Episode 763: WWE Saturday Night's Main Event Review & Grades, AEW Full Gear Rumors

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Speaker 3 (01:16):
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of the most Donald would looking fun and feeling silent. Baby,
Mike BJ you're hearing me today. You're loving this?

Speaker 1 (01:30):
That was annoying?

Speaker 3 (01:31):
Ship you loving this? No, I was great, it was wonderful.
We had a great Halloween. Did you have a good Halloween?
Do people knock on your door in the city or
is that illegal?

Speaker 1 (01:44):
No? Thankfully they we have apartment doors. Avoid that.

Speaker 3 (01:48):
Oh okay, I mean their doors. I would knock on them.
So you don't leave candy in the hallway for the
rapists and killers in New York City.

Speaker 1 (01:55):
Nah, they're just raping and killing if you leave candy
out though, you think that's an invite?

Speaker 3 (02:01):
Yeah, that is that. That is the first sign you
can tell when a rapist wants to get in your
house is he's like, do you have recy species? That's
why that's why I heard Mike, how is yours? Did
you hand out all that's pieces?

Speaker 1 (02:14):
Ps? Ps?

Speaker 3 (02:15):
Yeah, pieces, it's a recent recess something. Why do you
find something to hate about me every time you do it? Mike?
Did you hate that organic uh fruit snacks like you
did last year?

Speaker 1 (02:35):
No, I've never done that any good.

Speaker 4 (02:38):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (02:38):
We don't get many trigger shooters at our house, so
but we were because it anyways, So the snow and buffalo, yeah,
they can't get they can't. Well, actually, Halloween it was
not that nice. That was very windy.

Speaker 3 (02:50):
It was windy as fuck here too, dude.

Speaker 1 (02:52):
Last year Halloween it was like seventies greasy, Dude, I
have all these Halloween decorations.

Speaker 3 (02:57):
The wind comes barreling through fucking town on fun Halloween Day,
knocking over mister pumpkins and ship, I'm like, what the fuck?

Speaker 1 (03:04):
Well? The nature?

Speaker 3 (03:05):
But no, we had a great time. We did a
great time. But hey, guys, listen, wrestling also happened. I
didn't watch it licking it live. I watched it all though,
never do never, never do I don't think you did.

Speaker 1 (03:15):
I don't think you watched it all.

Speaker 3 (03:16):
Certainly I did. I didn't watch it all, Okay, I
definitely skipped through what I watched too. Mm hmm, Mike
BJ we have a show.

Speaker 1 (03:24):
Yeah, yeah, we are going to review w W. We're
gonna preview. Aw you have Dirty bus Wait, yes, Marks, no,
aastically that you have Dirty Busters from Mike Carabans.

Speaker 4 (03:36):
That's the lives rooms were on Pro Wrestling Donny vs.

Speaker 1 (03:38):
Because he's a bitch.

Speaker 3 (03:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (03:41):
We had the latest Fantasy standings of very am.

Speaker 1 (03:43):
I doing good? No?

Speaker 5 (03:46):
No, you're doing the opposite of good.

Speaker 3 (03:49):
Am I still in last Milege?

Speaker 4 (03:50):
Last week someone doubled your points?

Speaker 1 (03:55):
No, what do you mean? They didn't double this point?
Your points.

Speaker 3 (04:03):
Last week?

Speaker 1 (04:03):
Last week. I'll just say it right now. I don't
know how much it's changed. I had to look at
the thing, but last week you were at negative eighty
seven point five and last, and then Skeener was in
first at plus eighty seven point five.

Speaker 3 (04:15):
Oh yeah, laugh. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (04:20):
We have fan emails, very fun. Especially last week was
awesome without Donnie.

Speaker 1 (04:24):
This week, I'm sure Donnie will leave.

Speaker 4 (04:25):
And it will be awesome again, but so much more
on the show'll be You'll be sad.

Speaker 1 (04:30):
Mike you I will not be sad?

Speaker 3 (04:32):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (04:33):
Do you like at least the second half of the show,
which is me and BG. Well check us out us anywhere.

Speaker 3 (04:37):
Get the podcast skipping ahead every time you hear my
voice like, no thirty seconds, No.

Speaker 1 (04:43):
Thirty seconds, That's how I would listen.

Speaker 3 (04:46):
I would never listen.

Speaker 1 (04:48):
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Speaker 3 (05:05):
So he hates you, guys, he loves me.

Speaker 1 (05:09):
I don't know. He's you should see the things that
he says about you when he's talking to us.

Speaker 3 (05:14):
Yeah, he's playing into your he's playing into your gimmick. Dude, No, because.

Speaker 5 (05:18):
We don't say anything about you.

Speaker 1 (05:19):
He volunteers this stuff so.

Speaker 3 (05:24):
He can't keep my name. Like Chris Rocker. He's like
the white Chris.

Speaker 1 (05:28):
Rock Thank you.

Speaker 3 (05:30):
That's so nice.

Speaker 1 (05:31):
Thank you.

Speaker 3 (05:31):
Except if he wasn't funny, probably has a much sure, Penis.

Speaker 1 (05:37):
I think you meant to say it was the white
Chris Rock and you meant it as a compliment, So
thank you.

Speaker 5 (05:41):
Supports.

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Speaker 3 (06:12):
Let me say some damn Mike. Did you hear that
they said, what a burger is the only fast food place?

Speaker 1 (06:17):
Now?

Speaker 3 (06:17):
To start with a W, yes, did you see that?

Speaker 1 (06:23):
Remember when I blew up that joke?

Speaker 3 (06:26):
Now it's just what a burger? There's no other one
around you?

Speaker 1 (06:30):
Remember? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (06:33):
Okay, but BJ, you remember that? Remember that? Shut up? BJ?
Remember when what a burger was the only rest fast
food restaurant size at.

Speaker 1 (06:42):
W Yeah, your words is wrong with you?

Speaker 6 (06:46):
Do you remember that? The only one? Well, do not
hit your lips, bro, that was so funny. Try that
on us.

Speaker 1 (07:00):
And I immediately said Wendy's nuts and read it from again.

Speaker 3 (07:06):
I did it on the I did it on the
YouTube channel. It's reminded me I was nailing people with
it on the YouTube channel, fucking decimating them.

Speaker 1 (07:13):
Dude, what happened?

Speaker 3 (07:15):
Nailed them? Let's move on.

Speaker 7 (07:18):
We're gonna put this on an order from the walking
about to have a discussion about the one who said
the fish does this makes sense in the arc? Some
me who watched the catching it on the mark takes
someone cutting and upure and the rush blew.

Speaker 1 (07:31):
Up like tad you smacked down on the floor on
the collision course with the number one.

Speaker 7 (07:37):
Back to the ring for the latest report, Ring Rush.

Speaker 3 (07:43):
God, we're really funny. Huh. Also, PJ, can I just
make a quick observation. You have the under here of
just r I p and then it's always Donnie question mark.
Is that tossing to me or wishful thinking?

Speaker 1 (07:55):
No, it's always used.

Speaker 5 (07:56):
It could be a combination.

Speaker 3 (07:57):
I feel like it. I honestly feel like every week passes.
It's the latter.

Speaker 5 (08:02):
He's just like it can be a combination.

Speaker 3 (08:04):
It's him fingers crossing, damn still live, still kicking. Can't
kill him. He's too strong for me. I know nobody
died this week, King Moo. Last week, that was it.

Speaker 1 (08:15):
It was not King Moo, that was it.

Speaker 3 (08:19):
I know he was real. Saturday night's main event. It happened.
C him, bitch gets his fucking wish. Dude, he holds
some hostage again, fucking gets his championship. Him, bitch, This dude,
can't be honest with you. From the bottom of my
heart watching this match, jay Us ain't that good? And

(08:39):
see him Punk is fucking washed, dude. You are fun
it is. It's a shell of a man out there.
This is what it felt like at the end with Goldberg.
This is what it feels like. We see him Punk
uh Dominic Masterira does his thing. Car gill It does
what we said. Give her five minutes, baby, She'll give
you the world. And Drew McIntyre the most underutilized fucking

(09:01):
superstar in the entirety of the world.

Speaker 1 (09:04):
I don't think he's underutilized. I think he's not properly positioned.

Speaker 3 (09:08):
Okay, but you use whatever word you want to. He
should be a top, top guy, not a fucking gatekeeper
for fucking Cody Roads in the championships. Uh. Yeah, that
was my emotional reaction to Saturaynight's main event. I actually
did watch this whole thing, conveniently placed in just a
couple of minutes because I skipped all the bullshit in between,

(09:30):
and it was switched short, short, short, So that was nice.
I like that. I actually extra an hour. Yeah, it
was wonderful. Uh so uh specifically match moment overall grade.

Speaker 1 (09:45):
I really enjoyed the triple threat that was my match
the night. Actually, I thought it was the most entertaining
with Dom's antics.

Speaker 3 (09:51):
I actually agree with that.

Speaker 5 (09:52):
Yeah, I do too funny enough, and I love the
finish with.

Speaker 1 (09:55):
Him bringing the ballot and thinking that he won. Uh
and then you know, using the distraction and ended up
winning that way, Like Tom is so fucking good.

Speaker 3 (10:06):
Pretty good.

Speaker 1 (10:07):
I'll tell you what. If I was a guy and
I had a wrestling podcast and I said that Hook
was better than dominic Si and Donald Serio fucking sucked,
it was never gonna be anything. I'd be really embarrassed
right now, because I would be totally and completely wrong.

Speaker 3 (10:20):
Well if I would be impervious to fucking embarrassment, I think,
uh but yeah, you're not gonna mention see him bitch
and his his washed ness in this match not being
good at all.

Speaker 1 (10:32):
Uh I thought the match was solid, seeing Punk was
great and that uh Jay was not the best in
this match. There was forgot to take a next breaker.

Speaker 3 (10:42):
Yeah, this was It's just poo poo, say what it was?

Speaker 1 (10:45):
Say it was Randy orton him. He had to kick
him in the fucking head and.

Speaker 4 (10:48):
Teach him like yo, he threw water on him, like yo,
wake the funk up?

Speaker 1 (10:53):
That's not fucking sucked. Wasn't that wasn't a bad match.

Speaker 3 (10:55):
It was.

Speaker 1 (10:55):
It was terrible, and it was the right decision. Punk
is the one that was great.

Speaker 4 (10:59):
It was the right decision, not just because it was
my idea, but considering how this matter was going, I
think you should have thrown out the bronze and be like, yo,
go fucking interrupt here.

Speaker 1 (11:08):
Because we need to say this.

Speaker 5 (11:10):
I really like puting Punk at the victory lap on raw.

Speaker 1 (11:15):
Punk and who are cool? And CM Punkie doesn't trust anybody.
He thinks that Logan Paul is a face all of
a sudden and trust him pretty stupid. I mean I
didn't really gather as that, like you didn't.

Speaker 4 (11:31):
You mean he thought he was about to help him
against the Brons.

Speaker 1 (11:33):
I think it was a case of it's him against
fucking bron breaker at Bronson, he has no choice but
the hope that the person that's also in there will
help him, because.

Speaker 3 (11:41):
He literally like shoulders shouldered him. I'm not doing this.
I'm not doing this. He looks like they booked their
champions and looked like fucking idiots and c M bitch
looked like a total idiot.

Speaker 1 (11:54):
I called Logan Paul joining the Vision and being on
their team for war games all along, though.

Speaker 3 (11:59):
I don't did you write it down anywhere? Because I
wrote it in an article. I there's no evidence of that. Yes,
there's audio evidence, but no one will ever No one's
ever come through this ship, dude, Okay, and you know that.

Speaker 1 (12:15):
Yeah. Very happy that Jade won. Uh. I think it
was for a run. I think she's at her best
as a heel and right move. Keeping it short, yep, yep, perfect.
It's a great job with Tiffany with the knee injury.
It doesn't hurt her really at all that she lost
in that fashion.

Speaker 3 (12:35):
As a matter of fact, it gives her fucking some
adversity to overcome.

Speaker 1 (12:39):
Dude, I would keep her off TV for like until
like the Roy Wimble.

Speaker 3 (12:42):
Until she recovers emotionally from dump and Ludwig.

Speaker 1 (12:46):
Did you see all that ship?

