Monday 10/13/25: Colts and IU win, Don Fischer, Mike Chappell and Mekhi Blackmon join

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
So that's how it sounded over the weekend. Two big
ones Indiana and Don Fisher, the voice of the Hoosiers
that you heard there vaulting their way into the top
three in college football. And dare I say it, I'm
going to allow all of you right now to go
ahead and set the recording device on whatever way you're listening,

(00:23):
whether it be right now on the app, whether you're
listening at ninety three five and one oh seven five FM,
whether you're listening at one oh seven five or one
oh seven five thefan dot com, whatever means in which
you are hearing my voice right now, you might as
well record this so you can play it later, because

(00:45):
you still won't believe it. Through six weeks of the
National Football League season in twenty twenty five, your Indianapolis
Colts are the number one seed in the American Conference
and are tied with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers for the
best record in professional football. Listen again to what I

(01:10):
just said. The Indianapolis Colts, who are leading the AFC South,
are a game clear of everyone in their division. At minimum,
they are a game clear of everybody in the AFC West,
and they can further cement and pull away from that

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if they were too, for example, beat the LA Chargers
coming up next. They are a half game clear of
everybody in the AFC North, and they're a half game
clear of everybody in the AFC East. The Indianapolis Colts
are five and one, and yesterday was one of those
games that you say, you know what, you take the win,

(01:53):
and you move along. And there's plenty to unpack from it,
because yes as the week go we can start to
nitpick or talk about areas that are of concern that
dare I say it need to be cleaned up. But
you did the things that you need to do. And

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that's to me, what is the most remarkable so far
about this franchise and this group is now we have
transitioned from I'm looking at the schedule trying to figure
out the places where they're gonna get to win.

Speaker 2 (02:29):
Too.

Speaker 1 (02:30):
I'm looking at the schedule to try to figure out
places where they're gonna stub their toe.

Speaker 2 (02:35):
And as long as.

Speaker 1 (02:36):
They mind their p's and q's and do what they
need to do, then you look at it and you go, Okay,
the Chargers will be tough in La. Kansas City is
certainly gonna be tough outside of that, does Seattle scare you,
although they're kind of in the same mold, having that

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year where you're like, really, are they good? And this
is an NFL town. The NFL is the eight hundred
pound gorilla, the NFL is the top dog. And we
you know, last night you're watching Sunday Night Football and yeah,
the ALCS is on, but and you're still looking at

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the standings, and you're talking about the Colts, and you're
talking about the bizarre nature of the pregame yesterday, and
you're talking about the resiliency of Daniel Jones to throw
a pick six and then come back with this composure
that the rest of the team seems to rally around.
And you're talking about Jonathan Taylor and the unique ability

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the Colts have not only to utilize him and take
advantage of the fact he's the best back in the
National Football League, but also the schemes, the way that
they're coming up with freeing him up, using the versatility
of their offensive lineman to lead him to pull, to
move in different directions. You're talking about the way that

(03:58):
Tyler Warren is a complete game changer for them, talking
about the fact that there are some question marks maybe
within their linebacking cores, but again, they make plays when
they need to defensively down the stretch. Talking about whether
or not that was a defensive pass interference that helped
them in the end, but not looking a gift horse

(04:19):
in the mouth because there have been other plays over
the course of the season that did go their way
as well or maybe win against them, and all of
those things start to balance themselves out. And there are
so many things that you can look at Yesterday, the
the what is it about Anthony Richardson where the bizarre
seems to find him? And that's at times, and I've

(04:42):
said this before about him, it's not always his fault
with Anthony Richardson. There are times with this poor guy
again goodwill hunting. It's not your fault, son, it's not
your fault. But for whatever reason, the bazar seems to
find him. He is literally a to the odd and

(05:03):
again it's gonna cost him time. I you know, and
I realize he's not your he's not the guy that's
taking snaps for you, regardless. But it's impossible to not
go back in your mind and say to yourself, isn't
this part of why Daniel Jones was selected as the
starter to begin with, because you just kind of knew
this was gonna.

Speaker 2 (05:20):
Be a point.

Speaker 1 (05:20):
Can you imagine if Anthony Richardson's your starter. Can you
imagine if your starting quarterback goes down because of a
freak accident where a stretch band snaps back and hits
him in the eye and fractures his orbital bone. You know,
all of those things, And with all of that compound,
with all of those ingredients put in, like each one

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of them as an individual shot put into this cocktail
that I'm serving to you, it is still not as potent.
Perhaps it is still not as strong a mixed drink,
perhaps as what might be the bigger story. And I
never thought in doing sports talk radio in an NFL city,
I never ever thought.

Speaker 2 (06:05):
And it's not.

Speaker 1 (06:05):
Gonna happen a lot. And I'm not saying it even
is happening right here. Here's the dilemma that we have
at this radio station. Here's the dilemma we have that
I have as a host of this program. Of those
listening to my voice right now that are sports fans

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in Indianapolis, probably eighty percent of you are fans of
the Colts. If you live in Indianapolis and you're a
sports fan, and I say eighty percent because and I know, gasp,
but dare I say it? There are people that have
a team either A you don't grow up in Indianapolis.
You grew up in Milwaukee. Move down here for Lily,

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you're a diehard Packer fan. Yeah, you like the Colts,
They're fine, but the Packers are your team. Or you
grew up a Cowboys fan or a Steelers fan, and
when you were in the eighth the Colts moved here
and you eventually learned, but you can't get rid of
that deep down childhood fandom. So you like the Colts,
but your favorite team is the cout you know, whatever

(07:09):
right you have that, or you know, it could be
that grandpa was a diehard Bears fan and your first
memories were sitting on Grandpa's lap watching the Bears, and
so you've always liked the Bears because of Grandpa.

Speaker 2 (07:23):
I get it.

Speaker 1 (07:24):
But eighty percent of you buy and large are Colts fans.
Eighty five probably might even be higher. On the college
side of things, sixty percent of you are Indiana fans.
Forty percent of your diehard notre Dame fans twenty percent
or diehard Purdue fans not the higher percentage of fan

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listening to me right now is wanting to hear about
the Indianapolis Colts. And that's the challenge because the NFL
is king, and the Colts are the king right Not
only is the NFL king, the Indianapolis Colts right now
are king of the NFL, at least for this season.
I realized the reigning Super Bowl champ would be technically
the king. But Indianapolis is the number one seed in

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the AFC. But the best story in football right now
in the United States of America, the best story in
sports right now in the state of Indiana, the story
that is the one that has the most surreal line going,
the story that is the one that you wouldn't.

Speaker 2 (08:30):
You wouldn't believe it if you went.

Speaker 1 (08:31):
In the time machine and I went back and tried
to tell two year, two year ago version of me
that arguably the best team in college football is the
Indiana Hoosiers.

Speaker 2 (08:48):
And I get it.

Speaker 1 (08:49):
I get that I am speaking to a smaller percentage
of you. I understand it. I'm asking of you that
you hear me out on this. Even if you're not
a fan of Indiana. I totally understand and respect it,
and I appreciate your ear and we'll have plenty of
time to talk about the NFL. But I've thought about
this very long and hard, and I thought about it

(09:10):
very seriously. What is the bigger story right now in Indianapolis.
The more popular story is that of the Colts. They're
both great stories. They're both great, right, They're great. The
more popular story is that of the Colts. Based on
the numbers, again, Delicatessen, Colts are turkey sandwiches. Most of

(09:32):
you coming in are wanting turkey. But at the same time,
when all of a sudden, I realized that I have
the absolute best batch of pastrami ever. That's rare. They're
the mackanof peaches. You can only get them so often.
I've got to be able to tell people, listen, you
got to try this. And right now, Indiana football and

(09:52):
what they did this weekend, what Kurt Signetti has done
and what that program imus doing, is the best story
right now in college football. If I'm doing sports talk
radio right now in Mesa, Arizona, if I'm doing sports
talk radio right now in Galveston, Texas. If I'm doing
sports talk radio right now in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania, I'm talking

(10:19):
about the fact that Indiana may be the most complete
football team in the country. Ohio State's unbelievable, no question,
no question. But in terms of you know what Indiana
did on Saturday. Indiana on Saturday went into Oregon and

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outpaced Oregon. They out fasted Oregon. Oregon, which is a
team that is known for its speed. Oregon. That is
a team that's known for playing in space. Oregon, that's
a team that's known for having a defense that can
be smothering because of their speed. And then obviously athletes
galore Oregon with unlimited budget and Phil Knight Nike money

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and the duck holding up the sign saying that the
Indy five hundred is Walmart f one. All that right,
Oregon is a cachet, a brand. Oregon a team when
you go in that's won twenty plus straight games at home,
the whole deal, hasn't lost a conference game, all of it.

Speaker 2 (11:19):
And Indiana went in there.

Speaker 1 (11:21):
Indiana, which two years ago was snapping and singing their
fight song after beating Akron in four overtimes two years ago.
The biggest basement, dog dwelling, joke program and college football
of all time, not narrative fact, the losingest program in

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the history of Division one college football two years ago,
celebrating a four overtime win against Akron two years ago.
And now Indiana is ranked in the top five. They
are the third ranked team in the country. What do
we believe about rankings? Usually not a lot less Your
teams rank third, and then you're like, hallelujah, let's talk

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about the rankings. But Indiana, they have the best resume
right now in college football because their linebackers make plays,
because their running backs make plays, because their quarterback makes plays,
because their coach is a leader and is vociferous and
is confident, all of it all across the board. And

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that happens on Saturday, and you're thinking to yourself, Okay,
what possibly could even equate to this biggest story heading
into the capitol, you know, to start Monday morning. And
that's the fact that the Colts now have the best
record in the National Football League, at least tied with
it with Tampa Bay. What a weekend, What an incredible weekend,

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And we got plenty to unpack over the course of today.
Don Fisher are going to join us the voice of
the Hoosiers about fifteen minutes from now. Mike Chappel will
join us to talk a little bit of Colts at
one o'clock today, and I believe Sason college basketball polls
come out today. Rob Blackman is going to join us
the voice of the Pernue Boilermakers coming up at the
two o'clock hour. We can do both football and basketball

(13:09):
with Rob, but certainly from a basketball standpoint, there's a
lot to look forward there as well, and the Pacers
and Action tonight taking on the San Antonio Spurs. But
I'm telling you, it was an unbelievable weekend and I
did not think. I did not think that anything over
the course of the seventeen weeks of the National Football

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League season could eat I'm not going to say eclipse,
but equate to a talking point during the course of
the season like the NFL does. But college football right
now with Indiana is right there. I really did think,

(13:51):
I'll admit this now. I thought Indiana would go in
and hang with Oregon. I did, and I was a
little bit curious about whether or not Oregon after the
pen when I saw Oregon against Penn State. I was
so impressed by the way they played down the stretch

(14:12):
of that game and their offensive efficiency against Penn State,
and I thought, Okay, this is going to be a
monumental task for Indiana, not just against Oregon, but going
into Happy Valley as well, two big tests for the Hoosiers.
And then once Penn State completely fell apart. And will
get more into that later, because that does fall back
to Indiana when you're talking about Penn State football and

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where they go from here, and I think you all
know what I'm talking about there, but I wondered if
maybe Oregon, Okay, is Oregon not as stout as we thought.
I still think they're extremely good, but Indiana went in
and out Oregon to Oregon. That's what was so impressive
to me about it. So then you flip the page

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to the next day, you're still in that that that
that gaze about all of it, and you hear the
news before the game even began. For the Colts, it
was bizarre. Before the game even began, it was bizarre.
First off, the play with Mooney Ward and you saw it,

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I say, play in the pregame. He's going out, He's
running a pattern, He's at full speed and Drew Ogletrees
doing the same thing, and it had to be like
slow motion for the two assistants that were involved in
each respective player watching literally it's like you're watching it unfold,

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probably thinking to them, you know, the other one's got
to know. The other one's got to know, and then
boom the collision and now Ward is down. And that
is such an important aspect because you knew going into
the game that Shavert Moody Ward was going to have
one job, one job, follow Marvin Harrison Junior everywhere he goes.

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And while Marvin Harrison Junior we know, partially because his
name is Marvin Harrison Junior, partially because of the pedigree
Ohio State, and partially because of the film, we know
what a talent he is. But he hasn't really gotten
off and running at the professional level. But he's starting
to show it. Had a primetime game recently where looked

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like he was very like some assembly required out of
the box, and then it started to come together, and
so you knew what a player that was, and you
knew what Jacobe Brissett. Whenever you get a backup quarterback
that's coming in and Brissett is a competent player, no question,
we know that in Indianapolis. But he's gonna have to

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go safety net, he's gonna have to go layups, he's
gonna have to go with the cushion of a player
to get him in rep and you knew that was
going to be Marvin Harrison Junior.

Speaker 2 (17:03):
So before the.

