Colts vs Jaguars Preview + Early Look Into IU vs Alabama! Casey Vallier, J.P. Shadrick, and Nick Kelly Join!

Episode Transcript
Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (00:00):
It is so funny that you played this, Eddie, because
last night the you know, we got done with Christmas
and everything else, and we went to a movie last night,
and I'm in the car driving to the movie theater
and yes, it's Christmas evening last night, and you know,
you're still kind of soaking in the glow of Christmas,

(00:21):
and this song came on the radio, and for a
split second, I thought to myself, I feel like it's
a Friday and we're getting psyched for the weekend on
the show, except for that I've got to go to
work tomorrow, which is a Monday.

Speaker 2 (00:31):
And then I'm like, no, wait of it. Today is
a Friday.

Speaker 1 (00:34):
So here we are on a Friday that feels like
a Monday, but at the same time, it is still
a Blue Friday, which we will be doing with the
Colts Happy Hour Friday or today, i should say, coming
up later with JMV and then getting set for the
home finale for the Colts, the Colts and the Jacksonville Jaguars.
And the question becomes is this going to be moot

(01:00):
point by the time they even get underway? From a
playoff standpoint, that's not to say a moot point, because
there are still things and we can get into that
that you're hoping to see and that you're looking for
and that you want to analyze, and that it gives
you a chance to truly break down between the Colts
and the Jacksonville Jaguars coming up at Lucasto Oil Stadium

(01:21):
on Sunday. But there are Here's the easiest way to
say it. If the Texans lose to the LA Chargers,
then the Colts are still alive. But if Houston is
to win, here's what the Colts need. The Colts need

(01:44):
Houston to lose to the Chargers and they need to
sweep Jacksonville and Houston in their last two games. Easiest
way to say it, there are still other things that
come into play. Probably the simplest way to say it
is this. And I said this to Scott Swan on
WTCHR on Tuesday night that feels like a Friday when
he was asking me, so, the Colts still mathematically have

(02:06):
a chance for the playoffs, correct? And I said that's correct.
They have a one percent chance at the playoffs. They
have a five percent chance if they were to win
on Sunday, which means basically, and I hate to say this.
We're coming off of Christmas. I hope everybody had a
wonderful holiday. I hope that when you got down to
the fireplace yesterday morning that everything you wanted was in

(02:29):
the stocking. I hope your stocking was full of nothing
but chocolates and winning lottery tickets and an orange if
you're so inclined, and a peppermint stick and everything that
you love.

Speaker 2 (02:40):
And I hope there's no lump of Cole.

Speaker 1 (02:41):
And I don't want to put a lump of Cole
in your stocking a day after Christmas. But basically the
reality is this, Colts ain't going to the playoffs. The
Colts are not going to the playoffs. And I'm here
to say and I will predict, and I don't believe
in I get a kick out of the hole, even
though I just read it off like during a course

(03:03):
of a game, you know, so and so won that
game and was seven minutes left, they had a ninety
eight percent chance of losing. No, they it's fifty to fifty.
Every game is fifty to fifty. If you're on the field,
you got a chance come back whatever. I get all
the whole Yeah, but the X number of things have
to happen. Okay, whatever this team at this point, and yes,

(03:25):
part of it is injury. Part of its injury, I
get it. But at this point they haven't earned a
trip to the playoffs. But we'll get into that. There's
plenty to talk about, Pacers and action tonight taken on
the Celtics will get you set for the Rose Bowl
as well. But let me begin by saying this, on
a Friday, good afternoon to you, and Merry Christmas. My

(03:46):
name is Jake Query, Eddie Garrison, the other voice you
hear on this program. It is Querying Company here on
ninety three five and one zero seven to five the
fan Eddie, A hearty tip of the cap to you,
because and yes, there's plenty to talk about for the Colts,
and we'll get into all that today. But I do
want to rehash or reintroduce the holiday, and you know

(04:14):
I could do so, you know, in a number of
different ways, but let's begin simply by saying this. We
went on Tuesday evening and I had a fabulous time
out at ale Emporium with Zinc Distributing and Mick Ultra
as part of our Mini Hoops Challenge. Awesome folks at

(04:35):
Zinc are awesome. Jim and his group are awesome people.
And Mick Ultra, I mean you're talking about basically, you know,
you get done with the workout, you get done with
the run, and you still would like that evening you
go out and have a beer, Mick Ultra. That's exactly
what it's there for, right, It's the healthy lifestyle beer
if you will, and you know, lower carbs, lower calories.
It's great beer. And we had a ton of fun

(04:56):
doing the Mini Hoops Challenge out at ale Emporium. But
that night I went to the Pacer game against Milwaukee.
And then and by the way, when that rematch takes
place February sixth in Milwaukee, part of our Micultra Hoops
Mini Challenge, we're going to get somebody that is one

(05:18):
of the finalists of our four trips for this in
the Mini Hoops Challenge with the high score that wins
the finals. We're going to send them courtesy of Micultra,
to go see that game in Milwaukee. But after the game,
I went to the game. After the game, we went
to the State Fairground Lights and Eddie I was like
a proud dad, a proud older brother I don't mean

(05:40):
that kind of sceneary. I'm simply talking in the age difference.
I know how hard you worked. You took a couple
of days off for it, and you were telling me
that they wanted to put in and it is fun
when you go through the fairground lights. They have the
kind of discreete elves that are lit up throughout the
course of the fair grounds and you don't realize how

(06:04):
many elves there are. And apparently they this year they
wanted to add the number of elves. And that was
what you were hired to do as a freelance lighting expert.
And I got to give you credit. Man, it looked great.

Speaker 3 (06:15):
You know, I had to take a couple extra days
off lately because we had some lighting issues. That's why
I was out so much the last week or so.

Speaker 2 (06:22):
Ready to be well.

Speaker 1 (06:22):
They wanted to put in a few extra right, didn't
they They need by request?

Speaker 3 (06:26):
Yeah, that and we had you know, Jake, when you
have that much wattage going on and you've got all
those lights, some of those lights are going to go out,
so you have to replace them. So that's where I
come in.

Speaker 2 (06:35):
So you're the guy that shows up with the new bulbs. Yes, okay,
well you did a heck of a job because it
looked really, really good.

Speaker 3 (06:41):
You showed me a text from uh. I think it
was Pat, one of your buddy Pat. He tuxted and
complimented the work as well.

Speaker 2 (06:46):
He did. He was very happy with the work he did.

Speaker 3 (06:48):
So I got to give a good job if you're
complimenting me, because you don't compliment me on.

Speaker 2 (06:52):
Anything, that's true. How was your holiday?

Speaker 3 (06:55):
It was good. It was nice to get away for
a few days, you know. Obviously I didn't do the
show Monday Tuesday, and was able to get some last
minute Christmas shopping in, watching Christmas movies, and then was
able to spend time with a family on Christmas Eve
and on Christmas Day. Which Christmas movies Polar Express, Santa
Claus two, Santa Claus three, Elf, And I think that

(07:17):
was it? Maybe Home Alone three? Yeah, Home Alone three.

Speaker 1 (07:19):
Okay, I'm going to say this about Christmas as it
relates to the Colts. Okay, and I'm saying this half
seriously and not flippantly. But it's taken me a long

(07:41):
time to realize this. Okay, there are two ways to
look at it. And I was very disheartened by the
Colts effort or lack thereof, defensively in particular, and the
way that they just their lack of execution what looked
either lack of heart, desire, all of it, all of it,

(08:07):
and you know under a week ago, I mean just
they you knew going into it, you knew that that
was a game that the Colts needed, and you knew
that the Niners were a team that was coming off
injury that you know, brock Purty's not been healthy all
year long. They've had to go to the backup quarterback,

(08:28):
use them in stretches, they're tight end play. They've had
to go deep into the well on that then come
back with that. You're always worried about McCaffrey for you know,
over use, et cetera. He's a fabulous player, all of it.
And one of the signs of great teams is A
you hit on draft picks when you least expect it,
and b you have depth. And I think San Francisco,

(08:50):
yes we don't cover them to the level that we
do the Colts, but I think San Francisco exhibited those
things in that game. And you look at the Colts
season and you want to dwell on what's not there.
You want to dwell on the things that should have

(09:13):
been laid out before them that are not You want
to dwell on the fact that they're not going to
the playoffs. And I know mathematically they have a one
percent chance they're not going to the playoffs. Okay, you
want to dwell on that. You want to dwell on
the fact that, you know, man, what a year was
going to be an MVP race between Daniel Jones and

(09:35):
Johnathan Taylor. And then Daniel Jones gets hurt and he's
not there, and you want to dwell on the fact
that they have had to go out and get Philip
Rivers and bring him in at the age of forty four,
and what's going to happen with that? There are so
many storylines Yin and yang and I thought about this
last night with Christmas and this is not unique to me.

(09:55):
It's true for virtually everyone. But as you get older
and you move along, Christmas has phases.

Speaker 2 (10:06):
In life.

Speaker 1 (10:08):
It has different meetings in life depending on where you
are in life. The magic of Santa Claus and you
can't wait to tell Santa what it is that you
want for Christmas, and then the magic of it's a
day to simply sleep in late because you don't have
to get up and go to school, and your parents

(10:29):
hopefully are going to let you sleep in a little
extra later, the magic of for the first time being
able to go out and with your own money buy
gifts for everybody. And then that turns into the magic
of simply like coming back home from college or wherever
it is that you live and just being around your parents.

(10:50):
And you don't want to admit it, but you kind
of feel like a kid again on Christmas morning, and
everybody within their familial role takes the same role that
you had years ago, and there's a special feeling about that.

Speaker 2 (11:04):
And then.

Speaker 1 (11:06):
You reach and some of you may have not reached
this point, and it's not unique to me, it's not
unique to most families, but you reach a point in
Christmas where things are just different. There are other things
in life going on within the family, within health and

(11:27):
things like that that change the dynamic of how Christmas
is going to look. It changes who all can get together,
where you're going to do the gifts, how long you
can do it, et cetera. And it changes the magic
of Santa and things like that. But then when it
comes down to it, at some point you reach the

(11:51):
epiphany of the fact that this is a magical time
of year, and it's a magical time of year not
because of all the things that were magical about it
to you when you were first introduced to it, but
you reach the epiphany to that it's a magical time
of year because it's about what you have and not
what you don't, and it's about who you have and

(12:11):
not who you don't, and it's about even if people
are not still with you in the physical presence at
the holidays, they are with you in a magical spiritual
sense and the epiphany of that, and sometimes life forces
you to understand that. But that's the actual true meaning,

(12:32):
beyond the obvious theological base of it, of what Christmas is.
And we can sit here with the Colts NFL season
and we can dwell on what is missing, and we
can dwell on what fell short, and we can dwell
on the fact that it is a season that later

(12:53):
in the season, the magic of what we envisioned it
to be is the first half or the first third
of the cold season, we were all wide eyed telling
Santo what it was that we were dreaming was going
to happen. They're going to go to the Super Bowl.
Jonathan Taylor is going to win Most Valuable Player. Daniel Jones,

(13:15):
even though he is not eligible for it, is going
to be the de facto comeback Player of the Year.
Shane Stikeen's going to be up for Coach of the Year.
Daniel Jones is going to lock into a long term
contract because they found their answer and they've got an
offense that's like the greatest show on turf. That's how
it was when we were wide eyed, still magically looking
for the hue of the red light around midnight and

(13:38):
putting out cookies by the fireplace. But as the year
has gone on, things change a little bit. Certain people
aren't there that you thought were going to be there.
Certain people are not as present as they were at
the beginning of the season. And you have two ways

(14:02):
to look at it. One is to get angry about it,
and then the other is to say, but I'm going
to look at this in totality and I'm going to
appreciate and grasp and understand the true meaning of what
this means as a whole. And from a cult's standpoint,

(14:22):
you look at the season, and yes, maybe it's premature
to do this until they are technically mathematically eliminated from
the playoffs, but you can look at it, and what
you have to do then is say, Okay, instead of
dwelling on what we didn't get, instead of dwelling on
who's not here, let's figure out and let's appreciate what

(14:42):
we do have and where we build from that. And
there is the distinct possibility that that means that some
faces are not going to be at the Christmas table
moving forward. It's still the same football team, it's still
the same franchise. But do you have to make some
changes there or are there some players that they themselves decide,

(15:08):
you know, DeForest Buckner's future. To be honest with you,
I don't know that it's this year, but I think
a retirement for DeForest Buckner maybe, and I'm not saying
like in the next couple of weeks, but it is
possible that that's something that happens with more expedition than
the Colts had initially thought maybe two or three years ago.

Speaker 2 (15:32):
Other players, as as.

Speaker 1 (15:33):
I've laid out for you on Tuesday, there are other
players that you look at and you say, is it
time to move on from that and reshape things and
reform things? Possibly, And there's plenty of time to get
into that conversation, but for right now, there's part of
me deep down that thinks, you know what, I don't
know what's to be gained by sitting here. We basically

(15:55):
blowed towards it on Tuesday, right, So why not just say,
you know what, it's still the holiday season, it's still
the weekend, and you've got the Colts and the Jags
coming up at Lucas Oil Stadium and it's the home finale,
and how lucky are we to have an NFL team?
And let's see what Philip Rivers can do, and let's
see if they can somehow slow down one of the

(16:16):
hottest quarterbacks right now in the league in Trevor Lawrence.
And whether or not that's legit for Trevor Lawrence, I
don't know, Eddie. You've been on the Trevor Lawrence inconsistency
roller coaster bandwagon for a while, right I was.

Speaker 3 (16:27):
I was, And I'm starting to shift the other way,
like I can see what you've been seeing. But to
the last, you know whatever, it is five six weeks
where it's fourteen passing touchdowns and no interceptions. He hasn't
really displayed that. And now he has a competent coach
and Liam Cohen who is just a mastermind offensively, and

(16:50):
they're getting the right pieces around him. Travis E's in
is healthy. I think that's a big role. Yeah, that's
a big part of it. Yeah, and he hasn't been
healthy the last two years and it's resulting in a
lot of press and put on Trevor Lawrence. And I
think Trevor Lawrence is actually healthy too. He's been dealing
with you know, knee injury, shoulder injuries each of the
last couple of years. And now that he's healthy, he's
got a stable offensive system around him, he's starting to,

(17:11):
you know, show why he was such a high coveted
pick coming out of Clemson.

Speaker 2 (17:15):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (17:16):
The the Rose Bowl, by the way, Indiana, Alabama, we're
gonna discuss that today. We're gonna go down to Alabama
coming up at about two o'clock and talk to somebody
that covers the tide get their perspective on it. JP Shadwick,
who you mentioned from Jacksonville, going to join us on
the program today. That'll be coming up in the one
o'clock hour, we'll probably have some pacers discussion as well,

(17:37):
and there's a lot to talk about sometimes, Eddie. I
think on this show we talk things into fruition. Sometimes
we talk things into reality. You've heard me discuss and
I know I mentioned kind of in a passer by thought.

(18:01):
I mentioned in a passer by thought last week that
I had this feeling. And I'm not saying it's correct.
I'm not saying it's correct, but I had this feeling.

Speaker 2 (18:14):
I've just.

Speaker 1 (18:15):
About six or seven years ago. I remember one day
just saying, like waking up literally and saying to myself,
you know, I feel like the NFL is getting this
fatigue factor for people. This was like it might have

(18:36):
even been eight years ago when I felt this, eight
or nine years ago.

Speaker 2 (18:39):
It's a while ago.

Speaker 1 (18:41):
I'm like, I feel like the NFL has this fatigue
factor and that all of a sudden, kind of like
hard alcohol, if you drink too much heart alcohol, You're like, no,
I'm good, I'm fine, and then all of a sudden, boom,
it hits you like all at once, and it was
like that it was like this. It wasn't a gradual thing.

