Fever Beat Mercury + Colts Night Practice Preview! Tony Stewart, Zak Keefer, David Feherty Join!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The Colts practice this evening that is still a go,
despite the fact that it is the polar vortex and
it's misty outside. All of a sudden, we moved from
literally West Texas to Seattle in the span of a day.

Speaker 2 (00:20):
I wish we moved to Seattle on the span of
a day.

Speaker 1 (00:22):
Let me tell you, Jake, uh huh, one of your
favorite places.

Speaker 2 (00:26):
Right. Oh.

Speaker 1 (00:26):
Yeah, the weather is not necessarily great outside, but it
actually feels kind of good after everything that obviously it's
been the last few days. But practice is still scheduled
for this evening, at least as of fifteen minutes ago.
Like all plans are going for them to be outside,
not moving inside, et cetera. I know that fans have

(00:47):
been looking forward to that J and B will be
out there broadcasting. But before we get into that and
we discuss everything going on with the Colts camp. As
a matter of fact, Bob Kravitz going to join us
today on the program. Pretty big news in the world
of Indianapolis and motorsport in general. And I certainly understand.

(01:08):
I certainly understand and respect and appreciate that there are
probably people that are saying to themselves, Jake it's July.
It's late July, like we're about to turn to August.
The Colts have a night practice and their schedule is
getting gone away before we know it. Here and the

(01:28):
Fever had a big night last night and a player
got booed, and that is of note. And you still
have the quarterback controversy. And one of the biggest stars
in American sports was performing last night and Eddie's mom
went to go see and then there were cramps by
the athlete and that shut that down. And there's a

(01:49):
lot going on. And you're gonna lead with yes, I am,
while the numbers are not concrete to my understanding. And
I also want to make clear, as I do sometimes
when it comes to talking about the Indianapolis Motor Speedway,
the disclaimer that I am not none of what I'm

(02:10):
about to say is in any way, shape or form
something that like I was directly told because I work there,
in a very peripheral sense, I am a and I
only say this because, just like for example, when you
had the incident with Team Penske and qualifying for the
Indy five hundred, I tried to explain it for those

(02:32):
that were not huge fans or didn't understand it. And
this has major implication from even a business standpoint within
the city of Indianapolis. So before I go into it,
I will again explain because I realized there are probably
people that are like, wait a minute, this dude works there.
I am a seasonal contracted basically subcontracted employee of the

(02:54):
Penske Entertainment Group. The work that I do and that
all of us on the radio network do, we are
seasonal and employees, meaning that we work there not year round,
but we get a ten ninety nine or whatever it's called,
and we work individually under contract for each race broadcast

(03:15):
on the radio side. Excuse me for yawning. So the
radio division under which I work, the IndyCar Radio Network
or Indianapolis Motor Speedway Radio Network, is part of IMS productions,
the Indianapolis Motor Speedway Productions. And if you were to
go way back, and I won't bore everybody with the
nuance of this, but I again believe in precedent and background,

(03:37):
and I think it makes things relatable for people. In
nineteen ninety six, when Tony George, whose grandfather Tony Holman,
had purchased the speedway in the forties and was the
ownership family of the Indianapolis Motor Speedway when Tony George
in nineteen ninety six decided to start his own racing league,
the Indie Racing League, using the Indianapolis five hundred as

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the anchor event to entice people to run his racing series.
In addition to that, Tony George started a television station
and a network of programs across the street from the
Speedway known as WNDY TB twenty three. And his vision,

(04:20):
which was a great one, was to get a television
station that was just all local, all the time. That
would be the flagship station for the Bob Knight Show
and for high school sports and the Hoosier Lottery and
all kinds of different things. So with that idea, they

(04:43):
of course decided we need to be one stop shopping
and run our own basically local media network. So the
Indianapolis Motor Speedway purchased what was called Telex, which was
the in house video department of the Indianapos Motor Speedway
that you would see for years if you went out
to the race or you'd watch the late local news

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and they would show the cars going around the track
that was done by Telex, so the Indianapolis Motor Speedway
Productions acquired both Telex and then expanded beyond that. And
IMS Productions is the production house that puts together everything
that you see when you hear my voice on the
radio doing the race, or Mark James or Nick Yeoman
or Michael Young or Kristin Ai whoever when you listen

(05:27):
to the Indianapolis five hundred broadcast, that is put together
by the parent company IMS Productions. And IMS Productions also
owns a number of television editing and television production equipment
that not only produces and puts together and assembles much
of what you see on an IndyCar broadcast, but also

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professional bull riding. And they have satellite trucks even though
now most people use fiber. They facilitate for other sports properties.
A lot of times, if say the Boston Celtics are
coming to play the Pacers, it's IMS Productions that assist
in the production for the Boston Celtic side of things,
for their stuff to go back to Boston. I say
all that not to bore everybody. I realized that that's

(06:10):
a lot. But the Penske Entertainment Group that Roger Penske
purchased with the Indianapolis Motor Speedway from the Home and
George family. When he made that purchase, he purchased three things.
He purchased the racetrack of the Indianapolis Motor Speedway, he
purchased the IndyCar series, and he purchased IMS productions. Those

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three companies that are all one. So all of those companies,
including the one in which I'm a subcontracted employee, became
known as Penske Entertainment Group at that time. It is
not known by anybody factually how much Roger Penske spent
to acquire those three things, but the estimated number that
has been widely accepted is around three hundred and fifty

(06:54):
million dollars. Today it was announced that the Fox Television
Corporation has purchased one third stake in all three of
those companies, so the Penske Entertainment Group. So basically, if
the Penske Entertainment Group is the United States government, then

(07:15):
you have three branches, the legislative, the executive, and the
judicial branch. In this case, Penske Entertainment Group is the government.
You have three branches, the track, the series, and the
production and Fox paid roughly. Again, no one knows the
exact number, but is estimated or reported to be between
one hundred and twenty five million and one hundred and

(07:37):
thirty five million dollars. To say that they are a
one third owner, that they own one third of that corporation,
they own essentially, for lack of a better phrase, thirty
three percent of Penske Entertainment. That means that they have
an incredible influence over the Indy Car Series, the Indianapolis
Motor Speedway, and IMS Productions. Don't know, And I'm not

(08:01):
just saying this because that means that now there's a
potential additional stamp that goes on the check. I mean,
I think it's important to be transparent about that disclaimer
of my involvement. I don't know how that impacts or
affects any of what we have seen from the IndyCar
Series other than this. I can only assume because what

(08:23):
we know about IndyCar is this, and what we know
about the Indianapolis five hundred is this. And the reason
why this is important to even the non race fan
in Indianapolis is because the Indianapolis Motor Speedway is a
major generator revenue generator for the city of Indianapolis in
terms of its commerce, in terms of its branding, in
terms of its visitation, in terms of its hospitality taxes.

(08:46):
All of that benefits from the Indianapolis Motor Speedway and
hosting the largest single day spectator sport in the world.
And so you want the integrity of that, you want
the investment of that to continue forward. And I think
what happens with any company. You hear me talking about
it with Love Heating and Air. They've been around for
over one hundred years, and what do I say, a

(09:07):
lot of businesses, by the time you get into the
second or third generation, you start dealing with a generation
that doesn't have as much interest in staying involved with
the family business as the initial starter did. I don't
know whether or not the children of Roger Penske are
not as interested as Roger Penske.

Speaker 2 (09:27):
I have no idea.

Speaker 1 (09:28):
That would be totally unfair and disingenuous of me to say.
But Roger Penske is a businessman, and if they felt
that it was in their best interest to bolster the
or stabilize or strengthen the future of the business by
getting other people involved. The Pacers did it. They sold
a percentage of their ownership, did Herbsimon, you know, within

(09:51):
the last two years. So the bottom line is this
the one thing about IndyCar, which is a niche sport,
and anymore I feel like anything outside of the NFL
feels like a niche sport, but IndyCar is absolutely a
niche sport at best. And when you are a niche sport,
you become increasingly by year concerned or interested in what

(10:15):
is going to happen with your television partner if you
are not getting the ratings that you were once getting.
And ratings are a little bit harder to tabulate now
as well, because more people are watching on streaming, they're
watching on demand, those sorts of things. But if your
television ratings are not such that you are able to
monetize that and become lucrative, then then you start to ask, Okay,

(10:37):
what happens if this television deal goes away? TV drives
everything we know that look at the NFL. Why do
you think the NBA goes under a new collected bargain
degreement gets a new salary cap. It's because the TV
money's coming in and you got to make sure and
that changes the dynamic of what everything's worth. And so
with this deal, because it is a television partner, the

(11:00):
one that currently airs the IndyCar series. The good news
here is this is a series because it's niche that
needs as much promotion as it can possibly get, that
needs as much financial backing from a television partner as
it can possibly get, and now it has it in
the greatest form because the television partner is the one

(11:21):
now that has a financial immediate interest in growing the
product and becoming the promoter. What that means for the schedule,
What that means for the number of races, or number
of ovals, or the strategies of the races themselves, I
don't know. We will find that out. But the other

(11:43):
thing that I think is interesting is this now with
the Brickyard four hundred, for example. And I'll have to
look up. I was a little tied up this morning,
so I didn't get a chance to look this up
on my way in. But T and T aired the
NASCAR race this year at the Indianapolis Motor Speedway. NASCAR
has a television deal where some of its racist part
of its schedule is on Fox. Part of its schedules

(12:05):
on T and T. Obviously, I would assume that at
some point the Brickyard four hundred goes back to being
a Fox property, notably because Fox now is a one
third owner of that venue, and I can't imagine that
Fox is gonna say, we own this racetrack, but let's
make sure that we're making it as big as big
and bad as possible for T and T to make

(12:26):
money off of. So we won't know for some time
what this all means. But it is interesting because I
have heard people say, and people have asked me on
the regular, hey, what do you think will happen to
the speedway if Roger Penske's not around or if Roger
Penske's not involved? And now we know that there is
at least I'm not saying that it eventually all goes

(12:48):
over there, but we now know that there is yet
another invested partner to making sure that the health of
the IndyCar Series in the Indianapolis Motor Speedway is not
only where it needs to be now, but where it
needs to be going forward. And it will be some
time before we know exactly where all that goes and
what all that means. It's an interesting day to have

(13:09):
in studio in thirty minutes from now, a guy that
I think is a synonymous with the Indianapolis Motor Speedway
as anyone who has never had an ownership group in it,
but he knows a little about ownership in the business
of sport. And that's Tony Stewart. And Tony Stewart's going
to be here in about thirty minutes. And if you
want to know the business savvy of Tony Stewart, if
you want to know the Tony Stewart is a polarizing dude.

(13:32):
I don't think Tony Stewart woul be the first to
tell you that, but I think this is brilliant. The
US Nationals is I mean, that is the crem de
la creme event for NHR racing, and the NHR, you know,
drag racing is a big deal. They get good television numbers,
they have good partners, and they have big stars like

(13:53):
Tony Stewart, who is now second in the top fuel points.
But Tony Stewart is a businessman and a pretty smart dude.
And so they reached out and said, hey, you know,
Tony's gonna come around Indianapolis on the thirty first, do
you want him to come in studio and I said,
of course. And then I said, I got to ask,
though the US Nationals is because I thought, are the

(14:14):
Nationals early this year? And I looked it up in
the US Nationals as they always are beginning of September
it runs actually August twenty seventh through September first. And
the answer was no, Tony wants to make sure that
he is talking about this and promoting it well in
advance so that people can plan their trip to come
out and buy tickets ahead of time and et cetera.
And I thought, now, see, that's brilliant because so often

(14:38):
you hear people that will reach out and want to
promote and sell tickets for something and then they're like, oh,
by the way, it's tomorrow. Well, I mean, Eddie, you
probably already have your weekend plan.

Speaker 2 (14:49):
Correct. No, Okay, I'm just kidding, guy. I do got
fever game Friday night, hosting Indiana Sports Talk on Saturday night.
It'll be the final show before Bob Lovel's return next weekend.

Speaker 1 (15:00):
Yeah, so you know the I just think that's really smart.
It was really savvy on behalf of Tony Stewart. But
I'll be interested also to see his thoughts his reaction
to this news today from a business aspect in motorsports,
fever last night, get a win and there were boobirds out,
Is that right, Eddie?

Speaker 2 (15:17):
Yeah? I mean did you expect that? I mean, it's sports.
You're to anticipate a player being booed when they leaving.
The way in which de Wanta Bonnor, Dad, it just
felt like she quit on the fever.

Speaker 1 (15:28):
I think that's it. I think it's the fact that
Dewana Bonner, you know, I think it was pretty clear
that it was just wasn't going to work out with
Dewanna Bonner. From the times it was just a bad fit.
Stephanie White said it to a bad fit, right, yep. So,

(15:49):
and yes, she had played with Stephanie White and it
was thought that she was going to be, you know,
a big acquisition, but from the time that she was signed,
it did just something was a little bit off right, right. So, yes,
even if it had been a mutual parting, the fact
that the way in the fashion in the middle of
the year that she left certainly looked like she walked

(16:10):
in and said, you know what, I kind of went
out of here. So I understand the vitriol that came
last night from fans booing her as opposed to you know,
there are some players, there are some players that will
get They get like the video tribute, even when they
leave as a free agent. If it's under if it's
a mutual breakup, there's never a mutual breakup. But if

(16:32):
there's the mutual breakup, right, I mean, let's be real.
Jerry Seinfeld and his girlfriend was at Geeni Garoffalo that
played his girlfriend. They were the last mutual breakup in
the history of mutual breakups. Right, it's one. There's one
that's ever happened. There's always one side or the other
that precipitates it, but nonetheless so in this one, that's

(16:56):
the perception. It does make me wonder, Eddie, because he
was a great player for a long time. What will
the reaction be when Miles Turner comes back. Yeah, because
he was a free agent, good one and there if
there are fans, it would be really poor business and

(17:20):
really dumb of me to use my radio show to
tell fans how to behave People don't want to hear that.
They don't and it's not my place to tell people
what to do. When they spend money for a ticket. Okay,
But with that said, if you are somebody who has

(17:42):
been or disenfranchised or upset or expressed any sort of
concern whatever you want to call it over the Pacers
not anteing up enough money to retain Miles Turner or
not coming with a bigger offer from the get go,
or not being willing to go into the tax, of
which I think is true. But if that's your vantage point, understandable.

(18:06):
But at the same time, then you can't do the
guy right. You can't on one hand say the Pacers
are at fault for the for the departure Myles Turner
because they slighted him, and then on the other hand
be mad at Myles Turner for.

Speaker 2 (18:16):
Leaving well, Jake. That would require the fans to be
you know, logical. If you're a fan, come on now,
or you're not thinking logically. Here I have with my fandom.
I've told you before there are two teams that I
still have like a like that fandom about because when

(18:37):
you do what we do, I'll give you a good example.
Maybe it's a bad example. So I mentioned the other day,
and I don't pretend that people need and certainly even
care about hearing about things in my personal life. But

(18:58):
because I mentioned it on the air, I'll give the
follow up. You know that my dad is currently in
the hospital. He's eighty four years old. He is cognitively
in very good shape, but he had a stroke and
that there's a lot that goes into that in terms
of the recovery, the process, the ups and downs. It's
not the easiest thing in the world. And for him,

(19:20):
I know, it's a very difficult thing from a pride
standpoint as much as anything. So the other day I'm
in his room. Actually this morning I was there and
the nurse came in and just had to tend to,
you know, the things that take place, and I don't
mean drawing your blood, but just getting you, you know,
your morning, getting you cleaned, getting you ready in the morning.
And my dad was like, well, you know, ja, come,

(19:41):
you know you you have to like set your dignity
and your modesty aside. And I said, Dad, these people
do this every single day. They do it every single day.
They change people, they clean people, they do that. These
saints at hospitals do this every single day. So that
don't even worry about what they're thinking about this and yes,

(20:02):
I'm not comparing my job to being a medical provider,
but for any of us, your professionalism within your craft
gets to a point where you are you see everything antiseptically.
You see everything almost like medically speaking, in terms of
the way you break things down at your job differently

(20:22):
than other people would see it. And when you do
what we do for a living, or certainly you know
job would be the first to tell you this. When
you get the credential for games, and when your job
is to objectively opine about games, you just sterilize it
to a point where your fandom kind of goes away
in terms of the highs and the lows that go

(20:44):
with watching a game and the excitement level and drinking
beers with your buddies and eating corn dogs while you're
watching the game, all those things, because for the most part,
you're in a press box and you're just looking at
it from almost a scientific standpoint of what's happened action
and reaction over the course of a game. And that
has become that way for me, except for the fandom

(21:07):
and me still exists. With this PACER's run that just happened,
I was open about that, and then for Clemson football,
because that's the team that I intentionally picked thirty years
ago as my outlet so that it didn't compromise like
professionalism and with Clemson, for example, Eddie, I'm totally irrational.
I'm totally irrational. I watched the game. What's that irrational?

