm strength, his speed,
all of those things, and the combination of not having
the same resources as a lot of quarterbacks at a

(28:28):
young age and not having to necessarily go through the
rigors of building a quarterback because he was naturally built
that way. Those things caused him to be an incredibly
naive young quarterback. I don't mean naive in the fact
that like he assumed that everything was handed to him.

(28:51):
I mean naive in terms of understanding how to read
a defense, Naive in terms of understanding how to anticipate
the reactions or timing of teammates in the huddle. You know,
all of those things. And I think the Colts were
waiting for all of that to develop, for that maturity,
for the adolescence to take place. They were waiting for

(29:14):
the no longer having like the pimples that a quarterback has,
and having you know, the clearer skin, and not having
to wear the head gear anymore because his teeth were
finally straight, all the awkward things you go through as
a teenager. The Colts were waiting for him to go
through that as a quarterback. And it didn't happen in

(29:35):
the time, not necessarily completely the fault of Anthony Richardson.
He got hurt. There were a number of things in play,
and it didn't happen in the timing that they were
hoping for. And so Daniel Jones is your starter. And
when that took place, when they announced Daniel Jones, then
his agent, who I think there's a little bit of
naivete here as well. His agent, and I believe it's

(29:55):
pronounced Derek de ri c Derek Jackson, who deals with
and represents a lot of players in predominantly the floor
from the Florida area. He came out and and said, hey, listen.
You know, in a in an interview with Steven Holder,

(30:18):
he came out saying that they were questioning the trust
that Anthony Richardson and that he as the agent, could
have in the Colts, and that that was potentially a
fractured relationship because of the fact that Richardson was kind
of told and groomed for one thing and then all
of a sudden they brought somebody else in and boom,

(30:39):
he loses the starting job. So with all of that said,
Jeremy Fowler of ESPN has an article today where he
says that Ballard's agent in fact met with Chris Ballard
to clear the air. Richardson's agent met with Chris. What
did I say? I'm sorry? Ballard's agent sorry, Anthony Richardson's
agent met with Chris Ballard to clear the air. And

(31:00):
the Accent called the meeting quote very constructive and said
it was a chance for them to quote let feelings
be known. Now, this is what's interesting. Though a trade
was not requested, the topic was broached in the meeting.
Ballard reinforced that the Colts have no plans to trade

(31:21):
Richardson and that they still believe in the quarterback. It
does go on, Fowler says to say that Richardson is
not making any sort of you know, he's not being
a distraction at all. He's being professional. He's doing the
things that he needs to do is to back up
quarterback and he himself, and this is true. Richardson himself

(31:42):
has come out and said that he knew that he
needed to be more mature, he needed to be a
better leader. He has said those things that he needed
to grow in certain areas the helmet tap was one
that was clearly a tipping point Shane Steichen when he
took himself out of the game and said, you know,
I was just tired. I gotta admit it. But what's

(32:07):
interesting is his agent then reinforced in this conversation apparently
that they don't think that the end chapter has been
written because Richardson still has a chance to play this season. Situationally,
if things come up, and by all accounts, statistically speaking,
backup quarterbacks in the NFL do get plenty of opportunity

(32:29):
to get into a game, especially with somebody like Daniel Jones,
you know who knows what takes place in that right.
His ad that all parties are aware that they need
more patients when Richardson from the time that Richardson was drafted,
and that patience that they preached they didn't necessarily give

(32:50):
to him, or that he hasn't had the proper time
to develop based on the timeline. That was an understanding
when he came in, and I think actually the agent
is correct in that. But when the agent said, and
I'm going to go back to what I said at
the time when Derek Jackson came out and said, we
have a hard time now trusting the Colts because they
selected Daniel Jones when Richardson was doing the things they

(33:14):
asked him to do in the off season. The problem
is that they and I said it. Then the problem
all began because the Colts trusted Richardson too much too early.
They handed it in the m keys before he was
ready for it, and they determined him the starter a
month into the deal. And so they were saying to him,
we trust you, we trust you're going to grow on

(33:36):
the job, we trust you're going to learn on the job.
We trust it. Even though we're giving you the keys
to the kingdom, you are still going to learn your
way into the position. And then once Richardson didn't do
that and the timing that they liked, they took the
keys back. And so Derek Jackson is saying, well, we

(33:57):
can't trust them now. But the problem is that trusted
him too much too early, and there has to be
a happy medium there where now they can't come out
and say we can't trust you. It also, Daniel Jones
is our guy. There has to be a balance there,
and maybe this conversation helps ease that balance, helps find
that happy range, helps finds that medium between the two,

(34:20):
and sometimes conversations like that are a good thing. But
in this situation, I still believe, and I may be
totally wrong in this, but I still believe that the Colts,
deep down, if you put truth serum in them, they're
saying all the right things, they're doing all the right things,

(34:41):
they're presenting all the right things. But I think deep
down they believe that Richardson is not the long term guy,
or else they would there is zero reason. They're the
only reason that Anthony Richardson is not starting on Sunday
against the Miami Dolphins. The only reason you would not
start him is because you just don't believe it's going

(35:03):
to be there. Otherwise you would if you thought there
was an inkling of a chance that he's going to
be the guy, you would start him. But they can't
come out and say that because if in fact, and
I know the Colts, and I'm probably maybe I'll be
proven totally wrong in this. Maybe I'll be proven totally
wrong in this. But when the Colts come out and
say we have no interest in trading Anthony Richardson, of

(35:24):
course they're gonna say that. Of course they're gonna say
that because if they in fact are if Daniel Jones
shows any competence oncesoever and has a Sam Darnold type year,
even if that doesn't mean that Jones is their long
term guy, and they know that they've got to proceed

(35:44):
with caution there. But if Daniel Jones has a year
where he's going to be playing the majority of snaps
over the course of the season, now you've stunted even
further Anthony Richardson getting that necessary seat time. And I
know he's a young guy, but he needs reps, and
if you're not giving him those reps, you have to
then present it as we're not giving him the reps

(36:06):
because we're keeping him under bubble wrap, because we're telling
when we unleash this guy, I mean, Katie bar the door. No,
in reality, they're doing that, and they can't come out
and say we're kind of done with this dude, because
then if you do want to move on from him,
if you do find yourself in a position where it's
in your best interest to move on from him, you
have to have some value out out of him. You

(36:29):
can't if you know that your neighbor has a car
that he's been working on in the garage and you
see him out there working on it every single day,
but he never drives it. And then finally one day
there's a for sale sign on it. You're like, this
guy's looking to get rid of this car. I'm going
to make a hell of an offer here on my behalf.
But if you see him and occasionally driving it around
and he looks happy, and you're like, you know what,
I probably I'm going have to offer him a little

(36:51):
more money because I like that car. But that's the
situation they're in. I'm glad they talked it out. I'm
glad they to that happy median that will allow because
you don't want We've seen it in this town in
the past. Been a long time since this has happened,
but we've seen it where the starting quarterback and the
starting franchise quarterback and then the backup quarterback where there's

(37:15):
a friction and a tension between them. It does not
go well. It does not end well, and you have
to make you know, you've got all parties got to
come together and say and I commend them for saying.
Richardson so far has been the adult in the room
that's good. I mean, you know what I mean. That's
a good thing. But I'm glad they talked it out.

(37:35):
But we'll see what comes from it. Let's put it
that way. Are you still confused by my lottery thing.
I was never confused. Okay, fair enough. We'll see if
will Power by the way breaks away from his carting
to join us coming up here at just about one
o'clock later on the program. I am curious. The Dolphins

(37:57):
are an intriguing openings because they're one of those teams
that I always think are a good benchmark. But I
think there might be some big time turmoil going on
in Miami that is good news for Indianapolis to start
the year off. This might be lining up for the
Colts favorably as they work their way into the water

(38:23):
here of the NFL season. The water might be a
little warmer in the beginning than when you first jump
in and it's ice cold and there's a shock to
your system. They might be getting in Miami an opportunity
to snap that skid of eleven straight seasons without an
opening win. But we will find out coming up bottom
of the one o'clock hour, we'll go down to Miami
and we will talk to a beatriter for the Dolphins

(38:43):
about some of the challenges they might have or challenges
they might present for Indianapolis Eddie Tonight's game between the
Cowboys and the Eagles. Correct, that is accurate. Yes, your
level of excitement for this game on a one to ten,
ten being the most one being the least ten. Really well,
I'm just got the NFL's back, and I get it

(39:08):
the Eagles, you know, I totally get it, and I
get the rivalry as well between the Cowboys and Eagles.
But if I could be the old man yelling at
clouds here, can I just simply say this, when are
we going to quit doing this about Dallas doing what
every year? When don't we get to pick? Okay, when
are we going to quit pretending that Dallas is a

(39:28):
premier competitive franchise? Great question. I get that the Cowboys
are America's team. I totally get it. And if you
go down there, there's something about them. It is interesting.
There's something about the Cowboys. I don't think they're America's
team anymore, Jake, I do. Who would you say it is?
Who is the It's great, there's a weird caveat here,

(39:53):
But who would you say, who is America's team? Kansas City? No,
totally disagree. I mean, sure, they're of the last eight years,
they've had the best run, and they've got the most
exciting player, and they have Taylor Swift fair. Okay, that's fair,

(40:17):
that's a good point. But I don't think that how
many people do you know that? And maybe people with
kids would disagree with me here, But do you think
there are a lot of young kids that have now
become like huge Chiefs fans? Yes? So you think Kansas

(40:41):
City is when you say they're America's team, you think
in ten years after Patrick Mahomes retires that they're America's team.
To me, means means beyond an era. Like you could
say the Patriots were America's team when Brady was there
because they were winning Super Bowls and they were. But
how many people loved the Patriots. I don't know how
many people love the Chiefs. I think the Chiefs to me,

(41:03):
the Kansas City Chiefs are the Golden State Warriors of
the NFL. They had when they first broke through. They
were so transcendently different in their high flying style and
their unpredictability and the wow factor of their plays that
they were must see TV. But then there was this

(41:26):
fatigue factor where the things that people loved about Patrick Mahomes,
the kind of lase fair, the mouthpiece hanging out, you know,
those things, the things that people loved about them, Eventually
there is a fatigue factor where people are like, I'm
just so tired of this guy. And it happened a
little bit with Steph Curry. Now Curry has come back
the other way and is back to being, but don't
forget there was a brief window there with Steph Curry

(41:49):
where the shoulder shimmy and the mouthpiece out and the
things like that. People got kind of fatigued over it.
Kids loved the guy. I get it, and he's a
very good role model. And then when he did the
sleep in the Olympics and that sort of thing that
put them, that put him back where he's a beloved
figure again. But there was a fatigue factor that settled
in for certain, And I think that we're in the

(42:10):
fatigue aspect of the Chiefs. The Taylor Swift thing is
a very good point by you, But I don't think
they're America's team, because America's team means generationally one that
if you Eddie were I'll put it to you this way,
This is the best way of saying it. If you
were awarded a franchise for lids or hat World or

(42:31):
whatever it's called. Okay, and you know what, I'll take
that out of it. We're gonna call it. We're not
gonna bring them in since you know, they're an actual, legitimate,
established business. So we're just gonna call it, you know,
Eddie's Hats. Okay. So you're you have a franchise called

(42:52):
Eddie's Hats, and you're gonna be able to sell hats,
you know, and you've got to open it up and
give me a city in Middle Earth America that does
not have any professionals, any pro sports at all. Tulsa Okay. Okay,
Well I'm gonna say Tulsa is a bad example because
it's close to Dallas. We'll go Toketel. I was gonna say, Pocatelo,
pokatela Idaho. Okay. So you've got to open Eddie's Hats
in Pocatella, and you get to pick three NFL teams

(43:15):
to stock their hats, only three for and you get
to redo this in twenty years. You get to pick
three teams, and you're gonna be able to sell those
three franchises for twenty years. You cannot reorder for another
twenty years. You have to pick three franchises that are
gonna make you the most money. Putting your personal bias aside,

(43:36):
you're rooting interests aside of whatever else. Give me the
three teams that you believe will make you the most money. Okay,
I gotta think hard here. Another show ins at three.
I still believe Kansas City would be one. I think um,

(44:00):
Dan Bay Packers, Pittsburgh steel Is, Dallas Cowboys. Yeah right, okay,
I'll give you the Packers. Yeah, okay, Green Bay, Kansas
City shows over at three. Give me another one. It's
the Dallas Cowboys. It just is. I don't it's the
Dallas Cowboys because of the star logo, because of the
blue and silver, because of the cheerleaders, the reality show