(19:02):
It was an instantaneous societal epiphany that the NFL ten
or so years ago had this fatigue factor, and I
began thinking it, and I remember saying on the radio
exactly that, and literally within six months, the NFL caught

(19:23):
itself in the middle of a web of societal discussion
and political discussion and this crossroads of all this stuff,
and the Thursday night games were not very good, and
they were still not on streaming but on regular cable,
and it was just everywhere, and literally you started hearing
this conversation with people of like, man, I don't know

(19:45):
what it is, but my interest level in the NFL
has dipped. This was like a decade ago. Now it
has come back and come back full throttle. I think
it's probably healthier now than it's ever been. But I
remember feeling that in what I was feeling was it
was such an obvious thing within the just in the air,

(20:06):
that you couldn't help but feel it.

Speaker 2 (20:07):
And so that's how I even noticed it.

Speaker 1 (20:11):
You now have for me the next thing that I've
had this feeling about, and I don't know that it's
going to like the NFL did at that time. And
again I want to make clear the NFL has more
than come back from that dip that it suffered.

Speaker 2 (20:25):
It's more than comeback.

Speaker 1 (20:27):
But the the feeling in the air that I the
scent that I just looked around and thought, Am I
the only one who's noticed this? And I mentioned it
last week? And I can't remember if Eddie you were
here or it was one of the days that you
were doing the lighting stuff. But I had this weird feeling.

(20:48):
And it's not just because we live in Indiana and
I know Purdue is I think the best team in
college basketball, but certainly a top five at the you know,
if you want to point out rankings whatever else, Michigan's
very good. I get it, and they're in our market.
I get it. But the big sports story collegiately speaking

(21:10):
in the last three months in central Indiana is clearly
that of Kurt Signetti and the Indiana Hoosiers and i
U football becoming the best program in the country. Not hyperbole,
they're in fact, at least as of right now. Now
it changes from me, but they are the number one
seed of every team in Division one College athletics that

(21:33):
has a football team, every school that has a football
team in Division one that has an opportunity to get
to the College Football Playoff. Of all of them, only
one can be ranked number one, and it's your Indiana
fight and Hoosiers. And maybe it's for that reason. In
Indiana primarily a basketball school. Branch McCracken, Everett, Dean, Marv Huffman,

(21:55):
Bob Knight, all of it, Tom Crean and now of
course a new head coach and new look. But Indiana
has always been a basketball school. I but and now
all of a sudden, all the IU fans, everything's about
why not Indiana from the football side of things, right?
And I began to wonder, and maybe that's what biased

(22:18):
me here, But I felt this shift that's happened for
like the last five to seven years. And we were
naive to it because we live in central Indiana and
we have Indiana and Purdue and for that matter, Butler
and you know, all the different schools here in the
area that are big time programs right and have had success.

(22:42):
But I began to feel like there was this shift
getting away from the enthusiasm, the passion for college basketball,
and that college basketball's the interest level from a fans
standpoint was dipping and college football was surging and maybe
a biased because of the Indiana factor, but I don't
think so. I think nationwide this is becoming a thing.

(23:06):
And as I'd mentioned last week, if you look at
the the prime era of college basketball, you know John
Wooden was in LA and getting players from New York.
And yes, I mean you can say what you want
about how those players were acquired.

Speaker 2 (23:22):
I get it.

Speaker 1 (23:23):
You know, Al McGuire was a colorful personality. Dean Smith
was this legendary long standing coach coming off of Frank
McGuire at North Carolina. Bob Knight was this polarizing figure
at Indiana. Jim Beheim was this quirky old curmudgeon that
before that was this math science wizard that came up
with this brilliant zone that nobody could figure out. John

(23:47):
Thompson was a larger than life figure that wore the
towel over his shoulder, and Louis Carnaseca wore a sweater.
And then John Thompson and Louis Carnaseca when they were
ranked one and two, John Thompson open up, opened up
his Sport Coaches show that he had on the Carna
seca sweater and Guy Lewis had a towel that he
threw out on the floor against Scooter McCrae, and Jerry
Tarkanian had a towel that he chewed on the sidelines.

(24:09):
And there were colorful characters and personalities and dynamic ebb
and flows of college basketball, and this program's cheating and
this program's not and everything else in the final fours
and all of it, and it's been and still is.
But it's been March Madness, the krem de la creme.
But all of a sudden it seemed to me seemingly

(24:30):
overnight that I thought about it, And I'm like, North
Carolina's basketball coach is a legacy who's a nice guy,
but there's nothing about him that jumps out, and you
wonder how long he's going to be there. And Kentucky's
basketball coach is a legacy who's a nice guy, but
there's nothing about him that really jumps out, and you
wonder how long he's going to be there. And Louisville's

(24:53):
head coach is a quirky guy and he's a little
in your face, and I like him, and you think
that he's going to be there for a while, but
you also wonder if he's going to wear out on people.
And Kansas's head coach has had like health challenges, and
you wonder how long he's going to be there now,
even though he's a fabulous coach and a good dude
and all that. But this latest news in college basketball

(25:16):
Baylor signing a player in the middle of the year
that was a draft pick in the NBA who had
not yet played a college game because he was coming
from overseas. And now he's been drafted into the NBA.
But even with an NBA team having his draft rights,
he decides that he wants to instead go to college
and the NCAA clears it. And I jokingly said, like

(25:40):
a month ago, I jokingly said, what's going to stop this?
Eventually from Romeo Langford saying you know what, I got
three years left in Indiana or Steph Curry saying I
got a year left to Davidson or Janis saying I
got four years. I can go play a Marquette on

(26:01):
Tuesdays and Thursdays and play for the Bucks on Saturday.

Speaker 2 (26:05):
And that seemed ludicrous.

Speaker 1 (26:08):
But the fact that the NCAA now and I get
this in today's day in free market enterprise of name
image likeness and in other sports we've been seeing this forever.
I don't damn the players for it, I don't damn
the universities for it. But college basketball as we know
it today looks different than the magic of college basketball

(26:31):
when you were sitting by the tree waiting for your
parents to wake up to unpack the magic of Christmas.
Things change, father time is undefeated, Things evolve, things grow,
and it's about finding the magic within it that gave
you that magic from the get go that made you
fall in love with the idea and the concept of something.

(26:52):
But it feels like college basketball now with this literally
instantaneous change, this sudden like boom in terms of this,
and you could see it coming, don't get me wrong.
But when they now clear for a guy who had
been in the NBA draft and now he is instead

(27:12):
of the NBA draft, he's going to go into college
and how long is he going to be there? And
what happens if what happens if on March first, the
team that drafted a player says, you know what, we
do want that guy, after all, you're right, We're going
to give you X amount of dollars, and boom, he
signs and now they need him, and they guarantee him
a starting spot in the NBA and the EBB and

(27:32):
flow of the players coming and going with that or
knowing where they're going, or understanding or trying to predict
or grasp the likelihood that they are going to be
staying in a program. It feels to me like that
is absolutely a to the nose punch to the popularity

(27:54):
of college basketball. People will eventually, as we do, figure
it out out, and once the shock is overcome, I
think people will come back to the table and be like,
you know what, it just looks different, but the magic
is still the same. But for right now, it is
a jolt to the system, a jolt to the system
for college basketball, and I think it could have serious

(28:17):
implications on the popularity and the revenue of that sport,
at least in the short term versus long But when
we come back we mentioned it the Colts on Sunday,
could they actually be going out in what would then
be an exhibition game? And how does that impact one
of the most important positions on the field. I'll explain

(28:37):
what I'm talking about on the other side. JP Shadwick
down in Jacksonville, coming up top of the hour. It
is a Friday Merry Christmas edition Query company here in
ninety three five one h seventy five to the fan.

Speaker 2 (28:48):
Eddie.

Speaker 1 (28:48):
In terms of last night, I know you mentioned that
you watched several holiday movies. Yes, what was the best
Christmas gift you got?

Speaker 3 (28:58):
By the way, I got a new phone? Oh really,
that was the only gift I got.

Speaker 2 (29:03):
Now, what do you mind me asking? What phone?

Speaker 3 (29:07):
The iPhone seventeen Promax.

Speaker 2 (29:11):
There you go, and that has the Now, now that's different.
What did you have before that?

Speaker 3 (29:15):
I think the thirteen?

Speaker 2 (29:17):
So what's what have you noticed? Is the major difference?
And let me give you this heads up.

Speaker 1 (29:21):
By the way, I'm assuming with the new iPhone seventeen
Imax that you have right that that phone I'm assuming
automatically puts in. And everyone says this every time they
do the update, because it becomes new and you're unfamiliar
with it. But I cannot be the only one that

(29:41):
feels this way. I cannot be the only one that
feels this way. The new update on the iOS or
whatever it's called on the iPhone, I think I'm on
twenty six point one or whatever it is, is terrible.
Everything's the opposite of your muscle memory. And I know
that eventually you get used to it. It's like I said,

(30:01):
today is about like the adjustment of expectation Friday right,
all of it, but but also like videos freeze now
and I all kinds of but like never be never,
And I did not intentionally upgrade to it.

Speaker 2 (30:17):
My phone did it automatically.

Speaker 1 (30:18):
The magic of the night, like like little elves came in,
like the ones that you like, the Fragrouns, and they
did it for me. Yeah, so what is different about
your phone than the one you previously had.

Speaker 3 (30:28):
There's some like Apple Intelligence stuff in here. I don't
fully know. I haven't really Apple Intelligence. Yeah, like it's
like Apple AI essentially.

Speaker 2 (30:37):
Okay, so you're you're you got a new phone that
costs people jobs. That's cool.

Speaker 3 (30:42):
I don't know if it did or not.

Speaker 2 (30:44):
Any other distinctive differences that you.

Speaker 3 (30:46):
Camera qualities improve it.

Speaker 2 (30:49):
I've also noticed this.

Speaker 1 (30:50):
Everyone talks about how on my phone you need to
get the new phone because it's got a better camera,
and I said, my phone is perfectly sufficient. My phone.
The camera on my phone has like I kid you not.
I notice now the pictures once I take them they're
like they come in grainier, and I think that this
is another one of those things where they're doing that intentionally.

(31:12):
They're making me have to go get the new phone.
But either way, last night, from a sports viewing standpoint,
did you opt for NBA or NFL?

Speaker 3 (31:22):
I didn't opt for a lot of sports viewing yesterday, understandable.
I think I watched it bit of the Commanders and
the Cowboys. I watched briefly a little bit the tail
end of the Broncos and the Chiefs game, and then
maybe a series or two of the Vikings and the Lions.

(31:43):
And I saw the thunder loose to the Spurs a
little bit of that one, and then Calves and the
Knicks to start the day. But I didn't watch them
for a long periods, like five ten minutes maybe each.

Speaker 1 (31:54):
I, by the way, in the Quarrying Company Fantasy football
league in which Chicago's Pizza is, I think probably going
to win the league, yeah, which is funny because the prize,
of course, the coveted prize that everybody wanted was the
you know, gift cards.

Speaker 2 (32:06):
To Chicago's Pizza.

Speaker 1 (32:08):
But the I'm in, I think the seventh place game,
the third place game. This is my complaint with fantasy
football in general this time of year and the challenge
of it. Okay, I had and yeah, I mean I
my team has like literally middle of the pack. But
I I was conscientious enough to go in and look

(32:30):
at my roster and I'm like, and nobody cares about
your fantasy team, I realized, but people can relate to this.
And the running back, one of the running backs that
I was going to start, was doubtful. So I went
literally and dropped somebody who had been placed on ir
like on Monday, and picked up a new running back.
And it was a running back for Washington. And I

(32:51):
have Washington's the back yesterday that was so good for them,
you know, cross key merit. I have him, I've had
them all year. But he was injured, so I went
with the guy that was going to fill in for him. Well,
that guy then gets listed is out like right at.

Speaker 3 (33:06):
The kick Chris Rodriguez.

Speaker 2 (33:08):
Yes, yeah, there was no indication of that none illness.
It's going around.

Speaker 1 (33:14):
I mean, come on, right, So now I have a
guy that is you know, literally you didn't know he
was out until like the time in which you can't
do anything about it. Yep, and that's one of the
frustrating things about fantasy football at this point in the year.
But there are so many uncertainties and questions in general.
So let's get to the questions of what it means

(33:37):
for the Colts and their postseason chances. When you are
getting set on Sunday to go to Lucas Oil Staium
and watch the game, and hopefully you're going to swing
by the Slippery Noodle for the pregame tailgate, but it
is possible that you are going in and seeing a
game that does not impact the Colts playoff chances. Because

(34:02):
the way it is, what the Colts need to get
into the playoffs, they need to win out and they
need to begin they need Houston to lose their final two.
So if Houston beats the LA Chargers, then the Colts.

Speaker 3 (34:19):
Are out, correct, Eddie, I believe so.

Speaker 1 (34:22):
Yes, Even then tiebreakers come into play if everything falls
their way. But as it stands right now, that's where
things are. If the Colts sit back tomorrow and watch
Houston win in Los Angeles against the Chargers. If Houston

(34:45):
wins that game, Colts are out. Does Philip Rivers start Sunday?
If that's the case.

Speaker 2 (34:50):
That is the other great question, and I would think, no,
don't you.

Speaker 3 (34:57):
Would It be hard to go from planning all week
with Philip Rivers as your starter to pull in the
rug on Saturday night or Sunday morning to hey, we're
going to start Riley Leonard.

Speaker 1 (35:09):
I think Philip Rivers may start, and I think it
might be smart for him to start. And when they
play Houston in Houston in the final week of the season,
I think even if the Colts are eliminated altogether, I

(35:34):
think it's possible Philip Rivers may start, and I think
it might be smart for him to start. And I've
heard people say, why not go with Riley Leonard, He's
the future. I don't know that he is. He's not
the future in terms of certainly a starter, and he

(35:54):
may not be the future in terms of their backup.
He is a guy that they put on the roster
because you maybe you feel like three years from now,
he could be a guy that you know you have
some things to develop from him, and that you didn't
expect to have to call his number or even have
him in discussion this early. But there is a very
specific reason why I think it might be in the

(36:17):
best interest of the Colts to start Philip Rivers for
two more games. Crazy as that sounds, and I'm not
saying it even happens, but there might be a reason
why it's in their best interest. And I'll explain that
to you and lay it out for you next. Jake Query,
Eddie Garrison Query Companies. The name of the program here

(36:39):
are ninety three five one oh seven five the Fan.
Merry Christmas to all of you or whatever it may
be that you celebrate. Hope you had a fabulous Christmas.
And if you are out and about returning gifts, doing
whatever it may be, and you are including us in
your day to day, I thank you for that.

Speaker 2 (36:57):
Okay, Boxing day? What's that?

Speaker 3 (36:58):
Happy Boxing Day?

Speaker 2 (36:59):
Do you know what that means?

Speaker 3 (37:00):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (37:03):
I used to think it meant like people were going
out and punching each other.

Speaker 3 (37:07):
Of course you did.

Speaker 2 (37:09):
You're boxing everything up and taking it back.

Speaker 1 (37:11):
That's a British and the Brits and then the Canadians
followed that up and then we of course, you know, said,
oh that sounds cool. But does boxing day now just
mean that you've got to go over to fresh Market
and return everything on Amazon? Is that what that means, yeah,
I don't know. That's a great question. After the San
Francisco game, I found it fascinating to watch the miked

(37:34):
up version with Philip Rivers. And you know, when Philip
Rivers threw his first touchdown and he's on the field
and he's doing that gyrating dance he was doing, and
it is fun and it is amusing to hear him,
you know, the Dad gummets and all that. I mean,
it's it's good stuff. After the game though, when he

(37:55):
was talking to John Lynch, he says, not man, I
feel good, I feel great.

Speaker 2 (38:00):
I missed it. I feel great out there.

Speaker 1 (38:02):
And that's a guy at forty four that is coming
off of the street. He's not been doing. I mean,
I'm sure he's been doing conditioning, but there's nothing like
NFL conditioning that you've got to do. That's a guy
in Philip Rivers. Keep in mind that for four years
now has been eating not NFL chef cuisine. I mean,

(38:23):
I don't know that people realize the Pacers locker room,
you know, and the Colts.

Speaker 2 (38:32):
I mean, they have.

