October 6, 2025 • 36 mins
Manifestation isn't broken, you just need better tools.
In this episode, Mia Magik joins me to flip the script on everything you think you know about creating the life you want. Forget the vision boards for a second. Mia's approach is rooted in healing, not just hoping. She explains why manifesting love starts with examining where you're being unloving, and why calling in abundance means looking at your scarcity patterns.
We discuss the physical toll of consuming true crime and drama-filled content, the proven science of water holding intention, and simple kitchen rituals that turn your daily routine into a manifestation practice. Mia also opens up about her own journey through relationship struggles, self-betrayal, and finding her way back to her power through some seriously uncomfortable inner work.
This conversation touches on the Sacred Rage Ritual, why women's anger is revolutionary, and Mia's current explorations with Tantra as a tool for understanding power, surrender, and healing. Whether you're new to manifestation or your practice has gone stale, this episode offers practical wisdom you can use today.
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https://miamagik.com/2025retreatrooms/
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Speaker 01 (00:00):
Welcome to Redesigning Life.
I'm your host, Sabrina Soto,and this is the space where we
have honest conversations aboutpersonal growth, mindset shifts,
and creating a life that feelstruly aligned.
In each episode, I'll talk toexperts in their field who share
their insights to help you stepinto your higher self.
Let's redesign your life fromthe inside out.
Hi, everybody.
(00:23):
Welcome to Redesigning Life.
Today I am welcoming a guestwho embodies magic in a very
approachable way.
Mia Magik, thank you so muchfor joining us.
I am excited to talk to you.
I know you've been on the TodayShow.
You know, you've had you book,you've had your another book,
and now you have a new bookcoming out, The Ritual, October
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28th, right?
Yep.
I have so many things to talkto you about the book because I
was able to get a PDF version,but thank you so much for
joining us.
So happy to be here.
Thanks for having me.
I'm so excited to talk to youbecause I feel like the way that
you approach manifestation isvery much like an intro, you you
can introduce people who havenever done this before to the
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concept.
And your introduction to yourbook, you were talking about
losing touch with your ownpractices and then you finding
your own way back to them.
And I feel I was actuallyhaving a conversation with my
best friend about this too,because I have created so much
magic in my own life.
But then there are some timesthat I get into a rut.
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And my best friend is in a bitof a rut herself at this point.
And it's like I'm trying tocall her back in.
But you you talk about evengoing through it yourself.
Can you can can we discuss thata little bit and what that
looks like?
Speaker 00 (01:41):
Totally.
I think for one thing, when youstart to have greater spiritual
awareness, or when you startrealizing, oh, maybe the world
isn't exactly how I thought itwas because I've been looking at
it through the lens of mytrauma or my pain.
At the beginning, you usuallydo spiritual practice to get
something.
You want to feel more peace, oryou want to feel less stressed,
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or you want to deal with youranxiety and you're doing it
because you know it's going togive you a positive result.
And then at a certain point,you've achieved some of those
positive results.
You've like made some coolmagical things happen.
And then it maybe feels likethe practice isn't as important.
You're like, oh, I've alreadyreached this level.
But then when you reach acertain level and you're up high
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or feeling great, there areinevitably going to be deeper
rooted things or issues that youwant to unwind, that you want
to face, that you want to lookat.
And in order to keep rising, tokeep growing, to keep going
higher and further, you have totouch those darker shadows and
layers.
And that's why we get into arut, is because something else
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that we need to touch on, thatwe need to look at comes up for
us to face off with and to dealwith.
And so for me, that was reallyabout relationship.
And I had been in a partnershipthat in so many ways was so
beautiful and so magical.
And he was such a good man.
And it wasn't right for me fora long period at the end.
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And I knew that and I stayed.
And so the rut that I was inwas like a lot of punishment,
like self-punishment, a lot ofdisappointment in myself, a lot
of confusion.
Why would I bypass my needs?
Why would I not honor what'sbest for me?
And I had to answer thosequestions.
And that the answers to that,oh, I feel unworthy, or I don't
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uh believe I deserve love, orI'm not willing to stand up for
myself in this way.
And as a very direct, powerfulwoman, I usually stand up for
myself.
I don't have a lot of troublewith that.
But then to see cases where Idid really it, it did drag me
down.
It did make me sad.
It did make me feel lesspowerful than I had felt before.
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And so those pieces, when youanswer those questions of the
why, and usually it hassomething to do with your
childhood or your parents, itcan make you feel unmotivated.
It can make you feel just like,oh, lazy or frustrated.
And it's actually the hardestchoice you'll ever make to do
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something about that feeling.
But it is the most worth it.
And the opposite of depressionis not joy and happiness, it's
expression.
Depression means to push down,to like shove down.
And so when we are depressed,we're pushing down something
that needs to be felt.
It needs to be expressed.
And so that is for me like theonly way to get back into the
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motivation of the ritual is tojust do something, like express
something, get up, move yourbody, get into nature.
And, you know, my yoga teacheralways used to say the hardest
part is getting on the mat.
And that's the truth.
It's just getting there,getting to the practice, doing
the thing, getting in the car toget yourself out to the hike.
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That part is challenging, butit is when you show yourself you
can, even when you don't wantto.
Amen.
Mark of resilience.
Speaker 01 (05:13):
Amen.
I mean, I I have the same sortof background with relationships
teaching me, you know, thosedarker sides of myself.
And then it was also difficultfor me because I am a Cuban
Capricorn from New Jersey.
Like I have no, not only am Inot passive aggressive, like I'm
aggressive aggressive.
And so when I was putting upwith BS, that I was way better
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than, I then started shamingmyself like you know better, or
like what are you doing?
But it takes the showing, theit takes doing the things like
what you just said, to show upfor yourself in times that you
don't want to is what brings, Ithink, the biggest it catapults
you to the next part of yourlife of like learning the
lessons.
Would you say that's true?
Speaker 00 (05:56):
Absolutely, of course.
I mean, that's the version ofme that I am now versus the one
that I was a year ago during mybreakup is like night and day.
Like I'm obsessed with myselfnow.
And I was in the depths of myshit a year ago, like really
having to look at things that Ihad managed to sweep under the
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rug, or the very least, like, ohno, I'm I'm not like that.
I'm like this.
Like, I'm so powerful.
And look at me and my businessand all my books and all my cool
stuff.
Like, oh, I'm so good.
Everything's great.
And it's like, oh wow, that canstill be true.
Right.
We don't have to be mutuallyexclusive.
That can still be true that I'mdoing great.
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And again, in order to keeprising higher, we have to keep
dropping deeper.
We have to keep digging lowerinto our psyche and into
ourselves in order to allow thatequal as above, so below, to
keep growing and expanding.
And and my goddess, thank,thank heavens for all of those
painful bullshit moments.
I know getting to meet themmakes you like the most magical
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version of yourself.
Speaker 01 (07:02):
It's funny, about two over two years ago, I was in
Greece and I hit my, I hit myhead really hard.
And um, my friend when I I hadlike a horrible black eye, it
was just a mess.
But for the rest of the trip, Iyou would have thought I was
like a supermodel.
I, for some reason, I just waslike in my power.
And I think it's because Ilooked so crazy that I was like,
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okay, I could just be myself.
My girlfriend said it was likethe opposite of shallow hell,
where I hit my head and now Ithink I'm the hottest thing in
the world.
But my whole life changed afterthat because I just be I became
like more in love with myself.
And it was, and so many things.
And then I ended up meeting myfiance and all this stuff.
But it was like I was in thisin-betweet time of like, I'm
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just gonna be me.
And whoever what likes it likesit, whoever doesn't can go fly
kite.
And I feel like sometimes weneed to go through those really
hard times to get to the nextpart.
I mean, you teach people, youeven had a residency where you
teach people manifestation.
So and I've my whole life, Ibelieve in it so like in every
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vein in my body believes inmanifestation sometimes are
better than others.
But like for somebody who's newto this the ritual, how do you
get started with somebody tomanifest love or money or
whatever the like fill in theblank?
