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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Guys some another edition of Evergreen content ring Rest Radio Style.
What's the pay review coming up this Fummer Slam? Let's
tell about it? Mikey b J. Would you like to
talk about it? Hor Come on, it's pretty good man.
We're gonna do the We're gonna, We're gonna, We've we

(01:26):
have right, We're gonna We're We've ranked our top ten
Summer Slam matches of all time. We're gonna compare our lists, chastise,
some celebrate others. Okay, I think some things are gonna
be a tea bit highle. That's become super popular with

(01:46):
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is someone saying how they use that dumbest slang ship
that we've done in their everyday life. It was like,
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Speaker 1 (02:00):
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Speaker 3 (02:03):
She's like why did you make that noise? And he
said he lied instead of telling her in the podcast
and tell him, says, say, it's a podcast. He lied.
Good fucking life lesson right there. So let's get in
this summer slant peach how to summon vote on this?
How how did two to four people get involved in?

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Speaker 3 (02:30):
Man, it's literally almost nothing for the less than a couple.
Please just a little bit more money if you can
do one penny, I'll take that's twelve of course of
the year. No fuck it. Start with a penny, baby,

(02:51):
and then want.

Speaker 1 (02:51):
You for you can't do a penny.

Speaker 3 (02:54):
I think it has to be a dollar, Well, then
you gotta do a dollar.

Speaker 1 (02:58):
If everyone that listened doing one dollar could do a lot.

Speaker 3 (03:00):
Oh, Wikipedia gets sucked my dick with that ship. But
we need it, guys.

Speaker 1 (03:05):
I have honorable mentions.

Speaker 3 (03:06):
Oh my god, dude, brother, here we go. I have
five because because he went to the Summer Slam in
two thousand and two, this is what we're gonna have
to get.

Speaker 1 (03:13):
I went SummerSlam twousands.

Speaker 2 (03:16):
Honestly, Mike, I have debated doing that. I've been to
two Summer Slams. Actually, oh wow, I.

Speaker 3 (03:22):
Didn't give a fuck it to the first.

Speaker 1 (03:24):
I've been to one.

Speaker 3 (03:26):
I refused to support WW in any form or fashion.
Oh really, so yeah, only be at the best of
my friends who couldn't bear to see me miss another time.

Speaker 1 (03:39):
That's not true.

Speaker 2 (03:40):
My honor mentions mentions in Cornlage Lawyer The Undertaker versus
Edge Helm Cel two thousand and eight, John Seen The
versus A J Styles in twenty sixteen, Roman Rains verus
Brock Listener in twenty twenty two, Bianca Belair vers Charlotte
versus Oscar in twenty twenty three, and Roman Reigns versus
Jay us So the Tribal Combat match in twenty twenty three.

Speaker 1 (04:00):
It didn't make your list. I was there, and I listen.
The problem with Summer Slam long fucking history. There's a
lot of great matches.

Speaker 3 (04:09):
Listen those matches didn't Those matches didn't make your list.
Why are you questioning me because I agree none of
them made my list. Either one of them made my list,
did not make.

Speaker 1 (04:24):
Does anyone else have I wall mentioned?

Speaker 3 (04:26):
No no, okay, I don't waste my fucking tie with
eleven through whatever, Bud, I'm top ten.

Speaker 1 (04:32):
There's just too many matches.

Speaker 3 (04:33):
I wanted to did the us D a grade shitty
beef or only the best? Because I only hear about
the best.

Speaker 1 (04:43):
They gotta get some that are shitty.

Speaker 3 (04:45):
Yeah, agreed, I guess so, I guess that's right. It
really fucked me all up. I'll go with my number
ten first, if you don't mind. Wow differently Summer Slam
nineteen ninety six to take you back to a time
where I was still cool and uh what it's still
cool in ninety six. I didn't known were No, they
didn't know anything. We were all level in that time

(05:06):
period because I was like nine. I mean, they could
tell me whether they're like a cool guys kid, that
kid's fucking fat kid over there with a fucking Goldberg shirt.
It's pretty cool.

Speaker 1 (05:16):
You didn't have a gold Vertu nineteen ninety six.

Speaker 3 (05:18):
By the way, Atlantic Atlantica Falcons Jersey dude, Come on, dude,
you don't know me. I don't that would they sold
them a fucking price right? Or where not price right?

Speaker 1 (05:29):
Uh?

Speaker 3 (05:30):
I think Value City where I got my Alabama.

Speaker 1 (05:36):
I definitely know what this is.

Speaker 3 (05:38):
Undertaker versus Mankind boiler room bro all. I adore this match,
but you're right. The history of fucking Summer Slam. That
is a good history that's been around a long time.

Speaker 1 (05:53):
Yeah, Undertaker my list, but I do have good memories
of that match. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (05:58):
Oh wow, wrong.

Speaker 4 (06:00):
It actually made me very sad when I saw this
live when Baul Bear turned on Undertaker.

Speaker 3 (06:06):
H happens, Bud, listen, happens when you're on.

Speaker 1 (06:11):
Dead like that? That all Bear? How could you go
against the other day? It is crazy?

Speaker 3 (06:16):
Okay match? Yes, you ten?

Speaker 1 (06:20):
Who are you talking to?

Speaker 3 (06:21):
Whoever wants to go now?

Speaker 1 (06:23):
That I could go next? There, I go there.

Speaker 3 (06:27):
There'd be different stand up for yourself and then nobody.

Speaker 1 (06:35):
That is such a okay, I'll go next.

Speaker 3 (06:39):
That is unbelievably fucking fresh. Okay, go ahead, I'll go next.
P J go God damn it.

Speaker 1 (06:46):
I was there, Listen. I watched a lot of matches
yesterday and today to do this list, and a lot
of things moved around and then working instead.

Speaker 3 (06:58):
Huh.

Speaker 1 (06:59):
I was off. Had to sell on this.

Speaker 2 (07:01):
Herl Angle versus Raymistereo from two thousand and two incredible
what so.

Speaker 3 (07:08):
Much, so much not make my fucking list. That's what
I said. He said the same thing and yelled.

Speaker 1 (07:16):
Him, bitch, because you had a slight on it. Mike
didn't say anything.

Speaker 3 (07:20):
That slight said the year was overrated because you had
what about the success you had emotionally bothers me. So
I don't like that.

Speaker 2 (07:29):
You know, this is an incredible, incredible year of wrestling,
and the big reason is because of Cared Angle and Raymondsterio,
two of the very best reformers in the world at
this time. This is less than a month I think
after Raymisterio debuted, and I love about this. To me,
second best opener at this point in time in w
W history. You got bretton Owen, and I think this
is right there with it. Carl Angle, Raymisterio was so

(07:51):
good about this match. First off, Angles in the ring
waiting for Ray to enter, and Ray comes in from behind.

Speaker 3 (07:57):
Jumping them awesome lean Vega style.

Speaker 1 (08:02):
What is awesome about?

Speaker 2 (08:03):
You can watch this match and you can understand exactly
what each person is about from the story they tell
him this match, and they did an excellent job.

Speaker 1 (08:11):
Less than ten minutes of this match and they crush it.

Speaker 3 (08:13):
Top ten less than ten minutes. Making your top ten.
It's a wild dude. Yeah, this is wild.

Speaker 4 (08:19):
Umm incorrect that Mike my number ten was mentioned as
an honorable mention by BG. It's from twenty sixteen John
Cena versus AJ styles.

Speaker 3 (08:31):
Oh I considered it. I watched it again, but it's
so hard to just John Cena was doing the backpack
stunner and shitte.

Speaker 1 (08:39):
I hate him.

Speaker 3 (08:40):
I hate him, I hate he was trying.

Speaker 1 (08:42):
Very hard at that point.

Speaker 3 (08:43):
Yeah, I can't.

Speaker 4 (08:44):
I give him credit for in ring performances the US
Open Challenge and then his few with AJ. He didn't
really care at all anything else he ever did, but
he cared about those for whatever reason.

Speaker 3 (08:54):
A spring stunner was a springboard sunner. I sat backpack
like he's ride back springboards ride it was. It was
so bad. I mean, the backpack center was a really
good move. I like that, but I do not like
John Cena's springboards center. I remember him doing on Owens.

Speaker 1 (09:09):
He even did it. He's like he was doing Hurricane
roundas and ship to trying to show off.

Speaker 3 (09:16):
But that was that was his motorcycle, his midlife crisis thing.
He's like allowed to get a about a Corvette. I mean,
I look good, right, Uh, but I really liked this match.

Speaker 4 (09:26):
I mean a big reason why I made my list
is that Sena actually allowed Aj Styles to win this match,
which was great.

Speaker 3 (09:32):
He's actually on a shitty I was looking at records.
He's fucking five and ten at SummerSlam.

Speaker 1 (09:37):
Mm hmm you know yeah, uh remember uh Brock Lesser
killed him at a Summer jame.

Speaker 3 (09:45):
That was one of the most shocked. It was incredible
because he came back here like Johnson.

Speaker 1 (09:50):
I thought about paring on my list because I liked
it so much.

Speaker 3 (09:54):
Didn't won the first match that extreme rules.

Speaker 1 (09:56):
Though, Yeah it was a different year that that was
the that.

Speaker 4 (10:01):
But when I first came back, seen a buried Brock
in his first fucking match back.

Speaker 1 (10:07):
That was pathetic.

Speaker 2 (10:08):
Twenty fourteen match, Brock had beaten Undertaker and end of
the streak, so they need something big to come back with,
and they decided to destroy down see at work.

Speaker 1 (10:17):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (10:18):
In terms of match quality, I think a lot of
seen his best matches against AJ and the SummerSlam matches
part of it.

Speaker 1 (10:23):
AJ winning. I have found memories of this match.

Speaker 3 (10:26):
It's a good match, great match, not top ten, though
I'll go with my number nine, Ken Shamrock, Owen Hart
lions Ny eight.

Speaker 1 (10:37):
Oh my god, so much fun from the I really
like that match.

Speaker 3 (10:42):
From the bottom of my heart. There's a lot of
matches that are technically awesome, but I remember this match
a few others. I do like MMA, and maybe it
contributes to why I have such a fond memory of this,
But it felt like a legitimate fucking brawl and it
felt like I loved I love the lions Den concept.
At the time, I like Ken Shamrock a Ton and

(11:06):
Oh Hard obviously we loved so this was. I love this,
This is a great match.

Speaker 4 (11:10):
At the time, I really didn't know much of anything
about MMA or uf SEE anything, Like literally the only
thing I really knew about is like when I would
go to a video store or something, the UFC tapes
would be near the wrestling tape.

Speaker 1 (11:25):
Interesting boxing.

Speaker 4 (11:28):
Yeah, so this was I really had never seen like
m A before. I saw like this, so that's kind
of like my introduction into like what that type of
thing was. But like I had never seen it before,
so it was like very novel and cool concept, and.

Speaker 3 (11:41):
I think it was I think there was something about
this time you had it was like Dan Severn was there.
You had like a bunch of gray shirt with water.
You had like a bunch of like real fighters who
came in to like do a stint there, and but
the Ken Shamrock was always like he looked like, you know,
whatever makes you look that way. I'm not gonna have

(12:02):
no idea, but he looked so much more like jacked
up and fucking crazy. I know Dan Severn was the
toughest motherfucker, but y didn't.

Speaker 1 (12:10):
Camrock should have been world champion if he was stayed longer. Absolutely,
yeah he was. He really was.

Speaker 3 (12:15):
And this match is great, b Jack.

Speaker 1 (12:17):
That was a great match. I really enjoyed that pay
per view in general. We'll get to that some point, maybe.

Speaker 2 (12:22):
My number nine, Donnie, you gonna be mad. I'm staying
in two thousand and two The Rockers brock Lessner.

Speaker 1 (12:28):
Okay, we were. I was there, Donnie, and we were
going giving a while. It's really not I don't think
it's a great match, but it was like, actually, cool,
is a great match you should be watching.

Speaker 3 (12:41):
Take a step.

Speaker 4 (12:42):
Sorry, he's not doing all two thousand and two list,
I'm not trust me.

Speaker 1 (12:49):
He threw it.

Speaker 3 (12:50):
He threw it at two thousand and three, just just
again a little definitely.

Speaker 1 (12:54):
Not two thousand and three. But this is how you
fucking make a star.

Speaker 2 (12:58):
Brock Les looks like a fucking beast against the Rock,
but they still the Rock hold his own.

Speaker 1 (13:03):
What I love about this, you guys know, let's be honest. No,
not the biggest fan of just Oh, let's go, we
have a blood few going on. Let's go do a
fucking lock up.

Speaker 2 (13:13):
No, the Rock comes out fucking ant as all hell,
and he lays the title on the floor and then
charges the ring and these two are just beating the
fuck out of each other. During this match, you have
some interference in Paul Hayman, which then leads to the
Rock putting him through a fucking table, which is a
great spot.

Speaker 1 (13:28):
The crowd we were going fucking off on the Rock.
Everyone wanted to Brock to win. It was so much fun.
The Rock plays up to it, and this is just
how you make a fucking star. Brock Lesnard does. He's
just incredible and this was his real man.

Speaker 3 (13:40):
Brock. Is that what you're saying, without without without the Rock,
Brock is in Brock. That's what you're saying, Rock Brock
loses this match, He's definitely not the same. This was
his first big, huge match. He wrestled RVD.

Speaker 2 (13:54):
That was a great match at the King of the
Ring to win this championship title shot, and he goes
against the Rock and beats him his first world title match.

Speaker 1 (14:02):
He only debuted in March. This is how you make
a fucking star and they called him.

Speaker 3 (14:08):
Mike give another year.

