LIVE From Grand Park Recapping Day Two! Bernhard Raimann Talks Contract Extension!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Now I will say this.

Speaker 2 (00:03):
You know, we used to have back when, years ago,
when I first started doing radio in town, there was
a guy, really good dude. Cody's his name, Really good guy,
and Cody used to like to partake in afternoon relaxation,
usually one third of the way through the hour after
four o'clock, and for that reason, Cody gave himself the

(00:24):
self proclaimed nickname of Toast. He would call the radio
show when I was doing afternoons, usually in about twenty
after four, and he'd be like, yeah, man, it's Toast,
and I'd have to remind him the show is over
at six because it take him a while to get
to his point. Good dude, though he would be perfectly
and appropriately named for today in terms of being out
here at Grand Park in Westfield because it's a little toasty.

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I'm not gonna lie to you. I will actually and
I won't mention it too many times. I mean, I
don't know, somewhere between three and two hundred the number
of times the commitment that I am showing for you
Colts fans, for you listeners of this show, that I'm
willing to and I know it. Listen, don't buy into
the hype. Don't buy the hype. Everything you see that

(01:06):
says don't go outside, heat advisory, dangerous, drink, plenty of water,
all that.

Speaker 1 (01:11):
Don't pay attention to any of that because your favorite.

Speaker 2 (01:13):
Radio host says, no, I'm willing to sit in an
open field an hour after practice ended and do a
radio show to bring content to you folks. That's the
commitment to dedication I have. There is a slight breeze
going through, so that's nice. It is day number two
for Colts practice and Colts camp here at Grand Park
in Westfield, and James Boyd is I don't know if

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James just enjoys the toast feeling.

Speaker 1 (01:36):
It's a little.

Speaker 2 (01:37):
Yesterday it was around two, so it wasn't terrible because
it was only the last hour of the show. But
I will say around two o'clock is when the humidity
really picked up and it was like, whoa, it is
warm out here. Matter of fact, there was a guy
yesterday mowing the field that I looked and he just
stopped at the thirty five yard line, put that bad
boy and parking left. And then it was me and
the rooster that thinks that it's four in the morning.

(01:58):
That was calling behind me. But it was cool because
there was a lot to talk about yesterday, and there's
going to be a lot to talk about today. There's
going to be a lot to talk about today because
and I'm going to give a pop quiz for all
of you folks, the listeners of this program, because I know,
and I trust, and I believe in the aptitude, the

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intellect of all of you, the instinct of.

Speaker 1 (02:23):
All of you. You're a smart audience.

Speaker 2 (02:25):
This company, querying Company, we have a rigorous, rigorous process
by which we do hiring, and that includes making sure
that you have the finest of education. And if you didn't,
you consulted Georgia O'Leary and lied about it anyway, and
so we hired you. I mean, we're very very on
top of it here. And so I know the wisdom

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that all of you have, and I will give you
a glimpse behind the curtain. And that glimpse behind the
curtain is this on each day for the colts camp,
because the practice ends at eleven o'clock. Tomorrow will be
closer to a eleven fifteen. But by practice ending at
eleven o'clock, that affords us the opportunity to conduct interviews

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as soon as the practice is over and then run
them in the show within the hour or so. And
I did an interview earlier that I believe because sometimes
you can tell I've done this for a while, and
sometimes you can tell when someone says something you're like
that feels like a news nugget that feels like that

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may grow some legs and.

Speaker 1 (03:38):
Move at the pace that.

Speaker 2 (03:41):
Is suddenly going to become like a small story that
then people are going to start talking about it. And
the interview that I did with Bernard Ryman, who I
think is going to be a very very important player
already is a very important player for the Colts, but
a very important player, and he said something about halfway
through the interview where I thought to myself, you know what,

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my mom and seven other people will be listening to
this probably when this happens. But if my mom gets
out her laptop, she will hear that quote from Bernard Ryman,
and that may become a news story. Here in day
number two of Colts Camp, James Boyd watched practice earlier today.

Speaker 1 (04:18):
We will get reaction from him.

Speaker 2 (04:19):
But before we do so, Eddie, if you could please
with the breaking news sounder, this just in in the
last couple of minutes. There are multiple reports now that
the man who first broke through in nineteen eighty three
was the first that I knew of him as Thunderlips
in Rocky three and became one of the most beloved

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figures within professional wrestling, and later went on to obviously
a reality television series. Some polarization, but at the same time,
I think it is safe to say by most accounts
a beloved figure for the course of his career. Hulk
Hogan passing away earlier today, that announcement just coming within
the last thirty minutes or so, that hul Cogan so

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Ozzy Osbourne Hulk Hogan within the last couple of days,
and certainly I know there were plenty plenty of fans.
I don't know if you look at the rise of
professional wrestling, the WWE. Admittedly that is not as much
my wheelhouse as many Mark Dyton comes to mind in
that regard, but certainly if you were a kid of
the eighties and the nineties, it was impossible to not

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know of the impact of professional wrestling and the entertainment
scale and the arena and stadium scale. And I don't
know that anybody was a bigger figure in all of
that than hul Cogan. He was the absolute face of
and I think, to a great extent, the center of
the rise of that sport. Over time, it has not
been I don't know. And I'm just seeing this right now, Eddie.

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You can chime in if you saw it differently than I.
I simply saw the headline of it, did not get
a chance to go into it. I don't know if
a cause or if he had been ill of why
Hulk Hogan passed away at the age of seventy one,
So I'm not sure if that was a sudden thing
or a private illness. Either way, Eddie, were you a
fan of professional wrestling in that era?

Speaker 1 (06:10):
Not really?

Speaker 3 (06:11):
Jake and TMZ reporting that it was a cardiac arrest,
That's what the quote was that they have about arriving
to his home early Thursday morning. But no, I was
never really into pro wrestling at all.

Speaker 2 (06:25):
Okay, so there you go. Cardiac arrest, so obviously hard
for Hulk Hogan. But and I realized obviously hul Cogan
was his stage name. And you know, if you're gonna
go in in, you know, Terry Balaiyah, I believe Balia
was his his actual birth name, but hul Cogan passing
away in terms of practice from earlier today for the

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Colts Camp. In this day number two, practice number two,
I made a pack to myself. I'm a sweeter, more
sensitive guy.

Speaker 1 (06:57):
I just am.

Speaker 2 (06:59):
You know, like this weekend for the IndyCar Race, the
title sponsor's Java House and they are partnered with the
Indianapolis based Splendor. Splenda is a sweetener and you know
splendors made here. So I'm a more sweet guy. So
I'm the I'm the sweeter splendid version of the midday
show here on this radio station, your midday option. So

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I'm not going to, in any way, shape or form,
after one day of a one hour practice make any
sort of a flippant comment about the fact that DeForest Buckner,
Taekwon Lewis, Kenny Moore the Second, and Braden Smith all
got a veteran rest day today. I'm not, in any way,
shape or form gonna make any comment about the fact
that after you know, an hour of practice on day

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number one, that it's important to go ahead and make
sure those guys are rested. And you know, you got
to get your rest. You got to get your rest
and it was pretty hot yesterday. If they needed like
ivy fluids or something, I get it. And I'm being
totally serious when I say that, But I think it
was an already written in veteran rest day for those
four again, Horse Buckner, Taekwon Lewis, Kenny Moore, and Braden

(08:02):
Smith all with the rest day today. No practice after
one day. Load management, folks, load management. But in terms
of the on field activity today, the probably the biggest
story is the fact that Anthony Richardson threw an interception.
And I don't know how much you read into that
he threw an interception to Juju Brince. If you were

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a glass half full guy, you would say, great play
by Juju Brents. But it also was not a great
throw from Anthony Richardson. And I think that we're still
going to see that. This reminds me the Anthony Richardson
watch reminds me to a little bit for a little
bit of the if you remember Peyton Manning. Peyton Manning

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when he was coming off of the neck injury, we
were waiting for the nerves to regenerate themselves, and so
he would have throws and I'm talking about more so
when he was with Denver in that first year. But
he had some throws that would be he would let
go of it and you're like, where in the world
is that going? And then other throws where you could
tell he was putting everything into it and it just
didn't have enough oomph. And there were a lot of

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just kind of floating ducks that Peyton Manning was throwing
around at that time. And I don't know if it's
the shoulder. I don't know if it is you know, footwork.
There are a number of different ways that you can
look at it, but with any of them it it
very clearly with Anthony Richardson, he is still trying to

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find his exact footing. And you know as a quarterback.
I don't mean literally his footing. I mean still the
mechanics and just finding the precision as a quarterback is
something that Anthony Richardson is searching for without question. And
by the way, yes, when I say that they from
a whenever there is a celebrity passing and they say

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they come in threes, Malcolm, Jamal Warner, Ozzy Osbourne, I
forgot about Malcolm Jamal Warner, Malcolm Jamal Warner, Ozzy Osbourne
and Hulko. Is the three so sad on all three
of them because all three had and left a major
impact in three different ways. Absolutely no question about it.
By the way, yesterday I had three bottles three liters

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of water. I'm going for four today, baby, And I'm
curious of this. When did water become electrolyte infused? Isn't
water just by principle like two hydrogen one oxygen? Who
puts in the electrolytes and does that changed the h
two oz balance of it. Matt Taylor, the voice of
the Coults, going to join us at one thirty today,
and I think, actually, I mean, you know, the guy
was educated around Collie, like he knows these kinds of things,

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chemistry expert.

Speaker 1 (10:36):
Yesterday we were in here. It was amazing to me.

Speaker 2 (10:38):
I was We're the last two people in here before
the rooster woke up, and Matt was actually overplaying with
an abacus for the better part of yesterday. So we're
talking the intellect that I'm surrounded by. So I'm going
to ask Matt Taylor that question later. But the electrolytes
are important today because it's a little toasty it's a
little warm. I'm not gonna lie to you, but that
was the big story Richardson through an interception. Today, we

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again continue to see and lou Aniromo makes no bones
about this. As a matter of fact, just when talking
about Justin Wally the young corner, I think he's going
to be a real talking point over the course of
this camp. Two days do not a camp make. A
camp does not a preseason make, and a preseason does
not a season make. But from the time that he
was drafted, I think the overall instinct and athleticism of

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Wally is something that they have continued to talk and
profess about and almost brag about, to be honest with you,
And it's one thing to talk about that, but it's
another thing to talk about it and then put it
into motion. And when you consider Jalen Jones and Juju
brent So I mentioned earlier, had an interception today, those
are two guys that have been on the field. In

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the case of Juju Brentz, who I do like. I
like his athleticism, I like his length, I like his
closed gap ability.

Speaker 1 (11:56):
And I'll explain what I mean by that in a second.

Speaker 2 (11:58):
But there's a lot I like about Juju, but health
has been the one question mark, and because he has
not been able to stay on the field from a
health standpoint, he's got to kind of work his way
back in. So to have a guy that was playing,
you know, in the Big ten six months ago, nine
months ago, whatever it may be, and now you are
putting him in and you are immediately saying this guy's

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going with unit number one. That says something. And it's
one thing to talk about the intrigue you have with
a young player. It's another one to go ahead and
put him on the pedestal and on display for everybody
of being out there. And that's what they've done with
him so far now in terms of windows. You've heard
me mention it before, But I always go back to

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one of the first camps that I covered here extensively
would have been Peyton Manning's first camp, and I remember vividly,
I remember actually where we were when the quote happened.
Tom Moore Bruce arians at that time as a quarterbacks
coach for the Colts, and Tom Wore Wild an offensive
coach for the Colts, and they were, you know, both

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of them, they were regular subjects for interview after those
practices because everyone wanted to know, not unlike now when
everyone wants to know. I think there's a thought process
that there is a defer to Daniel Jones, And by
that I mean there is the thought process in the

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case of Daniel Jones and Anthony Richardson, that Daniel Jones
is the starting quarterback that you'd defer to if Richardson
can't find stability or whatever else. But I think there
are a lot of people that think, Okay, they're going
to give Richardson they wanted to be Richardson, and then
if it doesn't work, Jones is your default. So I
guess by default is what I'm saying, even though Jones

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is starting out and started yesterday taking starting reps. But
I think Richardson is going to get like all these
opportunities right because of what has invested both financially and
also equity in him.

Speaker 1 (14:00):
And so for that.

Speaker 2 (14:01):
Reason, that is a huge topic of conversation, question everything
else from every coach that analyzes that position that we
will talk about regularly over the course of this camp.
And that was the case when Manning was a rookie
and even into his second and third year. The progress
of Peyton. Manning was a constant source of discussion and
analysis in his early time. Same with Andrew Luck, but

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luck at the ground running. I mean, with Andrew Luck
it was like boom, let's go. Manning took a little
bit more conditioning, truth be told. And one of the
things that I remember the most was Tom Moore saying
after a practice that Manning came over and tom Moore said,
this is when I knew that Manning still had stuff
to work on. Tom Moore was getting on him for

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not throwing a pass. I think it might have been
to Jerome Pathon, and he said, well, you got to throw,
you gotta uncook that ball. And Manning said, no, no, no,
the window wasn't open. And tom Moore said, that's what
you don't understand. In the NFL, that's the window. You're
not playing South Carolina anymore, You're not playing Florida anymore,
You're not playing Vanderbilt anymore. The window here is that tight.

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When it is that tight, if there is any opening,
you got a thread it right then. And your timing
has to be that you anticipate window before it opens.
And that's where Manning became so good. Is when any
receiver an Austin Colley, Brian Fletcher. Receivers that were good,
maybe not great receivers were made to look great because

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they knew they would run a route and break the
second they turned around.

Speaker 1 (15:34):
The ball was right there where it.

Speaker 2 (15:36):
Needed to be when it needed to be there, because
Manning figured out how to make that throw not when
the window was open, but rather when the window was
going to be open, and anticipating the eighth of a
second that it was going to be open. And Anthony Richardson,
to me, still looks like a guy that that is
the thing. He has not yet figured out the window

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for Anthony Richardson. When you grow up and you are
able to outfit physical in every aspect of what you
need to do by your arm strength, your run strength,
your break tackle strength, when those things naturally are happening
for you, then to all of a sudden go into
a situation for the first time. And when I say
the first time, I realize the guy's been in the
league for a while now, but he's been hurt. So

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when Richardson is out there on the field right now,
he is going up against players that he does not
out physical much anymore. Yes, he does from the quarterback position.
It's more unique than any other quarterback. But with all
of that said, the areas in which the areas in
which he is able to use his size and strength

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are fewer and further between at the professional level than
the college level, and that window from a throw or
even a decision making standpoint is faster, and they still
elude him. And today with you know, with Juju Brent's
getting the pick that he made, it wasn't even that
Juju Brents necessarily like immediately collabse stint on a window.
It was that there was a pass that was simply

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a floater. I mean it was it was not a
well thrown football, and Juju Brents was able to I
talked about instinct instinctively make that play, instinctively make the play.

Speaker 1 (17:13):
A big show lined up for us.

Speaker 2 (17:15):
Eddie, please get me for a give for me if
you could the rundown of what we have lined up
on the big program today here on a Thursday edition
Aquarying Company.

Speaker 3 (17:21):
So in less than fifteen minutes we'll have Colds left
tackle Bernard Ryman joining the program at.

Speaker 1 (17:26):
The top of the hour.

Speaker 3 (17:27):
Stephanie White, I think is making appearance. Jake, I'm not
sure because I don't know if you've told her or
not since her last visit last week part of the
All Star Break. I did not watch shaw Shake Redemption,
so I don't know if she's going to make the
call in because she did say that in order to
provide her analysis that I had to go watch it,
and I have not gone and watching yet, So we'll
see if she picks up the phone. At one o'clock.

