Episode 765: WWE Survivor Series Breakdown

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 3 (00:15):
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Speaker 4 (00:32):
Ye.

Speaker 2 (00:35):
Sure, the.

Speaker 3 (01:04):
Guys, let's time for some more evergreen content. This time
we're doing the best moments in Survivor series, pay per
view history, premium live event history.

Speaker 5 (01:18):
I still hate that. I still hate it.

Speaker 3 (01:20):
I also hate yeah, well I have to reference it
in Yes, I hate doing little the little fucking things
and be like p l E. I gotta reference pl
from this moment forward. Oh gott, I hate it PPV baby. Also,
I missed the autocorrect amazingness.

Speaker 6 (01:37):
Of paper view.

Speaker 3 (01:39):
There's nothing I love more than that, dude, it really
is not. So yeah, inside of your job, yeah, hell yeah.
Managing editor over here, Hello Heller, Okay, So mikey, I
explain what's gonna happen. Uh.

Speaker 4 (01:55):
So, we are giving a list of the top ten
Survivor series moments of all time from the very Sarar
series nineteen eighty seven to present, and we're gonna each
go one by one and see who has the best list. Afterwards,
people can vote Petron dot Com, slash Ring, Rost Radio.

Speaker 3 (02:10):
Oh yeah, well, I guess you took Pj's job. DJ.

Speaker 5 (02:14):
What are you gonna do now that he took your job?

Speaker 4 (02:17):
Just sit back and relax?

Speaker 3 (02:18):
Howbou are you gonna blow him shit? I was wild
to hear the way you said it. Relax, Bundy, I'm
gonna make your fucking curls toe.

Speaker 4 (02:26):
That wasn't the implication, but we'll go with it.

Speaker 3 (02:28):
Also said, I'm gonna make your curls toe. I'm having
a day. I gotta smoke this week. I haven't smoked
all day to day. Man, I got a family to forget.
So Mike your why don't you start us off with
some of your honorable mentions? Uh?

Speaker 4 (02:40):
Sure, I've got the gobbledee hooker hatches in nineteen ninety.

Speaker 5 (02:45):
That made my list. That made my list.

Speaker 3 (02:47):
A lot of.

Speaker 4 (02:48):
People hate that moment. And yes, it's kind of sucked,
but very upset our series so many times that.

Speaker 3 (02:54):
It's very wrong, so bad. It's super super fun. It's
light hard if you're if you're not looking at like
a see word, as pre Bella said, you're fucking gonna
have a Nikki Bella almost said it.

Speaker 5 (03:05):
You're gonna have a good time with it.

Speaker 3 (03:07):
They just don't overthink it, man, have a good I
think people this generation especially, they just overlooked the really
great moments because they're so stuck up, you know what
I mean?

Speaker 2 (03:15):
Let you hear them.

Speaker 3 (03:17):
What's left of it?

Speaker 2 (03:20):
Website?

Speaker 3 (03:20):
Do we saw have a website? I pay? I paid
ten dollars a month or ten dollars a year for that.

Speaker 1 (03:30):
Dude.

Speaker 4 (03:30):
You remember we did the A M A on their
one time, like nobody showed up.

Speaker 5 (03:36):
I think it was three guys and then one of
them was.

Speaker 3 (03:38):
Actually us in disguise asking good questions. Everybody else is
asking dumb ship like how long is your dick? And
we're like you do you you know for sure we're all.

Speaker 4 (03:48):
Growers, not shot one asking how long is your dick?

Speaker 3 (03:52):
I did did just he stopped talking to us? Remember
that's true? Good?

Speaker 4 (03:59):
Who oh yeah?

Speaker 5 (04:00):
I asked about dick.

Speaker 2 (04:02):
And he was like he sucks.

Speaker 4 (04:04):
Anyways. Also, I have for honorable mentions nineteen ninety six
Sid Murders, Jose Lathario and then beat Shaw Muggles for
the WF title. I remember watching that live and it
was I was very sad.

Speaker 3 (04:16):
I've never seen someone hate Jose Lathario more than Mikey.

Speaker 5 (04:20):
It is wild because times.

Speaker 3 (04:22):
He brought HBK down so much with this literally created him.

Speaker 4 (04:26):
There's nothing worse than like the coolest fucking guy wrestling
seans coming to the ring and then there's this old
man next.

Speaker 3 (04:31):
To this old Mexico dude who's like, like, like Joe
Michaels I did that.

Speaker 4 (04:36):
Uh, I'm sure you were incredible in the fifties, but
we don't want to see.

Speaker 1 (04:40):
Those problematics now.

Speaker 4 (04:42):
And then in ninety nine kids run over by a car.
She did it for the wrong that's right, your honorable mention. Yeah,
that's honorable.

Speaker 2 (04:50):
Mention significantly higher.

Speaker 4 (04:52):
It wasn't actually a good moment, It was a bad
It was for a year what Yeah, and then twenty
two the Undertaker's farewell retirement.

Speaker 3 (05:05):
But did not did not sniff my fucking list. What's
worse that or his podcast now?

Speaker 4 (05:10):
Jesus Christ podcast now is one of the worst things,
one of the worst.

Speaker 5 (05:15):
His wife is unbearable to listen to talk.

Speaker 3 (05:18):
She rans somebody I got from the bottom mid Yeah,
fucking I don't deserve to be Holy Ship. Okay, so
let's start with Mike's number ten.

Speaker 5 (05:28):
Let's get into this. Oh ba, I'm sorry, what are
your honorable mentions?

Speaker 2 (05:31):
I'm so sorry. Yeah, I am mentions his first match
at Survivors Series ninety nine, Stone High stone Hole drops
Triplation from the forklift in two thousand that wild.

Speaker 3 (05:42):
Hold on Higher Higher Higher.

Speaker 2 (05:46):
Uh beat the Alliance in two thousand and one, did
make the list, ending the ending the did not. I'm
taking it Buried Live in two thousand and three. Goldberg
beats brock Lester in ninety seconds twenty sixteen and brock
Lesner versus Nebri twenty eighteen.

Speaker 5 (06:03):
Just yes, that is deserves to be on the list.

Speaker 2 (06:07):
It wasn't exactly like a moment, so I just need
to like, actually, that did not make my list because
it was in a moment.

Speaker 1 (06:12):
Yeah, so I just need to say it with me.

Speaker 4 (06:15):
I'm actually shocked because Donny will usually just ignore it
and just say like match, It's like, that's not.

Speaker 3 (06:21):
I kept it to moments, But honestly, I couldn't pick
one money him him monkey crawl into the ring, I
don't know him sliding out of the ring as brock
less is turning as red as the raw logo.

Speaker 5 (06:33):
I mean, like that was that's such a good match.

Speaker 2 (06:36):
God the Rock debut in ninety six, but that was
kind of.

Speaker 5 (06:38):
Shitting yeah rock in my no one cares all right.

Speaker 4 (06:41):
Number ten, Mike, My number ten is from two thousand
and two.

Speaker 2 (06:46):
Beg yep.

Speaker 4 (06:47):
It's Paul Hayman turning on Brock Lesner helping Big Show
win the w Championship.

Speaker 2 (06:54):
Huge moment.

Speaker 4 (06:55):
I mean, obviously in retrospect, now, how many times has
Paul Hyman like turned on Brock buzzer turned in general,
But at the time, he was the guy that guided
Brock to the top, made Brock the next big thing.
Brockats so over and so hugely popular that he just
kind of organically became a baby face. And this was
kind of what they did to launch that. Uh So

(07:15):
when you look at it that way, uh, you know,
the star power that Brock ultimately had and what he became.
This was a huge moment in his career and Hamn's
career and in just ind to be history in general,
and a shocking moment too.

Speaker 3 (07:28):
Did not make my list. I don't have Big Show
heel turns on my fucking list.

Speaker 4 (07:32):
Ever, it's not a big show heal turn. He was
already Hel's a Paul Haman turn. But I'm gonna and
Healer turn in a rock.

Speaker 3 (07:39):
Baby, that is true. It's a Brock bay face turn.
It's a big show heel turn. I'm counting it's a
swish Beja Well.

Speaker 2 (07:48):
I can't believe this actually happened, Mike, because I was there.

Speaker 3 (07:51):
It's a Vira.

Speaker 2 (07:52):
SERTs two thousand and two. I thought it was gonna
be called a mark for having this as my number ten.
So I am aligned with you, like this is my
number ten. It was such an amazing moment watching livee
you just.

Speaker 3 (08:02):
Don't even fill out your list until he talks.

Speaker 2 (08:06):
I've been done with my list for weeks.

Speaker 5 (08:08):
Yeah, it doesn't seem.

Speaker 4 (08:09):
I was done with I've been done with my list
for twenty four hours, with.

Speaker 3 (08:14):
His for negative eighteen minutes or however long this lasts.

Speaker 2 (08:19):
No. Yeah, amazing moments being there live. I thought this
match was fucking awesome. Brock just tossing big show around
it with such a fucking spectacle, and then just a
shocking moment that Paul Haymen turning on Brock. I mean,
this was so early on in Paul Hayman's managerial career
in WW, like they were only together for well like

(08:41):
seven months or so.

Speaker 1 (08:42):
If that it was just you didn't think about this
being a thing.

Speaker 2 (08:46):
You was awesome.

Speaker 3 (08:48):
You don't no one else, No one saw this coming.
Everyone did. You just just a little mark you didn't.

Speaker 5 (08:53):
Understand that is good.

Speaker 2 (08:55):
That's how you.

Speaker 3 (08:56):
Everyone knew Paul.

Speaker 2 (08:57):
I don't think people were predicting.

Speaker 3 (08:59):
Everyone knew Paul and from fucking WCWECW, and you're like,
this new guy is really good.

Speaker 2 (09:04):
I like this guy in WW. He wasn't managing except
for the FU.

Speaker 3 (09:08):
Number ten is Kurt Angle's debut in nineteen ninety nine.

Speaker 5 (09:16):
We had a he had a cup of tea in
e c W.

Speaker 2 (09:21):
He shut offended by He seriously was.

Speaker 3 (09:25):
Like, what the hell?

Speaker 5 (09:28):
Yeah, that's honestly very true.

Speaker 1 (09:30):
That was the.

Speaker 3 (09:34):
Night one. He was not ready for that jelly. He's
an American hero, understood what wrestling was. He's a gold
medalist American hero. He comes to Philadelphia and they fucking
blew his dumb ass out the door, and he's like,
I don't get it, but he guess what.

Speaker 5 (09:52):
Guess what?

Speaker 3 (09:53):
He was dumb that night, never dumb again. One of
the greatest of all time. Like a shooting star he
came to be, came too quickly all over our shorts.

Speaker 4 (10:03):
Like a Donwold.

Speaker 3 (10:05):
Hey, no, I listen, man, I go as long as
I'm allowed to go, and sometimes I gotta finish myself.

Speaker 2 (10:10):
Damn.

Speaker 5 (10:11):
Hey, this is what it is.

Speaker 3 (10:12):
Brother. I will just talk about it. But the kurd
Angle's debut at nine, that's my number ten. Mike, you
are you're number nine.

Speaker 4 (10:18):
I think in retrospect, obviously it's a big moment, that
kurd Angle debut. But like him against Sewan Stasyaby really
cared about him. That is not really so you're.

Speaker 5 (10:27):
First off, you obviously didn't love Stan and that's a
you problem.

Speaker 1 (10:32):
Champions.

Speaker 3 (10:33):
Yes, I'm about to heart punch.

Speaker 5 (10:35):
The ship out of you.

Speaker 2 (10:36):
He's the heart punch guy right here.

Speaker 5 (10:39):
See I'm cool, dude. I know it's up, Dude. I
gotta wrest him down.

Speaker 2 (10:42):
Dude, it's a good move.

Speaker 4 (10:45):
My number nine is Kurt Angle the debut you No,
I'm kidding. It's Kurt Angle.

Speaker 3 (10:52):
Screws over screws.

Speaker 4 (10:54):
Over Stone Cold, Steve Austin and Team w CW helps
Team w w F win uh being Vasion matchup in
two thousand and one. Uh, you know that is one
of the probably the biggest Survivor Series matchup all the time,
because of the star power, because of what it meant
at the time, and you know, realizing now that the
Invasion was nowhere near what it could and should have been,

(11:15):
and that you know, it didn't end in the way
that we would have wanted it for too, and like
they were missing key guys from WCW. It's just it
was so ill faded in a lot of ways. But
at that time, it was the biggest thing imaginable and wrestling,
And to have that swerve at the end I thought
was great with you know, angles siding with Team WWF,

(11:36):
and of course we all wanted the good guys Team
WWF to win, so it was a great moment.

Speaker 3 (11:42):
I have a friend of mine who is twenty years
older than me.

Speaker 5 (11:45):
He's still angry.

Speaker 2 (11:49):
You know this.

Speaker 3 (11:50):
You go to card shows and ship what young WCW
get folding into WWWW purchasing right, So and I still
hate it, but like like you you see these old
her dudes at these card shows and ship, and we're
just like, man, fuck Vince Man. Fu fuck Connecticut and
ship like the just like, wait minute, I never seen people.

Speaker 5 (12:09):
That's because you're pussy. Honestly, you're not the right tables.

Speaker 2 (12:11):
That's what I'm realizing.

Speaker 1 (12:13):
By to back hills.

Speaker 5 (12:17):
It's the outside the thing, Nina.

Speaker 2 (12:20):
That was the end of your story.

Speaker 4 (12:22):
Yeah, it wasn't a good He never said it was
a good one.

Speaker 5 (12:25):
Never. I don't tell good stories. You should know that
you were expected more.

Speaker 3 (12:30):
More.

Speaker 2 (12:31):
I'm gonna stay in two thousand and two because I
was there, Donnie.

Speaker 1 (12:35):
Scott Steiner returns.

Speaker 2 (12:37):
I was so fucking hype for this. Sorry much holistic,
absolutely ballistic.

Speaker 3 (12:47):
Were you there for that?

Speaker 5 (12:48):
And it's nine?

Speaker 2 (12:51):
Yeah, I'm trying to.

Speaker 3 (12:54):
I was gonna say he's trying to tell the Mark ships.
He's a little tired of hearing it, so he's like,
I'm gonna back off a little.

Speaker 2 (13:00):
Yes, that is correct, dude. You shouldn't say that.

Speaker 5 (13:05):
It's school.

Speaker 3 (13:06):
Shane Gillis can say it. I can say it too.

Speaker 1 (13:08):
You're not allowed to say that.

Speaker 2 (13:09):
He shouldn't say he sucks.

Speaker 3 (13:13):
Very funny. I don't care what you say.

Speaker 2 (13:15):
Very overrated, Yeah I agree with that anyways. Scott Steiner
not overrated never overrated. He was fucking amazing during w
CW's only good period of July two thousand and to
March two thousand.

Speaker 3 (13:29):
Correct, Scott Steiner.

