June 11, 2025 • 37 mins
This is a recent episode from The Anime Virgin Podcast Briggs also Hosts. Talking About To Be Hero X and MHA Vigilantes!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
What up everybody? Welcome back to the anime virgin You
Got Me goes and from anime Uproar and my co
host Briggs from Briggs eighty a. What are Briggs yo?
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Good to be here, excited to talk about some anime.
What are you watching today? Goded?
Speaker 1 (00:16):
I like that? Yeah, hero shows. I think that's the
common theme here. So, like we said last episode, we're
going to talk about two My Hero's Vigilantes, which is
a spin off of my Heroes, but a darker one
or at least more mature one, which I enjoy. And
then we have two Be hero X, which takes the
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maturity to an even higher level. So very excited to
talk about these. Do you want to give your initial
thoughts first? Briggs?
Speaker 2 (00:45):
General thoughts. I'm enjoying both of them. I'm a big
fan of MJA Vigilantes, but I will say I think
two Be hero X is spectacular and I am obsessed.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
Yeah, so I pretty much started off with watching my
hero Academia Vigilantes, and in my opinion, and again maybe
this is because my hero Academia has gone on for
a long time, it's like for a younger demographic than me,
but I prefer this my hero Academia personally so far. Obviously,
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I don't know if they'll maintain.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Yes, you prefer Vigilantes to the original? Imha, yes, honestly
for the introduction, I agree.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
Yeah, for the introduction, We'll see what happens. I am
a vision in this case. I do not know what's
going to happen later on, so I'm just speaking off
of what we've seen so far. I find myself enjoying.
I like that it's an older main character. I like
the Easter Eggs where we have Isaaha and stuff, and
the Batman old man guy is just awesome. We had Stain,
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like we'll talk about that. So a lot of really
cool stuff and stuff that I think they don't want
to cover my hero Academia because it's for like a
younger demographic more obviously, so very interesting. And then you're
right to be hero X. The animation, at first, I
was like, well, I enjoy this. You know, it's always
throws me off in the beginning, but you fall into it.
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It's a different animation style, but you fall into it.
And then yeah, the storytelling, the pace, it's crazy. I
don't even know what's happening now in the fifth episode.
I don't know why we jump to a different character.
I guess maybe that'll be like short stories of different characters.
I have no idea what's going on there, but.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
I want to talk about something seems to be interconnected,
like it's obviously the same world, and I have a
feeling it hasn't happened yet from the episodes I've seen.
I've watched six six episode goes in, and watched seven five,
and I will say or no, I like, yeah, you
watch five, I watched six. I think a seven episode
just came out, but we're not fully caught up. But
I do want to say I do think that they're
going to be interconnected. It's in the same world, but
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they're going to somehow interconnect these two stories.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
Still, it is risky. In my opinion, it's good storytelling
so far. I liked each of the stories. I think
the climax for the first one, which was episode four,
was really good. But it's not even if it now
follows this new guy and then it connects later, it's
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still a different format than we're used to, where, you know,
just like a traditional one like Vigilantes, you're following the
same protagonist episode episode and their particular growth. Now, I
said myself, and I don't know if this is true
or not, could not be, but definitely the main character
of the first four episodes has the same hairstyle as
the kid in the in the fifth episode, you know,
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the kid with the sister. I don't know if that's
tied together, but they have the exact same hairstyle.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
So I will say that interesting. Interesting, Yeah, I do
you want to say. I do want to say something
that's something you didn't notice in the ending of the
fourth episode, the crazy ending where Moon gets shot in
the fucking head? Did you know notice who shot the gun?
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Ending of the fourth episode Moon gets shot in the head?
I thought, I think it skipped for me, like before
the complete and then because because you know how it
auto skips sometimes.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
So after the was it after the credits dive? You
know what?
Speaker 1 (04:25):
Auto skipp's like? I literally was seeing them talk on
on the beach, right.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
Oh my god, you didn't see her get killed or shot?
Speaker 1 (04:34):
No, but I do remember in the first episode at
the end, he sees like a body next to him
and it seems like it's her with like a bloody face,
and then we jump to next episode, where she's alive.
So I don't know. I don't know what the fuck's
going on with the show half the time.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Yeah, so go back stepsode four after this and watch
the post credits she gets shot spoilers, I already said it,
but the person that she gets shot by is wearing
the same outfit as the new guy. What what's the
new guy's like fucking superhero name and everyone's trying to
be that superhero My god.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
Soul?
Speaker 2 (05:16):
Okay, so whoever shot Moon at the end of the
fourth episode was wearing an e Soul outfit. So it's
like the lightning dude.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
So it's.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
These two things are directly tied together, and I can't
wait to see what what they decide to do with
the writing and how.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
Can you do it? I'm going back. I'm just gonna
watch quickly the the ending credits.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Yeah, you have to honestly, are you able to do that?
Right now? While okay, I will say with two be
hero X, I agree with goes in a little bit
where sometimes the three D animation it was like, oh
this is catching meal. It's a different I'm not used
to it, right, But I will say the way that
they mix different animation styles together. I am a huge
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fan of especially during the fights, with like the good choreography,
going from three D to two D, from comic book
to CGI. They're all over the place with their styles
and I am a big fan of that. I think
they're doing a good job with the animation department as
well as good storyteller.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
I saw it, and just like you said, shocking, I
will say to people fair warning, the last millisecond of
the last millisecond of the post credits of an episode
can have absolutely insane ramifications, which is not what I'm
used to when I'm watching a show. Yeah, so I
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must say, uh yeah, that's something to keep in mind.
But wow, no, I was hoping they had that freaking
happy ending. Bro. I prefer my ending.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
Yeah, for real, dude, keep that in mind. Chat for
this series because the series is apparently known for their
like twist and turns, and they're like ending on a.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
It's interesting and shocking, which which today is is almost
hard to do, and they do it. So it shows
how much they go, perhaps overboard by old standards. But yeah,
like literally in the first episode, it's insane. I was
describing it to someone. It's just shocking how much happens
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in one episode, Like he goes from being a guy
creating commercials for these heroes to talking shit about the
hero he envies on a billboard, to that hero showing
up and just walking off the building to his death,
and then him becoming the new hero because they need
to replace him. Is just absolutely insane. And way more
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happens in the first episode, including he gets with the
girl he's been fantasizing about the whole his whole life.
It's it's just absolutely crazy.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
And they're living there temporarily living together because he replaces
Nice because Nice killed himself, and then they're like, you
kind of look like him, paint his hair. It was
a wild introduction to a story.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
Yeah, I must say that that it's it's deserves its
high rankings. Like if you go on the two B
hero IMDb, like first episode eight point nine, second nine, third,
eight point five, fourth, nine point six, Right, that's that's
the crazy climax of that mini story, and then nine
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for episode five and nine point one for episode six,
which I have yet to watch, but I'm excited that
it's already high ranked. So yeah, there is a lot
of very highly ranked episodes like, obviously this stuff is new.
Sometimes people get over hyped, but I could tell you that,
for example, my hero Vigilantes is full of sevens for example,
so clearly it's not the norm.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
And I think seven to seven point five is kind
of where Vigilantes belongs. And I'm enjoying it. What are
your introductory thoughts to like the first episode or two
goes in.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
Where even talking about now you know, because we've been
making Okay.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
We did the first episode or two of Switcher.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
Switching back and forth. I like. I like it a lot.
I think the animation is good. Is what I'm used to.
It's not jarring, right, not not that uh to be
hero X is not good animation. It's just takes them
getting used to. But this is your right at home
good uh, high standard anime adapt adaptation, like good animation.
