Live From The Indiana State Fair! Is Anthony Richardson Leading the QB Competition? Kevin Bowen & Pat Boylan Join!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Unbelievable, unbelievable when you consider the difference that like what
a week makes, not even that five days.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
It is perfect.

Speaker 1 (00:13):
And when I say perfect, I mean capital P, capital E,
capital are, capital F, capital E, capital C, capital T.
I was the Allisonville Elementary School spelling Me runner up
in nineteen eighty four, and I proved it right there
by spelling perfect. And if you had to define the word,
you would say the weather for opening day of the

(00:33):
Great Indiana State Fair, because it is absolutely spectacular. It is.
I don't even know. I haven't looked, but I'm going
to say seventy two breezy, not a cloud in the sky,
no humidity, eddie. I don't know if you know this
or not, but if you've ever been to San Diego, California,
it's like this, three hundred and sixty three days a
year in San Diego, it's like this. Literally, people are
walking around here. It's like that in Seattle. Between. Here's

(00:56):
the trick though, if you're in Seattle, actually right now
now perfect time to be in Seattle. But you got
six weeks. You got six weeks to enjoy it. And
then they turn the faucet on and the faucet kind
of has a leak and it's not a full rush
of water, but there's just a mist, so that that
is not a myth. There is a mist, but it
is absolutely gorgeous here and it is often to be

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here opening day for the Indiana State Fair, and what
has become a tradition really here at the Dairy Bar
just in front. It's lunchtime, so people are lined up
already for their grilled cheese, for their milkshakes, for their milk,
for their cheese sticks. They have Eddie Garrison a special
They have a special milkshake that they do each and

(01:40):
every year. Would you like to guess the special flavor
for this year's milkshake?

Speaker 3 (01:43):
Well, I already know it.

Speaker 1 (01:48):
Go ahead, that is correct, the Key Lime Pie milkshake.

Speaker 2 (01:55):
And listen, I had the Key Lime Pie milkshake at.

Speaker 1 (01:58):
The Fastest Rookie Line back in May.

Speaker 2 (02:01):
They had a preview of it, and the.

Speaker 1 (02:02):
Key line it's not overly tart, it's subtle, but it's
there and it's spectacular, as is everything at the Dairy Bar,
which is one of the great traditions here at the
State Fair. And this is what I love most about
coming out to the fair. The vast majority of people
that are walking around, especially on opening day, are you know,
a lot of times it's for each kids and kids
from areas around the state of India and many of Indianapolis.

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So when they walk by, they're like, who is the idiot?
And the fan tent and the big tent which I love, right,
which is cool. And then you get people, of course
listeners in the area. If you are out here today,
be sure to stop by and say hi, is We
have plenty to talk about and a lot of what
we will talk about, a lot of what will focus
on today. Kevin Bowen gonna join us at two o'clock
today and we will get into this. And that is

(02:48):
that last night, And I think last night was pretty
cool because you know, it really was. There were a
lot of things that happened last night at Colts camp
and at Colts practice. To have the night practice, to
have the light show afterwards, the fireworks, and dare I
say it because it is so cliche, but they did

(03:09):
fireworks after the show, but there were some fireworks on
the field as well. And look, I thought about this
on the way in. I thought about this last night
as I was kind of recap recapping the camp itself.
And that is the fact that I do think that
we and you've heard me say this, I say this
a lot. I think sometimes we overlook things or I'm sorry,

(03:33):
we overanalyzed what we're looking at. I guess I should say,
because to me, it's always difficult to tell. You know,
did Aidie Mitchell have a spectacular game yesterday or did
Aidi Mitchell take advantage of a banged up secondary?

Speaker 2 (03:54):
No Jalen Jones, no Juju Brents.

Speaker 1 (03:58):
You know you've got you're going with guys that does
that mean that they are going to be Sunday players
that they're lining up against? You just don't know that.
But what I was thinking about was, and I roll
my eyes as much as anybody when when you see
the mass you know, tweets and posts and reports of

(04:21):
like incredible one handed catch from Tyler Warren across the middle,
absolutely amazing, And there's also part of you that's like,
that's awesome, But then why was the ball thrown five
feet over his head?

Speaker 2 (04:31):
I'm glad he made up for it.

Speaker 1 (04:34):
If you were a cynic, which at times I am,
and you see.

Speaker 2 (04:38):
It all around the league.

Speaker 1 (04:39):
I mean, if you're on social media, if you're looking
at you know, any of the websites or whatever team
that you root for, you see it all right. You
see the people that are posting the stuff of like
unbelievable performance, great little joky move from the running back,
such and such, and you're like, this guy's never gonna
make the squad. People get excited over stuff that You're like,

(04:59):
it's training camp. How excited can we get? But despite
or as maybe even the older version of me or
younger version, whichever you want to look at, it would
have been cynical about that. I have to look at
it and say to myself, but you would rather see
that than not. Right. If if we're going to talk

(05:21):
about the fact that Anthony Richardson just enjoyed his finest
day of training camp as a professional quarterback, and maybe
that's a little overstating it, but certainly in terms of
this year's camp, it seems that way. If we're going
to state that, if we're going to praise him, if
we're going to celebrate the fact that he looked precise,

(05:42):
that he made the right decisions, that he did not
have a high number or percentage of overthrows or in
the dirt, that his ball.

Speaker 2 (05:50):
Looked like it had good velocity.

Speaker 1 (05:52):
If we're going to talk about all those things, then
we have to take it with the grain of salt
in the fact that it's practice. But I'd rather talk
about that then still be talking about whether or not
he's ever gonna get it. And yes, yes we don't
know yet because it's practice. And yes it's not a
live defense that he's seeing, and it's not all the
arrows that are going through in a game, but it's

(06:14):
at least a first step for this year. And what maybe,
even though Chris Pallad I think would say else wise,
it may be the last year that he gets to
really look at this before you have to take a long,
hard look at it. And he's gotten a lot a
lot of time, no question about it. But having said
all of that, Eddie, I will ask you this. I
think you made an interesting point when we talked earlier,

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and that is I keep going back to what and
I did say, and I did feel like Daniel Jones
was going to be the day one start. It just
felt like that's how inevitably this was going to play out.
When you saw that they signed Daniel Jones, but now
that Jones has been in there, and now that he
has been not terrible but doesn't blow you away by

(06:58):
any stretch, and you see Richardson who's been not blowing
you away but having the right strides more so than not.
When you look at it, you made the point, Eddie,
and I think it's a good one that you have
to weigh into what they have already said about Anthony Richardson.

(07:18):
That kind of gives you glimpse as to which way
they may be leaning with this.

Speaker 4 (07:24):
Yes, Jake and I always we always take everything that
Chris Ballad or Shansdyken says with the grain and salt,
but then we always come back to me after the
fact we're like, well, Chris Pallard told us that, And
when he met with the media on a record that's
training camp, he was like, Hey, I don't think it
was that big of a deal that Anthony missed whatever
it was, five or six practices during OTAs. And they're

(07:44):
going to continue giving each of these quarterbacks fifty percent
of the reps with the starters and with the second unit.
So far, they've stayed true to that, and I think
Shane Styke can put the best Jake after practice last night.
He just said, everything right now with Anthony Richardson is cleaner,
and he's playing a lot more consistent out there on
the practice field, making good decisions with the football, and

(08:04):
those are the types of things you want to hear
from Sane Steiken because those are the inconsistencies that he
had in training him that Sneiken and Balad have talked
about that they want to see him display in practice
in order for him to take that quarterback one spot
and push off Daniel Jones from taking it from him.

Speaker 1 (08:24):
And the fact that they were vocal about not being
overly concerned by him missing ota and being a step back.
In fact they were both at the same starting point.
I think it's pretty big when you look at the
quarterback position. Plenty to talk about with it over the
course of today, which we will do. But joining us
now because we are at the American Dairy Association of
Indiana Dairy Bar here at the Indiana State Fair opening day.

(08:48):
They got grilled cheese sandwiches, they've got milkshakes, they've got milk.
Of course, milk is also presented to the winner of
the Indy five hundred winners. During Milk and I am
kicking myself. I am so angry at myself because Brook Williams.
And I'm going to guess on the title here, Brook,
you ready managing director of Communications and vice president of
American Dairy Association of Indiana.

Speaker 5 (09:09):
That's a really great title, just not mine.

Speaker 1 (09:11):
Is that close?

Speaker 5 (09:11):
It's director of Communications.

Speaker 1 (09:13):
Managing director of communications.

Speaker 5 (09:15):
You're closed.

Speaker 1 (09:16):
Do you manage the communications?

Speaker 5 (09:17):
I do manage manage the director. I am the.

Speaker 1 (09:22):
Direction and you manage your schedule. Right, So you're the
manager of the director of communication.

Speaker 5 (09:26):
I like it.

Speaker 1 (09:26):
So you're the managing director of Communications, director of Communications
for the American Dairy Association of Indiana.

Speaker 2 (09:32):
It could not be a more perfect day to be here.

Speaker 6 (09:34):
I know you've seen all kind of weather here at
the State Fair when you've been here, and this is
by far the best we've had.

Speaker 1 (09:40):
Let's get right to this because people want to know
this the no I want to know. I want to
know the special menu items that we have for this
year's fair. Do you have want cowprint shoes?

Speaker 7 (09:50):
I do?

Speaker 2 (09:51):
And this is why I'm mad at myself.

Speaker 1 (09:53):
I have a fabulous shirt that says it is the
Dairy Bar on it, And do you ever have those
clothing eye that you see it all the time until
and then like you're looking for we're in the world
that it go.

Speaker 6 (10:05):
But I have this one, which is, sorry, you're representing,
of course, the best refueling beverage, chocolate milk.

Speaker 1 (10:10):
It is. You know, I don't know if you know this,
but chocolate milk has as much protein as hard boiled egg, right, yeah,
It has as much potassium as a banana, right, yep.

Speaker 2 (10:18):
It has as much vitamin A as what a cup
of spinach?

Speaker 5 (10:20):
I think that's right.

Speaker 1 (10:21):
Yeah, And I mean and then obviously you get everything
that you need to refuel and I'm wearing exactly that
from the mini marathon this year.

Speaker 2 (10:27):
But let's get to the menu items that are here
this year.

Speaker 6 (10:29):
Yeah, so this year we have the key lime pie milkshake,
love it, thank you, And then the smoked goutacue grilled cheese,
which is smoked Gouda cheddar cheese barbecue sauce on Texas toast.

Speaker 1 (10:41):
Really, you know, back in my cigar des smoked goutacue
is I don't know if you know that or not. Okay, So,
and then what what typically is the most popular item
on the menu.

Speaker 6 (10:52):
Ooh, so we sell every year about seventy thousand milkshakes.

Speaker 5 (10:56):
The top seller is typically chocolate.

Speaker 6 (10:58):
Last year chocolate was actually beat by the blueberry milkshake.

Speaker 2 (11:02):
Really, yeah, that was last year's specialty was.

Speaker 6 (11:04):
Last year's yep. And then I mean grilled cheese. I
feel like a standard visit to the dairy bar, You're
going to get your grilled cheese, You're going to get
your milkshake for ten dollars total.

Speaker 5 (11:14):
It's a heck of a deal.

Speaker 2 (11:15):
Yeah, it's pretty cool. And you know the other thing,
it's fun.

Speaker 1 (11:17):
I don't know if people realize this, but because this
is the Indiana State Fair and I've seen this, when
you go inside the dairy bar, I think it is
always cool that typically, more often than not, the person
who's serving you, taking your money and making the sandwich whatever.
Usually groups that are connected to the state of Indiana
and a lot of high school groups. Right.

Speaker 6 (11:34):
Yeah, today's Lincoln athletics, So you're going to get all
different athletes inside of their running the ten windows. The
dairy bar could not run.

Speaker 5 (11:42):
Lincoln, that's right.

Speaker 1 (11:43):
You know what, I've worked at dairy bar last year
that's here. Did they ever leave here? Because they were
here last year when I was I was working.

Speaker 5 (11:49):
It's a tradition. They come back every year.

Speaker 6 (11:51):
But yeah, we couldn't run the dairy bar without the
support of the volunteer groups that are inside serving the food.
And of course the dairy barber represents the almost seven
hundred dairy farm families in the state of Indiana. All
the products inside of there are going to be local,
especially the milkshakes, hand uped ice cream. Who's your custard cheese?

Speaker 1 (12:10):
You know, Cambridge City is about what an hour and
twenty minutes or so, that's a long commute from the
barnback here where the kids live getting ready for you
know what I mean. They're here all year long in
the dairy ball day. Yeah, but no, it is this
is kind of the epicenter of the fair itself, and
it is fun to see the number of people that
come through. And you know, even today it feels to

(12:33):
me brooked, like a lot of the people today are
in fact those groups from around the state as opposed
to just central Indiana.

Speaker 6 (12:39):
Yeah, you never know what's going to be going on
at the Indiana State Fair anyway, but today being band Day,
it's the opening day. Beautiful weather, the lines are long
at the dairy Bar. It's what we like to see
each and every year. It's about the community supporting dairy
farmers and that's the best part about it.

Speaker 1 (12:55):
By the way, Eddiesons today is banned today. You know
what band I asked around to see if they're here, The.

Speaker 2 (12:59):
Proclaimers, I think Eddy's yeah, no, no.

Speaker 1 (13:04):
The Proclaimers are not like the Cambridge City kids. They
walk five hundred miles just to be here. No Oasis.
I was going to see if Oasis here. They're still
over overseas though, but I'm starting to contemplate going to
see them in Hollywood if anybody wants to go to
the Rose Bowl with not Hollywood, but the Rose Bowl,
if anybody wants to go. But I digress Brook. Let's
talk about the milk tradition. I know that everybody knows it.

(13:24):
For the five hundred, it's obviously one of my favorites.
You know. This year was you know, for Alex Pulow,
Alex Pulow winning the race that was obviously his first time.
I'm always curious how the drivers react and how receptive
they are to the milk tradition.

Speaker 6 (13:38):
I mean, Alex Pulow was great for many reasons. He
selected whole milk, which our dairy farmers always liked to
see he had a great drink of milk. But also
this year was the first year there was a couple
drivers that had requested if they want to have a
milk bottle for their babies or their kids, And it
was a very sweet moment to see his little girl
drinking milk alongside with him and his wife and his dad.

Speaker 5 (14:02):
I believe.

Speaker 1 (14:02):
So you know the other thing, and I go back
to I always tell this story. You've heard me tell
it one hundred times. I apologize, But the story that
I always tell on the tradition where it began of
the dumping of the milk. Yes, that was Elio Castro
Nevis was the first to do that, but it really
took off when Dan Weldon won the race and did it,
and somebody got a picture and it was like a

(14:23):
perfect symmetrical the way it went over him. And thus
the tradition began of the dumping of the milk. And
I know that that, and there are traditionalists that are like,
come on, man, just drink the milk. Alex Pullout broke
the tradition, and you guys appreciated that.

Speaker 5 (14:37):
Ye, yeah, it was neat.

Speaker 6 (14:38):
You know what's cool though, What I didn't know until
somebody sent us a picture because I have not been
able to go yet, is at the Ims Museum some
helmets of previous of IndyCar winners, and on the helmets
you can see the milk residu still on the helmet.

Speaker 1 (14:51):
Usually.

Speaker 5 (14:52):
Yeah, they're really cool.

Speaker 6 (14:53):
And so you see some of the previous winners who
really went for that milk. For like, they have Joseph's
from his first win, and then they have Joseph from
the second because obviously the second year he just did
a traditional drink.

Speaker 5 (15:04):
He didn't pour it over him. But it's cool to
go and look.

Speaker 1 (15:06):
At because they throw it everywhere.

Speaker 7 (15:08):
Oh yeah, yeah, I've.

Speaker 1 (15:09):
Always wondered about that though. Just in terms of the
fire suit itself, how long does it before they can
clean mind?

Speaker 5 (15:15):
Yeah, that is one title I do not have.

Speaker 1 (15:18):
How do they pick the I mean I know this,
but for our listeners, how do they select that? Where
the milk comes from that goes to the Indy five
hundred and who the dairy farmer is.

Speaker 6 (15:27):
The dairy farmer is boarded on, is voted on by
our board and a milk committee, a selection committee. You
have to be an Indiana dairy farmer. Of course, where
the milk comes from, that is the secret that is
never told because we wanted to represent all Indiana dairy farmers.
So that's why we never say it comes from this
specific farm. And really we don't know, because the thing

(15:49):
about milk is that it never touches human hands. It
goes right from a cow into a truck to a
processing plant, and so you really it would be very
difficult to like.

Speaker 5 (15:59):
Catch milk from a farman.

Speaker 1 (16:01):
I've always thought this, and I'm not this is different
than milk. But one of the things I've talked about
one of my great conspiracy theories here. You ever noticed
when you're at the gas station and there's the gas truck, Yes,
putting the gas in the ground, so you're paying for
the high premium one, but it's only one truck. I
think that's a scam. I don't believe that at all.

Speaker 2 (16:24):
Like you can tell if you have whole milk, you
can tell it's not skim milk.

Speaker 8 (16:27):
It's true.

Speaker 1 (16:28):
Yeah, I think this gas is all the same. Who
would know the difference.

Speaker 5 (16:31):
I don't know, but I will tell you can.

Speaker 1 (16:33):
You talk to the manager or director of communications of
the Petroleum division and find out.

Speaker 5 (16:37):
But I will tell you on race day.

Speaker 6 (16:39):
I know that there are actually three different types of milk,
and that I believe that.

Speaker 1 (16:42):
Yeah, because they each so each year, the drivers select
in advance what milk they want, yes, and then you
guys obviously look that up.

Speaker 2 (16:50):
Now, do you what is the most common request that
I know I should now?

