May 24, 2025 • 48 mins
Briggs, Anim3recon, The Anime Dude Discuss Anime
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Absolutely not. No, yo, What is up? Boys? How's it going?
And welcome back to another episode of the Rant Cafe
Anime Podcast. We're doing it again, boys, we're talking about anime.
Who would have thought not me? All right with me?
Today we got Jordan the anime dude. What's up dude?
Speaker 2 (00:20):
What's up everybody? How are you doing today?
Speaker 1 (00:22):
And this dude made me, made us watch Aura Emo.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Yeah, we can talk about that here in a bit if.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
Okay, And we also have Recon, the King of Bad Taste.
What's up man?
Speaker 3 (00:35):
What up?
Speaker 4 (00:35):
Guys?
Speaker 3 (00:36):
It is good to be back. The name is Recon
and we're here to suffer once more with you know,
the trash that we recommend to each other.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
So yeah, all right, King of Trash Taste, I'm coming
for your title one of these days.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
George coming for man. He really is on that note
talking about bad taste. Recon did not do his homework
and did not watch Berzerk.
Speaker 4 (00:58):
Yeah about that.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
We also forced him to watch Kangan Austra, so we're
gonna say that is his pick, I guess. And then
I'm Briggs, guys, and I recommended Devil May Cry and
I watched the entire thing and we'll talk about that
right now. Actually, Devil may cry. What did you guys think?
Speaker 4 (01:19):
Now you go first?
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Okay, Okay, So I never knew much about the uh
the old game or the old series. I just kind
of knew it existed. I knew it was a thing.
And I talked to a couple of fans that did
enjoy that old stuff, and they weren't really a big
fan of this series, but they said that people that
are coming into it new will like it. So that
was like the only preconceptions I had prior to going in.
(01:42):
I went in pretty blind. Those first three episodes were fun.
I enjoyed it a lot. It was it was a
good time. It had a good mix of like comedy,
uh like Dante's style of comedy kind of rolled with me.
It had some good action, It had uh had a
little bit of everything, to be honest, and just in
those first three episodes, and more importantly than anything, like
what stuck out to me as I watched it was
(02:02):
Dante's mom kind of has it going on, bro, she
stole the show for me, Like you got like the
best wife of that anime season already, like determined it's great.
Uh So yeah, I don't have too much to complain
about with it thus far. I've only seen those three episodes.
I've been having some Internet issues fair.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
But uh recon thoughts on Devil May Cry.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
Right, So, as a person who has played almost all
the Devil May Cry games on Xbox and PlayStation and
the most recent one, Devil May Cry five, this was
very okay ish. It just my my my issue is
(02:44):
that it didn't really feel like the Devil May Cry
that I truly wanted. You know, Dante is like one
of the most perfect, greatest fictional characters in gaming history,
and for him to be here, it's it's awesome, But
he wasn't the Dante that I knew from the games,
and he had so little screen time because from what
(03:06):
I got from the series, he's not really the main character,
even though he's cool and badass and he uses dual
pistols and demon hunts and yeah, he's he's good looking
and ship, but he wasn't really the main character because
the main characters were I think Lady and the White Rabbit.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
I think I would say he's more or less the
main character, but they followed other characters quite a bit. Yeah,
a lot of moving parts.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
They followed. They followed Lady and the White Rabbit more
and showed their backstory and ship, which was which was interesting,
but I really wanted to see more of Dante. He
was more or less mostly in the middle and less
in the beginning and at the end. Got it?
Speaker 2 (03:49):
What is there gonna be like a season two? Is
there gonna be more of it? Because it's like an episode.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
I genuinely have no idea it.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
They ended in a way that there will be a
season two. I will say, I have my issues. I
didn't play the games, so I'm not gonna be critiquing
little things that they changed about the characters or his
weapons like his guns and stuff. There was a lot
of like little nitpicks I saw online, which completely understandable.
I watched the Leelo and Stitch live action. I'm like,
why is that guy's why? Why? What is that guy's
(04:22):
voice not sound cool and have an accent? And what
happened to Bubbles? Oh wait? No, Bubbles is coming later?
Like I will nitpick little things because of that.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
Where is Captain?
Speaker 3 (04:30):
Oh wait?
Speaker 1 (04:34):
Anyway, but there are some positives episode six. I know
we weren't technically required to watch all of the episode six.
Episode six was one of the best pieces of cinema
and direction I have seen in a long time. It
was not a single word was said for twenty five
minutes in the episode. It was fully an AMV this
(04:56):
episode telling two backstories transpiring at the same people being
shaped by their surroundings and seeing the darkness and like
the light of both worlds in a way, just to
be crushed in the end. And it was just like,
I don't even want I'm trying to speak very vaguely,
as you guys can tell, I'm like, try to speak
very very vaguely. I want them to experience it and
(05:16):
enjoy it without like going into what exactly happened. But
it was absolutely gorgeous. I think the White Rabbit is
an amazing villain and character. And the choreography of some
of Dante's fights, some of them are like cgi and
shit that were looked ugly and bad. Some of them
(05:37):
were talk to your choreography. The music always hit. I
think my one complaint was because they only had eight episodes,
sometimes it just felt like, Hey, we're gonna tell you
all this stuff real quick. So the opposite of episode six,
some other episodes like episode one, the first chapter there, like,
let's drop all the lore, all the plot, all the
story real quick so we could get into the thick
of it, right, And they did that. Then they did
(06:00):
it one other time where I'm just like, they probably
didn't have to just give me dialogue for the last
two minutes just to catch me up with what's going
on and like explain a bunch of stuff. They could
have showed it or did it in a more interesting way.
That's my one complaint. But I will say episode six
makes this series it's worth watching.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
Okay, just episode six breaks.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
Really almost every episode was thirty minutes. It was kind
of dragged.
Speaker 4 (06:26):
The action was Did.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
You watch episode did you watch up with six recons?
Did you get it?
Speaker 3 (06:30):
It was pretty cool?
Speaker 1 (06:31):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (06:32):
I watched it all right, Yeah I finished it. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
I think the reveal for the Rabbit was good. I
think like there was so much don't don't spoil ricon
for Jordan.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
No, I'm not gonna spoil it for even the ending.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
The twists and turns towards the end were quite good.
I like Lady or whatever. Maybe her name was Maria,
but Dante called.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
Her lady Mary, Mary, lady whatever.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
I liked her as a character quite a bit watching
her like struggle, her hatred for demons, her struggle.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
She's the different colored eyes girl. It's like a human hunter.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
Okay, yeah, she's like the police lady or whatever, like yeah, yeah,
yeah that one.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
It was also a twist at the end with her
and Dante and stuff happened at the end, which I
wasn't like, I think, I don't get a process what happened,
but I think there was certain moments of development for
her as a character that I really appreciated.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
Virgil was my favorite character. I don't know, he wasn't
there much, but like he's just one of my favorites,
especially from the games.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
I Am the Star.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
That is a proching if you got to play that,
you got to play the games.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
Brother, Yeah, and I will say that's that's where I
ended off is as I love how they did that
reveal because it's very subtle. Right the end of episode three,
the shape shifter that had turned into his brother says, oh, yeah,
I can only turn into somebody else, like if that
person's alive, right, So, so like that was such a
(08:00):
that a little drop where I'm like, oh my god, Okay,
Like I get what that implies, like it kind of
spells it out for you, but it's also it doesn't
say it right, So I don't know. I love the
Show Not Tell type of storytelling. Yeah, and I will
say I remember critiquing a little bit of the first
episode two where it's doing an info dump, but I'm like,
we probably need that a little bit, right, Like there's
(08:20):
a lot of series I do that that's a a
very common sin. But hearing you talk about episode six
gets me excited then, because I love it when they
take that show Not Tell and they do it to
an extreme. And some of the fights up to this
point were also really good. You got the episode two
they had a fight where you know, they jumped them.
I don't agree that they I feel like they should
(08:42):
have tried to talk it out first, you know, maybe
maybe tried diplomatic reasoning, like hey, can we borrow that
real quick and then give it.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
Back, or talking about when they were a test with
taking back the amulet, right.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
Yeah, yeah, but they all jump them. You know, they're
fighting in the dark, and I feel like that was
such a cool little action action scene the little cheese
yet times but like whenever you have a character that
can take a gun shot and it's not fatal, it
makes it to where seems like that feel less cheesy
in a way because he does get shot right, like
you think he takes like a shotgun shot through what
he doesn't?
Speaker 3 (09:13):
Yeah, and do you know why he doesn't die?
Speaker 4 (09:15):
Though?
Speaker 3 (09:15):
Do you know much about Jordan?
Speaker 2 (09:18):
Yeah? I think it's kind of you know what, do
you know what he is? He's he's like half demon,
right because his dad's the Uh yeah, uh, he's like
that his mom was banging. Oh what's his name?
Speaker 3 (09:29):
The word is he's in the felm. So he's like
half demon, half angel and he's like he's got some
cool powers and ship.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
Can I just say one thing about this show that's
kind of great is by the end I was feeling
bad for the demons and kind of want like a
show that's not black and white. Oh, human's good, Demon's bad.
They did that to a crazy degree. Towards the end
rum it's like, but like, why can't they come here?
(10:01):
Like they should just come live in harmony. Some monsters
will come, but then we'll just hunt them, you know,
hunters are four. Like I was like team Demon at
a point, I'm like, wait, this is kind of crazy.
Is that an eight episode show was doing this to me?
Speaker 2 (10:15):
It's weird because you can usually kind of go either
way with an approach to a to a topic like that,
But whenever the main character himself is like a half half,
I feel like that's usually when they take the approach.
He just kind of stated, So I've been kind of
waiting for that pin to drop. But uh yeah, overall
that that fight scene from episode two is good. Fight
(10:35):
scene from episode three was good. They had freaking popa
roach playing as they have like a high speed chase,
and I felt like the oddball watching that one because uh,
you know, I was reacting to it and I'm like,
do you think insurance covers like red and blue ogres
just like slamming indo you on the highway? And yeah,
like that's where my mind was going. But at the
(10:56):
same time, it was it was a crazy fool scene, right,
So I don't know. I enjoyed those first three episodes
a lot.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
So you two should play Devil May Crime five. I
think you will really enjoy that if you wanted to.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
I will say it made me want to dive back
into like the older media, just because of older fans
saying that like they had preferred that even more. And
I'm like, I could see how this is maybe like
based off of an old ip where where they maybe
cleaned up some aspects of it in a way that
people wouldn't like. So I'm like, I kind of want
to see what the original was, like, I don't know.
It has my interest, so here's my interest.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
Yeah, I think this is one of the pretty good show.
I'm I'm excited for a potential season two. I think
the fact that I was willing to watch all eight
episodes for this podcast kind of speaks volumes as well.
Even though I recommended it, I hadn't seen it yet
seen it yet, I recommended it, I wanted to watch.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
Yeah, I wanted to watch all lighted. I still need to.
I will, I will. I'm not gonna leave this when unfinished.
It's only eight episodes, so it'd be a sin if
I week.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
If you do finish the remainder of the episodes, we'll
talk about it a little bit more next week. Okay,
sounds good, Okay, I'm down to actually let's write it.
What are guys writing it?
Speaker 3 (12:09):
Out of ten, I'll give it a six point five
out of ten.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
You know, I was about to say the same, but
I don't want to be a copycat, so I'm gonna
bump it up to a six point nine. There we go.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
Perfect. Literally if I only like genuinely, I think because
I didn't play the games I only complay with sometimes
they would just like say a lot of stuff so
they could keep on going and get things done faster. Honestly,
I'm giving to get like close to an eight, maybe
like a seven point eight out of ten. Okay, those
last two episodes are just like or like six and
seven I really liked.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
Okay, let's talk about or Emo.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
Yeah, why you guys go on this one? Won't you
think My Little Sister can't be this cute?
