May 26, 2025 • 39 mins
Have you ever felt like your entire life was falling apart, only to realize later it was falling into place? Krista Williams, co-host of the Almost 30 podcast and author of the upcoming book by the same name, joins Redesigning Life to reveal the cosmic phenomenon that might explain why so many of us experience profound upheaval around age 29.
Whether you're approaching 30, reflecting back on that transformative period or simply seeking more alignment in your life, this episode offers profound wisdom about navigating change with grace. Follow Krista on Instagram or visit almost30.com to learn about her upcoming book tour and join a community that's redefining what it means to grow through life's inevitable transitions.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to Redesigning Life.
I'm your host, sabrina Soto,and this is the space where we
have honest conversations aboutpersonal growth, mindset shifts
and creating a life that feelstruly aligned.
In each episode, I'll talk toexperts in their fields who
share their insights to help youstep into your higher self.
Let's redesign your life fromthe inside out.
Welcome to the podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Krista, it's round two baby.
We had our podcast on almost 30, I think, a week ago now and it
was.
I just was telling my friend Iwas like it was one of the best
conversations I've had in a longtime, just because it's us and
I just I love you so much, I'mso grateful to be on your show
and I'm just so proud of you.
The new show is amazing andyou're just such an amazing
human, so I love you.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
And I am so proud of you because you've got a book
coming out.
It's almost 30.
So Krista Williams is the host,the co-host of almost 30, with
her best friend, lindsay.
Everyone knows what almost 30is.
She also has a podcast calledmorning microdose.
But this book almost 30 iscoming out June 9th, is it Third
, oh, third, okay.
(01:04):
So I have so many questions thatI want to get to Thank you for
being on Redesigning Life.
You were going to be on my showbut you couldn't do it because
of your schedule.
So next season you're on itbecause I adore you and maybe I
should give people a little bitof feedback.
So you and I have been friendsfor a few years now.
We met at a lunch with TerryCole and I don't know what it
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was, but I'm like this.
This B is going to be.
I think I forced you to be myfriend, no, so we would go on
these really long walks and talkabout the craziest things, and
what I realized is that nothingthat we ever talked like you're.
Every nothing is off limitswith you, and I've realized that
you're like that in this booktoo.
You talked about everythingfrom spirituality to
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relationships.
So I want to get to that first.
But you start off the book withsomething called uh the return,
this your return your Saturnreturn.
I'm like your Saturn return.
I can't believe that I neverheard about this, because I've
gotten my chart read and I haveastrologers that I go to like
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once every six months.
How the heck did I not knowabout this?
So, for other people who areliving in a cave like me, can
you please explain to thelisteners what your Saturn
return is?
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Yes, so if you're an astrology nerd, you probably
know.
But if you're new to astrology,or even if you think it's
woo-woo, I think the themes ofwhat happens at the Saturn
return period apply to anyone.
So the Saturn return isbasically when the planet Saturn
hits the same point in the skyas it does when you were born,
so it's around 29.5 years.
It probably happens two tothree times in your lifetime, so
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around 29.5, around latefifties.
And then when you're in yournineties and the Saturn is the
planet of, it's like the cosmicdaddy.
It's going to really bring upthe lessons and things in your
life to make sure that you'reliving your life in alignment.
So it's going to berelationships, career, um,
friendships.
If you are not in alignedfriendships, if you are not in
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aligned relationships, if youare not in an aligned career,
that will come up for you and itmost likely will be a rock
bottom moment, and we know thatrock bottom moments aren't the
most fun.
They're really painful and theycan be really hard, but they
often bring us closer to wherewe need to go.
We've all been through thebreakup that was really bad but
ultimately led us to arelationship that we were meant
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to be in.
We all know about thefriendship breakups that were
for our greatest good eventhough they were painful.
So the Saturn return period isa time in life when many people
are questioning everything andreally waking up to the truth of
their life and going through alot of different things that
really feel tough andchallenging.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
Like for me.
I was that's what I was goingto ask you what was going on
with you during that time?
Speaker 2 (03:48):
Yeah, my um.
A lot of the themes of Saturnreturns for people are like
themes of their life too.
So at that point in time I'dquit my full-time job to pursue
blogging full-time.
I wanted to be a blogger.
I ended up not making any moneyblogging, so I had to serve and
nanny and make weird videos forthis Chinese brand, like it was
.
Just, it was such a weird time.
I was really struggling with mybody too.
(04:10):
I'm someone that's struggledwith my body my whole life.
You know, I was a person thatalways felt like there was
something to fix or change, andI've been on a diet since I was
very young, and so the fact ofmy Saturn return period.
It almost came to a point whereit was so painful and the voice
was so loud that I had to dosomething about it, and so that
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really came to a head duringthat time.
And then I didn't really knowit, but I was in really
codependent friendships.
I was in friendships with womenthat I had to self-sacrifice
for their love.
We kind of would lose ouridentities in one another.
There was a lot oftriangulation happening and then
, lastly, I was in myrelationship with my ex-husband,
so there was a lot of patternsof our dynamic that I wasn't
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really seeing but were reallyreally coming to the surface.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
So I'm reading your book and I'm like Saturn return.
And then I realized, at 29 anda half, I think, is when I asked
for a divorce.
That's when I got my first HGTVjob.
I was that age and my wholelife went for me living in a
house, living a you know, quietmarried life, working as a
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mortgage broker and doingstaging to being on, like the
other side of the country,living my dream job, you know,
like overnight.
It wasn't overnight, but yes.
So now I'm like, oh my God, Ican't, how did I not know about
this?
But then it makes sense.
That's why everybody feels likeeverything is falling apart
during this time.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
Yes, it is.
And so there's the Saturnreturn.
That's happening from thecosmic perspective and then also
from a brain perspective.
Your prefrontal cortex iscoming online in your late
twenties.
So your prefrontal cortex isresponsible for um, your
consciousness, so your consciousthoughts and emotions.
So up until that point, we'resort of playing off of a script
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that our family told us, ourparents told us, media told us.
And at the point when yourprefrontal cortex comes online,
you're processing your decisionsand your emotions from a place
of consciousness.
So you're like what do Iactually want to do?
Do I actually want to be inthis relationship?
In your case?
An example do I actually wantto stay as a mortgage broker?
Like you really look at thingsdifferently and it's a really
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empowering feeling, but alsoreally scary.
So there's brain stuff thathappens then too.
And you know, the average agefor the first person to have
their kid is 29.
The average age for the personto get married is like 28.5.
Most people are like dealingwith college debt.
During this time, you're moving, you're changing friends.
Like, this period is one of themost powerful and impactful in
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our lives, and I think forLindsay and I, in our podcast
and even in the book.
We just wanted to talk aboutthis period where we felt so
lost and we felt so alone and wefelt so confused and we felt
like we were doing all thethings but nothing that was
right, and we want to makepeople aware that change can be
for your greatest good, likeyour change was scary, like it
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wasn't easy, but it was for yourgreatest good.
So change can be something thatleads you to greater
possibility, rather than down apath that is worse.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
Yeah, I, I, I just couldn't believe.
And then I'm like, holy moly,what's going to happen when I'm
60?
Like this is going to happenagain.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
Which is amazing.
But again you're living.
This is the thing you'reprobably going to be living,
aligned, so it's going to bebeautiful, it's going to be good
, it's like it's all to help youin your alignment, it's all
supportive of you.
I think we have such aninteresting relationship
culturally with change where wefeel like change is scary.
Change is something we need tobrace for.
But I think most of yourlisteners and most people that I
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know they have a vision for alife that they want.
They have a vision for arelationship that they want, and
to have that they need tochange their life now.
They need to change theirrelationships now, and so the
change can be something that canreally lead us to being more
happy in living a life that welove.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
So during I mean, you've been really open about
your breakup, which was, it's,huge because you guys were
together for 10 years.
So how did you, how did youembrace the scary part?
Because if somebody islistening to this and they could
either be in a relationshipwhether it's romantic, a
friendship, maybe a career thatthey're into and they're like,
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great, yes, I'm feeling this.
I do want the change.
It's the fear that keeps themsort of stuck.
How did you get past knowingthat this wasn't for your
highest good anymore and thenmove through the fear in order
to actually create that changein your life?
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Yeah, so in my relationship, when you're in a
relationship that long, so in myrelationship when you're in a
relationship that long, it's notjust one day I was like time to
go.
I was struggling for a while Iwould say three years at that
point and we were married.
So I was struggling in themarriage.
I didn't really understand mybiggest question in that
relationship was what is anormal hard in relationships and
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what is misalignment?
What is a normal part of growthand deepening in the fears that
come up of intimacy and all ofthat, and what is truly me just
forcing something or livingunaligned.
So I lived that question for alot of the time.
So I think, for anyone listeningyou know, my process was to
really deepen and learn all ofthe lessons that I was supposed
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to learn in that container.
So to make sure that I wasbeing loving and soft, to make
sure that I was trying as hardas I could to see their
perspective, to make sure that Iwas becoming a better
communicator.
I was doing all the things.
So I spent a few years justreally shape-shifting, changing,
evolving, doing all thesethings in the relationship
container so that when I hadthat hit and that clarity of
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leaving.
