This Pokémon Season is Made For The FANS - Pokémon Journeys

Briggs and Gozen cover the first 12 episodes of pokemon Journeys 

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
What up everyone, Welcome back to the anime vision You
got me goes In from anemey Opera and Briggs from
Briggs eighty a. What up Briggs?

Speaker 2 (00:09):
What a boys? Good to be back and excited to
talk about some Pokemon Journeys.

Speaker 1 (00:14):
Yeah, honestly, I want to, in a way watch all
of Pokemon. I don't know if it's ever going to happen,
but I think i'd have a bunch to watch because
I only watched as a kid, remember when we were
kids like here and there. But it's been cool to
actually watch something for the podcast Pokemon related, and I

(00:37):
gotta say I was I was happy with it. What
about you?

Speaker 2 (00:42):
Yeah, there's a lot of episodes, but I do like
Pokemon Journeys a lot and want to keep on watching
if you're interested.

Speaker 1 (00:49):
H No, I definitely am. I just don't know if
you wanted to like go straight from like twelve to
twenty four, or did you want to like you know,
skip to the to the fights or what did you
want to do?

Speaker 2 (01:00):
We'll have to figure it out. My general thoughts for
Pokemon Journeys, I think one, I had a ton of fun.
I had a ton of fun with it, Like from
an nostalgia standpoint. As a Pokemon fan, I loved it.
I feel like whoever created this specific season clearly cares
about Pokemon and understand what the fans want. I will

(01:20):
say there are other seasons that I'm just like annoyed
sometimes watching it because I'm like, there's so much good
they could have done and they fall short, and I
feel like this is just like it's for the Pokemon fans,
and it's probably this is a lot the last season
with Ash, and I feel like they went into this
knowing that.

Speaker 1 (01:37):
Yeah, I agree, it felt special. It didn't feel like
doing putting it out to put it out, which it
sometimes does with these too big to fail, Like so
many episodes shows, it sometimes does feel like they're putting
it out. You know, kids are watching, they'll they'll get
excited by Pikachu. They don't need to, you know, we

(01:59):
don't need to do a good story necessarily. But I
think that this was actually really fast paced, and part
of what allowed that was I remember back in the
day when we watched the first season, so he was
just walking or then eventually biking from place to place,
right whereas here they just get on a plane and

(02:19):
they're in a completely different region, so literally there was
no limit to what they could explore in these first
twelve episodes. So I think that helped it be like
super fast paced and able to explore like crazy things.
I remember the beginning, you know, it's it's introducing us
to the Pokemon world, to be fair, so you don't

(02:40):
need a legendary every episode. But it was also crazy
how many legendaries we got in such a short period
of time in terms of episodes. Absolutely, yeah, So I.

Speaker 2 (02:52):
Want to agree and disagree. I want to agree that
it was fast paced in regards to like they could
get to different regions very quickly, and the type of
Pokemon and the cool moments that we saw very fast.
I do feel at times Pokemon one piece they have
a way of like keeping the pace slow, so you
could do a billion episodes, but especially like sometimes like

(03:16):
the conversations and stuff. Maybe just my patience. I watched
it at like one point twenty five and one point
five speed, and honestly, it was amazing, Like I fucking
loved it. I do think watching it at normal speed
sometimes was a little bit like I'm like, all right,
get there, I know where you're going.

Speaker 1 (03:32):
Get there. I feel like also a kid show.

Speaker 2 (03:34):
It's also a kid at one point one point five
helped me a lot.

Speaker 1 (03:38):
But the slowness of it in that sense like you're
talking about, I felt was less, you know, slowness and
more taking a breather to enjoy the Pokemon world and
the beauty of the Pokemon world. I felt like there
was a lot of that in this season. Like some
episodes they had those slower moments, but it didn't feel

(04:03):
slowly like for example, I mean even we have the
episodes up to reference and literally the picture they used
for episode three, which was Ivy Sores Mysterious Tower, it's
them acting like an Ivy sore and just enjoying the
breeze on their face and that, you know, if you
just want action, that's like, well what is this? But

(04:25):
it really it was enjoyable. It lets you appreciate the
moment and the beauty of the Pokemon world they created.
So I actually really like those kinds of moments.

Speaker 2 (04:36):
I do think they did a fantastic job. I think
it's just me as an adult, I sometimes I was like,
for these type of shows, I just need to watch
a slightly faster paced and especially in the first three
or four episodes, there were one hundred percent introducing the world,
giving us a refresher on like who ashes, what Pokemon are? Yeah,
things that we are, things that we already know. They

(04:58):
were refreshing us. Yeah, first three to four episodes.

Speaker 1 (05:01):
Yeah. I feel like they do that because there they
always assume, Okay, there might be someone who just starts
with this season. M hm, it was just a new kid.

Speaker 2 (05:12):
There's a new kid turning six or seven that wants
to get into Pokemon and it's going to turn on
their TV and watch the most recent episode or the
most recent season. And I do understand why.

Speaker 1 (05:22):
Yeah. It's the same thing with cards, right, Like, for example,
someone might start collecting Pokemon like a few the last
few years compared to us who grew up with the
OG stuff, and for them like Amon Vmax or moon
Breon card maybe nostalgic in the future, like the charge

(05:44):
are base that card is for us, right, Yeah, And
that's that's why I think is actually cool about Pokemon.
It's like not tied to one single generation. It seems
to have people coming in and they make it like
that so you can come in and all of a sudden,
it's so deep, like the fandom there, there's people in
this pocket, people in this pocket. It's it's crazy. And

(06:06):
then obviously there's overlaps sometimes, but yeah, it's it's amazing
what a franchise can do. And I think Pokemon's the
biggest one in the world. So yeah, let's keep that
in mind while while going into this.

Speaker 2 (06:17):
So I will say, goes, and you're jumping into a
beautiful season because I know you've only watched an episode here,
an episode there. Like I've watched hundreds of Pokemon episodes,
Like I've watched all the way up until Diamond and Pearl,
which I know there's a lot of content content after
that after that, but I've watched a lot of seasons
and I feel like this season actually cares and they

(06:37):
are taking their time with it. The first episode is
literally called Enter Pikachu, and it's like a prequel episode
and it covers like peachw Pikachu when they were back
when they were peachew which I've never seen this before,
this content before, and they're like wholesome life with like
I don't even know what what the Pokemon was called, uh,

(06:58):
King of Scan, Yes, Kengis Khan and it was so
cute Pichu in Kengiskan's little pouch and this like the
events leading to you with evolution like things like this,
I find so cool.

Speaker 1 (07:12):
Yeah, I like the fact that it could at this point,
it's such an old show like this came out in
twenty twenty, so Pokemon has been around for a long time,
including the anime, and so yet they could give us fresh,
very important information, and one of that is Pikachu's backstories.
So I really appreciated the fact that we didn't just

(07:35):
get filler stuff and stuff that doesn't change fundamentally what
we know. We also got the whole Pikachu backstory, which
is very big deal. And I like the fact that
we got it so far into the show they can
still give us big deals.

