Colts vs Raiders Preview + Stephanie White on WNBA Leadership & Caitlin Clark's Popularity!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Indeed, we are working for the weekend of Friday, and man,
what an awesome looking Friday, No kid, I love it.
And the weather is perfect tomorrow. Highlight of the summer.
Highlight of the summer. Eddie Garrison hosting Sports' early fall. Now,

(00:24):
but what's that.

Speaker 2 (00:25):
Eddie Garrison hosting sports talk this weekend for Bottle Level.

Speaker 1 (00:28):
That is one of them. It's the sign of the
end of summer, in the beginning of autumn. I realize
that we are now in the whatever, autumn solstice whatever.
But the weather's fabulous.

Speaker 2 (00:39):
So missus Querry Leaf recordings.

Speaker 1 (00:43):
The mill a couple of weeks away from that. It
is a traditional Eddie that you are familiar, a tradition
like any other. It involves what is going to happen tomorrow,
involves myself and another not member of this radio station,
but kind of indirectly a recurring character on this radio station.

Speaker 2 (01:01):
What are you and Derek Schultz doing?

Speaker 1 (01:03):
Not Derek Schultz, same height.

Speaker 2 (01:06):
Boy, that's very vague. There's a lot of people that
are the same height as Derek Schultz, different gender. What
are you and Shannon doing, Jake? Is it the annual
trip to Milwaukee? It is not that's in December. Lindsay
Monroe of WHR we got.

Speaker 1 (01:22):
The Corey is the Wiener dog races Baby German Fest
out in front of the ANTHONYUM, Let's go. I love
every minute of it. They sent me a fourteen page script.
I'm like, yeah, we've never followed a single word of
any of this, but thank you. We just go out
there and let the dogs do the talking man and
it is awesome that. And then we have a steinholding competition,

(01:43):
we have a brought eating competition. It's a ton of fun.
I can't wait for tomorrow. But let me begin with this,
and we have a big show lined up for you today.
This is the final day, Eddie. The final day, Okay
for an extended period of time. This is the final

(02:06):
day that we will do this show with guests on
our guest line that is not sponsored by our to
be announced Monday sponsor for the guest line.

Speaker 2 (02:18):
That was very convoluted, very worthy, there, Jake, Okay, today's
the final day of the insert business. I can't even
say insert business. It's the last day of the unsponsored
guest line. I think that's what I just said. It
was very convoluted, very worthy. How you put it, I
don't think so.

Speaker 1 (02:33):
Yeah, so I think. I said, today is the final
day of our guest line where it is unsponsored before
our sponsor then for an extended period begins on Monday,
and we will announce on Monday who that's going to be.
And I'm super stoked for it because, as I mentioned,
it is and I love every body that's a part
of the show. I just got done talking with Ron

(02:55):
from Chicago's Pizza, who's a great guy, and I could
not be happy, beer more proud to be able to
spread their message of the twenty five dollars family meal
deal and the family values of Chicago's Pizza and a
story in every slice in eighteen Central Indiana locations. I
love Love heating and air, family owned business been around

(03:15):
for over one hundred years. Right, Obviously it goes without
saying that it is a privilege and a duty to
be able to carry out the message from Franciscan Health
and the work that they do for cardiovascular health and
getting people set for their you know, heart scans and
making sure that everybody's healthy.

Speaker 2 (03:36):
You got a story coming up at two thirty today,
is that right?

Speaker 1 (03:38):
That is correct? And you know the doing things for
the Indiana Donor Network is important to me, Premier weight
loss and the work that they do in my case
in helping I was just talking to somebody yesterday talking
about man I tried glyss right. Numbers are great since
I've been taking the weight loss injection, that being able
to spread that message. I love people that are going
to go to the Purdue Illinois game and watch the

(04:01):
battle for that little cannon they fight for. Pretty Athletics
partnered with Surfside also a pleasure to have them on
board and to welcome on another company that I am
a huge lover of their product. I love their story,
I love the local aspect of it. I love the
fact that it combines my passion for doing this show

(04:21):
and doing IndyCar racing. All of it cannot wait until Monday,
but let's begin with this. Last night, Thursday night football,
I'm watching the San Francisco forty nine Ers and the
Los Angeles Rams, and in watching it, I'm looking at

(04:43):
the Rams and I'm trying to analyze, Okay, is this
any sort of a barometer of who and what and
where the Colts are? Colts getting set for the Raiders
coming up Sunday Lucas Oil Stadium. Brock Bowers did not practice. JT.
The Brigg told us yesterday he thinks Bowers will play,
but will have a knee sleeve on. We will see

(05:04):
if that limits brock Bauers in terms of his effectiveness,
although he is the kind of player that, as good
as he is, he makes a difference just by being
out there, because you know, the old proverbial decoy. Michael
Pittman Junr. Also now added to the injury list on
the Indianapolis side. Correct.

Speaker 2 (05:22):
He was added yesterday with a hamstring injury and was limited.

Speaker 1 (05:26):
Joel A.

Speaker 2 (05:27):
Erickson, a recipient of the Beer Ferry, just tweeted out
a minute ago that Michael Pittman Jr. Is out at
practice today. However, Joel does not see his other counterpart,
Alec Pierce today at practice for the Colts.

Speaker 1 (05:44):
Now the Colts, of course, in that game in Los
Angeles when you know you had Daniel Jones with two turnovers,
two interceptions, right, and I'm watching Mac Jones and I'm
looking at his effectiveness against Los Angeles and in doing so,

(06:05):
and yes, he has Mac Jones and this is not
it's not like Mac Jones is you know, a guy
that they just like found on tender and said, all right,
let's go. I mean, this is a guy that was
a former first round pick that, certainly at the beginning
of his time in New England I think had was
an accurate quarterback. I don't know that anybody felt like
it was a guy that was a dynamic quarterback, but

(06:27):
he was, you know, he could throw with accuracy, and
then things just kind of stalled out for him. And
then now, of course he finds himself in San Francisco.
Purdy is out, mac Jones steps in. So you look
at the numbers of what he did yesterday, which were big.
He threw for over three hundred and Mac Jones was

(06:48):
the story of that game. I mean, a couple of
costly turnovers and a lot of people talking about how
al Michaels has lost his fastball. Maybe that's the case.
I love al Michaels, but nonetheless, when you look at that,
you say to yourself, Okay, so if mac Jones is
able to have a really good game against the Rams
and Daniel Jones, I'm not saying that he didn't have

(07:09):
a that he had a terrible game, but it made
me start to think and then as I'm pondering all
of those things, the game's wrapping up. I'm still wide awake.
I'm nocturnal, as most people know, and I realize that,
oh gosh, I forgot with this new cable system. Now

(07:30):
I have like every possible app under the sun. I
don't even know which ones I'm paying for, which ones
are free, which ones are trials. I have no idea.
But one of the apps I scan over to it,
I'm like, I wonder what's on I've never even like
I'm going to click this button on this app and
even see what's on it. So I clicked this button
and it says, you know, hey, an original, a Hulu original,

(07:53):
So it okay, Well, what's the Hulu original? You know?
Is it's going to be Marsha Brady in the grass
skirt and the Nalys locking up were back in the
Hulu Like what are we doing here?

Speaker 3 (08:03):
Right?

Speaker 1 (08:04):
The Hulu special? So I click on it. It's an original,
and I'm like, well, this looks fun and I look
at this show it and then I realize and I
know I'm always the last to these parties. This show
just dropped, as the kids say, like a week ago.
So it's brand new, right, and of course we are all.
I think most people are familiar with the skit that

(08:25):
Eli Manning did a handful of years ago as part
of Omaha Productions, which Omahall Productions is the company that
does the Manning cast, and they now have parlayed this
skit of Eli Manning dressing in disguise and fooling a
football team that is now I don't know if you're
familiar with it or not. Eddie a sitcom on Hulu

(08:46):
called Chad Powers. I'm familiar with it with Glenn Powell. Yes, correct,
So I watched it last night. Now, the plot, I mean,
it's it's it's okay, it's actually pretty like you can
kind of see where a lot of the storylines are going.
But it's it's fun, right, it's fun. It's not it's cheesy,
but it's fun. So what it is is a guy

(09:08):
that is a dynamic college quarterback quarterbacks at Oregon, and
his career comes to an end in disastrous fashion. And
so he is this shamed name, if you will, and
he just kind of he's now like twenty five, twenty
six years old, looking for a second lease on life,

(09:28):
trying to you know, turn things around and finds out
that there is a college football program that's having open
quarterback tryouts because they've hit you know, the skids. So
his dad happens to be a Hollywood like Missus Doubtfire,
a Hollywood makeup artist and whatever else. So he creates

(09:50):
a disguise to go down and try out for this
football team. Now, this is obviously the most hokey and
ridiculously non believable story line of all time. But it's
entertaining and it's fun, and it's light and it's you
know whatever, and it's intriguing. But as I'm watching it,
I'm like, Okay, you have a split personality because Chad

(10:10):
powers when he is in disguise. Okay, is this humble
kind of like the water boy kind of guy in
reality the quarterback, the real person is super arrogant and
can wing the ball wherever it wants to go, and
just a dynamic athlete and a great player. So two

(10:31):
different quarterbacks in one.

Speaker 2 (10:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (10:35):
And as I'm watching it, coming off of the end
of that Rams game, I'm wondering, as I'm thinking about
Mac Jones putting together a dynamic performance against that Rams defense.
The Rams defense that. For example, I picked up this
week in my fantasy league and they got me negative
two points. Right, So a defense that is clearly susceptible

(10:55):
mac Jones is able to carve them apart. Daniel Jones
didn't necessarily fall in his face against him, but didn't
necessarily carve them apart either. And if you look at so,
then I started to wonder, are we seeing right here
in Indianapolis? Are we going to and are we entering
into our own season of Chad Powers? Are we getting

(11:17):
ready to see our fans in New York looking at
it and saying, look perfectly fitting that Peyton Manning is
a producer of this show because it is about to
actually unfold in Indianapolis? Are there people that are saying that?
And so I started to look at Daniel Jones as
a quarterback right now, in what he's done through four games.

(11:39):
And in the first three games, Daniel Jones when the
Colts were three and unblemished, sixty three of eighty eight
for eight hundred and six yards, three touchdowns and no interceptions. Okay,
and obviously he was very good, very efficient. His quarterback
ratings QBR is what everybody goes by now, right, like the.

Speaker 2 (12:00):
I think so.

Speaker 1 (12:01):
So his QBR in those three performances eighty one point eight,
eighty point seven, ninety three point five. Now we love
the ninety three point five yere right, we do. We do. Indeed,
we are huge fans that that. If you are that
or one oh seven point five, then you are like
Hall of Fame caliber. But game number four against the

(12:24):
Rams twenty four thirty three, not terrible, two sixty two,
not terrible, a touchdown, okay, two picks. His rating for
that is QBR fifty three point three. Now, it was
not a disastrous performance, but when you parlay that with
the fact of what you just saw last night, you realize, Okay,

(12:45):
it's not like he was going up against the doomsday defense.
It's not like he was going up here against the
steel curtain. The Rams do have some you know, they've
got some defensive pieces for certain, don't get me wrong.
And I think Daniel Jones is going to be just fine.
And I think that that performance against the Rams, while
not completely disastrous, still was a dip from what we

(13:09):
had seen in weeks one, two, and three. So then
I began to wonder, is this what we're doing? Is
are we now did we fall in love with through
three games? Another version of Carson Wentz, which is when
good really good, when not really good okay. But the

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difference is this, there are other quarterbacks that just okay
is not good enough for you because your roster needs
to be lifted. And as I was sitting looking at this,
and as I was analyzing all of this, and as
I was overthinking it at three twenty eight in the morning,

(13:51):
with these brain droppings of this guy and his wig
and his outfit and everything else, and then wondering like, well,
the real Daniel Jones please stand up right as I'm
going over all of that, then I started thinking about
that show, and I thought, you know, it's a pretty
good show. I've only watched two episodes. I'm excited for

(14:12):
the drop of the next episode of this Chad Power Show.
But the reason I like the show is because the
storyline's cheesy and hokey and not even remotely believable. But
he meets a kid on campus that's kind of a
fun side character that helps him out. Here. They have
a backup quarterback that he's got a battle for that's

(14:35):
a really fun, well portrayed, perfectly casted, and embellished in
terms of his cheesiness level character that makes it fun.
They have an assistant coach. There's a storyline that you
can clearly see developing where you're like, Okay, this is
gonna this kind of hooks me in this storyline with
this other character. And I realized that while Chad Powers

(14:57):
is the name of the show, it is the ausxils
Hillary characters that actually are the reason that I'm intrigued
to watch episode number three and for this version of
the Colts, the reality is that while Daniel Jones may
be Chad Powers, he may be a quarterback that depending
on the day, you're wondering if people are going to

(15:18):
find out that there's actually somebody different underneath that jersey.
It's the auxiliary characters that are making the show. And
so while I think Daniel Jones has played really well,
and I said yesterday, we may be at the time
now where people need to start wearing Daniel Jones jerseys
to the Colts games because he's going to be here
beyond this year. It's the auxiliary characters also that are

(15:41):
going to make the show for him. Jonathan Taylor, Michael Pittman,
Junr who we just mentioned on the injury list, Josh Downs,
you know clearly, Tyler Warren, Alec Pierce, and then the
defense in general, you know, to Forrest Buckner and Kevin

(16:02):
Bowen is going to join us on the program later
talking about how DeForest Buckner went and talked with Adie Mitchell.
And I know people are tired of hearing the Ady
Mitchell storyline. I get it, but it is a storyline, nonetheless,
But the leadership of the Colts when you have a
DeForest Buckner going and talking to Adie Mitchell, different sides
of the ball, different rooms, as we like to say
now in NFL talk. But yet nonetheless, you have a

(16:26):
leadership there that I think some other groups in this
franchise have not had in a while. And those pieces,
those characters, those storylines are what are going to draw
us back and Eddie, I believe that they are. Even
if Daniel Jones doesn't have the consistency that he had
through the first three games, and he may very well,

(16:49):
even if looking at what the Rams did last night
diminishes a little bit like okay, maybe going into LA
and losing a game against well, they just lost against
one of the top teams league and San Francisco's pretty
good as well, don't get me wrong, but they went
in with a backup. You know, even if those things
diminish a little bit, I do think that more often
than not, we're going to see the likable, the win,

(17:13):
the winning Daniel Jones, the taking care of the football
Daniel Jones. And even if he does have games where
he dips, I think the fact that they have that
rest of the supporting cast is a real credit to him.
And I think they are still on pace for what
I said at the beginning. I said at the beginning
theyre ten and seven. That may be selling him short
now because the schedule itself starts to look favorable. They

(17:34):
could go beyond that.

Speaker 2 (17:35):
Yeah, perhaps, And we still don't know, really know what
Jacksonville is like. Their offense hasn't been great. They've found
ways to win three games. The one game they lost
was to Cincinnati after Joe Burrow went down with Jake Brownie.
They let it come back and we're able to feed
Jacksonville like. And Jacksonville has the same records as the
Cult right now, they're tied for first the AFC South
And it's kind of crazy to say we still don't

(17:57):
really know a whole lot about Jacksonville through four weeks,
but that's why you play the games. Jake in to
your point about you know Colts and Rams last night,
the Rams were just making uncharacteristic mistake after uncharacteristic mistake.
You had Kyrie Williams fumbling at the goal line. You
had Blake korm not bringing in a pitch from Matthew Stafford.
You had a holding penalty on a big return that

(18:17):
would have set you up in prime position to win
at the end of regulation. You had a blocked pat
you had a missed field goal. Like there were so
many things that went wrong for Los Angeles last night
to lose that game that they did not do against
the Colts. On the other side, it was the Colts
making those mistakes against the Rams, and that's why the
Colts fell short.

