Episode 766: WWE Survivor Series Preview, Picks & Predictions; AEW Full Gear Review, Grades

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 3 (01:06):
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Speaker 1 (01:15):
Oh yeah, I have an update to something off air.

Speaker 3 (01:21):
Okay, please, we just started the show. I'm your host
of Donald Wood, Mike Herey, Brandy Galvin. Please. I asked
if Sonny, the former Ladies wrestler, was out of jail,
because I saw her saying that Paul Hayman owed her
money or whatever.

Speaker 1 (01:34):
Wikipedia very Trusted Tours says her tentative release date is
December twenty thirty nine.

Speaker 3 (01:42):
Twenty thirty nine.

Speaker 1 (01:43):
Yeah, I'm just gonna she's not out.

Speaker 3 (01:45):
Does it say anything about conjugals on there? So fourteen
years she's got, dude, she probably needs a lot of
rations in there.

Speaker 1 (01:57):
My assumption is what you saw was just then like
we are just shooting him. Very old thing because I've
seen Ring Sign News especially doing that a lot. It's
very annoying when.

Speaker 4 (02:05):
He got nothing else to say.

Speaker 3 (02:07):
Just old ship again, play our interviews again. We used
to do that. Ship to do that. We have Brett
Hart from two years ago.

Speaker 4 (02:16):
To the dirt sheets, and they'll put her out there.

Speaker 1 (02:18):
They really I'm still relevant, probably just bashing Goldberg.

Speaker 3 (02:22):
Yeah, dude, he just bashes everything now. Man. He's He's
my favorite dude. He's like, yay, you like that guy.
He's fucking working, shitty, fucking blow dude. He fucking owns everybody. Dude.
I love him. I love bitter. Brett Hart is the best.
He's like, you see my black wife. I don't give

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a single fuck. I love it, dude, he does, he
says Brandy Gavin. I always think of the salt and
pepper meme. Give picture whatever it is that touching him,
and he's like, oh, ship, dude, Brandy Gavin. We have
things to talking about.

Speaker 1 (02:59):
Yeah, we're gonna talk WW and ae W, reviewful gear.
We're going to preview Survivor series, Wallgames. We have Dirtsey
Busters and Mike Carbon. That's the lies and rumors going on.
Pro Wrestling. Tell us about this is fucking stupid. We
have w Fantasy Standings update, the final one before Survivor series.
Don you're excited? Uh here what your scores?

Speaker 3 (03:22):
I probably won't hear it.

Speaker 1 (03:23):
Okay, we have fan emails and so much more.

Speaker 3 (03:26):
I don't care. I don't care one little bit, dude.
I'm proud of myself for fucking trying really hard. Mike,
that's stupid.

Speaker 4 (03:33):
Uh you did not try hard. I mean maybe you did,
and if so, that's pathetic as but as I never
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Speaker 3 (03:50):
Cut your deck.

Speaker 4 (03:51):
Also also George Crew's making claims unsubstantially claims he's working
on getting another shirt design up for us.

Speaker 3 (04:01):
I literally just paid Daniel Hayden to do design. So again,
I'll throw this out there. D Hayden Design h A
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best graphic designers I've ever met in my life, and
he just happens to fucking like us, which is a
great deal. So if you need something designed for anything
like I needed. I was making T shirts up for

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our cabin because it's thirtieth advers of our cabin and
everybody wants a nice little T shirts. We're gonna make
up nice school T shirts. He did an incredible job.

Speaker 4 (04:30):
The man what he's one of the only people that has.

Speaker 3 (04:36):
Him. Yeah, well, it's well. He made it in this
like three D like I'll show you a picture of it.
He made it look incredible.

Speaker 4 (04:45):
I don't know how he goes off a mountain.

Speaker 3 (04:47):
Well, I fell off the deck plenty of the times, drunkenly,
I thought there's just all I always think there's this
an extra foot there. It's never once been there. Anything else, Mike,
did you.

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Speaker 3 (05:11):
Now we can we can start j we can start
cutting that because that's I'm dead. I quit.

Speaker 4 (05:16):
I'm close to Triple R Gaming. Donny Beg fans the show.
They might be playing different games like now.

Speaker 3 (05:21):
Or listen, we're still playing together. I'm still playing sh Yeah,
we're posting early access and Patre not talking. It's not true.

Speaker 4 (05:30):
None of that's you're just enjoyed a session exists email.

Speaker 3 (05:34):
I have thought about that before I killed it. That's
how I say to that interested you should have thought
about that before you've let it die.

Speaker 1 (05:42):
I'm established. Nineteen ninety six is in the flex that
you think it is?

Speaker 3 (05:46):
Why that's the mid nineties. That's a long time ago, really, man,
you know it is.

Speaker 1 (05:52):
It was like eighteen eight, eighteen ninety six.

Speaker 3 (05:54):
I'd be okay, yo, bro, you are a fucking C
word right now. You are?

Speaker 1 (05:59):
Yeah, why would anyone want to wear this shirt?

Speaker 3 (06:02):
I have orders for upwards of seven different shirts, family numbers,
seven family numbers of friends. The people love the gutter.

Speaker 4 (06:10):
It's all black and what you could color it.

Speaker 3 (06:11):
We don't say that anymore. We gotta move on.

Speaker 5 (06:14):
What We're gonna put this on an order from the
w they're talking about to have a discussion about the
one who's bought selling the fish.

Speaker 6 (06:22):
Just just makes sense in the art. Tell me who
watched on the march. He takes the one cutting and
the pure and the rough blew up like you snacked
down on the floor on the collision course with the
number one.

Speaker 3 (06:35):
Back to the ring for the latest report, Ring Rush, Yeah,
it's time to talk about aw Man. Wow full gear
did it change my life?

Speaker 4 (06:46):
Wow?

Speaker 3 (06:47):
Min Now. Honestly, Mike, three times I had non contact
orgasms watching this, Dude. It's crazy, Dude. Non contact It's
like a cl injury when you bag and you just
see it like nothing happens. Tore up. I had a
non contact ejaculation three times watching the show. It wasn't

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even my Jean's roving, dude, it was just bam finishes.
I had false but I had full finishes, not false
finishes premature finishes. Dude. That is It's an unfortunate fact.
Before we talk about w w E and the dumb
ship they're doing over there, I see it seems like
a I already took over creative because it's doodoo butter,

(07:33):
did you read that reported? That'side you've been discussing. Okay,
I was gonna say, because, like.

Speaker 4 (07:38):
I really addressed, I really do believe.

Speaker 3 (07:41):
It's happening, and I want very chat GPT in the
fucking script every week and it sucks. Due. Yes, I
think they are.

Speaker 4 (07:48):
What do mounts bullshit which we discussed.

Speaker 3 (07:52):
Which is educated guesses.

Speaker 4 (07:54):
No, not even educated. I don't know, un educated guessing.

Speaker 3 (07:58):
R I P section here. I got one for you,
and only one this week. Ralph Mosca and old Ralph. Well,
we're not making fun of the dead, so let's not
do that. Ralph moskra don't say he died. How are
they going to make another spin off?

Speaker 4 (08:16):
True?

Speaker 3 (08:17):
Yeah, seriously, Ralph Mosca. I'm looking it up again. Just
make sure he's a doctor. He's a doctor from Langhorn Health.
That's not the Ralph Mosca. I'm looking for. Wrestler. There
he is. He's an enhancement wrestler from WWE.

Speaker 4 (08:34):
Was he rid of the Andelo Mosca born in.

Speaker 3 (08:36):
Nineteen seventy I don't think so, I look it up.
I don't fucking know. He won the American Commat Wrestling
Golden Glory Tournament in twenty twenty one or something like that.

Speaker 4 (08:48):
So you're missing you're missing a depth there, buddy.

Speaker 3 (08:51):
Who's that?

Speaker 4 (08:52):
Stop Condell.

Speaker 3 (08:55):
The announcer, Yes, the announcer. Okay, I can't even think it.
I was I I was told before aar. I was
trying to make it authentic here and I can't even
do it. I am legit sad. I'm like weirdly sad
about this. I'm looking, I've been reading. I've been ignoring
you the whole intro and just reading. Shit. Dude. He
started broadcasting in the late nineteen fifties. Mike, nineteen fifties.

(09:18):
It was like a different world back then, he said,
colored like he was you.

Speaker 4 (09:24):
Yeah, I did.

Speaker 3 (09:26):
What the fun? I know that he won? How to
come on, dude, it's suck. And he was in the South.
I was in Wilmington, North Carolina in the nineteen fifties.
Come on, even then, there's that was that was technically
that is progressive for the fifties. The alternative was not
as nice. Mid Atlantic Wrestling nineteen seventy three. Holy shit, dude,

(09:51):
that's that's ninety five years old. Yep.

Speaker 4 (09:56):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (09:57):
So when I went when Lucy was when a wife
is pregnant with losey. I decided to go through the
ww B network when it was good and you could
just decide one day to be like, I'm gonna watch
every minute Atlanta Championship Wrestling fucking show that they have
on here. And it happened to be like a span
of like nine years of shows. He is. He is
truly one of the best announcers that I got to hear.

(10:19):
There was a lot of really bad ones, you know
what I mean, Who's the dude from the minutetlant not
mid Atlantic, mid South, the racist guy Watts, Jim Watts,
Bill Watts, he sucked. Bill Watson one of the worst
announced I've ever heard my life. Dude, not like uh,
Gorilla Monsoon bad but you know, still pretty bad moth.

(10:43):
But Bob Kottle, I really do mean this. Bob Coddle
really was the voice of that time and some of
that wrestling was incredible. Roddy Piper, the Brisco Brothers, so
many really cool memories I have of watching all that
stuff and him being like, because he also did the
mean Gene thing, he was the one to doing interviews
and stuff like that, so he was in the ship
of all those really cool moments.

Speaker 4 (11:04):
He did literally everything. Yeah, that's it's I think that
I think that Gordon solely gets a lot of like
the love like he came I think a little bit
after maybe Condall, but I think that he was kind
of more like the utility guy, Like he wasn't only
doing like announcing the matches. He like you said, he

(11:26):
was doing the interviews. He was doing a little bit
of everything. Yeah, and he lasted a long time.

Speaker 3 (11:31):
Shit, Yeah, I think you're right. I think that. I
think he's super underrated when you go back and watch
the stuff, like he really was that especially NWA. He
got to call a lot of the w CCW stuff
because the NWA would bring him in to do the calls.
Like said, Gordon Solely and him work together a ton
as well, and he he did color as well as

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play by play. So again, super versatile, honestly. Weirdly enough,
he's a super important character and in wrestling history and
very forgotten and it's kind.

Speaker 4 (12:02):
Of nobody only talks about.

Speaker 3 (12:04):
It's kind of sad, he was. He's like the foundation
of the Southern wrestling in this country for literally fifty years.
So very sad, very very sad. So we will not
forget you, Bob Cattle. We will always remember. We'll always
burn this candle for you. It's a blunt but and
when it runs out, it will not burn it along.
But he also did Smoking Mountain Wrestling, which is really

(12:25):
great too.

Speaker 4 (12:26):
Yeah, yes, that was.

Speaker 3 (12:28):
Really fun as well. Nobody gives them credit for that.
But it's fine. It's like that. It was very fun. Okay,
we want to talk about a w right. Obviously we
start with aw the most full gear. That's what we're doing,
Mike on a scale of one ten rod no, no,
real quick, real quick, really quick. We're just gonna do
full gear, real quick, Mike, on a scale of one

(12:48):
to ten, ten being the most, one being the least.
How moved were you watching full gear? Honestly? Be honest,
it didn't move at all. I got of God tell you,
I think you're lying. Real quick. I'm just gonna I'm
not going to go through the whole thing because I
can't read it anyway. BJ made is the smallest ever
even when I click on it.

Speaker 4 (13:07):
Maybe it's to him in a thousand matters on that card,
it's hey, take away the pre show and it's barely
a lot.

Speaker 1 (13:15):
A lot show bled into the fucking main show again.

Speaker 3 (13:20):
So yeah, but that's how you get him. That's how
you get and a half hour show for no reason,
that's how you get him excited. Park defeating Darby Allen,
Oh match, Park is very stout right. This is this
guy the stat.

Speaker 4 (13:35):
Why did he do that with his look.

Speaker 3 (13:40):
I don't know, it's his call. Yeah, he doesn't want
to enjoy his long hair. He wants to look like
he's like, don't check out my muscular legs. Those up
to He doesn't want.

Speaker 1 (13:52):
To give a heel. In two thousand and two and
he shaved his beard.

Speaker 4 (13:58):
Yeah, look a look. And he had those weird bikers
for a little while, biker shorts because he was hurt. Right,
But I didn't like those either.

Speaker 1 (14:06):
I didn't like those either.

Speaker 3 (14:08):
Unbelievable how we got here? Uh, timeless Loves win.

Speaker 4 (14:13):
This match should not have been on the show.

Speaker 1 (14:15):
I can't believe this was actually a fucking match. It
was such a weird going to determine a stipulation for
the semi final for only one of the matches, Listen,
just been for the championship. What the fuck are we doing?

Speaker 3 (14:28):
Listen.

Speaker 1 (14:29):
I was floored by this.

Speaker 3 (14:31):
I would argue that this was not a decision made wisely.
I initially, I will tell you the truth, watching this
and barely watching as I do when I'm working, I
believed this was for the titles. It wasn't. Okay, I
don't believe it wasn't. Until the very end of the match.

(14:55):
When I saw no titles being handed to Tony Storm
that I turned volume up more to be like, the's
going on here?

Speaker 1 (15:02):
What did they win?

Speaker 3 (15:04):
Okay? I was very curious at that point.

Speaker 4 (15:06):
You know, my sipulation would be if I won this match,
the stipulation would be, if your team name is the
Titles Love Bombs, you advance to the fine.

Speaker 3 (15:13):
Oh yeah, I would definitely be like if your name
if you say she bangs Bank first, win your bang.
We just won the titles. Baby stimulates your dumbest shit.

Speaker 4 (15:23):
I literally think this is just Tony like giving in
to like, oh, I'm just gonna have a second woman's
match on the show so people will yell at me
the semifinals on this show.

Speaker 3 (15:32):
Then, yeah, that would have been better.

Speaker 4 (15:34):
You could have done the two semi finals in this amount.

Speaker 3 (15:36):
Of time, right, Okay, I'm gonna say something here and
has nothing to do with anyone in particular, but there
comes a time when you start to do so much
cocaine that the cocaine stops having the normal effects on
you and you start to just turn like manic almost
right right right, just this ahead up, FTR Man. They

(15:58):
took Brotido's tag ting titles. That is dazardly bastards all just.

Speaker 4 (16:01):
So they can drop him to fucking copeing Christian.

Speaker 3 (16:04):
That is exactly what's happening. That does not make this
last of a good match. This was a great match.
Fuck you.

Speaker 1 (16:09):
I thought copa Christian were coming out at the end.

Speaker 4 (16:11):
Yeah, I hoped. I hoped that they would.

Speaker 3 (16:13):
No, we're saving that ship. We're saving By the way,
I watched.

Speaker 4 (16:17):
It over the course of the next two days.

Speaker 1 (16:19):
Because it's so I watched it.

Speaker 3 (16:21):
How nice though, Mike I was.

Speaker 4 (16:23):
I mean, it's better than watching sitting there for five hours.

Speaker 3 (16:25):
Mike. I can't. I could never, I could never anymore.

Speaker 4 (16:28):
Do But the reason I do it I was busy,
so I couldn't. But the reason I do it usually
is because I want to get it over with.

