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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Yo, what is up? Boys? How's it going? And welcome
back to another episode of the Rant Cafe Anime podcast.
This week, we're gonna have a heavy focus on Takopy's
Original Sin, but we're also gonna be talking about Subasa
Reservoir Chronicle and Bunny Girls SAMPI season three. But we're
gonna start off with Tokopy. That was Jordan's recommendation. What up, Jordan,
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the anime dude?
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Up?
Speaker 3 (00:22):
What up?
Speaker 4 (00:22):
What up? Everybody? Happy to be here. I hope everybody's
doing well.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Hell yeah, and we got anime ricon who didn't do
his homework. Hey watched the movies Original Sin though?
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Oh wait, hello everyone, and welcome back to the Rank Cafe.
It's been a while since I've been here, but yeah,
life's been busy. But uh, we're all back together. The
gang is back and we're ready to talk about more anime. Baby,
let's go.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
Hell yeah, Okay, now let Jordan's lovely faces on screen.
Everyone can leave, all right, Okay, Tacopy's Original Sin. I'm
gonna be honest. That shit depressed me so it ruined
my day. It actually ruined my days of an anime.
As it was episode one. Everyone people literally came into
my chat while I was playing Apex afterwards, They're like,
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why are you so sad? I'm like, I watched I
watched The Kope's Ritual SID episode one. It ruined me.
It ruined my mood.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
Dude, I'm not gonna lie. I felt bad recommending that
one because it was also one where after that first episode, like,
I watched it when I was doing seasonals and that
was like I just had to call it for the day.
I'm like, all right, that was my last seasonal for
the day. I'm done. After that. I just gotta I
gotta go take a nap. I gotta go to sleep
real quick.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
I just want to go to bed. The show made
me want to go to bed.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Honestly, Jordan, if you wouldn't have recommended this anime because
I don't really watch O n a's because this was
listened as an O NA and I merely just watched,
you know, the regular anime at the very top, if
you've never recommended this to me, I wouldn't have known
about this, but now I do, and it is just
masterpiece but still different.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
That's crazy to me because you're the seasonal guy. You're
the seasonal guy and this is like the highest rated
seasonal going on at the or.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
I guess it's like at the cookies on any chart
is like at the fucking very bottom of the o nas.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
Yeah, So unless they're like active in the community, I
think it just sucks. This one could go right by you,
even as a big anime thing, if you were kind
of keep to yourself. I feel like, if if you
keep to yourself, you might not know about this, if
you just like, you know, go online, see what like,
see what's coming out the season, see what's popular, because
it's it is kind of hidden. A lot of people
miss owning.
Speaker 4 (02:27):
I guess algorithms are crazy to me because I felt
like I was dodging spoilers left and right. Like anytime
I saw this show on like a you know, on
social face, I would just like look away because it
was It's.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Kind of like, it's kind of like the same thing
as To Be hero X because it is also a
Chinese anime. It's not on the mainstream of the others.
But I discovered to Be hero X from watching a trailer.
I was like, holy shit, the succestence insane. So I
just followed it, watched it every episode and it's just
amazing so far.
Speaker 4 (02:54):
Like the website I used to keep track of my
anime is is any List, And like right now on there,
it's like the number one high strated of all time
at the moment, like it it took over that quickly,
and I think a lot of that's probably recency bias,
but it's like already the number thirty, like most popular
all time. It is up there.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
Yeah, but I honestly I just off the first three episodes.
I only watched the first three out of six chat
and maybe we could talk about the second three next
week as well, along with some other anime. I will say,
just have the first three. It's been. It's it's amazing,
and it's really messed up because we have our main character, Hizuka,
she's like nine years old and she's she's got it
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rough right. Not only is she being bullied, but her
at home life with her family is non existent, right, tragic,
and out of nowhere, this alien to Kopi comes down
and she comes from or this alien pink thing comes
from like planet Happy, I think is what it's called. Happen.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, plant happy.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
Plant happy, Planet Happy and tries to make people happy
with with her with its gag with it with its
happy gadget, happy gadgets. Yeah, at first I thought she's
the cup was just like imagining it, Like she was
just tripping and like so depressed. You made up her
own imaginary friend, which could still be the case. But
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other people are also seeing to copy, so I'm like,
I guess maybe it's not the case. But the most
fucked up and tragic thing in episode one what really
got me was a copy. This alien thing gives a
happy gadget ribbon or something, and it's supposed to make
you like resolve your conflict with your friend, like after
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fighting or something. And our main character, after some events
that happened to get into uses this, uses this happy
gadget to kill herself, to hang herself, and seeing to
copy's reaction and just not seeing it come in. I
didn't see it coming because it's it's the main character
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in episode one.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
Coopy doesn't understand, doesn't gets he doesn't get it. He's
like what He's like, Huh, what just happened.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
To copy a boy or girl?
Speaker 3 (05:13):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (05:14):
Could be they don't, they don't, They don't really specify.
It's neither.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
Yeah, it's an alien. It's an alien with.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
It's like a Pokemon. Just imagine him being a Pokemon.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
Pokemon have sex.
Speaker 4 (05:30):
It brings inspired from from Doramon if you're familiar with
that at all, the little gadget things. Oh yeah, so
it's like Doram meets like zero for like, the first
half of this series is a story that uh.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
Dom on that blue cat with the like helicopter on
his head.