Speaker 1 (18:36):
Let me give you one other thing that happens in
the show. No spoiler alert here. Don't worry if you
have not watched yet Chad Powers or you plan on
doing so. Okay, I mean not to mention. It's not
like this is gone with the wind, right, I mean
this is not It's but the character Chad Powers is
in disguise so he can play quarterback, he has to

(18:59):
wear a mask. Missus doubtfire. Okay, of course it's a
comedy as well, so there are there is a scene
where the mask becomes compromised and somebody's talking to him,
not realizing they're they're talking to a person wearing a
rubber mask, and the mask becomes compromised and it starts leaking.

(19:20):
That's all I'll say about the scene to be fair
to Daniel Jones. The other aspect that you have to
look towards, and the reason why I don't find it
of major concern is because I think this is the
anomaly we know. For example, we've seen in Indianapolis body

(19:41):
of work of Quentin Nelson, We've seen body of work
of Bernard Ryman. We know, you know, we know on
the right side of the line where they you know,
Braden Smith that you know what you have there, right
and I know that they have a you know, Bordolini
is new essentially, even though we've seen some of what

(20:02):
he can do, there were times that those whose job
it was to mask Daniel Jones and protect him and
keep him so that you don't know where he is defensively,
that are there to protect him. They did themselves have
scenes in the movie Against the Rams and the episode
against the Rams where the water started leaking through a

(20:22):
little bit on the mask. And therefore it was difficult
for Daniel Jones to be able to show in any way,
shape or form, even if he wanted to, who exactly
he might be, because uncharacteristically from games one, two, and three,
he was under more duress than he was in those
first three games. And you have to factor that in

(20:42):
and say, I do like the I don't have concern
about the offensive line so long as they stay healthy.
I do think that offensive line is a weird It's
just a weird position or a weird unit where you
have occasional games where I mean, there have been games
with the Colts from an offensive line standpoint where you're like,

(21:04):
who are these guys? I mean they are They're like
the Berlin Wall, Like this is the Great Wall of China,
the Blin Wall fell, the Great Wall of China. I
mean this is They're unbelievable for a game or two, right,
we had it last year a couple of times. And
then there are also times where you have an unbelievable
the Dallas Cowboys with them at Smith behind him offensive

(21:25):
line that just have off days. And I think that
that was you'd like to think because of the aggression
of the Rams, And I mean, you know, the Rams
have some guys, you know, versus a kind of guy
that that's an anomaly of what you're going to face
more often than not. But there were indeed poors in
the wall that allowed for Daniel Jones to have to rush,

(21:48):
and he made a couple of bad decisions with that.
But that's another thing you have to factor in, which
is the real Daniel Jones and which is the real
the protection an aspect of it, I'm not as worried about,
but some of the throws that he made you could
look at and say, Okay, if you can get to him,
if you can give different looks or stunts, which Daniel

(22:11):
Jones you're gonna get. I personally think it's going to
be the one From the first three weeks of the year,
a lot to talk about, including college football perdue in
Illinois coming up this weekend. Goes without saying that with
Indiana and Oregon, we ramp that up over the course
of next week because it's going to be a top
ten matchup and then Indiana if they can hold serve

(22:33):
with that or certainly they gonna win. But even if
they were to lose out in Eugene going into Penn
State a couple of weeks after that, if they were
able to hold serve up to that point, I keep
saying they'll win if they're ranked in the top ten
and Penn State, because Penn State can't beat anybody ranked
in the top ten. We talked yesterday about the Indiana
fever and the situation with the WNBA Collective Bargaining Agreement.

(22:57):
Caitlin Clark has not only yesterday as we played for you,
addressed the comments where she was kind of lumped in
with that of the WNBA and the commissioner, but she
also pinned a thank you letter, did she not, Eddie?

Speaker 2 (23:12):
She did? Kind of.

Speaker 1 (23:13):
Yeah. She essentially posted talking about her how would you
word it? Her her love for Indianapolis or her enjoyment
of playing in Indianapolis. Yep. Do you have any of
the highlights of said letter? I've got the audio. We
can play that a little bit later. I would like
for you to play how long is it? Just over

(23:35):
a minute? Go ahead and play it now and there's
a reason why. Leading up to our next guest, this
is Caitlin Clark. What exactly specifically was she addressing in
terms of this just being askeding about playing in the
state of Indiana. Here is Caitlin Clark on being a
Hoosier now even though she's obviously an iowahaw kye.

Speaker 4 (23:54):
This place is incredible and I think you've heard so
many people talk about it over the course the last
few weeks, whether it's the whether it's pacers, whether it's
been our players. You know, it's just incredible. It's in
a way it almost feels like like a college, like
a university, like all the teams are supporting each other,
and like you don't get that in professional sports really,

(24:16):
but like you have that here and I think that
just speaks like I always say, like, obviously I'm from Iowa,
like Indianapolis. I understand it's a big city, but it
doesn't really feel that way to me, Like it's a
very close knit group, like everybody supports one another. But
then you have the professional sports teams and that's what
everybody's most passionate about here, and that's what I love
about it. You know, people really show up this is
there a lot of these fans like these have been

(24:38):
their teams since they've been five years old. This is
all they've known. These are the only teams they've cheered for,
and you know, to have this type of success across
the board. Obviously, the Colts have had an amazing start
to their season, and the Pacers run last year and
then everything we've been able to persevere and you know,
reach the w NBA semi finals, like it's a it's
a really special time in this city and you know,
I can't imagine myself in a bet place and just

(25:01):
really fortunate to have, you know, made different friendships with
different athletes across the city and just have the support
from from not only a city, but the state as
a whole.

Speaker 1 (25:11):
Which is interesting because she's one of the very few
players that are under contract. We knew she wasn't going
anywhere obviously, right, but you hear those rumblings, right, you
hear those rumblings from externally like, oh, Caitlyn Clark, you know,
not happy, or Kitlyn Clark needs to put on weight,
or what's going on with her injury or whatever else,
and then boom, at the end of the year, it
is like, look, there's a lot going on around me,

(25:32):
but this is where I want to be. And one
of those friendships, one of those relationships one would assume
that has her happy, that has her content, that has
her ready to move forward to get past the semi
finals of the WNBA as that with her coach Stephanie White,
who I thought did a fabulous job with that group,
and I led the week off by talking about just

(25:52):
the level of overall pride I think you had to
have in the way that the Fever played and came
together collectively and represented the state of Indiana. Stephanie's been
kind enough to give us her time each and every week,
and the only only only air she has made, in
my opinion, all year is the musical choice that she
has for her lead in next. I said, can you

(26:13):
join us on Friday? She said yes. I said, you
picked the musical guest. She picked it. I said, that's
very uncomfortable, but we'll do it anyway, and we'll do
it next with the head coach of the Fever. See Okay,
kudos to you, Eddie, kudos. I was super worried that
when coach Stephanie White of the Fever said she likes
Adele and that that's what she wanted as her intro music.

(26:34):
That considering that their their year came to an end,
I was worried that you were going to get snarky
with it and play the we could have had it
all the and then it gets uncomfortable, you know what
I mean, Because there are two ways when a season ends.
I think oftentimes and look for any team, it goes
without saying for any team when a season ends, there
is disappointment right in the moment, but then you can

(26:58):
kind of step back and and get a broader view
of it. And I wanted to do exactly that with
the head coach of the Indiana Fever who joins us
on the program, Stephanie White, coach, how are you.

Speaker 3 (27:08):
I'm doing all right? How about you?

Speaker 1 (27:10):
No complaints? I wanted to I wanted to begin with this.
I wanted to read you this. And this is one
of many comments that I got when we talked about
that overtime performance with Las Vegas and everything that went
into that game and the resolve that your team showed.
I got the following from a guy who is a
high school basketball coach. He said, last night, it was

(27:35):
so spot on when everything you talked about and how
it leads to being so proud of a sports team.
Win or lose is one thing, but sometimes a team
does everything that you would want in a team, and
it's something that is a fan it makes you proud
of the fact that they represent nice job to the
fever of representing Indiana basketball the right way, and I

(27:57):
totally agree with that. And I'm curious though, if you know,
from a professional standpoint, because you have a job to do, coach,
are you able to really step back and say that
was remarkable what we were able to do.

Speaker 5 (28:11):
You know, I think maybe in a couple of weeks
I'll be able to do that really realistically. You look
at it and you think, yes, it's it's pretty remarkable.
But at the same time, that's what sport it's all about.
I mean, we think about, you know, the history of sport.
It's it's oftentimes the most inspirational stories are the are

(28:35):
the you know, remarkable ones right against all odds, ones,
the ones that have you know, really good human beings
that that set an example for for life, not just
for sport.

Speaker 3 (28:46):
And you know, that's what this group was, you.

Speaker 5 (28:49):
Know, and and oftentimes when you when you may not
be as talented as your opponent, or when you may
not you know, have have all of the things that
that that that that other teams or other people do.
It takes the intangibles, and it takes the connectedness, and
it takes something different inside of you. And I think
that that's what this group has had you.

Speaker 1 (29:10):
There was a clip that was shown on television where
they had you miked up and during a time it
was after Kelsey Mitchell had gone down. And you know,
we now know that that injury. And I want to
give full kudos and credit to the medical staff that
was there because we thought it was just, oh, she
has a leg cramp, and we now know that that's
something that could have been more severe and will be

(29:32):
monitored moving forward. But thankfully they were just so fast
to act on that, and and that deserves a tip
of the cap. But you've got to then kind of
rally your team together and you're saying to them, no
one is more prepared for and I'm paraphrasing, no one
is better built to be able to respond to this
than we are. Nobody can handle this like we can.

(29:52):
When you were saying that coach, could you see in
their eyes that they that they believed what you were saying.

Speaker 5 (30:00):
I saw fear to start and and that's why I
said it, because we had had so many of those
of those moments.

Speaker 3 (30:06):
And at the time, we obviously didn't know what was
going on with Kelsey. Uh. We thought it was.

Speaker 5 (30:10):
Cramp cramping as well, and and so you know, the
the severity of of of what was happening wasn't there.
But in any time you see a teammate go down,
it's it's hard. And and we've had all many of
those moments, unfortunately throughout the course of the year, and

(30:30):
we've had to rally around them and rally for them,
and and and rally one another, and so you know,
in that moment, it was just a sense that it
could have been been a breaking point for our team,
but reminding them what we've been through, reminding them that
that we could find another gear, find another level, that

(30:51):
we could find something inside of us that was playing
for something more than just to win a basketball game,
because we had done it multiple times, and quite frankly,
just reminding them who they are in that moment and
whether it was going to go our way or not,
you know, we still needed to find something to play for.

Speaker 1 (31:12):
And by the way, that injury for those that are unfamiliar,
and it's a medical term that I'm not even going
to try to pronounce, but essentially what happened was she
had a muscle deficiency where her muscles for a five
to seven second period essentially paralyzed on her and she
could not move her muscles, and that is something that
will be monitored moving forward. We certainly hope the best
for Kelsey Mitchell in terms of the way that in

(31:36):
that game, I just thought it was a microcosm of
your season because every single time, and I'm not gonna
lie to you, Stephanie White, the Fever coaches, our guest
here with sport coach, and I think you know this.
You know sometimes when you are involved from a working
standpoint in a game, you see it differently. You know this.

(31:58):
I mean you've done radio and done tellelevision analysis of games.
You just kind of watch it differently, right, like the
fandom and you kind of goes away, right. It is
becomes rare with teams that all of a sudden, I
get fifteen year old me comes out again and I'm
pacing and whatever else I actually did that in this
game because I wanted it was such a great story

(32:18):
and I loved the resolve of it. And every time
it got to like five points, I thought, oh gosh,
and then I'd turn around and I come back and boom,
it's tied again. It was a microcosm of exactly your year.
How was that? What is it about this group that
was different?

Speaker 3 (32:37):
Uh?

Speaker 5 (32:37):
You know, I think number one, I truly believe in
my heart that connected teams are winning teams.

Speaker 3 (32:43):
And this is a group that was incredibly connected. And it's.

Speaker 5 (32:50):
Not something that you can produce. It's something that happens organically.
And this group or who came into the locker room
at what point in the season they came into the
locker room that the people who had been here navigated, embraced, empowered,

(33:10):
and also showed them the way.

Speaker 2 (33:12):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (33:12):
You know, we had gosh, four or five five people
on our team that didn't start the year with us,
if I'm right about that. And our mantra from the
very beginning of the year was we over me. You know,
we started the season understanding that we had a lot
of talent in the room, in the locker room, but
also with with a lot of talent comes challenges because

(33:33):
not everybody's gonna get to play, even when they should
deserve to play, you know, not everything and and and
so we we started the year talking about we over
me and every time a new player came in, they
hadn't been in our locker room since April. But the
players in our locker room lived that. They showed them
how to live. That they they they they held them

(33:54):
accountable to that, and and that that connectedness, that sacrifice
for one another, the sacon or fight.

Speaker 3 (34:00):
For the team.

Speaker 5 (34:02):
Uh, it just it enabled us to find another level
and another year. And you know, it's in sport, it's
about getting hot at the right time. And this group
did that. I think, you know, when we did it
was a result of that had probably been the team
that had been together the longest throughout the course of
the season. And again, as we know in sports, especially

(34:23):
when you're watching it from an analytical perspective and not
a fan perspective, it does take time to build that
chemistry and connectedness and connectivity on the floor. And that
group had the time to do it. I'm not sure
at any other point in the season we had a
consistent enough you know, eight, nine, ten, players that were
playing that we were able to do that.

Speaker 1 (34:44):
When you look at Stephanie White, the head coach of
the Fever, is our guest coach over the course of
the year, you know, especially with when you have a
player like Caitlin Clark who is such a transcendent star. Right,
So you're going to have people following what your team
is doing that maybe didn't even follow the U the
NBA three years ago. You're gonna have people that don't
follow the WNBA but follow Caitlyn Clark, et cetera. From

(35:05):
a coaching standpoint at times, that can create no win
situations because you're gonna be scrutinized in whichever way you
play it in any aspect when it comes to a
player like that. There was critique of Stephanie White at
the beginning of the year before really Caitlyn Clark went
down with injury, just over the play and then the
way things came together and the fact that at the

(35:27):
end of the year everyone's saying this is coach at
the year level stuff. Did you feel vindicated?

Speaker 3 (35:33):
Yeah, I mean, you know, obviously we don't really do
it to for other people's opinions.

Speaker 5 (35:40):
You know, it's it's I had a coach when I
very first started coaching. Tell me, if I started listening
to the people that were that were in the stands,
then I wouldn't be coaching very long and I'd be
sitting with them before too long.

Speaker 3 (35:50):
So, you know, we don't do it for that. We
don't do it for them. You know. We do it
for our players and our team. And we do it
because we love the game.

Speaker 5 (36:00):
Man.

Speaker 3 (36:00):
We do it because we love the sport.