Speaker 4 (14:12):
Uh my number nine is from twenty thirteen. Daniel Brian
versus John Cena to matches, I've got it a bit.

Speaker 3 (14:28):
This match was.

Speaker 4 (14:31):
I don't think it was as good in ringwise as
Sena in styles was. But going into this, like you
had this feeling like the crowd is very behind Daniel Brian,
but like are they going to give him that win
over Sena?

Speaker 1 (14:44):
And I remember it being like, I'm sure we had
many debates on it.

Speaker 3 (14:49):
Did not believe.

Speaker 1 (14:50):
Yeah, it's like, you know it's the right thing to do,
but are they going to do it? I don't know.
So it was like I feel like the crowd atmosphere
was very fun for this match.

Speaker 4 (15:00):
John Cena showed some of like his true colors during
the bill to this, like actingly the whole day O'Brien.

Speaker 3 (15:05):
He just he was Vince McMahon.

Speaker 1 (15:08):
He just the story the match.

Speaker 4 (15:13):
It was based on reality. But the match was excellent,
and Dan Brian winning was an awesome moment.

Speaker 1 (15:19):
And I include in this absolutely the fact that you
have the cash in later.

Speaker 4 (15:24):
You know, Triple H is raising Dan Brian's hand like
so proud of him, fucking takes him out, pedigrees and
reindeer and comes down cashes in the crowd is just
fucking beside itself, so angry.

Speaker 1 (15:35):
That this has happened. Uh, that was one of the
more perfect cash ins. I feel like I.

Speaker 3 (15:40):
Would argue that. I literally said it was my favorite.

Speaker 1 (15:44):
So real quick.

Speaker 2 (15:47):
I watched it this afternoon because I originally did not
have this in my top ten.

Speaker 3 (15:51):
As I mentioned, you spent your you spent your day
watching Old for.

Speaker 1 (15:56):
A few I mean I did.

Speaker 2 (15:59):
As well, but I was you do it all the time.
So anyways, anyways, you watched this match awesome.

Speaker 1 (16:06):
I really did not have it.

Speaker 2 (16:07):
I had an honorable mentions I don't really because it
is so fucking good. Everyone plays their role to fucking perfection.
Johnson's getting kicked in the face, eyes fucking black and
blue nose looks like it's fucking broken. And then the
ending with the not just the casher though, because they
play they played us to a tee. There is like

(16:30):
three or four minutes of fucking celebration happening.

Speaker 1 (16:33):
You think this pay per view is over. There's fireworks
going on.

Speaker 3 (16:37):
The first bug this is the first bug incident.

Speaker 1 (16:41):
It was just.

Speaker 2 (16:45):
Talking about but they didn't have that come up, but
they just kept it going with the celebration, so you
didn't think it was actually gonna happen.

Speaker 1 (16:52):
And then Randy Orton comes out and just teases it.

Speaker 2 (16:55):
He goes to walk away and triple h fucking pedigrees
ganging Bryant and van Noorton comes back.

Speaker 1 (17:00):
Oh my god, they fucking got us.

Speaker 3 (17:02):
Yeah, this was really yeah again, and that has to
be included in this because it's like leaving and money
in the bank. You know that that that's why that
match is so beloved's because you have that finale. Yeah,
so where did you have it?

Speaker 1 (17:14):
You said, I have it? He has it. I have
it at eight, so you need you're eight?

Speaker 3 (17:19):
Okay, Yeah, because I can't tell you where mine is
because it's it's it's higher, it's much higher.

Speaker 1 (17:23):
Yeah, so what's your number eight?

Speaker 3 (17:24):
I now don't like doing the voice because someone liked it,
so now I don't like it. My number eight c
I'm punk vers brack lesson twenty thirteen.

Speaker 1 (17:34):
What wait, I have it quite a bit higher. No, no,
it was good.

Speaker 3 (17:41):
It was good. It was cute, A cute little thing.
There wasn't even the best thing on the show. Wasn't
even the best thing on the show.

Speaker 1 (17:47):
Uh no, actually it was the best match on the show.
Oh yeah, it was no great?

Speaker 3 (17:57):
What you were seeing it verse Brian twenty thirty on
the show is on the show? Right, I'm confused because
you just know the seniors Brian was better than Bronk
Bronk Lessner Bronk Bronk Lesner.

Speaker 1 (18:10):
Good, No, it wasn't.

Speaker 3 (18:12):
Okay, well, I just agree I got it at eight,
So fuck you. It's my fucking opinion. I got it eight, dude,
you can be wrong.

Speaker 1 (18:18):
That's Mike. What's your number eight?

Speaker 3 (18:20):
Uh?

Speaker 4 (18:20):
My number eight is from nineteen ninety eight, the icy
title ladder match between Triple H and The rock O.

Speaker 3 (18:26):
Mike, I have it interesting? Interesting did not make my
fucking list.

Speaker 4 (18:33):
Because you hate triplation, fake hate The Rock this to me,
this is one of my favorite just ladder matches in general.

Speaker 1 (18:40):
Of all time. Wow, it was still during that era
where ladder matches weren't like you gotta have like twenty
twenty ladders involved and stuff like that.

Speaker 3 (18:49):
Better in mind day he shut the fuck up.

Speaker 1 (18:51):
You know.

Speaker 4 (18:51):
It was like the Shawn and Razer type ladder match,
and I thought they did it so well. Like and
the thing that really adds to it is it's ninety eight,
you know, like looking back, you know what Triple H
in the Rock ultimately became. This I feel like was
like a huge launching pad for both of them to
get to that level. It's fun to like think back,
like these two guys going for the Icy title, you know,

(19:13):
trying to win that title and then get the push
up to the next level what the Icy title is
always was supposed to be and has been. Uh, they
kind of like personified it in this match.

Speaker 1 (19:24):
Awesome match. I love it absolutely.

Speaker 2 (19:27):
We recently watched either the full pay per view we
did a mass commentation is something, but we all watched
this and spoke about it so awesome.

Speaker 1 (19:34):
Overrated, It's not.

Speaker 4 (19:38):
It's actually underrated because people don't really talk about it
ready for my next one.

Speaker 3 (19:41):
And no, yes, I guess number seven. I'm gonna take
you all the way back. Mike's getting the time machine,
going all the way back to twenty seventeen where Brock Lesser,
Range Chow Samoa and Bron broun Stroman put on a

(20:03):
master class.

Speaker 1 (20:05):
It was a fun match. Bront carry do a good match.

Speaker 3 (20:08):
That's not true. That match was breaking. That match. He
played his role like a fucking beast. Dude, So shut up.
You only picked that because wasn't it. I picked that
match because it's legit.

Speaker 1 (20:18):
Dude, I kind of stink. That's a great It's a
very fun match. It was solid. It's not top ten,
didn't may be the top fifteen.

Speaker 3 (20:24):
It's seven. Seventh made my seventh, so.

Speaker 1 (20:27):
That honestly the top three. Yeah, maybe maybe maybe.

Speaker 3 (20:34):
Watch maybe you should watch that some of the dumb
ship you watch, like I watched it. I know we
covered this live, but I don't, idiot. Also, I can't
believe that was twenty seventeen.

Speaker 1 (20:47):
That feels like not that long ago, and it's like, yeah,
eight years crazy, it's crazy.

Speaker 3 (20:52):
We're doing great feeling. We all got scared right there, dude.

Speaker 2 (20:57):
Seventh else, minding seven is triple a first of all,
by the match.

Speaker 1 (21:03):
Great choice.

Speaker 3 (21:04):
I'll repeat this to you. Did not.

Speaker 1 (21:07):
Mike and know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (21:09):
My number seven is a different ladder match. It's from
nineteen ninety five. It's Shaw Michaels versus Rasor Ramon, the
rematch of the WrestleMania ten Ladder Match.

Speaker 1 (21:19):
I don't think it's quite at the same level as
the rust Me ten Lighter match.

Speaker 4 (21:24):
But to me, the restated ten Ladder match is the
greatest Lader match of all time and one of the
best WrestleMania matches of all time.

Speaker 1 (21:30):
Uh but this one was nearly as good. HBK got
to win this time.

Speaker 4 (21:36):
HBK had those sweet blue fight song that are iconic.

Speaker 1 (21:41):
Look for my man, Shawn Michaels. I love.

Speaker 3 (21:45):
This pick is draped. Didn't fucking bias. That's wild to
hear like that.

Speaker 4 (21:50):
It's not really biased when you just recognize the best
ever is the best ever.

Speaker 3 (21:53):
Yeah, it's cool, cool, real quick though, checking my list
did not make my fucking Michaels well. First off, First off,
cheesy knockoffs to WrestleMania matches, I don't really do it
for me.

Speaker 1 (22:04):
Pretend to like Scott Hall and then does love Scott Hall.

Speaker 3 (22:08):
Razor.

Speaker 1 (22:11):
Yeah, right, same guy.

Speaker 3 (22:14):
Something. I mean, it's on the bottom of my heart.
I still have a heart. I still throw toothpicks if
I find them, and like mostly it's a restaurants where
they have when you're leaving, right, boom, grab one. Put
it in my fucking mouth just to.

Speaker 1 (22:28):
Throw it, just so you're a piece of ship.

Speaker 3 (22:31):
Yeah, that's what I do. Man, Trees, Uh is it?

Speaker 1 (22:35):
What?

Speaker 3 (22:35):
Is it my turn? Now?

Speaker 1 (22:37):
You're number six t.

Speaker 3 (22:39):
L C one two thousand, what and it's my number
significantly overall quite a bit higher. Wow, that seems a
little bit. You know, you might be up your own
fucking ass here a little bit, guys, you need to
get up and ask. Then, ain't you fucking tell let

(23:00):
me fucking here. I'll give you a number you can
text that same information to let that bo hell. Yeah,
I do to open it up whenever I'm allowed. But yeah,
it's U. I guess I'll wait till you for you
guys to yell about it when it's much much higher.
But yeah, it was a really good It's the first
time the three teams got together, and goodness it's not.

(23:24):
I thought it was the first time try and the
first year. Okay, okay, you're fair enough.

Speaker 1 (23:34):
Together.

Speaker 3 (23:35):
Yeah, it's the first time of the TLC thing happened. Yeah,
the ladder match was actually kind of mad. Didn't love it.

Speaker 1 (23:41):
No, it's really good. Actually the best thing on that show.
It was basically.

Speaker 3 (23:47):
Yeah, yeah, TLC was better.

Speaker 1 (23:50):
When you're working tomorrow, go watch a match and let something.

Speaker 3 (23:57):
H b J.

Speaker 2 (23:59):
My number six Rhett Hart versus Mister Perfect from nineteen
ninety one.

Speaker 3 (24:05):
Have you have you ever have you tell the truth?
Have you ever seen it?

Speaker 1 (24:09):
I had watched it again yesterday.

Speaker 3 (24:11):
First time for everything. Huh time, this is firstly, first time, honestly,
probably first time you ever saw mister Perfect match, if
we're honest. So what are your thoughts of mister Perfect
now you finally seen him wrestle? It's perfect, which I'm
so skeptical.

Speaker 4 (24:25):
He's one of my top ten favorite wrestlers of all time.

Speaker 3 (24:27):
Yeah, he's not my top ten, but he is freaking awesome.

Speaker 1 (24:29):
So he might be in my top five. That's how
I do know you.

Speaker 3 (24:33):
That's the early nineties thing I can tell watching back. Okay,
here we go to me.

Speaker 2 (24:39):
I don't think this is a feather match Bell the
Bell than some previous matches that we've discussed, But I
think you have to give a ton of credit for
this being in nineteen ninety one where there's not a
lot of matches like this, and this really, to me
helps cement SummerSlam as such an important pay per view

(24:59):
where you just start having classic Bret Hart matches and
one of the best performers.

Speaker 1 (25:04):
Ever at Summer Simon. We'll discuss at some point, but
this match, it's so great.

Speaker 2 (25:09):
Actually, the commentary is fucking fantastic and really helps tell
the full story of this match and what they're doing
in the match, where you could, to me, if you
need to have someone watch a match that doesn't know
pro wrestling, you could put this match on and they
would understand it completely. Commentary, the crowd reactions, the way

(25:31):
it worksmissed it perfect.

Speaker 1 (25:32):
I think this is such a well match.

Speaker 3 (25:35):
It's true, it's perfect, it's so good.

Speaker 4 (25:38):
And about there not being a lot of matches like
this during this time or none, well, no, I think
you could argue this was like the best WWF technical
match since Savage d Right, I was.

Speaker 3 (25:53):
Gonna say, because that's not what's going on in wrestling.
You had Rick Flair and Steamboat in the late eighties.
There's a lot of things that had happened prior to
this that you could say it was it was elite,
but this in terms of in terms of w E,
I think this is their best technical match in seven.

Speaker 1 (26:09):
A lot more of that Hogan style like a match.

Speaker 2 (26:14):
There's one point where basically like leaving and Brett tries
to drag him back and like rips his single it
and it's just it just adds so much to like
the grittiness of it where they do like this technical.

Speaker 1 (26:26):
Man banger when his hair turned into like yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (26:31):
B yeah, that's a really good point too. It's a
good it's a good gauge. But like I said, the
chemistry between those two guys, you could tell they were
going out there like we are stealing the fucking show
and it was and they did, and they did. It
was so really really great, really really great. And somewhere
Dave Meltser was like, I.

Speaker 1 (26:50):
Like that, did he really like it that much? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (26:54):
Look it up, bro, because I'm gonna tell you that time.

Speaker 4 (26:57):
There's no way that that should have gotten less than
five stars for his greeting.

Speaker 3 (27:00):
But look at no are you shooting me?

