The year of Kendrick

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
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Speaker 2 (00:08):
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Speaker 1 (00:10):
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Speaker 2 (00:11):
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shit to my son and I don't likethat.
Huh, huh.

Speaker 1 (00:23):
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you mean I'll take that.

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Speaker 2 (02:06):
Let's just real deal with a kill, let's please real
deal with a kill.

Speaker 1 (02:12):
we're here, let's just cut the shit and just get
to these two, the two maintopics.
Kendrick and you know what's itwas to lie Before we even get
into it, though it's like weback in May, in a sense.

Speaker 2 (02:28):
Right.

Speaker 1 (02:29):
Because we're.

Speaker 2 (02:31):
Hold on, hold on hold on hey.

Speaker 1 (02:40):
Come on y'all.
Oh the hell dog, what the hellit's my hair.

Speaker 2 (02:50):
Hell, no, hell, no.
See, that's why they call youAfrican Broody Scratches, hell
no.

Speaker 3 (02:59):
What the fuck.

Speaker 2 (03:02):
Hell no.

Speaker 1 (03:07):
Oh, I ain't see nothing.
Why I have to slap Eazy justshowed us his doogie streets,
Bro.
This nigga slapped his own butt.

Speaker 2 (03:19):
Pause.

Speaker 1 (03:24):
Bro, Pause.
I lost my train of thought.

Speaker 2 (03:28):
Yeah, you wilding, bro, you're wilding.

Speaker 3 (03:32):
Bro, what the fuck.

Speaker 2 (03:39):
Just All right, all right, alright, alright, welcome
to Real Deal with Akil.
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We got Mason Young Mason thesniper, young Mason the Sniper.

(04:25):
Oh man, we've had an amazingWeek, a very amazing two weeks.

Speaker 3 (04:40):
Might I say.

Speaker 2 (04:44):
First I want to say Fuck y'all in the comments.

Speaker 1 (04:47):
They got, I ain't gonna lie, they got on you On
that sim with With Donald Trump.

Speaker 2 (04:51):
That's cool.
Everybody has their own.
Everybody has their ownviewpoint.

Speaker 1 (04:59):
That's why you really can't talk Politics with
everybody.

Speaker 2 (05:02):
I mean to be honest with you.
You're not supposed to.

Speaker 1 (05:05):
Nah.

Speaker 2 (05:06):
So you know, it is what it is.

Speaker 1 (05:10):
Yeah, I mean, you didn't say nothing, that was you
know.

Speaker 2 (05:14):
I mean it's my opinion.

Speaker 1 (05:15):
Yeah, at the end of the day Like it's two things I
always stay away from withpeople that at least don't have
the mental or the maturity toeven talk about it.
It's religion and politics.
Those are two like straight up,but I mean it wasn't nothing
crazy.

Speaker 2 (05:32):
I mean it was but it wasn't Like.
It wasn't like oh, the up warLike oh shit, you know A kid
calling me crazy, nah, it's justthe fact that you know Nah
nigga if you calling me crazy,it's's cold, nah, it's just, you
know, saying something.
Saying hey.

Speaker 1 (05:46):
But at the end of the day, hey, we live in a country
when this shit, this shit, if wedon't assimilate- you might be
right.

Speaker 2 (05:52):
How I look at it is what Donald Trump Eat.
Don't make me shit.

Speaker 1 (05:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (05:59):
So at the end of the day, we all gotta still Get out
there and go get it.
So we all gotta still Get outthere and go get it.

Speaker 1 (06:05):
So yeah, it is what it is, yeah.

Speaker 2 (06:06):
But nah.

Speaker 1 (06:06):
Let's just cut through this shit, man.
I mean, we, we literally areRecording this podcast Based on
what happened these past twoweeks.
It's only.
It's only two topics.
Yeah, we got some shitHappening in our city, we'll get
into later, but at the sametime, like the main, yeah, genex
.

Speaker 2 (06:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (06:23):
G-Nex yeah Album review.

Speaker 2 (06:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (06:25):
And then Drake, but the two topics leads into
subtopics that can expand.

Speaker 2 (06:32):
I mean, where do you want to start?
Do you want to start with theG-Nex review?

Speaker 1 (06:35):
So, I do want to review that Because that shit is
important To review that album.

Speaker 4 (06:41):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (06:41):
Because now it's great to review the album a week
later versus first listen.
Right, because we, we listen toit.
I've listened to it at leastshit, 25, 20 times I can't see
on repeat like, like.
You know what I mean like it'snot a.

(07:03):
It's not even a number at thispoint because it's not a lot of
albums I want to listen to forthis month and the rest of the
year.
Yeah, and he dropped itsurprisingly, so definitely
nothing else to listen to.
The only time I listened tosomething outside of that album

(07:24):
was during Thanksgiving, familyaround and a Friendsgiving.

Speaker 2 (07:29):
I ain't going to lie to you, other than that I've
listened to podcasts and I'velistened to Leon Thomas, which,
honestly, that's a conversationthat needs to be had as well.
I feel like Leon Thomas Mighthave dropped the album of the
year, R&B wise.

Speaker 1 (07:48):
Yeah, yeah, and we'll get into that, cause we, you
know, we do the wrap up.
Yeah, shit, we ain't do a wrapup Last year, but we'll get into
that.
Yeah, we'll do the wrap up Atthe end of the year.
But going back to G and Nick'sDog, this is dog finally, this
is the fine, this is our, thisis our review.
We list to it too many times tonot give like a thorough like

(08:09):
review on on that album I mean,where do we start?

Speaker 2 (08:18):
I mean we can do this track by track, how we want to
go about it.
Because my thing is, first ofall oh my god, this dude is
amazing.
Because also, one thing thatwe're not taking in
consideration, and I feel likeeverybody's not taking in
consideration, is the fact thateverything that the media and

(08:41):
these academic kids or drakeheads say that Kendrick didn't
do he did it and did it withease, and you can tell, you can
tell just by the albums that weexpect from Kendrick is very
deep, detailed puzzles.

(09:03):
That's the beauty of it.
This was straight to the point.
Yeah, there was no for me.
There was no hold on.
Let me dissect this.
That in third.
It was straight up.
Here you go and it was westcoast, yeah, yeah, I mean like I
, I loved because I'm, it's usand music we talk about this all

(09:27):
the time the fact that Music,for some reason, doesn't have A
cultural sound Anymore.
As far as, alright, a westcoast, a west coast artist,
doesn't sound like A west coastartist.
A southern artist Doesn't soundlike A southern artist.

Speaker 1 (09:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (09:44):
East coast Artist doesn't sound like a southern
artist.
Yeah, east coast, uh uh artistdoesn't sound like a east coast
artist.
But to be honest with you, evenwhen it comes to the east coast
, everybody from the east coastsounds like they're from chicago
yeah you know atlanta isatlanta, even when it come down
to houston.
A lot of them try to sound likethey from Atlanta, but this was

(10:09):
a West Coast album.
Yeah, you know what I mean.
Like this is what you expectwhen you want to hear that type
of culture.

Speaker 1 (10:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (10:20):
And I think he did that to the T Not even just from
an LA standpoint, but from abass standpoint as well, because
I was just hearing some amazingshit.
So I appreciate that from aKendrick album.
I appreciate that from Kendrickbecause it felt like he stood
up for his side.

Speaker 1 (10:40):
So, no, everything you said Iagree with.
So to add on to it, it's moreso for me.
Let me ask this questionbecause we grew up in a Dat Piff
era.
Right, we don't considerSextant 80 as the first album.

(11:01):
We always consider Good Kid,but technically, quote unquote I
as the first album.

Speaker 2 (11:04):
We always consider Good Kid, but technically quote
unquote I look at Section 80 asan album.

Speaker 1 (11:09):
Okay, so let's do that If we're taking Section 80
as the first album and we gofrom Section 80 to Good Kid, to
Untitled or Pimp Butterfly.
However, you want to put itDamn Miss Morale and G&X.
What I love about it?
About his catalog every albumis literally different.

Speaker 4 (11:34):
I agree, every album.

Speaker 1 (11:35):
Like G&X is for the West Coast, like we talked about
.

Speaker 4 (11:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (11:40):
This is his Astroworld.
I have Astroworld to us forTravis Scott.
Was that masterpiece?

Speaker 2 (11:46):
I like how you tried.
You took my point.

Speaker 1 (11:48):
But no, it's your point.
No for sure Like it's yourpoint, but it's.
It's.
That's what G and X you knowwhat I'm saying For the West
Coast, but for me, this is whatI like About the album the most.
For one, of course, 12 songs Ican.
That's why it's so easy toreplay.
Yeah, but another thing, for me, the number one thing, is he

(12:10):
put people on.

Speaker 4 (12:12):
That's underground la that's underground west coast,
I agree like that to me.

Speaker 1 (12:17):
Was that the main thing?
For me?
It's like, dude, you putting onpeople that make I thought the
song with doughty six when Ifirst heard I thought that was
yG.
Yeah, you know what I'm sayingyou were saying that in the car,
I was like nah nigga, this isDodie.
Yeah you know what I mean.
It's like, bro, this is.

(12:37):
I thought this was YG.
He's putting on people in ourhood in our city and I'm putting
these guys on and we're goingto get to Drake in a minute and
people owe me an apology, butI'm going to lead to that.
You know what I'm sayingBecause to me that was the main
thing.
I liked about the album a lot.
I knew man.

(12:58):
We had a point now with theKendrick Catalyst dog, source
Magazine, with the five mics.
We don't expect nothing lessthan a four, I agree Like.
So I already knew it was goingto deliver.
Yeah, what a surprise drop.
But for me it was about puttingon them guys from LA and now
what's going to happen is nowthey got a platform and they're
going to go on tour.

Speaker 2 (13:15):
So here's the thing also that I don't think that
people are really looking at,and this is something that I
feel like every, every city,every coast should, should
really take.
This is the most important partof this whole thing the fact
that he took these artists thatwe may not we, as in the world,

(13:38):
may not know, but the west coastdoes know.
But he put them in a positionto where they can win, and when
I say that, I'm saying more of astandpoint of like, hey look,
this is how you do this, this ishow you create quality.
He showed them how to createquality, I guarantee you, like
even lefty um, lefty gunplay,yeah, he put him in a place to

(14:01):
where he could win.
In my opinion, he showed themhow you use yourself, he
produced them, and that'ssomething that in the music
industry, that doesn't happen.

Speaker 4 (14:12):
Especially in Houston .

Speaker 2 (14:13):
Like this is something that I would expect.
Kendrick did, something that nosuperstar has done, in my
opinion.
When we say that GNX is theWest coast's astroworld, I'm
saying that from a standpoint ofwhat if travis scott took a lot
of these artists under his wingand produced them and showed

(14:36):
them how to create quality yeahbecause that's what kendrick did
, right if I mean, atlanta doesit already.
But these are the things thatwe talk about when we say, hey,
create moments for your coastyeah put people on.
That's how you put people on byshowing them how to create

(14:58):
quality.

Speaker 1 (15:00):
This doesn't happen every day no, no, not at all he
produced these cats.

Speaker 2 (15:04):
He was Kanye West, he was Quincy Jones for these
artists on the West.