Speaker 6 (16:56):
It's whole milk? Yeah, by far. It was not always
that way.

Speaker 5 (17:01):
There was a time where two percent skim were very popular.

Speaker 1 (17:04):
Do you think it's for the photo because they realized
that the white is so much richer in the photos.

Speaker 6 (17:08):
I think it's that you just have some drivers that
are very passionate about whole milk, and you know, really
that's gonna They always say they're sticking to the tradition
which started with buttermilk, but that's going to be the
closest to them and their eyes of the buttermilk would
be a whole milk.

Speaker 5 (17:23):
So I think it's just swaying that way.

Speaker 1 (17:25):
Indiana State Fairs where we are it is opening day
today here. Last night Colt's first night practice, Anthony Richardson
did play well there were others that did as well.
We will get into that, including those that were lined
up against him. It wasn't that Daniel Jones played poorly.
It just it was that Richardson probably did look a
little bit more in rhythm of the two yesterday eighty

(17:45):
Mitchell hats and catches yesterday. I think there probably was
some thought that he was slow a little bit after
a good start of the week. But we'll get into
all of that. Evan Bowingen to join us two o'clock today.
We are here with Brooke Williams, the director communication that's
right for the American Dairy Association of Indiana at the
Dairy Bar.

Speaker 2 (18:05):
So this particular week or two weeks for you, I.

Speaker 1 (18:09):
Would imagine this is like the month of May for example,
for Alex Polo or others. And the fact that this
is your NonStop time, right, how long the fair goes until.

Speaker 6 (18:21):
When August seventeenth, and we are open nine am to
nine pm every day except Mondays?

Speaker 1 (18:27):
Really okay? And then so every day except Mondays nine
am to nine pm.

Speaker 2 (18:32):
Dumb question? Does the menu change throughout the course of
the day.

Speaker 1 (18:35):
Are there items that you get earlier the day that
are not available at night or is it the same
for twelve hours?

Speaker 5 (18:40):
It is the same menu.

Speaker 6 (18:41):
If you come at eight am, we do serve breakfast sandwiches,
but at nine am menu is the same.

Speaker 1 (18:47):
When you go on vacation, do you find that it
doesn't matter what time of day you're eating? Like you don't?
There are no rules when it comes to diet during
time of day on vacations, especially if you're out of
the country. Have you noticed this? Yes, Like do you
judge if you're in an airport and somebody's sitting at
a bar and at six thirty am wait for a flight,
do you judge that or do you think yourself that
guy just flew in from Belgium and thinks it's new.

Speaker 6 (19:09):
Yeah, I mean there's no judgment. Especially at the Safe Fair.
People are literally having girl cheese and milkshakes at nine am,
like all rooks through that window.

Speaker 1 (19:17):
Yeah, that's the whole thing when you come to the fair, right, Yeah,
speaking a whole thing. Whole milk, be sure to get
it and you can get whole milk while you're here, right,
that's right? All right, well, Brooke, we appreciate it as always.
I'll pop in and get myself a grilled cheese at
some point, and a key line milkshake, which is the
special time I know, and.

Speaker 6 (19:32):
We don't have your Swiss n Rye. Thank you for
not bringing that up. I thought that was going to
be a real point of contention, but we'll just leave
it there.

Speaker 1 (19:38):
Well, I had a therapy last night and I've got
enough and that came up just so you know so.

Speaker 2 (19:44):
But believe me, that's not the only thing that came up.

Speaker 1 (19:46):
By the way, all right, good to see as always
appreciating here and again Kevin Boone, it joins two o'clock today.
Let's get back into the conversation Brook. Hopefully at some
point InHand we'll bring out a key line by milkshake.
Brook will also tell you she will vouch for she
she took off, but Eddie, she will vouch for me
that I make the when I'm serving in the dairy bar.

(20:06):
I am literally the Michelangelo of milkshake sculptures. Brooke, would
you agree to that? Yeah, see she knows I like
literally I stack them. They're brilliant. My buddy Tom Trial
just look at this. It's race day here at the
Indiana State Fair. My buddy Tim Trial just walked by
as well. I used to work with the WRTV. That's

(20:28):
the best thing about the fair. It literally is just
like coming out and seeing friends, seeing family, seeing people
throughout the state of Indiana. Also Fever by the way,
we will discuss with Pat Boylan coming up later today. Eddie.
Don't look now, but you are the pre and post
game host of the Indiana Fever on the radio broadcast.
But this is a team that I realized without Caitlin Clark,

(20:50):
you are always curious where they stand. The reality is
that they're starting to come into form just a little
bit here, but you also have that curve ball of
exactly how how they're going to play when Caitlyn Clark returns.
But you would take it the way they're playing right
now versus the alternative with her out.

Speaker 3 (21:05):
Oh absolutely, Jake.

Speaker 4 (21:06):
I mean they're sixty two in their last eight games,
and for or five of those, Caitlyn Clark has not
been on the floor. She'll miss her sixth game with
that right quiet injury tonight. Still don't know really on
the timetable you talked with Stephanie White earlier in the weekend.

Speaker 3 (21:22):
She made mentioned that they have.

Speaker 4 (21:23):
To get on the practice floor a couple of times,
and Kaitlyn has to practice multiple times in order to
get back into the floatings.

Speaker 3 (21:28):
And just with where the schedule is.

Speaker 4 (21:30):
At right now, they have five games and a day
off in between. Each of these games are on the
West Coast for the first of Fortnite, they go to Dallas,
and then they're on the West Coast actually technically for
three games, so it'll be interesting to see. But yeah,
Aery McDonald comes up big for them in their game
two nights ago Alia Boston was terrific in the fourth quarter.
And it just kind of feels like Jake and Stephanie

(21:51):
White was talking about this in you know, camp and whatnot,
that she felt like the team would start coming together
around the All Star Breaker, after the All Star.

Speaker 3 (21:59):
Breaking, and so far that looks like it's coming to fruition.

Speaker 1 (22:05):
Yeah, the schedule itself, as we talked about, that is
intriguing for them is the fact that they play and
Stephanie White talked about this, I think the seventeenth of August,
so just over two weeks from now, is when they
finally get like a five day reprieve. But up to
that point, it is essentially a game either every other

(22:26):
day or every third day, and because of the fact
that I think they want to get just kind of
a multiple consistent day practice run to reacclimate her, so
to speak, and get her up to speed as well,
because I know that that sounds crazy when you were
talking about elite level athletes, but nonetheless, when you are

(22:47):
losing time out there, it takes a while to get
your legs you win back underneath you. But just the
acclamation period itself, Eddie, it would not surprise me because
when I threw that to Stephanie White when she was
on earlier this week, I kind of expected that she
would say, yeah, we're certainly hoping to have Caitlin Clark
back before then. But when I threw that August seventeenth date,

(23:09):
it was interesting that Stephanie White didn't necessarily push back
on that, and rather, I'm not saying that she was
saying in agreement that that's what the game plan was,
but she didn't necessarily sound like somebody that that was
an outlandish stretch of it going that far in before
they bring her back. Is that how you also heard it?

Speaker 3 (23:28):
Yeah, that's how I also heard of Jake.

Speaker 4 (23:30):
And when you look at the upcoming schedule, it's very
favorable for the Indiana Fever, and this is where they
have to take care of business.

Speaker 3 (23:36):
They're in Dallas to night, one of the bottom teams.

Speaker 4 (23:38):
In the WNBA. They have the third worst record. They
have Seattle on the road. Los Angeles has played better
even though they are fourth in terms from the bottom
of the WNBA standings. And they wrap up that West
Coast trip next Thursday, so it's four games in six
days for the Indiana Fever.

Speaker 3 (23:54):
Then they come home.

Speaker 4 (23:54):
They take on the Chicago's Guy who have been utterly
dreadful the last two weeks, and they have the Dallas
Swings gain and then Washington and Connecticut. So they have
a very very favorable schedule. And that day you're looking
at Jake August twenty second, they host the Minnesota Links.

Speaker 3 (24:10):
That is after five days off after.

Speaker 4 (24:12):
They play on the seventeenth at Connecticut against the Sun.
So that would be an ideal opponent for Indiana to
get Caitlin Clark back because of how good Minnesota has
been this season.

Speaker 1 (24:24):
When we return to the Indiana State Fair, this is
obviously you know each time you come to the Fair
and they got the people move from moving overhead You've
got obviously the kids for age kids that are coming
out and displaying what they've worked hard on. You have
artwork that's on display. This year's theme for the Indiana
State Fair. Each day is a different theme. Today's theme,

(24:44):
I should say, is be prepared and when it comes
to the season, you want to make sure that you
are prepared. And for a lot of people, the State
Fair is kind of a return to Indianapolis.

Speaker 2 (24:53):
Maybe they live elsewhere.

Speaker 1 (24:55):
Maybe they live, for example, Dave Sellers, who is here
doing our promotions. His great great, great great great group Foundedsburg, Indiana,
for example, so to come home or a visit once
again to Indianapolis when they come to the State Fair.
I should say, there is a player out there that,

(25:16):
in fact, if the Colts were to be prepared at
a certain position and sign him in the last year
of a three year deal that he has, it would
cost him fifteen and a half million, but it could
bolster a position that potentially is of need, and it
would also be a homecoming. But how realistic would it
be and would it be the right move. I'll tell

(25:38):
you who, and we'll discuss next when we return to
the Indiana State Fair. At the dairy bar here right
along the main stretch at the Indiana State Fairgrounds. It's
Quarry Company, a Friday edition on the fan. All right,
it's official. I've got the See if I can put
it on the camera here where you can see it.
See that, Eddie? Can you see it on the YouTube? Can?

Speaker 3 (26:00):
Is that the key lime pie milkshake?

Speaker 1 (26:04):
It is, Buddy?

Speaker 3 (26:06):
How's a taste.

Speaker 1 (26:10):
Like a subtle key lime pie? It's outstanding? Absolutely outstanding.
Do you know who else is outstanding? It has been
for really the totality of his NFL career, and he
is a receiver that is both dynamic in yards after catch.

Speaker 2 (26:26):
I think he's a physical receiver.

Speaker 1 (26:28):
He brings a lot to the table and entering the
final year of a three year deal with the Washington
Commanders that will pay him fifteen point five million dollars
this season. But Terry McLaurin, the former Cathedral Star, has
apparently requested a trade. Now is he requesting a trade

(26:49):
because he truly is over it and wants to move on,
or is he requesting a trade as a negotiating ploy
to get more money out of what Washington may offer
to him. Those are questions that you absolutely have to
take into mind in consideration.

Speaker 2 (27:10):
But there are certain things that.

Speaker 1 (27:14):
You look at all of us where you impulse buy
something and you don't need it, and you know you
don't need it, but you're like, man, I don't know
that I'll ever have this opportunity again, you know. You
you say to somebody, that's a cool sweatshirt, like, yeah,
weirdest thing. I was at the store and it was
actually in the middle of July and it was hot.
Do I didn't need the sweatshirt, but it's normally a

(27:36):
one hundred and twenty dollars sweatshirt, And because it was
hot outside and they were doing a clearance sale, I
got it for forty bucks. I couldn't pass on it.
I had to get it. And it feels to me
a little bit like and I honestly do not know.
We'll talk to Kevin Bowen about this when he joins
us just how realistic Chris Ballard of the Colts would

(27:56):
even be about.

Speaker 2 (28:00):
A thought of acquiring Terry McLaurin.

Speaker 1 (28:03):
And my personal feeling on it is probably not very
because it's not a position of need at all. Fifteen
point five for his for what he brings to the
table is. I mean, that's fifteen point five bucks a
lot of money, but that's really kind of a value
for what he does bring to the table. But you

(28:24):
are bringing in Terry m whoever trades for him, assuming
that that is going to happen, And again, this may
be a ploy and he ends up getting a massive
deal from Washington. We've seen that before as well. But
if someone were to trade for Terry McLaurin, then what
they need to do obviously is you are when you
would not trade for that guy unless one of two

(28:46):
things was the case. Number one, if you were a
player away this year and you got to push all in.
And the Colts have made that mistake before. Now, totally
different scenario and contribution level. But when they went and
got Andre Johnson, you know, Andre Johnson was a guy

(29:07):
that everybody thought, oh my gosh, this is massive. They
went out and they signed Frank Gore and Andre Johnson
and the Colts right then that was when you know,
Griggs is wheeling and dealing, backing up the brinks truck.
And and with that, Andrey Johnson got here and you're like,
oh my gosh, this guy fell off a cliff.

Speaker 2 (29:27):
Now McLaurin is not there, but he is thirty years old.

Speaker 1 (29:30):
And if you're getting him, you were getting him either
a because you feel he is the last piece for
your team that puts you over the top. And that's
not the case with the Colts. The Colts are not
that player away.

Speaker 2 (29:41):
They're just not. You can say they are, but they're not.

Speaker 1 (29:46):
The other thing is, then if you were to go
to get him, then you go and get him with
the understanding that you are going to resign him. And
if he were to come here because you're there are
teams that could use him for a one year run
until so to speak, and you know, Buffalo or Detroit,
you know that need a weapon. It's like, you know what,

(30:07):
that'll put us right over the top.

Speaker 2 (30:09):
That is not the case with the Colts.

Speaker 1 (30:11):
So then if you are the Colts, or you are
Tampa or your New Orleans or somebody that's going out
and getting in because here is a dynamic player that
can change the trajectory of your franchise, You're only going
to do that. You're not gonna you know what good
is that gonna do you for this year? If you're
not going to be a competing team. So Therefore you
you have to get him to resign him, and then

(30:33):
you get into the finagling of money that I don't
think Indianapolis is in the position for because number one,
they do have a decent receiver room, not game I mean,
I mean not like eye popping. But Pittman is a
very good player. We saw what he was able to
do a year ago while dinged up for that matter,
and without a lot of stretch around him to kind

(30:54):
of ease things up, you know, like like, for example,
now what you're gonna get with Warren across the middle
and the softening of defenses in areas that Pittman is
effective and they have if Ady Mitchell is able to
get going and find some footing this year, you have
not one but two guys that can get out behind
the defense, and you have Josh Downs that can create

(31:15):
in space for you. So I don't know that there's
really the need for McLaurin, But I also understand that
he might be that super high grade thing that you
want because there is a it was the bargain by
that you bought in July.

Speaker 2 (31:29):
I get it.

Speaker 1 (31:29):
I totally are in this case, August, I totally get it.
But to me, it doesn't. It would not. I wouldn't
be I wouldn't hate it if they went out and
got him. But Eddie, you tell me if you agree
or disagree. I don't think that is one that sure
he's a great player. I don't think he's a great
player that if he were not a native of Indianapolis,

(31:52):
I don't know that we're having the discussion.

Speaker 3 (31:53):
That's a very solid point, Jake.

Speaker 4 (31:55):
If he does not go to Comthuterra High School, I
don't think we're having this discussion. But another aspect of
McLaurin that is like just off the field, is that
you hear about the things like Alex Smith said when
Alex Smith was with Washington and he was in the
early stages of his career and other teammates like Bobby
Wagner are currently at Washington and other guys that have
played with McLaurin, is that his leadership is something that

(32:16):
everyone values in the locker room and everyone listens when
he speaks because he's just a very humble guy. He
goes out there, he puts in the work, and he
holds people accountable, and knowing Chris Ballard, that's something that
he values and potentially you have to sniff around to
see what it would cost, Like, would you trade Alec
Peerson if they let's say Chris Ballard calls up Washington

(32:38):
and they're like, yeah, let's say Alec Pearson the third
or Alec Pearson a fourth round? Tick, are you pulling
the trigger because you would have to pay McLaurin because
he's wonting thirty million a year.

Speaker 1 (32:50):
Well, here's the thing. Do you think Washington does that
unless Washington knows they're getting nothing for him. Does Washington
Ington trade McLaurin for the Yeah, you'd get the pick,
but you get al pierceback, who's a good player. But
Atla pierces a contract here, right, So Washington then runs
the risk of losing McLaurin for simply, in the long term,

(33:13):
a fifth rounder. I think he's a guy. I mean,
I think he is an upper upper upper echelon receiver.
He's in the top quartile of the top quartile, and
that's rare air. And for that reason, I think he's
a guy that you would have to throw. You would
think that a second probably and the fifth and the

(33:34):
player would be the starting point, don't you think. I
mean Marshall Falk and I know that we're talking about
a quarter century ago, but Marshall Falk in his prime,
Marshall Falk had two MVP seasons left in him and
two Super Bowl runs with Saint Louis, and Saint Louis
was able to get him then for a second and
fifth rounder. So you know, maybe McLaurin, maybe you're right.

(33:59):
I mean, maybe McLaury and does get but I think
you'd have to throw in a second. You know, if
Pierce is thrown in, then maybe, But the I think
we forget how much teams are hesitant to take guys
that have mileage.

Speaker 2 (34:13):
On the tires. I mean, that's the fault thing in
the second and five.

Speaker 1 (34:15):
But it does feel to me like if you were
going to throw Pierce in just because he contractually is
in the same spot, you would have to throw probably
a fifth and then also a second because they would
be weary of losing Pierce at the end of the year. Well,
you know, Alex Pierce may have a good year for
the Colts, and go ahead, go ahead, Eddie.

Speaker 4 (34:38):
I was gonna say, I think that Pierce Okay. Some
of the things that McLaurin does in terms of being
able to win down the field, and it's gonna save
Washington some money because they're already got to be in
this mindset. And I know it's only year two for
Jenny Daniels and he's got three more years team control,
but they've got to look at areas in which they
can save some money against the cap to try to
continue to build around Janey Daniels while he's on.

Speaker 3 (35:00):
That rookie contract.