Speaker 4 (05:53):
Yeah, exactly that one.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
Do you guys have never seen it? Do you guys
have any comments on episode one that we want to
talk about?
Speaker 4 (06:02):
I will say this one. This is the type of
show that's not for everybody. There's that disclaimer at the
very very beginning, and it's there for a reason. And uh,
did you guys watch the opening to this one.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Open? I brief I briefly. I don't quite remember the opening.
I just skipped through it.
Speaker 4 (06:19):
Okay, it's just such a happy opening, all right, that's the.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
I I listened to openings. But for episode one and
episode two, I try not to look at the visuals
because I just all they usually have spoilers and it
drives me crazy.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
This is why I wanted my camera on so people
could see the disappointment in my face. All right, this
is but it's such a happy opening. It's so upbeat,
and like we see that string of fate between Cheesuka
and Uh and Mary and I like in the opening
as like it looks like they're getting along, right, like
he's bringing them together, and uh, you know, once that
thing actually comes out in the show, the juxtaposition between
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how happy somethings in the show are versus how pressing
other things are really brings out like the extremes of both. Right,
Like it hits when it's depressing and it's it could
be funny at the same time, it's weird and jarring
and uh, I don't know, it's it's a trip. It's
very hard to describe.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
One thing. Go ahead, freakun.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
Marina is pretty much the bully the main She'suka is
the victim of Mano's bullying. I really don't know why
the fun she even bullies are like, why would you
bully such an innocent girl like that?
Speaker 1 (07:31):
Dude?
Speaker 4 (07:31):
I mean.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
Maria is also a tragic character as well, and unfortunately
she takes out her anger and her issues at home
and what's going on against h'su Cup. But that's what
I mean, very real.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
There's no point, there's absolutely no point of letting out
your anger on somebody else. That's what I kind of mean. Yeah,
I mean, have your own problems, but you really shouldn't
just take it out on some other innocent girl who's
who's outside of your issues. And it's like it's kind of.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
Crazy's nothing to do with her dad getting with or
her no, her mom getting with Marina's dad or whatever,
like she's not to do this a child, But you know,
it's a really real thing. When kids are having trouble
at home, sometimes they're the ones who become bullied, the
one the people who are like Marina is technically getting
bullied by her mother. And when you get bullied, you
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end up bullying others. I think this this is something
very real about the show with an alien that has
happy gadgets.
Speaker 4 (08:29):
It's that's one of the most disturbing things about the
show is how like, despite how outlandish it can be,
like how seeped in like realism. It is, like it's
very grounded in some of the uh in some of
the heavy topics that they delve into. And yeah, I
think that's one of the things you see a lot
is kids that like their home life is a majority
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of their life, right Like, that's pretty much everything they have,
and when things aren't going well at home, when the
adults in their life are letting them down, you know,
they just they try to take that rage out or
like get those emotions out in whatever way they can.
And sometimes, you know, I'm not justifying what what Marynada does,
but but it's understandable in the same sense, right Like,
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it it's something we see all the time.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
Yeah, it feels real. They gave a reason for her bullying.
There's a lot of times an anime or in shows
in general, it's just like it's random guy at schools,
just the fucking bully. It's like a lot of the
times there's a lot of deeper things behind it. And
at least they show that here with with Madina and
what she was going on with at home. I will
say another thing that feels very real is sometimes no
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matter how fucked up your life is, if you have
like one like pillar like Chappie the Dog, even though
she's aka had so many things that were against her
and not going her away, as long as she had
her dog like her one pillar of happiness. I feel
like she could get through everything and that was her
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final straw in episode one and in other episodes as well.
The second she loses Chappie is when everything crumbles because
she's got nothing left in a way, and.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
Then Takope came into our life.
Speaker 4 (10:16):
That was one of the hardest things, is like, you know,
watching what happened to the dog, it's always like even
more sad when things happens.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
Yeah, it's for me. The strongest thing about Toakopy is
that it just it it's the most realistic anime that
I've seen in a very long time, just because it's depressing,
but it just shows people's true nature because there's a
lot of let's say, malevolence and determination in this anime
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and showing people's true nature. Like the world is not
a very good place. There's just so much shit going
on and it's bad. Uh, but seeing you know, Tokope
doesn't even understand what that is going on. He's just there.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
That was one thing that's cool to see ricon is
where like, so what ended up happening At the end
of episode one, after our main character dies, Tocopy one
of her gadgets was like she took a picture in
time and she was able to go back, or Toakopy
was able to go back to that moment in time
with Shizukap back when she was alive, and we get
to see Tocopy trying to figure out and understand why
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she ended up killing herself or like things that were
going bad for her are good for her, and Tokopy's
like failure to understand humans. It was also another interesting
aspect of the show. It's like, oh, it's because she
doesn't finish her lunch or that she's getting it was
like to Coopy was just seeing everything at very much
fakes value at first. So watching this alien learn about
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humans and their darkness but also what makes them happy
was also really nice to see.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Has he I don't think he's even met or has
he even like dealt with humans before.
Speaker 5 (11:52):
Toakopy, I don't think he has came from came from
planet Happen, Yeah, planet happy, everybody's happy, and it's his
first time coming down to and he doesn't understand humans
or how they behave and all of that shit, and
just thinks it's gonna be an easy, yippy yeah I
do task, but uh yeah, it turns out it's a
lot harder than.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
There's one scene with the Kope turns into Shizuka to like, oh,
I could just talk this out with her bully basically
with Marina and then as happy or as as they
try and communicate, boom slapped in the face. Like Marin,
Marina was never willing to communicate, to talk it out,
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and to Kobe just never saw that coming in a
million years, right, She's like, oh, like like whatever, whatever,
like it could be settled, it could be talked about. Right,
Planet happy a very happy, idealistic place, right, he.