Speaker 1 (15:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (15:10):
I think that's an understatement.
I don't feel like everybody'sgiving him enough credit for
what he did in this situation,because these records are
amazing, even down to the factand I feel like I know how he
did it.
But that Dodger Blue record,bruh you just said like man,

(15:32):
where the fuck is Roddy Ricch inthis record?
That hook has damn near five orsix people on the hook.
Four, no, I'm saying five orsix, I think it's like four.
I can hear where Roddy Ricchcomes in, right, but the fact
that I know that he probably hadthem all do the same hook over
and over and he took pieces ofeverybody's hook and made it the

(15:56):
hook.
That doesn't happen every day.
That does not happen every day.

Speaker 1 (16:04):
We're talking about pure artistry at this point and
I want to ask a question too,because there's always been a
discussion about with people.
So when it came to like akendrick and drake remember that
theory they had about kendrickand drake and cole was that
drake was the better artistshe's made.
The better artist he shouldmake, the better albums.
Colmick is a better rapper.

(16:26):
I think that's debunked quickly, because when they say Drake is
a better artist over Kendrick,just because you can sing does
not make you a better artistthan somebody.
Because if you think aboutKendrick's artistry, it's not
just because it's not just okayyou're rapping.
He's doing more than that.
He's in the booth, he's pickingand choosing.
He's detailed.

(16:47):
You know what I mean.
Like it's more.
He can go through multiplegenres, like funk.
You know what I'm saying.
You got hip hop, you got.
He can do all of these things,plus also being detailed with
the albums and how he's pickingand choosing.

Speaker 2 (17:02):
Well, I feel, I feel like Kendrick is a student.

Speaker 1 (17:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (17:09):
Not saying Drake isn't because Drake is a student
of the game, but I feel likeDrake is the bigger pop star.
Kendrick is the better artist,if that makes sense.
Yeah, in hip-hop yeah, when itcomes to hip-hop, as far as pop
and in everything that circlesaround music, I feel like drake

(17:29):
is that and we're gonna get toeverything when it comes to
drake a little bit later.
But when it comes to a hip-hopartist and a composer and vision
and Vision, I feel likeKendrick takes the cake Between
them Three.

Speaker 1 (17:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (17:47):
Easily, because I have a take, I think, at this
point, given the success ofeverything that he's done In the
past year, but Not even thepast year, but not even the past
year, but just Classic albumafter classic album After

(18:09):
classic album, man, we gottacrown this man as the greatest
of all time.

Speaker 1 (18:15):
I agree I've been set after me.
I've been set after Nalak,cause he's the best ever.

Speaker 2 (18:20):
I feel like, in a lot of ways, there's no holes In
his resume when it comes toDrake.
Drake is great For what he is,but I feel like Drake has a lot
of misses.
And I feel like Drake and whenI say greatest of all time, I'm

(18:45):
talking about hip hop I thinkDrake is more More focused on
being a pop star Than he isbeing Like a hip hop, a rapper.

Speaker 1 (18:56):
Right, you know what I mean, yeah.

Speaker 2 (18:58):
And there's no shot to him.
But when we talk about culture,when we talk about hip hop and
what hip hop means to all of us,kendrick Embodies that To the T
, to.
You know, like this album Saidit all.
It said everything.
Like this album Said it allFrom a standpoint of like Look,

(19:21):
it's like Okay, when you playing2K and you say, hey, look, I'm
gonna take the Sorriest team andnot Saying the west coast is a
sorry team, like the people onthat album was, sorry artists.
Yeah, but I'm gonna take thisteam and I'm gonna take them to
the top right.
This man took Artists that wedidn't know about from a
worldwide Standpoint and putthem on this Album and made them

(19:44):
sounds.
It sequenced so perfectly.
Do you know what kind of?
Because this could have failed.

Speaker 1 (19:53):
Tremendously.
Yeah, because he took a risk,because he put on these
underground artists.
Yes, because remember when itcame out you had some people
that was out there saying, man,you didn't need to have All the
Doty 6 and Left Eye, you didn'tneed to have.

Speaker 2 (20:04):
All the Doty 6 and Left Eye Gun.
You didn't need that man look.
But here's the thing the publicwas saying that he wasn't
putting people On the west on.
Now you can't say that.
Right.
How many artists On that albumDid you say I ain't know who the
fuck this was?
How many of them Did you stillThink to yourself Like damn, I
don't know, I got to look at thecredits, yo.

(20:25):
When the last time you had tolook at the credits Exactly,
that's like the essence of hiphop.
I remember as a kid, even justin general, like man, even to
this day, I look at before Ilook at anything, I look at who
the credits is.

Speaker 1 (20:43):
Yo.

Speaker 2 (20:46):
Who is a part of this record?

Speaker 1 (20:47):
who created this?
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (20:50):
like, can we like?

Speaker 1 (20:55):
how amazing is that the essence of what this is, the
purity of what it is, therawness and and that's the thing
too, because you gotta look,okay, and that's another reason,
and I'm gonna get to the wholeGoat thing as well but, like, if
you take Kendrick, and when hecame in On the West Coast and
when they crowned him, thinkabout the West Coast Before

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Kendrick came, before, beforeGood Kid Mad City.
Think about the West CoastBefore Good Kid Mad City, what
was happening?
Man City, think about the WestCoast before Good Kid man City,
what was happening?
And then, honestly, no, okay,I'm thinking about the East
Coast as well, but the WestCoast just itself.
Before Good Kid man City, whatwas the West Coast?
Who was the top dog?

(21:39):
Like that, nobody.

Speaker 2 (21:41):
Nobody it wasn't anything.

Speaker 1 (21:42):
Kendrick was like the savior.
You know what I'm saying Likeit wasn't.
Nobody, it wasn't Anything.
So Kendrick was like the savior.

Speaker 2 (21:48):
So Well, I I wouldn't even just Cap it, at the West
Coast, I would say of hip hop.
Because the thing is, I thinkwe lost, we've lost the vision
Of what hip hop.
I had somebody Come to me andsay what's hip-hop Like, what's
hip-hop culture?
The fact that we even havingthis conversation is a problem.

(22:09):
Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Like Kendrick is giving theessence of what hip-hop is.
Yeah, the essence, like thisalbum describes what hip-hop is.
Just even the fact that youhave to sit down and think about
what this man is saying Fromall aspects, from a community

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aspect, to, like bro, this album, he delivered on all cylinders
and what's crazy is for me, Ifeel like he did it with ease
Because there was no, it wasstraightforward and to the point
.
Any of his other albums.
You gotta think through thisshit, you gotta listen to this
shit a couple times to reallyget the vision of what he's

(22:54):
trying to do.
I feel, like this album, it wasso straightforward, but at the
same time, you still do gottathink through all this shit,
because now we all having thinktanks of exactly what everything
means, even down to the musicvideos yeah, you gotta dissect
everything with kendrick and yougotta understand what he's,
what he's talking about, what'shis message.

(23:16):
But when we look at some of thegreats.
When it came to jay Nas, dmx,shit Rakim, ll Cool J, a lot of
these artists, you had to sitdown and think like, okay, what
is this person trying toScarface?
What is this person trying to?

(23:37):
What is the message?
What are you trying to tell me?
Yeah, and for the longest wedidn't have that, especially now
.

Speaker 1 (23:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (23:49):
So, man, we gotta give this man his credit, even
from track one To track twelve.
This was amazing.
This was an amazing body ofwork.
The only record that I don'treally like G-Nex.

Speaker 1 (24:02):
That's it, that's the only thing.
So so my thing with that songis Do we don't really like genix
?
That's it, that's the onlything, so I'm.
So my thing with that song isdo we don't like?
Because we're not in the westcoast, I, I believe.
So I mean you know what I'msaying.
I think that's what it is,because I'm like, okay, kendrick
is he's, he's picky, he's notgoing to put no throwaway on the
album.
I agree that song.

(24:23):
I'm pretty sure we go to la orcali.
We're going to understand thatparticular song I agree you know
what I'm saying.
So we're gonna be like okay,that song.

Speaker 2 (24:33):
You know I'm saying we're not gonna like it, but you
tell me an album to where everyapp, every record on there you
can.
It's there for you.

Speaker 1 (24:43):
Yeah, I mean as far as.

Speaker 2 (24:47):
I don't wanna say that, I'm not even gonna say
that, but you took me an albumTo where every record.

Speaker 1 (24:54):
Talks about them, and hip hop is tough.

Speaker 2 (24:57):
Even with Get Rich or Die Trying, it's a record that
For everybody, everybody wouldskip.

Speaker 1 (25:03):
It happens all the time.
I mean, there's always Somealbums that you're going to skip
one or two songs.

Speaker 2 (25:08):
It don't matter what genre it is you can't skip one
of them.
You, a J Cole fan, it's onealbum where you.
It's a bunch of albums whereyou like.
Okay one, I can live with that.
You can't live with J Cole, Huh, can we?

Speaker 3 (25:24):
got one song on there that they, they would.
Uh, it's a bunch of albums whenyou like.

Speaker 1 (25:29):
Okay, when I can live with that.
Huh, g and X.
Yeah, g and X, but, like I said, but as I'm saying Huh.
Well you can have an album.

Speaker 2 (25:36):
Hold on Are you saying it's a classic who?

Speaker 1 (25:38):
G and X.
Yeah, okay, it's too soon.
It's too soon to but what?

Speaker 2 (25:43):
I will say Not like us.
Us is the greatest disrecent ofall time I've been bro.

Speaker 1 (25:50):
Y'all caught me overreacting when I first said
that two weeks after.
The song was too early but Iknew, because the ramifications
I knew.
At that time I said, bro, theramifications of this song,
we're not going to say itimmediately but it's going to
take until that shit possiblyhappens to him allegedly.
Like that, bro, it's he got, hehad an ep of this is so you got

(26:11):
four songs he did.
Three of those is going to bein the top 10 of all time, top
five.
One of them is going to benumber one.
If you want to say meet thegrounds, number one, cool.
If you want to say euphoria ornot like us, I'm cool with that.
But three out of those threeout of those four songs is going
to be in that top five, top tenor top eight of this tracks of

(26:32):
all time.
You know I'm saying so when yousay not like us, I understand
because at the same time, notlike us, bro, it's a whole, it's
this generation's hit them upand that had features.

Speaker 2 (26:44):
Hey, I ain't gonna lie to you.

Speaker 1 (26:47):
Okay, okay, and that's what I said before.
Think about Hit Em Up.
We love that song and we wasbabies when the song came out.
So we think about the mosticonic line.
That's why I fucked your bitch,you fat motherfucker.
We remember that shit First off.
Fuck the rest of the song.
We don't sing that shit, notlike us.

(27:08):
We singing that shit frombeginning to end, yeah.

Speaker 2 (27:11):
You know what I'm saying, but okay.
So then we had a conversationbefore and I told y'all Huh.

Speaker 1 (27:19):
That's my whole point .
Yeah, so my whole point on HitEm Up was that.

Speaker 2 (27:22):
But also okay.
So here's the thing With NotLike Us.
What took it over the top isthat he created an anthem, and
when you create an anthemintentionally, it becomes bigger
than itself, if that makessense, Because now you got kids

(27:43):
saying freaky ass, nigga, I'mgoing.

Speaker 1 (27:48):
none guy I heard my instagram story had they
recording their daughter drawingsomething and she's singing,
not like us I'm telling youbecause it's an anthem.

Speaker 2 (27:55):
So the thing with drake when he did back to back,
back to back yes, this was, itwas a club record.
You can play this record in theclub.
You can play it in the stripclub, not like us.
You can play that motherfuckerat the nfl.
We've been watching fucking uhlebron james and fucking uh man.