Speaker 4 (35:01):
And I just feel like if Pierce is going to,
you know, get twenty million dollars around there on the
open market, it saves them anywhere from eight to twelve
million a year if they decide to take on Pierce
instead of somebody else. And Kevin Bowen mentioned this after
the draft in a couple of different times that he's
heard that the Colts got offered a second round pick
for Alan Peerce, so his skill set is valued across

(35:22):
the league and the Colts elected to keep him instead of.

Speaker 3 (35:26):
Taking back a second round pick.

Speaker 4 (35:27):
And I'd have to assume that if Washington is real
and does start entertaining offers for Terry mcluin, they're going
to be looking for somebody that can replace Pierce in
that or replace McLaurin in that way, and I think
Pierce would be able to do that.

Speaker 1 (35:41):
You know, I think actually Pierce. It's interesting when you
talk about Alec Pierce. I think his skill set is
respected around the league because I think there probably are
a lot of football people that you know, understand that
Alec Pierce has been playing that position with inconsistent quarterback play,

(36:04):
and therefore there is more there than what the numbers
would show. That has to be I would think has
to be considered within the equation of the kind of
the value or the assessment of Alec Pierce. But we'll
see what happens. There's another guy actually that could be
hitting the market, or at least the preliminary stages. This

(36:24):
is what happens at this point in training camps, right
is like guys start determining whether they're happy, unhappy, contract negotiations,
contract dissed, all power plays take place. And there is
one elsewhere in the NFL as well. That is a
position that the Colts have been chasing and chasing and chasing,
and it would seemingly be one that you would think

(36:46):
maybe that would be helped. But if last night's any indication,
it might not be a position that Indianapolis has to
look outside of for sixty five to get filled because
they might have it internally. I'll tell you who that
player is and we'll discuss that as well as we
return here to the Great Indiana State Fair. Right along

(37:07):
the midway, we're right in front of the dairy bar
from the American Dairy Association. American Dairy Association of Indiana,
DAVI and Siana are here. They are they got giveaways.
Just to my left, people are walking past. You can
hear the tram run past. It is a glorious and
beautiful day here to be at the fair. So if
you're planning on coming out, we would love to see
you between now and three o'clock.

Speaker 2 (37:27):
We'll come back and I will.

Speaker 1 (37:28):
Tell you what two players perhaps made the interest level
and a guy that may be available waned a little
bit for the colts because they might have help in house.

Speaker 2 (37:39):
We'll explain next.

Speaker 1 (37:39):
We returned the Querying Company here a ninety three five
one oh seventy five to the fan.

Speaker 2 (37:46):
I love by the way.

Speaker 1 (37:49):
You know.

Speaker 2 (37:49):
One of the things I've learned and it's going to
go out to learn this.

Speaker 1 (37:56):
And there's a player that I think is a really
good player that could be available in the NFL. But
he plays a position that the Colts may in a
house have some glimpses of life. And I'll get to
that in just a second. But one of the things
that I've learned is that this just for me, but

(38:18):
I'll share it. Nonetheless, I think sometimes we get caught
up in and we get like in this vat sometimes
of the now, what's going on that day, what's going
on the next day, stresses at work, you know, things
like that for all of us, right, things that have
us down, things that did upset you, whatever it might be.

(38:41):
And one of the things that I've found is like
a real key is every to make sure that there's
a benchmark every couple of weeks, and like a tradition
that you do each year, like, for example, I'm going
on the thirteenth. I've made mention of it million times.
I mean, the White Sox are terrible. They're terrible. I'm

(39:02):
not necessarily a White Sox fan, but a number of
years ago, I just one day said, you know what,
let's just find a random ball club to go and
go to an afternoon day game in the middle of
the week and just go and have a hot dog
and have a beer and watch baseball and soak in
like the summertime or the late summer, the fade of summer.
And so we picked the White Sox and we went

(39:24):
to a White Sox game, and that's become a tradition.
Every August, I go to a White Sox game. They're terrible,
but it's fun because it's like our tradition. And there
are I think it's important to have, like every two
to four weeks something that you just do each year
to motivate yourself to like look forward to it so
that you're not getting caught up in like the long

(39:45):
term picture and rather you're just finding, you know, every
couple of weeks something a payoff to just keep going
towards and moving towards, to keep things moving an interesting
because life sometimes can get you know, the day to day,
it can bug it out a little bit. And one
of those for me has always been the State Fair
since I was a kid.

Speaker 2 (40:05):
And you know, it's interesting.

Speaker 1 (40:06):
Now because the Indiana State Fair, there are a lot
of kids that are already back at school. This always
kind of meant the end of the wind down of
summer for me as a kid, but I love everything
about it. I gotta come. I've got to get an
ira a corn. I've got to do the little people
got to walk through the way. Look, I know, people,

(40:28):
there's stuff being this sare, but you know the little
traditions like that. Now, Eddie Garrison, I would like to
know when you come to the Great Indiana State Fair,
your traditions, your food, your dietary needs aside from the
key lime pie milkshake at the dairy bar or what so.

Speaker 4 (40:45):
I always have an Era corn. That is the first
thing I always get. Now in terms of like an
actual of course, you know, to right, like a sandwich
or something along those lines. It's all contingent upon the
weather because if it's a hot day out there, saved
the milkshake for the and just because I don't want
to be walking around after drinking milk like that, because
you know, sometimes you get bubble guts after let's face it,

(41:07):
when it gets all hot and steamy like that. So
when I get after the Ira corn is largely depended
upon how hot it is outside, like today, I'd go
over and I'd probably get a grilled chees in a milkshake.

Speaker 1 (41:20):
It's perfect. I mean it's just perfect for the grilled cheese, right, perfect,
all of it. So the big news out of NFL
training camp not involving Terry McLaurin, not involving the fact
that last night Anthony Richardson had a good day. From
a local standpoint, there were two other players that apparently
last night we had good moments, and one of them

(41:40):
is Leatu Latu, who you know, a year ago, he
was the best pass rusher in the draft coming in
according to Chris Ballard, he was the first defensive player
taken off the board for the Colts. And in addition
to that, he is a player that was fulfilling a
need or a void for Indianapolis in the fact that
they have struggled in getting to the quarterback with consistency

(42:04):
since the departure, obviously of Freenian Mathis, and they've had
guys that have come in and you know, had moments
or glimpses, but not with any consistency. And Michael Parsons
in Dallas, twenty six years old, a two time All
Pro player, a defensive rookie of the Year, I mean,
elite level pass rusher. He's got just shy of fifty

(42:24):
three sacks in his career and apparently now things are
bubbling over. I don't know, maybe he me Jerry Jones
wanted to shake hands with him, and it's I don't know,
it's just like poppy and can't do that.

Speaker 2 (42:38):
I mean, I've had my experience there.

Speaker 1 (42:39):
But there are reports that Michael Parsons and the Cowboys
now are you know, at some sort of a standstill
where he is somebody that could be in the hopper
or available if.

Speaker 2 (42:51):
Another team should so choose.

Speaker 1 (42:53):
And if you're the Colts, you look at it and
you go, that is a position where we have chased
it for quite some time, and we've been looking the
answer there for quite some time.

Speaker 2 (43:02):
But they might have the answer now because they have youth.

Speaker 1 (43:04):
That quitty Pay is interesting because Quitty Pay obviously has
had plenty of time to show out and has not
done so with any consistency. But I do think still
that he is I think he's a very good player.

Speaker 2 (43:18):
Is he a great player?

Speaker 1 (43:18):
No? Is he a game changer? No? Is he the
kind of guy that offensive lines look towards and they
start shaking in their boots. No, but he is a
guy that, especially if Latsu is creating havoc as well
that I think can get to the quarterback and get
some plays and then you have you know, we talked

(43:40):
about yesterday just their their front line in general.

Speaker 2 (43:43):
I think there's some stability there.

Speaker 1 (43:45):
But having said all of that, last night I think
it was and again, was Leatu Latu finally getting that
first step, finally getting the moves, finally getting himself in
position for the first time with ability, or was he
going up against an offensive line that was struggling.

Speaker 2 (44:04):
You know which way chicken and egg here?

Speaker 7 (44:06):
Right?

Speaker 1 (44:06):
Do we say the pass rush was elite in camp
yesterday at night practice or do we say the offensive
line was wavering? And you can go both ways with it, right,
But you would rather again see that out a lot
too than not. And that's another inst I have no
idea how realistically Micah Parsons would be and how realistic

(44:30):
it would be that he is available, but you would
if in fact he was available. He is I think
somebody that could intrigue Chris Ballard. But I go back
to I don't know that this is a team right
now that you make mortgaging of the future moves towards

(44:50):
because they are not a player or two away now.
I mean, they certainly can be competitive, and I think
they will be competitive and can be divisionally competitive. But
in terms of are they right on the cusp of
a Super Bowl that I don't think the division yes,
But again, they're playing in the division that is the

(45:12):
junk drawer of the NFL, right, I mean, that's just
the reality of it. By the way, Eddie, since I
mentioned today, there's a guy walking past right now. When
you see San Diego T shirt, he'd be the first
to tell you you see San Diego, Dad. He's walking
past his thumb Sir, This weather out here is just
like San Diego, is it not.

Speaker 2 (45:28):
He just nodded his head. See, Eddie, I'm telling you you.

Speaker 1 (45:31):
Think that I make this stuff up about the fact
that this is like this in San Diego.

Speaker 3 (45:38):
I will say this trying to enjoy the state fair.

Speaker 1 (45:42):
Yeah, he was moving briskly, and I will say his
stride did not slow upon my yelling at him. He
continued to move briskly. He did not necessarily acknowledge in
any way they or formed the fact that I was
calling him out for that, although he did give me
a thumbs up on the U see San Diego shout out.
It's perfect out here. I mean it's absolutely perfect. You know,

(46:03):
you cannot ask for better weather. It is. The temperature
is especially considering it literally four days ago it was
one hundred and nine degrees outside and now all of
a sudden, you come out here, it's perfect. But coming
past the lunch crowd was there for the dairy bar.
There's still a line, you know, twelve deep at each

(46:24):
window at the dairy bar. And why not because you
got everything there, including the key Lin Pine milkshake.

Speaker 3 (46:29):
Do we know when you're serving yet?

Speaker 2 (46:30):
You love everything about it?

Speaker 1 (46:31):
But Eddie, I don't I always do that on a whim,
to be honest with you, Just yeah, I'll be out
there and then we come out and it's always the
kids from Cambridge City Lincoln that I'm serving with, and
they're out here today, So maybe I missed my shift.
Michael Parsons, Eddie, yes or no? You would have interest, oh,
one hundred percent.

Speaker 4 (46:48):
I mean he's arguably the best pass rusher in the NFL,
and that would solidify things along that defensive line. It
actually has a threat on the edge because right now,
I don't know if, as you mentioned, he's solid.

Speaker 1 (47:04):
Would you mortgage. Though. In other words, if you got him,
does it put you right, does it push you closer
to the doorstep, or would you rather have the pieces
that you would have to give up for him and
the financial flexibility that you would surrender in order to
get him.

Speaker 4 (47:22):
I'd probably sit in the camp if I'd rather have
the assets and the financial flexibility, only because we still
don't know what Anthony Richardson is at the quarterback position.
Is he a franchise guy or not? Like that's what
this season is all up. And had Anthony shown progress
and shown some like glimmer of hope that he can
become the next face of the franchise, then I would say, yeah,

(47:43):
maybe let's go in and let Colts go in.

Speaker 3 (47:45):
And do it.

Speaker 4 (47:46):
But right now I would probably say no, just because
if he goes out and does not have a good
year again, it doesn't show much improvement at all as
a passer in terms of consistencies and decision making. Then
you want to have all those assets that you can
pinsion potentially have.

Speaker 1 (48:04):
When we come back Indiana State Fair here on a Friday,
and there is another thing that happened yesterday, big news yesterday.
A lot of people asked me about it, and we
discussed it a little bit yesterday, and I realized it
maybe is more of a business discussion than a sports discussion.
But when you consider the fact that it's the biggest
sports business in the city, then it merits that discussion.

(48:26):
I've gotten a little bit more foundation, a little more understanding,
and a little more clarification on everything that happened yesterday
with the announcement of Fox IndyCar Ims Productions and the
Indianapolis Motor Speedway, and a lot of people have asked
me about it, which I appreciate, and I'll kind of
let you in on what I've heard or my understanding

(48:48):
of it. I'm not going to say that has one
hundred percent clarity, but certainly one hundred percent more than
I had yesterday. I'll extreme come back at the Indiana
State Fair here opening day. It is Company on the
fan back at the Indiana State Fair, right in front
of the dairy bar. One Key Lime Pine milkshake down.

(49:11):
We have tickets to give away, do we not? Today, Eddie?

Speaker 4 (49:13):
We do exactly have two pairs of tickets to give away.

Speaker 1 (49:16):
Now, Okay, okay, let me ask you when you say
and I think I'm with you on this.

Speaker 2 (49:22):
Pairs is plural, right, yes, so.

Speaker 1 (49:28):
If two pairs, so we have four tickets that are
being divided into two different groups, right, that is accurate.
So is it two pair or two pairs?

Speaker 3 (49:37):
Two pairs?

Speaker 2 (49:39):
Two pairs? I think I agree with you.

Speaker 1 (49:42):
There There are those that would say that you should
say two pair, like that's a pair meaning two of
some other. But but I'm with you. The pair itself
is plural. There's more than one pair, so it's two pairs.

Speaker 3 (49:53):
Right, yes.

Speaker 1 (49:54):
Okay, by the way, you know, speaking of tickets and events,
and that's going to be by the way, drop Kick
Murphy's what is the date on that show.

Speaker 3 (50:02):
That is on Tuesday?

Speaker 1 (50:05):
This coming Tuesday? Okay?

Speaker 3 (50:06):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (50:07):
Everwise, Amphitheater the Lawn courtesy of our friends at Live Nation.

Speaker 2 (50:11):
I'm going to an event tonight.

Speaker 1 (50:15):
We're going to some it's I think it's a oh
it's at Scottish right, and it's a musical interpretation or
rendition of like with an orchestra of songs from Coldplay.
Now do I need to keep an eye on the
video the video boards at this?

Speaker 3 (50:34):
Just don't take your other wife?

Speaker 1 (50:36):
Yeah, that's right. I like if Emily Longnecker and I went,
that would be very scandalous, would it? Not know?

Speaker 3 (50:40):
Because you and Emily Longnecker are married, JJ would be
if you took like another woman, that was it Emily
or Shannon.

Speaker 1 (50:46):
I'm I'm not married to Emily, but strangely on the internet,
if you google Jay Querry wife, that's what comes up.
And Emily's a dear friend, so you know, but we
are mystified by that. Okay, So yesterday the news came
out and let me go back, and I apologize if
this is something of which seems redundant, but I've gotten

(51:06):
a little bit more clarification and had some discussions with
people about this. Yesterday the news came out that the
Fox Television Corporation was becoming buying into one third ownership
of the Penske Entertainment Group. And I realize people would say, well,
what exactly is Penske Entertainment Group. I know who Roger

(51:29):
Penske is. I know about the truck Reynolds, I know
that he owns the speedway. What is the Penske Entertainment Group?
When Roger Penske purchased the Indianapolis Motor Speedway and at
that time when Tony George was looking to set Tony
George approached Roger Penske. And you know, there are a

(51:51):
lot of layers to that onion as to why Tony
George ultimately decided that it was time to move on
from and that his family decided it was time to
move on from the speedway. My assumption would be that
after the passing of Mary Holman, and I think, and
you see this a lot. I mean, I've discussed it
with other sports properties that when you get a something

(52:15):
like that of that sort of that high evaluation, in
other words, a company or a sports team, whatever it
might be, that has that high of a value, the
estate taxes upon the inheritance of that company.

Speaker 2 (52:30):
Can be devastating, you know.

Speaker 1 (52:31):
I mean, it can be such that it becomes a
smarter financial move to sell the entity than it is
to pay the taxes to maintain the entity. I don't
know factually, but I strongly assumed that that was the
case in the motivation for Tony George and the Home
and George family to sell the Indianapolis Motor Speedway. So
at the time that they were doing that, after the

(52:52):
passing of Tony George's mother. It was Roger Penske that
he approached, and Roger Penske in order to buy the
Indianapolis Motor Speedway. Tony George also and the Holme and
George family also owned the IndyCar Series and so they
basically said to Roger Penske, and I think it was
part of the discussion of the sale of the speedway.

(53:16):
Is obviously a huge property and a huge value. The
IndyCar series was one that was still trying to find
its footing from a financial standpoint, so I think, and
inheriting or buying also the risk financially of the IndyCar
Series along with the speedway impacted to the favor of

(53:36):
Roger Penske the price that he paid for it, and
so therefore he purchased the Indianapolis Motor Speedway. There is
no concrete number or understanding of number of what he
bought it for. Most reports that I think are within
the ballpark of accurate are around three hundred and fifty
million dollars. I don't know that factually, but that seems
to be a pretty good guest of it from people

(53:58):
on that theoretically would know or have an idea of
roughly what he paid to become the owner of the
Indianapolis Motor Speedway, and that also meant that he was
the owner of the IndyCar Series. So his corporation started
a new division called the Penske Entertainment Group, and at
that time that the Penske Entertainment Group was overseeing the

(54:23):
Indianapolis Motor Speedway, the IndyCar Series, and then as well
the third division that was owned that was part of
the purchase, which is the Indianapolis Motor Speedway Production Company,
which is a television production company. It owns TV cameras,
it owns and facilitates for the production of television programs
and live sports programming. And most of what you see

(54:44):
in terms of coverage of the IndyCar Series is produced
behind the scenes, put together. The sausage is made at
IMS Productions. So Penske Entertainment Group became the owner of
all three of those things. When the Pennske the Entertainment Group,
in addition to owning the series, it became a promoter.