(21:28):
That's the word.

Speaker 1 (21:29):
I was looking at Ohio State playoff game a couple
of years ago. Clemson's down. They're down in the first half,
and Shannon got up, moved on the couch. They turned
the ball over, and I said, that's it. I gotta go.
I can't watch it here. What do you mean, I
can't watch it here. It's bad luck. I gotta go home.
Every time I watch you here they lose. She's like,
you're kidding, right, I'm not kidding at all. She made
a video of me pacing back and forth looking irrational,

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and then I left. I went home and watched and
they came back and won. Now, CJ, you can cite
that this upcoming season.

Speaker 2 (21:55):
If something like that happens, since she calls you crazy,
because if I'm not mistaken, something like that happened with
the Pacers this year in the playoff run with her right.

Speaker 1 (22:02):
Yes, she during the playoff run, she went to the tunnel.
I'm not watching it. I'm not watching it. She went
to the tunnel during one of their comebacks.

Speaker 2 (22:11):
Uh huh, exactly.

Speaker 1 (22:12):
So they now have a permanent place for her right
next to that little riding bike.

Speaker 2 (22:19):
The Shannon P.

Speaker 1 (22:19):
Wall standing zones. That's exactly right. Tony Stewart in Studio
twenty two from now, Bob Kravitz as well Colts Night
Practice Tonight a Thursday edition Quarying Company. And did you
say that we have added a guest in the two
o'clock hour on this already action packed which and I'm
happy for that day.

Speaker 2 (22:38):
Yes, Jake. Former Indianapolis cold speat writer with the Indie
Star Zach Kiefer, will join the program at two o'clock.
He had a pretty interesting piece on Anthony Richardson, and
a large part of it, Jake I found interesting is
Zach can talk more about it, but just what Richardson
focused on this off season with improving us throwing mechanics,

(22:58):
because it felt like when he went back and watched
his tape from last season with his throwing coach, they
felt like there was a specific thing within his mechanics
that resulted in so many misthrows high last year, and
that's why you see some of the videos now more
and more of Anthony Richardson leaning up to the start
of these practices, doing these like simulated walkthroughs of what

(23:22):
they're going to be working on.

Speaker 1 (23:23):
You know the thing that and I'm gonna see if
I still have it here. When he first started out
Anthony Richardson in the NFL, he sean King, not the
polarizing rider, but the former NFL quarterback who still serves
as an analyst and was with Tampa played at Tulane.

(23:53):
He said that when it comes to and this was
I'm going back to in twenty twenty three, said that
when Anthony Richardson and would throw that he was dropping
his elbow too low. And when he dropped his elbow
too low, then on his rotation, you know, his arm
is not raised up high enough. And that's what and

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so because he's letting go from a lower point, he's
compensating there at the last minute by raising it over
that that was the reason for overthrows a lot of times,
because his rotation just wasn't where it needed to be,
and that's why it was so inconsistent. You know, it's
probably not unlike any other sport where it's just a

(24:36):
matter of repetition and muscle memory. Muscle memory is such
an important part of it, and I think it's easy
for us to sit here and say, like it's easy
for me to sit here and say, how does Anthony
Richardson not know how to throw the football? How do
you get to this point as an NFL player and

(24:57):
you've got to be taught to throw the football? Let
me get this straight. You're telling me that Harvard selected
you to run their biochemistry department and you're still trying

(25:20):
to memorize the periodic table. It's easy to say that,
but I think what we are failing to again register
is the fact that Anthony Richardson is such an athletic freak.

(25:43):
And I mean that in a good way, not a
bad way. He is so athletically naturally gifted that the
little things that a lot. There's two kinds of quarterbacks,
there's a quarterback that There's two kinds of diamonds. Right,
you got a diamond that grows naturally through process in

(26:06):
through pressure, and then you got diamonds that are made
in a lab. And the one that forms naturally from
coal through pressure, goes through all of the proper steps
that have to that it has to go through to
form into a diamond. The other one is just made

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in a lab and pops out and it looks just
like the regular diamond, but it has no concept of
the pressure that the first one went through. They look
the same, but one of them didn't go through the
same process. And Anthony Richardson, to some extent, is almost
like a lab grown diamond. He just naturally, not naturally

(26:50):
because lab growns, you know. But he is so gifted
that I don't know that he is aware of the
steps that most quarterbacks have to go through, and so
he never had to learn because he was bigger than
everybody on the field. He was faster than everybody on
the field. And when you are that big and that
fast and you can carry the football and run the
football and do other such things like that, you don't

(27:11):
have to move the football by being a totally precise
on the ball thrower. And now he's having to learn
that because in the NFL, the speed, the gaps, the
collapse time of everybody else has caught up to what
normally separated him naturally. And that's the challenge that he has. Now,

(27:34):
that's why the Colts have been so patient on it,
because they're like, man, if he could figure that out,
look out. Because the tuck and run he's got figured out.
The long ball on the back foot he's got figured out.
But you've got to be able to do all those
other little things. And Zach Kiefer has the column about it.
There is a lot of speculation, Eddie about where this

(27:58):
has come from in the offseason, because didn't everybody and
their brother just naturally assume that Anthony Richardson was working
out with the same coach that had worked with Josh
Allen Chris has I believe is the guy's name that
was always the the assumption. And I think now and

(28:22):
Keifer will be able to when we talked to him
at two o'clock better get into this. But I think
what we're going to learn is that he has not
worked with him. But it does appear he's been better
in this camp. It does appear. But I keep going
back to you have to before you make that decision,

(28:44):
make sure that you are getting that this is the
real Anthony Richardson, you know, kind of like I let
me tell you what happened to me when I was
in high school. Intend do you ever have the police
have to call your parents?

Speaker 2 (28:56):
No? So I was responsible. Jake.

Speaker 1 (29:01):
I had one buddy when I was growing up. He's
a great dude. It's a great dude. It's like a
brother to me. My parents love him. But he was
he was a troublemaker. He was an instigator, not by
his own but he and I together were dynamite in
the match. It's a bad deal. Every time we were
to get like, we just we just came up with mischief,
nothing major, but just dumb stuff. So one night he's

(29:27):
over at my house. We're getting ready to go out
the summer before I think my junior or senior year
of high school was beginning, so like right when we
had our driver's license. I can't remember WHI year it was.
And my dad is saying to him, now, Chris, and
I'm not saying any last names here. Now, Chris, you know,
you and Jake are like dynamite in the match, and
I don't know if I can trust you. You're like

(29:49):
Eddie Haskell. You know, my dad's pretty keen guy, right well, Jake,
I mean you're his son.

Speaker 2 (29:53):
So Apple doesn't fall far from the tree, so thank you.

Speaker 1 (29:57):
So Chris says, no, no, no, mister Querry, I've turned over
a new leaf. I'm the new Chris. My dad says, Okay.
We go out that night and that is the one
night of my life where the my social evening ended
with the men in blue and the women in blue
and the finest of Indianapolis calling my parents saying we

(30:19):
have your son. You need to come down to this day. Okay,
we're fifty two years old. Chris now has one of
the most respectable jobs and as an influencer of young
people that you could have. And to this day, when
my dad sees him, he's like, oh, look, it's the
new Chris. Turn over the new leaf.

Speaker 3 (30:38):
Huh.

Speaker 1 (30:39):
Never let him live it down. But you can say
that you're new, you can say that you're changed, but
it doesn't mean that you are. That's the bottom line, right,
that's the bottom line. Tony Stewart going to join us
in studio, going to do so shortly. We will find
out not only what he's going to do to try
to get himself that NHRA championship, about the US Nationals

(31:00):
coming up, but also his thoughts on this news with
the Indianapolis Motor Speedway and IndyCar Series as well, A
lot to get to Bob Kravitz one o'clock hour, Zach
Key for two o'clock hour, quarrying Company here on the
fan nineteen minutes before the one o'clock hour. Jake Querry
along with Eddie Garrison. Tony Stewart going to be joining
us here shortly on his way in US Nationals coming

(31:23):
up August twenty seventh out at And you know what,
I got to ask Stuart, because I always get confused
by this. I always just say IRP, But I know
it's like I've got to get the correct term. Because
they've changed sponsors a few times, They've always been good
to me. I want to make sure that I'm doing
it correctly, you know what I mean. At one time

(31:44):
it was Lucas Oil Raceway. I'm assuming that is still
the case. Lucas Oil Indianapolis Raceway Park, I believe is
the correct title for that for the US Nationals. But
Stuart actually is going to be doing a dodge paint
scheme that the fans voted on, which is pretty cool
for that. Eddie, your mom went last night to see

(32:04):
sho heo Tani and then show Heo Tani said, uh no,
Moss is that right?

Speaker 2 (32:09):
Oh yeah, he had cramps last night. I'm like, really,
we're cramping up? What are we doing? Show hey now,
drinking enough water, getting enough pedia light? What's the deal here?
I went to that game on uh it Tuesday night.
I was like, oh cool, I get to see a

(32:29):
show Tony. Maybe he'll do something. Strike out, strike out,
strike out? Now where were the cramps?

Speaker 4 (32:36):
Nobody knows, nobody really until last time you got you know,
he should have gotten you know what he should have done.
See this is I don't know what's going on with
the Dodgers training staff, but how did they not know
that you just get a couple of yellow mustard packets,
suck on those bad boys, cramp gone cross.

Speaker 1 (32:53):
I'm telling no, listen, listen say it, say.

Speaker 2 (32:55):
It all you want. Mustard is disgusting.

Speaker 1 (32:57):
I'm not saying it's great, but I'm saying, if you
take two mustard packets, bota boom, but a ban no
more cramps, guarantee woes. Huh pickle juice, same thing, same thing?
What do you think is it mustard? I would much
rather have pickle juice. You can drink it straight, right, Yeah,
but that's harder to carry, like you can't pickle juice
you got because you got to have the pickles in

(33:18):
the jar. So it's a lot harder in your pocket
if you're a baseball player to carry out jar pickles
in the pocket. But you get two of those little
mustard packets and if you're Phil Nekro, you mix it
an memory board. You're good to go, right cross, so
you know, good to go, And that would have taken
care of the cramping problem. But the Reds came back

(33:40):
and got a win last night, right, they did nice.

Speaker 2 (33:42):
Win last night from the Red Spencer Steer how to
go ahead triple? So yeah, win. They still are the
only team in Major League Baseball that has not been
swept this year. They still have not right, no thirty
five or thirty six series this year, no sweeping.

Speaker 1 (33:59):
The Colts practicing tonight under the lights Grand Park, Westfield.
And this is a true night practice. This is not
a late afternoon practice that's going to go into dark.
It's a true night practice, Eddie to me, and I
think that's still on schedule. I understand that people are like, hey,

(34:19):
is it because do we know the forecast. Is it
supposed to rain later tonight? Let me check because I
don't know if that if they would move the practice. Hey, Jake,
did you just say pickles in your pockets? The jar?
Get your mind out of the gutter, folks, Come on now.

Speaker 2 (34:40):
Westfield looks good, just going to be a cloud. Wow,
it is only sixty eight one. I told you I'm
wearing the long sleeve shirt today. Seventy degrees or yes,
seventy degrees, yes, forty five degree difference from you one
hundred and fifteen yesterday, seventy today. By the way, Jake
got a couple of compliments via YouTube. You can also
watch us on Facebook and on x at one of

(35:03):
someone by the fan about your little long sleeved Jackie
got there the Adidas Oasis thing.

Speaker 1 (35:09):
Are people being sarcastic?

Speaker 5 (35:10):
No?

Speaker 2 (35:11):
Really? Yes, really, people like the like the jacket. I
told listen, what's on the back of that bad boy.

Speaker 1 (35:19):
That's the only problem. And we'll get into Colt's camp
and what I'm looking for tonight in just second here. So,
as I mentioned when we went to the concert, and
I know people are tired of hearing about the concert.

Speaker 2 (35:31):
I get it.

Speaker 1 (35:31):
It was like a life changing event for me. But
when we went to the concert, I cannot emphasize how
big Oasis as a band is in England. I mean
Taylor Swift times three. I'm not kidding you, Okay. So
they have a partnership with Adidas and they set up
an Adida's Oasis store in Manchester, a pop up stores

(35:53):
three stories. There were seven of them, just like if
you go to like Nike town On in Chicago. So
I went there and I bought this. This is an
Adida's long sleeve, and my cousin got me one as well.
So I have a zip up and then this one,
and I thought it was super cool. It just has
the Adida's logo, it's navy blue and it just says Oasis.
The back I think is awesome. The only problem is

(36:16):
it's dated. So here's my question, Eddie. I'm going to
turn around. I want you to read the back, and
then I want you to tell me what the shelf
life is of the garment that I'm wearing.

Speaker 2 (36:26):
Okay, And here's the thing.

Speaker 1 (36:27):
And I realized that we're on radio, not on YouTube
or not on television other than the YouTube, but people
can see me, right now, like, if you don't mind
me saying, so this looks good, right, I mean, this
looks good and I model it well? I mean this, listen,
this is fifty two going on twenty seven here, okay,
but let me turn around and you read the back, okay,

(36:48):
and then tell me whether tell me the shelf life
of because I love this. I love it, But tell
me if it has a shelf life?

Speaker 2 (36:54):
Okay. On the back it says the band with the
three stripes live? Is that everything? It says?

Speaker 1 (37:03):
Yeah, okay, So the live twenty five means the live
show in twenty twenty five? Right, So do I only
have like four more months?

Speaker 2 (37:10):
I can wear this? I mean, I mean, you spent
money on it, Jake, you can wear wherever the hell
you want.

Speaker 1 (37:14):
But would it look weird if you see somebody walking
around in a shirt like you know, yeah two or
And here's the other thing, how many if something has
the year on it? What is the number of years
that you have to wait before then you can break
it back out? And it's super cool because it's retro
as opposed to that dude's just wearing a two year
old shirt.

Speaker 2 (37:31):
Well, here's the thing, Jake, I think it's different because
it's an overseas commitment. You flew across the country to
go watch them performing. Maybe you wear it out next
year in twenty twenty six and somebody stuff You're like,
oh you went to you win sell Oasis in twenty
twenty five and in Manchester? How was it? Would I
recommend going.

Speaker 1 (37:50):
By the way also, Eddie, I will let you and
you got to go to the bottom. There's there's a
whole don't read the whole text right here, but I
just got a text from Shannon. I would like for
you to tell me whether or not you find this
to be acceptable for radio broadcast. Okay, as we're talking
about this.

Speaker 2 (38:07):
Nice to know she's listening today. She found out way
you do for a living?

Speaker 1 (38:11):
That's right, Shannon found out yes or no on that text. Okay,
fair enough Colts Camp tonight under the lights at Grand
Park and Westfield. Eddie, you will be looking for what
for this in terms of aside from the quarterback play,
I still.

Speaker 2 (38:28):
Want to see what that starting outside a corner job
does now for Justin Wally considering the fact and still
what the status is moving forward of Juju Brints. I
mean it's pretty Obviously, Jalen Jones is going to be
sidelined for a couple of weeks just with that hamstring injury,
given the nature which he exited practiced earlier in the week.
How does Wally perform now that it may seem like

(38:49):
he is the front runner and his uh, the guy
he was competing with largely is now going to be sidelined, Like,
how does that affect? Does that change the way he
practices at all? How does obviously the two quarterbacks, how
are they performing? Does Anthony Richardson continue to ascend like
the way he has over the last week.

