Episode 756: WWE Wrestlepalooza, AEW All Out Preview, Picks & Predictions!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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(01:10):
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Donald Wood looking if I feel to find a baby?

Speaker 2 (01:22):
How's it going? That was a terrible drup You are scale?
How hard are you? Mike zero? That's not true, that's
not sure. You guys are lying. Dude, I chumped it up.
I could hear it.

Speaker 1 (01:36):
You can hear it.

Speaker 2 (01:37):
I can hear the zipper unfurl in just a little
bit because it got a little toot.

Speaker 1 (01:41):
Not wearing a zipper, yeah, I'm wearing also.

Speaker 2 (01:45):
Not wearing pants and shot they just shoot all. I
don't need them. We have to talk about rest of
the day and listen. You know me, I don't like
to say when I'm right. I don't like to sit
here and tell you that I hear it never happened.
I was right about this week and w W I've
been right. Well, we'll talk about it more, but I
just was right all along about w b's being a

(02:06):
piece of ship and Vincent being the person we need
back now more than ever. So Yeah, it feels really
good to be justifiable, justifiably.

Speaker 1 (02:15):
Melts used to save and sucked.

Speaker 2 (02:18):
Well no, yeah, well that's what Dave said. Dave, you
as you posed, that is often wrong. Yeah, well listen,
his creative was oftentimes not the best, but it's about
more about his general presence and his overall business philosophy
that I missed the most.

Speaker 1 (02:36):
Gotcha, Yeah, you hate all that too.

Speaker 4 (02:40):
Don't you own stock in t k O? And isn't
it better than ever before? So wouldn't you prefer the
business philosophy that is currently being employed?

Speaker 2 (02:48):
Yes? If I was a capitalist piece of fucking trash,
you are how my capital?

Speaker 5 (02:53):
I'm justsh park Wow, actually a piece of ship?

Speaker 2 (02:58):
See different? Go ahead, j.

Speaker 1 (03:01):
Yeah, we are going to preview huge week. It's a
monument the week all out on Saturday, and on Saturday
is Russell Palooza.

Speaker 2 (03:10):
Yeah, because w's counter programming a W for no good
fucking reason.

Speaker 5 (03:14):
They're at different times three times.

Speaker 2 (03:16):
Yeah, because aw moved because they got scared. Smart again,
They're not, They're not stupid. They want actual people to show.
Why would they divide a customer base.

Speaker 1 (03:26):
Yeah, that is smart business for them to move, because
it would be decided to hold the show the only
Saturday that they could hold the show this month.

Speaker 2 (03:32):
Not true.

Speaker 1 (03:34):
But we're going to preview All Out and Wressell Palooza,
which will be done first. We'll see what Donnie feels like.

Speaker 2 (03:41):
It's gonna be a let me spoil it. It's fucking
a W.

Speaker 1 (03:46):
I thought you know which show is gonna like end first?

Speaker 2 (03:50):
A wou No, I'm still saying a W. It'll be going.

Speaker 1 (03:55):
Going into Russell Foreshore, just like it happened in July,
without a that, without doubt, I'll.

Speaker 5 (04:01):
Be turning it off to see the start.

Speaker 2 (04:02):
Of Wrestled and you, you and the other fucking pedophiles
will definitely do that. And that's fine.

Speaker 1 (04:09):
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going on pressing.

Speaker 2 (04:12):
You feel like I'm gonna walk the fuck out for
that this time. I feel like I'm definitely not sticking
around this time.

Speaker 1 (04:17):
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no reason, always do. I wish you could show us
this podcast at all.

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I agree.

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Speaker 2 (05:40):
Well, yeah, it's Spooky Seasons that we're tilling all the
spooky games this two months. I made September on October
Spooky Season. I just decided I don't give a shit.
So yeah, we got a bunch of haunted games, and shit,
I hope you like them. Yeah, but I mean, I
can't do only Madden videos.

Speaker 5 (05:57):
Why is that what you've been begging to do?

Speaker 2 (05:59):
Have you done? Yeah? Me and me and Mongo did it.
And he fucking told me at he fucking hated that
I kept taking offensive and defensive linemen and eagles. I
was like, what do you expect? I built in the trenches, dude.
But that's fine.

Speaker 5 (06:16):
So who were your skill position players?

Speaker 1 (06:19):
You're just waiting.

Speaker 2 (06:21):
Let me tell you something. When I got when I
got an offensive line above eighty five, I got two
nineties and two eighties and one fucking center at fucking
seventy nine. I could make fucking t J. Spears in
the fucking fifteen on your yard. Don't matter to.

Speaker 5 (06:35):
Me, Honestly, I think it's never really mattered.

Speaker 4 (06:38):
The fucking rings the offensive line. It's just that's not
true to what they're gonna be.

Speaker 2 (06:42):
It's not true at all. That's not true the offense,
especially in recent years, the better your offensive line, the
bigger the holes for your running back by and I
like big.

Speaker 5 (06:49):
Holes mm hmmm, and loose big holes.

Speaker 2 (06:52):
Dude, caaping. I like my gad's gaping. Dude. All right,
guess if you want to watch me in uh mango
draft the team and you can listen to his disappointment
as I shoot him down taking offensive fucking skill positions,
as I take a backup guard. Uh, then you can
let enjoy that. You'll love that. But we gotta talk wrestling,

(07:14):
so let's do it.

Speaker 6 (07:16):
We're gonna put this on in order from the w
to darg about to have a discussion about the one
who's born who sell the finish just just makes sense
in the r Tell me who watched the rush, who's
catching it on the mark just takes some one cutting
and up here in the rush blew up like up
my head.

Speaker 1 (07:31):
You smacked down on the floor on the collision course
with the number one.

Speaker 5 (07:34):
So that lest it back to the ring for the
latest report, Ring Rush.

Speaker 1 (07:41):
And guys tam for.

Speaker 5 (07:44):
The w W A e W.

Speaker 2 (07:47):
Some people died, so we got to talk about this
first RP section. Uh, Jaka, I don't know if you. Yeah,
he was a guy who was in Beyond Wrestling when
I was watching Beyond all the time, and he think
he was in two Yeah, so he had been around
for a while. He was a hard hitting guy. I
just don't I don't know why he didn't catch it anywhere,
but he was mostly independent. But he's a really good wrestler.

Speaker 1 (08:11):
And he had passed away. He was pretty young.

Speaker 5 (08:12):
I think it was in his forties, thirty nine, I
think said.

Speaker 2 (08:15):
Okay, that's crazy. Uh. Another one, Natcha Barrera. I think
he was a territorial wrestler, maybe from the eighties, I
want to say, maybe nineties. Yeah, I didn't know much
about him, but I did get sent that and he
did pass away. So sending out condolence is to Natcha
Barrera's family and and mister Kirk himself who was assassinated.

(08:39):
It's pretty sad, and I just want to say that
everybody's celebrating his death with coward and you should be
fucking any of people celebrating his death. It's disgusting, dude,
fucking celebrating haulk Hogan's death, mister Chuck Kirk because I
called him Chuck. We're on like that kind of basis.
So it's disgusting people out there doing that. So uh

(09:00):
uh what what what I mean? I can't be American?
I thought it was America.

Speaker 5 (09:06):
And also when you want to mention every time there's
a fucking school shooting in this country, then we could
start picking and choosing specific.

Speaker 2 (09:13):
I'll mention that too. Can I say something to you
that's also bad? They're all bad? I agreed, Yeah, it's bad.
It's real bad. I'm taking that stance. I'll hear at
ring rest murder, I mean most of.

Speaker 1 (09:30):
The time, well you murder our ears every week.

Speaker 2 (09:33):
So most of the time. To get that in there,
because I think murder would probably be good in some cases, though,
you know what I mean, if I'm honest.

Speaker 5 (09:39):
So you just totally went back on what you're saying ok.

Speaker 2 (09:42):
I like serial rapists murder them, you know what I mean,
pedophiles murder them. I'm sorry, I hate to say it.
I gots there's my stance. So some murder good most
because Buck zoom Off was a child rapist, I wish
we murdered. When I went through w CCW, I was like,
let's this cat. This cat's cool, right, Mike, who's this guy?

(10:03):
Mike's like, oh, that's a rock rold bucks up. Let
me look him up. And he's like, dude, he was
a child molester. I was like, what he's like, Hey,
his own.

Speaker 4 (10:11):
Daughter one's favorite guys from his rewatch of wrestling was
a child monster.

Speaker 5 (10:16):
Dude.

Speaker 2 (10:16):
He was his own daughter or son was. So it
was so heinously horrible that I was like, oh my god,
what is happening here?

Speaker 1 (10:24):
Dude, Donny, do you see that there's gonna be an
edge movie on Netflix?

Speaker 2 (10:27):
I did, of course, I did. You You think people
still don't talk to me about attention hors all the time.
I just need one if you're rich.

Speaker 5 (10:35):
Like, here's a John Wayne Gacy series coming out on
one of the stream services too.

Speaker 2 (10:40):
Is it sensationalized or like real? I think it's it's
just it's it's.

Speaker 5 (10:46):
It's one that came out.

Speaker 2 (10:47):
Okay, I didn't like that. I didn't watch that, but
I didn't. I didn't like it as much I thought
it was. I thought they had like a lot of
creative freedoms. And that's kind of where you dance that
line between good taste and he humor and like honest,
true fact and fiction kind of worshiping.

Speaker 1 (11:05):
You never told that line.

Speaker 2 (11:07):
Oh, I just made fun. I was just there to
make comedies in the yacht YUS. We all acknowledge how
horrible everything was. Yeah, all right, that's one more. One
more r I p uh. Two fans go into WrestleMania
r i P to WrestleMania Weekend for the indie shows
wrestling r I P. Yeah. Not many Americans though, Hey

(11:31):
yeah yeah yeah.

Speaker 1 (11:32):
Uh So.

Speaker 2 (11:33):
Honestly, when Triple H announced and I guess I'll just
yell about this now, Triple H announced, Hey, we're going
to Saudi Radia, the rumors had broke or whatever. I
message you guys.

Speaker 5 (11:43):
I was like, is this real?

Speaker 2 (11:43):
And you're like probably right. So I was like, okay,
saw that. I just want to talk about this real quick,
right now. I think this is awful. I think that
if you're going to do it internationally, I guess standing
back from it as a someone who does stock and TKO,
it's it just shows how much money they're making on
this deal, because again it's another decision that leads to

(12:07):
a spike in their worth, which means they're getting asked
tons of money for this. So they most likely Riad
had now outbid every other city in the fucking world.
That's kind of what we're getting a lot by a lot, right,
So they okay, so here's the deal. They would be
foolish not to take that money, right. But with as

(12:31):
a fan of the product, as a fan of like
we've attended a few now, I think it's very unfair
to the people who are loyal to them to do
this kind of thing. And it leads to there was
a call with TIKO president Mark Shapiro here it is,
and he said that Vince McMahon focused on families and
praising tickets instead of maximizing to the fullest, right, And

(12:54):
that's what we're seeing. The difference was because I said
to you guys, like, of course they're generating the most
revenue they ever had. They're charging more than they ever
have and charging like as much as they possibly can
each time, which will almost always yield the max results.
And that's what their stock but that's what their stockholders want.

(13:16):
You could say whatever you want, but that's just simply
the truth. They're they're they're appeasing stockholders, you know, Okay, No,
just I'm just I can't speak to the other one.
And you can't either, because you don't have any number.
It's very stupid. You adjusted who adjusted for inflation?

Speaker 1 (13:35):
W E?

Speaker 2 (13:36):
I don't know. Okay, then then I'm not taking that
as serious. I'm thankful they make more money now because
they charge more than ever bottom line, Right, that's the truth.
So they're saying, and that's and that's okay. Vincent Man
was trying to And I think what I really appreciate
in this sense about vincick Man is he seemed like
he was like, I know, if I get the parents
in there with the kids, the kids will eventually bring

(13:57):
their kids, because that's kind of how wrestling was, right,
And now what you're doing is you're pricing out families.
And that's what I think is gonna be the ultimate
detriment to WW. And I listen, I'm taking myself out
this WWAW thing and the spiel that we do here.
I hate that when corporate style lose it, when you're
just all you have to do is get those stockholders

(14:19):
to be happy and you have to turn a profit.
At some point, you have to take losses to have
the fucking people be loyal to you, and they're never
going to anymore and the result will be a worse product.
I think the real reason why that even Deebrah said it,
the reason why WW they don't view aw's competition. Obviously,

(14:41):
they don't view them as competition on a money from
a fucking fan perspective, from a TV's perspective, they don't
view them as fucking true competition. Where they view them
a problem is the fact that they are paying their
fucking wrestlers forty to fifty percent of the total value
of the company, while ww's saying their wrestlers much less

(15:01):
than that, and by doing that, AW is forcing WB
to pay more and they know that that's what's gonna
fuck their bottom line in the long run, so they're
trying to run AW into the ground so they fucking
don't have to do that. And to me, I think
in all of that. This is what we talk about
in terms of corporate fucking greed. When you go public,

(15:24):
you have to appease your stock cloths and Mike, I
know that this is capitalism. I know that this is
what America was technically founded for. But I don't have
to like it. I don't have to like what they're doing.
I don't like to I don't have to like the
fucking result or the way it makes the business look. Now.
I don't like how much I don't like change in

(15:46):
my life, and this feels like WW is no longer
the business that I knew, from the shit in the ring,
dumb shit advertising to all the excess bullshit that was
never there before. I hate it and I hate turning blind.
I do it like it's not fucking there. Okay, you
can say whatever you want about hold On, hold On,
hold on. You can say whatever you want about the

(16:07):
corporate structure and how they have to appease everybody, and
I do truly understand that. I invest. I understand. I
like my money.

Speaker 1 (16:15):
I do.

Speaker 2 (16:16):
I get it, and they're making me more money and
for that I'm thankful. But as somebody watching the product,
it makes it worse.

Speaker 5 (16:24):
Before I agree with aspects of your argument.

Speaker 4 (16:27):
I'll say that that whole thing for you at least
was performative because you don't care about WW either way,
you don't really watch it, you don't go to events.

Speaker 2 (16:36):
Watched it and loved it my whole life, Mike, As
long as I can really remember, I've been watching WWE,
even when I hated it at its hold on, even
when I hated it because you have to even yeah, okay,
maybe yo, because I'm tired of it because I watch
it for work now. But even in two thousand and two,
two thousand and three, when I hated hated what WW

(16:57):
had done to WCW, and I hated wrestling in those times,
I still watch WW because I do love wrestling. And
as much as I don't like the direction of w W,
where the shit that Vincent Game was doing before he left,
or what the company has become, since I still watch it,
I do still like wrestling. I would and maybe I
wouldn't watch week to week, but I'd come back for wrestling,
and i'd come back for the big matches because I'm

(17:18):
a sucker and I love it, and what's happened to
it is dog shit, Dude.