I knew that I was doing it,knowing that I had done
everything that I, you know,cleaned my I'm sure you had that
too Like I completely cleanedmy side of the street before I
left.
And then, when there was amoment where it was our
anniversary and I don't know ifyou ever had a relationship
where you'd fight every holiday,yes, and birthday, oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
What do you mean?
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Like Christmas, thanksgiving anniversary,
valentine's day, like it wasjust like anniversary.
We're fighting, of course, like, and so we were just fighting.
And at that time my goal was tobe soft.
I was like I'm going to besuper soft and loving, and so I
was being, as much as I could,super soft and loving when we
were fighting.
And I was sitting on the cornerof the bed and I heard my soul
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say for the right person, youdon't need to be perfect, you
just need to be yourself.
And I had felt like for so longin that relationship I had to be
perfect, I had to communicatethe right relationship.
So it was a mix of me doing alot of work internally in that
relationship, us going totherapy, trying everything that
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I could so that I could feelclear in my heart that I had
done everything I could in thisrelationship and I had gotten
the benefits of a spiritualrelationship container.
And then, two, it was waitingfor the clear sign from my soul.
Um, and just as a last point,like a 2.0, 2.0 or three, I also
was like there, I don't knowwhat's out there, but I know
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it's better than this.
It was so clear that, like Idon't even know what dating is
like, what the world is like,but it has to be better than
this, because I am miserable, sothat was sort of my process
with it.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
Yeah, I think that's great advice.
I remember when I broke up withOlivia's dad, I I tried
everything, and I did it more sothat if Olivia ever asks me
when she's older what happened,I can look at her in the eye and
say I tried everything I couldto repair that.
And I think that's reallyimportant, especially in a
marriage, because you never wanta second guess because I don't
know about you, but for me, like, second guessing is one of my
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favorite hobbies.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
Oh, I've gotten better at it but it's a lot.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
Okay, wait, you spoke up.
You obviously co-host this andyou co-wrote this with Lindsay,
who's your best friend, and youtalk about friendship audits in
the book too, and I think that'simportant.
You talk about it on thepodcast as well.
How have you kept such ahealthy relationship with
Lindsay when you guys are bestfriends, co-writers, co-hosts on
the podcast and basicallybusiness partners?
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Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
So first just to explain the friendship audit
which you mentioned.
So for anyone that doesn't know, in the book I talk about doing
a friendship audit, and thereason why I talk about this is
because so many women that Iwork with and know in our
community and I would even saymyself are women that want to do
it all.
I want to be everyone's bestfriend, I want to be everyone's
first call, I want to show upfor everyone.
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I want to be the friend thatgets you flowers, that plans
your bachelorette, that justdoes everything, and that part
of me could essentially spend mywhole life just being the best
friend in the whole world.
And then there's also theperspective of there's a lot of
there's only so little time andthere's a lot of people that we
could spend it with.
We want to make sure we'respending it with the right
people, and I realized when Iwas in Los Angeles that I was
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sometimes spending my time withpeople that just wanted to spend
time with me, but I didn'treally feel the best around them
, and that I wasn't actuallyspending the most amount of time
of my life with the people thatI love the most and that the
people that I love the mostweren't getting the most of me,
they weren't being my number onepriority.
I think parents can often thinkof this, where it's like, you
know, the kids are the numberone priority, but oftentimes the
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kids are not prioritized.
So when reality sets in of like, how am I actually spending my
time?
Am I actually spending it withthe friends that make me feel
the best, the people that I lovethe most, I thought about
something called a friendshipaudit where I really got clear
about, like, my A tier friends,my B tier friends and my C tier
friends.
And it doesn't need to besomething you share with anyone.
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People don't need to know, butyou can just know in your mind,
like, who are the people thathave intimate access to me, who
are the people that I will doanything for, who are the people
that I will really show up forand who are the people that I
will have clearing conversationswith, I will speak my truth to.
And then B, who are the peopleI like to go out with, I like to
party, I like to see once amonth or once every other month
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that I'm like really love, butmaybe we haven't like spent as
much time together, maybe wedon't have a situation that
makes us closer and then seefriends, social friends,
whatever.
So the friendship audit justhelps you get really clear and
crystallized.
So my friendship with Lindsay,so she's one of my soulmates,
you know she's one of the mostpowerful relationships of my
life.
So I think first it's a soulthing.
I think you know what it's like, you know with your fiance, you
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know what it's like with yourfriends, like so much of it's
truly the soul, frequency andexperience of being two
soulmates that were able toco-create something.
And then I think the secondthing about our relationship
that's kept us so strong, frombusiness partners to having
dreams together, you know,working together for 10 years is
the fact that we have a lot offreedom in our relationship.
So we've never been friendsthat felt like I knew better
than her, she knew better thanme, I had to do what she wanted
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to do, she had to do what Iwanted to do.
Our paths have been verydifferent and as we've grown and
evolved we've been able to stayreally close but also stay
really free.
So when she wanted to move toNew York to be with her husband,
I was like cool, you got it,like I'm happy for you.
Obviously, I'm sad when Iwanted to do my thing with my
business.
She was able to be happy for meand free, and within the
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freedom that's created bycreating a really secure
attachment through havingclearing conversations, through
showing up for one another,through honesty, through
transparency, through likeshared values.
So there's a lot of aspects toour relationship that I'm so
grateful serve as a template forme and my new relationships,
because I think for a lot ofwomen, female relationships can
be hard.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
Yes, so that's okay.
So then somebody might belistening to this going I want
that relationship that Lindsayand Krista have, but I feel like
there's no one in my life thatfills that bucket, like there's
no one in my life that fillsthat bucket.
And so if I do a friendshipaudit, what happens if no one's
left?
Because I hear women,especially closer to my age not
your age but saying like I losta lot of friendships, I don't
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have as much time.
I want that special friendship,but how do I even make friends?
Like what do you think?
Speaker 2 (15:54):
Yeah, the friendship thing is huge.
Make friends, like what do youthink?
Yeah, the friendship thing ishuge.
I think, for me, first, when wedon't have the friends that we
want or the friends that we'relooking for, I think we have to
become the friend that we want.
You know, it's just likerelationships and dating Like
you want to have this like toptier, 10 out of 10 person Like
are you a 10 out of 10 woman?
And that doesn't mean you'rethe most beautiful or attractive
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, but a woman that knows herworth and her value and like
brings a lot to the table.
Maybe it's intelligence, maybeit's charisma, maybe it's, you
know, power, whatever your thingis.
It's like you have to bring tothe table what you're looking to
receive.
So I have sculpted myself into awoman that's worthy of
friendships and relationships.
I spend a lot of time withmyself.
I pray, I do my own work.
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I relationships.
I spend a lot of time withmyself, I pray, I do my own work
.
I, like am always in a processof something and I love people
really deeply.
But I remember periods in timein my life where I didn't feel
met by women, I didn't feel metby friends, and it's really
painful and lonely because thereis that desire for us to
connect.
And when you do have femalefriends, it's the most healing
thing on earth.
Female friendships are justincredible.
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So I would say, first doingyour own work to really become
an amazing woman, that's worthyof amazing friendships.
And I know that sounds harsh,but it's true.
You have to become the personthat's going to have the energy
and vibration that attractsthose relationships and then I
would say, to invest in thefriendships you do have.
I think sometimes we're so busylooking outside to be like I
want that new friend, I wantthat new thing.
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It's like try and meet your oldfriends with the new version of
you.
Try and deepen thatrelationship.
Try and have a more open,honest, vulnerable conversation
with them.
Try and bring a new energy tothat relationship and see if you
guys can evolve and growtogether.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
That's great advice.
I have an old friend of mine.
She and I have known each othersince we were 10 years old and
we would be very sarcastic witheach other because we've known
each other since we were 10.
And a few years ago we had thisdeep conversation of you're
kind of hurting my feelings, andshe was like you're kind of
hurting my feelings too.
And I was shocked and here Iwas thinking I've outgrown maybe
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that friendship.
But then I realized we bothgrew but we were both meeting
each other at that lower levelbecause we assumed that's what
we were both wanting.
And once we just freed eachother and said, no, I kind of
like the new version that youare and vice versa, like now we
have a whole new relationship.
So you'd be surprised when youbecome more vulnerable and you
think you've outgrown somebody.
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Maybe it's just a conversationto sort of clear the air is all
that's needed.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
Oh, I love that I think in romantic relationships,
familial relationships,friendship relationships, you
always have to meet people atthat Like you're.
I think we subconsciously meetthem at the version we met, when
we assume that, oh, they'relike this, they're always
sarcastic, they're always jokingand it's like no, like you've
had so much life happen, she'shad so much life happen.
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And so when we can kind of pullback the idea of the person as
who we thought they were or theperson who we want them to be,
and allow them to meet usdifferently, it's such a
beautiful thing Like that's trueintimacy, like how much closer
did you guys feel afterexpressing that it's wild?
Speaker 1 (19:01):
I just, I really do feel, and now I feel more open.
I'm able to tell her a lot ofother things too.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
Yeah, those, those oh my gosh, the vulnerability and
the intimacy of sharing thatwith someone is such a gift.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
So powerful and potent and it takes your
relationship to the next level.