Speaker 1 (17:03):
Game even begins, the guy whose job is going to
be stick with him like he's gum and let me
know if he's dent teen boom out. And then Marvin
Harrison Junior speaking of the bizarre out. So there were
all these weird things going on. The Anthony Richardson injury

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the last time that I heard of an injury like that,
And I don't know if it was the exact same injury,
but I do recall Reggie Miller, if we're going on
local reference standpoint, Reggie Miller having the season. I believe
it was ninety six where he had an eye socket
fracture or break that led him to miss time and

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then wear the goggles and everything else. And it was
a lengthy process. And you hope the best for Anthony Richardson,
Don't get me wrong, but it just seems be it
fair or that the bizarre is attached anywhere he goes, right,
But the thing that I thought was key in the
game yesterday and the thing that again validated we're past

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the point now of trying to validate the Daniel Jones
selection as the starting quarterback. The guy is having potentially
a pro you know, an MVP season at this point.
But what Daniel Jones did yesterday to me that was
the most impressive was Arizona is a little bit different.

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I'm not, by any stretch of the imagination and NFL
offensive coordinator. I'm not a defensive coordinator. I don't pretend
to be either one or know the nuances of what
goes into the schemes, the looks, all of that in
the National Football League level. But I do know that Arizona,
you know, there are certain defenses that you go in

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and they present a certain look to you and you
know right away what they're doing. You can go back
and watch video of whether it be Manning or luck
Philip Rivers quarterbacks in this town that have been able
to go up to the line of scrimmage, look across,
see exactly what's happening and say, Okay, Mike linebacker's here.

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Here's exactly what they're doing. And oftentimes if a play
is called that they know may not be it's not
that they're looking for the best play. They're looking to
audible out simply to get out of a bad play.
So they're coming up to the line and they're saying, Okay,
they've called for me a bubble screen here, but the

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way they're lined up defensively, that playing is gonna work.
So I'm just going to audible to a handoff to
get out of that play and then we'll move along
and regroup. And there is a skill that comes with that.
And Daniel Jones yesterday I thought was really really good,
consider he was seeing as tricky a junk defense as

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he will see all year in terms of a defense
that gives him looks at the line that are totally
different than the look that they are actually going to
execute once the ball is snapped, and more often than
not through his progressions. And I know he threw a
pick right, a costly pick, but his ability to bounce

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back from that, his ability to quickly process, compute, analyze,
and then go out of a bad play to eventually
get back into a good play, I thought was a
huge key. And it goes back to again and we'll
hear later from Shane Steichen talking about it. Just this

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symbiotic nature between coach and quarterback, and that relationship right
now is growing and rippling throughout the entire franchise and
there are even messages with that that go across the
rest of the NFL. You know, I saw that Tua
in Miami. Tua in Miami called out his teammates, said

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enough is enough and called out his teammates. And the
thing that he called him out for was he said
that it comes down to preparedness and attention to detail
and being on time for meetings, organizational things, Because what
if we heard about about the quarterback position, it's organizational.
It's more than just coming up and being able to

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throw the football. It's about being able to process all
of that. And we didn't know that Daniel Jones was
that guy. I don't know that we had a chance
in New York to see that Daniel Jones is that guy.
But whether it be just the brief time he was
in Minnesota, whether it be being able to then sit
back and analyze and really look over everything that took
place for him, in New York, whatever it may be.

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Everything now the marriage between Daniel Jones and Shane Steiken
is working, and it's working for the entire roster because
I think they are following in line of the example
being set of organizational and there's a ton to get
to and a ton to celebrate, and really it is
when I talk about symbiotic, it's a symbiotic nature in

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this town right now of two football teams, two football teams,
both of which not only and I'm not going to
say that Indiana's exceeding expectation.

Speaker 2 (22:24):
We knew they were going to be really good.

Speaker 1 (22:26):
But you look at Indiana and you look at the Colts,
and now you're looking at it going, you know what,
good teams find ways to win games. That Iowa game
was huge for Indiana because good teams dig down, they
find a way, and then they put it behind them
and they move along and they get better. And the
Colts I think, have done the same thing as well.
And you start to look at the schedule and the

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sugar flum pair the sugar plum faerries start dancing in
your head because there's a lot to be excited about.
And Don Fisher deserves to be as excited about it
as anybody, because he sat through a lot of bad
football and he's getting real warded with as you heard
the excitement in his voice, the story of college football.
And he's going to join us on the other side

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and we'll take a look back on what was a
spectacular day in Eugene, and we'll do it next. You're
listening to Quarian Company here on a victorious Monday.

Speaker 2 (23:15):
On the fan. The Indiana Hoosiers.

Speaker 1 (23:21):
They go out to Audstin Stadium in Eugene, Oregon. And
I thought out Oregon to Oregon because look, I think
the world of Oregon and the way that they that
football program and the fact that they seem to always
have speeded every position in Indiana was faster, Indiana was
better thirty to twenty.

Speaker 2 (23:41):
They win.

Speaker 1 (23:42):
Don Fisher joining us now on the Java House Peel
and poor guest line and Don todd Byer, our executive producer,
just came in and said, you know, and Todd's a
prdue guy, by the way, and he said, you know,
I'm just happy for Don Fisher and we've talked about
that before, but Don, this is unbelievably cool, and I
know that we went through this last year, but man,

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it feels like it's even another rung hire, doesn't it.

Speaker 3 (24:06):
It does right now, there's no doubt about that. Obviously,
Indiana winning over Oregon at Oregon against a team.

Speaker 4 (24:13):
That everybody picked to win.

Speaker 3 (24:15):
That ballgame, and now Indiana's moved up into the spot
that they were essentially in the third position in the rankings.
It's like it's kind of a fairy tale, if you
know what I mean, especially for those of us who
have been around Indiana football for as long as I have.
But at the same time, it's not a fairy tale.

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We know that it's reality, and it's probably the most
fun I've ever had calling football games.

Speaker 1 (24:42):
Don I think the thing and I want you to
tell me if you agree with this or if what
I'm about to say even makes sense. But to me,
the thing that is the most astounding of this is
it is a complete mindset shift in culture change. And
by that I mean, you know, I'm watching that game
with Oregon and I'm sitting there visualizing and seeing the

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lane open up, where I think, to myself, this is
going to be a typical Kurt Signetti Indiana game where
they just wait for the other team to make mistakes,
they keep their foot on the pedal, they pull away,
and in the last couple of minutes, you know what's
going to happen. And that is such the antithesis of
the mindset that we had for so long. It is
remarkable to me that we in two years have almost

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forgotten about what it was like to be an Indiana
fan for the previous one hundred Does that make sense?

Speaker 3 (25:34):
It does, except I'll never forget, well, yeah, what it
was like before.

Speaker 4 (25:41):
But I will tell you this, there's no question that it's.

Speaker 2 (25:45):
It's a complete mind change, it really is.

Speaker 3 (25:48):
And as quickly as it has come, that's the most
remarkable thing because I don't know that anybody has ever
turned a program around faster than what Kurt Signetti has
and then turned that mindset of the fan base around
along with it. Because I don't care who you are,
if you've been an Indiana football fan forever, you've been

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sorry about that big Mac truck to miscisco on by
at any rate, if you've been a football fan at
Indiana for any length of time, you know what the
struggles have been and how do you get out of that?
And you know the Bill Bowery era was a great
era of Indiana football, and nobody wanted to talk about

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that back in the day because they started out and
eleven in Bill's first year, and then it was four
and seven the second year. But after that, all of
a sudden, for about the next eight years, Indiana football
was something special under coach Bowery. But this has been
beyond that because of the success and how quickly it

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has come, and so there's no way to forget the
past and know what we were at that time. But
at the same time, you better celebrate this while it's happening,
because we don't know how long that's going to take place.
But we do know that if Kurt Signetti is here
that long, it's gonna say this way because he is

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something special.

Speaker 2 (27:15):
Don you know.

Speaker 1 (27:16):
You go back to Bill Mallory, who was a great
football coach, and while I did not know him by
all account, from what I've heard, a great man, right.
I mean, those that played for him speak the world
of Bill Mallory and and those teams were tough and disciplined.
Signetti's teams are those things. But you know, it's a
different era of football now, and they there's a speed there.

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I mean, they just they are literally they swarm you.
So my question would be this, and maybe we don't
know this because it's only two years in, but do
you believe that Kurt Signetti has gone out and gotten
players that have basically been able to play the system
that he had in mind? Or is this the kind
of coach that because of coming in here, getting the

(27:59):
transfers and then with the portal, he is schematically coming
up with things that benefit what it is that he sees.
Does that make sense what I'm asking?

Speaker 5 (28:07):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (28:08):
I think so.

Speaker 3 (28:08):
I mean, you know, Jake, the thing about Signetti is this,
and I don't think I think he gets different players
and he but here's the first thing. The first thing
about Sibbetti is when he looks at film, he dissects
a player. He dissects what he thinks is really good,
what he doesn't think is quite as good. Can I

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coach this kid? Is he coachable? He looks at the
character or the kid first, and then he figures out
if if this guy progresses like we think he can,
does he fit what we need? So he goes through
a whole process of how.

Speaker 2 (28:47):
He looks at.

Speaker 3 (28:47):
Players, whether they're in high school kids or they're transfer
portal players. And when he looks at the transfer portal,
he looks at experience first, other than the character aspect.
That character is one of the biggest things he looks
at first. But again he looks at playing experience. How
much does this guy played? Is he coachable? Can he change?

(29:09):
Can he do things that we ask him to do.
He goes through a whole process of things. I can't
even relate all the things that he asks himself about
what he sees on film of a kid and then
in talking to that young man to see if he
can get him to come to Indiana. So he's just
unique in that way. I don't think he looks at

(29:30):
the ranking of a player. Got we got more three
star guys in this football team that we have anything
else other than a few transfer portal guys that came in.
But he's looking at whether he thinks the kid can
develop and be the kind of player that he likes,
the kind of player that's disciplined, understands his role, and

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then takes care of business on the field. So I
just think he's unique. I'm not saying that if there
are any other coaches that do exactly the same thing
because there I just and we've been around them other
than a Bill Lowery type who was all about toughness
and physicality when he came here, and when you watched
Indiana play under Bill Bwery in his first year in Indiana,

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you could tell that this team was going to be
better than what we'd had in the past just by
the way they went out and performed on the field.
And it wasn't because they were great teams. They were
zero to eleven in that first season, and then they
got better and better in the next two years. Kurt
Signetti has done this in one season. He's done the
very first season he's been here, made up a successful team,

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got to the College Football Playoff. That's why this is
so unique and it's so much fun to be a
part of because we've never seen anything like it before.

Speaker 1 (30:44):
Don speaking of never seen anything like it now, I'm
not saying what I'm about to say, I've never seen,
but it's been a while in terms of great catches. Okay,
there was a play in that game in Oregon that
I thought exemplified the Signetti era, and I'm talking talking
about Omar Cooper Junior goes up and makes a one

(31:04):
handed grab. I can't remember if it was a second
down or a third down. I think it was on
the first half of the game. But he makes this
remarkable one head to catch. Right, he comes down and
then has the presence of mind to then put a
spin move basically break a tackle and dive forward to
get the first down. So he had the style was there,

(31:26):
but it was the presence of mind and the discipline
to then have the substance to finish the play and
go one step further. Now, some of that Omar Cooper,
the kid out of Lawrence North. You know, he gets
a lot, He gets all the credit there, don't get
me wrong. But part of that to me just feels
like it exemplified attention to detail. And I don't know

(31:49):
that I've seen a sports team that we've covered in
this market have attention to detail like this Indiana football team.

Speaker 2 (31:57):
Now, I'm going to give you.

Speaker 1 (31:58):
Don Fisher the mission here to tell me that I
am full of hyperbole there.

Speaker 3 (32:05):
Well, there's no question there is a tremendous amount of
attention to detail on this football team. For every position,
for every player, they all are responsible for those things. Again,
it is something that Signetti and his coaching staff teaches.
They teach you the things you have to do on

(32:26):
the football field to be successful. And if you look
at here's the other thing, Jake, fundamentals. If you don't
coach fundamentals, then you have no chance to be a
great football program or a great basketball program or anything
else in sports. You have to teach the fundamentals first,

(32:50):
and they have to be a constant from a practice perspective.
And if you do that, all of a sudden things
start to fall in place for players. Players realize that
that's the key. As you pay attention to fundamentals and
you work on those kinds of things, that's when you
become a great football player and a great football team.

(33:11):
And I think that is again something that this coach
and this coaching staff puts forth on a daily basis
in their practice sessions and all those kinds of things
and the other thing that they do. And I think
this is critical this day and age because there are
so many coaches at the football on football and basketball,

(33:32):
they just practice NonStop. They'll go two and a half,
three and a half hours, those kinds of things. This
coach doesn't do that. They practice an hour and fifty minutes.
Generally speaking, that's about it. And every moment of those
practices are something's going on, something's being instructive, something's being

(33:53):
talked about, and they work on that repetitively all the time.
It's just it's a process. To some it could be
a tedious process. But to these players, I think they've
all bought into the idea if we continue to do
this the way our coach is asking us to do it.
And I heard Aidan Fisher basically in an interview the

(34:16):
other day simply say the very same thing I'm talking
about here. You continue to do it day after day.