Speaker 4 (12:45):
Was very idealistic, very naive, like very innocent, I guess
would be the word. As far as like how he
approaches the world and uh and how reality kind of
hits him in the face harder than Maryna does. He
It reminded me so much of that like meme video
have you ever seen the guy hit the kangarrue to
save his dog and the kangaroo is just like shocked
at like the fact he just got hit. Like that's
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that's that was to Kope in that moment, right when
when mary Anda hit him.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
So this family just wakes up every morning and chooses violence.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
It's crazy, you know what One of the craziest moments
for me in this I believe it's in episode three
when happy or took copy hits Madina with the camera
and Madina dies. She's aka never looked happier. She's aka
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turn that frown upside down like it was fucking smile.
It was fucked up. She rarely smiled, if not never smiled.
She was after Madrina got killed right in front of her,
which would normally be such a traumatic thing, even if
like deep down someone would be happy that someone they
dislike or that's hurting them passes away. It's like having
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someone murdered in front of you, something that traumatic, and
like immediately she's just like happy, go lucky. It just
turns one to eighty degrees because all of her problems
are now going to be over and the one person
she like that was making her life miserable. Dies. Is
such a powerful like it's the emotion or it's such
a powerful scene more than the killing, but more sheizocause
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reaction to it.
Speaker 4 (14:26):
I think it's a very realistic scene that like you
don't see portrayed very often, and just how kids don't
quite understand the weight of everything going on in the world.
They're not thinking about like the repercussions of all this
things things going on. She's zoned in on her life
is miserable. This thing is causing it to be miserable,
and then that thing's gone. Right, So like the very
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unfiltered emotions of being happy about that are like understandable,
but also so dark and contrasting to like the overall situation, right,
because we literally get some classical music that's like duh, dud, dud.
It's like so triumphant as like she like smiles and
like there's just this fourth grader that basically got hit
in the head with a brick. It's talking about how
heavy the camera is and she just the happy camera
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turned into like a blunt force weapon as she just
got brutally murdered with it, and now it's just I
don't know. The juxtaposition of things in this show is insane.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
From the yeah, that ribbon that was supposed to save
their friendship being used to hang herself to this happy
camera being used as a literal brick to the head
is wild.
Speaker 4 (15:32):
Yeah, And it's one of those things where I think
this show really gets people and kind of goes at
the the core of human nature in there's not anybody
I've ever met that I can't like wrap my head
around the fact that they are capable of awful things. Right, Like,
there's there's multiple elements to people. There's their nature and
then there's like the nurture element, right and nature wise,
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you know, I don't think like the kids in the
show are bad by any means. Like, I don't think
they're bad. Mary and A made like she took things
to the extreme situation. But it's one of those things
where the nurture side of things, they were let down
very heavily by like the adults in their life and
those those around them, right, So, like they all have
their circumstances that like led them to become like either
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the worst version of themselves or you know, that led
them to such a place where they're so disconnected from, uh,
their emotions, Like they're so detached that like they're sitting
there smiling and happy at their classmate being murdered in
front of them, right Like, it's it's awesome, it's crazy.
It I don't know, it's one of those shows. It's
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it's memorable if nothing else.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
Yeah, another theme that was a little wild is Madina
going out of her way and to Coope couldn't like
figure it out. No matter what route to Cope took,
Mattina always found a way to find them. And it's like,
I'm gonna make her as unhappy as I am because
Manina is the reason she's doing this is because of
what's happening with her life. Was happening at home. She's
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getting bullied by her mother. Her mom and dadd are
fighting and basically divorced. Madhna's father is seeing our main
character's mother is a lot of fucked up things. So
Mandita is like, I'm unhappy. I'm gonna make Shizuka unhappy.
And we see that with the bullying throughout the series,
but in this specific episode, it's like Maryna was able
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to see that Chappy the dog is making our main
character happy and she does not want she's going to
be happy by any means. So no matter what route
to Kope took, she would find the dog, get it
to bite her, scream and get this dog taken away
and put and like put under.
Speaker 4 (17:46):
Insane And it's it's crazy that part in particular is
because you know, well, it seems like one of those
things that you almost think it's faded there first split
second and whatnot. It's one of those things where it's
not just they're happening the run into her, right, She's
out there looking for her, which is why no matter
how many times you redo it, you're gonna you're gonna
run into her. And uh. I was looking into the
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manga a little bit after I finished watching this show,
and apparently for that part in particular, it states like
the thing with the dog, he went back like over
a hundred times, it was like one hundred and one
times or something like trying to fix that, which I
mean if that was like a week each time, that's
like two years of like trying to help this girl,
you know, not get her dog died. Right.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
I did not get that understanding from the anime at all.
It seemed like a couple of times, like a week.
Speaker 4 (18:32):
Yeah, regardless, I think it was done really well in
the anime. But like the point is like he only
really gets past that loop because he's naive enough. You know,
he's kind of naive like a kid whenever he hears
the mom say, you know, oh yeah, the dog, he's
you went to go live with your dad, right, Like
he's in a better place right now, right, And like
Takobe takes that at face value and goes, oh oh,
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and the next problem is I just need to go
find out where her dad is to to like get
the dog and bring him back or what.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
The dog's dead, But no spoilers.