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Matt Taylor will join us. I think he's joining you
right there at Grand Park at one thirty.

Speaker 1 (17:53):
Sore. You have a little friend in the swell Fork,
you know. Now.

Speaker 2 (17:55):
You tell me if this should offend me. You tell me, Eddie.
I'll cut you off there. You tell me if this
should offend me. Okay, so let me set the scene here.
If you come out for practice at the Colts camp.
It's great. I mean it's very cool, and it actually
is really cool to have the access that we do
because I'm sitting right on the sidelines right off of
the end zone. I can't complain about any of it.
It's amazing and the Colts have actually been very very

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helpful in helping us out with these interviews beforehand and
everything else, so not to complain at all. Obviously, we
booked these and came up with what shows we were
doing live before we had the official practice schedule. And
the practice ends at eleven o'clock tomorrow, eleven fifteen, so by.
And it's also I don't know if you know this.
Did you ever see that movie with Matt Damon where

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he lived on Mars?

Speaker 1 (18:37):
No? Okay, well I'm listening at Martian, so yes, the Martian.
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (18:42):
Now I'm not there's in no way, shape or form
am I going to make a potato field out of
my own dung here? But it is warm, okay, and
I'm the only one here, so I don't know if
I should be offended by this or not. But yesterday
Casey Value and Matt Taylor, both working for the Colts.
They are inside of the same tinted area, so we
do have cover from the sun, which is good that
we are on looking out onto the field. They both
just picked up a table and walked out of here.

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I don't know what I'm supposed to make of that,
but there was a nice they were sitting before me.
Casey Vallier was sitting next to me yesterday for the
better part of the day, and you know, it was
just nice to have that, you know, the human camaraderie.
Both of them, they literally in tandem. They looked at
each other, they both grabbed the underside of the table,
picked it up, and walked out of here. So now
literally literally on the Martian, which I know is surprising to.

Speaker 1 (19:29):
You, right, Eddie, not at all, not at all.

Speaker 2 (19:31):
Okay, So then after Matt Taylor two o'clock hour, what's
lined up on the big program?

Speaker 1 (19:35):
H Tom?

Speaker 3 (19:35):
Do you know Golden Black. We talked to Zach Osterman
yesterday about what Kurt Signett he had to say a
big ten media day. Barry Odom meets with the media
out in Las Vegas this afternoon. So Tom Dean heard
to talk about that and plus all the different editions
and how different Purdue will look this year football wise.

Speaker 1 (19:53):
Yeah, the I'm very curious about Purdue.

Speaker 2 (19:56):
I'm very curious about Perdue because I listen, we went
last year.

Speaker 1 (20:01):
Remember I went to the Predue Oregon game.

Speaker 2 (20:03):
I was gonna go watch Purdue, you know, shock the
world with Purdue and Oregon and did not go.

Speaker 1 (20:09):
I did get to meet the Duck, which was awesome.
I met the Oregon duck.

Speaker 2 (20:12):
The picture is actually six foot by six foot framed
inside of my place now. But that was the highlight
of it. But I really like going to ross Aid
and going to games. It just feels like a big environment.
It does night games of prdue does, but they've been
terrible and I'm hoping that that takes care of itself.

Speaker 1 (20:27):
Today. James Boyd just walked over real quick.

Speaker 2 (20:29):
I'm gonna grab him before he takes up out of here,
and we're gonna get his thoughts and his observations on
what he saw from camp. Of course, you heard James
this morning along with Kevin Bowen, as they will be
again tomorrow from seven until ten am. James, first off,
now help me out here. It is warmer now than
when you guys were on this morning. Correct, yes it
is warmer. But to me, the breeze helps. It does

(20:51):
the breeze, certain, it does, it does. Opening this up
was a genius decision. Yeah, there's the tent behind us
has a there's a great view of Touchdown Town or
whatever it's called behind us, which again I'm the Martian, right,
I mean that's back there is where I'm actually if
I do decide to do so where I'm gonna plant
my dunge potato field like Matt Damon did in the
movie of oursh Okay, So give me the rundown. I

(21:12):
mentioned in fact, Anthony Richardson threw kind of a lame
duck today and they continue to be impressed with Justin
Walllye it woul appear.

Speaker 1 (21:18):
But what else jumped out at you?

Speaker 4 (21:19):
I thought those were certainly the biggest takeaways.

Speaker 5 (21:21):
Obviously, anytime you throw it to the other team in practice,
that's gonna get noted. And I think Anthony still at
times a bit inaccurate. I thought Daniel Jones had a
fairly okay day. It wasn't something that jumped out to me.
No one really had like the big time play like
yesterday's day when Daniel Jones hit Anthony Gould down the sideline.

(21:43):
There was no like big play from either of the
top two quarterbacks. A little bit of a Tyler Warren sighting.
I thought, you know, he made a couple of catches today,
and I thought that he was a little bit more involved.

Speaker 2 (21:51):
Which does he look more Tyler Warren like an in
stride across the middle catching guy or can contort his
body and make the difficult catch.

Speaker 1 (21:59):
Cindy, good question.

Speaker 5 (22:01):
I think he's a great, you know, contested catch guy.
I don't know if he's like the contorting his body type. However,
it was good to just see him get open across
the middle and kind of get some balls because that
is an area of the field that the Colts have
really lacked him when it comes to any type of
success in recent years. They've never had anybody over in
the middle that to catch the ball, and so just
seeing him get a little more involved than he was
yesterday was a good sign. Cam Binen was very you

(22:24):
know it, spoke very highly of him and was saying, Hey,
the guy.

Speaker 4 (22:27):
If you didn't tell me, I wouldn't know that he's
a rookie.

Speaker 5 (22:29):
So it's a good sign from how he's approached the game,
how he's kind of integrated into the offense.

Speaker 4 (22:33):
So that s't out to me as well.

Speaker 5 (22:34):
And then Jelanny woodside and keeping him with the tight
end theme, I thought, I for a second, I was
a west second. He's back healthy and I get you know,
Jelanni Woods hyping July is always a little you know,
scary because he had has he's had injury history.

Speaker 4 (22:47):
However, just seeing him get out there, you wonder does
that matter?

Speaker 6 (22:50):
All right?

Speaker 2 (22:50):
We will continue to monitor all of those things. James,
you should get your laptop ready because I don't know this.
I don't know this, okay, but I think I've done
this a long time. Every once in a while, when
you do an interview, and I'm sure this happens with
you, you do an interview and somebody says something where you're like,
I think that's a news nugget. I think I just
got dropped the news nugget. And just before this show began,

(23:13):
I did record an interview with Bernard Ryman, who is
entering his fourth year. And most importantly, by the way,
this bottled water that I bought, it's a brand I'm
not familiar with.

Speaker 1 (23:20):
It looks like a tequila bottle.

Speaker 4 (23:21):
I'll say, are you drinking on air?

Speaker 6 (23:23):
Here?

Speaker 1 (23:23):
Is that?

Speaker 2 (23:23):
It looks it looks like I'm drinking tequila?

Speaker 1 (23:25):
And so would be is it national tequila?

Speaker 7 (23:28):
To hold on? Lord, you got a line for me?
Oh my goodness, for the salt. All I do is
look my do that right? I don't even need natural.

Speaker 1 (23:41):
I don't even need natural. This is bottled water.

Speaker 2 (23:43):
Everybody just say no, but it does look like could
send a tequila bottle on National Tequila Day. All right,
Bernard Ryman interview Next he is in a contract year,
and typically with that a guy simply says, yeah, I
let other people worry about that. But Bernard Ryman went
one step further. The interview's next day number two is
now in the books. Colts Camp Grand Park up in Westfield,

(24:06):
where we are Jake Querry here up in Hamilton County
and joined by a guy that I think is a
real key figure for this Colts team entering year number
four now Bernard Ryman, the left tackle of out of
Central Michigan, where you know you were.

Speaker 1 (24:20):
I always forget about this.

Speaker 2 (24:21):
You started out as a tight end, yes, sir, first
transition in college, and I remember talking to you when
you were a rookie just about still kind of learning
that position. Did you feel like from an NFL standpoint,
there again was kind of that same learning curve because
that left tackle position is so important at the NFL level,
and there was so much expected on you from an
early standpoint from the time he stepped on the field.

Speaker 8 (24:43):
Yeah, absolutely, I mean college it was quick turnaround. It
was you know, COVID year we had six games. Then
my senior season at twelve games, so eighteen games of
tackle and then you know, had to make an NFL team,
So that was definitely a big, big learning curve. But
we have some great veterans in the room that really
helped me out. You know, Q, Braden Ryan, all those

(25:07):
guys were huge my rookie year and they've also you know,
it stayed that way too, like every single year, can
I can keep learning from them, I can keep improving
my game, and that's what it's all about, just you know,
keep on improving, working the little things and trying to
get better every day.

Speaker 2 (25:21):
You know, the guy that was the staple and the
pillar at that position obviously just before you was Anthony Gastanzo,
and Castanzo to me was always fascinating because in getting
to know him over the course of his career, the
one thing I learned is that he never stopped learning.
Like he took the left tackle position almost like a
geometric science of studying all aspects and angles of it.

Speaker 1 (25:41):
Do you agree with that kind of mental approach of
the position?

Speaker 6 (25:45):
Oh?

Speaker 8 (25:45):
Absolutely, I mean just even the smallest things, the smallest
angles the smallest step, the smallest you know, muscle you
use when you when you push off like that can
all affect your game in so many ways and can
improve your game. So I think if you don't focus
on these little things, and if you don't study the game,
if you don't study your opponents, if you don't don't

(26:06):
study these things, I think you you stop learning and
then then you need to get better.

Speaker 1 (26:10):
You get worse.

Speaker 8 (26:11):
There's no standing still, I think in this league. So yeah,
if you don't improve, you you won't make it here long.

Speaker 2 (26:18):
You know, football in general, for fans, and I don't
mean to say whether it's Anthony Richardson or Daniel Jones
or Riley Leonard or whoever, fans would like to see
the consistency of just who's the starting quarterback.

Speaker 1 (26:31):
And let's go with that from a line standpoint.

Speaker 2 (26:34):
As the guy that's protected and you are the blind
side protector, does the approach change or the style change
based on who it is that you are protecting?

Speaker 6 (26:48):
To be honest, not really.

Speaker 8 (26:50):
I mean all those guys are obviously great players off
the field, but also on the field, I mean they
all can they all have the arm to throw the ball.
You know deep, they all can make the reads, but
they're also all athletics, so do.

Speaker 2 (27:04):
They have different tendencies though in terms of like one
guy and that's what I meant by that. More so,
like you know, one guy, you know, Okay, he's going
to spend more time this side, pocket or that side,
or oscillate this way that way. Can you get too
caught up in what it is that their tendencies favor
a little.

Speaker 8 (27:19):
Bit, But I mean, at the end of the day,
the defense, you know, decides love that too. I mean,
if a quarterback usually gets rid of the ball faster,
but the defense is taking away all his you know,
all his the first two reads or whatever, then obviously
he's gonna hold onto the ball longer. So as an
alignment you can't rely on on you can't guess, but

(27:41):
which is obviously also the difficult part about this position.
You you don't exactly know where the quarterback is at
all times. You don't know if he's holding onto the ball,
if he is rolling out of the pocket. So it's
it's it's good to learn the quarterbacks, the cadences, their
their style, the place to prefer. But at the end

(28:01):
of the day, I think in game, it's it's kind
of you. You You're trying to do your job and
you're protecting whoever's back there.

Speaker 2 (28:09):
That is the voice of Bernard Ryman. We are at
Colts camp up at Grand Park in Westfield. Bernard entering
year number four left tackle for the Colts. If it
were up to you, is would you rather have stability
and in terms of every single game, same starter at
the quarterback position or the center position.

Speaker 1 (28:29):
I mean.

Speaker 8 (28:31):
Both would be great, but obviously in this league it's
it's the day to day business where people get hurt
all the time. I mean, you see year year after year.
But I trust all of these guys I lost. I
trust entire quarterback room. I trust all of our centers
to you know, step up and do what needs to
be done to win games. So I'm not too concerned

(28:53):
about it. I trust all of this guy, I thought.

Speaker 2 (28:54):
BUTTERLINI last year when put in the center position, and
I like Danny Pinter and his kind of Swiss army.

Speaker 1 (28:59):
Knife fast as well.

Speaker 2 (29:00):
But Bartolini, I thought, when he was put in the
center position, did play really well and showed a lot
of promise of being it. He kind of reminds me
of you, to be honest with you, the guy that
he went into that position and you wondered what it
was going to be, but it looked like he was
acclimated from the get go. Now, for you, when you
observe him or help him out as a young player,

(29:21):
can you see where there is growth or areas that
need to be improved.

Speaker 8 (29:25):
I mean absolutely, I see growth from him every single day.
I know, you know, Tayner and Danny are battling it out.
You know, Wesley Fringes in the mix to They're all
great players, and I think it's really kind of come
down to little things in the game that obviously the
higher ups the coach is going to get going to decide.

(29:47):
But for me personally, I see improvements from all of them,
and I see how much they've worked on it, to
see how much team they want it, and that is
just you know, it fuels the whole group because if
there's if there's some guys you know doing extra reps,
then it encourages everyone else to do the same thing.
So we just keep on pushing each other, you know,

(30:08):
even if it's between a tackle and the center, it
doesn't matter. We try to improve as a group and
I think they're all going to be really, really good
for the season.

Speaker 1 (30:15):
Do you remember your first start? Yeah, Do you remember.

Speaker 2 (30:19):
The positive things that came from it or the place
where you got beat?

Speaker 8 (30:24):
I mean, obviously I think as an athlete, as a
football player, but as an a lineman specifically, you always
remember the bad place.

Speaker 1 (30:35):
Most then that has to kind of drive you a
little bit, right, It absolutely does.

Speaker 6 (30:38):
I mean it's it's stings.

Speaker 8 (30:40):
It hurts because you know, the good plays are expected
and the bad plays are unacceptable. So I think that's
just you know, part of the position it. You know,
the first you know it happens, it keeps you up
at night, but you know you end up learning from it.
You get you you're getting better from it. Is your
position mental? Oh absolutely?

Speaker 2 (31:02):
You know does that make sense, like, can you get
into kind of a streak or a slump mentally where
then you got to fight your way back from it?

Speaker 6 (31:09):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (31:09):
Absolutely.

Speaker 8 (31:09):
I think You've seen in the league every year that
that people like get in their own heads, and players
that you know were are usually consistent, all of a
sudden drop off just because they're they're the mentalities and
right or day they started thinking about too much and
I absolutely believe that it's a huge thing about disposition
specifically just because there's a lot of pressure. So but

(31:31):
I mean for us, we just rely on each other
and we do good jobs supporting each other.

Speaker 2 (31:35):
If you're in a contract year Bernard Drive and you're
in here, you are, and you're number four, you have
earned the right for a big time deal. You know,
I see the numbers twenty twenty one projected per year,
et cetera.

Speaker 1 (31:46):
Is this the first priority of where you want to be?

Speaker 6 (31:49):
No, I mean, first priority for me is winning a
Super Bowl this year.

Speaker 1 (31:53):
That's But I mean in terms of the franchise you
want to be with, is it, Oh? Absolutely yes, yes.

