Episode 749: WWE SummerSlam Preview, Picks & Predictions! Paul Heyman Interview!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 1 (01:30):
Putting a damper on excitement for Summer Slam. I having
to talk to this guy. Well, I wish you going here.

Speaker 4 (01:35):
It is Summer Slam week. We're doing a full preview.
Hulk Hogan has died. We got to talk about that,
which Super said. Ozzio died rough rough week for white guys.

Speaker 1 (01:45):
You know what I mean, theo from the Cosby Show,
the rapist kid, No, not.

Speaker 4 (01:53):
Really his kid. Wait, hold on, hold on, man, are
you telling me TV families a heart real family? Rob
Briner wasn't Archie Bunker's actual son. That's for my eighty
one year old fucking listeners. Give me a hoot, hoot,
hoot from the home. We're here to talk wrestle on them.

(02:15):
I'm excited, Bja, you seem so excited to be with me.

Speaker 1 (02:18):
Did you say, give me a hoot from the home?

Speaker 4 (02:21):
Yeah, the old people home? Yeah, oh yeah, I'll light
up onunt of that. Right.

Speaker 1 (02:29):
This podcast is great, you're supposed to talk. I love
this podcast so much.

Speaker 5 (02:35):
Yeah, we're gonna You said we're gonna previews SummerSlam.

Speaker 1 (02:37):
That's the big news, gonna talk. Hold.

Speaker 5 (02:40):
I can't wait to hear what Donnie has to say
about that.

Speaker 1 (02:43):
We do have dirty busters and Mike carvings.

Speaker 5 (02:46):
Us the stupidest lies and rumors going on pro wrestling
tells you why the fucking dumb like Donnie, We have
the final standings for Fantasy before summerslamd.

Speaker 1 (02:57):
Uh, it's gonna be interesting.

Speaker 4 (02:58):
But that's that's how you ended up, Donnie.

Speaker 1 (03:02):
Do you know how you did the whole thing where
I was leading and I lost the WrestleMania and you
said I cried or whatever.

Speaker 4 (03:09):
I didn't do any of that. That's what actually happened.

Speaker 1 (03:11):
Yeah, there are concerns BEG could be heading down that
path or summer. Hold on, you know it's going to
happen real quick.

Speaker 4 (03:20):
What we need is we need to get vocal type
live watch situation to where I can capture and like
loop on YouTube shorts like loser losing in fucking last second,
like him just being like Mopius ship Cinnamon just like
Cinnamon turns to the camera and is like, dad did
it again?

Speaker 1 (03:41):
No, I haven't been in this position for a very
very long time.

Speaker 4 (03:43):
Yeah, but every time you choke it away, it's not true.

Speaker 1 (03:49):
They just haven't become close. Since it could potentially come
down to the last match too, although the way I'm
going math on it, I don't think that that's going
to be the case, but it could be because I want.

Speaker 4 (04:00):
To make a vine out of it.

Speaker 1 (04:03):
A great can we make something that present.

Speaker 4 (04:07):
Let's taut it out when you can go back in time.
Remember me and Daniel Brian are the only tatters. I
did it. I did it despite my tatters.

Speaker 1 (04:21):
You should do cameos like.

Speaker 4 (04:24):
Just it's just me jerking off for nobody.

Speaker 1 (04:26):
Who did it for us? Was it Cornette Sonny?

Speaker 4 (04:30):
Definitely?

Speaker 1 (04:31):
Definitely. That was after she filmed something. Her nip was out.

Speaker 4 (04:35):
Yeah, she gave me that for free. The never see.

Speaker 1 (04:44):
I also didn't get run down in cold blood, so
good for you. Maybe the best judges stated it was
good or not.

Speaker 4 (04:50):
I think the judge was the best judge. What am
I right? We have something else today, you're not gonna
mention it here. We did my do an interview with
somebody you want to talk about that.

Speaker 1 (05:01):
That's all Mike Man. This is it was gonna air
last week, so forgive my ignorance.

Speaker 4 (05:07):
We weren't even here and I built the episode five weeks.

Speaker 1 (05:10):
Every week. Sure that I did a fantastic Listen, that's what.

Speaker 4 (05:21):
Listen.

Speaker 1 (05:22):
That's a free one for your blue choo. I did.
I unbelievable. I interviewed one of the greatest minds, one
of the greatest figures in the history of professional wrestling,
the legendary would be Hall of Famer Paul Hayman.

Speaker 4 (05:38):
Did he mention from our last interview we worked together?

Speaker 1 (05:41):
Yeah, before we went on and he calls you fucking dork?

Speaker 4 (05:45):
Yeah, I agree, we got that.

Speaker 1 (05:47):
No, uh, you said something when we interviewed him though,
that really pissed him off.

Speaker 4 (05:52):
I remember, Oh yeah, I don't. I will. I've never
gone back and listened I've never.

Speaker 1 (05:57):
You didn't call him the most worthless person. That's Jim
Jim Cornett.

Speaker 4 (06:01):
But that was a Freudian slip.

Speaker 1 (06:05):
But yes, enjoy the interview. I had a great time
talking to him, Like I don't even know how to
explain it. It's like you're talking to just something special.

Speaker 4 (06:15):
Talking to God Jesus.

Speaker 1 (06:18):
I didn't want to go that far, but yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 (06:20):
You feel he's a wrestling.

Speaker 1 (06:23):
You feel like you could talk to him for like
twenty four hours straights.

Speaker 4 (06:29):
Oh no, I think maybe then he makes me feel
like shit, Well, yeah, that there's one hundred percent true.
Like the guy young about Chris beIN Will in the
Hall of Fame and he was like, that was all
I want to use this platform to just run this
dude down forever.

Speaker 1 (06:39):
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coming to Nintendo switch to, and we also talk a
lot about current w W product and what he's doing.

Speaker 4 (06:48):
Cool. That's awesome. I can't wait to hear it all
the show later and then on YouTube later.

Speaker 1 (06:53):
Same awesome. Go ahead, all right, do you like interviews
with legends like Paul Haymond? Do you like wrestling? Well,
then you should listen to the show like Sonata.

Speaker 4 (07:03):
Dude, you just want this full on Sonata? Do you
want title match?

Speaker 1 (07:08):
Help us? We were depressed. We need you to listen.

Speaker 4 (07:11):
You know, he's in House of Torture now in New Japan,
Sonata and he is looking good.

Speaker 5 (07:17):
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Speaker 4 (07:21):
He's hot hot. We call him hot Sonata. That's how
me and Jimmy call him. We call him hot Sonata,
Hot Sonata, Hot Sonata.

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Speaker 4 (07:38):
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Speaker 4 (07:56):
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Speaker 1 (08:00):
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Speaker 4 (08:05):
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Speaker 4 (08:17):
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Speaker 4 (08:51):
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cannot go on YouTube because there's too much penis and
titties in him. Wow, that's true. That is one hundred
percent true. If you want to see us play, it's
not poor. It's a video game.

Speaker 1 (09:09):
I would pay for penis and teddies.

Speaker 4 (09:11):
Well, here's the thing, Mike, Mike, it's a video game.
It's a horror video game. And we had to take
this dude who is a pervert in some form of fashion,
like a molesters, We're not sure, and then we had
to turn him into a doll. So he's hanging out
with his wien around. Then he had to melt wax
on his skin. It melted into his skin and ship
and then they like they they burned him alive. Spoilers, spoilers,

(09:34):
are you playing? I'm telling you, I didn't know what
this game was, but it's called The Outlas Trials and
it is fucked up, dude. It is the most fucked
up horror game I've ever played. And honestly, it's not
even really close. There's a ton of dicks in there
and boob that's yeah, that's true.

Speaker 1 (09:55):
All right, Well, it came for the horror, and you
came for the dogs.

Speaker 4 (10:00):
One thing I can promise is you're gonna come. Let's
move on.

Speaker 7 (10:04):
We're gonna put this on an order from the w
to dark. You're about to have a discussion about the
one who's borne the finishes. This makes sense in the art.
Tell me who watched the rush? Who's catching it on
the march he takes some one cutting and up here
in the rush blew up like up you smacked down
on the floor on the collision course with the number one.
It back to the ring for the latest report, Ring Rush.

Speaker 4 (10:29):
Alright, guys, time talk w w E Summer slam or
something's happening and that's not that important. I'm gonna go
down here to forbidden door.

Speaker 1 (10:38):
That's what I'm talking.

Speaker 4 (10:40):
World Tag Team Championship Tournament. What m J F in
Happy Gilmore? You're forced to love him?

Speaker 1 (10:48):
Are you serious? Please? First off, it was great, but
what are you doing now?

Speaker 4 (10:53):
Heavy Gilmour was pretty good. I didn't see it, though
I heard what I heard. It was good. We'll address that.

Speaker 1 (11:01):
We'll address that at the proper time in place of
this show, because it's not what we're doing right now.

Speaker 4 (11:05):
Well, we gotta talk first one, because I was going
through what we had to talk about today in a nice,
subtle fun way, you know what I mean. Bad job
that I'm circling back here to the beginning again. I
give an overview and then I come back. But first time,
First guys, it's time to get sad. Maybe not if
you're Reggie Gills. Maybe maybe you're celebrating it like a
piece of shit. Hull Cogan died at seventy one, and

(11:30):
that was very sad, but that's what steroids studio. Also,
you didn't write it here, but Ozzie also a lot
of influence in the wrestling Business Hall of Famer also
passed away. So, like I said, very hard week for
my childhood, most of my childhood had Haul Cogan and
Ozzy Osbourne in it. Both had a lot of black
T shirts in my closet. And I will say that

(11:52):
from the bottom of my heart. It was I'm like, listen,
I didn't really watch the Cosmic show. I did sometimes,
so that dude diying was very sad, and honestly, the
way he died was, he said, very heroic. Ozzie and
fucking Hull Cogan are just kind of like childhood memories
for me. So from the from the AUSI perspective, I
will save that from my music podcast, Too Heavy for Heaven,

(12:16):
but I'm God, I will talk about hul Cogan for
a minute, and Mike.

Speaker 5 (12:20):
That's why you're going to hell because you can't make
it the help Heavy for Heaven.

Speaker 4 (12:23):
Yeah, hell yeah, I made that up on the fly.
That's a good fucking name. I'm Too Heavy for Heaven
is a really good name of it. It's my Christian
heavy metal band, too Heavy for Heaven.

Speaker 1 (12:36):
Probably, I swear to God.

Speaker 4 (12:39):
I google that right now, Too Heavy for Heaven. See
if that is a thing, because I swear to god,
that's on the fucking fly. Baby, it's daddy. Don't focus
stopping he's work. Hull Cogan? Guys, did did Haul Cogan?
Didn't Halt Coke? Did Hault Cogan say that he wished
his daughter didn't marry a black dude and then use
the N word twice in that sex tape that got

(13:02):
leaked by Gawker? Yes, he did say.

Speaker 1 (13:05):
This was a different video, that was a different one
on one with his discretions them together.

Speaker 4 (13:13):
First off, everyone's racist behind closed doors. I hate to
be one to say it, dude, everyone's kind of racist
behind closed door. That's true, dude, you know what I mean.
You're telling you tell me the Italian guy doesn't cut
you off of traffic. You're not saying diego.

Speaker 1 (13:28):
Come on, come on.

Speaker 4 (13:30):
Come on, dude.

Speaker 1 (13:31):
Distance myself from this.

Speaker 4 (13:33):
All right, Well, it's true. Everybody knows. Everybody's just lying
to themselves something hypocrites. So Paul Cogan had a complicated history. Yes,
I say that's true. I mean he wasn't dry.

Speaker 1 (13:46):
As a person. He was bad as a wrestler. He
was one of the greatest ever.

Speaker 4 (13:50):
But a lot of people don't a lot of people
don't subscribe that. He took care of it. He was
a great role model for children for years and years
and years. Every child ever asked him for a picture.
He was a nice person in the most people complicated.
It's well, it is, it is. He listened. He was
notoriously good to the people who wanted pictures and wanted
to be around him. He was bad to the other workers.

(14:11):
He didn't like unions, He said the N word, all
that stuff.

Speaker 1 (14:13):
Yeah, I get all that complicated.

Speaker 4 (14:15):
It is complicated.

Speaker 1 (14:16):
That's not complicated.

Speaker 4 (14:17):
It makes you what happened, okay, but that makes you
a complicated person, mister hold Brooklyn, mister Rogers. Because I
know it is confusing. He doesn't look look in this
moment is confusing because I'm sad Whule Cogan died because
he's a person and a father and all that stuff,

(14:39):
and he had met a lot in my childhood and
the wrestling business I love so much. And on the
other hand, he's a fucking asshole. So it's like, I'm sad,
but like not as sad as maybe I should be.
So it's complicated. If his death, if his death listen,
if his death was a Facebook status, this situation should
be complicated. Bottom line, is.

Speaker 1 (15:01):
There a desire for me to get this on track
a little bit? No?

Speaker 4 (15:04):
I tucking thing. It's Haul Cogan. We're right where we
should be. You know why, because it's complicated, and I
think I listen, He's a huge part of our childhood. Mike,
you love the eighties wrestling and I love rock and roll.
The rock and wrestling connection really was a thing. It
changed the course of what man you and you sit

(15:26):
here fourteen years later, and the reason we're here is
mostly because of the fucking business that was built on
Hulk Hogan's back.

Speaker 1 (15:36):
Yeah, don't disagree with it, and I'll just really quickly
address the elephant in the room. I don't agree whatsoever
with the things that Halk Cogan said. I don't agree
whatsoever with his beliefs on many different fronts. Him and
I could not have been more opposite as people. To

(15:57):
borrow from Hulgogan's trial, Terry Balaya, I don't vibe with him,
never did.

Speaker 4 (16:03):
He just wanted to make this country awesome for a
second time.

Speaker 1 (16:08):
Harry Blayan is four inch dong. I'm not with that.
Hall the wrestler, the man that I watched on TV
for many years. I can say that he was one
of my all time favorite wrestlers, and he really still is.
Because I'm trying to separate the two things. I want
to do that with say Chrispin wid It's very difficult

(16:29):
for me to do that because he'd he murders family.
I don't understand. I can understand why it might be
difficult for some people to do it with Haul Cogan,
and I don't begrudge anybody for feeling that way, But
we are a wrestling podcast. I want to discuss his
wrestling legacy and why he as a wrestler was important
to me.

Speaker 4 (16:46):
And wrestler too because of burying people and not unionizing.

Speaker 1 (16:51):
Sure, but again, as a kid, I'm watching that, I
don't know anything about that, and I don't care anything
about that. And you know, I started watching wrestling at
five years old. Hogan running WWF is over by that time,
He's in WCW, still doing the Red and Yellow. He's
battle and like the fucking Shark and Dungeon of Doom
at that time, Oh yeah, the Zodiac.

Speaker 4 (17:09):
I thought that was cool as a kid, sure, but
I at first, at first, I wasn't watching as much
WCW but I was watching a little bit. I was
such a Mark.

Speaker 1 (17:21):
Seaw Michaels was my guy. But as I'm getting into wrestling,
my dad is renting me VHS tapes every week and
eventually buying me the VHS tapes. And I'm watching the
ninety through ninety three, ninety four and even a little
before into the late eighties, and I'm watching the Royal
Rumbles and the WrestleManias and everything. And you know, you're
a kid. You're impressionable. You're seeing this guy dominating all

(17:44):
the time. You're seeing this guy with an awesome fucking
theme song. He's ripped, He's just he's larger than life
cutting these promos. How could you not be in tis?
Toward Paul Coogan? And I was did you say, come no?

Speaker 4 (18:00):
Insane? Because you just the way you were talking, like
the way he's ripped. I thought the next how could
you not be in love?

Speaker 1 (18:08):
Honestly? I was in love.

Speaker 4 (18:10):
That's part of the listen. That's part listen. Listen. Everybody's
yelling about Sydney Sweeney and jeans right now. If I
don't know this is Timeler or none. But the truth
is sex sells and haul Cogan was this huge, handsome,
fucking ripped up beach dude. Fucking women loved him. It
was fucking a big handsome dude. It was the Rick
Flair thing Mike men wanted to be and women wanted

(18:31):
to be with him.