Speaker 2 (34:23):
Week after week.

Speaker 3 (34:24):
You mount one practice and one fundamental on top of
the other, and you just continue to work at it,
and you just try to get better each and every
time that you're in a practice session. I just think
that philosophy is the only way to go if you're
going to be successful. And maybe other schools do it,
I've never seen anybody do it faster than what Signetti

(34:45):
has done it with this program and with this team,
and maybe the transfer portal and the older guys that
they get out of the portal and guys that they're
more experienced they buy into it too, So it doesn't
matter who coached you before. You have to buy into
what they're selling now. And these kids all do it
and it's amazing.

Speaker 1 (35:03):
Okay, Don, before we let you go, Don Fisher is
our guest. He's on the Java House Peel and Poor
Guest line. He's the voice of the third ranked Indiana
who's your's highest ranking in school history. Don, obviously, and
it goes without saying, you know you mentioned it. How
long is Signetti going to be here? Well, I'm going
to get into that in a minute here, but I
wanted to ask your take on this. We don't know, obviously,
and it would be unfair for me to pretend that

(35:25):
you have some sort of immediate line into the thought
process of Kurt Signetti in his future. But because his
home state school, a major power in Penn State, is
now looking for a coach, his name is going to
be linked to that. What sort of things has he
said to you, insinuated to you in interviews or otherwise
just in terms of his I guess comfort level at

(35:47):
Indiana and whether or not you think he is a
guy that has an eye elsewhere.

Speaker 2 (35:53):
The only thing.

Speaker 3 (35:53):
I could tell you in that regard Jake, and I
have no knowledge of what his plans are in the future,
other than to say that last year, when somebody asked
him something about all the success you had this first
year in Indiana, would you be looking elsewhere? He said,
why would I be? Why would I want to leave
an emerging superpower? So all I can tell you, Jake,

(36:19):
I'm not even gonna worry about that. I'm going to
enjoy what I see right now, have fun with it,
relation in it, and hopefully couraging that he stays here forever.
But if it doesn't happen that way, I'm still going
to thank a man who has absolutely changed Indiana football.

Speaker 2 (36:37):
It's no question. I mean, it's unbelievable.

Speaker 1 (36:39):
And it continues with Michigan State next on the schedule.
That game Saturday three point thirty start in Bloomington and
what will be an awesome, awesome atmosphere and Don Fisher
will have the call. Of course, Don, it was an
awesome day on Saturday third ranked. Certainly enjoy it and
we look forward to listening with the Michigan State game
coming up in five days from now.

Speaker 2 (37:01):
Appreciate it as always.

Speaker 3 (37:04):
Thanks Jake, Appreciate you're having me as always.

Speaker 1 (37:06):
All Right, Don Fisher, the voice of the Indiana Hoosiers,
we come back, there is in fact that speculation about Indiana,
and yes, we will get much more into the Colts.

Speaker 2 (37:15):
Mike Chapel going to join us in fifteen.

Speaker 1 (37:16):
But for Indiana and worrying about that situation from the
football standpoint. If Indiana needs to find some peace of
mind in regards to their coach, need they only look
in the mirror? I will explain what I mean next.
Mike Chapel joining us about eight minutes from now. Let

(37:40):
me tell you a story that you're gonna hear a
lot about, at least for the You know, I don't
know what the timeline is going to be, and certainly
I am other than Tyler Warren. I'm not naive into
thinking that people in Indianapolis give too much a hoot
about Penn State football, but it does start to become

(38:02):
topical for the fact of what we were just talking about.

Speaker 2 (38:08):
I get it.

Speaker 1 (38:09):
You're a purdu fan, Notre Dame fan, Butler fan, Indiana
State fan, Ball State fan, whatever it might be.

Speaker 2 (38:14):
I get it.

Speaker 1 (38:16):
You're not tuning in to me today to hear about
Indiana football. But it is a massive story and it's incredible.
What Kurt Signetti has done is incredible and there is
a reason why when he was hired. I remember just

(38:38):
before he came to Indiana, James Madison was ranked, you know,
they were surging up the rankings.

Speaker 4 (38:46):
And.

Speaker 1 (38:49):
He was being interviewed and he had that bravada right
that just like, unapologetic, this is who we are, you
take it or leave it, and we're a darn good
football team and etc. And it was just like, whoa
this dude is? I mean, this is a confident dude.
And then he comes in of course with Indiana, I
just win Google me, and I mean he's never backed

(39:10):
down from any of it, and that bravada is exactly
what probably is needed and longed for at the Marquee
School of his home state and Penn State, Penn State.
I mean it was literally what two weeks ago, three
weeks ago when I'm watching Penn State and Oregon and

(39:31):
Penn State's leading that game, and what have I said
on this show a billion times about Penn State every
year with Penn State for the last like twenty years
ranked in the top five preseason start out six to zero,
big time matchup against typically it's Ohio State lead seventeen
to six in the fourth quarter. You get excited for
Penn State and then get out scored twenty one to

(39:53):
nothing in the fourth quarter and lose twenty seven to seventeen.
And then the next week turn around and lose to
Minnesota Rents and repeat. It's been that way for twenty
years now. And yeah, I get it, Happy Valley and
one hundred and five thousand people and whiteouts and all that.
I get all of it. And Penn State the program

(40:13):
itself one of the richest and most tradition rich programs
in college football. Joe Pah and you know Shane Conlin
and interceptions and knocking off Miami and Kurt Warner with
the c out of k and you know all of it,
on and on and on right, great players, great history,

(40:38):
and now Penn State. Because of the fact that Penn
State and its fan base and its alumni, they had
this expectation that in fact, it is still the same
Penn State, and in branding and in legacy it is,
but in wins and losses into today's player, it is not.
And I know that Indiana fans are worried that Kurt

(40:59):
Signetti because he's going to be a target. He has
coached at three different schools in the state of Pennsylvania.
He grew up in the state of Pennsylvania. Now he
played at West Virginia, but he has coached at Indiana, Pennsylvania.
He's coached at Temple, He's coached at Pitt. Right, he

(41:22):
has coached and been around, you know, schools in the
state of Pennsylvania. And so if you are a penn
State fan, you're looking at it and you're going, this
is our Brad Stevens. One would assume I have no idea,
but one would assume because he grew up in the
state of Pennsylvania, even though Pennsylvania is a huge state,

(41:44):
and maybe he grew up a Pitt or a West
Virginia fan versus being a penn State fan.

Speaker 2 (41:48):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (41:49):
But you don't coach in the state of Pennsylvania at
that many different schools without understanding the heritage, the legacy,
the empowerment of penn State football. It's just like Indiana.
So for Indiana fans that are looking and saying, oh gosh,
I'm worried it's going to be a slam dunk that
Kurt Signetti goes to Penn State, it's like Brad Stevens.

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Brad Stevens grew up in Indiana. Now Stevens, we know
grew up an Indiana basketball fan. We don't know that
Signetti grew up a Penn State football fan. But Stevens
grew up in the height of Indiana basketball under the
Bob Knight culture, went to a smaller school in the
state of Indiana. In Signette's case, he went to West Virginia,
which is right there bordering on Pennsylvania. Obviously, but then

(42:36):
Stevens coached different school in the state of Indiana than
Indiana itself. Was aware of Indiana all the time. Goes
and takes a job. Now, admittedly coaching and then being
the president of the Boston Celtics is a hill of
being difference than being the coach at a upstart Indiana program,
but nonetheless takes another job and then gets to a

(42:58):
situation where you look at it. And in the case
of Brad Stevens and Indiana, trust me, they've tried everything
to lure him back, and every time Stevens looked at
it and just simply there was always something that was
the roadblock to him getting that gig, and part of
that roadblock is, to be honest with you, the culture
and expectation of Indiana basketball that is almost impossible to

(43:20):
meet for anybody. There's a reason why if you look
at Indiana basketball, there's a reason why. Who was the
last India I ask you this, since Bob Knight left Indiana,
who was the last coach that Indiana hired that was
their first choice or even their second? And for Penn
State football, I think Kurt Signetti looks at it the

(43:42):
exact same way. And listen, I have all the respect
in the world for the football wins and lost his
tradition of Penn State. Obviously, there is the dark cloud
of whether or not and we'll never know what Joe
Paterno did or didn't know of the scandal that went
on at Penn State and horrible things that took place
within Penn State football, and whether or not that university

(44:05):
and department and everything else we're aware of it. That's
a whole different topic. But in terms of twenty twenty
five football and Penn State University and everything that goes
into it, all you need to do is look at
James Franklin, you go, Okay, so you look and I
know it was twelve years in the making, but the
guy's been a good coach. He's had a terrible record
against top ten teams. I get that. But if you're

(44:26):
Kurt Signetti, why would you leave Indiana? Yeah, Penn State
might pay you fifteen million. Indiana can pony up and
give you that money. I can promise you that, and
Indiana would be willing to do so. I can promise
you that. And right now with what he has going
at Indiana, he's ranked in the top five right now
at Indiana, why take on the additional pressure, the additional expectation,

(44:49):
the additional immediate hot seat at Penn State When you've
got it here at Indiana you got it pretty good,
and he's got it rolling. And I think when it
comes down to it, Signetti can look at home and
home is home, realize that. But he's gonna assess and
analyze all of it and say, you know what, why
not Indiana get me the T shirt? Why not Indiana?
I'm gonna stay here. And I think that's what he's

(45:10):
going to do because I think he looks at it
and his total accomplishment in his mind is not going
to be going and winning a national title at a
place where that is the expectation, but rather chasing one
at a place where that was thought to be impossible,
and that would be the ultimate ultimate feat. Mike Chappell
talking Colts next. Back here on a Monday, and somebody

(45:33):
actually said it best I thought in terms of the
theme for today, this text that was sent to me,
and it's totally true, says Jake. The theme of the
day should be but they are. I U should not
be good and ranked third in college football, but they are.
The Colts should not be the number one seed in
the AFC, but they are.

Speaker 3 (45:52):
Now.

Speaker 1 (45:53):
I'll tell you who does not fall into that category,
because they absolutely should be and were expected to be.
But do we happen to have CORP the breaking news sounder.
If you could please, Rob Blackman will join us coming
up a little over an hour from now. He is
the voice of the preseason number one team in the land.
The Purdue boiler Makers are your college basketball preseason number one.

(46:14):
As for number one in the AFC, I mentioned it,
it is the Indianapolis Colts at five and one. After
yesterday's went over the Arizona Cardinals, joining us now as
he does each and every Monday from CBS four and
WXA and Fox fifty nine. And by the way, kudos
in particular to Fox fifty nine and Russ McQuaid yesterday.
I believe they might have been the only media outlet

(46:35):
that had the wherewithal to be in position to interview
Mark Sanchez yesterday. And they have been on top of
that story from day one, and that television station has
been all over that. Mike Chapple, the dean of writers
for the Colts, joining us now on the Java House,
Peel and Poor guest Line and Chap Colts the number
one seed overall. Yesterday was a game that I thought

(46:58):
the Colts did, Mike, what you expect good teams to do,
and that is you just find a way to win.
You know, Jacoby Brissett was efficient for Arizona, but in
the end, the Colts did what they needed to do
to win. My question for you would be this, are
we going to eventually have to address or discuss any

(47:19):
vulnerabilities defensively for Indianapolis?

Speaker 4 (47:23):
Oh, and we have. Their pass rush hasn't been good enough.
They're not getting enough from law to and and Quitty
pay quid. He had two sacks festerday. But the linebackers
are are are good at tackling their liabilities in in coverage,
which which Zaire Franklin he's really really effective. He was

(47:48):
all proh W. He's allowed to do what he does
and when you've got to do more things, not so
much the secondary. It's it's I understand people bitch at
the moment, and I do. We're up in the press
box just making comments, but they're playing people who wouldn't
be playing that. These guys are like and they're they're

(48:11):
playing their butts off and all this, but but they're
like your sixth or seventh corners. They just are you know,
I mentioned all these guy or I wrote in the
story today of all the people that are out with
Kenny Moore and Jalan Jones and Justin Wadeley. I forgot
Mike Hilton. Hilton, you know he's out, so you know,

(48:31):
and and I don't want to be a battle of apologist.
I don't, But there is no way that any GM
can provide this the level of depth that covers up
these injuries. Can't do it. And then and then you
lose Mooney Ward for Kranat laud. It's when I saw
the video of he and Drew Ogletree colliding. I flash

(48:55):
back to that. It's like a comedy thing where you
got two ships in the ocean, in this big ocean
and they ran into each other. That just told you
how it was going to be difficult because Mooney war
was going to be on Marv Junior, who ended up
getting hurt. But when you lose arguably your top defensive
player in pregame warm ups, now imagine the scrambling that

(49:20):
goes on. So we've talked about it, and part of
its injury related the linebacker, in my mind is because
as I said, there were like eight things on the
list to do in the off season, and linebackwards one
of them, and that's the one that they can get to. Well,
I'm glad they got to the other seven and this
is the one they did can get to. But the

(49:43):
pass rush bothers me because it's just not it's not consistent.
Brissett just had too much time. Too many times he
escaped a couple of times. Quarterbacks do that, but that
should have been a quarterback that you really smoked, and
they didn't. And they're just not getting enough from the
edge Samson that become I'm not getting on him. He's

(50:03):
coming back from an Achilles, for crying out loud. But
you need you need more from your two first round
draft picks, and yeah, pressures and this, that and the other.
I give me some sacks. These guys get paid for sacks.
They do. They need more from it, and it's I
think a lot too is a great athlete, and he
may end up being a really really exceptional player after

(50:26):
six weeks. I don't want him having more interceptions in sacks.
I just don't think that's a good thing.