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You have a a guy that's the underdog, which again
I think a lot of us guys that like shon
In like to have those underdog stories.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
And here one second continue goes and I I need
a tissue. I'm still sick, guys, I apologize or super
and sneezing. I'll try to mute myself.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
No worries. So yeah, I really like the fact that
we're dealing with a underdog here. And then I like
the fact that despite not necessarily having the abilities to
become a hero the legal way, he actually still has
that urge and even if it means breaking the rules,
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he's willing to become the crawler and help people and
not just pick up trash, which is what he was doing.
But even when he knows that he probably can't take
on goons that are going after Pop Step, for example,
he's still willing to try. And he'd rather try and
let's say, get killed or get beat up or whatever,
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then leave and not be that hero, even if some
would argue he doesn't have the strength to back it up.
So it's really cool seeing that integrity, seeing that character
as he is right now, and then having the older
Batman like guy to me, that old guy that joins him.
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I'm trying to think of his name. I think it's
like knuckle knuckle Duster, knuckle duster, knuckle duster, Yeah, him
coming in. I think he's like the best character. You know.
You sometimes asked me Briggs, like, who's my favorite character?
For me? One hundred percent knuckle Duster he's absolutely amazing,
And to me, he's like Batman pretty much like that,
that's who he is. He doesn't have superpowers or anything.
Obviously he's not as rich, maybe not as cool, but yeah,
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he's pretty cool. Anyways, he's pretty bad, and it's clear
that he's been it's clear that he's been inspired to
an extent by Batman. Plus you have the fact that
he's also takes law into his own hands, which is
really what Batman is all about as well.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
So no, I think he is like the show. I
think he's carrying the show. I think slowly, as I've
gotten closer to the episode like five and six, Koechi
and the girl Pop or whatever the hell her name is,
I've come to like them a lot more. But for
the first three, maybe even four episodes, knuckle Duster was
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carrying the fucking show, and he did it well, like
I was, like, I was so invested. I loved him
as a character. I'm like single handling. He's my favorite
character in all of MHA already.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
Yeah, who was my favorite character.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
At MH in original MBHA Baku go Kiroshima.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
Oh that's a good question. Yeah, right, like stands out
like that yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
I guess on the side of the good guys, right,
Like obviously I have a big fan of Stain as well,
which we'll talk about later because he's in MHA Vigilantes too,
But knuckle Duster, Oh my goodness gracious seeing him fight
Isawa without and I was like, oh, he must have
an insurance quirk, And like you, he had no quirk
at all. And he's just throwing hands fighting against these
villains on drugs and still holding his own counter punching
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like Miata from I'm Gonna Lose my Mind, I Love
I Love Nothing.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
It was so good. Yeah. And then when he's like
he's talking these are a different level of enemy. He's like,
you think he's finally got to say it's too much.
He needs to like they hate to relax. He's like,
I was right on the edge, Like this is next level.
I could barely keep up. That's what I've been waiting for.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
Yeah, he was so pumped, you, so excited and against
that that last guy. Literally, a single punch from that
guy would have killed him. Literally, it would have just
it would have ended him. And he's like, yeah, but
the harder you punch, the more you throw your all
into it. If you slip by it and tap him
on the joe, it's enough on their jaws, enough to
take them out.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
Yeah, it is so good.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
He's so high.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
He's by far, like I said, like my favorite character,
and I think they make a good dynamic. And this
does take place if you paid attention before my hero
Academia timeline. And even though it's like a newer show,
it feels nostalgic and like even his rooftop apartment reminds
me of Oni Zukai. Remember when he has like that
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rooftop thing and them just hanging out at his place.
It gives me nostalgic vibes for anime that I watch
like that are probably made in the nineties and stuff.
So yeah, I don't know if that's on purpose, but
I enjoyed that aspect to it. You probably didn't see
did we see cell phones? And shit, I don't even know.
I don't think so, right, Like ology wasn't as as
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prevalent as it is, Like in my I.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
Think like flip phones. They probably like flip phones. Yeah,
so I want to say something that's really it's really
a random stupid line, but I just find it so funny.
I so he's obsessed with this his outfit in his hood, right,
And there was a moment where these like thugs were
beating up this girl and kind of sexually about like secually.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. They would never do that,
never do in MH.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
And it was like they were about to whatever, like
sexually harassed and assaut this girl. And he had a
reaction but like not a big reaction, and then he
was gonna leave potentially, and the guy was like, yeah,
and your hood is hood is lame, like he respected.
He's like, my hood is lame. My hood is not lame.
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There's no way flame. And then he gets ready to fight,
like it wasn't for the girl that he cared about.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
No, I think it.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
I think it was obviously was.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
Yeah, the way it just seemed funny, the way they
set it up, but yeah, that is fight. It's like, yeah,
leave with your stupid hood's that's the last straw, bro.
I was gonna let you get away with it, but no, no.
And I was saying that, and I don't know how
much you heard because because of your nose situation, but
I was saying that I like that about him, that
even though he knows he's no match for these guys,
especially in the beginning and a physical fight, he still
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can't not step in. And I like that. That's that's
the theme common within my hero Academia as well, which
is like Deck who wants to be a hero even
though he doesn't have the capabilities, and then he inherits
one for all and then that gets the ball rolling.
But he earned it.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
I liked that by moving his body move without thinking.
His body moved despite not having the the ability and
power to probably win the fight. And that's what like
all might saw on a good hero. So I enjoy
seeing those parallels. And I like to even just seeing
the references to the other series with or not even references.
It's the same world. Yeah, yeah, yeah, little things. I
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enjoy it.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
But I will say I kind of like that he
did think about it and he still decides to do
the right thing. I think that there's a distinction there,
and I think it's cool. It's like he's not a
natural born hero, but he's committed to becoming one, and
you know, he'll put everything on the line for it.
And it's funny, like there's just comedic moments that I
enjoy where he's a hero nice guy or something they're
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calling him, which is funny at the parallel with nice
and nice guy. And literally he's just like picking up
trash and stuff like that, just wearing a superhero costive
to pick up trash.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
I also enjoy how his quirk is pretty mid but
it has potential, right, and.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
It improves over time.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
Yeah, it improves over time as you get more used
to it and have better control with it. I like
quirks like that, and I like underdog stories, and I
feel like this is gonna be one. And then also
knuckle Duster has no powers and he just throws hand.
That's amazing.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
Yeah, it definitely started out as a underdog story no
matter where they go from here. But I feel like
it's a good universal principle in life that once you
start working towards something, you'll get help from unexpected in
unexpected ways on the way that It's like, I don't
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know how it's gonna work out now, but if I
start down that path, things will pop up that helped
me out. And you really see that here because at first, yeah,
you think he has a terrible quirk that would never
let him be a hero. But then later when you
get Eda's brother joining the mix Ingenium or whatever his
name is, he says, oh, actually, like, I'm jealous of
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your quirk. If you do this and this, it'll improve.
And then all of a sudden, yeah, you get like
a top hero being jealous of his quirk and what
he could potentially do with it. So clearly you have
him and his powers improving. Obviously he's training with knuckle
Duster as well. But yeah, obviously he had to take
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that leap, and despite thinking he couldn't, had to try
to be a hero. And then all of a sudden
you have stuff falling into place.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
Speaking of falling into place, the boys in MHA Vigilantes
always are able to find trash to fall into. It's
always trash on the floor just in.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
Case another me, Yeah, I totally I totally noticed that too.
I'm like I had that thought. I'm like, how is
there so much trash piles in uh in this Tokyo?
Speaker 2 (18:29):
Tokyo is clean? No?
Speaker 1 (18:31):
No, Like, yeah, I have no idea because because population wise,
Tokyo should definitely have trash piles. But with the Japanese
work ethic, yeah, I would be surprised to see as
many as we see in the show.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
It actually takes place in New York, guys.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
That would make a lot more sense. Honestly.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
Anyway, I'm down to jump back to two B hero X.