Speaker 5 (36:03):
You know, I love this franchise, and nobody is ever
going to be happy. You know. I appreciate uh fever
basketball fans in particular, and basketball fans from the state
of Indiana, because they know the game. They understand the
nuance of the game. And and so for me, uh,
it wasn't really about vindication. It was about just putting
the best team and and that we could forward. I

(36:27):
understand that it doesn't happen, you know, automatically. I also
understand that that it that it's it's one of those
things that you have to get lucky, Like you don't
just go win championships, like it is hard to get
to the finals. It is hard to win championships.

Speaker 3 (36:43):
I know that there are.

Speaker 5 (36:44):
Teams who make it look easy, and sometimes there are
dynasties that make it look easy. But because of my
experience in this sport and twenty six years in this league,
you know, I understand the difference and have been a
part of some really great teams and have also been
a part of of the franchise obviously when it first started.
So so I don't know vindicated is the right word,

(37:05):
as much as I just feel incredibly proud.

Speaker 3 (37:09):
Of the foundation that we laid in terms of our culture.

Speaker 5 (37:12):
I feel really proud of the group that came together
to find a way no matter what.

Speaker 3 (37:20):
I feel really proud.

Speaker 5 (37:21):
Of my staff because I do feel like we have
the best staff you know in the league, and we're
creative and we're we try to think outside the box
and we try to put people in positions to be successful.
And so I think more than anything, I just the
word that comes to mind at the end of the
year is just pride.

Speaker 1 (37:39):
When you look at the league itself from the time
that you played to now, Stephanie White, in the growth
of the league and the growth of the growth of
the interest of the league. One of the byproducts of
that is that means that the business aspect of it
is going to be scrutinized and people are going to
pay a lot more attention to it. That's become obviously,
and we're heading into an off season that's going to
be fascinating with the collective bargain. And then you have

(38:01):
the commissioner, Kathy Engelbert. I know you're aware of the
comments that THEFISTA call you're made, and then Kitlyn Clark
kind of getting brought into that, Caitlyn Clark responding to it.
What has been your overall assessment of that dialogue and
as it relates to your star player.

Speaker 3 (38:17):
Yeah, I mean I hate I hate it all for Caitlin.

Speaker 5 (38:21):
You know, I feel like, you know, she's a twenty
three year old kid who loves to play this game,
who is a pawn in a lot of other people's
games and a lot of other people's narratives, and I
hate that for her.

Speaker 4 (38:34):
You know.

Speaker 3 (38:34):
It's it's we're coming into a time in the w
n B A where we're where we're.

Speaker 5 (38:41):
Kind of part of the growing pains of becoming quote
unquote mainstreams professional sport is some of this stuff.

Speaker 3 (38:50):
You know, I do.

Speaker 5 (38:52):
Think that we are at a pivotal moment in terms
of the league's history. And look, I was a part
of the very first collective bargaining agreement of the w
NBA where we wanted insurance all year long. So now
where it is growing and players do deserve more, and
leadership needs to reflect, uh, where we are as a
league and and and and also understand where we are

(39:14):
as a league and where players perspectives are coming from.
And you know we have coaches on the sidelines and
and Becky Hammond and myself and of course no Equinn
who was in Seattle, who played in this league, who
like this.

Speaker 3 (39:26):
League is is is part of our of our of
our lifeblood.

Speaker 5 (39:30):
Like we we have grown up in this league and
we take pride in this league and the success of
this league. And we also take pride in understanding what
needs to be done and in leadership. And part of
leadership is taking accountability. Part of leadership is is owning
how we move the needle. Part of leadership is not
just recognizing uh, the people who who who are part

(39:53):
of this this league, but empowering and embracing and understanding.

Speaker 3 (39:59):
Uh what they bring.

Speaker 5 (40:00):
And you know, your employees are your number one asset
and and so I I do feel like we're we're
at a pivotal moment. I do feel like we're at
a time where where all things have to be considered
and where multiple truths are do exist, certainly, and I
think that sometimes right now in our in our country
and in our world, we we forget that multiple truths
can't exist. But you know, I think we are at

(40:22):
that at that point to begin to have these very
hard conversations about what it looks like moving forward.

Speaker 1 (40:28):
Do you believe the w n b A has the
leadership right now that it needs?

Speaker 5 (40:35):
You know, it's I think it's a tough question because
I do believe that that where we are and where
we have been, especially from a business standpoint, you know,
it's it's.

Speaker 3 (40:43):
It's it's what we've needed.

Speaker 5 (40:46):
I do think that there's another layer and level to
having someone who who understands the basketball side of the league,
and whether that's direct leadership or whether that's you know,
building out our basketball operation, our department, you know, within
the league. I do think that the more that we
can get former players involved, the more that we can

(41:07):
get people who have grown up in this league who
don't see this league as it was ten years ago
as it was fifteen years ago. You know, you've got
to see the league for what it is now and
where it's going. Much in the same way that college
sports is not what it was ten years ago, not
what it was five years ago. The w NBA is
not what it was ten years ago. And I do
think that there are some folks in leadership position who

(41:31):
still think of it that way. So I think we
do need some addition to our basketball operations part of
the league, and I think we do need some forward
thinking in that as well. But more than anything, accountability
can go a long way, and we just want some
accountability for some of the concerns that have been consistent

(41:53):
concerns for multiple years.

Speaker 1 (41:55):
Do you with Caitlin Clark in this as we move forward,
coach like navigating through just being that that pawn as
you said, does she have kind of her own team
that that that guides are through that or does she
lean on you a lot in that regard as well?

Speaker 3 (42:13):
Look, she's she is so mature for her age.

Speaker 5 (42:17):
I mean, Jake, thinking back to when we were twenty
three years old.

Speaker 3 (42:20):
Holy cow, I know it was.

Speaker 5 (42:21):
A long time ago, five years ago, right, But but
she's so mature. She she she has people, you know,
in her corner and and people that can that can
help her.

Speaker 3 (42:33):
She she gets it.

Speaker 5 (42:34):
She understands the big picture. You know, we'll have conversations.
You know, I've I've been in a very small way
in some of the some of the situations that she's
been in, you know, certainly not with with social media
and all of that stuff. But you know, we've got
players or in staff that that have played in this league,

(42:55):
but but no one outside of Tiger Woods, right A,
Serena Will you can probably name just maybe a handful
more of athletes who have been the game changers and
who have experienced what Caitlin Clark is experiencing, so that
no one can can really relate to what she's going through.
I think the biggest thing is we can be there

(43:16):
for her. You know, we can, we can offer perspective
and do what we can to help, you know, deflect
and navigate. But at the same time, you know, it's
it's a life that she has to lead, and you know,
I think she does it admirably. I'm not sure that
myself at twenty three years old or myself at forty

(43:38):
eight years old could do it in the same way
that she does with so much grace and humility.

Speaker 1 (43:43):
Lastly, Coach, I wanted to share this and it's it
sounds personal, but it's public and I'll tell you why.
And I know that I've pointed this out to you.
I've mentioned this on the radio before as well. But
over the course of this season, my dad has gone
through a challenging medical period and while he is hopefully

(44:04):
and thankfully looks like he's going to be okay, it's
not to say that it has not been along road
with a lot of challenges. And the one thing, literally
the one thing on the daily basis that was like
my assignment, was to make sure on his board where
he is getting his treatments, that he knows when the
next fever game's on. He has his fever hat that
he would put on for every game. He's been a

(44:25):
lifelong sports fan. I don't know that I've seen him
magnetize towards a group and towards a team in giving
him on a day to day basis a purpose like
what you guys did. And I say that not for
the awkward nature of a personal story on the radio,

(44:45):
but because I think it's a public one because I
think so many people in this town found that and
saw that, and I hope, while I know it's been
a disappointment in the way the year ended for you guys,
and you have a lot going on that at some
point you're able to it back and accept the gratitude
of a city and of a state for representing it
the right way and giving a lot of people a purpose.

Speaker 5 (45:09):
Well, I appreciate that, Jake, Thank you so much. And
you know this, like I said, this, this group is
you mentioned it doing it the right way, you know,
leading by example, and we we we often talk about,
you know, sport is the greatest, is the greatest indicator
of life and of life lessons.

Speaker 3 (45:29):
And I think that this.

Speaker 5 (45:30):
Group, uh has has shown, community has shown, you know,
the league has shown the nation, you know, a lot
of really good life lessons and been leaders in a
lot of different ways, and so I'm really proud of them.

Speaker 1 (45:43):
Well, coach, enjoy the off season. I know there's still
a lot of work to do. You are welcome back anytime,
but I am most most, most most grateful for your
time over the course of the season.

Speaker 3 (45:53):
I appreciate Jake, Thank.

Speaker 1 (45:54):
You Stephanie White, the head coach of the Indiana Fever.
All right, a lot more to get you. We'll get
back into that injury report for the Colts and Raiders
coming up on Sunday, because there are some key names
in it, and as well, Kyle Nettrip going to join us.
Still on the program today, Kevin Bowen, and it's a
Franciscan health feel good good for the hard Friday. All
still to come here ninety three five one on seventy
five the Fan. You know, every once in a while

(46:20):
and there is big news to get to here in
literally just a moment that I will get to about
the Colts and the Raiders. But every once in a
while on social media, you'll see somebody that'll post something
and then the comments just are the best, like just
average everyday people that and you know, we're like a.

Speaker 2 (46:35):
Couple of middle school boys in here just giggling on
some of the stuff that'll question out there on the internet.

Speaker 1 (46:39):
So you've heard JAMV and I talk on a regular
basis about the awesomeness that was the nineteen seventies and
early eighties NFL pajama set. You had, you had under Rus,
you had the pajamas, You had the trash can, you
had letter jackets.

Speaker 2 (46:54):
I had all of it, I mean all of it.
Did you have the one that you saw?

Speaker 6 (46:58):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (46:59):
I have photos of me with the robe and they
all were made in this like terrible, this weird polyester
nit deal. And this ad that was posted somebody just
posted I think it was Super seventy Sports posted it,
and it's an ad from the nineteen seventies for the
NFL pajamas.

Speaker 2 (47:17):
Did you have those specific ones that they were highlighting
in the adjacent.

Speaker 1 (47:21):
Yes, But the one in there at the top, it's
the selling point of the ad in like nineteen seventy
seven says flame retardant, and it has a picture of
a kid in his Vikings pajamas and it's and the
above it it says, if the house is on fire,
don't worry about little Johnny. He's upstairs at his Vikings pajamas.

(47:43):
And then the comments are fabulous. But somebody said, you know,
like Johnny started the fire because they fell asleep with
a lung dart, you know whatever. But those pajamas like
I had, I think everybody somebody else commented, they said,
my gosh, is if it was wasn't bad enough in
the eighties worrying about being abducted in nuclear war. Now

(48:03):
we had house fires breaking out in the middle of
the night to worry about. Based on that ad. But
the static electricity from those pajamas, literally, you'd get up
and take one step in the morning, you look like
Doc Brown. I mean, the static electricity would shock through
you like nobody's business.

Speaker 2 (48:21):
You didn't need a night light. You just rub up
against something. You'd be sparking out.

Speaker 1 (48:25):
No question. Although if it was for a night light
instead of the nightlight, you just reached over and turned
on your NFL lamp, which I also had and still have,
mind you. And is that an antique, boy, it's got
to be close because it's from probably nineteen seventy eight.
And again, and I know that you know Ed Holleran
hollers at the clouds over the fact that I mentioned

(48:48):
that when I was a kid, I was a Steelers fan,
and he like thinks I should be, you know, kicked
out of Indiana permanently because I did not grow up
a Colts fan. But Ed doesn't seem to grasp that
that was hard for me to do because in nineteen
seventy eight, nineteen seventy nine, nineteen eighty, nineteen eighty one,
nineteen eighty two. When I was a kid, the Colts
were in Baltimore and then were terrible, mind you, but

(49:09):
for those pajama sets and everything else. You basically you've
heard me mention this a thousand times. You had your
choice between Colts, Steelers, Packers, Vikings, oddly enough maybe Bengals
and Bears, and then the other one would be the Raiders,
who are coming here this Sunday. And by the way,
Steelers was the team because my dad worked in the

(49:30):
steel business that I had like, Raiders are coming here.
And here's what we know in terms of the Colts,
do we happen to have the breaking news sounder Eddie Tyler, Goodson,
Kenny Moore, the second, Daniel Scott, and Alec Pierce have

(49:59):
all been ruled out for the Colts game coming up
Sunday against the Las Vegas Raiders. Now that's not to
say that there are not others that you keep an
eye on to see. For example, on you know, Matt
Gonzalvez on the right side of the line. He did
participate in practice all week, but he did not play

(50:20):
week goo But it looks like he is going to
be good to go. But there is a receiver for
the Colts, Eddie that appeared on the injury report kind
of at the last minute, right.

Speaker 2 (50:29):
Yeah, Alexis. But on Alec pierce front, Jake statin Steichen
said that he didn't clear tusher protocol. Obviously, Pierce felt
bad after practicing on Thursday. Now, the receiver that ended
up on the injury report after yesterday's practice that wasn't
on there following Wednesdays was Michael Pittman Jr.

Speaker 1 (50:48):
With a tissue issue. It was a hamstring injury. A
tissue issue. Yeah, I don't know that I would want
any injury of mine listed as a tissue issue.

Speaker 2 (50:59):
Right, it's a hamstring injury. He was not listed as
a tissue issue.

Speaker 1 (51:03):
I thought you said it was a tissue issue.

Speaker 2 (51:05):
Well, yeah, I mean the hamstring is a tissue. The
hamstring is a muscle, isn't it. The soft tissue is injury.
I thought the soft tissue is I was thinking tissue injury.
I guess you're right. I was thinking tissue injuries were.

Speaker 1 (51:20):
Like when they have like ligament stuff like sprained ankle,
that kind of thing is always listed as a tissue.
Can you look that up as a tissue the ligaments
or is the tissue muscle? It refers to damage occurring
to the soft parts of the muscule. I can't even
say that word any muscular muscular skeletal system. There we go,
including muscles and ligaments. So basically anything that can tear

(51:42):
is a soft tissue. Otherwise it's a bone, right, But
I would expect that Pittman goes right. You would think
so for the Colts. And then on the other side
of it, you know, brock Bowers still is a question
mark for the Raiders, but I think for sure Bowers
goes I think he plays. It's just a matter of

(52:05):
you know, how effective he's going to be. But he
is the kind of player that is effective regardless of
the number of looks he's getting if he's not getting
open in space. I don't know that you're worried about
it just because of the fact that he has the ability.
Does brock Bowers like Tyler Warren? You know, did you

(52:27):
ever play? You know I didn't, so Eddie, certainly I
would assume that you did not. But there was a
game years ago around the time of the Flame retardant pajamas. Okay,
there were these games that you could get that were
magnetic football games, and there would be one little I

(52:51):
don't even know how it worked exactly, but you would
turn it on and there were all the little army
looking guys, but there were football players on the on
this metallic field, and you know, and they'd barely move
around and there was like one and then it would
it would magnetize and the pieces could come on. There
was always one piece that just kind of like floated

(53:12):
around on its own, and other things kind of magnetized
towards it. That's essentially what Tyler Warren and brock Bauers
both are for their respective offenses. The Yes, the Raiders,
like the Colts, have a dynamic running back in their
backfield that you assume can open things up and get
things going for you, but so much of that is

(53:36):
based upon the defense being softened out or stretched out.
You know, I'm going to give you the worst analogy
of all time.