Speaker 1 (39:07):
Or does Daniel Jones take a step? Because we're kind
of what. I don't think Daniel Jones has done anything
to hurt himself, but he hasn't done anything to stand
out either, Right, He's just and maybe that's who he is,
and maybe that's perfectly sufficient. You know, when when New
York eventually punted on pardon the pun, Daniel Jones, maybe

(39:28):
that's because they were waiting patiently to see that step
that made him a franchise quarterback and just didn't see it.
And maybe he's a perfectly sufficient quarterback, but not a
We drafted him in the top five. The problem for
the Colts is they have two guys on their roster
right now that mirror one another in terms of they
now have not one, but two projects. Yeah, and one

(39:51):
of them is going to have to hit, right.

Speaker 2 (39:53):
De wegetus. Does one of the pass rushers have a
nice day today? Does Quitty pay have a nice day?
Does Lats You finally have a day where you're like, oh, look,
that's why they drafted him?

Speaker 3 (40:02):
You know?

Speaker 1 (40:05):
Defensive player in the night two is another one that
I mean a lot too. Was the first defender drafted
in his class, right h. So based on that with Latt,
you have the highest of expectations. And yeah, called him
the best edge rusher in the draft.

Speaker 2 (40:22):
You remember that he.

Speaker 1 (40:23):
Laughed, right yeah? And he had a swear word in
there too, Did he really did? Chris likes to swear?

Speaker 2 (40:29):
Oh? He does.

Speaker 1 (40:30):
Pottymouth kind of like the Chris that turned over a
new leaf and then got me arrested. We we you
know who else has a potty mouth? Pat Knight? You
can blame that on his dad that much. We know
that much.

Speaker 3 (40:47):
We know.

Speaker 1 (40:49):
I agree with you that the quarterback competition to me
has overshadowed a couple of other areas. And I thought
it was interesting yesterday when we mentioned this with Joel Erickson,
and that is what about the linebacker spot? Yeah, you
know the linebacker spot. Zire Franklin is a guy that
has put up big numbers, but you also wonder how

(41:13):
much of that is system oriented towards kind of funneling
things towards him. And under a new defense, is he
the same? And I think he's a good player, don't
get me wrong, But is he the same player under
lou Ana Rumo's defense that he was previously?

Speaker 2 (41:30):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (41:31):
And yet and who are the others that are going
to be around him? Is are there young players in
that situation that step in?

Speaker 2 (41:38):
Right?

Speaker 1 (41:40):
Hey, Jake, lots of perfectly sufficient quarterbacks have won Super Bowls,
That's true, And give me the definition or the poster
child of the he's just a sufficient quarterback that won
a Super Bowl.

Speaker 2 (41:52):
I would say the last one that we've had was certainly.

Speaker 1 (41:55):
Peyton manning the second go round.

Speaker 2 (41:57):
Yeah, with Villa. Outside of that had a quarterback that's
had a MVFA type year like Stafford, I mean he
was absolutely fas.

Speaker 1 (42:07):
So Peyton and Denver is a good call. I think
you can make the case for Eli Manning right, Yes,
although he got super hot in the playoffs. Flacco Flacco
is absolutely the poster child of that. But what do
those what do they all have in common that that
Manning team in Denver the historical defense is correct and

(42:28):
I don't know that the Colts have that. Is there
an area on this roster where the Colts are elite
across the board? Well, the secondary could be depending on correct.

Speaker 2 (42:41):
But I don't know that that.

Speaker 1 (42:42):
But I think if you look even in today's NFL
and in that defense where you have elite level defensive
backfield play, you've got to have strength in the middle,
And we just don't know yet whether or not that
linebacking corps and then they're certainly waiting. It looks like
defensively they could be for sure a major upgron right.

Speaker 2 (43:01):
It depends on Yeah, I mean, it's really gonna rely
on Jake. Can they disrupt the timing and get to
the quarterback. That's what it's going to come down to,
because we know lou and Rouma is gonna be aggressive
and blitzing. Can they just get home? Is gonna be
the biggest problem or the biggest factor, because if you
can't speed up that internal clock of an opposing quarterback
and just let him sit back there, then I don't
care who you are, you can pick apart any defense.

Speaker 1 (43:24):
What key losses do you think they had?

Speaker 2 (43:26):
Are there?

Speaker 1 (43:26):
Is there anybody that we're gonna say midway through the
year like man that was.

Speaker 2 (43:29):
Big Diowa Dangbo, just because of his flexibility and his availability?

Speaker 1 (43:34):
Yeah, that's fair, because what's the best ability, Eddie? Availability?

Speaker 2 (43:40):
That is correct.

Speaker 1 (43:42):
The best ability is in fact availability. Tony Stewart is
available entering the building, so we're gonna go down and
grab him and bring him up. How's that, Bob Kravit's
one o'clock hour. Zach Keiffer coming up. In the two
o'clock hour, we've got a little live golf to discussion.
We have tickets to give away, is that right, Eddie?

Speaker 2 (43:56):
Yes, we do, Jake. We've got some uh dropkick Murph
and Bad Religion tickets give away. That is Tuesday, the
ever wise Amphitheater at the White River State Park.

Speaker 1 (44:06):
All right, we'll do that over the course of the
day today as well. But I do promise because I
mentioned it earlier and now officially Tony Stewart going to
join this other side. He is quickly emerging his way
up to the top for top fuel dragsters in the NHR,
just forty eight points out of the championship that he
is chasing, which would be because Tony Stewart, you've won

(44:26):
a championship and every single thing you've ever strapped into.

Speaker 6 (44:28):
Right, We've been fortunate enough to win a lot. I
don't know about everything, but we've given it a shot.

Speaker 1 (44:34):
It's good to see and I wanted to get to
this and I just think this is brilliant. And I
don't say that a lot about people from Columbus, but
you know, I will do it right and rightfully.

Speaker 2 (44:44):
So you know.

Speaker 1 (44:44):
So the US Nationals, which for those that have never been,
I think it's just as an absolute bucket list item
in Indy, especially you know when under the lights, when
the I mean, it's awesome. It touches every sense and
I love everything about it. And when I I knew
that you were coming in town to talk about it,
I thought, well, wait a minute. The US Nationals is
always like around Labor Day this year August twenty seventh

(45:06):
until September first, and I love the fact that you
had the wherewithal to say, yeah, but we got to
let people know about it well in advance so people
can plan for it, which is so much smarter than
just like, hey, it's going to be tomorrow and people
already have their weekend plan.

Speaker 3 (45:20):
Right.

Speaker 6 (45:20):
So that's what That's what I've been telling Josh over here.
That's that's why we're here today. You're really spot on.

Speaker 1 (45:26):
I mean no, honestly because and I get that from
and this is what I like about it. I think
it shows that Tony Stewart is a racer, but yet
you still have the mindset of Tony Stewart. The kid
is a race fan, right, I mean.

Speaker 2 (45:40):
The mother too.

Speaker 6 (45:40):
I mean I have a dirt track, so I mean
we think about that from our standpoint of promoting our
races as well. So it is it's nice to come
in early and talk about it, especially knowing it's a
holiday weekend, so everybody's making plans as kind of the
last rah before summer's over. And and but it is,
you know, going to Indy for US Nationals. That's that's

(46:01):
the Daytona five hundred, It's the super Bowl, It's the
Indy five hundred for drag racing, so it's our biggest
race of the year, and for me it's a home
home race obviously, so it means that much more to me.
But yeah, you know, having the opportunity to start on
Friday night with a night qualify and run, there's nothing
better than watching nitro cars, the funny cars and the

(46:24):
top fuel cars run at night and seeing the flames
out of the pelievable.

Speaker 7 (46:28):
It is insane.

Speaker 6 (46:29):
So I always like the night qualifying sessions and then
we got you know, two more days of qualifying after that,
so it's definitely an awesome weekend. And you know, it's
it's just that marquee event that you circle it on
your calendar every year, not because it's a home event,
but because it's the biggest race for NHI during the
season and that's the one you want to win.

Speaker 1 (46:50):
What fascinates me is this, you know on the air,
so Tony Stuart, you're in a situation where and I
remember the last time we talked, I think even you know,
when you first got into these cars, I don't know
that anybody the including maybe even you, knew how long
you would be running in the top fuel in NHRA,
and yet here you are and in this year, you've
already you know, you've already got two wins on the year,

(47:10):
you've advanced past round one and I think ten of
your eleven weekends, So you know what you're doing, right,
But that's not to say that you always knew what
you were doing. So how much of for this were
you enticed by the learning of it and the having
to chase something that was outside your comfort zone, which
I'm assuming it's been a long time since you were

(47:30):
out of your comfort zone.

Speaker 6 (47:31):
Yeah, you're spot on. It was exactly that way. I
think kind of one of the variables that really helped
draw me into it was my wife Leah. And you know,
during COVIDS when we met, I started going to her
races when NHRA was able to start racing again. She
had went to my sprint car races before that, and
so she asked a lot of questions about the dirt
track side, and obviously when I started going to the

(47:53):
races with her, I had lots of questions, and every
week I had more and more, and it led to
going down to Frank holl He's driving school in Florida,
and then next thing you know, I'm testing her car,
which was the dumbest thing I've ever done in my
entire career, was go from a school car that runs
two hundred and twenty miles an hour to getting in
a three hundred and thirty mile an hour car. I

(48:13):
was definitely not ready for that and not prepared for it.
But you know, I ran a year in the top
alcohol dragster category with McPhillips family, and they raised sound
of Indianapolis here, and you know that got me a
lot more used to what I was doing. And I
still had the opportunity to test once in a while
in Lea's car when they needed me, and that got

(48:34):
me ready to win to side when Leah decided she
was ready to start a family when she got pregnant,
and I was the guy that stepped in. And I'm
just the replacement driver. So this I'm this guy with
NASCAR and IndyCar credentials, but I'm the replacement driver.

Speaker 1 (48:49):
So parents now for eight months.

Speaker 7 (48:51):
Right, Yeah, it seems like eight years, right.

Speaker 1 (48:54):
I remember the last time we talked to you. I
think sleeping at night was like one of your concerns, right.

Speaker 6 (48:59):
And it's continue to be a concern. It's still a concern.
I like talking to people that sleep through the night
and go tell me what it's like, because I can't
even remember what it's like to sleep.

Speaker 2 (49:09):
Through the night.

Speaker 1 (49:09):
Well, listen, I'm old now, so I hardly do right.
But with that said, because that was kind of the
game plan, right, we'll wait and see once the family
starts how long I will be in this. Do you
have a better feel or read now on what that
outlook is.

Speaker 6 (49:25):
I'm in the same mode that Lea's fans are. Lia's
fans are asking when is she getting back in the car,
And I'm sitting on the side in the seat that
I really like being in right now and going I
wonder when she wants her car back, but it is
literally her decision. Honestly, it's whenever she wants to. She's
already been in the car this year in a test session,

(49:46):
and I have a feeling after watching her take her
helmet off and the smile she had on her face,
I have a feeling I'm a short term tenant at
this point.

Speaker 1 (49:55):
Well, but at this point you're chasing a championship, so
you know you gotta carry that out.

Speaker 6 (49:59):
Right, She most definitely will let me finish the season
out for sure. Because of the points, and there's bonuses
that go with that, and that that affects the crew
guy's bonuses at the end of the year. So a
driver swap mid season in this scenario is not advantageous
for anybody.

Speaker 1 (50:15):
Which you've raised everything, right, I mean, whether we're talking
about you know, use X on dirt, whether we're talking
about IndyCar, whether we're talking about you know, cup cars,
which one of them, if any, is the closest to
the learning curve of getting in the top fuel dragsterr I.

Speaker 6 (50:33):
You know, somebody asked me a similar question last weekend
when we were at Sonoma, and I said, ninety to
ninety five percent of the skills that made me really
good at what I did with sprint cars and IndyCar
and NASCAR put it in a box, tape the box up,
put save, and shove it off.

Speaker 7 (50:50):
In a corner.

Speaker 6 (50:51):
Because you don't use ninety to only five percent of it.
It's a different skill set, but there are some variables
that do tame and transfer over and it's actually things
that have helped me be good. And you know, anytime
that we have to pedal the car, for example, on
race day, it spins the tires. You gotta get the
tire caught back up and then roll back into the

(51:12):
gas real slow to not get the tire spinning again.
That is something that other drivers have said, I'm really
good at already, and that's.

Speaker 1 (51:21):
The best at it a long time since you've sat
in the cockpit and not been, you know, immediately the
best at it.

Speaker 6 (51:27):
Right Well, you wouldn't think that that's something that was
going to be a variable in the equation, But because
of what I did in dirt track racing and learning
how to catch the tire and keep it from spinning
if it does turn the tire loose, I've been really
good at catching it, getting the tire caught up, and
getting back in the gas and have won some rounds
that way. So to hear your peers that you're racing
against say he's really good at that, I don't know

(51:49):
that I'm the judge of that, but you know, reaction
time is probably the biggest thing for the drivers, and
I was fifth and average last year, and to me
that was a huge win. Because you had Tony Schumacher,
who's an eight time world champion. We were just ahead
of him. There were a lot of other drivers that
around drag racing a lot longer than me. That we
were outperforming on the reaction time side. But there's four

(52:12):
drivers ahead of us that were still trying to catch
and we're still trying to catch them. But we're closing
in a little bit this year. But it's hard because
it's not like you go outside and you make lapse
and practice that. I mean, it's like Guido Antonelli, that's
ron Kap's crew chief said. He said, reaction time is
exactly that. It's how your brain reacts to seeing that

(52:33):
light coming on and you hitting the gas pedal. So
it's hard to train for that. I'm sure there's probably
better ways.

Speaker 7 (52:39):
To accomplish it, but I just haven't found them yet.

Speaker 1 (52:41):
You know, you strike me Tony Stewart. Tony Stewart, our
guest here in studio. And of course, as we mentioned,
forty eight points out from getting that top Fuel, taking
the top spot top Fuel. Big part of that's going
to be at the US Nationals coming up on August
twenty seventh, that runs till September. First, you're a foight guy,
and by that I mean you're a guy that you
got about a thirty second window before you're ready to

(53:02):
grab a wrench.

Speaker 2 (53:03):
If you have to write.

Speaker 1 (53:05):
With this particular sport, is it the most mechanically inclined
that a driver needs to be of anything that you've
been in in terms of so much of to me,
and I'm just giving you an outsider perspective, and I
know it's the case in every form of motorsports, but
people forget what a team sport it is. But in

(53:26):
this particular one, when you're there and you're going that speed,
everything has to be perfect and so much of that
goes to the men and women that are preparing that
car for you. Is that the case? Are you as
cognitive as aware of that as any time in your career?

Speaker 3 (53:40):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (53:40):
Absolutely, I mean especially when you if you watch us
on Sundays and even during qualifying. I mean will have
two runs normally on each day of qualifying, and when
that car comes back and the cadence and the procedure
those guys, watching them tear the motor down and literally
having it reassembled in forty minutes and ready to fire
is amazing to me. If I can tell you this though,

(54:03):
if I grab a wrench in that pit area, every
crew guy watches me because they're scared to death for
me to touch the rist car of the Rents right now.
But it's super important. Every one of them is specialized
in their field. So whether it's the guy that's assembling
the pistons and rods and he puts those in the motor,
or if it's the guy that's building the heads, putting
the valve springs and the valves in them, all these

(54:25):
different things, they have to be really good at what
they do because you know, nitromethane is a very volatile fuel,
and if things go wrong in a nitrocar, it goes
wrong big and theyre's big booms, big explosions, big pops
when it goes wrong. So you have to trust that
these guys are absolutely doing it the right way. But

(54:45):
to watch them do an assembly in forty minutes is
just insane.

Speaker 1 (54:49):
And you know, Tony, one of the cool things for
folks that go out You know, if you're gonna go
out there and you're gonna stop buy and you're gonna
see the nhr A US Nationals, you get to see
all of it.

Speaker 2 (54:59):
Yeah, I me your ticket and you're.

Speaker 1 (55:00):
Walking around and I mean you're walking right there and
you're seeing people taking apart engines and putting it right
back together. And I mean it's not you're not seeing
it from you know, the jay stand, You're right there.