Speaker 1 (27:05):
Well, he didn't give Steamboat Savage five stars either.

Speaker 3 (27:08):
Look up the look up the Rick Flair and Steamboat
Ones clash in Chicago. Shutdown whatever it is. Rumble there's
three in a row.

Speaker 4 (27:16):
But you feel like he won or two of those
five stars because he hates wwet.

Speaker 3 (27:19):
Brett Hart, mister perfect dude. That's my number five. That's
why I had. I agree with everything you said. It's
one of my all time favorite matches ever, regardless of
pay per view and early nineties wrestling is the most
underrated time in all of wrestling. Everybody use it as
a down time, but I would argue nine ninety one,
ninety two, nine ninety three are three of my favorite

(27:41):
years ever. And across wrestling too. You had Ron Simmons
in nineteen eighty two, you had Rick Flair jumping to WWE.
There is some really great stuff that happened and no
one talks about as much as they should, and this
match is one hundred percent one of the things people
should talk about more.

Speaker 1 (27:57):
So, Yes a Heads Davy gave.

Speaker 2 (28:01):
Three of the Steamboat Flare matches five stars and one
an NWA House show in nineteen eighty nine, six Stars.

Speaker 3 (28:08):
No ship, are you kidding me?

Speaker 1 (28:10):
He wasn't doing six stars, so he amended that. I
don't know, but I thought he didn't do amending. The
sports Star dot Com has a whole I.

Speaker 3 (28:17):
Will say this, I will say this. What if that?
What if that house show is footage she found later me,
I guess you know what I mean, like they dug
it up in an archive and now he's like, Wow,
my god, it's even better. I didn't even realize, right,
Tell me that's not close to accurate. No, that's one
hundred percent speculation. But if it comes out to be true, you.

Speaker 1 (28:38):
Know, your boy what a loser.

Speaker 3 (28:40):
No, that's not true. I think it's great. I think
it's cool that he has under this time.

Speaker 1 (28:46):
Yeah. So Donnie, you mentioned you're number five. Oh wait, Mike,
my number, my number six were on My number six
was previously mentioned by Donnie. See I'm Punker's brock Lesner
twenty thirteen.

Speaker 3 (28:59):
You said I would stripping for having there, and you
put it in six.

Speaker 4 (29:02):
No, he's the one that said that, or BG's the
one said that.

Speaker 1 (29:05):
Yeah, I said I had it higher. So that's my
number five? Ye uh so there we go. We get
me and VGA basically the same spot. But uh, this
was I feel like.

Speaker 4 (29:20):
During this time, like when we first started the show
to like maybe when the shield showed up, there's a
lot of ship we had to go through to sift
through to get to the good stuff.

Speaker 1 (29:31):
This was some of the good stuff.

Speaker 3 (29:32):
There were some there, there were some morsels of good.

Speaker 1 (29:35):
Yeah, that's what I was a morsel.

Speaker 4 (29:37):
Uh, this match was awesome, Like, this is probably like
one of the most physical matches of Punk's career to
this point. It definitely was like the size difference between
him and Brock, like Rock can fucking tear him limb
from limb, but they made it believable where Punk can
hang because because of the hardcore stipulation. I believe it
was no dq that Punk was able to hang in

(29:59):
there and like use weapons and ship and kind of
neutralized Rock. Then you had like the Hayman factor involved
in it also, which was great.

Speaker 1 (30:09):
This This match.

Speaker 4 (30:11):
Can make an argument this is Punk's best match ever
I think, and Brock too for that matter.

Speaker 1 (30:17):
I agree.

Speaker 3 (30:18):
I wouldn't go that far.

Speaker 1 (30:19):
I think it was.

Speaker 3 (30:20):
I think it was a really good match, But yeah,
I've seen better from both, to be honest with you
and honestly, like I said, that's why it's great. I
had at eight, so I really think highly of it.
So it's just a matter of what placement here, but
you know, it is what it is. I just think
both have better matches in my opinion. All right, So

(30:41):
your five was what.

Speaker 1 (30:43):
My five was that match?

Speaker 2 (30:45):
Your five was bretton mister perfect. So we need Mike's
number five.

Speaker 4 (30:49):
My five, Donny's about to fucking go postal nineteen ninety two.

Speaker 1 (30:55):
Brett Hart's British Bulldog is my number five.

Speaker 4 (30:58):
Oh okay, And I think we've had this talk before
we had We've had this debate.

Speaker 1 (31:03):
I'm not at all Brett Bulldog. I rank.

Speaker 4 (31:08):
I'll just do two in a row here. I rank
Brett Perfect ahead of Brett Bulldog. Brett Perfect is my
four and my five is Brett Bulldog.

Speaker 1 (31:17):
I think both are absolutely spectacular. It's kind of like
splitting hairs between them. I feel like I think the.

Speaker 4 (31:25):
The reputation that SummerSlam nineteen ninety two has because it
was Wembley Stadium, the first ever foreign pay per view,
WW did the ninety thousand or whatever it was there.

Speaker 3 (31:34):
Not giving him credit for that, but you're giving Daniel
Bright credit for the cash.

Speaker 1 (31:37):
In answer, what is that supposed to mean? You're I'm
talking about the match itself.

Speaker 4 (31:45):
I feel like because of all those factors SummerSlam nineteen
ninety two and that match, people put it on a
pedestal where they kind of forget about that Brett Perfect
even happened.

Speaker 1 (31:57):
But I think if you watch those the other as
I can do those two matches back to back, you
saved yourself. Man.

Speaker 4 (32:06):
There's like hardly any difference in match quality between these
two matches.

Speaker 3 (32:09):
Yeah, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. In the atmosphere, then
you give that head hand over fist with the fucking
Bulldog in England.

Speaker 1 (32:18):
But I'm more of a perfect guy than I am.

Speaker 3 (32:20):
All right, well, I mean then you just don't get it, don't. No,
I'm not doing this. I told you. My therapist told
me that I got to talk down here.

Speaker 1 (32:28):
I got one.

Speaker 4 (32:28):
I love Perfect, and I put him above Bulldog, and
I enjoyed his matches more than so.

Speaker 1 (32:34):
I put Brett Perfect just slightly above Brett Bulldog.

Speaker 3 (32:37):
While I agree with all the words you just uttered
off your fucking mouth, can't help, but disagree with the
fact that this is one of the greatest moments in
wrestling fucking history, and it is considerably higher on my
fucking list, and we're all ready to five.

Speaker 1 (32:53):
Can't be that much high.

Speaker 3 (32:55):
No, it's case. It's almost as high as you can get.
Pick man.

Speaker 1 (32:58):
So number two, got it? I wonder what number one? Oh,
I know, I know. Actually I think him and I
have the same number one. Wow, yeah, you definitely do.
Wait a second, we might all have the same number one. No,
we don't, Okay, I thought you would have a different
number one. That's my number two?

Speaker 3 (33:20):
Cool, okay, okay, what can we just go Jesus Christ, dude.
People were like, what the fuck are we talking about?
So who's who's it? Somebody's number four for somebody?

Speaker 1 (33:33):
Because I number four for for Donnie.

Speaker 3 (33:37):
Okay, So you guys probably don't have this one, but
it is Miller Braun. It's one of my favorite matches
of all time. Andy, No, you got to go back
to two thousand simmer Slam two thousand? Do you think
you know in the matter of time? Don't look, just
tell me off top of head, what do you think
it is?

Speaker 1 (33:55):
No? Here, he did it? You put it on toys?

Speaker 3 (33:57):
Is it Chris Jerk? Chris Jericho? I guess Chris Ben
two out of three falls do that match? That match
is perfectly executed. That match is two of my favorites,
and that match I'm sorry that he's still one of
my favorites in wrestling. I'm sorry. Like they used the

(34:21):
boat flex wrong, I definitely know that. But the truth
is the Yeah, We'll actually he used it correctly.

Speaker 1 (34:30):
It worked, didn't he did.

Speaker 4 (34:33):
That?

Speaker 3 (34:35):
Chris Jericho, Chris ben Will? Honestly, you guys the match
use it wrong? No, well he should. He deserved it,
That's what I was kind of saying. But any who,
technically in the ring master class, it is. To me,
it's one of one of Jarco's best and also one
of Ben Will's best, and honestly a match, especially with

(34:56):
Ben Like we look back on history and it's we
can't look at matches anymore in public because we get
yelled at. But this is truly one of the best
matches in Summer Slam history and in my opinion, one
of the best matches ever. Just perfect for this generation.

Speaker 1 (35:12):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (35:13):
The thing with this match at this time period of WWE,
you really weren't finding these type of matches. You're still
in the Attitude era, which is a lot of hardcore elements,
a lot of brawling interference.

Speaker 1 (35:27):
Yes, and so this was just you weren't getting this.

Speaker 2 (35:31):
You started getting it now because Kernan Angle is there
de Malinko, they were started using him. But Jericho, Ben Wahkernangle,
those are.

Speaker 1 (35:38):
The guys they were pushing. Is this is the type
of style. Okay, we got Eddie.

Speaker 2 (35:41):
Oh, Eddie was injured for a long time. So like
it was really like on those three guys. And so
SummerSlam was a great moment. I mean the paper view
before fully Loaded. They're in three of the biggest matches
of the pay per view, Christo and Chris Manwan.

Speaker 1 (35:57):
So then you had this match. It was fucking awesome.

Speaker 3 (35:59):
Yeah, I love it.

Speaker 1 (36:01):
I love my number four is Breadfa's Bulldog nineteen ninety two.
Obviously I haven't.

Speaker 3 (36:11):
Yes, seriously, how are you going to make one higher?

Speaker 1 (36:14):
I got it higher?

Speaker 3 (36:16):
Was getting chasm over here.

Speaker 1 (36:18):
You were saying it's better than the perfect match. That's well,
you had it like one apart, didn't you know?

Speaker 3 (36:24):
I have perfect at six and brocks punk a five memory.
Remember he just saw that for the first time anyway, Bud.

Speaker 1 (36:30):
He just learn No, I didn't see if that's a
long long time hold on was fucking more impressive of
what they were to accomplish.

Speaker 3 (36:43):
It's like, I don't fucking know. At the one point,
the guy just stopped moving and I had like we
put the move on, Holy ship.

Speaker 1 (36:51):
Dude, and you wouldn't even know that he was sucking
out of his mind during this.

Speaker 2 (36:54):
If you watch, because we we watched it back like
two years ago. We had this as a retro and
it just holds up in everyone, like the UK to me,
like we talk about like the Dane Bryant. To me,
we talk about the Daniel Bryant moment, that it could
be WrestleMania, could be Summer saying these huge monumental moments
and finally win a championship. That's what this felt like

(37:16):
during the time in nineteen eighty two, Like you didn't
have that type of moments, what it felt like in
the UK, and I think that that moment, that atmosphere
does put it over the top on the mister perfect match.

Speaker 3 (37:27):
Uh no, I'll just say it right now. I mean no,
I'm not gonna say no. Ignorant number THREEJ PJ number four.

Speaker 1 (37:37):
That was my number four.

Speaker 3 (37:39):
Oh okay, Mike.

Speaker 4 (37:42):
Mike, he said his number four, your number three, buddy.

Speaker 3 (37:44):
Uh John Cena Daniel Bryant twenty thirteen. And I fully
include the whole ending because it it you. It look
at me. That storyline divided this show. I believed in
my heart and still will always believe that WW had
no intention of doing this storyline. They completely buried Daniel

(38:09):
Bryant in his organic push, but the fucking people had
to make their voices heard. He had to storm a
thousand people into the ring. Remember that that was a
different time, but it was dick. That was a different time.
But remember he did that shit, dude. But in that
one night, Daniel Brian beat John Cena in one and

(38:30):
Triple H is right there to have to watch it, right.
It was like for me, I remember being like, good,
fuck him and fuck him, and then they trick me
and they make Randy Whorton, Triple H buries Daniel Brian
and fucking makes Randy Whorton the champion. We had so
much fuel for the next year plus of that fucking show.

(38:55):
That is my favorite That's probably my favorite time in
this show's history is that match and then what came
of that? So from the bottom of my heart, I
adore that match and where it took us. So I'm
going with number three for seeing Brian too. Thirteen. You
just love Johnson, No, I love that John Cena represented. Yeah, well,
guess what Dan Bryan. Daniel Bryan took that down and

(39:18):
then turned his sights on Triple H. I guess what
he did to him. He took him down to and
Batista and Randy Worton representatives took them down as well.

Speaker 1 (39:26):
Took him all down, almost like it was a great
fucking storyline.

Speaker 3 (39:29):
They did, but they didn't mean to do it. And
the story they fucking they pivoted a long history of pivot.
All right, your number three.

Speaker 1 (39:38):
Please mine three. You guys are gonna be mad. It's
breakfast owen mm hmmm significantly. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (39:48):
I mean, we're just giving away my list now, aren't we. Yeah, Donnie,
just gonna give away my whole fucking list now.

Speaker 1 (39:53):
Aren't we, Donnie. As you know, seven year old Big
sitting there in my parents room ignoring the first first match.

Speaker 3 (40:00):
I have no idea it's on TV. Your older brother,
much poor brother, watching it on television.

Speaker 2 (40:05):
Hmm, this is the first match I ever saw hold
special place in my heart.

Speaker 1 (40:09):
I love the.

Speaker 2 (40:12):
Look a mini documentary that w W did on Peacock
when fucking network came out that.

Speaker 1 (40:18):
No, it's not the first time I saw it was live.

Speaker 4 (40:20):
You're like, my, where's the baconm did you skip the undercurtain?

Speaker 3 (40:24):
Like, shut up, dude, Yeah, I.