Speaker 1 (38:34):
Both in the facility and on game day, at least
for the Pacers standpoint, they have a kitchen there with
chefs on staff that literally for every player, they know
what that player's body, that they're blood type, what they
best feed off of. Pardon the pun et cetera, custom

(38:54):
made for every player to put every player in the
maximum shape and condition. And Philip Rivers is feeling good
without even any of that benefit. Therefore, if you look
at the quarterback situation of the Colts moving forward, I
believe firmly that the Colts' best option at quarterback for

(39:19):
the twenty twenty sixth season, meaning next season, their best
option at quarterback is Daniel Jones.

Speaker 2 (39:28):
And that's Daniel Jones coming off of a mended Achilles tendon.
We don't know.

Speaker 1 (39:37):
His level of effectiveness and mobility, but we know that
Anthony Richardson's going to be in a contract year. Anthony
Richardson has been very inconsistent. Anthony Richardson, there's question even
about his vision in general, literally and figuratively. And Anthony Richardson,

(39:58):
there is question about the relationship that Shane Stikeen or
the trust is a better way of saying it. Shane
Steiken has in him. They can't go and draft a quarterback.
They can, but we know that it's going to be,
at the best case scenario, a second round pick, and

(40:18):
we know, I mean the Colts swung and missed on
taking a quarterback in the top five and didn't put
the right pieces or steps around him or handle it. Then,
So how do we anticipate they're going to do so?
If it's a second round pick, Daniel Jones gives them
the most long term stability. If they can sign him,

(40:43):
maybe to a two year, proven deal, they're going to
get him at less money than what it would have
cost him if Daniel Jones had not gotten hurt and
the Colts right now were standing at an Yeah, I
don't think that anybody was anticipating that at this point
in the year the Colts were going to be thirteen
in two or twelve and three. But let's just say,

(41:03):
let's say right now they were eleven. They're eleven and
four and Daniel Jones is healthy and he's still playing. Yeah,
he started to regress a little bit, and Pittsburgh did
expose a little bit about what you do to get
him uncomfortable. But if all of those things were true,

(41:24):
he was about to sign a three to four year,
thirty five million per year contract I would assume if
you franchise tag him, it's going to be extremely costly.
Kevin's pointed that out, Kevin Bowen, But if you sign
him to a two year deal right now, I would
think you can get him at a much more economic
price tag than you would have in the situation I

(41:48):
just laid out. So you bring him back, But you say,
we believe that Daniel Jones, when he comes back in,
we want to make sure that we're giving him time
to ease back into the water. We're going to give
him time to make sure that the achilles is healthy,
to make sure that he is in rhythm, to make

(42:10):
sure that his timing is there, all of those things.
And the way that we're going to do that is
we are going to and yes, there are many that
say Ralph Rief, who knows this stuff better than anybody
in my opinion, said on this show he believes that
Daniel Jones may actually be creating a lot of optimism

(42:31):
by May and then by say September could be ready
to go. But that again is not having been out
there getting and yes, Philip Rivers just showed you can
get in there with feel and timing and get that,
but getting into the playing shape.

Speaker 2 (42:47):
It's going to take a while.

Speaker 1 (42:48):
So based on all of that, is it in the
cult's best interest to start Philip Rivers for the next
two weeks because the fact that you believe there is
the possibility that you bring him back next year if

(43:08):
he wants, He feels great, He's missed it, he loves
being out there. The juice is flowing for Philip Rivers.
And Philip Rivers knows and Shane Steiken knows, and Chris
Ballard knows that if you bring back Philip Rivers, you
are not bringing him back with the assumption that you

(43:29):
are going to be starting him beyond, say, two to
four games next year. So you get him at you
pay him a minimum amount of money or whatever the
VET minimum is, and Rivers probably would be like, Hey,
you know what, chance to stamp myself back into the
Hall of Fame and pick up a little extra cash.

Speaker 2 (43:44):
Cool, let's do it.

Speaker 1 (43:46):
Good motivation for the kids I coach in high school
football to see what I'm doing. So you start him
these last two games to continue his reacclimation of timing
and familiarity with reps with my Michael Pittman and with
Tyler Warren and with Jonathan Taylor and Alec Pearce knock
on wood and hope that Alec Pierce comes back, But

(44:09):
is it in their best interest to do that regardless
of outcome this year because of the possibility that Philip
Rivers is going to be your starting quarterback for one
to three games to start next year before he hands
the keys back over to.

Speaker 2 (44:27):
Daniel Jones. That is breaking news, Eddie.

Speaker 3 (44:34):
Yes, Sir, Colts out on the practice field currently. This
is from James Boyd on the injury report this week.
It's been two estimated practices. It was a walkthrough on
Wednesday for the Indianapolis Colts. They did not practice yesterday
with it being Christmas. He did not see DeForest Buckner
dealing with that neck injury that he just returned on
Monday against San Francisco from on the practice field today,

(44:56):
which means, if it is true that he did not
practice in a limited capacity today, he was an estimated
DNP on Wednesday, Thursday and Friday. Not looking good for
DeForest Buckner for Sunday's game if that's the case.

Speaker 2 (45:11):
And I'm telling you.

Speaker 1 (45:15):
Keep an eye on the long term prospect of DeForest
Buckner as a cult and the fact that DeForest Buckner is.

Speaker 2 (45:28):
Fabulous player.

Speaker 1 (45:30):
And by all account from what I can tell, fabulous teammate,
fabulous leader. DeForest Buckner has been since the time he
was acquired by the Colts, he has been everything that
you would want. He has been the consummant pro. He's
been the one guy on that defensive line that you

(45:50):
could count on game in and game out, and the
leader and a good dude all the way around. Nothing
but good things to say. But also would not surprise
me if the Forest Buckner looks at it and says,
I now, not once, but twice have had to go
to Europe for stem cell research. I am dealing with

(46:10):
a neck injury. And since the Indianapolis Colts have acquired me,
I've won a playoff game. It would not surprise me
at all. If let me rephrase that, surprise me. Maybe
wouldn't shock me though, if the forest Buckner, maybe not

(46:31):
this year, but just eventually prematurely said that that's it.

Speaker 2 (46:39):
More news from Eddie Garrett.

Speaker 3 (46:40):
On the Indiana Pacers side of things, Jake, they have
signed Micah Potter, former stand out with the Wisconsin Badgers.
In a subsequent move, Slash moves. James Wiseman's ten day
contract has expired and they have waived Garrison Matthews.

Speaker 2 (46:58):
Really kay, that surprises me little bit. So what does
that mean for James Wiseman.

Speaker 3 (47:03):
Uh, he is back out on the open market.

Speaker 1 (47:06):
Oh so okay, So you're saying James Wiseman the ten
day contract.

Speaker 2 (47:11):
They did not pick that back up, is what you're saying. Correct.

Speaker 1 (47:15):
By the way, this is the only thing I can
tell you. Do you know what you get if you
combined their newest signing, Micah Potter with the shoulder area
of Jay.

Speaker 2 (47:26):
Huff, you get one Harryman Harry Potter. Yeah, that's what
you get. Yeah. See how I do that? Yeah, and
then they can and you would think they would play
for the Wizards.

Speaker 1 (47:37):
Right, that's what I do. I'm here all week. Did
you get ahold of JP? Yes, Sir JP shatterick Jags
dot cos I don't know if he's in town meeting
all the single ladies.

Speaker 2 (47:50):
Right.

Speaker 1 (47:50):
Well, have to catch up on that, right, Yeah, find
out find out if Santa brought him game for Christmas.
JP from Jacksonville Jaguars dot Com joins us next inadvertently
when we were discussing with our friend JP Shadwick down
in Jacksonville before the Colts and Jags were playing in
Round number one.

Speaker 2 (48:08):
Down in Jacksonville.

Speaker 1 (48:09):
I simply asked the question if he was a married fellow,
and he said no, and then I believe later he
said something along the lines of like, let the ladies
of Indie know now most of the ladies in Indianapolis
that are single are probably outdoing today returning gifts.

Speaker 4 (48:22):
Right, Eddie and single ladies of Indianapolis, please reach out.

Speaker 2 (48:26):
That's right again, that's our friend JP from the first
go round.

Speaker 1 (48:31):
Now here it is. The time has arrived and this
might be the biggest storyline of the weekend, at least
from the cold standpoint of things. But joining us now
in the Java House Peel and poor guestline Java house
dot com for by the way, Columbia amazingly smooth Columbian coffee.
Also the liquid Hydrate, Liquid Science, Hydration Energy Drink, Wrangler
Energy or excuse me, Hydration Drink and Wrangler Energy Drink

(48:54):
Jake twenty five the discount code JP. Joining us now
on the program, JP. First off, Marry Christmas to you. Yeah,
Merry Christmas. That's that's quite a memory. You guys have
I didn't know ize that makes such an impression on
everyone there, the dulcet tones of JP Shadwick, I mean,
and we we've been anticipating it. I mean, and I think,
to be honest with you, a lot of the single
ladies of Indianapolis have been waiting and circle this on

(49:16):
the calendar. Well, if you really want to know.

Speaker 4 (49:18):
The truth, Unfortunately, I'll be stuck in the studio in
Jacksonville this week. I'm not making the trip.

Speaker 1 (49:23):
Ah Eddie, do you happen to have the breaking news
Sundard by chance?

Speaker 2 (49:27):
Please if you come.

Speaker 1 (49:31):
This just and the reality show that was going to
be JP's Love's Select at Harry and Isis has been
canceled for this weekend. Well, JP, thanks for joining us.
We'll talk to you next year. All right, Hey, let's
get to this. This is clearly Look and you tell

(49:52):
me what has been the difference for this Jacks team,
because this very quietly, JP, this might be right now
the hottest team in the NFL. And they they seem
to be on a different level clearly than they have been.
They're playing their best ball at the best time. What
has been the difference?

Speaker 4 (50:08):
Well, I mean, the quarterback play is the difference. I mean,
he is playing out of his mind right now or
is it? I mean that's the great question. Is it
out of his mind? Or is this the new level,
the next step for Trevor Lawrence? And I think he's
starting to prove that maybe he has taken a step.
Is it the ultimate final step that he wants to
be all the time? I don't know who's still room

(50:28):
for improvement, but that's been the number one thing because
they really haven't run the ball especially well over the
last month or so since we saw you guys, but
he has really been executing in the passing game at
a very high level and maybe not you know, statistically
big numbers games, but big throws in big moments without

(50:48):
hesitation and trusting everything in this offense right now. So
for me, that's that's the number one thing. When you
have everything else going well on defense especially, and then
all of a sudden you have the quarterback playing at
a high level, that's something you just haven't seen around
here in a long long time.

Speaker 1 (51:07):
Getting him playing at a high level, and we're talking
about Trevor Lawrence. Is that based on schematically they have
changed things in more design things to get him in
comfort or is it simply a matter of, hey, he's
getting protected and his weapons are healthy and now he
feels in rhythm.

Speaker 4 (51:27):
Yeah, I mean, I think it's a little bit of
a combination of that. I mean, I think it's more
just comfortability in the offense as the season has gone on.
That's one thing. The verbiage of it. It's long winded.
You know, they're getting to the line faster and so
they have all the presnat motions and reads that they
can do. Early in the season it was sober both

(51:47):
that they were late getting to the line and it
was hectic and he wasn't comfortable. So they eliminated that
snap process so he can think clearly when he's at
the line and has time to manage whatever he needs
to and then just letting it rip. I mean, they
had a conversation about that, he and Liam Cohen did
about hey, man, don't worry about an interception. Don't throw

(52:10):
four in a game, but if you throw one, it's
worth it if you get three or four shots down
the field because of it. So that since that conversation
has been a really different feel for the quarterback. So
I think it's a combination of it. They might be
calling a few things, different guys are catching the ball.
I mean that wasn't happening early in the season. I
mean you laughed, but that was a problem really early.

(52:31):
I think this still lead the league in drops from
all the stuff early in the season. So reliability of
the receivers, confidence in the passing attack, and then comfortability
in this offense. It's all just kind of come together
at the right.

Speaker 2 (52:43):
Time when you look.

Speaker 1 (52:45):
And I'm curious if Trevor Lawrence has discussed this at all, JP,
because and I've mentioned this before JP Shadrick my guest
Jaba House, Peeling Port guest line from down in Jacksonville
when Lawrence was in college, And I think this is
a challenge when assessing some time quarterbacks. He had all
the intangibles coming out right, But if you realistically look,
he's throwing the ball to t Higgins, He's throwing the

(53:07):
ball to Amari Rodgers, he's throwing the ball to Justin Ross.
He's throwing to guys that are at the collegiate level.
You know, a step and a half open on window
and timing doesn't have to be as precise. Has he
ever discussed whether or not that was an adjustment for him,
and maybe even adjustment that was continually delayed for him
in Jacksonville.

Speaker 4 (53:27):
Well, I think there was so much other, so many
other things going on that that was probably the least
of his concerns when he first came in because of
everything going on in the coaching situation here at the time.
Remember it was urban Meyer, and it was all the
off the field stuff. And he had some early moments
in that season, like the game in Cincinnati, I think

(53:48):
week four before the whole urban Meyer thing, right that trip. Uh,
he actually played well and fought back in that game
and used his legs and figured out a way and
I'll said, this is a good step. But then it's
all just kind of melted down around that. Yeah, and
and there is a little I think to what you're saying, Yeah,
you have to be you have to lead guys properly here,

(54:11):
you have to fit it and layer it into windows
down the field. But again, when there's not confidence in
the line or inconsistency in the receiver play, it was
I think probably a little hard for him to just
let it loose. And you know, when he finally got
to the playoffs, you know he took the four picks. Well,
then it's like, we have nothing to loose. Just let

(54:32):
it loose. And you saw I played in the second
half of that game.

Speaker 5 (54:35):
Just let it fly.

Speaker 4 (54:36):
And that's the Trevor Lawrence you want without the four picks?

Speaker 2 (54:40):
Of course, can you elaborate?

Speaker 1 (54:42):
And I know at this point, especially for you, it's
ancient history and it's a book that perhaps has been closed.
But JP Shatterck and I know you're with the the
you know, Jaguars dot com. But we hear about the
Urban Meyer for those that are unfamiliar with it. You know,
the when they played Cincinnati, he stayed back in Ohio,

(55:03):
he didn't go back to Florida with the team. That
obviously created a lot of you know what in the world.

Speaker 2 (55:08):
And then a.

Speaker 1 (55:08):
Photo came out of him at a bar that created
a second what in the world?

Speaker 4 (55:12):
Was it?

Speaker 1 (55:12):
Was there even more to it than that per se
or was it just kind of the lack of presence
if you will.

Speaker 4 (55:21):
I think there was a general lack of that. You
know that those were the big things. Obviously, as the
other moments, there was problems with the kicker here apparently
allegedly kicked the kicker or whatever on the practice field
and some other things behind the scenes like that. So
there was a series I'm guessing of event. I mean,
that seems like it to me. It's not just one

(55:42):
thing that was the big one, and then then it
was pretty much all over from there and they just
had to kind of riote it as much as they could,
and then it became untenable towards the end of that season.
I think he got thirteen games in before they finally
made change. So you know that that was another lost opportunity,

(56:03):
you know, and it just kind of extended what Sead
conn and then the Jags ownership wanted to do. And
then they ended up getting Doug Peterson in here and
actually had some success for a couple of years, two
nine win seasons under Peterson. Then unfortunately that didn't work
out either. So here we are with Liam Cohen and
in a really good spot eleven win seasons so far.

Speaker 1 (56:22):
You know, if you look at the Colts season JP
and yes, the Colts obviously had the quarterback injury situation,
but at the same time they got out to a
great start. You could look back now and say, okay,
maybe they got and they did. They got fat off
some bad teams. Right, if you take out and you know,

(56:42):
beating the Chargers is impressive, Beating Denver's impressive. You take
that out twenty and fifty five the record of the
teams the Colts have beaten. How much of this stability
that Jacksonville has found could be potentially fools gold because
they also have been able to do it against the
meat of their schedule Arizona, Tennessee, the Colts for that matter,

(57:03):
the Jets, although winning against Denver is impressive, but is
there any concern of that, Well.