Let's talk about the villains now, or even the power system.
Oh my god. The power system being based off of
like popular larity and how much people care and are
talking about you. It makes sense for a hero and
then villains being fueled by fear of the public, like
the public's kind of thoughts and presence affecting both the
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heroes and villain's power. I think is just amazing trust sense.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
But it's interesting right because it doesn't really go off
of real world. It's fictional, but it's interesting idea definitely
that I don't think I've seen before, although it feels
familiar like I would have, but yeah, I don't think
i've seen that before. Yeah, you get your power been
from people's trust and believe in you.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
Mm hmm. And I think it makes sense for for
heroes and villains to have that. Obviously, like superpowers in
general aren't a real thing, so how they get the
superpowers is up to the author. And I think this
is a cool way of doing it. There have been times,
like in One punch Man, where it feels like the
world can and like what you want to come and
obsess over. You could kind of transform into like a
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crab monster or a hero godlike hero like Sai Tama
or whatever. I feel like the world affects the heroes
and the villains within that world. There was another example
someone gave me that I thought was pretty good, but
I can't remember. Now there's a couple with like similar things.
But I actually think this does it better. Okay, it's
like fully explained.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
Yeah, I don't think. I don't think I see it
as much in One punch Man like this kind of thing.
But maybe I'm just not perfectly understanding you. But obviously
the sitema is way stronger than people's belief in him.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
Yeah, I know, I'm not talking about belief. I'm just
taking like talking about how a world can shape someone's powers,
like the like the power system is like fueled by
the world.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
But what does that mean, Like for example One punch Man,
what do you mean.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
In One punch Man a crab a guy became a
crab monster because he ate too much crab and was
obsessed in crab a guy became a motorcycle villain or
a car villain because you really.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
Possible in that world compared to our world. Yeah, okay,
I see.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
Right, Like they become villains based off like the power
system is rooted in the world building in a way
not in the world, like within the world or whatever. Yeah,
I'm not explaining this perfect perfectly.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
Okay, I'm getting a sense.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
Is like the world and the population fuel what the
heroes become like the way you view a hero. They
not even only get power, but they become more like
what you see them as, like a nice guy, a
perfect guy, or like someone that could hold up the
city is really like good. I don't know what was
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that strong guy's.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
Firm stand or something like that or something like that.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
Is the understanding hero because of how he saved the
little girl.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
So ridiculous, like the fact that he can't they literally
put this stuff on his legs. It's a metaphor, obviously,
but like the fact that we're supposed to imagine that
just because he stood firm, they made this his identity
around this. So now he has to sleep on a
bed upright tied to it because he can't take this
thing off. Like, come on, that was was.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
It was more than that. That's what I think you're missing.
I think what happened is he saved this girl by
standing firm. People trusted him and his ability to be
firm and reliable. They marketed him to be so firm
that his body literally became firm, Like he couldn't sit
down the ship. It's not that he was wearing something.
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He physically couldn't have.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
Those things that came off, right, But you're saying like
even without that thing, or or even think he couldn't.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
I think even without any if he was butt naked,
he was a firm man.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
In my nightmare man like, because.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
The world and people's opinions of you shaped who you
are as a hero, it's my understanding.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
Yeah, okay, because that would suck. It would be way
better to be known as like sleeping hero or something.
But yeah, so with nice, Yeah, I think his life
would have been much easier in that sense. But even
more so, I really like the fact and we see
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that here, just like we saw it in Vigilantes in
a different way. Someone steps up even when they don't
have something to back it up, and things fall into place.
So he didn't care. He was going to stand up
for the woman he loves and he wasn't even hurt.
I was a crazy thing, but anyways, he's going to
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stand up for her to protect her, and he doesn't
have any powers. Right, people figure out that's not nice,
and he's fighting. He's getting his ass beat the guys,
even saying what can you a normal person do when
even even heroes can't touch me? And yet people respected
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his efforts so much they started cheering him on and
it became a self fulfilling prophecy and just by starting
it and getting the ball rolling and doing the right actions,
it ended up working out. So that was really cool
part of the last episode, and I really I think
that was the climax of the series so far from me,
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like how everything just fell into place and he became
a hero not by imitating nice but by being himself
and people grabbed on to that authenticity.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
There were so many good things with this series, but
I do agree the climax with our main guy what's
his name mean?
Speaker 1 (24:38):
Linlingling?
Speaker 2 (24:41):
The climax with lin Ling and it felt like a
season finale, but it was the end of episode four
like it felt like a season finale.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
You're saying it's so fast paced.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
Man, his original marketing idea that anyone can be a
hero x or whatever was like played in the background
while he cast aside his nice persona and became himself
a hero himself. Like it was just so good. The
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music was playing, the animation was good. I'm a big
fan of the villain as well, the way he would
like research people to like find try to cancel them
and then change the public opinion on him by digging
up like their past and thus making them weaker mid fight.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
Mm hmm. Yeah, and it Yeah, it's interesting, and it
makes sense in this world because it wouldn't necessarily be
that scary of a villain. But in this world we're
figuring out the truth, usually not for a main character,
but usually figure out the truth would destroy people's trust
and then thus their powers. Here, obviously, by the truth
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being revealed and his character being revealed, it actually encouraged people,
so it was it turned out to be tonight instead
of a good thing for the villain. But yeah, I know,
I mean, I'm such a fan of like good morals
and integrity and principles and seeing it so rewarded is sick.
I really, I really don't know how I feel about
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watching Moon be killed in that millisecond at the end
of that preview or after credits, because man, it was
such a nice, nice little happy bow Bow Tide, you know,
like finish, and now I'm just like, fuck, bro, that
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ruined everything in terms of that happy ending that we're getting.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
Dude, like right now, this isn't as close to it,
Like I wasn't even like super super in love with
like the episode that like covered like the ever Standings
firm Man part. But other than maybe there was nothing
even wrong with that per se. I just think like
it's as close to a I've watched introduction wise in
a long time, Like I am obsessed. It's like I
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can I can't even rate it less than a nine
point five. I love everything utilizing the world building, for
the characters and the moments and the and the actual
like like reveals. It's just so good. It's so good.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
Yeah, I will say anyone that has like ADHD and
can't focus like this is fast enough for you, you know, like, yeah,
this is actually mind boggling how fast paced this show is.
In the first four episodes, like what a roller coaster
ride they managed to do in that amount of time. Yeah,
kudos to them for that. I agree, it's it's a
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very good show. There are some things that if you
overthink it, like it's like, how can how can a
CEO of or a boss at a commercial company just
suddenly become a villain with superpowers? Like they kind of
go into it. There's this kind of terrorists associated fear
enhandswer that's like creating villains and stuff. But yeah, once
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you accept the world and how it works, it's very
interesting stuff.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
Yeah, you have to you have to fully immerse yourself,
and I feel like I got very immersed then I
didn't even question it. I'm just like yeah, I and
then people fear him more.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
Yeah, you you liked the switch and animation styles. For me,
I don't know if I loved it personally, because it's
like I'm wondering why, like why why switch animation styles?
I don't I don't really get it personally. I'm not
saying it it ruined my enjoyment or anything, but I'm
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just wondering why. I don't really get it.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
Why animation Where I liked it better and there was
times where I liked it worse. It depended on the
fight and the style they went to. They went to
so many different styles, or at least a good handful
of it, because I'm used to it if it's.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
Like a backstory or something. But if it's in the
present day fight and all of a sudden they switch styles,
that to me can be jarring. It's like why, But
I'm used to watching stuff, and like in the backstory
to do a different style to kind of make it
even more different than the present day, that completely makes
sense to me. But yeah, that's just something that stood
out to me.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
I also just want to I agree, maybe that might
pull you out and make you less immersed in the
fight potentially. Yeah, I don't think it really affected me much,
but I think that's a good point. I do also
want to say it in regards to the climax that
you were talking about with like with lin Ling kind
of becoming himself and it was having the opposite effect
of what happened to the other characters that the villain fought.
