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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Yo, what is up? Boys? How's it going? And welcome
back to another episode of the Rant Cafe Anime podcast.
Today we are talking about anime that we made each
other watch, Recon What up? Welcome in?
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Yes, yes, yes, hello. It's great to be back for
another round of suffering with the boys. But I wouldn't
say it's too much suffering this week because we actually
watched some decent anime.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
Yeah, and you recommended Gamers. We're to talk about that
in the second. You recommended Gamers. Jordan the anime dude?
What's up? Man?
Speaker 3 (00:30):
Yes, sir, what up? Everybody excited to be here. It's
a good Saturday. I'm happy. Hell yeah, it was a
good week.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
And you recommended an anime movie. You recommended The Colors Within, Yes.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
Sir, The Colors Within twenty twenty four.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
And I recommended a show called Kaiba from two thousand
and eight, a little bit weird. I wanted, I like, what,
I'm recommending anime that is gonna trip recon out. Which
anime do you guys want to start with today?
Speaker 3 (00:57):
Well, first we just got to have the disclaimer in
there not be Yes, there was no Blue Eyes in
this series. I was vastly disappointed.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
Unfortunately, No Blu was Yeah, we could start with gamers.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
I want to hear kind of what Briggs has to
say about that one.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
I like it, I like the characters. I think it's funny.
It also sucks. I feel like it's a good anime
that sucks. Does that make sense? So the main character,
he's a gamer, but he enjoys gaming like for the
sake of gaming in a way, like he just enjoys
like the little things, the backgrounds, the synopsises, like he
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enjoys the little things with gaming. And then there's this
super popular girl that invites him to a gaming club
and they're super serious. They like they're super serious like
fighting game, then with like basically playing CSGO and trying
to like play competitively, and he just like, no, I
don't want to join, even though like she's super like
most popular girl, super hot whatever, like you you would
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think you would love to join, And in his head,
he's like, I would love to join, and then she
says would you like to join? He's like, no, I's
played game for fun. I want to play a mobile game.
And one of like the characters that I really like
is him and that other boy can't remember his name.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
I think it's Ouahara or something to that effects.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
Yeah, I have a character list here, but they don't have.
It doesn't help. So a'mino is the main guy. Guy, dude,
where the fuck are sorry?
Speaker 2 (02:27):
I'm bro just pull out mouth mal or something.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
Anyway, the romance between the two guys and them gaming
in the arcade, and even that character's relationship with his girlfriend,
I think it's a highlight of the series. Jordan, what
do you think.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
I'm very biased already because I've I've seen this whole
series before, but I will say the start is probably
my favorite part of it. It's a hidden gym if
there ever was one. As far as I think, I
like this series more than most people. But it's like
a love letter to gaming man. There's a lot of
references in it. And then, uh, you know, I'm gonna
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go off on a bit of a weird tangent here,
but stick with me because there's three names I think
will kind of dictate my opinions on this podcast. One's
uh Yuasa Yamada and then for this one O Kamoto.
So you know, I'm a pretty big mushoku guy, right,
and I do like the novels for Mushoku. I think
that those are good. But like season one was just
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really brought to life. A lot of people say it
was directed really well, and the director for it, you
know Okamoto, this was like his debut or directorial debut,
right was Gamers, and he really just kind of you
just kind of are dropped in the very middle of
everything kind of going on, all the craziness, all the chaoticness.
Right at the very start of episode one. It's like
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one of my favorite starts to an episode one. And
then it's like one of my favorite episode ones in
anime because it sets up all the tropes. It sets
up all the cliches that you would normally see in
some type of like sports, you know, competitive thing, Like
it sets up it's gonna be like some type of
esports anime, right, and then it's just not. At the
very end, it throws the old curve ball. It's like, nope,
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he's just he's love with gaming at it's at its core,
right that at the very base level, he's just living
his best life. And I don't know, it's it's a
fun series overall. I think it can be a bit
repetitive as it goes on. It is just misunderstanding is
the anime. But a lot of character dynamics that are
kata chaotic and twisty and whatnot. But uh but those
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first three episodes man so good, so good.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
Again, not really my type of anime. But also I
feel like I did want to watch more and it
did entertain me. It was like you said, I feel
like it might get repetitive, but for the first three episodes,
I think it was fine. And yeah, the guy's name
is Uda Hada or something like that, and Domino the
main guy, and their little romance I liked. But also
Uhara or Tsuku Uhara, his pink haired girlfriend that like
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liked him before he like made the transformation into who
he is, liked him like initially was super wholesome. I
like that. Yeah, Misunderstanding is the anime for sure.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
Yeah, and it's it's weird because like the character dynamics
as like funny as they are in like a surface level,
because you know, there's a lot of surface level jokes
that are haha, funny, YadA, YadA, I'm gonna in that
first episode, even he doesn't quite realize why at first,
but he's being very true to himself whenever he does
turn down the game club invite, because like, I'm the surface,
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you know it, besides everybody else in there being a
main character that's a funny thing in and of itself,
Like the guy that joined with him is like, yeah,
I got amnesia. The only thing I remember is being
really good at that puzzle game. And uh, and the
girls like, you know, I'm trying to save my friend
from the dark side, and other you know, the CSGO
guys like yeah, I was trained from the like from
a young age by my father in the military to
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be really good at CSGO. So they're all funny in
and of themselves. But uh, but he's true to himself
whenever he turns that down. And then we see Orhara
in that second episode kind of with his sense of self,
like he's trying to have a new image in his
high school life. He's being very uh, I guess, shallow
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and a lot of the things. He's kind of with
the way he's approaching a lot of things. And the
end of the episode where he realizes that like his
feeling his girlfriend's feelings for him were from before those changes,
like they were from whenever he was the side of
himself that he isn't quite as proud of the gamer.