Speaker 6 (55:11):
Yeah, And I think that's one of the best things
that NHI has to offer. I think that's why I
tell people it's fun to watch it on TV. It's
ten times better to go to the racetrack and be
able to walk around, walk in the pit area. And
when we say feel it, it's it's not reach out
and touch.

Speaker 7 (55:27):
It, feel it.

Speaker 6 (55:27):
But when those cars go by, I mean, our motors
make almost twelve thousand horsepower now, and when that car
goes by, the concussion from the exhaust, you feel it
in your body and you can't explain that to somebody
what that's like. But it's really been fun the last
two years for me, coming from indie car and NASCAR
and dirt track racing. We've had all these fans start

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coming to drag races for the first time, and you
catch them at the end of the day and you say,
what do you think? And the most common response is
we had no idea. That has been the most common response.
They're like, we've watched it on TV, but until you
get down there and you smell the fumes, you see
the burnouts, you physically watch these cars go down the
track in person. You cannot describe it to somebody, and

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they love it. And it's like I tell everybody, if
you're a NASCAR fan, you can still watch NASCAR and
watch drag racing. Same with indy cars, same with dirt tracks.
Doesn't mean you have to give up one to do
the other. But it's really cool to see fans come
out for the first time and enjoy it.

Speaker 1 (56:25):
You are a businessman, Tony Stewart, I mean in addition
to racing. Obviously you own the team. I mean all
you have to do is look at the partners you have.
You're doing a dodge paint scheme for this particular weekend
for the US Nationals. Fans voted on it. You've got
Mobile I on board, You've got direct connection to Vance
Auto Parks. You've got a ton of partners. Okay, the
best media guys. I know you realize you do a
better job at hitting my partners than I do. Well, Hey,

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you know, I mean I got to hit I got
This is the only time I hit the curb curve
dot com by the way, right, Although I will say,
if you and your wife can survive the fact that
you're sharing a car, It's like when my girlfriend and
I went to Ireland and I had to drive the
car and she was a pastor and Ireland with me.
If you can survive that as a couple, you survive anything.

Speaker 2 (57:03):
Right.

Speaker 6 (57:03):
Keep in mind, I think we get away with that
because we don't have to ride with each other.

Speaker 7 (57:07):
In that car.

Speaker 1 (57:08):
That's correct.

Speaker 6 (57:08):
If one was driving and the other was not, I
don't think we would survive one round with.

Speaker 1 (57:13):
Each other, right, You're probably right.

Speaker 3 (57:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (57:15):
But so with the business aspect of it, I wanted
your thoughts on this because there was big business moves
in motorsports today and I'm sure you heard it.

Speaker 7 (57:23):
I've heard, but I don't know anything about it.

Speaker 2 (57:25):
But go ahead.

Speaker 1 (57:26):
So Fox YEP, Fox Television or Fox Broadcasting now has
purchased one third of the Penske Entertainment Group, meaning that
they now have a one third ownership in the Indianapolis
Motor Speedway, the Indy Car Series, and IMS productions. Your
reaction is somebody who has obviously been a part of
really all of those things.

Speaker 6 (57:45):
Like I said, I'm hearing it today as well. For
the first time, and don't really know the details. We've
been doing the car wash so to speak, this week
or today, but I think it's I think it's a
huge move obviously. I mean, that's a massive move that
we've never I don't think you've ever seen a broadcast
partner become a part owner in not only a series,
but and I didn't know the Speedway was part of

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it as well. So for Fox to have part ownership
in the Speedway, I think that is massive at this point.

Speaker 1 (58:12):
And I would assume, I mean, listen, I'm no rocket
scientist by any stretch, but for example, and I'd have
to look at the contracts, and I know you would too,
but you know clearly the T and T partnership with
cup Racing at the Speedway, I would think that.

Speaker 7 (58:26):
Has to come to an end, right if you would assume, So,
I mean, do you.

Speaker 1 (58:32):
Do you see it? As you're a promoter, and I
think at times, Tony IndyCar itself. You know, any promotion
you can get for that series is important. Can a
television partner be an adequate promoter above and beyond just
promoting within their own network and stepping outside of that.

Speaker 6 (58:52):
I definitely think so I think this is a scenario where,
and like I said, just knowing the little bit I
know about it so far, if you've got a cast
partner that is now part owner of a series, they're
going to work even harder to promote that. They have
all the other programming that they're going to have on
the channel, but now being an owner in it, they
have skin in the game, so they are going to

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put even more effort than they would have before.

Speaker 1 (59:16):
Did TV when you were racing Cup, did you ever
feel that TV was too involved, just in terms of
whether it be the schedule, whether it be the the format,
et cetera. Was there ever an overstep?

Speaker 6 (59:29):
I think that was probably the only time I can
think of a scenario where that came into play was
the stage racing, And that was literally what I was
told at the time, was because TV was asking for
five percent more viewership time of the race. So what
fans were doing is they were watching the first twenty
five percent of the race. They were going and mowing

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their yard, going and get lunch and coming back and
watching the last twenty five percent of it. I don't
know what the significance of it was, but getting five
percent more time, and I'm assuming it's in ad dollars
made a huge difference to network, and that's what the
stage racing was all about, was just to try to
gain five percent more viewership.

Speaker 1 (01:00:10):
And I can't recall some part of my ignorance here
that you were still racing that or not. Yes, So
how did it change as a driver?

Speaker 6 (01:00:18):
The Wait a minute, I say that I was not.
I was still an owner, but you were still an owner.
So I was still an owner, but I wasn't a
driver in that.

Speaker 1 (01:00:23):
And so did you? I mean, did you enjoy the
strategy and the new strategy?

Speaker 2 (01:00:26):
Ever? Did you find it hokey?

Speaker 6 (01:00:29):
It wasn't traditional by any means, But I think as
time goes on, you have to find ways to somewhat
so to speak, reinvent. You can't just keep doing the
same trick over and over. The purest and the traditionalists
didn't like it, and there's a ton of people that
don't like the stage racing, but it does create unique

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situations and scenarios where guys needing needing points sometimes would
stay out and take a chance, and guys that we're
in a good place some points come in get tires
before the pit's closed at the end of a segment
and come back out. They might finish twelfth, but then
when the pit cycle comes after that caution comes out
at the end of the stage, then they got the

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lead back. So I think it did create some unique
situations and scenarios that the fans could grasp onto. But
you know, talking to a lot of the fans, it
just wasn't as well received as we all thought it
would be.

Speaker 1 (01:01:23):
Okay, lastly, because I know you got a lunch to
get to, so we'll let you run.

Speaker 7 (01:01:26):
But I want I'm a fat kid. I like food,
you know what I said, And I'm a fat kid.
I like you said.

Speaker 3 (01:01:29):
You know what.

Speaker 1 (01:01:30):
Actually you look like you're not as much as as
the last time I saw you, though I like you.

Speaker 6 (01:01:33):
You realize why I got an eight month old son
now crawls so you can't even turn around and blink
without him being halfway across the room.

Speaker 7 (01:01:40):
So you're just chasing that.

Speaker 1 (01:01:41):
Extra twenty minutes. You're not eating, you're sleeping right, you're yeah,
you can't get tired, dam but I want to give
you the chance. Here August twenty seventh until September first
is the US Nationals. I love it. I've been to
it many times. I think it's a must. But from
your standpoint, I want you to use that microphone to
tell the listeners of Indianapolis why they need to be there.

Speaker 6 (01:02:00):
I think starts Friday night. Friday night's our first run
under the lights. Like you and I mentioned earlier, I
mean you're looking at four foot to five foot tall
flames coming out of each side of the motors or
going down the racetrack. It is incredible sensation. And to
see these cars at night is amazing. Two more days
of qualifying. Funny Car has the call out this weekend,

(01:02:21):
so you got a race with them, right, yeah, yeah,
we're there, and then obviously Monday is the race is
so you know, to be able to come out and
see this. And like you said, every ticket gets you
everywhere but the starting line. You can't get that at
a NASCAR race. You can't go to the Indy five
hundred and just buy a ticket to the stands and
be able to walk in the garage area and see

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the cars and drivers like that. But not only can
you go see and build these motors, the cars do
warm ups in the pits and you can smell it.
You can hear it, you can feel it. It's just
an experience that it's hard to explain. But like I said,
every time we've had new fans that have followed other
forms of motorsports and they've came for the first time.
They love it and they're hooked on it.

Speaker 1 (01:03:01):
It's like a kiss concert except for the music's good.

Speaker 6 (01:03:03):
That's the best way to say it, right, And we'll
paint Josh's face up like Gene Simmons and preading through
the through the ground.

Speaker 1 (01:03:09):
We'll get them all right, Perre all right, Hey, it's
always good to see you, Tony. Appreciate the time. August
twenty seventh, September first US Nationals. Definitely want to be
there for it. Look for the dodge that Tony Stewart
is running in the top fuel standpoint. Appreciate the time.
It is always good seeing you, mat too. We'll take
a quick break, we'll reset everything. Bob Kravitz joins us.
We'll talk about Anthony Richardson, the Colts and the night practice.

(01:03:30):
We were all along here acquiring company on the fan
from one big start of the next, Tony Stewart into
Bob Kravitz. Bob Kravitz, of course, Bob Kravitz dot com,
where you can read his work. I thought Bob had
one of the you know every once in a while.
And rich Nye is another guy that comes to mind
on this. I have always said that when I was

(01:03:51):
in television and we would be in the scrum where
you're all sitting around, everybody's firing questions, rich Nie is
the guy that more often than not would ask a question,
and I would think, to myself, that's a great question.
I wish I'd thought of that, And Bob Kravitz will
send a tweeter or post and I will think to myself,
it is a great point, and I wish I'd thought
of that, And Bob came up with one to start

(01:04:12):
camp an observation that I think is spot on, and
that is Bob, I thought you made an interesting observation
about the fact that there seems to be this about
face from the Colts on the way they're handling Anthony Richardson.
So if you could go back to your original observation
and then carry that into do you feel they have

(01:04:34):
done the correct about face?

Speaker 8 (01:04:37):
Well, I mean, you know, originally they I mean they
were quick to give Anthony the job after just one
preseason game, and I thought that was probably the late
owner who had a big say in that. Now they're
talking about being patient with him.

Speaker 9 (01:04:58):
In fact, Zack Keefer had as a.

Speaker 8 (01:05:00):
Story in The Athletic I think it ran today about
how they're going to be more patient with Anthony. I
just think it's really important that they commit to whoever
they're going to go with. I think it's going to
be Anthony. I think it should be I think that

(01:05:22):
Jones has got to thoroughly outplay him in the preseason.

Speaker 9 (01:05:26):
We'll learn a lot more after they go to.

Speaker 8 (01:05:28):
Baltimore and start playing some preseason games. But it's clear
that from.

Speaker 9 (01:05:34):
The very start they probably should.

Speaker 8 (01:05:37):
Have made Anthony Waite, you know, for a one year,
given in that year to learn, and you know, there's
a guy with thirteen starts in college, so to think
that he's going to be ready for the big time
is fool hardy.

Speaker 1 (01:05:53):
Do you think, Bob, that Anthony Richardson. I mean, you know,
look hindsight, it's always twenty twenty, right. But with that said,
do you think Anthony Richardson, in terms of wishing that
he could have been given more time, is that because
he needed to more physically tweak himself to play quarterback
or emotionally tweak himself to play quarterback.

Speaker 8 (01:06:16):
I think I think it's more of a mental thing.
I think he learned had to learn how to be
a CEO of an organization as a quarterback. I just
don't think he was ready. I mean thirteen, Yeah, Look,
he's got the physical tools, there's no question. You know,
they've done a lot of work on his footwork, on

(01:06:41):
his vision, everything else. But no, I think it was
more of a mental issue with him be getting ready.
And again after thirteen starts, what do you expect.

Speaker 1 (01:06:56):
Do you think that Anthony Richardson Bob and I guess
it's a two part question. Do you think he truly
understood what was required to be an NFL quarterback? And
do you think he understands it now?

Speaker 8 (01:07:11):
I think he understands it now based on some of
his responses to questions. Again, the Keefer story is quite good.
He talks with Anthony quite a bit. I think he
understands it. You know, he was handed everything like right
away because of his natural his you know, physical talent.

(01:07:35):
I think he understands now, But at the time, no,
he had no earthly clue I think that getting benched
last year was a wake up call, and if it's not,
then they've got bigger problems than we thought.

Speaker 1 (01:07:50):
Bob, I have said Bob Kravitz is our guest. At
the beginning of like when he was signed, I had
this feeling that Daniel Jones was going to be the
Week one starter. Okay, now I'm not saying that I'm
sticking by that, but I believe this and I want
you to tell me if this makes sense. It's what
I've said on the show. If Daniel Jones is starting

(01:08:11):
Week one, it is far more likely that is simply
because Anthony Richardson didn't win the job, not because Daniel
Jones did. Does that make sense?

Speaker 8 (01:08:21):
Yeah, I think I think this is all in It's
all in Anthony's hands at this point. And I think,
you know, for Jones to beat him out, uh, he's
got to be wretched, and so far he hasn't been.
He's been He's been decent the last couple of days

(01:08:41):
and pads. I went to one practice and I read
up on the other on the other ones, he's looked
quite good and he's throwing the ball well on the move.
He's making the intermediate, the layup, the layups he's made.
So I see growth more and more than anything, I

(01:09:05):
see growth and just his approach and his professionalism. I think,
I you know, it was a bad scene for him
last year, but I think that has a chance to
be a real inflection point in his career. If it's not,
then they've got bigger problems than we all thought.

Speaker 1 (01:09:27):
And here's the thing, Bob, and I think it's important
to point this out for people. And look, it's not
like I know him well, that would be totally unfair
of me to say, but I do think that people
should at least understand that while we can talk about
Anthony Richardson in terms of his maturity or his dedication,

(01:09:48):
there is no body of work that I'm aware or
nor any evidence that he's a bad guy, you know
what I mean. I think he might have been an
immature guy. I don't think he's a bad guy.

Speaker 8 (01:09:56):
No, I agree completely. I mean, he's sweetheart of a guy.

Speaker 9 (01:10:01):
I mean, there's there's no question the way he deals
with us, the.

Speaker 8 (01:10:05):
Way he deals with fans, the way he deals with
with teammates. I mean, I think everybody's rooting for him,
nothing against Daniel Jones, you know, seems to be a
you know, fine enough human being. But I think people
are rooting for Anthony because he I think he's just immature.
I mean, I think back to my twenties and my god,

(01:10:29):
you know, I mean to think that at that age
to be given given the sun the moon and be
asked to navigate that at the age of twenty two
twenty three, I couldn't have done it. I'd have been
a disaster. So, you know, I just think when you
when you've only got thirteen games of experience, you know,

(01:10:54):
I mean, you can't expect that the guy is going
to come going to come into the scene, onto the scene,
ready made to go, you know. And it's it's been
a struggle for him clearly, but hopefully hopefully last year.
He hopefully after last year, is his head screwed on?

Speaker 3 (01:11:15):
Right?

Speaker 2 (01:11:15):
Bob?

Speaker 1 (01:11:16):
Do you see also the same growth or the same
tweak that you see from one year to the next
or have seen out of Anthony Richardson?

Speaker 3 (01:11:25):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (01:11:25):
In any way? Have you seen the same in terms
of approach from Shane Steikeen.

Speaker 3 (01:11:33):
Boy, that's a that's a good question.

Speaker 9 (01:11:36):
This is me.

Speaker 8 (01:11:38):
Holding off on an answer because I can't come up
with one, you know, No, I I think it's basically
the same thing with Steichen. Honestly, I mean, what what
do you have in mind there?

Speaker 3 (01:11:51):
What's your thought?

Speaker 2 (01:11:52):
Brother?

Speaker 1 (01:11:52):
I think it's hard to say because he is very
and I'll give Stikeen credit in this regard. He's very
rehearsed in the thing, you know, in the answers that
he gives. He's kind of generic right in that form.
And it's hard to know now whether his approach from
a coaching standpoint is different because we're only seeing you know,
an hour of practice, right, But it does seem like

(01:12:15):
it was the first time, like with Anthony Richardson. And
I'm going to use that not to hyper in on
that subject or that that, but I think he's been
a little bit more transparent in areas that he at
once or expects more out of guys. And I feel
like he was more of a quote players coach when
he first got here.