Speaker 2 (53:47):
Oh okay, I'll just go ahead and I'll fire the sounder.

Speaker 1 (53:51):
Here's okay. I use this analogy when I do track
tours for IndyCar stuff, and it's probably more applicable when
trying to distinguish the difference between the softer compound red
tires and the primary tires in IndyCar racing. But follow

(54:12):
me here, Eddie. You have had bazooka gum before? Correct?

Speaker 3 (54:16):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (54:16):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (54:17):
Or bubble gum hubbah bubba bubble is just yes, yes,
when you take that gum okay, and you before you
really start chewing it and you know it's been in
your mouth for a while and you can you're blowing
bubbles with it and whatever else. When you first get
that that piece of bazuka bubble gum, I mean, it's

(54:37):
like you drop it on the ground. It's like a
piece of plastic, right.

Speaker 2 (54:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (54:42):
But then eventually, after it's been in use a little bit,
when you can begin to stretch it out. Now, all
of a sudden, it is much easier to not only
blow a bubble, but the expansion of it. It is
a lot lighter, and it's easier to poke something through
it if you will.

Speaker 2 (54:57):
Big League two, you can get some gnarly bubbles.

Speaker 1 (55:01):
Yeah, but the flavor lasted like half an inning. Yep.
But what Tyler Warren and brock Bowers both do for
their respective offenses. Is it feels like when you look
at a defense, the Colts a year ago, offensively speaking,
allowed every defense to basically be a fresh out of

(55:24):
the rapper piece of Bazuka bubblegum. It just was this
block right there. They could load up the box and
you weren't worried about the defense didn't have to expand
and stretch itself out. But now when you get Tyler
Warren on the field and for the Raiders, Block Powers
is the same guy. As a matter of fact, you
would go so far as to say the Colts are
basically trying to emulate Brock Powers what those guys do,

(55:48):
because you can put them anywhere and you have to
constantly be aware of where they are. That defense now
is going from being that right out of the wrapper
piece of Bazuka bubblegum to one that's needing to be
stretched to cover as many areas of the field as possible,
and thus it is a lot easier to penetrate through
it once you break through. And that's what is so

(56:08):
important about brock Bauers for the Raiders, and the fact
that defensively you have to be aware, even if you
don't know whether or not they're going to test that
knee that he's gonna have wrapped to get him the football.
The reality is that you have to be aware of
where he is and that stretches you out now where
you just can't load that up and be that one

(56:29):
square piece.

Speaker 2 (56:31):
Also yes to agree. Also, Shane Steikeen was asked today
about the status of a d Mitchell and if I'll
play on Sunday and for some reason, Jake, I've seen
a lot of reporting that there was some random noises
and if you recall Jake, that that specific Jack and

(56:53):
that will care that happens when they're working through stuff.
That's right, That's that's right, and so yeah, Shane Steikeen's said,
we're working through that when asked about eighty Mitchell's playing
status for Sunday.

Speaker 1 (57:03):
Now just out of curiosity is that because and wait
for it here. But the other sound effect that you
can hear it and it doesn't necessarily come from the
field where you hear that noise of guys working through it,
but rather when you get back towards the locker room
area and near the showers, there are oftentimes guys that
simply afterwards, you know what they have to do correct, Eddie.
You can hear it. You can hear them singing it

(57:23):
from afar because if they once they work through some things,
then they can go out there. But if they just
have the slightest of hiccups, that means the next day
they've got to do this.

Speaker 2 (57:33):
And I bat on me, Jake, bad producer.

Speaker 1 (57:36):
I don't have a ready. You don't have the zestfully
clean sounder. I don't have already. I'm so sorry. That's
not a hot key. We need to have a meeting
about this. They have that hot key, we have that,
but you don't have the the the always popular we
got to clean it up sound bite. There we go.

(58:01):
That's the sound you hear once they've gone out there
and they just simply have to clean things up. This
is a process setting, not unlike this program. You know
what we got to do in this program, right, We
come in each and every day just to try to
get work done right at noon, right, And this is
what it sounds like when, of course we just come
in to try to get the job done. But then
if all of a sudden I asked for something and
there's a slight hiccup and a delay, it simply means

(58:23):
that we got to clean some things up. Right now,
you hear that first, and then you hear this. That's right,
you see that is the official sounder of last year's Colts.
But then they've gone to work. They put the hard
hats on and they're getting out there. But it is
curious to see who it without Alec Pierce. Pierce has

(58:47):
the same impact, to be honest with you as Warren
to an extent, and we didn't think that initially. We
thought Alec Pierce was the guy that was there to
open things up because you had to always be aware
of him for the long ball situation. I think we're
seeing that Daniel Jones does have that capability, maybe not
to the level of the unpredictability of when you can

(59:11):
get the long ball out of him like they did
with Anthony Richardson. But the thought process by so many people,
myself included going into the season was gosh, now that
Daniel Jones is the quarterback, then Alec Pierce he's got
to be it. Kinko's putting together his resume because he

(59:31):
is wemply a what's that he's where Kinkos? That's an
old uh. Now it's FedEx Okay, but that's where you
used to go, and you know he's on the LinkedIn
to put it in twenty twenty five terms, that was
the thought, because Pierce is a long ball receiver that
gets behind the defense and then boom, they don't have

(59:57):
anybody get in the bather now. And then all of
a sudden, as Shane Steichen has done really well, he
realizes and draws up play and comes up with different
ways to utilize pieces, and they started using Pierce in
a completely different way, right, in a completely different way.

Speaker 2 (01:00:15):
He just turned tried to turn himself into a more
complete receiver to where I forget who we've had on
that that's talked about this. Maybe it was Joeli Ericson.
I'm saying just the added element of Pierce being a
threat to operate in those intermediate routes opens up the
ability to stretch the field because before you could just
sit on it and you would know that, hey, Pierce

(01:00:36):
is primarily going to run a go or a deep
post and and that's all he's gonna do. Now you
have to you have to be a little more cognizantive
and aware of the fact that hey, he could cut
over the cut over the middle of the field. And
next thing, you know, that's another added element and you
can get Tyler Warren running behind it. Like there's so
many things now that you can do when Alec Pierce
is out there because of the fact that he has
now put it on tape that he can win over

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the middle of the field.

Speaker 1 (01:00:59):
Hey, Jake, I was at Kinko's last week, justin and
Fisher's let's go. Have you asked you this? What's ed?

Speaker 2 (01:01:06):
Let me ask you this on the ad front? How
do you handle that? How would you handle it? Because
I think I may have a different opinion than you.

Speaker 1 (01:01:19):
Adie Mitchell. I'm not in the locker room right And
when I say that, and I don't mean I don't
mean like I'm not in there doing interviews. I mean literally,
we are not in there behind closed doors right to hear.

Speaker 2 (01:01:39):
What is actually said correct or in the meeting rooms
for that matter.

Speaker 1 (01:01:44):
I know that. Here's the thing I would say about
the situation with Adie Mitchell. I think you have to
read into the way the teammates reacted to him. If
Ady Mitchell is an immature guy that is footloose and

(01:02:08):
fancy free and just doesn't get it. The narrative on
him coming out of college was the fact that he
there were red flags. Those red flags were a combination
of lack of attention to detail, lack of understanding of
what needs to be done, potential lack of professionalism. That's

(01:02:29):
why ten receivers went before him. He's a talented guy
out of a pedigree program, but there were red flags.
He did not get off to a great start as
a rookie, not because of any sort of from what
we could tell you big indiscretion, but just the numbers
weren't there, The production was not there. The reality is

(01:02:52):
from a public standpoint and in game situation, and if
I'm forgetting one, feel free to remind or correct me
at But I don't know that there has been a
game where we have seen that egregious a back to
back for him in his career so far. I mean
there have been times where he's been quiet, but in
terms of just bone headed plays, yeah, and it absolutely

(01:03:17):
merits a discipline of some sort or an awakening. But
I think you have to look at the way that
his teammates reacted to him and supported him and supported him,
and not just it's one thing for guys to come
out and say, you know, I've had co workers, and

(01:03:38):
I want to be very clear, none of them that
work here currently, but I've had co workers in my
past that people ask me about it and I'm like, oh, yeah,
good guy, and I say the right thing, but deep down,
I'm like, na, he's like the most toxic person I've
ever been around, right, but I say the right things publicly.
So I understand that when we are asking questions, that

(01:04:00):
we are asking questions that a lot of times athletes
in general are going to keep things kind of private
and not air out what goes on. But you can
see it in body language and when players are going
out of their way to be the one to speak
up without being asked about it. So it does appear

(01:04:22):
as though it is a locker room that for now
wants Ady Mitchell to get like his you know, he
needs to learn from it. But he is remorseful, he
has stepped up, he has apologized to the team. He
and it does seem like it's a locker room that
wants him to succeed. So therefore there is an element

(01:04:47):
of from a leadership standpoint, allowing within the pack to
let those guys sort it out themselves and let the
DeForest Buckner's and the Zire Franklin's and you know, offensively,
probably Quintin Else's and everybody says is a real offensive leader.
You know, let those guys be the ones to kind
of handle the situation. I think sometimes in coaching and

(01:05:08):
sometimes in any walk of life, that the best management
sometimes is recognizing and understanding when to interfere and when
to let the natural process sort itself out. And if
you are the Indianapolis Colts and you're Chris Bollen and
Shane Steiken, you have to trust that part of your

(01:05:29):
job was not only in who you selected on your roster,
but how you have coached them. And I hate to
use the term culture because it's so overused, but the
culture that you've created. At some point you have to
allow that to stand on its own legs, where you
then let that take care of itself, and you trust
that what you have laid out for them in terms

(01:05:51):
of what the anticipation and expectation not only of what
you want from players, but what you want from them
as teammates, sorts itself out. So for this situation to
answer your question, because from what we can see it's
really the first of what was it's the first big
red flag that's been waived. I think for the first situation,

(01:06:15):
you let it play out organically and you trust that
the players that the other players that you've selected. What
did Chris Ballard want say that you could take players
that were of question if you had a locker room
that was of not because that would take care of itself.
This is the t pat Knight, Pat Knight, what did

(01:06:35):
he say? You could have one knucklehead, but if you
have two, they breed.

Speaker 2 (01:06:38):
Yeah, right, of course that's replacing an expletive that we can't.

Speaker 1 (01:06:41):
Sell the radio. But that's what he said, right, I mean,
patly get you can have one, but you get too
they breed.

Speaker 2 (01:06:46):
I would like to just see them. Let him have
the opportunity to prove that he's put it behind him.

Speaker 1 (01:06:51):
That's what I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:06:52):
Don't put him on a snap count, don't even like,
don't try to. I guess you can't consider mentioning it.
But I think it's a little bit of greecious because
I just don't think you need to go to those
extreme levels. But see how he responds this week. Don't
back out there like you did last week without Alec Pearce.
How does he respond? That is the big part of
this because it will test the maturity, it'll test the professionalism.

(01:07:13):
Of course, we can't see how he operated all week
in practice, but we can see how he's operating out there,
you know, on Sunday against the Raiders. Like, if it's
me personally, I would like to see them go to
Adie Mitchell right away, get him the ball, let him
have that last week out of his mind, get him going,
and the flow of the offense a little bit, you know,
the bill is confidence in his swagger up a little bit.

Speaker 1 (01:07:34):
That show that I watched last night, the first two
episodes of it, if you were not with us, at
the top of the show, I mentioned that I was
watching the Rams game against the Niners, and I was
curious as to the way that Max Jones played against
Los Angeles. Does that give us any glimpse as to
who we do or don't have here in Indiapolis with

(01:07:56):
Daniel Jones. Because Jones threw two picks, although again he
was very rushed. I mean, there were lot of factors
that go into that. But as I'm sitting there thinking
about that, and that game ended and I'm a moron.
I didn't realize because I was watching the game obviously
on Prime. I didn't realize that I have like that
my cable system. And yes, I mean I do pay,
you know. I mean it's I have like the full

(01:08:16):
bundle or whatever now, and so it's got all these
different apps and I didn't realize that I had all
of them on there. And then I got to look
at like okay, which one of these are monthly bills,
which one are trials? Whatever else? But I went on Hulu,
I'm like okay, and I clicked on it, and the
first thing that popped up was, you know, knew Hulu
original show. I'll give this a try. I don't even

(01:08:37):
know anything about it. Boom, I hit on it. I
should have known about it. Chad Powers is the name
of the show. It was produced by the Manning brothers,
and the show itself is about a guy that was
a famed college quarterback at Oregon that falls into disgrace,
his career comes to an end, and then he kind

(01:08:58):
of pulls a Missus Doubt fire. It's based on a
skit Eli Manning had done a couple of years ago.
But he pulls a missus doubt fire to change his
identity and go to a new school and try to
relaunch his career. Okay, so it's kind of a comedy.
It's not a bad show. It was. I enjoyed it.
I watched two episodes. Whatever. But the interesting thing is
no spoiler alert here, but the show begins with his

(01:09:19):
disgrace comes in the National Championship game against Oregon where
he is running for a touchdown and wait for it,
he drops the ball at the one yard line and
then boom. We've seen it not once but twice in
Indianapolis in the last two years.

Speaker 2 (01:09:32):
You know, I wonder if they had to do this
after Jake. You know, if you try going down on
the Circle, you'll hear this or it is unbelievable.

Speaker 1 (01:09:43):
They haven't had steps out here, literally, and I've worked
here for how long now?

Speaker 2 (01:09:47):
Or hell, you can go down market or Capital and
you can go down in Illinois. Should that's all you here?

Speaker 1 (01:09:53):
I'm not kidding you. The steps on Monument Circle like
we will. I don't know what the stadium will ultimately
replace Lucas Oil Stadium, but Lucas Oil Stadium already now
is like six years away from the age the RCAA
doom was when we imploded it. I kid you not.
We will have a new stadium proposal funding and one

(01:10:16):
built that looks like Jerry World in this town and
they still won't have the steps repaired. On Monument Circle,
It's unbelievable. There's like one guy out there having a
couple of heaters standing around, debris everywhere.

Speaker 2 (01:10:30):
A couple lung darts, a couple lung darts.

Speaker 1 (01:10:33):
Kyle Netton written by the way, high school football, lots
of guys getting to work under the lights on Friday
night lights. We'll talk to him about it next. So
that show I mentioned, Chad Powers, it's I mean, it's
a fun show. It's not a serious a show to
be taken seriously at all, and it's got obviously it's

(01:10:53):
you know, I mean, you got to suspend some reality
when you're watching it. But essentially what happens is this
guy who's this quarterback in a big game. His team lost,
primarily simply because he was completely clueless as to how
to act, especially once they lost the game.

Speaker 6 (01:11:08):
Right, speaking of lost and clueless, So we bring on
Kyle Needdrip from The Ndstar.

Speaker 1 (01:11:12):
That's exactly right, because it's Friday night under the lights.
Tonight big games, including one that he is going to
be seeing a player that I did not realize. Right
here in Indiana we have one of the top recruits
in the country as an underclassman. I think that's one
of them that Kyle, Needd and Rip will see tonight.
But we'll get to that. Kyle, how are you.

Speaker 6 (01:11:29):
Hey doing well? Have you watched that show yet?

Speaker 1 (01:11:31):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (01:11:31):
That's pretty good.

Speaker 1 (01:11:32):
So have you watched it?

Speaker 6 (01:11:34):
I only know of it. I have not watched an
episode yet.