Speaker 1 (40:26):
Wasn't what I came into the room for this.

Speaker 3 (40:28):
That's wild. That's wild timing.

Speaker 1 (40:30):
It's amazing, and.

Speaker 3 (40:35):
No wonder you have it so low. We've discredited you
so much. Wild dude.

Speaker 4 (40:44):
I wish you would have walked in for the match
before it. Jeff Jarrett defeated Mabel in five minutes.

Speaker 3 (40:50):
Let's be honest. That's the you know, if we're honest,
little beg at ninety four, you're what you're seven seven, right?

Speaker 1 (40:57):
He walked in for Jared Mabel.

Speaker 3 (40:59):
But yeah, yeah, yeah, you definitely watched Jared Mabel.

Speaker 1 (41:03):
That's why you're such a Jeff jarreted guy. And I
do like Jeff Jarrett.

Speaker 2 (41:08):
I always have, like Tart bred Owen. I'll let you
guys wax poetic if you want.

Speaker 3 (41:14):
Yeah, because you probably still didn't see it. I mean,
I've seen how about that they kicked the lego out
of your fucking leg Dude.

Speaker 2 (41:22):
I'm still cage matches of all time. I love the
whole storyline of this. In the match of and Jesse
Ventorro would be fucking pissed. They're trying to escape the cage.

Speaker 1 (41:32):
What the fuck is that? But they do it.

Speaker 2 (41:34):
Yeah, of everything is a little different than the last
time trying to do Man, what a story.

Speaker 3 (41:43):
Yeah, my number three tell me about that match, but
we'll talk about it later.

Speaker 1 (41:47):
My number three is TLC one.

Speaker 4 (41:50):
Edgend Christian had the least two thousand, not to me,
not quite as good as TLC two at Russemania seventeen.
But this was the one that really started all Like, Yes,
the triangle ladder match I think was the precursor that
ushered it in and then we get this match which
takes it to the next level. It was just really

(42:10):
a progression from these teams. You know, I think that
we're probably never gonna see it again where you have
like three teams like this that are all going at
at the same time. They turn out to be three
the best ever and they have the type of chemistry
that they do, and you know, they just killed it
like they basically they ushered in an era of you know,

(42:33):
hardcore type wrestling and WW.

Speaker 1 (42:35):
Like, yeah, we had had it for this, but this,
I think up the ante.

Speaker 3 (42:40):
For what people not say. Yeah, I wanted to say
one quick thing about this. This was two thousand, okay,
Jackass was this time nothing made us want to jump
off shit more than like nineteen ninety eight, ninety nine, nine,
two thousand times times. Right, Like we all had backyard federations.

(43:02):
I wasn't the only one. I know it like we did,
and this was this like more of that. Well no,
I did we to do shopping carts down the hills
and ship like that.

Speaker 1 (43:13):
October two thousand.

Speaker 3 (43:16):
Yeah, it's around the same time we got this and
then we get Jackets. Yeah, okay, so it's this I'm
watching wrestling jack.

Speaker 1 (43:24):
No, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 3 (43:25):
I'm saying everybody in our generation is influence saying it
was this generations influenced by jack Ass and these hardcore matches.
And now that's why Joey you know, and does weird flips.
That's what I'm saying. Yeah, Yeah, that was pivot, all right,
a pivot.

Speaker 1 (43:46):
That was a pivot.

Speaker 3 (43:49):
You're number three, my number three. I already did see
the price number. Then you're number two Brett versus Bulldog.
Oh you thought it'd be number one because I waxed.

Speaker 1 (43:58):
So you said it was. You said it's as close
to number one as you I did.

Speaker 3 (44:04):
I did kind of like, okay, so I did like
the cat out of the bag you But yes, again,
it's when you think of creating moments in history of wrestling,
that match, well, yeah, you're right. Not technically the greatest
to Brett Hart match, right, still pretty fucking great, you know,

(44:24):
all things considered. I think the stories helped me love
it more too, of him being fucked up and fucking
Brett being like, oh no, not today, motherfucker. Oh no,
not today, you know what I mean? And literally I
think this is this might be Brett Hart's like biggest
crowning moment of who he was as a wrestler to
because he put him over, He gave him this moment.
He did everything to help him have that sunshine. And

(44:48):
I think that's fucking awesome. I love that. I think
that's a great part of this too. And like I said,
looking back, Brett Brett is one of my favorites and
this he's just the older I get, the more I
appreciate what Brett is and was to wrestling, because most
guys on top or top ish aren't like him. He
was one of the boys and he was he was.

(45:10):
He wasn't Hale Cooke and he wasn't Sewn Michaels. Treating
people fair with respect didn't make anybody kill themselves. Great ship, dude.

Speaker 1 (45:17):
I love Brett. He is a Shawn Michaels guy. I
always liked Brett.

Speaker 3 (45:22):
Yeah, and he's like he's not like Cody Rhoades. He
dresses with the boys, you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (45:27):
So, I mean if he could have gotten a bust,
he probably would have got. No.

Speaker 3 (45:32):
He said, no I remember anything. No, no, no, no,
I swear to God, I'll find the clip. I remember
someone talking about Brett Hart and they said why they
love Brett Hart so much? It always stuck with me.
He said, Brett Hart came in. He said, Brett Hart,
this is your locker room. Had Brett Hart on the
fucking door. He said, where are the boys dress? He said,
down there on the left. He said, don't ever put
my fucking name on the door again. I'm dressing with

(45:53):
the boys, and he always dressed with the boys. Dude. Yeah,
well Cody's out there different with his family.

Speaker 1 (45:59):
And he's going to dress with boys.

Speaker 3 (46:05):
Shit.

Speaker 2 (46:07):
Uh, your number two, My number two is TLC one
in two thousand. These the three of my favorite tag
sings of all time. I adore this views my favorite
feuds of all time. The progression from the tag Ting
Ladder match, the tag Ting Tables match, the Triangle Ladder match,
and then this. I mean, yes, it's not as good
as TLC too, because that is a culmination of everything

(46:28):
that they learned. But this, at this point in time,
was the culmination of those three previous matches, the chemistry
that they had to me, the risk factor insane. They're
a spot where Matt Hardy is just fucking dropping the
top of the ladder to the outside through a table,
almost fucking hits his head on the backet.

Speaker 1 (46:42):
It's fucking crazy. This match is insane. I love it
so much.

Speaker 2 (46:45):
I was so much growing up, so my favorite paper
views of all time just absolutely incredible. So no, not
the Techlo masterpiece of the steel Cage match in that
ninety four, but it just holds such a special place
I don't do that.

Speaker 3 (46:56):
Don't fucking do that. They'll get to do that.

Speaker 1 (46:59):
Don't do it, Mike. Okay, my number two is beg
from two thousand and two ye un sanctioned matching Sean
on Triple H. I was there was that was?

Speaker 3 (47:11):
Is that your number one? BJ? Of course that's so
guess what did not.

Speaker 1 (47:17):
Make my list? That's fucking stupid. That's very fucking stupid.
Shawn Michaels, he.

Speaker 4 (47:25):
Had to retire due to injury, put his body on
the line for all of us for many years. Pack
was all fucked up. He had to retire, came back
for us. Uh, a new man, a better man, a
changed man. Hello, Bible Verse on his shirt.

Speaker 1 (47:40):
You know he found God. We have to always that hair.
Appreciate that hair. To appreciate that, Donnie. You're very religious
these days, so you have to appreciate that he went
through all that. Uh.

Speaker 3 (47:51):
I consider him like Ted Bundy.

Speaker 1 (47:53):
You're allowed to do whatever you want in life as long.

Speaker 3 (47:55):
As that's literally what Ted Bunny did.

Speaker 1 (48:01):
And Sean Michaels didn't do anything that.

Speaker 3 (48:04):
I mean, he's still listening, he's still sinning. I know
what's going on in n next You can't fucking lie
to me.

Speaker 4 (48:11):
But anyways, Uh, his first match in whatever it was
four years at this point, five years and he comes
out of retirement and he's instantly putting on a fucking
all time classic against Triple h Uh.

Speaker 1 (48:24):
These dudes went the fucking war. It's always you know,
when you're you're wrestling your your buddy's what they always say, Like,
you're gonna hit a little bit more snugly and you're
not gonna be worried about it, and it usually makes
for better matches. Guys getting fucking color telling, incredible.

Speaker 3 (48:40):
Sn You imagine how snug one of the greatest. Imagine
how snug you and I would work. Oh brother, it'd
be potatoes. It would be fucking Stan Hanson Invader. Dude,
I'd be hanging.

Speaker 4 (48:52):
It'd be years out of the fucking frustration getting taken
out what I mentioned san Ansen and fucking Vader.

Speaker 3 (48:59):
Just see bj Space, dude, he was like, what huh?

Speaker 1 (49:03):
I did not see bed Space because it was the
audio podcast.

Speaker 3 (49:05):
I got him, I got I got a camera in
his room. It's in the crack. That's why I never
Thank god he never.

Speaker 1 (49:12):
Fixed it would be a great place to hide it.

Speaker 3 (49:17):
Yeah, I will fix that one of these days. Oh
is it?

Speaker 1 (49:21):
Ye?

Speaker 3 (49:21):
Would you put a towel on it?

Speaker 1 (49:22):
It?

Speaker 3 (49:23):
Son is crazy? Okay, So nothing structural to fix it,
just wet.

Speaker 1 (49:34):
But if you have a canda, I see cinnamon.

Speaker 3 (49:37):
That's all I needed. All right, go ahead, you're number one.
Brother Brett Versus, Oh and baby uh. I take you
back to nineteen ninety four. I remember walking into out
of my plate pen. I remember staying in myself. I'll
be like, well, I don't know how I was.

Speaker 1 (49:57):
I definitely believe that. Yeah, I was more like speaking.

Speaker 3 (50:02):
Yeah, I was more and we call it like I
mean nowadays you call it like a cage. And in
the attic where it was nice and hot, they said
they like where it's hot. I was like, I was like, yeah,
I was called sloth in high school.

Speaker 1 (50:19):
That's true. I believe it.

Speaker 3 (50:22):
That's true. I really was called in high school.

Speaker 1 (50:24):
I definitely believe that.

Speaker 3 (50:25):
No one doubt. This is why therapy works so well. Listen, guys,
Brett Versus. When we talked about brother versus, brother battles,
their battle and ten is my favorite.

Speaker 1 (50:37):
But this this is.

Speaker 3 (50:44):
Like be honest, to be honest, is ten better? Watch
we watched them both a lot.

Speaker 1 (50:50):
Lately I put ten slightly above it.

Speaker 3 (50:54):
I'm starting to feel like I might be switching them around,
I know, but no, no, I wasn't young about this.
I was young because you fake watch it, and I'm
still standing on that hill.

Speaker 1 (51:05):
You watch everything.

Speaker 3 (51:06):
I hate watch things I don't want to fake watch
to me.

Speaker 1 (51:11):
Don't watch to me. That's to can I tell you
part of why I go ten because of.

Speaker 4 (51:18):
No, not even because of the finish, Because I think
everybody in their fucking mother thought Brett was gonna win
that match, and Owen makes him slip on a banana peel,
reverses the momentum rolls him up and beats him. And
I mean, Brett beat everybody a million times, so if
he wins another one against Owen like he does in
this cage match, you know whatever. But Owen with beating

(51:41):
Brett was fucking massive.

Speaker 3 (51:42):
Okay, I'm back on the side again.

Speaker 1 (51:44):
I always thought it would have been cool if Owen
won the steel cage match.

Speaker 4 (51:47):
I mean, Owen, even if you did a transitional ring,
he should have been the one to beat Brett.

Speaker 1 (51:51):
For the title, not Bob Backland win it so they
could have him drop it the diesel right away. You
could have done that with Owen.

Speaker 3 (52:01):
Honestly, it would have meant more happening with And you
could honestly turned Owen face right back again if you
really wanted to.

Speaker 1 (52:09):
But yeah, fucking bullshit.

Speaker 3 (52:11):
But but listen, I'm not gonna sit here wax poetic
about it. If you've listened to this show long enough,
you know how we feel about certain matches. Brett Hart
Owen Hart from Summer Slam. Yeah, awesome, my favorite ever.

Speaker 1 (52:26):
Mike U's G my number one.

Speaker 2 (52:31):
If you guys know, I was there. You're played for
Sean Michaels the Street five in two thousand and two.

Speaker 3 (52:35):
I just wanted you to go first so I could
just zone out because I gotta come back for yours.

Speaker 1 (52:39):
If you pause that just the right time, you could
see THEMBG there.

Speaker 3 (52:43):
Oh my god, how many have you watched for yourself?
I can't even imagine your vanity search.

Speaker 1 (52:51):
Mhm, Mike rightwind, Sean is on the top turn Buffle members.

Speaker 2 (52:56):
He remembers, of course, I remember this fucking match, my
favorite one, like my second favorite match of all time.

Speaker 3 (53:01):
Wow, And you were there and I was there.

Speaker 1 (53:05):
We started first off, we started the Holy.

Speaker 3 (53:07):
Ship, Holy Holy Ship to that a. In fact, I
have one hundred said no, that's not true.

Speaker 1 (53:14):
Definitely true.

Speaker 3 (53:15):
You section, you may started in your little section, but
you just started.

Speaker 2 (53:18):
Right when shown was on that top turn buckle and
he does, I'm fucking crazy and just jump off right there.

Speaker 3 (53:24):
Funny said that when he said that, he was a
fucking loser for saying that. That's why Michaels.