But I think what you guys didwas so beautiful, was it's like
you know?
Oh, I realized that reallyhurts, like that doesn't feel
good.
And it was never passive,aggressive.
It was never, you know, you'reyou do.
It was never in an energy ofblame or shame.
It was like, oh, I'm, I'm justnot.
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That doesn't feel good.
I'm saying how I feel, I'macknowledging how I feel and I'm
letting you in on theopportunity to help support me
in feeling better.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
Speaking of vulnerability, I think one of
the things I love about you andour walks and just talking is
not only how much we laugh.
We laugh so hard my old datinglife.
But I love how open you are.
But and again, you talked aboutso many different things things
in the book career,spirituality, your family, the
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shoulds of our lives but what isthe most difficult thing for
you personally that you had tosort of open up about.
That was scary.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
It's a great question .
Um, I didn't talk about mydivorce in this because it
wasn't like necessarily part ofthat, so I remember omitting
that.
But I think the hardest partwas talking about the body
chapter.
So in the book I talk about thebody.
I talk about our relationshipas women to our bodies.
I believe it's one of my mostimportant things.
I speak about because so manywomen believe that their life
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happens on the other side oftheir body, being a different
way, being thinner, beingcurvier, whatever the things are
, and so many women holdthemselves back, make themselves
miserable, don't live their ownlives because they don't feel
like they're worthy of it,because their body is in a
certain way.
So I was someone that againstruggled with my body my whole
life.
So the first part of thatchapter I talk about, when I was
in Mexico I went to find thisdiet drug that like was told to
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lose, that I told I would loseweight on it.
It was a prescription drug.
I had to go to a pharmacy and Ibought like three months supply
of this prescription drug thatI'd have to get a prescription
for in America, in Mexico, and Iwas like plotting all my trips
back to Mexico to start gettingthis drug, because once you
started taking it, you had totake it for the rest of your
life.
This was pre-Osempic days, soit was actually a thyroid
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medication and it was for yourthyroid, but it's supposed to
make you lose weight, or I readit on Reddit something crazy,
like the mind of someone whostruggles with their body is so
insane.
You just go to the ends of theearth.
So sharing that story was reallyum, go to the ends of the earth
.
So sharing that story wasreally um, I just made me sad of
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how far I would go and I'venever shared it before and I
never ended up taking the drugs,thank God.
Um, so I'm very grateful forthat.
But I just was like, wow, thatwas like a very, very deep low
for me and very embarrassing.
And is that why you started themetamorphosis?
Yeah, yeah, so basically,metamorphosis is my body
transformation program.
So I believe that to change ourbodies, we need to change our
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minds, and so in metamorphosis,it's like a spiritual approach
to weight loss and loving ourbodies, and that's a lot of the
reason why it was because myjourney was so painful and I
realized that the thing thatchanged my body, because my
body's transformed since mydivorce a few years ago was that
I was feeling my feelings, Iwas speaking my truth, I was not
associating food as a copingmechanism or to numb and I was
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being more present and allowingwith life, and that freedom and
liberation and relationship thatI had to food and my body and
God was what really helpedtransform me into living in a
body that I love and I celebrateand I'm excited by, and I want
that for every woman.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
Well, so then, what changed from the, what the?
From the girl who was going toMexico she was going to Cabo
every three months for this,these pills, to what like what
slapped you in the face?
Yeah, and change that.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
So I remember I was walking across.
It was just a normal day and Iwas walking across my kitchen
and I was in my normal patternof my morning routine.
How many calories am I going tohave today?
What is the food I'm going tohave to be in those calories?
What is the workout I'm goingto do to burn those calories off
?
How many steps am I taking?
How many macros?
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I was just in my Tetris gamemath experience of deciding all
my numbers.
How much did I weigh?
I just got off the scale.
How much should I weigh?
How much do I need to weigh forthis?
And I was just in the loop of itand there was a moment of like,
click of consciousness, of like, oh, wow, like this has been my
life and I think at this timeI'm going to accept that I'm
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going to live a life like this,that for the rest of my life I'm
going to fully be stuck in thisdynamic, and that surrender was
like a true surrender, like Itruly was, like I give up, like
I completely give up.
This is, this is just what it is.
Maybe next lifetime I'll livein a body that I love, I'll feel
free, and that surrender waslike something I didn't plan for
but was the most powerful thingbecause it created the
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spaciousness around it so that Icould transform and evolve, and
it allowed possibility becauseI could see the truth of what I
was doing and what I was goingthrough.
And then, after that, doinginternal family systems, which
is parts work.
It's a psychotherapy techniquethat I practice with my clients
and I do all the time.
It's so powerful for healingyour relationship with your body
, and then finding books likeWomen, food and God is one of my
(24:27):
favorite books of all time.
Doing work on the mother wound,I was really taking it from a
more spiritual perspective thanthe strategy because I'd lived
in that my whole life.
So finally adding thatspiritual element was really
what helped change everything.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
Do you feel like everyone has their thing?
Like for what?
Some?
For you, could it be food, forsomebody, it could be shopping
or gambling or just fill in theblank?
Do you feel like I told you onyour podcast, for me for a long
time it was drinking, because Iand then one day I'm like I'm so
tired of thinking aboutdrinking whether or not I'm
(25:02):
going to drink.
I'm not going to drink If I golike I was so freaking tired of
it that I was just enoughalready, enough of using
something outside of my own bodyto escape my mind.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
Yes, yes, oh, my gosh , I do think, you know I
wouldn't say everybody, cause Idon't know but I do think we
humans, we all have somethingshopping, gambling, porn, um,
drinking, you know, drugs, allof these things because we as
children, for most of us, we'renever taught to feel our
feelings.
No, don't cry, don't worry, youknow stuff.
Oh, here's this toy, here'sthis thing.
(25:36):
So for our lives we've beendistracted from feeling,
entertainment, parents, you know, trying to distract us all of
these things.
So it's a natural inclinationfor us to want to distract from
feeling.
For me that was food.
I also found food as a reallystable place to numb and to cope
.
If my parents were going crazyand I couldn't find regulation
(25:57):
with them, I could regulate withfood.
Food's an amazing regulationtool.
So I think we find our thingsto regulate and numb and I think
in our life it's kind of ourwork to try and break out of
those cycles.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
Absolutely, and in addition I mean you seriously
have like 45 different jobs.
I do retreats, so you-.
It's like embarrassing.
No, I love it.
I love it.
I hate it because I never getto see you, but I love that
you're always doing somethingfun.
You do these amazing retreats.
How, in all the time that youspend this really intimate time
(26:28):
with women, what's um, what'ssomething that keeps getting
like that people are feelingthat sort of uh, like a theme
that you feel like women are aregrappling with.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
Oh yeah, um yeah.
So, for anyone listening, Iwork one-on-one with women as a
coach, and then I also doretreats in places like Ibiza
and Switzerland, and they'rereally luxury and just really
deep and authentic and beautiful, and I'm it's like my favorite
work to do.
I would say the thing that Isee women struggling most with
right now is the desire to be intheir feminine.
So many women right now feellike they're burnt out and they
feel like they're living theirlives and they're masculine and
they deeply desire to beconnected to their feminine, to
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their essence, and there's this,this disconnect, where they're
not feeling safe enough to be intheir feminine, they're not
feeling the ability to be intheir feminine, and so it's so.
It's definitely the biggesttheme that I see.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
Yeah, I told you I went to Hoffman back in 23.
Gosh, and one of the biggestthings that I took away from it
is that soft is strong, becausefor me, hard was strong and I
was hard all of my life and Ithink that once I was able to
drop down into my feminine, mywhole life changed.
(27:40):
I was able to ask for help,become softer with my friends,
with my family, my parents.
I forgave them, you know,because they're human as well
and everything changed when Iwas, I just stopped carrying
that weight and I feel like weare all doing that and it's
exhausting.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
Yes, I think I'm not usually like blame the system
person, but I do think that oursystem does not set up women to
be well.
Women are now overeducated thanmen.
We're out earning men.
We're not only the breadwinnersnow in a lot of cases but we're
also taking care of the kids.
We're also maintaining thespiritual connection in the
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relationship, like women arevery attuned, so they're kind of
monitoring the health of therelationship.
We're also like there asmothers, there as sisters, there
as friends.
So the kind of naturalinclination for women to be
community-based, sociallyoriented, to be givers, is sort
of being exacerbated and takenadvantage of by the current
system.
And women are just findingthemselves like having no energy
(28:42):
, no time for themselves,feeling depleted, feeling
feeling like they can't be softbecause the system doesn't
really allow people.
If you're in the normal matrixsystem nine to five it doesn't
really allow you to be soft.
You know, if you were in acorporate job I was in the
corporate world I would cry allthe time.
But I'm like I'm like not well,so I would just cry all the
time.
But I'm like I'm like not wellso I would just cry all the time
.
But it's not normal to becrying at work.
(29:04):
It's not normal to be emotingand expressing your feelings.
We're on a system and cyclethat doesn't support a women's
cycle.
You know women have 28 daycycles, men have daily cycles.
Like we're just kind of notreally setting women up for
success here and I think it'sbeen really heartbreaking for me
for women to see themselves umnever living in a life that they
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love because they feel likethey have to do so much for
other people.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
Oh, especially for me , like growing up with my
parents are Cuban and that'sthat's what we were.