Speaker 4 (19:04):
I don't even think that's really a spoiler.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
He's dead, breaks, Yeah, he's dead, dude.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
Yeah, She's like, yeah, of course it's fucking dead. But
your dad didn't want to be into it. There's no
way your dad took it to Japan, to Tokyo.
Speaker 5 (19:19):
Dad died.
Speaker 4 (19:20):
Dog died. It was just I mean, control on a
dog that just been a fourth grader, right, Like kids
aren't going to understand that. You can kind of get
away with telling them he went to go live in
the farm. He's playing in the field, right, But.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
So Chatry Chad. I only watched the first three, so
pretty soon we're gonna move on to the other anime here,
But any any more, Briggs, Jordan and recon Well.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
To Copy's doesn't really have a clean story. It doesn't
have really villains, i'd say, or any simple solutions.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
It's all show is just real.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
It's just real. It's messy, raw emotions and you know,
a lot of the character's actions it might seem odd
at first, but uh, and we might not agree with
with all the character's choices, with all the bullying and
the harassment and all that stuff and all the deaths
that you see, but the whole the whole show just
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wants us to like understand what led to these things
to happen in the first place, What led to all
of this to happen? Which which is it?
Speaker 1 (20:25):
It feels real, man, interesting to see. It just feels
over the top. It is as crazy as things are.
It does have a crazy sense of realism to it,
even with a feel likely and unhappy gadgets.
Speaker 4 (20:38):
I feel like part of the reason it feels so
real is I know I've said the word jextaposition a
couple times, like it's the word of this episode or
for this show. But it almost feels so real because
of those things, like just the contrast between them, right,
And it's like the contrast in like a woman's smile
if you know she's angry, right, it just it just
hits different, Like you know she's mad, but she's smiling,
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And like those two things aren't supposed to be combined, right,
so it's uh seeing seeing the way some of this
plays out with like Marana's bullying being partially physical but
mostly just she she feels wrecked emotionally, so she's trying
to wreck her emotionally. She's going after like your dad's
not around, your mom's out sleeping around, your dog's dead.
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Like she she just goes all in on, like emotionally
wrecking our main character, right, And uh, I guess that's
I feel like it hits so hard because of how
outlandish this show can be. But yeah, that's about it
for me, all right.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
Mayna just goes to sleep, wakes up. Well, another day
of bullying.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
God, Okay, Subasa Reservoir Chronicle, I do want to talk
about it, even if we talk about these ones a
little bit more briefly, not a big deal.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
I'll leave you guys to it enjoy.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
Is there is there something you want to explain to everyone,
Jordan about this? Uh?
Speaker 4 (21:57):
I mean yeah, so Subasa Reservoir Chronicle is the show
Like I remember trying to watch this forever ago just
because I had like Dragon ball Z box sets and uh,
at the beginning of those DVDs and stuff, they had
like unskippable ads rather anime. Right, So that's how I
found this show. It made me watch the ad and
I'm like, you know what, I like the concept. I
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love the the idea of the of the show, and
you know it, I still do. I love the concept
of it, and I enjoyed the show itself. But yeah,
I guess the backstory that I've learned since then and
the context of this is that this was you know,
it was done by Clamp, or at least the manga
was so Clamp. You guys probably know them best for
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like the character designs like Kochias, right, Like their character
designs are very distinct.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
Don't know them, don't care.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
I'm going to give you a synopsis of this show
as well, like waiting for you in a second, But
go ahead, Jordan, continue.
Speaker 4 (22:54):
So Clamp is like a group of like four manga
artists that like started in the back in like the
mid nineteen eighties. Like for women that draw a bunch
of manga, they've done a lot of work, right, So,
like cart Captor Soccer was one of the ones Ricon
mentioned earlier, Like there's uh chow bits, there's there's so
many things that they've done, and I have Angelic Lair
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here behind me, and I guess the the towards the
very end of that. So Bossip reserv Our Chronicles uses
characters from these other shows, and like the core of
those characters as you kind of see, like there's different
worlds and it basically makes what I guess I would
describe as like the Kingdom Hearts of anime where they're
going across these different worlds. It's and it's using characters
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from these other series and like a.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
It's like like a near way.
Speaker 4 (23:42):
Kind of yeah, but also not really. It's hard to explain, right,
but it is its own thing. You can watch it
without knowing those other references and stuff. But it's a
I don't know, it's a very cool concept that, like,
like I said, when they did it, it was over
two hundred chapters. It was a very highly acclaimed manga,
and it like brought together characters that that aren't actually
the same character, but like it's the same core personality
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and character like character traits and stuff of those other characters,
same names, and like they brought him into like a
multi first type story right where they're going from world
the world and uh yeah, I guess for anybody that
hasn't seen Subasa Reservoir Chronicles, the main thing is that, uh,
you know, it's a it's a love story of a
guy loves a princess, she loves him, she loses all
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of her memories that are scattered across the universe, and uh,
the thing is, he wants to go save those feathers, uh,
to those feathers and memories. But if he does, you know,
he has to pay a price of like what's most
precious to him, and that's his connection to her. So
uh so basically through that, like if he saves her,
she'll never remember him, their connection, I'll never have memories.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
I don't know who the girl was that sent them
through these dimensions. I cannot remember her name.