(44:20):
about the cheerleaders, all of it. It's the Dallas Cowboys.
The Green Bay Packers have a huge following because of
the you know the obvious reasons. Right, they're publicly owned.
Everybody loves that. They're a small market. YadA, YadA, YadA.
Kansas City right now, no question about it. But think
about this, if you would have answered that same question
fifteen years ago and said, Indianapolis Colts, I'm doing in

(44:40):
two thousand and seven, Indianapolis Colts because Peyton Manning's there,
and Marvin Harrison's there, Reggie Wayne's there, Edrin James is there,
Dwight Freeney is there, Robert Mathis is there. So you
picked the Indiapolis Colts, then right now, there's no way
you're renewing the Colts. But if you picked the Dallas
Cowboys twenty years ago, you would still be renewing the Cowboys.
And if you picked the Cowboys years ago, you would

(45:00):
still be renewing the Cowboys. My point being they are
America's team for the glitz and glamour of it, but
they haven't won. When's the last time they were in
a conference championship? Twenty nine years? Jake, that's like part
of me and we have different age it's a different
age demographic here. But like to me, the Dallas Cowboys

(45:23):
star isn't what the Dallas Cowboys star once meant. Maybe,
like I think it's lost its it's the lore to it.
Who did the NFL pick to play the Super Bowl
champions on the opening night. Well, it's a divisional rival.
I understood. They didn't pick the Giants, no biggest media
market in the world. They didn't pick the Commanders, bright

(45:47):
promising young quarterback, Nation's capital, new ownership, great season last year.
Last year they picked the Eagles in the Packers that
was after? Was that Kansas City, Buffalo, Kansas City. Well,
they usually have one of the final four teams from

(46:09):
the previous year. That's in there right. My point being,
we're kind of agreeing on the same thing though, because
I'm telling you, like from a competitive standpoint, when are
we going to quit doing this with Dallas? I get
the fact that their marketing brand is the biggest in
the NFL. It probably is. It just is, whether you
like it or not. But when are we gonna quit

(46:30):
doing it? In terms of, you know, the Micah Parsons situation,
that was a bigger story because it's the Dallas Cowboys,
and I realize he's one of the best defensive players
in the National Football League. But if the exact same
drama had been going on and he was trying to

(46:50):
get his way traded out of Atlanta or traded out
of Green even Green Bay or traded out of Denver.
It is not near as big a story as it
is because it is the Dallas Cowboy. And here's the
other thing that I took into consideration with the whole
twenty years thing Jake is Jerry Jones isn't going to
be around for much longer. Like, does his son have

(47:11):
the same level of cachet and you know fan interest
that Jerry has, Yeah, the same that just the overall
public persona. Yes, fair, fair, but I but what I'm
saying is Eddie that was in existence before Jerry Jones.
Though I mean, Jerry Jones might have taken it to

(47:32):
another level. But Jerry, the reason Jerry Jones bought the
Dallas Cowboys is because they were already the established brand
of and yes, the TV show of the seventies had
a lot to do with it. The Dallas Cowboy cheerleaders
had a lot to do with it. Roger Stauback and
Tony Dorsett had a lot to do with it. And
this is all prehistoric stuff. I get it. I mean,
I totally understand it. But at the same time, it
is you know, I just I they are a massive brand,

(48:01):
and I just I'm like when are we When in
the world are we going to quit doing this? Will
Power has a new job and he left America's team
in the form of Racing Team Penske to go to
Andretti Global. Was that his call? Was that something that
had been in the works for a while, and what
is it about Andretti Global. Now that he goes over

(48:23):
to Colton Herder's ride that entices him, we will find
out all of that from him as he joins us next.
Our next guest has won more polls than any driver
in the history of the NTT IndyCar Series. He also
has won forty three races, the majority of those with
Roger Penske and Team Penske, but he would like to

(48:45):
add to that total because of course he now is
no longer with Team Penske, but stays in the series.
That news in the fact that Will Power is now
a member of Andretti Global and will drive the number
twenty six car that most recently was piloted by Colton
Herda and he joins us now on the always busy
and available for your company to sponsor guest line, will
How are you?

Speaker 4 (49:06):
I'm doing well? Thank you? How are you?

Speaker 1 (49:08):
I am good? And you know what, I'll tell you
part of the reason that I'm good is because and
I feel bad about it. You know, at the end
of the year in Milwaukee and in Nashville, I think
every time that we interviewed you, you know, everybody is
wanting to know the question of what's going to go
on with willpower. We had pretty good indication of what
was going to go on with Willpower, and yet we've

(49:29):
got to ask it, knowing that you can't necessarily say
what's going on with willpower? So how relieved are you
to just have kind of all of this over and
done and now being able to look forward.

Speaker 4 (49:40):
It was a weight off my shoulders. Shure, it's actually
the go kart trail and there right now just having fun.
But I just felt a bit of a relief. So yeah,
it was probably subconsciously weighing on me, and I was
getting a lot of questions about it just and just

(50:03):
sort of you know, the stress was wondering exactly how
is this going to play out? Is it going to
go easily? You know, the transition, and it has gone
very smoothly. So yeah, you know, I'm very very excited
for the future.

Speaker 1 (50:18):
When did this will I mean, obviously this domino felt
quick and we knew it was going to And then
it was not long after the announcement from Team Penske
that you would not return, that you were announced for
Endreddy Global. So when did this all kind of get underway?
When was the first time that you thought about the
fact that you would not be with Team Penske, And
when was the first conversation you had with Andready.

Speaker 4 (50:42):
Well, it's it has been let's say, you know, definitely
from May onwards, I was starting to you know, think, well,
you know, maybe maybe I'm going to have to draw
somewhere else or get another ride. The goal was to
resign with Panske. That was kind of you know, I'd

(51:04):
been there seventeen years and had great success. I love
the team and the people. Roger's been great to me.
And you know, I think after the conversation that I
had with Roger, you know, post Indianapolis, you know, he said,

(51:26):
I'm not going to shoot You've talked to other teams.
I'm not saying that you won't be in the car,
and actually, you know, I'm allowing you to see what's
out there. So at that point, you know, when he
said that I thought, Okay, you know they're looking at
going in a different direction. There's a chance here that
I'm not going to go to Pansy. So then we
started looking around and I would say just about every

(51:48):
team owner and the pit lane spoke to me, but
for Andretti that sort of came together very quickly at
the end. Yeah. I think the first conversation was that
Road America just sort of in passing saw down on
a golf cart and said, oh, you know what, I'd
I'd love to drive for you. And you know, they

(52:10):
didn't really have anything at that point, but you know,
then it probably got the wheels turning for Dan and
you know, there's an opportunity for Colton to go somewhere,
and then that set opened up. So yeah, and then
the whole process went very smoothly. So and that you know,
when we spoke about it, when I signed up to
a four team management at the beginning of the year,

(52:33):
we thought, the most likely thing to happen is that
Roger does sign me for a year or you know,
probably just a year, because that's kind of you know
that that's sort of the trend that Penske has followed
over the years. With the drivers that are a bit older.
But you know, but the ideal place to end up

(52:53):
for us was Andretti. We actually said that, not that
there was anything open there when we were talking about that,
but we actually he said, Oriel said, you know, my
ideal place for you to end up would be at Andretti.
I agreed with him. So that's yeah, I agree. They're
a great team, you know, the they you know, Dan's
very obviously when I started talking to Dan and you know,

(53:17):
even cemented that more because he's he's very in touch
with what needs to be done in that team to
improve it. They're already winning races. I think Honda, as
you've seen this year, have a very good Angince. Yeah,
it was just but yeah, just you know, play it

(53:39):
out quite smoothly.

Speaker 1 (53:40):
Actually, So Dan twis, by the way, is who Will
is referencing there, who is with originally with Group one
thousand and one and now is involved with the ownership
stakes within Andretti Global. So Will, if you would have decided,
for example, after that meeting with Roger Penske in May,
if if you would have woken up a month ago

(54:00):
and said, you know what, I do want to give
another run with Tiam Penske. Here would that have been?
Was that offered to you? Was there the possibility from
their end of you returning to them next year?

Speaker 4 (54:10):
Yes, I was offered to fly up and we never
got to that point. But after Portland, joth and Gibson
called me and said, hey, we'd like to fly you
up to Detroit to meet with Roger and talk about
your future, and you know, and I basically just said, look,

(54:32):
I'm not I'm not going to come back. I'm not
coming back. You know, I've made the decision of my mind.
And I kind of went from there. And Roger called
me a day later and said, yeah, look, we would
love to have negotiated with you, but you know, it
sounds like you made the decision. It was. You know,
Roger was fine with it, he understood, and you know
he he was. And I said, you know, I kind

(54:53):
of didn't want to go through the stress of another
single year of wondering what I'm doing the next year.
And also, you know, I got the feeling that you're
only going to offer me one year, and he said, yeah,
that's true. You know, I'm not going to lie to you.
We were going to ast you one year so yeah,
there was a chance to go back, but my mind
was made up. You know, it was just time for

(55:16):
a change and a different challenge. See if you can,
you know, winning a different team. You know, I think
I like that. It's exciting for me, it's motivating.

Speaker 1 (55:29):
Will power. My guest here, who will be driving for
Dreddi Global coming up in the twenty twenty six IndyCar season,
who will be in car number twenty six? Well, I
want to go back to this and I talked about
this because you have been and I commend you for it.
You and your wife Liz, both I think have been
pretty public about and it's well documented the health challenge
that she had and the balance that you had to

(55:51):
have between being husband and dad and race car driver,
and what I would assume was a difficult distraction for
the last few years as Liz at times her health
was in dire situation. Did that help you navigate this
process in terms of having an understanding of the realities

(56:12):
of what's truly important in life? And how did it all?
How did you weigh all of that out? Because you
you always just seem so kind of relaxed deep down inside?
Were you were you terrified?

Speaker 4 (56:28):
I would never say terrified, but yeah, in twenty three
obviously that it was a very stressful situation. Yeah, Liz's
health has got a lot better. I don't think we
were necessarily thinking of any of that. Yeah, I think, Yeah,
my thinking was I'm late enough in my career. I'm

(56:53):
not gonna say it's a risk that takes, you know,
make a change, because it's not like it all all
went back or just you know, you know, it just
didn't seem like it seemed like that. You know, I
knew in my gut basically, is what I'm trying to say,

(57:13):
is I know him. I knew in my gut that
it was time to move. You just know, at this age,
just felt it like it's the right thing to do
and it's the right time, and I just knew it
in my gut. I just, you know, I trust that feeling.
I sort of don't don't have a lot of indecision
these days to kind of move forward quickly.

Speaker 1 (57:34):
Did some of the things that happened within the team
factor at all. I mean I'm talking about like the
push to pass thing, which you were pleadered of really,
but you were kind of caught up in it in
Saint Pete and then obviously this year at Indie having
to start from the back. Did those things factor in?

Speaker 5 (57:49):
Nah?

Speaker 4 (57:50):
I think. I think having sort of two indy five
hundreds affected by those things were disappointing. You know, my
strategist taken off my car two years in a row,
and definitely that first year it cost us, I think.
But no, you know, they those things were not you know,

(58:14):
they didn't. Yeah, as we've explained many times, there's unfortunate
circumstances there. But it was obviously a lot of things
go into it. You know, you just have a number
of different things that sway your decisions, you know, as
they add up. I wouldn't say that that wasn't one

(58:37):
of them. It was sort of, you know, just just
many things that went into that decision, and you know,
and one of them was my gut, my gut feel
for it. I think this is the right thing to do.

Speaker 1 (58:50):
Okay, last thing for you, will and I appreciate your time,
will power joining us here. And I've made a living
asking questions, and about seventy percent of the time I
ask you a question, I think to myself, I think
that might have been a dumb question, you know, what
I mean. Yeah, so this is probably a dumb question,
And then I want you to tell me if it's
a dumb question. In winning the five hundred with Roger
Penske and in driving for Roger Pinsky and driving for that team,

(59:13):
you have primarily been and had success with Chevrolet. You
now will be going to a team that is kind
of a flagship team for Honda. Theoretically, to those of
us that drive cars, you don't really notice any difference
of the engine underneath you as a driver. Will there
be any sort of a different feel or different style
or challenge for you as a driver with a Honda

(59:35):
engine versus a Chevrolet engine.