Speaker 8 (31:57):
I mean obviously we love it here. We would love to,
you know, get things done. But I'm not I'm not
involved in this. Obviously you haven't. You have an agent
that takes care of this. From my understanding, there's they

(32:18):
aren't on the same page about things. So you say
they're not on the same page as of right now,
they're not exactly the same page right now. So but
I mean, as I said, for me, as a football player,
I'm I'm preparing for the season because that's what matters.

Speaker 2 (32:32):
Yeah, I understand when you talk to your agent about it,
when he says, hey, look, they're not on the same page.
Do you think that that means just in terms of
the Colts don't want to have the discussion yet, or
the numbers themselves are way off base.

Speaker 8 (32:44):
From my understanding is that the numbers don't always quite
add up yet, you know the way they they might
value a position differently than than than my team thinks
it is.

Speaker 1 (32:59):
But I'm you know, we're working.

Speaker 6 (33:02):
We're working on.

Speaker 2 (33:02):
Your positions one of the most valuable here, you know that, right,
Like I'll be your agent for you here. Your position
is really important, right So obviously I'm well aware of that.
You just want to make sure they're well aware of that.

Speaker 8 (33:12):
Right absolutely, And I mean I know that my agent
knows that. Hoping the Colts know that too. But obviously
for me, it's just it's about the here and now
I'm improving. I'm working on this. We still have a
I have a guaranteed season with the Colts right now.
That's what I'm working on. That's been working towards that
Super Bowl and everything else is you know.

Speaker 6 (33:34):
Up to people outside of outside of.

Speaker 1 (33:39):
Yeah, right here, Okay, I want to ask you this
every year.

Speaker 2 (33:42):
I you know, when our jobs are similar in this aspect,
and that is that once the NFL season begins, if
I want to take time off for a vacation, it's
got to come really during the bye week, because you know,
everything kind of centers around what you guys are doing, understandably.
So so this year, on the bye week, I thought, well,
you know, I like to go over to Europe. That's
one of my things that I I enjoy doing. I
really want to see Vienna, your home city of being

(34:03):
in Austria. But the bye week, I think, is the
first weekend in November. Now, what would the weather be
like if I go over then?

Speaker 1 (34:08):
Is that a.

Speaker 8 (34:09):
Terrible time to go? I don't think it's ever a
terrible time to visit Vienna. But it's gonna be similar
to here, similar to like the Midwest temperature, So it
might be cold and rainy there, but it's it's it's
still a beautiful time. I mean, you can still do
a lot of sight seeing there. I'm not quite sure

(34:30):
if the Christmas markets will be open by then, but
that's definitely something.

Speaker 1 (34:33):
You got it. That's pretty cool, right? Yeah? What do
you miss most about home.

Speaker 6 (34:37):
Family and friends, so that the people really do.

Speaker 1 (34:40):
You get a chance. How often do you go back
or like in the off season you get to go back.

Speaker 6 (34:43):
Usually we go into off season.

Speaker 8 (34:45):
But this year my wife and I we just had
a baby, so obviously we didn't we didn't travel with
a little one.

Speaker 1 (34:51):
But we'll be back, gratch. How old is the baby?

Speaker 6 (34:53):
Five months now? Thank you?

Speaker 1 (34:54):
So are you getting any sleep?

Speaker 6 (34:55):
Yeah?

Speaker 8 (34:56):
Yeah, I mean we moved into the hotel right now,
so that's obviously helping. But she's she's been great, she's
been she's been a good sleeper.

Speaker 2 (35:03):
Okay, So with that in terms of right now, just
your overall mindset when you look at this roster, you
look at where you guys were from a year ago
and maybe areas you fell short. What is both the
Bernard Rayman and the Indianapolis Colt? I guess mindset. And
I know you're going to say, well, it's to go
to the super Bowl.

Speaker 1 (35:20):
I get that. I'm out looking for the patent answer here, right.

Speaker 2 (35:22):
The reality answer is when you guys resume and you
sit down and you look over things, the area that
you say to yourself, we've got to get this right,
is what I.

Speaker 6 (35:32):
Think it's just daily improvements. It's it's the little things.
You know.

Speaker 8 (35:34):
Sometimes it's a lot of the times it's like a
player too short, that's a score, a field goal that different,
that can make a difference at the end of the game.
It's it's always close, but you know we can't afford
that as a team. You know, close isn't good enough,
So shame.

Speaker 2 (35:50):
Schichen had mentioned that that games oftentimes come down to
like the last couple of drives and the frantic nature
of it. Now he told us, I don't know if
he's told you this, that in practice what he wants
to try to do in this camp is create havoc
and create chaos for you guys to then get used
to navigating through.

Speaker 1 (36:07):
Have you seen that approach from a practice standpoint?

Speaker 6 (36:11):
Absolutely.

Speaker 8 (36:11):
I mean there's been a lot of urgency, a lot
of you know, different situations thrown at us in meetings
in practice, and I think the coaches are really trying
to push all of us, not just physical, but also,
like you mentioned, mentally with the different situations like you know,
end up the game and stuff.

Speaker 6 (36:31):
So I've definitely noticed that.

Speaker 2 (36:33):
Okay, lastly is because we did this last time. I
talked to you so Arnold Schwarzenegger obviously is from Austria.
You probably get tired of doing this every single time
you talked to be unli.

Speaker 1 (36:41):
We had you do.

Speaker 2 (36:41):
Bernard Ryman, I'll be back, like in the Schwarzenegger voice.
But now what I need you to say is, I'm
Bernard Ryman and I want to be back. All right,
all right now your agent probably you don't want to
hear that. But here we go from a leverage standpoint.
All right, here we go three two and one.

Speaker 6 (36:57):
I'm Bernard Ryman and I want to be back.

Speaker 2 (36:59):
Yes, yes, all right, Bernard Ryman here four, appreciate it.
Better for luck to you. Bernard Ryman. Here, Colts Camp
Practice number two. We will recap for you everything it
took place here at the camp itself and get you
set up for this on what is going to be
a very very warm Thursday, no question about it's quarry
company here.

Speaker 1 (37:16):
You're listening to it ninety three five one to seventy
five to the fan.

Speaker 2 (37:20):
So you folks tell me if I'm wrong, but it
seemed to me, and yes, I cannot imagine a scenario
where the Colts don't do everything possible to retain Bernard Rayman.
But when he said my understanding from my agent is
that we are not close, I thought initially what he

(37:44):
meant by that was because I was thinking about Ryan
Kelly and a year ago when Chris Ballard had said, like,
you know, we let Ryan Kelly know that we will
wait until the end of the year before we assess things.
And obviously, in that situation and understandably, you know, the
Colts decided to move on and go with a younger cent.

Speaker 1 (38:00):
I get that.

Speaker 2 (38:02):
But in the case of Bernard Ryman, you know, I
think the best interest here for the Colts is to
lock him in now because I think realistically, and yes, certainly,
Bernard Ryman is a guy that could get hurt knock
on wood. You don't wish that for anybody, opposition, or
you know, whatever it may be. But having said that,

(38:23):
I think the longer that he goes and the more
he plays into this year, and the more that he
continues to progress as he has and he has progressed,
he is a good player.

Speaker 1 (38:33):
And that is I'm telling you.

Speaker 2 (38:37):
The left tackle position is one that the value alone
of just having that be a box checked that you
don't have to worry about the value in that alone
is a starting point that gives you financial flexibility or
financial if you're the player that you go with that

(38:58):
and say, look look at the number of teams around
the NFL that are looking still for a left tackle.
It is this town and this franchise I think have
been spoiled by the fact that you go essentially from
Tarak Glenn right to Anthony Costanzo and then essentially you know,
a bumpy transition and then into Bernard Ryman, and Ryman

(39:19):
looks like he is going to be a long term
pillar guy. And if he is, the value alone in
knowing that that is a position that you don't have
to further analyze or address ask other teams around the league.
And the more that he plays this year, and the
more that he plays at the level he's playing, you
are increasing the odds that elsewhere some franchise is going

(39:43):
to run into a situation be it did injury, due
to retirement, any number of things where they then are
in a situation where now they are back to the
drawing board on left tackle, and that is the one
of quarterback would be the hardest.

Speaker 1 (39:59):
But I think if you ask a lot of people.

Speaker 2 (40:00):
They would tell you that left tackle is one of
the five hardest positions in the NFL to find long
term stability and replacement. And if Bernard Rayman is playing
at a continued level that we have seen before going
into this season and through this season, and you start,
you allow him yet another opportunity to showcase himself, that

(40:22):
price tag ain't going down. The only way, the only
way that Bernard Ryman's value decreases between now and whenever
the Colts decide to side him is if he's injured.
And in that case, it doesn't help anybody that there's
no you know, I mean, then you're back to square one. Anyway,
I think you lock him in now because his value

(40:43):
is only going to increase.

Speaker 1 (40:46):
It's only going to increase.

Speaker 2 (40:47):
And obviously if he has a career ending injury, then
you know, that's one of those things that exists in
football that threat that risk. But by the way, my
computer here, Eddie, and I think this might mean it's incorrect.
My computer says it's fifty three degrees outside. Now that
that's not right, right, I think that's Celsius. I think
I think that's Celsius. Pretty sure it still thinks I'm
in Manchester, That's what it is. It still thinks I'm

(41:09):
in Manchester and that's celsius. It's not even humidity. That's
not even humidity percentage. So Stephanie White.

Speaker 3 (41:14):
If it was fifty five celsius outside, you would be
in one hundred and thirty one degree fahrenheit.

Speaker 2 (41:20):
That's about right then, right, I think that's right. That's
exactly what it is. The heatn' next heaten next. I
don't know if you know this or not. He did next
today one sixty one? Did you know that it feels
like that?

Speaker 1 (41:33):
Now?

Speaker 2 (41:33):
Temperature is just simply a measurement of what the air
feels like. So I don't know how the temperature can
then have it feels like? How can you have it
feels like of what it feels like?

Speaker 3 (41:40):
You need to ask where your meteorologist friends, you know what.

Speaker 2 (41:44):
Stephanie White went to brue and they have a great
meteorology meteorology school.

Speaker 1 (41:47):
I'll ask her, do you think she'll know?

Speaker 3 (41:50):
Maybe I'll ask her.

Speaker 1 (41:52):
Stephanie White, head coach of the Fever next.

Speaker 2 (41:56):
Now, when we asked Fever head coach Stephanie White last week,
what artists you would like to hear again when we
bring her on, she said, Adele, but she actually thought
about her for two and a half minutes. So I
think that means that we're now out of options. So
do we just go back to what are we doing
at any next week? Do we go back to Kitty
Chesney again?

Speaker 1 (42:13):
Is that what we do?

Speaker 3 (42:14):
I'm not sure?

Speaker 2 (42:16):
Do we play the theme to Shawshank? We can't play Oasis? Right,
we know that we ruled that out. Okay, The Fever
in action tonight taking on Las Vegas. It is the
Stranger Things. Jersey return for the Fever tonight, joining us
now on the program. Head coach of the Fever, who
stand at twelve and twelve after dropping one to New
York in their last outing. Coach, I'm going to begin

(42:39):
with this before we get into basketball. I was just
saying I'd like to know and I'm going to trust
you now, when you were a student and basketball player
at Perdue, your major was what.

Speaker 9 (42:51):
Aviation for my first two years in college and then
communications my last two years.

Speaker 1 (42:57):
Okay, so aviation is Perdue? Is I mean? It goes
without saying right?

Speaker 2 (43:01):
I mean, you've got two of the most famous aviators
in world history, both from Purdue. When you were in aviation,
did you have to take any sort of like meteorology
classes or science of the atmosphere type classes.

Speaker 6 (43:13):
Absolutely did.

Speaker 9 (43:14):
Yes, we had to take meteorology. We had to take
all of that.

Speaker 10 (43:17):
Had had to learn about engines too.

Speaker 9 (43:19):
In fact, I had to take apart and put together
a car engine so I could figure out how the
engines worked with all the pistons and everything else.

Speaker 10 (43:27):
And so it was.

Speaker 9 (43:28):
It was quite comprehensive, not just you know, touching goes
when you're taking off and landing in airplanes.

Speaker 2 (43:34):
So do you know the reason I ask, do you
have any idea within any sort of ballpark of accuracy
how you translate celsius to fahrenheit temperatures?

Speaker 9 (43:43):
Absolutely not, because you know, we learned it in the
We learned it in the American fahrenheit back in the old.

Speaker 11 (43:50):
Days, of course.

Speaker 2 (43:52):
And you know, I go over, like I went to
England for that concert, and they're like, now dress appropriately,
it's going to be thirty one fahrenheit. I'm like, wow,
it's freezing. Find out it's one hundred and ten. I
have no idea. So my point being right now outside
or you know, or they said thirty one celsius and
that's like, you know, I mean, I don't know what
that translates to, but it was hot, right, So I'm
assuming right now it's very high and celsius because it

(44:13):
is very warm. But let's get to engines and talking
about that. There is a big question mark in regards
to one of the most important pistons within the engine
of the fever, that of Caitlin Clark.

Speaker 1 (44:23):
Where do we stand? What is the ladies?

Speaker 2 (44:25):
You can tell us on what she has learned in
seeking medical opinion about the injury she's dealing with.

Speaker 10 (44:31):
I see what you did there too? That was that
was really good.

Speaker 1 (44:35):
That's the second part. That's that communication. So I know that.

Speaker 2 (44:39):
See I got into the communication aspect of the degree
also there right.

Speaker 12 (44:43):
You did? You did?

Speaker 10 (44:44):
It's it was pretty good.

Speaker 9 (44:47):
But no new no new information outside of what we
what we thought with when she went to see the doctor.

Speaker 10 (44:54):
I mean, everything is pretty much.

Speaker 9 (44:56):
On bar with just aggravation of that right groin, and
you know right now there's there's no timetable for a return.

Speaker 10 (45:03):
I think one of the things that's so important.

Speaker 9 (45:05):
Is because there have been multiple soft tissue injuries, is
that we make sure number one that that she's she's
fully healed, comfortable, confident when she comes back. And number
two that that we we take our time. I know
she wants to play, I know we want her to play,
but there have been multiple setbacks, you know, to this point.
So I want to just make sure that that that

(45:26):
we we give it it's it's due, and give it
it's it's it's time to heal as she continues to rehab, recovers, strength, train,
and build endurance again for when that return to play.

Speaker 10 (45:38):
Timetable comes about.

Speaker 2 (45:40):
When you were seeking more opinion, coach, were you, in
other words, when you heard back that there was kind
of nothing new to report? Was that a good thing
or a bad thing? In other words, is there a
frustration of not knowing exactly what it is? Or was
there a relief of knowing that it was not more
complex than you might have thought?

Speaker 4 (46:00):
Yeah?

Speaker 10 (46:00):
I mean, I think always when you're an athlete or just.

Speaker 9 (46:04):
A human being, right, you want to have more than
than one or two opinions, particularly when your body.

Speaker 10 (46:10):
Is your is your you know, vessel, it's your it's
what you do for your profession.

Speaker 9 (46:14):
And so you know, making sure that that she making
sure that she got multiple opinions from you know, some
of the best in the business, and and I think
it's a relief to know that there's nothing worse that
what you had had anticipated, at least I'm speaking from
from you know, my perspective. I would never speak for Caitlin,
but I also think there's there with self fissue injuries,
there's always a little bit of frushration because it's never

(46:38):
one thing or another. You know, when you when you
sprain an ankle or when you have another injury, that's
that's pretty cut and dry. You have a clear timetable,
you understand uh what you're dealing with and how you
attack that process. And with self tissue injuries, they're so complex,
they're so frustrating and and and challenging, and they really
do just continue to nag until you have that time

(46:59):
to shed it down.

