Tributes to Hall of Famer Ryne Sandberg, Colts Practice Thoughts and Updates, Fever Win & Upcoming Game - Jonathan Taylor, Stephanie White, Stephen Holder Join! - Query & Company

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's Querry in company.

Speaker 2 (00:02):
I'm going to be keeping you company for the next
few hours.

Speaker 3 (00:04):
You are not going to believe the company, this company.

Speaker 1 (00:06):
You're going to bankrupt your mama's company. At least I
have the radio to keep me company.

Speaker 3 (00:10):
On ninety three five and one oh seven five the fan.
Oh good, That's how it sounded on WG and Radio

(00:56):
Harry Carey, of course, on the call, Ryan Samberg not
one but two home runs and the epic what is
known as the Ryan Samberg Game June twenty third of
nineteen eighty four, as the Cubs, both of them off
of Hall of Famer Bruce Souiter overcame deficits not once
but twice to then win in extra innings in a

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magical season for the Cubs where they would win their
division and go on to the NLCS to lose to
the San Diego Padres. Ryan Samberg yesterday passing away that
announcement from the Chicago Cubs at the age of sixty five,
I realized much has been said about Samberg since then.
Many of you have shared sentiments as well, and I

(01:40):
certainly understand that people would tune into a radio show
in Indianapolis, Indiana in July during Colts camp, on a
day when one Colts presumed starter or at least one
battling for position left the field with injury, on a
day when another superstar got into a bit of a

(02:00):
scuffle with another superstar on the field, and on a
day when one of their players just got a new
one hundred million dollar deal. It would certainly be a
fair question to ask why a talking head doing sports
talk radio in Indianapolis will be talking about Ryan Samberg
on a day when all of those things happen. Also
on a day when the head coach of of the

(02:21):
Indiana Fever, Stephanie White, is going to join us, and
the question about Caitlin Clark's availability fair to ask those questions.
I'll begin with this Colt's camp wrapping up just about
thirty minutes ago, Jonathan Taylor is set to join us.
I think he's going to call in just about twelve
minutes from now. He is scheduled to call in. Kylon

(02:42):
Tally is filling in today for Eddie Garrison, who is
Eddie Garrison is off to see the Cincinnati Reds taking
on the Dodger. So Kylon filling in capably today. Kylon
you said about twelve fifteen or so is when we
anticipate Jonathan Taylor.

Speaker 1 (02:55):
Correct.

Speaker 4 (02:56):
Yep, that's correct. He's finished up and got.

Speaker 5 (02:58):
To join us.

Speaker 1 (02:59):
All right.

Speaker 3 (02:59):
So here's the thing that happened today. Let me read
to you what was just posted on the expost Twitter
from James Boyd, who you hear on this program each
and every morning, including this morning when he was in
with jeff Rickord and Kevin Bowen. Jeff Rickord, back from
his vacation, was in with them this morning. Colts defensive

(03:19):
tackle Grover Stewart just throw running back Jonathan Taylor to
the ground after Taylor made a short catch. Obviously j
Teke took exception and shoved Grove in the chest. Then
left guard Quentin Nelson came over and had some words
for Grover. Two second day of Pad's has been physical.
That from James Boyd and Jonathan Taylor will get his

(03:41):
thoughts and reaction on that kind of gauge his mood
in just a couple of minutes. Jalen Jones, who we
had on the program yesterday, left the field today with
what appeared to be perhaps a hamstring injury. He is
involved in that position battle along with Justin Whaley, who
we've talked a lot about. Obviously Juju Brents as well

(04:01):
in that position. So it is an area where the
Colts have some depth, and it didn't look like this
is the kind of injury that could bleed into even
the regular season, but you always keep an eye on that.
And for a guy in Jalen Jones, who I know
was very optimistic about trying to contend for a starting
position or be solidly within the rotation of lou Anorumo's defense,

(04:22):
we will see his availability for the remainder of camp today.
And then Bernard Ryman, who owes me seven percent. Bernard Ryman,
as you know, came on this program and when I
asked him about the status of entering in with the
potential free agency year in front of him, and Bernard
Ryman said, we are not on the same page and

(04:44):
we have yet to see if the Colts value the
position that I play. I'm paraphrasing, but nonetheless, Bernard Ryman
now with a four year, one hundred million dollar deal
at left tackle, that is I believe sixty two million
dollars guaranteed. And for an area where I have been critical,
there are a lot of areas where I've been critical

(05:05):
of Chris Ballard, but one area where I will give
Chris Ballard his flowers here and I will give him credit.
I think at the specialty positions there have been areas
where Chris Ballard has aired, but in the trenches he
has done well because Bordelini at the center position, Bernard Ryman,

(05:27):
who had short arms when he came out of the draft.
Somehow I guess they got long enough to play in
the NFL. But that didn't seem to be an issue
for Chris Ballard. And Bernard Ryman was thrown into the
fire at left tackle and given the time to grow,
and he has and he looks like he's going to
be a pillar piece. So we'll talk more about that
over the course of the show. But that is an
area where you got to give the Colts credit. It

(05:47):
looks like they have found some players here to give
them some stability long term at the offensive line and
to shore up that offensive line. But back to Ryan Sandberg,
you know, in this market, it is obviously not typical
that we would lead with or talk about Major League Baseball.

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And I know that baseball, you know, America's pastime, and
baseball is a sport certainly from a participation standpoint that
is massive. You know, the there is no denying the
popularity the frequency of travel baseball, youth baseball, and that
has probably taken over from Little league baseball and the

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one thing about little league baseball. And I know that
this is me overthinking it, perhaps, but I think now,
you know, baseball is still the American pastime, but it's
almost more so the American pastime from a participation standpoint
as opposed to a spectating standpoint, because young kids now

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play travel ball and you know, through the course of
the summer really year round, and because they are spending
so much time on the diamond, they not only are
playing more and working on their game more and going
to batting cages and et cetera more, but they are
focused on their game and focused less on watching the
major league game. And in addition to that, the other

(07:13):
thing that and I think that we're starting to see
this with the passing of Dave Parker, with the passing
of Ryan Samberg, with the induction into the Hall of
Fame of Ichi Row. And you are seeing players now
twenty five years from now, when Mike Trout or shoe

(07:37):
Otani are going into the Hall of Fame. I don't
know that you will have as many people that are
of this the slightly younger age range that are talking
about the childhood memories of seeing those players play. And
I think there are two things that factor into that.
Number one is what I just mentioned, the watching of

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baseball on Saturday as a host to the participation, and
then the other one being baseball cards. Because if you
played little league baseball in the seventies, eighties into the
early nineties in this country, your concession stand sold Big
League two snow cones, astropops and a packet of tops cards.
And you got those cards and you opened them and

(08:20):
you looked for the All Star card and you put
them in sleeves, and that's how you kind of got
to know your favorite players. And Ryan Sandberg was one
of America's favorite players. And the thing about him to
me that was so fascinating. This is a guy that
never played in a World Series. This is a guy

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that played on a franchise that at the time that
he was playing there was still known for being the
lovable losers, and he helped them break through that stereotype
and that label because of that eighty four season that
was magical. It was so magical that I can still
tell you. I could probably tell you the batting lineup.

(09:03):
Bobby Denier first, Ryan Samberg second, Keith More third, Leon
Durham fourth, fifth, I think was Gary Matthews, sixth, Jody
Davis seventh. Well, Ron Say would have been in there,
so say it would have been fifth, So everybody slide
everybody down. Jody Davis actually I think batted either seventh

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or eighth, Larry Boa seventh or eighth, and then Rick
Zucklipper whoever was pitching ninth that team. It was a
different era because WGN and WTBS or TBS superstation made
the Chicago Cubs and the Atlanta Braves America's teams because

(09:45):
of the fact that you didn't have the regional networks.
I mean, if you lived in Indianapolis, you got Reds
games on probably Channel four or one of the different
channels here, but you didn't have the specified specialty networks
for every single team and every single market, which also,
to an extent, increased the nature of the giant of

(10:08):
the baseball star because Mickey Mantle and Willie Mays and
before them, you know, Joe DiMaggio and Babe Ruth. They
were icons because people listened to them on the radio
and had to picture in their mind what they were,
and then it was so special to finally see them.

Speaker 1 (10:31):
You know.

Speaker 3 (10:31):
I was in Liverpool, England, just over a week ago
and I went to and I saw Strawberry Fields where
John Lennon. It's just a park, just a park in
Liverpool where John Lennon played as a kid. And I
saw Penny Lane, which is just a street. It's got
a barber shop and a nurse's station and a firehouse.
It's like Broad upol Avenue, but it's where John Lennon

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and Paul McCartney both went up and down as kids.
And then they wrote songs about it. And when you
heard those songs forever, it created this imagery in your mind,
and then to actually see it in person was like wow,
it was Penny Lane is just a street, but it's
a street that was to me magnified by the vision

(11:13):
and the imagery and the dream of what I had
always thought of it to be because I had heard
about it so much on radio and baseball was a
great extent that and Ryan Samberg was part of that
Cubs team that was part of and yes we're talking
two or three decades since it was a strictly radio sport,
but that game that Ryan Samberg had on June twenty

(11:37):
third of nineteen eighty four, the Cubs who had been
a doormat forever, who were fifteen years removed from their
collapse in sixty nine when the Mazon Mets took over
the division, and here the Cubs surging, and are they
a pretender or a contender? And they're going up against
the Cardinals, their arch rival within the division, and they're
doing it on the NBC Game of the Week, which

(11:57):
is why Harry Carey was doing it on radio because
W and television was not covering it because it was
the NBC Game of the Week. Because back then, you
got a game each week, and you watched that game,
and it created heroes and it created larger than life
figures because you only saw them once, but you'd heard
about him and you'd seen them on your baseball cards.

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And Ryan sabrig was a young player. He was at
that time either twenty four or twenty five years old,
and in his career he hit two hundred and eighty
two home runs in his career two hundred and eighty
two home runs. But he was a classic baseball player.
His batting stance looked almost identical to the generic batting

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stance on top of the participation trophy you got for
Little league when you were in first grade. His fielding
stance was not one of diving after loose balls like
an Assie Smith, or falling backwards over fly balls like
a Willie Mays, but steady and stable. And he was
a good looking guy and an American looking guy. But

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the thing about Ryan Samberg and that game that is
notable to me is this, and that is the fact
that he hit two hundred and eighty two home runs
in his career. But in that game, in the first
time that he was on really the national stage with
America peering in to see this team that they'd heard

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about going up against the Cardinals and finding out if
they were pretenders or contenders, he hit not one but
two home runs. And there are very few players in
baseball history, and very few moments in baseball history that
you think about when you think about Dave Parker's cannon
throw from right field, when you think about Willie May's

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basket catch, when you think about Don Larson's perfect game,
when you think about Joe Carter's walk off home run,
when you think about Kirk Gibson's home run, when you
think about all of those moments, all of them were
in the postseason. There are very few players in baseball
history that had signature moments and regular season games named
after them. But you talk to anybody that was around

(14:11):
in June of nineteen eighty four and cognitively watching baseball
at that time, they remember the Ryan Samberg game. And
yet he did that game, and he made that game
named after him because he did something that was an
anomaly for him. He was not a power hitter, but
when his team needed it, he hit for power, not once,
but twice with America watching. And there's just something about

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great players where oftentimes, in the most tense moments, players
shy away from that spotlight. But then there are spotlight
moments where the spotlight itself runs towards certain players, and
it's no coincidence that those players find themselves in that

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moment and then become that moment. And Ryan Samberg, for
so many people, was the personification of class, of dignity,
of the love of baseball, and just of the all
American guy that kind of represented all of us in
pursuing a dream from Spokane, Washington, North Central High School

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of Spokane, by the way, and then did it in
a classic ballpark for a classic team and did so
with class through and through. And I know he is
mourned by Cubs fans in Central Indiana, but baseball fans
in general. And it is not often that baseball fans
or baseball players, I should say, and get eulogized by

(15:37):
fans in a non baseball city on a show where
there was a skirmish at that team's NFL camp. But
that's what Ryan Sandberg was. Now, as for Colts camp itself, Kylon,
lets me know that Jonathan Taylor is calling it now,
so let's get right to it. He is in his
sixth year as the running back of the Indianapolis Colts.

(15:57):
It is an interesting year because it is one that
we have not talked a lot about Jonathan Taylor. That's good.
He is coming off his second Pro Bowl appearance. And
I guess we'll get to the little skirmish here in
just a little bit. But let's welcome ame in Jonathan
Taylor to the program here on querying company. Jonathan is
a pleasure. How are you?

Speaker 1 (16:14):
I'm doing well today? How about to show you know what?

Speaker 3 (16:16):
I can't complain. But I'm not the one that's out
there having a run around in ridiculous heat, right, I mean,
like this is this is no joke. This is not Wisconsin.
I'm sure you're aware of that. But let's get right
to this. For you personally, camp has always been kind
of an interesting ride because there have been years where
you know, we didn't know if Jonathan Taylor is going
to be on the field, and then there have been
years and I understand it. I mean, you know, contractual things, injuries,

(16:39):
et cetera.

Speaker 1 (16:40):
What is it?

Speaker 3 (16:41):
You know, what is the mindset for you now? Being
able to just clean slate, let's go, good to go,
and just how you feel, both physically and mentally.

Speaker 6 (16:49):
It's great to actually be able to come out here
and get better, especially with athletes for so schedule and
so regimented in our and our scheduled that when you
have a timeline and let's say you had somebody to
take care of in the off season to get healthy,
and then at that point in time, you're not ready
because we know the body is weird and an act different.
So you get a little frustrated because you know you

(17:10):
put so much work in and yet still you weren't
able to be healthy to be on the field. So
finally being able to have another camp where you can
just come out focus on your craft, I think it's
just that much better in order to build that chemistry
with the guys up front, but then also just preparing
for the season, to have everything and the playbook under
your belt and all the little nuances that we might
have picked up throughout the off season, having that lockdown

(17:31):
heading into the season.

Speaker 3 (17:32):
Over the course of your career, you have obviously taken
handoffs from myriad of quarterbacks as a running back. How
important is it to have stability at the quarterback position
in terms of just the overall I guess chemistry, timing.

Speaker 6 (17:49):
All of it well, number one, especially with ball handling.
You know when you just continuously are getting in handoffs
from the same quarterback, you kind of know their steps.
You know on our side zone, are they you know,
a longer step guy or they a shorter step guy.
You kind of know whenever verse and now you know
how tight they're going to be because you know everybody's different,
especially when you have quarterbacks who are taller and you know,

(18:11):
have longer legs than others, So you know, when you're
able to get those repetitive reps from this one quarterback,
it's much easier and you get much more comfortable knowing like, hey,
when they call the team, you know, okay, hey, I
have to really get to my spot because I know
the quarterback's going to be there fast, or hey, I
got a little bit of time. Quarterback may have a
little bit shorter leg so I got a little bit
of time to get there.

Speaker 3 (18:29):
Are Daniel Jones and Anthony Richardson in terms of style
or in terms of just overall nuances within them? Is
this the closest you've seen quarterback one to two in
terms of the starter or backup that you have had
in your offense since you've been here.

Speaker 6 (18:48):
They are very similar. And I don't think people realize,
like Daniel was actually really athletic. I don't know if
they realize, like you ran like twenty one almost twenty
two miles an hour before, so really being able to
have those similar schemes because I know in the past
we've kind of had two distinct different quarterbacks with different styles.
So if you know, one was up one week kind
of play, what would be different than the other. But

(19:09):
they're actually very similar, So I think that actually gives
us an edge, especially you know if we have, you know,
have to rely on both of those guys. It doesn't
shift if they came plan much either, just like in
the past. Like I said, you know, two distinct style quarterbacks,
they kind of have to switch up kind of what
you guys are gonna run.