Speaker 4 (24:54):
I don't remember either, but I know it's the girl
from xxx Hollis. That's like another series, right you hear
people talking about And basically.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
She used her magic to send them to a dimension
or another like universe where to try to find these feathers.
And they're gonna go around and find these feathers, which
is her memories. But in order to transport them, they
all had to give up something that they valued most
right or give up something. So one of them gave
up the tattoo on their back, which we have to
find out more about, probably a reference to the other show.
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One of them gave up their sword. Zoro basically gives
up his sword, and then our main character his thing
was like his connection to her, So now he could
save her, but in order to do so, he'd have
to give up his connection to her and her so
she won't even remember him and everything that they've been
through up until now, which is crazy. So I like
the concept. I think this older anime does have a
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certain charm to it.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
It.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
Clearly they cared about the series a lot. There's a
lot of emotion involved, there's so much music involved, and
I just think older anime, her older anime are just
different and they have their their charm and the like.
I don't know, I don't know. Someone in chat put
it put it perfectly. I can't remember the exact word
and they used, but this it seemed nostalgic, even though
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I have never watched it before, because it reminded me
of so many other anime I watched back in the day.
Of course, nowadays the anime has become more mainstream. We've
got better animation as time goes on and things are
more polished, but sometimes they don't. They feel more like
a product than like art. Sometimes sometimes not always, not
always right, And I do think there's something there's something
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nice about these older animes. I was thoroughly enjoying it,
despite it not being amazing by any means.
Speaker 4 (26:39):
I like it. Yeah, it's one of those I've never
finished a clamp thing, but I've like dabbled in a
lot of them, and there's definitely hard to it, right,
Like it definitely feels like like something you could see
yourself getting into, right. Yeah, it's also weird to describe too,
because it's like it's not like these are the same
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characters and they're from these worlds that like are the
other manga it's like except for maybe Xxxolic, but it's
like it's like the same character names and personalities, right,
So it's like card Captor Soakra that's literally just like
a Magical Girl anime. Like it's one of those I've
never delved into it a lot because I've never watched
a lot of Magical Girl anime, but it's like one
of the main Magical Girl anime and then it's like, uh,
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you know, Chillbits is like a slice of life like
rom com type thing. And then they have other things
that are the variety of genres, right, and characters throughout
all of them, and they're like, let's just take these
characters and mishmash them together and into its own unique story.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
Right.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
I do think you we would appreciate it more if
we had seen the alders where they're not necessary. For example,
there's this quote right where this guy says, there's no
such thing as coincidence. Fuck, I can't see the quote
now I covered it. There's no much thing is. There's
no such thing as coincidence in this world. What does
exist is only the inevitable. And apparently he says the
same line in his series or the series that he's in. Yeah, no,
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I no doubt a cool line. But imagine you heard
that in an important moment about a series that you love,
and then you see it again here, like it'd be
just one of those going crazy moments. Also market like
you w yeah, of course, And Marcus says, and the
style is classic anime. It's what you'd expect an anime
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to look like. Nowadays, anime feel more like another TV show,
the exotic feeling of a cartoon from a faraway country
is gone. I like that because obviously that's that's to
like a certain age group's experience. Like if we grew
up watching early two thousands anime or anime on TV,
it did have this Wow, these cartoons are so different
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than the cartoons I watch. This is not SpongeBob, right,
and it just felt very, very different. And I obviously
like as things get more popular in mainstream and we're
influenced from Japan, but also Japan is influenced from the West,
and it's like, of course things are going to transform,
and sometimes for the better, sometimes for the worst. It depends.
Like Dakope's original Sin is a masterpiece, right, it's a.
Speaker 4 (29:02):
Modern production value very well, yeah, it's not even comparable
like compared to oh yeah animated from back then. But
but I will say as far as character designs and stuff, though,
like I said, Chef has some of the or Clamp
has some of the best, uh, some of the most
recognizable character designs in anime, and I really like them. Right,
So anybody that grew up lacking Kokias or cart caapter
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soaker like you see, like a character design from a
show like that, and you're like, yeah, you know that's Clamp,
Like you just kind of know, right, Like I.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
Didn't know, like you do the research that you did.
But the second you said Clamp, I'm like, yeah, that
makes sense, that makes sense.
Speaker 4 (29:38):
It looks like stick figures right, like the very skinny
like the Switch was supposed to be all strong, but
he's he's, you know, skinny as hell.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
Right.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
I would have model. I would have loved to have
Recon's opinion on this because it's older.
Speaker 4 (29:51):
Yeah, don't worry.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
You guys have been chatting about this crappy subas the Chronicles.
I meanwhile, I've been watching the first episode of Isai
Smartphone what, so don't worry about me.
Speaker 3 (30:04):
Why didn't mention that you could have been watching Chronicle
just to buy some time while you guys chat about
the crappy Chronicles, don't worry about me.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
So the reason why we had a little bit of
a miscommunication chat because chat was asking why you didn't
watch it, and to be fair, you weren't here the
one week that we did it, and we talked about
what we were watching, and then we took a week
off and then we messaged in chat, just like the
links of what to watch, but maybe it wasn't the
most clear. I should have I should have been like,
this is what you need to watch three episodes of
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I did say I was and watch six of Tokopey's
original Sin and I didn't get that done. Unfortunately, It's fine.