Speaker 8 (01:12:36):
Yeah, I guess there's some truth to that. I mean,
he's working these guys hard. It's a more physical camp,
which I think will benefit everybody, including the quarterbacks. But
you know, I think that first, I think the first
year there just trying to get Anthony up and running.

(01:12:57):
I think the company petition is really at the center
of what's going on at this camp. And I do think,
you know, now.

Speaker 9 (01:13:07):
With pads, we got a better idea of.

Speaker 8 (01:13:10):
What we're looking at. And I think going to Baltimore
against and the lead team, we'll find out a whole hell.

Speaker 3 (01:13:16):
Of a lot more.

Speaker 1 (01:13:17):
Bob Kravits is our guest. You can read to his
work at Bob Kravitz dot com. Bob, I guess last
thing before we move. I got a couple other things
I want to ask you about, but on the Colts front,
and I've asked this really of everybody we've talked to.
I look at it and I get it. I get
the fact that this is the NFLPA and the collective

(01:13:39):
bargaining agreement and it's all been agreed upon.

Speaker 2 (01:13:41):
I get it.

Speaker 1 (01:13:42):
But is there part of you or does it just
make us old that I'm still and I assume you
are as well, almost incredulous, incredulous to the fact that
you get out there at eleven thirty and you're like,
they're done for the day, and that's it.

Speaker 3 (01:13:53):
I know.

Speaker 8 (01:13:54):
I remember going.

Speaker 9 (01:13:56):
Up to Greeley, Colorado.

Speaker 8 (01:14:00):
For Broncos camp and they would have well over one
hundred players there.

Speaker 2 (01:14:06):
They would do two days.

Speaker 8 (01:14:08):
Guys were dying, I mean not dying, but guys. Yeah,
you know, I mean, you know, back then, drinking water
was a sign of weakness. I mean it was insane,
it was just nuts. But yeah, I mean they they don't.

Speaker 1 (01:14:26):
You know.

Speaker 8 (01:14:26):
I hear a more physical camp and I'm like, how,
you know, I mean, they're still not hitting anybody, really,
I mean no, it's it's uh, it's interesting. It's not
what it used to be. I remember Dan Reeves talking
about how the game had changed and how training camp had.

Speaker 9 (01:14:48):
Made players soft, and uh, you know.

Speaker 8 (01:14:51):
I think that's probably one of the reasons we see
so many injuries early in the season, because guys aren't
aren't physically ready to go.

Speaker 1 (01:14:59):
So, Bob, when I was in college, you know, my
freshman year, I went to University Kansas. Two of my
good buddies were both from Cherry Creek, which you're probably
familiar with. It's a you know, a big school in Denver.
So we go back, Yeah, it's the Carmel. So we
go back to Denver for a weekend. Right, We're hanging
out at my buddy's house and it's like two thirty
in the morning, and one of them gets a brilliant

(01:15:20):
idea that a girl he went to high school with
who's at the University of Northern Colorado in Greeley, Colorado.
He thinks he might have a shot at her, so
we decide to road trip. It's like forty minutes, forty
five minutes, I think. We go to Greeley, Colorado at
like three p fifteen in the morning to hang out
while he goes and tries to like throw a Hail
Mary for this girl he went to high school with.
We get there, we're all excited for him, We're wishing

(01:15:41):
him the best, we're giving him the Godspeed speech. He
walks in and it turns out she's got a new
boyfriend she met at University of Northern Colorado in Greeley, Colorado.
And we turned around and immediately went back. And I'm
thinking that my experience in Greeley, Colorado probably even still
was better than a lot of the guys that were
trying out for the Broncos, right.

Speaker 9 (01:15:57):
Oh, absolutely it was.

Speaker 8 (01:15:59):
It was brutal back in the day. I mean to
a day's every day, every single day they did to
a day injury. I mean, you're at the university exactly.
And let me tell you greely, is it's not typical Colorado.

Speaker 2 (01:16:17):
Correct, it's not beautiful.

Speaker 1 (01:16:18):
Correct, it's it's.

Speaker 8 (01:16:20):
It's not a beautiful filled with beautiful mountain vistas. The
truth of the matter is it kind of thinks Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:16:27):
No, it's it's a fun drive to make back when
a guy just wants to listen to the cure and
like Christopher Cross at four o'clock in the morning, it
needs to be consulted. Real fun times, right, That's that's
a good time. Hey, Bob, what do you make of
before we let you go? Bob Kravitz, our guest, I
just talked to Tony Stewart about it, but I wanted
your opinion as well. I know it's all new news
to all of us. What, if anything, was your reaction

(01:16:49):
to now seeing that the Fox Television Group is a
one third owner of the Penske Entertainment Corporation, which is
the Indianapolis Motor speed Way and IndyCar.

Speaker 8 (01:17:02):
Well, I don't have a lot of deep thoughts on
it because I'm just kind of getting up to speed
like everybody else. But it sounds like a great deal.
I mean it sounds like, you know, like you know
they're going to.

Speaker 9 (01:17:16):
Work well together. You've got your your.

Speaker 8 (01:17:20):
Media you know, lined up to I mean, I think
the contracts to what twenty six or twenty seven, and
it's gonna go quite a bit longer now. I think
it's a good deal for everybody, for Fox, for for Penske.
What did what did Stewart have to say?

Speaker 1 (01:17:43):
Well, Tony was saying that, you know the same thing,
Like he's a promoter, so you know, he's like, I
know what it means to promote races. And the television
partner is going to have a financial stake in it now, right,
it's going to be in their best interest to make
sure as many people know about this as possible. I'll
tell you one of the things, Bob, as I've let
this settle in a little bit. A couple of years ago,

(01:18:03):
we were all asked to submit who we thought would
be a good broadcast or a good title sponsor for
IndyCar before NTT became the sponsor. And at that time,
and this was about eight years ago, and I said,
you know, you're starting to see more live sports and streaming,
and at that time, I was motivated by the fact
that I had seen a New York Jets Buffalo Bills
game was being carried live on Twitter. This was like

(01:18:26):
eight years ago, and I thought about the fact that
IMS Productions is owned by the Speedway, they have television
edit based, they have television cameras, it's a production company.
And now knowing that Fox is getting ready to launch
and thank you to somebody who sent this to me,
but I had forgotten this. The Fox Television group is
getting ready to launch an app that is their version

(01:18:50):
of the one Stop Shopping You know that everything right
here for you, And I think probably knowing that this
means that they have an ownership within IMA Productions, it
is going to allow them to do their own reality
programming to promote the series itself, like you've seen with
Formula one and et cetera. But they now have ownership

(01:19:12):
stake and the group that is putting that all together.
So it makes sense to me that that means that
eventually perhaps all IndyCar events move to an app and
move to streaming, which to people over fifty sounds totally foreign,
and people under thirty it sounds totally normal. And that's
the demo Bob that they've got to go after.

Speaker 8 (01:19:34):
Yeah, I agree completely. Yeah, it's in the media. We've
got to change along with the times, and I think
that that's probably the way they're going to go. I
think it's a good deal for everybody.

Speaker 9 (01:19:51):
I think it's a great deal.

Speaker 8 (01:19:52):
For indiecar and for Penske.

Speaker 1 (01:19:55):
You're going to be out of practice tonight.

Speaker 8 (01:19:57):
I'm thinking about it, actually doing a I'm talking for
a documentary this afternoon on the twenty thirteen Colts Chiefs
comeback game, the forty five forty.

Speaker 1 (01:20:13):
Four that was the Superman game, right.

Speaker 8 (01:20:16):
Andrew Luck Superman games, that's what everybody remembers.

Speaker 9 (01:20:20):
So I actually watched the.

Speaker 8 (01:20:22):
Game again this morning just to you know, get my
memory going. And so I'll probably do that and I'll
probably head on up to practice.

Speaker 9 (01:20:33):
I'll be curious to see if Carly talks because this.

Speaker 8 (01:20:37):
Is when this is when Jim always used to talk.
So I got to find out if she'll be made
available for us.

Speaker 1 (01:20:44):
Listen, if she does talk and you've got a chance
to talk to her, Bob, you can put your bid
in on the house, right.

Speaker 8 (01:20:51):
I see that it's only what twelve million.

Speaker 2 (01:20:54):
That's right?

Speaker 1 (01:20:55):
Yeah, I mean yeah, I got that second mortgage on
your home.

Speaker 8 (01:20:59):
You're good to go, right, Oh, not a problem. I'm
I'm as good as moved in.

Speaker 1 (01:21:05):
I think it's got up. One of the houses he
has has a full ice skating rink in it too,
which is perfect for you.

Speaker 9 (01:21:11):
Right, a full Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:21:12):
He used to ask me.

Speaker 8 (01:21:14):
To come over and be a goaltender for his grandson
and I said thanks, but no thanks because the kid would.

Speaker 3 (01:21:23):
Probably light me up.

Speaker 1 (01:21:24):
You were a goaltender like all the way through, right?

Speaker 2 (01:21:28):
I was?

Speaker 3 (01:21:29):
I was.

Speaker 8 (01:21:29):
I was a goaltender from the very start, and I
played till I was probably in my early fifties. Okay, when, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:21:38):
So let me ask you this before I let you go.
I don't think I've asked you this before. I can't
recall when when I go to hockey games, and this
is going to show my naivete about hockey. And I
really enjoy hockey. I think live hockey is super fun
to watch. It doesn't mean I totally understand everything going
on because I didn't grow up with it, right, But
I see a lot of times where the goalie as

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his team and everything is taking place at the other
end of the ice. Well, grab his stick and bang
it like three times on the ice. Is he what
is that meaning? Is that calling for a shift change?
Is it sending out what exactly is going on? Or
is he just bored?

Speaker 8 (01:22:16):
No, it's usually you bang your stick on the ice
when your team is ending a power play or is shorthanded.
You're letting your bench know that the penalty time is up.
And so yeah, you're just letting them know that the
time is up on the penalty and they need to

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be aware aware of that.

Speaker 1 (01:22:40):
So the goaltender is the goaltender almost like a safety
in football, and the fact that because they're the last
line of defense, they're also in charge of kind of
overseeing some things, very.

Speaker 8 (01:22:49):
Much like a catcher in baseball. I mean, you control
a lot more than you think. You think you're just
sitting there waiting for the next puck to you in
the face. But not necessarily the truth, it's not.

Speaker 9 (01:23:04):
Necessarily the way it goes.

Speaker 3 (01:23:06):
No, you you've got.

Speaker 8 (01:23:07):
You've got to know the game and the ebbs and
flows the game, and uh, yeah, that's what that's all about.

Speaker 2 (01:23:14):
Eddie.

Speaker 1 (01:23:15):
You're a catcher, right, that's right. You're basically the goaltender
of baseball. Exactly see the things we learning this program.
This is what we do. We educate and entertain on
the show. Bob appreciate it as always. All right, all right, buddy, Hey,
Bob Kravitz, our friend Bob Kravitz dot com, where you
can read his work. Speaking of reading work, Zach Kiefer,
the column that he had mentioned about Anthony Richardson very interesting.
Zach set to join us, coming up two o'clock hour

(01:23:37):
here ninety three five and one oh seven five To
the fan, Eddie, are you becoming a fan without admitting it?

Speaker 2 (01:23:44):
No, you could admit it. I just like a couple
of their songs. That's about it.

Speaker 1 (01:23:50):
A couple becomes six, becomes twelve. I have a if
you'd like. I mean, I have an extra bucket hat.

Speaker 2 (01:24:00):
Is big enough? Good question. I didn't say it's a
hula hoop. It's just a bucket hat.

Speaker 1 (01:24:07):
So I want to get back into what I was
just talking about with this announcement with Fox, and what
I'm about to say is speculative, but we were just
in here talking about it. Zach Keith for coming up
just a couple of minutes from now, and what I'm
about to say in large part may sound very nuanced
or yeah, Jake, you know, welcome to twenty twenty five.

Speaker 2 (01:24:32):
Get off your rocker.

Speaker 1 (01:24:33):
But a lot of people don't realize this. When we
go to a race, whether it's the IndyCar Iowa Race,
whether it's IndyCar at Laguneseka, wherever it may be, there's
a there's a tent we call the TV tent inside

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the television compound at the racetrack that has within it
a caterer that you know, because we're there literally from
nine in the morning until like seven o'clock at night,
so they have a caterer there that provides lunch and
you know, a snack, that kind of thing for everybody.

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I don't mean just the people you hear on the microphone.
I mean the camera operators, the cable line, the people
laying down cable lines, the people working in the trucks
that are directors and producers and creating the graphics you
see on television, all of it, okay, and the radio
side of it as well. Our engineer Rick Evans, are

(01:25:34):
on site engineer that's putting everything together. Everybody's in this
hanging out in the same area during rain delays, et cetera.

Speaker 2 (01:25:43):
And what do you do during rain delays? Jake? We
play games. We play tic tac toe.

Speaker 1 (01:25:47):
That is a great question. Try to nap read shoot
the ball, give hypothetical questions.

Speaker 2 (01:25:54):
Now shoot the bowl. What does that mean?

Speaker 1 (01:25:57):
They literally bring a large steer with horns by and
then everybody gets no, just hang it out, chewing the cud.

Speaker 3 (01:26:05):
Right.

Speaker 1 (01:26:05):
So all of those folks, when people ask me, they're like,
how's it going to look different now? With Fox versus NBC,
versus versus versus ESPN, ABC. The vast majority of the
behind the scenes folks putting that all together are the
same because they are contracted out via IMS Productions. And

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so you have right across the street from the speedway
a television production company and a very large sports television
production company that so, to put it in these terms,
it is a bakery that is putting together baked goods

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that then Kroger sells some of them, and Schnooks sells
some of them, and CBS sells some of them. So
IMS Productions is a television production company right across from
the Indianapolis Motor Speedway that's in the same corporate building
as IndyCar, and that production house has very talented editors, videographers,

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all of it to put together things like documentaries, daily shows,
race recaps. A lot of what you see on IndyCar
dot com is done by IMS Productions. The broadcast that
you see for the Professional bull Riders Association is done
by IMS Productions. And as I mentioned at one time,
many of the visiting teams when they would come into town,

(01:27:45):
the Boston Celtics, the whatever, their production crews would be
facilitated and their broadcast would be facilitated by IMS Productions.
So I think that Fox. I don't know this merely
conjecture on my behalf, but it makes sense. I think

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that Fox like every network now, I mean you see it,
Paramount has and I think Paramount is CBS. So if
you have the Paramount app, you're able to watch like
any show that's ever been on CBS. People love it. Right,
one of the years, during the Super Bowl, every third
ad was for Paramount and it was like, this is
the best NBC has had Peacock, which you go on

(01:28:28):
that and you're seeing all this NBC programming. Obviously, Amazon
has Prime, Apple TV has out you know, and so
all of the networks are conditioning and getting ready for
the fact that you want to move your real estate
into an area that you entirely control. So if Fox

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is getting ready to launch an all inclusive Fox app,
maybe they already have it that has everything on it.
So you can go on there and you can watch
the Simpson and then you can watch old episodes of
you know, the X Files, and you can also watch
this week's IndyCar race on Fox, or you can watch

(01:29:10):
the NFL on Fox, all on this app. And so
my assumption is that Fox looked at it and said,
if we need content for our app, and we need
sports content for our app, and we already are invested
in IndyCar in terms of broadcasting their races. So what
we can do is by moving everything onto an app,

(01:29:33):
we can actually in doing that, be it subscription fees
or whatever else, we can kind of cut out middlemen
in terms of the dollars in the revenue and the generation.
So let's condition our viewers towards going there to find
their IndyCar stuff, and let's entice them by because we
have a production company now that we have one third

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ownership in, let's go ahead and put together shows like
you saw of Drive to survive that lifted Formula one
into a different stratosphere in terms of the American conscience.
So now, in that regard, it is entirely possible that
Fox is saying hey by buying one third of the

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Penske Entertainment Group, which owns the Indianapolis Motor Speedway and
the IndyCar Series and IMS productions, even though Fox already
had their own production stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:30:23):
I get it.