Speaker 3 (12:47):
No? I saw one clip saying They're like, I saw
this is the like I'm gonna tell you, so I
literally only have to sign on Twitter once a day
to like just make sure that stuff's going live for
travel polls, I click over. The one thing I saw
was like Ludwig Kaiser a beta male because he because
he said she's out of his league. You never say

(13:07):
that to a woman. I signed out so fast. I
was like, I'm done. People are so stupid.

Speaker 1 (13:12):
So I had no idea that we're not together anymore
for the firstly, but they showed, Uh, this man became
El Grande Americano and he just thought he could have
like a double life. Maybe because there's a video out
there he's like holding the hand of She's like, I

(13:33):
don't know if she's triple A or well. I guess
she kindly works for because Triple A is under WW
but it's like a backstage interviewer for Triple A and
he was like holding her hand walking backstage. Is this
are they Is lou Wig and Tiffany really broken up?

Speaker 4 (13:48):
Or are they just trying to play up this fucking
character that he keeps playing up, because because I don't
think that'd.

Speaker 1 (13:53):
Be very funny show or anything, Novie very funny.

Speaker 3 (13:57):
I think that who can Yeah, what are we doing?

Speaker 1 (13:59):
She's hoping that you did.

Speaker 3 (14:02):
I am just it's two different.

Speaker 1 (14:05):
People, so I don't even know what we're talking about.

Speaker 3 (14:08):
All right, let's move on.

Speaker 1 (14:10):
Yeah, wait, wait, Cody definitely turning fucking heel. He's doing
all kinds of heel shit in this match, basically fitting
doing a DDT out of the belt. He's definitely the
one that attacked Jacob Pottu, and honestly, I think a
heel turn would be best for him at this point.

Speaker 3 (14:24):
And I think what happens. He's boring has been for
a really long.

Speaker 1 (14:27):
But why are they doing all this ship if he's
not turnary heel?

Speaker 4 (14:29):
But the thing, Mike, I'm convinced that only happened because
the ref was in the wrong spot and he had
to adjust and he was playing up in real time
because they went back to that spot like thirty seconds later.

Speaker 1 (14:39):
It tells to me like he was like kind of
playing possum and then like did the spot right now?
I think it was the ref was in the wrong spot.

Speaker 3 (14:46):
Oh, thank god with doctor psychology here to help.

Speaker 1 (14:48):
I thought the ref was purposely in the wrong spot.
Is like part of the spot.

Speaker 3 (14:51):
Oh. I have no opinion on the matter. I care not.

Speaker 1 (14:55):
You never do.

Speaker 3 (14:56):
I did watch it. I just don't care at all.

Speaker 1 (14:58):
But Cody was acting like a heel.

Speaker 3 (15:00):
He's definitely if you're very wrong, if you're not, if
you're saying he's not acting like a heel.

Speaker 1 (15:04):
If the if the fucking Rock would decide like, hey,
I'll do like a little bit of ship leading up
to the next WrestleMania, then the perfect thing would be for
Cody to turn heel, because he did take the final
boss's uh offer.

Speaker 3 (15:17):
If I was a current w W wrestler, I would
say far the fuck any kind of star away from
say far the fuck away from the Rock. And there
was any long term booking. You wanna do a one
night thing, Yeah, we do a one night thing. That's great.
Anything beyond that, you're gonna fuck me over, I know,
because you're gonna do juman g three.

Speaker 1 (15:37):
Is he really? Yeah? Awesome?

Speaker 3 (15:42):
I made that ship up on the fly. I just
know this. I don't know that's hey, this is a
surprise to me, right, I don't know how that works?
All right? So favorite match moment overall great Saturday Night's
main event.

Speaker 1 (15:55):
Mike favorite match was a triple threat Domin, Tenda and
RUSSA favorite moment was, as we mentioned during that match,
with Dominic bringing the bell to get to break the hold.
That was great.

Speaker 5 (16:08):
Great, you were like a six point five out of ten.

Speaker 1 (16:11):
It wasn't anything spectacular, but we got a title change,
we got some significant moments. But it was not a
bad watch.

Speaker 3 (16:20):
B J. They did he put die off? Is he gone?

Speaker 1 (16:25):
No?

Speaker 3 (16:27):
What happened? Then explained that the silence I.

Speaker 4 (16:29):
Was about Jumanji three, and I think they considered Jumanji
three like the Jumanji two of his series, you know,
because it was the original Jumanji.

Speaker 3 (16:39):
That was what I was referencing there. But it was
a follow up to his one. Mm hmm, let's just
be the third one high hello.

Speaker 4 (16:46):
I'll get this a five out of time because like
there's nothing like you kind.

Speaker 3 (16:50):
Of need to ship.

Speaker 1 (16:54):
I mean, were fine, several champions being crowned on house usually.

Speaker 3 (16:58):
Brother, then you don't remember the fucking who's the Canadian guy?
The mounty Canadian guy.

Speaker 1 (17:07):
My favorite moment, My favorite moment is Jade winning title.

Speaker 3 (17:14):
Okay great. My favorite match of the night was JD.
Cargill and TV Stratton because it was the shortest. My
favorite moment was the one where Triple H just only
puts belts on guys who are a W stars. He
can't build his own stars, so let's a W build
them for him. And my overall grade ooh, tough one here.

(17:35):
I want to go three. I do because it was
that bad, but because it was so sure, I'm gonna
go up one to four out of ten. Yeah no,
I I gave other ones a star and a third
because it was zero stars for.

Speaker 1 (17:54):
Sam Punk and Jess Oh wow.

Speaker 3 (17:58):
John Cena, Final Match Tournament and more. Explain this to me?

Speaker 1 (18:04):
Do you mean explain this to you? You can't explain
you watch the shows.

Speaker 3 (18:08):
I didn't watch the show, though you said you watched
all the well, I watched the pay per view is
with things? Oh? I didn't see sped it. Well, I
just watched it. I don't know what this is. Explain
it to from a month ago. No, I don't do
dirtchy busters. I barely watched the wrestling just fill me.

(18:31):
Can't because I'm the genuine reaction guy. When they do, like,
I put my hands on the side of my head
and I go, oh, I can't believe it. Like that's me,
that's my job. So what is a Giant Cenal final
match tournament? They're like having a tournament to decide who
he wrestles in his final match. Great job, Okay, So

(18:52):
who's involved and who's gonna win?

Speaker 1 (18:56):
It could be anybody it's raw SmackDown or even from
outside the company potentially, And it's random draw and they've
drawn the first two matches so far.

Speaker 3 (19:07):
Priest shamous Bangers.

Speaker 1 (19:11):
I think Ruce and Seamus both win to set up
a match between them since they were in a few
before and they have history with John Cena's Like, I
think it'll be pretty much all these guys do. Besides
I guess not really what the others do.

Speaker 4 (19:22):
Like, I think it'd be cool if Priest and knakamor
won just because I prefer them, but I think they
go with Ruce, even Shamus because of all the history
with John Cena.

Speaker 3 (19:30):
Yeah, that's what he just said.

Speaker 1 (19:33):
Everyone.

Speaker 4 (19:34):
Since Melts's report says that gun Thu is going to
win this, I would agree with that, and I think
that's the right decision because go Thro is like their
top heel at this point. He's their monster heela.

Speaker 3 (19:48):
He ends his career on his back, you know what
I mean, just like.

Speaker 1 (19:51):
He ended Goldberg's career exactly like, and he'll be the
guy that retired Goldberg and John Cena in the same
year like that.

Speaker 4 (19:59):
Those are things that matter when you're talking about like
the aura of a wrestler, right like ending the streak
was a huge moment. He will always have having Gunther
be the guy that retired Johnson.

Speaker 3 (20:12):
And finally send this selfish piece of ship to his
fucking early wrestling grave. Oh god, he might he might
be turning face guys, putting this old dog down. Oh no,
But honestly, the crowds are eating this ship up. It sucks.
It sucks that he's like he's like skirt it around

(20:33):
the fact that he was such a piece of ship
by just like last couple of last couple of years man,
really really yeah, John Cena was just like the one
of the most horrible, fucking selfish pieces of ship. He's
a whole COVID level piece of ship. But the last
couple of years he was like he's cognizant of his
is like how he appears to people, and he's like

(20:53):
really like self centered about it. So he's like, I
don't want that, so I'm gonna change at the end
and then make it.

Speaker 1 (20:59):
I mean, the total Divas tape is always going to
be out.

Speaker 3 (21:01):
There, I know, and his actions against the Nexus and wise,
but he's just such a piece of ship and what
breathing living me. Yeah, And then we have Charlotte playing
Alexa Bliss versus asking Cary Zame for the women's tag
team titles. When's that happening.

Speaker 4 (21:21):
It's on Raw next week. Since you watched the show,
I would love for Auscar and Kyrie to win, but
I don't think they will.

Speaker 1 (21:28):
It's possibility, but I'm also not ready for Charlotte and
Alexa to lose that because honestly, the team has been
great and it revitalized Charlotte in a lot of ways.
She legitimately gets cheered, which for a long time people
would do her. I mean, I think they've worked really
well together, so I love them.

Speaker 4 (21:47):
At least give some credibility of sucking Oscar and Kyrie
and let Charlotte and Alexa have like a run of
his baby face is chasing the title back.

Speaker 1 (21:57):
You remember when Melt said that they were gonna go
against Killer at SummerSlam. I sure do. Its been a
while since. There was months ago. Yeah, that was the
first weekend of August. Seemed like the plan was always
for them to be a team for a long time.

Speaker 3 (22:12):
That's the super thing to say.

Speaker 1 (22:14):
An I would like the changing.

Speaker 4 (22:16):
You know, I'm not gonna put it past them because change.

Speaker 3 (22:19):
Don't be stupid. Don't be stupid. Thank you seven cur
against Rock, Hil Rodriguez changes at all. Just stop talking
about it.

Speaker 1 (22:31):
Rock has been great. I think, so she's good.

Speaker 3 (22:34):
Somebody should going to line up for the May Young
Classic and it's just like, holy fuck, we were lucky.

Speaker 1 (22:42):
It should do that again, don't.

Speaker 3 (22:44):
It'll never be the same. This the stacked nature of
that fucking well, it's because it was. It was it
was everything. It was great. It really was such a
cool thing.

Speaker 1 (22:55):
That's classic. Amazing.

Speaker 3 (22:58):
Yeah, anything else about w W before the real fucking
meat of this fucking potatoes.

Speaker 4 (23:03):
Listen, seth Roll's injury through a wrench in the plans,
but we gotta do better.

Speaker 1 (23:09):
Things are not going great right now.

Speaker 3 (23:11):
Not at all, but it's going great over here.

Speaker 1 (23:14):
We gotta get to Bron and Bronson being in that
world title scene with punk coming out of because I
understand surviviceries you're building to. Obviously the coming out of that,
I think you gotta get Bron probably to win the title.
I have him win the rumble. I just feel like

(23:35):
that again.

Speaker 4 (23:35):
I know that last week they really missed the boat
not giving Broun a title because like, it just feels
directionless on the show. And I'm watching Raw and I'm like,
why are Bron and.

Speaker 1 (23:45):
Bronson even together still?

Speaker 4 (23:48):
Because they're dominant force together, but are they They're not
doing anything.

Speaker 1 (23:54):
They're working together.

Speaker 3 (23:55):
Yeah, you are such a politician, dude, You are such
a politician. Are they chasing tag? He's saying, they're not
chasing tag titles? They're not doing anything instructive together, They're
not they do anything. Hang out, good time, buddies, dude,
they go to the bar afterwards. Okay, let's talk about

(24:19):
because I am fully geared. I am geared up for
full gear. I just want to mention real quick. We
don't usually talk about pre show matches, but if you don't,
if you don't respect Boom and Doom, you're a fucking idiot. Dude.

Speaker 1 (24:33):
I thought Marshall's feuding with Big Boom a j brother.

Speaker 3 (24:37):
The Boom and Doom connection is the kind of ship
that my kids will tell their kids about. That's the
kind of Marshall babyface now when he stands next to
big Big Boom Aja, yeah he does. Yeah, he has
a face.

Speaker 1 (24:51):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (24:54):
Who do you think wins that match?

