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So the big question is this, how dorecruiting leaders like us who have
12 to 15 other job responsibilitieswin at this game of recruiting?
How do we build a system that allowsus to recruit effectively in a minimal
amount of time while motivatingrecruits towards meaningful change?
That is the question, and thispodcast will give you the answers.
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My name is Richard Mulligan, andwelcome to Recruiting Conversations.
Hey everybody.
Welcome back to Recruiting Conversations.
I'm Richard Milligan, and todaywe're talking about something that's
absolutely critical if you want torecruit with clarity and confidence.
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How do I showcase a successframework to recruits in a way that
feels actionable, not abstract.
Now, here's what I've learned after yearsof coaching, recruiting leaders across the
country, most of them have a framework.
They've built something, a playbook, a setof best practices, a roadmap for winning.
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But when it comes time to communicate thatto a potential recruit, it falls flat.
It sounds vague, it feels high level, andthe person on the other end walks away
thinking, I'm not sure what I'd actuallybe stepping into if I joined this team.
That's the problem.
The solution is to make your successframework visible and tangible.
Because when a recruit can see thepath, when they can imagine themselves
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on it, when it feels real andproven, andm personal, they lean in.
So let's walk through how to do that.
Step one is simple but overlooked.
You.
You've gotta actuallydocument the framework.
I know that sounds basic, but I can'ttell you how many leaders try to
communicate a recruiting advantagethat lives only in their head.
You can't sell what you can't see, sowrite it down, start with the end result.
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What does success look like on your team?
Is it production growth?
Is it leading a team?
Is it building a personal brand?
Now, reverse engineer it.
What are the steps that get someonefrom where they are now to that outcome?
This is not about fluff.
This is about repeatablebehaviors and systems.
Maybe it's onboarding, maybeit's accountability rhythms.
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Maybe it's marketing support.
Maybe it's a lead strategy.
Get it all out, sketch it on awhiteboard, put it into a doc.
Break it into phases.
You might have a ramp up phase,a development phase, a leadership
phase, each with clear milestones.
Now you've got somethingyou can work with.
Step two is to name it.
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There's something powerful aboutgiving your framework a name.
It takes it from vague andgeneric to branded and memorable.
You could call it the growth engine or theproducer pathway, or the 90 day playbook.
The name creates identity.
It says, this is something we've builtand refined and we stand behind it.
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Now, you're not just saying,we support our people.
You're saying we have a proven systemthat helps people grow, and here's
what it's called, that shift matters.
Step three is to show it visually.
You want to take your written frameworkand turn it into a one-page visual.
You can walk through ina recruiting meeting.
It could be a flow chart, atimeline, a three-part triangle,
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a step-by-step journey.
Keep it clean, keep itsimple, but make it visual.
Here's the thing.
People remember what they see.
They remember structure.
They remember shapes and stages.
That visual reinforces the ideathat what you're offering is real.
Step four is to connect theframework to real stories.
A framework with no proof is just theory.
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A framework with stories becomes evidence.
So pair each phase or elementof your framework with a
success story from your team.
When you talk about onboarding, share howsomeone came in and crushed their first
60 days because they followed your system.
When you talk about branding,share how someone on your team
used your content plan to becomea top voice in their market.
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When you talk about scaling share howone of your leaders went from solo
producer to building a team becausethey followed your leadership Track
stories make your framework come alive.
They move it from concept to context.
Step five is to personalizeit to the recruit.
This is where the magic happens.
When you're walking someone throughyour framework, stop and say, let me
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show you how this would apply to you.
Pull up their productionreference, something they told
you earlier in the conversation.
Say, based on what you've shared, I putyou right here in this phase and here's
how we'd support you from day one.
That moment creates emotional buy-inbecause now it's not a general
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framework, it's their framework.
They see themselves in the journey.
When someone can visualizeprogress under your leadership,
they'll take the next step.
Let me pause here and say this.
A lot of leaders getnervous at this stage.
They think, I'm not a designer.
I don't have a full corporate playbook.
My framework isn't perfect.
Let me be clear.
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It doesn't need to be perfect.
It needs to be real.
It needs to be useful.
It needs to be something you believein because you've seen it work.
Even a rough version that you walk throughon a whiteboard can be more powerful than
a polished brochure that says nothing.
This is about clarity, not complexity.
Hey, quick pause from the conversation.
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If you've been following thispodcast and wanna take the next step
in your recruiting journey, I'vegot something special coming up.
I'll be hosting two live in-personworkshops in August, and you're invited.
The first one will be in Orlando,Florida on August 7th, 2025, and the
second one will be in Denver, Colorado.
On August 21st, 2025, thisisn't some big generic event.
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It's a high impact small group experiencedesigned to help leaders like you build
a scalable recruiting system, sharpenyour leadership messaging, and walk
away with a complete growth playbook.
It's real strategy, realcoaching, and real results.
To reserve your seat head over tofour c recruiting.com/events and
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grab your spot before it fills up.
I'd love to meet you there.
All right, back to the show.
Let's recap this.
First, document your framework, getit out of your head and onto paper.
Second, give it a name, own it, brand it.
Third, make it visual.
Give people somethingto look at and remember.
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Fourth, support it withstories from your team.
Proof creates credibility.
Fifth, personalize itduring the conversation.
Show them where they fitand what happens next.
Do that and you'll turn abstractideas into concrete you'll go
from saying, we develop our peopleto proving exactly how you do it.
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And when you do that, you won't justattract more people, you'll attract the
right people, the ones who want to grow,the ones who want structure, the ones who
are looking for a leader who has a plan.
If that's all for today's episode, gobuild a framework worth following, and
then go show it to someone who needs it.
I'll see you back here soonon recruiting conversations.
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Want more recruiting conversations?
You can register for my weeklyemail@fourcrecruiting.com.
If you need help creating your ownunique recruiting system, you can book
a time with me@bookrichardnow.com.
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