Speaker 4 (12:55):
One of the shittiest shows I've ever seen.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
Back then? What the same director as Aero manga sense? Uh?
Speaker 2 (13:03):
It literally the same author, Yeah, same.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
Author, the exact same concept of little sisters, and they're
fetish that they're trying to fucking hide while they're why
they try to appear perfect? Yeah, it's just like it's
so mad.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
First, Okay, that's a lot.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
I know I hate the concept, but I kind of
ended up enjoying the first three episodes. Man, Like, at
one on like this fucking thought's why and why is
Jordan doing this to me? I'm like as two, I'm like, yeah,
she made friends. Episode three, I'm like the brother standing
up for her sister. Let's go. I'm like a got
oddly wholesome, despite the concept being the most cursed thing.
(13:48):
I kind of hate thank you.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
It's all it's you know, that's the that's the best
phrase I think I could have wanted to hear right there.
I'm okay with that. It's it's a good sum up.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
So yeah, I really enjoyed watching the brother stand up
to the dad for his like his sister, who like
for the most part, is like a really good person,
gets good grades, like has a great like appearance wise
ten out of ten in every aspect, as like a
daughter should be. But she also is like really enjoys anime, manga,
(14:20):
video games, and of course some of them. The dad
had his point too, some of them are over eighteen,
and she should probably not be playing that as like
a fucking twelve or thirteen year old girl, right, And
so they both had their like kind of perspectives and
I don't know. I enjoyed it quite a bit. But
what I liked was the brother stood up for the fact.
It's like, Okay, you can't just tell her not to
like play these things because online and like on TV,
(14:43):
people are saying that this is weird. Yeah, let her
have her hobby, let her have her passion. She's literally
the perfect fucking daughter. Other than that, so can.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
I level set? I guess a little bit on this one.
I haven't seen this in like twelve years, right, Like
I originally watched this when I was around like sixteen
or so, right when it kind of came out in
like twenty ten, And uh, I rewatched it in like
twenty twelve when season two came out, so like it'd
been a while since I've since I've seen this, and
I rewatched those first three episodes, and I also feel
(15:12):
like it just kind of held up right because what
originally I feel like the big appeal to this series
was was one you got to put yourself in that
time period, right, is a time period where anime was
stigmatized way more in general it than it kind of
would be now. So so you know that and a
lot of the characters in the show are specific types
of uh you know, I guess you'd say archetypes of
(15:35):
like weaves and whatnot. So for me back then, and
one of the reasons to have nostalgia for this show
is I actually related to Kirio a little bit. I
was a closet weep. I had a lot of stuff
or I didn't really have actually merched like she does
and stuff. But like I was, if I had an
interest in a show, I kept it in the closet. Okay,
nobody knew I was into anime in high school, so
you know, there's other types of weaves are introduced to
(15:57):
there as well, with with Crown Neco and soy and
uh and stuff like that. But I feel like it's
such a clickbaity show and that like it has this
uh you know, it has this topic this genre that
it that it covers or like it says it's covering,
and then like the first episode, it starts out like
(16:18):
little Sister's being talked about in the classroom, Little Sisters here,
little Sisters there, and uh, and then it's not really
talked about hardly at all on those So I don't
I don't want to go on too much of a Tirade,
But those first three episodes, I feel like it does
such a good job of kind of it's just the
(16:39):
good show production wise, it's a good show, uh, topic
matter wise or subject matter wise as far as like
how they tackle it, because, like you said, I feel
like in those first three episodes, he's a pretty good
big brother, right he's trying to understand his little sister's
hobby a little bit. He's trying to help her make
friends that have that same hobby. The dad, you know,
slows girls him a little bit, is a little bit
(16:59):
of a sit but he's a good dad, right, Like
it's it's one of those things. So I don't know,
I don't want to gush too much here. I feel
like I'm talking too much, but overall.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
I love hearing the passion.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
Man.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
I think overall it's actually a pretty good start, despite
like me kind of hating the concept and being a
little bit weirded out and like things, but you know what,
it is kind of relatable. I was also a closeted weep.
But I'm also a little bit of anomaly because once
I got the high school and a little yeah, I
laid grade eleven and twelve in high school. I was like,
it's it's it's I feel like a little bit of
(17:33):
anomaly where I would think I was like the jock
that like played sports and like worked out, but like
would also for Halloween coming as fucking Goku and like
wear like anime shirts.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
So and then when I would do it, like it
would be so funny because you get like these mixed
reactions from like a bunch of group of groups of people. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
Yeah, it's a weird thing, right, especially in that time period,
because I mean I also get.
Speaker 4 (17:57):
Did you get bullied as Goku?
Speaker 3 (17:59):
Bro?
Speaker 1 (17:59):
Who's gonna bully?
Speaker 2 (18:00):
Means you got to own it exactly exactly, So I
don't know, it was relatable in some weird ways like that.
And then like like you said, the build up the
episode three where it's like, uh yeah, the dad was
kind of judging it based on the news the brother
stood up for. He's like, you know, because parents are
gonna group it all into that same thing. That's what
(18:20):
my parents did, right. They're like, I don't understand that
anime stuff. It's just you know, it is its thing.
And he's like, you don't understand it, don't don't judge it,
just based on what they say, and he's like, all right,
that's fair. He made some good points, but you know
this is still like a topic where I'm gonna have
to take this away, right, this is still eighteen plus.
And then even the brothers like crap, he's completely right
on this one, right, like it like there's nothing. So
(18:43):
it has that like weird grounded approach where a lot
of the topics they cover are weirdly grounded. The production
value is good.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
Est ended up take. So he agreed with the Daddy's like, yeah,
the eighteen plus games are kind of messed up, especially
like the brother sister dad makes it even weirder right
of the games.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
And he's in the room, he's like this is He's like,
you don't see how this is weird And she's like,
all right, we'll mix reality and games. You freaking weirdo,
Like what you like, what are you doing?
Speaker 3 (19:12):
Right?
Speaker 2 (19:13):
Like uh?
Speaker 1 (19:14):
But you end up taking the Blame's like that's actually
mine and he's like the older brother who it's like, yeah, right,
buddy's a little older. Of course he's gonna have some
mic porn or whatever. But the brothers sister thing is
weird as hell. And then the dad like punched him
in the face, like like you can keep it, you asshole.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
So the weird thing about this show is I feel
like a lot more people liked it universally until it
got towards the end of season two and whatnot right,
and then like it gets a little bit weird in
some of the topics and stuff. People haven't tend to
drop the ratings around that time, but like season one especially,
and then like the obs for season one, I'm like,
that's just a solid show. Like it it felt like
a clickbaity show right, like where it says it's gonna
(19:53):
be one thing and then it's it's really not. It's
covering all these other aspects of the culture. So I
don't know, I feel like those first episodes held up
nostalgia wise.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
It's crazy how much the world has changed as well.
Anime has become so extreme. It's on Netflix. I worked
at a school a little bit doing like like some
supply teaching and stuff, and anime is just so much
more popular and accepted. I feel like some people that
might be listening to this podcast that are younger probably
don't even understand what me and Jordan are saying.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
Like when that's why I had the level stet right, Like, yeah,
in that time period.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
At that time, like when I was in elementary school,
I was scared to talk about anime and manga, and
I was really into it because it was the weird thing.
It was the kid, the thing that the weird kid
was into. And then like it was kind of like
within the show they even talk about how it's like
really not socially like acceptable that you're one of those
(20:48):
webs or takos or whatever even within Japan. So imagine
outside of Japan. Imagine outside of Japan being the one
that's in the or emo, Like that's that's crazy.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
I didn't have to imagine, right, But.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
But funny enough, I feel like as I got older
in high school, it was still kind of thing. But
when I got older, I got more confidence. I just
didn't give a fuck, right, But when I was so worried,
I was so worried in elementary.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
School, honestly, like I was like a little bit worried
about it, but also just I just almost didn't even
really want to deal with it. Like after I like
switch schools, I'm like like a lot of other things, right,
It's not like anime is my personality. Even when I
made a YouTube channel, like I was on the fence,
I'm like, do I want to do basketball? Do I
want to do anime? Things like that? Right, So it's
(21:31):
it's not like it's my whole personality, but it is
something I enjoy and it's like that could be a
part of you, right, and uh, there's nothing wrong with that.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
I do kind of feel like even though anime has
become much more mainstream, the community online isn't as like
it feels like it's smaller, and I don't know if
that's reality, but like nowaday like I feel back in
the day I said, like people that weren't part of
the like the anime community, I feel like they either
thought anime was like Pokemon or porn like or like
(22:00):
hen time. Yeah, like no in between. I think now
everyone know or most people know what anime is. But
despite that, I feel like the community online has died out.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
Yeah. It's weird too in that way because it's like
it's almost like maybe more segmented, because like people do
you kind of go off into their own space a
little bit. And then also, yeah, it's weird. I feel
like a lot of people like myself included. Right, if
you don't have anybody in real life that you can
talk to about anime, that's almost when you go to
(22:31):
that online sphere to talk about it a little bit
more and make friends that have that same interest. And
if you have no problem talking about it to all
your friends in person, right, then it's almost like it's
not gonna have You're not gonna have that same type
of demand for that, right, So it's a it's weird, I.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
Feel like because it was taboo to talk about when
you go online, you would build these niches and these
like groups and stuff. And also it was such a
new thing that I I didn't know a lot about.
So it's like, yeah, I watched Dragon Ball Z and
Pokemon Yu gi oh, and then like some Naruto I
didn't know that it was anime, and then some like
Bleach or whatever on TV, and like I'm using these
(23:08):
YouTube channels and these forums and these chat rooms to
get recommendations because I don't even know where this stuff is.
Now you can go on Netflix and be like, yeah,
all these anime are fucking bangers.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
I just wanted to act.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
You're not wrong, And there are weird parts to anime.
It's one of my favorite things about those first three
episodes of or Email is like how the brother he's
not really into this stuff, right, so like he has
no idea. So like when they're taking him, when she's
hanging out or he's hanging out with her and her
new friends she made online, they're going through agy Habra
and like they're looking at the stuff that is kind
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of associated with some of it, Like they're looking at
dosis and he's like, what the hell and they're like
the doss for Coroneco's thing. It's like bl stuff. He's like,
what the hell? And then like there's like a outfit
from the anime that she likes and it's like Men's
double XL what like, like like what is going on here?
Like he even he was like a little bit flabbergasted
by it, right, So it's like, uh, I don't know.
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It's very self aware and kind of what it's doing, right,
It's like poking fun at it while also will also
kind of broaching the topic and it's doing it in
like a very high production value way for the time.
Like one other thing about this show what I do
I do want to mention is the number of really
good vash and other things that are in this show
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is not really talked about, Like this was kind of
towards the start of a lot of their careers. But like,
I'm not really a big VA guy, but like kanahn Azawa,
let's see, what's another one. I already Hiami, Like they
were both really big characters in this show. And then
U the guy that does the main character is the
same guy that does Gojo from jj K and he
does he did Room and Rider from One punch Man.