That was celebrated for you toabandon yourself constantly for
your husband, the children, thehouse, the dog, the cat, the
bird, your job, and then at theend of the day, if you have like
(29:50):
a minute, then you could gotake a bath, Like what.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
Yeah, I remember I'll never forget Oprah.
I think it was in the ninetiesand she had a show on where this
person was talking about to thewomen in the audience and she
was like you guys should putyourself first, you need to fill
your cup up first, you need totake care of yourself first.
And all the women in theaudience started booing at her
(30:14):
because they were like, no, wecan't.
We have to take care of thekids and the family and all this
stuff.
And they were so upset by thatconcept and that idea and it's
so powerful because I thinkwe're seeing that now, where
we're understanding that we needto take care of ourselves and
we need to find balance and weneed to find, you know, purpose
and we need to find boundariesand more clarity and things.
(30:35):
But, um, I also just on thefeminine thing as a second point
.
I also want to be mindful wherewomen are using everything they
can to like feel like they'redoing something wrong.
I think women have this naturalinclination to always want to
be better, to do better, to feellike there's something wrong
with them, and I think sometimesthe conversation around the
feminine makes them feel likethey're always doing something
(30:56):
wrong.
Where I also want to kind ofalleviate that, where it's like
the feminine is created withsafety within yourself of course
, but a masculine also canprovide that safety really well,
and I don't know a lot ofmasculines in this moment that
are really at the point wherethey're holding women in a
healthy masculine frame, and sothere is a lot of other factors
that are not really supportingthem in their femininity.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
I mean that's a whole other conversation, that's like
an entire other podcast that Icould talk for hours about.
So I love that you started thebook sort of talking about how
you and Lindsay started thepodcast, because you started
with like a $25 microphone, ifI'm remembering it correctly,
like in the closet, and then youtried to do something at a
restaurant and I think a lot ofpeople wait until they have the
(31:41):
perfect camera, the perfect this, the perfect weight, the
perfect outfit to do the things,and I love that you just did it
and obviously it's a hugesuccess.
But I know the book is not justfor somebody who's turning
almost 30.
So, in your words, who isalmost 30?
Who is this book for?
Speaker 2 (32:02):
I think it's for anyone that feels behind in life
, that feels like they don'thave the job, the purpose, the
career, they don't have therelationship, they don't have
that thing that they're kind ofhere and looking for, and it's
just the reminder that you'renot behind.
You're becoming, because somany of us feel like we're doing
something wrong and we need tobe somewhere that we're not.
I still feel like that todaywith the life that I live.
(32:23):
I still feel like I'm behind ina lot of different areas.
So for it's people that feelthat way and it's anyone that
has a relationship with change.
You know this book is about theSaturn return period, but all
the information in it is all thelessons and things that I've
learned over the years hosting apodcast.
In it is all the lessons andthings that I've learned over
the years hosting a podcastinterviewing some of the best
(32:45):
and brightest you.
Recently we have past the micsections from people like Mel
Robbins, jay Shetty, glennonDoyle.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
I was like what?
So, he's talking about past themic.
It's just these little blurbsin the book that it says past
the mic and it's these quotesfrom people that were on the
podcast.
But it's not.
I mean, it's some prettyamazing people and you have had,
you guys have interviewedprobably every single person in
this world, in, you know, thespiritual mindset growth world.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
So out of all these people that you had, I just love
that you you've went back andshared the nuggets, so it's kind
of like the best of yourpodcast yes, it's the best and
most of the people that we havequoted are like 40s and 50s, so
it's not like you're going toread a quote from a 30-something
.
Most of them are people thatare older, that have been
(33:32):
through it and that have seen it, and we really also wanted
people to have a betterrelationship with change, better
relationships with their body,better friendships.
Better relationships with theirbody, better friendships,
better relationships to purpose,god and their soul.
It's a very meaty, hefty book.
(33:53):
If you know me, I'm not a lightperson.
I'm super deep.
I'm always going to get to it.
You are fun.
I'm so fun yeah, I'm actually,but we're fun together.
Speaker 1 (33:59):
Well, you're a lot of fun, but that's I mean your
personality, and I haven't metLindsay yet, but your
personality came out so much inthe book of being raw, still
having light moments, and Ithink everyone is going to
benefit by getting the book.
I'm so excited for you.
One last thing, though you werejust talking about how you are
still dealing sometimes with thenot doing enough, and I was
(34:22):
just talking to my best friend,trish, about it this morning,
where I go from this ebb andflow, where I'm like let it flow
, just receive from the universe, to why isn't this person
calling?
I should call them back, Ishould email them right now.
And so do you deal with thatsame sort of juxtaposition in
your life as well?
If yours is by?
Speaker 2 (34:41):
the hour, mine is by the minute.
This whole process with thebook has been a tornado of
emotions and feelings of I'msurrendered, it's all good, let
God show me the way.
And then the next second I'mlike I am absolutely not doing
anything right.
I am absolutely not doinganything right.
This is, you know, that journeyI'm on right now and I think
(35:03):
it'll kill me because it's sucha tough one.
But that's such a deep question.
You know, the idea and thoughtof surrendering in life is not
small, like we as people havebelieved that we've created our
lives and our experience and ourexistence and in a lot of ways
we do co-create.
But to surrender truly is not asmall feat and I think that's
(35:26):
my biggest struggle right now ismy deep desire to surrender.
I really want to surrender mylife over and just have more
miracles and magic and have moreof what's meant for me come for
me.
But I also want it to lookexactly how I want it to look
like.
Speaker 1 (35:39):
So it's like what is that?
I know I've I struggle, want itto look exactly how I want it
to look like.
So it's like what is that?
I know I struggle with it too,but I realized in talking to
Trish this morning what we weresaying is when I embody the
person that is in the future,when I really live that woman of
the ideal life, is where Icould be more calm.
(35:59):
It's when I'm acting erraticand making silly decisions is
when I start feeling like I haveto push and hustle yes From
fear.
Speaker 2 (36:06):
It's that, like you know, and that's that when we
talk about the femininity,that's the maiden energy.
The maiden energy is likepeople pleasing have to make it
all happen.
You have to like, force it andpush it and you know the, the
true feminine is in receptivemode.
But I feel like it's more aboutjust alignment.
I'm like when I'm like, okay,how can I do this?
How can I do that?
I'm like I just need to trulyget aligned, because things that
happen for me happen when I'maligned, the things that are
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meant for me happen at that time.
Speaker 1 (36:30):
Well, so then, how do you, how do you Krista align
yourself?
Speaker 2 (36:40):
Prayer prayer every morning.
So there's a really specificperiod in time for your brain
when you're waking up in themorning and right before bed
it's really primed forinformation, it's primed for
affirmations.
It's primed so it's very tender.
You don't want to get on yourphone because it can take in
information and really apply itto things.
So I get up and pray right awayand sometimes that's
affirmation, sometimes that'sbooks that I read, sometimes
that's just me with God and thatreally helps align me because
it just kind of clears anythingthat's in the way between me and
(37:04):
what I came here to do.
And then removing toxicrelationships and friendships
and people from my life thatkeep me from my alignment, I
think is really really huge aswell.
I love you so much.
Speaker 1 (37:15):
Obviously, if you're listening, you're going to get
in touch with Krista onInstagram.
I'll have a link to the book,her retreats, her podcast, all
of the podcasts I love you.
Thank you so much for being onthe show, thank you for your
friendship, thank you forcreating this book and also just
being such an inspiration forme.
(37:36):
You know, and I think a lot oftimes we don't tell our friends
how much they inspire you, andyou inspire me so much to live a
better life and to think muchbigger than I sometimes allow
myself.
So thank you.
Speaker 2 (37:50):
Oh, man, you inspire me with your joy, with your
clarity, with your willingness.
I just adore you and for me ittakes a lot for people to get in
.
I'm very open and warm andfriendly, but for people to get
in Like I'm very open and warmand friendly, but for people to
really get in with me is veryspecific and you have that
perfect formula that I allow inwhere you're like funny and
playful and deep and real andauthentic and I'm like you.
Can you get access to my heart?
Speaker 1 (38:15):
I love you.
Oh, yes, everybody.
Thank you for listening, please, thank you, guys.
You're not already followingher?
Go get the book.
She's also going on a book tourall across the country, so I'll
.
Where's the book tour on yourwebsite?
Can you tell everybody where tofind it?
Speaker 2 (38:31):
Almost 30.com, you can find everything we're going
to Nashville, new York, losAngeles and maybe someplace else
that I forget right now.
Speaker 1 (38:39):
So and then also, you have the best promo codes.
Where are you all your pro?
You said you have.
Speaker 2 (38:43):
Where are the promo codes Just at almost 30.com
slash partners, but you can justhonestly try almost 30 at any
place.
We've we've worked with likehundreds of brands over the
years that are like the best inhealth and wellness, so people
literally just use almost 30 allthe time at random places.
Speaker 1 (38:58):
There you go.
That's your life hack.
I know, yes, that's theredesigning life hack.
Speaker 2 (39:03):
I love you.
I love you.
Talk to you later.