Speaker 2 (13:32):
The greatest.

Speaker 4 (13:32):
What about July ninety six to August ninety six.

Speaker 2 (13:36):
No, you got good wealth.

Speaker 5 (13:39):
He's just don't listen to him. Don't listen to him.
He's just being hateful.

Speaker 2 (13:42):
But Scott Steiner, he when I was watching ww was like,
this guy is fucking awesome. He needs to be in WWF.
And it finally happened longer than I thought it would,
but Survivors Search done, perfect fucking time for him to
come in and he just destroys Chris Newinsky and Matt Hardy.
Just such a fun segment and then it's forced to
Joe piece of ship.

Speaker 6 (14:04):
The place went absolutely not Yeah, that said what I said.

Speaker 1 (14:06):
That was incredible.

Speaker 2 (14:07):
Okay, my love Scott's tyder.

Speaker 4 (14:08):
But he couldn't really hack it at that time in
ring wise. That's why he didn't.

Speaker 3 (14:13):
That's not that's not do this. We're not doing this.

Speaker 5 (14:16):
Really, we're not doing It's not.

Speaker 3 (14:18):
Triple h couldn't hang with him, and he had to
fucking pull on Vince's dick to get him to fucking
win that match. Don't even start with me, dude, don't
even start with me. Number nine for me is the appearance. Okay, Mike,
let's go, let's get back in the way back machine.

Speaker 2 (14:32):
Is this the cooker?

Speaker 3 (14:33):
No, he's much higher, So good. We go back to
nineteen ninety four. Okay, yeah, I'm an impressionable just turn
seven year old.

Speaker 4 (14:45):
Is this about the Undertaker's American flag cloak?

Speaker 2 (14:49):
No?

Speaker 5 (14:50):
Even better. I was a big fan of this guy
in his television show.

Speaker 3 (14:55):
Chuck Norris's appearance in nineteen four, I marked so hard
for Texas Ranger at the Goddamn Survivor series and it
was a coffin match too, to keep everybody in line
and ship. And he kicked a little ass. He did.
He kicked a little ass. So Chuck Norris in nineteen

(15:16):
ninety four. Big moment for me.

Speaker 2 (15:19):
So Chuck Norris kicks a little ass as well?

Speaker 6 (15:22):
Right for your kicks a little l I l as
a little ass.

Speaker 3 (15:27):
You remembered, he's a legit tough guy. It's a great moment.

Speaker 2 (15:30):
It was a fun moment.

Speaker 3 (15:32):
We always thought about celebrity appearances and they do pop
me sometimes, especially when I really love the person, and
I've always loved Chuck Norris.

Speaker 4 (15:38):
He's like because the white Bruce Lee right. The previous
casket match was when all the hegels came out and
was gonna be undertakers. So that's why you know that
was happening.

Speaker 5 (15:51):
Fuck no, dude, he came out.

Speaker 3 (15:53):
Guess who comes out? Mister Fuji comes out?

Speaker 5 (15:55):
Because what happens.

Speaker 3 (15:57):
Fucking rate your fucking dome.

Speaker 2 (16:04):
My number eight is from twenty twenty two.

Speaker 4 (16:09):
Sammy Zaine hits Kevin o Ons with the low blow,
helps the blood Line win, and Stan Paul in War Games.

Speaker 5 (16:16):
Come close to making my list.

Speaker 4 (16:18):
Stupid, don't care, Don't care. It's an incredible pick. This
is maybe the greatest War Games of all time. We
got the blood Line altogether. We got Sammy Zane as
part of the team going in. It's like, you know,
he's being pulled in two directions. Is he gonna stick
with the blood Line? He's gonna go with his buddy
Kevin Owens. He has to make a choice in the
middle of the match, and if they said choice, he

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screws over Kevin Owens. He helps the blood Line win
and they all stay. They got their matching red and
black gear looking fucking sick all throwing up the ones
after the match. What a fucking moment, What a moment.

Speaker 2 (16:52):
That's an amazing match.

Speaker 4 (16:53):
One of the greatest, one of the greatest things in
pro wrestling history, the blood Line, and this was the
peak of it.

Speaker 3 (16:59):
Okay, my eight for the record, I'm not gonna say
it is, but my eight far superior.

Speaker 2 (17:05):
It's the cooker, my number eight. We recently watched this
maybe in the past year. I guess last year. The
Mankind Screwjob Corporate Champion, the goal in nineteen ninety eight,
I really get a bit higher. Yeah, I love to throwbacks,
and so calling back to the Montreal Screwjob and doing
it against Mankind when he's being manipulated and people didn't

(17:28):
see that coming of the rock is on the ascent
Us rewatching that we really enjoyed that pay per view,
the whole through line of the show. So may because
it's a little fresh in my mind. But nine ninety eight,
number eight, is.

Speaker 3 (17:40):
That that's what he said? I quit?

Speaker 1 (17:43):
No, that's the world mumble.

Speaker 3 (17:44):
Oh, so what happened here again? I'm confused.

Speaker 1 (17:47):
It's when they did the screwjob on man The.

Speaker 4 (17:49):
Deadly Games Tournament Championship in the finals. We did.

Speaker 3 (17:53):
Just watch it. Speak for yourself.

Speaker 5 (17:54):
I didn't enjoy it.

Speaker 3 (17:57):
Yes you did.

Speaker 2 (17:58):
You were on the retro enjoying.

Speaker 3 (17:59):
I mean I enjoyed the show overall, but the moment
you're talking about, I did not enjoy.

Speaker 5 (18:03):
I thought it was a poo poo.

Speaker 3 (18:04):
I thought it poo.

Speaker 1 (18:06):
No, that's a smart ending.

Speaker 5 (18:08):
Disagree.

Speaker 3 (18:09):
So Ca'm sorry.

Speaker 5 (18:10):
I did not make the fucking list.

Speaker 3 (18:11):
I'm sorry to tell you this, and my number eight
superiod of both is let's go all over that time
machine to nineteen ninety for one of the greatest debuts
of all fucking time.

Speaker 4 (18:22):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 3 (18:23):
Do you think I'm talking about Undertaker? Nope, I'm talking
about Crack that egg, mean Jean, here it comes. What
the hell could it be? Holy fuck? It's a Guerrero
dressed like elp O.

Speaker 5 (18:35):
Y'all.

Speaker 3 (18:36):
That ship is wild, old dude, and I love it
to death.

Speaker 2 (18:39):
I don't think he was just like a chicken. I
know he wasn't.

Speaker 3 (18:43):
Can What do you call it?

Speaker 5 (18:44):
Turkey?

Speaker 3 (18:45):
Polio is the only Spanish word I know for a
large bird, so it's for chicken. It's chicken, I know,
But like a Turkey's they're larger. It's not heal Turko,
you know what I mean? That would have seemed like
I was being like, I hope Dante why because he
doesn't even speak Spanish, Because because his name is Dante,

(19:06):
you think he speaks Spanish.

Speaker 1 (19:07):
No, I think I think he's common.

Speaker 5 (19:09):
To speak Italian.

Speaker 6 (19:12):
Got that wap ass name, dude, Brandon, that's not so.

Speaker 5 (19:22):
Dango, that's not You're right, that's not.

Speaker 2 (19:26):
The dude, right?

Speaker 4 (19:28):
Oh sh uh.

Speaker 5 (19:33):
Even Gavin doesn't even have a fucking ballace the end?

Speaker 3 (19:37):
Are you even Italian?

Speaker 2 (19:38):
Dude?

Speaker 3 (19:38):
His bullshit? Living this fucking lie because you got stuck.
I might he might be Irish just hiding it. He's
just hiding it because he was an Italian friend group,
you know what I mean, once a week used at
the tann And so I'm like, yo, I gotta get
this Sicilian dude. I need a little bit burn.

Speaker 2 (19:54):
I'd love to the wheels spinning in your head when
I said my name back to you long.

Speaker 3 (20:00):
You're just bj now and it's wild.

Speaker 5 (20:03):
You're like, Brandon, who.

Speaker 3 (20:03):
The fuck's that? Oh ship?

Speaker 2 (20:07):
And I'm not even Italian?

Speaker 5 (20:09):
K Yeah, but the eye is not a true you
know what I mean, that's just a that's a gaz.

Speaker 2 (20:14):
What did Vince so call you?

Speaker 3 (20:16):
Cherry fucking roasted him that you roasted you on Cameo.

Speaker 2 (20:26):
Fantasy and said you were a fucking loser.

Speaker 3 (20:29):
I remember even got here roasted you and then I
got a titty on mind.

Speaker 4 (20:34):
Well, no, we all saw the titty.

Speaker 1 (20:35):
We all, yeah, we all got that one.

Speaker 2 (20:38):
That was a great retrospect.

Speaker 3 (20:41):
Yeah, alright, P that's it, alright, P to that titty.
Someone locked it up.

Speaker 4 (20:50):
Someone literally locked us number eight Vince Doublecross the man
Kind helps the Rock whin the w w F title
in nineteen eighty eight. I believe this was the first
River Series ever without an elimination match. Yeah, but I
did love the Deli Games tournament. Love the concept of it.
Tournamentself actually was asked like all the matches were.

Speaker 2 (21:11):
Like two minutes long.

Speaker 5 (21:14):
Series to remember.

Speaker 4 (21:15):
Yeah, the concept was amazing though.

Speaker 3 (21:17):
Or what was that tournament pay per view?

Speaker 4 (21:19):
Mike, you're you talking about the WWF Wrestling Classic.

Speaker 3 (21:22):
Yes, it was just like literally it had like fourteen
matches on it.

Speaker 4 (21:25):
I believe that was like the next payer view after
WrestleMania the original.

Speaker 3 (21:30):
Yes, because it was like it was a great idea,
but then you got like one man Kang but and
fucking get well, no, I think he was a keeam
at the time. He got like he got like advanced
automatically two rounds or something.

Speaker 5 (21:43):
I was like, what the fuck's going on?

Speaker 4 (21:45):
You might even be mixing that up with the Wrestling
four Tournament because he was in that and he made
the finals and lost the Savage the semis of Savage.

Speaker 5 (21:53):
That doesn't sound like something I would do.

Speaker 4 (21:56):
Okay, But anyways, I love the concept of the Games
Tournament tournament to the crown Champion. The whole story they're
telling going is that Mankind's gone corporate and he's with Vince,
and uh then Vince's totally turns around. It was crazy
at the time because The Rock was over, like fucking
crazy as a baby face. He was the next big
thing in wrestling, and they totally switched around. But you

(22:20):
look at it, and it ended up being a brilliant
move because Mankind got so insanely over as an underdog babyface.
The Rock got to be in the role that he
probably was best in and he still ended up being
a huge baby face. Anyways, down the line, it was
so perfectly done. If you say you didn't like this,
you're either lying or you're a fucking idiot.

Speaker 3 (22:38):
What were you talking about?

Speaker 5 (22:40):
Yeah, it was pretty scarious.

Speaker 3 (22:41):
No, no, it was.

Speaker 5 (22:44):
It was stupid number seventh.

Speaker 2 (22:46):
Joe, my number seven, Donnie, something that we wanted to
happen for so long, thought maybe it would just never
fucking happen. Sting's debut and doll Zigler's run in that
Survivor series.

Speaker 3 (23:00):
You gotta go higher on my list to see that higher.

Speaker 2 (23:04):
That's two things we probably thought we'd never see. Sting
debuting and Dolls they are.

Speaker 3 (23:09):
Getting a ruby still, honestly kind of the same thing.

Speaker 2 (23:19):
Yeah, this was just so much fun. I remember we
were just fucking flipping out over this. Uh, such a
well done debut and Dolls Ziggler being such an underdog
for so long. He came on this podcast very upset.
He did, what do I not do good enough? Do
you everythink great?

Speaker 3 (23:37):
I was like, why is the right time to do
videos on YouTube and not have promos?

Speaker 5 (23:42):
And things like I want to die right now if
you don't sound But you know, he loved our interview.

Speaker 3 (23:50):
I think afterwards, like nice, guys, I really needed that
sad of got I'm almost positive he said nobody's ever said.
That's how true stone cold loved us and what did
you talk? More?

Speaker 4 (24:00):
Right? But he didn't say I really needed this, That's
what I felt like.

Speaker 3 (24:03):
Doo said that.

Speaker 4 (24:03):
I'm pretty sure he wanted to talk to us about
Vince suspending.

Speaker 3 (24:07):
You remember what you remember when fucking Paul Hayman to
me after our call. We laughed like that was a
great job working brother.

Speaker 2 (24:13):
That didn't remember that. That's crazy anyway, I remember you
call it, Jim, one of those worthless people and meaningless.

Speaker 3 (24:21):
I really think we should do a bracket of our
drafts and have to reminisce about all the dumb ship
we said.

Speaker 2 (24:27):
To these people I interview interviews.

Speaker 3 (24:31):
Our draft. Oh, that actually happens later we went back
in time a few weeks or whenever this there, Yes.

Speaker 2 (24:37):
That's exactly right. Anyways, Sting Debuting fucking amazing. Wanted so early,
we didn't get what we wanted out of it, but
for that night we want. Yeah, yeah, he didn't want
him to lose Triple H. But Sting Debuting we wanted,
and we got it and it was fucking awesome.

Speaker 5 (24:55):
Not true, I did not.

Speaker 3 (24:58):
I will say my number seven is an underrated match,
so I didn't even really stick to my thing. I
didn't earlier. Sean Michaels losing I'll say, sew Michael's loss
in nineteen ninety two to Brett Hart. That moment match,
that moment at the end of him losing.

Speaker 4 (25:22):
Michael's losing Brett Shawn Ship from Survivor series, you could
have chosen ninety two and it's when Sean Michaels. I
understand how that's a great one of the top moments.

Speaker 3 (25:32):
Well, Seawan Michaels had to bend the ny to Brtt
and shake his hand afterwards because he realized he was
the better man that day and forever one.

Speaker 4 (25:38):
Just Sean was like fucking freshly singles wrestlers.

Speaker 5 (25:41):
Single, Yeah, guess what, Guess what used up?

Speaker 3 (25:44):
Dude.

Speaker 5 (25:44):
He's like a bald tire, been there, done that. That's
why he's single.

Speaker 4 (25:47):
Nobody want to be having a great time.

Speaker 5 (25:50):
That's not true.

Speaker 3 (25:51):
I think he was married and still having a really
good time. I don't know what to do.

Speaker 2 (25:59):
RD to.

Speaker 3 (26:00):
I literally went in here to say it. I didn't
pick Brian Danielson and fucking uh brock List because it
was just a match, and then I went and picked
just a match.

Speaker 5 (26:08):
So I'm I'm having a bit of a.

Speaker 4 (26:10):
Day here, as I mentioned either a liar or dumbest fuck.

Speaker 5 (26:14):
So I said that the other day too. I referenced
right back. Quite often.