Speaker 1 (18:32):
Sure, going back and watching stuff from his heyday as
a kid, like I'm like, I freaking love Shawn Michaels,
I love Paul Cogan, And then things really got taken
to the next level when he turns in w CW.
He's the third man forms the nw O and that
along with d X, that is you know, that's the attitude.

Speaker 4 (18:52):
Era, That's that's how I wore.

Speaker 1 (18:55):
That's the ship that made wrestling cool, and that's the
ship that made you want to in every week. Like
for me, of course, like when you start as a
little kid, you're for the baby facers and for the
good guys, you know. But nWo and Halcogan turning, that's
what made me start to like the bad guy, started
like the heels, like I was foxting. I didn't want
him to beat the nWo.

Speaker 4 (19:16):
I like them.

Speaker 1 (19:17):
I wanted it all. I didn't want fuck Lex Luger.
I didn't want these guys to be down to the.

Speaker 4 (19:22):
To win.

Speaker 1 (19:23):
I wanted the hole the title. I wanted to dominate
because when that first started, that was like the coolest
shit you ever saw, one of the biggest moments in
pro wrestling history. You know, he took a chance, WCW
took a chance, and they won big, and they won
for eighty three consecutive weeks, beating WWF. No other company
has ever been able to say they did that. No
other company will ever be able to say they did that.

(19:43):
And hal Cogan's a big reason why. And Hawk Hogan's
also a big reason why WWF was the top company
at the you know, going into that because the rock
and Wrestling connection. WrestleMania one, if you don't have mister T,
if you don't have Hulk Hogan, and that main event
probably not as successful as it was if you don't
have hul Cogan was under the giant.

Speaker 4 (20:02):
WrestleMania three, you know, maybe McMahon mortgaged house. McMahon mortgaged
his house for one based on the fact that hul
Cogan said he could convince uh mister T to do
the match. Yes, he's he literally took his mortgage and said,

(20:23):
I believe in you to help get this done, and
they did it. And holy moly, so like hul Cogan.
Literally the foundation of WWF was built on that man's shoulders.

Speaker 1 (20:35):
Sure, and and really what he was mortgaging his house
on was the idea that Hogan is such a big
star that he can cross over and that he can
get people interested and he can make WrestleMania a phenomenon.
And he was right and that was the case. And
you know, stone Cold, he had his run and he
is one of the most popular and biggest of all times.
Same with The Rock, same with John Cena. But I

(20:55):
think in terms of uh, both height and longevity, I
think Hogan's the biggest draw, the biggest name, the biggest
star in professional wrestling history. And if you're making a
Mount Rushmore of wrestling based on that, Hogan is on
that Mount Rushmore without a doubt. I understand there's other
things at play. Okay, wasn't that great of an in
ring worker or whatever you want to say. Okay, he
wasn't a good person outside of it, But if you're

(21:17):
looking at it from a business standpoint, he's the biggest star,
the biggest name, the biggest personality, in professional wrestling history.
And then you know, in so many of my greatest
memories as a kid watching wrestling, watching the tapes, watching
stuff live is Hogan. It's the stuff from WWF in
the early nineties and the late eighties, and the stuff
from ww WITHNWO. It's him coming back to WWF, the

(21:37):
match against the Rock at Wrestling in a eighteen. I
don't care what anybody says, one of the greatest matches
of all time, the way the crowd reacts, the way
that they feed into it. It's just, you know, if
you're a wrestling fan, if you're like an our age group,
I think at least at some point you had an
appreciation for hul Hogan. Maybe stuff that he did outside

(21:58):
change your perception. It certainly changed my perception of him
as a person, But as a wrestler, he is one
of my all time favorites. He's one of the big
reasons why I became a wrestling fan and still am
a wrestling fan today, and for those reasons. It's very
sad that things ended this way and.

Speaker 4 (22:14):
He's seventy one. I think we buried the leader of
seventy one is way too early.

Speaker 1 (22:19):
He had so many he had so many health issues
in recent years, like surgery and stuff like that, But
you didn't realize.

Speaker 4 (22:24):
I never thought it was hard. I always thought it
was like my back on my knees, right my shoulder.
But like that, stuff doesn't kill you. That makes your
way of like living harder, but it doesn't kill you
like this, that's right. It's rough man PJ.

Speaker 5 (22:37):
Yeah, it's difficult to see, you know, people that you
grow up with, especially now in today's day and age
where everything can be recorded, that things will come out
and things came out of a help Hogan that you
don't agree with, and it makes it difficult to discuss

(22:58):
fully their legacy because it does complicated.

Speaker 1 (23:02):
It's not it's not complicated at all.

Speaker 5 (23:07):
However, to me, vincig Mann is the most important person
in pro wrestling history. Hulk Hogan is the most important
wrestler in my opinion, in wrestling history. Hulk Cogan is
the only person that could say that they really put
a rocket on two companies in such a manner that

(23:27):
he did right w W in the eighties and the
w W in the nineties.

Speaker 1 (23:31):
When he turns Hel's.

Speaker 4 (23:33):
Say, just the industry as a whole.

Speaker 5 (23:34):
Dude, well, I mean, I firmly believe that the industry
is not the same without him, which is clear as day.

Speaker 1 (23:42):
But I mean that it's here said, been fine, and
to shut the fuck up. What I mean by melt
is an idiot.

Speaker 5 (23:53):
What I mean by it is, we're not doing a
fucking podcast about wrestling today. If whole Hogan doesn't do
what he did in the eighties, yes we're not watching
what we're watching if he doesn't do what he did
in the eighties, if he doesn't get into Rocky right,
like that was what really catapulted.

Speaker 4 (24:14):
Can I say one thing real quick quick, I won't
say that our podcast. I wondn't say that I think
that because I know this hit everybody because even my
dad was like, man Hogan. My mom was like because
it was like he's he spans generations, he was around
for so long.

Speaker 1 (24:28):
BJ.

Speaker 4 (24:28):
I think the reason we're hearing for a podcast it's
not eighties Hogan. I think it's nineties Hogan. Is why
you and I and I don't It was literally the.

Speaker 1 (24:38):
Smart it's in the eighties. Maybe it's still the territory system.
You don't have a dominant company like that that goes
mainstream you know what I mean. So I think it's
all part of it.

Speaker 4 (24:47):
Yeah, sure, but I just the smarty nature of the
nWo is really the basis of what we are. Taker
and NW.

Speaker 1 (24:57):
Shirt du.

Speaker 5 (25:00):
Just what we grew to love as wrestling fans. Doesn't
exist without that in the eighties and what Hulk Hogan
Pioneer and spearheaded, right, because there was Andre, there was Bruno,
they didn't have that type of impact that Hulk Hogan
did where I mean Andre was a transcendent person because

(25:21):
it's Andre the fucking Johnny.

Speaker 1 (25:22):
He's massive.

Speaker 5 (25:23):
But hul K Holgan, the way he connected with people, the
charisma just being such a larger than life personality.

Speaker 1 (25:30):
Is what really drew people in.

Speaker 5 (25:33):
I grew up where my dad is telling him, like
Hulk Hogan being a Rocky.

Speaker 1 (25:36):
Was such a big like such a big deal, Like.

Speaker 5 (25:39):
You didn't understand as a kid because as a kid
we've seen Hulk Hogan through several films, like he was
already a movie star by the time. Like we're becoming
wrestling fans for the most part. But the heel turn
the biggest heel turn of all time at that point
in time, right, You might argue John seen this hill
turn just because of how long in it din, but

(25:59):
it didn't have of doesn't currently have the impact that
Hulk Hogan did.

Speaker 1 (26:03):
Right, it was d X before, it was d X
d X over a year later. So it's just.

Speaker 5 (26:11):
The impact that he had on wrestling, whether you like
him or not, it's undeniable. And yes, seeing someone like
fucking Dave Meltzrew claims to be the number one fucking
journalist of all time in wrestling and the historian that
he is to say what he says for people that
don't know, it's just like wrestlinguld be just fine. It'll
still be like what are you talking about?

Speaker 8 (26:32):
No one wouldn't.

Speaker 1 (26:34):
Jos and El San Paul, It's like, shut the fuck
up there. He was everywhere everyone wanted he.

Speaker 5 (26:44):
There were very few people throughout entertainment that you could
say was such a transcendent figure and a wrestler in
that time was one of them.

Speaker 1 (26:55):
Hulk Hogan. You knew he was like Mickey.

Speaker 5 (26:57):
Mouse, How Cold Icon, Michael Jordan that he was in
that category and not just in wrestling, ben he also
when it comes to celebrities and reality television with Hogan
knows best like people understand that was a big fucking
deal and listen, it led to a lot of fucking
issues that he you know, maybe in hindsight shouldn't have done,

(27:18):
shouldn't have done the show, but it was important for
television and just media and what we now watch like.

Speaker 4 (27:25):
And then they became a political It took.

Speaker 5 (27:27):
The real world to a whole different level because now
it's it's Hogan on television. It's celebrity and you're seeing
everything about their life.

Speaker 1 (27:36):
You know, he goes to TNA and.

Speaker 4 (27:38):
Barry's Bobby Rude. I'll never forgive him for that. I'll
tell you what. That's one of the things I actually have,
like a legitimate grape. I'm like, man, I'll tell you what.
I did. Get to see him in his last match,
yeah again Sting with Rick Flair, Yeah him versus Sting,

(27:58):
because what happened was Ric Flair starts being like, oh
I'm crazy as shit and they're and they're all beat
up Sting and oh my god, Hogan turns face again, dude,
ahead match like shut up, it's last shut up, cut up.

Speaker 1 (28:12):
I'm gonna look it up.

Speaker 8 (28:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (28:15):
He had some matches in the UK in January twenty twelve.

Speaker 9 (28:19):
I remember that Seals match, you know, him coming back
in with the nWo and then he faces the Rock,
but then the fans turn him.

Speaker 5 (28:31):
They're not many times throughout the chorus of wrestling at
that point in time where you really got something like
that where the crowd just totally flipped everything upside down,
and then he comes back with the Red and Yellow.

Speaker 1 (28:47):
It wasn't a long run after that, but it like
he did that.

Speaker 5 (28:52):
You can't take away the fact of what he did,
just because the man behind the character acts like a
fucking piece of right and all the stories you hear
behind the scenes about your spot and not putting people
over and the creative control, like listen, when it comes
to creative control, they fucking gave it to him.

Speaker 4 (29:12):
Honestly, what if what if you don't want to do it,
Roman say you want to complain about the situation, fucking
get in your contract next time.

Speaker 1 (29:23):
And the thing with holding people down, it's like he did.

Speaker 4 (29:25):
He did just like Michael's people do that.

Speaker 1 (29:27):
Sh dude, Sure, but they put the belt down the
guy that draws no.

Speaker 4 (29:31):
But I'm just said, Mike, Mike, just look at the
Bobby Room situation is a perfect example, it's his word
to Dixie Carter that ended what was on what everyone
agreed else wise was the right thing. He always did
that and he lies it out. He was in fucking
doing all these things. Listen, it's complicated. It's complicated, dude.

Speaker 1 (29:51):
Not complicated.

Speaker 5 (29:52):
But as far as my whole thing is just the
legacy of the character and doesn't matter if you like
or disliked the man behind the character.

Speaker 1 (30:03):
The character Hulk Hogan is critical to wrestling.

Speaker 4 (30:07):
He's Wayne Gretzky to hockey, right, it's bigger than that,
but it's bigger, but it's somehow bigger than that. But
also Wayne Gretzky was a total piece of shit outside
the rink. That's what it would be like, and that's
what it's like talking about it because it is, for
the last time complicated. Ozzie also passed away, which was said,
and he also did plenty of things w Hall of

(30:29):
Famer and you know Ralsk Dallas.

Speaker 1 (30:34):
Alice Cooper is with Jake the Sneak. He was with
the British Bulldogs at wrestling Yeah too, Ozzie.

Speaker 4 (30:38):
Yes, honestly, And he had done some raw appearances during
that time, like six to twenty twelve ish he was
around and when they did the Osbourne's, I know he
had done something with them fucking bubbles when that became
a big thing. So yeah, that was It was a
sad week. And I don't know if Cosby dude anything

(30:58):
to do with wrestler, but that's me. He was a hero,
so let's talk about that.

Speaker 1 (31:02):
My dad texted me and my brother on Thursday.

Speaker 5 (31:04):
It was just like whole Hogan died, Like this was
a big part of your childhood. Now bigger for my
brother than for me. But like that, because I said,
and I was, I was mostly watching w WS, so
he you know, fucking blues, they fucking bluesedlues.

Speaker 1 (31:25):
I had so many people reach out to me because
obviously they know I'm a wrestling fan. They know I
liked Hogan the wrestler, And like I said, are you okay?

Speaker 4 (31:35):
Like I hate that?

Speaker 1 (31:37):
Yeah, I'm okay. Like here's the thing, here's the thing,
Like it sucks. I mean, he's he's an icon. He's
an ey icon of my childhood. And even though he
became a person that I did not like, Uh, it's
still a sad thing because it's it's nostalgia and that's
the thing I think people. I think a lot of
the people that hold the resentment for for Hogan are

(31:59):
a little bit younger than us. And again I don't
fault them for feeling that way. Yeah, but you they
didn't live through what we lived through to have that
appreciation for Hogan, like the character and the wrestler. Yeah,
and again trying to separate those two things. It's sad
for like childhood me that like a guy that was
like my hero, the pro wrestler. He's like a fucking superhero.

(32:21):
All Cogan's gone.

Speaker 4 (32:23):
So for anybody celebrating his death, you're a piece of shit.
I'll say that. And remember everyone acting like holier than
now also has skeletons in their closets. I'd be careful
because everyone's a liar.

Speaker 1 (32:34):
Yeah, I think. Also, I don't disagree with that. I
disagree with your everyone's racist.

Speaker 4 (32:38):
Oh no, no, I think there's a great there's a
great comedy that everybody's racist in traffic and it just
is what it is. Every listen, listen, we all hate everybody.
We all hate everybody, we all want to love everybody,
But there's everyone, Like most people, nine nine percent of
people not everybody listens to show. My listen show is great,
but everybody else honestly just going traffic the piece of

(33:00):
the ship. And there's times where a slur would be fitting,
you know what I mean. That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (33:06):
I think part of the Hogan thing is that there
was the report from Bubbao Sponge whatether his name is,
that he's on his deathbed.

Speaker 4 (33:16):
I gotta tell you that that dude was ruined hul
Cogan's life.

Speaker 1 (33:20):
Yeah, ship, I still want to know what happened there.

Speaker 4 (33:23):
He let his wife get purpose bangers. Yeah, well no, no, no, no,
he won't. They were they were swingers, so hul Cogan
was like, hey, can I get a swing your wife?
And he's like yeah, sure man. So they're like, oh
we should do something like we like almost like it
was like a bit like we'll just like get on it.
And then that's what that came from, because both Love
Sponge is of the Howard stern Ilk and that was

(33:47):
the whole idea of it. But then you release private
footage like that and YadA, YadA, YadA, we go down
the rabbit hole. Here we are.

Speaker 1 (33:54):
Roller coaster brother.

Speaker 4 (33:56):
Good for you.

Speaker 1 (33:57):
He gives us a lot of great quarterables. I will
say is.

Speaker 5 (34:02):
Besides what was reported a couple weeks ago, is that
it is.

Speaker 4 (34:07):
Out of nowhere. Yeah. Right.

Speaker 5 (34:10):
We know he's had health issues with like you said,
the third all the difference.

Speaker 4 (34:14):
That's like that broken back.

Speaker 5 (34:16):
But he we just saw him in January and.

Speaker 1 (34:20):
Yeah, put out of the building. But he looked fine
for seventy one years old.

Speaker 4 (34:23):
There's a bunch of beer.

Speaker 5 (34:26):
We're doing all the promotions for the beer and the
Archive Bischoff Wrestling and the kard Angle Wrestling promotion that
they're doing. But like you didn't you know, there's people
out there where'd be like, okay, it makes sense, right,
but this at this point in time and you said down.

Speaker 1 (34:40):
He's seventy one years old.

Speaker 4 (34:42):
That is young. That's too young. I used to think
I used to years of steroid abuse. Well that's the
truth right there. That's what and that's what most people say.

Speaker 1 (34:51):
It's true, like he went to cardiac arrest. I mean
years of stress on the heart. That's what steroid uses.

Speaker 4 (34:57):
Yeah. So so that's that's why I'm fat because I
won't die from steroid abuse.