Speaker 4 (57:10):
They beat San Francisco at San Francisco and they beat
the Chargers.

Speaker 1 (57:14):
Well, I mean, though, I mean the latest streak I'm saying,
I'm sorry, just you know, in terms of.

Speaker 4 (57:18):
I mean, you want to talk about the latest streak,
that's fine, I want to talk about the whole season.
I mean, they've they've done some things early when they
were a little inconsistent against some really good teams, and
then I think going to Denver proved that. Yeah, I'm
with you that some of those teams they were playing
as of late and having some issues with in close games.

(57:40):
Arizona one of those, Vegas one of those they won
those games. They found a way. They didn't beat Houston
the second time because they cave up a nineteen point
leading the fourth quarter, But that changed the whole mindset
of this team that they're never going to let that
happen again. We've heard that here before over the years,
and they've let it happen again that they haven't yet.

(58:01):
And the ultimate proof, I think right now at least
is that they went out to Denver, the number one seed,
the number one defense in the league allegedly and put
up thirty eight points on them, I mean that and
dominated the game. So that's you can play what's on
the schedule, and they're beating everybody that's on the schedule
right now in a lot of different ways.

Speaker 1 (58:21):
Is there another area that? And it does appear as
though you pointed out well, JP, and I appreciate it
that by and large, it's been consistent, right, I mean,
they've been consistently obviously competitive all year long, but this
isn't you know?

Speaker 2 (58:34):
You're right?

Speaker 1 (58:35):
You go back and you look and Kansas City was
in there too. I think you mentioned them early when.

Speaker 4 (58:40):
They went to night football.

Speaker 1 (58:41):
Absolutely, so when you look at that, are there other
areas aside from quarterback play that perhaps have been overshadowed.
That were question marks going in that Jacksonville has addressed.

Speaker 4 (58:53):
You know, there were early in the season on defense, Okay,
how are they going to stop the run? It's totally
new scheme on defense, some new faces in there. Can
they do that?

Speaker 5 (59:04):
Because they couldn't figure.

Speaker 4 (59:05):
It out last season, especially against a.

Speaker 5 (59:07):
Team like the Colts. Jonathan Taylor and I.

Speaker 4 (59:10):
Think as the season has gone along, it was the
same idea, right, Okay, you haven't really played a great
running team yet, Let's let's see if you can go
play a good, physical offensive line and defensively hold up
against them. And they've improved that as the year has
gone along, and that's been really a key to everything else.
If they can stop the running game, then it sets
up a little bit of the pass rush. They don't

(59:31):
have big sack numbers, but they have some pressure numbers,
which is not an official stat, I get it, but
it causes things down the field to happen. So that's
where the takeaway numbers are so high second in the NFL.
Because the quarterbacks rushed a bit. You gotta let it fly,
tip ball pick, you know, So it all starts for
me with the stopping of the run game, and those

(59:52):
guys up front have really done a great job. Devon
Hamilton is back to his form before his back in
three a couple of years ago, and that's a great
for this defense moving ahead. If it's consistent down the
stretch and end of the postseason, they got a shot
to make.

Speaker 1 (01:00:05):
A run, you know they Parker Washington is a guy
that was drafted. He was not a top pick. The
Jaguars have spent resources on the receiver position in the
last couple of years, but Washington and Thomas have very
similar seasons. Statistically. Is one the primary over the other?

(01:00:25):
JP Or is one appear to be the who is
Trevor Lawrence's comfort player?

Speaker 2 (01:00:32):
If you will, It's a good one.

Speaker 4 (01:00:33):
And I'd probably lean more towards If I'm picking between
those two, I would pick Parker Washington because he's the
catch and run guy, and you know he can catch
it five yards and then run for twenty after. Brian
Thomas is the down the field threat, vertical threat, and
you know he had some drops early in the season
and on the inbreaking stuff was having trouble. They've kind

(01:00:56):
of recrafted what he is involved in this offense, and
Denver last week actually put Sutana on him most of
the game, followed him around and kind of took him out.
So Trevor Lawrence like, we got three or four other
guys we can throw to here, and they did that.
They spread the wealth in the running back room has
been big in the passing game too, and a checkdown
game if they have to go there. So it's a

(01:01:19):
full hands on deck situation, I think in the passing game.
But between those two, I mean, Parker Washington's playing the
role of Christian Kirk in the playoff team a couple
of years ago, like the go to guy slot receiver
catch and run gets your ten when you need third
and eight. And he's been really, really reliable so far
for this team, and he's he's good in the power

(01:01:39):
return game too.

Speaker 1 (01:01:40):
Clearly, the again, JP Shadwick is our guest joining us
from Jacksonville the real intriguing thing, and Jacksonville might be
in this mix, JP, I mean, in terms of the
answer of what I'm about to ask you, this year
to me seems like almost more so than any of
recent ILK. And this is the NFL by design, It

(01:02:02):
is the hardest to answer this question, but I want
your thought, who's the best team in the NFL.

Speaker 4 (01:02:09):
The best team in the NFL? Uh kind of teams
are coming up and down? I was I would have
said the Rams. I think, you know, they've got the
veteran quarterback, They've got a really good defense and pass rushers,
and they're really playing some good.

Speaker 5 (01:02:27):
Football right now.

Speaker 4 (01:02:30):
You know, the running game of Buffalo is great and
he you know, they may not have the wins and
lost totals right that everybody's looking for right now, but
you don't want to see them in January. I got
news for you, because they've got some guys who can
bring it. But I think, yeah, I mean, it's it's
tough because the Rams have fallen off just a little bit.
They have blown it. They blew out the Jags in London,

(01:02:52):
so that's kind of fresh in my mind right now.
So I guess I'm probably answering your question. More is
like teams I don't want to see in the postseason.
But if you're seeing the Rams in the postseason, that
means in the super Bowl, So that'd be fine too.

Speaker 2 (01:03:05):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:03:06):
I always ask this question, you ready, Yeah, And it's
a little late in the year for this, but yet
still this year it feels applicable. Give me the team
that JP Shadwick looks at and you see the record
and you are aware of the resume and everything about it,
you are impressed by, but deep down and you're like,
but I still don't know if they're good, and that's
selling them short. But I'm still not I just don't know.

(01:03:29):
I'm not convinced.

Speaker 4 (01:03:31):
I saw him last night Denver Broncos. Yes, I mean
the Jaguars went out there and put a number on them.
And then last night at Arrowhead, the Chiefs third string
quarterback had the football in his hands with two minutes
to go and like, with a chance, and yeah, boat
Nicks can do some things with his legs. And they've

(01:03:53):
done some fine things on offense this year in their
second year with Sean Payton. But boy that I was
a depleted Chiefs team. They had so many guys injured.
Two starting corners were out, a bunch of offensive players.
They're on their fourth tackle I think this year. I mean,
so they they were really down to the nitty gritty

(01:04:14):
and Denver had them stay in the game because they
had an interception tip ball interception, short field touchdown for
Kansas City, and then they flipped the field of a
pump return with the backup pump return, so like that
helped Kansas City stay in the game. Their best drive
of the night for the Chiefs was the final drive
that they couldn't finish. So I got some questions about

(01:04:36):
Denver right now, Okay, I don't know what they are.
I'm gonna get I totally agree with that. By the way, I'm.

Speaker 1 (01:04:42):
Going to give you two teams. I want you to
tell me which one you would be more eager to buy.
You ready, Seattle Chicago.

Speaker 4 (01:04:50):
Seattle's really stout upfront on defense, but then Sam Donald
might Sam Donald again.

Speaker 2 (01:04:57):
It's gonna say.

Speaker 1 (01:05:00):
Do you trust saying and nothing and listen, he's a
great story and I'm I don't know him, but I'm
happy for the guy because he's But but do you
trust him late in a game, in a big moment?

Speaker 4 (01:05:10):
Would you trust him? Or Caleb Williams? You know, I
don't know. That's tough because they're both you know, unproven.

Speaker 1 (01:05:18):
Williams against Green Bay had a pretty big moment. I mean,
he put it right where it needed to be. But
I'm with you he's young though.

Speaker 4 (01:05:24):
Right, young guy hasn't been in there yet. You know,
it's different when you get in the playoffs for the
first time. How do you handle that? And and you're right,
that was a great throw at the game, I'm unbelievable
throw and ketch, So maybe that gives him a little confidence.
So I guess to answer your question, I'm probably I'd.

Speaker 1 (01:05:41):
Probably lean towards Chicago. Okay, let me give you one
other one. Tell me which one of these one old
guard the other?

Speaker 2 (01:05:47):
Is it? Johnny come lately? You more buy Philly or
New England.

Speaker 4 (01:05:53):
Philly's defense man, I mean, they've got dudes, and I
think when whenever the time comes that they have to
run the football, they got the horses to do that too.
So and New England's kind of the same thing. They
get young quarterback and are they really what they are?

(01:06:14):
I don't know. I'd probably trust Philly because they've been
there and done that before.

Speaker 1 (01:06:17):
Fair Hey, JP, can we can I mix in little
college with you because I know you obviously have some
experience in the college game as well.

Speaker 3 (01:06:25):
Some knowledge, that's sure.

Speaker 1 (01:06:26):
Okay, I've done some games college football, playoff. I would
like the outside observation. Okay, college football playoff in your mind, truly,
all things given equal in big moments, the best team
in college football is who?

Speaker 5 (01:06:42):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (01:06:42):
I think the best team this year is it's Indiana.
I mean, they've proven it. They went and won the
Big Ten. They're probably gonna beat Alabama in my opinion,
and then you just keep on rolling. I mean, they've
got the quarterback, they've got everything you want for now.
Is it sustainable for the long run? That's an they're
arguing all together, considering the portal and the changes and

(01:07:04):
the people leaving and all that after this year. But
we're not there yet. They haven't even won a title yet,
So I'd probably say I would have said Ohio State
until they played head to head and then there you go.
I don't trust Alabama at all right now?

Speaker 1 (01:07:16):
Yeah, So, because Indiana and Indiana fans are curious about Alabama.
We know the pedigree, we know the name recognition, we
know Calen de Boor because he was at Indiana. But
what do you what about Alabama gives you pause when
it came and maybe you're saying that more about Alabama
than you are confidence in Indiana.

Speaker 2 (01:07:34):
But what is it about Alabama that is susceptible.

Speaker 4 (01:07:37):
Their run game stinks. They cannot run the football. They've
tried all year, different running backs, whatever, and it's like
the worst rushing attack since I was in school here,
like twenty years ago. I mean, that's just terrible. So
they can't consistently do that. So if you can affect
the quarterback with them, if you get in his face

(01:07:57):
or disguise things on the back end, he hasn't consistently
proven Ty Simpson that he can overcome that. So that's
a problem I think for Alabama because they're gonna have
the big guys up front, they've got the beef, they
can do that. On defense, they're you know, that's fine,
and that they're still kind of that same big enough
team defensively to kind of hang. They should have lost Auburn.

(01:08:19):
I mean, they had the big, long, sustained drive at
the end to win that game, but they didn't put
on a show at Jordan Hair, tough place to play
no matter what Auburn team walks out there. So I
had that game and I just I've got some concerns
because if you can't run the ball when it matters,
you get to lean on a quarterback that is inconsistent
at times.

Speaker 1 (01:08:40):
So what we know is this, the Alabama rushing attack
is very similar to that of the mingling ability with
the Ladies of India by JP Shadick. Precedent's there. History's there,
but not not president right now?

Speaker 2 (01:08:54):
Right, is that what we're getting at?

Speaker 4 (01:08:55):
It's kind of what it is. Yeah, I mean it
was there in the past, but that there in the president.

Speaker 2 (01:09:00):
But that's not to say that there aren't recruiting efforts
taking place to resurrect it for the future.

Speaker 4 (01:09:06):
Right, what a couple of before right now?

Speaker 2 (01:09:11):
All right?

Speaker 1 (01:09:12):
Fair enough, Well, well we'll let everybody know to make
alternate plans for the weekend.

Speaker 4 (01:09:16):
Right, Good luck with that, I you know, unfortunately you
might just have to be a little bit later, all.

Speaker 2 (01:09:23):
Right, JP, I appreciate the time as always. Man, Happy
holidays to you, all right.

Speaker 4 (01:09:27):
Always enjoy it man, Merry Christmas, Happy holidays, and enjoy
the game this Sunday.

Speaker 1 (01:09:31):
Appreciated JP Shaddick joining us on the Java House Peel
and poor guest line.

Speaker 2 (01:09:35):
Really good stuff there, you know. And the college football Playoff.

Speaker 1 (01:09:39):
That's interesting about Alabama because and we're going to go
down to Alabama here in about thirty five minutes and
further that discussion about the Crimson Tide. But the Alabama
not being able to run the football, that is something
that you, at least in the last since the Nick
saban Era did not think that you. I mean there

(01:10:01):
was a time there, remember both Scarborough. I mean he
was like, seemingly.

Speaker 3 (01:10:08):
I thought he was Derek Henry two point zero.

Speaker 1 (01:10:11):
Totally agree, and I think he had a leg injury
actually to be fair to him. But I mean they
just it seemed like they just would consistently replug and recycle.
Six to two hundred and thirty pound, five percent body fat.

Speaker 2 (01:10:25):
Just strong dudes, man.

Speaker 1 (01:10:27):
Yeah, I mean Derrick Henry is I think the world
of Derrick Henry both as a player and by all
account everything I've read, you know, as a guy. I mean,
he is just that guy just salts games for you.
But for them to maybe that does make them very
vulnerable for Indiana because and I know that their passing

(01:10:49):
game again they always have does Alabama historically speaking, at
least guys in space and and open speed all over
the field. But it is it's so surreal to me,
and I realize it's a discredit to the listeners of
this station. It's a discredit to the friends I grew

(01:11:10):
up with that attended Indiana along with myself, and it's
a it's a discredit to people who are fans of
college football and Kurt Signetti and everything else. For me
to admit to and say, it is still surreal to
me to hear that Indiana would be seen by people

(01:11:30):
as the best team in college football and the best
program right now in college football. And the JP's right,
the transfer portal and all of those things that come
into play are going to make it difficult for a
lot of people to sustain, and you can turn things
around so quickly. Indiana, though, has positioned themselves. I'm telling

(01:11:54):
you the Indiana when it comes to the end il
stuff and collectives and school marketing, money distribution and the
acquisition of players and all the things that come into it,
Indiana was ahead of the curve from a lot of

(01:12:17):
schools and they had it locked and loaded and ready
to go. They had a plan on how they were
going to do this with nil money and the way
that they could recruit to it and with it and
everything else. And then Signetti is just on a whole
different level in terms of preparation. You know, there's just

(01:12:40):
I'm not down there. So it's disingenuous to me to
say like I know for a fact because I've seen
it firsthand. But I've talked to three different people that
are as close as you can get to it that say, look,
it's like savant level of obsessiveness of film study, obsession

(01:13:05):
and finding. Literally it's like Indiana, and you can tell
it when you watch them play. Every player on that field.
It has nothing to do with where you've been. It
has nothing to do with where you're going. It has
everything to do with where you are in this moment,
and in this moment for this week, you need to know.
Your job is to watch this square area of the

(01:13:27):
field and make sure that you are sealing off this
square area. And these are the three guys that are
going to try to get into that area, and you're
going to get there before they are. And here's what
you're going to look for out of their nuances that
tell you when they're coming into this area and you're
going to.

Speaker 2 (01:13:41):
Steal it off.

Speaker 1 (01:13:42):
That's a simplified way of saying it, but literally, that's
their approach and it has nothing to do with this guy
plays we had this many stars, or this guy does this,
or this guy used to do that, or this guy
is going to be playing here next year. None of
that about right now. And the preparation you can see it.
You can absolutely see the results of it each and
every week. We're gonna go down to Alabama. In about

(01:14:03):
thirty minutes, we come back back into kind of a
recap of the holiday and the Colts getting set on
Sunday for Jacksonville Pacers and Action tonight as well. But
we'll get back into where the heck Eddie was last
week next, you know, recap Eddie's week last week in

(01:14:24):
just a second here before we do.