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Because the other characters the villain fought, he revealed their past,
They lost trust, value, got weaker. He even tried to
set up lin Lang earlier on, but he was telling
the truth and wasn't lying about Moon, and like did
say that he that he loved her and stuff like that,
which was was like kind of like a good setup
for what ends up happening later on. Same thing happens
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where he becomes himself, gains people's trust by being a
genuine person, putting in and risking his own life even
though he's weak. People started to believe in him and
trust him and want him to win. And he had
a couple of lines like he was trying to SACRIFICI
fight himself for Moon and unfortunately and unfortunately, and then
he fortunately ended up winning the fight in a really
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cool way. Unfortunately Moon wasn't there, And yeah, that was a.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
Crazy to that. Again, this is so full of those twists.
That was one of the big twists to me as well.
But I am going to have to finish sooner than
later with the episode just because we started later than usual.
But I do want to say, like with episode five,
I liked the fact, like how again Hero stepping up
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without the powers. Then that guy started cheering him on,
and so at the end of the day we did
get that like kind of the belief of that one kid,
and then people watching by helped him actually win, which
was again sick. We gotta saw that similar idea. The
only thing that really pissed me off was how difficult
it was to watch him with the girl he liked.
And it's like, yeah, oh my god, why it's so painful.
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It's so painful.
Speaker 2 (31:12):
But I really struggle, struggle to like characters like that,
even though he was likable.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
No again, and I agree, it bothers me so much.
And and then like every time that guy shows up,
he's like, Okay, I'm out, I'm out of here. I'm
not gonna compete. I'm just gonna even though we have
no reason to believe that that she's going out with
him or anything, He's just like, Oh, it's cool guy. Yeah,
I'm god.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
There's even more twists and turns and episode six, so
get excited for that.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
I'm excited.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
We know that these two stories are going to converge
at some point, which I'm also excited for. We could
go back to MH. Vigilanti.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
Yeah, let's let's wrap that up quickly. One of the
one of the big things to talk about, I think
is staying just finish it up with with uh what
do they call him Sten Hall, and the whole idea
of what is a vigilante, what's the right one, what's
the wrong one? Who decides pretty much with Stenhowe, who
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becomes Stayin. As we find out later on, he also
feels like he's doing what these other guys are doing
and he actually looks up to knuckle Duster, but he's
cool with killing the villains, right, So I think that
was at some point they had to address that, because, yeah,
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when you take the law into your own hands, at
what point does it become you took it too far?
And I think Stain as a character and I guess
we could say Stenhouse and Stain goes after heroes, but
Stenhowe here shows that it's going overboard and not necessarily.
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He almost just wants to kill people and the villain,
labeling them as a villain comes like comes wherever he wants.
He wants to create villains and then kill him, you know,
like he's like, yeah, give them drugs and then I'll
kill him. It's it's kind of it's almost like he
just wants to kill and he's not too concerned if
the people are innocent or not.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
Yeah, you could see that he's trying to still forming
his opinions as well, because at first he was just
going after villains and then slowly he's like heroes that
are half committed, I I'll kill them too. Yeah, he
aded to where he was in MHA.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
He had a cool Igris like armor at the at
the beginning, which was cool, and then obviously we saw
that blood power, which we'd recognize as my hero Academia fans,
and uh yeah. Eventually. The crazy thing is he could
have killed knuckle Duster if he wanted to, because he
paralyzed him with his blood at the end, but he
ended up leaving because he's still figuring out who he is,
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and he probably does feel like knuckle Duster is a
worthy hero, not one of the fake ones that he
wants to go after.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
Sure, did you know it was stain when you saw him?
Or like, how when did you realize the blood?
Speaker 1 (34:03):
The blood thing? And then I felt like I started
here remembering internet stuff of him appearing in Vigilantes, and
then I put two and two together, But until the
blood reveal, I wasn't sure.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
Yeah for me, I'm like, oh, they're going with like
a stained type character like I did. Oh, it's act
and then he like plaralyzed someone like oh fuck, it's
actually stained.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
Yeah exactly. So no, I think I think that was
a cool thing. And we'll see because knuckle Duster is
funny because he's a hypocrite, but in the best way
where he's like, yeah, man, I don't know, I don't
I don't trust guys just take the line to their
own hands. Like you know, it's like this dude's literally
doing that. But somehow he figures it out. And even
if he can be tough on people and he could
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like beat them up and really beat them up if
they deserve it, uh, he's not going for the kill,
whereas this guy is, right, So that's that's a big difference.
Speaker 2 (34:56):
Oh for sure. Yeah, sometimes you know, he crosses the
line maybe or like it's funny he's like, oh, he'll
punch someone in an as quest.
Speaker 1 (35:02):
But it's not like a permanent line, you know what
I mean. Yeah, he crosses the line, but it's like
it's in a gray area. Whereas obviously if you kill
people and you're rearing to like you're ready to go
and kill people, it's a different kind of you can't
go back after that sort of thing.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
Exactly, but technically what our main cast is doing is
probably not just frowned upon but illegal. So I would
like to see at some point where they maybe have
issues with heroes or with them.
Speaker 1 (35:28):
Well they kind of story, but yeah, yeah, they could
be expand on that too. And yeah, and I'm enjoying
the little pop Step crawler romance developing and and the
fact that it was a nice reveal that he actually
saved her long ago with no powers, remember, and she
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still has that hoodie that's the only one he's missing
from his collection. So that's a nice little romantic relationship
going on.
Speaker 2 (35:54):
And just sort of that romantic relationship and doing it
early on and giving us a back story early on
is making me more attached and root for these characters more,
because in the first two episodes, I was just like,
knuckle Duster is cool. These other guys are like, all right, whatever,
And now I'm like loving the cast overall, which I
feel like I kind of struggled with mha in comparison.
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I liked a couple of characters, but it was such
a big high school class that I wasn't in love with. Yeah,
this show have like three characters more.
Speaker 1 (36:22):
My vibe I feel like But obviously in terms of
if you love superpowers and seeing a lot more, I
think the other one just you know, classrooms of people
with super hot powers. It's very exciting, and like you know,
that's why we did all those videos breaking down their quirks,
because that in itself is exciting. But just the vibe
of the story, I really like this one.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
I agree. I will say sometimes with MHA, maybe I
give it too much hate because I think after seven
episodes of MHA or six episodes MHA, I was loving
it as well. So this is still very early to tell.
I'm excited for more. Even Queen Bee. Her quirk reveal
was cool, her villain review was cool. It has a
lot of things in a cool way, and I'm definitely
excited for more.
Speaker 1 (37:05):
Yeah, all right, guys, do we know what we're gonna
watch next time? Decide that later.
Speaker 2 (37:10):
I have an idea, but it's only gonna be one show.
Do you want to do two shows? Again?
Speaker 1 (37:17):
I don't know. That depends how many episodes. If it's
six six, sure, let's do a well.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
For now, guys, for sure. Next week we're covering old
country Bumpkin to master Swordsman.
Speaker 1 (37:29):
That's one right, that's what country.
Speaker 2 (37:32):
Okay, all right if my guilty pleasure of the of
the year. So it's not even good.
Speaker 1 (37:36):
I really good, all right guys, And until next time,
see uh space cowboys bang
What up everybody? Welcome back to the anime virgin You
Got Me goes and from anime Uproar and my co
host Briggs from Briggs eighty a. What are Briggs yo?