Speaker 4 (17:23):
I'll certainly agree that decisions that are being made are
not for the benefit of the fans. There's no question
about the decisions being made are for the benefit of
the business. And you know, we talk about this all
the time as if you look at it through the
lens of a fan, it's unfortunate and it sucks because, yes,
you do have to pay more to go to these
events because they've become a hot ticket because and that's

(17:44):
the thing, like people still go so they feel that
they can charge these prices, you know, and the NFL
does it, and you know, all these other sports leagues
do it, and it's just the reality of the situation unfortunately,
where it it's a give and take because back for
the last you know, ten years or whatever you want

(18:05):
to say, Vince was in charge, where the price is cheaper, absolutely,
but you're also going to sit for a three hour
raw and most of the time it's fucking unwatchable, or
you're going to a pay per view in my case,
to see Big Show knockout Randy.

Speaker 5 (18:16):
Orton and Daniel Bryant at the end and you leave mad.
I don't think that happens as much nowadays.

Speaker 4 (18:22):
It's a better product but yes, they're not appealing to
the fans in the sense you know, of being you know,
a fairly priced in terms of this decision to have
WrestleMania in Saudi Arabia.

Speaker 5 (18:37):
But unfortunately, it's the reality we live in.

Speaker 4 (18:40):
It's really the reality of all major sports now as
it relates to Saudi Arabia. It sucks from a fan
perspective because obviously, and not that you know, I don't
know that we were going to go to wrestleminga forty
three anyways, maybe if it was in a certain place,
we would have.

Speaker 5 (18:54):
We're certainly not going to Saudi Arabia for it. Most
people who are fans in the United States are not
going to go to Saudi Arabia for it.

Speaker 1 (19:02):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (19:02):
And you know, you don't have all the festivities around
it in the United States like you typically would, whether
it's w W LATOR, whether.

Speaker 5 (19:09):
It's the Indies and stuff like that. I don't really
care about that aspect of it.

Speaker 2 (19:12):
But don't you don't care about the in the India
aspect of it.

Speaker 4 (19:16):
No, I don't care about them capitalizing off rustumating week
because they can go do their own things somewhere else
if they want to do that.

Speaker 2 (19:21):
Yeah, but the idea was you were you were all
gathered in the same place, and you had all of
the fans gathered in the same place. It became a
convention's responsibility to carry sure. Sure, but you created an
ecosystem that they leach off of all the time and
then they abandoned it.

Speaker 5 (19:37):
But that like that, that has nothing to do with
that's I'm totally fine with them doing that. They don't
have any.

Speaker 2 (19:42):
Honestly, that's sick, no responsibi.

Speaker 5 (19:46):
They have nothing to do with the other companies.

Speaker 2 (19:48):
I disagree.

Speaker 1 (19:49):
I think you do.

Speaker 4 (19:50):
I be that this is going to be happening in
Saudi Arabia because you know, obviously there's the the human
rights issues in Saudi Arabia that but our government fucking
ignores it.

Speaker 1 (20:01):
All these other sports leagues and businesses ignore it.

Speaker 4 (20:03):
The NFL is having through fanatics, this fucking flag football
game with Tom Brady and all these NFL legends and
current of NFL players. I can't imagine what Saudi Arabia
is paying for that PGA tour. I don't know what's
happening with it, but they did have an agreement in
place for a merger with Live golf, where Saudi Arabia
would be backing the PGA Tour, Formula One running races
in Saudi Arabia. Fucking Canelo and Crawford was promoted by

(20:28):
Saudi Arabia. And everything we're seeing now is this Turkey
Ali Shish guy and they're calling him your excellency, and
he's fucking on every sports thing you could possibly watch.
This is the reality we live in where Saudi Arabia
has so much fucking money that if they want something,
unless you're willing to really take a moral hard line,

(20:49):
these these sports leagues are just gonna go with It.
Would not shock me at all within the next five
to ten years if there's like a Super Bowl in
Saudi Arabia because the money's just gonna be too much
to turn down.

Speaker 1 (21:01):
And that's the reality we live in.

Speaker 4 (21:02):
It sucks for the fans, but I guess if I
was running a business like that and I was getting
thrown two hundred and fifty million dollars at me, like,
what decision could I make other than to take.

Speaker 1 (21:14):
That money because you have to for your shareholders.

Speaker 4 (21:16):
It's it's a shitty situation that Saudi Arabia is basically
just able to do whatever they want and people do it.

Speaker 1 (21:25):
To me, this is fucking discussing. I heard a lot
of what Donnie said. I first off, I said from
the start, I even hate it when they just had
the Prime logo on the mat. Now, if you go
the Raw on Netflix, there's tons of logos all over
the mat, and I fucking hate it. I've always hated it.
I hated every company, hated it in New Japan, doesn't

(21:46):
matter where it is, I always hated it. I always
appreciated that Vince had the mat as sacred. I understand
promotions around ringside perfectly fine, even the promotions you know
between matches, Okay, this is what is sponsor your matches.
I get it. Smart business. And to me, what I
agree with Donnie to me, WrestleMania du V. You know

(22:10):
all these companies when it comes to WrestleMania Weekend, all
these fans are gathered potentially one hundred thousand people, seventy
plus thousand people. You know that these companies are going
to be able to feed their families by you being
able to host an indie show. We've always said that
these companies are quote unquote leeching of DUV for Wrestlmingia

(22:31):
Weekend and is what it is because that's the gathering
of wrestling, right Vince built that that is something to
hang your head on. And I think you do have
a responsibility to the industry, even though the feels that
they are above the industry, but they are the wrestling industry,
and I think it is important that you hold it
where fans are going to be able to go to.

(22:53):
And I think this is a dangerous precedent because we've
already seen it. We saw it this year they announced
WrestleMania for New Orleans, but then I guess Vegas comes
in with a better deal, and now we're back to
Vegas for the second straight year. So to me, if
this is all going to come down to, well, we
can't turn turn down this deal because we have the

(23:13):
shareholders to appease. What's stopping Saudi Arabia. I'm having WrestleMania
pretty much every year. If they ever wanted this should
not have been WrestleMania. As far as I'm concerned, Soud
the Arabia, They've been having events for years, and you
want to do fucking WrestleMania backlash for all I care, fine,
do it the next month like they had, you know,

(23:34):
four or five years ago whenever that was. But to
have WrestleMania, the sacred WrestleMania overseas, I never liked that.
I would have understood it. If they did it in London,
that's been asking for you want much. I would have
accept that. I would have appreciated that if you had
it where we have it on the afternoon on Saturday

(23:58):
and maybe at night or the next next day. It's
in America. That way, we're appeasing two separate entities here.
But to have all of Wrestlmania and the entire WrestleMania
weekend overseas, you're the benefit of WrestleMania in any city
in America is massive. They've been Italian this for like
over a decade. How much money a city can make

(24:21):
by having WrestleMania. And to take that away, I fucking
hate it. And again it's when when will it stop?
Because you are for two hundred and fifty million quote
unquote that's the rumor, okay, But what happens next year
when they offer you three hundred because they liked it
so much? Do you have to take that deal? Then? Right?

(24:43):
That's what it comes down to. Yeah, I don't know
so well they've they've already done it with Vegas. So
if the whole thing is well, we we have to
you know, you have a fiduciary duty to your shareholders
to make as much money as you possibly can on
the deal. And so so if that's what it is
for every year from Wrestlingia, because no one's going and

(25:08):
no one's going to because it's not financially responsible for
them to do so, apparently that's the room that's going
around with John seen this last match. I believe Melts
reported that w W wanted seven million dollars from Boston
to go have Saturday Night's main event in December for
seeing his last match. They said, that's not financially responsible

(25:29):
for us of what we would make for that, and
apparently DC says we can do that. And so now
seeing his last match, which should have fucking been in
Boston is not going to be in Boston because they
have to take a higher deal for this event.

Speaker 2 (25:45):
It's it makes you yearn for a it makes you
yearn for a mark in charge. Vince Mickmahon was a mark.

Speaker 4 (25:56):
Let's not do the Vin thing though, the Vince smick
Man thing it's not gonna agree with a lot of
what's been said. But the reason that I need of
this even happen is because of Vince McMahon. Because Vince
is the one that started the Saudi Arabia deal and
Vince is the one that sold the company because he
wanted to get revenge for getting ousted and wanted to
weasel his way back into the company. So it's actually

(26:18):
it's actually all Vince's fault that this happened outare you
this is reality, but you're you're.

Speaker 1 (26:25):
Ruining a lot of what makes wrestling wrestling. Right. You
don't get money in the bank twenty eleven if it's
not in Chicago, right, seen this last match. I don't
care if fucking DC wants to pay you seven million
and Boston says we can pay you five million. Whatever
it is, right, But it's like it should have been

(26:45):
in Boston. There's just certain things that as a wrestling
fan and promoter, you say, no, it's actually better off
for the long run where this is where it is.
And seen his last match, for example, being in Boston,
that is something that will forever be And to John Cena,
who's made this company probably more than fucking seven million

(27:07):
dollars right over the course of twenty three.

Speaker 4 (27:10):
The rumor, the rumors he actually wanted it in London
because he thinks that that's the best crowd.

Speaker 1 (27:18):
For his last match. Yes, I'm sure, because he wanted
WrestleMania in London as well. Yeah, so that's perfectly fine,
but it wasn't gonna be in London. So the fact
of the matter is you were between Boston and apparently DC,
and it should have been in Boston. And this is
just another point about when it comes to WrestleMania, of
how important it is of where you place it and

(27:40):
having people congregate from all over the world. They would
tout this, all these different countries coming together in America
in this city to go watch this show for one
or two nights was a huge deal. And like you said,
I agree, people aren't gonna fucking do that to go
to Saudi Arabia. So you got your money, but you're
ruining what makes WrestleMania WrestleMania. We've had plenty of shows

(28:04):
in Saudi Arabia. We've seen the spectacle. I'm sorry, but
there's not gonna be anything different that they can do
for WrestleMania. Compared to what they did for Crown Jewel
or whatever fucking event that they just had in June,
It's not gonna be the same.

Speaker 4 (28:18):
We have the rockers, Roman Reigns and like Stone could
receive a bunk though possibly.

Speaker 1 (28:25):
At least get that out of okay, but you also
may have gotten that they have that in just a
fucking random shown Crown Jewel. That could have just happened
if they fucking really wanted to be didn't have to
be WrestleMania because they have so much money.

Speaker 5 (28:36):
That they wanted their fifty I guess.

Speaker 1 (28:38):
Sure they want and to have that branding. Fucking give
them wrestle Paluza. You got half of it. It's just
what about plus Mania.

Speaker 2 (28:49):
Listen, it is what it is, what it is, what
it is. Saudi has got lots and tons of money,
and WW likes lots and tons of money, and welcome
to business. If Saudi Arabia honestly, let's be honest, BJ
Saudi Arabia says we want to advertise on Ring Rolls Radio,
We'll give you a million dollars a year. I'll come
out here in a fucking headdress and fucking do whatever

(29:11):
the fuck you want. Me to do not the same thing,
but in a matter it's very similar in my opinion.
But it's what it is, what it is. So let's
let's let's get.

Speaker 1 (29:25):
Got the ar rumble next year.

Speaker 5 (29:26):
If Saudi Arabia is listening right now, I will sell out, honestly.

Speaker 2 (29:30):
I mean, I won't do anything anti American, but i'll
talk up.

Speaker 5 (29:34):
That are anti American. I won't kill anybody though, that's
that's too American to kill people.

Speaker 2 (29:39):
You're disgusting, but it is. It is definitely American. Uh
So let's talk about a w all out. Let's start.

Speaker 1 (29:47):
The only benefit, the only benefit of a being in
Saudi Arabia. It's probably gonna be like twelve one, two,
three o'clock in the afternoon.

Speaker 2 (29:55):
Also, it's all the stars whoever existed. They're gonna bring
people back from the dead at these prices. Dude, Yokozuna, dude, seriously,
you don't think fucking you want you wanted to talk
to Bam bam, this is your shot.

Speaker 5 (30:05):
I really do think we get Rock and Roman and
I hope Stone Cold and see him.

Speaker 2 (30:09):
I think Undertaker and show Michaels that show Michael's going
through surgery right now. Just seriously, he is like, hold
the fucking phone. I'm gonna have to get another twelve
mil for a fucking ten minute match.

Speaker 4 (30:20):
I do think we see I really think Taker will
come back out of return because his last match was
in front of no fans.

Speaker 2 (30:26):
Oh yeah, dude, is we're getting Seawan Michael's Undertaker again.
I'm one hundred percent convinced of it.

Speaker 5 (30:32):
Lifetime wrestling.

Speaker 1 (30:34):
That is what melts through out there as far as Okay,
they have all this money to pay for this show,
They're gonna they want all the legends like they always do.

Speaker 2 (30:41):
And so my question, and he didn't get to see
the rock when he was just a baby emperor, and
now that he's a big old emperor, he gets the
fucking half with all the toys he wants.

Speaker 1 (30:51):
Would you guys, because I mean these guys movie.

Speaker 2 (30:54):
In like he asked me to go with you?

Speaker 5 (30:57):
No, do you guys want to go?

Speaker 1 (30:59):
Do you think that me would actually get actual matches
or like a battle royale like they did at WrestleMania seventeen,
like a gimmick battle royal. Yeah?

Speaker 4 (31:11):
First of all, I pray we get a fucking gimmick
Battle Royal. Second of all, I don't think they're throwing
the rock.

Speaker 1 (31:17):
And stone cold. I agree, like I think if that happens,
they're having real.

Speaker 4 (31:22):
Like I said, I think, I don't think it's a
question against Roman reigns against them.

Speaker 2 (31:26):
I can I tell you the truth. For two and
fifty million, I think the Prince is booking this more
or less, more or less at least I'm paying two
hundred and fifty million dollars. Dude, you better move aside
I'm driving. I'm not. That's it's wild, dude. That's a
lot of money. Okay, So let's go to aw all
at because that's what people came here for. They don't

(31:47):
give a shit about our dumb shit ww opinions about
Saudi Arabia. Who gets right? Honestly, if if that didn't record,
they didn't even hear most of it, it doesn't even matter.
Aw all out. Let's start with Adam. We're gonna do that. Okay,
get your d low brown, had that, Oh, loosen up,
cracker st twist your lower back, do some trunk shakes.

(32:07):
Looking good. Adam Copeland and Christian Cage against F T
R in a My God, I'm hard for this match.

Speaker 5 (32:16):
You're hard for it so hard.

Speaker 2 (32:18):
Couldn't be hard, because this is the kind of opener
that you guys. I like, Yeah, these guys are in
WW and now they're in a W doing better and
I love them. So Christian Cage isn't doing better. F
t R isn't doing better.