Speaker 1 (50:32):
Chap When you look at Mike Chapel is our guest,
he's on the Joba house peeling poor guest line. When
you look at the lineback, like if you look defensively
yesterday in general, they were let in tackles by Jermaine Pratt,
who had a you know, was an efficient day for him,
but he also was a guy that was just acquired.
Is that more so saying hey, what a great signing,
or is that more so saying that's problematic and it

(50:55):
shows weakness elsewhere.

Speaker 4 (50:58):
The ladder the ladder, because remember and keep in mind,
and this isn't throw shade on Jermaine Pratty. He had
eleven tackles for crying out that with like three practices
they had a chance to sign him when the Bengals
cut him whenever, it was six weeks ago or whatever.
And the money I think was probably a little too steep.

(51:19):
It was like four million dollars guaranteed whatever. And they
and as as Chris and Shane liked to do that,
they really wanted to see more from their own guys.
They did. They really, they really believe on they're in
their own guys. Uh but in this case it hasn't
worked out, and they're just susceptible to the coverage. They

(51:39):
just they just are. And uh So there again, what
you're playing guys in positions or number of reps who
normally shouldn't be doing that. And again that's how it
was in the secondary with Jonathan Edwards, an unreppied rookie,
and Chrys Labans who spent a lot of time on
the practice squad, and and Michael or Mackaya Blackman who

(52:03):
was acquired in a trade early. So it's when you
had that it makes it tough and then it makes
things worse on the secondary when you're not pressured to quarterback,
so it was just, yes, they found a way. That's
that's the best way to do any I know people
are saying, with God, look who they've beaten. Well you
be who you play. Yeah, they should have beaten the

(52:26):
Rams and they should have lost at Denver, so things
even out. But that's why I was watching some of
the national shows today and they still Pitty Brewski doesn't
believe in these guys at all. Maybe that's a little
bit of the New England ring. I don't think this
is a super Bowl contender as it as it is,
but once you get in, who knows. But I think

(52:46):
it's I think it's a team that could do something
in the playoffs, whatever something is, you know. But right
now they're first in the FC South, which is which
is step one. It is step one to getting a
home game and getting in and then we'll see. And
the way the rest of the AFC has sort of
just sort of floundered outside of Buffalo and Kansasity is

(53:08):
apparently getting itself back together. In the Chargers, you just
don't know what's there. Miami's is a dumpster fire New
England maybe, but it's right there for them to be
in the thicket of it all the way. The schedule
gets tougher later on. But that's why we've all talked
about this first part of the season. Going into the

(53:29):
game in bertole In with Atlanta. Holy smokes, you've got
a chance to set yourself up for something whatever that's
something is, and that's what they're doing.

Speaker 1 (53:39):
Chap this is and maybe you know, I was gonna say,
maybe it's not time for this conversation, but I don't
know that there's ever you know, a good time, bad
time when it comes talking colts, right, I mean, the
reality is this, we should celebrate what this team is
doing there five and one. Daniel Jones has just been exceptional.
I thought yesterday he showed a lot by you know,
when there are a lot of quarterbacks that if they

(54:01):
throw a pick or a pick six, they will you know,
he continues to respond, But I'm curious, and I know
that it's it's not his fault at times, it's just
not But is the Anthony Richardson contractual question starting to
answer itself just based on the fact that, as I

(54:22):
mentioned earlier, he seems to be a magnet to the
bizarre and to the unfortunate.

Speaker 4 (54:29):
And that's sad.

Speaker 2 (54:30):
It is.

Speaker 1 (54:31):
But I mean, but at the same time, don't you again,
it's not his fault at all. Right, I mean, it's
a totally bizarre fluke thing. But if I said to you,
if I stopped, if I literally walked into Lucas Oil
Stadium yesterday an hour before the game, before any news
had come out, and said, folks, I'm taking a survey.
A player just had an orbital bone fracture because a

(54:54):
rubber band during stretching snapped and came back and hit
him right in the eye.

Speaker 2 (54:58):
Who is at who? Out of one hundre? People would say,
what's got to be Anthoney Richardson?

Speaker 4 (55:02):
Right, I know, I know, and that's too bad. But
but aside from that, take take take that out of
the mix. I I I was I was wrong. I'll say,
I'll say I was wrong. I would have gone with
Richardson coming out of training camp. I really would have,
because I my my, my pea brain thought, they've got
to figure out what they have at the end of

(55:23):
the season. They've got to know what they have in Richardson. Well,
in my mind, as it turns out, they knew what
they had, whether it was at the end of last season,
whether it was some March day when Shane Steichen was
having a brew in the back porch, they decided. He
decided that Jones, for so many reasons, was the right guy.

(55:47):
This is before practices and all that stuff, and that
Richardson wasn't. So you know, I I I think if
this thing continues the way it is and and there
knocking on the playoff door or the division title, whatever, boy,
I think they find a way to go forward with
rich with Jones, and they find a way to move Richardson.

(56:10):
I just I just don't see any pass forward for
Richardson here unless Jones gets hurt in the next couple
of weeks and and and Richardson's you know, eye injuries.

Speaker 2 (56:19):
Okay, well he's unavailable. I mean, Chap, do you remember,
as I say, yeah, I mean, do you remember when
Reggie Miller and I'm going back.

Speaker 1 (56:27):
Thirty years ago, I realized, yes, yes, but Reggie Miller
had a similar injury. Now one was listed as a
break and one as a fracture. I you know, I mean,
I'll get Ralph Reefon at some point this week to
kind of verify or go through that.

Speaker 2 (56:40):
But but you know, that injury kept Reggie Miller out
for a while. I mean, this is in and you
feel bad for.

Speaker 4 (56:45):
Him, right, I think this keeps Richardson out for two
or three weeks minimum, correct, because you know, keep in mind,
and when you're playing, when you're practicing, you're you're jarring
the body and your eyes and all this. And that's
just got it that that can't be even remotely good
for a healing orbit wone fracture. It can be so
I and I just posted some today. I think they're

(57:07):
going to look for a veteran. And it's not shade
on Riley Leonard at all, but he was a sixth
round pick, a developmental guy. Has done everything right so far.
But are you going to put a five and one
team that can do some things in the hands of
a six round draft pick? Now, you're going to try

(57:29):
to find somebody who, as a veteran, has played, knows
what's going on, has no clue what your offensive. That's
the downside. Took him in stone cold, that worked on
I mean Joe Flacco did that. Maybe if this happened
last week, you make a trade with Cleveland and bring
Joe back here. I don't know, but I looked at
the list of available quarterbacks and it's not even oh

(57:53):
really that guy. No, there's none of those guys. So
but I do think they'll do that, and just to
be safe, because I didn't notice that Jones is only
there's only been one season he's not missed a game
with an injury, and that was in twenty twenty two,
so you know, he he he tends to get hurt,
like quarterbacks do, and they've got to have somebody who

(58:15):
can step in and at least run things competently, if
that's the right word. I don't know if if they
can even do that on short notice, but I do
think they'll have tryouts tomorrow. And I think while I
was signing on Wednesday or two day, I just do.

Speaker 1 (58:31):
You know, Chap, here's what's interesting to me about the
quarterback position. Mike Chapel is our guest. I'm going to
go back to one of my really bad analogies here. Okay,
chap I have never trumble trouble this being I have
a ton of my real Yeah, okay, I have my
entire life. Academically speaking, I couldn't I couldn't get algebra.

(58:55):
I just couldn't grasp algebra. That's true of most of
us that are in the broadcast feshion, by the way,
but that's exactly right. But in order to grasp algebra,
you first have to understand the basics of math, long division, multiplication,
and then they all interweave to become algebraic formula. If

(59:16):
you don't know the basic steps of math, then you're
never going to get algebra.

Speaker 2 (59:21):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (59:22):
It seems to me like in the in the offensive scheme,
the Colts right now are doing offensively things that we
have not seen in this town with this franchise, some
of it forever. But they are leading the league in scoring,
They are efficient, they are working it in so many
different ways, and Anthony Richardson was capable occasionally of the

(59:44):
big algebraic type fancy play of like how in the
world did that just happen, But for the most part
it was the basic fundamental that was eluding him. And
it feels to me like the reason the Colts offensively
are where they are is because Daniel Jones mastered long
division and multiplication, and that then allows Shane Stikeen to

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occasionally pop in the algebraic formula to keep people guessing
but you had to start with the basics. And I
think we all were looking at which quarterback was going
to be the big play guy, and Stikeen went with
the guy that actually was the basic guy because that's
the foundation he wanted to build off of. Does that

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make any sense?

Speaker 4 (01:00:30):
And yes, and still giving you some big place.

Speaker 2 (01:00:33):
That's what I mean. They can mix that in now
right right.

Speaker 4 (01:00:37):
It's kind of like when you're in school and in
your head you can figure out what the answer was,
so you put down thirty one. Well, they want to
know why you get to thirty one, And sometimes I
couldn't do it. In my head, I can tell you
how I got to it, right, So yeah, I think
I think you're right. And that's why I say when
I didn't agree with what Shane Styken did it and

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when and when he kept blaming it and he told us,
he flat told us idiots, well it it's the free stamp,
it's operations, it's finding completions and all that stuff. And
he was telling us in some of our guys, some
of the press guys got it understood, and I was
I was that dune from the back room thinking, but

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in it I was looking more long term and he
was looking short term. And again Chris Baller told us
this said where it was January, We're gonna bring another veteran,
and well, does Anthony Richardson have the leg up? We're
gonna go with the guy that that helps us win games?

Speaker 2 (01:01:35):
Does that okay?

Speaker 1 (01:01:36):
Does this make it chap in the event, let's say
they go out and they sign now and off the
beach veteran quarterback to be the backup because Anthony Richardson
is unavailable, does this allow for them perhaps to have
in the event, God forbid, you've got to go to
that and play that player. Does the the fact that

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the offense is rooted in simplicity make it easier to
transfer to a veteran quarterback if you need one to
spell you for a game or two.

Speaker 4 (01:02:06):
Well, I'd still rather have Anthony Richardson running my offense.
If if in three weeks he's ready to go and
God forbid, Daniel Jones gets hurt. I flipped back to
Richardson in a heartbeat.

Speaker 1 (01:02:17):
Well, I know I'm saying, if Richardson's unavailable and you've
got to go out and sign whoever, no question, is
there not as big a drop off in the cohesiveness
as we think.

Speaker 4 (01:02:28):
Probably because again you're gonna you're gonna then you're really
gonna transition more to the people around the quarterback. Although
it's gonna be harder to run the ball with Taylor
when everybody knows that's what you're gonna try to do
even more than you are now because I'm still waiting
for he's leading the league in rushing and I'm still
waiting for his big game. I'm just still waiting for

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him to break out and just go bonkers. But but yeah,
the guy to bring in, whoever it is, it'll be
as someone who can run, run the basics and not
get squarely. And like a perfect example is second half.
They it was a it was a twenty two yard
throat to Pierce on the left side that somehow got there,

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somehow got there through three three defenders. And Steichen was
telling us that during the week that he was talking
to Jones, and Jones said, you know, if if we
call this play, which that play and it was supposed
to go to the right side, and he said, I
tell you, if they give us this look on defense,
I'm going to whip around and come back to Pierce.

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And he told Pierce, now listen, if I see that,
be ready because it's coming to you. And that's what
he did, and that that's where he's playing chess. And
maybe other quarterbacks can't do that, but that just shows
you that this, you know, you always hear about guys
at first of him last out and doing the homework,
and we've heard countless story about that's Jones. It's Manning

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esque and Luck ask of what of what they're doing?
It was funny. Zach Keifer was at the game. I
was getting on him for being a bandwagon jumper coming
in in week six when they're winning, but he asked
Jones about you know, what do you do?

Speaker 3 (01:04:07):
You know?