Speaker 2 (01:14:25):
So. If you're just joining us on the program, where
have you been?

Speaker 1 (01:14:32):
LGP sends out thoughts and prayers to me thank you
over the fact that the Pacers today have waived Garrison Matthews.
Because when they signed Garrison Matthews to a rest of
the year deal, we had on Tony East right as
that news came out and we discussed it and I
actually brought it up because it was my observation. Also,

(01:14:56):
it was the words of Rick Carlisle on this radio
station when he as his weekly hit with the fan
Morning show that they really liked Garrison Matthews and what
he could bring to the table. And I did think
that he was a player that could have been on
the roster beyond this year when they signed him. And
so yeah, I mean the fact that we talked about

(01:15:18):
it for five to ten minutes the day that he
was signed. In my apologies for talking about the transactions
of the.

Speaker 2 (01:15:24):
Pacers, but.

Speaker 1 (01:15:27):
He I think for someone who has brought in to
be a designed outside shooter, there just wasn't the consistency
perhaps from the outside shooting that they were looking for.
But that news today coming out that Garrison Matthews has
been waived, that is because Michael Potter has now been signed.

Speaker 2 (01:15:43):
They consistently This used to be the case a lot.

Speaker 1 (01:15:47):
I would see this with the Colts, where the last
roster spot or two would just kind of be like
a revolving door of players they were bringing in to
see what they could get, what would stick basically, and
maybe that's what they're here. James Wiseman also is out
Michael Potter has been brought in. Garrison Matthews was waived
and James Wiseman was not signed to another ten day

(01:16:09):
contract with his ten day deal expiring. So Eddie, your
last week we had mentioned it. You did a fabulous
job on the Indiana State Fairgrounds.

Speaker 3 (01:16:22):
Now this was all the Christmas Nights of Lights.

Speaker 1 (01:16:26):
And so you were part of the team that was
assembling and this was fun and kids love this when
you go through the Indiana State Fairgrounds and they do
a remarkable job. They wanted to put more of the
kind of secret and subtle elves to look for when
you drive through, and that was your role.

Speaker 3 (01:16:46):
Correct, Yeah, that's correct, Jake. And of course I got
this role because of the Big Head Federation. Correct had
the big old meeting, you know, at the fairgrounds and
we were going over. Even though I didn't make the kit,
I was still helping out with a lighting, like, hey,
we need to get this lighting here so that I
can show up off how big this fella's head is
and make sure it's the right angle. They were realized
by that, very impressed and were like, hey, we've got
the Christmas Nights of Lights coming on you mind helping

(01:17:07):
I was like sure, why not?

Speaker 2 (01:17:09):
So there you go.

Speaker 3 (01:17:10):
I love Christmas, I love Christmas lights, I love the fairgrounds.
Why not help out?

Speaker 1 (01:17:16):
So we did that on Tuesday evening after the Pacer game,
so we went to I had a fabulous time at
the al Emporium on Tuesday with our friends from Zinc
Distributing and Mick Ultra doing the Mini Hoops challenge at
ale Emporium. Then I went from there to the Pacer game,

(01:17:40):
pacers and bucks and that got away from the Pacers quickly.

Speaker 2 (01:17:43):
Myles Turner that the.

Speaker 1 (01:17:47):
In terms of the ferocity of fan reaction, it was
tempered from the first go round, but it was still there.
But the that was one of those games where ten
point became fifteen, team point became twenty point pretty quickly
in terms of the lead, and it got away from them.
But after that we went and did the State Fairground

(01:18:09):
lights and all the credit in the world to the
folks at the Indiana State Fairgrounds because I've done that
every year and this was the I thought this was
the best year I thought they had. They did a
phenomenal job, and what I like about it is all
of it is Christmas themed and then the touch of
Santa at the end is pretty awesome.

Speaker 2 (01:18:27):
You're welcome, Jake. It was very cool. You said, we
have breaking news.

Speaker 3 (01:18:31):
Eddie Shane Steichen meeting with media following practice for the
Indianapolis Colts. These players have been ruled out for Sunday's
game against the Jacksonville Jaguars. Center Tanner BORDERLINI recovering from
a concussion. Drew Ogletree I can't remember the net. I

(01:18:51):
think it's the neck injury for dre ogle Tree. I
could be wrong there. J T Tuey Molilau injured his oblique,
Anthony Gould with a knee injury. Those players are all out. Sauce,
Gardner and Bernard Rayman will play. Not sure if there
will be a pitch count on Sauce in his return.
And some unfortunate news for DeForest Buckner. He reaggravated that

(01:19:14):
neck injury. He needs surgery. Thus his season is over. Okay,
that's huge.

Speaker 1 (01:19:21):
I'm telling you I have nothing but t leaves by
which to make this prediction or this uncomfortable feeling. It
would not surprise me if DeForest Buckner, who has been
everything that you have ever wanted since he was acquired here,

(01:19:44):
would not surprise me if he just says I'm good.
Spent a lot of money he was here. They had
their chance to build something for him and with him
both defensively and as a franchise. He has won a
playoff game since he came here, and great player and

(01:20:07):
great guy, a great leader, all of it. And you
feel for him, you do, But it would not surprise
me if that leads to a retirement. Quite frankly, I
have nothing to base it on him, and make very clear.
I just I've been around it enough to see when

(01:20:27):
players are fighting through something and where it just I
mean everything from I mean Andrew Locke. I know that
people the timing wasn't great, but it's just when injuries
start to mount and recount, it's just I think psychologically
it's very difficult.

Speaker 3 (01:20:42):
I know it's thirty one and he's thirty two in March.

Speaker 1 (01:20:45):
Yeah, I mean that's depending on the severity of that injury,
and you know, coming back from it, it's tough. We
also did by the way new Field's lights. I do
that every year Christmas Eve tradition. It was very odd
this year, Eddie. You tell me if this is the
case with you, it was odd this year to walk

(01:21:07):
through Newfields. It's not unprecedented. We've done it before. I
don't like cold weather and I don't like snow, but
it's the thirty to forty five minutes of the year
that I would almost prefer it because walking through Newfield lights,
which seemed shorter this year. Anybody else go to the
Newfield's lights. It seems shorter this year, faster through the

(01:21:31):
house and shorter path. Anybody else think that. But and
maybe that's just because you're not. I don't know, like
you're It was like sixty five degrees outside it literally,
I mean it was like fifty eight degrees or something,
and that just it just felt odd on Christmas Eve.

(01:21:53):
But you mentioned that DeForest Buckner will not be playing
for the Colts on Sunday. The Forest buck will not
be playing for the Colts in Houston a week from Sunday.
His season is complete. He's having surgery, something of which
he was to me. If you go to Europe to

(01:22:16):
do stem cell therapy, then you.

Speaker 2 (01:22:21):
What's that? Is Panama or Panama?

Speaker 1 (01:22:24):
Excuse me? He went to Europe before, didn't he? Or
was it Panama both times? Panama both times? I think
you're thinking of Andrew luck And I think there was
the rumor that Manning also had gone to Europe for
stem cell But either way, you go out of the
country for stem cell and you know we talked to
Ralph Reef about this as well. While it is very effective,
it also.

Speaker 2 (01:22:41):
Means that you are.

Speaker 1 (01:22:44):
You know, you're going above and beyond what is immediately
accessible to you here, meaning there's concern is what I'm
getting at? And so that therefore you wonder how many
times mentally speaking a guy goes back to the well
of I want to go through all this again. You
know that that that is a legitimate and understandable question.

(01:23:06):
Another question about who may not be there on Sunday,
Who may not be there on Sunday, and who may
be there in their place? I will ask exactly that
and elaborate with Eddie next. So DeForest Buckner probably a

(01:23:29):
bad way of saying it, but in terms of I
get up again, will he do so? One of the
better Colts defensive players? Is he one of them that's
on He's on the outside of Lugo Soil Stadium.

Speaker 3 (01:23:41):
Right, I don't know it's Nelson, Kennymore, Jonathan Taylor, Quinnilson
and Buckner?

Speaker 4 (01:23:49):
Right? Is it?

Speaker 3 (01:23:49):
Zire Franklin? See the fourth? I can't remember the fourth?

Speaker 2 (01:23:54):
Somebody let me know.

Speaker 1 (01:23:56):
Shoot me a text. Three one seven five two three
ninety two eighty eight. Heck, if you're listening today while
you're out and about, and if you are, thank you,
because I know a lot of people are off today.

Speaker 2 (01:24:07):
Three one seven five two three ninety two eighty eight.

Speaker 1 (01:24:10):
Let me know A if you're listening and b if
Buckner is on the outside of Lucasoil Stadium, and then
if we don't get any text in the next five minutes,
then we can head home, right, Okaya dismissed. Speaking of that,
allow me to ask you this. How many people do

(01:24:30):
you think if if and I said earlier, yeah, things
can look differently than you thought and expect in whatever else.
But there's still you know, there's an NFL game taking place,
to weather, it's going to be good.

Speaker 2 (01:24:45):
We're going to be doing a tailgate at Slipper Noodle.

Speaker 1 (01:24:47):
I mean, there's a lot to be excited about with it,
even if the year is quote unquote you know, kind
of fluster by the wayside. But having said all of that,
how many do you think won't be there on Sunday
at Lucas Oil Stadium.

Speaker 2 (01:25:05):
Are there people that are going to and.

Speaker 1 (01:25:07):
I'm talking about if Houston, if Houston goes in tomorrow
and they beat the Chargers in LA and the Colts
are bounced. If there is no playoff possibility or implication
on that game, what's the crowd going to look like
on Sunday?

Speaker 3 (01:25:24):
How many kids got tickets as a Christmas gift?

Speaker 2 (01:25:28):
Boy, that's a great, great call there.

Speaker 3 (01:25:32):
You know, it's not no offense to Jacksonville. It's not
like they've got a ton of fans that should be
swarming downtown adi Napolis.

Speaker 2 (01:25:39):
Does Jacksonville have fans? Honestly?

Speaker 1 (01:25:44):
I mean it is the most when Jacksonville got and
I kind of like it. I think it's cool. I
mean when the NFL awarded an expansion franchise to Jacksonville,
and you know, everybody was super excited about Jacksonville in
Carolina those first years, well, it was absolutely designed and

(01:26:04):
set up for them to absolutely designed and set up
for them to be successful in the expansion draft. The
same was true of the Las Vegas Knights the in hockey.
But Jacksonville, I think the NFL anticipated that it was
going to be like the next big booming metropolis area.

(01:26:25):
It is, by the way, it is, Okay, Yeah, so
it's DeForest Buckner Jonathan Taylor, Kenny Moore, and Quintin Nelson.
Is that right, Yes? But Jacksonville in general, So the
NFL put a team there, then they had the Super
Bowl there. It is by square mileage, the largest area,

(01:26:47):
the largest city in the United States by land size.
But it's just this spread out multi beach area and
military town. That's cool, But no one's really from there,
you know what I mean, Like, you don't mean anybody
that's like, yeah, I'm from Jacksonville. They yeah, I lived
there because I was in the military, or my company

(01:27:08):
moved down there for a while, or in JP's.

Speaker 2 (01:27:10):
Case, you know, I went to Alabama and then I
got a job there. That kind of thing.

Speaker 1 (01:27:14):
Do you ever meet Jaguars fans? And I think this
is the curse of the Teal, is it not? When
you when you come into and you get a new
team and you base your color scheme on what is
hot at the moment and not traditionally hot, you're in trouble.
The Pistons went to those maroon and teal terrible uniforms

(01:27:37):
for a while. It was awful. The Nuggets went to
like a maroon Delio for a while there in the
mid nineties.

Speaker 2 (01:27:44):
It was awful.

Speaker 1 (01:27:46):
The Raptors tried to do purple and silver and name
their team after Jurassic Park. I mean, come on, what
other teams Eddie used teal in there is like a
primary color?

Speaker 2 (01:27:58):
Who am I by? The Marlins tried to do it
for a while.

Speaker 1 (01:28:01):
Charlotte, I mean, Charlotte's tried everything, right, What do I say?
Give me the teams that who are the most historic
amongst football, Baseball, and basketball in the three major sports.
Give me, off the top of your head, Eddie Garrison,
the five most historically great franchises. Franchises that have the

(01:28:25):
combination of history, competitiveness, dedication and fan base.

Speaker 3 (01:28:31):
Well, you're looking at probably for sure, the New York Yankees,
Okay in the NFL, the Dallas Cowboys okay in the NBA,
the Boston Celtics in the Los Angeles Lakers, Okay, that
fifth one. Is there anybody in the NHL that stands out?

Speaker 1 (01:28:50):
I mean Montreal Canadians, maybe Green Bay Packers, Yeah, the Okay,
I mean we got the I guess if you're if
you're talking about the Boston Red Sox, Okay, the Red Sox,
that's a good one.

Speaker 2 (01:29:03):
If you're talking about.

Speaker 3 (01:29:04):
History Dodgers, Oh my gosh, you Dodgers.

Speaker 1 (01:29:07):
And then if you're talking about fan base and tradition,
laden the Cubs would have to be up there, right.

Speaker 3 (01:29:11):
That would be correct.

Speaker 1 (01:29:12):
Yeah, okay, So let me ask you this, New York Yankees,
Dallas Cowboys, Boston Celtics, Los Angeles Lakers, Green Bay Packers,
Boston Red Sox, Los Angeles Dodgers, and Chicago Cubs among those,
how many uniform and color scheme changes have they had
combined in the last thirty years?

Speaker 3 (01:29:33):
Not a lot.

Speaker 2 (01:29:36):
You know why?

Speaker 1 (01:29:38):
Because teams that are naturally professional and competitive don't need gimmick.
They don't need gimmick, they don't need to change who
changes their what teams are most known for changing their
uniforms like annually, and their color schemes and their marketing.

Speaker 3 (01:29:57):
Teams that are trying to generate, you know, buzz the excitement.

Speaker 1 (01:30:01):
The Charlotte Hornets, right, the Sacramento Kings, the.

Speaker 2 (01:30:10):
I mean, the Jacksonville Jaguars.

Speaker 3 (01:30:12):
For a while, the Seattle Seahawks, they were changing left.
The Rams were the same way.

Speaker 1 (01:30:18):
The Rams, though at least the Rams kept going back
to the they when the Rams would come up with
new uniforms.

Speaker 2 (01:30:25):
They were going back to their old ones. At least
they were going back to their their history.

Speaker 3 (01:30:29):
Arizona, the Cardinals just recently changed their uniforms, as did
the Atlanta Falcons.

Speaker 1 (01:30:33):
Again, I mean Arizona, they're like, yeah, we went to
Super Bowl, Like we got red hot with Kurt Warner
one year. Okay, cool, we had Neil Lomax. People got excited.
That was washing Lewis. Now Washington has got some history though,
but again New Washington's a little different because it was
by necessity right in terms of the change of the

(01:30:55):
name and that kind of thing.

Speaker 2 (01:30:56):
But you get my point.

Speaker 3 (01:30:58):
And the Utah Jazz are in this category.

Speaker 2 (01:31:03):
Okay, yes, yes.

Speaker 1 (01:31:06):
And the funny thing about the jazz, they're the they're
the interloper to this conversation because the one time that
they went with the weird like we're gonna go with
the color trend of purple and silver and green, they
actually that was the best era they ever had.

Speaker 2 (01:31:21):
I mean, I think the jazz best.

Speaker 1 (01:31:23):
Uniforms are the green and gold with the music note
of yesteryear, the the early John Stockton years and Mark
Eaton and that group, Like those uniforms were awesome, and
then they had they incorporated the Purple. Then they went
to the mountaintop with the silver and all that, and
you know, with Malone and and that's when they were

(01:31:43):
probably at their best, truth be told. But either way,
the Jaguars to me, when it comes to the attendance
on Sunday, you would think that this would be if
Houston were to win tomorrow and the Colts are going
into it eliminated, this would be a game that feels

(01:32:05):
like the we're gonna throw The Colts are going to
have potentially a game on Saturday that looks exactly like
what the Pacers are doing all year.

Speaker 2 (01:32:17):
We're just gonna.