Speaker 3 (16:37):
That's fair, that's fair, But I mean I feel like
I could. I could get it over with on Monday
in two and a half hours if I should strategize correct.
I mean, but this is also the same guy which
my friend was like, let's get Flyers tickets, and he's like,
we're gonna get them at this date. I was like,
what times the games are? He's like seven thirty. I
was like, oh no, no, that's too late. He's like
seven thirty. I said, is there a one o'clock Sunday

(17:01):
game we could go to? And he's like, we play
in the Avalanche. I was like, see you December seventh.
Pl let's go.

Speaker 1 (17:07):
There you go.

Speaker 3 (17:08):
I'm growing up, I cut my hair and I've lost
my mind.

Speaker 1 (17:11):
Here you go. This was in Newark, New Jersey, and which.

Speaker 3 (17:18):
Is basically shitty New York.

Speaker 1 (17:20):
Yes, oh easily. But this show went until twelve thirty. Yes,
in fucking Newark, New Jersey. I can't stress to you
how fucking awful that is really dangerous?

Speaker 3 (17:32):
Is this? This is? Was this the Prudential Center?

Speaker 4 (17:34):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (17:34):
Okay, so that's where I saw the Misfits. I drove
Philly to this place and the show led out probably
like eleven fifteen, is right. And you know, I parked
in a parking lot garage, so it wasn't I didn't
get raped or anything, surprisingly, but I could see how
the surrounding area not ideal for that. But I mean,
I'm I'm as Tony con I'm you. You paid money

(17:56):
to see a show and he gave you a show.

Speaker 1 (17:58):
Okay, Starry show at fucking seven.

Speaker 3 (18:01):
He did. He just started with four pre show matches.

Speaker 1 (18:04):
Start the pre show. It's the main show.

Speaker 3 (18:06):
Okay, Well, like I said, if it was up to me,
I would start to show at three o'clock. Run that
pitch to midnight. Baby, you don't just let him have
what they want, come and go. It's a buffet.

Speaker 1 (18:19):
Ricochet.

Speaker 3 (18:20):
You do not give Ricochet the credit he deserves, dude,
and he is now your inaugural aw National.

Speaker 4 (18:25):
Champion, so you can give gauntlets. Suck man.

Speaker 3 (18:28):
I like it. I like the dude.

Speaker 4 (18:31):
Why they're obsessed with this matchup all it does? Oh
I I do know why. It's because they can just
throw everybody on the fucking company.

Speaker 3 (18:39):
It's the world rule.

Speaker 4 (18:41):
But it's it's a waste of time every time. It's
twenty two fucking minutes for this.

Speaker 3 (18:45):
Yeah, but Ricochet is not national championship. We consolidate those
other chimp exactly what we need. Well, no, no, we
consolidate those.

Speaker 1 (18:55):
Other one of the a national championship.

Speaker 3 (18:57):
We consolidated the other ones so we can make this one.

Speaker 1 (19:00):
No, why did we do that? We should have been
in consoliding la.

Speaker 3 (19:04):
La la la. I'm not listening. We're listening.

Speaker 4 (19:07):
What's the point of this title?

Speaker 1 (19:08):
Can anybody tell me?

Speaker 3 (19:09):
Yeah? He will defend it anywhere in the United States
at any point. That's a national title. Kyler Riley beat
John Moxley two times in a row.

Speaker 1 (19:20):
Now tapped him out the toughest guy in the business,
John Mossley tapping on NonStop to everybody, what are we doing?

Speaker 3 (19:27):
He got, well, he's got he's forty one. Now it's
differently soon.

Speaker 1 (19:30):
Right, absolutely, Everyone looking at mox Of like, what the
fuck is wrong with you? Get the fuck out of here.
You're ruining that credibility.

Speaker 3 (19:37):
Par's gonna kill him.

Speaker 1 (19:39):
I think it should be Cesarrow.

Speaker 3 (19:40):
Well, I think, well, we just had Poc beat Darby,
Allen Park's kill John Moxley.

Speaker 1 (19:45):
I know I'm saying because pack was out, he is
the more of announce I agree with that. I'm saying
I want to be Cesarrow.

Speaker 3 (19:52):
I want him he beat his ass too, Bud. We
can let him both beat his ass. I'll take both.

Speaker 5 (19:57):
Plastic bag over his face, kick out Daniel Garci and
Wheeler you no, no, no, you still need want to and
crow Wheeler you know, and Daniel Garcia have like destroyed
any aura of the death Riders.

Speaker 3 (20:10):
That's not true. The way they the way he danced,
I do.

Speaker 4 (20:14):
I do not know whysed with these guys, other than
it might be a fetish of some.

Speaker 1 (20:19):
Kind o him.

Speaker 3 (20:21):
That's the only thing I can think of small men.
M Okay, what's that word? No, No, you know the word.

Speaker 1 (20:30):
That's not the word.

Speaker 3 (20:31):
Want you say that Mark brisk will be Kyle Fletcher. Yeah,
probably should happened the last time they thought. But it's
fine here now.

Speaker 1 (20:45):
I don't know why we had to.

Speaker 3 (20:46):
Let's not tell by the way, all these criticisms I have,
they're fine. Doesn't make it a bad show, but a
great show so far.

Speaker 1 (20:53):
Josh and the.

Speaker 3 (20:54):
Young Bucks finally win that million dollars. Maybe they are
back on top. Dude, I'm sorry to see JP uh
take that l though, you know what I mean? Need
my man back on top?

Speaker 4 (21:10):
I can't.

Speaker 3 (21:13):
Yeah, I know, but they say won the match, but they.

Speaker 4 (21:16):
Don't have a million dollars.

Speaker 3 (21:17):
Yeah, but I mean, it's why pay boy back on top?
That price skipped. What happened?

Speaker 1 (21:23):
They reunited?

Speaker 4 (21:25):
They reunited with Kenny back at the Elite's back, save
him from getting beat up by the thirty seven members
of the don Kallis family.

Speaker 3 (21:32):
Well, listen, Don Collis family. He did the offers health benefit.
That's one of the Tony offers.

Speaker 4 (21:37):
Oh uh so yeah, the Elites back together for the
thirtieth time.

Speaker 3 (21:43):
Yeah, well guess what we put. That's like, that's their
bloodline except better better. Yeah, the elite have been around
way longer. It's bullet club. Bullet Club is far superior
than fucking the bloodline. Ever, was that dude, very Christa

(22:05):
defeated Mercedes.

Speaker 4 (22:11):
You really wonder, though, I really really wonder what you're
playing with mercedeses because when we last discussed this a
couple of weeks ago, we were like, we were like,
you know what would probably make the most sense here
is Mercedes wins and then they do a rematch where
all Mercedes titles are on the line and Chris Statlander
wins that, and then she can just kind of release

(22:33):
all the other titles, because again, Mercedes isn't going to
fucking Alaska to drop her you know, Juno Pro Wrestling
Championship to somebody. I don't know I'm making up one, but.

Speaker 3 (22:47):
I honestly would not even doubt. I've lost track of
how many she has and she's each of.

Speaker 1 (22:52):
These indies and drop the title.

Speaker 4 (22:53):
So the only story that makes companies all of them
and then vacates them all, which it How are you
gonna do that now?

Speaker 3 (23:02):
Oh, well, you just do it against somebody. She loses
him one by one.

Speaker 4 (23:07):
With that said, I'm glad that Chris Sailor is being
built up and getting big wins because we've said for
a long time she should be putting that they were
always reluctant to do it for whatever reason.

Speaker 3 (23:16):
So that's.

Speaker 1 (23:19):
Right.

Speaker 3 (23:20):
It's good to be right sometimes. And Samoa job hangman
Adam Page. Because Tony Kahan admits he fucking didn't.

Speaker 1 (23:27):
Know what he was doing, Well, we called this.

Speaker 3 (23:35):
I didn't. I disagree with this.

Speaker 4 (23:36):
I don't think I said some movie.

Speaker 3 (23:39):
Yeah, so uh no, I didn't see this coming, and
I don't like it. I don't like that this is
I don't like that Tony Khan literally was like, I
didn't have a plan.

Speaker 1 (23:51):
What do we think?

Speaker 3 (23:51):
It's what do we him? Letting Samoa Joe win here,
and it shows that he meant was. I don't Since
Adam Page won the title and all the things that
happened since then give to me the indication that he
didn't plan for this, or didn't have a good plan
coming out of this, or didn't understand what he was
gonna do without him Paige, he did themand no discern

(24:13):
no service.

Speaker 1 (24:17):
The championship.

Speaker 3 (24:18):
I get it, but that doesn't it's a dropping the championship.
It was him admitting defeat. And it sucks because I
like at him page.

Speaker 4 (24:29):
Is it him page because he's had two failed tunnel reigns,
or is it Tony Khan because both the Tuttle reins
were booked very poorly.

Speaker 3 (24:36):
I think it's I think it's to be honest, and
you know me, I'm a defender.

Speaker 4 (24:42):
The crowd was so hot for Hangman to win the title,
and then he wins it and then nobody.

Speaker 3 (24:47):
Cares because there's no following. He's not holding me.

Speaker 4 (24:50):
But at the same time, he's doing like just random
like one off matches and not building actual rivalries coming
out of it. So he's being put in a position
to fail too. So it's like, what's the real.

Speaker 1 (25:00):
Issues the same match, he does the same promo.

Speaker 3 (25:03):
But hold on, he might just said it. He did.
All that stuff is true. You could say all that
stuff is true. I disagree with him, but the build
up to him winning the championship, he was one of
the hottest come out of these in the business.

Speaker 1 (25:14):
I'm the one that picked them. The winn't pick them.

Speaker 3 (25:16):
I don't give a shit if you picked him when
I'm saying what's happening.

Speaker 1 (25:20):
But when he won the championship, he had a terrible ring.

Speaker 3 (25:24):
I think again, you didn't. I think when when when
the weeke after he won the weekend the week after
he won the championship, we came on here and we said,
it's all about what happens now. Good. You did it.
It failed last time because you didn't follow it up
with anything. He did it again. He didn't follow with ship.
The promo that fucking Page cuts the night after is

(25:45):
like in introspective and there's a great promo and I'm like, cool,
who are they gonna set up next? And the stuff
with Samojo wal Good, there was no depth to it.
No one got behind it. They liked Simojoe. You didn't
give him someone we could hate. You didn't give it. Really,
I love I like Adam Page quite a bit, and
I like Tony Gun's booking for the most part. But

(26:06):
the way that he has done the Bill's got cooks.
They got Brandon cooked. No, it's from the but it's
a good pickup though it's fucking they need every five
years ago. Yes, like I said, just make a possessions
whatever AnyWho, Tony Khan, I I in this moment, I

(26:30):
think Tony Kahan is more to blame than Adam Page.
Adam Paige was doing his part. You could say it's whatever,
but those same matches and those same whatever BJ it
got people moving before, but there ain't nothing for it
to move for now. They cared about Sweerve because there's
something to care about. I care about the pages, I understand,

(26:51):
but they cared about it. I don't care if because there.

Speaker 4 (26:55):
Was a story they don't care anymore.

Speaker 3 (26:57):
I mean, that's that's also modern day. But here's the thing.
You have to give him adversity, true adversity. Where was
the true adversity? There was none none. So disappointing, disappointing
end of the run. But again, I'll love it when
he's chasing again. I'll love it when they're like, he
fucked up two times and now he's never get.

Speaker 4 (27:18):
He can't be chasing again. He's done, no who chasing?

Speaker 3 (27:22):
He can he doesn't have to get it, but he
can chase it.

Speaker 4 (27:24):
Okay, Well back on him again.

Speaker 3 (27:29):
Well here's maybe you don't do for a while. But
here's the thing, Like he is a very important part
of this fucking division. When you have a guy like
m j F, he should fight the ship. Remember who
AJJ I'm gonna say a name. Remember when Nighto and Okada.
Nighto fought a Kada one hundred fucking times and he
never fucking beat him. He never beat him, right, but

(27:50):
Nighto became this like subculture phenomena in the company where
he his match was as big as Okada's match. And
like I said, you could do stuff like that with
guys as well. It's just about story and meaning, and
I have to care about it. Dude.

Speaker 1 (28:08):
Now that Swerve is back and Hook, screw the over Page.
You're gonna get Hook against Page. Try to elevate Hook
against someone like Page who is established, who can go.
All right, we're gonna have a twenty five minute matter
than Swerve can go against Samoa Joe as and you
can even do it. Hey to beat me next pay
per view, no championship on the line, We're doing a
taxi match. Hangman Swerve against Samoa Jew and Hook. All right,

(28:32):
let's actually propel this storyline forward. We don't need a
championship match right now. This is more personal than that.
We don't need the championship on the line right now.

Speaker 4 (28:41):
It's gotta but here's the thing. It's gotta be Swerve
beating Samooth with Jew for the title absolutely near future.
So you're just going back to what you've already done before.
They've done that for I think everyone wants.

Speaker 3 (28:53):
I thought Darby Allen would be here eight months.

Speaker 1 (28:56):
I was only you thought.

Speaker 4 (28:58):
Then does MJF quote un cash in on on when
he's back, because he's still got that.

Speaker 3 (29:04):
I mean, that's that's a nice heel face.

Speaker 1 (29:08):
You have to just announce it. Announce championship.

Speaker 3 (29:11):
Well, hold on, don't mock that. We loved it went
down different. It's not different, it's exactly the same. All right,
real quick match moment overall grade Mike.

Speaker 4 (29:24):
Uh favorite match was Chris Statlander against Mercedes for sure.

Speaker 3 (29:30):
Remember the gift of you freaking out when Mercedes came
in you just like the security almost tackled you down.

Speaker 4 (29:37):
No I don't think that happened.

Speaker 3 (29:41):
Well, no, it happened. I'm not. There's no thinking happened
or not it happened. You just don't know if it
was you who happened to I was a cop, i'd
be like, that's suspicious. It was probably you.

Speaker 4 (29:58):
Favorite moment was probably in Big Justice this hit the
Diamond Cutter on.

Speaker 1 (30:01):
The Free show.

Speaker 3 (30:02):
Shoo.

Speaker 4 (30:03):
He doesn't remember where they were when Big Justices hit
the Diamond Cutter.

Speaker 3 (30:06):
Dude, if I could get just two booms, that's all
I just two booms. Somebody made me think the way
he said it, it sounded like a junkie asking for
like crack. He's just like, can you give me a boom? Man?

Speaker 1 (30:21):
This is a little bit of yeah, young guy, any
more than booms.

Speaker 3 (30:25):
And I'm almost I'm almost clean of it. I'm almost clean.
But no more booms at this one. I did for.

Speaker 4 (30:30):
Real, fear mom. I guess some of the jew winning
because I really I wasn't feeling the hangman puddle ring.

Speaker 1 (30:37):
But I hate the way he did it.

Speaker 4 (30:39):
Fucking hook, Like stop trying to make hook a thing.

Speaker 3 (30:41):
Hook Hook is awesome, dude, Okay.

Speaker 4 (30:44):
And it wasn't even a good swerve either, because like
hook was like gone, and then he came back and like,
I don't think I was ever even established that he
was out of the ops anyways, So like, why are
people shocked that he was still part of the ops.
So I don't know. I think the whole the whole
thing wasn't that well done it all and that was
cool too, But then he's doing fucking power bombs to

(31:05):
a bunch of guys. That means he was doing like
submission moves and just.

Speaker 1 (31:09):
Fucking beat somebody up, kick him in the face, punch
him in the mouth, and be done with these.

Speaker 3 (31:14):
They're showing you that he's a face now for sure.

Speaker 1 (31:17):
No I wanted him to come he looked so bad
ass coming out. I'm like, Holly, this is a stone
cold fucking more right now, and he's doing sup plexes
and I'm gonna come on.