Speaker 00 (08:21):
So there I think the reason why I've had, you know,
you started with the Today Showand the Residency, like the
reason why my work has hit themainstream in the way that it
has, that's a little differentfrom most manifestation
teachers, is because it's abouthealing.
So if I want to manifest morelove, then instead of telling
you to like write a bunch ofaffirmations about how loved you
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are, I want to work with yoursubconscious.
I want to understand where youdon't love yourself.
If you want to call love intoyour life, where are you not
showing up in a loving way thatthat supports like both the
giving and the receiving oflove?
If you want more money, well,where are you being or acting
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out of scarcity?
Even like a big part of mybrand is like I don't support
Amazon because like child slavelabor and cheap, shitty plastic
stuff and like horrible impacton the planet, that's actually
scarcity.
We think like, oh, it'sabundant.
I can just immediately buy thisthing and like it's gonna come
to me tomorrow and it's so fitfast and easy.
But the frequency beneath it isscarcity.
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And so when we're operatingfrom these totally subconscious
and unconscious patterns, we'renot able to manifest the things
with as much clarity.
So for me, I love working withnature because nature, there's
no middleman, there's no pompand circumstance, there's no
inauthenticity.
Nature just is the way that sheis.
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And so the our bodies are theearth, the bones within us are
like the stones in themountains.
The breath is the wind withinus, the trees and plants make it
for us.
We exchange it, we inhale whatthey exhale.
Then we have saliva, we haveblood, those are the waters
within us, the rivers, creeks,and streams of our veins.
And then there is electricity,which we call energy, that is
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the fire inside of us making ourhearts beat, and why we call
what our neurons do when they'refunctioning properly, firing.
And so when we can look at howthese elements and how our
nature is being impacted or not,when we want love, are we
seeking it?
Are we grasping for it?
Do we feel worthy of it?
Oh, okay, well, then how can Ilook at the way that I would
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want to experience love?
And what am I doing that'sopposing that?
What am I doing that's maybepushing that away?
And so to get started for me,what I really did was just
looking at the places that I'mnot living in alignment with
what I want.
So if I want love, where am Inot being loving?
And usually that's withourselves.
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It's in our own minds, it's inthe way that we communicate with
ourselves.
Maybe it is in the way that wepush people off.
You know, I had a crazy animalpsychic session last night about
my cat.
And my cat is like terrified ofeveryone.
And she was like, well, yourcat's really mirroring you.
So like if she's afraid ofeveryone, it's actually this
story about how, because I do,you know, I'm a powerful kind of
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intimidating woman.
And I have this story that likepeople are afraid of me.
And now like my cat is showingit to me.
And so I'm looking at, okay,well, why are people afraid of
me?
What am I doing that make thatmakes people feel, you know, a
little like uh intimidated by meor nervous about the way that I
show up in my intensity, in mypower.
And and that ability to look atthe mirror of your life, and
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that's what my first book isabout, Intuition, is really how
the universe is communicating toyou through the lens of your
reality at all times.
And then Ritual, my book thatcomes out in October, is or is
coming out, my book that iscoming out right now, um, is
really about how do we implementthat?
What do we do with thatinformation, understanding that
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the world is a mirror?
And when you are able to dothat and implement rituals and
practices and ways of being withyourself that understand life
is the mirror, everything you'redoing is manifesting.
All the thoughts.
Everything, all theconversations, the way that you
dress, the way that you decorateyour home, you know, and that's
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really what ritual is all aboutis like everything is a
manifestation practice andritual.
When you acknowledge and areaware of it, that's when you
really take the power back andget to collaborate and co-create
with the universe.
Speaker 01 (12:34):
So when you're listening to this, obviously
I'll have in the notes how youcan get in touch with me and her
book.
But I got a PDF version of yourbook, the advanced copy.
I need the the real one becauseit's actually even a it's a
very pretty book.
Like the cover is so pretty.
I but it's fun.
I also started following you onInstagram.
You talked about something.
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And by the way, the Amazonthing I'd never even thought
about until you just said itright now.
But you were also talking aboutthe things that we listen to.
And I remember like months ago,I stopped doing it, don't
worry, but I was really likelistening to these betrayal
podcasts and like crew truecrime stuff when I would be like
cleaning.
And I realized like it, it'severything that we're doing,
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we're manifesting at all times,good or bad.
And you're right, it's likeeverything's a frequency.
How do you, you know, how doyou think that impacts people?
Can you just explain that?
Because I feel like it's areally powerful concept.
Yeah.
Like the things we're eating,the things we're listening to,
the people we're hanging outwith.
Speaker 00 (13:33):
Yeah, I mean, it's the same as like, okay, if you
eat a cow that has been lockedin a slaughterhouse, has never
touched grass, is being fed allthis weird GMO grain and corn,
as opposed to like what itshould be eating out in a
meadow, and then it's killedwith no consciousness, and it's
just like slapped into styrofoamand plastic and wrapped up and
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shipped wherever, maybe far awayfrom from you or from where it
came from, and then it comes toyou and that's what you eat.
That's very different than acow that grew up on the grass
and on the land that like maybethe owner knows its name, and
then it's gonna get killed inone shot and be butchered right
there on the land, and thenthat's gonna roll to the
farmer's market with you.
The reason why, and that's amuch bigger conversation about
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the food, um, and there's awhole, you know, section and
chapter in which we on that,because that is such a huge and
important part of how we'retending to our bodies.
And if our bodies are the earthand the agriculture systems are
desecrating the earth and thesoil, then naturally they're
gonna do the same thing to us,pun, pun intended.
And the piece with the contentand the true crime is that when
you're listening, even toreality TV, where it's all drama
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and it's all stirred up andit's all like, let's backstab
this person and double crossthis person, you are anchoring
that into your consciousness asthe way that we should be
operating.
This is how we should function.
This is how we treat otherwomen, this is how we deal with
romantic relationships.
This is constant chaos, is thenorm.
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And when it's crime, you arewiring your body for stress, for
adrenaline, like all of thehormones that are meant to run
quickly through your body andthen dissipate, you are
anchoring them into your systemin a consistent way.
And that, you know, thatfeeling when we get when we
watch horror movies where we'relike, because like you know
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something's coming and you'rewaiting for it, you're like, uh,
uh, like that feeling becomeswhat your body is doing all the
time.
And this is also a reason whyso many women have autoimmune
and gut issues, is because thatfeeling, at least for me, like I
really get it in my stomach.
It's like a contraction and aclenching in your stomach.
And that is happening becauseyour gut is not able to process
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this feeling because it's notactually happening to you.
And then there's no ending.
It like rises up and it doesn'tever have anywhere to go.
You're not shaking it off orlike running away.
You're just sitting there inthe fear or in the betrayal.
And it is, you know, it's beenproven again and again, and more
and more studies are coming outthese days about how reality
TV, true crime podcasts, horrormovies, um, even like, you know,
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hip-hop music talking aboutwomen so not all hip-hop, like
that thank goddess, there's somuch epic, sacred hip-hop
nowadays, but like talking aboutwomen as if they are objects
and that drugs and guns andmoney are the most valuable ways
of functioning in our in ourworld.
We're just programmingourselves to believe all that is
true.
And so that was a huge, I mean,beginning in 2012 when I first
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moved to LA, I I read somethingabout that and I just quit all
of it cold turkey.
I was like, cut it out.
If that's I've got to, theworld is scary enough as it is.
I know like she's bad enough asit is.
I don't need to make myselffeel more normal in that state.
I would rather feel the exactopposite.
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And so it is a huge part of ifthat's what we're gonna be
using, you know.
We say we only use 10% of ourbrains.
I think a lot of that, thatother 90% is like lost magical
gifts and supernaturalabilities, sixth and seventh
senses that we've had, thatlike, you know, when you look at
advanced meditators or oryogis, um they have these
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incredible gifts and and what wewould call superpowers.
I think that that's what'saccessible in our minds.
And that is also where a lot ofour manifestation power lives.