Speaker 1 (01:32:18):
Kind of mask guys going out there and put out
roster and tinker around. But is there a method to
the madness on the Pacers side of things? And for
the Colts would it be if? In fact, and again
I laid out earlier, I think still playing Philip Rivers
might be in your best interest.

Speaker 2 (01:32:37):
If Anthony Richardson's.

Speaker 1 (01:32:39):
Not healthy, which I don't think is going to be,
it might be in your best interest to finish it
out with Philip Rivers playing to see if he is
a guy that you need to carry you over for
a few games next year, because you could say Anthony Richardson, Well, Jake,
you have Anthony Richardson, he's going to be healthy, he's
gonna be on the roster, I understand.

Speaker 2 (01:32:56):
But if you've got Richardson starting.

Speaker 3 (01:32:58):
Are we even sure that he will be on the roster.

Speaker 1 (01:33:00):
That's under saying very hypothetically here, right, But if Richardson's
there and you go that route and you know that
Daniel Jones is not going to be ready to take
over full throttle until say midsip. This is if we're
resigning Daniel Jones now, right, we meaning the Colts. They
if Daniel Jones is the guy that ultimately are going

(01:33:22):
to hand the keys to, but he needs a couple
of weeks, it's going to be much It's a much
smoother and intentional and predisposed transition under Philip Rivers. Then
if you had Richardson there, If Richardson is the guy
as the backup for it, and everybody knows he's just
keeping the seat warm and he wins three games, then
it becomes pretty like kind of sticky in terms of

(01:33:47):
that transition that that can be the each I don't know,
And so there are a lot of curve balls that
come into that. But when I was wondering how many
people were going to be there on Sunday, then it
factors in the aspect of, well, gee, are there really

(01:34:07):
Jaguars fans that are gonna come up?

Speaker 2 (01:34:11):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (01:34:12):
Are there are there really Jaguar fans that are like,
let's do it, let's take advantage. We are playing for
seating at this point and getting ready for the march.

Speaker 2 (01:34:22):
Do they have a fan? Maybe they do.

Speaker 1 (01:34:26):
This from cheefs fan Steve Jacob listening keeping Indiana gassy,
driving around the gas truck filling up the petrol.

Speaker 2 (01:34:33):
He's keeping Indiana gassy.

Speaker 1 (01:34:35):
Oh you know he's he's part of that that scam
I've told you about where they have that truck and
they claim that there's the premium, the unleaded and then
the like less than unleaded or whatever, but it all
comes in the same truck. Yeah, and again they claimed
that the truck just has these big cardboard dividers in there.

Speaker 2 (01:34:54):
But I don't buy it.

Speaker 1 (01:34:55):
I mean talking, Yeah, they got dividers that they put
in there in the truck. I think it's you ever
see the guy pulls up and it comes out of
one line. Yeah, I know, yep, allegedly going into three
different tanks.

Speaker 3 (01:35:05):
Yeah, okay, are we even true there's anything in those tanks?

Speaker 1 (01:35:09):
But I love Steve, Steve, Brenda and their awesome dog
Milton the very best. They Brenda and Steve represent the
best of us, the absolute best of us. All Right,
Indiana Alabama getting set Rose Bull. We're gonna go down
to Alabama and we're gonna talk to one of the
primary coverers of the Crimson Tide and find out what

(01:35:31):
Kurt Signetti and his group will be facing coming up
in Pasadena.

Speaker 2 (01:35:36):
We'll do that conversation next now, Eddie, here's the thing.

Speaker 1 (01:35:42):
Indiana and Alabama getting set to tussel in the Rose
Bowl coming up on New Year's Day. And in terms
of what Indiana is gonna see, JP Shatdterck is just
talking to us about that. But I actually feel like
we should almost do like a make good here. Can
you look up for me and you let me know

(01:36:02):
when we have it, Eddie. The song that I just
told you the alternate song to go with for the
introduction here, okay, And the reason why is because Nick
Kelly covers Alabama. He's the beat writer for al dot com,
which is the main Alabama news site. Okay, now, this
guy went to Missouri, one of the great journalism schools.

Speaker 2 (01:36:24):
Right.

Speaker 1 (01:36:24):
This guy has won multiple awards. He's the Sports Writer
of the Year from two years ago in the state
of Alabama. He's part of the Football Writers' Association. He
covered the Crimson Tide while he was in Tuscaloosa. He
won a Rising Star award. This guy is like the
quite frankly, the Kurt Signetti of writers, and so I

(01:36:46):
thought it'd be fun. And every time this guy does
a hit on radio across the country, that's what he hears,
A Sweet Home Alabama. So if we played this as
an intro for him, for example, Okay, you don't have
the song I told you there?

Speaker 3 (01:36:58):
Well, I was dialing up when you were talking to me, Jake.
I can't listen to two things at once.

Speaker 1 (01:37:02):
Okay you so there, there's a song from the doors
called the Alabama Song. And I thought, you know, we
should be different than the other radio hits that this
guy does because he's an investigative reporter. He's won awards.
That's because he goes beyond the pale and the up

(01:37:23):
of the obvious. Right, So I thought bringing him into
something other than Sweet Home Alabama we would be the
professional thing to do and really impress him.

Speaker 2 (01:37:32):
Yeah, there we go.

Speaker 1 (01:37:32):
See now I'd like to know joining us now on
the Java House Peel and Port guest line, he is
not on his way to the next whiskey bar, but
rather to Pasadena. Nick Kelly joining us, Nick, I'll bet
every time you do a radio hit somewhere they play
Leonard Skinner to Sweet Home Alabama.

Speaker 5 (01:37:49):
Right.

Speaker 6 (01:37:51):
It definitely is a common one, no doubt.

Speaker 7 (01:37:53):
I mean, you can't go many places in this stay
without hearing it, especially around brand Any stadium on game days.

Speaker 1 (01:37:59):
So are you impressed by the fact we played the
Alabama song by the doors instead of Sweet Home Alabama?

Speaker 2 (01:38:05):
See?

Speaker 7 (01:38:05):
I like creativity, so like I like when when I'm
presented with that, So I respect that. I appreciate it,
and uh, well done, gold stars all around.

Speaker 2 (01:38:15):
There we go. That's what.

Speaker 1 (01:38:16):
Okay, Well, thanks for joining us, Nick, Happy holidays too,
And I'm just kidding.

Speaker 2 (01:38:20):
Okay, let's get to this.

Speaker 1 (01:38:21):
This matchup is fascinating because you have you know, Calen
de Boor, who obviously at one time was on staff
in Indiana. You've got Kurt Signetti who was at one
time on staff at Alabama. How much is that from
the Signetti factor? I am curious what is the Alabama
fan or you know, media perception of Kurt Signetti and

(01:38:44):
recollection or feeling of connection to him to Alabama.

Speaker 6 (01:38:49):
Yeah, I think there's definitely some.

Speaker 7 (01:38:51):
I think that it's fascinating where I think some people
forget just how I guess significant that he was or
how long he was here for. I think people forget
that as it was a while ago, but I mean
he was here for four seasons, right from seven to
twenty ten. So he was an integral part of really
getting this thing off the ground for the Saban dynasty
and then not only getting off the ground, but winning

(01:39:12):
and a fascinating dynamic too. Was so he was the
guy on the sideline that was essentially the conduit for
the OC and the press box and the guys on
the field. So you'd have when it was Jim McElwain
when he was there for a couple of seasons, he
was communicating with Signette. He was on the sideline, and
then Signette would be the one communicating signals he'd be

(01:39:33):
the one talking to players, you know, getting them coached up.
He'd be the one that if Nick Faban was upset
about some movie, the offense, if he wanted to talk
to someone on the sideline, he'd be the guy for that.
So he really had a big role. And he had
a big role in recruiting guys like mark Ingram and
just you know, coaching up guys like Julio Jones. So
I think people obviously they when they think of the

(01:39:54):
early days, they think of Nick Saban, they think of
the coordinators, But really Kurt Signet was an integral part
of that staff, and I think that folks here are
proud of what he's done since he was here.

Speaker 1 (01:40:05):
This is kind of this is going to sound weird
to ask it this way, because it's one would assume.

Speaker 2 (01:40:11):
But Alabama's different. It's just different than other places.

Speaker 1 (01:40:14):
Did dubor cement himself by getting that win against Oklahoma
or was that not even necessary and needed? How stable
is he as the head coach at Alabama?

Speaker 7 (01:40:26):
I think it was a massive win, and to your point,
I do think that it went a long way toward Okay,
this guy's legitimate, this guy can do some big things
here because he'd won some big games in the regular season,
but in Alabama fair or not, the expectations championships. So
when you're doing some great things in the regular season,

(01:40:46):
that's one thing, But when you're winning big games on
the road, I mean, that was a tough game to
win when you're down seventeen to a good defensive team
like that at Oklahoma at their place. I think most
of us, if we're being honest, wrote off Alabama, and
kalend Boor kept his guy's steady and he got him

(01:41:07):
to a place where they could go win that game
and not just win it, but I mean they were
quite dominant in the second half of that game. So yeah,
I think that that really earned him some of the
people who are still doubting him, earned that respect for him,
got them more on board. And I think that no
matter what happens from here on out, I think it's
a launching point for year three of Kalen de Boor.

Speaker 1 (01:41:30):
Okay, Kalen de Boor. At night, he is staring at
the ceiling and he is worried about what aspect of
his football team that still has not been as consistent
as he'd like.

Speaker 6 (01:41:45):
That's a good question.

Speaker 7 (01:41:46):
I would say, I would say the running game just
I mean, and that's kind of easy answer because it
hasn't really been there, And even when as I give
you that answer, I'm still kind of like, well, it
hasn't been there all years. So like, I don't think
they're at a point where they're expecting it to be great,
But I think that them getting that running game to
a respectable or disserviceable point is something that they need

(01:42:09):
to I don't won't say be stressed about, but definitely
be focusing on because at this point, no, the running
game is not going to win them the game against
Indiana or anyone, but they need some effective running to
happen just to keep defenses honest against the past. But
no doubt they're going to win the game on in
their passing game. But I guess the other answer I
could give you is the offensive line for them, because

(01:42:30):
it has been inconsistent, hasn't always been there. They had
a pretty good game against Oklahoma as the game went on,
they had some good plays and they played well. But
I think that if I'm going to give you maybe
a more nuanced answer, I'll give you offensive line.

Speaker 1 (01:42:43):
When you look at this matchup, okay, and you you know,
Alabama's Alabama, right, And I'm not gonna lie to you, Nick.
Even in Indiana, to me, it still seems almost surreal.
And that's so unfair because they have not one, but
two of the best wins in the season, does Indiana?

Speaker 2 (01:43:04):
Indiana has the best resume.

Speaker 1 (01:43:06):
Indiana has literally not made mistakes, and when they have,
they've been able to immediately overcome them. Okay, what is
the perception what is the vibe you feel from within
Alabama about Indiana and this team?

Speaker 7 (01:43:23):
Yeah, that's interesting because I think last season it was well,
you know who they played or who they're really beaten, right,
So I think that there was some people who are
maybe not buying into the Indiana hype. I think just
when you talk to people around here, there are definitely
more people who realize this team's legit. Now this year,
I mean, this is a real contender and obviously they're

(01:43:44):
the number one seed, but they have good wins too.
I will say though, just because I think it takes
so much time to get people to change their opinions
of just a brand when they're so far away from
it is, I do think there are still some people
here who doubt whether Indiana how legitimate their success is.

Speaker 6 (01:44:05):
And I'm not one of those people.

Speaker 7 (01:44:06):
To be clear, I really do think this is a
great Indiana team, and I'm believer in Kurt Signetti. But
I do think that some people are still slow to
the idea of Indiana being a dominant power in college football.
And I think that's especially the case when you're as
far removed as some people are here in the South.
And I just think in general that most people in
the South are going to tell you that SEC football,

(01:44:27):
in their minds, is better than the Big Ten football.
So I think that that you have to fight that
bias as well. So I think that a lot of
people are thinking that, you know, they're maybe not giving
Indiana the credit they deserve.

Speaker 6 (01:44:40):
But I'm not one of those people.

Speaker 1 (01:44:41):
Just for the record, you know, Nick, it's funny. Nick
Kelly's my guest, by the way, al dot com. He
is the beat writer for the University of Alabama football program.
And it's funny, Nick, because when the whole nil thing happened,
the thought was, and especially for people that are fans
of Indiana, right who'd been just a doormat, Oh, this

(01:45:04):
is just going to make the rich get richer. Ohio State, Alabama,
and Clemson are just going to dominate college football now
because everything's just going to funnel towards that. And yet
it is Indiana, it is Texas Tech and their oil money,
it is you know, Arizona State a year ago, whatever
it might be. It's those programs that really have been
able to utilize this to lift themselves. Do you think

(01:45:28):
this is sustainable for Indiana or for whatever program or
are we going to see a carousel of teams have
a three year window and then boom, somebody else becomes
the hot, big thing because you can't keep dipping into
the same financial well, et cetera.

Speaker 7 (01:45:46):
Yeah, I don't mean to give you a fence straddling
answer here, but I think it's kind of we'll see.
I do think it depends on what you define as sustainable.
Does it mean that you are going to have the
same success every year? Probably not, because they're just so
much parody now. Like the parody that is going on
in college football is fun. I mean, I think it

(01:46:07):
really is fun if you're a fan of the sport,
because you're seeing everyone's got more of a chance than
ever before. I think that maybe the best way to
have this discussion too is look at Vanderbilt. No, they're
not in the playoff, but they were darn near in
the playoff, and they just had an amazing season and
a guy who finished as the runner up right to
Fernando Mendoz in the Heisman a quarterback. So, like, I
think a lot of fans here, you know, set aside

(01:46:30):
the Midwest or the SEC you know discussion or the
Big Ten and all that stuff. Like a lot of
the people here are still wrapping their heads around the
fact that Vanderbilt's a legitimate team now. But what happens
when Diego Pobby is not there? What do they look
like then? So I think that it's kind of wait
and see mode. But I do think that if you
have a good system in place, and if you have
a coach who knows how to build a program, like

(01:46:52):
Indiana does in kurtse Signetti and like Vanderbilt has in
Clark Lee, I mean, I think that is sustainable. And
that doesn't mean you're going to go thirteen and oh
had you know, then get a first round buying the
playoff every year. I don't know about that, but I
think They're always going to be competitive in this era
of college football.

Speaker 6 (01:47:07):
That's all you can ask for.

Speaker 2 (01:47:08):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:47:09):
The all I know about this is when without Diego
Pavia at Vanderbilt, fewer techno parties, right, don't we know that?

Speaker 2 (01:47:18):
Isn't that a given?

Speaker 7 (01:47:20):
Well, it's probably gonna be less of a villainous kind.

Speaker 2 (01:47:24):
Of vander no doubt.

Speaker 1 (01:47:25):
Right, heck of a player, no doubt about that was done.

Speaker 7 (01:47:29):
Diego's great, like he made my heis from ballot, but
he yeah, he definitely You get some opinions about Diego Pavia,
no doubt.

Speaker 1 (01:47:36):
What is it about Alabama? Nick Kelly my guest on
the Java House Peel and poor guest line. What about Alabama?
Nick has when they have had their their games where
they just i'll say flat for lack of better term.
You see them much more closely than do why right,
but you talk about branding. I still think of Alabama
in that Nick Saban, the Bryce Young era, just like

(01:47:59):
running back after running back, that era of whole different
level football. They didn't have off games seemingly, then what
is it about this particular group when they do have
the games that are off other teams are doing what
to get them off rhythm.

Speaker 7 (01:48:17):
I would say pressuring ty Simpson. I think that's the
biggest thing that if a team wants to succeed, it's
much harder for him to run the offense and be
the very cerebral, precise quarterback he can be when he's
under pressure. So that's if if I'm Indiana finally to
do that, now he can still make you pay. It's
not that he just oh, you pressure him, He's done.

(01:48:39):
It's just I think that's the way to succeed. And
I think that's especially the case when you factor in
the offensive lines and consistent, but also like a lot
of times when the offense doesn't work, it's been a
case of the receivers dropping passes, the just running backs
not making plays, not reading the hole as well.