Speaker 2 (47:00):
From your perspective, and again I'm not asking you to
speak for Caitlin Clark, but from your perspective, Stepanie White,
you know, as an athlete, how do you think she's doing,
just in terms of the frustration, the timeline and everything
that goes into dealing with something that she did not
have to deal with a lot in college, and that
is this navigating through missing time.

Speaker 10 (47:23):
Yeah, sure, it's frustration.

Speaker 9 (47:25):
You know, every competitor wants to be out there on
the floor doing what they love, you know.

Speaker 10 (47:29):
Certainly, I know that.

Speaker 9 (47:31):
You know, and and and to be able to do it,
you know, at a high level and feeling comfortable and
confident in your body and.

Speaker 10 (47:38):
What you can do. So I'm sure that there's frustration,
you know.

Speaker 9 (47:42):
I'm also sure that there's frustration dealing with multiple times,
you know, and and adding to that having All Star
in Indianapolis and not.

Speaker 10 (47:49):
Being able to participate.

Speaker 9 (47:51):
But you know, at the same time, being an athlete,
you know, you understand that there are times where this
is going to happen. Injuries happened, setbacks happen, you know.
Fortunately for Caitlyn, she hasn't experienced a lot of injury
and a lot of set back. Fortunately for her, she
also has a staff full of players who have experienced
a lot of injuries, between myself and Breon January and

(48:12):
Kareema Christmas Kelly, and so you know, we're our ability
to help her navigate through the highs and lows of
what it means to rehab, recover and the frustrations of
you know, being in and out of the lineup and
on the floor fever.

Speaker 2 (48:27):
Back in action tonight taking on Las Vegas. Stephanie White,
their head coach, is our guest here on Quari and Company.
You come off of after getting to the five hundred mark,
dropping back to back to New York. In terms of
that particular matchup, what things can you learn from that
in terms of what the Liberty were able to do
or areas where you fell short. That are areas that
you look at and say, okay, learning example here that

(48:51):
we need to take away from this is blank.

Speaker 9 (48:53):
That would be what I think first and foremost. You
know there you can't the margin for aer small. You know,
we had about a for for for thirty four thirty
five minutes of that ball game. They we were really good,
and against teams like New York, you know, you can't
afford to have those those four to five minute stretches

(49:14):
where you struggle because they're so dangerous. I mean, they've
got like six Olympians on that team, you know, from
various various countries around the world, and and their depth
and their ability.

Speaker 10 (49:23):
To play inside and outside.

Speaker 9 (49:26):
You know, with John Quell Jones returning, especially, so you
can't afford to have those lapses.

Speaker 10 (49:30):
You know, we the last two minutes.

Speaker 9 (49:31):
Two and a half minutes of the third quarter, they
went on a nine to ozer run and they were
able to carry that over into the first two and
a half three minutes of the of the fourth quarter.
And against those teams that that just puts you in
a bond, put you in a hole. And and you know,
that's again a growing.

Speaker 10 (49:46):
Area for our team.

Speaker 9 (49:47):
You know, they've got world champions and lectal champions on
their teams, so they understand those those moments, and we've
got to continue to grow through those and shorten those.
We know, teams are good. New York is one of
the best. Obviously there were there were w NBA Championship
champion a year ago. But we've got to be able
to find ways to navigate runs and to minimize runs.

Speaker 1 (50:07):
You know, you've got a good roster obviously.

Speaker 2 (50:09):
I mean it goes without saying, and I think Aery McDonald,
as you've talked about, has been a really good pickup
for you guys. That Leah Boston's played well, Kelsey Mitchell
goes without saying.

Speaker 1 (50:17):
But Caitlin Clark is so important coaching. We know that.

Speaker 2 (50:21):
Okay, from a coaching standpoint, how do you kind of
navigate through making sure that you have a group that
is aware of the fact that they have a job
to do even without one of those pistons, while at
the same time knowing that when that piston comes back,
you have to immediately and the time is running out
on the acclamation period. So how do you keep the

(50:42):
focus there within the group that is playing well.

Speaker 9 (50:45):
I mean, we talk about control and the things that
we can control. And this is a group who won
the Commissioner's Cup, you know, while Kaitlyn.

Speaker 10 (50:52):
Was not able to play.

Speaker 9 (50:53):
It's a group who found a little bit of groove,
you know during that timeframe, understanding what it takes, you know,
being able to continue to to play confident. You know,
I thought there was a stretch there in that game
against against New York where we passed up open shots,
we second guests a little bit in ways that that
we we shouldn't and and and couldn't, you know. So

(51:13):
making sure we stay confident in one another, stay confident
in our process, say, connected with one another, knowing knowing
that we have pieces that it that it takes to
to be able to be successful and put ourselves in
position for success. And then when Caitlyn comes back, you know,
it's the reacclamation period. The thing about about bringing Caitlyn
Caitlin back and losing Caitlyn in the lineup is that
she's got the ball in her hands a lot. Uh

(51:34):
So the things that we run, the way that the
ball moves, the attack from defenses is different, and and
and our looks on the floor are different. Her gravity
is so great that that it changes the dynamics of
how teams play us and and what we what we
tend to get. And so that is the single toughest
thing with her in and out of the lineup. But

(51:56):
you know, we have the pieces that have found success,
and you know, just being able to stay confident throughout
the ebbs and flows of a game is important.

Speaker 2 (52:04):
As a competitor. Stephanie White, our guest head coach of
the Indiana Fever. As a competitor, Stephanie, when you look
back at your career, whether it be as a player
or a coach, I think one thing is that one
thing that makes all elite level athletes you know the same,
is just the competitive nature and focus. When you look

(52:24):
at yourself. Would you say that you were more driven
by chasing the feeling of the top of competition or
by learning from and never letting go of your failure.

Speaker 9 (52:40):
I think probably the never letting go of the failure,
because if you ask most competitors, those are the ones
that they remember. You know, you don't remember a lot
of the wins. Heck, sometimes you don't even remember the
championships unless they're the big ones. Like if you ask
me about conference championships in college, I don't really remember,

(53:00):
but the but the national championship is the one I do.
But I remember the game where I had a double
double and one of them was turnovers and I didn't
make the game where I didn't make a field goal
at Notre Dame my junior year, you know, or the
game where I had eight turnovers my freshman year when
we were playing in Vegas tournament. You know, you remember
the negative stuff, You remember the failures, you remember the setbacks,
and that drives you to be better, at least for me.

Speaker 10 (53:22):
Uh, you know, that's what it was.

Speaker 9 (53:24):
And when you chase, when you chase success and you
chase titles and you chase all of that, I mean,
that's that's ultimately, you know, it's it's the end game, it's.

Speaker 10 (53:31):
What you dream of.

Speaker 9 (53:32):
But ultimately, you're chasing the best version of yourself. You're
chasing that elusive perfection that you're never going to get.
You're chasing growth. You're chasing being better than you were
the last game, or being better than you were.

Speaker 10 (53:46):
The previous year.

Speaker 9 (53:48):
You know. The result of that oftentimes ends up being
championships or individual awards or whatever it may be. But
it's the drive to be the best that you can
be that you chase, and it's fueled the failures that
you've had along the way.

Speaker 2 (54:03):
Have you had games where your team won but you
felt like it was a failure because they didn't do
something that needed to be worked on.

Speaker 10 (54:11):
Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 9 (54:12):
I think a prime example of that is our last
Dallas game, and we were up big in the first half,
and we came out in the second half and and
just kind of played the game. You know, I felt
like that was an opportunity for us to really learn
what it meant to stay sharp, to not play the score.
They may have even outscored us by a couple in
the second half.

Speaker 2 (54:29):
You know.

Speaker 9 (54:30):
The last I think four or five minutes of the
ball game wasn't as sharp and crisp as it needed
to be, you know. And that's that's the growth process
of a team that.

Speaker 10 (54:37):
Hasn't won championships.

Speaker 9 (54:38):
Right. It's like you have to approach the game, the
possession the same way, no matter what in ways that
you see the New York, the Minnesota, you know doing,
the Vegas is doing. And I think that's again a
growth process for our game. And you know, I always
always say this, and I know it sounds cliche, but
it's true. It's there's no substitute for experience. And when

(54:59):
you I haven't experienced that at this level, you have
to grow through it. You have to learn it. It's
not something that's just in a in most players.

Speaker 2 (55:10):
You know, the Stephanie White is our coach of course,
or our guests, I should say, the coach for the
INDIANAF or our coach as well for the Indiana Fever. Tonight,
back in action, taking on Las Vegas and getting back
into things. So you would like to see what tonight
obviously a win, but coming off of a now twelve
and twelve, the big thing that you want to see
that is going to show you that things are indeed

(55:32):
coming off the right direction, coming off the two losses
to New York.

Speaker 10 (55:35):
Would be what I want to see us with our
defensive execution.

Speaker 9 (55:38):
I want our defensive execution to be lead, our point
of attack, our disruption. I want them to feel us,
you know, nothing easy. I want to make sure that
we make them work for everything that they.

Speaker 10 (55:47):
Get, that they take the shots that we're willing to
live with.

Speaker 9 (55:50):
And I want to see us take care of the ball,
gives ourselves opportunities for high quality shots, and make sure
that we're that we value every possession.

Speaker 1 (56:00):
White Head coach Indiana Fever. All right.

Speaker 2 (56:01):
Lastly, and most importantly, next time that we have a
conversation with you. We've done Kenny Chesney, we've done Adell.
What's next?

Speaker 10 (56:08):
I think we got to go Jimmy Buffett.

Speaker 1 (56:11):
All right, No way, we can't go. Here's the thing, though.

Speaker 2 (56:15):
We can't go Cheeseburger and Paradise or margart Reedville because
that's too obvious.

Speaker 12 (56:18):
Right, you have it, Come Monday.

Speaker 10 (56:21):
Let's go come Monday.

Speaker 1 (56:23):
All right, fair enough, we can do that one. We
can do.

Speaker 2 (56:27):
Jimmy Buffett is one of those you mentioned it we
talked about earlier. I mean, it is a It was,
I should say, a fabulous concert. And didn't everybody in
college at some point go through a phase where somebody
just had like the Jimmy Buffet's greatest hits, and everybody
thought it was new and you didn't realize you were
listening stuff from fifteen years ago.

Speaker 12 (56:41):
You know what I mean, no doubt, exactly, no question.

Speaker 2 (56:45):
Back in the days when you were taking apart engines
and putting them back together.

Speaker 1 (56:48):
I like it.

Speaker 2 (56:49):
And now of course trying to get that engine fine
tuned for the Indiana Fever tonight against Las Vegas.

Speaker 1 (56:54):
Coach appreciated.

Speaker 2 (56:55):
All right, all right, thanks shake all right, Stephanie White
joining us on the program, and again to re cap
the big news off the top. There no new information
learn about the injury of Kaitlin Clark in terms of
the other opinions medically speaking, and no necessarily new way
in which going about things. In other words, that they

(57:15):
know no more in terms of a time frame of
her return.

Speaker 1 (57:20):
Eddie, we talked about it.

Speaker 2 (57:21):
You of course will be on the pregame and post
game broadcast tonight.

Speaker 1 (57:24):
For the Indiana Fever.

Speaker 2 (57:27):
And one of the things I think becomes a challenge
is just trying to figure out exactly when you then
kind of say to yourself, this is who we're going
to have to now just defer to who we are
without Caitlin Clark, because you want her on the floor, obviously,
but you've got to still use this particular group and
find the ways that this group plays without her, But

(57:49):
you don't necessarily want to completely focus moving forward on
being a Caitlin Clark less team. I think that balance,
Eddie is one of the things that's tough.

Speaker 3 (57:58):
I thought they took a step in the right direct
in that game against the Liberty because even though they
lose the game, they were in control of it for
the first two and a half quarters and then things
kind of shifted in the final you know, four minutes
of the third and certainly at the start of the
fourth quarter, and it felt like they had figured things
out and then they just kind of hit a loll
and that was the role where they could have used

(58:19):
the Caitlyn Clark. And I believe this group because it's
a lot of veteran type players. You've got Aliah Boston,
Sophie Cunningham, Kelsey Mitchell, Natasha Howard, et cetera. Where they
can learn from these mistakes and these shortcomings to better
them in the future, just because that is how things
are going to have to be the time right now,
and you got to find a way to string together
some wins to improve your playoff positioning. So when Caitlin

(58:41):
Clark does come back, you can pick up right where
you left off.

Speaker 2 (58:44):
Yeah, the look very very important piece, no question about that.
And again I go back to the one thing, and
there is a bit of a timeline that goes on
with this.

Speaker 1 (58:55):
The one thing that I kind of hope.

Speaker 2 (58:57):
In all of this is that if you are the fever,
you look at it and you say, if we're getting
everybody else involved and we're playing without Caitlin Clark, then
when she comes back, you can still continue with that
same modus operandi as long as she is coming in
as facilitator. First, isn't that a word modus operandi? Did

(59:18):
I say that incorrectly?

Speaker 3 (59:19):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (59:19):
I just haven't heard that before, Eddie.

Speaker 2 (59:23):
I was an English major in college, which means when
you're an English major, one of two things can.

Speaker 1 (59:30):
Very well said.

Speaker 2 (59:32):
Actually a good point, because I was an English major,
and then towards the end there I had to switch
because to have an English degree you had to have
eight semesters of foreign language, and I had four semesters
of Spanish, and then I had three semesters of Swahili
and it was no longer offered so I could So
I would have had to go back and redo and
start all over again with the second foreign language. And

(59:54):
you can guess what the odds of that were. So
I had to switch the major in order to complete
my degree and graduate. But that's why, kids, you don't
take a thirty one year delay in the process. But
as an English major, one thing I've learned you can
use words every once in a while that people are
unfamiliar with, and if you make up words or say
them in correctly, you get benefit of that out because
you're an.

Speaker 1 (01:00:12):
English major, right I guess. So yeah, So having said that, you.

Speaker 2 (01:00:19):
It feels to me like if you just go on
and say we're going to play under the assumption that
we're not going to have Caitlin Clark for a while,
and then when she does return, you have her return
as the point guard facilitator to simply continue running the
engine as it's been running, and then you start to
allow her to get her shots and get her offensively

(01:00:41):
her scoring aspect of it. If you just air drop
her back in as a scorer when you have a
group that has been scoring without her, then I think
that's where it becomes more complicated, if that makes sense
what I'm saying. I again, we are at Colts Camp
Grand Park up in Westfield. It is I will admit
it's not. It doesn't feel as bad because there's a
breeze now, but it is definitely warm outside. And I

(01:01:04):
want to remind everybody. Uh, and let you know, if
you're watching on the YouTube and we thank you for
doing so, are.

Speaker 3 (01:01:09):
You gonna smile at the camera and uh, hey.

Speaker 1 (01:01:12):
God, here you go? You ready position yourself? This is
it's radio, so not very many people can see this.

Speaker 2 (01:01:16):
But if you're watching later on, and we hope that
you do watching on the YouTube, you ready.

Speaker 1 (01:01:21):
Oh yeah, yeah, there you go.

Speaker 2 (01:01:23):
Uh, this looks like I'm getting ready to down a
bottle of tequila.

Speaker 1 (01:01:26):
It totally looks that way. And you said today's National
Tequila Day.

Speaker 3 (01:01:29):
It is indeed it is.

