4 Anime YOU Need To Watch!!

Briggs, Anim3recon, & The Anime Dude talk about four anime on Rant Cafe

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Yo, What is up? Boys? How's it going? And Welcome
back to another episode of the Rant Cafe Anime podcast
with Me. Today we have Jordan, the anime dude who
recommended Shiro Baco.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
What's up, guys, I'm excited for this week? Is gonna
be a good week.

Speaker 1 (00:14):
It was so funny. I was I was at work.
Your boy got a little side job for the next
two weeks, and I was like, what was Jordan's recommendation?
And I typed in anime about making anime and it
came up. I'm like, this better be the one he recommends.
And if it's not, that might actually be better, Like
it might be really funny if it's not. Oh, good Recon,

(00:39):
the King of Bad Taste, is with us today and
I actually kind of liked his pick. He recommended with
Storia wand and sowored.

Speaker 3 (00:46):
What up?

Speaker 1 (00:46):
Recon? How you doing?

Speaker 4 (00:48):
Let's go, man, Mopick is going to be the best
for this podcast. I'm not gonna lie because it is
just amazing.

Speaker 1 (00:55):
Yeah, well, we'll talk about it. We'll decide who's the best.

Speaker 4 (00:57):
No, we'll talk about it right now, we'll talk about it.

Speaker 1 (01:00):
No, I'm brigged. Welcome to the podcast. And I recommended
Ashita No Joe.

Speaker 2 (01:07):
I mean we can we can talk.

Speaker 1 (01:08):
About yours right right away.

Speaker 2 (01:09):
We want to say best for last? Do we want
to save best for first?

Speaker 1 (01:13):
I mean we're saving best for last. We'll do We'll
do a seta no Joe blast. Let's start off with.

Speaker 4 (01:18):
No no no no, no no no. We're starting with
the Sheeta no Joe. We're starting with the ship show
right now.

Speaker 2 (01:22):
Let's go. We're starting with the worst. We gotta go
with the storia. But you know it.

Speaker 1 (01:28):
Okay, okay, wait, what do you want to start with?

Speaker 2 (01:30):
You guys choose we can start with I don't, I don't,
god what you picked? Oh? No, pressure, with all the pressure.

Speaker 4 (01:38):
I think we should save best for last. So let's
just start with a Sheeta no.

Speaker 1 (01:41):
Ships, Shea no ship. So did it come out in
the seventies. It's a classic, Yeah, early seventies, And I
will say it obviously it is ugly, but I do
think it has some things that are just like really
like solid for it, especially given the time it was produced,
and it influenced so many anime we love today. It's

(02:01):
referenced in so many anime. But you guys are the
ones that are watching it for the first time. I've
watched it before.

Speaker 2 (02:08):
Hmmm, jump into it, Okay, I.

Speaker 1 (02:10):
Mean I briefly watched it before. I never actually like
finished all. However, there's like a decent amount of the
like seventy nine. Yeah, it was a lot, but I
kind of want to actually watch it all at some point.

Speaker 2 (02:20):
Same same anyway, Jordan, your thoughts, Well, I actually loved it.
I didn't expect to like it as much as I did,
just because I had actually tried to watch it once
prior a few years back, and I'd made it like
halfway through episode one back then and I just could
not get into it. Like you said, it's a bit
of an older animation style. They the animation actually looks

(02:42):
very smooth in some of those early fights like the
because it is all drawn, and it actually surprised me
with how good it was. But there are also a
lot of still frames and they're a little bit selective
with it and stuff. Right, So it's a it has
you can definitely tells its age, but I think it
it really holds up it better than I thought. Anyways.

(03:02):
It was it's an old anime from the nineteen seventies,
but it tells a story that takes place in like
nineteen fifties, so it's like a very bleak era, like
post World War two Japan. There's a lot of people
in poverty and and and Joe is this uh you know,
fifteen to sixteen year old kid that's kind of on
the streets and uh, you know, he he's kind of

(03:23):
a little shitter. I'm not gonna lie. In those first
three episodes, he's a running around scamming like he was
that era's version of Logan Paul, Like, yeah, he was hustling.
He was when everything he could to make an extra
buck there for a bit, but you know, he kind
of comes from nothing, so like it, I guess we
don't really have his backstory up at this point, but uh,
I don't know. It was it was good enough to
where at the end of episode three it was a

(03:44):
bit of a cliffhanger and I was like, I want
to watch it episode four, I have to, like and
I just kind of kept going for a bit, so
oh hell yeah, yeah, like I want to I want
to finish this one. Here here a.

Speaker 1 (03:53):
Very very similar situation as you, Jordan. I watched a
long time ago. I watched like a handful of episodes,
probably not over six, and I liked it. Yeah, he's
never continued and it is an older style that's a
little bit jarring and you need some patients with with
but I want to watch more, and that's why I
recommended it to kind of like refresh my memory and
start from the beginning. But before I give my thoughts

(04:13):
on what actually happened, I'm the one who recommended it.
Recon what did you think?

Speaker 4 (04:19):
Trash? I hate the animation, I hate the look, I
hate everything about it. But on a serious note, though,
it's just it's kind of very similar to a lot
of the boxing series I've watched, like Hajimo Ippo. Uh
but I'm still on third three episodes by the way,
and meg A Little Boxes. It's kind of the same
thing where you got like the weakling protagonist and the

(04:40):
actually no, Joe not a really weak He's not a
He's not a weakling. But it kinda did you watch
I did? I did it kind of It kind of
starts off, you know, with a similar vibe, with a
similar vibe because.

Speaker 1 (04:53):
Gives me meg A Little Box vibes a little bit.

Speaker 2 (04:55):
Yeah, yeah, he beat up twenty dudes, that had nine
n by himself.

Speaker 1 (05:01):
The thing is Joe how Joe is the scene when
when like the guy who wants to be the coach
or whatever and don pay I think his name is
How cool is it? After that fight, he like jumps
on him to protect his boxer, Like dom Pey is
kind of the goat.

Speaker 2 (05:14):
Oh yeah, he knocked his ass out. You get him
right in the chin? Yeah, could give him whatever starts boxing?

Speaker 4 (05:23):
That is true? Is the alcoholic guy.

Speaker 1 (05:25):
Yeah, I'd like to Joe Like evening Joe, Joe talks
ship like humiliates him and all this, and like I
feel like I can just see Dmpey as a character
in like twenty episodes having like the best development of
becoming such a good character. And I want to watch
more cause I feel potential at him.

Speaker 2 (05:43):
Don't don't get me wrong. I love him, not right
off rip. I was very iffy on those first two episodes,
but like after that, you see the links he's willing
to go to in order to uh, you know, kind
of do what's best for Joe and kind of push
him towards that path, like it is a little bit
selfish and that he's trying to live his stream through Joe.
But at the same time, like he sees that potential there,

(06:04):
he wants, you know, he doesn't want to see it's
go to waste street fighting in the slums, like he
he wants that to kind of live up to its potential. Right,
So it's, uh, you.

Speaker 4 (06:12):
Know what, Jordan, now that you mentioned that, Yeah, Joe
is weak because he's a street fighter breaks. If he
would you know face you know, actual boxers, he would lose,
he could, So he's considered a weakling just like training
proper training, don't know, Yeah, but these guys don't know

(06:34):
how to fight.

Speaker 2 (06:34):
I remember he's fighting weaklings.

Speaker 1 (06:36):
I don't know if it was episode three or episode four,
but I remember he runs into when he gets he
goes to like a detention center or whatever, like whatever
this place is, and he runs into people that are
actually strong and actually a little bit trained, and it's
a different it's definitely different than the delinquents on the street, right.