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Good to be here, excited to talk about some anime.
What are you watching today? Goded?
Speaker 1 (00:16):
I like that? Yeah, hero shows. I think that's the
common theme here. So, like we said last episode, we're
going to talk about two My Hero's Vigilantes, which is
a spin off of my Heroes, but a darker one
or at least more mature one, which I enjoy. And
then we have two Be hero X, which takes the
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maturity to an even higher level. So very excited to
talk about these. Do you want to give your initial
thoughts first? Briggs?
Speaker 2 (00:45):
General thoughts. I'm enjoying both of them. I'm a big
fan of MJA Vigilantes, but I will say I think
two Be hero X is spectacular and I am obsessed.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
Yeah, so I pretty much started off with watching my
hero Academia Vigilantes, and in my opinion, and again maybe
this is because my hero Academia has gone on for
a long time, it's like for a younger demographic than me,
but I prefer this my hero Academia personally so far. Obviously,
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I don't know if they'll maintain.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Yes, you prefer Vigilantes to the original? Imha, yes, honestly
for the introduction, I agree.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
Yeah, for the introduction, We'll see what happens. I am
a vision in this case. I do not know what's
going to happen later on, so I'm just speaking off
of what we've seen so far. I find myself enjoying.
I like that it's an older main character. I like
the Easter Eggs where we have Isaaha and stuff, and
the Batman old man guy is just awesome. We had Stain,
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like we'll talk about that. So a lot of really
cool stuff and stuff that I think they don't want
to cover my hero Academia because it's for like a
younger demographic more obviously, so very interesting. And then you're
right to be hero X. The animation, at first, I
was like, well, I enjoy this. You know, it's always
throws me off in the beginning, but you fall into it.
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It's a different animation style, but you fall into it.
And then yeah, the storytelling, the pace, it's crazy. I
don't even know what's happening now in the fifth episode.
I don't know why we jump to a different character.
I guess maybe that'll be like short stories of different characters.
I have no idea what's going on there, but.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
I want to talk about something seems to be interconnected,
like it's obviously the same world, and I have a
feeling it hasn't happened yet from the episodes I've seen.
I've watched six six episode goes in, and watched seven five,
and I will say or no, I like, yeah, you
watch five, I watched six. I think a seven episode
just came out, but we're not fully caught up. But
I do want to say I do think that they're
going to be interconnected. It's in the same world, but
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they're going to somehow interconnect these two stories.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
Still, it is risky. In my opinion, it's good storytelling
so far. I liked each of the stories. I think
the climax for the first one, which was episode four,
was really good. But it's not even if it now
follows this new guy and then it connects later, it's
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still a different format than we're used to, where, you know,
just like a traditional one like Vigilantes, you're following the
same protagonist episode episode and their particular growth. Now, I
said myself, and I don't know if this is true
or not, could not be, but definitely the main character
of the first four episodes has the same hairstyle as
the kid in the in the fifth episode, you know,
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the kid with the sister. I don't know if that's
tied together, but they have the exact same hairstyle.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
So I will say that interesting. Interesting, Yeah, I do
you want to say. I do want to say something
that's something you didn't notice in the ending of the
fourth episode, the crazy ending where Moon gets shot in
the fucking head? Did you know notice who shot the gun?
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Ending of the fourth episode Moon gets shot in the head?
I thought, I think it skipped for me, like before
the complete and then because because you know how it
auto skips sometimes.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
So after the was it after the credits dive? You
know what?
Speaker 1 (04:25):
Auto skipp's like? I literally was seeing them talk on
on the beach, right.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
Oh my god, you didn't see her get killed or shot?
Speaker 1 (04:34):
No, but I do remember in the first episode at
the end, he sees like a body next to him
and it seems like it's her with like a bloody face,
and then we jump to next episode, where she's alive.
So I don't know. I don't know what the fuck's
going on with the show half the time.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Yeah, so go back stepsode four after this and watch
the post credits she gets shot spoilers, I already said it,
but the person that she gets shot by is wearing
the same outfit as the new guy. What what's the
new guy's like fucking superhero name and everyone's trying to
be that superhero My god.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
Soul?
Speaker 2 (05:16):
Okay, so whoever shot Moon at the end of the
fourth episode was wearing an e Soul outfit. So it's
like the lightning dude.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
So it's.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
These two things are directly tied together, and I can't
wait to see what what they decide to do with
the writing and how.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
Can you do it? I'm going back. I'm just gonna
watch quickly the the ending credits.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Yeah, you have to honestly, are you able to do that?
Right now? While okay, I will say with two be
hero X, I agree with goes in a little bit
where sometimes the three D animation it was like, oh
this is catching meal. It's a different I'm not used
to it, right, But I will say the way that
they mix different animation styles together. I am a huge
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fan of especially during the fights, with like the good choreography,
going from three D to two D, from comic book
to CGI. They're all over the place with their styles
and I am a big fan of that. I think
they're doing a good job with the animation department as
well as good storyteller.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
I saw it, and just like you said, shocking, I
will say to people fair warning, the last millisecond of
the last millisecond of the post credits of an episode
can have absolutely insane ramifications, which is not what I'm
used to when I'm watching a show. Yeah, so I
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must say, uh yeah, that's something to keep in mind.
But wow, no, I was hoping they had that freaking
happy ending. Bro. I prefer my ending.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
Yeah, for real, dude, keep that in mind. Chat for
this series because the series is apparently known for their
like twist and turns, and they're like ending on a.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
It's interesting and shocking, which which today is is almost
hard to do, and they do it. So it shows
how much they go, perhaps overboard by old standards. But yeah,
like literally in the first episode, it's insane. I was
describing it to someone. It's just shocking how much happens
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in one episode, Like he goes from being a guy
creating commercials for these heroes to talking shit about the
hero he envies on a billboard, to that hero showing
up and just walking off the building to his death,
and then him becoming the new hero because they need
to replace him. Is just absolutely insane. And way more
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happens in the first episode, including he gets with the
girl he's been fantasizing about the whole his whole life.
It's it's just absolutely crazy.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
And they're living there temporarily living together because he replaces
Nice because Nice killed himself, and then they're like, you
kind of look like him, paint his hair. It was
a wild introduction to a story.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
Yeah, I must say that that it's it's deserves its
high rankings. Like if you go on the two B
hero IMDb, like first episode eight point nine, second nine, third,
eight point five, fourth, nine point six, Right, that's that's
the crazy climax of that mini story, and then nine
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for episode five and nine point one for episode six,
which I have yet to watch, but I'm excited that
it's already high ranked. So yeah, there is a lot
of very highly ranked episodes like, obviously this stuff is new.
Sometimes people get over hyped, but I could tell you that,
for example, my hero Vigilantes is full of sevens for example,
so clearly it's not the norm.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
And I think seven to seven point five is kind
of where Vigilantes belongs. And I'm enjoying it. What are
your introductory thoughts to like the first episode or two
goes in.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
Where even talking about now you know, because we've been
making Okay.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
We did the first episode or two of Switcher.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
Switching back and forth. I like. I like it a lot.
I think the animation is good. Is what I'm used to.
It's not jarring, right, not not that uh to be
hero X is not good animation. It's just takes them
getting used to. But this is your right at home
good uh, high standard anime adapt adaptation, like good animation.
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You have a a guy that's the underdog, which again
I think a lot of us guys that like shon
In like to have those underdog stories.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
And here one second continue goes and I I need
a tissue. I'm still sick, guys, I apologize or super
and sneezing. I'll try to mute myself.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
No worries. So yeah, I really like the fact that
we're dealing with a underdog here. And then I like
the fact that despite not necessarily having the abilities to
become a hero the legal way, he actually still has
that urge and even if it means breaking the rules,
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he's willing to become the crawler and help people and
not just pick up trash, which is what he was doing.