So if you're utilizing that 10%of your brain that we've got
access to to focus on thesethings, you're you're doing
yourself a massive disservice,not just mentally, but
physically, emotionally, andspiritually.
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And you're you're preventingyourself from having access to a
greater, grander possibility tobelieve in miracles, to believe
in goodness, to believe inlove, to believe that we are
capable of operating in aharmonious and synergistic way
together.
Speaker 01 (17:55):
It's I can I completely agree.
And I have seen a shift in myown life of cutting that garbage
out.
Um, also, you you were on thetoday show, and I think a big
part of your teaching is therage, the sacred rage ritual,
which I wanted to talk to youabout, something I'd never
thought before.
Like years ago, a few yearsago, I went to the Hoffman
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Institute.
I don't know if you'refamiliar.
And a big part of the week wasdoing a lot of rage work, which
I never do.
I mean, I don't think a lot ofpeople do it.
Yeah.
And I kind of thought it wassilly to be honest.
I'm like, I don't want to hitthis bag with this bat bat.
It's so stupid.
And there was so much emotionthat came out physically of my
body of like crying, and and Iknow that you have your own way
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of doing the rage ritual.
So can you kind of tell people,because it struck a chord with
a lot of people, why do youthink collective rage, rage
needs a voice right now?
Speaker 00 (18:49):
Because rage is what motivates us to do something.
Rage is what incites movements.
You look at the civil rightsmovement, the women's rights
movement, the LGBTQIA plusmovement, like that comes from
rage.
That comes from oppression,that comes from things that
we've been told not to do or notto be.
And finally it reaches a feverpitch and we want to stand up
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and do something about it.
And I think that the biggestissue, and the reason why that
struck such a chord is becauseanger is the one emotion in
general that men are allowed tofeel.
Like it's normal for a man toblow up in a boardroom and like
get crazy and aggressive, butit's the one emotion that women
are really not allowed to feel.
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And oh, she's a psycho orwhatever it is.
And so the men who saw womenhaving the reaction having rage
that, like, oh no, they're notsupposed to feel that.
They got really up in armsbecause a lot of men have never
even seen that.
Or the only time that they seeit is when it is being directed
at them, like they've donesomething wrong and they're
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being punished and they're bad,and this is a reaction to them,
you know, from their partner whohas maybe like suppressed and
suppressed and depressed thatenergy and shoved it down and
not said anything and, you know,violated her own boundaries and
not stood up for herself, andthen it erupts.
And with men, usually, and andwith all people, there is it's
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either numbness, sadness, orrage is kind of like the
accessible first layer of theemotion.
And then underneath that issomething else.
Maybe it's maybe underneath therage is sadness.
Maybe underneath the sadness israge.
Maybe underneath the numbnessis sadness.
And when we for the first time,like you said, some of us have
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never let ourselves feel therage.
And when we do that, like thathas been my experience leading
this ceremony so many times now,is that there is a level of
freedom, there is a level ofsafety that arises.
And when you look at the traumawork that's being done by
people like Gabor Mate and PeterLevine and Basil Vanderkork,
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sometimes a spontaneous eruptionof anger, especially when not
directed at another person likeyour partner or your children,
can actually be the key thatheals the root cause of some of
these autoimmune conditions.
It's just from always when youcommunicate to your body, if you
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have a feeling, whether it'ssadness or rage, doesn't matter
what your gender is, if you havea feeling and you shove it
down, you are communicating toyour body, your mind, and your
spirit, you are not good enough.
You are not worthy of feelingthis.
It is not safe to feel this.
I do not accept you feelingthis.
And if we think about ourselvesas little children, which we
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all are, just like pretendgrown-ups, we're all just like
little tiny babies in these bigmeat suits.
You would never want a child tofeel that way.
And kids are pretty like, no,I'm not, and now I'm sad, and
now I'm happy, and I'm gonnafigure this all out, and I'm
gonna jump on this thing.
And as adults, we do not giveourselves that freedom.
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And so when we communicate toany emotion that it's not safe
and it's not accepted to bepresent, we are causing
dis-ease.
We are causing dissonance inour bodies.
And we are creating a patternor a like stuck energy because
it's not getting up and out.
And so, this ritual, I know itstruck a chord because of how
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many of us don't feel safe tofeel our feelings.
And I just wanted to create, Imean, I could never have
foreseen the like billions ofviews and and all of the crazy
responses that it got.
Um, but I believewholeheartedly in it.
And it's why we do it at all ofmy retreats and why it's such a
a pillar and an anchor pointfor my work because it does free
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you.
Yeah.
Because rage is a cage, emotionis a cage that we can trap
ourselves in and think that thedoor is locked, but we hold the
key.
And so we give ourselvespermission to let that energy be
free.
There, there is more space forlove, for beauty, for magic on
the other side that is that thatold total, like can be a
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massive amount of energy thathas never been expressed and it
can be liberated.
And then all of a sudden, thatspace can be filled with
something new.
Speaker 01 (23:24):
I la I had to put my dog down two years ago and or
no, a year ago, my gosh, it wasa year ago.
And I was in such grief, and Iwas driving one day and I drove
to like a mountaintop and I gotout of the car, and I I just I
had to get out and scream.
And thank God, Mia, nobody wasaround because they would have
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been like, somebody called 911.
But I was just like outsidejust screaming, and I felt such
like a weightlift off of meafter I let go of all of that
grief.
And I think that you're right.
Like, we don't have practiceslike that.
We're not, we're told not to,you know, it's just wild.
And I feel like you're, youknow, it is such a it's so
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therapeutic.
Speaker 00 (24:09):
Yeah.
And it has, it's proven now towhen you're doing it, not just,
you know, we go through a wholeprocess, we we walk through your
history and your life and allthe moments you shut yourself
down or didn't stand up foryourself.
And then you're not doing it atanyone.
The earth is literally designedto compost and alchemize.
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She takes dead animals androtten fruit and bones like she
composts and alchemizes.
And that's why we do it innature.
That's why we bring it to herbecause she knows what to do
with that.
And she, when you look atplants and trees and nature,
everything that falls from them,their old needles, their old
fruits, the old seeds, that'swhat then becomes like the black
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gold soil, the mostnutrient-dense, rich food and
fuel for the future.
That's what they they nourishthemselves with in the days that
come.
And so I really feel that forthis ritual.
It's it's about how can I usethis?
How can I let what falls away,what comes out of me, whether
it's my tears or my screaming,to fuel my future and my next
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chapter and what's coming.
Speaker 01 (25:17):
In the book, you also share a practice like the
kitchen witchery.
Can you give a glimpse of likean everyday ritual that
listeners can begin todaylistening to this?
Speaker 00 (25:28):
Yeah, so water holds memory.
You can freeze water with apicture or and it will stay
there.
Water is so much more sentientand magical than we know.
So anytime you're drinkinganything with water, whether
it's coffee or boiling pasta ormaking a cup of tea or a cacao
or a matcha, whatever it is, youcan program your water.
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You can send intention andenergy into your water.
You can tell it things.
Speaker 01 (25:55):
You can Okay, so like walk somebody through doing
this, like for real.
Speaker 00 (25:59):
Okay, so I've got my matcha right here.
So I started with a littlewater and some almond milk, and
then I put all the little thingsin.
And so either while it'sfrothing, while you're stirring
it, while you're puttingeverything in, you can just,
whatever it is for the day.
You're like, today I am goingto feel so open and so
surrendered and so trusting, andI feel so grateful.
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It doesn't matter what it is,or you're like, today is gonna
be the most full power, deepmagic.
I'm gonna experience a miracletoday.
Something is gonna happen whereI get an undeniable sign from
God and I am gonna feel so heldand so supported.
Like you get to decide whatenergy you want to put into it.
And then, of course, when youlook back farther, all of our
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before J.D.
Rockefeller, the oil magnate,took over the American Medical
Association and utilized hismassive financial influence to
propagandize the entire naturalholistic medicine industry and
make pharmaceuticals out of oil,which is what pressed pills are
all made out of aspetrochemicals, rather than our
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pharmacopoeia, which comes fromthe earth.