Speaker 2 (06:52):
And I haven't gotten to that point yet, but I
did watch episode four just to see that point where
he does get arrested, and man it it's one of
those shows where speaking of him training and whatnot, his
personality is way different than I kind of imagined. Because
when you say that, this inspired series like EPO and
a lot of the other sports series that come after,

(07:14):
Like EPO is a character that's diligent to a fault, right,
Like he is going to do his training to the
t and then maybe push himself a little bit too
far extra right, This old man pays him to train,
and he's like, yeah, if you pay me five, you know,
five hundred a day, I'll train. And then he just doesn't.
He goes and starts hustling on the side and doing
all this other stuff. He starts scamming.

Speaker 1 (07:35):
I don't remember him being such a little shit, to
be honest, when I watched it.

Speaker 2 (07:39):
Remember, I'm not gonna lie. That's part of what made
me really excited to watch.

Speaker 4 (07:44):
He talks later, he fists first, talk.

Speaker 2 (07:46):
Later, you know, yeah, like that, you know, he's a
straight thug. And but like I feel like the more
a character kind of starts in that way, and the
more satisfying it's going to be, and like the more
rewarding it's going to be to see them kind of
get to that straight narrow path where you know, where
he kind of imagines him being because hard work beats
talent when talent doesn't work hard. So it's like, you see,

(08:07):
he sees that talent. Now he just has to get
that talent to actually want it and to work hard. Right.

Speaker 1 (08:11):
So yeah, I've I've seen clips of him like in
the ring later on in the series and stuff like that,
and I can't. I want to get there. I feel
like you got to push through, You got to push
through and get there, you know.

Speaker 2 (08:22):
Well, I actually I don't know. It's it's weird because
there's a lot of anime nowadays where it's like, Okay,
this anime is about boxing, we're gonna rush to it.
We're gonna get to the boxing, we're going to have
it get to that point where we're in the sport
really fast, and it kind of blurs out a lot
of the rest of life. One of my favorite parts
about sports anime is when it kind of includes how

(08:43):
they got to that point, like their life all encapsulating.

Speaker 4 (08:46):
Right.

Speaker 2 (08:46):
So it's a it's very slow, it's a it's a
build up, but it's like it feels like that's kind
of intentional and it doesn't feel like that in a
bad way, Like we are getting the backstory of his
life and whatnot outside of boxing. Itf so like these
first three or four episodes doesn't even really feel like
a boxing anime. But I'm okay with that, like it's
you gotta let it build. I'm excited though, to watch more. Eventually,

(09:08):
I will watch more of this one.

Speaker 1 (09:10):
Maybe I misunderstood, but I think domps Dom pays and
end up being my favorite character. I could already tell,
But maybe I misunderstood. I thought like he was trying
to protect Like obviously he jumped on him to protect him,
But when he punched him out, wasn't that wasn't that
him punching him out so he would stop fighting these
guys with Yeah? Yeah, I was just like, did I misunderstand?
Like I know he's given him CT but like.

Speaker 2 (09:32):
No, no, no, percent, he was like he saw them
pull out knives. He doesn't want him to, like, you know,
ruin his life and ruin his career, like his body
career here and stuff. So you like he took the
lesser path of like just knocking him out real quick
and then like covered him with his own body, right
like it the the intentions were there, all right, You're
not wrong, You're not wrong. He does a good job.

Speaker 1 (09:55):
Oh we lost Jordan.

Speaker 4 (09:56):
Oh no, oh no Jordan, Jordan.

Speaker 1 (10:00):
I just yeah, Jordan's and Gent's been acting up. I
just want to also say there's a moment where he's
just like the second I saw you fight, I quit
alcohol cold turkey, like I'm committed to this type of thing.
And also Joe having someone that finally believes in him,
I feel like will eventually make an impact. Maybe not
right now because our boys still scamming and being a thug, so.

Speaker 4 (10:20):
Hustling scam and go down to the streets fighting people
and getting little bits and pieces of money here, so
that dump whatever the fuck is what was his name again,
dump it can can keep training him so he can
join him the World Class Boxing Championship and fight real
boxers and like ship like that and make his legacy

(10:41):
and career like, oh that sounds cool, but but with
trashy animation, trashy visual visuals, kind of crappy voice acting. Uh,
that really doesn't help at all, does it now, Brigo?

Speaker 1 (10:53):
I mean it's from the it's from the seventies.

Speaker 2 (10:55):
I think.

Speaker 1 (10:56):
Yeah, I'm the type that I'm the one, the type
that can get over a bad art style and animation.
I know you're not, and that's fine, but it shows
that you can sometimes you were able to do it
with Berserk nineteen ninety seven.

Speaker 4 (11:08):
Honestly, I'm gonna have to talk about BERZERI because that's
a different story. That is a fucking different story, and
I'm not gonna lie.

Speaker 1 (11:14):
Okay, we'll talk about that on a second. I do overall,
I agree with Jordan in regards to like the still
frame and the old start style. Very ugly at times,
art style, very ugly at times, but when the fights
are actually happening, because it's done in this all hand
drawn way, it's kind of very nice looking to see

(11:35):
the transitions and the frames of the punches and the movement.
I actually really appreciate that. And of course there's all
these still frames because everything is due. They don't have
the technology they do now, and I think with the
technology we have now, you think we would improve. But
a lot of the times we improve in some ways
and then take a couple of steps back in other
ways because they're we're cutting corners, like some of the

(11:58):
like this is from the seventies. There's no way that
some of the punches should look better than in twenty
twenty five, and they do. They actually do at times.

Speaker 4 (12:07):
Breaks even when you say we're like, the technology that
we have right now is greater, but like we still
get crappy anime.

Speaker 1 (12:15):
Yeah, I know, man, we still get shit because what
ends up happening is when we advance the technology, some
people are gonna use it to enhance their product, and
some people are gonna use it to speed run and
just cut costs and cut corners, and at the end
of the day, you can end up making a worse product,
but probably at a cheaper rate.

Speaker 2 (12:32):
Right.

Speaker 4 (12:34):
Yeah, But honestly, I would say this show reminds me
more of megalo Box than I gage it because megalo
Box Joe was like strong, he was strong, but and
but not as like strong as like the bigger boxers.
And then when he fights without gears, he proves he's
like he's like a different breed than anyone else. And

(12:57):
it's kind of I can kind of see similarities here
with to Know Joe, But overall I would prefer my
glove Box. So yeah, I would say for my overall thoughts,
it's it's me mid on the mid.

Speaker 1 (13:13):
Level, I think it's nothing amazing, just yet I'm excited
to try to watch some more. I I think I'm
with you on the mid just because it's so old.

Speaker 4 (13:22):
Yeah, but uh yeah, I just wouldn't continue it personally
for me. So from there three episode rule dropped. Thanks
for the recommendation, Yeah, no problem. Okay, so.

Speaker 1 (13:36):
Let's talk about your enemy a little bit here with
Storia and Sword. So for with story of Wand and Sword,
it does have the similarities. Everyone compared it to Marshall.
It's Mashal without the comedy because Marshall and One punch
Man come from a comedic standpoint to this type of thing.
While oh are we getting Jordan back?

Speaker 2 (13:58):
No, not yet.

Speaker 1 (13:59):
All this this one takes it very serious. It's about
a world. It's a fantasy anime. It's about a world
where basically magic is everything, and there's a magic academy.
And of course we have one guy who enters the
academy that can't use magic, but he is built different.
We didn't get to see him train or do anything.
He's kind of just really really strong, and I'm waiting

(14:22):
for the reveal on why he's so strong. And there's
different ways to kind of like pass the academy and
become the highest level, like wizard or whatever they call it,
what's it called Magia Vander And you could either get
a bunch of credits, pass your tests, or like develop
different magic. And basically what he's doing is he goes
into the dungeon and slices like monsters up to get

(14:43):
his credits and then like just pass all his like
ridden exams and he's getting through. And one of the
reasons why he wants to pass these things is he
wants to get to the highest level like the girl
that he loves from childhood.