Speaker 6 (01:48:58):
But I think you.

Speaker 7 (01:48:58):
Can't control those things that you're defense as much as
you can just bringing pressure.

Speaker 1 (01:49:03):
Nick this Ty Simpson, who you know at the beginning
of the year, I think he was a lot of
people had him right there in the forefront for the heisman.
Obviously that goes now to Indiana with Brenanda Mendoza. But
give me kind of a scouting report on him in
terms of areas that make him uncomfortable, or areas where.

Speaker 2 (01:49:23):
He is where you can exploit him a little bit.

Speaker 5 (01:49:28):
That's a good question.

Speaker 7 (01:49:29):
I would say that he's at his best when he's
sitting back and he can just kind of see the field.
I mean, he's really smart, like he really is, and
he's the son of a coach. His dad, Jason Simpson,
is the coach of University of Tennessee at Martin that
is an FCS program that he's had a ton of
success there. So he grew up basically learning in a

(01:49:50):
college full program. So Ty's very smart, and he processes
things well and he sees things well. So the intermediate
routes he's actually very good at, and the short stuff
he's pretty good at is well. But again, when he's
pressured and he can't see the field as well, or
he has guys in his face, like Oklahoma in the
first game, when he turned the ball over a few times,

(01:50:11):
it was because of pressure. He threw his pick six
because the guy was a free rusher coming at him.
So sometimes, yeah, when teams get pressure and they get
in his face, that obviously makes it typical. I think
it makes it difficult for most folks, But he definitely
isn't as sharp then, and there are times where he
might I don't know, if you bring an exotic look
or have some kind of pressure that the line can't

(01:50:33):
pick up and there's a free rusher. Sometimes he's not
as good at seeing that and realizing he has to
get hear the ball quick, so that sometimes is an area.

Speaker 6 (01:50:40):
That isn't as strong.

Speaker 7 (01:50:41):
The deep ball has been inconsistent too, but he did
make some plays in that playoff game where he hit
guys on deep passes. So yeah, to me, the biggest
strength of ty has he sees the field really well.
It's hard to bait him into things like he's just
very smart, but he also just I mean, he can

(01:51:02):
make most of the throws he can he can find
guys in the intermediate routes. So I think that was
one thing that he's really brought to this offense this year,
is that he can find guys in tight windows.

Speaker 1 (01:51:13):
Defensively, you would anticipate that Alabama tries to do what
against Indiana, and where's an area that can kind of
flex their will if you.

Speaker 7 (01:51:21):
Will, Oh, gosh, well, Indiana, it's gonna bring a lot
of problems. So I think that's I don't know what
kan Walo, the defensive coordinator's plan is going to be,
but you know, good luck to him is kind of
my thought to me, you have to somehow get to
Fernando Mendoza because in a similar deal. And I don't
mean to keep giving the same answer, but correct me

(01:51:44):
if I'm wrong, But just to me, frandom Mendoza, if
he gets to sit back there and just pass it
will and just be comfortable, he's going to pick this
defensive part. So you have to somehow get pressure on him,
give him, give him just too much in his face
at times to where he's going to have to get
the ball out.

Speaker 6 (01:52:00):
And so I just think that's my imi.

Speaker 7 (01:52:02):
Their only path to me, I mean, just because they
have so many different ways that they can beat you
on offense for Indiana, so the guys up front in
that front seven would be really important for Alabama. But
one thing I will say, this Salabama defense has been
strength in the second half of the season. It didn't
look like it in the first quarter a quarter and
a half against Oklahoma, and they may have some struggles

(01:52:23):
at first, but this album defense is really good at
making adjustments and it has been a strength for this
group and has been much more consistent than the offense
in the second half of the year.

Speaker 1 (01:52:33):
I find Birmingham to be one of, if not the
most underrated cities in the United States. In particular, the
east side of Birmingham as you head towards, leads in
terms of like all local restaurants, very cool, vibe, feels
like a J Crew catalog, Mountain Brook, beautiful area.

Speaker 2 (01:52:53):
Your thoughts, Oh.

Speaker 6 (01:52:56):
It's great.

Speaker 7 (01:52:56):
I live in Birmingham and so I'm actually from Minnesota.
I'm a Midwest Big ten person at heart, so I've
lived down here about five years now. But the food
scene in Birmingham is underrated.

Speaker 6 (01:53:08):
It's very good.

Speaker 7 (01:53:10):
I've lived here several years now and I still haven't
made my way to all the good food spots. So yeah,
people ever in Birmingham, check out the food. It's really good.

Speaker 1 (01:53:18):
I'm telling you, it's a cool city for sure. Now
what part of Minneapolis or Minnesota? Did you grew up
in Minneapolis?

Speaker 2 (01:53:24):
I get it.

Speaker 6 (01:53:25):
I grew up in a suburb of Minneapolis.

Speaker 1 (01:53:26):
So you're the first poster on your wall when you
were a kid. Are you too young for Kirby Pucket
or was it Kevin Garnett.

Speaker 7 (01:53:35):
I'm too young for Kirby Potters, but he's a big one.
I think his rookie season was the year I was born,
I believe.

Speaker 2 (01:53:43):
So okay, fair enough.

Speaker 7 (01:53:46):
Adrian Peterson, Yeah, I mean he was in his prime
when I was coming up in school, so he was
definitely doing well. I didn't actually grow up a Vikings fandom.
My dad's family's from western Pennsylvania, so I picked dad's
to over moms to.

Speaker 1 (01:54:00):
All right, fair enough, So your first poster on the
wall was what Ben Roethlisberger.

Speaker 6 (01:54:06):
Troy Paul Malu. He was my favorite player growing up.

Speaker 2 (01:54:09):
Fair enough, and I listen. Unpopular to say here, Nick,
but it was an interception against Peyton Manning in the playoffs,
but they overturned it. But nonetheless, all right, Nick, I
appreciate the time.

Speaker 3 (01:54:19):
Man.

Speaker 1 (01:54:19):
We may try to grab you again, maybe either just
before or just after. I know you're going to be busy,
but certainly Merry Christmas to you, and appreciate the time
and the insights about Alabama today.

Speaker 2 (01:54:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:54:30):
Great chat with you, Mary Christmas. I'm a good rush
your weekend.

Speaker 1 (01:54:33):
Appreciate it. Nick Kelly joining us from ail dot com.
I'm telling you Birmingham's cool.

Speaker 2 (01:54:38):
Now.

Speaker 1 (01:54:38):
I did feel a little bit old there when he
said that the year he was born with some Randy
Moss was a rookie. Randy Moss's rookie year. That Thanksgiving
night game he had against Dallas.

Speaker 2 (01:54:48):
He was unbelievable. That was kind of his coming out.

Speaker 1 (01:54:50):
I mean, everybody knew about him because of the Florida State,
Notre Dame and then Marshall stuff. But he was so
I mean literally, you know, freak right, I mean, a
freak athlete and all of it. I just saw that
Randy Moss, by the way, rang the bell, meaning that
he is complete with his cancer treatments, which is good news, certainly.

(01:55:12):
Eddie's sport. First sports poster on your wall when you
were a kid was who.

Speaker 3 (01:55:17):
I can't even remember.

Speaker 1 (01:55:22):
Again, I'm gonna go, this guy is going to be
your two young for this Barry Larkin that was before you, right, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:55:30):
I didn't really have posters. I was ever to make
poster kid slash guy.

Speaker 2 (01:55:35):
Did you collect baseball cards?

Speaker 3 (01:55:37):
Not really? I didn't collect cards either jerseys.

Speaker 5 (01:55:40):
No.

Speaker 2 (01:55:41):
Did you follow sports?

Speaker 1 (01:55:42):
I did your favorite athlete when you were let me
guess when you were eight? Sean Casey No Joey Vada, No,
am I on the right team?

Speaker 3 (01:56:00):
Yeah, for sure you're on the right teams. Yeah. The
Reds all right, hit me with it, Edwin in Cornacione, Okay,
fair enough.

Speaker 1 (01:56:10):
I mean the name alone was cool, right, Yeah, and
you never knew when there was going to be, you know,
like some big home run hit.

Speaker 3 (01:56:16):
But I also loved Brandon Phillips.

Speaker 2 (01:56:20):
That was another one. Yeah, I forgot about Brandon Phillips.
That kind of goes with my all.

Speaker 3 (01:56:24):
Time favorite RD.

Speaker 1 (01:56:25):
Brandon Phillips is kind He was kind of the Kenny
Moore of the Reds, right, Yeah, like the guy that
you know, was kind of the plucky guy that you
didn't think much of it when he was acquired and
then his time went on, You're like, man, this guy's
really a good player.

Speaker 3 (01:56:37):
Yeah. And he always had like flashy plays.

Speaker 2 (01:56:40):
He was definitely flashy. Oh yeah, no question. He's going
in the Reds Hall of Fame this year. Did you
say we did get ahold of Casey?

Speaker 3 (01:56:47):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (01:56:47):
What time is that going to take place? Eight minutes?

Speaker 1 (01:56:50):
Casey Valier, who is the now He's the director of
Radio Coordination and Broadcast intra band media Relation.

Speaker 2 (01:56:58):
For the Colts.

Speaker 3 (01:56:59):
Yes, something like that.

Speaker 2 (01:57:01):
He's the Graham Pooba, Is that right?

Speaker 3 (01:57:04):
Well, I think Matt is the grand Pooba.

Speaker 2 (01:57:07):
I don't know though. Casey's the one coordinating. Yeah, that
just goes where Casey tells him to go. Casey coordinates
all the radios over there, turns them all and gets
them all on the right disal right station, the whole
deal right.

Speaker 1 (01:57:20):
Speaking of that, By the way, Colt's Happy Hour coming
up today at five point thirty. John will be in
with us, but coming up for the crossover at three
o'clock we'll find out what he's got lined up on
his program. He's been in here for a while today.
I noticed him earlier in the building. Sunday one o'clock.
It is the Colts Jags. The pregame getting underway at
ten o'clock in the morning, and the ride to kick

(01:57:41):
off at nine am. So a full day of Colts'
stuff to talk about coming up on Sunday. Big news
today in terms of who is in and who is out.
DeForest Buckner, that's the big story and we're going to
get into that with Casey. Shane Steichen announcing today that
DeForest Buckner had a setback with his neck and as
a result, he will not play for the remainder of

(01:58:04):
the season for the Colts. Also, the injury report from
today those that Tanner Bordolini is not practicing. Correct, Eddy
he is out with that concussion. Drew Ogletree did not
practice today. Correct, he is out with a neck injury.
Anthony Gould dealing.

Speaker 3 (01:58:22):
With a flint issue. He's out for Sunday. And JT
tooy moolillou to mo allow bleak injury out.

Speaker 2 (01:58:31):
JT to toy moo allou to mol alow, Yeah, tooy
moo allaow.

Speaker 1 (01:58:37):
It's funny that I can do auto racing play by
play without blinking with some of the names that I've
had to do over the years with that and never
trip it up. But when I know going into it
that I've got somebody, it trips me up. Yeah, all right,
DeForest Buckner out? What's that mean? Casey Valier joins us.

(01:58:57):
We'll discuss next. It's Friday, bottom of the two o'clock hour.
Over the course of the sports season, we bring you
a Franciscan health feel good good for the Hart Friday,
a story of we told you a couple of weeks
ago about a volleyball player, one of the best high
school players in the state that found herself in a

(01:59:19):
coma with an unexpected illness, bought our way back, got.

Speaker 2 (01:59:24):
EYEU into the Sweet sixteen.

Speaker 1 (01:59:25):
This year in NCAA Volleyball, we've told stories over the
course of the year about those that are getting an
opportunity through special Olympics or other such form and stories
that make you feel good about the right side of
sports or the right side of life. And we're going
to continue doing so for next year. I am so
happy that Franciscan Health gives me the platform each and

(01:59:48):
every week to do that. You know, last night we
went to a movie. I saw that Neil Diamond. It's
not a Neil Diamond biopic, but a movie about a
couple from Milwaukee based on a true story that overcame
lot as part of the Neil Diamond tribute band, and
the character no spoiler alert here, but one of the

(02:00:09):
characters in the movie has heart issues. And I actually
said to Shannon at one point, I go that this
is really difficult for me to watch, and I've never
felt that way.

Speaker 2 (02:00:19):
I don't know why.

Speaker 1 (02:00:20):
Last night, maybe because it was Christmas, was it resonated
with me so much. But I'm so thankful that Franciscan
gives us the opportunity to share with people the fact
that the number one heart program in Indiana in cardiology
by health grades, number one in Indiana for interventional coordinary
care and major cardiac surgery is Franciscan Health and they
do the forty nine dollars heart scan, just forty nine

(02:00:42):
dollars a forty nine dollars heart scan where you can
pay out a pocket you get a free heart health
risk with that. It is non invasive, so simple, and
it is making a difference.

Speaker 2 (02:00:52):
Folks.

Speaker 1 (02:00:52):
I'm telling you this effort that we're doing for Franciscan
and what Franciscan is doing for people in terms of
people finding out that they need to get in that
system for proper heart health, and it is That is
the feel good story right there. The fact that this year,
this campaign has made a difference, even just for one person,

(02:01:13):
that is so important to me. And the fact that
we're going to continue it for next year, and we're
also going to next year focus at least once a
month on a story as it relates to women's sports,
because women and heart disease also. That is an area
that is an increased concern and we want to get
that word out and we're going to do that in
twenty twenty six. I do have a pretty cool story

(02:01:35):
I'll share in just a couple of minutes. But before
I do so, Casey Evalier is the director of radio.
I think he's the director of radio placement for the Colts.
We'll find out his exact title in just a second.
Going to join us, but pre and postgame host, pregame host,
an in game host, I mean for the Colts radio network,
going to join us just a minute. I wanted to

(02:01:56):
read this right now text message, Hey, DeForest Buckner being
out and needing next surgery means what I've said all along,
it was a bad trade. You don't trade the thirteenth
pick in the draft for a D lineman when you
needed a quarterback, a D lineman who will never play
a playoff game at Lucas Soil Stadium. That from Paul Callahan.
Paul Callahan point that out. And Buckner's been a fabulous player.

(02:02:21):
He's been everything you would want as a teammate. He's
been everything you want as a contributor. But the next
issue now and Shane Stike and announcing earlier today that
he will not return this season.

Speaker 2 (02:02:34):
Casey joins us.

Speaker 1 (02:02:35):
Now, Casey, before we get into the specifics, because I
know that you're a man that wears many hats. Now,
you don't wear any hats that are as big as eddies,
but you wear many hats. Your actual title with the Colts, if.

Speaker 2 (02:02:46):
You will, is what I'm going to write this down
so I get it right.

Speaker 5 (02:02:49):
I am the coordinator of radio production.

Speaker 2 (02:02:52):
Okay, coordinator of radio production.

Speaker 4 (02:02:54):
Now.

Speaker 2 (02:02:55):
The other thing is this, I've heard this, and I
try to edgehorn and taught me this, he said, buddy,
and he had his arm around me. Buddy.

Speaker 1 (02:03:04):
When you talk to somebody and you hear different ways
our last name is pronounced, ask them how they introduced
themselves at parties. So your last name, Casey, because I've
heard it two different ways on the Colts radio broadcast,
of which you are the coordinator of production. Your last
name production when you introduce it at parties.

Speaker 2 (02:03:21):
Valier Valier val Ye, so not Valier Valier Valier.

Speaker 5 (02:03:28):
Now I have gone by numerous different ways, and I
am not picky about it because I know that we're
all Indiana. We're all Hoosiers at heart, and we say
things up strange. And I have family down in southern
Indiana who have never been able to say my name right.
So I don't care how it is said.

Speaker 2 (02:03:45):
But Valier, how do how do your family in southern Indiana?
How do they say it?

Speaker 4 (02:03:50):
Well?

Speaker 5 (02:03:50):
Value is is a common that's a common pronunciation. All
your kid with all your kid, you.