Before the 1920s, every bit ofour medicine came from plants
andor animals.
You know, there's a lot ofChinese medicine with like
oyster shells and pearls andpangolin scales and things like
that, elephant tusk, right?
Um, but everything used to comefrom nature.
So every herb, every plant haseither a magical or a medicinal
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signature or remedy to it.
Like my cat is having digestiveissues, and it's like slippery
elm bark and psilium husk andmarshmallow root, you know, it's
easy things.
These are like beautifulnatural remedies that I can give
her that I take myself as well.
And so that is also a reallybeautiful practice, is just to
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know the frequency of the herbsthat you're putting on your
steak, in your eggs, on yoursalad, right?
And and understanding, oh,okay, this turmeric that I'm
gonna put into whatever it is,my oatmeal in the morning, that
has anti-inflammatoryproperties.
That's gonna like actually helpmy body soothe and settle.
Can I just be present and awareof with that rather than just,
(28:12):
you know, kind of unconsciouslysprinkling it on?
And that's, you know, that'swhy we say a woman's place is in
the kitchen.
That's why cauldrons have beenassociated with witches since
the beginning of time, isbecause the kitchen was the
original place where ourmedicine was made.
Speaker 01 (28:26):
Yeah.
I I am so fascinated by justfood healing us and food being
medicine.
I just love the idea, because Ithink, you know, there's some
people who are listening whojust like don't cook or just
don't have the time.
But I think it's a simplepractice as drinking your water
or coffee in the morning andjust putting an intention into
it is something anybody could dono matter what.
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And even if you think it'sridiculous, just do it anyway
and see how it works.
Speaker 00 (28:51):
And just look up like um hydrography or Dr.
Emoto's work on the watermolecules.
Like there, it's you can't,it's science.
You know, it's not woo-woo,it's not like out there, it's
science.
And and water is, you know,we've had a different
relationship to water in themodern era because we're
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filtering it and piping itthrough, you know, but all of
our water used to be living wildwater.
You know, we'd get it fromsprings and rivers and creeks.
And um, and so we have adifferent relationship to water
now, but but it's it is anincredibly magical element.
And, you know, look at what theearth does, right?
She grows all these differentplants and these seeds, and like
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this tiny little cone canbecome a redwood tree.
And, you know, there's all thisintelligence and information.
And if you watch a fire dance,like we can't, when you sit
around a fire, like we juststare at it because it's
genetically within us as aspecies.
And air we can't see, but youknow, has a lot of power even in
its invisibility.
And so we we kind of forgetthat water has magical qualities
(29:55):
to it.
Um, but it does, and it, youknow, steam and vapor and mist
and fog and ice and snow.
I mean, have you ever looked ata snowflake?
Speaker 01 (30:02):
Because I know it's for anyone listening the study,
and I'm just gonna butcher it,but I'm just gonna give you the
Cliff Notes version.
But there was a professor thathad his students talk poorly to
some water and say nice thingsto other water, and they had put
it under a microscope and theysaw that it actually broke down
the molecules of the water insuch a bad way of the the the
(30:24):
water that was being talked downto.
I mean, if that's like the veryshort version, but it was, you
could see scientifically that itdid change the molecular
structure of that water.
So all that to say, like itisn't necessarily woo-woo, it is
real.
Anyway, I diverse, I digress.
Um, in which will you ask uswhat ignites my divine work to
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ask yourself that?
So when when asking yourself,like I want to ask you, like
right now in your life, Mia,like what is igniting you?
Like what's next?
What's what's giving your soula hug right now?
Speaker 00 (31:03):
Oh, that's such a great question.
Well, to be honest, right nowI'm having a new layer and level
of sexual awakening that isreally igniting me.
I've been studying Tantra forover 10 years.
Uh, I'm actually at the templewhere my one of my best friends,
Layla Martin, OG high taunticpriestess, um lives.
(31:24):
And I've been studying with herand sitting with her and doing
internal sexual practice for forsuch a long time.
And I've finally found like awilling playmate and participant
that is initiating me andallowing me to initiate them in
a really big way.
And so there's a lot of newcodes.
Um, I've also studied how weuse our masculine and feminine,
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our dominance or submission,our, you know, like power over
or like capacity to influencethe world and the universe,
right?
Sort of like what we're talkingabout with manifestation, and
then also our necessity tosurrender and to trust and to
let go and to not try and uhadjust reality and just let it
be what it is.
(32:11):
And so for me, yeah, have a anew program called Sex Witch
coming up and out that is likebubbling uh into my cauldron
right now that feels reallyexciting and I've gotten to
learn how to like be my owndaddy in a whole new way and I
love that have a part in WitchWill about like being my own
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sugar daddy because I I've neverhad a man be able to take care
of me financially.
I've always been the one who isdoing that.
And so that's been a reallybig, powerful awakening for me
that has been um, you know,there's only so much practice
you can do on your own beforeyou you have to find someone
else to do it with.
And um, yeah, in mypartnership, that was I just
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didn't have a willing playmate.
And so it's been, it's been sohealing to find masculine
presence that is like so downfor every ounce of my magic and
my power and is not afraid of meand can meet me in all the
realms.
And in that vein, there is alot of new creativity coming
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forth for me where I'm notfeeling the same level of desire
to like be the one front facingwith business.
And so I've been working with abunch of epic entrepreneurs to
give them the skill set and theback-end sort of creative
direction of what I did for myown business and how to build,
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you know, a really successfulspiritual company and how to
create an authentic personalbrand.
And it's been really fun to bekind of like the secret weapon
in the back pocket and be behindthe scenes and be orchestrating
something where it's not aboutme and it's not, I don't have
like the numbers and thefollowers and the launch
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strategies, like aren't anythingthat I have to sort of identify
with personally.
Yeah.
Um, so those, those are kind oflike the two big things that
have been really fun for me.
And and it is kind of like justworking with that inner daddy
and mommy energy um in a wholenew way that's been so sweet and
(34:18):
actually really healing for meas well.
I love that.
Okay.
Speaker 01 (34:22):
Um finally, if you could, I wrote this down.
I wanted to ask you if youcould gift one collective ritual
to the entire world to do.
Because you have a lot.
So if you could just give one,what would it be?
Speaker 00 (34:37):
And they can't fight me and they can't argue, they
just have to do it, they're justcompelled to do it.
Yeah.
But I would want every singleperson on earth to go out into
the woods, into a beautiful,peaceful, pristine forest and
lay face down on the ground forat least an hour.
(35:00):
I like to do like two, three,four hours, no phone, no getting
up, no distractions, justliterally coming home to nature.
And the way that you discoveryour true nature in that, it's
hard.
Trust me.
I've done it where you're like,oh, I could get up now.
Oh, I'm finished, like, oh,it's fine.
Okay, I've been here for awhile.
Like, oh, I wonder how muchtime it's been.
(35:21):
Like, oh, I should check myphone.
What if someone's coming?
Oh, what if the, you know, likethere's a million different
reasons to get up.
Yeah.
And when we don't, and when westay, and when we allow the
stillness of the natural worldand the true frequency of
sentient aliveness that ourplanet carries when we get out
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off the grid, away from theinternet and all the
distractions and all the noise.
There is nothing more healing.
There is nothing moreactivating.
There is nothing moretransformative than that.
That single simplest.
You don't have to do anything.
And that ritual has been thesingle most powerful of any I've
ever done in my life.
Speaker 01 (36:04):
You are amazing.
I'm so happy we did this.
I hope that we get to hug eachother soon in person.
I don't know if you're going toSpain, but I might see you
somewhere around the world.
I love that.
Now I'll be back in LA soonenough.
I'm always there.
Oh my gosh, I can't wait.
I cannot wait to also get myhands on your physical book.
Um, but everybody, I'll put itin the notes how you can get in
touch with Mia, not only for herretreats, but the book.
(36:26):
She also does one on one.
She's help helping othersoulful entrepreneurs as well.
So thank you so much.