Speaker 4 (59:38):
I'm sure there is a difference in the way those
engines drive, you know. I think from the outset, the
Chevy sort of I felt like always a really good
top end. I think I've always thought that Honda has
very sort of good blowish mid range, So I think
there is a difference. So I think the performance is

(59:59):
very cool and I'll get to feel that. You know,
I can only sort of wonder what it feels like
until I actually drive the car, So I would almost
guarantee that will be a difference.

Speaker 1 (01:00:14):
So that wasn't a dumb question.

Speaker 4 (01:00:16):
That wasn't that wasn't a dumb question.

Speaker 1 (01:00:19):
But I've had some dumb questions, right yeah, I mean.

Speaker 4 (01:00:22):
You know, this whole interview has kind of been no good.
You've got great questions, believe me, good, good, good questions
they have been. I've I've definitely had dumb questions from
people over the over my time. Yours have been great.

Speaker 1 (01:00:40):
So all right, so you're gonna go out and you're
just going to get the go cart and drive around
the track all day to day to just clear the
mind and get back to the roots.

Speaker 4 (01:00:48):
Well, uh, there's actually names Davia Day for a He's
Italian and it's like a five time world chance. I
thought I'd come out and around with him just for fun.
You know. Quality definitely a top level job is a
bit of son for me.

Speaker 1 (01:01:08):
There you go. I mean, that's that is different than
the way most of us will spend our off days.
But listen, I know it's been a busy and flurry
of activity here, a busy time for you, and I
certainly appreciate not only the time will but also the
explanation from all of it. Our best to you, and
you know, to Liz as well and your son, and
certainly look forward to seeing you coming up in Saint Pete.

Speaker 4 (01:01:30):
No good stuff, man, looking forward to it. It's going
to be great.

Speaker 1 (01:01:34):
Much appreciate it, will enjoy it.

Speaker 4 (01:01:36):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:01:37):
That is Will Power joining us on the program today.
Very interesting, especially the part about you know having known,
and I was told that that it was around May
when I think he just had idea and listen to
further expand on that. You know, Power is a guy

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that came over. He was running for kV Technology and
as a rookie kV Racing Technology. He's a native of Australia.
You could probably tell there to Womba, Australia, which is
a small town. I mentioned this earlier. And he his
wife who grew up in Texas but went to high
school here at Hamilton Southeastern. Liz was working for another
team in pr when the two of them met and

(01:02:20):
got married, had a child, and then as a matter
of fact, I can't remember if it was just after,
but I remember the two of them being together at
a dinner that was held just after Dan Weldon's fatal injury.
And Power was in a really tough spot in that
because when that accident had happened. Will Power's car came

(01:02:41):
to arrest kind of facing right towards Dan Weldon, and
Power told me that he had a back injury at
that time, and that they believe his back was further
injured because of the haste in which he tried to
exit the car prematurely because he didn't want to have
to look at what he was seeing, and the situation
with Weldon. But at that time, I remember that was
when he and Liz maybe they had just got married

(01:03:02):
or were just you know, publicly together, but they were
inseparable and they still are. And when the situation arose
with her health scare, which I believe was a sepsis
in her spinal fluid, I could be wrong in that,
but I think that's what it was. It was very
very serious her illness some three years ago, two years ago,

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and his ability and I don't know that a lot
of us knew what he was going through. And that
kind of holds true this year as well, in terms
of a guy that won until Joseph Nugarten's race at
the end of the year, you know, he had the
only win for Penske this year and was remarkably consistent
and always available. I mean, he's as you hear there,

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that's how he is. He's kind of always laid back.
But I think you have to think the world of
his professionalism, his dedication, and his loyalty, his loyalty to
that team and then ultimately his loyalty in the end
to himself. But I certainly appreciate that that conversation. Now
back to talking about Eddie. I did not realize this
when we were talking about, you know, key key teams,

(01:04:09):
and this is kind of what I'm talking about that's
fascinating within the NFL. I do have one quick follow up, Jake, Okay,
that's not uncommon, right, IndyCar for these conversations that you know,
people of IndyCar and fans call it silly season, kind
of like quote unquote free agency in the NFL or NBA,
That's not uncommon that drivers have conversations with other teams
around the month of May because that's typically like the

(01:04:30):
halfway point of the year. That's when most of the
sponsors are in town and you have communication within. That's right,
But a lot of times Eddie happens this way, and
you see this a lot in business, right, your contract
prohibits you from talking to a team, but it doesn't
necessarily prohibit your you know, hey, I didn't talk to them,
Well your agent did, or your manager did, Oriel Servia

(01:04:52):
is his business manager. Now, oh really yeah? And so
you know, I think you see things like that where
it's like, okay, you know, let's there are as he
talked about there then it was Road America. He just says, hey,
you know what, like I'd like to talk to you
guys and whatever else. And a guy like will Power
with that resume, they're absolutely going to be open to

(01:05:14):
that conversation. For certain. When we were talking about the
Cowboys and just their value in general, I didn't realize this, Eddie.
I knew that they were one of the highest valued
teams in the National Football League, but what I didn't
realize is that they are believed to be the most

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valuable sports franchise in the world of any sport, which
when you consider soccer, is saying something thirteen billion dollars
is the estimated value of the Dallas Cowboys. Now that
is of significance. And let me tell you why. I
just saw for example, and my apologies darn it that
I don't remember which franchise it was. I was just

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reading an article about another franchise in the NFL that
had like a capital investment group that purchased I think
ten or twelve percent of the of a franchise, and
I can't remember which franchise it was, and I apologize
for that, but it was not a groundbreaking It wasn't
the Cowboys, It wasn't the you know, the New York Giants.

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It might actually now I think it might have been.
It was the New York Giants. So that is a
big time market. So it was the New York Giants,
the New York Giants. There was the Cook or Coke
I believe it's Coke family bought into I think eleven
or twelve percent of the New York Giants. And that

(01:06:41):
is of significance. And I'll tell you why. The the
fascinating thing to me about the National Football League is
we get set tonight to start another season. Is the
value of these franchises now? And this is good news
for the Colts. This is good news what I'm about
to say for the Cityapolis. In my opinion, the bober

(01:07:06):
Say purchased the Baltimore Colts, I believe, and he actually
purchased the Los Angeles Rams, and I believe it was
for nineteen million dollars. Now think about that, the Los
Angeles Rams in a market like Los Angeles. He purchased
the Los Angeles Rams for nineteen million dollars and then

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he ended up trading the franchise for the Baltimore Colts,
Bob Sai did. But the point I'm trying to make
here is, yes, that was some what sixty five or
whatever years ago, but even still, the valuation in when
I say valuation, I mean the estimate of value from

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just like your property taxes when the government tells you
what your home should sell for and therefore that establishes
your property taxes. The valuation of a team is done
in the event of a sale or in the event
of a transfer of ownership. The valuation is done in
inheritance purposes for an inheritance tax of what the new

(01:08:15):
owners would owe. So, for example, and I don't know
the exact and nobody knows the exact how it was
set into place, how the wheels were put in motion.
Here in terms of what they want to do for
the valuation of the Indianapolis Colts. Now in terms of
the daughters in owing any sort of an inheritance tax.

(01:08:38):
Was that already done? Was there stuff put in place previously?
Jim mersees passing was unexpected to a great extent, So
it wasn't like they knew like a time period of
you know, we have to have this. That's all a
gray area, I realize. But in the old days, and

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when I say the old days, I mean twenty years ago,
when a franchise was sold, oftentimes it was an individual purchaser.
You know, Daniel Snyder when he bought the Thin Redskins,
he was an individual owner. He had made a bunch
of money through I think it was, you know, the
FedEx or an auxiliary thereof, along with his sister, and
so he wanted to own a team, and so he

(01:09:19):
bought a team. And then by the time he sold it,
there's only like three individuals on planet Earth that can
just write you a check for ten billion dollars. I mean,
there's more than that, I realized, but you get what
I'm saying. It's a very small number of people. And
so we are now at the point where these franchises,
in terms of the ownership, are almost entirely sold to

(01:09:45):
large investment conglomerates as opposed to an individual, a wealthy
individual or multiple wealthy individuals. We're seeing that more too. Well,
that's what I mean, a conglomerate. Yeah, And like the
Denver Broncos are a good example. When the Denver Bronco
just had an ownership pass and the family take it over,
the family based on the inheritance tax then were in

(01:10:07):
a situation where they had to sell the franchise. And
so the the ownership group did not become hey, you know,
Daniel Snyder's going to buy a team, or this wealthy
individual business mogul is going to buy a team. It
had to go to a large network of people who

(01:10:30):
all bought in. If you think about if somebody says
they have two hundred million dollars and they want to
buy an NFL team, two hundred million dollars will buy you.
Two hundred million dollars would get you two percent of
the Dallas Cowboys. So the amount of money is staggering.
But the problem is the valuation because these franchises in

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a large part of it is television contracts. Because these
NFL franchises, and it's true in the NBA, it's true
in Major League Baseball to an extent, but nothing like
the NFL because the values financially speaking, of these franchises
have skyrocketed into the atmosphere and the stratosphere that they're in.

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That not only makes it difficult for an individual to
buy into a franchise, it also makes it very difficult
to assume the tax burden upon an inheritance of that
franchise because you are having to pay the valuation. If
you look at and a lot of people asked me
about the sale of IndyCar and the Indianapolis Motor Speedway

(01:11:38):
and IMS productions to the Fox Television network, and I
don't know, I'm not privy to this at all, but
it would be my assumption that it was a very
sound business move because if you are within a day,

(01:12:00):
decade or so, whatever it may be, I don't know
it's I would never even speculate. But eventually, if the
speedway Empire of IndyCar, the Indiapolis Motor Speedway and IMS
productions is in a situation where it is then being
generationally passed via an inheritance, than in order to do that,
there is an inheritance tax that needs to be paid

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federally speaking, and that tax is determined upon largely the
federal valuation of the sports property, and by selling one
third of it, then what just took place for the
Penske Entertainment Group was they just set the parameters of
the estimate of the valuation. They determined it. Hey, we're

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telling you we just sold thirty three percent for X
amount of dollars. So you do your math, but this
is what the valuation is. So they set that barometer there,
which was very very smart. I don't know that that
that was the impetus for it, but it would be
a very smart business decision if that was a factor
in that sale. And so the long winded point I'm

(01:13:09):
making here is when you look at things like the
Dallas Cowboys setting the bar on franchise values for the NFL,
what they are setting the bar on as well, is
the valuation of what an estimated value of the Indianapolis
Colts would be. And we are now in a period
where there is a transfer of power via inheritance of

(01:13:31):
that ownership group. Did they already have the wheels in
motion for the tax implication. I don't know the answer
to that. I would assume so, and I would hope so.
But the good news for fans of Indianapolis is, let's
just say, hypothetically that the Ersa daughters don't have the
capital to pay the inheritance tax based on the valuation.

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The good news is, you know, you're in nineteen ninety five,
that would have meant, oh gosh, they're gonna have to
sell the franchise well now, because these values have gone
so high there are so few people to sell it
to on an individual basis that probably what it would
mean is that they're may be in a position where
they have to sell a percentage of the franchise to

(01:14:14):
an ownership group of people. Thus, the majority owners would
still be the three daughters, even if each one of
them only had seventeen percent to add to fifty one percent.
If you sell the other forty nine percent to a
group of twenty people, then you still maintain majority ownership,
and thus your ideas of the best interest, the best

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trajectory of the franchise, and most importantly, the location of
the franchise stays within the desire of the Urse girls
and thus their father, and so therefore it stays in Indianapolis.
I don't think the Colts are at any risk of moving,
But would it be a smart play for them perhaps
to sell part of that based on and in a
good way, I say this about the NFL based on

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the skyrocketed valuation. Yes, and the Dallas Cowboys are one
that set the bar for that and set that parameter
for the rest of the league on what the valuation
of the worth would be. Kind of like the Pacers
in Stephen Rails. Yes, that's an excellent example. Stephen Rails
came in and Herb Simon sold him not the majority,

(01:15:19):
but a percentage of the Indiana Pacers. Thus, when Herb Simon,
when there is an inheritance that goes to the Simon children,
the tax burden is less than what it would have
been prior to that sale. That isn't That's exactly the point.
We're gonna go on a road trip, is that right?
That is right? Are we driving or flying? I'm hoping
we're flying to Miami? All right, we're gonna do it.
We're gonna previews Dolphins colts. So we're gonna do it

(01:15:42):
with somebody who knows the Dolphins inside. The games now
count starting on Sunday, starting tonight. Really for that matter,
in the National Football League. But for the Colts, it
is the Miami Dolphins game number one Lucas Oil Stadium
coming up on Sunday. Tailgate by the way with the
fan before that takes place at our friends at the
Slippery Noodle. Marty Bacon and the group there will be hosting.