Speaker 1 (24:55):
Rpgvices have bangers on the tokyo though not the match
they're having had.

Speaker 3 (25:00):
Five How many Melts game five Stars with Parking Lot?

Speaker 1 (25:04):
How much is Melts having to pretend that he loves
this when he's dying inside?

Speaker 3 (25:08):
Yeah, let me tell you something. He at first he
was like this big Boom guy, I hate his fucking
cookie reviews or whatever he got famous for. Right, and
now he's like he's put in in the work. He's
like a He's like Logan Paul over here. He's the
a w Logan Paul, the Costco cookie guy. Oh god,

(25:32):
I hate it. I hate the crossover ship like that.
It pisses me off so bad. Let's go through the matches.
Get your de low brown heads out of loose pop
that we don't shut your fucking mouth. We're doing a
little loose one. Chris stat Lander, Mercedes Monett. You're right,
the guy had like fourteen matches. But who got Mike

(25:53):
Monei's titles not on the line.

Speaker 1 (25:56):
Yeah, that's why I think that Chris Taylor is probably
gonna wine. It would be kind of dumb to have
her beat Tony from Poice and then you just throw
it all away and ever losing Mercedes right away. Agreed,
I'll go Mercedes then.

Speaker 3 (26:09):
No, okay, easy, easy, hard wouldn't shock me one bit.

Speaker 1 (26:15):
The world title, Like, what are we doing here?

Speaker 3 (26:18):
Because the ultimate culmination, because so let's do it. No, no, no,
we're not doing that at the price of Chris stat Lander.

Speaker 1 (26:25):
Do it someone else.

Speaker 3 (26:27):
No, Chris stat Lander beats a lady wearing forty four belts.
You just look like a fucking star. Dude. It's great
for Statlander not hurt by it.

Speaker 1 (26:35):
Hold on, hold on, hold.

Speaker 4 (26:36):
On, you just said don't do it at the expense
of christat Lander. Do it against someone else? Yes, so
who should that be?

Speaker 3 (26:43):
Whoever beats for Statlander?

Speaker 1 (26:45):
Then who should that be? Because then you'd be like, no,
we can't.

Speaker 3 (26:47):
Do whatever he like. So if it was me, I
would do something like Meghan Bane.

Speaker 4 (26:52):
So then you're sacrificing Megan Bane for heel and Mercedes Monet.

Speaker 3 (26:56):
Uh. In that sense, you're elevating hold on, No, no, no, no, no,
you don't do this. You don't can Chris stat Land.
I did think this too, Christ, but Tony, I don't
know idea. Chris Statlander is someone who we've been yelling
for a long time should be a top droll great
perfect right. She's a face, maybe not for long, she
is for this top spot. This is what it is.
Faces don't last as long. Megan Baine has a transitional champion.

(27:18):
You get her, you put her in that position, you
make her view like a fucking well be fluid and
what's before just got hurt. So you're gonna have to
fucking flip her around anyway. He could make her face
Megan Bane with no, oh, here we go. It's a
fucking transitional champion. You're giving it to her to fucking

(27:39):
elevate her just by being in that in that situation,
by winning the title, by fighting Mercedes, she looks like
a top star. You don't know a damn thing, an asshole, asshole.

Speaker 1 (27:52):
I don't think they have a real end game plan
with Mercedes and what they're doing here, because what's there,
what's their end game? Well, promotion around.

Speaker 3 (28:02):
The world, Like I've won everything, it is that.

Speaker 1 (28:10):
I think somebody has to beat her for all her
titles and then they vacate them and be like, I'm
going to release these titles to everybody in the water.
That's why, that's why she.

Speaker 3 (28:24):
Who threw who through the title in the water, through
the title in the water too.

Speaker 1 (28:32):
Maybe through a title on the water at some point,
Damian sand was not even briefcase in the water.

Speaker 4 (28:40):
Say these already lost a women's world title master Tony
Storm right months ago, right, so here you go have
her win now and then like you guys are saying,
could be Chris, you know what, fu all this, I'm
gonna beat you for everything, and then she's a hero
for all wrestling companies.

Speaker 3 (28:56):
Can I tell you something?

Speaker 1 (28:57):
Yeah, I think that would be ideal. I think Mercedes
wins and then they had to a reimagine stat Lander
wins like and it could even be world's end.

Speaker 4 (29:08):
It's like, this is the end of all this fucking
this reign of terror that Mercedes your language.

Speaker 1 (29:13):
You keep dropping because if you Mercedes loses that, I
don't know how you get her back to the world
title scene anytime soon.

Speaker 3 (29:19):
You don't need again. No, she loses. Hang Man out
of page wins though against.

Speaker 1 (29:26):
Are we doing this again?

Speaker 3 (29:28):
The match is a banger, and the good the recent
run it back.

Speaker 1 (29:34):
Turned. I have to do it. You have to do it.
How to be done?

Speaker 3 (29:39):
I mean, yeah, it was so good last time I
won it again, Yes, nobody cared about it. The match
is a fucking absolute banger, dude.

Speaker 1 (29:47):
It was fine. Yes, Why is m j F coming
back so we could just win the title at this
point he's coming back, so maybe world's end.

Speaker 3 (29:55):
He's gonna be winning the title too, like split mm hmm.
Uh Brodito against f t R, My god, I am
so hard. I actually just bumped my head on the
fucking desk.

Speaker 1 (30:09):
Bro Well, Brodido, let the carry no attacking toogo mat.

Speaker 5 (30:12):
Yeah, well, Broddo a better one.

Speaker 4 (30:14):
Uh brot I think Edin Christian come back here.

Speaker 1 (30:19):
Let's see it, because I don't know tr World filming
for whatever the thing he's doing.

Speaker 3 (30:24):
Whatever he's doing adult videos or something.

Speaker 1 (30:26):
What's it could be nice?

Speaker 3 (30:29):
Is he a Viking guy? Again?

Speaker 1 (30:31):
No, I think it's like a Percy Jackson or whatever.
It's not like a Disney Plus thing. I don't watch it.

Speaker 3 (30:37):
Why would you turn and ask me? I was more
towards bej Okay, I thought you were like. I just
didn't understand your whole rationale right there.

Speaker 1 (30:46):
Oh, more about like the superhero stuff that I no
longer have Disney Plus.

Speaker 3 (30:51):
I'll tell you what I got, YouTube, YouTube TV. I
no longer have nothing. Okay, Now, if they don't resolve this,
I don't have Monday Night football next week when the
Eagles fucking square off against the fucking Green Bay Packers.

Speaker 1 (31:06):
At least I get like fucking red zone and everything.

Speaker 3 (31:10):
So BJ don't let us, don't let the truth get
away of a good story. Okay, shut your mouth enough,
but yeah, I could take away my birds, Kenny Omegan,
Jurassic Express, oh my god, again, the Young Bucks and
Josh Alexander. The winner will receive one million.

Speaker 1 (31:36):
Me.

Speaker 3 (31:37):
I just said it. This is can I get you.
I mean this I did.

Speaker 1 (31:41):
Why do they keep doing these fucking matches for money
that nobody cares about.

Speaker 3 (31:45):
It's part of the Young Bucks storyline. So for me,
for me, I disagree. I love it. So for me,
there are sometimes where you're right. I don't ask for
a match. I didn't ask this match. It's because I
wasn't elevated enough to think of this match. They gave
me something I couldn't even comprehend when I saw you.

Speaker 1 (32:07):
Weren't high enough at the time to think about it.

Speaker 3 (32:09):
Brother, When I saw this, I shot spider webs like
I was Spider Man. It was wild. I love this
for this, for this stars, I'm starting it at six stars.

Speaker 1 (32:22):
I honestly, you know how usually it takes them like
up until like the very start of the show and
they announced like five matches like just randomly. This is
one of those types of matches. I can't believe. This
is what they're trying to build. Is like one of
their fucking top matches on the show.

Speaker 3 (32:37):
Kenny Omega, Jack Perry, dude, need I say more?

Speaker 1 (32:43):
Yeah, yeah, say something good? Nothing, He's never saying anything.

Speaker 3 (32:53):
Ship yeah. Starting at six stars here, I had to
get it. I had to pull it down because I
had to make it bigger so small and to click
on it. Yeah, so we don't have anything else to
talk about, So it's Patreon plug time. Anything else about
any drop you gonna talk about? Bobby Lashley looking good?
Can't wait for MJF coming back.

Speaker 4 (33:14):
Yeah, you said that was gonna be Bobby last year
going after the championship.

Speaker 3 (33:19):
It's not. I really think you should be though.

Speaker 4 (33:23):
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Speaker 3 (33:39):
There was some confusion with that word.

Speaker 1 (33:42):
There wasn't really, but I mean hold on there.

Speaker 3 (33:45):
Legitimately was like you weren't confused, and that doesn't mean
there wasn't confusion. This is you holier than now up
there in your ivory tower looking down on us, dude.

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Speaker 3 (34:07):
That's still fluid because that idea sucks. Fine, I don't know,
I don't love it. Maybe at Christmas dinner like we
picked whoever? Could we at the Christmas dinner doing that?

Speaker 1 (34:19):
No, we're not gonna do this. Why do you suck?

Speaker 3 (34:25):
Just roll it through your head a little bit, think
about it.

Speaker 1 (34:27):
Can you go away? Just go away?

Speaker 3 (34:29):
No, I might stick around for a little bit.

Speaker 1 (34:32):
No, you really shouldn't.

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You gotta call dirt shop bus scripop skip skill track,
scoo purpose source. That's interesting to all Right, guys, Donnie's gone,

(35:08):
It's just me and Veg. It's time for dirty Buster.
I'm so happy. How you doing? Man excited? I love him?

Speaker 3 (35:13):
Hee.

Speaker 1 (35:13):
That segment sucked. I'm so mad about the w secsion.
That's brutal. He does it on purpose, doesn't purpose? I
hate him? All Right, we're gonna start to hear with
one from Wrestling Server newsletter. Who Donnie loves uh? Bianca
Belair is injured. I hope you don't want to know
when she'll be back. I do, I really do want

(35:34):
to know because I've missed her a lot, but you know, uh.
Bianca Belair has been out of action for much of
twenty twenty five, but that doesn't mean a return for
the former w W wins champion will take place in
the near future. According to Dave Meltzer of The Rest
Reserver newsletter, there is still no return date in place
for Bianca bel Air.

Speaker 5 (35:50):
Thanks uh. This is despite bel Air.

Speaker 1 (35:53):
Having been out of acting since she sustained broken fingers
a ww Wrestling at forty one and the triple threat
match against uh yess I in Rhea Ripley. Why are
you here? Why are you here?

Speaker 3 (36:05):
Out a year with a broken finger?

Speaker 5 (36:09):
It is?

Speaker 1 (36:09):
It is insane. She did like an interview where she
said she did like the they did like a triple
German suplic spot, and she thought that she broke like
every finger on her hand because it got like trapped
under rear or something like that. But it's pretty wild,
like I think she said, like she kind of like
broke her knuckle or something. So that's kind of different
obviously than a broken finger. But to be out, it's

(36:32):
been what six months at this point, over six months.

Speaker 3 (36:35):
Maybe she's milking it kind of.

Speaker 5 (36:37):
Shocking Mi Melsa has no clue when she's coming back.

Speaker 3 (36:41):
I bet you she's fucking collecting paychecks, making shirts and
shipped at home. Hey smart, could you see your time? Actually?
Good job? Uh?

Speaker 1 (36:52):
The sessions from not wrestle Boats but TC of wrestle.

Speaker 3 (36:56):
Boats, T hold on, No Terence Crawford, Jimmy Chang, Timmy Chang?

Speaker 1 (37:06):
You ever hear that?

Speaker 3 (37:11):
Is that the Japanese toe or whatever his name is,
H go ahead, Tokyo To.

Speaker 1 (37:22):
Uh doesn't want its wrestlers getting.

Speaker 3 (37:29):
The Japanese toe. I don't get the reference. So it's
Tokyo To got it? Yeah, okay, I'm getting it now.

Speaker 1 (37:39):
He doesn't want its wrestlers getting a reaction. I'm not
sure if I believe this one. A source I spoke
with this week told me there has been an internal
concern that Brown Breaker and Bronze re received baby Face
fan reactions following their turn on SETH Rollins, which played
into the decision to exclude them from the Battle Royal.