But even when he knows that he probably can't take
on goons that are going after Pop Step, for example,
he's still willing to try. And he'd rather try and
let's say, get killed or get beat up or whatever,
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then leave and not be that hero, even if some
would argue he doesn't have the strength to back it up.
So it's really cool seeing that integrity, seeing that character
as he is right now, and then having the older
Batman like guy to me, that old guy that joins him.
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I'm trying to think of his name. I think it's
like knuckle knuckle Duster, knuckle duster, knuckle duster, Yeah, him
coming in. I think he's like the best character. You know.
You sometimes asked me Briggs, like, who's my favorite character?
For me? One hundred percent knuckle Duster he's absolutely amazing,
And to me, he's like Batman pretty much like that,
that's who he is. He doesn't have superpowers or anything.
Obviously he's not as rich, maybe not as cool, but yeah,
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he's pretty cool. Anyways, he's pretty bad, and it's clear
that he's been it's clear that he's been inspired to
an extent by Batman. Plus you have the fact that
he's also takes law into his own hands, which is
really what Batman is all about as well.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
So no, I think he is like the show. I
think he's carrying the show. I think slowly, as I've
gotten closer to the episode like five and six, Koechi
and the girl Pop or whatever the hell her name is,
I've come to like them a lot more. But for
the first three, maybe even four episodes, knuckle Duster was
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carrying the fucking show, and he did it well, like
I was, like, I was so invested. I loved him
as a character. I'm like single handling. He's my favorite
character in all of MHA already.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
Yeah, who was my favorite character.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
At MH in original MBHA Baku go Kiroshima.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
Oh that's a good question. Yeah, right, like stands out
like that yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
I guess on the side of the good guys, right,
Like obviously I have a big fan of Stain as well,
which we'll talk about later because he's in MHA Vigilantes too,
But knuckle Duster, Oh my goodness gracious seeing him fight
Isawa without and I was like, oh, he must have
an insurance quirk, And like you, he had no quirk
at all. And he's just throwing hands fighting against these
villains on drugs and still holding his own counter punching
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like Miata from I'm Gonna Lose my Mind, I Love
I Love Nothing.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
It was so good. Yeah. And then when he's like
he's talking these are a different level of enemy. He's like,
you think he's finally got to say it's too much.
He needs to like they hate to relax. He's like,
I was right on the edge, Like this is next level.
I could barely keep up. That's what I've been waiting for.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
Yeah, he was so pumped, you, so excited and against
that that last guy. Literally, a single punch from that
guy would have killed him. Literally, it would have just
it would have ended him. And he's like, yeah, but
the harder you punch, the more you throw your all
into it. If you slip by it and tap him
on the joe, it's enough on their jaws, enough to
take them out.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
Yeah, it is so good.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
He's so high.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
He's by far, like I said, like my favorite character,
and I think they make a good dynamic. And this
does take place if you paid attention before my hero
Academia timeline. And even though it's like a newer show,
it feels nostalgic and like even his rooftop apartment reminds
me of Oni Zukai. Remember when he has like that
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rooftop thing and them just hanging out at his place.
It gives me nostalgic vibes for anime that I watch
like that are probably made in the nineties and stuff.
So yeah, I don't know if that's on purpose, but
I enjoyed that aspect to it. You probably didn't see
did we see cell phones? And shit, I don't even know.
I don't think so, right, Like ology wasn't as as
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prevalent as it is, Like in my I.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
Think like flip phones. They probably like flip phones. Yeah,
so I want to say something that's really it's really
a random stupid line, but I just find it so funny.
I so he's obsessed with this his outfit in his hood, right,
And there was a moment where these like thugs were
beating up this girl and kind of sexually about like secually.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. They would never do that,
never do in MH.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
And it was like they were about to whatever, like
sexually harassed and assaut this girl. And he had a
reaction but like not a big reaction, and then he
was gonna leave potentially, and the guy was like, yeah,
and your hood is hood is lame, like he respected.
He's like, my hood is lame. My hood is not lame.
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There's no way flame. And then he gets ready to fight,
like it wasn't for the girl that he cared about.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
No, I think it.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
I think it was obviously was.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
Yeah, the way it just seemed funny, the way they
set it up, but yeah, that is fight. It's like, yeah,
leave with your stupid hood's that's the last straw, bro.
I was gonna let you get away with it, but no, no.
And I was saying that, and I don't know how
much you heard because because of your nose situation, but
I was saying that I like that about him, that
even though he knows he's no match for these guys,
especially in the beginning and a physical fight, he still
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can't not step in. And I like that. That's that's
the theme common within my hero Academia as well, which
is like Deck who wants to be a hero even
though he doesn't have the capabilities, and then he inherits
one for all and then that gets the ball rolling.
But he earned it.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
I liked that by moving his body move without thinking.
His body moved despite not having the the ability and
power to probably win the fight. And that's what like
all might saw on a good hero. So I enjoy
seeing those parallels. And I like to even just seeing
the references to the other series with or not even references.
It's the same world. Yeah, yeah, yeah, little things. I
(15:56):
enjoy it.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
But I will say I kind of like that he
did think about it and he still decides to do
the right thing. I think that there's a distinction there,
and I think it's cool. It's like he's not a
natural born hero, but he's committed to becoming one, and
you know, he'll put everything on the line for it.
And it's funny, like there's just comedic moments that I
enjoy where he's a hero nice guy or something they're
(16:19):
calling him, which is funny at the parallel with nice
and nice guy. And literally he's just like picking up
trash and stuff like that, just wearing a superhero costive
to pick up trash.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
I also enjoy how his quirk is pretty mid but
it has potential, right, and.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
It improves over time.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
Yeah, it improves over time as you get more used
to it and have better control with it. I like
quirks like that, and I like underdog stories, and I
feel like this is gonna be one. And then also
knuckle Duster has no powers and he just throws hand.
That's amazing.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
Yeah, it definitely started out as a underdog story no
matter where they go from here. But I feel like
it's a good universal principle in life that once you
start working towards something, you'll get help from unexpected in
unexpected ways on the way that It's like, I don't
(17:16):
know how it's gonna work out now, but if I
start down that path, things will pop up that helped
me out. And you really see that here because at first, yeah,
you think he has a terrible quirk that would never
let him be a hero. But then later when you
get Eda's brother joining the mix Ingenium or whatever his
name is, he says, oh, actually, like, I'm jealous of
(17:40):
your quirk. If you do this and this, it'll improve.
And then all of a sudden, yeah, you get like
a top hero being jealous of his quirk and what
he could potentially do with it. So clearly you have
him and his powers improving. Obviously he's training with knuckle
Duster as well. But yeah, obviously he had to take
(18:03):
that leap, and despite thinking he couldn't, had to try
to be a hero. And then all of a sudden
you have stuff falling into place.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
Speaking of falling into place, the boys in MHA Vigilantes
always are able to find trash to fall into. It's
always trash on the floor just in.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
Case another me, Yeah, I totally I totally noticed that too.
I'm like I had that thought. I'm like, how is
there so much trash piles in uh in this Tokyo?
Speaker 2 (18:29):
Tokyo is clean? No?
Speaker 1 (18:31):
No, Like, yeah, I have no idea because because population wise,
Tokyo should definitely have trash piles. But with the Japanese
work ethic, yeah, I would be surprised to see as
many as we see in the show.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
It actually takes place in New York, guys.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
That would make a lot more sense. Honestly.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
Anyway, I'm down to jump back to two B hero X.
Let's talk about the villains now, or even the power system.