Speaker 3 (26:19):
I look at my son and my daughter and I
say that ship all the time. But like, tell me
you pissed on that seat, because it was telling me
you did it on purpose of your dumbest fuck.

Speaker 5 (26:28):
My So I was like, I'm so sorry.

Speaker 3 (26:36):
So I'm just kidding.

Speaker 5 (26:37):
That's what my wife says to me when I pissed
on the seat. Come on, dude, I believe that.

Speaker 2 (26:42):
Alright, number six on the seat.

Speaker 3 (26:46):
It's dark and ship. Well, here's the thing. I can't
see my dick anyway. I don't know what it's doing
down there. I piss on Carrie where he's pissing in
there se pissing all over the walls and ship. Hey,
you don't know that he's mad myself already funcks and

(27:08):
he knows he is when he wakes up in the morning.
You piss all weird when they comes still in the
tube that.

Speaker 2 (27:17):
Carrey film.

Speaker 4 (27:18):
Yes, okay, so he's going outside normal he's.

Speaker 3 (27:23):
Going to take a piss, and when he pisses, he
starts peeing on the wall, and he like grabs a
picture and starts using the picture to steer the piss
back into the toilet.

Speaker 4 (27:30):
I don't think that's why I'm positive, dude, it was
because he just wake up. It's when you wake up
you could have a fucking yes.

Speaker 3 (27:39):
Okay, yes, I know morning would work. No, when you
when you fuck, after you fuck, you pee all weird
because ship's coming out to it's it's not just your
pe tube. Yes, No, okay, dude, I'm not gonna explain
to see.

Speaker 2 (27:52):
That's how in the movie he knew.

Speaker 3 (27:54):
That's in the movie. Yo, in Yo.

Speaker 5 (27:55):
First off, you didn't have more than one time sex.

Speaker 2 (27:57):
I guess.

Speaker 3 (27:57):
I don't tell you this fucking man in the movie
he knew we had sex with this lady because he
was peeing weird in the morning.

Speaker 5 (28:03):
That's how he knew.

Speaker 2 (28:04):
Okay, okay, brother, I don't.

Speaker 3 (28:06):
Make the fucking rules, dude. It is what it is. Jack,
come one time.

Speaker 5 (28:10):
And try to piss afterwards.

Speaker 3 (28:11):
I don't have to tell you.

Speaker 4 (28:14):
Done it many a time.

Speaker 5 (28:15):
I don't know any food you got me food? Go
baja google it.

Speaker 1 (28:20):
I don't need to google it.

Speaker 3 (28:21):
I'm looking it up.

Speaker 2 (28:24):
I understand what you're saying.

Speaker 1 (28:26):
I just want to get Mike number six, my.

Speaker 4 (28:28):
Number six from twenty fourteen Sting's debut.

Speaker 2 (28:31):
Okay, there you go.

Speaker 4 (28:33):
It's could have been higher, should have been higher if
they would have done things literally completely differently than they did.
But it was still a great moment because we never
knew if Sting would be in and he showed up,
and you know, it was surreal that it happened finally,
and the reaction was great all that, even though we

(28:54):
went in, like I remember, it was kind of the
reports were out there like maybe maybe not. You just
don't know until it happens, and it was still a
great moment. With that said, in retrospect, it was fucking
stupid to bring him in that way. He should have
been brought in by like, didn't need to be involved
with the authority at all, didn't need to be involved

(29:15):
with Triple H at all.

Speaker 2 (29:16):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (29:17):
Dolph Ziggler has the great run and wins the match,
but then they never do anything with him again. So
if everything would have been done differently after that and
Dolph would have gotten properly pushed and saying would have
faced the undertaker. This would be damn near number one.
But because it wasn't, it's totally number six.

Speaker 3 (29:34):
I'm gonna go over here to Reddit for a second.
And some men after sex get double or even triple streams.

Speaker 2 (29:40):
Dude, triple rainbow, rainbow dude.

Speaker 3 (29:46):
I was I'm convincing.

Speaker 5 (29:48):
I think that's what it is.

Speaker 3 (29:51):
I'm like this.

Speaker 1 (29:52):
I mean, I'm not disagreeing with you.

Speaker 5 (29:54):
Sh on, virgin Mike, please.

Speaker 2 (30:04):
Nine years.

Speaker 3 (30:06):
Exactly, consummate that marriage, dude.

Speaker 5 (30:09):
Come on, dude, I tell you, dude, saving marriage.

Speaker 2 (30:12):
I wasn't agreeing.

Speaker 4 (30:14):
I wasn't agreeing that that interrupts your stream, but I
was saying that the more it's.

Speaker 3 (30:20):
Part of the moving, he says. I just said to
the like, he says, why am I paying like I had.

Speaker 4 (30:25):
Sex all my You engageing in course, you have a
heart on it.

Speaker 2 (30:28):
It's tough to aim with that, and that's why you
would be pissing all over.

Speaker 3 (30:32):
The ship gets droopy after once I come I'm done, dude,
my sh it's like, we're done.

Speaker 5 (30:36):
Here, wrap it up, the we gotta go home, okay
it up?

Speaker 3 (30:42):
First?

Speaker 5 (30:43):
No, absolutely not raw dog come, it's that stumbest ship, dude.

Speaker 3 (30:49):
It feels like a little tiny fucking midget strangling my
dick with a condom on.

Speaker 1 (30:54):
It's sad.

Speaker 2 (30:55):
A lot of things, a lot of offensive things today.

Speaker 5 (30:59):
Too real again, who's number six?

Speaker 2 (31:03):
Alright? My number six is the Shield debut in twenty twelve, significantly.

Speaker 3 (31:09):
I gotta be honest with you. Didn't make didn't make
my list. I forgotten, I forgot it.

Speaker 2 (31:18):
It's crazy. We were a little over a year into
the podcast and we kept hearing about these three and
f g W and Donnie wrote the whole article about
Moxley's best article he's ever written, the indie scene with
fucking Tyler Black. And then you're hearing about Seth Rollins
and then the guy Roman reigns he's connected with the
rock and never like's like.

Speaker 5 (31:39):
What his name is Leek or something?

Speaker 3 (31:41):
When we saw.

Speaker 4 (31:43):
And Leaky Leaky, that's the he just heem.

Speaker 5 (31:52):
Watched the video I said, you'll.

Speaker 2 (31:53):
See and just the way that they debuted, coming in
as all dressed in black is pretending to be Caerraman
helping see them punk, Like, what the fuck is going
on here? You know these people, but you don't know
why they're here, right, Donnie, and was everything that came
out of that though, was so special, all the backstage segments,

(32:15):
Mossley running the basically running the group. It was such
a different time period for w W with that because
they weren't really doing like they weren't it didn't feel
special w at that point in time. But this felt
so special. It felt surreal. We I mean, we were
doing the podcast over here, weren't really having that great

(32:36):
of a time.

Speaker 4 (32:39):
To Doda, but this, I feel like this is like brought.

Speaker 2 (32:44):
Everyone together, like this is one of the coolest this
is an amazing debut. They're coming in. They feel like
main inventors.

Speaker 4 (32:52):
Every suddenly felt like, oh exciting because you never know
when these guys are gonna show up.

Speaker 3 (32:58):
Two things real quick. Number one, it was the feel,
but they're just shown up in the fucking matter. They're
coming through the crowd, they're having a great thing. And
the other thing is and I don't think WW anticipated
this because honestly, I think this this was like an
organic thing that got over more than Vince could have expected.

Speaker 5 (33:13):
He put two guys with another.

Speaker 3 (33:15):
Good looking guy, right, but the good looking guy got
the ladies going and the other two guys got the
dudes hype because they remembered them, they knew them a lot.

Speaker 5 (33:23):
They were being rewarded for them.

Speaker 3 (33:25):
These guys got over like gangbusters because they were fucking
really good. They fucking had some support from the fans organically,
and the other thing that was so important, especially during
that time, that was so hard to find. They were
booked so strong. If you weren't John Cena in twenty twelve,
you were not getting booked like this, If you were

(33:45):
not right back, you were not getting booked like this.
Right when they got booked like this, it was like,
holy fuck, this is this is the deal. This is
the one. They were beating fucking Undertaker and Gain. They
were beating.

Speaker 5 (33:57):
Fucking and they weren't just beating them.

Speaker 3 (33:59):
They put on and take to the fucking table, Like
I just remember.

Speaker 5 (34:04):
That was such they they they came in and that run.

Speaker 3 (34:07):
They were the They were the badness motherfuckers in town.

Speaker 2 (34:10):
It was like Vince understood, they fucked up with Nexus,
We're gonna do it a lot better this time.

Speaker 4 (34:16):
He didn't let Johnson to beat him either. And Vince
was sucking up a lot during this time. But thank
god he was at least smart enough to know we're
putting in Roman reigns. We're not putting Chris Hero in
this group.

Speaker 3 (34:28):
I mean, Chrisierra never would have gotten the ladies wet
like a huge aura downgrade. I love, don't get me.

Speaker 1 (34:37):
They made this. They they did the right thing, and
you couldn't say that very often in this era.

Speaker 5 (34:44):
No, not at all.

Speaker 3 (34:45):
It may have been the redeeming quality of about a
decade of the show.

Speaker 2 (34:50):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (34:50):
And my number six, as we spoke about this big
popa pump, the horn, the siren, the fucking horn because
he loud of ship. Yeah, but it's okay whatever, the horn, horn,
the horn, the loud nature of the noise, him coming out,
the fucking the pies, the whole fucking medal thing. What

(35:12):
do they call that?

Speaker 5 (35:13):
Over the head, Mike?

Speaker 3 (35:14):
What was that called? I thought there was Actually, yeah,
it was great, it was, And then you had to
get Triple H involved in his dumb little shorts and
I hate it.

Speaker 2 (35:25):
I hated it two months later because sounds.

Speaker 3 (35:28):
I hated it so much.

Speaker 2 (35:33):
My number five is from nineteen ninety.

Speaker 4 (35:36):
It's the Undertaker's debut.

Speaker 3 (35:38):
Didn't make my list, did not make my fucking list.

Speaker 4 (35:44):
You know, none of us were watching wrestling in nineteen ninety,
but BJ.

Speaker 5 (35:49):
Was pretending for sure, No who was j Yeah.

Speaker 4 (35:53):
Uh, But you look back on it, and I've said
it many times, nineteen ninety Thrivesters is like the VH
state that to watch the most, and that's why I
kind of have memories of the gobbledeg Cooker. But it's
also you know, I saw over and over again the
Undertaker's debut being brought in by dB. He is a
remember the million Dollar Team, Like I have the VHS

(36:14):
to you look on the back, it's like it's like
a silhouette of who's going to be on the team.
It's like a mystery who's gonna be on the million
Dollar Team?

Speaker 1 (36:22):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (36:22):
They really didn't do stuff like that back then, so
much like a surprise at the pay per view who's
gonna be So that's like a special thing in and
of itself, and then obviously the thing that puts it
over the top of the fact that the Undertaker became
who he was.

Speaker 3 (36:35):
They didn't surprise stuff at the pay reviews. The almost
every show felt like it had like this mystery tag
team part.

Speaker 5 (36:44):
It may be on the undercard, but it wasn't you know.

Speaker 3 (36:46):
It was always now they'll do like.

Speaker 4 (36:48):
Oh, there's gonna be an open challenge at the pay
review like stuff like that.

Speaker 5 (36:51):
Didn't I don't agree with that, And I remember the.

Speaker 4 (36:55):
Everything on the show back then they did.

Speaker 5 (36:58):
I remember that, especial w's w nineties.

Speaker 3 (37:01):
I always a fucking surprise, always a tease of something,
because that's what you got people excited, dude, that's how
you got the tune into the pay per view.

Speaker 4 (37:14):
Anyway, became the greatest character of all time, one of
the greatest wrestlers of all time. He was still going
almost fucking thirty years after this, which is amazing to
think about. And the the the debut itself was amazing
because there was a character on like anything during that
time and he just fucking was taking guys out and
he's getting counted out because he's such a fucking badass

(37:35):
and he was brawling on the outside.

Speaker 3 (37:37):
Of the ring.

Speaker 4 (37:37):
But just one of these they show like the well,
yeah that was the character. They show like the little
kids in the crowd and they're like fucking shock, like
what the hell is going on?

Speaker 3 (37:46):
Like so cool, okay, just you let you just like
you're just so cool. The kids crying, it's whatever.

Speaker 4 (37:58):
I mean, that's wrestling, really.

Speaker 3 (38:01):
Fund like Hulk Hogan's saddest little nursery rhyme.

Speaker 5 (38:06):
That's just wrestling.

Speaker 3 (38:07):
Brother, You're not right, that's what still? Yeah, I will.

Speaker 2 (38:13):
Minder five stone call gets run over naxt ninety nine.

Speaker 3 (38:17):
I thought you said it wasn't good, didn't you yell
it wasn't good earlier?

Speaker 1 (38:20):
No, you guys yelt that. I said significantly higher.

Speaker 2 (38:24):
I believe this is when I'm getting into wrestling thanks
to Wrestling in two thousand, Dame in sixty four game.

Speaker 3 (38:33):
IoT Undertaker and Undertaker in nineteen ninety four that.

Speaker 2 (38:37):
I watched that, but I didn't like continue watching wrestling
that brilliant.

Speaker 3 (38:42):
You're two thousand, what you graduated in five?

Speaker 2 (38:46):
No, this is nineteen ninety nine, So my stone colder
run over and get.

Speaker 3 (38:50):
Your age right? So you so you know you haven't
been a fan very long thirty eight we're of a
casual fan.

Speaker 2 (38:58):
Yeah, So it was one get into wrestling, and this
was either like, this wasn't done, This was crazy and
the whole who done it aspect of it. I fucking
love it. I love a good clue is my favorite game.
So this was just such a fucking crazy fun segment
and we were robbed of the triple threat that I've

(39:20):
always wanted to see it.

Speaker 1 (39:21):
The shame we never got that triple threat called the
Rock and Triple H.

Speaker 2 (39:24):
But some pole game ran over. Great way to take
someone out who needs to go have next surgery, and
so I just, uh, it's fucking brilliant angle. I love it.
And then it was Herpeashi that sucked.

Speaker 4 (39:36):
But then they were like, actually was kind of triple H.

Speaker 2 (39:40):
They tried to they try to say that, they didn't
say it.

Speaker 3 (39:45):
My number five yep, yep, Daniel Bryan against brock Lesnar.

Speaker 1 (39:54):
So what did you take off?

Speaker 5 (39:56):
And next shows up we're alling SmackDown. I didn't even
know what it's a reference dudewenty nineteen.

Speaker 1 (40:00):
That's twenty nineteen.

Speaker 3 (40:02):
That was what was I talking about. I legit don't
even remember what I was talking about when I wrote that.

Speaker 1 (40:07):
I was just then showing up.

Speaker 4 (40:09):
I don't know which specific moment, but it was NXC
versus robb or smect On.