(01:16:04):
We would love to have you come by and enjoy
the festivities before the game itself. But now we take
the first of what will be a season long Thursday
road trip and Chris Perkins is the columnist for the
Miami Dolphins for the Sun Sentinel. The South Florida Sun
Sentinel joins us now on the program. Chris, I'm going
to get right to this, and that is the Dolphins

(01:16:26):
are one that from afar lots of talent. Been times
in the last couple of years where that talent has
really shown itself and there's been high promise and then
things kind of plateaued out. What is the expectation for
the Dolphins coming into this season? Is there more stability
than we've seen?

Speaker 4 (01:16:45):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:16:45):
Boy?

Speaker 6 (01:16:46):
First of all, let me just say I've lost a
lot of brain sales in the Slippery Noodles, So I
love to hear references to that place.

Speaker 1 (01:16:53):
Yeah, it's a great place, man, it is a great place.

Speaker 6 (01:16:56):
Expectations for the Dolphins are mixed. You know, I've picked
them to go nine and eight this season. I think
a lot of the sportsbooks in Vegas have seven and
a half wins as the over under. Other placers have
eight and a half wins as the over under. The
deal with the Dolphins really is, you know, they're going
through now a transition. They were doing the win now

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thing with the veterans and the thirty somethings. Now they've
transitioned to winning with use and draftees, and so what
you're gonna see is a team in flux. You know,
they're trying to rediscover that deep passing game that they
have fueled by Tula to Tyreek and Tua to Jalen
Waddle that worked so well in twenty twenty two and

(01:17:39):
twenty twenty three. They need to find a running game,
you know. They they have Devon a Chan and he's
good as a small, fast guy, but they need some power.
They had signed Alexander Madison, he went out with a
season ending neck injury. So now that power role is
gonna be filled by Oli Gordon, the second their sixth
round pick from from Oklahoma State. They're also with the power.

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They're trying to revamp that offensive line, so they have
a second round Pinck Jonas Vai Naya. They signed James
Daniels as a free agent signee from Pittsburgh. So offensively,
they're going through a lot of things. Defensively, they're fueled
by that front seven, the edge rushers. They've got a
four nan combo of Bradley Chubb, Jalen Phillips, Chop Robinson,
and Matthew Judah. That's really the strength of the defense.

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Last year they had the number four defense in the
league going into this game. Obviously, the game plan is
to stop Jonathan Taylor, so you can allow the pass
rushers to feast, get the Colts into second and long,
third and long. But they really want to be a balance,
a more balanced offense, not just the deep passing game,

(01:18:48):
but then they can have some power running and then
they want that defense to be led by the front
seven and more specifically the edge rushers. It's gonna be
a mixed bag. I'm not really sure what to expect.
I don't think nine wins is going to get you
into the playoffs, but if they have a winning record,
I think a lot of fans will be happy. To me,

(01:19:09):
that's more mediocrity and it's not good to me. The
goal for the season should be they have to win
a playoff game. But I think a lot of the
fans here, if they just have a winning record, they'll
be happy.

Speaker 1 (01:19:21):
Chris, It's interesting because you talk about the running game,
and it was just a couple of years ago where
the Dolphins almost seemed to be like one of the
trend setters. There were other teams as well where it
was all about open space guys. It was about just
get the ball in space to speed burners and speed
kills offensively, and it almost was like the NFL was

(01:19:42):
devaluing the running back position. And now there seems to
be a trend the other way, where people realize there
is importance at the running back position. Is that a
fair assessment of kind of where Miami might have been
a trend setter, but now all of a sudden has
to step back. And Rea direct a little bit.

Speaker 6 (01:20:01):
It is and I'll give you some numbers about the
Dolphins offense. So you know that that the Dolphins in
the last well in the in the Mike McDaniel era,
they're four and sixteen against playoff teams. The last two years,
they're two to ten against playoff teams, and Tua has

(01:20:22):
made all twelve of those starts. In those twelve games,
he's got fifteen touchdowns fourteen interceptions. But even worse, neither
Tyreek Keel nor Jalen Waddle has a one hundred yard
receiving game against the playoff team in the last two years.
The reason why is because it's a one dimensional offense.

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The good teams are able to shut down that passing game.
You play the two shell safety, the two high safeties,
and you keep that that you keep that ball in
front of you, and so Waddle and Tyreek can't eat.
There's no run game. There's nobody respects the run game.
The Dolphins are eight and eleven the last two years
when they rush for over one hundred yards. So getting back,

(01:21:06):
you know, bringing it full circle, Yes, they're trying to
develop a run game so that if teams do play
that too high safety, then okay, the Dolphins can run, run, run,
and that can lead them to victories. They were before
they would just pile up yards and the yards didn't
mean anything because they were kind of cute the yards
that that, you know, the outside zone runs. They're gonna

(01:21:28):
pile up yards, but they aren't gonna score a lot
of touchdowns. So now they're trying to get some respect
for that run game. Get teams to drop that eighth
man into the box and then you go over the
top and then you get that deep passing game going.
But yeah, for the Dolphins, the run game is the
key to the pass game. So I'm expecting a fairly

(01:21:49):
steady diet early of run so that they can try
to force the Colts to drop that eighth man in
the box and then go over the top and wake
up that pass game. But the pass game is no
good without a good run game, So the Dolphins Gifts
are trying to rediscover a run game.

Speaker 1 (01:22:08):
Chris Perkins is our guest. He's what the sun settinely
covers the Miami Dolphins down there. I think, if I'm
not mistaken, he also gets a lifetime of charitable benefit
from the fact that he had to tolerate and work
with mc engle at some point along the line in
his career. I think, yeah, yeah, I think that yet, Yeah,
I think that's right.

Speaker 3 (01:22:25):
Yeah, I haven't heard that name in a while.

Speaker 1 (01:22:27):
Yeah, well I wish I had neither. Mac and I
grew up together. He's an Indie guy and he's been
on the show a lot. But Chris, how are the
Dolphins defensively, because you know for the Colts, they the
Colts I think have some and it's going to be interesting.
There's a lot of it, I guess, interest in what
Tyler Warren can do as the tight end. Certainly we
know of Jonathan Taylor, but what sort of looks will

(01:22:48):
Miami give Indianapolis and what can Indianapolis exploit.

Speaker 6 (01:22:52):
So the Dolphins were number four in total defense last year,
they were number nine against the run. So again, what
they really wanted to stop Jonathan Taylor and get the
Colts in the third and long so those edge rushers
can feast. But obviously that starts with not letting Quinton
Nelson dominate you right up front, and that's a big thing.
And then last year when the Coats beat them, what

(01:23:14):
was it, sixteen to ten, Jonathan Taylor didn't play, Danny Jones,
Daniel Jones didn't play, and Tyler Warren was not there.
So this is a kind of a different Coats offense.
You've got some. I mean, when you add in Tyler
Warren and Jonathan Taylor, you know it's a different offense, right,
So you know the Dolphins are really gonna have to
work to figure out, you know, what can they do

(01:23:36):
to limit the effectiveness of that of that indie offense
or really the threat of Jonathan Taylor and Tyler Warren.
The strength of the Dolphins defense is the front seven.
It's really the edge rushers. But you know, they've got
a good defensive front, Zach Steeler, defensive tackle who's coming

(01:23:57):
off of back to back ten SAX seasons. They got
Benito Jones up there to stop the run. He's a veteran.
They drafted Kenneth Grant first round or out of out
of Michigan, and he's a run stuffer. So really, you
know we're gonna see and I'll tell you the other
strength of the defense is the inside backers. Jordan Brooks,
who led the team in tackles last year one forty three,

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Terrell Dotson, who led the team in interceptions with three.
He's gonna be charged sometimes with defending Tyler Warren. And
then the Dolphins definitely had problems stopping tight ends last year,
Trey McBride caused them some some major problems. A couple
of other guys, Trey McBride from Arizona, a couple of
other guys caused them some problems. But you know, the

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front seven is really the strength of the Dolphins defense,
and that's where they're gonna have to do their best work.
I'll tell you this. The cornerback situation is an absolute
disaster for the Dolphins. One of the outside corners that
stormed up last year, he was an undrafted rookie out
of Louisville. There's some pretty good reason to have faith
in him. He made good progress last year. In the slot,

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they'll have Jason Marshall, junior or rookie fifth round pick
out of Florida. The other outside corner probably be Jet Jones,
who they just signed like maybe six weeks ago. Behind
him would be Rasul Douglas who they just signed. He
was a free agent from Buffalo. They just signed him
maybe three or four weeks ago. So the corner of

(01:25:24):
that situation is a disaster. You know, they got Minka
Fitzpatrick in the Jalen Ramsey trade, so he's one safety.
The other safety will probably be Ashton Davis who comes
over from the Jets. That could be Iffy Mellon fun Wu.
But the secondary is a work in progress and those
corners can be had. So the front seven has to

(01:25:45):
do good work and those edge rushers have to be
able to take some pressure off of the corners and
put pressure on Daniel Jones.

Speaker 1 (01:25:52):
Of course, they also added Juju Brentz fromer Coolts cornerback
after he was waived by Indianapolis. And Storm Duck is
a terrific name.

Speaker 6 (01:26:00):
That name one of the best Thames in the league
I know.

Speaker 1 (01:26:03):
And ironically, Jake he played for a school that was
a bird.

Speaker 2 (01:26:06):
Real yeah, Louisville louis Cardinals, Cardinals.

Speaker 1 (01:26:10):
On the offensive side of things, there's no it's no
secret how much drama there has been around Tyreek Hill
dating back to last year. What is his relationship like now,
I know he's not a captain for Miami with Tua
and with the rest of the Miami team.

Speaker 6 (01:26:23):
I think it's fine. I really do think it's fine.
You know, as I always say, Tyreek's done a Tyreek
you know he he look. I think Tyreek is hitted
to the Hall of Fame if he continues doing what
he's done.

Speaker 3 (01:26:35):
Uh.

Speaker 6 (01:26:36):
You know, with the exception of last year when I
think he slacked off to well, not slacked off, slump
down to nine hundred and forty nine yards receiving or
whatever it was, to a missed six game. So that
was a big reason why. But you know, with Tyreek,
you know that guy produces on the field. You know,
I think the first year he had h this is
his fourth year with the Dolphins. First year, I believe

(01:26:58):
with seventeen hundred and ten yards. Second year seventeen ninety nine,
and he was, you know, unpaid for two thousand until
he got a horse collar tackle against Tennessee late in
the season that slowed him down late. You know, with Tyreek,
he's a lead by example guy. And when you talk
about Tyreek not being a team captain, I think it's

(01:27:19):
a The story there is the Dolphins have a team
vote for team captains. Seen captains aren't a point. Team
captains are voted on by players, and I think it's
more of a statement that the players decided, no more
of this stuff, no more of this Tyreek nonsense. We're
not going to tolerate him as a team captain when

(01:27:40):
he's doing all of these things. You know, Tyreek's off
the field behavior. He started last season before the opener
being detained by the police outside of hard Rock Stadium.
He ended the season and the finale against the Jets
with the you know what we call the I'm out speech,
where he said, I can't do this anymore, might need

(01:28:00):
to be traded. I can't you know, be around here.
We're not gonna be be making the playoffs and winning
playoff games. I thought it was a good thing for
the other players to draw the line in the sand
and say we're not going to tolerate this. So Tyreek's
relationship with them is good. And I think the real
story there is that maybe the team is saying no

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more of this foolishness. But Tyreek can lead by example.
He doesn't need that sea on his jersey.

Speaker 1 (01:28:27):
Like he said yesterday, how did storm duck not go
to Oregon?

Speaker 4 (01:28:31):
Oh?

Speaker 6 (01:28:31):
Yeah, that's a good one.

Speaker 1 (01:28:33):
Yeah, or Miami or Iowa State?