Oh my god. The power system being based off of
like popular larity and how much people care and are
talking about you. It makes sense for a hero and
then villains being fueled by fear of the public, like
the public's kind of thoughts and presence affecting both the
(19:12):
heroes and villain's power. I think is just amazing trust sense.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
But it's interesting right because it doesn't really go off
of real world. It's fictional, but it's interesting idea definitely
that I don't think I've seen before, although it feels
familiar like I would have, but yeah, I don't think
i've seen that before. Yeah, you get your power been
from people's trust and believe in you.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
Mm hmm. And I think it makes sense for for
heroes and villains to have that. Obviously, like superpowers in
general aren't a real thing, so how they get the
superpowers is up to the author. And I think this
is a cool way of doing it. There have been times,
like in One punch Man, where it feels like the
world can and like what you want to come and
obsess over. You could kind of transform into like a
(20:05):
crab monster or a hero godlike hero like Sai Tama
or whatever. I feel like the world affects the heroes
and the villains within that world. There was another example
someone gave me that I thought was pretty good, but
I can't remember. Now there's a couple with like similar things.
But I actually think this does it better. Okay, it's
like fully explained.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
Yeah, I don't think. I don't think I see it
as much in One punch Man like this kind of thing.
But maybe I'm just not perfectly understanding you. But obviously
the sitema is way stronger than people's belief in him.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
Yeah, I know, I'm not talking about belief. I'm just
taking like talking about how a world can shape someone's powers,
like the like the power system is like fueled by
the world.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
But what does that mean, Like for example One punch Man,
what do you mean.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
In One punch Man a crab a guy became a
crab monster because he ate too much crab and was
obsessed in crab a guy became a motorcycle villain or
a car villain because you really.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
Possible in that world compared to our world. Yeah, okay,
I see.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
Right, Like they become villains based off like the power
system is rooted in the world building in a way
not in the world, like within the world or whatever. Yeah,
I'm not explaining this perfect perfectly.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
Okay, I'm getting a sense.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
Is like the world and the population fuel what the
heroes become like the way you view a hero. They
not even only get power, but they become more like
what you see them as, like a nice guy, a
perfect guy, or like someone that could hold up the
city is really like good. I don't know what was
(21:35):
that strong guy's.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
Firm stand or something like that or something like that.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
Is the understanding hero because of how he saved the
little girl.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
So ridiculous, like the fact that he can't they literally
put this stuff on his legs. It's a metaphor, obviously,
but like the fact that we're supposed to imagine that
just because he stood firm, they made this his identity
around this. So now he has to sleep on a
bed upright tied to it because he can't take this
thing off. Like, come on, that was was.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
It was more than that. That's what I think you're missing.
I think what happened is he saved this girl by
standing firm. People trusted him and his ability to be
firm and reliable. They marketed him to be so firm
that his body literally became firm, Like he couldn't sit
down the ship. It's not that he was wearing something.
(22:29):
He physically couldn't have.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
Those things that came off, right, But you're saying like
even without that thing, or or even think he couldn't.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
I think even without any if he was butt naked,
he was a firm man.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
In my nightmare man like, because.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
The world and people's opinions of you shaped who you
are as a hero, it's my understanding.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
Yeah, okay, because that would suck. It would be way
better to be known as like sleeping hero or something.
But yeah, so with nice, Yeah, I think his life
would have been much easier in that sense. But even
more so, I really like the fact and we see
(23:15):
that here, just like we saw it in Vigilantes in
a different way. Someone steps up even when they don't
have something to back it up, and things fall into place.
So he didn't care. He was going to stand up
for the woman he loves and he wasn't even hurt.
I was a crazy thing, but anyways, he's going to
(23:36):
stand up for her to protect her, and he doesn't
have any powers. Right, people figure out that's not nice,
and he's fighting. He's getting his ass beat the guys,
even saying what can you a normal person do when
even even heroes can't touch me? And yet people respected
(23:57):
his efforts so much they started cheering him on and
it became a self fulfilling prophecy and just by starting
it and getting the ball rolling and doing the right actions,
it ended up working out. So that was really cool
part of the last episode, and I really I think
that was the climax of the series so far from me,
(24:18):
like how everything just fell into place and he became
a hero not by imitating nice but by being himself
and people grabbed on to that authenticity.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
There were so many good things with this series, but
I do agree the climax with our main guy what's
his name mean?
Speaker 1 (24:38):
Linlingling?
Speaker 2 (24:41):
The climax with lin Ling and it felt like a
season finale, but it was the end of episode four
like it felt like a season finale.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
You're saying it's so fast paced.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
Man, his original marketing idea that anyone can be a
hero x or whatever was like played in the background
while he cast aside his nice persona and became himself
a hero himself. Like it was just so good. The
(25:14):
music was playing, the animation was good. I'm a big
fan of the villain as well, the way he would
like research people to like find try to cancel them
and then change the public opinion on him by digging
up like their past and thus making them weaker mid fight.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
Mm hmm. Yeah, and it Yeah, it's interesting, and it
makes sense in this world because it wouldn't necessarily be
that scary of a villain. But in this world we're
figuring out the truth, usually not for a main character,
but usually figure out the truth would destroy people's trust
and then thus their powers. Here, obviously, by the truth
(25:54):
being revealed and his character being revealed, it actually encouraged people,
so it was it turned out to be tonight instead
of a good thing for the villain. But yeah, I know,
I mean, I'm such a fan of like good morals
and integrity and principles and seeing it so rewarded is sick.
I really, I really don't know how I feel about
(26:17):
watching Moon be killed in that millisecond at the end
of that preview or after credits, because man, it was
such a nice, nice little happy bow Bow Tide, you know,
like finish, and now I'm just like, fuck, bro, that
(26:39):
ruined everything in terms of that happy ending that we're getting.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
Dude, like right now, this isn't as close to it,
Like I wasn't even like super super in love with
like the episode that like covered like the ever Standings
firm Man part. But other than maybe there was nothing
even wrong with that per se. I just think like
it's as close to a I've watched introduction wise in
a long time, Like I am obsessed. It's like I
(27:04):
can I can't even rate it less than a nine
point five. I love everything utilizing the world building, for
the characters and the moments and the and the actual
like like reveals. It's just so good. It's so good.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
Yeah, I will say anyone that has like ADHD and
can't focus like this is fast enough for you, you know, like, yeah,
this is actually mind boggling how fast paced this show is.
In the first four episodes, like what a roller coaster
ride they managed to do in that amount of time. Yeah,
kudos to them for that. I agree, it's it's a
(27:38):
very good show. There are some things that if you
overthink it, like it's like, how can how can a
CEO of or a boss at a commercial company just
suddenly become a villain with superpowers? Like they kind of
go into it. There's this kind of terrorists associated fear
enhandswer that's like creating villains and stuff. But yeah, once
(28:03):
you accept the world and how it works, it's very
interesting stuff.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
Yeah, you have to you have to fully immerse yourself,
and I feel like I got very immersed then I
didn't even question it. I'm just like yeah, I and
then people fear him more.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
Yeah, you you liked the switch and animation styles. For me,
I don't know if I loved it personally, because it's
like I'm wondering why, like why why switch animation styles?
I don't I don't really get it personally. I'm not
saying it it ruined my enjoyment or anything, but I'm
(28:40):
just wondering why. I don't really get it.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
Why animation Where I liked it better and there was
times where I liked it worse. It depended on the
fight and the style they went to. They went to
so many different styles, or at least a good handful
of it, because I'm used to it if it's.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
Like a backstory or something. But if it's in the
present day fight and all of a sudden they switch styles,
that to me can be jarring. It's like why, But
I'm used to watching stuff, and like in the backstory
to do a different style to kind of make it
even more different than the present day, that completely makes
sense to me. But yeah, that's just something that stood
out to me.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
I also just want to I agree, maybe that might
pull you out and make you less immersed in the
fight potentially. Yeah, I don't think it really affected me much,
but I think that's a good point. I do also
want to say it in regards to the climax that
you were talking about with like with lin Ling kind
of becoming himself and it was having the opposite effect
of what happened to the other characters that the villain fought.