Speaker 00 (36:33):
Yes, my pleasure.
Thanks so much for having me,Sabrina.
Welcome to Redesigning Life.
I'm your host, Sabrina Soto,and this is the space where we
have honest conversations aboutpersonal growth, mindset shifts,
and creating a life that feelstruly aligned.
In each episode, I'll talk toexperts in their field who share
their insights to help you stepinto your higher self.
Let's redesign your life fromthe inside out.
Hi, everybody.
(00:23):
Welcome to Redesigning Life.
Today I am welcoming a guestwho embodies magic in a very
approachable way.
Mia Magik, thank you so muchfor joining us.
I am excited to talk to you.
I know you've been on the TodayShow.
You know, you've had you book,you've had your another book,
and now you have a new bookcoming out, The Ritual, October
(00:45):
28th, right?
Yep.
I have so many things to talkto you about the book because I
was able to get a PDF version,but thank you so much for
joining us.
So happy to be here.
Thanks for having me.
I'm so excited to talk to youbecause I feel like the way that
you approach manifestation isvery much like an intro, you you
can introduce people who havenever done this before to the
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concept.
And your introduction to yourbook, you were talking about
losing touch with your ownpractices and then you finding
your own way back to them.
And I feel I was actuallyhaving a conversation with my
best friend about this too,because I have created so much
magic in my own life.
But then there are some timesthat I get into a rut.
(01:27):
And my best friend is in a bitof a rut herself at this point.
And it's like I'm trying tocall her back in.
But you you talk about evengoing through it yourself.
Can you can can we discuss thata little bit and what that
looks like?
Speaker 00 (01:41):
Totally.
I think for one thing, when youstart to have greater spiritual
awareness, or when you startrealizing, oh, maybe the world
isn't exactly how I thought itwas because I've been looking at
it through the lens of mytrauma or my pain.
At the beginning, you usuallydo spiritual practice to get
something.
You want to feel more peace, oryou want to feel less stressed,
(02:05):
or you want to deal with youranxiety and you're doing it
because you know it's going togive you a positive result.
And then at a certain point,you've achieved some of those
positive results.
You've like made some coolmagical things happen.
And then it maybe feels likethe practice isn't as important.
You're like, oh, I've alreadyreached this level.
But then when you reach acertain level and you're up high
(02:26):
or feeling great, there areinevitably going to be deeper
rooted things or issues that youwant to unwind, that you want
to face, that you want to lookat.
And in order to keep rising, tokeep growing, to keep going
higher and further, you have totouch those darker shadows and
layers.
And that's why we get into arut, is because something else
(02:50):
that we need to touch on, thatwe need to look at comes up for
us to face off with and to dealwith.
And so for me, that was reallyabout relationship.
And I had been in a partnershipthat in so many ways was so
beautiful and so magical.
And he was such a good man.
And it wasn't right for me fora long period at the end.
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And I knew that and I stayed.
And so the rut that I was inwas like a lot of punishment,
like self-punishment, a lot ofdisappointment in myself, a lot
of confusion.
Why would I bypass my needs?
Why would I not honor what'sbest for me?
And I had to answer thosequestions.
And that the answers to that,oh, I feel unworthy, or I don't
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uh believe I deserve love, orI'm not willing to stand up for
myself in this way.
And as a very direct, powerfulwoman, I usually stand up for
myself.
I don't have a lot of troublewith that.
But then to see cases where Idid really it, it did drag me
down.
It did make me sad.
It did make me feel lesspowerful than I had felt before.
(03:58):
And so those pieces, when youanswer those questions of the
why, and usually it hassomething to do with your
childhood or your parents, itcan make you feel unmotivated.
It can make you feel just like,oh, lazy or frustrated.
And it's actually the hardestchoice you'll ever make to do
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something about that feeling.
But it is the most worth it.
And the opposite of depressionis not joy and happiness, it's
expression.
Depression means to push down,to like shove down.
And so when we are depressed,we're pushing down something
that needs to be felt.
It needs to be expressed.
And so that is for me like theonly way to get back into the
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motivation of the ritual is tojust do something, like express
something, get up, move yourbody, get into nature.
And, you know, my yoga teacheralways used to say the hardest
part is getting on the mat.
And that's the truth.
It's just getting there,getting to the practice, doing
the thing, getting in the car toget yourself out to the hike.
(05:04):
That part is challenging, butit is when you show yourself you
can, even when you don't wantto.
Amen.
Mark of resilience.
Speaker 01 (05:13):
Amen.
I mean, I I have the same sortof background with relationships
teaching me, you know, thosedarker sides of myself.
And then it was also difficultfor me because I am a Cuban
Capricorn from New Jersey.
Like I have no, not only am Inot passive aggressive, like I'm
aggressive aggressive.
And so when I was putting upwith BS, that I was way better
(05:35):
than, I then started shamingmyself like you know better, or
like what are you doing?
But it takes the showing, theit takes doing the things like
what you just said, to show upfor yourself in times that you
don't want to is what brings, Ithink, the biggest it catapults
you to the next part of yourlife of like learning the
lessons.
Would you say that's true?
Speaker 00 (05:56):
Absolutely, of course.
I mean, that's the version ofme that I am now versus the one
that I was a year ago during mybreakup is like night and day.
Like I'm obsessed with myselfnow.
And I was in the depths of myshit a year ago, like really
having to look at things that Ihad managed to sweep under the
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rug, or the very least, like, ohno, I'm I'm not like that.
I'm like this.
Like, I'm so powerful.
And look at me and my businessand all my books and all my cool
stuff.
Like, oh, I'm so good.
Everything's great.
And it's like, oh wow, that canstill be true.
Right.
We don't have to be mutuallyexclusive.
That can still be true that I'mdoing great.
(06:38):
And again, in order to keeprising higher, we have to keep
dropping deeper.
We have to keep digging lowerinto our psyche and into
ourselves in order to allow thatequal as above, so below, to
keep growing and expanding.
And and my goddess, thank,thank heavens for all of those
painful bullshit moments.
I know getting to meet themmakes you like the most magical
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version of yourself.
Speaker 01 (07:02):
It's funny, about two over two years ago, I was in
Greece and I hit my, I hit myhead really hard.
And um, my friend when I I hadlike a horrible black eye, it
was just a mess.
But for the rest of the trip, Iyou would have thought I was
like a supermodel.
I, for some reason, I just waslike in my power.
And I think it's because Ilooked so crazy that I was like,
(07:24):
okay, I could just be myself.
My girlfriend said it was likethe opposite of shallow hell,
where I hit my head and now Ithink I'm the hottest thing in
the world.
But my whole life changed afterthat because I just be I became
like more in love with myself.
And it was, and so many things.
And then I ended up meeting myfiance and all this stuff.
But it was like I was in thisin-betweet time of like, I'm
(07:45):
just gonna be me.
And whoever what likes it likesit, whoever doesn't can go fly
kite.
And I feel like sometimes weneed to go through those really
hard times to get to the nextpart.
I mean, you teach people, youeven had a residency where you
teach people manifestation.
So and I've my whole life, Ibelieve in it so like in every
(08:06):
vein in my body believes inmanifestation sometimes are
better than others.
But like for somebody who's newto this the ritual, how do you
get started with somebody tomanifest love or money or
whatever the like fill in theblank?
Speaker 00 (08:21):
So there I think the reason why I've had, you know,
you started with the Today Showand the Residency, like the
reason why my work has hit themainstream in the way that it
has, that's a little differentfrom most manifestation
teachers, is because it's abouthealing.
So if I want to manifest morelove, then instead of telling
you to like write a bunch ofaffirmations about how loved you
(08:42):
are, I want to work with yoursubconscious.
I want to understand where youdon't love yourself.
If you want to call love intoyour life, where are you not
showing up in a loving way thatthat supports like both the
giving and the receiving oflove?
If you want more money, well,where are you being or acting
(09:02):
out of scarcity?
Even like a big part of mybrand is like I don't support
Amazon because like child slavelabor and cheap, shitty plastic
stuff and like horrible impacton the planet, that's actually
scarcity.