Speaker 2 (01:28:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:28:35):
I mean you got to be a hurricane of cyclone
or a duck, right, I mean it's got to be
one of those three. All right, Chris. Last thing before
we let you go, you know, South Florida traffic. I
mean We all know about South Florida traffic and you
got you know, six lanes wide and it's always backed up.
But let's imagine the AFC. I want you, Chris, to
think about the AFC in like late November. You got

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a six lane interstate. The teams that are on their
way to the fast track to the playoffs are all
in the left lane, and we anticipate that's probably going
to be Kansas City and Buffalo, and you know those
teams are in the left lane.

Speaker 4 (01:29:07):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (01:29:08):
It feels like right now that Miami. The Indianapolis perspective
would be that Miami and India are probably in the
same lane and they're both trying to merge over, and
it's like, well that that car there, I'm not going
to let him over. That kind of thing. When you
look at it, you see the Indianapolis Colts. I want
the outside Indianapolis perspective. You see the Colts being the

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majority of this season in what lane of this interstate
and how close to getting their way into the left lane?

Speaker 6 (01:29:38):
Oh boy, probably second or third lane trying to merge over.
I'm looking at the Colts. Probably they were eight wins
last year. If I'm not mistaken. I'm looking at the
same thing from the Colts this year. Maybe they get
to nine wins. I don't see them as a playoff
team at this point, and so I see both the
Dolphins and the Colts going into the December around five

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hundred whatever that number would be, what six and six
may be, or you know, seven and six, whatever it
would be. For the Dolphins. You know, one of their
big problems is they don't play well in December and January,
and so they they've got a pretty full schedule the
Dolphins do in in December and January. They're playing Pittsburgh

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at Pittsburgh on Monday Night, They're playing Tampa Bay, They're
playing Cincinnati, and so it's gonna be rough for them
down the stretch. I don't know what Indie schedule is
down the stretch, but I see them both at five
hundred ishings just trying to merge over into that left
lane going into December and January. Injury they're gonna be

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a factor. Schedule is gonna be a factor. I don't
know how it turns out for either of them, but
I've got the Dolphins as a nine win team and
Indy as an eight win team.

Speaker 1 (01:30:52):
Okay, and both of them are looking at the ways
about the cars that's broken down. That's Cleveland.

Speaker 2 (01:30:58):
That's right.

Speaker 6 (01:30:58):
You got to say, say from Cleveland, New Orleans.

Speaker 1 (01:31:02):
New Orleans, New Orleans was a couple exits back, but yes,
yeahs back right right, hey man, We appreciate the time
as always. All right, certainly enjoy the slipper noodle. If
you're going to be in town.

Speaker 6 (01:31:15):
All right, I'll try to get make a visit down there.

Speaker 4 (01:31:17):
Thanks.

Speaker 1 (01:31:18):
All right, much appreciated, much appreciated. Chris Perkins joining us
from South Florida. All right, we'll come back. Matt Taylor
going to join us. By the way, on the program,
the voice of the colt is going to be doing so.
Just over ten are the Indiana Fever. Boy. The hits
just keep coming coming, and I realize this is a
player who has been injured, and thus they have already

(01:31:40):
had to adapt of life without But once again Eddie,
another player on the roster we now know will not
be returning for the rest of the year. For the
Indiana Fever. It's not Caitlin Clark. It is Chloe Bibbie,
the Australian who they brought in a couple months ago,
think in July. At the end of July, she had

(01:32:01):
been dealing with a knee injury for like two weeks
and missed like three or four games. Then she was
off the injury report. I can't exactly remember when that was,
and then she was back on it, missed a game,
and now they have ultimately decided that she will not
be able to suit up for the remainder of the season.
So yet another loss. They are in action tomorrow taking

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on the Chicago Sky Correct. Yeah, And as a ancillary move,
they brought back Brie Hall for the rest of the season.
She was one of those players that was on a
hardship contract for the Indiana Fever. And then when I
believe is I think it was Sophie Cunningham's injury, they
decided to bring in Shape Petty and they let Bree

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Hall go because they wanted to go to the avenue
of a veteran who has played a lot of time
in the WNBA, who can handle the basketball. So instead
of a player like Hall who had minimal to no
experience in the WNBA, they brought in Petty with the
veteran leadership. You were to survey Eddie Garrison fans of
the National Football League, with this being the opening day
of the NFL season Cowboys Eagles tonight, if you were

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to survey and go to every franchise in the league,
and let's say that you were to do let's say
you were to get an email list of every season
ticket holder in the National Football League. Okay, so you
are literally, I mean, what are there probably forty thousand

(01:33:30):
season ticket holders per franchise, thirty two franchises. You know,
you're looking at one point three what million people? Roughly? Yeah, roughly.
So if you were to survey all of them and
tell them that they are going to win a contest
where they are able to go and pick any other

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five franchises, not the one they're a fan of, but
any other five franchises and witness and attend and experience
a home game of that team, not based on their
team going and playing there, but just simply experiencing the
home game atmosphere in the stadium of a different NFL team,

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based on the experience, not the city, not the I'm
talking about, just the stadium game experience. What do you
believe would be the five franchises that the highest percentage
of NFL fans would say, I've never been to a
game there, but I want to experience it. Buffalo okay,
Cleveland okay, because of the dog Pound, that's fair. Would

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you throw Pittsburgh in there because of the terrible towels?
It's probably how on the list. I think there's very
clear number one, and probably a pretty close number two. Okay,
But what you've said so far a good any others
that jump out of you. Vegas Okay, I think that's

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way up there. But again that's because of the atmosphere, right,
But I mean because of the city. But do they
still do the black hole in Vegas like they did
in Oakland? I think so. I mean, I think Vegas
would be up there just because people are like, oh man,
it'd be fun to be in Vegas. But if you're
just talking the stadium atmosphere, I still think that would
be up there. I think there are three big ones

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that you're missing that probably would be the top three. Okay,
Green Bay. I'm gonna bring Matt Taylor into this equation too,
because he's been to most of them, and that's one
of the things I'll ask him and I'll do it
next Colts Dolphins Sunday, Lucas Oil Stadium. You can hear
that game, of course, on this radio station, and when

(01:35:45):
doing so, you will be hearing the dulcet tones of
Matt Taylor describing the action. He joins us now on
the always Busy and Available to be Sponsored guest line. Matt,
I'm going to begin with a question that I was
just posing to Eddie. Allow me to lay down for
you the groundwork have said question, and then we want
the Matt Taylor answer. Are you ready?

Speaker 4 (01:36:04):
Let's do it?

Speaker 1 (01:36:05):
Okay, if you were to take every season ticket holder
in the NFL, Let's say there's roughly one point three
million people that have season tickets to their respective cities
NFL franchise, and you were to simply say to all
of those people, you get to select five road games
to attend, not to see your team, but just five

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NFL franchises to go and see a home game in
that team's stadium, not based on a place that you
think would be a fun city, not based on the weather,
but simply based on what you would believe to be
the best in game experience in a stadium, and just
a legendary must do sports bucket list item in the NFL.

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What do you believe would be the five franchises that
would tabulate the highest number of votes of CEA. Some
ticket holders within the NFL saying, I want to see
a game there.

Speaker 3 (01:37:07):
Green Bay, Kansas City, Yep, probably Dallas because of the
magnitude of the facility.

Speaker 1 (01:37:15):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (01:37:16):
Right in the big scoreboard, that's three, right.

Speaker 1 (01:37:21):
I think undoubtedly the big three. Right. I think that's
almost undoubtedly the Big three.

Speaker 3 (01:37:28):
And then I think you're going to have people that
are I know you're asking people not to do this,
but I think inevitably people will. They'll just pick whether
so they'll pick Tampa Bay or Miami or Arizona or La.

Speaker 2 (01:37:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:37:40):
I think LA would be up there because that kind
of has same level of venue. Intrigued, does it not?

Speaker 3 (01:37:47):
Yeah? It does. Yeah. And selfishly I'm excited to go there.
We go there twice this year in a span of
like six weeks, so I'm excited to kind of cross
that one off my bucket list. I would put Soldier
Field up there, but I've never been there. I swear
I've been doing this CARA for fourteen years and I've.

Speaker 1 (01:38:04):
Never been to Soldier Here's what's interesting about Soldier Field.
I went, I've not been to a football game there,
but I've been to the venue. I saw guns n'
roses at Soldier Field a couple of years ago. And
one of the things, this sounds ridiculous. One of the
things I noticed. You don't realize with super old stadiums
until you go to them. This is true of Wrigley,

(01:38:25):
It's certainly true of Fenway. You realize that one hundred
years ago every American was five nine and one hundred
and thirty five pounds. Yeah, you know what I mean, Like,
the walkways are, the concourses are narrow, the I mean
the seats Obviously, they've changed them to an extent, But
if you're in some of the original ceded areas, you're like,

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holy cow. I mean it's amazing, you know it just
it is not it's different. Now you've been to Los
Angeles the city correct, Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I
mean I love LA and the weather's fabulous. But yeah,
I think Green Bay, Kansas City, and Dallas would be
probably almost undoubtedly the top three in that. Okay, Matt,

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I tossed in Buffalo because of Bill's Mafia. Buffalo's there too.

Speaker 3 (01:39:11):
I think yeah, yeah, But Buffalo. I mean, I like
the stadium, but there's not as much like history in Buffalo.
There's like there's charm in Buffalo, but like there I mean,
Lamba's lambo, you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (01:39:26):
But I have both. But I think, Matt, that Buffalo
has a little bit of the same intrigue that Green
Bay has in the fact that it just represents tough
as day's blue collar football, you know what I mean.
Just the fans are just it's there's just something about
when you watch a game in Buffalo, you think to yourself,

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that's a fan base with a dedication that goes to
depths I can't grasp, you know what I mean with that.

Speaker 3 (01:39:52):
I mean, and when you're in Buffalo, I mean, to
your point, Bill, I mean, you can't escape the bills.
There's bill stuff everywhere, every ball every restaurant is just
decked out and bills. And every person at the bar,
every person at the table is probably having some sort
of conversation about either the current team or nostalgia or
you know, bills of of of you know, yesteryear. But

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I don't know, Like they're building a new stadium right
next to the existing stadium, right now.

Speaker 1 (01:40:20):
I was just there. Yeah, I was just there like
a month ago.

Speaker 3 (01:40:24):
So I mean that's going to be a big time upgrade.
Whereas Lambeau they would never think to build a new stadium.

Speaker 1 (01:40:30):
Well, you and I might have talked about this, What
is the awkward teenage years of a stadium? In other words,
what how long does a stadium have to go being
a dump before then it becomes retro cool.

Speaker 3 (01:40:47):
That's a good question, you know, because I'm sure Wrigley
was outdated in antiquated at some point and now it's
like a destination whereby has to cross it off their
list because of how historically Yeah, yeah, exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:41:00):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:41:01):
That's a good question. I think Market Square Arena was
probably on its way there to becoming I mean, it
was antiquated, but it was also like totally it was
it was it was our place, you know what I mean,
Like it was our small arena. You know, it kind
of represented the city. But at the same time, like
there was no place to build suites, there was no

(01:41:22):
place for modern amenities and scoreboarders and things like that,
so it had to go. But you know, it was
on its way to becoming.

Speaker 1 (01:41:29):
You know, classic Matt. You know what's fascinating. I think
about this a lot with Market Square, and then I
want to get to the Colts Dolphins game obviously coming
up on Sunday. But I think about this a lot
with Market Square. And I've mentioned it a few times,
but we don't think about this. But if you think
about the fact that Market Square Arena was an elevated

(01:41:49):
arena that had Market Street running just below it, four
stories above it. But but you literally you could drive
underneath it. I mean, I think the road was closed
during games, but the bottom line being you could get
direct underneath it. When you think about the world, and
I don't mean this to be trivial, but after particularly
nine to eleven and then I guess Oklahoma City, even

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though when you think about those aspects of the world
that we live in today, there's no way they would
have been able to have live events there anymore.

Speaker 3 (01:42:19):
Right, Man, I never have thought about that.

Speaker 1 (01:42:22):
I know that that's a really dark thing, but I
was like, gosh, you know what, like, it's amazing to
think that you had immediate access directly underneath it with
eighteen thousand people above you.

Speaker 4 (01:42:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:42:32):
No, I mean to your point though, I mean I
remember going to games as a kid and parking around
the block and walking, you know to that door right
at Market Square or Market Street.

Speaker 1 (01:42:42):
Yeah, going up the steps.