Speaker 1 (32:31):
Christian Cage is not doing better. No, f TR they
should have ever heard, is.

Speaker 2 (32:38):
Not doing better than he wasn't I said the other guys,
I didn't say him f t R.

Speaker 4 (32:43):
F t R should have done the gimmick with the
leperchawn hats and like the lipstick cool what so So,
for whatever, I think Cope, as much as I love
the guy, he's a bad judge of talent and he
has this irrational love for f t YARD.

Speaker 1 (33:01):
I don't so.

Speaker 4 (33:02):
I kind of think FTR wins. I think there's gonna
be some shenanigans. I think FTR wins, and I think
they're going to kind of continue this feud.

Speaker 2 (33:09):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (33:09):
For whatever reason, Cope seems to think.

Speaker 4 (33:12):
That they're like the best tag team, not even closer
to being that. But I think they get them the
rub and then we end up getting this again at
some point.

Speaker 2 (33:21):
Can't wait good? They know they know how to make
good things happen again.

Speaker 1 (33:26):
All Right, it's in Toronto. I think Tony will book.
I think Tony will book Cope and Cage to win,
but f tr attacks them after.

Speaker 2 (33:37):
Yeah, I'm going with Cop and Cage to win because
it's in the Canadas.

Speaker 1 (33:40):
Yeah, if this really does open, I mean, this is
the first match list on the wiki, but I doubt
it opens. I don't think it opens, but if it does,
I would definitely think. I think it's probably like the
semi I think.

Speaker 4 (33:52):
It might be the main event because hey, Man vers
Kyle Fletcher is a not a good main event because
you know obviously what's happening there.

Speaker 2 (33:59):
Uh no, that's not true. So you have no Cope
and Cage. You're going to open up. I think what
you're gonna get is you're going to get the lady's
main eventing here.

Speaker 5 (34:09):
No, it's zero chance of that, which match which match.

Speaker 2 (34:12):
The timeless Tony stormtch.

Speaker 5 (34:14):
No, there's a zero percent on that.

Speaker 1 (34:16):
One doesn't even have as much as Mercedes has. Zero.

Speaker 2 (34:21):
Here's the thing, I always think the men's main event, well,
are the men's championship main events? Because Tony said that
explicitly years ago and he is not deviated from that.
But if that didn't even work, because I saw it.
I never saw maybe some lights some lights out match stampede. Yeah,
that's lights out.

Speaker 1 (34:39):
Things are timing was the main event.

Speaker 2 (34:40):
Yeah, told championship match. I told you, Okay, hurt Syndekon
against Ricochet and go, uh, I'm gonna take the hurt
Cyndekon because I don't think they like losing.

Speaker 5 (34:56):
Good point. Yeah, I don't think up here.

Speaker 1 (35:00):
I listened to what the Mercedes mons.

Speaker 2 (35:07):
I don't know. We're gonna find out he's been living
on that cane for about fifteen.

Speaker 5 (35:12):
I uh, that dead match doesn't need to be honest.
Eleven match card.

Speaker 2 (35:17):
We're gonna see it. Just make sure we it's gonna
be there. Mercedes Monet against Rio Rio.

Speaker 1 (35:24):
She's back.

Speaker 5 (35:25):
Was she injured or like having visa issues?

Speaker 1 (35:30):
Was injured and.

Speaker 2 (35:30):
Then also visa? I have no idea. Actually, I'm just.

Speaker 1 (35:33):
Making She's not gonna beat Mercedes.

Speaker 2 (35:35):
But this is gonna be a heck of a fun match.
I know that much. John Moxley and Darby Allen in
a coffin match, usually not four coffin matches. But I'm
gonna choose to think this is a grave consequences match.

Speaker 1 (35:51):
This is who I'm most excited to see big.

Speaker 2 (35:53):
Time again again. Saying grave consequences instead of Coffin match.
Coffin match makes you think of Kazoo and undertake. This
could be like, this could be like the Weird Day
over here. I like that.

Speaker 5 (36:05):
Legendary match.

Speaker 2 (36:06):
Got it, got it, got it, dude.

Speaker 1 (36:08):
It's definitely gonna be crazy. Definitely, they're gonna be bleeding
within ninety seconds.

Speaker 2 (36:16):
He comes out bleeding.

Speaker 1 (36:17):
He's gonna He's got a Goldberger already bleeding. He might bleed.

Speaker 2 (36:21):
Now.

Speaker 5 (36:22):
Darby has been trying to get revenge for like two years.
Some of that say he wins, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (36:26):
I would think he definitely wins here because it's his
style of match, and also he has threatened to kill
John Moxley on like three different occasions now, so I
think in this match, maybe you give Moxley some time
off by letting Darby Allen kill.

Speaker 1 (36:38):
That being said, he could he could be doing that
backdrop from like into the coffee into the coffin. Mosley
maybe moves and then close the lid.

Speaker 5 (36:52):
I think he's gonna do it on to.

Speaker 1 (36:55):
Yeah, and then Claudio comes in close the lid. They
both lose. Claudia wins.

Speaker 2 (37:00):
Okay, I gotta give him. That was for the contract
on fire.

Speaker 5 (37:02):
In this match, I think somebody will.

Speaker 2 (37:08):
Oh wow US three four Uh the MJ versus Mark Briscoe.

Speaker 5 (37:16):
In the classic Tables and dumb Tacks match, Like, what
is that?

Speaker 1 (37:21):
It was? No?

Speaker 2 (37:23):
No, it was a thing that Mark bristo. That's like,
it's a thing that Mark. Listen, it was. It was
gonna be like, here's the thing, like, is.

Speaker 5 (37:32):
Is it a tables match?

Speaker 1 (37:34):
Rules?

Speaker 2 (37:35):
I don't know that Listen. It came from a promo
that Mark Briscoe did where he said, I don't care
what kind of matches and he's just inventily like name
it off matches and tables and thumbtacks. Just something he
said in his ramblings and it became like a meme.
So now it's the match.

Speaker 1 (37:52):
But what's the rules?

Speaker 2 (37:53):
I don't know. I would assume fucking first person table
and thumbtacks and something.

Speaker 1 (37:59):
I don't think that's what it's gonna be, though, I
have no idea.

Speaker 2 (38:02):
We'll find out.

Speaker 5 (38:02):
I don't think they've ever done a tables match like
rules to match.

Speaker 1 (38:09):
They will have a graphic at this point in wrestling,
like lower just a regular tables match doesn't do it.
You'll go through tables all the time, so like it's not.

Speaker 2 (38:21):
I will tell you the best table match ever was
Big Show and Cody.

Speaker 5 (38:26):
He stepped through.

Speaker 2 (38:28):
I think like that from an intrigue perspective, that's the
best one. No, it's not.

Speaker 5 (38:36):
M uh better win because he just yeah in that
loss to the Hangman.

Speaker 1 (38:45):
So I do you think I'm J Wins?

Speaker 2 (38:49):
You think Bobby Lashley said no, go on m JF
stuff like said get out of our group.

Speaker 1 (38:56):
Yeah, probably I think MP did.

Speaker 2 (38:59):
Yeah, Okay, Timeless, Tony Storm, Jamie Hayter, Chris Statlander and
Decay Tony Wins.

Speaker 5 (39:09):
It's not even no drama here. They got nothing for
right now. They're like, just throw a bunch of people
in here.

Speaker 1 (39:16):
Flip they flipped what happened the last pay per view?

Speaker 2 (39:20):
Yeah, they gave the new people.

Speaker 1 (39:23):
And now the fail four, Like they just that's all
they can do with the.

Speaker 4 (39:27):
This is the a W Special And I've been saying
it for how long they can only book two women
at a time.

Speaker 2 (39:32):
Hey listen, man, even.

Speaker 1 (39:36):
Ten matches on the show, Like yeah, dude.

Speaker 2 (39:39):
Grit, Hangman Pay and Tony Storm Hangman Page against Kyle Fletcher.
I don't think we're gonna get a shock win here.
They do love Kyle Fletcher. I just don't see it.

Speaker 5 (39:53):
Did you see what the rumor was on this match?

Speaker 4 (39:55):
No, sir, that it was supposed to be a Hangman
in Wardlow, but Warlow tours Packer or whatever.

Speaker 1 (40:02):
And Warlow attack.

Speaker 4 (40:05):
Yeah, that rumor makes no sense to me whatsoever, because
and you're going to bring in Warlow his first matches
with the World Tunnel and he loses as the heavy
for the Don.

Speaker 2 (40:16):
Yellis that doesn't seem like it was gonna happen.

Speaker 5 (40:18):
I agree. It sounds way wrong to me, to be honest.

Speaker 1 (40:22):
It's it's time for Page to lose.

Speaker 2 (40:25):
No, I just he doesn't have to have a long rain.
But I don't think Kyle Fletcher is not the guy.

Speaker 1 (40:33):
Listen.

Speaker 2 (40:34):
I don't think it's a guy they do with Adam Paige.
I think i'f there's other issues and lack of story
is being told around Adham Page. That could be the issue.
If you ask me, Darby wins against Moxley and then
you let Darby go against Hangman Page and let Darby
beat him.

Speaker 4 (40:46):
I really think m JF should just be the guy
to beat him because he's so far and away their
most entertaining guy.

Speaker 2 (40:52):
Okay, let m j let well, okay, then to m
j F page. Let MJF take it, and then let
Harvey chase it and take it.

Speaker 1 (41:01):
Just did.

Speaker 5 (41:03):
He But he didn't go in his fucking title match
because they did that, dumb ass.

Speaker 2 (41:08):
Yeah, dummy, Okay, you dumb idiot.

Speaker 1 (41:11):
So let let fucking and Jeff let this main event
and Jeff Cash is in.

Speaker 5 (41:15):
That's the to do cashs anymore. Remember they changed it.

Speaker 1 (41:19):
Now you have to do it.

Speaker 5 (41:20):
They stole the Dario Quato thing.

Speaker 2 (41:22):
Guess what. He comes in and says, I never had
to announce it, though, yes you do. No, I never
had to announce it publicly. I announced it to Tony
Conna prior.

Speaker 5 (41:33):
That would be an aid of you think that.

Speaker 1 (41:36):
Many such a heal.

Speaker 2 (41:39):
We gotta get around and I need this. I need
this in my life. We've talked myself into it. Ocada
verse Takashia vers Mascara Dorado against the Beast Mortis or.

Speaker 4 (41:50):
The Beast Mortas Mascara Dorada or the Beast mortast ak
the Beast Mortas because he's in a relationship.

Speaker 2 (41:55):
With Yes someone winning. It happens in every timing. Androdi
got kicked out of w because they really.

Speaker 4 (42:05):
Got nothing going on with so many of these wrestlers. Huh,
the Hangman page was the feud was thrown together. This
Okada is just random.

Speaker 2 (42:15):
Mercedes and injuries seem to like derail a whole bunch
of ship over here sometimes, Like, don't feel like people
in aw get injured more.

Speaker 5 (42:23):
I wonder why. I don't know, but no, yeah, they
I mean in all wrestling.

Speaker 1 (42:28):
People get injured.

Speaker 2 (42:28):
Yeah, I mean, it just seems like it derails, like
I just noticed more like w W.

Speaker 4 (42:33):
Well, just I mean, you're just so happy that two
of their top guys I heard at the same time
and you take them off.

Speaker 2 (42:38):
It's rough, but it is what it is and who
you have in that Okada wins, right. Takashida was doing
amazing in New Japan. I wonder if they got something
in store for him here.

Speaker 1 (42:48):
Nope.

Speaker 2 (42:51):
Eddie Kingston for the first time in forever against Big Bill.

Speaker 1 (42:55):
That's fucking awesome that he's back.

Speaker 2 (42:57):
I hope he's I hope he's in really good show.

Speaker 1 (43:01):
I don't see how he's ready for this yet, but.

Speaker 2 (43:04):
I will say this, one way you could be ready
is if you took your fucking rehab real serious and
like changed yourself a lot. That could be like a
P dude, a d a P baby.

Speaker 1 (43:16):
Yeah he could, he could.

Speaker 2 (43:18):
Twenty years later it's lable dude, like he's gotta be
big Bill, like it's his kid ed he wins such
a coward, you know, the fucking dude like literally broke
half his body and he's like, it's as dumb as when.

Speaker 5 (43:38):
People were like calling Sammy's a Sammy Hogan recently.

Speaker 2 (43:42):
Unbelievable, dude, Sammy, don't get the dude they're talking They
Dan O'Brien once he started winning, and you know what
I mean, they sure did.

Speaker 1 (43:51):
And bro Dido again, Oh the main events.

Speaker 4 (43:55):
Evening brod gets three September to remember winners.

Speaker 2 (43:59):
Yeah, there you go.

Speaker 5 (44:01):
What do you think you haven't gone to a single
one of these shows that the area?

Speaker 1 (44:05):
I think, Yeah, that was weird.

Speaker 2 (44:07):
I gotta tell you, I had no desire to go
to these shows if.

Speaker 1 (44:11):
I was one and then I was really good.

Speaker 2 (44:13):
Actually, yeah, yeah, there was. There was a couple of things.
I probably should have gone to.

Speaker 1 (44:21):
One that opened with like Darby Allen, like just it
was a holy brawl.

Speaker 2 (44:25):
And Tony Storm had a hardcore fight. I loved that.
I wish I had seen in life. I mean, if
you remember I actually went to I went, didn't I
go to a t NA show. There haven't just because
there isn't a hardcore match or something right too? And
uh and what's the name killer Cross too?

Speaker 1 (44:42):
Yep?

Speaker 2 (44:42):
And I didn't see any A w shows. No, I
just it's a money thing. Tickets, tickets for priceer than normal.
So here's the thing when you know what's in there,
you know.

Speaker 7 (44:52):
Somebody doesn't care about the fans. Well, I think price
dollars charged US union workers. The best report that came
out ever was they never used them there. It's like,
no shit, dude, those ship.

Speaker 5 (45:07):
When we were there, didn't feel like there's any union
workers there.

Speaker 2 (45:11):
The only union workers in there were fucking actual workers
who are in the union who go to wrestling shows.

Speaker 5 (45:17):
It felt like the only workers there were the bar tunder.

Speaker 2 (45:19):
Yes, there was a couple of dudes on meth who
were like passed out near the bathroom. They might have
been cleaning up. Yeah, I love that place though, great vibes.

Speaker 5 (45:28):
I'm glad that I got to go to it at
least once.

Speaker 1 (45:30):
Ye, how come they stopped doing all out on Labor
Day weekend in Chicago.

Speaker 5 (45:38):
Because they how much anymore? Ever, since they ran Seampunko Yeah, yeah, I.