(55:07):
That company basically started its own division internally of promoting
some of the races that didn't have a promoter naturally.
The Iowa Speedway is a good example of that, and
they did a fantastic job. Penske Entertainment and the IndyCar
Series did a fabulous job in partnering with high V

(55:28):
and promoting that Iowa doubleheader, and Fishcrunn was the one
in charge of it and was spectacular, spent a lot
of time at.

Speaker 2 (55:35):
Iowa connected with the fans there.

Speaker 1 (55:37):
High V as a sponsor, was bringing in concerts and
it was a destination entertainment weekend for the people in.

Speaker 2 (55:45):
The state of Iowa.

Speaker 1 (55:46):
And so IndyCar promoting that, and then High V got
a new CEO backed out, and IndyCar then was trying
to promote it without that corporate sponsorship backing. And I
think what happened then is they realized that with all
of the other entities that they have, that promoting races
was something that they were better getting an outside source

(56:07):
to do it, and they began looking for companies they
could hire to promote races. That happened concurrently with Fox
coming in and saying, look, you guys are trying to
promote the race in Iowa. You're trying to be the
promoter for the race in Nashville. You heard Tony Stewart
yesterday when he's in studio with us talking about being
a race promoter and the challenge sometimes of being a promoter.

(56:28):
It's not the easiest thing in the world, coming up
with scheduling and coming up with marketing and promotion and
all of those things. And it's not that IndyCar isn't
capable of doing it. It's that IndyCar has people already
designed to other areas of things that it became more
and more difficult to then focus on that area of it.
So I believe what happened and what was explained to

(56:51):
me is that this was more an investment than a
buy in. So in other words, Fox essentially, in discussion
with IndyCar and with the Penske Entertainment Group, said look,
we're in the market of promotion because we are a
television network and a television conglomerate. We are constantly utilizing
television and multimedia platforms to promote what it is that

(57:14):
we do. Whether you're talking about The Simpsons or you're
talking about NFL on Fox, we are consistently promoting things,
and the IndyCar series, I believe in Penske Entertainment basically said,
wait a minute, if you're willing to kind of take
over the promotion leg of this and help out with

(57:34):
this one of the areas where we need bolstering, and
that would be the finances of it and the finances
of the marketing. And so Fox I think basically said
we will make an investment into your property because we
believe in it. Fox is run currently by a native
of Indiana who grew up near John near JMV. Eric Shanks,

(57:55):
who has a passion for IndyCar and so they I
think came to Skan Entertainment and said, we believe in
what you guys are doing, and we think that you
have the formula, we like the racing, we like the personalities,
we like the markets you're in. But the one thing
that needs bolstering is just the overall promotion and the

(58:19):
wide cast net to throw out there to try to
lure people into it, especially in an era and an
environment where there are a million viewing and entertainment options.
So we are willing to assist in and grow that
promotion for our own benefit. It's a huge win for
Fox if it takes off, because Fox is the television partner,
and so Fox wants return on investment of Hey we're

(58:43):
going to spend this money to make more money. We're
going to spend this money to grow the product. We're
going to spend this money to get people to know
about the race in Nashville, Tennessee, to know about the
race at the Portland International Raceway, to know about the
races in Milk. And yes, there are promotional groups. Green
Savary is one of them that promotes some of the races.

(59:06):
But basically what you saw was Fox saying we want
to be one of your promoters, and we're willing to
buy into that so that to incentivize us to promote
it accurately. We are buying into a one third ownership
so that we get a slice of the return on
the investment of the promotion of it. And I don't

(59:30):
think at least in the and this is a question
a lot of people have, and I understand the question.

Speaker 2 (59:37):
I do not believe that in the short term, And.

Speaker 1 (59:40):
Maybe I'm naive, maybe I'm naive, but I don't believe
in the short term that you are going to see
seismic or visible changes to the operations of the way
things are run. Now, will it change the race times
or you know, are some of the schedules going to
be catered towards the television aspect of it, of course,

(01:00:01):
I mean I would imagine, and that's always been the case,
to be honest with you, that's always been the case.
But are they going to change the races themselves like
they did with NASCAR into stage racing and things like that,
like Tony Stewart talked about, to benefit and bolster the
in race television viewing and attracting and keeping your audience
more so than in years past.

Speaker 2 (01:00:22):
I can't rule that out.

Speaker 1 (01:00:23):
But in terms of the infrastructure of it, and maybe
I'm speaking now to a nuanced group of people that
actually see or feel impact with the day to day
in the offices and the clerical aspect of the properties.

Speaker 2 (01:00:37):
But at least as.

Speaker 1 (01:00:39):
Of yesterday, internally, the discussion was that those things would
not see great change. Those things would not be impacted
because this was an investment more than it was a
buy in. Fox was not trying to buy decision making access.
They were trying to buy into profit gaining access, and
sure that leads to the other a little bit. Now, Eddie,

(01:01:03):
I would like for you as the because you have
the largest cranium of anybody at the station. So therefore
I would assume also the largest intellectual capability. I'd like
for you to grade A to F on my ability
to illustrate that without like getting way too lost in
the weeds and speaking way too esoterically to like a
one percent that actually understood what I just said.

Speaker 3 (01:01:25):
I'm pretty sure that was a nice cell at B
B plus.

Speaker 1 (01:01:28):
Okay, that's cool. I can live with that. You know
what's an A, by the way, is the key Lime milkshake. Oh,
the key Lime pie milkshake is an absolute A. I'm
telling you everything at the American Dairy Association of Indiana
is an absolute A. Here at the Dairy Bar is
where we are right at the opening day of the
Indiana State Fair. They got the grilled cheese, they got
cheese sticks, they have milk, they have milkshakes, I mean,

(01:01:49):
and the key Lime Pie shake is the theme this year.
Last year, you heard Brooke Williams say that last year
the highest selling milkshake was the blueberry I should have
asked Brook because last year the blueberry shake was the
specialty shake and it unseated chocolate for the number one seed.
Now and I should have asked her if the means
they brought it back on the menu this year. It
would have made perfect sense, wouldn't it.

Speaker 3 (01:02:09):
Eddie, It would make perfect sense.

Speaker 4 (01:02:11):
Now you need to ask her about the daily sales
to figure out which day they made they were most
profitable and figure out if that was the day that
you were serving.

Speaker 1 (01:02:20):
Also, well, that goes without saying it costs without saying, right,
I mean the line wraps around the place. When you
can tell when I'm serving at the Indiana Dairy Bar,
you can tell because people say, like, yeah, the line
was backed up for the Ferris Field, So no, no, no,
it's not for the Ferris Feel that's still the milkshake
line from the query window. And Derek Schultz is there too,

(01:02:40):
but unless last year he forgot the step stool, so
you couldn't tell that he was there. But when you
come into the window, people knew I was there. They
had the big sign out front and everything. Colts last
night practiced at Grand Park under the lights. Kevin Bowingen
to join us two o'clock to talk about that it
was a practice that there was a lot to love
about it, and you know what, I thought it was cool. Afterwards,

(01:03:01):
when Kevin posted a video on the station website or
on and the social media account for the station, and
in it he was you could tell actually that he
was like, this is cool, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:03:15):
You could tell that he enjoyed it.

Speaker 1 (01:03:18):
And there's something about and it's I know that they
have had late afternoon practices and they've had practices that
have gone into the non daylight hours, which is good,
especially in the heat. But that was a truly under
the lights, like Friday night lights type field, even though
it was Thursday. And then afterwards it was cool to
have the fireworks followed by the light show. And you know,

(01:03:41):
for Jim, you know in the light show that they
did the drone light show. It was very cool and
I think it's the best thing about it.

Speaker 2 (01:03:51):
I totally understand this.

Speaker 1 (01:03:53):
You know, the Colts are the Colts are a beloved
part of this community.

Speaker 2 (01:03:58):
Obviously, it goes without saying.

Speaker 1 (01:04:00):
And during the Pacers run, I was saying that, you know,
the Pacers are this town's birthright child, and the cults
are the one that's kind of like the adopted child.
And that's not to say you love the adopted child
any less, don't misquote me there, but you get what
I'm saying like it obviously is one that has history elsewhere,

(01:04:21):
but it kind of doesn't now. I mean, they have
obviously been in Indianapolis longer than Baltimore and you haven't. And
this is what you aspire for with any franchise. What
you want with any franchise is you want generationally now
for people to know no different than that franchise being
here and being viable, and you now have, let's face it,

(01:04:42):
anybody mid forties and under has known no different than
the Indianapolis Colts, and you want for them to then
have their kids fall in love the same with that
franchise because they saw the same level of competitiveness, the
same excitement, the same you know, anticipation each year that

(01:05:02):
you saw when you were a younger person. And part
of how you do that. And I understand and I
respect that not every fan, not every family, not every
fan base can afford the increasingly rising costs of NFL games.
I mean it's expensive going to the NFL, you know,
going anything. Somebody last night mentioned and I thought this

(01:05:23):
has to be wrong. Yesterday, I'm sitting there scrolling and
I see someone mention that they were wanting to go
to the Kansas Missouri football game. Kansas and Missouri, Okay,
I mean Kansas and Missouri are big rivals if you
live in Kansas City. Kansas and Missouri is like Indiana
Purdue here. It's a big rivalry. But the football programs
are probably the equivalent of the bucket game, right. It's

(01:05:45):
not exactly your criminalo Kram. I know Kansas has had
good teams lately. Missouri obviously now has had good you know,
they've been a good program. But the camp I looked
it up because I thought this has to be a lie.
I got on a ticket site yesterday and ticket it's
for the Kansas Missouri college football game. Eddie. I'm gonna
let you look up right now, go to a secondary

(01:06:06):
market ticket site, okay, and look up for me the
least expensive ticket to go see the University of Kansas Jayhawks,
who are a top five losing his program in college
football history. Yeah, I know Gail Sayers went there. I
know Tony Sands had a game where he rush for
four hundred and six yards once in the early nineties.
I know that. You know, they've had some some d

(01:06:28):
They had that big fat guy that led in the
prominence for a year and then he was like wiping
himself with towels and throwing it on guys and got fired.
And then you know, Missouri had Chase Daniel Kellen Winslow
went there. I get it. Missouri's had moments where they've been,
you know, pretty darn good, and they in particular. Okay,
give me the Kansas and Missouri now the reason there's

(01:06:50):
a reason I mentioned this on radio in Indianapolis, Indiana,
Kansas and Missouri and football Eddie. First, give me the
date when this game is taking place. It is one
six okay, September sixth. Now is that a weekend night
or is that a week night?

Speaker 3 (01:07:05):
That is a Saturday afternoon at three thirty east?

Speaker 1 (01:07:09):
Okay, three thirty in the afternoon, and this game is
taking place. Is it in Columbia, Is it in Lawrence
or is it in like Arrowheads.

Speaker 3 (01:07:14):
It is in Colombia at Memoriga Stadium.

Speaker 1 (01:07:16):
So this is this is Columbia, Missouri Memorial Stadium. But
see the Missouri Tigers taking on the Kansas Jayhawks. It's
an SEC big twelve game. Okay, what is the least
expensive ticket to get into this pillow fight? This pillow
fight between Kansas and Missouri. What what is the least
expensive ticket?

Speaker 3 (01:07:35):
Two hundred and forty three dollars.

Speaker 1 (01:07:38):
That's the least expensive ticket to get into this game. Yes,
so you want to take two and that and that's
probably even before fees. So you want to take two
people to that game? You're looking at five hundred bucks?

Speaker 2 (01:07:47):
Right, yep?

Speaker 1 (01:07:49):
What is a what's the least expensive lower level seat
for this game? Kansas and Missouri?

Speaker 4 (01:07:57):
U you're looking at it's two hundred and fifty ish?

Speaker 1 (01:08:03):
Okay, so so same area because when I looked yesterday,
it literally they were like six hundred and eighty bucks
apiece something like that. I mean, it was ridiculous. Two
hundred and fifty bucks for Kansas and Missouri.

Speaker 3 (01:08:14):
If you want to sit at the end zone, it's
five hundred and thirty dollars.

Speaker 1 (01:08:18):
And here's the thing, it's Kansas and Missouri, so you're
the only one in the end zone. They ain't coming
down near you. Right.

Speaker 3 (01:08:22):
We didn't talk to Jolie Ericson about this.

Speaker 2 (01:08:25):
I mean, it's a phenomenon.

Speaker 1 (01:08:27):
But my point being, like ticket prices, it's expensive to
go to things now, and I understand for a lot
of families it's expensive to go to an NFL game.
It is not only a financial commitment, it's oftentimes an
entire day commitment because it's a it's a day long event.
I mean you're literally getting up at nine in the
morning and you're going down and if you're taking the kids,
you're not necessarily tailgating, you know, all hours.

Speaker 2 (01:08:49):
But it's a long event, and that long event.

Speaker 1 (01:08:55):
Is expensive, and so for a lot of people if
you are wanting and for the Colts are smart for this,
the cults are smart for taking a situation like that
and saying, Okay, let's do a night practice and make
it as family friendly as possible with the fireworks show
and a light show at the end and everything else
to entice people to come as a family and their

(01:09:17):
chance to see the Colts that may not be able
to afford so from a financial or a time standpoint
in the course of the regular season.

Speaker 2 (01:09:25):
And then for the players.

Speaker 1 (01:09:28):
It's a benefit because I think that was a flurry
of activity that they were doing, and they were literally
those players last night.

Speaker 2 (01:09:36):
We're having moments. Shane Steiken talked about it.

Speaker 1 (01:09:39):
A real goal for the Colts this year is to
be better in flurry, chaotic, hectic situations. And you saw
some of that last night. You saw Leatu Latu rushing
the quarterback. You saw Tyler Warren make a great catch,
you saw the receivers making plays. And we haven't even
talked really at all in this camp about the running game.

(01:10:01):
It's almost like it's just a given that you know
that Jonathan Taylor is going to be a great player
for them, but they've got a young rookie running back
that I think is going to be able to spell
him and that people are excited about. You know, there's
a lot to my man right here where a North
Central Panthers had I love it, hailar Panthers and he
stuck his tongue out at me. Come on now. But
you know, the last night I just thought was a

(01:10:23):
cool environment. But it also accomplished on and off field
what it is that you want from it. And that's
to me, the thing that was cool. And you could
tell and Kevin's get joints coming up two o'clock, but
you could tell absolutely that you know people that Kevin
enjoyed it, that Kevin was excited by it. Hey, Jake,

(01:10:47):
college football, more than any other sport is driven out
of their alumni base. I get it, and I get
an nil people, you know, I totally get it. They're
probably college football ticket prices have probably gone up twofold
number one because they need to a lot of these
programs with nil. Now you truly are talking about return
on investment. You are investing above and beyond just scholarships

(01:11:10):
for players, and so that is going to impact ticket prices.
And number two, there are a lot of alumni now
that you know. The cheesiest movie I thought, one of
the cheesiest movies ever made. It's like embarrassingly bad. It's
embarrassingly bad, and I'm probably in the minority on this.

(01:11:31):
I thought Blue Chips was so bad and hokey and
dumb and cheesy. But Blue Chips, thirty plus years ago
was actually a precursor to exactly where we are now.
Because when Happy says to Coach Bell, like I own you.
I bought these players and I own you Happy the
fan in Blue Chips. Spoiler alert by the way, if

(01:11:52):
you haven't seen the movie, it was out thirty two
years ago. Happy, because he is a rabid fan alum,
is funneling money to players, and as a result of that,
he feels like it entitles him to an ownership or
an access to the program. And I think you're gonna
start seeing these ticket prices going up because you have

(01:12:13):
alumni that are like, no, no, no, you don't understand,
like I gave that quarterback X amount of dollars or
I made this contribution because you said you needed this recruit,
which means I better be at that game. And so
the schools know, okay, in that case, then they're going
to buy a ticket or they feel that they need
to be there, they feel that they are a part

(01:12:34):
of it, and so they're going to buy into whatever
it costs to get in. And that's going to increase
the demand for tickets, the willingness of what people are
willing to pay for tickets. But it is expensive to
go to these events now totally. And Kansas Missouri two
hundred and fifty bucks. I mean, there are two things

(01:12:56):
that are a real buzzkill about that. The first being
that you're out five hundred bucks if you go is
and the second being that once you get there, you
realize you're watching Kansas and Missouri, like come on, they said,
you know Nebraska and Oklahoma.

Speaker 2 (01:13:10):
I mean at least there's like tradition there, right, Texas.

Speaker 1 (01:13:13):
Oklahoma, usc Notre Dame, Clemson, South Carolina. I get it.
Those are tradition games, Kansas Missouri tradition game. Except for that,
the only tradition is the name of the game. Pat
Boiling Fever in action fever actually playing well, one three
in a row. But then we start to ask ourselves
the Caitlin Clark question of when and how does she

(01:13:36):
reacclimate within this roster. Pat Boiler will join us other
side to talk about exactly that opening day Indiana State Fair,
American Dairy Association Dairy Bar. We're just in front of it, Keli,
milkshake's are flowing and people enjoying them. Query a company
here on the fan. Eddie caught me mid bite. This
is fantastic. The smoke goudha q grilled cheese sandwich. It's

(01:14:01):
basically on a Texas toast. Got a little pork barbecue
in there. Smoke good of cheese, thick as can be,
barbecue sauce, unbelievable. Dave Sellers is enjoined one. Sianna's here,
Kelly is here, Cam is here.

Speaker 2 (01:14:19):
Kelly just brought napkins.