Speaker 1 (35:04):
There you go.

Speaker 4 (35:05):
Visceral heart will kill me, all right? That's I'm trying, man,
I'll get there one day. So that's very sad.

Speaker 5 (35:15):
He Cogan. They did the Tendells saluon SmackDown. They have
video packages and yo it. It is emotional because it's
like he did so much for the business.

Speaker 4 (35:30):
And leave Chleeve Chelsea Green alone, leave people they were
just so they've tested up the test hirt alone.

Speaker 1 (35:39):
No I'm not I'm not down with that, but I
think that you need to let people react and let.

Speaker 4 (35:45):
People Why don't we have emotion police like you.

Speaker 1 (35:50):
You shouldn't have to like if you go on to
uh Twitter and you post something like, oh man, hul
Cogan was such a huge part of wrestling, you know
r I p Like, you don't have to like go
into the mets be like he was a licist.

Speaker 4 (36:03):
Yeah, no shit, we all know, dummies.

Speaker 1 (36:05):
But it was about him being a racist as a person.
We all know that when we condemn him for that.
The post was about what he did for pro wrestling,
the business, which is what we do a podcast about,
and the business that she's in.

Speaker 4 (36:17):
She's in the business. That's like they did, like Walter
Cronkite super important, you know what I mean, Like i'd
say He's an influence on all of us. You'd be
like known monster Walter Cronkite, be like, okay, cool, nothing.

Speaker 1 (36:31):
Wrong with feeling the way you want to feel, but
you don't have to attack others for feeling.

Speaker 4 (36:34):
Well, that's why get off social media. Get off social media. Yeah,
I mean honestly, like now now I'm getting to point
with social media in my life where it's like I
look at Chelsea V and I'm like, you should have
gotten off earlier, you know what I mean, Like do
you just have your emotions share them with your love
for wells? I listen, I get it as a character,
then hire a nineteen year old person out of college

(36:57):
and pay them half price to fucking just do it
for ye.

Speaker 5 (37:03):
But yeah, like they you know, they had the ten
bells Sleu on Raw SmackDown. Nick Hogan was there on
on Raw that was nice to take flew him out.

Speaker 4 (37:11):
And Bischoff, yeah, j hard because his cash couch just died.

Speaker 5 (37:18):
I did listen Tonett, but I listened to Bischoff's podcasts
after Hogan died. And Kevin Nash. I would just say
they're very interesting listens because those are two of the
closest people to Hogan in in w c W and
the impact that he had there, So I thought it
was very fascinating.

Speaker 1 (37:37):
Listens.

Speaker 5 (37:40):
But man, triple h how they speech on on SmackDown
he botched and then they just kept it in on WRAW.

Speaker 1 (37:48):
They just yeah. I was like, you couldn't fix that. Yep, yeah,
probably came back. Probably was good fucker.

Speaker 4 (38:04):
All right, well listen, all right, I'm done with the
sad r I p ho coke.

Speaker 1 (38:08):
I got one last thing to say. Uh, these AI
fucking like pictures of all cog and going to heaven
where Macho Man's like welcome him in, hugging him. Stop
with that ship, because I would what it was.

Speaker 4 (38:20):
Him and iron I am not look at me. I
am not on social media anymore. And I when you
say these words, they just don't compute AI.

Speaker 1 (38:30):
Everybody, everybody when something happens, now they have to make
some kind of AI art whatever.

Speaker 4 (38:35):
Happened, which is what AI is supposed to be used for.

Speaker 1 (38:38):
Obviously, it looks like ship a lot of time, okay, but.

Speaker 4 (38:41):
The one I saw a guy eaten spaghetti one time,
like Will.

Speaker 1 (38:44):
Smith was eating that. But it's like Hull Cogan like
being welcomed into heaven by like other wrestlers who died.
It's like macho man like hugging him. It's like brother
macho man wanted to kill him.

Speaker 4 (38:57):
First off, first off, some better options. Heaven not real.
But second off, if it were, if it were, Haul
Cogan would probably be in purgatory for a little bit
and working off some sins. God's like, hey, hey, come
real quick. No, no, no, you don't go down. You come here.
You're gonna sit in his fucking chair for a loving
You're gonna talk to some counselors until we straighten your

(39:18):
ship out. Oh I'm sorry. Did you just say that's
not gonna work for you?

Speaker 1 (39:23):
Sit down here?

Speaker 4 (39:24):
Man?

Speaker 1 (39:26):
What was the match that you have? Where the chair
then work?

Speaker 3 (39:31):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (39:31):
Yes, Nick Foley had to flip it on to flip
it off. That was Abdu the butcher in the chair.
I turned to woke, woke back hardy there. I don't
know what happened you, hear me, I said, woken. Alright,
let's get Summer Slamm preview August second and third. Yeah,

(39:53):
this ship sucks due When when when a w does
a pair review weekend after week and you're.

Speaker 1 (39:57):
Like it's too Klaus you do.

Speaker 4 (39:59):
You literally doing back to back days. That shit sucks
better than having No, it's not one day. I just
am focused. There's I'm already sitting down for it.

Speaker 1 (40:11):
Watching.

Speaker 4 (40:13):
Yeah, I don't care.

Speaker 1 (40:15):
Is better than having one eight hour show because the
crowd can be hot throughout both nights and for everything.

Speaker 4 (40:21):
It's it's better one financially for the company. But it's
not better for the viewing public.

Speaker 5 (40:26):
No, I will say this, it's better for the viewing
public at home. It's not better if you're going to
the event because you have to buy tickets for two shows.

Speaker 1 (40:36):
You get a half out, but that you get back down.

Speaker 5 (40:41):
No, I think car for the Summer slim.

Speaker 4 (40:46):
Actually, sure, fucking none of this compares to fucking none
of it. It should be. We should be. It should
be to in pay reviews when we do the judge
all that No One Slam one Summer Slam too. That's
how I'm judging. Like, now, that's fine, I refuse, judge
put them on your list either way. So I'm honest.

(41:06):
I'm honest, engine dude.

Speaker 5 (41:08):
I'll tell you what, Tony, it would not shock me
if in three years every pay per view is a
two night event with the amount of money they're.

Speaker 4 (41:15):
Making, I would not. I would also be shocked if
a W makes the move to that as well, because
I really mean, I do really mean this.

Speaker 5 (41:26):
He doesn't have the star power or booking to do
it though.

Speaker 1 (41:30):
That's the problem.

Speaker 4 (41:30):
No, that's not true. If w's that's not a slight.

Speaker 1 (41:33):
I'm just saying, they really don't.

Speaker 4 (41:35):
Yo, you are such a piece of ship. Yo're yo,
you're too ugly and fat to get laid. No, that's
not a slight. That's not a slight.

Speaker 1 (41:42):
The real.

Speaker 4 (41:48):
Yeah, you are too dumb and slow to understand this joke.
Not a slight, not a slight. I'm not gonna tell you.
I'm just saying, Okay, let's do it. D loo, brown
heads out loose in your neck? What was that, dude?
You motor about me?

Speaker 1 (42:02):
Hell yeah, that was motor.

Speaker 4 (42:05):
Boating a fucking little hump on the lower back of mine.

Speaker 1 (42:09):
No, I wasn't doing that.

Speaker 4 (42:10):
I wasn't doing that, I think. No. No, No, I
do have a fatty tumor on my back. Well I
did have a checked out and they're just like, that's disgusting,
but it's fine. I was like, cool, guys, great audio.
This is night one you Got has a shake out

(42:32):
Tiffany Stratton and Jade car Gill. I call her greener
and goose ship Jake Carry, and she's gonna win me
here too.

Speaker 1 (42:38):
Isn't she. Yeah, she is gonna win, I think so.
I don't think it makes sense. They've been building her
up so much. Uh, you know, give her the shot. Tiffany.
I think she's done a good job as champion, but
she's somebody that can easily just win the championship. She's
gonna be around for a very long time. She's gonna
be a top star for a very long time.

Speaker 4 (42:59):
Uh. I.

Speaker 1 (43:00):
I haven't liked I really haven't enjoyed the bill to
this match. I'll say that I just feel like like
she won King Queen of the Ring, so she gets
the title shot. That's fine, but I think you needed
to build some kind of animosity or something.

Speaker 4 (43:15):
There's nobody to talk most of them.

Speaker 5 (43:18):
Instead, it was just Jade has the title in her hands.

Speaker 1 (43:22):
There's a problem.

Speaker 4 (43:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (43:24):
I was not a fan of both. They almost did.

Speaker 4 (43:30):
I thought they were going to set the.

Speaker 1 (43:34):
Jade is much better in the ring than Donnie gives
her credit for. Tiffany is excellent in the ring. I
think it will be a fun match, but I think
Jade wins.

Speaker 4 (43:41):
Jade wins. They're neither's good on the mic, neither's that
great in the ring Jade's And so there you go.
They've got two nights for the ship. Jelly roll like,
right in your fucking wheels.

Speaker 1 (43:57):
You probably love the guy.

Speaker 4 (43:58):
I hate anyone with face tattoos I dislike. So that's
my first fucking speech there. Also, Yeah, I mean I
won't tell him his face.

Speaker 1 (44:05):
I also hate tattoos. I don't hate the person.

Speaker 4 (44:07):
I usually hate the person because if they make, if
they have tattoos in their face, they make really bad
life choices. So no, just because I don't like the
modern day country music and his music blows assholes. So Jell.

Speaker 1 (44:21):
Had the unfortunate task of having to see him in concert,
uh because well it was a few years ago, and
uh it was a Shineedown concert, but he was the
opener and I had no idea who the fuck he
was at that time. This is before he blew up.
I was like, I don't know.

Speaker 4 (44:37):
Like physically, like the five hundred pounds whatever.

Speaker 1 (44:41):
He had already gotten to that point. But I mean
his popularity, like I know you it was of his country.
I was like, I don't care. I'm gonna go get
a drink.

Speaker 4 (44:49):
I love country, but I don't love this kind of country.
I don't love new country. New country blows. But you
give me Merle Haggard. Hell, yeah, yes you do. Well,
you probably don't. I'm actually from.

Speaker 1 (45:00):
I do, but I don't like country music.

Speaker 4 (45:02):
So but yeah, jelly Roll wins because he's famous.

Speaker 1 (45:06):
Agree. Does Drew McIntyre get back to the country in time?
I think I think so too.

Speaker 4 (45:13):
Yes, Trump will be like I never know what you're
Trump Trump was. Trump's gonna be like Trew Spine. Let
him through. He's he's wide enough.

Speaker 1 (45:21):
Let him as soon as he crying about South Park
right now.

Speaker 4 (45:24):
No, he's crying about the kids and fucking what.

Speaker 1 (45:28):
I'm not gonna He's definitely not crying about kids. He's
definitely crying about fucking kids. He loves doing that. So
he's crying about the Give me.

Speaker 4 (45:36):
The lists, Gunther and see him punk.

Speaker 1 (45:41):
All right, this is gonna be amazing main event of
night one.

Speaker 4 (45:46):
Yes, I agree, Yeah, give give him token headlining matches.
That sounds good to me. Just wins, mmm, just wins.

Speaker 1 (45:56):
I don't think just wins. I think if this is
main eventing the nights, something big has to happen.

Speaker 4 (46:04):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (46:05):
I guess the other other, this other option, but I
don't buy into the whole. Oh, he's not hurt at
all and he's just gonna find I don't buy into
that he's So this is the main event, I'll say
Punk wins. He's been all around the world title. It's

(46:26):
been you know, we're going on two years since he's
come back. Uh, he's been consistently getting huge reaction, has
been one of the best parts of the show every
single week. I think it's totally fine to put the
title on him. I don't think it hurts Gunther to lose.
To see him Punk, you know, see him. Punk's been
one of the best Summer Slam performers of all time.

Speaker 4 (46:46):
There's another.

Speaker 1 (46:49):
And I'm on the road to the pick, and I
think that he wins here, and then if he is
the champion moving forward, then it makes even more sense
for one seth rounds. Also, he does return and cash
it at him. Yes, it's possible Gunther wins and you
go back to this and Punk wins the next time.
But if it's gonna make it that night one in
Summer Slam. I think Punk wins.

Speaker 4 (47:09):
They just did this dumb ship with Jake. Give Goonther
a huge fucking win over see Him Punk, and then
you can let see them Punk to take the title.

Speaker 1 (47:18):
I need that for my fantasy team.

Speaker 4 (47:19):
Donnie, I don't want it anymore. I'm sorry. I say
see Him Punk.

Speaker 5 (47:25):
Thing, though we're gonna go off the air both nights
with title changes to the baby face.

Speaker 4 (47:31):
Yes, yes, honestly, that's very dumb. Well not really, and
we'll get to that. Well, you're talking about Cody in
the Double Turn.

Speaker 1 (47:38):
Okay, okay, okay, that's fair, that's fair. Yeah, I'll say
Guther just won it in my June. But to me,
I think you go with see Him Punk, right.

Speaker 5 (47:51):
I I know, I I would like there to be
more of a bill to him winning versus Gnther, but
there's been the build of him winning the championship ever
since he came back, and so I think you kind
of have to strike while he's healthy because you never
know what's that.

Speaker 4 (48:09):
I'm true, he's weak, his body's weak.

Speaker 1 (48:11):
His weak It's like when Downey wanted Stingers Triple h
instead of Stinger's undertigger.

Speaker 4 (48:17):
That's not what happened. If I if I cared enough
to check the audio, what happens. Check the audio, check the.

Speaker 1 (48:25):
Live it in reality here, that's what happened.

Speaker 4 (48:27):
Checked the audio, dude, on your whole lines, I wrote
sting articles that got Dave Meltzer lion. That is true.
The judgment day Raquel Rodriguez and Rock sand Ferez against
Charlotte Flair and Alexa Bliss. I think Charlott Flair and
Alexa Blitch just win here because Roxanmperez and Rock Rodriguez,
I don't really need the titles they got Nintendo Swift

(48:48):
and DOM.

Speaker 1 (48:49):
I don't think so.

Speaker 4 (48:50):
I think hold on.

Speaker 1 (48:53):
Something up there.

Speaker 4 (48:54):
Blissen Flair actually have some momental, They actually have a
little support. They win in here.

Speaker 1 (49:01):
They had a little bit of grace. Yeah, I have
a little bit of grace. I think you gotta continue
to build this up.

Speaker 5 (49:06):
I think they just win it after like if their
second title shot their first is there's a one on
one title shot.

Speaker 1 (49:13):
To me, it's just like if they win.

Speaker 4 (49:15):
Their two former multi time world champions again, there's.

Speaker 1 (49:19):
Gotta be some type of.

Speaker 5 (49:22):
Is something that happens between them and Judgment Day to
really build something where it's meaningful.

Speaker 1 (49:26):
Otherwise it doesn't do it. It doesn't do much. But we're
kind of cultivating a team. They just became a team,
and you're you're doing they're doing a very good job
of slow playing this. Like Charlotte was resistant and then
they became a team. Then they had that fatal forward
match at Evolutions, Charlotte saved Alexa. They're becoming more friends.

Speaker 4 (49:43):
What's it lead to, Mike them eventually.

Speaker 1 (49:46):
Winning the titles?

Speaker 4 (49:47):
No no, no, no, no, no, no, no no, I don't think no,
no no, it's Alexa blissed Charlotte Flair, multi time world champions.
Charlottair is the most decorated woman in w B history.
It should be leading Charlotte Flair. Should Charlotte Flair versus
Alexa Bliss one on one Women's Championship eventually, But that's

(50:07):
what We'll give the title to them now. They don't need.

Speaker 1 (50:09):
They WrestleMania is a long time from now. Okay, so
it's not. It's not, but it's not. It's only like,
so you don't need to get into the title right now.
They can get the title the next time and you
you they have to fight through adversity to become a team,
to bond together and win the championship, and that's how

(50:30):
you make it madder when they do break up and
they do feed with each other. So I and again,
I think Roquel and Roxanne have been fucking awesome. I
actually like them more as a team than Roquel and Live.
I just think that their their styles play off each
other very well. I like that they're having matches every
single week. It feels like it feels like there's actually
some momenta behind the women's tag team division. Finally, so

(50:52):
I have them win this. Probably Cheat and Charlotte Alex
have to regroup. They ultimately do win it, but I
wouldn't yet. I'm like, what, We're gonna have three title
changes on night one? Right? I don't think so. I
don't think so.