Speaker 3 (19:25):
You know it is true now you mentioned Daniel Jones,
like twenty two miles an hour. That's your speed, right,
I mean, do you guys are you competitive about this?
Because that's that's Jonathan Taylor speed? Is it not?

Speaker 6 (19:36):
That is That's why I'm I'm like, I don't think
people realize how I've leg he actually is. And I
know people probably think he's athletic, but I want them
to realize, like, no, actually this dude's like pretty athletic,
like he can roll.

Speaker 3 (19:48):
How much of you gotten a chance to you know,
I know you obviously know Anthony Richards and Jonathan Taylor
our guest. How much you have you gotten a chance
to work with and know away from field?

Speaker 6 (19:58):
Daniel Jones, I've been able to do a lot, and
I just think that it's going to take some time, know,
to continue to build. Like you mentioned, each year, it
seemed like, you know, it's been you know, a different
guy back there. So he's another face that I have
to not even figure out, just get reps to learn,
because every guy has their own talent and every guy
is different. So it's just going to continue. We're only

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in the second week of camp, so we're going to
continue to build that relationship and continue to build those
reps together so that when Sunday comes around, whoever's back there,
that we're able to heal all cylinders.

Speaker 3 (20:29):
This is the most and Jonathan Taylor, you know I've
had you on the show before this, This to me
feels like the most energetic and optimistic Jonathan Taylor I've
heard in a while. Am I reading too much into that?

Speaker 6 (20:42):
I like to think that I'm always like this, But
I'm glad that you feel as does and I'm bringing
all energy to the show, which is amazing. Hopefully the
Raiders are big time.

Speaker 1 (20:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (20:50):
We need we need all the help we can get
in that regard, Jonathan, So thank you. Do you want
to stick around till three. We can use you till three.
Do you want to stick around so.

Speaker 6 (20:57):
You might have to talk to coach psych and we
got meeting.

Speaker 1 (21:00):
We got meetings.

Speaker 3 (21:01):
Now. I want to know this. I want to know
if in one of those meetings you've got to play kumbayak,
because let me read you what James Boyd, who does
our morning show, had posted on the expost Twitter earlier.
Just a little bit ago, Colts defensive tackle Grover Stewart
just through Jonathan Taylor to the ground after Taylor made
a short catch. J t took exception and shoved Grove
in the chest. Lying left guard Quentin Nelson came over

(21:23):
and had some words for Grover Stewart as well, and
he says, second day of pads has been physical, all right,
your recollection of it.

Speaker 6 (21:31):
Definitely Grove got into the moment game time. He's flying around.
He'd let me know, he said, listen, man, I thought
it was game time, rightfully. So that's the type of
edge that we need on the field. I'm sure you
guys have seen the film of Grover's bullying guies on
the offensive line, so seg like you mentioned second day
of PAD, he probably got into God to that mode
a little bit too much, but that's what we need.

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That's the type of edge that we need in order
to go where we want to.

Speaker 1 (21:54):
Go this year.

Speaker 3 (21:55):
Somebody asked me this question, Jonathan Taylor, so I'll ask
it to you. I think it's a good one, and
that is, if there are moments where someone is lagging,
where somebody is just going through the motions as opposed
to the intensity that is necessary, who is the player
in your locker room, on your roster that is the
one that just automatically is the leader that will not

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be afraid to get in a guy's grill and say
you got to be a professional here, let's pick it up.
That guy for this roster is who.

Speaker 6 (22:23):
Oh, definitely, definitely Quintin Nelson is always especially what the
guys off into the line. You guys know the trajectory
that Quinton Nelson is on not only on the field,
but off of the field as well. And he's a
guy who does everything the right way. He's he's a
true pros pro. And if guys seem to be not
holding up to the standard here in the building, he's
definitely wanted to say, listen, that's not the standard. And

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we're always fully behindq because at the end of the day,
you want someone who you know, day in and day out,
is given everything he has to this organization, and that's
someone you want to be like. You want to be
like Quentin Nelson, you want to be like the bisial side,
you want to be like a the Ford Buckner. So
that's definitely having those two guys as model professionals. That's
what a lot of guys are striving to be.

Speaker 3 (23:07):
He strikes me, Quentin Nelson is a guy that doesn't
speak a lot. So is he one of those that
when he does, you know it means business or are
we just kind of hidden from the real gregarious nature
of Quentin Nelson.

Speaker 1 (23:17):
No.

Speaker 6 (23:18):
Quinton definitely definitely won't say a whole lot, but like
you mentioned, when he speaks powerful.

Speaker 3 (23:24):
Jonathan Taylor, our guest, All right, let's get to this
before we let you get back into meetings, Jonathan, in
terms of you personally, where you are right now, in
terms of just kind of getting the feel again for
the speed of the season, and I guess if you will,
what things do you still feel like you need to
work on or you need to perfect before we get

(23:46):
into week one.

Speaker 6 (23:48):
Definitely being efficient. There's never a time where even if
things break down with the blocking scheme up front, can
you get back to the line of scrimmage. Can you
turn a no gain or a negative gain into a
one to two yard game is at the end of
the day, continuing to move the sticks forward, continuing to
be able to move the change is something that a
great running back is able to do it that helps

(24:09):
the offense. That helps the offense, especially when you get
towards third down. So it's not third and eleven, third
and ten. Now at the worst, you may be working
with third and seven or third and six. So I
will say being able to work on that is definitely
something that I still want to make sure that I'm
pushing forward the start of this season.

Speaker 3 (24:25):
By the way, November fifteenth, Wisconsin at Indiana, Kurtz Signetti,
they're going to do it again? Is Indiana going to
stun Wisconsin here?

Speaker 1 (24:32):
No?

Speaker 6 (24:32):
No, no, no, no, no, no not at all, not
at all. Listen, Wisconsin, although we had to kind of
get our feet underneath us, that's all. That's nice and cool.
But now it's time for Wisconsin. They get back to
Wisconsin football. And I'm really looking forward to those guys
taking that next step forward this year.

Speaker 3 (24:48):
Jonathan. It is always a pleasure, man. I appreciate the optimism,
the energy, the good vibes, the sunshine, all of it.
And obviously we don't need any more heat out at
Colts Camp. But mind your p's and q's with those
guys that are flying around making plays. But certainly look
forward to having you back on the program. And I
appreciate the time today well to let you get back
into your position meetings here.

Speaker 6 (25:08):
Thank you very much, man, I appreciate you.

Speaker 3 (25:11):
Hi, Jonathan Taylor joining us on the program again. Big
show lined up for you today. Stephanie White going to
join as Stephen Holder as well as we roll along
here on a Tuesday, quarrying company on the fan. How
about this for serendipitous. Kylon Talley not even realizing coming
off of the comments from Jonathan Taylor the Badger that

(25:32):
this is the song that has played in Camp Randall
Stadium at the University of Wisconsin starting every fourth quarter,
they all jump around for now they mute out the
one part where he sings inappropriately about violence in this song,
but nonetheless that is the Wisconsin Badger song. I've always
thought it'd be cool to go to Camp Randall strictly

(25:53):
for that moment of everybody jumping around to start quarter
number four. Oftentimes you see the opposing team even getting involved.
You just heard the radio call from Nick Yeoman from
the end of the brickyard four hundred and when it
comes to the quarterback competition, I thought of a racing
I finally, for the first time thought of it. It

(26:14):
was another one of my three twenty eight in the
morning brain droppings, a racing analogy as it comes and
relates to the quarterback competition for the Colts, and I'm
going to repeat daily daily. I'm going to repeat what
I have said since the beginning of camp, and that

(26:35):
is that if Daniel Jones is the starting quarterback for
the Colts in week one, it probably is going to
be far less about Daniel Jones being the starter, not
because he won the job, but because he just didn't
lose it. Because I think with everything that you look

(26:59):
at in involved with Anthony Richardson, they need Anthony Richardson
to be that guy Richardson today. And I take this
with a huge, huge I'm warning everybody right now, please
make sure you're checking your blood pressure because I'm about
to give you a huge grain of salt. Okay, and

(27:20):
that's sodia. It might be bad for you, but with
a grain of salt, I offer to you this. This
from a friend of the station, Jake Arthur. Anthony Richardson
has had another excellent day today at camp. Earlier today,
Camp wrapped up just about an hour ago nine of
eleven during eleven on elevens with touchdowns to Michael Pittman junior,

(27:41):
Moiley Cox, and Josh Downs. I go back to what
JJ Watt said in the form of you just don't
know what it is that maybe you know they're working
on what it may be. I mean, for all you know,
it may be that lou Anarumo was like, you know what,
I really want to test out this undrafted free agent

(28:01):
corner that probably is not going to make the squad,
but I want to see how he fares against you know,
a Michael Pittman junior and a slant and so we're
going to put him in there in a nickel spot whatever.
You know, you never know what could lead to those situations.
But you'd rather see that than not see that. But
I got to think it about just the brickyard and

(28:23):
then racing in general and the quarterback competition. And I
thought about Anthony Richardson and Gardner Minshew or Matt Ryan
and Sam Ellinger or Andrew Luck and Jacoby Brissett. And

(28:46):
you heard Jonathan Taylor talk about it with the athleticism
of Daniel Jones, the wheels of Daniel Jones, the legs
of Daniel Jones. And the more that I thought about it,
I thought about this and I could use it in
an old school Indy five hundred analogy. Maybe to put
it in more recent terms, I'll go with, say, like

(29:07):
the twenty four hour Lama. If you've seen the F
one movie with Brad Pitt, it starts out with showing
him in an IMSA race where he goes in as
a relief driver. Okay, when you have drivers that are
driving the same race car and you're making a quick
change during a pit stop and bringing them in, Ideally
what you want is drivers that drive a similar car

(29:31):
to one another, because it would make no sense at
all to have somebody go out and run, you know,
four hour stent in an endurance race and then have
him come in and be replaced by a guy who
if one guy likes the car to be really tight
in the corners, one guy likes the car to be,

(29:52):
you know, to have like a maybe a more free style,
like some guys like a car that, you know, you
kind of feel like you're sliding all over the place
because it gives you more freedom to put the car
where you need to go, you know whatever. If one
guy prefers one style and setup of the car from
an engineering standpoint, it would be foolish to then put
another driver in there that likes the car in a

(30:14):
completely different format, because you don't have time to make
the adjustment to it. And it feels like this is
the first time in a quarterback competition for the Colts
that you have two quarterbacks that drive the same car,
and so stylistically you are not having to alter a

(30:36):
lot whether you're going with Daniel Jones or Anthony Richardson,
and that could be advantage in the course of a game.
For example, if Richardson is your starter and either he
gets dinged up and leaves the game, or he taps
his helmet and leaves the game. Let's hope that never
happens again. But either way, if that were to be

(30:56):
the case, and you have an in game change or
an in game sub institution. You know a lot of
times you see a guy that comes in and he
spells for one drive, and things are really vanilla because
your game plan, the plays that you've scripted, whatever it
might be, are designed for quarterback A. Then quarterback B
comes in and you're like, well, wait a minute, we
got to run a whole different package here with these

(31:19):
two quarterbacks. I think both of them are guys that
need to get in rhythm with short intermediary passes. Both
of them are guys that can potentially hit like a
long ball, a deep pass behind the defense to it
Alec Pierce, let's say, or you know, an Ady Mitchell

(31:40):
or whoever it might be, and they have that potential,
but what you need before that is them hitting the layups.
And both of them are guys that kentuck and run
and have good legs. You hear Jonathan Taylor talking about
with Daniel Jones, and we certainly know that's the case
with Richardson and his physicality and his speed. So they
bring the same tools to the party. They bring the

(32:00):
same threat offensively and the same scheme that you need
to showcase them. So That's the one positive I think
is in the fact that whichever guy you go with,
if you've got to spell now the last, you don't
want to do this. There is nothing in the world
I think that is ever a worse idea than the
whole quarterback by committee. Somebody plays four plays, comes out

(32:22):
back in. I mean, that never works. It never works.
Every every coach thinks he can make that change, be
that guy. And what do we always say. I mean,
we always say the same thing, and that is that
if you have two quarterbacks you got none, you don't
want to do it over the course of it of
going back and forth and you know, oscillating back and forth.

(32:47):
That that never works. Right, But if you need to
go in and you're in a mid drive and somebody,
you know, even if it's an equipment malfunction, somebody's got
a shoulder pad of posse, whatever, I just think it
helps to have two guys that are that play the
same style, that do the same thing. And look, I've

(33:12):
I mean, there's nothing greater and I know I'm going
on the way back here, but there was nothing greater
than when Ron Meyer decided they were going to run
the wishbone. I mean, that's what I'm talking about, where
if you have no quarter if you have three quarterbacks,
you got none. So the Colts go out they are
I can't remember if I think it was Chris Chandler
was the quarterback, soho I thought it was a good player.

(33:34):
And then Ron Meyer decides because Jim Errsay and Ron
Meyer had been together at SMU and they saw the
success of the Wishbone and they went out and they
had you know, that team had Craig James and had
Eric Dickerson. So Jim Mersay goes out makes the trade
for Eric Dickerson. And then one day he and Ron
Meyer sitting around and Ron Meyer says, you know, we
should run the wishbone again. All right, let's do it.
You know we got Albert Bentley, we got Eric Dickerson.

(33:56):
You know we got a Bentley in the roles in
the same backfield. So let's go out and let's get
ourselves a wishbone quarterback. So they go they call Ricky Turner,
and Ricky Turner had run the wishbone at Washington State
and he's operating a cement truck in like Spokane, Washington,
and literally he is literally like when they call the

(34:16):
manager in Major League and Louz says.

Speaker 1 (34:20):
Can I get back to you.

Speaker 3 (34:21):
I got a guy in the other line about some
white walls, and then he decides to be the manager. Literally,
they call Ricky Turner and he's like, let me get
back to you. I gotta go ahead. I've got a
huge thing of cementing here. I've got a poor at
a construction site, and I'll call you back in twenty
and see if you want me to fly and be
an NFL quarterback. But they brought him, and so then
you had You're gonna run the wishbone on some plays.

(34:41):
You're gonna run like almost like a West Coast offense
on some plays. I mean, what are we doing? What
are we doing? So I like the feel of knowing
that you got two guys doing the same thing. It's
advantageous and you get you can you could over to

(35:02):
go back to a racing line. The best line I've
ever heard from an athlete to me. During an interview,
I asked one of the most brilliant in depth questions
of all time to Juan Montoya and wi Montoya said, see,
you're doing what too many race car drivers do. I
go what's that, And he goes, don't overthink it. I
get a car, I go fast, don't overthink it. Get

(35:26):
in the car, I turn left, I go fast. I
find a line. Too many guys overthink it, and I
think sometimes at the quarterback position you overthink it. In
the Colts case, I don't think this is a year
they're going to overthink it. They got two guys that
play similar They got two guys that do a similar
style and bring a similar skill set and have similar

(35:46):
attributes and similar drawbacks, and one of which is still
one of which is trying to prove that the team
that drafted him made the right pick, and the other
of which is trying to prove that the team that
drafted him high and gave up gave up too early.