Welcome to Redesigning Life.
I'm your host, sabrina Soto,and this is the space where we
have honest conversations aboutpersonal growth, mindset shifts
and creating a life that feelstruly aligned.
In each episode, I'll talk toexperts in their fields who
share their insights to help youstep into your higher self.
Let's redesign your life fromthe inside out.
Welcome to the podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Krista, it's round two baby.
We had our podcast on almost 30, I think, a week ago now and it
was.
I just was telling my friend Iwas like it was one of the best
conversations I've had in a longtime, just because it's us and
I just I love you so much, I'mso grateful to be on your show
and I'm just so proud of you.
The new show is amazing andyou're just such an amazing
human, so I love you.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
And I am so proud of you because you've got a book
coming out.
It's almost 30.
So Krista Williams is the host,the co-host of almost 30, with
her best friend, lindsay.
Everyone knows what almost 30is.
She also has a podcast calledmorning microdose.
But this book almost 30 iscoming out June 9th, is it Third
, oh, third, okay.
(01:04):
So I have so many questions thatI want to get to Thank you for
being on Redesigning Life.
You were going to be on my showbut you couldn't do it because
of your schedule.
So next season you're on itbecause I adore you and maybe I
should give people a little bitof feedback.
So you and I have been friendsfor a few years now.
We met at a lunch with TerryCole and I don't know what it
(01:25):
was, but I'm like this.
This B is going to be.
I think I forced you to be myfriend, no, so we would go on
these really long walks and talkabout the craziest things, and
what I realized is that nothingthat we ever talked like you're.
Every nothing is off limitswith you, and I've realized that
you're like that in this booktoo.
You talked about everythingfrom spirituality to
(01:49):
relationships.
So I want to get to that first.
But you start off the book withsomething called uh the return,
this your return your Saturnreturn.
I'm like your Saturn return.
I can't believe that I neverheard about this, because I've
gotten my chart read and I haveastrologers that I go to like
(02:11):
once every six months.
How the heck did I not knowabout this?
So, for other people who areliving in a cave like me, can
you please explain to thelisteners what your Saturn
return is?
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Yes, so if you're an astrology nerd, you probably
know.
But if you're new to astrology,or even if you think it's
woo-woo, I think the themes ofwhat happens at the Saturn
return period apply to anyone.
So the Saturn return isbasically when the planet Saturn
hits the same point in the skyas it does when you were born,
so it's around 29.5 years.
It probably happens two tothree times in your lifetime, so
(02:44):
around 29.5, around latefifties.
And then when you're in yournineties and the Saturn is the
planet of, it's like the cosmicdaddy.
It's going to really bring upthe lessons and things in your
life to make sure that you'reliving your life in alignment.
So it's going to berelationships, career, um,
friendships.
If you are not in alignedfriendships, if you are not in
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aligned relationships, if youare not in an aligned career,
that will come up for you and itmost likely will be a rock
bottom moment, and we know thatrock bottom moments aren't the
most fun.
They're really painful and theycan be really hard, but they
often bring us closer to wherewe need to go.
We've all been through thebreakup that was really bad but
ultimately led us to arelationship that we were meant
(03:25):
to be in.
We all know about thefriendship breakups that were
for our greatest good eventhough they were painful.
So the Saturn return period isa time in life when many people
are questioning everything andreally waking up to the truth of
their life and going through alot of different things that
really feel tough andchallenging.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
Like for me.
I was that's what I was goingto ask you what was going on
with you during that time?
Speaker 2 (03:48):
Yeah, my um.
A lot of the themes of Saturnreturns for people are like
themes of their life too.
So at that point in time I'dquit my full-time job to pursue
blogging full-time.
I wanted to be a blogger.
I ended up not making any moneyblogging, so I had to serve and
nanny and make weird videos forthis Chinese brand, like it was
.
Just, it was such a weird time.
I was really struggling with mybody too.
(04:10):
I'm someone that's struggledwith my body my whole life.
You know, I was a person thatalways felt like there was
something to fix or change, andI've been on a diet since I was
very young, and so the fact ofmy Saturn return period.
It almost came to a point whereit was so painful and the voice
was so loud that I had to dosomething about it, and so that
(04:31):
really came to a head duringthat time.
And then I didn't really knowit, but I was in really
codependent friendships.
I was in friendships with womenthat I had to self-sacrifice
for their love.
We kind of would lose ouridentities in one another.
There was a lot oftriangulation happening and then
, lastly, I was in myrelationship with my ex-husband,
so there was a lot of patternsof our dynamic that I wasn't
(04:52):
really seeing but were reallyreally coming to the surface.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
So I'm reading your book and I'm like Saturn return.
And then I realized, at 29 anda half, I think, is when I asked
for a divorce.
That's when I got my first HGTVjob.
I was that age and my wholelife went for me living in a
house, living a you know, quietmarried life, working as a
(05:17):
mortgage broker and doingstaging to being on, like the
other side of the country,living my dream job, you know,
like overnight.
It wasn't overnight, but yes.
So now I'm like, oh my God, Ican't, how did I not know about
this?
But then it makes sense.
That's why everybody feels likeeverything is falling apart
during this time.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
Yes, it is.
And so there's the Saturnreturn.
That's happening from thecosmic perspective and then also
from a brain perspective.
Your prefrontal cortex iscoming online in your late
twenties.
So your prefrontal cortex isresponsible for um, your
consciousness, so your consciousthoughts and emotions.
So up until that point, we'resort of playing off of a script
(05:57):
that our family told us, ourparents told us, media told us.
And at the point when yourprefrontal cortex comes online,
you're processing your decisionsand your emotions from a place
of consciousness.
So you're like what do Iactually want to do?
Do I actually want to be inthis relationship?
In your case?
An example do I actually wantto stay as a mortgage broker?
Like you really look at thingsdifferently and it's a really
(06:19):
empowering feeling, but alsoreally scary.
So there's brain stuff thathappens then too.
And you know, the average agefor the first person to have
their kid is 29.
The average age for the personto get married is like 28.5.
Most people are like dealingwith college debt.
During this time, you're moving, you're changing friends.
Like, this period is one of themost powerful and impactful in
(06:40):
our lives, and I think forLindsay and I, in our podcast
and even in the book.
We just wanted to talk aboutthis period where we felt so
lost and we felt so alone and wefelt so confused and we felt
like we were doing all thethings but nothing that was
right, and we want to makepeople aware that change can be
for your greatest good, likeyour change was scary, like it
(07:01):
wasn't easy, but it was for yourgreatest good.
So change can be something thatleads you to greater
possibility, rather than down apath that is worse.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
Yeah, I, I, I just couldn't believe.
And then I'm like, holy moly,what's going to happen when I'm
60?
Like this is going to happenagain.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
Which is amazing.
But again you're living.
This is the thing you'reprobably going to be living,
aligned, so it's going to bebeautiful, it's going to be good
, it's like it's all to help youin your alignment, it's all
supportive of you.
I think we have such aninteresting relationship
culturally with change where wefeel like change is scary.
Change is something we need tobrace for.
But I think most of yourlisteners and most people that I
(07:41):
know they have a vision for alife that they want.
They have a vision for arelationship that they want, and
to have that they need tochange their life now.
They need to change theirrelationships now, and so the
change can be something that canreally lead us to being more
happy in living a life that welove.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
So during I mean, you've been really open about
your breakup, which was, it's,huge because you guys were
together for 10 years.
So how did you, how did youembrace the scary part?
Because if somebody islistening to this and they could
either be in a relationshipwhether it's romantic, a
friendship, maybe a career thatthey're into and they're like,
(08:17):
great, yes, I'm feeling this.
I do want the change.
It's the fear that keeps themsort of stuck.
How did you get past knowingthat this wasn't for your
highest good anymore and thenmove through the fear in order
to actually create that changein your life?
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Yeah, so in my relationship, when you're in a
relationship that long, so in myrelationship when you're in a
relationship that long, it's notjust one day I was like time to
go.
I was struggling for a while Iwould say three years at that
point and we were married.
So I was struggling in themarriage.
I didn't really understand mybiggest question in that
relationship was what is anormal hard in relationships and
(08:55):
what is misalignment?
What is a normal part of growthand deepening in the fears that
come up of intimacy and all ofthat, and what is truly me just
forcing something or livingunaligned.
So I lived that question for alot of the time.
So I think, for anyone listeningyou know, my process was to
really deepen and learn all ofthe lessons that I was supposed
(09:15):
to learn in that container.
So to make sure that I wasbeing loving and soft, to make
sure that I was trying as hardas I could to see their
perspective, to make sure that Iwas becoming a better
communicator.
I was doing all the things.
So I spent a few years justreally shape-shifting, changing,
evolving, doing all thesethings in the relationship
container so that when I hadthat hit and that clarity of
(09:38):
leaving.
I knew that I was doing it,knowing that I had done
everything that I, you know,cleaned my I'm sure you had that
too Like I completely cleanedmy side of the street before I
left.
And then, when there was amoment where it was our
anniversary and I don't know ifyou ever had a relationship
where you'd fight every holiday,yes, and birthday, oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
What do you mean?
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Like Christmas, thanksgiving anniversary,
valentine's day, like it wasjust like anniversary.