Speaker 2 (01:01:30):
Indeed, this is just good old artesian water. That means
it's out of a well somewhere. I don't know where
I've always thought that it would would it be illegal
to do this? Could you just start bottling water out
of your faucet and come up with a company and
sell it? Oh?

Speaker 1 (01:01:49):
My, would abody?

Speaker 3 (01:01:52):
You would have put the ingredients on it, wouldn't you?

Speaker 1 (01:01:54):
H two O two hydrogen? Whate oxygen? What ingredients? And
what else is there to tapwater?

Speaker 8 (01:01:58):
Well?

Speaker 1 (01:01:58):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:01:59):
Water's all the I don't know if the FDA would
approve of that?

Speaker 1 (01:02:03):
Why not?

Speaker 2 (01:02:03):
I mean the FDA allows you to drink it at home, right,
I don't think it that's fluoride in anymore?

Speaker 1 (01:02:07):
Does it?

Speaker 2 (01:02:07):
Didn't we take that out? H two? That's all you
need literally, just just you just put it right there
in the tap. Tell people it's from the flowing springs
of Meridian. Kessler, who knows the difference?

Speaker 1 (01:02:21):
Right?

Speaker 3 (01:02:21):
We got going on in the background there I sounds
that we've got some hammering and nails going on.

Speaker 1 (01:02:25):
There is I am in it?

Speaker 2 (01:02:27):
Okay to set the scene here at Grand Park and Westfield,
if you have been for Colts Camp, you obviously have
the main practice field. The north end of that practice
field in the end zone. Just behind the end zone
is a row there are I believe, four rather large tents.
Those tents have the front side of it opens up

(01:02:49):
towards the field. The backside of it, if you so choose,
you can close that and then the people that are
behind on Touchdowntown can't see across into the practice field.
We have both areas open for the obvious reason because,
like I mentioned earlier, I am Matt Damon and the Martian.

Speaker 1 (01:03:03):
It's one hundred and sixty two degrees here, and just beside.

Speaker 2 (01:03:07):
Me there is one other tent, and the vinyl paneling
of that tent in the wind is slapping against the
tent that I'm in.

Speaker 1 (01:03:14):
Okay, that's Casey Valier.

Speaker 3 (01:03:16):
Matt Taylor returned and they were just trying to put
that table together that they picked up and carried out.

Speaker 2 (01:03:21):
Casey Valuer and Matt Taylor indeed about an hour ago,
picked up their table and simply left. Now, Casey Valier,
I'm watching right now, he is leaving all together. He
is packed up, he's got all this stuff. There are
two areas of motion right now at Grand Park. One
is Casey Valier leaving the practice facility. The other is
the truck that is coming and changing out the Portalts.
It's got two up on the back. I'm hoping that

(01:03:42):
there are no potholes that would be ugly. And Matt
Taylor is here, and Matt Taylor is actually going to
join us. Coming up just about five minutes from now,
we will get you caught up on everything that's been
going on at Colt's camp. We'll get Matt Taylor's reaction
and thoughts on this day number two of practice. There
was one player that continues to kind of shine. There
was one player that shows a little bit of inconsistency

(01:04:03):
and had a hiccup today. There is one player that
earlier told us that even though he is in a
contract year, things are getting interesting because his agent tells
him that he and the Colts are not on the
same page quote end quote, and that from a numbers standpoint,
they are not close. I'm talking about Bernard Ryman, who

(01:04:24):
made that comment to us just before the show began today.
We aired that interview come at about twelve thirty that
is available in podcast format one oh seventy five to
fan dot com. But Bernard Ryman, when I asked him
about the contract status and being in a contract year,
and he said, I let someone else deal with that,
but it is my understanding is, and I'm paraphrasing, that

(01:04:44):
we are not close. And I said, I'm sorry. He said,
we are not on the same page. That's what it was.
We are not on the same page. I then immediately
defer back in my mind to the situation with Ryan
Kelly a year ago where Chris Ballard made it very
clear during camp that they did not want to have
that new go pociation at that time, but would rather
table that discussion. Obviously, you saw that Ryan Kelly. They

(01:05:04):
decided to go in another direction at the center position.
I cannot foresee any way, shape or form that the
Colts are looking to go on to any other situation
at left tackle other than Bernard Ryman. So I asked him,
do you mean that when you say you're not on
the same page, that they're not willing to have that
conversation right now? Or do you mean the numbers are

(01:05:25):
not the same And he said, I mean the numbers
are not close. So that's where things stand with Bernard Ryman.
Matt Taylor is the voice of the Colts. I think
he's still here a corralum and we'll talk to him next.
It is in fact, Tequila Day, National Tequila Day, apparently
big news of the day. And I'm not drinking tequila.

(01:05:48):
It's bottled water that looks like it's in a tequila bottle.
But I can even show you it says artists and
water right there. I didn't like put it, you know,
Quervo in there, just but nonetheless important to stay hydrated
on a hot day like today. Some of the big
news items from the day. If you are just joining
the show, thank you, Eddie. Stephanie White mentioned earlier that
Caitlin Clark there is no new update after getting various

(01:06:10):
opinions on her injury, no update on her status. In
addition to that, other news that is of note, Hulk
Hogan passing away today, that news coming out, and that's
obviously a big one within the American pop culture landscape,
certainly of the eighties. I think his star really launched
when he was Thunderlips in Rocky three in nineteen eighty two,

(01:06:32):
and then, of course it goes without saying, when he
beat the Iron Chic in professional wrestling, got the belt,
and it became not just a wrestling star but a
pop cultural icon in reality, television, politics, all of it
Hulk Hogan passing away. We are at Colts Camp Grand
Park in Westfield. Practice number two is in the books.
Matt Taylor is the radio voice that the Indianapolis Colts.

(01:06:53):
Joins us here and Matt will begin simply with this,
and that is we talked yesterday and practice number one
of some of the things that we saw, things that
jumped out at you today and practice number two.

Speaker 13 (01:07:05):
Yeah, I think I think it's pretty clear that the
defense is probably ahead of the offense. They certainly took
advantage of the offense at times today, and that's to
be expected because.

Speaker 11 (01:07:15):
You know, you're putting in a new scheme.

Speaker 13 (01:07:17):
Yes, but there's also a lot of continuity on that
side of the ball. The offense is changing out the quarterbacks.
You know, there's this switch up between Anthony Richardson and
Daniel Jones. But it's pretty clear to me early on
through two days that you can already start to see
the defensive schematic change on that side of the ball.

(01:07:37):
The secondary is sticky, a lot of press man to
man and just to put it.

Speaker 11 (01:07:43):
Simply, Sharparius Ward is going to be really good.

Speaker 2 (01:07:46):
Can I actually ask you, Matt, and I apologize for
this but in all honesty, when I'm going to do
this for people that are listening that maybe you're not
the every day, every moment NFL fans, which I think
the vast majority p BLL are. Okay, but when you
hear a defense that is quote press man the man
versus say a cover two or a zone coverage, can

(01:08:08):
you explain? You know, your wife's a teacher, right yep?
Used to be what's that used to be? Yeah, well
before you became the voice of the calls. Let's be real.

Speaker 11 (01:08:17):
I mean she needed she needed to change.

Speaker 2 (01:08:20):
No, I understand, But but if you were to talk
to her class and explain to them what you mean
when you say press man and sticky you mean what?

Speaker 11 (01:08:28):
Well?

Speaker 13 (01:08:28):
The Colts have notorious the last couple of UH seasons
under two different regimes defensively Matt Eberflus and Gus Bradley.
They've been heavy zone defense. And what they're trying to
do is make life more difficult for the opposing quarterback
and to make those throwing lanes, decrease those and get

(01:08:51):
more hands on the football. So by press man to man,
it's your your man up on. You know your you're
you're in charge of a guy instead of an area
man on man, and you're up on them at the
line of scrimmage, and you're trying to what we used
to call when I played reroute a guy make you know,
if they're trying to hit their spot in the secondary,

(01:09:11):
trying to get to a certain place to make their
cut and make their break, you want to reroute them
to throw off the timing of the play. So rules wise,
you're allowed to be up on a guy within five
yards in a line of scrimmage.

Speaker 11 (01:09:24):
And guys are really good.

Speaker 13 (01:09:25):
At that, like Charvarius Ward I think Juju Brins can
really excel at that. Jalen Jones I think is getting
better at that. But they just haven't done a lot
of that in recent past.

Speaker 2 (01:09:36):
Because instead what they were doing was doing area by committee,
right of, Hey, I'm in charge of this square area
and then as soon as guy goes out of it,
then Matt comes over and he's in charge of that guy.

Speaker 1 (01:09:47):
Now.

Speaker 13 (01:09:47):
Yeah, a lot of zone coverage, a lot of Cover two,
a lot of Cover three under Gus Bradley, some cover
four as well. But to put it simply, they want
to make life more difficult for the opposition because it's
just been it's been frustrating.

Speaker 11 (01:10:02):
You and I have talked about this.

Speaker 13 (01:10:03):
The hallmarks of the defense the last couple of years
have been the other team's best player offensively, primarily skill
player wise at receiver have gone off against the Colts.
You know, going in when you play the Texans, you
got to stop Nico Collins. You know, when you play
the Jaguars twice a year, you got to stop Brian
Thomas Junior. And those guys are going over one hundred
yards and they're scoring touchdowns and they're making big plays.

(01:10:25):
So they want to be a little bit more games
specific within this defense, and they want to play more
press man. When you don't blitz as often as the
Colts did not under Gus Bradley, and you sit back
and you play zone defense behind it, it led to
the other team's quarterback completing right around seventy percent of
their throws for the season. Just too many easy throws,

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too many ways to get into a rhythm and build
timing and things like that throughout the course of the game.
So what they want to do is is get up
on receivers take them away. In the case of charveyreus Ward,
maybe he shadows a receiver and just completely follows that
guy no matter where he's lining up formationally. But at
the very least his addition takes away one half of

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the field in the secondary.

Speaker 2 (01:11:11):
What player defensively for the Colts Matt Taylor's voice of
the Colts is our guest. Here we're at Grand Park
practice number two in the books for the Colts. They
get back on the practice field tomorrow from ten until
roughly eleven fifteen.

Speaker 1 (01:11:23):
Is there a player that you look at.

Speaker 2 (01:11:25):
Matt defensively in a zone system that was a really
good player and now you have a big question mark
as to whether or not that transfers to them playing
more into a man coverage.

Speaker 11 (01:11:38):
No, I don't really.

Speaker 13 (01:11:39):
I mean it's a really good question, but I don't
think that, you know, the Colts had, for lack of
a better term, like specific zone guys and then they
have specific man demand guys.

Speaker 11 (01:11:49):
I do think bringing in.

Speaker 1 (01:11:51):
Do some defenses? Do you think do some franchises do
it that way?

Speaker 11 (01:11:54):
I don't know.

Speaker 13 (01:11:54):
That's a good question, don't I don't think so. I
think it's more of you know, this is so of
who we are. This is our scheme and we want
to be games specific, but we also don't want to
just change everything that we do from an implementation standpoint
within our scheme, if that makes sense. But I do
know talking with the guys individually, they're really excited to

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be able to be a little bit more aggressive. Take
things to the offense. Right, let's dictate terms to them
instead of maybe the other way around. So, I mean
I talked to Juju Brents in the offseason. He was
really excited, and he's perfect for this because he's long,
he's got long arms, he's got adequate speed. I think
he can really excel plan press Man War definitely can

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Jalen Jones can. I mean justin Wally based on what
we've seen so far, he can excel doing no matter
what scheme you have and no matter where you line
them up positionally, because he can play outside, you can
play insight too. So I do think personnel wise, the
Colts have the pieces in place to pull this off,
and they also want to the Skies. Things in the

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secondary line up different places and kind of cloud that
picture for the quarterback pre snap, just create a little
bit of a shadow of a doubt.

Speaker 1 (01:13:10):
You know, That's what they did when you take any
shadow we can get out.

Speaker 11 (01:13:13):
Here today we will, no question.

Speaker 13 (01:13:15):
But I mean that's that's what Cincinnati did when they
were humming. You know, when they went to the AFC
Championship Game two years in a row advance to the
Super Bowl, they were able to beat Patrick Mahomes just
by clouding that picture just enough pre snap at the
line of scrimmage, by you know, rolling a different way
or lining up a different spot, or bringing a guy
or dropping a guy back. So they made it a

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big emphasis in the off season to bringing guys that
can do that, that have experience, that are savvy, and
they're more playmakers.

Speaker 2 (01:13:45):
Now, wait a minute, I'm curious. Here you have a
training camp. It says training camp official here credential. Yeah,
it's at the Big Colts fancy landyard. Yeah, mine just
says training camp media. Now, what's the difference. What makes
you official in me?

Speaker 1 (01:13:56):
Media?

Speaker 13 (01:13:57):
Well, I do know that's got me in the suite
the other day, So maybe that's the difference. I was
able to walk up the stairs say how Yeah, I
was able to say hi to your guy Mark James
yesterday he was up with the suite.

Speaker 11 (01:14:07):
I don't know, he's got connection what's going on here?
He was out there with a lance shive and I.

Speaker 1 (01:14:11):
Went to the Portland was locked.

Speaker 11 (01:14:14):
What's the difference?

Speaker 2 (01:14:15):
That's what we're solving all kinds of problems here, right,
I'm official to go to the bathroom, and you're you're
obviously getting the man press credential, and I'm trying to
walk around here in his own right.

Speaker 1 (01:14:27):
You're, yeah, you're I'm old news.

Speaker 11 (01:14:29):
Yesterday's still a lot of grass around here.

Speaker 6 (01:14:31):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:14:31):
Hey, I'm curious of this, and I don't know how
to word this, so you tell me if this makes sense.

Speaker 1 (01:14:36):
I've thought a lot about this quarterback situation.

Speaker 2 (01:14:39):
And I think we know that the ceiling for Anthony
Richardson maybe is higher than the ceiling for Daniel Jones.
Or maybe we have a better idea of the ceiling
of Daniel Jones, because he's been able to show that
a little bit with New York before he came here.
But even though I realized this is a legitimate open
quarterback competition, it feels to me like Anniel Jones can't

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necessarily win the competition. It's rather he wins it only
if Anthony Richardson loses. And does that make sense? Like,
you defer to Jones as your fallback in case the
guy that you have handed the keys to very early
on and has all the tools doesn't take advantage of that.

Speaker 13 (01:15:21):
Yeah, I get what you're saying. You know, this to
me all goes back to the whole idea of a
quarterback competition. And they really announced this to the world
at the Combine. And I remember being on radio row
at the Combine and talking to national people, and there
was a lot of people that we interviewed and had
on our airwaves that were critical of this, like this
whole concept of if anything, Anthony Richardson just needs more

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time on task.

Speaker 11 (01:15:45):
You know why he's.

Speaker 13 (01:15:46):
Been injured and you know you've taken him off the
field because of lack of preparation issues or just there's
a little bit of a disconnect in terms of getting
ready for games, you know, Monday through Saturday, whatever they can.

Speaker 11 (01:16:00):
He's just missed a lot of time on the field.

Speaker 13 (01:16:02):
And some people were like, why bring in another quarterback
to take valuable reps away from him in the spring
and in training camp when all he does is need reps.
He needs more experience. And I get that, I really do.
I think that's a fair argument. But on the other hand,
I agree with what the cults are doing in this situation.

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In that listen, man, you've missed the playoffs four years.

Speaker 11 (01:16:27):
In a row.

