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Steve Marshall - Nine Perth's Broadcast Operations Manager,

"Celebrating 60 Years, Channel 9 Perth" Channel Nine Exhibition at the Perth Museum

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Speaker 1 (00:11):
This is Remember When with Harvey Degan on Perth six
PR Well, this Thursday is a very important day for
Channel nine Perth and those of us associated with nine,
as it is going to be the station's sixtieth birthday,
and to mark the occasion, there's an exhibition at the
WA Museum that gives everyone a chance to take a
journey back through time to get the feel of what

(00:33):
TV transmission was really like back in the day, back
in the sixties. Steve Marshall is Channel nine's broadcast operations
manager and I'm delighted to say he's agreed to join
us tonight on Remember When. Welcome Steve.

Speaker 2 (00:46):
Thanks Harvey. Great to be on the program here.

Speaker 1 (00:49):
Now to celebrate Channel nine perth sixtieth anniversary, can you
take the family on our journey back through the archives
to experience the magic of television and witness how it
helped shape and in four on the WA community from
nineteen sixty five to the present day. In broad terms,
what is there to see what's on at the exhibition?

Speaker 2 (01:08):
Well, the exhibition at the WA Museum is quite exciting.
There's a lot of things for people to learn, a
lot of things for people to look at one of
the very first black and white studio cameras is on
display as well as one of the very first editing
desks is down there as well, and some modern cameras
and a few other bits and pieces to have a
look at, and of course the classic Stump cam that

(01:30):
was mainly developed in Perth with a little bit of
help from the Eastern States, but we like to claim it.
But more than that, more than that, there's a little
bit of information about all the personalities that have been
through the Channel nine Perth doors over the years, as
well as the programs that we've created along the way.
So I think there's something in it for everyone if
they head to the museum. But also even more to that,

(01:52):
there's a one and a half hour special this Thursday
night that also brings back a lot of memories and
I know for a lot of your listeners, Harvey, there's
some great moments in there. For example, there's a little
bit on the launch of the Endeavor. There's a big
section on the America's Cup, which was of course so
big for us here in wa and a few things

(02:13):
like that. Plus there's some early black and white vision
as well for people to kind of reminisce and say, ah, yes,
I remember the old four to three grainy black and
white stuff.

Speaker 1 (02:22):
Yeah, there was a black tie opening ceremony way back
in June nineteen sixty five. I noted among those present
were the wa Governor of the day, Sir Douglas Kendrew,
and the Premier of the day, David Brand And so
was the co founder and chairman of Swan Television, which
by the way, is Channel nine, Dennis Culloty. Now, the

(02:44):
arrival of nine into the market heralded a big leap
in television competition in Perth, Steve, because now there were
three channels to choose from. And I think one of
the most memorable quotes of all time was uttered on
that night by Dennis Culloty when he said it takes
two plus seven to equal nine.

Speaker 2 (03:08):
Absolutely, and I love that quote, and I'm glad you
remember that one. Of course, you know, it was a
very different time back then. I mean it was before
the Internet, that was before mobile phones, so television was
massive in the town and there was a lot of
things that went on in terms of programs that the
public and the audience really embraced. I mean, in those
early days, Not only were we presenting the news, and

(03:31):
that was a big part of what we did right
from the very beginning, but there was a lot of
entertainment programming as well, and that included things in the
seventies like Spotlight, which was a talent program. There were
other talent programs for younger viewers in the form of
Zoom and then in the eighties pertas Young Entertainers. But
there was also in those early days there was Money Machine,

(03:52):
which was Tom's Money Machine, which was a basically a
TV competition program, and there's been others well along the way.
So it was really I guess television in those early
days was really a big part of the entertainment for people.

Speaker 1 (04:09):
Yeah, it was, and we mentioned the competition factor and
it was gome on when nine entered the market. But
what I found quite curious, and well, I worked for
the opposition for a few years for about ten for
about ten years, but what I found curious, and I
wasn't around quite at the start of television or Channel

(04:32):
nine's entry into television here in Perth, but I found
it curious when I got to learn that despite the
fierce competition at nine and seven, they formed a bit
of a sub company, if I can call it that,
to give them better buying power for the interstate and
international programs that were available. And they tossed a coin,

(04:55):
as I understand it, and well nine might have won
the toss called heads, Yes, so they got the first pick,
and then seven got the second pick, and so forth
and so on. I thought it was eminently sensible, and
the winners were the viewers.