Speaker 5 (37:55):
And Raw last week. I don't think that's true all.

Speaker 1 (38:02):
I don't think that's true because literally this week on Raw,
they beat up Logan Paul. So if you're worried about
them getting baby face reactions. Why would you have them
beat up like the most hated guy you have.

Speaker 3 (38:13):
They're worried about it. They're not gonna do anything about it,
but they're worried about it.

Speaker 1 (38:16):
I think the reason they weren't in the Battle Royal
is because they were never going to win the Battle
Royal and they didn't want them to lose. I mean,
thank you, because you could have gone angle though, Like
that's why they didn't have him, and it wasn't because
they didn't want to give baby face reaction.

Speaker 3 (38:35):
This guy gets it one I haven't met yet. I like.

Speaker 1 (38:43):
You, guys, Rid for the honorary dirty buster of the Week.
Hurricane Helms. I love Hurricane Helms.

Speaker 3 (38:52):
I almost had him on my Royal Rumble list two
thousand and two.

Speaker 1 (38:57):
I wasn't surprised.

Speaker 3 (38:58):
I was surprised that he went after.

Speaker 1 (39:02):
This is from al.

Speaker 5 (39:04):
This reporter is from Al.

Speaker 1 (39:05):
Don it be Raw's opening segment last night reportedly went
ten minutes longer than playing and left the company scrambling
with the rest of the show. Is this twenty eighteen?
Is this a rip up? The script? Vince report.

Speaker 3 (39:19):
I have a friend who has a speech impediment, and
he says scrambling a scrambling, scrambling, scrambling. So I just
imagine everybody running around backstage like it's tunes yelling them.

Speaker 1 (39:34):
Hurricane responded. Hurricane responded this on Twitter. Oh mg, we
were so scrambled. It was unreal, yelling, screaming monkeys swinging
off the chandeliers. The humanity alright, reference owned them.

Speaker 3 (39:52):
I don't get it.

Speaker 1 (39:53):
Uh seemed like the show just went normally to me.

Speaker 3 (39:57):
But ten minutes long.

Speaker 1 (39:59):
Sorry, yeah, yeah, I'm sure.

Speaker 4 (40:02):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (40:02):
Stesss from Wresmserver Radio, Meltz makes an outrageous claim about
seeing his Last Time is Now tournament Donnie just John
Seen as long awaited farewell matches officially suffered December thirteenth,
instead of choosing his own opponents scene as at a twist,
a sixteen man tournament will determine who earns the right

(40:23):
to face him in his final match. In a video
released by w B Seni revealed the tournament could include
competitors from outside of the company.

Speaker 5 (40:30):
During a recent edition of Wrestlmser Radio, Dave.

Speaker 1 (40:32):
Melts revealed that seen His comments were likely meant to
build intrigue around big names such as Chris Jericho or
Adam Edge Copeland. However, the chances of.

Speaker 3 (40:41):
M right Jericho comes back and fights him.

Speaker 1 (40:42):
We didn't even mention this under contract.

Speaker 3 (40:45):
He's coming back.

Speaker 1 (40:46):
I saw his boots, however, the chances to be their
star appearing that was not his boots due to existing
who were they then, Roman Reigns, Cody Rhodes Sampunk in
Brockluster was for a fucking.

Speaker 3 (41:01):
Commercial we saw, Dude.

Speaker 1 (41:03):
Here's the quote from Melts. They want to tease the
idea that it'll be Adam Copeland, which it won't, or Jericho,
which it won't.

Speaker 5 (41:12):
Because this contract's not up by then, so it's probably
gonna end up being someone like MATC.

Speaker 1 (41:17):
Cardona or you know, it could beat somebody for fucking TNA,
because that's not technically in w Joe Hendry, Jeffry exactly
like I. I certainly think Joe Hendry will be in it.
I could certainly see jeff Party being in it.

Speaker 3 (41:31):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (41:32):
Anybody who thinks that this is teasing Jericho or Edge
is they're fooling themselves and putting in their own minds
that nothing.

Speaker 4 (41:41):
That does this is just the like he's just trying
to put fucking expectations on people's heads that okay when
it doesn't happen. Now, they could be mad at w
W because there was something out there that potentially it
could be Edge aroun or fucking Chris Jarco when it
was never gonna be.

Speaker 1 (41:56):
They never teased this in any way that would be
Edge or.

Speaker 3 (41:59):
Christian dam heard it many times.

Speaker 1 (42:02):
Stupid ship. That's the problem is Sean Sack was one
of a w's strongest soldiers. He even replied to it.
He's like, they never suggested this. That's when you know
it's bad. And when it's the lying has gotten out
of control, that smells for you.

Speaker 4 (42:18):
Though talking about fucking bad face Ship all the time,
this is bad Face Ship.

Speaker 1 (42:23):
He's sick in the head, this manhole.

Speaker 3 (42:26):
He's He's a god amongst us journalists.

Speaker 1 (42:30):
Is this from flightful? Wrestlers learned that working out is
a good idea.

Speaker 3 (42:34):
I wish I wish j would learn that weekends.

Speaker 1 (42:37):
Would learn that the has reportedly been giving private party
advice on how to improve their careers, including spending more
time at the gym. This has reportedly been seen as
and I quote, very helpful for private party.

Speaker 3 (42:51):
Wait, that's a gym like, what the this room with
all the goofy ship, this room with all the goofy
ship in it? Right, that's a gym, no ship.

Speaker 1 (43:01):
Dude, Why did they have to be told this?

Speaker 3 (43:04):
Just staring at the weights, like how do you use them?

Speaker 1 (43:07):
And why did this have to be reported?

Speaker 3 (43:09):
So you curl that.

Speaker 1 (43:11):
This just makes him look so dumb.

Speaker 3 (43:14):
It makes look like honestly, it makes everybody, It makes
everybody look like idiots.

Speaker 1 (43:18):
It makes it look so stupid. And I'm sure this
is fucking false. So this makes them just look so stupid.

Speaker 4 (43:25):
I think they knew about what we're great wrestlers, Like,
why would you put this out there?

Speaker 1 (43:29):
It's so stupid.

Speaker 3 (43:30):
I love it. I love this. I lived in this
kind of ship.

Speaker 1 (43:32):
Then for w w it some time in your future probably,
So that's why.

Speaker 3 (43:38):
Out here looking like cheeseburger? Out here looking like cheeseburger
from r O A Shooper.

Speaker 1 (43:43):
Dude, cheeseburger dude? Uh wait for the cud of girl
from Observer Radio, Melts tells a fairy tale about begging
him and l to be on the creative team. Oh
my god, Diana, you hear this? No?

Speaker 3 (44:00):
I did not? Okay, strap in brother, This is not
the first time they said that, though Dave Meltzer, no, no, no.
Brian Alvarez specifically said before I remember you said you
might even send me a clip where he said, uh
that they had actively pursued him previously about like his
they at least as a consultant, because that's what you want.

Speaker 1 (44:25):
Dave Meltzer says dada By once tried to recruit him
right after Monday night while I was ringing slip below
the four point oh mark. The long time Wrestling Observer
journalists shared the story during the November first edition Wrestlings
Are Radio and claims the call came in a critical
moment for w w's creative direction. Corner Meltzer at All
started when the show's numbers drop a low a key threshold,
sparking a phone call from w executive Ed Cohen. I

(44:46):
got a phone call from Ed Cohen from b and
it was just like he said that he's doing it
out of what was the word, like his idea. The
idea was the word.

Speaker 3 (44:57):
Yeah, that's not a good word. He didn't say that
in a better word. Maybe maybe remember the conversation, Dave, But.

Speaker 1 (45:03):
Yeah, I'm already not believing anything he's gonna say now.

Speaker 3 (45:06):
But so I was in Burbank and we were in
a car. You're like, wait, he's in a car.

Speaker 1 (45:13):
Fake call. But I sensed it wasn't his idea.

Speaker 3 (45:17):
No, no, no, he really did call him. He was
a prank phone call. They're like, oh your rigator day.
Oh God, I'm so excited you're gonna call from Stamford?
How are you?

Speaker 1 (45:27):
I sense it wasn't his idea, and he's like really
pitching me and everything. I was like, nah, no interest
at all. I had none. Meltzer made it clear he'd
z your desire to crossover in the B system. Despite
the offer in likely solid compensation, he says he never
considered it a real option. I shot it down immediately.
I wanted to be a sports writer, which he's not.

Speaker 3 (45:52):
He still wants it. He's still he's still aiming for
one day.

Speaker 1 (45:56):
Here's the thing, guys, when are we saying the timeline
is for this? I did brog go under four point? Oh?
Was that like twenty ten?

Speaker 4 (46:05):
So here's the thing, right, has Vince not hated this
man ever.

Speaker 1 (46:09):
Since the steroid trial? Yeah? I assume so. And leaking
a whole ton of ship all these things that he said,
certainly during Vince era, Vince is gonna.

Speaker 3 (46:19):
Be like, let's bring Dave Meltzer on, let's call on
and hey, you said it yourself. Anything it happened in wrestling.

Speaker 1 (46:26):
People go, oh, you wanted to be a booker. You
never wanted to be a pro wrestler, never wanted to
be any of those things. I wanted to be a writer.
So I did that a fucking shitty one.

Speaker 3 (46:36):
First off, yes you did, you fucking Mark, because you
could have gotten sportswriter.

Speaker 1 (46:41):
Just it always reminds me him saying like, if it
wasn't for wrestling, I would have been the leading NFL reporter.
And then he calls Patrick Mahons, Patrick mahoneys.

Speaker 3 (46:49):
Oh dude, Yeah, this dude is borderline. That's true.

Speaker 1 (46:55):
He also claimed that w be reach out to Brian
and elvast through him, hoping Elvarez would join the creative team. Dude,
his reputation for humor and ideas he had that he
had that he wrote that part that offered didn't go
far either. They came to me and it was like
they thought he was really funny and creative. I pitched
it to Brian and he couldn't. Basically didn't think he

(47:17):
could last a week there and probably couldn't. I agree,
probably couldn't because he fucking sucks. I would say I
had a reputation for humor and ideas.

Speaker 3 (47:28):
People that I love wouldn't say that about Yeah, like that,
like if I'm writing. The only time someone's ever said
that about me is me when I'm writing up a
resume or something and like fun full of creative ideas,
like that's all. It's the only time about I've never.

Speaker 1 (47:45):
Once heard el speaking like, Man, this guy is fucking hilarious.
Like who says he?

Speaker 3 (47:51):
I laugh all the time at.

Speaker 1 (47:52):
Him, Adam exactly. I agree with that?

Speaker 3 (47:57):
Is that it?

Speaker 5 (47:58):
That's it?

Speaker 3 (47:59):
Oh my god? How we do, Mike? How we do?

Speaker 1 (48:04):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (48:06):
I'd love Davis a writer.

Speaker 1 (48:08):
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Speaker 1 (48:51):
All right, b g, he's really gone this time. The
last time was a false finish, but he's actually laughing through.
That was very disparaging to heaven did not enjoy that. Alright,
we're gonna do fantasy standings. This is gonna get you happy.
This is gonna get you going, is it? We'll see,
Uh well, this part will In tenth with negative eighty

(49:12):
two point five is Donald Wood? Good friend? He gained
five points because Roxanne won a tag team match, so good,
good for end for him. Uh In ninth with negative
twelve point five Austin Red and negatives but still has
seventy more points than Donald Wood. That's insane. Yep, it's

(49:34):
kind of sad but also hilarious. Uh In eighth with
twenty seven point five. George Cruz.

Speaker 5 (49:42):
He should be in negatives too, He's always negative towards us.

Speaker 1 (49:46):
Said, yeah, with his personality being negative.

Speaker 3 (49:49):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (49:50):
Uh In seven with thirty Reggie Gil he deserves Yeah, Reggid,
he's not mean to us.

Speaker 5 (49:58):
In six with thirty five, Big buddy.