He fell in love with his girlfriend after going out
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with her for six months, and that just warmed my heart.
I don't know why that's.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
So cute a wild thing to say. Yeah, he fell
in love with his girlfriend once finding out like that
she liked him way before after dating her for six months.
Why did you make us watch this anime?
Speaker 2 (06:44):
I just thought, because you guys are gamers, and.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
You know what. There are references they played CSCO. I
saw some like mobile game references, some Dark Souls references.
I think some Street Fighter references, little things here and there.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Honestly, it has a lot of gaming references, all that stuff.
That's why it's called gamers. But in general and all
the whole show, it is kind of like pretty much
misunderstandings of the animation mixed in with some gaming references.
But it's not bad.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
It's fun. I liked it.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
I feel like if you've seen a lot of anime,
the way it like plays around with your expectations of
what is become is is very fun. Doesn't take yourself
too seriously. But like like I said, it sets up
all those things where I would have been down for
an anime that was like an esports anime where there
are training to compete and stuff like. I would have
been so down for that. It sets up what would
have been a pretty cool anime, and then it just
goes a different direction but still makes it work.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
So I think there.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
Is there is an esports it's a it's a donghold.
I don't know if you want to watch Chinese animation.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
But I find it. I'm recommending that for next week.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
It's called It's called King's Avatar. I don't know if
you guys watched it, but it is amazing the King's Avatar.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
All right, look that up. We might need to watch that,
The King's Avatar. There's a high score girl esports anime. Okay,
I might have to recommend some of these esports anime
next week. What do we do three esports anime next week?
Speaker 3 (08:09):
Yeah, it is a Chinese one and I think I
don't know what it is. It's one I haven't seen yet,
so true.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
You know.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
Also, Tendo English voice actor is the same person who
did mor Attendant m Tempest, and it was tripping me
out the entire series really well, I didn't even.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
Know that I feel you Amano is the same person
that does Going Freaks from Hunter Hunter. So, like I
just heard going a lot of the like once you
see that, like you can't un here unhear.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
It's so much misunderstandings and this bullshit.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
Like you're cheating me, you're cheating on me.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
I love how it foreshadows it too, but it doesn't
ruin it, Like it literally says, you know, it's introducing
tendo and whatnot. It's like she's gonna fall. And then
like by the end of that second episode, she literally
like slips on a banana peel and falls or whatever,
and it's like, uh, she fell, and he's like making
fun of am and calling him a loser. He's like,
you know, that loser doesn't understand, like you know, would
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just like to have a hot girlfriend. And it's like
later on that that loser is gonna have a lot
of secret meetings with that hot girlfriend. Like it's like
it tells you what's gonna happen, but it still makes
it good, right, like it I don't know, you know
where it's going.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
Okay, let's go ahead and talk about the movie that
Jordan recommended. What was it called again The.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
Color colors within Keemi no Ero.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
So the colors within it was like a high school students,
like a Catholic boarding school or whatever, like a Catholic
school where like it's an all girls school there's nuns
or whatever, and somehow she sees emotions as colors, like
she sees people via I think she's autistic. I don't,
I don't, I don't know. That's what I said. I thought,
I called him. I thought, I thought it like the
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first thirty thirty seconds of the anime. But when you
mix relationships and friendships and music with this little thing
where she sees them and people with colors, it's kind
of a beautiful thing. G Recon. What are your thoughts
before I dive into my opinions on it.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
Well, I thought it was a decent movie, to be honest.
I like the concept of this girl that can see
colors and can see people's emotions through colors, but whatever
it is, you know, happy, sad or anything. And then
she meets a girl who played music that gives off
and she gived off the brightest color and that's what
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attracted to her, That's what she was attracted to the most.