Speaker 3 (31:24):
Because he's gotta show the face moves. He's got to
show you a good guy guys.

Speaker 1 (31:28):
He doesn't punch people.

Speaker 4 (31:30):
It has a worst theme song now for no reason,
which is kind of weird.

Speaker 3 (31:33):
Then he he he's in control of the music. This
proves again why Vince McMahon just being in charge of
everything just you know, some of it may be bad,
but some of it will be good.

Speaker 4 (31:42):
I give the show like a six out of ten.
It was mid, it was very it was not newsworthy
at all until Samojo won, and then I'm not even
you know, I like Somemojo, but I'm not sure that's
like this incredible direction for your company at this point.

Speaker 3 (31:57):
But very very stupid, dude, DJ, that's you, Jordan.

Speaker 1 (32:03):
My favorite match was Packers Darby Allen. Actually I enjoyed
that favorite moment easily swerved coming back, even though I
gotta be honest, I'm a little over Prince Nana fucking
dancing and ship.

Speaker 4 (32:17):
I thought that sucked from day one, and people like
glazed it.

Speaker 3 (32:22):
Well, it's one of those six seven type things. It's
cool for the moment.

Speaker 4 (32:27):
It's like when Alex Abrahontes was ruining the Luchor Bellers
for years.

Speaker 1 (32:31):
Yeah, like dancing NonStop. I swear it's like a fucking
badass coming back, Like this was such an awesome over
serve and I'm like, this looks so corny now, Like
it's just I don't like that part.

Speaker 3 (32:43):
But everything you have to understand.

Speaker 1 (32:47):
I agree, Like that's a great point, Donnie, that moment
you didn't need Prince Nanna coming out to be the
one standing there in the fucking dark like.

Speaker 3 (32:55):
There still trying to capitalize on the the what is it,
swerve the left, sward right?

Speaker 1 (33:00):
I get it, but you didn't hear it for that moment.
Couldn't have it on dynamite like he just looked swear
it was one of our favorites and loveing since glued
to underground. So it's awesome seeing him back. I just
thought have been so much more badass if he was
by himself coming out and again not doing wrestlers. When
he was standing there and everyone surrounding him, I was like,
on the edge of my seat, I can't wait to
see you punch someone in the fucking mouth. Y're super kick,

(33:22):
And he did it and then two seconds later doing wrestling,
So I'm like, come on, like this is like it's
like exactly what you expect from a w like you
have such a great fucking moment and then you have
to do something stupid.

Speaker 4 (33:33):
Don't cold came in and it would whip everybody's ass exactly.

Speaker 1 (33:38):
Stone Call's not sitting there trying to do a fucking
power bomb like lifting.

Speaker 3 (33:41):
This guy up on couldn't handle it. But if he
could have he would have remembered he remember.

Speaker 1 (33:46):
That wucking match?

Speaker 3 (33:49):
Alright, did you give you grade six? It's very stupid.
My match the night was Kyler Riley and John Moxley.
I love their Mma Stott infusion to their stuff. I
love the realism that comes with Kyler Riley. We've always
loved Kyler Riley. So that's my match to night. My
moment of the night is the reuniting with the elite.

(34:11):
Incredible moment. Oh my god, just.

Speaker 4 (34:15):
The woman that you just found out happened five minutes ago.

Speaker 3 (34:18):
I saw it. I just didn't register it. Now it
makes sense, makes sense, It makes it now. It does
make sense, actually weirdly enough, and now it does. And
if I had to give it a grain, I'll say
this Boom and Doom, super underrated. Great to see Bang
Bang Gang Bag you love Juice Robinson and really underrated.
Part of this Eddie Kingston come back, all those surgeries,

(34:40):
all that time off to be on the pre show.
Just glad to see it's a one minute match. Uh there.
But yeah, like I gotta tell you, I gotta tell
I'm gonna give it a legitimate like eight out of
ten because I was very I was audibly frustrated for
the first time in a while with an aw show
because they made me think Tony Storm won a championship

(35:01):
and she didn't. I was I was shoot pissed off
for a second, and I was like, what the fuck
is going on here?

Speaker 1 (35:07):
Like I wish she won? I gotta I gotta beat.

Speaker 3 (35:09):
Go with George. I got you. I stopped work and
stopped what was happening around me to find the fuck out.
Why why did they win a match that was for nothing?
It's crazy? It was crazy. Sure, I'd love to hear.

Speaker 4 (35:29):
So if Tony and Nina win the tag ting titles,
I got an action doll from him.

Speaker 3 (35:35):
And this was a human size action doll or like
you're kind of normal.

Speaker 4 (35:40):
H if George, George gets an action doll for me.
If kJ wins the championship, they got bounced in the
first round.

Speaker 3 (35:49):
He was crying all night. What what is wrong with him?
The fuck is George? This is just like the fuck
is wrong with you? Yeah, like I get it, like
I get it. You like her a lot. I remember
your little letter that you wrote her and stuff, and
it's never gonna happen. But the truth is val the
fuck you talk about with this kind of bet. He

(36:10):
just wants to send you a doll. That's what it is.
I think that's what he finds a way to send
you a doll, and I appreciate it. Okay.

Speaker 1 (36:16):
I was watching this and I literally texted Mike and George.
I was like, what is this fucking sipulation? Why are
we doing this? It makes no sense.

Speaker 3 (36:24):
So you could see if it was like almost muted
and you weren't quite paying attention to the things that
they were saying before the match, right, and you kind
of as for the champions, Oh, it was for the chance.
They kept showing titles. They kept showing a graphic of titles.
I was like, obviously this bro I was hold on man.

Speaker 1 (36:42):
I was like, oh, they switched it up. They said,
no more Tony, We're gonna have a feel of four way.

Speaker 3 (36:46):
Okay, I'm not gonna I'm not joking. Sometimes a finish
of a match will get me off my seat and
be like, oh shit, I gotta turn volume. I gotta
like rewatch this now. It's really important, right, finish right,
like Samoe Joe and on Paige whoa whoa, oh shit right?
Like I was like, Okay, I'll take notice of that.
I was so taken aback by the women's tag team

(37:07):
at I literally had to like reshuffle myself. It threw
me the fuck off. I was like, it was a
dusty finish. I got dusty finished. I was like, they
won the titles, Mike, they want to No, they're not water,
They're not giving it to them. Oh shit, right, I was.
I was pissed. I was legit pissed. So that happened.
So let's talk about Survivors series that's apparently happening this weekend. Yes,

(37:32):
it's Saturday. Oh my god, I don't think I'm gonna
be watching live, Guys, I can't believe. I don't think
I'm gonna be able to watch it live. I think
I have literally anything better to do.

Speaker 1 (37:41):
A nice seven o'clock airtime. We'll probably get done by
ten thirty.

Speaker 3 (37:46):
The most great I got the Flyers. I'll be listening
to the Flyers game on the radio.

Speaker 4 (37:53):
You can listen to the Flyers, watch Survivors Series, and
then be confused by somebody didn't win a championship.

Speaker 3 (37:59):
Okay, that is sounds too real and it's too soon.
That's wild to hear like that, Like you're making fun
of me. But and then I got the Eagles on Friday.
The fun are we doing here? Dude? It's crazy in
the NFL. Now, okay, let's talk about Survivors series. We'll
do a full preview. Get your dlo brown heads out,
pop you're starting, roll them, roll your shoulders, roll your shoulders, dude.

(38:25):
Oh you know you're looking good. Uh So, let's who
you got and how's it shake out? We're gonna do.
Why is this so small? Okay, now it's bigger. Whoa,
that's bigger?

Speaker 1 (38:40):
He remembered. The Elite got back.

Speaker 3 (38:42):
I clicked in the spoiled fourth wall in our rundown.
It's a little tiny picture of match card and then
you click it and it goes full fucking scream and
it's like it's the smallest ever. And now it's like
my grandfather's phone.

Speaker 4 (38:58):
It's any anytime there's like this morning event and it
goes viral where some guys like texting some just disgusting
fucking shit with the biggest text ever.

Speaker 3 (39:07):
Yeah, fucking dude, that's what I'm talking about. I hope,
I hope I'm old in text and dirty shit. That
means I lived a good life. But you know that's
in my opinion. Uh see, I'm punk. Cody Roads the USOS.
That's Jay and Jimmy for those who don't know, uh
and Romeo rags against the Visions, bron Breaker, Bronsori Logan, Paul,
Drew McIntyre and Brock. The slipping on the wet spot.

(39:29):
That's why they had a little guy on the NBA
with the broom Lesler. My favorite, my favorite part, My
favorite part is when they're coming back and they show
Drew McIntyre go over and like check the spot and
it doesn't even ign. Dont even look at Brock, he
just double checks the spot.

Speaker 4 (39:47):
It reminds me of a Muppet Family Christmas one of
my favorite freaking like Christmas specials where they all slip
on the little icy patch in the doorway when they
go to Bozzi's mom's house.

Speaker 3 (39:57):
I remember that. But real quick, this is gonna say,
really weird. What's the Otter movie again?

Speaker 4 (40:03):
Em and Otter's joke band Christmas brother An absolutely class.

Speaker 3 (40:08):
Last year we talked about it.

Speaker 4 (40:10):
Sound so hard for it, and then the only person
who understood it was fucking Jim del Choppo because he's
ninety years ago.

Speaker 3 (40:16):
I was gonna say he was like twenty one when
it came out.

Speaker 4 (40:20):
He vouched for it, and then you were like, all right,
I'll give it a try.

Speaker 1 (40:23):
I close my door.

Speaker 3 (40:25):
Oh my fucking all, my studio, they're just hanging out. Dude,
My meat low what was his name died?

Speaker 4 (40:34):
John Clayton, Don.

Speaker 3 (40:36):
Clayton, those good times. Okay, So Mike, he got how
the chake out?

Speaker 4 (40:42):
Uh stacked fucking match.

Speaker 3 (40:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (40:45):
I would rather Johnson have been than Cody Rose, but
you know, beggars can't be choosers. Still a lot of
good talent in this match. I I don't think the
Babyface team gains much from winning here, m hm, because
he already got Punk with the world title, you got
Cody with W Championship. I think the Visions team has

(41:07):
to win because you've got mc entyre chasing W Championship
with Cody, You've got like bron and Bronson kind of
chasing the world title with with Punk. You know, Brock,
he's only had one match since he came back, So
it feels to me like the heel team gains a
lot more. I think that there's some kind of a
breakdown between Roman Punk and Cody that segment. Row was

(41:28):
great to ope in the show, just all kind of
you know, Cody and Punk Bowl trying to say it's
their team, and then Rain's kind of king them on
and creating an issue between them even further. And then
the best part of it was the end of it
where Roman's like, oh, I'm coming for your title and
then he's walking away like were you're talking to me?

Speaker 1 (41:44):
Or you're talking to me?

Speaker 4 (41:44):
He's like, You're gonna have to find that out for yourself.
So I think there's definitely an issue between those guys,
and the Heel team capitalizes on that and ends up
pointing the match because of it.

Speaker 3 (41:56):
I like that I was gonna say some convoluted bullshit
it here. No, I guess I could just save it
by just saying, yeah, that one article. I know, I'm off.
I took the week off.

Speaker 1 (42:10):
I do agree with Mike about all things you said.
Recall last year see him Punk save Roman reigns from Tsunami,
and I think the role is gonna be a bit reversed.
And Roman doesn't save Punk, not like it's exactly on purpose,
but enough to where you're like, did you do it
on purpose?

Speaker 3 (42:32):
Still?

Speaker 1 (42:33):
Yeah, because I think they still like I think very
much like that Roman reigns is a face. I don't
think you need to turn him heel. I think I
think even if you had, like for example, Rome Range
will see him punk and they're both babyfaces and it's
perfectly fine.

Speaker 3 (42:48):
And today just make it. We just make Roman like
DTA guy.

Speaker 4 (42:52):
I think that's what he is at this point. I
think that's what he's always going to be. I don't
think he's ever going to be a full on heel
again because he's so over imposular, so.

Speaker 3 (43:00):
Works, the teeth, they really bring it all together. Well,
it just brings it all together, the hair, the teeth,
the face, you know what I mean, Like if you
had those jagged ass fucking jenko Lyn last.

Speaker 4 (43:10):
Week, but he didn't have that anymore yes week.

Speaker 1 (43:14):
Shoot shoot. So yeah, I think there's something like that
that happens where you start to set up It couldn't
even be Cody Roads what happens for either one where
you start setting up that. Okay, Roman is definitely going
after the championship, I'll probably be a WrestleMania mm.

Speaker 3 (43:27):
Hmm, yeah, I would assume so. ALRIGHTA Ripley EO Sky
Alexa Bliss, Charlotte Flair and A J. Lee against Nia
Jack's Lash Legend, the Kabooki Warriors, and Becky Lynch. I
like Becky Lynch when she talks.

Speaker 1 (43:42):
I think was awesome.

Speaker 3 (43:44):
I will say this to you from the bottom of
my heart. Becky Lynch is the best of the four
horse then. I don't think it's close.

Speaker 4 (43:51):
I always uh was very clear about saying how she
was so much better as a heel. Uh you called
me slurs and all kinds of things.

Speaker 3 (44:00):
I don't doubt that, but not in this context. I
like her in both formats. Everybody everybody's more boring as
a face. It's just fact.

Speaker 1 (44:07):
When she was a man, it was good.

Speaker 3 (44:09):
Yeah. Yeah, even then she was more stone cold than
she was just and.

Speaker 1 (44:13):
Then she won a championship and then they sucked it
up exactly. But there's like Donald Trump character she has
is incredible, hilarious.

Speaker 4 (44:21):
Has has some shitty nickname for everybody she dislikes.

Speaker 3 (44:25):
We we didn't.

Speaker 4 (44:26):
Talk about yet, but she drops the fucking icy Teddle
the magazine you pree, which is that pretty shocking.

Speaker 3 (44:33):
You haven't told us nine times about it?

Speaker 1 (44:35):
He told me about it about it I don't like
talking to you anymore, dude.

Speaker 3 (44:40):
I gotta tell you, thank you for that. Thank you
tell him on the side. That's fine. I don't need
to hear about you. Tell me that midst my brother
got me tickets went to this has show. I kind
of you smiles. I had a good.

Speaker 4 (44:53):
Time at all.

Speaker 3 (44:56):
Anyway, that was.

Speaker 4 (44:57):
A fun, fun moment and a good way to continue
the a J and Becky feud. And I liked how
they kind of inserted them to this match on another
Stack Wargames match. I like lash legend being this.

Speaker 1 (45:07):
I hope she gets just like a lot of run
and just kind of like.

Speaker 4 (45:16):
The Baby's team might be like the most star studded
women's war Games team has ever been. I love the
dynamic with Alexa and Charlotte and with ree Andeo. I
think this is kind of the opposite of the other
match though. I think that you know, the baby Faces,
I think they do gain more from from winning this match,
Like you have so many of your top stars, so

(45:36):
I think they win. I think it's pretty straightforward. You know,
Becky doesn't have the Icy title anymore, but I kind
of feel like she's gonna win it back. In short, order,
and then you know AJ being on the winning team here,
you can kind of build to them having a title
match in the new Freud Road.

Speaker 3 (45:52):
Say, yeah, I like I said, I I actually think
that what you're gonna get is you're gonna get Becky
beating a j Lee and so sneaky snaky way steals it. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (46:03):
Yeah, you said you agree with Mike, So I'm confused now.

Speaker 3 (46:06):
No, No, like I I know, I was saying, like,
I see what you said about coke earlier. Yeah, no,
I don't. I'd have you seen me. I am not
a cookade. I don't do cookade. My heart goodn't handle it.
My fat body would not be here if that.