Speaker 4 (14:58):
Yep, he wants to be at the top of the
Wizard Tower with her.

Speaker 1 (15:02):
And I feel this show, while it's like the opposite
of Joe in a way, I feel like it's super
generic at times and it's not really doing like writing
wise or certain things all that like well, but it's
gorgeously animated. The dub voice acting is top studio. Sorry
which studio it's which studio. Yeah, Like it's gorgeously animated

(15:26):
dub fantastic. Dub voice acting is so on point. Music
is on point, choreography is on point. Everything's on point.
And it just like mid not mid writing. It's just good.
Just like no, I have no issues but I'm not
like overly impressed in any way, but because it's like
so good in all these other aspects, it keeps me
engaged to watch more, and I am excited to watch more.

(15:49):
But it's very different. Everyone's compared to Mashow is very different.
Maschall comes from a comedic standpoint. This is very very
serious or much more.

Speaker 4 (15:56):
Yeah, yeah this is This is more serious, but it's
on the same concept of Mashall. You know, both of
them have characters that can't use magic, but they still
got into the academy. So Will got into the academy
because his his scores are good in like the the
exams and written ship, but when it comes to the
practical stuff, he's kind of on the lower side of things.

(16:17):
But he's still got accepted to school because of his results.
And uh, Mashall, it's no.

Speaker 1 (16:24):
I think he accepted into school initially because they wanted
to get the other girl to join. But yeah, he
passed one of the tests by using like a knife
and blocking a bunch of fireballs and stuff.

Speaker 4 (16:35):
Okay, well, how did the Mashal get in?

Speaker 1 (16:37):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (16:37):
Yeah, because he passed the fucking entrance exam that yeah, yeah,
you passed bad.

Speaker 1 (16:43):
Yeah, he passed the interest exam.

Speaker 4 (16:45):
Yeah, by beating the ship out of that big boss
or whatever is.

Speaker 1 (16:49):
So freaking funny. It has all these funny moments where
all Jordan's back.

Speaker 2 (16:54):
Sorry, guys, now you're good.

Speaker 1 (16:56):
Okay, we kind of just finished up talking No Joe
while you were on, and I kind of said, I
agree with you. Where Like it's ugly at times, the
still frames are there because they don't have the technology
that they do have today, But sometimes the choreography of
the fights, because it's done by hand, it's almost better
than some of the punches I see throwing today, which
is crazy that with the technology that we have that

(17:17):
sometimes by cutting corners and just trying to get things
done quickly and with like a low without spending as
much money, that something from the seventies can have a
better choreographed looking punch.

Speaker 2 (17:28):
Yeah. Yeah, no, that's what I was. I was pleasantly
surprised by, like the actual fighting scenes in those first
two episodes one percent mm hmm.

Speaker 1 (17:37):
So we jumped into a story of Wanden's Sword and
I kind of just briefly gave a synopsis of what
happened and what it's about. It's a lot more serious
than Marshall, and it covers the guy who goes to
a school about magic and can only throw hands and
use a sword. He kind of we didn't see him train.
He just kind of is built different. So I'm excited

(17:57):
to see how he ended up becoming as strong as
he is today, or maybe a backstory about him being
like part dwarf for something. I don't know, but it's
one of those shows that like has al right writing,
I have no complaints, but it really has great animation,
great art style, great music, great voice acting that really

(18:18):
brings that okay writing that I have no complaints with
to the next level, keeping me wanting to watch, maybe
in the opposite way of Joe or Joe looked ugly
as hell, But I'm very intrigued by the characters, very
interested in where these characters are gonna go. I think
the writing in Joe.

Speaker 2 (18:35):
Is actually quite good.

Speaker 1 (18:37):
Did we lose did we lose him again? Maybe he
has to go no face cam, I have no fucking
clue is Jordan.

Speaker 2 (18:45):
I can hear you, guys, but can you hear me?

Speaker 1 (18:47):
Oh he's back, He's back. Maybe take off your face
can just to reduce any any issues.

Speaker 2 (18:52):
Oh is it? Is it lagging on the face your.

Speaker 1 (18:54):
Few froze for like twenty seconds there.

Speaker 2 (18:56):
Oh that's not good. Okay, I could hear you the
whole time. Cool, cool, all.

Speaker 4 (19:00):
Right, talk about your thoughts. What do you think?

Speaker 1 (19:02):
Yea historial wand and sword it It makes me, Uh,
it's just funny to me how you say it's like
pretty okay writing, because I had kind of the same thought,
like it, Uh, it's good, it's good.

Speaker 2 (19:17):
I actually have very few complaints about it, but it
seems like very kind of stereotypical and some of like
the cliches that's going for. And I kind of realized
why after episode one. So I realized it's the same
author as uh for the the White novels are done
by the same author as Au as Don MACI so
and after I saw that.

Speaker 1 (19:38):
I can likes so much sense it makes.

Speaker 2 (19:42):
Machi a lot. Yeah. So, like I defend Don Machi
all the time. I'm like, it's pretty okay. I got
this character. He has that one love of his life
that he already has his eyes set on, and every
other girl kind of SIPs for him as he as
he chases that Uh, you know, that love of his life.
He's in a dungeon. I wonder, I wonder.

Speaker 4 (19:59):
Who this relates to, Bell, Bell and Bell? Is that
you Bell?

Speaker 2 (20:04):
I like I like Belle, I like Will. They're both great.
But yeah, I found myself a couple of times in
like episodes two and three, asking like, is it wrong
to pick up girls in a dungeon or I guess
in the case of Wistoria, you know, and what an extent? Yeah,
those those are characters that are they're trying to pick
up Will in a dungeon, all right, Like he has
no interest in these uh these people that are simp

(20:24):
and for him, he has his eyes set on that
childhood friend, right. But uh, yeah, the world building is interesting.
There's a lot of kind of lore there in those
first three episodes, like everything's good and solid. It's like
nothing like like breath taking, like blows me away, but
like it's uh the uh, I feel like the production
value and stuff like more than make up for it's
like Don Machi with better production value.

Speaker 1 (20:45):
Yeah, is what it really is. I will say it's
so funny. I literally tweeted out one time that Don
Machi is the best mid anime I've ever watched.

Speaker 2 (20:54):
Yeah, it's like the most pretty okay thing. That's like,
I like it.

Speaker 4 (20:57):
Oh, you guys, what is the latest season of Don Machi?

Speaker 1 (20:59):
By any Actually, season four and five actually get really
good at times, or three and four, I don't know.

Speaker 4 (21:08):
The last two seasons that we had were like Chef's Kiss.
I'm telling you Chef's Kiss. It was so good.

Speaker 1 (21:14):
But for a while, I was saying, it's like the
best average anime I've ever watched, and I find it
it's so funny, And then you brought up this show.
It's just kind of all right, but I really like
it and I'm down to keep on watching. And you're
like the same author as Dad Machia. I'm like, it
makes so much sense.

Speaker 2 (21:29):
It clicks so hard, like it just makes sense. But like,
but also they include like one really good fight in
each of those first three episodes. I was invested. There
was a very few times that was not invested, like
the episode two fight where he has to fight Edward
or his his teacher and whatnot. Yeah, I'm like, it's
not fair for you to say the wand is mightier

(21:51):
than the sword if you don't let him use his sword.
But I was saying too, but that, but that girl
brought his sword just in the nick of time, just
late enough for him out to hear him monologuing about
his first love, but just soon enough to where he
doesn't lose right like right there in that perfect crevice.
It was great.