And then they form a band and whatever and they
start playing and then forming friendships and all that. So
it's a simple story, very simple concept. But overall, I
think the way it did it, like the execution, it
was good. Animation was solid. Yeah, but again nothing too special,
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nothing crazy. I'm like, yeah, it's like, you know, calm,
relaxing one watching it, like, yeah, that's cool, it's all right.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
Yeah, I will say it was. It did drag a
little bit, like it felt a little slow at times.
I'm like, Okay, let's let's get this going a bit
because I'm like, I'm liking it, but maybe not like
loving it. But I did have like a nice, heartfelt,
felt ending, a beautiful concert at the end. Some of
the songs were bangers, like. It has a lot of
good things going forward, and I think it's a solid
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anime movie. But I will say I did find myself
a little bit bored at times with certain like areas
of the pacing.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
That's that's I don't agree where that a little bit
of a boring movie.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
Sheer Abacco Last Week is still to my this day like,
but I think one of the most stressful anime out there.
So I had to just think of the opposite I
just watched this movie. Yeah, it's very very relaxed, like
just had a smile on my face, right, wholesome is
not too much drama, not too much of anything really,
So it's just some good music, some good times, et cetera.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
Cool but all right, anything anything else? Want to add
recon about colors within before Jordan tells us like why,
I mean he already kind of said why you want it?
Speaker 2 (12:06):
No, nothing, it's not really much to add to it.
It's very simple and it's a bit repetitive, but it's
not bad. There's nothing really too much to dive into it.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
I think one of the nuns was a highlight character,
like just a solid character, a solid role model, good influence,
like helping her out, helping our main girl out in
like ways that you wouldn't expect a nun to do,
which was nice to see, Like she just cared. She
was just a good person that cared versus being like
crazy strict or crazy religious in certain ways. And her
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color was like pure like yellow and gold, which is
nice versus the girl that our main character meets immediately
or initially was blue. And did we ever did was
she ever ended up being able to see her own color.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
Or you know, I don't think so no, nothing specific,
but you know, the scene colors thing is, uh, it's
a bit of a weird part tangent kind of the itself.
It's uh. It kind of made me worry a little
bit for the main character. I'm like, oh, that's that's cool.
She's definitely special in some way. But but god, I guess,
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let me let me guide you guys down a little
bit of a of a tangent here, all right, Okay, So,
so while I brought up the mushoku director for for Gamers,
this one was directed by Naoko Yamada. So this was
like her kind of original film that she spent a
lot a lot of time on. She spent over a
decade over at Kyoto Animation.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
Well did she do?
Speaker 3 (13:31):
So the first thing she did, like episodes of was
was clinod But like after that, the first thing she
directed was Chaon so you know that made me think
of Briggs and then uh, after that she directed a
silent voice. So you know, I love the mom silent voice,
but like very much her.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
So, like she does some other things, but those would
be the ones that you guys are most probably familiar
with and uh kinski Ushio who did like the music
for this series also did the music for a Silent
Voice and you know a lot of other things. So
it's like very much had that a Silent Voice feel
in some ways, just way less dramatic and serious, but
but yeah, you know it's it's those some of those
same themes of like how sound and music and stuff
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affects the relationships between people. And the main character, as
big of a goofball as she is, as much as
she doesn't really fit into any type of typical uh
boxes or anything, she she has that same thing that
I think a lot of people have where they they
it's way easier to see the world and all the
other people in it than it is to look at
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yourself and be objective about yourself, right, So, like she's
able to appreciate all these aspects of other people, but
it takes them kind of coming together, forming these friendships
and relationships to kind of bring out that creativeness inside
of her, because she is a very unique little goofball,
Like she cracked me up. She was a bit of
a sweetheart. But I don't know, It's just a cute
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little film overall.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
It would have been nice. I think a good ending
or an addition to the ending, as like while she
was playing the music, or like even dancing at the
end or whatever, if you was able to like emit
her own color or see her own color, like realizing
who she is or discovering herself a little bit more,
I think at ending like that could have added some.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
Value, potentially, potentially, I will say the concert overall banger alright.
It had everybody up and up and moving so uh,
and they'd readd all the songs in like English and
stuff too, So I do like the Japanese version a
little bit more. Maybe that's just because I heard it first,
but like, and I don't like the English lyrics quite
as much. But uh, but they did a good job
in like both versions of like just having a having
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the songs kind of be their own thing.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
Right, So guys, what did you guys think of Kaiba
two thousand n eight. We're forgetting to write the shows
by We'll do that. Okay, let's do that now. So
for the colors within, I'm gonna give you like a
seven point five.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
I'll give it a I'll give it a six.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
Okay, what about gamers, I'm gonna I'm gonna give the
Killers within an eight point five and Gamers like a
seven point five seven point five for Gamers based on
those first three episodes, I think price seven or six
point five overall, but like, I love those first three
episodes of Gamers.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
Yeah, I think we'll give Gamers like a seven or
like a six point eight six point nine for like, Yeah,
the first three episodes. I did watch a fourth and
fifth by myself as well. Afterwards.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
It was nice, let's go.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
I'm enjoying it. I'm enjoying it. I like that we
do this every week. I apologize for missing last week.