(29:38):
Because the other characters the villain fought, he revealed their past,
They lost trust, value, got weaker. He even tried to
set up lin Lang earlier on, but he was telling
the truth and wasn't lying about Moon, and like did
say that he that he loved her and stuff like that,
which was was like kind of like a good setup
for what ends up happening later on. Same thing happens
(29:58):
where he becomes himself, gains people's trust by being a
genuine person, putting in and risking his own life even
though he's weak. People started to believe in him and
trust him and want him to win. And he had
a couple of lines like he was trying to SACRIFICI
fight himself for Moon and unfortunately and unfortunately, and then
he fortunately ended up winning the fight in a really
(30:20):
cool way. Unfortunately Moon wasn't there, And yeah, that was a.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
Crazy to that. Again, this is so full of those twists.
That was one of the big twists to me as well.
But I am going to have to finish sooner than
later with the episode just because we started later than usual.
But I do want to say, like with episode five,
I liked the fact, like how again Hero stepping up
(30:47):
without the powers. Then that guy started cheering him on,
and so at the end of the day we did
get that like kind of the belief of that one kid,
and then people watching by helped him actually win, which
was again sick. We gotta saw that similar idea. The
only thing that really pissed me off was how difficult
it was to watch him with the girl he liked.
And it's like, yeah, oh my god, why it's so painful.
(31:10):
It's so painful.
Speaker 2 (31:12):
But I really struggle, struggle to like characters like that,
even though he was likable.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
No again, and I agree, it bothers me so much.
And and then like every time that guy shows up,
he's like, Okay, I'm out, I'm out of here. I'm
not gonna compete. I'm just gonna even though we have
no reason to believe that that she's going out with
him or anything, He's just like, Oh, it's cool guy. Yeah,
I'm god.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
There's even more twists and turns and episode six, so
get excited for that.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
I'm excited.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
We know that these two stories are going to converge
at some point, which I'm also excited for. We could
go back to MH. Vigilanti.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
Yeah, let's let's wrap that up quickly. One of the
one of the big things to talk about, I think
is staying just finish it up with with uh what
do they call him Sten Hall, and the whole idea
of what is a vigilante, what's the right one, what's
the wrong one? Who decides pretty much with Stenhowe, who
(32:11):
becomes Stayin. As we find out later on, he also
feels like he's doing what these other guys are doing
and he actually looks up to knuckle Duster, but he's
cool with killing the villains, right, So I think that
was at some point they had to address that, because, yeah,
(32:31):
when you take the law into your own hands, at
what point does it become you took it too far?
And I think Stain as a character and I guess
we could say Stenhouse and Stain goes after heroes, but
Stenhowe here shows that it's going overboard and not necessarily.
(32:51):
He almost just wants to kill people and the villain,
labeling them as a villain comes like comes wherever he wants.
He wants to create villains and then kill him, you know,
like he's like, yeah, give them drugs and then I'll
kill him. It's it's kind of it's almost like he
just wants to kill and he's not too concerned if
the people are innocent or not.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
Yeah, you could see that he's trying to still forming
his opinions as well, because at first he was just
going after villains and then slowly he's like heroes that
are half committed, I I'll kill them too. Yeah, he
aded to where he was in MHA.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
He had a cool Igris like armor at the at
the beginning, which was cool, and then obviously we saw
that blood power, which we'd recognize as my hero Academia fans,
and uh yeah. Eventually. The crazy thing is he could
have killed knuckle Duster if he wanted to, because he
paralyzed him with his blood at the end, but he
ended up leaving because he's still figuring out who he is,
(33:50):
and he probably does feel like knuckle Duster is a
worthy hero, not one of the fake ones that he
wants to go after.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
Sure, did you know it was stain when you saw him?
Or like, how when did you realize the blood?
Speaker 1 (34:03):
The blood thing? And then I felt like I started
here remembering internet stuff of him appearing in Vigilantes, and
then I put two and two together, But until the
blood reveal, I wasn't sure.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
Yeah for me, I'm like, oh, they're going with like
a stained type character like I did. Oh, it's act
and then he like plaralyzed someone like oh fuck, it's
actually stained.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
Yeah exactly. So no, I think I think that was
a cool thing. And we'll see because knuckle Duster is
funny because he's a hypocrite, but in the best way
where he's like, yeah, man, I don't know, I don't
I don't trust guys just take the line to their
own hands. Like you know, it's like this dude's literally
doing that. But somehow he figures it out. And even
if he can be tough on people and he could
(34:45):
like beat them up and really beat them up if
they deserve it, uh, he's not going for the kill,
whereas this guy is, right, So that's that's a big difference.
Speaker 2 (34:56):
Oh for sure. Yeah, sometimes you know, he crosses the
line maybe or like it's funny he's like, oh, he'll
punch someone in an as quest.
Speaker 1 (35:02):
But it's not like a permanent line, you know what
I mean. Yeah, he crosses the line, but it's like
it's in a gray area. Whereas obviously if you kill
people and you're rearing to like you're ready to go
and kill people, it's a different kind of you can't
go back after that sort of thing.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
Exactly, but technically what our main cast is doing is
probably not just frowned upon but illegal. So I would
like to see at some point where they maybe have
issues with heroes or with them.
Speaker 1 (35:28):
Well they kind of story, but yeah, yeah, they could
be expand on that too. And yeah, and I'm enjoying
the little pop Step crawler romance developing and and the
fact that it was a nice reveal that he actually
saved her long ago with no powers, remember, and she
(35:48):
still has that hoodie that's the only one he's missing
from his collection. So that's a nice little romantic relationship
going on.
Speaker 2 (35:54):
And just sort of that romantic relationship and doing it
early on and giving us a back story early on
is making me more attached and root for these characters more,
because in the first two episodes, I was just like,
knuckle Duster is cool. These other guys are like, all right, whatever,
And now I'm like loving the cast overall, which I
feel like I kind of struggled with mha in comparison.
(36:15):
I liked a couple of characters, but it was such
a big high school class that I wasn't in love with. Yeah,
this show have like three characters more.
Speaker 1 (36:22):
My vibe I feel like But obviously in terms of
if you love superpowers and seeing a lot more, I
think the other one just you know, classrooms of people
with super hot powers. It's very exciting, and like you know,
that's why we did all those videos breaking down their quirks,
because that in itself is exciting. But just the vibe
of the story, I really like this one.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
I agree. I will say sometimes with MHA, maybe I
give it too much hate because I think after seven
episodes of MHA or six episodes MHA, I was loving
it as well. So this is still very early to tell.
I'm excited for more. Even Queen Bee. Her quirk reveal
was cool, her villain review was cool. It has a
lot of things in a cool way, and I'm definitely
excited for more.
Speaker 1 (37:05):
Yeah, all right, guys, do we know what we're gonna
watch next time? Decide that later.
Speaker 2 (37:10):
I have an idea, but it's only gonna be one show.
Do you want to do two shows? Again?
Speaker 1 (37:17):
I don't know. That depends how many episodes. If it's
six six, sure, let's do a well.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
For now, guys, for sure. Next week we're covering old
country Bumpkin to master Swordsman.
Speaker 1 (37:29):
That's one right, that's what country.
Speaker 2 (37:32):
Okay, all right if my guilty pleasure of the of
the year. So it's not even good.
Speaker 1 (37:36):
I really good, all right guys, And until next time,
see uh space cowboys bang
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