Speaker 1 (22:08):
I like that, Like he like fully rushed forward and
then jumped off the ceiling moment to break the defense
like the shield. I thought that was really cool. And
I will say Edward's like magic also looks really cool.
So it made for a good fight dark magic. The
actual choreography of him versus that like what the fuck
they called it looks like a centaur looking bo Baskerville

(22:31):
or something on like the Dungeons sixth floor. I think
the choreography of that fight how he dodged the sword
was kind of gorgeous.

Speaker 3 (22:40):
All right.

Speaker 4 (22:41):
So, as you all know that series like this, they
all have their bullies where they pick on the protagonists
because he's just the weakling. So what do you guys
think about Chion? Because I know you guys only probably
have only watched the three episodes, but as you continue on,
he's some of this. So what do you guys think
about she on? For now? After three episodes.

Speaker 1 (23:02):
Well, I didn't like him at first. I also didn't
fully understand until a little bit later why he disliked
Will so much. It was one of those things where
it's like it's not enough for me to succeed, he
must fail. But also it is understandable now where he's
It's like this guy keith On talking about becoming a
vander deck in magic user. What's it called majia Vander?

(23:22):
He about being a magia Vander, which is like so
many magic users try and fail and this dude's trying
to do it without magic. So it's just like it's
disinsulting to like other people's hard work in a way,
But at the same time, it's like why do you
care so much about what someone else is trying to
do and achieve and letting it affect you, Like imagine
like the teacher like that, the teacher Edward he was

(23:46):
he failed at becoming a magia Vander, So having a
student in his class that can't use magic being like
I'm gonna become one, I'd be annoyed to, Like, you know,
you're not shut up, So I kind of get it,
but also their their piece as a shit as well.

Speaker 2 (24:01):
Yeah, I understood both sides of that one a little bit,
like I I like how the other professor approached it
more where it seems like it was coming from a
good place, like it was tough love in a lot
of ways where he's it's kind of given him that
guidance like are you you sure this is like the
career path you want? Like you're not gonna be able
to get these credits. But but yeah, he's like the
deaf kid going too a music school, right, Like it's
it's it's just it's like, are you sure you're gonna

(24:23):
be able to do this? Like it's you literally just
don't have the capability to use magic, but you're at
a magic school, Like I I get where the professors
are coming from. But seeing him kind of overcome that
and then realize that he, uh, his goals or his
reasons of wanting to get to get there are very simplistic.

(24:43):
They're very simple. But what drives people is always kind
of simple, right, So it's like, yeah, he's doing it
for love, but he's very driven. He's very uh dedicated
to his studies. He can write, he can fight, he
can he can do it all.

Speaker 1 (24:54):
So, all right, who's your favorite girl so far in
the series. U, I don't.

Speaker 2 (25:01):
I feel like we don't know enough about the childhood friend.
It has implied that, like, well, she kind of appears
very like princess like and noble. She's not like she
grew up in the same over from as Sam and
that's kind of a facade. I think it said that
like kind of in one of the mid cards. But uh, so,
like she's interesting, but we don't know enough about her.

Speaker 1 (25:19):
But did anyone remember the childhood friend's name?

Speaker 2 (25:25):
I think they're all kind of named after flowers. Chloe No,
I liked Rose from the class Rose in their class.

Speaker 4 (25:33):
Was sorry, not Chlo. It it's Colet, Colet, Cots call
it from the class.

Speaker 1 (25:38):
I find a childhood friend.

Speaker 2 (25:40):
Uh it's fair from Oh never mind.

Speaker 1 (25:47):
The childhood friend. And then absolute three, we meet a
new girl. I'm so bad with names. Oh my god, the.

Speaker 2 (25:57):
Girl?

Speaker 1 (25:57):
Who who are you rooting for? I I kind of
want to keep on watching this anime.

Speaker 4 (26:02):
For me, Colette is my favorite. I like Colette, my
favorite girl.

Speaker 1 (26:05):
But we don't know al Faria, like Jordan mentioned, so
maybe I don't know how much if it's like it's
gonna be like, oh, Yeah, he has these cute moments
and like friendship building moments with these other characters, but
he's gonna stay true to al Faria if it's like
I feel.

Speaker 4 (26:22):
The only thing, the only thing you guys will get
out of al Faria is just her sitting on top
of the tower and just awaiting her Prince Charming to
come in and be together. Like and yes she's powerful
because she is on top of the Wizard tower, but
you won't get much from her. Say that you will,
you you will get listen, will get glimpses of backstory

(26:44):
and ship like that with her in Will, but that's
about it. You're gonna get more development from Colette and
just like her.

Speaker 2 (26:51):
Just in those first three episodes though, we get her
not only watching him like from the tower, but like
whenever he goes to where she can't he can't see her,
she sends the spy so Iris was her spy that
she like sent to go keep an eye on him,
Like she's like that kind of obsessed to an extent.
So like I feel like there's more there. Yeah, and
the White novels are finished. There's like eight volumes, so
like I know there's a second season established I feel

(27:13):
like it's one where like if they kind of do
it like Don Machi, I don't know how many seasons
we would get, but like I imagine it'd be like three
or four, and I'm hoping it goes somewhere with her question.

Speaker 1 (27:23):
Guys, question guys uh in Don Manchi, Bell's the girl
that he likes first? What's her name is Wallenstein? I
feel like she had no Obviously she has a backstory.
Later on we find out more about her, but she
had no personality. I feel like Alfaria is gonna have
some personality based off what you just said, and like
I just a little glimpse as we get I'm like,

(27:44):
I can't wait to meet this girl.

Speaker 2 (27:46):
Like, like we know we are not seeing the true
her right now right, So like that acted went out
of its way to say that, Like it gives me hope.

Speaker 1 (27:52):
Exactly.

Speaker 2 (27:53):
Dude, Collette, I just feel kind of bad for her,
Like she is bending over backwards for this dude day
in and out. I guess he kind of helps her
study a bit, but she's she has to be the
one to open his locker. I don't think you guys
understand every day, twice a day, she's you can't get
into his locker to get his stuff if she's.

Speaker 4 (28:08):
Not, Yeah, because the lockers require magic.

Speaker 2 (28:10):
To open defense and he's getting bullied. Like I don't
know she. I feel that.

Speaker 4 (28:17):
The show she does a sist him in a lot
of magic. She gives him fists of power to even
use him.

Speaker 2 (28:22):
And Hestia helps fell a lot. But you know, like
I still feel bad for him in that way, right,
like his heart's already like set. We know who the
his first love is.

Speaker 4 (28:31):
So we forgot to rank how she tended Joe. By
the way, I completely forgot about that.

Speaker 1 (28:35):
It's like a five out of ten so far.

Speaker 4 (28:38):
Yeah, so far, give like a six, give it like
a four.

Speaker 1 (28:42):
But I think he would have said five. We said
six and seven. I got a little bit lower than
whatever you guys say, less than you get, I'll take it.
I wish you get with a dub anyway. For for
this animal, I'd give it like a like a six
point five.

Speaker 2 (29:03):
Cool story storia. I liked it quite a bit so far,
I'll say, like Devin for now, like uh yeah, and
like I could see it definitely getting better as it
goes on, Like I I have very few complaints thus
far about the show. It's just still very early.

Speaker 1 (29:19):
So it's one of those things that it's just so
funny to me that like I'm interested in Joe's story,
but it looks like shit, and I'm not that interested
in the storia, but like it looks amazing.

Speaker 2 (29:31):
Bro. I did love that. Like it was wide screen
like most of the time, or like you know, has
those black bars at the top and bottom of of
the screen. And then like episode one, as soon as
like the fight started, like it went where it wasn't
like that anymore. I'm like, oh crap, he's about to
get the budget. Yeah, sure enough, Like I don't know
if like said the fights were fun, Yeah, overall, very

(29:51):
few complaints.