Speaker 1 (28:16):
We've seen russ book dance to it we've seen yokis
dance to not like he was singinga song, because you can make a
model out of that.
You could be like hey, thisteam is not like yes or this
company this whatever, yes,whoever it is like.
Yes, it's a whole anthem.

Speaker 2 (28:29):
It's an anthem that was made.
That's what makes it thegreatest disc record of all time
.
Yeah it, I mean.
I mean we huh.
No, that's how it's going tohappen, like yeah, In July the

(29:06):
concert was in June.

Speaker 1 (29:06):
though the concert was in June.
Though the concert was in June.
But you know why though, becauseAbba was like we want to hear
this in person For the firsttime and he only played it.
He only played it in public onetime.

(29:26):
But we always say we was likeman, football season, hbcu bands
.
So it wasn't the fact that theymanufactured the hit, it was
the fact that the people chosethat song.
It's like bro, this is no.
I feel like this is organic asfuck.
It wasn't no manufactured fakehit.
It was like bro, we we seen thereaction.

Speaker 2 (29:47):
This, this wasn't, this wasn't forced, but that's
that's.

Speaker 1 (29:52):
That's what you're supposed to do.

Speaker 2 (29:55):
But, but, here's the thing.
One thing about Kendrick, onething about Kendrick that we
never had a had a problem withis the fact that he was always
calculating everything that hedid, even down to the album
rollout.
I don't know other than Hovdown there.
I don't know any other artistthat is as calculated as he is.

Speaker 1 (30:19):
Bro, did you see what they said about the GNX Theory?
What they said?
He dropped it on a day that JFKgot assassinated, yeah, and it
was like he got assassinated inTexas.
Drake lives in Texas now.
Oh, that's how calculated thisnigga.
Is we going to debunk?
We?

Speaker 2 (30:37):
going that far.
But here's the thing he playingwith him now.
Yeah, he know he's in his head.
Yeah, I don't feel like it's asecret on what this man is.
He's that.
See, here's the thing and we Iknow Before we get into it.
I rate the album a fucking A+.

Speaker 4 (30:58):
I feel like he only missed one time and that was a
GNX record.

Speaker 2 (31:02):
Other than that, I feel like that album Is going to
live on For a minute.

Speaker 1 (31:07):
Out of 12 songs.
11 out of 12 Bruh and GNX.
I'm going to put like this WithGNX If we go to Cali and we
hear that, we're going to have Adifferent feeling.
Bruh.

Speaker 2 (31:17):
Yeah, I just told you earlier I can't wait to go to
Cali.
I got to feel how this shitfeel.

Speaker 1 (31:24):
So let's take.
Okay, let's do, let's playagain.
This is only 12 songs, let'stake.
Let's do, like the source, withthe five mics, song by song.
Um, racked out mirrors.
I give it five mics.
Of course Um.
What came after Squabble up?

Speaker 2 (31:39):
Oh, squabble up.
Okay, do you think they livedup to the hype?

Speaker 1 (31:44):
To me yo.

Speaker 2 (31:45):
I agree too.

Speaker 1 (31:46):
To me.
I say five, I give five, luther.

Speaker 2 (31:51):
Five.

Speaker 1 (31:55):
Four for me.
Four for me.
What came after that?
Oh, man at the Garden, man onthe Garden.
I give it a five.
Nigga, that's five, yeah.

Speaker 3 (32:03):
What came after?
What song was after?

Speaker 1 (32:04):
that.
Oh man at the Garden.
Man on the Garden, that's five.
Nigga, that's five.
Yeah.
What song was after that?
What song was after man on theGarden?
Durn it.
What song was after man on theGarden?
Was the TV off?
No Reincarnated.

Speaker 2 (32:18):
Oh no no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 1 (32:20):
What chip it was, oh my god, I'm tripping, I got it,
I got it, I got it.

Speaker 2 (32:28):
Hey, now Five, five that nigga Bro, that nigga
pulled a Favo.

Speaker 1 (32:35):
Reincarnated.
Five, six Reincarnated, it'sjust some Rose Crayon Nigga.
Reincarnated Is a five TV offFive Five Eve.
You know what's so funny AboutLefty Gunplay?
He said four words, but thosefour words, some of the most,
four powerful words.

Speaker 2 (32:51):
Right now.
But okay, but this.
This speaks more On the geniusOf Kendrick the fact that you
know this nigga ain't Can't rapfor shit, but you gonna find a
way to make this nigga work.
Bruh, yes, come on, man, anyother motherfucker would have
been like nah I can't have himon the song man he said, no,
we're gonna figure this shit out.

(33:11):
Yeah, dodger blue man, I getout of five, I get a team and
they got a line, dance to it.
A lot of people saying theydidn't like it.

Speaker 1 (33:20):
But I don't understand how you don't like
their record at first to me,when I first heard it, first
listen, I was like Ah, three,four.
But then when I started hearingit I said okay.
And then when I saw the linedance I said oh, that's a five.
I said Bro, they.
I saw a video.
Dog breaking news ChrisMcCaffrey Suffered a Season

(33:44):
ending.
Chris McCaffrey suffered aseason-ending PCL injury All
right back to Kendrick.

Speaker 2 (33:48):
I won that trade.
I won that trade.
I'm sorry, I'm not happy thathe got hurt.
But I'm happy that I don't haveto deal with him.

Speaker 1 (33:59):
Yeah, that's a blue, though.
No real talk back to it, though.
Now they got the line dance too.
I give it a five.
Peek-a-boots a five.
For me, I give it a four.
What they talking about?
They talking about nothing.
What they talking about, theytalking about nothing.
What they talking about, theytalking about nothing.
I like it, I fuck with it.
I give it a four.

(34:19):
Hard part six or five for me.

Speaker 2 (34:22):
I give it a five.
A lot of people saying theydidn't like the hard part.
Six or whatever.
You have to be A TD fan or youhave to have Listened to the
Kendrick Lamar what's yourfavorite hard, mine's just one.

Speaker 1 (34:40):
Mine's hard part one.

Speaker 2 (34:42):
Is that the one that's on?
He had the sample beat.

Speaker 1 (34:44):
God damn that.
The one that's on.
He had the sample beat.
God damn it.

Speaker 2 (34:47):
The one that was on, I like the one that was on
Overly dedicated, yeah.

Speaker 1 (35:01):
Part two my favorite one, your mind's one.
Alright, g-index Damn.

Speaker 2 (35:07):
Is this?
I give it a three Until furthernotice.
It's not for me.
Yeah, until further notice.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (35:17):
I think I think every adult Feels that way, cause I
heard Joe Bunpock and he saidthe same shit yeah, they're like
, it's not it.

Speaker 2 (35:22):
It's just not for me.
Yeah, fuck two.
Yeah, I never give a pocket.

Speaker 1 (35:24):
He's at the same shit , yeah they're like oh, it's not
, it it's just not for me.
Yeah, I'm fuck too yeah I nevergave a kid, bro.
Kendrick's on two is crazy yeahI give it a three gloria or
what he was talking about?
Oh five niggas talking about awoman.

Speaker 2 (35:36):
He was talking about the rap game five, that was like
I gave you life by Nas.

Speaker 1 (35:48):
It's, he's amazing bro.

Speaker 2 (35:51):
Nah, this dude is Is off the charts.

Speaker 1 (35:54):
So I do wanna go back to what you said earlier,
though we were talking about.

Speaker 2 (35:59):
Hold up.
Where did you get that?

Speaker 1 (35:59):
whole album.
I get most songs 5's, 1 through10, or you talking about like
one through five, one throughfive, oh, one through five is a
4.8 I give it a 4.5 yeah, I getthat bitch a 4.8.
4.7 because of the g-neck song.
Yeah, the g-neck, if he tookout the g-neck song it's perfect

(36:21):
oh, my god, nigga, we talkingabout 11 for 11.
It's perfect, and there's noteven no bias, like it's
literally 11 for 11.
Yeah, I agree but here's the see.
I ain't gonna get in the wholeclassic shit.
I ain't gonna get no give ittime.

Speaker 2 (36:36):
Yeah, give it some time, give it time, let it go on
tour, because the thing is onething about this album is I feel
like it's the most replayablealbum of kendrick's other than
good kid mad city, and is I feellike it's the most replayable
album of Kendrick's Other thanGood Kid Mad City and Damn, I
feel like it's up there.

Speaker 1 (36:50):
And if there's a double album to it, oh my God.

Speaker 2 (36:54):
Oh, my God.

Speaker 1 (36:56):
He's going to shut the game down, bro.
Look R8,.

Speaker 2 (37:00):
King Kendrick.

Speaker 1 (37:03):
So he is Now hold on.

Speaker 2 (37:04):
Before we get to where we're about to go now.
King Kendrick, so he is Now.
Hold on Before we get to Towhere we about to go now.

Speaker 1 (37:11):
I wanna stay on Kendrick, just for one I wanna
get to your point.
Nah, I'm with you.
I wanna stay on this.

Speaker 2 (37:16):
As well.
Alright, so we know what'sgoing on, right, and we gonna
get to what's going on.
My million dollar question is,kendrick, what are you going to
do?
Obviously, you took the torch.
Now the attention is on you.

Speaker 1 (37:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (37:40):
What are you going to do?
That's the million dollarquestion.
Are you going to do?
That's the million dollarquestion.
Are you going to play fool Tothe industry games or are you
going to stay who you are?
Because that's the mostimportant thing About this?
Because now, at this point,when I'm looking at how the game
is being played, at this pointit's I don't feel like you can

(38:03):
come out, or anybody can comeout, with anything.
That's not Saying some kind ofmeaning.
And one thing I know aboutthese labels and the music
industry Is they have ways ofHaving tactics to make you Do
things that may not be Of yourcloth.

Speaker 1 (38:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (38:21):
And also From a business standpoint how do you
move the million dollar?
Question to me is what isKendrick going to do with the
torch?
I think we know though Well wecan't say that because at a
certain point, which I'm prettysure we're about to get into it

(38:42):
we thought that Drake was goingto do the right thing.

Speaker 1 (38:50):
Did we?
I mean like, honestly, like,did we though?

Speaker 2 (38:53):
I believe that he did Because when you take projects
like so far gone, you wouldthink that the route that he
took Wouldn't have been theroute that he took, wouldn't
have been the route that he'staken.

Speaker 1 (39:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (39:10):
We didn't know that he would do the things that he
was gonna do.
So my only it's not even aworry, because I feel what
you're saying, but my thoughtprocess is when, in the next 10
years, how are we going to lookat Kendrick?

Speaker 1 (39:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (39:31):
Because I don't believe that he would do X, y
and Z, but I didn't believe thatDrake would have as well.
Right, it.

Speaker 1 (39:43):
I just my thing is, I just didn't think with Drake to
carry the torch BecauseKendrick and Cole came.
They was right behind him whenit came to that generation.

Speaker 2 (39:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (39:54):
This generation, the 2010s dog,those are the three for sure.
But me personally, I didn'texpect Drake to carry the torch
and do all these magnum.
Like I said, I lost hope afterViews.
After Views, I said I don'tknow.

Speaker 2 (40:11):
Nah, but before Views we had a certain depiction of
who Drake was.