Speaker 4 (46:18):
Was a can.

Speaker 1 (46:19):
Oh you should definitely do with them.

Speaker 3 (46:21):
No, I fucked up. My heart will not. Oh you're
trying to kill me. Oh I just got n Hopefully.

Speaker 4 (46:28):
Soon this rate could do a segment.

Speaker 3 (46:31):
He would not even You'd be like, and we're gone
and we're all careful of the podcast anymore.

Speaker 1 (46:38):
Sorry, people don't know how to do it.

Speaker 3 (46:40):
And somebody would find it. I'd be like, we gotta
make our eight dollars.

Speaker 1 (46:44):
Actually disagree with you, Mike. I feel like the heels
need need him more, but I don't think they're going
to win. So I do agree with that the.

Speaker 4 (46:50):
Faces win, but have the titles.

Speaker 1 (46:53):
I know, but like my last legend aren't really established
like that, especially the last legend of course coming for
next tea. And yeah, the women seem is so star
studded that I don't think they knew as much as
the heels. But I definitely think the women win. But
to hit the Faces win, I was gonna.

Speaker 3 (47:08):
Say, you said, like three whatever two times? You know,
the Heels win, I just said to John Cena. And
the hook of w W Dominic mysterious.

Speaker 4 (47:19):
Has been I've always been right about that.

Speaker 3 (47:21):
No, no, no, no. Do you think do you think Sina
wins here?

Speaker 4 (47:26):
No?

Speaker 3 (47:26):
I do I think he wins here? And I think
the last match standing is for the icy title.

Speaker 1 (47:31):
Oh interesting, very interesting.

Speaker 3 (47:37):
That's kind of sad.

Speaker 1 (47:39):
He just win clean.

Speaker 4 (47:41):
Yes, here's the thing, I don't think. I don't think
Sena is gonna lose his last two matches. I don't
know you want to have I don't think you want
to have him going into his last match coming off
a loss.

Speaker 3 (47:55):
Let me let me say something about DOM is a
good listen Dom for what dom is I'm all jokes aside.
Dom is not a genuinely serious character though, right, No,
he's a heat right, so him losing to see, he's
the kind of guy it takes the loss, it doesn't matter.
He gets the rub from CNA and he gets into

(48:16):
a memorable bit with him, right and like that's and
that's really all he needs. And then Sina goes out
on his back. To whoever wins this tournament, I actually
don't think.

Speaker 1 (48:24):
It's clean win.

Speaker 4 (48:26):
I mean, to a point, I think that Judgment Day
gets involved in the Ray helps Sina, and you get
the Ray because you know, weeks and weeks ago, we
thought we were talking about Survivors series and we're like, oh,
what could have have you happening? And then he had
like an epiphany like, oh, it's in San Diego. Maybe
Ray ors Dom.

Speaker 3 (48:41):
I read about that. Actually on the fat.

Speaker 4 (48:44):
They're not doing that, but you can still get the
Ray Dom moment here, which I think is definitely gonna
happen because you know, Ray helped Sina and Raw and
they faced Judgment Day and the six Man. So I
think Sina wins with help from Ray and you know Dom,
it's gonna be interesting what his reactions like because it's
his hometown, so you might get big time Babyface. But
then he's facing Sena who's also gonna get big time

(49:05):
baby Face. So I am looking forward to this match.
It should be fun. But yeah, I think Sina wins
because I just don't see him going into his last
match on a losing note. And then, you know, I
think we have to assume at this point Guther is
gonna win the tournament to face him and then maybe
goother and you can have a good story to tell
with the Icy title because Luther is the longest rating

(49:27):
Icy Champion of all time, so they more makes more
sense for Sina to have the title going into that
and Guther.

Speaker 3 (49:33):
Guther wins the bracket, Guther wins the title, Boom, John
Cena goes away, Guther says, I've retired John Cena and yeah,
so look he could be could be the legend killer again.

Speaker 1 (49:48):
Seem like I agree with you, but everything about how
it unfold, but I think the judgment day do help Dom.
When Ray comes out, the baby Faces stand tall to
get that pop and John's he goes out on the loss,
but he was screwed over. So it's not exactly like
he lost as he was screwed over. I think you
just had the title change to give Sena in his

(50:08):
hometown a big moment. He becomes a Grand Slam champion.
Ever got that opportunity. So now you have that, you
got a little program with Dom. He gets the rub
coming out of it.

Speaker 3 (50:19):
Door a lot of like, hey, a lot of pity
fucking shit happened, you know what I mean. Like it's
like they handed like if they handed Tom, Like it's
like a Tom Brady came back with the Raiders next
year obviously, and they're just like, here's a championship, thanks
for coming thanks for coming.

Speaker 1 (50:34):
Back, exactly. And so to me, like the tournament is
to be able to face John Cena and retire him,
which Gunther would do. I don't think you need to
be where he also wins the Icy Championship. I think
Dom is deserving it, being then actual champion. I think
he's had an entertaining run also. I just I just

(50:55):
feel like the tournament itself is just facing Johnson. I
think that's the championship in itself.

Speaker 3 (50:59):
When I have the championship and that so I do.

Speaker 4 (51:01):
Agree that you don't need it, but I think just
if Guther is the winner, I do think it adds
to it, which is why I think also.

Speaker 3 (51:07):
Gives Guther something coming out of it too, which is
the problem beating John and then what.

Speaker 1 (51:12):
Probably going against them. Punk, like at the Royal Rumble,
I don't think he beats or being in the room,
I don't think. I think I think is past the
Icy Championship at this point.

Speaker 3 (51:24):
That's fair.

Speaker 1 (51:24):
I also agree with that Hunk beat Gunther at SummerSlam,
and Hunter has not gone after him yet because he's
in the tournament. He came back for this tournament so far,
so I think you had him.

Speaker 3 (51:34):
I do want to retire Punk retire, maybe retires.

Speaker 1 (51:39):
He retires scene in the same year and then he
goes on and wins or you know, faces cm Punk
for the championship with the Royal Rumble, or he's in
the role and maybe he wins it.

Speaker 3 (51:49):
All enough, wait, real quick, real quick.

Speaker 4 (51:53):
Though. The main event is the segment that Dom had
on Raw where he brought out.

Speaker 1 (51:58):
Oh, Dave Melter is very unhappy with this.

Speaker 3 (52:01):
That is some. That is some. Vince McMahon exactly, you
le we LC Hey, I didn't say it was bad.
I'm saying this is some Vince McMahon.

Speaker 4 (52:11):
They play the music so fans think that see it's
a surprise, you.

Speaker 3 (52:15):
Know, that's literally, that's literally Vince mc man He did
with the Mizz when he made him just like the Rock.

Speaker 1 (52:19):
He did it with Brett Hart after he left for w.

Speaker 3 (52:22):
Dude, like, yeah, this is a again, I don't know
why I'm being yelled at.

Speaker 4 (52:25):
It is a man cutting a great actually many John
to cut a green pro with the crowd was so
into it. And then they had Mini stew the cameraman
on his little box camera and then Dominic kicked the
out of him.

Speaker 3 (52:43):
Well that's it.

Speaker 1 (52:43):
I thought that was entertaining segment, but hilarious segment. Yeah,
evidently people are crying like they.

Speaker 3 (52:50):
Step occur against Nikki Bella in my main event, bitch.
So for whatever reason, since the Real Quick before we
yelled at again, since the rise of Total Divas, right,
let's bread total bellis right. So I've been on a

(53:15):
press list for all kinds of stuff for years, right,
and I block a lot of it, but I always
find wrestling stuff. I leave it, I let it go through.
And for whatever reason, I'm on the press junket for
Free and Nikki's podcast, so I get all the tidbits
of their podcast, and every single time that comes through,

(53:38):
they send a short snit bit transcription. I read it
one hundred percent of the time because, without fail, it's
some of the most I'm gonna just say, are worded
things I've I've ever heard in my.

Speaker 4 (53:53):
Life, I've ever heard of.

Speaker 3 (53:56):
In my life. Dude, I didn't say it, I skirted it,
but but just it's truly is you know, it is wild?
And Nicki Bella is like, oh, man, I didn't realize
how fast these girls were in a straw and they
were I'm so excited to fight stephan the cur and
she's really good. I'm gonna show her how we do
it in my generation and shit like that. And then

(54:18):
in the same breath she's like, yeah, my legs don't
quite work like they did before. I was just like, what, dude,
So this is gonna be a fucking banger, dude. And
the fact that Nikki Bella is getting this spot is
fucking wild to me. Is she that big of a
star she can't be right, NICKI, Yeah, this is wild.
I hate I don't think.

Speaker 4 (54:39):
She's I mean, in terms of women's wrestling. She's she
has some crossover.

Speaker 3 (54:44):
I don't understand why she's being featured so prominently like this.

Speaker 4 (54:49):
I honestly, and I'm not I'm not a nicky fan,
but you brought her in and you did this little
angle with her, like helping Stephanie, and then she turns
on her. It's just a win for Steff and against
the name brand.

Speaker 3 (55:02):
It's it's she's awful in every fashion. So your your.

Speaker 1 (55:08):
Division of relevancy is in the workings, right, So I
have no problem with this.

Speaker 4 (55:12):
It's it's you know, it could be a one off.

Speaker 3 (55:16):
Here's what. Here's why I'm excited for this the match
I'm most excited for, and it's because, yes, this one,
because truly, because of the chaos of this. But it
was it was don't it was terrible. It was terrible.
She's terrible.

Speaker 1 (55:33):
I don't think she's terrible. Don't think she was terrible
before she retired, but.

Speaker 3 (55:38):
I can't speak to that. But since she's been back,
since she's been back, it's been dog due like it's
not good. And honestly, when she sucks up in the ring,
it's watch, oh you like the fat bitch?

Speaker 4 (55:51):
You know, I am away, but it was still I
get it.

Speaker 3 (55:55):
I'm not She's yeah, I.

Speaker 1 (55:57):
Think, and attacking stuff from behind on root.

Speaker 4 (56:06):
I think it's fine.

Speaker 3 (56:08):
Nikki's like I'm Latin. It's like, okay, we got it.

Speaker 4 (56:12):
Yet she can't pronounce any ship, Like.

Speaker 3 (56:16):
All right, dude, relax, I believe it ship. Yeah. I
can't wait for this, my mos anticipating match right there,
one hundred percent, dude. You know me, I'm here for
the Chaos Games. It reminds me back in the day
of when we first started the podform games, when we
can complain about the content that the quality of wrestling,
like all the matches are gonna be banger, it's gonna

(56:38):
be fun ship, right. But back in the day when
we first started this twenty thirteen, we're like, oh my god,
why is this? Why are these two.

Speaker 1 (56:45):
People Adam Rose Camacho, Yeah, great.

Speaker 3 (56:48):
Collee against fucking like, You're like, what are we doing here? Dude?

Speaker 4 (56:53):
I need more A long way.

Speaker 3 (56:56):
It's it's honestly incredible. This Nikki Bella being against the
Cord shows like the vast difference in quality, you know
what I mean, Like Stephan in a court for today,
that's like, that's the bar we're setting is like in
terms of entering quality, that's pretty damn good. And then
Nikki Bella was like the standard for her time and
maybe she was like top end of that time in

(57:16):
a weird way, right, you can say it what but
in terms of a lot of the talent they had,
she was like, it's hern Alicia Fox right there. You know.
But I'm just said, it's like, it's so crazy to
see the fucking difference in just a few years because
they sucked and they're really good now. Girls. Man, look
at them.

Speaker 1 (57:35):
Girl, I'm gonna give I'm gonna give Nikki that she
was better.

Speaker 3 (57:38):
Than Yeah, I said that. I said, that's the bar.
It's one night won big.

Speaker 1 (57:42):
She was better than bree Yah.

Speaker 3 (57:44):
Dude. But if I don't need a breath, man, more
time in my life comes out to help, No, please, dude,
for love of God, Deep Brah is like, I don't care.
I don't care. It was ship last time is now
tournament pent is hurt over j uso.

Speaker 4 (58:04):
I think you guys think, yeah, you think over l A. Knight, Oh.

Speaker 3 (58:10):
Final, it doesn't matter, it doesn't matter.

Speaker 4 (58:16):
But I think because of Jay and history, they're gonna
go with Jane Gun there.

Speaker 3 (58:21):
Yeah, maybe they do l A.

Speaker 4 (58:22):
Knight.

Speaker 1 (58:23):
I would like it to be l A.

Speaker 4 (58:24):
Knight.

Speaker 3 (58:26):
I'm sorry, they'll push him. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. That's
not in the cards to push him. I'm sorry. And
next see Deadline Holy Ship. All I see is t
b A except for Ricky Saints and no but family.

Speaker 4 (58:38):
Family is gonna choose who's in the Iron Survivor Challenge matches.

Speaker 3 (58:42):
What's Iron Survivor Challenge match? Stop? I don't care.

Speaker 1 (58:46):
They've had of them.

Speaker 3 (58:47):
I don't care.

Speaker 4 (58:48):
That determines the number one contender for the titles.

Speaker 3 (58:50):
So it's like a Worst Casino Gauntlet.

Speaker 4 (58:52):
No, it's actually way better. It's actually created.

Speaker 3 (58:54):
It's like a worst Casino. I do not care. Bro
Ob Femi is heading to the main roster, so he's
taking that L.

Speaker 1 (59:04):
I gotta be honest with I am furious that he's
in this match that he wasn't in a tournament. It
really pisses me off.

Speaker 4 (59:10):
I will say this really, just when he lost, I
was like, don't bring them back and then have him
like lose again, Like there's no point to it.

Speaker 3 (59:19):
I think real quick. One of the things okay with
Triple H took over creative after Vincer Graam was unjustifiably ousted.

Speaker 1 (59:27):
Right.

Speaker 3 (59:29):
One of the things that I said it nicely, so
do you have to listen respect? One of the things
that I hope, I hope for many changes, right, and
Triple H was supposed to be this bastion of change
we're so excited for. Right. One of the things that
has killed my heart the hardest since Triple H took
over is the the lack of connection between n x

(59:50):
T and the main roster. Still maybe it's better than
it was, but it's still god awful. And the follow
through with people like Carmelo Hayes have has been like criminal.

Speaker 4 (01:00:06):
When you're calling somebody up, they there should instantly be
significant plans.

Speaker 3 (01:00:11):
Yeah, you should have one writer, one writer who's just
like you're now. With Carmelo Hayes, we don't let him fail.

Speaker 4 (01:00:17):
Sometimes they seem like they were playing, but like Carl
Hayes is a perfect example.

Speaker 3 (01:00:21):
The obviously like I think Carmelo Hayes may be their
biggest fuck up, And I really do hope he dips
and goes to a W and fucking becomes.

Speaker 4 (01:00:30):
I don't be dips. I hope they just figured it out.

Speaker 3 (01:00:33):
They lost that privilege. Now they lost the hates the privilege.

Speaker 1 (01:00:37):
It really is absolute bullshit. What'll happen with him?

Speaker 3 (01:00:40):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:00:41):
He was the guy in the x T clearly the
best one and called up as what was it like
a first round pick on the draft and sadown and
then nothing that.

Speaker 4 (01:00:54):
They originally intended to make him a big thing and
I don't think I mean to.

Speaker 1 (01:00:59):
Have a surprise factor typical events move.

Speaker 4 (01:01:01):
Yeah, but no, they wouldn't do a first round pick
if they weren't like originally thinking like, we're gonna do
something big with this guy. But then they were just like,
now we're not going Well, they didn't do it. So I.

Speaker 3 (01:01:14):
Patreon pole results, a lot of them. I'm dancing on
this pole looking for these results.