Speaker 1 (29:52):
Fights were good, characters are likable. I have very little complaints.
I have to give it to a seven. I'll put
it a seven.

Speaker 2 (29:58):
It's like the same way I feel about Don MACI
a lot of times, like I said, it's stereotypical in
some way, so like I usually don't have very many
complaints about it, but like I don't love it love
it right. So there's no masterpiece, but it's solid.

Speaker 1 (30:11):
It's no mashal. Did it make me laugh in those moments?

Speaker 4 (30:14):
Would you guys. Continue it though, is the big Yeah,
for sure, for sure, I definitely want to continue this.
Good to Hear, Good to Hear.

Speaker 2 (30:21):
We're two out of two so far for Bangers this week.

Speaker 1 (30:23):
All right, let's talk about Shirobako Shidobako. It's so funny.
This one starts off with like five yearls in high school,
and it's like it gave me the same vibe with
that other anime you made me watch where there was
like five girls or six girls at the very beginning,
and then it fast forward afterwards and it's just like,
now I've got to remember who's who and like what

(30:45):
colored hair everyone has? Like I guess one wants to
be an animated just wants the one wants to be
a voice actor, like I couldn't remember it.

Speaker 2 (30:53):
But they're not even really that important, especially those first
three episodes, right, like so many other characters that get
into Yeah, the only context I will give is that
this was done by PA Works, which they do with
like a lot of anime original type stuff, So yeah.

Speaker 1 (31:08):
It's an anime original about making anime originals.

Speaker 4 (31:12):
Yep, exactly. I first knew about Cheerabacco from simply watching
a random video on YouTube about Emma dancing while while
she's counting. It's so cute, that's literally, And that's how
I found out about Cheaobaco because back because this anime
started back in twenty fourteen, and I started watching anime,

(31:36):
well seasonal anime in twenty fifteen, so I pretty much
missed it. But now I got the chance to watch it,
and I'd say, it's pretty. It's not bad at all.
I actually like it. It's simple, yeah, about making anime.
Different girls want to be different things, voice, actor, animator,
three D model or whatever, and you get to go
into their life a little bit more and they have problems,
but you get to learn that through hard work you

(31:59):
can probably achieve anything. But uh, so far.

Speaker 1 (32:02):
Your synopsis fucking killed me. Uh why so far? You're
liking it?

Speaker 4 (32:09):
Yeah, it's good. I like it. It's simple, slice of life,
cute girls doing whatever.

Speaker 1 (32:13):
But I like it. Go ahead, and Jordan, Oh no,
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (32:18):
It's just that's such a weird synopsis because this show's
stresses me the hell out. This is like the most
stressful ever watched amongst stress so far. It is literally
this is just them at work and it's like it
kind of fixs you. In the beginning, like Brig said,
it shows these five childhood friends like they're in high school,
they have these big dreams, and then cut the two
and a half years later where they're in the industry
and it's like, it's just stress.

Speaker 1 (32:39):
Yeah, right, yeah, they're gonna have wrong when they're when
they're in the anime club and they're or whatever whatever
club animation club that they're in, it's like, oh, this
is so fun, we're getting this done. This it looks
all like this and that whatever, and then like fast
forward into deadlines and working with different people, different critiques

(33:00):
and different issues. I will say, there's a lot of
things about this show I like, and I'll talk about that,
and it's really cool to see like the what's like
the behind the scenes of what we watch every single
fucking week. But I'm also very bored at times too.

Speaker 4 (33:18):
The life it's what you signed up.

Speaker 1 (33:20):
I'm watching people work and it's a slice of life.
And I see the stress as well when the directors like, well,
that face isn't the way I wanted her to be,
and that's this is the backstory I had in my
head that I didn't communicate to you. You fucking idiot,
and it's just like, yeah, we're gonna restart. We have
five days left. Oh my god. But it is cool
to see them trying to meet deadlines and all the

(33:43):
different parts moving and how one part affects another part.
So it's cool to see that, and it's it's also
interesting to see like a work dynamic. It feels very
real in a way where it's like because there's so
many people with different ways of doing things and different
thought processes, how the clashes happened and how the issues happen. Right,

(34:04):
some people are really fast at doing things, some people
are very slow at doing things. Some people have different
visions for different things. So it was it's cool seeing that.
But there are times obviously that I'm just like I'm
watching people work. Yeah, where I worked all on.

Speaker 2 (34:20):
Week, dud dude, that's what. It stressed me the hell
out when I was watching the show. I'm not gonna
lie because I would get off work, and like I said,
it's very really I feel like anybody that's like worked
in any type of corporate environment or like a big
company where you're having to deal with a lot of
different people that you can relate on some levels, So
like I would get off work and then I would
be watching them work and I'm like, yeah, this is
stressing me out in my real job. More than my real.

Speaker 1 (34:41):
Job, one of my favorite things is watching aUI fucking drive.

Speaker 2 (34:48):
Driving this show.

Speaker 1 (34:49):
Due is Due. I think that was some of my
favorite parts. Like she's going to bring something to this
to this girl to get her to like animate it
or whatever, and she's just drifting around corners.

Speaker 4 (35:00):
Jordan, Jordan, could you tell me which episode is the
part where Emma was dancing? Which episode was it?

Speaker 2 (35:06):
So I don't know what episode it is. It's a
twenty four episode series, but I'm glad you touched on
that because we did say I did say initially whenever
I sent this, I'm like, on top of the three episodes,
this clip is required watching.

Speaker 4 (35:20):
Clip.

Speaker 2 (35:21):
I said that so funny.

Speaker 4 (35:24):
I'm going to take a good guess and say that
she's dancing just to let out the stress, and it
might be true.

Speaker 2 (35:29):
Alright, we can we pull up the clip on the
holding up the clip cover.

Speaker 1 (35:35):
I thought I was pulling up the clip, but I
don't see it. Oh did you message it?

Speaker 2 (35:41):
I just discorded the If you click that, it'll take
you up to where the clip is.

Speaker 4 (35:46):
Roll up with Shirobaco Emma dance.

Speaker 2 (35:49):
This is what recon knew from this uh yeah, this
series right here.

Speaker 4 (35:52):
This is this is the clip that got me introduced
to an I'm definitely gonna get an AD whenever I
try to open something on stream. No, it doesn't have
an AD. This video doesn't have an AD.

Speaker 2 (36:07):
Sponsored. Do you buye anime?

Speaker 1 (36:12):
I can't see what's going on. Why is this happening?
Why are we doing a dance?

Speaker 2 (36:17):
You gotta you gotta show chat to dance. I'm trying
to show chat. This is the thing that gets people
to walk and then they go in there and it's
just stress.

Speaker 4 (36:26):
Okay, go on stream labs and overlay it.

Speaker 1 (36:28):
I know how to do it.

Speaker 4 (36:29):
Recon do it.

Speaker 1 (36:31):
I'm trying, dude. It takes time.

Speaker 2 (36:35):
He just give you a taste of that stress from
a work environment breaks. Yeah, he really is.

Speaker 1 (36:43):
It's very cute, but I don't know the context at all.
Why are you I.

Speaker 2 (36:47):
Mean, you're working all day. You just gotta get those calist.

Speaker 4 (36:50):
You gotta get rid of that stress by just you know,
singing and dancing and doing all just.

Speaker 2 (36:55):
Doing stretches in between parts of her shift.

Speaker 1 (37:00):
I feel that so hard though, that whatever. I've been
like a full time content creator for a while, but
like I take off like some side jobs and I'm
basically working at a school for like three weeks right now,
and it's so trippy, like sitting down all day and
then coming home and trying to stream and sitting down
some more. I'm like, I just sat for like ten hours,
Like I have so much pent up energy.