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Like they had all these big roles, but before that
they were an or emo, right, so crazy. So I
feel like the production value is really well made and
stuff like that. I don't know how much you guys
focus on h on stuff like that, right, but it's.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
I feel like I don't unless it's bad. Yeah, I
feel like the whole thing is I feel like it
most like appreciate it without overly thinking about it. It's like, yeah,
I enjoyed those things whatever, But when they stand out
enough to dislike or make the show worse is when
they're failing at their job. You know.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
Yeah, I feel like most of the fact that this
show gets will be from later and it's the taboo,
the subject matter, and then it's like it's it's the
fact that people liked the show. And then towards the
end of the season two, like I said, they realize like,
oh crap, it's not as quickbaity as we thought. And
then that's whenever, like the like the scores went down
a lot, and I'm like, that's fair.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
But you know, so it's about who he ends up with,
which is crazy. Anyway, I want to say, the shit
talking between crow Necho and the sister of the crow
Necho is my favorite character. So good.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
Oh yeah, girl, fast girl.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
Anyway, recon any final thoughts on this even quiet, any
thoughts on this anime before we move on.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
I'm just don't worry. I'm just listening to nearly thirty
year old men talking about Little Sister anime and and
that's pretty fun. I'm not gonna lie fair. But anyways,
aside from that, to end things off, to all your
viewers who are watching, if you pretty much like Little
Sister animes, and you know the etchy games and the
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brother and sister relationship and the sister teaching her brother
about all these erotic games and he's keeping up her
secrets so she looks perfect in school and all that
and otaku culture. Then check out ori Emo and also
don't forget to check out Edomanga sense because it kind
of ties in with Odaimo. And then at the end
of Edlmannga Sensey, you can also see the characters from
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Odiimo and they all meet up together and like, it's
pretty nice and all that. But yeah, other than that,
it's a pretty shit show.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
Yeah, I still enjoy it. I thought the at least
season one, I figured those first three episodes they held
up after twelve years. So but man, you know, you
know why I picked this show, right? I put a
Twitter like shows and this one won it. They were
all little sister shows just for the lulls, but uh
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I did it because I was like, they didn't like
bang Dream, I need to make them suffer for a
bit before we move on to other stuff. And then
this one won, so uh so I got to revisit
the Nostalgia had the Blue rays back here.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
So yeah, speaking of suffering, right, speaking of suffering, recon
how did you like Kenyan Ashra?
Speaker 3 (27:30):
This was one of the worst shit I've ever seen. Painful, painful,
It was so difficult to watch. It is so ugly.
It was probably on the ugliness level of the Berserk
twenty sixteen and twenty seventeen version. I hate it so much.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
I don't know if I know that far.
Speaker 4 (27:49):
I just don't.
Speaker 3 (27:49):
I don't. There's something about it. It's just I don't
like full CGI anime. The fight scenes and all that, like,
it just ruins it. They weren't good. The characters are boring. Yeah, yeah,
this anime is all about fighting and becoming the best
and all that. But it's like, nah, it ain't for me, man,
I can't.
Speaker 4 (28:08):
Do it, Okay.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
I actually yeah, if you and before you continue on,
I did skim through every single episode to watch every
single episode.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
You mean, like, yeah, the three episodes you were supposed
to watch, or like the entire show.
Speaker 3 (28:30):
The three episodes that I was supposed to recond.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
You have to do your homework. You have to do
your homework recon This is ridiculous.
Speaker 3 (28:38):
The whole I did.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
I didn't recommend animate to each other that we think
the like. For example, the concept of our EMO is
something I would never like, right, But then it's the
prizes that's with the quality and some of the things.
And then we have a conversation about it. Bro, you're
watching the three episodes for next week, and now we
have to watch six. Recon you have to watch six
for next week. You have to do your homework.
Speaker 3 (29:01):
Look, I did put it on like two times or fourth.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
That's fine, things up.
Speaker 4 (29:09):
I just didn't like it.
Speaker 3 (29:10):
I didn't like it at all.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
There's the difference between giving and I think even one
point five is a little a little fast, But I'll
do it at one point five to I forgot to rate,
But one point three I actually love anime at that speed.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
Yeah, I know we did the same thing for for
Bang Dream, right, so maybe we need to give a
little bit of a break from c GI anime. But
if you.
Speaker 3 (29:33):
Guys amend me shitty anime that I'm not gonna enjoy,
this is what's gonna happen.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
But you also forgot to rate.
Speaker 3 (29:40):
Well.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
The thing is, I know there's a lot of overlap
in our taste, right, but for entertainments sake, I've tried
to make an effort to like recommend stuff that I
know you guys would never watch otherwise but still has
like some aspect of it that we can enjoy, right,
or like that has some redeemable aspects to it, so uh.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
So why do they deemable aspects? Ken and Astra looks ugly.
I will absolutely admiss when you watch read it. When
you watch the first episode and you see Yamashita's face,
you're like, what the fuck is this series? This bobblehead
looking character with three d cgi. He's looking like an
Ogre from Devil May Cry. But I will say it
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is one of those shows that it's better and better
that it's got badass fights and the choreography of the
fight is not only good but obviously maybe there's some
unrealistic things in the first episodes, but once you get
to the tournament, some of the grappling and the moves
are so like you could tell the author really cared
about martial arts.
Speaker 3 (30:39):
And Haaki better, Baki better.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
I think I might like hanganash for better than Baki.
Speaker 3 (30:46):
You did not just no way, there's no way you
like the better than Baki.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
I have not seen the Netflix version of Baki, but like,
based on the original version, like this reminded me a
lot of that. So I see the comparison, and I
think they have like a some type of collaboration at
some point right where it's like Baki versus Kim Gan
ashera evering.
Speaker 3 (31:05):
That was actually pretty good? What what do you mean
that was shit?
Speaker 1 (31:10):
That was okay because it was in two D. Look
because it was in two D and the fighting was better.
You made me watch a shitty, cgi fully.
Speaker 3 (31:19):
Animated show where the characters are all ugly and the
fight scenes are terrible.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
I don't get how we can disagree on everything. This
is crazy sucks, Blockie is better.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
Literally, just the fact is three D breaks. I don't
think you understand.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
I know, I know.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
But uh, I will say I actually enjoyed King and
ashra I. I didn't love the first three episodes, but
I will say I got to that point at episode
three where I actually will probably keep watching this one
too at some point if I can find the chance.
Not as high on the priority as Double May Cry,
but like it ended at episode three, at a point
where it felt like it was about to start, like
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it was about to actually start, if that makes sense,
because of the like it set up a turn, and
then like that ended the three episodes where I was
watching it, I'm like, dang, I want to keep going.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
I will say I don't think the first three episodes
are overly amazing. I think they're okay. It does get better,
but having watched the entire series, I love the first
three episodes like I appreciate it more knowing things that
I know now, which isn't always the best, but it's
sometimes good when you're able to look back, even without rewatching,
and be like, oh, I see why they did that.
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I that this is that's interesting, that's cool. I know
why this character was chosen for this, et cetera, et cetera.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
M and I love martial arts type anime. I will admit, Uh,
it's a big bias of mine. So one of those
first big fights that we had, I think episode two
whenever they you know, they have the actual tournament fight
with the uh I forget his name, but the dude
with the grip, strength and Whatnotuh did that fight started?
(32:52):
The first sequen's happened and there's no commentary. I paused it.
I broke down what happened, and then I unposited it,
and then they broke down what happened. So I don't
like them explaining it like I like, I like how
on point it was, but they basically said the same
thing that I did about you know, uh, him kind
of leaning into the punch to like where he doesn't
fully extend where it's like kind of cuts an hour
and a half on the counter, right, things things like
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that where I'm like, there's attention to detail there.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
And you do that's just the beginning of the attend
the detail. That's like, oh yeah, I will say they
do that the entire series everything.
Speaker 2 (33:26):
Which I don't mind is but like that's that's an
anime thing, right, That's just me being nitpicky, but uh
but yeah, like that and the Fighting episode three, they
definitely go to extremes where I'm like, the Fighting episode three, man,
I was like, no, he's dead, Like what do you
mean this fight's gonna keep going now? He's dead? Like
they broke his back spinal like verbal German suplex. Okay,
(33:47):
Like yeah, it's one of those things where it takes
like an entertaining thing like fighting, and the reason I
enjoyed Baki and stuff like that is like it takes
it to the extreme right. It's like, what but what
if they weren't so fragile like most of them are.
What if they just kept going and just kept doing
all these cool things and I don't know. It's a
fun series.
Speaker 1 (34:04):
I enjoyed it, so yeah, it's it's super graphic at times,
and they make things look like really the injuries look
really really bad, but like they're also just able to
keep on fighting. It's crazy. In regards to explaining everything.
Later on in the series, a character that loses in
the tournament, that like lost in a way that they
didn't fucking get destroyed, becomes an announcer for the tournament
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so that he could explain things more technically was going.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
That, And like, I wonder what the nine tailed fox
aspect is going on in the episode three, like the
foreshadows a lie, right, Like I feel like if the
first three episodes barely touch on the surface of like
what it's hinting at. So I don't know. I wanted
to watch more of this one too. Freaking Internet bro,
it makes me sad.
Speaker 3 (34:47):
I don't watch Berserk twenty sixteen, twenty seventeen. If you actually,
if you guys, don't do that, go and watch the
fucking new Berserk show.
Speaker 2 (34:56):
If I could do it, I don't. I have I have.
Berserk's my favorite mongo. Okay, that's cool, that's cool.
Speaker 4 (35:03):
Fighting choreography.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
No, he's got to get us back. He's trying to
get us back. You know what, Recon. You know what,
after we finished the nineteen ninety seven Berserk, I will
watch the twenty sixteen Berserk and see how it transitions.
I will, Oh god, I will do it.
Speaker 2 (35:18):
No fair enough, I might do the same.
Speaker 3 (35:20):
Then.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
I've always avoided watching that one. I've never actually watched
the twenty sixteen version. I heard the pot sound in
episode one, or like the sounded like the oh, that
is perfect sound design, and I just I just stopped
right then and there. I'm like, I'm good.
Speaker 1 (35:32):
Okay. I want to say Recon. I may have failed
with Kenanashra, I may have failed with a lot of
other anime. You do need to actually watch them, I
will say, you do need to actually watch them. You
can't skim no skimming.
Speaker 4 (35:43):
No I did, I did.
Speaker 3 (35:43):
I just watched it in like really fast speed.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
That's fine, that's a better experience, But skimming, I'm gonna say,
you have to watch it. You can't just fucking like
I'm gonna skip up so two watch half of the
episode one, you know, but I will say Recon least
I succeeded with the Berserk or I thought I did.
You didn't do your homework for that either, but I
will do it for next week. You like at least
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you said you like nineteen ninety seven Berserk, which is
an old anime that doesn't look that good.
Speaker 4 (36:13):
I'll do it for next week.
Speaker 1 (36:14):
Okay, So episode four through six of Berserk for next week.
For sure. We do need to still rate or Emo
and hanging on.
Speaker 2 (36:21):
Oh yeah, or Emo, So.
Speaker 1 (36:25):
I'm going to give you like a six point four.
Speaker 3 (36:28):
I'm gonna give or Emo a five.
Speaker 2 (36:31):
Okay. I actually raised my rating of Rimo after rewatching
those first three episodes. I still have season two and
the Oba is rated really low.
Speaker 3 (36:39):
But like, do you have a manga collection of Emo? Jordan?
Speaker 2 (36:43):
I don't. One. It was a white novel and I've
never read it, but I have the Blue Rays right here,
so I try to, like, oh, get a lot of
the anime IFC and on Blu Ray if I can.
So this one's out of print.
Speaker 3 (36:56):
If you want, Jordan, I can recommend you a whole
bunch more of Little Sister anime if that's what you're into.
Speaker 2 (37:01):
I've probably already seen them all, you know, you know.
But uh, but see, you gotta be very you gotta
be uh. I don't know. There's certain qualities to it
that are very important. Ricon okay as a conosur of
anime in general, Like they're and a girlfriend, uh mangaka right,
Like he has a new series that's airing this season, right,
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and people try to recommend that one to me, and
I'm like, no, what do you mean, Like that one's
awful one. They're all adopted. Okay, it's only good when
they're blood related Ricon.