Speaker 1 (40:13):
In multiple Shanon Basler was she stood talking in the show?

Speaker 3 (40:16):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (40:17):
So you what you had at number five?

Speaker 5 (40:19):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (40:19):
Yeah, And you just removed it.

Speaker 5 (40:22):
Yeah you didn't.

Speaker 4 (40:23):
Go all right, that's number six now, and then I
bump everything down because that's how a list works.

Speaker 3 (40:27):
No, no, no, no no, Because honestly, the Shield, the
Shield definitely is gonna take over something else up here.
I haven't figured it out yet. I forgot the shield,
Yeah I did.

Speaker 2 (40:35):
I did.

Speaker 3 (40:37):
I think Shield might go to number two because number
two said, number two says Austin gets vihicular revenge. So
I'm gonna yeah, yeah, that thing Shield goes there now, Shield,
that doesn't.

Speaker 4 (40:51):
I feel like you looked up the way that these
are worded. I feel like you looked up like a
list and just.

Speaker 3 (40:56):
Don't Yeah, shut the fuck up. I would never I
would never chat GVT my fucking results. Dude, idiot, you
show the idiot.

Speaker 2 (41:06):
Your favorite fucking ten things.

Speaker 3 (41:10):
Shati tell me my favorites. It's like, hell, yeah, yeah,
I said, someone care less about this. So number five
for me is Daniel, Brian and Brockles. Honestly, in the
grand scheme of wrestling and the grand scheme of covering
this and watching this as a fan, it's one of
my without a doubt, it's one of my top ten

(41:32):
favorite matches of all time.

Speaker 5 (41:35):
It's incredible.

Speaker 2 (41:36):
It's just we should we should do that.

Speaker 3 (41:37):
We should do that list a top ten of our
personal matches, personal top ten favorite. No, because favorites is
like born to be wired and ship like that. Most
of them are not technical masterpieces.

Speaker 1 (41:50):
That's fine, say our favorite.

Speaker 4 (41:52):
I actually like that our top I think we should
like just our top ten favorite wrestlers. Yeah, because that
could be anything.

Speaker 3 (42:02):
List. Oh my god, could you imagine my list?

Speaker 2 (42:04):
Paul Roma?

Speaker 3 (42:08):
Wonderful?

Speaker 4 (42:09):
Come on, Paul, on your top ten po wrestlers all time.

Speaker 3 (42:12):
I don't know. I haven't got the list together yet.

Speaker 2 (42:14):
Okay, I put you on the big board.

Speaker 3 (42:16):
I do, but that's rat's fluid, and that's I saw
that big board.

Speaker 4 (42:20):
By the way, we were at his house.

Speaker 2 (42:21):
There was no big board anywhere.

Speaker 3 (42:22):
But don't you break the fourth wall I painted over
because I didn't want you guys to see it.

Speaker 4 (42:27):
If we saw that big board and Paul Roma was
top ten, I don't know what I would have done.

Speaker 3 (42:32):
You would have been like, hell yeah, like the Horseman too.

Speaker 2 (42:35):
I would have been dumbfounded.

Speaker 4 (42:39):
Number four, Mike, My number four is from d G
two thousand and two. Mm hmm, Sean Michaels wins the
first ever elimination chamber and the World Heavyweight Championship. Now,
I'm gonna be fair, this had been maybe a little
higher if you didn't have Judy Brown trunks and.

Speaker 3 (42:57):
The hair was the worst hair.

Speaker 4 (43:00):
Yeah, I think I would have been higher if he
didn't have that.

Speaker 3 (43:04):
He thought he was Jesus Christ for a hot minute there,
Like when he came back, he was so leaning into
Jesus all of his shirt and shit like that. I'm
pretty sure that was part of the part of like
his his punishment from his wife for cheating on him.
Like he's like, you gotta find God and you really
gotta believe it. So he's like, fuck, I better lean
into this. I don't gonna loser and give her half
my ship. So I'm gonna put like Prometheus sixty nine

(43:27):
five on my shirt and ship like that and just
move on from it.

Speaker 2 (43:31):
All that, notwithstanding.

Speaker 4 (43:35):
Historic match elimination chambers now a staple match in WW
is the first one ever and still the best one
to this day. An Shawn Michael's first world title since
coming back from the injury. Second match, yep fucking star
studded match legends galore.

Speaker 3 (43:52):
One guy's neck deserved to get for the recogno.

Speaker 2 (43:57):
It happened.

Speaker 4 (43:58):
But anyways, on Michael's the best of the bunch as
we all know, and he fucking stands tall. What a
feel good moment. Everybody.

Speaker 2 (44:05):
People were crying not not you.

Speaker 4 (44:08):
Yeah, they were sad and sixteen year old cry happy
that the goat the greatest wrestler of all time finally
did it. He was back on top.

Speaker 1 (44:20):
Mike, I took confetti home.

Speaker 2 (44:22):
I will say, you still haven't.

Speaker 3 (44:24):
Yeah, you don't. You know you don't?

Speaker 2 (44:26):
Yes, I prove it.

Speaker 3 (44:28):
Send the photo. Okay, Okay, motherfucker gonna be running here,
like running down the fucking block to Party City just
to get a.

Speaker 2 (44:44):
Way.

Speaker 5 (44:45):
Party City is going.

Speaker 3 (44:46):
Yeah. The first they come for Party City and I
said nothing, You said nothing, people said something. Next, next
the come for Spencer's and I'll say nothing, Spencer Sis. Yeah,
I love to love it, dude, they come for hot topic.
I might have to stand.

Speaker 1 (45:03):
That was insane.

Speaker 3 (45:05):
My number four is.

Speaker 2 (45:09):
My number four? Is you gonna Taker's debut in nineteen
ninety Are you in? Mike? Could be higher because it's
Undertaker and what character that is. But I wasn't watching
it at that time, and I just had to go
look back in the time machine and be like, you
know what, fucking amazing moments, one of the great it
really was all the time. It's kind of boring, it
really was, though, it really was though it was awesome.

Speaker 3 (45:27):
Really Okay, good job, good yeah, dude, Okay, thank you.
My number four is the Shield. Yeah, the Shield and
uh yeah, in that year and that year that they
came out, that was wild, dude, great that that was
the one. I tell you from the bottom of my heart.
A kid who was born the same day that their

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debut is about to be a teenager. Absolutely fucking wild, dude.
That's thirteen years ago. We've been doing a show forever, dude,
Oh my god. Show. So yeah, that was a great
great most still starts after all these years. I would

(46:09):
I would argue it's definitely approved marginally because easy uh yeah.
And we also don't talk about boxing ranma.

Speaker 4 (46:20):
Yeah, because Mayweather happening again.

Speaker 5 (46:24):
When it does, we are that. Don't even start me.

Speaker 3 (46:27):
When it happens, we are one hundred talking about it
and we're throwing it back last time.

Speaker 4 (46:33):
I'm sure if I'd be back in Mayweather anymore, though,
so we'll see. I mean, I would root for him,
but I don't know if he's got it anymore.

Speaker 5 (46:40):
I don't know if either one of them's got it anymore.

Speaker 4 (46:43):
I know neither one of them's got it.

Speaker 3 (46:45):
Yeah, it's like watching Tyson and fucking was Jake Paul
That was horrible, dude. That's it's it makes Although I
will say Crawford he's very good at punching people, and
I like him.

Speaker 4 (46:56):
Well, he's awesome. But that was a legitimate fight.

Speaker 5 (46:58):
So yeah, I'm legitimate fights, remember them.

Speaker 4 (47:01):
Yeah, that was a great one, one of the only
good ones.

Speaker 5 (47:04):
Yeah, seriously, but yeah, it's boxing r ip.

Speaker 3 (47:08):
Number three mic.

Speaker 4 (47:10):
Uh my number three from nineteen ninety seven, the Montreal Wow,
I'm disgusting.

Speaker 5 (47:19):
Did not make my list, would never make my list.
Why not a moment did.

Speaker 3 (47:23):
Not make my list. I think it's one of the
I think it's one of the most.

Speaker 5 (47:25):
I honestly believe this, and I listen, we don't.

Speaker 3 (47:27):
We don't actually have not talked. It's weirdly as it is.
No one has asked us about it very often. The
truth is, I think it's one of the most irreprehensible.

Speaker 4 (47:38):
Reprehensible or irreprehensible.

Speaker 3 (47:39):
Irreprehensible, which means the opposite one I want to reprehensible.

Speaker 4 (47:43):
It was totally fine.

Speaker 3 (47:44):
It's one of the most reprehensible things that ever happened
in wrestling.

Speaker 2 (47:47):
Historyble uh Brett spitting Vinto's face.

Speaker 3 (47:50):
You would love that and punch munch him in the eye.
Let him punch him in the eye, which is maybe
the only time. That's one of the one of the
only times ever really truly, boy, my heart respected the
fuck Vincent man.

Speaker 4 (48:01):
Well, I actually I respected this decision on Vince's heart.
Being realistic about the situation should have respected it and
understood why it happened.

Speaker 3 (48:12):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (48:12):
But anyways, it's one of the biggest fucking moment, maybe
the biggest moment in wrestling history, Montreal's crew job. I
remember watching it as a kid on the fucking illegal
Scrambler Box and be like, what's going on? He didn't quit,
But I'm like, I don't really care though, because Shawn
Michaels one you want to play I'm like, all right,
you know what, he probably did quit fucking bitch Sean, Yeah,

(48:35):
so you know what, he didn't give up, and then
all that happens.

Speaker 2 (48:38):
Brett's spitting on Vance doing the w c W in
the air.

Speaker 4 (48:42):
One of the craziest things I ever witnessed is a
wrestling I'm only a couple of years in as a
wrestling fan at that point I started watching ninety five,
so my mind is fucking blown here. But then you
go back and understand everything that went into it and
why it happened. And you know Brett didn't want to
play ball RTT all you had to do. You're leaving,
you gotta drop title. Sean Michaels, who's the top.

Speaker 3 (49:02):
Guy, Just do it.

Speaker 2 (49:03):
He's like, no, I'm not gonna do it.

Speaker 4 (49:04):
Sovince is like, you know what, We're gonna fucking make
him do it, which is what you do because you
don't want him going tom CW with.

Speaker 3 (49:12):
He said, just did that.

Speaker 4 (49:13):
The women's telling I'm not gonna be embarrassed again if
I'm a promoter. Great decision on his part, and we
got one of the most insane moments wrestling history, one
the most memorable moments wrestling history. It deserves to be honest.

Speaker 3 (49:25):
It was a poo pooh moment. It was Shawn Michaels
and Triple H conniving. It should have been Vader beating
Brett Hart.

Speaker 2 (49:32):
Well that was a year earlier.

Speaker 3 (49:33):
But here Brett said he would have let he would
have put anybody else over. It wasn't Sean Michaels. It
wasn't Shawn Michaels. It was anybody else. He wouldn't put
that piece of shit over. Act like it's like that's
He's like, I'm not putting anybody over. He said he
would put literally almost anybody else over. It wasn't He
wouldn't put Seawan over. Wanted to put the belt on

(49:54):
Sean so that well, do it, do it after I'm gone.
That's why the company almost went under.

Speaker 4 (49:59):
No better moment, Mike, want to do it?

Speaker 5 (50:02):
You're wrong, BJ.

Speaker 2 (50:06):
Minor three is CM punk returning in twenty twenty three,
one of the greatest trends of all time.

Speaker 1 (50:11):
Didn't think that happen.

Speaker 5 (50:13):
Didn't make my fucking list.

Speaker 2 (50:15):
Dude, absolutely, Yeah, that's this was fucking crazy. At after
Randyorton already returns at the very end of the show
in Chicago, you think the show is over. They got
the little Bug tripleatious paul On over us again like
you did with Johnny Goghano and Smasha Chompin. Next to
you that little bug and see him Punk comes out

(50:35):
though he does fucking nothing, but he comes out and
you get the videos online afterwards. Seth Ronald, he's flipping
them off. He's all pissed off. It is such a
fucking great job to bring him back and overall very
successful since he's been back in aw, very unsuccessful since
the Mpunk left.

Speaker 5 (50:54):
That's not true at all.

Speaker 2 (50:55):
All facts true. The same time you say that's not
I say that's all.

Speaker 5 (51:01):
Yeah, yeah, we officially have it covered. Thanks for coming guys.

Speaker 3 (51:05):
Yeah, seriously, no facts to bag. I even up. But
just like fucking both of us are so sure, no
we I have I have facts too. I have facts too. Yeah. Cool.
W W is fucking charging more than ever. No one
ticket prices are up and fucking they're making more than ever.
And from an in ring quality wise, it's never been hot.
It's worth a billion dollars if we're if if if

(51:27):
we're attributing monetary value to in ring quality, we're the
billion dollars. We're the billion dollars.

Speaker 2 (51:34):
But yeah, Sam Pump came back to I can't believe
he came back all thanks to Jack Perry.

Speaker 4 (51:39):
It's been so amazing to have them back to Yeah,
he's been very ship Honestly mebe wrestler.

Speaker 2 (51:45):
Of the year. We'll see one of the best wrestles
in the world. Uh.

Speaker 3 (51:49):
My number three is let's go back to twenty fourteen.
And when you get dirty with me sometimes you smear
your face paint a little bit. Sting's debut. Uh, adore
the whole thing and door number.

Speaker 4 (52:04):
Three, number three, Yeah, that's shocking.

Speaker 2 (52:07):
Yeah. Do you think he would have had at number one?

Speaker 5 (52:10):
No, that's that's what you again.

Speaker 2 (52:13):
I thought he would have the monstrel screw job in
the top ten, but I didn't.

Speaker 5 (52:17):
Well maybe yeah, yeah, definitely not or maybe I'll change it.

Speaker 1 (52:20):
Who knows, who knows he's gotta have?

Speaker 3 (52:23):
No, he did the cook I don't know what he's
good luck dude, good luck idiot.

Speaker 4 (52:30):
I think he's got like maybe the fucking bank, the
clown and the little clowns or something.

Speaker 3 (52:35):
Didn't make the list, but damn bam bigelow fighting. Uh
the bushwhackers as clowns come on.

Speaker 5 (52:41):
That was that was a good one.

Speaker 2 (52:45):
Maybe Goldberg?

Speaker 4 (52:47):
Yeah maybe, Okay, go ahead, you're talking still staying.

Speaker 3 (52:51):
No, I'm done. No, I was hard.

Speaker 4 (52:55):
You're supposed favorite all time.

Speaker 5 (52:56):
Okay, no, third favorite all time?

Speaker 3 (52:59):
Idiot? What else is there enough to say? We talked
about already it was great and then do fucking everybody
was great. He did that for a while there, Amy
sum everybody.

Speaker 2 (53:13):
I think there was one of the big shows.

Speaker 4 (53:15):
Infainmous Heel turns on that.

Speaker 2 (53:16):
Match too, that is true.

Speaker 3 (53:19):
Yeah, punched my heart right.