Speaker 1 (40:16):
Yeah, Some people argue number one and I wasn't
mad at that.
Yeah, at that moment, yeah,like, think me later, not think
me later, not think me later.
I'm sorry, nothing was the same.
I said okay.
Okay, if you want to havenumber one, that's fine.
There's a clear three Cole,kendrick, drake.
Like it was no order.
However you want to put it,nigga 1ABC.
I agree it's all about.

Speaker 2 (40:34):
What your preference was In 2013, for sure.

Speaker 1 (40:38):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (40:39):
But at this point I feel like kenji looks like this
right now it's, it's he took thethrone, bro.

Speaker 1 (40:45):
It's like what?
And I remember I think I toldyou this before.
I told you this already thinkabout wrestling.
Think about wb for a minutewhen you're okay.
So we grew up in the AttitudeEra.
Obviously, rock, stone Cold,shea Blades, all these guys.

(41:05):
You're great when you don'thave to hold the belt, when you
don't need the belt around yourwaist as a champion and you
still getting a lot of love andpopularity.
People fuck with you.
You know you're doing somethinggreat.
You can operate as not beingthe number one person with the

(41:27):
championship belt.
So when you but you have otherpeople that don't know how it
feels without the belt, theyoperate different, they move
different.
They feel like once they losethat number one spot, oh, they
feel like all hell breaks loose.
They feel like the war is aboutto end.
Kendrick is not the type of guy.
He don't need the championshipbelt.
Once they lose that number onespot, oh, they feel like, oh,
hell breaks loose.

Speaker 2 (41:45):
They feel like the war is about to end Right.

Speaker 1 (41:47):
Kendrick is not the type of guy.
He don't need the championshipbelt.
He can just take that bitchfrom you.
You know what I'm saying?
Right, and you look at Drakeright now, what's happening
right now in his mind and to thegeneral public.
They don't listen to hip-hopall the time, don't?
Just they, just the generalpublic right they looked at
drake as the number one guy inthe game, right.

(42:11):
So now, for the first time,those same people that looked at
him at number one it's notlooking at him number one
they're looking at kendrick nowand they're saying, oh, I think
it's kendrick 9.
You know 69, they singing, notLike Us, everywhere.
Now it's mainstream SupermanNigga going to win Song of the
Year in the Grammys.
Right, he don't know how tooperate without the championship

(42:35):
built around his waist.

Speaker 2 (42:35):
Well, that's because and I think we had this
conversation before I feel likethe Drake fan base aren't
particularly Hip hop Fans.
More pop fans yeah, they'remore pop fans, but they have a
different Depiction of what hiphop is Right Like.
I've had this conversation Witha couple people and they're
like what is hip hop culture?

(42:56):
And for you to even Ask thatquestion, that means that you're
not hip hop.
So you got a lot of people thatdon't understand hip hop in
itself and what it means andwhat's the pure origin of what
it is, that have a lot ofopinions and things of that

(43:17):
nature because their king is, Imean, I'm sorry to say it, but
he's falling.

Speaker 1 (43:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (43:26):
But the reason why you even look at it like that,
because we were all looking atthis battle as if not.
I can say me like this I wasn'tlooking at it as Kendrick is
hip hop and Drake ain't, and Iwasn't saying that.
I was looking at it as astandpoint of you got two hip

(43:48):
hop artists.
That's going heads up and it'scool Because that's what hip hop
is Right.
When we look at Some of thegreatest and this is why I say I
feel like Kendrick is probablythe greatest of all time Music,
morale, stance and battle, howmany, how many you talk about

(44:15):
what did Drake say?
He said he got War MedallionsCause he's a war veteran.
My thing is the only thing forKendrick at this point
Medallions Cause he's a warveteran.
Oh my god, dude.
My thing is the only thing forKendrick at this point Because
he had classic albums.
The morale was on point.
He stood up for the people.
The only thing he was missingwas taking down a giant and he

(44:38):
did that.
Yo and Nobody else, when itcomes to Looking at his resume,
has the same resume.
Jay-z's, my favorite rapper ofall time.
He has hella misses.
Kendrick ain't got a miss.
I don't care for who you arewhen you look back at even

(44:58):
people talk about missing morale.
I'm a father, I'm a husband,I'm a man.
I'm a husband, I'm a man.
When I go back and listen tothese records, this is things
that I think about In a dailybasis and this is my opinion.
Akil, when it came to Drake, wecouldn't live through His

(45:22):
discography, because I'm notfucking with Little girls, no
more.
And when I say little girls,I'm not speaking from Pedophile
standpoint, but I'm not fuckingwith 26 years old.

Speaker 1 (45:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (45:33):
I got a child, I got a wife.
I'm not in the club, no more.

Speaker 1 (45:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (45:40):
He didn't allow his Audience to grow with him.
So now these records Don't meantoo much to us, because you
still trying to stay young.

Speaker 1 (45:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (45:50):
So when I look at Hip hop and Ilook at that battle and I look
at Both of their resumes we werelooking at it from an objective
standpoint, man it's an obviouswinner.

Speaker 1 (46:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (46:11):
And it's okay, because, at the end of the day,
after that battle, we were stilllooking at Drake.
Well, at least I was stilllooking at Drake for who Drake
was.
Yeah, I feel like, after thesepetitions, after these the
defamation I've never seen, I'venever seen anything like this,

(46:35):
which I understand it on adifferent level when it comes to
his purpose of doing it now,but if we're just looking at it
for what it is, from a hip-hopstandpoint, not like us has to
be the greatest, this record ofall time it has to be and I'm
not disagreeing.

Speaker 1 (46:54):
And, as I said, pick, pick, pick your poison if you
want not like us, if you wanteuphoria, if you want.
Euphoria is slept on, bro.
I don't see how, though that'smy thing.
It's like Euphoria was the onethat was the.
A lot of people say they likeEuphoria more than I like us.
I do Like.

Speaker 2 (47:17):
I don't know what else, motherfucker.
Even when it came down to Meetthe Grams, he dissected this man
, meet the Grams we seen Okay.

Speaker 3 (47:29):
Oh, my God, I was.

Speaker 2 (47:29):
Dissected this man we seen.
Okay, hold on, can we get tothis list?
Okay, I got a list.
I have a list.
I have a list.
It's perfect.
I told you Earlier there's alist Of niggas you do not fuck
with.
They're too.
They are too Strategic and tooSurgical.

(47:54):
You leave the motherfuckersalone.
I never get.
And he's on my list.
When Drake Went Heads up WithWith Pusha T, I told, I told
everybody.
I said when Drake Went Heads upWith With Pusha T, I told, I
told everybody.
I said he better not respond,just leave, let him just talk.

(48:14):
Don't go heads up With this man.
That's one of them niggas youleave alone.
Let him do whatever the fuck hegonna do.
Pusha T Is one of them ones.
He got too much Time on hishands and he's too Fucking good

(48:35):
and he don't Give a fuck.
Leave him alone.

Speaker 1 (48:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (48:43):
That told me Everything I need to know About
Drake when it came down To a hiphop standpoint.

Speaker 1 (48:50):
What was the list you talking about?

Speaker 2 (48:51):
Alright, so my list, my list Kendrick.

Speaker 1 (48:57):
And no order.
What you talking about?
No order, as far as oh.

Speaker 2 (49:00):
Leave that motherfucker alone.

Speaker 1 (49:02):
And that means to the people, to the people that
don't know Is Don't bark up thattree.
That tree will fall on you.
Leave that motherfucker alone.

Speaker 2 (49:06):
And that means to the people, to the people that
don't know is Don't bark up thattree, that tree will fall on
you.

Speaker 1 (49:11):
So we talking about hey, don't fuck with these
motherfuckers in a beef or a Ina rap beef.

Speaker 2 (49:15):
Leave him alone, Don't even Unless you ready to
go to war.
Shit him, her Shit there's somehers out there that you don't
want to fuck with, leave themalone.

Speaker 3 (49:28):
Do not fuck with them .

Speaker 1 (49:29):
If you're not ready.

Speaker 2 (49:30):
I would say now Okay, all the time.
That's a nice little list, yeah.

Speaker 1 (49:35):
But right now RP Demexus.
He was on my list.
Shit, leave them alone.
Jay Z didn't wanna see him,yeah.

Speaker 4 (49:44):
Man.

Speaker 2 (49:45):
Another nigga from back in the day Big L.
I feel like Big L Would havetore a nigga ass up.

Speaker 1 (49:50):
That's the biggest what up For hip hop?
Yes.

Speaker 2 (49:53):
Okay, now my list.
Right now Kendrick, pusha T,benny the Butcher, conway the
Machine.
And I had one more Jadakiss,jadakiss, jadakiss.
Leave them niggas alone.
Leave them alone, don't, evenIf they fuck with you.

(50:15):
Or Let them niggas slide, causeyou.

Speaker 1 (50:23):
Eminem.

Speaker 2 (50:24):
Oh Eminem too, yeah, nah Eminem.
Oh Eminem too yeah, nah Eminem.
Look kind of weak AgainstMachine Gun Kelly.

Speaker 1 (50:31):
See, that's what me and you disagree.
I'll take it, eminem he, I'mgoing to tell you why.
Look what happened after.

Speaker 3 (50:40):
The beef.

Speaker 1 (50:41):
It just was a struggle.
It was like a dirt off theshoulder.
Eminem dropped an album thisyear and it did what it had to
do and it was a good album.

Speaker 4 (50:48):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (50:48):
That's what I'm saying Like,because it didn't.
It didn't affect Eminem.

Speaker 4 (50:53):
I agree the shield was too.

Speaker 1 (50:57):
It was unbreakable.
Yeah, you know what I'm saying,like For some people that
probably dove Into Probably doveinto that beef Maybe, but that
didn't.

Speaker 2 (51:05):
See, but that that's the same thing that you would
say About Pusha T against Drake.

Speaker 1 (51:10):
Only reason why, the only reason why I wouldn't.
I wouldn't Because Pusha T, hedelivered a blow, because he
Told the story of Adonis.

Speaker 2 (51:21):
You know what I'm saying and, to be honest with
you, that's upwards Of the top10, this raw, oh nigga.
You know what I'm saying and,to be honest with you, that's
upwards Of.
The top 10 Disavowal oh nigga.

Speaker 1 (51:29):
That's in the top 5-7 .
Like, yeah, it's Some of thegreatest.
Disavowal time has to move over.
Like we could take it All theway back to when Kara is one.
The bridge is falling.

Speaker 2 (51:40):
You know what I'm saying, like we could take it
from that the bridge is over.

Speaker 1 (51:43):
The bridge is over.
I'm sorry, the bridge is over.
There's some distance that hadto Move with this era, so we got
the same.
I'll say Kendrick Em, beanieSiegel.
Jadakiss 50 Damn I forgot about50.

Speaker 2 (52:04):
I might have to switch Jadakiss out for 50.
50, damn, I forgot about 50.
Yes, push it.
I might have to switch Jadakissout for 50, I might 50 and J.

Speaker 1 (52:12):
You don't want to mess with Down the beef.

Speaker 2 (52:17):
Well, 50, 50 Killed niggas, careers, you just saying
that shit Cause I take JadakissOver J Cole, j Cole, j Cole
ain't killed a soul?

Speaker 1 (52:29):
Here's a question.
This is a real question.
But here's a question, thoughthis is a real last question
Just hip hop, not talking aboutjust music, because we already
know music Drake is going to bepop, he's going to be in other
genres.
Did Kendrick do drake worsethan?