We think like, oh, it'sabundant.
I can just immediately buy thisthing and like it's gonna come
to me tomorrow and it's so fitfast and easy.
But the frequency beneath it isscarcity.
(09:23):
And so when we're operatingfrom these totally subconscious
and unconscious patterns, we'renot able to manifest the things
with as much clarity.
So for me, I love working withnature because nature, there's
no middleman, there's no pompand circumstance, there's no
inauthenticity.
Nature just is the way that sheis.
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And so the our bodies are theearth, the bones within us are
like the stones in themountains.
The breath is the wind withinus, the trees and plants make it
for us.
We exchange it, we inhale whatthey exhale.
Then we have saliva, we haveblood, those are the waters
within us, the rivers, creeks,and streams of our veins.
And then there is electricity,which we call energy, that is
(10:07):
the fire inside of us making ourhearts beat, and why we call
what our neurons do when they'refunctioning properly, firing.
And so when we can look at howthese elements and how our
nature is being impacted or not,when we want love, are we
seeking it?
Are we grasping for it?
Do we feel worthy of it?
Oh, okay, well, then how can Ilook at the way that I would
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want to experience love?
And what am I doing that'sopposing that?
What am I doing that's maybepushing that away?
And so to get started for me,what I really did was just
looking at the places that I'mnot living in alignment with
what I want.
So if I want love, where am Inot being loving?
And usually that's withourselves.
(10:52):
It's in our own minds, it's inthe way that we communicate with
ourselves.
Maybe it is in the way that wepush people off.
You know, I had a crazy animalpsychic session last night about
my cat.
And my cat is like terrified ofeveryone.
And she was like, well, yourcat's really mirroring you.
So like if she's afraid ofeveryone, it's actually this
story about how, because I do,you know, I'm a powerful kind of
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intimidating woman.
And I have this story that likepeople are afraid of me.
And now like my cat is showingit to me.
And so I'm looking at, okay,well, why are people afraid of
me?
What am I doing that make thatmakes people feel, you know, a
little like uh intimidated by meor nervous about the way that I
show up in my intensity, in mypower.
And and that ability to look atthe mirror of your life, and
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that's what my first book isabout, Intuition, is really how
the universe is communicating toyou through the lens of your
reality at all times.
And then Ritual, my book thatcomes out in October, is or is
coming out, my book that iscoming out right now, um, is
really about how do we implementthat?
What do we do with thatinformation, understanding that
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the world is a mirror?
And when you are able to dothat and implement rituals and
practices and ways of being withyourself that understand life
is the mirror, everything you'redoing is manifesting.
All the thoughts.
Everything, all theconversations, the way that you
dress, the way that you decorateyour home, you know, and that's
(12:20):
really what ritual is all aboutis like everything is a
manifestation practice andritual.
When you acknowledge and areaware of it, that's when you
really take the power back andget to collaborate and co-create
with the universe.
Speaker 01 (12:34):
So when you're listening to this, obviously
I'll have in the notes how youcan get in touch with me and her
book.
But I got a PDF version of yourbook, the advanced copy.
I need the the real one becauseit's actually even a it's a
very pretty book.
Like the cover is so pretty.
I but it's fun.
I also started following you onInstagram.
You talked about something.
(12:54):
And by the way, the Amazonthing I'd never even thought
about until you just said itright now.
But you were also talking aboutthe things that we listen to.
And I remember like months ago,I stopped doing it, don't
worry, but I was really likelistening to these betrayal
podcasts and like crew truecrime stuff when I would be like
cleaning.
And I realized like it, it'severything that we're doing,
(13:16):
we're manifesting at all times,good or bad.
And you're right, it's likeeverything's a frequency.
How do you, you know, how doyou think that impacts people?
Can you just explain that?
Because I feel like it's areally powerful concept.
Yeah.
Like the things we're eating,the things we're listening to,
the people we're hanging outwith.
Speaker 00 (13:33):
Yeah, I mean, it's the same as like, okay, if you
eat a cow that has been lockedin a slaughterhouse, has never
touched grass, is being fed allthis weird GMO grain and corn,
as opposed to like what itshould be eating out in a
meadow, and then it's killedwith no consciousness, and it's
just like slapped into styrofoamand plastic and wrapped up and
(13:54):
shipped wherever, maybe far awayfrom from you or from where it
came from, and then it comes toyou and that's what you eat.
That's very different than acow that grew up on the grass
and on the land that like maybethe owner knows its name, and
then it's gonna get killed inone shot and be butchered right
there on the land, and thenthat's gonna roll to the
farmer's market with you.
The reason why, and that's amuch bigger conversation about
(14:16):
the food, um, and there's awhole, you know, section and
chapter in which we on that,because that is such a huge and
important part of how we'retending to our bodies.
And if our bodies are the earthand the agriculture systems are
desecrating the earth and thesoil, then naturally they're
gonna do the same thing to us,pun, pun intended.
And the piece with the contentand the true crime is that when
you're listening, even toreality TV, where it's all drama
(14:39):
and it's all stirred up andit's all like, let's backstab
this person and double crossthis person, you are anchoring
that into your consciousness asthe way that we should be
operating.
This is how we should function.
This is how we treat otherwomen, this is how we deal with
romantic relationships.
This is constant chaos, is thenorm.
(15:02):
And when it's crime, you arewiring your body for stress, for
adrenaline, like all of thehormones that are meant to run
quickly through your body andthen dissipate, you are
anchoring them into your systemin a consistent way.
And that, you know, thatfeeling when we get when we
watch horror movies where we'relike, because like you know
(15:24):
something's coming and you'rewaiting for it, you're like, uh,
uh, like that feeling becomeswhat your body is doing all the
time.
And this is also a reason whyso many women have autoimmune
and gut issues, is because thatfeeling, at least for me, like I
really get it in my stomach.
It's like a contraction and aclenching in your stomach.
And that is happening becauseyour gut is not able to process
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this feeling because it's notactually happening to you.
And then there's no ending.
It like rises up and it doesn'tever have anywhere to go.
You're not shaking it off orlike running away.
You're just sitting there inthe fear or in the betrayal.
And it is, you know, it's beenproven again and again, and more
and more studies are coming outthese days about how reality
TV, true crime podcasts, horrormovies, um, even like, you know,
(16:14):
hip-hop music talking aboutwomen so not all hip-hop, like
that thank goddess, there's somuch epic, sacred hip-hop
nowadays, but like talking aboutwomen as if they are objects
and that drugs and guns andmoney are the most valuable ways
of functioning in our in ourworld.
We're just programmingourselves to believe all that is
true.
And so that was a huge, I mean,beginning in 2012 when I first
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moved to LA, I I read somethingabout that and I just quit all
of it cold turkey.
I was like, cut it out.
If that's I've got to, theworld is scary enough as it is.
I know like she's bad enough asit is.
I don't need to make myselffeel more normal in that state.
I would rather feel the exactopposite.
(16:58):
And so it is a huge part of ifthat's what we're gonna be
using, you know.
We say we only use 10% of ourbrains.
I think a lot of that, thatother 90% is like lost magical
gifts and supernaturalabilities, sixth and seventh
senses that we've had, thatlike, you know, when you look at
advanced meditators or oryogis, um they have these
(17:19):
incredible gifts and and what wewould call superpowers.
I think that that's what'saccessible in our minds.
And that is also where a lot ofour manifestation power lives.
So if you're utilizing that 10%of your brain that we've got
access to to focus on thesethings, you're you're doing
yourself a massive disservice,not just mentally, but
physically, emotionally, andspiritually.
(17:40):
And you're you're preventingyourself from having access to a
greater, grander possibility tobelieve in miracles, to believe
in goodness, to believe inlove, to believe that we are
capable of operating in aharmonious and synergistic way
together.
Speaker 01 (17:55):
It's I can I completely agree.
And I have seen a shift in myown life of cutting that garbage
out.