Speaker 1 (01:30:24):
But you now have a turnkey, self sufficient division of
people that can immediately give you programming and put everything
in funnel it into that app and continue to grow
that brand. And I think it's entirely possible. That's what
this is all about. I don't know that's what's going
to happen, but I would guess it would not surprise

(01:30:45):
me at all if and that sounds crazy, if I
would have told you, and I can tell you, because
when I suggested the Amazon thing several years ago, I mean,
there definitely was the question of like, are people really
going to go like on an app to watch sports?

Speaker 2 (01:30:59):
But look at it.

Speaker 1 (01:30:59):
Now. You already have NASCAR races on Prime, you have
Major League Baseball on Apple TV. And so if I
were to tell you, and I don't know this. I
want to be very clear, I don't know this. I'm
strictly prognosticating. But if I were to tell you that
the twenty twenty nine IndyCar season, if not sooner, that

(01:31:20):
the entire season would be on the Fox Indie app
and leading up to that race. Hey, Indy Cars racing
this week at Laguna Seca on Wednesday. I'm gonna watch
build up to Laguna and it's going to show the
inside the bus with Alex Poulo from last week and
getting ready for Laguna and there's here's here's video of

(01:31:40):
Renus VK and his simulator at his home in Florida
getting ready for Laguna Seca and oh wow, like Kyle
Kirkwood and Connor Daily, like did you see what they
were saying? Like and they're showing it on this app
leading up to the race, just like you've seen in
other sports. But you do that on that app and
then that race, the qualifying sessions, the practice sessions, and

(01:32:03):
the race are on let's say a Fox Indie app
and then probably the Indy five hundred stays with that
as well as on network television. But I would think
that that is a big motivation in this, and if
you are the Penske Entertainment Group, I also understand it
because you're getting capital upfront to continue to bolster and
promote your series. So that's how I would see that

(01:32:27):
now that i've and again I apologize that I'm a
slow learner, but when this news came out this morning,
I was kind of out of commission, and then I
came in here and looked at that, and then over
the course of the show and especially talking to Tony
Stewart and whatever else, it just started jogging in my
mind of Okay, this is probably what this all means.
I could be totally wrong on That wouldn't be the

(01:32:48):
first time the third I was wrong about something in
nineteen seventy eight, and then once in nineteen eighty six.

Speaker 2 (01:32:54):
Before we go to break, Jacob shout out to Roy
Hibbert in the chat, not that he's not actually Roy
Hibbert but engaged now proposed to his girlfriend for said
they we've been together for a while.

Speaker 1 (01:33:06):
So how long is a while?

Speaker 2 (01:33:07):
I don't know. He didn't specifically say, but he's one
of the regulars that's in the company break room. Do
we know her?

Speaker 1 (01:33:14):
Don't know his or her name. I think we want
to keep that confidential. So this guy's name is not
really Roy Hibbert. No, I mean, in other words, it
could be that his name is Roy Hbbert. He's just
not former pacer Roy Hibbert. Correct, So this is not
Roy Hibbert. His name is not really his birth name
is not Roy Hibbert. That is a pseudonym that he
goes by in our chat room. Right that is correct?

Speaker 2 (01:33:33):
Yeah? Okay, but congrats to him.

Speaker 1 (01:33:35):
You know what, all I know is this, and I'm
just going on conjecture as well. But if his name
is Roy Hibbert and I congratulations, congratulate him on the engagement,
but he needs to keep his fiance away from the
pseudonym of Paul.

Speaker 2 (01:33:46):
George on the chat right.

Speaker 1 (01:33:48):
Oh okay, that was a rumor, it was never that
was never actually true. Congratulations. Air quotes Roy Hibbert on
the engagement. Much congratulations, many congratulations, Zachki Fernack.

Speaker 2 (01:34:00):
Is that right? That is correct?

Speaker 1 (01:34:01):
Zak Keifer athletic interesting article. Anthony richardson next great song
one of the best for Eddie. I'm literally probably the
only person on planet Earth that considers Our House by
Madness one of the great songs of all time. But
man I love it. Colts practicing tonight Grand Park in Westfield.

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Zach Kiefer is still a go to when it comes
to the Colts, despite the fact that his responsibilities go
to all teams within the National Football League and his
writing with the Athletic But he did have a very
interesting piece recently about Anthony Richardson and he. But that being,
Zach joins us on the program. Now, Zach, how are you.

Speaker 3 (01:34:45):
I'm good, Jake, how are you doing?

Speaker 1 (01:34:47):
I can't complain, man, you know, it's it's the pullar
vortex outside. I don't know if you noticed that. It's
like seventy It's dropped sixty two degrees in two days.
So that's good, right, Jake.

Speaker 5 (01:34:55):
I'm in Ashburn, Virginia right now, so at least it's
not ninety five degrees like it was what Tuesday when
I was in Westfield.

Speaker 1 (01:35:01):
Okay, now, hold on now before we let me guess this. Yeah,
the other day in Westfield, by the way, one hundred
and twenty one degrees a new record. Okay, So Ashbourn, Virginia.
Don't tell me because I like guessing games. Are you
there on an NFL assignment?

Speaker 2 (01:35:14):
Zach?

Speaker 3 (01:35:16):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (01:35:16):
Okay, So Are you there for a training camp? Yes, okay,
I'm going to guess that Ashburn, Virginia. There would be
two that jump out immediately as possibilities, but I'll go
with the obvious and say the Washington commanders.

Speaker 3 (01:35:30):
Yes, sir, okay, you're correct.

Speaker 1 (01:35:32):
How far is that from DC?

Speaker 3 (01:35:35):
Man?

Speaker 5 (01:35:35):
It's it's a pain. Like I used to complain about
the drive up to Anderson for colts camp. This was
like forty five minutes this morning. I'm staying right by
Reagan in downtown Arlington, and to get out to Ashburn
where the team practices, it was like forty five minutes.
And Dan Quinn and the head coach spoke at seven
thirty this morning, so I don't mind the early morning,
but it was an early morning.

Speaker 2 (01:35:56):
Yeah, that's early.

Speaker 1 (01:35:57):
Listen. I remember covering the RAMS and being in mc home, Illinois,
and uh, to get there you had to actually take
a left at Neptune. I mean it was you know
what I mean, it was like where in the world
are we?

Speaker 5 (01:36:07):
Yeah, I've had that thought a lot lately.

Speaker 1 (01:36:09):
So let's get to this in terms of your article
with Anthony Richardson, And you know, I thought it was
interesting because there has been so much speculation about the
workouts that he's done, who he has worked out with,
and where things stand with the Indianapolis Colts. You were
around him, you spent time around him, Zach, what did

(01:36:30):
you learn?

Speaker 3 (01:36:33):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (01:36:33):
I came away more impressed than I thought I would be,
And I don't want to get ahead of myself by
any means, because nothing really matters right now, right like
anything they say, it doesn't matter what Anythony Richardson.

Speaker 3 (01:36:44):
Does on the field this season.

Speaker 5 (01:36:45):
If he does end up being the starter of that's
what matters. But you know, I asked him, what when
you walked off the field after the last game of
last season, which was a chaotic, disappointing season for him.
We don't need to relive that, you know what you
tell yourself? And he said that I can't be slacky anymore.
And that gave me pause because if you didn't get

(01:37:06):
it in year two, what's going to change? And then
he explained it and I walked away impressed because of
the second part of that answer. And look, if the
light doesn't come on this year. The surprising part to
me is that Chris Ballad is willing to wait until
year four. They're They're not going to jump the gun
on this. He doesn't want Anthony Richardson going to a
different team in the future and flourishing with that team.

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So the Colts are going to be patient. But with
Anthony Richardson, he talked a lot about his footwork. Then
he talked about a lot about accountability and how even
if it's not his fault that something went wrong, it
is his fault that something went wrong. That's just what
quarterbacks have to accept with that position. So for me,
I'm not a guy that's around Anthony Richardson every day
like the beat writers. But I will say this, I've

(01:37:50):
never walked away from a conversation more convinced. It's July
thirty and everyone's going to say everything rosy right now,
And what really matters is what they do on the field.

Speaker 1 (01:38:00):
Do you say get it do you mean getting it
mentally or getting it physically?

Speaker 5 (01:38:08):
He said last year he knew the offense. He said
this year he's starting to master the offense. So there's that, right,
and guys learn at different clips. I'm working on this
big quarterback project about why young quarterbacks struggle and so
many and we're not talking about the Peyton Manings of
the World and Andrew Lux and et cetera. But Bruce
Arians told me that young quarterbacks takes three years to

(01:38:31):
learn the NFL offenses that they're given, like three years,
like this is his third year. And the other reality
is they screwed this up. The Colts did. They screwed
this up. Part of this is on the player, but
a lot of this is on the organization. They rushed
him onto the field and almost the worst thing that
happened was that he played well those first couple of
games as a rookie, right, he played pretty well. They

(01:38:53):
had that Rams come back, they beat the Texans by
double vigits, Like, he played really well before he got hurt.
Then they signed jonathancause they thought they had the quarterback
in place. But here's what happened. Richardson got hurt. And
when you're hurt, you're not around the team. And when
you're not around the team, as a young quarterback, you
don't build those daily habits that you need to build
as a young quarterback. Like a lot of quarterbacks told

(01:39:15):
me this over the years, like you need to know
what a Monday looks like, what a Tuesday looks like,
Richardson did not know that. And again I'm not excusing him,
like this is on him. He needs to figure this
stuff out. But what they should have done is they
should have started Gardner Minshew, which he ended up playing. Anyway,
they should have started Minshew. They should have had Richardson
become his shadow. He would have learned what the work
week looks like, and then they could have maybe started

(01:39:35):
him in year two or year three. But they didn't,
and everything was set back. Right, so last year he
becomes the starter.

Speaker 3 (01:39:42):
It's his team.

Speaker 5 (01:39:43):
He plays well, he plays poorly, but he doesn't have
those habits. He doesn't have a work week down. And
that really blew up in their face because he wasn't
preparing the right way. The team was getting frustrated, some
players were getting frustrated, and so they benched it. And
so almost this year it feels like they're restarting the
whole cycle.

Speaker 1 (01:40:00):
Can you think that or when you say that the
Colts start, you know, I think we all can say
they started him too early, right? Do you believe that
the greater damage there was giving him a false entitlement
or was it letting his confidence get rattled, Because then
it didn't go, well, I.

Speaker 5 (01:40:20):
Don't think he's a guy who loses confidence. I mean,
with you, if you were built like that. And these
are some of the things that Anthony Richardson has said.
And again I don't want to sound like everybody else here,
but he's a good kid, Like he's a genuinely good kid.
And I have conversations with plenty of athletes where I
walk away and I'm like, eh, I don't really like
that guy. I like Athy Richardson. He's a good kid,

(01:40:42):
he's respectful, he seems to get it. But he said
early on after his first year, like the NFL is
not that hard. It's not that much harder than college.
That's complete bs. It is absolutely that hard. And last
year it was the tap out thing. He said he
was tired, and maybe he was, but the optics of that,
you just have to know with the starting quarterback that
you just don't say that. You just don't say it

(01:41:02):
as a podium that's going to follow him for a
while when you tap out of a game because you're
tired a divisional opponent on the road in a close game.
So I just think he's green, he's just naive to this,
and I think more time, learning the system, learning the process,
learning the building, learning the job, like literally learning the
job would have benefited him a little bit more. But again,

(01:41:23):
here we are, and it's going to be fascinating to
see if he can strain together some consistency because when
I asked Daniel Jones, like, you know what did Shane said,
can tell you about what is going to win this job?
And Daniel Jones is not the most interesting quote in
the world, but he said, look, the coaches told us
they're going to go with the guy they can trust.
So as of right now, based on the body of

(01:41:44):
evidence in the past, you would think that would be
Daniel Jones. The day I was at cant Richardson looked
a little bit better. It's early August, right, we got
a long way to go. But I wonder how this
shakes out, because that's the biggest gap that Anthony Richardson
has to clear, has to close, right He has to
show that he can be way more consistent, because right
now I can go based on the body of work
that both have produced in the NFL, Jones hasn't beat

(01:42:07):
in that category.

Speaker 1 (01:42:08):
You know, Zach, Let's be real here, Zach, if you
grate it on the curve of me being double the age.
I am pretty much built like that, don't you think,
you know, relatively, I didn't say it, you know, I mean,
come on, you know, I mean like I got I
got news for you. I mean, we're looking at, you know,
over a half century here this kind of sculpting. You know,
come on, I'm the ar of the radio world. Not really.

(01:42:30):
I mean, you see J and B. Now he's in
great shape, Zach Keith for joining us, for what's happening.

Speaker 5 (01:42:36):
He is in great shape, by the way.

Speaker 3 (01:42:37):
I know.

Speaker 1 (01:42:38):
I'm telling you, man, Premier weight loss. They hooked him
up and they do the whole doctor deal. I mean,
he looks great.

Speaker 5 (01:42:43):
I haven't seen you. I haven't seen you running through
mnting Kessler.

Speaker 3 (01:42:45):
Man, what you been.

Speaker 1 (01:42:47):
I've been busy this time of year.

Speaker 2 (01:42:49):
I'm not.

Speaker 1 (01:42:49):
I never Here's the thing. I never run outside though, right,
I'm an indoor runner. But this time of year, because
I'm traveling all over the place doing racing stuff, it's
the winner time, and I only run in the winner
in the gym. Truth be told to keep my energy
level up. That has nothing to do with the vanity
of looking the.

Speaker 5 (01:43:02):
Sexy you know you don't have to try when when
if that guy give him.

Speaker 1 (01:43:07):
That's exactly right, that's exactly right.

Speaker 2 (01:43:09):
Zach.

Speaker 1 (01:43:10):
You had mentioned that you think the Colts have some
regret over the way they handled Richardson. Do you just
simply mean in handing him the keys too early?

Speaker 5 (01:43:18):
Yeah, And those are those are not my opinions, those
are those are facts. That's what Chris Valler gave me
explicitly in its stage of article. He said, Look, well
he just didn't have the understanding professionally of how to
play and then how to prepare. It's just it's black
and white.

Speaker 3 (01:43:34):
They rushed him out there too quickly.

Speaker 5 (01:43:36):
And look, it's easy to fall through the trappings of talent, right,
Like Jim Mersey was one of the people in the
building saying he needs to play. And I understand the
argument at the time, right, he hadn't played very much
in college. He needed to play. And I'm not trying
to plug this story again, but I'm working on a
big quarterback story about the bad habits you can develop
if you play too soon. And Alex Smith was unbelievable

(01:43:57):
in my conversations with him, and he says the thing
I look for is is footwork. Like you could see
it last season with Caleb Williams. He was being sped up.
His feet were a mess. He was indecisive, and then
he would just miss easy checkdowns. And how many easy
checkdowns does Anthony Richardson miss. That's one of the first
things that Anthony Richardson mentioned to me when he asked him, like,
what he was working on was his base, was his

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feet And I know this is boring technical quarterback stuff,
but I find it fascinating. He said, Look like, if
I get my base nice and wide, then I know
where the ball is going to go. I have more
control over the ball. And he says, if I don't,
if my feet narrow, I missed. And everybody out there
listening knows what he means by miss because he misses high.

Speaker 3 (01:44:39):
That's his miss.

Speaker 5 (01:44:41):
It's been way too frequent, a couple of weeks, a
couple of years into his career, and you know those
are the little thing. So if you're out the camp
and you see the quarterbacks warming up on the side,
you will see Anthony Richardson repping that, repping his bass,
trying to widen his stands. But again, you know another
thing I talked to Jim Bob Cooter, the opposive coordinator,
about is like, can a quarterback develop touch? So many

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quarterbacks over the year just had it right. You can practice.
But the thing is that he said that was really
fascinating was a lot of guys will get through high
school and college and get a lot of attention and
win a lot of games because of their arms strength. Right,
Richardson's part of that. Right, he can run all over
the field. We know that he can throw it a mile,
we know that. But you get to this league and

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the windows are smaller and you need to touch right.
You need those intermediate throws, you need to hit those
short ropes, the layups, the lack of a better phrase,
and that's where he's got to get better at. So
that's going to come down to the fundamentals and everything
we've seen so far. I mean, on target percentage last
year was fifty eight percent. Fifty eight was by far

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the lowest in the league. I mean, Jones is usually
at seventy percent. One year with the Giants, he was
at eighty one. So that's that's the gap I was
talking about. She's trying to narrow. You know, he's trying
to simplify things, widen his base to get better at
those types of throws. But that's going to be the
difference in this when we watch the preseason game.