Speaker 4 (01:04:07):
Are you you know, are you one of those guys
that you know you're locked in once the season starts?
He said, do you have any hobbies? And he sort
of said no. He said, most guys don't have hobbies
during during the season because because you're working, and when
you're at the office and you're working, you go home
and you spend time at night. So that that's what
you want. It's it's not you know, glamorous and all

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this when when remember Manning's the Manning Cave and all
that there's so much truth well.

Speaker 1 (01:04:36):
That hey, listen, I mentioned this earlier and I I
you know, I could pull up the direct quotes, but
to paraphrase it, Tua down in Miami, you know, after
the Dolphins season has gone awry, he finally just said
the quiet part out loud. It was like, look, we
got guys that are not showing up for meetings, we
got guys that are late. It's got to be across

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the board, et cetera. And this is the quarterback calling
out the right for not being on time. And maybe
it's too late or too late in this case, but
the point being, that's the stuff you're talking about, right,
You need that example at the very front of guys
falling in line. And it appears as though with this

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roster that's the case. Now, let me ask you this.
Yesterday there were a number of players that caught passes
from Daniel Jones. Ady Mitchell was a scratch at the
beginning of the year. Is this a continuation of the
discipline or are we starting to see the beginning of
the end.

Speaker 4 (01:05:37):
No, well, it's two things, not those two things, but
it's it's it's say, an extension of the discipline if
you want to call it that. But it's also a
reflection that Alec Pierce was active again.

Speaker 1 (01:05:51):
Well, I understand, but I mean, you know, Mitchell's been
on the field in games were you know, Alec Pierce
hadn't been heard all year, and there were games where
Alec Pierce was but.

Speaker 4 (01:06:00):
But but but but when when Pierce was out there
and Mitchell was out there, they really had to find
ways to get Mitchell on the field. One game, he
was on there for like nine stamps because Pierce, Pierce,
Hardy comes off the field. He and Pittman are out
there all the time. So, uh, no, I I think
it was They're not They're not even remotely ready to

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give up on Adi Mitchell. He's got so much talent.
He's just but at some point, at some point though,
it's like.

Speaker 2 (01:06:28):
Come on, yeah, I see it at some point right
like he has that like we've been.

Speaker 4 (01:06:33):
But you see just enough of it the way you
think you know, maybe, but it's it's the mess up
since you just had. At some point, the mess ups
overcome or outweigh the talent. We're not there remotely. I've
talked to Reggie enough to to know that he believes
in Mitchell, but he also understands, you know, this is

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the bottom line game. Uh so, so I we were
talking in the press room, and I really wonder that
barring injury, although guys get injured, but if Pierce, Pittman
and Down stay healthy, I don't know when Mitchell gets
back on the field, I don't know. And and also

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the problem is he doesn't play special teams at all.
He's never played a special team snap. So to have
a guy on your roster when when roster spots are
so precious on game day, and with the idea that well,
and let's say, I guess there, this guy's not playing
like your emergency, your backup quarterback. There's two guys aren't
going to play. So but but I my interesting thing

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I'd like to know, and we won't know except later on,
is will he will Will Mitchell use this uh being
a healthy scratch as motivation like, Hey, guys, I belong
on this team. I deserve it? Or that does he
does he pout? And and and that's I think that's

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a very valid question. I don't think Reggie will allow
the he's too much of a test master. I think
he's a player's coach. But he's also demanding. So that's
an that's such an interesting one thing.

Speaker 1 (01:08:09):
I mean, my point being, no matter you know, the
guy could be Usain Bolt, Carl Lewis and Edwin Moses
all wrapped into one with Jerry Rice's hands. But if
he is buried on the depth chart to the point
where he is a healthy scratch midway, you know, at
some point you got to say, okay, then then when
is it gonna come?

Speaker 2 (01:08:24):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 4 (01:08:26):
Yeah, that's and we're down that we're way I think
we're way far away from that. But the whole thing
is it's a matter of trust. Good old Billy Joelson,
it's a matter of trust when the coach and in
the quarterback, when do you because they'll say the right things.
We trust him. He's working hard on all this. But
Peyton Manning said, you earn your catches on Sunday by
what you do in practice. It's a quarterback doesn't doesn't

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trust you. Although this would be a case said you
don't trust what he does during the game. But if
if a quarterback doesn't trust you, if a coach doesn't
trust it's a quarterinat doesn't trust you, then how do
you get back on the field barring injury, and I
don't I don't see that path right now. But now,
will he be inactive the rest the last eleven games?
I would say no, just because again, guys get hurt.

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But I tell you they played those three receivers almost
exclusively yesterday. Aston Doodle was on the field for as
many defensive plays one as offensive plays one. So they go,
they're using two tight ends a lot. Of course, Tyler
Warren's sort of almost a receiver.

Speaker 2 (01:09:33):
He's whatever they want to, you know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (01:09:36):
He's to watch compairing to Dallas Clark, but he does
more than Dallas Clark. He just does. God love him.
Dallas Clark didn't block like this. This Tyler Warren is
a combination of Jack Doyle and Dallas Clark. You watch
some of those runs from Taylor and he does Jack
Doyle things in the line where he's smacking guys around

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h And there's still I'm sure there's still more of
what they can do. But that when you talk to
talk to Reggie sometimes and he says, you know, he's
taking away some some targets from my receivers, which is
a good thing. It really is. It should open things up.
But those receivers better understand that there may be one

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or two targets a game that maybe they used to
get it goes the to the young tight end.

Speaker 1 (01:10:25):
Now Tyler Warren is again he's one of the key
cogs that kind of makes everything float.

Speaker 2 (01:10:31):
Off of that.

Speaker 1 (01:10:32):
There was another player another play that I thought had
a marquee moment that was very telling about what makes
this Colts team different. I'll get into that just a
couple of minutes. Mike Chappell, appreciate the time. As always,
We'll talk to you next week. All right, You got
to be well. Mike Chapel of CBS four and wxin
Fox fifty nine on the Joba House peeling poor guest line.

Speaker 2 (01:10:53):
I mentioned it.

Speaker 1 (01:10:53):
There was one guy one play yesterday that I thought
jumped out, and I'm like that right there, that's what
makes this group a little bit different and why things
are working.

Speaker 2 (01:11:02):
As they are. I will tell you that.

Speaker 1 (01:11:03):
And I asked your thoughts your words, and six words
are fewer on this year's cold season. I'll read you
some of the best of those, and we'll open up
the phone lines as well. At two, three, nine, ten,
seventy even Terry who wants to talk? I you will
bring it in. It's a loaded Monday here on the fan.
There was a key first down that the Colts got

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yesterday that I thought really kind of exemplified who and
what they are in twenty twenty five.

Speaker 2 (01:11:33):
Not that it hasn't been the case all season.

Speaker 1 (01:11:37):
Or all, you know, last season in particular about this guy.
But I'll get into that in a second. But I
did ask yesterday give me six words or fewer to
describe your thoughts on the Colts through the twenty twenty
five season. I do this after each and every game,
and some of the better answers that I received, and
there were a ton of them that I got. Okay,

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who's your in? Kentucky? Says offensive? Super Bowl defensive, first
overall pick. I don't know if that's six words or not.
I didn't count him up. Tom surprisingly optimistic but readying
for heartbreak. I think there's a lot of people that
feel that way. Brian surprisingly fun to watch. I thought

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this was a good one from Purps one six y
one on the ex post Twitter reclamation quarterback delivers Us Lombardy.
That might be a little aggressive, but we shall see.
Right this from Jason ar injuries continue.

Speaker 2 (01:12:46):
You do feel.

Speaker 1 (01:12:49):
Bad for Anthony Richardson, but he is just a magnet
for the bizarre. Doug says, count on liking this season.
Now that used to be for years it was count
on losing this Sunday, count on liking this season. This
one from Grant. We are winning the Super Bowl, Okay.

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I mean at this point they're the number one seed
in the In the AFC, they're tied with Which is
the bigger surprise that the Colts are tied for the
best record in the league, or the fact that they
are tied with Tampa. Two quarterbacks that are both getting
second leases on life and making the most of it.

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Obviously in Baker Mayfield and what you are seeing from
Daniel Jones and the Colts. This from Bill their defense
is offensive. Okay, that's fair. That's fair. There was a
play where Jonathan Taylor got loose, and in watching it,

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because I'll be honest, I had to watch the game yesterday.

Speaker 2 (01:14:02):
I had to go back and rewatch it. I was in.

Speaker 1 (01:14:05):
Denver over the weekend and so I didn't see the game.
I was following it, and then I went back last
night and rewatched the game. Which is a good way
to do it, because obviously you can, I guess when
you watch it live now in today's day, you can
sit there and rewind and everything else. But but I
saw one thing, and I thought, am I seeing what

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I think here?

Speaker 2 (01:14:29):
And I'll give Chris Ballard credit.

Speaker 1 (01:14:33):
Because I think that, and I'm the first to admit
I was one of them. I was really cynical about
Ballard and down on him at times because I thought
he was building a football team in the wrong fashion.
And it's almost like Chris Ballard just held onto those
acid washed Lee jeans long enough that eventually they came

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back in style. But the narrow of the big, bruising
offensive line and then a running back, I mean, that
felt like such a mid eighties style of football. But
what and Tyler Warren changes so many things. But I
saw a play where they needed a first down and
Jonathan Taylor had what normally would be a routine run,

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but once he started to spring and probably would have
gotten a two or three yard game. Ahead of him
was Quentin Nelson blazing a path four years and four
yards in front of him, and he had one player
to get past in order to even be able to
then run behind Quentin Nelson, and there was an opening

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for him because Bordolini had his guy sealed off. Tyler Warren,
who appears to just love contact, came over and then
slid alongside Bordolini to seal off for Taylor. But there
was one one defensive lineman for Arizona, I can't remember

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which one that was about to basically make the stop.
It was the last barrier between Jonathan Taylor and then
getting up behind the comfort of the running wall of
Quentin Nelson in getting a first down, and that player,
not to say that Taylor could not have broken that tackle,
but that player was then sealed off because of a
flash in at the last second from Michael Pittman Junior.

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Michael Pittman, who has been battling through a back injury
a year ago, who has been durable, who I think
that a lot of people thought that his value was
in simply being some sort of a stretch receiver. But
Michael Pittman Junior, amongst all of those things, giving himself

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up and sliding over and all of a sudden, this
running play that you're seeing for Jonathan Taylor was an
orchestra of all of these pieces coming together and knowing
exactly where they needed to be. And it was a
little thing that turned a little play into a bigger
play and a chunk play that extended a drive. And

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that's kind of the Shane steichen mantra in the fact
that in Chris Ballard as well, everything like you kind
of start from the inside and then expanded outward. And
that particular play, I thought, showed everybody collectively not worrying
about who was getting the glitz, the glamour and the

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glory of that play, but rather being where they needed
to be.

Speaker 2 (01:17:38):
And if one.

Speaker 1 (01:17:39):
Person's out of position, that play doesn't work. But everybody
was exactly where they needed to be, and the cohesiveness
of them all working together is what made that play
operate and the Colts extended drive. And that's what this
team has been all about. It's not unlike what you
watch out of Indiana on Saturday. I mean you literally

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have in this town right now. You literally have a
college team and a pro team that are like playing
mirrored off one another in the same style, and just
a collection of players that are like, my job on
this play is to do this, and I'm not worried
about like who gets the big headline on this play.

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I mentioned Indiana. Terry has been patiently waiting. We're way over,
but I'm gonna take him anyway, patiently waiting to talk
AYU football.

Speaker 2 (01:18:29):
What's up, Terry?

Speaker 6 (01:18:30):
Hey, Jake, thanks for taking the call.

Speaker 2 (01:18:33):
Thank you for your patience, by the way, and.

Speaker 6 (01:18:35):
Sorry for carrying an older subject into the current subject.

Speaker 5 (01:18:38):
But seth It truly is just unfashionable. How we can
see where we are so much so that we don't
really even know how to act.

Speaker 1 (01:18:48):
You're talking about AU right, Yeah, and that's what's funny, Terry.
What's funny is this? Now Here's what's funny, Terry. When
you say that, I mean I knew that because I
can see the screen, or that you were calling in
talk about when you call in to say, I can't
believe we're in this position with this record for this
football team. And whoever would have guessed that the beauty
of it is you could have been talking about either

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one of them, the cults?

Speaker 2 (01:19:11):
Are I you right? But stick with IU? Go ahead?

Speaker 6 (01:19:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:19:16):
So about three years ago it came to my to ask,
or to my awareness, that of i U's history with losses,
you think and so I called in to give you
that fact that IU was the losingest Division one football
team in the history of college correct. And do you

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think that, prior to the hire for Signetti that Signetti
would occasionally.

Speaker 7 (01:19:45):
Sit around ponder, you know, I'm such a badass. I
could take the worst.

Speaker 5 (01:19:51):
Team in Division one and be a champion. And he
googled it.