Speaker 1 (01:01:22):
For those they don't know. The first of every month
we put a pole Patreon dot com, slash Ring Brest Radio.
Anyone supports us can vote and leave a comment. This
month's pole Curtsy and Mikeiri. Which is the best team
in ww Survivor series history.

Speaker 4 (01:01:39):
That's a good one, Stupid and guesses. Gush Team WWF
from Team WWWS for c Alliance.

Speaker 3 (01:01:48):
I'm gonna say that one tag team match from like
eighty eight that had like with the ten teams ten teams,
five teams us five teams. Let's say that much. You're wrong, really,
thank you so much. Tell me.

Speaker 1 (01:02:07):
Yeah, we have a three way tie for first place. Okay,
primarily votes a piece, primarily because the Ringers radio count
did not vote and the three people voted and they
all picked one.

Speaker 3 (01:02:22):
Eat yo, can I ask? Can I just? I mean yeah,
he was this just Strap Layton real quick, PJ. Can
I take you aside for a second, real quick, just
grab your albow over us, just PJ. Just over here,
sit over here on the side. It will be right. Backer.
But hey, buddy, hey buddy, just give me percentages or something,
you know what I mean. Just say thirty three, thirty

(01:02:45):
three thirty three because those numbers are a lot more
than one one one. Okay, that's three people. But I
don't like it. Save people are never gonna step up.
They don't. This is Wikipedia with.

Speaker 1 (01:02:59):
Thirty three point three teams smacked down from twenty sixteen.
That was a J Styles, Gray, Yadna and Bros. Randy
Or and Shamkman. Okay, Team w so mich was correct, Yes,
and the Hulk of Maniacs from nineteen nine, Hull Callga
and Jake Roberts and Demolition.

Speaker 4 (01:03:14):
Oh yeah, all right, that.

Speaker 3 (01:03:16):
Was Mike's vote.

Speaker 4 (01:03:18):
I don't I'm down there.

Speaker 3 (01:03:20):
No, No, you signed out the backdoor? Did I know you?

Speaker 1 (01:03:22):
Now? We had a couple of top ten lists that
we did.

Speaker 3 (01:03:26):
One that was who was.

Speaker 1 (01:03:27):
The best top ten list of the best w Survivor
series things.

Speaker 3 (01:03:30):
Ever happened to? Thanksgiving dinner party?

Speaker 1 (01:03:32):
Calm down, saving I had the best for last.

Speaker 3 (01:03:36):
That's a that's a subjective statement.

Speaker 1 (01:03:38):
No subjective guys want to say you guess who was
the best top ten list for.

Speaker 4 (01:03:44):
The best for both motherfucker or whoever the bring us
accountvoted for.

Speaker 1 (01:03:48):
Yes, I came first. Then Mike, you had zero votes?

Speaker 3 (01:03:52):
So what you got zero votes?

Speaker 4 (01:03:54):
Like?

Speaker 3 (01:03:55):
Could you put out of a thousand of votes you
got zero votes?

Speaker 4 (01:03:58):
Dude, who has give me account on there?

Speaker 1 (01:04:02):
Who has the best top ten list for the best
survivoryes pay per view moments?

Speaker 3 (01:04:06):
I'll send it to my family.

Speaker 4 (01:04:07):
Just whoever voted the rings kout voted for correct on
it came in second?

Speaker 3 (01:04:12):
Because okay is the.

Speaker 4 (01:04:14):
Same, It's the ring rest of account beg and Rusty
Reynoldses had less votes.

Speaker 3 (01:04:24):
Votes are you just can we just open the voting
to anybody who gets on the site you make it.
If you pay a dollar, you can go on.

Speaker 1 (01:04:33):
If you support us, you can.

Speaker 3 (01:04:35):
We should just make it free and then we can
send it to social media where they will definitely not.

Speaker 1 (01:04:41):
Which Thanksgiving dinner party do you want to attend the
granddaddy of all the polls for this year?

Speaker 3 (01:04:50):
Great idea. I just want to say, great idea. When
I read this, it was like, Wow, great idea.

Speaker 1 (01:04:54):
This was insane.

Speaker 4 (01:04:56):
I like how it was your idea and you were
so obsessed with me that you turned it into just
like picking me and things you thought I hated.

Speaker 3 (01:05:05):
Well, I listen, I will tell the truth real quick
about that. I thought many ways I was gonna pick
people from the nineties. I was gonna pick like Monica
Lensky and Bill Clinton, Trent Green, right. I was just
gonna take people that like like fun things of the
Ring mess Radio passed. I was gonna take the worst
interviews we did with things. I was gonna take like
who's the dude from Lucca we hated that striker? That's

(01:05:30):
his name? Yeah, I locked him out of my fucking memory.
But no, I decided on making your Thanksgiving the worst
it could possibly be, and I think I did a
good job with that.

Speaker 4 (01:05:42):
I think.

Speaker 1 (01:05:43):
By the way, there was a comment on who has
the best top ten list for the best surpriv series
teams ever? Coreylinky says, once again Beg dominates. He should win,
so hangry. I doesn't need the show vote, but he
should take it anyway.

Speaker 3 (01:05:59):
And he he always all right, he did it here
too much.

Speaker 1 (01:06:08):
Mike is correct as usual, Donnie won dumb fucking gimmick
and I came in second. Then tied for third is
Mike Collen and Mongo.

Speaker 3 (01:06:21):
With zero votes.

Speaker 1 (01:06:24):
No, no, we do that, people do. Nathan tom Watam says,
without having listened to it yet, I can only assume
everyone had. On Donnie, we're trying to recreate the A
W Writer's room with some of his picks.

Speaker 4 (01:06:35):
Yeah it.

Speaker 1 (01:06:38):
Scott Davison says, as a huge Darts fan, I can't
believe I got a Luke Littler reference on Triple R
that said Mongo's last pick deserves my vote over Beg's
list was last his dad, his dad. I said to myself,
I couldn't dress Cinnamon so Jim del Choppo says, this
isn't even close. J and the and Slide. He has

(01:07:01):
it all legit. Not one bad selection here and shot
of the cooks smart man. Only questionable pick would be
the Niro because he's turned into a political loon, but
around this group he'd be waxing, poetic and back to
his old fun self. Landing Denzel on the last round
is almost criminal. I'll give Dante credit for playing together
in an interesting list.

Speaker 3 (01:07:21):
Had Hitler and Jesus, dude.

Speaker 1 (01:07:24):
While I'd hate to attend his dinner, I'd probably watch
the replay.

Speaker 3 (01:07:30):
Honestly, I went back and looked at Dante's list and
it's one of the wild It's one of the wildest
runs of fish. This is fucking crazy. And can I
tell you something. I would watch it live. I'd actually
make time to watch all Hitler back and with Jesus. God,
you would watch that on pay review, right, I.

Speaker 4 (01:07:52):
Wouldn't pay for it. I'd pirately watch it.

Speaker 3 (01:07:56):
Jesus coming back is like literally not even enough to
be like six bucks is a lot? Is he gonna
pay the bill? Is he gonna flip? Is Jesus gonna
flip the bill? Real? Sign up the Patreon dot com
I know HiT's.

Speaker 1 (01:08:09):
Patreon dot com slash ring Rust Radio to hear the
a version of podcast, your early access to our Best
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ten lists. Most importantly, you can sign up for our
final bracket of the year, taking place the next week.
That's Tuesday, December second, six pm Eastern. We're going to
determine the best Holiday movie character of all time?

Speaker 3 (01:08:32):
Oh, okay, like, what does that entail? What does that entail?

Speaker 1 (01:08:36):
Like?

Speaker 3 (01:08:36):
Can I be? Can I pick? Snoopy? Is Snoopy count?

Speaker 4 (01:08:40):
Snoopy is on the bracket?

Speaker 3 (01:08:42):
About Scooby?

Speaker 1 (01:08:44):
No, Scooby was not on the bractet.

Speaker 4 (01:08:46):
Shooby's gotten any kind of iconic Christmas movie or show?

Speaker 3 (01:08:50):
Did you not see Scooby do in The Abominable Snowman?

Speaker 4 (01:08:54):
That's not iconic.

Speaker 1 (01:08:55):
I'm sorry that Christmas run.

Speaker 3 (01:08:58):
There's several Christma screwy, abominable, abominab Hold on, I can
do this abominable abominable I had. I had to get
my I had my blunt face on, get my serious

(01:09:20):
face on. Okay, can we move on? Please? I'm out.

Speaker 6 (01:09:28):
Strange in the latest report. You gotta call dirt sheet buster,
pretious lies, anna risky sours, you gotta call dirt shoot buster.

Speaker 4 (01:09:42):
Scoopoop scoomoo s.

Speaker 6 (01:09:46):
No lies, no b tracks, purpose source. That's interesting to know.

Speaker 4 (01:09:58):
Alright, guys, it is time for my favorite segment of
the week, segment where Donald Wood goes away and everything
just gets a little brighter, smells a little better, tastes
a little better. It's dirt cheap busters. It's me and
Beg and nobody to bring us down.

Speaker 3 (01:10:17):
Love.

Speaker 1 (01:10:17):
I totally disagree with a lot of what you said,
because we have dirt sheep busters now. All these lies
and rumors going around pro wrestling from fucking morons, that's true.

Speaker 4 (01:10:28):
That is a negative, for sure, but it's a lot
better when you don't have somebody you're telling you you're
an asshole or whatever. Donnie does good, point good. We're
gonna kick off with one here, not saying it's us
busting a dirt sheep per se, but we're gonna make
fun of a dirt sheet as we do. Sean Samp

(01:10:50):
cries because he got worked by TNA.

Speaker 1 (01:10:53):
Oh yep.

Speaker 4 (01:10:56):
So for people that aren't familiar TNA uh Frankie Kazarian
beats Mike Santana for the TNA World Championship. A lot
of people were upset about this. George, Uh, but I
heard the news. I was like, that's awesome, because frank
it's fucking great. But whatever, and TNA, I guess they

(01:11:20):
kind of like tried to run an angle out of
this where it was like Santana was unhappy. They don't
know if he's gonna show up to the show or
he's not showing up to you know, appearances. That type
of deal.

Speaker 1 (01:11:34):
Very odd to be honest with your top baby face.

Speaker 4 (01:11:37):
Yeah, well, see, I don't know the circumstances of the match.
I didn't watch the match. Did he get screwed in
some way. If that's the case, then okay, I could
see it. If it was just like a clean finish,
then no, it doesn't really make a lot of sense.
But but Sean Sap tweets the Santana thing is a work,
don't know how else to put it. Should have probably

(01:12:01):
just posted that on their Twitter instead of feeding it
to the media like it was real. That's a no
go for me. First time an official company anofficial in
any company has done that with US, and then he
follows up, never, at any point and any time before
this is an official from w w A, W New Japan, TNA,
MLW et cetera, ever set me knowingly worked or false

(01:12:24):
information that I found out to be so in order
to advance an angle. I know a lot of people
think it's common.

Speaker 3 (01:12:30):
It's not.

Speaker 1 (01:12:33):
Okay.

Speaker 4 (01:12:34):
So yeah, a couple of things here, him saying me,
neither him saying TENA should have probably just posted that
on their Twitter, should have posted that this is a storyline,
like why would they ever do that? Why would any
company ever do that? And then him going off about
like I'm sending him false information. I've gone on record

(01:12:54):
with this before. I forget who did who? I think
he made fun of this before. It was like that
eyeboo guy is like, if you.

Speaker 3 (01:13:01):
Work the boys you're playing with. If you work the.

Speaker 4 (01:13:06):
Dirt sheets, oh you're really in for it.

Speaker 1 (01:13:08):
But if you work the boys, oh there's no.

Speaker 4 (01:13:10):
Coming back from that. Some bullshit like that about fucking
South Rollin's injury. I say, work the dirt sheets as
much as you possibly can, because that's the entire point
is that these dirt sheets, they don't give a fuck
about keeping your stuff under wraps. If they find out
about some big surprise that you have coming, Sean Sapp
will be the first one out there putting it out

(01:13:31):
there and ruining the surprise and ruining the moment for
the fans.

Speaker 1 (01:13:35):
And then you like to say, oh, I'm that's why
I'm doing it.

Speaker 4 (01:13:37):
It's like, Okay, that's fine, and that's your prerogative, but
don't cry. Then if you're giving information that is part
of a storyline and you fall for it being part
of a storyline, this is this is the world that
you're in, So you know, maybe it should be on
you to vet things a little bit better instead of
crying about it. So that's the thing I understand me

(01:14:01):
if I was a Dirk sheet writer, and I wouldn't,
I would expect that sometimes I would get information that
they're trying to put out there to either work me
or to you know, try to put out whatever narrative
they want to the fans. I would expect that, So
that should just be expected. And I actually, whether the

(01:14:21):
storyline is good or not, it doesn't sound like it's
particularly good, but I actually applaud TNA for doing that,
because yeah, don't we all think that wrestling was better
when we didn't know what was going to happen, when
stuff the lines were blurred and we thought stuff might
be real, and we didn't know every single fucking thing
that was going on. So I think for him to
cry about that, it's kind of pathetic.

Speaker 1 (01:14:43):
Yeah, I totally agree with you. You should be expecting
that the companies are going to try to work or
they don't want their plans to be leaked or get
out or anything like that. So I don't understand this
complaint to your point, Like why was that raw? It
was at MSG. I didn't look at any like news
or rumors or anything heading into the show, so I
had no clue whatsoever that Dolls Zicky was a possibility,

(01:15:08):
and no one around me knew either, and we were
all stunned. It was fucking awesome. It was like one
of the best like live moments I've had, same with
like you know, even like when we were at WrestleMania
with the Hardy Boys and like New Day came out
and they kind of made it seem like it was
going to be them, and then the Hardys came out.
Even though there was a ton of speculations that we
still had no idea one hundred percent that that was

(01:15:28):
going to happen, and we were still shocked, even though
all the rumors were like, Okay, they're probably gonna be there,
but so you didn't know. That's that is the most
fun in wrestling when you don't know. Just watch this fan.

Speaker 4 (01:15:41):
And the thing with Dollar were like I found out
I didn't know going in like he had his name
had been mentioned a little bits.

Speaker 1 (01:15:49):
Like it just speculated possibilit because of the whole team. Yeah,
but like I didn't know for sure because.

Speaker 7 (01:15:56):
Apparently there were there was like a rumor go around
before the show, but I and that was the same
thing with the Hardy Boys or Russemania, But there was
and I didn't see it, but there was a report
and I think it was inlightful about basically spoiling that
Dolls is.

Speaker 3 (01:16:10):
Gonna be the guy.

Speaker 4 (01:16:10):
So if I'm t n A from w B Money Company,
I'm not gonna want to necessarily help that guy out.

Speaker 1 (01:16:19):
If anything I want to send out false stuff.

Speaker 4 (01:16:24):
Is gonna be in the rumble. Theete and Jimmy Wang
Yang surprisessions all rights from TC of Wrestle votes of
course old TC uh W w is happy that a
celebrity angle went viral and created buzz. Do you think
that's true?

Speaker 1 (01:16:43):
I definitely think this is true. So this is like
Cam scadibum could be. Uh.

Speaker 4 (01:16:49):
The New York sports media has had a frenzy covering
Cam Scattaboo's appearance on Monday Night Raw last night alongside
fellow Giants rookies. Weren't there other Giants players there?

Speaker 1 (01:17:00):
I didn't even notice. They didn't even highlight that they were.
They said, like New York Giants when they flashed on
the screen, I had no idea who anyone else was
besides Can.