Speaker 1 (50:00):
Mike, Damn Mike, it's like your lowest score ever knocking
on the door of the top five. You know, No,
I mean, I probably, I don't think I've ever finished
in negatives, But yeah, it's not the best. Uh In
fifth with fifty five, mom go, he drafted with his
dog too, so that's pretty impressive. Smart. Uh In fourth

(50:24):
with seventy g Fuck, it's a little bit of a drop.
What happened? What happened Saturday's made the event happen.

Speaker 4 (50:35):
I didn't think Russa and fucking pent were gonna be
an icy title triple throw where they both lose.

Speaker 1 (50:40):
Fuck, this is a tough break. And then Russa is
definitely gonna lose next week probably or in two weeks.
So doesn't even magazine cancel out? This is bullshit? Mike, Well,
I guess you just gotta hope he wins that first matchup,
so it don't matter. But yeah, in third with eighty
two point five, Jim del Choppo, the man that picked
insane drafted. The most incredible thing with that is, as

(51:02):
we mentioned, is like he picked Amy Zay who did
the US Open Challenge, and he also picked Dragon Off
who's now doing It's fucking crazy, dude, how did you know?
I think he has some type of end because there
was no way to fucking know that. No, insane.

Speaker 3 (51:18):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (51:19):
And we've got a tie for first with eighty seven
point five ever, so got me and skim Wait. The
fucking Larryot Lounge, the lounge who built the brand behind
our backs, is tied for first place.

Speaker 4 (51:38):
We came in here and infiltrate our podcast, Like you know,
we're gonna run fantasy fuck this bullshit?

Speaker 1 (51:42):
Yeah yeah, because I won't. No, we need you to win.
I'm not going to. Though I thought we thought Sina
might wrestle in Boston and New York. That's definitely not
gonna happen. I wouldn't say definitely not. I think it
can happen.

Speaker 4 (51:59):
I think it's it's gonna be that he doesn't appearance
and its like for like the tournaments.

Speaker 1 (52:03):
Like you know, he's like the trophy on the outside. Maybe,
but I think it could still happen. I don't know.
He's he'll still probably win a Survivor series. We don't
even know he's gonna do a Survivor series. No, And
by the way, if he faces Dom, he's probably gonna lose.
But I don't think he's facing Dom because I didn't
put that in dir Cheese Busters. Yeah, because I'm waiting
for one hundred percent confirmation to be announcement. But I

(52:25):
think Meltz got fucking had on a second. Yeah, you're right,
it's gonna be domin raight right. I and I brought
up Domin Ray weeks ago because we were talking about
it and we're like, oh, it's in San Diego.

Speaker 5 (52:37):
Yeah, they should be domin Ray if Ray's ready to go.

Speaker 4 (52:39):
Yeah, and let's say he's ready to go, look like
he's ready to go.

Speaker 1 (52:42):
The only way it could be different is if they
made Dom defend like both his titles and separate matches.
I guess, but I don't know who do that.

Speaker 4 (52:51):
Obas Fenny should be in the tournament and fucking win
it and he takes out John Seen.

Speaker 1 (52:57):
I mean, I think he might be in the tournament
because they said NXT people me or maybe they'll do trick.
We'll see m HM. I mean O me would be like,
could you their final? Yeah? But the thing is that
I I went on time to lose.

Speaker 3 (53:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (53:18):
But I mean if he like dominates, gets to the
final and like loses like an absolute fucking battle war
against go and throw will be the worst, then I.

Speaker 4 (53:26):
Think interesting to do a better him. I'm just mad,
I trased in the first round hasn't wrestled.

Speaker 1 (53:32):
Yeah, sorry, man, but they're so fine. We'll get to
Survivor series unhappier things BG, it's emails time. That's time
of the week because it's always to me. Donnie's honestly
love emails. I wish we got more.

Speaker 4 (53:48):
I wish you had the episode that was without Donnie
and just you and I are doing emails.

Speaker 1 (53:53):
That would be the most I get that to happen sometimes. Uh, guys,
send us an email. Ringer Radio at gmail dot com.
Also go to Patreon dot com slash ringrest Radio. You
can triplet to the emails here or higher. We got
to read at least one of your emails every single month. Honestly,
even if you just send an email and you're not
part of that good change, you'll get on the show
and we'll read your email. We love the emails.

Speaker 3 (54:13):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (54:14):
This first one's from Chris Ray mysterios heater Jeter subject
need a recap all right, So soup my guys. I
know I've been missed and haven't emailed you guys in
a while. One percent true. Unfortunately I suffered a heart
attack and have been in a coma in July. Yeah.

(54:35):
I reached out to him after getting his email, and
he said he's doing a lot better, thankfully. I'm getting
my brain and body back together and can't let my
triple our guys go without hearing from a guy in
a while. So if you guys can give legit what
the hell happened, since, like August, it would get me
back in on this ship. Picks fellas much love. Thank

(54:57):
god you're doing better.

Speaker 4 (55:00):
This is heartbreaking, yere, but I told you I didn't
know the extent of anything like that, but that you know,
it obviously sucks that he went through that, but so
lucky that it wasn't worse than it was.

Speaker 1 (55:15):
But it sounds like he's doing a lot better, and he,
you know, just the thank us for doing the show
and was excited to be able to tune in again.
So we're gonna try to get him up to speed
right here.

Speaker 4 (55:27):
Oh yeah, come on the show at some point and
just you know, take your recovery slowly, don't put yourself
beyond what you can do.

Speaker 1 (55:34):
So happy Chris that you are feeling better. So the
recap since.

Speaker 4 (55:40):
August, Holy shit, Mike, Mike to me, I think you
gotta start with SummerSlam. Yeah, you gotta start with the
ruse of the century with Seth Rollins. That's the first
thing I have, right, faking and a knee injury that
we thought could it could not be fake, and it
was turned out that it was fake. You see him
punk beat, screwing through and a great mat for the championship.

(56:01):
Seth Browns comes out, teases catching him money in the bank,
turns a round like he's gonna leave, then comes back.

Speaker 1 (56:07):
He drops the crutches.

Speaker 4 (56:08):
He comes out running down to the fucking ring own
CM Punk who stands out like a fucking mon and
wins the championship. Back the holy shit, Now the vision
has incredibility.

Speaker 1 (56:21):
Okay, right, and well that was great, But on that front,
Seth hurts his shoulder for real while beating Cody at
Crown Jewel uh So, ron Breaker and Brons a return
on him. On the next episode of Raw, they write
seth Off with an injury, Angle has to vacate the
world title, and now Punk just beats Jay Usso at SATA,

(56:42):
it's an event to win the world title. That just
happened this past weekend.

Speaker 4 (56:47):
So I think the next thing we gotta go to
is because when Chris was watching John sena as all
of a sudden, the heel right right now, all of
a sudden, he's a face. Well how did he turn face,
you might ask, Well, really, no, he goes gonna face
Cody Rhoads at SummerSlam. Cody's like, I need the real
John scene and I want to beat his ass. Fuck

(57:09):
do this heel bullshit, I don't trust you, and blah
blah blah blah. The fans want the real Johns scene,
the back they've been wanting to cheer for him in
this retirement run, and John Steene it comes out just
cut the promo and is like, basically, yeah, you guys
are right.

Speaker 1 (57:23):
This has been terrible.

Speaker 4 (57:24):
I'm tired of listening to other people doing things for him,
and I'm gonna go back to doing what I used
to do and gonna run the hits.

Speaker 1 (57:31):
Back and he's done it. It's been a lot better
in some ways.

Speaker 4 (57:35):
And he went on and had one of the best
matches of his career in a A E. W Style
match against Cody Rhodes where they just kicked out of
the most finishers you could possibly think of.

Speaker 1 (57:47):
And he lost the championship to Cody. Right, there was
no real base turn if he just cut a promo
and that was it and he was back to being
a baby face. But loses to Cody. Then Brock Lester
shows up. Lesber shows up after two years away. He
shows up in Summer Slime hits Senot that five. We
get seen it in Brock at w Russell Palooza in September.

(58:07):
Brock wins basically a squash match. Then they just move
on from that, and the fans have been calling and
wanting they want AJ Styles. So Sena does a tweet
and he's like calling out. He just says, like I
want it? Do you want it? He's like I want it.
At Triple Triple H's like you got it.

Speaker 5 (58:24):
So we get John scene against AJ.

Speaker 1 (58:26):
Styles, absolute fucking banger at Russell Paluza that John Cena wins.
We haven't seen him since then aside from a video
package announcing that they're going to hold a tournament to
determine Johnson's last opponent at Saturday Night's main event in December,
and that tournament is starting next week, sixteen man tournament. Uh,
people from Raw SmackDown. I see potentially people from outside

(58:47):
the company and the winter Faces. John seen his retirement match.

Speaker 4 (58:52):
So my think next up we got to go to
the women's division.

Speaker 1 (58:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (58:55):
The biggest thing that would be missed here is Naomi
was chick champion all of a sudden, not the show.

Speaker 1 (59:02):
Why is she not a show? Well, she got pregnant.

Speaker 3 (59:05):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (59:06):
While she was pregnant, she was having great matches. Didn't
even know.

Speaker 4 (59:10):
She had the vacate the championship. Didn't even lose it.
She had the vacate the championship. Do the pregnancy they
hold a basically what was it?

Speaker 1 (59:19):
Uh? No, it was EO was already so she was
already put in the title match. And then Stephanie was
Stephanie Vakaierre was owned a title match because she won
a Battle Royal Evolution. So they did Stephanie versus EO
at Russell Palooza for the vacant title and Stephanie Vicaire
won the title.

Speaker 4 (59:37):
Yep, And I would say that of all the matches
that you should go back and watch, John Cene de
Styles is number one to me and number two would
be EO and Stephanie.

Speaker 1 (59:50):
That's a great I'll have one more for him in
a second too, won't we get to it? So that
that happened one's vision. More recently, I don't know if
he saw there it's made or not. But Jade Cargill
throughout the summer and into the fall, had a bunch
of title matches against Tiffany Stratton fell short. He was
kind of babyface for his baby face turned heel last
week by attacking Tiffany. And then they have a match

(01:00:12):
that senate. It's made event Tiffany's compromise, he's got a
knee injury. Jay takes advantage and wins in short order.
So now she's women's champion. Jade Cargill h and also
on the women's front, aj Lee returned her first match
in that game happened at Wressell Palooza. Her and cmpunk
defeat Becky Lynch and Seth Rollins. Uh, don't worry, you

(01:00:35):
haven't missed anything from aj Lee beyond that though, because
she hasn't been on the show since that match, but
entertaining match a little long.

Speaker 4 (01:00:41):
I felt it was fun but well booked match and
she looked great in her first match in a decade,
and so that was very significant.

Speaker 1 (01:00:50):
So what else, Mike, anything else? Yeah, here's a big one.
Sammy Zaine won the US title from Soul So CoA
and since doing that, he did an open Challenge gimmick
much like John Cena. One of the open challenges was
John Cena, which was a very I love that. A
couple of weeks ago though, Iliot Dragonall returns from injury.

(01:01:12):
He'd been out for like a year with a knee injury,
and he's the opponent for the Open Challenge and he
beats Sammy Zaine for the US title in the Open Challenge.
That's my pick for match that you have to go
back and best TV match of the year by far,
probably in the running for me for match of the year.
That match is fucking incredible, So definitely watch that one.

(01:01:35):
I would like to. It's a non match to watch. Oh,
that would be one of my.

Speaker 4 (01:01:41):
Favorite matches of the year because I grew up with
these two tag teams two of my favorite tag teams
of all time.

Speaker 1 (01:01:47):
At TNA Bown for Glory.

Speaker 4 (01:01:49):
It was the final tables match between the Hardy's and
the Dudley's. It was the well it was Devon's retirement match,
and it was just an excellent tables match, well told story.

Speaker 1 (01:02:00):
The crowd was very hot for it. They gave it
their wall and Devon Dudley actually he has a YouTube
channel and he just put up yesterday. When we're recording this,
I believe.

Speaker 4 (01:02:12):
That it was like almost like a forty minute or
so documentary style of like here was the day of
the show off, here's backstage leading up to everything. They
show you clips during the match. He's talking about things
that happened during the match and then the post match,
and it was so well done.

Speaker 1 (01:02:28):
I'm so happy he was able to do it.