Speaker 2 (07:52):
Exactly, And I feel like having a wholesome backstory like
that makes sense as to why Pikachu becomes the amazing
like Pokemon that they.

Speaker 1 (08:00):
Are elaborate that. Why do you think, why do you
think that backstory makes it like that?

Speaker 2 (08:05):
Well, Pichu is by themselves and kind of going through
it and then had like a kind of a parental
Keengis Khan taking care of it and like mothering it
or fothering it or whatever. And I just feel like,
I don't know, Pikachu throughout the seasons cares for others,
tries to protect others, and like has obviously the Peach

(08:28):
Pikachu's been around for so long, but whatever a new
Pokemon joins like the cause I feel like Pach Pikachu
wants to take care of them right. Also, Pikachu do
isn't like being pokeables. I think there's a backstory to that,
but always wants to like ride on top of Ash.
It's actually these contributing factors.

Speaker 1 (08:44):
I mean there there is that definitely like yeah, like
like it was in Kangiskan's Poach. Yeah, yeah, likes to
be on ash. But what I was interested in is
why do you think it went from that? Pichu leaves
sad story a bit because it's like the Picchu is
getting too heavy along with the baby Kannga Scan, so

(09:06):
it didn't want the King of Scan to suffer even
though the Kanistan was down to keep carrying them both,
and so it left and eventually you know, became a
Pikachu better able to uh fend for itself. But why
do you think it started off in a foul mood
as like because it was in the poke ball or

(09:27):
you know when it started with the Ash Journey, because
it was pretty happy like Pokemon. Maybe it was sad
that it had to leave. Maybe it's like being captured.

Speaker 2 (09:40):
Yes, yeah, I mean at the end of the day,
he was probably captured against his will, given to a
random trainer, and the trainer expects like, yeah, we're gonna
be best friends now without earning its like trust or
respect in any way.

Speaker 1 (09:52):
But that's funny because I feel like Pikachu is an
exception most of the time. Even if it's hard to
catch a Pokemon, once you catch them, they're like, hey,
I accept you as my trainer, you know, and we've
seen that with we can get to it. But Ash's
friend what's his name again, Go Go yeah Go literally

(10:15):
catches things so easily. It irritates me. I just remember
playing the old games and like having to like you know,
bring the HP down of the Pokemon and like put
him to sleep or something, and this guy was just
like damn, caught a pincer, bam, caught everything. So that way.

Speaker 2 (10:33):
I was really streaming at streaming like attack him once,
don't just throw a Pokemon at him. He's probably the
level level five or under like Starter Pokemon within the
region a lot of the time, but like, still.

Speaker 1 (10:46):
Yeah, that let's better be that. But I did like
how he got reality checked when he actually tried to
do a battle, and he probably thought it would be
as easy as as catching Pokemon are and then he
got absolutely destroyed. So because I think it was going
too easy for him, like you know what I mean.
So I'm glad that. Okay, So his strength is I

(11:09):
guess thinking and catching Pokemon, whereas Ash is obviously the
one that battles. And I was for a while there,
I was upset that Ash isn't catching anything. Bro. I
guess he scratched that itch.

Speaker 2 (11:23):
I feel like, yeah, he doesn't. He doesn't care to
catch anything unless it's like a poke when he's really
interested or has built a bond with first or has
like some type of I don't know, there's something more
than just like I want to catch them, catch them all,
which was kind of his thing. Yeah thing, I guess
that was just a series.

Speaker 1 (11:39):
It's good because every Pokemon season is sort of like
Loofy getting the straw hats with that team of six,
you know, the Ash has to get so I think
that every season they want to be very careful with
what kind of Pokemon that he catches they devote time to,
because it may end up being like his final team

(12:01):
of six that he goes on to do the championship
with or whatever.

Speaker 2 (12:06):
Yeah, that's true.

Speaker 1 (12:06):
Yeah, I do think.

Speaker 2 (12:07):
Yeah, we have one hundred and someone episodes of this,
of this Pokemon journeys, there's probably no rush in catching
those pokemon. He could do one every twenty episodes, you know.
I do want to say we got a backstory for
Ash and Go as well, when they were children, going
to like Ash mist it though, right he missed it,

(12:29):
and then that's how Go ended up seeing Mew. I'm trying.
I'm trying to like connect the dots here. I feel
like I was a little bit confused when I first
watched it.

Speaker 1 (12:38):
They're good at they're good at creating drama because yeah,
so apparently, and again I don't know if I even
knew this, but me, you can just take the shape
of any other Pokemon. So it was literally pulling a diddle.
Now hopefully it's something like I don't know, I don't
know what it is. Literally, maybe it's like using Psychic

(13:00):
to trick everyone into thinking it's looking like a different
Pokemon because it's the Psychic Pokemon, so it's like an illusion,
or maybe because they keep saying it has the DNA
of like every Pokemon, so maybe it can actually just
transform into them. I have no idea. It's it's definitely
new for me, but it was interesting and it was
funny how he kept saying Yo Mew will be the

(13:22):
first Bookemon I catch, and they really got emotional for
a kid level show, with score Bunny like wanting to
be partners later on and then him being like love this, Yeah,
I can't. You has to be my first kid. So
obviously it made up for it that he didn't eventually

(13:44):
pick it, but it was so sad bro like this
left everything jumped on the train, was following them and
then just got rejected.

Speaker 2 (13:53):
So me can literally learn can actually do it? It
could use transform Okay, it could use the move transform.

Speaker 1 (13:59):
Yeah, Like did A like it?

Speaker 2 (14:03):
What was I gonna say?

Speaker 1 (14:04):
So?

Speaker 2 (14:04):
I don't know if you realized. No, obviously you realized
the first couple episodes that what I thought was cool
was that they were giving us like the backstory of
Pikachu and Ash and stuff like that containing stuff that's
already been done and already been shown along like giving
us a refresher along with new content, which I honestly
really enjoyed.

Speaker 1 (14:24):
And they reanimated that they didn't get lazy exactly.

Speaker 2 (14:29):
So prior to this season once they are, you know,
going around catching Pokemon doing things. All the other seasons
prior to this are Cannon. They all happened. Ash has
ten billion badges, seventy to one hundred plus Pokemon back home,
those are all Like when I was watching this and

(14:50):
I was like, oh, he's getting Pikachu, I thought they
were like redoing it. They were like gonna like refresh
us on the on the back story, and it was
gonna be like a brand new like restart journey for
for some reason. But like all the stuff that happened
before this all actually happened.

Speaker 1 (15:04):
Yeah. Yeah. The only confusing thing is the movies, because.

Speaker 2 (15:08):
The movies aren't Cannon.

Speaker 1 (15:09):
Yeah. I guess, I guess that makes sense because I'm thinking,
like they acted like they never met Lugia or obviously
Lugia was in the second movie. But I guess you
got to remember that the movies aren't canon. Yeah, and
Mew like the Mew and the movies and stuff like that. Yeah,
so I guess it's like one piece in that sense.