Speaker 2 (53:30):
Michaels came back for Donnie Sins. I wanted this match
so badly, Mike. I remember when Triple was revealed as
the person that attacked Shawn. Michael's like, yes, we gotta
go to Summers and then we gotta see this fucking
match Triples and show Michael's going to be incredible.

Speaker 1 (53:43):
Show Michael's first match. This is fucking first match back
in four years. This is what the matches. This is.

Speaker 3 (53:52):
It believable.

Speaker 1 (53:54):
Match did not make my list come back from injuries
months prior to the.

Speaker 3 (53:58):
Average way down, and that is incredible. Remember the time
of one one list, Yeah, thats is I didn't have
a list. It brings it way down on average. Remember
that one time they were but the one time they
organized the list and I understood the grading system too
well and totally flipped everything around.

Speaker 1 (54:16):
I have no idea. Oh you sure do? You sure do?

Speaker 3 (54:20):
I found out the scoring system and I ruined the
ruined it with my fucking skewed picks. Baby, was this
for you?

Speaker 1 (54:26):
Like picking like eight w should over?

Speaker 3 (54:29):
This was me getting Brett Hart like number one? Dude? Yeah,
oh yeah. I got in and was like, I didn't
put show Michaels on the list, and I put, well, no,
I did. I put it like real far down and
put Brett number one. I helped listen. I took one
for the team. I'm not allowing those lists anymore. Uh, Mike,

(54:49):
all right?

Speaker 4 (54:49):
My number one steal cage match nak and any four
brettvers Owen Uh. One of the greatest storylines in wrestling history,
brettfast Owen. Like I think people people really need to
go back and watch like everything that led up to this,
because like for a long time it was like Owen
kind of like being jealous of Brett and saying, like
everybody loves Brett, but I'm actually better and I don't

(55:12):
get the opportunity, and you know, him trying to go
to Brett into fighting him and Brett always saying like no,
he's not gonna do it, and then you get the
Royal Rumble thing where they face the Gobecker's and Brett
loses it for him, and then Owen kicks his leg
out of his leg and we get the classic WrestleMania
match with Owen pulling off the upset, but Brett still
stands tall at the end because he beats Yoko Zuna

(55:33):
and the last match, and Owen's glaring at him from
from the top of the stage and he's all.

Speaker 1 (55:38):
Pissed off yep.

Speaker 4 (55:40):
And then we lead it all up to this match.
The steel cage match for the title. To me, is
just like a regular pure steel cage match.

Speaker 1 (55:49):
This is the best one ever.

Speaker 3 (55:51):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (55:51):
I'm not counting Helen and Cell matches in this just
steel cage matches.

Speaker 1 (55:54):
I think this is the greatest of all time, without question.
Like I said, I put it just below their WrestleMania
ten match in terms of Brett Owen matches. But this
match was so well done.

Speaker 4 (56:04):
The finish was great, very creative, like Owen getting his
They're both like climbing and Owen kind of gets his
leg caught in the cage and then Brett climbs out
and over uh, and then they had like a cool
thing afterwards with like night Jim Knightheart was like sided
with Owen and Bulldog sided with Brett, and Nightheart beat
the fuck out of Bulldog and then like Owen and

(56:26):
Knightheart both beat the shit out of Brett afterwards, which
like at that time, it was a huge deal because
Nightheart and Brett were always boys. They were a tag team,
like there was never any issues between them on screen.

Speaker 1 (56:35):
Or anything like that.

Speaker 4 (56:36):
So just everything that went in this match was so
fucking awesome. Be g, it's amazing. This is the first
match that you ever saw, and it definitely was not Jeff.

Speaker 3 (56:43):
Jared's almost like it's it's unrealistic. But that's cool, dude.

Speaker 1 (56:48):
Why didn't be unrealistic? What was your first match?

Speaker 3 (56:51):
Nineteen eighty seven? November was always about a month old?
Month old in November? It was yep, for sure. It
was definitely holiday season, No take it back. Royal rumbled
nineteen eighty eight.

Speaker 1 (57:07):
In November, that's crazy, ten eighty eight.

Speaker 3 (57:09):
Yep, I know, I was misremember and I don't remember
that month three.

Speaker 4 (57:12):
My first match was probably like an episode of Superstars
in nineteen ninety five, like fucking Sade beating.

Speaker 1 (57:18):
Some job or with a in five seconds or something
like that.

Speaker 3 (57:21):
If you're probably the first matches that I remember that
like struck me. That's something different. I mean the first
match I saw was one hundred percent just a raw match.
While I was walking through the room like I do
now with my wife, like what's this uncle bone? And
he's like, yeah, it's a fucking bullshit, you know what
I mean?

Speaker 1 (57:38):
That was probably the worst.

Speaker 3 (57:39):
Yeah, well you did it? Did I live them out?

Speaker 1 (57:43):
You're just the whitest fucking trash I've ever met. That
is true.

Speaker 3 (57:47):
I'm okay with it, dude. I embrace it. It's okay
now I'm allowed to embrace it. My culture, dude, I
got a lot of culture.

Speaker 1 (57:54):
Culture.

Speaker 3 (57:56):
It's not a culture, dude, I got tons of culture.

Speaker 1 (57:58):
Dude.

Speaker 3 (57:59):
Take it. Have the fucking iye.

Speaker 1 (58:00):
Hop be done with This list was delicious.

Speaker 3 (58:04):
Sponsors sponsors, please beja. How does someone how the three
people go in there and vote for who obviously dominated this?

Speaker 1 (58:10):
Actually we did.

Speaker 3 (58:11):
We weren't very in too much on our list. I
think we were respectable.

Speaker 1 (58:14):
Your yours is very Mike and I have very some
of us.

Speaker 3 (58:18):
We listen you guys, miss Benoir and Broun.

Speaker 1 (58:26):
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It's incredible. Thank you so much. Just move on. Guys,
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(58:54):
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Speaker 1 (59:04):
Not really? Oh not really think you would be nice
to people.

Speaker 3 (59:07):
Hey, guys, we we really love you and we're really
happy to have you listen to us. So could you
give us some money? Is that better?

Speaker 1 (59:21):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (59:22):
Less condescending here, son. Okay, Well, let's say we're doing
Summer Slam. What did she call it? What did even
recall it?

Speaker 1 (59:31):
Signed for Super Super.

Speaker 3 (59:33):
Slam, fucking legend top ten right there? So I had
just top ten on you. But we're doing Summer Slim
Super Slam performers uh and I'm gonna we're gonna rank
the top ten. We're gonna give our ten rankings, are
gonna compare them, and then you vote for who wins.
So why don't we get right into it?

Speaker 1 (59:52):
Why don't we go.

Speaker 3 (59:53):
Ahead and somebody else go first? I was when I
went first last time. Y'all bitched, and I'm not doing.

Speaker 1 (59:58):
It to our normal order. PJ first, No honorable mentions,
we don't need them. Lazy on this one.

Speaker 3 (01:00:06):
You're lazy. You were plenty of other ones, but.

Speaker 1 (01:00:10):
Number ten. Acknowledge him.

Speaker 2 (01:00:13):
Donniees Oh top summer slam performers ever, you have Romanrines
on your listen, good bad?

Speaker 3 (01:00:21):
Make my list?

Speaker 2 (01:00:23):
You're a fucking idiot, all right, No offense unless Mike
doesn't have anything. But Roman Renes has travel combat, he
has multiple maschigainst Black Lazer, one of which is the
greatest catch of a microphone of all time, and a
wink to go and a wink understand.

Speaker 3 (01:00:44):
In that moment, Right in that moment though, he reminded
me and me in that moment, I was a one
time I ever saw me and him. I was like, dance,
He's a little bit like me. That's cool.

Speaker 1 (01:00:54):
Honestly one of the coolest things ever wrestling.

Speaker 3 (01:00:59):
They or him, not you?

Speaker 1 (01:01:01):
Not you?

Speaker 2 (01:01:02):
Okay, just to make that are you in wrestling because
we have a technically if Davis, we are.

Speaker 1 (01:01:12):
They. I don't think that's true.

Speaker 3 (01:01:15):
I'm benefiting from these marks. Give us some money, please, yeah,
rum sometimes they picked starting.

Speaker 1 (01:01:23):
Off, you were on a show. You were on SummerSlam
two thousand and two.

Speaker 3 (01:01:27):
I was on a few surprisings. If you look real close,
I should have to look close all I was one
of like fourteen. See my pizza half eaten by Raven. Okay, Mike,
you got number two. I want to go three.

Speaker 1 (01:01:41):
My number ten is Charlotte Flair.

Speaker 3 (01:01:44):
Oh I have for I have a little bit.

Speaker 1 (01:01:48):
Yeah. If you look at the.

Speaker 4 (01:01:52):
Magic she's had at SummerSlam, it's very impressive list.

Speaker 1 (01:01:55):
You got Sasha Banks in twenty.

Speaker 3 (01:01:58):
Sixteen, carried cock up a good match.

Speaker 4 (01:02:00):
You got Trish Stratus in twenty nineteen. I was there
and that was an awesome that and maybe the best,
maybe the best of all. You got triple threat against
Bianca and Oscar.

Speaker 1 (01:02:10):
Twenty twenty three. I was there, Donnie, and that's not
even mentioned.

Speaker 4 (01:02:14):
She had a triple threat against Rhea and Nikki Cross,
and she had a triple threat against Becky and.

Speaker 1 (01:02:19):
She won championships A s h.

Speaker 3 (01:02:23):
Yeah, you were definitely changing it like I did.

Speaker 1 (01:02:25):
That also won the debut when she was part of
PCD YEP.

Speaker 4 (01:02:30):
I think Bianca is going to maybe supplant her as
like the best women's performer ever in Summer Slime history
at some point.

Speaker 1 (01:02:37):
She just doesn't have enough yet.

Speaker 4 (01:02:38):
But Bianca had uh match against Becky that was awesome
at SummerSlam, and she had a triple threat also that
was awesome, So I think she'll eventually get there.

Speaker 1 (01:02:49):
But for now, I think.

Speaker 4 (01:02:50):
Charlotte is the best in my estimation, women's perform ever
in SummerSlam.

Speaker 1 (01:02:53):
In my number ten overall.

Speaker 3 (01:02:54):
Wow, that's incorrect.

Speaker 1 (01:02:55):
I agree.

Speaker 3 (01:02:58):
It's incorrect. He's wrong, but that's good. What uh sudden?
He said? We'll go to it in a minute.

Speaker 1 (01:03:03):
She's the best Summer Slam women's performer ever.

Speaker 3 (01:03:05):
Yes, I think there's someone so probably be maybe trying
to fucking spurrow the list. Dude down for a second.
Number ten is Undertaker. This is this is his first
appearance in any of my lists ever. I think I

(01:03:27):
would I would assume that's probably true catalog, and I
think the Undertaker for me, in this sense, it's more
about longevi fun moments more than good matches. First match
you ever saw? Second, Okay, okay, it's the first match
you ever cared about.

Speaker 1 (01:03:48):
Was he was.

Speaker 3 (01:03:51):
He's a little kid as a little Yeah, well yeah,
he was definitely. Well that's why he remembers it because
his pussys was traumatized by it. He's like, no, my
big brother turned off the fucking show and scared me.
He's like, shut up, that's the moon a bit and
she turned off and that's my fucking brothers Like, god,
you're the worst torpid. Yeah, shouldn't talk to me.

Speaker 1 (01:04:16):
There you go smart. I wish I would have taken
that advice a long time ago.

Speaker 3 (01:04:23):
Yeah you would know, you wouldn't have made tens of dollars.
But yeah, alright, I doesn't take her. That's it. Yeah
he's fucking pretty good, I guess. But he had some
moments he honestly wasn't for a long time became a
good hit. Well, no, I don't think it was. I
think he admitted that he sucked for a while and
was like, I better get MMA training. So I can

(01:04:44):
come back good.

Speaker 1 (01:04:45):
That's not what happened.

Speaker 3 (01:04:46):
That's exactly what happened.

Speaker 1 (01:04:48):
He's nine.

Speaker 3 (01:04:51):
You know what, you know what, you know what. I
don't takers off the list. I don't care. I'd fucking
round to Rousey and said, I don't take her off
the list.

Speaker 1 (01:05:00):
Did not like to Summer Slam.

Speaker 3 (01:05:02):
Yeah she lost, Yeah, run over runner taker, But it
just happened because you fucking being a pussy about it.

Speaker 1 (01:05:09):
Wow, you saw on the list that's gonna win. My
number nine is John Cena.

Speaker 3 (01:05:17):
Did not make my list? He did, He did make
my list.

Speaker 1 (01:05:23):
Okay, so find it out.

Speaker 3 (01:05:25):
Holy ship. Guess what? Quite a bit higher?

Speaker 1 (01:05:28):
The higher for me has him so well, uh no,
we'll get to it. He's got catalog.

Speaker 3 (01:05:36):
Stop was this on something you saw? No, you want
to have like a baseball card? Fucking webs.

Speaker 1 (01:05:46):
Like your match catalog. M okay, because all losses at
Summer Slam. But you want to see him punk?

Speaker 4 (01:05:54):
Oh you cat like wins and losses is if you're
on this is this is who fucking Jarco was talking about.

Speaker 1 (01:06:02):
I don't factor that in. I just factor and what
if they what they did was.

Speaker 2 (01:06:05):
Fun sure and he put over daniel'brien put over cm Punk,
put over Brock Lesnar.

Speaker 1 (01:06:16):
Some great moments there. Number nine.

Speaker 3 (01:06:18):
Yeah, I agree, there's a lot of good moments, and
it's higher than nine. I got it my tigh and
that's so weird for you. It's so weird. What did
are you like? Over compensating?

Speaker 1 (01:06:26):
Now? Now all I have my list?