Speaker 4 (01:02:30):
He has some good stuff on his YouTube, but when
that popped up on my feels, I got to watch
this immediately did it and it was great, especially with
the context of the match and Devon Listen, he had
suffered a stroke. He was injury of the back injury.
He had surgery. DDP Yoga was helping him out and
so he was able to go out there and have
a great match, and everyone did an excellent job. I
highly recommend watching. It's one of my favorite match of

(01:02:51):
the year. Not probably won't be in my top five
for the Rusties because there's been so many great matches
this year, but that was one of my favorite matches.

Speaker 1 (01:02:58):
Of the year. Okay, yep, uh. The only other thing
I have listened here, it's just I think we have
to mention it. It's about Cody Rhodes. Uh been pretty boring,
is b champ. He's been acting shady lately. Chris Jacob
fo I got attacked backstage recently. Uh, and Cody blames
Drew McIntyre because its supposed to be Jacob versus Drew

(01:03:20):
for the number one contender spot. Uh. So Cody comes out,
he's acting all weird, he blames Drew. Then we get
Cody versus Drew at Saturday's main event. Cody's acting heelish.
Drew tried to use the title and then Cody ddt
him out of the title and the ref wasn't looking
beats him that way. We talked about a little bit
earlier in the show. I think he's turned heel So
that's something to keep an eye on as you get

(01:03:41):
back to watching. I don't think he can feel he should.
He's spoken, he's spoken about it. I just don't think
he'll do it. I think he loves the baby face
pop too much. This is boring at this point. Yeah, agree,
I think that's pretty much. I think that's the main

(01:04:02):
stuff you need to know. But we are. We're happier
on the men. Yeah, don't worry about that. Nothing happened.
Next email comes from that Chris so happy you're doing better?

Speaker 3 (01:04:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:04:16):
Next email comes from.

Speaker 4 (01:04:17):
Matt Bowers of Pain, subject top ten.

Speaker 1 (01:04:21):
Hey, they're friends.

Speaker 4 (01:04:22):
There's been lots of speculation Chris Jericho coming back. Oh,
Christ Jericho coming back to be so, I thought it
would be fun to do a top ten list Christ
Jericho matches or moments have fun Ringrose Ring Roads. I'm like,
I comboed this matches and moments of his career.

Speaker 1 (01:04:40):
Yes, I did too. I have some marvel mentions. I
have one honorable mention, all right, go first winning the
inaugural a W world title. No, not even a mention, okay,
I just I felt like I had to mention it
just because, like for for him personally. But it didn't
make my top ten. I got three final mention.

Speaker 4 (01:05:02):
In storyline wise, he creates money in the bank. Okay, yeah,
one of the most at this point iconic matches in
Dada dev It's a yearly staple.

Speaker 1 (01:05:11):
When it was done just wrestling, he was very cool.

Speaker 4 (01:05:13):
Then it was so popular because of its own pay
per view.

Speaker 1 (01:05:16):
Now it's just a I mean, you just argue it's
top four pay per view, so I have that.

Speaker 4 (01:05:20):
I originally had this in my top ten, but I
bumped it down after doing some analysis of other things
and thinking about through the career. And it's not so
much like his match, but it was a monumental match,
especially for one of my favorite matches, the Elimination Chamber
two thousand and two. He's in the first one ever.
You know, it goes to the top three, the final three.

(01:05:41):
It wasn't like an stand out of the match, but
I did originally have it in my top ten, but
it's not then. My final honor mention is the Man
of one thousand and four Holes promo.

Speaker 1 (01:05:51):
That is on my list. It was originally on my list.
I bumped it down for a couple other things I
felt were more important in his.

Speaker 4 (01:05:57):
Career, but this is is a meme at this point, right,
It's it's almost like pop culture of seeing this fucking
photo of him with the long list and it's just
so working. Very rarely, Mike, you can count on one
hand the amount of times that actually did something entertaining.

Speaker 1 (01:06:14):
This is one of them. A lot of it was
with Jericho and or the Cruiserweight division. So yep, yeah, absolutely,
all right, Uh you go first, my number ten again,
this is this.

Speaker 4 (01:06:29):
This is a late This is honestly was on there
and then I took it off and originally the Man
of one thousand limitation Chamber was over here.

Speaker 1 (01:06:37):
Put it back on.

Speaker 4 (01:06:38):
Because at this point in time in his career, he
didn't really have many big wins, I feel like, and
this was especially as a fan watching at the time,
I was like, this is this is massive that he
just won this match. It was with Chrispin Wah against
Triple As Stone Cold on Lall for the Tag Team Championships.
Now very squad, yes, at this point, very much overshadowed

(01:07:02):
because of the torn quad and you know now that
Triple H for the last like fucking seven minutes of
this match is fighting through hell to finish this and
he's in the walls of Jericho, so it very much
became a match about Triple H's legacy.

Speaker 1 (01:07:15):
But I remember watching this match.

Speaker 4 (01:07:17):
Live and being like, holy shit, I can't believe they
just beat the two man Power Trip because Triple Ahs
and Stone Called were running shit in this time. And
then I comboed this mic with the fact that because
Triple Ah's Stone Called lost and now that they're out
of the picture because of the injury, they go on
literally the next day in reality, but then on SmackDown

(01:07:40):
days later, on two days later, three days later, TLC
three has se yep that they have to do this
match because of the injury, but they do it in
real life the next fucking night, and all of a sudden,
the Hardys, the Dullies, Educristian are thrown into the mix.

Speaker 1 (01:07:53):
We're doing.

Speaker 4 (01:07:54):
This was mind blowing, what like, because at this time
there were spoilers that would come out on like Tuesday
night Wednesday of what's happening tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (01:08:03):
And was like, what they're doing TLC three weeks talking
about that, he said, TLC do great, you know, a
month ago, what the hell was going on here?

Speaker 4 (01:08:10):
And so it was just a mind blowing week and
so I have this as number ten.

Speaker 1 (01:08:14):
Okay, good choice. My number ten is his return in
the twenty thirteen Royal Rumble Mike, Okay, okay, I love
that return. He had been out for quite a while
since like the Summer lost, the loser leaves WW match
or something like that. To the Dolve Ziggler. Uh. Ziggler's

(01:08:36):
the number one enter in the rumble, uh, because he
wanted to be like HBK or whatever, go start to
finish and win it. And who's number two? Chris Jericho.
There's no inkling he was going to be in it,
not even a single fucking rumor or anything. So he
shows up, gets a massive pop, and he had a
great performance in the match. Hell yeah, I'm higher Miaumer nine.

(01:08:58):
He beats the Rock for the WCW title at No.
Racy two thousand and one.

Speaker 4 (01:09:03):
I just mentioned I felt like in May two thousand
and one that he really had many big matches that
he had won and here as a single star, he
was really on the ascent for a while now, but
he never really got that breakthrough, and I felt that
beating the Rock, even though it's for the WW title
and it was, you know, an afterthought during the Invasion.
But this is one of my favorite pay per views
during this era, and it was a big deal for

(01:09:24):
him to beat The Rock. I mean, I remember me
and my friends like flipping out, like he just beat
the fucking Rock for the championship, Like clearly something's happening
here where they're seeing something in Jericho, and it was
it was like it was basically baby Face for his
Babyface here because they were both on Team WWF.

Speaker 1 (01:09:40):
But there was like in fighting that like there was
a lot going on, and so we're going to beat
the Rock.

Speaker 4 (01:09:45):
Even though he lost it like two and a half
weeks later, it felt like such a big deal that
he beat the Rock, who had just come back two
months prior.

Speaker 1 (01:09:53):
Basically, so I had that number nine that that was
the vengeance two thousand and one, No Mercy two thousand
oh no Mercy. Okay, all right, I don't.

Speaker 4 (01:10:03):
Know when this is when the invasions, So this is
what I was saying. I started going through things and
I was like, oh, yeah, no Mercy. Two thousand and
one was a massive moment for him beating the Rock
in the.

Speaker 1 (01:10:13):
Singles match for the ww Championship. It was during the Invasion.

Speaker 4 (01:10:16):
It wasn't afterwards, I do have vengeance two thousand and
one later me too.

Speaker 1 (01:10:22):
Okay. My number nine, Cristierico beats Triple Ah for the
title on Raw in two thousand, so he didn' actually
beat him significantly higher. You thought he beat him, did
the old dusty finish there with the fast count, and
for a little while on the show you think Jericho's champion,
but he ends up to give the title back. That

(01:10:43):
to me felt like testing the waters with him is
like world champion because early on in his tenure, okay,
you started off having his little thing with the Rock,
but they kind of moved him down pretty quickly. He
was like icy title level. He was, you know, with
China and hardcore Holly, and it was great, great stuff
that he was doing, but they were not presenting him
on the level of a world champion. This I think

(01:11:05):
was let's see what the reaction is if he wins
the world title. The reaction was massive, and not super
long after this they go ahead with the push to
put him in the mainvent scene.

Speaker 4 (01:11:16):
My number eight Royal Rumbl two thousand and one, the
lattin Matchkins Christ, That's my number eight because at this
point in time in the history of a LADDI matches,
there's not that many, and they're not there even fewer
that are this caliber.

Speaker 1 (01:11:32):
Right. This was.

Speaker 4 (01:11:35):
Especially after two thousand because they had with Kurt Angle
at Wrestlemated two thousand a triple threat.

Speaker 1 (01:11:42):
Then that's Summer Slaying. They two to three falls match
Chris Cerco and Chris Barwan. That was really good. Then
he starts to feuded with xpof then he has a
really bullshit few with Kine to end two thousand, rights
over fighting over coffee spill coffee, Like, come on. Then
he gets into this for the Icy Championship.

Speaker 4 (01:11:59):
And I really enjoy Chris Jericho in two thousand, but
two thousand and one it felt like, Okay, they are
really gonna see what Chris can do as a major
player here and two thousand and one is one of
his best years in my opinion, and it starts here
at the roy Run with Chris bin Wall.

Speaker 1 (01:12:14):
What a fantastic ladder match. I love the spot with
the walls of Jericho on top of the ladder.

Speaker 4 (01:12:19):
It doesn't really make that much sense, but it's a
fucking awesome visual and they just crushed it.

Speaker 1 (01:12:26):
Uh yeah, I one agree. To me, I think it's
still a top five ladder match of all time. Probably, yeah,
especially if you're taking like TLC matches out of the equation,
like just the regular ladder matches. I'll always say Razor
and HBKA or so many of the ten is the best.
But argument I think can be made this is the
second best one. But they were doing such cool, like

(01:12:46):
fucking like figure fours through the ladder and shit and
like stuff you hadn't really seen much of, and then
a much it's kind of darker. Note you see some
bumps that fucking ben Wowa was taking this match, and
then you kind of understand why things happen the way
they happened. But in that moment, that match was incredible. Yeah,
awesome match.

Speaker 4 (01:13:04):
I mean at that point in time, like you said,
you know, Sean and Razer your favorite.

Speaker 1 (01:13:09):
But there weren't many. I mean, there's triple right, like,
there's not many singles matches for a ladder match that
they're doing this, and this is I think the first
ladder match. I could be wrong. I think it might be.
It's one of the first.

Speaker 4 (01:13:27):
It's one of the first ladder matches after TLC one.

Speaker 1 (01:13:31):
Right, So you have a lot to try to live
up to.

Speaker 4 (01:13:35):
Fantastic Child, because they fucking did it.

Speaker 1 (01:13:38):
My number seven, I'm going to assume this is higher
on your list.

Speaker 4 (01:13:42):
WrestleMania nineteen against Sean Michaels Dream Match Territory where WrestleMania nineteen,
in my opinion, is one of the greatest cards of
any show of all time.

Speaker 1 (01:13:54):
It might be the second best, buying only seventeen.

Speaker 4 (01:13:57):
I agree, because it's absolutely unbelievable. This hard from top,
top to bottom. It's like dream Match City except for
maybe two.

Speaker 1 (01:14:05):
Matches, if you will. But this was one of the big.

Speaker 4 (01:14:09):
Dream matches, and it's one of Sean's still first matches
back from injury, right, and they just put on a
fucking banger and it's amazing and it really sets the
stage for five years later. I wasn't really watching at
the time, but their feud, which is an iconic feud
in christ Jericho was Syce.