Speaker 4 (53:21):
Big Red Rowan was in the match too.

Speaker 3 (53:24):
That's why number three, number two, Mike.

Speaker 4 (53:27):
Number two from twenty twelve, the Shield's debut. You know,
I think part of the reason it's this high on
my list is because you can look back and point
to it and say, this is the moment that three
of the biggest and most successful stars of this era
were all launched on a national stage on you know,

(53:48):
underneath the spotlight, coming in during the World Championship match,
the main event, and just wrecking shop, which is what
they became known for and why we love them is
because any raw and he smacked on any pay per
view after this for the entire time they were together.
Never know when they're gonna show up and who they're
gonna take out, what they're going to do. Legends they
did the fucking the Rock, Vince, any number of guys.

(54:11):
It was just it always felt like a special moment
and you never knew what they were going to do.

Speaker 2 (54:16):
And this was the start of that.

Speaker 4 (54:18):
You know, we knew of of course, Seth Rellins, and
we knew of Dean Ambrose, and you know, they were
all the talk of the the indie fans at the time.
Didn't really know much about Roman Reigns at the time,
so this is the first time we're ever seeing him
or really being aware of him. But I don't think
anybody we all thought it was awesome when it happened.
Nobody could have guessed that. You know, Roman and Seth

(54:41):
are like two of the top couple guys in w
Moxley has been the top guy in aw Like there's
never been I think a stable where these guys are
all starting off together and they're all equally top guys
of the business pretty much, and that's what we got
with the Shield and this was the start of that.

Speaker 3 (54:59):
Yeah, a pretty good moment. Yeah, I'm sorry not top No, No,
I have a top ten. I had a four.

Speaker 4 (55:06):
Oh I forgot you took something else out?

Speaker 2 (55:09):
Good job, no problem.

Speaker 5 (55:10):
Yeah, yeah, dude, listen, I am ready.

Speaker 2 (55:13):
I just want you for that decision.

Speaker 3 (55:15):
Hey, hey, it is what it is, Number two, my number.

Speaker 2 (55:22):
Two, Donnie. I was there Survivors Series two thousand and two,
the main event, Sean Michaels wins the World Heavyweight Championship
in a second match back from four years. It's just
her injury, cool and in the greatest elimination chamber of
all time. You even know what to expect from this match.
They barely gave us anything heading into this match, but
here it was this fucking spectacle of a cage. We're

(55:45):
sitting there, mans Regard. I was there, Donny. I was
sitting there like, holy shit was about to happen in
this cage. Greatness happened in this cage, Donny, monumental greatness
with Shawn Michaels winning that championship against Triple H who
had taken them out over the summer. I was there
for both those matches, Donnie.

Speaker 1 (56:01):
They're incredible.

Speaker 5 (56:02):
Stop referencing me. Stop looking at saying this shit.

Speaker 1 (56:06):
I hate this.

Speaker 3 (56:06):
No, you have you have to hear it again.

Speaker 2 (56:08):
I hate this. You're hearing enough from Mike. I'm telling
you right now that match is unbelievable. It is still
twenty three years later, the best elimination chamber match. How
often do you get to fucking see that where the
very first time the stipulation happens, it's the best. You
can make an argument for hell in the cell, but
for elimination chamber, it is clear, clear cut, that is

(56:28):
the best one. Nothing even comes close.

Speaker 3 (56:30):
JA doesn't hurt you that your you know your prime
was over twenty three years ago.

Speaker 2 (56:36):
No, because you're still trying to get one. What do
you mean, get one? Get a prime?

Speaker 5 (56:42):
I don't understand the reference.

Speaker 4 (56:43):
But he's going to the grocery store buy a fucking
bottle of it.

Speaker 2 (56:46):
You think there you go? Cool?

Speaker 3 (56:48):
My number two is Austin gets regular revenge.

Speaker 2 (56:55):
What is the number four that you removed?

Speaker 5 (56:57):
Okay makes his debut match.

Speaker 2 (57:03):
That wasn't even.

Speaker 3 (57:05):
Match. Did I not say that? Motherfuck?

Speaker 4 (57:07):
I said, Kane makes this time from the thing that
you stole it.

Speaker 3 (57:11):
Bro, I did not. Yo, you're acting really deb that match? Yeah, dude,
can you remember who was against.

Speaker 2 (57:24):
That?

Speaker 5 (57:24):
So that's the exactly.

Speaker 3 (57:27):
Thank you. Yeah, Austin getting run over my number two
moment of all time.

Speaker 2 (57:33):
No, no, no, don't hould.

Speaker 3 (57:37):
Yeah, that's that's what it was.

Speaker 5 (57:38):
Yes, that's it.

Speaker 2 (57:39):
Yeah, that's what it was.

Speaker 3 (57:40):
That it was Trimple's car. He dropped it on him
or something.

Speaker 1 (57:44):
Right, We're trying to getting away in the car and
I remember, yeah.

Speaker 3 (57:53):
Just going to make sure you guys remember Mike and
trim came out next night.

Speaker 5 (57:59):
Let's mine.

Speaker 2 (57:59):
I'm u for one.

Speaker 4 (58:01):
It didn't happen that long ago. Happened in twenty twenty three.
It's Cmpunk returns to ww uh. This has everything you want. So,
as we all know, surprises are a few and far
between wrestling now. It's very hard to be surprised because
all the dirt chies are trying to spoil everything possible
leading up to it. You're even if you're trying to

(58:23):
avoid it, you're somehow going to see it, and you
pretty much always know when something's going to happen. This
was one of those times where you didn't know. Now,
I think we had any discussions about it on the show,
because it's like Sarrivitary is going to be in Chicago.
Punk's not with aw anymore. We don't know if he
has a non compete, what the deal is. Discussions were had.
I don't know if any of us were like this

(58:44):
is going to happen. I was, but okay, I'm sure
visious history is always there.

Speaker 1 (58:49):
We predicted it mine, we might.

Speaker 5 (58:51):
Have no he's talk not you.

Speaker 2 (58:56):
Yeah uh.

Speaker 4 (58:57):
But the fact that it actually happened, and the way
that they did it with the show is over, it's
they've zoomed out. It's like we're leaving, it's over, and
then the music hits, and of course it being in Chicago,
the way the crowd reacted insane.

Speaker 2 (59:11):
I Big mentioned it. He didn't actually do anything.

Speaker 4 (59:13):
He just walks out in his white T shirt.

Speaker 2 (59:16):
It is like, you know, that's it. But the fact
that like a.

Speaker 4 (59:20):
Month or two months before this is dude was like
top star in a w and then all that shit
happens and he's he's fired, and then he comes back
to w B where it was like, is he ever
gonna come back the way that you know his first
ten year ended. You know, he comes back, they bury
the hatchet, And I think what adds this to the
fact that over the past couple of years he's proven
all the people like Donnie wrong. It wasn't a cumpunk issue,

(59:42):
it was a leadership issue in aw Why the way
they did Now he's in a real company in w
W and oh he has no problem with fucking anybody,
and he's a model citizen and he's been model probably
the best wrestler in the world for the past two years,
and w B has them all to himself. It's fantastic.

Speaker 3 (01:00:02):
Shitter is so dude, that is just you just slobbered
all over don my PJ. What you remember one? Hell yeah,
hell yeah my number one.

Speaker 2 (01:00:14):
Hey, so I found a website.

Speaker 4 (01:00:15):
It's called Merchandise and Memories dot com and they have
the fifty best rider series moments. Number sixteen, Austin gets
a vehicular revenge to.

Speaker 3 (01:00:23):
The Oh well, well well, Donnie GPT got it from
that site. That's really cool.

Speaker 5 (01:00:31):
That's really cool to see, dude.

Speaker 2 (01:00:34):
Number twenty three actually shows up.

Speaker 4 (01:00:36):
Ron smack Down said, was.

Speaker 1 (01:00:41):
So happy that during the segment Donnie gets called out.

Speaker 3 (01:00:44):
I literally admitted to you, Oh you're doing is finding
the source of properly thank you journalism, Chuck Morris, because
I bet you got on there.

Speaker 2 (01:00:59):
So yeah, because that website is not a fucking idiot.

Speaker 3 (01:01:05):
Nob fuck you dude. That's a pretty solid list. My
number one.

Speaker 2 (01:01:15):
The most fascinating wrestling angle of all time, just eternally
fascinating to me. I watched documentaries, I watch videos about this.
Whatever I can get about the Montreal screw Job, I
will watch it because everyone has their own opinion of it.
We still don't really know the full truth, in my opinion,
but everything around this is so interesting. Undertaker backstage and Grill,

(01:01:37):
Like I will funck Shan michaels up. Something happens here right,
like all these things, Vince getting punched out backstage. I
wish I wish we had fucking video of that, Like
there's so much right w W backwards, Like how are
you doing that?

Speaker 6 (01:01:58):
How do you know how mirror work?

Speaker 2 (01:02:00):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:02:01):
Crazy got it, just.

Speaker 2 (01:02:05):
Like the fact that they had to think of that angle,
like all the build up going back and forth between
all the conversations that whole weekend you hear about and
Triple Ah, she's the mastermind. Yeah, allegedly.

Speaker 4 (01:02:19):
You go fair to say the only time Earl Hebner
was ever good in his career was on this night.

Speaker 1 (01:02:26):
He's never been good, Yeah, this.

Speaker 3 (01:02:28):
Night he was look at me.

Speaker 5 (01:02:31):
There are certain lines you just don't cross, brother, Mike
back it off, but we are not starting.

Speaker 2 (01:02:37):
He's fine, But that's a good point, Mike, because Brett
goes to Earl like Earl, don't scream me over, Earl,
don't scream you, and he screws him over. You're making
my point. Yeah, It's just there's so much around this angle.
But more importantly, Donnie, it goes and spawns the greatest
era of wrestling. It spawns the greatest feud of all time,

(01:02:59):
Vin versus Austin, one of the greatest characters in Mister McMahon.
So much comes out of this one moment. That is
Brett Hart isn't so selfish? We don't get unbelievable. Sew
Michaels was selfish? How was he because he made himself?

Speaker 3 (01:03:17):
No he wasn't. No, he was he was doing what
was right for him.

Speaker 2 (01:03:20):
Well, that happened to a line that's.

Speaker 3 (01:03:22):
Not true that in your dumb ship opinion, in your
dumb ship opinion, that the attitude was sucked until he left.

Speaker 2 (01:03:28):
If Shawn Michaels isn't just like high old, isn't my turn.

Speaker 3 (01:03:32):
To do number one?

Speaker 1 (01:03:33):
Or what.

Speaker 2 (01:03:35):
Number one?

Speaker 3 (01:03:37):
My number one is a Survivors series shocker, that's what
That's what someone else wrote here, like what is it
what you want to it's gold Bird defeating brock Lesner
in twenty sixteen.

Speaker 5 (01:03:56):
One of the greatest matches I've ever seen in my life.

Speaker 2 (01:03:59):
What it is?

Speaker 3 (01:04:01):
We didn't you didn't? How about how about the time
we saw it in WrestleMania too. That's another evend That
was awesome. I was both awesome, dude.

Speaker 1 (01:04:08):
That was an actual match. This was just like two
spirits of jack Hammery. You're done.

Speaker 5 (01:04:12):
That's all we needed that night, dude.

Speaker 3 (01:04:14):
Sometimes you have.

Speaker 2 (01:04:17):
The first round, warfare becomes reality.

Speaker 3 (01:04:23):
It's you know, fantasy warfare. I guess what happened to it?
I mean became reality, dude, and we saw it. Yeah,
it was an honorable mention for you. Yea, this is
my number one.

Speaker 4 (01:04:34):
Very not at all for me.

Speaker 3 (01:04:39):
You couldn't even didn't even think about it. They don't
even think about it.

Speaker 2 (01:04:44):
Literally, this is crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:04:46):
No one no one expected this. This is great.

Speaker 2 (01:04:49):
This is a great booking.

Speaker 5 (01:04:51):
Thanks man, appreciate that, dude.

Speaker 3 (01:04:52):
But yeah, I didn't talk to you.

Speaker 2 (01:04:55):
I'm sorry.

Speaker 3 (01:04:56):
Just let lean into it.

Speaker 5 (01:04:58):
Yeah, it was a really fun moment. I had a
great time with it.

Speaker 2 (01:05:02):
Okay, So on that note, Paton ring Russ Radio vote
for who has the best top ten list.

Speaker 5 (01:05:14):
Make please.

Speaker 3 (01:05:16):
Yeah, I guess I guess you've been telling us. You've
been screaming from the hills. You've been saying, where's that
evergreen content? Well, guess what, we got some top ten
lists for you today. I'm very excited we're doing Survivor
series stuff.

Speaker 5 (01:05:34):
It's the Mike you explain.

Speaker 4 (01:05:37):
Uh, yeah, we are gonna be the start at least,
uh naming our ten greatest Survivor Series elimination match teams
of all time. It's your four on four, your five
on five traditional Survivor series matches. What are the greatest
teams in the history of that match in the Survivor
Series pay per view history.

Speaker 3 (01:05:56):
Yeah, okay, So one thing I'd like to say is
when we do things like this, it's fun to go
back to the times that made you most happy, right
like watching shows that you remember as a kid, or
shows that maybe like when I went back right before
Lucy was born, I watched all kinds of wrestling. This
was a time where I remember watching all of these

(01:06:18):
in sequence and it was like, oh man, this I
remember what happened. It's still vivid. It was really enjoyable.
So going back and watching some of this stuff. Again,
I had a lot of fun doing these, more fun
than I have.

Speaker 5 (01:06:29):
Doing like current wrestling.

Speaker 3 (01:06:31):
So my quick question to you, Mike is real quick,
do you think wrestling really is better today or do
we remember it more? Finally, because we were younger then.

Speaker 4 (01:06:43):
So I think that nostalgia plays a big role in
why we enjoy stuff from the past and think that
it's better in a lot of ways. But I do
think there were certain parts of old wrestling that were better.
I mean, like now, the athletes are better and the
shit they can do in the ring is better, But
I think things were more simplistic back then and story

(01:07:03):
driven at times, and that kind of stuff was better.

Speaker 3 (01:07:07):
I could point to the date it was. It was
nineteen ninety five. Sean Michaels was the death of wrestling
and his dumb ship attitude and all that I can
point to it. You just agree with it.

Speaker 2 (01:07:19):
So he created the X, he created the edge.

Speaker 5 (01:07:21):
He did not he he did that. He certainly did
not do that. One did not.

Speaker 3 (01:07:27):
That was nw nWo created that whole era of wrestling.

Speaker 2 (01:07:31):
But BJ.

Speaker 3 (01:07:34):
Explain to everybody how they can participate in stuff like
that when they can't, right, they're not allowed to participate
in something like this. This is not a Patriot plug
Patreon here, No is PJ gone.

Speaker 2 (01:07:48):
No, I'm here, I'm here.