(36:07):
And Daniel Jones has to look at Anthony Richardson and say,
that's the situation I was in New York, and I
know what happened there. I saw how that story ended,
And he doesn't want to see that story in that
way for Anthony Richardson. But Daniel Jones also knows that
part of Daniel Jones' redemption tour is perhaps writing that

(36:30):
epitaph on the Indianapolis portion of Anthony Richardson's time, and yes,
Richardson looked good, and yes we've been there before, and
yes we promised ourselves we wouldn't read too much into it,
don't overthink it, right, But I'd rather talk about that
than talk about the opposite of that. There is one
player today again grain of salt, admittedly, but get your

(36:54):
popcorn because I got more salt for you. Because there
is another guy that showed out today. There's a guy
that finally arrived. There's a guy today that found the
map to Westfield and arrived and it was like, here
we go, and I'll tell you who that is next.
So I would like to point out that we have

(37:15):
had on this show since camp began the following Okay,
Jonathan Taylor earlier, great conversation. Matter of fact, he called
in right off the top of the show very shortly thereafter.
So in case you missed that, may because we just
had him for a couple of minutes, but I thought
it was really good stuff. May replay that before the

(37:37):
end of the program. Don't typically do that, but I
think in that case because it was pretty good and
I thought he had some pretty good insight not only
about the quarterback position just but about leadership in general
with the Colts. But we have had on since the
beginning of camp. We had Bernard Ryman, We've had Cam Binden,
who was great, we had Jalen Jones, and we had

(37:59):
Alec Pierce. Okay, now Alec Pierce has a blister on
his foot, but he is back on the practice field.
He was back out there today, but he did miss
time yesterday with that blister, Okay, So I don't think
you can call that any sort of a show, Jenks.
Jalen Jones today did leave the field with what appeared

(38:22):
to be a hamstring injury, and we certainly hope that
it is nothing more than that for both himself and
the depth at that corner position. But it didn't look
like it was the kind of thing that would. But
you never know. You never know. So I'm not a doctor.
It's dangerous to me to say, but you know, you
look at those two and you think, yesh. But then

(38:43):
Bernard Ryman, listen, it's not my place to come on
from twelve to three on this radio station and spout
out about my influence and power. That's been done before,
So you know, I don't necessarily need to do that, right,
People don't want to hear that. But but I think

(39:08):
Bernard Ryman I should get seven percent typical agent Draws said,
you know what, I take that back. I'm not his agent,
I'm not as representative, but I helped. So three and
a half percent half an agent fee not bad, right
because Bernard Ryman, and I think he knew exactly what
he was doing. Bernard Ryman came on this show and

(39:31):
a couple of questions in I said, hey, you know what,
you're a free agent, you are enterant year, in the
last year of your contract. You're in a contract negotiation.
What's the mindset? Where do things stand? And he said, well,
we're not on the same page. I'm paraphrasing, and I

(39:51):
think he might have even said like we're a ways
away or we're a ways off. And when he said that,
I thought to myself, well, there are one of two
ways to look look at that one is and we've
seen it with Ryan Kelly, we saw it with the
Pacers with Miles Turner, where they get to a situation
where they then signed for. In Miles Turner's case, I

(40:14):
think it was a two year extension. Which then prohibited
them from being able to renegotiate with him until that
deal was up to extend him. And obviously we know
what happened there, but we have seen times where it's
not unprecedented with any team where you see them say, hey,
they reached a point where they're not going to do
anything now during the season. They will wait until season's

(40:34):
end and then they'll come back to the negotiating table.
So when Bernard Rayman had said we're not on the
same page, my instinctive reaction was, does he mean they're
not on the same page in terms of the urgency
of getting a deal done, or they're not on the
same page in terms of how much he's worth. And

(40:55):
so when I pushed him for the follow up on that,
he did not hesitate to say, no, I know my worth,
but the numbers are not on the same page. And
so that kind of grew legs right that Nationally speaking,
it was, you know, Bernard Ryman and the Colts are
way off, and you saw and I'm sure Chris Ballard

(41:17):
the first thing he does when he gets home at
night his looks at social media to determine what he
needs to do. But he you saw that there was
reaction of people like, you cannot do this, don't be cheap,
don't sell this short, don't screw this up. You got
to resign Bernard Ryman and lo and behold what happens

(41:39):
within a week of Bernard Ryman coming on this show,
and we now know four year, one hundred million, sixty
two million of which is guaranteed, sixty two million of
which is guaranteed. Can you imagine that, Kylon, Let's figure
this out. Okay, he's got a guaranteed sixty two million

(42:01):
over the next four years. Okay, So let's just say,
for the sake of argument, for the sake of argument,
that Bernard Rayman just says, you know what, I signed
the deal. I'm good guaranteed. Now we're gonna take out taxes.
What would the what's the tax at that level? What
are we looking at? Thirty two percent tax something like that.

(42:22):
I'm totally guestimating. I'm probably way up based the kids
across the hall would know and probably do three hours
a day talking about the injustice of it. But let
me see here, sixty two million. I'm just gonna go
with let's say it's I'm gonna I'll say he's giving
thirty five percent in tax. Okay, so forty point three

(42:44):
million over the next four years, so ten million per
year guaranteed after taxes. Right now, the beauty of that is,
can you imagine assuming that he gets every two week
direct deposit? Can you imagine that, like you just every
two weeks after taxes, right, every two weeks after taxes,

(43:07):
you check your checking account and you're like, you know what,
I screwed this up?

Speaker 1 (43:14):
Here?

Speaker 3 (43:15):
Can you look up what ten million divided by twenty
six would be Kyland? Because that means that every after
taxes he's looking at his direct deposit and it's like
another three hundred and eighty five grand. You know what?
I realize guys that we're supposed to go bowling this

(43:36):
weekend and then go to a movie. But if you
don't mind, can we wait until Tuesday? Because I don't
get paid till Friday, and I want, you know, and
well what do you get?

Speaker 1 (43:44):
Well?

Speaker 3 (43:45):
Yeah, okay, yep, yep, twelve twenty am. I checked it
on the second and yeah, I just got my three
hundred and eighty four thousand, six hundred and fifteen dollars
direct deposit after tax. Now does that does he have
a four oh one k that he pushes into Also
does he put ten percent in into the Colts match
that as well? I mean, good for Bernard Ryman. But

(44:09):
the guy that so we talked about all of that
right then, the guy that's showing out now is apparently
eighty Mitchell. So Bernard Ryman got paid. So no jinks
on this radio show because we influenced that. I get
three and a half percent. Jalen Jones. I don't think,
hopefully that's not a serious injury. And we have not
yet had on Ady Mitchell. But Ady Mitchell today apparently

(44:31):
caught seven straight passes from Daniel Jones and finally, finally,
eighty Mitchell found his way to Westfield. This year, you
remember Andre Risen Andre Risen, prolific wide receiver, first round
pick Colts nineteen eighty eight, late on the first day

(44:53):
to Anderson because he had to stop at the truck
stop on I sixty nine and like what's now ninety
sixth Street and ask somebody where Anderson is because he
was lost. Drove from East Lansing, had to turn around
go back to Anderson. Arrived a little late, Ady Mitchell.
We've been awaiting the arrival and it looks like today
and again you don't know what's being worked on, but

(45:14):
it beats the alternative that Ady Mitchell today finally arrived
seven for seven and in other words, seven balls thrown
his way, seven completed passes, according to people that were
out at Colts Camp. And that's what you want to see.
You want to see Ady Mitchell because you know Pittman,
you know Downs, you know Pierce. They've got to get

(45:37):
that fourth receiver and Adi Mitchell is the guy they've
been counting on for it to be, and at least
for one day it was. But one day camp does
not a season mat We have concert tickets to give
away over the course of today, three Dog Night among those,
Dropkick Murphy's among those. We will do so later on

(45:59):
in the program. And by the way, reminder, August seventh
is the Fan Golf Outing going to take place at
the Legends Golf Club. Your chance to come hang out.
All the benefit Franciscan Health Foundation and we look forward
to it, hope to see you there. There is still
the opportunity to sign up for it at one oh
seven to five the fan dot Com not sure if
Kevin Bowen's gonna give golf lessons or not, but he's

(46:20):
the scratch golfer of the group. I think John's okay.

Speaker 7 (46:23):
J and V.

Speaker 3 (46:23):
I think he's a decent golfer. I'm terrible Mark Dyton.
I don't know if Dyton's a golfer or not, but
he strikes me as a kind of guy that would
struggle because I think he has little hands. He's kind
of like Kenny Pickett. Eddie the same way. Truthfully, Eddie
the same way. Eddie's probably in trouble because he's a
baseball player, so he's got a baseball swing not good.
Let me get you caught up to speed on what's

(46:45):
happening in terms of the injury report today out at
Colts Camp. This from Mike chapell Ford of The Show.
Shane Steiken did confirm that Jalen Jones suffered a hamstring
injury during practice. Did leave the practice field earlier today,
shortly after things got underway in Westfield. But along with

(47:06):
Jalen Jones, there were other injuries. Juju Brents out with
a hamstring, Michael Pittman Junior did not finish practice because
of a groin injury. David Long with a groin injury,
solving a med with a back injury, and Cam mcgroen
with a quad injury. But obviously the notables there would

(47:29):
be Michael Pittman junior with a groin and then when
you look at Jalen Jones and Juju Brents, that's a
unique situation because and again Justin Whalley, the rookie out
of Minnesota who has really impressed in the way that

(47:49):
he has played in this camp, you have to look
now at those that he is trying to move in
front of or stay in front of, because at this
point he's taking most of the starter reps of that
corner position. But Jalen Jones and Juju Brent's on that
side of the two guys that are, you know, battling
as well. And both of those guys go down, and

(48:11):
I don't you would anticipate that's not for long, But
you don't know that. The other thing that comes into
play with this, and this to me is a little
bit of a chicken and egg discussion. I briefly talked

(48:32):
about it yesterday I believe it was might have been
two days ago with Chris Whidlock. I mentioned that we
were out of camp and Woodlock and I are sitting
there watching I think it was yesterday, and we were
talking about the fact.

Speaker 1 (48:48):
That it is and I get it.

Speaker 3 (48:49):
The NFL players, the teams are this was agreed upon
by the players association. It was agreed upon. The minimization
Is that a is that theory? Is that a word? Minimization? Minimalization?
Is that a word? Kylon? Can you look up? Is
it minimalization or is it it's minimalization?

Speaker 1 (49:10):
Right?

Speaker 4 (49:10):
I think you're adding in an el minimization minimization.

Speaker 3 (49:14):
That's what I first said, Is that right?

Speaker 1 (49:15):
Yep?

Speaker 3 (49:15):
That didn't sound right. I mean, I'm an Alisonville Elementary
School spelling be runner up in nineteen eighty four. You know,
I know most words, but we didn't get that far
in the alphabet minimization. But if you look at the
the lesson lessening of camp time and practice time one

(49:37):
hour practice a day, maybe ninety minutes, and a lot
of that is walk throughs and just you know, I mean,
yeah they do drills and yeah they put pads on
and they start hitting. But if you go back and
I'm not talking, I mean, you don't have to go
in the wayback machine here. You don't have to go
and be the two guys from the Muppets to remember

(49:59):
the time win. For example, when they would finally have
the first preseason game. What does every player say in
preseason games, every player since the beginning of time. If
you go back and you look at the Egyptian Pyramids
and you try to decipher what hiro groalyptics say, what
they say is that there were actually games being played

(50:19):
between the Cairo Comets and the Egyptian Eels, and they
were talking about how they could not wait for the
preseason game number one because they just wanted to hit
guys from another team. Because in the old days, guys
would put pads on and they were hitting twice a day.
Fights are breaking out, big brawls on the field. There

(50:42):
was a scuffle today. There was a scuffle Jonathan Taylor,
Grover Stewart, Quentin Nelson. There's a scuffle. But those days,
and I'm not talking long ago of a couple of
practices in the heat, full pads, guys collision, all of it.

(51:04):
And as I was talking to Whitlock yesterday, I'm like, man,
it just it seems like it's less and less each year.
That was agreed upon by the Collective Bargaining Agreement and
the NFLPA, I I within the CBA, I totally get it.
And that leads to the question of, and I don't
know this answer. Do we see more nagging injuries throughout

(51:30):
camp because a players are getting back to and look
professional sports. The level of activity, the level of demand
on the human body is unbelievable. It's unbelievable the what

(51:54):
they're asking their body, even for one hour. I mean,
what the cold We could sit here and papoo it
all day long about the colts gam What they do
in one hour is more than what most of us
do in the course of a two week period physically speaking.
But are they resting their body in the off season
after seventeen weeks of a collision sport, not a contact

(52:15):
a collision sport. And you hear players that are in
prime shape and the most elite athletic shape of their
lives say all the time that on Monday morning, it
takes five minutes to get out of bed, just to move,
just to get your body to move, and then get
by Wednesday or Thursday back to where you're feeling right again,

(52:37):
only to go back through it all again on a Sunday,
And so are you resting your body over the course
of the off season to the point where you are
then shocking to the system your muscles, your ligaments in
your body in the training camp, that's a possibility. Or
are we seeing injuries like this because in training camp itself,

(53:01):
they're not going through enough to shock the body and
therefore any contact whatsoever is jeopardizing them also possible? Or
is it possible that we are actually going to see
fewer in season injuries because of the slow ramp up

(53:24):
period taking place right now and the one hour practices
instead of two practices a day, in the blazing heat
testing your body, et cetera. I don't know that answer.
I tend to think that in the regular season we
see more injuries because the body is not ready for

(53:47):
the shock to the system. But that's probably just because
I'm diverting back to what I saw previously and always
thought was the norm, and therefore you naturally are like, wow,
this is nothing compared to the way it used to be.
But either way, you know, you have the camp. If

(54:08):
you're not out at Colts camp and it's cool to
go out there. I mean, everything about it's cool. I
get it. I mean you had yesterday. I saw Carli
Ersay Gordon and I saw Casey Orsay Foyight with their
kids walking around. I mean that's cool, right, And you

(54:30):
know there's a family like environment to it. You got
the Touchdowntown or whatever they call it, right behind the
practice field where kids are running around and blues out
there doing stuff and having fun with kids, and it's cool.
And the chance for you to watch the colts practicing
is super cool. But they actually, because I asked about this,

(54:52):
what does the day look like after what we see?

Speaker 1 (54:58):
They go.

Speaker 3 (55:01):
Through practice from ten until like eleven fifteen then or
eleven thirty, then from eleven thirty until like twelve thirty
or one o'clock. It's a combination of post workout treatment,
getting looked at. Making sure that you know, I mean,

(55:24):
I'm not making light of it. Alec Pierce had a
foot blister, getting that treated, the hamstring of Jalen Jones
getting that looked at, getting it treated, whether it be
massages they do, whether it be that really painful thing
they do where they scrape the muscle and try to
get like lactic acid off of it. All of those
things that treatment and then also getting something to eat

(55:45):
takes place until like one o'clock one actually I think
like one thirty, and then by two o'clock it's individual
breakdowns of film sessions by room. So the corners go
in one room, the quarterbacks go in one room, I
would assume the offensive unit in general, but they break
down into by two or two thirty sessions, group sessions

(56:11):
within the area of whatever they're playing, and then watching film.
And that's the way it goes over the course of today,
and so therefore it is not as physical and taxing
as it once was. Totally understand why I'd probably be
the same way now. The other thing that we talked

(56:32):
about off the top of the show that I want
to revisit, and it's a little bit weird on a
sports talk radio show in a non baseball city to
go to talk about Major League Baseball on a day
when you have a left tackle getting a one hundred

(56:53):
million dollar contract, on a day when you have a
corner in Jalen Jones getting a hamstring injury on a
day when you have a frame wide receiver and Michael
Pittman Jr. Having a groin injury on a day when
Anthony Richardson has his best day throwing the football on
a day when Daniel Jones also has a pretty good
day in Awakening Ady Mitchell. So there's a lot going on,

(57:14):
a lot to talk about in that regard. But Indianapolis
is a little bit different because this is by and
large a melting pot of baseball fans. It's a melting
pot of baseball fans, and you have I think the

(57:34):
vast majority in this city probably a rotation of If
I had to guess, and I'm strictly guessing, thirty percent,
if you took major League Baseball fans in Indianapolis and
broke it down, I would say thirty percent Reds fans.