Speaker 4 (37:32):
Right, Okay, it's okay, that's crazy.
Speaker 2 (37:36):
I'm kidding. I'm kidding, but that's that's a quote from
the Aliya Hyder Feelings in Russian anime that was recent
that the line cracked me up, where they're going off
about that. But but yeah, I don't know what were
we talking about again? I started rambling here, just oh yeah,
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I think I had like a six point five or seven.
Speaker 1 (38:00):
Okay, what about guys.
Speaker 3 (38:02):
I'll give that a one or a two garbage.
Speaker 2 (38:07):
No, I'm gonna give it a five point five for
those first three episodes. But I see the potential. I
see the vision. Okay, I think for the.
Speaker 1 (38:16):
First three i'd probably give it like a five, like
a six, maybe like like five point five. Like it's
nothing crazy, but I do. I am a big, big
fan of Kang and Astra guys. I would recommend it
to people watching.
Speaker 2 (38:27):
It's one of those where like you could tell it's
setting up stuff, right, I'm excited. I'm actually excited for
the tournament. Tournament arcs and anime are underrated, Okay, Tournament
arcs are some of the most hype arcs, especially with
like martial arts and stuff.
Speaker 1 (38:38):
I think like the next like two seasons, like the
next thirty plus episodes is literally just a tournament, like
the same tournament. Like they did a couple King and
Austra matches, but did a tournament coming up? And I
think really the the rest of the season one and
all the season two is just the tournament.
Speaker 2 (38:58):
Okay, that and that makes sense to me.
Speaker 1 (39:00):
That's so.
Speaker 2 (39:01):
Did you ever watch the original Baki prior to the
Netflix one?
Speaker 1 (39:04):
Like I did? I know?
Speaker 2 (39:05):
I think the Netflix one like continues it right or something.
Speaker 1 (39:07):
Yes, it's after he like was one of the one
of the tournaments.
Speaker 2 (39:11):
Yeah, so season one was pretty good for the original Baki.
I haven't seen it forever, but like season two, like
the whole I didn't finish season two. I think I
almost finished it, but like the entirety of what I remember,
it's like all the tournament, Like the entire thing is
just a tournament. I'm like, oh my god, this thing
just keeps going. It was fun, It was good, but yeah, tournament.
Speaker 1 (39:29):
I really enjoyed the original Blokie as well. I think
the Netflix Blockie is really really over the top and
still very fun and good. It just not I didn't
like it as much cause I always appreciate like more
of like an underdog coming up and growing up, which
like original Blockie, he was a beast, but like he
went through a lot a lot of different training and stuff.
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Netflix Blockie is like he's already the champion, and he's
already all these strong characters that we've met, and then
they just interviewed a bunch of more strong characters and
to like fight.
Speaker 2 (40:00):
The original Baki, like they introduced me. They're like he's
a monster for his age, Like you look at all
these workouts he's doing and stuff. But then like there's
so many monsters in that show with like his you know,
his dad being like the main one Usualrrohanma.
Speaker 1 (40:13):
BUTA is the biggest. It's crazy.
Speaker 2 (40:17):
It scares me.
Speaker 1 (40:19):
But he stopped at earthquake with his face. The US military, Yeah, boots,
we're going to war. We'll just drop you your ahnma
in the forest. Do you have a new or missiles?
We'll just drop you your ahnma into the battlefield.
Speaker 2 (40:37):
Oh my god, I've forgotten star that that's actually a
good recommendation. I might have to change what I what
I recommend here.
Speaker 1 (40:45):
Do you guys know what you want to recommend for
next week? Recon? Do you have any ideas?
Speaker 3 (40:51):
Have you guys seen with story as Wand and Sword?
Speaker 1 (40:56):
I have not.
Speaker 2 (40:56):
I have not.
Speaker 4 (40:58):
Great.
Speaker 3 (40:59):
That is anime that I want you that the ma
is like similar to Mashall. Yeah, it's very similar to Maschall.
It's called Wistoria's wand Sword w Jordan.
Speaker 1 (41:09):
Do you have an idea?
Speaker 2 (41:12):
I'm torn. Do you guys want something good or something
maybe just like a little bit more.
Speaker 3 (41:17):
That's up to you. Either you make us want something
good or you make us suffer.
Speaker 1 (41:21):
It's up to you. Fun.
Speaker 2 (41:22):
Fun, Okay, No, I'm not gonna do c g I
this okay, fun all right, I'm gonna do with the
recommendation I just saw in the chat then, because I
did enjoy this series more than I think most people.
But it's an a guy okay, and it's called Katsu
seen it.
Speaker 3 (41:43):
Working with a god, working with a god in a
godless world. I've seen that.
Speaker 2 (41:47):
I figured that one might be funny just because there's
c g I in it, and the CGI has done
bad on purpose, So like, yeah, but okay, I'm gonna
go back to my original thing. Then Okay, I'm gonna
recommend something good. So to make sure that you guys
appreciate the uh production value that goes into different anime
and stuff, I'm wanna. I wanna recommend an anime about
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making anime. So I know we felt a little bit
short with h with the the anime about making manga
because Recon doesn't read manga, he doesn't like manga, et cetera.
So what about an anime about making anime? Chier Obaco, oh
she Blaka Cheero.
Speaker 1 (42:27):
I've heard good things about that.
Speaker 2 (42:29):
It's really highly acclaimed. I enjoy it a lot. It
is stressful because it literally does feel like they're just working.
So I gotta get home from work and I was
already stressed at work and then I'm watching them work
the works. Yeah, it's an anime originals, so like PA
Works does a lot of anime original stuff. It was
very high quality. Twenty fourteen is when.
Speaker 3 (42:48):
I started in twenty fifteen, so yeah, I could definitely
check that out.
Speaker 2 (42:53):
Cheerabaka is a good one. I'm I'm I'm gonna go
with that. Then.
Speaker 3 (42:58):
Oh, I've seen this.
Speaker 5 (42:59):
I've seen in a clip on this on YouTube with
the girl dancing and she's she's she's saying like she's
she's saying it in like different numbers and in different languages.
Speaker 4 (43:10):
I've seen the clip when we're dancing.
Speaker 2 (43:12):
Yeah, it's not in three episodes, but I like that's
three episodes and that clip it is adorable.
Speaker 1 (43:20):
How do we decide that's really choice? That's right, we're
gonna do chat choice.
Speaker 3 (43:25):
Oh I don't know.
Speaker 1 (43:26):
I don't know how to decide chat's choice.
Speaker 2 (43:28):
Are we doing chat's choice? Are we making ric watchcause.
Speaker 1 (43:32):
We don't get over ricon? You're watching four through six
in that's right, Okay.
Speaker 2 (43:38):
I don't want to.
Speaker 3 (43:40):
I mean, if you want to make another recommendation, sure,
I'll make sure to watch out.
Speaker 1 (43:45):
We can't overdo it. But let's just definitely watch Berserk please, Okay, okay, okay, okay,
I wanna. I'm trying to think of what I want
to recommend the problems I feel bad. He want like
giving riecon anime he's not interested in at all.
Speaker 2 (43:59):
M hmm.
Speaker 1 (44:00):
But I did doubinely Cry this week, which was not bad.
But I also did Kenyon Ashra. I got two picks
last week for some reason.
Speaker 3 (44:05):
I know, even though I've already seen the crime.
Speaker 1 (44:10):
Oh yeah, you had already, but it was it's new.
It came out like a week ago or like two
weeks ago.
Speaker 3 (44:14):
Yeah, yeah, I've watched it when it was released. I
watched it.
Speaker 2 (44:17):
When we watch this stuff, hmmm.
Speaker 1 (44:22):
Keng was chat apparently Kan was chat to Ashita no Joe.
Speaker 3 (44:31):
What Ashita is that?
Speaker 1 (44:34):
What it's called that?
Speaker 2 (44:35):
Ashia no Joe? Is that what you're recommending?
Speaker 3 (44:37):
Though?
Speaker 1 (44:38):
As she Ashina, I don't know, Joe. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (44:42):
It's one of the original the very old sports anime,
Boxing one.
Speaker 1 (44:45):
It came out the mom came out in No. The
anime came out in nineteen seventy.
Speaker 3 (44:55):
No, please, I don't want to watch it.
Speaker 2 (44:58):
Even I struggled to try to watch the first step.
So this looks like garbage.
Speaker 4 (45:03):
Man, I can't watch this. Something else.
Speaker 1 (45:06):
I'm gonna test you on episode two, three thirteen minutes
in Ricon is gonna hate it? I feel bad. I
feel bad.
Speaker 4 (45:15):
Are you sure your decision is at To No Joe?
Speaker 3 (45:18):
Like?
Speaker 1 (45:18):
I trying to think of trying to think of an
alternative right now, but I can't think of who the.
Speaker 3 (45:23):
Who the hell wants us to?
Speaker 4 (45:24):
Who the hell wants us to watch and talk about
this show?
Speaker 1 (45:27):
I kind of I kind of just want to watch.
I've never watched it before.
Speaker 4 (45:30):
Seventy nine episodes. Also, oh my god.
Speaker 1 (45:34):
They reference it in so many anime They always reference.
Speaker 2 (45:36):
To Shoot the No Joe in Bacubon. That's the main characters,
you know, that's an anime about making manga or manga
about making manga. That's the main character's favorite series that
he always like looks back on or like draws inspiration
from his oh ash to No Joe just a classic.
Speaker 1 (45:52):
Hmm, anything else? I know we're gonna do a Shoot the.
Speaker 3 (45:56):
No Joe.
Speaker 2 (46:00):
As.
Speaker 1 (46:03):
We got a lot of variety this week, guys, we
had a lot of variety. I recommend Astro.
Speaker 2 (46:07):
Boy, we're working our way to it. Yeah, Cherrabacco and
what was Ricon's again.
Speaker 4 (46:17):
On Wistoria's wand and sword?
Speaker 2 (46:20):
That actually, that's one I I have not heard much about,
so I just know it's a little bit newer.
Speaker 3 (46:25):
Right came out last year.
Speaker 1 (46:27):
So it's a picture. Is that he's watching next week
astro boy?
Speaker 2 (46:32):
Oh god, I guess before before we wrap it up?
Which you hate more? Like really old anime that's two
D or c G I like? I hate both too much.
You gotta have I hate.
Speaker 3 (46:46):
I hate enemy that is like fully c G I
and ugly looking, and I hate old looking, bad quality anime.
Speaker 4 (46:53):
That's what I can't watch is you.
Speaker 1 (46:55):
Can't choose both which one you hate? You can only
hate more.
Speaker 2 (46:59):
I'm trying to be reference is a little bit, but if.
Speaker 3 (47:01):
I really wanted to hate something more, it would be
fully CGI anime.
Speaker 1 (47:07):
Okay, this is a picture of what I said recon
that he's gonna watch next week as a boy.
Speaker 2 (47:17):
If we're learning about history, may.
Speaker 1 (47:18):
Try and find an anime with no words. That's it.
It's like we're gonna watching black and white Japanese film.
Speaker 2 (47:28):
Oh god, the ogs.
Speaker 3 (47:32):
You guys, if you guys make me suffer this much,
I will recommend something that you guys won't like.
Speaker 1 (47:38):
You should have done it that time. Anyway, I hope
everyone enjoyed. Remember to check out the anime dude and
recon anime Recon on YouTube and Twitch and other platforms Twitter.
It's been a pretty good episode, guys, and I'll see
you all next week.
Speaker 2 (47:56):
Okay, that was good, chin.
Speaker 3 (48:00):
Heh.