Speaker 3 (01:07:53):
Did you want to plug Patreon or no?

Speaker 2 (01:07:54):
Did you know? No? I feel like you're doing I
feel like you're doing a great job.

Speaker 5 (01:07:58):
Really, that's what you felt right there.

Speaker 4 (01:08:02):
Listen to this early if you went to Patriots Radio.

Speaker 3 (01:08:04):
There you go. Thanks.

Speaker 5 (01:08:06):
See somebody's got professional is.

Speaker 3 (01:08:10):
Uh So Mike start us off with I guess, oh,
we're gonna do honorable mentions first.

Speaker 2 (01:08:16):
I have I just want I have a ton because
I went that.

Speaker 4 (01:08:20):
I went through every sund series start to finish, jotted
down the ones that I liked, and I had twenty
so I did Oh, I had sixteen.

Speaker 5 (01:08:29):
I had sixteen that I liked.

Speaker 2 (01:08:31):
Mh a lot more than that one. I'll just read
one Abam mentioned and they started off in my top
ten lists, and I had to pump them down because
don I.

Speaker 1 (01:08:41):
Agree with what you said earlier about like, you know,
just going back to more of a like how you
felt when you were.

Speaker 2 (01:08:48):
Watching these cards and the teams are being put together
and everything about that. More for that from my rankings
than like Mike's saying like, oh, these are the greatest
teams of all time.

Speaker 1 (01:09:00):
I did more like my favorite.

Speaker 2 (01:09:05):
Okay, thank you uh from two thousand Road Doll, Billy
Gunn China and k Quick.

Speaker 3 (01:09:12):
Okay, I didn't did not make my fucking list, but
did not make my fucking list.

Speaker 5 (01:09:19):
Is that the only mentioned?

Speaker 3 (01:09:21):
Well, I have a whole bunch of Okay, just you
get one.

Speaker 5 (01:09:23):
Everybody gets sucking one.

Speaker 3 (01:09:24):
Mike, you go first. I'm gonna mention one match the
Royal Family, Cheesy Jerry Lowler, crazy and sleazy clowns are
us dwink dink, pink and wink. I know this sounds dumb.
It was dumb. I just want to say that it
was a lot of fun and looking back now, it's

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like the end of the innocence of all this time
because they immediately killed this s guns ship dead. Moving forward,
I'm gonna say one more fuck Beach, I get I
get this. The first ever match on the first ever
Survivors series was at eighty seven. It's the same online,
it's the tag team, the Bolsheviks, It's it's it's it's

(01:10:08):
every Oh no, no, no, okay, no, that's eighty eight.

Speaker 5 (01:10:11):
Oh eighty well, no, it's eighty seven.

Speaker 3 (01:10:16):
It's eighty seven. It's the it's the first one that
they did, this huge, massive tag team one and I
just remember the first time ever saw this. No, it's
eighty seven, the Bolsheviks, the Dream Team, the Hard Foundation,
the Islanders is eighty seven. They lost.

Speaker 4 (01:10:31):
I feel like they did one of those big ones
on eighty seven, one of the big ones on eighty eight.

Speaker 2 (01:10:36):
Maybe.

Speaker 3 (01:10:36):
Yeah. So to me, the idea was the tag teams
all together in the ring like that. They literally circled
the outside of the ring, and.

Speaker 2 (01:10:45):
It was it was so cool to see.

Speaker 3 (01:10:47):
I thought it was such a cool visual.

Speaker 4 (01:10:51):
I got the Perfect Team, mister Perfect and all three
members of Demolition from nineteen ninety.

Speaker 1 (01:10:55):
I mean, I forget I would be on your It was.

Speaker 4 (01:10:58):
Very difficult for me to leave it off the top ten,
but the album mentioned uh and I'll name one more
ten Shamrock, l O D and fucking Ahmed Johnson nineteen
ninety seven.

Speaker 2 (01:11:10):
What it's you mad?

Speaker 1 (01:11:11):
Is? Oh my god?

Speaker 3 (01:11:12):
Not here? Oh my god?

Speaker 2 (01:11:14):
All right?

Speaker 3 (01:11:15):
BJ number ten, all right, my number ten. He got
a car accident or something recently, didn't he?

Speaker 2 (01:11:22):
Yeah, yeah, no, I hope, no, hope.

Speaker 3 (01:11:30):
I don't want wish that on somebody, But it'd be
great for this segment.

Speaker 2 (01:11:35):
What it.

Speaker 4 (01:11:37):
It's not for great for a segment be when he dies?

Speaker 5 (01:11:40):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:11:41):
I've worked in some newsrooms, dude. Anyway, death and Sex ells.

Speaker 2 (01:11:46):
I went back through all the cars, all the tags,
and all the teams and was like, all right, this
one makes me Kielking And my number ten is the
Hardy's and the Doubles from two thousand because it's of.

Speaker 1 (01:11:56):
My favorite tag teams of all time.

Speaker 2 (01:11:58):
They that year is when I'm really into wrestling. They
had the Tables match and the TLC match, trying a
lot of match and so seeing this there, the blood
few that they have, but then coming together for Survivor Series,
I kind of always enjoy that, and so they made.

Speaker 1 (01:12:13):
My number ten.

Speaker 2 (01:12:15):
It's a good choice. It's on my Honorable mention.

Speaker 4 (01:12:18):
So is edgend Christian the Hardy's from ninety nine.

Speaker 2 (01:12:20):
That's my number nine.

Speaker 4 (01:12:22):
Okay, Well, the reason I didn't put them on my
list is because it feels more like just the two
greatest tag teams just on team, and less like an
actual Surviversery team. It is a Survivors Series team. So
I made my honorable mention, but not my actual top ten.

Speaker 3 (01:12:35):
It did not. You want me to go a second
to go.

Speaker 4 (01:12:39):
Mike, I'll go. Uh my number ten. It is from
twenty thirteen. It's Roman Reigns, Zeth Rollins, Dean Ambrose, Cizarro,
and of course Jack Swagger.

Speaker 2 (01:12:53):
List dude, this team did I I had to do
it because it's the.

Speaker 4 (01:12:57):
Only time the Shield were together in a River Series
elimination match. Yep, I remember this match very well. I
remember the Roman Reigns like throwing. It's the first time
I remember Ray doing that spot where you like throw
through Raymisteria, like onto the canvas and he went sliding
out the ring like super fast and fire. But we
fucking loved the Shield during this time. Was awesome seeing

(01:13:19):
them in this type of situation. Then he got Hissarro,
who's also fucking awesome and Jack Swagger, who I admittedly
was a big fan of at that point. But the
Shield and the real Americans all together on one team,
and I'm pretty sure the Shield were the fucking survivors
of this match.

Speaker 2 (01:13:33):
But it was awesome.

Speaker 5 (01:13:35):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (01:13:38):
From my number ten, you got it all the way
back to nineteen ninety in a losing effort the dream
team of Dusty Rhodes, Coco b Ware, Bret Hart, and
Jim Knightheart.

Speaker 4 (01:13:53):
They faced a million dollar team with Undertaker's debut.

Speaker 5 (01:13:56):
Will you see them later in the list?

Speaker 1 (01:13:58):
Possibly?

Speaker 3 (01:13:59):
Oh, I did not make my list, but that was
the Gower Chicken Shit.

Speaker 4 (01:14:04):
Movie nineteen ninety might be my favorite.

Speaker 3 (01:14:06):
Would I say this? I will let me. Let me
just say this.

Speaker 4 (01:14:09):
That's the one I watched most like on I probably
watched one hundred times Mbahs as.

Speaker 5 (01:14:13):
A kid, nineteen ninety one.

Speaker 4 (01:14:15):
That's one with the cooker and then like all the
winners from the matches had like the final match.

Speaker 5 (01:14:20):
Nineteen ninety was one hundred the best one ever.

Speaker 3 (01:14:24):
I loved it. It's not close.

Speaker 2 (01:14:26):
I love it.

Speaker 3 (01:14:27):
We'll see about it.

Speaker 2 (01:14:27):
No, it's not.

Speaker 5 (01:14:28):
It's stupid I have I don't have two thousand and
two one on my list.

Speaker 2 (01:14:30):
That's I like Deadly Games.

Speaker 1 (01:14:32):
Well, yeah that was on the list because they didn't.

Speaker 2 (01:14:33):
Have a survirus elimination. I say that, Yeah, it's your problem.

Speaker 3 (01:14:37):
Number nine.

Speaker 4 (01:14:38):
Please, well, BG, you mentioned yours.

Speaker 2 (01:14:40):
Want to expand this hardy hardy section, Christian, it's my favorites.

Speaker 3 (01:14:44):
Ever, Mark Mark Gallan over here, Jason that was terrible.
Thanks for nothing, I might share it.

Speaker 4 (01:14:54):
I remember now returning the clock back in nineteen ninety three.

Speaker 2 (01:14:59):
The All of Americans. That's for me as well.

Speaker 4 (01:15:05):
Lex Luger, the Undertaker, and the Steiner Brothers. Okay, Lex
Luger never a huge fan like, he's facing the foreign
fanatics in this one. So he's leading the charge for
the USA. He's got the Steinbergers brothers.

Speaker 3 (01:15:21):
They're all Steinberger.

Speaker 2 (01:15:27):
Let's Goberger from shot real Steinerberger brother thirty.

Speaker 4 (01:15:36):
About thirty got the Steers, and I got the Undertaker.
And one of the biggest reasons why this is maybe
my listen is because the Undertaker, you know, at this time,
he just got his black attires, got the gray gloves
or the purple gloves, whatever opens up his jacket, got
a fucking American flag in there because he's part of
the All Americans.

Speaker 3 (01:15:54):
Due they're like, You're like, hold on, this ship doesn't
make any sense.

Speaker 5 (01:15:57):
He's with you, guys, and he's like hold on.

Speaker 4 (01:16:03):
I think he told story where like Vince was like
totally against it, but they like fought for it and
let him do it. But Undertaker one of the grace
of all time. Steinners Lexliger. He was sure over during
that time.

Speaker 3 (01:16:16):
I'll give them that he's over like Gangbusters. Dude. O, wait,
are you saying.

Speaker 4 (01:16:21):
That the undertaker of American Play was stupid?

Speaker 3 (01:16:23):
Yes?

Speaker 5 (01:16:24):
Yes, no, it was awesome. That was That was one
of the dumbest thing.

Speaker 3 (01:16:28):
That's why it didn't make my lists because the stuff
actually kind of lose wrong. It's my opinion.

Speaker 4 (01:16:34):
Can't yell number nine, Remember nine, you're wrong. I want
to be wrong number nine.

Speaker 2 (01:16:40):
Right.

Speaker 3 (01:16:40):
It doesn't have a name because it didn't fucking need one.
Roddy Piper Brett Hart the British bulldog Virgil and they
were losing ever in nineteen ninety one.

Speaker 4 (01:16:51):
I did not even put it on my I don't
mention I almost did, but I saw Virgil like, no,
I don't.

Speaker 3 (01:16:58):
Remember correctly, a bunch of stuff with million dollar Man
going on. So yes, it's it's actually the maybe the
one time that I really did enjoy Virgil purely is
the stuff that he did when breaking away from matcha
uh million watcha man, billion dollar Mancha.

Speaker 4 (01:17:13):
Man Alarmatto man.

Speaker 2 (01:17:16):
Yeah, okay, right, I remember eight going to twenty sixteen
Teams SmackDown the main event AJ Styles, Bray Wyatt, Dean Ambrose,
Randy Orton, and Shane McMahon. This is when rain speared
Shane and like basically fucking killed him.

Speaker 3 (01:17:35):
Was this and it did not make please, did not
make my fucking list. Was this the year Zach Wild
got his junk grab by Natty?

Speaker 2 (01:17:43):
Is that this year? That's all I was gonna says.
The big reason I put this year is that was
the following year, and I had put this year so
I could discuss that because I rewatched it, it was
still fucking amazing.

Speaker 3 (01:17:53):
She just walks up, holds on to him like he's
a railing and who fucking braces herself of them and
he's just he looks down at it like he was
loving it.

Speaker 2 (01:18:04):
That was twenty seventeen and Kray angles GM and he's
just in the middle of the ring by himself, Shane
mcmannon all he's smacked the whole SmackDown locker room, some
invading raw.

Speaker 1 (01:18:15):
In their fucking T shirts and.

Speaker 2 (01:18:19):
Shane just gets in the ring, looks.

Speaker 1 (01:18:20):
At curtain, just goes all right, boys go get him
and everyone just.

Speaker 2 (01:18:23):
Storms the locker room.

Speaker 3 (01:18:24):
You got in the back.

Speaker 2 (01:18:26):
Is is this something a walkie talkie. Well, Kurt throughout
the show had the walkies because he was so concerned,
and all of a sudden, SmackDown just invades from the rafters,
and actually it was very very fun. It was very fun.
But it starts with all the SmackDown just going backstage
and the first people they see is Tyler's so O'Neil

(01:18:46):
and Apollo Cruise and Xavier Woods is just the first
person out and he's all laughing and having fun. He
goes to shake Apollo Cruise's hand and everyone just jumps
both of them and it's just it's just hell for
the rest of the fuck the show for SmackDown for raw.
At one point they go like through a door and
Seth is hiding on the wall and just jumps onto

(01:19:09):
them and Dean Ambrose is fighting for his life.

Speaker 1 (01:19:12):
And then just get there get mauled. It's fucking great.

Speaker 3 (01:19:16):
That's a really cool.

Speaker 2 (01:19:17):
Story, really cool story. I do remember that I enjoyed
the Rovers SmackDown when they would do like the big
invasions right.

Speaker 4 (01:19:25):
Like a lot of times they would do those matches
and there was like no heat to them, no stakes
when they did that. It actually felt like that was cool.

Speaker 5 (01:19:33):
Reason yeah, and now you know I was looking back.

Speaker 3 (01:19:35):
The reason Shane McMahon had such a problem with raw
was they wouldn't let him do raw underground. That's until
later on.

Speaker 4 (01:19:42):
I missed her. Underground was awesome.

Speaker 5 (01:19:45):
Da, what was the this is?

Speaker 3 (01:19:46):
You know?

Speaker 2 (01:19:47):
Twenty eighteen, that's when we got the Becky Lynch getting
for fucking face broken.

Speaker 1 (01:19:53):
Yep, yep, Well because of this.

Speaker 5 (01:19:55):
That's remember the shirt I got.

Speaker 3 (01:19:59):
Shirt she it was the worst Becky Lynch looks like
she got stuck by bees and was also not Becky
Lynches unbelie like. I was like I and my wife's
like never wearing that again.

Speaker 4 (01:20:18):
Due by Number eight is from two thousand and three.
It's Team Austin Sewn Michaels, r v D, Booker T
and the Dully Boys. Holy Shiite Sides. The greatest wrestler
of all time, Sean Michaels, you have the greatest e
c W star of all time, rv D Argue with

(01:20:40):
the greatest w c W wrestler of all time, Booker
T and Argua with the greatest tag team of all time,
the Double Boys, all the same fucking team. Unbelievable.