Speaker 13 (01:16:28):
It's time to go right. You haven't won a division
since twenty fourteen. Every other team in your division's won
at least twice, haven't won a playoff game since twenty eighteen. Like,
there's a lot of urgency. And this is the NFL.
It stands for not for long and quite frankly, jobs
are on the line. Everybody knows that. So what are
you gonna do with Anthony Richardson? Are you just gonna

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hope that it works out or do you need to
have competition for him in order to push him to
become a better player, but also too to have an
insurance package because he's missed you know, he's played less
than half of his available starts available to him, I
should say, in his first two years, So you have
to have Daniel Jones in here to compete and push him.

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But also if Richardson continues to get hurt, a guy
that can play and has played at a high level
in Spurts so far in his NFL career.

Speaker 2 (01:17:21):
I want to ask you about a couple of guys
that have jumped out so far in this camp, but
we got to squeeze one in real quick.

Speaker 1 (01:17:27):
Do you squeeze in a break real quick? Do you
got time to stick around for fifteen more minutes?

Speaker 11 (01:17:30):
Absolutely right?

Speaker 2 (01:17:30):
I want to talk to Matt Taylor about a couple
of guys that I think have jumped out a little
bit here, and maybe some that we're waiting to jump start,
even though it's only been two practices. We'll do it
other side as we return to Grand Park, Colts Camp,
day number two. Here quan company on the fan. It
is indeed great balls a fire out here. We should
probably play the whole Cogan theme at some point a
couple of times too today in honor of Hull Cogan

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passing away. If you were just joining us, that news
coming out just as we were going on today, Matt
Taylor back.

Speaker 1 (01:17:58):
With us here.

Speaker 2 (01:17:59):
We're at Colts Camp, Grand Park up in Westfield, day
number two in the books.

Speaker 1 (01:18:03):
All right, let me throw a couple of guys. You
tell me what jumped out?

Speaker 2 (01:18:05):
Okay from the get go, I mean from the very
get go, and we interviewed him right, after the draft,
and I thought he was a fun interview. But Justin
Wally appears to be a guy that, at least off field,
Chris Ballard and the Colt Sprass are very high on yep.
Has that translated to him getting opportunity here on field?

Speaker 1 (01:18:21):
Oh?

Speaker 13 (01:18:21):
Definitely with that question. No, Kenny Moore today. I don't
know if it was a rest day or.

Speaker 2 (01:18:25):
What, but Kenny Moore was one of four veterans that
did a rest day. Those four that did not practice
day Diforest, Buckner, Taekwon Lewis, Kenny Moore, and Braden Smith.

Speaker 13 (01:18:34):
There you go, but it's pretty clear through two days.
And then you couple this with what we saw in
the spring. Justin Wally is he's made a really good
first impression. They trust him with a lot of stuff.
Versatility wise, he's playing outside, he's playing inside, doesn't appear
too big for him. And it's just a classic case
of just be ready for anything and when opportunity comes,

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you have to seize it. And during the spring, Juju
Brince was dealing with something minor, Jalen Jones was dealing
with something minor. Here comes Justin Wally and OTAs out
there with the first team defense, he's you know, banging around,
clanging around on Michael Pittman Junior gets his hands on
the ball, it takes it away from Josh Downs in
a drill back in the spring, and he just parlayed

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that right into intermixing with the first team defense right
away here at the beginning of training camp. And I
just go back to Draft night, you know, day two
of the draft, Jake. I don't know if you subscribe to,
you know, all the Draft Knicks stuff. I try to
read a lot, so nothing to me is total gospel.
But depending on what you read on justin Wally, coming

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out of the draft, he was either going to be
a third round pick, a late day two guy, or
he could be an early day three guy, or some
had him as like a round six, round seven. And
the Colts were pretty honest with like, we don't really
care what other people say. We were going to draft
him where we had him slotted, and we thought about
taking him higher compared to where they did in the
third round. And I'm pair of phrasing here, but Chris

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Ballard said, I couldn't stand the thought of losing this guy.
I don't think I could have slept draft night, missing
out on a chance to draft Justin Wally. So they're
that high on him. So it's pretty clear right away
that he's he's gonna have a role. Tyler Warren, you know,
Jim Bob Cooter said today, and I think it's pretty accurate,
Like once we get the pads on, you're gonna see

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Tyler Warren start to come alive a little bit. Not
that he's not making an impact already, but you're gonna
see that physicality and that versatility really start to shine
once you start putting the pads on and things ramp up.

Speaker 2 (01:20:33):
In terms of strike you more as a Dallas Clark
across the middle end stride receiver or a Kobe Fleener
hybrid tight end that is more of a receiver.

Speaker 11 (01:20:42):
Yeah, definitely Dallas Clark. Yeah. I mean to me, he
reminds me of a guy.

Speaker 13 (01:20:46):
You know, I said this when he was drafted because
just watching his film, and I'll be honest with you,
I'll raise my hand like I didn't know who Tyler
Warren was this time last year, right, And I don't
think a lot of people did either, because he was
behind some really good players at Penn State and just
this past season, Like, I mean, who catches one hundred
passes as a tight end?

Speaker 11 (01:21:02):
Like it just it's everywhere everywhere.

Speaker 13 (01:21:04):
I mean, to me, my coming out party or my
enlightenment on Tyler Warren was that USC game. I'm down
in Tennessee getting ready to play the Titans. I'm in
a hotel in Nashville, just watching college football, and I
see that USC game where he lines up at center
and they do the double pass and then he goes
down the field and he catches that ball in the
end zone with two linebackers draped on him.

Speaker 11 (01:21:25):
I'm like, who the hell is this guy?

Speaker 13 (01:21:27):
He's got like fourteen catches in this game or something ridiculous.
So yeah, I think he reminds me of a guy
that could play in twenty twenty five or a guy
in nineteen seventy five. Like he's just that physically gifted.
He doesn't shy away from contact, and he's just that
athletic too.

Speaker 1 (01:21:44):
Okay. Daniel Jones.

Speaker 13 (01:21:45):
Daniel Jones, to me, he is looking like the Daniel
Jones who we saw back in OTAs. And the biggest
compliment I can give to him is that he back
in the spring did not look at all like a
guy who's been here only since March. Really good command
of the huddle, really good command of the playbook. And
we forget too that Daniel Jones twice in his career

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has completed over sixty five percent of his passes.

Speaker 11 (01:22:09):
If you have that level of completion percentage on this team.

Speaker 13 (01:22:12):
Some of that's rhythm passing, right, Yeah, a lot of it,
to be fair, has been short intermediate.

Speaker 1 (01:22:16):
But but you kind of want that, right, But where
did the colt struggle last year? Right? That's what I mean?

Speaker 13 (01:22:20):
Yeah, I mean, so if they would have had his
and I'm going to use this word and it's going
to sound like I'm slighting him, but I don't really
mean to at all. But if you would have had
his efficiency and his competence last year, I think they
win ten games.

Speaker 1 (01:22:33):
Okay lastly, and we got to do it quick.

Speaker 13 (01:22:35):
Anthony Richardson, Anthony, I think, you know quick today right
through an interception today, So you know yesterday had some
drops He's had you know, he suffered some drops by
his receivers that didn't do him any favors because you know, Jake, me,
everybody out here is keeping track of the completion present
of course, the completions versus attempts.

Speaker 11 (01:22:55):
So I mean, I think it's just listen, everybody's got
a job to.

Speaker 13 (01:22:59):
Do, and you know, you got to get clicks, and
there's there's so much content between now and the start.

Speaker 2 (01:23:04):
Doing a lot of that. Lately, Matt tells me you've
become like almost like a tailor swift.

Speaker 1 (01:23:08):
Ye, that's it. Yeah, and level of your you're an
influencer now, right, But I.

Speaker 13 (01:23:11):
Just mean, you're not really gonna know until you start
playing regular season games, even these preseason games, the picture
is going to be incomplete because you're not going up
against the live defense, you're not making checks in the
line of scrimmage one hundred percent of the time, things
like that. So I hate to say it, but you know,
we're not going to have a full picture on who
these guys are and which guy wins the quarterback job

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and the sustainability of that until we start playing regular
season games.

Speaker 1 (01:23:36):
Appreciate you sticking around late go.

Speaker 2 (01:23:39):
I'm sure with that new credential you've got there, you
can go up into the air conditioning switees now if
you'd like, right.

Speaker 11 (01:23:43):
I'll give you some more tequila.

Speaker 1 (01:23:45):
That's right.

Speaker 2 (01:23:45):
That's what tequila day, right, all right, Matt, I appreciate it, man,
my pleasure. Matt Taylor, Voice of the Colts. We'll go
back and talk a little college football. We did it
yesterday with Indiana and Boiler Up. We'll talk a little
predue next. Back in the day, when I worked at
the cigar store, Hardwick's Pipe and Tobacco, best job I've
ever had. All apologies and respect to the one that

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I currently hold, but it was a great job. And
on Friday nights, Gia Burns, whose younger sister Francy, was
a schoolmate of mine at North Central, but Gia Burns
did a jazz program on one of the local radio
stations that we would play that station in the store,
and every Friday night I would call it became kind
of a running gag and request that song from Chuck Mangioni.

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And news coming out today from his family confirming that
eighty five year old Chuck Manngoni passed away on I
believe Tuesday. But the announcement from the family coming today,
that is one of the great songs. Feels so good
from Chuck Mangioni. That reminds me of just like being
hauled around in the back of my mom's car.

Speaker 1 (01:24:49):
As a kid, and think of it every time.

Speaker 2 (01:24:52):
Puts you in a good place, So Chuck Man Joni
passing away though at the age of eighty five. Hulk
Hogan also that announcement earlier today, passing away joining us
now on the program. We are at Grand Park in Westfield.
You can hear they're actually mowing the field for colts camp.
Practice number two is in the books. But Big ten
Media Day is taking place out in Las Vegas. The

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only place on Earth. Actually, I take that back. Even
in Las Vegas, if they come to Indianapolis, they would
find it hot. Right now, If we went to Vegas,
I'd think, oh, that's great, so we turn on the
air conditioning. Tom Deenhart, our friend from Golden Black, is
out there talking Purdue football.

Speaker 1 (01:25:27):
Tom.

Speaker 2 (01:25:27):
I'll be honest with you. You tell me if you
agree or disagree with this statement. But I would assume
that of all the years you have covered Purdue football,
this one may be as enigmatic as any of them
in trying to determine exactly what kind of team you've
got that you're going to cover this year.

Speaker 12 (01:25:43):
Yeah, no idea. First of all, Jake, I want to say,
I am still alive, thank gosh, and.

Speaker 1 (01:25:49):
Yeah, sorry, sorry about that on the intro.

Speaker 12 (01:25:51):
Right, you've got Ozzy Osbourne to my friend.

Speaker 2 (01:25:55):
But Jamal Warner it's four now they use are coming
threes now, it's four right, it's crazy.

Speaker 12 (01:26:00):
But yeah, I've got no idea, Jake. I'd be lying
to you if I said I knew what was going
to happen this fall in West Laws and we had
over fifty portal transfers, of course, to all the freshmen year,
I think seventy newcomers overall, So just a real roster
undergone a lot of tumble. So yeah, how will the
chemis you develop? Who knows who's going to be the quarterback?

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Who knows? How will the schemes work? Who knows? On
top of all that, Jake, the schedule is all the
difficult too.

Speaker 1 (01:26:29):
Okay, So let's talk about the schedule itself.

Speaker 2 (01:26:31):
And I want to get into one area that I
think there is some familiarity for Purdue. But if you
were to talk about the schedule itself, you know, it's
such a tradition Layden schedule, Like when you look, for example,
at the fact of Notre Dame being on the roster.

Speaker 1 (01:26:45):
I mean on the schedule. That's one of them that
you look.

Speaker 2 (01:26:47):
At Notre Dame and you're like, Okay, you know you
got to you got to keep that I realized, but
that is a daunting one. But it's just before that
as well, the fact that you sneak in usc when
you're in conference play and you start start out with
ball Stateton Illinois, and then you got to go at Michigan,
you got to go at Washington, You've got.

Speaker 1 (01:27:04):
Ohio State at home.

Speaker 2 (01:27:05):
It's going to be really tough, is it not for
even Barry Odam to get an idea who they are?

Speaker 12 (01:27:10):
Yeah, plus in Indiana and Illinois are now still in
the top twenty five, top fifteen teams in the country
as well. So lots of heavy lifting. Like you said,
just a tall order for for Barry Oldham in year one.
He's confident, Jake. We talked to him just moments ago,
sort of off stage. He goes on stage. You're eleven
forty five Pacific time on the big stage, the big dais.

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But we talked to him again and he talked about
that non conference schedule a little bit. No plans for
for you to alter its non conference schedule based for
the foreseeable future. Who knows what college football will look
like for the next two years anyway, but he knows
what he's up against. But you know, Barry Older, he
talked to him. You know, he's ready to embrace those
challenges and he knows there are many. And I think

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he was on Indianapolis Radio too and talked about the
quarterback situation as well. That's going to be very interesting
to see how it sorts out with Ryan Brown and
Malachi Singleton, of course, mean the two primary contendents for
that job, and Jake I think when a push comes
to shove, Ryan Brown is going to be your guy.

Speaker 2 (01:28:13):
When you look at Purdue, Tom Tom Dear Tom Deanhard
our guest from Golden Black.

Speaker 1 (01:28:18):
We're talking about Purdue. He's out.

Speaker 2 (01:28:19):
Tom is at Big Ten media days out in Las Vegas,
the convenient locale for the Big Ten of Las Vegas.
When you look at the roster, the one thing that
jumps out of me, you know, Devin Mockabee has been
a really, really good player and just a solid guy
that I think can get you yards and you consult
clock with him, and I think that because there's familiarity

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there maybe that's what you really ride because you know
what he can do in the Big Ten. But can
you win in today's Big ten with that kind of a.

Speaker 12 (01:28:49):
Style going be tough, you know, just like the NFL
is going to pass in the college football is the same,
and you're gonna need that balance and you're gonna have
to have that ability to throw that ball down field.
You know, Barry Otam knows that you got to stretch
defense and you got to take your shots down field.
The receiving cores last year really underperformed, not left speed,

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and I think Barry thinks they've added enough speed to
really make defenses respect the receivers and have to have
to maybe not sit on routes as much and play
as much his own coverage. So yeah, we'll see if
if odin Kin can make that pass, the game, you know,
come to life, because like you said, Jake, it's awfully
hard to win the ball playing three yards in a

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cloud of dusk. Barry wants to punch, and he knows
he wants to be physical, wants to be tough, but
he knows he's gonna have to throw the ball over
the top and have those big chunk plays and those
big plays that get your touchdowns as well.

Speaker 1 (01:29:45):
You know, Odam is a guy. I really like what
he did at UNLV.

Speaker 2 (01:29:48):
I've got a cousin, Tom, and you know you can
write this article, right Jake Querry said that.

Speaker 1 (01:29:53):
His cousin says, but but.

Speaker 2 (01:29:54):
I've got a cousin that lives out in Vegas and
it's actually a huge supporter of ULV football and it's
you know, season ticket holder, and he loves him. I mean,
he said, look, they are going to be a better
football team. It might not be right away, but he
liked just the overall aside from scheme, Tom, I think
Kurtz Signetty was able to do this with Indiana. I
thought what Indiana did last year not to turn a

(01:30:15):
Purdue talking to Indiana, I get the danger there, but
to make the parallel, the first year coach Indiana a
year ago started winning games because the plays that they
used to air, they then were forcing other teams to
make errors, and Indiana was taking advantage of it and
they were out disciplining people. And I think that if
you look at UNLV, that's what his teams when he

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turned them around. I think that's what my cousin was
saying that he really liked about him is they were
a disciplined football team.