Speaker 2 (37:18):
I need to go and do something exactly exactly. I
literally have.

Speaker 1 (37:24):
Been going for walks at like eleven pm, just like
just go for a walk. I need to I need
to move.

Speaker 2 (37:28):
I need to do something to move the body.

Speaker 4 (37:31):
And that video right there teaches you exactly what you
need to do exact for a stressful day.

Speaker 1 (37:35):
Yeah I will. I will do that video and send
it to you. Ricon, don't worry, let's go.

Speaker 2 (37:42):
But uh Racon, what did you think about the driving?
I feel like the driving, you know, it's partially just
PA works like showing off, like, look, we could do
an action stuff if we want, we could do initially.

Speaker 4 (37:52):
Yeah, I was impressed when I saw it that they
would give us anything like that. And you know, a
cute show of just girls making. But it was surprising
and I liked it. It was good this time around,
like like like a little taste, like here, we know
you guys are We'll just throw this in or at least.

Speaker 2 (38:14):
This time around as far as that driving scene goes,
because I've seen it before, right, but I I didn't
notice this the first time. That logo on the car.

Speaker 3 (38:21):
Dude squad like g I Studio or something like that,
but our G I staff that logo, the way it's
designed is is just basically the production I G.

Speaker 1 (38:32):
Logo IG staff or something.

Speaker 2 (38:34):
Yeah, No, it's production I G. Is like the studio
that does like hi Q and run with the Wind
and stuff like that. So like the I and the
G are you know, they're flipped, but like it's the
same style for those and then there's just a different
word there. But I thought that was really cool. It's
like just little references from the industry that it's like
they're racing the high Q squad right there. The bro

(38:54):
was just trying to get hike wrapped up.

Speaker 1 (38:56):
Also, there's the one purple hair girl I remember her name,
I'm sorry. She gets asked to like work on something
with like a deadline of two days and she's just like,
if I'm gonna do it, I'm gonna do it properly.
So she probably stayed up all night doing it and
then she literally passes out and collapses. And just seeing
how much effort and like sacrifice they're putting into this

(39:19):
is crazy. And I feel like there's some reality to it,
like they're very overworked in Japan to the point of
like getting sick. I very rarely, like we stress ourselves
out over here in the West quite a bit, but
I very rarely see these things like, yeah, hospitalize from
overwork type thing. And I feel like we see that
reference to a lot in Japan, which scares.

Speaker 2 (39:38):
The food out of me. Yeah, you're not wrong, You're
not wrong. It's definitely a very different like work culture
kind of over there, like they're they're very late and
things like that, right like that, Yeah, it takes a
lot of time.

Speaker 1 (39:48):
Like Buddy said he was gonna go, he was gonna
go and like go to a meeting or something and
then and drop something off. He'll be back for eleven PM.
I'm like, what eleven pm?

Speaker 2 (39:57):
And then you get those people that have kind of
been there a while, stuff like the old man, that's
like he animator stuff. He's like, I'm going home. It's
like five, you know, yeah, like five or what have Like.
There are those people, but like anybody that's ever switched
from like an hourly position to some type of salary, salary,
like they'll usually tell you I like myself included at
one point. Stuff. There's times where you end up making
like almost less because like you don't get overtime or anything,

(40:19):
but also you end up working more, right, So it's
a it's one of those one of those things where
there's like a little bit of commentary on that, and
it's just interesting seeing how all the different things come together.
How one wrench over here turns into a snowball of
a fire drill that's like wrecks the schedule over here,
causing them to kind of overwork, right, How that can
cause that stress and h and we get these people

(40:43):
that were following like said, she's twenty years old, right, yeah,
she's she's very much at this point in those first
three episodes like uh, yeah, I can do that, Like, yeah,
we can do that. Will figure it out, Like there's
times where you got to learn to say no with things,
right whenever it doesn't seem reasonable or doable. So we
see that with some of the older guys, like uh,
we saw one of the guys that ended up going

(41:04):
home and like his son's there talking to him as
he's watching a movie, Like we saw him say like no,
like twice he's like yeah, like I was busy with
this the whole time, Like I can't, I can't commit
to that. Like it it's interesting, Go ahead.

Speaker 1 (41:17):
I was gonna say the best character in the series though,
was the President by far. President President of the companies
is the chilling just they're chilling making food for people.

Speaker 2 (41:25):
What a beauty cook. And he's he's such a sweetheart.
They're over there stressing about the whole production of their
first big anime seven years falling apart, and he's like,
nobody wants some candy anybody.

Speaker 1 (41:33):
I feel like that's probably the most unrealistic thing about
this series. About this series, he's.

Speaker 2 (41:38):
About to retire. He's but uh, I feel like we
all know that guy that's about to retire.

Speaker 1 (41:44):
It's just like you know, yeah, but he's the president.
It's different. Like I know a lot of people that
I got about to retire that like are coasting and
like yeah, random thing, but like the president is being there,
like actually there in person a lot and then cooking
for people. This is I don't know if that's like
a Japanese thing or like just like the one thing
in this anima, because this anima feels very real at times.

Speaker 2 (42:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (42:06):
Yeah, and then the president they're cooking curry and like
making top of on Yaki. I'm just like, I don't know,
I gets it's the anime.

Speaker 2 (42:15):
One good thing about this anime is like three episode
rule as well as we see that big wrench kind
of thrown in the schedule from like the director, Like he's,
you know, not the best at communicating, so he's definitely
should have said some of the things he did earlier.
But whenever he gets to see that preview of the cut,
he goes, you know, this isn't kind of how I
envisioned it, Like, we can make this better. And so

(42:36):
there's that creative part, right that's scheduling with creative people
and stuff in particular can be especially daunting. But uh,
you know, he kind of throws a wrench in the
schedule there, and he's the least able to kind of
rally people around that. But it turns the schedule into
a mess it can becomes stressful as hell. And then
we see that difference at the very end of episode
three where it's uh, we get to see that finalized

(42:58):
version of that one scene from episode for that they
redid just same music, same voice, acting like they kept
those things the same, even though we saw them kind
of change those around and messle with them earlier. And
it's like, just the the extra detail to the animation
and the way they went about it added so much
to that little scene, right, So it's like it gives
you a very good view and insight and stuff into

(43:20):
how far sometimes the little things go whenever they put
that extra attention to detail there.

Speaker 1 (43:24):
So I will say, having a director that can't communicate,
but he needs to be fired. I don't care how
talented he is, Like, you need to be able to
communicate if you're a director.

Speaker 2 (43:32):
Yeah yeah, but you all are still talking. Yeah yeah,
any other thoughts from you there? We can on this
or no.

Speaker 4 (43:40):
It's just as simple as that. But I'll continue watching it,
no problem. Yeah, But for me, I would rate this
a six out of ten.

Speaker 1 (43:49):
All right, I give it like a It's one of
those shows I feel like, really nothing wrong with it,
but it just also just not necessarily for me. I
did enjoy it, but I don't know.

Speaker 4 (44:01):
Yeah, it gets boring, It does get boring. I'm not
gonna end first. Stretching it out to twenty four episodes
might be a little bit overborn. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (44:09):
I wish there was more. I don't know for the
pace that it's going.

Speaker 4 (44:12):
For the pace that it's going, it's kind of stretching out.

Speaker 2 (44:15):
I wish there was more. We haven't even gotten to
see anything from the Oh yeah, yeah, like if we
saw her working extra jobs because it's not like a
necessarily a hard income, right, we get this question. We
haven't seen anything from the three D Animator or the Rider.
Like we're following two of those five people at the
start rights.