Speaker 3 (01:06:32):
Very Your list sucks early early on in your list
sucks already. What was your dude? Your list sucks so far?
Dude number nine, Mike.

Speaker 1 (01:06:43):
My number nine is Roman Reigns. The snylist suck.

Speaker 3 (01:06:48):
Could you have a ten, Charlotte, Yeah, list sucks.

Speaker 1 (01:06:51):
It's a pretty good list. Roman reigns.

Speaker 4 (01:06:54):
Uh, he's got It's funny because he's like from our
era of what of you know, doing the show. But
he's got a lot of summer Slam matches, so he's
got the quantity. He's got the tribal combat match against
jo So as BG mentioned, which to me is his best. Uh,
a couple of Brock matches, and the one where he
caught the microphone. I thought that match itself was awesome too.

Speaker 1 (01:07:14):
Oh yeah. Uh.

Speaker 4 (01:07:16):
One of Donnie's favorite matches of all time, the fatal
four way with Ron and Simoe Joe involved.

Speaker 1 (01:07:22):
That was a great match. He's he's got a lot.

Speaker 4 (01:07:25):
He had his first ever like singles match, had a
pay review after the shield broke up against Randy Orton.

Speaker 1 (01:07:30):
Was a really good one.

Speaker 4 (01:07:31):
I had a lot of good matches and hopefully many
more to come because we loved the travel.

Speaker 1 (01:07:37):
And he had return last year.

Speaker 3 (01:07:39):
Yeah all right, okay you ready for mine? A little off,
a little off the board for me, but a guy
who had some really fun moments at this pay of
view and always stuck with me. Hy DJ Caine at.

Speaker 1 (01:07:56):
Number nine two thousand three.

Speaker 3 (01:07:59):
He had really fun matches. He had matches against Daniel
Bryan uh him an x poc was that undertaker and
big show. Love that match, So I Kane, but why
are you are? That's like really good ship, Like you
don't like that?

Speaker 1 (01:08:18):
A big show Caine.

Speaker 3 (01:08:20):
I remember Kane had a fucking championship match against Ram
the Stereo and of course one of my all time
favorite matches. And you know this Caine versus Great Colleague
where Kane absolutely orchestrates one of the single greatest in
ring porn performances of a big man ever.

Speaker 1 (01:08:37):
He's doing make a joke about that match.

Speaker 3 (01:08:39):
No, you're not gonna make a joke of it's honestly
probably his best match, great colleague. No, Kin's okay, well, no,
like in terms of him being like athletic as ship,
he does like all kinds of crazy athletic shit in
this match.

Speaker 1 (01:08:55):
Whatever you guys thought yourself to justify your pics, Fine,
that's what I did.

Speaker 3 (01:08:59):
I'm justified good number eight.

Speaker 1 (01:09:03):
I didn't read some ticker.

Speaker 3 (01:09:06):
Oh really, Okay, so it's not that good. Everybody says
he's really good. He's not.

Speaker 4 (01:09:10):
He is really good, but he doesn't have like the
high end summer Slam matches and some of the top
because but mankind Boiler Room Brawl ninety seven, heart fucking
great Man Event, Austin in.

Speaker 1 (01:09:23):
Ninety eight, Highway to Hell.

Speaker 4 (01:09:24):
That was very fun, even though Austin got like fucked
up early.

Speaker 1 (01:09:28):
In that match. Yeah. I really like that match though.

Speaker 4 (01:09:31):
Mm hmmm uh brock In twenty fifteen where they do
the fucking laugh in his face. Yeah, that's iconic. Edgin
know eight, that was a pretty good one.

Speaker 3 (01:09:41):
I'm falling asleep. Were doing a list? Are we doing
boring ass matches? I didn't give a shit about.

Speaker 1 (01:09:45):
All right, what's your number seven? Ashole?

Speaker 3 (01:09:47):
Well, first off, I didn't give my number fucking eight
posty won't you asked me for my number eight?

Speaker 1 (01:09:51):
Because he switches the fucking orderly.

Speaker 3 (01:09:54):
Yeah, because you can't fucking thing on your feet? How
is that my fucking problem? Fucking exact.

Speaker 1 (01:09:59):
You gotta pick?

Speaker 3 (01:10:00):
Yeah, I got a pick for you. Number eight is
Ultimate Warrior. Hey, hey, I'm talking now. Nineteen eighty eighty
defeats Honky talking Man. You remember that moment the whole
world did eighty nine.

Speaker 1 (01:10:18):
His match didn't even get the tickets jumpsuit off.

Speaker 3 (01:10:21):
His match against Rick Rude one of Ultim Warrior's best
matches ever. I agree that was a good match nineteen
ninety two against Randy Savage arguably what arguably what was
second best of those matches, but it's still a really
good match. I disagree. I liked that. It's not like,
you know, the WrestleMania moment.

Speaker 1 (01:10:42):
But it's.

Speaker 4 (01:10:44):
Gonna talk about his match where a team with Hogan
against fucking Start and Slaughter in general.

Speaker 1 (01:10:51):
Ad Non and.

Speaker 3 (01:10:54):
I stuck with the highlights here. But there was other matches. Yeah,
he was honestly when summer SummerSlam was very important. That
got off the thing and was wrestlated. We got Summer
Slam right by. We need something big, and honestly, he
was there that whole time. I love and I liked
all the Warriors a kid, so fuck you. You didn't

(01:11:15):
have him on your list? You serious, you didn't have
him on your list.

Speaker 1 (01:11:20):
I was never a Warrior guy. You know that.

Speaker 3 (01:11:22):
That's not true. That's not true, dude. Your dad, Your
dad told me he found you coming in your paint
in your face and he thought you were putting makeup
on as we smacked it. But it was actually because
you were being a Warrior fan and he hated that.

Speaker 1 (01:11:33):
I'm embarrassed to say that I was a Hogan fan
as a child.

Speaker 3 (01:11:36):
Why Hogan's got some great ideas He's got. I saw
a lady today who had fucking Hulk Hogan's skin. It
was wild to see it up close and ship, dude,
it looks like a fucking like an old leather handbag.

Speaker 1 (01:11:53):
Mm hm, did you touch it?

Speaker 3 (01:11:56):
Fuck no, I get thrown out of the fucking kids
day if my kids feel bay, I'm not doing that
not again. Good is this BJ you're going with? You
can keep going anytime would be great. Pay attention.

Speaker 1 (01:12:11):
You were just fucking talking about some bullshit. M Le
seven is Charlotte, Oh.

Speaker 3 (01:12:20):
My seven, Charlotte, to look at us?

Speaker 1 (01:12:22):
Are we married now? Hope? No, fucking Murdy, whoa dude?

Speaker 3 (01:12:27):
I want that on the record. Dude in this case
is I'm never murdered. It'll be like a lover's quarrel.
Blame BJ Yeah, I agree. She is fucking very talented.
She's had really great matches and SummerSlam. She has thrived.
She's thrived to WrestleMania and Summer Slam, so Big Game
Player arguably.

Speaker 1 (01:12:45):
The best ever.

Speaker 4 (01:12:46):
Anybody who like hates her discounts what she's done as
a idiot.

Speaker 3 (01:12:50):
No, you don't have to like her, and you don't
even have to think she's good or whatever. But I'm
not talking about what she's made a lot of history
and great but I don't knowledge. Roman Rains is great
and I've been right because you're an idiot, stand tall good.

Speaker 1 (01:13:07):
My number seven is triple h O.

Speaker 3 (01:13:13):
Did not make my list. Oh we made the exact
same noise for both for two entirely different reasons. Ooh,
but both you have you're sliding them. One way, I'm
sliding them.

Speaker 4 (01:13:24):
The other Shawn Michael's unsanctioned match two thousand and two,
the Rock nineteen ninety eight ladder match was awesome. Uh
Steel Cage against Mankind ninety seven, and he had triple
threats against Mankind and Austin and Rock and Angle. So
that's a it's a nice catalog of matches.

Speaker 1 (01:13:43):
Donny, stop it, dude, I hate it.

Speaker 3 (01:13:46):
I hate it. No, did not make my list.

Speaker 1 (01:13:52):
What's your number seven?

Speaker 3 (01:13:53):
It was Charlotte already got excited when we were getting married.

Speaker 1 (01:13:56):
Remember, so we're on Beg's number six.

Speaker 3 (01:13:58):
PJ we get married.

Speaker 2 (01:13:59):
Again, definitely not. I think we're getting divorced. Actually my
number six is Edge. He was probably number eleven.

Speaker 3 (01:14:09):
Though, yeah, yeah, I'm sure he's probably number eleven or whatever.

Speaker 1 (01:14:14):
It has. The TLC he had entertaining mixed tag team
match at ninety.

Speaker 2 (01:14:19):
Eight, but TLC he had the Hell and Cell with
the Undertaker and he, I mean, not a great match,
but the whole storyline with Matt Hardy around this time,
you know, five was very entertaining. Edge is just awesome,
and he told John Cena that next to to the one,
So khudos, I hate you.

Speaker 3 (01:14:44):
I hate you for that, dumb shit. Uh, Michael is
your six.

Speaker 1 (01:14:48):
My number six is Sean Michaels.

Speaker 3 (01:14:51):
I mean, listen, I adore how low you have him,
because you're starting to admit how over it he is.
With that's with that said, With that said, still too
high did not make my list.

Speaker 4 (01:15:03):
Shawn's usually the Grace of all time, and he has
two of the best Summer Slam matches of all time.
But the problem is he doesn't have the depth of
matches that a lot of other people on my list has.
He's got the Triple H match in two thousand and
two and the Razor Ladder match in ninety five.

Speaker 1 (01:15:17):
Uh so he's really on here this high on the
strength of those because they're two of my favorite Summer
Slam matches.

Speaker 4 (01:15:23):
One that it wasn't like an amazing match by any means,
but that I love because of how hilarious it was
was against Ogan and O five, just fucking flip flopping
all around, over selling and shit.

Speaker 1 (01:15:34):
We'll talk about and then uh oh, we're gonna.

Speaker 4 (01:15:38):
Talk about he's got good h of course Vader ninety six.
It was actually a really good match, don there wasn't
Right now.

Speaker 3 (01:15:49):
Michaels absolutely, Yo, looking back now, the fact that you
can still say that is dumb as.

Speaker 1 (01:15:54):
Fun fact that I can be honest. Yeah, why don't
you like.

Speaker 3 (01:15:58):
He thinks it was the right choice that I that. No,
he thinks that Sean Michael should have buried Vader right there,
and he's wrong. Vader should have been world champion and
maybe he could have saved w W a few years
earlier because it was dying under the fucking evil from
of that tiny little man.

Speaker 1 (01:16:15):
I think Vader should have been in sid spot around
that time.

Speaker 4 (01:16:19):
Yeah, that's true, because Sid ended up winning it.

Speaker 3 (01:16:22):
Then we're Sid gone.

Speaker 1 (01:16:25):
He doesn't l R.

Speaker 3 (01:16:28):
I p to both of them, everybody honestly anymore, Okay,
SI Man, Becky Lynch, you mentioned Charlotte, and I agree.
Becky Charlotte is really great. She really is. She's got
some great moments, great stuff. Good Charlotte Charlotte was seven

(01:16:49):
and Beckylynch just six. So I put him together because
again we're talking about the same thing. I would say
a lot of the same things that are starting to apply,
that have always applied to Charlotte is starting to apply
to Becky. Because I see a lot of people turning
on Becky. A lot of people just are like done
with Becky Lynch, And to me, that's foolish. That's one
of the hottest commodities in all of wrestling. It was it,
who is it? It's like the Rock who else?

Speaker 1 (01:17:11):
In stone Cold?

Speaker 3 (01:17:11):
Remember they did the two K commercial where she was
the man and she was with all those stars ball Yeah,
none of that shit. Like there was a time where
she was the biggest fucking star in ww Like I
would even put it past her right so to say that,
you know, you know, look back down. But like I
didn't like the book and how she came back, and

(01:17:32):
maybe she maybe was a fluke. I hear a lot
of dumb shit. She's had a lot of Summer Slam moments,
She's made a lot of history at SummerSlam. She's I
think she deserves then just above Charlotte. But you could
go either way from me, But I think those two
and honestly I said this in an article, I would
love to see another program eventually between the two of
them and building off real life animosity, Like give me

(01:17:54):
some of that fucking real ship, dude, between the two
of them. It'd be fun. So yes, I have Becky
Lunch's six.

Speaker 4 (01:18:00):
One thing I'll say about Becky is that it's something
that a lot of people cried about when it happened.
But her beat her returning I believe was her returning
from her pregnancy and beating Bianca in like thirty seconds
or whatever.

Speaker 1 (01:18:14):
So many people cried about it. We didn't, Nope, me
and you bead. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:18:20):
We sat back and we looked at the bigger picture
and we're like, this is actually really good because it's
not like, you know, she if she if Bianca loses
a fucking twenty minute match, what does that do for Bianca?
She It's like she got screw she got taken by surprise.
And then they ended up building up to Bianca getting
her revenge against Becky and it was great.

Speaker 1 (01:18:39):
So that was actually very well done when they did that. Yep,
I agree.

Speaker 3 (01:18:45):
I don't agree big booking Becky Lynch.

Speaker 4 (01:18:48):
So same thing with Daniel Brian and Seamus at that
resume were Seamus beat him in thirteen?

Speaker 3 (01:18:53):
That wasn't on purpose.

Speaker 1 (01:18:58):
Kick out? No? No, it was.

Speaker 3 (01:19:03):
Yes, maybe holy ship du remember number five.

Speaker 1 (01:19:07):
PJ under five is kurd angle too?