Speaker 1 (01:19:59):
And what he say, now here's the thing, Terry, is
the worst thing. Now here's the thing, Terry. I'm going
to answer that question, and I'm going to do it
by explaining why exactly you just perfectly led me into
the segue of where it goes from here. And I
don't think Signetti googled that, but I think there's something

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else in play that you're onto and I will explain
exactly what I'm talking about. On the other side, Shane
Steichen's take on several things from yesterday we will play
for you coming up and just a little bit including
that of the quarterback situation and what we know and
I think we knew this last night. But you know,

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Anthony Richards is going to miss multiple games, not that
he is playing, but you get what I'm saying there.
And if you're just joining us, Mike Chapel mentioned earlier
the fact that he thought that the Colts would go
out and get themselves a veteran quarterback. Sign one, no
disrespect to Riley Leonard, but again, backup quarterbacks are like
donut tires. If you can use them for an exeter two,

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that's cool. If you try to maintain your exact voyage
on the interstate all the way through with one, then
you realize why they are the donut tire or the backup.
But in terms of Indiana and what Terry mentioned, I'm
going to get back into this, and I've thought about
this from several angles, and I realize, you know, the

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immediate association to Kurt Signetti in the Penn State job,
Penn State parting ways with James Franklin after their loss.
They have now lost three straight. The loss to Oregon
at home in overtime is relatively excusable, if you will,
unless you're Penn State, I guess. But then the other
two losses, I mean getting blown out at UCLA and

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losing to Northwestern, and enough was enough after twelve years
James Franklin out. Now, this is a coach that if
you think about it, you know of late was within
a half of playing for a national championship game in
a national championship game. But you know, it's all about recency,

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and especially at a place like Penn State. Kurt Signetti
is a Pennsylvania native. Kurt Signetti has coached at three
different colleges in the state of Pennsylvania. He played collegiately
at West Virginia. He grew up in the Pittsburgh area,
and one would assume that Kurt Signetti growing up whether

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or not he was a Penn State fan growing up,
I don't know. I don't know that answer, but when
you grow up in Pennsylvania, it is impossible to not
know of the power of the brand of Penn State football.
And having nothing to do with some of the cloud
of what has happened at Penn State, the reality is this,

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even if the scandal at Penn State had never happened
and Joe Paterno had simply retired, the reality is when
you have a coach that is larger than life. You
know at Florida you have If you go to Florida,
are you trying to live up to Urban Meyer or

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are you trying to live up to Steve Spurrier? You know,
if you go to Alabama, now you obviously are trying
to live up to Nick Saban, but there's also Bear
Bryant there. Different schools have different and I realized that
Indiana from a basketball standpoint, Branch McCracken was a great
and successful coach and there was a basketball program in
Indiana of success long before Bob Knight ever stepped foot

(01:23:42):
in Bloomington, Indiana. But nonetheless, now from a basketball standpoint, Indiana,
since Bob Knight's departure, Indiana has yet to ever hire
a coach that was their first cho Well, I shouldn't
say that. Maybe Archie Miller was the one guy they
went after where they just said we're going after this

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guy and we're gonna get him.

Speaker 2 (01:24:06):
But when.

Speaker 1 (01:24:08):
But outside of that, and that was one that that
was just a bizarre thing in general, he's like Gerald
Ford like, it's like this administration you almost forget about.

Speaker 2 (01:24:16):
You're like, oh, yeah, I forgot about that one.

Speaker 1 (01:24:18):
But Indiana has had, you know, when they've gone after
their big fish higher Brad Stevens, notably, they have not
been able to bring it in for whatever reason. And
Brad Stevens is the guy that grew up in Indiana,
knew of the power of Indiana basketball, the branding of
Indiana basketball, coached at a smaller school in Indiana, coached

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in Indiana, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. Right, and
with all of that, still and I realized the Boston
Celtics is a lot different than than where he is, right,
and so the.

Speaker 2 (01:24:52):
But the reality is this.

Speaker 1 (01:24:56):
I think Kurt Signetti with Penn State, and I think
Penn State fans assume that the lure of Penn State
is going to immediately bring in like a Signetti. All
they gotta do is make that phone call and he's
gonna come. Well, he's making roughly nine at Indiana. Penn
State will probably pay up to like fifty. Let's say
Penn State says we got a five year, seventy five

(01:25:17):
million dollars deal. First off, I think Matt Ruhle is
going to be their first choice. He played at Penn State,
he's tight with the athletic director, he's turned around programs.
But even if Signetti was their guy, the point that
Terry makes, I think the challenge and the pride, Kurt
Signetti's wired differently. Kurt Signetti is wired in such a
way that I don't think he's an easy road guy.

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And what he's done at Indiana is remarkable, and I
think he takes pride in the fact that Indiana is
his He can be Indiana's Joe Paterno, and I think
he knows that. And it's for that reason that I
don't think that Penn State lures him away. I think
I think Indiana if you want an explanation on why
Signetti is not going to end up in Happy Valley,

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he may. But if he doesn't, Indiana fans can take
a little bit of a sigh or a deep breath
of looking at it and saying, well, why has Brad
Stevens not come to Indiana. It's very similar. Big news
in the AFC South, And we'll let you hear what
Shane Steiken had to say yesterday. Next, here's a really

(01:26:32):
good point, really good point texted to me. It would
be dumb for Penn State to go after Kurt Signetti.
He's a lock for the playoffs, meaning they can't touch
him until late January, which would destroy what recruits they
could pick from. That's a really good point as well.
All Right, yesterday, big win for the Colts they are

(01:26:54):
five and one. They are doing historic things in terms
of their offense to a level in for a town
that has been used to seeing great offensive play, you know,
to see an offense that is clicking on these cylinders
is still surreal. Because Daniel Jones, I don't think anybody

(01:27:16):
ever would confuse him, obviously with Peyton Manning, right, but
the efficiency in which they're running is impressive. For example,
this from Matt Contier the Colts. The Colts were four
for four in the red zone against Arizona. It's the
first time the Colts have recorded back to back games

(01:27:37):
with one red zone efficiency since twenty twenty. The Colts
have scored one hundred and ninety four points through their
first six games this season. That is the most for
any team during that span in the Indianapolis era. Think
about that, of all of the great offenses you've seen here,
the great offensive players, they are off to the most

(01:28:00):
efficient offensive start in their history since the Mayflowers arrived. Now,
if you go back to yesterday, I think there was
a microcosm of where the Colts are right now.

Speaker 2 (01:28:16):
That was.

Speaker 1 (01:28:18):
That took place before the ball was even kicked off.
And I'm talking about the surreal nature of Anthony Richardson
in the locker room doing a stretch with you guys
have all seen it. You know, you put your foot
on a thing and there's a big rubber band and
you're pulling it Upward. I assume that's what he was

(01:28:38):
stretching with, and then all of a sudden it snaps
and the wooden part of the device comes flying back
up in the air, hits him in the eye and boom,
orbital bone fracture. And he is expected to miss multiple games.
And then you have Shavarius Mooney Ward out on the
field before the game working out and Drew Ogletree is

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running it out for getting himself formed up as a
tight end. The two collide and Ward, who was assigned
essentially one would assume to just shadow Marvin Harrison Junior
the entire game. He also doesn't make it out because
he's got a concussion before the game. Shane Steichen yesterday
talked about the surreal nature of the injuries before the
game even began.

Speaker 8 (01:29:23):
It was very interesting, to say the least.

Speaker 2 (01:29:27):
It was.

Speaker 8 (01:29:28):
It was we had to kind of rally the troops
there in the locker room and get get our get
us back into focus, and uh, I thought our guys
did that the right way and just obviously hope ar
is good and and Mooney's good. Yeah, that was that
was just trying to get the guys back on focus.

Speaker 1 (01:29:47):
That personifies this season because what has this year been
about for the Colts. It's been about trying to refocus,
get everybody gathered together and not pay attention to the
external noise and just get back down to the brass tacks.

(01:30:08):
And in that game yesterday against Arizona, you have those
two things happening, the Richardson injury happening in the locker room,
the Ward injury happening, and you know people coming in
and going did you hear what just happened out on
the field for those that hadn't gone out yet, and
you've got to get everybody together and say, okay, guys,
we've got to kind of calm down here and reset

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the deck. We've got to just let's just focus on
what's going on. And that's what this team has been about,
because this time of year ago, you're talking about the
quarterback helmet tapping and guys, you know who's going to
be the quarterback and what's going on in terms of

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are the running back who had held himself out, and
meetings and buses and all kinds of stuff, all kinds.

Speaker 2 (01:30:57):
Of noise going on.

Speaker 1 (01:30:59):
This entire year has been about just kind of settling
things down, and I think a part of that comes
down to Daniel Jones and the selection of Daniel Jones
at quarterback, because when you look at the way he
played yesterday, again microcosm Jones when he throws a pick,

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and we saw this in Los Angeles against the Rams.
There are a lot of quarterbacks that when they throw
an interception, it can derail the best of the best.
It can happen to that, it can derail the game
and things can unravel very quickly. That was not the
case with Daniel Jones, who continues to play at this
point through six games at an MVP level. And Shane

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Stiken also has noticed just a professional composure and the
overall placid and maintaining without any sort of nerve getting
into it emotion of Daniel Jones.

Speaker 8 (01:31:59):
He's pretty calm. I think he's got laser focus, he's
locked in. I think it's it's his preparation. You know
a lot of you guys have heard me say that,
but his preparation that he puts in during the week,
Like when you're prepared like the way he does, right,
you don't blink like you go out and you have
confidence in your ability because you know you put in
the work like he does. And when you put in
the work like that and you go execute like he's

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been doing and the guys are making plays around him
and the O line's blocking, it's fun as a coach
to watch.

Speaker 1 (01:32:26):
And again, what's fun is seeing your team atop the
AFC South A Division. We're already the first coaching casualty
has taken place because Corbyn, if I'm not mistaken, we
just found out in the last couple of minutes that
there has been a change made in Nashville, correct, that
is right, and that change.

Speaker 2 (01:32:44):
Would be Ryan Callahan is out as the Tennessee Titans,
said coach.

Speaker 1 (01:32:48):
Okay, so the Titans already and again, I mean nobody
was expecting Tennessee this year to do really anything. But
what do you have there? You have a rookie quarterback
in cam Ward. You have of instability in the way
that they're playing now all of a sudden and so
much so much of a young quarterback in the development

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of one is putting them in the right position, having
the right things around them. And now Tennessee finds themselves.
You know, look no further than Jacksonville and Trevor Lawrence,
who had all the tools coming in. He's got Urban
Meyer and they make that coaching change. It is so
important to get the right stability around a young player,

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and the Colts now have that in Jones. But you
wonder with Daniel Jones, go back to his time in
New York, when Daniel Jones was in New York and
Daniel Jones was the quarterback for the Giants and they
get rid of Saquon Barkley and all of a sudden,
they're just as like turmoil in New York and he

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can't get any footing. And then you begin to wonder,
is it the franchise, is it the coaching is at
the quarterback, whatever it may be. And Jones and I
think that we and ours think to ourselves, this is
a guy that went straight from a bad situation in
New York, came into one in Indianapolis. It seems to
be a good fit. They've got tons of weapons around him,

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They've got a very good offensive line, Tyler Warren is
a centerpiece in terms of what they want to do offensively.
But we forget Daniel Jones in the intermediary did have
a stop in Minnesota as well, in watching the Vikings
a year ago and being there, and I think that
there is part of what he saw in Minneapolis that

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transferred to Indianapolis, just the.

Speaker 9 (01:34:34):
Level of detail that they operated under. I think, you know,
just so so specific about you know, what looks were
getting this week, Where's the answer? How do we recognize it?
You know, how do we walk through it, how do
we prepare to see it? You know, having quick answers
on what if this happens, what if that happens. I mean,

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all the all the situations that could come up in
a game. You know, they were you know, Ko, Grant,
Josh and then Sam and all the quarterbacks were constantly
quizzing each other and checking and making sure that they're
ready to go for whatever the defense could do.

Speaker 1 (01:35:13):
And again, the most important part of that play again
for me, Corbyn, the very first thing he said the
first three seconds of this sound clip of Daniel Jones
talking about what he witnessed in Minnesota, just the level.

Speaker 9 (01:35:26):
Of detail that they operated under I think you know
just so so specific about you know what looks we're
getting this week, whereas.

Speaker 1 (01:35:36):
They go right there the attention to detail. I don't
know is he did he not have that in New York?

Speaker 2 (01:35:44):
I don't know, But.

Speaker 1 (01:35:49):
This simply is working in terms of the relationship. Whether
or not Daniel Jones learned that on the job, whether
or not Daniel Jones has always had that and didn't
have it about himself I mean, and didn't have it
in New York. I don't know, But I mentioned this
all the time. Sometimes there is more to it than

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what we realize on it. And when Shane Steiken grabbed
Daniel Jones as his starting quarterback, I think there is
more to it than in the time we knew.

Speaker 2 (01:36:32):
The first being do we know.

