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Speaker 1 (00:03):
This is remember when with Harvey Degan on Perth six pr.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Open the door, Richard, open the door and let me in.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
Open the door, Richard, rich dot.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
You that door, which is exactly what Richard has done.
Is in the studio sitting opposite me.
Speaker 4 (00:41):
Now when you opened the car park door, that was
more important.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
And we uh turned a bit of audio on for
a bit loudly.
Speaker 4 (00:49):
Well somebody scraping him off the ceiling, folks, somebody had
had the headphones volume up to full board. It's blown
my brains out through my nose.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
I think as long as you can hear yourself from me.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
And he speak up, mate, you're going to talk about
some very couple at least a very important parks.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
We've done a lot of the gardens and parks in
Perth and about I think it was three weeks ago
I gave a talk to the friends of Bowl Park,
which is only up the road from me and the
dog and I very often walk up there to about
the history of the park and it's a fascinating history.
And that made me think, well we'll do that. And
the oldest national park in Western Australia is John Forest
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National Park. But first I think it's quite interesting to
know how national parks worldwide came into being, and the
idea for them originated in the early nineteenth century in America,
when an artist George Catlin expressed concerns about the wilderness
areas of the USA. And it has to be said
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at about the same time that sort of thing was
happening in America, and on a trip to Dakota in
eighteen thirty one, Catlin became very concerned about the westward
movement of the urbanization, basically the effects it was having
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on Indian civilization, wildlife, and most importantly the wilderness. And
he wrote of his dream that there might be an
I quote, by some great protecting policy of government, preserved
in a magnificent park and National Nations park, containing man
and beast in all wilderness and freshness of their nature's beauty.
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And subsequently, in eighteen sixty four, Yosemite Valley in California
was donated to the United States Congress to be present
as a state park, and in eighteen seventy two it
was reserved as a public park.
Speaker 5 (03:08):
Or pleasuring ground as they called it.
Speaker 4 (03:11):
Yes, yes, the use of language has changed over the years.
I think a public park or pleasuring ground for the
benefit and enjoyment of people, and it was administered by
the Department of Interior. And Yosemite was the first designated
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national park in the world. And interestingly, seven years later
Royal National Park in New South Wales was declared and
that was the second national park in the world. And
that's south of Sydney and is stunning. I'd spent a weekend.
Speaker 5 (03:46):
In the park there.
Speaker 4 (03:47):
If people are interested in the history of the national
parks in America, there's a fabulous I think it's six
part documentary which you can find on the Public Broadcast
Survey Service. It was also on SBS and it's entitled
The National Parks America's Best Idea. Now I think it
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probably was their best idea. I think looking at some
of the ideas, I think it would have had to
have been well, yes, of course, of course, but it's
a wonderful story. And of course places like Yosemite are
just stunning and just as stunning. Quite frankly, I think
is John Forrest National Park and that covers today two
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six hundred and seventy six hectares and it is the
oldest reserve of that sort in Western Australia having been established,
as I said in the in the last century. The
initial reserve centered on Jane and Glenn Brooks and was
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set aside in eighteen ninety eight, and two years later
it was actually named Greenmont National Park and proclaimed an
A class reserve. Now, in eighteen ninety five the Reserves
and Parks Act by the State Government was passed, followed
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by a Land Act just three years later, and both
provided a degree of security for the parks and reserves
in Western Australia, so it made sure that they couldn't
be developed inappropriate ways. And in eighteen ninety eight, on
the recommendation of the Surveyor General at the time Harry Johnston,
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an area at Greenmont on the edge of Darling Range
was set aside, and in eighteen ninety nine, just one
year later, Permanent Reserves Act ensured the absolute safe future
of all of those parks. Now, in the early days,
Greenmont National Park more commonly known then as National Park,
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was managed by the Greenmont Road Board. And you know,
the Roads Boards had very limited funds available to carry
out any works in the park other than the construction
of a road to it. And in eighteen ninety six,