Speaker 1 (01:11:37):
There are two episodes. Here's what I like about it, okay,
And for those that are unfamiliar, this is the show
that was largely put together by Omahall Productions, which is
Peyton and Eli Manning. It is taken off of the
skit that many people probably saw where Eli Manning went
into sguise and showed up and I can't remember what
school it was and acted like he was walking on
And it's the same premise. A guy you know is

(01:12:00):
trying to resurrect his football career, so he goes in
you know, missus doubt fire basically, so yeah, I mean
it's hokey and cheesy, but it is fun. And each
episode's like thirty five minutes, right, So yeah, I liked it,
to be honest, It's only two episodes in, but I
liked it nice.

Speaker 6 (01:12:15):
It feels like we miss comedies now, so I was
gonna check it out.

Speaker 1 (01:12:18):
Have you seen did you the only others that I've
seen of late? And I know that this is really
you know, cliche here, but did you watch Ted Lasso?

Speaker 6 (01:12:28):
I don't, uh whatever app that whatever that's on and
we don't have it, so I've only seen a friend's ass.
I watched a couple episodes, but have not watched the
whole thing.

Speaker 1 (01:12:36):
I mean, it's it's awesome. Now another one, but if
you didn't watch, I think the same because I'm with you, Kyle,
like I never know what study you know, I'm always like, no,
which one's that on? Because there's like twenty eight different apps?
Right land Man, have you seen that with Billy Bob Thornton.
It's not a comedy, but it has a lot of
funny parts in it. Have you seen that? Yeah?

Speaker 6 (01:12:54):
I did start on that because that was I watched
nineteen twenty three was that and enjoyed that. I think
that's on the same streaming platform, right that's right.

Speaker 1 (01:13:04):
I think, yeah, those might be paramount. Yeah. And then
the other one is Stick, which is kind of like
ted Lasso but not near as good, but has Owen
Wilson and it's about golf and it takes place in Indiana.
It's pretty good.

Speaker 6 (01:13:15):
Okay, I heard about that one too.

Speaker 1 (01:13:17):
It's good. All right. So let's get to the games
that you'll be streaming if you will, not really you'll
be watching them in person tonight. You are going to
be at Warren Central and Lawrence North. Correct.

Speaker 6 (01:13:28):
Yeah, you mentioned Manchune Sales. The five star receiver that
Lawrence North has and pretty cool honor for him. I
don't remember how many you know, five stars we've had.
I mean, there haven't been a ton, I would say
to reach that stature. You know, it's basically talking about
top twenty five in his class in the country, and
he's actually twenty four to seven Sports, which does a

(01:13:51):
good job covering, you know, recruiting and you know, in
my opinion, doing rankings and things like that. They have
him number six this week that came out, so you know,
that's a that's a pretty cool honor for him.

Speaker 1 (01:14:03):
I mean, he is what year he's only a junior.

Speaker 6 (01:14:06):
So this is the twenty twenty seven class, so he's Kyle.

Speaker 1 (01:14:10):
What's interesting to me about this is and you tell me,
I mean, you cover high school sports. You know, typically
if a player is a top ten national level player
in basketball, we know of them as a household name
by the time they're like a sophomore. But yet it
seems like we see more of from the football standpoint,

(01:14:32):
players not getting on that radar until the latter part
of their high school career. Am I off base in
saying that, No.

Speaker 6 (01:14:40):
That's totally correct. I would say, And even sales last
year was really good. You know, Lawrence North was, you know,
and if they would have made it the state, I
think he would probably be a name that's even more
out there. But they, you know, Brownsburg flipped him by
one point in the regional, so they he didn't quite
get on that stage. But he had a great year
last year. But even to your point, as a freshman,
you know, he was not even on varsity. So you know,

(01:15:02):
when you're talking about basketball, normally those top players are
already you know, they come into freshman year and they're
you know, even if they're not a star player, they're
already like, oh, that kid's gonna be a star.

Speaker 5 (01:15:14):
You know.

Speaker 6 (01:15:14):
Whereas football, you know, you oftentimes don't put a fourteen
fifteen year old kid out there against eighteen year olds
just because they're not you know, your body's just not
ready for that yet. So it's pretty rare even for
him like last year. You know, he's so much better
this year than last year. I would say, you know,
and just I'm looking forward to seeing him play tonight.
But he you know, you could see it last year

(01:15:35):
like he was the you know, he he's a very
physical uh specimen, you know, six foot four or five,
you know, and then you know, so he looks the
part walking in and then you watch him play and
it's like, okay, but he wasn't you know, Davion Chandler
was their top receiver last year and he went to
AU uh so even last year he wasn't their top
you know, top at that position. Even so you know,
to your point, that's I think that's absolutely correct. There

(01:15:58):
are there are kids who come in and you know,
play more as a freshman, but I would say more
of the time that's at the probably at the smaller
class levels or you know, depending on positions. Sometimes sometimes
you see a freshman quarterback come in, but you know,
some of the more physical positions, it takes, you know,
it takes a couple of years for most most kids.

Speaker 3 (01:16:16):
Man.

Speaker 1 (01:16:16):
I mean I'm looking at it right here, Okay, six
five five, So obviously there's a little bit of bulk
that needs to go on there, right But you know,
and already, I mean just the list of schools, I
mean it's basically everyone. Clearly he's going to have his
choice of where he wants to go. But to go
back further on this, are we talking about and it's
pronounced is it Monshun? Is that how you say his

(01:16:37):
first name? Yeah? Monjune sales at Lawrence North. Are we
are we talking about somebody that is now on the
radar because of just the intangibles quote unquote, or is
their body of work on the field where you go, Yeah,
I mean, this guy's been a different level already or
is it more so what it looks like he's going

(01:16:58):
to grow into.

Speaker 6 (01:17:00):
I think it's a combination. I mean, he is producing,
you know, and he did, like I said, last year,
he had like probably six hundred yards close to that
receiving and also what I think helps him. Jake too,
is he ran track this past spring and his numbers
are really good. You know, I don't have him out
the top of my head, but he he performed really
well in track, so you could kind of see the
track speed translate to football and when you're doing that

(01:17:21):
at the height he's at, I mean, that's that's he's
not not like he's a five to ten you know,
speed burner. He's a six four speed burner, six five speeds.
So so that I think also is a good thing
for him. And Pat Mallory, the coach at l N.
You know, he he coaches tracks, so he gets a
lot of his football guys to do track. And what
a great you know thing that is because you know

(01:17:44):
those track you know, track numbers translate, you know, and
then those track workouts translate. So I think that helped
him too. And he just looks like a you know,
I haven't said this will be the first time tonight
I've seen him in person this year other than practices,
but uh, you know everything, you know, he just physical
more just I wouldn't even say more physical, just more built,

(01:18:04):
you know, more just comfortable I think with with who
he is and as a player that's you know, very
much obvious. And they have a new quarterback this year too,
so that's another transition that they have quarterback last year
graduated and they have a really good one this year,
Darien Prather. But but yeah, I mean, he he, you know,
And I always kind of, you always kind of worry

(01:18:24):
about kids getting ranked too highly because then it's almost
like where do you have to go from there? You know,
it kind of becomes a thing where it's like, you know,
he didn't rank himself. There other kids I've covered, like,
you know, they didn't ask to be ranked that highly,
so you know, but then the criticism comes to when
you don't put up two hundred yards a game or
score thirty points a game, you know. And in gosh,
I heard so many adults ragging on high school kids

(01:18:47):
for for that sort of thing. I can't count how
many times. But but yeah, I mean, I I definitely
think he's gonna be able to choose wherever he wants
to go, and it's gonna be you know, it's going
to be a blue blood school or whatever you want
to categorize that as he's going to have his choice
of whatever he wants to go to.

Speaker 1 (01:19:05):
Kyle, when you look at this week in Kyle and Edrip,
Indianapolis Star high school football writer is our guest this
weekend Lucas Oil Stadium, it's the Colts and the Raiders.
Raiders are a team that you know, there was some
question about him coming into the year, but we talked
to JT. The Brick yesterday who does Raiders radio, and
he was saying he's like, look, the time is now.
If they don't get a win now, then it's it

(01:19:27):
is a boulder in the stream game perhaps for Las Vegas.
I know we're a little later in the high school slate,
but is there a team that you look at and
you say, expected a little bit more and this is
the weekend where it's got to get going in the
right direction for them.

Speaker 7 (01:19:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:19:43):
I mean I would say JT the Brick too, what man,
I remember listening to him back in the day. I
didn't know he was doing Raiders. He probably has done
that for a long time.

Speaker 1 (01:19:50):
Yeah, he's out. He's been in Vegas he said for
twenty four years or something like that.

Speaker 6 (01:19:54):
Yeah, okay, I remember listening to him on I think
he's doing overnights. Maybe when I was delivering Domino's pizzas
back in the day.

Speaker 1 (01:20:00):
But regardless, I would Yeah, I mean deliver a lot
of Dominoes in the late night. Yes, what was your
what was your shift? Let's hold the phone here on
the on the football question. What was your shift while
you were delivering Domino's pizza? Count?

Speaker 3 (01:20:14):
Then?

Speaker 6 (01:20:15):
Oh, what did I walk into here? I'm uh the trap?

Speaker 5 (01:20:19):
Uh?

Speaker 6 (01:20:20):
I think we closed on weeknights. We were at two
a m. So I worked a lot of the back
in the day. They would give you a pager though,
if they let you off that you were.

Speaker 1 (01:20:27):
Like a mix a lot run around.

Speaker 6 (01:20:30):
Yeah, okay, right, they would give you, give you a pager.

Speaker 1 (01:20:32):
And the doctors right.

Speaker 6 (01:20:36):
For for a rush, they would bring you back in.
Uh but uh, yeah, I think it was two o'clock
or so.

Speaker 1 (01:20:41):
You ever pick up any chicks that thought you were
a surgeon because you'll run around with your beeper.

Speaker 6 (01:20:45):
I don't think so. No, I don't remember that happening.

Speaker 1 (01:20:47):
What in what community were you delivering Domino's pizzas at
two in the morning?

Speaker 6 (01:20:52):
This was in uh, Lincoln, Nebraska when I was in well,
I guess it was college and then I come home
in high school and then I come home for.

Speaker 1 (01:20:58):
College and I do that too. What was the biggest
tip you ever got or the craziest situation you ever
drove yourself into?

Speaker 6 (01:21:06):
Oh boy, there's there's things I can't say over the
radio that were kind of strange, but I did. I
was offered drugs one time, very late at night. I'll
say that, what'd you say?

Speaker 1 (01:21:19):
Did you say yes? Or no?

Speaker 8 (01:21:20):
I'm just kidding.

Speaker 1 (01:21:21):
No, have you ever hear any of you ever hear
any soft music? And then Nina Hartley suddenly showed up.

Speaker 6 (01:21:26):
No, no, no stories to that effect. But yeah, there
was there's it's uh, you know, it was an interesting job.

Speaker 1 (01:21:34):
I mean, I would imagine the fair share of Jeff's
Baccoli's ordering pizza for you, right, just you know, eating
learning about Cuba and eating some food. Right.

Speaker 6 (01:21:41):
Well, you a lot of those late calls. You would
go to the house. Then this is before even map
quest or Internet, but you go to the house and
they would be passed out, you know, they wouldn't even
so then you then you'd get a Then you'd bring
home the pizza and our manager and say, I just
take it, take it home, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:21:57):
Ari Liondyke won the nineteen ninety car number thirty sponsored
by Domino's Pizzas. Back then their ad campaign was thirty
minutes or less er It's free. Yeah yep, so and
then they actually had some legal things with that and
so therefore, but listen, nothing wrong with that. But now,
of course it would be Chicago's Pizza would be the preference.
But okay, so give me the team or the school

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that just needs to get things turned around.

Speaker 6 (01:22:21):
Well, the game I was thinking of, and it's not
necessarily get turned around, but I would say the game
that probably falls into that category would be Avon and
Westfield because you know, Avon is now, you know, they've
lost three out of four. I think they're I think
they're a really good team. Westfield is a team that
obviously they've been really good for years these past few years,

(01:22:43):
Avon hasn't been able to knock them off here recently.
But I think this is going to be a great matchup,
and you don't want to go into you know, the
end of the season here losing too many, you know,
in a row or a chunk of games. So that's
I think a game to watch that, you know, see
if Avon can be Westfield at home tonight. Westfield played
really well last week against Brownsburg, so you know, I'd

(01:23:05):
say that that game probably falls into that category.

Speaker 1 (01:23:08):
You know.

Speaker 6 (01:23:09):
Also of interest, I think too, is just the Center
Grove Cathedral game. You know, Center Grove is a six
to oh team, but you know haven't played maybe you know,
they've played some teams that are not having great seasons,
I would say, and then you know, they played out
of state team, so we haven't really got a gauge
on that. That's kind of a gauge game, I would say,
because the next two weeks they played Cathedral and Lawrence

(01:23:30):
North back to back weeks, and you know, seems like
this time of yearly Center Grove is playing its best
football going into the tournament. And you know, I think
that's really one of note to uh that'll give us
maybe a good representation on where Center Grove's at right
now as a program.

Speaker 1 (01:23:45):
Yeah, he can coach man. I mean, that's just that's
one of those programs that you if they're not strong
by the end of the year. You know, some coaches, Kyle,
would you agree, just have this ability that their team
Cathedrals in this category as well, because you look at
their schedule a lot of times and you feel like
they're having a down year and then you realize they're
just loading it up where they get incrementally better each

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and every week and by the end of the year
then it all comes together for them.

Speaker 9 (01:24:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:24:11):
I mean, I think the good coaches or you know,
the great coaches, you know, by the end of the season,
they're kind of molded into the style that you know,
you expect out of those programs, and you know it's
it's based on personnel and adjusting to what you have
as a team. But I always, you know, I always
sense that with Center Grove as they and Cathened Early
you mentioned them too, but you know they kind of

(01:24:32):
play to their to the way that the you know,
the coaches like to play, and I think, you know,
Center Grove has changed with that. So I'm over the
years where they think good coaches like Eric Moore do
is you know, they're more of a passing team than
they used to be. But you know, their best teams
they always they're always able to run the ball, they
always have, you know, really good defenses, and you know,
I think we'll find out these next couple of weeks

(01:24:54):
just maybe where they are exactly. But you know, they're
always like when I see them early in the year,
I always kind of think, well, that's I'll be part
of the team we're going to see later. But but
they're going to be dramatically better, and injuries will play.
You know, they've they've had a couple tough injuries too,
so that always plays a factor. But uh, but yeah,
they're they're I always think when they're in October November,
they're they're a different team than they were in August.

Speaker 1 (01:25:17):
By the way, Tenley and Crystal House that matchup tonight,
because we always try to focus on what the kids
are doing at some of the schools that you don't
hear as much about. Best to look to both those
schools as well, Addicts and short Ridge tonight, two schools
that attics short Ridge. I mean, that's I guess you
would say. Obviously from a traditional standpoint, Kyle, we're talking
an old school rivalry game there, right.

Speaker 6 (01:25:39):
Yeah, Man, you think about the basketball games, you'll go
back in the history of the I love you know,
I've talked to some of those players from the era
of the fifties and the sixties also football were rivals.
But you know, man, there weren't any bigger games. You know,
it's fun to go back on the the archives sometimes
and like you know, Addicts and short Ridge, we're playing
these games in front of you fourteen thousand people at

(01:26:01):
the hinkle Fieldhouse back in the day. So you know,
how cool to relive some of that stuff and talk
to some of those players over the years.