Speaker 4 (51:06):
Yes, Roman Rains and jay Us so bron Breaker Bronson Reid,
Bronson Reid here taking the l Romeo jay Us opens
Bronson Reid. Romeo is victorious. I think he gives his cousin.
I don't need it. He don't need it, dude. He's
gotta fucking he had four months off.

Speaker 1 (51:27):
So he hasn't won it a very long time. MS
has not won the match this entire year. He just
came back.

Speaker 5 (51:33):
They beat my Here's my thing, though, Donnie, I agree
they don't need it.

Speaker 1 (51:40):
They're established Brian and Bronson Reid.

Speaker 5 (51:43):
They need it, and you want to start putting over
some heels in your company, young up and coming heels
in your companies, only bron Breakers. Here is the future.
This would be a massive win for them. Pull unfortunate
it's not gonna happen. I actually just don't.

Speaker 1 (51:57):
I don't know how you get there, because you'd have
to have like interference with some kind If we're establishing
that seth Rollins can't do it, they do. They bring
a new person in the stable.

Speaker 5 (52:06):
Maybe how about this, Mike, you play seth Rollins music
Roman Reins and Jays like what the fuck?

Speaker 4 (52:12):
He ser They turned their back and he puts his
hands on his head, like, what the fuck's music?

Speaker 1 (52:21):
I don't. I don't like what happens, and.

Speaker 4 (52:24):
I know I actually hate that.

Speaker 5 (52:26):
That's one of the things like when Rains came back,
fucking Bronson. Ree could have done like ten tsunamis on
to Jay, but Nope, got to wait for Roman Rains
to walk down the want this. I think I'm saying
that Roman and Jayon Soeth doesn't come out.

Speaker 1 (52:41):
That's the thing, it's just the music plays. I think
the only way bron and Bronson win is if you
bring a new person in the group and they interfere
and then Jay takes.

Speaker 4 (52:49):
The fall the winning.

Speaker 1 (52:55):
Let's just let's just theorize, right, who could it be?

Speaker 4 (52:58):
Who could it be?

Speaker 1 (52:58):
Now?

Speaker 4 (52:58):
It would be Rollins. He's not as injured as you think.
None of those guys had impact because I didn't build
anybody up properly.

Speaker 1 (53:06):
Trick Williams.

Speaker 4 (53:07):
Trick Williams was under shitty undertaker. So yeah, I guess
you could probably do that, but I don't. I don't
think it fits. I don't think it fits his style.
He's like, what is he? You know, followed somebody else
or I don't know, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (53:18):
Is there an athletic freak?

Speaker 4 (53:23):
Oh yeah, I guess Carmelo Hayes. Yeah, but he was
more of like protege and now he's out on his own.

Speaker 1 (53:27):
He's not. He was a lackey at first.

Speaker 5 (53:31):
Well yeah, but he became I'm breaking went backwards being
said Rollins lacky.

Speaker 1 (53:37):
I mean Obafemi would be cool, but he's still champion.
I don't know they would do that yet.

Speaker 4 (53:41):
I just don't think there's a guy right now, in
my opinion that would be working. Is a guy on
the roster currently. Well, let's go the next one. What
you think Sammy's Russev would have been? He hates Russev,
so it's whatever. I will say this. You're very consistent
about you're not liking Russev, which is fine.

Speaker 1 (53:59):
I appreciate like them. I don't. I don't. I don't
think so.

Speaker 4 (54:04):
Sammy savers we gotta give carry On a cross a win. No, no,
I think we do.

Speaker 1 (54:12):
Why what does that accomplish?

Speaker 4 (54:14):
I don't know. I just feel like they're gonna try
to give him a little bit of a shine since
he got so over himself. I just do. I think
that's why Sammy's here was just just put him over.

Speaker 5 (54:24):
What is the purpose of them saying like, oh, you
were right, Oh you were right.

Speaker 1 (54:28):
I do the toughest things you can do, and that
you were wrong.

Speaker 4 (54:32):
Did your wife tell you that shows personal growth? When
you're not like that, your wife would tell you, dude,
time or two, time or two you're like, well, guess what.
I'm not fucking wrong, that's what you say.

Speaker 1 (54:44):
I got the answer for helping Ron and Bronson.

Speaker 4 (54:47):
O my Ronda Rowsey Actually wouldn't be that would be
a good spot Killers Ship. I love that because back
beats of ship out of Roman reins.

Speaker 1 (54:58):
Travis Scott, No, who's that.

Speaker 4 (55:04):
Skateboarder? Is that skateboarder?

Speaker 1 (55:06):
Yeah? Yeah, Travis Scott was not a skateboard He was
an extreme sports athlete rock.

Speaker 4 (55:14):
Yeah, you go, dude, Ship and part guess what that's
that's that's our generation, this generations Orton and Sina. Okay,
that's night one. I'm predicting it to be not good.
That's my prediction.

Speaker 1 (55:32):
So night two, uh well I think both cards are
good night too. I'm got a raging hard on.

Speaker 4 (55:39):
For though disgusting.

Speaker 1 (55:41):
Yeah, well you look at that match number six that.

Speaker 4 (55:46):
Well we're gonna start there. Number one is are at
the bottom and work our way up the Wayatts six
against ANDRADI and Phoenix against di I Y against Praxium
against motorcy machine guns against street profits. For the it's
a tables and chairs match, and that is something real quick,
real quick. I want to say this right. I want
to say my day. Yeah, this is booked by one

(56:12):
of us. I am almost five. This sounds like a match. Yes,
Like this is like well during one of our fantasy trants.
Maybe not Praxis, it was too long ago, but this
sounds like something we had. It sounds like something I
put on my thing where you're like, you don't know
what to do with all your teams. No, so you're like, okay,

(56:33):
so I got six some funk I took too many.
I'm gonna do like a sixth person. Fucking TLC man
talk the sixties. Fucking yeah right, put it first.

Speaker 1 (56:47):
Like all these teams have really been feuding for like
a long time and going for the titles.

Speaker 4 (56:51):
So the answer, that's what swapping titles does to a
division too. Now you have five guys who are champions
and who won it back.

Speaker 5 (57:00):
I had interactions throughout the whole year for the most part.
This is a nice sort of make do for not
putting them on wrestling and the should have. After that
ladder match at the Hound SmackDown was incredible.

Speaker 1 (57:09):
I like someone might.

Speaker 4 (57:11):
Die, ye, no, remember top die? I saw top Dalla
jumped on the ladder. Wrong. That was first Holy ship.
Let me tell you something. I mean this in the
bottom of my heart. I think I'd rather hit my
head first than my dick first. I mean that ship
like like take a bump on the side as it is,

(57:33):
But hold on, how is you as a wrestler, Like,
that's the bump you chose, that's the road you chose.

Speaker 8 (57:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (57:41):
Holy, that was a fun ladder match.

Speaker 4 (57:44):
I didn't watch it. I just saw his dick. It ruins.

Speaker 5 (57:46):
I watched the pay per view. This this match is
going to be absolutely insane. This could easily still is
showing the match of the year for people like us
who love these type of matches. It could be one
of the best DLC matches of all time. I just
these six teams. It's not just any six teams, it's
these people in it. Like Fraxine is they're fucking crazy
on Driving and the Phoenix we see on driving Laddin matches,

(58:08):
He's he's wild.

Speaker 1 (58:09):
Are some of the best flyers and then some guys
that can kind of wreck shop. Let's like write what
you want.

Speaker 5 (58:14):
Like montez Ford of what he might do in this
fucking match. I can't wait, And I agree Mike, they should.

Speaker 1 (58:20):
Open the show YEP, no doubt.

Speaker 4 (58:24):
Yeah, agreed. Uh, and real quick, I had to got
to so I didn't look at the cover anymore. I
got to sign it out. W E actually got a
house at Universal Studios Halloween Horror Nights.

Speaker 1 (58:36):
It's the that's brilliant marketing.

Speaker 4 (58:38):
It's and you know what, it makes me so sad bray,
Whyat's gone? When I saw this as my first thought, Yeah,
the Fiend will one day be a movie. I'm so
positive of it.

Speaker 1 (58:48):
I'm sure they'll incorporate the Fiend into it.

Speaker 4 (58:50):
Oh he is. He's in the fucking advertising for it.

Speaker 5 (58:54):
The Wyatt six is going to win this, Yes, because
of the Halloween Horror Nights.

Speaker 1 (58:59):
It's funny because I would is gonna pick before that
became official. That's why the winding of it, I was
gonna pick the three profits and want it back. But yeah,
I was just thinking the same thing.

Speaker 5 (59:07):
But now it's the Why six because of the Universal things.

Speaker 4 (59:10):
Agree. Hell yeah, man, I saw that. I popped big dude. Yeah,
as soon as I'm not going, I'm not going to land.

Speaker 1 (59:19):
There's such a bitch.

Speaker 4 (59:22):
I gotta be telling you the truth. I'm also quite scared.
I am quite jump scary, and I he that's a
horrible reason I hate haunted houses. I swear to God.
I swear to God. I'm a bitch.

Speaker 1 (59:36):
Honestly every week that I know you, I just hate you.
Don't you love Halloween supposed to?

Speaker 4 (59:41):
Yeah? I do, I do. I do my own handed house.
But it's not scary for me. I get nervous. I'm nervous.
I get around at a house. I'm nervous.

Speaker 1 (59:54):
You know.

Speaker 4 (59:55):
It's just it's the of the the hay rack. It's scary.
Scary maybe when I was fivee oh, getting stroll in
my shoes. All right, Let Naomi gets Ria Ripley and
the other sky should be good. Two thirds good. Naomi

(01:00:19):
just defends, Oh, I should have started two thirds. I
think I think Naomi that yet.

Speaker 1 (01:00:26):
But why is the two thirds good?

Speaker 4 (01:00:27):
Go ahead on Hogan because I don't think Naomi is
as good as the other two at all.

Speaker 1 (01:00:32):
I don't understand. I don't. I don't understand the about
face that he's done on Naomi when he loved her
in the past and she's better than she was then.

Speaker 4 (01:00:39):
I don't know. I mean, yes, she is better than
she was. That it was a very low bar to
get over. But yeah, he has something to.

Speaker 1 (01:00:45):
Do with your appreciation for Hogan growing since twenty fourteen.

Speaker 4 (01:00:51):
Tessa Blanchard, she let's move on to no no, But
I really do mean it. I just don't think. I
don't think she she's up to stuff. Aria Ripley, I will.

Speaker 1 (01:01:03):
Say, Okay, that's fine. I don't think she's as good
as too of the best in the world, but she's
not there.

Speaker 4 (01:01:09):
So I said two out of three, you're gonna make
it great? Part what part of my fucking ship? Didn't
you understand? They're tough guy?

Speaker 1 (01:01:15):
I will say this the part where you lie.

Speaker 5 (01:01:18):
Naomi has a tall test to meet because Ria EO
and Bianca had one of the best triple throw matches
I've ever seen, and.

Speaker 1 (01:01:26):
They're running it back.

Speaker 5 (01:01:27):
But when Naomi is great, but she's not Bianca bel
air and so they have But what is interesting for
this match, in this dynamic is she's a clear cut heel,
whereas we didn't really have a defined heel heading into
WrestleMania for that match.

Speaker 1 (01:01:46):
So there's different dynamics.

Speaker 5 (01:01:47):
So I'm very much looking forward to that. I think
it's very clear as data Naomi is going to win.

Speaker 4 (01:01:51):
No doubt.

Speaker 1 (01:01:52):
The Championship. It's gonna be a fucking incredible match, Like,
there's not even a question about it. But Naomi, Yes,
she's definitely gonna win. She's gonna face Stephanie not what
in paris? Absolutely okay?

Speaker 4 (01:02:05):
Uh Becky Lynch against Lyra Valkyrie. A bunch of stipulations
on this one. Again, what is what are we doing?
Why are we doing this?

Speaker 1 (01:02:13):
It's it's interesting that they're putting the No DQ.

Speaker 5 (01:02:15):
Match, a street fight in the main event, and a
TLC match and a steel cage match all night.

Speaker 1 (01:02:22):
Yeah, a lot of stipulations on one night. What the
fuck this really is? Like, we fucking booked.

Speaker 4 (01:02:28):
The card, I swear to god. That's when I first
I saw it. I was like, because I was trying
to write it all down, I was like, dude, what.

Speaker 5 (01:02:35):
And when they announced Becky and Lyra is no d Q,
but then Seena and Cody is the street fight?

Speaker 1 (01:02:40):
Like what are you doing? Every match? Every matches for
actually getting interference in both so.

Speaker 4 (01:02:46):
Well, look, every match is for a championship, and every
match has a stipulation. It's literally our fucking cards. It's
literally like you gotta get the votes man, Yes, serious,
guess what these are, like, Dave. If Dave doesn't like it, then.

Speaker 1 (01:03:01):
Farming for pay per View of the Year votes.

Speaker 4 (01:03:04):
He's like, God, that dick, that fucking Tony con such note, baby,
can you help me pull up DP?

Speaker 1 (01:03:14):
It is funny.

Speaker 5 (01:03:14):
Night Too is just like Summer Slam on steroids.

Speaker 4 (01:03:18):
It's it's booked by.

Speaker 1 (01:03:20):
Marx Night One. They're getting acclimated b G Night To.
What the hell? Why do they separate? No?

Speaker 4 (01:03:28):
Night one is like Night one is like for the dads,
and ship Night Too is for the kids. Dude, kids, man.

Speaker 1 (01:03:35):
This is crazy? Who created the fu order of it?

Speaker 4 (01:03:41):
But you gotta pick for Becky Theenlyra so uh.

Speaker 1 (01:03:45):
I'm sure it'll be a great match because they have
really good intering chemistry. The no d Q, no Connor.
That tells me that that's definitely gonna be interferenced. And
you know, we had a little segment with Bailey on Raw.
Bailey has been involved in this. I think Bailey gets involved.
He screws over Lyra, she turns heel uh and Becky
wins And basically Bailey's payback on Lyra is you know

(01:04:08):
I screwed you over because you know you preventing me
from getting another another title shot. Now you can't challenge
for that title as long as Becky's champion.

Speaker 4 (01:04:15):
I hate, I just hate. I mean this goes back
to the Cody ro Hel.

Speaker 1 (01:04:19):
Bailey is great by the way, you just yeah, for sure,
but you just.

Speaker 4 (01:04:22):
It's just this whole dumb ship. As long as I'm
in the champion, you can't challenge. It's gotta be done
really well, and it's gotta be the right story. And
this ain't it, ain't it?

Speaker 5 (01:04:33):
I think I think I think Bailey does something with
Cardi B.

Speaker 1 (01:04:39):
What shakes beats are up?

Speaker 5 (01:04:46):
They I mean Dailey is sweeten either and ship.

Speaker 1 (01:04:49):
I can see Bailey like turn here like I don't
know if anybody would do something with Cardi would be
like Chelsea Green that would fit.

Speaker 4 (01:04:55):
I think, Yeah, I'm excited to see that.

Speaker 1 (01:04:59):
I'm always excited to se Cardi B.

Speaker 4 (01:05:00):
Becky Lynch wins Solo's to go against Jacob for two.

Speaker 1 (01:05:06):
See, the other matches are encouraging interference. This one it's
gonna stop the interference. There's no way somebody can get
inside of Steel.

Speaker 4 (01:05:11):
We've diagnosed that. It no, it's nice.

Speaker 5 (01:05:19):
Has to take like two steps tall can get into
the cage.

Speaker 1 (01:05:26):
You know how he steps over the top rope to
get in. He's gonna step over the top of the cage.

Speaker 5 (01:05:32):
I would like to see him rip the fucking door
off the cage.

Speaker 1 (01:05:36):
Probably will.

Speaker 4 (01:05:37):
It's gotta be gotta be Tongan. Gotta be Tonguan. Does
sound like an awesome like whatever, like get involved here.

Speaker 1 (01:05:47):
He has to final three.

Speaker 5 (01:05:50):
They call them n f t s, but it stands
from my family tree.

Speaker 4 (01:05:54):
No, it's motherfucking tongueans. They did it in that is
my fucking Tonguans.

Speaker 1 (01:06:04):
I would think Jacob wins the championship back. I think
so too. I mean, I kind of like Solo.

Speaker 4 (01:06:12):
Solo is going to retain here, you can't, but I don't.

