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March 26, 2025 60 mins

#554 Philip Schofield’s Diabolic Pitchfork - Philip Schofield’s Diabolic Pitchfork - It’s been snow day this week and Rich muses unsuccessfully on whether there’s a place when snow is neither exciting or banal for children and how snow promises much but always delivers tears. His guest is musician and actor (no, I am not doing it) Chesney Hawkes. They talk about growing up in a musical household, kissing Julia Sawalha, becoming a pop sensation at 19 and being bullied by adults who should have known better, the choice between leaning into his most famous hit or backing away from it, how love saved him from self-destruction, what Chesney’s autobiography might be called, whether his early success is a curse or a blessing, appearing in an advert with an orangutang, dancing nude in a stately home and Rich’s plans for Chesney’s grave.


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