Speaker 1 (44:31):
Question, Jordan, we saw the voice actor I think, call
Ali while she was like busy and the girl collapsed. Yeah,
that's the voice actor. I thought at one point later
on when they had people voice acting, that one of
them was the childhood friend voice acting. But I don't

(44:52):
think that's true.

Speaker 2 (44:53):
Right, No red.

Speaker 1 (44:56):
Voice actor. I'm colorblind as well, and you choose shows
where a lot of the faces are so fucking similar
but there's like.

Speaker 2 (45:04):
This show also throws like thirty million characters. Yeah, all
right at you.

Speaker 1 (45:07):
Yeah, and then you're on episode three and stuff's happening
and episode won the first three minutes and like, is
this one of like five characters? Because I know Ali's here,
but like, what about what's her name?

Speaker 2 (45:18):
Fucking's there's two of the others we just don't even
see in those first three episodes aside from the very start.

Speaker 1 (45:23):
But well, two of them were were not the same age,
if I remember correctly, like three of them graduated and
then two of them.

Speaker 2 (45:29):
They're all five graduated. Yeah, well they're all.

Speaker 1 (45:31):
Five graduated now because it's two and a half years later,
but I'm pretty sure they're not the same age.

Speaker 2 (45:37):
Okay, maybe yeah, I don't I don't remember.

Speaker 1 (45:41):
But yeah, I'm it's like finally introduced a character. I'm like,
is this one of the five? Like I have to
go back. I should have taken a picture of them.

Speaker 2 (45:48):
So I recommended this one just because you know, it's
an anime about making anime. We're always watching anime. It's
cool to get that insight into the background. And then
I know, last week, whenever I asked about like the
production of stuff. I know you guys said you kind
of noticed it if it's bad, right, But there's a
lot of times if it's good, it's it's almost like
whether or not you look forward to such a big
detail on uh, if they went that extra mile in

(46:09):
certain regards, right, and like appreciating that where you see it. So,
I don't know, this is one of those shows. I
think that makes me appreciate that a little bit more
so that all that's the last thing I'll say about it.

Speaker 1 (46:18):
Yeah, I think it makes me appreciate what because a
lot of times we just consume and we don't think
about the people that are creating it and their conditions
and the stuff that they're going through, and also the
fact that they're probably watching it alongside us and like
reading comments and like like what I make. I've made
it so many anime related YouTube videos, and I just
assume I'm making it for the fans, But sometimes you

(46:39):
could also be making it for maybe not like the author,
but there's a lot of people that work on these
and they got into the industry because they probably got
into the industry because they're fans of anime, so they're
a good chance they could have seen some of the
content maybe that not that we're making, but that other
people are making. For sure.

Speaker 2 (47:00):
Yeah, I think that's one of the biggest things about
the industry. It is very competitive because people want to
work in it, because they're passionate about it. But because
of that, you know, sometimes the work conditions are aren't
the best, right, So very stressful, very competitive, et cetera.

Speaker 1 (47:12):
Recon your turn to talk about Berserk. Did you watch episodes.

Speaker 2 (47:16):
Four through six?

Speaker 4 (47:17):
Huh? What are we talking about?

Speaker 1 (47:19):
Did you watch episod four through six of Berserk?

Speaker 4 (47:22):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (47:23):
Maybe maybe?

Speaker 4 (47:26):
Yes, yes I did.

Speaker 2 (47:28):
Did you only watch episodes four through six or did
you watch more?

Speaker 4 (47:31):
Just no, I just watched three extra episodes.

Speaker 2 (47:33):
Okay, got your thoughts.

Speaker 4 (47:38):
Wow, it's actually really good. I'm not gonna lie.

Speaker 1 (47:43):
I'm glad you're liking it. What did you think of general?
It's odd.

Speaker 4 (47:48):
It's Zod, the Immortal Zod.

Speaker 2 (47:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (47:53):
Boy, that was a crazy fucking fight.

Speaker 4 (47:56):
That that episode in episode six, the fight between Guts
and the Immortal Zodd, who turns into a fucking ogre
at first and then a demon and then a full
on demon of like, oh, that was spicy. I'm not
gonna lie. I really liked.

Speaker 1 (48:13):
It, and it all going we know in episode of
one that there's demons and all these different things going
on in the world, and then it cuts back to
like very grounded, just like humans versus humans fighting, and
then episode six it jumps right back into Yeah, there's
an immortal fucking demon fighting for the enemy, and it
wipes out most of Guts's fucking like unit continual. I

(48:34):
just wanted to talk about that. I like how it
gets grounded and it comes back to demons.

Speaker 4 (48:38):
I liked how it starts an episode four where it
shows off, you know, more of the conversation between Guts
and Griffith, and we actually get to see that he
becomes a commander later on. Was it a commander or
captain I don't remember, but he becomes a leader leader
in the Mercenary group and then he gets to basically

(48:59):
he becomes higher and Guts, right, Guts his captain. No, well,
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (49:04):
Griffith is the highest for sure, Yeah, Gut and what's
the girl's name? Oh my gods, gods in Costcar are
both leading their own like thing. But I think Guts
is higher right slightly now, Griffith, I know Griffith is
the highest, you know that, definitely the highest.

Speaker 2 (49:24):
So the whole band is there because they're following Griffith, right, Yeah, yeah,
I got like basically giving up an important role like
leading the calvary or what. Yeah have you.

Speaker 1 (49:32):
I feel like he would even like slightly higher ranked
or whatever than Costca. But also the Costca and Guts
bickering kills me. Like it's so I feel like it's.

Speaker 4 (49:41):
Like she's so she's so annoyed of him because he's
just charging into battle recklessly and she's like.

Speaker 1 (49:48):
Watch out, you need to follow our lead, and he's.

Speaker 4 (49:50):
Just doing his own thing. He doesn't give a ship.
I love it.

Speaker 1 (49:53):
I think it comes from Costa's love and respect of
Griffith that like seeing Guts go wild just pisses her
the fuck off. And how much Griffith likes Guts. Griffith
loves Guts and like treats him like in a special
way or whatever.

Speaker 2 (50:07):
I love it makes to you. Probably Yeah, I'm not
gonna lie.

Speaker 4 (50:11):
The relationship between Guts and Griffith is so good. I'm
just waiting to see where this all falls down there.

Speaker 2 (50:20):
That's how it gets here, waiting.

Speaker 4 (50:22):
It's so interesting I'm just waiting for that moment. How
did that friendship get ruined? I can't wait.

Speaker 2 (50:30):
It foreshadows that it like fell apart somehow, right, and
then episode four, I think they're like they have like
a bat scene together where they're goofing around and then
you know a fujio. She went crap wild with that one,
and then uh against Zo in particular, Griffith put his
own life on the line and like went in there
to try to save Guts, like in a way that
he would never really do for like anybody else, or

(50:51):
has has never really done for anybody else. Right, So, yeah,
it's there's a lot of a lot of building going
on there.

Speaker 4 (50:58):
I like how they also showed off guts his backstory
as well in his child where he was training, he
was just a weakling and he was under a He
joined some mercenary group just you know, learn how to
fight and ship, and he gets betrayed in the end
and framed for killing the what was the guy's name, Gimbo?
I don't remember.

Speaker 2 (51:20):
I rewatched this part a little bit, but it's been
remember the guy's name, but the father figure of.

Speaker 4 (51:27):
Yeah, the guy that he looked up to, and he
was trying to kill Guts, but then Guts killed him,
and the other soldiers came to the tent and they
witnessed that just killed him. I don't I don't remember
the guy's name, but it starts with Gambino. Yeah, and
then Guts had to run away and then pretty much

(51:48):
do his own thing. But it was a cool backstory
at the very least to see.