Speaker 1 (01:36:37):
When Anthony Richardson was handed the keys as a young player,
that Shane Stiken made that decision, or that Chris Ballard
even made that decision, or was there a mandate there?
And we can look back now and say that that
probably was premature because what you did was you handed
the keys and you had in the driver's seat a

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player that a no fault of his, didn't have the
experience of the maturity to understand attention to detail, and
when they tried to send the message of attention to detail,
was that fully supported and backed up. And then when

(01:37:18):
Shane Steiken announced Daniel Jones as the starter, I think
there were a lot of us, myself included that thought
perhaps that was simply another wake up call to try
to get Anthony Richardson going, when in reality what it
was was Shane Steiken was looking at this football team
and at this roster and at the new additions and

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Tyler Warren and everything else, and he was saying, the
missing ingredient here isn't even necessarily the making the immediate throw,
making the layups, being able to go through all the
progressions and reads. The missing ingredient here is the attention
to every detail and the understanding of the importance of that,

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of being able to always have the right play, how
to get out of a bad play, how to turn
a bad play into a at least we got by
on second down and didn't lose five yards play. And
I think that he was able to see that that
existed within Daniel Jones, partially because of the journey that

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Daniel Jones has been on, and it absolutely is working now.
And what is amazing to me is the fact that
we have gone from the beginning of the year looking
at the schedule and trying to figure out exactly what
the Colts record was going to be by figuring out
which games they could win, and now you look at

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it and yeah, there's a little bit of a you know,
obviously a danger and looking at it and a boredom
of looking at it and going, Okay, let's do schedule
predictions and record predictions whatever else. But when you look
at it now, you start to look at it and
you go, where are the loss is gonna come? I mean,
we're starting to now through six games, figure out who's

(01:39:08):
good and who's not. And when you look at it, Okay,
there's a challenge this week against the Chargers, but is
there because their old line has not been great the Colts.
The one thing the Colts, if there is a deficiency,
they're not getting to opposing quarterbacks with much frequency. But nonetheless, okay,
nonetheless the offensive line for the Chargers is not great.

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You can get to Justin Herbert and interrupt him a
little bit. Then you go to Tennessee, which we just
talked about, is now well, Tennessee actually comes here, but
I'm saying, you get Tennessee at home. They're a complete
dumpster fire. They're looking for a new head coach, they
got a rookie quarterback. It's a disaster, right Atlanta, Well,

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you got Pittsburgh. And Pittsburgh's another one that it's like, are.

Speaker 2 (01:39:56):
The Steelers good? I don't know. Oh, the Steelers good.
They must be because look at them. They're leading their division.
Aaron Rodgers is not necessarily like you know, fifteen year
ago Aaron Rodgers. But he's playing pretty well. DK Metcalf
is doing some DK Metcalf things at times. But then

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after that, who jumps out at you? Kansas City? Okay?
Does San Francisco at home? Scary at this point? Okay?
And then I mean lo and behold.

Speaker 1 (01:40:30):
They are the number one seed in the AFC, and
they may well be holding onto that for a while,
so long as they stay healthy and the Colts are playing.
And by the way, I was incorrect earlier, I apologize. Yes,

(01:40:51):
Purdue is right number one. It is not Rob Blackman
that is joining us later in the program, coming up
about fifteen minutes from now. But we're going inside the
Colts locker room. Correct, Corbyn is right. Would you like
to embellish on that or elaborate?

Speaker 2 (01:41:03):
I should say, Makaile Blackman is going to join us
at two thirty.

Speaker 1 (01:41:07):
Jai okay, Makai Blackman joining us bottom of the hour,
So we'll get a better glimpse into the mood, the
atmosphere of the Colts in general. But the thing being
here the Colts. To me, there are like two parallel
stories right now in Indiana when it comes to football.
One is the Colts and the other's I you, because

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what Indiana did over the weekend at Oregon was.

Speaker 2 (01:41:33):
That was.

Speaker 1 (01:41:37):
Indiana right now. If the Indianapolis Colts are the surprising
number one seed in the AFC, the reality is this,
the Indiana Hoosiers of Kurt Signetti may well be the
best team in college football. They might know, I know
the ranked third, and I know Miami's got an impressive
win winning at home over Notre Dame, and Miami Miami's

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been is very, very good, and Ohio State is obviously elite.
Ohio State's offense is as good as anybody. Ohio State
defensively in the red zone is as good as anybody.
I get it. But right now in terms of body
of work. The most impressive college football win of the
twenty twenty five season belongs to the Indiana Hoosiers. Indiana

(01:42:20):
going in and winning at Oregon, and not just winning,
but doing it in the same way as kind of
the Colts have won. Of precision. Like Daniel Jones was
talking about, you could take sound clips of the Colts
talking about their approach to games, of the Colts talking

(01:42:40):
about what they do over the course of games. You
could take those clips and say that it's an Indiana
football player talking about IU and you would say that's yeah,
that's right, because they're winning in similar fashion. They're going
out the precise they are controlling lines of scrimmage, they're
controlling in the trenches. And in Indiana's case, what Indiana

(01:43:00):
did to me that was so impressive was Indiana went
in and they out pizzazzed Oregon. Indiana flew to the football.
Indiana was faster than Oregon. Indiana was more aggressive than Oregon.
Indiana's linebackers were more tenacious than Oregon's. Indiana ran and

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punched between the tackles more than Oregon. Indiana's quarterback when
needed to be so was more precise than Oregons, and
Oregon's is very good. But they went in to that
atmosphere where so many teams go in and struggle, and
they went in against a team that has been as

(01:43:41):
much style as anybody in college football. But they've got
substance to back it up. Does Oregon, even though they
have not won a national title. They've been right there
in the mix for a while now. But Oregon is
all about the Nike money, the glitz, the glamour, all
of it. The duck with his fancy sign making fun

(01:44:03):
of the Indy five hundred.

Speaker 2 (01:44:04):
I thought it was funny, actually, But with all.

Speaker 1 (01:44:08):
Of that, it was Indiana, nondescript, non sexy, efficient Indiana
that went into Oregon and controlled the latter part of
that game. And I thought you could tell and listen

(01:44:28):
when when Indiana had to go they had multiple drives
in that game. Did Indiana in a in a raucous,
hostile environment where they responded And Mendoza showed the kind
of composure that has him right there in the argument
in the discussion for the Heisman, And I said earlier,

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I thought the play of the game in that game
in Eugene came and I think it was in the
either late first or early second quarter. Mendoza looks to
the side they need a first down. He completes it
to Cooper, who makes an unbelievable one handed catch. I

(01:45:14):
mean it was a great catch. The one handed nature
of the catch alone was impressive. But he makes that
one handed catch and then and this is where Indiana
is different. It's what makes Daniel Jones and what he
said about what he learned in Minnesota different. And it's
what makes what the Colts are doing translatable and transferable

(01:45:37):
to what Indiana's doing. Omar Cooper Junior makes this unbelievable
one handed catch. But then he comes down. He's right
on the sideline and he knows he needs like three
or four more yards to get the first down, so
he makes the one handed catch. He comes down, he
makes a spin move, gets an extra dive and gets

(01:46:00):
the first down and keeps the drive going. And it's
that attention to detail, It's that awareness, it's that vision
that is different than most teams. And that comes down
to preparation, that comes down to dedication, that comes down

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to coaching, and that comes down to a brand and
a mantra that is why Indiana two years ago was
doing finger snaps and singing fight songs at a whisper
to celebrate a four overtime win over Akron. And now
they have the highest rating ranking in the history of

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the program. And it's turned around that quickly. And it's
the best story right now in college football, and it
might be the best story in Indianapolis sports. And that's
with the professional sports team, one of their players, of
which is going to join US an under ten. That's
it comes with that that the I mean it, Eclip

(01:47:06):
says the fact that the Colts might be the best
team right now in the NFL, and the best team
in college football may well be the Indiana Fight and Hoosiers.
John joins us on the program at two through nine,
ten seventy. What's up, John?

Speaker 7 (01:47:18):
Hey, there, you know I heard something interesting. New Heisl
CBS Sports was at the Oregon Indiana game. In postgame,
they interviewed Signetti and new Heisl asked Signetti, what did
he tell Mendoza when he threw that pick six? And
Signetti said, I went up to him and I asked

(01:47:39):
him if he was having fun. And I think that
tells a lot about the coach he realized at twenty
to twenty he needed more from Mendoza. He needed him
not to wilt and he needed to do He needed
him to perform for the remainder of the game, and
he asked him if he was having fun.

Speaker 1 (01:48:00):
I just think, John, and we don't know, right. We've
been able to watch Kurt Signetti here for what nineteen
games in Indiana, and anybody that says that they watched
him game in and game out at James Madison, I mean,
did anybody in Indiana really do that? So we're still
getting to know him, but so too are his players,
probably to an extent. But he seems to always know

(01:48:21):
which button to push, right, And that's John. That's the
key to it, right, is there's nothing about Signetti is
enigmatic because when you look at him, he didn't look
like the in your face Lombardi tile type coach, right,
But from a scheme standpoint, a belief standpoint, in every

(01:48:43):
area of it, so far, he has been able to
push every button. And I think he loves the challenge.
I think he's a challenge guy. He challenged Mendoza right there.
I think he loves the challenge. I think he also
loves the challenge of maintaining what he's built at Indiana,
and his name's going to be circled elsewhere, and I
don't think he has any interest in it. I think

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he's the long term guy in Indiana and I'm telling
you right now, they may be the best team in
college football and he did it. Is one of the
most remarkable stories that we've seen in college football period period.
And by the way, speaking of rankings, perdue number one
college basketball preseason holes are out and the boiler Makers

(01:49:26):
and Matt Painter are number one in the land. As
for the Colts big win yesterday, they sit right now
atop the AFC in terms of seeding. If the playoffs
began today, which they don't, the Colts will be the
number one seed. But one of the guys that's been
a big part of that, and he plays in a
unit that has really had to dig down deep. Kyle
Blackman joins US next second straight game with an interception

(01:49:48):
for Mikai Blackman, and it was a really big one
as the Colts get to win yesterday over the Arizona Cardinals.
Makai Blackman, by the way, began his college career at
the University of Colorado. Several people have asked, and I'm
happy to report that in my trip to Denver, Shannon
did pick me up at the airport. I did not
have to uber one hundred and thirty five bucks from

(01:50:09):
the Denver airport to Highland's Ranch, which is suburban Denver.
I mean that airport is like halfway to Kansas, if
you really want to know the truth. But joining us
now on the Java House, Peel and poor guest line.
In just a couple of minutes from now, we will
have Mikai Blackman. Do we not have Makay yet?

Speaker 2 (01:50:25):
No, they're still meetings. Okay, so my apologies.

Speaker 1 (01:50:29):
I thought we had Blackman there, so he will be
joining us just a couple of minutes from now. We
shall see with Makay Blackman on when he's able to
join the show. But again I thought yesterday the you know,
that is a unit in terms of that defensive backfield
that they continue to have to play through, and obviously

(01:50:50):
you had that yesterday with the news with Shavarius Ward
before the game Moony Ward getting the concussion, and it
is a unit that has been continued to have to
dig further in down to make plays, and it can't
be easy, but I've always felt like that is one area,
that one unit, if you will, in the defensive backfield,

(01:51:14):
where you know you see guys that can be plugged
in at both running back in defensive back are the
two positions I've always felt like you can kind of
go in and get by on instinct or just overall
feel because you're less reliant necessarily on all of the

(01:51:36):
guys that are lighting directly alongside you, like an offensive
lineman or a defensive lineman. I think are very reliant
on familiarity of teammate around you. And you know, the
Colts have had to this year. And I've been critical
at Chris Ballard in a lot of areas, but one
area where I have to give him some credit is,
you know, a year ago when it came to his

(01:51:58):
corners and his safeties, when he just said, look, I
got to see these guys play. I'm not going to
know what I have until I see them play. And
he did have injury at with some of those guys.
Juju Bruns comes to mind, but I think he essentially
was able to say, Okay, I saw them play. Now,
and I've seen them play enough to know that we

(01:52:19):
had to go kind of you know, and shore things up.
And and yes, I saw enough of the guys that
I had to know that in fact, we've got to
go a different way and go shopping. And that's how
you end up with Muney Ward. That's how you end
up with Cam buying them. And truthfully, that's how you
end up with Makai Blackman, who they made the deal

(01:52:41):
for to get him out of Minnesota. And sometimes it's
good to bring in differing opinion, differing viewpoint because you
can get guys that come in that you know, was
it by design? When Daniel Jones came in and we

(01:53:03):
heard what Daniel Jones had to say about playing in Minnesota. Look,
this was a franchise in Minnesota that had attention to detail.
This is a franchise. What I saw in Minnesota was
a group that was locked down and had every single
little aspect of each week attention to detail covered. Now

(01:53:31):
does that mean that did that have a factor?

Speaker 2 (01:53:34):
And why?