Speaker 2 (52:56):
what 50 did jaru?
Just hip-hop.
I'm not talking about house popand r&b.
Yeah, I'm sorry I do because Ifeel like even with jaru jaru
did.
He stopped Because he had a lotof Legal Situation going on and
even after the beef he had hitrecords.

Speaker 1 (53:11):
He had New York.
Yeah, he had New.

Speaker 2 (53:12):
York.
He had Wonderful the recordwith him.
R Kelly and Ashanti.

Speaker 1 (53:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (53:20):
I feel like and there was still Some kind of respect
For Ja Rule.
I feel like you don't do thatand still go platinum multiple
times after that.
If it was like that, I justfeel like 50 Cent was just a
bigger artist at that point.

Speaker 1 (53:35):
Yeah, way bigger artist.
Yeah, and it was a wave.

Speaker 2 (53:38):
I feel like for Drake and how it looks.
Even though I understand whathe's trying to do, the look and
the timing is horrible.

Speaker 1 (53:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (53:52):
It's horrible Because , basically, what it looks like
with the defamation and thepetition, it looks like as if
Drake is like we playing thedozens and you like Nigga.
I'm about to tell the teacherit's like nigga, we were playing
the same game, so I got aquestion, uh huh.

Speaker 1 (54:17):
With him doing that.
All the shit, all the streetshit he was talking on Latest
songs Is out the window now.
Yeah, because now we're notgoing to believe.
I mean definitely didn'tbelieve you beginning, but now
we definitely don't believe younow.
Yeah, because all thisno-facing mob ties and all this
other stuff he was singing onsongs, that's out the window

(54:39):
because you went to the, you gotcourts involved, yeah it looks
like you sued Because you lost abattle.
You lost a battle.
That's what, and that's why Isaid the timing, what you're
doing.
If it's a renegotiation,alright, cool, that's fine, you
might be worth Than what you are.
But at the same time, when youput out, oh well, shit, they use

(55:01):
my money, they gonna use for meTo put towards, not like us.

Speaker 2 (55:04):
Come on, man, this is a different fight now.
Like what's funny is Kendrickwas fighting a fight that it
just so happened that all of itclashed together.
If that makes sense, drake isfighting a different fight and

(55:26):
we gonna see exactly what thatfight is.
Or if it's the fight that Ithink that it is, by how he
handles the situation, becausethe petition is mainly to find
out what I need to sue about.
But also the issue with that isthe fact that A lot of the
things that he's suing abouthe's benefited from.

(55:48):
To be honest with you, 90 to100% of the people who signed to
record labels have benefitedfrom the same exact things.
So these are not things.
That's like.
It's not far-fetched at all.
We know how bots and things ofthat nature.

(56:09):
Again, 90% of the artists Inthe music industry right now Use
bots.
It's a part of the industry.
I've used bots.
Like it's not something that'snot.
It's not far-fetched.
The issue is all right.

(56:31):
What are you doing this for?
Because the positive that cancome into into play with all of
this is if universal are all of,okay, let's get to fuck's.
Cut to the case, to the chase IfUniversal is found guilty for
what they're doing as far asfrom a payout standpoint.

(56:52):
What that does is it exposesthe entire industry to where now
we have to rebuild.
You tore it down for it tobuild up, which is an amazing
thing, because you got therecord labels Control the
majority Of the share, themajority of the share Within the

(57:13):
music industry, and when I saythat I'm saying Okay, the
listening share.
The majority of them Arelistening to Drake, taylor Swift
, whoever it may be.
If that happens and thosetactics are not, are no longer
being used now the independentArtist begins to be able To have
a space to when they can grow.

(57:35):
So now it's an open market,it's free enterprise.
At that point, yeah.
That's the benefit Of it all.
But If he settles, that's thebenefit of it all, but If he
settles, it continues.
So now, at that point, the shitthat he's saying is if, hey,

(58:00):
I'm here tubbing Right, I'mtrying to free all the artists.

Speaker 1 (58:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (58:05):
It's not in void, because you just took a check
and we still in the same Boatthat we've been in For the past
Forever.

Speaker 1 (58:14):
Yo, you know what I mean.
That's really what it is it'slike and, as I said, the timing
of it I'm not.

Speaker 2 (58:21):
My thing is it's Okay if you want to Renegotiate, but
my thing is it's Okay if youwant to renegotiate, but it but
here's the thing though he Iflet's say he did it From a
standpoint of Alright, let mekill Some of this noise he
actually added on to it BecauseNow, like us, this is up 400%.

Speaker 1 (58:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (58:42):
So that's why I say what was your purpose To doing
all of this?
If your purpose is From arenegotiating standpoint To
where it's beneficial to you,cool.
But the thing is the way themedia Is making it sound as if
You're doing something From acivil standpoint that will help

(59:02):
others Like you're sacrificingyourself so others can win.
We gonna see yeah, we're goingto see Very soon.
If he goes through with it theright way, this will be the most
important moment in musichistory.

(59:22):
And I'm not just talking from ahistory, a hip-hop standpoint,
I'm speaking from a musicbusiness industry standpoint.
This will be huge because nowthe power is not in one place,
now it's an even playing fieldto an extent so was this the red

(59:43):
button he was talking about?

Speaker 1 (59:44):
yeah, so it wasn't a red button Towards Kendrick, it
was a red button Towards him.

Speaker 2 (59:48):
That's what I'm saying.
It's two different fights.
It's two different fights andthat's what the main reason why
I say, even when it come toKendrick Now it's your turn.
Now the question is, what areyou gonna do?
That's the most importantMoment, in my opinion, for a
Kendrick.
What are you gonna do now?
Are you gonna set it straight?

(01:00:09):
Because now you have the power,you're the king, you have the
power to control everything.
Because now All the consciousartists Are starting to come
back into fold, which I've beensaying for years.
I knew the consciousness Wasgonna come back, yeah, but how
it was gonna come come back, noone knew.
Because right now, this is whatwe need.

(01:00:32):
What is going to happen.

Speaker 1 (01:00:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:00:35):
Because all this shit is a revolving door.
We've been here before, whetheryou know it or not.
We just haven't been in asituation To where the music
industry Is being Exposed.
That's what.
That's the most important Partof all of this shit.

Speaker 1 (01:00:52):
Yo.

Speaker 2 (01:00:53):
Fuck the beef.
The beef is over.
It was gonna happen, regardless.
But, at the same time, drake isso important Within all of this
Because he controls so much ofthe market, the market share.
What are you going to do?
Are you going to, if we'rebeing completely honest, are you

(01:01:14):
going to sell everybody out fora check?
Or are you going to stand onbusiness and expose this whole
game and make it an even playingfield?
And not even it won't ever bean even playing field, but it
won't be as Fucked up as it isnow.

Speaker 1 (01:01:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:01:35):
Because all of these things that he's saying, he's
used From the, from the payola,from the, the, the bots, all of
these things, what are you gonnado?
Yeah we about to see some shitand if you give a fuck about
music, pay attention if youdon't enjoy the ride right,

(01:01:59):
that's really what it is at thispoint, because now, with
everything about to happen, it'slike shit we could body.

Speaker 1 (01:02:08):
We might be thinking drake later, remember that album
, thank me later.

Speaker 2 (01:02:11):
We might be like to be, if he plays his car, if he
plays his cars the right way,hey, you gotta give him his,
just do.
The only thing I would say isEverything makes sense If he's
doing what I think he's doing,from the 100 gigs To Posting on

(01:02:33):
Instagram it all makes sense.
Now he wants to get out thatdeal.
Well, it's not only that.
He has to gauge exactly whatthe numbers do, what's real and
what's fake.
Right, you can't fake Certainshit.

Speaker 1 (01:02:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:02:48):
So if I do certain shit and people come, a gives me
leverage From a renegotiatingStandpoint, and then B, you
can't tell me what I can andcan't do, because I'm watching
it, I'm looking at it liveExactly.
It's.
It's collecting data, it'sgaining all the information that

(01:03:11):
I need to go forward.
It all makes sense now.
All of this shit makes so muchsense now.

Speaker 1 (01:03:18):
So are we at a conclusion now With what Drake
did, or we're saying it's more.
It's more like Okay, so we On apercentage wise what Drake did.
Or we're saying it's more likeokay, so percentage-wise what
Drake did.
Or we're saying, at this point,now that we see where he's
coming from, more so than like,ah, drake acting like a Karen,
which side are we leaning onmore at this point?
Is it 55-45?

(01:03:40):
No, I see what he's saying yeah, I see what he's saying, just
the timing of it it.

Speaker 2 (01:03:45):
I feel like the timing Of it just fucked up, but
I feel like For the greatergood, if he's thinking this is
that's what I'm saying.
We won't know until later on.
Are you thinking about thegreater good or are you just
thinking On some caring shit?

Speaker 1 (01:03:58):
That you lost some, that you lost a battle.
Exactly which one is it?

Speaker 2 (01:04:01):
I don't know.
That's the thing.
I don't know.
I'm leaning more toward thegreater good, because I feel
like he comes from a.
The people that back him Comefrom an independent standpoint,
so they understand the tricks ofthe trade, of what's going on.

Speaker 1 (01:04:22):
Here's what I'm lost at, though, because when you my
thing I'm lost at Is that youwent out and said that they
literally your own labelLiterally tried to say that they
artificially Inflated the song.
Basically, what you're sayingIs that the song isn't what it
is, which it clearly is Well, itbenefits.

Speaker 2 (01:04:41):
It benefits UMG, because it's renegotiation time.

Speaker 1 (01:04:49):
Yeah, it is.

Speaker 2 (01:04:51):
So with renegotiation you don't want to pay any more
than what you already paid.
The man's got a $400 milliondeal.
You think they want to pay $600?
And on top of that you'retrying to go independent.
Yeah, and on top of that You'retrying to go independent Yo.
You control the majority shareOf the music industry.

(01:05:11):
Larry Jackson said this man.
His catalog Is worth more thanthe 70s, 80s and 90s Put
together, Including Michael.

Speaker 1 (01:05:24):
Yes oh, is it my Including Michael?
Yes, oh we talking aboutDrake's catalog.
Yes, his catalog is worth morethan that.

Speaker 2 (01:05:30):
Yes, but the thing is , UMG created that Right With
the things that they, that he'ssuing them for.

Speaker 1 (01:05:41):
The music industry is .

Speaker 2 (01:05:43):
So if you leave here's the thing if you leave,
because the thing If you leaveCause 9 out of 10.
I believe that Drake Is tryingto leave With his shit.
If you leave, you take themajority Of the share Of the
music industry, so that UMGdoesn't have the leverage that
they usually have and they ain'tgonna like that.

Speaker 1 (01:05:58):
Exactly that.
We know, nigga.
We seen how shit Ends with that.
I'm not going to say, I'm notgoing to say nothing, but we
know how that shit ends.

Speaker 2 (01:06:13):
So that's why I keep saying it's a game within the
game, because Kendrick isfighting a different fight than
Drake is fighting.

Speaker 1 (01:06:24):
Drake is fighting.
Kendrick wants to be the top.

Speaker 2 (01:06:25):
Drake is fighting.
Drake is fighting.
Kendrick wants to be the top ofhip hop.
No, kendrick wants to Changethe narrative.
Of what hip hop?

Speaker 1 (01:06:30):
is yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:06:32):
Drake, don't give a fuck About hip hop.