Speaker 1 (01:46:02):
Zach, since you have left, Zach Keeper is our guest.
With the Athletic, you were, you know, obviously a Colts
feature and beat writer during your time here at both
The Indie Star and then the Athletic, and you were
esoteric to Indianapolis to the Colts. You now are an
NFL writer where you are going around and doing features,

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whether it be on a player or a particular team
or a camp. You know, I know you've done it
in Miami. You're now in Washington. So when you look
around at different franchises, and I know I've asked you
this before, but it's worth revisiting because you've got another
year under your belt of looking at the league in
a much bigger lens. When you do that, it is

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illuminated to you the areas where the Colts are different
than other franchises, where.

Speaker 5 (01:46:53):
It's much more of a family business. Right Like that
jumps out at me. And I don't just say that
because of recent events, but the cults are in erthsay
family business, and you feel that and it feels small
in a good way, if that makes sense. It feels
like they're a little pocket of the training camp world

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at that farm up in Westfield, and I bounced around
to I don't know, fifteen or twenty training camps over
the last couple of years, and all of them are
sort of their own adventure, right in terms of getting
there and parking and getting through the fans and getting
to the media area and watching practice. All of that
kind of runs right parallel, right, They're all kind of
the same. But the Colt stock is refreshing, not because

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I know a lot of people, but because it is
the cults kind of ways. It feels smaller, it feels simpler,
it feels unnecessarily complicated, and I kind of appreciate that
more now that I've ventured out. I cannot tell you
how good of a cult, like, how good to set
up the Colts have a training camp for the fans,
for the media, for everybody. It is just such a

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seamless operation that is not to be overlooked. And then again,
you know, like there are times when I bounce around
the legue and go to a bunch of stadiums and
come back to Lucas Sayler, and I'm like, this is
just an absolutely gorgeous stadium. And I hope I didn't
take for granted going there every Sunday for however many years.
But it's little things. It's players, it's the fact that

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the cults are more accountable. And by that, I mean
Chris Baler comes out and says, I screwed it up.
That's not something you hear in every city. And he
has to a degree. Jim Mersey, when he was alive,
would come out and own it, and he would talk
to the fans. You always knew where he stood. You
always knew where he stood right or wrong, and you
never questioned whether he was in this to win like
some owners are just kind of in this for the paychecks.

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Jim Rsay desperately wanted to win. And so there's little
things like that that I got accustomed to covering the
Colts that are not the same when you bounce around
and venture across the league. And I do appreciate those
things more now in my spot that I'm currently at.

Speaker 1 (01:48:54):
What franchise did you gain a lot of respect for
not named Indianapolis? For maybe some of the same reasons.

Speaker 5 (01:49:05):
Good question, Detroit is my answer. And I went there
last year and spent a week when they were a
couple of weeks away from the playoffs, and you know
how you just go through a locker room. I always
felt like the locker room was the one place that
teams can't lie. It's the one place with a pr
BS won't sit through. Right, Like I can go talk

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to players, I can ask them questions, I can talk
to coaches, and at the podium you can hear one
thing and it's whatever. But like when you go to
a locker room, like the locker room's real. And I
walked out of there after a week and I felt
like I got it, Like I get why they believe
in Dan Campbell. He might be cheesy at the podium,
but they freaking love that guy. And the players showed
me why. They told me stories that made me understand that.

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And it was really cool because not that long ago
they were an absolute dunster fire and they did it
the right way, and they did it when nobody believed
they could do it, and there was no shortcut and
there was no secret, and there was no huge free
agent signing that changed everything. I mean, they traded for
Jared Goff and everyone thought he was going to last
a year and a half and be run out of town,
and they became one of the best teams in the league.

Speaker 3 (01:50:10):
And kind of seeing how they did it.

Speaker 5 (01:50:11):
And talking to all their players was like, this is
this is literally the coolest thing about football was being
in that locker room and understanding why they did it.
And then conversely, you know, last year, James Boyd, my
colleague and I wrote a story about why the Colts
were falling apart again, and it was a very, very
different locker room. There was a lot of players that
didn't believe in the direction of the team, that were

(01:50:31):
questioning some of the decisions that were made, and that
were tired of losing. And the quote that we got
from an anonymous player literally said, if you look around
the league at the teams that win, like the Chiefs
and the Lions, you can see why they win. So
it's not that difficult to tell why some teams win
and why some teams don't.

Speaker 1 (01:50:51):
Do you think the Colts those same players last year
that said, and I'm paraphrasing, this is a franchise with
no direction. Do you believe that they now feel that
direction is there.

Speaker 5 (01:51:04):
Well it's July thirty, first, Jake. Everybody believes they're in
the right direction. Look around the league. Every single quote
you're going to read is a player is in the
best shape of his life, the coach believes in everything.

Speaker 1 (01:51:15):
Guys are flying around making plays.

Speaker 5 (01:51:16):
Right, It's yeah, I just tune it out. But to
answer your question, everything's going to come down to the quarterback.
This is a good roster, it's a pretty good team.
They could win the division. Not a great division, they
could absolutely win the division. It's going to come down
to if they get consistent quarterback play. And I am
still vious on that front.

Speaker 1 (01:51:37):
Okay, So with that, and I know we gotta let
you run here in a minute, Zach, But when you
talk about exactly that, the Colts, in your opinion, the
Colts ceiling is what even if they're to win the
division there, their ceiling is is what record and like
what slot, like like let's say a year from now

(01:51:57):
they're drafting where.

Speaker 5 (01:52:01):
Yeah, I mean, like it's if everything goes right, there's
still like the sixth best team in the conference, right right,
Like I mean, I just can't the city, Yeah, I
mean Denver has a really really good defense, and they
have the guy at quarterback. And when you don't have
the guy at quarterback, there's a ceiling. And there's a
ceiling with Daniel Jones, and that's why the Giants decided

(01:52:22):
to move on from him. And I think that's the
tantalizing things for the fan base right now, right like,
where does the fan base want this quarterback competition to go?

Speaker 3 (01:52:29):
Right?

Speaker 5 (01:52:30):
They are desperate for Anthony richards to figure it out
because his ceiling is so much higher. I don't know
if that happens. I don't know if it happens in
a year. But with Daniel Jones, I think that's a
guy that coaches trust a little bit more. I mean,
the Coats were not a bad team last year. They
went eight to nine, and if they wouldn't have turned
the ball over so many times, and Richardson was a
part of a lot of that, they probably win a

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couple of more of those games and they're probably playing
in a playoff game. So it just depends on what
they want. But you know, the options are there. Now
is the time to dream, right because it's August and
and and nothing has you know, no one's lost the
game yet. But I just can't see them leap frogging
any teams in in the AFC that are really really good,
with the exception of maybe Houston, Like I think they

(01:53:12):
can sneak past Houston, but again, I need to see
I need to see real consistent quarters in play.

Speaker 1 (01:53:18):
Zach, I hate saying this, but I'll say it again.
I've said it on the show. They can win the division.
You are correct, but the AFC South is the junk
drawer of divisions, right, It's the division. You open it
up and there's like a roll of scotch tape that's
been there forever, you know, a bottle opener, a cassette
tape you forgot about, and you know what I mean.

Speaker 5 (01:53:40):
Yeah, does that matter to them? You know, like, of
course they'll take it and run with it because I've
never done.

Speaker 3 (01:53:47):
It under this TM.

Speaker 1 (01:53:49):
Yeah that's true, all right, Zach. Well let you get now.
You said Ashburn, Virginia.

Speaker 2 (01:53:53):
Is that right?

Speaker 3 (01:53:54):
Yes, sir?

Speaker 5 (01:53:55):
Heading to Tampa soon?

Speaker 1 (01:53:57):
Well, enjoy Tampa. It'll be like it was here yesterday
and then that'll be sixty five the next day, all right, Zack,
appreciate it as always. Zach Keifer from the athletic.

Speaker 3 (01:54:05):
You're the best.

Speaker 1 (01:54:05):
Thanks, Jake, appreciate it. Zach Keiper joining us on the program.
You know he mentioned Jared Goff. I think a fascinating
documentary or article can be done about Jared Goff. I
have the utmost respect. I don't know anything about Jared
Goff other than this. He was another Think about this,
just think about this. He was the number one selection

(01:54:28):
in the NFL draft. He was born and raised, to
my knowledge, in California. He played collegiately in California. He
gets drafted by the Rams in Los Angeles. He's living
that La life. Baby, He's got a girlfriend that's a
Sports Illustrated swimsuit model. He's the quarterback of the Rams.

(01:54:51):
They go to the Super Bowl. So not only is
his name in lights, but his name is also in
the starting aspect of the Super Bowl. And he goes
into that Super Bowl and he looks like he's never
seen a defense before, and he has a terrible game.
And that happens. Tony Easton started a Super Bowl and
didn't complete a pass. It happens right, Peyton Manning started

(01:55:12):
a Super Bowl and had the opening snap go nine
feet over his head and an avalanche came. It happens, said,
the best of the best and the most mediocre, the
most mediocre. But after all that happened, Jared Goff, who
was born and raised in California, played in LA played
for the Rams, took him to the Super Bowl. All
of it gets traded to literally the Siberia of the NFL,

(01:55:36):
the most lowly of franchises, in the worst possible weather
and a place that has been literally the laughing stock
of the NFL, and in a city that is struggling
itself to find its old identity, and a lot of quarterbacks,
a lot of players in that situation, in any sport
would have folded up tent and been like, I'm good

(01:55:56):
and they were terrible when he got there, terrible. And
that dude had two choices to get busy living or
get busy dying, and he chose the positive root. And
look where they are and will they go to the
Super Bowl? I don't know. Will they win the Super Bowl?
I don't know, but I know that the Lions are

(01:56:19):
on the right track they've been. You know, last year
was a heartbreak for them, but their offense is outstanding,
and you know they they are now one of the
top teams in the league. And I got to give
that guy. I'm happy for the dude. I don't know
him at all. And when I saw the video of
his girlfriend celebrating their first win after like twelve straight

(01:56:39):
losses in Detroit and she was doing a swimsuit model
the photo shoot on some island somewhere, and they showed
her jumping up and down, you know, I was like, Okay,
so maybe I shouldn't feel totally.

Speaker 2 (01:56:49):
Sorry for him, but I'm impressed with it.

Speaker 1 (01:56:51):
I just think I just think it's a great story
and I think it's one that if they do go
to the super Bowl, you've got to be happy about it.
And I just said, get busy living. Speaking of live
that is actually coming to Indianapolis, I'm talking about professional golf,
and one that obviously from the time that it began

(01:57:12):
was you know, there was a level of polarization one
of the words I use a lot. But some of
the big names in golf are going to be here.
They're going to be here up in Westfield and we
will talk to one of the great golf personalities who
has been an analyst for Live Golf, and we'll do
it next I will admit to the fact that when
it comes to live Golf, I'm pretty naive about it.

(01:57:34):
And I don't think that you tell me, Eddie, is
that irresponsible of me? Or do you think I mean,
obviously I know golf and I know about the You know,
what's fascinating is that when Live was first announced, there
was this, you know, a lot of question about it,

(01:57:54):
and then there was the discussion that it was all
going to unify in general. And what I do know
is that Live Golf is going to be here in
Westfield as a matter of fact, Chatham Hills coming up
on August fifteenth through the seventeenth. And you have a
team aspect to it, you have like individual championship aspect

(01:58:14):
to it. There is a lot that goes into it.
And David Ferdie, who is of course one of the
synonymous personalities with the game of golf and media coverage
of it in particular, joins us now on the guest
line to talk about exactly that August fifteenth through seventeenth
here in Central Indiana. David, it's a pleasure. How are you.

Speaker 3 (01:58:34):
I'm fine, Jod, Thanks for having me.

Speaker 1 (01:58:37):
You know, I'm going to begin with this and I
will say this with almost apologetically, okay, and that is
that you know, obviously I know of and I was
just mentioning with Live Golf and from the time of
its inception to now the evolution of it, and in particular,
you know, there was so much that was made about

(01:58:57):
the golfers that went over to it at that time.
Then there was the discussion that it was all going
to unify and the the differing aspects of it from
the typical and traditional PGA tour. So can you explain
to me, and I apologize for it that way, but
just kind of get me up to speed on everything
it's going to be taking place out at Chatham Hills.

Speaker 3 (01:59:20):
Well, you know, first of all, I woke up this
morning and the first thing we came to mind was
a pork tenderloine sandwich. Why would that faith?

Speaker 1 (01:59:33):
Well, because you're coming to Indiana or the State Fair
starts tomorrow, one of those two, does it.

Speaker 3 (01:59:39):
It's the one thing that I remember about it, you know.
But no, to answer your question, you know, we were
just a different product. It's a different league from the
PGA Tour or the VP work or or anything that's
ever been done. It was a dream of Greg Norman
for many years, you know, the meg Gulf More Globe,

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and that's what we've done. And we've got the team aspects,
you know, where it's forced course to count over three runs,
which means that even if the player isn't uh, you know,
involved in the individual championship, you know, which we'll we'll
cry on our season long individual champion in Indianapolis, his
team score matters, you know, So even if the player

(02:00:22):
hasn't played well the first couple of days, he can
still uh. And we've seen it over and over again,
you know, players that haven't played particularly well the first
day or two, you know, come in at the end
and really make a difference in that team contest, you know.
So I mean that's the main difference, uh, you know
between your ordinary golf tournament and the leg golf league

(02:00:45):
is the team aspect to it. And the fact that
we are only three runs, we're quicker, we have the
shotguns start, everybody's on the golf course at the same time,
you know, and it's it's just a different experience. Shape.

Speaker 1 (02:00:57):
By the way, do you we can get you a
Port Tenorland sandwich, I mean a bread and tenderloin is
the way to go if you're winning Rome, right, David, Winning.

Speaker 3 (02:01:04):
Rome, Absolutely, that's what I've been thinking of.

Speaker 2 (02:01:07):
I like that. I like it.

Speaker 1 (02:01:09):
Uh so, David in terms of that championship, by the way,
and I do know this. I mean you're talking big
names of big stars here, right, because the Chambo, John Ram, Yeah,
you know, Joaquin Neman. I think those are those that
are in contention for the championship, correct.

Speaker 3 (02:01:23):
Yeah, that's right. We've got Joaquin Neiman who has just
played out of his mind this season. He's won five times,
but he has an extraordinary season. And whenever he hasn't
played well, he scored virtually no points. For any time
he plays well, he just wins. And uh, you know,

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we got John Rahm right there behind him fighting De Shambo.
They also have a mathematical chance. It's going to take
something special from from Ram or Deshambo to get past
Joaquin Neiman this year though, that's for sure.

Speaker 1 (02:01:58):
You know, golf is such a fascinating game, David, because
of the fact that it is at least and I'm
talking about for the Weekend Warrior, right, I Mean, these
guys are the top of the game. I understand that.
But for the average person, it is such a mental game,
and you played it. I'm curious on a professional level,

(02:02:20):
and in particular when you're going at this aspect where
you're kind of allowed to reset if you will, what
is the mental aspect at this level of golf? Does
it stay in guys' heads after a bad shot or
a bad round like it does the guy that's playing,
you know, once every three weeks with his buddies.

Speaker 3 (02:02:41):
Well, I think it was Marlene and Jatrix says, you know,
all you need for a happy life is good health
and a bad memory. And it really helps and golf
to have, you know, a short memory, you know, after
that bad shot or that bad hole, to be able
to put it behind you. And it's one of the
things you know that makes so it just it's even

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you know, the eighteen twenty four handicapper can go out
there and hit a shot that John Ram might hit,
you know, around the greens grand He's not going to
hit it so far up the tee. But you know,
it's a game that everybody can play. There's the pro
am aspect to it as well, where you can actually
play with the best players in the world.

Speaker 8 (02:03:21):
You know.