Life just gets busy sometimes, but we should be good
to go for next week as well, hopefully if you
guys are both available. But Kaiba always available. Hell yeah,
Kaiba childlike animation but like with like some mature themes
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and tones or whatever. What did you guys think of it?
Speaker 2 (16:44):
Holy shit breaks? This is the most cartoon network as
an anime that I've ever fucking watched.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
But it's not cartoon, but it's not childish child all.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
This doesn't look like an anime. It looks like something
out of Cartoon Network.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
It's a studio madhouse.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
I mean, the character designs themselves are very simple. But
because of that, like the animation is a very fluid.
It's kind of like mob Psycho in that way, right,
Like it it looks really good, but yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
I want to go before before Jordan goes.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
Honestly, to me, this looks like some generic shitty cartoon
network as anime, but it is so confusing, Like half
of the time, I don't even know what the hell
is going on. It's so weird, the animation, everything in
the setting. It's like it's unique, but it's so weird.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
It's like we'll say it's a little it's weird but
also a little chaotic in the In the beginning, it's understand,
but it gets a little bit easy episodes go on.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
It's like there's people living at the top, like the
rich people at the top, and then the poor people
at the bottom. It's like, what is even going on?
Like why is there like some ranking status of people
living up top in the bottom? Like, I don't know,
it's just so chaotic. It's it's it's wild. It's crazy,
but it's unique at the same time. But I don't know.
I'm not too big of a fan of the animation
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in the style because it just reminds me of Cartoon Network.
Like when I'm watching it, it's like I'm not even
watching an anime. I don't know why.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
Fair Jordan, So, you know, speaking of directors, I know
this is like the trifecta. This is a director I've
never seen anything from, but I've heard a lot about
because he's very unique in his approach to things ol
Uasa and I've heard it not only like when there
is dialogue it's like very fast, it's almost like hard
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to follow even a lot of sub enjoys or like
I had to like maybe watch that at like twenty
seven five time speed that you even catch everything that's
being said. And then there's a lot of times where
like it's not saying anything, it's just showing, and uh
it does not hold your hand, Like I feel like
this is probably most up my alley very the recon
and like for the first two episodes, I'm like, I
have no idea what's going on? Like I So I
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did watch four episodes total, and like episodes episode three
I like the lot, and then so four I love
like it. It kind of broke me a little bit,
but uh, so I see how.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
Ending of episodes three and that's before is pretty fucked up.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
Yeah, it's I feel like it's one of those where
I even knew going in not to like just look
at the literal, to try to like read a little
bit deeper on what it's trying to say, and even
then it's a little bit hard to follow. I feel
like this is one where I'd probably appreciate it more
if I finished it and then like maybe like revisited
like parts of it just to like make sure I'm
fully understanding and following, because there was times when in
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those episodes where I like, I catch something and I'm like,
I gotta go back real quick, but like make sure
I'm understanding this right. But uhuh, it's very much shown up.
Tell it's like you.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
Have to use your brain fully when watching this.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
I'm like I can't.
Speaker 3 (19:45):
I can't.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
Just our main character or our main guy. He wakes
up with no memories, so he's as just in the
dark as we are to this world and the system
at play. So it's like there's no one to baby
you and kind of like how you what's going on
because our main guy has no fucking clue. In the
same way, we have no fucking clue. So as certain
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like you see like the class, the class division, or
like the memories and identity, and like the fact that
people are selling their their bodies off, but like storing
their memories and other things. People are selling their their
sad memories, their happy memories. They have like boxes of
like people's like identities and like souls based not even souls.
I don't know what the word is for it, but basically,
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imagine like your body right now, if you could extract
everything that you know and your personality and all your
memories and put in a little like fucking USB and
then like your body is like kind of like expendable
in a way, and then it's like go ahead.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
It's like a separation of like both body and soul.
And then also like memories, it's like a trifecta in
air that like trinity that it keeps showing and whatnot.
So it's it's like what is the individual at that time?