I don't worry about anyway. Bunny Girl Sempi Season three,
not exactly loving it yet, but I do love One
Girls Sempi, so I'm sure it'll be It'll get better.
Jordan thoughts, Yeah, I actually too.
Speaker 4 (30:55):
Yeah, it's called like Rascal does Not Dream of Santa
Claus or whatever. The first part is that uh does
not dream of a lost singer, So it's adapting that novel.
And you know it's about the girl we meet in
the Little Sister movie, right that Uh that's in the
same idle group as Nooka, So we get to kind
of get to know a little bit more about her.
Time is passed there in college now and it's one
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of those things where I enjoyed it. It's still it's like,
not my favorite thing in the world, but I think
they did a good job of introducing the college arc.
If you will and showing that even as you get older,
there are certain things about growing up that never quite changes.
You try to find your place in the world, right
if you're suddenly in a new environment with new people,
you know, trying to find out where you fit in
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and and try to like trying to like maybe read
the room sometimes, or you're being influenced by those people
who where sudden you're a little bit more like them
regardles like you're gonna that's inevitable, right, So it's it's
it's this girl kind of going through those things, right
and still trying to be true to herself in spite
of that. So it's a fun little arc. I enjoyed it.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
I like the first episode because you do get the
introduction of like this new atmosphere at university. The characters
have gone in a little bit older. I like the
idea of characters aging and us following their journey throughout life.
So we're gonna see updates with Sakutab and maz relationship,
We're gonna see different characters. I feel like we get
arcs for characters, but because we're following them throughout their
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high school and university years, these are years where you
learn a lot about yourself. You go through a lot
of struggles, and you kind of discover who you are.
And I do think I like the idea where it's like,
we have a little bit of like Kai Day's arc
in the first season, but then we have another arc
for her in the movie, like we have more and
more things that these characters are going through. And I
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like that because it's like, oh, just because we finished
this idol's little arc here, we know that there's gonna
be more from her and more to this group of
idols and characters are gonna be going through. So even
though I didn't love these first three episodes, I know
I'm gonna get more in the future. And I did
like the the setup of the university arc, or like
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the teasing of this Santa Claus girl who has the
ability to give away these adolescent syndromes to people to
help them, and in this case, she gave the idle
character the ability to read the room and I understand
other people's emotions and thoughts and stuff. I like that.
I was a little bit underwhelmed with her specific arc
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that character for whatever reason, but I did like the
setup of the new university and the Santa Claus and
stuff like that.
Speaker 4 (33:32):
I guess I got a little bit lost too as
far as like, was there even adolescent syndrome involved in
this one or was it like it? I honestly don't
even know if there was, Like maybe there was, and
I just kind of missed it, but like it felt
like just naturally growing up, Like there's no physical manifestation
of it.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
It wasn't a manifestation like the one. I think what
happened was she was the type of person for the
longest time, who how do I say this, Like someone
could be giving her like a backhanded compliment or making
fun of her, and she would take it as fake
value and just be happy.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
Right.
Speaker 1 (34:02):
She's the type of person who, like, even if a
goal is impossible and doesn't see the real like other
people will be like, well, realistically, will we be able
to do this by this date? Probably not. She's the
type like, yeah, we're going to nationals whatever. I can't
remember what their goal was. It was to get to
a certain stadium with like ten thousand people, right anyway,
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Like she had this goal, and I believe the syndrome
that she got out of nowhere was the ability to
like read the room and be more understanding and realistic
to what people are thing. But the beauty of her
flawed self was that she was able to inspire the
people around her to keep on pushing towards a goal.
So that was something that I liked. But I do
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believe that the Santa Claus girl gave the syndrome. I
may have watched episode of four. Maybe that's why maybe
my bad.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
It may.
Speaker 4 (34:57):
I think what if it was first three dude close
out like the at least the Art of the Right,
so like it is that enclosed for that novel, but
it's a it's one where I guess I was, uh,
I need to maybe keep watching it the understand a
little bit more about that, because it almost seemed like
one where it's like even if there's not like a
physical manifestation of it, like there's still these things that
they're going through of like trying to fit in and
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is she learning to read the room to try to
fit in and things like that, and because you know,
in middle school she didn't really fit in and then
she decided to like transfer to get homeschooled instead. Uh,
and then they're it kind of worked out and stuff.
But like as you continue to grow older and get
put in new situations with new people and new environments. Right, Like,
there's gonna be you know, some of those things that
you never quite learned how to deal with in the past,
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or are going to like rise back up again. Right?
Do you try to learn to read the room a
little bit to get along with those people better near
you now or do you you just continue staying the
same as you were?
Speaker 1 (35:52):
Right?
Speaker 4 (35:52):
So it's growing up, is uh I guess, I guess
the overall theme there, and so it almost becomes like
harder to distinguish where like the adolescent syndrome ends and
then naturally growing up begins.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
Right, So that's true. And there was also they talked
about like her maybe exploring like an individual career, but
then she ended up coming back to the group and
she wanted to achieve that goal, which was nice. We
do have the Santa Claus Toka Kirishima, who at the
end of the third episode did say that she had
the ability to give these syndromes to people, So we're
probably gonna We're probably probably going to see more of
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that going on into the rest of the season, which
I'm excited for. There's also the character that our main character,
Sakuta meets in the first episode, who I thought for
sure was going to be like the female version of
him from another fucking timeline or something, because she had
no cell phone like him, and just like remind even
before the cell phone comment, I'm like, this girl reminds
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me so much of our main protagonist.