the Eastern Railways line over the Darling Range was opened
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and that went straight through the park, which was fine,
and actually it helped the park no end in a
strange way, because railway travelers saw the beauty of the
scenery and the waterfalls and the profusion of wild flowers
in the spring, and you know, that began to give
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it some public presence. Unfortunately, the railway not only drew
the public's attention, but for some seventy years of its operation,
it also brought brought into the park wind blown weed
seeds which were on the wagons that had come from
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other places, and that led to serious weed infestations competing
with the natural vegetation, and I think it's still probably
they're fighting it to this day. In the first thirty
years there was little development in the park and the
recreation area. But in nineteen eleven the Roads Board asked
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the Lands Department if anything could be done in the
way of an i quote, beautifying the west end of
the park near the York Road which is now the
Great Eastern Highway, And gradually they did some extra works
in there. But it's interesting, even though it was a
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nature reserve and a Class one reserve during the early
twentieth century, and in fact right the way through to
the nineteen fifties, timberlogging continued in the park and that
left a legacy of logging tracks and tree stumps and
die back disease. And dairy cattle were also allowed to
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run in the park close to the present glen Brook Dam,
and there was an orchard in the area below the
Rotary lookout site, so you know, it wasn't exclusively a
park as we would see it today with anything like that.
And even gold mining was carried out for a little
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while in the park, but it didn't have much success.
There wasn't a lot of gold up there, and caused
quite quite minimal damage, thank goodness. However, the extraction of
gravel for roads, there's quite a lot of gravel in
the park did cause a lot of damage by the
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removal of gravel and stone and earth, which was eventually
prohibited in nineteen twenty nine. That resulted from the State
Gardens Board taking over the management of the National Park
the year before.
Speaker 5 (09:07):
And I think we better pay some bills, y, yes,
shall we do?
Speaker 2 (09:10):
That'll do that, folks, We shall be back. You won't
even have time to have missed.
Speaker 5 (09:15):
A sunny.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
On Perth six PR. This is remember when with Harvey Dgan.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
Welcome back folks, and Richard Oftens in the studio with
me and he's taking a stroll around the park. We
could say not just your normal suburban park, but serious.
Speaker 5 (09:35):
And very serious parts.
Speaker 4 (09:37):
And we got to nineteen twenty nine when the State
Gardens Board started managing the National Park as it was called,
and improvements in the park began to take place. But
of course nineteen twenty nine was the start of the
Great Depression was which caused a lot of problems for everything.
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But there was a savior here in Western Australia, and
that was the philanthropist Sir Charles mcness who ran the
Iron Mungery on the corner of Hay Street and Barrack Street,
and he provided considerable funds for the employment of what
they called sustenance labor for various projects. So it was
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unemployed people got a job through this fund and they
found jobs for them to do, and it included works
at the Anchet Park which had come by then and
the National Park, and they started to create the National
Park recreation sites centered around James Brook and Glenbrook and
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the site was both picturesque and had the advantage of
being close to the railway line, which meant that day
as could come up from Perth and the suburbs very easily,
and thanks to mcness's funds, between nineteen thirty and thirty one,
a total of four hundred men were employed on the
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project of forming terraced gardens, paths and buildings, and they
also constructed a road into the park now known as
Scenic Drive and the dam across Jane Brook to provide
water for the gardens, and of course later that dam
was converted into a swimming pool from park visitors, which
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is still there to this day, and other buildings were
erected and other novelties like there was a wheelhouse from
a ship that was relocated to the park and that
helped considerably to help the people of Western Australia. And
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these people were also employed in cutting firewood which was
transported by rail from Hovier Station to Perth and distributed
by sustenance workers in the city to those who had
no money for fuel.
Speaker 5 (12:13):
So it was quite an incredible park.
Speaker 4 (12:18):
Exercise and the garden that they built was known as
the Garden in the Forest, which I thought was rather chice,
and the swimming pool was supplemented by another one called
the Rocky Pool, which had diving boards and so on.