(57:56):
I think at this point I'll go forty percent Cubs fans.
Then you have probably i'll say twenty percent fans of
any of the Cardinals, with the Cardinals probably being the
larger percentage here Cardinals White Sox. I'm not gonna say Tigers,

(58:23):
I know, proximity wise, but I'll say Cardinals White Sox.

Speaker 1 (58:27):
And then.

Speaker 3 (58:29):
Five percent that are some sort of other regional team.
And five percent of my math adds up there correctly,
or you know whatever. The remaining percentage is of just
big brand fan, a Yankees fan, a Red Sox fan,
a Dodgers fan. But that's kind of the breakdown of it.
But in this town, the Chicago Cubs, like is the

(58:54):
case with a lot of franchises, the Cubs hold a
special place for people in Indianapols and probably always will.
And I remember in twenty sixteen when the Cubs were
on the doorstep of the World Series, and I still
maintained my sentiment on this, and I think I'm still right.
I said that if the Cubs were to win the
World Series, Cubs fans need to be careful because it

(59:19):
will change the identity of the fan base because forever
the Cubs had been the lovable losers. The Cubs had
been the franchise that had the Billy Goat Curse and
the Black Cat cur although the Black Cat, I think
was the mess the Billy Goat curse, and you know
all that goes into the collapse in sixty nine with

(59:41):
the Mazon Mets, you know all of it. And there
were so many things and so many stories and so
many legacies about the Cubs. Never you know, the Norman
Rockwell paintings, They're never going to win a World Series,
and so to be a Cubs fan was a badge
of honor because it showed that you were a loyal

(01:00:01):
fan because your team was never going to win it,
but you still came back every single year. Red Sox
were the same way, but the Cubs more than anybody,
and that if they were to win it, just be
careful because then you just become another fan base that's
like kind of obnoxious. And I still maintain that that's
the case. It's a different brand of the fan base
now because they have won a World Series in their

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lifetime and they're having a good year this year, I realize,
But the summer of eighty four was different. It was
different for the Cubs, and it was different for baseball
in general. And yes, maybe I romanticize it in my
mind now because we do that about childhood, right, and
I know that not everybody listening to my voice was

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a child in nineteen eighty four. They may not have
been around in nineteen eighty four. They might have been
an adult by nineteen eighty four, But the summer of
eighty four was a little bit different, especially when it
comes to the Cubs. For this reason, they were fifteen
years removed from that summer when they had a sizeable
lead with a month ago over the New York Mets,

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and the Mets came roaring back and went on and
the Maze and Mets surpassed them and went on to
the World Series and won the World Series. And fifteen
years removed from that, and Harry Carey, who had been
the voice of the Saint Louis Cardinals and the Chicago
White Sox and now was the voice of the Chicago Cubs,

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and he was the television voice of the Cubs, and
he was the television voice on WGN, which was a
national network that And again, for those that weren't around,
keep in mind, back then you had in baseball, essentially
you had your favorite team. You got to watch their
games on a syndicated channel. In Indianapolis, you got Reds games,

(01:01:50):
not all of them, but you got a vast majority
of them on s WTTV four. But you didn't have
the regionalized home games where you got to see your
local home favorite team all the time. The two teams
where you saw them on the regular were the Atlanta
Braves and the Chicago Cubs. And the Cubs were different because,
especially in nineteen eighty four, still all of their games

(01:02:13):
were in the daytime. First night game nineteen eighty eight,
Philadelphia Phillies, first one got rained out. Guess who hit
a home run in that game, Ryan Samberg. Ryan Samberg
get a home run in the first night game at regularly,
it just wasn't the first official night game because it
got rained out, like in the fourth inning or whatever,
and they came back and redid it. But in nineteen
eighty four, every game's on in the daytime. And for example,

(01:02:34):
my mom my parents were a young couple, moved to
Chicago in the late sixties for my dad's steel job,
and my dad was working in the steel areas around
Chicago and the Chicago Land area. And so my mom,
as a young mother, a stay at home mother, had
the Cubs on television locally in Chicago and could watch

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it each and every day as a day game in Chicago.
And so cluster truck has arrived, Evan bringing in the
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Speaker 1 (01:03:05):
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Speaker 2 (01:03:28):
I did.

Speaker 4 (01:03:29):
I'm all about the cheesy cheese steak. I haven't tried
it from Cluster Truck, so I'm excited.

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Speaker 3 (01:03:39):
When you stay housemade, by the way, you don't mean
like two hours ago, right, you mean like I mean
everything there is made fresh to order. That's the best
thing about Cluster Truck very much.

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so we have you can use it as a side,
you know, you can order it on items so that
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Speaker 3 (01:04:00):
To order, of course, as always, right, all right, we
look forward to it. I haven't appreciate. Were you a
Cubs fan, by the way, I am not. I'm who's
your baseball team?

Speaker 9 (01:04:07):
Not a huge baseball fan, that's it.

Speaker 3 (01:04:08):
Indianapolis not a huge baseball town. That's what I'm talking about. Right,
It's hard to buy in, but I do love the Indians.
Shout out to the Indians, of course. Of course, all right,
so you got to follow the pirates of guys graduate
to that level. Ever, appreciate the lunch. Thank you as always.
Cluster truck dot com where you can buy that. Okay,
So what I'm talking about the Cubs. What I'm saying
is this, so my mom, for example, in nineteen sixty nine,

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stay at home mother would watch the Cubs on television
every day and became a huge Cubs fan. And for
that reason, even though I grew up a Reds fan,
the summer of eighty four, all of a sudden, the
lovable loser Cubs find themselves back in the mix again.
And I still can recall their batting order because I
watched because they were on on WGN and other teams

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were not. You got to see them every game. The
Cubs and the Braves, those were the two teams. And
that eighty four team denear the leadoff. Ryan Sanmberg batted second,
Keith Morland I believe, batt at third. Leon Durham was
clean up. Gary Matthews batted fifth, batting sixth would have

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been I think Ron Say, seventh, Jody Davis, eighth Larry Boa,
and the ninth the pitcher. And baseball at that time
was romanticized because you collected baseball cards. You got to
know star players, and you didn't see players on the regular.

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You heard about them. You saw the baseball cards. You
wondered who they were. You saw you knew they were
all stars. You saw him in the All Star Game.
And back then you didn't have the travel baseball to
the level that you had now, so baseball was still
a spectator versus participation sport, and kids played Little League baseball,
of course, and in the concession stand at little League

(01:05:55):
Baseball you had Big League two astro pops, snow cones,
and baseball cards, and you read your baseball cards and
you looked at your baseball cards and you knew your players.
And the Cubs were a team that finally got their opportunity,
They got their center stage. They got to play on
the national Game of the Week on NBC with Bob

(01:06:16):
Costas on the microphone, and they were playing the Cardinals,
and Ryan Samberg was a twenty five year old guy,
and the Cubs were a team that people were trying
to find out whether they were a pretender or a contender,
and the whole country was watching. And it was different
back then because the game of the week there was
just one of them, and everyone tuned in and everyone
was watching it. Everyone was captivated. And Ryan Samberg in

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his career, hit two hundred and eighty two home runs.
Two hundred and eighty two home runs, not huge, not staggering,
not a power hitter, but a reliable, everyday, timely hitter,
and a guy with a classic batting stance that looked
just like the little generic batter on the top of
your participation trophy from your first grade little league team.
He was a prolific second baseman with an extremely high

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fielding percentage that was as reliable as reliable could be,
that set records for most consecutive plays without error, and
was a timely hitter that was always there for his team.
And it's interesting to me that for a guy that
was not a home run hitter, in the first night
game at Wrigley Field, the first opportunity under the lights,

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Ryan Samberg hit a home run and in the first
opportunity on a national stage with the spotlight on the
Chicago Cubs and an era where that still mattered. A
guy that many people to that point knew about because
of their baseball card collection, of a card that they
drew at their little league in Yuma, Arizona, or their
little league in Kearny, Nebraska, or their little league in Annapolis, Maryland,

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they knew of Ryan Samberg. But now they had the
chance to watch him. And it was a Major League
Baseball Game of the Day on NBC, which meant that
Harry Carey, the television voice of the Cubs, shifted over
to the radio side of things on WGN, and Harry
Carey was on the radio call on June the twenty
third of nineteen eighty four, and the Chicago Cubs were

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playing their heated rival Saint Louis Cardinals and Bruce Suiter,
the unhittable future Hall of Famer Bruce Souter, was on
the mound to close the game and the Cubs trailed
by two. And the guy that steps into the batter's
box with a runner on is not necessarily a home
run hitter. And then this happened, Oh bet Ryan Samberg,

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and what would be known as the Ryan Samberg Game.
And it is not often that players have a game
designated to them in legacy, and very few. If you
think about Joe Carter's home run, you think about Kirk
Gibson's home run, you think about Bill Mazeroski's home run,
you think about Willie Mays's basket catch, you think about
Don Larson's perfect game. All those happened in the postseason,

(01:09:28):
but in the regular season. Sometimes great moments find the player,
and it just so happens that it's only fitting that
the great player is the one that had the moment,
because a lot of players, when the moment is there,
tense up and shy away from it. But oftentimes the
moment doesn't shy away and run towards runs towards a

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great player. And in Ryan Samberg's case, it was only
fitting that he would be the guy that not once
but twice would hit those home runs when the spotlight
was for on the Cubs and then when the lights
were first on Wrigley and Ryan Samberg, who passed away
yesterday at the age of sixty five, is absolutely the

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kind of the All American guy, a class act, a
class player, a Hall of Fame player, and somebody that
will be missed and remembered by not only Cubs fans,
but baseball fans for a very long time. Stephanie White,
just a few. But let's get to Tom real quick,
because he is a Cubs fan with his own recollection.
Hi Tom, Yeah, Hey Jake.

Speaker 5 (01:10:29):
Thanks for these reminiscences of Rhino. I have a little
different perspective in that I was, what twenty six when
it's happening on that Saturday, I was living in the
Chicago area, and I was at a friend's wedding. The
game was going on during the wedding and everybody had
their transitors out listening to their earplugs.

Speaker 1 (01:10:49):
And then during the reception, we.

Speaker 5 (01:10:51):
All set around a TV that we had and were
the reception is being illed and watched Sandberg. I remember
he didn't win the game. He tied it to twice
correct the ninth and the tenth with two run homers,
and it was just it was incredible. I want to
say two things. One, Jerry West is the logo of
the NBA. In my mind, Ryan Sandberg is the logo

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of Major League Baseball. And turning the double play, flying
over the runner coming in, it just was he was
just he was a natural player. The other thing I
want to mention that I remember about that weekend. The
next day I was at the game and had the fortune,
had the best seats I ever had, about three rows behind.
The Cups dugout beautiful day. Rick Sutcliff's fitched his first

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game as a Cup home at home that day and shitter.
I believe it was a one hitter.

Speaker 1 (01:11:46):
At the end of that week, we were bound to
the playoffs.

Speaker 6 (01:11:49):
It was exciting.

Speaker 3 (01:11:50):
Hey and Rick Suckcliffe at a home run in Game
one and eighty four. Remember in the NLCS against the Padres,
they won twelve twelve or thirteen to nothing in Game
one and tom it was a foregone conclusion they were
going to the World Series. And then they go up
to nothing and then we know what happened in San Diego.
And I've never liked Steve Garvey as a result of it,
But and I was a Reds fan, but I fell
in love with that Cubs team right. And I agree

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totally on the logo, even though it is long been
thought that it's Harmon Killerbrew in our actuality. The logo
was a compilation of different players that they used in
terms of photos. But it looks just like Ryan Samberg,
no question, and Willie McGhee, who is an unheralded, cart
beloved Cardinal player, hit for the cycle that day as well,
but upstaged by Ryan Samberg. Now one person who is

(01:12:33):
a Cardinal fan at that time. Now, the head coach
of the Fever, Stephanie White, joins us next. Now, I'm
not gonna lie, and I think this is what This
is what Eddie requested for a buffet song. And I
think this is what we had mentioned and what Fever
head coach Stephanie White had mentioned as a Jimmy Buffett
song when we talked about this last week. But this

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seems like a serenade, right, Like I feel like the
dentist is ready for me. You know, Finns might have
been good. I mean, it's all good. But she joins
us now on the guest line, the head coach of
the Indiana Fever, coach, how are you?

Speaker 6 (01:13:08):
I'm good?

Speaker 1 (01:13:09):
How are you good?

Speaker 3 (01:13:10):
Except for I feel like I'm in the dentists office
with that song.

Speaker 8 (01:13:12):
Yeah, that probably wasn't the best. You know, we couldn't
do a cheezburger in Paradise. We couldn't do Margaritaville.

Speaker 3 (01:13:21):
Finn Finns is good.

Speaker 8 (01:13:23):
The first thing that came to my mind.

Speaker 3 (01:13:24):
I don't know why that's all right, I mean it
is Tuesday instead of Monday, but that's okay, that's right. Okay,
So let's get to this, and I promise I'm going
to wait for the second question before I ask for
a health update. So I want to get to simply
this and that is just the way that you guys
are playing. I mean, obviously you've got a little bit
time here before you go to Phoenix or you know,
hosting Phoenix that's tomorrow night, by the way, Fever and

(01:13:45):
Phoenix tomorrow night. But you've won obviously too straight here
and Chicago and Vegas. What have you seen without Caitlin
Clark on the floor that so far that you do
like that, you think maybe things are rounding in to
form with obviously a major piece for you.

Speaker 8 (01:14:04):
I like how we're sharing the ball, you know, I
think we're averaging like a like a seventy to seventy
five percent assist rate, which is I think what we
have to do to be successful. So we're sharing the ball.
We're getting lots of different players involved, so production from
a lot of different areas, which is important for us
having that balance and what we're doing defensively. You know,

(01:14:24):
we we've get different looks without Caitlin on the floor
on the defensive end in terms of what our coverages
look like. We miss her length certainly, and our ability
to do some of our switches. But we've got some
speed and quickness when when Ari and Kelsey are out
there together, you know, And more than anything, it's just
it's continuing to continuing to be consistent on on that

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end of the floor. And I think we've we've we've
grown into that now that we've we've got bodies and
we've been able to have some some continuity in terms
of who is on the floor when.

Speaker 3 (01:14:57):
You think back to you know, the you NBA. Obviously
we see now and I mean, gosh, I'm watching last night,
you know, I'm watching I think it was New York
and Dallas's on and I'm watching it and Page Becker
is such a good player, and New York. It's that
to a big lead, and you know, the league itself
continues to grow, coach, And I'm curious, as a result
of that, do you have to plan against a more

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diverse style of plays? In other words, do you see
teams playing at different styles that you have to prepare
for more so than say, even when you were a player.

Speaker 8 (01:15:31):
Definitely more than when I was a player, and even
more so than when I was a coach in this
league the first time around. And you know, it used
to be you could you could say, hey, what are
their top three to four plays? Really hone in on
that and that would be your scout. You know, heavy
usage plays three to four and that'd be it. Now
teams are running so many different actions. Obviously, the players

(01:15:53):
are better than they've ever been. They're as versatile as
they've ever been, and so you know, now it's you're
not just talking about pick and roll EFN should talking
about inverted picking rolls. You're talking about dribble handofs, talking
about the screens, step up screen, angled screens, like all
the different things. And that's just on ball, screening defense
and the different ways that they play in the different
reads that they have. It's much more free flowing, much
more difficult to scout, much more nuance to what what

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teams are running, and so it is much more challenging.
And then certain certain teams have different ways that they look.
You know, Dallas certainly looks a lot different than than Atlanta.
You know, Vegas certainly looks a lot different than the
New York and Phoenix looks a lot different last two
teams that we played in Vegas and Chicago.