Speaker 2 (45:42):
Don't think they'd like going to Chicago as much because
they kind of jackknife as this thing and ruined it.

Speaker 1 (45:46):
When I went there for the first, the very first
All Here we Go Humble Braw nineteen. Yeah, it was
an amazing show, and Tony got on at the end
of the show and said, We're gonna be here every year.
It's gonna be our tradition.

Speaker 5 (45:59):
Are you seeing a fucking promoter?

Speaker 1 (46:00):
Lied?

Speaker 2 (46:01):
He's stunning, Dude, he bail He well, dude, he once
he lost punk he knew he couldn't sell it out anymore.

Speaker 1 (46:08):
It's a shame.

Speaker 5 (46:10):
Life.

Speaker 2 (46:11):
Yeah, only he hadn't been a pussy and started the
front head blocking people.

Speaker 1 (46:14):
Dude, exactly.

Speaker 2 (46:17):
Okay, wrestl Palooza.

Speaker 5 (46:18):
Preview, Who you got brod Or three September.

Speaker 2 (46:23):
Rotido is getting Brodidos like people. People like Brodido and.

Speaker 1 (46:28):
I've always liked Bandido. He's very good.

Speaker 2 (46:30):
Oh and I like I like brody king and as
rude as it sounds, this unlikely duo makes me love them.

Speaker 1 (46:36):
Yeah, it's good stuff.

Speaker 2 (46:37):
It's funny.

Speaker 1 (46:38):
It's it really is.

Speaker 2 (46:38):
It's a fun. It's like when you think of like
Caine and r v D or Cane and XPOC. It's
like something like that. It's fun.

Speaker 1 (46:45):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (46:46):
I do like that.

Speaker 1 (46:47):
Bryan is now on commentary. I said this a long
time ago. It's good. He is very good on he
I mean I saw it tweet. It was like he
lasted like six months at home when Brien was like,
I'm good yep.

Speaker 2 (47:00):
He saw the kid a bunch and he's like this sucks.

Speaker 5 (47:02):
Dude couldn't handle Birdie.

Speaker 2 (47:04):
And once once the kid goes to school, then you
have all day. You're like, come out, school's got it.
Russell Pulo's de low Brown's heads out here. We go
shake him loose because we've got two TV's are taken
a yes, yes, the.

Speaker 5 (47:19):
First one ESPN Unlimited.

Speaker 2 (47:22):
Figure out how much does it cost if you don't
have anything that I have nothing.

Speaker 5 (47:28):
It's thirty dollars for the month. An I have direct TV,
so it doesn't cost me anything extra.

Speaker 2 (47:33):
Oh that's pretty cool. I have a big TV is.

Speaker 5 (47:38):
Not part of it yet, but I have to assume
eventually it'll be part of it.

Speaker 1 (47:41):
I currently cannot watch this for free. I believe Comcast,
I think is the other one. There's a few. I know.

Speaker 5 (47:48):
Comcast definitely is one of them.

Speaker 2 (47:50):
There you go.

Speaker 1 (47:51):
So that's very disappointing.

Speaker 2 (47:53):
Well, the YouTube TV, if it gets it's gonna go
up another fucking twenty hours and we're just gonna have
to get Comcast or direct TV, is what it is. Okay,
e o Scot, that's just bending about my bill. Don't
like him?

Speaker 5 (48:06):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (48:07):
I cut the court radio, Yeah, seriously, I cut the
court to save money. It's been fucking now. It's like, damn,
you are the same.

Speaker 5 (48:14):
They just keep sucking raising the price no matter what.

Speaker 2 (48:17):
But I mean, yeah, they got his boy the balls.
I just want to watch the fucking sports.

Speaker 4 (48:22):
At this point, they purposely fractured it out to all
different streaming services and everything else that you have to buy,
just numerous things.

Speaker 5 (48:30):
You have to watch everything you want.

Speaker 2 (48:31):
Crazy. I listen a lot to the radio, now, I
tell you that much. Now, Yeah, watch on the radio.
Watch on the radio, dude, you should see it. I
do watch I even will I'll mute the TV and
put the radio on. Even when I'm watching the TV.

Speaker 5 (48:44):
It sounds incredible when jal Urt throws for one hundred.

Speaker 2 (48:46):
Yards, dude, he sounds incredible. Chris Jones like, y'all you
throw it for one hundred yards, moytherfucker, and he's like,
we won the game, shut your ass up, And we did.

Speaker 1 (48:55):
We won the game. It wasn't because of him, though,
It was because.

Speaker 2 (48:58):
The whole offense and the whole defense. Also, it's also
because the fucking Chiefs are comped.

Speaker 5 (49:03):
Yes, because it's Ascot showd.

Speaker 2 (49:05):
Yeah, dude, it's a legal place. I'm crying about it.
I can't run it as good as you, so I
don't like it.

Speaker 5 (49:12):
The Bills run it very well, actually, and they still.

Speaker 2 (49:14):
Want to run it nearly as well as Eagles.

Speaker 5 (49:17):
They run it the second best in the league.

Speaker 1 (49:19):
No one does like the number one, no.

Speaker 5 (49:20):
One pushes to like us, but they all they do
it legally. They don't line up off side.

Speaker 1 (49:25):
That's very stupid.

Speaker 5 (49:26):
They should try, though.

Speaker 2 (49:27):
I swear to God, why wouldn't you, dude? If we're
doing it? And I guess, yeah, who cares if it's
if they're not calling it.

Speaker 1 (49:35):
Why wouldn't you do it?

Speaker 2 (49:36):
You don't like winning. I don't know. Eo Sky vers
Stephanie the quay, Stephanie Kurry wins. Guy, this is to
me like one of the tougher calls. But she was
the sa thing Sky wasn't. Dude, it's obvious what's happening.

Speaker 5 (49:55):
I don't lie to me because my thought was that
U it was gonna be.

Speaker 1 (50:02):
Them.

Speaker 2 (50:03):
Yeah, they were sad. Biancapella, bianca bella up there. Sounded
like a fucking like a prisoner. She's out there, she's
out there doing like you ever see the guy who's like,
I am doing well here, but he's morse coding with
his eyelids that he's in danger. Right, she's doing that,
She's blinking, She's like, get me the fuck out of here, dude.

Speaker 4 (50:24):
I think the original plan for this would have been
Naomi like retaining against Stephanie. So I think they have
to completely go in a different direction and have somebody
else become champion. Obviously, so I could see them, you know,
going with EO is just the replacement for Naomi. But
because they're building out this thing with Oscar and Kyrie
and EO, I'll say that Oscar costs EO and Stephanie

(50:48):
wins the title.

Speaker 1 (50:50):
BJO with Stephanie.

Speaker 2 (50:53):
Yeah, I don't have any reason.

Speaker 5 (50:54):
I just is that for fantasy reasons she was.

Speaker 1 (51:00):
I thought she was going to beat Naomi at Paris.

Speaker 5 (51:03):
I did not.

Speaker 2 (51:05):
Against the Vision Bronze Brown Breaker, the Brons.

Speaker 1 (51:10):
It's pretty fun. Yeah, I don't understand what they're fucking
doing with this La Night thing though.

Speaker 5 (51:14):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (51:15):
I think there were turning j Heel.

Speaker 5 (51:17):
Now well, I don't think they're actually turning j Heel.
He's acting eelish, but he was on the phone with somebody.
Was it Roman Was?

Speaker 1 (51:24):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (51:25):
I'll tell you what.

Speaker 5 (51:26):
I think.

Speaker 2 (51:26):
The Vision wins here because Jay kicks Jimmy's head off.

Speaker 1 (51:30):
No, I don't think that we turned in the best
popular star in the company.

Speaker 2 (51:35):
No, Jimmy, Jimmy. Jay kicks Jimmy the vision.

Speaker 5 (51:41):
The Vision just beat Jimmy and l A. Knight on Raw.

Speaker 4 (51:46):
So typically that would mean that the USOS would win,
but I could see like l A. Knight kind of
interfering and screwing it up for the USOS.

Speaker 5 (51:56):
I'll go with that. I will say the Vision wins.

Speaker 1 (51:59):
Beach So here's the thing that I look up and
down this card.

Speaker 2 (52:04):
Heels and faces tell me about this is that's Vince
book that's Vince booking, dude, that's Vince booking, dude.

Speaker 1 (52:12):
I need to have at least a heel win something here,
and so I'm gonna go with the vision.

Speaker 5 (52:19):
I think, Yeah, I agree, because I only see one
other heel winning, uh punk and a j Lee against Seth.

Speaker 2 (52:28):
We didn't even talk about a being back. I will
say we were very excited about it, but I wasn't.
I never really cared about her that much.

Speaker 5 (52:41):
And she is a unique promo style, but I've always.

Speaker 2 (52:48):
She was a rat and god fucking all excited and
then here we go, Hey, it was what it was, dude,
I'm just listening to what's his name, Matt Riddles said
she's just a rat and schmucking found her.

Speaker 5 (52:59):
Fucking that's what you want to do?

Speaker 1 (53:01):
What it is that really wasn't even like around like
a decade ago.

Speaker 2 (53:07):
Dude, I'm just here. He's just saying what he heard.

Speaker 5 (53:10):
Real situation is that the fan bases whole is excited
that is back.

Speaker 1 (53:14):
And that's really.

Speaker 5 (53:19):
I've enjoyed the feud so far.

Speaker 4 (53:20):
I think it's been I really like what Seth and
Becky did on Raw where they're Becky is like pretending
that she wasn't going to uh fight a J and
like arguing with Seth and then kind of stuck in
the back door and took out a J.

Speaker 2 (53:32):
I thought that was Yeah, I mean, yes, I think
Seth and fucking but they.

Speaker 4 (53:38):
Really because you cried in like a little fucking bitch
and said that it was terrible and they shouldn't.

Speaker 2 (53:44):
I still I still that it shouldn't have happened. There
was just a vehicle to get to a J Lee,
And I think it's you know, I'll say this, they're
holding up there into the bargain. Somebody else isn't.

Speaker 1 (53:58):
So it's you come on the show. Yeah, I agree,
I enjoy I like, you know, they they dressed in
a certain way to show you like the type of
characters there, and I appreciate that.

Speaker 5 (54:16):
Okay, matching leather, Yeah, like.

Speaker 2 (54:22):
Okay, me and my wife were matching weather in the
bedroom all the time.

Speaker 5 (54:27):
As Cody Roads and Drew mcanti, I knew you're a
demolition fan.

Speaker 2 (54:31):
I'm demolishing something.

Speaker 1 (54:33):
It's just.

Speaker 2 (54:37):
Cody Rose and Drew mcatire, true back and tire. The
best thing of the week was him said I want
your ass. Whoops, said I want your ass. Cody wins though, Uh.

Speaker 4 (54:50):
Yeah, Cody back from his Street Fighter filming and from
having a secret child.

Speaker 5 (54:55):
Congratulations him for.

Speaker 2 (54:58):
Keeping it off the fun internet for kind of amazing.

Speaker 5 (55:01):
Actually yeah, yeah, but Cody's definitely amazing.

Speaker 1 (55:07):
No chance that Drew wins, No, he deserves it, sure,
But I mean, this is just not happening.

Speaker 2 (55:16):
Yeah, it's like at a page of Fletcher. We get it.

Speaker 1 (55:18):
Yeah exactly, it'll be good, but we get it. It
isn't gonna be great.

Speaker 2 (55:23):
And John Seen and brock lesnar is just the main event.

Speaker 1 (55:26):
Yes, yes, absolutely so.

Speaker 5 (55:31):
I laid out what my thoughts and plans were for
seeing here. I don't think this is the last time
they face each other. I think they have a rematch.

Speaker 7 (55:38):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (55:39):
And if that's the case, I think you have to
have Brock win. It's his first match back in a
couple of years. If you don't, it's like a fucking
redo of extreme rules in like twenty twelve or whatever
it was.

Speaker 5 (55:51):
When he comes back, it's seen it beat him for
no reason.

Speaker 4 (55:54):
I don't think this is like the match SummerSlam match
where just beats his ass for fucking twenty minutes straight
and seeing it it's no offense in but I do
think it's more like a souped up squash where Brock
is getting the vast majority of the offense. Seeing it
has some moments, a little you know, burst to get
the crowd into it.

Speaker 5 (56:15):
But I do think Rock carries the majority of the
offense and wins this match, and then See has to
kind of regroup and figure out how he's gonna beat
him in the rematch.

Speaker 2 (56:25):
Okay, PJ, because I got I got a theory here.

Speaker 1 (56:29):
I did. I did enjoy your theory when you presented
to us last month, Mike. But the more I think
about it, and Johnson is promo and braw, you're still time.
This is the last time, he said, this is the
last time I'm facing about the Rock too. And he
hasn't faced him yet.

Speaker 5 (56:46):
No, he said face him a second time.

Speaker 1 (56:48):
No, that wasn't his billing. Yeah, and so that's a
little different when he only has like he is.

Speaker 2 (56:58):
Money next year, He's like, you know what the phone, dude, I.

Speaker 1 (57:05):
Think I'll go with John Cena.

Speaker 2 (57:09):
Okay, So here's my theory again. John Cena, Brock Leslar
beat the piss out of each other. They're both laid
out in the ring comes out, the Rock comes out.
If you're not knowing what he's gonna do with the Rock,
you don't know what he's gonna do. He's gonna fucking
is he gonna kind of setting up like he's gonna
attack Brock, but blam, he attacks Sena. Brock wins, setting

(57:33):
up Rock and John Cena. I'm telling you it's happening.

Speaker 1 (57:38):
That's not happening.

Speaker 2 (57:39):
I got I got word from my from these streets.
It's happening. Dude.

Speaker 5 (57:43):
What is Sina do with the next payerview?

Speaker 1 (57:44):
Though? Here's why it's not happening. You don't know why
it's not happening. The Rock has a movie coming out.
The Rock then has to go film movie, a lot
of weight to do that movie. Not even that.

Speaker 2 (57:58):
I think.

Speaker 1 (58:00):
I don't think he wants to be a heel.

Speaker 2 (58:04):
He doesn't have to be a he He's gonna fight
John Cena. Dude, it's a one off thing. They're all
gonna get cheered.

Speaker 1 (58:08):
Right. He would be he would be the heel. He
was attacking John right now, John Cena. I don't know.

Speaker 4 (58:15):
That'siji if if Brock wins this, well, what do you
think Sena does in Australia because that's the next fire because.

Speaker 5 (58:24):
He's on the show.

Speaker 1 (58:27):
I know. Let me ask you a question if I'll
tell me about right, do we definitely think that Brock
is wrestling in Australia, Like if Brock loses, for example,
when do we see the bill?

Speaker 4 (58:44):
If Brock loses, then we probably see him next at
Survivor series.

Speaker 2 (58:49):
Is Brock Lesnar build for Australia or no?