Speaker 2 (15:27):
Yeah, I just thought I was a little bit confused.
I thought they were like redoing it, and it is
gonna be like Ash is real journey and how he
becomes the Pokemon Master and they're giving him like a
final like goodbye type of thing before bringing in a
new trainer. But then Team Rocket shows up when they're
like they already know Ash. I'm like interesting. And then
as things go by, I'm like, yeah, no, they just
everything happened prior. They just kind of gave us a

(15:49):
refresher in the beginning. And then somehow he's still thirteen
years old but has been on like nineteen journeys. But
Go just started his journey.

Speaker 1 (15:56):
I know he started at ten. I don't know if
what his official ages at this at this series, but yeah,
he started at ten, I know that.

Speaker 2 (16:05):
So yeah, maybe he had a three year head start
and then Go just started now.

Speaker 1 (16:09):
Yeah, And and I like the fact that in this
one Pikachu is strong, right, Like sometimes I just feel
like in the past what upset me was, you know,
how there was Circle Pokemon Diamond Pokemon, Star Pokemon going
off the cards, or you could say, like you know,
stronger weaker. Like sometimes you get a new season and

(16:32):
Pikachu after everything gets been through would lose to like
a circle Pokemon and it's like.

Speaker 2 (16:37):
Dude, what are you doing if you lost to a
level five snivey very it? Actually, this is what I'm saying.
I do think this season really cares. Other seasons are
just like, let's just restart. It's like, let's just give
them a restart, a refreshery. This season definitely cares a lot.

Speaker 1 (16:56):
I appreciate this season builds on it. And part of
it is probably I I'm guessing we're not going to
have gyms, but maybe we will later. But the gym's
kind of kind of pigeonholes them into like repower scaling,
because you know, they kind of imitate the games, and
then in the games, you're obviously going from weaker gyms

(17:16):
to stronger gyms like every generation, and so that kind
of you know, messes up with like the Pikachu strength level.

Speaker 2 (17:24):
Well, okay, I might just do you mind if I
spoil spoil like the new system for you in this season?

Speaker 1 (17:29):
Sure?

Speaker 2 (17:29):
I think I watched one episode at one extra episode. Sure,
so there might still be gyms, but they're basically there's
a ranking system, an online ranking system in this thing
where when you challenge a trainer or maybe a gym
leader el gym, there's like an ELO and there's like
four different tiers, and if you make it to the
highest tier, then you can compete in like the final

(17:49):
tournament against Like I think you watched episode twelve and
it had like the World Coronation series.

Speaker 1 (17:56):
Yeah, so twelve flashes of titans, the guy with the
dragon trainer Lance versus Leon right Leon, so.

Speaker 2 (18:04):
Lance and Leon. I believe in the in the in
the video games were like part of the Elite four
or gym leaders or something, so clearly, like in the Cannon,
they're like the best of the best. And I think
basically if Ash wins enough ELO throughout this season, he
can the tournament. I don't even challenge him like that tournament,
Like this was the finals of the tournament, I think,

(18:26):
but there's probably a whole tournament with tons of leaders
and or tons of trainers prior to that battle.

Speaker 1 (18:32):
The only thing that bothered me, though, go ahead, The
only thing that bothered me is there was one Pokemon
versus one Pokemon, Like what the fuck?

Speaker 2 (18:38):
Yeah, they should be like at least.

Speaker 1 (18:40):
That's a weird. That's a weird. I'm thinking it wasn't
like the tournament because I think the tournament is always
multiple pokemon. I think maybe it was a tournament, but
they did say it's for who's the best, so I
don't know, but it's weird that it was just like
charge R versus Red Garrettos.

Speaker 2 (18:56):
Yeah, maybe for the finals they're like choose one, but
to that, like the other tournaments, maybe it was like
mult I would hope it'd be multiple pokemon.

Speaker 1 (19:05):
Yeah, me too. I like how they you'd think Garrettos
would end up being like super effective against charge Are,
but it's cool how they ended up giving charges Are
thunder Punch, which is very super effective against Garrettos because
there's a multiplier there because he's flying and water, which
are both weak against lightnings. So yeah, that was that

(19:28):
was cool. I like the thought they put into these battles,
even when like situations like when Pikachu uses electric web
and bounces off of it as electric Pokemon and uses
it to power up its irontail or something. It's very cool.

Speaker 2 (19:44):
Yeah, I'm telling you, man, I think they really did
this season for the fans, it felt it feels so
much better than the other the other I don't want
to say crap seasons, but there were definitely some crap
seasons that I was just like.

Speaker 1 (19:54):
Yeah, if that's the case. And for for reference on IMDb,
they're all like over seven out of ten, right, and
some approaching eight, which is I would think rare for Pokemon.
A lout of the episodes we watched, like, so, yeah,
it's clear that a lot of people think it's a

(20:14):
solid show, and I agree, Yeah, there was there was
a lot of a lot of good parts in it.
You want to talk about the Lugia part.

Speaker 2 (20:25):
Sure, I'm trying to remember which episode that's.

Speaker 1 (20:27):
So, that's episode two to Lugia just shows up, takes them,
takes them on a ride, and they figure out a
little cool things. And that's part of what I like
about Pokemon, even like reading the cards is learning a
bit about the Pokemon and something about it. Just like
you're a biologist and you're like researching animals. Here they

(20:51):
research for the lab, and so you find out cool
Pokemon statistics or facts, and here is something like Lugias
thing about Lugia's coat or something that that it wasn't
as they thought it would be, and something like I
can't remember the specific details, but I just remember it's
cool getting to know these details about fan favorite Pokemon.

Speaker 2 (21:12):
Mm hmm. Honestly, I just really enjoyed, like the scenery
of them on top of Luga going through the world,
Lukia's attacks, them going underwater, Lucia caring about the safety
of ashing and go, and like the wholesomeness of that.

Speaker 1 (21:26):
I really liked, And I like how it wasn't It
didn't have to be, uh, we're going to catch you
like or beat you like obviously Ash wanted to, but
eventually they just became friends and they they appreciated a
moment with the Pokemon without needing to beat it or
catch it. And although obviously as a trainer you want

(21:47):
to catch that, Lugia like, oh yeah, I think we
can relate to it if we played the game.

Speaker 2 (21:52):
I rely watched the stress. I'm like that was that
was the wholesome I love it, but.

Speaker 1 (21:55):
Now exactly, but I I do like, uh, how there's
something for and I think the new generation from what
I heard without Ash focuses more on different ways to
kind of move into Pokemon world and different goals, not
just being the strongest. But it's cool that we see
so many different ways to enjoy the Pokemon world, and

(22:17):
even like games like Pokemon Snap encourage you to do
that where you're not catching it, you're just trying to
see Pokemon their habitat and grab cool pictures of them.
So again makes the Pokemon world deeper and something I
appreciate about this season.

Speaker 2 (22:36):
Like you mentioned, the bubble Sore moment with kind of
was very wholesome. I like the kind of I didn't
love Go as a character at first, but he was
definitely right in certain regards where it's like, let's let
the Pokemon figure it out, because if we just do
stuff for them, then they're not going to know how
to do it themselves. So let's not baby them. Like
we're here to help each other and assist each other,

(22:57):
but sometimes he's got to like let each other learn,
you know, learn from their mistakes.