Speaker 1 (01:14:21):
Think goodness because that barbecue sauce is a flowing so
too the Keeli Milkshakes, American Dairy Association Dairy Bar State
Fair Opening Day is where you will find us right
now and joining us now on the guest line and
probably wishing that he was instead enjoying a smoke goodacue sandwich.
Is Pat Boylin, who, of course you see television with
the Indiana Fever Fever on a win streak. But again,

(01:14:44):
Caitlin Clark is out, and that is the big question, Pat.
I will begin with that, and that is not necessarily
to ask you right off the top, so when's Kaitlyn
Clark coming back? But rather the things that Stephanie White
or this roster have done to acclimate themselves with out
clearly what is their dynamic player in Kaitlyn Clark. But
they are playing well and they have been able to

(01:15:05):
do so based on doing what.

Speaker 9 (01:15:07):
Yeah, and there's no question, Jake, that the Fever need
her back to ultimately hit you know, the goals that
they want to hit this seedon. That's unquestioned. Indiana is
playing really well without her right now, but at the
end of the day, they still need her. As you
get closer to playoff time here. But in the meantime,
you know, it's amazing to me how well the offense
has flowed here lately. They put up ninety three in

(01:15:29):
Chicago and then did that even better, one or two
times better on Wednesday in their most recent game, and
they did so interestingly, you know, in a game without
Kaitlin Clark, where Helsey Mitchell scored just eight points and
a Leah Boston didn't really get going until the fourth quarter.

(01:15:49):
I think you're just seeing this team flowing a lot better,
gelling together. I don't know that it's one massive significant thing.
I think it's just the process of time and cohesion
and chemistry kind of locking into place. You know, the
challenge with this season not only has been not having
Caitlin Clark, but it's that there's been no ability to

(01:16:11):
gain any sort of rhythm or stability. They played, you know,
four games with her and then four games without her,
and then five games with her in five games without her.
So not only is it a challenge to not have
your best player on the floor, but it's a challenge
to try to figure out your identity and gain chemistry.
And I think you're just seeing things start to lock
in and slow, but a whole lot better. And when
you consider that they put up one hundred and seven points,

(01:16:32):
which is the third most points they've ever scored in
the history of the franchise. If you would have said
that that was going to happen this year, you would
have said, oh, I bet Caitlin Clark had twenty five
points to fifteen assists and Kelsey Mitchell went for thirty. No,
Clark's not on the floor. It was a rare off
game for Mitchell, who's otherwise been on a tear here
the last month plus, which in general, the answer to

(01:16:53):
your question, Kelsey Mitchell's play I think has been really significant.
But you know, in their most recent game against Phoenix,
I just thought it was really noteworthy how well they
played offensively without Clark, without a massive performance from Kelsey
Mitchell and Erry McDonald stepped up in a big way.
But I think you're really starting to see the chemistry

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come together, which this group just hasn't had any consistency
or lineup consistency all year.

Speaker 1 (01:17:18):
Speaking of chemistry coming together, I noticed last night the
radio playback playboys for the Pacers. Mark Boyle posted a
photo of the annual Pacers radio dinner that you guys do.
It was Mark Boyle, it was Scott Fincetmaker also known
as Cookie, who is the engineer for you guys. Eddie
Garrison was there yourself and Mark and it was at
Mama Corolas. I believe he said, who bought.

Speaker 9 (01:17:40):
Mark Bis for those Mark always.

Speaker 1 (01:17:42):
Buy always outstanding and so did Eddie take home seconds.

Speaker 9 (01:17:49):
Eddie was very well behaved.

Speaker 10 (01:17:50):
I'll give him credit. You know, he ordered politely. See
that's the thing Mark.

Speaker 9 (01:17:55):
Mark gives you the ability to order whatever you want,
and sometimes it's that, you know, a play, it's like
a stakhouse where you can really run up a high bill.
But Eddie was gracious in his order.

Speaker 1 (01:18:06):
Okay. I know when I was a kid, my dad
would always say, order whatever you'd like, just make sure
you eat it all okay, fine, you know. And I
was a bottomless pit from like age eleven to fifteen,
so that was all good.

Speaker 2 (01:18:16):
Pat The.

Speaker 1 (01:18:18):
Schedule itself, Eddie and I talked about this earlier and
I want your input on it. When you look realistically
at the Fever schedule and we talked to Stephanie White
about this, it is you know, it's challenging between now
and the seventeenth, There is there are There is no
time where they have I think more than two days
off between games or three days off between games between

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now and the seventeenth. They really packed them in and
his compact and Stephanie White talked about the importance of
not necessarily just an air drop in of Kaitlyn Clark,
but several practices to get going. And obviously with that schedule,
you're gonna have some days off from practice. Does that mean,
especially if they're able to keep things going the way
that they are right now, that they could perhaps push

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it into the seventeenth, when they then get five days
off and that would be a proper time to reacclimate.

Speaker 2 (01:19:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (01:19:08):
You know, it's a really good question, and I think
everything you're saying makes a lot of logical sense. I
just don't have any idea, frankly. And I was actually
listening to Stephanie on your show a few days ago
to try to see if she would drop an Easter
eggs or any hints, and as you know, she didn't.
But you know, I think the one thing you said
there is important, and it is the one thing that

(01:19:30):
I believe ardently in this process, is that they're going
to bring her back and give her plenty of times
practice to get there. So that's going to be your
key to knowing she's getting closer. Is okay, she's practicing,
she's playing, she's attempting and getting on the floor and

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getting involved in numerous practices. I think that's going to
be your sign that she's getting closer. And you know,
whether or not the team playing better at least right now,
hopefully that's still the case when we're talking in a
week or two. You know, maybe that makes things easier,
Maybe that makes you feel like you don't have to
press to push Caitlin back, But I don't think the

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franchise was going to do that anyway. I think even
if you know the team was really struggling, they've got
to get Caitlin Clark back at one hundred percent and
they need her to be able to play the rest
of the way when she comes back. Now, with injuries,
you can never guarantee that, and you never know what's
going to happen here, but when she comes back, they're
going to need it to be for the rest of
the regular season and through this playoff run and to

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not have these four or five game stretches, and then
unfortunately another injury has cropped up, and again you can
only control so much there. I mean, some of this
is just frankly bad luck. The Fever have not been
aggressive in pushing her back. In fact, the last time
I think they probably could have brought her back a
couple of games earlier, and Stephanie White spoke to this,
but they decided not to put her on a minute's restriction,

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to wait until they felt like she could go, you know,
a full slate of minutes, and then another injury just
crops back up. So I think the good thing is
they're more than keeping the boat afloat right now. That
definitely makes it easier. Whether it changes the timeline or not,
I don't know, but I do think you're gonna be
tipped off to when she's getting closer by, when you
start to see her practicing more.

Speaker 1 (01:21:16):
By the way, Pat I aired, I completely forgot it
was not intentional in the photo that Eddie White was
there as well. And I guess the beauty of that
is if Mark here's the beauty, If Mark Boyle is
paying and Eddie White's there, you might as well order
everything off the menu, because you don't have to talk.
You can just eat the entire time because Eddie White's
at the affair right.

Speaker 9 (01:21:35):
You know, it was interesting because we were, oh, I
would say, thirty minutes into getting our entrees and everybody
has wrapped up. And I think the quote that Mark
said verbatim was Eddie, it doesn't even look like you started.

Speaker 1 (01:21:48):
And so you have that. See this this is a
zero surprise to me, like zero surprise, right, And that
didn't even and that was without even anybody mentioning, Notre
Dame and Dan Marino.

Speaker 2 (01:22:01):
So I mean, can you only imagine you know what
I mean?

Speaker 1 (01:22:05):
Thank you, great story.

Speaker 10 (01:22:06):
So I'll give him that.

Speaker 1 (01:22:06):
Don't give him that.

Speaker 2 (01:22:07):
He does, there's no question about that.

Speaker 1 (01:22:09):
Pat Boyling is our guest talking about the fever all
right challenge that is created with Dallas. Who is next
on the schedule that game tonight? Uh seven thirty tip?
Is that right? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:22:20):
That is right.

Speaker 8 (01:22:20):
This is an eye on game.

Speaker 10 (01:22:21):
So we don't have it.

Speaker 9 (01:22:22):
John Nolan, Bria Gotts will have it. I assume Eddie
as well. On the station right here listen on the radio.

Speaker 10 (01:22:29):
Dallas is a really interesting scene.

Speaker 9 (01:22:31):
You know, they've got a lot of talent, but right
now is they're far from a finished product. Page Becker's
is you know, a lot like Kaitln Clark in that
she is drawing a lot of eyeballs. She's a really
talented rookie, you know, maybe not quite at the level
that Caitlin was performing her rookie season, but that's an
extremely high bar. She's playing really, really well. Arique a

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Goombawalle is, you know, just a bucket getter out of
Notre Dame and a really tough player to defend. So
there what I consider dangerous. They're probably not considered good
yet at least, but they're dangerous and on any given
night they can be really really challenging. And I look
at this four game road trip as a whole, and Jake,
I think it might be the most important stretch of

(01:23:13):
the schedule here because you don't have Caitlin Clark. You
are playing well, You're on a three game winning streak,
you're three games over five hundred for the first time
all year. You're in a pretty good spot all things
considering and all the challenges you've had to deal with
this year, You're in a pretty decent spot. Can you
keep the boat afloat here? On this four game road
trip and if you can if you can do that,

(01:23:35):
then you're coming home for three and those next four
games when you come back off of the road trip
are all against teams below.

Speaker 10 (01:23:43):
You in the standing.

Speaker 9 (01:23:44):
So I think it's really setting up for a situation
like this. If you can play well on this four
game road trip, you can come back home hopefully, then
you're starting to think about a return for Caitlin Clark.
The schedule is deeping up, you're getting more home games.
I've made the comparison before, but I really do think
there's a potential for the Fever to experience something like

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the Pacers just did, which is all sorts of injuries
in the first half of the season, the team really
never gelled all that well, and then once things started
to click, they really really clicked. So I think there's,
you know, hopefully an exciting potential to experience something similar
for the Fever here, which is why I think this
road trip is so important. If you can do well

(01:24:28):
on the road trip, even if you go two and two,
I personally would take that. If you're a player or
a coach, you can't think that way. But if you
can go two and two you're three games over, you're
in a good spot. You're coming back home, the schedules
lightening up. I think you've got a real opportunity for
a strong final push of the season.

Speaker 1 (01:24:44):
So I do think.

Speaker 9 (01:24:45):
Starting with Dallas here tonight, you're looking at some really
important games on tap.

Speaker 1 (01:24:50):
Pat Boylan of course you see him for the Fever broadcasts.
Tonight you can hear the game right here on this
radio station. Eddie Garrison will have the pre game as well.
Pat appreciate it as always, enjoy the take home leftovers
from last night.

Speaker 9 (01:25:02):
Likewise, Jay, thank you, all right, Pat.

Speaker 1 (01:25:04):
Boy then joining us, we'll come back. We are at
the Great Indiana State Fair opening day American Dairy Association
Dairy Bar, and we'll recap for you everything that they've
got going on before we talk to Kevin Bowen coming
up top of the hour.

Speaker 2 (01:25:16):
It is quirying company.

Speaker 1 (01:25:17):
You're listening to it here ninety three five and one
of seven five the fan the Indiana State Fair is
where you will find us. We are just in front
of the dairy Bar. To settle that argument, which has
been an age old argument, is it a bar or
a barn? Clearly it is a bar. They serve beverages
like milk key, lime pie, milkshakes, chocolate shakes, vanilla shakes.

(01:25:42):
They have grilled cheese sandwiches. They have the fantastic, fantastic
smoked goodacue.

Speaker 7 (01:25:49):
Yeah, smoke goutaque.

Speaker 2 (01:25:53):
Jenny Pursl. Did I say the last name correctly?

Speaker 1 (01:25:58):
That's how long I've known you, right, I know Jenny
Brown and yes, the CEO for the American Dairy Association.

Speaker 2 (01:26:04):
Of Indiana here in the state.

Speaker 1 (01:26:05):
My apologies on that, but that's how long we've knowned
day right, we go, Well, so, Jenny, this for you guys.

Speaker 2 (01:26:11):
I was talking with Brooke about this earlier.

Speaker 1 (01:26:13):
This is for you like the opening day of Colts
Camp for a Colt speed writer or for the month
of May for me. I mean, this is everything. And
we're talking about how many straight days of twelve hour
days of serving up all of the fabulous dairy products.

Speaker 7 (01:26:26):
Yes, just like the Colts Camp exactly. So it is.
It's fifteen days, so the Mondays are off, but so
we at eight o'clock we start serving food and close
at nine.

Speaker 2 (01:26:40):
So I love it.

Speaker 1 (01:26:41):
And you know, each and every year, you guys come
up with different menu items. We talked about the fact
that and I'm curious of this last year, the blueberry
milkshake that was the best selling milkshake that you guys had, right,
did he clip chocolate?

Speaker 7 (01:26:53):
It did? Chocolate. Chocolate's always the favorite, but it was
first time. I know, the mint cookie kind of was
up there for a couple of years back. But blueberry,
blue blue everybody your way.

Speaker 1 (01:27:03):
You know the difference between myself and that milt the
mint chocolate that you guys had, you know.

Speaker 8 (01:27:07):
The difference between it.

Speaker 1 (01:27:09):
It was rich. I'm not, but I'm curious that it's
nice the blueberry. So did you guys bring it back?

Speaker 7 (01:27:15):
We did not, So we didn't bring it back. We did.
We tried the mint cookie that brought it back for
the second year and it did not sell. So I
think it's just the exciting factor. Something new. People like it,
and then you bring it back, they just they go
back to the chocolate, They go back to their favorite
or vanilla or strawberry.

Speaker 1 (01:27:33):
But this is obviously a staple of the State Fair.
And one of the things that I think is great
about it is the fact that you have different schools
that are involved in the serving within.

Speaker 2 (01:27:44):
But Jenny, in addition to that. I think it's important because.

Speaker 1 (01:27:47):
You get a chance to kind of, especially with young kids,
not only let them know the value the nutrition of milk,
but in addition to that, facilitate and make it possible
for some kids that otherwise maybe are in situations financially speaking.
I know the Great American Milk Drive. You know, their
consistent efforts are there not to make sure that all
kids are getting that balance.

Speaker 7 (01:28:05):
Absolutely so again right now, we have Lincoln and Athletics
here at the dairy Bar, and we have different groups
that come here and then we help staff the dairy bar,
so they usually bring forty plus people with them and
they help us out and then we give it donation
and return. And then when we have different celebrity servers
like yourself, which I don't think, we've set a date

(01:28:27):
for you to come serve and we've then that any donations, you.

Speaker 1 (01:28:32):
Usually just come down and demand it. I just show up.

Speaker 7 (01:28:35):
That's right, Well, you have a backpass where you could
just do that.

Speaker 1 (01:28:38):
So yeah, no, you know in one of the things
that and I love it it is. I was talking
earlier Jenny about you just need to set each year
different little things that become highlight traditions that are benchmarks
to kind of get you through to the next couple
of weeks, like on your calendar of just life in general,
and this is one of them for me. I love it.
I love the fair, I love walking around, and I

(01:28:59):
love world looking and serving up the usually foot and
a half tall milkshakes. I'm very good a milkshakes. But
I mentioned this to Brook earlier. I've done this now
like six straight years where it has been Lincoln, Cambridge City,
Lincoln High School have been the kids that are in
there with me.

Speaker 2 (01:29:16):
Did they commute from here? They don't live here, right?

Speaker 7 (01:29:18):
They actually they actually, yeah, they don't live here that
they're not sleeping in the top of the storage of
the dairy bar. They actually commute. So they meet in
the morning and again that's whoever the leader is. Right now,
we have coach Clent that's kind of leading the group.
And then they come over here, they work all day
and then they commute back.

Speaker 2 (01:29:36):
Can you say the name of the establishment again, please?

Speaker 5 (01:29:38):
The dairy bar.

Speaker 7 (01:29:40):
It is this dairy bar. However, I will play both sides. No, no, no, no.

Speaker 2 (01:29:44):
No, it's a bar, thank you, dairy bar.

Speaker 1 (01:29:46):
There you go.

Speaker 2 (01:29:47):
It is the dairy bar.

Speaker 7 (01:29:48):
That is the end of the discussion, right, yes, yes, yes.

Speaker 2 (01:29:52):
Obviously when it comes to the world of sports.

Speaker 1 (01:29:54):
We've talked about this before, but the American Dairy Association
of Indiana is forever link to the greatest sports tradition
in the United States and the city of Indianapolis in
the milk tradition. And this year I thought it was
super cool, even though I get it from a photographic standpoint.
But you got to give a lot of credit to
Alex Pelow because he did not dump the milk.

Speaker 7 (01:30:15):
He didn't, No, he didn't. You know what, well, we
love it when they take big golbs and also to
the feet, like he basically was sharing it with his
whole family. So we'll take that over the dumping. Yes, so,
but at least a couple of gulps.

Speaker 1 (01:30:29):
He also Brooke had mentioned this earlier. Alex Polo had
requested it. I don't know if he'd requested it ahead
of time or if it was spontaneous but facilitated for
his young I believe it's daughter, infant daughter, right, but
young child to get milk. And so will that be
a new tradition for winners that have children.

Speaker 7 (01:30:50):
They definitely can. So we always have a comment like
a comments area. So they just happened to start. I
think once they you know, the drivers, they all are
in line together and kind of have that maderie. They
just started writing in the special requests. So some of
them put some requests that we could never fill, or
some of them are funny, and some of them are like,
I just you know, for a little bottle for my child.

Speaker 1 (01:31:11):
I mean, it's pretty cool.

Speaker 7 (01:31:12):
That is pretty cool. We'll do that all day long.
And some of them put buttermilk and some of them
put chocolate milk.

Speaker 2 (01:31:18):
So yeah, it is a great tradition.

Speaker 1 (01:31:20):
So too is this being at the dairy Bar right
across from the coliseum at the Indiana State Fair.