Speaker 1 (01:26:08):
But by the way, lastly, so if you'd show up
with the pizza and the guy had passed out, did
you I mean, did you try to wake them up?
Did you just you rang the doorbell three times and
then weren't there and you just made your own conclusion?
Did they maybe leave? I mean, did you administer CPR?
I mean, how did this work?

Speaker 8 (01:26:26):
You would call?

Speaker 6 (01:26:27):
They used to have a number, you know, they put
the home phone number on the on the side of
the box or whatever. Or you'd get in and so
you'd have to call. Uh, you'd have the the uh.
Uh you go back to the store, you know, do
you take it back and call them? Because back then
we didn't have cell phones. So uh, but you'd go
back to the store and call them back. And if
they didn't answer, but yeah, just ring the doorbell, you know,

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several times.

Speaker 1 (01:26:50):
And did you ever get this, because I'm not saying
that I ever did this, but my understanding as kids
used to did you ever get it? Where clearly what
it was was it was like a prank of somebody's
sending a pizza to someone's house that that didn't actually
order it.

Speaker 6 (01:27:04):
I had that a couple of times. Yeah, you know,
and yeah, that was that was something that happened occasionally.

Speaker 3 (01:27:10):
Yeah, it was.

Speaker 6 (01:27:11):
It was once you got past midnight, there was about
anything could happen. You never knew what was about to happen.

Speaker 1 (01:27:16):
Yeah, it's like Uncle Jake's taxi Eddie that I run
on New Year's Eve, Right, no puking in the jeep. Right,
although the jeep puked on itself and they're putting a
new engine in it, and I got another week before
I get it back. That's a whole different talk show, Kyle,
all Right, we didn't know that we were going to
go down all of those different segues. But I appreciate
you going along for the Vagabond journey.

Speaker 6 (01:27:33):
Nonetheless, absolutely I enjoyed it.

Speaker 1 (01:27:35):
Kyle nett Rip joining us Indy Star appreciated Kyle, will
look forward to the story on again Warren and Lawrence
North and featuring a junior that is a top ten
player now in the country. Will take a quick recess.
Kevin Bowen, you heard us mention a cathedral. He a
proud member of that school. He's going to join us
coming up about fifteen minutes from now. So, Eddie, you

(01:27:57):
are familiar with the wide receiver from Lawrence North right
o mon Shun Sales.

Speaker 6 (01:28:01):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (01:28:01):
I watched him in a game last year as a sophomore,
and I think he had like three catches one hundred
and you know, seventy yards and three touchdowns. It was
just like watching Randy Moss, like taller than everyone on
the field, faster and everyone on the field. That quarterback
would just drop back on those three passes and we're like,
all right, you want to go route everyone else. Receiver wise,
you're on the right side, he's on his own on
the left side, he's gonna run to go right. I'm

(01:28:23):
gonna toss up to him. He's going to jump up,
catch it and then go into the chores.

Speaker 7 (01:28:26):
Hell.

Speaker 2 (01:28:26):
He did three dimes.

Speaker 1 (01:28:27):
It reminds me of when I was working at Channel six.
Joe Roticap, whose son Nick right now Joe Rodicap and
Gray Strahan married and their son, Nicholas Rodaicap is down
at IU is going to be a really good sportscaster.
But Joe Roadecap was also a videographer. And one day
I was working and we would send as a sports

(01:28:51):
staff or as a station, we would send photographers to
like Ball State, Indiana State, you know, to Paul whatever,
just to get a couple of highlights. And I remember
road Acap had a Ball State game and I'm like,
what I'm putting together the six o'clock newscast on a Saturday,
a sportscast, and I'm like, where is Roadicap, Like, I've
got to I gotta cut these highlights. I mean that
the game was at noon, and he's still not back yet.

(01:29:12):
It's you know, four o'clock whatever. Usually you go up
there and get a couple lights and you come back
and road Acap comes back and sets these two tapes
on my desk and he goes, look, man, this dude
from Marshall had like six touchdowns. I wasn't gonna leave
the game because it was the most unbelievable performance I've
ever seen, and I don't remember it was Randy Moss.
And if you look up Randy Moss's stats against Ball

(01:29:34):
State in Muncie, I mean it was in I We
knew of Randy Moss because he had been obviously at
Florida State and Notre Dame, and there was a lot
of controversy about him. But I mean, it took two
seconds when you put the tape in, You're like, oh
my gosh. The natural athleticism, all of it, right, runs

(01:29:55):
like a deer, I mean, and you were saying, that's
I realize it's ridiculous to compare anybody to arguably the
greatest wide receiver of all time, but just in terms
of natural abilities and body type similar, right.

Speaker 2 (01:30:12):
It's literally that's what he reminded me of, just because
he was bigger than everybody, faster than everybody. It's just unfair.

Speaker 1 (01:30:20):
Sometimes life is just unfair. All right, we come back,
Kevin Bow. We're gonna join us here him of course
on the Morning Show with James Boyd as well as
Jeff Rickard the Fan Morning Show, and a lot to
get to with the Colts because we now know some
of the players that are out and what impact will
that mean and who are they? We'll discuss that with
Kevin next two o'clock on a Friday in Indianapolis. For

(01:30:45):
that matter, it's two o'clock on a Friday everywhere in
the Eastern time zone. My name is Jake Query. Eddie
Garrison the other voice you hear on this program today.
The name of the show is Querry and Company, of course,
and last night, Eddie, I don't know if we have
somebody in the IT field, but I made a high
lab night IT member of the company. Oh, Eddie is
the president of the company. I forget what my exact

(01:31:05):
title is.

Speaker 2 (01:31:06):
On the chairman of the board.

Speaker 1 (01:31:08):
And that board does include Kevin Bowen, who is a
board member and a recurring guest on the program. Joins
us now. He brings the professionalism to the company. Kevin,
you here in the morning with James Boyd and jeff
Rickord and the Fan Morning Show, and he is essentially
the primary colts beat writer for the station. All of
his work you can see at one oh seven five

(01:31:29):
the fan dot com. Kevin, Let's begin with this, and
that is we found out just about a little over
an hour ago some of those that are out for
this game against the Raiders and nothing, I guess overly shocking,
but at the same time going to be a challenge.
Let us know who is not going to be suiting
up for Indianapolis.

Speaker 7 (01:31:49):
Yeah, I would say the one shocking night on miss
Alex Pierce, you know as we sat here, Yeah, I
guess that was even this morning. And you know, Pierce
had two full days of work. So anytime you're in
concussion protocol, you have two full days of work, that's
usually pretty good for you.

Speaker 1 (01:32:04):
Wasn't feeling good this morning.

Speaker 7 (01:32:06):
Though, and so he is out set back in the
concussion protocol did not pass. So that's not good obviously
for Sunday. It's also not good for you know, Pierce
sur pribably state in the obvious that you know, we're
talking about a guy that unfortunately has had I think
it's now three concussions. Is the first one reason this
multiple weeks. So he is out. No Kennymore, No Tyler Goodson,

(01:32:29):
no Daniel Scott, those are the four so backup running, back,
backup safety and then again Pierson Moore both out for
a second straight weeks.

Speaker 1 (01:32:39):
The more situation, I mean, obviously we knew going in
Kevin that was going to be unlikely. You know, Kenny
Moore would play. But when you look at you know,
xavieron Howard and that situation and what happens with them
at defensive backfield. Let's begin there, because we talked about
it in the middle of the week that you were
maybe going to have some moving around or just have

(01:33:02):
to go into your depth in terms of what you
were going to do. What is the lineup going to
look like for the Colts in terms of their defensive
backfield against Geno Smith, who has thrown you know, I
think six interceptions already this year, but against that Raiders offense.

Speaker 7 (01:33:17):
Yeah, so I'd assume they'll call Mike Hilton up from
the practice squaud for second straight week, so he'll be
in the Kenny Moore role. The question will be than
what do they do opposite Mooney Ward. I would assume
that it's Makai Blackman, who was the one that did
fall down on the Tu Tuo at Well interception. They
could go with Johnson Edwards undrafted free agent, So you know,

(01:33:38):
that's a little bit of a decision that they're going
to have to make. But obviously, you know Xavi and Howard,
I think his role would have been scaled back anyways.
Had he not retired midweek. But now with that, I'd
assume black men and then you know, kind of wait
and see. I think Jalen Jones is the best option

(01:33:58):
on the roster, but he unfortunately is dealt with the
hamstring issue now a couple different times this year, and
he's probably not going to be back. He's stilling in
your reserve. He can't play this week, I don't know
the year, probably can out a couple of weeks before
his return. So yeah, my best guess is Sunday would
be kind of the three man corner group Mooney Ward,

(01:34:19):
Mike Kilden for sure, and then a little bit of
a debate there and what you do the third corner.

Speaker 6 (01:34:24):
But I'd say, makaile blackman.

Speaker 1 (01:34:25):
You know, I thought, and you correct me if you are,
you know, tell me if you disagree. I thought Hilton
for a guy that was a late edition and you know,
obviously as somebody that knows lou Anarumo and that defense
coming from Cincinnati, But you know, did he jump off
the page at meet? No, But considering what was asked

(01:34:45):
in Los Angeles, I thought he was sufficient. I thought
he was fine, to be honest with you. Now, does
that mean he can do an elevated role or more reps.
I don't know. But overall, how would you analyze what
we've seen so far? Yeah, that's probably a.

Speaker 7 (01:34:59):
Good way to describe it. I mean, he obviously had
the huge play on the blitz the force fumble there.

Speaker 1 (01:35:04):
I know, I thought, Kevin, I'll be honest, and I
know that he got in there and but it almost
looked to me like the and yes, Hilton had to
be there for this to happen, But as I watched
it a second time, I thought, did he actually make
contact or was the back spinning and it was the
inertia of his spin that caused him to lose the ball.
Either way, though, Yeah, he was there, right, I mean,

(01:35:25):
he was.

Speaker 7 (01:35:25):
There right right. Uh you know, you know as far
as him in coverage, I don't think we saw it
like a ton of reps. So you know, a little
bit wait and see. Now it's different with him and
Xavier Howard. He actually played football last year, so you know,
maybe I don't have as much of a wait, like
what's what's in the tank.

Speaker 6 (01:35:38):
For this dude?

Speaker 7 (01:35:39):
And you know, for me, the biggest issue with Howard
wasn't that you gave him the tryst that the minute
he walked in the door, he handed him the keys
to the starting lineup.

Speaker 1 (01:35:46):
It's like, don't you.

Speaker 7 (01:35:47):
Want to see where this dude at. I mean, he
didn't play football last year. So yeah, I again, I
think Hilton was fine. But you know, Kenny Moore the
second and now that you're saying this, Jake, but I
just think people appreciate him still. And you know, I
think I told you guys last week entering last week's game,
in the games at Kenny's missed in the last few years,

(01:36:08):
Colt have been given up thirty three points per game
with him out of the line. I've been not last
he goes twenty seven. But I just think even when
he's not making plays like picking off cam Ward and
taking it back for a touchdown, I think there's so
many plays where he's just in the right spot and
you just kind of take that for granted over the
course of sixty minutes.

Speaker 1 (01:36:25):
You know, Kevin Bowen is our guest, Kevin the defensively
speaking against the Raiders, one of the things that is
obviously going to be and I think there's a blueprint here.
Brock Bauers is an important and the Raiders are starting
to run the football more, I mean Genty's you know,
they're starting to find ways to kind of get him going.

(01:36:45):
But so much of the Raiders offense I think is
centered around brock Bauers, even if they're not getting him
the ball rather just using him as a decoy. Is
is good enough in terms of what he can bring
to the table, but he also is dinged up, right?
How much does that change? Do you think what Ana
Rumo tries to schematically come up with for the Raiders?

Speaker 7 (01:37:09):
Yeah, I think a good point. And honestly, I don't
know if it'll happen during your show, but certainly during
John's show he might have some news on the Raiders
injury report. So Bowers, like you said, has deal with
the knee injury really all year long. He was limited Wednesday,
didn't practice yesterday, So you know, is that midweek maintenance
for a guy that's clearly dealing with something? Is it

(01:37:30):
more than that that would be something to keep an
eye on and Ma's crosby their stud defensive end.

Speaker 1 (01:37:35):
It didn't practice either.

Speaker 7 (01:37:37):
And you know, he's probably own the right to have
his veteran rest day, but that's not something he does
it's the first time he's actually an age report all year.
So you know, we'd obviously have some news items here
from a you know, injury standpoint on a Friday, but
you know they definitely have a couple out there. So yeah,
I mean Bowers is huge, especially with you know, Geno
Smith needs to get going and you would think, you know,

(01:37:59):
some simple rose to an elite tight end would help
you kind of get back into that rhythm there. So
that's a huge storyline here as we sit here on
this Friday.

Speaker 1 (01:38:07):
You know, Geno Smith is and I like Geno Smith,
and he's had moments where you know, he has certainly
been to use the Mike Hilton word that I used,
a sufficient quarterback. I don't know that Geno Smith anybody
looks at him and goes, this guy is you know,
but he's been a good player, and now that he
is with the Raiders, there was part of me, Kevin

(01:38:28):
that thought to myself, well, you know, you're kind of
starting from scratch there, and then I'll be honest with you,
you forget it was Pete Carroll that was the one
that kind of reawakened him anyway to begin with, right,
So one would assume that the pieces are in place
there for this to kind of get going, and maybe
they simply need the running game to get that going
for him. I know that we're not weekly covering the Raiders,

(01:38:50):
but for this week it is of note. But Genty
is a guy that in the beginning of the year
we didn't see a lot from and now all of
a sudden it's kind of uncorked. How big a ballot
n challenge do you think it's going to be for
the Colts defense?

Speaker 7 (01:39:04):
Yeah, I think it's a good point. And I've kind
of forgotten this, Jake. I didn't realize Shane Stiken actually
had a year with Geno Smith, you know, the old
NFL cycle. I guess everybody's with everybody at some point.
But Shane spoke super highly of him earlier this week,
so you know, as far as the Raiders are concerned, Yeah,
Gens finally got going last week. I think they've kind

(01:39:25):
of been waiting for him to, you know, really really
get going. Ripped off a big one, and you know,
if you look at this game on Sunday, for me,
so much of it is about getting the lead early,
which I know is captain obvious, but think about their personnel.
You know, when you think about Gen t it's he's
done a great jalbum breaking tapped so far in his

(01:39:46):
NFL career, and they're they are without their best offensive lineman,
Colton Miller at left tackle. So if you can get
a lead early, that limits how much tackling you got
to do on gens in the third and fourth quarter,
where we've obviously seen right here Jonn Taylor rip off
huge runs and then of course if you're in more
obvious passing situations, that's a backup left tackle having to

(01:40:07):
hold up. And last he lost it was really good
last week. So you know, for me, you know this
is the Gus Bradley era. I think we'd be a
little nervous. So, boy, is you going to get into
a rhythm here with some simple completions early in games?
And then are they going to kind of stay in
it on the scoreboard. But if you can jump on
them early, then I think you start to question that
Gino's lack of confidence all of that, because Pete Carroll's

(01:40:27):
already feeling in questions about, hey, are you looking at
Kenny Pickett, which you know might sound crazy to some people,
but that's how much Gino has struggled this season, Eddie.