Speaker 3 (01:16:36):
What about Phoenix jumps out at you now as you
get set for this game tomorrow night, obviously you're going
to see a familiar face into want to bonner. I
guess is that awkward?

Speaker 8 (01:16:44):
By the way, No, it's not awkward. I mean, lucas
professional sports. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. You know,
I have a personal relationship with dB, So for me, uh,
I fee that she's happy that that she's found a place.
You know, we've I think we've both kind of you know,
in terms of the situation. We've been able to move
on in a positive way. She's been able to move
on in a positive way. So I'm happy for her

(01:17:06):
certainly seeing at you know, At is what makes any
team that she's on a challenge, just the way that
she plays the game, her i Q, her ability to
play the point forward, get other players involved, you know,
her her defensive tenacity. But but you've got that coupled
with Sasu Saboli who is you know, Satu and at
two are the best four players you know in the game.

(01:17:29):
They make it a challenge called Leahkopper and I think
she's working back from injury, but I mean she is
as dangerous as ever. Trying to keep her in front.
You know, with certainly Olympians, they've got Multiplympians on that team,
so they create a challenge. Their size will create some
just for us as well.

Speaker 3 (01:17:46):
When you look at Alyssa Thomas and trying to neutralize that.
Stephanie White, our guest, the head coach of the Fever,
do you find in a situation like that that it's
better to defend or neutralize a player by fronting them
and simply trying to deny them the ball or by
then getting help side and you know, being on the
backside of it to limit once they do get the
ball where they can then operate.

Speaker 8 (01:18:07):
Well, Ah's going to have the ball in her hands
on the perimeter, and so for us, it's about keeping
her in front, not overhelping, so that she can do
what she does best. In terms of facilitating, you know,
we've got to be really really disciplined how we play her.
We got a force her to we got a force
her to hit tough shots. We got to make sure
that that we say, really discip make sure so so

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dynamic is not just your scoring ability, which she's scoring
it at all time high, but it's her facilitating and
she is truly a point guard in a forward body.

Speaker 3 (01:18:37):
Yeah, I mean, I guess you're right. You know, that's
the thing. And that's another thing, coach. I think that
you know, when you look at a player that is
you know, and you're talking almost a double double WHENU
factor in the assists, right, So, but the size itself,
I don't know that we would have seen a player
at that size running that style twenty years ago. To me,
it just speaks to the evolution of the game. Am

(01:18:58):
I way romanticizing that?

Speaker 1 (01:19:00):
No, not at all.

Speaker 8 (01:19:01):
I mean, you're absolutely right. It's one of those things
that the game's changed, you know, it's players have changed.
You know, she's she's used in a unique way. We
use there like that in Connecticut as well, because that's
her skill set, it's what she does, and so yeah,
it makes it, it makes it challenging, but it does
show the growth of the game and the growth of players.

Speaker 3 (01:19:23):
If you look at your schedule Stephanie White, our guest.
You have, I believe you have a game every two
or three days until the seventeenth of August. So we're
looking at, you know, a little under three weeks from now,
you get a reprieve of nearly an entire at least
work week off. Is there any thought to just letting

(01:19:43):
Caitlyn Clark use that time to then kind of the
slow acclamation back in for her, as opposed to just
throwing her into the mix once she is healthy again.

Speaker 8 (01:19:55):
Yeah, I mean, certainly we'll have to have Caitlin go
through practices before we throw her out there into a
game again, you know, making sure that we're really taking
this slow. Uh. You know, last time she felt good,
so she got medical practice if any, and then then
thrown out there into the game. You know, this time,
we're going to make sure that we get multiple practices.

(01:20:15):
You know, she gets through some for lack of a
better term, kind of benchmarks that we don't see any
regression and so so yeah, I mean it makes it
tough because we are playing every other day. We're playing
every other day, and then you know, we're traveling out west,
and so every time you travel there's inflammation that happens
on airplanes, rest recovery, time zone changes, all of those

(01:20:35):
things that affect your body as well as your mind.

Speaker 3 (01:20:39):
What's the latest you can tell us with any sort
of definitive nature on her status or where things stand
or what the timeline would be.

Speaker 8 (01:20:47):
Yeah, there's not really a lot that's definitive, you know.
I think the biggest thing is is we got to
make sure number one, from a rehab standpoint, that that
she's strong, that she's comfortable, and then she's got to
start a conditioning regimen that will allow her to build
endurance to make sure we don't have any any setbacks there,

(01:21:08):
and then we'll start movement patterns. You know, all the
lateral movement, all the movement was forced, you know, all
the contact that she takes. And then and then after
we get through those with no setbacks, we'll get to
practice and how it looks like to start to get rhythm, timing, speed, balance,
all of that back and make sure that she feels
as close to one hundred percent with that as possible

(01:21:28):
before we throw back into games.

Speaker 3 (01:21:30):
We were talking about Ryan Samberg, you were a Cardinals
fan growing up?

Speaker 1 (01:21:33):
Is that right?

Speaker 8 (01:21:34):
I was? Yes, I was now big Cardinals fan, big
Audie Smith's fan.

Speaker 3 (01:21:38):
Okay, I want to know how. I guess I mean
where you grew up. And for those that don't know
you grew up obviously, you know Secre, Indiana, Right, that's
what's that like just west of Lafayette?

Speaker 1 (01:21:49):
Is that right?

Speaker 8 (01:21:50):
It's southwest, it's north of Tara Ho. It's halfway between
the University of Illinois and for Due University in the
state of Indiana. So I'm like one mile on the
state line.

Speaker 3 (01:22:01):
Okay. So for that reason, I guess I'm gonna guess
it's because of like just the radio signal of the
Cardinals back in the day, and maybe like a family
relative or something was a Cardinals fan. But I want
to know how it became a Cardinal fan.

Speaker 8 (01:22:14):
You said, radio said, how old do you think I am? No?

Speaker 3 (01:22:18):
No, no, I said, radio signal of an older relative.
So in other words, like your grandfather became a Cardinal
fan by listening to km OX and then carried that on.

Speaker 7 (01:22:26):
Okay, well, you know, listen, I'm old.

Speaker 1 (01:22:28):
You're not.

Speaker 3 (01:22:29):
I mean, I'm old, you're not.

Speaker 6 (01:22:30):
I know that.

Speaker 8 (01:22:31):
Really, where I grew up, we were it was kind
of split down the middle. It's like you were either
a Cardinals fan or you were a Cubs fan, and
that's that's kind.

Speaker 2 (01:22:39):
Of how it works.

Speaker 8 (01:22:39):
Was like you're either a produ fan or you were
an Illinois fan. So you're either a Bears fan or
a Colts fan. So it's kind of one of those
things that that at Chapol's Pacers that you kind of
when I grew up, it was like that, but I did.
I used to go to Cardinal games every summer when
I was a kid. My grandfather was a huge Cardinals fan.
My grandfather was a baseball guy. In fact, he played

(01:22:59):
my league baseball in the Reds organization, but he was
a Cardinal fan growing up and an in turn, we
became Cardinal fans. My whole family really is is extended
family is are Cardinal fans.

Speaker 3 (01:23:10):
I mean, Ozzie Smith was obviously prolific the wizard, right.
I just wanted to the reason I asked it before
we let you go, you know, regardless of whatever team
you were a fan of. I just think Ryan Samberg
personified coach like everything that you would want out of
a player or a role model for young people during

(01:23:30):
his time, and just wanted to get your thoughts on
watching him even as a rival, so to speak, when
you were a kid.

Speaker 8 (01:23:37):
Oh, I loved watching him, you know, those were those
were those uh, those rivalry days, certainly when with the
Cubs and Cardinals. But I think just just just as
you mentioned, not just how he played the game, but
the way he handled himself, his leadership, his consistency. You know,
as a as a young as a young kid, none
of those things really leadership and consistency and all that

(01:23:57):
didn't didn't really matter. I didn't really understand that. But
then the older I've gotten, and when you look at
the craft and especially baseball, the number of games that
they have, the hours that they're on the field every
single day honing their craft, the short off seasons right
the preseasons, and the way that they have to approach
the game mentally as much as physically, and with the

(01:24:20):
consistency and elite mentality that he played, I just think
it was really incredible and you know, such a loss
for the sports community obviously, and just one of the
greatest that ever played.

Speaker 3 (01:24:32):
I always thought it'd be cool to play for the
Cubs back then because it was all day games and
then you can still go out to dinner every night.
That's right, that's hard, think about it, right. I mean
Lights came in eighty eight, Ryan saber get a home
run in the first unofficial game, it got rained out,
and then they came back the next night and played
against Philadelphia. Tomorrow night, it will be the Fever in
action taking on Phoenix. That is a seven o'clock start

(01:24:53):
at Gambridge Field House. Stephanie White, the head coach, and
again Stephanie, no Caitlin Clark tomorrow or for least at
this time, any timeline of the foreseeable future. Correct, that's right, Okay,
appreciate the time as always, coach. All right, thank you,
We sure the best of luck. Stephanie White joining us
on the program tomorrow night. And again unlessa Thomas, like
I said, I mean a six to two a point

(01:25:17):
forward basically, and I know that that's you're operating on
the premeter. It's not the same in any way, shape
or form. But you look at even you know, like
a Halliburton, I mean Halliburton is a is a point guard.
But the size in general in relation to the rest
of the floor, that's what makes it so difficult, and

(01:25:38):
that is certainly a challenge for certain, but that's the
big news there with Caitlyn Clark again, they have I
think it's five games between now and the seventeenth of August,
and then they get a reprief So it'll be interesting
to see. As she talked about need practice days, we'll
see how that all slots. Speaking of practice days, busy
one today for the colts. Stephen Holder will join us
about thirteen minutes from now and it's of a mash

(01:26:00):
unit report from today. We'll get the latest on that
when we come back. We have tickets to give away
drop Kick Murphy's and as well for three Dog Night.
We will let Kylin select right now, drop Kick Murphy's
are three Dog Night, Kyler, which one you want to
go with? First? I thought three Dog Nights Three Dog
Night tickets to give away. This will be at the
Great Indiana State Fair. It is on Friday, and we

(01:26:23):
will do it in our typical fashion with a little
get to know your listener on the other side. If
you would like to go three Dog Night and it's
going to be I believe it's this Friday at the
Indiana State Fair opening night on the Grand Stage there
at the Fair. Two, three, nine, ten, seventy is the
telephone number. Join the program. Next, there you go, three
Dog Night Indiana State Fair this Friday night tickets to

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give away. By the way, you just heard the Tigers
and Phillies that you can hear in this radio station.
Bryce Harper, I don't know if Rob Manford is going
to be there or not, but apparently he paid a
visit to the clubhouse of the Philadelphia Phillies amidst conversation
of Major League Baseball going to a salary cap and
Bryce Harper took exception cussed him out. I think he

(01:27:09):
actually dropped the almighty cuss word on him a couple
of times, cust him out in the clubhouse. Eventually they
allegedly made up, but then Rod Manford apparently called him
on the telephone and Bryce Harper let it go to voicemail.
He might not have his number, Like if you're like
me anymore my phone now and I downloaded some app

(01:27:34):
to screen out like spam calls because I was getting
forty seven a day at one point, and I apparently
I have thirteen hundred and seventy five unpaid tolls in
the state of Arkansas, and I keep getting that text.
So I got something to weed all those out. So
now my phone like automatically kicks any number that's not

(01:27:54):
on my contact list of voicemail, and I don't get
the voice. Like six weeks later, I get something ran
only some email that says you have a voicemail from
this number. Okay, So you know, maybe that's what happened
for Bryce Arbor. Maybe he's got the same three dog
Night Friday night. Let's go to Tony, He joins us
on the program at two three nine ten seventy. Hi, Tony,
how are you hey? I'm just fine now, Tony, you

(01:28:16):
sound subdued. Everything going okay?

Speaker 10 (01:28:20):
Yeah, yeah, everything's kind of cool, just a nice warm afternoon.

Speaker 3 (01:28:25):
So I was just gonna ask that, Tony. We're landlocked
here inside the building. We're in the interior of a building,
so I have not been able to look outside. Things
still looking Sonny.

Speaker 10 (01:28:32):
Outside Sonny and very warm and muggy.

Speaker 3 (01:28:36):
Okay, how bad is it? Because you know, I was
gonna be out a colds camp today and ended up
in here because for logistically speaking, to get Jonathan Taylor
on who we may replay coming up just a little bit.
I thought Jonathan Taylor was really good but I was
worried about the heat. I was up in northern Indiana
early this morning and I saw what I thought was
this huge cloud, and then somebody explained to me that
what I was witnessing was in fact the corn sweat

(01:28:59):
that then burns off. It's like Indiana Bay Area fog,
but it's made by corn. So how muggy is it
out right now, Tony?

Speaker 10 (01:29:06):
I'd say it's on a scale of one to ten,
it's probably about an eight. It's extremely, extremely muggy. And
I got in my early morning swim. Oh really, and
I'm probably just going to chill out for the rest
of them.

Speaker 3 (01:29:22):
Now, Tonal, can we play a little get to know
your listener because that's intriguing by the early morning swim.
Are you okay with us? We've had we've done meetings
on this segment of the show, and kids love it.
In particular, We've had a lot of success with it, Tony.
If you don't mind me asking how old a fell
are you?

Speaker 10 (01:29:36):
Well, I'm seventy.

Speaker 3 (01:29:37):
Six, seventy six year old, Tony okay. And by the way, Tony,
not that seventy six is old, because it's not in
any way, shape or form but that is very impressive
that you did your morning swim, right, I would I'm
guessing at seventy six, that puts you in a graduating
class of high school somewhere around sixty seven, is that right?

Speaker 10 (01:29:55):
Sixty seven Southboard High School.

Speaker 3 (01:29:57):
Okay, here's an odd question for you, Tony. And I
mean this with all sincerity because I find this fascinating,
and this is one of those little nuances that I
find fascinating and everyone else is probably going to think,
what in the world, But I'm curious of this real quick, Tony,
on a serious level, at the time that you were
a senior in high school and the escalation of the

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Vietnam War and the realities of the draft taking place
in particular up through I think seventy or seventy one,
do you remember or can you recall just the tension
or the stress level at that time of the confluence
of the innocence of youth and then the instantaneous force
into adulthood because of what was going on then and

(01:30:42):
what it meant for you and your classmates.

Speaker 10 (01:30:44):
Very definitely, because I was, I mean, everybody watched the
lottery drawings, yep. I was fortunate enough my number was
two five and definitely made going to college an an

(01:31:05):
absolute decision because that did at least give me some time, right,
you know, with my deferment. But anyway, yeah, it was,
it was, it was. It was a tough time for
a couple of years there. I had a lot of
friends that obviously we're not as fortunate that they either

(01:31:30):
did end up in Vietnam or are chosen other route.