Speaker 4 (01:17:10):
It wasn't Jackson Dart. I think that would have been mentioned. No,
it's been the number one topic discussed today on both
ESPN New York and w F.

Speaker 1 (01:17:17):
A n WW source I texted today said they.

Speaker 4 (01:17:20):
Were pleased with the angle.

Speaker 3 (01:17:22):
Yes.

Speaker 4 (01:17:22):
I do believe that if WW does an angle and
it gets them time on like ESPN and their top
a topic of discussion in New York City, of all places,
I think they would be happy with that.

Speaker 1 (01:17:38):
So I think that exactly what they wanted to happen
is what happened.

Speaker 4 (01:17:42):
So they're pleased with it.

Speaker 3 (01:17:44):
YEP.

Speaker 4 (01:17:45):
Not worth if again, if they were unhappy that all
these great things happened and they got all his publicity,
then you report it and that I'm interested to know
why they're unhappy.

Speaker 1 (01:18:00):
Seem like this is the thing Fightful and Wrestle Bolts
they have plunged. The alliance recently is learning from Fightful,
where it's like just that they were happy that this
segment went over well with fans in the media.

Speaker 4 (01:18:14):
Dude, that's a great point because rests not perfect, but
over they've.

Speaker 1 (01:18:20):
Largely been solid.

Speaker 4 (01:18:21):
They've actually put out like real reports. This is right
out of that fucking playbook where it's like, well, got
nothing to say or report, but I got to meet
some kind of quota to make people think that I
have information. So let me just say that they're happy
that they got publicity.

Speaker 3 (01:18:40):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:18:41):
The next one's from fight Ful.

Speaker 4 (01:18:42):
Select guess when MJF is returning to a w Guess one.

Speaker 1 (01:18:50):
Sooner than later.

Speaker 4 (01:18:52):
Oh okay, that's a popular one among the sheets corn
of Fightful. Select the former aw World Championships spector to
return sooner than later.

Speaker 3 (01:19:02):
Let's go.

Speaker 4 (01:19:04):
Now that filming for Violent Night two is nearly complete,
Sources close to the situation revealed that while specific date
hasn't been nailed down and Jeff is factored in the
aw's creative plans by December, his role and frequency of appearances, however,
remain unclear for now. So he will be back sooner
and later, don't know when, don't know how much he'll
be used, don't know how it'll be used. Awesome class.

Speaker 1 (01:19:29):
And by the way, I think we bring it up
every time.

Speaker 4 (01:19:32):
What does sooner than later even mean?

Speaker 1 (01:19:35):
Sooner than before death?

Speaker 3 (01:19:38):
Sooner than later?

Speaker 4 (01:19:40):
The seconds from now is later.

Speaker 1 (01:19:42):
So if he doesn't return the next five seconds.

Speaker 4 (01:19:45):
That's not sooner than later, my rod.

Speaker 1 (01:19:49):
One of my favorite phrases and.

Speaker 4 (01:19:53):
Absolutely horrible uh slices and muslims over radio and p
w Insider, Drew McIntyre got suspended because he needed time
off to film a movie.

Speaker 1 (01:20:05):
Oh wait a second due, Okay, I was gonna say,
I feel like I've seen him on TV quite a bit.

Speaker 4 (01:20:13):
Despite Dave Meltzer claiming on Resting Serve Radio that McIntyre
was being written off television to film a movie, p
w insiters confirmed the head isn't true. Corner of the report,
mactear's suspension is purely part of his ongoing storylines backdown
and has nothing to do with any outside projects. His
absence is said to be a playing creative move designed
to build tension and add more depth to his current feud.

(01:20:36):
Great job on PW Insider here, because literally he was
back on the show like a week later, maybe two
weeks at most. Yeah, it was when he beat.

Speaker 1 (01:20:48):
Up fucking Cody yep.

Speaker 4 (01:20:50):
And he joins the war games team for the Eels.
So like, not even enough time to go film a movie.

Speaker 1 (01:20:58):
I honestly, I have no idea, just like expectally, I
wonder if there's even any filming going on around the holidays,
like we're having a Thanksgiving, but he would have been gone,
like they would have been filming a movie now.

Speaker 3 (01:21:08):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:21:09):
So I know he's in the some kind of like
new Highlander movie because I had to write about it
a while back. I don't remember if it was known
like when the filming was gonna happen. Maybe the filming
already happened to be honest like, so I have no clue.
But obviously Melt's very wrong in this one because he
missed literally no time.

Speaker 1 (01:21:29):
Zero time, zero fund sir.

Speaker 4 (01:21:32):
Next one's been fight for select DG. How about that
big Hangman victory at full gear?

Speaker 1 (01:21:39):
About it? Wait a second, I watched that show.

Speaker 4 (01:21:42):
Mm hm the Dangman winner did smooid juice is.

Speaker 1 (01:21:49):
Smooth jew.

Speaker 4 (01:21:53):
By the way, Samoa Joe Justin Roberts announcement of Samoa Joe.

Speaker 1 (01:21:59):
It's very annoying.

Speaker 4 (01:22:00):
It's horrible. He's horrible, not some mojo, He's awesome.

Speaker 1 (01:22:04):
I winning. So I'm very confused by this report. Maybe
it's a Hangman finally we lost the title, and that's
a victory for all of us.

Speaker 4 (01:22:10):
Okay, okay, uh tonya at full gear Hangman page defends
the AW World title against according to this uh right
up Samo Joe steel cage match some mojo jojo Flightful.
Flightful reports that the Joever's Hangman feud is expected to
continue in some capacity after it's event. The report also

(01:22:33):
notes that it was heavily implied that Hangman will likely
retain the AW World title.

Speaker 1 (01:22:38):
Wow, so's he gonna cry about AW officials? Got work, weeks,
getting work, got fucking work.

Speaker 3 (01:22:45):
You know.

Speaker 4 (01:22:45):
I thgt to bring it up, but and it was
like kind of a people replying to Sean Sapp going
off and like, of course, some people like agreed with him,
but then there are people like, hmmm, uh, when you
did that whole report about how JAF didn't show up
for his signing and he last thoroughly from the pay
per view and all that, and I don't remember you

(01:23:07):
coming out and crying about AW giving you a false information.
Oh kind of interesting if you ask me. Selective selective outrage. Yeah, yeah,
interesting stuff. But yeah, like of tears, Payman did not win.
He very much lost, and they gave up once again

(01:23:28):
on his title reign as he proved once again that
he's not a fucking top guy.

Speaker 1 (01:23:32):
Hey, Mike was only heavily implied that he would win.

Speaker 4 (01:23:35):
Heavily implied, Yeah, that's why he's not mad, because they
didn't say it out right, they're just heavily.

Speaker 1 (01:23:40):
That's an amazing new wrinkle to the dirty game, though,
Heavily implied.

Speaker 3 (01:23:44):
I like that. It's good.

Speaker 1 (01:23:45):
Listen, they've been you know, Melt has been doing like
forty years select a few years. You got to switch
it up every now and then. A new player in
the game has to be able to throw a wrench
into the system type select. Heavily implied, that's a good
one We're gonna put down lies exactly rid for the
Couder Graft doubles.

Speaker 4 (01:24:05):
From Wrestling Observer Live, al gets tricked by one of
the oldest wrestling tropes in the book O surprising because
this guy doesn't know anything pretty much but okay. On
Wrestling Server Live, Brian Alvarez revealed that aj Lee is
now expected to be the replacement for Charlotte Flair and

(01:24:28):
this year's Women's War Games Matches Survivor Series. Charlotte turned
down the spot and ww appears ready to slot aj
into the chaos instead. Alvarez broke down the internal lineup
currently being discussed. Here's a quote for the women. It's
real Ripley, EO Sky, Alexa Blist and not Charlotte Flair.
So it's expected to be aj Lee instead of her

(01:24:51):
against Naya Jack's Lash Legend Oscar and Kyrie saying and
someone else as well.

Speaker 1 (01:24:56):
Still got people to add.

Speaker 3 (01:24:59):
Wait, hold on, m hm.

Speaker 1 (01:25:01):
He's saying that A J Lee is replacing Charlotte, but
it would be a five on five.

Speaker 4 (01:25:08):
And they still got to add one more on each
side after that. Yeah, So this here's the thing so
stupid for people that don't know what they forgot. Here's
how it played out. Uh, you got Ria and EO
and Alexa all gung ho to be on the war
Games team because I got kind of like attacked by
the Heels, and then that you think Charlot's gonna be

(01:25:29):
part of it, and Charlotte's like, you know what, No,
I have too much history with Riha. I don't trust her. Sorry, Alexa,
I can't do it, and she leaves. And then after this,
So if you have half a fucking brain I've ever
watched wrestling before, you realize that Charlotte will within the
next week or two come to her senses and actually
help her friend Alexa Bliss and join the team.

Speaker 1 (01:25:51):
Right, Yeah, I thought it was very obvious it's gonna
be for It was the most.

Speaker 4 (01:25:55):
Fucking obvious thing ever, because why would Charlotte Flair has
been this entire time, one of your biggest stars not
be in the war Games match that way, and she's
been feuding with the Kabuki Warriors who was on the
other team. Would never happen. Obviously she's gonna be on
the team. Hell sees this though, He's like, you know what,
I'm gonna take this at face value.

Speaker 1 (01:26:12):
I Charlotte is telling me the truth.

Speaker 4 (01:26:14):
She's not gonna be in it. She's gonna get replaced
by a J. Lee and then we're gonna find some
random fifth person.

Speaker 3 (01:26:20):
To add to the team.

Speaker 4 (01:26:21):
And that's what they're gonna do.

Speaker 1 (01:26:24):
That's he must have thought. I mean, I'm a it's
fucking dumb. But it's like I maybe he thought it
was gonna be like Maxine and Becky added, it's just
so stupid though, because it was so obvious what was happening.
I thought it was just gonna be a four on four.
I was more surprised that they even added a fifth person. Well,
I thought it would be.

Speaker 4 (01:26:41):
A fIF a five on five and I but I
certainly thought Charlotte would be part of the five on
five or at four and four. However, money you want
to fucking have, Charlotte was always going to be in it.
And like for so and then this guy will go
and kind of he's very condescending. He'll talk down to
people and act like he's the greatest and he's holier

(01:27:02):
than now and he knows everything about wrestling because he
fucking worked the Seattle Indies for a couple of years
and couldn't run the ropes. But but then he gets
strict by something like this, and then he like kind
of sort of tries to act like he's reporting this
like he knows, which he doesn't. He's getting work, and
then trying to report based off of that, and he

(01:27:24):
just makes him look more and more stupid. So in
some many of sects, he's almost as bad as Melts
because or maybe even worse in some ways, just because
Melts does obviously have some sources and he gets some
stuff right. He's also wildly fucking wrong on stuff, and
he's very hypocritical in a lot of ways.

Speaker 3 (01:27:40):
But Elle has no.

Speaker 4 (01:27:42):
Sources and knows nothing and pretends.

Speaker 1 (01:27:44):
To Yeah, I don't like how condescending you were to
the Seattle, INDI scene though, my bad.

Speaker 4 (01:27:50):
I know it, I know delivered Daniel Brian. I don't
think much else came from the Seattle in DC though,
my bad? She how did we do games?

Speaker 3 (01:28:11):
All?

Speaker 1 (01:28:11):
Right?

Speaker 4 (01:28:12):
Beg uh, they're che puzzled in the books?

Speaker 1 (01:28:15):
You know what that means? This is a big one.

Speaker 4 (01:28:19):
Fantasy Standings Update season forty one, So I'm so upset.
We've been talking about this for for months at this point.
It feels like and we're almost to the finish line
Survivor Series war Games, that's the end of the season.
Whatever happens on that show, that's it. And then a

(01:28:40):
new champion or potentially a.

Speaker 1 (01:28:43):
Repeat champion that's not happening.

Speaker 4 (01:28:46):
And no, okay, let's see no chance.

Speaker 1 (01:28:50):
I don't think I have no chance.

Speaker 4 (01:28:52):
Last place tend with negative seventy two point five dollars
would oh he gained some points though he did like
fifteen him Yeah, sole an epislute fucking.

Speaker 1 (01:29:05):
Losers and last by so much that's insane.

Speaker 4 (01:29:09):
Uh In ninth with negative twelve point well, he doesn't
have l a Night La Knight could lose between now
and then, but we'll see. Uh In ninth with negative
twelve point five Austin red so not good, but sixty
points better than.

Speaker 1 (01:29:23):
Donald would that's insane.

Speaker 4 (01:29:25):
Yeah. Uh And eighth with thirty Reggie gil So, Reggie
a whole one oh two point five better than Donald
Wood down on the plates.

Speaker 1 (01:29:36):
That's crazy.

Speaker 4 (01:29:38):
Uh In sevens with thirty seven point five George cruzser
you should be near Donnie, I think? Yeah? The besties.
Uh In six with forty big money Mike, Wow, is
this like.

Speaker 1 (01:29:53):
Your worst score ever to finish.

Speaker 4 (01:29:56):
I don't know, No, I don't know, it's not I'm
just and so like I'll gain like twenty and then
lose it right back, and I'm just like, I can't
sustain any momentum and season. I don't know what it is.
And then I end up having like Blake Monroe and
soul Ruka face each other.

Speaker 1 (01:30:12):
So I get, yeah, whatever, you know what, strategy I
got destroyed.

Speaker 4 (01:30:19):
I'm building for next season. High for fourth seventy two
point five ever since Godfrey and Ski.

Speaker 1 (01:30:28):
Podcast buddies. They built then are back and they're tied. Wow,
fucked up?

Speaker 4 (01:30:35):
Yeah? Uh in third with ninety mango and needs a
lot of points drafted just based on women he really
likes in a more respectable way than George Cruz draft stuff,
and that's why he's higher up. That's why he's got naet.

Speaker 3 (01:30:56):
Uh in second with one fifteen d G damn Mike.

Speaker 1 (01:31:03):
Uh you know what. That's a high score though.

Speaker 4 (01:31:07):
And in first with one thirty seven point five.

Speaker 3 (01:31:11):
Shit.

Speaker 4 (01:31:13):
Jim del Chopo, the man who, oh my god memory
showed up after the draft was over because he didn't
want to be on time. And he's just like, here's
five people that I'm gonna draft who weren't drafted and
that was his team.

Speaker 1 (01:31:29):
Wow, that's fucking nuts.

Speaker 4 (01:31:33):
Sammy's a carried him with the US Open Challenge. Yeah,
he also happened to draft Iliot Dragonov, who was injured
at the time. Dragonoff comes back, beats Sammy for the title,
and now dragon Off is continuing the US Open Challenge.
His points are based entirely off the fucking the US
Open Challenge. How can somebody be so lucky with their

(01:31:56):
picks like that?

Speaker 1 (01:31:58):
I think he had an inn on it, to be honest.

Speaker 4 (01:32:00):
I think I'll tell you what he doesn't have.

Speaker 1 (01:32:02):
That's fucking bullshit.

Speaker 4 (01:32:03):
He doesn't have any on the NFL because he's two
in ten in fantasy football.

Speaker 1 (01:32:07):
Yeah, well he traded his NFL fantasy knowledge for w
W fantasy knowledge.

Speaker 4 (01:32:12):
He talks all thatsout, Harold Fann and just to be
two and ten, man, that fucking sucks. So yeah, I
don't know what's coming down. You don't think you got
the horses to be able to know it's not possible.

Speaker 1 (01:32:27):
Open family, just never wrestle the entire dude since fucking Summerslane.

Speaker 3 (01:32:31):
We did this.

Speaker 1 (01:32:32):
He never wrestled like once. Basically, so did Penta lose
points Onday because he lost the match? He lost the loss? Okay, yeah,
so yeah, And I'm convinced that Johnson is gonna lose
to dom.