Speaker 1 (20:51):
Right? It's so technically someone who has a lot of
money could buy bodies and just keeps on living on forever. Right,
And then you see the crazy easy darkness of the world,
how fucked up things get with a system like this
people are kidnapping people, and like, I don't even I honestly,
like the first two episodes watched the whole thing. I've
watched it. I've watched the sentiment before. It's a long
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time ago, so I don't really remember it. But yeah,
you have like him trying to figure out what's going on,
and like with his memories, you get the reveals of
the world, but you also there's no like you see
the locket with the girl, so you know there's something
going on with that. But then there's also these like
little along the way, you get these like subplots of
other characters where like this one mom would work really
really hard for like like her sister's kid to like
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keep her body, and like eventually she's couldn't keep it
up anymore, and it was a really sad I can't
I don't know if I could describe it well, but
it was really sad, like to see her struggle and
kind of have to like let the daughter go. In
a way.
Speaker 3 (21:53):
I didn't quite even know what to make of that
episode and episode three, because like part of it was
like it wasn't her kid, right, so she wasn't willing
to go that extra mile for but.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
Like did for a while for a while.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
You find that afterwards. Yeah, so it's like I had
mixed feelings on that, but that girl also was willing
to give up everything for and she I guess they.
I didn't like the gradual approach of like they got
rid of her memories prior to those new boots or whatever,
and then she like was willing to like so how
much of that is really her, like even deciding to
sacrifice herself right thereafter, and she's like, yeah, they'll get
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me a new body like next week or whatever. And
it's like, no, that that's not gonna happen. You were,
you were fvoting up into that ether. You're part of
a collective. Now it's like a collective up there. But
it's also they still retain that individuality of like they're
still separate, right, So it's a it's a very unique world.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
And then our main character ended up with her body, right,
Our main character ended up with her body.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
I don't know if that's going to be an ongoing thing,
but Kaiba has like swapped into like a new body
basically almost every episode up to this point. I guess
not an episode four but like, yeah, it is uh like,
we don't even know if the body were starting out
with is the original body, right, I have a theory.
I could be way off here, but like the twin
tails in the uh in the locket, I think that's
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probably Kiba's original body. Wow, But I could be wrong there,
I could be wrong. That could just be way off.
But uh, I do know that in that first episode
it was like blurry and then we see like later
on it's not so like the blurry iness isn't literal.
It's like things are becoming more clear as Kaiba like
gains experience and interactions with the world. I don't know,
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it's it's a very weird thing. So the world itself
is so unique and interesting and whatnot. And the best
way I think to approach world building is is whenever
you learn about the world with the main character or
alongside them, which I think is the strength of why
we've seen so many amnesic trope or tropes h out
there in storytelling. And then uh, I think isakaies get
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too much flack for this as well, because while it's
been overdone as hell, that's a cool way to learn
about a new world. Is alongside that main character, right,
while they also have nothing no knowledge of it, so
a lot of it's kind of brushed or breezed along,
like we're never gonna probably go explore the depths of
every single aspect that uh we see in the show.
It's going so fast. But god, it was interesting. It
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was a lot. It was a lot.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
It was a lot for me to take in. And
I don't understand ship.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
What do you guys want me to do? We'll say
the first episode and a half, it's kind of hard
to understand what's going on.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
So and I also watched this on Speed to too.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
Yeah, well that one that's hard to watch times. To
be honest, I talked and they show a lot of gume.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
I just try to watch to Tommy Galaxy by the
same director, and they say, like they just can't do
it because like they talk so fast that trying to
keep up with like the subs and stuff is too much. Like, man,
some of the stuff that this guy's done, like I
kind of saw it in this. I'm like, I almost
want to turn this down too point seven five times
speed just where I can take it in and like
keep up right because it, like I said, everything happens
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so fast.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
I tend to be an advocate for like it's okay,
Like I watched the called Within at one point twenty five,
Like it's a slight increase. I think it helped with
the experience sometimes when things are slow. But I will
say with Kaiba with one that I watched at normal
speed because you miss it's hard to keep up and
understand what's going on. Rica watching on two is crazy.
Speaker 3 (25:19):
Dude, at that point, it probably doesn't just look like.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
I have originally attention span.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
By the way, oh, this TikTok generation, man, all these
YouTube shorts ruining people's attention span. I like the slowness
of some of these old anime. I don't watch shorts
unless they're cat videos on Instagram.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
But all right, what do you guys want to rate
Kailat out of ten for the first three or four episodes,
whatever you watch. I'll give this.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
One a four.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
Boo. This one's hard because I don't think I would
give it that highlight rating either. To be honest, I'd.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
Probably give it like a six based on these first
three or four episodes. But I can see myself loving
it once I see like the entire package and like
what it's overall trying to say, but it is kind
of just hard to follow on this, so like if
I'm judging just that, like it's hard to have a
complete opinion, right, like even me trying to regurgitate my
thoughts on it, it kind of comes out as like
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a mishmash of all these different things because there's so much.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
But one I do like the the art style is
because it's such a different like contrast to what's actually happening,
which I thought maybe Recon might like, but clearly not.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
It's very fluid, like it is very well animated that
early two thousand's Madhouse or whatever.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
But I'll give it. I'll give it like a six
point five out of ten or like a six point
like six ish. Whatever. Do you guys know what you
want to recommend for next week? We've got berzerk Oh
fuck I probed Berserker episode seven or.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
On seven No. Six seven e No. Seven eight nine,
seven eight nine.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
All right, seven Recon you start off first, for sure,
it was good. Up the story.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
It's it's it's a little bit slow for seven eight nine,
but I like where it's going, introducing us a little
bit more to the characters. Costca is still super upset
with Guts because you know there she's blaming him that
Griffith got hurt, and yeah, she's just being that sundery girl.