Speaker 3 (01:31:33):
Yeah, no, I understand, you know. I I just remember
when I was in high school, Tony, I had a
teacher once and a girl in my class was complaining
about the pressures of having to get a certain grade
to get into to get a scholarship to college or whatnot.
And my teacher, mister Blomberg at the time, who was,
you know, a contemporary of yourself from an age standpoint
or era, like, basically shut the door and said, do

(01:31:55):
you want to talk about pressure of high school and college, Like,
let me tell you about what happened if I didn't
get in college when I was your age, And he
kind of spelled out what you just said. And I've
just always had Tony as somebody who graduated from high
school in nineteen ninety one. The goal for War started
my senior high school. There was never even the remote
possibility or thought obviously of a draft. And to then

(01:32:17):
put myself in the position of what you guys must
have gone through, guys and gals in your class, I
think it is truly. Even though we say that that
those from World War Two were the greatest generation, I
think yours is right there with it. And I've always
just had the utmost respect for what that turmoil must
have been like and the wins of change in this
country from say sixty five to seventy five. I think

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it's a decade that is almost unprecedented in terms of
everything that took place. So for that, I tip my
cap and I say thank you to you and to
your classmates as well for going through that time period.
And there were good times in that time period as well,
some of those perhaps a company by the soundtrack of
Three Dog Night. So I hope you can reflect on

(01:32:59):
those positive times when you were enjoying the show on Friday, Tony,
We'll send you out there, all right.

Speaker 10 (01:33:04):
Yeah, And I might mention one of my classmates was
a friend of yours, and a good friend of yours
and acquaintance unfortunately passed away Robin Miller.

Speaker 3 (01:33:14):
Rob You know what Robin should have been. The first
person I thought of was Southport because there's nobody that
talked more about Southport at his time there. And Tony,
I could go on for till the cows come home
about Robin and the loyalty that he had the fact
that that guy, it was Robin Miller, had a unique ability, Tony.
For every person he was friends with, you were convinced

(01:33:36):
that you were his best friend. And he had an
unbelievable ability to connect people that would have had no
other connection. But if you were a friend of Robin's,
you were a friend of that person's, you know what
I mean. So it truly is a privilege to be
able to say that, yes, in fact, we have that
common friend.

Speaker 10 (01:33:54):
Yeah, ran a lot together in high school. Robin got
me into some trouble.

Speaker 3 (01:34:01):
I can only imagine, right probably on the daily right.

Speaker 10 (01:34:05):
As you know, as you you know, like say, you know, Robin,
it was his mouth that got us into trouble. But uh,
because he he was always uh like like as I
used to say, writing writing checks that the account wouldn't cash.

Speaker 3 (01:34:21):
By the way, did he uh did he wear sweatsuits
to school every day.

Speaker 1 (01:34:26):
No, No, he didn't. He was.

Speaker 10 (01:34:28):
He was the manager on our basketball.

Speaker 3 (01:34:29):
I knew that. I didn't. He's listen. He was proud
of that. I mean, honestly, he was. He was darn
proud of that.

Speaker 1 (01:34:34):
Man.

Speaker 3 (01:34:34):
He was proud of all you guys, Tony, no question
about it. One of the all time greats.

Speaker 10 (01:34:39):
I think at one time I started to tell you
a story about me and George McGinnis when I was
playing against him. Uh that Uh you know, Georgie was
a sophomore and at at Washington and I was pasked
with guarding him, and.

Speaker 1 (01:34:57):
I was.

Speaker 10 (01:34:57):
I was six two and one hundred and sixty five. Yeah,
and it was all elbow, all elbows and knees.

Speaker 3 (01:35:06):
Let's say, yeah, you guarded his kneecaps very well in
that game, right.

Speaker 1 (01:35:11):
Yes, yes, I did.

Speaker 10 (01:35:12):
And at one point, with two minutes to go in
the half, the refs stopped the game, took both of
us by the arm, and walked us over the scorers
bench and told the coaches teater sit us down till
halftime where he's throwing us both out and Robin and
Robin is over there egging the refs on to throw
us out, which I mean it would have been. It

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would have been a pawn for a queen.

Speaker 3 (01:35:35):
Absolutely beautiful. And then of course who would have guessed
that Robin would go on to become you know, basically
best friends of George and all those ABA Pacers, and
just as much as Staple within Central Indiana as mcguinnis,
and you know obviously Downing, and you know that whole
group Adner NIBBs, that whole group of that great sixty
nine team for Indianapolis, Washington. All right, enjoy the show,
Tony Steven Hold are going to join us other side.

(01:35:56):
Report from Colts Camp. Steven Holder giving us the cold
So the cold shoulder, you know, if you write down
as Holder, it's shoulder and he's giving us the cold one.

Speaker 1 (01:36:07):
Is that right?

Speaker 3 (01:36:08):
I'm going to see if now, when you said it
didn't go through Kylon, you mean it was going Is
he weeding us out? Is it going straight to voicemail?

Speaker 4 (01:36:14):
Like I mentioned, it's not even connected so I don't
know if it's just the wrong number or I don't know. Man,
You know what, he probably blocked this number specifically so
he doesn't have to talk to us.

Speaker 3 (01:36:25):
You think that's it. That's entirely possible. Here's I'm giving
you that. See if that's the number that you have
for him. We'll check in with Stephen Holder just a second.
A couple of things that took place at Colt's camp today.
Number one, Jalen Jones was taken off the field with
what appears to be a hamstring injury. We'll find out

(01:36:45):
the latest on that. Shane Stikeen had made comment to
it that might be him calling right now Kylon as
a matter of fact. But then also that was not
the only injury. Michael Pittman left late in practice with
a groin injury. There was also a bit of a
scuffle between Jonathan Taylor, who we talked to earlier on
the show, and Grover Stewart that I think it didn't

(01:37:10):
sound when we talked to Jonathan Taylor, he had some
interesting things to say about it, including those that kind
of stepped up to diffuse. We will replay that for
you in just a little bit, but first let's get
to Steven Older, who joins us from I'm assuming no
longer standing on the side of the field in Westfield,
because Steven, my understanding is it is now getting significantly

(01:37:31):
warm outside, correct.

Speaker 1 (01:37:34):
It's a bit warm Florida that yeah, or or Hell
that's what I imagine. Okay, Hellfield, So like, I don't know,
not been there, thankfully.

Speaker 3 (01:37:47):
I think I would think. Though here's the thing, I
would think that Hell is a dry heat, right, I.

Speaker 1 (01:37:54):
Mean, Arizona's a dry heat but still sucks, right, So sure.

Speaker 3 (01:37:59):
Fair enough, fair enough.

Speaker 1 (01:38:01):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:38:01):
I had a buddy from Phoenix one time, though, I
said to him, I said, how in the world do
you live in one hundred and fifteen degree heat? And
I'll never forget He said, Look, you and I both
live in areas that can have extreme weather conditions, but
none of them for me ever make it any slower
to go out to get my mail. I mean that's
a good point. Like you got to walk on ice,
it's a good point, right, I.

Speaker 1 (01:38:21):
Mean you're probably walking pretty fast to get the mail
when it's one hundred and fifteen.

Speaker 3 (01:38:24):
Yeah, don't do a barefootair, do not do a barefoot Okay, Steven,
let's get to this from an injury standpoint. I mentioned
Jalen Jones, I mentioned Michael Pittman Junior. What else happened
today out at camp and what is the latest in
terms of anybody that may miss time.

Speaker 1 (01:38:41):
Yeah, well, I'll just add for contact on the Jayalen
Jones front. I mean, we all saw it happen. He
was running down on an individual portion of practice to
do the one on one passing drills, and he was
trailing the receiver I forget who it was, and you know,
sort of in a on a deep ball and he

(01:39:02):
just pulled up lame and just went down immediately and
grabbed that hamstring. And you know, it wasn't one of
those where he just kind of like tweaked it and
you know, just walked off the field. He went down hard,
and it looked you know, I don't want to characterize
it because I have no idea, right, but it did
not look like like a routine thing. So I think

(01:39:22):
there's concern there beyond that. I think the other one
that's of note is Juju Brents missed practice today with
a hamstring and his Oh so you know that raises
questions even beyond Elan Jones because now you have a
possible depth issue at that position. I don't know if

(01:39:44):
Jujubin's situation is serious. He practiced yesterday. He talked to
reporters after practice I saw him, talk to him. He
seemed fine, and then today he wasn't out there. So
I don't know what to make of that, but that
that was interesting and surprising, I guess. But if there's
an issue there with him that is remotely long term,

(01:40:06):
that's a concern because now you're down two guys out
of maybe your top five corners, and that's not great.
At a position where injuries are are high, they tend
to be high. So anyway, I think that's the other
one to mention.

Speaker 3 (01:40:22):
Let's get then to battle number one, which we're gonna
check on each and every day. Quarterback battle today. If
you had to, if this was one of those games
they have up on the video board, Steven where it
shows like the you know section three in section four,
are you know, cheer it on to see who's gonna
which dot's gonna win and they go back and forth,
back and forth. Is that what this quarterback battle is?

(01:40:44):
Or is it too early to say? If either one
of them has a lead, I would.

Speaker 1 (01:40:50):
Say they've been very even. I wouldn't call it back
and forth. In fact, it's weird when they when they've
been good, they've both had days. I think the same time,
and then when they've had bad days, those days have
come at the same time. So I don't know if
you if you understand what I'm saying. But because of that,

(01:41:10):
from an optics perspective, it doesn't look like anyone's really
in a way because they're kind of they're kind of
neck and neck. At least in my perspective. I tend
to think for me, that means that that Andy Richardson
probably has an edge. I got to feel like Daniel

(01:41:31):
Jones has to come in and I think win the job.
That's the way I conceive this going, at least in
my head. I don't know what the colts Field and
I would say, if that's the standard, then that has
not happened so far.

Speaker 3 (01:41:44):
Okay, Steven, tell me if this makes sense. And you
might have to like kind of pause for a second
after I say it to absorb it because it's going
to sound weird. But I think I've simplified my thought
by saying this. If Daniel Jones is the starter week one,
it's likely it's not because Daniel Jones won the job.

(01:42:05):
It's because Anthony Richardson did not.

Speaker 6 (01:42:11):
I think that's that's.

Speaker 1 (01:42:12):
Potentially true because look, I think right now, if we
if Daniel Jones keeps performing at the level he's performing
at right now, it's not anything special.

Speaker 3 (01:42:28):
Okay, Is its being pluck?

Speaker 1 (01:42:32):
No, it isn't. But I but I would say with him,
I think what you have is he's playing at an
acceptable level. So is Daniel Jones, right, but but nothing special.
Anthony Richardson, I think is performing at a an acceptable
level right now in practice. Uh. The difference though, is
he has the explosive ability both with his legs and

(01:42:55):
his big arm, and and that I think critically in
my mind, that separates him a little bit from Daniel
Jones his version of ordinary. Does that make sense?

Speaker 3 (01:43:06):
It does? I think. Here's the thing. Let me, I
guess A better way to say is this, does Anthony
Richardson to you? Has he shown Stephen Holder any more
consistency with the easy throws? We know he can make
the hard throws, it's the routine throws. Is he any
better with his accuracy?

Speaker 1 (01:43:27):
I would say yes, I do think so. Yeah, And
I like that. I like that he is he is
more decisive. I think, I think a little more decisive.
One of the things he did last year and has
done is maybe hold the ball a tick too long
when that first read maybe isn't readily available. You've got

(01:43:50):
to make snap decisions, and so he has gotten rid
of the ball. I think on time today, I thought
it was fantastic today in some spots. Now he was
spotty at the end of but he had some really
good throws today that were contested throws on the sideline
outside the numbers. Not deep throws, but short and intermediate throws.

(01:44:11):
Those are sometimes the hardest throws. The deep throws, those
tend to be all about timing, right, you know, receiver wins.
You give him a chance, he goes in and gets
the ball. They're beautiful throws, and we love the big
plays and all that, right, but where you really make
your money is making the tough, contested throws. He's doing that,

(01:44:32):
at least in practice right now, I think, at a
level that is greater than I've ever seen him do it.
And so if he's answering that question, I think it
was the biggest question. He also is not turning it
over as much, which is a huge, I think point
to make because last year I thought the turnovers were

(01:44:53):
his biggest problem. He's mad, then he's a.

Speaker 3 (01:44:59):
Better player player to the to this point in camp.
Steven Holder ESPN dot Com is our guest, the player
in camp to this point who has most helped himself
not named Bernard Ryman, by the way.

Speaker 1 (01:45:14):
Oh my goodness, helped himself a lot. You know, the
guy that just keeps showing up. And I know if
you're following the daily coverage, you've heard this name a lot,
but i'll repeat it justin Wally. I am thoroughly impressed
the rookie cornerback from Minnesota. This guy every day he
makes a play. I'm not joking every day, and with
what I just outlined, with the injury situation at corner,

(01:45:37):
it's only gonna strengthen the notion that he's an opening
day starter. Look, they'll have Kennymore at the nickel corner
and outside in the defense, but you know, generally a
nickel corner Shavarius Ward, and then there's that third cornerback
on the outside, the second outside cornerback. That's the position

(01:45:57):
that's up for grabs. Jalen Jones was a starter there
for seventeen games last season. He got hurt. Today. We'll
see how bad it is. But I think even without
the injury. Justin Wally is ahead of him right now,
and he has earned it. I'm telling you, the guy
makes a play every day. Yesterday I believe it was yesterday. Yeah,

(01:46:18):
he had a pass breakup against Tyler Warren. Or it
might have been Sunday. Their days run together. They're all hot,
that's all I know. He had a pass breakup against
Tyler Warren. That was just a brilliant play. That guy
he has real, real stud potential. I think I'm exaggerating.
He's been really good.

Speaker 3 (01:46:37):
How big is he? Because you know, like Juju Britz,
I really like because he's big, right, But then you
get I go back to like Tye Poole. You know,
we've seen guys that are smaller, but if they've got
reaction time, it doesn't matter how big is is.

Speaker 1 (01:46:50):
Whelly not big at all. He's like five ten. And
in fact, it was the most puzzled thing to me
because Chris Ballard has made no bones about it. I
mean he likes long cornerbacks. You see the guys that
he has drafted over the years. I mean Juju Brent's
being a great example. It's the reason he wasn't even

(01:47:11):
interested in mean Kenny Moore off waivers when he was
available well eight years ago or whatever that was, and
his personnel staff had to like beg him to make
the waiver claim. That turned out okay. But you know,
Kenny Moore is a small guy. He's five to nine
and and wasn't you know, didn't have the the dimensions

(01:47:32):
that Chris Paller looks for. So I saw that here
with with Justin Wallly, and I was kind of sprised
they would make the pick. But they what they really
like and what they what they thought would help him
overcome his size is his competitiveness. He has an edge
to him, man, I'm telling you. And and at that position,
you got to have an edge mental and physically. He's

(01:47:53):
tough and he is competitive, and there's there's a lot
to like there. I really like to pick so far, Stephen.

Speaker 3 (01:48:00):
When you look at an NFL roster in general, over
your experience of watching teams being built, the position where
you can mask or hide a player that is not
up to par is where what is this of the
non specialty position, So I'm not talking punter, kicker, long snapper,

(01:48:22):
but of the everyday down positions, which one is the
one where if you had to pick one guy that
is like the least on your depth chart. You can
get away with it at that spot and it kind
of gets covered up.

Speaker 1 (01:48:34):
So I think the one that historically has been true
as linebacker, and they may be hind to do that
here frankly because they haven't invested anything in that position.
So maybe there's truth to that. Maybe they adhere to
that philosophy in Indy. I guess depending on defense. Sometimes

(01:48:56):
depending on what that players asked to do. Safety or
at least one of the safeties if you're playing if
you're playing a safety that's for example, in the box
like the Colts used to do with Gus Bradley's position
or Gus Bradley's defense, sometimes you can mask that with
the strong safety that Freezete's got to be able to

(01:49:18):
cover a lot of ground in a single high defense.
So that would not that would not be a choice.
But certainly some safeties and some defenses, and I think
linebackers that's the little ones. I'd say. The other one
would be maybe interior offensive line. But if you but
with the emergence of these these stud defensive tackles that

(01:49:41):
we see today, that's gotten harder and you can't hide
them anymore. And then one other thing I'd add is
that at linebacker, with the way some of these tight
ends have emerged and the matchups that you get put
in there, you can't hide them sometimes either. So you
know at some point everybody's going to have to make.