Speaker 3 (01:42:44):
Going up the steps, going up through the stairs, and
I can just I don't know, just things about your childhood.
You can appreciate this, Like I remember you walked you
you open up the door that led into the concourse
at Marcus Square Arena, and I think, if I if
I stop and close my eyes and think real hard,
I can still smell it.

Speaker 1 (01:43:01):
Oh you know what I mean, no questions.

Speaker 3 (01:43:03):
The stickiness of.

Speaker 1 (01:43:05):
The smell was Kent cigarettes, right.

Speaker 3 (01:43:11):
Yeah, that was that was definitely baked into the walls
for sure. Yeah, you know, it's just I mean I
used to beg my dad, my dad. You know, he
worked in an office where that he would get pacer
tickets thrown his direction a couple times a year, and
then obviously the better they got, the harder it was
to get tickets and freebies. But I mean when we did,
I just felt like you were on top of the

(01:43:32):
world totally. I always remember those moments and how special
they were going to games with him, and you know,
the whole experience getting to our seats, Matt.

Speaker 1 (01:43:40):
It's what I said when they were in the finals.
This year is all of that reawakened for me, right
going down to see Wayman Tisdale and John Long and
you know what I mean, Steep bo and all right,
So for kids, obviously today in twenty twenty five, those
memories are going down to Lucas Oil. It's to watch
the Colts. It's to see this time of year when
hope spring eternal and there's optimism. And I've said I

(01:44:02):
do like the roster. I know the quarterback position is
one that is of intrigue, but I like the roster
in general. But from what you have been able to tell,
we just talked about it with Chris down in Miami.
From your perspective, the thing about the Dolphins that the
Colts might be able to take advantage of or is
this even Matt, at this time of year, are they

(01:44:23):
even game planning of breaking down film on what they
think Miami is going to do? Or do you just
in week one kind of push in on who you
are and wait to see what the opponent does.

Speaker 3 (01:44:35):
Yeah, I still think you can gain plan based on
personnel in tendencies of coordinators and things like that. Defensively,
they still have the same coordinator from last year, Anthony Weaver,
And you know, this was a top ten defense last
year across the board and front seven wise, it's still
pretty good, and they still have a lot of the
core guys that were really really stingy in twenty twenty four.

(01:44:58):
But the back end is completely different, and I think
you can exploit it. I mean, guys like I mean,
Mika Fitzpatrick is back and so like I think he's
one of my favorite safeties in the league. But he's
only been there for about a month. You know, he
was traded right before traded from Pittsburgh right before training
camp started. But I mean the other names Rasul Douglas

(01:45:20):
and a Fadi melafan Wu and you're gonna love this
guy from Louisville Storm Duck.

Speaker 1 (01:45:24):
Remember him coming out to how to Oregon. That's what
I was saying.

Speaker 3 (01:45:28):
I mean, completely marketing dropped the ball right there. But
I think defensively, you know, the Colts can get some
things done, I think personnel wise against that secondary now
obviously way easier said than done, but at least on paper,
that is going to be the weakness of that defense.
Whereas being able to stop the run and putting pressure
on Daniel Jones at least initially is their strength. But

(01:45:51):
I think if guys on the outside can win their
one on one matchups and Pittman and downs and certainly
pierce to get some of those big plays that you
have to have to expedite scoring, I think the secondary
can be had in this game. But again, like you said,
it's Week one, not a ton of film on these
guys playing together within this game, and you know, in
this defense under Anthony Weaver. But I think it's exciting

(01:46:14):
to think about, you know, the yards after the catch
and the screens and the over routes and exploiting the
middle of the field that we've talked agnauseum all off
season about from Daniel Jones that could be on display
prevalent early on in Week one.

Speaker 1 (01:46:28):
When you look Matt at Daniel Jones. And you know,
I do think that Daniel Jones is a better athlete
than is given credit. I think that he has some
wheels about him. But I don't know that you design
plays for him in that area, right, I mean, he
can he can extend plays. I don't know that you
design running plays for him. But the offense that we

(01:46:50):
became accustomed to, excuse me, under Anthony Richardson will be
different than under Daniel Jones.

Speaker 3 (01:46:56):
How I don't think that at will. I think the
only difference is you may not, to your point, see
as many design runs. You know, with Richardson towards the
end of last year, you got about five or six
design runs, depending on the matchup in the game. With
Daniel Jones you might see one or two. But that's
not to say that you know, he can't scramble out

(01:47:18):
of the pocket and produce big time with his feet.
I mean, Jonathan Taylor today talked about just that about
he tried to use the word deceptive, But I think
it's inappropriate to talk about Daniel Jones's athleticism because it's
not deceptive. It's pretty obvious how fast and fleet of
foot this guy is. And he's got the sixth most
rushing yards among quarterbacks since twenty nineteen. He's averaging five

(01:47:41):
point six yards per carry for his career, and he's
actually got the Giants all time rushing record for a
single season back in twenty twenty two when he was
over seven hundred yards for that season. But like I said,
it's not a lot of design runs, just a couple,
but I think that's important to display those to a
certain degree because it will keep defensive ends honest in

(01:48:04):
the red zone game. It will, you know, keep those
linebackers sucked up in the line of scrim as just
a hair. I mean, the NFL is all about timing
and you know, milliseconds of you know, angles to be
able to get footballs into in the passing game. That's
why play action is important for defenses to respect the
running ability from from Daniel Jones. So yeah, again, I

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don't think you're going to see aesthetically a ton of
difference between Richardson Richardson led team or a Jones led team.
Just think you're probably not going to call as many
design runs as you would with Richardson. But that's not
to say the Colts won't prioritize that with Daniel Jones.

Speaker 1 (01:48:41):
Matt, you've ever seen the movie Bad Santa.

Speaker 3 (01:48:45):
With Billy Bob.

Speaker 1 (01:48:46):
Yeah, when I say this, it's probably going to offend you,
but we've known each other a long time now. When
I think of the kid in that movie, you know,
the kid in Bad Santa.

Speaker 2 (01:48:56):
Yeah, the kid.

Speaker 1 (01:48:58):
The look on that kid's face to the majority of
that movie and just his overall stature. That's I kind
of think of like nine year old Matt Taylor finding
out that he can't go to the Pacer game as
that kid wearing tough skins. Is that about right?

Speaker 3 (01:49:13):
Yeah? I mean if I had a mirror at the time,
you know, dad comes home and got shut out on tickets,
that probably what it looks like.

Speaker 6 (01:49:20):
Like.

Speaker 1 (01:49:20):
I mean, I'm not saying that you were a portly kid,
because you're not now, but you're a bigger bone guy, right,
You're a football stature. Were you a portly kid?

Speaker 4 (01:49:29):
No?

Speaker 3 (01:49:29):
No, I mean I was. I actually didn't really fill
out until I got to college. I had a hard
time keeping on weight, to be honest with you, so
I was yeah. Yeah, I mean I probably weighed under
two hundred and twenty pounds until I was a junior
in college.

Speaker 1 (01:49:46):
Okay, Yeah enough, all right? Matt Taylor, By the way,
the voice of the Colts, our guest Colts and Dolphins
coming up Lucas Oil Stadium here in week number one.
It is a fun time of year because you just
you look at it and you start kind of trying
to figure out where the wins are going to come,
what games are going to be tough. I just look
at it, Matt, and I want your thought on this.
I think these first two games are so important, not

(01:50:09):
just because they're at home and you want to get
off on a good start, but because they are two
teams that I look at and say, if the Colts
were to hit their ceiling this year, these are two
teams that are going to be kind of hanging around
their neighborhood the whole time. You agree with that.

Speaker 3 (01:50:25):
I couldn't agree with that more. I mean, you look
at the AFC East with the Dolphins and their representation.
Buffalo's won that division five years in a row. Here
comes the Broncos in Week two. You know they're in
the AFC West. The Chiefs have won that division, you know,
nine years in a row. So they definitely have some
you know, road blockages to winning their division historically. And

(01:50:46):
so you thought you start thinking about wild card ramifications
right out of the gate, and you know these head
to head matchups are going to I think, just hold
a ton of weight and hold a lot of magnitude
when you start getting out the tie breaker situations like
we always do inevitably towards the end of the season,
you know, weeks fifteen, sixteen, seventeen and so on and

(01:51:07):
so forth. So it's really really important for that. But
I just think it's really you know, the whole Jim
Mersey component for Sunday matters, the whole. We have a
one a week, one game since twenty thirteen that matters.
I mean, it doesn't, but it also does just because
the fans know about it, and the fans are jaded,

(01:51:28):
and the fans want to see results and trying to
make the playoffs for the first time in four years?
Why is this year going to be different? Why should
we believe in Daniel Jones? Right, We've had eleven different
quarterbacks start a game since twenty nineteen. Why is this
going to be different? Why is Daniel Jones gonna you know,
produce big time results? Like I totally understand all of that.

(01:51:49):
And so just from a I guess from a marketing
angle and from you know, a team locker room angle
that's tired of hearing about all those things. Those things
can all go away just by winning, you know, just
by putting your best foot forward and all of those things.
It's like a big domino effect. If you win, all
of those things just sort of take care of themselves

(01:52:10):
and naturally just go away and people start to pay
attention more, and people start to believe a little bit
more and buy into, you know, the plan here. So
it's a it's a results driven league. It's put up
or shut up time. And that's why I'm excited about
Sundays because you know, since March when there was a
quarterback battle announced between Anthony Richardson and Daniel Jones, and

(01:52:32):
you know we were going to kind of reset things
in terms of consistency and all of that stuff, it's
just been talk, it's been conjecture. You know, things have
progressed a little bit obviously during training camp and the preseason,
but we talked about this last week. You simply do
not know until you start playing regular season games. Like
things you think you are confident in that are going

(01:52:54):
to be strengths of your team, you just do not
know how those things are going to unfold until you
start play in regular season games. So that from a personally,
I'm really excited for Sunday because we're gonna get some
concrete answers to some questions that we've been debating and
kind of kicking around for the last you know, five
or six months.

Speaker 1 (01:53:12):
There has been you know, one of those questions, Matt
is that of when are we finally going to see
Ady Mitchell show why he was drafted where he was
and why there has been belief in him. And my
concern would be that now schematically they do things that
are not necessarily there to showcase Ady Mitchell. Am I wrong?

Speaker 3 (01:53:37):
No? I mean last year, last year, schematically, ad Mitchell
was very much involved in this offense and for him,
getting open was never the problem. It was just finishing routes,
interpreting defenses and finishing the play. I mean, his catch
rate last year was like forty seven percent, you know,

(01:53:58):
like that was one of the worst catch rates in
the league. I think actually it was based on the
requirements that you have to be to qualify for for
that that measurement. So him, his playmaking ability has never
been the question. It's just him trying to mature and
grow and finish those plays that you know, he's doing

(01:54:20):
a nice job of setting himself up for success by
his athleticism, his speed, his route running ability. Uh, he's
just got to finish them off. So I mean to
say that a d Mitchell is not a emphasis to
to draw up going into the season.

Speaker 4 (01:54:35):
I don't.

Speaker 3 (01:54:36):
I don't.

Speaker 1 (01:54:37):
I don't at all, because I think of him as
a behind the defense guy. Maybe he's maybe he is
a little bit more like a a quick down and
out guy, but I think of him as more like
the deep ball home run threat, like an Alec Pierce
is sure and then and that's what I mean is
does Daniel Jones? Will they set those kinds of plays

(01:54:58):
for Daniel Jones to take advantage of the.