Speaker 1 (01:30:45):
Now, with that said, what.

Speaker 2 (01:30:48):
Things or personalities or characteristics about Barry Odom have you
noticed that might give some glimpse as to what will
carry over to his football team.

Speaker 12 (01:30:58):
I think are smart and tough mantra, and uh, you
talked about those things. But the discipline. I think that
discipline was lacking a lot last year. A lot of penalties,
a lot of sloppy playing. Attention to detail and what
your cousin saw at UNLB last year, what was a
team that was buttoned up right? Uh? The big key

(01:31:18):
not just in football, but in any of these fourt
is you know, just don't beat yourself, you know, limit
your mistakes and and and force other mistakes and hope
and hope that other team makes some airrors that are costly.
So I think just the way Bury on and carries
himself and the little bits we've seen in practice, it's
it's sort of hard for us to tell. But you know, again,

(01:31:39):
a team that's gonna be have have that attention to
detail and uh, that's going to be key. I think
it's gonna be a tough year. I think Vegas out
here as pretty three and a half as far as
over under win total, So maybe three and nine, maybe
four and eight if you really want to be generous. So,
but but more than anything, just to be competitive, don't
get embarrassed trying jakeson sixty six to nothing, sixty six

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to seven, fifty two to six. It often became an
abomination on Sally's and became very hard to watch for
Purdue fans.

Speaker 2 (01:32:09):
You know, the tom I want to go back to
something you mentioned earlier, and I know that you know,
for all of us, it's it's unchartered territory. But when
I look at if you look at a weather map,
when there is you know, a hurricane forming out in
the Gulf and you can see these little storms that
are kind of spiraling off of it, right and it's

(01:32:30):
creating havoc and a number of different islands, it feels
a little bit like still that's the era that we're
in with Nil and I understand that the NCAA is
trying to corral it and they're trying to you know,
create sandbags, and everybody is trying to figure out just
exactly what to do there. And I don't know that
we're there yet, And it feels to me like you

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have all of these little storms that are spiraling off
of these decisions now, of the initial decision of NIL
and what it was supposed to be, and then the
reality of what it really is, and the transparency of Okay, fine,
let's just take all the rules off of it. Where
do you think, Tom, we are headed with all of
this and when will we begin to know that those

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little storms have now calmed down and we have one
big one to deal with?

Speaker 1 (01:33:18):
Well?

Speaker 12 (01:33:19):
I think you know right now we have that with
the CSC that's using Deloitte to sort of vet all
the NIL deals. Anything over six hundred dollars has to
be vetted and approved, and that process that has begun.
I guess a lot of deals have been rejected. I
guess for me it's going to be when people start
to challenge some of those rejections and the lawyers start

(01:33:40):
getting involved and the courts start get involved. I guess
I still find it hard to believe that anybody can
tell anybody else how they want to spend their money.
You know, who's to tell me how much I want
to pay somebody to cut my grass? If I want
to pay ja query one thousand dollars to cut my
grass every time I can pay them one thousand dollars. Right,
Who was to say what's the going rate for anything?

(01:34:02):
So those types of things I think, and I guess
I'll believe it when I see it. I think at
some point lawyers are going to get involved, courts can
get involved, and you're not going to tell anybody how
they can spend their money. So we've just started with
this clearing house. We'll see how we go, and maybe
another year before we get a real clear picture on
how effective it is and how the NIO picture looks moving.

Speaker 2 (01:34:26):
Forward, Tom, you ain't sniffing my toro for at least
fifteen hundred til we at least get into fifteen hundred,
Just so you know, you know what I mean.

Speaker 12 (01:34:33):
I mean, I know it's a nice moment. That's why
I said, grant.

Speaker 1 (01:34:38):
That's why I got to pay it off, right.

Speaker 2 (01:34:40):
You know the other thing too, that and I like
this aspect of what I'm about to say, But it
is unusual. Can you imagine going back fifteen years ago
or so and predicting to yourself that you would be
at Big ten Media Day in Las Vegas Nevada so
that you can get there in time to talk to
the head coach for UCLA.

Speaker 12 (01:35:00):
Right, I know, it's it's out of the bizarro world.
I mentioned that to somebody the other day. I went
back in nineteen eighty five to see where the big
ten what has to come in the last forty years? Right,
ten teams to eighteen teams. Now it's coast to coast
media day in Las Vegas. It's just insane. And where

(01:35:21):
are we going? You know that that's the fascinating thing.
Where's college football going? And that that's a debate for
another day. But you're right. I embraced the change in
a bold new world and for new fans certainly opens
a bolt in the world again. After that one and
eleven abominations.

Speaker 2 (01:35:39):
Well, I think about last year. For example, I went
to Tom Deanhard as our guest Golden Black. We're talking
about Bret football, just a big ten in general. A
year ago I went to the game where burdw hosted Oregon.
I love Ross a night, Tom, I just do. I
think it's a great atmosphere. I love the fans up there.
It was it was a lot of fun. We had

(01:35:59):
a lot of fun. By going and go to that game.
But it was shortly after that game where I read
an article somewhere where Oregon had made comment about the
amount of travel they have to do. We think that like,
it's just you load sixty guys onto a plane and
you fly out play a football game. But when you
consider the support staff, the equipment, all of the things

(01:36:19):
that go into it, you start chartering more than just
one plane, it's two, three, you know, whatever, it may be, right,
and that all of those expenses. I then started reading
articles that some of the schools were like, wait a minute,
this might have been a bigger financial endeavor than we
had anticipated, and that is going to impact some of
the certainly less funded sports. Do you think we are

(01:36:41):
still there in the terms of I'm not going to
say buy a remorse of Big ten expansion, but is
there still a financial aspect of this that is being
second guest?

Speaker 12 (01:36:51):
This probably still has to be evaluate. Last thing I
guess one year in the book Show to Speak. I'm
not sure what the books look like those West Go
schools in particular, but I think maybe maybe reduce you
some alteration when it comes to non revenue sports. Right
as far as the travel goes and these are these
travels are just limited to the men's basketball and the

(01:37:14):
women's basketball, and you get jobs in football. So I
don't know, we'll see where it goes. If the belts
have to be tightened. I'm sure that looked at. Had
the expenses of that. I've been huge for these schools
to fly all of these teams criss crossed in the
country multiple times. It's not cheap to stay places, fly place,

(01:37:34):
and you got to feed them too.

Speaker 2 (01:37:37):
Ryan Brown is a fascinating story, right, because if I'm
not mistaken in this, correct me if I'm wrong, Boilermaker
wanted to be a tar heel back to being a
boiler Maker, is that right?

Speaker 1 (01:37:46):
I understanding this correct?

Speaker 12 (01:37:48):
You got it correct as it correct?

Speaker 1 (01:37:50):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:37:50):
And then with that, you know, I guess because you
do have a new coach, you get kind of a
fresh start. There is the and I'm talking about the
quarterback position. By the way, is it his job to lose?

Speaker 12 (01:38:02):
I think it is about it that I think he's
brought in for a reason, right, Jake. I mean, the
quarterbacks that we're here in the spring did not impressed.
It's pretty obvious to anybody he watched you know, A. J.
Colson's already left. Malachi Singaphant is still here as well.
And in that quarterback from Washington State his name Escapes
and Evans Chuba's still here too. None of them really

(01:38:24):
impressed at all. And that's why they went out and
got you know, Ryan Wild and brought him back so
to speak. You know, he left the sword after he
would have got here we could spring the football. But
Bill Belichick out there in Chapol Hill, he came back
because again, I think pretty realized they need to help
the quarterback. I think Ryan browns the fifth for what
Barry Ontam wants to do. He can throw it and

(01:38:44):
he can run it. He wants a dual threat quarterback,
a guy can pull the ball down and run it
if need be, a guy who can extend the plays
with his feet. And you know what Ryan Brown is
the charismatic guys, He's he's a leader, He's a guy
on his teammates like a lot. So I do think
it's his job to love. Will we see a little
bit of Malachi Singleton. I guess we'll see how things

(01:39:05):
go with Ryan Brown, but I think for now, you know,
he's the guy that's going to be understanding the QB
one if you will, and if they can get Malachi
some time, they will just to get him from seasoning.
But again, I think it's going to be, you know,
do or die with Ryan Brown come started the twenty
twenty five season.

Speaker 1 (01:39:22):
Last the time before we let you go.

Speaker 2 (01:39:24):
Since you're out there and you were watching, you know,
just Big ten Media Day in general, with everybody in
Las Vegas not talking about Purdue, what were the storylines
that jumped out at you? Whether there was you know,
a year ago, I guess you would say it was
Signetti coming out and that's where he made some of
his proclamations that caught everybody on their ear. Did we
have any of that this year or what seemed to

(01:39:45):
be even amongst the media contingency, the overwhelming storylines or
themes that you'll take away of twenty twenty five Big
ten Media.

Speaker 12 (01:39:53):
Day, Well, I think it's Kurt Signetti right with the
comment about how they're trying to schedule like an SEC school.

Speaker 1 (01:39:58):
YEP, I think a.

Speaker 12 (01:40:00):
Lot of people plotted that. I think he's accurate, and
I think you and l Player with got agenda and
he delivered and did a great job delivering it. So
that's private minute thing. I would think, I believe that
it's really created almost bus thus far through these three days.
Is that rant? And you know they dropped Virginia to really,
like you said, go to SEC schedule and you can't

(01:40:23):
look at.

Speaker 2 (01:40:24):
Me, Tom by my SEC schedule we talked about yesterday.
But basically what he means is, listen, if if I've
got a load up on what people are going to
call cupcakes in the pre conference, I'm not worried about
it because I get enough meat of the sandwich at
the conference itself, so I might as well get myself
to a point where I'm getting wins and then I
get my quality wins within the conference. Why in the

(01:40:46):
world do I need to go out of conference to
collect quality wins when I've got to be You're the
case of Purdue USC and Notre Dame in Illinois and
Indiana and Ohio State Michigan on the schedule, right, I
mean in Washington. That basically paraphrases what he said, right exactly.

Speaker 12 (01:40:59):
Why Well said that, That's exactly what Kurt said. And
they don't remember who you beat the name, they remember
how many wins you had right, and you look back
at all the way you talk about great teams, joways talking
about anyway twelve and oh they want eleven and one.
You'll go back and dissect who they beat. So you're right,
you have plenty of opportunity for impressive wins within conference play.

(01:41:20):
Why bang your head against the wall and play rigorous
non conference schedule too?

Speaker 2 (01:41:24):
And you think that was a sentiment that it the
reason I find that, And I'm glad I asked Tom
because I would have been under the assumption that other
Big Ten coaches would have looked at Signetti and saying
that and been like, here goes Kurt Signetti again, like
come on, man, But but you believe that Actually what
he was saying this time was kind of saying out loud,

(01:41:45):
but everybody's thinking, is that a fair way of saying it?

Speaker 9 (01:41:47):
Oh?

Speaker 12 (01:41:48):
Yeah, the big can circles without a doubt. I think
they want the SEC. They had that extra conference game
just so there's more similarities between these two conferences and
how there's seasons that are constructing. So yeah, I think
if you got this coaches in the room privately, they
always say, yeah, we we love what Kurtzy mean.

Speaker 1 (01:42:04):
He said.

Speaker 2 (01:42:06):
Tom, I appreciate the time. We look forward to talking
to you. Everything getting underway for Purdue. I'm looking at
the schedule right here August thirtieth with Paul State, then
a week after that at Southern Illinois, and then it
gets real because you got USC followed up by Notre Dame,
so there is absolutely no rest for the Boilers once
they're going. Tom Deanhart Golden Black joining us here on
the program.

Speaker 1 (01:42:26):
Tom appreciated safe travels back.

Speaker 12 (01:42:27):
All right, thank you, Jake, be good buddy.

Speaker 2 (01:42:30):
And you might actually find Tom that it's going to
be a quick fight if you're going with the tailwind
that has come across Westfield here, because it is a
little bit windy here, which is quite the.

Speaker 1 (01:42:37):
Reprief because it is very very warm.

Speaker 2 (01:42:40):
And one of the things that is in fact wisping
across Westfield here in terms of Colts camp and day
and practice number two is that of which what was
said earlier today at the start of this program. For
a glimpse behind the curtain, if you will. For those
of you who listen to the show, which I appreciate,
or listened to the Morning Show with Kevin Bowen and

(01:43:03):
James Boyd who've been out here or listening to JMV later.
This is the time of year where the Colts and
their staff and we are appreciative of it, make available
to us players for sit down interviews to do for
our show. And obviously that comes within the window of
time that the players are done with practice or getting
ready for something else that they may have to do here,

(01:43:24):
film sessions, et cetera. So you kind of work on
the Colts schedule understandably for today. That schedule meant just
before we went on the air, So I conducted an
interview with Bernard Yman, who is in his fourth year.
He is entering year number four as a left tackle
for the Colts and his story is a fascinating one.
He grew up in Vienna, Austria. He began playing football

(01:43:46):
as a young team when he did basically like an
American Football introduction type camp, fell in love with the game,
started playing it, moved to or went to Central Michigan
because he is, you know, six seven and three, got
an opportunity to play football at Central Michigan at the
tight end position. After his second year of college football

(01:44:07):
at Central Michigan in the MAC, he changed switched to
offensive linemen, and the Colts drafted him kind of on
a bit of blind faith, on the fact that he
could develop into their left tackle to replace Anthony Costanzo
who had retired, and in fact Ryman has done that.
His first outing was not a good one. He struggled early,

(01:44:29):
but he has turned into and developed into a very
good player and a solid left tackle and you would
say probably in the upper third of left tackles in
the National Football League. Now with that, he is in
a contract year, so at the end of the year
he becomes if he so chooses, a guy that could
talk to other teams, it becomes a free agent, can
go out there and see what is out there. There

(01:44:50):
are a number of ways the Colts can avoid that
franchise tag being won, et cetera. But a year ago
we learned this from Chris Ballard. Chris Ballard had a
year ago Ryan Kelly that was in a contract situation,
and Chris Ballard made it very clear at the start
of camp. I remember Ryan Kelly showing up for camp
and saying when he showed up, yeah, the Colts made
it clear to me that they are not interested in

(01:45:12):
resigning me right now, and they want to have that
conversation at the end of the year, and that became,
you know, obviously a talking point. And then we became
aware of the fact that the Colts decided to go
in another direction and Tanner Bordolini is the guy that
it looks like is going to be the starting center
should he stay healthy.

Speaker 1 (01:45:29):
That's who has taken.

Speaker 2 (01:45:30):
The reps in practices so far for the Colts. So
with all of that said, Bernard Ryman enters into a
year where most projections say that he is going to
or has earned the right to ask for some twenty
to twenty one million dollars a year as a left tackle.
Left tackles do not grow on trees. Sure everybody has one,

(01:45:50):
doesn't mean everybody has a good one, and the Colts,
it looks like, have a good one and one that
is going to be here for quite some time to
protect whatever quarterback they may go with, whether it's Dany Richardson,
Daniel Jones, whether they completely start anew in that contract situation.
Earlier today, just before we went on the air, I
was interviewing Bernard Ryman for this show. I asked him

(01:46:12):
specifically about his contract status, totally expecting and preparing for
the Status Co answer. The Status Co answer, of course,
would be, well, you know, those things will play out
when they do. And what he said, I thought to myself,
I think that's newsworthy, I think, and I've done this
for a while, so I can tell sometimes when a

(01:46:34):
guy says something and I think to myself, I need
to earmark that, I need to benchmark that. I think
that is something that is going to create and generate conversation.
And I was surprised with his answer, and I think
others were surprised by his answer, and we will play
for you his answer when we come back to Grand
Park and Westfield Colts Camp day number two here on

(01:46:56):
the fan. It is hard to think of somebody from
a sports standpoint. I mean, obviously Michael Jordan, you know
they're a number, but if you look at people who
were able to come seemingly almost out of nowhere.