Um, also, you you were on thetoday show, and I think a big
part of your teaching is therage, the sacred rage ritual,
which I wanted to talk to youabout, something I'd never
thought before.
Like years ago, a few yearsago, I went to the Hoffman
(18:15):
Institute.
I don't know if you'refamiliar.
And a big part of the week wasdoing a lot of rage work, which
I never do.
I mean, I don't think a lot ofpeople do it.
Yeah.
And I kind of thought it wassilly to be honest.
I'm like, I don't want to hitthis bag with this bat bat.
It's so stupid.
And there was so much emotionthat came out physically of my
body of like crying, and and Iknow that you have your own way
(18:39):
of doing the rage ritual.
So can you kind of tell people,because it struck a chord with
a lot of people, why do youthink collective rage, rage
needs a voice right now?
Speaker 00 (18:49):
Because rage is what motivates us to do something.
Rage is what incites movements.
You look at the civil rightsmovement, the women's rights
movement, the LGBTQIA plusmovement, like that comes from
rage.
That comes from oppression,that comes from things that
we've been told not to do or notto be.
And finally it reaches a feverpitch and we want to stand up
(19:12):
and do something about it.
And I think that the biggestissue, and the reason why that
struck such a chord is becauseanger is the one emotion in
general that men are allowed tofeel.
Like it's normal for a man toblow up in a boardroom and like
get crazy and aggressive, butit's the one emotion that women
are really not allowed to feel.
(19:33):
And oh, she's a psycho orwhatever it is.
And so the men who saw womenhaving the reaction having rage
that, like, oh no, they're notsupposed to feel that.
They got really up in armsbecause a lot of men have never
even seen that.
Or the only time that they seeit is when it is being directed
at them, like they've donesomething wrong and they're
(19:54):
being punished and they're bad,and this is a reaction to them,
you know, from their partner whohas maybe like suppressed and
suppressed and depressed thatenergy and shoved it down and
not said anything and, you know,violated her own boundaries and
not stood up for herself, andthen it erupts.
And with men, usually, and andwith all people, there is it's
(20:17):
either numbness, sadness, orrage is kind of like the
accessible first layer of theemotion.
And then underneath that issomething else.
Maybe it's maybe underneath therage is sadness.
Maybe underneath the sadness israge.
Maybe underneath the numbnessis sadness.
And when we for the first time,like you said, some of us have
(20:41):
never let ourselves feel therage.
And when we do that, like thathas been my experience leading
this ceremony so many times now,is that there is a level of
freedom, there is a level ofsafety that arises.
And when you look at the traumawork that's being done by
people like Gabor Mate and PeterLevine and Basil Vanderkork,
(21:01):
sometimes a spontaneous eruptionof anger, especially when not
directed at another person likeyour partner or your children,
can actually be the key thatheals the root cause of some of
these autoimmune conditions.
It's just from always when youcommunicate to your body, if you
(21:22):
have a feeling, whether it'ssadness or rage, doesn't matter
what your gender is, if you havea feeling and you shove it
down, you are communicating toyour body, your mind, and your
spirit, you are not good enough.
You are not worthy of feelingthis.
It is not safe to feel this.
I do not accept you feelingthis.
And if we think about ourselvesas little children, which we
(21:44):
all are, just like pretendgrown-ups, we're all just like
little tiny babies in these bigmeat suits.
You would never want a child tofeel that way.
And kids are pretty like, no,I'm not, and now I'm sad, and
now I'm happy, and I'm gonnafigure this all out, and I'm
gonna jump on this thing.
And as adults, we do not giveourselves that freedom.
(22:06):
And so when we communicate toany emotion that it's not safe
and it's not accepted to bepresent, we are causing
dis-ease.
We are causing dissonance inour bodies.
And we are creating a patternor a like stuck energy because
it's not getting up and out.
And so, this ritual, I know itstruck a chord because of how
(22:29):
many of us don't feel safe tofeel our feelings.
And I just wanted to create, Imean, I could never have
foreseen the like billions ofviews and and all of the crazy
responses that it got.
Um, but I believewholeheartedly in it.
And it's why we do it at all ofmy retreats and why it's such a
a pillar and an anchor pointfor my work because it does free
(22:54):
you.
Yeah.
Because rage is a cage, emotionis a cage that we can trap
ourselves in and think that thedoor is locked, but we hold the
key.
And so we give ourselvespermission to let that energy be
free.
There, there is more space forlove, for beauty, for magic on
the other side that is that thatold total, like can be a
(23:14):
massive amount of energy thathas never been expressed and it
can be liberated.
And then all of a sudden, thatspace can be filled with
something new.
Speaker 01 (23:24):
I la I had to put my dog down two years ago and or
no, a year ago, my gosh, it wasa year ago.
And I was in such grief, and Iwas driving one day and I drove
to like a mountaintop and I gotout of the car, and I I just I
had to get out and scream.
And thank God, Mia, nobody wasaround because they would have
(23:46):
been like, somebody called 911.
But I was just like outsidejust screaming, and I felt such
like a weightlift off of meafter I let go of all of that
grief.
And I think that you're right.
Like, we don't have practiceslike that.
We're not, we're told not to,you know, it's just wild.
And I feel like you're, youknow, it is such a it's so
(24:07):
therapeutic.
Speaker 00 (24:09):
Yeah.
And it has, it's proven now towhen you're doing it, not just,
you know, we go through a wholeprocess, we we walk through your
history and your life and allthe moments you shut yourself
down or didn't stand up foryourself.
And then you're not doing it atanyone.
The earth is literally designedto compost and alchemize.
(24:30):
She takes dead animals androtten fruit and bones like she
composts and alchemizes.
And that's why we do it innature.
That's why we bring it to herbecause she knows what to do
with that.
And she, when you look atplants and trees and nature,
everything that falls from them,their old needles, their old
fruits, the old seeds, that'swhat then becomes like the black
(24:52):
gold soil, the mostnutrient-dense, rich food and
fuel for the future.
That's what they they nourishthemselves with in the days that
come.
And so I really feel that forthis ritual.
It's it's about how can I usethis?
How can I let what falls away,what comes out of me, whether
it's my tears or my screaming,to fuel my future and my next
(25:15):
chapter and what's coming.
Speaker 01 (25:17):
In the book, you also share a practice like the
kitchen witchery.
Can you give a glimpse of likean everyday ritual that
listeners can begin todaylistening to this?
Speaker 00 (25:28):
Yeah, so water holds memory.
You can freeze water with apicture or and it will stay
there.
Water is so much more sentientand magical than we know.
So anytime you're drinkinganything with water, whether
it's coffee or boiling pasta ormaking a cup of tea or a cacao
or a matcha, whatever it is, youcan program your water.
(25:50):
You can send intention andenergy into your water.
You can tell it things.
Speaker 01 (25:55):
You can Okay, so like walk somebody through doing
this, like for real.
Speaker 00 (25:59):
Okay, so I've got my matcha right here.
So I started with a littlewater and some almond milk, and
then I put all the little thingsin.
And so either while it'sfrothing, while you're stirring
it, while you're puttingeverything in, you can just,
whatever it is for the day.
You're like, today I am goingto feel so open and so
surrendered and so trusting, andI feel so grateful.
(26:22):
It doesn't matter what it is,or you're like, today is gonna
be the most full power, deepmagic.
I'm gonna experience a miracletoday.
Something is gonna happen whereI get an undeniable sign from
God and I am gonna feel so heldand so supported.
Like you get to decide whatenergy you want to put into it.
And then, of course, when youlook back farther, all of our
(26:43):
before J.D.
Rockefeller, the oil magnate,took over the American Medical
Association and utilized hismassive financial influence to
propagandize the entire naturalholistic medicine industry and
make pharmaceuticals out of oil,which is what pressed pills are
all made out of aspetrochemicals, rather than our
(27:05):
pharmacopoeia, which comes fromthe earth.
Before the 1920s, every bit ofour medicine came from plants
andor animals.
You know, there's a lot ofChinese medicine with like
oyster shells and pearls andpangolin scales and things like
that, elephant tusk, right?