Speaker 5 (01:20:51):
Didn't make my list, Well, I had Shawn.

Speaker 4 (01:20:54):
Michael, so I didn't think it would even though I
had rv D, Booker T and Double Boys, who you
claim to be fans of.

Speaker 3 (01:20:59):
Huge fan, there's just one albatross really way and down.

Speaker 2 (01:21:02):
You're Virgil.

Speaker 3 (01:21:06):
Triple Him Edge Miss Like if you those guys that
I see, I'm like.

Speaker 5 (01:21:10):
Nah, not that I haven't been down or anything.

Speaker 3 (01:21:14):
I would never Ric Flair, let's go all the way back.
That's nineteen ninety one. Who's that over here? It's Rick
Flair with the Mounte, Ted DBAs and the Warlord with
Mister Perfect, Jimmy Hart, Sensation, Sherry and Harvey Whippleman.

Speaker 4 (01:21:32):
Wait wait, wait, why did this make your list?

Speaker 3 (01:21:35):
Because if you remember in the match, Ted Dbias and
Rick Flair cannot get on the same page. Also, there's
a ton of mister Purfect. But you're then you're giving
me the World mount the first off, he was a
huge I really did as a kid like the Mounte
and I thought the shotgun was very cool. Also, mister
Park's out there all the time in this and so

(01:21:57):
Sherry and there, I know he's out there though it's
part of the match. I'm talking about the team in
the match that's you know, this makes a big deal
and they won. Brother, that's it, bitch, just is my list?

Speaker 2 (01:22:13):
Did that make you leap? No, it didn't.

Speaker 3 (01:22:16):
Sad you didn't have You did not like the mount
he as a kid, No, I don't think you're supposed to.
He was one of my top heels. Dude, I would know.
I didn't like me. I hate watching.

Speaker 4 (01:22:27):
I watched the tapes and then like going into I
think it was Royal Rumble like they a night before
the two day nights before. I think it was Rumble
Night be four. Brett like lost the icy title to
him too, because he had one hundred degree fever at
a house show, and I was like, I remember watching.

Speaker 3 (01:22:45):
It be like some bitch due, So honestly, that might
have been a moment that I also like. It's just
I hated him. He was he was the biggest heel
for me at the time. No, I did, but like,
looking back, like, he's one of the things I remember
the moment. But as a kid, like hating, I hated
the bad guys. I hated the bad guys, But now
looking back, I actually loved them, you know what I mean,

(01:23:07):
I'd love to hate them.

Speaker 5 (01:23:08):
You know what I'm saying number seven.

Speaker 2 (01:23:11):
Please m hm, number seven.

Speaker 1 (01:23:14):
I have here more for the match itself, okay than
the team.

Speaker 2 (01:23:18):
But the team is awesome. Twenty nineteen Team n XT.
It's not so Champa, Damian Priest, Matt Riddle, Keith Lee
and Walter pre stacked team.

Speaker 3 (01:23:29):
We I just remember, just say that every time you
forget to match, you idiot.

Speaker 4 (01:23:32):
I did forget it.

Speaker 2 (01:23:34):
I think I'll mention, Uh, this match is just awesome. Uh, Like,
Keith Lee look like a fucking star in this and
we love that era of NX season. I wanted to
give it some shine.

Speaker 4 (01:23:45):
Remember they eliminated Walter in like very quickly.

Speaker 2 (01:23:49):
I remember that.

Speaker 3 (01:23:50):
Yeah, yeah, that match was fun.

Speaker 4 (01:23:51):
Though, because Keith Lee got to the very end. I
think Roman beat him.

Speaker 2 (01:23:57):
Cool.

Speaker 4 (01:23:58):
Uh my number seven is from two thousand and one.
It's the Alliance Stone Cold, Kurt Angle, rd Booker T
and of course Shane McMahon can't forget him.

Speaker 2 (01:24:11):
Do I have the other half of this matchup on
my list. You'll have to wait and see.

Speaker 4 (01:24:15):
But that is probably the biggest most iconic Survira series
elimination match of all time. Did not make my list, Okay,
I realized that we look back now and say like, wow,
the invasions sucked and they made so many mistakes and
they did, but at that time, in that moment, that
felt like one of the biggest matches ever and it

(01:24:36):
was star stuttered.

Speaker 2 (01:24:37):
As could be, felt like the death of WCW.

Speaker 1 (01:24:43):
That's awesome.

Speaker 5 (01:24:44):
It was number seven for me.

Speaker 3 (01:24:46):
Now, yeah, this one shout out to Mike nineteen ninety
and a losing effort, the perfect team, mister purplesh Smash
and Crush.

Speaker 4 (01:24:57):
I'm shot at major.

Speaker 3 (01:24:58):
That's a great team. I you listen, Demolition is copy
l O D. It's fine. You can say it, you
can be okay with it.

Speaker 5 (01:25:06):
This look at me.

Speaker 3 (01:25:07):
That doesn't make them lock good, that doesn't make them
knock up.

Speaker 4 (01:25:09):
No, no, no, no, Demolition look at them and look
at Demolition trying to look like.

Speaker 5 (01:25:16):
No, no, no, no, that's who they were. That's who
they were.

Speaker 3 (01:25:18):
Even Vincent Man said it was a reaction to, as
he did, losing effort by like Bobby Eaton, mister Fuji ethic.
Guess who's down here throwing salt racist. We're not sure.

Speaker 2 (01:25:32):
Everybody uses salt six six team fully From twenty twelve,
Daniel Brian Kane Kobe Kingston, the Miz and Randy Orton
that he's gonna get mad.

Speaker 4 (01:25:45):
But this is literally my first honorable mention.

Speaker 3 (01:25:47):
That's just really it's so weird. It's so weird that
these are all your honorable mentions said I have why Yeah, Yeah,
I'm gonna stuck doing that ship be like yeah, my
favorite shit.

Speaker 5 (01:26:00):
But like I also had like twenty one, I DONI
will mention that everything you say.

Speaker 3 (01:26:03):
I'm also a lot of Survivors series.

Speaker 4 (01:26:05):
I don't know if you know that. Yeah, dude, it's
the longest running w W pay per view. Yes, I
has WrestleMania.

Speaker 3 (01:26:11):
Yeah, incredible.

Speaker 2 (01:26:13):
I think in the the Triple R era when I've
been watching wrestling, these are five of my favorites.

Speaker 3 (01:26:21):
Is that this is that what we're dubbing this latest
era of wrestling, the Triple R Era.

Speaker 2 (01:26:25):
That's for my career era of watching wrestling. Yeah, since
twenty eleven.

Speaker 5 (01:26:31):
So sad, dude, that's such a long era, fourteen years, Mike.

Speaker 4 (01:26:38):
My number six is one beg mentioned before from twenty
sixteen Team SmackDown, AJ Styles, Bray White, Dean Ambrose, and
Randy Orton and see McMahon. Uh No, I go a
lot of what Beg says, like they actually made this
feel like it was important, like the Brander's brand meant
something with the invasions and all that kind of stuff.
And part of why I picked this team also is
because I was at one of the raws before before

(01:27:02):
Surviva series. I'm not sure it was the go home
If it wasn't, it was maybe two weeks before, but
it was a great segment. Jericho was on the other team,
and I remember he was. It was during the List era,
and he was like he was popping the crowd, putting
everybody on the list, and like all of a sudden,
it's silent and he's like, what the hell is that
and he points at James Elsworth quarter Like. It was

(01:27:24):
a great segment. There was a fucking brawl afterwards. It
was very fun, and I have very fond memories of
that Survivors series. In that particular match, that's what we in.

Speaker 3 (01:27:35):
The business as what we call a cool story.

Speaker 4 (01:27:37):
Bron isn't this what we're supposed to be doing? He
was telling stories of our memories of these Yeah, but
you make it suck.

Speaker 3 (01:27:45):
My number six is the Wholk a maniac. Tulk Hogan
Jake Roberts Acts and Smash from nineteen eighty nine.

Speaker 2 (01:27:54):
Mike, I didn't know you were such a demolition man.

Speaker 4 (01:27:56):
This made my honorable mention.

Speaker 2 (01:27:58):
Yeah, I'm sure it is. Oh my god, this is wild.

Speaker 3 (01:28:05):
You don't even have a backbone with a stands student.
There's a punk ass bitch. Oh you know what, Remember
that dude I told you was a punk ass bitch.
He walks by like yelling at him. He's got nice
hair too. Maybe punk ass bitches got good hair. I
don't know. That's why my hair is dead because I
did know punk be Jennifer though.

Speaker 2 (01:28:23):
So I'll admit no one needed to know this. I'm
in a minute. Hell old snapchu here. I originally had.

Speaker 3 (01:28:30):
Hold on, hold on it. Yeah, before you get started here,
this is embarrassing as ship. Dude, go ahead, I'm not.

Speaker 2 (01:28:40):
It's not.

Speaker 3 (01:28:40):
It's not.

Speaker 2 (01:28:40):
It's not. It's not. You'll see, you'll see. Because I
realized I didn't have Team Austin on here. That's a
great team. I thought I had it on here, and
so I removed twenty nineteen Team Raw, which is pretty
stacked except rons Ricochet.

Speaker 4 (01:28:55):
Kept knowing that was actually that was on my honorable mention, So.

Speaker 2 (01:29:01):
Teams Michaels, RVD Book and Adully Boys like my said
fucking stacked team in two thousand and three.

Speaker 5 (01:29:08):
For are you just changing your list on the fly?

Speaker 4 (01:29:11):
I just texted you guys a picture of my audible
mention so that you believe me that these are I
don't look.

Speaker 1 (01:29:17):
I will look right now to verify. Okay, not that
we need a verification.

Speaker 3 (01:29:22):
He just listen, he told me. Listen the Survivor series matches. Yeah,
I have.

Speaker 1 (01:29:25):
I have more than that, so I have the whole
list of teams.

Speaker 5 (01:29:28):
That's stupid. This is such a stupid thing.

Speaker 2 (01:29:30):
Please, No, it's you're stupid. You're stupid. You're stupid.

Speaker 4 (01:29:36):
Uh my number five is the other half of that
two thousand and one match.

Speaker 3 (01:29:39):
It's Team w w F.

Speaker 4 (01:29:41):
It's the Rock, Chris Jericho, the Undertaker, Kine and Big Show,
I said before one of the biggest matches in Survivor
series history. All the fucking stars you can imagine at
that time, you know, I like w W more than
like The Alliance or w c W. So I was
rocking with them, so they're high on my list.

Speaker 2 (01:30:00):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 5 (01:30:00):
I was right.

Speaker 3 (01:30:01):
They wanted you in real life. Number five, let's go
to one of the greatest tag teams of all time
nineteen ninety one, Big Boss Man and the Legion of Doom.

Speaker 2 (01:30:13):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 4 (01:30:14):
That's certainly not make my list because it was a
fucking cop out three three River series.

Speaker 3 (01:30:20):
Do you remember why?

Speaker 2 (01:30:21):
Well, I went back to look a thousand.

Speaker 1 (01:30:22):
What why are we doing that?

Speaker 4 (01:30:24):
I assume somebody got fucking fired or was suspended for
drugs or something that changed.

Speaker 2 (01:30:31):
Amazing.

Speaker 3 (01:30:32):
Still a great match, great match.

Speaker 4 (01:30:37):
That there's no way that would ever make my most
or my honorable mention.

Speaker 5 (01:30:41):
So you just so you're just saying that mine aren't
going to make your honorable mentions.

Speaker 2 (01:30:45):
No one did.

Speaker 3 (01:30:46):
You're such a fun.

Speaker 5 (01:30:49):
And the perfect team made it okay. Number four, Please.

Speaker 2 (01:30:53):
Going back to twenty nineteen, re won of the best
Survivor Series papers twenty nineteen Rear Bianca, bel Air, Canisler,
ray Eosharai and Tony Storm fucking stacked.

Speaker 3 (01:31:07):
I got it.

Speaker 2 (01:31:10):
I mean some of the bels that's really exist and stupid.
Ria Ripley, Bianca, bel Air, Eosharai, and Tony Storm for
the best ever women's wrestlers and the cancellery.

Speaker 1 (01:31:24):
Who is good but she's very good.

Speaker 2 (01:31:26):
But she's not She's not one of us. Good choice.

Speaker 4 (01:31:31):
My number four is from nineteen ninety.

Speaker 3 (01:31:33):
Mm hmm, this fucking piece of shit. Really, what are
you working in?

Speaker 1 (01:31:36):
Like?

Speaker 3 (01:31:36):
Word? No, you're looking at We're going to have a
bad get to fucking get a word. Fucking account. What
was happening?

Speaker 1 (01:31:46):
Account?

Speaker 2 (01:31:47):
I just fucking it sucks.

Speaker 5 (01:31:50):
It's listen, just just go on.

Speaker 2 (01:31:52):
It sucks.

Speaker 5 (01:31:52):
But you did sucks your listen.

Speaker 2 (01:31:54):
I probably should have been listening all your stuff. You
guys have to send me yours.

Speaker 3 (01:31:58):
I'm not doing that.

Speaker 2 (01:32:00):
No, you have to do it.

Speaker 1 (01:32:00):
I have to post on Patreon.

Speaker 4 (01:32:02):
From nineteen ninety The Warriors, Ultimate Warrior, Texas Tornado and
Legion of Doom. I have I have a bit ho Okay.
So they had the match against the perfect team, which
was an awesome opener on that payer view. The creativity
of this team is why I'm going with it. So

(01:32:24):
not the hugest Ultimate Warrior fan, but you got the
Ultimate Warrior. You got you as the kids, this Tornado
carry on, Eric, and you got the Road Warriors the
Legion of Doom and they are the Warriors.

Speaker 3 (01:32:36):
So that was and it was just around the same
time they did the Warrior kind of front cover on
a summer Slam or was it Survivors series when they're
all walking together talking about Royal Rumble Rumble.

Speaker 4 (01:32:47):
Yeah, yeah, Royal Rumble that time one in ninety.

Speaker 3 (01:32:51):
So the post, the poster for this ninety the poster
for the nineteen ninety one also very awesome. But the
ULTI the Warriors, I'll talk about it.

Speaker 1 (01:33:00):
Oh yeah, that's a great one.

Speaker 3 (01:33:01):
Yeah, the Texas Tornado. Love a Von Eric in there.
And like I said, going back, the altered Warrior, get it,
I understand what he was as a kid.

Speaker 5 (01:33:11):
He's a hype machine. He liked Taul Coked.

Speaker 3 (01:33:14):
I liked Warrior too.

Speaker 2 (01:33:14):
It was the same difference.

Speaker 3 (01:33:15):
Nothing to me. So this was and looking back now,
it's such a cool team. So that I'll tell you
right now, guess what that was Number two on my list, Mike.
There are number two on my list, dude, And what numbers?