Speaker 1 (01:06:15):
I don't know how I feel about Jacob losing in
a row, you know, but if.

Speaker 4 (01:06:18):
He loses, Yeah, it's not a pin it's not a pinfall.

Speaker 5 (01:06:22):
It's just because they can, like like the other season,
just drags Solo out of.

Speaker 4 (01:06:30):
I think, so Jacob jumps off the top, Tongua catches him,
puts him back like a fucking.

Speaker 1 (01:06:38):
Z box fantasy purposes. We're going with Jacob.

Speaker 4 (01:06:41):
Okay, there, that's the the mic. I miss that's that's
t n A moment, fucking what the moments Mike right there,
just angry. Then we have Dominic Masterio against a j Styles.
Dominic Zero got a huge pop in Triple A. Latinos
love their Latino friends and it is what it is

(01:07:03):
and four.

Speaker 1 (01:07:05):
Ten Grande Americano, Dragon Lee and Leo del Vi Kingo
that's gonna be crazy and that's on YouTube.

Speaker 4 (01:07:13):
Hey listen, remember that song my fucking by meat Love.
Three out of four in bed.

Speaker 1 (01:07:19):
Who were saying is not good and that.

Speaker 4 (01:07:24):
He's he's he's way better than hook.

Speaker 1 (01:07:27):
As I said from David, I'm gonna go with Dom here.
Actually I think you were teams. I'm going down too.
If the Judgment Day would have lost the tag a
goddamn jobber. Now, if the Judgment Day would have lost
the taking tiles on raw, I could have seen like
a storylinehere the Judgment Day lose all their titles. But
I think they all keep their titles. I think Dom wins.

(01:07:48):
There's obviously gonna be a ton of interference here. I
think Dom wins. I think I think Baylor is ultimately
gonna be the one to beat Dom for the icy title.

Speaker 4 (01:07:56):
Dom Doom's in the creative meeting and they're like, listen, Dom,
we have another hot chick here we want you to
make out with. And he's just like, ah, I guess
I get you know what? My hey, baby baby. They're
doing it at home again.

Speaker 1 (01:08:07):
They're doing it like the best fucking bookings. Yeah, dude,
it's insane.

Speaker 4 (01:08:13):
Ray's like, I'll tell you my fucking whole existence if
you make my son have the greatest career ever. He's
like yes, hell yes, And he's like that I got married,
and he's like, you were the biggest idiot. Race John
Cena and Cody Rhodes in a street fight for the honest.
That means that means interference, which means to me, we

(01:08:34):
were kicking the canda on the line. Here. I got
John retaining, what.

Speaker 1 (01:08:38):
Do you mean we're kicking the candem line.

Speaker 4 (01:08:40):
Cody gets another shot at it.

Speaker 1 (01:08:42):
Okay, who do you think is interfering the Rock? You
think the Rocks in to help Sena, Yes, awesome, I
think the Rocks interfering to help Cody. Wow, that would
be wild.

Speaker 4 (01:08:55):
So you're talking about the double pur I said double
turn you as soon as.

Speaker 1 (01:09:02):
I watched any champions saw the way that played out,
Cody working a little heel in that match against Orton,
working body parts, working his back, taking advantage of the
turnbuckle pad being taken off, Scena hesitating in the main event,
not using the title to hit his opponent. I just
it all seemed to me like, I don't think that

(01:09:24):
stuff happens for no.

Speaker 4 (01:09:25):
Reason, not with not with the biggest guys.

Speaker 1 (01:09:28):
Right, and then you know, we seems like Travis Scott's
not in the picture. He hasn't been around for a
long time.

Speaker 4 (01:09:35):
Somebody's Travis Scott.

Speaker 1 (01:09:39):
So somebody's gonna get involved here. The Rock did not
show up at WrestleMania, uh said. A lot of weird
ship come out of wrestling. One thing he did say was,
you know, I I you know, I felt they needed
to kind of this was their thing. But we can
always go back to the Cody turning heel thing. We
can always go back to it. I don't think The
Rock's gonna say that that for no reason. I think

(01:10:02):
this it makes sense to go back to it here.
I think it makes so much sense. Sina has to
turn babyface soon. We're past the halfway point of his retirement. Run.
You gotta end it on you know, a positive note
in terms of him being a babyface. This is the
easiest way to get there. I mean, if he gets
screwed over by the Rock instant sympathy and you have

(01:10:23):
in Cody instant heel heat for doing it, I think
it makes all the sense in the world. I hope
that it happens because I think that would be this
whole thing. You had the huge one with seeing the
turning heel, and then it hasn't been all that we
hoped it would be coming out of it. You need
something big to make it all matter and to make
it all meaningful. I think Rock helping Cody turn heel

(01:10:46):
on Sena is it, and it could be you know
it was ultimately, you know, Rock can say like, I
don't know, Sina wasn't meeting his expectations, wasn't doing what
he thought he would do. So I'm gonna give the
ball to Cody, and Cody he goes along with it
because he lost the title. He sees what it's like
to not be champion. I'm gonna sell my fucking soul
to get back to to the top. I think it's

(01:11:07):
a story that makes a lot of sense.

Speaker 4 (01:11:10):
Wow, I like, I like that better than mine.

Speaker 5 (01:11:15):
Delicious entrees to choose from. But for fantasy, I need
color to win some on Mike's Hell.

Speaker 4 (01:11:22):
Yeah, okay, that's fine. Like I said, I just I
do think this is the perfect place. Yeah, I think
the rock gets involved here. It's it's SummerSlam. I think
that it's honestly the other The only thing I could
see happening here that would throw a wrench in the
works is brock Lesner And I know it sounds weird,
like what would you do with it? I think brock

(01:11:42):
les coming in wrecking shop here would be a super
fun way to continue this.

Speaker 1 (01:11:47):
And are gonna interfere in every match?

Speaker 4 (01:11:50):
Just this this one? You said earlier.

Speaker 1 (01:11:54):
I I really don't know if we ever see brock again.
And that really unfests me.

Speaker 4 (01:12:02):
All because he just wanted some piss crazy He's what's
app dude? You know what I'm saying, like, do something,
pretend yourself. I don't see you, okay, said what do
you think you think it's gonna be a good show?
Or yes, I swear to God went just the right

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side of the column where it's a stipulations. It's everyone's
got a stipulation and a championship.

Speaker 1 (01:12:28):
I don't understand how they don't split them up.

Speaker 4 (01:12:32):
I don't know for nights, I don't know there's a
reason you have two different nights. Is it's fucking crazy.
I've never I've never seen it like this before in
my life. What the it's really crazy? All right, let's
go on to the most important part of the upcoming
schedule is a month away, and that's a w was

(01:12:54):
New Japan Pro Wrestling Forbidden Door. Actually, I'll tell you what.
I'm gonna use this platform at my time to talk
about the you want climax uh So, of course, my
guy Jimmy from Lorraine Bar in Philadelphia, go check it out,
beautiful bar uh in a beautiful area. Promise it's much
different than it used to be. It is the It's

(01:13:15):
been really fun. I've been trying to catch as many
matches like Ken each day, about three or four at
a time, no tag team matches BJ. Once you give
up on those multi person tag team matches each day,
it is so freeing. You're just like cool. I got
three matches to watch, Egg got four or whatever, so
the matches. Honestly winning more than he should as he

(01:13:37):
always does. But again, Sonata, that's the one to check out.
He seems to really be, you know, coming on as
hot Sonata baby Sanada hot, like if we can roll that. No, no,
that's me. I'm just I'm hot for Sonata, dude. Like,
as a marketing pro, I see, I see dollars when

(01:14:00):
it comes to hot Sonata. But Heroshi Hashi wrestling somebody?
When did When was that announced? I didn't put this here.
I don't. I didn't even hear that. I thought he
was tired.

Speaker 1 (01:14:14):
Look at the stack card for Forbidden Door.

Speaker 4 (01:14:16):
Hold on, hold on. I thought he retired. Mm hmm.

Speaker 1 (01:14:21):
He did his final for like that's territory.

Speaker 4 (01:14:25):
Okay, so he says, okay, so he retired. Yet he's
the Rolling Stones, Got Player coach and the tag team
match of the Hurt Syndicate Bobby Lashley and Chuting Benjamin
against we don't know yet.

Speaker 1 (01:14:37):
Do you think it's just kind of Hashy vers Socata. Yes, okay,
that's what I was thinking.

Speaker 4 (01:14:45):
Yes I do, unless they go to Omega.

Speaker 1 (01:14:49):
But yeah, but they're both baby faces.

Speaker 4 (01:14:53):
Yeah, that doesn't matter.

Speaker 1 (01:14:54):
I think makes more sense put the.

Speaker 4 (01:14:57):
Title online than i'n beat him one last time.

Speaker 5 (01:15:00):
I asked you how my boy Torriano is doing. Your response, Mike,
do you recall what his response?

Speaker 4 (01:15:07):
Yeah, he's winning when he's pretty good, win more than
should be.

Speaker 1 (01:15:09):
And and I was thinking to myself, is he even
in the g not?

Speaker 4 (01:15:14):
No, No, I haven't watched. I didn't see an.

Speaker 1 (01:15:16):
He hasn't watched any of it, is what he was about.

Speaker 4 (01:15:18):
That's not true. I started watching. I literally started watching it.

Speaker 1 (01:15:21):
This dude.

Speaker 4 (01:15:22):
Don't mind that, dude, I mean, hot's a not a dude.
I got you what you don the Trump would over here.
Why there's sad kids. There's sad kids in New Japan.
I see them starving in New Japan. And the World
Tag Team Tournament Championship Tournament Eliminated tournament thing, there's a

(01:15:44):
lot here. I'm not reading all this, but it looks good,
but I'm not reading it. Can you tell? Can you
surmise it for me? Can you put through GPT?

Speaker 1 (01:15:55):
Make us less like a thirty team tournament in the
winter faces the thirds.

Speaker 4 (01:16:00):
It's that fucking is what we talk about. It's six teams, eight,
it's eight teams.

Speaker 1 (01:16:06):
You can't even get it right.

Speaker 4 (01:16:08):
I'll just looking because like it's so hard to read
because it's so it's so poorly done on Wikipedia. Bro
Dido though, that's a good fucking tag team. That's a
good fucking tag team.

Speaker 1 (01:16:19):
So I mean it's it's gonna be f t R,
but I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:16:22):
Yeah, it's gonna be f t R unless unless Bang
Bang Gang and Juice Robinson getting that push because of
Tony Storm never counted out love us uh F t
R and I think F t R wins, and then
I think Edge and Christian take it from him.

Speaker 5 (01:16:41):
Yeah that makes more sense, Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:16:43):
I go back.

Speaker 4 (01:16:44):
Yeah, because because un like w W, a W tells
long term stories. Uh and Stephanie.

Speaker 1 (01:16:49):
Vaker story of what already happened in w.

Speaker 4 (01:16:53):
Cool Clash in Paris, it's gonna be use the w
W tag team to play guys over. First off, they
are Stampede Wrestling legends, and we said that's gonna be
Naomi correct, excuse me, Naomi versus Stephanie Vaker. Yes, there

(01:17:15):
you great stuff, Paton stuff ahead, don't know Patreon money
so far down, idiot.

Speaker 1 (01:17:30):
Yeah, they care about it. But we also do polls.

Speaker 5 (01:17:36):
And brackets and drafts, and we did the best Summer
Slam performers of all time, the best Summer Slam matches
of all time. So you guys want to take a
guess on who came in first for each one.

Speaker 4 (01:17:51):
Uh Summer Slam performers, I'll say me.

Speaker 1 (01:17:55):
Uh beg for both for the extra vote, that is correct, but.

Speaker 5 (01:18:01):
No, that was correct for the matches performers.

Speaker 1 (01:18:05):
Donnie one, let's go.

Speaker 4 (01:18:09):
I don't go on there. That's a depth trap over there.

Speaker 1 (01:18:13):
That's why the monkeys down.

Speaker 4 (01:18:15):
Yeah, because I like, I don't know what happens.

Speaker 1 (01:18:18):
But under no circumstances should Donnie ever get a vote
for these because he puts random dumb ship into his list.

Speaker 5 (01:18:24):
Speaking of says, Donnie, you know, I try my best
support you, but not when you take a strolle match
when there are hundreds of better ones. I've literally fallen
asleep watching a strolle match. And Corey Linky says, no
pity vote for m TI this month.

Speaker 1 (01:18:38):
He earned it with a great catalog of matches.

Speaker 4 (01:18:41):
Let's go what a loser.

Speaker 5 (01:18:46):
Momo had the only comment for our best Summer Slam
Performers list.

Speaker 1 (01:18:50):
He just says, yum yum sauce.

Speaker 4 (01:18:53):
Yum yum sauce. Dude, don't understand the reference, nor do
I care.

Speaker 1 (01:18:57):
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Speaker 4 (01:19:09):
Can I tell you something a term that's going around
the internet right now that I've seen a few times,
bro bro fell off. Well, I'm on the internet all
day for my work, but it's profell. It's new to me. Okay,
Can I say something to you? Pro fell off is
what I think when I think a ring rest radio.

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That's the first thing I thought of. It was like,
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Speaker 1 (01:19:33):
It's like, can't fall off if you're never on top?

Speaker 4 (01:19:35):
Yeah, well we fell off our telephone book, so yeah,
we weren't up very high, but we still fell off.
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we make jokes, you know.

Speaker 8 (01:19:51):
What I mean.

Speaker 4 (01:19:51):
We're you know, we self deprecate here. It's fine, right,
We are good people. We give you great content every
single fucking week. We do it all the time, and
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They've given us enough money to keep this dumb ship
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Andrew Skins, we know, not long per him fucking defending. No,
we do because.

Speaker 1 (01:20:30):
He's being like modest about what he's got going on.
And that's like.

Speaker 4 (01:20:38):
He's smaller than he's smaller than Rowlins, and he thinks
he's average. And if Rolins is an average and he's
not average, it's a fucking proxy thing, you know that.
George Sparrow's but he's he wields it. Well. I see
him in those cack he's bulging up, George Sparrows. He's,
by the way, Andrew skein S does golf. So if
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there there you go, thank you. I was friend to god.
I had no idea George Sparrows, who out kicked his coverage.
Very nice man, Jim del Chappo, who I heard, but
another den.

Speaker 1 (01:21:17):
Yeah, why why does he like the third?

Speaker 4 (01:21:19):
Then? A third den for his yacht, for his yacht.
There's a dead on the Alex Pandolfi another long time friend.
It doesn't come on Colin dds me? What's that? What
is his name? Des me? Uh, Donny sucks.

Speaker 1 (01:21:44):
That's a mean.

Speaker 4 (01:21:48):
Paid me to say? Is it was it? Reggie does that?

Speaker 8 (01:21:50):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:21:51):
Wow, that's Reggie. That piece of shoe rooted for Hogan's death?
Can Kevin coreole momo the real look at the real
creole now Vican hell Yeah, yeah, it's a whole bunch

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of delays, vicing, k down, belagre very long in the front.
I wonder if he even knows he's supporting us any longer.

Speaker 1 (01:22:19):
I think he does him on Twitter in a long
time to have a lot of a lot of out there.

Speaker 4 (01:22:25):
I love Vic and he's he's a honestly. I remember
the first time I met me, walked up with a
little envelope with cash and give just a thank you,
And no he did I don't think he did.

Speaker 1 (01:22:36):
No other people video games and be distributed amongst us.
Never was ray Aria moral.

Speaker 4 (01:22:49):
It's comic. I have a coll I will definitely have
a complicated legacy.

Speaker 1 (01:22:55):
I disagree, p J.

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Speaker 1 (01:23:11):
Is like the Naked Gun. Yeah, we did that.

Speaker 5 (01:23:13):
In advance of the new movie that Cody Rose is in.

Speaker 1 (01:23:16):
I got a three pair of promotional naked gun sunglasses
at the NASCAR race over the weekend. It's fun you
this weekend I did. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:23:25):
So you went to Indy, Yeah, Indy first time.

Speaker 1 (01:23:28):
Yeah, I told you I was out of town.

Speaker 4 (01:23:33):
You didn't tell me anything. I didn't care one bit,
but I'm glad that you went. Will you go to
your dad and your uncle.