Speaker 1 (51:52):
Yeah, definitely cuts out a little bit a lot. It's
very even with the first couple episodes, and then even
in four and five, it's very like insinuated rather than shown.
And I actually kind of like that. But maybe I
like that because I already know if you're going and
Donovan and stuff like that.

Speaker 2 (52:13):
Okay, fucking gimbal, Gimbo, gimbo.

Speaker 1 (52:18):
I'm happy that it seems like Ricon's very invested in this,
and he knows.

Speaker 4 (52:22):
I'm genuinely very invested. I want to ask you guys,
this thea the ZOD. At the end, when he beat
down Griffith, he saw that he was wearing that necklace.
What was what is that necklace even related to?

Speaker 2 (52:34):
He said, we can't tell you.

Speaker 1 (52:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (52:36):
Yeah, he spoke to.

Speaker 4 (52:38):
Guts and told him something about death that you're gonna
meet your death or something.

Speaker 3 (52:42):
I don't know, and then he just ran out based
on it got.

Speaker 4 (52:46):
Me interested, It got me interested a lot more.

Speaker 2 (52:49):
Let's go.

Speaker 1 (52:51):
Okay, guys, got wreck on some some anime for next week,
we're gonna continue watching three more episodes of Brasik right Ricon.

Speaker 4 (52:57):
Of course I will be watching it.

Speaker 2 (52:58):
I'm very intrigued.

Speaker 1 (53:03):
Do you guys have anime recommendations for next week?

Speaker 4 (53:07):
I'll let Jordans start with that.

Speaker 2 (53:10):
You're letting me start. I don't know. Let's see, do
you guys want something fun or do you want like
I feel like this was like the most stressful, So
you can.

Speaker 4 (53:19):
Give us anything. No, one, we're not gonna say anything.

Speaker 2 (53:21):
I just watched a movie here recently that was like
the least stressful thing I'm gonna I've ever watched. And
it's a twenty twenty four movie. So you can't recommend
us in the movie. Oh okay, you can. You can't.
It's long.

Speaker 1 (53:35):
Not if it's like an hour and a half movie,
that's not that bad.

Speaker 2 (53:39):
It is like an hour and a half movies. But
if recons no, that's fine. This one was like the
least stressful thing I've ever.

Speaker 4 (53:44):
Done in movies. If you want us to watch a movie.

Speaker 2 (53:48):
Sure, okay. It was called The Colors Within. Oh okay,
let me see have you okay? By Yamada is the director,
so she's she used to do a lot of Kill
two animation stuff, so she's probably one of the more
popular directors that I've heard the most about. But like,

(54:08):
she spent like years making this movie. And uh, I'll
post a picture of it in the chat. So if
you've already seen it, we can do something else, or
if you es actually sorry, I'm so down to watch it.
This one was not stressful. It was I had a
smile on my face the whole time. So I opposit

(54:30):
the shibaku.

Speaker 1 (54:31):
All right, you guys have definitely not watched all right,
break slay it on us Kaiba two thousand and eight.

Speaker 2 (54:40):
I've actually heard quite a bit about this one, but
I've never seen it by Studio Madhouse.

Speaker 4 (54:46):
Oh it looks very janky, bro, what the hell is this?

Speaker 2 (54:52):
Then?

Speaker 1 (54:53):
It looks very yanky, and I like recommending things that
look yanky for Reacon, but I'm interested to see what.

Speaker 4 (54:58):
How the hell is eight? On fucking mouth? That's crazy.

Speaker 1 (55:04):
It's pretty good. I didn't want to say anything.

Speaker 2 (55:05):
It's pretty good. Let's go, have you seen this one?
Or you just no? I have? I have seen it, Okay, huge.

Speaker 1 (55:12):
And I completely for fucking forgot about that. And I
watched it so long ago, but I remember liking it,
so hopefully it holds up and I remember it just
really trippy at times. So we'll see what recon thinks.
And I'm interested to see what you think too, Joan.

Speaker 2 (55:27):
I'm excited for this one. This will be good.

Speaker 1 (55:29):
I watched it. I got it in my grade ten
of high school.

Speaker 2 (55:33):
Though I don't know. I don't know. It's almost fun
revisiting stuff like that because you're just it's almost like
watching it again for the for the first time. But
you're like, how does this even compare to how I remember?

Speaker 4 (55:42):
Right?

Speaker 3 (55:42):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (55:43):
Right?

Speaker 4 (55:44):
I got an animate for you. So because we're all gamers,
I'm gonna recommend this anime gamers.

Speaker 1 (55:53):
Let's go, oh, anime gamers. I've ever heard of that?

Speaker 4 (55:56):
Yeah, gamers, it's called did you watch it, Jordan?

Speaker 2 (56:00):
Yeah, like back when it aired. I haven't rewatched it. No,
this is a good one, though, I love it.

Speaker 1 (56:05):
I love that. Okay, So next week we're watching we're
watching gamers, Kaiba colors what's it called, the colors within,
the colors within? I think, yeah, yeah, zerk, guys, let's
try and lock in, even if we're not enjoying something.

(56:27):
Let's try and lock in and actually like know what
we're talking about. Watch the episodes. Don't skim, don't skip.

Speaker 2 (56:35):
He says that on the week he recommends Kai, but
he's like, I know is not gonna I feel.

Speaker 1 (56:39):
Like like to stop paying attention three minutes in and just.

Speaker 4 (56:43):
Don't Why are you? Why are you doing this to us? Man?

Speaker 1 (56:47):
But let's walk in. Let's do let's I want us
want to reinforce. Let's let's uh, let's do our due
diligence and keep this going all right, all right?

Speaker 2 (56:54):
Be able to know who's.

Speaker 1 (56:55):
Your favorite character, who's your what's your favorite moment, the
general thing we should be to talk about all that. Honestly,
I'm scared for Kaiva. I haven't like. I hope it's
still good.

Speaker 4 (57:09):
I'm watching the trailer right now. This looks so whack.

Speaker 1 (57:15):
See it's also by the director who did Devilman, cry
Baby and Ping Pong the animation. Oh my god, Oh
you don't like Ping Pong. That's right, Ping Pong's amazing.

Speaker 4 (57:27):
I know I know about Ping Pong the animation. I
haven't watched it. I only watched the trailer.

Speaker 1 (57:32):
Just no, I know what I'm I'm recommending Pingo. I
rewatch Ping Pong every couple of years. It's fucking Chef's kiss.

Speaker 4 (57:42):
Bro. I swear if you make me watch anything bad,
I will recommend shit. I'm telling you, I know some
of the worst series I've ever seen. I'm telling it,
I'm gonna recommend like fucking something like ex arm I
swear to god, I will say ex R.

Speaker 1 (57:57):
No.

Speaker 2 (57:57):
Isn't that like the lowest rated thing on on Mallard
something like that?

Speaker 4 (58:01):
One of the lowest rated?

Speaker 2 (58:03):
Oh my god, this man.

Speaker 1 (58:05):
What I remember if I ever heard it, What I
remember well is like it looks like a kid show,
but then it's fucked up. It's what I remember, but
I don't remember actually like any details.

Speaker 2 (58:18):
I know there's a lot of times where if there's
like a simpler animation style with which this looks very simple,
like they're kind of able to to go hand with it.
So I don't know if it'll look great, but I'm
I'm excited to find out.

Speaker 1 (58:28):
Yeah, I'm excited to rewatch it anyway. Guys, that's Rank Cafe.
I hope everyone enjoyed. Thank you for joining me, Jordan
and Recon. I love you.

Speaker 4 (58:37):
Guys, worry you guys always here.

Speaker 1 (58:42):
Yeah ship Bok and I will see you all next time.

Speaker 2 (58:45):
Bang