Speaker 3 (01:19:12):
Hell yeah, I have we got it. Excuba a little stool.
I just need a one step still to go a
little bit higher.

Speaker 2 (01:19:21):
Kurd Angle doesn't have the longevity at summerslamt as others,
but SummerSlam two thousand is his first Summer Slam. Guets
can cussed early and still wrestle the fucking match insane
right next year awesome Mattress stone Cold, and this is
just mock fucking peak.

Speaker 1 (01:19:42):
Kurd Angle is destroying.

Speaker 2 (01:19:43):
Ship and two thousand and two the Rain, the stereo
match between Discuss one of.

Speaker 1 (01:19:49):
The greatest openers of all time.

Speaker 2 (01:19:51):
I was there two thousand and three Rock Lesnar rematch
from WrestleMania, and he wins the championship months after fucking
next surgery, mind you. Two thousand and four rematch with
Eddie Guerrero. I mean, this is just I would fuck
what that's that's fucking unbelievable.

Speaker 4 (01:20:10):
I had Austin Mysterio Brock Eddie legend after legend, and.

Speaker 1 (01:20:17):
This is I mean, in two thousand, he's not even
the year into this mm hmm. That's and he's in
the fucking main.

Speaker 3 (01:20:25):
Events Ship the Samman.

Speaker 1 (01:20:29):
That was a long time so he didn't like that.

Speaker 4 (01:20:33):
E c W did like a crucifixion Egle and Stamman
just called him a pussy the other day, and then Kurt.

Speaker 1 (01:20:39):
Angle called him he was gonna kill him. Basically, I
think Kurt Angle probably would kill him. I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:20:46):
Samon looked pretty good, honestly, Samon, he really didn't. Comparatively,
I think he looked good. I'm gonna say right now,
I had him at four so I could talk about him.

Speaker 1 (01:20:56):
I gotta talk abou him too.

Speaker 3 (01:20:58):
Okay, okayacause I am at five. First's your five?

Speaker 1 (01:21:02):
And I agree with everything b G said.

Speaker 4 (01:21:04):
An amazing run of matches, and I'd be remiss if
I didn't mention what came after.

Speaker 1 (01:21:09):
That run of matches. Two thousand and five, kurd Angle,
of course had a matt Classic with Eugene. I think.

Speaker 3 (01:21:21):
Nick Dins more super underrated, like Nickdn's.

Speaker 1 (01:21:24):
More great wrestler. I can't believe that's the gimmick they
gave him. I can't believe that they allowed that when
he When.

Speaker 2 (01:21:32):
He was in like ov W with rock Conway, everyone
would rave about this fucking tech that they had, and
then he comes to.

Speaker 1 (01:21:37):
The main roster.

Speaker 2 (01:21:38):
Rock Conway is nothing, and he's Nickdin's Moore is Eugene yeah, insane.

Speaker 4 (01:21:43):
I will say he probably got because More, just as
Nick Dinsmore might have not had really legs on the
w W main roster, but he got some miles out
of Yeah, I guess that was crazy.

Speaker 3 (01:21:54):
Well, the problem is now he's got mentally a challenge
for the rest of his life. He wants to go
to those comics and just like do the Eugene thing. Dude.

Speaker 1 (01:22:04):
I wasn't like watching her at that time, and I
think it was like I think I went to like
it might have been that year where I went to
Great American Bash.

Speaker 4 (01:22:11):
It was in Buffalo, and I wasn't I wasn't watching
at that time, and I saw ever No, definitely not uh,
and there was I think Eddie and Ray was on
that show. I'm not sure, maybe narrative, but anyways, like
I had no idea about fucking Eugene, and I could

(01:22:33):
not believe that that was a character that was existing
and wrestling.

Speaker 3 (01:22:37):
Because the music was all like silly and ship and
that the screen was written like with the e backwards
and ship. That was definitely wild. It wasn't like Triple
Ah's cousin or something.

Speaker 1 (01:22:48):
I don't think.

Speaker 3 (01:22:49):
Yeah, he was somebody he might have been William Regal's cousin.
I'm not sure who. Somebody is related to somebody. No,
he was Eric Bischoff's cousin or something. I think that's
like his nephew. Yeah, his nephew herself. I think that's
what it was. There was something going on there.

Speaker 1 (01:23:04):
It was that I went to Wow, this that one
was pretty good.

Speaker 3 (01:23:09):
Alright, let's go. But yeah, I had a booker Verus Christian.

Speaker 1 (01:23:14):
Undertaker was Mohammed Hassan man Ray and Eddie jb ellen Bautista.

Speaker 3 (01:23:22):
Uh so, okay, can I go on none of my
five Animal.

Speaker 1 (01:23:26):
And Hide and right on the titles? Remember them?

Speaker 3 (01:23:30):
That's a pretty good that's a pretty good fucking remember that.
When's it? When did the guy kick the baby?

Speaker 1 (01:23:42):
I remember?

Speaker 3 (01:23:43):
I remember that.

Speaker 1 (01:23:43):
I remember there was like so out on wrestling during
that time. I just went to that favorite because it
was happened to be in town. Yeah, that was like
the last full year I was watching wrestling during that time,
and then I bounced off and a bad time.

Speaker 3 (01:24:00):
W W w W killed wrestling for a lot of us.

Speaker 1 (01:24:05):
So I think when you're older and you get Intolay collegeen, I'm.

Speaker 3 (01:24:08):
Gonna say so I'm gonna say something really big here.
I'm gonna say John Cen is my number five. I'm
a higher John Cena is my number five. And I
hate this dude, I do. I hate this motherfucker, but
he has had some of the biggest moments, and I
think me hating him so much made me love these

(01:24:29):
moments more. Right, let's go play.

Speaker 1 (01:24:33):
I like him. I mean, listen, you had your third
favorite matches, Susan ever.

Speaker 3 (01:24:38):
Yeah against Brian Danielson. Agreed, honestly, he's my number five here,
dragon crazy, Yeah, John is my number five.

Speaker 1 (01:24:49):
It was not.

Speaker 3 (01:24:50):
He was the yes man, Daniel Bryan was the American Dragon.

Speaker 1 (01:24:54):
Yes man, Danny, yesman.

Speaker 3 (01:24:57):
Okay, I have nothing more to say about seeing I
have him in five, but that's I don't really have
a lot else nice to say, so I won't say
anything at all.

Speaker 1 (01:25:05):
All right, And your number four was you said it really.

Speaker 3 (01:25:10):
Kurt Angle, all right? So you're number four now.

Speaker 1 (01:25:15):
Mineer four is the rock he has the ladder match again.

Speaker 3 (01:25:21):
Did not make my fucking list either, baby boy. Good move, Mike,
Good move Mike.

Speaker 1 (01:25:26):
He was very much in consideration, but I didn't think
he had enough.

Speaker 3 (01:25:30):
Couldn't even Crack the Top to the sniff.

Speaker 2 (01:25:33):
It ninety eight, the Ladder Match, Top ten, Top Do
Not Agree two thousand, The triple Threat was fucking Great
m two thousand and one Main Events with Booker t.
This was a dream feud, a dream match to me,

(01:25:53):
they delivered. I want the Booker to to win. But
Great Match two thousand and two, another top ten if
you guys want to be really honest with yourselves against
brock Leiser, he makes brocklesser.

Speaker 1 (01:26:05):
Okay, these are just massive moments for me. So the
rock number four, my number four.

Speaker 4 (01:26:14):
Is John Cena. I had him the highest of anybody.
I'm as shocked as you are.

Speaker 1 (01:26:19):
And that's how I know. I am being honest that
I feel that he's up here because.

Speaker 3 (01:26:24):
Honestly, I had him where I had him because I thought,
this dick face is gonna be like misters them.

Speaker 1 (01:26:29):
Why are you fucking doing your list based on what
I think?

Speaker 3 (01:26:32):
Well, no, I'm not saying that's why I know, But
I had him here based on my opinion, and yeah
I didn't that I'm not.

Speaker 1 (01:26:38):
A seenor guy.

Speaker 4 (01:26:39):
But match against Brian in twenty thirteen Styles and twenty
sixteen were both of my top ten Summer Fly matches.

Speaker 1 (01:26:46):
I gotta get him credit for that.

Speaker 4 (01:26:47):
Then he had a bunch of other ones I like too.
Against steth Rollins in twenty fifteen. I thought it was
really really good. Twenty fourteen Brock where you just got
fucking destroyed by Brock.

Speaker 3 (01:26:56):
Yeah, I love that.

Speaker 1 (01:26:57):
One of the most enjoyable summer Slam.

Speaker 3 (01:27:00):
Sometimes, sometimes when I'm having rough times sleeping, I'll put that.

Speaker 4 (01:27:07):
Twenty eleven against Punk was a twenty twenty one against
Rains was really good.

Speaker 1 (01:27:12):
You know.

Speaker 4 (01:27:13):
He he had Jericho and O five, Edgin six, Like,
that's a that's a good list, man, I he I
think the longevity is obviously what helps him here, and
the fact that he's fucking John Cena.

Speaker 1 (01:27:23):
So they just are like, here you can face every
top guy.

Speaker 3 (01:27:26):
Yeah, that's what we have. That's what I is. So
he benefits and they and they drag him and they
drag him to Here's the thing. They're all trying to
impress Vince. He's their little fucking he's his little toy.
So they're like, let's shine him up as bright as
we can. And so you've a bunch of guys working
them as best they can, you know, what I mean.

Speaker 1 (01:27:41):
Mm hmm, I know what you mean.

Speaker 3 (01:27:44):
I know that's why he's on the list for us,
because he got the benefit of working with a lot
of really talented people.

Speaker 1 (01:27:49):
I'm glad I thought of that reason.

Speaker 3 (01:27:54):
Are you fucking talking down to me?

Speaker 1 (01:27:56):
No, I'm saying I'm glad I thought of it because
I was trying to like figure out, why do I
have seen it so high? That's why?

Speaker 3 (01:28:03):
Yeah, for sure, DJ, what number Jen?

Speaker 1 (01:28:09):
I had John seen that number nine?

Speaker 3 (01:28:12):
That's fucking stupid, crazy. I came down there you're talking
about Jeans came not on my list, stupid number three. BJ.

Speaker 1 (01:28:23):
My number three is Triple H.

Speaker 3 (01:28:26):
Did not make the It didn't make the list any
top twenty five hunter.

Speaker 2 (01:28:33):
That's stupid because top twenty five hundred easy. Triple H
has the match with the Rock, has the match with
Shawn Michael's two top ten matches of all time at Summers.
Then he had a great match with brock Lesnar as well.
Cool Triple H. You don't get the Daniel Bryant ran
Yort Moan without Triple H.

Speaker 3 (01:28:53):
Sure he he leached his way in there, like John Cena.

Speaker 2 (01:28:56):
Oh you knew that to happen because that kicks off
one of the great storylines of all I think sure
that you didn't understand you're fucking mom.

Speaker 3 (01:29:03):
I understand. I understood them that I need dude, just
like just like it.

Speaker 1 (01:29:09):
No, you also think someone's a ghost when they're fucking
on the ghost. They said they weren't.

Speaker 3 (01:29:14):
Yeah, it was all fair, Okay, Mike you number three, my.

Speaker 4 (01:29:21):
Number three, Seth freaking Rollins.

Speaker 1 (01:29:25):
Oh, not making noise. Seth freaking was a consideration for
Ron W mentioned them.

Speaker 4 (01:29:31):
I think that him, it's it's quality and quantity because
he he's had a ton of great matches in SummerSlam,
uh seen on twenty fifteen, as I just mentioned, was
a great one.

Speaker 1 (01:29:43):
Rock and twenty nineteen I was there.

Speaker 4 (01:29:45):
I remember the thought going into SummerSlam twenty nineteen was
like people were like, oh, fuck Seth Rollins against Broadcloster again.
People were very over Seth Rollins at this time. If
you remember, people were hating on Seth. I think it
was coming off the fucking detastrophe held on a cell
against the Fiend.

Speaker 1 (01:30:02):
Or No, this was before that, so they hate him again.
Not long after this actually, but he was doing the
stuff with Becky and like Baron and Farren Corbin and
Lacy Evans, tags and shit.

Speaker 3 (01:30:13):
So people were so good and shit, dude, remember but
the match was so good that.

Speaker 4 (01:30:18):
People got so into it and they were piped that
Seth ended up winning Edge in twenty.

Speaker 1 (01:30:22):
Twenty one was a great fucking match.

Speaker 4 (01:30:25):
Finn in twenty sixteen for the first Universal Champion, great
match against Ambrose twenty fourteen, the Lumberjack match. Not a
big fan of lumber back jack matches, but that was
probably the best one there ever. Was Ziggler in twenty
eighteen when their feeding over the Icy title was great
Dom in twenty twenty Dom's first ever fucking match Dominic
mysterious and Seth took Dominic to a great match, and

(01:30:46):
they faced Finn again a couple of years ago twenty
twenty three, and that was also a really good war So, dude,
Seth got a like fucking ten bangers on this shit.

Speaker 3 (01:30:57):
Yep, didn't make my fucking list.

Speaker 1 (01:30:59):
Foal, that's no surprise. Sorry, a lot of people and
puking on Warrior for his fucking great Collie match.

Speaker 3 (01:31:10):
Hey listen, dude, you got your you got your criteria,
I got mine, you know what I mean? And he
met it and exceeded it. Is it me number three? Yep,
I would like to quote a hero on my personal
hero of mine, the late Rick Derringer, When it comes
crashing down and it hurts inside, you gotta take a stand.