Speaker 1 (01:14:30):
You're and Shawn Michaels.

Speaker 4 (01:14:31):
I wasn't really watching at that time, and so this
one I was hardcore inter wrestling and still my kind
of learning about Seawn Michaels. I wasn't watching during that time.
I came in when he was already gone injured and
and so then to see like Chris Jericho again being
put in a great spot. Okay, he was in the
main event last year against Triple H, but here he

(01:14:52):
is now in a dream match territory with Shawn Michaels
and they fucking delivered and it was just Sean continuing
to deliver it. And it's like, holy shit, this guy
he's act like this isn't like a fluke. He's fucking
back and he's doing amazing.

Speaker 1 (01:15:05):
Uh do have it higher? But agree with everything he
just said. My number seven is promo on Stephanie McMahon.
The dirtiest, most disgusting, skankiest, brutal, bottom feeding trash bag
hoh that I've ever seen in my life. His his
interactions with Stephanie or some of the greatest things in

(01:15:26):
his entire career. They just had that chemistry. And honestly,
it's like some of the most over like baby face
stuff Jericho every day, because I think if you look
at most of his career, his greatest successes is the heel,
but he was so overdoing this shit. Stephanie was perfect
in her role, like her reactions to it, and it's
hilarious that they end up sucking working together ultimately at

(01:15:49):
wrestlming A eighteen, which honestly was not probably the best
direction to take. But I love, you know, their interactions
with Jericho's the baby face, her is the heel, and
him just taking every shot possible at her. Yeah. I
always enjoyed the one.

Speaker 4 (01:16:04):
Maybe it's the same one, but the rock is out
there also, and they're just going back and forth trying
to shift on.

Speaker 1 (01:16:10):
Stephanie and Rhinos out there too. Great stuff my number six, Mike.

Speaker 4 (01:16:16):
It's it's a compilation of things, okay, but the idea
is one idea.

Speaker 1 (01:16:22):
And that is the list, So I also have kind
of it as a compilation quite a bit higher. Oh okay, ye,
what do they call it? The Festival of friend Friendship?
I said, the Friendship Festival. The list was just.

Speaker 4 (01:16:42):
One of the dumbest fucking things you could think of,
but so genius, and they every week because you know,
we're watching this, we're doing the podcast and everything, and
it's like it's just a time period twenty sixteen where
there's some really good things and then it's still the
stuff of like this ship blows, right.

Speaker 1 (01:17:02):
But the list was every single week.

Speaker 4 (01:17:06):
You were looking forward to seeing what else they could
do with this, and just kept getting better and better.
The pen, the clicking of the pen, waiting for the
crowd to say, waiting for this. Whoever else is the
opposite of him?

Speaker 1 (01:17:18):
Like what are you? Like? Are you fucking kidding me? Right?

Speaker 3 (01:17:20):
Like what do you mean?

Speaker 1 (01:17:21):
Like?

Speaker 3 (01:17:21):
What is this?

Speaker 1 (01:17:22):
What is it? Even? Fucking like? I don't care about this?

Speaker 3 (01:17:24):
Right?

Speaker 4 (01:17:24):
And then you had Kevin Owen's playing off of it,
and then Jericho would just go on when it's like
a j Styles and your fucking soccer mom hare and
he starts adding things to it.

Speaker 1 (01:17:33):
Uh, you know they first it was like a little
notepen whatever it was, and it kept like branching out,
you fucking steel.

Speaker 4 (01:17:40):
Just such a great fucking gimmick an idea. And this
was honestly one of my favorite times at Jericho's because
he's he's one of the guys who's been around for
so long, but he's reinvented himself so many times.

Speaker 1 (01:17:52):
It's not like a John sne situation. It's not like
a Triple A situation. It's not like the Undertaker or
even you know, the Rock is on a little bit,
but not even to the extent of it.

Speaker 4 (01:18:00):
Chris Jericho is like a league of his very fucking
own when it comes to reinventing your character and staying
relevant and doing different things and trying things. Somethings aren't
gonna work, somethings will work. This was one of those
things that you just watched it unfold every week and
was like, this is fucking brilliant, and I never wanted
it to end.

Speaker 1 (01:18:22):
Uh my number six. It's WCWEBG Fall Brawl nineteen ninety eight.
So for people who are not aware of what's going
on here, Jericho had like this Goldberg, then yes, so
Jericho has a feud quote unquote with Goldberg. It basically
it's a one side of few. Jericho's just doing everything.
He's calling him out, He's doing hilarious segments. Goldberg's like

(01:18:44):
not showing up, not being partly like. So Jericho's like
acting like he's beating Goldberg and matches and shit, but
the matches aren't really happening in reality. It's because Goldberg
was a fucking bitch and like didn't want to actually
have a few with christ Jericho. So Jericho was doing
his own thing.

Speaker 5 (01:18:59):
But so football ninety eight, Jericho.

Speaker 1 (01:19:02):
Spoofs Goldberg's entrance, which he did for a while during
this time. Hilarious. So he's got Ralphus, his security guard
with him, and like he's they knock out his locker
room door and he comes out and he's like going
and walking and accidentally like walks through a wrong door
and like goes outside, he gets lost on the way
to the rig and shit, it's absolutely hilarious. Then he

(01:19:25):
goes in and people think it's gonna be Actually Jericho
was Goldberg, but it's some like really short guy that
kind of looks like Goldberg, and Jericho beats him. That
whole feud was fucking hilarious, and it's actually really dawn
on Goldberg's part that he wouldn't be part of it
because Jericho was golver and he was great, and I

(01:19:45):
think ultimately Goldberg did like actually spear him like one
time to end the feud or whatever.

Speaker 5 (01:19:51):
But Jericho took something and he did it all.

Speaker 1 (01:19:55):
Himself and was amazing in it. That's awesome.

Speaker 4 (01:19:58):
Yep, Mine or five you mentioned it is the surprise
return to the twenty thirteen Royal Rumble. A big reason
for this is just the feeling right, this is less
about his career and more about just me as a
fan watching. And it's like you said, where we're doing
the podcast, now we're all on the dirt sheets. No
one predicted this, no one saw coming, and to do that,

(01:20:23):
especially in that time period, you just it was so
difficult to get around that, and they managed to do it.
It was so perfectly well done. It's one of the
greatest pops in Royal Rumble history. And I just remember
us marking the fuck out. I was flipping out for
this and because of that, because of the surprise element
and being able to do that, and that, to me, though,

(01:20:43):
is Chris Jericho right? So many times that they would
try to do these things, and like I remember, I
think it was two thousand and five or I think
it was two thousand and five, but like the state,
like the save us why to jan thing, right, like
you kind of felt that was going to be.

Speaker 1 (01:20:58):
Jericho by the time it got to Jericho when this happened,
you just did not see this happening. And it was
the year before where it was Okay, it's gonna be Jericho,
and was Jericho in twenty twelve. And I still think
he should have won the war wumble not seamous. I'm
so surprised that he didn't. I know that was so stupid,
all right.

Speaker 4 (01:21:16):
But here such a fucking surprise, so well done. Like
you said, storyline wives is all made sense and they
crushed it.

Speaker 1 (01:21:27):
Yeah, that again one of the great actual surprises, because
some of these surprises aren't really surprises because shick it's out.
Nothing about that matter. Five beating Austin and Rock in
the same night Vengeance two thousand and one becomes double
world champ a little bit higher. So the matches themselves

(01:21:48):
in a vacuum, nothing like spectacular. You wouldn't say either
of those matches are like among the greatest of his career,
but it's just what this meant. Yeah, rock in Austin
arguing can be made through the two top guys in
wrestling history certainly were during this time period. Uh So,

(01:22:09):
for Jericho to beat both of these guys in the
same night, that's never has anybody got the Rocket Scheffler
back to that degree. Uh that is a huge vote
of confidence in him. And you know, he beat both
those guys and from that point forward pretty much he
was a top guy. Like Okay, Yeah, sometimes you go
back down on the IC titles scene, whatever. But he

(01:22:29):
was always viewed as a main eventor as a world champion,
as that guy, which is something he should have been
in WCW, but they were afraid to put guys like
him in that position. WWF did it and this is
the way that they did it, and that was like
a bragging right that he had for years and years
after that, and he would mention it for years and
years after that, which is what you should do, because

(01:22:49):
that's the biggest fucking things you could do in wrestling,
is being stone cold in the rock in the same night. Yep.
It's like I was saying earlier about.

Speaker 4 (01:22:58):
Yeah, if he goes and fakes out Johnson and Goldberg
in the same year, like that is something you will
always have to always say, and you should always fucking
say that because those are two of the biggest names,
and so Chris Jeriko, if I was him, I'd still
be fucking saying it right. My number four ties into that,
But I do have that a little bit higher because well,
I don't talk about that, but he main events WrestleMania

(01:23:21):
eighteen with Triple H and.

Speaker 1 (01:23:22):
I know that the story is Triple H's.

Speaker 4 (01:23:25):
Story returning from injury, wins, the roar, rumble, the heal
thing with Stephanie, which I watching it week to week.
It wasn't good feud.

Speaker 1 (01:23:32):
I get it, and the match. That's why it didn't
make my list. It's obviously a great accomplished for me,
it's the accomplishment, that's That's what it is to me.

Speaker 4 (01:23:40):
It's not That's why I'm saying all this up front,
Like I remember watching it this time and it's like this,
why are we doing? This is the feud, like this
is all about Triple Stephanie. Chris Cherko was a fucking athlot.
He's going down to the parking lot.

Speaker 1 (01:23:51):
To pick up dog. Shit, what the fuck are we doing?

Speaker 4 (01:23:54):
And the match itself as a fan, because I was
I'm a huge Triple H fan and I like Chris Jericho.
I enjoyed the match, but you know, in hindsight, it
was overshadowed by the Rock and Hogan and but the
accomplishment in itself, because people have to understand, like he's
only three years into WW and he's main event in WrestleMania,

(01:24:14):
and he was a guy that everyone looked at despite
even just being within three years that he just would
never The whole thing was he'll oh, he'll never get it.
He'll never get that spot, he'll never get that pushed,
he'll never present him in this way. And but he
was in the main event, and he was a main
wrestling main inventor, which not many people were. It's only
wrestling in eighteen, and he was a guy that came

(01:24:35):
in from WCW.

Speaker 1 (01:24:37):
His career, yes, he had a debut with We'll Get
people like It started off not well.

Speaker 4 (01:24:42):
Right, ninety nine is not a good year for him
in WW and in two thousand he's starting to get
the ascent. But then two thousand and one he takes
off and here it was, Okay, we're putting you in
the main event of Wrestlmingia and he needs to be
the guy that the big babyface returned from injury Triple
H has to go up against.

Speaker 3 (01:25:00):
And he was that guy.

Speaker 1 (01:25:01):
And that's very important.

Speaker 4 (01:25:02):
I mean, not many people get to me and the
event wrestle MENI he fucking did it so to me.
As far as accomplishments and moments for his career.

Speaker 1 (01:25:08):
Number four, yeah, I feel bad because they were putting
an impossible position having to follow Hog in rock, which
they never were gonna be able to do, and it
just kind of fell flat because of that. Ye number
four the Man of a thousand and four holds real lists, Yeah,
the common theme in his career lists. But you know,

(01:25:31):
I know you weren't a WCW fan and weren't watching
during this time, But I watched both RAW and Nitro,
and the things that I liked on Nightro at the
time were I like the nWo and I liked the
Cruiserweight division, and that included Cris Jericho, and one of
the best feuds there ever was in the cruiserweight division

(01:25:52):
Jericho and Dean Malenko, Man of a Thousand holds, Like
he he had like a hilarious gimmick like he would
beat somebody and he would take something from him. So
he had like a bunch of fucking masks around his
neck and you just like always steal kind of travel
thief Bronson Reid and then he kind of stole the
moniker of the Malenko call himself the Man of a
thousand and four Holds, proved that his four holds better

(01:26:12):
than Malanco, And of course the iconic segment is him
having a long ass fucking like Santa's Naughty and Nice list,
scroll in the ring and reading down the list and
like every fourth or fifty and then the other ones
are like just fucking made up ship like the Flying
Credenza or something like that. It's like just hilarious, like

(01:26:34):
him reading it. They go to commercial comeback, he's still
reading it like it's amazing.