Speaker 4 (36:49):
Yeah, no, very very similar, right, So.
Speaker 1 (36:52):
That's what I called I called it in the first episode.
I'm like, that's it's literally a version of him from
another fucking reality timeline. Bullshit, sin rome split, whatever it
may be, that's what I what I was thinking. I'm
probably wrong, but I will. I'm looking forward to watching
more and see what happens.
Speaker 4 (37:08):
I just assumed it was a similar character from like
a different school, Like you know, all the kids in
that school also had adolescent syndrome, but she was the
one having to deal with it or something like that,
something along those lines.
Speaker 1 (37:16):
But yeah, maybe that's great.
Speaker 2 (37:18):
Could I'm glad you guys enjoyed for me. I I
like soot on my Bunny Girl SIMPI is great, especially
the two protagonists, the relationship and all that. It's probably
the best thing about Bunny Girl SIMPI. But you know
what's even better, it's aka smartphone. I love I love
how generic it is. I love how overpowered the antagonist is.
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I love how he gets his fucking air and he
just styles on everybody with his smartphone. Yeah, it's cool.
Speaker 4 (37:49):
I love it. He never changes. So Irikan, did you
have any like crazy thoughts about like the movies that
you maybe wanted to share whatever? I know, me and
Briggs already kind of talked talked about it at length
and stuff, but like if you had anything that you
want to done.
Speaker 2 (38:04):
Not really, I don't have anything else. I've only watched
the Kopies.
Speaker 1 (38:07):
I haven't watched the others. Do you know watch movies?
Speaker 3 (38:09):
No?
Speaker 2 (38:10):
No, I've only watched the first season of one of
yearls some point. I haven't seen the movie.
Speaker 1 (38:15):
Oh that means you weren't prepared for the other week either,
God damn it. This guy, this guy? Okay, what do
we want to do next week? Next week?
Speaker 2 (38:26):
At this time, I'm going to watch everything that you
guys sounds good?
Speaker 1 (38:30):
Well, we could all suggest one anime. We could do
that again.
Speaker 4 (38:35):
I'm poorn on minds. I'm still kind of thinking about it. Uh,
I have two of that, I considered.
Speaker 2 (38:41):
That I want you to watch something from this season
because the season is pretty good with some of the
new shows I'm thinking.
Speaker 4 (38:49):
I'm thinking, so all right, I'll go ahead and lay
out the ones that I had in mind then and
I'll let you guys give me your thoughts on which
one you'd rather do. But I thought about doing Car
Captors Opera, uh, just because it's one that's always been
on my list, but one I always kind of avoided.
But like, we just did Subasa. Uh so I'm like,
it'd be cool to see, you know, those two main
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characters and stuff, right the series that they were originally in.
So there's that connection there. But I guess if recon
didn't watch Subasa, maybe I'm leaning more towards uh Pet
Girl of Sakuraso, which is like an old favorite. Oh
you've seen it? Dang it? Yeah, Briggs, have you seen it?
Though it's the same authors, it's a pretty good connection there.
Speaker 1 (39:33):
So it's pretty good.
Speaker 4 (39:36):
The Pet Girl Pet Girls to what we watched this week, right.
Speaker 2 (39:42):
It's a it's it's slice of live rom comments about
a guy who takes care of a girl who is
incapable of taking care of herself. It's like that, but
there's a lot of like romance between the two and
all that. It's it's cute, you might like it.
Speaker 4 (39:56):
Well, you guys, pick one of those two because they're
both connected to what we talked about this weeks.
Speaker 2 (40:01):
Well, I mean, Jordan, I choose the other one that
I haven't seen.
Speaker 4 (40:05):
Or captered soccer.
Speaker 1 (40:06):
Okay, no, I really do not. I really wanted to
watch the pack Girl one instead, But you know, okay.
Speaker 2 (40:14):
Jordan, Jordan more more selections? What else you got?
Speaker 1 (40:17):
Okay?
Speaker 4 (40:17):
Oh no, you guys, go, yeah, you play more.
Speaker 1 (40:23):
I haven't watched that in a long time. Recon Have
you watched Claymore?
Speaker 2 (40:26):
I've heard of it, but I haven't seen it. But
I know it's about that monstrous slaying girl and all that.
It's badass, but I haven't seen it. Now I know
about it, though.
Speaker 1 (40:34):
I'm trying to go off my list of anime that
I still owe some kind of double dip here a
little bit, and I do owe twenty six episodes of Claymore.
So I'm going to watch. I'm going to watch the
first three with you guys, if that's all right.
Speaker 4 (40:48):
Yeah, sure it works for me.
Speaker 2 (40:49):
I'm time about.
Speaker 3 (40:53):
Watched Master.
Speaker 1 (40:55):
What's it called, uh, Ricon on netflixt Dirt Master?
Speaker 2 (41:02):
Is that the heavy? Yeah? That one?
Speaker 4 (41:03):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (41:03):
Se so funny. Anyway, Jordan continued, what's what's your what's
your choice, Recon?
Speaker 2 (41:11):
I'm looking have you guys seen mm hmm, probably not
from the season, honestly, all right, uh Jordan, you continue on,
what's your other?
Speaker 4 (41:28):
So I came up with another one? Since you also
shot down my other two, I'm gonna come up with
one that Riccon will actually watch, so I know he
like Samurai stuff, you guys. Have you guys ever heard
of a roney Kinchin? Of course, so before roney Kinchin,
there's a precen it Samurai.