Speaker 1 (02:03:58):
Know, let's begin with this in terms of the news
today from Shanestikeen on to Forrest Buckner. Did he elaborate
Shanesteikeen on when this setback may have taken place and furthermore,
what it might mean long term for DeForest Buckner?

Speaker 5 (02:04:17):
So he didn't elaborate on when. It's essentially, you know,
after the game, he was, you know, he was kind
of going through, you know, maybe the recap of how
he played and talking with some of the docs and
that's when they were kind of you know, discovering. So
I don't know if there was a specific play or not,
but maybe it was just you know, the culmination of
after the game the way he felt it didn't it

(02:04:40):
didn't feel right for him. And as far as long
term goes, there's really no you know, there's nothing has
been said at that point right now, the anticipation is
is that he has surgery next week, our procedure done
next week, and that ultimately he should be ready to
go by by the time the season starts next year.
That was, you know, the very early in the stages

(02:05:02):
of all that. So we don't have a whole bunch
of you know, concrete information, but that is kind of
the way they're approaching this as of right now, is
that they'll have a procedure done next week and then
he should be ready to go for next year.

Speaker 2 (02:05:14):
Casey.

Speaker 1 (02:05:14):
In terms of this Sunday, if and I know it's
a big if and maybe it's a dangerous thing to
talk in ifs and you're an employee, I mean, I
don't want to be.

Speaker 2 (02:05:25):
In a bad spot here.

Speaker 1 (02:05:26):
But if we're if we're discussing this as two fans, okay,
or educated fans, if Houston is to win tomorrow, and
that means going into the game, that the Colts are
aware that it is a game that has no playoff
implication for them, right Philip rivers still start.

Speaker 5 (02:05:46):
Yes, So that has been discussed you know, this week,
and mainly the reason is because you know, you would
do a game plan, you prepare, you practice all week
with Philip being the guy, and they don't think that
would be you know enough, It would be a disservice
to Riley Leonard if they were to tell him, because

(02:06:07):
the game I think kicks off tomorrow at four point thirty,
so around eight o'clock locally would be when that game
is probably over tomorrow night. So to then all of
a sudden kind of change what you've done all week
your game plan, to say Riley Leonard is going to
start on Sunday, I think that's a disservice to Riley
and it would put him in a really tough, you
know situation. So right now it sounds like, regardless of

(02:06:29):
winter loss with Houston, it will be Philip Rivers on Sunday.

Speaker 1 (02:06:33):
And then I guess we will, you know, we'll wait
another week to figure out after that. Let me let
me here's what I said earlier, Casey, and I want
you to tell me if you think I'm literally the
only man in Indianapolis that feels this way, right, I
mean it might be me and my bloodstained volleyball that
I'm talking.

Speaker 2 (02:06:49):
To with this, okay, because I'm alone on an island.

Speaker 1 (02:06:53):
I have started to think more about this and thought
about the fact, and to be fair to Anthony Richardson,
I will say, from a health standpoint, if Richardson, but
when I really look at next year, I believe their
best option at quarterback next year is going to be
to re sign on probably a two year deal Daniel Jones,

(02:07:16):
partially because that's going to be less expensive than it
was if Jones right now was having continuing a Sam
Darnold type renaissance that he was on his way towards.
But if you bring back Daniel Jones next year, you're
going to need potentially a cushion for him for the
first couple of games until you can just in case,

(02:07:39):
in case that Achilles is not ready to go. I
would not rule out the possibility because I saw Philip
Rivers saying after the game on the field, how good
he felt, how much he enjoyed it, that they bring
him back for one year, simply to start the car
and keep it warm on the parade and pace slap
before Daniel Jones then hot than hop Senate, I want

(02:08:02):
you to tell me if I'm alone on an island
with that thought moving forward, you.

Speaker 5 (02:08:06):
Know I don't think you're alone. I think as of
right now, I think everybody is taking this pretty day
by day. But I think there is something to the
fact that Philip looked completely different last week than he
did in that first week again Seattle. I know they
said it's game plan specific and all of that, but
I think everybody would agree that he looked a little

(02:08:29):
bit more like the Philip Rivers we had got accustomed
to towards the end of his career. And if Philip
Rivers is on, you know, is he if he's making
statements about how well he feels. I don't know necessarily
that you can completely rule that out. I do think
that the idea of bringing Daniel Jones back, prior to

(02:08:50):
the even the you know, the fractured fibula that was
reported and then you talk about the Achilles injury, I
think you know, all around the building that was kind
of the thought that Daniel Jones was looking like the
guy that you would bring back. And I still think
you would definitely entertain that because of everything that you
know you're going to be seeing. You don't have the
first round picks, you can't you know, necessarily go get

(02:09:11):
your quarterback in the draft that you know is typically
taken as a franchise guy. If you look at what
the free agency pool is, I don't really know what
it looks like, but I know it's not super robust
as far as starting quarterbacks go. So Daniel Jones might
ultimately be the best option because you've got familiarity with him,
he's been in the building. You do want to see
how that Achilles is going to you know how long

(02:09:33):
it's going to take for him to get back to
at least a semblance of what the offense is going
to look like with him there. But I don't know
necessarily that you're all on an island by yourself with
the Philip Rivers thing, just because of one the relationship
he has with Shane Steichen. He knows this offense because
he essentially created this offense when he was with the Chargers.

(02:09:53):
So all of that, the learning curve, it's completely out
the window. You don't have to worry about any of that.
Clearly we're seeing that. I mean last week, I don't
know necessarily if he was making checks to the line
of scrimmage, but he was sure active at the line
of scrimmage looking over the defense and good putting guys
in the situations. So he has picked that up pretty quickly.
So if the body says he feels right, and it's

(02:10:13):
kind of that stop gap before Daniel Jones is fully
able to get back, I don't know necessarily, that's something
you don't entertain.

Speaker 2 (02:10:20):
Casey Valier is my guest, Did I say Valier? Did
I say that correct?

Speaker 6 (02:10:24):
Now?

Speaker 2 (02:10:24):
Is the L? Do I really?

Speaker 1 (02:10:26):
Do?

Speaker 2 (02:10:26):
I really hit the L? Is it more Valier or
Valier Valie? Yeah?

Speaker 5 (02:10:31):
You hit that yell and then and then you hit
the ya.

Speaker 2 (02:10:34):
The ya, Casey Valier, you know, I mean.

Speaker 5 (02:10:39):
So I'm used to telling, you know, some of the
voice guys over there at Urban One how to pronounce it,
and it's you got to emphasize the ya. So, I mean, honestly,
I've never even thought about it the first The first
way is you know Vallier, I don't mind that either.
So what about this we're adding that to it?

Speaker 2 (02:10:55):
How about Casey Casey Valley? How's that's that's the better
version of the AA? Right?

Speaker 5 (02:11:02):
That would be the better version of the A. I
don't know if I like the better version of the A.

Speaker 2 (02:11:06):
There, Jake, okay, fair enough?

Speaker 1 (02:11:09):
When obviously Colts and Jaggs coming up on Sunday. It
is the home finale. It is the penultimate game of
the regular season for the Colts. We'll see if that
extends beyond that. There's still mathematic possibility of the playoffs
that are there. The offensive line Casey you know, now
we know Tanner borderlini out. We obviously know that, Braden Smith,
you know there have been a number of injuries on

(02:11:30):
the offensive line. I'm curious from your standpoint, as you
do pregame stuff, that means that you've got to read
off injury report for each and every game, including the opposition.
We focus here in Indianapolis on the Colts. From what
you can tell, the amount of attrition that say, the
Colts have within the depth and or within the trenches
and having to go into their depth. Does that seem

(02:11:53):
to be to you the norm when you talk about
it from other franchises and the injury report list as
you get a chance to look at it from other teams,
or is it of concern to Indianapolis more so than
you see elsewhere.

Speaker 5 (02:12:06):
Well, actually, I would say for the most part, outside
of the last couple of weeks, the Colts have been
relatively healthy on the offensive line, probably compared to other teams. Now,
if you look at what Jacksonville is dealing with this week,
they have three offensive linemen who didn't practice this week
as well, so they're dealing with their own kind of thing.
So I think especially on you know, both sides of
the line, typically that's where you're going to see a

(02:12:28):
lot more of those injuries. I think because I mean, Jake,
you've seen it. I mean it's it's essentially it's a
car crash every time you snap the football between these guys,
I mean, here are going right.

Speaker 8 (02:12:38):
It's not ant So when you when you think about
it from those terms, I think ultimately, you know, with
with Bernard Reyman him missing just one game with the
elbow injury, we thought it could be worse.

Speaker 5 (02:12:50):
So it looks like him getting back that is a
positive sign. You mentioned Braden Smith, but outside of Brayden Smith,
Mackenzalve has missed one game. Tanner BORDERLINI this will be
just his first games. So they really haven't had a
whole bunch of injuries this year, which I think is
actually different compared to the norm because I think you're
used to seeing nine to ten different offensive line starting

(02:13:12):
combinations throughout a given year, and the Colts aren't at
that number this year, which is different from years past.

Speaker 1 (02:13:18):
Casey, we will be listening for obviously the pregame show
as well, Colts Jaggs coming up on Sunday, Colts Happy.
How we're getting underway Friday at that's today obviously at
five thirty it feels like a Monday, but today at
five thirty and then Sunday one o'clock kick pregame ten am,
the road to kickoff getting underway at nine o'clock.

Speaker 2 (02:13:37):
So all the coverage, Casey appreciated.

Speaker 5 (02:13:39):
All right always, Jake, Thanks man, Hi, Casey.

Speaker 2 (02:13:41):
Valier joining us here on the Java House Peel and
poor guest line. Real quick.

Speaker 1 (02:13:46):
I mentioned thank you Eddie since it is a feel good,
good for the heart Friday, even though we're towards the
end of the year. Here, I did see a very
cool story about the fact that this year is the
fifty year celebration and anniversary if you will, for Rob
Parsons and Diane Parsons and they live in Cardiff, United Kingdom. Jake,
why fifty anniversary of what? Fifty year anniversary of what

(02:14:11):
it was? Fifty years ago during the holiday season that
they got to knock on the door and Rob opened
the door, and standing before him on the porch was
a guy named Ronnie that he'd grown up with, and
all he was ever told was that Ronnie was just
quote a little bit off, a little bit different, talked
a little bit different, kind of a shy guy. And

(02:14:33):
he said, Hey, Ronnie, what's going on? And Ronnie said,
can I come in? Okay, So they invited him in
the house. And when they invited him in the house,
Ronnie in his kind of difficult way of expressing himself
and communicating because he was autistic, even before we really

(02:14:54):
knew what that diagnosis was. That's the ailment that he
was dealt with and or that he was dealt and
was dealing with. And at any rate, what they learned
is that Ronnie had found himself just through life in
a situation where he had kind of been bounced from
place to place. And here it was on the holidays,

(02:15:16):
and it was the weather was not great. He was hungry,
and he knew that Rob lived there and that they
had gone to school together. So he knocked on the
door and simply said can I come in? And he
just recently passed away, did Ronnie. But Ronnie did so
after having come into their house that day, and Rob
and Diane never saw him leave because they took him

(02:15:39):
in as a member of their own family for fifty years.
He was there when Rob found himself ill and they
had young children and Diane needed help around the house.
It was Ronnie that stepped in and was helping out
and was delivering bottles and was helping with the laundry.
And he wasn't able to always communicate verbally, but he

(02:15:59):
communicated to the look in his eyes. And the one
thing that he was able to communicate at one point
was when they felt like maybe it was time that Ronnie,
after having been there for years and helped out with
their kids, maybe it was time for Ronnie to be
off on his own. And when they went in to
talk to him about it, he looked at him and
simply said, did I do something wrong? And they said, no,

(02:16:20):
you actually didn't. And that's why when we said, yes,
you can come in, we're here to tell you that
you can stay in. Even though it had been twenty
five years at that point, and Ronnie lived with Robin
Diane for fifty years and when he passed away, they
realized that what they lost was a part of their family.
And that's because at the time when it's most important,

(02:16:42):
they opened their door simply to find who was on
the porch, but then ended up opening up their home
to somebody who just simply needed a place to come
in and wanted to make sure that they hadn't done
anything wrong.

Speaker 2 (02:16:56):
Now, I'm not.

Speaker 1 (02:16:57):
Asking you to let people into your house during the holidays,
and I'm not saying that and have them live with you.
But when you see somebody that might seem a little
bit off, might seem a little bit different, think about
the fact that you never know that that person might
be wondering if they simply had done something wrong, and
maybe it's time to simply tell them, no, you didn't

(02:17:17):
and just do a simple, even the smallest gesture of
kindness to let them know that in fact, you didn't
do anything wrong, You've been doing it right, and.

Speaker 2 (02:17:27):
Reward them for it. John is here. I just saw
him walking around.

Speaker 1 (02:17:30):
We'll do the crossover brought to you by the good
guys that love heating and air lovedash hvac dot com
is the website three one seven, three five three twenty
one forty one.

Speaker 2 (02:17:39):
Johnny be Good is here. As a matter of fact,
it is the crossover brought to you by the good
guys that love heating an air. John Merry Christmas. Do
you have a good holiday? I had a good holiday.

Speaker 9 (02:17:49):
I went to terre Hold on Chris actually Bloomfield to
Lenton to Sullivan to taro Hold.

Speaker 2 (02:17:55):
On Christmas Eve, I saw the Sullivan Jim.

Speaker 9 (02:17:57):
How about that nineteen twenty seven awesome gymnasium. I didn't
get a chance to get in, but I've been in.

Speaker 2 (02:18:04):
I was in it.

Speaker 9 (02:18:04):
I think the last time I was in, it was
like fifteen degrees below zero outside and the parents had
to keep their cars running as we played.

Speaker 5 (02:18:11):
Nice.

Speaker 1 (02:18:11):
Yeah, so what's lined up on the big show? We
know the DeForest Buckner news.

Speaker 9 (02:18:15):
We yeah, we'll do that and we'll see just how
much we're going to see a Sauce Gardner. I guess
coming up on Sunday, Joeli Erickson joins us at four.

Speaker 3 (02:18:23):
Wells is going to be here.

Speaker 9 (02:18:24):
I haven't heard from Fish yet. Have you heard from Fish?
We'll see about Don coming up a little bit later on.
He may be off with the holidays, and I use
basketball team off and awaiting the Rose Bowl. But Mike Duraco, ESPN,
ESPN dot Com, Bob Lovell, so load it up and
off at five thirty. How was your Christmas?

Speaker 2 (02:18:42):
It was good.

Speaker 9 (02:18:42):
You have a bunch of people you didn't know there, No.

Speaker 2 (02:18:45):
That we did that Thanksgiving, not Christmas though, but it
was good.

Speaker 1 (02:18:49):
And then back in the saddle today knowing that we
had the game coming up on Sunday. Slippery Noodle, by
the way, I'll be there pregame tailgate on Sunday looking
for everybody. Then John is up next, Colts Happy Hour
five thirty. We'll hand it over to John and we'll
do it next here as we roll along, have a
great weekend.

Speaker 2 (02:19:07):
See on Sunday, everybody here on the fan.

All Episodes

Episode Transcript

Popular Podcasts

Stuff You Should Know

SmartLess

My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark

.css-15opob5{left:0;position:absolute;top:0.8rem;} All Episodes

.css-14f5ked{margin:0;word-break:break-word;display:-webkit-box;-webkit-box-orient:vertical;box-orient:vertical;-webkit-line-clamp:2;overflow:hidden;}Colts vs Jaguars Preview + Early Look Into IU vs Alabama! Casey Vallier, J.P. Shadrick, and Nick Kelly Join!

Episode Transcript

Popular Podcasts

.css-r6mb8g{margin:0;word-break:break-word;display:-webkit-box;-webkit-box-orient:vertical;box-orient:vertical;-webkit-line-clamp:1;overflow:hidden;}Stuff You Should Know

SmartLess

My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark

All Episodes

Colts vs Jaguars Preview + Early Look Into IU vs Alabama! Casey Vallier, J.P. Shadrick, and Nick Kelly Join!

Stuff You Should Know