(01:31:31):
It don't help to hide. Well, you hurt my friends
and you hurt my pride. Gotta be a man here.
Let us slide. I'm a real fucking American, hul Cogan
baby number fucking three, And Mike, you admit this. SummerSlam
was Hogan's territory for a long long time. So and
then even when he came back, that banger was Seawan Michaels.

(01:31:53):
You mentioned it maybe the last time we did it?
She did you literally? He literally said how much you
like that?

Speaker 4 (01:32:02):
I just don't know how you have Hogan here like
he had like fucking random tag team matches.

Speaker 1 (01:32:07):
We don't why here?

Speaker 4 (01:32:09):
Well, yeah, first like him and Warrior against fucking Sartain Slaughter,
Mustaf and add on.

Speaker 1 (01:32:15):
I think he it was like Megabucks was Mega Powers
one of the time.

Speaker 3 (01:32:19):
Yeah, great match, go ahead, keep naming him for me, thanks, But.

Speaker 4 (01:32:23):
He doesn't have much terms of singles matches that were
any good.

Speaker 3 (01:32:26):
Hall Randy Orton two thousand and six, Bang Sean Michaels
Him two thousand and five. How about Hall Cogan, Randy
Savage and Giant Are you kidding they.

Speaker 1 (01:32:36):
Kidney that's Mega Powers was Megabucks?

Speaker 3 (01:32:40):
Yeah, okay, ones really good, really really good.

Speaker 4 (01:32:46):
It's like during that time they were like putting them
in like tags all the time at Summer Slam for
the most part. No, I think he might have had
one against Earthquake in that time.

Speaker 1 (01:32:56):
You say, no, it's like record. There's here's the thing.
Hogan was the guy at that time. If it was like.

Speaker 4 (01:33:04):
WrestleMania, I could understand, because he actually did have memorable
wrestling matches.

Speaker 1 (01:33:07):
There's just no like, there's not like to stand up
like Whole Hogan Ultimate.

Speaker 3 (01:33:12):
I'll give you my I'm thinking might be like my
top six matches Whole Coagin, Ulti Warrior, Verstar, Di Solder
and General add non kerst awful, not awful, great match,
great stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:33:21):
You had?

Speaker 3 (01:33:21):
Fucking ha who is you remember? Social Guest Ruffs?

Speaker 1 (01:33:24):
You know so much?

Speaker 3 (01:33:26):
No, Sid, come on, who the body was?

Speaker 1 (01:33:29):
Megabus?

Speaker 3 (01:33:29):
Don't even start with me. See you're not even on
my level. Hul Cog Earthquake. You mentioned it's a throwaway.
Great match. Orton six is a great match. You lie
about it, dude. Hate to do this to you. Hate
to do this to you. Hogan and BEEFCA against Savage
and Zeus. Dude, you know that was a good match
for you know that was That's awful.

Speaker 1 (01:33:47):
So that wasn't a tag team match almost every year.

Speaker 3 (01:33:49):
And showing Michael's matches great and then the Megabucks matches
its great, dude, So I don't want to hear it. Dude,
that's the number three.

Speaker 1 (01:33:55):
The only the only ones that Mega Mega powers was fun.
Him against Michael's was fine, but nothing even close to
saying he should be in the top ten list.

Speaker 3 (01:34:04):
That's stupid. A ship that is the top ten, motherfucker.
He's top three. Dude. Good you yelled at me and
having an edge on my list because it's fucking stupid.
I've got the legend Hall coach.

Speaker 1 (01:34:16):
I think after that stupid.

Speaker 4 (01:34:18):
I think we all have the same top two, maybe
in a different order, we have the same top two.

Speaker 1 (01:34:24):
I assume we are the top.

Speaker 2 (01:34:27):
But I never know what Donnie there is an idiot.
I'll say this though, show me yours. There was debate
between where I put my top two.

Speaker 1 (01:34:45):
For me. I think a case can be made that
my number two could be number one. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:34:49):
If you stretch real hard and reach all the way
as far as you can, you can pretend the truth
isn't the truth.

Speaker 2 (01:34:54):
You're right, Yeah, I know you love a good reach around.
I would say they you're a fucking idiot. But my
number two is brock Lesner.

Speaker 3 (01:35:05):
Yeah, I agree, agree, I agree, and that may agree
with that.

Speaker 1 (01:35:09):
So brock Lesner his first Summer Slam, he wins a
championship in the Rock. I was there two thousand and three.
Bang it with cur change, shut the funk up. Then
we don't see Pampool on time and he comes back.

Speaker 2 (01:35:23):
He's done twelve triple h and it's just a fucking
run of awesome matches.

Speaker 1 (01:35:28):
He faces Roman Reigns multiple times, great matches. He has
the failed for me that Dina says top ten, I
understand could be a top.

Speaker 3 (01:35:33):
Ten less he really did become mister SummerSlam. I think
he gave wrestlatia to other people.

Speaker 2 (01:35:40):
Hold, I mean, listen, brock Lesner might have a case
of being for wrestlming. Also because he's fucking awesome. Brocle
is one of the best ever the Summer Slam. The
fucking match with John c that you guys talked about
which no one could have ever predicted that, and it's
one of the greatest moments in Summer Slam history. And
the big reason because the way he fucking did he

(01:36:00):
does that.

Speaker 3 (01:36:01):
He almost killed him, because I loved every second of it.

Speaker 2 (01:36:04):
And it's it follows the line of he beat the
fucking streak, he ended the streak. That's huge going into
that match, and it's all the aura around brock Lesnar.
And this is only two years after he returned. The
match with Seth Rollins, like Mike said, fucking awesome. I
mean even two years ago twenty.

Speaker 1 (01:36:24):
Twenty three against Cody was a great match, was very good. Yeah,
just a physical match that he he just has it all.

Speaker 2 (01:36:33):
Hope one day that we get to see brock Lesner again,
because it fucking sucks that this.

Speaker 3 (01:36:37):
Is I heard from burying him.

Speaker 4 (01:36:41):
I'm pretty sure it's a company decision, but I agree
b Ge. Same reason I put Rollins at number three
because he has so many great manes SummerSlam.

Speaker 1 (01:36:52):
That's why I Brox at my number two.

Speaker 4 (01:36:53):
But I think the the very top quality of his
is a little bit better, mostly because the match Agins
Punk in twenty thirteen, which we talked about in our
Top ten Summer slim Matches, one of the best ever.
This dude was just always lined up for a huge
fucking summer slime match every single year, and he always
killed it.

Speaker 1 (01:37:10):
Even though one against Orton hit me right, I was
I forgot to hit like dude, he fucking us Ran
was awesome.

Speaker 3 (01:37:19):
Jericho is so much tougher and brock than he is.
Uh yeah, I Ponka just Broccoles are. Honestly, here's the thing.
There's a lot of things. There's a few things in
this world the three of us agree on, and loving
Broccol one of them. But always that's one thing I

(01:37:41):
don't get is the and I know, like he's not
around kind of feeling that people get like he's was around.
He's a championships, you know what I mean. Well, like
now that we're kind of looking at the way schedules
are done, like with like Romans showing up every once
in a while, like he just kind of started. But
it's how it is now and.

Speaker 4 (01:38:00):
Something of the Ambrose match at WrestleMania is was ever
times where he would like have a match you were
like fucking disappointed, Like.

Speaker 3 (01:38:07):
I do feel like he would. He would kind of
sand bag some people and not like what he's doing.
So I think he has done that in the past,
but I think his best when he's at his best
and working well with somebody. Again, it might be my
favorite match ever of all time. It's Daniel Bryant and
brock Lesna oh God, just like in terms of like
like it's just he just you know, it's how to

(01:38:28):
work and if he if he likes the guy and
works the guy, he'll do anything that I don't even
want to hear, Like I don't want to hear he
was doing Moon. He fucked up that moon. So but
he tried to fucking move so against Kurt Angle, Like
let's start.

Speaker 4 (01:38:41):
I agree that the whole narrative with him was because
he's always been part time and not there all the time.
Because if people actually watch the match, den't how good
the matches were.

Speaker 1 (01:38:52):
Rocks sells. Also to me, he's one if he likes you.

Speaker 3 (01:38:55):
If he likes you, he sells. There's times where he
doesn't sell. Ask bron Strong just like everyone else. Struman
didn't deserve to get sold for he kind of stiffed
him Ember when he and.

Speaker 1 (01:39:07):
The Yau.

Speaker 4 (01:39:10):
Like a fucking idiot, like smacking people around, and Bractice
started fucking knee and.

Speaker 3 (01:39:14):
The ship out of I gotta tell you from the
bottom of my heart. One of my favorite wrestling moments too.
It's one that people don't talk about enough. Brock Lesnar
and Keith Lee that.

Speaker 1 (01:39:24):
That was twenty twenty right, okay, al right, So who
wants number one? Number one? First?

Speaker 3 (01:39:33):
Harte Brett Heart. I look at yeah, I look at
my list of.

Speaker 4 (01:39:39):
Sean Michaels is mister WrestleMania without question, Ratt's mister SummerSlam
without question?

Speaker 1 (01:39:45):
Did SummerSlam as a classic pay per view with classic.

Speaker 3 (01:39:48):
Massive question or two about it?

Speaker 1 (01:39:49):
I don't think mister no question about it, don't don't
ask the questions because he ain't got any.

Speaker 3 (01:39:54):
I would argue that Roman Reigns is more mister WrestleMania
than Shawn Michaels.

Speaker 1 (01:39:58):
U is great, but he hasn't had the quality matches.

Speaker 3 (01:40:03):
Brett Owen Brett and Brett mister Perfect there were my
top five and.

Speaker 1 (01:40:08):
He had a good match with Drink the Clown.

Speaker 4 (01:40:11):
Yeah, he had Undertaker's best match, Sean Is the referee
was fucking great. And I think what even puts them
above a little bit more is what you don't talk
about or think of with Brett is he had some
great tag team matches on Summer Slam's Heart Foundation, had
one against the Brainbusters that was really good.

Speaker 1 (01:40:32):
Had two against Demolition that were really good, especially two
out of three.

Speaker 4 (01:40:35):
Falls one at ninety that was fucking awesome.

Speaker 3 (01:40:37):
Oh, he kind of mid card for a long time before.

Speaker 4 (01:40:40):
He got all that, so he proved he could do
it as the top guy, and he proved he could
do it as one of the best tag team guys
of all time.

Speaker 3 (01:40:48):
Brett Hartman, yeap, honestly does get enough credit. I know
people say it like but I still don't even hear it.

Speaker 4 (01:40:54):
I love him so much because he he hates fucking
love is Shawn Michaels. Now he professes.

Speaker 3 (01:41:03):
Tell me that's not true. He doesn't wait for payday,
so you chill out on that. So tell the truth
right now, the truth, right now, Brett hard is better
than Sean Michaels.

Speaker 1 (01:41:16):
No, he's not telling the truth.

Speaker 3 (01:41:19):
Is you're wrong.

Speaker 4 (01:41:20):
At Summer Sam, He's the better Summer Slam perform.

Speaker 1 (01:41:25):
No top lists better, he'd be high up on my list.
But Shawn's one.

Speaker 3 (01:41:31):
I'm sure, I'm sure, I'm sure. All Right, is there a.

Speaker 1 (01:41:34):
Better n Ring Undertaker match before this one? Oh? Before this? No? No? Right,
because there's almost no good ones before that exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:41:44):
So like I mean this story, that whole run front
and Taker of like, all right, now you're gonna have
a good match.

Speaker 4 (01:41:49):
Right, because like Sean and Taker never really face each
other before this.

Speaker 2 (01:41:53):
Mm hmmm, it was just I mean it was other
otherwise just the man cond matches, which is like hardcore matches.

Speaker 1 (01:41:58):
So like this is like the start of I want
to take to be like to start want to take
his career.

Speaker 3 (01:42:02):
M okay, all right, well is that it? Are we done?
Hard number one? So I actually credit I'm gonna say this,
this might be a little off there. I won't go
to in depth.

Speaker 1 (01:42:16):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:42:16):
He is the reason that I got canned from Forbes?
Did you know that? Why? He's the Yeah, he's the
reason I got ship canned from Forbes.

Speaker 4 (01:42:25):
Did he say this guy fucking sucks flare him and
they did?

Speaker 1 (01:42:28):
No? No? Uh?

Speaker 3 (01:42:30):
He was he was howking something that I we did
the interview for if you remember, and because I like
shielded a little bit in the article, it conflicted with
some of their ad issues and I was fucking shit
canned as a result of it. I had no idea,
So that was on me. So that I had no warning,
not even no, not even warning.

Speaker 1 (01:42:51):
Yeah, that's kind of dumb, like they should as much
as you suck.

Speaker 3 (01:42:55):
Somebody, somebody was, somebody was mad enough to be like,
he's got to know.

Speaker 1 (01:43:00):
That's crazy. I mean, they couldn't just been like take
it out of the article. Oh I did.

Speaker 3 (01:43:04):
I had to take out the article. And then I
also took my box of ship home because I was done.

Speaker 1 (01:43:09):
I would have put it back in the article. Then.

Speaker 3 (01:43:11):
No, no, no, that I was. I was evicted from
the CMS. They're like, get the fuck out of here, pal,
So yeah, that was.

Speaker 1 (01:43:18):
I'm starting to the story a little bit.

Speaker 3 (01:43:21):
Listen, I got I got that forbes to the resume.
It looks nice when you go up to somebody and
say you work there, Just don't ask how I left,
like I was hoking fucking credit Union stuff or whatever.
So alright, guys, ready to move on? Bat how they
vote for me?

Speaker 2 (01:43:37):
Patreon dot com slash ring RUSS radios only support us.
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Speaker 3 (01:43:45):
Let's move on.
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