Speaker 5 (01:26:39):
He's one of the greatest things that he ever did.

Speaker 1 (01:26:43):
That's great. My number three is his debut on Raw
Always I haven't higher. Yeah, I figured I was.

Speaker 4 (01:26:52):
Not watching it this time, right, I'm very much in
and out of being like my friends are fans. I'll
go over some like pay per views, but I wasn't
watching me two weeks. I wasn't really into it until
months later with the Wrestling two thousand video game comes
out and you know the Stephan Mcmanhelmsley Era and Stone
Cole getting run out rundown. So I wasn't watching it

(01:27:13):
this time. So I only had the significance of them,
like playing Cliss back then. You you know, as you
can learn and read stuff, you understand significance. Now we've
done like top debuts and I did not include this
as one. I only evenin I had on my top
ten because the moment is very cool, but he actually
gets kind of shit on by the rock and then.

Speaker 1 (01:27:33):
They do absolutely nothing with him, right.

Speaker 4 (01:27:36):
But Mike was so important about this is he escapes WCW.

Speaker 1 (01:27:42):
Very important exactly.

Speaker 4 (01:27:45):
So he escapes WCW, he makes his debut. One of
the greatest things in.

Speaker 1 (01:27:49):
His life is to be able to get out of WCW.
And so that's why it's number three.

Speaker 4 (01:27:53):
Awesome debut with the fucking music, the moment itself turned
down the lights, the countdown that had been going on
for weeks like that is that is honestly one of
the greatest ideas for an entrance and a fucking debut
that that was all amazing. So I you know, I
jested about a lot of things that it's an incredible debut.

Speaker 1 (01:28:11):
My number three WrestleMania nineteen match against Shawn Michaels, that
to me is his greatest match of his career. Had
a lot of great ones. It's funny enough. I was
kind of like looking to see like how many like
five stars he'd ever been given. I think Meltz gave
him a five, gave him a five star for Omega
in New Japan. Yeah, that's I figured, and I believe

(01:28:33):
like a fucking stadium stampede or something like that is
all he's given him five stars for. I thought this
was a five star match, and I watched it's five
star match. Melts is a fucking idiot. This is an
unbelievable match on absolutely fucking stack card Wrestleman in nineteen.
I felt like this is the best match on the show,
which is saying a lot. This is early in hbk's return,

(01:28:57):
and you know, has an unbelievable match to then like Jericho,
you know, kind of the whole story is like Jericho
trying to prove like he is better than Shawn Michaels
because this is a guy he looked up to growing
up and everything. Uh. And then they have like this
great match and then they they have this moment where
they're like kind of shaking hands and hugging and you think, oh,
this is so nice and kicks them right in the
dick and that's just Chris Jericho. That's that's the heel.

(01:29:20):
Chris Jericho character was so perfectly done. And they did
a lot more coming out of that too. They had
like the Royal Rumble where Jericho like had Chris Christian
dressed up like him and fucking he jumped HBK and
threw him out and they did all kinds of That's
probably very much in the conversation for his greatest feud
is with HBK, and this was by far their best match,

(01:29:42):
and I think the best match in Jericho's career definitely.
I think I'll probably have the same also because it's funny.

Speaker 4 (01:29:49):
I was going back and I like reading, like, you know,
I'm trying to do this list, and like I'm looking
at like people is like, you know, the greatest matches
and all this, and.

Speaker 1 (01:29:56):
I'm like, you know, it's not like someone where you
think of like a Daniel Bryant, right options.

Speaker 4 (01:30:05):
Yeah, yeah, it's like they're there are the ones that
definitely are clear, and there's just ones that like, yeah,
it's like a three star match. We maybe a four
star match, but it's not. There's nothing like this is
really like a top tier There's only so many top
tier Jericho match because he's just he's just a solid performer,
right Like to me, I think one of his best

(01:30:26):
matches ever was him and AJ against the New Day
on a fucking random raw.

Speaker 1 (01:30:30):
I love that match. That was an incredible match that
I think that's one of his best matches ever.

Speaker 4 (01:30:34):
Nobody really talks about it, though, Yeah, that was awesome match,
all right, it's a great one.

Speaker 1 (01:30:39):
That was number three, right, m hm. So my number
two is.

Speaker 4 (01:30:42):
When he becomes the undisputed champion Avenge in two thousand
and one. So I mentioned earlier that he really hadn't
had many big matches. Then he wins the ten team
titles with Crispin Wag and Stripley stone Hole.

Speaker 1 (01:30:53):
Then he beats the Rock at No. March two thousand
and one. So now it's like, Okay, you're a guy.

Speaker 4 (01:30:59):
He I just remember watching time, See this is one
you tick out like bias, right, because I remember specifically
watching this pay per view, and I the last person
I wanted to win with Chris Jericho because see, he
was very much a heel at this point essentially, and
he just I'm like the Rock, Stone Clock.

Speaker 1 (01:31:17):
I wanted wanted them to win, even Kerdan Angle.

Speaker 4 (01:31:19):
I was a big Kurdanngle fan, and so Chris Jaraco
was fourth on the list and it was a surprise
that he won that he beat stone Hole on the
Rock in the same night because you did not think
that was going to happen.

Speaker 1 (01:31:31):
The way they should have was perfect because they never
like suggested that anything that would make you think that
Jericho would win both medals.

Speaker 4 (01:31:38):
Because at the very least you would assume that they
would give it to kerdan Angle because he's basically the guy,
like their homegrown guy. Now right, he's coming out of
the invasion storylines going, he's kind of waffling back and forth,
and he was such a natural heel that even though
he had a little bit of a babyface run during

(01:31:59):
you know, nine to eleven, Yeah, let's beat you know,
let's be honest. True, you thought maybe they would give
it the kern Angle if if they're gonna go with
a heel route and Keran Angle being the guy like
he hadn't made event to wrestle MEI yeah, it's not
two two thousand and three that he made events WrestleMania.
So Chris Jericho being the guy where it's like you
just won an unspeed championship. Holy shit, now now you're

(01:32:20):
taking you know a lot of notice, and you just
didn't think that was gonna happen.

Speaker 1 (01:32:25):
It wasn't a great Tyler run. You know, he does beat.
He does beat the rock right at fucking no way out,
Like it was surprising of who he goes and beats.
I'm sorry, the Horror Rumble.

Speaker 4 (01:32:40):
It was definitely surprising of these matches that he was having,
but it wasn't a great Tyler run.

Speaker 1 (01:32:46):
But this moment, you can't take that away from somebody.

Speaker 4 (01:32:49):
He's the underspeed champion and you beat some phone on
the rock the same night, won accomplishment.

Speaker 1 (01:32:54):
Nobody else can say that. Someone else to say it.
Minumber two Fast Friendship slash list of Jericho in general
festival Friendship was one of the greatest like storylined vehicles
of all time, where you got Jericho like trying to
cheer up his buddy, Kevin Owens, got a fucking painting

(01:33:17):
of them. There's a weird ass like sculpture wearing the
shiny fedora and they fucking scarf and everything. And then
Kevin Owens hands him a gift and it's the list
and Jericho says, why is my name on the list?
And then the crowd is like oh, and then Kevin
Owens just whoops his ass like so so well done,
and like it worked. It was like about this corny

(01:33:40):
fucking thing which is the list and this whole like
segment was corny, but it was hilarious and it worked
within the fabric what you were doing. Like as you
mentioned about the list, like it was so dumb, like
if you just like explained it to somebody who didn't know,
they would say.

Speaker 5 (01:33:58):
That's fucking stupid. But as you're watching every week, it's
just so.

Speaker 1 (01:34:01):
Funny because the way he was able to play until
you mentioned the clicking of the pen and the crowd
is just like waiting for him to stay and then
the huge top when he finally does it. He had
like the longest pauses of all time leading up to it,
and then he would say it in the crowd would pop.
It was just like he truly did reinvent himself with
this just random thing that you would never think would
get over be a popular thing, but that sometimes that's

(01:34:23):
the best stuff in wrestling, and this, to me is
like easily one of the best things he's ever done
and probably pends like ten to fifteen years, one of
the most fun things in wrestling. Absolutely right, you're.

Speaker 3 (01:34:32):
Right about that. You're right about how are you here?

Speaker 1 (01:34:34):
Why are you here? You're supposed to be gone, You're
supposed to be long gone. Yeahs, fuck go ahead, number
my number one. I'm so mad that we're almost we're
almost done. We're like three minutes soccer game.

Speaker 3 (01:34:51):
It got canceled?

Speaker 1 (01:34:52):
Are you kidding me? Are you being serious?

Speaker 3 (01:34:56):
I'm here?

Speaker 1 (01:34:57):
Are I I don't know what's going on?

Speaker 3 (01:35:00):
I swear to god they can't they cancer fucking only
two fucking dads showed up.

Speaker 1 (01:35:08):
Wow, So we have to do a fucking recording at
eight o'clock in the same as canceled.

Speaker 3 (01:35:13):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (01:35:14):
Anyways, my number one. So why couldn't you just be like,
stay gone.

Speaker 3 (01:35:18):
I got a little I got a little ice cream.

Speaker 1 (01:35:20):
Go away, yeah, go away?

Speaker 3 (01:35:22):
All right?

Speaker 4 (01:35:23):
My number one, Like best Chris Jericho moment of all
time is what we're doing. Donnie uh Is on Raw
in two thousand, he quote unquote be striple A for
the title.

Speaker 1 (01:35:33):
Yeah again, Mike.

Speaker 4 (01:35:34):
I'm kind of new the wrestling, you know, kind of
new really watching wrestling this time. When I'm getting in
christ Jericho was a heel. He's doing stuff with China
and fucking hardcore Holly for the Icy Championship.

Speaker 1 (01:35:45):
But he slowly becomes.

Speaker 4 (01:35:47):
The babyface, and like you said, this is the kind
of testing the waters all the way to Test Awards.
This is one of the greatest pops in raw history,
one of the greatest moments in raw history as far
as I'm concerned, and I did again place in time
watching this live. Holy shit moment, mind blowing marking out
Chris Jerich.

Speaker 1 (01:36:03):
Would just beat Triple Ahs the championship.

Speaker 3 (01:36:05):
What the fuck?

Speaker 4 (01:36:06):
And then they take it back, But in that moment
you thought he fucking won and it was so well done.

Speaker 3 (01:36:11):
I love it.

Speaker 1 (01:36:15):
My number one, that's racist. My number one is Jericho's
WWF debut on on OBG. You don't hold it in
as high regard because of the follow up, which was
not great, But in that moment, it was fucking incredible
and to me like it's one of the greatest debuts
of all time by far. And part of it is

(01:36:38):
I was watching WCW and I was watching Jericho, and
I was a big fan of him in WCW, so
to see him on the big stage in the fucking
major leagues of w w F was an absolutely huge moment,
and the build up to it was amazing. The countdown
clock to Y two J playing up to Y two
K was so well done as you mentioned before. The

(01:36:58):
music and the entrance and everything was on point, like
perfectly done, and the way he stands there back to
the crowd with his pose, and then the Jericho comes
up on the Titan Tron and everybody goes crazy. So
it was just such a huge moment. And yes, they
did not follow it up well after that, but it did.
It felt like he was a huge star in that moment,

(01:37:19):
and eventually he got to that point. Wasn't immediate, but
in that moment, it just was like fucking a groundbreaking thing.
And I don't think there was a bigger moment in
his career as far as I'm concerned, a bigger like
reaction pop everything put together. To me, that's like when
I think of Chris Jericho, that's the one defining moment

(01:37:40):
I think of.

Speaker 3 (01:37:41):
I think deathmatch.

Speaker 1 (01:37:43):
I'm sure you do. Yeah, that should suck.

Speaker 3 (01:37:46):
It did not suck. It was incredible And you're but
I was saying, I was thinking about.

Speaker 1 (01:37:54):
Sucked. You want to fucking on the show.

Speaker 3 (01:37:59):
Yeah, I wish you got are more like Chris Jeter.

Speaker 1 (01:38:03):
Surviving and thriving. I think we do every week actually
with you.

Speaker 3 (01:38:06):
Yeah, all right, bye, that's the atro

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