Speaker 2 (01:31:26):
Again nine until nine every day, right.

Speaker 7 (01:31:28):
Nine into nine. Yeah, and we do open a little
bit like one window, but nine unto nine and we'll
be churning out the milkshakes and grilled cheeses. And I
think about fifty thousand grilled cheeses, about seventy thousand milkshakes
through the fifteen days.

Speaker 3 (01:31:42):
Glasses of milk too, Glasses of milk.

Speaker 7 (01:31:44):
Yep, we keep a cheap fifty cents for a glass
of milk.

Speaker 1 (01:31:47):
So what's your favorite thing about the fair? Aside from
obviously what you guys contribute, but when you walk.

Speaker 7 (01:31:52):
Around, when I walk around, honestly, the energy, the energy
of an event like this to where it's really kind
of unifying. The people come out to joy. So there's
something for everyone. So whether it's the strong man or
the circus now or the animals, the food, and everyone
has their I guess a little bit like the Indy
five hundred that everyone has their own tradition or the
things that they do. So I just love love that

(01:32:14):
part of it.

Speaker 1 (01:32:14):
It is pretty fun. Now do you ride the little
people right thing here?

Speaker 7 (01:32:17):
I have done it, Yes, I like it. It's peaceful.
So in a busy if it's a busy day and
you want to go out, you can ride right over
all the people and it's really quiet out there. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:32:27):
Yeah, Now you know who's afraid of that's Derek Soultz.

Speaker 7 (01:32:29):
Well you know, but safety first.

Speaker 8 (01:32:33):
You know, he's kind of whittle, and so like the
bar for Derek, we love you.

Speaker 1 (01:32:38):
There's a health risk that I believe, right all right,
So nine am nine pm every day at the Indiana
State Fair you can get your grilled cheese. You can
get cheese sticks.

Speaker 7 (01:32:47):
Cheese's realistics.

Speaker 1 (01:32:49):
That's relasticks. Yeah, a little of everything and it's fabulous.
And again Key Lime milkshakes this year, just to subtle
taste that keylon Bi which is great.

Speaker 7 (01:32:56):
That's right.

Speaker 1 (01:32:56):
I had one earlier already. So that's the first of
like the twenty that I'll have over there.

Speaker 7 (01:33:00):
That's great.

Speaker 1 (01:33:00):
Well, and what I'm serving, if you don't mind, I'm
going to make them two feet call.

Speaker 7 (01:33:03):
I love it. You can do it as long as
it doesn't fall on the customer and then they.

Speaker 2 (01:33:06):
Never had that happen.

Speaker 7 (01:33:07):
Well, there you go.

Speaker 1 (01:33:08):
I'm solid at it. Jenny. It's a pleasure as always.
I appreciate you having me out and it is. I
talk about traditions a lot. That's a great tradition. Well,
I love being out every single year.

Speaker 7 (01:33:16):
We'd love to have your part of the family.

Speaker 1 (01:33:17):
I appreciate that. Jenny Browning. As you know, cow was
my first word. I know Jenny brown and listen, there
have been plenty of them since. Jenny Browning is the
CEO for the American Dairy Association of Indiana. When we
come back, we'll recap what happened last night. At Grand
Park in Westfield. Kevin Bowen joins us other side Quarrying
Company on a Friday here on the fan.

Speaker 2 (01:33:38):
Okay, you had to do it, Eddie. Pam just came
up to say hi. Female.

Speaker 1 (01:33:42):
She introduced herself as female listener number thirteen, and I said, well,
we only have twenty four of them here halfway she
is halfway through the inventory. So Pam much appreciated, enjoyed
the Great Indiana State Fair, which is where we are
right in front of the dairy bar. We now have
it officially from Jenny Browning, the CEO of the If
you got an issue with me calling it a bar

(01:34:02):
not a barn, take it up with a CEO that
runs the place. Right.

Speaker 2 (01:34:05):
She's got the key. You got the keys to the place, right. Yeah.
Those aren't barn keys.

Speaker 1 (01:34:09):
Are they. Barnes don't have keys. That's why people leave
the barn door open. See that's more proof it's a bar, right.
Bar keys is a term, is it not? Yeah? See
there we go settles it even more. Kevin Bowen going
to join just a second from now. I do want
to say I'm sitting here doing the show and this
is one of the things I love about this fair

(01:34:30):
and this venue, you know, growing up here as a
kid and coming to the State Fair, and I think
people know that, you know, I'm I have an appreciation
of nostalgia and history and just the culture of Indiana,
and I have an appreciation for its people as well.
And I'm sitting here doing the show and I look
over and walking up is one of the true true

(01:34:52):
giants of not only our industry, but that I've had
the pleasure to have worked not necessarily with, but in
the same building.

Speaker 2 (01:35:00):
And I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:35:02):
Bob Jenkins, I have always said, is the one person
that has the greatest disparity between his level of accomplishment
and his understanding of his rank because he was so
incredibly humble Bob Jenkins and is fondly, fondly remembered by
those of us whose lives were touched by Bob Jenkins
over the course of his time here. But in addition

(01:35:23):
to that, maybe it has something to do with the
first name, but one of the real, real true gentleman's
and an absolute legend and giant and icon within our
industry that came by to say hi, and I just
love it more than life itself. Bob Kavoyan came by
just a second ago, of course, legendary member of the

(01:35:43):
Bob and Tom radio show that yeah, sure still on
as a rival in this market in terms of the
station that it's on, But there just could not be
a more gentle, more a kinder, more loyal And you
know at the time that when Derek and I were

(01:36:04):
doing the radio show and we're in that building, Bob
Cavoyan treated us from day number one like we had
been his contemporary for thirty years and neither one of
us will ever reach the level of a fraction of
accomplishment within this market that Bob did. And you know,
came over said hi, I looked great, sounded great. He
and his wife Becky were out and joined the fair.

(01:36:25):
And that's the thing. Those are the things that I
love about being out here. I love when people come
up and say hi, and I love when you get
to see somebody who is as dear and as important
to not only me, but to so many people as Bob.
Kevin Bowen joined us now on the program last night.
I thought it was very cool Kevin in the fact
that after the Colts practice, you posted a video recapping it,

(01:36:46):
and I could tell that you had kind of an
appreciation for what you'd just seen, in the fact that
before we get to the football aspect of it, I
just thought it was a cool, you know, seemingly cool atmosphere,
cool environment, and fun for fans to be able to
go and enjoy.

Speaker 10 (01:37:02):
I'll start here going from Bob Cavoyan to Kevin Bowens,
like Peyton Manning to you know, whatever I would look
like at quarterback. So I'll try my best to you know,
take that torch. But yeah, I thought last night was awesome.
I thought of you were at Grand Park, I thought
you got a great bang for your buck. I thought
it was one of the more entertaining practices. Frankly, I've
ever seen just a ton of eleven on eleven activity

(01:37:25):
that threw the ball around the yard and some big plays,
and then you had a really fun fireworks show, a
little light show in the in the skies of Westfield.
So I thought it was really well executed. And I
know I've probably said this before, but I think the
Colts just do such an outstanding job of training camp
teams just don't do this anymore in the NFL. And

(01:37:46):
it's a great facility up there, it's easy to get to,
there's plenty of parking, it's super affordable. Teams just don't
do that anymore. So, Yeah, I thought it was an
awesome night up in the Westfields.

Speaker 1 (01:37:57):
Okay, I'll give you Kevin the the pick here pace
or I'm looking at a guy in a Pacer shirt
maybe think Colts currently on the roster or players that
people are gonna want on the Colts roster.

Speaker 2 (01:38:08):
We're going to discuss both. Which one do you want
to lead with?

Speaker 1 (01:38:12):
Let's go the latter for the miner Okay, players that
people would like to see on the roster. I'll begin
with not the one you think I'm gonna ask about,
and that's Michael Parsons, fifty two and a half sacks,
twenty six years old, two time you know, pro bowler,
All Pro Player, defensive Rookie of the Year, coming out
of college and apparently things are getting icy in Dallas. Now,

(01:38:33):
something might have happened this afternoon since I got on that.
I'm unaware and by no means have I heard any
connection to Indianapolis and Michael Parsons at all. But if
he is a player that has suddenly made available, is
he one that A the Colts would take a look
at and B is it possible that the Colts internally
are starting to see glimpses of the fact that he

(01:38:54):
might not be necessary? Well, how may I.

Speaker 10 (01:38:58):
Think it's very mature to say the last part just
because Michael Parkin is done it on Sundays, you know,
for several years now. Yeah, obviously I play like Michael
parksons you could do wonders for your most football team.
But you know, given how the Colts typically operate, I
would venture to guess it would be a no. I
don't again want to act like what you pay and

(01:39:20):
my off new law too and JC Tuli Malau would
create a situation where no, you know, we we feel
like that we're good in this situation. I just you know,
when you think about draft that conversation, you think about
how much money would be, you think about the realistic nature.

Speaker 1 (01:39:32):
I don't.

Speaker 10 (01:39:34):
I don't see that. I guess being realistic is probably
where I would go more than anything. But yeah, if
they can get one of especially Laws two or paid, well,
I've had really good nights last night, particularly a lot too.
If they can get either of them even sniff, you know,
half of what Michael Parsons has done so far, that'd
be really the best ed eruction season they've had since
Robert Mathis hung it up.

Speaker 2 (01:39:55):
You know, the latter part of a lot too.

Speaker 1 (01:39:58):
I do feel Kevin pretty good about because when I
look at a year ago, and I know that because
of where he was drafted, because of the praise at
which he was drafted, the first defensive player drafted. You know,
people expect to pop out numbers right away. But even
if you look at well, for that matter, both Breenie
and Mathis. You know, that's a position that I think
the timing takes a while of just knowing, like you know,

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jumping route or learning a move, that kind of thing.
I think sometimes it takes a year or so. Aside
from the obvious, which is he was at the quarterback.
What looks different about Latto than say a year ago
in terms of like comfort level or even just the
way in which he's playing.

Speaker 10 (01:40:38):
Yeah, I don't think there was like massive like body
you know, like like a serious focus. You know, hey,
I'm gonna gain x amount of muscle or lose x
amount of what like. I don't think it was either
that from year one a year two. You know, I
don't know how much you would admit this, but it
felt like he hit a rookie wall last year. If
you look at the last handful of games, it just
wasn't near the same sort of production that he gets

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produced the first ten or twelve. And you know, obviously,
going for a college season which is right at twelve
to the full season which is you know, seventeen, that's
not the most shocking thing in the world. So you know,
is it from whatever conditioning standpoint that maybe he can
get to that mark. I thought what was impressive, you know,
from him last night is him he'd be brading Smith

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several times. And you know at UCLA he showcased the
ability to rush from both sides. That's not you know,
a given. When you get a lot of these college rushers,
you know they might just be, hey, I come off
the right side or I come off the left side,
and I don't really have a whole lot of if
you flip who seems to have a little bit of
that ability, So you know, I think that's got to

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be attractive to Lui an Arumo. And again I thought
he had a really productive It's hard some of these
scrimmages for the past rush to really you know, finish plays.
But I would say he had probably three sacks blown
dead and you're you're talking three sacks and probably I
don't know, ish snaps, maybe a little bit more than that.

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I mean, it's a big, big number when you think
about kind of the normal game.

Speaker 1 (01:42:08):
The other player not on the roster whose name is
going to be floated about, Kevin Bowen our guests, by
the way, you hear him every morning from seven until
ten on the Morning Show, along with James.

Speaker 2 (01:42:18):
Boyd and jeff Rickord. So Kevin.

Speaker 1 (01:42:20):
The other name is obviously that of your high school.
In terms of a product, Terry McLaurin, who in Washington,
is in the final year of a deal that would
pay him fifteen point five million. Obviously, if because he
has requested a trade, maybe that is simply a contract
negotiation moved by Terry McLaurin. But if he were to
be moved to a franchise, one would assume that it

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would be with the understanding that you also are going
to be able to sign him and get him beyond
just a one year rental unless he is a final
piece player for somebody, And I don't think the Colts
are a player away your assessment of that conversation and
talking point.

Speaker 10 (01:42:58):
Yeah, I think the cole they're very, very high in
their wide out group right now. There's certainly been many years,
i'd argue almost all of them in the Christout era
where I don't think that statement would have had a
whole lot of merit.

Speaker 1 (01:43:11):
But you know, last night, you.

Speaker 10 (01:43:13):
Know you could probably see a glimpse of that. You know,
arguably one of the better players in the field last
night was Adie Mitchell. He's your fourth whiteout.

Speaker 1 (01:43:20):
So you know, I kind of.

Speaker 10 (01:43:21):
Look at you know, Michael Pittman junior in a pseudo
contract year, Ale Pierson the national contract year. You know
what exactly is that going to look like? And you know,
there's no way, I guess to say this without it
sounding like a shot at Terry McLaurin, because he has
had a hell of an NFL career so far. But
it's wild to see how that age thirty for NFL

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wide out seems to be such a falling off a
cliff for twenty guys. And so if you're the Colts,
you're gonna sit here and say, well, we love our
whiteout group, but we're gonna give up draft picks and
whatever thirty million to pay a thirty year old plus
white out when again Pierce is a free agent. You know,
we'll see about Michael Pittman Jr. Obviously mclaurin's been better

(01:44:02):
than those two. But I just don't, you know, I
actually don't think the urgency maybe is this you know,
wild as it has been before at receiver. I'm curious
to see how things will play out for Sarry Mclaurin's
kind of a why it's a really unique situation. I
don't think you see this too many times in the
month of August, and you know, how is it going

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to go over the next month or so with a
team that you know many are probably thinking can make
a run again in the NFC there. So yeah, shockingly,
I just don't view why your other positions in the
team where maybe you would look at it and say, yeah,
you know, maybe there is a little bit more of
a heightened interest there. But I think internally they still
feel really really good about whether they're at a whiteout.

Speaker 1 (01:44:46):
You know, the the white out position. Alec Pierce obviously
the name that comes to mind when you're talking about
contractual things. What do you think things stand on that, Kevin,
Do you think that's one of those that just it's
kind of an automatic and he gets re signed before
the end of the year. Or do you think Alec Pierce,
without necessarily saying it, maybe looking at a place where

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he can get more quarterback consistency.

Speaker 10 (01:45:10):
Yeah, I think definitely the ladder, And just in general,
what does the NFL market think, you know, I mean,
he brings a trait that is really rare, and that's
the ability to just.

Speaker 1 (01:45:21):
Take the top off defense.

Speaker 10 (01:45:22):
He led the NFL in yards for catch last year
with obviously very mediocre quarterback plays. So I could see
him getting a to some maybe a surprisingly big deal.
And you know, I actually posed this question Rick von
Terry earlier in the week when we had him on
of you know again, Michael Pittman Jr. He will be
in the Terry McLaurin age range contract range next offseason. Now,

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again he's not the player, but end of the second contract,
you know, signed a three year deal. The thought is
get back to free agency for a third time and
really cash in. And so you know, I kind of
pose the question to Rick, just hey, would you rather
have Alec? Would rather Michael Pittman Jr. Two very different players,
and you know, I think he pretty much said he

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would rather have Alec Pierce, you know, and he looks
at it obviously through a lens of Hey, what strikes
fearing me as a defensive coordinator. Well, you know, I
can live with Pittman having you know, seven catches for
seventy two yards in a game, but Pierce pops off
a couple thirty yarders, Boom.

Speaker 1 (01:46:24):
The game's changed.

Speaker 10 (01:46:26):
So that is one that I think is a great
debate and one you could definitely have. And you know,
Ady Mitchell's arrival emergence everyone to describe it, I think
will certainly factor into things as well. But yeah, Pierce
is going to do a big, big payday, and I
can kind of see probably more from his camp not
wanting to necessarily jump at a contract extension if the

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Colts did present him with one. I know, he again
has been a you know, small catch guy in terms
of peer numbers through his first three seasons. But you know,
league wide, if you don't have that elementary your offense,
but you feel like you have a quarterback that can
tap into more of that, that'd probably be pretty attractive
on the open market.

Speaker 1 (01:47:06):
The eighty Mitchell emergence that we have seen Kevin has
that stayed now as the norm or did he have
kind of a breakout and then go back to being
eighty Mitchell.

Speaker 10 (01:47:21):
I guess so far in camp I would describe Mitchell
as super inconsistent, borderline bad.

Speaker 1 (01:47:26):
The first three or four.

Speaker 10 (01:47:27):
Days, several drops in team sessions, and then I thought
this week he was much better, particularly last night, Like
you know, earlier in the week, I think some of
the stuff he did was a little bit more in
kind of one on ones or seven on sevens. But
you know, for those that were there last night, you
saw him down the field make a couple of big plays.
There was a throw that Daniel Jones had that I
thought Jones was simply throwing it out of bounds and

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Mitchell was able to get a toe tap down and
boy that was close, but I'm pretty sure the officials
ruled it as a catch there. So again, in a
team setting, much more or from him, which you know,
that's the issue. It's like, you know, he gets open,
but then you target him and you might as well
flip a coin and you might have a better success
rate than thinking he's gonna come down with a with

(01:48:11):
a Cats. So yeah, I think now you kind of
look forward to, Okay, what's next week. He's been really
bad and really good. What about against an opposing team,
you know, joint practice, preseason game, and then if you
want to spend it forward, if he does start to
show more and more promise, you know, how do you
factor him into playing time? You know, how much does
he cut into Michael Pittman Junior and Alec Pierce send

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a little bit of Josh downs as well. So it
obviously be a great problem to have, but we'll see
how the rest of August plays.

Speaker 1 (01:48:39):
Though. Tyler Warren last night had the catch up camp
true or false?

Speaker 10 (01:48:46):
Oh easily? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, I mean I'd say one
of the best Cats that I've seen in training camp periods.