Speaker 1 (01:53:35):
Okay, let's that mentality, that footprint of what they are.
We've got to get other guys and bring that in.
Did Daniel Jones share that in Chris Ballard's like okay?
So then Therefore, I'm comfortable with getting a guy and
making a trade for a guy like Blackman who's coming
from there. You know, I don't know. I don't know
if that was a factor or not. But I think

(01:53:59):
it's interesting that Shane Steiken so adamantly preached the importance
of that detail and now they're getting contribution from guys
that are coming from an organization that that detail was
important and was a key ingredient to what made Minnesota

(01:54:21):
a year ago successful. And then the other thing, and
this is a conversation for a much further down the
way road. But the other thing that comes into play
or that is of interest is if you look at
Minnesota a year ago, with that in Sam Bradford and
the reclamation project that was Sam Bradford, they still decided
to go in another direction. And yes, they had a

(01:54:43):
young quarterback in the wings and JJ McCarthy who they
had to get healthy, and Bradford's playing well in Seattle now,
and so the Colts themselves. I think with each passing
week we are seeing more and more the cement of
the fact that that is not going to be of question.
It comes to the future of Daniel Jones. But who knows.

(01:55:03):
Do the Colts look at it at the end of
the year and say, Okay, this is a Sam Bradford situation.
We got this far, but we feel like we have
somebody that we can plug in this. I don't think
that's going to be the case. What this guy's doing
in the Composure and Daniel Jones is fascinating to me

(01:55:25):
because after games the guy seems like he's like two
aspens from a coma. Like he comes in is just
very even Keel doesn't seem to be a huge raw
Rah build him up guy, but the approach that he's
had and then the ability to go out and bounce
back from adversity in game. It's one thing to have
adversity and have a week to come back from it,

(01:55:49):
but it's another to have adversity and have a drive
to have to come back for like the next possession,
to play possession to possession. That is in itself a challenge, right,
And so I think Jones, when you look at it,
you've got to give him a ton of credit for
the fact that that is. You know, there's a professionalism

(01:56:13):
there that just comes from being that goldfish, and so
far it's masterful and the way that it has worked.
And I never thought I would say this. I never
thought at the beginning of the year I would say it.
And six games does not a season make. They're not

(01:56:35):
even a third of the way through the year. But
right now, Daniel Jones is right in the mix and
in the discussion for MVP conversation in the National Football League,
And if you're the Giants, or for that matter, of
the Vikings, you got to be looking at it going,
how do we let this guy get out the door?
Is he Joe Montana probably not? Is he Tom Brady
probably not? Is he Andrew luck probably not? Is he

(01:56:57):
Patrick Mahomes probably not. But he's really solid. And what
the Colts have done is built a very solid foundation
around him and give him the weapons that are necessary.
And yet, Tyler Warren, we probably haven't talked enough about
him today. I could probably do three hours tomorrow doing
nothing but talking about Tyler Warren and the ability to
put him in different spots, put him in different areas,

(01:57:20):
get the touchdown pass to him, use him as a blocker,
opening up holes for Jonathan Taylor, polling with Quentin Nelson.
All of those things are enabled and facilitated by the
fact that Tyler Warren is on the field. And if
you're just joining us on the show today, the other
big news in the NFL today is the fact that Tennessee,
and it's notable because of the fact that Tennessee is

(01:57:43):
within the AFC South Brian Callahan out in Tennessee and
that could theoretically set back Tennessee for a while because
you have a young quarterback, a number one overall pick,
and I'm telling you it is so important to have
stability around a young player like that. And for cam Ward,

(01:58:03):
it's Trevor Lawrence with Urban Meyer and that fiasco all
over again, where you're looking at it and you're like, look,
I'm trying to figure out where I want to be
here and what I want to be And now all
of a sudden, I got to go through a coaching
change six games into my NFL career. The hell are
we doing? And the other big story is that of
the AP Top twenty five preseason college basketball poll. Yeah,

(01:58:26):
I get it, Jake, preseason polls, What does that mean?

Speaker 2 (01:58:30):
I get it.

Speaker 1 (01:58:30):
There's always a couple of teams in the preseason top
twenty five. Who are the top two teams in the
preseason College football poll Texas and Penn State. One just
found their way back into the top twenty five and
the other is cruising LinkedIn for a coach. So take
with a great assault the preseason top twenty five. But nonetheless,

(01:58:53):
nonetheless not a huge surprise, of course, but back or
they have belonged for the last couple of years, that
dynamic trio, Trey Kaufman, Wren Fletcher, Lawyer, Braiden Smith, amongst others,
Matt Painters, Perdue Boiler Makers are the number one team
in college basketball, the number one team in the land

(01:59:16):
in the preseason Top twenty five, Perdue, and yes, they're
gonna have a target on their back, but you know what,
we talked about it with Mike de Corsi last week.
I think Braden Smith likes that. It's funny because Braiden
Smith's a guy that was basically off radar for the
better part of his coming of age as a basketball player,

(01:59:36):
and now on radar doesn't seem to bother them at all.
And what Matt Painter has done is incredible because in
the transfer portal nil era, Perdue basketball has had this
stability year in and year out, where you know, every
year the faces may change, the names may change, but

(01:59:56):
the blueprint and the style stays the same. And to
be able to maintain a cohesive corps in today's era
is remarkable and rare. I mean rare. You just don't
see it. You don't see it in today's day. But
yet Matt Pain has this. And I go back to

(02:00:19):
what I talked about with Mike de Corsi. I remember
a couple of years ago, marquee player Perdue was in
the discussion to land said player. Then all of a sudden,
Perdue was like, nowhere to be found in recruiting said player.
And I ask him, this player is allegedly interested in Purdue,
but Purdue doesn't seem to have reciprocal interest. And the

(02:00:41):
response I got back was, that's because that is a handout,
pay for play, kid, and we don't want any part
of it. And that goes back to culture. Joining us
now on the Java House, Peel and poor guest line
he had yesterday his second interception in as many games
for the Colts. Makai Blackman, the cornerback for Indianapolis, joining
us on the show.

Speaker 2 (02:00:59):
Mikayle Hi, you I'm doing good?

Speaker 6 (02:01:01):
What about you?

Speaker 2 (02:01:02):
Uh? Listen?

Speaker 1 (02:01:03):
Man, like the whole city like a cloud nine here, right,
and the fact that let me ask you something and
be honest, if I would have told you at the
time that you found out you were going to be
in Indianapolis, cult that there's six games, you were going
to be the number one seed in the AFC, you
would have.

Speaker 2 (02:01:16):
Said what to me?

Speaker 6 (02:01:18):
I would have said, I believe you.

Speaker 2 (02:01:20):
That's why you're there, right, Yeah, I believe you. What
about it?

Speaker 1 (02:01:26):
Let me I mean, aside from the obvious, which is, hey,
if you play there, you gotta believe I get that, right,
But what is it? What is it that has managed
to have everything come together like this?

Speaker 6 (02:01:38):
I mean, I would say, just in my short time here,
you could tell the coaches, the you know, supports to
have everybody is close, tight knit, so you know, even
pregame with us, just you know, going around shaking everybody
up in.

Speaker 2 (02:01:49):
The team room.

Speaker 6 (02:01:50):
I would say, that's a big part of it. That's
the first time I kind of seen people, you know,
interact that way. So I would say, just the group
being tight knit. You know, nobody want to let anyone down,
Everybody trying to do their job to the best of
their abilities, you know, for the person that they playing with.
So I would say that's the main part when you.

Speaker 1 (02:02:05):
Talk about the locker room in general. I want to
go back to yesterday before the game and just if
you could, for us and for fans explain just kind
of the mindset of the bizarre nature of Anthony Richardson
getting hurt in the locker room, Mooney Ward getting hurt
on the field and having to kind of process all
of that and then go out and play.

Speaker 6 (02:02:27):
Yeah, I mean, you can't really script it any crazier
than that. That's something I've never seen before. But like
I said, we have a tight knit group. Everybody trusts everybody,
regardless the situation. Those two guys went down unfortunately, but
you know, we kind of got the guys you know
that were next line. Everybody has to step up and
do their job. So I feel like we did that yesterday.

(02:02:48):
We came out with the win. So just hoping those
guys get healthy as soon as possible.

Speaker 1 (02:02:52):
Daniel Jones said after the game, Makay Kyle Blackman is
our guest on the job of house peel and poor
guest line. He said after the game that when he
was in Minnesota, the thing that most impressed him about
what he learned with the Vikings was the attention to
detail and just within that that franchise and you get it,
you were there. Can can you elaborate on that and

(02:03:14):
how you have been able to see that in Indianapolis.

Speaker 6 (02:03:18):
I just feel like even Dang before he went to Minnesota,
I feel like he was a guy you know that
took that detailed process. But I felct the quarterback situation
over there in Minnesota they kind of handle it similar
to how djsss he is here. So I mean, I
would just say it goes hand in hand. Dj is
a guy who he wants to be prepared and you know,
being invested in for the team because he is our

(02:03:39):
leader in our quarterback. So I would say that's just
kind of the guy he is and wanting to, you know,
do everything the right way and have things done on
time and on schedule.

Speaker 1 (02:03:47):
How challenging has it been as a unit for the
defensive backfield to not have continuity at the fault of nobody,
I mean due to attrition and injury in general. Right
in Jalen Jones being out, you know, the different injury
as you guys have had to deal with Maay, how
challenging is that.

Speaker 6 (02:04:04):
I mean, I guess that's what makes the NFL so special.
We signed the guy who's past, we think he wound
up playing a lot of snaps. I mean it's just
you know, just kind of getting everybody communicating. Like I said,
we still have a close knit group. We kind of brought.
We bring the guys along. I mean, I'm gonna been
here six six weeks myself, so I would say, even
me just getting you know, caught up. And I'm kind

(02:04:25):
of a guy who's looked at as an older guy
now and I've only been here six months of lives
coming in. I'm trying to get those guys caught up
as well. Like I said, the next man, regardless of
somebody goes down, gets hurt, is out. I guess we
kind of all, you know, had that mindset of the team.

Speaker 1 (02:04:41):
Okay, lastly, before we let you go, Macaw, I got
to ask you this. You finished your college career at USC, right,
you started at Colorado, you finished at USC, correct? Yes, Okay,
so I'd like to know this which is more bizarre
for you to still think that USC now is a
Big ten team, or to think that the Big Ten
champions are going to be the Indiana fighting Hoosiers.

Speaker 6 (02:05:03):
So I feel like you're trying to bait me into something.
But no, Wolf, I don't really. I'm not gonna get
into the You know, USC is my alma manter. Y'all
got a few teams that we play against in Indiana
and Notre Dame and stuff like that, So I don't know.

Speaker 1 (02:05:18):
Man, how about those Hoosiers? Come on, you give up
some love for Indiana.

Speaker 6 (02:05:22):
Come on, you are playing real good football a right now,
so let's congress you guys. I guess someone Indiana who's
your fan?

Speaker 3 (02:05:28):
Now?

Speaker 2 (02:05:28):
I like that? I like that.

Speaker 1 (02:05:30):
Well, listen, so two of the Colts playing great football
obviously right now at five and one big pick yesterday
that was a huge part of the game.

Speaker 2 (02:05:36):
Certainly appreciate the time today.

Speaker 1 (02:05:38):
Congratulations, and we will get you on to work now
getting ready for the Chargers.

Speaker 6 (02:05:43):
Yes, sir, have a good day, all right.

Speaker 1 (02:05:44):
Makayy Blackman joining us on the Java house peeling poor
guest line way over.

Speaker 2 (02:05:48):
John is in. We will hand it off to him.
We'll do it.

Speaker 1 (02:05:50):
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Speaker 2 (02:05:59):
I think I said Sam Bradford.

Speaker 1 (02:06:00):
I have no idea what that name would have come
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Speaker 2 (02:06:15):
Big show lined up? John, Uh, what we got?

Speaker 10 (02:06:18):
Steven Holder and Matt Surface former Hoosier good at join
us with Iu.

Speaker 2 (02:06:23):
I went to the Hyper today and played a little
hoop at noon? Is you really? I did? I did?

Speaker 10 (02:06:27):
And it was very hyper s because, uh, it took
me forever to park, and then I had to pay
like ten dollars to stay there for like fifty minutes.

Speaker 1 (02:06:35):
I als got to kick out of the Hyper because
you'd have five guys that like all played together at
you know, Ellwood High School out there, seven screens running.

Speaker 10 (02:06:41):
A motion offense, playing pickup ball, and yeah, the world
the tickets left over parking tickets.

Speaker 2 (02:06:46):
I bet if they checked into my name, I bet
I have a ton.

Speaker 1 (02:06:48):
Jay Edwards had like eight hundred bucks of them in
one semester, right, including parking and the president.

Speaker 10 (02:06:53):
Of the university spot for prepoint range, no doubt.

Speaker 1 (02:06:57):
Right, all right, John's up next, talking cold. Obviously, I you,
and again Purdue ranked number one in college basketball.

Speaker 2 (02:07:04):
We will be back with you at noon tomorrow, and
I thank you for listening to the Query Company.

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