We're fighting, of course, like, and so we were just fighting.
And at that time my goal was tobe soft.
I was like I'm going to besuper soft and loving, and so I
was being, as much as I could,super soft and loving when we
were fighting.
And I was sitting on the cornerof the bed and I heard my soul
(10:21):
say for the right person, youdon't need to be perfect, you
just need to be yourself.
And I had felt like for so longin that relationship I had to be
perfect, I had to communicatethe right relationship.
So it was a mix of me doing alot of work internally in that
relationship, us going totherapy, trying everything that
(10:42):
I could so that I could feelclear in my heart that I had
done everything I could in thisrelationship and I had gotten
the benefits of a spiritualrelationship container.
And then, two, it was waitingfor the clear sign from my soul.
Um, and just as a last point,like a 2.0, 2.0 or three, I also
was like there, I don't knowwhat's out there, but I know
(11:03):
it's better than this.
It was so clear that, like Idon't even know what dating is
like, what the world is like,but it has to be better than
this, because I am miserable, sothat was sort of my process
with it.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
Yeah, I think that's great advice.
I remember when I broke up withOlivia's dad, I I tried
everything, and I did it more sothat if Olivia ever asks me
when she's older what happened,I can look at her in the eye and
say I tried everything I couldto repair that.
And I think that's reallyimportant, especially in a
marriage, because you never wanta second guess because I don't
know about you, but for me, like, second guessing is one of my
(11:40):
favorite hobbies.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
Oh, I've gotten better at it but it's a lot.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
Okay, wait, you spoke up.
You obviously co-host this andyou co-wrote this with Lindsay,
who's your best friend, and youtalk about friendship audits in
the book too, and I think that'simportant.
You talk about it on thepodcast as well.
How have you kept such ahealthy relationship with
Lindsay when you guys are bestfriends, co-writers, co-hosts on
the podcast and basicallybusiness partners?
(12:07):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
So first just to explain the friendship audit
which you mentioned.
So for anyone that doesn't know, in the book I talk about doing
a friendship audit, and thereason why I talk about this is
because so many women that Iwork with and know in our
community and I would even saymyself are women that want to do
it all.
I want to be everyone's bestfriend, I want to be everyone's
first call, I want to show upfor everyone.
(12:28):
I want to be the friend thatgets you flowers, that plans
your bachelorette, that justdoes everything, and that part
of me could essentially spend mywhole life just being the best
friend in the whole world.
And then there's also theperspective of there's a lot of
there's only so little time andthere's a lot of people that we
could spend it with.
We want to make sure we'respending it with the right
people, and I realized when Iwas in Los Angeles that I was
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sometimes spending my time withpeople that just wanted to spend
time with me, but I didn'treally feel the best around them
, and that I wasn't actuallyspending the most amount of time
of my life with the people thatI love the most and that the
people that I love the mostweren't getting the most of me,
they weren't being my number onepriority.
I think parents can often thinkof this, where it's like, you
know, the kids are the numberone priority, but oftentimes the
(13:12):
kids are not prioritized.
So when reality sets in of like, how am I actually spending my
time?
Am I actually spending it withthe friends that make me feel
the best, the people that I lovethe most, I thought about
something called a friendshipaudit where I really got clear
about, like, my A tier friends,my B tier friends and my C tier
friends.
And it doesn't need to besomething you share with anyone.
(13:33):
People don't need to know, butyou can just know in your mind,
like, who are the people thathave intimate access to me, who
are the people that I will doanything for, who are the people
that I will really show up forand who are the people that I
will have clearing conversationswith, I will speak my truth to.
And then B, who are the peopleI like to go out with, I like to
party, I like to see once amonth or once every other month
(13:58):
that I'm like really love, butmaybe we haven't like spent as
much time together, maybe wedon't have a situation that
makes us closer and then seefriends, social friends,
whatever.
So the friendship audit justhelps you get really clear and
crystallized.
So my friendship with Lindsay,so she's one of my soulmates,
you know she's one of the mostpowerful relationships of my
life.
So I think first it's a soulthing.
I think you know what it's like, you know with your fiance, you
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know what it's like with yourfriends, like so much of it's
truly the soul, frequency andexperience of being two
soulmates that were able toco-create something.
And then I think the secondthing about our relationship
that's kept us so strong, frombusiness partners to having
dreams together, you know,working together for 10 years is
the fact that we have a lot offreedom in our relationship.
So we've never been friendsthat felt like I knew better
than her, she knew better thanme, I had to do what she wanted
(14:44):
to do, she had to do what Iwanted to do.
Our paths have been verydifferent and as we've grown and
evolved we've been able to stayreally close but also stay
really free.
So when she wanted to move toNew York to be with her husband,
I was like cool, you got it,like I'm happy for you.
Obviously, I'm sad when Iwanted to do my thing with my
business.
She was able to be happy for meand free, and within the
(15:05):
freedom that's created bycreating a really secure
attachment through havingclearing conversations, through
showing up for one another,through honesty, through
transparency, through likeshared values.
So there's a lot of aspects toour relationship that I'm so
grateful serve as a template forme and my new relationships,
because I think for a lot ofwomen, female relationships can
be hard.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
Yes, so that's okay.
So then somebody might belistening to this going I want
that relationship that Lindsayand Krista have, but I feel like
there's no one in my life thatfills that bucket, like there's
no one in my life that fillsthat bucket.
And so if I do a friendshipaudit, what happens if no one's
left?
Because I hear women,especially closer to my age not
your age but saying like I losta lot of friendships, I don't
(15:48):
have as much time.
I want that special friendship,but how do I even make friends?
Like what do you think?
Speaker 2 (15:54):
Yeah, the friendship thing is huge.
Make friends, like what do youthink?
Yeah, the friendship thing ishuge.
I think, for me, first, when wedon't have the friends that we
want or the friends that we'relooking for, I think we have to
become the friend that we want.
You know, it's just likerelationships and dating Like
you want to have this like toptier, 10 out of 10 person Like
are you a 10 out of 10 woman?
And that doesn't mean you'rethe most beautiful or attractive
(16:14):
, but a woman that knows herworth and her value and like
brings a lot to the table.
Maybe it's intelligence, maybeit's charisma, maybe it's, you
know, power, whatever your thingis.
It's like you have to bring tothe table what you're looking to
receive.
So I have sculpted myself into awoman that's worthy of
friendships and relationships.
I spend a lot of time withmyself.
I pray, I do my own work.
(16:35):
I relationships.
I spend a lot of time withmyself, I pray, I do my own work
.
I, like am always in a processof something and I love people
really deeply.
But I remember periods in timein my life where I didn't feel
met by women, I didn't feel metby friends, and it's really
painful and lonely because thereis that desire for us to
connect.
And when you do have femalefriends, it's the most healing
thing on earth.
Female friendships are justincredible.
(16:57):
So I would say, first doingyour own work to really become
an amazing woman, that's worthyof amazing friendships.
And I know that sounds harsh,but it's true.
You have to become the personthat's going to have the energy
and vibration that attractsthose relationships and then I
would say, to invest in thefriendships you do have.
I think sometimes we're so busylooking outside to be like I
want that new friend, I wantthat new thing.
(17:18):
It's like try and meet your oldfriends with the new version of
you.
Try and deepen thatrelationship.
Try and have a more open,honest, vulnerable conversation
with them.
Try and bring a new energy tothat relationship and see if you
guys can evolve and growtogether.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
That's great advice.
I have an old friend of mine.
She and I have known each othersince we were 10 years old and
we would be very sarcastic witheach other because we've known
each other since we were 10.
And a few years ago we had thisdeep conversation of you're
kind of hurting my feelings, andshe was like you're kind of
hurting my feelings too.
And I was shocked and here Iwas thinking I've outgrown maybe
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that friendship.
But then I realized we bothgrew but we were both meeting
each other at that lower levelbecause we assumed that's what
we were both wanting.
And once we just freed eachother and said, no, I kind of
like the new version that youare and vice versa, like now we
have a whole new relationship.
So you'd be surprised when youbecome more vulnerable and you
think you've outgrown somebody.
(18:19):
Maybe it's just a conversationto sort of clear the air is all
that's needed.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
Oh, I love that I think in romantic relationships,
familial relationships,friendship relationships, you
always have to meet people atthat Like you're.
I think we subconsciously meetthem at the version we met, when
we assume that, oh, they'relike this, they're always
sarcastic, they're always jokingand it's like no, like you've
had so much life happen, she'shad so much life happen.
(18:44):
And so when we can kind of pullback the idea of the person as
who we thought they were or theperson who we want them to be,
and allow them to meet usdifferently, it's such a
beautiful thing Like that's trueintimacy, like how much closer
did you guys feel afterexpressing that it's wild?
Speaker 1 (19:01):
I just, I really do feel, and now I feel more open.
I'm able to tell her a lot ofother things too.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
Yeah, those, those oh my gosh, the vulnerability and
the intimacy of sharing thatwith someone is such a gift.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
So powerful and potent and it takes your
relationship to the next level.
But I think what you guys didwas so beautiful, was it's like
you know?
Oh, I realized that reallyhurts, like that doesn't feel
good.
And it was never passive,aggressive.