Speaker 5 (58:52):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (58:53):
Okay, I don't think so great, he doesn't have I I.

Speaker 5 (58:57):
Think they're doing the rematch because I just don't know
what else you do with Sina that quick turn around
to that dude.

Speaker 2 (59:02):
You could do our truth again and they love that ship.

Speaker 5 (59:04):
No their buddies again.

Speaker 2 (59:09):
Bring Kevin Ollis back for a hot minute.

Speaker 1 (59:12):
I mean, lesnar Lesler has gotten the best of seeing
multiple times already. You need to do it again.

Speaker 2 (59:19):
He's got with help. Then John gets his dub back
and he's gonna be fighting Gracea Waller and then the Rock.
That's just that's crazy.

Speaker 5 (59:28):
That's a crazy progression.

Speaker 2 (59:31):
He's gonna put somebody over like Gracea Waller by beating him.
That works due and John c just like fighting me,
you know, he just like, like you bet in the
ring with me is a rub, right, It's like, nah, dude,
that's not how that works. Oh dude. Yeah, he definitely was.
Vince definitely explained yeah, like fucking here's our chance, and

(59:55):
they're like, He's like, hold up here for the second boys,
I okay, was that it cool? Let's talk about worlds collide.
I didn't really watch it. We'll run through it.

Speaker 1 (01:00:09):
I watched ten o'clock night.

Speaker 5 (01:00:12):
Yeah, it was like I was fighting to stay awake
at the end, but I made it.

Speaker 1 (01:00:16):
I literally fell Mike like five minutes or four doms
win and then woke up the sea that he won.

Speaker 5 (01:00:24):
Oh good, he saw the important part.

Speaker 2 (01:00:26):
So Mike, just give us a general thoughts and the
things that we should be watching if we want to
go back and watch it. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:00:32):
I've really been liking the the I was gonna say partnership,
but it's really just to be over them now. But
they're presenting still a Triple A product.

Speaker 2 (01:00:42):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (01:00:42):
And we have watched Triple Manium many times in the
past and enjoyed it. And obviously we love Lucha Underground
that had a link to Triple A. I think it's
great to be able to have so much access to
it now because you know, you you wouldn't know where
to you'd have to watch pirately a lot of this
stuff in the past, so now we could just they
stream it on YouTube and you can watch it.

Speaker 5 (01:01:03):
To me, I thought the opener was awesome.

Speaker 4 (01:01:05):
It's like kind of what you want and like a
multiman tag and lucha libre like it was just all
out chaos.

Speaker 5 (01:01:14):
And the moment of the night though, for me, was
obviously dom.

Speaker 4 (01:01:17):
Beating by Kingo. I think it was a smart move
on ww's part. For whatever reason, Mexican fans hate with
a burning passion by Kingo.

Speaker 5 (01:01:26):
They fucking hate this dude.

Speaker 1 (01:01:28):
They love Alberto del Rio.

Speaker 2 (01:01:30):
I don't know what he did something, I'm not sure,
but well, Alberto.

Speaker 1 (01:01:36):
Del Rio did a lot of bad things that they
don't approve of.

Speaker 2 (01:01:39):
They might have said some of the bad like the
supporting ice or something. I don't know.

Speaker 5 (01:01:43):
I don't know, but they fucking hate by Kingo.

Speaker 4 (01:01:46):
Uh So, Dom is essentially the baby face when they're
in Mexico.

Speaker 5 (01:01:49):
So may a lot Dom's over like crazy.

Speaker 4 (01:01:51):
It made sense to do that, and I love that
they had the bet where Ray had to put the
title around his waist and the thing that I wanted
to happen. It's probably gonna happen Ray and Dominic uh
for the title and when they do that, I I
hope they do it at a show that is actually
in Mexico for what.

Speaker 1 (01:02:06):
The reactions like.

Speaker 2 (01:02:08):
If you're if they're gonna again, fear is.

Speaker 4 (01:02:11):
Maybe they'll do one in San Diego since they're from
there to cool the San Diego Survivor series.

Speaker 1 (01:02:19):
Oh that weekend, that's when they're.

Speaker 2 (01:02:21):
Doing it, right, Yeah, probably that's a good diagnosis. On
the diagnosis, your like house like Josh Allen, you're a
miserable piece of ship. You're not.

Speaker 1 (01:02:32):
You're not. He is.

Speaker 2 (01:02:35):
Awful to see.

Speaker 5 (01:02:36):
I'm making you say something neice about Josh Allen.

Speaker 2 (01:02:38):
He's handsome, He's a handsome man, and you're awful to
look at. He looks like he would be on deul
Grossi with with the guy saying that word again, don't
don't del Grassi. What's the name of the world? Is
that the name of the show?

Speaker 1 (01:02:53):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:02:54):
I just know that the rapper guy was on it,
and fucking yeah. I saw a picture of Josh Allen
this week. He looked like fucking from high school or something.
I was likely. Should he gonna be on that show?
The hair and shows?

Speaker 1 (01:03:05):
What?

Speaker 2 (01:03:07):
Okay, let's go to no mercy, let's.

Speaker 5 (01:03:09):
Takeg You got anything to say about World's clabb I
thought it was a fun show.

Speaker 1 (01:03:13):
I do like that therey are mixing up with Okay,
here's some people from our mid card that we know
people like and they're not getting used as much as
we would like them or that they should be in WW.
So let's put them on this triple A show. Get
some interest there. The highlight of the night, though, Donnie,
don't let Mike flee you. It was Mascarrita segrata. Oh yeah,
he's always been the.

Speaker 2 (01:03:36):
Midget with a midget and it was awesome.

Speaker 1 (01:03:39):
Person. We also should say, I've got to put in
here on the agenda and Dryly is gone.

Speaker 2 (01:03:43):
Yeah, Charlotte, Charlotte's done with him.

Speaker 5 (01:03:47):
That's why. Oh other highlight of world cla doing a
Topey suicida to the demon.

Speaker 1 (01:03:55):
Ak. He just fucking threw it at him. That's funny,
that's funny.

Speaker 4 (01:03:59):
But yeah, Friday, I'm actually said about that because I
love it on Driday. But that man, I guess doesn't
like to stay in one place too long.

Speaker 1 (01:04:06):
It's very strange.

Speaker 5 (01:04:08):
That was upset because a spirit, he's a rolling stone,
you know he was.

Speaker 1 (01:04:13):
He was teem with Phoenix, and I want Phoenix to
be more. Yeah, Phoenix, we al.

Speaker 5 (01:04:21):
That Phoenix.

Speaker 2 (01:04:22):
Let's go to NXT no mersee Jay C Jane against
Lolavice sol Raca against either Candice Pray or Laney Reid
and Oba Family against Ricky Saints. Saint's gonna win. He's
gonna win at some point now.

Speaker 1 (01:04:39):
I don't think so. I could see Lola winning, but
I can't see Ricky Saints winning. Yeah, I agree, and
sol Ruca is definitely retaining.

Speaker 2 (01:04:48):
I agree Lola winds Soul wins. Oba Family retains, but
Ricky Saints beats him down afterwards. So we get over
or he'll turn, he'll turn.

Speaker 4 (01:04:58):
I actually kind of like that they're doing the speed
stuff on anexteen Now I hate that this year.

Speaker 1 (01:05:04):
Fun quick little. I like how they changed, like the color.

Speaker 4 (01:05:07):
I never actually watched them to be speed on Twitter,
so I don't know if they did that, but it's
like green and then yellow and then when you get
to one minute below it turns red in the arena.

Speaker 5 (01:05:14):
I think it's fun because it takes literally I know.

Speaker 1 (01:05:18):
That's why it was fine for Twitter because you were
doing something special for that, but on your show to
have a three minute stipulation, I don't like it.

Speaker 2 (01:05:25):
Never did Its cool, yeah, because she's like dumb ship
the Speed Tournament one.

Speaker 5 (01:05:33):
She's already championing. She's been champion, so she's facing either
canvas and read probably can't.

Speaker 2 (01:05:37):
I don't care about any of this ship, so.

Speaker 5 (01:05:41):
Wait, wait before we move on real quick, because we
were we were off when it happened.

Speaker 2 (01:05:46):
Though.

Speaker 4 (01:05:46):
The I love that they did scenea versus Sammy one
last time because that was not on my radar at all.
They did like the US Open Challenge, which was like
a fallback to Sina doing the Open Challenge and Sammy
accepting they you know, reverse the roles this time, and
that was a really great match. And now he bestowed
the US Open Challenge on the sandue, which I think
is very cool.

Speaker 1 (01:06:07):
That's fine.

Speaker 2 (01:06:07):
Yeah, I I agree, like listen and so is a
little unhinged now Solo. I like this I like, I
like more aggressive solo to begin with the goofy stuff
was fine, but let's get back to more serious with him,
especially the he's a valuable asset, I believe.

Speaker 1 (01:06:26):
And Bailey is like a psychopath now too.

Speaker 2 (01:06:28):
That's good.

Speaker 5 (01:06:29):
We like that.

Speaker 1 (01:06:29):
Well she's half and a half. Yeah, well, I mean
she was right to yell at Lire for this. That's
a baby face move from me.

Speaker 2 (01:06:38):
That's very true.

Speaker 5 (01:06:39):
Fucking knock.

Speaker 2 (01:06:40):
I will say this. I will say this. That's what
we're mentioning. Ship. That happened this week. We went to
a restaurant and I told my kids, put the napkin
over your lap, so you know, just like you know
drug right there, right, and this is like it's cold,
like have bar your napkin to cover myself with. And
I was like, my fucking guy, my friend mike it
he fell asleep and used towels. My guy, he used

(01:07:05):
towels to cover himself. And I said that I just
we were laughing, saying how I use little wash clothes
on her hands and ship like that to stay warm.
Fair and BJ and I just we're showering in blankets.
I think I had seven counted lass.

Speaker 1 (01:07:19):
Did be fair?

Speaker 5 (01:07:20):
I certainly did not use the towel. I used the
little at the end of the bed.

Speaker 2 (01:07:23):
You used a series of towels, all the white towels
strategically placed over your body. No, no, I should have
used at a hotel, you get all the different sized
white towels. He used the big one over his like
middle of his body. That he used like little towels
on his legs, and then like hankerch thick there. Then
wash clothes are his hands, like stay warm, dude, And
that's in my head, in my head, that's how he looked.

Speaker 5 (01:07:45):
Lucy was like, wow, that guy sounded very resourceful.

Speaker 2 (01:07:48):
And I told it. I said the second that was
the second coldest night he spent in his life, the
first one in our basement. She's like, what are we
talking about. I was like, never mind, never mind, go ahead.
Pat results For those.

Speaker 1 (01:08:06):
That don't know, every first of the month you put
a poll on patreon dot com slash ring rest Radio
and if you support us, you can vote, need to comment.
This month's poll question courtesy of Mike Keori. Which event
should w W bring back? Because they brought back Restless.
This is before we have got so we had a

(01:08:28):
bunch of choices. You guys want to take any guests
from your memory bank?

Speaker 2 (01:08:32):
Some old pay per views Great Balls of Fire wins
because of the nostalgia.

Speaker 1 (01:08:37):
Pop somehow didn't make the cut.

Speaker 2 (01:08:40):
It's wild.

Speaker 5 (01:08:41):
That's cowardly.

Speaker 1 (01:08:42):
It really is, dude.

Speaker 2 (01:08:43):
You knew what was gonna happen, and you knew three
people were gonna get real l L.

Speaker 1 (01:08:48):
Well only three people commented.

Speaker 2 (01:08:49):
I mean, I don't know that, but I knew it
in my heart.

Speaker 1 (01:08:53):
No one even voted for others, so no one even
put that in.

Speaker 2 (01:08:58):
Do you won't even say? It's still it's what you're
at the hold on, you're at the grocery store blowing
me up, texting me, I don't even start.

Speaker 1 (01:09:10):
I forgot I did that. Okay, since you guys suck
in first place? Is King of the Ring in your house? Now?
They've had him in your house?

Speaker 5 (01:09:23):
Yeah, but they had King of the Ring last year.

Speaker 1 (01:09:25):
That wasn't the King of Let's be honest, it really
wasn't King of the Yeah, the second was no mercy.

Speaker 5 (01:09:35):
They do that in the next.

Speaker 1 (01:09:37):
Yeah, it's still made the cut.

Speaker 2 (01:09:39):
You should have got do you want to eat dinner with?

Speaker 5 (01:09:44):
How many times can we possibly do.

Speaker 2 (01:09:46):
That Frayman who wants who do you want to eat?
KMC with change it just a little bit each time.

Speaker 1 (01:09:53):
Colin says no mercy. Hector Guerrero Toler younger says no mercy,
and you know Perfume wrestled with Maurice Corey. Linky said
they still do a version of King of the Rings.
I'm playing Army Geddon. I'd love to see that eight
man helmet cell again. It was a six man, but
eight man created and Als Contreras has our final comment says,

(01:10:14):
I know a lot of the matches lose some lust
or if they come around only one time a year,
but the King of the Ring is a whole ass
tournament and tournament's rule and we have ringers. Radio endorsed
that comment.

Speaker 2 (01:10:25):
We live by tournaments, We live and die by them. Honestly.
I do so much bracketing in my like normal life
with the kids now because just these things more fun
that in the Monster Truck game they have like tournament racing,
and Donny's like, bot bracket, that's a bracket. I was like, yeah, dude,
that's a bracket. He's like, fuck it. I just like
understands the idea already it's like, yeah, dude, you are

(01:10:46):
going to gamble a lot.

Speaker 1 (01:10:47):
Right, brackets are the best uh Patreon of Common Slash
Ring Russ Radio. Not only do you have poles here,
you can hear the free version of our podcast. Your
early access to Curry Retro is like weird the Al
Yankovic story, which is.

Speaker 2 (01:11:01):
True, which is a true biopic. I don't know why.

Speaker 1 (01:11:05):
The Naked Gun, Suburban Commando, our fantasy football draft and
the best Pokemon Ever bracket right now, but most importantly,
you can sign it for the next month's bracket, taking
place Tuesday, October fourteenth, six pm Eastern. We're gonna determine
the best Halloween costume of all time?

Speaker 2 (01:11:20):
Yeah, baby, I like that. I like the idea of like,
are we gonna go simple with like a ghost right,
or we gonna go a little moves driving it like
Michael Myers? Or what about justin Lake King Diamond and
harassing pedophiles or looking like one? Okay, you can look
on fine, but I will actually harass a real one. Okay,

(01:11:42):
so it's true. It's just true story. Okay, guys, but listen,
it's time for us. Did you guys see the new
Naked Gun yet or no, not yet.

Speaker 1 (01:11:49):
No, that's gonna be a retro and like, no one
has seen it that I've asked.