Speaker 3 (01:49:59):
A Steven Holder, our guest ESPN dot Com is where
you can read his work as he covers Colt's camp
and gets you set for the regular season, obviously, and
all the way through the preseason. Steven, what about a
player so far in this camp that has most hurt themselves?
And I don't mean from an injury standpoint, and I
don't mean at the quarterback spot, but somebody that you

(01:50:21):
look at and you just go, Boy, opportunities there in
a platter, and they have yet to reach out and
grab it.

Speaker 8 (01:50:27):
You.

Speaker 1 (01:50:27):
No, I still come back to a d Mitchell just
the inconsistency for me, I just I don't know how
you trust him.

Speaker 11 (01:50:37):
Now.

Speaker 1 (01:50:37):
He's had a good couple of days, I would say,
yesterday and today I thought he's bounced back and he
needed it because he was dropping, damn there everything for
the first week of camp. And I don't know if
there was something going on with him, if he was
just trying too hard, and maybe there was an issue
there where he's just forcing things.

Speaker 3 (01:50:57):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:50:58):
I'm not a psychologist, but I just I saw a
guy who just could not be counted on, and I
think for him. You know, this is a team of
coaching staff that has been over backwards to tell us
we still love this guy and he's still a guy
that we believe in. They've done that repeatedly, and my

(01:51:22):
argument has been he hasn't earned that, but they keep
telling us that, right, and so at some point you
have to actually give some evidence of what your coaches
are saying is true. And he had not done that
through the first week of camp. We'll see if he
can keep this going in the last couple of days,
the bounce back that he's had, but but that remains

(01:51:44):
had a good day.

Speaker 3 (01:51:45):
He had a good day today.

Speaker 1 (01:51:46):
Correct, Yeah, I'd say, I'd say yes.

Speaker 3 (01:51:49):
Now, let me ask you about this guy. You know,
each year I go all in on a guy, right,
I go all in. Usually it's a guy I know
nothing about. I just look at the roster and I
go I like that guy. Okay, Like the high school
he went to or of course right. Uh, Landon Parker's
got hair like Jeff's McCoy and he's a rookie at
the age of twenty five out of Troy. I'm all

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in on Landon Parker. Have you heard of Landon Parker.
He's a wide receiver.

Speaker 1 (01:52:15):
Uh yeah, yeah, yeah, a big expert on land.

Speaker 3 (01:52:19):
Is he still there?

Speaker 1 (01:52:20):
Do we know?

Speaker 3 (01:52:20):
If he's still there? He might have been released earlier today.

Speaker 1 (01:52:23):
I don't think so, not that I'm aware of, but
I reserved the right to be wrong.

Speaker 3 (01:52:28):
A year ago, my guy was Derek I think his
name was Derek Slifka, something like that.

Speaker 1 (01:52:32):
I remember this. We had many conversations about this guy. Well, no,
you had conversations and I just nodded, you know.

Speaker 3 (01:52:38):
Derek slifegood. By the way, a little non fun fact,
future roommate of Landon Parker, just so you know, right,
they're going to be sharing a two bedroom somewhere in
the UFL.

Speaker 1 (01:52:48):
It sounds like a player that, you know what, and
they'll live happily.

Speaker 3 (01:52:51):
Ever at I even went all in in the in
the USFL, now the UFL or whatever it's called. I
went all in on the Birmingham Stallions and now they're
moving like I'm literally yesterday I had Jalen Jones on
the show, he heard his hamstring. Ale Pierce on the
show gets a booboo blister. I mean, I'm a walking
jinx Steven. As a matter of fact, you're not driving
right now, are you?

Speaker 6 (01:53:10):
I am?

Speaker 1 (01:53:10):
But you did get Bernard Raymond paid, so I gave
you that one.

Speaker 3 (01:53:14):
Listen, I look, look, you got to you gotta get
Bernard Ryman knew what he was saying, didn't he?

Speaker 1 (01:53:21):
Oh yeah, oh yeah, he's no idiot, very savvy. I
love it. That was when a plan comes together.

Speaker 3 (01:53:28):
Should I get agent gets seven percent? Should I get
three and a half percent? For those that are unfamiliar,
Bernard Ryman on this radio show spoke out about how
far away he was with the Colts on a contract
agreement that went somewhat noteworthy from a national standpoint amongst
football circles, and then people were like, what is Indianapolis doing?
And then by a boom, he gets one hundred million
bucks three and a half percent. I should get right.

Speaker 1 (01:53:52):
I mean, you start there and then you negotiate from there.
I'd say, but that's a good start.

Speaker 3 (01:53:57):
I'll take a watch, don't guys do running backs by
lineman watches. I'll take a watch.

Speaker 1 (01:54:03):
I think I think that's fair. I think that's fair.

Speaker 3 (01:54:06):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:54:06):
I would also add, just Claire, I do think just
as much as you might have helped him, he might
also have been helped by the gargantuan contracts that other
offensive linemen have signed in the last few weeks. But
I mean that's just me saying that.

Speaker 3 (01:54:20):
Oh, you're right. I mean, there's no doubt about the fact.
As we talked about Steven kidding aside, the Colts kind
of had to get it done because his tag, unless
he got hurt, was only going to go up right
his price.

Speaker 1 (01:54:30):
Yeah, No, I'll understand. He's gotten better every year. That's
the thing about him, which is which is great, that's
what you want. But what if he goes out there
and he shuts down all these stud defensive ends. Well,
if you're his agents, you're like, buddy, you know that
that contract we talked about last year, Yeah, forget that right,

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that's exactly the conversation. So they were right to do
it now. And they've done this with all their their
big offensive linemen. They did this with with Clinton Nelson,
they did it with Ryan Kelly multiple times. They did
it in Smith right. They signed all these guys going
into the final year of their rookie deals. And that's

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how you do it. Don't screw around when you got
a good thing, you know. I think I look at
it as team building. I look at it as problem solving, right.
Your goal, Your job is to go out there and
figure it out, figure things out, solve problems. Well, letting
your your left tackle who you love get to free agency,

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that is creating a problem. So this was a problem
solving move by the Colts to lock them up and
now they're there.

Speaker 3 (01:55:41):
Okay, Steven. In conclusion, give me a problem when it
comes to the Colts that you are looking for a
riddle or I should say a riddle for the Colts
that you're looking for the answer here in the next
couple of days, we are looking for what storylines now
through Camp.

Speaker 1 (01:55:58):
I guess I'd say consistency at wide receiver. These guys
are too good, I think, to be up and down
the way they have been. Pittman and Downs been better
the last couple of days, So I'm happy about that.

Speaker 3 (01:56:12):
Okay. Pittman injury groin injury today you say not significant
at least, right, I don'n't think so.

Speaker 1 (01:56:16):
I don't think so.

Speaker 3 (01:56:17):
Okay anyway, as you were on the receiver.

Speaker 1 (01:56:20):
So anyway, I just think way too uneven for the
first week of camp. And these guys are too good
for that, and they got to help the quarterback. So
let's just see if they can continue that what they've
done the last couple of days and make what the
first week was, or let me rephrase that, make the
first week an aberration. Let's put it that way. The

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other thing, I guess if you want a bonus one,
look next week or in fact, a week from today,
they're in Baltimore. Let's see how they look against Lamar Jackson,
and let's see what kind of stress he puts on them,
and that'll tell us a lot about this defense. So
that's an upcoming riddle you know that we made an
answer to. By the way, in.

Speaker 3 (01:57:00):
Terms of consistency at receiver. Let me introduce you to
Landon Parker.

Speaker 1 (01:57:06):
I mean, here you are with an answer.

Speaker 3 (01:57:08):
It's eleven. I'm telling you looks like SPECCOLEI the answer.
It looks like Speccoli plays like Jefferson. That's all I
got to say, all Right, Steven Holder appreciate it. We
will talk to you soon, all right, Stay cool at camp. Oh, Stephen,
you know what, hold on, I got one other one
for you. Sorry, I totally forgot this. Are you still there?

Speaker 1 (01:57:29):
Yeah, I am. Listen.

Speaker 3 (01:57:30):
I'm gonna put you on the spot here, and I
apologize for that. But I totally never do that.

Speaker 1 (01:57:34):
I know you never do that.

Speaker 3 (01:57:35):
We have mentioned before on the program. Your uncle in
law is Hall of Famer Andre Dawson. I think we've
mentioned that on the show. I hope you don't mind
me outing that that your wife spend a lot of
time in childhood with Andre Dawson, her uncle. I'm just
strictly curious whether or not, just in pat you know,
yesterday or whatever it may be, if she ever made
mention of the fact, or if she ever had any

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encounter with Ryan Sandbrig since we lost Ryan Samberg yesterday.
I thought maybe there might have been a story that
she had shared with you that you could share.

Speaker 1 (01:58:04):
No, she knew the family in fact, yeah, and if
I recall correctly, may have actually baby sat his kids,
so I mean, you know, when she was like twelve.
But yeah, yeah, that I said. The first thing I
thought about when I saw the news. So yeah, that
whole Cub's crew back in the day. From everything I

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was told, I mean I wasn't there, but everything I've told,
I mean, that was a really close knit group, as
you can imagine, right, and they're all the families are
still close and all that. So yeah, I haven't talked
to Dere since that news or heard from him, but
I imagine, I imagine he'll he'll be there for the
services and that kind of thing. That group's still pretty close,

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so I definitely that's definitely struck a quarter with me
when I saw it for that reason.

Speaker 3 (01:58:53):
Yeah, great player, no question, appreciate it, Steven as always.
Ryan Samberg, who's daughter, by the way, lived in Central
and I think Ryan Samberg spent a lot of time
it might have even lived here briefly, but truly truly
a class gentlemen. All right. There was a scuffle at
the Colts camp. One of the guys that got after
he got in a fight, he came out with us
and we'll let you hear a little of that next
Dropkick Murphy's They're gonna be out at Verwise Amphitheater at

(01:59:15):
the Lawn at White River awesome facility. We will give
tickets away coming up just a couple of minutes, but
first I want to replay for you. We don't normally
do that, but I thought there was some really good
stuff in here, and we had them right off the
top of the show. Essentially, Jonathan Taylor of the Colts
joined us, and of course the first question was simply
the mindset for a guy now entering year number six in.

Speaker 6 (01:59:34):
Camp, it's great to actually be able to come out
here and get better, especially with athletes for so schedule
and so regimented and our scheduled that when you have
a timeline and let's say you had somebody to take
care of in the off season to get healthy, and
then at that point in time, you're not ready because
we know the body is weird and an act different.
So you get a little frustrated because you know you

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put so much work in and yet still you weren't
able to be healthy to be on the field. So
finally being able to another camp where you can just
come out focus on your craft, I think it's just
that much better in order to build that chemistry with
the guys up front, but then also just preparing for
the season to have everything and the playbook under your belt,
and all the little nuances that we might have picked
up throughout the off season, having that lockdown heading.

Speaker 1 (02:00:17):
Into the season.

Speaker 3 (02:00:17):
Over the course of your career, you have obviously taken
handoffs from myriad of quarterbacks as a running back. How
important is it to have stability at the quarterback position
in terms of just the overall I guess chemistry, timing.

Speaker 1 (02:00:34):
All of it well, number one, especially with ball handling.

Speaker 6 (02:00:38):
You know, when you just continuously are getting in handoffs
in the same quarterback, you kind of know their steps.
You know on outside zone, are they you know, a
longer step guy, or they a shorter step guy. You
kind of know whenever verse and now you know how
tight they're going to be because you know everybody's different,
especially when you have quarterbacks who are taller and you know,
have longer legs than others. So you know, when you're
able to get those repetitive from just one quarterback, it's

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much easier and you get much more comfortable knowing like hey,
when they call the team, you know, okay, hey, I
have to really get to my spot because I know
the quarterbacks want to be there fast, or hey, I
got a little bit of time. Quarterback may have a
little bit shorter leg, so I got a little bit
of time to get there.

Speaker 3 (02:01:14):
Our Daniel Jones and Anthony Richardson in terms of style
or in terms of just overall nuances within them, is
this the closest you've seen quarterback one to two in
terms of the starter or backup that you have had
in your offense since you've been here.

Speaker 6 (02:01:33):
They are very similar, And I don't think people realize,
like Daniel was actually really athletic. I don't know if
they realize like you ran like twenty one almost twenty
two miles four, so really able to have distinct different
quarterbacks with different styles. So if you know, one was
up one week kind of play, what would be different
than the other. But they're actually very similar. So I
think that actually gives us an edge, especially you know

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we have you know, have to rely on both of
those guys. It doesn't shift they came plan much either.
Just like in the past, Like I said, you know,
two distinct style quarterbacks, they kind of have to switch
up kind of what you guys are gonna run.

Speaker 3 (02:02:06):
You know, it is true now you mentioned Daniel Jones,
like twenty two miles an hour. That's your speed, right,
I mean, do you guys are you competitive about this
because that's that's Jonathan Taylor's speed, is it not?

Speaker 6 (02:02:17):
That is That's why I'm I'm like, I don't think
people realize how I've leg he actually is. And I
know people probably think he's athletic, but I want them
to realize, like, no, actually, this dude's like pretty athletic,
like he can roll.

Speaker 3 (02:02:28):
How much of you gotten a chance to you know,
I know you obviously know Anthony Richards and Jonathan Taylor
our guest. How much you have you gotten a chance
to work with and know away from field, Daniel Jones.

Speaker 6 (02:02:41):
I've been able to do a lot, and I just
think that it's gonna take some time, know, to continue
to build. Like you mentioned, each year, it seemed like,
you know, it's been, you know, a different guy back there.
So he's another face that I have to not even
figure out, just get reps to learn because every guy
has their own talent and every guy is different. So
it's just going to continue. You were only in the
second week of camp, so we're going to continue to

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build that relationship and continue to build those reps together.
So that when Sunday comes around, whoever's back there, that
we're able to heal all cylinders.

Speaker 3 (02:03:10):
This is the most And Jonathan Taylor, you know I've
had you on the show before. This to me feels
like the most energetic and optimistic Jonathan Taylor I've heard
in a while. Am I reading too much into that?

Speaker 6 (02:03:22):
I'd like to think that I'm always like this, But
I'm glad that you feel as Doug and I'm bringing
all energy to the show, which is amazing. Hopefully the
ratings are big time.

Speaker 1 (02:03:31):
Yea.

Speaker 3 (02:03:31):
We need all the help we can get in that regard, Jonathan,
So thank you. Do you want to stick around till three?
We can use you till three? Do you want to
stick around?

Speaker 6 (02:03:38):
So you might have to talk to coach psych and
we got meetings. We got meetings now.

Speaker 1 (02:03:42):
I want to know this.

Speaker 3 (02:03:43):
I want to know if in one of those meetings
you've got to play Kumbaya because let me read you
what James Boyd, who does our morning show, had posted
on the expost Twitter earlier. Just a little bit ago,
Colts defensive tackle Grover Stewart just through Jonathan Taylor to
the ground after Taylor made a short catch j T
took exception and shoved Grove in the chest. Lying left
guard Quentin Nelson came over and had some words for

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Grover Stewart as well, and he says, second day of
PADS has been physical, all right, your recollection of.

Speaker 6 (02:04:10):
It definitely Grove got into the moment game time. He's
flying around. He'd let me know, he said, listen, man,
I thought it was game time, rightfully. So that's the
type of edge that we need on the field. I'm
sure you guys have seen the film of Grover's bullying
guys on the offensive line, so seg like you mentioned,
second day of PAD, he probably got into god to
that mode a little bit too much, But that's what

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we need. That's the type of edge that we need
in order to go where we want to go this year.