Speaker 3 (01:55:00):
Yeah, good, good points? And I think they have to,
I really do. I mean, I've talked about this a lot.
I mean, Jonathan Taylor is going to be the focal
point of the offense and every defense is going to
sell out to, you know, take him away first and foremost.
But in order for Jonathan Taylor to reach his full potential,
if that's the right way to put it within the offense,

(01:55:21):
is you got to have more in the passing game, right.
I mean twice in his career, Jonathan Taylor's have been
over fourteen hundred rushing yards and the Colts haven't made
the playoffs in either one of those seasons. They have
to have more in the passing game, and they have
to have more in the explosive passing game where Mitchell
and Pierce specifically, you know, are accentuated. And it's just

(01:55:42):
hard to score on drives when you're going ten to
twelve plays. It just is a lot of things can
screw it up. You know, you can get a pre
snap penalty, you can get sacked, and all of a
sudden you're behind the chains. So you got to have
the threat of those big plays to wiighten up the
box and then to also widen out the defense so
that they respect what you're going to do on the

(01:56:02):
outside big play potential outside the numbers, so that you
can then take advantage of, you know, the defense in
terms of how it reads then to run Taylor, you know,
on the downs where it's appropriate. So yeah, I mean
for his career, Daniel Jones is like six point eight
yards per attempt and for those that don't know, like
a good yards per attempt number is like seven point five,

(01:56:26):
seven point eight somewhere in there. So he's I mean,
Shane Stike and I think is definitely stressing that to
Daniel Jones that hey, we got to hunt those completions.
Like we've talked about, you got to be consistent. But
also this offense has to have those big plays to
help mitigate scoring. And you know, for this offense to
reach its full potential with all the weapons, you know,

(01:56:46):
Taylor in the running game over the middle of Tyler,
Warren and Josh downs and then on the outside, we
have to be able to incorporate Pierce and Mitchell, you know,
to stress the defense fully.

Speaker 1 (01:56:55):
Okay, lastly, Matt, here we go. I want you to
get me. I think we did this last year as well.
I want you to give me two names. You can
do three if you'd like, but give me a name,
a couple of names on this colt roster that you
need to introduce people to it and prepare them now
because you're going to be saying their name a lot
this year and people might not be familiar with them,

(01:57:17):
they might not have heard the name. They may it's
a new face, it's a new name, it's a new scheme,
whatever it might be. But when you look at it,
you go, yeah, I better. You know you're you're sitting
around the house going I got to practice saying this
guy's name because they'm going to be saying it a lot.

Speaker 3 (01:57:31):
Well, I think on defense, Joe Bachi is going to
get a tremendous opportunity right now. He's listed as the
starting linebacker along with Zaire Franklin. And Joe was with
lou An Arumo for the last four years and Cincinnati
was primarily a core special teams guy for the Bengals.
I mean, I think last year he only played thirty
seven snaps on defense and he's only made two starts

(01:57:53):
in his career on defense, But he was behind some
really good linebackers there in Cincinnati, so he really didn't
kind of get his chance. But here with the Colts,
you know, Jalen Carli starts the year on IR he's
kind of balance for time with guys like Cameron mcgroan
and Austin a GK, and he earned that starting job.
So you're gonna see number forty eight out there a

(01:58:15):
lot for the Colts. That is Joe Bachi with a
stuttn college at Michigan State. I'm really excited about, you know,
taking on more of an opportunity here and knows of
this defense like the back of his hand. Like I said,
he's been with Loui An Arumo for the last four
years since he broke into the league, so he's been
teaching that defense to a lot of guys that are,
you know, on that first year under this scheme. So

(01:58:37):
I'm excited about his opportunity and what he can add
to the defense. Now that being said, lou An Arumo
is also a big sub package guy, so he's gonna
play with you know, five cornerbacks or five different defensive
back sometimes six, which will then take Bachi off of
the field depending on the matchup. So you know, just
kind of keep an eye on him in terms of

(01:58:58):
his playing time and fluctuate and then on offense. I'm
still excited about DJ Getts. He's going to be, at
least as of right now, probably the primary backup running
back to Jonathan Taylor. Now, right away, we've talked about
this internally. You know, he's a rookie and Sunday is
going to be his first taste of the NFL in

(01:59:18):
the regular season. I would suspect just to hunch or
make the assumption that, you know, right away, he's probably
not in store for ten to twelve carries. That's asking
a lot right out of the gate. I think the
Colt are trying to kind of steal him out. But
you know in college he was a thirteen hundred yard
rusher in each of the last two years in the
Big twelve at Kansas State. Big yards per carry guy

(01:59:38):
and catch the ball out of the backfield really deceptive,
you know, out of the backfield catching the ball too.
So he's going to be a big time playmaker, and
I think he's going to take on a bigger role
as the season goes on. But it's kind of up
in the air what we see see out of him
on Sunday, just because he's going to be doing it
for the first time and there's a lot of trust
that kind of goes into that. So it wouldn't supp

(02:00:00):
to see Taylor get is typical, you know, eighteen to
twenty two to twenty three carries in this game on Sunday,
and then the Colts try to reevaluate just how you know,
up to speed DJ Gidtons is after watching the game
field and then a game film, I should say, and
then kind of reevaluate his role. You know, weeks two
and three and beyond.

Speaker 1 (02:00:19):
First concert you saw at Market Square Arena, Tom.

Speaker 3 (02:00:23):
Petty and the Heartbreakers in nineteen ninety seven.

Speaker 1 (02:00:26):
That's pretty good. That's solid.

Speaker 3 (02:00:28):
Yep, solid, hard to beat.

Speaker 1 (02:00:29):
That is all right, Matt. We look forward to it
coming up Sunday, Colts Dolphins, Lucas Oil Stadium. We'll be
listening to it.

Speaker 3 (02:00:36):
I appreciate you guys be well.

Speaker 1 (02:00:38):
All right, Matt Taylor, the voice of the Colts. We
come back a key component from a basketball standpoint out
for the year. We'll get back into that next. We
were asking Matt Taylor the first concert he attended at
Market Square Arena, the first concert anyone could have attended

(02:00:58):
at Market Square Arena was this guy, Glenn Campbell. The
first event at MSA anniversary coming up of it, it
was September fifteenth of nineteen seventy four, that concert for
Glenn Campbell. And you know, I'm curious what the last
concert would have been at Market Square. If Market Square

(02:01:20):
was obviously closed in two thousand and one, it was
imploded in one. I can't remember if it was two
thousand or two thousand and one because it sat dormant
for a while. It's probably an obvious answer that I'm missing.
The last event there might have been a Pacer game
and then they shut it down, but there had to
have been a concert just before that. What we do know,

(02:01:41):
speaking of shutting it down, Eddie, is there is a
guard for the Indiana Fever who now will not be
part of their game against the Chicago Sky tomorrow night,
nor for the rest of the year. Yep, Chloe Bibby.
I don't know if she's a guard, Dak. I think
she's more of a wing type. Yeah, all for the
rest of the year with the knee injury. Don't know
what the uh details are, Just know it was a
left knee injury for Chloe Baby that she suffered in

(02:02:04):
a warm up before one of their games within the
last month or so and has not been able to
suit up since that. Again. You know, it's funny because
I say guard back of my mind, because they've had
to rotate through ski people with the fact that the
you know, the between Caitlyn Clark and then obviously everything
that's gone on at that position. Seemingly every time Eddie,

(02:02:28):
they try to find somebody to give them balance in
the backcourt or on the wing also, right, I mean
both of those positions. They have just been devastated by injuries.

Speaker 6 (02:02:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:02:38):
I mean Erry McDonald a player they brought in midyear
out for the season with an injury, Sidney Colson, a
player they signed in the offseason out with a torn
acl Sophie Cunningham out for the year, Chloe Baby out
for the year. It's just I don't know if there's
ever been a team and the w that's had to
endure this many injuries. Before October seventeenth of ninety nine,

(02:03:02):
Zz Top played Market Square Arena, Thank you, Laura Steele.
Would that have been the last concert at Market Square
the I'm trying to think of when the last event,
what that last pacer game took place. I'm pretty sure
that was the in the two thousand season. Zz be

(02:03:25):
kind of a fitting closing, I guess, especially like did
you like zz Top, Eddy?

Speaker 2 (02:03:30):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (02:03:31):
I like zz Top. You know, the rumor always was
that zz top was named after zig Zag papers and
Top rolling papers, but I think they've disputed that right.
I don't know what what they were named after or
how they came about of the name zz Top. I
like the fact that supposedly it's because of zig Zag
papers and Top papers. Are you familiar with either Zigzag
papers or Top papers? Eddie?

Speaker 4 (02:03:52):
No?

Speaker 1 (02:03:52):
Okay, are you not you've never heard of zig zag
papers or top papers. No, I guess now it's this
is the vape era, although I'm not saying that that's
an area of your expertise. Regardless, Eagles, Cowboys tonight, NFL
season getting underway. Anre we make on our super Bowl

(02:04:13):
predictions because I forget who'd we have? We asked Stephen
Holder about that earlier this week. We know we've gone
with our three teams. We asked somebody a super Bowl prediction,
and uh, I forget who it was. What are the
what teams are perceived to be the front runner here?

(02:04:37):
Who is the odds on Vegas favorite?

Speaker 5 (02:04:39):
Is?

Speaker 1 (02:04:40):
I believe it's Baltimore, Buffalo, Kansas City? Like in that
or is it Kansas City, Baltimore, Buffalo? Is that the
top three? I know Baltimore is. I believe Baltimore is
the favorite? Really yeah, okay, that's hard to argue. I mean,
they're very, very good. It is Baltimore, Philadelphia, Buffalo according

(02:05:05):
to the sportsbook I'm looking at, and then Kansas City.
How do you rule out Kansas City? How do you
sleep on Kansas City? I mean, how do you I'm
not gonna say rule them out? But how do you
turn your back on Kansas City? Haven't we done this before?
Isn't you know what I mean? I'm gonna go with

(02:05:28):
one of the two if you gotta put you can't
just go with favorites in both, right, Detroit fifth, green
Bay sixth? Yeah, do you really believe in green Bay?
They're the youngest roster in the NFL? No, I get that,
but like, do you really believe in green Bay? Though?
It's the Micah Parsons effect? What about what about Cincinnati?

(02:05:56):
I mean, if Cincinnati is healthy, don't they have to
be you know what I mean? I mean, if they
can just get average play defensively, Jake, Like they were
so bad last year and they didn't do anything to
get better. It's largely the same guys. It's just a
different system with Al Golden, I think you got a
look okay now, But there's always a surprise team, right,

(02:06:20):
there's always one of the two teams like Cincinnati the
year they went where it's just like, wow, they got
hot at the right time and out of nowhere. Right,
what about the Rams? I was just thinking the Rams,
But there's a lot of question market quarterback there, Right,
who do we determined yesterday as they're back up behind
Stafford because Stafford Jimmy Garoppolo, that's right. I mean I

(02:06:42):
don't know that that overly excites you. I'll go, okay,
what about Washington? Is that too trendy to say that
they're going to take a big step here? Like everybody
last year was all in on Detroit, right, last year
was Lions. Everybody was like, oh the Lions. This year,
big step for the Lion. Commanders and Rams are eighth.
I guess I should say Commander's Rams, Bengals all eighth

(02:07:05):
with odds. And then you get into the Broncos, Vikings, Texans, Buccaneers, Chargers, Bears.
Where are the Lions? They are fifth best plus eleven hundred.
I mean you worry about Okay, here's the other thing
to consider. Who is going to be the best team

(02:07:29):
in the NFC South Tampa or Atlanta? Correct? I would
say Tampa. Okay, do you.

Speaker 4 (02:07:43):
Do?

Speaker 1 (02:07:43):
You put Tampa as better odds than Green Bay and
Detroit only because Tampa has a higher percentage of being
a divisional winner that gets home field for a game
or two versus either Detroita. Green Bay is gonna have
to be a wild Card. So do you play the

(02:08:04):
safer odds and go with Tampa. I'm not saying I'm
a believer in Tampa, but just by default and the
way it stacks itself and what that means for them.
I mean a lot of people think San Fran, what
are the Niners? Where are the Niners odds? What are
they showing they are plus eighteen hundred? That's before Washington

(02:08:28):
and after Green Bay? You know what? That seems a
little rich though. Honestly a lot of people think San
Frans overrated and that they're gonna come back down to
earth what they had. I'll say San Fran. Okay, San
Fran in the NFC, and I'll go with you know,
I've already I've already kind of spent my stretch role here.
I'll go with Baltimore in the AFC.

Speaker 2 (02:08:51):
So I'll go.

Speaker 1 (02:08:51):
Baltimore, Sand Fran. Haven't they played in the Super Bowl
twice already together against one another? Yes? And the lights
out one right? Yeah, I mean that's not very original
by me, but I'm just going I'm not sitting here
breaking it down and analyzing it and looking at it.
I'm just there. We go Baltimore, San fran I'm going
Chiefs Rams, and the Chiefs win, you're back on top.