Speaker 2 (01:11:53):
Everyone was like, can't wait to see it. Everyone said
to me, I can't wait to see it. No one
I know has He's don't really.

Speaker 5 (01:11:59):
Go out on my way to watch new movies too often.

Speaker 1 (01:12:02):
Sounds good. George Say was good, George Son was good.
He's he's retroing it. Okay, you'll see it in a
couple months.

Speaker 2 (01:12:09):
God great, great. I might do my notes now. I
won't remember any of them by the time we get there.

Speaker 5 (01:12:15):
You be like, yeah, yeah, that part.

Speaker 2 (01:12:17):
Time for something strange in the latest report.

Speaker 6 (01:12:24):
You gotta call dirt sheet buster.

Speaker 5 (01:12:28):
Just liesna misby sours.

Speaker 2 (01:12:31):
You gotta call dirt shoot buster, scripoop scoomoo skipper stoop.

Speaker 5 (01:12:38):
No laes no track shutop screwoop.

Speaker 1 (01:12:45):
Purpose source. That's interesting to.

Speaker 5 (01:12:47):
Know, all right, be g it's time for the best
segment of the week to say we're like coward leaves
and we get to just hang out and have fun.

Speaker 1 (01:13:00):
It's dirt shey busters. Youhped Hell yeah. I love when
Donnie leaves. I hate him yeah, and I hate the
dirt cheats ready too.

Speaker 5 (01:13:08):
So it's it's really fitting that one thing that we
hate leaves and another thing that we hate arrives. For
the segment, we're gonna start with something from bodyslam dot net.

Speaker 1 (01:13:19):
A top NXT star is gonna get called up one day.

Speaker 5 (01:13:23):
I hope you don't want to know when?

Speaker 1 (01:13:26):
Do they at least tell us who?

Speaker 4 (01:13:28):
Yes, Cornerbodyslam Dow still fully plans to move Jordan Grace
to the main roster. However, the timeline for a call
up was delayed earlier this year. Sources say the move
isn't happening right away, but it's definitely still planned for
the future.

Speaker 1 (01:13:41):
Here's a quote.

Speaker 4 (01:13:42):
W still fully intends to call Jordan Grace up to
the main roster. However, the timeline for Grace's call up
is pushed back earlier this year, and sots indicate that
is not imminent, but it is still in the works.
M Yes, I think one of your top stars will
get called up eventually.

Speaker 1 (01:13:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:13:57):
But kind of lost in all this is the fact
that they did report pretty long ago, uh that she
was getting called up, which was wrong.

Speaker 5 (01:14:07):
She did not get Maybe she won't get called.

Speaker 4 (01:14:11):
Up based on their track record, here. Next one is
also from body slam dot net. G how great was
Shinsk on SmackDown? Have really okay? Body slamm dot Net
is now reporting that Shinsky Nakamura may be ready for
his return to the ring. He may appear tonight during

(01:14:33):
the Big Snackdown in Virginia, the big one, the Big
smack Down. I don't was it any bigger than like
typical SmackDown.

Speaker 5 (01:14:42):
It had brock on it.

Speaker 4 (01:14:43):
I guess the Big SmackDown. It's like a SmackDown, only
bigger lot of stuff in it. Uh yeah, So what
what was Shinsky ready to return from?

Speaker 1 (01:14:56):
Too? I would like to know that information? Injured?

Speaker 5 (01:14:59):
I don't know where has he been?

Speaker 4 (01:15:01):
Is he taking time off? Nobody told us, but he
certainly did not return on SmackDown. Yeah maybe, Uh that
was in flightful. Stephanie Vicaire is like Transformers.

Speaker 1 (01:15:15):
Okay, now, I remember you doing this one time in
the past. I'm assuming gonna be the same thing.

Speaker 4 (01:15:21):
The w W universe was scratching its head on September eighth,
when Monday Night Raw abruptly canceled the contract sign between EO.
Sky and Stephanie Vacaire for the vacant Women's World Championship
with no explanation.

Speaker 5 (01:15:32):
During the broadcast, fans without the wonder where was the
fuck what? Seohn Ross staff.

Speaker 4 (01:15:38):
And Flightful addressed the situation during his post Raw show
and revealed that even people backstage were in the dark.

Speaker 1 (01:15:44):
Turned the fucking light on.

Speaker 4 (01:15:47):
So I had talent telling me they didn't know what
was going on, Like Raw talent telling me they didn't
know what was happening with Stephanie Vcaire.

Speaker 5 (01:15:54):
There was confusion. Despite the mystery, w OF officials continued
to assist that insist that the care is still scheduled
to compete at Wressell Palooza in September twentieth. According to SAP,
the internal messaging hasn't changed. When I ask people then
w W what what the deal is? What's the deal
with the Quick they were like, oh, well, she's still
doing the match.

Speaker 4 (01:16:15):
That's what we were all told today that she would
be out the show doing the match for Wressell Paloza.

Speaker 5 (01:16:20):
Sat added that there may be more going on behind
the scenes, and w w' is letting han there's probably
more than meets the eye, but that the match is
going to happen. Yeah, he said, it just like that,
and then he said he was a robot in disguise.

Speaker 1 (01:16:36):
It was crazy.

Speaker 5 (01:16:39):
I mean, is it?

Speaker 1 (01:16:40):
Definitely? Sean was not testing like some random worker, Like,
what's going on? I DK?

Speaker 2 (01:16:49):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:16:49):
Uh, can I actually make an argument here? I would
say there was less than meets the eye because she
literally showed.

Speaker 1 (01:16:56):
Up the next night nothing happened.

Speaker 5 (01:16:59):
Yeah, the was less than meets the eye to why
she was absent.

Speaker 1 (01:17:02):
Out raw crazy? Wow?

Speaker 4 (01:17:06):
Uh you remember from the honorary dirty buss of the
week favorite of ours, Wade Barrett. Wait, yes, I believe
so long ago that's what I thought, probably when he
was bad News Barrett at the time. Corn to pw Insider,
Wade Barrett is no longer part of ww's commentary rotation.

(01:17:31):
It was noted that Wade bart will be off the
road going forward, as his time as a commentator on
the main roster shows has come to an end.

Speaker 5 (01:17:37):
Did you see when this was going on in social media?

Speaker 1 (01:17:40):
Oh? I saw this?

Speaker 5 (01:17:42):
Were you devastated when you saw this?

Speaker 1 (01:17:44):
I was very upset.

Speaker 4 (01:17:45):
I was very upset too, because I'm like, he's to me,
he's like the best announcer there is in wrestling right now.

Speaker 5 (01:17:51):
And yeah, so it was very sad.

Speaker 4 (01:17:55):
But then Wade Barrett gets on Twitter and he says,
I usually ignore BS reports like.

Speaker 5 (01:18:02):
This, but it's causing needless hate to be spewed towards
people I work with.

Speaker 4 (01:18:06):
Wow, it must be people saying they employed Michael Cole
and he fucking blows and they're gonna get rid of
the Uh that's what I would have said.

Speaker 5 (01:18:15):
Uh, kindly given me a couple of weeks off for
personal time booked nine months ago.

Speaker 1 (01:18:22):
I'm back to business as usual, A complete non story
the end.

Speaker 5 (01:18:28):
Yeah. Yeah, that he put that PTO in. Oh yeah,
uh so totally owned that report.

Speaker 1 (01:18:35):
Amazing report, horrible job.

Speaker 5 (01:18:40):
Uh Andrade's WW release wasn't his doing?

Speaker 1 (01:18:47):
WHOA Okay this is doing is a multi part report.
Let's get into it.

Speaker 4 (01:18:55):
The sun departure of Andrade from w was a result
of a disciplinary thing that occurs at a television tapion
a couple of weeks ago, according to a new report
from Dave Meltzer on Wrestlmserver Radio that does sound exactly
like a report from Dave Meltzer. Speaking on wrestlem Server Radio,
Meltzer provided details on the situation and I quote, I
don't know the whole story could have just stopped there.

Speaker 1 (01:19:16):
Then, but he doesn't. But I do know it was
a discipline thing.

Speaker 4 (01:19:19):
It was not his doing at all. You know, it
wasn't like, oh, he's not being used, well, so he's unhappy.
I'm positive he's unhappy. But it wasn't him asking out.
He said, it's not him being unhappy, but I'm positive
he's Meltzer continued to explaining the timeline of the events.
What happened was a couple of weeks ago.

Speaker 1 (01:19:39):
They put them in.

Speaker 4 (01:19:40):
There is actually a story from a couple of weeks
ago that just broke today. I mean, he wasn't fired
until today, but a couple of weeks ago there was
a disciplinary thing.

Speaker 5 (01:19:48):
And all I know is it was at a TV
shoot and he was told to go home.

Speaker 1 (01:19:52):
And he's not been used since he reported.

Speaker 4 (01:19:54):
And when we when he was sent home, you don't
hear guys being sent home that often anymore, like he
did back in the day. The feeling when he got
sent home was that it must be serious because you
don't hear about that. The specific nature of disciplinary issue is.

Speaker 5 (01:20:07):
Not yet known. Uh And the quote and I was
told it was not drug related, It was not alcohol related.

Speaker 4 (01:20:13):
It was not marriage related. Melter added, whatever that means,
ruling out some of the common reasons such an issue.
He's not married yet, so, uh, nobody would tell me
what it was. But it was enough to be sent home.

Speaker 5 (01:20:24):
I'm not surprising that nobody would tell him what it was.

Speaker 1 (01:20:27):
Uh. So that's first part. Here's another part that look,
before you go on, that's a lot of information to
all of a sudden have also should go that. Now,
all of a sudden, you get that info and you
didn't report anything.

Speaker 5 (01:20:40):
And he really still has like no information because he's
saying he has no idea what it is, Okay, but
this info, Yeah, dam just don't understand.

Speaker 1 (01:20:51):
I didn't understand him saying it's not his doing like
that doesn't I don't get that.

Speaker 4 (01:20:58):
If he got sent home for something disciplinary, it is
his doing, right right. Dave Meltzer spoke about the situation
on Russem Server Radio, pointing out that WW had wanted
Andreda to be a part of the Triple A project,
but he didn't take part the Triple A Project, just
Triple A. While breaking down the details of Andreda being

(01:21:18):
told to go home, Meltzer brought up the missed opportunity
and how it stood out during the discussions around his release.

Speaker 1 (01:21:23):
Here's a quote.

Speaker 4 (01:21:24):
I know of things, but I don't think that this
had to do with that. I know they wanted him
in the Triple A project. I'm not sure that he was.

Speaker 1 (01:21:32):
You know, he didn't do it. So there's that.

Speaker 5 (01:21:35):
So you can read into what you want. You know,
I don't, but I don't know that that has anything
to do with it or not. Thanks man. Okay, So
there's Meltz's part. Now we have.

Speaker 4 (01:21:47):
According to a report from PW Insider, the story of
Androte's wellness policy violation had been circulating within the w
roster since August and reservice again on Saturday.

Speaker 5 (01:21:56):
The report ads that there was talkbackstage.

Speaker 4 (01:21:58):
That Andrede left the United States for South America and
stopped responding to ww's attempts to reach him in recent weeks. Additionally,
a rumor claiming that Andreti turned down a request to
work with Triple A has been debunked by three separate
sources who confirmed that no such request was ever made
since Andreida was never part of Triple A's pitches.

Speaker 1 (01:22:18):
So can I tell you what's interesting about that? Because
I just googled, you know, because I had the recollection
of something so at Google. When they announced the Triple
A acquisition at Wrestling in the weekend. You know who
is on stage for that acquisition announcement, Penta Phoenix, and

(01:22:44):
he's right behind Triple He hates it though.

Speaker 4 (01:22:49):
But so the first part of this that's funny is
that Peter Insider says, Uh, he did fail wellness policy violation.
He was told to leave, and then he was in
South America and didn't respond for weeks to ww So
again back to Mesta's originally thing. That means that it's
Androti's doing that he got released, didn't respond to w

(01:23:11):
B for weeks. Uh, and then his report about Triple
A is just completely debunked.

Speaker 1 (01:23:16):
And not true whatsoever.

Speaker 2 (01:23:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:23:19):
So he's all for three. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:23:20):
So great job man, really good stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:23:24):
Number one journalist, yep, a lot of years.

Speaker 5 (01:23:26):
Being real good at this.

Speaker 1 (01:23:29):
Uh, you're right for the COUDI gras. I am, Mike,
but I'm wondering if you have something about aj Lee here.

Speaker 5 (01:23:39):
I do not have something about aj here.

Speaker 1 (01:23:41):
Okay, yes, if I'm so. Last week, Ajle called the
promo introducing herself to the universes. She's been gone for
ten years, so it's like, okay to tell people who
the fuck you are because a lot of people probably
have no clue who you are. M H. And she's
in her promo saying, you know, I have the get
some therapy blah blah blah, and the crowds start to

(01:24:03):
chant therapy. Yeah. The next day, Meltz proceeds to say
that aj Lee incited the crowd to chant the word therapy, right,
as if it was a known historical wrestling chant that
everyone does every show, yes, and not some doing of

(01:24:28):
just the fans. Right.

Speaker 4 (01:24:29):
So all it happened is that A j was telling
her story of what she went through and said she
went to therapy, and then the crowd cheered for her
and they started chanting therapy, and aj like as this
is happening, She's like, oh, you know, that's so nice,
and that she was like happy about her whatever.

Speaker 5 (01:24:47):
She did not like guide the crowd to chant.

Speaker 1 (01:24:50):
No, No, absolutely not, it's just a normal.

Speaker 2 (01:24:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:24:54):
She passed over it im to start chanting. I do
remember you showing me this.

Speaker 4 (01:24:59):
I didn't put in here because it's not tightly a report,
but this is he does this just as badly as
his reporting, where he will just say random shit on
his show and pass it off as fact, and it's
just simply not like completely. I don't know if he
I don't know if it's either him doing it on
purpose as a slight to WW or he really doesn't

(01:25:19):
have an understanding of what he's watching, or like a
combination of both.

Speaker 1 (01:25:24):
I think it's a combination of both. I think it's
a combination. I think he can't understand anything.

Speaker 4 (01:25:28):
He's fucking yeah, he's out of it, man, all right,
KOUDI gras the Rock is closing in on a deal
to wrestle at WrestleMania forty three.

Speaker 5 (01:25:40):
Seak oh m hmm, okay, coronell last Wrestlings of renewsletter.

Speaker 4 (01:25:47):
Negotiations are underway to bring Dwayne the Rock Johnson to
the main event of WrestleMania.

Speaker 5 (01:25:52):
Forty three in Saudi Arabia.