Um, but everything used to comefrom nature.
So every herb, every plant haseither a magical or a medicinal
(27:28):
signature or remedy to it.
Like my cat is having digestiveissues, and it's like slippery
elm bark and psilium husk andmarshmallow root, you know, it's
easy things.
These are like beautifulnatural remedies that I can give
her that I take myself as well.
And so that is also a reallybeautiful practice, is just to
(27:48):
know the frequency of the herbsthat you're putting on your
steak, in your eggs, on yoursalad, right?
And and understanding, oh,okay, this turmeric that I'm
gonna put into whatever it is,my oatmeal in the morning, that
has anti-inflammatoryproperties.
That's gonna like actually helpmy body soothe and settle.
Can I just be present and awareof with that rather than just,
(28:12):
you know, kind of unconsciouslysprinkling it on?
And that's, you know, that'swhy we say a woman's place is in
the kitchen.
That's why cauldrons have beenassociated with witches since
the beginning of time, isbecause the kitchen was the
original place where ourmedicine was made.
Speaker 01 (28:26):
Yeah.
I I am so fascinated by justfood healing us and food being
medicine.
I just love the idea, because Ithink, you know, there's some
people who are listening whojust like don't cook or just
don't have the time.
But I think it's a simplepractice as drinking your water
or coffee in the morning andjust putting an intention into
it is something anybody could dono matter what.
(28:46):
And even if you think it'sridiculous, just do it anyway
and see how it works.
Speaker 00 (28:51):
And just look up like um hydrography or Dr.
Emoto's work on the watermolecules.
Like there, it's you can't,it's science.
You know, it's not woo-woo,it's not like out there, it's
science.
And and water is, you know,we've had a different
relationship to water in themodern era because we're
(29:13):
filtering it and piping itthrough, you know, but all of
our water used to be living wildwater.
You know, we'd get it fromsprings and rivers and creeks.
And um, and so we have adifferent relationship to water
now, but but it's it is anincredibly magical element.
And, you know, look at what theearth does, right?
She grows all these differentplants and these seeds, and like
(29:33):
this tiny little cone canbecome a redwood tree.
And, you know, there's all thisintelligence and information.
And if you watch a fire dance,like we can't, when you sit
around a fire, like we juststare at it because it's
genetically within us as aspecies.
And air we can't see, but youknow, has a lot of power even in
its invisibility.
And so we we kind of forgetthat water has magical qualities
(29:55):
to it.
Um, but it does, and it, youknow, steam and vapor and mist
and fog and ice and snow.
I mean, have you ever looked ata snowflake?
Speaker 01 (30:02):
Because I know it's for anyone listening the study,
and I'm just gonna butcher it,but I'm just gonna give you the
Cliff Notes version.
But there was a professor thathad his students talk poorly to
some water and say nice thingsto other water, and they had put
it under a microscope and theysaw that it actually broke down
the molecules of the water insuch a bad way of the the the
(30:24):
water that was being talked downto.
I mean, if that's like the veryshort version, but it was, you
could see scientifically that itdid change the molecular
structure of that water.
So all that to say, like itisn't necessarily woo-woo, it is
real.
Anyway, I diverse, I digress.
Um, in which will you ask uswhat ignites my divine work to
(30:48):
ask yourself that?
So when when asking yourself,like I want to ask you, like
right now in your life, Mia,like what is igniting you?
Like what's next?
What's what's giving your soula hug right now?
Speaker 00 (31:03):
Oh, that's such a great question.
Well, to be honest, right nowI'm having a new layer and level
of sexual awakening that isreally igniting me.
I've been studying Tantra forover 10 years.
Uh, I'm actually at the templewhere my one of my best friends,
Layla Martin, OG high taunticpriestess, um lives.
(31:24):
And I've been studying with herand sitting with her and doing
internal sexual practice for forsuch a long time.
And I've finally found like awilling playmate and participant
that is initiating me andallowing me to initiate them in
a really big way.
And so there's a lot of newcodes.
Um, I've also studied how weuse our masculine and feminine,
(31:50):
our dominance or submission,our, you know, like power over
or like capacity to influencethe world and the universe,
right?
Sort of like what we're talkingabout with manifestation, and
then also our necessity tosurrender and to trust and to
let go and to not try and uhadjust reality and just let it
be what it is.
(32:11):
And so for me, yeah, have a anew program called Sex Witch
coming up and out that is likebubbling uh into my cauldron
right now that feels reallyexciting and I've gotten to
learn how to like be my owndaddy in a whole new way and I
love that have a part in WitchWill about like being my own
(32:32):
sugar daddy because I I've neverhad a man be able to take care
of me financially.
I've always been the one who isdoing that.
And so that's been a reallybig, powerful awakening for me
that has been um, you know,there's only so much practice
you can do on your own beforeyou you have to find someone
else to do it with.
And um, yeah, in mypartnership, that was I just
(32:54):
didn't have a willing playmate.
And so it's been, it's been sohealing to find masculine
presence that is like so downfor every ounce of my magic and
my power and is not afraid of meand can meet me in all the
realms.
And in that vein, there is alot of new creativity coming
(33:15):
forth for me where I'm notfeeling the same level of desire
to like be the one front facingwith business.
And so I've been working with abunch of epic entrepreneurs to
give them the skill set and theback-end sort of creative
direction of what I did for myown business and how to build,
(33:36):
you know, a really successfulspiritual company and how to
create an authentic personalbrand.
And it's been really fun to bekind of like the secret weapon
in the back pocket and be behindthe scenes and be orchestrating
something where it's not aboutme and it's not, I don't have
like the numbers and thefollowers and the launch
(33:57):
strategies, like aren't anythingthat I have to sort of identify
with personally.
Yeah.
Um, so those, those are kind oflike the two big things that
have been really fun for me.
And and it is kind of like justworking with that inner daddy
and mommy energy um in a wholenew way that's been so sweet and
(34:18):
actually really healing for meas well.
I love that.
Okay.
Speaker 01 (34:22):
Um finally, if you could, I wrote this down.
I wanted to ask you if youcould gift one collective ritual
to the entire world to do.
Because you have a lot.
So if you could just give one,what would it be?
Speaker 00 (34:37):
And they can't fight me and they can't argue, they
just have to do it, they're justcompelled to do it.
Yeah.
But I would want every singleperson on earth to go out into
the woods, into a beautiful,peaceful, pristine forest and
lay face down on the ground forat least an hour.
(35:00):
I like to do like two, three,four hours, no phone, no getting
up, no distractions, justliterally coming home to nature.
And the way that you discoveryour true nature in that, it's
hard.
Trust me.
I've done it where you're like,oh, I could get up now.
Oh, I'm finished, like, oh,it's fine.
Okay, I've been here for awhile.
Like, oh, I wonder how muchtime it's been.
(35:21):
Like, oh, I should check myphone.
What if someone's coming?
Oh, what if the, you know, likethere's a million different
reasons to get up.
Yeah.
And when we don't, and when westay, and when we allow the
stillness of the natural worldand the true frequency of
sentient aliveness that ourplanet carries when we get out
(35:42):
off the grid, away from theinternet and all the
distractions and all the noise.
There is nothing more healing.
There is nothing moreactivating.
There is nothing moretransformative than that.
That single simplest.
You don't have to do anything.
And that ritual has been thesingle most powerful of any I've
ever done in my life.
Speaker 01 (36:04):
You are amazing.
I'm so happy we did this.
I hope that we get to hug eachother soon in person.
I don't know if you're going toSpain, but I might see you
somewhere around the world.
I love that.
Now I'll be back in LA soonenough.
I'm always there.
Oh my gosh, I can't wait.
I cannot wait to also get myhands on your physical book.
Um, but everybody, I'll put itin the notes how you can get in
touch with Mia, not only for herretreats, but the book.
(36:26):
She also does one on one.
She's help helping othersoulful entrepreneurs as well.
So thank you so much.
Speaker 00 (36:33):
Yes, my pleasure.
Thanks so much for having me,Sabrina.
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