Is she eats Indury.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
I don't know what she is.
Speaker 3 (27:26):
She's She's just Costca.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
She's you know, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
She could be a little to ask. Sometimes, she could
be a little bit yon today ask, sometimes a little
bit cool today ask. Sometimes I feel like her her
personality changes depending on who if she's talking to Griffith
or Guts, or what's going on currently in the story
with like from battles is Guts, is Griffith hurt? Did
he get hit with an arrow? Did he like or
did Guts do?
Speaker 2 (27:52):
She's stupid, super worried about Griffith all the time. Whenever
he gets hurt, or whenever he's with Guts and he
gets hurt because of Guts, she gets really upset because
you can kind of see the pattern that she really
likes him.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
Yeah, so I want to stay here real quick, Ricon,
I like that you pointed out that it's a little
bit slower these episodes kind of building up to stuff
right now, Like at the lasting three, I think Griverth
got like knighted, but now he's become a count. And
this little band of the Hawks, this mercenary group is
kind of making a name for themselves beyond just being
(28:27):
mercenaries but rather people of influence and power. And you
know certain there's certain moments even like Griffith is about
the hit by an arrow and like he like it's
like deflected by the bee Hellett the fucking I think.
So it's building up right now, it's building up. We
have some tool fight scenes, some dramatic moments, but this
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is definitely a build up right now.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
This is definitely more of a build up. And then
we go towards the Hawks than raiding another castle, and
it's like you see Guts in action and he's like
swinging his sword.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
It's so bad.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
And then the general in the end, like he just
jumps abandoned ship sails on a raft and they're like
his minions are like take us with your commander, please.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
And he's just kicking them off because you survive yourself.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
I'm out of here.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
So are you liking it?
Speaker 2 (29:15):
It's funny as though I love it, man, I really
loved it. I did not think I would like this
but it's really good. Yeah. And then episode nine.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
We go back to a little flashback. Can you guys
hear the music?
Speaker 3 (29:28):
No?
Speaker 1 (29:28):
Okay, good rigne go ahead flashback.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
And then we and then in the episode nine we
get a flashback of Zod talking about Griffith's amulet and
it's like it started to get somewhere. And then when
we get shot with a poison arrow, that's when it's like,
that's when I see the reveal. This amulet is protecting
Griffith from death somehow. It's like, I don't know how.
(29:53):
I don't know how, I don't know why, but I
don't know where he even got it from, but it's
protecting him from dying.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
I think that she saw a little flashback of someone
giving him the amulet, like an old lady.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
Did we I don't even remember seeing that, I think.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
So I'm glad. But anyways, yeah, I'm glad. Despite the
old art style, he is li like in Berserk, which
is great to see. Let's go, it's huge.
Speaker 3 (30:19):
A lot of the beams of Berserk just happened to
do with uh, with fate and causality itself, right, So
like that's something that was kind of established early on,
and like you said, it's it's like that thing's keeping
him alive right as far as uh walk in the
arrow and things like that, So it's like he's hated
to be alive and in that in that way is
how you I guess you could read that. But uh, yeah,
it's still so early, like we haven't seen anything. It's
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definitely in the build up stages at this point.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
So yeah, those were taking to build them mm hm.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
Anyways, like next week, we're definitely gonna watch UPSO ten, eleven,
and twelve of Berserk, but it's also time for us
to recommend our anime for next time. Jordan, I you
said you had something in mind. Would you like to
go first?
Speaker 2 (31:02):
Oh boy, Jordan, please make it good.
Speaker 3 (31:04):
I can, but so make it good. This last week
was what was supposed to be good for you, all right,
we went with pretty visuals. You know it was Oh no,
it wasn't CGI, It wasn't any so so that now
I can go back to other stuff, right, Oh no,
like Chinese anime next week?
Speaker 1 (31:23):
Chinese anime.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
Well, I've watched a lot of them.