Speaker 1 (23:03):
I like, yeah, I like how you're.

Speaker 2 (23:05):
In their lives. You don't want to you don't want
to interfere in their lives so much that you affect it.

Speaker 1 (23:09):
Right, Yeah, I like how flawed Ash is, like obviously
flawed as a character, but but that makes interesting interactions, right, like, but.

Speaker 2 (23:19):
Such a good such a good person, like he just
wants to help yeah, exactly, Yeah, starts hitting his head
against the wall. He just wants to help little buddy.

Speaker 1 (23:26):
Out exactly, And and he rushes in. He he says
stuff he probably doesn't mean, like, you know, I don't
need your friendship stuff like that. But it's just this
kid energy which is like super strong, and and then
sometimes he'll rush in and mess up. But it makes
for entertaining character for sure.

Speaker 2 (23:47):
Yeah, and you now remember these you guys are like ten.
I went saying different ages. I don't know, they're like
they're like eleven and a half.

Speaker 1 (23:53):
They're definitely at least ten now, now Ash could be more,
but they probably didn't age age him, knowing how cartoons work. Yeah, yeah,
he just gains experience and doesn't gain age.

Speaker 2 (24:05):
Dermatologists hate him. He still looks thirteen at Yeah. Yeah,
how did you like scorebun Wait wait wait before score
Bunny Team Rocket gets introduced this episode? Yeah, and I
was little like they have that little device. Oh also
the Pokemon choices. I'm all over the place. I'm all
over the place the Pokemon choices for like Lance and

(24:28):
Leon and even for Team Rocket. I fucking love it.
They're just bringing back like strong ogs that everyone loves.

Speaker 3 (24:34):
They're like charges are Garrettos, yeah, or its like the
bell Sprout, like it's either cool epic like the Tyrannu
Tar and the Garrettos, or it's like funny, or it's
like bell Sprout and Belsro is not gonna do anything
against that giant turtle Pokemon.

Speaker 1 (24:50):
I don't even know its name exactly.

Speaker 2 (24:54):
And they even way Lord, I don't know if we've
got you got there. I kind of I was loving it.
I was loving it so much that I kept on
watching more episodes and I just like I could tell
whoever made this cares because they're like, let's let's do
some stuff for the ogs and then showing Tyrannatar and
of course like the fight the finals of the of
the Coronation, They're like, let's do Charzard and Garrettos pokemon

(25:16):
everyone loves.

Speaker 1 (25:17):
And not just that Red Garrettos, which you know, well,
if you played the second Gene, that's one of the
Pokemon you catch, the Red Garretos.

Speaker 2 (25:25):
And I bet you. As the season kind of goes on,
part of the reason why they probably ended one pokemon
is they don't want to spoil the other pokemon. These
these epic gym leaders have or trainers have, true and
I think they're gonna be from other regions, like OG's
amazing Pokemons from other regions. So like throughout Ashes travels,

(25:45):
there was always like a couple of cool Pokemon that
everyone loved, and I have a feeling that Leon's gonna
be like I got chars Are. But also in the
second reason, I got like Blazerkin, like I don't I
don't know, probably not.

Speaker 1 (25:59):
Fire, but yeah, yeah, no, I sure, I know, one
hundred percent. Yeah. So what do we want to talk
about next? Score Bunny?

Speaker 2 (26:08):
Yeah, so did you did you enjoy the Team Rocket
coming back in the bedroom?

Speaker 1 (26:12):
Yeah? One hundred percent. You know, you know, Team Rocket
is epic and I was glad to see them because
I don't know for sure in the anime, because again
I pretty much watched some of Jen one, some of
Gen two, and as a kid, we didn't have streaming services,
so it was just like what's on TV at the time,
and you're not watching in order really you're just catching

(26:33):
what you can at the time, and so, you know,
I didn't know much, but I know in the games,
it stops being Team Rocket, it starts being Team Magma
or Team Sapphire or you know, like there's different kinds
of enemies. And I don't know if the anime kept
Jesse and James throughout, so there.

Speaker 2 (26:52):
Was always Jesse and James, but there were there were
other evil organizations through other seasons, and then Jesse and
James would just like pop in there and be like
Team Rocket.

Speaker 1 (27:02):
Okay cool. But yeah, so for me, as someone who
didn't know if they would return, I was really glad
to see them return for this season. Obviously, Jesse and James.
You know Iconic Mouth, they keep doing the Team Rocket
esque and not Team Rocket esque Power Rangers esque intros,

(27:23):
which are always enjoyable. Yeah, yeah, they say the same
thing every time, but I love it. Yeah one d
perc No, I was hyped and if I don't know
if you know, Briggs, but they're coming out with a
Team Rocket set Pokemon card wise, and people are so
hyped about it because yeah, that Team Rocket carries so

(27:45):
much weight because people love it so much, like even
Ogs would remember like Dark Pokemon, which are pretty much
Team Rocket Pokemon. It was one of the most popular
sets back in the day. So yeah, definitely I felt
the Team Rocket hype.

Speaker 2 (28:02):
Hell yeah, all right.

Speaker 1 (28:04):
Also, I want to just say, I just want to
say we'll get to this probably, but the Whale Lord
using splash, again, that's something that real fans would appreciate
because splash is like the stupidest, weakest move, and you'd
associated with back in the day with just using it
with a magic carp and here they gave it to
Whale Lord, which is just the size is huge, and

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thus inevitably a weak move like splash ends up being
like a title wave.

Speaker 2 (28:32):
Or I loved it. I thought it was so good.
It's like, yeah, like a gigantic Pokemon like that, using
splash is gonna be like a tsunami exactly.

Speaker 1 (28:42):
I like the little details like that.

Speaker 2 (28:46):
Oh my god, I love it. Score Bunny, I really
like the personality of score Bunny.

Speaker 1 (28:51):
Yeah, And that's something you can say every Pokemon seems
to have personality here and in character seems to have
their own personality, and Score Bunny is definitely like playful
kicks like ready to hit ash, and I think we've
seen that with like the Pokemon and Team Rock in
the past, like was like weeping Bell or something like

(29:15):
eating James's face or something like that. So it's interesting
seeing like these animals interacting and their personality.

Speaker 2 (29:24):
Yeah, and we got some wholesome moments between Score Bunny
and Go, even though like you said, it was kind
of like sad at first, when it's like clearly score
Bunny wanted to be Go with Pokemon and he's just
like no I would have mewt. So then as their
bond grew and as they work together, especially fighting the
Dynamax Noorlax, which we'll talk about in a second, he
eventually catches score Bunny as his first Pokemon and I

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loved it.