Speaker 3 (02:03:21):
So it's a game that captures people. You know, it's
almost it's like a drug, and that you know, you
get one head of it for the rom you can
be hooked for life. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:03:33):
I mean I think every and listen, I'm a terrible golfer, David, right,
but even I every once in a while, and I
have not been golfing long, but every once in a
while you get that shot where you're like, Okay, I
get it now.

Speaker 3 (02:03:44):
Yeah you know what I mean, yeah, exactly, yeah, and
you think why can't I do that all the time? Right?

Speaker 1 (02:03:49):
And then I also have a shot where I think
to myself, why I need to go back to basketball?

Speaker 3 (02:03:52):
Right? Yeah, well I'm at that stage myself. No.

Speaker 1 (02:03:58):
David Fardy is our guest. By the way, is fifteenth
through the seventeenth Live Golf will be at Chatham Hills
in Westfield. It will crown a season champion. In addition
to that, David, one of the things that I wanted
you to touch on is I was looking at the schedule
and you know, I understand that golf is that game
of focus, but there's a level of celebration. It seemingly

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looks like with this as well, because I don't know
that you often see concerts or you know, at concerts
at golf events and that kind of thing. I mean,
there's there's a wide array, is there not of entertainment
that kind of ties into all of it.

Speaker 3 (02:04:35):
Yeah, there is. I mean it's we're gonna have Riley
Greene on Friday and then Jason Deriddle, and I am
not familiar with either of those guys our music. I'm
more of a rough mon and off on chopin sort
of a guy. But the people behind their on to
the concert afterwards, and you know, yes, you're into that

(02:04:56):
kind of thing. It's just a different sounding experience. You know,
we got local culture, the fan village. You just got
plenty of things for kids to do. There's live music,
and it's much more of a celebration of golf. You know.

Speaker 1 (02:05:12):
The I got to ask you, David Well, I have
you here real quick. Anytime you venture into something new,
it's you know, it's out of your comfort zone, it's uncomfortable.
It's a challenge. You know, for a lot of people,
golf would be exactly that, right, Maybe trying a pork
tenorloin sandwich would be one of those The most terrifying
thing I've ever had to do in my life. I

(02:05:33):
mentioned it earlier, was trying to drive a rental car
in your home area, your home country of Ireland. Now,
are you terrified when you're drive in the US?

Speaker 3 (02:05:42):
Oh no, No, I've been here thirty three years.

Speaker 1 (02:05:44):
Well I know, but I'm even still right because it's
the It's it's a totally different feel man Like, I
don't see how you ever get used to it.

Speaker 3 (02:05:53):
Well, when I go back home, We've just been in
England on those n real country lanes. You know, I
drew figure than Ireland. I just drives on the medal
and trying to avoid the sheet.

Speaker 1 (02:06:04):
That's exactly right. And it's also the fact because you're
I mean, you're a naturalized citizen now are you not?
Are you a nationalized citizen? Yeah, so I do that.
But like it's the fact of driving on the opposites.
I don't mind driving on the other lane, it's sitting
on the opposite side of the car. It's amazing how
much that throws off your depth perception.

Speaker 3 (02:06:24):
Yeah, especially if you're driving a manual. Yeah, forget which
a lot of a lot of renting cars in the
UK and Ireland still are.

Speaker 1 (02:06:33):
Yeah, I forget it. No chance, absolutely no chance. Live
golf in particular, and the courses that you guys have
seen now and now going in to Chatham Hills and Westfield,
is there any way to know, David, which golfer this
particular course may favor or is it for the golfers

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that are on the Live Tour? Has the style and
or the courses that you've played forced some guys to
tweak a little bit their style?

Speaker 3 (02:07:05):
Well, this is a peak guy. In fact, I think
it was maybe the last peak guy that he ever did.
And uh, you know the only one that I'm really
familiar with, and it would be Crooked Stick. I played
the PGA Championship back there in ninety one. But peak
ie golf courses shert anybody that hits the ball high

(02:07:27):
depending on that. And I haven't seen Chatham Hills yet,
but you know, any Peak he didn't make any bad
golf courses. He made a few weird ones. Yeah, where
you got a lot of railroad ties and and uh,
difficult dog legs and things like that. You know, so
somebody who drives the ball well, uh, you know, like
a Bryson to Shamba for instance, you know, he hits

(02:07:49):
the ball not only four hundred yards, but he can
hit it straighter than the most you know, it would
it would shut him, It would shit any of the
longer hitters. Uh. But then you get guys that are
little technicians, you know, like an AA banswer, you know,
someone like that that can sort of think is where
I run the golf course and also search them, you know,
a peace gid course. So you know, it's differ going

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to pick a winner.

Speaker 1 (02:08:14):
Your highest PGA fine, you know, standings at the end
of a PGA championship. If I'm not mistaken, you were
within the top ten and ninety one at that PGA
Championship at Crooked Stick. I think that might have been
your best PGA finish.

Speaker 3 (02:08:27):
Yeah, well I think I finished six behind John Dailey. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:08:32):
Well, so Daily won it. And it's so fascinating because Daily,
of course was like an you know, an alternate at
the time, and I realized, for you, David, being a golfer,
this probably was not the case. But I think I
represent the majority of sports fans that literally probably not
until like Saturday of that tournament, had ever even heard
of John Daily. What is your recollection when you look

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back on what was a magical weekend in Central Indiana
for that ninety one Crooked Stick PGA of just kind
of the daily phenomenon that unfolded before our very eyes.
What was it like from a player's perspective.

Speaker 3 (02:09:07):
It was amazing to watch, you know. And I've known
John for a few years. The first time I played
it with him was done in Africa in eighty eight,
eighty seven, eighty eight, and I was leading a tournament
by a shot going into the last line, and I
got drawn with this skinny, blonde haired American kid, you know,
with a mullet, and I thought, who the hell is

(02:09:28):
this guy? I've never heard of him. And I went
out in twenty nine shots and I'm still only a
shot in front of him. I thought what And I
hadn't seen him, and he was either one hundred yards
in front of me, one hundred yards left or one
hundred yards right. And he ended up beating me by
a shot. And he said to me at the prize
giving we're standing at the prize giving ceremony, he says,

(02:09:50):
I'm going to have a party back my room at
the sampans On Hotel in Johannesburg, he said, would you
like to come? And I looked at him and I thought,
you know, that's probably not a good idea, but I'm
gonna but I'm gonna go. Yeah, and I went, and
we were awake for about five weeks after that. It

(02:10:15):
was you know, I don't remember going to bed. I mean,
he was unbelievable and that I mean, this is a
guy who won two major championships. People forget that he
was a phenomenally talented player. And the best photograph I
ever saw of John Daily was he was sitting on
the steps of the clubhouse Saint Andrew's the the Open

(02:10:39):
championship and he won, eating a McDonald's, you know, with
the rapper sitting on the ground beside him, with jeans
poking out of the bottom of his rain pens. And
I thought, well, that's my boy right there. You know,
he was a man of the people. He still is.
People loved him. He's a generous soul, an incredible player,

(02:10:59):
and you know, it's just so beautifully flawed that I
think a lot of people identified with him, because I
certainly did.

Speaker 1 (02:11:09):
Man that shot of him coming down, you know, at eighteen,
and you know, it's so interesting. David David Faride's our guest.
We're talking about live golf. It's going to be coming
up at Chatham Hills August fifteenth through the seventeenth. That
shot of Daily as he's coming down the fairway on
nineteen and you can see that when it hits him
and he realizes what's taking place and he starts pumping

(02:11:32):
his fist. It truly was a magical moment. Now, obviously
we know about and you know, you have been very
open and I commend it about some of the things
that you've overcome, some of the demons that you've battled
throughout your life. So to his John Daly as what
I presume to be a friend of yours, have you
had and do you still have at times you know,

(02:11:52):
concerned for him?

Speaker 3 (02:11:54):
Oh? Absolutely, you know. And those things that you talk about,
you know, addiction, depress and anxiety, you know, those are
things that I haven't overcome. I don't think you know,
the people who live with those things never overcome them.
You know, you live with them and you take your
psych meds and and you try to, you know, live

(02:12:16):
one day at a time. But I I struggled with it.
I I don't have perfect attendance, and it's something that
I deal with every day of my life. And I
know Johnny does tour. He you know, the demons that
that came to get him in the middle part of

(02:12:37):
his career. You know how he survived that. I don't know.
It's but it's one of those things. It's it's not
talked about often enough. You know, the people in the
public eye who do suffer from from these things, you know,
need to talk about them more because it's an epidemic

(02:12:58):
in our in our country and our children. You know,
we need to realize that.

Speaker 1 (02:13:04):
What would you say, David in conclusion to you know,
the thing I think is important is we kind of
never know who might be listening, right, We never know
who might who might gain something. Yeah, So the guy
or the gal or the young person that happens to
hear this interview that here's a guy that was a
professional golfer that's on TV that works for Live and thinks, man,

(02:13:26):
that guy's got the world of his fingertips And here
I am just trying to get my own lot in
life and I'm struggling. What would you say to that
person that's struggling?

Speaker 3 (02:13:36):
Well, when I first came to this country. It was
nineteen ninety three and I was in the middle of
a horrifying British Todd Loyd divorce that was all over
the newspapers. And you know, at the depths of an
undiagnosed depression, an alcoholic and a drug addict, and you know,

(02:13:59):
my Dame was head in size very quickly. I only
played two years two and a half years here of
my twenty year career. The rest of it I spent
around the world. But I met this girl from Mississippi
and she looked at me and said, yeah, I can
fix that. You know, everybody needs to have someone in

(02:14:19):
their life, you know, someone that can take the place
of drugs and alcohol, someone that can can be there
for you, you know, and then the first thing you
need to do is talk to them. You need to
talk to somebody about this, you know, recognize that it
is a problem for you, and understand that it can
be you know, something that you're you're able to deal
with and even turn to your own advantage. People made

(02:14:42):
fun of me at school. The teachers made fun of me.
I have a ninth grade education because you know, I
dropped out as a classic maybe on the verge of
the spectrum, you know, child with a learning disability, and
I I ended up making fun of myself as a

(02:15:02):
self defense and I found I was much better at
it than they were, and that sort of sued me
in good stead all these years. You know, I've done
ten years as a stand up comic and in places
around the country, in smaller theaters, you know, until COVIDS
kind of happened and that sort of knocked out on
the head. But you know, the very first thing you

(02:15:26):
need to do is talk about it, you know, and
recognize you know that you have a problem, and there
are people that will help you.

Speaker 1 (02:15:35):
David. There was a television show in the late seventies
with Valerie Burtonelli on it that fictionally took place in Indianapolis.
The name of the show was One Day at a Time,
And I guess that's a mantra that all of us
can live by. And then when the one day comes along,
that is August the fifteenth, you know that you have
three days of live golf at Chatham Hills up in Westfield,
August fifteenth through the seventeenth. Great conversation, great stories, and

(02:15:58):
certainly wish you the best in terms of your time
in Indianapolis, your pursuit of a tenderloin sandwich, and good health.

Speaker 3 (02:16:04):
To you to fight a lost Jake.

Speaker 1 (02:16:07):
Appreciate it. David Faride joining us on the program. We'll
come back. We'll put a tie on all of it.
J ANDV will take the handoff as well. Next told
you man. Every time I hear this song, I think
of nineteen eighty two. I was on the Giants Alisonville
Little League and we won our little league championship and

(02:16:30):
went in to a pizza party and this song. Somebody
had this song. They actually had a jukebox and we
played it. We each got to pick one song, and
like all twelve of us picked come on, Eileen. And
every time I hear it, I think about the little
League baseball party, the pizza party for winning the championship.
I've mentioned before, by the way, Chicago's Pizza eighteen central

(02:16:52):
Indiana locations, twenty five state wide. One of the things
I love about it is when exactly that you know,
kids parties or a family event, you want a place
like that when you're doing a celebration that gets it
and has that neighborhood, community, family feel. And that's what
you get from Chicago's Pizza. And every single time I
hear that song, I think of that, and I think

(02:17:14):
about all the kids that are able to celebrate the
exact same at any of their Central Indiana Chicago's Pizza
locations because they get it. They just get that atmosphere,
because they are a family owned business since nineteen seventy nine.
Jamb I forgot he is out at Colts Camp because
it is a night practice tonight, and I would assume

(02:17:34):
that is still a go. The weather is less than
it's funny. When I was out there, it was a
blazing inferno. And now John's out there and it's like
the Pacific Northwest, right.

Speaker 2 (02:17:43):
It's almost like San Diego.

Speaker 1 (02:17:46):
Jake, let me tell you something, Eddie, San Diego seventy
two and Sonny three hundred and sixty three days a year.
Have you ever been to San Diego? I have unbelievable right, Yes,
do you know that?

Speaker 2 (02:17:59):
I believe this is correct? I would love to go back.
I've only been there once.

Speaker 1 (02:18:03):
I believe what I'm about to say is correct.

Speaker 2 (02:18:06):
Went to the Tom Cruise House from Top Gun.

Speaker 1 (02:18:09):
Really Yeah, uh, San Diego? Is am I correct in
saying the largest city in the United States without a
professional sports championship, right ooh probably, And if the Colts
had not won a Super Bowl, Indianapolis was on deck
if San Diego would have won one. But San Diego,
I believe still holds that claim. I'd love to see

(02:18:31):
the Podres win one, just be for Tony Gwynn.

Speaker 2 (02:18:34):
The little brother of the Los Angeles Dondres.

Speaker 1 (02:18:37):
Why they are that man and those fan bases when
I say they hate each other like it's you do
not want I went to. Now, I don't know if
you know this or not, Eddie, if I've mentioned this
to you before, I know I mentioned it in the
Morning Show. My buddy Jeff Hester and I went to
a Podres Dodgers game in nineteen ninety six, the last.
It was the last home stand of the year for
the Padres. They had to win I think two out

(02:18:58):
of three to win the NL West. They did exactly that,
and while I was there, I participated in the largest
at that time, the largest participated by one group group, macharena.
Really yeah, they played this. They were like they even
had somebody come out and instruct how to do the macharena.
Then they played the song and we all did the
macharena and we I don't think they gave like any

(02:19:21):
prizes for us to claim to make that claim, but
nonetheless we were able to claim it. We went to
the world and participated in the world's largest macharena. Okay, okay,
there we go, now, hold.

Speaker 2 (02:19:35):
On, I can do it.

Speaker 1 (02:19:36):
You're ready, Okay, here we go. You ready? They see
that right there on the YouTube, like did you see
how things just spiked right there? But doing the macharina.
I got on the sexy Adida's long sleeve shirt and
then I did the makaraina right there. I got number.
I got news for ever. That's the sound of the

(02:19:57):
viewership of this program, female listeners now twenty six, right,
and we know that Shannon was listening earlier because she
sent a todd retext, right.

Speaker 2 (02:20:07):
And we know that everyone's gonna hate me later for
playing this song because that it's gonna be stuck in your.

Speaker 1 (02:20:11):
Head, no question, no question. Mo Mo from Ohio said
he just got walk five hundred miles out of his
head two weeks ago. And now you're firing this up, right, Okay,
there you go. So J and V is up next,
and I might stick around and have a chat with
him here. That sound like I got to scold him
on something I don't. But I want to find out
what it's like out at Colts Camp. So we'll go

(02:20:32):
out there to Grand Park in Westfield and JMV will
take things over, carry you home for the night practice
for the Colts, and we will break down all of
that again. Reminder tomorrow I will be at the Great
Indiana State Fair, the Dairy Bar specifically, So if you
are out and about for the opening day of one
of the great traditions in Indiana, the State Fair, then
certainly say hi, I look forward to it. I'll even

(02:20:53):
try to hook you up with a key Lime milkshake.
How about that? That's unfortunate. He's wearing his key Lime
shirt right now.

Speaker 2 (02:20:59):
Just for that fortune, I will be stuck in studio.

Speaker 1 (02:21:01):
Well, I'll bring you on, but you know what I
am out, I'll have to I'll have to call off
or do something and try to sneak out there when
you're serving whenever, that is, so I can get one
of these infamous Jake query most Oh, I'm telling you
it's a leaning tower Pisa, baby, baby, except for it's
not Pisa, it's ice cream. John's up next. Thank you
for listening to Query and Company.

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