Speaker 1 (01:40:36):
You know what we say about Kenny Pickett right Wait,
he's got his little hands out there. Yes, that's Kenny Pigott. Kevin,
I think I was doing the morning show with you
when he was going through the draft cycle. And I
don't know why it is. Maybe it's just some weird
seventh grade guy mentality of mine, but I would not
want the entire world to know that I have tiny hands.

Speaker 7 (01:40:56):
Yeah, I'm shocked to fifty three year old is still
using that bit.

Speaker 1 (01:41:01):
What it was. I mean, it was fifty year old
you were dealing with. I mean, did you really think
things were going to change in three years?

Speaker 7 (01:41:08):
I don't know. I thought after that big birthday party,
you know, somehow, some way he was showing out some maturity.
But good to see you, Heavan.

Speaker 1 (01:41:15):
Thank you. By the way, Chargers is where Shane stiken
had Gino Smith right when he was his second stint
with the Chargers. Shane Stikeen was a quarterbacks coach when
Gino Smith was there for a cup of coffee. In
case anybody was curious on that, Kevin Bow and our guest, Kevin,
curious of this from your standpoint, give me the area

(01:41:35):
of the Colts so far that you still aren't sold,
either in a good or bad way. In other words,
maybe an area where they've struggled, where you're saying, yeah,
but that's kind of concern to me that that simply
was matchup stuff, or an area where they've looked really
good where you're still not fully ready to make the
down payment.

Speaker 7 (01:41:56):
You know, the pass rush last week I thought was
really good. And that's against the guy I guess.

Speaker 3 (01:42:01):
Of a lot quick.

Speaker 7 (01:42:02):
I know Stafford doesn't move a whole lot, but you know,
is that sustainable?

Speaker 1 (01:42:06):
Again?

Speaker 7 (01:42:06):
Last two was really good last week? You know, is
that going to be the case continually moving forward? I
think I'd probably go there. You know, Daniel Jones has
been outstanding. I mean, hell, you know, if you could
imagine the first four weeks of the season looking like
this and told me that in August, I always said
no chance. You know, as more film I guess is

(01:42:27):
on Daniel Jones in a Colts uniform. Is that still
the case?

Speaker 1 (01:42:32):
You know?

Speaker 7 (01:42:32):
And just in general, I think, and I'd say this
for any NFL year. You know, it's just like, all right,
there's the same team. It's the same team there. When
Halloween rules around, it's the same team there. And Thanksgiving
rules around, there's the same team there at the New Year,
you know, I mean NFL seasons are long. Well, I mean,
you know, if you would have said, hey, the Colts
are going to win the super Bowl in two thousand

(01:42:53):
and six the Monday after the Jacksonville game, you know,
people would have called you an idiot based off where
that run defense was, and then all this Rob Morris this,
and you know, Bob Sanders that, and they're shutting down
Larry Johnson and the rest is history on that playoff run.
So I just think the grind of the season, you know,
things kind of naturally arise, and but yeah, those would

(01:43:13):
be a couple of items. And then you know, maybe
corner depths. You know, again, just because Xamer Howard's gone
doesn't mean that that cures all. It just means you're
trying different people in that spot there. So that would
be another, you.

Speaker 1 (01:43:25):
Know, one of the things. Kevin, let me bring something
up that I found interesting. I think it was earlier
this week. Maybe it was last year, but I think
it was earlier this week. I know it was a
week go today. Sorry, I had on Jeff George, and
the reason I did is because Jeff George is a
guy that, you know, never really got his footing in
stop number one. It was here for the Colts, and
then when he went to Atlanta, you know, instantly, seemingly,

(01:43:49):
you know, he's strown for four thousand yards and everything
just kind of came together. So I wanted to know
what the difference was from stop one to stop two.
And one of the things that he pointed out was, look,
it was really hard as a young quarterback to go
into a situation on a veteran team knowing that guys
are looking at me and I'm supposed to be a leader.

(01:44:09):
But yet, how am I supposed to tell a thirty
one year old guy, as a twenty one year old
kid that this is what I want him to do
and this is how I'm going to lead that guy.
And it seems to me like Daniel Jones is one
coming here that just the experience and what he went
through in New York, he doesn't strike me as an
overly vociferous guy to his teammates, but just by the

(01:44:32):
example of coming in and having to earn it that
over the course of time, that has developed a trust
amongst his teammates, and now there is a respect there
that allows him to naturally be a leader. You're closer
inside the locker room than I. Is that a fair observation.

Speaker 7 (01:44:49):
Yeah, yes, I think you're onto something, and I think
there's a level of respect and just watching how he
works from guys within the locker room. And then I
don't know, if you guys played the clips we played
on our show, I might be caught the Saquon Barkley
audio from a couple of weeks back, just like how
happy he's been watching Daniel Jones. I mean, imagine that,
like you don't know Daniel Jones at all, and all

(01:45:10):
of a sudden you see Saquon Barkley, one of the
best players in the NFL, start gushing about him, Like
to me, that would be like damn. I mean, things
went really bad in New York and this guy, I mean,
he's like he's talking about him like he's his son.
So you know, I think you don't hear you know
New York, he wasn't the problem, I guess.

Speaker 1 (01:45:30):
Is the easiest way to be Well, we're starting to
find that out more right, you know what I mean?

Speaker 7 (01:45:33):
Sure with the Giants, but like again, hearing those comments
is not just you know, kind of throw away line
take on Barkley, He's like, no, let me go out
of my way and gush about this dude for whatever
two minutes. So I think all of that probably is
at play here too.

Speaker 1 (01:45:49):
And then along those lines, Eddie and I were talking
about this earlier, and that's the story and kind of
the saga of Ady Mitchell and I've gone back in
fourth on this. Kevin. Eddie asked me this question, if
you were Shane Steikin or you were Chris Ballard, how
do you handle the ad Mitchell situation? So with that question,

(01:46:11):
I'll put that to you. How would you handle it
if you're Shane Steikin.

Speaker 7 (01:46:16):
Well, I think the Alex Pearson injury changed everything. You know,
I'm under the impression that it was heading towards an
active week for him and then all of a sudden
with Pierce. You can't really do that just given the
availability of your white out. So I expect Mitchell to

(01:46:38):
dress now. I'm not sitting here acting like he's going
to play a lot, you know. I think the old
T word who do you trust? And I think for
a week. There's gonna be a little bit of a
punishment for that. Again, maybe not to the extreme that
they could have given Pierce the situation, but I would
think Ashton Dolan will honestly take on more of that

(01:46:59):
rule and then Mitchell. So that's how you know when
you hear Shane Stiken talk about Adie Mitchell this week,
even today in the press conference, you'll ask them, given
the Pierce situation, like worry out with Adi Mitchell, We're
working through that like still, I mean and again and
Shane Sike and Lingo that I think is, you know,

(01:47:21):
pretty evident that he clearly is super displeased with what
happened on Sunday and felt like some accountability needed to
be there. So again, I think the plan has probably
changed a little bit just given Pierce the situation and
the other injuries. I should add they're not in a
spot right now. You know, they ruled out four guys today.

(01:47:41):
That's easily the biggest number they've ruled out all season long.
They need Mike Hilton to be called up from the
practice squad to replace Kenny Moore, and then with though
Tyler Goodson, they need to add another running back. I
would assume that's a mere Abdullah the former. I think
he's a second round pick back in the day. So
right there, those are your two practice squad call ups

(01:48:02):
for this week. So you can't really unless I'm missing something.
I mean, they can make a office spot, but I
don't see them adding a white out, I guess is
what I'm getting at here. So again, I think plans
have changed for how they wanted to maybe punish ad Mitchell.

Speaker 1 (01:48:18):
By the way, and I could be wrong here, but
on the when you're oh, you know what, maybe I
completely missed this. Is he on the active or did
I miss the the transaction of it? Because I think
he played earlier this year. If I'm not mistaken, your
lissen is Bentley the fourth he is? Is he no
longer on the practice squad?

Speaker 8 (01:48:37):
He is?

Speaker 7 (01:48:38):
Yeah, I mean they could go there, and yeah, you
are correct, he did play week one of it right
when Goodson was originally out. So yes, they could go
with Bentley, they could go with Abdullah, but I think
they're going with Abulah, probably because they heard your impression
too much and they didn't hear it again.

Speaker 2 (01:48:54):
Par for the course with me, Kevin, why do you
feel like a punishment is necessarily for Ady Mitchell because
I said, as I said here I think about it,
was like, look, he's already owned up to it, he's
apologized in front of the team. I understand there has
to be some level of accountability, but at the same time,
you want to see Harry responds because this is easily
the most adversity he's faced as a pro. I'm in
the camp of I want to see him still out
there in the same early was last week to see

(01:49:15):
if he can respond and if not in the early goings,
then you make that move to bencham and then you
go to Ashton doing Yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:49:22):
I just don't think he's earned that. Frankly, I think
Jonathan Taylor and ad Mitchell are two very different examples.
And I can't stress enough that I think Shane Steiken
emphasize this to the nth degree.

Speaker 6 (01:49:35):
And when you have a guy make that.

Speaker 7 (01:49:37):
Mistake almost immediately after you've emphasized that as a coaching staff,
then you got to do something I think a little
bit further than what you were doing. So again I
checked him to dress. But I think the Alex Peir
situation has just changed it. And even last week in
the game. You know, he makes that play and whatever

(01:49:58):
that was early third quarter, the next time he shows
up in the box scores the holding penalty. It's not
like he showed up and made a play on the
next series or he like the next time he made
an impact on the game. He made an awful impact
on the game. And I think that really really bothered
the coaching staffs as well. So again, I think the

(01:50:19):
plan was for probably in a one week situation, but
you know, Pierce having this setback this morning has probably
all changed it from hey, maybe we could have them
an active to all right, now we need to dress them.
But still I think it's going to be a little
bit more ash doing in that role.

Speaker 1 (01:50:38):
You know, I said this earlier, Kevin, give me your
thoughts on this. If I'm Shane Steike and my answer
on it is this, and you critique this or tell
me just your feel on it. With the Aighty Mitchell situation,
if I'm Shane Stike and I look at it and
I go, look, this guy had red flags coming out.
We knew that we've been waiting for him to get going.

(01:51:00):
He made he did make a great play, even though
I think even he was stunned that ball was in
his arms. But he made two mistakes, very very costly mistakes.
And if I'm a coach, it would peeve me. But
if I'm a coach, this is also a test of
what I've been preaching, and that is that we create culture.

(01:51:20):
Every franchise says this, Every team says this, We create
a culture here. We have good guys in that locker room,
we have leaders. At some point, you've got to test
your leaders, and you've got to say, I'm gonna let
the den, I'm gonna let the pack here take care
of the errant kitten. I'm gonna let them do it.
And that's as a as a coach, I have to

(01:51:41):
trust that I've created the right atmosphere where these things
can internally take care of themselves on my off base there.
And do they have that yet?

Speaker 7 (01:51:54):
Yeah, it's a good point. I guess I don't know
to the last part. You know, I'm always torn on like, okay,
you know, culture, leadership, accountability, you know, all these buzzwords
we hear, and then like how do you define that?
You know, christ Out has made a huge emphasis of
you know, I want a lot of individually like high
character guys. I think for the most part, however, you

(01:52:16):
define character, whether it's work ethic, whether it's you know,
good in the community, Like yeah, I think the Colts
probably have a lot of that. But it's like, okay,
then you know if they have all these guys that
are self motivated, and then you know why late in
the season, when these bigger games arise in the schedule,
do they not deliver to that to that degree? You know,

(01:52:36):
when you think about the word accountability, something I asked
Shane on Wednesday was just this, Okay, when does accountability
stop at words and when do you feel the need
for it to go to action. The words would be
Ady Mitchell talking in front of the team on Monday.
The action would be Anthony Richardson getting benched. And I
think that's difficult. Like to Eddie's point, I get that,

(01:52:56):
Like you know, as a coach, the send a message
and say hey, we're coming right back to you, Like
you know, last time in the Rams game they went
right back to kyn Williams after the fumble. But again,
Karen Williams has probably earned the right for that. Jonathan
Taylor has earned the right. Like to me, it's not
apples to apples ad Mitchell, what has he done in
the NFL for him to all of a sudden go

(01:53:18):
right back out there. Last year he wasn't trustworthy either
in college to a point, Jake, he had some great
highs and then a lot of inconsistency. So I think
defining accountability and how far you take it as a
coach would be a really difficult thing. And this week,
could say even more difficult because all of a sudden,
you popped up on the final practice day of the

(01:53:38):
week and a receiver you thought was going to play
in the game is no longer playing in that game
and Alex Pearce. So yeah, I don't think there was
an easy answer.

Speaker 1 (01:53:47):
When does Max Bowen make his pick? Usually he has
done that by the time you come on with us,
I know, And this.

Speaker 7 (01:53:54):
Week I've been uh yeah, I mean, I guess I've
been lazy.

Speaker 6 (01:53:57):
I don't know why.

Speaker 7 (01:53:58):
All of a sudden, I just got a I just
looked at my Raider's helmet and thought, oh my, we
still need to do a pick. So beautiful looking helmet.

Speaker 1 (01:54:04):
I was going to say, you can't blame him if
he goes with the Raiders helmet, can you?

Speaker 3 (01:54:08):
No?

Speaker 7 (01:54:08):
And I was surprised he went rams last week.

Speaker 8 (01:54:10):
He's won three.

Speaker 3 (01:54:11):
In a row, so he's hot.

Speaker 7 (01:54:13):
And we'll see if he can stretch the five here.
But that rate, you know, the silver and the black
and and the look of it. I don't know if
that's intimidating. I don't know if he's going to think
it's a little HALLOWEENI and maybe that would, you know,
stray him. So the cold tummet's all. I'll be very
curious to see what he does here.

Speaker 1 (01:54:28):
If you had to pick a color design, like if
you were the owner of an expansion franchise, I've asked
this question to people a lot, But what would your
color scheme be? Kevin?

Speaker 3 (01:54:39):
Oh?

Speaker 9 (01:54:39):
Boy?

Speaker 7 (01:54:40):
Am I an NFL team?

Speaker 1 (01:54:43):
Boy? That's a good question. Yeah, we'll go NFL. And
you're allowed three you know, obviously three colors, like one
accentuating color and then two primary colors.

Speaker 7 (01:54:52):
Well, my my color palette is. I mean, you know,
if you asked me, hey, what makes an orange? What
made you know you know what's primary? I mean, I
I got a better chance of knowing Mandarin.

Speaker 1 (01:55:01):
Well no, no, I'm saying I'm saying I don't mean primary,
meaning like you know Roydi. I mean like you have
to have two main colors of Team Bowen and then
you're allowed to have a third one that just you know,
like just the complimentary color.

Speaker 7 (01:55:13):
Okay, I love I'm gonna give you. I want the
Chargers powder blue. I'm gonna steal from other people. I
want the Chargers powder blue. I want Tampa Bay's cream sickle,
and I want whatever the old Jets green.

Speaker 3 (01:55:29):
Used to be.

Speaker 7 (01:55:31):
Wow. Three colors that I'm gonna pick.

Speaker 1 (01:55:34):
That you your team will actually look like someone puked
on them. But that's cool though, I mean you know
what I mean.

Speaker 7 (01:55:41):
Yeah, yeah, you never know we're gonna be Oregon from
ten years ago. You never know what we're gonna wear.