Speaker 1 (48:00):
Yeah,
Absolutely not. No, yo, What is up? Boys? How's it going?
And welcome back to another episode of the Rant Cafe
Anime Podcast. We're doing it again, boys, we're talking about anime.
Who would have thought not me? All right with me?
Today we got Jordan the anime dude. What's up dude?
Speaker 2 (00:20):
What's up everybody? How are you doing today?
Speaker 1 (00:22):
And this dude made me, made us watch Aura Emo.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Yeah, we can talk about that here in a bit if.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
Okay, And we also have Recon, the King of Bad Taste.
What's up man?
Speaker 3 (00:35):
What up?
Speaker 4 (00:35):
Guys?
Speaker 3 (00:36):
It is good to be back. The name is Recon
and we're here to suffer once more with you know,
the trash that we recommend to each other.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
So yeah, all right, King of Trash Taste, I'm coming
for your title one of these days.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
George coming for man. He really is on that note
talking about bad taste. Recon did not do his homework
and did not watch Berzerk.
Speaker 4 (00:58):
Yeah about that.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
We also forced him to watch Kangan Austra, so we're
gonna say that is his pick, I guess. And then
I'm Briggs, guys, and I recommended Devil May Cry and
I watched the entire thing and we'll talk about that
right now. Actually, Devil may cry. What did you guys think?
Speaker 4 (01:19):
Now you go first?
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Okay, Okay, So I never knew much about the uh
the old game or the old series. I just kind
of knew it existed. I knew it was a thing.
And I talked to a couple of fans that did
enjoy that old stuff, and they weren't really a big
fan of this series, but they said that people that
are coming into it new will like it. So that
was like the only preconceptions I had prior to going in.
(01:42):
I went in pretty blind. Those first three episodes were fun.
I enjoyed it a lot. It was it was a
good time. It had a good mix of like comedy,
uh like Dante's style of comedy kind of rolled with me.
It had some good action, It had uh had a
little bit of everything, to be honest, and just in
those first three episodes, and more importantly than anything, like
what stuck out to me as I watched it was
(02:02):
Dante's mom kind of has it going on, bro, she
stole the show for me, Like you got like the
best wife of that anime season already, like determined it's great.
Uh So yeah, I don't have too much to complain
about with it thus far. I've only seen those three episodes.
I've been having some Internet issues fair.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
But uh recon thoughts on Devil May Cry.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
Right, So, as a person who has played almost all
the Devil May Cry games on Xbox and PlayStation and
the most recent one, Devil May Cry five, this was
very okay ish. It just my my my issue is
(02:44):
that it didn't really feel like the Devil May Cry
that I truly wanted. You know, Dante is like one
of the most perfect, greatest fictional characters in gaming history,
and for him to be here, it's it's awesome, But
he wasn't the Dante that I knew from the games,
and he had so little screen time because from what
(03:06):
I got from the series, he's not really the main character,
even though he's cool and badass and he uses dual
pistols and demon hunts and yeah, he's he's good looking
and ship, but he wasn't really the main character because
the main characters were I think Lady and the White Rabbit.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
I think I would say he's more or less the
main character, but they followed other characters quite a bit. Yeah,
a lot of moving parts.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
They followed. They followed Lady and the White Rabbit more
and showed their backstory and ship, which was which was interesting,
but I really wanted to see more of Dante. He
was more or less mostly in the middle and less
in the beginning and at the end. Got it?
Speaker 2 (03:49):
What is there gonna be like a season two? Is
there gonna be more of it? Because it's like an episode.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
I genuinely have no idea it.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
They ended in a way that there will be a
season two. I will say, I have my issues. I
didn't play the games, so I'm not gonna be critiquing
little things that they changed about the characters or his
weapons like his guns and stuff. There was a lot
of like little nitpicks I saw online, which completely understandable.
I watched the Leelo and Stitch live action. I'm like,
why is that guy's why? Why? What is that guy's
(04:22):
voice not sound cool and have an accent? And what
happened to Bubbles? Oh wait? No, Bubbles is coming later?
Like I will nitpick little things because of that.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
Where is Captain?
Speaker 3 (04:30):
Oh wait?
Speaker 1 (04:34):
Anyway, but there are some positives episode six. I know
we weren't technically required to watch all of the episode six.
Episode six was one of the best pieces of cinema
and direction I have seen in a long time. It
was not a single word was said for twenty five
minutes in the episode. It was fully an AMV this
(04:56):
episode telling two backstories transpiring at the same people being
shaped by their surroundings and seeing the darkness and like
the light of both worlds in a way, just to
be crushed in the end. And it was just like,
I don't even want I'm trying to speak very vaguely,
as you guys can tell, I'm like, try to speak
very very vaguely. I want them to experience it and
(05:16):
enjoy it without like going into what exactly happened. But
it was absolutely gorgeous. I think the White Rabbit is
an amazing villain and character. And the choreography of some
of Dante's fights, some of them are like cgi and
shit that were looked ugly and bad. Some of them
(05:37):
were talk to your choreography. The music always hit. I
think my one complaint was because they only had eight episodes,
sometimes it just felt like, Hey, we're gonna tell you
all this stuff real quick. So the opposite of episode six,
some other episodes like episode one, the first chapter there, like,
let's drop all the lore, all the plot, all the
story real quick so we could get into the thick
of it, right, And they did that. Then they did
(06:00):
it one other time where I'm just like, they probably
didn't have to just give me dialogue for the last
two minutes just to catch me up with what's going
on and like explain a bunch of stuff. They could
have showed it or did it in a more interesting way.
That's my one complaint. But I will say episode six
makes this series it's worth watching.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
Okay, just episode six breaks.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
Really almost every episode was thirty minutes. It was kind
of dragged.
Speaker 4 (06:26):
The action was Did.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
You watch episode did you watch up with six recons?
Did you get it?
Speaker 3 (06:30):
It was pretty cool?
Speaker 1 (06:31):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (06:32):
I watched it all right, Yeah I finished it. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
I think the reveal for the Rabbit was good. I
think like there was so much don't don't spoil ricon
for Jordan.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
No, I'm not gonna spoil it for even the ending.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
The twists and turns towards the end were quite good.
I like Lady or whatever. Maybe her name was Maria,
but Dante called.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
Her lady Mary, Mary, lady whatever.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
I liked her as a character quite a bit watching
her like struggle, her hatred for demons, her struggle.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
She's the different colored eyes girl. It's like a human hunter.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
Okay, yeah, she's like the police lady or whatever, like yeah, yeah,
yeah that one.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
It was also a twist at the end with her
and Dante and stuff happened at the end, which I
wasn't like, I think, I don't get a process what happened,
but I think there was certain moments of development for
her as a character that I really appreciated.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
Virgil was my favorite character. I don't know, he wasn't
there much, but like he's just one of my favorites,
especially from the games.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
I Am the Star.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
That is a proching if you got to play that,
you got to play the games.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
Brother, Yeah, and I will say that's that's where I
ended off is as I love how they did that
reveal because it's very subtle. Right the end of episode three,
the shape shifter that had turned into his brother says, oh, yeah,
I can only turn into somebody else, like if that
person's alive, right, So, so like that was such a
(08:00):
that a little drop where I'm like, oh my god, Okay,
Like I get what that implies, like it kind of
spells it out for you, but it's also it doesn't
say it right, So I don't know. I love the
Show Not Tell type of storytelling. Yeah, and I will
say I remember critiquing a little bit of the first
episode two where it's doing an info dump, but I'm like,
we probably need that a little bit, right, Like there's
(08:20):
a lot of series I do that that's a a
very common sin. But hearing you talk about episode six
gets me excited then, because I love it when they
take that show Not Tell and they do it to
an extreme. And some of the fights up to this
point were also really good. You got the episode two
they had a fight where you know, they jumped them.
I don't agree that they I feel like they should
(08:42):
have tried to talk it out first, you know, maybe
maybe tried diplomatic reasoning, like hey, can we borrow that
real quick and then give it.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
Back, or talking about when they were a test with
taking back the amulet, right.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
Yeah, yeah, but they all jump them. You know, they're
fighting in the dark, and I feel like that was
such a cool little action action scene the little cheese
yet times but like whenever you have a character that
can take a gun shot and it's not fatal, it
makes it to where seems like that feel less cheesy
in a way because he does get shot right, like
you think he takes like a shotgun shot through what
he doesn't?
Speaker 3 (09:13):
Yeah, and do you know why he doesn't die?
Speaker 4 (09:15):
Though?
Speaker 3 (09:15):
Do you know much about Jordan?
Speaker 2 (09:18):
Yeah? I think it's kind of you know what, do
you know what he is? He's he's like half demon,
right because his dad's the Uh yeah, uh, he's like
that his mom was banging. Oh what's his name?
Speaker 3 (09:29):
The word is he's in the felm. So he's like
half demon, half angel and he's like he's got some
cool powers and ship.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
Can I just say one thing about this show that's
kind of great is by the end I was feeling
bad for the demons and kind of want like a
show that's not black and white. Oh, human's good, Demon's bad.
They did that to a crazy degree. Towards the end
rum it's like, but like, why can't they come here?
(10:01):
Like they should just come live in harmony. Some monsters
will come, but then we'll just hunt them, you know,
hunters are four. Like I was like team Demon at
a point, I'm like, wait, this is kind of crazy.
Is that an eight episode show was doing this to me?
Speaker 2 (10:15):
It's weird because you can usually kind of go either
way with an approach to a to a topic like that,
But whenever the main character himself is like a half half,
I feel like that's usually when they take the approach.
He just kind of stated, So I've been kind of
waiting for that pin to drop. But uh yeah, overall
that that fight scene from episode two is good. Fight
(10:35):
scene from episode three was good. They had freaking popa
roach playing as they have like a high speed chase,
and I felt like the oddball watching that one because uh,
you know, I was reacting to it and I'm like,
do you think insurance covers like red and blue ogres
just like slamming indo you on the highway? And yeah,
like that's where my mind was going. But at the
(10:56):
same time, it was it was a crazy fool scene, right,
So I don't know. I enjoyed those first three episodes
a lot.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
So you two should play Devil May Crime five. I
think you will really enjoy that if you wanted to.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
I will say it made me want to dive back
into like the older media, just because of older fans
saying that like they had preferred that even more. And
I'm like, I could see how this is maybe like
based off of an old ip where where they maybe
cleaned up some aspects of it in a way that
people wouldn't like. So I'm like, I kind of want
to see what the original was, like, I don't know.
It has my interest, so here's my interest.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
Yeah, I think this is one of the pretty good show.
I'm I'm excited for a potential season two. I think
the fact that I was willing to watch all eight
episodes for this podcast kind of speaks volumes as well.
Even though I recommended it, I hadn't seen it yet
seen it yet, I recommended it, I wanted to watch.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
Yeah, I wanted to watch all lighted. I still need to.
I will, I will. I'm not gonna leave this when unfinished.
It's only eight episodes, so it'd be a sin if
I week.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
If you do finish the remainder of the episodes, we'll
talk about it a little bit more next week. Okay,
sounds good, Okay, I'm down to actually let's write it.
What are guys writing it?
Speaker 3 (12:09):
Out of ten, I'll give it a six point five
out of ten.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
You know, I was about to say the same, but
I don't want to be a copycat, so I'm gonna
bump it up to a six point nine. There we go.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
Perfect. Literally if I only like genuinely, I think because
I didn't play the games I only complay with sometimes
they would just like say a lot of stuff so
they could keep on going and get things done faster. Honestly,
I'm giving to get like close to an eight, maybe
like a seven point eight out of ten. Okay, those
last two episodes are just like or like six and
seven I really liked.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
Okay, let's talk about or Emo.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
Yeah, why you guys go on this one? Won't you
think My Little Sister can't be this cute?