Speaker 1 (01:23:38):
It's very fun, big bus trip, fifty people, that's awesome.
Best thing I ate. I don't know. We we did
like a tailgate so foods kind of sucks. Yeah, like
we went. We literally okay, you'll like this. The so

(01:23:59):
we get back from the race to the hotel area.
It's it's late on a Sunday. Gotta go somewhere that's open.
Buffalo Wild Wings there.

Speaker 4 (01:24:09):
Should have called Andrew Skinner. He was saying to be like,
I have about a billion fucking points you could hand yeah,
fucking fifty fifty deep and you would pay for everybody's food.
We still got two thousand.

Speaker 1 (01:24:20):
Tell him I was at beat up.

Speaker 4 (01:24:22):
I don't go there now because I thin down now.
I'm a friendly kind of guy.

Speaker 1 (01:24:27):
It's not horrible. But if you you're it's not like
great hip.

Speaker 4 (01:24:32):
The Buffalo people going to Buffalo Wild Wings is gotta
be like sacrilegious. That's like me going to but that's
like me going to a fucking outside of this area.
Be like this, says Philly Cheese Steaks right here.

Speaker 1 (01:24:42):
Our options were very limited.

Speaker 4 (01:24:44):
Yeah, stick with all right, guys, let's move alone. I
don't know, but it's very cool. You went to NASCAR.
That's very cool. Yeah, bad winner.

Speaker 1 (01:25:05):
I disagree, And I know why you think that way.
And a lot of people thought that way. My dad
was wearing a bubble wall of shirt and hat and
fucking celebrating to get people mad.

Speaker 4 (01:25:14):
I'll tell you what you I'm surprised. Well, it's it's Indianapolis.
They're very kind. You do do you do that ship
in nah Talladega? You will not walk out in one piece?

Speaker 1 (01:25:26):
Oh well, what happened to dad?

Speaker 4 (01:25:29):
Oh yeah, some southern man push him in the mouth
for saying Wallace one.

Speaker 1 (01:25:34):
Did he win?

Speaker 4 (01:25:35):
He sure did. He was just stay in the fact.

Speaker 8 (01:25:37):
Good.

Speaker 5 (01:25:39):
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Speaker 5 (01:25:49):
Current era Fantasy Draft supercard. We had the best championship
design ever bracket. You can hear that all right now.
But you can also sign up for next week's bracket,
taking place to day, August fifth, six pm Eastern. That's
next week we're going to determine the best sports video
game of all time NFL that hell yeah. Next month

(01:26:12):
we're doing the best Pokemon of all time.

Speaker 1 (01:26:14):
Oh god, I'm putting this in your mind right now.
One right, well, no, I don't think it has to
be okay, so put in my mind. But Mango McMichael mclafflin,
he hit me on the side and he begged for
Tyranna tar to be on the bracket.

Speaker 4 (01:26:35):
I can't say that anymore, dude. You can't call him
a Tyranna Tar. Well.

Speaker 5 (01:26:47):
There's one more thing this month, August twenty seven. It's
the annual Fantasy Football Draft. That is right, The Fantasy
Football Draft League is coming back. The draft is taking
place Wednesday, in actual money. Hell Yeah, August twenty seventh,

(01:27:09):
nine pm Eastern. It's a Wednesday. We are going to record.
Oh I think I put in the Patreon post on Skype,
our ip Skype. We're working on Discord. Yeah, Discord.

Speaker 1 (01:27:19):
People are gonna be waiting on Skype.

Speaker 5 (01:27:21):
Yeah, and we will put the exclusive audio on Patreon
dot com Slash ring Wrest Radio.

Speaker 4 (01:27:27):
And we know ahead of time it will be exclusive
because of previous editions. I tend to get fucked up
a pick Eagles and then it's you know, it gets wild.
Can you do or just it's a really good I
tell you what, it's a really good time. Never had
a band fantasy football draft party in my life. They're
always fun, even when they're bad, they're fun.

Speaker 1 (01:27:47):
It's the best part of fantasy football.

Speaker 4 (01:27:48):
Oh yeah, it's it's honestly, and as you get older,
it's one of those things it's like you're just looking
for reasons for the boys to get together or girls
whatever I'm saying, but just like people to get together,
friends to get together, and uh, that's such a good reason.
That's such a good time. So yeah, please come out.
It's a really good time. We're and and you win
actual money if you win, that's the win. We're winner

(01:28:09):
take all here.

Speaker 1 (01:28:11):
If you win.

Speaker 4 (01:28:11):
If you win, you won't because we've won, have we?
I don't think Listen, I've been I remember being pissed
every time.

Speaker 1 (01:28:18):
We got to pay it one.

Speaker 5 (01:28:21):
Right, you're the only one because you fucking blow you
haul the team down.

Speaker 1 (01:28:26):
No, let's move on. Get the fuck out of here.
Actually you hold this team down.

Speaker 4 (01:28:31):
Well, actually you got You also got to get the
fuck out of here, Paul Haymen.

Speaker 1 (01:28:34):
So I want to start by asking me about w
W two K twenty five. It's officially coming to the
Nintendo switch to uh so, now even more WW fans
and gamers can enjoy it, they can do it on
the go. What do you think it says about this
game and maybe WW as a whole right now, that
w W two K twenty five is still the forefront
of the discussion in the gaming world months after its release.

Speaker 3 (01:28:56):
At this point, I think that there's two reasons for
that number. One, as you know, it's the highest rated
game in franchise history, and rightfully so. And that ties
into the second point, which is I hosted the game
and besides being on the cover with Roman Reigns and

(01:29:16):
elevating Roman range star power on.

Speaker 8 (01:29:19):
The cover of the game.

Speaker 3 (01:29:20):
Just the fact that I hosted the entire game, which
has never been done before, which led to the greatest
reviews in franchise history, if not in all video game history.
I think it says a lot about Paul Hayman's contributions
to this game as to the longevity of the game
and why months after its release it's still a headline

(01:29:44):
grabbing video game, especially now that it's moving on to
Nintendo Switch.

Speaker 1 (01:29:49):
I cannot disagree with that one of the biggest draws.

Speaker 8 (01:29:52):
Why would you disagree?

Speaker 1 (01:29:54):
I never would you mind the.

Speaker 8 (01:29:55):
Person would disagree. I'm a wise man, I'm an oracle,
I'm an advocate, I'm a special council.

Speaker 1 (01:30:03):
Ever disagreed with me, I certainly wouldn't. You're an idol
of mine. So I one hundred percent agree. One of
the biggest draws of the two K twenty five. As
you mentioned, the showcase mode focused on the bloodline. Obviously,
you've parted ways with Roman Reigns since the game was released,
but what does it mean to you to have played
a pivotal role in some of the successes of the

(01:30:25):
Anaye family and to have that immortalized in the to
be two K twenty five.

Speaker 3 (01:30:34):
And would suggest that this video game accurately captures the
relationship between the tribal chief, Roman Reigns and his wise
man Paul Hayman.

Speaker 8 (01:30:44):
When the relationship was at its height.

Speaker 3 (01:30:47):
Even though Roman Reigns had lost the Undisputed.

Speaker 8 (01:30:50):
Championship, by the time.

Speaker 3 (01:30:52):
We did this video game, the the presentation of Roman
Reigns and his wise Man, it was still running very,
very strong. What I love about the game now is
that you're not stuck with Paul Hayman being at the

(01:31:14):
side of Roman Range. You can put seth Rollins versus
Roman Reigne. You can put Bronze and Read versus Roman Range.
You can put bron Breaker versus Roman Range. You can
even have Paul Hayman come and smash Roman Range, which
I think would be a fitting end to the relationship

(01:31:36):
as well. So that's what I really like about the game.
The most meat, just me personally, is that you're not
stuck in a certain time capsule and an encapsulation of
the moment that.

Speaker 8 (01:31:56):
It was released.

Speaker 3 (01:32:03):
Update as smashing Roman Reigns and anyone that chooses to
be around him.

Speaker 1 (01:32:10):
The bloodline Showcase mode allows gamers to relive some of
the most legendary moments in the history of the bloodline
and the Anayi family. I was wondering, is there a
favorite moment that stands out to you with regards to
the Anayi family, whether you were involved or not.

Speaker 3 (01:32:31):
Roman Reigns stacking Edgent daniel'brian in the main event of WrestleMania,
which was the most declaratively definitive finish in the history
of a main event of WrestleMania.

Speaker 8 (01:32:50):
It was the first show that.

Speaker 3 (01:32:53):
Ww was be put on in front of a live
crowd after the pandemic, so there was so many emotions
going into that show. Uh it almost got rained out,
which you know, just would have.

Speaker 8 (01:33:12):
Been a catastrophe.

Speaker 3 (01:33:14):
And yet the rain subsided, the clouds cleared, the heavens
opened up for the main event, which was Roman Reigns
versus Edge versus daniel'brian, And no one thought that they
would see such a shocking ending to WrestleMania as the

(01:33:37):
villainous tribal chief stacks his two top rated former world
champion opponents on top of each other. And moment, I
think in my heart, I knew, Wow, what a what
a fitting conclusion to this WrestleMania and but a moment

(01:34:01):
coming out of the pandemic to stamp Roman Reigns as
the Thhee Capitals and Bold the start in this industry
for this generation.

Speaker 1 (01:34:16):
You shocked the wrestling world, the wrestling UNI forty one
when you chose to align yourself with Seth Rollins rather
than Roman Reigns and Cmpunk. Given the enormous success you
had alongside Roman and Punk in the past, what factors
do you think made it the right decision for you
to try something new and to begin working with Seth.

Speaker 3 (01:34:36):
Well, it's not just working with Seth, it's also working
with bron Breaker and Bronze agreed. So if you look
at a trajectory for the future of this entire industry,
it's Seth Rollins time and Seth Rollins. As a lawyer
would say, Seth Rollins made the case. Cm Punk declares

(01:34:59):
himself to be my my best friend and put me
in a situation that guarantee would sabotage my relationship with
my tribal chief, Roman Reigns.

Speaker 8 (01:35:11):
And then there's my tribal chief, Roman.

Speaker 3 (01:35:13):
Reigns, whose side I stood by through Thick and Thin,
who wouldn't accept the fact that I was going to
simply enable my best friend in the world to live
out his childhood dream of main eventing WrestleMania. So I

(01:35:35):
think Roman Reigns and Cmpunk both put themselves in position
to be abandoned by their wise man, and Seth Rollins
made the case of being the most appreciative superstar in
WWE history, And along with that it enabled.

Speaker 8 (01:35:56):
Me to recruit bron Breaker, who.

Speaker 3 (01:36:00):
His name I mentioned during my Hall of Fame speech
a year earlier, as the next big star, if not
to quote my.

Speaker 8 (01:36:08):
Time with brock Lesner, the next big thing in his
entire industry.

Speaker 3 (01:36:13):
And then you have the addition to Bronson Reid, who
was an underutilized and underappreciated monster on the roster, and
you put us all together, I mean, I dare say
it eclipses the bloodline.

Speaker 1 (01:36:30):
Well, Seth Rollins injured his knee Saturday Night's main event.
There's a great deal of uncertainty regarding his potential timeline
to return right now. For as long as he's out,
how big of an adverse effect do you think that
has on the WW product? And how do you in
WW as a whole go about compensating for that.

Speaker 8 (01:36:50):
I don't think there's anything to compensate for.

Speaker 3 (01:36:52):
I would actually suggest that this adds a level of
intrigue to WWE, because there is nothing, at least to
me as exciting as anticipation. And the anticipation now is
the clock is ticking and the race is on.

Speaker 8 (01:37:12):
Because Seth Rollins has until.

Speaker 3 (01:37:14):
Next June to cash in the money in the bank contract.
That's a long time to go and absolutely one hundred
percent confident to the point where I can say it's
not just a prediction, it's a spoiler. I would even
go as far now that I'm an oracle to say

(01:37:35):
it's not just a prediction or a spoiler, it's a
prophecy that Seth Rollins will be back by next June,
no matter what if if his leg fell off, He'll
be back by next June and to cash in the
money in the bank contract. So I'm not worried about it.
I'm just enjoying the anticipation of when he can come back,

(01:38:00):
and when he does, it will completely change the dynamic
of WWE, Ross, SmackDown, nxt LFG, it doesn't matter evolved,
even the entire industry will change when Seth Rollins comes back,
and even if it's on deadline next June, it will still.

Speaker 8 (01:38:25):
Be a.

Speaker 3 (01:38:28):
Complete shift of focus of the entire industry, because that's
what Seth Rollins trajectory is.

Speaker 1 (01:38:37):
This past morning, Anne Raw, there was a very clear
focus on bron Breaker and his role as a future
world champion, a future WrestleMania main inventor. I think everyone
recognizes his potential to be an all time great, But
for you, what characteristics do you feel set them apart
from maybe some of the legends that you've worked with
over the years.

Speaker 3 (01:39:02):
It's not that it sets bron Breaker apart from them,
it's that bron Breaker can elevate himself to that rarefied air.
I worked with Mark Callaway before he was the Undertaker
and always knew he was going to be a top

(01:39:23):
star with great longevity. I worked with Steve Austin before
he was stone Cold. I worked with Brock Lesner when
he was the next big thing, and then the next
big thing had arrived and conquered the Undertakers undefeated streak
and was a multi time.

Speaker 8 (01:39:37):
Champion and a ufcavyweight champion.

Speaker 3 (01:39:39):
Worked with the seam Punk in the midst of his
four hundred and thirty four days as WWE champion, the
five years that Roman Reins and I worked together on camera,
let alone, all the time that we worked with each
other behind the scenes. These are very rare athletes. These
are very rare performers, and the thousands of other performers

(01:40:05):
in the industry can't breathe that rarefy era that these
gentlemen get a chance to enjoy because they are that
uniquely and talented. Bron Breaker is in that group. Now
it's up to broad and Breaker to separate himself from

(01:40:26):
that group to take the industry even higher, to accomplish
more than they have.

Speaker 8 (01:40:33):
To draw more.

Speaker 3 (01:40:36):
Revenue, drive the stock higher, bring more viewers over to Netflix,
sell more video games and other related.

Speaker 8 (01:40:46):
Merchandise and licenses.

Speaker 3 (01:40:48):
And if bron Breaker can do that, and I have
every reason.

Speaker 8 (01:40:51):
To believe that he can and that he will.

Speaker 3 (01:40:55):
You're looking at the man that's going to main event
multi WrestleMania is cast Wrestle.

Speaker 8 (01:41:01):
Lady of fifteen.

Speaker 3 (01:41:03):
He is exactly where Roman Rains was when the Shield debuted.

Speaker 8 (01:41:09):
He is looked at by the audience as the muscle
of the group.

Speaker 3 (01:41:16):
When the fact that the matter is bron Breaker is
the biggest star in this industry.

Speaker 8 (01:41:23):
The industry just hasn't figured that out yet.

Speaker 1 (01:41:27):
I'll see one more question here. Roman Rains made his
long way to return to on Monday Night's episode of Raw,
had a conversation with bron Breaker. Kind of feels like
an inevitability that we're going to get a match or
a rivalry with those two at some point, whether it's
SummerSlam further down the line. As a wrestling historian, is

(01:41:47):
there anything you can compare that potential rivalry to and
can you articulate how big you think it might be
for ww and the wrestling business as a whole when
it does happen.

Speaker 3 (01:42:01):
I think Roman Range versus bron Breaker will set box
office records around the world. I think Roman Range versus
Bronson Reed will set box office records around the world.
I think Roman Rains versus Seth Rollins when Seth Rollins
comes back from his leg injury, will set box office
records around the world. It's just who's going to be

(01:42:22):
up first and Roman Reign Who can Roman Reigns survive
that match if he does, and then it's you know,
if bron Breaker is first, will Roman Reigne survive that
to actually have a match with Bronson Reed, I think
that I'd rather look back on it than look forward

(01:42:46):
to it, because looking forward to it, I already see it,
because that's when an oracle does. I think if you
look back on this in the future, you will see
that Roman Reigns versus bron Breaker is a his historic
match because bron Breaker teaches Roman Reigns how to deliver

(01:43:06):
a proper spear.

Speaker 1 (01:43:09):
Okay, there you have it, mister human. Thank you so
much for taking the time. I appreciate it, and I
wish you all the best moving forward.

Speaker 8 (01:43:18):
Pleasure is all mine.

Speaker 1 (01:43:19):
Thank you, sir, Thank you so much.