Speaker 4 (01:25:54):
The event is set to be the first WrestleMania held
outside the United States, with the General Entertainment Authority of
Saudi Arabia involved in the organizing of the show. Wrestling
Observer editor Dave Meltzer reported that sources close to the GEA,
led by Turkey Lashk have indicated that the show is
official and that talks with Johnson are advancing.

Speaker 1 (01:26:12):
Melter, I'm sorry to stop you. What you what they
wrote that you just said means that Meltz has sources.

Speaker 5 (01:26:23):
Yes, yes, that's.

Speaker 1 (01:26:29):
Meltzer.

Speaker 4 (01:26:29):
Note that those close to the matter believe the deal
is close to being finalized, though WW has not confirmed
this information. Meltzer added that the financial structure of the
event may depend heavily on Johnson's participation.

Speaker 1 (01:26:40):
Here's a quote.

Speaker 4 (01:26:41):
The impression is that the final payment number for the
show will be affected by whether or not they get
the Rock in the main event. The idea is that
the individual payoff for Johnson will be multiple times that
of any pro wrestler for any event in history.

Speaker 8 (01:26:52):
Meltzer wrote, Okay, whoa, so that's that report Sean Ross
staff report on Fight for selected. A higher up within
w told any talk about potential performers for the event
is purely hypothetical.

Speaker 5 (01:27:05):
Certainly believe because you're well over a year out right,
give me a break year and a half out. Uh.

Speaker 4 (01:27:10):
The source of poorly referenced a report suggesting the Rock
could receive the highest pay day in wrestling history.

Speaker 1 (01:27:15):
For an appearance.

Speaker 4 (01:27:16):
It was clarified that no discussions have taken place. It
was also reported that Stone Cold Steve Austin has not
been approached for a match yet. This directly contradicts the
report and the rest Dave Meltzer, who claim has sources
with sources within the Saudi General Entertainment Authority, told him
negotiations with Dwayne Johnson were advancing and close to being finalized.
So yes, the Melts is claiming he has sources within

(01:27:40):
the Saudi General Entertainment Authority. I would bet nobody who
is part of that knows who the fuck Dave Meltzer is.

Speaker 1 (01:27:48):
Melts who complains about everything in Saudi Arabia.

Speaker 5 (01:27:52):
MH.

Speaker 1 (01:27:54):
But that you're gonna have sources there, give me a break,
and you don't. You had all these sources and you
had no fucking clue this deal was going down.

Speaker 4 (01:28:07):
Yeah, nobody knew anything until that snapchat video came out.

Speaker 1 (01:28:14):
Then all of a sudden says all these things, and can.

Speaker 9 (01:28:17):
Speculate that based on history, Saudi Arabia has paid people
like Sean Michael is gonna take a triple h Kane
to wrestle a fucking match for a big payday, Goldberg,
it's all ship.

Speaker 4 (01:28:30):
We could have made up on the spot, like easily,
but yeah, that is the guy won't even place a
fucking simple phone call to confirm like somebody being dead
in America. And I'm supposed to believe that he's reaching
out to Saudi Arabia.

Speaker 5 (01:28:44):
Yeah, I bet he's phone in Saudi Arabia.

Speaker 1 (01:28:49):
That's a great cup, Like thank you.

Speaker 5 (01:28:52):
I don't think he even know like the country fucking
zip code member that you had to put in to
be able to.

Speaker 1 (01:28:58):
Reach Saudi Arabia. To be honest with you, it's fucking clueless.

Speaker 2 (01:29:02):
How we do?

Speaker 4 (01:29:03):
Beg street Fighter, Alright, Beg, it's that time, buddy, It's
time for Fantasy.

Speaker 5 (01:29:19):
Vader time.

Speaker 4 (01:29:19):
Hell yeah, boy meets World Triple R Season forty one,
to be fantasy. I got Big Wrestle Paloes a weekend
coming up, so some things could change.

Speaker 5 (01:29:30):
But here's where right now.

Speaker 4 (01:29:33):
In tenth place last with negative sixty seven point five,
Donald would.

Speaker 1 (01:29:45):
That's insane.

Speaker 5 (01:29:47):
Negative sixty seven point five. Holy shit, it's almost all
from l A night.

Speaker 1 (01:29:57):
That's crazy. This guys sucks. Uh.

Speaker 5 (01:30:01):
In ninth with negative twenty two point five, George Cruz.

Speaker 1 (01:30:07):
Deserves it. What do you think about that deserves it?

Speaker 5 (01:30:13):
Uh? And he's with negative ten.

Speaker 4 (01:30:15):
Somebody deserves a lot more in life, I would say,
who will no doubt be making a move up the
leader board in the very in near future, big money Mike,
Oh my god, you know it's you know, Julia needs
to wrestle more.

Speaker 1 (01:30:29):
Yeah. I hate what they're done with Julia.

Speaker 5 (01:30:31):
I don't know what they're doing with Julia doesn't make
any sense. Like I thought she was gonna give me
an easy win against a Beefanus bay that, but she
just beat her up and they even have I'm like,
come on, just have the match, give me my ten points.

Speaker 1 (01:30:43):
Yep.

Speaker 5 (01:30:44):
But yeah, not not a great start.

Speaker 1 (01:30:46):
Wow, is that the longest you've ever been? And negatives? Maybe?
I don't know. I don't know.

Speaker 5 (01:30:51):
I gotta bounce back, gotta do it. At least I'm
not negative sixty seven point five, that's what I have
to Sallison.

Speaker 1 (01:30:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:30:59):
In seventh, two point five ever since godfree, it's a
bad scores.

Speaker 5 (01:31:05):
In six with five Reggie Gill, He's normally a lot.

Speaker 1 (01:31:09):
Better than that. Yeah, what's going on this booking?

Speaker 5 (01:31:12):
Wow? In fifth with twelve point five, the guy who
just picked up a bunch of people off the scrap
heap every the draft is over, Jim shop up. I
think that goes to show you what's going on with
this fucking season.

Speaker 1 (01:31:21):
It's insane. Wow, he got screwed by Bronson Reeds. Holy shit.

Speaker 5 (01:31:26):
Yeah, if he didn't have him things. Pretty much all
the points he has is thanks to Sammy's Ay, that
was a great pickup.

Speaker 1 (01:31:33):
Yeah, that's crazy. Usually Sammy's awful with this.

Speaker 5 (01:31:36):
Yeah, he got him just before the winning the US
Championship and getting the US Open challenge.

Speaker 1 (01:31:42):
Yep.

Speaker 5 (01:31:43):
Uh and fourth with seventeen point five Austin Red maybe
they're both read makes you.

Speaker 4 (01:31:49):
Think in third with thirty five bg, Wow, you're in
the running again.

Speaker 5 (01:31:58):
Would you go back to back?

Speaker 1 (01:32:00):
No, definitely not. I have a question for you, Mike Penta.
Not yesterday, but the week before he lost, right, yep,
and then he won yesterday. I think so. Yeah. So
they're doing a lot of fifty fifty booking with him.
I thought they would pushing him a little harder.

Speaker 4 (01:32:16):
Yeah, I mean, he was at the Triple A Show.
I wonder if they're gonna build him up to face Dom.

Speaker 1 (01:32:23):
Yeah, but those matches don't count.

Speaker 5 (01:32:25):
Yes, if it's on YouTube.

Speaker 1 (01:32:28):
Wait, Triple A World counted, they counted, yes, Oh, okay, okay.

Speaker 4 (01:32:34):
Triple Madia counter that I got negative points for Ludwig Kaiser,
so I got rid of him.

Speaker 1 (01:32:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:32:38):
Smart Uh in second with forty five.

Speaker 4 (01:32:42):
Mango still doing well with a unique drafting strategy. Mm
hmm averse with forty seven point five drafted by me.

Speaker 1 (01:32:52):
Ski should have drafted from himself. Yeaheez, how does it happened? Yeah,
but you's gonna lose. Seth Rollins probably gonna lose.

Speaker 5 (01:33:04):
Oh, that's true, so you might be. You might be
in first by the end.

Speaker 1 (01:33:07):
Of I'm feeling pretty good. I need Stephane the win,
and that's that's the key.

Speaker 5 (01:33:11):
That's true. That'd be huge if Stephanie wins.

Speaker 1 (01:33:14):
Yep, man, I'm in the running, all right. Uh. Email Time.

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from Dan dumb Man marsh subject.

Speaker 5 (01:33:49):
Maybe you guys can discuss this. Yeah, maybe we can
and we will right now.

Speaker 1 (01:33:54):
Hi.

Speaker 5 (01:33:55):
As you know, NXT was at the Met in Philadelphia
two weeks ago. I'm an usher the Met, although I
did not work NFT.

Speaker 4 (01:34:02):
Two nights later, a couple of people were just mocking wrestling,
calling it fake. Try to tell them it's not fake
in the way that they do things real. It's really
real and they can get hurt if they're not careful.

Speaker 5 (01:34:13):
They wouldn't even call the wrestlers athletes. I had to
just walk away. What's wrong with these fucking people? And
how do you deal with them?

Speaker 1 (01:34:20):
Thanks?

Speaker 5 (01:34:21):
Guys, I really enjoy bring rest Radio all the best.
Thanks Dan.

Speaker 1 (01:34:25):
Thanks.

Speaker 4 (01:34:27):
I think this is like I feel like we've probably
discussed this at various times over the years of like
how do you deal with people, you know, kind of
clowning on wrestling as a wrestler thing and for starters.
I really don't give a shit when people do it,
because you know, it doesn't do anything to me. But
I think the main thing that like, I think the

(01:34:47):
best thing you could ever come back at somebody with this, like, oh, wrestling,
that fake shit, Like uh yeah, Like every fucking movie
or TV show you watch is like do you think
that's really happening?

Speaker 1 (01:34:58):
No?

Speaker 4 (01:34:58):
Is it predeterminis or a script written? Yes, but it's
also unlike any of that stuff. And it's like a sport,
uh sports entertainment because these are real athletes, and these
guys and girls do stuff that normal people can't do
and that a lot of athletes can't do, and they
do put their bodies on the line, and they are
wrestling multiple times a week a lot of the time,

(01:35:19):
and you know, they you know, not the schedules are
not as taxing as they once were, which is a
good thing for the wrestlers, but still you're risking injury.
You're you know, one thing goes wrong and it could
be catastrophic. Uh So it's an art, it's a TV show,
but it also is you know, a legitimate athletic thing

(01:35:39):
that these people are doing. So I would I would
argue that wrestlers are, you know, among the most impressive
entertainers there are, because not only do you have to
have the acting element, but you have to have the
athletic element too.

Speaker 1 (01:35:50):
M Yeah, it's it's a fucking crazy r form that
they have. I always hated when someone would say it's fake,
because it's not fake. It's staged, right, that's not fake. Predetermined, yes,
but even predetermined. It's not like state it's it's is

(01:36:12):
a play fake. No, they're performing right there in front
of you. It's not fake. It's just that's the script, right,
that's what they're doing. The athleticism in some capacity is unparalleled,
Like there's pro athletes that try inter wrestling and they
can't do it right. The things that they do is

(01:36:34):
absolutely saying. That's part of what always drew me the
wrestling was the athleticism kind of first and foremost, and
then you kind of get captivated by the characters and
the storylines. You know, you hope that it captures your attention.
But the athletic feats, the you know, the fitness, the bodybuilding,
all that, it's fucking incredible. And what I think is

(01:36:56):
awesome about it going on to ESPN and how they've
had such a great relationship with ESPN, even Lucha on
Ground have people on ESPN at one point, is that
it does eventually start to same with Fox. Having that
deal with Fox and you're seeing it on an NFL
Sunday mainstream, right, it's mainstream, but you start to legitimize

(01:37:16):
that and you get people familiar with the characters. Having
it on Netflix is a huge deal. Having a show
some people might not like it, but having a show
like Unreal, which to me never it was exactly what
I thought that was going to be. As far as
behind the scenes, there's more exactly a documentary. Yeah, it's

(01:37:37):
like their twenty four to seven series or three sixty
five whatever they thought they had, where you're just telling
the real stories behind the people. So seeing something like
I think it was like episode three with Bianca Belle
Air and Chelsea Green and kind of their their story
leading into a specific event of how important it was
for Chelsea Green to be a survivor series and she

(01:37:57):
didn't make the card and how she has to improve
from that and all these things and work in the character,
and you know, Bianca Bella are making her own attire
for every show like these things are important, like her
and Montesport has to show on Hulu, miss and Misses
like these are all huge things that you know, the
bell shows like people like to shoot on them for

(01:38:20):
having that, but it is an important thing of trying
to get to a new audience and everything just will
eventually come round. So yeah, they'll be fucking ignorant people.
There are people w don't like NFL, don't like sports, right,
so the word fake is very stupid and shit, it's
going to be ignorant people.

Speaker 2 (01:38:38):
But we know what that we know what it is.

Speaker 1 (01:38:40):
It's not fake. People have died in the ring doing wrestling.
People have been paralyzed from wrestling, they get legitimately hurt.
Bianco Bella Air is still not fucking wrestling as a
broken finger from one of the greatest matches you'll ever see.
It's just staged. So you know, it's just it wasn't. Yeah,
but it's fake.

Speaker 5 (01:38:58):
Yep, ignore the hater.

Speaker 1 (01:39:00):
The best thing is that you can, you know, if
you're ever in debate, you pull up the fucking clip
of the Undertaker and I think it was Vader right.
They were overseas in like the nineties, yea, and the
guy said it and like.

Speaker 2 (01:39:14):
Went off.

Speaker 1 (01:39:14):
It was fucking amazing, and I was just sitting.

Speaker 5 (01:39:16):
There like.

Speaker 1 (01:39:18):
It's fucking great. I love that clip. Yep. Next email
comes from Austin Russell Loyalty and respect Kane, Yo, you
rusty sons of bitches. Me and a friend were discussing
Kane the other day and he said that Kane should
be more remembered as a tag wrestler rather than a

(01:39:39):
singles I thought it was interesting. I thought it was
interesting because a lot of my fondest memories of Kane
has been his work in teams from the Brothers Destruction
of the Team with Xbox and RVD Team hell know,
and his best ever worked as corporate came with Big
Show in Case. His career and tag matches were great.
Just wanted your guys thoughts on this and root ps

(01:40:03):
go Broncos.

Speaker 4 (01:40:04):
That that was one of the worst ways to lose
I've ever seen, by the way. That was such a
bad ball they got they got scammed.

Speaker 1 (01:40:12):
That's sound crazy. I don't hate the Broncos, but growing
up I was more of a Packers fan because far
I was Broncos because of l Way. Yeah, I mean
that was awesome and I love Torel Davis and.

Speaker 5 (01:40:26):
H and McCaffrey rod Smith. Literally when the Bills sucked,
the Broncos were like the team.