Speaker 1 (29:48):
Yeah, and the interacting of different Pokemon in the Pokemon
world is interesting. We talked about Peak peachw and Kenga
Scan and here, uh, Score Bunny. He is taking care
of three of those fox Pokemon I think they're called
Nickets or something like that, and so he's kind of
their leader and the poked X doesn't recognize him because

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he's covered in mud, and so yeah, it's interesting how
you know they were having trouble, but then he helped them,
and then eventually they learned his tricks and showed him
so that he could leave and go with Go because
he really liked Go after Go complimented him. And then
we have this whole series of funny events where he's

(30:32):
trying to get their attention and like laid back. You know,
I'm cool, no big deal, I'm not trying to get
your attention kind of way. But it keeps failing until
they get to the Snorres.

Speaker 2 (30:44):
Right. How did you feel about the Dynamas.

Speaker 1 (30:49):
Yeah, so again, my personal experience colors the experience of
me watching the show. I got into back into Pokemon,
I thing with sword and Shield, and so I really
like seeing the Dynamax now in the show after I've
seen it so many vmaxes in the cards, and so yeah,

(31:10):
I really enjoy it. I even knew that the Dynamax
Snorlax would end up having a many island on itself
pretty much.

Speaker 2 (31:18):
So that's like that's Cannon in the cards and in
the game as well. It's the same. I thought, maybe
like the DYNAMAXI might be different depending on the Pokemon,
like this one, this one Dynamax with a fucking waiting
under a tree trying to get that honeycomb or whatever
they had.

Speaker 1 (31:31):
The Snorlax Dynamax may even be the chase card of
the first Sword and Shield set. It's not super expensive,
but I think it's the most expensive of those cards.

Speaker 2 (31:42):
I mean, it's a really cool Dynamax. It's so different.

Speaker 1 (31:45):
Yeah, the only problem is like they hadn't introduced like alltarts,
which is pretty much like we see in the shows
Pokemon in real world full art situations. So it was
before a certain set, it was just like Snorlax and
a bunch of colorful lines and effects behind him, which

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isn't that interesting, right, Like you'd rather see dragon nightes
sleeping in the sky with Pharaohs passing underneath than generic background.

Speaker 2 (32:16):
Honestly, dude, Pokemon's so cool.

Speaker 1 (32:18):
I know. And that's what I'm like. Again, we're sticking
the poke about topic, but just very quickly, I'm I'm
looking at you, Gio, And again, a lot of their
backgrounds are just for the cars, generic, whereas the fact
that Pokemon can put them in real life situations like
real animals gives them such a leg up in my
opinion for how cool the cards can get. How cool

(32:41):
the yeah, how cool the the art can get on
the cards. So yeah, like you don't you don't picture
dark Magician girl having coffee with you Gi, for example,
because they're kind of associated with just coming out for
the card game and not with the real world.

Speaker 2 (32:58):
Yeah, they have their strength consist I feel like the
concept of Pokemon is so much better. It's something that has.

Speaker 1 (33:04):
So much deep you could mind it so much more.

Speaker 2 (33:07):
Yeah, but the game is better. The anime is just better.
Oh man, the actually just so much. It just better
about Yuyi. Oh, but then the concept of Pokemon is
just unmatched.

Speaker 1 (33:22):
Yeah, like again, and that's debatable, right, not everybody would agree,
and it's like what season of Pokemon versus what season
of you Gio? But to be fair, I haven't watched
I haven't watched the ones we were gonna watch with
with Knuts at some point, you know, the five d's
or whatever. Yeah, you guys said it was good, Like,
I don't know, I just see those designs for some

(33:44):
of those newer ones I liked kind of g X
like that. I was still kind of into it at
that point, but then some of the designs and the
crazy hairstyles for some of the new ones. It just
it didn't get me to keep watching or want to watch,
you know, I.

Speaker 2 (33:59):
Think that's fair. I just I don't know. I don't
even know how to properly explain it, because obviously the
first scene of Yeoh is rough around the edges as well.
It just feels like it's.

Speaker 1 (34:08):
Just a nostylship for me. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (34:10):
Yeah. For a long time the Pokemon anime, while fun
and the concept is so fun, it just felt like
they were sometimes just shitting it out just to like
get something out there, like we're just never gonna stop
releasing Pokemon seasons. Well, a lot of Ugo seasons were
just like, in my opinion, super hype. And the card

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game is just like a better game. The concept that
Pokemon can't be touched, it's like it's been around forever
for a reason and everyone knows it for a reason.

Speaker 1 (34:40):
And I did.

Speaker 2 (34:40):
I love the concept when I was eight, and I
love the concept now that I'm twenty eight. Like it's
just crazy to say.

Speaker 1 (34:45):
Yeah, agreed. And I think that uh Yu Gio is
more mature though, so I think that's something you got
to consider. They're going for a more mature audience. You have,
like the Shadow Realm and stuff like that, Like it
gets pretty pretty dark in a way that Pokemon won't.
So they're kind of hard to compare because they're different demographics.

Speaker 2 (35:04):
Well, for sure, it's definitely a younger demographic for Pokemon.
They tried to like kit it down for you. You We're like,
we're going to send them to the Shadow Realm, when
like in the manga, it's actually like you die if
you lose the duel, Yeah, which is crazy for game.

Speaker 1 (35:18):
No, it's funny. I watched some of that stuff and
it's just like there was actual saws that will cut
off your legs if you lose a certain amount of
life points. And and in the Four Kids Four Kids dubbed,
they kind of had like I don't know, like it
was like light light discs, which I don't know, Like
they said like you'd sent it a shadow realm if
like they touched you or something.

Speaker 2 (35:40):
I've pulled up with a gun. And then the Four
Kids that he just pointed his finger. I need a
water so badly one second.

Speaker 1 (35:48):
So I go for it. Oh man, Yeah, I really
enjoyed even the hole, which we'll get to when Briggs
comes back. But let me refresh myself on some of
these episodes. We had the Flute Cup, which was cool.
That's actually the highest rated one here on IMDb at

(36:09):
seven point nine, almost at eight. And I think what
people loved about it is not only like I mentioned,
Go had to go back to not being good at everything,
but Ash got a chance to shine and talk about
the Flute Cup of breaks.

Speaker 2 (36:26):
Oh I love the Flute Cup.

Speaker 1 (36:27):
Manah oh, that's the best rated episode of the ones
we watched so far. And yeah, I think part of
it is we got to see Ash shine at what
he's good at m M. And I, like I said,
I appreciate that reality reality check for Go because he
was just breezing through his everything he did and it
was nice to see, Okay, yeah, you know, you can't

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just be amazing at everything as soon as you try.
Ash has so much experience and it really showed.

Speaker 2 (36:55):
And the fact that they let Ash have that experience
and win the Flute Cup and actually like show off
his skills, and the fact that he's been a trainer
for a decent amount of time or at least a
decent amount of battle. I don't know how time works
in this series, but like I really appreciate that because,
like we said, in other seasons, it feels like he's
like restarting every season, and this one they clearly have

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everything prior being canon, including his skills and Pikachu's skills,
and some of the fights themselves. It felt like that
you were watching like a Pokemon battle from like the game.
But then they would like do these dynamic moves every
now and then with like you said, Pikachu using the
electric web, Yeah, speed up its movement off of like
the ceiling coming down with a spinning iron tail, like

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it was so good.