Speaker 4 (12:55):
One of the shittiest shows I've ever seen.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
Back then? What the same director as Aero manga sense? Uh?
Speaker 2 (13:03):
It literally the same author, Yeah, same.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
Author, the exact same concept of little sisters, and they're
fetish that they're trying to fucking hide while they're why
they try to appear perfect? Yeah, it's just like it's
so mad.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
First, Okay, that's a lot.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
I know I hate the concept, but I kind of
ended up enjoying the first three episodes. Man, Like, at
one on like this fucking thought's why and why is
Jordan doing this to me? I'm like as two, I'm like, yeah,
she made friends. Episode three, I'm like the brother standing
up for her sister. Let's go. I'm like a got
oddly wholesome, despite the concept being the most cursed thing.
(13:48):
I kind of hate thank you.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
It's all it's you know, that's the that's the best
phrase I think I could have wanted to hear right there.
I'm okay with that. It's it's a good sum up.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
So yeah, I really enjoyed watching the brother stand up
to the dad for his like his sister, who like
for the most part, is like a really good person,
gets good grades, like has a great like appearance wise
ten out of ten in every aspect, as like a
daughter should be. But she also is like really enjoys anime, manga,
(14:20):
video games, and of course some of them. The dad
had his point too, some of them are over eighteen,
and she should probably not be playing that as like
a fucking twelve or thirteen year old girl, right, And
so they both had their like kind of perspectives and
I don't know. I enjoyed it quite a bit. But
what I liked was the brother stood up for the fact.
It's like, Okay, you can't just tell her not to
like play these things because online and like on TV,
(14:43):
people are saying that this is weird. Yeah, let her
have her hobby, let her have her passion. She's literally
the perfect fucking daughter. Other than that, so can.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
I level set? I guess a little bit on this one.
I haven't seen this in like twelve years, right, Like
I originally watched this when I was around like sixteen
or so, right when it kind of came out in
like twenty ten, And uh, I rewatched it in like
twenty twelve when season two came out, so like it'd
been a while since I've since I've seen this, and
I rewatched those first three episodes, and I also feel
(15:12):
like it just kind of held up right because what
originally I feel like the big appeal to this series
was was one you got to put yourself in that
time period, right, is a time period where anime was
stigmatized way more in general it than it kind of
would be now. So so you know that and a
lot of the characters in the show are specific types
of uh you know, I guess you'd say archetypes of
(15:35):
like weaves and whatnot. So for me back then, and
one of the reasons to have nostalgia for this show
is I actually related to Kirio a little bit. I
was a closet weep. I had a lot of stuff
or I didn't really have actually merched like she does
and stuff. But like I was, if I had an
interest in a show, I kept it in the closet. Okay,
nobody knew I was into anime in high school, so
you know, there's other types of weaves are introduced to
(15:57):
there as well, with with Crown Neco and soy and
uh and stuff like that. But I feel like it's
such a clickbaity show and that like it has this
uh you know, it has this topic this genre that
it that it covers or like it says it's covering,
and then like the first episode, it starts out like
(16:18):
little Sister's being talked about in the classroom, Little Sisters here,
little Sisters there, and uh, and then it's not really
talked about hardly at all on those So I don't
I don't want to go on too much of a Tirade,
But those first three episodes, I feel like it does
such a good job of kind of it's just the
(16:39):
good show production wise, it's a good show, uh, topic
matter wise or subject matter wise as far as like
how they tackle it, because, like you said, I feel
like in those first three episodes, he's a pretty good
big brother, right he's trying to understand his little sister's
hobby a little bit. He's trying to help her make
friends that have that same hobby. The dad, you know,
slows girls him a little bit, is a little bit
(16:59):
of a sit but he's a good dad, right, Like
it's it's one of those things. So I don't know,
I don't want to gush too much here. I feel
like I'm talking too much, but overall.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
I love hearing the passion.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
Man.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
I think overall it's actually a pretty good start, despite
like me kind of hating the concept and being a
little bit weirded out and like things, but you know what,
it is kind of relatable. I was also a closeted weep.
But I'm also a little bit of anomaly because once
I got the high school and a little yeah, I
laid grade eleven and twelve in high school. I was like,
it's it's it's I feel like a little bit of
(17:33):
anomaly where I would think I was like the jock
that like played sports and like worked out, but like
would also for Halloween coming as fucking Goku and like
wear like anime shirts.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
So and then when I would do it, like it
would be so funny because you get like these mixed
reactions from like a bunch of group of groups of people. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
Yeah, it's a weird thing, right, especially in that time period,
because I mean I also get.
Speaker 4 (17:57):
Did you get bullied as Goku?
Speaker 3 (17:59):
Bro?
Speaker 1 (17:59):
Who's gonna bully?
Speaker 2 (18:00):
Means you got to own it exactly exactly, So I
don't know, it was relatable in some weird ways like that.
And then like like you said, the build up the
episode three where it's like, uh yeah, the dad was
kind of judging it based on the news the brother
stood up for. He's like, you know, because parents are
gonna group it all into that same thing. That's what
(18:20):
my parents did, right. They're like, I don't understand that
anime stuff. It's just you know, it is its thing.
And he's like, you don't understand it, don't don't judge it,
just based on what they say, and he's like, all right,
that's fair. He made some good points, but you know
this is still like a topic where I'm gonna have
to take this away, right, this is still eighteen plus.
And then even the brothers like crap, he's completely right
on this one, right, like it like there's nothing. So
(18:43):
it has that like weird grounded approach where a lot
of the topics they cover are weirdly grounded. The production
value is good.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
Est ended up take. So he agreed with the Daddy's like, yeah,
the eighteen plus games are kind of messed up, especially
like the brother sister dad makes it even weirder right
of the games.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
And he's in the room, he's like this is He's like,
you don't see how this is weird And she's like,
all right, we'll mix reality and games. You freaking weirdo,
Like what you like, what are you doing?
Speaker 3 (19:12):
Right?
Speaker 2 (19:13):
Like uh?
Speaker 1 (19:14):
But you end up taking the Blame's like that's actually
mine and he's like the older brother who it's like, yeah, right,
buddy's a little older. Of course he's gonna have some
mic porn or whatever. But the brothers sister thing is
weird as hell. And then the dad like punched him
in the face, like like you can keep it, you asshole.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
So the weird thing about this show is I feel
like a lot more people liked it universally until it
got towards the end of season two and whatnot right,
and then like it gets a little bit weird in
some of the topics and stuff. People haven't tend to
drop the ratings around that time, but like season one especially,
and then like the obs for season one, I'm like,
that's just a solid show. Like it it felt like
a clickbaity show right, like where it says it's gonna
(19:53):
be one thing and then it's it's really not. It's
covering all these other aspects of the culture. So I
don't know, I feel like those first episodes held up
nostalgia wise.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
It's crazy how much the world has changed as well.
Anime has become so extreme. It's on Netflix. I worked
at a school a little bit doing like like some
supply teaching and stuff, and anime is just so much
more popular and accepted. I feel like some people that
might be listening to this podcast that are younger probably
don't even understand what me and Jordan are saying.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
Like when that's why I had the level stet right, Like, yeah,
in that time period.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
At that time, like when I was in elementary school,
I was scared to talk about anime and manga, and
I was really into it because it was the weird thing.
It was the kid, the thing that the weird kid
was into. And then like it was kind of like
within the show they even talk about how it's like
really not socially like acceptable that you're one of those
(20:48):
webs or takos or whatever even within Japan. So imagine
outside of Japan. Imagine outside of Japan being the one
that's in the or emo, Like that's that's crazy.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
I didn't have to imagine, right, But.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
But funny enough, I feel like as I got older
in high school, it was still kind of thing. But
when I got older, I got more confidence. I just
didn't give a fuck, right, But when I was so worried,
I was so worried in elementary.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
School, honestly, like I was like a little bit worried
about it, but also just I just almost didn't even
really want to deal with it. Like after I like
switch schools, I'm like like a lot of other things, right,
It's not like anime is my personality. Even when I
made a YouTube channel, like I was on the fence,
I'm like, do I want to do basketball? Do I
want to do anime? Things like that? Right, So it's
(21:31):
it's not like it's my whole personality, but it is
something I enjoy and it's like that could be a
part of you, right, and uh, there's nothing wrong with that.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
I do kind of feel like even though anime has
become much more mainstream, the community online isn't as like
it feels like it's smaller, and I don't know if
that's reality, but like nowaday like I feel back in
the day I said, like people that weren't part of
the like the anime community, I feel like they either
thought anime was like Pokemon or porn like or like
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hen time. Yeah, like no in between. I think now
everyone know or most people know what anime is. But
despite that, I feel like the community online has died out.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
Yeah. It's weird too in that way because it's like
it's almost like maybe more segmented, because like people do
you kind of go off into their own space a
little bit. And then also, yeah, it's weird. I feel
like a lot of people like myself included. Right, if
you don't have anybody in real life that you can
talk to about anime, that's almost when you go to
(22:31):
that online sphere to talk about it a little bit
more and make friends that have that same interest. And
if you have no problem talking about it to all
your friends in person, right, then it's almost like it's
not gonna have You're not gonna have that same type
of demand for that, right, So it's a it's weird, I.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
Feel like because it was taboo to talk about when
you go online, you would build these niches and these
like groups and stuff. And also it was such a
new thing that I I didn't know a lot about.
So it's like, yeah, I watched Dragon Ball Z and
Pokemon Yu gi oh, and then like some Naruto I
didn't know that it was anime, and then some like
Bleach or whatever on TV, and like I'm using these
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YouTube channels and these forums and these chat rooms to
get recommendations because I don't even know where this stuff is.
Now you can go on Netflix and be like, yeah,
all these anime are fucking bangers.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
I just wanted to act.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
You're not wrong, And there are weird parts to anime.
It's one of my favorite things about those first three
episodes of or Email is like how the brother he's
not really into this stuff, right, so like he has
no idea. So like when they're taking him, when she's
hanging out or he's hanging out with her and her
new friends she made online, they're going through agy Habra
and like they're looking at the stuff that is kind
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of associated with some of it, Like they're looking at
dosis and he's like, what the hell and they're like
the doss for Coroneco's thing. It's like bl stuff. He's like,
what the hell? And then like there's like a outfit
from the anime that she likes and it's like Men's
double XL what like, like like what is going on here?
Like he even he was like a little bit flabbergasted
by it, right, So it's like, uh, I don't know.
(24:04):
It's very self aware and kind of what it's doing, right,
It's like poking fun at it while also will also
kind of broaching the topic and it's doing it in
like a very high production value way for the time.
Like one other thing about this show what I do
I do want to mention is the number of really
good vash and other things that are in this show
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is not really talked about, Like this was kind of
towards the start of a lot of their careers. But like,
I'm not really a big VA guy, but like kanahn Azawa,
let's see, what's another one. I already Hiami, Like they
were both really big characters in this show. And then
U the guy that does the main character is the
same guy that does Gojo from jj K and he
does he did Room and Rider from One punch Man.