It was never, you know, you'reyou do.
It was never in an energy ofblame or shame.
It was like, oh, I'm, I'm justnot.
(19:34):
That doesn't feel good.
I'm saying how I feel, I'macknowledging how I feel and I'm
letting you in on theopportunity to help support me
in feeling better.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
Speaking of vulnerability, I think one of
the things I love about you andour walks and just talking is
not only how much we laugh.
We laugh so hard my old datinglife.
But I love how open you are.
But and again, you talked aboutso many different things things
in the book career,spirituality, your family, the
(20:04):
shoulds of our lives but what isthe most difficult thing for
you personally that you had tosort of open up about.
That was scary.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
It's a great question .
Um, I didn't talk about mydivorce in this because it
wasn't like necessarily part ofthat, so I remember omitting
that.
But I think the hardest partwas talking about the body
chapter.
So in the book I talk about thebody.
I talk about our relationshipas women to our bodies.
I believe it's one of my mostimportant things.
I speak about because so manywomen believe that their life
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happens on the other side oftheir body, being a different
way, being thinner, beingcurvier, whatever the things are
, and so many women holdthemselves back, make themselves
miserable, don't live their ownlives because they don't feel
like they're worthy of it,because their body is in a
certain way.
So I was someone that againstruggled with my body my whole
life.
So the first part of thatchapter I talk about, when I was
in Mexico I went to find thisdiet drug that like was told to
(20:59):
lose, that I told I would loseweight on it.
It was a prescription drug.
I had to go to a pharmacy and Ibought like three months supply
of this prescription drug thatI'd have to get a prescription
for in America, in Mexico, and Iwas like plotting all my trips
back to Mexico to start gettingthis drug, because once you
started taking it, you had totake it for the rest of your
life.
This was pre-Osempic days, soit was actually a thyroid
(21:21):
medication and it was for yourthyroid, but it's supposed to
make you lose weight, or I readit on Reddit something crazy,
like the mind of someone whostruggles with their body is so
insane.
You just go to the ends of theearth.
So sharing that story was reallyum, go to the ends of the earth
.
So sharing that story wasreally um, I just made me sad of
(21:43):
how far I would go and I'venever shared it before and I
never ended up taking the drugs,thank God.
Um, so I'm very grateful forthat.
But I just was like, wow, thatwas like a very, very deep low
for me and very embarrassing.
And is that why you started themetamorphosis?
Yeah, yeah, so basically,metamorphosis is my body
transformation program.
So I believe that to change ourbodies, we need to change our
(22:03):
minds, and so in metamorphosis,it's like a spiritual approach
to weight loss and loving ourbodies, and that's a lot of the
reason why it was because myjourney was so painful and I
realized that the thing thatchanged my body, because my
body's transformed since mydivorce a few years ago was that
I was feeling my feelings, Iwas speaking my truth, I was not
associating food as a copingmechanism or to numb and I was
(22:26):
being more present and allowingwith life, and that freedom and
liberation and relationship thatI had to food and my body and
God was what really helpedtransform me into living in a
body that I love and I celebrateand I'm excited by, and I want
that for every woman.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
Well, so then, what changed from the, what the?
From the girl who was going toMexico she was going to Cabo
every three months for this,these pills, to what like what
slapped you in the face?
Yeah, and change that.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
So I remember I was walking across.
It was just a normal day and Iwas walking across my kitchen
and I was in my normal patternof my morning routine.
How many calories am I going tohave today?
What is the food I'm going tohave to be in those calories?
What is the workout I'm goingto do to burn those calories off
?
How many steps am I taking?
How many macros?
(23:19):
I was just in my Tetris gamemath experience of deciding all
my numbers.
How much did I weigh?
I just got off the scale.
How much should I weigh?
How much do I need to weigh forthis?
And I was just in the loop of itand there was a moment of like,
click of consciousness, of like, oh, wow, like this has been my
life and I think at this timeI'm going to accept that I'm
(23:42):
going to live a life like this,that for the rest of my life I'm
going to fully be stuck in thisdynamic, and that surrender was
like a true surrender, like Itruly was, like I give up, like
I completely give up.
This is, this is just what it is.
Maybe next lifetime I'll livein a body that I love, I'll feel
free, and that surrender waslike something I didn't plan for
but was the most powerful thingbecause it created the
(24:04):
spaciousness around it so that Icould transform and evolve, and
it allowed possibility becauseI could see the truth of what I
was doing and what I was goingthrough.
And then, after that, doinginternal family systems, which
is parts work.
It's a psychotherapy techniquethat I practice with my clients
and I do all the time.
It's so powerful for healingyour relationship with your body
, and then finding books likeWomen, food and God is one of my
(24:27):
favorite books of all time.
Doing work on the mother wound,I was really taking it from a
more spiritual perspective thanthe strategy because I'd lived
in that my whole life.
So finally adding thatspiritual element was really
what helped change everything.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
Do you feel like everyone has their thing?
Like for what?
Some?
For you, could it be food, forsomebody, it could be shopping
or gambling or just fill in theblank?
Do you feel like I told you onyour podcast, for me for a long
time it was drinking, because Iand then one day I'm like I'm so
tired of thinking aboutdrinking whether or not I'm
(25:02):
going to drink.
I'm not going to drink If I golike I was so freaking tired of
it that I was just enoughalready, enough of using
something outside of my own bodyto escape my mind.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
Yes, yes, oh, my gosh , I do think, you know I
wouldn't say everybody, cause Idon't know but I do think we
humans, we all have somethingshopping, gambling, porn, um,
drinking, you know, drugs, allof these things because we as
children, for most of us, we'renever taught to feel our
feelings.
No, don't cry, don't worry, youknow stuff.
Oh, here's this toy, here'sthis thing.
(25:36):
So for our lives we've beendistracted from feeling,
entertainment, parents, you know, trying to distract us all of
these things.
So it's a natural inclinationfor us to want to distract from
feeling.
For me that was food.
I also found food as a reallystable place to numb and to cope
.
If my parents were going crazyand I couldn't find regulation
(25:57):
with them, I could regulate withfood.
Food's an amazing regulationtool.
So I think we find our thingsto regulate and numb and I think
in our life it's kind of ourwork to try and break out of
those cycles.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
Absolutely, and in addition I mean you seriously
have like 45 different jobs.
I do retreats, so you-.
It's like embarrassing.
No, I love it.
I love it.
I hate it because I never getto see you, but I love that
you're always doing somethingfun.
You do these amazing retreats.
How, in all the time that youspend this really intimate time
(26:28):
with women, what's um, what'ssomething that keeps getting
like that people are feelingthat sort of uh, like a theme
that you feel like women are aregrappling with.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
Oh yeah, um yeah.
So, for anyone listening, Iwork one-on-one with women as a
coach, and then I also doretreats in places like Ibiza
and Switzerland, and they'rereally luxury and just really
deep and authentic and beautiful, and I'm it's like my favorite
work to do.
I would say the thing that Isee women struggling most with
right now is the desire to be intheir feminine.
So many women right now feellike they're burnt out and they
feel like they're living theirlives and they're masculine and
they deeply desire to beconnected to their feminine, to
(27:08):
their essence, and there's this,this disconnect, where they're
not feeling safe enough to be intheir feminine, they're not
feeling the ability to be intheir feminine, and so it's so.
It's definitely the biggesttheme that I see.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
Yeah, I told you I went to Hoffman back in 23.
Gosh, and one of the biggestthings that I took away from it
is that soft is strong, becausefor me, hard was strong and I
was hard all of my life and Ithink that once I was able to
drop down into my feminine, mywhole life changed.
(27:40):
I was able to ask for help,become softer with my friends,
with my family, my parents.
I forgave them, you know,because they're human as well
and everything changed when Iwas, I just stopped carrying
that weight and I feel like weare all doing that and it's
exhausting.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
Yes, I think I'm not usually like blame the system
person, but I do think that oursystem does not set up women to
be well.
Women are now overeducated thanmen.
We're out earning men.
We're not only the breadwinnersnow in a lot of cases but we're
also taking care of the kids.
We're also maintaining thespiritual connection in the
(28:19):
relationship, like women arevery attuned, so they're kind of
monitoring the health of therelationship.
We're also like there asmothers, there as sisters, there
as friends.
So the kind of naturalinclination for women to be
community-based, sociallyoriented, to be givers, is sort
of being exacerbated and takenadvantage of by the current
system.
And women are just findingthemselves like having no energy
(28:42):
, no time for themselves,feeling depleted, feeling
feeling like they can't be softbecause the system doesn't
really allow people.
If you're in the normal matrixsystem nine to five it doesn't
really allow you to be soft.
You know, if you were in acorporate job I was in the
corporate world I would cry allthe time.
But I'm like I'm like not well,so I would just cry all the
time.
But I'm like I'm like not wellso I would just cry all the time
.
But it's not normal to becrying at work.
(29:04):
It's not normal to be emotingand expressing your feelings.
We're on a system and cyclethat doesn't support a women's
cycle.
You know women have 28 daycycles, men have daily cycles.
Like we're just kind of notreally setting women up for
success here and I think it'sbeen really heartbreaking for me
for women to see themselves umnever living in a life that they
(29:26):
love because they feel likethey have to do so much for
other people.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
Oh, especially for me , like growing up with my
parents are Cuban and that'sthat's what we were.