Speaker 1 (37:39):
Yeah, you need that to make the children's show is
so good. Yeah, you need that to make the show
interesting because obviously, like the games are great for what
they are, and it's different experience playing it, but you
can't just have like, okay, your turn, flamethrower, your turn. Well,
it needs to be more dynamic. It's an actual fight.
So I like that the anime did at Justice.

Speaker 2 (38:02):
Now we get to see mister mime pop off.

Speaker 1 (38:06):
Was that his mom's mind?

Speaker 2 (38:08):
I think so?

Speaker 1 (38:08):
Yes, yeah, I assume so he's the main mind that
we associate with stuff, and he was, Uh, his weird
looks are so weird though, like facial expressions.

Speaker 2 (38:18):
I was laughing so hard. I thought it was so funny,
but he was popping the hell off.

Speaker 1 (38:21):
Oh he was amazing. And part of that I think
is Ash being a great trainer and giving him good advice.
But otherwise he's he's still skilled. He's still skilled Pokemon.

Speaker 2 (38:32):
I feel like he's like the family Pokemon. Mister Mime.

Speaker 1 (38:35):
Man, if they had a book where it's like a
companion book to this season and it says what level
the Pokemon are during what fights, I would be all
over that. I'm so curious, like what level mister Mime
is right now? What level Pikachu is?

Speaker 2 (38:52):
That?

Speaker 1 (38:53):
Yeah, interesting stuff, Okay.

Speaker 2 (38:57):
And then after the Flute Cup, which I I do
like the fact that it's like Go had a little
bit of a reality check and he thought it was
just about like a strong Pokemon will win, so catching
strong Pokemon is what you got to do. Meanwhile, it's
like Pikachu and mister Mime probably aren't the most intimidating
when other people are pulling out like I don't remember
what they pulled out, but like let's say like a

(39:17):
Garret Oaks or something.

Speaker 1 (39:19):
Like, Yeah, Ida Mightyana was was one of them, Mariana,
which is I don't think considered like a great Pokemon,
but it's definitely a sort of an intimidating Pokemon. It
has like the intimate intimidated power where it's like weakens
the opponent's attack level, like.

Speaker 2 (39:35):
From Gohld's perspective, like, how is Myightiana gonna lose to
mister mime But mister Mime with both like his experience.

Speaker 1 (39:42):
Ye strategy. Yeah. The only thing I will say is
Mightyana did not fight mister Mime. I think because mister
mind was like I'm out for this one.

Speaker 2 (39:52):
No, mister mime us reflection against like the big sumo guy.

Speaker 1 (39:56):
Yeah, so that's that's not my Deana. That's uh, what's
what's his name?

Speaker 2 (40:01):
Oh, Marianna is like the hyena Pokemon.

Speaker 1 (40:03):
Yeah, exactly the other guy. Man, I totally know it
if I heard it, but now I'm for now I'm forgetting.
But yeah, I know what you mean. The fighting Pokemon
yet chat come in here, the big or something.

Speaker 2 (40:14):
Yeah yeah even that, And and that guy's even more intimidating.
He's a gigantic sumo dude.

Speaker 1 (40:22):
It's funny that they made even the opponent like kind
of easy to laugh at because he's like trying to
throw out that water, but he's like doing it from
his Pokemon and he leans, already leads, already falls in
or he falls. Yeah, they didn't have to make him
uh cool or untouchable to make him a strong trainer,
which was which was a nice touch, funny.

Speaker 2 (40:43):
Touch exactly exactly.

Speaker 1 (40:44):
But yeah, that mastermind might have been in trouble because
my Deanna used crunch, which is a dark move which
is super effective against psychic. So honestly, it's probably good
that he decided not to fight. It made Ash look
better because if if they did fight, my Deianna had
a way better chance of winning then than if when

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it fought Pikachu for example. M m.

Speaker 2 (41:07):
And we get to see Pikachu in action.

Speaker 1 (41:09):
Right of course we need that, Yeah, we needed.

Speaker 2 (41:11):
That because that's after the actual Pokemon Yeah, okay, so
after the Flu Cup we have the Sinno Iceberg Race.

Speaker 1 (41:20):
Hmmmm. Another interesting aspect to the Pokemon world where it's like, okay,
now we're not we're not focusing on strength, We're focusing
on speed, and a pip Up can be faster than
its final evolution and Pelia and Polion or something like that.
So yeah, that was that was interesting. Not my favorite episode,

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but it had some funny moments, especially at the end,
like the gag of uh. First, pip Up gets jealous
of the toad Pokemon, the toad fighting pokemon Gunk crow Gunk,
and then all of a sudden at the end, like
a side uk appears. It's like, wow, you're super helpful
and fast, thank you, and then the other two are like, ah, heartbroken,

(42:03):
we finally came this.

Speaker 2 (42:05):
Yeah, it was actually really comedic. It was really funny,
like watching this girl drop her glasses in the water.
Pip Up gets it, and then they're like, oh, wow,
you're so amazing something helpful, thank you, and they become
like friends and there's this like bond and then crow
Gunk does the same thing. And then after all this
jealousy between crow Gunk and pip Up, it happens again
and Sidewalk appears and I was just laughing so hard.

Speaker 1 (42:25):
Man. She's so lucky at finding fast Pokemon because literally,
like every Pokemon she finds and it's always because she
drops her glasses. It's like an ongoing thing. And then
Ash and Go are like, no way you drop your
glasses sarcastically, but yeah, every time they're super fast Pokemon
that end up winning in the competition or tying in
the competition. So yeah, she's definitely lucky in that sense.

(42:47):
Hell yeah, I wonder if you could make money off
of that too, you know, off yeah Pokemon, your Pokemon places.

Speaker 2 (42:53):
Yeah, I mean in the game if you if you
defeat another trainer, they give you their lunch money, so exactly.
So it's probably the same thing with you. There's got
to be some type of a reward for these races.

Speaker 1 (43:04):
Another thing I appreciate about Pokemon, like it's always realistic too,
Like a school kid will give you less money than like,
I don't know, someone an adult with a better job,
for example, exactly.

Speaker 2 (43:17):
So it's also it's it's so funny that so Ash
catch him is his name in the English dub, but
in the sub he's Yeah.

Speaker 1 (43:25):
That's why I think that the creator of bitcoin is
a fan of Pokemon because his name is Toshi. Is
it not Komodo or something like that, like the the
fake name of the person created bitcoin. So yeah, I
feel like he was just a fan of Pokemon. He's like, hey, man,

(43:45):
Ash created bitcoin. That's the way I look at at least.

Speaker 2 (43:52):
The next thing that happens is Ho Ho a throwback
to Ash's first episode when he's leaving whatever the Joto
region is that his first agent.

Speaker 1 (44:04):
No no conto, no canto region, conto canto the way
you want.