(24:49):
Like they had all these big roles, but before that
they were an or emo, right, so crazy. So I
feel like the production value is really well made and
stuff like that. I don't know how much you guys
focus on h on stuff like that, right, but it's.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
I feel like I don't unless it's bad. Yeah, I
feel like the whole thing is I feel like it
most like appreciate it without overly thinking about it. It's like, yeah,
I enjoyed those things whatever, But when they stand out
enough to dislike or make the show worse is when
they're failing at their job. You know.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
Yeah, I feel like most of the fact that this
show gets will be from later and it's the taboo,
the subject matter, and then it's like it's it's the
fact that people liked the show. And then towards the
end of the season two, like I said, they realize like,
oh crap, it's not as quickbaity as we thought. And
then that's whenever, like the like the scores went down
a lot, and I'm like, that's fair.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
But you know, so it's about who he ends up with,
which is crazy. Anyway, I want to say, the shit
talking between crow Necho and the sister of the crow
Necho is my favorite character. So good.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
Oh yeah, girl, fast girl.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
Anyway, recon any final thoughts on this even quiet, any
thoughts on this anime before we move on.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
I'm just don't worry. I'm just listening to nearly thirty
year old men talking about Little Sister anime and and
that's pretty fun. I'm not gonna lie fair. But anyways,
aside from that, to end things off, to all your
viewers who are watching, if you pretty much like Little
Sister animes, and you know the etchy games and the
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brother and sister relationship and the sister teaching her brother
about all these erotic games and he's keeping up her
secrets so she looks perfect in school and all that
and otaku culture. Then check out ori Emo and also
don't forget to check out Edomanga sense because it kind
of ties in with Odaimo. And then at the end
of Edlmannga Sensey, you can also see the characters from
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Odiimo and they all meet up together and like, it's
pretty nice and all that. But yeah, other than that,
it's a pretty shit show.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
Yeah, I still enjoy it. I thought the at least
season one, I figured those first three episodes they held
up after twelve years. So but man, you know, you
know why I picked this show, right? I put a
Twitter like shows and this one won it. They were
all little sister shows just for the lulls, but uh
(27:13):
I did it because I was like, they didn't like
bang Dream, I need to make them suffer for a
bit before we move on to other stuff. And then
this one won, so uh so I got to revisit
the Nostalgia had the Blue rays back here.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
So yeah, speaking of suffering, right, speaking of suffering, recon
how did you like Kenyan Ashra?
Speaker 3 (27:30):
This was one of the worst shit I've ever seen. Painful, painful,
It was so difficult to watch. It is so ugly.
It was probably on the ugliness level of the Berserk
twenty sixteen and twenty seventeen version. I hate it so much.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
I don't know if I know that far.
Speaker 4 (27:49):
I just don't.
Speaker 3 (27:49):
I don't. There's something about it. It's just I don't
like full CGI anime. The fight scenes and all that, like,
it just ruins it. They weren't good. The characters are boring. Yeah, yeah,
this anime is all about fighting and becoming the best
and all that. But it's like, nah, it ain't for me, man,
I can't.
Speaker 4 (28:08):
Do it, Okay.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
I actually yeah, if you and before you continue on,
I did skim through every single episode to watch every
single episode.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
You mean, like, yeah, the three episodes you were supposed
to watch, or like the entire show.
Speaker 3 (28:30):
The three episodes that I was supposed to recond.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
You have to do your homework. You have to do
your homework recon This is ridiculous.
Speaker 3 (28:38):
The whole I did.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
I didn't recommend animate to each other that we think
the like. For example, the concept of our EMO is
something I would never like, right, But then it's the
prizes that's with the quality and some of the things.
And then we have a conversation about it. Bro, you're
watching the three episodes for next week, and now we
have to watch six. Recon you have to watch six
for next week. You have to do your homework.
Speaker 3 (29:01):
Look, I did put it on like two times or fourth.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
That's fine, things up.
Speaker 4 (29:09):
I just didn't like it.
Speaker 3 (29:10):
I didn't like it at all.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
There's the difference between giving and I think even one
point five is a little a little fast, But I'll
do it at one point five to I forgot to rate,
But one point three I actually love anime at that speed.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
Yeah, I know we did the same thing for for
Bang Dream, right, so maybe we need to give a
little bit of a break from c GI anime. But
if you.
Speaker 3 (29:33):
Guys amend me shitty anime that I'm not gonna enjoy,
this is what's gonna happen.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
But you also forgot to rate.
Speaker 3 (29:40):
Well.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
The thing is, I know there's a lot of overlap
in our taste, right, but for entertainments sake, I've tried
to make an effort to like recommend stuff that I
know you guys would never watch otherwise but still has
like some aspect of it that we can enjoy, right,
or like that has some redeemable aspects to it, so uh.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
So why do they deemable aspects? Ken and Astra looks ugly.
I will absolutely admiss when you watch read it. When
you watch the first episode and you see Yamashita's face,
you're like, what the fuck is this series? This bobblehead
looking character with three d cgi. He's looking like an
Ogre from Devil May Cry. But I will say it
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is one of those shows that it's better and better
that it's got badass fights and the choreography of the
fight is not only good but obviously maybe there's some
unrealistic things in the first episodes, but once you get
to the tournament, some of the grappling and the moves
are so like you could tell the author really cared
about martial arts.
Speaker 3 (30:39):
And Haaki better, Baki better.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
I think I might like hanganash for better than Baki.
Speaker 3 (30:46):
You did not just no way, there's no way you
like the better than Baki.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
I have not seen the Netflix version of Baki, but like,
based on the original version, like this reminded me a
lot of that. So I see the comparison, and I
think they have like a some type of collaboration at
some point right where it's like Baki versus Kim Gan
ashera evering.
Speaker 3 (31:05):
That was actually pretty good? What what do you mean
that was shit?
Speaker 1 (31:10):
That was okay because it was in two D. Look
because it was in two D and the fighting was better.
You made me watch a shitty, cgi fully.
Speaker 3 (31:19):
Animated show where the characters are all ugly and the
fight scenes are terrible.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
I don't get how we can disagree on everything. This
is crazy sucks, Blockie is better.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
Literally, just the fact is three D breaks. I don't
think you understand.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
I know, I know.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
But uh, I will say I actually enjoyed King and
ashra I. I didn't love the first three episodes, but
I will say I got to that point at episode
three where I actually will probably keep watching this one
too at some point if I can find the chance.
Not as high on the priority as Double May Cry,
but like it ended at episode three, at a point
where it felt like it was about to start, like
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it was about to actually start, if that makes sense,
because of the like it set up a turn, and
then like that ended the three episodes where I was
watching it, I'm like, dang, I want to keep going.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
I will say I don't think the first three episodes
are overly amazing. I think they're okay. It does get better,
but having watched the entire series, I love the first
three episodes like I appreciate it more knowing things that
I know now, which isn't always the best, but it's
sometimes good when you're able to look back, even without rewatching,
and be like, oh, I see why they did that.
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I that this is that's interesting, that's cool. I know
why this character was chosen for this, et cetera, et cetera.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
M and I love martial arts type anime. I will admit, Uh,
it's a big bias of mine. So one of those
first big fights that we had, I think episode two
whenever they you know, they have the actual tournament fight
with the uh I forget his name, but the dude
with the grip, strength and Whatnotuh did that fight started?
(32:52):
The first sequen's happened and there's no commentary. I paused it.
I broke down what happened, and then I unposited it,
and then they broke down what happened. So I don't
like them explaining it like I like, I like how
on point it was, but they basically said the same
thing that I did about you know, uh, him kind
of leaning into the punch to like where he doesn't
fully extend where it's like kind of cuts an hour
and a half on the counter, right, things things like
(33:13):
that where I'm like, there's attention to detail there.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
And you do that's just the beginning of the attend
the detail. That's like, oh yeah, I will say they
do that the entire series everything.
Speaker 2 (33:26):
Which I don't mind is but like that's that's an
anime thing, right, That's just me being nitpicky, but uh
but yeah, like that and the Fighting episode three, they
definitely go to extremes where I'm like, the Fighting episode three, man,
I was like, no, he's dead, Like what do you
mean this fight's gonna keep going now? He's dead? Like
they broke his back spinal like verbal German suplex. Okay,
(33:47):
Like yeah, it's one of those things where it takes
like an entertaining thing like fighting, and the reason I
enjoyed Baki and stuff like that is like it takes
it to the extreme right. It's like, what but what
if they weren't so fragile like most of them are.
What if they just kept going and just kept doing
all these cool things and I don't know. It's a
fun series.
Speaker 1 (34:04):
I enjoyed it, so yeah, it's it's super graphic at times,
and they make things look like really the injuries look
really really bad, but like they're also just able to
keep on fighting. It's crazy. In regards to explaining everything.
Later on in the series, a character that loses in
the tournament, that like lost in a way that they
didn't fucking get destroyed, becomes an announcer for the tournament
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so that he could explain things more technically was going.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
That, And like, I wonder what the nine tailed fox
aspect is going on in the episode three, like the
foreshadows a lie, right, Like I feel like if the
first three episodes barely touch on the surface of like
what it's hinting at. So I don't know. I wanted
to watch more of this one too. Freaking Internet bro,
it makes me sad.
Speaker 3 (34:47):
I don't watch Berserk twenty sixteen, twenty seventeen. If you actually,
if you guys, don't do that, go and watch the
fucking new Berserk show.
Speaker 2 (34:56):
If I could do it, I don't. I have I have.
Berserk's my favorite mongo. Okay, that's cool, that's cool.
Speaker 4 (35:03):
Fighting choreography.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
No, he's got to get us back. He's trying to
get us back. You know what, Recon. You know what,
after we finished the nineteen ninety seven Berserk, I will
watch the twenty sixteen Berserk and see how it transitions.
I will, Oh god, I will do it.
Speaker 2 (35:18):
No fair enough, I might do the same.
Speaker 3 (35:20):
Then.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
I've always avoided watching that one. I've never actually watched
the twenty sixteen version. I heard the pot sound in
episode one, or like the sounded like the oh, that
is perfect sound design, and I just I just stopped
right then and there. I'm like, I'm good.
Speaker 1 (35:32):
Okay. I want to say Recon. I may have failed
with Kenanashra, I may have failed with a lot of
other anime. You do need to actually watch them, I
will say, you do need to actually watch them. You
can't skim no skimming.
Speaker 4 (35:43):
No I did, I did.
Speaker 3 (35:43):
I just watched it in like really fast speed.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
That's fine, that's a better experience, But skimming, I'm gonna say,
you have to watch it. You can't just fucking like
I'm gonna skip up so two watch half of the
episode one, you know, but I will say Recon least
I succeeded with the Berserk or I thought I did.
You didn't do your homework for that either, but I
will do it for next week. You like at least
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you said you like nineteen ninety seven Berserk, which is
an old anime that doesn't look that good.
Speaker 4 (36:13):
I'll do it for next week.
Speaker 1 (36:14):
Okay, So episode four through six of Berserk for next week.
For sure. We do need to still rate or Emo
and hanging on.
Speaker 2 (36:21):
Oh yeah, or Emo, So.
Speaker 1 (36:25):
I'm going to give you like a six point four.
Speaker 3 (36:28):
I'm gonna give or Emo a five.
Speaker 2 (36:31):
Okay. I actually raised my rating of Rimo after rewatching
those first three episodes. I still have season two and
the Oba is rated really low.
Speaker 3 (36:39):
But like, do you have a manga collection of Emo? Jordan?
Speaker 2 (36:43):
I don't. One. It was a white novel and I've
never read it, but I have the Blue Rays right here,
so I try to, like, oh, get a lot of
the anime IFC and on Blu Ray if I can.
So this one's out of print.
Speaker 3 (36:56):
If you want, Jordan, I can recommend you a whole
bunch more of Little Sister anime if that's what you're into.
Speaker 2 (37:01):
I've probably already seen them all, you know, you know.
But uh, but see, you gotta be very you gotta
be uh. I don't know. There's certain qualities to it
that are very important. Ricon okay as a conosur of
anime in general, Like they're and a girlfriend, uh mangaka right,
Like he has a new series that's airing this season, right,
(37:22):
and people try to recommend that one to me, and
I'm like, no, what do you mean, Like that one's
awful one. They're all adopted. Okay, it's only good when
they're blood related Ricon.