Speaker 3 (01:06:34):
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:06:34):
Drake is thinking more From an ownership
standpoint, which is cool.
Yeah, I agree with that.
But don't think for a secondthat they you still a nigga,
yeah, you still a nigga, slashjew.
They don't look at that.
They looking at you being anigga.
You think we about to let whatthe cal mcnair say?

(01:06:56):
Let the prisoners run the yard.
Yeah, run the yard, yeah no,this is a bigger game and I I
feel like all independentartists need to be paying
attention to what's going on forthe next year or two.

Speaker 4 (01:07:10):
Because it's going to get.

Speaker 2 (01:07:13):
If he gives a fuck, he's not going to settle for
what they're going to try to pay, Because at this point I give
you a billion dollars orwhatever you're asking for.
Yeah billion dollars orwhatever.
Whatever you asking for, yeahto be to stay, for us to
continue to own your catalog,because we're not going to give

(01:07:33):
you ownership for this shit butremember, when I asked you that
question this week, I said withabout the mold, who is the true
mold in this whole thing?

Speaker 1 (01:07:42):
and I said lucien grange.

Speaker 2 (01:07:44):
Yeah, I mean, you kept saying scissor, yeah I feel
like it could be both but I'mlike man, now that everything's
playing out, it might be lucianI feel like both of them, but
then at the same time, with melooking at it like that, I'm
it's yeah it's gonna beinteresting, bro.
It is because then at thatpoint, anybody could look at

(01:08:04):
Kendrick differently.
In which way?
In a way of Are you playingindustry games as well, which I
know that he's not, but theaverage person Wouldn't look at
it in that standpoint.

Speaker 1 (01:08:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:08:18):
He has his own mission.
That he's on.
It's not the same, but theaverage person wouldn't look at
it like Academics type ofmotherfucker Wouldn't look at it
like that.
They would look at it as yourentire Industry.
But you're playing this role.
That is like no.

Speaker 4 (01:08:40):
This is different.

Speaker 2 (01:08:41):
This is not that.
That's why I keep saying andand that's another thing, bro,
we got.
Please, man, enjoy the music.
Just enjoy the music, bro.
The beef was the beef.
You can like both.
I love Drake's music.
Well, his past music I like hispast music?

Speaker 1 (01:09:01):
yeah, for sure, but you can like both, yeah, we
can't.

Speaker 2 (01:09:05):
If it's, is it good, if it's bad, that's all you need
To think about.
Fuck all that other shit thaty'all talking about.
Bro Cause, a lot of shit Y'alltalking about Don't make sense
at all.
Like, yeah, enjoy the music,that's all you can do At this
point.

(01:09:27):
It's about to get real, though.
It's about to get real, and I'mhere for it, because if you're
an independent artist, man, thisis show time.
Let's just Keep doing whatyou're doing, but just pay
attention, because if Drake doeswhat he's supposed to do the
right thing we're going to havea whole new ball game.
If he don't, it's the same shit.

(01:09:48):
Basically it's the same shit,and it's going to look bad on
him.
In my opinion, it's going to beinteresting.

Speaker 1 (01:09:59):
Do you think?

Speaker 2 (01:10:00):
But after that, do you feel like Drake Can still do
what Drake does In hip hop?
Yeah, just in general.
In music, yes, hip hop, no.
After that, do you feel likeDrake can still do what Drake
does In hip-hop?

Speaker 1 (01:10:08):
Yeah, just in general In music yes, hip-hop no.
Only because of what transpiredlately with the court.
You can't talk about the samestuff, like I said earlier, like
mob ties and all these otherthings.
You can't do that on your songs.
Now can you go to do an albumwith gordo all day long easily

(01:10:28):
but I feel like that, I thinkthat still hurts him.
I still think it hurts him Idon't think his next album will
hit number one.
I don't either because thatthat it's gonna take a hit I
don't know especially what youdid to umg.

Speaker 2 (01:10:45):
Oh, umg is definitely not gonna let you get number
one man y'all about to see somuch smut because here's the
thing.

Speaker 1 (01:10:51):
Now you're talking about the box thing we remember
we talked about.
Like yo did.
You just expose yourself sayingthat you use boss on circle.
I used to have this theory.
Every time I said, dog, look atthe last time, look at the last
time Drake had a song byhimself.
That was a true, like you heard.
We all heard Like okay, this isa, this is a hit.

(01:11:12):
I like okay, this is a true.

Speaker 2 (01:11:14):
By himself.
The last one I heard was God'sPlan.

Speaker 1 (01:11:16):
Bro, that was seven years ago, almost a decade.

Speaker 2 (01:11:21):
Even with God's Plan, I feel like it was.

Speaker 1 (01:11:22):
It was a little forced?
Yeah, it was not even a little,it was a little forced.
Yeah, it wasn't even a little,it was forced.
So, that's what I'm saying, somy whole thing is when you take
away the box, hold on.

Speaker 2 (01:11:30):
But here's the thing.
It makes sense because that'swhen he just signed the $400
million deal.

Speaker 1 (01:11:36):
At the time yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:11:38):
So as a label, I can't let this fail.
We just put $400 million inthis cake.
It's a tricky game, man.
Michigan Street's crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:11:51):
It's a tricky game, god damn, because the people and
that's why I say we talkedabout G and X like he put out 12
.
He put out a 12 song album, 12track album.
He didn't Surprise.
He let the people determinewhat's gonna be those hits.
The people determine.

Speaker 2 (01:12:09):
Squabble up tv off and luther but kendrick always
does it every time yeah, yeaheven the last album we knew.
I told niggas in 95 was gonnabe the single.
Before it was a single, butdamn he did do.

Speaker 1 (01:12:24):
Uh, umble umble was the one that the single before
it was a single, but damn, hedid do.
Umble Umble was the one thatcame up before the album.
Yeah, he dropped the video.
Yeah, because the video came upbefore the song.

Speaker 2 (01:12:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:12:36):
So he was like okay, surprisevideo.

Speaker 2 (01:12:39):
But here's the thing I feel like he's just gotten to
the point to where he's able toput out surprise albums.

Speaker 1 (01:12:46):
Was that the first time he did like a surprise
something when he dropped UmberCause?
I feel like Umber was the firsttime he did like A random drop.
It was a video and I think thatwas the first time he started
doing that shit.

Speaker 2 (01:12:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:12:56):
Yeah, okay, I know I wasn't tripping.

Speaker 2 (01:12:58):
Damn, that was a good ass album.

Speaker 1 (01:13:00):
Damn was cold that was a good-ass album, Bro he.

Speaker 3 (01:13:05):
I mean how?

Speaker 2 (01:13:06):
do you want to rank his albums bro?

Speaker 1 (01:13:08):
Like a year from now.

Speaker 2 (01:13:09):
We're going to rank, but it's the artistic.
He just, he's just the greatestbro, he's a great.
He's Jay and Nas put together,jay and Nas, he's all the greats
in one body.

Speaker 1 (01:13:25):
I think you're going to piss on people off when you
say that I don't give a fuck.
You're going to piss off J-Kolfans.
They'll be like man.
J-kol deserved to be in thatranking man.
J-kol ain't did enough I likeJ-Kol, but it's just not enough
moments.
That's my only thing.

Speaker 2 (01:13:41):
In my opinion, J Cole is one-dimensional.
He's great at beingone-dimensional.
Well see, that's when wedisagree on that.

Speaker 1 (01:13:51):
J Cole's great.

Speaker 2 (01:13:52):
No, I ain't say he's not great.
He's great at beingone-dimensional.

Speaker 1 (01:13:58):
He can wrap his ass off.
I just think Kenzie's aseparate.

Speaker 2 (01:14:03):
That's why Jay-Z told Drake hey, get him one.
I understand it.
It's not a knock to him.
He's amazing, he can wrap hisass off.
But when we talk about allright, here's the thing with J
Cole that he loses to Kendrick.
I think he's better at this.

(01:14:23):
He's better at it than Drake is.
J Cole's albums don't alwaysHit the mark.
Which one?
So?
J Cole makes Great records, butwhen it comes to creating a
concise Album, that's Just youUnder Novel.

(01:14:49):
We know it's a classic.
You Other than 2014, forestHill Drive.
You tell me another album thatwas just a classic Under novel.
That's my classic.

Speaker 1 (01:15:01):
What else?
Friday Night Lights, that's amixtape, what else?

Speaker 2 (01:15:05):
Born Center.
Born Center is not a classic,hey.

Speaker 1 (01:15:11):
It's a you know what it is.

Speaker 2 (01:15:14):
Put it like this Does he have better?
And I'm only comparing themBecause this has been the
conversation.
Does he have better, and I'monly Comparing them Because this
has been the conversation.
Does he have better albums ThanKendrick?
Yeah, does he have betteralbums Than Drake?
They neck and neck, in myopinion, shit.

Speaker 1 (01:15:35):
Me personally.
I think J Cole got betteralbums.
You can say that.
But Preference, just preference.

Speaker 2 (01:15:38):
Drake got so far gone , shit Me personally I think J
Cole got better albums.
You can say that, butPreference, just preference.
Drake got so Far Gone which youcan put Friday Night.

Speaker 1 (01:15:44):
Lights, friday Night Lights, compared to Take Care,
no, no, no, thank Me Later.
Sideline Store Thank Me Later.
Was his first album.
Sideline Store was his firstalbum.
I'm talking about Take Care.
Oh, that's going to get boring.
Oh, Take Care is better thanBoring Center.
Nothing was the same Versus2014.

Speaker 3 (01:16:04):
Oh God damn.

Speaker 1 (01:16:05):
Now we talking.
Now that's a conversation.
Nothing was the same, because Ithink nothing was the same, and
2014 is a classic.
I agree, that's their junioralbums.
But, nah Shit yeah, it's theyjunior albums.
But Nah Shit yeah, it's theyjunior albums.

Speaker 2 (01:16:21):
Hold on, take it later.

Speaker 1 (01:16:22):
Take care, nothing was the same.
That's the first three.
J Cole's first three isSideline Born Center, then 2014,
bro, 2014 and nothing was thesame.

Speaker 2 (01:16:35):
That's a Tough one, woo.
I don't care what you say.
That's a tough one, woo.
I don't care what you say.

Speaker 1 (01:16:41):
That's a tough one.
That is, that's tough Nigga.
That's they junior albums bro.
That's tough, because nothingwas the same man, look.
So here's the thing.
Now we get into a differentdiscussion, because now we're
not comparing, because wealready agreed that Kendrick's
already here.
When it comes to the three,yeah, as far as just everything.

Speaker 2 (01:16:58):
But it's-.

Speaker 3 (01:16:59):
Now.

Speaker 2 (01:16:59):
Drake and Cole's catalog is similar.
How long it's been like that.
It's been like that, if we'rebeing completely honest.
It's been like that.
He's been the better betweenthe two, the three, since the
beginning.

Speaker 1 (01:17:16):
If you really look back, if you take away the noise
and public perception, if youjust listen to music.

Speaker 2 (01:17:21):
It's been better.
Quality wise, you have to crownthis man as the greatest, even
when it came to the battling Iknew.
I told niggas Straight up Dredon't wanna to see that.
Nigga Don't even ignore him,cold Ignore him, because

(01:17:48):
obviously we see you not willingto go as far as he is.

Speaker 1 (01:17:54):
This ain't cut his grandma off nigga.
Nigga told his grandma Nigga,you gotta go.

Speaker 2 (01:18:00):
So now y'all fighting for In reality, y'all fighting
for two.