Speaker 1 (41:46):
You watch Samurai Ax.
Speaker 4 (41:47):
Dude, it's a four episode ov A from nineteen ninety nine.
If you saw that, be like.
Speaker 2 (41:54):
No, I'm out, I'm nineteen nine.
Speaker 1 (41:58):
There's no there's no I'm out either too.
Speaker 4 (42:01):
You only get so many beatos here, okay, Samurai X.
I chose this for you. Ricon, You're like, yeah, so.
Speaker 2 (42:07):
You go back in time recommend a crappy anime.
Speaker 4 (42:09):
No no, no, it's an OVA, which means like they only
did four episodes, which means they made the high like
the quality for those episodes really good. Right, It's it's
one of those where even people that don't like roney
Kinchin like, I would recommend this right Like. It's just
it's like the prequel to that, and it's the tone
is very different.
Speaker 2 (42:24):
Oh no, I don't know exactly what you guys need
to watch. Alright, Alright, I want you guys to watch
Yonda Day Dark Elf.
Speaker 4 (42:35):
Yonder Red Dark Elf. Okay, so we got play more
Samurai X and yonder Rey Dark Elf.
Speaker 1 (42:40):
Oh boys, I think I actually watched thirty seconds of
this anime. Or maybe watch the trailer Yonder Day Dark Elf.
Maybe I watch the trailer and I'm not watching it,
but I guess I'm gonna watch it.
Speaker 4 (42:55):
I mean, I know what dark Elves are and I
know what Yonderreys are, but I don't. Yeah, you guys, is.
Speaker 2 (43:00):
Two combined and one Neonders and Elves. What can possibly
go wrong?
Speaker 1 (43:05):
I Chat is begging please let chat add one anime?
What what's your pick? Chat? Maybe?
Speaker 2 (43:12):
Oh god, Chat, I'm gonna make us watch four anime.
Speaker 1 (43:18):
I know Forgotten has been wanting us to watch xxx. Holic.
Would you guys be down?
Speaker 4 (43:23):
That would be another. That'd be another good one to
can we replace mine with xxx holics we only do three,
that'd be another one that's like.
Speaker 1 (43:31):
I want to watch the Samurai excellent though vacuum. Can
we do four?
Speaker 2 (43:37):
Four?
Speaker 4 (43:38):
We can do four, we can do four. But I
this is gonna be a busy week.
Speaker 1 (43:42):
So yeah, fair, fair, I'll try. Well, we'll focus the
main three are the main thing that we just did,
we just talked about, and if we have time, try
and watch Xolic.
Speaker 4 (43:58):
It's a it's another one.
Speaker 2 (44:00):
You know, just Jordan, you know, do your job, list them,
List them so I don't forget watch sounds good. I
got you. I haven't. I haven't continued to preserk in
a while. God damn.
Speaker 1 (44:12):
I was secretly hoping Jordan was, because when you're talking
about the Subossar Chronicle like things that were based off
I was secretly hoping you were going to recommend xxxolic
and not Card Capture Socera.
Speaker 4 (44:22):
So Card Capture Soccer was one of those where I'm like,
even before Medoka, I'm like, there's just like two magical
girl anime. I was like, I want to check out
one day and it was like Medoca and then Card
Capture soccer, and I just never I could never make
myself do it because I'm not a big magical girl.
Speaker 1 (44:38):
Guys, I shouldn't have shut it down. But he said
the pet one first, which I was down for. Then
Ricon had watched it and he shut that one down,
like I want to shut down the car capture or
at least.
Speaker 4 (44:50):
Both got a video. Okay, Surai, I'm so down for.
Speaker 2 (44:58):
Okay, this isn't this just look Rooney Kenshin.
Speaker 4 (45:01):
It's the prequel, so it's like it's not the same series,
but it's like it would be like before, like the
backstory of what happened prior to Ron.
Speaker 1 (45:11):
That sounds so high, but I'm so down.
Speaker 2 (45:12):
Okay, are you guys even watching the Rooney Kensin?
Speaker 4 (45:16):
I read it back in the day.
Speaker 1 (45:20):
With a new one.
Speaker 4 (45:22):
Yeah, I haven't watched any like newer stuff for it,
but I watched it way back.
Speaker 1 (45:25):
When when you seasons when you said Rooney Kensins like
seen it, I'm like, bro, you didn't see the original
way No, I've.
Speaker 2 (45:34):
Seen the new one both seasons.
Speaker 1 (45:36):
That doesn't count. It counts, it does count. It's literally
you don't know what he was referring to, is what
I was saying he could have watched the one with
that opening is the worst animy open it. I fuck it,
like I hate it.
Speaker 4 (45:51):
I will say I like Samurai X way better than
I like roney kensin so like as as far as
this prequel goes, this very specific prequel, so hopefully you
guys end up enjoying it as well.
Speaker 1 (46:04):
Bottles always talk about story.
Speaker 4 (46:09):
We get to actually see the backstory.
Speaker 2 (46:11):
You know. Yeah, man, I'm all right, it looks exciting.
We'll see how it is and you're gonna be fucking
shitty looking though, but it's fun.
Speaker 1 (46:20):
Get over it anyway. I hope you guys enjoyed today's
episode of Rank Cafe. We'll be back next week with
more anime talks, and I'll see you all next time.
Bang bang later