(02:09:13):
It's it's hard to argue that. I mean, I'm not
gonna sit here and I hate to me that I'm doing.
I'm going with where I'm going just to somewhat be
the iconic. I just need to see Lamar Win in
the playoffs, that's fair. I do think hardball is the
heck of a coach that and you know what's funny
is the power of suggestion. I just look at Baltimore
and I always say to myself, like they're going to
be great defensively, I mean, are they like ray Lewis

(02:09:35):
and Ed Reed ain't walking through that door, But I
feel like they are. I just automatically the branding of
the Baltimore Ravens is they're like this this smash mouth,
make your mouth bleed football team. And I have no
idea if that's I mean, Lamar Jackson is a big
reason why they are what they are. And yet that
has nothing to do with their defense. Right, Their defense

(02:09:56):
is going to be really good. They always are. I mean,
that's that's their whole mind. I'm talking about like the
best that they could be the best in the league
They've got Baltimore will be a fun visiting. I think
I'd be a fun home game to go to. Also,
just because I love the city of Baltimore. I think
it's cool. Purple and black is a nice mixture as well,
especially if it's a night game. I'm more in black
tennis shoes today, and you told me I don't look

(02:10:17):
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Speaker 5 (02:10:58):
We are looking phenomenal up here in Castleton. Jake, wish
you were here.

Speaker 1 (02:11:04):
You know what I might have to swing through there.
I've got to go up on the north side at
some point today, so I might have to swing back
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Speaker 5 (02:11:12):
I think that is a very special plan. You got
it right there, Well done.

Speaker 1 (02:11:15):
Thank you. What's lined up for the big show today?

Speaker 5 (02:11:19):
Well all again our latch of the bourbon locks lunas
with tequila shots. Are you having a difficult time selecting
between the Dolphins and the Colts in week number one
at all?

Speaker 2 (02:11:27):
Is it difficult?

Speaker 1 (02:11:29):
You know what I'll say for the sake of the conversation, Yes,
But in reality, I think the Colts are going to win. Man,
I'm telling you, I think they're going to win.

Speaker 2 (02:11:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (02:11:42):
The one thing that stands out to me is how
good Miami starts the season and in a moment they
are so gifted and so talented and right now healthy
at positions in which you need to be healthy. That
is what is my concern, more so than anything else.

(02:12:02):
Like if this were later on in the season, I
think I would have much less concern. Like seven and
four in the first month of the season under Mike McDaniel,
and then things for them kind of go down the toilet,
and obviously that goes as their quarterback injury situation goes,
So that that part does concern me.

Speaker 1 (02:12:19):
I mean, they definitely have I think they're gonna be
a This is going to be a good first test
for that lou Anarremo defense because of the fact that
Miami is gonna want to get their you know, waddle
and heal and you know, get those guys out where
they can they can get chunk plays. But in talking
to Chris Perkins earlier, for example, I mean, they do

(02:12:39):
not have much of a running game at all to
keep a defense at bay. So maybe that means Indianapolis
is able to kind of corral things a little bit
or or keep that inside a box. But that to
me is going to be interesting. But I I just
I don't know. For whatever reason, I think I like
this roster and I feel like, I know, it's been
eleven years since they one an opening game, but I

(02:13:02):
think they do it Sunday.

Speaker 5 (02:13:04):
Well, they need to, There's no doubt about it, because
if we select them on Sunday and they don't win,
there's zero away We're selecting them right against Denver.

Speaker 1 (02:13:12):
Correct with the schedule, with that, Yeah.

Speaker 5 (02:13:15):
You got to start out at least two and one,
don't you with this particular schedule. I mean, you really
ideally like to see them start out three and zero,
but at least two and one, or isn't that a mess?

Speaker 1 (02:13:26):
You would think they've got to win in Tennessee, right,
I mean, my gosh, like the Titans. You you drive past,
as I just did, I think it's still Nissan Stadium,
but you drive past the Titans Stadium and the new
one being developed is right next door to it. So
you see all this construction and building, and it's like, well,
is that not the most appropriate thing for a franchise

(02:13:47):
right now? Because that's what the Titans are is they're
just completely rebuilding and and you know, so you got
to get that one. At the very least, you got
to get one of those frost and then I think
if you get one of the first two, you're at
least two and one. You're keeping yourself in play. That's
the way I look.

Speaker 5 (02:14:01):
At it, no doubt, no doubt. I view that the
same way. So what else has been going on today?
I've missed a little bit of it, but I'm assuming
you guys were all over the place today with stuff.

Speaker 1 (02:14:10):
We were We talked obviously about that. We discussed if
you could go on the road to see any team
at home in the NFL, where would you want to go.
We had Will Power on the show, which was interesting
because he talked about the departure with Team Penske and
when he knew that was going to be a possibility
and flying up to Detroit and meeting with Roger Penske
about it. That was interesting. And then we obviously previewed

(02:14:32):
a lot of the Colts and Dolphins. So yeah, we've
had a lot going on and sort of look forward
to what you've got going between now and six. Who
else is joining the program?

Speaker 2 (02:14:42):
Andrew Kettalan of CBS.

Speaker 5 (02:14:43):
He is the unofficial national voice of the Colts, Andrew
kettle On so that broadcast team has it on Sunday.
He joins us today my chapel coming up at the
five o'clock hour, a lot on the latest to the
celebration if you will, the life of owner, Jim irsay, certainly.
I don't know if you'd call it. I guess it's

(02:15:04):
a celebration an honoring what they're going to do coming
up on Sunday too, it is a pretty big deal.
I'm sure we'll talk to Mike about that because of
his history around here with Jim Irsay and with this
Colts team.

Speaker 2 (02:15:16):
So yeah, a lot to really get after.

Speaker 5 (02:15:19):
It's just so much jake of an unknown and I
know that it's like around the NFL's the same way,
but with this particular game, I mean it could go
either way, could be well or go haywire for either
one of these teams at the beginning of the year here.

Speaker 1 (02:15:34):
Totally agree. All right, last thing, John, first concert you
ever saw at Market Square was what.

Speaker 5 (02:15:41):
Quiet Riot at Nazareth Nazareth opening for Quiet Riot.

Speaker 2 (02:15:45):
Do you know the first time I've ever smelled weed?

Speaker 4 (02:15:47):
Did too?

Speaker 1 (02:15:48):
Do you know the lead singer at Quiet Riot who's
no longer with us? The lead singer at Quiet Riot
is the brother of the plastic surgeon doctor that has
a reality show.

Speaker 5 (02:15:58):
Kevin Dubrow was his name, right, and he is no
longer with us. Yeah, do you remember? Do you remember
any other song besides come On Feel the Noise that
was spelled in a very unique, original and very exciting
for a thirteen year old way.

Speaker 1 (02:16:13):
If you remember hold On? They had what was there?
Hold On? Bang Your Head.

Speaker 2 (02:16:18):
Wasn't that them Metal Health Bang your Head?

Speaker 5 (02:16:21):
Title track of that album album They He had a
Carlos Cavezos had a guitar solo called battle Axe. Do
you remember the song slick black Cadillac was one for
you right there? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (02:16:36):
And that you're getting you're getting into the weeds and
you can almost smell it from here when you're talking
about it.

Speaker 2 (02:16:41):
I know what, right you, good man?

Speaker 5 (02:16:43):
That's that's back when that's back when that white castle
that was right down there on South Street was really popular.
I remember remember that white cow My goodness, the.

Speaker 1 (02:16:52):
Only place open judges shooting each other in the parking lot.

Speaker 2 (02:16:54):
Yeah, exactly, exactly.

Speaker 1 (02:16:56):
All right, John, we'll look forward to it three until six.
Joe's up in Caston, right, you got it all here,
J and B will be there. We will throw it
out to him here in just a couple of minutes.
But when we put a tie on all of it.
First off, Eddie, somebody had asked me if the will
Power interview will be available later. We asked you wait
until six to listen to it after the show, but

(02:17:17):
will that be up on the podcast for him? It
is currently up on the podcast page if you have
interest in going back and listening to it. Yes, I
thought his I thought he made an interesting point. Or
I would say confession, that's the wrong way. But when
he mentioned that Roger Penske asked him to fly up

(02:17:37):
to Denver. He flew up to Denver to meet with
Roger Penske. That would be a very intimidating I would think,
like meeting, like you go in and and and you say, look,
I want to be more than one year, and basically
Penske says, well, you're right, we were only going to
offer you a one year contract. And you're like, okay,
you know, and Roger saying it sounds to me like
you've already made up your mind that you're going elsewhere.
Well I have, okay, Well, and I think it was

(02:17:59):
in amable breakup between the two. Now what's interesting is Power,
technically speaking, is still a Penske employee until the end
of the calendar year, so he does not technically become
an and Dretti employee until January and and then you know, now,
does that mean that he can't go in the shop
talk to the guys that I don't think that. Does

(02:18:21):
he pick his strategist or does ANDRETTI do that? And
in dready likelihood, and I'm guessing it'll be Brian Hurda
because that's who Well, I shouldn't say that, because because
I got to think of who the strategist was for Colton,
because it was not Brian Hurta anymore correct. They moved
Brian off of Colton's cars. They put him on to
it Ericson. Yeah, that's a good that is a very good. No,

(02:18:41):
he was on with Kirkwood. Okay. So and that's the
other question, is you know is Ericson back? I mean
most say that, yes, in fact, no question he's going
to be back. There's some conversation it could be Dennis Hauger,
but I think Hagar could end up now at coin Racing.
What's the night look like for you tonight, Eddie? Obviously
you're going to be watching the game, right yep. I'm
gonna do some prep for our show tomorrow. That way

(02:19:03):
we're all set. I'll probably sit there watch some NFL.
I don't think I have anything else going on tonight.
Maybe watch the Reds lose again if they're playing. If not,
then good, let's win for the rest today, the Reds
lose again. He said, they've lost like ten of the
last third. Idea, it's not fun, Jacob, you knew who's
actually playing pretty well. The Mets, unfortunately, don't look now,

(02:19:26):
I'll tell you who actually is is putting is surprisingly decent,
surprisingly decent of the last since the All Star Break.
The San Francisco Giants. Nope, the Chicago White Sox competent,
competent by White Sox standards, competent since the All Star breaking,
Colson Montgomery. That's right, Pride of Indiana, Right, that's right,

(02:19:49):
and you have we have definitively declared you are the
winner in the Baseball Beer Bet. Right, there is no
there is no question about that at this point. I
don't think that you way now listener chat are not
coming back. So that spot of cal that you got
me from Milwaukee is your payoff? Okay?

Speaker 4 (02:20:05):
Fair?

Speaker 1 (02:20:06):
Yeah, because the the Blue Jays have really played well
for you, Oh my gosh. Yeah, I had no idea
they were gonna be, you know, literally the best team
in basically do you think that I have not one,
but two Blue Jay's hats? By the way, yeah, I'll
jump on the bandwagon here. I've kind of followed them
this year. Do you think, though, that they can close
it out? I do, because there are teams that have

(02:20:28):
these great years and then the postseason comes and they
just it's over. You know what I mean? I do
not no fence to Toronto and no fence to the Reds,
but uh, the fact that the Blue Jays gave up
eighteen runs nine runs each of the last two games
to Cincinnati, in large part because of their bullpens a
major red flag. Like, like, do the Brewers stay like
this and become because you know, the Brewers right now

(02:20:51):
the best team in the NL? Al? No, the Brewers
are the best team in the NL. Sorry, we're talking
about Blue Jays and you switched it up on that. Sorry.
For example, like, does anybody really think the Brewers are
going to stay this way and go all the way
to the World Series? Or don't you think the Dodgers
or the Phillies either one get them in a series.

(02:21:12):
I think the Phillies can get them, Yeah, I mean,
because they they have the experience and there's just a
way in postseason baseball that you have to play in.
I think Phillies got it. Milwaukee, I don't know if
you can continue to rely on just you know, contact,
Do we win you games in the postseason? Just because
that's what the that's their game. They don't hit home runds.

(02:21:34):
They go for contact and they move you station station
to station, base to base. Play, excellent defense. They have
some solid starting pitching, but it's not great, and they
have a super bullpen. I think, by the way, watch
Detroit's gonna win the al I know they they've hit

(02:21:54):
skid marks, but they've they've been. They start out the
year so good and then they've they've just found I
think their most they've been the most consistent. Wire to
wire clubs are in an interesting spot too. My parents
would love to see the Cubs get it done, trust me.
All right, John is up next, Joe's up in Castleton,
and we will be back with you tomorrow at nooning

(02:22:15):
and will power up Chris Perkins as well. Matt Taylor.
Thanks for all for joining us today and I thank
you for listening to Queing Company.

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