Speaker 1 (01:18:05):
In reality.
Yeah, their catalog is moresimilar than Kendrick's compared
to yeah, cause Kendrick reallyhasn't.
You try to find a miss Like.
Ah, you see, like you seen onsocial media, people try to find
a miss.
Yeah, you can't.

Speaker 4 (01:18:18):
Boom, you've seen on social media.
People try to find a miss in asong.
Yeah, you can.
Boom, bop bam.

Speaker 1 (01:18:20):
You finally trying to find something Like with them
two?
Their catalog is more similar.
Yes, you know what I'm saying.
Yes Because think about it nowwe had to struggle between.
Nothing was the same in 2014.
And that's very tough, and butafter that was wrapping his ass

(01:18:42):
off but I will say this afterthat cold shit on his catalogs
though kod um, for your eyesonly um I ain't like for your
eyes only I didn't like it, butI like it more than I liked CLB.

Speaker 2 (01:18:57):
I have to go back and listen to it, Quality-wise,
like I'm not.
Well, now you got to thinkabout Scorpion.
Was Scorpion better than Foryour Eyes Only?

Speaker 1 (01:19:03):
Yeah, I'll take that.

Speaker 2 (01:19:04):
No with Views.
Was Views better than For yourEyes?

Speaker 1 (01:19:06):
Only I feel about Views.
It let me down, but I will takeViews over, for your Eyes Only,
though.
Take views over four yards only, though, but all seasons off
season is better than clb, andfor all the dolls put together,
I agree easily.
Nigga might delete later is oneof my top five albums of the
year, like I agree, bro, oh mygod.

(01:19:30):
Yeah, back half j cole versusback half drake, oh please but
we not.

Speaker 2 (01:19:34):
But okay, one thing though, kid we can't sit here
and make it seem like Drakeain't Coming for shit.

Speaker 1 (01:19:40):
No, I'm talking about the back, I'm just talking
about Past Post Scorpion I.
Just Post Scorpion, that's allI'm saying Like Versus a J Cole
when that catalog Is.
Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
I don't want to get Too off therails.
So if you're saying like post,because a lot of artists
sometimes when they hit acertain album and after that

(01:20:02):
they kind of like whatever, arewe taking 2020 to 2024 Drake or
2020 to 2024 Kanye, I'm takingDrake.
Over Kanye's latest catalogs?

Speaker 2 (01:20:23):
Yeah, Okay, kanye ain't been the same since
Fucking I just know theseallegations With the court
orders.

Speaker 1 (01:20:34):
Niggas owe me an apology.

Speaker 2 (01:20:36):
Life of Pablo.

Speaker 1 (01:20:38):
You don't like the shit With Tyler Sons.

Speaker 2 (01:20:40):
No.

Speaker 1 (01:20:41):
Is it cause the expectation we had with Kanye
Will be first seen To now, oryou ain't like Donda.
Donda was tough man.
Donda is one of my Favoritealbums, dog.
Donda is amazing.
Donda was amazing, fuckingamazing amazing but over God

(01:21:01):
breathes his soul.
That's one of my favorite songsIn the past five years.

Speaker 2 (01:21:04):
Okay, was Donda better than CLB?

Speaker 1 (01:21:06):
Yes, donda was hard.
Donda man man, come on Moonwith Kid Cudi and Don Toliver
Bro.
I, I'm quality over quantitydog, like that happened bro.

Speaker 2 (01:21:23):
For me.
I was a Kanye fan.
I'm a college dropout,graduation, my beautiful, dark,
twisted fantasies.
I didn't too much like Life ofPablo.

Speaker 1 (01:21:41):
Life of Pablo.
Life of Pablo Bro.
I'm taking 2020-2024 Kanye overOver Drake.
I like Yeezus Past five years,I'm taking Kanye Still.

Speaker 2 (01:21:51):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:21:52):
Donda was tough, I personally would take.

Speaker 2 (01:21:55):
I personally would take Drake 2020 Through 2020.

Speaker 1 (01:21:58):
So the past five years you taking Drake over.
Kanye was tough man, I don'tknow.
Votes was one, was I mean shitlike I don't know.
Bro, kanye was tough.
Kanye past five years was toughLike you taking Drake Shit dog

(01:22:19):
that Donda was cool, you know,it killed bias's head Nah it's
not that, niggas, I'm in apology, bro.
After the court orders.
Once I saw that court order Isaid oh nigga, my ranking is
nigga.
This shit is aging.

Speaker 2 (01:22:29):
Hold on.
Before we get into it, let meuse the restroom.

Speaker 1 (01:22:31):
That's fine.
Ah, huh, uh.
No, I think he can hit it.
No, he can hit it though.

Speaker 3 (01:22:52):
How much percent is this?

Speaker 1 (01:23:06):
20 percent, oh I don't know if it's right here.
Not too bad, hey, what's theminute?

Speaker 3 (01:23:13):
Does it?

Speaker 1 (01:23:15):
say minutes on there.
All right, hold on I to put upmy notes real quick, alright,
look at Daryl over here.
Look at.

Speaker 3 (01:23:40):
Daryl, all right.

Speaker 2 (01:23:46):
All right, come on you, good yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:23:50):
Yeah, nah, I'm just saying Niggas don't mean to
apologize, bro With that rankingbro.
That shit aging like fine wine,bro.
After them, court orders, bro,okay, okay, okay.
Let's look back at the rankingsLike real talk.
Let's look back at the rankings.
That shit aging like fine wineAfter them, court orders, bro,
okay, okay.
Let's look back at the rankingsLike real talk.
Let's look back at the rankingsTo now.
Everything that transpired.

Speaker 2 (01:24:07):
Yeah, it's looking bad.

Speaker 1 (01:24:10):
It's looking bad, I ain't gonna lie to you.
So I might be right right now,yeah Now.
But the question is Does heeven give a fuck?

Speaker 2 (01:24:16):
No, I might be right right now, yeah, now.
But the question is, does heeven give a fuck?

Speaker 1 (01:24:21):
No, that's the whole point.
He don't give a fuck to be thegreatest rapper of all time, he
wants to be the greatest artist.

Speaker 2 (01:24:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:24:29):
That's what you know.
What See, I don't want to keeptalking about Drake this whole
time.
I'll move on, because Rememberthat song he did, he?
He was like I'm one hit awayfrom Michael Jackson, beat it,
or whatever.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:24:41):
See, but even Saying that, I feel like Bro, but it's
a different time, bro like.
It's a different.
We talking about you, talkingabout hits, when we start
talking about Wreck-It-Sold youknow what it's like.

Speaker 1 (01:24:57):
Huh, bro, thriller is what you know what it's like.

Speaker 2 (01:25:00):
Huh Bro Thriller is what?
How many times?
The diamond Thriller is themost.

Speaker 1 (01:25:03):
High end silver album Of all time.
Yeah, and you have to go To thestore to buy the album Exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:25:08):
It's a different.
This is a different Ball gameyou know?

Speaker 1 (01:25:11):
Remember when James Harden Became second greatest
Three point shooter Of all timeon the list?
Are we gonna sit here and sayhe's a better three-point
shooter than Ray Allen ReggieMiller?

Speaker 4 (01:25:19):
Clay Thompson.

Speaker 1 (01:25:21):
It's not the same.

Speaker 4 (01:25:23):
It's not the same.
So I'm like, come on bro.

Speaker 1 (01:25:25):
Like okay, you're number two on the list, but are
you a greater shooter than these?
I'm still taking these niggasas shooters over you.
So when it comes to oh I to, oh, I beat michael jackson's hit
records, nigga, you not.
You don't have more qualityhits than michael.
You don't have more qualityhits than god damn who was on.
Who was who else.
He beat the beatles.
Nah, that's not my time.

(01:25:46):
But michael jackson, bro, comeon, that.
That's, that's the whole point.
Like, nah, bro, I don't give afuck about that shit.
So we'll just see where it goesfrom here.
I just don't think it's mixedwith the core order.
I said it it's mixed With thecore order.
It's very mixed, but that'sjust how everything is right now

(01:26:16):
.
Everything has changed.
That's just how everything isright now.
Everything has changed.
But I do want to touch on whaty'all talked about in the group.
I was doing a lot of thingsearlier with Texans.
Real quick, just briefly.
I don't want to talk about toomuch, because there's a pie

(01:26:39):
chart and I think we got afucking break right now.
We got the bye coming up.

Speaker 2 (01:26:45):
Yeah.
I think everybody needs toSimmer down a little bit,
because you gonna put that, yougonna say that Y'all niggas got
problems With flushing toilets.
Bro, you gonna put that yougonna say that, bro, we are
recording right now.
I did flush the toilet, cutthis shit out.

(01:27:11):
Yeah, like bro.
That's how you know.
Darlene, don't fuck with me.

Speaker 1 (01:27:19):
But I want to tell you this, bro All right, I think
everybody's like in thisfucking panic mode type shit,
and people want to blame one,not the other, and all this, all
this, let's just all agree.
There's a pie chart of blame togo through with the Texans
Slowick, the O-line coach, theO-line, and Stroud, and 2-5% is

(01:27:46):
D'Amico.
Okay, I seen what y'all talkingabout earlier.
I seen what y'all talking aboutin the group earlier.
In the group message.
Bro, it is a collective blamethat has to go around.
Let's just call it what it is,bro.
Everybody got to get some typeof blame.

Speaker 2 (01:28:01):
Yeah, you know what I'm saying, like, we got to
remember Hold on, hold on Beforeyou get.
My problem was they was tryingto blame the defense.

Speaker 1 (01:28:09):
Who Well, and they played better than the Titans
last week they let Cheek acorner run for 70 yards.

Speaker 2 (01:28:15):
How much can you expect them to?
They let Cheek Aquano run for70 yards.
How much can you expect them to?
They held it down as much asyou can.
God damn, I know what the fuckyou want.
They scored a touchdown, didn'tthey score a touchdown on
defense?

Speaker 1 (01:28:30):
I forgot.
I know they got a pick.

Speaker 2 (01:28:32):
They got a couple turnovers.
What more can you ask fromthese niggas?
They tired, I know they justhad a game Monday night, I know.

Speaker 1 (01:28:40):
Trust me, I know they handling they business.
So, and that's what I'm saying,I think there's a lot of things
we forget Stroud, second year.
Slowick, second year, tunsil.
Gotta go Get his ass out.

Speaker 2 (01:28:54):
Yeah, we gotta trade his ass Please.

Speaker 1 (01:28:56):
I don't give a fuck.
If it's a rookie, we gottadraft Get rid of him.
Okay, like Him and his past,poor boys can go.

Speaker 2 (01:29:03):
Yeah, cause his Leadership is Minimal.

Speaker 1 (01:29:06):
You, don't get paid that much To Do what the shit
You're doing.

Speaker 2 (01:29:10):
When the last time Y'all seen CJ Stroud Get sacked
and them niggas come and helphim up?

Speaker 1 (01:29:17):
Today, right Today, if they ain't helping up Stroud,
that's a problem.

Speaker 2 (01:29:24):
I done seen him get pushed in the out of bounds and
him arguing with niggas andO-line ain't nowhere to be found
.

Speaker 1 (01:29:32):
Cause the O-line is soft?
Yeah, it's not.
They don't have enough.
They ain't got no TrentWilliams or Deion Dawkins or PA
Sewell Like you know, it's justnot, eh, cookie cutter O-line.
You know, but I will say this,though I'm not expecting them to
Get out the first round,because one of the three teams

(01:29:54):
Is going to be the RavensChargers Steelers.