Speaker 2 (05:09):
Well, that's correct. Back in those days, that was very
much the case, because it was before, as I say,
mobile phones and all of the internet technology that we
have today, and even before the way of satellite in
many respects and programs came to us basically on Panhamm
flights believe it or not, and quantas flights on videotape
or film, and they had to be made up. So

(05:30):
it was just an easier way for the local stations
to get that programming in. And then, like you say,
on occasion it be a regular meeting, that'd be a
toss of a coin, and you'd hope, hope to get
the one you wanted. But as you say, towards the
end of the seventies, things started to get very very competitive,
and I guess the one that was really the one
that kind of was the tipping point was the Mike

(05:52):
Wolsh Show because it was on Channel seven and then
it moved over to Channel nine as nine became tightly
associated with the nine network over and that was really
when things started to kick off in terms of those
competition days.

Speaker 1 (06:05):
Yeah, very very interesting days they were. Look, I hope
you've got a little bit more time up your sleeve
Steve for us tonight, because there's lots more stuff I
want to talk about in regard to Channel nine sixtieth birthday,
So if you don't mind, we will pause and pay
a few bills our own Channel nine to be very
pleased to hear me say that, I am quite sure,
and I'm quite sure, and we'll be back shortly until

(06:29):
midnight on perth six PR. This is remember when with
Harvey Degan. Welcome back, folks, and I'm having a chat
to Steve Marshall. Now, Steve is Channel nine's broadcast operations
manager and the reason he's having a chat to us
tonight just to tell us all about an exhibition and
reflect on the last sixty years because on Thursday it

(06:51):
will be Channel nine per sixtieth birthday Steve, I want
to go back to that first SDW nine transmission I
point thirty on Saturday, the twelfth of June from the
studios and Dineller Premier Brand officially opened the station. And
then perhaps our listeners will be interested in what followed.
It was a documentary film called Montage of Perth, and

(07:15):
then that's correct, yeah, in a couple of classic movies
Guys and Dolls and the World's Greatest Showman, which is
about P. T. Barnum of course, So that was on
the that was on the very first.

Speaker 2 (07:24):
Night, absolutely, and it was it was an interesting night,
I guess, because it was a star stuted event the opening.
It was in the studios, and it was over one
hundred guests and it was really a really special night,
I guess. But that was all condensed down into about
five or ten minutes for broadcast, and then the station

(07:45):
just really got into the business of presenting entertainment. And
that's the way that it's been ever since, I guess.
And you know, in those early days, there were some
great programs that I guess people will remember and love
from those days. And not only that the stuff that
was brought in, also the stuff that was made locally,
and I mean we had you know, you were talking

(08:07):
earlier about that competition that fears competition, and it truly
was like that. I remember in those early days, someone
you'll remember was working at Channel seven at the time
and switched over to Channel nine. We had Alan Graham
one of the early announcers of newsreaders on Channel nine,
and Lloyd Lawson and then Peter Dean Decides and joined

(08:27):
us on Channel nine. So there was a lot of
that going on at that time as well.

Speaker 1 (08:32):
There was indeed, yeah, blessed Peter. He did some work
here for us at six PR for a while and
we're very sad when we learned that he had passed.
Now you touched on this aspect before, Steve, but all
the early transmissions on TV in those days were in
black and white. It was about ten years before color
TV came to Perth. And it was funny because a

(08:54):
lot of people, I don't think we ever did, but
a lot of people they went and got colored cellophane
and they used to tape it to the screen. Really yeah,
the screen on the television sets to simulate color. And
to say that it wasn't exactly a perfect reproduction of
what was going on is an understatement, but people did

(09:15):
that sort of stuff, and of course when they couldn't
afford a TV, they go down to the shops and
watch them from outside.

Speaker 2 (09:22):
Being absolutely and I remember those sorts of stories, and
I remember that, you know. I mean, these days we
take everything for granted because people can watch streaming services
on their phone and their iPads, and there's a TV
in every room. But back in those days, people really
did gather around the television set. And there's this wonderful
story in the special that goes to where this Thursday
night at thirty on night there wonderful the very lovely

(09:44):
Jenny Seat and who I'm sure you're quite familiar with
in your listeners. She tells a great story about one
particular day when she said, look, look for us. We're
trying a new experiment today. We're doing a test and
there's going to be a color transmission and she said
the switchboard went wild, but of course it was full.
So we talk about that in the program, which is
a really lovely story. But I mean it's interesting because,