Speaker 3 (31:27):
Okay, this is when I can almost guarantee you haven't
because I want to watch it. But it's so so
on top of my anime list. I guess. I don't
know what it is on there, but I usually keep
track of my anime on a psye called analist, and
on there you can like see how many people have
like watched or or read a series, or like how
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many people are watching or have read a series. I'm
gonna see if I can find this on my anime
list real quick, just because I'm curious. But on anti
list it's like less than a thousand people. This is
very then.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
Yeah, I never watched that one.
Speaker 3 (32:02):
It has two hundred and forty three users that have
ranked it on uh on my anime list, and I've
never seen it. I want to see it. So Ringing Fate.
So it's by the director that did a link click
and and I two hero X. So it's by the
same director, And I think, yeah, so it's the same director.
(32:24):
It's available on I think on YouTube. It's a Chinese anime.
I I haven't seen it. I've seen a couple of
scenes and clips from it that I want.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
To see it.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
What is the Chinese title called?
Speaker 3 (32:35):
Oh God? I don't know men Kyun Kwan tai.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
Okay, But watching this looks This looks interesting.
Speaker 3 (32:48):
The Battle of the Niche. This is like the most
It's probably be one of the most niche things even
I've ever watched, just from how few people have actually
seen it.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
So this looks interesting.
Speaker 3 (32:56):
I've put it off up to this point, but this
is going to be my excuse to actually try it out.
Speaker 1 (32:59):
So nice. Hmmm, what should I recommend? I was good
at I had some an idea for this week already,
but now now I want to watch King's Avatar.
Speaker 3 (33:13):
Kings you said that was the esports from.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
There, Yeah, but I feel bad me and Jordan. It's
so fucking good.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
It's so fucking good.
Speaker 3 (33:25):
Alright, I'm down.
Speaker 1 (33:26):
I'm down for King's Avatar. Let's do some Chinese anime
this week? All right, what do you think? What do
you think? In Ricon?
Speaker 2 (33:36):
Have you guys seen this anime called Yo Boy Kong Ming?
Speaker 1 (33:41):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (33:42):
I have, Yeah, ship, Okay, it's actually great.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
It's actually a great so good.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
Dude, Okay, never mind.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
Hong Ming strategist from whatever era gets reincarnated into a
world and like starts rapping and being a fucking businessman.
It's hilarious.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
Hmmm.
Speaker 3 (34:02):
The strategist behind her.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
How will you recommend how will you recommend King Davatar
fro Us freak On?
Speaker 2 (34:12):
All right, you know what, sure, I'll recommend you.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
Guys came he fell for the trap. He fell for
the trap. Now that means I could give you the
anime I wanted you to watch, Freakon.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
Oh god.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
I mean it's not exactly I believe it's a Japanese anime,
but it does have Chinese characters in it. It's in
my top twenty anime of all time. Ping Pong the animation,
so that's the same person that did Kai Okay. Have
to promise me you're gonna watch three four episodes and
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don't speed it up. I mean you could do. It
looks ugly, but the animation is that looks so bad.
The animation, the actual choreography and movement itself is fantastic,
but also the story is actually really good on Please
give it a real Is there a.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
Story to this? It's just people playing ping Pong?
Speaker 1 (35:06):
Give it give it a real, genuine chance. Please. I
want to hear your authentic even if you need it,
I want to hear authentic feelings about it. Give it
a real chance.
Speaker 3 (35:16):
Please, As you saw again also is a very creative individual.
I've heard great things about Ping Pong. All right, I've
always wanted to check.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
You haven't watch kingle On the animation either.
Speaker 3 (35:25):
I haven't. I haven't, Oh my god, into anything you
want because it sounds like a lot. Okay, that's why
Kaiu was like the one that I was forced into it.
And now I know he's done this as well.
Speaker 1 (35:34):
Ping On I have not the overhype it, but is
in my top twenty and im you Jordan's going to
watch the entire thing before next week. I promise you
there's a zero for this is zero. I don't care
how busy your life is. You are going to finish
this anime. Ricon. I don't know, but you're going to
finish it.
Speaker 3 (35:52):
You know sports.
Speaker 2 (35:54):
I love that question to you. Guys. Have you seen
a Chinese anime or heard them talk like?
Speaker 1 (36:00):
Are you used to it?
Speaker 3 (36:02):
I've seen a little bit of a hero X and
then but uh.
Speaker 2 (36:06):
Yeah, but they speak Japanese. It's not it's not Chinese.
Speaker 3 (36:09):
I've seen clips from various Uh we watched Click, I
have not. I have not is director Click, which is
very good, but yeah, I have not seen it yet.
Speaker 1 (36:19):
Link Click is also a banger.
Speaker 2 (36:22):
Season.
Speaker 3 (36:22):
I'm waiting on more of that one because it's that one,
like it's gonna have a season three, right, Like I'm
not in a rush as much if I know what's ongoing,
and like there's gonna be more of it.