Speaker 1 (01:48:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (01:48:51):
I felt bad for Jail and Carlive as a linebacker
and coverage. I'm like, dude, you did everything you could have.
When Joees threw it, I was like, this ball is
going to go over Kyler Warrens head and you overthrow
somebody in the middle of the field and you're probably
getting picked off like fifty percent of the time. So yeah,
that was. I mean for a tight end to have
that type of body control, and I mean literally tipped

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the ball up of the left and hallowed in with
the right wall fall into the ground and getting Carlis
was all over him. Yeah, it's definitely easily the best
catch of Colts Camp this year, and I say one
of the better ones I've seen in a while.

Speaker 2 (01:49:28):
Kevin Bowen our guest.

Speaker 1 (01:49:29):
I am lied by the way, at the American Dairy
Association of Indiana's Dairy Bar Great Indiana State Fair.

Speaker 2 (01:49:34):
Today is the opening day, nine until nine.

Speaker 1 (01:49:36):
They're hours for each day except for mondays of the fair,
where you can come and get, amongst others, the key
Lime milkshake or all of their grilled cheese offerings and
the other dairy products. Okay, Kevin, you mentioned right there
the linebacker position. That's one that we haven't talked as
much about. I mean, it's certainly this show we haven't
and I think in general, the coverage of the Colts

(01:49:56):
has been so hyper focused, understandably so on quarter and
then as well, you know, just keeping an eye on
those receivers, the corner backs, the defensive backfield will get
to that there's you know, you got to go now
with depth there, and Chris Ballard dipped into his rolodex
in that regard.

Speaker 2 (01:50:12):
But let's go to linebackers. You have not talked a
lot about it.

Speaker 1 (01:50:15):
Your overall assessment of that group so far through camp well.

Speaker 10 (01:50:20):
So rather incomplete, because you know, here we are seven
days into it, was yet to see Esi or Franklin.
I don't know if the worry meter is super high,
but I don't think it's ideal that the quarterback of
your defense is yet to a practice. He's been out
for I guess about probably three months at this point.
I want to say, had that surgery is kind of
early May, and say second said that he should be

(01:50:42):
back this week, so I don't know, it feels like
maybe that could be happening a little bit later this week.
So yeah, that's probably worth pointing out. For last night, Yes,
the offense had plenty of fireworks, but you know, you
could argue they were missing their best defensive linemen and
DeForest Buckner, their best linebacker in Franklin, and then their
best cornerback in Tavarisward. A guy by name is Joe

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Bachi has been I think pretty good. Number forty eight
for those that have been out there. He came over
from Cincinnati. Kind of sounds like a World Series of
Poker player. I feel like they like Tanda, like Table six.
Here's Joe Bachi here and you know he's got the sun.

Speaker 1 (01:51:21):
To me, that sounds like a closer for the Minnesota Twins. Sure,
I don't know, you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah,
I could.

Speaker 10 (01:51:29):
I can definitely hear that. So yeah, mostly a special
steamer in his career. But you know, he's gotten a
little bit of chance here defensively and has made some plays.
Camber grown the LC product, he has factored in some things.
So again, it's a group that does not have a
lot of resume. The deeper you get in the depth chart.
Even Jalen Carlis, who's a starter, has not played a

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whole lot. I mean, he was a rookie last year
and it fits around pick out of.

Speaker 2 (01:51:54):
Out of Missouri.

Speaker 10 (01:51:55):
So that's a position group that I do think you
have some more. I think at the position group the
Colts largely don't really care about though. I think if
you were going to rank the positions position groups on
the team, they just don't view it in the same
light as some others, which I can get and in
today's NFL you probably don't play as many linebackers as
you used to. But yeah, Franklin is probably is probably

(01:52:16):
the one. You know, for the most part, It's been
a rather quiet injury camp, but his lingering status continues,
and a guy that really has not been hurt much
at all in his cult career.

Speaker 1 (01:52:27):
You know, when you just mentioned injuries, you know, obviously
at corner you got Jalen Jones at corner that has
the hamstring issue. Juju Brentz also has been dinged up yesterday,
And I know you don't read a lot into this,
but they did go out and kick the tires. Did
they out on a couple of veterans at corner? They
looked in what way would you assess that position? I'll
be it an incomplete last night based on those players.

Speaker 10 (01:52:51):
Yeah, I mean, I actually think it's a fair take
to read into something. I mean, anytime a team signs
they actually just signed another corner a little bit ago.
So they find three corners in the last you know
whatever twenty four hours and I think they maybe cut one.
So yeah, I mean last night they had three three
of their top five out. I'd probably label travarious ward

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number one, and then you know Jones and Juju Brent's
probably four or five something in that range. So yeah,
I mean clearly you know their cornerback death is going
to be tested a little bit here right now, and
hamstrings can be very naggy, and I think one thing
to kind of nerd out a little bit about corner wise,
they did sign two corners that are under six foot
and both the corners Hurt and Jones and Brents are

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over six foot, so you know, it's one of the
things where Chris is out again was very stringe at
times on that hypes requirement at corner, but it seems
like they're a little bit more open minded under lu
Ana Arumo to not be maybe a stringent there. They
brought over a defensive backs coach from the Giants, and
Jerome Henderson. He has history with both of the corners

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that they signed yesterday, so you know, obviously familiarity can.

Speaker 1 (01:54:02):
Kind of lead to some things.

Speaker 10 (01:54:03):
But yeah, I mean right now, I mean a week
indo camp and the only real injuries and less I'm
just missing one. Obviously, you have Franklin Is to your
fourth and fifth corner. Like when you're talking about the
two deep depth chart.

Speaker 1 (01:54:17):
Ian.

Speaker 10 (01:54:17):
That's pretty good, especially when you consider some of the
teams around the league. So obviously we'll see how the
health continues to play out, but so far it hasn't
been too alarming.

Speaker 2 (01:54:26):
Don't laugh at this next question, Kevin, You ready?

Speaker 1 (01:54:29):
I mean, I've said some pretty dumb things to you,
mostly mostly on the air for that matter, over the
course of our time in the radio together. And I'm
gonna make I'm gonna ask you a question, and I
want you to answer the question by telling me how
dumb a question it is. You ready? Yes? Yeah, it's
the quarterback barring injury is the quarterback competition over barring injury?

Speaker 10 (01:54:55):
Is a quarterback competition over?

Speaker 7 (01:54:58):
Uh?

Speaker 10 (01:54:58):
Now, I will say you and I at it for
about ten or fifteen minutes pre show. It's one of
the few times I've ever hung up and been like, wow,
Jake didn't say anything dumb to me during that during
that conversation.

Speaker 1 (01:55:07):
There, So yeah, that well, but you did hear me
getting scolded by a cop for going down the wrong
way of a street that I thought I was supposed
to be going the other way. So yes, I mean,
there was the thought.

Speaker 10 (01:55:17):
I thought we were back at the Combine when that
was happening, I go, oh, no, did he forget his
credential again? Is he going to drop? Do you know
who I am?

Speaker 1 (01:55:24):
You know?

Speaker 10 (01:55:25):
No cop at the at the State Fair?

Speaker 2 (01:55:27):
Well, you back me up on this. I was.

Speaker 1 (01:55:29):
I was pulling into the State Fair and he was like,
hey man, you're going in the exit.

Speaker 2 (01:55:34):
And I said, well, wait a minute.

Speaker 1 (01:55:36):
If that's the exit, like your cars parked in it,
So I assumed if that's the entry lane, your cars
parked in it the wrong way. So I assumed that
was the exit. And and give him credit, Kevin, you
heard it. He actually kind of like he was kind
of like, yeah, actually, you know what, you're not wrong here.
Let me let you through, right. I mean that that
basically is how that went down, right, Yeah, that.

Speaker 10 (01:55:54):
Is uh, that is what I uh.

Speaker 1 (01:55:56):
He was cool there, he was cool.

Speaker 10 (01:55:59):
Is this starting court order about competition over barring injury?
I don't know if I'm there with the sharpie just yet.

Speaker 7 (01:56:06):
I mean, I don't know.

Speaker 10 (01:56:07):
Maybe you start writing Richardson's name in ten a little bit.
I didn't change. Second, is more open minded to Daniel
Jones than people want to really admit or I also
feel you can't. And actually with chatting with a colleague
last night on the sideline too, you know, we kind
of had this similar question of like, hey, what are
we doing here? Could we just you know, could.

Speaker 1 (01:56:26):
They just name a starter?

Speaker 10 (01:56:28):
I'm like, can't. I mean, if you're going to preach
competition for nine months, are you really going to name
a starter before you even face another team in the
pre season. It kind of seems to go against like
the whole competition, competition, all of that. It's like, well,
you know, I'd probably like to see Richardson go against
Baltimore and maybe even Green Bay as well, and of
course throw in the preseason game. So yeah, I do

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think Richardson has done a nice job.

Speaker 1 (01:56:51):
Here early on.

Speaker 10 (01:56:51):
I don't think Daniel Jones has done anything to be
wildly impressive. So I can hear you out, but I
tend to think not yet yet. I mean, you, you know,
whatever you're you're sitting at the mid term, if you're Richardson,
you feel pretty good. But I think you're still a
couple of boxes to the tech.

Speaker 1 (01:57:08):
But Richardson does at this point, Kevin, he has displayed
the the things I think and you tell me if
I'm wrong. But it seems as though from both an
accuracy standpoint and just overall and approach and demeanor standpoint,
it looks like Anthony Richardson is showing the glimpses of

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the signs that we were hoping he would show. Fair.

Speaker 10 (01:57:34):
Yeah, yeah, I mean I I yeah, I don't know.
I tried to channel probably you earlier this week, and
I tried to make an eye doctor analogy of you know,
they ask you to put the spoon over one eye,
and yeah, and read and read the chart.

Speaker 2 (01:57:48):
Which farmhouse is clearer A or B. Yes, I swear
my hit.

Speaker 10 (01:57:52):
Rate on that's got to be Anthony Richardson's completion percentage
through his first couple of seasons. But anyways, if you
had him do that in twenty twenty three, you had
him do it in twenty twenty four, and now here
in twenty twenty five. I'd say if you watch film
on the first week of camp, each of those three films,
you would say that this year is the Fears. This
year you feel like the vision is is better. Now

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by no means it is. It's twenty twenty, but it's
been clear it's been a little bit better from an
underneath route standpoint, and the same thing be true for
Daniel Jones. I don't think either of them have had
a ball picked off in the last three practices, and
I don't remember too many like interceptible balls, like hey,
you know, dB was right there and just dropped it.
So that is definitely not what has happened to th

(01:58:34):
Interesting in years past. So again, will it translate when
you know, you know what gets real? We'll see, But
for now, that is a definite difference from the first
two years of him.

Speaker 1 (01:58:46):
You know. The other thing that is so easy to
forget and I know you're talking about the vision of
twenty twenty, but if it's the year twenty twenty, Anthony
Richardson was only eighteen years old, you know, I think
we forget that this is a guy that is still
what twenty three years old, just turned twenty three years old.
It feels like by now he's twenty six or twenty seven.

(01:59:06):
But this is obviously a guy that that's why he
continues to get the time where people are like, why
are they giving this guy so much time? It's because
time was something certainly that he was afforded, all right, Kevin,
lastly before we let go, and you guys are gonna
be on the air at seven o'clock on Monday. You
are watching for or looking for what between now and
then over the course of the weekend that will be
big topics a discussion for you on Monday morning.

Speaker 10 (01:59:29):
Yeah, I mean, does this quarterback arrow continue to point
in a better direction? Do we see the fifty fifty
sweet continue? Flit continue? They'll go back to back day
Saturday and Sunday here before heading to Baltimore. And then defensively,
we just talked about it. You know, is I R.
Franklin gonna make his camp debut. That's probably what I'll
be watching for.

Speaker 1 (01:59:45):
And that's side of the ball, all right, Kevin, appreciate
it as always. Enjoy the weekend, all right, love.

Speaker 10 (01:59:50):
Me to stay fair. Jealous of you right now.

Speaker 1 (01:59:53):
Love it man. It's absolutely the best, no question about it.
And it's crowded today. And one of the things about
the fair too, you know, so many of the people
walking around, and this is what I enjoy because you
meet new people as well. Not from Indianapolis. I mean,
you get a lot of kids here from you know,
four age kids and farming kids, from rural communities that
are being able to display their hard work on display.
From an art standpoint, I always encourage people, if you're
going to come out to the fair, you know, take

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a stroll through and look at some of the artwork
and the sculptures. Because people that have worked hard over
the course of the year, that's a big you know,
that's a big accomplishment for them and a big honor
to have their artwork displayed. And they're certainly their time
and commitment also should be witnessed and enjoyed for some
of the talent on display here throughout the state of Indiana.

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All Right, we come back. It's a Friday. We are
approaching the bottom of the hour. You know what that means.
It means it is time for a feel good, good
for the hard Friday. And we go back to a
story that I've told you about before, but it happened
again and it's worth celebrating. I'll explain when we come
back to the Great Indiana State Fair at the Dairy
Bar for the American Dairy Association of Indiana Aquarian Company
on the fan.

Speaker 2 (02:00:57):
Bottom of the hour. You know what that means.

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heart health. And again I realize that it's something that
when you tune into a sports show, it's not always

(02:01:21):
what you want to hear. Certainly, it's not in any way,
shape or form intended to sound like some sort of
a preach lesson to you or any such thing. But
I just go back to, you know, I felt at
the time and still do feel if I got the
chance at overtime here to go ahead and I had

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a job at that point, I realized, and that was
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Franciscan Health, of course is number one in the state
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women in sports during the WNBA All Star Weekend, the
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(02:02:25):
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(02:03:09):
they got a healthy heart, we want to make sure
that you know stories around town that also are good
for the heart and a feel good story. And we
go back to one of them that I have mentioned
on a couple of occasions in doing this, because it
has now obviously been more than a year that we've
been doing this particular segment on the show, and it's
been gosh, probably twenty years ago when I became aware

(02:03:31):
of and we have talked at different intervals about it,
and you certainly know my next guest on the program,
the Indie Thunder beat Ball baseball team, which is of
course baseball for the visually impaired and for those that
have visual impairment, depending on the level of impairment. There
is an equal balance there in the fact that every
person playing in beat Ball wears a sleep shade, so
that everybody has equal amount of lack of vision. By

(02:03:55):
hitting a ball that is pitched by their teammate that beeps.
That's how you know where the ball is coming in
when you are the batter. Once you make contact, you
run to either a first base or third base device
that then begins beeping immediately upon contact, and it is
very simple. You get to the base as the runner
before the defender finds the baseball, and that is a run.

(02:04:17):
They find the baseball before you get to the base,
that is an out. This has been taking place for
a number of years with a couple of different Indianapolis
teams and then there is a World Series every year
that has teams from around the globe that are participating
in the Indie Thunder. For I believe the sixth time,
and he certainly will correct me if I'm wrong. In
the number of times that they've done this, David Woods

(02:04:39):
has given me a free massage. Here. What do we
got going on? It's putting a microphone on me. I
have a microphone on. We're doing a little video action
here as well, it appears. But now joining me on
the program, Darnelle Booker is the general manager, the all Star,
the founder, the president. He is the Grand Pooba of
everything when it comes to the Indie Thunder and once
again is bringing back to indian Apple Plus a World

(02:05:01):
Series trophy. Darnell, congratulations, man, I'm sure you are still
on cloud nine.

Speaker 11 (02:05:07):
Thanks Jakes, thanks for having me on the program. Thanks
for giving me this opportunity to talk about my team,
the organization and Beat Baseball real quick. I like when
you have Debbie Antonelli on him and all that stuff
talking about, you know, things with people with disabilities and
our good friend Michael Daalmryple who you had and when
he went over to Norfew and everything like that. It

(02:05:27):
all mpeils that we just want to have a little
seat at the table. I know we're a very very
niche sport, but this is about the community as well,
and I thank you for giving me this opportunity in
this platform to speak about an amazing season.

Speaker 1 (02:05:39):
The Thunder had.

Speaker 2 (02:05:40):
Okay, so what number title is this for you?

Speaker 1 (02:05:42):
Darnell?

Speaker 11 (02:05:44):
This is our sixth title, and the sixth title that
we just accomplished last week was also an amazing feat
because we're I think the third team in National Beat
Baseball Association history to have a perfect season not losing
a game. Twenty six and.

Speaker 1 (02:06:01):
Oh, unbelievable. Okay, so you're twenty six and oh and
then take me through just the run itself and what
you were able to do in terms of where the
World Series was and who you knocked off to bring
home the six trophy.

Speaker 11 (02:06:14):
The World Series took place in Saint Louis or Edwardsville,
USI over in Illinois because there was two venues in Illinois,
but it was in Saint Louis, but the two sites
were in Illinois, Caseyville and USI Edwardsville on their on
their on their campuses. So basically, we, like I said,
we were fueled. First of all, there's a rankings committee

(02:06:36):
after the regular season, after all the regional tournaments, and
the Thunder was seated number two with no losses, so
that kind of fueled us very much.

Speaker 10 (02:06:44):
So and uh, we went.

Speaker 11 (02:06:46):
Through the gamut. We had our pool play. We went
three and O and there we played the Lookouts, Oklahoma Lookouts.
The we played the Lookouts, the Sirens, and the what
was the other team in the Chicago Comics.

Speaker 1 (02:07:03):
That was our three pool play.

Speaker 11 (02:07:05):
So we beat those guys.

Speaker 10 (02:07:06):
Then we played the.

Speaker 11 (02:07:08):
New York Bombers and then the Austin Blackhawks, starting double
elimination play on Wednesday. So the more you win.

Speaker 1 (02:07:14):
The less you play.