Speaker 7 (01:43:23):
Strange in the latest report, you gotta call dirt sheet Buster,
my precious nasty sours.

Speaker 4 (01:43:33):
You gotta call dirt shop buster stoko, no.

Speaker 7 (01:43:41):
Lies, no retracious.

Speaker 1 (01:43:47):
Purpose source. That's interesting to do. For our favorite segment
of the week, it's dirty Busters. That's why it's a
segment where Donaldwood goes and cries in the corner, probably
goes into his fucking garage, probably falls down the stairs,

(01:44:07):
and me and BG we hang out and we talk
about the third sheets and why they suck, just like
somebody else we know, Okay, I think you'd never come back.
I agree if people knew, if people knew behind the
scenes what we had to deal with, it's a lot
like what we deal with face to face with third

(01:44:27):
sheets every single week. It's constant lies and deception. But
we see right through the bullshit, and that's what this
segment is all about and always has been. Hell yeah,
we're gonna start with one from Flight for Select. WW
didn't plan to pay tribute to Hull cocaon on SmackDown
until after he died. Do you think that's true.

Speaker 5 (01:44:47):
I definitely think that's true, Mike, Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:44:50):
They weren't making pre death plans to do a tribute.
They weren't pulling melts, no, okay. Hull Cogan's passing caused
major changes to the July twenty fifth edition a Friday
Night SmackDown, but the show beginning with a tribute to
the w Hall of Famer, including a ten bell salute
with the SmackDown roster on the stage, along with the
likes of Jimmy Hart, Ted Dibiasi, Jim Dug and Brian
Blair startin Slaughter and Gerald Brisco Fightful. Select noted that

(01:45:13):
the majority of SmackDown was shifted following hall Cogan's passing,
and a lot of content was produced to air during SmackDown.
Travel was also arranged to bring in towns for the event,
but not everyone they wanted to be at SmackDown was
able to make it. Yeah, I totally believe that the
original SmackDown didn't account for hal Coogan dying and having
a ten bell salut and video packages throughout the night

(01:45:36):
and flying in people who were close to Halgogan. I
definitely believe that to be true. Now, the issue here
is do you feel like you need to report that? Hm, Well,
you gotta prove some worth to yourself. I guess that
doesn't that proves worth to himself. Yeah. If I if

(01:45:59):
I had to or to that, I would say to myself,
maybe I don't got enough here to be charging people
money for this bullshit. That's what I would say. I
would self reflect. But I'm different. I guess did they
make you pay for that? Probably? Wow, that's terrible. That's
the one. Assessors from bodyslam dot net w is happy

(01:46:23):
about having a wrestler who is good. What do you
think about that? I think that's true. I think that's true, Yeah,
me too. According to Body Slam, WW officials have been
and I quote very impressed with Trick Williams work in
NXT and TNA Wrestling. W have long been high on
thirty one year old, to the point that influential people
within the company believe he had the potential to be

(01:46:44):
a future main WrestleMania main e enter. As of early
twenty twenty four. Very impressed for early put the most
some of the most charisma in the company. Absolutely hell yeah,
very impressed with the guy who they trusted to go
in another company's major title and multiple.

Speaker 5 (01:47:01):
TV shows a week Yeah, absolutely very Carmelo for the championship.

Speaker 1 (01:47:06):
That's the many weekend. And you know, I thought they
I thought that they thought he fucking sucked, But that's crazy.
You know what, if they did think he fucking sucked,
then that would be an interesting report to me because
they're giving him all the stuff, but they think he
fucking sucks. So I would care about your report. But
you're telling me that the guy who has won the

(01:47:26):
NXT Championship and the TNA Championship and has always featured
very heavily on these shows, they like him. I don't
need to tell me that I can figure that one out.

Speaker 5 (01:47:34):
He's been the face of NXT like over years. Yeah,
at this point almost like even though all the fans
champions like, Trick is the face of NXT.

Speaker 1 (01:47:46):
Right, he's the featured guy of course. Yep. And I
so that tells me they like him. Uh, next toss observe.

Speaker 5 (01:47:54):
But now you know they like that's the difference you thought,
But now you know.

Speaker 1 (01:47:58):
I don't think I thought it. I think I knew it. Uh.
This ex was from wrestlings of her newsletter gets worse. Uh.
Here are three stars who w W views as stars
Okay Cordons, Dave Belts with the russ her newsletter. W

(01:48:18):
w's plan is to focus in and around the likes
of Rihea Ripley, Jacob Fattu and broad Breaker is the
next face of a w W WOW, eventually taking those
spots at the top of the card for good.

Speaker 8 (01:48:30):
Wait.

Speaker 1 (01:48:30):
Ria Ripley's taking the spot at the top of the card.

Speaker 5 (01:48:34):
I guess she hasn't been the top of the car
for like three years.

Speaker 1 (01:48:37):
I would I would say, Ree Ripley is not the
next face of w W. She's already I mean, she's
maybe certainly in the conversation, the most popular fucking woman,
the wrestler of all time, with the pops that she
gets every single time she comes out, and we're but
but she's the next not yet. And then bron Breaker,

(01:49:01):
I think we knew that from I don't know the
day debut in n XT they said, think they coordinate
him with the loss.

Speaker 4 (01:49:10):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:49:11):
And then Jacob Fattu. I think as soon as he
got huge directions when he debuted, I think we all
immediately said, this guy is gonna be huge. Mm, Like,
we don't need to be told these things. That was
a mouth special right there. It's unbelievable. This is really this.
A lot of this week's is talla the stuff that
we don't need to be told because we can figure

(01:49:32):
it out.

Speaker 4 (01:49:34):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:49:35):
This that's was for bodyslam dot net, speaking of here's
a future WrestleMania main event for our eyes, hearts, and minds,
all of them working in synchronicity. Corn to Body Slam
dot v internally considers a clash between bron Breaker and
Roman Reigns if be a potential future WrestleMania main event.

(01:49:55):
There's there's no timeline which WrestleMania could host Roman Rains
with bron Breaker, but the match is not w of
his radar. You see, if he could have told me
which WrestleMania, then then it would have been a worthwhile report.
But they couldn't even give us that.

Speaker 5 (01:50:09):
Oh my god, dude couldn't even.

Speaker 1 (01:50:12):
Give us that bron Breaker was Roman Reigns. So Roman
Rains the biggest fucking star in the company and one
of the biggest stars of all time. Bron Breaker. The
dude is clearly being built up to be the top
star in the very near future. Who fucking took out
Roman Reigns a few months ago, who was directly feuding
with him the entire year, and they both do fucking

(01:50:33):
spears to each other. Mm hmm. That's gonna be WrestleMania
made about one day. Thanks for letting me know, Mike.
I have an important question, yep.

Speaker 5 (01:50:40):
Do you know if this was quote unquote reported before
or after Meltz's.

Speaker 1 (01:50:46):
Report that they view him as a future star.

Speaker 5 (01:50:50):
I'm not sure on that one, but I feel like
this is piggybacking off Melts where they're gonna be like, Oh,
Melts is saying that I'm.

Speaker 1 (01:50:57):
Gonna go dig a little deeper. I might be able
to kind of check that. Uh, it's all right. I
just think it's fucking hilarious that they're back to back
of Okay, so July nineteenth was the Ria and Jacob
and bron one. Yep, July twenty fifth. There you go.
Took them almost a week. Dude, Melts said, bron Breaker

(01:51:20):
is a star. Let's make this one up smart.

Speaker 5 (01:51:25):
I think when people saw bron Breaker they thought he
could be a future main eventor with ro Marines.

Speaker 1 (01:51:30):
I yeah, I probably one of the first thoughts that
popped into my head when I saw right, like, come on,
uh are you red for the honorary dirty buster of
the week? Always? I love it. It is Netflix. Oh
I think you know a little bit about this, Beji,
but for refresh your memory for people who don't know,

(01:51:50):
Melts two months ago on Wrestling Observer Radio says this, okay,
Netflix is probably better student for a giant event one
a month and a weekly TV show of pro wrestling.
That's just reality. The platform. That's reality. Don't question it's reality.
The platform isn't built for appointment based viewing. It's built

(01:52:13):
for binge watching or casual dropping. That's not how wrestling
fans operate, or at least not how they rain for
thirty years. They thought raw would be a major play
to bring in a consistent weekly audience. But it's not
working like that.

Speaker 6 (01:52:29):
If WW stays cold and the show doesn't gain traction,
what the hell Netflix has a clause to exit after
five years.

Speaker 1 (01:52:40):
This whole thing could go very differently than imagine. Wow,
that is very damning. The numbers must be absolutely abysmal
WW and Netflix sponsorship must be failing. The sky is falling,
and within the next five years, that's it. That's all.

(01:53:00):
That's according to melts.

Speaker 5 (01:53:01):
Okay, kind say where you gets like the punchline of
all this, Sure, I would probably adventurely the guest that
w W would be thrilled to get out of a
deal in five years because they could probably make more
money on the next deal considering how non cold they are.

Speaker 1 (01:53:16):
That's a great point. So so let's look at it
like Let's say in baseball, let's say Juan Soto the
deal he signed with the Mets. Let's say he had
a player option after five years out. Let's say had
a player option. He's already got one of the biggest
contracts of all time. Let's say he puts up huge
numbers the next five years, Yeah, he's still going to
be in his prime by that point. He has a

(01:53:37):
player option to opt out.

Speaker 10 (01:53:40):
Yeah, I think he probably would like to opt out
because he could get an even bigger deal, you know,
because salaries are just going to keep increasing, and if
he continues at his current pace, Yep, he could get
that type of money.

Speaker 1 (01:53:52):
Same thing with w if WW continues to put up
great melts. According to him, are terrible numbers, but in reality,
that's where we live. Great numbers. Then yeah, I'm sure
they would love to have the opportunity to negotiate because then, oh,
they can always go back to Netflix, or they could
just go to the highs. Bitter kind of how business works. Okay,

(01:54:16):
Molt says all that. Last week an article I'm voliable, uh.
Netflix vice president of Sports Gabe Spitzer told Variety, it's
everything we could have hoped for and more more, And
you don't think it's all that it could be when
it's all that it should be. And we knew going

(01:54:39):
in that we're not going to change w It was
more how can we add to it in small ways?
And that's what we've seen so far. Ww's distribution has
been pretty fragmented up to this point, and the hope was,
let's combine the power of what you guys do with
the power of what we do with our global distribution
and get our marketing teams together and try to lift this. Okay,
so you know what, let's take it. Let's just take

(01:54:59):
it with a grain of salt. Okay, you know he
works for Netflix. He's not gonna con say, oh, the
partner just fucking blows it's a failure. No, they wouldn't
do that. You know, maybe there's some facts or figures
that we could go off of to make an informed decision. Okay, Yeah,
let me ask your question, Mike, mm hmm. Before January sixth,

(01:55:20):
twenty twenty five, yep, did you have Netflix? I did, Okay,
but I'm sure a lot of wrestling fans may not
have and got it specifically to watch Raw. Yep. Uh
Raw has ranked in Netflix's top ten globally since the
show premiered on January sixth, and the series has averaged

(01:55:43):
between three million and four million views for much of
the past several months. Okay, I'm not going to pretend
to know what the internal numbers are for every show
or you know, the metrics and stuff like that. But
I would venture to guess there's probably not many things
on Netflix that have been top ten globally for seven

(01:56:05):
months consecutively. Do you think maybe Netflix is kind of
happy with that. I think they're happy. I would be
pretty happy with that. Doing three million and four million
views every episode for a weekly episode, it's fucking great.
It sounds pretty good.

Speaker 5 (01:56:22):
I mean, you you have a platform that people have
to subscribe to every single month or to watch this
one show because it's weekly.

Speaker 1 (01:56:33):
Anyone will want that, Like there is never a week
where it's off. Every week you have to watch it.
And that's a higher amount of views than Raw was
getting on USA Network for the past few years for sure.
So I mean seems to me like all parties involved
would be very happy with that. It seems to me
like Melts talking out of his ass again.

Speaker 5 (01:56:55):
Yeah, it's also an important thing for Netflix, just like
how to handle and promote live because it is new
to that and more right like they did. I mean,
the j Paul Mike Tyson fight was a meme essentially
because it it didn't.

Speaker 1 (01:57:14):
Work for a lot of people. So many people were tuning.

Speaker 5 (01:57:16):
In which obviously was like thirty times the amount of
people that are watching RAW, I get it, but that
also was a necessary step to then get to w
which is a weekly live show. Like doing live and
doing just you know, putting something up on your server's
totally different, so it's necessary.

Speaker 1 (01:57:32):
And then they just had.

Speaker 5 (01:57:35):
I believe it was the Katie Taylor fight that was
on Netflix yep, and I watched that. I didn't have
a single issue, no buffering like what happened with the
j Palm Mike Tyson fight. And so that's all important
when you're building your platform. As they're getting into now
live sports.

Speaker 1 (01:57:53):
And like, I think the first thing they ever did
live was it's a show how they were watched. I
think it's called Love is Blind, and they did live finale.
It was a disaster. It was an absolute disaster. It
started way late and there were technical difficulties. You know,
they started to get into the NFL a little bit,
and they've been having a couple of games and like, yeah,

(01:58:14):
this is uh, I mean, live streaming, that's how they
get to the next level. They were already huge, but
this is how they get to the next level. And
WW is a huge part of that, and ww RAW
on Netflix by any metric that we just gave you
has been a success. So it's it's just it's disgusting

(01:58:34):
that Melts portrays himself as an unbiased journalist or just
a journalist at all. At this point. He has a vendetta.
He has, you know, he has a bias, a clear
and obvious bias, and he'll argue against it till he's
boom in the face. But anybody who looks at it
can realize that he'll say that AW is getting five

(01:58:55):
hundred k streams with no evidence whatsoever, and then on
the other side of his mouth to say, w W
raw on Netflix has been a failure, with three to
four million views per episode, top ten globally for seven
seven months.

Speaker 5 (01:59:08):
Yeah, Melts would say that Aw's ratings on t N
T and TBS are great, but W's ratings on USA Network.

Speaker 1 (01:59:18):
And in the ratings on t N T N t
BS are like five hundred whatever K for Dynamite and
three hundred k for Collision or Less. Yeah, that's his
fucking moron. He's moron. But he's also calculated in the
sense that he's he's trying to appeal to his fucking

(01:59:40):
mark audience.

Speaker 5 (01:59:42):
Except that when he says, oh I'm unbiased, I don't
care who does well and shut the fuck up.

Speaker 1 (01:59:46):
Oh right, he's a fucking liyer Esthetic. You're ready for
the Cudi gra Welcome to ta uh this Cudi Gras.
It's from russums Are and Fightful Select. Charlotte and Alexa
were originally supposed to face each other at SummerSlam. Another wise, Yeah,

(02:00:14):
I have a lot to say about this cordon a
report by Fightful Select. Despite circulating rumors, there were never
any plans in place for Charlotte Flair to face off
against Alexa Bliss at the Sunderslam Premium live event. This
comes after Dave Meltzer claimed on wrestlings Or Radio that
the original plan for Sunmerslam was for Charlotte Flair and
Alexabis to face each other in a match. However, since
their tag team had been working well togetherw chose not

(02:00:36):
to rush the split. Meltzer claimed the situation was similar
to the storyline between Randy Orton and Matt Riddle, which
was originally meant to be a short short term but
ended up lasting nearly a year. While it was unclear
how long Charlotte and Alexa's partnership would last. The initial
idea had been for a brief alliance followed by a
quick feud.

Speaker 5 (02:00:55):
Well according to anyone with eyes and knowing of anything
with wrestling, ever, I have a lot to say about
this month. Okay, as recently as hours before Raw last night,
when they say it's going to be Bronson Reid against
Jay Uso. Yes, Mels is out here saying this was

(02:01:19):
supposed to be a Summer Slam match, right, absolutely going
with Bron Breaker and Rome.

Speaker 1 (02:01:24):
This was supposed to be a Summer.

Speaker 5 (02:01:25):
Slam match, sure, and why are we getting a tag
team match? Which was clearly the fucking plan as soon
as Roman returned.