Speaker 4 (01:32:46):
I don't think so. So.

Speaker 1 (01:32:47):
I mean, it'd be amazing, but I can't.

Speaker 4 (01:32:50):
I think you get the fifteen there that brings you
to one thirty. You got anything else you can get?

Speaker 1 (01:32:55):
She's definitely gonna win. Oh okay, at she's good. At
worst she gets a d Q, right, so like, if
you might.

Speaker 4 (01:33:01):
Win, you might win.

Speaker 3 (01:33:02):
Then I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:33:04):
Dragon Off will probably have an open challenge. Sammy faces
solo and though oh so he can get an extra
five point right, five points from a tag team match
on the SmackDown.

Speaker 4 (01:33:16):
Yeah so he if if that f TS win, he'd
get five. If Dragonov wins, that's ten, so he gets
another fifteen yep to bring him to one fifty two
point five and you could get to one forty five.

Speaker 1 (01:33:31):
Such bullshit. I don't know, man, that's crazy. Penta fuck
me with.

Speaker 4 (01:33:38):
This his bum shoulder, man, yep?

Speaker 1 (01:33:41):
Sorry, do you think he would have won? I thought
he was gonna win.

Speaker 4 (01:33:45):
Me to take this take. This is a huge rate
of salt melts and al we claiming that Solo was
always supposed to win. That to me doesn't make much
sense because like, doesn't Pentavers Gonter make more sense as
a match than right, your solo and so heard him
and like, oh, anything can happen, but they're they're generally
not trying to book heelver's heel in a tournament.

Speaker 1 (01:34:06):
Right, So that's the thing, Like if Pental won, that's
a disgal ten for me, that's minus ten for Jim.

Speaker 4 (01:34:15):
Yeah, that was a huge fucking swing.

Speaker 3 (01:34:18):
That's crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:34:20):
Fuck Fantasy in all shakes and formed this season basketball
football especially.

Speaker 4 (01:34:27):
All No, we're we're doing good football.

Speaker 1 (01:34:30):
No, I just lost.

Speaker 4 (01:34:32):
We'll see how all right, beij it's time for emails.

Speaker 1 (01:34:38):
Get happy. We had Fantasy an episode just you and
I do an emails.

Speaker 4 (01:34:44):
I would love that, to be honest with you. We've
done all emails episode before. But what Donnie included so
he kind of brought it down, but it was just us.
It'd be awesome, all right, guys, Uh send us an email.
Ring our Stradio at gmail dot dot com. Also go
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to the email to her higher We have to read

(01:35:05):
at least one of your emails every single month. The
first one from Dante fucking Kine Jaeger subject the young
and upcoming CM bitch thikes.

Speaker 1 (01:35:19):
Uh, this is this is insane. I read I almost
replied to your email sending this to us of like,
what the fuck? It's a very long email.

Speaker 4 (01:35:28):
I will read it and then we'll discuss hopeball as
well rusters. CM Bitch is nostalgia's gift to the hypocritical
w B fans around the world. I got some hypocrypticals,
the best in the world. Bullshit. CM Punk's return isn't
elevating shit in w W. It's about his w w's
ego colliding with each other. His passion is just arrogance,

(01:35:49):
and his voice is Miley Cyrus wrecking ball. To any
locker and wop song, I think he's actually been great
for the.

Speaker 1 (01:35:57):
B locker room. By all accounts.

Speaker 4 (01:36:00):
We have actual wrestlers like we have actual wrestlers like
jay Us Samy's Dying and Chad Gable La Knight, who
earned their spots through loyalty and effort. Handing Punk the
belt just crowns ego besides his name, why does he
deserve it more than someone like La Knight. It just
screams that walking out pays better than showing up. The
best in the world. Phrase used to be the voice

(01:36:21):
of the voiceless back then, but it ended up being
him actually thinking that of himself, which, by the way, sweethearts,
he isn't. Oh wow, okay, are we sweethearts?

Speaker 1 (01:36:31):
I figure he.

Speaker 4 (01:36:32):
Walked out he walked out of WW in twenty fourteen,
or feeling that he deserves more than what he already had,
which by the way, is more than a lot of
wrestlers ever get in their entire careers, and handed it,
handled it worse than a toddler throwing a tantrum would have.
And then, after all the years of bashing the company
and that made him who he is, gets to aw
He then gets fired from that shithole company all right

(01:36:54):
after backstage brawls that he started, well, I don't I
don't agree with that.

Speaker 1 (01:36:59):
He never adapt.

Speaker 4 (01:37:01):
Started through inaction. I would say he never adapts. He
just fuels his narcissism. A champion inspires and punk's ego
fuels the idiot wrestling fans whose obvious hypocritical point of
views on him shine brighter than the star that guided
the Three Wise Men to Jesus. Okay. On top of that,
the disrespecting of the roster who carried the load for
years for the sake of short term noise as a joke.

(01:37:23):
He isn't the future of the business. By the way,
I couldn't make it to smack Down due to a
Halloween party on Friday. This is a from a couple
of weeks ago. If you can't tell. But thought about
going to Saturday's main event in Salt Lake City. But
once I saw the final card, I knew Cody another
overrated guy, and CM, bitch, we're going over. I decided
to not even go. I could have handled Cody winning,

(01:37:44):
but now CM was going to go over to That
was a nail on the coffin for me not attending.
Sorry for the long email, but y'all have to read it.
PS Fox, CM bitch shakes, dude, Dante, I do.

Speaker 1 (01:38:02):
Here's the thing.

Speaker 4 (01:38:04):
Here's the thing with w W, with wrestling in general.
If you are the most over, if you are the
most popular, if you have the best connection with the audience,
if you make the company and the most money, almost
every time, You're gonna be the top guy, You're gonna
get the belt, you're gonna be the face of the company.

(01:38:24):
And I think the WrestleMania commercial with him with Cody,
with Romanus, with Brock, that tells you who ww u's
is the top guys right now. Absolutely, and there's no
question that Punk's in that. I think anybody has a
right if they if they want to disagree with how
Punk left the company, how Punk talked about ww and

(01:38:46):
talked about wrestling in general, how Punk might have carried
himself in the past. If you have a problem with that,
totally understandable. But I don't think we can ignore it.
Like he had his issues in aw again, I don't
think a lot of that was on him. But he
leaves and he comes to w and everybody's like this
all ticking time bomb, waiting for it. What's it gonna

(01:39:06):
happen once he can explode? Hasn't happened, hasn't come close
to happening. Seems like he's happier than ever, seems like
a model employee, and everybody loves the fucking guy. At
this point. Every account is he is a different person
than he once was, And you know, I think, are
we not for second chances or are we not for

(01:39:27):
like giving somebody the opportunity to change and show that
they can be different, especially when it's somebody who is
as popular, who's as talented as see him Punk is.

Speaker 1 (01:39:36):
I've always been a Punk fan.

Speaker 4 (01:39:38):
Yeah, I didn't like the way he talks shit about
wrestling when he left. I even rooted against him when
he was in UFC, But I've still always been a
fan of Cempunk the Wrestler. I was a fan of
Cempunk the Wrestler in ADW and thought he was the
best thing there.

Speaker 1 (01:39:53):
When he was there.

Speaker 4 (01:39:54):
And then when he was left, you know what's pretty
happy because I was like, maybe he can finally happen,
maybe he can go back to the and maybe you
can take care of the care of that unfinished business.
And he has done that and he's been fucking awesome.
Rusty's will be coming up pretty soon. Haven't haven't done
too much thinking on it, but he asked me on
the spot. Who I think probably is the rest of
the year is probably seem Punk because he has consistently

(01:40:17):
some of the best matches, cuts, the best promos, is
the most compelling wrestler probably in the business, and that's
why he's in this position. So you know, you don't
have to like him, but the reality is that he's
the most popular and he's the most over and that's
why he's champion.

Speaker 3 (01:40:34):
What I do I think l A.

Speaker 4 (01:40:35):
Knight should be absolutely I think Ellie Knight should be champion.
I think you should have been champion at some point.
I still hope he is champion at some point. James,
so he's been champion. They've given him that opportunity.

Speaker 1 (01:40:44):
Samy's ain.

Speaker 4 (01:40:45):
I truly believe that they're building him up to that opportunity.
I hope he gets it eventually. Cheg Gable he's hurt,
but he's awesome as well. I'm not saying I'm not
I'm not talking to shout out on any of those guys.
I think they're all great. CM Punk is the guy
that the fans have chosen, and that's why he's in
the spot.

Speaker 1 (01:41:01):
Oh said Michael Samsung easily in the running for the
rest of the year. So I don't see how anyone
could not see that, To be honest, He's consistently had
some of the best promos and his matches always deliver

(01:41:24):
you know the JUSA Matches event. Understanding there's a couple
of botches in there, but like it was still like
a fine match. It's like it was loved it. It's
not like they just bombed it, right. So I also
feel like, you know, he comes back to WW and
very soon after he gets hurt and he works his

(01:41:46):
way back and he's now back and he's been healthy
and he's cutting great promos, he's having great matches, he
is putting people like I think there's something to that
also of just the redemption of being able to come
back from injury. Cody did it as well, and I
respect that a ton. I just disagree with so much

(01:42:07):
of what's in here, Like I don't understand the hatred
of cmpunk, like you said by all accounts of people
who are actually in the company talking about him, of
saying expect him to be a dickhead, and he hasn't been.
He's helping dom. Grayson Waller had an interview a few
weeks ago where he was like, I want to like

(01:42:27):
poke the bear. I'm like, this isn't the Cmpunk that
I thought I was going to get.

Speaker 3 (01:42:31):
The where is he?

Speaker 1 (01:42:32):
What's this guy? And it's because he's whether he's changed
or he's putting on a face, it doesn't really matter.
You're at work, right, so like you should be putting
on your best face when you're at work. I mean,
this guy has gone to Saudi Arabia. He's basically seems
like he's made up with John Sena. They seem to
be buddy buddy the miss. Like there's so many people
that they's had words about or cross paths with that

(01:42:55):
it all seems non existent. I mean, I was at
the MSG show Mike and afterwards when the when the
cameras were off, it was cmpunk, Cody and Jay Us
in the middle of the ring. Cody gets on the mic,
you know, thank thanks, you know the fans for being there,
and very quickly CM punk ass and goes thank the fans,
thank you John Cena for the house. Today is John

(01:43:17):
Cena's last day at MSG. This is his moment. We're
gonna go out with his theme music, not any of ours.
And it was a total celebration for John Cena. Where
fucking fourteen years ago, you think CM punk would have
done that. Probably might have been jealous.

Speaker 4 (01:43:31):
But here's the thing, like every wrestler in really anybody
in sports or entertainer or whatever. To be successful, they
have to have an ego to some degree. And I'm
sure Sampunk still has an ego, but it's not I mean,
that's just not what it was. He's a lot more.
He just comes across a lot more humble than he was.
And you know, I and again, this is what you're seeing,

(01:43:52):
this is what your eyes are telling you, this is
what everybody else is telling you. You gotta take that
at face value, I think.

Speaker 1 (01:43:57):
And he did an interview last week because they had
the whole media score around being in New York and
so he had an interview I was listening to where
where I read it, things are different in the company, right,
how you get paid is different. It's not based on

(01:44:17):
certain parameters of being in the main event, being in
the top So he says, like, I get a salary
wherever you go and work, right, That's what I'll do.
So whether I'm in the main event or I'm in
the opening, it doesn't fucking matter. I still get that
same pay. So now things are different, And as he said,
there's pros and cons to that. But as far as

(01:44:37):
his mentality of need to be in the main event,
and as far as I'm concerned, he should be in
the main events or many of the main events. He
should be a champion, should be the champion. He deserves that.
I mean, he is one of the best ever. And
I'm always been a believer of To solidify people as
being among the best ever, they do need to win,

(01:44:58):
they do. You need to win championships. When everyone was
complaining about John Scene, It's like, well, that's the guy
Vince wants to be as one of the best ever,
and to do that you have to win. You have
to be the Yankees to be but that's ever. You
have to win the championships and in a pre determined show,
you need certain guys. And like you said, Mike, cm
punk has always since I've been following the indie scene

(01:45:20):
in two thousand and two a ring of honor learning
about CM punk, it was this guy has a connection
with the fans that is just unique. It's always been
that way and it will always be that way. To
Jeff Party, Jay Usa is be coming into that where
it's just for some reason, whatever it is, you have
a connection with going. CM punk has always had that.
So whether you like him or not, perfectly fine. To

(01:45:42):
not like him. There's many people I don't like. I'm
I'm not a fan of Cody Rose the wrestler, but
I understand the connection and has a lot of good
things right.

Speaker 3 (01:45:50):
So I just.

Speaker 1 (01:45:53):
Disagree with so many of these things. And I mean
it's to say CM bitch. What has he been bitching about?

Speaker 4 (01:46:00):
Nothing?

Speaker 1 (01:46:01):
Not since he came down, to be right, not since
he came back. And he even said that when he
came back, he had a conversation with Triple H about
coming back, and Triple A says to him, if we're
the same people we were ten years ago, we got
a fucking problem. And see him punk now ten you know,
ten plus years later, married, has his dog, seems to
be going great, getting paid, He's made event in WrestleMania.

(01:46:24):
I mean, he's champion now.

Speaker 4 (01:46:25):
So there's a lot of things going right, and here
all mature.

Speaker 1 (01:46:29):
Like you said, some people deserve second chances. Not everyone does,
in my opinion, some people do.

Speaker 4 (01:46:35):
Depends what you did. And I don't think it's bad
enough to not deserve a second chance.

Speaker 1 (01:46:40):
I agree, fucking wild ass email. The next email comes
from Alexander Russet Contreras, subject his first time here Yo,
we've heard y'all talk about when you start to like wrestling.
What I wanted to know is when did you start
to like sports in general? Did that league all becoming

(01:47:00):
sports journalists. I didn't like sports as a kid, only wrestling.
I didn't start liking football or baseball, and so I
was in high school, had very little family that actually
liked sports. The ones that did like sports I went
to see very often. Thanks for my email, alex Andre Russe,
Contraras p s rust Russ So Mike. Growing up, my

(01:47:24):
I would say my real like, my first sport I
was playing was baseball, but my first real love of
sports was basketball. We grew up in the Michael Jordan era.
We grew up in such a great time. The rivalry
between like the Knicks and the Bulls and the Pacers,
Reggie Miller, Michael Jordan, John Stars, Patrick Ewing's Shack, Gary Payton,

(01:47:47):
like there was so many people. NBA Jam was huge
for us growing up. NBA hangtime on n saxty four
that there were so many basketball games and then you
know you play Blitz and the NHL has so video
were very important to us as well. But playing sports
was since I was growing up baseball. We would play

(01:48:07):
fucking street hockey and we did everything. You would play basketball, football, frisbee,
got like everything. We would just be playing outside, right,
So sports was always kind of like ingrained. Like I've
always said, I had watched wrestling, never really gotten to
wrestling my friends were I was million. Then wrestling in
two thousand comes out, so now I'm into wrestling also.

(01:48:27):
And what really got me into being more of like
following sports as opposed it has been like a casual
like Okay, I'm gonna watch the NBA and they'll watch
like baseball every now and then at football every now
and then, to being like a die hard sports fan
was fantasy football especially, and then fantasy sports. I got

(01:48:48):
into Fantasy football in two thousand and three. So this
is also when they totally changed up Madden with two
and oh four with the franchise MO Michael Vick was
on the cover. This was huge. My entire friend group
we were playing Madden like every day we go after
school playing Madden Fantasy Football though none of them, however,

(01:49:11):
even was but yeah, come on, your friend, the awesome,
thank you. How's your haircut going?