Speaker 1 (01:55:45):
That's right, fair enough.

Speaker 7 (01:55:47):
I believe this week I think Seahawks Bucks is like
one of the best games of the week. I think
they're both going through.

Speaker 1 (01:55:54):
That is I'm telling you right now. I don't even
know if I can say this on the air, but
that to me, if the Seahawks are going with their
late seventies early eighties uniforms with the silver helmets and
the Bucks are going with the cream sickles, that is
to me visual football orgy that's what that is, your

(01:56:15):
sports arousal. Yes, yes, I'm glad.

Speaker 7 (01:56:18):
I'm glad John's at Binkley's today because that seed is
not one I want to sit in for a few hours.

Speaker 1 (01:56:24):
That's right, all right, Kevin, enjoy the weekend, and we'll
be listening at seven o'clock on Monday for a recap
of it all boys, see right, Kevin Bowen joining us
on the program. It is a Friday by the way,
bottom of the hour, and I'm sure they're thrilled at
this point based off that that we are at this point,
but it is a Franciscan feel good, good for the
hard Friday. And I've got three stories. Actually two of

(01:56:46):
them are kind of personal, but one of them the
story of a great young man that's been working hard
to get back out into the swing of things, so
to speak. And there were a lot of obstacles that
came his way, but thanks to the help of not
only somebody within his school but his own perseverance, he's back.
Will explain next A Friday at the bottom of the Hour.

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And I love the partnership with Franciscan Health and being
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so much negativity out there right, even in sport, seems
like you're always hearing about stories of people not getting
along or fines or whatever it might be. So when
we can feature stories, in a particular, stories of young

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towards getting a healthier Indiana. And when it comes to
Oregon donation, we've talked about it on this show on

(01:59:43):
a number of occasions. I want to tell you about
Jackson Grundy, who is a student at North Montgomery High School.
And Jackson probably not unlike many of us new kids
like this when we were younger, you get into like
say fourth or fifth grade, and you start playing sports
and you just realized that, gosh, you know, I grew
up watching these other athletes that were big and strong

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and fast, and you're waiting for your body to catch up,
so to speak. And in the case of Jackson, he
was a smaller kid, and so his dreams of playing
some of the different sports maybe weren't coming into reality.
He began playing tennis, but his size in general, his
parents just wondered what might be the issue, and so

(02:00:25):
they took him to the doctor and at the age
of eleven, they found out actually that he was diagnosed
with a malfunction within his kidneys, and that was something that,
like most you at that age in particular, you start
going and seeing the doctor regularly. And for the case
of Jackson, probably going and seeing a doctor on the

(02:00:46):
regular basis became the new norm and something that he
simply fought through. But at the same time, it didn't
stop him from pursuing the things that he wanted to pursue,
and one of those was a career playing tennis, for
example at North Montgomery, and even that eventually had to
take a break. That's because as things got worse, and

(02:01:07):
by the time he was sixteen, when he began going
on daily dialysis for his kidneys and the way that
they weren't simply weren't functioning, his family realized that the
time was there where he did, in fact need an
Oregon transplant, and they needed a kidney donation. And of
course with the kidneys, you can live with one kidney.

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So if you are somebody who has two healthy kidneys
and someone would be a match for you, you can
donate that kidney. Oscar Robertson is one that did that
for his daughter. That was fairly well noted, and in
the case of Jackson, you know, the word was put
out that he needed a kidney transplant in order to
be able to live the life of normalcy and at

(02:01:51):
the length that we would hope for any young person.
And sure that the tennis career went on hold at
that point, but bigger things came into play. And what
it's interesting is as the word went out, what happened
was it was actually one of his teachers within North
Montgomery High School that was the match. And Jackson actually

(02:02:12):
didn't even know it when he went in and found
out that that match was there. But it was an
English teacher, Daniel Rogers from North Montgomery that was a
match who said, yes, I will go ahead and make
that donation. And Jackson was able to not only go
on and begin his new life within a healthier step

(02:02:33):
along the way, but to be able to do so
in the case of this situation, the kindness, the compassion,
the dedication from so many people that are in education
from a teacher right there within his school. And he
also now is returning back to the tennis court and

(02:02:54):
it will be obviously for Jackson a road ahead that
is won when you have Oregon donation. And I know
this because in working with the Indiana Donor Network and
sharing the story about Brian Clausen, you know, I met
a gentleman named Danny who had a transplant and he
has to routinely go in to make sure that his
body is continuing to accept the organ. That's one of

(02:03:16):
the processes of organ transplants and going on the medication
to make sure that there is no rejection. And in
Danny's case, he had a bit of a scare with
that recently, but the good news is it was nothing
more than a scare and his body is continuing to
accept that new organ. And I think that's going to
be the case with Jackson as well, because sometimes even

(02:03:36):
though the kidneys work in a completely different aspect than
say the heart, in this Franciscan Health Feel good good
for the Heart Friday, we see a story where it
was the heart of somebody else that allowed them to
make that donation for the kidney. So Jackson, we say
best of luck to you. We say congratulations, as odd
as that sounds, on your perseverance, and we look forward

(02:03:59):
to seeing what you were able to do back on
the tennis court at North Montgomery, and I wish the
very best for that. Also on a personal level, two
things that I wanted to share on this day that
makes it a great Friday. A great Friday I mentioned
earlier with Stephanie White, and I've made mention to it
on a few occasions on this show that in July

(02:04:20):
my father suffered two strokes and his heart history is
one that I've been aware of it. I'm so keenly
aware of it, which is, you know, part of why
this particular segment of the radio show is so important
to me, and in the case of my father, it
has been. And we're very fortunate. We're very fortunate in
the fact that you know, cognitively the two strokes that

(02:04:42):
he had did not have significant impact on him, but
physically speaking, it did. And it's been a long road.
It's been a long journey. It still is a long
one to go, no question. But during the course of
the show today, my sister sent a picture, my oldest sister,
who has been the rock and all of this to

(02:05:04):
the rest of my family, that my dad was able
to transfer today from his chair to his bed. He
was able to do so standing up without the assistance
of the machines. And that sounds so basic, but it's not.
And I'm telling you, like that's those are the little journeys,

(02:05:25):
those are the little victories that you look for. And
I don't mean to get emotional about it, but it is.
And it's something so small, right I mean, it's something
so small in that case, but I know how hard
he's worked, and I know how hard people work for it,
and so that is its own victory today. And I
just got that about an hour ago when we were
on the air. My sister sent that photo. And I
know what that means for my dad in particular, to

(02:05:48):
be able to do something even that small, but those
little steps, and Jackson is going to go through those
little steps as well and getting his swing back right.
The other thing I wanted to pass along having nothing
to do with the heart, but it does to an
extent my buddy Mike Byron who Eddie, as you know,
he's the guy I go on trips with it forgets
everything right, Miss Keith the wallet, Yeah, Mike. I mean

(02:06:08):
Byron is a is an absent minded guy, no question
about it.

Speaker 2 (02:06:11):
But last trip, if it was you though, that's right,
I did.

Speaker 1 (02:06:15):
Actually I left my wallet behind wallet and my keys,
I think when I was with Byron. But Byron today
and I didn't even know this was going to take place,
but again over the course of the show today he
sent this. Mike is in his second marriage and the
woman that he married, Anne Marie, who's great is a
widow and she has children of her own, including a

(02:06:38):
young boy, Cole, and Cole lost his father at a
very young age, and his father, Jason, passed away, and
so therefore Mike goes into a situation where he has
a step son once he and a Marie were married,
and Cole is a great kid, and he and Mike
have had a very special bond, no question about that.

(02:07:01):
And in no way, shape or form would Mike or Anne,
Marie or even Cole expect that this means that it
is replacing the legacy, the love, the commitment that Jason
had for Cole. But with Jason passing away and then
Mike coming into the picture, I don't know whether it
was Cole that requested it or whether it was Mike

(02:07:23):
that simply had the discussion, but I know in the
times that I talked to Byron and the things that
he does with Cole and taking him to ballgames and
practices and whatever else. Today, Cole became Cole Alan Fraser
Byron by combining the two last names, because Mike adopted
him officially as his father now and again, not to
take the place of Jason, but rather to carry on

(02:07:45):
the duty that Jason would have liked. And I can
tell you that while I did not know Jason Fraser,
there would be no one better to carry on the
paternal legacy than what Mike will do so little victories
in their own right today. Thank you, Thank you for
working through that with me. And those are the things
that are so important, just in terms of whether it

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be the medical function of your heart or the spirit
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Some would say so bro I don't I just say
Broader Bowl, North Side, whatever you want to call it.
Binkley's one of the best spots you're gonna find on
the North Side. They've got they got a great like
kind of a backbar, they have a fabulous menu, and
they have JMV there today. Who is going to be
there for getting everything set up for the weekend of football,
including the Colts and Raiders coming up Lucas Oil Stadium

(02:08:49):
on Sunday, John, great location for you. Do we have John?
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(02:09:09):
at Binkley's right now. I don't know, but one of
them probably just sent me a text like, wait, did
John just drop his headsets? Johnny there, I'm here, buddy,
Sorry about that. That's okay?

Speaker 9 (02:09:19):
Did you?

Speaker 8 (02:09:19):
Heyah, Hey Eddie, you didn't pick up any of that conversation.
I was just having this yet.

Speaker 9 (02:09:24):
No good see that is That's one hell of a
producer you got there, Jake.

Speaker 8 (02:09:29):
And no, that's true because.

Speaker 9 (02:09:32):
Would you like to just on the conversation, but James
probably would be documenting every word I just said for redistribution.

Speaker 1 (02:09:41):
Uh. Bankley's is awesome, man.

Speaker 8 (02:09:43):
Yeah, it is awesome. You know what, I've been here before, Jake.

Speaker 9 (02:09:47):
I've never done a live show here, so this is
like new ground for me doing a live show.

Speaker 8 (02:09:52):
But I've been here before. Courtney is the owner. We're
going to talk to Courtney a little bit later on.

Speaker 9 (02:09:57):
But there are very few locations that are as unique
Jake as Binkley's here.

Speaker 1 (02:10:02):
Yeah, it's a great spot. I mean it has been
for a long time. And you got plenty to talk
about as well, because not only obviously Colts and Raiders,
but plenty it unpacked big weekend of college football as well,
which lined up on the Big Show.

Speaker 9 (02:10:16):
Well, we got I'm sure Mike Wells is back. Actually,
I take that back. Mike is not on today, I
don't think so. We got Joel a Ericson who comes
on every Friday now because he's first in Joel on
Fox fifty nine. Hagen's normally here. Hagen is not here today.
And we got Don Fisher voice of the Hoosiers, Bob
Lovell as well. To get everybody set for the Raiders

(02:10:38):
and the Colts. Now, I had Lindsey Monroe was all
of me yesterday and she propped up you guys coming
up tomorrow for what is going to be the start
of I guess October Fest.

Speaker 1 (02:10:48):
Let's go, baby, I'm telling you yeah, tomorrow from noon
until four right in front of the Anthony, and we're
going to be there for I think they'll call it
German Fest now. But the Wiener Dog Races or the
Core got on Corgi races whatever. I just simply say
the wiinardog racist. But it is the absolute best. And
this is like, it's got to be five or six
years in a row that lindsay and I've done it.

(02:11:08):
We love it. Now.

Speaker 9 (02:11:10):
Did you ever play basketball when they had a basketball
court in the Anthonym?

Speaker 1 (02:11:14):
No? And I wish I couldn't you know that? Oh
I wish that would have been the best, man, I've
played a task.

Speaker 9 (02:11:20):
It reminds me of like like York, New York City,
totally like an inner city type of basketball court and
a small space.

Speaker 8 (02:11:28):
It was awesome.

Speaker 9 (02:11:29):
I went one on one full court a number of
times when I worked at Channel thirteen on a Saturday
morning when I finished with Mark Barnheiser, whose son Brooks
Barnheiser plays for OKC now and he's the head coach
of Lafia Jeff.

Speaker 8 (02:11:43):
We went one on one full court in there all
the time.

Speaker 1 (02:11:47):
Now, the Tabernacle has a gym like that where you
feel like you're playing in the Chicago club or the
you know, the New York or the Chicago like public leagues, right,
which is awesome. Yeah, would you remember the scene in
Rounders when when Edward Norton's character was hiding out.

Speaker 9 (02:12:04):
Yes, and he was in that gym. That's exactly what
the Anthon A and Jim reminded me of.

Speaker 1 (02:12:08):
That's that's like tab now the other one. There's a
a lot of people don't know this, John. This is
a benefit to where we work, but at the same
time a challenge. There is technically a basketball court in
the basement of this building, but it's like eight foot ceilings.
And I don't know about you, but I can't shoot.

Speaker 8 (02:12:25):
Hey, can I share something with you right now? You
think we'll get in trouble for this, Jake.

Speaker 9 (02:12:29):
So it's two fifty three and our program directors calling
me right now, two fifty three and we're together, and
our program directors call me right now?

Speaker 8 (02:12:41):
Do you think he just lost track of time?

Speaker 1 (02:12:46):
Possibly?

Speaker 8 (02:12:48):
Maybe you should answer it?

Speaker 1 (02:12:50):
Answer it? Can you answer it?

Speaker 8 (02:12:52):
Make sure we're still doing the show? No, man, Well,
I could say, hey, man, what are you doing? We're
doing the crossover brought to you by Love Eating an
air right now.

Speaker 9 (02:13:00):
Nah, I wouldn't want to make him feel bad, which
is probably exactly what I'm doing right now by saying
this on the air. But no, I go hey, man,
we're on the air right now doing the crossover, so
now it's it's pretty funny. He normally does, Jake, I
will say this, and the crossover with Love Eating Ears
is a little bit still fresh and new. But he
normally calls me on Fridays at this time anyway, so

(02:13:23):
there's nothing really really new. But I found it funny.

Speaker 1 (02:13:26):
All right? Well, as did you? Did you make sure hey,
don't lump me into this. Come on now, don't bring
me into it. I made it this far this week.

Speaker 9 (02:13:38):
Come on now right, Wait a minute, now, my producer's
calling me.

Speaker 8 (02:13:42):
James. Hey, Eddie, man, would you tell James when I'm
talking right now? What hey? Am I saying something wrong?
Am I doing something wrong? But is he not? Is
James not even in the studio yet?

Speaker 1 (02:13:56):
I haven't seen James. I don't know why he's not either.
He's probably maybe maybe maybe they might have been calling
to find out who can actually produce for you here.
Maybe that's what it is, righty?

Speaker 8 (02:14:07):
Can you ay Eddie when James comes in there? Say now,
Jake's calling me? Hey, wait, which James Boyd get a
call it? James Boyd to Kevin boy Gonna call me
in a little bit.

Speaker 1 (02:14:19):
Those guys are napping, man, they've been up since seven
o'clock this morning. All right, colts, raiders will get score predictions.
I'm gonna go right here by the way, twenty nine
twenty four colts, eddie your thoughts thirty three to twenty colts.
All right, John will have his prediction later. He will
get you all set for the weekend. Joel Ericson on
as well tomorrow at the Anthonyum. John, we will throw
it to you here in just a minute. Lindsay Monroe

(02:14:41):
and I will be out doing the Winard dog races.
Come by and say hi for German Fest. In the meantime,
have a wonderful weekend and enjoy listening to John and
I appreciate you listening to Quarrying Company

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