Speaker 1 (36:31):
Ping Pong is goaded, fucking goaded, all right.
Speaker 3 (36:36):
I feel like we had a pretty niche selection this
past week between the colors within Gamers and Kaiba, and
I feel like we were like, that was kind of niche.
But let's see how niche we can get. The King
Avatar Ringing Fate was it called? I don't even know
what the like? The one I recommend it is even.
Speaker 1 (36:52):
Called ringing Fate, Ringing Fate, ringing.
Speaker 3 (36:55):
And then freaking Ping Pong. Oh my god, Okay, I know.
Speaker 1 (36:57):
What is rated.
Speaker 2 (37:00):
So The King's Avatar has two seasons and it also
has a Netflix Live action.
Speaker 3 (37:04):
Maybe King's Avatar isn't niche. I don't know. I've just
never really heard it. I don't know, dude.
Speaker 1 (37:08):
Ping Pong the animation is rady at eight point six
y two on mal It's ranked number eighty seven.
Speaker 3 (37:13):
The people that watch Ping Pong love it, but I
just I don't know how many people actually watch it.
Speaker 2 (37:16):
It.
Speaker 3 (37:17):
I feel like it's gonna be like way lower in
popularity than it is, uh ranking.
Speaker 1 (37:21):
I wonder, So sixteen thousand people favored it scored by
almost two hundred thousand users. Okay, not bad. I don't
know it just there.
Speaker 3 (37:33):
It's like number six hundred in popularity, but it's like
number eighty something in rank for score, so like on
my anime list. So yeah, No, I've heard nothing but
great things about this. When I'm excited, I'm just avoided
up to this point.
Speaker 1 (37:44):
No, dude, it is because you asked. It's good, Dude,
it's fucking good.
Speaker 2 (37:50):
Maybe I'm going to start recommending you guys some good
Chinese enemy because there's.
Speaker 1 (37:55):
A lot of good ones.
Speaker 2 (37:57):
Have you guys also seen the Daily Life of the
more King?
Speaker 1 (38:01):
I have not. I don't know if I did.
Speaker 3 (38:03):
Okay, I've seen like twenty shows that probably sound very similar. Yeah,
I think I know what you're talking about, and I
like because it is the Chinese one, right, and I
have not seen that one.
Speaker 2 (38:11):
Yeah, it's it's also another top top tier Chinese animation.
Speaker 3 (38:15):
Okay, yeah, I might recommend that next time.
Speaker 1 (38:18):
I thought I watched it and then I realized I
didn't watch it, watch it. I don't know what. I
watched a different Chinese anime with a different immortal.
Speaker 3 (38:25):
There's like thirty anime with titles very similar to that.
Speaker 1 (38:29):
Okay, like if you read the Immortal King, Oh yeah,
go ahead, Sorry my bad.
Speaker 3 (38:39):
No, no, I was just gonna say, like, if you
ran it through a test that like said how similar
those titles are, the scores would be very high. So
I'm trying to think of what it's called the test,
but it's not important.
Speaker 1 (38:51):
Fair anyway, Sorry, I just had had to click something
for the For the recording, I hadn't mute to myself,
so hopefully the stream it was good to most most
of the time I made myself with the of the
audio in the background. But anyway, I'm super excited for
next week. This week was fun. Thank you guys so much.
It's good keep us watching anime and checking out different anime,
and it pushes Recon out of his comfort zone, which
(39:12):
I like doing, much like bra is gonna like ping Pong.
I think, so I don't know a lot of faith.
Speaker 3 (39:21):
And here he said, I wanna watch the whole thing.
Recon is gonna love it. Is some high bars your setting, Breeze.
Speaker 1 (39:27):
I know, I'm I. I don't want to overhype it,
but I think I watching over a nine out of ten.
Speaker 2 (39:33):
I'm watching because I'm genuinely so invested in, like what
is going on. Yeah, the animation, I don't know about that. Chief.
Speaker 3 (39:41):
Have you ever played ping pong?
Speaker 2 (39:43):
Of course I am. It's one of my because it
looks ugly.
Speaker 1 (39:49):
It looks ugly.
Speaker 2 (39:51):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (39:52):
I've never gotten more like into a sport than I have,
like a casual ping pong game. Okay, those things are serious.
You don't have drew, you don't play around there.
Speaker 2 (40:00):
Hey, listen, they used to call me the Prince of
table tennis.
Speaker 1 (40:03):
Shut up. Oh my goodness, that was hilarious. And on
that note, boys, check out Anime Recon on the YouTube.
Check out the anime Dude on twitch and YouTube and
other platforms. I hope you guys enjoyed, and we'll be
back again next week with some more love you gamers,
shimpock you and shimpocking next time Later.
Speaker 2 (40:26):
Bye,