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August 28, 2017 45 mins
We continue our look at the real relationship between the Fourth Estate and the People in PART 2. We interview a public figure (Governor Kate Brown), we go behind the scenes at the New York Times The Daily (Lisa Tobin, Podcast Creator), talk to an Advance Press Lead for the HRC campaign (Natalie Sept, who basically INVENTED SHEETCAKING), and speak with Floyd Abrams, one of the great legal minds of our time, about the 1st Amendment.

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