Speaker 4 (01:33:31):
And now to your number four?

Speaker 3 (01:33:34):
My number four, The King's Court, Randy Savage, Canadian Earthquake,
Dino Bravo and Greg Valentine along with Queen Sherry and
Jimmy Hart.

Speaker 4 (01:33:47):
No, that one ain't working for me.

Speaker 3 (01:33:49):
Come on, bro, that was a good ass match too,
for I like, listen, I gotta tell you, I gotta
tell you, I liked I liked Dino Bravo more than
anybody else like and I like Drake Valentine the day.
So this is what it is. Do you know, Bravo
I liked the I remember going back and look at
some episodes what they did the body or the bench press?

Speaker 4 (01:34:12):
Yeah yeah, hell yeah, ud like you press nine.

Speaker 3 (01:34:19):
Yeah, it was like six fifty five or something. So
it's still a lot, still fucking a lot. Dude that
goes over a BJ for number three.

Speaker 2 (01:34:30):
I number three. Some could argue best ever, but it's
not two thousands.

Speaker 3 (01:34:36):
We didn't even argue that.

Speaker 1 (01:34:38):
No, exactly two thousand and six.

Speaker 2 (01:34:40):
Triple H, Shawn Michaels, the Hardy Boys, and CM Punk.

Speaker 4 (01:34:43):
Someone might make that argument.

Speaker 2 (01:34:45):
At so High Man, I was just so happy when
CM Punk was signed to w W because I was like, man,
this is like, you know, he's one of the best,
and to see him then pretty quickly is ww career
to be in this position where he's next to Triple A,
Show Michaels and Hardy Boys.

Speaker 1 (01:35:03):
I was like, fuck h, that's awesome. And so that's
why it's so high.

Speaker 4 (01:35:07):
Great my number my number three is from twenty nineteen
Team NXT, Rha Ripley, Bianca Bellar, candicell eoshera Tony Storm
that is one of the most fun Survivor series of
all time, putting NXT on the same level as Raw
and Smack. Of course, they totally went away from that
coming out of this inexplicable reasons, even though they put

(01:35:28):
over NXT like very strong.

Speaker 2 (01:35:30):
On the show. Do you remember who won the main event,
Donny of this pay per view?

Speaker 3 (01:35:34):
I do?

Speaker 2 (01:35:35):
Yeah, series?

Speaker 3 (01:35:41):
Yeah, what ye tell me what year? I don't know.
I don't remember SHANEA.

Speaker 2 (01:35:46):
Basler wins in the main event, Packy and Bailey, right, yep, yep.

Speaker 4 (01:35:51):
That was insane. And I went to the Raw shortly
before this, uh Crown Jewel or melt Slide and said
that they were being held at one point on the tarmac.

Speaker 2 (01:36:01):
That was.

Speaker 4 (01:36:05):
So I got to see like the NXT invasion it
was basically an episode of NX for Smacking.

Speaker 1 (01:36:09):
That was incredible.

Speaker 3 (01:36:10):
Yep.

Speaker 4 (01:36:11):
Uh but yeah, and this this was incredible. I love
the fucking NXT invasion ship that they were doing leading
up to this and this women seem absolutely unbelievably stacked
three teams in that match, and the NXT one was
by far the best, which speaks to the talent that
they had.

Speaker 2 (01:36:25):
What team, Yeah, what a team?

Speaker 3 (01:36:29):
Did not make Number three? I got the million Dollar Team,
Ted dB, the Undertaker, the Honky talk Man, and another
Greg Valentine appearance.

Speaker 2 (01:36:41):
My man's got.

Speaker 4 (01:36:42):
Rhythm and blues on one of his top three.

Speaker 3 (01:36:45):
Let me tell you something, What was? What was?

Speaker 5 (01:36:48):
What was Dino in Greg Valentine?

Speaker 3 (01:36:49):
Was it perfect? The perfect team or the no dream team?

Speaker 4 (01:36:53):
Team and Valentine.

Speaker 3 (01:36:56):
Now, I'm pretty sure Dino and and Greg Valentine were also.

Speaker 2 (01:36:59):
The dream team beforehand, don't think so.

Speaker 5 (01:37:02):
I'm positive of it. I'm positive of that.

Speaker 3 (01:37:06):
Look, for whatever reason, I'm gonna weirdly looked at up
of all the things that we could have done, and
looked up you have Undertaker showed up for the first time.
The Pack and the Undertaker showed up. Not a big deal,
just you know, one of the biggest moments, big deal
history nineteen ninety Uh yeah, so it's kind of a
big deal.

Speaker 2 (01:37:24):
It's my number three, No big deal.

Speaker 3 (01:37:26):
Number two.

Speaker 2 (01:37:28):
My number two, Mike you mentioned, is the allon Stone
Cold Current Angle, Rod Van Dan Booker, Team Shane McMahon,
some of my favorite wrestlers of all time. Like Mike said,
the invasion wasn't a great U doorbell?

Speaker 3 (01:37:39):
You asked me, one, we got a doorball? Is it
something there? Come bring us with you?

Speaker 2 (01:37:45):
Oh man, you really like the invasion.

Speaker 3 (01:37:49):
Someone's invading his house right now.

Speaker 4 (01:37:52):
Invasion?

Speaker 3 (01:37:53):
Yeah, invasion.

Speaker 4 (01:37:55):
Typically you don't ring the doorball with home invasion, but
maybe you do to'll lull them in this.

Speaker 5 (01:37:59):
Yeah, so your raise the door. Then he kicked the
door down right in their face. And do you know
they're right behind the door.

Speaker 3 (01:38:04):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 4 (01:38:05):
At least we have this moment in time encapsulated forever
in case that's what happens.

Speaker 3 (01:38:11):
Yes, it's core. He muted it so we can't even hear, like, oh, Joffrey,
it's you, my ex lover. And then just like bamn,
he said, no, you know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (01:38:22):
All right, I'll do my number two.

Speaker 4 (01:38:24):
You're gonna appreciate this one. It's from nineteen eighty eight.
It's the Rockers, the Heart Foundation, the British Bulldogs, the
Powers of Pain and the Young Stallions. Of course had
to be on that squad. So as you mentioned that,
I think eighty seven and eighty eight they both had
these fucking tag team matches where it's five tag teams

(01:38:45):
against five tag teams. Legitimately, dude's just all over the
fucking it looks like it It looked like.

Speaker 3 (01:38:51):
It looked like a lumberjack match. But if all the
guys are on the apron.

Speaker 4 (01:38:54):
You legit could not like iris whip somebody out of
the rope because they were all on the aprons.

Speaker 2 (01:38:59):
But I just this is like an hour.

Speaker 4 (01:39:02):
Long match, by the way. Also yeah, so but look
at this team. Rockers, how Ford Heart Foundation and britsh
Wallosmere threw the best ever. You got Shawn Michaels, you
got HBK, you got Bulldog and uh you got Dynamite Kid,
you got fucking Nintheart. So much star power in this match,
and I just remember watching this as a kid on tape,
but think of like, holy shit, look at all these

(01:39:22):
fucking stars, all these like it was like probably ninety five,
so like by that point, HBK and Brad are like
huge single stars. I'm like, man, this is awesome. It's
like when they were you know, like incredible whatever. Man,
I just I just love the how wild this match was,
having this money guys in it, and this team is

(01:39:43):
just so stacked beyond belief.

Speaker 5 (01:39:46):
So many guys in wild.

Speaker 3 (01:39:48):
My number two I already told you that's the Warriors
Oldim Warriorhawk Animal and the Texas Tornado. I would like
more w C C W. I'd like to I'd like
to force you guys to watch some of the stuff
that I watched. I'd like to watch a w A
with you as well to see what you guys like
remember or you bj you've never seen it before, but Mike, if.

Speaker 2 (01:40:07):
You watch I've.

Speaker 4 (01:40:09):
Certainly during the network days, especially the network.

Speaker 3 (01:40:12):
Day, these are the I would bug you every day
with the most ran I'm so sorry looking back, how
annoying I must have been, being like yo, uh one
man gangs here? Like why why?

Speaker 2 (01:40:27):
Why?

Speaker 4 (01:40:28):
You've always been annoying? That was not high in the
level of annoying.

Speaker 5 (01:40:32):
Yeah, you were, because you were the best part.

Speaker 2 (01:40:34):
You were enjoying it.

Speaker 3 (01:40:35):
You're like, wow, that is fun to see that one
man gang showed up in fucking mid.

Speaker 2 (01:40:39):
South and appreciate that.

Speaker 5 (01:40:42):
Seriously, You're you, hey, I did it.

Speaker 3 (01:40:44):
I And that was the time when w W network
will choose fucking great. Like I watched every piece of
footage they had from mid South. Uh from what else
did they have? Mid Atlantic? We had w c c W,
We watched e c W. Watch every ECW's like nineteen
ninety nine. Oh my god, we did.

Speaker 5 (01:41:04):
I watched so much wrestling during that time.

Speaker 3 (01:41:06):
It was so good, so so good.

Speaker 4 (01:41:08):
I remember one of the first things I did when
I got the network was I watched all those like
Legends Round Table that were on yeah seven, it was
something different. It was like the opener work, Kevin Ashes,
like couldn't get downed, the House show, Oh.

Speaker 3 (01:41:21):
Yeah that guy.

Speaker 5 (01:41:22):
Oh yeah, yeah yeah, it's like a board.

Speaker 2 (01:41:23):
It was like the show was awesome, it was amazing panel.

Speaker 3 (01:41:29):
Yeah. Honestly, the network was great for stuff like that, dude,
some of those tables threes with like Sting and yeah,
who was it who did sting with? It was Leon White?

Speaker 5 (01:41:38):
What the fuck?

Speaker 3 (01:41:39):
Vader Vader? Yeah, my brain, my brain, my brain, dude.
I couldn't think of Vader, so I said his real name,
I might be broken and BJ watch your number one, my.

Speaker 2 (01:41:56):
Number one, Mike said it teams w W from two
thousand and one, and so my Number two was the
Alliance my number one team do WF. This was, like
Mike said, the invasion overall was not what we wanted
it to be. There were some good moments, but wasn't
we wanted it to be. But they did a great
job heading into this pay per view and especially with

(01:42:16):
the SmackDown before Paul Haymen and Vin sick Man were
the greatest promos of all time. You gotta be really
high for this, and to me, this is the best
Survivor Series elimination match.

Speaker 1 (01:42:26):
It's just so much fun.

Speaker 2 (01:42:27):
It's chaos. It's just like Mike said, the biggest stars
of this time. Like it was just so rare to
really see something like that, and it was just awesome,
just awesome, just awesome, awesome, dude.

Speaker 3 (01:42:44):
Mike.

Speaker 2 (01:42:46):
My number one.

Speaker 4 (01:42:47):
Some would argue it's the great team of all time.
I'm certainly going to.

Speaker 3 (01:42:49):
Argue with number one.

Speaker 4 (01:42:52):
Team d Act Shawn Michael's Triple A CM Punk and
the Hardy Boys. Holy shit, uh you can you HBK
Triple AH Punk. Maybe three of the top ten singles
wrestlers of all time can argue that the Hardy Boys
are the greatest tag team of all time. All these
guys on the arguing how lucky, how lucky to have

(01:43:14):
all these guys in the same era together. Wow, Wow,
HBK baby, he's on.

Speaker 2 (01:43:22):
Teams in both of my Top two and number three.

Speaker 4 (01:43:25):
Helped coach up those people on t MANX team Cool.

Speaker 3 (01:43:28):
This is That's one of the coolest stories I ever
heard of. All right, you're ready for mine? No, it's
one that neither of you have mentioned.

Speaker 5 (01:43:41):
It's one.

Speaker 3 (01:43:42):
It's not on either one here. It might be a
mi you definitely don't. But it's my favorite match from
Survivor series, Survivor series tag team type match.

Speaker 5 (01:43:53):
Whether this is Lenah match Andre.

Speaker 3 (01:43:55):
The Giant, Rick Rude Dino Bravo again, this is the
perfect and Harley race with Bobby Heenan and the deal
Breaker Frenchie Martin. You come on, dude, nineteen eighty eight
Victory for the for the for the Bad Guys by Like,

(01:44:17):
it's so perfect, Because what is this, Mike, This is
a collection of.

Speaker 2 (01:44:22):
Tames.

Speaker 3 (01:44:23):
No, it's a collection of Heenan guys. Heen Guy, it's
just like Don Kallas family.

Speaker 2 (01:44:29):
This is actually nothing like that anyway, It's a very.

Speaker 3 (01:44:32):
Lot like it. In nineteen eighty eight, it wins number
fucking one on my list.

Speaker 4 (01:44:36):
Dude, I got a few honorable mentions that I could
say that weren't said by anybody. The teamsters Sean Michaels,
Diesel Owen Hart, Jim Knightheart and Jeff Sharrett Fro nineteen
ninety four.

Speaker 5 (01:44:48):
It shows how bad that that that era really was,
and it didn't make your list.

Speaker 4 (01:44:52):
Had all those guys, that's a good team.

Speaker 3 (01:44:54):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (01:44:54):
Nineteen eighty seven, I believe the first ever Survivor Series
match Bruce Beefcake, Jake Roberts, Jim Duggan, Randy Savage, Ricky Steamboat.

Speaker 3 (01:45:03):
Yeah, I almost had that team, but I hate brutus
Beefcake that much. Definitely overcame, seriously, Steamboat and Savage on
the same fucking team, and.

Speaker 4 (01:45:14):
Jake the Snake, and then even dug In, I'd like, yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:45:17):
Well listen, dug it.

Speaker 3 (01:45:18):
I look at I look at Hacksaw, Jim dug and
Ultimate Warrior in the same exact vein Novelty acts, and
as a kid, I fucking popped for him. It is
what it is.

Speaker 5 (01:45:25):
I'm okay with it.

Speaker 4 (01:45:27):
And then my last honor will mention that wasn't said
by anybody of two thousand and five Team Snapdown, Batista, Lashley, JBL,
Randy Orton, Ray Mysteria, Pretty Stack, Time of Snack.

Speaker 3 (01:45:38):
Did not make the list, all right, I would say this.
I mean this in the bottom of my heart. Your
list sucked. Did you have the Royal Family or clowns
r us on your fucking honorable mentions? Mike Power, dude,
can you tell me at least it was when I watched.

Speaker 4 (01:45:56):
Those as a kid on the AH as I was
popping for that ship.

Speaker 3 (01:45:59):
Damn right, dude, be honest, That's what I'm saying now
as I watch as an adult. It's the novelty of
being like, I know what's gonna happen here, and tell
me Sleazy isn't the true workhourse of that match, dude?

Speaker 4 (01:46:11):
And I thought Queazy.

Speaker 3 (01:46:13):
Squeezy is good. He's putting that ship in BJ is like,
what are they talking about? Let me google this

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