Speaker 1 (02:01:31):
So let's really look at what happened when Roman returned. Okay, asked, beat,
Jay makes the same save, Roman makes the save, Roman
helps up Jay Uso, and we going into that, we said, okay,
maybe Roman verus Broun. Then we see that happen, and
being reasonable people, we say, okay, they're clearly going Ron

(02:01:53):
and Jay and it's I'm sorry, Roman and Jay in
a tag team against Bron and Bronson, right, And really
that was always the plan, really clearly the fucking plan.
Like like give me a break, So stop saying all
this original like, oh, this was supposed to be this
and that. Shut the fuck up. You were wrong. That's
not what the plan is or was the Planets Taxing match.

(02:02:15):
Just look at this storyline Alexa and Charlotte. For weeks,
they were doing little backstage segments building up kind of
discussing the history between them and how Charlotte was one
of the few people that were welcome, welcoming to Alexa
and NXT and you know, Charlotte lost her way to
Alexa's trying to help her find her way, and you know,
maybe if they team up they can get there. Charlotte's resistant.

(02:02:36):
They ultimately decide, okay, let's see where this goes. They
have the tag, the title match, the evolution. Charlotte saves
Alexa from getting speared. So Charlotte, you know, they have
this We're not friend shirt. It's you know, a nice
little you know, it's a cute little thing, and you
can see people maybe want a shirt like that.

Speaker 4 (02:02:52):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (02:02:53):
And then she pulls her away from the spear and
shows that Charlotte actually maybe does have some feelings of
friendship towards Alexa. This has been built thing for a
tag team run. Will eventually they fucking break up and
have a feud, probably because it's pro wrestling, but it
would have no impact if you did that now because
they they haven't really done that much in terms of

(02:03:15):
on screen stuff before this, right, Maybe they were friends
behind the scenes in the history, behind the scenes, that
wasn't something that you were seeing on the screen though,
And now they're giving it to you on the screen,
and it's gonna mean something when they ultimately face each other.
But right now, but they're both hugely over individually, so
of course they're gonna be hugely over as a team.
Makes all the sense of the world for this to

(02:03:35):
be a tag team thing, for them to win the titles,
whether it's at Summer Slam or after, and for them
to move forward and have their thing before that way
down the road breaking up and having a feud like
this was never gonna be a one on one match,
And we said that as soon as we saw that
report from Melts. Absolutely he sucks, he fucking blows pathetic,

(02:03:59):
all right, PG, Yeah, I'm just mad at this point,
but I think we did. Who's never a singles match?

Speaker 4 (02:04:12):
All right?

Speaker 1 (02:04:12):
Beg, it's that time. Brother. We are in the final
week before SummerSlam, the two night extravag Anzer for the
first time ever. That means it's the final week of
w Fantasy season forty. This is a big one, the
fortieth year we've been doing this.

Speaker 5 (02:04:34):
I'm fucking nervous. I already don't gonna.

Speaker 1 (02:04:36):
Lose, BIGI. You've been on top a lot of this season.
You've been rolling. I don't know what happened. I don't
know what got into you. I'm gonna lose. That's the problem.
I already know it. Here's the final Fantasy Things update
before the final update after Summer Slam next week. Okay,
in ninth place with negative twenty five George Cruz, We

(02:05:00):
reap what we sow. Fucking deserve it, uh In Aids
with negative twenty Angel Masa. I don't think he deserves it.

Speaker 4 (02:05:08):
He deserves it.

Speaker 8 (02:05:10):
Yeah it In.

Speaker 1 (02:05:11):
Seven of the negative twelve point five George Sparrows, he
doesn't care. Did he even drafts a team? Was he
even here? I don't know if he was. He was miserable,
hated it. In six with twenty Donald would good? Fuck him?
Yeah he should be in last hopefully he is, But

(02:05:34):
well him and George will be tired for last. I
agree that'd be perfect poetic. Even in fifth with forty
seven point five, in fourth with fifty five, big bunny, Mike, Wow,
we're gonna we're gonna come back to that though, Okay,
I mean you could win a lot of fucking points.

(02:05:56):
Though we're gonna come back to that. You might win third.

Speaker 4 (02:05:59):
Thing.

Speaker 1 (02:06:00):
In third with seventy Chris Jeter, he's this guy's a
contender every time. I know, I know, I'm so nervous,
and second with eighty five Reggie Gill also a contender always,
and in first with one oh two point five dude,

(02:06:21):
Brandon Gallvin. That lead I feel like, I'm so I'm so.

Speaker 5 (02:06:25):
Mad because I really debated dropping bron Breaker after Revolution, and.

Speaker 1 (02:06:31):
Now I really know do Mike.

Speaker 5 (02:06:34):
At the end of Raw was a roller coaster overse
of emotions because Rains comes out there, get there there,
they have one up on on bron Breaker and bron three.

Speaker 1 (02:06:45):
I'm like, whoa hold on, maybe there's a chanceman and Summer.

Speaker 5 (02:06:48):
Nope, We've got shoes being stolen, people getting spear left
and righty and put through tables. I'm like, give me
a I'm like can we say some of this for SummerSlam. No,
it's all on Raw and we all know what that means.
That means bron Breaker and Bronstree are gonna lose.

Speaker 1 (02:07:05):
My only hope is that they're, like, you know what,
we had to kind of keep this storyline going.

Speaker 5 (02:07:09):
Let's give them a win, a huge win over the bloodline.
We'd be massive and putting these guys over.

Speaker 1 (02:07:14):
But I don't know.

Speaker 5 (02:07:15):
Roman Rains is back in his first match in his
WrestleMania guy hasn't won all year. Give me a fucking break, man.
That's ten points, right, that's minus ten. Who else do
you got? So here's my thing, Mike. I feel like
they might have j. C. Matteo just fucking lose to

(02:07:37):
Jacobatu on Friday for no fucking reason.

Speaker 1 (02:07:40):
So there that's another minus ten.

Speaker 5 (02:07:42):
Okay, Trick probably won't even wrestle tonight, right, Okay, that's nothing.

Speaker 1 (02:07:47):
That was a waste.

Speaker 5 (02:07:50):
I have goonther would He probably won't.

Speaker 1 (02:07:54):
That's tough, man, that's I know.

Speaker 5 (02:07:56):
My only hope is that this is a new storyline
with him and let's you know, build it up maybe
at like in like Australia or something. They have they
give him, they get Sea Punk the wins. That's my
only hope is Goother retains a champion. He only won
in like June, so he's still all right. Then it
all comes down at the end of the night, the
fucking main event Mike Cody Rhodes against John Cena, and

(02:08:21):
for a while I thought Cody's gonna win. I am
now extremely nervous about Cody winning.

Speaker 1 (02:08:26):
I think Cody's winning, so I think he got that one.
To me. I think the Guther that's very tenuous. I
don't know.

Speaker 5 (02:08:33):
If Goonther loses, that's minus fifteen yep. And if Cody wins,
that's plus twenty. Yeah, So I'm still up on that.
Ron breaker will give me minus only ten though, right
ten point match on that's not that bad. But I'm
like that, I feel like I'm down in the water.

Speaker 1 (02:08:55):
So here's what I'm looking at. You look at this.
It looks like Reggie's on your heels. This year's on
your I think you, Mike, maybe five points. I feel
like you can win this whole thing because here's what
I'm looking at. Yep, that Jade Cargill plus twenty think
maybe I think so I got Naomi plus, she's definitely winning, right,

(02:09:16):
she's definitely winning. Give me break. You just got Jacob
Battu that one. I don't know. I think plus twenty potentially, yeah, Dominic.

Speaker 5 (02:09:28):
Serious, I think I think dom wins.

Speaker 1 (02:09:31):
Plus fifteen potentially, that's a lot. I got Alistair black
On SmackDown against Damian Priest. That's the first big match.
I would hope I get plus ten there. Yeah, I
can make up what was that thirty forty seventy eighty
if I if they all win, I could get you
win points. You win, but one loss or two losses

(02:09:53):
and it sucks the whole thing up. So I am.
I could go all over the map here. It will
be very but you can easily come back from out
of nowhere. R ko boom w. It could happen. It's
gonna be very interesting. So everybody buckle up.

Speaker 4 (02:10:06):
All right.

Speaker 1 (02:10:07):
Then we got we got Reggie. See Reggie's in second.

Speaker 4 (02:10:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:10:10):
Right, So here's the thing.

Speaker 5 (02:10:11):
I mean, hank a Tank not to wrestle tonight, right,
and the EO not to We don't, I mean we don't. Right,
she's losing. Contino gonna be Rhea or Naomi. I can't
see where you're doing it. I think you got the
fifteen right there?

Speaker 1 (02:10:25):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (02:10:26):
Right.

Speaker 1 (02:10:26):
I don't think Charlotte wins. I don't think he likes
to win, do you. Yeah, I think. I think that's possible,
but it's possible. I don't think they win. I don't
think so either. And Stephanie's not.

Speaker 5 (02:10:37):
Wrestling, right, so I think at the very least Reggie
can't win, right. I think it's coming down to me
and you.

Speaker 1 (02:10:49):
May the best man win or made the least unlucky
man win. This is fucking insane.

Speaker 5 (02:10:55):
I might have to retire if I lose all because
of fucking on Breaker Bro.

Speaker 1 (02:11:00):
I'm so mad.

Speaker 5 (02:11:01):
I really up dropping him.

Speaker 1 (02:11:04):
Hey, you know, we all make the stops. I didn't
know who I was gonna pick up.

Speaker 4 (02:11:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:11:09):
I was glad I got Naomi because I was like,
all right, that's a definite fifteen. Right. I couldn't get
her Summer. Yeah, I couldn't get Nikki Vella. Yep, wild man,
We'll see. We'll see a right, guys, stay tuned. SummerSlam
ends at season forty. But for now, we're going to
close out this show with emails. Guys ring Ress Radio

(02:11:31):
at gmail dot com. Send us to your emails and
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to the email to her higher. We have to read
at least one of your emails every single month. Oh yeah,
we're starting with one from Chris Candido Vittorino subject sports
drinking games. What's up, Rusters. I know Donnie doesn't need

(02:11:53):
another reason to drink, but what are some drinking games
you guys play when you watch or go to sporting events.
Drinking after every two count in wrestling sounds like a
good way to get alcohol poisoning, especially if you go.

Speaker 5 (02:12:03):
To fucking a w W one well Oscar match, you're
fucking done.

Speaker 1 (02:12:08):
My friends and I drink after every icing when we're
watching hockey. Sometimes it's a lot, and sometimes it barely
happens at all. Sometimes it's a real lot. Sometimes it's
like a few possessions in a row. Yeah. I live
in Vegas, so I'm a Golden Knights fan. Mike. I
know you hate Jack, Michael, but you should hate the
Savers organization. Okay, I'll separate there. I hate Jack and

(02:12:30):
the Savers because Jack like a bitch, and the Savers
organization sucks. So there we go. There you go. Uh
they really they really seem like they aren't trying that
hard to get the guys to help them to win. Well,
their general manager sucks, are not trying hard enough to
fire him because that's what they should do. Uh. It's
also hard to get guys to get you to win

(02:12:50):
because nobody wants to sign with your team or good
players have trade no trade clauses. I don't want to
get traded your team anyways. Still like your savers over
anything in Philly, same of thanks for all you guys do,
evergreening content and alls you got anything.

Speaker 5 (02:13:09):
Mike, my friend group and I when we would drink
and hang out, we watched Red Zone all fucking day.
Chreas inventions of all time except for the air conditioner
and the Internet. We never played games like that where
it was like if this happens during a game, drink
We were just like, yo, you can fucking drink during
while you're watching the game, Like, what what are you

(02:13:30):
talking about? We would play beer pong, flip cup you,
we play card like, We play like games like that,
but as far as like every time there's a two count,
now if you're just watching something.

Speaker 1 (02:13:43):
You're just having your drink, right, I I don't. I
really don't have any kind of like drinking game. The
extent of my drinking game is if the Bills are
facing the Chiefs in the playoff, I'm gonna drink a
whole lot because I know some dumbashi's gonna happen. I'm
gonna be depressed. But yeah, like you like, okay when
we go like not really anymore, but in the past

(02:14:04):
go to tailgate for Bill's game. We played like beer
pong or something, and but it's I don't think I've
ever done something where it's like watching a game and
you know you have to drink. If this happens, just
keep on drinking. That's what I do. Keep on good
email though, Yeah that was fun. Sorry, We're just not

(02:14:26):
like that. Next year comes from Dan du Man Marsh
So that does a Goldberg and seth Hi.

Speaker 5 (02:14:36):
When Goldberg was in w CW, he was called demand
by Larry's last name.

Speaker 1 (02:14:41):
Oh, Larry's abisco, I think is who he's do that.
Maybe he didn't know how to spell the bisco. That
is a tough name.

Speaker 5 (02:14:48):
Sorry, Uh he was why got interested in pro wrestling,
so he will always have my support. I'm assuming he's
talking about Goldberg and not Larry's Abisco.

Speaker 1 (02:14:58):
Uh I guess you know. I'll start right there because
Dan Marsh Dan Dumban Marsh. That's his new name, by
the way, because of this. Uh I you know what,
I was never a Goldberg fan, even as a kid
watching the show. I rooted for the nWo to beat
him every time. Every time I rooted for Hogan to

(02:15:18):
beat him in the fucking Georgia Dome. Okay, I just
was not a Goldberg fan, but I could see why,
like especially if kid watching it. That's why I thought
he was awesome.

Speaker 4 (02:15:28):
He was bigger than still in gold for a long time.

Speaker 1 (02:15:31):
Get the fuck out here, I can see get the
fuck out here. I can see why people view that.
So I'm not going I like Dan. I'm not going
to clown him for being a Goldberg fan.

Speaker 5 (02:15:40):
Well be screwing things up and cutting his goodbye speech
was so fucking wrong.

Speaker 1 (02:15:45):
They didn't make up for a.

Speaker 5 (02:15:46):
Bit by putting on YouTube. Oh I'm sorry to see
Seth hurt. It makes things interesting for Braun and the
Wise Man. Braun and Roman headline Night one of Wrestle Maynia.
Now that would be something good thing. The Dirt Sheets
told us that's the play in One Day, One Day.
As always, thanks for a great podcast. Let's support in
a very small financial way, Bring Rust, Bring Rust. Thanks

(02:16:08):
as always, Dan marsh Oh, he's close to Donnie.

Speaker 1 (02:16:12):
I feel good for you, Dan. Thanks, Thank you for support.

Speaker 5 (02:16:15):
Anyone supports us Patreon dot com, slash ringing us Radio.

Speaker 1 (02:16:18):
We greatly appreciate.

Speaker 5 (02:16:20):
Anything you do to help the show out, very much
appreciate it goes to go to YouTube. Thank you, email
bring us radio gmail dot com if you donate to
our five dollars emails here. Yeah, to email us and
we have to read it every single month.

Speaker 1 (02:16:33):
So can I go here real quick with the sure here? Okay,
that's say so Goldberg. You know, I get it. This
is retirement mad match. The Speechies cuts off, he's mad whatever.
I get that. Goldberg fans be mad or whatever. You
know that scene and uh Ricky Bobby Talladegan Knights, Uh,
we're that at the dinner table and his kids are

(02:16:56):
talking ship to their grandfather. He's like, you're you're gonna
let them talk of the to me? He's like, I
love the way they're talking to you because they're where.
That's how I feel about treating Goldber this way. I
love the way they treated Goldberg because he's a loser,
all right. I loved it. I enjoyed it. He thought
he could come on this show and be like, tell

(02:17:16):
us that we are allowed to talk about wrestling, and
then get mad when we do talk about wrestling it
comes back.

Speaker 4 (02:17:23):
He didn't get mad at us, He got mad at you.

Speaker 1 (02:17:25):
Shut the fuck up, you're not here. Everything going back
around in life. Yeah, uh goes, you know. I do agree.
That's one of the things we talked about. It's like
one of those blessings in disguise potentially, because when he
does come back, you have the extra added element of
surprise for a cash and and this does allow Bron
to be featured more heavily and you can focus more

(02:17:48):
on that Bron and Roman feud, which could very easily
lead to WrestleMania this coming WrestleMania Master between them. So uh,
I think that that could be a bright spot to
come from all that. I agree. All right, guys, thanks
so much for tuning in. As always, we appreciate you
and all your support. Sorry that you had to hear

(02:18:08):
some idiot say a couple of lines there. We were
trying to end this on a high note, but guys,
thank you so much. We'll see you here next week,
and hopefully Donnie's out here.

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