(10:06):
like you say, nineteen sixty five, we started by nineteen
seventy five, the studio cameras had changed from the first
the first black and white models to the second black
and white models, and then we were getting ready for
color models because nineteen seventy five Channel nine per in
actual fact broadcasts the first color news in the country.
So that's the other thing about Channel nine. We did

(10:28):
a lot of first we really, I guess that's the
whole point of competition. You know, it brings a lot
of that sort of edginess and what can we do
before everybody else? And there was a few things that
we've tried over the year, some that worked and were
massive successes. And you know, you talk to stumpcam, that
that's now, I mean, that's everywhere. That's led to helmet
cam and race can and a whole other load of

(10:49):
other innovations. But it really began, you know, I guess
the first time it was used was that a match
at the Whacker, and then the long slog began to
try and get the cricket authorities and the nine network
essentially to approve its use. But look at it now.
There wouldn't be a cricket game on TV without.

Speaker 1 (11:06):
Stumpcam, absolutely right. Yeah, there were quite a few first
words there. I think I'm right in saying that SDW
nine was the first station in Perth to commence a
twenty four hour broadcasting, was it not.

Speaker 2 (11:18):
Yeah, that was in the mid eighties. It was about
nineteen eighty four. I think, yeah, we were the first
ones to do it, and I looked everyone's followed since
and we've been there, and I mean, you know, and
then as the millennium came round. Now we've got multi
channels in the form of you know, nine GEM and
nine Go and the other competitors they've got multi channels
as well. There's perhaps too much TV out there for

(11:40):
folks at the moment.

Speaker 1 (11:41):
Yeah, we should. Of course. Steve mentioned the part that
a pelathon has played over the years a very significant
part of WA history. Since its introduction in nineteen seventy nine,
Pilithon raised more than fifty one million dollars over that period.

Speaker 2 (11:56):
Yeah, well, Harvey, I just corrected there slightly. I think
it started in nineteen seventy five. Seventy nine was a
really critical year because that was the first year that
we tipped a million dollars in fundraising for the year.
So that was a really important year for us. But
I guess what's really good about a Peloton is the
fact that we've helped so many people along the way.

(12:17):
It was a really integral part of the station in
those early days. I guess today we continue in different
ways we support the community and as a whole range
of ways in terms of partnerships with things like HbF
Front for a reason. But Appealothon really was that thing
that brought the whole town together and talking about something
special that happened in a Pelothon. Greg Schultz was the

(12:39):
music director for many many years for the broadcast. He
also worked on other programs where we had music like
Perth Young Entertainers. But Greg was interviewed in the special
that airs on Thursday night and he tells a great
story about the late great Ricky May. Now he was
dubbed mister Apelothon as he came over so many times
and gave so much of his time. Great little story

(13:00):
in the special about a song that he was doing
on one Appeal Fon evening when he was singing what
a wonderful world. But something kind of goes a little
bit astray a part way through the song and you'll
have to watch, I guess on Thursday night to find
out there's a lovely story about Greg and Ricky's time together.

Speaker 1 (13:20):
Great stuff. Well, just before I let you go, Steve
and I really enjoyed our discussion. I'm sure our listeners
have as well. Let's recap on the Channel nine exhibition
at the museum. Where can we find it? I think
it's pretty visible, is it not upstairs?

Speaker 2 (13:34):
So you can go into the museum in the city
and it's upstairs. There's a whole section there and if
people are there later in the evening or you're around
north Bridge in the evening, you'll also be able to
go past the museum and see a special projection that
we've set up as well that projects on the old
jail part of the museum. But yeah, the museum that

(13:56):
goes live officially tomorrow. That museum exhibition and the special
is on Channel nine this Thursday night at seven thirty,
and it's got lots of interesting interviews in there for everyone.
I just mentioned a few names, Jenny set and Joebeth Taylor,
Peter Harries from those early days as well as Jenny
Dunstan and of course we can't forget Terry Spence who

(14:17):
was a news director in those early days, and Terry
Willisy as well. So it's a really exciting program that
I hope if you always enjoy it.

Speaker 1 (14:24):
Yeah, we'll I'll certainly be watching it, and I will
enjoy it no doubt at all. Steve, a great pleasure
and a privilege to talk with you tonight. Thanks for
taking us through the last sixty years of TV on
Channel nine, and all the very best for the special
and for the exhibition. It is a muss see.

Speaker 2 (14:39):
Thanks for your Tom Harvey really enjoyed it.
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