Speaker 3 (01:49:19):
It look great?

Speaker 1 (01:49:21):
Really don't so? Yeah, my fantasy football especially got me
really great that now I'm watching like PTI and everything.
I was like, Okay, this is what I want to
do with my life and be a sports journalist. Yeah,
I'm with you. I uh so.

Speaker 4 (01:49:36):
My my uncle and my dad were sports fans from
time the kids to still are today huge sports fans.
So like I was always going to be a sports
fan because games and they were always on when I
was a kid. Like the first really the first like
sporting and I can really remember watching pretty vividly was
like ninety five Super Bowl, which would have been Steelers

(01:49:57):
and Cowboys, and I was born eighty nine, so that's
pretty much like you know. And then I remember like
the following year super Bowl like Packers Patriots, and then
the one I really got into was Broncos and Packers
because my grandfather was a John Alway fan, So then
I became a John Alway fan and I was rooting
for the Broncos. My dad liked five and he was

(01:50:19):
rooting for the Packers, so we were kind of like
going against each other there. And Elway finally gets a
Super Bowl and it was an awesome moment. But that's
kind of it's so easy to remember, like from the
Super Bowls, like how invested I was into it, So
probably you know when I was seven eight years old
was when I really started getting into sports. And I'm
one hundred percent with you on like fantasy, because I

(01:50:42):
started playing in two thousand. That was my first ever
fantasy football league and first ever draft pick was Peyton Manning,
a pretty good one in retrospect, and yeah, I've been obsessed.
I've never not played Fantasy to football a year in
my life since then. I play every other fantasy sport
as well. And yes, video games is a big part

(01:51:02):
of it. Two, Like when I was I can get
pretty close, but when I was a kid, I couldn't
name every fucking player in the league basically because we're
playing mat Yeah, and it's franchise mode. So all that
stuff definitely contributed to me being a sports fan, and
I've just been obsessed with it vast majority of my life.
Wrestling same thing, but like even I stopped watching wrestling

(01:51:23):
probably like some point in two thousand and two, two
thousand and three, and didn't watch again until like two
thousand and nine, twenty ten. During that time, sports totally
took over every Like I was still obsessed with sports,
and I ever since I was wrestling with my first
love above like sports because I started watching it I
was like five years old. Sports came a little bit
after that, but I've never stopped watching sports since I started,

(01:51:44):
and I'll always be a sports fan until the end.
And yes, that's why I like, probably the first thing
I ever wanted to be when when I was a kid,
was like a wrestler. But then, like you get older,
you become more realistic and.

Speaker 3 (01:51:53):
You see your body in the mirror and you're like,
that ain't not man?

Speaker 4 (01:51:56):
And I wanted to do something involved with sports, and
what's for journalism? I'm a sportswriter.

Speaker 3 (01:52:03):
That's really cool.

Speaker 4 (01:52:04):
Yeah, that is really cool. You want to read your email?

Speaker 3 (01:52:07):
What's what's the question? What's the whole real quick? What's
the question? I want to I want to answer the
question you just answered. What was the question?

Speaker 4 (01:52:12):
When did you become a sports fan? And did that
kind of lead to you want to be a sports journalist?

Speaker 2 (01:52:19):
Uh?

Speaker 3 (01:52:20):
Sports fan? You know, I think I've echoed a lot
of what you probably probably just said. Never had a
chance to be anything but a sports fan. It's always
on every fucking gathering is based around some sort of
televised sporting event in some form of fashion. Right, So
you know it's just it's just you just were You're
just raised on it. It's all the time. My dad like,
love the fucking Flyers. I never had a chance anything

(01:52:42):
like anything else, you know what I mean? And if
you I'll tell you what. One time I was like, man,
that Jerry Rice guy really good, really really good. He's
like he's a fucking forty nine er. We don't like
the other team, right, So I was like, Okay, I
can't like other That's why I learned you can't like
other teams. And one time I got hand me down
in this same hand me down bag Foo Boo pants

(01:53:04):
and at twenty two Emmett Smith Dallas Cowboys, Jersey. My
father took that shit. He said, if I ever see
you fucking wear this again, I'll beat your ass. So
he just he let me know then. But no, I
wanted to be I wanted to be a mechanic and
fixed cars. So I went to votech for fixing cars,
and I fixed cars until I realized I hated it.
I hate people and I hate cars, and I hate

(01:53:25):
fucking working on them and ship like that. It was
pretty rough to realize that your dream sucked. So I
was like, I'm gonna go back to community college, smoked
weed out front and was like, I'm going for sports journalism. Blam.
Then I'm covering the flyers, blam, I'm fucking it. Bleach
your report, and now we're working travel. So life kind
of just takes you where it wants to take it.

Speaker 4 (01:53:45):
You know what you were talking about.

Speaker 3 (01:53:48):
For now, I don't even really write anymore. Now I'm
an editor to brother. I have taken so many twists
and turns this fucking road. You can't predict the roads run.
But I'd never traded for a million bucks.

Speaker 4 (01:54:00):
Absolutely treat. I would absolutely treat my road for a
million bucks.

Speaker 3 (01:54:03):
We talked about three hundred thousand dollars. I leave right now. Wow,
up the.

Speaker 4 (01:54:07):
Fucking road and give me my million dollars.

Speaker 3 (01:54:11):
I'm dancing away like I'm the Wizard of Oz Girl.
What's her name? Dorothy Good? Read my email? I can't.

Speaker 4 (01:54:21):
Oh, yeah, it's from Kenny Andre the Johnson. Subject's age problem. Hey, boys,
hard to believe it's been since like February when I
sent my last email.

Speaker 3 (01:54:32):
But I'm yeah, Ericshoff is awesome not anymore, though yes
he is.

Speaker 4 (01:54:38):
This email might be a bit long, but I think
it's worth it for the discussion that it brings does
if you have an age problem in their main events scene.
This only pertains to the men's division on the main rosters.
There are plenty of twenty somethings on the women's side,
and XT is in good shape too, talking like Georgia
Cruz twenty something women.

Speaker 3 (01:54:56):
I saw it though.

Speaker 4 (01:54:59):
I saw a post onl that showed the average age
for the top ten main event WWF names in two thousand,
which was thirty two point three years old. Compare that
to today's top ten names and the average is forty
one point five.

Speaker 3 (01:55:10):
Wow.

Speaker 4 (01:55:11):
I also heard a claim that no world Champion ww
has been born after nineteen ninety. I did my own
research when I heard that, and I can confirm that
no main roster world champion has actually been born after
nineteen eighty seven.

Speaker 3 (01:55:22):
Great year, great year for births, great year for births.

Speaker 4 (01:55:28):
For context, As much as I don't want to go there,
aw has had three world champions born after eighty seven,
Swerve Strickland, Adam Page and MJF. With the latter two
being born in the nineties. What do you guys think
about all of this. I know WW hasn't had issues
with pushing younger talent before, but it feels like it's
been a long time. Looking forward to the discussion or banter.

Speaker 3 (01:55:46):
If Donnie is there ring us, Yeah, I don't know
how to say this light, but I'll assume it's negative.
So each shit, I'll go first, real quick because it's
just my gut instinct. I did not read this ahead
of time, right, I believe that WW has a clearer
hierarchy in terms of paying dues, in terms of earning

(01:56:06):
respect and shit like that. I'll say right now, if
but twenty seven year old superstar becomes an overnight phenomena,
they're gonna push him. They're gonna do the Domasterio thing right.
They're gonna give him a secondary title. They're gonna let
him earn his stripes make the money. But from that
secondary tier, I think putting the title on Cody Rhodes
is pretty much the closest they're gonna get to really

(01:56:26):
capitalizing on like something new and fresh and different. For
the most part, they're gonna go to the tride and
the true and the stuff that they know works, especially
when it comes to the mainstream marketing. I think AW
doesn't have to worry about that as much. They're not
a global entity the way that WW is, so they
need WW needs. When you have a world champion, he

(01:56:48):
is the face of everything. And Seth Rollins is like
newish and he's been a face of the company a
bunch like Roman's not young, but he's also not old.
Like I understand forty two, but.

Speaker 1 (01:57:01):
The forty is now what thirty was back in the day.

Speaker 3 (01:57:04):
I mean, honestly, it's like twenty. Like I see people.

Speaker 4 (01:57:08):
So much more, they have so much less wear.

Speaker 3 (01:57:11):
And Dick Murdoch Look at thirty Dick Murdock.

Speaker 4 (01:57:14):
Look he was seventy and he was thirty five.

Speaker 3 (01:57:17):
Yeah, everybody in the seventies looked old as fuck and
they were like twenty four years old and shit like that.

Speaker 4 (01:57:23):
You know why, I don't think it's a issue because
these guys, with the way they take care of their
bodies and what their schedules are, they can continue to
work at a high level up to fifty and maybe
even a little bit beyond.

Speaker 3 (01:57:33):
He's not saying that, he's asking why I thought I know.

Speaker 4 (01:57:36):
And and here's the way I look at I think
it's an overstated issue. And part of it is because
of what I just said, because forty is not that
old in wrestling years anymore. And yes, in life, you've
kind of as you kind of alluded to dub they're
gonna put the titles on the top guys who are
the established, top guys who they know they're gonna make
money with, who they know are popular.

Speaker 1 (01:57:57):
BIGI.

Speaker 4 (01:57:58):
We were just talking about it a couple of months
ago about seem Punk. The reason he has it is
because he's over connection with the fans. He makes money.
That's why he's in that spot. Roman Reigns, Cody Rose,
whoever you want to say. So they're gonna go to that.
But you know, does anybody think that bron Breaker isn't
gonna be world champion in the near future? I mean,
I I think that. I think Guther's like forty. But

(01:58:22):
that's the point I was gonna get to too. Yeah,
goother what Okay, Guther wins the late thirties, but Goother's
like a new wre guy to w to b. When
Damian Priest won the title, he was like Daniel forty.
But he's a newer guy to to b. So just
because they're not thirty or less doesn't mean that you're
not pushing newer talent and putting them in spots that

(01:58:45):
they haven't been in before.

Speaker 1 (01:58:46):
I think that the just like I think it's simple minded.

Speaker 4 (01:58:49):
To just be like, oh, just because the person's not
thirty or less, like they're not pushing.

Speaker 3 (01:58:55):
About like homegrown guys getting their Randy Orton's style.

Speaker 4 (01:58:58):
Well, bron Breaker is gonna be that guy. And you
know we talked about before like sometimes yeah, w W
could pull the trigger a little earlier, like you could
have put the title on bron Breaker right after Seth
was put out, but you know, maybe.

Speaker 3 (01:59:10):
He's gotta be not thirty yet.

Speaker 4 (01:59:15):
I don't think.

Speaker 3 (01:59:18):
Like they have a lot of guys.

Speaker 4 (01:59:21):
Is kind of old, like thirty five, he's good, brokers,
gonna be in that spot very soon.

Speaker 1 (01:59:29):
Is gonna be in that spot very soon. So I
think that, you know, a w.

Speaker 4 (01:59:35):
AW they put the title on Swerve and Hangman MJF
Hangman twice they said this ain't working, so we're gonna
take it off and we're gonna put it on a
fifty year old guy. Their first ever champion was a
fifty year old guy. Moxley's older, you know, Somemojo's older.
Like they also put it on old guys too. So
you know, just because w W hasn't had.

Speaker 3 (01:59:54):
That the old guys are established stars, is that you.

Speaker 1 (01:59:58):
Guys have built up their credibility, built up equity with
the fans. And so if you're w Devan, you've invested
in a Seth Rollins, in Roman Reigns, in someone like
Cody Road since he came back, and it's like you
want to capitalize on that investment of this connection that
they have with the audience. Yeah, Jay Usa is older,
but he's also newer to the scene, but he's been
there for over a decade connected with the audience.

Speaker 3 (02:00:23):
But the context is very important.

Speaker 1 (02:00:26):
Brock Lesner is a mainstream names, Cody Roads is becoming
that Seth Rolands is on NFL network, Cody Roads all
over ESPN. So these are the guys and you know,
like you said, like there's a trust factor involved with that.
I think you all said as well, Donnie of like
these are guys that you can rely on that you
know are going to go like a mis right. The
has been around forever.

Speaker 3 (02:00:45):
We lost it. Now we lost You Know.

Speaker 1 (02:00:48):
What I'm saying is of guys that you can go
and send out to a media tour and be like, Okay,
they're not going to fucking make it.

Speaker 3 (02:00:55):
Yeah he could talk the ring though he's made as fuck. Sure,
My point is, thank you. He's confirmed.

Speaker 1 (02:01:00):
For guys that you are going to put towards the top,
you want to make sure you can depend on them.

Speaker 3 (02:01:04):
Sure. Right, they're not gonna barras you on the road.
They're not gonna get.

Speaker 1 (02:01:09):
A w when they're first starting. Like you said, like
Chris Jericho is the guy. Well he's been right. He's
a name and it doesn't matter how.

Speaker 3 (02:01:15):
Old you are.

Speaker 4 (02:01:16):
You are a name.

Speaker 1 (02:01:16):
People are going to want to see you and interact
with you. And we know that we can depend on you.
And so I think that's more importantly of what this
is all about. And listen, there there were times where
you're gonna have a show main evented by like Sammy's
at and no one's gonna blink an eye because he's
over with the oints. Just because he's not the world
champion doesn't mean these people aren't over and connecting with
the fans. There's only so many spots. That's the bottom line, right,

(02:01:41):
So there's only so many main event positions, there's only
so many championships, and you're gonna go to your tried
and true and then every now and then you will
have someone sprinkling. Listen, jay Us. So if you saw
us five years ago, jay Us will be main event.
Jay Us is a world champion, you probably will laugh
in your face. So they definitely do it.

Speaker 3 (02:02:01):
Okay, all right, did we answer the question properly? Are
we good? Now? I just don't.

Speaker 1 (02:02:07):
I don't understand the whole because it's been a narrative
and even when someone it's a narrative and where the
narrative comes from.

Speaker 3 (02:02:14):
Here we go, Well, I was just okay because that's
like one thing it's always been the.

Speaker 4 (02:02:22):
Younger got the title, so they have to use it
as a slate against them to be right.

Speaker 1 (02:02:25):
But I was just about to say that Sam and
Joe just won the championship from Hangman, and to me,
I don't have an issue.

Speaker 3 (02:02:33):
With that, like because the title to admitted it.

Speaker 1 (02:02:40):
I mean, I agree with that, but my point is
is that they didn't have to go to Joe. They
could have win someone else, but Joe being champion to
me is like I don't blink and eye that that's
Samo with Joe. That's one of the best in the world.

Speaker 3 (02:02:52):
Why would I take an twisted metal money coming through
baby some mood you you like.

Speaker 1 (02:02:58):
If you're putting some of the best in the world
as your world champion, why would I complain? That doesn't
make any sense. And just because it's not someone who's
twenty four years old, that doesn't I don't. I don't
agree with it.

Speaker 3 (02:03:09):
Some people like him, young pal. I don't know what
to tell you. Yeah, George Cruis is somewhere perkdy or
like yep, yep, yep, you know it boy, but he
spells boy with an eye. I know it. Wow? Is
that it? We've done.

Speaker 1 (02:03:25):
Thanksgiving?

Speaker 3 (02:03:26):
Oh yeah, Happy Thanksgiving? Don't drink drive So it's not.

Speaker 4 (02:03:30):
A copyright Is that true? It's just people talking.

Speaker 3 (02:03:33):
Oh I'm just lazy though. Just do it is the
beginning copyrighted. We'll find out. We don't make any money
off YouTube anyway. Suck it.

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