That was celebrated for you toabandon yourself constantly for
your husband, the children, thehouse, the dog, the cat, the
bird, your job, and then at theend of the day, if you have like
(29:50):
a minute, then you could gotake a bath, Like what.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
Yeah, I remember I'll never forget Oprah.
I think it was in the ninetiesand she had a show on where this
person was talking about to thewomen in the audience and she
was like you guys should putyourself first, you need to fill
your cup up first, you need totake care of yourself first.
And all the women in theaudience started booing at her
(30:14):
because they were like, no, wecan't.
We have to take care of thekids and the family and all this
stuff.
And they were so upset by thatconcept and that idea and it's
so powerful because I thinkwe're seeing that now, where
we're understanding that we needto take care of ourselves and
we need to find balance and weneed to find, you know, purpose
and we need to find boundariesand more clarity and things.
(30:35):
But, um, I also just on thefeminine thing as a second point
.
I also want to be mindful wherewomen are using everything they
can to like feel like they'redoing something wrong.
I think women have this naturalinclination to always want to
be better, to do better, to feellike there's something wrong
with them, and I think sometimesthe conversation around the
feminine makes them feel likethey're always doing something
(30:56):
wrong.
Where I also want to kind ofalleviate that, where it's like
the feminine is created withsafety within yourself of course
, but a masculine also canprovide that safety really well,
and I don't know a lot ofmasculines in this moment that
are really at the point wherethey're holding women in a
healthy masculine frame, and sothere is a lot of other factors
that are not really supportingthem in their femininity.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
I mean that's a whole other conversation, that's like
an entire other podcast that Icould talk for hours about.
So I love that you started thebook sort of talking about how
you and Lindsay started thepodcast, because you started
with like a $25 microphone, ifI'm remembering it correctly,
like in the closet, and then youtried to do something at a
restaurant and I think a lot ofpeople wait until they have the
(31:41):
perfect camera, the perfect this, the perfect weight, the
perfect outfit to do the things,and I love that you just did it
and obviously it's a hugesuccess.
But I know the book is not justfor somebody who's turning
almost 30.
So, in your words, who isalmost 30?
Who is this book for?
Speaker 2 (32:02):
I think it's for anyone that feels behind in life
, that feels like they don'thave the job, the purpose, the
career, they don't have therelationship, they don't have
that thing that they're kind ofhere and looking for, and it's
just the reminder that you'renot behind.
You're becoming, because somany of us feel like we're doing
something wrong and we need tobe somewhere that we're not.
I still feel like that todaywith the life that I live.
(32:23):
I still feel like I'm behind ina lot of different areas.
So for it's people that feelthat way and it's anyone that
has a relationship with change.
You know this book is about theSaturn return period, but all
the information in it is all thelessons and things that I've
learned over the years hosting apodcast.
In it is all the lessons andthings that I've learned over
the years hosting a podcastinterviewing some of the best
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and brightest you.
Recently we have past the micsections from people like Mel
Robbins, jay Shetty, glennonDoyle.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
I was like what?
So, he's talking about past themic.
It's just these little blurbsin the book that it says past
the mic and it's these quotesfrom people that were on the
podcast.
But it's not.
I mean, it's some prettyamazing people and you have had,
you guys have interviewedprobably every single person in
this world, in, you know, thespiritual mindset growth world.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
So out of all these people that you had, I just love
that you you've went back andshared the nuggets, so it's kind
of like the best of yourpodcast yes, it's the best and
most of the people that we havequoted are like 40s and 50s, so
it's not like you're going toread a quote from a 30-something
.
Most of them are people thatare older, that have been
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through it and that have seen it, and we really also wanted
people to have a betterrelationship with change, better
relationships with their body,better friendships.
Better relationships with theirbody, better friendships,
better relationships to purpose,god and their soul.
It's a very meaty, hefty book.
(33:53):
If you know me, I'm not a lightperson.
I'm super deep.
I'm always going to get to it.
You are fun.
I'm so fun yeah, I'm actually,but we're fun together.
Speaker 1 (33:59):
Well, you're a lot of fun, but that's I mean your
personality, and I haven't metLindsay yet, but your
personality came out so much inthe book of being raw, still
having light moments, and Ithink everyone is going to
benefit by getting the book.
I'm so excited for you.
One last thing, though you werejust talking about how you are
still dealing sometimes with thenot doing enough, and I was
(34:22):
just talking to my best friend,trish, about it this morning,
where I go from this ebb andflow, where I'm like let it flow
, just receive from the universe, to why isn't this person
calling?
I should call them back, Ishould email them right now.
And so do you deal with thatsame sort of juxtaposition in
your life as well?
If yours is by?
Speaker 2 (34:41):
the hour, mine is by the minute.
This whole process with thebook has been a tornado of
emotions and feelings of I'msurrendered, it's all good, let
God show me the way.
And then the next second I'mlike I am absolutely not doing
anything right.
I am absolutely not doinganything right.
This is, you know, that journeyI'm on right now and I think
(35:03):
it'll kill me because it's sucha tough one.
But that's such a deep question.
You know, the idea and thoughtof surrendering in life is not
small, like we as people havebelieved that we've created our
lives and our experience and ourexistence and in a lot of ways
we do co-create.
But to surrender truly is not asmall feat and I think that's
(35:26):
my biggest struggle right now ismy deep desire to surrender.
I really want to surrender mylife over and just have more
miracles and magic and have moreof what's meant for me come for
me.
But I also want it to lookexactly how I want it to look
like.
Speaker 1 (35:39):
So it's like what is that?
I know I've I struggle, want itto look exactly how I want it
to look like.
So it's like what is that?
I know I struggle with it too,but I realized in talking to
Trish this morning what we weresaying is when I embody the
person that is in the future,when I really live that woman of
the ideal life, is where Icould be more calm.
(35:59):
It's when I'm acting erraticand making silly decisions is
when I start feeling like I haveto push and hustle yes From
fear.
Speaker 2 (36:06):
It's that, like you know, and that's that when we
talk about the femininity,that's the maiden energy.
The maiden energy is likepeople pleasing have to make it
all happen.
You have to like, force it andpush it and you know the, the
true feminine is in receptivemode.
But I feel like it's more aboutjust alignment.
I'm like when I'm like, okay,how can I do this?
How can I do that?
I'm like I just need to trulyget aligned, because things that
happen for me happen when I'maligned, the things that are
(36:28):
meant for me happen at that time.
Speaker 1 (36:30):
Well, so then, how do you, how do you Krista align
yourself?
Speaker 2 (36:40):
Prayer prayer every morning.
So there's a really specificperiod in time for your brain
when you're waking up in themorning and right before bed
it's really primed forinformation, it's primed for
affirmations.
It's primed so it's very tender.
You don't want to get on yourphone because it can take in
information and really apply itto things.
So I get up and pray right awayand sometimes that's
affirmation, sometimes that'sbooks that I read, sometimes
that's just me with God and thatreally helps align me because
it just kind of clears anythingthat's in the way between me and
(37:04):
what I came here to do.
And then removing toxicrelationships and friendships
and people from my life thatkeep me from my alignment, I
think is really really huge aswell.
I love you so much.
Speaker 1 (37:15):
Obviously, if you're listening, you're going to get
in touch with Krista onInstagram.
I'll have a link to the book,her retreats, her podcast, all
of the podcasts I love you.
Thank you so much for being onthe show, thank you for your
friendship, thank you forcreating this book and also just
being such an inspiration forme.
(37:36):
You know, and I think a lot oftimes we don't tell our friends
how much they inspire you, andyou inspire me so much to live a
better life and to think muchbigger than I sometimes allow
myself.
So thank you.
Speaker 2 (37:50):
Oh, man, you inspire me with your joy, with your
clarity, with your willingness.
I just adore you and for me ittakes a lot for people to get in
.
I'm very open and warm andfriendly, but for people to get
in Like I'm very open and warmand friendly, but for people to
really get in with me is veryspecific and you have that
perfect formula that I allow inwhere you're like funny and
playful and deep and real andauthentic and I'm like you.
Can you get access to my heart?
Speaker 1 (38:15):
I love you.
Oh, yes, everybody.
Thank you for listening, please, thank you, guys.
You're not already followingher?
Go get the book.
She's also going on a book tourall across the country, so I'll
.
Where's the book tour on yourwebsite?
Can you tell everybody where tofind it?
Speaker 2 (38:31):
Almost 30.com, you can find everything we're going
to Nashville, new York, losAngeles and maybe someplace else
that I forget right now.
Speaker 1 (38:39):
So and then also, you have the best promo codes.
Where are you all your pro?
You said you have.
Speaker 2 (38:43):
Where are the promo codes Just at almost 30.com
slash partners, but you can justhonestly try almost 30 at any
place.
We've we've worked with likehundreds of brands over the
years that are like the best inhealth and wellness, so people
literally just use almost 30 allthe time at random places.
Speaker 1 (38:58):
There you go.
That's your life hack.
I know, yes, that's theredesigning life hack.
Speaker 2 (39:03):
I love you.
I love you.
Talk to you later.
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