So there were two park pools that were built by
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damming the streams, and there were picnic shelters which you
could hire for two shillings a day, very reasonable, and
photographs in the nineteen thirties show that Jane Brook Pool
and the Terraces Rising.
Speaker 5 (12:56):
Were very popular.
Speaker 4 (12:57):
Indeed, initially that visitors came to Hovia Station, which was
about two kilometers from the picnic area, but in nineteen
thirty six they built a special stop for the park itself.
Now it's interesting that quite a number of histories don't
actually say when it became John Forest National Park, but
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I did a bit of research and according to the
West Australian, it was announced that national park would be
renamed Forest Park John Forest National Park in memory of
that man, and it was part of the celebrations of
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his birth. And through the nineteen fifties, of course it
became even more popular as a park. It's had a
few fires and things like that, but you know, all
of these places survived. Nature is quite remarkable in doing that.
And in nineteen sixty one, the area of the park
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was increased to three four hundred and sixty eight acres,
so it's a pretty big area and is quite remarkable.
And there are now heritage trails around it, history trails
and the redundant railway cuttings and line no lines are a.
Speaker 5 (14:25):
Cycle track through the park.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
Good idea.
Speaker 4 (14:27):
Yeah, So it's absolutely fabulous and an interesting history.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
Indeed, that is and you mentioned Bold Park before. We've
got a couple of minutes of talking about Bold Park.
Speaker 4 (14:39):
Bold Park is quite remarkable. And again it was Henry Trigg,
who was one of the early builders in Perth, who
was granted five hundred acres of land around there to
quarry stone and he did that and the Tamala limestone
was used for a lot of buildings in Perth in
those early days. And Trigg eventually sold the park to
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Walter Padbury and in eighteen sixty nine it was purchased
by Henry and Somers Birch for one thousand pounds. Padbury
had put he graized cattle in the area and he'd
put an abattoir out there. Now, the Birch brothers were
butchers and I think they bought it because they could
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have the abbotoir and use that. It was then actually
purchased again at an auction because Henry's birch went bankrupt
and they had to sell his.
Speaker 5 (15:46):
Asset.
Speaker 4 (15:48):
But interestingly there was a court case because the chap
who bought it at auction didn't cough up the money
and so there was quite the a court case about it,
and eventually it was it was sold yet again and
it has the most amazing area. If you go to
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it from Stephenson Road, there's Camel Lake and that was
where they quarantined camels before they took them out to
the Eastern goldfields. In fact, Ernest Giles, the explorer who
came here in eighteen seventy five, he took his camels.
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He was here for a month, so the camels went
out to that lake. The lakers dried up now, but
that area was used for camels and they were still quarrying.
And then of course in the nineteen eighties where Triggs
Quarry was was turned in to the Amphitheater, which is
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quite by Diana Waldron who was the director of the
Perth City Ballet. And again it was a job's the
doll and that is still used as an outdoor theater.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
It's wonderful to remember seeing a bit of a country
music fan. Honest, I remember seeing John Williamson performing very
very good.
Speaker 4 (17:13):
Yeah, yes, and it's just one of those magical spots
because you sit and take your picnic and you look
back over the city and Bold Park. As I say,
I take the dog there very regularly and it's always
the walk of a million sniffs, but we get.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
Used to that, and also the dog does much the same.
Speaker 5 (17:32):
Well yes, yes, exactly exactly.
Speaker 4 (17:36):
But it has a long history of being one of
the special recreation site in Perth and it's managed now
by the King's Park Authority, so it's an adjunct to
other wonderful park.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
We've got some wonderful parks and recreation areas and we're
very very lucky, of course, Richard, that's fantastic, mate. That
was so enjoyable, as it always is, my friend, and
we shall look forward to reconvening this meeting in a
fortnight night's time.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
See you that che taught you open that door.