Speaker 3 (02:04:36):
Somebody asked me this question, Jonathan Taylor, so I'll ask
it to you. I think it's a good one. And
that is, if there are moments where someone is lagging,
where somebody is just going through the motions as opposed
to the intensity that is necessary, who is the player
in your locker room, on your roster that is the
one that just automatically is the leader that will not

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be afraid to get in a guy's grill and say,
got to be a professional here, let's pick it up.
That guy for this roster is who.

Speaker 6 (02:05:04):
Oh, definitely, definitely Quintin Nelson is always especially what the
guys off the line. You guys know the trajectory that
Quinton Nelson is on, not only on the field, but
off of the field as well. And he's a guy
who does everything the right way. He's he's a true
pros pro and if guys seem to be not holding
up to the standard here in the building, he's definitely
wanted to say, listen, that's not the standard, and we're

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always fully behind you. Because at the end of the day,
you want someone who you know, day in and day out,
is given everything he has to this organization, and that's
someone you want to be like. Ever you want to
be like Quenton Nelson, you want to be like the
Bisus side, you want to be like a DeFord Buckner.
So that's definitely having those two guys as model professionals.
That's what a lot of guys are striving to be.

Speaker 3 (02:05:48):
He strikes me Quentin Nelson is a guy that doesn't
speak a lot, so is he one of those that
when he does, you know it means business or are
we just kind of hidden from the real gregarious nature
of Quentin Nelson No.

Speaker 6 (02:05:59):
Quinton definitely, We definitely won't say a whole lot, but
like you mentioned, when he speaks powerful.

Speaker 3 (02:06:05):
Jonathan Taylor, our guest, all right, let's get to this
before we let you get back into meetings, Jonathan, in
terms of you personally where you are right now, in
terms of just kind of getting the feel again for
the speed of the season, and I guess if you
will what things do you still feel like you need
to work on or you need to perfect before we

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get into week one.

Speaker 1 (02:06:29):
Definitely, being efficient.

Speaker 6 (02:06:30):
There's never a time where even if things break down
with the blocking scheme up front, can you get back
to the line of scrimmage, can you turn a no
gain or a negative gain into a one to two
yard game? Is at the end of the day, continuant
to move the sticks forward, continuing to be able to
move the change is something that a great running back
is able to do it That helps the offense. That

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helps the offense, especially when you get towards third down,
so it's not third and eleven, third and ten, now
at the worst you may be working with third and
seven or third and six, So I will say being
able to work on that is definitely something that I
still want to make sure that I'm pushing forward to.

Speaker 1 (02:07:05):
Start of this season.

Speaker 3 (02:07:06):
By the way, November fifteenth, Wisconsin at Indiana, Kurtz Signetti,
they're going to do it again? Is Indiana gonna stun
Wisconsin here?

Speaker 6 (02:07:13):
No no, no, no, no, no, no, not at all,
not at all.

Speaker 1 (02:07:15):
Listen, witchconsin.

Speaker 6 (02:07:16):
Although we had to kind of get our feet underneath us,
that's all. That's nice and cool. But now it's time
for Wisconsin. They get back to Wisconsin football, and I'm
really looking forward to those guys taking that next step
forward this year.

Speaker 3 (02:07:28):
Jonathan. It is always a pleasure, man. I appreciate the optimism,
the energy, the good vibes, the sunshine, all of it.
And obviously we don't need any more heat out at
Colts Camp. But mind your p's and q's with those
guys that are flying around making plays. But certainly look
forward to having you back on the program. And I
appreciate the time today well to let you get back
into your your position meetings here.

Speaker 6 (02:07:49):
Thank you very much, man I appreciate you.

Speaker 3 (02:07:52):
Jonathan Taylor from earlier today on this program, we had
told you drop Kick Murphy's. We have tickets to give away.
That is going to be and listen, the lawn and
theverys Amphitheater. Our friends at Live Nation putting that show on.
But that facility is awesome and in particular, just on
a summer night, even if you're whether you're you know,
in the lawn or underneath the overhang, awesome facility, super

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convenient right there downtown. We have tickets for it for
their show. I've got Kylin. Do you have the date
of that show? I'd have to look it up, Yeah,
real quick.

Speaker 4 (02:08:22):
Next Tuesday, August fifth.

Speaker 3 (02:08:24):
August, the fifth Tuesday night, gonna be a perfect night.
We will give away those tickets at two three nine
one zero seven zero, betterly known as two three nine
ten seventy next me a super fun show. I'm telling
you drop Kick Murphy's tickets to give away. Two nine
ten seventy is the telephone number. We're gonna go roulette
style and I'll go line two line too. That leaves us, Jeff, Jeff,

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you are on the program.

Speaker 1 (02:08:50):
How are you? Jeff? Hello? Jeff?

Speaker 3 (02:08:52):
Fine, Jeff, you sound like a nice fella. Are you
a native to Indianapolis Chef?

Speaker 7 (02:08:58):
Yeah, Well, I was born in Denver, came here when
dev Got transferred to a different Air Force base, and
been here for seventy one and a half years.

Speaker 3 (02:09:07):
I love it all right. So and you were born
where again.

Speaker 7 (02:09:12):
Denver at the Air Force base out in Denver, Denver?

Speaker 3 (02:09:15):
Got you? Okay? My girlfriend Shannon's from Denver. As a
matter of fact, not born in Denver, but from Denver.
Do you ever go back to Denver?

Speaker 7 (02:09:21):
Jeff, Yeah, go out and see Tedesky trucks at the
Red Rocks every year.

Speaker 1 (02:09:27):
Man.

Speaker 3 (02:09:27):
Red Rocks is the best, isn't it.

Speaker 1 (02:09:29):
Yes, it is.

Speaker 7 (02:09:30):
It's amazing.

Speaker 3 (02:09:32):
Of course, you got the NHRA strip right behind it.
You got Red Rocks. I don't know if you've ever
noticed this, but when you leave Red Rocks, when you
walk up the walkway out of Red Rocks, that's the
Amphitheater in Denver, Colorado. It was built actually as part
of the New Deal after the war. When you are
actually after the depression before the war, when you when
you walk up out of Red Rocks, in the Rocks

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there there's actually embedded they have fossils, dinosaur fossils. Have
you ever noticed that?

Speaker 8 (02:09:59):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (02:10:00):
Uh been to the ground the gift shop for her
and stuff down below it, yep.

Speaker 6 (02:10:04):
And younger people to me go.

Speaker 7 (02:10:07):
Hiking up there. But that's that's not gonna happen.

Speaker 3 (02:10:11):
When Shannon was in high school, she actually climbed the
Three Big Rocks, which is highly illegal, and oh yes
it is. Yeah, I should probably never do that again.
Nor had mentioned mention it on live radio. All right,
Jeff drop tick Murphy's We'll get you the tickets. You
will love it. I promise it'll be like being in
a night at Red Rocks, perfect night, downtown Indy. And
I appreciate you listening to the show and calling in.

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Kylo will get your information before she does that. Paul
has been waiting patiently to talk Colts, so we will
bring him in. Hi, Paul, how are you hey?

Speaker 1 (02:10:40):
Paul? Hey?

Speaker 3 (02:10:41):
Glad to me man, Paully, what's up, buddy?

Speaker 7 (02:10:44):
Hey?

Speaker 11 (02:10:45):
Just helped the Colts this year like left Tack when
he do everything better with Anthony Richardson the last year.
And it sounds like from what everybody was saying, I
hope that keeps pulled out so they can keep people
from getting him and uh, when everybody gets in the
trenches and uh, I'm glad.

Speaker 1 (02:11:04):
Hopefully the fever. I'm you know, hoping they're doing great. Uh.
Then tomorrow, tomorrow I'll.

Speaker 11 (02:11:10):
Get out and see them, and I hope you're doing good.

Speaker 8 (02:11:13):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (02:11:14):
Yeah, I'll have to keep in touch.

Speaker 11 (02:11:15):
I'll get because you and H and Jay and b
thank you for those Bob Dylon tickets.

Speaker 1 (02:11:22):
I get up and get you guys some goodies.

Speaker 6 (02:11:25):
I'll have to up.

Speaker 3 (02:11:26):
And I told you Mark Baker, our buddy Mark Baker
wants to take you out to lunch. And I left
your voicemail. We got to go out to lunch with
Now I can't do it from twelve to three, but
we got to get together Pauly and go with Mark Baker.

Speaker 1 (02:11:39):
Yeah, yeah we could.

Speaker 6 (02:11:40):
We'll get together one of these get out there and
do something.

Speaker 1 (02:11:44):
Paully. Did you get Hey?

Speaker 3 (02:11:45):
Did you get a TV?

Speaker 1 (02:11:45):
At?

Speaker 3 (02:11:46):
Do we still need to get your TV?

Speaker 11 (02:11:48):
I'll get when I'm trying to move where I'm at.
So I'm up by Timpton Girl School and I might
get down and uh, rod replan On can't even talk
forty sixth Street. I know a guy who lives down
there and it's a no apartments.

Speaker 6 (02:12:06):
I got to call a guy on.

Speaker 11 (02:12:09):
Down on Meridian, but anyway find out about those are
a carriage house.

Speaker 6 (02:12:14):
So I'm gonna get that together.

Speaker 11 (02:12:16):
And because I'm kind of far from Broad Ripple.

Speaker 3 (02:12:19):
Now, all right, well, Paula, here's the thing. So you
got to get a hold of me. You have my
number obviously, or I will call you. We're gonna go
out to lunch with Mark. Then we'll get your TV
and we'll get you squared away. But I'm gonna mark
it down now, Paully, says Anthony richardson Starter Week one.

Speaker 11 (02:12:32):
Right right right, all right, yeah, yeah, yeah, send me
your number at let me know if I get a
hold of this one girl. If you think of going out,
if you're thinking of going to see because I say you,
if you're thinking of going to see McCartney or anything.

Speaker 3 (02:12:49):
I'm going to see McCartney in Denver, Paul, Actually I'm
going October eleventh, and appreciate the call. Paul It paully'
is my man. Paul Frere going to see McCartney October
eleventh in Denver, Colorado. Jamb just got here and is
wearing the most fabulous shirt of all time. I think
I told you you know my story about when I
wore Bucko Bruce shirt and several people came up to me.

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It was some sort of subtle meeting fifteen years ago
in the airport. But nonetheless, big show lined up.

Speaker 2 (02:13:14):
Yeah big Hey, by the way, my daughter is going
to des Moines to see Yeah, that's awesome. Two tickets
to des Moines. I believe that Tuesday of she had
three dates she could go during the Center Girl fall
break and that was the first one.

Speaker 3 (02:13:29):
That's awesome, jess mo Winus as I call it. So
that's actually Des Moines's kind of a cool little downtown
den Moye. It's kind of weird that he's going.

Speaker 1 (02:13:36):
To des Moines.

Speaker 3 (02:13:37):
Kind of is, isn't it. Yeah, he's not playing.

Speaker 2 (02:13:39):
Here right now, Columbus des Moines, Minneapolis, Denver's where you
got the tickets. So that is all weird. So how
hot was it up there today?

Speaker 3 (02:13:48):
Jeff fun I actually was not there today because we
ended up Jonathan Taylor was calling in. So the morning show, guys,
you're going to have Tyler Warren on tomorrow. Yeah, we
had Taylor on today, and so it was a result.
Logistically speaking, I was actually in here, but my understanding,
you just came in from outside.

Speaker 1 (02:14:03):
How bad is it?

Speaker 3 (02:14:04):
How bad is that?

Speaker 2 (02:14:06):
It's hot out?

Speaker 3 (02:14:06):
It's great?

Speaker 2 (02:14:07):
I mowed a little bit, isn't it great? Love it shirt?
Let's moe man? I love a good sweet shirtless mo.
I got to be up there Thursday though. It's going
to be much cooler, I think.

Speaker 3 (02:14:17):
And it's supposed to rain tomorrow, tonight or tomorrow and
cool things off.

Speaker 2 (02:14:21):
Right, Hey, let's guess who I'm going to get?

Speaker 1 (02:14:23):
Who do you think?

Speaker 2 (02:14:24):
Who am I going to get on the show Thursday?

Speaker 3 (02:14:27):
That's a good sire.

Speaker 2 (02:14:28):
Frankly, if it were a fever, I wouldn't get a
call back. But who I'm going to get from the Colts?

Speaker 1 (02:14:33):
Hold on?

Speaker 3 (02:14:35):
Let me let me get a call back from the fever.
Let me name an entity and you tell me if
you get a call back, you ready fever? Fever never?

Speaker 2 (02:14:42):
Pacers only if I call Chad Yukanon himself or Ryan Carr.

Speaker 3 (02:14:47):
Okay, Indy Car.

Speaker 2 (02:14:51):
Only if I call at the right time for them
to pick up the phone. NFL, the Colts will, Yeah,
the Colts abs a little NASCAR only Joey Logano calls in.

Speaker 3 (02:15:04):
Okay, So is it just me?

Speaker 2 (02:15:06):
Is that what happens isn't me? They just don't want
to come along with me.

Speaker 3 (02:15:08):
Well, Matt Painter, Matt Painter, I can call him Mike Woodson.

Speaker 2 (02:15:12):
Now we'll say this.

Speaker 1 (02:15:13):
I don't think Purdue.

Speaker 2 (02:15:14):
You guys struggle with Purdue other than me with Painter?

Speaker 1 (02:15:17):
Right?

Speaker 2 (02:15:17):
Is that true? Is Purdue tough?

Speaker 3 (02:15:20):
Good luck with I've always had good luck with Purdue.
That's the key.

Speaker 2 (02:15:24):
That is the key.

Speaker 3 (02:15:24):
You know this too.

Speaker 2 (02:15:25):
The key is to just hopefully have.

Speaker 3 (02:15:27):
Has anybody talked to the new India basketball coach?

Speaker 11 (02:15:32):
No?

Speaker 1 (02:15:32):
One?

Speaker 2 (02:15:33):
And I'm trying to get Mendoza on. I've been trying
to do that for two weeks. I'm kind of waiting
on that deal. All we all get really high in Mighty,
don't we. We all get high and mighty, and hey,
you know, we've got a lot of stuff going on,
and then when crap hits the fan and we're not
very good, right, you know, we're.

Speaker 3 (02:15:52):
Trying to call me. What is on the Big Show today?

Speaker 1 (02:15:55):
John?

Speaker 2 (02:15:55):
The Big Show Today? We got Greg who is back
from Iceland finally, so we'll talk. It's weird, right because
high school basically gets back into action this week, so
we're not too far.

Speaker 3 (02:16:07):
Feels like the summer July still, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (02:16:10):
Yeah, it's Joey Logano diad call Felix did not. I
saw that Felix was busy, and then I was told
by Felix's people that maybe if I'd give them more time,
Felix should run to the payphone to answer it if
one of our shows calls him.

Speaker 3 (02:16:27):
Felix Roseen Quest, you're talking about it.

Speaker 2 (02:16:29):
I like him a great deal, and then you should
get on a step stool and reach up and grab
the phone and talk.

Speaker 3 (02:16:36):
And he's from Sweden, so doesn't matter if it's two
o'clock in the Still.

Speaker 2 (02:16:40):
I love him too, But Dan, you got to have
better people around you.

Speaker 1 (02:16:43):
All right.

Speaker 3 (02:16:44):
John's up next with this Buckop Bruce shirt. We'll be
back with you noon tomorrow. Thanks for listening to Quarrying Company.

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