Speaker 11 (02:07:15):
So Thursday, we played our crosstown rivals, the Indie Edge,
and it was a it was a it was just
a really close back.

Speaker 1 (02:07:23):
And forth game.

Speaker 11 (02:07:23):
It was came down to the very end, one of
our players had a game winning run, so it was
twenty nine to twenty eight, so we didn't have to
We won that game, so we'd go to the undefeated
game on Friday and we play the number one seed,
which was the Philadelphia Fire, and we really really crushed them.

Speaker 1 (02:07:41):
And not extend.

Speaker 2 (02:07:42):
You extinguished the fire, right, you put the fire out.
That's what you did. You were the fire.

Speaker 11 (02:07:45):
But it was definitely motivation because they were won and
then we were two. So we beat them thirty seven
to twenty three. And then we play our crosstown rivals,
the Indie Edge, because they had to win three games
to get back to the championship round on Saturday, and
it was a nip and tech game, but we edged
them no pun intended, eighteen to ten and there goes

(02:08:06):
there with us our sixth title in nine years. But
like I said, Jake, I appreciate the opportunity for you
giving me to this platform because like I said, this
for the community.

Speaker 2 (02:08:17):
Real quick to that.

Speaker 1 (02:08:18):
I want to ask you about this and that is
simply you know, and I know you have you know,
different players of varying you know, skill in terms of
their vision and various reasons why some of them are
visually impaired. But in conclusion, I wanted you to just
speak real quick on what it means to your athletes
to have the opportunity to still feel teamwork, to still

(02:08:42):
feel camaraderie, and to still to still be able to
experience community representation despite having something that a lot of
people maybe would have packed it in once they got
that sort of a diagnosis or that journey.

Speaker 11 (02:08:55):
Well, it means a lot to these guys because they
know that they gives them the confidence to know that
they can be on a team, the leadership, the camaraderie,
whether they can get that job or be successful in life.
And that's what I'm here to provide as a leader
and help them with.

Speaker 1 (02:09:11):
And like I said, I coach.

Speaker 11 (02:09:12):
Ages fifteen to fifty five, and there's cut through nobody.

Speaker 10 (02:09:16):
It's not like Little League or anything like that. You
have to earn it.

Speaker 1 (02:09:19):
You have to earn it.

Speaker 11 (02:09:20):
You got to be dedicated, you got to be at
the practices. So it gives them that sense of confidence
and they know that once once we achieve whatever we
achieve that you know, they're playing for their families, they're
playing for their community, They're playing for the city. No,
we don't get paid, No we don't. You know, we're not.

Speaker 1 (02:09:37):
We're a very very small niche for it.

Speaker 11 (02:09:38):
But it's great to have a seat at the table
knowing that we brought a championship back not only for
our organization but the city of Indianapolis. And like I said,
you gots beat. Baseball is very very very very good
in this Indianapolis, Indiana area. There's two teams, the best
two teams in the world right here in the backyard,
the Indie Thunder on the north side of indiandian Edge
on the south side. You know, we've one. Like I said,

(02:10:01):
we want to six out of the last nine titles.
They want two titles in twenty teams for twenty three.

Speaker 1 (02:10:06):
So we're right there.

Speaker 11 (02:10:08):
So we've actuld Like you said, Jill aston Kin, thank
you enough to give me the time and to talk
on this platform. And I appreciate everything you do for
the community and be based on our team because I've
been knowing you for twenty five years. And like I said,
keep doing what you're doing. Like I said, I'm just
I'm just glad to have this opportunity to speak about us.
For that I'm passionate about Thank.

Speaker 1 (02:10:28):
You so all right, Darnell appreciate it as always, Darnelle
Booker and the Indie Thunder winning yet another title. They're six,
as you just heard him mention, congratulations and again. If
you are not only you know, a fan of any sport,
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(02:10:49):
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exactly that. Mark Dyton's here and I just witnessed something
that I did not think I would see from a
grown man, and so I threw the headsets on Mark,

(02:11:10):
and I'm gonna ask, I'm gonna hold up his journey
of the State Fair with his kids crawling all over
the place because I got to ask, what in the
hell it was I just witnessed. We'll do it next
back at the Indiana State Fair, the American Dairy Association
of Indiana, Derry Barr. We are just in front of
it here at the Indiana State Fair. Apparently they're doing

(02:11:31):
a documentary because David which is filming me. Okay, So
Mark Dyton walking past, and I Mark, how old a
fella are you? Thirty nine? Thirty nine year old Mark Dykin? Okay,
and you're here with your wife and Nora, one of
your daughters, right.

Speaker 8 (02:11:48):
The youngest.

Speaker 2 (02:11:49):
Okay, and I I believe I just saw you drinking
liquid cotton candy.

Speaker 1 (02:11:55):
What's going on there?

Speaker 12 (02:11:56):
So that's the sun King State Fair Special candy flavored beer.
It's delicious. It's delicious and nutrition. So that's about the
second part. So that is delicious. So that's a beer
actually not just a cotton candy drink. Yes, yeah, it's
cotton candy sun King beer.

Speaker 1 (02:12:11):
Okay.

Speaker 12 (02:12:11):
Ashley's got the pot apple whip shake up that is
delicious as well. So yeah, I'm off the clock technically,
so let rain it's some alcohol before we got.

Speaker 8 (02:12:23):
To go get the kids from school.

Speaker 12 (02:12:24):
You're on the your wife's driving. Oh yes, okay, that's true,
it's right. I got a sober up before nine thirty
for I st Oh, you're doing Indiana's pop. Maybe I
should keep going. You're just recapping what's going on here?
What's going on?

Speaker 1 (02:12:38):
Now?

Speaker 2 (02:12:39):
David's putting a mic on you?

Speaker 1 (02:12:40):
Does he know we're off the are in three minutes
to This is going to be the best three minutes
of content they've ever received, right, you know it? Like, hey,
they're doing a show from the State Fair. Two fifty
three to three is going to be the best snape done.
Bring on the Marconi's now, right, you know it? Okay,
so you're out of here. I want to know you're
you grew up in Illinois. This is the Indiana State Fair.
Did you ever go to the Illinois State there?

Speaker 9 (02:12:59):
No?

Speaker 12 (02:13:00):
I think it was in like Springfield, which is like
four and a half hours south.

Speaker 1 (02:13:02):
That makes sense, you know why don't you?

Speaker 9 (02:13:04):
Why?

Speaker 1 (02:13:04):
Because that's the capitol.

Speaker 2 (02:13:05):
Are all the state fairs and capitol to think?

Speaker 7 (02:13:07):
So?

Speaker 1 (02:13:08):
I'm sorry that they are.

Speaker 12 (02:13:09):
Yeah, you never went to the old So do you
like never wanna State Fair?

Speaker 1 (02:13:12):
Yeah? I love it.

Speaker 12 (02:13:13):
We've been here every year since we've been down here,
I think so. Yeah, got a little food and.

Speaker 1 (02:13:18):
Rare is enjoying the grilled cheese sandwich by the way
five of her head. Well, listen, those grilled cheese are
accent that they're awesome because they're on Texas toast. That
is the smoking good to cube, which is a or
good to smoking cue.

Speaker 2 (02:13:32):
But it's a smoked goodha cheese with barbecue sauce.

Speaker 8 (02:13:34):
It's excellent.

Speaker 1 (02:13:35):
It is excellent. So to the key lime at milkshake.
We got that as well. What is your favorite ride
that you do when you're at the state fair? Oh?

Speaker 12 (02:13:41):
Boy, I try to sit out nowadays since the kids
do it. But yeah, I think any of the like
twisty rides or the roller coaster.

Speaker 1 (02:13:47):
Or something, since the kids do it, says the guy
drinking cotton candy.

Speaker 12 (02:13:50):
Hey, you know what, you're never too old to have
a cotton candy beer. You can have one later. I'll
go buy you one. It's right next door. You can, however,
be too young to have cot kid. That's true, so
you know right, please be twenty one. It is blue,
which is interesting. That's I've never had a blue beer before.

Speaker 1 (02:14:07):
Do you have a blue tongue that.

Speaker 8 (02:14:09):
I've never stuck my tongue out at you before?

Speaker 1 (02:14:11):
We'll stop there. We'll stop there. I need to know
no further trust, Please don't clip that.

Speaker 12 (02:14:17):
Okay, so you don't do rides, you said, I do rides,
but it's mostly for the kids, so you know, oh
we do.

Speaker 8 (02:14:22):
We do some of them.

Speaker 12 (02:14:23):
But like they're the angry mouse or something like that.
Oh yeah, yeah, they like that one a lot. It's
like a what's it called, yeah, cheesy mouse or something.
I know somebody that went on at one time and
it got stuck.

Speaker 1 (02:14:32):
No, can you imagine did you see the other day
just at see your point, one of those rides got stuck.

Speaker 8 (02:14:36):
Oh that's the new one, the one that the one
that the track connects that.

Speaker 2 (02:14:39):
Terrible and the people had to the people had to
walk down.

Speaker 1 (02:14:42):
Off of it.

Speaker 12 (02:14:42):
I would rather get stuck on the mouse ride quite
a point o right, no boino at all. I like
roller coasters. I would not want to be in that situation.

Speaker 1 (02:14:49):
You know.

Speaker 2 (02:14:50):
I mean listen the and I noticed that everybody. This
happens to me.

Speaker 1 (02:14:54):
When I'm at heights like that, I kind of freeze,
like everything just kind of freezes.

Speaker 2 (02:14:57):
Do you miss me in the morning?

Speaker 1 (02:14:59):
I do miss your musks. Hold on, hold on for
a second, hang on, I'd like to let the record
state here for those that are unfamiliar with this program
or Mark Dyton, Mark is the producer in the morning.
Uh huh. Mark and I worked in the morning for
how long did we work together in the morning? Was
it six weeks or seven and seven weeks? Felt like
four years? That's right.

Speaker 2 (02:15:18):
So we worked together in the morning.

Speaker 1 (02:15:20):
And then when I moved to the midday show, and
when I just asked the question of do you miss
me in the morning, there was I heard a large cackling.

Speaker 2 (02:15:29):
I heard a very audible laughter. I heard a.

Speaker 1 (02:15:31):
Gasp of disbelief of the like an incredulous nature of
I can't believe he even asked that, And then realize
that the laughter was coming from your wife. Yeah, which
makes me wonder what sort of things are being said
at home and in private conversation about me that I'm
not privy to.

Speaker 12 (02:15:46):
She assumes that we are like office husband and wife. Basically,
she's like, oh, your husband's calling. Like, I guess I'm
the wife in the scenario.

Speaker 2 (02:15:52):
No, you have the thrill of being my sounding board
on things.

Speaker 1 (02:15:56):
That's true.

Speaker 8 (02:15:56):
I've got so much audio on you.

Speaker 1 (02:15:58):
I can bury what is the the most common thing
when I call you on the telephone. What's the first
thing that I typically.

Speaker 8 (02:16:03):
Say two things, and then it goes on for forty minutes.

Speaker 1 (02:16:06):
And usually it's about Typically it's about one of two things, right,
it's either about something we have upcoming or about Eddie. Yep,
pretty much right? Uh huh yeah. Can you believe that? Guy?
I can believe it. Hello Eddie. Listen, listen to what
Eddie did. Eddie, I'd like to know this. When you
have to call and complain about me, who do you call?

Speaker 3 (02:16:24):
I don't call anybody. If I have to complain about you,
I say it straight to your face.

Speaker 8 (02:16:29):
He yells into a pillow.

Speaker 1 (02:16:33):
Really, he goes to HR's. That's Donnie Baker, also known
as Eddie. That's right to my face.

Speaker 8 (02:16:40):
I got a lot of problems with you, and you're
gonna hear about it.

Speaker 1 (02:16:43):
Fair enough, Eddie. I haven't heard any of these complaints
from me for a while. Are you saving them up?

Speaker 4 (02:16:49):
I don't have any complaints of your lately, So that's
why I haven't gone to you.

Speaker 3 (02:16:53):
And approached anything.

Speaker 1 (02:16:55):
Who would?

Speaker 2 (02:16:56):
Who would?

Speaker 1 (02:16:57):
How could you? Now? What? Now? One thing that you, guys,
you mentioned my musk. You got the first wave of
my Colone in the morning. But I was always freshly
clean and bait. Did you not appreciate that you were?
Kevin Bowen not so much. He hasn't bathed very often,
so you were a nice breath of fresh air quite literally,
although you did notice getting strange headaches. Eddie gets strange
headaches apparently from my colone. He claims that my colone

(02:17:19):
is too thick and too heavy.

Speaker 8 (02:17:20):
It's because it's international, that's why.

Speaker 1 (02:17:22):
But my sister's here as well. She'll tell you that
that I've had that odd musk for years. Oh yeah, right,
odd smell scent Coloones. I have an odd colone obsession.

Speaker 12 (02:17:31):
Colone and watches Colones and watches Yeah, see she knows.

Speaker 1 (02:17:35):
See we're related. Can you tell I feel sorry? Mark?

Speaker 2 (02:17:39):
What's the rest of the day look like for you?
And then what's the weekend look like?

Speaker 10 (02:17:41):
Oh?

Speaker 12 (02:17:41):
We are well, hanging out with fair for a little bit.
Got to go get the other two from school, and
I'm hosting Indiana Sports Talk tonight, So hang out with
me at nine thirty on these airwaves. And then yeah,
just kind of taking it easy, going to golf outing
before we have ours at the station on Thursday. So
we'll see how that. Are you a good golfer? No,
not at all, not at all. Are you going to
be at our golf outing or are you going to

(02:18:02):
be back in studio? I will be there after the show.
I've been told it's risquired attendance, so I guess, of
course it's mandatory at ten am. Yep, so I'll be
there probably ten thirty eleven o'clock.

Speaker 2 (02:18:12):
Okay, that's on the seventh right.

Speaker 10 (02:18:14):
Uh huh at the.

Speaker 1 (02:18:14):
Legends Golf Club one oh seven five. The fan dot
com where you can get more information on that. Mark.
I appreciate you stopping by. Enjoy the fair, all right,
no problem.

Speaker 12 (02:18:22):
Hey, I'm gonna go grab a cotton candy beer another
one for you.

Speaker 1 (02:18:26):
Do that, Okay, I've got my water here, I've got water,
I've got obviously, I've already had a key lime milkshake.
I've already had one of the signature grilled cheese sandwiches.
They also have mazzarella sticks. They also have milk. They
also have milkshakes of chocolate vanilla, a wide variety of flavors,
and they have scooped ice cream as well. Here at

(02:18:47):
the Great Indiana State Fair at the American Dairy Association
of Bindiana Dairy Bar and it is still packed. It
is one of the highlights of the State Fair. Going
to be a great weekend here. As we talked about,
we will talk about and recap all of the coming
up on Monday Fever and Action. Tonight they are taking
on Dallas. That game getting underway, Eddie. Your pregame begins
at what time?

Speaker 4 (02:19:05):
Seven point fifteen, Jake, and then they play again on
Sunday seven two teams recap on Monday.

Speaker 1 (02:19:12):
Okay, so we will recap both of those. We'll also
get you caught up on what is an off day
today for the Colts. But that is not to say
that there will not be a lot to discuss. Preseason
will get underway before we know it with the Baltimore
Ravens last night it was the Chargers, of course, and
the Detroit Lions. That's one of those games that you
look at it and immediately you're saying yourself like, oh
my gosh, like what happened to this team?

Speaker 2 (02:19:33):
Or this team looks great? That look it's in a
preseason game.

Speaker 1 (02:19:37):
Number one you're seeing maybe you know, I mean, you
know you saw Trey Lance, right, I mean you're getting
guys that are that are going out and getting a
second chance at things or trying to work their way
into a rotation.

Speaker 2 (02:19:49):
And that's the other thing about last night.

Speaker 1 (02:19:51):
While last night was spectacular from a lot of standpoints
to Tyler Warren catch, the atmosphere was great out at
Grand Park. There were a lot of fun things to
like about the Colts yesterday, But at the same time,
you have to take some of it with a grain
of salt. Was Leatu Latu fabulous last night? Or was
it going up against a struggling line? Did some of
the receivers do a nice job of separation and getting

(02:20:13):
themselves free last night? Or were they taking advantage of
a depleted defensive backfield with Jalen Jones having injury obviously
Juju Brent's having injury. I mean, there's a lot going
on in that regard that there's a chicken and egg
theory that kind of comes into play there that you
have to break down, assess and analyze. But that's what
Cam's all about, and you would rather have it, as
I mentioned off the top of the show, I'd much

(02:20:34):
rather be scrutinizing and analyzing and trying to break down
why Anthony Richardson was playing well as opposed to why
he wasn't at all. You know, so you take what
you can, excuse me, what you can get in that regard.
I just got to hit with a huge bail of
hay or something. Did you get that, camp I got
the hay fever. I've got water right here as a

(02:20:55):
matter of fact, But yeah, that was the tractor went
by kicked up a little. So yeah, I'm gonna take
a swig of water and I'll hand it off to
John in the meantime. So we'll be back with you
at noon on Monday. There goes my water. Thank you, Eddy,
Thank you to Pat Boyd and for joining us earlier today,
obviously Kevin Bownett as well Darnell book darn Up booker Man.

(02:21:17):
All right now, I think I'm officially done with the
coffee fit. My apologies.

Speaker 2 (02:21:21):
Anyway, we'll be back to noon on Monday.

Speaker 1 (02:21:23):
Have a wonderful weekend and certainly enjoy it if you
come out to the Great Indiana State Fair and enjoy
a grilled cheese or a milkshake at the American Dairy Bar.
Not Barren. Thanks for listening. We'll talk to you Noone
on Monday. I'm Corey and Company on ninety three five
and one oh seven five The Fan

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