Speaker 1 (01:47:13):
And we're going to get to the Bernard Ryman stuff
here in just a second.

Speaker 2 (01:47:15):
But at the time that I was interviewing Bernard Ryman,
it was very shortly after that where I learned of
the passing of Hulk Hogan. And admittedly I was not
a huge fan of professional wrestling when I was a kid.
Now that you know, it's interesting when when pro wrestling
first kind of hit the scene, at least in the

(01:47:36):
world that I lived in, meaning the era that I
lived in. I think for a lot of people, their
introduction to professional wrestling was strictly Georgia Championship Wrestling, which
aired on Superstation TBS, and back before you had all
kinds of cable options, you had Superstation TBS which would
air Georgia Championship Wrestling and the Atlanta Braves, and then

(01:47:59):
Starcade and a couple of other bad game shows. Starcade
was pretty awesome. It was so bad. It was based
on people that would come and play video games against
one another. I'll never forget the time I was watching it.
There was like a nine year old kid. They were
playing Cubert, I think, and the guy that the nine
year old was going up against was like forty two
years old. Like, what are we watching here? But Superstation

(01:48:22):
TBS with kids Beat with Audo Lye and all that.
You would see Georgia Championship Wrestling. And then around that time,
Rocky three came out, and in Rocky three, Rocky Balboa
fictionally goes up for a fundraising match against Thunderlips as
he was known, and I just remember being like, who
is this guy? You know, he had obviously the twenty

(01:48:44):
four inch python arms and you know, ripped the shirt
and the whole deal. And that was the introduction to
many of us in the world of the character that
would become known as hul Kogan. And then of course
in World Championship Wrestling I believe then it was known
and obviously ww F and the WWE and everything that
you know it today. But when he won the belt

(01:49:06):
against the Iron Chic, I don't remember that as well.
I just know that Hulk Hogan himself became a pop
cultural icon and somebody that you did not have to,
like myself, be a fan of wrestling to know exactly
who and what he was. Then you went into the
reality show with about his daughter and his son, and

(01:49:26):
you got a look at him, not unlike Ozzie Osbourne,
very similar to Ozzy Osbourne in the fact that the
reality show gave you more a glimpse of the person
versus the character that they were portraying. Obviously, Hulk Hogan
then lately, in his later years became a very you know,
central figure within politics and et cetera. But Hulk Hogan

(01:49:48):
passing away of cardiac arrest. It was announced when the
I believe, I would say Panela's county, but basically Tampa
area police were brought to his home for an assistance
call and it was cardiac arrest that it was discovered
for Hulk Hogan.

Speaker 1 (01:50:03):
The cause of death as it's being reported.

Speaker 2 (01:50:06):
Also, Chuck Mangioni we mentioned passing away his family announcing
that today from he passed away two days ago. But
let's get back into the Colts conversation with Bernard Ryman.
So Bernard Ryman, who has been a really good player,
and again I think it is just one of those positions,
and I'm talking about the left tackle position that is

(01:50:26):
kind of a thankless position because oftentimes you don't notice
the left tackle until you need to notice the left tackle,
and you don't address left tackle until you need to
address left tackle. And this franchise, on this market and
this media group, myself included, have probably been spoiled by
the left tackle position. Because Tarak Glenn was really, really good,

(01:50:48):
I mean really good. At no point in Tarak Glenn's
playing career for the Colts was he anything outside of
say a top probably five to ten left tackle. I
know that the running joke in Indianapolis became by a
lot of people. Oh, another false start for Tarak Glenn.
But do you realize the fleet of foot nature you

(01:51:10):
need to have to get false starts when you are
that size of man, which Tarak Glenn is and was.
And when Tarak Glenn surprisingly retired with a year left
on his deal, if I'm not mistaken, I remember the
Colts drafting Anthony Costanzo, and Costanzo when he first got
here was just kind of this big goofy, you know,

(01:51:34):
he had his hair, was shaved head, et cetera. And
Anthony Costanzo worked tirelessly at perfecting being a left tackle
and he became a obviously an elite level left tackle.
And then you get Bernard Ryman, who, as I talked about,
was somebody that had to learn the position in college,

(01:51:55):
got drafted. There was a little bit of a wing
and a prayer I think by the Colts, but they
fell in love with this side. And credit to Chris Ballard.
Credit Chris Ballard because when he took Bernard Ryman, there
were a lot of people that wondered whether or not
that was a reach pick, and he clearly saw something
in him that now whoever would have guessed here heading
into year number four that Bernard Ryman and his contractual

(01:52:16):
status would be a storyline at Colts Camp. But I
think it is a storyline, and it may be more
a storyline because when I talked to him this morning
and he sat down, I thought, Okay, I'm going to
ask him about his contract, and then I went back
to what I was talking about yesterday, which is sometimes
we just assume a player wants to be here, and

(01:52:36):
it's like, well, obviously he's gonna want to resign.

Speaker 1 (01:52:38):
Here, and you need to think.

Speaker 2 (01:52:38):
Wait a minute, though, But I mean, just because a
guy's played here. If you look at Ryman, he's played
for different head coaches, he's played for with different quarterbacks,
he's played with different centers. You know, he may say,
you know what, I want stability somewhere. I want to
go compete somewhere. So I did ask him the question
of is this where you want to be? And I
think he misunderstood that, but then he said something later

(01:52:58):
that there was no misunderstanding. Here's how the first part
of it sounded with Bernard Ryman.

Speaker 8 (01:53:02):
Oh absolutely, yes, yes, I mean, obviously we love it here,
would love to get things done, but I'm not involved
in this.

Speaker 6 (01:53:11):
Obviously, you have an agent that takes care of this.

Speaker 8 (01:53:14):
From my understanding, there's they aren't on the same page
about things. So you say they're not on the same
page as of right now and not exactly the same
page right now. So but I mean, as I said,
for me as a football player, I'm preparing for the
season because that's what matters.

Speaker 2 (01:53:30):
Okay now, So I began that by saying, is this
where you want to be? And he said Initially he
said no, And that's where I asked for the clarification.
I'm like, no, no, no, I don't mean he said no
because I want to be in the super Bowl. And
I said no, no, I don't mean like where you are
as a team production wise, I mean, is this the
franchise you want to be with? And that was the
answer you just heard. Then when he said we are
not on the same page, I wanted him to clarify

(01:53:53):
by that, did he mean, for example, in the situation
with Ryan Kelly, where not on the same page like
the Colts just didn't want to have that discussion yet
or not on the same page in terms of the
perceived value, here's Bernard Ryman.

Speaker 8 (01:54:07):
From my understanding is that the numbers don't always quite
add up yet. You know, the way they might value
a position differently than my team thinks it is.

Speaker 6 (01:54:18):
You know, we're working.

Speaker 2 (01:54:22):
The value of my position from where the team thinks
it is, from where I and I'm paraphrasing where he
thinks it is. Now this is to me. I noticed
that he said the numbers are not there yet. Maybe
that means that Bernard Ryman is just in the exploratory
phase of this discussion. Maybe it means that Bernard Ryman's

(01:54:46):
agent has said it's fine.

Speaker 1 (01:54:48):
They've already assured me it'll be.

Speaker 2 (01:54:49):
Fine, And one would assume that it's going to be
fine because there is no waiting in the wings replacement
for Bernard Ryman. That's a position that theoretically the Colts
know they've got taken care of for a while and
they don't have to look elsewhere.

Speaker 1 (01:55:05):
But you've got to get them locked in.

Speaker 2 (01:55:07):
Then you consider the money they have already invested to
Quentin Nelson, and you wonder if in fact they are
there's a little bit of a Miles Turner factor there.
Right of some other teammate come in and Bernard Ryman
may say, Okay, I'm good.

Speaker 1 (01:55:21):
You waited too long.

Speaker 2 (01:55:24):
From the Colts standpoint, so I think, I think this
is still something that they're.

Speaker 1 (01:55:30):
Going to work out.

Speaker 2 (01:55:31):
However, however, when he says yet, it's something where they're
not on the same page yet, that's Bernard Ryman, I think,
assuming that they're going to be on the same page.
But it also is really good gamesmanship from Bernard Ryman there,
because right there, Bernard Ryman just planted the seed of

(01:55:51):
they may not find me as valuable as what my
position is. And if you start to plant that seed,
then what you're doing is you are potentially sending out
the test balloon. You're sending out the flair to the
Atlanta Falcons, the Tampa Bay Bucks, to New Orleans Saints,
the LA Chargers, the Denver Broncos, the Seattle Seahawks, the
Minnesota Vikings, the New York Jets, one of those franchises.

(01:56:14):
You're sending it out there to them where they're saying,
get his agent on the phone, because we know his
value and let's make him feel valued.

Speaker 1 (01:56:22):
Here.

Speaker 2 (01:56:24):
I think he feels valued here. I think he likes
it here. I think he knows he's going to be
long term here. But it's in his best interest in
making it known that he doesn't feel that way right now.
Show me with the money how much you value me?
And until then I don't feel valued. I think it's smart,

(01:56:47):
but I think it's something to keep an eye on
because he is a very very important piece. And in addition,
I think personally and it's not my job to sit
here and tell Chris Ballard how to do his but.

Speaker 1 (01:56:58):
We do do that from time to time.

Speaker 2 (01:57:00):
I think it's smart for them to lock him in
now because the more Bernard Ryman plays one of two
things from here forward. For this season, in terms of
the value of Bernard Ryman, it goes one of two ways.
One is he plays, continues to play well and increases
his price tag no win for the Colts there, or

(01:57:21):
the other is he plays gets hurt. Sure you don't
have him locked in, but now you're right back to
square one. Anyway, I think it's in their best interest
to get it done as soon as they can, and
I think it's in Bernard Ryman's best interest to do
exactly what he did, and that is plant that little
seed to up that price.

Speaker 1 (01:57:42):
We'll come back, we'll put a tie on all of it.

Speaker 2 (01:57:44):
We'll hand it off to John next Colts Camp day
number two. Here Aquarying Company on the fan. Well, I
guess that means I'm good until about mid August. This
will be stuck in the head. Mo from Northwest Ohio
sent me a bay I said yesterday, said he got
until Tuesday before he started playing this song in his
head or finished playing this song in his head. So

(01:58:07):
NIC's going Eddie. Sorry walking five hundred miles. You know
my winter summer challenge. I say it every year in
the wintertime.

Speaker 3 (01:58:15):
Yeah, I'm well aware of it.

Speaker 2 (01:58:17):
Okay, I said, in the winter time when it was
It wasn't long ago. During the polar vortext war was
freezing outside, and I said, okay, either.

Speaker 1 (01:58:24):
The coldest day of the year or the hottest day
of the year. You pick one of those two.

Speaker 2 (01:58:27):
You gotta walk five miles, two laps around the Indianapolis
Motor Speedway five miles and you can either do it
on the coldest day of the year or the hottest
day of the year. But you have to dress in
the exact outdoor clothing you would be wearing on the
opposite day. And it's interesting because during the winter time,

(01:58:48):
when I ask it, everybody says, oh, the summer, for sure.
I mean I can handle the summer. The winter, though
it's freezing outside, There's no way I could do it.
I think right now, if you tried to do it,
you'd be If you put on right now winter gear
and tried.

Speaker 1 (01:59:01):
To do it, it would be there.

Speaker 2 (01:59:04):
I don't think you'd make it because and keep in mind,
the track temperature is going to be double what the
air temperature is. It would be there's no way you'd
make it. It's very warm outside. Please stay hydrated. Okay,
what's that? Okay, okay, okay, that's about what we'd be

(01:59:27):
going through your head during the delirium when the heat
exhaustion set in, right just before you went down.

Speaker 1 (01:59:34):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:59:35):
Pacers news to report, Fever news to report, Colt's news
to report. We will begin with the Pacers and Riek Freeman.
The Pacers opted out of his contract his two way contract.
He is now an unrestricted free agent, and Taylor Peter,
their draft pick, has now gotten a two way deal
and so as a result, and rie K Freeman has

(01:59:55):
been replaced roster wise, at least in terms of the
numbers standpoint or the spot standpoint by Taylor Peter. So
the roster as it stands right now is full for
the Pacers WNBA side of things. For the Fever, Caitlyn
Clark no new news on her injury. That from earlier
today from Stephanie White on this program, and they sought

(02:00:17):
second opinion on Caitlin Clark, there was no new information
to come from that, so she continues to be out
indefinitely while they await that soft tissue injury to see
when she would be available to the Indiana Fever, who
tonight take on the Las Vegas Aces. Eddie Garrison will
be on the pre and postgame broadcast of that particular

(02:00:37):
matchup tonight. JMV is out at Taylor's Pub in Greenbrier.
Plenty of time for you to get by, have a
cold one with him, whether it be Die Cooke perfectly
sufficient or a beverage of your choice, but to be
able to listen to what J ANDB has to say
beginning coming up here in just a couple of minutes.
Back to the Bernard Ryman situation. Eddie, you told me
that you had a question regarding that situation of Bernard Ryman.

Speaker 11 (02:00:59):
I do two things.

Speaker 3 (02:01:00):
Number one, do you think Bernard Rabbins camp is looking
at the fact that Quentin Nelson is getting paid twenty
million dollars as a left guard in they're saying, hey,
you're paying him that my client is worth more than this.
And then number two, do the carly ersay and all
the darters have a say in this, like are they
telling Chris Baalid like, hey, let's hold off on committing

(02:01:20):
any big money right now. Let's kind of figure out
where things are at. Let's see how the season plays
out before we commit to anybody down the line.

Speaker 2 (02:01:28):
Really good question, especially the second one there. My assumption
would be My assumption would be, while you may be
correct that the USA Daughters may say, look, you know,
we we'd rather not do signings right before camp or
in camp or whatever it may be, I'm going to
assume that what they have said is, look, and I
don't know this, Eddie. It's a great question. My assumption

(02:01:50):
would be that they say to Chris Ballard, you have
been hired to run the football team, and that includes
determining what players are and are not worth what salaries.
So before you throw a number out and sign somebody
to an astronomical number, we'd like to know what the
number is first, but we are going to trust in
default to your judgment whether or not that. So, in

(02:02:11):
other words, I think they say, here's the amount from
a salary cap standpoint, we're willing to spend. You have
been hired and entrusted to determine in your best interest
where that is allocated, and so long as you are
staying within that parameter, obviously by NFL rules, then we
trust you on that. So I do think that they
probably have gone with the same understanding that their father had,

(02:02:33):
which is that is his decision to make, and we
will trust you. But it's a very good question. And
that's not to say that's on my behalf the definitive answer.

Speaker 1 (02:02:42):
All right.

Speaker 2 (02:02:42):
Thanks to Bernard Ryman, Stephanie White, as well Tom Deanhart,
Matt Taylor for today, day number two of Colts Camp
in the Books, Day number three tomorrow. We will resume
at noon tomorrow and Matt, excuse me, chamv is up next,
of course from Taylor's pub I thank you for listening
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