Speaker 4 (37:32):
Right, Okay, it's okay, that's crazy.
Speaker 2 (37:36):
I'm kidding. I'm kidding, but that's that's a quote from
the Aliya Hyder Feelings in Russian anime that was recent
that the line cracked me up, where they're going off
about that. But but yeah, I don't know what were
we talking about again? I started rambling here, just oh yeah,
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I think I had like a six point five or seven.
Speaker 1 (38:00):
Okay, what about guys.
Speaker 3 (38:02):
I'll give that a one or a two garbage.
Speaker 2 (38:07):
No, I'm gonna give it a five point five for
those first three episodes. But I see the potential. I
see the vision. Okay, I think for the.
Speaker 1 (38:16):
First three i'd probably give it like a five, like
a six, maybe like like five point five. Like it's
nothing crazy, but I do. I am a big, big
fan of Kang and Astra guys. I would recommend it
to people watching.
Speaker 2 (38:27):
It's one of those where like you could tell it's
setting up stuff, right, I'm excited. I'm actually excited for
the tournament. Tournament arcs and anime are underrated, Okay, Tournament
arcs are some of the most hype arcs, especially with
like martial arts and stuff.
Speaker 1 (38:38):
I think like the next like two seasons, like the
next thirty plus episodes is literally just a tournament, like
the same tournament. Like they did a couple King and
Austra matches, but did a tournament coming up? And I
think really the the rest of the season one and
all the season two is just the tournament.
Speaker 2 (38:58):
Okay, that and that makes sense to me.
Speaker 1 (39:00):
That's so.
Speaker 2 (39:01):
Did you ever watch the original Baki prior to the
Netflix one?
Speaker 1 (39:04):
Like I did? I know?
Speaker 2 (39:05):
I think the Netflix one like continues it right or something.
Speaker 1 (39:07):
Yes, it's after he like was one of the one
of the tournaments.
Speaker 2 (39:11):
Yeah, so season one was pretty good for the original Baki.
I haven't seen it forever, but like season two, like
the whole I didn't finish season two. I think I
almost finished it, but like the entirety of what I remember,
it's like all the tournament, Like the entire thing is
just a tournament. I'm like, oh my god, this thing
just keeps going. It was fun, It was good, but yeah, tournament.
Speaker 1 (39:29):
I really enjoyed the original Blokie as well. I think
the Netflix Blockie is really really over the top and
still very fun and good. It just not I didn't
like it as much cause I always appreciate like more
of like an underdog coming up and growing up, which
like original Blockie, he was a beast, but like he
went through a lot a lot of different training and stuff.
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Netflix Blockie is like he's already the champion, and he's
already all these strong characters that we've met, and then
they just interviewed a bunch of more strong characters and
to like fight.
Speaker 2 (40:00):
The original Baki, like they introduced me. They're like he's
a monster for his age, Like you look at all
these workouts he's doing and stuff. But then like there's
so many monsters in that show with like his you know,
his dad being like the main one Usualrrohanma.
Speaker 1 (40:13):
BUTA is the biggest. It's crazy.
Speaker 2 (40:17):
It scares me.
Speaker 1 (40:19):
But he stopped at earthquake with his face. The US military, Yeah, boots,
we're going to war. We'll just drop you your ahnma
in the forest. Do you have a new or missiles?
We'll just drop you your ahnma into the battlefield.
Speaker 2 (40:37):
Oh my god, I've forgotten star that that's actually a
good recommendation. I might have to change what I what
I recommend here.
Speaker 1 (40:45):
Do you guys know what you want to recommend for
next week? Recon? Do you have any ideas?
Speaker 3 (40:51):
Have you guys seen with story as Wand and Sword?
Speaker 1 (40:56):
I have not.
Speaker 2 (40:56):
I have not.
Speaker 4 (40:58):
Great.
Speaker 3 (40:59):
That is anime that I want you that the ma
is like similar to Mashall. Yeah, it's very similar to Maschall.
It's called Wistoria's wand Sword w Jordan.
Speaker 1 (41:09):
Do you have an idea?
Speaker 2 (41:12):
I'm torn. Do you guys want something good or something
maybe just like a little bit more.
Speaker 3 (41:17):
That's up to you. Either you make us want something
good or you make us suffer.
Speaker 1 (41:21):
It's up to you. Fun.
Speaker 2 (41:22):
Fun, Okay, No, I'm not gonna do c g I
this okay, fun all right, I'm gonna do with the
recommendation I just saw in the chat then, because I
did enjoy this series more than I think most people.
But it's an a guy okay, and it's called Katsu
seen it.
Speaker 3 (41:43):
Working with a god, working with a god in a
godless world. I've seen that.
Speaker 2 (41:47):
I figured that one might be funny just because there's
c g I in it, and the CGI has done
bad on purpose, So like, yeah, but okay, I'm gonna
go back to my original thing. Then Okay, I'm gonna
recommend something good. So to make sure that you guys
appreciate the uh production value that goes into different anime
and stuff, I'm wanna. I wanna recommend an anime about
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making anime. So I know we felt a little bit
short with h with the the anime about making manga
because Recon doesn't read manga, he doesn't like manga, et cetera.
So what about an anime about making anime? Chier Obaco, oh
she Blaka Cheero.
Speaker 1 (42:27):
I've heard good things about that.
Speaker 2 (42:29):
It's really highly acclaimed. I enjoy it a lot. It
is stressful because it literally does feel like they're just working.
So I gotta get home from work and I was
already stressed at work and then I'm watching them work
the works. Yeah, it's an anime originals, so like PA
Works does a lot of anime original stuff. It was
very high quality. Twenty fourteen is when.
Speaker 3 (42:48):
I started in twenty fifteen, so yeah, I could definitely
check that out.
Speaker 2 (42:53):
Cheerabaka is a good one. I'm I'm I'm gonna go
with that. Then.
Speaker 3 (42:58):
Oh, I've seen this.
Speaker 5 (42:59):
I've seen in a clip on this on YouTube with
the girl dancing and she's she's she's saying like she's
she's saying it in like different numbers and in different languages.
Speaker 4 (43:10):
I've seen the clip when we're dancing.
Speaker 2 (43:12):
Yeah, it's not in three episodes, but I like that's
three episodes and that clip it is adorable.
Speaker 1 (43:20):
How do we decide that's really choice? That's right, we're
gonna do chat choice.
Speaker 3 (43:25):
Oh I don't know.
Speaker 1 (43:26):
I don't know how to decide chat's choice.
Speaker 2 (43:28):
Are we doing chat's choice? Are we making ric watchcause.
Speaker 1 (43:32):
We don't get over ricon? You're watching four through six
in that's right, Okay.
Speaker 2 (43:38):
I don't want to.
Speaker 3 (43:40):
I mean, if you want to make another recommendation, sure,
I'll make sure to watch out.
Speaker 1 (43:45):
We can't overdo it. But let's just definitely watch Berserk please, Okay, okay, okay, okay,
I wanna. I'm trying to think of what I want
to recommend the problems I feel bad. He want like
giving riecon anime he's not interested in at all.
Speaker 2 (43:59):
M hmm.
Speaker 1 (44:00):
But I did doubinely Cry this week, which was not bad.
But I also did Kenyon Ashra. I got two picks
last week for some reason.
Speaker 3 (44:05):
I know, even though I've already seen the crime.
Speaker 1 (44:10):
Oh yeah, you had already, but it was it's new.
It came out like a week ago or like two
weeks ago.
Speaker 3 (44:14):
Yeah, yeah, I've watched it when it was released. I
watched it.
Speaker 2 (44:17):
When we watch this stuff, hmmm.
Speaker 1 (44:22):
Keng was chat apparently Kan was chat to Ashita no Joe.
Speaker 3 (44:31):
What Ashita is that?
Speaker 1 (44:34):
What it's called that?
Speaker 2 (44:35):
Ashia no Joe? Is that what you're recommending?
Speaker 3 (44:37):
Though?
Speaker 1 (44:38):
As she Ashina, I don't know, Joe. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (44:42):
It's one of the original the very old sports anime,
Boxing one.
Speaker 1 (44:45):
It came out the mom came out in No. The
anime came out in nineteen seventy.
Speaker 3 (44:55):
No, please, I don't want to watch it.
Speaker 2 (44:58):
Even I struggled to try to watch the first step.
So this looks like garbage.
Speaker 4 (45:03):
Man, I can't watch this. Something else.
Speaker 1 (45:06):
I'm gonna test you on episode two, three thirteen minutes
in Ricon is gonna hate it? I feel bad. I
feel bad.
Speaker 4 (45:15):
Are you sure your decision is at To No Joe?
Speaker 3 (45:18):
Like?
Speaker 1 (45:18):
I trying to think of trying to think of an
alternative right now, but I can't think of who the.
Speaker 3 (45:23):
Who the hell wants us to?
Speaker 4 (45:24):
Who the hell wants us to watch and talk about
this show?
Speaker 1 (45:27):
I kind of I kind of just want to watch.
I've never watched it before.
Speaker 4 (45:30):
Seventy nine episodes. Also, oh my god.
Speaker 1 (45:34):
They reference it in so many anime They always reference.
Speaker 2 (45:36):
To Shoot the No Joe in Bacubon. That's the main characters,
you know, that's an anime about making manga or manga
about making manga. That's the main character's favorite series that
he always like looks back on or like draws inspiration
from his oh ash to No Joe just a classic.
Speaker 1 (45:52):
Hmm, anything else? I know we're gonna do a Shoot the.
Speaker 3 (45:56):
No Joe.
Speaker 2 (46:00):
As.
Speaker 1 (46:03):
We got a lot of variety this week, guys, we
had a lot of variety. I recommend Astro.
Speaker 2 (46:07):
Boy, we're working our way to it. Yeah, Cherrabacco and
what was Ricon's again.
Speaker 4 (46:17):
On Wistoria's wand and sword?
Speaker 2 (46:20):
That actually, that's one I I have not heard much about,
so I just know it's a little bit newer.
Speaker 3 (46:25):
Right came out last year.
Speaker 1 (46:27):
So it's a picture. Is that he's watching next week
astro boy?
Speaker 2 (46:32):
Oh god, I guess before before we wrap it up?
Which you hate more? Like really old anime that's two
D or c G I like? I hate both too much.
You gotta have I hate.
Speaker 3 (46:46):
I hate enemy that is like fully c G I
and ugly looking, and I hate old looking, bad quality anime.
Speaker 4 (46:53):
That's what I can't watch is you.
Speaker 1 (46:55):
Can't choose both which one you hate? You can only
hate more.
Speaker 2 (46:59):
I'm trying to be reference is a little bit, but if.
Speaker 3 (47:01):
I really wanted to hate something more, it would be
fully CGI anime.
Speaker 1 (47:07):
Okay, this is a picture of what I said recon
that he's gonna watch next week as a boy.
Speaker 2 (47:17):
If we're learning about history, may.
Speaker 1 (47:18):
Try and find an anime with no words. That's it.
It's like we're gonna watching black and white Japanese film.
Speaker 2 (47:28):
Oh god, the ogs.
Speaker 3 (47:32):
You guys, if you guys make me suffer this much,
I will recommend something that you guys won't like.
Speaker 1 (47:38):
You should have done it that time. Anyway, I hope
everyone enjoyed. Remember to check out the anime dude and
recon anime Recon on YouTube and Twitch and other platforms Twitter.
It's been a pretty good episode, guys, and I'll see
you all next week.
Speaker 2 (47:56):
Okay, that was good, chin.
Speaker 3 (48:00):
Heh.
Speaker 1 (48:00):
Yeah,
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