Speaker 2 (01:29:57):
I think they might get out the first round, but
they're not going no furtherthan the second.

Speaker 1 (01:30:03):
That first going to be.
If they get the first round, Iwon't be shocked.
But that second round, no deal.
It's to the point where nah,that's done.

Speaker 2 (01:30:14):
Yeah, I just think it's a reset.
It needs to be a reset, itneeds to be a reset, it needs to
be a reset, it needs to be areset.
I feel like CJ Stroud.
It's crazy Because even fromthe beginning Of the season we
were all saying the same exactthings Like damn, they're not
connected On all cylinders rightnow.
Even that first game we waslike Mmm who said that, akil

(01:30:42):
right.

Speaker 1 (01:30:43):
I did say 14-3, yo.
I'm thinking, if I'm 10-7,strauss and Slow is rookie year.
And you add Mixon, daniel,hunter, diggs.
I'm like, well, shit, okay.
Well, I'm expecting you to getto three, four losses next year
and you get a first one or twoseed.

(01:31:04):
I agree, I'm expecting that,but the way everything played
out it's like, oh shit, thesedudes here is.

Speaker 2 (01:31:10):
It's a problem but I feel like it's more of a?
Um, I don't think that they allI think.
One thing I do feel I feel likeStephon Diggs Is Is Is Missed.
Like you can tell Stephon Diggsain't around, because I feel
like that O-line His leadershipdog.

(01:31:31):
Yeah, like I don't feel likethey're listening to CJ Shroud.

Speaker 1 (01:31:37):
There's a leader, though, there's the guy going to
get the ride on.
He's that guy.

Speaker 2 (01:31:43):
I feel like when he was in Buffalo they felt a
certain type of way about him,mainly because they didn't want
to hear what he's saying,because Josh Allen was trying to
be that voice and Stephon Diggswas that voice.
So there's an issue, I feellike, with the Texans.
Because of his experience,everybody listened to him in the

(01:32:04):
locker room.

Speaker 1 (01:32:05):
You need a dog on the team.

Speaker 2 (01:32:06):
Yeah, I don't think they listen to CJ Shroud right.

Speaker 1 (01:32:10):
Who's the dog on the offense right now?

Speaker 2 (01:32:11):
Nobody.

Speaker 1 (01:32:12):
Mixon, I mean Mixon.
Mixon is the one that's talking.

Speaker 2 (01:32:16):
Yeah, but I feel like the O-line Mixon ain't going to
get on your ass like Stephon.

Speaker 1 (01:32:21):
Diggs is going to get on your ass.
And I never thought Diggs was adiva, I just thought.
I think that was a bad persona.

Speaker 2 (01:32:28):
That's fine Walk away , then nigga, that's fine.
He ain't never liked Diggs.
Hey, I ain't going to lie toyou.
I pray that that we can resignDiggs Huh.

Speaker 1 (01:32:39):
What.

Speaker 2 (01:32:45):
Darla, where you going.

Speaker 1 (01:32:47):
Dang, he's going to the car.

Speaker 4 (01:32:59):
Well, I mean the experiences of what, like you
said, he's got the experience ofwhat.
Losing a big game.
Well, I mean no, no, no, so, soso it's just more like no, I
just think, like I think CJ dida lot of commercials this summer
, a lot of podcasting with MicahParsons, but I just think, like
I don't think this team needsthat good barking.
They just you like I don'tthink this team needs that

(01:33:19):
barking.
They just I think they'recapable of playing with any team
in the NFL when fully healthy.
But I don't think the answerwas talking.
I just didn't think that thediscipline of an O-line and
everything else.
I don't think it's about thebarking, though, because I just
think, like, if Stephon Diggs isyour leader and your hype guy,

(01:33:40):
I think you're in trouble.
I personally believe thatyou're in trouble because, like,
I can't, you can't tell me aguy that's going to lead me, but
he hasn't led anybody.
You force him because it justlooks like you guys are saying
that, but he forces his way outof Buffalo and it just looks
like Buffalo is playing betterwithout him.

Speaker 1 (01:34:02):
Yeah, josh Adams is better without him.
Josh Adams is better withoutDiggs, because Diggs, exactly.

Speaker 4 (01:34:08):
Because I said, I've been always just a personal
believer that when you're ahigh-caliber receiver like that,
you guys want the ball so much.

Speaker 3 (01:34:16):
That's why I don't believe that it poised
championships this past yearwhen he was last year with.
Buffalo.
He didn't really hear him talklike that last year.
He didn't, but when he got withthe Texans, all right, I'm on
my old third team.
I can't be doing a lot nigga.
I can't be saying wild stuff orbeing having an attitude.

(01:34:36):
I'm going to be out the league,like this Brian was.
I'm going to be out the league,so I'm going to take a leader.
I'm going to be a leader.
When he got traded over thereoffseason, he was working out
with them.
They was hanging out, they werekicking.
They probably seen everything.
They know what he do, hislifestyle.

Speaker 2 (01:35:08):
And he knows how to do the mic's work too.
Yeah, but let me ask you aquestion what percentage of it
do you feel like is more becausehe actually liked being with
the Texans, to where he feltlike, hey, let me coast these
cats up To me?

Speaker 4 (01:35:26):
like Darlene said, I don't think it's picky-picky, I
think it's that he knows that hebetter be on his best behavior,
or he's going to be on the lead.

Speaker 2 (01:35:35):
I ain't going to lie to you.
For some reason, I ain't gonnalie to you.

Speaker 4 (01:35:38):
For some reason, like when you kind of when you get
to a new environment and newthing.
Obviously you've heard aboutwhat he's done in the past, so I
don't know if it's a liking.
I'm not like Would it help?
Yeah, but like I don't thinkit's a coming down like we know
that Diggs is almost out of hisprime years.
So I just, I truly believe.

Speaker 2 (01:36:06):
Okay, let me ask you.
Okay, hold on, hold on.
Has Diggs made his money?
Yeah, he made his money.
Do you think he gives a fuckabout all that extra shit?
I agree yeah he was when, youngMiami, I was trying to have a

(01:36:33):
you on the sideline?

Speaker 1 (01:36:38):
I've never seen him on the sideline yet.
It's probably Aiden Hutchinsonwho was in the box.
What was his year?
What was this?
It was in the suite.
Wait so, wait.
So this has never been on thesideline or in the box at all
with the games.
I don't know.
He's out for a year, aidenHutchinson?
Yeah, aiden Hutchinson's outfor the year until, if they go
to the Super Bowl He'll play.
No, aiden Hutchinson, but wait,diggs, has never been on the

(01:37:05):
sideline for the games.
I don't know.
I ain't seen him Got to ask somequestions, I got to ask some
questions, but I don't think heexpects to come back.

Speaker 2 (01:37:16):
I think he believes that he's going to get the big
bag.
Yeah, I'm not, but I don'tthink he expects to come back.

Speaker 3 (01:37:19):
I think he believes that he's going to get the big
bag.

Speaker 2 (01:37:21):
Yeah, I'm not, which.
I don't think he's going to getthe big bag.

Speaker 1 (01:37:26):
I think they should Depends how the season ends.
Like I said, it's not gettingpast the second round this year.
It's not getting past thesecond round.
Because, you're going to get afourth seed.
So when you're a fourth seed,you're going to play either the
Ravens or Steelers, because oneof them is going to be the fifth
and one is going to be thesecond seed.
Well, it looked like the Ravensin the first round, or the

(01:37:46):
Chargers, right?
My issue is that it's not goingto be Stroud, it's going to be,
more so the O-line.
If you're going against theChargers, that O-line is not
blocking Bo Sam Khalil Mack.
When you're going against theSteelers, you're not blocking
fucking TJ White versus TitusHoward.
Oh God, come on, stop that.
That's not even Two and a halfsacks, nigga, that's the

(01:38:09):
over-under.
Nigga.
Two and a half sacks for TJWhite?
Yeah, that's not happening, bro.
Like no, did you say?
The O-line played good in thelast three games, better, better
, no, because then they fuckedup Today's team game.
We're going to get touchdowns.

Speaker 2 (01:38:24):
They fucked up last game, but we're playing fucking
Jacksonville.

Speaker 1 (01:38:28):
They fucked up against Tennessee.
Tennessee, yeah, tennessee,nico had a touchdown.
They caught up Tunsil 78.
Bring it back.
Legal man downfield Cowboys.
First play of the game Nicotouchdown.
Call it back 78.
Tunsil no, fuck that.

Speaker 2 (01:38:48):
Shit, we lost the Tennessee game off of safety.

Speaker 1 (01:38:54):
They trying to call CJ Shaw Dan Oveloski man.
That's different, bro.
Dan wasn't even close.
Nobody was close to that, niggaCJ Stroud, dan Oveloski man
that's different, bro Dan.
Dan wasn't even.
Nobody was close to that.
Nigga Stroud was gettingpressured.

Speaker 2 (01:39:03):
And had to run out of bounds.
There's not much you can do assoon as you get out the pocket,
somebody right fucking there,they not even blocking the soul.
I seen a nigga.
I don't know what was the gamebefore the Tennessee game Dallas
, not, not Dallas.
It was the game before theTennessee game Dallas, not
Dallas.
It was another game before.

Speaker 1 (01:39:22):
Hold on.

Speaker 2 (01:39:24):
It was one of them games where a motherfucker
literally went through the lineand got to start.

Speaker 1 (01:39:30):
Oh, that was the Packers, the Lions, the Packers
too, oh, the Packers too, withTitus Howard tripped, yeah, this
nigga ain't get touched.
They got some problems.
Bro, it's gonna be someproblems.

Speaker 2 (01:39:42):
And I you know what I'm afraid of, cause this is
Houston activity.
Them niggas ain't gonna do shitOn the O-line.
They gonna bring All themniggas back, cause even when
they Resigned Titus Howard andall them motherfuckers, you
remember when we Sat down withBNME?

Speaker 1 (01:39:59):
Oh, dj yo.

Speaker 2 (01:40:00):
When we sat down with him, I asked him why did they
bring him back, like what's thewhole line gonna do?
He said that's the milliondollar question.
Why would you re-sign thismotherfucker?
We all knew he was weak.

Speaker 1 (01:40:17):
Come on, bro, because you know why they did so.
You know Titus Howard was aBill O'Brien pick and Laramie
Tunsil was a Was a signing theyhad to make Due to letting
Dwayne Brown go Off of some offthe field shit Because of what
he stood off, stood against.

Speaker 2 (01:40:34):
We talking about Bob McNair Exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:40:37):
So they want to Overpay for Larry M Turner, who
didn't deserve To be paid thatamount, because you're paying
him To be A Trent Williams,literally, and he's not that.

Speaker 2 (01:40:48):
Yeah, that's the issue, but I feel like they all
knew that.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:40:56):
Okay, that's a bit, but that's the issue.
Yeah, they're cooked, they'recooked.

Speaker 2 (01:41:04):
Well, let's pray, you gon' see.

Speaker 1 (01:41:08):
Real, do the kill you up from TV.
Rudy Derlo, easy, we out G andNick's Album of the year Top
five.
Oh, you ain't give him thealbum of the year Top five.
Oh you ain't giving them thealbum of the year.
I like Schoolboy Q Blue Loopstill, and I still like Pete
Rock Common's album.
That's a good question.
That's a good one, all right,all right.

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