Speaker 2 (44:09):
To get when. I'm happy that they showed it. I
thought for a second they weren't going to bring it up. Yeah,
when when Ashes leaving Palettetown and starting his journey and
was like attacked by a bunch of Pokemon, he swears
he thought he saw Ho Ho flying away, and I'm like,
they better bring it up, And they brought it up, and.

Speaker 1 (44:28):
Yeah, And another thing I appreciate is they redid it
because in the first one it was like all in gold,
if you remember, it was like bad quality all in gold,
and they probably didn't know at that time what hole
would actually look like, what its official colors would be,
and everything. So they they brought it back, they reanimated it,

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and you actually saw ho in it's full glory. And
in the next upcoming in the next upcoming set that's
going to be a combination of Team Rocket, it's also
going to have I have a Holo in it, and
the trainers like looking up and the trainer is the
actual trainer you played as Ethan in the second generation games,
and he's looking up at the whole like shouting back

(45:11):
to Ash seeing it in the beginning, I really need
that card. But it it made me think of how
epic Ho is and how much I enjoyed this episode.

Speaker 2 (45:21):
I love that the grandfather finally got to see Ho
Ho after all this time. So it had to be
when there was a rainbow and it was raining at
the top of the tower with like the the little
not whatever with the feather and stuff like that, and
the kids didn't get to see it, only the grandfather
who spent his entire life trying to find them.

Speaker 1 (45:40):
Hey, they have time to see it, bro, they have time.

Speaker 2 (45:43):
I really enjoyed it. I thought it was wholesome, and
I just loved the Pokemon world.

Speaker 1 (45:47):
I love it. I agree, And I like the fact
that he didn't tell them he saw it because he
probably first of all, probably would have felt bad like them,
be like, no fair, we didn't see it. But also
he did didn't need to. He didn't need to like
rub it in their faces. He was just happy with
you know that one eighty he's gone through and he

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opened up his heart again to see the beauty of
the world and like whole and his pessimism sort of
reflected his entire like depressing worldview and how he didn't
think magical things existed and stuff like that. And then
in the end, it's nice how Ash helped redeem him
and saved his life in a sense.

Speaker 2 (46:30):
Yep, what's next? Wait? Did did Ash end up catching
a dragon kite?

Speaker 1 (46:37):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (46:38):
Yes, he's building a lineup. I think you're gonna build
an insane lineup he is.

Speaker 1 (46:42):
I mean already, And how sick is it He didn't
start with a cat orpy bro. He started with a dragonite.
So again, like you said, we're not going back to
the beginning straight from the bat. His first pokemon he
caught here ends up being a dragon Night, which is
considered one of the best pokemon. Yeah, like you can
get right. It's considered a pseudo legendary and it explains

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it in this that it's very rare for people to
have sightings of it. And then obviously super.

Speaker 2 (47:11):
To cut you off there super quick in regards to
the category thing, there was no reason for him to
catch some of those early points like what was doing
because he already has them. No, I guess he doesn't
actually have it because Catebory ended up turning into a
butter free and then the butter free was like he
let free because it was in love.

Speaker 1 (47:28):
Yeah. I get the reason, but I just appreciate that.
For example, he didn't catch the wheedle or whatever because
he probably didn't have a wheedl mm hmm. It's just
not his goal.

Speaker 2 (47:40):
Yeah, he's already caught a bunch of Pokemon. He's not
trying to catch them all. I guess he's just trying
to become a Pokemon master and whatever that means.

Speaker 1 (47:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (47:49):
I will say though, it was cool that Go caught
Acategory first the same way Ash caught Acadgory first, and.

Speaker 1 (47:55):
Ash could look and be like, oh yeah, that brings
me back.

Speaker 2 (47:59):
And in Ash catching a dragon kite, they had a
bond prior to it evolving into a dragon knite, exactly
what they called a dragonaire.

Speaker 1 (48:07):
It's a dragonaire. It couldn't fly, so he helped it
fly by making Pikachu use like electric web and showing
it how to bounce off of it. In order to
help help facilitate learning dragon dance, which in turn strengthens
it and lets it then fly. And we're learning a

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lot about Pokemon here, and one of my favorite aspects
to it, it's like, why does a dragonaire look so
different from a dragon kite? Why did it evolve legs
and hands? And it's and it's a speculation, but I
like it. Dragon kites are known to rescue people, and
what what dragonaire was trying to rescue ash its skin

(48:50):
just ash would just slip off its skin, so it evolved.
And then they come to the conclusion that it's not proven,
but it's likely that it evolved so it could say
people with its hands because it couldn't as a dragon air,
which was such such a cool thing. And I love
how we're still learning stuff about the Pokemon world so
many years later.

Speaker 2 (49:09):
Yeah, especially if like this is like I mean, it
is canon, but like if the majority of dragon Knights
are on this one island, right, that's how I think,
And this and this island is hidden because of whatever
the circumstances.

Speaker 1 (49:22):
They had good reasoning there too, but go.

Speaker 2 (49:24):
On, yes, and so that's why they're always going to
be saving people because people are constantly going to be
caught in that storm that protects this island. So if
they wanted to, like in their upbringing, in their evolution,
they want to save these people, it makes sense for
them to have arms based on their location and what
keeps on happening. Yeah, and which I think is great.
And they also brought up go Ahead's right.

Speaker 1 (49:46):
No, I was gonna say. A nice touch is that
they made it sort of like a Bermuda triangle where
you don't have signal there, so it's really well protected.
And I like in the end how they decided to
now publish a paper about it and to just keep that
street to themselves to protect the dragon Knite, right, I agree.

Speaker 2 (50:04):
I agree. Also, there was a theory a while back
that like a dragon Air was supposed to evolve into
Milotic and then maybe they they changed their mind or
something and decided to do Dragon Dragonite. And they even
bring up the Milotic in the in the anime.

Speaker 1 (50:24):
Yeah. The only issue is Melodic is such a likely
different generation.

Speaker 2 (50:29):
Maybe that maybe the author changed their minds and kept
it for later.

Speaker 1 (50:32):
Yeah, maybe Melodic is such a weird like first generation,
like first evolution too. It's like an ugly fish sort
of thing. Yeah, like an ugly brown fish and then
becomes a beautiful, melodic.

Speaker 2 (50:48):
Okay, what happens next?

Speaker 1 (50:50):
I will just add I like the way that when
he caught the Pokemon Dragon Nighte it wasn't even like
he didn't even have to try the dragon kites like, oh,
I want you to catch me, and then he's he's
literally like okay, cool, Like there was no question of
whether the Pokemon would would end up being successful. It
will because the Dragon I wanted to catch him based

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on friendship, So I thought that was cool.

Speaker 2 (51:12):
That's such an ash.

Speaker 1 (51:15):
And then we get the Gangar.

Speaker 2 (51:18):
Yeah, Gangar is cool. I was always a fan of Gangar.

Speaker 1 (51:20):
I'm thinking he's got cash this Gangar, do you think? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (51:25):
I hope so, I.

Speaker 1 (51:26):
Think he's gonna catch it. But it didn't work out
that way, and it was a bit of a yeah again.
I don't know how realistic it is that this little
electric dog thing like sent the sent the Gangar packing,
but it's clear that Gangar is not done, as we

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see him in that eerie scene at the end.