Speaker 1 (01:40:32):
I like the team was a good So Kane's career, man,
I mean, one of the legendary careers, one of the
most iconic characters. I had a friend growing up who
Kane was his guy, right, his like one of his
a L screen names was about Kane, and I think

(01:40:53):
it was like the big re machine of something. But like,
just what a bizarre career. Also just the things that
they did with that character, because it was just it
was like, whatever you want to do with his character,
will fucking do it, because whatever, it's Kane and I
there were a lot of times where I felt bed

(01:41:14):
for what he had to do.

Speaker 5 (01:41:15):
I mean, he was to do everything though, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:41:19):
I mean I was there when he unmasked and at
MSG in two thousand and three. Man, I me and
my friend's going in so hype for that moment.

Speaker 5 (01:41:29):
And what big was like this little tiny bit of
hair in the bed.

Speaker 1 (01:41:33):
The tiny hair, it was just I couldn't, Like, you
look back and it's like, I can't believe that's what
you thought would work.

Speaker 4 (01:41:42):
He looked like hairy and home alone too. When he
his head in the toilet was absolutely and it's just
so weird. And I remember then eventually he was It's like,
all right, well.

Speaker 1 (01:41:51):
We can't have him look like this, he has to
shave his head and he had his fucking eye. The
contact in his eye then made smooth. Yeah, he had
this little towel. Well then he had all these different attires.
But to me, like the best Kane was like the
O G. But then there was one one that was great.
In two thousand. He had an attire it was like

(01:42:12):
the reverse was like mostly black. Yeah, it was so
cool and I really enjoyed that when I first was
getting into wrestling, like really into it, as you know,
because the wrestling in the two thousand video game Late
Night and nine. So then that is the tail end
almost of like kne Xbox and then Xbox turns on

(01:42:32):
him right and there was one of the first raws
of two thousand Kine comes back, and so that was
like really the first time me like really seeing can
I see him Like on some pay reviews, this is like,
holy shit, Cane his back. Everyone's flipping out such an
It's still one of the best moments in raw history.
He just had such ano.

Speaker 2 (01:42:53):
I remember.

Speaker 1 (01:42:53):
I remember the whole like May nineteenth thing that they
were doing for like the movie. It was so he
just had so many bad Yeah, so just so many
us and downs. I wasn't watching, I remember upset. I
wasn't watching during the time, but he did the hell
on the Cell against the Undertaker. I think it was
Helen Cell, but I remember like that was one of always,
like the dream matches my friends. Yeah, I wasn't watching

(01:43:16):
any time, but one of the dream matches with my
friends always like fantasy booking things, was Undertaker was Kane
hel himself? I'm sure it wasn't Ye, the corporate Kane, Like,
come on, we hate that.

Speaker 5 (01:43:28):
Hard part victory.

Speaker 1 (01:43:29):
We got hard fart victory. But then there's moments like
Team hell No was fucking Yeah. I probably rewatched those
like every year and a half, all those segments. So
I do think though that just in like the arc
of Kane, I I would still have him as a
singles wrestler, just because of how he came in all

(01:43:52):
the feuds with the Undertaker, even though I understand like
the most memory moments or with a tag team, but
like the debut is one of the greatest moments of
all time. Yeah, they just he never really got his due.
He was champion for a fucking day.

Speaker 5 (01:44:12):
Yep, like I always I still remember that as a kid,
like Austin winning it back the next day.

Speaker 1 (01:44:17):
Yeah, Like people don't like to talk about Stonehold like that,
like if John Cend that, Faulk fulkn did that, Triple
As did that. I was fine with it right back then.
It was just that was Stonehold, right, That's what happened.
And it was almost because like the night before, it
was like a fluke, but like I was like, what
they had it for a fucking day, give me a break.
I always felt like he got shafted, and I was

(01:44:38):
absolutely upset when he kind of got more of his
due in a championship run when he was unmasked, because
I like mass King right, he should.

Speaker 5 (01:44:46):
Have had a run in like two thousand and one,
So yeah, I do.

Speaker 1 (01:44:49):
I remember watching the Royal Rumble two thousand and one
and it was just so obvious He's like fucking Michael Myers. Man,
it was unbelievable, and it was so obvious that Stonefold
was going to win that. When it got to the
final too, I was like, oh, I right, King just went.
I saw m King. But then we never would have
gotten that incredible hardcore match wrestling in seventeen I love
so much.

Speaker 4 (01:45:08):
Yeah, I don't view Kane as just a singles or
just a tag I think he just had such a
unique career that I just look at the entire scope
of it. But if I did have to pick, even
though he was a great tag team wrestler, and he
did it with so many different types of.

Speaker 5 (01:45:23):
Partners, this is point out here ex but x Pock
and RVD, you have like the odd couple thing. You know,
you had brothers destruction with Undertaker, you had you.

Speaker 4 (01:45:30):
Know, Daniel Bryan t Hello was an odd couple thing
too in the comedy, which is something he didn't do
very much of before, and he showed his range so
great tag team. But I do view more as a
singles because for you know, a long time, that's what
he was. And I agree, probably the greatest debut of
all time. Uh maybe you know, an argument could be
made that he's the greatest character of all time too.

(01:45:51):
Like back then with Undertaker, like they would just like
find like pretty much bomb like monster type wrestlers from
the wrestle.

Speaker 5 (01:46:00):
And he just beat him. And they were like just
looking searching for something for Undertaker.

Speaker 4 (01:46:05):
And they conceived this idea with Kane being his brother
that he thought was dead and brought him in.

Speaker 5 (01:46:10):
Like Kane had. Kane was Isaac Yankom before this he
was faked Hazel like he was like on his last
legs of like, what the fuck am I even gonna like,
I'm gonna get fired if this doesn't work, and all
the credit goes in for making this work and becoming
the most one of the most legendary wrestlers and characters
of all time.

Speaker 4 (01:46:26):
To me, that's his legacy. More than always a singlest guy,
he's a tag team guy. He's one of the greatest
characters of all time and has some of the most
amazing longevity of any wrestler too, because in that Caine
character you went for close to damn near twenty years.

Speaker 5 (01:46:42):
Basically, uh, pretty much NonStop is a full time guy.
So uh he's definitely one of.

Speaker 1 (01:46:48):
The all time greats. Oh yeah uh.

Speaker 4 (01:46:51):
Last email comes from stone Cold Steve Austin the Big
Red Machine, Austin Red Object, Attention Horrors, theater.

Speaker 5 (01:47:02):
Let me talk to you bonus points to down.

Speaker 4 (01:47:05):
If he adds in the creepy music in live or
in posts to go along with this, he will not
I can guarantee that he doesn't care about you or anyone,
but we care about you.

Speaker 1 (01:47:16):
UH.

Speaker 4 (01:47:17):
Since around twenty twenty, I've had a special edition poster
of the Fiend see attached picture. It's very cool, uh,
framed and hanging in my kitchen. This poster has been
hung up in three different apartments over the last five
years and has never had any issues. Three weeks ago,
my girlfriend and I were chilling in the living room
watching TV when we heard a big crash in the kitchen.
When I looked in the kitchen, I was stunned to

(01:47:37):
find that the poster had fallen off the wall, crashed
into the sink, and fallen to the floor. I'd said
something along the lines of wow, that's pretty fucking weird
to my girlfriend and asked her to.

Speaker 5 (01:47:46):
Help me hang it back up. I didn't think much
of it after that.

Speaker 4 (01:47:49):
Later in the day, I was scrolling Facebook when I
got an alert that I had a Facebook memory post
to look at from the same exact day in twenty
twenty three. I was stunned to see it was a
post I'd made morning the sudden unexpected loss of a wrestler.
That wrestler was Bray Whatt, quite the coincidence. Wow, spooky
two year anniversary.

Speaker 1 (01:48:08):
Wow.

Speaker 5 (01:48:09):
I still always remember, you know, when he died.

Speaker 1 (01:48:13):
I was.

Speaker 4 (01:48:15):
In uh TJ Max uh and I like one of
you guys texted, I think in the group chats, either
you or Donnie and something like, and I just like
you ever, like look at a taxing, you like whatever,
you like, you don't really realize what you're reading it first,
and you like have to do a double take at it.
That's like kind of what it was with like Bray White,

(01:48:35):
And then I go on Twitter and all this Shit's
like like I'll never forget that because it's like one
of the most shocking sad moments ever as a wrestling fan.
Like it's always sad, like a wrestler that you you know,
liked or you grew up watching or whatever passes away,
but like especially when it's something like that, when he's
so young, like that.

Speaker 1 (01:48:55):
Sucked, it's still just like unbelievable because he was so young.
Him and him and Brodie Lee Lucarps, like you forget.

Speaker 4 (01:49:04):
It's almost like your mind can like make you forget
sometimes that they're gone because it doesn't seem like they
should be, you know, it's.

Speaker 1 (01:49:10):
Just unbelievable that because we're on the same age. So
it's fucking crazy, right, And yeah, this story, I mean
just weird ship. It fucking happens, and you know, stuff
like this, it just kind of like makes you think
to the important ship, right, it makes you think about
fucking pray White that in his thirties, leaving behind wife

(01:49:34):
and two kids.

Speaker 5 (01:49:35):
You think maybe more than that proof relationship too.

Speaker 1 (01:49:39):
I mean it's just and like, you know, he was
doing such great work they come back. Yeah, I mean,
it's just this is wild ship. But you were not
even open the show with an r I p that
someone in his fucking thirties, And it's just like what

(01:49:59):
the fuck?

Speaker 4 (01:50:01):
That used to be common in wrestling because like the
way the business was and it's not so much anymore,
but it's still just the fragility of life, no matter
like wrestler or whatever you're you do.

Speaker 1 (01:50:12):
You know, Yeah, I remember watching TNA early two thousands
and Krash Holly had died the rip. It used to
happen so much that it was a lot like I remember,
I remember Test when he died. I was like, the
fuck the.

Speaker 4 (01:50:30):
One I always remember, Like I don't know why I
remember it, but there was a wrestler Louis Pacoli in
like ninety fives and w w F is Rad Radford.

Speaker 1 (01:50:38):
Then he went to w CW's Louis PACOLEI.

Speaker 4 (01:50:40):
I think it was an ec W two and it
was like a I don't know what year was, maybe
like ninety seven ninety eight, and like they put the
graphic up for him like before an episode around.

Speaker 5 (01:50:48):
I was like a kid. I was like, oh my
god died, like I know, but it was just like
he probably was younger than we are when he died.

Speaker 1 (01:50:57):
It's just wrestling were coming up on twenty and I
remember when it happened. Twenty years of Eddie Guarrero. Mhm.
That's it's unbelievably even think that he's been gone for
twenty years.

Speaker 5 (01:51:09):
Yeah, it really is.

Speaker 1 (01:51:13):
Like I was just watching on YouTube they had put up.
AW has been putting up like Classic Ring of Honor
matches and also ADW match, but like Classic Ring of
Honor matches is randomly and one of them recently. I
forget if it was on their their YouTuber, if it

(01:51:33):
was Ring of Honors they had put up, but it
was Eddie Guerrero like a tag team match ring of
Honor in two thousand and two, Yeah, and had to
date and I started looking it up because I was like,
wait a second, and he had actually already returned to
w he wrestled on pay per view already, and they

(01:51:56):
he's still then like the week later did this Ring
of It was like the last show that he was
gonna do. Obviously.

Speaker 5 (01:52:01):
I remember reading about that that they allowed him to
do that.

Speaker 1 (01:52:05):
I couldn't believe. I texted that. I was like, did
you know that he was back in w W when
he done this. He's like, no, I didn't know that, because.

Speaker 5 (01:52:12):
I remember, like I didn't even know what Ring of
Honor was yet.

Speaker 1 (01:52:16):
Oh. I mean I remember seeing it. I remember hearing
about the first show and then eventually being able to
watch it later that summer and reading all about because
it was a huge deal that Eddie Grow was on
that show and the main event he also had low
Key and you know, American Dragon was on that like
that amazing card. Eddie Grow being on was so important.

(01:52:37):
And then when he came back in w W and
he was fucking jacked. I mean what he was taking
I can't but he looked completely different when he left
in fucking you know, two thousand and one whatever.

Speaker 5 (01:52:49):
I mean, look at Eddie like when he first goes
to w CW.

Speaker 1 (01:52:52):
Oh, look when he even just goes to w B
in two thousand, but he becomes like.

Speaker 5 (01:52:57):
More ripped like as w CW goes on.

Speaker 4 (01:52:59):
Like but if you really get him from like when
he first is in WW, like that White singlet, he
looks like like he looks.

Speaker 1 (01:53:06):
Like dom based right exactly. But yeah, I remember watching
that and just being like because I was like, holy shit,
they pulled this fucking edy girl match. I've never seen
him before, Like I'm definitely watching this right now, and
just started looking it up and I was like, holy shit.
He was early in w when this match happened, and
I totally forgot that he had wrestled another match afterwards. Yeah,
that's crazy that Vince let him do that, But obviously

(01:53:27):
you have a deal.

Speaker 5 (01:53:29):
Vince did Actually, you know, I think like people do
adhere to their word or whatever.

Speaker 1 (01:53:33):
I'll give him that m hm. D Bry just spoke
about that.

Speaker 5 (01:53:38):
Yeah, I did see that.

Speaker 1 (01:53:39):
In an interview. He was talking about the negotiations of
going to AW and he was still kind of back
and forth and w W found out that he was
actually going to do the deal with AW and so
it was like the week of all out yea, and
Vince called him trying to get him to knock a

(01:54:02):
W to a resign with w W, and Brian was
just like, I get it, but I kind of already
told them I was going to do it. And I
think of what you kind of respect of me, and
whatever respect you have for me is that I honor
my word, and I don't think that you would respect
anymore if I went back on my word. He just goes.

(01:54:23):
Vince was like, damn it, you're right, yeah, and like that.
I was like, man, that's a fucking great story.

Speaker 5 (01:54:29):
But Vince should have just been like, yeah, but I'll
get over it here.

Speaker 1 (01:54:33):
That would be a Seinfeld bit right there.

Speaker 8 (01:54:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:54:36):
But yeah, so geting ending this on a better note
of just de bri talking about some stories. Yeah, fucking
crazy man.

Speaker 2 (01:54:44):
Good.

Speaker 4 (01:54:45):
Yeah, that's It's weird how stuff like that happens, though,
g you know what had a great if Donnie would
have been here for that last Emili would have been.

Speaker 1 (01:54:52):
Like, let's fucking disrespect the.

Speaker 2 (01:55:00):
Uh but not us.

Speaker 4 (01:55:01):
We we we actually like wrestling and respected and the
listeners too, so, guys, hope you enjoyed the show, especially you.

Speaker 5 (01:55:07):
Know that the last half where the uh we got
rid of the fucking loser. But thank you so much
for for listening, for tuning in, for hanging out with us.
We'll catch you all back here next week.

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