Speaker 2 (51:50):
Also, Ganguar the last cannon of a Pokemon.

Speaker 1 (51:53):
He's amazing in the games.

Speaker 2 (51:54):
In the game, they could do so much damage, but like, literally,
it gets wrecked by everybody and anything, even a fucking
little dog.

Speaker 1 (52:00):
So fair enough, Okay, fair enough. I think Alec Exam
was that kind of situation too. I think a super
strong attack, but then defence you could use.

Speaker 2 (52:10):
Word and fast Gangar like super strong, super fast gets
wrecked so easily.

Speaker 1 (52:16):
Okay, fair enough if you don't, if you.

Speaker 2 (52:19):
Honestly, when I when I used to play with Gangle,
I'm like, if I don't one shot the guy, like
he's probably going down.

Speaker 1 (52:24):
Unfortunate. I didn't get to play Gangar much because, like,
you have the trade to evolve, and that was always
such a headache.

Speaker 2 (52:31):
Yeah, two of my main pokemon that were always in
my lineup. I always had the trade to evolve. I
would run much Champ and Gangar.

Speaker 1 (52:39):
Yeah it's cool if you had the friends that that
had the thing, but as kids, like, yeah, my friends
were playing, but there weren't a lot of people rich
enough to get one of those like trading things.

Speaker 2 (52:53):
Yeah, dude, the Game Boy Advance you had to connected
via wire. Yeah yeah I did that before.

Speaker 1 (52:58):
Yeah, that's that's what I'm thinking of.

Speaker 2 (53:02):
Oh my god, that's what a throwback.

Speaker 1 (53:04):
Yeah, nostalgic bro that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (53:07):
I still have my game Boy Color and my game
Boy Advance.

Speaker 1 (53:10):
Yeah I have. I don't know how well it would work,
but I do have it. I do have it too.

Speaker 2 (53:15):
What was your favorite Pokemon game?

Speaker 1 (53:18):
I gotta say I think it was probably And I'm
not going to go back to the old ones and
how much I enjoyed them at the time, because I'm
just gonna try to say what I think is actually
a better game. And I did like Hard Gold, but

(53:40):
if I go back now try to play those first ones,
it's just so much grinding, and like, you know, I'm
sure I could enjoy it if I had like a
summer off and you know, but now it's I do
like I appreciate that new Pokemon games have that fast pacedness,
because yes, maybe it's not as challenging, but as an adult,

(54:01):
I like to just relax, turn off my brain a
bit and not have to like grind. And yes, maybe
a few battles will be a little more difficult because
I'm not grinding, but then I could use strategy and
stuff to figure out a way to overcome it. I
prefer that then knowing I can't win unless I grind

(54:22):
which I feel like the first few games were kind
of like that, but super nostalgic. I love the vibe
of the games.

Speaker 2 (54:30):
Or maybe you just didn't have the strategy in you
yet you didn't have the experience.

Speaker 1 (54:34):
Perhaps perhaps kidding.

Speaker 2 (54:37):
I was a kid, same dude. I would just level
up my main guy to like the highest level possible
and try to steam roll.

Speaker 1 (54:44):
I tried to do that, and then I'd always I'd
do that because I had Gold and that was the
one I played the most, and I do that with
a type losion. You know that that's in the cool
line at every time. And I had a game that
didn't save, so I'd have to like try to get
as far as possible. It's like yeah, and I tried

(55:05):
to like speed run it, but every time I'd have
trouble at the Ghost the Ghost Leader h I don't
know if it might not be Sabrina might be a
different one. But at the Scary City Eerie City, I
would always have trouble there.

Speaker 2 (55:21):
So I had Pokemon Crystal and I remember having Syndical
as well. Is that the other half of Haark Gold no.

Speaker 1 (55:28):
Uh No Heart Gold and Soul Silver are remakes of
Gold and Silver that came later, like improved graphics, uh,
color design choices and stuff like that.

Speaker 2 (55:41):
Crystal Silver.

Speaker 1 (55:44):
Crystal is is it came out around the same time
Gold and Silver. It's just that like upgrade, you know,
just like there's for diamond and Pearl, there's Platinum, you know, Rugby,
and there's Emerald.

Speaker 2 (55:59):
Yeah, Crystal was my first Pokemon game, and then I
played like fire Red. My favorite was Emerald Emerald.

Speaker 1 (56:07):
Yeah, I didn't play Emerald, but I did. Uh. I
did get the chance to beat what what was the
remake called something Ruby? Right? I played that remake Requasa
Omega Ruby. I don't think I caught Requasa. I don't think.
I don't know if you can in it, but if
you can, I didn't get that far because there's probably

(56:29):
like a special thing. I caught the crowd on, right, but.

Speaker 2 (56:32):
Oh got it, got it? Yeah, so I caught him.
You probably could. If you caught groud on, you probably
could catch for Quasa. It was like a special thing
I remember catching No, dude.

Speaker 1 (56:44):
Let's better shot.

Speaker 2 (56:46):
Okay, I'm gonna I'm gonna mute while you talk about
these last couple episodes.

Speaker 1 (56:50):
Yeah, yeah, I think we pretty much covered most of it,
so we got the gangar right, I do expect to
see more of him, and made it very clear that
he had as we haven't seen the last of him
at the final panel, which was sick by the way.
I love the way they animated that. And then we
already talked about the final episode, which was the Flash
of the Titans, because it was so hype we talked
about it early. It was that great battle between Leon

(57:14):
and Lance. Lance us old school guys will remember, he's
the Dragon Trainer. He was always associated with power and
being super skilled. And then you have Leon, which it
makes sense that a new series will create a new
hero to beat, and he ends up beating him with
the chars Are. Chars Are one of the most iconic Pokemon,
one of the most consistent chase cards, and expensive Pokemon

(57:35):
in the card game as well, so he's just super
popular all around. So it makes sense that we still
get a charz Yard to be fans of, even though
Ash might not be using it in the battle. So
I think that pretty much covers it, unless you want
to add anything else. I love the fact that the
chars Are had a thunder punch, and so even though

(57:55):
you think Garrettos water super frank against Charzard. That move
can strategically flip the switch and actually charge our can
be twice super effective against Gerretto's because of flying type
and water. So yeah, that's pretty much it for me. Briggs.
If you get the chance to unmute, you can give

(58:16):
me your closing thoughts too.

Speaker 2 (58:18):
My closing thoughts while this alarm is is going off,
I just want to say I loved it. I really
enjoyed it. We basically covered everything I love that. We
were able to talk for close to an hour about
these about these Pokemon episodes, and Emerald endgame is the
best Pokemon end game.

Speaker 1 (58:33):
Fair enough, all right, guys, thanks for tuning in. We're
gonna let you guys know in the description of the
podcast what we decide to do next. If it's gonna
be the next twelve episodes, or if it's gonna we're
gonna jump to some point in the future that may
be more action packed. We'll see. But until next time,
see a space Cowboys.